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We have the CEO of Beth, Bed Bath, and Beyond, who is, you know, taking on Gavin Newsome, also on the same podcast, Jack Hibbs.

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Also, the Target CEO steps down.

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I have some thoughts on that.

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Marcus Limonis, he is the chairman, executive chairman of Bed Bath and Beyond, and he's currently in

some sort of a fight, if you will.

I don't think he's fighting it.

I think he's reacting like a gentleman and a businessman with his responses to Governor Newsom.

But he's in this argument with Governor Newsom because he said yesterday, Bed Bath and Beyond just cannot do business in California anymore.

It's just too expensive.

It's just too over-regulated.

It no longer makes sense for Bed Bath and Beyond.

Welcome to the program, Marcus.

Good morning.

How are you?

I'm very good.

I'm very good.

I just want to point out before we go, because I think this is important to say, because you started yesterday saying, this is not about politics.

And I just want to point out that you're not a Trump supporter.

You know, in 2017, you came out, and I'm not going to go through it because you went back and forth and corrected and everything else.

But, you know, you criticized what Donald Trump said in Charlottesville when it was thought that he had said, you know, hey, and the Nazis are pretty good too, which we now know because the full audio and video is out and we can show that that's not what he was talking about at all.

But you came out, as did a whole buttload of other CEOs, and said, you know, if that's what you believe, then, you know, please,

we don't necessarily want you shopping here.

So it's not that

you are doing this because you're a big Trump supporter.

When I saw your name attached to this, I thought, no, no, this is about business, because he's not on either side here on this.

Yeah, I'm not on either side,

but I will tell you, yeah, it's kind of accurate from a historical standpoint.

It's not accurate from a modern day standpoint.

I think as time has gone on and the facts have been revealed and things have played out and moves have been made by this administration that I think advance business and advance the American

citizen in a way that I think it puts us back on track.

I would say that I feel very differently today than I used to.

And that's really not an emotional reaction.

That's an intelligent reaction of just looking at what the administration is doing to try to deregulate business, not to the disadvantage of a worker and not to the disadvantage of anybody, but to the advantage of capitalism in our country and to the advantage of investing in American business.

And, you know, just as a reminder, Glenn, and you and I met a long, long time ago

when I had the profit at CNBC, that, you know, my other business is Camping World.

And I've been through hell and back trying to defend the flag from the same kind of ideology that I'm seeing out of California, which is your flags are too big.

They're not approved.

And, you know, anybody does a little research, they'll see that, you know, cities have sued me, cities have threatened to take me to jail, and the flag still hasn't come down.

So what you'll find with me is that I try to be really pragmatic.

I also happen to be

a resident of Chicago.

And if anybody wants a preview to the movie of what's going to happen in New York City,

come to my apartment on Michigan Avenue, and I'll give you a preview to what's happened and how socialism

is just crushing not only my personal property, but other businesses around me.

So I would say as one gets smarter and one gets older and one learns more and one listens, you know, you evolve as a human.

And

I want to make sure that we're clear about that.

I have to tell you,

it doesn't change my point of view that this is about business, but I'm so glad you cleared that up because, you know,

that's all people should be striving for is when there are new facts available, you will actually say, oh, wait a minute.

I didn't see that.

I didn't know that.

Or

things are changing.

I was wrong.

And that's so rare so thank you for for that yeah so

you know let me give you let me give you another slam uh from the left or from you know the people on you know Twitter and even Gavin Newsom oh this is you were out of business and this is just a business move to get your name out there yeah that's the only reason why you're taking California on

Well, let's talk about that.

So number one,

you know, I took over a company called Overstock about a year and a half ago.

And Overstock was a business that's been out there a long time.

And they bought the intellectual property in the fall of 23 from the bankrupt estate of Bed Bath and Beyond.

And the reason that I took it over is that the company had lost its way and was losing a lot of money.

And I made a commitment to the shareholders that we would get back to profitability.

And as part of that, Bed Bath and Beyond is a significant underpinning of that.

And so I needed to remind both Governor Newsome and other folks who

were celebrating the fact that Bed Bath and Beyond had gone out of business, were celebrating the fact that Bed Bath and Beyond had filed bankruptcy.

And it is true.

It's a fact.

It happened.

As I told Hannity last night, it happened.

The reality of it is, is that America's built on the modern day comeback.

And we've invested hundreds of millions of dollars in Bed Bath.

We've run a billion-dollar online business.

We bought a business called Kirklands that's out of Jackson, Tennessee, a family business, and we're using those 300 stores to convert.

14 of them are in California.

I was disappointed to see Governor Newsom, in my opinion, just from a level of professionalism, instead of saying, you know what, I don't agree with your points, and I think you're doing this for the wrong reasons, and whatever he wanted to say.

However, Kama, I'd love to figure out how you and a bunch of other business leaders can tell me, as the governor of the fourth largest economy in the world, which he likes to remind us every single day.

day, how to make it the third largest economy and what I could do, what things are out there that I'm willing to compromise on or that I'm willing to help understand that will drive investment back into my state, that will drive capital back into my state, that will fill commercial real estate that's empty back into my state, to appreciate commercial properties, residential properties, and to drive value.

Because as a governor of a state, my job is to protect my people.

I get it, fine,

but also to create positive cash flow for my state, which means I generate more than

I spend, but I don't want to do it on the backs of just creating another nonsensical tax.

I didn't get that.

And that's really what has made me

convinced that Governor Newsom is not doing things for the benefit of California.

He's doing things because he thinks that his so-called base is going to rally around his nonsense.

So can you, have you heard from other CEOs in the last 24 hours?

Have you heard from anybody else in California?

You don't have to name names, but

I have.

I've heard from very, very significant tech leaders in the state of California asking if there's a way for them to set up a meeting with Governor Newsome and myself.

Of course, the answer is yes.

But they all acknowledge the silliness behind avoiding capitalism and rejecting capitalism as it's this dirty word.

And everybody that wants to make money or who's experienced success is a bad person.

And that seems to be the theme that's coming out of the governor's office, particularly with his, I guess it's his intern-run

pressroom Twitter account or whatever it's called these days.

So this is not a final decision with you.

He could do something

to change your mind.

I think if Governor Newsom

was really thinking about a political run and running a state that he believes is the superior state in the country, he would invite myself, maybe not me, maybe I'm not qualified to be in a room with him, but other CEOs to say, hey, I'm hearing this and I want to learn and I want to change, much like I said to you at the beginning of our conversation, what facts do I not have and how can you convince me how I can do better, how I can learn more?

That's the sign of a good leader.

That's a leader that I want to follow.

And that's, I think, even if you just take a look at our current presidents, I think he's got a different tone in his second term than he does his first term, and I couldn't be convinced otherwise.

It feels far more collaborative, and that's what I'm looking for.

Let me play the opposite side here for a second and say what Trump is doing.

I see the regulation.

I see what he's doing to business, and it is, thank God, it is a,

I can finally breathe again as a businessman.

However, if I'm in your business, I would assume you get a lot of material,

a lot of your products from China.

How are the tariffs affecting you?

Well, we diversified the sourcing of our products.

And the one thing that when I came in

made it a bit of a mandate, and it's a balance between providing value to our shareholders and doing what I think is right.

You know, I come from the RV world where we make everything in Elkhart, Indiana, and we employ tens of thousands of people that make products in this country.

But there are parts and pieces that come from overseas.

And the reality of it is that until manufacturing in the U.S.

is set up and can handle the capacity, that in the short term, there is an alternative sourcing.

And that applies to furniture and lighting and certain textiles coming from around the globe.

And the tariffs are not great.

And I don't think that Trump would even try to defend that they're great.

It's a rebalancing act.

But Glenn, here's the thing that I mentioned on Big Money the other day.

If you're really thinking about the triangulation of how Trump is approaching rebalancing everything, whether it is using energy as the leverage to bring Ukraine and Russia to the table or using tariffs to bring other world leaders to the table, it's all really being done, in my opinion, to recalibrate America's position both politically and financially in a way

that maintains our dominance.

You know, I think that is ⁇ I think you are spot on, and you're seeing that with the way he handled Ukraine.

You know, he went in tough with the tariffs over in Europe and with NATO.

He was tough with them.

And then

he then said, you want to support Ukraine?

You can buy this stuff from us, but you have to do it, but we'll provide it to you.

And now look at all of the world leaders are at the table.

America is leading again, just not spending all the money and doing all the work.

We are in the actual leadership position, which is remarkable.

And I think he's doing that

in every category.

Listen, I think the one thing that this administration can acknowledge is that the national debt is at a level that nobody believes it should be at, and the deficit's at a level that nobody believes it should be at.

And it's a very complicated, but not overly complicated math equation.

We have a certain amount of money leaving, and we have not enough money coming in.

And the way that you rejigger that is to find the balance.

And

nobody that I know, including myself, is going to argue that the tariff execution in the last six months has been perfect.

Like, I don't even think this administration would acknowledge it's been perfect.

Right.

It's been herky jerky on the markets.

It's been herky jerky for business leaders.

And at some point, we all hope and pray that it finds its footing at some point.

And I'm not going to, nobody should try to convince anybody that the consumer isn't going to be slightly pinched.

But the balancing act of being slightly pinched on the tariff side is what sort of relief can happen on the variable interest rate side.

And that's why you see this other piece being triangulated around where's the monetary policy and how could that be modified to provide the relief to offset.

Let me ask you, are you, as a pretty influential business leader, are you,

what's your outlook look like for the first half of next year?

People are kind of holding back, holding their breath, not sure what to do.

Are we headed towards better times or same kind of times or worse times, do you think?

I think we're headed towards, unfortunately, probably a little bit more of the same.

What may be extracted from that is a little bit of the volatility.

The consumer does have a significant amount of debt and they do have a significant amount of pressure on them with the interest rates.

The balance on the interest rates are you can't just rip them down by two points tomorrow.

That's going to create chaos.

You have to stair-step it down.

And, you know, like in retail or in any business, you test and you measure and you test and you measure.

And I think what Trump has been saying and what Bessett's been saying is we just got to get some relief for consumers.

One point, Glenn, that I want to make.

Inflation during the COVID period was a function of too much money in the system, too much free money in the system, and demand outpacing supply.

In this particular instance, we don't have a demand outpacing supply problem.

We have a reset of the cost of goods problem.

And it's a different type of inflation.

And some people have said to me, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

There's only one type of inflation.

And the truth is, that's not right.

Inflation driven by demand outpacing supply is a runaway trend.

Inflation, because you're resetting and recalibrating prices when supply and demand are relatively tight in nature,

is an adjustment period.

It's transitory.

And you have to really look at the difference between the two.

And I think the Fed needs to understand the difference between those two.

Again, that's why business leaders should be far more involved.

Marcus, it's great to talk to you again.

And I have to tell you, I think that's the first time anybody said this inflation is transitory that I've agreed with.

Really great analysis on that.

Thank you so much.

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Target has announced that Brian Cornell is stepping down as the CEO of the retail giant after 11 years and

the value of the stock plummeting.

It's down, I think, 61%

since its all-time high, but its all-time high was COVID when the government said, you can only shop at Target.

It's the only safe place.

That in Home Depot, the only safe place on the planet.

So, of course, they went through the roof then and they're down.

But they're down, what, 28% since the start of the year.

Not real good.

Now, of course, everybody on the right is saying, that's because...

That's because they were involved with DEI.

And then everybody on the left is like, that's because they got rid of DEI.

Oh, well, you can't have both.

You can't have both.

So I don't know what it is.

All I know is, oh, when did they start doing that DEI thing?

Around

2022, something like that?

I feel like that's when it just became a story.

It was right around 2022, 2023.

And they may have been doing it before then.

And I know that I talked to women, I talked to my wife, and she was like, no, Target is the only place I can go and get in one stop.

I'm not, I don't care.

I don't care if the cashier is Beelzebub.

Gotta be 41.95.

I mean, it was like, I mean, you couldn't get people to stop going to Target.

Now I don't know why.

What has happened?

What's happened?

I mean, I don't shop at Target, so I don't know.

Have you heard your wife all of a sudden say, you know, Target really kind of sucks right now?

No.

I found it a lot easier to go to seven different stores.

I assume I think you're right in that we tend to just tie every news story to the thing we've been talking about.

That's something that everybody seems to do.

And

they're managing

hundreds of millions and billions of dollars of merchandise over thousands of stores.

Like they're probably more than just whether they had a rainbow shirt or not.

It's probably

bigger than that.

I mean, I would love for that to be true.

I just don't want to dance on the grave unless I know that's true.

I don't know if that's true.

Right.

I mean, because if you look at their, I'm looking at their stock chart right now.

You know, yes, it peaked in 2021.

That was, yeah, I feel like 2023, maybe it was.

There was a fall after that, but it rose back up through 2024.

Right.

It just has, it just kind of like crashed after 2025.

Now, that might have been weak holiday sales.

Like, I don't know.

I don't follow it on a day-to-day basis to know exactly what happened.

When did they get rid of DEI?

Because maybe the crash,

the last time the crash came because everybody on the right was like i'm not going to shop there and that lasted a couple of months and then their stock rebounded but now maybe when when did they get rid of dei because maybe they got rid of dei and now everybody on the left is like i'm not going to shop there and everybody will forget about it and they'll go stop shop there but maybe that was just too much of a fall for for them to take

uh except for the date here i

this is why you just don't get involved in politics politics change all the time all the time you know anybody who's looking at the, I mean, celebratory numbers of the Democrats right now and how they are just imploding, be careful because it's going to come back around.

It always does.

I remember, you know, 2008, Barack Obama and everybody else was like, the Republicans will never win ever again.

The Republicans are so out of touch.

They will never, ever, ever win.

Well, look at it now.

I mean, it just comes back.

Now, I don't know if it's going to come.

The Republicans, I don't think, ever did the damage that the Democrats are doing to themselves right now.

You know, holding press conferences with burning cars.

You know, this is mostly peaceful.

And then shootouts behind them.

And crime on the streets.

Great.

I don't know anybody who's done that kind of damage.

And that's the damage that they're doing right now.

Oh, and they're saying, they're actually saying this.

It's a mostly peaceful

protest behind me.

Pay no attention to the cars or the bullets because it's very, very safe out here.

You know what we care about is we care about redistricting because

we know that's exactly where the people are redistricting.

Guess again.

So this is interesting because it was 2023 was the conservative

pushback on all of the kind of craziness going on at Target.

And that did seem to lead to a dip in the stock price, but it recovered.

2020, so there was a new boycott by the left, a 40-day boycott that they started in March, it looks like,

to try, because they were upset that they got rid of the DEI.

This is, I mean, your summary of this is so apt because it's just like, don't get involved in this stuff.

Just freaking sell things.

Just stay out.

Just make the stuff and sell it.

Just leave it alone.

Leave it alone.

Because, I mean, it is hard.

I do

see, you know, we've had so many of these controversies over the years, and you do see how hard it must be as a company to deal with this nonsense.

Because you get targeted, you know, these things happen to you.

And if you're not an ideological thank you company that has a belief in something and you're just kind of floating out there and being like trying to react to whatever way the wind is blowing, it's got to be really hard to manage.

You know, it's not easy to do.

That being said, that's why you don't get into it, right?

Like you got to know that you look, you're an American company, you reflect American values, what your consumers want, and then you leave it.

You keep it nice and simple after that.

You don't need to make it.

Just know who you are.

You know what?

Nobody is popular.

Nobody.

Have you ever known anybody that everybody really kind of liked after a while?

If once you figure out, oh man, they don't believe any of that crap.

They're just doing that to be in the cool kid camp.

Those people never last.

Those people are not cool.

You know, the people who are cool who know who they are.

I've said this a million times.

I think the sexiest thing a woman can do is just know who she is.

Know absolutely who she is and doesn't care.

Doesn't care about what anybody else thinks.

This is what I am.

Yeah, I'm a mom.

Uh-huh.

I'm a mom.

I'm a stay-at-home mom.

If that's what she is.

Great.

I find that very attractive.

And I mean, I'm not hitting on stay-at-home.

You know what I mean.

But

nobody likes somebody who is just going with the wind.

You're a weasel.

You're a kiss spot.

That's all you are.

Anyway.

Did you see the thing on Cracker Barrel as well while we're here on companies?

Yeah.

Cracker Barrel changing their logo.

Cracker Barrel has changed their logo.

And did they really?

I mean, they got rid of the guy sitting next to the Cracker Barrel.

But other than that, it's the same logo.

I'm pretty sure.

You know, I wouldn't have noticed a difference.

I would have noticed the guy and the barrel gone.

But if that was just there, I would have liked that.

No, that's not a change.

They augmented it some.

They deleted some things in it.

But oh my gosh, this is trending on social media like crazy.

Everybody's like, they've sold out.

They've sold out because they got rid of the barrel.

Really?

Seriously?

There it is.

Yeah, I mean, I mean, it's a little different.

I mean, a little different.

Maybe the font's a little different.

There's not much of a difference.

Yeah, there's not much of a difference.

Yeah.

Play the news report on this.

Honestly, the feedback's been overwhelmingly positive that people like what we're doing.

I'll give you another sound bite.

I actually happened to be in Orlando last week with all of our managers.

We bring them together

once every other year.

And the number one question that I got asked, Michael, was, how can I get a remodel?

When can I get a remodel?

How do I get on the list?

Oh, really?

So, because the feedback and the buzz is so good, not only from our customers, but from our team members.

They want to work in a wonderful restaurant.

So we're doing everything for our guests and our team members.

Okay, stop.

This is a lie.

This is a lie.

I don't believe anybody.

I don't believe anybody, customers, maybe the managers and people who are really, really deep into Cracker Barrel.

But I don't believe any customer is ever like, you know,

I'm just going to ask the manager, when are you going to come up with a new logo?

Because I want the t-shirt.

I mean, nobody is doing that.

Nobody is doing that.

Okay, so I don't buy that at all.

But you know what I think this is?

You know, I think people are maybe, if they are, if they are upset about the guy sitting next to the barrel, the cracker barrel.

I mean, first of all, nobody knows what a cracker barrel is anymore, but

the guy sitting next to a cracker barrel, I think that could be.

Have you gone into a McDonald's lately?

i saw mcdonald's

it's just not mcdonald's i mean i like it but it's not mcdonald's and you know with everything changing i think there are some people and cracker barrel is one of these things it's nostalgic i mean it's meant to be nostalgic cracker barrels weren't really around when i was a kid

So it's meant to be nostalgic.

And the whole thing is nostalgia

and a lifestyle, an American lifestyle.

And so with Cracker Barrel, I can see people getting upset and going, hey, wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Let's not change this too.

Can we just leave things alone for just a while?

Because everything else in life is changing.

And I do believe that maybe Cracker Barrel is in this

carve out of leave it alone.

Leave it alone.

But everything else is becoming...

Did you see the, what is the,

what's the logo now that

or the is it McDonald's that is just having the M on the side of the I mean it's very small you seen that yeah a lot of the like that's been I've seen that complaint around too that like you know there was a time where you know all the characters were all over the building and the colors were all over the building and it was this exciting fun place for kids to go and now it's just this sort of like bland minimalist so but you know what that is you know what that is.

Um, millennials, not millennials, um, Z in particular,

they do not like brands.

They don't like corporate brands.

That time is over.

You remember when, I mean, it wasn't too long ago that if it was a brand, I mean, do you remember when the Ralph Lauren polo pony was little and then it became like half of the shirt was polo pony?

And you're like, okay, Ralph, slow down, calm down just a little bit.

Logos were so overdone

that

now youth,

they don't like that corporate thing.

They don't like it.

So I can see that for the youth, times are changing.

You know, I've been thinking about this a lot lately.

We are living in a time

that is as dramatic as it was when the car came in.

The horse and buggy was gone.

Electricity started.

You know, refrigeration was there.

That is the kind of change we're living in.

And we're the ones who are like, you know, you used to plow those fields by hand.

And anybody who doesn't strap it to the back of a horse, they don't know what life is.

That's who we are.

Because everything is changing.

This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

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what's happened during the commercial breaks, could be heard on the air.

And then there's days like today that I don't.

I mean, it was a full-fledged cracker barrel brawl.

I mean, it was a mostly peaceful brawl in the way that the CNN, you know, riots are mostly peaceful.

It was pretty ugly.

And we're going to be out of time.

So we're going to pick that up tomorrow.

Come for me again with your knife, Stu.

Stu.

I'm on the side of the peak

cracker barrel.

Anyway, Jack Hibbs is with us.

He's from Calvary Chapel, Chino Hills.

He's the founding senior pastor, author of Called to Take a Bold Stand, and he's been doing that for a while now.

He's really been doing that.

The book comes out next month, September 16th.

Welcome to the program, Jack.

How are you?

Glenn, thank you.

And thanks for the plug regarding the book.

I just didn't have any idea that Gavin Newsom would help me get this book to the front of the line with all the antics in Sacramento.

I know.

It is crazy.

You have been, you know, we were just talking to Chip Roy, who's now running for Texas Attorney General.

He was in Congress during COVID, and the guy was a pit bull.

And Stu and I were saying, you know, imagine if he would have been governor.

When this was going on, you know, in California with COVID, you were probably

the one of the major people standing that really made a difference i mean you did

that power didn't scare you at all

yeah no listen i mean it uh we had to stand glenn and and you know this jesus said i've i've set before you an open door that no man can shut he spoke that to the churches in the book of revelation and I, frankly, I have no authority to shut the doors of the church.

It's his church.

And so we just, we kept preaching, we kept teaching, and lo and behold,

for well over two years, we were

the most populated church for a two-year period of time.

Glenn, we were seeing anywhere from 13 to 15,000 adults on a Sunday morning because people didn't have their churches open.

So they came to our church and we were grateful to teach them.

All right.

You're on today because you said something yesterday that I found astounding.

It's about something called AB 495.

I'm going to have to have you explain that here in a second.

But you went online and you said, if this passes and he signs it in, you as a Californian, you have to take your kids and move out of the state.

That's quite a statement.

Yeah, listen, it made me sick to say it.

It's 100% true.

It's the last thing a pastor wants to say to his congregation.

But it's that bad.

As I explained the bill in a moment to you, it is that bad.

And it's not my opinion.

I've been counseled by legal on how bad it is.

And so when I said to the congregation, yeah, if you've got a kid in school, you've got to get out.

If Newsom does not veto this bill, you've got to get your kid out of California for their own safety.

It's that bad.

Okay, so

the left, the media is saying, no, he's making all this up.

Explain what's in the bill and let me play pushback on a couple of places.

Yeah, absolutely.

So number one, it's Assembly Bill 495.

And here's the deal.

It's known as the Compassion Bill.

It's a bill that Celeste Rodriguez and the entire Democrat Legislature of California crafted.

And now these are my words.

These words are my own back, the next words.

It's a bill designed to stop the bad orange man because it's all about ICE.

and its operations in California.

And here it is.

If an illegal alien is is abducted by ICE

and their child is in a state school or a private school or even a daycare center, then this bill would allow an individual, listen, any individual can go to the website, print out the affidavit from their home.

They're going to be asked a question.

Did you attempt to reach the parents or the custodians or guardians of this child?

yes or no?

Whatever they check, then they sign their name.

They write their name.

No address is required.

There's no driver's license required.

There is no social security number required.

There's no phone number required.

The person checks the box, signs the name, and then writes down the child's name that they are

withdrawing from the school for the child's own safety under the whole ruse

that their parents or parent was captured by

ICE.

Here's the crazy thing, Beck, Glenn,

is that in California, the California Education Code, we already have this.

It's California Education Code 234.7.

In the event of a child not being able to be picked up or taken into the care of a family member, be it by accident, by death, whatever, We already have this law.

So the reason we are freaking out about this law and making it loud is the fact that who is that person who downloads and prints out that affidavit?

It can be anybody.

The bill literally states they don't have to be a relation.

It can be anyone who's possessing this affidavit that is downloadable and printable at your own home.

So theoretically, Glenn, somebody could be

down the street from your grandkids or from your children, and they can see that you go to work at a certain time of day.

They know that your kid goes to a certain school.

They can go to that school with that affidavit, extract your child out.

Here's the punchline.

Because it's an affidavit, the school cannot refuse the requester of that child.

When you, Glenn, go back to pick up your child at the end of the day, the school is under no obligation to tell you who it was or where they went.

And that's why we've got, and I'm not going to name the names yet, but we've got great legal minds that are nationally recognized that have reviewed this bill.

And Glenn, this is so important.

They said in almost everything we do, the devil is in the details, the fine print.

They said, not this one.

This bill is so vague that it would be hard to defend

a parent trying to get their child or find their child because it is so loosely and so broadly written, so vague.

And Glenn, we've been told that is the worst thing that you you can have happen in California's government because our legal system, the judges, you name it, it is a dangerous bill, Assembly Bill 495.

How well do people in California know this bill?

Well, I got to tell you, Tuesday we called an impromptu rally at the state capitol.

And we had 6,500-plus people show up.

So the sergeant of arms told us that's the largest gathering regarding legislation concern in 30 years.

So yeah, good question, Glenn.

Thank you.

I'm grateful to agencies like

Newsmax and Fox and KFI Radio here in Los Angeles.

But was CBS there?

Was NBC there?

No.

So it's open grassroots.

When people are finding out about it and reading about it,

they're routing.

I mean, they are getting involved.

Here's the cool thing, Glenn.

People showed up.

They were respectful, but they were loud.

They were smiling, but they made their point.

We had a series of speakers, attorneys, and lawmakers.

And bottom line is this.

The bill has now been placed in suspension, which means

they pulled it from its progress.

They're going to reconsider the bill.

Doesn't mean they're stopping it.

They're reconsidering the bill.

They're going to review the bill.

It could either die in suspension.

By August 29th, it will either die in suspension or they'll advance it to the Senate.

And then the Senate will rubber stamp it because they're all Democrats.

I'm sorry if I'm offending any of your listeners right now.

California is a Democrat stronghold.

They have a supermajority.

They don't even put things to our vote anymore.

It's no longer we, the people, in California.

They rubber stamp things through.

They get it to Newsome.

And here's what I'm concerned about.

I hope it dies in suspension, Glenn, for for this reason.

They're getting so much heat.

We've had four Democrat senators tell us

this publicity, that crowd on Tuesday is killing us.

Hey, that's good news.

But I don't want it to go to Newsom's desk because you know what that sly dog will do?

He

may veto it and then come out and say, see how big of a moderate I am?

I put this bad bill away.

So vote for me in 2028.

Glenn, we're going to make sure that the Democrats of California and Newsom at the front of the line wears the scarlet letters of AB 495.

What are your plans now in the next two weeks?

Next two weeks, we got people praying.

We've got a website called realimpact.us.

Please, everybody, go to it.

You can get your marching orders there.

Realimpact.us.

It's going to show you the progress of the bill.

It's going to show you who to call.

What state senator is your state senator?

Give them a call.

Tell them.

Oppose it.

Kill it.

We just didn't rally, Glenn.

We gave people that day after the public speakers, we then immediately held a 30-minute class

at the state Capitol steps.

This is where you go to your legislator.

This is how you lobby them.

And let's go.

And hundreds and hundreds of people went to their state legislator on Tuesday and demanded that their senator and their assembly person speak up against the bill.

It was absolutely epic.

Again, the largest crowd in 30 years at the California State Capitol.

Well, Jack, thank you for everything that you're doing.

I can't imagine what it's like to live in California, where it seems like every day they're doing something else to injure the people and the families of California.

It's why I live in Texas.

I'm moving to Florida.

I'd live in either one of those states, but man, I could never live in California.

And I've always wanted to live in California.

It was a beautiful, beautiful state.

And now it's just, it's an insane asylum.

Yeah, glad it is.

And, you know, in fact, just flying up there, you know this state well.

Flying up there.

So we left John Wayne Airport.

Absolutely gorgeous.

We flew up the Central Valley, incredible crop fields growing beautiful.

I could see Half Dome and El Capitan to my right.

We could see the fog along the California coastline to the left.

Coming into Sacramento, again, everything's beautiful, growing fantastic until you get close enough to the ground to see the devastation that Newsom has allowed to happen to our cities, to our towns.

And even though we're still growing crops in California, that is in spite of his wickedness to cut off water to our growers to make life here as miserable as possible.

And this guy wants to run for president?

People need to wake up, Glenn, nationally and rally with us.

Because if you don't like California, people, you need to help us because Newsom is coming for America.

And he's the worst possible thing.

But Glenn, I'm concerned because he's tall, dark, and handsome, so to speak, right?

He's got the hair.

He's got the voice.

He sounds like Batman.

He's cool looking until you listen to his policies.

The guy's diabolical, and we must stop this advancement of wickedness.

I will tell you, I don't think the rest of America is falling for him.

But then again, then again, I didn't think that you could have a socialist and Islamist run and win in New York.

So, what do I know?

Jack, thank you so much again, everything that you do.

You can go to jackhibbs.com.

What is the other website you just gave me?

Yeah, real impact, like real, reality, real impact, like a punch, impact.us.

impact.us.

Thank you very much, Jack.

Appreciate it.

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