The 2025 Election Prediction Show

Speaker 1 Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the Find Out podcast and welcome to the 2025 election preview.
We finally made it, guys. We have an election coming today.

Speaker 1 We are taping on Monday, but I'm going to pretend like we're taping taping on tuesday i swear to god i just got ptsd from you saying that i mean just wait until we announce when we're at 2026 election night which will be

Speaker 1 uh before we dive into all the races um we want to there's a bit of breaking news and we want to announce an exciting partnership that we're doing but the trump administration just came out and said that they are only going to partially fund SNAP benefits in November, even though they have an emergency fund that they actually tapped in 2019 to make sure that those benefits continue on for another two to three weeks

Speaker 1 while the shutdown continues.

Speaker 1 So they are withholding food benefits from people to try to get Democrats back to the table, which is as cruel as it sounds.

Speaker 1 And we'll talk about this in a second, but it leads into our next piece, which is, you know, with the government shutdown, federal employees have not been given paychecks, I think, for at least two or three pay cycles now.

Speaker 1 And a lot of federal employees do not make a ton of money. And so they are having a lot of trouble right now paying bills and importantly, feeding their families.

Speaker 1 You know, we've talked a lot about SNAP recipients potentially losing their funding, which is, which is devastating. But federal employees are also having this same situation.

Speaker 1 So we're actually working with a group called the Labor Force, and we are trying to raise money to purchase grocery store gift cards for folks so that they can buy food, put food on their table while Donald Trump and the Republicans hold the

Speaker 1 government hostage, also they could take away health care for millions of Americans.

Speaker 1 So right now, the demand is actually quite huge.

Speaker 1 According to estimates,

Speaker 1 730,000 federal employees are currently working without pay, and another 670,000 federal workers are furloughed without pay. So that is what?

Speaker 1 About 1.3 million Americans who are not getting the money that they deserve for working.

Speaker 1 So we are going to try to raise some money for them and make sure that that they get

Speaker 1 the food that they need to survive. I mean, this seems like a very, very simple and the bare minimum that the government should be doing.

Speaker 1 So if you go to thelaborforce.org slash find out, that is the labor, the laborforce.org slash find out, you can make a donation there and we'll make sure that we can distribute as many grocery store gift cards to federal employees so they can make sure they feed their families.

Speaker 1 So that, if you could do that for us, everybody, we we would appreciate it. Um, but also, we got to talk about on the snap benefits, just how devastating this is for local economies as well.

Speaker 1 Like, the fact is that none of this money is being given to snap recipients or furloughed federal workers, which means grocery stores are not getting the money that they usually get, which means they're probably going to have to lay off people who then will need to rely on federal assistance.

Speaker 1 So, it is, it is just silly, Tim. Silly, cruel, inhumane.

Speaker 1 I saw a MAGA TikTok that was telling me that because there's going to be 40 million people who aren't using food stamps, groceries are going to be cheaper because there will be less people buying them.

Speaker 1 Did somebody actually check me, Libs?

Speaker 2 That's like a big MAGA talking point right now.

Speaker 1 Oh my God, these people are so fucking silly. You know, we should have it.
Everyone should have to take an Econ 101 class in high school. I know.
We talked about that months ago, right?

Speaker 1 What was the class? And I think

Speaker 1 financial literacy was one of them. But

Speaker 1 I think that's a basic logic class. Just like if this, then that is a concept that I think a lot of MAGA just does not understand.

Speaker 1 Like, if you don't have the federal workforce getting paid, then children go hungry.

Speaker 1 If you cut food insecurity benefits, SNAP benefits, then you have government employees, including military families, with hungry children. Like there are

Speaker 1 families right now where one spouse is deployed overseas, the other one is at home. 27% of military spouses work for the federal government.

Speaker 1 And if that family is used to having two incomes and right now they only have one, imagine being deployed, whether it's in a combat zone or not. Like it could be in Korea.

Speaker 1 It could be a relatively cushy or Germany, like a relatively cushy deployment. But to know that your family back in the United States might be starving.
Yeah, but Chris, Trump loves the troops.

Speaker 1 He loves the troops. He can't be doing this.
That can't be right. I had a piece of shit in my comment section tell me that the rate of starving children, like starving to death, is 0% in the U.S.
So

Speaker 1 that's why it's okay.

Speaker 2 So nobody starves?

Speaker 1 Well, he claimed that that was why this is all okay is because

Speaker 1 they're not starving to death. They're just starving to hunger.
And so that's why it's okay. Got it.
And I almost lost my fucking shit. Well, this is where the logic thing goes out the window, right?

Speaker 1 Like, because we didn't, the snap benefits benefits haven't been cut yet. So, we haven't been starving yet.
People.

Speaker 1 Though, actually, there is a, there is a, that is actually not true. In the big bullshit bill, I believe there was about $136, $38 billion in cuts to SNAP benefits.

Speaker 1 So, there are some cuts, but they have. So, even if when the federal government opens,

Speaker 1 there are cuts.

Speaker 1 And, you know, this lie that able-bodied Americans are just sitting at home watching Maury Povich and Price is Right and munching on Oreos and just living off the government does

Speaker 1 not exist in any meaningful manner. I think the fraud and waste in SNAP benefits is something like 1%.
1%.

Speaker 1 Right? 1%.

Speaker 1 And as many people have pointed out, SNAP benefits or

Speaker 1 essentially any benefits to poor and working class Americans stimulates the economy because they need that money and they spend it.

Speaker 1 And on the opposite end of the spectrum, when you have billionaires getting tax cuts in the millions and billions of dollars, they just put it in their pocket because they can't spend any more money.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 you know, so

Speaker 2 I feel like the central problem here is most people don't know what the government does for them. So they just, they just wake up and go, whoops, this is a huge mistake.

Speaker 2 And that's like, you know, if they just had a basic understanding of what they're getting from the government, who's getting from the government and why and how it's all structured, they'd probably have a very different opinion.

Speaker 1 But now it's like, you just have to live in the hell that you've created by voting this guy in that's just how it is well and i think that there's the situations where people see like quote unquote see their neighbors mooching and i think there's always a lot of assumptions in that stuff you may not know that that person has uh a medical disability or a mental disability or or something else also like i i just i i just can't give a about this like what they spend their money on i just i can't i can't i can't i did a video where i said i said you do you get to care about this what SNAP benefit or snap recipients spend their money on when you care what billionaires do with their Trump tax cut.

Speaker 1 And the answers that I've gotten, I mean, a lot of people liked it, but a lot of people were like, yeah, but that was their money they're getting back.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, what do you think SNAP benefits are? Like

Speaker 1 it's the same thing. What is it? 80% of Snap benefit, able-bodied SNAP recipients work? Yep.
Like these people are the, it's like these MAGA guys are so close to the solution, but so far away.

Speaker 1 It's like, yeah, we don't pay people enough in this country to work. That's why there are 42 million Americans on SNAP SNAP benefits, or they are disabled and can't work.

Speaker 1 Do you want to cut their benefits as well? I'm confused. So I think you're right, Zach.

Speaker 1 It's just people don't know what the government does and they make assumptions because Republicans have been lying to them for a long time.

Speaker 2 Yep. They think it's just a bunch of free shit.
And it's like, where do you think the government makes money from?

Speaker 1 It's from people working. From you.
It's from you.

Speaker 2 We're not a business. I mean, technically, I guess we're structured somewhat like a business, but we're not actually selling anything.
It's fucking taxes, morons.

Speaker 1 Well, that's why they elected Trump. They wanted to run the government like a business.
And look at that. You elected the guy who bankrupted casinos.
Well done.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And that's the thing that, because I'm one of those people where, like, I do think the government should be run like a business in some ways, but not by this particular businessman.

Speaker 1 Like, he's got such a business. He's destroying the whole fucking business.

Speaker 1 You need a good CEO if you're going to run the country like if you're going to run anything like a business, you need a good CEO.

Speaker 1 We have a message that said that we're in a recession warning based on the housing market. That was oh, yeah.
The treasury secretary said that some sectors appear to be in a recession.

Speaker 1 And I saw a reporter, finance reporter, it might have been Carlos Quintana or somebody, it said

Speaker 1 it must be really, the meetings must be really bad and the underlying data must be really bad if they are even willing to admit that portions of the of the economy are in a recession.

Speaker 1 You know, the lights, the red lights are screaming. And, you know,

Speaker 1 things are going to get bad pretty soon on the financial front. So it's, it's, it's tough.
But anyways, let's do what we were supposed to do and let's talk about tonight's elections.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk about a few of them, the four real big ones that I think are happening. And we're going to start because I choose and I lived here, live here.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk about the New York City mayoral race first.

Speaker 1 Uh, so the question is: Does anybody actually think on this group that Mendani will lose?

Speaker 2 Scalino is going to win.

Speaker 1 I have money on Mamadani winning, so no. Did you guys see the SNL cold open?

Speaker 1 Yes, it was so good. It was really good.
It was really good. For anybody who hasn't watched it yet, I'm not going to ruin it.
Like, you need to go watch it. But finish this first.

Speaker 2 Yes. Finish this first, then go watch this first.

Speaker 2 Or come back to us when you're done.

Speaker 1 I actually, there's been a lot. I look, Sliwa is just, you know, he's in the

Speaker 1 city and he hates Cuomo, so that's why he's staying in the race, which I respect.

Speaker 1 He is, but like, there's so many like funny memes and like all these people, these New York City people doing takes where they ask the two, they ask Mimdani and Cuomo a question and they ask Sliwa the same one.

Speaker 1 And he was like, I was stabbed in a subway con

Speaker 1 1981. No one came to get me.
You know, he's got this whole shit. And you're like, what? So it's at least made a little interesting.
He's entertaining. Here's another question for you guys.

Speaker 1 Does anyone think that Memdani will win by less than 10 points? No.

Speaker 2 Less than 20, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I think less than 20, I think it is.

Speaker 2 Which is interesting because I look at the betting market shit and one of them, like the over-under was 24. I'm like, there's no way.

Speaker 1 Oh, under, under, under, under. Yeah, exactly.
Way under. I think 15.
You guys don't think that Donald Trump's endorsement of Andrew Cuomo isn't going to let

Speaker 1 that. That's good.
That's a game changer, you guys. Sexual Assaulters United.
I'm not sure what they're calling their super PAC. Yeah, is that a support group that we don't know about? SAU.

Speaker 1 Well, I think

Speaker 1 I'm putting the over-under at 15. That's what I think.
I just, you know, you see the city, and, you know, I hate doing anecdotal

Speaker 1 reporting on this stuff. But I mean, Mimdani has an army.

Speaker 1 He literally led a march across, I think, the Brooklyn Bridge today, and it was there were like hundreds of people, and there's not even any voting today.

Speaker 1 It was just a rally, and it's a Monday morning. I mean, I am getting phone called and texted, and everything.
Luckily, I already voted, so I could tell them to go to somebody else.

Speaker 1 Which, by the way, that's the trick, guys. If you don't want the text, tell them you voted and they'll leave you alone because they mark you as done.
Uh,

Speaker 1 but Cuomo has no operations. Sleewa's just running around with the cats and the beret and doing whatever.
And

Speaker 1 you know, I like cats. No, no, I love cats, but I, you know, he has 19 in an apartment, which I would argue.
It's something like that.

Speaker 1 Is that why he's running for mayor so that he can change the like change the code to allow it? My well, my guess is Gracie Mansion has a lot more space than the apartment he lives in.

Speaker 1 So maybe that's it. He just needs an expanded footprint for all of the cats.
He keeps getting letters from his landlord saying, dude, it's three. Three is the cap.
You can't.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but here's the deal.

Speaker 1 Isn't he? He's like the head of the the Guardian Angels, right? So like

Speaker 1 no one's going to mess with him. So he's got 19 cats in his apartment.
Also, no one ever checks that shit here. But yeah, so I think it's going to be a big win.
It's so funny.

Speaker 1 Like the Times even wrote this obnoxious article the other day about like some Memdani supporters are getting worried about his experience. And my answer to that is.

Speaker 1 Eric Adams was very experienced. He's a state senator.
He was a Brooklyn borough president. He was an NYPD officer.
How did all that experience go in the city? Right. I mean, it's not great.

Speaker 2 I have my, like, here's, I mean, I've said it in all my videos about Bamdani. Like, I want him to win.
I'm not confident he'll do well.

Speaker 2 Not because necessarily the experience, just because he doesn't know, I don't think he understands systematically what he's up against to enact some of the changes he wants to do.

Speaker 2 Like, I agree with everything he wants to try. The odds he'll get to do them, very fucking low.

Speaker 2 And that's, I think, the thing that a lot of people are probably like, the people on the fence are probably looking at it and go, I mean, is he going to do any of this? I don't know.

Speaker 2 Cause it's like a lot of it's just not in his control. Like the MTA, he doesn't control the MTA.
The state does.

Speaker 2 Like, it's all this different shit where it's like, you know, it's nice ideas, but can you actually do it?

Speaker 1 We'll see.

Speaker 1 So, one thing in particular I think that will help him is that there are ballot initiatives to make building housing easier.

Speaker 1 And I think that most of those are likely to win. And a lot of people were against them because they were like, well, Eric Adams is going to put all his people in there.
So I'm not voting for that.

Speaker 1 I'm like, well, he's not going to be mayor anymore. It will actually be Memdani.
So there are some levers, but I agree. Like, the MTA stuff is owned by the state.
So he has to work with Kathy Hochul.

Speaker 1 But I think like what he needs to do is really hire some very smart, progressive bureaucrats who actually know how to run the levers of the city.

Speaker 1 I mean, we've talked about Brad Lander and some other folks, because Adams just put cronies in there and then they all got indicted for random shit.

Speaker 1 So we have had nobody essentially for the last two years running anything. That's not true.
Some of them quit.

Speaker 1 Two.

Speaker 1 Two of them actually got married. so that they to try to get away from ratting on each other.
Really? Nice. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that's actually legal, like, but they did do it. All of a sudden, they had been dating for years.

Speaker 1 And then magically, like, they eloped on a weekend before they both got indicted or something like that. Or one of them got indicted.

Speaker 1 I can't keep track of all the indictments because they're all indicted. So, anyways,

Speaker 1 it will be a new day in New York City, I think. So, you know, folks, let us know what you think.

Speaker 1 How much you think when Mem Donnie will win by, or if you think that Cuomo will come back and surprise us all, which definitely won't be.

Speaker 1 I saw the New York Post, I think, had an article today, and it was like, man, the system is really allergic to this treatment because

Speaker 1 they said that a million New Yorkers were ready to flee if mom died wins. And it was like a million,

Speaker 1 a million people. Like you just

Speaker 1 make up that number on the spot. So like one eighth of the city.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah.
Well, actually, I've saw some people saying good leave. That means there'll be more housing and the prices will go down.
So I've had it.

Speaker 1 This is always a threat and never happens because it's, again, it's a millionaire's tax.

Speaker 1 You have to make a million dollars a year, and then the tax is all of the money above a million dollars that you make.

Speaker 1 And it's something like the average person who would qualify for it pays for like $2,000 or something like that. That's right.
Like to someone who makes a million dollars.

Speaker 1 Yeah, our friend Nathan June has done some really good videos because he is a one percenter self-described, right?

Speaker 1 And he's been like sharing how much he makes, how much he's already paying in taxes, and how little this so-called millionaire's tax would impact him. It isn't consequential in any way.

Speaker 1 No, the whole like I'm going to leave thing, like, if that, if that was a thing, I would be in Canada because I was going to leave after Bush won in 2000 and in 2004, and I never moved to Canada.

Speaker 1 So I admit it.

Speaker 1 No, the whole thing, though, it actually reminds me, I heard like several years ago,

Speaker 1 I was talking to, I guess, sort of like a mentor, I guess,

Speaker 1 and he said that when a system is exposed to any kind of radical change,

Speaker 1 the system defends itself like the human body does with antibodies. And he said, even how like your antibodies can attack your own joints.
It can attack like autoimmune diseases.

Speaker 1 Even healthy change is fought. And

Speaker 1 when you look at that, when you look at it through that lens and you look at who is fighting back and you see, okay, so

Speaker 1 the very wealthy people who have grifted off of the economy for decades and all of the people who are protecting the very wealthy people and all the people who own the media outlets that are owned by these ultra-wealthy people, it's all just them.

Speaker 1 Like that's that is the system.

Speaker 1 They are the people who benefit from the system and they are using every single thing at their disposal to attack this intrusive idea of change that Mom Dani represents. And because because I get it.

Speaker 1 Like if you say, well, all the wealthy people are going to leave and they're job creators.

Speaker 1 Like that is built on this myth that has been perpetuated since the 80s of trickle-down supply side regonomic bullshit.

Speaker 1 And all of those people who were all children of that philosophy, including people like Alan Greenspan, I mean, they are the people who run everything.

Speaker 1 in in the in the financial systems in the United States right now and they have since really since the 90s um and those are the people who are who are going to personally lose some money they'll still be fine just like they were before the 80s they'll still be very wealthy they'll just be a little bit less wealthy and that change is uh is still too much for them to to suffer and it's embarrassing

Speaker 1 sure is um it really you know and i think but i think also if

Speaker 1 but i think

Speaker 1 i know well we'll leave it at this it's like they are scared that he'll be successful yeah right because if he is successful and he shows that there is a a different way to do this, then you know, other states are going to catch fire the whole thing.

Speaker 1 And so, you know, it'll be really interesting to see.

Speaker 1 I really hope that, like I said, he hires some smart bureaucrats because government, whether you're at the federal, state, or city level, is very, very difficult if you do not understand it.

Speaker 1 And he frankly doesn't have years to figure it out. So he's a smart guy.
You know, he's heard it loud and clear. So we'll, it'll be really interesting to see what happens.

Speaker 1 But yeah, over under on 15 points, I think.

Speaker 1 Let me know, people, what you think let's just keep going well we'll go south on this one and then we'll go further south so new jersey is probably the toughest race of the evening so this will be mikey sheryl against a jack what is it citarelli or something like that this mega crazy man um that is within at least like the polling that i've seen has uh cheryl up by three-ish points

Speaker 1 which is

Speaker 1 right around the margin of error so that could be tied or she could be up by a little bit more.

Speaker 1 But New Jersey is always strange, and it is more conservative than people think, especially in these off-year elections. So

Speaker 1 with her up three,

Speaker 1 what do we think is going to happen in this race, guys?

Speaker 2 I think she'll win. I don't think there's a lot of chance that she loses.
But like I was making a video on it this morning about.

Speaker 2 I want to see what the margin is more than I want to see if she wins or not. Because like, you're right.
I mean, I'm from New Jersey, so I know, you you know, how New Jersey behaves a lot of the way.

Speaker 2 And it's like,

Speaker 2 if she doesn't do better than Harris did, and Harris did poorly in New Jersey, she won by 6%, which Biden won by 16. So she really sucked

Speaker 2 in 24. I think the over-under is six because it really is sort of like a bellwether for how people feel about Trump.

Speaker 2 If Trump didn't lose ground in New Jersey over the last, whatever, nine months, what the fuck is going on? You know, it's when he's going to lose it. Right.
Right. Well, that's the thing.

Speaker 2 It's like, if I look at at it as like, all right, if she wins by 10%,

Speaker 1 okay, great.

Speaker 2 We've made up some ground in an area where Trump was trending the right direction. But if she barely fucking wins, then she's doing worse than Kamala Harris did.
And that is a very bad sign.

Speaker 2 So, like, I look at it more as a margin question than I look at it as like a win-loss question.

Speaker 1 Well, I think it'd be close because, I mean, Jersey, I'm from Long Island, you know,

Speaker 1 across the way. And I've watched it get increasingly magified.
And MAGA voters in off-year elections, or I should say, Republicans in off-year elections are very motivated to vote.

Speaker 1 I don't know if people on the ground are as psyched to vote for Mikey Sherrill,

Speaker 1 you know, as they even were for Harris. Like, I don't know if Democrats are that psyched.
So I think it could be a squeaker, but

Speaker 1 we'll see. I think

Speaker 1 what I'm looking for, I mean, people should remember like governors matter, mayors matter. Most of these things, they'll be, you know, they'll be read into and spun one way or the other.

Speaker 1 It's not going to say a lot about the national mood. I mean, these are decided, these are special elections essentially decided at local levels.

Speaker 1 But so one thing I'm looking for in the governor's race in New Jersey in particular is the uh the behavior of independent voters and Latino voters.

Speaker 1 There was a piece Monday morning in the Washington Post about Passaic County in New Jersey that was pretty interesting.

Speaker 1 It was a heavily Latino area, is a heavily Latino area, and it went for Democrats in the past, but it flipped to Trump in 2024.

Speaker 1 The polling among Latino voters is very bad for Trump right now. He went from like 44, 45% approval to, I think, 24 or 22.

Speaker 1 Like it is, he's like basement level polling, but it looks like Citarelli is probably going to outperform Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 And so, you know, looking at like, is this going to be a referendum on Trump or are they going to buck some of that trend?

Speaker 1 Because typically midterm voters or, you know, midterm elections are a referendum on the party in power. So,

Speaker 1 you know, the margin is going to matter, but.

Speaker 1 double clicking down into those into the into the crosstabs and the exit polls and looking at how how those individual group groups of voters uh behave is going to be i think really interesting and really telling in in what we can maybe look for uh in the midterm elections well the there was a cnn poll out today that has trump's disapproval at 63 so i think it's safe to assume that uh the republican in new jersey will outperform that

Speaker 1 um the question is how much does that sink him i mean 63 negative uh is is bad very very bad

Speaker 1 so i guess we'll have to see i would say yeah historically bad And Zach, I take your under. I don't think she, I don't think she's going to be able to win by six points.

Speaker 1 I think it's going to be a so Phil Murphy in his re-elect, which people may have forgotten, but when we all went to bed in 2021, it looked like Murphy might have been in trouble.

Speaker 1 And then he ended up winning by three.

Speaker 1 So we may have a scenario in which that's the same thing where, again, red areas come in, but you know, I think the last time that New Jersey voted for three successive Democrats in office for governor was in the 1960s.

Speaker 1 So, you know, this would be bucking a bit of a trend. So I think it'll be interesting to see what happens.
But

Speaker 1 I'm going to put my over-under at three. Yeah.
Luke, what do you think?

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm not like, it's funny. I haven't been around for a lot of elections.
Like,

Speaker 1 the future elections

Speaker 1 were all fucking Trump. Like, I remember that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I mean, I don't think, based on the data I've seen, I don't think six points is realistic for Cheryl.

Speaker 1 it's possible some polls should you guys remember 538 and nate silver yeah and how like obsessed people were my myself included with with like his polling uh for for folks who might be too young to remember nate silver very accurately predicted um i what was it the 2008 election eight and 12 yep eight and eight and twelve and five thirty eight became like this tremendous thing it was eventually bought by abc uh i only just learned because i'm googling now that it closed ABC Disney cut it back in March.

Speaker 1 It used to be great. I mean, they did a poll of polls, like, and

Speaker 1 they reweighed all of the polls. And back in the day, Nate Silver's math, I think, was pretty magical.

Speaker 1 There used to be a website called isnate silver a witch.com that would talk about how accurate his forecasts were.

Speaker 1 But I don't know if anyone's followed him beyond his 538 days, but he's become like kind of a not good dude. Yeah.
So Nate Silver,

Speaker 1 I loved in 08 and 12, 12, he actually kept me sane because I was in the Obama administration and everyone was terrified of losing their jobs.

Speaker 1 And they were like, Romney's going to win, Romney's going to win. And I just kept going back to 538.
And I was like, nope, we got Florida, like, you know, Ohio's still in play, like all these places.

Speaker 1 And, you know, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.
But then in 16, with the Trump effect, he never figured figured out how to create a model that worked for that.

Speaker 1 And so his whole model came crashing down. And then he tried to turn himself into a bit of a pundit.

Speaker 1 And then the opposite effect happens where whatever Nate Silver says, you know, the opposite is going to happen. And he is a bit of a

Speaker 1 egotistical guy and never will admit that he's wrong. And he's kind of disappeared, except over on Twitter.

Speaker 1 where he says a bunch of dumb shit and Twitter people eat it up sometimes and sometimes they just tell them to shut up. But he's kind of a

Speaker 1 nothing burger at this point. But yeah, at one point, he was a very, very real thing.

Speaker 2 It was good in 2020. I used it all the time in 2020.
And it was, I mean, nobody was accurate in 2020 or 2016, 24, but he was actually surprisingly close in 2020.

Speaker 2 But, you know, that was an easier election to call. But he does the, what's it called, the silver bulletin or some shit now.
I think he's like a substack dude now.

Speaker 1 I don't think he has any real presence anymore, though. Well, polling is so screwed up now.
It's very hard to tell tell who's actually right and who's wrong and everything.

Speaker 1 So it's like just not a world that has as much attention as it used to. But yeah, it's very weird.

Speaker 2 Like, I mean, certain pollsters that I used to really rely on have become extraordinarily unreliable, which I don't understand.

Speaker 2 It's very bizarre. That dude who fucking runs Trafalgar or whatever is the most accurate at this point.

Speaker 2 He's like the dude who, you know, correctly called 16 for Trump, and everybody thought he was God.

Speaker 1 I do think he, I think he royally swung and missed it 2022. Oh, but he like really,

Speaker 1 he really, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just, yeah, I mean, like, look, like, it's just a tough model.
It's hard. Like, young people don't pick up the phone.

Speaker 1 And, you know, it's just, you know, it's a, it's a tough thing. And so, anyways, uh, all right.
So we have anywhere but from three. Have any of you guys ever answered a random poll? No.

Speaker 1 In any context? No.

Speaker 1 No. But never in my life.
Yeah, but you and I live in a place that they're not going to pull us here in New York because.

Speaker 2 I'm in Georgia. They would try.
They didn't try to get me.

Speaker 1 It's just really hard. So, anyways, all right.
Well, okay. So I think we're all sort of, we all think that Mikey Sherrill will win.
Just a question of how much. I certainly hope that Zach is right.

Speaker 1 I guess we'll see.

Speaker 1 The next one, we're going to keep going

Speaker 1 southwest to the Commonwealth of Virginia, where we have Abigail Spanberger, a former member of Congress, a former CIA official, is running against, oh, I've forgotten her name.

Speaker 1 And we are big enough now that I should have remembered this.

Speaker 1 The lieutenant governor, who is an actual crazy person,

Speaker 1 takes photos with like AR-15s and these weird poses.

Speaker 1 Earl Sears

Speaker 1 says that being

Speaker 1 against LGBTQ rights isn't discrimination.

Speaker 1 This is my favorite one. My favorite one.

Speaker 2 It's what happens to solar power when it's nighttime.

Speaker 1 When it's dark. And when the wind's not blowing, what happens to wind power?

Speaker 2 Yeah, this is my favorite one.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I think everybody. so the latest average polling on Spanberger has her around nine points up.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 the bigger question actually in the state is the attorney general's race with, I believe his name is Jay Jacobs, who made some really stupid and terrible comments about,

Speaker 1 I think it was a Republican challenger or somebody on the other side of the aisle,

Speaker 1 which in these in this climate is a really stupid thing to say, which has caused him to drop in the polls and brought Spanberger down a little bit.

Speaker 1 I think those are closer, but do we have any of? I guess the question on Spanberger is: is the nine points right? Or is it, is if we set that at the over-under, where do we think this lands?

Speaker 2 I think around there. I mean, Harris won by five, Biden won by 10.
She's up by 10. That's a good sign.
You know, I think it's anywhere between five and 10. I can't imagine it going below five.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 Virginia is very,

Speaker 1 uh, very tied into the federal workforce, which is very pissed off right now.

Speaker 1 Defense contractors are also affected by this, right? It's the people that you think of as traditionally Republican voting, Republican-leaning, are also affected by the shutdown. They see how

Speaker 1 needlessly harmful this is, not just to

Speaker 1 individuals who need help, but to our economy overall. So I think that

Speaker 1 due to Trump's insistence that we starve little kids,

Speaker 1 it's in Virginia is certainly going to give Democrats a boost this year. Yep.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think that if it ends up being nine or above, I think Democrats sweep all of those races.

Speaker 1 If it's below nine, we may be in some trouble with the Attorney General's race, but there's not a lot of ticket splitting at this point.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 and also Democrats have already signaled that if Spanberger were to win, they are going to try and gerrymander another seat for Democrats. We desperately need the Attorney General to be a Democrat.

Speaker 1 I mean, there's ways to do it without it, but it will make it a lot longer slog. So I know he said some terrible things, but

Speaker 1 we're sort of at a world where we don't pick the perfect person. We pick the person that can help save democracy and getting another seat in the Congress.
It's very important. So, yes.
All right.

Speaker 1 So we've done three races. We've done three races.
And now we go to one that we've been personally involved with, where we helped to organize and host the Yes On 50 live campaign.

Speaker 1 This is the gerrymander case or gerrymander ballot initiative that Governor Gavin Newsom, friend of the show, has put in front of California. And honestly,

Speaker 1 there's not much to talk about here because Republicans stopped spending money because they realize that,

Speaker 1 or a lot of the money, because they're realizing that the polling and everything shows that Yes on 50 is at a plus, I've seen as high as plus 18

Speaker 1 so far, which means that Newsom and the team have done a great job of educating voters on why all of a sudden they need to support gerrymandering after years of telling them not.

Speaker 1 Not an easy thing to do. I think the bigger question on this is, you know, how much, depending on how much they win this by,

Speaker 1 what this does to Newsom's thoughts on 2028, which he sort of dipped his toe the other day. Some people said he announced he did not.

Speaker 1 He said he was going to think about it after the midterms of 2026, which, you know,

Speaker 2 if you saw that, like, they just said, I don't want to be president, but I might essentially it's like, I don't want to be president, but I might need to be president. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like, there was a headline just like of his quote, is I don't.

Speaker 1 It was the quote.

Speaker 2 Yeah. It's like, the question is, why do you want to be president? He says, I don't.

Speaker 2 I think it's, you know, I understand what he's saying. He's like, nobody wants, I mean, some people want to be president, but you know, like, it's a tough job.

Speaker 2 And like, I think it's like he sees himself as the guy who could theoretically do the best job, but that doesn't mean that he wants to be president. He's like, I need to be president.
You know,

Speaker 1 I appreciate it. I mean, I think he wants to be president, to be clear.

Speaker 1 I do think that he's

Speaker 1 loves himself enough to imagine himself in the White House as anyone who ends up in the White House must do.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you have to.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 But I, generally speaking, and this is what I think he's trying to appeal to, I like the reluctant leader.

Speaker 1 I like the person who feels called to serve, who feels like they don't have a choice but to help fix problems.

Speaker 1 That is, that is something that I find personally inspiring. It's something that I respect a lot.
And though I think that Gavin Newsom is faking it, I will give him credit for at least trying.

Speaker 1 He's definitely faking it. Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 Chris makes a good point that may seem more, it may have sounded more of a negative than it really is.

Speaker 1 Like, look, like to be president of the United States means that you have to think that you are the only person out of 330 million people that could be president of the United States.

Speaker 1 You have to have an ego. You have to.
There's no way to not. Like for you to think that you are one out of 330 million is, I mean, look, it's just the way it is, but you also need some.

Speaker 1 If I were six foot five and had great hair,

Speaker 1 I might have that kind of ego too. But here I am, a short guy with no hair.
So I'll never be president. That's that's just the way it works.
I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1 You just have to settle for being a media magnet.

Speaker 1 Is that magnate? Magnate? Magnet? I don't know what the right pronunciation is. I don't know.
We're not that. So I don't know what it is.
But yeah,

Speaker 1 I agree. But I mean, I think if Yes on 50 is like above 15 points, I mean, my God, like that

Speaker 1 when we originally, you know, when this started, there was a bit of hesitation because there was a question of whether that people thought that Californians won.

Speaker 1 They're not used to off-year elections. So it's like, wait, what? I have to vote.
I just voted.

Speaker 1 And they are all mail-in ballots for this, I believe. I think.
I'm not 100% sure. I know my in-laws vote by mail every single time.
So it's very, at least very easy to do so.

Speaker 1 But if he clears 20 points on this thing, like, I mean, that, like, to me, at this point, even though we're so far out and I hate doing this shit, he's at the top of the list.

Speaker 1 Like, I put him, I put him above Pete Buttigieg, who I really like. I put him above Kamala Harris, who I like.

Speaker 1 But I just don't think that I I just feel like if you've run once, you've had no matter how embarrassed you.

Speaker 1 I think the electorate likes new people, new ideas, new energy.

Speaker 1 I just think it's really tough, unless your name is Donald Trump, where I guess Richard Nixon ran once and lost and then ran again, but he waited 10 years in between.

Speaker 1 So, what I'm most interested in is

Speaker 1 assuming when Momdami wins and there's a huge landslide with Prop 50, is where is Donald Trump's attention going to go?

Speaker 1 I think that

Speaker 1 he's going to have a tough time picking between do I target the Muslim guy in New York City that I now resent because I spent most of my life there and no one there ever liked me?

Speaker 1 Or do I go after potentially the next president?

Speaker 1 I think that either way, Trump is going to use ICE as a battering ram to try to destroy one or both men.

Speaker 1 But ultimately, Donald Trump's not a multitasker. So I think he's going to choose one.
Well, I think it's New York for a few reasons.

Speaker 1 And I think they think that they can make Mamdani a boogeyman and just say socialism, you know, click your heels three times. And I don't know if like Stalin shows up or something.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 But like a noun of verb and socialism.

Speaker 1 Say it all. Yeah, it's the old Rudy Giuliani trick with 9-11.

Speaker 1 That's the funniest thing Joe Biden still ever said was all Rudy Giuliani is is the noun of verb in 9-11, which seeing, yeah, I just seeing Joe Biden in this presidency and remembering he said that bit of of a dissonance.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I think they're going to pick on New York City also because it's Donald Trump's backyard. He knows it.

Speaker 1 And I think he's bitter that everybody hates him here in his own town because everybody has a story of him screwing over somebody.

Speaker 1 So I think he's going to test it because he's already done L.A., right? He already has, there's not, he doesn't get as much bang for his book for going back again.

Speaker 1 And frankly, not very successfully when he was there.

Speaker 1 So I think they're going to test New York. I did see that Mamdani is thinking about keeping on the police commissioner, which everybody seems to really like.
It's a woman,

Speaker 1 and I'm forgetting her name. I apologize.
But so, like, you know, there's going to be some

Speaker 1 carryover from these two administrations. And, you know, if Memdani's smart, like, he'll play it right.
But I think Trump's going to test him. I think they're going to send ICE here.

Speaker 1 And we've already seen it a little bit. There's even a viral video of an NYPD officer screaming at ICE in Washington Heights.
It's It's great. And if you haven't seen it, you should go look it up.

Speaker 1 I think it's really

Speaker 1 sure that's real.

Speaker 1 I thought it was real. I think it might be more of a fucking scary thing.
Oh,

Speaker 1 I think so.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think the watermark was removed.

Speaker 1 Okay. NYPD.
When ice comes, scream at them and we will all love you. Okay.
Don't let them do this stuff. So anyway, there was a video of him not doing this.
It seemed so.

Speaker 1 So this is the fucking problem with AI. We need regulations around it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we need AI regulations. That's like the biggest issue.

Speaker 1 Oh my God.

Speaker 1 But anyways, yeah, I think it's New York. I think he's going to test.
And I think, I honestly think if Memdani, that will send Memdani's pulling, I think, soaring if he does that.

Speaker 1 He sends armed ICE agents into New York City. Like, you know, it hasn't worked really well anywhere.
And we've seen the videos of abuse that.

Speaker 1 I saw this ICE agent just blowed bulldoze through a protester this weekend who wasn't even looking, just was standing.

Speaker 1 And the guy got like a 20-step running head start and just jacked this dude straight in the back. It's like, what are we doing?

Speaker 2 Well, Trump said it himself. He said, they haven't gone far enough with this stuff, is what he wants.
Yep. That's the whole thing.

Speaker 2 I think he's exactly your point: of like, LA didn't really work out for him. Chicago didn't really work out for him.
Like, that's why he's saying this shit because it's just not very effective.

Speaker 2 You know, people don't like it.

Speaker 1 For a guy sitting at 63% disapproval,

Speaker 1 it's not working for him. And I think the good news is that

Speaker 1 the worst of what they are trying to do, most the majority of the american public is not into it no even the right-wing people are liking it like joe rogan himself was like this is not this is not kind it's like yeah no show

Speaker 1 need a bag of

Speaker 1 that guy but it's not just him like it's a ton of the right-wing people they look at this like this is not what i anticipated it's like yeah maybe you should have thought about it for a second you know good one Yeah, Joe Rogan, if I went on his show, I would like to introduce him to a website that you guys might be familiar with.

Speaker 1 It's called Google.

Speaker 1 It doesn't seem like he's ever used it in his life. Did you see that piece of shit?

Speaker 1 He argued with whoever his guest or with like his producer about a video of Tim Walls dancing because it was AI. And Rogan went, that's not AI.

Speaker 1 That's real. And his dude's like, no, dude, that's AI.
And there was

Speaker 1 a full-blown fucking argument. Yeah.
Guys, but taking too much ivermectin.

Speaker 2 If you watch that video, it's like so clearly not Tim Walls. It's like Tim Walls' face on like a fat dude wearing a like some anti-Trump shirt.

Speaker 1 I'm like, what?

Speaker 1 The craziest thing is that that guy has the biggest audience in the entire United States on news. Right.
I know it's not his main point of his show, but he's bigger than any of the networks.

Speaker 1 He's certainly bigger than any of us.

Speaker 1 No one has the reach. And this guy doesn't do.
a single bit of research. I wish someone would do a super cut of all the times that he gets proven wrong when he goes, oh, and he makes a comment.

Speaker 1 They're like, no, that's not right. He's like, ooh, like, I think he had Bill Burr or somebody on talking about vaccines.
And Burr was just like destroying him. Oh, it's so good.
This is your person.

Speaker 1 He's like, I'm not going to sit here and talk to you who doesn't have a medical degree, to me, who also doesn't have a

Speaker 1 medical degree while we both sit and smoke cigars.

Speaker 2 Yeah, with the fucking American flag behind it.

Speaker 1 And I take Iver Mectin, which is a horse dewarmer, which has never been proven to do anything with COVID. Nothing.
Nothing at all. And then I saw Ron DeSantis.

Speaker 1 One of the big things he's pushing is getting Iver ivermectin over the counter in Florida is actually a bill he is trying to push. Which, can't you just go to the feed and farm store and get that?

Speaker 1 Yep, you can. Yes, you can go to tractor supply.
That's where all the QAnon freaks are doing it. You can get that.
It's so stupid. Because they're just a horse taste there.

Speaker 1 As someone who grew up on a farm, it's a like you could get it at a tractor supply. Yeah.
Most of them are mint flavored for the horses.

Speaker 2 It's so stupid because ivermectin is used for humans for other things, but not for this shit. And it's like, they're two different formulations.

Speaker 2 You think they're giving the same formulation to horses as humans? Come on.

Speaker 1 It's fucking insane. Try it.

Speaker 1 But also, isn't there the drug now for COVID that you can take that's not a vaccine if you get Pax Lovid? So why aren't they taking that? They don't like that either. They don't like that either.

Speaker 1 No, it's not meant for a horse. Yeah.
Paxlovid is a sugar cube when you eat it.

Speaker 2 The second you're old and get COVID, they just throw a Pax Lovid at you and you're fine. Like it's, it works extremely well.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah.
So I don't. Yeah.
Oh, God. But like I've used it twice and it's like a miracle drug.
Yeah. It's incredible.
Damn. Yep.
Well, extremely incredible.

Speaker 1 For history, I've had COVID eight times, I think. Eight? What? Eight times?

Speaker 1 I catch COVID like

Speaker 1 a fucking bathroom floor or something. It's ridiculous.
But of course, now that I haven't had it in months, they have a fucking miracle drug that fixes it.

Speaker 2 Well, they probably wouldn't give it to you anyway because you're too young. They usually give it to like radio.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you've got to have those pre-existing conditions, baby. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 If you live in a blue state, you can get your, you know, I got my COVID and my flu vaccines this year. Just walked up, you know, made the appointment and got it all done.
And

Speaker 1 the person laughed at me because I asked after the fact which of the vaccines she gave me, which, whether it was,

Speaker 1 what are the two? Moderna or Moderna. And she goes, shouldn't you have asked that before I put it in you? And I was like, oh, yeah, that's probably a good point.
But I was just curious.

Speaker 1 But yeah, that whole thing is just. magically

Speaker 1 master, masterfully insane, awfully insane. I don't know what I'm saying.
So back to Trump, though. I think a good conversation is, so it like Chris, as you were saying, so what does he do?

Speaker 1 I mean, I think the ice stuff we know he's going to do, but what else? Like, I have a theory that if they get drubbed tomorrow night, in those, in particular those four,

Speaker 1 that members of Republican members of Congress are going to start panicking about the shutdown.

Speaker 1 Because if they see what things are like now, and they know that the economy is weakening, we all know, like the Fed just cut rates another quarter point last week uh brissette said today that percent or bissette what percent

Speaker 1 not besson you can't keep keep all these trolls names simple but said the thing about the recession recession in a few areas yeah like i think they're i actually think if we want to shut down fast like dems wiping the floor tomorrow would would push that a lot faster yeah

Speaker 1 So that's true. Production is really going to give on that then.
Like if they, if they just decide the shutdown's done, they give on this?

Speaker 2 That's the hard part. Cause like, I feel like people don't remember.

Speaker 2 Like, the reason this is happening is Democrats looked at the worst part of the big beautiful bill and said, we're just, we're not doing this.

Speaker 2 You're going to fix this horrible thing that you guys already put into place.

Speaker 2 So it's like, it is a little tough is that the Democrats are sort of forcing them to renegotiate something that's already passed.

Speaker 2 And it's like, that's the, that's the real sticking point here is like Republicans have to do a very hard 180 on this shit if they are going to land anywhere near what Democrats want.

Speaker 2 And that's the challenge. So Tim, I I think you're right.

Speaker 2 Of like, if Democrats really overperform and they see like, oh, this path isn't great and it's only going to get worse, then I think they're going to be more open to it.

Speaker 2 But if Republicans do well, they're not going to do shit.

Speaker 1 They're just going to fucking eat it.

Speaker 1 I think that's 100% right. So like for everybody listening, I know everybody who's listening is voting, right? Right.
But

Speaker 1 it's important to run the numbers up. Even the California thing, which I think everybody has pretty much said, like the likelihood of that passing is very, very high.

Speaker 1 Margins matter. They matter a lot.
They do. Especially for signals to the other side.
So if you're just like, oh, oh, I don't need to get my ballot because I know this thing's in the bag. Yes, you do.

Speaker 1 Yes, you do. And you need to call your friends and family.
Make sure every state, you know, I even, I even called, he's listening, so he's going to get a kick out of it.

Speaker 1 But I called my brother, who lives in one of these states. I won't give away where, and made sure that he was voting.
And he was on his way. when I talked to him.
So,

Speaker 1 you know, everybody, everybody needs to do that. That's the campaigns always say it, but it's so true.

Speaker 1 Like, it's much better coming from a friend or a family member than like some no-name, you know, spam message on your phone. You're just like, get this out of here.

Speaker 1 Like, but you'll listen to people that you know. So, that to me is, is very important.
So, everybody, as you're listening, even Tuesday morning, make those calls.

Speaker 1 The other thing is to make sure to tell people that if they are in line, when the polls close, do not leave. Because if you are in line, they'll stop the line behind you wherever you are.

Speaker 1 In Virginia, I think it's seven. New York, it's nine with the polls closed.
And, but if you are in line at those times, even if the line's out the door, they have to take you.

Speaker 1 So, you always see these tweets at the end of the night. It's like, stay in line, stay in line.

Speaker 1 It's true, and it matters because the people who tend to flake tend to be Democratic voters, to be perfectly honest. And so, like, let's make sure.
I mean, I remember in 2012,

Speaker 1 I was in Virginia Beach because I was running a poll, uh a volunteer location because we were again all scared of losing our jobs so we were like we need to win virginia and then we went to a polling location and we worked with the voter protection people and we were observers and there were there was a kid i remember there was a kid he was 18 19 years old uh person of color and he was waffling he kept being like how much long he kept asking me like how long do you think this is going to be i was like i don't know man but you got to stay i'm like you got to stay like you know and he he actually uh he he left and I was like, fuck.

Speaker 1 And then he came back like two minutes later. He goes, yeah, I texted my mom that I was leaving.
And she's like, I will murder you if you don't stay in that way.

Speaker 1 And it was so funny, but it just shows you like how

Speaker 1 not everybody has the same information. Not everybody knows the stakes.
Like this kid was very well-natured.

Speaker 1 One guy, I literally got to stay in line because I propped a door open so he could huff a butt. So he didn't have to go outside.

Speaker 1 Like these, like these people will leave for any reason because it's just like, it doesn't matter as much to the regular, like, regular person who's not like paying attention. Right.

Speaker 1 Like, these things, like, you know, someday I'll tell the full story of that horrible, like, the way those people were disenfranchised in the location that I was at, but, you know, but by like machines, quote unquote, breaking and all this stuff.

Speaker 1 And it was just, and it was off. And it was in the black district in Virginia Beach.
Like, it was like, you've got to be kidding me here. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, but, anyways, these things matter. So, you know, I think, but I think it's true.
Like, if we win by a lot, the chances of this shutdown ending either later this week or next week are high.

Speaker 1 But if we don't, it's low. Yep.
And we're starting to get into the period where the shutdown stuff is going to start hurting people big time. Right.

Speaker 1 So one thing I haven't heard anybody really addressing is the

Speaker 1 annual stolen election lie. Donald Trump has been, has been, you know, using and saying stuff about stolen elections since 2015.

Speaker 1 Oh, was that a slip there, Chris?

Speaker 1 I slipped. I'm slipping.

Speaker 1 You know, he

Speaker 1 I still have the sexual assaulters club of him and Cuomo just invading my brain. They put the SA back in USA, man.

Speaker 1 Oh, terrible people. We shouldn't be laughing.

Speaker 1 So anyway, so the stolen election lie is Trump's response to every loss.

Speaker 1 And now he's got levers of power that he's using, that he has access to, and that the courts have given him permission to,

Speaker 1 that are greater than ever before.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I do think that if there is

Speaker 1 any sort of blowout

Speaker 1 tonight, that he's going to respond with, you know, with investigations and with

Speaker 1 threats and with trying to confiscate ballots and inspect voter machines.

Speaker 1 There is no reason for Donald Trump to have changed from any of the tactics that he wanted to use in 2020, but now he doesn't have people around him to stop him. And in fact, virtually

Speaker 1 everyone around him has been absolutely committed to the stone election lie that is

Speaker 1 one of the prerequisites for working in his administration. Well, he did say that he was sending quote-unquote election observers to New Jersey and California.

Speaker 1 Notice that he did not say he was sending them to Virginia, which is run by a governor at this point, Governor Junckin.

Speaker 1 It's very clear that he is going to do this and continue to flow these or push these lies, which again, like, it blows me away that so many people are convinced that the 2020 election was stolen, even though they have never, never seen one shred of evidence.

Speaker 1 Not one. It doesn't exist.

Speaker 1 These conspiracy theories are just exactly that. Like him losing all of these states that were run by Republicans should convince you enough that that was the case.

Speaker 1 But, you know, these people don't look at facts or reason or logic. So,

Speaker 1 well, the last thing that I, I should have announced this at the beginning

Speaker 1 because more people probably would hear it. But

Speaker 1 this, I think we're going to wrap this show today, but we got a very special event happening this evening that we are all participating in.

Speaker 1 All five of us will be on YouTube doing an election night event where we will be getting on YouTube and on live and talking about the returns as they come in, answering questions, doing all those sorts of things.

Speaker 1 And we're really excited about it. We've never done a YouTube live before.

Speaker 1 I think it's going to be a really fun night. And let's be honest, who wants to listen to MSNBC or CNN at this point?

Speaker 1 Nobody.

Speaker 1 Hear the same dumb shit over and over again when you can listen to these five charming, or at least four charming, you guys, guys talking about this stuff, having some fun, maybe a drink or two.

Speaker 1 you know, a couple f-bumps will probably be dropped.

Speaker 1 I still like Steve Cornacki. I mean, he's, he's a genuinely entertaining guy to watch on election night, but we're going to be better.
So,

Speaker 1 why don't you get a whiteboard and do the hand drawing of the United States, like we were talking about in a meeting earlier, how some of us had to draw that in high school, break those skills out, and then you can start doing blues and reds.

Speaker 1 And, you know, we'll get you some khakis and

Speaker 1 you'll be ready to go. Be fun.

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Speaker 1 No, well, there's only four of us right now, so I don't know where he is.

Speaker 1 He's not here. He can't defend himself.

Speaker 1 Oh, Rich. No one listening to audio knows he's missing.
That's true. By the way, we want to sell a shirt that says, where's Rich? Because he's late so often.
Yeah, was anybody buy that?

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Speaker 2 Where's my mug?

Speaker 1 Where's the mug, man?

Speaker 1 I had it. Fucking guy doesn't know how to do products.

Speaker 1 Oh, Zach. Chris has got one.
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