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And I'm like, you tell him we're not on Mormon Standard Time, which is usually five minutes late because you've got 18 kids that you're trying to get into the back of the van.

But he's on time.

Mike Lee, welcome.

How are you, sir?

Doing great.

And whether or not I was going to be on time was never in doubt.

Never in doubt.

Never in doubt.

Hey, I've got three things I want to talk to you about.

First of all, well, actually four, but I want to, we've got about 10 minutes, so I want to see if we can get all of it in.

Impossible task.

First of all, your thoughts on the border.

Look,

the border

is in an unbelievably intense state of crisis.

I've spent two years of my life on the U.S.-Mexico border.

I know that people who suffer most from these border crises are recent immigrants themselves, the poorest of the poor.

Well, look, the exploration of Title 42 doesn't have to prove disastrous,

but it will prove disastrous unless Secretary Mayorkas...

He says he's done everything he can.

That is absolute malary.

Absolutely.

So when is anybody going to go after him and impeach him?

We've talked about this.

Is there a chance of that?

Well, yeah, look, I've been calling for his impeachment

for many weeks now because he's refused to enforce the border.

And he still could enforce the border.

If fewer start

detaining asylum seekers crossing our southern border until their claims are adjudicated, which the law already requires, Glenn, Title VIII of the U.S.

Code already requires this.

And then immediately repatriating those who can't be detained based on a lack of detention facility bed capacity, that would fix it.

It would fix it almost immediately.

We have 400,000 people coming across our border this month.

This month.

We have millions that have come in now since Biden got in, enough to build, you know, like the fifth or sixth largest city in America.

And we're expecting this not to change our culture.

We, our kids don't know American history.

Now you're bringing people in who don't know American history.

How do we expect to remain America unless people in Congress begin to act and hold these people accountable.

It'll be very, very difficult for us to do that, which is why it's absolutely essential that we take those steps right now.

And look, the White House and the Department of Homeland Security have known for a really long time that this day was fast approaching, and they've refused to fix the problem, even though they have the tools to do it under existing law.

But in the meantime, you've got these international drug cartels don't want the Department of Homeland Security to enforce the law and protect the border.

Why?

Well, because they're making billions of dollars,

making billions of dollars specifically off of the Biden administration's refusal to enforce the law.

Okay.

Mike, let me switch real quick.

I just want to ask: does the president have the right to just change the debt limit on his own?

On no planet does the president of the United States have the authority to justify.

And if he tries to do that, what are the consequences?

Well, if he tries to do that,

that is an impeachable offense.

If he just openly flouts the law, just disregards it and says, I don't have to, and does so based on this extremely flawed theory that the 14th Amendment somehow renders it unnecessary.

Look, he didn't take that position in 1984 when he said, I'm not going to vote to raise the the debt ceiling under President Ronald Reagan because there's nothing in there that

adequately controls the debt.

He didn't raise it then.

He didn't raise it in 2011

when he, as Vice President of the United States, was negotiating a debt ceiling package.

This theory is science fiction fantasy.

His own people know it.

Whether he knows it or not, I don't know.

So he can't do this.

We have several

problems going on right now, all at once.

And one of them is that the government just makes up things.

They just make up new laws.

We have people, ATF is coming to people's doors and saying,

we know that you purchased this.

How they know, I don't know.

We know you purchased this.

You need to turn it over now.

You won't be in any trouble if you just turn it over right now.

The ATF is just changing the laws.

There was,

we had you on recently about the rule of lenity, but we never got to it.

Is there anything to stop these

agencies from just making laws that they have no right to do?

There is.

And let me tell you about it.

It's a beautiful coincidence.

This ties directly into what we're doing.

on the debt ceiling.

The House passed bill that deals with the debt ceiling contains, among other provisions, something called the RAINS Act.

Yes.

It contains the provision saying that anytime an executive branch agency makes up a law, it can't just kick in automatically.

Congress has to affirmatively enact it into law, which is why of all the great provisions in there, in that bill that was passed by the House, which saves about a trillion dollars in year one alone, $5 trillion over the next 10 years.

The RAINS Act may well be the single most important because it'll safeguard not only our financial future by allowing economic growth to occur, but it will also safeguard our liberty.

By prohibiting stupid laws like those you've referred to just a moment ago, not passed through the constitutional process but by unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats.

It'll put Congress in charge of that.

Now, Congress won't always make the right decision, but when it makes the wrong decision, the American people will kick us out.

Correct.

And this,

you feel like this has a chance of passing?

Absolutely, it has a chance of passing.

Because, look, here's the deal.

I led the Senate Republican conference in putting together this letter to Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, stating our collective commitment to oppose raising the debt ceiling without substantive spending and budget reform.

And so in the Senate, you can kill any bill if you've got 41 senators, any group of 41 senators opposing it.

We've got 43 who signed my letter.

We've got two more who have agreed to support basically the same thing.

We've got a total of 45.

We only needed 41 to stop a clean debt ceiling increase.

If we will stand behind what the House passed and insist that at a minimum the Reigns Act be in there,

it'll be in there.

I mean, I will tell you, Mike,

even if you fudge on the

debt ceiling and you don't get all the cuts you wanted, having the Reigns Act

may be

worth

all

other sacrifices.

I believe one could make that argument.

And, Glenn,

if a genie appeared to me and said you can pass any bill just magically

that has been introduced in Congress and is now pending, it probably would be the Reigns Act for the very reason you described.

Let me explain it again for people who have not heard of the Reigns Act.

The problem we have right now is we are ruled by experts and all kinds of bills have passed and said, you know, this is,

you know,

this is the health care bill, but what it really means will be decided by the secretary.

And so the agency makes all of the laws.

The ATF can just say, you know what?

We're saying that this gun is now illegal because we have the power.

Well, they don't have the power.

The Reigns Act takes all of that power and makes it very, very clear.

clear.

It belongs to Congress and it guts these federal agencies of their powers to make new laws and rules, which is gigantic, gigantic.

Enormous.

And, you know,

in an odd twist of irony, Franklin D.

Roosevelt, when he was governor of Franklin D.

Roosevelt in the early 1930s, governor of the state of New York, once gave a speech in which he said, I've concluded that if tyranny ever comes to America,

it will come in a form of soft tyranny in which we're led around by experts, masterminds, who will purport to know what's best for us at every moment.

And it will also come about only when all power is concentrated in the federal government.

It's kind of

eerily descriptive of some of the things we're dealing with today.

We've got to take power back because the Constitution requires it.

And really interesting that he would do that that when he started a lot of these agencies and gave them so much power.

He's the one who set this whole thing in motion.

Yeah.

Well,

let's give Papa Wilson a nice tip of the hat, too.

Look, there's no question.

Woodrow Wilson was the worst president in American

president ever openly contemptuous toward the Constitution.

But with Wilson, we had a Supreme Court who pushed back on him hard enough that he didn't get very far.

Correct.

FDR came along and kind of finished the job.

Yeah.

And that's why we are where we are today.

One more thing, because I can't get you on the air for a second time where I wanted to talk about the rule of lenity and not at least get a 30-second answer on the rule of lenity.

What is that?

Okay, the rule of lenity says that when there is an ambiguity in a criminal statute,

that the courts will interpret that statute in a way that is more generous toward the would-be defendant, either the defendant or if it's a civil case, trying to ascertain the meaning in advance toward the would-be criminal defendant.

And so,

so let me ask you.

So, if I have, let's say I had a

one of those braces, pistol brace for your arms, okay, that the ATF said for 10 years they're totally legal.

Now they change it, and now they're making people

felons if you don't turn them in or whatever.

Well, wouldn't the rule of lenity say, well, no, wait a minute, you're confused because

you just said that it was fine and you said it for a long time.

Now you're changing your mind.

So you don't really have the right to declare that this is a felony because you're confused yourself on what's legal and not, correct?

Yes, yes, that is exactly right.

And that is essentially what the U.S.

Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit held in a recent case called Hardin versus ATF.

So, wait, wait, wait.

Why doesn't that work with income tax?

Because everyone says we don't really know what the law is.

Some people say this, some people say that.

Well, why doesn't the rule of lenity

protect you then?

There are instances in which the rule of lenity could be invoked

with respect to the internal revenue code, but you're never going to get one that applies to the entire code.

You might get such a ruling with regard to a specific provision of that.

But

it's not always invoked, and when it is invoked, it doesn't always prevail.

I'm glad that it did prevail in

this hardened VATF case in the 6th year.

Okay.

Mike, thank you so much.

Keep up the hard work.

Talk to you again soon.

You bet.

Bye-bye.

The thing you need to take away from this interview is you watch for the Reigns Act.

When they're negotiating, you've got to call your senator and your congressman and strengthen their spine and say to Congress, thank you for supporting this.

Thank you for putting that in the bill.

Do not allow that to be cut.

We can disagree on this, but I really truly believe that's more important than

another raise of the debt ceiling.

Go ahead, raise the debt ceiling.

That's a horrible idea.

It is awful.

However, if you get the Reigns Act, you can begin to cut all of these things through Congress.

They'll have some control over these agencies.

And that's what's causing tyranny of these agencies.

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Wade Miller is with us.

Hello, Wade.

How are you, sir?

I'm good.

Thanks for having me on.

So

the response by Governor Abbott, I think, is a little lackluster.

I think we should declare an emergency, which I think he has, but I mean a

true crisis or invasion, and he should seize the powers that I believe he has in the Constitution and get this under control.

Yeah, I agree.

So he has an inherent authority under Article 1, Section 10, Clause 3,

especially when the federal government is failing to uphold Article 4, Section 4, which Maorcus and Biden are clearly doing.

And that grants governors unique authorities that are constitutional authorities.

They're not subject to federal immigration law or cases like Arizona v.

U.S.

that are broad powers, it would allow the governor to take some unprecedented actions.

And so what he's been doing under Operation Lone Star

is he has been detaining and then taking migrants to ports of entry where he turns them over to federal agents.

And then of course they're processed and then released into the interior, or he's been bussing them around the United States.

What he has not been doing is taking them back into Mexico.

And so we have been asking him for two years to, one, declare an invasion and then provide authorities to agents to actually do something with that declaration.

He has stopped shy of the second one.

I'm getting some anecdotal evidence as of this morning from Border Patrol agents that there might be a positive development on that.

I'm happy to talk through that.

But historically, Operation Lone Star has been a lot of bluster and a lot of rhetoric.

but it has not done anything to fundamentally change the situation on the border.

I mean, and a lot large parts of Operation Lone Star have amounted to just piling money up and then setting it on fire.

Okay, so tell me what you're hearing from the border today on this.

So I was on a phone call this morning with a border patrol agent, that's a federal agent, and that agent indicated to me

that they were actually not allowed into certain parts of the border, that they remained in a staging area.

and that the Texas National Guard and Texas DPS were actually locking down that section.

Now, this is anecdotal.

We don't have an official position from Abbott on that stating that this is a change in policy.

So until then, as is the case usually with Abbott, I'm going to be very cautious.

I don't want to give him any credit for something.

He often says very good things and then doesn't follow through.

But if this occurs in other sectors, that's a huge development.

Now, Abbott does not have the agents that he needs right now to actually do this across the entire border, which which is actually why, you know, Speaker Dade Phelan, the Texas Republican Speaker of the House, there, he killed HB 20, which would have sought to start to alleviate that problem by creating a border protection unit.

Not surprised there that Dade killed that bill because he's a big open borders liberal Republican.

But

if this is the case and Abbott is actually changing policy, this would be a huge step.

It then becomes incumbent upon other Republican governors to send resources and personnel that Abbott can deputize under state of Texas authority and then deploy to other sectors and then duplicate this policy change.

So I'm still looking into this, but the fact that a federal border patrol agent told me this directly on a phone call just this morning, and I've talked to many other border officials and they're hearing the same thing.

That's a good first step.

These will be very small parts of the border, but if true, we should thank Abbott and we should encourage him to ask other governors for help.

But again, I want to be cautious here and not go too far too soon.

Well, I know that

the Attorney General, I've talked to him, and he has said to me that

he wishes

the governor would give him something that he had to defend.

In other words, take this action, let

the Fed say you can't do that so he can go and then fight it and win because he believes he can win.

Is it possible that he's giving him that

opportunity today?

I think so.

So there's two tracks that this could go down.

If they're doing it as a narrow challenge to Arizona v.

U.S.,

that's one possible pathway, which would undo a bad Supreme Court precedent that essentially says, and I'm making this very simplified, that states can't unilaterally enforce federal immigration law, or if it's under an invasion declaration, Article I authority, that's a novel concept.

Past courts have said that that's non-justiciable.

I always mess that word up, but

it basically means that it's a political question and that they don't have the power to question it.

So if that's the case, there's really

good track record here that this would stand legally, and it would set a precedent that anytime that the federal government is failing to secure the border, any border state can step in and do that under their Article I powers.

That's ultimately what we want to get to because Arizona of the U.S.

is weak based upon what current federal immigration law is, and current federal immigration law is weak.

It has too many asylum loopholes, et cetera.

So I would prefer the state of Texas to go down the invasion declaration route, make it an Article I legal question, and then set that precedent into perpetuity, empowering states greatly.

And just to clarify,

what that means in Article 1 is if there is an invasion and the federal government is not doing all that it can to repel that invasion, the state has a right to repel it itself.

That's correct.

And an invasion can be defined very broadly, an unwanted

presence on another's domain.

James Madison thought that this applied to smugglers.

Sam Houston, of course, if you're in Texas, everyone knows who Sam Houston is there.

He thought this applied to cross-border Mexican bandits.

And there's a lot of precedent here on our side that cartels are both smugglers and cross-border bandits in many respects and

worse than both.

I think it's very clear that the founders had a position that although border security was primarily the duty of the federal government, they would not have limited themselves or tied their hands behind the back if the federal government became destructive to the ends of the needs of the states, that they wouldn't have any options to step into that breach and protect their own citizens.

So, of course, this clause empowers governors in this instance, especially given how violent cartels are, how they're using every single person that's crossing the border as a part of their enterprise.

They make money off of every person that crosses the border.

And, of course, they use cross-border illegal, illegal cross-border movement to mask fentanyl that's getting struggled across the borders.

Hundreds of thousands of people are dying.

So yes, governors have this power and we certainly encourage Governor Abbott to use it.

Wade,

is there an increase because of Article 40?

I mean, yeah, Article 42, Title 42 being revoked now?

Did we see?

Go ahead.

Yes, the border is exploding because of this.

The cartels have been actively working

with

actual governments and

getting the word out to their supply lines that it's now is the time to come forward.

And that message was received and people are starting to show up on the border in the tens of thousands.

There's tens of thousands of more on the way.

Of course, we're going to hit record numbers this year.

There were over 3 million gotaways just last year alone.

It's 1.5 officially, but it's about double that in reality.

That's just the gotaways, not the people that went to the ports of entry, bogusly claimed asylum, and then were released.

You know, this is a big problem.

We're seeing people from all sorts of different countries that we haven't seen in high numbers before starting to head this way.

There's real national security concerns.

The cartels are working directly with the Mexican government in many respects.

We've got a big problem on our hands right now, big problem.

And it's all because of the Biden administration.

Wade, stay in touch with us.

If you get more evidence that this is what Texas is doing and the governor is doing,

we want to, of course,

herald him for doing that.

But I, like like you, will wait and see.

He's kind of leading from behind, in my opinion, on many things, including this.

Wade, thank you.

Thanks for having me on.

You bet.

Bye-bye.

Wade Miller.

You can

find him on Twitter at Wade Miller underscore USMC.

So, Article 1, Section 10, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution, this is the one known as the Compact Clause.

And this is what it says.

No state shall, without the consent of Congress, lay any duty of tonnage, keep troops, or ships of war in a time of peace, enter into an agreement or compact with another state or with foreign powers, or engage in war unless actually invaded or in such imminent danger as it will not admit of delay.

The clause then has restrictions on what the the states can do.

Specifically,

you cannot impose taxes on ships based on their tonnage, their weight, or cargo without a consent of Congress.

Two, you can't keep troops or warships in times of peace without the consent of Congress.

Three, you can't enter into agreements or other compacts with other states or foreign powers without the consent.

Four, declaring war or engaging in war unless actually invaded or in imminent danger that doesn't allow for delay.

This was put in the Constitution by our founders to make sure that the federal government remained in control of all of our international relations and war powers.

They didn't want states being able to declare war on Mexico and then rope the entire country into it.

This,

I believe,

that the state of Texas and the United States of America is in imminent danger.

And the government has delayed and delayed and delayed and showed they're not serious about

an invasion.

Now, if you can't say that 3 million people coming into our country is not an invasion, then you don't know anything about military strategy.

Do you know what the Chinese military strategy was against Russia?

They would send a million people over their borders and surrender.

Do exactly what's happening right now.

Come over the border and say, we just need asylum.

They would come over the border, into Russia, and surrender, million of them.

Then when that had been processed, they'd come over the border, another million, and surrender.

After five days of this,

they could overwhelm Russia and Russia would collapse.

That was the invasion strategy for China against Russia in modern day.

Now, why do we think that this isn't a strategy to collapse America when When we know we have people in our own government that want to collapse America, and we know that we have foreign governments that want to collapse America, we are focused on, well, we got to find out exactly what's happening on social media, and then pay no attention to our border, China

is a part of this strategy.

on our border, which is their strategy.

And the second strategy that China is using is the strategy the English used on the Chinese with the opium war.

Put a base camp right at the border.

Then take heroin and opium and make it as pure as you can and push it into the country and get as many Chinese people addicted to opium as possible.

The Chinese will eventually say, okay, okay, okay, enough.

Well, have we had enough yet?

Because I have.

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First, we have have Chip Roy on with us.

Hello, Chip.

How are you, sir?

Well, Glenn, you know, our state is under siege.

And, you know, I think the American people are seeing that firsthand.

And, you know, fortunately, the House Republicans took action yesterday, but this administration is leaving us stranded.

So I don't understand.

We were just talking about

Governor Abbott.

I'd sure like Governor Abbott to start leading a little more than he is.

I know he's shipping everybody out from Texas to other states, but that just hurts other states as well.

This is an invasion.

You can't have 400,000 people coming in every month and expect to keep your country.

You can't.

There are something like 30,000 apprehensions over the last three days.

I'm trying to get updates about what's going on tonight.

I've got a few folks down at the border.

giving me

sort of the latest and greatest or the latest and most terrible.

And what I'm hearing hearing is right now is that the dps and national guard folks who are down there at the order of the governor are actually on the front line trying to turn away and hold people back okay good while border patrol is effectively retreated into just full processing by basically kind of order of the dhs so we've had this kind of flip where it's actually texas folks trying to keep them from crossing and Border Patrol pulled back to process.

So you're the second source we have on this now, so I believe it.

We just had somebody else on who said that's the word that they were getting, but they'd believe it when they saw it.

So if you're getting that as well, maybe then the governor is

taking charge of the border.

Well, look, I think it's all a tough call right here.

I mean, look, I do think the governor and ZPS, they're trying to throw everything they have at it.

There is that kind of, you get right up to that point where you're either deciding to take over and literally take charge to turn turn away and return people and just put, you know, basically force your way in front of Border Patrol.

But as Bill Malugin reported, we don't have the resources.

We don't have enough people.

We don't have enough folks.

And so it's hard, right?

They'll just move to another place and then Border Patrol will just usher them right in.

And by the way, this is why the Texas House should have passed HB 20, which they crapped on this last week, instead of giving more resources to the governor.

And instead, they're passing freaking gambling bills.

That's your freaking Texas House Republicans in action.

They should have given more support to the the governor and they didn't do it.

So I just talked to Wade Miller for Citizens Renewing America and he said that if the governor calls other states,

they can send resources down.

Certainly, I think other states are willing to work with Texas.

I don't know the latest on that.

Of course, Wade's probably correct on that.

I know Wade well.

And I think there's a number of states that I know are willing to support.

I'm confident Florida would support.

And look, by the way, God bless Florida.

They just passed legislation.

They passed the Strong E-Verify bill.

They passed other strong immigration

language in their legislature that Governor DeSantis signed.

And then they just had a court

strike down these releases of migrants with nothing more than a, ho, please show up one day, not a required notice to appear.

So at least they...

they put an injunction on that for two weeks.

So they're trying to help.

But look, we got to do everything we can in Texas.

And I'm just calling on the Texas legislature to get their head out of their rear end, give more resources to the governor.

We need all states to kind of work with Texas to try to step into the breach because Border Patrol and this DHS, they're pulling back.

Now, I want to be clear: the Border Patrol agents on the line, you know, they want to do their job.

You know, it's the freaking idiots at DHS that are holding them back.

We were just

talking about China's invasion plan for Russia, and it was to send a million people over over the border to surrender their guns and to surrender to the Russians.

After five million people cross the border and surrender, Russia's overwhelmed

and it collapses and they win without firing a bullet.

This is exactly that strategy if you believe somebody is trying to collapse the United States of America.

And I happen to believe that.

Well, one thing we know for sure, I got reports just yesterday of Chinese nationals that

they're running across.

We know that Border Patrol is now being pulled into, pulled back to do processing, and they're unable to process between ports of entry.

We know we've had 1.7 million gotaways.

We know that we've gotten people from all sorts of places

connected to foreign terror states and Chinese nationals in the past.

We know exactly what's happening in terms of the porousness of our border, and we know exactly what evil a lot of people around this world want to do.

And the problem is that what people haven't firmly come to grips with is that we've got evil in our own White House and DHS who don't give a rat's rear end about our own sovereignty, security, and they want to undermine our country.

They're literally at war with the American people.

They're undermining our energy freedom.

They're spending us to death.

They're opening up our borders for all manners of danger from fentanyl to terrorists to China.

And you can only conclude that it's purposeful.

There is no other logical conclusion.

Chip, I will tell you, next week,

I'm laying out a plan, a constitutional plan

that we have talked to scholars and attorneys and

attorney generals

about it.

And it is something that we can do to fight back.

But it is time for Americans to

really dig into the Constitution and into their state constitutions and find out exactly what could be done.

Because we're in an end game here.

At some point, this will overwhelm.

I mean, I've said it, you look at the growth of Texas, of Houston, of Austin.

At some point,

these cities are no longer Texas cities, and I contend they already aren't.

They're no longer Texas cities.

When we had massive immigration at the turn of the century through Ellis Island, you were at least given

the books on how to become an American.

They were stressing, you got to fold in and become an American.

That's not happening.

You cannot add millions of people to your population

that don't know nor care anything about your history.

When our population doesn't know or care about our history or our system of government, you will change fundamentally and you'll never be able to go back to a constitutional republic because no one will know what it is.

All of this is purposeful, from the education system to the forest borders to what they're trying to do to attack our financial stability, banking system.

I mean, just go down the line.

I mean, there's literally no other explanation for it.

We have to stand up and hold the line.

And I applaud you for going down that road.

We have to do it as a free people.

We're not just going to sit back and allow

these tyrants in Washington to undermine our God-given freedom.

That's what's occurring.

I just want to be very clear.

I'm not going to allow that as a free citizen.

I'm going to protect my children, my family, my community from the tyranny of this out-of-control government.

Right now, as a member of Congress, you know, my duty is to try to move the ball forward as I can here.

It may be too little, too late.

Republicans for 20 years have pissed around and not done anything on the border because they were in the hip pocket of the gosh darn darn Chamber of Commerce.

Well, finally, we've grown his spine.

We finally passed a strong border security bill, and I'm proud of it.

It's a good bill.

We passed it yesterday, you know, and it took a lot of wrangling.

What does it say?

What does it do?

So the bill is, literally, Glenn, and I wouldn't make this up.

It is the strongest border security bill we've ever passed.

It would make very clear that the secretary, a future secretary who's not corrupt for a Republican, has straight-up authority to turn away the border for any reason he or she sees fit.

That's a really important addition.

It's like Title 42, but across the board and not related to health.

Number two, it would fix all of the crap loopholes.

It would tighten the asylum definitions.

It would fix the unaccompanied children problems.

It would fix the family unity separation problems created by courts.

And most importantly, it would require, and it would be very specific in the statute, overtaking all other laws, and it would say you may not release, period, unless someone is having a legitimate claim being adjudicated.

And I'm sorry, not unless.

you may not release, period, but you must be detained or you must be in Mexico while a legitimate asylum claim is being adjudicated, period.

That's the end of it.

It's a good bill.

It does E-Verify.

It has additional resources for Border Patrol, but only if we pass the policy changes.

It has more funding for the wall, et cetera.

Again, some of this to set up for a future Republican president, if our country can even last 18 months and God willing, we get a Republican elected.

I'm not sure we can if we don't throw ourselves in front of this train right now, which raises questions of impeachment, both for Secretary Mayorkas and the president.

It raises questions about what the states do, and it raises questions about the debt ceiling and the spending fight.

I don't see how I, as a responsible Texan, can move forward either the debt ceiling bill or a spending bill if we don't address the border crisis.

It's an absolute abhorrent, you know, undermining of our sovereignty, security.

It's endangering Texans.

So we'll see how this unfolds, but we've got to use either the debt ceiling or the spending fight in September or both to secure the border as well as other things.

You know, stop the pistol braces.

Stop the World Health Organization.

Stop the spending of money we don't have recklessly.

Stop the Stupid Inflation Reduction Act tax credits.

Now, we did all of most of those things in our bill that we passed and sent over, although we still need to address the WHO and

the pistol braces and the border.

So let me ask you, I just talked to Mike Lee about an hour ago.

He said, Congress, you did your job and you put the Reigns Act in the budget.

And I said to him, just shooting from the hip, I think that's worth even raising the debt ceiling

some, compromising on this to get the Reigns Act.

I think that reins in the

U.S.

government agencies in a way that would be extraordinary.

Do you agree with that or not?

Yeah, totally.

Thanks for bringing that up.

And And just for the listener out there, what it means is that if you have any regulation that has an economic impact or impact of greater than $100 million,

then it has to go to Congress for approval, roughly.

That's the kind of dumbspeak version of it.

So it would significantly alter the balance of what these

regulators, these bureaucrats, can do without congressional engagement.

We've ceded too much authority to them.

So, yes, it is an extremely powerful piece.

I mean, people don't realize.

I mean, look, I get slapped around on Twitter from the conservatives who I understand they're frustrated because they're assuming we're doing what Republicans have always done.

We're not.

The Speaker's Agreement in January, what we did in the debt ceiling fight, what we just did in the border bill, this border bill is righteous, conservative, and strong.

The debt ceiling bill we passed is awesome.

It's chock full of all sorts of great stuff that we sent over to the Senate.

So the question now is, do we have the backbone to not blink when we get up to June?

You know, deals can be made in order to move the ball down the field, but we should not blink on the need to address most or all of these things.

Those Inflation Reduction Act tax credits, Glenn, that money just goes into the hip pocket of liberal elitists.

90% of the dollars go into corporations.

They make over a billion dollars.

It funds the destruction of the gas industry.

You're going to have a grid that's undermined.

Your freedom is taken away, all to

enrich liberal elitists.

The Reigns Act, all these things, they're good stuff.

But let's be clear.

Our border's on fire.

They're literally destroying every aspect of our way of life.

We're not even talking about the woke, weaponized DEI crap that they're doing over at the Pentagon, for example.

So we're going to have to take all of these fights on all the way through and Lord willing, land the plane with the Republican president and get in and gut this place.

I will tell you that there's not a chance that I'm going to be in Washington anytime soon.

But the next time you're in Dallas, I owe you the biggest Fred Flintstone steak dinner I can find.

Thank you, Chip.

I appreciate it.

Well, God bless you, Glenn.

And look, thanks for having me on.

Just keep it up, man.

I mean, the American people are on to it.

I hope it's not too late.

If you're listening to this, you got to get engaged.

We got to do this.

You know, do it for your kids or grandkids.

More importantly, for your great-grandparents, grandparents who fought for this country, stormed the beaches in Normandy, sat in the foxholes in Bastogne.

You know, we don't just talk about it.

Don't just wave the flag on July 4th.

Daggummit, go man the ramparts.

We got to go do it now.

Representative Chip Roy from the great state of Texas.

Thank you, Chip.

I appreciate it.

And anyone who says, daggummit,

you listen to.

You listen listen to.