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dope

uh but anyway we have another episode of uh glenn and stew super babies um

i you know i think

We've been taking this baby filter.

I don't know if you, if you haven't seen the baby filter thing that is going around, I absolutely love it.

I could actually watch this show all day long if we were babies.

I think we are better if we look like babies, quite honestly.

The show is clearly better.

It's clearly better.

We're infants.

Yeah, right.

And everything sounds so innocent.

Now, we were doing a bit a couple of days ago about

this.

Who was it that was in trouble?

Or do you remember the name of the guy?

Oh,

Brandon Miller.

Okay.

And so

he sends a text to one of his friends, and I don't know what it means.

Stu doesn't really know what it means, and we're talking about it.

And then he explained it to me, and it was good, and it was informative, but it takes on a whole new feeling if

we're babies talking about it.

Now, if you...

If you are watching The Blaze or you're watching us on

Roku or wherever you're watching us, you'll enjoy this.

If it's radio, it's just going to sound like like a radio bit, but go to my Instagram page and you'll see the babies.

But here's what we talked about now as babies.

So this is NBA player Brandon Miller.

He got a text from his friend this night, the night in question.

And he was texted this:

I need my joint.

RL

just got Da Fakin.

And I was interesting, how would you interpret that particular defense?

Just got my joint?

No.

I need my joint.

I need my joint.

R.L.

Just got DaFakin.

Ralph Lauren.

Somebody is selling fake Ralph Lauren clothing.

He needs to get to his joint, his house, because he has some way to prove that that person is doing wrong.

You think it's a copyright infliction?

I think it's a copyright, a very large,

okay, it's a very powerful company that should be doing it themselves.

But here's this hero going and saying, I got to get to my house.

I've got to get the things that will help Ralph Lauren with this copyright infringement.

Wow.

That's how I read it.

That's

X.

See, I've never

received that.

I've done this for almost 50 years.

That's true.

That's true.

Now, I don't think Brandon was from Mount Vernon.

So there may be a bit of a dialect difference

here.

Sure.

Apparently, what he was saying was

he needed his gun, which was his joint.

Okay.

Okay.

RL,

real life.

Real real life.

So he needed a gun in real life.

It wasn't a fake gun or not a finger.

Even though finger guns are very dangerous.

No.

Yes.

You know, as you're watching this,

you know what makes this so amazing.

And so, I mean, it's wild that AI can do this now.

But what makes this so incredible is the eyes.

When you're looking in a baby's eyes, it's so innocent.

It's sincere.

It's sincere in everything.

And they're honestly trying to.

So when we're doing sarcasm, you know, it's Ralph Lauren, but you look at it as a baby.

The baby's eyes are so sincere.

And you know what?

You miss.

It's something I, for the very first time,

I'm like,

that's what Christ means about come to me as a child.

We've lost the innocence.

We've lost the,

you know, no, no baby is sarcastic.

This is just this, I'm, Lord, do not listen to this because I'm condemning myself right now.

But

babies aren't sarcastic.

You know,

they're just not.

They're honest.

They're innocent.

And they're actually trying to figure things out.

And I think that's what we lose as people.

We start to go, oh, I know exactly.

I know exactly what they're saying.

I know who they are, I know what this means.

And it's the cynicism

that stops us, or the arrogance that stops us from looking and saying, What else could this be?

What is this really?

Who are they really saying?

You know, because we've gone through life and we're like, that's not happening.

Nope, they weren't trying to, they weren't trying to help Ralph Lauren out.

It's fascinating.

It's fascinating.

Now, maybe we, maybe we as babies can figure out

8647.

Now, I don't know, Stu, if you saw the James Comey tweets yesterday.

Yes, I did.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, and when you say his tweets, I mean, he took a picture of a shell formation that he found on a beach.

He was just walking by.

He's walking by and just walking by.

And he was like, shells in the sand.

Unbelievable.

I mean, I mean, I'm sorry, but I'm not a baby with my little innocent eyes.

No.

There's no way.

I wish I was.

There's no way that that's that he just stumbled across that.

And he's like, oh, this is a cool seashell formation.

I don't really know what it means, but I know it's political of something, so I'm going to put it up on Instagram.

Well, yeah, that's obviously not true.

I mean, I guess that's what he said.

Well, he kind of played it off that way.

I mean, he said, oh, look what I found.

Either he did it himself, which is the most likely.

No, but he came back.

I don't have...

Can somebody find the response?

Because he came back later and reposted on it and said I just found it.

Yeah, I posted earlier a picture of some shells I saw today on the beach walk, which I just assumed was a political message.

I didn't realize some folks associate those numbers with violence.

It never occurred to me, but I oppose violence of any kind.

So I took the post out.

So he's saying, I just stumbled across this.

I took a picture of it.

I mean,

maybe it was a natural formation.

I mean, he knows somebody did it, but I knew it had to have some political meaning.

Right.

Do you post something that you know has some political meaning, meaning, without saying, does anybody know what this means?

I mean, even if you post it and say that.

It's a very bad idea, particularly if you happen to be the former head of the FBI.

FBI.

So he doesn't know what 86 means.

So we should set that up.

You know,

can I can walk you through this, Glenn, as a former proud veteran of chilies.

Right.

Where 86 means like when you don't want cheese on the burger that normally comes with cheese, you're like the burger 86 cheese.

Right.

Meaning you kill the cheese off the burger.

Now, also, it could mean remove the cheese, right?

Like, I mean, it wasn't, I don't know that it's it has several, it has several.

It's always violent.

It has several meanings.

It might be 86 the cheese, which means get rid of the cheese.

Yeah.

But it also

has

roots back during the bootleg time.

Now, I've heard this story.

I looked for it.

I couldn't find it anywhere.

But I heard this story from somebody who was, you know,

kind of a wandering historian of New York.

And I don't remember what place it is, but it had,

it was a bootleg club.

And during Prohibition, and it was on a block, and the basement went the entire city block.

Okay.

And so it was bootlegs and gambling underneath.

And the cops only knew about the front entrance.

And so they would say, 86, it's the cops,

which meant

the address on the other side was 86.

So it meant use that door.

Get out.

Use that door.

Don't go through the front door.

86.

It's the cops.

Oh, interesting.

So I meant get out.

When the soda jerks, and that takes on a whole different meaning today, doesn't it?

Soda jerks used to be the people in the drugstores that would pull the fountain down and it would, you know.

The soda fountains, yeah.

Yeah.

And it would be called a soda jerk.

And they had their own lingua.

They had shoot one, draw one.

They had shoot one in red.

You should know this.

If you're going up to a soda jerk, you say, shoot one in red.

What does that mean?

I don't know.

It means give me the Coke, but I want cherry Coke.

Shoot one in red.

Okay.

So they would pull the soda and they'd pour cherry soda in it or cherry flavor into it again.

So

echo was a repeat order and 86 meant we're all out of it.

Okay.

Okay.

So it's get out, vacate, we're all out or kill the cheese.

Right.

Okay.

So those are the meanings.

But if I'm on the beach and I say, and I see 86, 47,

and I'm the former FBI director, I'm like, what does I know what 47 means.

What does 86 mean?

47, of course, meaning Trump, 47th president of the United States.

Of course it does.

Now,

adding on to this, you're not only the FBI director, former, you are, of course, an opponent of the president.

It's been pretty clear over the years.

Also, I don't know if anyone noticed this, that president has almost been killed multiple times recently.

Right.

So there's an added thing where you're going to be really careful around this particular person who took a bullet on stage and almost got killed at his golf club.

Right.

I mean, look how, look how delicate we are today.

And, you know, the left used to be so, on the Kennedys with Robert F.

Kennedy.

Robert F.

Kennedy.

I mean, I don't know if there's, you know,

somebody out trying to kill him.

I just assume because he's a Kennedy, all Kennedys, somebody's out there to kill them.

It does seem that way.

It does seem that way.

But

you would never say 86 RFK.

You'd never, you,

just because we're decent people.

But when it comes to Donald Trump, and I'll bet you now with RFK too, it wouldn't be bad to say 86 RFK in some circles.

They'd be fine with killing them.

Well, first of all, yes, that's probably true in some circles.

I mean, there's an entire Hamas wing of the party.

No, but I mean

American

leftist circles.

Yeah.

They don't care.

Ends justify the means.

They're awful people.

I will say it's possible

that he didn't mean that in that way.

I mean, I know it could mean get out of

40 seconds.

I want him out.

I want him out of office, right?

Yep.

I'm sure that will be his defense.

And one of the other things that is the new left-wing pastime situation.

Hang on, as you're talking, I just can't not, I can't look at you now because I'm only seeing you as a baby.

I have very innocent eyes.

I know.

The

you just want to gobble your cheeks up.

That's why I'm eating more

to get those cheeks nice and plump.

The new left-wing pastime on Twitter today and on social media is to search for all of the conservatives that did tweet 8646 at some point during the Biden presidency.

And there were.

They weren't the former FBI director.

That's a very fair point.

I mean, I don't know if you've seen it.

That's why I think I've never seen 8647.

I've never seen that.

846.

I haven't seen it either, but apparently people did post it during the day.

But who are they?

I mean, look, we all have the crazy person that lives on our street.

We've always had that.

Growing up, you always had, oh, he's crazy Jim down the street.

Don't, kids, stay away from crazy Jim.

We all had the neighbor who was like, you know what?

And I'll tell you what else is happening right now that nobody knows.

And you're like, oh, okay.

I mean, you know, there are some conservative influencers that just didn't like Biden, that tweeted it, not meaning that wanting him dead, but wanting him probably removed from office.

All that being said, none of them, as you pointed out, were

people who were the former FBI director, number one.

None of them also

were

talking about a president that had almost been assassinated multiple times recently.

Right.

Right.

So, I mean, those two areas, I think, are a massive distinction, particularly the first one.

I mean, even if, you know,

if someone had tried to assassinate, God forbid, we would hope that they never do,

Joe Biden when he was in office, and you tweeted that after, I mean, it would be insensitive and probably a really bad idea.

And a waste of time.

But again,

it's almost redundant.

Yeah, I mean,

he's almost

almost there.

He's weighed out.

He is, yes.

His health isn't particularly strong, as you note.

However, beyond that, being the director of the FBI means that you are constantly processing a stream of threats against

the executive.

Yes.

And the fact that you would be in there and think that that was appropriate, knowing obviously what 86 could mean.

It doesn't necessarily mean that, but it could mean that.

Honestly,

when I saw it, I didn't think he was saying kill him.

I thought he was saying get him out.

Get him out.

Because that's what 86 means.

To me, at least, get out.

Get out.

Yeah.

So it's impeach him, cancel him, whatever.

However,

you know, again, when you're the FBI, former FBI director, you have a little more responsibility.

It's massively irresponsible.

Massively.

And he should just come out and apologize for it.

He should not say, I randomly saw these shells.

They washed up on the beach like that, I guess.

I don't know who did it.

And I thought it might be political, so I posted it.

Nobody believes that.

Another thing is, if you're the former FBI director, maybe never post anything on social media.

I don't know.

Do something that's supposed to be important.

I just don't even understand people with this nonsense.

When we come back, I want to tell you Cash Patel's take on this and what he tweeted back.

We'll do that in just a second.

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Are you buying that the former FBI director didn't know what 86 Trump meant?

Absolutely not, Jesse.

That is a ridiculous and insane statement to make, certainly within this context, but especially coming from a guy who's the former director of the fbi a guy who spent most of his career prosecuting mobsters and gangsters people who know and execute other humans and use this exact lingo of 86 this is the guy who's issuing a hit on president trump the president that the american people voted for we the american people cannot take this lightly whatever your politics we cannot allow people to get by without being held accountable for this kind of public call to assassinate the president of the United States.

The rule of law says people like him who issue direct threats against the president of the United States, essentially issuing a call to assassinate him, must be held accountable under the law.

You know, I do believe Comey should be in jail.

Stop, stop, stop.

I've never,

I, you know,

she's not only beautiful, she talk pretty too.

She, I never thought of it that way.

He's a guy who's been prosecuting gangsters, and they do say, hey, Nikki Noise, I think needs to be 86.

You know what I mean?

That is the language of assassination in the mob.

And this guy has spent his whole life prosecuting the mob.

I take back what I say, where I thought, you know, he just probably thought, no, he's at least smart enough to know that in some circles, that does mean kill.

And you would never do that.

You would never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever do that.

I wouldn't.

Would you?

If you knew something meant in some powerful circles, kill that person.

Of course not.

Right.

Of course not.

Right.

But it has innocent, it has innocent verbiage, you know, if you were a soda jerk.

Yeah, it does.

It does.

It does.

But if you're the FBI director and you're not working prosecuting soda jerks, but the people who know what 86 means,

I don't, I guess, you know what?

She's right.

I don't give him a break.

I don't give him a break.

I was giving him a break just a few minutes ago, but I think Tulsi is right.

Now, should he go to jail?

We'll get to that.

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Are you buying that the the former FBI director didn't know what 86 Trump meant?

Absolutely not, Jesse.

That is a ridiculous and insane statement to make, certainly within this context, but especially coming from a guy who's the former director of the FBI, a guy who spent most of his career prosecuting mobsters and gangsters, people who know and execute other humans and use this exact lingo of 86.

This is the guy who's issuing a hit on President Trump, the president that the American people voted for.

We, the American people, cannot take this lightly.

Whatever your politics, we cannot allow people to get by without being held accountable for this kind of public call to assassinate the President of the United States.

The rule of law says people like him who issue direct threats against the president of the United States, essentially issuing a call to assassinate him, must be held accountable under the law.

Do you believe Comey should be in jail?

I do.

Wow.

They're not going to let that one go.

That does not look like one they're going to let go.

And should they?

I mean,

again,

I understand what you're saying.

I understand what she's saying here.

I think,

you know,

whether it

rises to the level, I mean, it certainly rises to the level of a Secret Service visit.

I mean, we've had them before, by the way, here, even back in the day.

We were talking about a president and then in that same conversation I said you said dude you said what I should choke you to death or something like that yeah you threatened my life on national radio

I wish I would have done it

but anyway

would have solved a lot of problems and so somebody called the FBI or Secret Service and said Glenn Beck just issued a death threat and the Secret Service came out and they were like look we We listened to the tape.

We know you didn't do that.

We know you didn't do that, but we still have to go through this formality.

And so we talked to him and

felt horrible that that could even be construed that way.

We have, we have always, always, my whole career, I have had one, we joke about anything.

One thing we never joke about are death threats, especially to the commander-in-chief.

Never, never, never, never, never, never, never.

We don't joke about that.

And that has been a hard, fast rule.

And, you know, if you're the former FBI director, you'd think you'd have that hard, fast rule.

That's what makes it really infuriating.

Again,

we have a very, very

wide berth for speech in this country.

Rightfully so.

And

you have to be really careful about we're just going to start arresting people for shell formations they just found on a walk.

Yeah.

See, why would you even say that?

Why would you say that you just found that on the walk?

I mean, plausible deniability.

Maybe.

Exactly.

Why?

Maybe.

But also, like, that is the style of a social media post.

Like, you know, if I,

I mean, I've probably posted

nothing to do with

this particular messaging, but, like, that's sort of like, gosh, I can't believe I found this.

And it's obvious you did it.

You know what I mean?

I think that's a standard.

Now, again, James Comey, not exactly the most

personality at all,

talk influencer all of a sudden.

Where he knows all that.

I mean, that's so stupid.

But I mean, that is, I would say, the style of a normal social media post.

Just, you don't normally include something that could be interpreted as an assassination attempt against the president.

And that's usually a really bad idea.

Again, I think the distinction here between

him and many other people who have tweeted similar things is he's supposed to know better.

And it makes you wonder, did he know better?

And I think there's a plausible, plausible...

argument for that.

And I will say, regardless of what we think, there is a plausible argument for it.

And if you look at the way that Tulsi Gabbard and Donald Trump, by the way, responded to this, quite clearly, they are going to take it very seriously and they are going to push this as far as they possibly can.

And they should.

Not for revenge, not because I don't like Comey.

Nothing.

We have got to stop saying, hey, go to their house and kill them, go to their house and SWAT them.

Go to their house in 86.

We've We've got to stop saying that, especially as people who are who know better and are in the public eye.

And

if you're a government official, stop it.

Yeah.

And by the way, we should note, we're talking about a group of people that Comey is obviously a part of at this point

on the Democratic side.

Half of that party right now is cheering on a guy who assassinated the CEO of a healthcare company.

Right.

Right.

This is not a time to be playing around with this stuff.

And I don't, look,

you know, we would say the same thing, and we have said the same thing, by the way, about people who say

about

Democratic candidates.

When we were and everybody was horrified by January 6th, before we knew all of the

horrified by January 6th, that doesn't mean that they handled it right or that like every period.

They obviously overdid it.

There's a million things with that.

But when they lump.

When we lumped everybody in as part of that, okay.

I'm gonna get, I hate to keep stopping you because you're trying to make a point, but we never lumped everybody in on that.

We made a distinction from the beginning.

The people that committed violent acts are at a much different place than the people who

we have a journalist who works for us who is in there just filming what happened, and they tried to prosecute him.

I guess I'm just trying to say, as it's happening, right?

As it's happening, yes, I'm watching it and I'm horrified, and I'm like, how is anybody part of this?

Okay.

This has got to stop.

Now, I look and sift through people and I still say, if you were doing anything violent, you were breaking windows, anything else, you should go to jail.

However,

even

at both times, when I was horrified by it, and then when I was horrified by the government and those who were involved in it, in violence, I still said the same thing.

We don't do that.

We don't do that.

We don't do that in America.

We don't do that.

We don't burn our own cities.

We don't loot our own stores because, well, they have enough.

They wronged me back in 1772.

We don't do that.

And the minute we do that, we begin to be

animals.

We're animals on the street.

We might as well just be living.

You're going to need a cage for everyone to live in if they're always just going to take out their own feelings and burn something down or kill people.

We don't do that.

That's not the way a society, a civilization remains a civilization.

Now,

we're on the air saying

those things.

We don't do that.

Where are the Democrats saying that to people who are burning things down, who are causing riots, who are saying 86, 47?

Every Democrat, every Democrat, and this would have happened 25 years ago.

Every Democrat today would have stood up and condemned him and said,

excuse me.

Whatever you meant, we want to make it clear, you don't do that.

But they're not.

They're not.

They're all jumping to defend him.

What?

Why don't you stand up and say, this is wrong?

I don't know what he meant, but he should have never done that.

That's irresponsible.

You can have a country with people who are doing that.

I don't know how you have a country in a civilization where people just excuse.

excuse this while the other people on the same side are shooting insurance executives in the head.

You don't have a society.

You don't have a civilization.

You just don't.

So it's right to

make sure that he's held accountable for that.

Somebody has got to set

lessons out.

Somebody has to start paying for bad behavior.

You've lost control.

Look at what the prime minister of, what was it, Sweden said.

It's obvious we have lost control of the wave of violence.

Meaning, we can no longer control the streets.

The government cannot control the violence.

We can't keep people safe.

Why?

Because they have spent years now, oh, well, but they're a different religion.

Oh, well, they just don't understand or they're new or they're this.

And you should be quiet.

You should accept them.

You should.

Now they can't control the violence.

It's completely out of control.

It's going to be like this here if people

are not held accountable for their actions.

And I'm not saying he belongs in jail.

I don't know.

That requires attorneys, prosecutors, and investigators.

But

for those people who do break the laws, somebody has got to make an example out of them.

Don't do it.

You know why the death penalty worked back in the day?

The death penalty, the death penalty worked back you know, when the mobs were crazy, and it was all the gangsters and prohibition and everything else.

They were just shooting cops, just shooting them because, you know, we got to get away with all this booze and the money and the money's too great and everything else.

So they were just shooting cops until if you shoot a cop, it's automatic death penalty.

So you would go to trial and then they'd strap you to the electric chair.

Not five years down the road, within months, you'd be in the electric chair when everybody remembers oh yeah that guy oh they just found him guilty

right it was a real deterrent it was a deterrent because people knew you wouldn't kill a cop only the worst of the worst would kill a cop now

it doesn't matter what anybody does it seems

That has to change or we do not have a society.

And once that society begins to melt down, what happens?

Once the society begins to melt down, then you need strong men to come in and say, I'll take control.

I'll set the examples.

You don't want that.

We still have a chance to turn this around without a strong man.

But this has to stop.

I think too, if I add to this of how this is going to be handled, you have a situation where everything you just said, I think is true, right?

Like we're on the edge.

There's a real violent movement in this country doing things like this, right?

So you have that as one element.

You have another element of the president of the United States literally took a bullet.

Like that was a real thing.

And if you think about the way he's thinking about this,

hey, these are real threats.

My life almost ended in Butler.

and at his own golf course.

These are real threats and not something you screw around with.

We have to take it seriously.

And to add on to that,

he and everyone around him really hate this guy.

Now, I know you might say that's got nothing to do with it, and you said revenge,

but I don't think it would be.

He wouldn't just do this.

But when all three of those things we say are all aligned,

if I were James Comey's attorney, I would be thinking there's going to be large invoices I'm going to be sending out very soon.

I would not think this is just going to pass over.

And I hope you look at their reaction.

That's a serious reaction.

It should be.

The guy, they have tried to kill the guy over and over and over again.

Stop it.

Yes.

That's a good lesson, Glenn.

Look at that.

All right.

That's a Friday lesson for everyone who's listening.

Try not to kill the president.

That's a real, stop talking about it.

Stop doing it.

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We haven't talked at all about the P.

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How are you, Glenn?

I'm great.

I'm great.

I'm not following the Diddy thing.

I mean, just

what I have read this week is absolutely disgusting.

I mean, beyond,

I mean, I've read disgusting and you kind of read it kind of like you watch a car wreck.

I can't even read this stuff.

It is so grotesque.

What is actually being exposed here?

What do you think actually happened?

And why aren't they going after anybody but Diddy?

I'm going to.

I got my tinfoil hat on as I'm talking to you, Glenn.

So I want the audience to be aware.

Ah, crap.

Now I can't read his mind.

So listen, I think they're holding a trial about, hey, Diddy's a really bad person.

He's a sexual degenerate.

He turns violent against women that he's dating.

But in terms of racketeering or sex trafficking and all that, none of that is being addressed.

And I think there's probably a good chance that Diddy either walks or the jury just convicts him, hey, you're a bad person.

But in terms of the actual sex trafficking and he's this ringleader of this sexual exploitation deal, they're not proving that case.

And I'm not sure if they have an interest in even arguing that case.

At this point, Glenn, four or five days into the trial, I think they raided Diddy's home to strip him of his power and leverage and blackmail material and that all this is really about is taking away Diddy's leverage and handing it over to

the Department of Justice or whoever is responsible for this or stripping him of the most damaging information he had on key people that they they don't want harmed but in terms of a serious criminal prosecution of Sean Combs, that's not what's transpiring here.

Wow, that was a mouthful.

I need my tinfoil hat for that one.

What the hell?

So wait, so wait a minute.

You're saying that

maybe he was an operative, or if he wasn't an operative, he was collecting stuff on people.

And now the government wants that to either protect those people or to have the power over those people?

And to strip Diddy of his power.

To me, at this point, four or five days in, and based on what they're arguing, I I yesterday,

they basically argued that his girlfriend, Cassie Ventura, and I'm talking about the prosecution, argued that she was the one that paid the sex workers.

I mean, this trial is a farce.

It is proving that

Diddy is a sexual degenerate.

Diddy is violent towards women he's dating.

But in terms of you know, this major, major sex trafficker and all that, no,

they're not even attempting to argue that.

And so I think that Diddy, being a bit of an idiot, probably got too full of himself and started threatening the wrong people with the information he had.

And someone needed to put him in his place.

Like, no, you're an operative, you're a tool, you're an asset.

You're not some ringleader.

You haven't ascended to a place of power where you can actually use this information to start blackmailing people.

And so they've stripped him of his information.

They've totally destroyed his reputation.

And, you know, again, maybe this jury will be so repulsed by Diddy, which they could be, that they'll just convict him of something that hasn't been proven in court.

So, who are the mysterious they?

The people that

attended Diddy parties, who Diddy may have threatened.

And

look,

I hate to use this name because I'm just fitballing here.

Yeah, you're just speculating.

Let's take a LeBron James who has said he went to Diddy parties.

And clearly, LeBron James is an important asset in the Democratic Party and trying to push black people to stay on the Democrat plantation.

And so if LeBron James is on tape somewhere and he's admitted that he went to Diddy parties, ain't no party like a Diddy party.

If I'm the globalist, the Lesis, you know, and LeBron is an important asset for me, I want that information stripped from Diddy.

I want control of that information.

LeBron James is our asset, not Diddy's asset.

And so I'm using LeBron James, but there may be other people like that.

Because I'm just telling you, if you watch the case or what's transpiring in the court, you can't watch it, but follow it.

They're just basically arguing, hey, man, this guy is a pervert and him and his girlfriend did some really perverted things.

They're not proving a serious criminal case.

And so now I have to go, well, what was the motive?

What was the big raid?

They raided this guy like he was Pablo Escobar.

I know.

And now they're in court arguing that he's Hugh Hefner.

No,

that's not what we were promised.

That's not what you don't do a raid like that.

Just, oh, this guy's Hugh Hefner.

He's hosting sex parties at his house.

They raided him like it was Escobar.

And

right now, four or five days in, you know,

maybe Diddy's Bill Cosby, but that's it.

I have to tell you, I think I'm more disgusted by your answer, if it's true, if it's right.

than I am by Diddy and what he was doing, what I've heard in testimony, which is disgusting and despicable.

But I think I'm more disturbed by

the answer of

this, you know, I own these people, you don't own these people.

My gosh, you want to talk about a plantation?

It's the only thing that makes sense to me at this point.

Diddy is, again, he's some talentless rapper,

you know, from a very questionable background and

should never, again, when you build a system as corrupt as the globalists have,

very corrupt people rise to power.

Yes.

And people that shouldn't have power end up with power.

And Diddy is potentially one of those people.

And somewhere it's like, they've created Frankenstein.

Well, how do you kill Frankenstein?

This is how you do it.

Wow.

And when is this trial, when is this trial supposed to end?

How much longer?

I think it's supposed to be like six weeks of, and again, there's a part of me that thinks like this is a distraction.

This is sensational and just intended to, hey, go look over here, Diddy and baby oil and look at all these sensational sex stories.

But there's no real meat here.

There's no substance here.

And, you know,

is rap music in that industry nihilistic and perverted and sexually degenerate?

Yes, we knew all that.

We don't need a trial to prove that.

And you can't go to jail for that.

No.

No.

Well, you can.

Well, yeah, I mean, you can if it gets so perverted and you're slavery in.

No, no, no.

What I mean by that is we've seen juries so repulsed by the defendant that it just doesn't matter what the government's arguing or whatever.

And that may, he may go to jail just for being a horrible, awful person, and no one's going to feel sorry for him if that's the case.

But in terms of some sex trafficker, again,

I just don't see it at this point.

So this goes to what, you know, because my question has been, why are you not going after anyone else but Diddy?

Because he couldn't have done all of this by himself.

So why is he the guy?

And it's the same story as

Epstein.

They're only talking about him and, you know, Maxwell.

That's it.

Nobody else.

Haven't heard even the name of anybody else.

Let me differentiate, from my perspective, the difference between Epstein and Diddy.

And based on what's been argued in court,

We're not even seeing them suggest that Diddy was doing this with underage people so far.

And, you know, the Epstein part is about underage and it's child sex trafficking and all that.

We haven't even gotten there with Diddy.

We've been, we've spent the first four or five days talking about the sexcapades of him and his girlfriend, and they've tried to paint her as a victim, but she looked like a willing participant so far in court.

But

this is why this is disturbing me.

Because if what was said about these parties,

it does

lead to...

It involves children.

It involves children.

It involves

drugs that people pass out and then there's rape and everything else.

And on top of that, probably poor language, is

the idea that they're both Diddy and Epstein are both operatives for some political or governmental

entity or group of people that are trying to control people and keep them in play.

Yeah, and James Coney's daughter, who's on the prosecution team, she's not going to argue that.

They're not going to go in, or maybe later in the trial, because Diddy certainly was someone that was out there

promoting the Democratic Party, vote or die.

He was certainly a political operative for the Democratic Party.

So far, and even in opening statements or whatever, based off my understanding, none of that's being argued.

That his

political involvement, his political engagement, none of that's being put on the table.

They're keeping this in a very safe space of, hey, look at how sexually perverted Diddy and his girlfriend were.

I hate this.

I absolutely hate this.

Because if we don't clean this kind of stuff up, we have no chance of survival.

you know is it's like it's like the uh stuff that was happening with the muslim uh pedophile rings over in england where everybody knew what was going on and i'm not saying we know over here what's going on but over there it just became so obvious and the the government was just covering it up for it because because it served their purposes whatever those purposes might have been then you you can't have a civilization you can't have a society that is is cohesive at all if these kinds of things are just not taken care of.

If special favors are paid to both sides and just make it go away,

you don't have a real system of government.

I'm going to go a step further, Glenn, or just from my perspective, you can't have a society that allows the form of music that Diddy was involved in, that promotes sexual degeneracy and violence and drug use

if that is going to be at the center of American music culture, if that's going to be promoted in Super Bowl halftime shows and Diddy is going to be a powerful figure in politics and in culture, you can't have a society that properly functions.

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Jason Whitlock is with us.

So

what is your solution to that?

We have to

reapply obscenity laws and quit allowing porn and this type of degeneracy to be protected under allegedly free speech.

And,

you know, there was a long time in America where, you know, we had obscenity laws that there were things you couldn't do and say on public airways and in movies and things like that.

And now all of a sudden, everything is under free speech.

And

I just don't, you know, the key were

the key there was, not in movies, but you just said it, public airwaves.

I mean, I remember 1982, I'm working on the morning show at WPGC in Washington, D.C.

I'm 18 years old.

The guy across the street is Howard Stern.

He is just making his big impact in Washington, D.C.

And I said on the air one time, I'm 18 years old, and I said the word, I said, I know it really pisses me off.

I wish I would have saved this letter because I'd have it framed today.

It was a full-page memo from the program director saying, I don't know who you think you are, and I don't think you know where you work, but this is the nation's capital and we do not use language like quotation mark, pissed on the air.

That's how far we've come because now that's nothing.

That's nothing.

I don't know how you reverse that.

I mean,

if you believe in freedom, it really should be reversed

internally by the people.

And I don't know how to make that happen other than you got to find God, people.

We're going to, there was a time when we had this, and in the name of freedom, we've now allowed all types of degeneracy and obscenity to go mainstream.

Right.

And it was in the name of freedom because you have no civilization if you're just shooting to the bottom of the barrel.

So it was done in the name of freedom as well, and it did keep us free.

There you go.

And look,

where I go with it to me is like, well, let's protect the freedom and the innocence of children.

Rather than just Hugh Hessner's freedom or Diddy's freedom or whoever runs Pornhub's freedom.

I want to protect the freedom and innocence of children.

And it's so obvious the consequence of this pornographic, degenerate freedom that we've allowed.

But how do you compromise the innocence and the freedom of young people?

We've mainstreamed a nihilistic mindset and a perverted, degenerate mindset that is harming the freedom and innocence of children.

That is something I could get behind and saying, you know, there's rules for children and what you expose children to.

I'm completely with that.

However, how are you going to do that when you've got drag shows in kindergartens?

And again, it's still slippery slope.

We got there because we moved away from obscenity laws and we said we can't infringe on anyone's freedom to be as degenerate, as perverted as they want to be.

You know, that's un-American.

You know,

we're going to have to penalize.

Again, I don't understand.

If you're in the rap music industry and putting out this type of,

you should be taxed at a different rate.

There should be different laws and rules.

You go into, for me in the sports world, you go into any basketball arena anywhere, and I'm talking about high school level, TV level.

They pump in this hip-hop music with all this profanity.

As your children are playing basketball,

it's we got to put a stop to it.

It is the slippery slope.

Music and this form of art has so much influence over your heart and mind and over the culture.

Jason,

we got much to say.

Enough is enough.

I got to cut you off.

Thank you.

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Well,

I was a U.S.

history teacher and also world history teacher at the high school level at big public schools in Texas.

And

at the height of

Gwen Beck with the Fox News,

that was kind of the height of my,

I would say, I mean, I was kind of a

painting me.

I'm with you.

I'm with you.

I'm still with you.

I think I was a propaganda artist and I didn't even know it.

And,

you know, you were kind of my, you were kind of my foil and

my number one enemy.

And so

when it was time to

get get on the plane and go meet Glenn Beck and the Glenn Beck show,

it was a very surreal experience for me.

Right, because you have changed.

What woke you up?

You know, having a front row seat to it, and I didn't have

a

one big moment.

It was kind of like Spidey Senses

that started

really in about 2011

because I had gone through my teacher training in 2008 and just within the three years

things really started to shift fast.

And I was in the types of schools where we had a lot of outside experts coming in to try to like, you know, save the world and

fix the system.

And

as early as 2011, they were bringing in these pilot programs from fancy universities that had us talking about stuff

in the classroom that even me being at that time a very liberal, liberal

proponent of everything against what you were saying,

it didn't feel right.

And so it's like, and my unique experience there, which relates to kind of what we're going to talk about today, I hope, is that,

you know,

I'm a white guy and I'm in front of classrooms primarily of Hispanic and black children.

And I'm teaching U.S.

history and

I'm kind of being

nudged is a nice way to put it to

preach victimhood.

And it just didn't feel, it didn't feel right.

And

I didn't do it.

And

I framed my history history lessons as

a story of America as a story of survival, America as a story of achievement.

And that included everybody in this country, regardless of ethnicity or skin color.

Well, it was great to work with you on Monday.

I was cutting some stuff that

I and Prager, you are working on for history, and you were at the museum.

And you were just, you were a great partner to work with.

Keeping me honest, keeping it right on track, you're a great partner.

But you gave me as a gift one of your books, and there are now seven books in the series.

They're Trailblazers of America.

I had not heard of this kid series, but I've been reading it.

It is, it's fantastic.

Tell everybody what it is.

Yeah, thank you so much.

It's it's a

it's a seven-part bio series, and you know, the intro music that you had for me was perfect with that Western twang

because that's kind of the vibe of our of our Trailblazer series.

And we have,

you can buy them individually, seven stories, or you can get them in a full compilation.

But it's from Daniel Boone all the way to Bass Reeves with six other stories in between that kind of chronologically tell the story of America's growth and expansion westward.

And so from

Boone to Davy Crockett to Lewis and Clark to Johnny Appleseed to John C.

Fremont to John Sutter and then Bass Reeves, we're able to

kind of take our readers on a trip that geographically covers the country, but then also chronologically covers the country.

and does so in a way that is pretty exciting.

Yeah.

And I mean, I think I hugged you when you said Bass Reeves was in the book.

Because Bass Reeves, I mean, some people say it's, this is all just legend.

Nobody knows.

And I don't think it's true.

But

some people say that Bass Reeves is

the inspiration for the Lone Ranger.

And when I found Bass Reeves, because I was doing, you know, I was painting a painting of the Lone Ranger and I wanted to learn more about it.

And I saw this name, Bass Reeves, is possible.

And I started looking it up.

And And I'm like, how did I not own this guy?

This guy is fantastic.

And he was a U.S.

Marshal.

And tell his story a little bit.

Well, so he was born into slavery, and

he was owned by a well-to-do family in East Texas.

And when

the Civil War broke out,

he was brought along with

the young men of that family.

And interesting of his upbringing, which is so condemning of the institution of slavery, is that his, like the family that owned him, permitted him

to use firearms, but they didn't permit him to learn how to read, which says a lot about the importance of education.

Yeah, sure does.

But in that childhood where he was brought up with guns, he became an expert marksman.

And

always having a

an American spirit inside of him, I would say, that when given the opportunity to break free from slavery, he did so and did so on the way to fighting in the Civil War.

And then he escaped into

the bandit lands of the Indian Territory.

And while he was there, we don't, I mean, he was literally off the grid.

And so his time in the Indian territory is legendary, but he must have picked up or at least intensified his skills because when the Civil War ended and he then, you know, and slavery was abolished and he was allowed to permitted to

join American society, he did so as a U.S.

Marshal and racked up

statistics that were just like unheard of.

Yeah, he was the guy who always got his man, always got his man.

No matter how long it would take, if he was on your trail, you were going to jail or die we're talking like like hundreds of dudes that he went after and was successful in getting and an incredible man of integrity one of the people that he actually had to bring to justice was his own son thank you for knowing and and so um you know

we at craiger you kids aim to teach what isn't being taught and

You know, you said you didn't know that much about Bast Draves.

I didn't even know who the guy was.

And I'm a U.S.

history teacher.

And so one of the cool things about this series is kind of uncovering those old gems that has kind of been forgotten about.

And it's, I mean, if you're in California, the sixth story is John Sutter,

who was the owner of a mill where gold was discovered, I believe, in California.

And this guy,

you know, when you learn about the

rush to California, you see the kind of American that we now say just doesn't exist.

Now we're like, oh, I don't know, that seems really hard.

If you want to be an American,

you should read John Sutter

because it's optimistic and yet stubborn.

And it's just, we're going to get it.

We're going to do what we know we can do.

Correct?

Oh, most definitely.

And

we strategically picked John Sutter because we wanted to have an immigrant tale

as part of the series.

And he was born in Switzerland and made his way to America as a young man.

And

our theme of our John Sutter book is pretty much failure because that guy dreamed big and fell on his face over and over again, but had the gumption and had, again, that American spirit to get up and try again.

So the name of the book, and if you have kids, you have grandkids, you are no homeschoolers, you need to get Trailblazers of America.

Trailblazers of America.

It's from Prager U, and Justin Kaitis, the author of it.

He's this guy I'm talking to.

Can you only get it at PragerU or where can you get it?

So

you can go to our website, but then that links you to Amazon.

So you can go directly to Amazon and get it as well.

And

I agree with everything you said about getting it for the kids, but even if you don't have kids, you can make

a heck of a coffee table book, too.

Yeah.

Most Americans don't know these stories.

I know these stories, and that's why I'm saying it for kids.

I shouldn't have said that.

Most Americans do not know these stories, and they need to.

They need to.

Because you'll be able to, it just, it helps you frame

where we are, what is true, what we're capable of, and where we need to go.

Most definitely, sir.

It was great to meet you, Justin, and thank you for sharing with me

your Glen hating years.

I had them too, so don't worry about it.

You're not alone.

From foe to friend, sir.

Yeah, that's right.

Thank you, Justin.

I appreciate it.

Justin Kite,

it is PragerU.com.

Also, you can get it online at Amazon.com.

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Welcome to the Lenbeck program.

Glad you're here.

Thanks.

I've been actually here the first couple hours, but

I appreciate it.

Try to erase that from my mind, but honestly.

So, you know how many days, as of yesterday, you know how many days it's been since 9-11?

I did see this and everyone's talking about it.

8,647, 8647.

I'm just saying that's what he was saying.

That's what he all.

That's what he was saying.

I know there's a political message somewhere in there.

Yeah,

it was that, yeah.

What are the odds that yesterday was 8647 when he posted that?

I mean, the odds are 100% it was that many days to a day.

What does the 9-11 have to do with this?

Well, he was in the FBI and he just was like, it's a political message.

Is that really?

We got to remember 9-11, but we got to remember it cryptically in clamshells.

Is he really going to argue that?

No.

No, I don't think so.

One interesting thing about this now, Glenn, is that...

In case you don't know what we're talking about, James Comey posted a picture in shells on a beach, 8647, which means 86 the president.

Gangsters would say that means kill him.

You know, if you're a soda jerk from the 1940s, that means, you know,

hold it back, cancel that order.

Okay.

So 8647, 47 being the president.

I have some news for you, Glenn.

Okay.

It's sad.

It's tragic.

Oh, no.

James Comey has 86 his Instagram account.

No.

No.

Now, you would think that James Comey would have not had one.

Right.

Isn't that quite obviously the right move for a former FBI director?

Yes.

Never post anything.

Certainly, if you're going to have one, it should be private.

You know what I mean?

Like, maybe you want to post your family pictures to your family.

Okay, of course.

I don't know why people enjoy doing that, frankly.

I'm still in, you know, I don't know, 1990 or something on that one, unlike my wife, certainly.

I don't know.

I like the collaboration.

I like people when they respond back and they,

you know,

I like some of this.

I think there's a business where it's very important and I have to do it.

But like, I don't know that I would necessarily have a.

I wouldn't do it if I wasn't in this job.

I would do it.

I would do it with my family.

Maybe like a personal kind of like, yeah, like even posting things.

Like I like I, you know, I'll, you know, like I take pictures and I send, I typically will just like send them to my wife if I think they're a good picture of the kid.

It's like, you know, but I mean, you can easily just as well do that, I guess, on a social media account that's private.

But this is, again, attention seeking.

And, you know, we're in a business where we need people to listen to the show, want people to listen to the show, want people to be interested in what we do.

It's part of our business.

If you're the former FBI director, unless you think of yourself as a celebrity that writes big books,

then I guess you do need an Instagram logo.

Oh, he doesn't look at himself like that at all.

You'd You'd think there'd be no need for that as a former FBI director, but again, he sees himself as an MSNBC personality, which is just pathetic.

Like, I, you know, he is, he really is pathetic.

And now he has no Instagram account.

Pretty smart.

That's the first smart thing he's done in a long time.

A little late on that one, James.

I have to tell you, you said earlier today, and I agree 100%.

If I'm his attorney, I saw that last night and I went, oh,

honey,

honey, wherever you want to go in the world and vacation, we're going to be able to afford it.

There's not going to be a lot of people go, you know, like after

Trump won in the first time, he's like, ah, we're not going to go after Hillary.

And that is not going to be his vibe.

No.

No.

And it shouldn't be.

It shouldn't be.

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Hello, America.

Good friend and a guy who has just joined the Blaze.

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I think his first episode is about casting out a demon.

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can cast out demons.

We're going to talk to him a little bit about that.

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I love the title.

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All right, so So

apparently there's this

football team,

big football team, and this guy named Bill Burgess was a coach and a player there for a long time.

I don't know.

I know Rick from Rick and Bubba, previously with Rick and Bubba, is here.

And this is his dad.

So try to...

Try to just say, okay,

let's just pretend we know who his dad is.

Rick, welcome to the program.

Oh, my goodness.

Hearing you two talk about football is agonizing.

What are you talking about?

Him, Mike.

He knows that.

He's just been dragged into this thing with me.

Stu?

I will tell you, if I was going to ask about a team, I'm going to ask Stu over you, Glenn.

I would hope so.

Am I going to Stu, though, if I have other options?

No, you have to.

Okay, welcome.

Tell me about your dad.

So, you guys are so kind to have me on.

Of course, you know, we, as you said, spent 31 years doing the Rick and Bubba show, and now this year started the Rick Burgess Show.

We're five months in, as you said, got the new podcast on Blaze TV, still working with you guys.

So this has been something that I have been thinking about for a while, about writing a book about my dad,

iconic figure.

And it's not just a football book or anything like that.

It's really about the men.

And I know you guys have talked about it so many times.

They're a dying breed, and we desperately desperately need them back.

So in order to mold the next generation, we need to be able to look to the model.

And dad was an incredible leader, influencer, wonderful father.

You know, isn't that a nice change of pace for a man to actually say his father was great?

But he was one of a kind, a true original.

You know how we throw around that phrase a lot, hey, they broke the mold on that one.

And then you're thinking, did they really?

In this case, I can tell you, especially

the two of you who who've never met him, there is no one on this planet that I've ever met quite like Bill Burgess.

And, you know, he was so humble that I knew I couldn't do the book until it was the right time.

And unfortunately, he passed away in December of 2023, battled Alzheimer's in the final years of his life.

And when he passed, I said, you know what, now's the time to give him, you know, the recognition that he would have never wanted but deserved and try to use him to help help influence not just men.

You know, my wife read it because she comes across like this is a dude book, and it certainly is beneficial for men.

And you know that I have a real heart for men's ministry, and you guys have been kind enough to let me talk about that in the past.

But this is actually a book for anyone.

I remember my wife read it, and I came home, and she's a real writer, so I was nervous about her assessment.

And she said, you know what?

I knew your dad for 30 years, but after reading this book, I understand you better.

And I also,

I was taught two things by your dad in this book that I need to apply to my life today.

So

it's got a lot of comedy in it.

It's got a lot of seriousness in it.

You know, you'll laugh, you'll cry.

You've heard that before.

I always say this.

If my dad was coaching football today, he would be put in jail.

So if anybody doesn't know who his dad was, American football coach, he was head coach at Jacksonville State University, I believe.

Also played for Auburn.

Correct.

Yeah, and in the Hall of Fame.

So tell me,

what do you get?

What do we learn from your father that we should know?

Well, you think about the title.

I could tell you and Stu both had a reaction to the title, and I knew that would be the case.

It really is an intriguing and provocative title.

Men Don't Run in the Rain.

I can't tell you how many people are like, man, as soon as I saw that, I was like, what?

And I opened up the book telling you about me being a kid, and

I kept noticing that anytime it would rain that if my dad was outside he would never change his walk he would walk in the rain never scurrying never you know never frantic and and and I was little so I never questioned him about it well I got about 13 14 years old and I was at school because he was also coached high school football before he coached college and it's where I went to school.

A lot of you may not know this, but I'm actually an Oxford graduate.

I'm not trying to get all arrogant.

Of course, that's Oxford High School.

It's true.

It's absolutely true.

So it's in between Atlanta and Birmingham.

If you're ever in the deep south, where I grew up is where you stop and go to the bathroom, if you were going to either one of those cities.

Right.

So anyway, we...

I was outside waiting to ride home with him because I wasn't old enough to drive yet, but I was already playing junior high football, and he was the athletic director and head coach of the varsity.

So he comes out.

Well, one of those classic Alabama thunderstorms in the heat of summer start.

Well, I go to run to his truck,

and he takes his forearm and he stops me.

And I looked at him.

He said, men don't run in the rain.

And at the time, I was like, what?

He said, men, we don't run in the rain.

We walk to the truck.

And I started thinking, what in the world did he mean by that?

But over time, I understood it wasn't about,

you know, don't look stupid or whatever.

It was like men should be steady men should be fearless and if you're going to be frantic about the rain what about in life when you face something that truly is difficult how will you ever he was already looking ahead how are you ever going to stand in and and and have a headship and leadership in your family how are you going to deal with difficulties when they come your way if you think rain is difficult and my dad's perfect vision of a man and his family is that in the pouring rain his wife would be put in the car dry, his kids would be put in the back seat dry, and then he would sit at the steering wheel soaking wet.

You know,

in looking through this,

I don't know if I taught my kids anything that profound at all.

But

your dad said so many things to you that

are so important.

You know, one of the things that he said on

just remaining humble is nobody cares what you did last year.

And here's a guy who, you know, no, they care about what you did last year.

You're in the hall of fame, right?

Yeah.

His humility was incredible.

And, you know, he also, since he coached such a team sport, he was infuriated about individual awards.

We literally had to tell him, Dad, you're accepting this award on behalf of all the coaches, all the teams.

He's like, no, no individual wins a football game.

No individual has a successful football program.

And he always had that attitude.

But what he meant by that was, you know, and he taught me that lesson.

He said, you can't spend the rest of your life continually tell stories about what you did last year.

What are you going to do this year to make it count?

And you can't drag last year.

You know, he taught me that lesson, as you guys may have seen in the book, because I had started on varsity as a sophomore, which that drove him crazy.

But my position coach actually gave me that.

And so when I came back the next year as a junior, I thought, well, I'm a starter.

And I wasn't even doing anything.

I don't think it was that big a deal.

But he stopped practice day one.

He said, hey, get out, get on the sideline.

Let's get somebody in here who wants to play.

And I was over there going, what is he even talking about?

And I'm over there getting a drink of water or whatever.

And he walks over and he says, hey, let me just tell you about this.

Nobody cares what you did last year.

It has no impact on what we're doing preparing this team.

And I thought, okay, he's teaching a football lesson, but he's teaching much more than that.

We all know the men and women that keep telling that same story about what they did 25 years ago, but what have you done today?

So did your dad,

I mean,

you know, kids generally don't take that stuff well when you're saying it to them.

You know what I mean?

They're like, you know, they out, my dad is so frustrating.

Did you take it that way or

did you understand the lessons when he was giving them?

And was he just a hard ass all the time?

No, no, he really wasn't.

Every player that ever played for him will tell you this.

He was hard, but he was fair.

And it was that fair side that bought

what you're thinking about.

Why you didn't.

Now, there were days you got frustrated with him, of course, but did I understand the depth of the lessons when they were coming?

Not all of them.

But let me tell you why I was willing to listen, and he was a great leader.

And this is the biggest part.

And you just said it.

Please do not picture my dad being the great Santini.

It was nothing like that.

He was hard.

He was no nonsense.

It was his way or no way if he was in leadership.

But he also would come home and leave all of that at the office.

At home, he had a gregarious laugh that would fill up an entire house.

He never took us out in the yard and said, we're going to run through some drills today, boys.

Nothing like that.

When I told him I wanted to play football, he said, why?

When I was in a little league, he said, if you want to play because you want to, don't play because you think I I want you to.

And he didn't coach us in little league.

He didn't take us out in the yard, like I said, to make us run.

When he came home, he was dad, and he was fun, and he was

also really, our mom was probably more of the heavy in the house.

Now, look, when dad was called in, that was the end of the foolishness, okay?

But mom kind of handled the daily outbreaks.

Dad was only brought in for

the heavy stuff.

And I think the thing that I could say that I love the most about him is that we always felt safe.

Why do you think this is important now?

I think we're missing this.

I think there is,

you know, my mother is a powerful woman.

She's still alive today, and she certainly was not inferior to him in any way, but our house had structure.

And the man was the head of the house and had a headship and a leadership, and the mom, his total equal.

They were equal, but they were beautifully distinct.

And that's how God made the family and we're turning that upside down.

And we're taking men like my dad and instead of celebrating them, we're actually criticizing them and calling that toxic masculinity when it's not.

Now there is a form of toxic masculinity, no doubt about that.

But men like my dad, that's not it.

And we're letting that being lumped in because he was a leader, because he was an influencer, because he believed believed you needed to be tough, because he believed you needed to stand in the gap, because he believed you needed to be steady, but he believed you didn't need to make excuses.

He believed you didn't worry about things like rain that would take you off the main goal of where you're going.

He was actually

invaluable.

And there was a time when men like him just blended into society.

They weren't even considered to be a big deal.

Right.

But we're losing them, and we've got to turn that around.

What, I mean, how much would your father stick out now?

Oh,

Like I said, if he was coaching, they would want to put him in jail.

I can't, you know, and you see these, the thing that's missed, especially these young males, they crave a man like my dad.

And we have males that think that they should be babied and spoiled and given whatever they want.

And that's the way to, you know,

that's no way to lead.

I tell you, there are men everywhere we go.

Can you imagine this, Glenn and Stu?

I can be going through an airport and somebody will see my kids and they'll see me and they'll say are you bill burgess's son and are these his grandchildren and when i say yes i can't tell you the number of times with tears in their eyes they'll say your daddy saved my life your daddy was the daddy i didn't have if it wasn't for your daddy i'd be in jail and we're missing those guys

you know it's amazing because i have always found women who just have self-confidence they know who they are they're comfortable in their own skin um and they just they just walk differently I find those women to be incredibly attractive and beautiful.

And, you know, you see all these men who are

becoming almost women in their attitude.

I can't imagine women find that attractive.

They find a man who knows who he is, you know,

and knows the role of a man.

I would imagine that women feel the same way about that's what's attractive is a man who's a man and not not not boastful not coming in and you know let me show you how it's done not none none of that just a quiet humble man

well I will tell you you're exactly right and I and we see this a lot during the men's ministry and I my mom will tell you this I'm married to the kind of woman you're talking about I'm sure you guys are too yeah we are but but here's the thing

what we're exhausting them Because we're making them do our job and their job.

And that's what's missing.

When we went out and started reaching and discipling men with the manchurch.com which you guys have been kind enough to let me talk about and when we finally get men to take the proper role in the home the biggest fans of all this are women to your point Glenn they're saying I never wanted to have headship in the home.

I never wanted to usurp my husband.

I knew we were equal.

I'm confident in myself.

I wanted to do my job, but I wanted him to do his.

I didn't want to do my job and his.

I'm not trying to, you know, be some woman who is under, like I say, undermining my husband.

My husband won't do it, and I've been stuck with it.

And we're frustrating women.

So, yes, when they see a man that takes his proper place, you better believe it's attractive.

The name of the book is Men Don't Run in the Rain is by Rick Burgess.

If you'll hang on just a second, I've only got a couple of minutes, but I got to take a quick break.

I want to talk to you about your new show on the Blaze because I saw the first episode, and

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So, Rick, I only have two minutes, but I want to make sure that we hit

your show's Strange Encounters.

Oh, how about that?

You know, when I was first approached about this, I said, let me tell you what I'm not going to do.

I'm not doing a show about Bigfoot.

I'm not doing one about space aliens.

I'm not doing one about ghosts and monsters.

Because I know that's real trendy and popular and it gets a lot of views and all that.

I said, now if y'all want me to do a podcast on spiritual warfare, the real supernatural, which is happening all around us, angels and demons, I'm happy to do it.

Because I think there's a huge confusion involving that.

And most of the things that we call monsters and space aliens and ghosts, they're nothing but demons in the spiritual realm.

The Word of God tells me all I need to know about the supernatural.

I really don't need need those other things because if we knew what was going on around us, and the problem is when we're not educated on this, that battle is happening whether we want to be part of it or not.

But I fear that even the Western church, many times we're sending people into a battle that we haven't prepared them to fight.

And the response for the first episode has been

one minute.

Tell me

explain it.

First episode.

First episode is I lay out what the Bible says and doesn't say about monsters and angels and demons.

And then the second episode, which is out right, well, it's for Blaze subscribers, it'll be out tonight, and then it'll be out this weekend.

We actually talked to a man who fought a demon that was attacking his child, and we tell you how to do that as well.

And I have, I mean, I have experienced it.

I've experienced it in my own home where

there is, you raise your hand to the square, and in the name of Jesus Christ, depart.

And it is, it's real.

We are really under spiritual warfare right now, and too many people just dismiss it.

Just dismiss it.

It's all around us and explains so many things, but you got to know what you're dealing with.

And I hope we can help you do that.

Thank you, Rick.

I appreciate it.

God bless you.

Thank you, Glenn.

So excited.

Thank you.

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Also, the Rick Burgess Show.

You'll see Strange Encounters.

You can see both episodes tonight.

The second one drops.

It's a brand new Blaze TV podcast.

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Neil McDonough is with us.

You know him because he's probably one of the most fabulous

villains ever on television, I think.

But he's also Band of Brothers, My Inori Report, Walking Tall, Yellowstone Suit, Star Trek First Contact.

You were in Star Trek First Contact?

Yeah, I was.

I flew the ship in that bad boy.

That was awesome.

Right.

Incredible Hulk, Fidelity, and Cadillac.

And now his latest feature is The Last Rodeo.

You star in it, but you wrote and produced it as well.

That's right.

And you play a guy who is...

the oldest contestant in a rodeo, but it's not, it's, I mean,

yes, it's a lot of rodeo, but it also is about family and what's important and the courage it takes to put your family back together.

That's right.

Yeah, it's, you know, I was always searching for the idea of, you know, being an athlete, trying to find, okay, who's the oldest rookie of the year?

Who's the oldest this and that?

And I wasn't finding anything.

And then one day I was doing a Western called The Warrant, and I was driving home, and when I'm away from Revere and the kids, I get pretty melancholy, sad, depressed, whatever.

Yeah, exactly.

So I was driving home, and I had to pull over to the side of the road because I got gut punched by this thought.

What would ever happen to me if something happened to my wife, Revee?

And then I'm looking out and I saw some horses out there and then I know God planted this idea in my skull because I didn't know a whole lot about bull riding.

I've been riding horses my whole life.

Of course I knew what PBR was.

But the idea was write a movie about Rocky on a bull for a grandfather that has to save his grandson because he has a brain tumor, the same thing that killed his wife.

Jeez, where did that happen?

That's divine inspiration.

And then I, on the side of the road, for about two hours, I voice dictated the whole script into my phone.

Wow.

And I sent it off to my writing partner, Derek Presley, the next day.

And we came up with with the first draft within a week.

And then Rave and I went out and raised the financing the next week.

And Angel jumped on board.

And the amazing, amazing Angel Studios that I adore.

And this is our third film with those guys.

And, you know, you meet being a man of the LDS faith.

I love those guys.

I love what they stand for.

I love the family environment, the family atmosphere.

What I really like about this is

they're not LDS films.

No, they're films.

Yeah, they're films and they're TV and everything else, but they're just,

it doesn't matter.

Are you a person of faith?

Do you want to make the world a better place?

Bingo.

Can we sort all of that stuff out later?

Let's just do that first.

Right.

You know what I mean?

I'm Catholic, right?

So

the films that Rive and I are making at the McDonough Company through Angel aren't just for Christians.

They're for Christians.

They're for Muslims.

They're for Jews.

They're agnostics.

They're for Buddhists.

It's basically, we want to make films that entertain people, get them at the edge of their seats, but actually find out about family and about faith.

And at the end of it, feel great about being in this film.

But I might call you out a little bit and think, you know what, I can be a little bit better of a dad.

I can't be a better of a daughter or a wife or co-worker or whatever.

And it's a faith, and that's what America was really built upon, wasn't it?

You know, when you mentioned God four times in the Declaration of Independence, you know, in our bill, it says, in God we trust.

I think Hollywood kind of veered away from talking about God and talking about faith and talking about family.

And now we're building films, especially the last rodeo, where it's it's front and center.

You get a fractured family.

What are you going to do to protect it?

Isn't it amazing how Hollywood,

we used to, those of us who

wanted cleaner films, faith films, et cetera, et cetera, we'd always look at our films and we go,

can we stop making those?

Stop preaching to people.

Just tell a great story.

And now...

The people who figured that out, Hollywood, that's all they're doing is preaching to us.

And they're just going down down into the ground.

Well, they're preaching a message that generally doesn't really coincide with what core American values are.

Right.

So to write films about the heartland of America and for the heartland of America, which Hollywood hasn't done for such a long time, is...

They don't know it.

And we've screened this film now for four or five different cities,

predominantly in the Midwest or in the heartland of America.

They're going bonkers for it.

Yeah, I'm watching it this weekend.

It's just, I'm so proud of it.

But if you love films like this, if you love films where you can take the whole family, you don't have to cover your eyes or ears for some kids and certain scenes,

but actually great films that talk about family values.

You got to support this film because it tells Hollywood enough of the really dark stuff that they've been putting out there.

It's time to get back to American Dallas.

You say that you didn't know much about bull riding.

How did you know about PBR and not much about bull riding?

Well, you know about, you see it on ESPN, and PBR has blown up in the last few years.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It blew up so much that

Rave and I are now part owners of the Austin Gamblers rodeo.

Yeah, yeah.

That's great.

You know, and it's, there's something about the rodeo that unlike most sporting events where half of the people in the audience hate the other half, or they're screaming, you stink, you're a bum.

That never happens at a PBR event.

It starts with a prayer, first of all.

And the whole time, everyone in the audience, and it's families, which is what I love so much, everyone's cheering for each writer to hit those eight seconds because it's so stinking exciting to watch.

And it's so hard.

It's impossible.

You know, when you look at the business.

eight seconds, I know.

And those are the longest eight seconds of your life watching those guys.

I mean, it is, it's, it's amazing.

I went with a friend of mine who is Scottish.

I mean, real Scottish.

And he was also,

what was the special forces he was in?

He was in the elite of the elite of the elite.

And in the only, in the only

force in England that didn't have to stand for the queen because she said to his group, you've done enough for uh Great Britain.

You don't need to stand.

I mean,

wow.

So he was a man's man.

And I brought him up to the ranch and he had never seen rodeo before.

And he's like, this is going to be stupid.

This isn't a sport.

Literally, the first eight seconds, he looked at me and he said, good.

God, how did I not know about this?

It's the greatest sport.

It is amazing.

You get 32 rides a night.

You get those eight second feeling every single time.

And a guy falls off.

There's the other thing.

The athletes, if a dude falls off their horse or off their bull, they're there to pick him up and say, it's all right, you get him next time.

Or if a guy gets the eight seconds, they're high five and say, congratulations, I'm going to get you.

It's that healthy competition that PBR has that I love so much.

And it's all about family.

Family first, me second, God first, me second, the things that...

we live by in our house.

And those are the films that we write.

And I'm so blessed to be able to have Revere and all our kids be part of it.

They all had small parts in it but they all worked the stunt department.

They all worked craft service.

They would do certain things, be part of seeing what mom and dad do and they all want to be in the business and what a compliment that is.

How much of the bull were you on?

Unless it was in the chute, they wouldn't let me out in the big area.

Oh, I wouldn't.

But I begged.

But I'll tell you.

You would have done it?

Oh, and a heartbeat.

I'm a knucklehead.

So the amount of hours that, I can't even tell you how many hours I spent on a mechanical bull getting busted up.

When you fall off the mechanical bull, you know, especially when you're out in the dirt and there's no padding and you're just getting whooped time after time.

For months and months, we trained on mechanical bulls.

Oh, my gosh.

The problem is now,

if I go to, but I was also in the best shape of my life.

You know, I trained so hard and I worked out this great trainer, Scott St.

John, his company that now we're part of, Flip My Life.

These are things that I put into my body that made me even healthier and more ripped and prepared for getting my butt handed to me.

If you're not in good shape, that's because the story is about

the oldest writer.

And

I don't think I've ever seen an old writer.

If you're 30

on PBR, you're an old man.

If you're 35, you're like, what are you doing?

What is mentally wrong with you?

But for this, there was no choice.

10 years ago, his wife died of brain cancer.

He got drunk and rode a bull, broke his back, and his life has just been kind of awful ever since.

And it kind of went back to what happened to me years ago when I couldn't get a job because they thought I was this, when I refused to to do a kissing scene and they took everything away from me, my house, my cars, my swagger, my everything.

And then I kind of just drank myself silly for a couple of years because I couldn't get a job.

I couldn't provide for my family.

And I was just

pushing everyone away from me and just wallowing in my own self-pity.

And then one day I asked God, and I told you before, you know, why have you forgotten about me?

And as soon as those words came out of my mouth, I realized I was just making it about me.

And then the phone rang a minute later, and it was John Avnett, who directed The Last Rodeo, said, I I hear you going through some hard stuff.

How would you like to be the villain Unjustified?

And that was my shot back at the title.

And ever since then, I've worked my butt off to make sure that I'm giving glory to him and working as hard as I can.

But I don't want to ever let down the audience.

So I read some review somewhere and it said, they're taking advantage of this.

Strange fascination with the center of the country and the cowboy.

And I'm like, it's not as strange.

We're returning to our roots.

Exactly.

That's what America was built on.

The American idea of family and faith.

And we can do anything if we work together.

So

I'm so proud of this film.

Please go out and support it and tell Hollywood enough of the dark stuff.

And I've been guilty of being a part of the dark stuff.

As a villain, I have to provide for my family.

But now I've gotten to the point in my life that people are trusting Revere and I to come up with really good films.

And all the films we've made so far have turned to profit.

I don't know if...

I don't know if avoiding

the bad guys is a good idea either.

Oh, I love playing my bad guys.

Yeah, you are a really

fun bad guy.

Oh, they've got to be.

I get to infuse comedy into the most bizarre situation.

And, you know, on the set when we're doing the bad guys, you know, we're all just laughing because it's just so absurd the situations that I'm in.

But then when I play the heroes, it's hard to slough them off because then I'm actually playing myself and I'm dredging up all the stuff that's actually Neil McDonough.

So Joe Wainwright and Neil McDonough are very, very, very similar.

It's semi-autobiographical, what he went through and what I went through.

And it's pretty awesome to put it all out there.

When you brought up

your trouble in the past, in some ways this had to be hard.

Cathartic.

Hard.

It's humbling because I have the shot now to be John Wayne and be the guy who wins it in the end and gets to kiss the girl in the end.

And I finally have my first on-screen kiss and it's with none other than my amazing wife, Rive.

So to say we did it our way is kind of an understatement.

We went through the hardships of what it took to get here.

But now that we're here, we're so blessed.

We're going to keep on pumping out great movies for everybody.

Can we play a bit of the trailer real quick?

Do you remember everything that you put all of us through the last time you rode?

You will not get on that full.

Well, then what are we going to do about Cody?

I'm going to be okay, mom.

$750,000 for first place.

You got a better idea.

I'm all ears.

We've got some incredible news.

The Rodeo Legends are gonna compete for the first time in years.

Give me the green eyes!

Joe Wainwright.

Three-time world change.

Rides again.

This is gonna be big.

This ain't the senior circuit.

Good luck.

You're gonna need it.

Joe Wainwright competing at over 50 years shovel.

I'm grandfathering in, right?

You right about that granddad.

Oh!

His grandson's sick, and he's got to earn money.

That's why he's here.

You gotta focus, Joe.

Win my seat.

I only ask once.

That went well.

Yeah, very.

Be patient with her.

She loves you fiercely.

Can Joe Wainwright keep up?

I'm fine.

Of course you you are.

That's a genuine, true legend right there.

My father's all time.

Here we go.

Come on, Joe.

Get it.

Get it.

Get it.

Excellent.

That's awesome.

Yeah, awesome.

The last rodeo.

It comes out when?

Next week?

Memorial weekend.

Memorial Deekeeon.

May 23rd.

Well,

that's a big weekend.

We are David v.

Goliath.

Come on, peace.

You've got to support our film.

Get out there and buy some tickets.

May 23rd, the last rodeo.

You want to get tickets?

You can get them right now through angel, angel.com slash rodeo.

Angel.com slash rodeo.

Neil, always great to see you.

Thank you.

Thank you, bud.

Thank you.

God bless you.

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So we uh we've talked a lot about James Comey and uh some of the things that have been coming up during the show and there's some uh there's some new information.

James Comey, you know, his thing is,

uh, no, I just have found these uh shells on the beach like this.

I took a picture and I posted them on Instagram, and I knew they were something political, but I didn't know what really 8647.

You're the you're the head of the FBI, you know what, you know how mobs use 86,

um, but you know, whatever.

You're not going to be able to prove, and you're not going to be able to put him in jail.

You're just not.

At least convict.

You're not going to probably successfully convict him after it goes through the courts.

Like whether you can put him in jail over it,

I mean, who knows?

You can make his life miserable.

You can make his life miserable.

You know, as they tried to do with Donald Trump.

Actually, they were really trying to put him in prison.

But,

you know, the punishment.

The process is the punishment.

The process is the punishment.

And they really don't like him.

I don't know.

And Donald Trump doesn't like him, but the people around Donald Trump who are loyal to Trump really don't like him.

What does SCOTUS say about this in the history?

So FIRE is a good organization.

We've talked about it before, the free speech organization.

They talk about how in 1969, Robert Watts, a guy who was convicted of saying, if they ever make me carry a rifle, the first man I want to get in my sights is LBJ.

Okay, that's pretty clear.

Really clear, right?

Much clearer than

this situation with Comey.

SCOTUS reversed the conviction, holding Watts' First Amendment speech was protected, and it was political hyperbole, not a true threat.

Yes.

2023, SCOTUS, and so this is the current Supreme Court, decided that to convict a person of true threats, the government must prove that the defendant knew his speech would put another in fear of physical harm or consciously disregarded a substantial risk that it would be viewed as a threat of violence.

You can argue that.

You could argue that way.

I have a hard time proving it, but you could argue that way.

But with the precedent of that building on top of, hey, a direct threat to the president with a gun was already seen as hyperbole, you're gonna have a tough time getting a conviction or at least getting it through the courts.

That being said, that doesn't mean they're not going to make his life a little bit.

It just has to stop.

It just stops, yeah.

Yeah, be careful.

Right, just sensible.

Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

All right.

Have a safe weekend.

We'll see you Monday.

God bless.

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