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Now, Liz Wheeler joins us on the show to talk about what Trump should focus on.

We have Carol Roth squashing one of the Harris campaign's biggest lies regarding small business and the growth of jobs and small businesses.

Also, John Lott is here to talk about the gun rate.

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I kind of like America.

You know,

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Carol Roth joins us now.

She's just written an article for Blaze, theblaze.com.

Kamala Harris is pro-worker, like McDonald's is pro-cow.

Hello, Carol.

How are you?

I'm glad.

I'm doing fantastic.

How are you?

I'm very good.

So, what are you thinking about the debate today

and what

Donald Trump needs to do?

Because he's going to be in there fighting really by himself.

The two anchors are so anti-Trump.

I don't think they're going to necessarily be helpers on holding her feet to the fire.

Oh, you mean the media outlet that has 100% pro-Kamala Harris stories is not going to turn around and be a fair debate moderator at Shock.

Yeah.

That's weird, huh?

I see Kamala Harris coming out as new and improved Kamala Harris now with more joy because it's the only thing that she can hang her hat on.

She is going to sit and gaslight the American public and pretend that she was not part of the Biden-Harris administration, that she was not the tie-breaking vote on all of this critical legislation, which has raised inflation, created massive deficits, and really decimated the middle and working class.

She's going to try to present herself as something completely different.

I think what Donald Trump needs to do, and this is going to be very difficult for him because when somebody hangs a softball out there,

he likes to hit the pitch.

But he needs to stay away from the ad hominem attacks.

He needs to not take the bait because she is going to be baiting him back and forth.

And he needs to stay focused on the economy, on the border, on the U.S.'s standing in the world, and simply hold her feet to the fire for the policies that she has been responsible for and contrast that to the pre-COVID three-plus years that we had Donald Trump as president and what everybody's life was like.

We know that.

We have empirical evidence.

Okay, but Carol, she does have some things she can boast about.

The small business success.

She claims a record of 19 million small business applications were received under their leadership.

And that's a record, I hear.

That's what they say.

Okay, so this is,

I think most people know who listen to me on your program that I'm one of the world leading experts on small business.

I've been entrenched for decades.

I heard this, this thing, this small business applications.

And I went around to every group that I know and I said, what is a small business application?

Because when I started my business, I didn't have to apply at the federal level.

You know, certainly if I had an LLC, so I registered that with the state.

Some people have sold proprietorships.

What does this mean?

Because we have 33 plus million small businesses, but that only grows on net less than a million a year.

So how is it possible that we have 19 million new application starts?

And so far no one's really been able to give me an answer.

I have one committee

related to the House Small Business Committee who thinks that maybe there's some information that came from the state census data.

But I asked them, they're actually having a committee hearing and I asked them if they could ask the SBA administrator and put her on the hot seat because they're running around touting these made-up statistics to sound like they're some champion of small business.

At the same time, Glenn, NFIB came out with their small business optimism index today,

the 32nd consecutive month that small business optimism has been below the historical average.

And that's a 50-year average.

Well, that's

because they fear Donald Trump is coming back.

For 32 months, yes.

I mean, it is, it's crazy because I see this number, you know,

of 19 million small businesses.

And I, and I'm like, I thought that was just because of all the businesses that they had put out of business.

They're like starting up new businesses.

So I just thought they were taking credit like they do with all the job creation.

We've created more jobs.

No, you didn't.

People went back to work.

You had told them you cannot work.

So of course there were people going back to work.

But But you're saying this isn't that at all.

This is

possibly even made up.

Yeah, I mean,

it's something, but nobody knows really what it is.

It certainly is not a pro, it's not a proxy for new small businesses created, which is what they're intimating.

And we know the number of small businesses, you know, a year ago was 32 point something million, and then it climbs to 33 point something million.

You know, yes, that's on net, unless they're killing 18 million small businesses a year,

which, you know, we know that they're certainly trying, but I don't think that they've succeeded in doing that yet.

But this is an absolute, you know, it's just, you know, spouting off nonsense.

And they're doing this, you know, again and again to gaslight people into things are so great.

We're so in your corner.

But at the same time, she's coming out and she's tweeting about anti-small business policies like the PRO Act that she said that she's going to put in place, which, for people who don't know, that is the anti-gig worker and anti-independent contractor language from California's AB5 taken nationally.

And they want to kill the gig economy and all the small businesses that depend on independent contractors in favor of unions and big business.

So it's very difficult to say, I am the small business, I am the worker candidate, and still be in favor of these things, which is why I equate it to being like McDonald's being pro-Cal.

You know, it is

as a small business owner myself,

I look at tomorrow and think if

they get in,

the regulations, just the regulations alone that are still sitting out there that they want to impose will just crush small businesses.

These guys, you know, they used to say that, well, the

Republicans are in with big business.

Well, they were also in with small business, too.

You know, they had a business attitude.

These guys are only big business.

They are only in with the giant global corporations.

That's all they care about.

And it is honestly like they are trying to impoverish the small business and impoverish the middle class.

Without moving...

any of the middle class up, they're moving them all down.

Yeah, I'm glad that you brought up regulations because, as I mentioned, there's this House committee meeting right now, and they came out with a report earlier this year that the Biden-Harris agenda imposed $1.7 trillion in regulations on small businesses.

And that was before we've had some of these pending regulations go into place.

So, I am certain that that's higher, and that is millions upon millions of hours that are wasted.

That is real dollars that are wasted.

And that's a barrier to success.

You know, we keep hearing this ridiculous phrase, the opportunity economy.

Well, if you want to create opportunity, you reduce barriers or you reduce regulations, you reduce taxes, you reduce the government being up in your business, and you have the government mind their own business so that you can go off and work in your business.

That is what it is all about.

I know that our audience is heavy on entrepreneurs and people who have done business for a long time, but there's also a younger generation that listens and explain

why

regulations hurt opportunity.

They hurt opportunity because, number one, they're costly.

Two, you're spending time complying with the regulation instead of spending the time working and growing your business.

And the challenge is that if you are a big company, if you're the Amazons of the world, if you're the Walmarts of the world, you have not only a whole balance sheet to deal with this, but you have a whole host of people in your company, whether it's HR or whether it's some other administrative function that can deal with these regulations.

When it comes to small business, the majority, greater majority of small businesses, it's just the entrepreneur.

So it's one person who's already wearing all of those hats trying to deal with this.

Even if you have some employees, you don't have the wherewithal, the ability, or struggling enough to deal with inflation, finding the right workers,

remaining competitive, dealing with cybersecurity and the like.

You don't have time and you don't have bandwidth and you don't have capital to deal with these regulations.

And some of them are so onerous that people want to close their business.

Something that we've been talking about, Glenn, for months now, that the Corporate Transparency Act, which is this registration with the Financial Crimes Division of the Treasury, I've had hundreds upon hundreds of small business owners and people looking to start small businesses saying that they don't want to.

They want to close their business.

They don't want to start because they don't want to deal with the asymmetrical risk of having their information exposed or the government coming after them for doing something wrong.

So because the government is imposing this regulation, which by the way is still in flux,

it's preventing these entrepreneurs from taking those risks and creating opportunity, which creates jobs, which creates more dollars in their community, which grows the economy, which is what we need to move ourselves forward.

This is so obvious, but all they want to do is take away wealth, create barriers, redistribute it, and make it very, very challenging for a small business owner to succeed.

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: You, I think it was you, Carol, said, oh, maybe six months ago, we were talking and you said,

Glenn, most of the stuff that they've done doesn't really kick in until 2025.

So we haven't felt the full impact of Bidenomics yet.

Was that you that said that to me?

Quite probably.

Quite probably.

So what is it that is coming still that we haven't felt?

Describe next year just as it stands

without any new policies, if we just continued where we are.

Well, as I said, the House Small Business Committee is doing a markup on seven different pieces of legislation trying to overturn

all of these stringent rules for small business.

This Corporate Transparency Act, we have till the end of the year for that to go into effect.

If there's no delay, which by the way, there's two delay bills and two repeal bill or two repeal bills and seven lawsuits.

If we don't get that done by the end of the year, then people are going to be faced with compliance.

And then on top of that,

we have the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.

Large pieces of that is expiring and changing the way that small businesses have to look at their taxes and figure out

what makes sense from them from an administrative standpoint.

And that's, again, just scratching the surface.

So

one after another,

there are things in the pipeline.

And then if Kamala Harris were to become president, again, day one, they are going to try to rule by executive order.

I mean, one of the other things, this Department of Labor rule, very anti-independent contract rule, that went into effect in March.

They haven't been truly enforcing it.

I haven't seen much of the way of enforcement.

But if they start to crack down on that, you know, that's something that could kill all of small business across the board.

So there are just so many different things, and it's challenging enough to own your own business, as you well know, as a small business owner to not constantly have to be worried about what's the next shoe that's going to drop coming from your own sub.

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Liz Wheeler.

How are you?

Hey, I'm well.

Thanks for having me.

You're welcome.

You're welcome.

So

I guess I'm going to start where Stu started with me this morning.

Are you optimistic?

I'm so excited for this debate.

Are you really?

Yes, I'm such a political nerd.

I love this kind of stuff.

I know it's a circus, it's a clown show, but it's also seems like a culmination of what we fight for every day.

We finally have two people that are representing polar opposite viewpoints for our country, different paths.

And I'm rooting for Trump.

I think he can win, but I think one of the most important things that he has to do is understand his enemy.

If you know your enemy, then you will be able to defeat them.

And he has to be very self-aware that Kamala Harris is going to try to be this girl boss, girl power.

She's going to try to provoke him emotionally, and he has to be able to let that roll off of his back.

So what do you mean she's going to be that girl boss, girl power?

Remember when she was debating Mike Pence during the last round and she goes, excuse me, Mr.

Vice President, I'm speaking.

Yeah.

Why do you think this time her team insisted that the mics be left open versus, remember in the first debates between Trump and Biden, the mics were muted, so you could only speak during your allotted time.

Otherwise, no one would be able to hear you.

All of a sudden, she had agreed to this.

And then last week, her team says, actually, we want the mics open.

Well, why?

So that she can run these quote-unquote fact checks in real time.

She can say, you're lying.

I'm speaking, and make it seem like he's this white patriarchal male who's trying to be a bully to her as a woman of color.

I think if he handles this debate exactly the same way he handled it with Joe Biden,

he's going to do really well.

Yes, he did very well with Joe Biden because he stayed, he was so disciplined about his message.

See, this is the thing.

Kamala Harris is a radical.

She's not moderate.

She's not centrist.

She shouldn't appeal to independence.

She is a radical leftist, a Marxist.

Her father was a Marxist, is a Marxist economics professor.

And Donald Trump should highlight that.

He has all the facts on his side.

She's been in the White House for four years now.

So her record is Joe Biden's record.

So on any.

I don't know if you heard the news today, but her policy page is Joe Biden's policy page.

How do you do that?

It's like a gift to the Trump campaign.

Oh, it is.

It is.

Everything.

She's going to come out and pretend to be a prosecutor.

She's going to ask him pointed question after pointed question.

She's going to call him a felon.

Yes, and you know what he should do if she calls him a felon?

Because she's going to, that's pulled well for them.

He should say, Madam Vice President, do you agree with the Supreme Court ruling that the vaccine mandate that came from the Biden-Harris administration was illegal?

And if she says that she agrees with the Supreme Court, then she is acknowledging that she was a tyrant, trying to violate all of our medical freedom.

And if she says, no, I think the Supreme Court was wrong, then she's saying she thinks it's legal for her to do that.

So when you want to talk about crime against people and a visceral response that people are going to have to a crime committed against them, he should pivot to the topic that's important for the viewers to understand.

He's never going to change Kamala's mind on stage, but that's not the point.

The point is to showcase to the American people what she is.

So, you know, you started with saying, and I've wanted this for a long time.

If we're going to talk about communism, we're going to talk about truly changing the economy, changing the constitution, all the things that the World Economic Forum has been doing, along with the Biden-Harris thing, then

let's have that conversation honestly.

And we do have literally a communist.

What she is proposing is communism.

And her dad loves that stuff.

So she grew up steeped in all of this stuff.

But she won't admit it.

That's the problem.

No, but her track record shows it.

So all Trump has to do is remember one question.

Every time she makes an assertion, he should say, what does that mean?

And not, he should say it rhetorically.

He shouldn't give her back the microphone.

But if she says, I'm going to be tough on the border, he should say, what does that mean?

During the past four years, when you were in the White House and had control of this as the border Tsar, which was acknowledged by the United States Congress after Biden appointed you to that position.

Eight and a half million illegal aliens crossed the border.

So, when you say you're going to be tough on the border, is that your definition of tough on the border, or did you fail when you had a chance at this job?

She's going to say we have greatly

stopped the flow of

I hope she does because that'll turn people off.

Because people have Haitian migrants eating ducks in their front yard in Springfield, Ohio.

They're not going to believe her when she says everything's hunky-dory.

Yeah, I don't.

Tell me this.

I said to Stu yesterday that I'm actually becoming more and more optimistic about this election

because things are getting so bad that the average person, I mean, if you're a stay-at-home mom,

if you're a mom, you are worried about your kids getting to and from school, even in California,

where now the immigrants are just staying at the bus stop.

standing there with your kids.

And if the bus sees a bunch of immigrants there because they're trying to get on the buses, if they see them, they just blow on by.

They won't pick your kid up.

So now your kid is left at the bus stop with illegals because the bus driver doesn't want to stop.

You have

your every day, you're going in and you're fighting against prices.

The rate of the rise of inflation has slowed down, but they keep saying that you know inflation is falling.

No, the rate of how

the rate of how

of going up has slowed down, but we're still 20 to 23% inflation compared to when Trump was in office.

That's all he has to say.

He just has to say, my fellow Americans, how much are you paying for groceries right now?

What was your grocery bill last week?

How much did it cost you to fill up your tank of gas the last time you filled up at the gas station?

And then he says, and how much did it cost when I was president?

And if Kamala Harris says, oh, I'm going to impose price controls or some other communist measure, I think that was for the food industry, but that's her general idea, which showcases exactly what she is.

He just has to say, well, do you support continuing to send U.S.

dollars to Ukraine?

Because that's what's causing the inflation.

She's going to say, yes, this is a fight against Putin.

He's a tyrant, blah, blah, blah.

After she finishes her spiel, Trump just says, okay, so what I'm hearing you say is, yes, you want to continue to spend American dollars in Ukraine, which means you're saying to the American people that you don't care how much their gas and groceries cost.

I do care.

And I've proved that because when I was in the White House, people had a very different life than when you have been in the White House.

Yes.

When it comes up to Ukraine,

I mean, right now, Afghanistan is there on everybody's mind again because it was the anniversary.

And that was such a disaster.

And now

we are openly praising Ukrainians for their drone attacks on Moscow.

We would never put a...

If Canada became an enemy and Russia was sending drones over and military equipment and

they were bombing with drones New York or Washington, D.C.,

we would not put up with it.

They're not going to put up with it either.

And

how is she going to make the case that we are safer today?

Again, I go back to the mom worried about her kids.

I don't want to send my kids to war.

I don't want our world to to be at war.

I'm also, I don't want drag queens in my

school, you know, for my kids.

All of these things are so worse, so much worse that I just think that when people close the curtain,

this time around, they are going to reflect, do I want more of this?

Right.

That's why I encourage President Trump to stay on message, because if you get into the weeds on the personal stuff,

as entertaining as that might be for us to watch for for a moment the average American wants to talk about how things impacted them that's classic politics so with the war in Ukraine yes you can talk about these hypothetical war plans but the truth of the matter is Kamala is dragging us to the brink of war she arguably is the one who started this war by saying that Ukraine could be part of NATO that was what, a month before Russia invaded Ukraine.

There's no doubt that there was a correlation between those comments and the onset of this war.

I mean, she is a warmonger.

She wants to continue this.

And then what's worse is she wants to draft our daughters and send them to war.

I know.

Tell that to the average, the average suburban mom.

I have two young daughters.

The idea that Kamala Harris could send them off to war enrages me.

I have an 18-year-old daughter

that could be drafted, I guess, under her if we went into a war.

That is...

It's unacceptable.

Unacceptable.

I mean, and there's no Canada for my son to run to, but

I'd have to find some place for my son and daughter to run to.

They will not serve in a war with these people.

They won't.

I, as a dad, would say, do not do it.

Where do we have you go to?

And it's a very frightening prospect for our country.

We shouldn't be in a situation where we feel like we have to run away from our country.

I know.

Otherwise, our children.

I haven't felt that way.

No, I have not either.

And I'm a newer parent than you are.

My oldest is three and a half.

But the idea that I'm already having to think about all these different ways to protect her from the left trying to get her, whether it's trying to indoctrinate her on abortion, whether it's trying, I actually had last year, it was not this past November, but the November before, I had a debate with a local school board member outside of the polls.

I was walking in carrying my daughter on my hip, and the school board member or this candidate I knew was very leftist, and she wanted to talk about her policy.

So I'm like, sure, I enjoy this a little bit.

And I said to her, do you believe in teaching transgender ideology to children?

And she goes, oh, we need to be inclusive.

And I was like, I held up my daughter, who I don't use for political props, but she was just there with me voting.

And I said, so if my two-year-old at the time said she wanted to be a boy, you would transition her behind my back.

And essentially she said yes.

And I was like, evil.

That's evil.

That's what we're fighting against.

People who will say that to your face.

I know.

This is, I mean, President Trump should bring that up because.

You know, it's amazing what they'll say to our face.

Yeah.

And then what they say is a conspiracy theory that.

They always turn out now to be absolutely accurate.

And they eventually admit it.

Yes.

Okay.

Yeah, that is true.

The things that they say to our face are frightening enough.

When somebody is unclear with you in this administration, you should be terrified.

And I don't know why people continue to listen to liars.

You know, Donald Trump exaggerates.

He exaggerates.

I don't know, I mean, I can't think of anything of any importance that he has exaggerated or

lied about.

Can you think of anything he lied about?

Example we talked about a couple of times when he was saying

no one opposed Roe versus Wade being overturned, right?

Yeah.

Now, what he's talking about there is clearly there were a lot of people on the left, legal scholars, who did think it was bad law.

So he's summarizing a legitimate situation by overstating it.

Correct.

Correct.

That's like a general, a hyperbolic generalization, not a lie.

And I'm not trying to justify being precise, but there is a difference.

Yeah, there is a difference.

And especially when you know you're lying.

You know, it's one thing to say this and then, you know, and he said there are fine, fine people on both sides.

No, at this point,

you are engaging in evil because you know exactly what you're doing.

That is the exact opposite of what he said.

And they just, I guess, people just are, they're either numb to it or they hopefully are waking up and going, you know what?

These people have given me this crap

in my home, in my

bank account, and in my city.

I can't trust them anymore.

I just can't keep doing it.

Right.

And

obviously, Kamala is responsible for her own lies, but the institution that's responsible for allowing her to be a liar is the mainstream media.

And that's what I would advise President Trump.

He shouldn't come off as a bully.

There is the idea that if you have a man and a woman on stage and the man's being very harsh, there are a lot of women who will interpret that as being a bullying demeanor, whether or not it's true, that's simply the reality of how people perceive things.

And so he should say, what does that mean when she says a lie?

Because here are the statistics that show that that's not true and say, I don't know why you're telling an untruth except to deceive the American people, but this is why, this is a good example of the damage that happens when the mainstream media runs interference for you because you shouldn't be on the stage if you're not going to tell a truth, but that should have been weeded out years ago by media actually doing their job and asking questions about why you were contradicting your actions.

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Welcome to the Glen Beck program.

Pat Gray is joining us now.

I like your new

backdrop, I guess it is.

The screen with the

you're in the cowboy hat and the western outfit sitting on a horse.

Is Doris Kearns Goodwin coming up in a few days?

It's happening at WNBC.

Doris Kearns Goodwin.

It's happened in front of our eyes.

It's past tense.

It's happened.

Except Imos.

Just gone Imos.

Imus kept losing weight.

He was.

I mean, Imus.

No, no.

Glenn is actually in the midst of a streak here, which is pretty freaking impressive.

How much weight have you lost?

Can you talk to 52 pounds?

What?

You've lost 52 pounds?

It's noticeable.

Are you doing like Ozempic or something?

He's.

Cocaine.

Ah,

the cocaine is still flowing.

Yeah.

I've heard that works.

The cocaine.

Yeah, it does.

I heard it too for a long time, and I'm like, I'm going to give it a whirl.

What was the quote from

Squaid?

It was,

you know, cocaine, it's good at first.

Then it's good with problems.

Then it's just problems.

Yeah.

It's a good quote.

It's a good quote.

But yeah, the stuff looks great here.

Go on here.

I mean, you look like you actually were on that horse.

I mean, it's not like it's not AI.

Those are my cattle.

I was driving my cattle on my horse.

So it is actually your face on that body?

To me.

By the way, Stewart, you've changed your name to Charles anytime you see.

Charles McCord?

Yeah.

Yes.

These old Imus jokes are really

incredible.

They're so related.

I mean, somebody's got to pick up that mantle.

He's been gone since 2018.

Well, he wasn't a current reference 20 years before he died.

I will tell you that

I am going to start opening up the ranch for sick kids.

What a nice idea.

Right.

Glenn, that's really nice.

Hey, thank you.

See, I say this to my wife, and she's like, that's not nice.

And I'm like, what?

Of course it is.

I bring up sick kids.

We put them to work.

Pay them less than minimum wage.

We get stuff done.

I got a lot of fence to build.

Yeah.

It's a big property.

It's a big

You need a lot of sick kids to build those fence.

Anyway, anyway.

So tonight.

So tonight.

Tonight.

The big debate.

What do you think?

What do you think?

What do you think?

I just, I hope he sticks to policy.

I hope Donald Trump sticks to policy and tries to pin her down on

what was the pivot point for you?

You know, the question that you've asked for years.

What was your pivot point?

Why have you changed on absolutely everything?

You stand the opposite policy position on virtually everything you've ever outlined.

Where was your pivotal?

Reportedly.

We don't know that for a fact.

She doesn't say it.

Right.

The only one she actually said was fracking, right?

She said she no longer supports the fracking thing in that Dana Bash interview.

She hasn't.

She hasn't come out.

Well, she did.

Yes.

There is one other thing, and that's the ban on plastic straws.

She apparently has announced she's no longer in favor of the plastic straw.

And I haven't said that.

She hasn't announced that.

That was another statement, Lisa.

Oh, it's just a statement.

She hasn't actually announced that.

She hadn't come out and said the straw thing yet.

Was it on the website, though?

Because some of the stuff has come out on the website.

Yes, she did actually launch a policy page for the first time,

which is interesting.

By the way,

I wouldn't vote for anybody who wants paper straws.

I don't care if they, if they were, if it was Ronald Reagan part two,

I would not vote for, if he was like, I want zero taxes, but I want paper straws.

No, you're not getting my vote.

I have to tell you, what do they say?

Because dolphins choke on it or something?

There's no, there's no reason for it.

No, but it's not a problem.

It's just because they wind up in the ocean.

Yeah, they end up in the ocean.

500 million a day.

I don't care.

Nine-year-old kid stat.

It was legitimately a statistic that came from a child.

A child in a book report.

A

project for school.

Sorry, Glenco.

I mean, I just don't.

If you have ever used a paper straw, we celebrate it.

I used to use them as a kid, remember?

Yes.

We had paper straws.

We we didn't have plastic straws yeah so that was a newfangled thing I didn't know no I didn't know they've always went around yeah we went just for different reasons yeah so because we could we had to change it because you know we're cutting down too many trees with too much plastic no they sucked that's why or didn't suck

you know they were really they were very bad and I got to tell you I don't care what your reason is I don't care if people in Florida are born with plastic straws shooting out of their eyes.

I'm good with it.

I want my plastic.

Exactly.

If each plastic straw we used killed a family member of mine, I still want them.

That's where I am on it.

Yeah.

It's probably my most extreme issue.

I hate them.

Has there ever been an American citizen that has gotten through one single drink with one of those straws?

No.

Has it ever occurred?

No.

It's always two or three straws because they close up.

They're the worst.

Anyone who would entertain this, it's like, it's disqualifying for you as a leader.

So here is here's what Donald Trump's challenge is tonight, and this apparently is his strategy, is to hold her accountable for everything that is going on.

And it's not hard.

Listen to this.

This is 2021.

Listen, come on.

That is why also,

starting with our administration, we gave TPS temporary protected status to Haitian migrants, 55,000.

And then more recently, we extended temporary protected status to over a hundred thousand Haitian migrants for that very reason that they need support, they need protection.

I think that's all you should say after that.

I don't think that's a good approach.

I'm going to go with Neil.

How about, hey, so you're very proud of the Haitian immigrant thing.

How's that working out, Ohio?

I wonder, that's she's gonna, that's the type of thing I could see her trying to get him going on.

So he says some mistake.

Yeah, but there's no defense for you've got a town of 58,000 people where you dumped 20,000 immigrants into definitely no

who the hell do these people think they are

how is it that they how is it that our government just thinks it's okay to take our towns and just change the makeup of it.

Overnight.

Overnight.

Overnight.

It's insanity.

By the way, so that was Kamala in

21.

Cut three is J.D.

Vance months ago.

Chairman Brown, I'd like to ask unanimous consent to submit a letter for the record from the city of Springfield and our state,

the southwestern part of our state, which I think highlights a very real example of this particular concern straight from the horse's mouth itself.

Now this letter, I want to quote from it, Springfield has seen a surge in population through immigration that has significantly impacted our ability as a community to produce enough housing opportunities for all.

Springfield's Haitian population has increased 15 to 20,000 over the last four years in a community of under 60,000 previous residents, putting a significant strain on our resources and ability to provide ample housing for all of our residents.

And end quote there.

And Mike.

No objection, so thank you.

In my conversations with folks in Springfield, it's not just housing.

They're trying to build 5,000 new housing units, which is a very Herculean task in a town of about 55,000 people, but it's also hospital services, it's school services,

there are a whole host of ways in which this immigration problem, I think, is having very real human consequences.

Listen to his hatred.

I mean, that was from July.

That was from July.

They've been dumping people into our communities in the middle of the night.

They've been flying them in in the middle of the night, dumping them into our communities, changing the culture.

I have to tell you,

this isn't racism.

I would be pissed off if in my town, what do you think we have in my town?

About 20,000?

Just in my town?

Yeah, I don't know.

Yeah, but 20 or 30,000.

Do you think less than that?

If they took and they added 30%

Californians, I'd be pissed off.

Yeah, it changes the political makeup of your area.

It just changes the culture entirely.

Yeah.

And, you know, for people who grew up in Springfield,

I liked my town.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And too, I think even if you added that percentage of people of any sort to a town of that size, it would be dramatic, right?

It is.

And those numbers are, I mean, I

reading the media coverage on it, they act like all of this is a lie.

Like the and there was that video that was put out there.

This is a lie.

That's what they say.

I mean, they just keep saying it's just racism.

People didn't, those people didn't come.

They came, but like they're just, you know, they're lying about these cultural changes.

I don't care if they're from New York and they're all white people.

I don't care.

You'll change the makeup of my town.

You'll change the culture.

Anybody who is culturally different

and right now the blue, just the blue and red.

You take,

would you be fine, New York, if all of a sudden the government just, I mean, we wouldn't do it, it would be a civil war, but they started just importing into your city in, you know, New York City, 30% Texan?

Would you be fine with that?

Of course you wouldn't.

Of course you wouldn't.

Does that make you anti-Texan?

Yeah, probably in your case, it does.

Does it make me

anti-Californian?

Yeah.

In my case, it does.

It's the cultural thing.

We don't agree on what the culture should be like.

And my problem is, is these people just didn't find their way.

It's not like, you know, where do we want to live?

I don't know.

Let's look around.

What fits us?

The federal government just dumped these people off into a city.

Arbitrarily.

Yeah.

Why that community?

Why?

I don't know.

They're just changing the makeup.

Do you remember Michelle Bachman?

This is almost 20 years ago saying they're just, the State Department is just importing all these Somalis into Minnesota.

I do remember that.

And she was called.

How's that worked out?

Yeah, she's called a racist.

Yeah, how is it working out?

How is it working out?

Not well.

No, especially for the cats.

Is that even true?

Yeah.

It's absolutely true.

There was a woman.

You sure?

Yeah.

Got some proof here with this video of

neighbors calling out this woman for, well, eating a cat.

What did you do?

Why'd you kill the cat?

Smile for me.

Smile over your teeth.

Go like this.

Did you eat that cat?

She's got a cat in her teeth.

Did you eat it?

No, why'd you kill it?

Did you guys see all this?

No, we pulled up and she was just laying there with me.

Did you see her eating it?

She was eating it.

She was eating it?

Yeah, she was.

You can call the humane society to see if they'll come pick this cat up.

It's deceased.

Well, being eaten.

Yeah, that tends to,

yeah, usually.

Deceased people.

In most circumstances.

Now we're living beings.

Crazy?

Well,

I would guess that's...

Or is it a cultural difference?

It might be a little both.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

Now, it does seem that, at least the reporting on this, is that it was a real incident.

was a real person eating a real cat.

That's actually part of it.

She was not, however, a Haitian immigrant, and it was in Canton, not Springfield, Ohio.

Okay.

So I don't know that that necessarily makes this all that much better.

Because I don't want to, you know, I think the I think the cat memes that are going around, I think that's just a response to

you're importing people who, for instance,

Somalis will come in and they stand on the toilet seat and take a crap squatting.

Because that's the way they do it in their country.

And they did it so much, they had to put signs inside bathroom stalls.

Do not stand on toilet seats.

Wow.

Sit down.

Okay.

It's, I mean, it's just a cultural thing.

Yeah.

But look, I mean,

any,

this is happening all over the place.

They're trying to make it into this racist thing.

We played, what, 20 clips yesterday of

African Americans standing up and yelling at their town council saying, what is going on?

Yeah.

Who are you to do this?

Right.

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