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Glenn,

how are you?

Panic!

Panicked!

Panic!

Things are bad!

Things are

getting a little bit better.

No, I'm bad!

That's what we're going to get today, the ups and downs of the market every 10 seconds.

I got to tell you, I'm not concerned.

So it could be very, very

bad.

No, you're not concerned.

I'm not concerned.

It's not a possible thing.

I'm actually okay through all of this.

I'm not like panicked or anything.

That's because you're an evil rich person, Glenn.

No, no, no.

Lost a lot of money last week

as an evil rich person.

Yeah, a lot of money.

A lot of money.

No, just don't think that it was.

I don't know.

You know, Jim Kramer's out there.

And Jim Kramer is kind of the opposite of me, whatever he says.

And, you know.

I think this is.

People are always so tough on Jim Kramer.

It's BS.

The poor guy.

He goes out there and he makes a bunch of stock predictions.

Shh, honey.

Leave him alone.

Honey, honey.

Yeah.

Just trying to sell it.

Just trying to sell it.

He's wrong.

He's wrong.

Anyway.

You know, Bloodbath crash, Black Monday, Asian markets sliding as we speak.

We are now 21 minutes and 26 seconds away from the open.

From the apocalypse.

I mean, look, I don't know.

Who knows what's going to happen?

We've had, what, two or three really, really bad days in a row, like, you know, four-digit drops.

Yeah.

You'd prefer to avoid those.

I don't think we'll see another whole, like, it would be surprising, even during COVID.

I'm thinking back to the COVID days when, like, there's a real reason for stocks to be dropping, right?

Like, we're just turning all of our businesses off for six months i think this is all fear um

in that period though we still saw days of big gains so i i would think that it's going to bounce around wildly is what we're going to see until this thing settles and if it continues to escalate like for example we put all these tariffs on china um they responded with 34 percent tariff of their own like what donald trump promised going into this is that he would if you raise tariffs on us we're going to continue to raise them on you right

um i i don't i don't think i don't want that to happen.

But

if he goes there and then China goes there and we have this escalation, I would assume this is going to last longer.

So far, you have 50 countries that have asked to negotiate the tariffs.

They're like,

we've rethought this.

Maybe we'll negotiate.

Vietnam went to zero.

Are we happy with that outcome?

I'm happy with negotiating.

tariffs down.

So you want them to zero?

I would love them to be at zero.

You would love them to be at zero.

Yeah, I'd love to be zero.

I would love to be at zero.

I would love them to be at zero.

That would be.

So if a country turns them to zero, we should go to zero would be your policy.

That would be my hope.

Now, that has not happened so far.

No, I know.

We hope that changes.

I hope that changes.

I hope that changes.

Because I'm with you.

I hope that changes.

Their response to Vietnam was like, great, now buy more of our stuff.

This is an interesting thing.

So Madagascar, for example, this is one that is on their list.

We import their cartoon.

We import their cartoon animals.

Yeah, we do.

Because where else do are we going to get talking animals?

No, no, no.

We can't just find them in America.

They're not in America.

I assume they're all bred in Madagascar because we keep getting those movies.

Talking Animal Factory over there.

Yes, go ahead.

So, Madagascar, we have a trade deficit with Madagascar.

They make vanilla beans really well.

Americans love their freaking vanilla beans.

We love them.

So we take in a lot of their vanilla beans.

You'll be surprised to hear that the people of Madagascar have very little appetite for our high-level financial software that we export.

They don't

want to take any of that.

In fact, they don't have any money to buy anything that we sell.

Wow.

So we have a trade deficit with that.

That seems to me to be very important.

That one seems to be like one we should negotiate.

On our side, we should be like, okay, Donald, Madagascar, we might want to just look the other way on that one.

Right, right.

Right, right.

And so Australia is the opposite, right?

Where they have

a trade surplus with them, largely because the things that we export, you know, like,

you know, technology and stuff, they need.

The things that they export, which are actually also valuable.

Stuff kangaroos.

Stuff kangaroos.

Stuff kangaroos.

Not talking ones, though.

They'll only come from Madagascar.

Crocodile boots.

Crocodile boots.

Crocodile Dundee actors.

Yeah, okay.

That, if they need another sequel.

Yeah, we got that.

But like stuff like metals.

There's an article about this that I was reading recently that like metals was the example where

we're pretty good at coming up with that stuff ourselves.

We don't need to export.

It's far away.

They're heavy to ship.

Not a great thing to export.

So we have a trade surplus with them.

Have we tried bringing them to helium balloons?

No.

All right, just saying.

So that's one other part of the negotiation.

We could do more.

I don't know where helium balloons come from, but whatever that country that is, we have to work with them.

But the point is.

God help us.

I hope it's Madagascar.

A lot of these arrangements make sense.

There's a reason why we have a deficit or or a surplus.

And like, that is

that's something that's

for like a place like Ireland.

I mean, you know, we buy a lot of lucky charms.

That's true.

Too many.

Too many.

Too many.

You know, maybe we can slow down on that.

And we might, Ireland.

We might slow down on me lucky charms.

So all leprechaun-themed items.

Yeah.

That's anything green beer.

All of it.

What about the leprechaun movies?

Because we've made like a bunch of stuff.

I banned those already in my own private little kingdom.

Yeah.

So anyway.

So we are possibly looking, and the reason why they're saying it's, you know, this could be Black Monday, I don't know if anybody remembers Black Monday, happened in 1987.

And,

you know, the Dow dropped 508 points.

That was 22%

in one day.

So the Dow at, what, 4,200, right around 4,200?

That would be looking at almost a 10,000 point plunge today if it was Black Monday.

That would be significant.

Yeah.

That would be significant.

I don't think that's going to happen.

I don't think that's going to happen.

Well, you don't know.

You don't know.

Well, it wouldn't happen because we'd close the market.

Because after Black Monday, we're like, we should close the market.

When that happens again, maybe we should just go, everybody needs to take a breath, have a seat.

Okay, but it wasn't the end of the world, right?

I mean, 22% drop.

It was not the end of the world.

It didn't happen.

You know, by the

87,

we were seeing cracks because of greed, basically, deregulation, tax cuts, a sense of invincibility.

We always go through these cycles, and

everybody started to get greedy and buying stocks, and then it just went too high, and we had problems with computers and everything else, and boom,

it was out.

Okay, so what happened?

Last week, $5 trillion wipeout.

Not a glitch.

It was an actual reaction to Trump and his tariffs.

10% base tariff on all oil imports.

You know, bigger hits on India and China.

Those are real numbers.

Jim Kramer said that was a policy nuke.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I just have a different look on this.

I don't know why.

I just have a different feel on this one.

I feel like, you know what, you know what we're not talking about?

What we're not talking about is this is the great reset.

Except it's not the great reset.

It's the great reset of the great reset.

The great reset.

We had two ways to go.

And Donald Trump never, never said it this way, but I thought I had articulated this and maybe I hadn't clearly enough.

And I've been trying to say it for the last few days.

So let me just be very, very clear.

You had two choices.

The world as we know it doesn't work.

So the first choice was what Klaus Schwab was doing, where we could all eat, you know, bugs, and they were going to reset everything, get away from the free market entirely, go all globalism and push everything up to a global government.

That would reset.

Yeah, that would reset our economies.

It would reset our dollar.

We would go to a global currency.

All of the stuff we've talked about for the last five years, that's real.

That was happening.

Donald Trump came along and said, don't like that.

Don't want to do that.

That's good.

That's really.

That's a good observation.

We shouldn't do that.

The problem is you can't just not do that because the problems are real.

The solutions, the way the world works now no longer works.

It doesn't work the way it did in 1946.

It's not 1946 again.

So we need to update the system and repair all of the damage that has been done.

for the great reset because remember what was their what was their plan to manage the decline of the West, just to keep it going enough so nobody really, and then it'll come in one violent shock and everybody will be like, oh my gosh, panic.

And that's when they will finally change everything and make the final switch.

That's the great reset.

So Donald Trump, we elected him because we didn't want that, right?

If you thought you were going to get a replay of 2016, you're mistaken because this time he gets it.

Remember we said, you know, the 2020 election was really good, it turns out, because he had time to think and realize what he was fighting and where everybody is and make a plan.

This is part of his plan.

And he told us, now he didn't say about the great reset part, but he told us that we're going in a completely different direction.

He told Europe that.

He's told everybody that.

That's what NATO is about.

That's what all of this stuff is about.

He's resetting the system.

So it will be an America first and anybody else that wants to join us, you know, England first, whatever.

We'll all get around.

We'll all get along.

We'll trade, but we're not going to do it the way the globalists have done it.

So what we're going through now is the shock to the system of the beginning of the shaking off

the

calcification of this system and restarting the engine and saying we're going in a different direction.

Throw this thing in reverse.

And so

all of the gears and everything that has been turning one direction now for almost 100 years, and especially in the last 25 to 30 years with the great reset and the WEF and everything else,

all those mechanisms, all those gears that have been going one way only all of a sudden are grinding to a halt and reversing.

That's what you're going to feel.

Now,

I didn't expect this to be

happen now.

I mean, I was expecting that I would see progress on the border.

I was hoping that I would see tax cuts by now.

I was hoping I would see more regulation cuts by now because those two things are vital before you put in the tariffs, or at least right after you put in the tariffs.

It helps ease this pain.

That's Congress having done their job.

I don't know why he's not pounding his fist on their heads right now to get that job done.

But that's what's happening.

And this is going to, this is why Donald Trump said over the weekend, what was it?

I want to give his quote.

He told the average Americans, hang tough.

Just hang tough with me.

I know

it is bad right now,

but

this is an economic revolution and we will win.

Hang tough.

It won't be easy, but the the end result will be historic.

That's what I'm hoping for.

I'm not hoping that his tariffs work.

I'm hoping for an economic revolution.

I'm looking for the end result to be historic.

And it's not just about money.

It's about changing the entire system away from that system which was pounding America into the ground and managing our decline.

Does that make sense to you?

It does make sense to me.

You don't buy into it?

No, I do not.

Really?

I think Donald Trump had a

what I expected from Donald Trump.

And again, we may very well see, lots of things will change.

There's no reason to believe this won't bounce back.

And we'll, you know, this is, I'm not at all, let's, we still have to see how all this works out.

Nine minutes and 38 seconds away from the opening bell.

Go ahead.

But I think it's reasonable to look at when Donald Trump re-election and

say to yourself, there are some things that went well and some things that didn't go well.

And

what I did expect was

him to continue with the policies that went well, the areas, like, for example, the economy.

I think the economy went really well during his first term.

And I thought we would get more of those policies and that similar approach.

And then in something like the border, where...

He's doing something different this time.

He's not just...

He's not just.

Well, that's what I'm saying.

No, but

never,

he never gave any indication he was just going to rearrange the chairs at the same table again.

Well, that's what he did last time.

He said we had the greatest economy we've had in a long time.

And you could quibble with that.

Back then.

Back in 2019.

We did.

However,

to get there, you can change the levers and make things work a little better, but you're still managing a decline.

Until you stop the spending, until you change the fundamentals of how this economy works, you're just

rearranging the decline.

I don't remember ever hearing a speech of Donald Trump saying he was managing the decline in 2019.

No, no, that's not, no, no, no.

That's not what he says he was doing.

I don't think he knew that.

That's why I said in 2020, it was a blessing.

I don't think he walked in.

He didn't realize how deep this went.

Stu, we didn't realize when

did we find out about the great reset?

2020.

That's when we found out about the great reset.

I mean, nobody knew that this is really, we didn't know how deep this was.

It's just hard to, I mean, look, again,

he did hit these things.

I'm not trying to, but like, if the cure to the great reset is, you know, Richard Trumka's policy platform for the last 30 years, it's shocking to.

I think that's unfair.

I think that's unfair.

I mean, it's the same tariffs the guy's been calling for forever.

But that's not all that he's calling for.

Certainly not.

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I think the hope for optimism is exactly what you said, which is the other part of this platform that is obviously not similar to Richard Trump's policy platform, which is the regulation improvements and the tax cuts.

It's hard for an economy, I think, to deal with only one of the parts of that platform.

And when you have the tariffs come in, which again, tariffs were part of Donald Trump's first term as well, but they were targeted.

And I talked to Kevin Roberts from the Heritage Foundation, and he pointed out, he's like, you know, I think we would advise the president to try to make these as targeted as possible, which was a very nice way he put that.

Sure.

And I think like that, what he did there is, you know, he did it on washing machines, right?

And he did it on washing machines.

And the washing machine thing,

my argument was it would not be a successful policy.

I think it cost more than it was benefited us.

However,

Our country can swallow something like that, right?

Every president does something like that, and our country can swallow it.

When you're doing it in this wide scale, our country can still swallow it.

I think we'll still live.

We'll be fine.

But like, it's not that.

I think what he's doing, though, I mean, the guy, I don't know if you've noticed this.

He's not subtle.

No, he's been very clear.

Any way, shape, or form.

That guy is not subtle.

I mean, you know, if he lives his, if he picks his underpants like he lives his life, he's wearing red leopard underpants right now.

Okay.

He's not subtle.

And I think if you look at what Starmer said over the weekend, the end of globalism is here.

And so we're going to start doing, you know, Britain first kind of policies.

Now, I find that fascinating,

especially a guy who is knee-deep in the World Economic Forum.

However,

That I think is what Donald Trump is doing.

He is telling everyone in the world, we're going another direction.

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And Klaus Schwab is telling them, their leaders, they're telling the leadership, you stay in place,

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Really?

Doesn't seem to be working.

Donald Trump is coming with a sledgehammer to break this apart.

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I'm just working on a chalkboard here because I...

Stu is, you know, Stu is bringing up some really good points and I'm trying to figure out a way to explain this.

It might take me all day to put this together, but I'll have one for you today.

I'll have a chalkboard to explain exactly what is happening, what I think Donald Trump is doing.

Yeah, I think that's really helpful.

I think the American people, I mean, look, it's not me you need to convince, right?

It's not my favorite policy, but like, you know, I mean, this is,

you live and you learn.

You see how these things work out.

I'm not all that worked up about it.

But I will say that, you know, the American people,

there's a lot of people who don't follow this stuff on a day-to-day basis.

And I think if the messaging is what it kind of has been so far, which is like,

you know, suck it up, be tough.

We'll get through this.

Look, I think we will.

I think the American people are very tough.

I think the economy is resilient.

I think capitalism is a wonderful thing that usually winds up curing these problems in the long term.

But I think that's going to be tough messaging.

Let's just say pragmatically for the midterms.

If we're down 30, 40%, which I don't necessarily think we are going to be, maybe we will, maybe we won't.

But that messaging is going to be a tough sell, I think, to voters, especially the ones that aren't like,

you know, people who are more like, hey, the reason why I voted for Donald Trump was because Joe Biden was so bad and the economy was rough.

I think it's going to be a tough sell to those people, not like the people who are like, okay, I'm a MAGA hat wearing, and those people aren't going to go anywhere, obviously.

They believe in this vision and they've seen it coming for a long time.

But I think those people in the middle might be tougher sells.

It should tell you something, however, you know, you're saying, well, that's not going to work, just saying, suck it up.

And, you know, let's get through this.

We're tougher than that.

Because that was how FDR won four terms.

That's all he did.

Yeah.

And all of his policies were nightmares.

And that's the moral, we've made this argument many, many times, the moral equivalent of war, right?

If the American people believe the moral equivalence of war, then they do tend to make those decisions.

You're right.

Correct.

Correct.

Now, here's our Treasury Secretary, who I think is really very good.

Listen to what he said to Tucker Carlson.

So the private sector, in essence, has been in recession during the Biden years.

And this is an opportunity to right-size the federal government and

unleash the private sector again because it's been hemmed down by excessive regulation and it's been crowded out by the government.

Let me play a couple of other things here.

I love that.

Me too.

Yeah.

And that's, I think, was your point in that first monologue, right?

Where it's more focus on that will

help whatever drops we're having in the markets, for example.

If he looks as dedicated to those types of policies, right-sizing government, which I think you've seen with Doge at some level, also tax cuts and regulation cuts, those things will excite the market.

At the same time, these might not,

and that could help even things out.

Let me give you Brian Decker.

I want you to listen to this one.

Listen to what he says about what Donald Trump is doing, cut 10.

Trump Trump is crashing the stock market by 20% this month, but he's doing it on purpose.

And this is why Warren Buffett just said Trump is making the best economic moves he's seen in over 50 years.

Now, here's the secret game he's playing, and it could make you rich.

So why is he doing this?

To push cash into treasuries, which forces the Fed to slash interest rates in May, and those lower rates give the Fed the ability to refinance trillions of debt very inexpensively.

It also weakens the dollar and drops drops mortgage rates.

Now it's a wild chess move, but it's working.

Now you're probably wondering, what about his tariffs?

Well I'll tell you, it's a genius play.

It actually forces companies to build here to dodge them.

It also forces farmers to sell more of their products here in the U.S.

to bring grocery prices way down.

We've already seen this with eggs.

Now remember, 94% of all stocks are owned only by 8% of Americans.

So Trump, he's taking from the rich short term and handing it to the middle class through through lower prices.

Now, tariffs may seem like they're going up one day and down the next, but it's not wishy-washy.

It's a strategy because investors hate surprises.

So they sell stocks and rush into the safety of bonds.

But mark my words, by summer, we will see Bitcoin and stock prices at a new all-time high.

Okay.

I don't know about his whole theory, and I don't even know if this is what Trump is planning on doing, but that The one thing that he said in there that is true is everybody's pulling their money out of the markets.

And where does that money go?

It goes to bonds.

When people are pouring money into bonds, what does that do?

It makes the price of bonds or the return, it's called the yield, it makes that go down because they're not having a hard time.

Price, when you think of yields, think of price the government has to pay you to buy one.

Okay.

They got a, I want a $100 bond.

Okay, well, I mean, I can, I mean, I get a lot in the stock market right now.

But if the stock market is doing poorly,

they don't really have to pay you a lot to convince you to get into it.

You know, oh, I'll give you $101, you know, for your $100.

Okay, let's just let us use it and I'll give you $101 when it's over.

When everything else is going well, nobody wants those treasuries, those bonds, and so we can't sell our debt.

And it's like, I'll give you $110,

$115,

and that's our interest.

And we're paying so much interest.

So I don't think this is strategy, although Bessett is so smart.

It might have been a consideration.

I mean, there's positives, right, that go over there.

Like, they always talk about, like, oh, the left used to do this all the time.

When the economy would look bad, they'd be like, oh, well, gas prices are down.

Well, that's because the wisdom is because there's less demand.

Right.

Like, so there are, of course, going to be positives to any economic change, just the question of whether it would be, you know, weighed out by the negatives.

Again, that's not Trump's argument.

That's just some guy.

There's obviously

a whole cottage industry of people who come up with arguments to justify everything on both sides of the field.

He is a serial entrepreneur and a financial expert.

You know what I mean?

I mean, I'm not.

I don't.

That's how he's described it.

I don't know him.

Right, I know.

So I'm not even criticizing him.

I don't know him.

I don't know anything about it.

But like, would you have been okay if the idea was Donald Trump's going to get elected and intentionally crashed the stock market?

Like, I know that's the only thing that's not.

No, I don't think that would be okay.

That's what he said literally.

I know.

And I said, I don't think that's a good thing.

I don't think that's what Trump is doing.

I don't think Trump is doing it.

No.

And I would not be also okay with someone who's just temporarily taking from the rich to give to the poor.

These are concepts that are not only not conservative, but are things that he

un-American, right?

Like,

I don't want a centralized government crashing stock markets and stealing from the rich to give to the poor.

Like, that's not what I want at all.

Now, if Donald Trump takes the positive outcome of this, like, if we do have lower, and we are starting to see some lowering rates, and

does a policy, implements a policy you and I have argued for for many years to refinance this debt long term at lower rates, then we'll be taking a positive out of a situation that might be a little shaky and might lead to great things.

Correct.

So, of course, that's what you have to do as a president

is to try to make

lemonade out of lemons when you get the lemons.

Correct.

And that would be a very good glass of lemonade.

It's still lemonade.

I still had some lemons.

I didn't want to have lemons at all.

I didn't want lemonade, but I'll drink the lemonade much more than the lemon.

Yes.

And that is a very good glass of lemonade.

It would be massively important

to the country if he could get that.

If he does a massive refinance.

Yeah, at a low rate

and hopefully continues to go that way.

But it's a tough game, and

it is

something that...

We advocated for this for a decade.

We had guests advocating for it.

It is a massively important thing.

So obviously rates coming down do good things, right?

It helps people be able to refinance some of their mortgage debt.

It helps regular people too.

So that is a side effect that could come from this.

And one that if we don't take care of, could kill us.

The debt.

I agree.

The debt and just the interest alone on the debt.

I mean, you could make a case.

I don't think that he did this intentionally, but

I bet it was kicked around.

I think the guys in the treasury are smart enough to go, you know, this is going to do.

This will drive down the interest rates on our treasury bills, our yields, and we'll be able to really, you'll see things.

You might see the housing market start to pick up, et cetera, et cetera.

You'll see other things that are happening because the mortgage rates will go down.

You know, okay.

I don't necessarily think the mortgage rates going down or the interest rates going down is always a positive.

I mean, look, we had 0% interest rates for a a very long time.

After a while, they become a very big negative.

But right now, if the government took advantage of rates that were going down and we could lock in our debt at a much lower, that would take a big,

big monkey off of our back.

Because that is one that concerns me gravely.

They never, Biden didn't refinance anything.

We had zero, 0% interest.

He didn't refinance anything.

So everything is coming up now with high interest rates.

This is just, it's just like you have a mortgage on your house.

If you had an adjustable mortgage, how would you be doing right now, right?

Because

you banked on your mortgage rate being a certain rate.

And we have like an adjustable mortgage rate.

Well, somebody needs to go in and refinance all of that, but you can't.

You can't refi when the interest rate is so high.

So that is one good thing.

I don't think it was done intentionally, but I don't think it's necessarily a bad side effect.

And I'll bet you it was one that they did talk about.

But that doesn't.

Look,

by the end of the show, I'll have it for you.

It is,

I am convinced, and I could be wrong.

I have to tell you.

Yeah,

I can tell you, everything everything that I'm saying is coming from me.

And whenever I'm wrong, it's coming from me.

You know, I rely a lot on spiritual prompting, and I don't have any on this one, good or bad.

I have none, which usually means, to me,

not that important.

That doesn't mean that it doesn't mean bad things.

It just means supposed to concentrate on other things.

And I think those other things are the things that we talk about here all the time.

And that is, how's your spiritual house?

How's your family doing?

How's your education?

How are your kids holding up?

How are you doing with social media?

How are you doing with education?

How are you doing with the things that actually matter?

That,

I feel that now.

That

is what at least I'm supposed to concentrate on right now.

This is, honestly, I mean, I had monologues prepared for this, but it's taken me by surprise because Stu is so surprised by my reaction and like, no, that's not that I've, I've, he's made me reevaluate absolutely everything I've said.

No, no, no, it's a good way.

That's your job.

It's a good thing.

Um,

but I just, I'm, I, I don't know.

Well, I mean, not worried about it.

I think, and again, this comes from a place of rooting Donald Trump on because the things you just said, all those really vital, vital important things to the American people, I think Trump's doing a really good job on.

You know, he's doing a really good job on all those things.

And I want him to continue to do a good job on those things.

And I want not only the next couple of years while he's president of the United States, I want those things to continue long-term.

And I am concerned that, you know, look, not everybody thinks.

like we do.

Not everyone's engaged in all these issues.

A lot of people are going to look at their 401ks and they're going to be like, geez, this sucks.

And that's going to be their summary of this period.

And I just, I'm concerned because look I've got a 401k like everybody else I don't like that it's down it sucks I'm pretty risk

you know I can deal with risk you know I

live in that world so I am not all that concerned when it comes to that type of thing but I am concerned about where

how much of the Trump agenda, if you want to call it that, I mean,

I think it's the American agenda.

I think it's largely a conservative agenda.

Those things that he's been pushing for for and doing a good job on, I want those to continue.

And I do believe that we, you know, if the economy does wind up seeing this as a long-term issue and when wound up seeing a downturn, that that's, you know, the midterms are at risk.

I mean, just looking at from general political analysis, you're going to see risk.

Now, a lot of people are telling me, you know, in the mentions when I talk about this stuff, they're like, oh, well, this is all going to turn around by summer or it's going to turn around by the end of the year and everything's going to be fine.

And if that happens, obviously it will be, right?

But you're introducing a a new element of risk.

And so I am concerned about that risk.

I just want to leave you with what my father told me in 1987 after all this.

I don't know, son.

I don't know what's going on with the stock market, but people are still coming in and buying bread.

Life's going on.

Yeah.

That's just the way it is.

Life will go on.

And

right now,

how much of this actually has affected you today.

I think that's where

when you hear hear the president say just it's going to get bumpy, hang on.

He's talking to those people.

He's not talking to the people who do this all day long every day and are like, my stock market is down.

You know, he's not talking to those people.

He's talking to the average person.

You're still going to go in and buy bread at the grocery store.

Things are going to get better.

Things are getting better in many different areas.

It's going to be bumpy.

Hang on.

Thanks, Dad.

People today still are going into a bakery someplace buying bread.

We still need bread.

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Oh.

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This is

the Glenbeck program.

It is April 7th, 2025.

A date which will live,

you know,

in the calendar, probably history looks.

You know,

is it Black Monday?

That's what's trending today on X.

The chatter is thick with worry.

$5 trillion wiped out last week.

Trump's new tariffs.

Trade wars.

Is that what's coming?

Jim Kramer, all kinds of red flags.

He's the red flag guy saying this is a crash like 1987.

Well, the stock market is down, what, 1,500 points?

All right, that's not good.

Don't get me wrong.

But to be like it was in 1987, it would have to crash by 10,000 points today.

That'd be kind of a big deal.

Kind of a really big deal.

So Black Friday,

I don't know.

Let's keep watching.

More on this in just a second.

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That's all right.

That's all right.

I mean, available on Blaze TV.

I find your show insulting, quite honestly.

A little bit.

A little bit.

It's fair.

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So that's good.

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Well, okay then.

That sounds great.

By the way, Klaus Schwab is stepping down.

As Nicole.

No, not Klaus.

Klaus is.

Klaus is.

Klaus is saying, I've had enough.

He's got to get, he's got to, he's got to go.

He's got to go.

And the reason why, now, he's not being pushed out.

He's not.

No, he's not being pushed out.

Apparently,

apparently women are alleging that they were pushed out and saw their careers suffer when they were pregnant or coming back from maternity leave.

And also other women claimed that senior managers had sexually harassed them, which,

huh, Klaus Schwab, that's the WEF.

What kind of ESG score would they get?

I'm just, I'm kind of wondering.

Because that doesn't sound like people that would get a good ESG score, does it?

No, but I don't think they have to worry about the ESG scores because, well, you know.

I mean, they created it.

So, you know, it's for us.

It's for us little people, not for people like Klaus Schwab.

So

I don't know if they're going to have a cake or,

I don't know.

Do Nazis still eat strudel?

So maybe they don't have cake, but they have strudel for him because that's fantastic.

The Wall Street Journal is reporting, in the end,

all it took to oust Postmaster General, whom President Term appointed in his, President Trump appointed in his first term, was a nudge from Elon Musk.

During a Friday meeting last month at Trump's Bedminster New York Club, Musk complained to the president that the Postmaster General was resisting his cost-cutting efforts.

And,

well, then he was out.

By Monday,

the Postmaster General announced his resignation, and the world wept.

Where were you, Stu, when you found out that the Postmaster General

had resigned?

In America.

I don't really know exactly where, but in the United States.

I remember exactly where I was.

I was also in America.

Wow.

Yeah.

It was awful story.

It was crazy.

How about you?

Do you remember if you were in America on the day the Postmaster General...

Very few of us, very few of us right now that are listening who would say, no, I don't even remember if I were in America or not.

I mean, some do, some do, some do.

They're that callous.

But apparently

the

Wall Street Journal is, you know,

is enjoying this,

I guess, this problem

between Donald Trump and Elon Musk.

First of all, you know, they start out with, obviously, Donald Trump is just doing everything that Elon Musk says.

And then later, in the same argument, it's like, and, you know, they don't get along.

I mean, Donald Trump won't do what Elon Musk says.

Okay.

And then it's, you know, they're two dictators.

I mean, look at them.

Look at them.

Two peas in the pot.

They're just destroying everything they touch.

And then

when that one doesn't work for more than a paragraph, it's, I mean, look at them.

They have nothing in common.

They hate each other.

They're going to break apart at any moment.

It's over.

Here's my favorite

paragraph

from this article that it says that,

let's see if I can find it, that Elon Musk and Donald Trump have nothing in common.

Nothing in common.

Wow, really?

Nothing in common.

Well, no, you know, Donald Trump plays golf.

Elon Musk doesn't.

Donald Trump wears a shirt and tie, and Elon Musk doesn't.

Aren't they both equally evil, at least?

Don't they look bad?

Of course they have that in common.

They have that in common.

You know, I think there might be something a little deeper that they might have in common.

Like, oh, I don't know.

Both of them love their country and are convinced they're doing the right thing for the country.

That's kind of a big one to you.

You might disagree with that.

That's okay.

You can disagree with it.

But they don't.

They don't disagree with themselves.

They think they're doing the right thing.

They think they're doing the right thing.

Right.

They both love America.

Now, you might disagree that they both love America.

I don't know how, especially if you're on the left.

I mean, is this one you want to argue with us that you know how to judge people?

Well, you might know how to judge people who don't love America because you are surrounded by them.

So they both love America.

They're both entrepreneurs.

It's another big one.

I mean, sure, one wears a t-shirt, one wears a golf shirt.

I technically believe they're both shirts, but, you know, that's not enough.

That's not enough.

They don't have that all-important tie.

They're entrepreneurs.

And what's funny is not just entrepreneurs, but entrepreneurs that will not listen to anyone when they say it can't get, it can't be done.

You notice that?

That's kind of a big thing.

Neither one of them will sit down and shut up.

I don't know.

They're both hated by the left.

That's kind of another big thing that they have in common.

Both of them were surprised by being being hated by the left.

You know, Donald Trump was like, like three months before he ran for president, like Barbara Walters jamming her tongue down his throat like, oh my goodness.

I mean, you judge for yourself.

It was on the view.

Different strokes.

Anyway.

And then all of a sudden, you know, they all hate him.

Same thing with Elon Musk.

Everybody was, I mean, like everybody on the left loved Elon Musk.

And now they, now, now, now, now, no.

Now they don't.

Now they're trying to burn his stuff down.

Oh, which is weird because isn't that what they tried to do to Donald Trump's, well, his family and his businesses?

Just try to burn it down to the ground, just destroy everything that he had.

So they have that in common as well.

I'm seeing a few things line up.

They're also massive disruptors.

Well, they don't have technology in common.

This is actually from the Wall Street Journal.

They don't have technology in common.

I mean, he's old and doesn't get it.

Oh, oh, he's old and doesn't get it.

That's weird because he seems to be getting the whole, we've got to build infrastructure for what's coming in tech.

He seems to have that one down.

By the way, you know who

when Nikolai Tesla died, I think this is an amazing coincidence.

Or is it?

When Nikolai Tesla died,

we needed somebody to go in and look at all of his plans and schematics and everything else to see what he was working on because he was working on very, very dangerous things.

And so we needed somebody that was smart enough to go in and look at all of it and decide what could be released, what shouldn't be released, what the government should keep.

And the guy who did that was an MIT professor who is Donald Trump's uncle.

So it's weird the Tesla connection there, isn't it?

So Wall Street Journal, you say they don't have a lot in common.

You shouldn't keep using that word because I don't think it means what you think it means.

Either that or you're just completely and totally blind.

Did I mention Klaus Schwab is leaving?

Yeah, yeah.

I just thought I'd throw that in again because, you know, it's a...

It's pretty good.

GOP Senate has now approved framework for tax cuts and spending reductions in a very, very late, late night.

The vote 5148 included two GOP senators, Susan Collins and Rand Paul of Kentucky, voting against the package.

Package contains $5 trillion in tax cuts and a minimum of $4 billion in spending reductions.

That's nice.

Let me ask you this.

The $5 trillion in tax cuts, Stu, can you just look this up for me?

Sure.

Are those actual tax cuts or are those just like, hey, we're not going to raise raise taxes by $5 trillion?

Hmm.

It's a good question.

I believe.

I do too.

I do, too.

A number that big

has to really

has to include, hey, we're just including, you know, we're, because I mean, the tax cuts weren't that big in the first place.

So, right.

Yeah, but it could be over.

This is what I love.

This is all the story says.

I just don't know.

The package contains roughly $5 trillion in tax cuts.

Okay, $5 trillion over what time period?

5 trillion years?

Because they do that one all the time.

We're going to reduce our deficit spending by $5 trillion

over the next 10 years.

And you'll be like,

okay,

I think we could do a little better than that, but at least let me figure out how much that is a year.

No, no, no.

No, we're not going to cut our spend.

We're actually going to increase our spending over nine of those years, but that last 10th year,

we are not,

we're going to find extra money that we've hidden away in NGOs and we're going to apply it.

And so you'll get all that money back.

We're going to, that's how we're going to cut it.

That never happens.

Very true.

No, I thought you had something.

I thought you had, did you have the update on that?

I don't have the exact update.

It does seem like it is the trillion, the $5 trillion would include continuation or a permanent stake.

But what else?

I don't know that.

Yeah.

See, I mean,

there was talk about potentially

lowering the

capital gains tax.

The president said over the weekend he wants it gone.

That would be great.

I mean, a capital gains tax gone.

You want to create jobs?

That would be one.

We do have this also coming in, Glenn, which is

Trump is saying he's considering a 90-day pause in all tariffs except for China.

And now the market has now shot back up and is now on positive ground for the day.

So

things have changed.

I mean, things have changed.

Again, I don't think there's any doubt that it, and he could still do this, right?

Like none of these, most of these tariffs haven't even come into effect yet.

If he just turns some off, I think we'll see a huge bounce back.

He's going to be

considering a pause is the term that I'm seeing.

But let me ask you, does that hurt the president's bargaining power?

Yes.

I would have rather seen, you know,

everybody just hold on,

let him negotiate, and just get on the phone this week and be like, you know what?

I'm not going to change.

Are you going to change?

Because I'm not going to change.

So what do you say we negotiate?

Are you one of the 50 countries?

You're not one of the 50 countries.

You want to be one of the 50 countries?

Because I'm thinking about going up.

I mean, I would have played that out.

Yeah.

I hate to doubt him because he's good at negotiating, but is that just everybody around him freaking out?

Well, I think, like, look, I don't love, obviously, the tariff policy myself.

Right.

But if you're going to implement it, implementing it with some sort of runway where people can try to figure out ways to deal with it is

usually a better approach.

So even if a 90-day

situation can at least allow these countries to say, okay, hey, what can we change?

Let's talk about this.

You know, like Israel is an example of Vietnam, you mentioned earlier, going to 0%.

Can we get more countries to do that?

Now, that's not going to wipe out his trade deficit problem.

No.

So that is, you know, that's just, that's not going to be the way he's, he's not going to be able to do that.

I'm not sure you can get everything.

I'm not sure you could get everything.

I agree.

I mean, I was putting this chalkboard together and, you know, inflation, if you want to get inflation under control, Fed, no more printing of money.

Congress, no more spending.

And then inflation, you have to expand trade, ease trade.

So products that are coming into America are cheaper.

The thing you don't do is, you know, make trade higher tariffs.

Okay.

However, if you want to create jobs, you do want higher tariffs.

That's part of the strategy on Donald Trump.

So those are diametrically opposed to themselves.

You're not going to get everything.

Yeah,

that's true.

It's, it's, look, that's why we are against centrally planning economies, because it's really hard to figure all that stuff out.

I don't mean that as an insult in this particular situation.

I mean, it's why we criticize countries like China and the Soviet Union back in the day.

It's one of the reasons they failed.

It wasn't that they actually necessarily, I mean, sometimes they did want to starve their people to death, but a lot of times it wasn't that.

A lot of times it was just like, no, we want this policy to go through.

And if starvation happens to be one of the side effects, whatever.

But like managing those things is very difficult.

And again, trade is not the biggest part of our GDP.

There's other elements to it that are really important.

So we'll see.

But I think like you see here on the rumors of this pause in tariffs, you're seeing the markets bounce back, which shows that like we're not in this situation where this has to happen.

And if we can kind of find a way, if he winds up negotiating with half of these countries and it winds up being a lot better, we're going to see really good results from that, I think.

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75,000?

Yeah.

It's over, isn't it?

It's over.

I don't think it's over.

Told you the whole thing was a sham.

It is down, although it does seem to be bouncing back up now because of this most recent announcement.

It's up to 78,000.

Again, this is a, I will say, a report of a rumor of a consideration of a pause.

That's okay.

A report of a rumor of a consideration of a pause for 90 days in tariffs, and that is causing the markets to rise.

Do you think maybe

we're just not really

equipped for all of this information?

Yes, maybe

we should,

could we reverse the information age?

Is that something that we can have we considered that at all?

Yeah,

everybody in the Biden administration tried to do that.

They did try to do that.

They tried to do that.

I'm just thinking more like EMP.

Are we in a situation where we could just, you know,

none of this seems to be.

I think maybe that's what I was feeling today.

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If you were listening last hour, Stu was like very concerned.

And

I wasn't concerned about this and don't know why.

And maybe it's because

there's nothing to freak out about yet.

There's nothing to freak out about.

I mean, yeah,

you have stocks, but if you're, I mean, if you're 65,

you're probably concerned.

You might be a little late, too, on that.

You see him bounce back

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What do I do on that?

But if you don't need the money, you don't have to pull it out.

It could be a buying opportunity.

Absolutely.

That was something I did a little of last week.

You know what?

Maybe.

Maybe on Friday I was thinking to myself, you know, hey, I still have confidence in this country.

I have a confidence in this president.

I would like to be rich like you.

My gosh.

It wasn't a lot, but I dipped my toe in a little bit.

And

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But like, you know, I think one of the things you've taught me over the years, Glenn, if I may,

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And at the end of the day,

you mentioned this often.

It'll be really interesting to see how these these things play out.

You try to have that longer-term view, a view that's not something that's going to lead you to panic.

I don't panic in these situations because there's just not, hey, there's nothing I can do about it other than trying to make maybe a smart investment here and do something with my own personal money.

The same thing with my family.

Like

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And at the end of the day, that's all you can do.

Like, all the other stuff is not going to help you.

Wow.

So try to approach it with those eyes.

It just gets difficult on certain days.

Yeah.

I'm going to tell you, you fill me with optimism.

Oh, God.

That's terrible.

And then

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Oh, no.

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The market bounced back

after

it was released in the news that Donald Trump may consider a 90-day pause.

And then we were watching it bounce back.

And then all of a sudden, it dropped back down again.

And it, well, I don't know, lost maybe

200 points again.

Yeah.

And uh not not not not not sure what happened until we checked the news it seems like all these media organizations reported

an interpretation from some social media user of an interview in which the interview wait wait i just want to track that back down okay

of an interview with trump no no no okay that's a good question who the interview was with what trump official the trump official unnamed trump official or trump official official yeah who is so we got we have Trump, and then we have the Trump official, and then

it's somebody on social media doing an analysis of what that Trump official said.

Yeah.

Right.

Right.

And then the media picks up on that.

So they're quoting National Economic Council director Kevin Hassett.

Yeah.

Okay.

And say, and basically all he said was like, look, I think the

he was asked by Brian Kilmead, would Trump consider a 90-day pause?

And has it said, I think the president's going to decide what the president is going to decide.

Well, that means, yes, he's going to consider a 90-day pause.

It's incredible.

That's how, that's where that story.

We just gave it to you like four minutes ago.

We go off the air and go into the commercial break and then it's all reversed and the stock market goes down.

I think we should probably slow down a little bit.

Yeah, and again, this is my way to rint.

The only reason

we even brought it up is to discuss why the market moved.

And it was why the market moved.

So it's an appropriate explanation, I think.

But now the officials breaking White House now just says 90-day pause is fake news.

It is fake news.

So it's not, there's no pause.

And so now the market's down again.

Down again.

That is crazy.

I will say this, Glenn, and I don't know what you think about this as far as politics go.

Again, taking out of where we end up on all of this,

we'd have really bad economic times before, right?

COVID, the housing crisis in 08,

the bursting of the bubble of the internet back in 2000.

And you go back to 87, right?

That market crash, all those things.

All of those, though, came from what seemed like an outside event, right?

Like to the American people.

Yes.

Seemed like you had talked about the housing policies and what led to the housing crisis for years before that and warned about it for years.

So there were policy

policies that were directly associated with that, but that's not how the American people took that.

It felt like it was like, oh, gosh, the housing market just crashed, right?

COVID just happened.

You know,

this one, I think, to the American people, right or wrong, is going to feel like tariffs caused this.

Okay.

And I'm wondering, I'm worried about how they

interpret that.

Let me help you out on that.

That's because people did not interpret.

The stock market and what's going on in our economy is bogus.

Yes, you're right.

I think you're right.

It's all this bogus money that the Fed keeps printing and putting into the system with 0% interest rates.

It's all funny money.

The stock market is no longer tied to anything real.

And

everybody just bypassed that and went, wow, things are really good.

Things are really good.

No, no, no.

It was all bogus.

All of that is bogus.

I think they sensed the weakness, though, during Biden, right?

Like the market went up at times with Biden, but they sensed the weakness.

They sensed it in other parts of the economy.

Correct.

I think the optimism for Trump's policies

launched into another stratosphere.

But that is our McDonald's attitude.

That is a.

Yeah, I'd like some tariffs and

Diet Coke.

I mean, no, it's not a drive-through.

You're not going to get it by the time you get up to the window.

But I think that that is the, that's the point I'm bringing up, which is I think that's how a lot of people consume things.

Correct.

And I don't think that's going to be.

Look at what just happened.

Stock market the stock market people who are supposedly yeah you know educated they turn that thing on a dime but that that's people who are really engaged right and they're overreacting to to news that they're seeing the average person is not even following this on a day-to-day basis all they're seeing is the they're seeing that general downturn and if that continues with them i i wonder if this is going to be seen if if this is turns into a recession which it's not yet if it turns into a long-term negative consequences,

it could be seen as essentially Trump's fault, which means that the entire movement has problems, as opposed to like COVID, what people saw was, okay,

China released this virus or it started in China, it took over everything.

Well, they blamed it on Trump because the media did.

I don't think he took, I mean,

I think he won in 2024 because of what people remembered from his economy in 2019.

Yes.

Right?

They looked at 2020 as some outside thing he couldn't do anything about.

No, why did he lose then?

The economy was doing really, really well.

Why did he lose?

They blamed him on

some stuff

for COVID, shutting us down, blah, blah, blah.

You know, the stuff that he did that made sense at the very, you know, the very beginning.

Yeah.

I remember that being more broad an argument than it wasn't.

No one thought it was Trump's fault that the economy crashed because of COVID.

You can blame him and say, hey, I don't think he should have locked down.

I don't think, you know, again, he didn't really do that.

Democrats ran on that.

Look at what he's done to the economy.

Right.

And they won.

And they won.

They did win.

Yeah.

They did win.

So I think it's just, I mean, I think that's just the ill-informed, again.

And that's, I mean, let me give you the survey.

Yeah.

You ready for the survey?

Yeah, yeah.

Give it to me.

Hit me with it.

Hit me with it.

Out of 50 men,

if you ask them in a 100-meter sprint,

can you beat a horse?

How many say yes?

How many say yes?

They can beat a horse.

A horse.

Is he a specific horse?

Could it be a horse that's dead?

Nope, nope.

Just a horse or a horse.

Just a regular horse.

So we assume a normal horse running at a normal speed.

Not necessarily a racehorse.

No.

Just a normal speed.

A horse.

I can outrun a horse.

The correct answer to this would be zero.

Zero.

Right.

Zero should be.

It should be.

Because, you know, a racehorse can run 40 miles an hour.

Don't know if you know this.

You can't.

Okay.

Usain Bolt, he's the fastest in a sprint.

Yeah.

27 miles an hour.

Right.

Okay.

Horse, a little faster.

Okay.

So

only 2% out of 150.

Okay.

So not.

That's actually not that bad.

I mean, 2% will say anything.

That's the

one they say.

is number 15 on the big charts of animals I could beat.

Okay.

Okay.

Number 15.

Then you get to a zebra.

Okay.

I'm going to just pass that off on maybe you don't think zebras actually exist.

You know, we have none here.

It is strange.

Deer.

I could outrun a deer, a fox,

an ostrich.

Okay.

Number 10.

I can outrun a cheetah.

A cheetah would be the one I would think would be the lowest number.

Be the lowest number.

Because the fastest animal.

Yeah.

A kangaroo.

A mongoose.

I don't even know what a mongoose is, so I'm going to give that one a pass.

Ready for this one?

I can outrun a swarm of bees.

I mean, no, you can't.

Not for a long time.

No, no, I don't.

I don't think you can.

I don't think you can.

Yes.

Have you ever seen that?

Why wouldn't just people just run if the bees when you're being swarmed?

Just run.

They can't keep up with you.

You can't outrun bees.

No.

I can outrun a house cat.

No.

I mean, people have seen cats before.

They're fast.

I can outrun a goat.

I can outrun a rabbit.

A goat?

How fast are goats?

I don't have that stat.

I don't have that statator.

Because I don't, like, I don't.

All the other ones seem completely absurd.

When I see a, I'm thinking of a goat, they're kind of like climbing the side of a mountain.

You know, they don't look that fast.

They'd probably take them.

So would you say, yes, I could outrun a hat?

I'm getting close to my air.

Really?

Really?

Okay.

I don't know.

A goat.

A rabbit?

No.

Rabbits are incredibly fast.

No.

A hippopotamus.

I mean, a hippo, I, again.

Oh, my gosh.

I've never raced a hippo myself.

But I, you know, like, a hippo doesn't seem like a fast animal.

They're moving pretty slow.

Is it the hippopotamus or the rhinoceros?

One of those is the most deadly animal alive.

Really?

Oh, they're fast?

And they'll stomp you to death.

I thought it was mosquitoes.

No.

What?

Are mosquitoes the most deadly animal?

Personally, I can outrun a mosquito.

Number two.

Why don't we just tell that to the African nations?

Just be like, tell your people to outrun the mosquito.

Why don't you run?

Number two, I can outrun an elephant.

Yeah, see, like, an elephant doesn't look like it moves quickly, but the strides are large.

You have to factor that in.

I don't have to factor that in.

I just know I can't outrun an elephant.

They're fast animals.

They're an animal.

They're a giant animal.

So are we.

We're all animals.

Yeah.

Not fast.

Look, I can, I'm not saying

I would say that I could outrun an elephant, but I can understand why someone might say that.

Why do you think we invented the gun?

Why do you think men invented the gun?

We couldn't outrun any of these animals.

That's a good point.

Okay, that's the only reason why we're at the top of the food chain is because we're like, oh, really?

Take that elephant.

I mean, that's, I can outrun an elephant.

Yes, if I have a rifle, I will do that.

Because then it'll be dead and you can walk away from it.

Okay.

So

we don't, we have a pretty healthy,

we have a pretty healthy view of ourselves.

10%

say that they have actually, sorry, 28% say they have actually been out in the wilds, someplace, and clocked an animal and thought to themselves, I can outrun that.

A tenth of them have actually tried to do that.

I don't know, got out of their car.

I was like, come on, horse, bring it on.

And 11%.

Now, out of those showdowns, mainly with dogs, 61%

have tried to race their dog.

26% have tried to race their cat.

How would you even do such a thing?

19% have tried to race a goat.

Okay.

But 60%,

only 60% say, yeah,

I couldn't out.

I couldn't run.

26% considered themselves winners.

And here's my favorite.

favorite: 14% said it was a draw.

It was a draw.

I mean, I think we both, I talked to the goat afterwards, and I'm like, you agree, right?

I mean, we finished.

I mean, basically, we're at the same place, right?

And you have four legs.

So, you know, you might have run double the distance, but you have double the legs.

So

we're a draw, right?

Oh my gosh.

I think we're,

I think we're in trouble.

18% say they would back themselves to beat

beat somebody in an arm wrestling match.

Only 11% of women.

Why?

Wait, why would only 11% of women, women are no different than men?

Wait, why?

Hold on just a second.

Oh, it's ego, probably.

It's mansplaining that 26% of men say I can beat anybody in a wrestling match.

And only 11% of women, it's probably because of what men have said to women, that you're not strong enough to beat a big, strong guy, right?

Because we all know that could happen.

72% of all respondents admitted men are more likely to believe that they could beat an animal than

women.

My favorite is,

sure, I can outrun a horse.

I can outrun a cheetah.

But

some people, one in 50, believe they can outswim a dolphin.

Wow.

Uh-huh.

Don't know if you know this.

They're in the water.

That's their domain.

You know?

Now, I could outrun a dolphin.

You put one on the beach.

I'll beat him every single time.

Outswim him?

I don't know.

I don't.

I don't think you should probably, you get a nap in.

Get a nap in.

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Women are more likely to admit that they'd lose a race to a non-human creature.

Okay.

The study went on to find 11% of 2,000 adults polled estimated they could get around the entire Grand National course, which is the you know a race course, just think of Churchill Downs.

That's four, that's four miles in less than 10 minutes.

Okay.

The course record is eight minutes and 47 seconds.

So, I mean, it probably not going to.

Are we bad at

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What is it we're bad at here besides everything?

Because it's telling us something.

I don't.

22% of adults feel.

I want to be the polar.

I want to be the person calling people and asking these questions.

22% of adults say they are confident.

that they could lift a chimpanzee off the ground.

No, I don't.

I mean, I don't know what a chimp weighs.

You know what I mean?

I imagine it's awkward.

It would probably have to work with you if you're going to.

Well, didn't you remember that Michael Jackson have him crawling on his shoulders and stuff?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I mean, you could hold one.

So, yeah, 70 to 130 pounds.

Yeah.

So you could lift one.

Well,

they would have to work with you, though.

You'd have to

fighting against you.

Right.

It would be kind of weird to just walk up to one and just hug it and try to lift it.

I think that's a bad idea.

But hey, just remember those stats

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Carol Roth.

How are you, Carol?

You know, Glenn, I told you several times that this year was probably going to be a historic economic year, and we probably see things that we haven't seen before or didn't imagine.

And unfortunately,

I'm living in the middle of all of that, right?

It's a little surreal today.

I mean, I think maybe we should...

stop panicking just a little bit.

I mean, it started with, it's going to be Black Monday.

And then

we had this weird thing about an hour ago where it's released, Donald Trump is reconsidering the tariffs, putting a 90-day pause on it.

Stock market zooms up.

And within a couple of minutes, the announcement is made from the White House.

No, that's not true.

He never said that.

And it falls back down.

I don't know.

Things are happening a little fast.

We should probably slow down just a bit.

Maybe.

Yeah, the challenge for me, Glenn, you know, when I think about the stock market, there are so many people who are worried directly about the stock market.

And I'm not as much directly worried about the day-to-day machinations.

You know, I'm old enough.

I've lived through stock market declines.

I know the stock market doesn't always go up.

I've lived through corrections.

I even, I think, mentioned multiple months ago that I felt that the stock market was overvalued.

I am not so much concerned about that because stocks go down.

And like we saw, when good news happens, stocks are going to go back up.

That's not my concern at all.

My concern are what I consider the butterfly effects.

And butterfly effects, you know, is when a butterfly flaps its wings and that makes, you know, a kind of, you know, an air current, what happens downstream from that?

So there are two things that I'm very much worried about in terms of that.

One is that if this happens over a long period of time, the stock market is actually a pretty major driver of tax receipts.

And we've talked about this choreography and this math before, that we have these crazy deficits.

The Biden administration left us a horrible fiscal position.

And the butterfly effect is that if we do not get enough receipts because of capital gains, because of consumer spending, you know, whatever it is, that we're not going to collect enough revenue into the government.

And that will actually end up exploding the deficit.

So that is one of my big concerns.

The second is the downstream effects.

on Main Street.

Main Street, as we know, has been beaten up for five years.

We had the COVID policy, we had the supply chain disruption, we had the labor market disruption, we had historic inflation.

They do not have the wherewithal to weather the machinations and the changes.

You know, big companies, they have big balance sheets, they'll find a way to get through it.

But the small companies that have been hanging on by a thread,

that is an issue.

And so when...

A, if they have the direct tariffs, and I have many clients and companies that have come to me that have direct tariffs people who've taken who've had who import from overseas because they don't have another choice currently who've seen containers that used to cost four figures now costing i'm not exaggerating this six figures and that's going to increase with the announcements from quote-unquote liberation day

or if you're not directly importing and consumers are pulling back because of the reverse wealth effect their 401ks are down they're worried about the economy that's also going to impact small business so i think when we talk about the the issues of Wall Street, we really need to bring it home to Main Street because that is the backbone of the economy.

So President Trump just

tweeted a minute ago.

You know,

did you see this?

No, please tell me.

Yeah, basically, come on, guys.

Let's pull ourselves together.

We're not these people.

Stop panicking.

Stop panicking.

Right, but how do you tell a small business who was expecting to pay $6,000 to bring in a container and now has to spend $150,000 to bring in a container and is beaten up for four years not to panic?

Unless they're going to come out, if they're going to exempt small business from tariffs and find a way to return it to them.

You know, this is not a panic because, you know, oh, there's a machination of stock market.

This is I'm going to have to fire people.

I'm not going to be able to pay my bills.

I may not have a company in a few months if this continues to go on.

I feel like that's panic worthy.

And I will note, Glenn, that the people who talked about government freedom during COVID, that the government should not be creating barriers for companies, are the same people who are cheerleading small businesses, having barriers and saying, well, if we don't like the way you're doing business, you don't deserve to be in business.

And it's starting to sound like a lot of people who are, you know, fans of Trump.

And we, listen, we all want Trump to succeed, but there are some die-hard fans who are starting to sound a lot like leftist Bernie bros right now.

So I am against you know this I've been against tariffs

and always have been.

However, I feel as though we, this is not a surprise to any of us.

None of us.

We knew he was going to do this.

We also know that

he is

He's actually gunning for the entire global system.

You know what I mean?

He's

I think the way the reason why it's called Liberation Day, why he called it Liberation Day, is to reflect back to 1945, Liberation Day, when that war was over and we put that system into place that we've been using since 1945, 46, and it doesn't work anymore.

Okay.

And so he's reversing ESG.

He is going the opposite direction of the globalization, et cetera, et cetera.

And I think he is, he's...

He is churning absolutely everything.

And I expected it to to be ugly.

He even said, well, he didn't say it would be ugly.

He said it would be difficult.

It'd be difficult.

And

I don't think people understood everything that he's taking on.

And I feel as though I am nervous about the effects because I see it too.

My friends who have small businesses, they buy anything.

And it's not like they're buying everything from China.

They may have one part, but it's an important part or the only part they can get from that country.

And they have long-term contracts on it.

So they're going to have to buy that part whether they like it or not.

And that's going to put them under.

So I understand that.

I really do.

But I'm not sure this is a really long-term thing.

Do you?

I think he's playing chicken with the rest of the world.

So here's the thing is that you said that Trump said this.

Trump says lots of things, and we've all known to take him seriously, but not literally.

So we all had an expectation that he would probably do something with tariffs.

I think what we didn't expect is that he would do it first.

We thought that he would do deregulation, get some of the tax cuts made permanent, do some of those things to juice growth, and then turn the intention.

And so the fact that we didn't have that optimism streak extended before he attacked that, I think that was a surprise.

I also think the scope By the way, I think the scope was a mistake and they're just living with it because they were supposed to be reciprocal tariffs.

A reciprocal tariff would have been, hey, they're charging us 700% on rice.

We're going to start charge them 700% on rice or they're charging us 20% on this.

That would be one way to do reciprocal.

You could also do it countrywide.

Hey, they're charging us 6%.

We'll charge them 6%.

They didn't do that at all.

They came up with some insane formula that was based on a trade deficit divided by imports that means absolutely nothing.

And I think that, by the way, a lot of people are saying, they think that that was a mistake and nobody checked the math on there and now they have to

live with it and i think that's the concern that had this been 10 across the board for everyone had this been truly reciprocal you would have a very different tenor that all of a sudden you know we're putting 30 and 40 and 50 percent tariffs on countries and really escalating things so i think that's an issue and i also think the communication here needs a complete overhaul because there are a lot of different things that are being said that are in conflict with each other and I'm with you.

I really hope that this is an art of the deal, that this is, you know, a blunt hammer approach, which is not my approach.

I would have done a cocktail party or something, but a blunt hammer approach.

He is a sledgehammer.

There's nothing subtle about Donald Trump.

He's a sledgehammer.

There's nothing subtle about that.

And hopefully that's the way.

But there are people who are making actual, like ridiculous arguments that are in conflict.

with each other.

You have some of his spokespeople out on TV saying things like, oh, we're going to raise a bunch of money and eliminate taxes at the same time saying they're going to try to take down trade.

Well, those things are in conflict with each other.

We're going to raise a bunch of money, but we're also trying to bring back manufacturing.

Well, those things are in conflict with each other.

There are people like me thinking that this is probably a way to try to refinance the debt, but that's in conflict with some of these other things that he's doing.

So everything is in conflict.

And sure, if you leave all the options open, you can declare victory much more easily.

But now you have everybody in fighting because you have people who are actually arguing really bad policy is good policy.

Okay, so I, again,

and maybe I'm giving the president too much

the benefit of the doubt here, too much room, but I don't think I am.

Because what he does is negotiate.

And I know because I know people who have been on his team and they all say the same thing.

You walk into a room with him, when he takes the room, he senses what's going going on and he can move and pivot on a dime.

What you do know is at the end, it will be good for the Trump organization.

Okay.

And so I think that these all are Trump organization or American?

No, no, no.

I said negotiating with him, you know, in real estate deals.

Okay.

I think he is negotiating now for America.

So I'm taking what he, how he negotiates

for his company, and he's applying those same principles now for our country.

And I think he cares about our country.

And so he's walking into a room and I think all those options are on the table.

You're only going to get one.

You're not going to get both.

You're not going to get all these jobs and all this tax revenue coming in.

You know what I mean?

It's going to be one or the other.

So the things that are

incongruent here, I think

is the negotiating room.

Let's see which one plays out.

Which one are we going for?

Yeah, but it's it's a little hard for the American people to palet a non-strategy.

Well, we're going to get something, right?

Like, we'll get some benefit out of it.

I don't, I don't know which one.

Or

if that's the plan, then just communicate it to people.

And listen, if this ends in a week or a couple weeks, and especially if they're willing to pay back these small business owners for the huge amounts that they've had to spend out of pocket, I'd say, great.

That was fantastic.

But there are so many things that can get damaged in the meantime.

And the longer it goes on, the more risk it is inherent.

So I think there needs to be a

there's a shelf life of this.

Yeah, okay.

I agree with you 100%.

And I don't mean to be giving him too much leeway here.

I think I'm being actually fair.

I mean, I told the story last week of he's going in to sell the Plaza Hotel.

Everybody, he's got Japanese people coming in.

Everybody that is on his team, they're focused on the Plaza Hotel.

Five minutes in, without saying anything to his team, he pivots and like, forget the plaza.

I want to talk to you about this.

And everybody on his team is freaking out.

Like, we've got to sell the Plaza Hotel.

What are you doing?

But he said after the meeting, I knew I could tell they're not going to buy the Plaza.

So I pivoted here.

Instead of a wasted meeting, I sold them this.

And I don't think that's wrong to give him the benefit of the doubt because that's the way he shoots from the hip.

I hear, I hear, let me me just, let's just take a step back on central planning, though, for a second.

And yes, and we're again, we're all on his side.

We're all rooting for him.

We're just discussing if this is the best tactic.

The issue is the central planning, even him sort of being able to do this.

What happens, Glenn, if, you know, this, even, even if it doesn't turn out badly, but let's say whether it's four years, eight years, 12 years down the road, we get in a new administration and they want to do things completely differently.

they say well that was the trump way and we don't like it and now we're going to say xyz and now every business now needs to to go and roll and change businesses cannot operate like this businesses have already decoupled from china because we were told china bad and now they're getting punished again so it's very challenging when we have a government that has that much power so then to put up these barriers i would much rather do this with incentives i am i am absolutely willing because i did this last week i said this last week.

You know who I have a problem with?

It's Congress.

This is Congress's territory.

This is not the president's territory.

The minute Congress wants to reclaim their duties and their power, I am all for it.

I do not like the government giving more power, anybody giving more power to the administrator.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

But where the hell is Congress?

Where the hell is Congress?

They are the ones that are making this giant hole.

Congress should have said right at the very beginning, okay, well, hang on just a second.

We're going to pass tax cuts.

We're going to pass the regulation.

You don't have to do that, sir.

We're passing the Reigns Act.

That gets rid of half of the regulation already, maybe more than half.

And that's our purview.

But they're not doing it because nobody in Congress has the balls to do what Donald Trump does.

It doesn't mean I like it.

And it doesn't mean that I want somebody to, you know, continue this in the next administration.

We're setting up some bad precedent, but it requires Congress to take their power back.

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So,

where is

Scott Besson is?

Carol?

It's a really good question.

He certainly has been on some of the shows and he has been sticking to the party line.

And I think that, you know, that's one of the challenges when you're in an administration that has a lot of power at the top is that you have to know your place.

And so, of course, he is not going to go against whatever the president's wishes are.

There have been some rumblings that there there are divisions kind of behind the scenes, that, you know, Besant and Hassett want a little bit more of a focused and, you know, lower tariff approach, and that, you know, Lutnick and Navarro are the ones that are really pushing on this.

So I think that there is some internal conflict and we're seeing that play out.

And unfortunately, I think at the end of the day, it's going to be...

Trump's call.

I don't think any of them are going to go against what the president is.

So I have less now, less than a minute, but I have to ask ask you this I think is the best cabinet I've ever seen in my lifetime and especially the people on the economic advisors the people you just mentioned all really really accomplished and quite brilliant

well I'll say that I think some of them are very accomplished and brilliant and I think that maybe we don't have the same but I'm not going to be the one who's going to

go get into that on air that can be a private conversation

okay

I mean I don't care if you want to get into it, we can get into it.

I don't really care.

But

Carol, thank you very much.

I appreciate it.

Thanks, Glenn.

Wow, that's saying something.

I mean, look, I think every administration has people that I think are brilliant and some that I don't.

And

that's the case with this one.

But

Lutnik, I think they're great.

There's some great ones.

I think that like it's...

I'm just looking for a hint from Carol, who she just signed off.

Yeah.

No, look,

that is, you're never going to love everything, right?

Like, the question is, as she pointed out, we all want the president to succeed.

We all want the best things for the country.

It's the approach that you question, and you hope that

the policy prescription we're looking at, it looks he just announced, it looks like 50% additional tariffs on China.

So we would assume we'll probably get reciprocal from China as well on that one.

So it's just a matter of what the approach is and how it plays out long term.

Feel bad for Walmart.

I mean, not really, but I feel bad for Walmart.

I feel bad for the shoppers at Walmart.

Yeah.

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On Friday,

I don't even know what we did exactly.

We did a bid on TV that I named that manifesto, which I think

dawned on me halfway through.

This is just something to promote Dave Landau's book.

That's all that was.

That's all that really was.

And I resent him for it.

But somehow or another, I invited him on the program again today.

Thank you.

I appreciate it a lot.

Thank you.

I enjoyed it.

Yeah, did you?

I did.

I thought it was fun.

Well, you're a guy who also robbed pharmacies.

So

I don't think we really take advice from you.

Well, in fairness, though, after I robbed the pharmacy, I only got in trouble for stealing PB crisps, the greatest snack of all time.

When I was, yeah, oh my goodness.

Yeah.

Hold on, just say, wow, what a crappy pharmacy this is.

First of all, it hired you.

Yes.

Do they know you at the time you were completely out of control?

No.

It's odd because I had to have smelled like, you know, something during the interview.

I assume I didn't go in sober.

Right.

So they still were like, this guy seems good to work at a pharmacy.

Just feel free to take out the trash that's next to all of the pain pills and valium.

And I'm like, yeah, I'll get that like eight times a day if you want.

It's no problem at all.

So the name of the book is Party of One.

And

it's actually a fuzzy memoir.

And it's your life story.

And your life is, I find it hysterical.

Thank you.

You may not have found it hysterical while you were doing it and living it.

No, not at the time.

Yeah.

Not at the time.

But it's definitely something to reflect on.

And it's kind of my teenage years.

So it's everything from, you know, stealing.

So you were stealing at a pharmacy.

In your teenage years.

I was 15.

Wow.

Yeah.

I was a go-getter.

Yeah.

It didn't didn't involve an entrepreneur.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It didn't involve schooling.

You know, I went to high school for five years.

So it's the fact that I wrote a book is and did you graduate?

I did.

Yeah.

Good for you.

Oh, the place went crazy.

Yeah.

I couldn't believe I did graduate.

I think the principal just changed a few grades.

Right.

We got to get him out of here.

Yeah.

Like, please make him leave.

Yeah.

He can't be a six-year senior.

Right.

So, and I probably would have done it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I ended up getting my life together after that.

But this is kind of, yeah, the beginning part of it.

So take me through, you know, some of the highlights of your life.

Oh, there's in the book, there's a few of them.

I guess one of the things, and it's been on Comedy Central, but this is more of the explanation, is about how I was attacked by somebody in a mental hospital where I went in, I was arrested.

You'd think those places are safe.

You'd think so, but they're not.

No, no, no, they're not.

Yeah,

you'd be surprised.

There's some real characters there.

Really?

I like to say it.

Yes.

Really?

Yes.

Stomach.

Yeah, I had bonged a fifth, a beer bonged it.

I don't know if you're familiar, but I was already pretty messed up.

And then I grabbed a beer bong.

Well, my friend did, and he poured an entire fifth of absolute vodka.

Oh, my God.

And then my friend Nick goes, This is stupid.

And then poured in a cap full of Sprite and goes, Now you're good.

So he just thought I needed a chaser.

Right.

Sure.

So I did the entire fifth, and I tab danced for four minutes, lit a cigarette backwards, and fell through a glass table.

Wow.

Yes.

And then

that was at what point in your

I want to say that was about 45 seconds after I stood up.

Right.

No, I mean, I mean, at what point in your, in your

addiction?

Yeah.

About three years in when I was 17.

Because I really started hitting it hard when I was 14, which people probably are wondering.

That seems really early.

As a dad of a 13-year-old boy, that seems really early.

Hold on just a second.

California.

California is, man.

In fact, I want to give you this story.

I want to give it to you exactly right because, you know, let's not go too harsh.

California is now saying that in a new bill, that you have to be 16 before you can ride in the front seat of a car.

Okay.

16.

16.

How hard are we going to helicopter people?

Right.

So I think

harder than that.

I don't want to come out and say, hey, hey, you stop trying to achieve things on your own, Dave.

There has to be some medium between 16-year-olds aren't allowed in the front seat, which used to be a year older than you learned to drive

and robbing a pharmacy.

I mean, isn't there something in between that?

There probably is.

We as Americans

agree on.

Sweet spot.

We would never look at a 15-year-old and go, you got to sit in the back.

There's a chair.

It'll be.

It's crazy.

Let's see.

Booster seats for under 10.

Channel.

10?

10.

10?

A booster seat?

No, my son's 10.

I think my kid would attack me.

Yeah.

Right.

There's no way he would do it.

I mean, when I was a kid, we were up.

We laid in the back window of the sedan.

Yeah, oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

You know, like a bobblehead daltler.

I mean, we were laying up in the window.

Do you remember the station wagons,

the tourist station wagons, where you sat in the back and faced out as kids?

It was fantastic.

Right.

It was like, but if you got rear-ended, only the kids would be killed.

And I think that's a very wise design.

A lot of moms slamming out their brakes randomly on the highway.

Killed the kids.

Yeah.

Especially the way people drive now.

It's it's like 75 25 yeah oh yeah but i i think we're i mean again you know you're not a good example no no i wouldn't say i wouldn't say more freedom for kids no no i'm not i i think if if i was 14 and you let me do anything i would have been the first person to have a pot store it just wouldn't have been legal right right yes which eventually did become legal in michigan

stories like yours though that have created this circumstance like people looked at your childhood and said, we need to keep kids in the back seat of cars.

Like,

you are actually the cause of all the helicopter parenting you're opposing.

Yes, I got a DUI the day I got my driver's license.

Day one.

DUI.

Yes, DUI.

Day one.

The day.

Wow.

The first day.

Yeah.

Wow.

It's specific.

You can make it.

Yeah.

I mean, a little bit.

You can make it.

You can be better than jail at 16.

You don't aim too high.

You're like, I want to work with Glenn Beck at the Blaze.

You can make that.

You can do it.

Look at at me go yeah

yeah i was 16 and i just gotten my car uh driver's license that day and i decided to uh take my dad's car we were having a family reunion i went down to the hood in detroit got liquor came back we ended up in a high-speed chase And it was with a guy who I gave a lawn job to, which is when you get on somebody's lawn, spin the tires, and it just starts kicking up grass.

People love that.

They're big fans.

And the guy sitting in his BMW that was much faster than my Buick Regal chased me.

Yes.

So you weren't smart either.

No, no, correct.

What caused you to be this way?

My dad got Agent Orange from Vietnam.

And when he was 13, when I was 13, not he was 13, I was 13, he was diagnosed with a brain tumor.

And the VA did a lot.

They did nothing to help us.

So my dad decided he had to pay out of pocket to stay alive.

So I watched my dad, who came from nothing, became a millionaire, lose everything to stay alive.

Which

Which drove you to stealing pills?

Well,

they were living in Boston at the time, and I was staying with relatives.

So I was just kind of depressed.

And my dad was everything to us, our coach, everything.

And when he ended up getting sick, I kind of just lost my way.

And they were across the country.

And I was just dealing with trying to figure out life.

And that's really hard.

I lost my mom

about the same time.

Yeah.

And had similar, I mean, you didn't rob pharmacies.

No, I was, but you went through a lot of the same struggles.

Yeah, I mean, I thought I was a bad guy until, I mean, I hope we die at exactly the same minute so I could go, Jesus, look at that guy.

This is why you keep inviting him on the show.

That's right.

That's right.

No, that's exactly what I've been to people, too.

The worst person in the situation where it's like, well, I'm not that bad.

Right.

Right.

Like anything I do.

I would have been convinced I was fine and not had a problem with alcohol if I would have been hanging around with you.

Every one of my friends that are still alcoholics felt that way.

Yeah.

So the point of the book is it's not just a really funny ride,

but it also is, I mean, I think it's number one on self-help.

It was, yeah, it is, yeah.

On Amazon.

Which is it?

It was or it is?

It goes back and forth from one to two.

All right, okay.

Yeah.

And then it's one in self-help on Amazon and one in comedy.

And

did you see it that way?

Did you set out to, which did you set out to write?

I set out to write the story, but to be honest about it, you know, it'd be as honest as I possibly could be and see what people's reaction was.

And that's basically comedy.

Any place that you were like, oh man.

Yeah, there had to be stories you did not want it to actually tell.

I held on to it for five years.

The book?

The book, five years.

Because I didn't want to put it out yet, because there's so much personal stuff in it, stuff that happened to my mom as a result of what happened to my dad.

It was very hard to deal with that.

So when I wrote it all out and actually looked at it, I'm like, oh, this is horrible.

Like,

a lot of the stuff I did was just horrible.

I mean, people are going to remember this.

So I'm going to open some wounds here.

And I also wanted to get a hold of people that were in the stories and be like, I changed your name, but is this okay?

And everybody was fine with it.

Yeah.

Wow, you turned into a good guy.

Yeah, I try to be.

How did that happen?

I don't know.

It's because of your program.

Yeah.

No, let me keep working the program.

So was the writing it out, was that part of like the fifth step or anything?

It was.

Yeah, okay.

Yeah, it was something that I had never done early on, and this was about 10 years into my sobriety.

and that's when I decided to finally really do it.

And then I realized I had a lot of stories, and I was already a storyteller on stage, so I ended up just kind of writing it out as a book.

And then when I sent it to John Wiederhorn, who's also on there, he looked over it, and he's a...

an author for rock

musicians.

And when he was shocked by stuff, I was like, oh,

that's good.

When the guy who's worked with Scott Ian from Anthrax and Ministry is like, this is a bit much.

I was like, oh, okay.

So we're onto something.

Like, he had never heard some of that before, and I was amazed.

So you've seen, I'm sure you've seen people respond online and stuff.

Yes.

Most surprised?

Five stars and people love it.

And then the emails that I've gotten saying how they've connected with it in their youth.

So there's a little something that everybody's done where they can go, oh, that story's me.

That story's me.

Yeah.

I mean, we're not as bad as you.

Oh, exactly.

No, we're not as bad as he is.

You just are because you're a dad, right?

But I mean, it's, I mean, it's interesting when you, at least with me, when I sobered up, and you with you, and someday with you, Stu, and never with Sarah, when you sober up, you, you, uh,

you realize that we are all the same.

We have different stories,

but we all are hiding something.

You know, I was thinking this weekend, it's it's interesting how, you know, in the Garden of Eden,

you know, the devil tempts him with an apple, and then the first thing he says is,

hide.

You're naked.

Hide.

Right.

Hide.

That's the first thing that Satan says is hide.

Shame.

And we still have that.

And I think it's the same whisper that says, hide that.

Nobody will like you.

Hide that.

Just like you said when you're writing it.

Everybody will think I'm horrible.

That's what I thought, too.

And I mean, I told people to hide in the book many times when the police would show up to a party,

which is why I got caught under a pile of laundry once.

A pile of laundry?

Yeah, I ran into a my friend, ran my friend, my

brother's girlfriend, I should say, hid me in a closet.

I hid there for years, no kidding.

But I was in there and she threw a bunch of laundry on me.

And while everybody's being arrested, I thought the cops would have left just for time.

And when somebody walked in, I'm like, are they gone?

And this cop's like, no, we're still here.

And I was like, oh,

cool.

Who's in there?

I'm like, E.T.

Dave Landell, the name of the book is Party of One.

You will love it.

And it's available wherever you get your books.

Just go to Amazon or wherever and get Party of One by Dave Lando.

Dave, always good to have you on.

Thank you for having me, Glenn.

I really appreciate it.

God bless.

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Sure.

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Welcome to the Glenbeck program.

You know, Donald Trump sometimes has some of the greatest moments when

he's talking about terrorists.

May I just show you a clip of him discussing the Houthis this weekend?

Here he's showing this and these are Houthis gathered for instructions on an attack.

Oops.

There will be no attack by these Houthis.

Very true.

Yeah.

No, there's

not going to be a single Houthi left in there.

Oops.

Gosh darn it.

As the bomb just lands right in the center of them.

I love that.

I mean, it's sad.

I mean, you know, don't get me wrong, it's human life.

But

when it comes to people who are in the middle of attacking you and trying to kill your people,

you don't feel quite as broken up about it.

Here are the thousands of demonstrators at hands-off protest in Boston.

They're now starting to say this is going to be the biggest

gathering.

This is bigger than the Tea Party.

No,

I don't think so.

That's Boston.

Can we just show some of the tea party?

Do we have any other photos of the tea party?

I mean, you know, those are kind of big.

Those were

rather large.

There's one tea party.

Oh, that's the April 15th.

That's the tea party.

Is that San Antonio?

Yeah, there's the Alamo in the back.

Kind of large.

Yeah, it seems pretty large.

Kind of large.

There's some more.

You know, I'm not sure you're going to be able to say these are.

And, you know, the other thing that makes it not as impressive is we didn't have billionaires backing us up.

Remember, I mean, we couldn't even get a 501c3 from

the government.

These guys print NGOs like they're going out of style and getting money from billionaires and the government.

We couldn't even get a 501c, we couldn't get tax status, so we couldn't even raise money from amongst ourselves.

And still had it.

And we didn't, you know, one of the bad things is, I have to say, we didn't have any union printed signs.

And that always makes me feel bad bad because when they show up for these

rallies,

it always seems they have union printed signs, which, hmm, I mean, we made our own signs,

but if I'm going to have it, I think I'm going to shop around for the best price.

And I doubt I'm going to get that from a union shop.

You know what I mean?

So,

but anyway, maybe that's just me.

All right.

We will see you tomorrow.

Same back time, same back channel.

Have a good day.

This is Glenn Beck.