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Gotta get James Comey at VD647 here in just a second.

If you don't know what that is, wait until you hear this.

Oh, my God.

This guy is

dope.

But anyway, we have another episode of Glenn and Stu Super Babies.

You know, I think

we've been taking this baby filter.

I don't know if you haven't seen the baby filter thing that is going around.

I absolutely love it.

I could actually watch this show all day long if we were babies.

I think we were better if we look like babies, quite honestly.

The show is clearly better.

It's clearly better.

It's better than infants.

Yeah, right.

And everything sounds so innocent.

Now, we were doing a bit a couple of days ago about

this.

Who was it that was in trouble?

Or do you remember the name of the guy?

Oh,

Brandon Miller.

Okay.

And so

he sends a text to one of his friends, and I don't know what it means.

Stu doesn't really know what it means.

And we're talking about it.

And then he explained it to me.

And it was good and it was informative.

But it takes on a whole new feeling if

we're babies talking about it.

Now, if you...

If you are watching The Blaze or you're watching us on, you Roku or wherever you're watching us, you'll enjoy this.

If it's radio, it's just going to sound like a radio bit, but go to my Instagram page and you'll see the babies.

But here's what we talked about now as babies.

So this is NBA player Brandon Miller.

He got a text from his friend this night, the night in question.

And he was texted this.

I need my joint.

RL.

Just got Da Fakin.

And I was interesting, how would would you interpret that particular defense?

Just got my joint.

No,

I need my joint.

Oh, need my joint.

RL

just got da fakin

Ralph Lauren.

Somebody is selling fake Ralph Lauren clothing.

He needs to get to his joint, his house, because he has some way to prove that that person is doing wrong.

You think it's a copyright infliction?

I think it's a copyright, a very large,

okay, against a very powerful company that should be doing it themselves.

But here's this hero going and saying, I got to get to my house.

I've got to get the things that will help Ralph Lauren with this copyright infringement.

Wow.

That's how I read it.

That's X.

See, I've never

received that now.

I haven't done this for almost 50 years.

That's true.

That's true.

Now, I don't think Brandon was from Mount Vernon.

So there may be a bit of a dialect difference

here.

Sure.

Apparently, what he was saying was

he needed his gun, which was his joint.

Okay.

Okay.

RL,

real life.

Real life.

So he needed a gun in real life.

It wasn't a fake gun or

a video game.

Even though finger guns are very dangerous.

No.

Yes.

You know, as you're watching this,

you know what makes this so amazing.

And so, I mean, it's wild that AI can do this now.

But what makes this so incredible is the eyes.

When you're looking in a baby's eyes, it's so innocent.

It's sincere.

It's sincere in everything.

And they're honestly trying to...

So when we're doing sarcasm, you know, it's Ralph Lauren, but you look at it as a baby, the baby's eyes are so sincere.

And you know what?

You miss.

It's something I, for the very first time,

I'm like,

that's what Christ means about come to me as a child

you we've lost the innocence we've lost the

you know no no baby is sarcastic this is just this I'm Lord do not listen to this because I'm condemning myself right now but

babies aren't sarcastic

you know they they just they're just not they're honest they're innocent And they're actually trying to figure things out.

And I think that's what we lose as people.

We start to to go, oh, I know exactly.

I know exactly what they're saying.

I know who they are.

I know what this means.

And it's the cynicism

that stops us or the arrogance that stops us from looking and saying, what else could this be?

What is this really?

Who are they really saying?

You know, because we've gone through life and we're like, that's not happening.

Nope, they weren't trying to, they weren't trying to help Ralph Lauren out.

It's fascinating.

It's fascinating.

Now, maybe we maybe we as babies can figure out

8647.

Now, I don't know, Stu, if you saw the James Comey tweets yesterday.

Yes, I did.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, and when you say his tweets, I mean, he took a picture of a shell formation that I found on a beach.

He was just walking by.

He was walking by and just walking by.

And he was like, shells in the sand.

Unbelievable.

I mean,

I'm sorry, but I'm not a baby with my little innocent eyes.

No.

There's no way.

I wish I was.

There's no way that that's that he just stumbled across that.

And he's like, oh, this is a cool seashell formation.

I don't really know what it means, but I knew it's political or something, so I'm going to put it up on Instagram.

Well, yeah, that's obviously not true.

I mean, I guess that's what he said.

Well, he kind of played it off that way.

I mean, he said, oh, look what I found.

Like, either he did it himself, which is the most likely.

No, but he came back.

I don't have.

Can somebody find the response?

Because he came back later and reposted on it.

Said, I just found that.

Yeah.

I posted earlier a picture of some shells I saw today on the beach walk, which I just assumed was a political message.

I didn't realize some folks associate those numbers with violence.

It never occurred to me, but I oppose violence of any kind.

So I took the post out.

So he's saying, I just stumbled across this.

I took a picture of it.

I mean,

maybe it was a natural formation.

I mean, he knows somebody did it, but I knew it had to have some political meaning.

Right.

Do you post something that you know has some political meaning without saying, does anybody know what this means?

I mean, even if you post it and say that.

It's a very bad idea, particularly if you happen to be the former head of the FBI.

FBI.

He doesn't know what 86 means.

So we should set that up.

You know, if I and I can I can walk you through this, Glenn, as a former proud veteran of chilies.

Right.

Where 86 means like when you don't want cheese on the burger that normally comes with cheese, you're like the burger 86 cheese.

Right.

Meaning you kill the cheese off the burger.

Now, also it could mean remove the cheese, right?

Like, I mean, it wasn't, I don't know that it's it has several it has several.

It's always violent.

It has several meanings.

It might be 86 the cheese, which means get rid of the cheese.

Yeah, okay.

But it also

has

roots back during the bootleg time.

Now, I've heard this story.

I looked for it.

I couldn't find it anywhere, but I heard this story from somebody who was, you know,

kind of a wandering historian of New York.

And I don't remember what place it is, but it had,

it was a bootleg club and during prohibition, and it was on a block and the basement went the entire city block.

Okay.

And so it was bootlegs and gambling underneath.

And the cops only knew about the front entrance.

And so they would say 86, it's the cops,

which meant

the address on the other side was 86.

So it meant use that door.

Get out.

Use that door.

Don't go through the front door.

86.

It's the cops.

Oh, interesting.

So I meant get out.

When the soda jerks,

and that takes on a whole different meaning today, doesn't it?

Soda jerks used to be the people in the drugstores that would pull the fountain down and they would, you know.

The soda fountains, yeah.

Yeah, and it would be called a soda jerk.

And they had their own linguo.

They had shoot one, draw one.

They had shoot one in red.

You should know this.

If you're going up to a soda jerk, you'd say shoot one in red.

What does that mean?

I don't know.

It means give me the Coke, but I want cherry Coke.

Shoot one in red.

Okay.

So they would pull the soda and they'd pour cherry soda in it or cherry flavor into it again.

So

echo was a repeat order, and 86 meant we're all out of it.

Okay.

Okay.

So it's get out, vacate, we're all out, or kill the cheese.

Right.

Okay.

So those are the meanings.

But if I'm on the beach and I say, and I see 86, 47, and I'm the former FBI director, I'm like, what does, I know what 47 means.

What does 86 mean?

47, of course, meaning Trump, 47th president of the United States.

Of course it does.

Now,

adding on to this, you're not only the FBI director, former, you are, of course, an opponent of the president.

It's been pretty clear over the years.

Also, I don't know if anyone noticed this, that president has almost been killed multiple times recently.

Right.

So there's an added thing where you got to be really careful around this particular person who took a bullet on stage and almost got killed at his golf club.

Right.

I mean,

look how delicate we are today.

And, you know, the left used to be so, on the Kennedys with Robert F.

Kennedy.

Robert F.

Kennedy, I mean, I don't know if there's, you know, somebody out trying to kill him.

I just assume because he's a Kennedy, all Kennedys, somebody's out there to kill them.

It does seem that way.

It does seem that way.

But

you would never say 86 RFK.

You'd never,

just because we're decent people.

But when it comes to Donald Trump, and I'll bet you now with RFK too, it wouldn't be bad to say 86 RFK in some circles.

They'd be fine with killing them.

Well, first of all, yes, that's probably true in some circles.

I mean, there's an entire Hamas wing of the party.

But I mean, American, American, you know, leftist circles.

Yeah.

They don't care.

Ends justify the means.

They're awful people on that side.

I will say it's possible that he didn't mean that in that way.

I mean, I.

No, it could mean get out of

46.

I want him out.

I want him out of office, right?

Yep.

I'm sure that will be his defense.

And one of the other things that is the new left-wing pastime singing.

As you're talking, I just can't not.

I can't look at you now because I'm only seeing you as a baby.

I have very innocent eyes.

I know you didn't.

You just want to gobble your cheeks out.

That's why I'm eating more

to get those cheeks nice and plump.

The new left-wing pastime on Twitter today and on social media is to search for all of the conservatives that did tweet 8646 at some point during the Biden presidency.

And there were.

They weren't the former FBI director.

That's a very fair point.

I mean,

that's why I've never seen 8647.

I've never seen that.

8046.

I haven't seen it either, but apparently people did post it.

Okay.

But who are they?

I mean, look, we all have the crazy person that lives on our street.

We've always had that.

Growing up, you always had, oh, he's crazy Jim down the street.

Don't, kids, stay away from crazy Jim.

We all had the neighbor who was like, you know what?

And I'll tell you what else is happening right now that nobody knows.

And you're like, oh, okay.

I mean, you know, there are some conservative influencers that just didn't like Biden, that tweeted it, not meaning that wanting him dead, but wanting him probably removed from office.

All that being said, none of them, as you pointed out, were

people who were the former FBI director, number one.

None of them also

were

talking about a president that had almost been assassinated multiple times recently.

Right.

Right.

So, I mean, those two areas, I think, are a massive distinction, particularly the first one.

I mean,

even if, you know,

if someone had tried to assassinate, God forbid, we would hope that they never do,

Joe Biden when he was in office and you tweeted that after, I mean, it would be insensitive and probably a really bad idea.

And a waste of time.

But again,

it's almost redundant.

I mean,

he's almost

almost there.

He's weighed out.

He is, yeah.

His health isn't particularly strong, as you note.

However, beyond that, being the director of the FBI means that you are constantly processing a stream of threats against

the executive.

Yes.

And the fact that you would be in there and think that that was appropriate, knowing obviously what 86 could mean, it doesn't necessarily mean that, but it could mean that.

Honestly,

when I saw it, I didn't think he was saying kill him.

I thought he was saying, get him out.

Yeah.

Get him out.

Because that's what 86 means.

To me, at least, get out.

Get out.

Yeah.

So it's impeach him, cancel him, whatever.

However,

you know, again, when you're the FBI, former FBI director, you have a little more responsibility.

It's massively irresponsible.

Massively.

And he should just come out and apologize for it.

He should not say, I randomly saw these shells.

They washed up on the beach like that, I guess.

I don't know who did it.

And I thought it might be political, so I posted it.

Nobody believes that.

Another thing is, if you're the former FBI director, maybe never post anything on social media.

I don't know.

Do something that's supposed to be important.

I just don't even understand people with this nonsense.

So you know how many days, as of yesterday, you know how many days it's been since 9-11?

I did see this and everyone's talking about it.

8,647, 86.47.

I'm just saying that's what he was saying.

That's what he all said.

That's what he was saying.

I know there's a political message somewhere in there.

Yeah,

it was that, yeah.

What are the odds that yesterday was 8647 when he posted that?

I mean, the odds are 100% it was that many days to a day.

What does 9-11 have to do with this?

Well, he was in the FBI, and he just was like, it's a political message.

Is that really good?

We got to remember 9-11, but we got to remember it cryptically.

in clamshells.

Is he really going to argue that?

No.

No, I don't think so.

One interesting thing about this now, Glennis.

In case you don't know know what we're talking about, James Comey posted a picture in Shells on a Beach, 8647, which means 86 the president.

Gangsters would say that means kill him.

You know, if you're a soda jerk from the 1940s, that means, you know, cancel.

Hold it back, cancel that order.

Okay.

So 8647, 47 being the president.

I have some news for you, Glenn.

Okay.

It's sad.

It's tragic.

Oh, no.

James Comey has 86 his Instagram account.

No.

No.

Now, you would think that James Comey would have not had one.

Right.

Isn't that quite obviously the right move for a former FBI director?

Yes.

Never post anything.

Certainly, if you're going to have one, it should be private.

You know what I mean?

Like, maybe you want to post your family pictures to your family.

Okay, of course.

You know, I don't know why people enjoy doing that, frankly.

I'm still in, you know, I don't know, 1990 or something on that one, unlike my wife, certainly.

I don't know.

I like the collaboration.

I like people when they respond back and they,

you know,

I like some of this.

It's a business where it's very important and I have to do it.

But like, I don't know that I would necessarily have a.

I wouldn't do it if I wasn't in this job.

I would do it.

I would do it with my family.

Maybe like a personal kind of like, yeah, like even posting things.

Like I, I, like, I, you know, I'll, you know, like I take pictures and I send, I typically will just like send them to my wife if I think they're a good picture of the kid.

It's like, you know, but I mean, you could easily just as well do that, I guess, on a social media account that's private.

But this is, again, it's attention seeking.

And, you know, we're in a business where we need people to listen to the show, want people to listen to the show, want people to be interested in what we do.

It's part of our business.

If you're the former FBI director, unless you think of yourself as a celebrity that writes big books,

then I guess you do need an Instagram.

Oh, he doesn't look at himself like that at all.

You'd think there'd be no need for that as a former FBI director.

But again, he sees himself as an MSNBC personality, which is just pathetic.

Like, I, you know, he is, he really is pathetic.

And now he has no Instagram account.

Pretty smart.

That's the first smart thing he's done in a long time.

A little late on that one, James.

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All right, so apparently,

apparently, there's this

football team,

big football team, and this guy named Bill Burgess was a coach and a player there for a long time.

I don't know.

I know Rick from Rick and Bubba, previously with Rick and Bubba, is here, and this is his dad.

So

try to just say, okay,

let's just pretend we know who his dad is.

Rick, welcome to the program.

Oh, my goodness.

Hearing you two talk about football is agonizing.

What are you talking about, him, Mike?

He knows that.

He's just been dragged into this thing with me.

Stu?

I will tell you, if I was going to ask about a team, I'm going to ask Stu over you, Glenn.

Am I going to Stu, though, if I have other options?

No, you're not.

Okay, welcome.

Tell me about your dad.

So you guys are so kind to have me on.

Of course, you know, we, as you said, spent 31 years doing the Rick and Bubba show, and now this year started the Rick Burgess Show.

We're five months in, as you said, got the new podcast on Blaze TV, still working with you guys.

So this has been something that I have been thinking about for a while, about writing a book about my dad, an iconic figure.

And it's not just a football book or anything like that.

It's really about the men.

And I know you guys have talked about it so many times.

They're a dying breed, and we desperately need them back.

So in order to mold the next generation, we need to be able to look to the model.

And dad was an incredible leader, influencer, wonderful father.

You know, isn't that a nice change of pace for a man to actually say his father was great?

But he was one of a kind, a true original.

You know how we throw around that phrase a lot, hey, they broke the mold on that one.

And then you're thinking, did they really?

In this case, I can tell you, especially

the two of you who've never met him, there is no one on this planet that I've ever met quite like Bill Burgess.

And, you know, he was so humble that I knew I couldn't do the book until it was the right time.

And unfortunately, he passed away in December of 2023, battled Alzheimer's in the final years of his life.

And when he passed, I said, you know what, now's the time to give him, you know, the recognition that he would have never wanted but deserved and try to use him to help influence not just men.

You know, my wife read it because it comes across like this is a dude book.

And it certainly is beneficial for men.

And you know that I have a real heart for men's ministry and you guys have been kind enough to let me talk about that in the past.

But this is actually a book for anyone.

I remember my wife read it and I came home and she's a real writer, so I was nervous about her assessment.

And she said, you know what?

I knew your dad for 30 years, but after reading this book, I understand you better.

And I also

was taught two things by your dad in this book that I need to apply to my life today.

So it's got a lot of comedy in it.

It's got a lot of seriousness in it.

You know, you'll laugh, you'll cry.

You've heard that before.

I always say this.

If my dad was coaching football today, he would be put in jail.

So if anybody doesn't know who his dad was, American football coach, he was head coach at Jacksonville State University, I believe.

Also played for Auburn.

Correct.

Yeah, and in the Hall of Fame.

So tell me,

what do you get?

What do we learn from your father that we should know?

Well, you think about the title.

I could tell you and Stu both had a reaction to the title, and I knew that would be the case.

It really is an intriguing and provocative title.

Men Don't Run in the Rain.

I can't tell you how many people are like, man, as soon as I saw that, I was like, what?

And I opened up the book telling you about me being a kid, and

I kept noticing that anytime it would rain, that if my dad was outside, he would never change his walk.

He would walk in the rain, never scurrying,

never frantic.

And I was little, so I never questioned him about it.

Well, I got about 13, 14 years old, and I was at school because he was also coached high school football before he coached college, and it's where I went to school.

A lot of you may not know this, but I'm actually an Oxford graduate.

I'm not trying to get all arrogant.

Of course, that's Oxford High School.

It's true.

It's absolutely true.

So it's in between Atlanta and Birmingham.

If you're ever in the deep south, where I grew up is where you stop and go to the bathroom, if you're going to either one of those cities.

So anyway,

I was outside waiting to ride home with him because I wasn't old enough to drive yet, but I was already playing junior high football and he was the athletic director and head coach of the varsity.

So he comes out, well, one of those classic Alabama thunderstorms in the heat of summer start.

Well, I go to run to his truck

and he takes his forearm and he stops me.

And I looked at him.

He said, men don't run in the rain.

And at the time, I was like, what?

He said, said, man, we don't run in the rain.

We walk to the truck.

And I started thinking, what in the world did he mean by that?

But over time, I understood it wasn't about,

you know, don't look stupid or whatever.

It was like men should be steady.

Men should be fearless.

And if you're going to be frantic about the rain, what about in life when you face something that truly is difficult?

How will you ever, he was already looking ahead, how are you ever going to stand in and

have a headship and leadership in your family?

How are you going to deal with difficulties when they come your way?

If you think rain is difficult, and my dad's perfect vision of a man and his family is that in the pouring rain, his wife would be put in the car dry, his kids would be put in the back seat dry, and then he would sit at the steering wheel soaking wet.

You know,

in looking through this,

I don't know if I taught my kids anything that profound at all.

But

your dad said so many things to you that

are so important.

You know, one of the things that he said

on just remaining humble is nobody cares what you did last year.

And here's a guy who, you know, no, they care about what you did last year.

Dad, you're in the hall of fame, right?

Yeah.

His humility was incredible.

And, you know, he also, since he coached such a team sport, he was infuriated about individual awards.

We literally had to tell him, Dad, you're accepting this award on behalf of all the coaches, all the teams.

He's like, no, no individual wins a football game.

No individual has a successful football program.

And he always had that attitude.

But what he meant by that was, you know, and he taught me that lesson.

He said, you can't spend the rest of your life continually tell stories about what you did last year.

What are you going to do this year to make it count?

And you can't drag last year.

You know, he taught me that lesson, as you guys may have seen in the book, because I had started on varsity as a sophomore, which that drove him crazy.

But my position coach actually gave me that.

And so when I came back the next year as a junior, I thought, well, I'm a starter.

And I wasn't even doing anything.

I don't think that was that big a deal.

But he stopped practice day one.

He said, hey, get out, get on the sideline.

Let's get somebody in here who wants to play.

And I was over going, what is he even talking about?

And I'm over there getting a drink of water or whatever.

And he walks over and he says, hey, let let me just tell you about this.

Nobody cares what you did last year.

It has no impact on what we're doing preparing this team.

And I thought, okay, he's teaching a football lesson, but he's teaching much more than that.

We all know the men and women that keep telling that same story about what they did 25 years ago, but what have you done today?

So did your dad,

I mean,

you know, kids generally don't take that stuff well when you're saying it to them.

You know what I mean?

They're like, you know, they out.

That is so frustrating.

Did you take it that way?

Did you understand the lessons when he was giving them?

And was he just a hard ass all the time?

No.

No, he really wasn't.

Every player that ever played for him will tell you this.

He was hard, but he was fair.

And it was that fair side that bought...

What you're thinking about why you didn't.

Now there were days you got frustrated with him, of course, but but did I understand the depth of the lessons when they were coming?

Not all of them.

But let me tell you why I was willing to listen and he was a great leader.

And this is the biggest part.

And you just said it.

Please do not picture my dad being the great Santini.

It was nothing like that.

He was hard.

He was no nonsense.

It was his way or no way if he was in leadership.

But he also would come home and leave all of that at the office.

At home, he had a gregarious laugh that would fill up an entire house.

He never took us out in the yard and said, we're going to run through some drills today, boys.

Nothing like that.

When I told him I wanted to play football, he said, why?

When I was, you know, in a little league, he said, if you want to play because you want to, don't play because you think I want you to.

And he didn't coach us in little league.

He didn't take us out in the yard, like I said, and make us run.

When he came home, he was dad, and he was fun, and he was

also really, our mom was probably more of the heavy in the house.

Now, look, when dad was called in, that was the end of the foolishness, okay?

But mom kind of handled the daily outbreaks.

Dad was only brought in for

the heavy stuff.

And I think the thing that I could say that I love the most about him is that we always felt safe.

Why do you think this is important now?

I think we're missing this.

I think there is,

you know, my mother is a powerful woman.

She's still alive today, and she certainly was not inferior to him in any way, but our house had structure.

And the man was the head of the house and had a headship and a leadership, and the mom, his total equal.

They were equal, but they were beautifully distinct.

And that's how God made the family, and we're turning that upside down.

And we're taking men like my dad, and instead of celebrating them, we're actually criticizing them and calling that toxic masculinity when it's not.

Now, there is a form of toxic masculinity, no doubt about that.

But men like my dad, that's not it.

And we're letting that being lumped in because he was a leader, because he was an influencer, because he believed you needed to be tough, because he believed you needed to stand in the gap, because he believed you needed to be steady, but he believed you didn't need to make excuses.

He believed you didn't worry about things like rain that would take you off the main goal of where you're going.

He was actually

invaluable.

And there was a time when men like him just blended into society.

They weren't even considered to be a big deal.

Right.

But we're losing them and we got to turn that around.

What, I mean, how much would your father stick out now?

Oh,

like I said, if he was coaching, they would want to put him in jail.

I can't, you know, and you see these, the thing that's missed, especially these young males, they crave a man like my dad.

And we have males that think that they should be babied and spoiled and given whatever they want.

And that's the way to, you know, that's not, that's no way to lead.

I tell you, there are men everywhere we go.

Can you imagine this, Glenn and Stu?

I can be going through an airport and somebody will see my kids and they'll see me and they'll say, are you Bill Burgess's son and are these his grandchildren?

And when I say yes, I can't tell you the number of times with tears in their eyes they'll say, your daddy saved my life.

Your daddy was the daddy I didn't have.

If it wasn't for your daddy, I'd be in jail.

And we're missing those guys.

You know, it's amazing because I have always found women who just have self-confidence.

They know who they are.

They're comfortable in their own skin.

And they just, they just walk differently.

I find those women to be incredibly attractive and beautiful.

And, you know, you see all these men who are

becoming almost women in their attitude.

I can't imagine women find that attractive.

They find a man who knows who he is, you know, and knows the role of a man.

I would imagine that women feel the same way about that's what's attractive, is a man who's a man and not

boastful, not coming in and, you know, let me show you how it's done.

None of that.

Just a quiet, humble man.

Well, I will tell you, you're exactly right.

And we see this a lot during the men's ministry.

And my mom will tell you this.

I'm married to the kind of woman you're talking about.

I'm sure you guys are too.

Yeah, we are.

But here's the thing.

We're exhausting them because we're making them do our job and their job.

And that's what's missing.

When we went out and started reaching and discipling men with themanchurch.com, which you guys have been kind enough to let me talk about, and when we finally get men to take the proper role in the home, The biggest fans of all this are women, to your point, Glenn.

They're saying, I never wanted to have headship in the home.

I never wanted to usurp my husband.

I knew we were equal.

I'm confident in myself.

I wanted to do my job, but I wanted him to do his.

I didn't want to do my job and his.

I'm not trying to, you know, be some woman who is under, like I say, undermining my husband.

My husband won't do it, and I've been stuck with it.

And we're frustrating women.

So, yes, when they see a man that takes his proper place, you better believe it's attractive.

The name of the book is Men Don't Run in the Rain is by Rick Burgess.

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Let me introduce you to somebody.

Justin Kite.

He is with PragerU Kids.

He's the creative director for PragerU Kids.

And I was with him.

Oh, I don't know, Monday, I think.

Justin, was it Monday that we were together?

It was Monday.

It was Monday.

And it was the first time that we had met.

And you are a

history teacher.

You taught history.

You're really, really good at it.

And would you just share what you shared with me about halfway through the day about your history with me?

Yeah, most definitely.

First of all,

thanks, Gwen, for having me on.

Sure.

Well,

I was a U.S.

history teacher and also world history teacher at the high school level at big public schools in Texas.

And

at the height of

going back with

the Fox News,

that was kind of the height of my,

I would say, I mean, I was kind of a

painting me.

I'm with you.

I'm with you.

I'm still with you.

I think I was a propaganda artist and I didn't even know it.

And,

you know,

you were kind of my foil and

my number one enemy.

And so

when it was time to

get on the plane and go meet Glenn Beck in the Glenn Beck show,

it was a very surreal experience for me.

Right.

Because you have changed.

What woke you up?

You know, having a front row seat to it, and I didn't have a,

like, like one big moment.

It was kind of like Spidey Senses

that started

really in about 2011

because I had gone through my teacher training in 2008, and just within the three years,

things really started to shift fast.

And I was and I was in the types of schools where we had a lot of outside experts coming in to try to

save the world and

fix the system.

And

as early as 2011, they were bringing in these pilot programs from fancy universities that had us talking about stuff

in the classroom that even me being at that time a very liberal, liberal

proponent of everything against what you were saying.

It didn't feel right.

And

so it's like, and my unique experience there, which relates to kind of what we're going to talk about today, I hope, is that,

you know,

I'm a white guy and I'm in front of classrooms primarily of Hispanic and black children.

And

I'm teaching U.S.

history.

And

I'm kind of of being

nudged, is a nice way to put it,

to preach victimhood.

And it just didn't feel, it didn't feel right.

And

I didn't do it.

And

I framed my history lessons as

a story of America as a story of survival, America as a story of achievement.

And that included everybody in this country, regardless of ethnicity or skin color.

Well, it was great to work with you on Monday.

I was cutting some stuff that

I and Prager, you are working on for history, and you were at the museum.

And

you were a great partner to work with.

Keeping me honest, keeping it right on track, you're a great partner.

But you gave me as a gift one of your books, and there are now seven books in the series.

They're Trailblazers of America.

I had not heard of this kid series, but I've been reading it.

It's fantastic.

Tell everybody what it is.

Yeah, thank you so much.

It's a seven-part bio series, and the intro music that you had for me was perfect with that Western twing

because that's kind of the vibe of our Trailblazer series.

And we have,

you can buy them individually,

seven stories, or you can get them in a full compilation.

But it's from Daniel Boone all the way to Bass Reeves with six other stories in between that kind of chronologically tell the story of America's growth and expansion westward.

And so from

Boone to Davy Crockett to Lewis and Clark to Johnny Appleseed to John C.

Fremont to John Sutter and then Bass Reeves, we're able to

kind of take our readers on a trip that geographically covers the country, but then also chronologically covers the country and does so in a way that is pretty exciting.

Yeah.

And I mean, I think I hugged you when you said Bass Reeves was in the book.

Because Bass Reeves, I mean, some people say it's this is all just legend.

Nobody knows.

And I don't think it's true.

But

some people say that Bass Reeves is

the inspiration for the Lone Ranger.

And when I found Bass Reeves,

because I was doing, you know, I was painting a painting of the Lone Ranger, and I wanted to learn more about it.

And I saw this name, Bass Reeves, is possible.

And I started looking it up, and I'm like, how did I not own this guy?

This guy is fantastic.

And he was a U.S.

Marshal.

And tell his story a little bit.

Well, so he was born into slavery, and he was

owned by a well-to-do family in East Texas.

And when

the Civil War broke out,

he was brought along with

the young men of that family.

And interesting of his upbringing, which is so condemning of the institution of slavery, is that his, like the family that owned him permitted him to use firearms but they didn't permit him to learn how to read which says a lot about the importance of education

but in that childhood where he was brought up with guns he became an expert marksman and

always having a

an american spirit inside of him i would say that when given the opportunity to break free from slavery, he did so and did so on the way to fighting in the Civil War.

And then he escaped into

the, you know, the bandit lands of the Indian Territory.

And while he was there, we don't, I mean, he was literally off the grid.

And so his time in the Indian territory is legendary, but he must have picked up or at least intensified his skills because when the Civil War ended and he then, you know, and slavery was abolished and he was allowed to, permitted to

kind of join join american society he did so as a u.s marshal and

racked up

statistics that were just like unheard of yeah he was a guy who always got his man always got his man no matter how long it would take if he was on your trail you were going to jail or die and we're talking like like hundreds of dudes that he went after and was successful in getting and an incredible man of integrity one of the people that he actually had to bring to justice was his own son.

Thank you for knowing that.

And so,

you know,

we at Prague, you kids aim to teach what isn't being taught.

And,

you know, you said you didn't know that much about Bass Draves.

I didn't even know who the guy was.

And I'm a U.S.

history teacher.

And so one of the cool things about this series is kind of uncovering those old gems that has kind of been forgotten about.

And it's, I mean, if you're in California, the sixth story is John Sutter,

who was the owner of a mill where gold was discovered, I believe, in California.

And this guy,

you know, when you learn about

the rush to California, you see the kind of American that we now say just doesn't exist.

Now we're like, oh, I don't know, that seems really hard.

If you want to be an American, you know, you should read John Sutter

because it's optimistic and yet stubborn.

And it's just, we're going to get it.

We're going to do what we know we can do.

Correct?

Oh, most definitely.

And

we strategically picked John Sutter because we wanted to have an immigrant tale

as part of the series.

And he was born in Switzerland.

and made his way to America as a young man.

And

our theme of our John Sutter book is pretty much failure because that guy dreamed big and fell on his face over and over again, but had the gumption and had, again, that American spirit to get up and try again.

So the name of the book, and if you have kids, you have grandkids, you owe no homeschoolers, you need to get Trailblazers of America.

Trailblazers of America.

It's from Prager U and Justin Kitis, the author of it.

He's the guy I'm talking to.

Can you only get it at PragerU or where can you get it?

So you can go to our website, but then that links you to Amazon.

So you can go directly to Amazon and get it as well.

And

I agree with everything you said about getting it for the kids.

But even if you don't have kids, you make a heck of a coffee, a heck of a coffee table book, too.

Yeah,

most Americans don't know these stories.

I know these stories, and that's why I'm saying it for kids.

I shouldn't have said that.

Most Americans do not know these stories and they need to they need to because you'll be able to it just it helps you frame where we are what is true what we're capable of and where we need to go most definitely sir uh it's uh it was great to meet you justin and thank you for sharing with me uh your uh

your Glen hating years.

I had them too, so don't worry about it.

You're not alone.

From from foe to friend, sir.

Yeah, that's right.

Thank you, you, Justin.

I appreciate it.

Justin Kite,

it is PragerU.com.

Also, you can get it online at Amazon.com, Trailblazers of America.

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