Ep 239 | The Gen Z ‘King’ Keeping Georgia Boys Off the Streets | The Glenn Beck Podcast

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King, I am thrilled to have you on the program.

I'm glad to be here, man.

Good to see you.

Good to see you.

I saw, I don't even remember when it was.

I know you had some viral videos because of Elon Musk,

but I saw a video of you teaching young kids how to repair a sink or plumbing or something and auto.

And I was just so inspired by what you were doing because you're how old?

25?

Yeah, I'm 25, yep.

25 years old.

First of all, let's just start at the beginning.

What is X for boys?

Sure.

So it's funny because Elon has named everything X now, but our organization was founded in 2019, January.

I was 19 years old when I first started this work with the children.

I started out taking them on different field trips, taking them to different history museums, et cetera, because most of our kids, we have an issue in our hometown with reading.

And I discovered that after I noticed when I did a summer camp at my house,

maybe like 15 out of the 20 kids could not read.

That was a huge issue for me.

What age kids are you talking about?

11 to 17.

Ages 11 to 17.

These are kids that are all in different grades, et cetera.

So I started this organization because I'm just like, okay, we need to help combat that.

We keep talking about the crime, et cetera.

We have all these stop the violence meetings every time something happens in our hometown.

It's a small town, but every time something happens, everybody wants to go to these stop the violence meetings or whatever, and then they leave and that's it.

I'm just like, no, guys, like we have to do something consistently to be able to affect these children and their parents because the way we're looking, we're going to keep going downhill.

So I decided to actually do something about it instead of talking about it.

At 19, at 19 years old.

I was so self-absorbed and so stupid at 19.

Tell me about your parents.

Where does this come from?

Yeah, my mom.

I was raised with my stepdad.

My mom, her name is Tamika.

She's raised me for most of my life.

Her and my stepdad, he's the one who taught me how to do all the stuff like welding and taking care of animals.

We grew all of our own food at home.

So we

grew all of our own food for years.

We never didn't not grow food.

Even seasonings, like we grew everything.

We ate chickens, our chickens, eggs from outside, everything.

And he taught me how to like, you know, we used to shoot squirrels, whatever, a really, really country lifestyle.

So he taught me all that.

And I kind of pushed that onto.

A lot of the young men.

Many of the young men that were in my neighborhood, it was a community over there, even though we weren't in the best neighborhood.

You had the guy down the street from us, Mr.

David.

He taught us how to lay bricks.

If you go in our neighborhood right now, you know, there are brick mailboxes and we did that when we were younger because he taught us how to do it.

We bricked in garage doors, whatever, to close, you know, close off garages.

Then you had the guy behind us.

His name is Deacon Bogan.

He's a deacon at a church.

And I met him when I was at a summer camp in my hometown at a church.

And I used to get in trouble.

He's always put me in timeout.

But one day he had to take me home.

And so he took me home and he was like, son, I literally live in the house directly behind you.

Like, so we became close after that.

To this day, we're still super close.

And that was about when I was like nine or 10.

But we were still super close.

I always go see him.

So he turned in like a granddad.

So, he taught us how to cut grass and weed eat and do all that stuff because we had this running joke that Deacon Bogan would cut his grass every single day because he had nothing else to do.

Like, so he had his big yard, and he would just be out there every single day doing something, didn't matter.

So, um, we had a real community in our neighborhood.

The guy across the street from me, uh, Mr.

Silas, he drove trucks, so we used to see him sometime.

My stepdad used to have Bible study with the kids in our neighborhood at the house.

They would all come to the house on Wednesdays or whatever, and we would do Bible study in the house, like in the room on the floor.

Um, so those are things I saw growing up so I'm assuming in my immaturity that everywhere is like this yeah so when I start seeing kids doing other stuff as an adult and they don't know how to change oil to change brakes I'm like we did this for fun right you know so I started teaching kids and I started doing it for free um I've never charged for anything that we've done in our program um I learned how to cut hair and fix cars like just to

support what we were doing in the organization.

That's where we started out from the beginning.

And before we had any donors, any social media publicity or whatever, like that's what we were doing, like just at my house in the living room doing stuff um from my dining room i had bought this small dry erase board from staples uh we had got some donated tables and man like and i'll send you the pictures too but uh this i still have pictures of all this stuff but i was never doing videos or posting or anything so um that's this is where we started um and and here we are now how how did you was it hard to convince young men to come over and learn how to do stuff it's not hard when they don't have anything else to do um and then on top of that you know when i first started the parents were looking for something for their kids to get into because in our hometown, we don't have many livable wage jobs, so a lot of these parents are working two and three jobs, and their kids just are at home raising themselves and they're trying to make ends meet.

So, the one thing they could do is try to find after school, but after school usually charges.

So, I'm one of the only after-school programs that's just free, and you could just send your kids, sign them up, and you know, we'll make it happen, we'll feed them and everything.

Um, so yeah, so what we're trying to do now is get our program to a point where our after school is every single day from at least four or excuse me, two o'clock to nine o'clock when they get out of school to their parents get off of work.

two o'clock to nine we want it to be every single day um because these kids are outside and they're raising themselves and social media is aiding um aiding their termination in my opinion these kids are out killing themselves and it's and it's not just because they don't have well-meaning parents or not fathers in the home they're working all day um and our hometown is is a it bears a witness to social media is poison it's straight poison i try to tell people about it yeah so again let me go back to x why is it called x X stands for unknown.

It's like a math equation.

We're solving for X.

That's what we said.

That's cool.

Yeah.

Okay.

So your hometown, how many people in it?

Our population has went down, so we're about 67,000 people now.

67?

Yeah, we were about 80-something thousand.

And over the last 10 years, we've dropped every single year.

Bad crime?

So this is what I have to say about crime in the city of Albany.

People mask it and say it like it's just bad crime going on all the time in Albany.

And it's not necessarily that way.

Albany is a great place to live.

However, when something bad does happen, it gets broadcasted and it's just everywhere.

But for reality, most people that live in Albany enjoy living in the town.

It's just we don't have many things to do.

We don't have many things to get into.

No major factories or industry, maybe like two factories.

And we have a Marine base there too.

But other than that,

people don't have anything to do.

But for me, living in Albany, yeah, we have crime, but we have a great police department our city uh leaders uh lack marketing ability um the reason city morale is down um because you are incredible yeah they just love you thank you city morale is down because our leaders don't know how to market to the public because um for a long time our local school system we've always had this we hate the school system thing because of the kids can't read etc and we have a very forward-thinking superintendent his name is kenneth dyer and um but we me and him actually got into it a couple years ago because i didn't know these things that they are doing inside of our school system.

So we're really close now.

We talk and

that's water under the bridge.

But I've been going to these different meetings around my hometown to see how things work in actuality versus just listening to what people are saying online about Albany.

And our school system has something so beautiful.

I've told them before, I said, I don't understand why aren't you guys marketing this?

This is beautiful stuff.

They do free health care for kids.

They make sure the kids get dental and vision.

They also make sure that the kids are transported.

They have uh the dental clinics and vision clinics inside the schools and they will transport the kids there they also have a program called uh level up where parents who don't have good paying jobs they will pay for them to take classes and excavators uh you know um nursing etc and if those parents have kids they will also put those kids in daycare and make sure the parents and kids have transportation so they can learn all these different trades so that way they can actually have a job where they're able to spend time with their kids.

They offer free food

in the summertime for the kids.

They also grow all of their own greens.

They have a hydropon.

It's a greenhouse in our hometown where they grow all the food for the kids.

You didn't know any of this.

I didn't know any of this.

And I've had this conversation with them.

I said, guys, like people drag you guys out and y'all never respond.

And I'm just like.

Even though you may not feel like you need to, city morale is down here.

People need to know you guys are doing your job.

Same with our police department.

I didn't know they had solved almost every homicide that's happened in our hometown.

I didn't know they had all this new technology.

They got this technology now where if a gunshot happens, nobody has to even call the police.

They have these gunshot detection systems where it automatically sends the police a text to go ahead and go over there because there's a gunshot been detected in a certain neighborhood.

Nobody has to call the police.

Who knows about this?

Nobody.

You know, so I'm just like, how can we market better to our community that our city leaders are trying to do their job?

Now, there's a difference with our like local city commission and our county commission.

Those are, that's a different field.

I don't know exactly what's going on with them, but for the most part, our school system, our police department, they're doing fantastic.

They're trying to do a fantastic job.

And our school system is actually trying to catch up from COVID.

They keep blaming our school system for the kids not being able to read.

He like, guys, the kids are back for grades.

I know.

He's like, we trying, but people aren't looking at the stats.

They put the data up and these kids, their levels are going up every year.

It just takes time.

You have to give them a moment.

So

we had this guy in our hometown today.

At the school board meeting, he actually went up there fussing about the, you know, the low test scores that came out about a couple of the schools.

And I'm just like, you have no clue what these people are really in here doing.

You don't think they see that?

You don't think they're trying to make this better for the kids, especially with taxpayers.

And on top of that, they've been actually dropping taxes every year on purpose because they want people to have their money and not have to be paying in a property tax because they're doing such a good job with the school system.

Our superintendent is a former accountant.

So he has a lot of leftover money, et cetera, or whatever.

We have this political leadership class.

He came and talked to us about all this stuff.

So it's all about getting the community engaged.

I used to be one of those people when I first started my organization that, oh, we don't need politics.

I'm not going to worry about that.

And we're just going to do this work with these kids.

And as they get older, we'll figure it out.

But as I've been going to these different meetings and going to all the county commission meetings and the city commission meetings and checking out our mayor and

the board meetings or whatever, I've been at all of them.

I'm on three boards now in my hometown.

And

everything that they're doing right now, it all slowly starts to affect our kids.

Right.

So I'm just like, and all these boards, I'm the youngest person, of course.

Everybody up there has to be over 60 for the most part you know and they're all on these boards i'm on the historic preservation commission now i'm on

the what historic preservation committee so on our in our hometown we have these districts for the historic district yeah we have to approve and you know uh deny different things happening to the historic buildings right but that's important um because everybody on those boards or whatever they're older they don't care about newness and they don't hear any new opinions because nobody's at these meetings there are public meetings asking how many citizens come None.

Nobody's ever there.

Even so I've been being the voice for the people explaining like, hey, this is what's going on in the city right now.

This is what's been happening in the school system, this is what's been happening in the police department.

Um, even I'm on the civilian review board now for our Albany Police Department.

Everybody has all this trash to talk about our police department, but now I know everything that goes on in there because every first Wednesday of every month, I'm at the police department and they're debriefing us on everything that happens in regards to the police department.

Like, this little stuff, I didn't have to pay for it.

I just had to sign up to be on the board, and the commission appoints you to be on the board.

Simple stuff.

But I just want to encourage people, so it's like an accountability thing between us as citizens and our leaders, also, because we have a part to play as well as our leadership.

Now, our city does deserve leadership that have time to spend on making sure Albany is in good standing because leaderships,

their positions are part-time.

So they're doing other things during the day, but I don't have anything to do during the day.

I have time to spend at our hometown.

And that's what we're looking for.

I mean, you're a little overwhelming on

what you're doing.

Just trying to stay busy.

So tell me about,

you have this amazing interpretation

of Genesis.

Yes.

Tell me about this because I think this.

Everybody asked that.

It just opens up so many doors.

It does.

So the particular scripture, let us make man.

Yeah.

Let us make man in our image and in our likeness.

Yes.

You know, and again,

you know, for my, for my, for the viewers out there, I took a different spin on this for my organization.

I saw our motto, let us make man.

Our idea for me, when God said, let us make man, I feel like I should be assisting God with helping to make men.

I feel like a man, a boy can't be a man unless he sees a man.

So that's what I do.

I assist God with making men because he can't, I'm not saying he can't do it by himself, but he's going to use people to be able to actually help these kids because he's not going to come down and help them himself.

He's going to use people.

And people don't realize who God set in place to be able to help their community.

They don't realize the angels around them or the people around them to help their different communities, whether it be your chief of police, whether it be your city councilman, whatever.

So it's all in getting those God-fearing people in those positions to be able to help our community.

So that's where I feel about let us make man.

God's telling me to assist him with making men.

So that's what we're doing.

I have to tell you,

I've asked some of the best biblical scholars in the world.

What does that mean?

Let us make men.

And I've heard the craziest answers.

I've heard good answers.

Yeah, that's the best answer I've ever don't know if it's right, but that is the best answer.

Because I can apply it, even if it's not correct.

It may be talking about the Trinity or not, whatever you believe in, but it allows me to take some accountability for the way my community looks.

One thing that people do is try to

not take any responsibility for how our communities look.

I feel like if everybody, you know, just decided to figure out, how can I make somebody smile today every single day?

If everybody did that, I think our communities would be in a better place.

What can I do just one thing today to make the community better?

Even if it's just picking up the trash on the side of the road, what can I do to make our community better?

Can I go feed that homeless person across the street?

Or let me go make friends with that kid I always see walking home from school by themselves and let me go talk to their parents and say, hey, is it okay if we develop a relationship and I can take your son to school every day and, you know, help him out?

Because those little things matter.

Community is what's missing.

And so what's taking us away from community is cell phones.

I just made a video the other day about Thanksgiving dinner.

And I noticed because things are different now.

When you go to Thanksgiving dinner, everybody prays,

and then everybody splits up and go eat.

You know, one person's in the living room watching football, other person's here or whatever.

Back in the day, when you sat down for dinner, you were able to notice things about your kids.

You were able to notice things about your grandma.

You were able to notice things about your mom.

Why you look sad today?

Son, why your eyes red?

Like, what you been doing today?

You know, I can chastise my son now, or I can notice that my daughter may be feeling a little depression or something like that because I see she's been looking sad the last three dinners.

What's going on?

So we can get her the right help.

We don't even know what's going on with our family right now because we have family group chats, but we're not looking and spending time and absorbing what it is our family is going through.

We're also not.

When I was growing up,

man, if I heard one more story from my grandparents about the depression, I was just going to be like, okay, you know, you would hear the family stories over and over and over again.

Yep.

Families don't sit around and tell stories anymore.

You don't know who you are or where you came from.

Yep.

And history is so important.

It's so important.

My sons are all, you know, they are named, my son is named after me, of course, but my son William, he's named after my uncle that passed away.

One of our favorite uncles, you know, his name is Willie.

We named him William.

And

just teaching him about who he was, what did he do, etc.

Or my granddad's side of the family, we have about 10 men in our family named Floyd.

They refuse to allow the history of the family to be lost.

So every firstborn male from every child's name is Floyd.

Wow.

Every last one.

So we go to the family union.

We got Big Floyd, Lil Floyd, this Floyd, that Floyd.

Now they all got different little nicknames, but that's because they don't want to lose our great, great, great grandfather's legacy because all of the grandfather's name were Floyd.

Then I didn't realize I was the firstborn grandson of the last generation of kids.

So I got to have another son because his name has to be Floyd.

You know, they already been getting on to me about like, hey, you had three sons already.

You haven't named them Floyd.

Like, what's the problem?

But

that's what needs to happen.

Like, it wasn't like.

So what was it about the original floyd that everybody wanted to remember he built the family he built that side of the family like just listening to them talk about him uh you know rebuilding uh what they had going on from back in slavery times um from him sharecropping etc and just listening to this they always got stories about grenadier floyd like i mean they got stories for days they got pictures of them when they were little out there on the you know in the field with their dad and stuff like that and he was a big guy or whatever um so it was funny because my grandfather was the shortest of the bunch um but he was a big guy but all my uncles are like 6'8, you know, 6'6, big dudes.

And my granddad was like 5'11, 6 feet or whatever.

But I think my first son, he's gonna take some of that from their family because last year he was in my pocket.

And now he's at like my second button on my suit.

It was huge.

But yeah, like just we lost family and I think we've forgotten where we come from.

But on top of that, I will say some people hold on too much to where they come from because it's like people feel like this blind loyalty to their neighborhood or to act in a certain way, etc.

No, some of you need to forget where you came from because everybody has this little phrase of, make sure you don't forget where you came from.

Like, no, some people need to forget that.

Explain that.

Because, so we had this thing in the black community, like when you are getting popular or famous or playing football, everybody's like, all right, don't forget where you came from.

Like, don't forget everybody else over here or whatever like that.

No, some of that was hindering people.

Some of that was holding people back and trying to hold on to that toxicity you guys had going on.

They don't need that.

They need to forget that.

They need to loose themselves from the chains of you.

Because we can have chains from our neighborhoods.

We can't have chains from our family members that meant us no good.

Even just going through different traumas with our family members, some of that stuff you got to let go.

So you can move forward.

Because if you hold on to it, we got people 30, 35, 36, 37, still holding on to stuff from the childhood.

I'm just like, at this point, you are making your own decisions now.

And if you allow this to continue being your crutch, then this is your life.

That's it.

So you are so refreshing because

there doesn't seem to be a victim

here.

I mean, we all have stuff, and some have really bad stuff.

Some have, you know, everybody has something that they can whine about.

But it's, my father taught me, it's not what happens to you.

It's what you do with it.

Right.

You're either going to let it destroy you or it's going to, it will shape you one way or another, but you are the one in charge of what it's going to do.

Right.

So I'm going to talk about this really quickly because there's a big conversation about crying lately.

Crying?

Crying for me.

Yeah.

I haven't cried maybe in like eight or nine years yeah and it's not to a fault that i don't want to cry or i'm not capable of it i haven't i don't believe i've went through enough to be like oh i just need to cry today like because people have said oh well you just maybe you need to cry i'm just like but i don't i don't feel like crying like i don't i don't want to i don't i don't i don't need to if i if tears you know swell well swell up in my eyes or whatever and i need to cry tonight i will i'm like but the last time i cried was i was in the argument with my grandma like we was in like i was in 12th grade i believe uh in my senior year and i was arguing with my grandma she was just getting on my nerves and i just oh you know just angry.

But other than that, I hadn't had a reason to cry because I'm big on a serenity prayer.

I got a serenity prayer tattooed on me.

And I believe in that prayer on purpose, like on purpose because wait, wait.

The serenity prayer.

I know.

Why do you have, are you an alcoholic or was somebody in your, or you just found that prayer?

I can't remember when I first heard it, but I, it, it.

It shapes me.

It's who I am.

Like, I don't believe, if I can't fix something, I am not going to sit and hold on to it.

If I can't fix it, it's time for me to move on and just let it be.

But if I can fix it, let's let's fix it.

So I don't find a space in between there where I need to cry.

I'm like, I'm like, or I can fix it, or I can just leave it, leave it be.

And I believe in God, you know, so I'm just like, what am I crying about?

I don't, I don't understand.

You know, and I don't, I don't think anything's wrong with crying.

I will encourage kids: if you need to cry, cry, whatever.

I have no issue with that.

But for myself, you know, I don't, this is what I say.

People have gotten mad, and we talked about this before.

Our ancestors, you know, especially African Americans, they went through actual hell, true hell, from you know, the Jim Crow era to slavery.

They went through true hell.

Yeah, and they were still successful.

They still read better than us.

I read the Booker T.

Washington's book, Up From Slavery with the Kids, and I'm like, imagine a former slave having a better vocabulary than you do.

Like, it's insane.

And he got up every day had to teach himself how to read, etc.

We got Wi-Fi, beds, just we ain't got to worry about waking up in the middle of the night because a Ku Klux Klan come to get your granddad or none of that, none of that crazy stuff.

So I think it's a slap in the face to my ancestors to be walking around here with all this access to information, books, school etc and we running around here talking about we hurt something's going on ain't nothing going on it's no work ethic that's that's happening there and people love to try and act like you know there's we don't have to have work ethic or or black people just been held you know by the white man so even if we work hard you know no no no we need to know what it is that we need to be working hard on because you do got a lot of people with work ethic work ethic but what What are they working on?

Because some people will go work 10 hours at McBurger King doing the best job they can, but refuse to go spend that same 10 10 hours working on themselves at home.

And I'm just like, you can get yourself out of these situations.

Like, if I always say, there's like, oh, well, black people, you know, they don't have access to this and that.

Okay, cool.

If he can go work eight, nine hours at somebody's job, he has the ability to go home and work on his own stuff.

Period.

This is what I've done with my organization.

I literally, like, when I wanted the organization to happen, I made it happen.

I got up every day.

I would go cut hair and all in the middle of the night.

I would go change starters and go change, you know, fuel pumps or whatever.

I would go paint houses with my brother, et cetera.

And we would make our money like that.

And I would use that money to pay the bills at the house with my kids and then make sure everything was squared away.

I was able to do this at 19 years old.

You mean to tell me like, we just, we just dumb and stupid, huh?

Like, that's what I tell people.

They're like, oh, well, black people aren't able to.

I'm like, you don't realize how much.

That's actual white supremacy because you have made yourself believe that we are incapable of doing anything better.

We are incapable of trying to better ourselves.

The only way we could do better is if white people help us do it.

So, so in honesty, yeah, white people are supreme over you, but they're not supreme over me.

That's not what I believe.

I believe that I can go and do stuff.

And they're like, oh, well, we can't be racist because black people aren't in positions.

We got black mayors, black city councilmen, et cetera, et cetera.

So can they be racist now?

Like, it's these stupid things we talk about all the time, you know, they resonate in our community and we truly believe some of the things that's going on.

And I'm like, did you ever believe any of that stuff?

Absolutely.

I used to hate white people.

Like, when I was like...

You wait, wait, wait.

You hated white people?

Oh, yeah.

I hated white people.

Like, my 16, 17.

You got to think when I was in high school, Donald Trump became president.

I was in high school at the time.

You got to think I was on, you know, Instagram, Facebook, whatever.

And of course, everybody's posting all this bad stuff about, you know, Donald Trump or whatever like that.

So I'm just like, oh, man, he racist, you know, blah, blah, blah.

It's like, you're not doing any research.

You're a kid.

Whatever.

You know what's so funny?

I know Donald Trump and all I keep, I've been listening to you for the last five minutes.

And all I keep thinking is, I have to introduce you to Donald Trump.

He will love you.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I took a picture with him one time.

I think we were in Tennessee.

Good.

So you know each other.

I don't know each other.

I think it was one of those things where we could take a picture with him.

Oh, okay.

But

I introduced myself, but he probably don't remember.

But

where was I?

You were saying when you were 16, Donald Trump was a racist.

Donald Trump was the president, right?

I remember I was working at Chick-fil-A.

I remember the day he got elected.

It felt like the world was about to end.

Like, because of how they

made it seem, you know, in the media and on social media, whatever.

Like, I mean, it was terrible.

Like, it's like it was cloudy that day and everybody at work was just all meh and like we were we were upset we were so sad I never forget

when we went to

Blexit had an event at the White House with Donald Trump and we brought some of our students in 2020 October 2020 because Donald Trump had COVID at the time President Trump and we went there and all the love that we received from Republicans and from people you know on that side I'd never seen anything like it in my life We were these kids.

We had our all black, you know, extra boys outfits on or whatever.

Everybody's wondering who we were.

So I was telling them about the work I was doing.

And it's just like, man, like, this is amazing.

People started, you know, giving to our organization, et cetera.

And so ever since then, I've noticed that, you know, the most people that have given us the most hate and terror and the most pushback is people that look just like me because I don't necessarily think like the status quo.

Black people have this thing where if you don't think like everybody else, then you must be an immigrant.

There's no way you're a black American thinking like this or you're a coon, you know, all the names or whatever.

And after we got invited to the White House,

my tune started to shift because I'm just like,

these people, I hadn't received any hate the whole time.

And I told them exactly what I do.

Cause at that time, I was only working with black kids.

And I was like, well, we're working for black, you know, we got black kids.

We're teaching them how to do this and that.

It's like, we don't care.

Like, this is amazing.

Like, you're doing some great work.

It was a shocker to me because I had been begging to get to other, you know, meetings, other Democrat senators.

Like, I couldn't get no meetings.

Nobody wanted to talk to us.

Nobody wanted to help in a major way.

These people don't even know us, and they were pouring love.

So, we did this one video with this guy named Siaka Masaqua.

I'm not sure if you know who he is, but he did a video with us at the White House, and it went miniviral online, and people found out who we were.

And then I took this class with a friend of mine, his name is Brother Ben X.

He taught me how to utilize social media to push what I was doing.

He actually taught me, like, this is what you do, this is how you post.

You need to post what you're doing because people need to see this work all around the world.

Never forget, as soon as I started posting on Twitter or whatever, we just started circulating immediately because people had never seen what we've been doing, you know, across the country on a consistent basis with these kids.

And mind you, I started boarding them at one point during COVID.

These kids came to live with me in my, in my living room on some bunk beds.

Like, that's, that's how truly passionate I was about trying to fix these kids.

Um, it's, it's, it's been a long journey.

Because you, you, you have taken kids out of abusive homes.

Absolutely.

Right?

Yeah, absolutely.

We've had so many stories from molestation to starvation to just physical abuse.

The stories I've heard, man, it's like, they're not shocking anymore.

They're just like, man, this is, this is hell.

Because now I'm imagining when I finally do get a story, like, how many other kids out here are going through this?

Like, and their mom's at work.

And the same thing I mentioned, you know, the reason, you know, one of the kids I was talking to, he got, he was getting molested by his.

his aunt's son and he was every bit of like 14 15 years old but i'm sure that happened to him also but the mom was hysterical because she like i'm just trying to work you know i'm sending them over her house just to you know so I can work during the day or whatever because I noticed the kid didn't want to go home after a while like he's just like can I stay with y'all during the break I'm just like no you gotta go home spend time with your family and I always was you know

really suspicious of kids who didn't want to go home because most kids want to go back home still like even if it was fun they still want to go home he didn't want to go home is he came back to school with his jaw like swole or whatever like that and he just you know told us the entire story of what happened and it was it was crazy and of course we you know told his mom she was hysterical but she's working like she's just trying to work just to feed him you know.

And to be honest, our school at the time, it actually helped the parents because they didn't have to worry about feeding them and to worry about where they were.

They were with me the whole time.

You know, we were doing field trips, we were doing things.

Um, so that's where I had got the idea to want to even open a boarding school outside of our after-school program.

You were 19.

Yes.

Um,

that is

an amazing amount of responsibility on your shoulders.

Yes.

How do you, how do you deal with that?

I think I'm, I mean, I don't think it's not normal.

Back in, you know, the Jim Crow era, everybody had cool stuff going on at 19, 20 years old.

Like Dr.

King had a doctor at like 22.

These guys were killing it, you know, but for our age group now, it's like, you gotta be like 30 something to be doing all this fantastic stuff.

I'm just like, no, I'd rather work now and play later.

Like, because I agree with you.

One thing that happens now is like everybody thinks, oh, you're supposed to live life and do all this stuff at this young age.

And I'm just like, dude, right now, while my back isn't hurting, let me do all of this stuff.

Let me go do all this work, set a foundation for my grandkids, etc.

Because nobody works for their grandkids anymore.

Like, nobody's thinking about that.

My oldest son is about to turn six, and I'm already thinking about

King Ram III.

Like, that's good for you.

That's important because I'm like, okay, how can I instill values in my sons that they can pass out to

their sons and their grandsons?

And how can I make sure that continues, you know, through generations?

So it's like now through generations, your

great-grandchildren, there will be somebody named king

every generation right yeah so it's that's important um and and not only that but it's a charge to keep and we have this old hymn you know in the african-american church called a charge to keep and um that's something we grew up singing and we never realized

um it's a charge to keep um that i have a god to glorify um to serve the present age and um fulfill it for the sky um so like that was one of the hymns and they would sing it uh you know like very old school sing it real slow And

I never really paid attention to those lyrics because I'm like, I have a charge to keep.

Like, I have to, I have to do this.

Like, I don't, I don't see why other people don't feel like they have a charge.

Like, some people, they call them NPCs, like from video games, where you just are just there in a simulation and not doing anything.

I think that's the way most people are.

They are.

They just live the American pie life.

They want to, you know,

take the kids on vacation once a year, work nine to five, grill on a weekend sometime, you do your holidays.

And that's fine.

But I feel like I just don't, that's just not my arena.

I feel like I'm responsible for, you know, fixing something.

Our hometown, Albany, Georgia, was one of the cities that Dr.

King failed in.

Failed?

Yes.

Albany, Georgia.

If you have a chance, go look up the civil rights movement in Albany, Georgia.

This was not one of his best places.

And he said, you know, the reason they failed in Albany was because of the mindset of the people.

The same way to this day.

We have a small civil rights museum.

You can go there and see everything that he did.

Andrew Young was down.

Everybody was there.

Ralph Abernathy, everybody was trying to

get stuff desegregated in Albany, and it wouldn't happen when Dr.

King came.

They put him in jail, et cetera.

Chief Pritchett, Albany.

Because the whites' attitude was too strong?

No.

They outsmarted Dr.

King at Albany.

So what happened was when he would go to these other cities, they would beat them down.

You know, they would beat him up, whatever.

Chief Pritchett was like, okay, cool.

We're going to beat you at your own game because Dr.

King was so smart.

His idea was, let me make you guys look like animals to the entire world.

He failed in Albany because Chief Pritchett, when he got there, he was like,

don't touch him.

Just take him to jail.

Don't beat him.

Don't touch him.

Don't do nothing to him.

He got smart, Dr.

King.

And so nothing was able to happen, you know, in our hometown in regard to the city of Albany, Georgia, trying to desegregate.

Of course, eventually it did.

But my name is King.

And I'll never forget, I was going through the

Martin Luther King Civil Rights Museum in Atlanta.

There's this room with the carriage that carried his casket through town.

And there are newspaper headlines all over.

You know, know, he's like one of the most famous people in the world.

And one caught me

April 20th, 1968, the Pittsburgh Courier.

It said, will a new king emerge?

And that's where you see all my handles say, new emerging king.

That's fantastic.

That's where I get that from.

That's fantastic.

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You posted a video,

Very Vulnerable, where you talked.

About an experience with a white guy who wanted to help you.

Tell that story.

So, back when I first started the organization, you know, I told you I was only working with black children because that's what I believed in at the time.

I was like, well, black kids need, you know, better and white people trying to hurt them, whatever, like that.

You know, I'll never forget, he helped me, you know, get a building for one of the events that I was doing or whatever.

And

he also tried to sponsor the field trip.

He was just like, well, it's cool.

You can do it for black kids, whatever.

You know, there's no problem with that.

He was like, I just want to help.

And so he asked, could his son come?

His son,

we were the same age.

I think he was a little younger than me.

He was asking, could he come chaperone i told him no because his son was white i was like he can't come i'm just like this is a trip for black kids and he you know he didn't really like

get crazy upset about it we just kind of like lost contact

maybe

i think five five years later six years later i i had been thinking about that for a while and i found his number again and um we recorded the phone call actually we had the phone call and he said he actually forgot about he's like i don't even remember that he was like but i just the the thought for you to call and apologize is crazy because i called and apologized to him and of course people got mad at me they're like what you apologizing to the white man for and blah blah blah, blah, blah, blah.

Just stupid stuff.

Just like that was on my conscience for a long time because all he was doing was trying to help.

And

to think of how immature, you know, the mind was at that time.

It's grown adults that still think like that, you know, and it's insane.

But I've grown so much to realize that, you know, we all are having some of the same issue with the government.

Once, you know, we realize that we're all having some of the same issues.

Like kind of, for example, like the January 16.

Black people like to bring this up.

They're like, oh, January 6th, if black people were there, we would have died and they would have dropped bombs on us and blah, blah, blah.

I said, let me tell y'all something.

I said, you guys have been crying about police brutality, et cetera.

Grant, some bad things have happened and some haven't or whatever, but we've been crying about police brutality and all this stuff happening to black people so bad.

Why weren't y'all out there with them?

Don't y'all got issues with them too?

Y'all should be out there voicing y'all's opinions about what was going on with your stuff.

I think they believed in their cause enough to go die for it.

I think that all of our rappers, all of our, we got the guns and we're going to go shoot your mama and this and that and whatever, y'all full of cap.

And cap means you're a liar, you know, in our generation.

But y'all full of cap.

The reason y'all full of cap is because y'all got all this smoke for your own community.

You ain't got no smoke for the white man that you swear is out there hurting you so bad.

You mad at January 6th for going to protest something they believed in.

Where were you?

Oh, my bad.

Y'all was out destroying your own community.

You was out there destroying black businesses.

You was out there making sure black people didn't have their restaurants.

You was out there burning down your own community.

They were at the capital where stuff actually happens at.

Nothing happens in your hometown.

That's what a major legislation is going to pass.

Why weren't y'all there?

Y'all should have grouped up everybody and came with the January 6ths.

No, we're here too because we got issues too.

And so I don't get it.

I'm just like, what's wrong with them?

That's how America was born.

It was born off of protests.

Yes.

So I'm not mad at them for going to talk about what they believed in.

Go overtake the fine.

Do it.

That's what you guys should have been doing.

Die or not.

If you believe in it enough, go die for it.

Stop capping

there's a lot to unpack there and i'm not even gonna i'm not even gonna get into it because i know uh i i i agree with your sentiment that's gonna go viral there yeah it is um but

i mean

i don't like violence in any way shape or form um but uh you know to be willing to do what King did,

and I mean, I know his niece, Alvida, quite well.

Oh, everybody.

We love her.

We love her.

Absolutely.

And, you know, she talks about how, you know, she was just helping, I think, her sister or her cousin get up because she was being beaten down.

Yeah.

And her dad left her in jail.

I mean, she did the right thing, except King said, don't do that.

Don't.

Just let them do it.

That's hard.

It is.

That's hard.

And for people who like to walk around calling Dr.

King docile, it's crazy because he was so smart at what he was doing.

Oh, yeah.

He made America look like.

He was Gandhi.

He made America look like they were the most trash.

You're supposed to be the superpower,

the head of the world.

And y'all doing that to y'all low-class citizens?

That was the idea.

I'm like, do you know how much balls it takes for you, for somebody to call you and be like, hey, y'all coming to my hometown tomorrow?

Yeah, well, we're going to kick your ass.

And he's like, okay, cool.

We'll be there.

We'll be there for our ass kicking every single day.

I think that takes more balls than going to fight.

Oh, yeah, it does.

It does.

And again, it was strategy that they had.

And it was intelligent.

It was smart from when they would throw coffee on, whatever.

Granted, now

I ain't got

the gall for that.

I just don't.

If I think I was back in the day, they probably would have hung me way sooner because I just don't have the attitude for that stuff.

But they were intelligent.

They knew what they were doing.

And they got what they wanted to pass.

Granted.

They say, the Bible says, blessed are the peacemakers.

That doesn't mean you're a wuss.

It doesn't mean you don't stand up.

It means

you are standing and taking the beating or whatever it is

so others can have peace.

You may not get peace.

Was it Paul?

I called Paul.

Was it Paul?

That was the gangster cutting people's ears off.

Yeah.

Well, yeah, Paul didn't play no games.

You had anything to talk about, some side way to say he was ready to fight.

Why, though?

Because he believed in Jesus that much or whatever.

so at the end of the day you know we believe in you know peace and we believe in you know uh prosperity and all that stuff but there comes a time where you know violence has to happen um there has never been a time in history where violence didn't have to happen um even the scriptures from real

you think we live in those times that violence has to happen

unfortunately um i think now that even though violence is still happening i think now they have our minds to the point where they can control whether we do the violence or not Um, I think nobody paid attention to the Twitter files for real.

The Twitter files, Elon was showing you guys this is how they controlled your minds the entire couple of years.

We looked at the Twitter files for a bit, but I'm like, no, let's we should have done a really deep dive because they effectively controlled everyone's minds.

What you believed in, what you thought, how to put stuff in your algorithm, et cetera, to make you want to go protest.

It was crazy.

I read a book 20 years ago about these times, and it was a futurist who said, you're not going to, there will be no freedom of choice or freedom of will anymore because you won't know.

You won't know.

Whether that was your idea or something implanted in you because the algorithms will be so slick.

Yep.

And we are there.

And again, the true white supremacy, again, is further believing that you're not able to accomplish anything more than white people.

I think that's beyond white supremacy.

I just think that's evil.

It is, but did you see this, this, uh, this big paper they made about whiteness?

And it was basically saying everything that was good was,

it was basically because it was all white people.

Like showing up on time is, is a white thing is a white culture thing.

And taking care of your kids and a nuclear family is a white culture thing.

And I'm like, that's a good thing.

I'm just like, so you guys think that we're baboons or something like that?

Like, are we just not capable of doing anything right?

Anything right?

You're like, oh, it's whiteness.

It's white culture.

I'm just like, you don't realize what that's doing to to your mind.

It's cooking you because you're never going to feel like you're able to accomplish anything outside of white people, or they're the only ones able to accomplish the most or the greatness.

And I'm just like, I serve as an example, you know, that I didn't, you know, I didn't allow nothing to stop me to do to do what I'm doing.

It's not an easy task.

I'm not just doing something simple.

We're doing something hard.

But

those are the only things that really have reward.

Yeah.

Are the things that you struggle for and the things that are hard.

But nobody wants to work anymore.

That's where we are now.

No, everybody wants to

get rich quick, to make the money, but not actually do anything.

I'm just like, I'm sorry, but for a long time, you are going to have to bust your balls

to work.

And I see even, you know, even my kids, you know, at one point have said, I want to be an influencer.

What the hell is that?

Even that requires work.

I'm telling you.

But,

you know, a lot of influencers are like this and then gone.

The brand doesn't come first.

It's who you are and what you're producing that becomes the brand.

It's not the other way around.

People don't realize that influencer lifestyle, it is busy.

It is tiring.

Like you're having to broadcast your whole life every single day.

It can get annoying.

Like

even just what we're doing with the kids, like, yeah, we have to record most stuff we do.

I have my videographer with me, but it gets a little tiring sometimes, man.

You're having to think of content all the time and what's going forward right now.

And like, you're almost like a journalist almost, you know, comment on everything.

And you got to start your podcast now and all this stuff.

But all this makes money, but nobody wants to start in the nitty-gritty part of it.

Nobody wants to start with 10 views today and 20 views today.

They don't want to work toward the success.

I'm like, all these podcasts, all these influences, all these streamers, they started off with nothing and they decided to work for the rest of it.

What's amazing to me is that when you first came in, your videographer is here.

Because you said, I don't know any of that stuff.

And I'm kind of the same way.

I do my gig and somebody else does,

you know,

that.

This isn't, this is not about you getting famous or, you know, getting rich.

You're the furthest thing from Rich.

To raise money, didn't you like walk?

Yes, I walked 200 miles to the city of Atlanta from Albany.

Yes.

And he was, the videographer was there with me the entire time.

It was just me and him.

So when I would walk, he would drive the truck maybe up a mile or two.

He would get out the truck.

He'd record me walking all the way to where I was going.

I had a mic on.

He'd record me all the way where I was going.

I'd, you know, do a spot where I was.

He'd get in the truck, edit videos, post videos.

Then he'd drive down further.

So he was putting his life on the line as well because we walk on the highway.

Like, this isn't.

We're not walking on those back streets.

We walk on a major highway to raise this money for these kids.

Like, we just have to do something, you know.

crazy because this is how much it means to us like yeah we have to do something to get uh publicity we have to do something what were you paying what were you paying for at the time what were you trying to raise money we were trying to raise money just in general for our general fund um we do a big fundraiser once a year just in general, like not for anything specific, but just to raise money for our next year.

So that's what we were trying to do.

It was around my birthday.

We did our gala on my birthday also, July 26th.

So I turned 25 and we were raising that money.

And that walk was strenuous.

The first day was probably the worst because it was about 30-something miles.

I had to walk down our first street to even get to the highway.

My toes were purple.

My toes took a while to recover, too.

It took a couple of months for my toes to get back to normal color.

It's crazy when you think about how people walked across the country.

yes you're like and we have it hard yeah we get in the car and having to drive having to drive across the mountains yep you're like oh my gosh this has been forever people have to walk walk it people have to walk yeah crazy yeah so again it's i don't i don't allow that whole you know i'm going through so much stuff i'm like if somebody's got it way worse than you do i just got back from africa in august and when i was in africa um i'd never been there before and the trip that we took it was maybe where'd you go in africa went to asaba Nigeria.

And when we went there, it was like a culture shock, but we went there on a three-day notice.

Um, I remember the group hit me a week prior and was like, Can you come?

Can you speak on our panel virtually, you know, for our kids in Asaba, Nigeria?

But something kept saying, You got to go, like, go.

I never wanted to go to Africa, never wanted to be there, never, never had any thoughts to go, but something kept saying, You got to go.

And I'm just like, I don't even got time to go.

I don't got time to get shots.

I don't got time to do all this stuff.

Go.

Some just kept saying, go, go, go.

So I called them.

They reached out to me because they didn't believe it was true that I was going to try to come.

And I was like, no, this is me.

You know, I'm going to try to make it.

So

we ended up, my videographer didn't have a passport.

We had to fly to Buffalo, New York to get over to the same day passport for him.

We had to fly to Buffalo.

Then we flew back to Atlanta.

And then we had to get all these different visas to even go within 24 hours.

So

what I said was I said, listen, if something happens here and if we're not able to do anything, then we're not not meant to go.

If something happens, if the visas don't get passed, if the passport stuff messes, everything went flawlessly.

We got the visas, we got the passport.

I'm like, oh, God.

I was hoping something went wrong.

I was just like, I do not want to go.

Like, I don't want to go.

I was scared.

Like, I was just like, I want to go there.

Like, it's a do not travel advisory.

Like, just, it's crazy.

You know, so dangerous.

It's dangerous.

So we went and I just got videos on my phone.

I'm like.

I'm two three-year-old kids like out trying to sell, like literally two and three years old.

I can't even imagine my son trying to sell something on the side of the road.

Like, I couldn't even fathom that.

I'm like, their brain ain't even ready for that.

You know, and they out here trying to sell stuff to make money.

They haven't seen their parents in a week or two because their parents are working and they don't see their parents at all.

Like, they may come back.

They're just out fending for themselves.

I'm like, where they shower?

They're like, where do they bathe?

It's just like, if they bathe, they bathe wherever they are.

You know, I'm just like, that is insane.

No food.

I mean, the roads are

shit to be frank.

I mean, it was crazy.

And I was, it, it,

I hate to say it removed some empathy from me for coming back home, but I'm just like, bro, we got got everything.

We are spoiled brats.

I was grateful to just go get some water from the refrigerator because it wasn't any of that.

Or to go get something different to eat because we had to eat the same thing almost every single day.

Like, I'm just,

it took me a second to even be home because I'm just like, man, like.

That was crazy.

And they lived that.

And all their dreams were to do what?

To get to America, every last one.

All of them like, what are your dreams?

We just want to go to America.

We're trying to work hard and be smart and all this stuff to come to America.

They so well read, so intelligent, so articulate.

And I'm just like, our kids got it all.

And we're trying to convince our kids that somebody else is the reason that they are failing.

No, it's not.

It's our fault.

It's our fault.

You sound very much like Booker T.

Washington.

Love him.

I do too.

Yep.

Not a fan of what his school has become now, but.

Yeah, but he would.

I mean, if...

If he would have lived a little bit longer, I think things would have been different.

He was a remarkable man.

I can't beat up from slavery, man.

Yeah, no, it's best.

That's the the best.

Just reading his work is crazy because I'm just like, man, this is a former slave.

Do you know that they're now saying, because

next door we have a museum of all kinds of stuff?

Sure.

We have his original up from slavery, but we also have the new edition that now says this is a work of fiction.

They're claiming that none of that's true.

Really?

Yeah.

Wow.

Trying to erase him.

And I think he's one of the most important black people,

certainly one of the most important black people of the 20th century.

I agree.

I mean, he was remarkable.

Yeah, I agree.

So, Generation Z is, I'm not familiar.

I don't know if you're familiar with the fourth turning.

Have you heard of that?

No, it's a long story short, it's just about generational patterns that go all the way back, and it's an 80, 90-year pattern.

Sure, and um,

it we think Generation Z

is what is called in that theory the hero generation.

That it just

the hero generation, the last one, was during World War I.

They came back, they pampered their children because they didn't want their children to see the horrors that they had already seen.

So they got everything.

And then they got spoiled.

And that was the 60s hippies generation.

And then they didn't really pay attention to their kids.

And that gave you the latchkey generation.

And now that generation is supposed to turn for the

Generation Z now that's coming up.

And you again are going to be the ones that everybody dismisses.

Everybody says, well, they don't know

their butt from their elbow.

They're never going to be able to do it.

Just like the people said, you know, before they went into war and won World War II, nobody had confidence in them.

That's Generation Z.

And you start a new chapter

and are the new heroes for the next hundred years.

It's the Joshua generation right after Moses.

Yes.

That's what I believe in.

I think

where we mess up, especially is, again, with the whole thing, not wanting our kids to experience hardship.

It is my responsibility to create hardship for my sons.

I think one of the worst things we did was with

like the banks.

Why would we bail them out?

Why would we bail them out?

There's no learning curve.

If you bail people out, there's zero learning curve.

I refuse to create an easy life for my sons.

And people have chastised me, got mad at me, etc.

Not saying I'm overly hard on them, not at all.

But they don't like, you know, sometimes he may not want to do something.

They're like, oh, he don't want to do it.

I don't care if he doesn't want to do it.

He has to do it.

Good for you.

And I tell him all the time, and we have this little thing.

I'm like, when do we work?

He's like, when we don't feel like it.

I'm like, exactly.

That's when we work.

That's the best time to work because you're going to do your best work when you don't feel like it.

Or even right now, I got him on baseball pause.

My son is fantastic at baseball.

Bro, he's the truth at his age.

But that's because I spent a lot of time with him.

But sometimes he doesn't like like to practice so right now we're on a two-month hiatus from baseball because i want him to see how much he sucks when he starts back so this month um we're starting back you know practicing in the gym or whatever i built a little gym in the garage and we're gonna start back hitting the balls and doing ground balls and i want him to see how much he sucks because that's your lesson you suck because you don't care to practice you have to do what people can't see everybody sees you at the game you love being good you love winning all the games and getting all the trophies and everybody's like oh you're so good and blah blah blah you love all that but you don't like the practice part so i'm gonna allow you okay cool.

Fine.

I won't even say nothing about it.

I'm going to wait till you ask me to go practice.

You never asked.

I said, okay, cool.

So I'm just going to sit there with him.

And when it's time to go practice again, I'm like, do you see how much you suck now?

Why?

Because you have to do the work.

Same thing with school.

He likes to draw, basketball, whatever.

He does boxing also.

You will begin to suck when you stop.

practicing you have to do those things that you don't want to do and you know for most parents i tell them i'm like you know my sons the only thing they don't have a choice with is is uh self-defense jiu-jitsu and boxing they have to do it regardless i don't care if they don't want to do it if they don't feel like doing it that's what you're going to do you're going to learn how to defend yourself and learn how to control your your mind because it's controlled anger and control aggression they need to learn early um but you only gonna get that from your daddy or whatever so um you know again teaching him those things early it's it's important even we flew to iowa um when was this and back in june we went to debuke iowa we went to a drew richards hit training um with my son and drew was telling my son he's like man you're the best five-year-old hitter i ever seen in my life he's just like you're just fantastic he's like i've never seen nothing like it or whatever and he hears that and he loves it but then i'm just like son the reason you get that is because we practice we you have forgotten about more baseball than more kids have played in their life at this age same thing with boxing most kids aren't starting at four years old five years old bro is he's really good he uh he uh sparred a 10 year old not too long ago grant the 10 year old won of course but the shots he was able to get off at five it's insane especially with the height difference i mean the kids fantastic but i spend time with my son on purpose building the work ethic building that stuff up because work ethic has to be given and taught if you don't teach him that by the time he turns 12 13 you're never going to get it don't care what you say you're never going to get that true work ethic out of them because you're always going to look at your child like man i just know he could be so much better if he put 110 in and i don't want to be that dad looking at my sons like man i just wish they would have i see you know guys all the time uh celebrities whatever and they just got this oh i wish i would have with my son and i wish i would i am not going to have any I wish I would have's with my kids.

My kids come first before everything, before the organization, before the city.

I do everything with them first.

And so, my big thing for them is: okay,

how can I raise you all the best?

How can I make sure you're going to do the same thing for your kids?

Because I tell them now about their grandkids, and they like three and four.

I'm just like, you're going to have grandkids one day, son.

And they're going to remember all that.

He may not like being with me all the time because I'm a little hard on him sometime, or he just might just want to eat ice cream today, or whatever, like that.

But when he turns 17, 18 years old, and getting scholarships or whatever, and successful in whatever he's doing, being a doctor, whatever, he's going to remember.

My dad made sure that I was great.

He made sure that he spent time.

He made sure they're going to remember all of that.

And they're making core memories now.

I remember stuff from when I was three, four years old.

So I look at them and I see myself from when I was younger and I'm purposely creating memories with them that are going to stick, whether they are crying or whatever.

I know some of those moments where he's crying or upset or the ball hit him in the face or whatever like that.

As long as he's not about to die, let's go.

Keep going.

It's okay.

You're going to get hit sometimes.

It hurts because I had to practice with him sparring for the first time because he boxed for maybe like a year before he first sparred.

And I got in the gym with him and I sparred him, you know, on my knees because he'd never been hit in the face before.

So I had to, he had to see what it felt like because I knew if he got hit in that face in that ring, he was going to lose it.

And just, I don't want to do this.

So I popped him.

You know, he had his headgear on.

So I hit him and he.

You're hitting too fast.

He starts crying.

I'm just like, okay, it's okay.

You can crap with your hands back up though and still remember everything Coach Dino has taught you the whole time.

Move your head, throw your punches, etc.

Then he started getting excited and loving it.

so the next day when it's time to spar he was fine he was ready to throw punches ready to take punches ready to move out the way but that's because i spent time preparing him for war that's what a dad's supposed to do that's what i'm supposed to do so people might not have liked it why did you tap your son like that i'm like bro he's not hurt i'm spending time with my son so he doesn't end up like yours

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I don't, I, it's like I don't even know what to say to you.

I, I, I, I, I,

I I hope I can live to be 100 and with it, so I can see you at my age.

You're one of the wisest 25-year-olds

I've ever met.

Granddads and uncles, man, I still consult with them to this day.

You know, my age shows in a lot of different ways.

Don't get me wrong.

I'm definitely 25.

Yeah.

I still play video games and all that jazz.

You know, I still do stupid stuff.

You know, my mom got a fuss at me or whatever like that.

For the most part, I'm always remembering what uncles and granddads said.

My granddad came to live with us when I was about like 12 or 13 or so.

And I remember all the stuff that he was teaching at the time over there.

And he was saying stuff to me.

And I didn't really recognize what he was saying at the time, but I remember it all.

So it's just like, you know, remembering all the stuff he taught and my uncles and my grandma, my grandma, I grew up in the church.

I played the drums my whole life.

So all I know is church stuff for the most part.

And I just want to see kids do better.

I believe our civil rights leaders made a mistake and didn't train any replacements.

And that's why we were in the the condition that we're in.

Nobody would train replacements.

Nobody was trying to train that next generation.

So I believe that's important for us.

I think we, all of us, not just black, but white as well, we lost the work ethic.

We lost the desire to educate.

I mean, if you read up from slavery, you know,

he's praising

the education.

We have an opportunity to have something better than the president

his child had at that time.

Think of what we have available to us now.

You know, it's like the scriptures.

People died to be able to translate the scriptures in our language.

We have them on our phone and we don't even read them.

Pairs for a lack of knowledge.

We don't know what we don't know.

And that's important.

So

what

difference are you seeing in the lives of the kids that you are

because we haven't even really talked about this?

Sure.

you're bringing these kids along you're teaching them skills um teaching them how to you know fix an engine do household stuff you're out building fences whatever you can do with your hands right okay

um

so you are now if i'm not mistaken You just bought a laundromat or you're trying to buy a laundromat?

Yeah, we have a building that was gifted to us from a donor in our hometown.

We want to turn into a laundromat.

That's what we're trying to do.

So we can generate revenue for our students.

And

when you say

we want to run it, it'll be the kids that have run it?

Us and their parents, yeah.

It's fantastic.

Yeah, but to your question, you're asking about the impact that I've seen.

I'm glad to answer this question now.

I've been working with kids going on six years now.

I can only point to maybe three or four kids that truly embody everything that the Excel Boys is all about.

The reason I say that is because when I first started, I had this idea that I could, there was no child that couldn't be fixed or no child that couldn't be worked with or no child that couldn't be, you know, pushed forward.

I spent five years working with some kids and

I only can point to, again, two or three kids that truly embody everything that we've taught.

The reason I say that is because I started too late with a lot of them.

We're in a generation now where maybe at your generation, kids were losing themselves at the age of 11 to 17.

We got kids kids losing themselves now at like six and seven years old like losing themselves i mean and i mean smoking at school having sex already etc oh yeah oh yes oh yes at these ages this is what's happening and so these kids are already lost at 11 12 years old when they first get to me so i'm trying to undo what's already been done that it's already started i can't it's Tell me how hard it is to tell a 12-year-old to stop having sex.

You can't.

It's not happening.

And so they end up with kids.

You tell them to stop smoking weed.

You can't.

No matter how cool I make this life seem, no matter how many times I teach them how to do something or Bible study, it's not happening.

That's the saddest thing I've ever heard.

It is, but I'm one of the only people that'll be honest about it because other people, they do have organizations that do the same thing that we do or at different ages, but they don't care about the actual change of the kids.

They just want it to look cool and keep getting donors.

I'm probably one of the only people to be like, look, I've been working with kids for six years and I probably could tell you two or three that actually represent what we're doing.

But why do those two or three represent what we're doing?

Those kids were blessed in our program by their big brothers.

I only allow kids under age 11 to come if they had a big brother in the program.

And so Bryson.

So you didn't get the big brother per se, but you got the kids.

Got the little brother

because they were younger.

I didn't even realize in my not directly working with them, they were paying attention to everything that I was saying from standing up straight to making sure you tie your tie right to make sure you got a haircut, cutting your fingernails, et cetera.

So one of my students, Bryson and jeremiah etc these kids is like i said there's only a couple of them and king darius it's a couple of them they are fantastic they are magnificent and i never truly just worked directly with them all the way i was working with their brothers but they were paying attention to everything that i was teaching so this is why i started working younger i had a nine-year-old starting the program He gets to the program.

He loves it.

He's like, I love Mr.

King.

I love the program.

But mama, those kids are bad and I don't know if I can deal with it.

And so I used to have this thing where I used to try to force kids to do the program.

Like, no, you're going to sit here.

You're going to pay attention.

You're going to do, I don't do that anymore.

If you don't want to be here, I will send you home.

Because I have lost so many kids that when I thought about it, I've lost so many great, fantastic kids who truly needed our teaching.

Trying to force the kids who didn't want to be there.

We've wasted so many donations, et cetera, taking kids on field trips, making sure they're doing what they're trying to go to their schools, whatever.

And we've wasted so much time and so much energy and so much money on those kids who didn't want it, who didn't want to be there.

And we lost those those kids who needed it so this is where i took the pivot and saying okay i gotta work with kids way younger because right now i had a i had an eight-year-old smoking at school and stuff like that

teachers called me and like hey can you work with this kid like what's going on he's smoking what whoa bro in third grade like yeah he's smoking in the bathroom what boy if third grade when i was growing up if third grade was smoking

The whole society would have written that kid off as like, there's no way.

Man, this is what we're looking at.

So I'm one of the people to be honest about what I've done in the past couple of years.

I'm just like, okay, now I pivot because now I know what I need to do.

And I have maturity now.

Also, while I'm being civic, you know, civically engaged now, you know, I'm on these different boards and spending time, you know, going to our commission meetings and stuff.

And because

it's because most of our kids are being affected by these things that are happening at these meetings, at these board meetings, at the school board meeting, et cetera.

These kids are being affected by it.

Before, I was just like, oh, politics, we don't need to worry about that, whatever.

Politics worry about you.

So you need to go worry about politics and see who you're voting in.

And most people, I tell them all the time, we were so hung up on voting for president.

Who's your mayor?

You don't even know.

Who's your city council member?

You don't even know.

What war do you live in?

What district do you live in?

You don't even know.

You don't even know who to call or something's wrong or if a light's busted or whatever.

You don't even know who to call.

But we were so caught up on, you know, voting for president, President Trump ain't going to come change your street lights.

Nor is he going to come pave your street.

Nor is he going to make sure your kids got an after-school reading program at the local gym.

Exactly, right?

Your local mayor, your local city councilman, they have to listen to you.

They work for you.

And it's crazy how they work for you.

You pay them and you don't give them a job evaluation.

So

that's what I have to talk to people about now.

It's like, no, you got to get involved locally, but that sounds like work.

So they don't want to go do it.

It's easy to say, oh, our city is terrible.

We need new leadership instead of going to see what's wrong.

So

what is your ultimate goal?

Where do you see yourself in 25 years?

I hope to fix my hometown.

I'm not one of those people that's like, oh, I want to change the world.

No, I don't.

I want to change Albany, Georgia.

That's how you'll change the world.

Exactly.

Because some of those kids, even if they may not live in Albany or stay in Albany, I will have affected that child going to move to Louisiana and to go fix that community over there.

Or I will affect that child that's moving to Chicago when he gets his degree or whatever.

After spending so many years with me, he goes to Chicago and changes the landscape up there.

All of them were touched by our program and what we were doing for these kids.

So my goal is to change my hometown.

That's my dream.

That's my goal.

If I change my hometown in 20, 25 years, maybe I'll run for something or whatever.

But my goal is to fix my hometown of Albany, Georgia.

At one point, we were the fourth poorest city in the whole country, you know, and if you come visit our city, it's so much potential.

It is not a small city in size at all.

We have, I think we were like the eighth biggest city in the state or whatever, in surface area.

But in regards to population, it keeps going down because city morale is low and nobody knows how to show people that our city is worth believing in.

And that's what I believe I'm there to do.

We deserve leadership that spends time making sure the city is okay.

And that's what I intend to do.

So I'm going to go back to Generation Z.

What are you seeing different

in this generation, in your generation?

I think the boys,

this might sound strange.

I think the boys are strangely

more connected than the girls are.

I think the boys maybe have been

so dismissed for so long that they've got to find something bigger than them and bigger than what they're being told.

Yeah.

And the girls, I mean, when a society, when your girls go bad,

your society is flushing down the toilet because the guys have no reason to have any standards.

No standards.

And I think our generation has lost themselves because their grandparents and parents are too busy working to be able to raise them.

So, you know, again, back in the day, grandma and granddad and mom were mostly home because dad used to work or whatever like that.

And they could make ends meet.

Now that you can't make ends meet, especially in our hometown, you're working two or three jobs.

You're not able to teach your children truth.

You're not able to teach them your values.

So you're just hoping your child is paying attention at school.

You're hoping your child is at home doing the right thing.

And then mama, she's so hurt because she's just like, I'm just trying my hardest.

I'm trying to send you to these programs.

I'm trying to send you to football practice and whatever.

And you just keep falling by the wayside.

Well, for one, their phones.

I think that's the biggest destructive tool to our kids.

My My son does not have one.

It won't even, I don't do YouTube and none of that stuff.

He don't do tablets, any of that jazz, but the kids, they lost themselves on these on these devices, and it's been done purposely.

Then on top of the devices, not having to try and raise yourself.

And that's what kids are doing.

Or your siblings having to raise you because now you got older siblings in the house.

And hey, I need you to watch your brother.

I need you to watch your sister.

Now they've become effectively the parent of the children.

And they doing what their siblings do.

And if their siblings are up to no good, they're up to no good too.

You know, so this is the story of many of our kids in this generation.

So now from our hometown, like, okay, what can I do?

in leadership to help bring working good jobs to our hometown where people can actually afford to live um and not only live but that'll attract more businesses to come to our hometown because people can afford it nobody's going to bring business to our hometown if people can't even afford the basic stuff that's there um if they can't afford to to even go out to eat why don't we bring major business here like people look at our downtown like oh you could have so many cool stores here yeah but people can't afford that stuff they can't afford it right so my idea was okay our school system has a a program where they actually take parents and they teach them you know how to do these different skill trades and they give them certificates and they go work and they make good money and they're able to spend time with their kids they told us many of these stories but i'm just like why haven't hasn't our city done that Our city has many people that would love to go and work and make the money.

If the school system can do it, what's stopping city government funds from trying to train those people up?

Yes, it's an investment right now, but spend that money on those people, have them learn

the trades, have them learn those skills.

For one, on one fold, you got people making money now, which means the household media income goes up.

Then on top of that, you got parents able to be home with their kids now, meaning they can discipline now.

Then on top of that, we bring an industry here because now, hey, Mr.

Big Factory Man, we just trained a thousand people on how to do excavators and do nursing or whatever.

We got a thousand people ready to work in your factory right now.

We got plenty of land.

Can we give you some land to come bring this factory so that way we could have the money for for people to spend on bringing new business here like it's it's it's it's foolproof stuff that i would think but it's not being done because nobody's going to fuss about it but like i said before you know our city's uh looking for hope and leadership our city um like i said we had about 67 000 people previously it was about 71 000.

we only had about uh 7 000 people vote for mayor in our local election 7 000 out of 67 000 7 000 out of out of that many people they didn't even know the mayoral election was going on but because that's because they don't care and it's not the people to a point.

It's also the leaders.

Because why aren't you making sure that people know what's going on?

They just go to the same people that vote every year and just make sure they vote them in.

Nobody else cares because nobody else even knows.

I can guarantee you, like, if I go talk to 50 people in our hometown, 49 of them don't know who the mayor is.

And that's not all the way fault to the people.

That's fault of the mayor.

Because where are you?

Where are you?

How can people help you?

You can support our organization at thexforboys.org.

That's T-H-E-X-F-O-R-B-O-Y-S.org.

You can go there to see everything in regards to the X for Boys, our photos, our videos, field trips, whatever, stuff I didn't talk about today.

You can follow me on social media at New Emerging King on all platforms.

You'll be able to see some of the videos we've done.

As of late, I've been doing my own little personal videos, you know, in regards to different subject matters.

But for the most part, once we kick back off in the spring semester, you'll see more of these videos of us helping the kids.

But it's at New Emerging King on all social media and thexforboys.org.

So I have a charity called Mercury One, and we teach, we do

these family

things where we bring families and kids in for three days.

So we teach them American history, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

And we also do a two-week program

that pretty much strips you down so you're like, I realize at 17 or 18 years old, I really don't know anything.

You don't know anything?

Yep.

And that's a really intensive program.

And we would love to host some of your kids and families.

And we'd cover that.

But I also...

we'd like to make a $10,000 donation to you.

Thank you.

We appreciate it.

Yeah, I think what you're doing is amazing.

Really?

I appreciate it.

And we definitely look forward to bringing the kids here.

We love to try and have them travel.

Some of our donors have been able to take our kids all across the country.

They've been to Utah and private jets, everything.

Yeah, because people have, you know, seen what we're doing online.

They're just like, we want to be a part.

And that's something that I believe in.

You know, people believe in us.

And I love that.

And it's cool for the kids to see that.

from the city of Albany, you know, this small town, people know about what we're doing all over the world because of what we've done in this program.

We've put Albany on the map in so many different places.

People don't even know Albany exists until we talk about the Extra Boys program or people hear about the city of Albany, the first thing they think about is the Extra Boys program.

So I'm just grateful guys have been able to use us as a catalyst to speak about our hometown and showcase what we're doing because we have talent there.

We just got to showcase it.

And I think, again, if we train those replacements, we'll be able to make something happen.

I will tell you, you're one of the very few that I have met that are

this young, this talented, this smart, that I haven't felt compelled to say,

stay close to the Lord because you have temptation coming coming your way like nobody's, like you can't imagine.

Because fame and fortune just destroys.

It's battery acid for the soul.

Yep, the rappers say more money, more problems.

I know, I know.

But I have to say it to you anyway.

I just feel you're so rock solid, but don't get arrogant in your relationship with God.

You're amazing.

One thing I notice with my life is every time something extremely great happens, something extremely bad happens to go in it.

So usually usually like people always wonder like when I have bad things happen to me, like why I don't like just get so flustered and frustrated.

I'm just like, this extremely bad thing just happened.

So God's got something on the way.

That's exactly something's about to happen.

So I usually get almost excited when something really bad happens.

I'm like, God's got something on the way or whatever.

And same thing that happened, you know, with the Elon thing.

I'm just like, okay.

Before that happened, I was like, something's about to happen because I just had some really bad stuff going in my personal life.

And then I wake up in the middle of the night and Elon shared our video and we got all the support, you know, coming from everywhere.

So, then again, you know, when something great happens, something bad happens.

So, I think that's God who keeping me balanced.

Like, yeah, so I love that.

But, yeah, it's you know, it's easy to get, you know, the big head, but um, I get, I'm only have the big head at home.

You know, I go in the mirror and like, yeah, these guys can't, yeah, they can't deal with me.

I'm the best, you know, at home, of course, you know.

But when it's time to, you know, show my face and represent God, that's what I do.

But of course, everybody's at home, you know, don't go look in the mirror and say, Yeah, I'm the guy.

You know, Mr.

Glenn's doing his hair in the morning, like, yeah,

I'm Glenn back.

Everybody wish they were Glenn.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

God bless you, man.

God bless you.

Thank you so much for having me.

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