The Case for Congress to Move OUT of Washington | Guest: Mary Harrington | 6/2/23

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Well, hello, Stu.

How you doing, Glenn?

Oh, my.

Gosh, I'm good.

Yes.

We've got a big vacation coming up.

I do.

We're on the verge of it.

Yeah.

You've got to be excited about that.

I've got like 800,000 things I have to do before vacation.

Right.

Yeah.

That's how this works.

I know.

And then you spend most of your vacation doing those things.

So it's not a vacation at all.

Well, it's going to be because we're going to Afghanistan.

I hear it is beautiful.

Oh, really?

This time of year.

I know you have a timeshare in the Sudan, but you're going to Afghanistan this time.

Afghanistan this time.

Yeah, it's going to be very, very nice.

All right.

Where should we start?

I, you know, I want to leave you here for the next couple of weeks, and I want to arm you with something that I think is really, really good.

Stu and I have been starting to say it.

It's going to be interesting to see how that works out.

Whenever you have a problem in front of you, if you say that, it kind of makes it okay.

Yeah, it does.

Because you don't take ownership of that problem.

Hey, Donald Trump and

Ron DeSantis are yelling at each other and calling each other names, and it's really not good.

I wonder how that's going to work out.

It's going to be interesting to watch.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Oh, look, we're in primary season, so everybody hates each other again on our side.

It's going to be interesting.

Sure is.

It's going to be an interesting 18 months.

It sure is.

So

I want to add on to that

because I had Spencer Clavin.

He is doing our podcast that is out on the blaze now and going to be out for all the podcast users in what Saturday on Saturday tomorrow.

And we had this conversation yesterday, and it was great.

And he said, kind of the same thing:

I said, How do you talk to people

who are just unreasonable?

You know, look at, let me take you here.

Let me show you the horror on the streets of Philadelphia, cut five.

Now, I lived in Philadelphia,

it was always

not the best,

but this is

less suboptimal, less suboptimal.

I mean, these people are zombies.

They are just all drugged out, laying in the streets, or stooped over,

all in Philadelphia.

Now, let me show you something else.

This is in Oakland.

This is people coming and speaking.

This happened this week in Oakland, California.

Not exactly

a red part of California.

It's not MAGA.

No, it's not MAGA.

It's MAGA territory.

So these are the Oakland residents that are coming to Oakland to demand a change from the city.

Listen to this.

I'm Louise.

I'm the owner of Studio Naga.

I'm Lewis.

Owner of Studio Naga.

I email you in your office every week.

I email homeless.

I email Macra.

I email everyone.

And you know the situation.

I have a person who's mentally deranged, who's living 10 feet from the door of my business, who has threatened me multiple times, who has threatened other people, who defecates on our property, on our business.

And I'm being told by macro that they can't do anything.

I'm being told by the police that there's got to be something in the middle.

Because as women have said,

I don't want to have to get threatened with sexual violence when I go to work.

I don't want my children to see this as a normal behavior from an individual on the street that they get.

He's been naked, he's masturbated in front of them, he's urinated in front of them.

And there's nothing I'm told the police can do.

So your policy of not enforcing some of this 150 feet from a school, 50 feet from a residence or business, that policy has a direct effect on education on their family.

Okay, now listen to that.

Can Can you imagine that?

Can you imagine that?

Why are you paying taxes?

What am I paying taxes for?

Okay, listen to this.

Crime change cut to number seven.

I understand it comes from a place of hurt, generally when people are being violent on some level, in some form, it's coming from a place of hurt.

Sure.

But if they're doing hundreds of gunpoint robberies, mostly to women, to people of all races, where I have lived in poverty my whole life.

It makes it hard for us to keep jobs, to find jobs, to live life, to fight through mental health issues, to fight through our poverty.

And it's not just one demographic of women, it's all kinds of women being targeted.

This is systemic violence as well.

Yeah.

So here's what I want to leave you with.

When you start to have conversations, because all of the data points are there, before when they were like, we're going to reimagine the police, we were like, that's not going to work.

That's the dumbest idea I've ever heard.

Okay.

Then that obviously, you know, wasn't necessarily the best thing to say, but that's what was out of our mouths.

I know it was my mouth at the time.

Are you out of your mind?

Now all the data points are there.

You show things like this

and say, so let's talk about defunding the police and saying that the homeless, you know, can live anywhere they want and all of this.

How's that working out for you?

Just ask them that.

How's that working out?

Can we just look at the facts?

How's the city doing?

How's crime?

How's crime compared from a red city to a blue city?

Is there anything we can learn from this?

How's it working out?

And just be kind about it, but it's time we just start talking about facts.

This is empirical evidence.

This is how science is done.

I don't follow scientists because I know scientists can be wrong.

I follow actual science.

And that is, I have a theory.

I'm going to now test it out.

and I'm going to look at the facts.

So when they say, you just don't even know you're a racist.

No, I'm following science.

Here's how it works.

You propose a theory.

I think police are making our cities racist and

we would be safer in the minority communities if there weren't any police.

Okay?

You said defund because you want to reimagine.

Now, we've done that in several cities.

So let's look at those cities because if it was working and it was better, I'd be with you.

I'd change my mind.

I don't want to be right.

I want to live in a great country that treats everybody fairly, that that looks at everyone equally, looks at people who are sick and says, they're sick.

How can we help them?

I don't want to live in crime and neither do you.

So

how's that working out?

That's science.

We did a show on Studos America called Studo's The Collapse of the American City a couple of weeks ago and highlighted a place called Old Station Subs in Phoenix.

Listen to this.

This is their every day, every day.

69-year-old owner who wants to own, opens a sub shop that's been around for a while.

This is his current situation.

There are hundreds of people sleeping within a few blocks of Old Station, most of them suffering from mental illness or substance abuse as they lived out lived out their private lives with public view of the restaurant.

They slept on Joe and Debbie's outdoor tables, defecated on their back porch, smoked methamphetamine in their parking lot, washed clothes in their bathroom sink, pilfered bread and gallons of gallon jars of pickles from their delivery trucks, had sex on their patio, masturbated within view of their employees, and lit fires for warmth that burned down palm trees and scared away customers.

Within a half mile of the restaurant, the police have been called to an average of eight incidents a day in 2022.

There were at least 1,097 calls for emergency medical help, 573 fights or assaults, 236 incidents of trespassing, 185 fires, 140 thefts, 125 armed robberies, 13 sexual assaults, and 4 homicides.

The remains of a 20 to 24 week-old fetus,

20 to 24-week-old fetus were burned and left next to a dumpster in November.

Two people were stabbed to death in their tents.

16 others were found dead from overdoses, suicides, hypothermia, or excessive heat.

A group of young men in the encampment had begun selling off pieces of the public sidewalk, charging each person $20 a week for what they called lot rent and security.

That had seemed ridiculous to an encampment resident until he decided not to pay and then awoke one one night to the smell of someone dousing his tent with lighter fuel.

Then there was Keisha, barely out of her teens, who had skittered around the encampment like a scared cat, wary of everyone, carrying a few old dolls and crying sometimes.

Joel had tried to watch out for her, offering her water for a few minutes inside whenever she was upset.

But one weekend, when he wasn't around, the temperature was 115 degrees, she lay down on the curb near his gallery and died of heat exposure and dehydration.

Story after after story after story of this.

And this goes back to one of these court rulings where they said, Of course, it's okay to camp outside.

That's okay.

Of course, it is.

So, this is completely devastated.

And this is the story of one Sandwood shop.

But this is repeating itself all over the country.

You know, here's the thing:

we have to understand that

America is not

all John Phillips Souza, marching bands,

perfect military, and white picket fences.

Okay, we have to just understand that.

I never thought it was.

I thought we were better than we are now,

but I never thought it was.

We've done some really bad things.

I'm willing to admit that.

I know at this point you are too, because we've gone through this together.

We actually did soul searching.

I think the vast majority of Americans have changed.

The vast majority of Americans on both sides have changed.

Now, we've changed because we've done soul searching and we've went, yeah, geez, we really screwed things up.

Boy, you know what?

The liberals were right about the companies

becoming the state.

I didn't think that 20 years ago.

And they were right about the FBI

and

spy apparatus in this country.

They were right.

Okay,

all right.

Now, why do I say that?

Not because I'm forced to, but because I'm watching the evidence.

Nobody convinced me of that.

The evidence is overwhelming.

Now, while that evidence is coming out and changing hardcore

Republicans, hardcore conservatives, really pro-police, pro-military, all of the things that they've always hated.

As we're changing because we see the facts,

they're changing in spite of the facts and embracing the things they rejected.

This is not logical.

It's just not logical.

And

it won't endure.

And the further we get down this path, I really am beginning to understand the gods of the copybook headings with terror and slaughter return is the last line uh of that rudyard kipling poem and i'm beginning to really understand it it doesn't just mean war doesn't mean that you know you're going to have some somebody come in and just write everything

we're experiencing the terror and slaughter right now we're experiencing it

How many people in this country now are living in fear that weren't living in fear 10 years ago?

How many people who own a business in a town live in fear of what the police won't or will do?

Of what's happening outside of their streets?

Anybody who says they're compassion, compassionate, and they heard what Stu just read that's happening in Arizona.

How do you claim compassion here?

How is this compassionate?

You are not helping the lowest.

You're enriching the rich right now.

You're not even, you're not helping the millionaires.

You're helping the billionaires.

You're empowering them.

You're destroying.

So many lives that are living on the streets that are in the worst shape.

And how are you doing that?

By

disregarding every

known principle.

There's a difference between facts.

Facts can change.

Principles don't change.

There's something that man has found to be true over thousands of years.

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Let's, did you see the president fall after his Air Force speech yesterday?

I did, yeah.

I feel bad.

I was going to say, when you said, did you see the president fall, you needed to get more specific.

Yeah, the Air Force thing.

But yes, the Air Force thing yesterday.

I mean, it's just, it's so bad.

It is so bad.

It's so bad.

And, like, honestly, like, we say this stuff all the time.

We feel bad for him, and it's embarrassing for the country.

Oh, my God.

You look weak on the world stage.

Really weak.

We can't even stand on the world stage.

I know.

Literally.

Literally.

Listen to this.

Listen to this.

Cut 10.

This is Biden in the Air Force speech yesterday before he fell.

The only nation built on an idea.

And we hold these truths to be self-evident.

That all women and men are created equal.

Endowed by the creator with certain inalienable rights.

Life, liberty, pursuit of.

That's the organizing principle.

Lemerick.

Okay.

First of all, that's not what it's.

It's life, liberty, and pursuit.

And we've always talked about we need to just run after things.

We're just pursuing.

We're in pursuit.

We're in hot pursuit.

I'm nothing specific.

Yeah.

Yeah, no, it's really, it's really bad.

He does that every time on that line.

He's like, in pursuit of, you know it.

You know it.

I mean,

yeah, because you apparently don't.

Yeah, because he has done that several times.

And you look at this.

And part of me was watching that yesterday and saying, like, even if you think he's somehow mentally able to do this job, right?

Even if you think he's...

I don't think he is.

But, like, I guess you're convincing yourself of that if you're a Democrat and intending I'm voting for the guy.

Like, what they're doing, just having him do normal political events is putting him in serious danger.

Like, when you're 81 years old and you fall like that, and he may be able to make it through this.

Break a hip and you die.

You break a hip, you could die.

There are all sorts of things that could happen here.

And they keep trotting him out there to try to lie to us and make us believe that he is physically capable of doing this.

These basic things that most people are just able to do, he is not able to do.

And when you get to that point, you've had elderly relatives, but you would never put them out, you know, shaking hands down a line every day

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My dad does that on stage my dad falls on stage like that it's the last speech he makes

i'm like dad don't do this anymore you can't do this anymore okay i'm sorry but you're not 40 you know the speech was fine it wasn't but the speech was fine whatever right but you can't be walking all over and doing all of these things let mom come out and take your arm yeah and and they of course won't do that because they they care more about politics and power than this guy's life and his health it's really sad It really is sad.

I mean, if I need to bring up an example of that, let's go to Dianne Feinstein, who is mesmerized by the fact that Kamala Harris would show up at the Senate, which is something that is very basic of a function of the Senate, but she was mesmerized by it.

She doesn't understand what she's voting for.

She doesn't understand.

Why is she here?

Because

she's the vice president.

She sits there.

She's technically the head of the Senate.

Yeah.

What do you mean, what is she there?

I mean, it's disgraceful.

And disgraceful.

I I mean,

look at the carnage here.

Look at the carnage.

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She doesn't matter.

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The guy from Philadelphia, I mean,

the senator from Pennsylvania.

Fetterman, yeah.

Fetterman, he doesn't matter.

They're just, they destroy people.

They just destroy people.

That's not who we are as a people.

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We're more than, we are more than politics.

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Welcome to the Glen Beck program.

I just moved that to hour three because that's what we were discussing.

You don't listen.

No, we didn't listen.

We're literally discussing that topic that you weren't listening to.

Because I was busy moving because you didn't listen to me.

This is the kind of.

I can't wait for you to go on vacation.

Well, can you please leave early?

Yes, please.

Oh, my gosh.

Seriously.

You know where you should go?

Where?

You know, Russia is a great place.

How about Ukraine?

Right.

That would be good.

This time of year is beautiful.

Yeah.

Beautiful.

You know, I might go to Ukraine.

I'm not saying I am, but I'm not saying it either.

You know what?

Go.

Yeah.

Go.

See why you should go every day.

So flag waving on the bottom.

You know what?

There's a thing.

There's a beautiful area of Ukraine called the Front Lines.

Just ask people where to go, and they'll send yourself to the city.

So that's a restaurant?

Oh, it's kind of like a restaurant.

Oh, wow.

Front lines.

I'll write that down.

Things are delivered to you there, right?

Oh, really?

The meal is coming.

Rapidly, too.

Yeah, rapidly.

And you know what?

Everything always comes in hot.

There's never like a cold.

By the way,

somebody that's just ordering up some more delicious dishes

at the front line is Lindsey Graham.

Cut four, please.

We're going to cap spending at a level that we cannot expand the Navy.

And in the same period of time, China is going to go from 310 ships over a 10-year period to 440.

Less money for the Marines, less money for the Army, less ships for the Navy.

at a time of great conflict.

Not a penny in this bill to help Ukraine defeat Putin.

Oh, dude.

They're going on the offensive as I speak.

Oh, wow.

And we need to send a clear message to Putin that when it comes to your invasion of Ukraine, we're going to support the Ukrainians to ensure your loss.

Yeah.

If we don't do that,

then we're going to

be able to do that.

Yeah, that's amazing.

That's amazing.

That's incredible.

I'm so sick of these.

You know what?

I think the three of us are pretty hawkish.

pretty hawkish yeah uh you know generally the past yeah been been in the past

no

no you've

spent out of control no not another dime sorry i know why do you love why do you love vladimir putin why are you in favor of russia what are you a communist is that what you are i mean that's what you're accused of if you don't fully support this war uh for ukraine and the conversation is not another dime going to the military they increased spending in in this bill to the military.

I know.

No, no, no.

I know.

I'm not saying, I'm not saying we crush our military.

No.

I'm saying, you know what?

We should be taking care of our military over Ukraine's military.

We should be taking care of business here.

Before you do anything else, more infrastructure, more school loans being forgiven, whatever.

Pay for the things that actually keep the lights on.

That would be nice.

And we should point out that we went through the last couple of weeks talking about this dumb debt ceiling bill, talked to people like Chip Roy and Mike Lee, even Thomas Massey about what was going into this bill.

And there was a Republican revolt at the last minute.

And that revolt was about the fact that, according to Republicans, we weren't spending enough money.

That was the opposition to the bill.

We were not spending enough money.

No, that's his opposition.

No, not Mike Lee's.

Obviously.

We talked to Mike Lee on the air.

In case case people maybe missed that it's good good to note that that was not his but the organized revolt against this yesterday was from people like lindsey graham and roger wicker who by the way is coming up uh for uh a primary potential here coming to remember that we did not spend enough that was the line we didn't spend enough

That's not the Democrats' complaint over the bill.

It's our complaint over the bill if you think you're yourself as you're.

You know how,

and maybe I'm alone in, maybe I'm alone in this, but sometimes I get a little frustrated because I think my kids are ungrateful.

And yeah,

no parents have ever since.

Yeah, I think it's just probably me.

But they're a little ungrateful.

And,

you know, we're, we're, you know, let's say you go out and you, you do something and they say,

what do you mean?

Why aren't?

What do you mean?

Why aren't we doing this?

Because it's expensive.

And

you're like, oh, you're going to find out what that and is really soon.

I feel like we are the parents with these ingrates in Washington, and we've just let them spend and spend and spend.

And we've raised these snotty, ungrateful children that just think money grows on trees.

I'm tired of having the same conversation in my home and then have to turn around and tell it to our leadership in the country.

These things cost money.

Where do you you think you're getting that money?

Well,

we just get more money.

Yeah, thank you, Mr.

13-year-old.

It doesn't work that way.

Mommy and daddy have to work

to pay those bills.

It's just

no concept whatsoever.

They consider it their money.

And that's why the Democrats, like Biden, treat

tax cuts as if it's a cut in their income

and it's

an expenditure, actually.

Yes.

They think that tax cuts are spending

because to them it is because our money is there.

They've already sent it.

They've already sent it.

We're already getting it.

We planned on it forever.

Well, we planned on Social Security.

How's that?

Yeah.

How's that?

You know, I mean, it is

the, you know, the inmates are running the asylum.

And, you know, I'm just,

I'm glad that there were 70 people that stood up in the House.

That surprised me.

I have not seen that.

I don't even know if we saw that kind of stuff during the Tea Party.

Did we?

Sometimes, you know.

Let's be clear, though.

Many of those may have done it because they knew the bill was going to pass anyway.

And so they were allowed to vote no because they needed to for their constituents.

What needs to happen again for the millionth time is that all of those representatives need to govern from their own home district.

Amen.

Where they're surrounded by their constituents every single day and they hear from them every day.

We have been saying this since 2001.

Yeah.

Everybody, how do we protect the Capitol?

How do we protect Congress?

It's easy.

Break it up.

Yes.

Put everybody, we have the technology.

Make them legislate from home.

Yep.

Put them in their own office.

They have to stay at home.

Maybe they get together for a cocktail party once every year every year.

You know, I was going to say once every five years.

Oh, darn it.

Okay.

Anyway, maybe they get together for, you know, the state of the union.

But

no,

because the

people

don't get to,

if you will, lobby their own representative because they don't have

the lobbyist living in Washington with a big, huge, fancy building that takes these guys out to dinner all the time.

I want them in our own communities.

I think it's the single best thing we could do to fix this country.

It is.

And we have, there's no reason.

You know, the reason why they picked Phil, the reason why they picked Washington was because it's a swamp.

Malaria, there were mosquitoes everywhere.

Nobody wanted to live there.

Okay.

It was a swamp.

That's why our founders picked it because nobody would want to go back.

Yeah.

Can I toss another one, another reform out there?

Take your temperature on this.

Have you followed the debate on potentially massively expanding the house?

I think this is pretty interesting because the founders.

We've stopped.

We've stopped adjusting, right?

We stopped adjusting for population, right?

So back in 1790, we averaged one representative for every 33,000 people.

Oh, wow.

Currently, we're one representative at about 750,000 people.

I thought it was 600,000.

Yes, between, you know, it's gone.

It was 700,000 in 2018.

It's a little higher than that now.

Soon now.

Right.

And so we really have lost that connection from representative to people.

33,000 is, I mean, it's still a large number, of course, but it's, it's a manageable, you'd know what your voters really believe.

They would be in your

on your street.

Yeah.

But election time, they would knock on your door.

33,000.

Every, yeah, like you would have a real relationship with these people.

And that was really the idea back in the day.

That's how it was supposed to work.

Now we've let this thing expand.

And I don't know that you're going to get, I mean, you'd have to, you know, you'd go, the increase would be really, really significant if we went back to 33,000.

But even if we, you know, doubled it or quadrupled the amount of people, you know, having 400 or 1,600 people in the house, not much of a difference as far as, you know, cost.

And I mean, you'd have to, there'd be some logistical concerns there.

You'd have to, you'd have to solve.

But it would make people, and going back to their districts would solve it completely yeah uh but you know having this where you'd have people actually accountable to a manageable number of voters and constituents i think would make a big difference and it would be a lot harder to lobby them i mean the more people you have there the harder it is to lobby you're these people don't carry nearly as much power

i i think it's an interesting fact i think i'm i i you know just based on what knowledge i have based on what you just said i think i'm for that because i you know and you don't have to spend any extra money because they're going to be operating in their office.

Yeah.

Well, if you did that, yes.

If you did that, though, you wouldn't need necessarily to expand the number of them.

And you know, another change I want to make, another change I want to make.

I just want to go back.

What you're suggesting is we go back to the Constitution, right?

So another thing I'd like to do is go back and put the Supreme Court back into the place that was built for them.

The basement of the Capitol.

Okay, I'm serious.

I'm serious.

The Supreme Court was just an afterthought.

When they were designing the Capitol, they didn't put chambers in because it was like, yeah, well, they're not that important.

They are the least powerful of the three branches, okay?

The least powerful.

That's the way they're supposed to be.

But Congress, which is supposed to be the most powerful, has made the judicial branch the most powerful.

And who's responsible for that?

That's FDR.

He built them this palace.

They moved out of the basement.

They should go back to the basement.

All they are is just a bunch of clerks that are supposed to be going, uh,

yeah, actually, you can't do that.

Yeah, you're going to have to reword this.

Hey, guys, let me pound on the ceiling with a broom.

Guys,

you want to do this?

You have to change it this way.

That's what they're supposed to be.

We've just distorted distorted this whole system.

It's true.

The power, I mean, the imbalance is serious.

This is what the Reigns Act was about as well.

When you're talking about, you know, taking power away from these unelected bureaucrats and these agencies and giving it back to Congress.

Like, Congress seems to not want this power because they don't want to deal with voters.

They want to be able to say that they had nothing to do with it.

And instead of, that was the one thing, I guess, if you can criticize the founders on anything, is they always assumed people would want to keep their power.

And so there's a constant competition

competition between these people.

But that is the problem, though, also with the Supreme Court.

They want their power, which makes people like John Roberts do things he knows isn't right.

It's why they are protesting

in front of the justice's house, blatantly illegal, then threatening to kill them because they want them to acquiesce.

Everybody wants to be liked.

Everybody wants to be liked.

And nobody wants to be condemned by half the country.

So

that's what they're hearing.

And we're not really doing anything.

There's a theory going around that the reason why Roe versus Wade was overturned is because for the very first time,

they understood the right has had enough.

They've had enough.

And they stood up.

So now, what are we going to do?

What are we going to do?

Before, they were only afraid of one side.

Now they knew we're serious.

We're serious.

And that's the only reason.

That's one theory from a pretty credible source that that's what happened.

You just have to stand up and say, no, we're going to rule the law here.

We're going to live the law

period, not some popularity contest.

All right, back in a minute.

Thank you, Pat.

You're in next week, right?

Yeah, looking forward to it.

I will be listening.

Patton's too doing the show.

We've got it next week.

Pat's got some solo days.

I think there's Steve Dace for a day, some really good fill-ins for you.

We can never live up to your high standards or whatever we're calling them these days, but it will be a lot of fun.

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She wrote, and I quote, 15 years ago, I was living in a queer commune and calling myself Sebastian.

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Now you are canceled for being honest about sex.

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Hello, America.

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I found this woman giving a talk on, I don't know, YouTube or something about a month ago, and I'm so excited to have her on.

I think she's brilliant.

You are going to love her.

And I think, at least what I like, I like people who have changed.

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She wrote, and I quote,

15 years ago, I was living in a queer

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calling myself Sebastian.

I spend hours on message boards angrily defending the queer theory belief that gender is a performance.

She doesn't believe any of those things now.

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The contributing editor for Unheard.

She is the author of Feminism Against Progress.

She used to be known as Sebastian.

Her name is Mary Harrington.

Welcome, Mary.

How are you?

I'm very well, thank you.

How are you?

I am good.

I don't even remember where you were speaking, but I saw a clip of you online, and

you're very clear and clarified.

And you have a lot of fans in my producing staff as well.

So thank you for coming on.

It's a pleasure to be here.

So

I started with

what you said 15 years ago.

I was living in a queer commune, calling myself Sebastian, spent hours on the message boards angrily defending the queer theory belief that gender is a performance.

Now

you are being canceled for being honest about the differences between male and female.

Why are you no longer Sebastian?

What happened?

Well,

it was kind of a thought experiment, changing my name to Sebastian.

I wanted to see what it would be like.

And it turned out that I just didn't really like it very much.

I didn't like,

it felt like it felt too big of an ask in the end to say to my friends, to say to my family, more than anything, that

this name that you've known me by and this person who you always thought I was, that's not who I am anymore.

And I want you to call me something different.

That just felt like I didn't have the right to ask that.

And it honestly just made me uncomfortable.

I know

there are people who don't take that, there are a great many more people who don't take that view now, but that was just where I got to with it.

And also, I just didn't really want to be a dude.

I wasn't really sure that I wanted to be a woman at the time because that seemed to come with a whole lot of downsides.

But

it was an experiment to see what it felt like.

And then, in the end,

I backtracked.

I walked back Sebastian fairly quickly and went by Sebastian Mary for a while, which I still kind of like.

I mean, Sebastian Mary had a nice feel to it.

Yeah, sure.

And, you know, I wore my hair short and I wore, you know, whatever, whatever clothes I wore.

And I was kind of a,

I was experimental about everything when I was 21, as so many people are, I guess.

But in the end, I fell off the wagon.

I just realized it just wasn't making me happy.

And

I don't think I figured that out.

It wasn't like I woke up one day and was like, actually, this all sucks and I'm going to become a reactionary.

It didn't happen that quickly.

It was like

my whole life sort of fell apart in 2008 because the startup I founded came to pieces and it was partly my fault.

And I ended up just, I lost my whole circle of friends.

It's like, I don't know if you've ever had a business fail underneath you, but it's like getting divorced.

Oh, yeah.

No.

It really messes with your mind.

Yeah.

But it's the bet.

When you fail in whatever, it's the only time you eventually look back and say, that's when I really grew.

So if you can make it through.

I mean, it was a world-changing, just a properly life-changing.

moment for me because it really threw into relief a lot of the things which I, a lot of the beliefs that I based what I was doing on.

And a lot of those beliefs really were, I guess you would call them woke now, although that wasn't what they were called then.

But I was pretty woke about everything.

And I really kind of followed through on all of it.

You know, I just didn't really want, I didn't really want any hierarchy or any boundaries or any structure to anything, really.

And inevitably, that meant I had a very anarchic, unstructured, unboundaried life, which is just not very nice, especially as you get older.

And I began to realise I was lonely and

I was getting older and

I still had no money and I didn't really know where I was going to be living from one year to the next and it just wasn't very nice.

And

it was sheer luck really that.

I remember my grandmother gave me some advice.

We were very close.

She was a wonderful, very wise woman, my grandmother.

She'd been a farmer and a doctor and she was pretty tough.

And she looked at me one day when I went to visit her and she said, you know what, Mary, I think you should grow your hair and get married.

And I was like, whoa, because at the time I wore my hair extremely short and I was living in queer communes and just really a very, very, very some distance from growing my hair and getting married.

But I guess it must have stuck in my mind because as it turned out, it was really good advice.

As it turns out, looking normal gives you a lot more freedom to be whoever you are.

And being married, actually, as it turns out, gave me

a lot more freedom to be whoever you are.

So that is my discovery with

religion when it is understood and put in its proper place.

That, you know, for me, there is my relationship with God, and then there's my religion, which I choose

that has the framework that helps me be a better person.

And for me,

a more

structured system, the better for me, because I have found now that

freedom really can come from just playing by the rules.

It's a lot easier.

But they would some people would say that that's you're selling out to the system.

Well, I don't know.

I think it's it's just much more that it's very difficult to be creative if you don't have any boundaries.

I mean I'll give you a very recent example.

It's a very very tiny example.

You know there are a whole lot there are lots of

there are lots of people particularly women who are afraid that if they if they have kids, they'll end up tied down and they won't be able to do anything self-expressive.

I only have one child because I started fairly late.

My husband, I had to work, it's half-term, which is a week of school holidays at the moment here.

And at the beginning of the week, my husband took our daughter up to visit the in-laws.

I had to stay, I had to stay here and work.

And I thought, oh, okay, so I'll get all of my work done in one day, and then I'll do whatever the next day, or I'll do a whole load of other things.

And as it turned out, I did not get all of my work done in one day.

I did exactly the same amount of work, then, as I would have done if I'd been working during school hours, I just spent the rest of of the time faffing around.

As it turns out, the boundary, you know, although sometimes I think, ah, I have to, I have to, though, I'm in the middle of something, I don't want to have to put it down to go and collect my daughter and do bum stuff.

But as it turns out, if I don't have that boundary, I don't get any more done.

And

I'm just wandering around feeling more than lonely.

And it really took me back to being 25 and having no constraints on my time and just not really getting a whole lot done.

And it made me realize that actually

the constraints which I, the beneficial, you know, healthy, life-giving, life-affirming and loving constraints that my family imposes on me,

they're not an obstacle to my creative work now.

They're its basic enabling conditions.

And I can't do anything that I do without that.

So, Mary, we have...

We have...

And I suppose you could generalize back to a faith as well.

You know, you put those constraints on yourself and they allow you to flourish.

I think that's very true.

We see things now, I think, as a choice.

And when my mom and dad got married in the 1950s, and my mom was, you know, in her 20s and early 20s.

And so when the 60s came around, she was too

old for the burn your bra thing.

She was not of the hippie generation.

But she also didn't want to be a part of the 1950s stay-at-home.

She was very creative,

everything else.

And

she ended up

in suicide and

massive drug abuse because people, doctors used to write prescriptions, oh, you're sad.

Okay, take this, you'll be fine.

And I think that's the way we look at things.

It's either you are, you can do everything a man, you're, you're, you are a man if you want to be,

or

you're going to be taking Valium at home with the kids and you've got no life except this,

you know,

slavery kind of housewife kind of life.

Those are both bogus, aren't they?

Uh-huh.

Well, I mean,

I've never met a stay-at-home mum who just spends all of her time vacuuming and making money.

Those women don't,

if they exist, I've never, maybe they exist, I don't know, Glenn, but I've never met one.

The stay-at-home mums who I know, they organize groups,

they hang out with one another,

they get stuff done.

I mean, back in the 19th century,

bourgeois housewives were pretty much around the world.

I mean, there's an amazing history.

My great friend Erika Bakiochi recently wrote a history of

women's organizing in 19th century America and just how extensive and how networked and how effective these women were at bringing about social change, you know, on a huge range of, huge range of important issues and a lot of them had you know they were issues of faith or they were issues of temperance or they were issues of you know the looking looking after the poor or the needy or whatever you know these are women who've got things done and the fact that they weren't drawing a salary directly for doing it was neither here nor there you know there are there are a great many more ways to be be a part of the larger the larger social fabric than than just kind of turning up in an office and drawing down a salary.

I think there's something very limited and very

narrow-minded about

thinking about it in that way.

And I think there's, you know,

it's a tough time now, especially for those women who really do want to be mothers, because

a lot of them end up having to work more than they would like to because that flexibility just isn't there.

And I can think of a great many women who bite your arm off at the opportunity to be a stay-at-home mum or even just to work a bit more flexible.

And it's, yeah, and we've ended up with less choice in some other ways.

I think also just to not be looked down on.

I mean, I think one of the worst things that

women say,

I'm just a housewife.

I'm just a mom.

What do you mean?

You're just a mom?

What does that mean?

And that's because

we're just a stay-at-home mom.

What'd you say?

I'm just a stay-at-home mom, and every stay-at-home mom I've ever met, including me, will recognize

you go to a party and somebody asks, so what do you do?

And you say, well, I'm a mom.

And you can see they're already looking over your shoulder for somebody more interesting to talk to.

Every stay-at-home mom I've ever met will recognize that.

But I'll tell you something else.

You get it worse from liberals than you do from conservatives.

You're much more likely

in a relatively conservative circle of people to

have the work that you do acknowledged and respected and responded to in a respectful way than you are amongst progressives, no matter how much lip service they pay to liberalism and to women having choice.

In fact, the reality is that in terms of that moral hierarchy,

the choice to be a mum is nowhere.

When we come back, I need to take one minute break.

When we come back,

Mary, I want you to talk about the feminism of care and the feminism of freedom, what the difference is between and also cyborg feminism.

Coming up in just a second, her name is Mary Harrington.

The book that she has written is Feminism Against Progress.

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So, Mary, first of all, let me ask you, feminism of care, feminism of freedom, what is the difference?

And how does this history tie into what you call cyborg feminism?

So really, the big story here that I'm trying to tell is how feminism ended up happening at all, why it's not just about progress in some kind of abstract sense, like we used to be bad people and now we're good people.

That's not really a thing.

You know, some things get better, some things get worse, right?

Just depends on where you're standing and how you're looking at it.

But if you're not looking at, if you're not seeing feminism as evidence of stuff getting better, then why is it happening?

And so I kind of went down a rabbit hole trying to figure out, you know, if I don't believe in progress, and I don't,

why did this happen at all?

And I came to realize that feminism happened.

You know, it had to happen.

And it was women's response to how family life changed with the Industrial Revolution.

And

it was right and proper that women did respond.

Because, well,

one of the most important ways that the Industrial Revolution changed things for women was

that work left the home.

And when that happened, a whole, like previously in the medieval era, men and women both worked.

I mean, this would have been true in pioneer households in the United States as well.

It wasn't that women were just sat around filing their nails while the guys did everything.

The women were pretty tough.

It was hard physical work, and they might have done different work to men.

But they would have been processing raw materials.

They'd have been slaughtering poultry and making cheese or making fabric or making clothes for the family.

Women worked as hard as men.

I think in some ways harder I worked.

I remember my grandmother what it took just to do the wash.

And that was with one of the first washing machines.

It was still tough.

Right, exactly.

Exactly.

It's a lot of incredibly hard work.

So

men and women all worked, except in the very richest households.

But when

industrialization happened, a whole lot of the first work, a lot of the work to be the first to be industrialised was the work that had previously been women's work.

So textile making stopped being something that you did while you were talking to your sisters and your cousins with kids underfoot inside the home.

And it became something that happened in a big dangerous factory 12 miles away.

And so you might still be working in textile making, but you can't do that and look after your kids.

And then you have the question of what you're going to do with the kids.

So there's a whole load of questions, there's a whole load of problems really that this throws up for women that they've got to deal with.

if you're breastfeeding, can you still work?

And this just wasn't, this wasn't really a question before when work was something that happened inside the home.

And women responded to this in two, I mean,

it varies a lot depending on where you are.

And in Europe, it's different to the United States, and it happens at different times, industrialization.

But broadly speaking, women responded in two characteristic ways.

Where it was affordable

for them not to work,

they chose to do so and to look after the kids instead instead because they women recognized that kids still need looking after.

And among those, mostly middle-class women, there was a huge amount of writing and

organizing that went into making sure people understood that

this still mattered, that

it wasn't directly economically productive, but this was still important.

And this is more recently, feminist historiographers have called this,

they tend to treat this as kind of

patriarchal force consciousness, if you like.

Hold on, hold on just a second, Mary.

Hold on.

We got to take a quick break.

Back in just a second with the reactionary feminist.

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who believes the feminism of freedom and the feminism of care are the twin poles of the women's movement from the mid to late 18th century onward.

She says,

Feminism of freedom and the feminism of care started really kind of going to war with each other because women were rightly quite conflicted.

We need more freedom of movement.

This new world seems premised on the idea that everyone is a free individual and we can be our own self in the market.

That's what freedom is.

Why can't we have that?

Then, of course, you had the other side because we're women and we're mothers.

We have children.

You have a baby, you have a six-year-old.

We know what it's like to be needed.

So women argued from that experience of motherhood, it's not so simple.

We need to have this recognized and taken into account.

She says the feminist of freedom won out over the feminism of care when contraception and abortion were legalized.

This is where we get the

cyborg or

transhumanism.

Mary joins us again.

Mary, can you take us through that part of this?

Sure.

I mean, my argument is essentially that feminism as such ended in the 1960s.

And that we should think of the sexual revolution not as the sexual revolution, but the transhumanist revolution.

We are 50 years and more and counting into the transhumanist revolution.

And that what much is under the banner of feminism now is more, we should think of it more as a kind of libertarianism of the body, which is to say

a belief that we should be free to do whatever we want with our bodies and we should be constrained in no way by any any aspect of our bodies, including our sex, including whether we're born male or female.

That should not limit us in any way at all.

Yeah, I was just talking to a really brilliant guy yesterday, Spencer Clavin, and he said

trans

people

is really the

beginning of the end

because it's going, that's all transhumanism.

You control with technology.

You control what you are.

Absolutely.

And that began with the contraceptive pill.

Because if you think about it, the pill was the first medical technology that didn't set out to fix something that was broken.

Like if I've broken my wrist, then oh, I need I go see a doctor, the doctor gives me pain meds and splints my arm and I'm better again.

So that assumes like and but but what the pill does is the opposite of that, or at least it's it's very different to that.

The pill breaks something which is working just fine, which is normal female fertility,

and it does so in the name of personal freedom.

It does so in order to grant women the freedom to have sex without without dealing with unexpected pregnancies or undesired pregnancies, I should say.

So you know a pregnancy under those circumstances if you have sex you should expect normally to get pregnant.

And the pill but the pill breaks that and it does so in the name of freedom and there have been lots of benefits to that.

You know it's it allowed it allowed a huge number of women to plan their lives in a way which hadn't been easily possible before.

So lots of women went to college and got jobs and

I mean I participated in public life in a way which was much more difficult previously, but it also came with

some unexpected costs.

My great great friend Louise Perry

has written a great deal about the downsides of the sexual revolution for women.

But one of the unexpected effects of the pill was that

it didn't prevent unexpected pregnancies nearly as much as people thought it would.

Because

although fewer pregnancies were happening relative to the number of people who were having sex, there were so many more people having casual sex because they could.

essentially, that the absolute number of unplanned pregnancies went up.

And that created a pressure to legalize abortion.

And I mean, we've been talking about the feminism of freedom and the feminism of care.

And, you know, one,

a bunch of women who wanted to say women's interests are about our relationships and our bodies and our children and our families.

And another bunch of freedom who are saying women's interests are about defending our right to do whatever we want to do, just on the same terms as men.

So that's very crudely the two sides of that argument.

And it's very difficult, you know, wherever you stand on abortion, it's very hard to think of a clearer way of saying freedom matters more than care than to say my freedom is so important that I will defend it even at the cost of a potential human life.

That's totally reliant on my body.

Let me go to the trans

argument that

is happening all over the world right now.

And I think we are

ahead of you or behind you, I guess, because I think you guys are actually starting to come out of this already.

And, you know, turfs are just a horrible thing.

However, it seems as though, and I think this really is in large part due to you, that the TERFs are winning in Great Britain.

Is that true?

And what did you do to change the tide over there that America can do?

Well,

I mean, it depends.

We've definitely, we've had some successes.

That's definitely true.

I'm a long way from declaring it a victory.

I think I'd be a little bit like George Bush when he was standing there on that ship

saying, we won, we won, guys, we can all go home.

I think

it's too early to say that we've won, and we really are just into the foothills of something here.

But if there's something that the Turfs did, I mean,

the British situation is very different to the American one anyway, because culturally, we're just kind of, I think we're just more pessimistic in Britain about

being who you want to be.

You know,

that's pretty baked into the American way of looking at things, that people should be able to be who they want to be.

Correct.

And so I can see, like, that that plugs fairly obviously into what's going on with the trans thing.

Like, why shouldn't these people be who they want to be, even if that means imagining their bodies are meat Legos and they can rearrange them as they want.

And I think Brits are just a little bit more pessimistic about that.

We're also better organized because we had MumsNet, which is a discussion forum for months.

And a lot of the very early organizing to push back against gender ideology began on Mumsnet and has since spun out into campaigning institutions.

And I think

if there have been concrete successes in Britain, it's been in realizing that actually where the battle is fought is not it's not in the media culture war.

That stuff is noisy, but it doesn't really do very doesn't move the needle.

And actually what you need to do is build institutions and you need to lean on the levers of power, which are which are NGOs these days.

Most real power flows through NGOs and happens prior to voting in the world as it is now.

And I think in as much, I mean I don't track American politics super closely, but

where things cross my radar that look as though they're moving the needle in a similar way, it's for example the Mums for Liberty movement on school choice,

which to me has some of the same character, I mean with American characteristics and much more American style,

slightly different priorities.

But I see that as being, you know, know they're that they're getting they're getting their members on school boards and they're and they're leaning on the actual levers of power they aren't just they aren't just writing angry think pieces and then looking surprised when nothing changes they're they're showing up and they're and they're doing politics and as a result they're you know they it's it's not

you know they're moving the needle and that's that and I guess that's that's how it has to work you know if you're going to if you want to affect changing you have to show up

are you

you have to show up where it matters we we are seeing things, you know, gender mutilation on children and everything else, and we are behind you on, you are having more success of stopping that over in Great Britain than we are.

But people are waking up.

But it is, it's absolute evil

what is happening right now.

Are you

optimistic or pessimistic here on how this all works out?

Are we in for a very long battle or we lose?

It's going to be a bumpy ride, I think.

It's going to be a bumpy ride.

Honestly, I think it's going to be a bit of both, to be honest.

I think the Turks will win on pediatric gender.

I think a friend of mine calls it

genital lobotomies.

I think that will stop because the negative side effects are so obvious, and sooner or later, there's just going to be such a cascade of losses that it's going to, and so many, you know, the number of the number of brutalized adults who just who are brutalized, angry young adults will just get so big that it will stop.

But I think that

if you view the gender movement as a kind of spearhead for a wider transhumanist,

the onward march of biotech into our bodies,

I think

if we imagine that

if we claim victory just because they stopped doing gender lobotomies on children, then we're not paying attention because

the stuff which is coming down the line is in vitro gametogenesis and

three-parent embryos.

And there are experimental surgeries which splice people with bits of animal and genetically engineering pigs so that they can grow human organs for the transplant industry and a whole bunch of other stuff.

It just gets more and more Baroque and more and more disturbing.

And that's, yeah.

And it's very easy to argue the conservative case against creating monsters, but it's very much harder to argue the conservative case against creating supermen.

And I think that's an argument which we haven't even begun to have yet.

And people are already trying to do it.

Mary, thank you so much for everything.

Say hi to Sebastian if you ever see him.

It's been such a pleasure talking to you.

Thank you for having me.

Thank you.

Mary Harrington, the book that she wrote is Feminism Against Progress.

And she is the contributing editor

for Unheard.

And you can follow her at reactionaryfeminist.com.

She is absolutely right.

The last things that she was talking about, and this this is something

I've been saying for a long time, more probably off the air than on the air.

There are conversations that we have to have right now.

We are going to be facing some of the biggest questions man has ever, you know, we've always said, you know, well, what is life?

Well, that's been more kind of academic,

but it's not going to be academic very soon When you can

transform people and make them into a cyborg,

is that a good thing?

A bad thing?

What should we be doing?

What does it mean to be organic?

These things people don't have any idea.

That is why, when she said the pill is the beginning of transhumanism, she's right.

She's right.

There are things that

we must be talking about right now because we're fighting

almost a campfire with this

trans stuff.

This is almost a campfire compared to what is coming in probably the next three to five years.

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Really?

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Hello, you sick freak.

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It is Friday.

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So I'm going to get to very little of it, but I put it all out in

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There's a lot of stuff that you do need to pay attention to.

We'll hit some of that stuff.

And

my wife wasn't really happy with me yesterday

when she came in the door with a target bag.

And

I'm hoping I'm not the only

person

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So I don't know

if you're experiencing this crisis, but it is becoming a crisis in our society.

And it has a lot to do with, you know, affordable sheets with high thread count

or

better yet, one place where you can get absolutely everything.

We're watching, I think men across the country are watching in horror as our wives, moms, sisters are reeling in.

in agony in agony and i think beginning to go through some withdrawals uh i'm just

June 2nd.

June 2nd.

I know, I know people have been saying you got to do it all June.

And

we've been doing it since before that.

So we're a little ahead.

And I think some others are.

But I came home,

was it yesterday or the day before?

And I was home in a pretty, you know, good mood.

My wife comes home because my son is graduating tomorrow.

And then Saturday, we leave for vacation.

And

we haven't really done it.

I should say, I haven't really done anything about it because I'm trying to juggle everything here.

And so she came in the door yesterday and she had a target bag.

And I went, Tanya.

And she just pointed across the room and kept moving.

And she just pointed at me.

I don't.

want

to hear it.

And I'm like, yes, ma'am.

And she's like, I have a thousand things going on and I do not have time to run to six different stores and it's not June yet.

And I'm like, I think that is,

I applaud you.

I applaud you, sweetheart.

Good for you.

Take a stand.

Or don't.

Or don't or don't.

No, take a stand that you got too many things to do or not.

Whatever you want, I'm with you.

So

now I'm not saying that I've kept a diary,

but I'm not saying that either.

Let's just say

Bob's been keeping track.

And

on day one, he wrote, Over the course of this week, I kept notes in my diary.

It was not easy.

Several times, my cover was nearly blown.

My wife began the day optimistic, determined.

She kept saying, I can do it.

I can do it.

For the sake of what is right, I can do it.

And for a moment there, I thought this boycott was going to be kind of easy.

I thought she'd, you know, bounce into action and never look back.

About noon

on day one, she started to crack just a little bit.

She looked at me and said, The only jeans that fit me properly are from Target.

Where am I going to get my jeans?

What will I do without my favorite jeans?

And, you know, I was,

I think you look wonderful.

And nothing

were this according to Bob, of course, and he sensed a change in day one.

One weird thing, she has been speaking differently.

It's almost like a nervous tick.

Random words come out at random times.

Day one, kissed her goodnight, said, I love you.

She said,

I love Lint Lindor milk chocolate candy truffles.

And I think that has something to do with Target, but I'm not really sure.

Day two, she began laughing today a lot and then abruptly stopping into

a grimace that

reminded me of

gargoyles a bit.

You know,

this is going to be a good thing.

I really think it's going to be a good thing.

It's going to be a good thing.

You know, followed by a long-winded rant about how Satan tempted Jesus and this is my temptation in the desert.

Later, I found her reading her scriptures, Matthew 4, while repeating 40 days of this.

She tried to go to Walmart, made it about 10 feet into the store.

She sped home and took a shower for 45 minutes.

Day three, have you seen the shining?

The way Jack Nicholson slowly becomes unhinged.

It's beginning to feel like that on day three at the house.

Several times I caught her petting picture frames.

When I asked if everything was okay, she said,

I can find gallery frames for an excellent price anywhere.

You know,

think of the frames.

Later, I caught her

piling bath bombs onto her side of the bed.

I said,

honey, what are those

for?

And her answer was a little terrifying uh i i can't really remember i i only something about the onslaught of a war of sparkles and t-rose

so i'm i don't know what that means and i didn't ask day four the shakes have begun confusion has overtaken her eyes every couple of minutes she gasps then looks around face full of panic and says

where will i find oversized blouses

uh

and

gasped again.

What if somebody has a birthday?

Where am I going to go?

Where am I going to go?

What if there's a birthday?

Day five, midway through lunch, she shrieked, realizing

she was only seven remaining decorative pillows away from an empty bedtop.

Our day somehow got worse when news broke that Chip and Joanna Gaines had just released their new candle trough.

That was

day five, didn't it?

Day six, the rations have vanished.

The boycott now has begun to affect the family's food supply just a little bit.

This morning, you know,

do we have any milk?

And my

wife whispered, don't you know where the milk comes from?

Don't you know where I get the milk?

And I

said, I don't need any milk.

Milk?

What milk?

She was almost out of Meyer's soap,

nearly caved when the revelation kicked in that she might have to go to Walmart.

And then they only carry soft soap and dub from what I now know to be true.

To make matters worse, Target had just released their new Meyer's Fall scents, including, but not limited to, pumpkin spice, which, if you don't have pumpkin spice, Meyer's soap.

Who are you, really?

Then things really spiraled when she needed to pick up Starbucks Honey flat white

and some new laundry detergent

for the first time in a long time.

This was going to require two stops, and those two stops did not make her happy.

At bedtime, she locked herself into the guest bedroom and insisted on being left alone.

I could hear her reorganizing the decorative prints as she recited, make good things happen.

Make good things happen.

Sunshine is a state of mind.

Day seven,

for the first day, I have a little hope.

Long story short,

the whole thing was awful, terrible, miserable, heartbreaking,

but still not bad enough to make me or any of my friends want to chug down a Bud Light.

So there is that upside.

It's a tarrowing tale.

Well,

are you okay?

I mean, is your friend okay?

Bob's okay.

Okay.

Bob's okay.

I

feel bad for bob if bob had a radio show and

and then he read that about his wife i'm glad this is not about tanya

especially if she's listening because she's an angel

and

she is

rock solid right now right now i can tell you for sure she is in in our bedroom and she's got the suitcases open,

and she

may have, may have

done what she normally does, which is like also pack up some of my stuff.

Right now,

she's probably saying,

oh, really?

Really?

You'll pack when you get home.

Let's see how that works out for you.

But she's not doing that.

Right.

Because she's not listening.

Oh, to God.

I have one question

from this

unexplained diary that you have from your friend.

Found it at auction.

Have they actually really released pumpkin spice crap already?

Is that real?

Jeez.

Oh,

right.

It's too early.

Everything is pumpkin spice.

And I'm a little sick.

It was cool when it first came out, you know, and now I like it.

I like it for about a week.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Not in June.

No, no, no.

No, it's not too early.

Too early.

You know, you're making pumpkin pie.

You go to wash your hands and it smells like pumpkin pie.

I mean, why wash?

Save the money, save the trip to Target.

Why wash?

Nothing quite as satisfying as knowing that everyone in the house is asleep.

except you, staring up at the ceiling, listening to the clocks on the wall just tick.

Yeah, I love that feeling, especially the next day, Tanya actually

been a little stressed out, a little stressed out.

We both have, but,

you know, I might add to stress a little bit, a little bit.

And

so she couldn't sleep the other night.

And

she said, I haven't slept well in three days, which immediately made me feel guilty, you know, because I had been sleeping fine for three days.

And she said, I'm taking relief factor sleep.

And I was like, cool.

I mean, she could have said, I'm taking heroin.

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Would you like me to go get a, I don't even know, a dime bag?

Is that what that is?

I don't know, but I'll ask for one.

She took relief factor sleep.

She got up the next morning and she was in a great mood and had a great night's sleep.

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dead.

Probably not the way to start a vacation.

Probably not.

Again, you better hope she's packing.

Well, no, packing for the trip.

Oh, yeah.

No, no.

You better hope she's not packing.

Yeah, because that would be bad.

Yeah.

That would be bad.

How dead would you be without your wife?

Oh, I mean, you can't function.

Everything just falls apart in the household for even if she's away for several hours.

She is like, she is, and I'm not just saying this because I'm, I'm, no, yes, you are.

Okay, a little bit.

But

she's like a CEO.

She, I got to tell you, she leaves and all of us just stand around going,

uh,

anybody know where a fire extinguisher is?

I mean, nothing happens.

Nothing happens.

Come home and she has got like this list in her head.

Got to do this, got to do this, got to do do this, got to do this.

What, I mean, what are you guys doing?

I'm like, I don't have that list.

I didn't get that list.

How do you have that list in your head?

What's it like to live in that head with that list?

Yeah, that's why it's a challenge.

I mean, it is a challenge for people.

Obviously, you're exaggerating, but there's a challenge for a lot of people to

avoid target because it is easy, right?

And you get to a place where you know where everything is in there.

I think that's the same thing, though, with phones.

You know, we have our cell phones, and you could have a cell phone, get a flip phone, You just don't have all social media on it.

Uh-uh.

Uh-uh.

Because it makes life really easy.

I will tell you that

I'm starting to carry my phone.

I noticed you had it the other day, which I have not seen you carry a phone in many, many years.

Yep.

Why is why is that?

Well,

I got a call from somebody that everybody in the audience would know.

And this individual is not one that I would normally get a call from.

Right.

And

I got messages from people, I think from high school that I haven't spoken to since high school, saying,

Glenn,

somebody's trying to get a hold of you.

What are you doing?

Where are you?

Where are you?

You know, and I was just not anywhere near my phone.

And this individual doesn't know I don't have a phone.

And it was not good.

Not good.

And so then the next day,

I had written to somebody.

I said, you know, can I hire you to take some photographs of the museum stuff?

He said, sure.

And

he said, when do you want to do it?

And I said, this week would be great, Wednesday.

And he said, okay, I've got to move some other clients around, but yes, we'll do it Wednesday.

And then he came Wednesday, but I hadn't seen his response to me.

So I didn't know he was coming.

So then he got to the studios and

apparently he was sitting right there.

But he got into the studios and

he said, you know, I have an appointment with Glenn to do some stuff and I'm on the air.

And they said, no, you don't.

And my staff was not there this day.

And no, you don't.

And he said,

yeah, I do.

And they said, who made the appointment?

And he said, Glenn did.

And they said, Glenn doesn't make his own appointments.

That doesn't happen.

And

so he was here and they waited to come in and he waited.

He waited, apparently.

Apparently, he waited for about 12 hours.

Well, not 12 hours.

Eight hours.

Eight hours.

Oh, just the eight hours.

Just the eight hours.

Okay, that's the first one.

In different locations.

Yeah.

In different locations.

And

he apparently had also left messages on my phone, which I don't carry.

And he didn't know that.

And it was bad.

And I don't know what the staff was thinking because I wasn't even here after about four of those hours.

Oh, good.

And so I've decided, I think I'm going to carry phone.

I'm going to do it.

Really?

Now, I don't think that will improve things at all.

You know,

no, no, because I know you.

And what will happen is you will now schedule more of your own appointments that you will not tell anyone else about and you will still forget about them.

The more access you have to people, the worse things get.

That's just a general rule we've developed around here over many, many years.

I said, you know, I said, because I talked to everybody, I was like, how come you guys didn't come in?

And they're like, Glenn, you don't

do this.

We have people come by say this all the time.

Right.

Yeah.

And they're like, we didn't know.

So, you know, you didn't tell anybody and your guys weren't here.

And so, no.

And, and I was like, okay, that's,

and

you told him that I don't usually do this.

And he said, uh, yeah, I did.

And,

you know, after talking to pretty much everybody in the building, and they all said the same thing, he, his response was, well, I see why he doesn't make his own appointments.

Yeah, that's

something I would agree with.

Horrible.

I felt like a horrible human being.

It's hard to keep track of stuff, of course, but you are particularly like,

you get focused on something, you go all in on it and then in your head It's over and that doesn't mean it leaves your head though So no one else knows what's going on and well I just didn't see his follow-up email that was the problem you haven't seen an email in 20 years Okay, all right another thing that maybe we should talk about I mean I gave up emailing you legitimately a decade ago like legitimately a decade ago

to email you the other day and I looked at all of these and I said I think these are from like when we lived in Philadelphia I mean

I don't even know what he read that

I know one phone number, and that's my wife's.

Yeah.

One.

And I will say, when, if I have to contact you,

and I don't even try most of the time because I know I can't do it.

Right.

But if I have to do it, the only way I can even attempt it is to call Tanya.

Because Tanya actually is a human being that is in contact with other human beings.

And at least she's near you and might be able to get you a message.

Right.

Well, I got a lot of things to do.

Okay, yeah.

and they're all very important and they're all very important meetings to miss so maybe i shouldn't carry a phone

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You know,

there's a story out today.

It's in our free show prep at Glenbeck.com,

about

why this Bud Light thing is really working.

And that's because people are buying it

at the bars.

And

if you ask for a Bud Light in some of these bars, people are just harassing you.

They're like, oh,

and that's really how you do it.

You just don't do that with your wife at Target.

Well, if you want to stay married, you certainly don't do that.

Right.

If you don't want to stay married, do it a lot.

A lot.

Yeah, the quote from Marina Cafe in Great Kills on Staten Island, and they said, not only did the sales of Bud Light tank two months ago, but the rare partakers of the product these days find themselves reamed by fellow patrons.

Again, like, you want to go in there and enjoy a beer.

Even if you like Bud Light, you just don't want to get in there.

It's just so much easier, though.

Like, my wife came home the other day, and I don't know, she needed to buy a blouse for my daughter and hamburger meat and a candle.

I don't know.

And she was like, I wasn't running to three stores today.

I don't have time.

Yeah.

And I'm like, I just think this is poor planning.

You knew you needed that candle a long time ago, sister.

No, we're going on vacation.

What do you need a candle for?

When you're gone, I'm romancing somebody.

Anyway, so the,

it's just hard because that just breaks your day up.

And you've got to, it's Bud Light is easy.

Pull that one or pull that one.

Yeah.

I don't want that one.

Pour a glass of that.

The easy substitute is such a key part of this.

Yeah, it is.

And I think, too, there's just that level of, you know,

you have to make it so you're not ruining your own life because of their bad decisions.

And that's tough to do.

Let me ask you, do you think this is why Hispanics are becoming white supremacists?

Are they?

Oh, yeah.

Well, the rise of Latino white supremacy, it's, I mean, it's right here in black and white.

What is this?

Vanity Fair?

Oh, wow.

Oh, the New Yorker.

Even better.

They're smarter.

They have cartoons you don't, nobody understands.

Even the people who draw them don't understand them.

Right.

So they've got to be right.

And maybe it's because,

you know, they go for that high thread count sheet and they can't get them at Target anymore.

So they're like, where are we going to go?

And I don't know.

So the high thread count

for the clan's outfits.

Well, they might not

really agree with everything, but they want the sheets.

Okay.

So it's not an ideological affinity to the clan.

It's the discomfort of nice thread counts.

I don't know.

I just know that the New Yorker has a whole piece out

about how we are now

seeing the rise of Hispanic white supremacy.

I noticed that they call Hispanics

brown, which I

really hate that term.

I don't know why.

Brown peoples, and they'll call them brown peoples, as if black and brown, and then they'll call brown peoples people of color.

All these really weird colors in my face.

It's just pink, right?

Pink.

Right, everyone has it.

Everyone's got some color.

No one's actually white.

I don't know if anyone's noticed this.

Maybe a few exceptions.

But

I always find this to be interesting: is that when they want to claim Hispanics as their own, they're people of color.

But now they can also be white and white supremacists.

So they really stop being colorful.

Right.

They're no longer POCs at that point.

No, because they're not agreeing.

And there are some people that they have found that are, you know, have racist Nazi tattoos.

Now, I just don't understand that.

I mean, I think this might be a case of

you're either really stupid if you're just, I want to get a Nazi tattoo and you're any other color than pig pink.

Okay, because Nazis don't like color.

Fact, the ideal color is like

spooky ass white with blue eyes.

Okay, the kinds that you like to look at and like, I think they're half wolf.

That's the ideal, okay, I guess.

And

you're not, you're not that.

So they're going to figure that out at some point.

So I don't know how that works.

I mean, I guess you could be

a

a non-white white supremacist if what you're, if you're, are you just relating this to fascism generally?

So

here's what they're saying.

This article is crazy, but they say, um, uh, they say that, look, the Hispanics know that they have to be more white and act more white if they want to be successful.

And so they're just acting white and they're just saying, hey,

we want to be white so badly and be accepted by the white people that we'll join the Klan.

I got news for you, man.

You're wearing a sheet.

A lot of white people are not going to like you.

The overwhelming majority are going to think you're insane.

Yeah, right.

Just so you know.

Right.

And not because do you not look in the mirror or do you not listen at meetings

because

that's nuts.

Yeah.

But whether you're white or black or any other color, your acceptance and membership in the KKK automatically makes you insane.

Yeah, I agree.

But I tell you, they're pushing it.

They are pushing it.

These Hispanics are pushing white supremacy like, oh, crazy, Stu.

How do we know?

Not just because of Target.

Just the New Yorker article?

No.

Well, you know, I'm a big fan of

Maria

and Teresa.

The Patela Novella?

Yo, they're great.

I watch them all the time.

Do you?

Yeah, I do.

I do.

I don't don't think I do.

I love them.

But I was watching the other day, and I was watching Teresa, and

there was a scene with Teresa and Pablo, and all of a sudden they start talking about

white supremacy.

And I'm like, wait a minute, what?

And Teresa was not happy.

Sorry.

Teresa was not happy about it.

I didn't know you spoke Spanish.

Hmm?

I didn't even know you spoke Spanish.

How do you...

Well,

may I?

Because

I brought the clip in and I'll translate it for you.

Yeah.

Do you speak Spanish?

I don't.

Okay, good.

So let me just let me translate what happened on Teresa.

Okay.

Teresa just found Pablo wandering the streets.

Stop, stop, stop.

Not yet.

Teresa is.

I'm trying to set this up.

This is complex stuff here.

Sure.

Teresa just found Pablo wandering the streets of Mexico City.

Wow, you do do that very well.

I think you do.

Yeah, I do.

I do.

I do.

I do.

And she realizes something's wrong with Pablo.

Okay?

Now, go ahead.

What is wrong with you, Pablo?

You look like you've seen a ghost.

I know what it is.

I saw you last night walking around town with those angry-looking men wearing bed sheets and carrying crosses.

Will it crosses at midnight, Teresa?

Have you never heard of this

Klan?

See, I have,

but it doesn't really make any sense to me.

They're white supremacists.

Why would they

accept a Hispanic man like you?

They know you're not white, don't they?

You're not white.

They know I

love the white race, Teresa.

What?

Like Hitler.

Like Hitler, what do you mean?

Well, he was a brunette,

but he knew blondes were better.

So just like him, I may be Hispanic,

but I wish I was white.

Right?

Yes, it's true, I believe that, but why would you join those blanket-wearing men?

They're freaks.

Teresa,

we are not freaks.

The clan is so old-fashioned.

No,

you're better than that.

Any Hispanic white supremacist worth this salt would only join the Patriot Front.

Their uniforms are actually stylish

and they're definitely not fed.

I guess I was wrong about you, Pablo.

You will never be white.

Never be white.

Wow, that was dramatic.

Yeah, it was crazy.

And it just spilled out my living room the other day.

Wow.

Yeah.

See, I didn't know.

And

I say, no, I don't.

speak Spanish, but I'm like, wouldn't the name Hitler just translate as Hitler?

I didn't hear Hitler.

No, not in Spanish.

Spanish is very strange.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

You know, it's like C.

And yes,

totally different.

No, well, I know.

Okay.

I know that's how language works in translation, but like names usually stay the same.

Not in Mexico.

Okay.

A lot of them change their names.

A lot of them do.

Well, I mean, that did explain the phenomenon of white supremacist Hispanics pretty much.

And they're pushing it hard.

They're pushing it hard.

They really are.

You know, that damn telemundo.

Damn them.

Well, there it is.

You've got the truth finally.

You need to do a new podcast on just...

I'm going to do a little bit of a picture.

I think they did those succession recaps.

The what?

You know, like succession, the show at just ended.

They do like a daily or weekly podcast on reviewing what happened.

You could do that for these telenovelas.

In Spanish.

We could do that.

Yeah.

We could do that.

Would you like me to?

Sure.

Yeah, we'll just tape a few episodes and then I'll come and translate them.

Will you be able to keep up with it on your vacation?

Will you still watch them?

You don't want to miss any developments.

Oh,

I can watch those things, you know, all the time.

Okay.

All the time.

Good.

Especially Maria.

Maria.

Maria.

Marie.

Maria.

Okay.

I guess, you know, Congress has, you know, decided to make all the economic decisions with the Magic Eight Ball.

You know, it's not just any Magic Eight Ball.

This one, no matter how many times you shake it, it just comes up with the same answer.

Spend more.

You will spend more.

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Thank you so much for listening.

How many people get into the presidential race?

What's the number?

Right now, I think we have eight, nine, something like that.

What's the final number, you think?

There are only 350 million Americans.

Right, so I don't think it could be over that.

Okay, don't say that.

Some of them are children.

Yeah.

So they're not qualified.

Okay.

But that doesn't.

There's a lot of people.

You think this president was qualified?

Oh, no, not at all.

Okay.

So many are non-citizens.

In theory, that would not qualify them, though.

That should be.

They could run for the Democratic.

Sure.

Yeah.

I think we had, what, 16 or 17 relatively real candidates in 2016.

I think the Democrats got up to like 20.

Well, the Democrats aren't going to have it.

They're going to have some people running, but they're not going to

notice them.

Yeah, this time, even people with like 25% of the vote don't even get a debate.

I mean, that is crazy.

That is crazy.

I mean, that is so authoritarian.

I don't know how you can be a Democrat and not see how authoritarian this is.

Because I think the GOP is authoritarian enough.

But

when Reagan was elected, the Democrats freaked out.

And they're like, we can't let that happen in our party.

We will not have that Bernie Sunders.

And they just, I mean, for him to be running and them not, with his poll numbers.

You're talking about

Barbara versus RFK Jr., even Marianne Williams.

I mean, with his poll numbers and his lack of ability to think,

for them to say, no, we're not having any debates is just the kind of stuff that Putin would do.

Yeah.

And, you know,

I feel like usually in a situation like this, you'd have some, you know, strong challenger.

Like if you're like, I don't know, if you're like a Gavin Newsom and you really think you want to be president, and believe me, he does.

I go, what are you holding back for?

This guy's incredibly vulnerable.

I mean, a real challenger could make a difference probably in that primary situation.

Do you want to be that?

First of all, do you want to be that?

I mean, you know, it would take somebody who just

either wants to play the game and be a part of the Cool Kids Club, and they're already in it.

They're already there,

or somebody who wants to change things.

Do you think you want to go run as a traditional Democrat, one that actually believes in the Bill of Rights?

No way.

They will eat you alive.

Look at how they just destroy people.

No, thank you.

I mean, you know,

going in against Trump, that's bad enough.

That's bad enough because you know how he fights.

He fights to win.

And, you know, I don't know how you don't walk out dizzy after a debate with him,

but that's bad enough when you got one guy.

You don't have the media, the entire Democratic Party,

the entire institution coming out against you.

Yeah.

I mean, you can really compare the

2016 primary to this one in a way, because, you know, Hillary was coming off of being Secretary of State.

She was the obvious nominee.

And you had people challenging her like Bernie Sanders, like Martin O'Malley, and a few others.

There were at least people who jumped into the race that, uh, who made a big impact, and Hillary had to deal with them, right?

Hillary had to debate them.

We all remember seeing those debates.

Joe Biden, they're like, well, we can't put him on stage.

You might just fall on his face.

I mean, I don't mean fall on his face in the debate.

I mean, literally fall on his face in the middle.

Bad.

In the middle of the debate.

Just really bad.

And they're just protecting him.

They're trying to keep him out of public view and to see if it worked.

They're like, well, it worked in 2020.

The whole COVID thing gave us kind of a path here to just keep him in the basement and see what happens.

And man, I can't believe they're trying it again.

I would be very frustrated if I were a Democrat at that development.

You know, RFK Jr., look, I don't think he's, he's not a serious candidate, right?

He's really not.

I mean, he's not a guy who's, who's been other than his last name.

No, this is how we are so desperate.

This is, this is the

Democratic Donald Trump.

This is a guy that the Democrats are like, I don't agree with this guy on a lot of stuff, but at least he's talking some sense on a few big things.

Get him in.

Jeez.

I mean, that shit.

30% of the election on the Democrats side say, give us somebody else.

I know.

Even if it's Mary Ann Williamson.

I I know.

Hey.

Amazing.

We'll see you in a couple of weeks.

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