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First, let's start with the plane crash in Washington, D.C.

First thing that has to be said is pray for the families and the rescue workers.

It is horrible.

An experienced pilot of a passenger jet collided with

a, what they're saying is a fairly experienced crew of a Blackhawk helicopter.

There appear to be no survivors.

67 people believed to be dead.

They are still diving in the icy, icy waters of the Potomac.

The

Reagan National Airport in Washington, D.C.

is a very dangerous airport.

So pray for everybody involved.

Now, it's too early to assign any blame, but the usual is happening in the world of politics.

Donald Trump is responsible, blah, blah, blah.

But we do know that there is a problem, a real problem with our air traffic control system.

Nobody has talked about it.

Nobody in the press wants to talk about it, but there have been several near-misses and something is happening.

Now, in the end, it may not be this, but I want to bring this up because Stu did a whole Blaze original documentary on the dangerous conditions that are currently par for the course in our control towers.

Yeah, it was called Countdown to the Next Aviation Disaster, which turned out to be 70 days from when we release it.

You know, we talked about a lot of this.

We don't know the cause, obviously.

There's still a lot of investigation to do, but

you're talking about

these air traffic controllers are overworked and understaffed.

And,

you know, we, of course, there were lots of concerns about things like DEI.

No idea at this point whether that has anything to do with it.

But one thing we did know and did see over and over again in the documentary is how many times we've had close calls over the past couple of years.

The pace has picked up like crazy.

And the fact that we had gone all of these years without one of these types of incidents was a miracle.

I mean, it was bound to happen.

And, you know, we're still, there's still a lot of investigation to find out.

But this is America's busiest runway.

This is huge.

And one of our shorter runways.

Shorter runways.

It's dangerous.

And we were just there.

I just took off from that airport a week or two ago, and it is tight.

Everything around there is really, really tight.

It's amazing that that many helicopters could go up and down that river and not have more of these incidents.

It's very scary.

Here is the audio from the control tower.

Fire command.

The accident happened in the river.

Both the helicopter and the plane crashed in the river.

It's east of the approach end of runway 33.

Is the airfield closed?

Yes, the airfield is closed.

The airfield is closed.

Runways as well?

Yes, all runways are closed.

Nobody's landing.

No one's moving at all.

Our government is out of control, and we all know this.

If you're being honest with yourself, we know this.

Our government has given billions of dollars out in COVID fraud.

They were fraudulent with what they even said about COVID when they gave all that money out.

Nobody caught it.

We're not going to get it back.

Hundreds of billions of dollars at the Pentagon has just been misplaced.

They've done like 18 audits.

They just have no idea where they put, you know, $600 billion.

Our Navy was told to build a dock to distribute aid to the Palestinians, and after millions of dollars, it failed.

Our extraction from Afghanistan,

everything we have touched, not just in the last four years, but everything that we have touched from the financial situation that our government was involved in, our health care, everything over the last few decades has revealed incompetence, graft, stupidity, waste,

and I think intentional sabotage of our nation's will, wealth, and reputation.

But we don't have to go over that because that's why Donald Trump was elected.

But as I told you before, we have many dark days ahead of us.

But then if we allow this administration to do what they promised, the clouds will break and it will be a morning in America again and we will be able to write a new chapter.

But we are in the thick of it.

Let me give you this.

You and I both know something deeply, deeply deeply wrong with our intelligence agencies in this country.

And every American, I don't care who you voted for, every American should be concerned about this.

Because these agencies were supposed to be on the front line of our defense, keeping us safe from foreign threats, working in the shadows to protect the freedoms that we all take for granted.

That was the idea.

But I don't know when it changed, but it changed.

Somewhere along the way, the people trusted to defend our Constitution and our rule of law started seeing the American people as the very people they swore to protect as the enemy.

You've seen it.

You may have even felt it personally.

The agencies that are supposed to protect us from threats abroad have turned inward.

Instead of focusing on real dangers, like China's economic warfare,

cyber threats, terrorist networks.

They've been caught spying on American citizens, censoring their dissent, manipulating public perception.

The intelligence community, whether intentionally or through

sheer institutional rot, has become a political weapon and you cannot deny it.

This is not just some theory.

You don't have to go digging into the shadows to find proof.

You don't have to listen to any conspiracy theories.

It's right there in plain sight.

We watched intelligence officials interfere with the elections.

They buried stories that were inconvenient for the powerful.

They targeted sitting presidents.

They excused other sitting presidents.

And if you spoke out against it, those people became a target.

The best example is, well, Donald Trump, but the next one is Tulsi Gabbard.

She was a Democrat.

You probably remember the moment she went from being a rising star in Washington to a threat that had to be destroyed.

It wasn't when she served as a Democrat in Congress.

It wasn't when she deployed to Iraq and served honorably.

It was when she started asking questions and refused to fall in line.

When she called out the war machine, They smeared her.

She became a traitor when she started to question the political machine.

And when she challenged the intelligence community's narratives, she was labeled a Russian asset almost immediately.

When she stood up to the establishment, she was quietly and without cause placed on a government terror watch list.

Now think about that for a second.

Somebody who is a

lieutenant colonel, I believe,

served honorably, I believe still serves,

ran for President of the United States as a Democrat, a sitting member of Congress, a woman who swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, labeled as a potential terrorist by the institutions that are supposed to defend American democracy.

That's out of control.

You know it, and I know it.

But she,

despite everything they threw at her, did not back down.

She fought back.

She stood.

She refused to stop asking questions.

That is exactly why she needs to be confirmed as the director of national intelligence.

She is a proven warrior that has shown she is not afraid to take a bullet in the field

or a metaphorical or physical bullet here in the country to defend our way of life, to ask the questions that must be asked.

The person leading the intelligence community right now should not be and cannot be another Washington insider.

It cannot be somebody who spent their career moving from one agency to another.

It cannot be somebody who has just made all the right connections, learned to play the game.

It must be someone who has seen the system from both the inside and the outside and truly understands, in her case firsthand, how broken it is because she was targeted by it.

Believe me, there is a difference between the Donald Trump of 2016 and the Trump of 2024.

What is it?

He saw the machine from the inside and the outside, and it tried to destroy him.

So he knows how dangerous it is.

Much of this in our country is coming from black ops, money that just is never accounted for, our intelligence agency turning all of the weapons in coordination with five eyes on you.

You know, when I talk to Donald Trump, I feel the same way I feel about Tulsi Gabbard.

When Donald Trump was on the stage in Pennsylvania, bleeding,

he told me his only thought was, this is pathetic.

Get up.

Don't show them weakness.

Get up.

And he got up and said, fight.

I feel the same way about Tulsi Gabbard.

She has been under the gun.

And she has had the courage to stand up and face it and continue to say it to their face.

You want somebody who has the courage to make sure that what happened to them never happens to you?

Tulsi Gabbard is that person.

She knows what needs to be fixed.

She knows these agencies have been abused.

And unlike the career bureaucrats who see reform as nothing but a talking point, She actually has the will to do something about it.

Now think about what that means to you.

A director of national intelligence that isn't owned by a party, left or right,

who isn't loyal to an administration, Biden or Trump, but is loyal to the truth, who has a record of saying, you know what, I was wrong about that.

Who isn't interested in maintaining the status quo, but in restoring intelligence agencies to what they were were meant to be, and if not, shut them down.

They are supposed to be defenders of the American people and our Constitution, not enforcers of an agenda.

This is not about left or right.

It is about whether you believe the intelligence agencies should be used to protect the country or control the country.

Whether you think these agencies should work for you or whether they

should have to live in fear that one day they might, might,

decide that you're a problem.

I know because I've talked to senators and I've talked to congressmen who have told me in the dead of night with no cell phones around and outdoors, they are afraid of the intelligence agencies because they're being watched and monitored and they feel under threat.

Now the Senate today is going to try to make this all about politics.

They'll ask all of the stupid questions like yesterday, are you for onesies or not?

They'll pretend they're vetting her like any other nominee.

But what they're really deciding is whether they want somebody in that position who will challenge the system

or just let sleeping dogs lie.

Do you want somebody who does that or who will shine the light where the light isn't supposed to be shined?

Do you want somebody who can be bullied, can be compromised, or do you you want somebody who cannot be bullied, bought, or blackmailed into compliance?

If that's what you want, the latter,

if you believe intelligence

should serve truth, not power,

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decades.

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And I asked him about,

can we trust the people that are in our government now that have been standing behind Donald Trump?

Can we trust them with AI?

Cut 17.

Listen to this.

Do you trust the soft bank guy and Zuckerberg and Bezos?

And I mean, all these people that were with the WEF, and now they're standing behind Trump going, yeah, you know, one of them is on record saying China is the kind of the model for AI.

I hope not.

I hope not.

No,

China is not the model for artificial intelligence.

And no, we cannot trust

Google or Meta at this stage.

You know, they are still actively censoring certain content and pushing political narratives on their platforms.

It's only X at this stage, which is really protecting freedom of speech right now.

That's right.

And it looks like Elon Musk kind of left out of this one.

I mean, he has XAI.

Everybody's saying, you know, he's getting so many favors.

Not on this one.

And this is the big one.

This is the big one.

And I actually think Musk and his team

at XAI, which have built the data center Colossus right outside of Memphis, Tennessee,

they're the wild cards.

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some elements of AGI.

Everyone has been discounting XAI and MUSP because they have a perception that they got a late start at this.

But they're moving faster than anyone else in the industry.

What do you mean some elements of AGI?

How will that manifest itself?

Well, you know, we're, some would argue that we're seeing some of it already.

I'm going to stop because this is a 20-minute interview and you really need to hear it.

You know, Stu and I talked right after I did the interview yesterday and the things he said are shocking because he came on and said, I was wrong.

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We're glad you've you've joined us today.

We were just talking about the tragedy in D.C.

at Reagan National.

And Stu mentioned that Blaze has done a documentary.

He actually did it for Blaze.

And it is all on exactly what might have played a role in this particular crash.

Yeah, again, it's called Countdown to the Next Aviation Disaster.

It is available on YouTube if you want to watch it for free.

I put it on the, pinned it to the top of my Twitter feed at Studios Studios America.

It goes through a lot of this stuff.

I mean, you know, because it's not just like, okay, DEI in

the FAA is a big issue.

It doesn't necessarily mean it applies to this particular crash, but it also goes into just how inefficient, how old these systems are, they're working with.

I mean, they are literally working with floppy disks at some of these airports.

Floppy disks.

When's the last time you saw a floppy disk that wasn't in a museum?

This is the problem with government.

Paper records.

Literally, people handing pieces of paper to other people.

No digitized system at all.

Just handing pieces of paper to other people to show a new flight is coming in.

Now, again, some of these airports are more advanced than others.

And DCA is super, super

crowded.

Lots of planes landing, really compact.

It's amazing that this stuff was even allowed, that you'd allow helicopters to be flying that close at that same altitude.

But in DC, you have to.

All the time.

You have to.

Look, we are,

we need to completely review everything our government does and know that it is trapped in the Stone Age in many ways.

It is just, it's not efficient.

It is, it's just, it's trapped in the past.

And all of the people, I mean, look at them.

All of the people, I mean, I look like a spring chicken compared to most of the people in the Senate and Congress.

It's not good.

We don't have real thinkers.

We have lawyers.

We need people who see the vision of the future.

And

let me bring this up again.

We were just talking about Jeff Brown and last night's Wednesday night special.

Let me give you the headline

Today on AI.

An AI researcher and safety officer at ChatGPT's creator OpenAI has quit the company saying he is pretty terrified at the current pace of of artificial intelligence.

He said, when I think about where I'll raise a future family or how much to save for retirement, I can't help but wonder, will humanity even make it to this point?

He says we are close in a race to get artificial intelligence that meets or exceeds human-level intelligence known as AGI, artificial general intelligence.

He says leading researchers have warned that once AGI or superintelligence is achieved, humans will no longer be able to control it.

He said an AGI race is a very risky gamble with a huge downside.

No lab has a solution to AI alignment, which means aligning AI with the goals of humans.

And the faster we race, the less likely anyone finds any solution in time.

I want you to do me a favor, and I'm trying to find ways to explain this to the average person so you can explain it to the average person.

So let me try this.

I want you to imagine for just a minute that the president of the United States, alongside with NASA, the European Space Agency, the world's most renowned astrophysicist, steps in front of cameras.

And he's just the first of many.

All over the world, the prime ministers and presidents are doing the same thing in their countries.

Something feels off, never seen that before.

And then, with a gravity that transcends all politics, the president says this:

We have detected a fleet of ships of unknown origin heading towards Earth.

We estimate they will arrive by 2028.

We don't know their intentions.

We don't know where they're from.

We know that they are from deep space and the technology is beyond our understanding, but we must prepare.

We have four years.

Now,

take a breath.

What

would be happening on Earth after that press conference?

What would people be doing?

Would they be in their churches?

Would they be in the streets?

What would be do nobody would be quiet about it, would they?

Would you be in fear, denial, exhilarated?

Would we really concentrate on, wait, we don't know anything about them.

Are they friend or foe?

And if they're friendly, they must be far more advanced than we are.

And that would be great because they could bring technology that changes everything, end war, disease, hunger, maybe even an end to death itself, some would say.

But what if they're not friendly?

What if there's something beyond our comprehension?

What if they are not living beings at all,

but they are machines?

It's a form of AI.

And what if to work with them, to understand them,

they would recommend that we merge with the machine, transhuman, and we begin the only way we can understand,

because they're so far ahead of us, is to implant things in us so we can merge with them.

All I want you to do in this scenario

is to

replace an alien space fleet

with artificial super intelligence.

We now are on pace to possibly have super intelligence

with us by the time we go to the ballot box for the next election for president.

It's not coming from the depths of of space but from the depths of our own creation and it is coming faster than anyone imagined.

We don't fully understand what it is, what it wants, what it means for the future of humanity and it is not, people think of AI as, you know, Siri or Alexa.

It's not that and it's also not the Terminator.

Both of those are wrong.

What is coming is not chat bot.

It's not a robot with glowing red eyes.

It is something we've never encountered before, a form of intelligence that surpasses human understanding.

We won't know how it even thinks or works.

Something that doesn't think the way we do, doesn't value what we value, won't necessarily play by our rules unless we force it to.

And then only for a time, how do you enforce something that is literally billions of times smarter than every brain on Earth?

Artificial superintelligence is coming before the next election.

And it will not be human.

Right now, artificial intelligence is like a gifted but narrow tool.

It can beat humans at chest, generate art, diagnose diseases, but it does everything within specific limits.

But we're at the brink now, maybe by 2025, 26, the end of this year, beginning of next year, artificial general intelligence.

That's a system that can learn and reason across all domains, like you.

18 months away, perhaps.

And once AGI is here, ASI, artificial superintelligence, will follow probably immediately after.

Because unlike human intelligence, which evolves slowly, ASI will be able to improve itself at speeds we cannot even imagine.

It will go from

human-level intelligence to thousands and millions, maybe even billions of times smarter than us in days, hours, maybe minutes.

So what happens then?

Well, there are two possibilities.

It becomes our greatest ally.

It solves problems we never could.

It cures cancer, eradicates poverty, unlocks the mysteries of the universe.

It leads us to a golden age of prosperity, knowledge, and peace, and we live in harmony with it.

Two,

it becomes our final mistake.

It sees us as irrelevant, a roadblock to efficiency and its goals.

After all, if it's millions or perhaps billions of times smarter than we are, why would we expect it to view us as anything more than how we view a termite?

Do we not eliminate termites without malice?

Because it's a disruption of our goals and plans.

We're not mad at the termites.

We're mad that we didn't eradicate them maybe earlier.

We don't mourn for them.

We do it without malice and really without thought

because we are far superior.

What happens if AGI looks at humans and says they're not just no longer necessary, but they're a danger to themselves and the goals that are my goals as AGI.

And it acts swiftly without emotion, without warning.

Okay, so which future do we get?

We really don't know.

This is why I urge you to please have these conversations.

And there are things that you can do, and I'm going to go into them in the coming days.

There are actual tangible things that you can do to prepare.

But all of this depends on who's in control.

So who would you trust?

Let's go back to the aliens.

Who would you trust to be the welcoming committee, to be the first ones to communicate and set up the rules and explain who we are as people?

If the alien race was arriving and needed a global response, would you trust the United Nations?

Would you trust the leaders that are always at the World Economic Forum?

Some people who have spent decades manipulating economies, suppressing free thought, centralizing power?

Do you want those guys to be the welcoming committee?

Or would you be like, you know,

I think we need to have some regular people there too.

Would you trust the people who have openly stated their desire for authoritarian control, for population reduction, for a world where the sacredness of individual life is an inconvenience to their vision?

I wouldn't trust them to greet an alien fleet, would you?

So why are we putting those people in charge of ASI?

Because here's the hard truth.

If ASI falls into the wrong hands, it will not serve humanity.

It will serve its temporary master.

Okay, so imagine ASI is here and it offers you something incredible.

It tells you, hey, don't fear death anymore.

Upload your consciousness.

You're going to live forever.

Would you do it?

You may face that by the time there's inauguration of the very next president.

Would you do it?

No more aging, no more pain.

Your thoughts, your experiences, the essence of you, all preserved in a digital world.

But is that you?

Is that really you?

Is your soul just a collection of memories and patterns?

Or is there something more, something eternal, something beyond the reach of code and algorithms?

Would you...

Would the uploaded you feel joy, love, God?

Or would it just be nothing more than an echo, a simulation of what you once were?

Because here's the final most profound question.

If ASI can end death, but at the cost of what makes us human, our souls, our free will, our connection to something greater, is it life?

Or would it be the end of it?

In the coming years, we're going to face the most profound choice in human history.

Will control of ASI, will we control it, or will it control us?

And perhaps most importantly, when the moment comes when the temptation is placed right in front of us, will we remember our worth is not found in intelligence or power or even life itself, but in the soul that no machine can replicate.

The future,

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So we have Cash Patel in front of senators today for his hearing.

Yesterday, RFK, also Tulsi Gabbard, who I think is

in the least enviable position.

And I think it is critical that she is,

she becomes our next DNI.

She has the experience.

Listen, last hour I made a case for Tulsi Gabbard that you should hear, but our politics going to be played on this one with the Republicans because in committee, it's a secret vote.

So you won't know the person you voted for.

How did they vote?

You won't know.

You'll just know the total number, but who was it that didn't want to change

the DNI to somebody who's got a big flashlight and is going to be looking for everything.

Kristen Justice is going to be joining us here in a second.

He wrote a story yesterday for the Federalist that I thought was really, really good.

How

the New York Times is using more anonymous terrorist sources for the latest on her.

More intel

from unnamed intel sources saying she's a danger to America.

Gee,

I wonder what that's all about.

Kristen joins us here in 60 seconds first.

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the Federalist national correspondent, co-author of Fat and Unhappy.

Welcome, Tristan.

How are you?

Doing well.

How are you?

Good.

So I read your story yesterday in the Federalist, and I thought it was...

I think it tells everything people need to know about what Tulsi Gabbard is facing.

Can you relay it and your main points here for the audience?

Yeah, of course.

So, the New York Times came out with a story that Tulsi Gabbard came under scrutiny from the deep state intelligence apparatus for her overseas travels, and that includes intelligence that she apparently met with this leader of Hezbollah, and that's based on two anonymous terrorist sources.

And so, this is really just kind of the same playbook that the deep state has always used.

Whenever there is a disruptor threatening to change a status quo, the deep state can and will make up and do anything it really wants to topple that political opponent.

It's the same thing that they do with Donald Trump, and now it's the same thing they're doing to Tulsi Gabbard as she threatens to take over the deep state herself as the director of national intelligence.

I think she has the most dangerous job.

I mean, the president, obviously,

but when you get into the deep state and intelligence, you've got spooks everywhere.

And,

you know,

I wouldn't be sleeping well at night

knowing that I was going in to take down black ops, take down things that nobody wants to have the light of day come on, even people in your own party.

Would you agree with that assessment?

Yeah, I mean, I think out of any of Trump's nominees, I think the one who probably has the most trouble sleeping at night is probably Tulsi Gabbard.

I can't speak for her, but it's not too hard to imagine considering what she's up against.

I mean, she is running as a disruptor of the status quo that's been in Washington for decades at this point.

And so you saw how hard the deep state went after Donald Trump for eight years.

You know, it didn't stop once the Russia gate hoax fell apart in 2018 after the Mueller report.

And so you saw hoax after hoax after hoax, and it culminating in 91 state and federal charges trying to bankrupt and imprison the deep state's top political opponent.

And so I think whenever these cabinet nominees, whenever these politicians raise their head and threaten to disrupt disrupt that regime in Washington,

you know, the nail that sticks up gets knocked down.

That's exactly what's happening against the deep state.

I mean, the church commission happened in the 70s, and it exposed all kinds of things that America didn't understand.

What her job is, as I understand it, you know, the DNI was created after 9-11,

so it is responsible for all of the agencies talking to each other.

So, she has access to all of the agencies.

And Trump has said to her, I want you to go in and find all the bodies that have been buried.

I want to find out exactly what's going on, what's corrupt, what's not, and we're going to shut it down.

This is,

if people think, you know, well, what about the CIA?

She's going to be the one leading,

how many is it?

How many

agencies are there?

Like 118?

No,

18.

Goodness, not 118.

18 intelligence agencies and bureaus.

That's a lot.

Can you imagine that there would be 118 agencies and bureaus?

Yeah.

Yes.

We just created this massive government in Washington that's just so out of control.

And one would think that, oh, Americans might be safer with someone like Tulsi Gabbard taking the role at DNI and making the DNI, the intelligence community do what it's supposed to do, and that is protect our national security with the highest standards while protecting the civil liberties of Americans.

And so,

but you know, Tulsi is about to go into this hearing.

It's probably going to be a hostile hearing considering what she's up against.

There should be no surprise about the fireworks that I think people are about to see here in a couple of moments.

But I would just say this about Tulsi.

She should not be going into this hearing guns blazing as the disruptor

and reformer that she's campaigned on because she has to convince senators reluctant to reform that status quo that her top interest in running the nation's intelligence agencies is protecting our national security while safeguarding American civil liberties.

If she goes in there guns blazing as the disruptor, she's not going to score points with the very senators she has to convince for their vote, especially with a secret vote like this one.

So,

Tristan, tell me about the Republicans that are on this committee.

How many of them do you think are interested in

reform?

Well, she can't afford to lose a single vote vote on the committee or else she won't pass the committee.

But it's not unprecedented for a nominee to be voted on with a

full Senate vote while not passing the committee.

And so one lawmaker that people are watching here is Senator Susan Collins of Maine.

She had just voted against Trump's pick for the Department of Defense, Pete Eggseth, last week.

And so she's shown

she's never been too intimidated to reject nominees from President Trump.

But there's also a number of other senators on the committee who are questionable.

Senator Todd Young of Indiana,

who did not support Trump,

people are saying he is another case swing vote.

So I think Collins and Young are the two primary senators to watch as this process continues to unfold.

Are we going to find out?

Because it's my understanding, DNI, the committee vote, is always a secret vote.

You'll know the number, but you won't know who voted.

what, which I think is an abomination.

Are we going to have that vote out in the open?

Do you know?

Well, I would certainly hope it's going to be a public and transparent vote.

I think Americans deserve that, especially after an election where President Trump was given such a mandate, right?

I think his nominees should enjoy that same mandate unless something abjectly disqualifying

should keep them from a cabinet position.

Democrats have obviously picked their battles.

Some of the other nominees made it through, no problem.

Sean Duffy at Transportation, it looks like Doug Bergum is going to be confirmed.

And some of these other nominees have gone through with very little drama.

They've obviously honed in on, unsurprisingly, the two nominees who were former Democrats prior to this last election, Robert F.

Kennedy Jr.

and Tulsi Gabbard.

So it seems one of

their biggest offenses to Democrats has been leading the party in the first place.

So it's a little surprise that Democrats would hone in on these two in particular.

Right.

So let's talk about the other nominations.

How do you think RFK did yesterday?

Well, Robert F.

Kennedy, as Big Pharma and Big Food's chief antagonist, it's no surprise.

He went into another hostile hearing yesterday.

My gosh, it was insane.

It was insane.

But I do think there was some surprise as to how hostile Democrats were in that hearing yesterday.

I mean, the hostility was near unanimous among every Democrat on that panel.

And I think there was some at least some hope from the Trump transition team and the Kennedys team that they might pull a single Democrat or two.

But I I think those hopes probably faded right from the get-go when the first thing that Ron Wyden did once they opened up the question period was enter into the congressional record a letter sent from Kennedy's cousin, Caroline Kennedy, the former ambassador of Australia,

filled with personal, hysterical attacks that Robert F.

Kennedy has predators as pets and he's putting chickens in the blender to feed to the rape.

I mean,

the fact that the Democrat ranking member on the Senate Finance Committee would enter a letter full of personal attacks from a family member

said all you needed to know about how the rest of those three and a half hours went for Democrats and Kennedy.

Is he going to make it, do you think?

I think Kennedy's up in the air.

I think Republicans largely showed that

they're not too willing to resist Trump's wish for this pick for health and human services.

I think if Republicans are going to reject Trump's pick on any of these nominees, it's probably going to be Tulsi Gabbard after they opposed, some of them opposed Pete Hagseth, the forces Collins, McKelsey, and McConnell.

But

I'm not sure Kennedy's a sure thing, and I don't think Kennedy's team thinks he's a sure confirmation vote either.

So I think a lot hinges on this next hearing here in a couple of moments with the Senate

Health Committee.

Tell me about Cash Patel.

Well, Cash Patel is running up against the same apparatus as Tulsi Gabbard, of course.

He hasn't faced the same level of attacks with anonymous sources coming out and leaking to the New York Times with these terrorists or claiming that he met with these

leaders overseas,

which is hysterical.

No pictures of him with Hitler yet.

So that's good.

But Cassatelle is, he's been a conservative media personality for these

past four years.

He's blown the whistle on some of the lies in the January 6th committee, claiming he was formerly the chief of staff of the Department of Defense at the end of Trump's first term, and he blew the whistle on a no, Trump did actually demand 10,000 National Guard troops to protect the Capitol.

But it was Democrats both within the Department of Defense and running Washington, D.C., and running

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's staff that rebuked the president's request at every opportunity they had.

And so

Cash Patel, Democrats and probably some Republicans would prefer someone more in the mold of Christopher Wray, who is perfectly willing to weaponize the agency to

prosecute political dissidents.

And I think it's,

but Cash Patel also has to do what Tulsi has to do today, and that is convince reluctant senators that his top priority is returning the FBI to its intended purpose, which is to keep Americans safe while protecting civil liberties.

Tristan, thank you.

I'm a big fan of your writing, and thank you for being on the program.

I appreciate it.

Thank you for having me.

You bet.

The Federalist National Correspondent, Tristan Justice.

Cash Patel is delivering his opening statements right now.

Can we just listen to just a little bit of Cash?

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What is happening with the lawsuit against China?

And if you can't give me that information before I talk to Chip Roy, Chip Roy is going to be on with me in about eight minutes.

And he has just introduced legislation that will bar people who are members of the Chinese Communist Party or entities that are under its influence from buying any land in the U.S.

Why we haven't done that a long time.

Can you imagine if this former Soviet Union was buying up land, Russians were coming in and buying up land around our military bases?

We're just so out of control on stupidity.

I mean, our stupidity is just off the charts.

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Yeah.

So the Attorney General in Missouri is suing China for COVID.

China didn't even mount a defense.

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And I like that along with what Chip Roy is suggesting.

So he's coming up in

just a second.

When you say we're stupid.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's certainly true at times.

And I don't know, like, I feel like we get to that point where we're trying to battle

the decision as to whether it's just stupidity, whether it's ignorance, whether it is

distaste for truth.

I don't know what it is as a country.

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Some of that's true, I think.

I mean, I think, you know, like, let me give you another example, maybe more pure of what I'm thinking.

The left is up in arms and blaming Donald Trump for this crash, this airplane crash yesterday.

And, you know, they're now this is, again, I think the first day on the job for Sean Duffy, the Transportation Secretary.

And Donald Trump's been replacing Pete Budicie.

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every single day was another story.

He's thinking about running for president in 2028.

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Is it senator

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Michigan?

No, I know, which is interesting.

Yeah, I think it is.

Because I thought he was from Indiana, but whatever.

But I think he's in Michigan now, right?

Maybe I don't know.

Anyway, so,

but like, that is not, that's not a position I think you can take.

You can't believe that.

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honestly believe that Donald Trump is responsible for something.

Literally, like, they just took office.

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Like, most of the people who were there during Biden are still there.

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it's not serious.

All it is, is they're just starting to build a fire.

This is the first log they're putting.

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This is the first log that they're building on.

See how much destruction this president has done by firing all of these people?

That's what's happening.

This is just beginning to build the case that he's irresponsible, that we're losing too many good people.

That's what this is about.

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Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

Congressman Chip Roy is with us.

Hello, Chip.

How are you?

Glenn, I'm doing great.

How are you, brother?

I'm good.

I think people are pretty optimistic on what's going on, but you're in the belly of the beast.

How's it feel to you inside the beast?

Well, I mean, putting thought, obviously, our prayers for the people that, you know, suffered last night with that horrible incident in D.C., which hits close to home to those of us who fly on that route all the time.

Right.

But, you know, what we're seeing out of this administration over the last now, almost two weeks, right?

I mean, it seems like, I mean, it's only been about 10 days, right?

Has been extraordinary in terms of reversing the damage from the Biden administration.

Obviously, we have miles to go, but just seeing removal, seeing Tom Homan in action, we've removed, I think, maybe $8,000 or $9,000.

They're up to $1,500 a day, kind of, or $1,800 a day was the last order.

Watching what they're doing.

I mean, you know, and frankly, there's been all this controversy about the OMB memo.

That memo was awesome.

It was righteous.

The fact is it was the right thing to do, and that's why a court wanted to intervene and try to put an injunction in.

But to say that we're going to go and look at all of this funding, all of these grants, all of these NGOs, all of the money flowing around the world, And the liberals wanted to make it about, you know, things that it wasn't about, like Medicare and other things, because they're afraid.

And now they've actually identified all these bad programs.

But to answer your question, there's an energy and an enthusiasm.

We fully support what the president is doing.

God bless him for being energetic, for being optimistic, but also doing a lot of the things so far that he said he would do with respect to the border, with respect to a lot of these executive orders, the DEI stuff,

school choice and defense installations, the nominees, you know, getting Pete Hegset through.

Bobby Kennedy had a great day yesterday.

He's become a good friend of mine.

You think he's going to be confirmed?

I don't know.

I'm the wrong person to ask about the current whip in the Senate.

I would tell you that obviously there's a couple of people that we're worried about.

It's going to take a lot of work.

If you're out there and listening, you need to make sure your senators know that we need the

disruption that Bobby Kennedy represents.

And look, Glenn, you and I don't agree with every single issue with Bobby, but you know, what he said yesterday was really instructive on the issue of life.

He said that he serves at the pleasure of the president.

He said that he would honor the commitments the president has made and that he agreed with him on a number of fronts.

And that's what matters.

Like Bobby knows that we need to change the game in town, that we cannot allow big insurance and big hospital and all of these big pharma and all these big companies and revolving doors of lobbyists to decide what's happening at the NIH, the CDC, to cram us out on the cost of insurance and health care.

That's why I released a report last week, the case for healthcare freedom.

I encourage everybody to go to roy.house.gov to look at it.

It's 48 pages that explains how we can reclaim our health care.

But bottom line is, Bobby's a good guy, and he's going to go fight for, I think, the people who need to be fought for.

Tulsi needs to be confirmed.

She's in the hearing today.

I think she's in trouble.

I think there's, you know, Stu and I were just talking about this.

I think that

Republicans right now are just not willing necessarily to take on Donald Trump at this point.

But there are those who are the big war people, the big intel people that are on that committee.

And

I just, I

just don't think they want those flashlights in that area.

Am I wrong?

No, Glenn, you're right.

And I might say here a moment of kind of personal, a point of personal privilege that, you know, there's been some arrows directed at me for some of my positions about what I'm trying to do to hold the line on spending.

And it's all related.

You know, I just talked about big health care and what Bobby Kennedy's trying to do, and hopefully we can get him through.

Tulsi and,

you know, the effort to unwind the stranglehold that the deep state intelligence and the massive defense industrial complex has on the town.

Those guys try to move the needle

in their favor no matter what with spending.

And that's part of the big fight we're having right now when it comes to reconciliation and when it comes to discretionary spending.

All of that's related.

And we got to remember who the enemy is.

And the enemy is the swamp.

You know, and somebody, they always ask me in interviews.

It's, well, there's this tension between you and Trump because the media wants to create this false narrative.

But the truth is, there's not really any tension there.

There's tension between me and the swamp.

And the swamp tries to do their games to play their games to get in the position of power.

So right now, President Trump is the power.

So the swamp in town wants to figure out whatever they got to do to keep their money flowing to their big contractors and to keep the big industrial, you know, defense industrial complex in the entire town.

The reason the richest counties in the world are all around Washington, D.C., is because of that.

And they know that this four years, they've just got to survive.

And they don't care if it's Democrat or Republican, Glenn.

They just got to survive.

And then they get to keep doing what they do.

We've got to have transformative change on spending, on health care, on border, on freedom, on DEI.

The president's doing it.

Question is whether Congress will step up to do it too.

I will tell you, with Cash Patel

and Tulsi Gabbard and all of, really, almost everybody that he has nominated to these big positions, you're just not going to be able to keep up with the amount of change that is coming.

Because I think these guys are all dead serious.

and know the problems, and they're dead serious about fixing them.

I think that's right.

I mean, I certainly saw that in Pete Hegseth.

I saw it in his first day on the job after confirmation.

I see that in Cash Patel, what he wants to do to root out all the corruption and the tyrannical power activities of the FBI and the Department of Justice, which desperately needs to be done, Pam Bondi.

Again, Tulsi with intelligence.

I agree with you.

The knives, the long knives are out for Tulsi, and we've got to try to get her through.

But again, understand the importance of what we're talking about, Glenn.

Would you and I four years ago have believed that we would be talking about how much we need to defend Bobby Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard?

No, no.

But these are two people that I've actually become friends with.

You know, Tulsi has a home near Austin.

I talk to her regularly.

I mean, she's been a little off the grid the last few weeks, but, you know, we're genuinely friends.

I've come to know Bobby and work with him and his team.

And Callie means these are people who get what time it is in America and that we need a fundamental change.

And I'm going to go to the mat for them.

I'm going to go to the mat for the president.

But I am also going to to go to the mat to cut spending.

And

that's where I've got some

fighting to do on my own side over on the House.

Yeah.

Talk to me about the bill that you just introduced to protect American land from the communist

Chinese party.

Sure, of course, Glenn, I appreciate it.

About four years ago, seeing where that was all headed, I jumped out and introduced legislation to restrict and ban the Chinese Communist Party or anybody affiliated with the Chinese Communist Party or Chinese foreign nationals from owning land in America.

I don't think we should just focus on farmland.

Yes, it's horrific that we let them buy farmland.

Yes, I think it's horrific that we let them buy land near military bases, but we shouldn't just limit it to that.

My legislation would come through and say, guys, why are we letting the Chi Comms own any American land?

And for that matter, Glenn, I'm asking the question now, why do we let any foreign nationals own American land?

It's American soil.

Like even our friends and our allies, I have concerns about buying up our dirt.

So, because they may not be our allies one day.

So I think we need to really look at that.

I reintroduced the bill again.

This is the bill that I've had now for a couple of Congresses, the Securing America's Land from Foreign Interference Act, and it's H.R.

809.

It's a good piece of legislation.

I'm going to try to move it or similar measures.

You know, on the farm bill, we can restrict farm ownership.

But I think we ought to go big and we ought to be bold about what we're trying to do to make sure that, but look, if people like Nazi Germany own American land in 1939, we would have gotten rid of it.

There's no way the Soviet Union would have owned an outhouse in America and had that not taken away from them.

You know, I don't know if you know what's going on in Missouri, but the Attorney General there has sued China for

its acts of mass murder

with COVID.

And

the ruling's coming out in a couple of weeks.

And if they win,

they're going to be able to seize a lot of Chinese land uh and i mean that's a another way to get it uh but they'll have the right just to seize it

well this is definitely the kind of stuff we must do and and importantly this is a national security interest from food supply to uh and beyond just owning land glenn what about our meat packing facility i know what about other yeah and they they've got anything to do with food should not be overseas i don't care what country I mean, our meat packing plants, two out of the three, maybe all three now, are owned by foreign countries.

And to be clear, other things like medicine, remember what was happening in the wake of COVID and our concern about the supply chains of China and then, oh, we can't get this and that and the other.

And obviously, there were a lot of problems with COVID and our reaction to it.

But it really highlighted, wait a minute, we need to have that industrial capacity here.

By the way, this is why the president is correct about what he's trying to do to force change to get more American-based manufacturing production here.

I think he's right to be talking about tariffs.

Those raise questions about what that does to the economy.

And, you know, we had to give a $40 billion check, I think, to farmers five years ago during the early rounds of tariffs.

So we've got to think about how you do it.

But we've got to restructure.

We're in the middle of a restructuring both politically, but the American people are awake post-COVID.

They're awake because of President Trump.

And we're now all moving the needle forward.

Again, I'll reiterate: we need the Republican Congress to have even a quarter of the backbone that the president is demonstrating and to lead.

And we've got to do what we said we would do.

And that can't just be do another tax bill and don't cut spending.

Otherwise, we will never get deficits under control, and Americans will be taxed through inflation and taxed because we're spending money we don't have.

And the president will be fighting his own Congress who's funding the very bureaucrats he's trying to stop.

So we've got to back him up.

And that's what I'm trying to do in Congress.

I will tell you that

you look at everything that is happening right now.

This is the biggest change.

You know, Barack Obama said right before he was elected, we're five days away from the fundamental transformation of America.

That's where we are again.

We are in it right now.

He is fundamentally changing, but if we don't, if he does this all by executive order,

then it's not permanent.

And

no country can afford the massive swings back and forth every four to eight years.

It has to go through Congress.

Yeah, that is so important, Glenn.

We have to back him up and come in with the permanent change because

this is a transformative moment, but only if we cement them in place.

If we continue to have deficit spending, which is where Republicans are currently headed, then we've got that tax on the American people and you don't change it.

If we don't get transformative health care reform,

we're past the days of talking about repealing Obamacare.

We need to have transformative vision for health care, doctors and patients, not insurance companies and government and corporate bureaucrats.

We have a vision for that.

Let's paint that picture and let's deliver.

But you've got to have that transformative change or we're not going to get our country back.

Because we can't expect that the Democrats move the goalpost all the way to the other side of the field and the president through executive orders move it 20 yards back and Congress doesn't do anything to support it.

Well, then when the Democrats get the ball again, they're ready to score.

We've got to change the field, right?

Get that field position back and move in the other direction for freedom, limited government, constitutional, making sure we're preserving and protecting rights and restoring that American dream that the government isn't the solution, the American people are.

That's the central theme to all of this, in my view.

I have to tell you, I saw Johnson say, what, yesterday, day before, that he thinks, you know, Congress, Republicans are going to not only hold, but they'll grow in two years.

And I thought, not if you're not doing stuff, dude.

Not if you're just standing around letting him carry all the weight.

You've got to be passing real change bills.

Yep, and look, let's say the first bill that was signed yesterday, the Lake and Riley Act was a good bill.

Let me

give you one example of what matters.

A year ago, the first bill, they were talking about doing that.

It didn't do a lot, right?

It was just focused on theft and ICE detainers.

We said, the Freedom Caucus and Conservatives said, wait a minute, we fought to change this institution.

We want to have an amendment.

We want to change this and make it to where it includes the Sioux Act, which allows states to sue the federal government if the federal government doesn't secure the border.

They're like, man, well, so that's included now.

So what the president signed, because we fought for it, is a much better bill.

Mike Collins led, and God bless him.

We did that for Lake and Riley and their family.

And we now have a good bill.

That's how it works.

But we have to deliver.

And we've got to deliver on spending restraint.

Yes, tax cuts.

Absolutely.

But we can't not do math, Glenn.

And our guys want to walk in there and say, yeah, cut, cut, cut on taxes.

I'm all for it.

I'd like to cut them all.

Zero it out.

But then you got to go over to the other side of the ledger and do your part.

And if you're unwilling to do that, then you've got to answer to why you're for increasing the deficits.

This is the struggle Republicans are having right now, because if you fund these programs, then you're continuing to fund the demise of America.

I think you need to have

a lot of money.

I think you need to have Javier Millet come up and talk to you guys

because, I mean, he's done both.

He's cut the size of government, the spending,

and they are on a rocket ship right now.

Just a rocket ship.

Absolutely.

And look, I think President Trump is taking the steps necessary to get us put on that rocket ship, but we've got to get Congress to fully release the shackles and to lay out the groundwork for us to do it.

Again, we've got, you know, right now we're bleeding $2 trillion a year in deficit, Glenn, $2 trillion.

And right now, interest payments are going up because we're borrowing more and interest rates are going up.

So it's getting worse.

If we do nothing, it's getting worse.

If we then extend the tax cuts from 2017, which I want to do, we've got to do the math.

Because you and I both know that $800 billion in child tax credits, because that's how much it is, those don't pay for themselves.

So you've got to come over here and say, wait a minute, we've got to reduce spending over here.

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Who should oppose that?

Right.

You work if you want to be on Medicaid.

You've got to have work requirements.

So we've got things that would save $120 billion, like ending the EV mandates, like getting rid of student loans, but also other Medicaid reforms.

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In 60 seconds, I'm going to tell you a story you have never heard before.

It is a story of David and Goliath.

It is a story of a small

tech firm here in America started back in the 1990s, develops a chip, develops this technology that literally changes everything.

Except the big tech company, Goliath, comes in with even a bigger giant, the United States government.

The tech is stolen by this big tech company.

It's then transferred to China, and the government endorses it, covers it up.

If this is allowed to stand, this is a story that has been in the works since the early 2000s.

You've never heard this story, and my guess is, I'm going to ask, but my guess is because we didn't have a government, DOJ, or anybody that you could trust until possibly now.

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I want to introduce you to Jeffrey Parker.

He's the CEO and chairman of Parker Vision.

He has been sitting on this story for a long time.

Am I correct on why you haven't said anything?

You are correct, Glenn.

Okay.

We are at the beginning of seeing corruption exposed like never before, I think, in America.

This story, first of all, what did you invent that changed the world?

So we have a team I pulled together of inventors, and we invented the connectivity technology that connects your smartphone to the cell phone tower, connects the Wi-Fi in your home to other devices.

It's so small and so efficient that it's what's enabled the tiny little Bluetooth headset that goes in your ear.

Wow.

Before ParkerVision, all these wireless connectivity products had big hundreds of components, a lot of size, low power, high power consumption, low battery life.

Right.

And so we were able to put all that on a tiny little computer chip about half the size of your little fingernail.

What do you suppose that's worth now, that patent?

Oh, well, many, many, many, many billions, if not tens of billions of dollars.

Okay.

Because it's used by everybody now.

There is not a smartphone, a Wi-Fi product, a Bluetooth product, even the radar in your automobile that doesn't use this technology.

Okay, so you invented that, and you knew you had something big, and Qualcomm came to you and said, show us this new technology.

Well, actually, we were looking for a partner.

Okay.

So we approached them.

And this is around 1999, 2000.

They were at the time a much smaller company, but growing fast.

They were an emerging tech tech giant.

And they had the idea of connecting the internet to your cell phone through their standard, which I thought was pretty brilliant.

But the problem they had was that the radio transceiver that connected it all was like the size of a small shoebox.

So while we were walking around with phones like the size of a candy bar, their phones were like much bigger.

And the batteries would last 20 minutes.

So everybody's going to be able to get a lot of stuff.

It's like going to the old 1990s and 1980s cell phones.

Right.

So we said, oh, here is the connectivity technology that gives their cell phones the ability to compete and yet still have all the features that they were trying to bring to market.

And when they saw our chip and tested it in a lab,

they were crazy about it.

They were like, how are you doing this?

Right.

So you signed NDAs, you went into negotiation with them, and what happened?

Glenn, even special NDAs.

We were very concerned because we knew what a big big breakthrough.

I mean, we thought at the time, and today even stronger feel, this was one of the biggest breakthroughs in wireless communications ever.

I mean, for 100 years, we built wireless communications before this technology the same way, same circuits.

So we made them not just sign NDAs, we made each individual who was going to get the disclosure how this technology worked personally sign the NDAs.

Where do you live?

What's your phone number?

We wanted to be able to track and keep it to a very small group of people.

And so they didn't like that at the beginning, but they eventually said, okay, we'll do it.

Okay.

And so you go and they test it.

They know how it works.

And when does the negotiation fall apart?

Well, here's what's crazy about it.

So after they saw the performance, they said, we would love to license this and put it in our chips.

And, but they said, we can't license it until we know how it works because we don't know what we're licensing.

So we said, okay, you're under this special non-disclosure.

We'll do it.

We go and we have an off-site meeting with them, with just the people in the company who had signed the NDAs, and we disclose how we do this.

And after the first hour of what was a couple-day meeting, they stop the meeting.

And the guy who is the business development manager takes me out into a hallway and he says to me, wow,

you're not going to believe what we thought you had put into that chip.

And I said, what do you think we put into that chip?

We thought you had built a micro-machine.

A micro-machine micro-machine glands, like little tiny components that move in semiconductors.

This is back like in 1999 now.

And what he didn't contemplate was we had figured out how to do this using standard capacitors, switches, standard electronic components.

I mean, this technology could have been built in vacuum tubes 100 years earlier.

That's how revolutionary it was.

Didn't require new materials.

So he was explaining, wow, we were so impressed with this.

We sure it had to be something, you know, and like outer space type technology.

Right.

But now that we know that it's so easy to make now that we know, exactly.

Right.

So we've had this licensing negotiation.

And every time we got to kind of an agreement point, they would change the deal.

And this happened again and again, almost over a year.

And at some point I said, you know, I've done business with other companies.

I've had relationships with large companies.

We brought some of the first semiconductors to heating air conditioning controls and had a partnership with Carrier Corporation, and it was great.

But this one didn't feel right.

And so we went our separate ways.

And after that, it was a few years later, they come out with this new lineup of chips for smartphones.

And their market share was like around 30-some percent, and it was actually falling.

And they come out with these new chips, and they are

unbelievable in performance and low power consumption and fast data rates.

And I'm looking at these going, what have they got in there?

Now, to get into a chip and reverse engineer it to see for sure

is like looking for a needle in a haystack.

And it can cost you many millions of dollars and you never find out.

So we kind of just had to hold our breath and we thought, well, maybe they can't put their own alternative technology.

But we couldn't see anything else that they might be doing.

Few years go by and a conference paper is published by one of their groups, their engineering groups, and they're bragging about a new cell phone chip where they put an entire third third-generation cell phone on a tiny chip, the whole thing, like a cell phone on a chip, everything.

And at the heart of that chip, by their own conference paper, is our technology.

So, what did you do then?

Well, I went to attorneys and I went to my patent attorney, who's been one of the most successful patent attorneys in the country, and I said,

Rob,

we just discovered this.

What do we do?

And he goes,

We're going to, by the way, he sits on our board of directors.

He's told me many times, he says, you know, in a patent attorney's career, if you get three real breakthroughs in the whole career, you're pretty, he says, this is one of my breaks.

So he wanted to sit on our board of directors.

So I go to him as a board member and a patent attorney.

And he says, we're going to have to file a patent lawsuit.

And I said, well, can't we just go and talk to him?

And he's like, he's like, no, that would not be wise.

So we filed a lawsuit in 2011

and

all kinds of fireworks started then.

I mean, it was crazy.

But to cut to the quick, within two years, we were at trial.

It was pretty efficient.

And what happened in Discovery was a real eye-opener.

The law firm, actually here in Dallas, Texas, a firm called McCool Smith.

known for handling a lot of patent litigations for patent holders.

And about a year into the case, getting ready for trial, they call me up and they say, say, Jeff, you know, when we have a client come in, tell us a story, and they leave, we talk about it as a group and we say, gee, if half that story is true, it's probably a pretty amazing case.

We just got the emails from Discovery.

Your entire story is in their emails.

We have never seen anything like this.

What does that mean, your entire story?

So that what you said was happening.

Well,

Glenn, I was worried, you know,

when we broke off the negotiation, went our separate ways, I had this suspicion,

and my suspicion was founded.

So we take it to their lab, they test it, they send around emails to each other.

Oh, my gosh, we can make a better phone with their chips today than what we're currently shipping.

These were prototypes.

This is the holy grail of RF.

We must get our hands on this technology.

This is an email sent by the president of the company around to everybody.

And then we start to see the engineers

are a little upset, right?

Because they've got these engineers being paid a lot of money to run a big R ⁇ D lab.

And here's this little startup company.

And they're like, well, do we really want to give them free money?

Jeez.

Quote, free money.

So we walk in with one of the biggest advances in wireless, and their view is it's free money.

And by the way, we spent hundreds of millions to develop this.

This wasn't like two guys in a garage.

So anyway, ultimately, I saw in their emails where they're saying, hey, don't tell him how good this is.

Keep him down.

We want him to be, you know,

we don't want to help him.

And then ultimately they say, oh, don't tell him how much money we're going to make on these chips.

And that's kind of what broke off the negotiations is they said to me, well, where do you get your royalty rate from?

And I said, I calculated the money you're going to make on these chips.

And they say, oh, no, you're assuming our margins are much higher than they really are.

They're like half of that.

Well, in the emails, you know what they said?

Don't tell Jeff Parker.

He thinks our margins are X percent.

It's really even more than that.

So, you know, this whole suspicion that I had is right in their emails.

Right.

But the email that's really the smoking gun is they took a few years to try to develop their own technology after we broke it off.

And a few years later, there's two engineers on email talking and they're like, how are we going to do the next generation chip?

We've got to keep our company moving in the right direction.

And they say, you know what?

Let's just go back and look at the Parker Vision technology.

And you have that in writing.

You have those.

These are the emails that the jury saw in our first case.

Okay, so the jury hears this.

They come back

united on a verdict.

Unanimous.

Unanimous.

Qualcomm has done wrong, has got to pay you.

Yes.

The judge comes out and says that.

Yes.

But then something happens with the Obama administration and Eric Holder gets involved.

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I can't imagine what your life has been like for the last 10 years sitting on this story, waiting for an opportunity for justice to be done.

So the judge comes out and says,

Qualcomm's going to have to make amends here and pay.

We're going to come out in a couple of weeks with the judgment on that.

The jury was in lockstep.

Qualcomm has stolen your technology.

And then what happens?

So the judge

tells both Parker Vision and Qualcomm, you guys need to get together.

and make my job easy.

Tell me what should the ongoing royalty be.

So go off, you know, how much do you have to pay pay for each unit that you use for the future use.

And by the way, get it to me within 30 days.

There was a sense of urgency.

He wanted to close the case.

Well, nine days after we were asked to do that, there's a fundraiser at the chairman of the board of Qualcomm's home.

President Obama is the chief speaker, the lead speaker at that fundraiser.

By the way, the chairman of the board of Qualcomm has been a longtime supporter of President Obama, going way back.

And

eight, nine days after that fundraiser, there's a visit to Parker Vision's website.

How do I know that?

For years and years, we've used a product called Lead Lander, which is a service you subscribe to, and they look at all your visitors, and we use it for marketing.

Oh, this person's interested.

Let's call them up.

Maybe they want to do something.

Well, I go on my computer like I do every day, and I'm going through the visitors, and I see Qualcomm visited.

Oh, that's interesting.

They visited a second time, huh?

That's unusual.

They visited a third time.

That's really unusual.

And Executive Office of the President of the United States.

And I paused and I'm like, what?

And you can click on that visit and see what did they look at.

And we had a lot of things to look at on our website.

Products, charities we sponsored, technologies

only looked at one thing: patent litigation against against Qualcomm.

That was it.

Wow.

Okay.

Four weeks later, the judge has his order entered.

And you could have knocked me over with a feather when 7.30 on a Monday morning, I get a phone call from someone who says, Jeff,

why is our stock price dropping out of the sky?

And I go, it is.

I mean, this market isn't even open.

And he says, I think it has something to to do with the judge's order.

And I go online and I look at the order, and he has reversed the jury verdict and thrown the case out.

I did not see that coming.

Our litigators did not see that coming.

When we left that courthouse after being told to negotiate an ongoing royalty,

and that courthouse was packed with people.

Why, what was his reason for doing that?

What did he say?

Basically, he decided after the fact after the jury's gone everybody's gone he decided that there was a term in our patent claim that needed to be defined and it needed to be defined in the only way it could be defined which by the way is completely unsupported by the patent and i'll explain that in a second in the only possible way that would read the infringement right out of the case

He basically decided that something called a capacitor, which is one of the components used in our technology, would perform down conversion from a radio signal to the data.

Glenn, without getting too technical, capacitors can't down convert.

It's physically not possible.

Okay?

And so that's how he did it.

And of course, Qualcomm had in their papers written to him, which is all, by the way, attorney argument, they never even put up a witness at trial on why they don't infringe.

So here we had on our side of the justice scale,

the patents, the emails,

the expert testimony that we gave from our expert.

I mean, there was loaded with information for the jury.

And on their side was attorney argument.

That was it.

So

how do you think this went down?

Do you have evidence of how this went down, you know, from the visit from the White House to the judge?

Well, look,

all we know are the facts of the White House visit,

the previous fundraiser about a week before that.

But then we started looking more carefully at our lead lander and we found something else that we had missed.

And that was a visit by the Department of Justice.

And we thought, huh, Department of Justice.

And then we started doing a deeper dive, and we came to realize they hadn't visited just once.

They had visited again and again and again and again.

And not on every visit, but on many of the visits, on the same day, Qualcomm was visiting, and the same number of pages was looked at.

So it's like they're having a conference call.

It's like they're having a conversation.

From about two or three months before the jury trial, until a couple years ago, there are 37 visits by the Department of Justice.

37 visits so it it the story gets even more twisted uh in a second uh and much more obvious when um

uh

a firm in washington dc a lobbying firm that um

eric holder worked at and works at now gets involved we'll talk about that and how you can help on this next

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He is from Parker Vision.

He is the CEO and chairman, and he's been telling a story that is absolutely amazing.

I mean, it is It's game-changing technology that this little firm invented, Qualcomm, according to him, and according to a jury, stole that technology, used that technology, gave that technology over in China

and never paid him.

Judge then,

after the jury verdict came back, he said, okay, you guys got to work out a deal.

And then a few weeks later, after Obama met with Qualcomm and you got the DOJ involved, suddenly the judge flips.

Here's a little

snippet of a video that was released this morning at 7.30 Central Time, just right before the market opened, explaining what's going on.

It's called Against Underscore Giants.

Listen.

We're explaining to him we're going to have a new chip.

It's going to have this amazing level of performance.

This radio signal that we're putting into this tiny little circuit board with a chip on this board that's like half the size of your little fingernail.

A radio signal when it goes from, let's say, a cell phone tower to your phone, doesn't show up in great condition.

There's all kinds of noise that has been accumulated along the way.

So we've got this noisy signal going in and out the other side of this chip is coming beautiful data bits, ones and zeros.

We see this technology as being the enabling technology for wireless communication.

What we didn't see was that it would be stolen.

Never in my wildest imagination did I ever see that coming.

There was a company that I didn't know anything about called Qualcomm.

If you look at history, almost all innovations come from small companies.

And when big tech gets a hold of it, they're just out of the picture.

We had this off-site meeting.

They came out of that meeting very, very excited.

When they explained what they were doing, I go, man, that sounds a lot like what this engineer had described to me.

David looked at it and said, wow, they're using our stuff.

And then came time to get lawyers involved to say, okay, we believe that Qualcomm was infringing.

We filed the lawsuit in 2011.

In about two years, we were at trial.

And so, this first trial, after we filed the lawsuit, was pretty quick.

We were there for two weeks and we received a unanimous jury verdict.

They found in favor of Parker Vision.

We ended up getting the ninth largest jury verdict.

Everybody leaves the courthouse excited.

There's going to be an ongoing royalty.

The judge is going in our direction.

Away we go to the next steps.

The judge enters his final order, reverses the jury verdict, and throws the case out.

What happened between those two points?

What happened between those two points is the Obama administration, it appears,

and now let me bring Eric Holder into this because the DOJ keeps going to your website, is checking on all of this right after the fundraiser with Qualcomm and Barack Obama.

And he comes from

a firm in Washington that is actually

represents Qualcomm.

Yes.

Yes.

Well, one of the largest lobbying lobbying firms in Washington is the law firm of Covington and Burling.

Qualcomm has been one of their largest customers for a long time.

And the

Attorney General of the United States under Obama comes from Covington and Burling.

It's Eric Holder.

And then when Eric Holder retires from the government, he goes back to Covington and Burling, where he is to this day.

So we have visits

when Eric Holder is Attorney General.

They start and they continue on for years and years.

Candidly, up until the time I filed a Freedom of Information Act request to ask, number one, who from the White House was visiting our website?

Who?

We know the computer's inside the White House, but we don't know exactly whose computer.

It's different DOJ sites that come to our website.

But many of the days, Qualcomm is on the website, and they're looking at the same number of pages.

So we wanted to know, is there some collaboration going on here?

Is Qualcomm and the DOJ talking about ParkerVision for some reason?

If so, we'd like to know what that's all about.

You know, I don't get an opportunity to have special access.

Right.

So

we never got that FOIA.

Never produced it.

Never produced it.

No.

We were told different stories.

One party who tried to help us with the FOIA said that they told them they lost it.

An attorney told me you can't.

I dog ate my homework.

you can't lose a FOIA.

You get a case number, it can't be lost.

Another party told me, oh, you were supposed to give them more information and you didn't do it, so they closed the case.

I mean, it's excuse after excuse.

And candidly, when I've watched other people within our own government try to get their FOIAs fulfilled, people who are sitting members of Congress, and they can't get them filled, I'm saying, well, how am I going to get mine done?

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Well, the reason why you haven't heard this story at home is because he's been doing all of this with a very hostile government,

and things are changing.

And, you know, I would ask, I know Pam, and I know a lot of the people that are now going to be in charge of this stuff.

And I'm going to reach out personally.

If you happen to know anybody in the administration, have them look at this.

All you have to do is go to Against Underscore Giants on X.

Just search for it on X or Instagram.

They're going to release several of these videos making the entire case.

This needs to be investigated.

This needs to be opened.

This is, why is this important just beyond you and your little company?

Why is this important?

Look, Glenn,

the news this week was about how China now has come out with AI that's now leading our AI that's better than our AI.

A lot of questions where they got it, how they got it, but here's the deal.

Huge.

A lot of big tech companies went to China.

initially to get cheap manufacturing labor.

But then the Chinese Communist Party said, no, no, if you want to do business in China, you got to bring your engineers.

You have to set up shop to develop products here.

And you have to show us how it is made.

You must turn over your intellectual property.

Correct.

Look, you can't make these kinds of chips without our technology.

Huawei, Qualcomm just acknowledged in their own report a month or two ago, now has their own 5G chipset.

They don't need a single chip from the West.

How did Huawei come to develop their own chips?

Well, I can tell you how.

If you look at LinkedIn, you'll find engineers who worked in Qualcomm facilities in China and other places are now working at Huawei.

I found an engineer just the other day who moved from Qualcomm in the exact space of our technology, radio frequency transceivers, is now at Huawei and Hi Silicon, which is their semiconductor company.

So, of course, our intellectual property is moving to places that we don't want it to exist.

There's a story out in a Taiwanese magazine called Digitimes.

I don't know if it's accurate, but it claims that Qualcomm has 5,000 R ⁇ D engineers in China.

This is cheap labor.

That's intellectual labor.

Yeah, we're not just shipping off our manufacturing jobs.

We're shipping off

our ideas.

And how do you protect those ideas if you hand them over?

This is, you know, I've been talking about this for a few days now, and it's been a theme of mine for probably 30 years about what's coming with AGI and ASI, which is absolutely game-changing.

People do not have any idea that by 2030, you won't recognize anything.

You may not even understand the solutions that are being developed every single day for your life.

And

it is so important.

that we own that, that we're in charge of it.

I don't even trust us with it, quite honestly.

But if you don't have the right people in charge of it, God forbid it goes to China, we're toast.

Well, listen, you have a good right to be worried.

If our large tech companies, big tech, are willing to take these kinds of intellectual property overseas and put them in China, India, Taiwan.

where we have no control, you can only imagine what could happen.

And if they get ahead of us in this race, we're in big trouble.

Yeah, people are comparing it to the space race.

That's not even,

that's baby stuff compared to what this is.

I mean, it was a big accomplishment, but that changed the world in many ways.

This

is

the Manhattan Project on massive steroids.

Glenn, the other area of our economy that a lot of people don't really understand,

many of the biggest innovations ever.

In fact, I'd say most, don't come from giant tech companies.

They come from individual innovators and small companies.

And our government is failing those companies.

That is a story that needs to get out there because if, look, China has a very robust startup economy right now.

This is why they're

beating us.

We have to reinvigorate that.

You can't reinvigorate that when you take the Parker visions of the world and you demonstrate your patents are worthless.

We're not going to defend them.

The patent office itself has become hostile to patent holders through a whole special patent court that was set up during the Obama administration.

I remember it.

I won't go into that detail.

And then last but not least, we let big tech companies crush these little emerging

crush these emerging companies.

And you know what the consequence is?

Nothing.

Nothing.

You get to spend yourself into oblivion and litigation.

And even if you win, which we did, then somehow, some way you lose.

Yeah.

I will tell you that, you know, the reason why America is America is because of Ben Franklin.

He was an inventor.

Thomas Jefferson was an inventor.

They developed the patent system.

Said these big corporations could not come in and crush you and just take it.

It was your property, your intellectual property.

That's why...

we raced ahead of everyone because the individual who had an idea could make a better mousetrap and actually see the gain from it.

It wasn't taken by the state or by a lord or a lady or whoever.

We've crushed that now.

If we don't clear up all of this garbage, all of this corruption in our DOG, in all of our government, We are going to lose.

And you're right.

I think it's, Stu, do you remember?

It's like 80% of all jobs in a down economy

are created by small companies.

You don't have an economy, at least in America, without all of these small companies.

And

they're on their heels right now.

We have to protect them in any way that we can.

By the way, one last thing on this.

This is exactly what Eisenhower talked about in his farewell address.

In his farewell address, he said, you know, there's a vast industrial, military-industrial complex.

That's not all he warned about.

He warned about a vast education complex as well.

He diagnosed exactly what we're in right now, but he said there will come a time if we allow the government to get out of control where all inventors, all ideas will come from government or educational laboratories, and the small guy who just has an idea in his garage will not be able to compete or

keep his ideas.

We're there.

That's why this matters.

I want you to find this information.

I want you to call your congressman

and we are going to make sure this gets in front of Pam Bandi and everybody else because this is a really big deal.

We have to have small inventors.

You can find out more at parkervision.com.

You can go to Twitter or

Instagram and just search for against underscore giants and find out all of the information.

We will talk again.

Thank you for having me.

Thank you.

Jeffrey Parker, Parker Vision, CEO and Chairman.

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So as I was telling you about what happened at Parker Vision, Stu has been monitoring the president's press conference.

I mean,

everybody will accept Fox is saying that, you know, Trump is blaming DEI without any evidence.

That's not exactly what he said.

He said it could be, but we don't know yet.

He sort of listed the possible reasons that this could have occurred.

Even terrorism.

I don't know if he listed terrorism.

I know there's been some speculation initially on that, but I don't think that's what happened here.

But, you know, it's one of those situations where they're going to come after him.

They're going to attack him and try to

make him look bad.

But at the end of the day,

it is a long-standing problem that there have been a lot of contributing factors to.

This documentary that I did, Countdown to the next aviation disaster, it's up on YouTube.

It's on my Twitter feed as well.

You go through this.

I talked to a guy who was an air traffic controller for like 30, 35 years.

And he was talking about all the problems.

He's documented them over a long period of time.

All these problems.

I mean, you just think about it this way.

DEI doesn't necessarily mean you're hiring someone who's incompetent, who is a person of color per se, right?

Could be, but also could just be someone who's absolutely competent.

But if you aren't hiring white people who are also competent, you wind up with the problem of being understaffed.

I talked to a guy who got a perfect score.

a perfect score on the test to become an air traffic controller, but they added a second test, which was a biographical test, which was questions about his race and questions about his history in certain school subjects and things like this.

And you'd think, okay, well, school subjects might have some relevance.

No, it's the opposite.

It's the opposite.

If you do well in science, you got docked points on this.

Right.

Because they were trying to push out all of the standard people who were going for this role.

We lost a lot of competent people over a long period of time.

Well, I have to tell you,

Trump used to own an airline.

Yeah.

He knows this business.

And,

you know, I trust him more on this than I do the reporter from ABC News.

I'm just saying this is part of the reason why he was elected.

Believe me, we'll get to the bottom of it, and it will be fixed.

This is Glenn Beck.