Gun Control Didn't Stop Another Senseless Shooting | 7/5/22

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Another senseless atrocity occurred at a Fourth of July celebration, but this is par for the course for multiple cities in Illinois, despite having some of the strictest gun laws in the country. Pat and Stu give some perspective to help avoid living in fear as they also discuss the latest controversial police shooting. Pat and Stu go over the latest in sports news, including the WNBA player Brittney Griner, who is currently detained in Russia on drug charges. Pat and Stu discuss some of celebrities' worst takes on abortion, along with the abortion restrictions around the world. Pat and Stu critique Gavin Newsom's latest political ad as they recall some of his questionable past behavior. The Left's abortion rhetoric continues to get more radical.
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Of course, another tragedy on the 4th of July yesterday.

We'll get into that and a lot more in 60 seconds.

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Again, yesterday, just more senseless killing.

It's just so hard to process this.

And really, you can't.

You just can't understand it why this happens.

People gather their families together and show up at six or seven in the morning with their lawn chairs and just try to enjoy a Fourth of July parade.

And then somebody starts shooting at them from a rooftop.

I don't understand it.

Apparently, this guy was known to law enforcement, which we've heard multiple times with these shootings lately.

If they're known and nothing happens, I don't, what kind of laws are we going to enact that stop this?

Other than reversing our entire system of justice, right?

Like we could go with a Chinese system where we arrest people when they look suspicious.

And I will say that.

You could do the future crime thing.

Yeah.

If you could

report.

You could do that.

I mean, I will say, if we had that law implemented and I saw this guy, I would have arrested him because he looks as if he was about to wear a shirt that says I'm a future mass shooter.

You look at a picture of this guy, he looks the part, but that's not how our society operates.

You can't just arrest somebody if they look the part.

Yeah, no, that's not how this works, pat.

Yeah.

Now, I don't know if that's been challenged in the Supreme Court.

We'll have to look into that.

I don't know.

But I will say that this system of justice is better than the Chinese one.

That is your other option, though.

You can go more and more toward that direction.

You can start arresting people when they write scary things online or when they purchase a firearm.

You can prevent them from purchasing a firearm.

We can move toward that Chinese system if we wish.

Now, we're going to have to amend the Constitution a bunch of times to get there.

So, you know, it's a lot of heavy lifting for the left, but that seems to be what they want.

here.

They seem to be able to want to charge people with crimes before they commit them.

And unfortunately, that's not, that's not how this works.

Now, we may find find out, you said they were known to police.

That covers a wide range of things.

Right?

Like it could mean that this person bought the gun illegally because they were so well known to police, they were barred from buying one.

We may find that out at some point.

It's hard, I will say, over the, since Uvalde in particular, in particularly,

I have really

I've really stopped jumping on the initial details sort of banner because they're wrong so often.

They're wrong so often and you know this is something that people have complained about for a long time the media is terrible at oftentimes especially when the police have issues and again i'm a big supporter of the police i think generally speaking they do a very good job but occasionally they don't do a great job and when that happens they tend to leak details to the media that backs up some other narrative that makes them look a little bit better uvaldi being a really prime example of that as they they were the heroes of the universe universe the day after that and then not so much later on not so much the more we learned the less hero of the universe they seemed yeah it really did turn around quickly they almost seemed like the opposite of the heroes it did turn around quickly yeah it did so i but i i i found myself fascinated watching the coverage of this because every newspaper in america every big news website was talking about this.

And at some level, it's understandable, right?

Like, as you mentioned, it's a terrible tragedy.

Here you are.

Everybody in this audience probably went out to a Fourth of July event in the most innocent way and wanted to have a nice time with their family

for a place like this to have that disturbed with gunfire from the rooftop of a building from some psychopath.

It's obviously incredibly notable, right?

It is notable and tragic and awful.

And especially because so many people were going through that same sort of event this weekend, we should note that it didn't seem to happen anywhere else.

This is one event and it was really, really bad.

But the same time that they're talking about six shot or six dead and 30 mid-30s, I believe were the injury numbers.

Incredible, unspeakable tragedy.

At the same time, in Chicago,

nine people were shot and killed and 57 shot overall.

This weekend in Chicago,

the strictest gun laws in the country.

And it happens in both places every single weekend.

Yeah.

Every weekend, this story comes out that nine dead, eight dead, twelve dead, six dead, seven dead.

Every weekend, and they don't care about it at all.

They never mention it.

They never mention it.

The only time they ever mention it is because you might bring it up and say, wait, what about all this violence in Chicago?

So that they can call you a racist.

Right.

Now, who's the racist here, Pat?

If you seem to care only about the white people at the parade being shot and not about the black and Hispanic people in Chicago that get shot every weekend, who's the racist here?

I know.

I don't think it's us.

No, it is not.

I actually do care about the people who get shot, which is why we bring it up.

We'd rather it not happen

all the time in Chicago.

Exactly.

Or anywhere else for that matter.

Yes.

You know, there's a lot of cities where they suffer this way every week and every weekend.

Baltimore, Philadelphia, New Orleans, Detroit, all of these cities are suffering with this same malady that Chicago does to one degree or another.

And they don't care about any of it.

They just keep doing the same Democrat policies.

They just keep restricting guns.

And it doesn't help at all.

If it doesn't help in these areas where we see them employed, how is it going to help nationwide?

It's so ridiculous.

They're going after hundreds of millions of guns that are legally owned by law-abiding citizens, trying to micromanage their use

instead of going after

a much bigger problem.

And I think one of the issues here is

the reason why we talk about Chicago and Baltimore and these other big cities is not just because Democrats run them into the ground constantly, although admittedly, that's part of it.

Part of it is to highlight how bad these policies are and how well they work in practice, which is terrible.

But it's not just that.

It's also that like it's a much more sensible area to focus on.

Like it's really hard to stop one 22-year-old to get from getting one gun and going on a rooftop and firing at unarmed people in a crowd.

Like it's really hard to stop that.

Yeah.

And the only way you stop it is because thankfully most people don't want to do it.

Right.

You know, that's it's just the truth.

And I mean, he's known to law enforcement.

Yep.

And yet he still got away with doing that.

Right.

Right.

In a state where they have very restrictive gun laws

and in an area that has very restrictive gun laws.

And it's just really, really hard.

Now, that doesn't mean you don't try to stop it.

Obviously, we've talked about the mental health aspects.

Stopping people with

criminal histories and mental health

factors from getting firearms is part of this focus that the left and the right kind of agree on, right?

Like we should, we should stop those people from getting guns.

But like, it's really difficult to do that.

And it's one of those things where you're talking about

an amount of people, despite how much coverage it gets, that die every year from these crimes.

It's almost impossible in a country of 330 million people to try to

eliminate that entirely.

And to make any difference on that number, you'd have to eliminate it entirely, right?

Like it's not like a crime where you chave

If you shave 20% off the amount of people who die in mass shootings every year, that would be great.

And we want to do that, but it would make no difference in the gun violence total that we're talking about all the time.

The way you can make a difference on those numbers are things like suicides, right?

Preventing suicides

is a really big pool of people who die from gun violence.

And it's much easier to try to do something about that.

Crime in inner cities is another one.

That's where almost all this stuff happens, almost all of it.

Yet it gets almost none of the coverage.

And

how do you explain that?

If it was the left explaining, I can guarantee you what they would say.

They would say it's racism.

You only care about the white victims.

You don't care about the black victims.

That's what they would say.

That's what they say about missing kids all the time, right?

Whenever there's a good-looking college girl that goes missing, man, that gets coverage from all the cable news channels.

But if it's an inner city black male, they never get any coverage.

And they say that all the time.

That would be the explanation for sure if this was the other way around.

If the left was the one handling this, they would be critical of the media and say, you don't care about the black victims.

You only care about the white victims in the nice little suburbs who are going to their July 4th events.

That's what you care about because of the color of their skin.

Now,

I don't think that that's the reality here.

I think there is something to do with that sort of crime of spectacle and this big flashy thing.

But the problem with this is the reason why a mass shooting gets a lot of coverage is also the reason why they keep occurring.

Because these psychopaths want this attention.

And so giving it to them constantly, and we have not mentioned this person's name, nor will we, giving them constant attention every time one of these things goes down does not help the situation.

It makes it much worse.

And it doesn't help our overall problem with gun violence.

It literally does everything it shouldn't and none of the things it should.

Yet this is the way it happens every time, Pat.

And that's why we're not playing his

diatribe, you know, the little video he produced.

I don't want to give him that satisfaction and that publicity, but he does have a rambling, weird video that he put out that kind of gave hints to what he might be planning to do here.

And then he went out and did it.

But I don't know how you stop it when you see, even if you see the video, even if law enforcement sees the video, can you go arrest the guy because of what he said?

He didn't clearly say, I'm going to go kill people at the 4th of July parade.

Maybe you could get him on a terroristic threat at that point, but that's not what he did.

So I don't know how you stop him even being known to law enforcement unless he's committed committed some sort of crime.

Right.

And really what you could do is try to, again, convert this country into one that

does not have innocence until proven guilt, right?

Like that's what you can do.

Right.

You can try, you can move that line.

Now, red flag laws attempt to move that line, right?

That's what they are.

And perhaps if you have some.

They're future crimes.

They're future crimes.

And perhaps if you had, you know, like they're going to say, well, I don't know.

I don't remember off the top of my head the red flag law situation in Illinois.

And I don't know if, you know, we don't know the details of this anyway.

I mean, whether it was enacted or how it worked, we'll know, you know, within weeks, I'm sure.

But the bottom line is, if you have someone who's off kilter and you report them, then maybe you could take their guns.

Was this, but like,

again,

for how long are you delaying the inevitable here?

If you haven't committed a crime, all you're doing is delaying it, which is good.

It's better than,

you know.

It's better than not delaying it.

But the trade-off here of getting rid of our system of justice to attempt these things, knowing that 99.5% of the people caught up in these red flag laws will not have done anything.

I mean, they're just going to be, you're going to be essentially punishing people for nothing in almost all cases.

That's how this works.

And the farther you go down that line, the farther you go down the reversal of the relationship between innocence and guilt, the closer you get to places like China.

And you can do it.

Lots of countries do it.

You can go live in one of them.

They're wonderful.

Flights are pretty expensive right now, but you can get there.

I wouldn't recommend it.

I have a friend who went overseas this past weekend, and they're still doing, it was an the first leg of this flight was eight hours.

And then there was another five hour and another three hour, I think, after that.

It was, you know, they're going to like Africa for some, something that I'll never do.

And I was thinking to myself, oh my gosh, that sounds terrible.

And then I heard they have to wear a mask the whole time.

Oh, they still masking on these international flights.

Really?

Can you imagine?

I can't.

I can't imagine.

So like 13 hours, 15 hours on a mask?

No, no.

And not doing it.

By the way, an eight-hour layover someplace in an airport where they also have to be masked the whole time.

Oh, my God.

Can you imagine?

No.

No.

I can't do it.

No, I can't do it.

I won't do it.

No, I will.

I mean, I wouldn't do it

without the mask.

A massive price for that, too.

Oh, my gosh.

I can't even imagine how to

do like Mount Kilimanjaro or something.

It's like,

that's probably an amazing experience to talk about when you come home.

And I got to say, I think most of the questions are going to be about the flights.

Yeah.

Not about the mountain.

Right.

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Okay, so your friends are going going to Mount Kilimanjaro.

Are they climbing?

Mount Kilimanjaro?

I don't know all the details.

I mean, they know there's helicopters now, right?

You could take a helicopter.

Even there?

Yes.

Oh, wow.

Okay, so that's

a place to land.

19,000 feet.

Yeah, it's one of the highest peaks in the world.

Now, I don't think they're like, they're not expert mountain climbers.

I don't think they're going to the top, but I guess there's like a bunch of hikes and different levels of things you can do there.

No.

And it's an amazing thing to do.

Like, the stories are going to be incredible.

But here's the crazy detail about this.

So

it's a couple.

One of them is a friend of Lisa's who is in shape, works out every day,

you know,

the typical person you'd think would think it would be desirable to go hike on a mountain.

Okay.

Go to Africa and hike Mount Kilimanjaro.

Right.

Okay.

You know, those people exist.

They seem completely foreign to me.

And there's another species, essentially.

But okay, it goes to the gym every day.

She did Pinatubo, I believe, in the past.

Who hasn't?

Right.

You know, who among us?

Pat and I.

Oh, how many times?

We used to have an annual trip.

Yeah, to Pinatubo.

It was semi-annual, actually.

Yeah, it was.

It was semi-annual.

You're right.

We used to take listeners.

It was great.

So she's done that before.

She can handle it.

Her significant other in this situation.

is fascinating because he's like a normal guy.

He's like,

yeah, like the first time we went to Pinatubo, think of that.

Think of your mindset then.

You know, he's not like a gym rat.

He's not like a marathoner.

He's not, he's just a guy.

He's like a normal guy.

He's not in bad shape, but he's just like a normal guy.

You just like, he's just going, and he didn't train for this at all.

He didn't prepare.

He didn't train.

He didn't like run, you know, a couple of miles a day to get ready for this.

He's just jumping from like office life to Kilimanjaro.

The words rude awakening come to mind?

It's funny, because isn't there a part of you that thinks, I could get through anything for a couple of days?

You know what I mean?

Yeah, I can get through any, you know, it's going to suck, and I'm probably going to be miserable for a couple of days, but I'll get through it.

It's not that big.

No, you won't.

No.

This is a terrible idea.

Yeah.

No.

What you'd be hoping for is that your flight would be canceled.

Right.

And that could happen.

This is when

like halfway there, you inject yourself with COVID and you just went to the corner.

Darn it.

I'm dull.

Oh, crap.

What a hassle.

Oh, well, you go on your own, honey.

Like, that's, that's what you're doing.

Don't let me stop.

No.

But I'm going to be holed up in the hotel.

Or at the very least, you somehow acquire a positive COVID test that someone else has taken and you just stuff it in your luggage and then you just pull it.

Oh, my God.

I just, I decided, I didn't feel great.

I decided to take a test.

And look at this.

There it is.

I've tested positive.

Speaking of the flights, though, did you see that Delta Airlines was offering $10,000 to people to give up their flight?

Really?

$10,000

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Yeah, I guess.

I'm taking that.

Yeah.

Because I've been in the bottom of the bottom

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Yeah, they started at $5,000.

Oh, wow.

I think I would have been tempted at $5,000.

I've never seen it that high.

I haven't either.

I've seen it at like $2,000.

We'll give you $300

or a discount on your next flight.

No, no, thank you.

They usually give you that thing where they're like, it gives you, at least America, I think it's American Airlines that does this, and they give you like three options.

They're like, you know, we need someone to leave.

How much would you take to leave?

And you could pick the highest one.

There's like a middle one and a low one.

So

every once in a while, I'll click the highest one.

I'll be like, you know what?

They're going to give me $1,600.

Yeah.

I'm going to change my flight.

But $10, $10,000.

I mean, I'm in.

I think I'm in on that.

I'm taking that.

Because I'm flying for years.

Yeah.

On this.

Like, I'm flying.

I'm going to be like, I'm going to have the pilot deal where I get to just like hop in into the plane and go wherever I want for years on that.

Yeah, it'd be awesome.

That would be worth $10,000.

Incredible.

I have a vacation coming up.

There's no way I'm getting to the location, is there?

No.

There's no way.

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Something that happened that can't happen because it doesn't happen anywhere but here.

There was a mass shooting in Copenhagen,

which is not in this country.

I don't know if you're aware of that, but Copenhagen is not in the United States.

It's not Copenhagen, Texas.

No, it's not.

Copenhagen, Denmark.

And

three people were killed, multiple people shot and wounded at a mall in Copenhagen.

So

I think somebody's lying there because it doesn't happen in other countries.

It only happens here

as it did again on the 4th of July, of course.

And there was another shooting, interestingly, but it involved police shooting a suspect.

Yeah, I just have to mention here on the Denmark thing because people will say, well, yeah, one shooting.

One.

How many have you had in

the United States?

264 this year alone.

Oh, and we have to get into that because that's really a frustrating part.

Oh, it is.

Because

now I'm getting sidetracked, but like the Chicago shooting, right?

What they love to do is ignore the fact that nine were killed and 57 shot in Chicago, separate from the mass shooting that happened

in the suburbs.

They want to ignore that and only talk about the mass shooting.

But they get to have things both ways because then they will include multiple incidents from Chicago over the weekend and call them quote-unquote mass shootings and insert them into this number they keep building, which everybody who's looked at knows is ridiculous, but they keep doing it anyway because they so they get the best part of both worlds.

They get to blame guns for the incident and build their mass shooting numbers while completely ignoring that their own cities and their own policies are the places all these things are occurring.

Yes.

It's fascinating.

And really places with the strictest gun control in the country.

Yes.

Like Chicago.

Fascinating.

By the way,

6 million people in Denmark.

Okay.

There's 6 million.

We have 330 million.

So we have, what, 60 times almost as many people.

So in theory, if all else was equal, which it's not,

if all else were equal, you would expect to hear

about a

shooting in Denmark approximately 1 60th

of the amount of time.

Right.

So when you do this, and they do this all the time, they lean on things like, for example, New Zealand's per capita deaths from mass shootings are higher than ours because they've had like three or four really bad ones.

I mean, two really bad ones.

That they have taken guns from their citizens.

They have nothing.

Not only did they ban them, they took them from those who had guns.

And the thing you're talking about is probably the after the Christchurch shooting, which was this really terrible one that happened a couple of years ago.

But they did the same thing after the previous mass shooting, which Christchurch was after, right?

They took away tons of guns the first time, too.

Right.

So, you know, we went through all this.

If you go to

Sue does America on YouTube, we did a gun special.

We went through all the mass shooting numbers and showed all this data just to show that, like, because these things, I'll be honest, do feel like they happen a lot here, and it sucks.

It really does.

It feels, I mean, I talk to people who are big Second Amendment supporters.

and aren't talking about taking guns away, but still just, gosh, I can't believe this is happening.

What do we do about it?

And that is a legitimate conversation.

We should do something, whatever we can, within the bounds of the Constitution and our law and our traditions.

We should do something.

On the other hand, we do have to realize

you do not need to be terrified every time you go to a Fourth of July parade.

Like, just statistically, your chances are still.

Think of how many people yesterday went to this parade.

I mean, like, this is kind of a crazy thing.

We probably had 20 parades just in the Metroplex.

Right.

Oh, yeah, at least.

And nothing happened in any of them.

Nothing happened happened in any of them right uh you know your chance if you went to let's say there's i don't know i'm throwing up i did this with schools because this is the real number for schools but there's a hundred and fifty thousand schools in the united states 150 000 the fact that you can name three incidents from the past you know 10 years at schools from sandy hook to parkland to uvaldee are the three now obviously there have been other incidents in between but they've you know much smaller scale

three massive scale incidents over a decade with 150,000 schools.

It number one highlights how impossible it is to stop, right?

How do you stop three incidents over a decade in 150,000 schools where kids are going to these schools 180 days a year?

It could happen at any of these schools on any of these days.

So

finding and stopping an incident like that is really, really hard.

You can make it worse by some of the actions that it looks like the police did not take in Uvalde, but like to actually stop it is really difficult.

Sometimes they do, and they do stop some of them.

But the same thing is with these Fourth of July parades.

Then think about the actual parade.

How many people went to that parade?

Probably 5,000, 10,000.

We do have, we have six people dead, which is horrible.

And I can't, it's hard to overstate how terrible it is.

But it's also

important to put in perspective.

Even if you went to the parade, your chances of

being shot were very low.

And even if you got shot, it seems like about 80% of people survived.

So, I mean, like, it's important to put that stuff in perspective.

It doesn't make it any better for the families.

It doesn't make it any better.

It doesn't mean we shouldn't try to stop it.

But it is important to keep things in perspective and not live your life in constant terror, which is what the media seems to want you to do.

You know, like the chances of these things happening to you are much lower than you getting into a terrible car accident.

Like,

there are other things to worry about that are much more prominent.

I went like three steps off of where we were going there.

We were talking about the Copenhagen.

Have we settled on Copenhagen now?

Because that's what I want.

I'm staying on Copenhagen.

I'm not going to Copenhagen.

You can call it Copenhagen all you want in the mainstream media.

I'm not going there.

But

it's true that, like, yes, they have fewer events in Denmark than we do, but that's also partially just because they don't have a lot of people.

They also don't have a lot of racial strife

in Denmark.

Because

they're all the same race.

Yeah, they're

all white people who have lived there for 75 centuries.

And honestly, like, it's so cold at times.

You can understand why.

Like, people are just like, look, I don't want to go

outside, let alone shooting anybody.

I'm not doing it.

Exactly.

Yeah.

So there's a lot of aspects that

go into that.

There was another shooting.

And again, this is the same type of thing where the media tries to convince all black people that they should be terrified of police because they are out on the hunt for you all the time.

This is what police do: they wake up in the morning, they have donuts.

This is the one thing we know about police officers, they have to have donuts, and after they have donuts, they walk around looking for black people to shoot at the streets for no particular reason.

This is the narrative we get from the media all the time.

This is what they do.

So, there's a case in Akron,

and they had a

guy's name was

Jalen Walker.

And Jalen Walker was

going to be pulled over for a traffic stop.

And of course, the narrative is, to just give you the summary in case you don't know the story and you wanted to read a media story.

A guy

was unarmed, black man, running from police, was shot at about 60 times.

By police.

By police.

And

this should not happen over a traffic stop, Pat.

No, it shouldn't.

It should not happen.

No, that's right.

No, it should not.

And it shouldn't.

I would agree.

In fact, you are the king of traffic stops.

You've been pulled over 15,000 times since you moved to Texas.

It's never happened to you.

Why?

Because you're white.

White.

That's the only reason.

I'm white.

Now, I assume you did all the things that Jalen Walker did in this particular story.

And you just, they just, at the end, said, oh, gosh.

Pat Gray, you're so silly.

I can't believe you just drove away from us like this.

So what happened was,

let me tell you, this sounds familiar to you in the way you deal with police incidents when you get pulled over.

Okay.

known speeder Pat Gray.

Jalen Walker gets pulled over for a traffic stop.

Was he speeding?

I don't know if he was speeding, honestly, on that part of the story.

But he decides, he feels apparently for some reason, things might not go well.

Now, maybe he's guilty of a crime.

Yeah.

Maybe he's just terrified of police officers.

I don't know.

But he decides to

leave.

and not pull over and run from police in the car.

So he's driving away from police.

He eventually gets surrounded by police cars, pulls over again, and then leaves again, somehow escapes the situation.

And once again,

so far, this is really familiar.

I've done this

probably 15, 20 times.

15, 20 times, and never been shot at it.

Never been shot.

Amazing.

That white skin really gets you out of those problems.

And so he then escapes from cops.

While he's driving,

he fires his gun out the window.

Now, when

you are being chased chased by police and you fire a gun out the window,

you have escalated this beyond just running from the police.

You have now fired a weapon out the window.

Now, we, to give the disclaimers here, this is what we're told

from the police.

This is their justification, right?

So we should be skeptical over these things as people are, you know, should be treated with skepticism, as we saw in Uvalde, right?

Like at times, you have to make sure, sometimes they don't tell the truth.

However, in this particular case, there's no indication that they know the driver is black at this point.

And the officer says it while they're driving.

Okay, he just fired a gun out the window.

We have a shot fired.

This is before they've even had an interaction with him.

So it would be really hard to come up with a situation in which,

like, they don't even know he's black yet.

And they're planting this information before they even see him.

It's just, it would be too much for any reasonable conspiracy theory.

But I'll allow for the possibility anyway, because you never know in these situations.

Eventually, he gets out of the car, decides to run from police.

He gets out of the car on foot, runs from police, then turns around back toward police, and they shoot him a bunch of times.

Now, for some reason, the focus of the story is how many times they shot him.

Once dead,

does it really matter how many times you've been shot?

I know from watching many, many movies, Pat,

that you watch the movie and they shoot the bad guy and then they all start celebrating and hugging each other while the bad guy gets up slowly in the background.

When you use a firearm, like that's what you're trying to disable the person who may be trying to kill you.

And the police, after seeing this guy already fire a weapon seemingly at them, kind of had an indication he may be violent.

Right.

So when he turned to them, they fired him.

They hit him a bunch of times.

I mean, look, if they shot him and he was dead, and then they walked up to him and shot him a thousand more times, there would be criticism to be put on the police officers, though it wouldn't change the outcome.

It wouldn't make it more tragic.

He was already dead.

Well, but then he was mega dead.

Then he was Mega Doppler dead.

Mega Doppler dead?

Yeah.

Wow.

That sounds bad.

And that's bad.

That's bad.

Yeah.

You don't want that.

But, like,

there are times where math comes into play here.

And let me walk people through the math if they're not familiar with this.

Did they not find the gun on him when they shot him?

They did not.

But that's the argument from the lawyer.

He was unarmed.

At least that's what they're saying.

He was unarmed.

Well, an unarmed guy firing a weapon out the window, that doesn't compute to me.

Okay.

Here's the math of the situation, though.

This is advanced level calculus, Pat.

If you do X, Y, and X, and Y, Z often occurs.

If you run from police,

if you fire weapons, at police.

If instead of falling down on the ground and putting your hands behind your back, you turn back toward police during a chase.

Oftentimes, you will get shot.

The color of your skin is not material to that equation.

And be like, well, disproportionately, look at the actual numbers.

I'm not going to bother breaking them down for you.

That's a nonsensical argument that isn't true.

About, I mean, this is from criminologists, an African-American criminologist who went through the numbers and said, actually, it looks like white people are more likely to get shot of these incidents.

So

don't even bother with that nonsense.

But the bottom line is you can't, you should not do those things.

The police may have acted improperly.

Maybe we will find out they didn't fire a weapon and they had some big conspiracy against this guy.

If that's true, obviously none of this applies.

But either way, you don't run from police.

You don't turn back toward them when they are asking you to get down on your knees.

You certainly do not fire weapons at them out of a speeding car.

Wasn't that a Chris Rock

sketch at one time?

I think you're right.

I think he talked about that.

I think you're right.

I'm not going to use the words

he used

to recreate it.

But yes, I think you're right.

Yeah.

You know, you might look into that and listen to that for pretty good safety tips.

You know, he was being funny, but it was a good safety tip, what he was trying to tell everybody.

You know, just

don't act like that.

Don't run from police.

Don't shoot at police.

And then chances are better that you're not going to get shot.

Yeah, you might not eliminate every single bad outcome because sometimes police do act terribly.

Sometimes they just act inappropriately and wrong, not based on race, but just

handle a situation terribly or poorly, or maybe they're corrupt, or maybe they're violent.

Who knows?

It does happen.

But you're going to eliminate 99.9% of the stock you are if you just don't act like that.

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Right.

Amazing.

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Don't worry about that.

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The sports world being turned upside down in a couple of different places.

College football for one,

with

USC and UCLA leaving the Pac-12 for the Big Ten, which means that the Big Ten will have teams from Maryland to California now.

These conferences make literally no sense at this point.

They're no same at all.

The numbers don't mean anything anymore.

None of it makes sense.

Exactly.

I can't even follow it anymore.

Very difficult to follow.

And so all of a sudden, the Pac-12 is like on the verge of collapse.

And so

what holds it together right now is Oregon and Washington are waiting on Notre Dame's decision.

as to whether or not, because they've been invited, whether or not they're going to join the Big Ten.

If they do, then I I guess Oregon and Washington are out and would maybe go to the Big 12 at that point.

The Big 12 seems to be in a little bit of a problem, too, because they probably need to merge or just about merge with the Pac-12.

Yeah, it's impossible to keep track of.

It's incredible what's happening.

And so what's happening right now is they're forming two super conferences, the Big Ten and the SEC.

And they think that those two conferences might wind up with 30 teams each and then just split off from the NCAA.

And that changes everything.

Everything.

Incredible.

Isn't that something?

I mean, that's really an upending

American tradition.

Right.

You know?

Right.

Where I need something to hold on to.

Yeah.

Everything else is being uprooted.

Don't take this from me, too, please.

Please.

Well, at least you have golf you can depend on.

The PGA will be there forever.

And apparently, not so much.

Yeah.

I mean, that's the the whole, we've talked about this a little bit, I think, on the show, but the Live Golf Tour, which has pulled all these big golfers from the PGA, offering them nine-figure checks.

Is that the one supported by the Saudis?

Yeah.

What does Live stand for?

Do you know?

I believe

54, which is all their tournaments are.

L1V or whatever.

Yeah, I mean,

it's a clever way of

living golf.

Live golf.

Also, LIV being 54, and they play 54 whole tournaments instead of the normal 72.

One of their many tweaks of the format for normal PGA tournaments.

Is that favorable to the golfers?

Do they like that?

They play less.

I mean, the less work for more money.

I don't know.

Is that favorable?

How would you feel about that?

I would feel pretty good.

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Okay.

Oh, okay.

Well, I see.

Wait a minute.

Let me tell you this.

One of our stated allies is behind the money.

Uh-oh.

Uh-oh.

Are you going to...

Again, we all know Saudi Arabia has a lot of shady stuff going on.

We are aware of this.

They are not angels.

But there are certain classifications of countries, right?

Like North Korea, currently Russia, is in this area where we're like, okay, like.

Known adversary doing really terrible things.

We're not going to do any business with them.

We're cutting them off entirely or as much as we can from the economy.

There's another level below that, which is like, you know, in some ways like China, right?

Where like they are kind of a known adversary at this point, but we don't, we don't, we still have lots of economic activity.

We still buy all their stuff at Walmart.

Tons of it, right?

And we still have a major relationship with them.

We still have a lot of American companies doing production over there.

A lot of that stuff goes on.

Then there's another layer of, you know, there are places like India, where like India does a lot of stuff that we wouldn't agree with, but we have a generally, at least we did until Joe Biden had a generally friendly relationship with India.

I mean, freaking, you know, the Indian people love Donald Trump more than Melania loves Donald Trump.

I mean,

I think they got like gold statues of the guy all over the country.

They loved Donald Trump and they love, in some ways, love America.

That's sort of faded recently, and there's been some differences there since Biden has been in control.

But still, like,

those are countries that we would not agree with their policies.

We would not agree with how many of the people people in the country are treated, but we have a generally warm relationship with them and do tons and tons of trade with those countries.

Saudi Arabia is, you know, in many ways, has been an ally of ours.

Like they have been, they don't like terrorism either.

They've been victims of it many times.

Now, they also

have been involved in.

Yes.

Let's

quite famously 9-11 is not exactly something to overlook here.

But But like, they can't stand Iran.

They have a lot of similar interests in that region.

And they're sort of in that area where we say they're an ally.

That's not exactly what they are.

I wouldn't say they're an ally, but they do assist us on certain things.

And then they do a lot of really terrible things that we don't like.

Other than that, what are the categories of countries?

You have countries like Europe, where we generally have Western values.

They constantly say how terrible we are and everything that we do that they don't like.

They're constantly critical of us.

Our president goes overseas and criticizes our Supreme Court in front of overseas audiences in these countries.

But like, you know, other than Europe, basically that's what you have in the world.

You have countries that, generally speaking, are disagreeable to us and our values.

And if you're going to continue having any form of international trade, you're going to have to put up with a lot of stuff you don't agree with.

You know, you basically should, you basically can only eliminate the most egregious offenders.

And Saudi Arabia, while they do a lot of things we don't like, does not fall into that category for the United States.

You know, so I, right.

Yeah.

So, but they're still getting a lot of flack, right?

A lot, yeah.

The players who are considering joining the tour.

Has anybody officially joined it?

Yeah, yeah, a bunch.

You know, Phil Nicholson was kind of the big first one to drop.

But they're talking about he got paid $200 million to go over there.

$200 million.

Bryson DeShambeau went over.

It's guaranteed just

for joining the tour.

I believe it's

technically appearance fees.

So they have to actually show up at the tournaments.

I think I'd go for $200 million.

I think I would.

I would too.

Yeah, I hate to admit that, but I think I'd join the Saudi tour.

And I'll say this to the Saudi Arabian government right now.

If they're looking for a new show called Studios Saudi Arabia and they got nine figures behind that, let's talk.

You know, I mean, no offense to Glenn and the Blaze.

Right.

But, you know, if you

talk about like

sand storms

every now and then,

how they're good.

You should like them.

You should thank the government for bringing you the Saudi oil is

really quality.

Oil.

The best oil.

And you should be buying it.

Comes out of the ground.

And I, look,

other governments might not do that as well.

And that's why I support this, you know,

government would be hard to turn down.

It would be

almost impossible to turn down.

Would you turn it down for North Korea?

I think there's a lot of people who would say,

no, probably.

But I think, yes, you're right.

You're going to turn it down if it's North Korea.

If it's Saudi Arabia, I mean, like, Coca-Cola sells a lot of Coca-Cola in Saudi Arabia.

No one hassles them about it.

Why are we hassling golfers about it?

Good question.

We have a relationship with this country.

Like they're not, there is a very limited amount of country.

We don't do it very often.

We didn't do it to Russia after they took Crimea, right?

Like they had to really go all out for us to get this this pissed off at Russia.

Like North Korea has, you know, internment camps all over their country and we don't have that relationship and they don't they don't want an outside relationship.

Obviously, they're a very strange country.

But like China has internment camps all over their country and we still have a relationship with them.

Yeah, we still do a lot of trade with them.

Very few people outside the right criticize the NBA for the relationship they have with China.

Yeah.

And if you do it, you're called a racist and banned off of social media.

And by the way, Brittany Greiner is still

being held in Russia.

She's absolutely incredible.

Still, she's begging.

She wrote a letter begging Biden to get her out.

And she's still there.

It really is.

July 5th now.

What was she taking?

She was arrested in, was it March?

It was after the war.

It was like a month.

I feel like it was like several weeks or a month after the war started, which is like, gosh, the fact that she was even there

is amazing.

But she goes, from what I understand, she goes every year.

Yeah.

Because, you know, there's money to be made in Russia.

And so they have a women's professional league.

And she goes over there to supplement the income because they don't make that much in the WNBA.

Yeah, I mean, they make, I mean, they do fine.

Yeah, they do

hundreds of thousands of dollars.

And based on the, you know, based on the audience size, the fan size.

And arguably, they should make zero dollars.

I mean, like, let's be honest.

Let's be honest about it.

Arguably, the numbers should be zero.

Arguably, yes.

And I will say, you know, people are like, oh, we've talked a lot about women's sports recently.

It's been a big topic on talk radio.

Oh, I can't believe they're letting this, you know, this swimmer win these swim meets.

And let's be honest about it.

I don't.

care who wins the swim meets, frankly.

Literally, the only thing that I care about when it comes to women's sports, sports, I will give you the one time I'm interested when my daughter is playing.

Yeah.

Literally the only time I will ever be interested in women's sports.

Although, well, that's not fair.

Women's tennis, I like watching.

I think women's tennis is entertaining, even as it compares to men's tennis, because at least it's not just ace, serve, ace, serve, ace, serve, ace every single point.

So like women's tennis to me is actually more entertaining.

There's a couple things here and there, but generally speaking, like I'm not a huge passion guy when it comes to the authenticity of women's sports.

But it's, it's fascinating to kind of see this stuff happen.

I mean, Brittany Griner is like one of the four names in the WNBA I might be able to come up with.

Yeah, she's pretty famous, right?

Like a big star.

I don't think I could come up with three others, frankly.

Rossi, Diana Taros, is she still playing?

Okay, she's still on.

I think she still plays.

Is she?

I think she does.

She's got to be like 63 years old by the time.

She's like the Kareem of the sports.

She's been around for a long time.

I could give you Rebecca Lobo, but she hasn't been in the world.

She lives in time.

I mean, it's true.

It's not something I care about, generally speaking.

I think it highlights the issue

of the trans stuff and how nuts it is to the average American really well, though.

And it's like, I can tell you, if my daughter, you know, gets a silver instead of a gold someday because some dude decided to come over and kick her butt

in women's sports, I'm going to be very, very passionate about it.

And I think that's how most Americans can connect to that issue.

We have to be, it's just, it's just a way to highlight to the American people

how ridiculous this is because everyone can quantify it there.

It's hard to quantify,

it's hard to understand someone who's going through a transgender type of issue to the average American who isn't trans.

Now, I know polling's starting to show that maybe the average American is trans.

So I don't know how much longer I can make this point.

I think about 80% of us are.

It seems like about 80% right now.

But like, the average person can't relate to

what those people are going through.

I mean, it's, it's, you know, I don't know.

I don't know how to explain it.

I can't ever comprehend or contemplate that it could happen to me.

I don't, you know, so I don't, it's not part of my lived experience, as they say, Pat.

But the average American can very much see, okay, this is ridiculous here.

You know, you might be like, oh, I don't want to be mean.

I don't want to be leave her behind like this.

Yeah.

I can't believe it's been this long.

It's been months, at least three months, and maybe four.

And she should have been released.

If Donald Trump were in office, first of all, I don't think it would have ever happened.

I don't think she would have been arrested in the first place.

But if she had been, I think he'd have her back in two days.

And yet she's languishing over there in a Russian jail, and it just keeps going and going and going.

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I mean,

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Was that their goal?

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There was nothing really that would have stopped the vote.

I mean, they could have delayed it for a little, a few hours, which they did, and then they voted anyway, and everything was fine.

Well, you do remember, of course, the truth here, Pat, which is January 6th, they were supposed to have this vote and then they'd count the vote to name who the president was going to be.

And then what happened was that on January 6th, they did it.

They counted the vote.

Yeah.

Yeah, they did the exact vote.

And it was later, though, than initially planned.

Right.

It didn't happen at the exact minute they were going to do it, but it happened later that same day.

And that's

frightening.

And by the way, we should also note that like

Mike Pence was a good part of the reason that did occur, right?

Like he, you know, he decided, you know, he wanted to go.

Look, it's in the scope of the American democracy,

this day gets overstated quite a bit.

Quite a bit.

It sure does.

It was a bad day.

Bad things happened.

It was a riot.

It was a riot.

And when riots happen, I say they're bad all the time.

I know that's not the position of the media, who tends to tell me that they're mostly peaceful fires,

but like, I think they're all bad.

But, like, I don't think democracy was at risk.

It wasn't.

I mean, when it's so overstated, it's just, it's nonsense that democracy, which we don't have, was at risk.

That's true, too.

That's a good point.

I mean, there are elements of

democracy in our republic.

Yes, but they were not at risk.

They were not at risk.

They were not at risk.

These were the worst insurrectionists in the history of insurrection.

But Romney goes on to describe that

the left is thinks the right is at fault for ignoring climate change and the attacks on our political system.

The right thinks the left is the problem for ignoring illegal immigration and the national debt.

But it's only Mitt Romney who really knows all that is wrong and needs to be righted.

I mean, this guy,

who does he think he is?

And he continues to just

acquiesce to the left on a regular basis and accept their premise, like January 6th and climate change.

Well, I don't accept the premise that man is causing all the climate change.

I don't believe that.

I think that

the sun is very responsible for the warming of our temperatures.

Tell us more about that.

On this sun, you refer to it.

Well, there's a 2 million degree burning orb in the sky,

and some people call it the sun.

Now, 2 million degrees, I mean, on the surface, it's only 11,000, but as it travels out with all the gases and things, and they don't really know all the reasons, it gets much, much warmer.

But then that sends warm air our way.

Like in the mail?

No, like through space.

And these rains actually come to this planet and warm it.

At least that used to be the theory.

But now, I guess it's all CO2.

It's all CO2.

Wow.

The sun has nothing to do with it anymore.

I gotta look.

Can you is there a way to see it, like in a telescope or something?

Yes, really?

Yes, you can.

Don't do that, though.

That'll hurt your eyes.

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This is interesting.

A

woke Universal Music Group worker

claims he was fired for speaking up about abortion rights.

After he admitted he refused to work because he was in mourning over the Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v.

Wade.

Well, you can't be expected to work when you're in mourning.

I mean,

that's just inhuman.

Michael Lopez, a production coordinator at Universal Music Enterprises, blasted the company as anti-gay for terminating a queer brown person, unquote,

during Pride Month for speaking up in defense of abortion rights.

Last Friday, he says, like countless other folks, I was devastated by the news of the Supreme Court's attack on abortion rights.

Paired with the flood of anti-queer and anti-trans legislation, it's been hard to process how companies expect us to be productive while our rights are being stripped away, and yet they did expect him to be productive.

What?

Yeah.

Productive.

What about his processing time?

I know.

That's a big thing these days.

A lot of people take a long time to process.

Processing, mourning, all of those things need to occur.

And yet, the Universal Music Group said, no, we want you to work.

He said, no, I'm in mourning.

So they fired him.

They fired him.

They expected him to work on a workday.

Wow.

So no wonder the fallout continues over that decision by the U.S.

Supreme Court to take away women's rights,

as we've seen

many people claim, including we talked about Jessica Beale already.

Also, Katie Perry,

thank God you brought this up.

Yeah, this is so sad.

You know, we live in a country

where women have no rights.

None.

I don't know if you know that.

None.

A lot of people making the same point.

You know, a lot of people made the point.

Now, guns

have more rights than women in this country.

Is that what I'm hearing?

It is what you're hearing.

That doesn't mean it's true or real or significant in any way.

It's just ridiculous nonsense.

And Katy Perry went down that road a little bit.

She said,

Katy Perry said,

hey,

she said

something about, I guess, a reference to one of her dumb songs about fireworks, which unfortunately she made because now I have to hear it over and over again every July 4th.

The word firework is in it.

Quick, put it on our playlist.

It's like, all right, the song sucks.

Can we all agree the song sucks?

It's it's her saying

life is like you and I definitely agree.

Yeah,

yes.

That I'm surprised at because I know you're a huge Katy Perry fan.

Oh, big time.

Got all her

CDs and stuff.

You do?

Oh, yeah.

All of them.

Oh, every one of them.

So she said...

You know, something, some reference to her song, which I won't recount because it's too disturbing

that people liked it at some point.

But she says something about a sparkler in it.

She says, Now women have less rights than a sparkler.

Less rights than a sparkler.

What is the right of a sparkler?

I don't know.

At least the gun one tied into the news.

Yeah.

Like the gun one was like, okay, well, they did say that the Second Amendment agrees and that you have a right to carry a gun.

So therefore, like, at least guns are a reference point here.

Like, for her, like, I guess because everyone plays her dumb song once a year, she was thinking about the word sparkler and then said,

women have less rights as sparkler.

Now, here's something interesting about the United States of America, Pat.

Women can and do

own sparklers.

Oh, that's a lie.

That's not true.

It's true.

They own sparkling.

That can be true.

Now,

the opposite.

Wow.

Very few sparklers own women.

That does almost never happens in this country.

Now, if you may have an incident here or there, I don't want to discount it completely.

Okay.

But my understanding is very often

it's

the other way around.

It's the other way around.

Women own the sparkler rather than the sparkler owning the woman.

Right.

So I don't think that that's...

You don't think it's accurate?

That's accurate at all in any way.

And it's so weird because, like, first of all, we know in this country, you can have an abortion at any point during the pregnancy.

That is what the post-roe world allows you to have an abortion in this country at any point in the pregnancy.

That is the reality here, okay?

You may need to travel.

There was a situation that happened in Ohio, and this is a big point on

the left.

Yeah, this is what they're going to hammer home because this happens all the time.

10-year-olds get pregnant all the time.

Super, super common.

Now, look, this is a terrible, I don't know what the backstory is fully on it, but like, obviously a terrible incident.

This 10-year-old got pregnant somehow, wanted to have an abortion.

And had to travel out of Ohio.

And there's no such thing as, I don't know if people know this, and then this may confuse the left, who seemingly wants to drag sexual intercourse into every aspect of a 10-year-old's life.

But there is no such thing as consensual sex for a 10-year-old.

Okay.

Not a thing that occurs.

It's not possible.

So we know that it was obviously bad things that led to this.

And so this kid, you know, they want to get an abortion.

Now, look, this is obviously the most extreme of extreme of extreme of extreme of extreme cases.

And this is brought up

over the weekend.

This shows like how crazy this is.

Look at this.

She can't get this abortion in Ohio.

She has to go to Indiana.

And this situation happens, it occurs in about 0.001% of cases

for abortion.

Yep.

We just saw these stats last week.

It's like 0.001%

of the time.

It's incredibly rare.

And of course, every single state that is banning, quote-unquote, banning abortion has an exception for life of the mother.

And almost all states have it for rape and incest.

It's most of them wound up doing.

Now, I guess

most states would have been able to accommodate this 10-year-old.

Right.

But what had to happen was she had to go to Indiana to get this abortion.

Now, take out the whole debate because that's like 9,000 miles away.

No, it's not that far.

47,000 miles away.

No, it's not that far at all.

Take out the whole debate on what the right outcome would be here for this situation.

It's obviously extreme and terrible, and there's no reason to go into that at this moment.

But my point here is...

By the way, Indiana, another red state, another red state.

So they go to another red state, from one red state to another red state for her to get this abortion.

But, like, my guess is, as this little girl grows up, and I assume she was a girl, though, obviously, men can get pregnant.

Obviously.

I don't even know why you, why would you even bring that up?

Well, I just wanted to make sure we were clear.

We want to make sure we were clear.

No matter what happens, my guess is as this little girl grows up and becomes a woman and tells a story, the most consequential part will not be the travel.

That's right.

You know,

my guess is

the road trip is going to take a very small part of that story.

Like it's going to be the terrible thing that led to the pregnancy.

It may also be what happened with the abortion itself and may affect her as well.

Who knows what, I mean, you know,

you can't even speak about how terrible the circumstance is here.

But like the travel is really a small part of that story.

And yet it was the only thing, the only thing that the left wanted to talk about.

And it's so bizarre.

We talked about Jessica Beale as well going overseas and being like, oh, I want to embrace these overseas laws.

That would make things,

that would make things much, much better.

Well, do you know what these

what these laws look like overseas?

Because I don't think they do.

Let me give you a few of them here.

This is all from Europe.

Our favorite, Liechtenstein, which everyone, I mean, how many times have you gone there?

I know you have a Liechtenstein.

Yeah, I've got a summer place.

Liechtenstein.

Yes, you've got

it's illegal, abortion, illegal, excepting rape cases where a woman is under 14 years old.

So if you're 15 and you're raped, it's completely illegal.

But if you're 14 or under and raped,

it is legal.

That's the only exception.

Completely illegal.

In Malta,

illegal in all cases.

In

all cases, they have no exceptions.

No exceptions in Malta.

Legal in all cases.

Wow.

Okay, this is enlightened Europe.

Now, I haven't got to the big, big-name countries here.

So this is where you're going to get the good liberal stuff, right?

Right.

Ireland.

Now, Ireland, we know, has famously banned it until very recently.

It was legal up to the, now it's legal up to the 12th week with exemptions for life and health risk to a woman or fetal abnormality.

In Andorra, illegal in all cases.

Samantha's mother in bewitched?

Yes.

She will not be able to do it.

Why does she have her own laws?

That's really weird.

She's a witch.

Obviously.

Poland, illegal, except in cases of rape, fetal malformation, or serious threat to a woman's health.

Portugal, legal up to the 10th week of pregnancy after a mandated, mandated three-day waiting period.

Imagine trying to implement that on women of the left.

No.

We have to wait three days.

No way.

Switzerland, enlightened Switzerland, legal up to the 12th week of pregnancy if a woman files a written request that she is in a situation of distress and doctors provide comprehensive information and recommended counseling on moral and material help and adoption.

Jeez.

Can you imagine implementing that system on California right now?

No.

They would look at that as the handmaid's tail.

Yep.

That's Switzerland.

Italy.

Woman has 90 days from the date of conception to request, request an abortion.

The termination must be, must be due to health, economic, social, or family reasons.

Fairly broad.

You can get one, but still 90 days.

Finland, illegal up to the 12th week of pregnancy, but only if a woman can provide a social reason such as poverty, extreme distress, or already having at least four children.

So if you're the fifth kid,

you're an auto distress to this family.

And Pat, you have, what, 62 kids, so you would know how that works.

Yes.

In France, this is the country that she was actually talking about, legal up to the 12th week of pregnancy.

Later stage abortions are allowed if two physicians certify that the abortion will prevent grave permanent injury to physical or mental health, life of the woman or the child if it will suffer from an incurable illness.

Okay,

that's where the croissants are for Jessica Beale.

Belgium.

Legal up to the 12th week of pregnancy with six days of counseling prior to abortion.

Six days of counseling.

Imagine requiring counseling.

Germany, legal up to 12th week of pregnancy, exceptions made for serious threat to mothers' physical or mental health.

First trimester abortions are subject to a mandatory three-day waiting period and counseling.

These are all far more stricter than U.S.

laws were before Roe v.

Wade being overturned.

Yeah, and I remember going through this

initially.

At the time, the most lenient states in Russia or countries in Russia had laws roughly

equal to, but a little bit more conservative than Utah.

Utah.

Wow.

Denmark, legal up to the 12th week.

Exceptions made for a rape and threats to the health or life

or if a woman can demonstrate the lack of financial resources to care for a child.

Spain, legal up to the 14th week of pregnancy.

Sweden, 18th week of pregnancy.

It's illegal after the 22nd week.

Abortions are granted

between 18 and 22 if approved by the National Board of Health and Welfare.

Can you imagine requiring women to go through that here?

Netherlands, up to 21 weeks, legal up to the 24th week if medical reasons dictate.

England up to the 24th week of pregnancy.

But again, like these are all more restrictive than what our country was just a few weeks ago.

Yeah.

Okay.

Iowa.

Oh, now it's just some of the states.

Iowa was up to the 22nd week.

South Carolina, the 20th week.

Virginia, 25th week.

D.C.

More liberal than

All of these are more liberal.

So, I mean, you go through that list and you say, wow, Europe had much more conservative rules on abortion than America had.

And they all came out and spoke against us.

Even though this country will still have laws far more liberal, you'll just have to move a little bit for them.

And like that is, I can understand people are like, well, some women don't have the money to do that.

Well, there's plenty of these charities that are going to step up and pay for it.

I mean, the companies are doing it if you work at a lot of these companies, but there's absolutely tons of charitable organizations that will do it.

And you can get this stuff mailed to you, you know, from India,

pharmacies in India, very cheaply.

It's, you know, it's sad.

I mean, I think that's a tragedy, but like to act as if this is some major change in our country, it really, it isn't if you want to get an abortion.

It's a great step for people on the pro-life cause because now it at least allows us to have the argument.

Before, they acted as if this was some constitutional right you couldn't argue with, which was nonsense.

At least that's out of the way.

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Uh, Joey Chestnut at the hot dog eating contest at Nathan's again yesterday for the 4th of July, which they do every year, and he wins it every year.

Well, he's won 15 out of the last 16.

Remember, there was like a rivalry at some point, he just put it

away, yeah.

I mean, it's completely not a rivalry anymore.

He wins by you know, 15, 20 hot dogs every year.

The guy's a world-class eater, he just is.

Oh, yeah, And so he got attacked during the competition yesterday.

I think we have the

video.

Check this out.

That guy comes up to him and either hits him or bumps into him somehow.

And then Chestnut just takes him in a headlock and throws him to the ground and starts eating again.

What did the sign say that he was holding up?

Do you know?

It was something about how animals are treated at some

plant.

It was, you know, some environmental thing.

So he just ignored it and went back to eating.

And he won the competition, put down 63 hot dogs.

That's amazing.

I think it messed him up a little bit because last year it was 70, I think 76 hot dogs he ate during the competition.

So he didn't quite get there, but he still won by

a lot.

A lot.

Like 16.

I think he won by 16 hot dogs.

There are those stories of like parents whose kid is trapped under a car and they lift up

the car to save the kid.

That is less fascinating to me than how you can eat 63 hot dogs in 20 minutes.

Or 10 minutes, whatever it is.

I think it's 10.

Yeah.

How I can't even comprehend.

And it's so gross what he does.

I can't watch it.

Oof.

I can't watch.

There's something about a wet roll that I don't know.

Yeah, I don't like it.

No.

No.

I don't know why.

It's the texture.

It's the texture.

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It's not good.

It's a texture thing.

It's not good at all.

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Well, Gavin Newsom apparently preparing himself to run for president of the United States.

He's, of course, governor of California right now.

And it looks like he's got some ambition to maybe be the president.

You know, and

up until this point, uh, we asked many times, like, who do they have?

Their bench is so bad.

They've got nobody.

What are they?

Going back to Hillary, Al Gore,

Richard Gephardt.

Maybe Richard Gephardt can be their nominee.

Still?

Still Richard Gephardt.

Still Richard Gephardt.

Probably their best guy on their bench.

But, you know, if you're not going to run the president, the incumbent, if he's not going to run,

Kamala Harris is not really appetizing to Democrats, I don't think, but Gavin Newsom may be.

It might be.

He might be the one that they turn to.

Anyway, he's starting to run ads in other states, including Florida.

Here's what he ran in Florida.

It's Independence Day, so let's talk about what's going on in America.

Freedom, it's under attack in your state.

Republican leaders, they're banning books, making it harder to vote, restricting speech in classrooms, even criminalizing women and doctors.

Criminalizing women

join us in California, where we still believe in freedom, freedom of speech, freedom to choose, freedom from hate, and the freedom to love.

Don't let them take your freedom.

Paid for by Newsom.

I can't take it.

This is fascinating though.

I can't take it.

As a tactic.

Now, Gavin Newsom is terrible.

Yeah.

He's been a terrible governor for the state of California and has done an awful job there.

And what's fascinating about it is he, you know, this is a,

he's not good at really, I don't think he's good at anything.

I guess he's good at, you know, sleeping with his friends' wives.

Other than that, I don't know what he's good at.

I mean, he's famously disobeying his own orders during a pandemic.

Yeah, he's good at that.

He is good at that.

Yeah, he's good at that.

He's good at that.

Good at getting some good restaurant reservations when no one else is allowed to have them.

But he's able to.

He's banning books.

What books did they ban in Florida?

They didn't ban any books.

They made it so that you couldn't discuss

alternative sex or any sex or any sex for that matter.

To first graders.

In first grade, in first grade through third, I think it was.

Yeah, kindergarten through third, I think it was.

Jeez, come on.

I mean, it's so ridiculous.

Banning books, restricting speech, making it harder to vote, really.

No, they're not.

Let's go to Delaware and find out how hard it is to vote where they don't even have early voting.

They don't even have it.

You can vote on one day.

One.

So.

So ridiculous.

And then criminalizing women and doctors.

Nobody is talking about criminalizing women.

No one.

Well, wait a minute.

I am talking about it.

I am talking about it, Pat.

I'm going to be honest with you.

I am talking about criminalizing women.

When women commit crimes, they're criminals.

What do you mean, criminalized?

They're not criminalized because they're women.

They're criminalized because they commit crimes.

That's supposedly an abortion.

He's trying to refer to abortion.

And as you point out, Pat, there's really, there was a big article in the New York Times this weekend about the four people who are pushing for

locking away women who want to have abortions.

Are there four?

I don't know.

That's what they claim.

That seems like too many.

Look, you know,

I guess, and it's true.

It's been like, because Roe versus Wade was this big barrier, right?

This big, this big thousand-foot wall that essentially, well, we could have these conversations about the nuances of abortion policy.

You weren't able to implement any of it.

So it was kind of a non-starter.

Now that wall is gone.

And so now the pro-life movement, which has always had many, many shades, people who were very, very restrictive, some people who were just like, hey, we need to limit it at 15 weeks, whatever, like the pro-life movement has always encompassed a really wide variety of people and opinions on that side of the argument.

Well, you're going to see some, I think, separation there.

They're going to see some people who are really restrictive and some people who

think that's going too far.

And that's going to have to shake itself out in the movement.

It's why you have different states and different laws.

Again, I don't think that's the, this particular issue is a good application of our federalism and our

tradition of federalism in that I think protecting life is more important than that.

And I do believe it should be.

I believe I support and would support and think Republicans should pursue a constitutional amendment outlawing abortion.

I mean, they're not going to get it through, but

that doesn't make difference to me.

Should be proposed every single year, Every single year, keep proposing it until somebody does something about it.

But that being said,

you know, you have

a situation here where someone like Gavin Newsom is going to try to

present this information like

it's some terrible thing that's going on in Florida when half of his residents move there.

Yeah.

You know, like

the state is emptied out to go to Florida and Texas and other places.

Last year alone, they lost a net 367,000 people

to Florida, to Idaho,

to Texas.

And the person who should be most excited about that is Gavin Newsom because those people weren't there to vote against him in his recall.

Right.

Right?

Like if those people had stayed, he might not be in office.

Yeah.

So, and it's fascinating what has happened with Gavin Newsom because of the recall, which is a typical dumb tactic by the media.

And a lot of people are falling for it, which is like, basically, like

they are saying Gavin Newsom's strong.

He won this, his recall election easily.

Is it all that impressive, guys, that a Democrat in California could survive a recall by what is essentially eight percentage points?

I think it was, I think he won 58, 42, if I'm remembering right.

It was somewhere around there.

And they're like, well, I won by 16 points.

Yeah, but if eight, there's only two ways to go.

So if 8% of the people changed their mind, it would have been tied or, you know, it would have maybe tipped over to the recall side.

Now, we know the dynamics of that election and that, like, Larry Elder is a guy that we like, and he's a good conservative, not exactly the flavor of Republican that would necessarily win a statewide election easily.

Arnold Schwarzenegger is, a guy who's essentially a Democrat.

Right.

And look, I think those guys suck.

Yeah.

No, I think Arnold Schwarzenegger sucks, but he still, like, that's the type of candidate that may have been able to win there.

Well, when he says, screw your freedom.

Yeah.

That sucks.

That's Gavin Newsome.

That's the guy who sucks.

Yeah, that guy sucks.

But like,

is it all that impressive?

No.

Like, you shouldn't, the fact that they were able to come up with

the amount of energy against Gavin Newsom to get the recall done in the first place.

It's only the second time in recent history it's happened.

Then you have a situation where he was pretty amazing to start with.

Then he was pushed to the brink by Larry Elder, who, again, is a guy I like, but is a talk show host.

Right.

And

has never served in

elected office and is also very conservative, something that I think would be a real great thing for California, but the California voter typically does not agree with.

And remember, just a few weeks before this election, it looked as if Larry Elder really had a chance to win.

Like it was very close.

Polls were showing it only a couple points.

Now, he extended that lead by a couple points.

He did what he had to do in a bad situation.

You can give him that.

But like, it's not like this was some great achievement here.

No.

Yeah, he won in California, a state that had already voted for him.

He was able to hold on to the election and not get removed from office.

It's like saying, like, ah, Donald Trump survived that

impeachment vote.

That's a great, you know, like, that shows he's super strong.

Well, I mean, it shows he did what he had to do against the impeachment vote, but like, none of the media was saying, oh, this shows the strength of Donald Trump.

Like, that's not what happens.

And what's great in California is they have the freedom to pay $7 a gallon for gasoline

and about a million dollars for a thousand square feet of home space.

You know, I've got a 1,200 square foot home and I have the freedom to pay $1.5 million for that.

I mean, it's outrageous what's happening in California.

You can't afford to live there.

If you're any kind of, if you have any sort of normal salary, you're making $50,000 or $60,000.

There's there's no way you can buy a home in california yeah you can maybe get a shack you could maybe rent a shed uh but you're not gonna you're not gonna buy a home when you're making fifty thousand dollars in california no

that's not uh i mean i remember there was a time i don't remember uh this is a while ago but it was if you were making the minimum salary as a player for the san francisco giants you couldn't afford the average home i remember that and i don't mean san francisco and san Francisco.

Yeah, too expensive.

Too expensive to afford the, you would not qualify for

a mortgage.

Wasn't it a $700,000 or $800,000 salary they were talking about?

Yeah.

Yeah, maybe at the time it was $600,000, something like that for a minimum.

It's incredible.

And we should also point out that Gavin Newsom, when he was mayor of San Francisco, I reference it briefly here, but it's important to remember how crazy this was.

He slept with like his best friend's wife.

Oh, that's right.

It wasn't like just some

affair.

It was like like his best friend's wife, who he hired under him as a staffer.

That's right.

And then slept with the staffer.

He's a douchebag.

Oh, he's a terrible human being

in so many ways.

And this is probably the smallest of them.

Who am I to judge?

I'm just saying he's going to burn in the fires of hell.

Right.

Yeah, you're not judging.

I'm not judging.

You're just saying one little thing about it.

It's just one thing.

He's going to burn in the fires of hell.

Exactly.

But like.

What happened to the Me Too movement here?

Yeah.

You know, she has come out and said, well, it's not really me too.

I was 33 years old.

I knew what I was doing.

And like, that's an acceptable thing for a Republican to say, right?

Like, a Republican, the Republican side of the argument is, you know, women actually have agency and can make decisions of their own.

Yeah, but Democrats have that power dynamic thing.

Yeah.

That's what they say.

Yeah.

They say, like, when, you know, a celebrity sleeps with some underling,

they say it can't be consensual because

there's a power power dynamic there.

I remember they said that with Louis C.K.

when he had his situation going on.

Oh, he was so powerful.

You couldn't

go against his will.

Right.

You couldn't.

This was their argument.

Like, there was some comedian that came out and said, like, you know, his thing was, I don't want to get into the details here, but his thing was basically pleasuring himself while winning.

Yeah.

Again, I think that's a good idea.

And I think he asked for permission.

And he asked for permission, and they said yes.

They didn't leave.

They said, oh, yeah, sure.

Which they could have left.

Which they could have left.

Except for the power dynamic.

Right.

So they said yes, and they sat there and endured the spectacle.

Yeah.

And the reason why it was a Me Too violation was because

he was a powerful comedian and I guess would control their comedy careers if they didn't say yes, which is complete nonsense.

And wasn't one of them on the phone?

There was one of those cases.

It was on the phone.

There's one of those cases.

Hang up.

Yes.

Where

the Me Too complaint against Louis K was that he was on the phone with her with a woman and she believed that he was touching himself while they were on the phone.

He didn't say he was or

like request.

Like, I don't know.

Hey, do you mind if you're not?

I don't know.

I don't know how to explain this.

I don't think he's

got permission on that one.

No, he, if he was doing it, which we don't know if he was, and she didn't know, but she sees, I guess it sounded like he was.

Again, I don't want to think about the details.

The point being here that their entire complaint for eradicating this guy's career was the power dynamic yeah okay now gavin newsom who is the mayor of san francisco he takes a direct staffer and sleeps with her which also happens to be the her best friend's wife was it's his best friend's wife excuse me kimberly gilfoyle was he married to her at the time no this was

me you know i don't remember i think he was married at the time too i don't remember i don't i I don't remember.

Because he was at one point married to Fox, well, former Fox anchor, Kimberly Guilfoyle.

Okay.

Which is, again, strange.

People tell me that he's a very good-looking man.

Yeah.

And, you know, he looks to me like American Psycho.

And

I guess he was a good-looking guy in that movie.

He did murder a bunch of people, too.

But part of the charm.

What, are you perfect?

Are you perfect, Stu?

You know, I'm not.

I've made myself search mistake.

Okay.

Well, then.

Now, none of them happened to be putting tarps down in my apartment and brutally slaughtering people while listening to Huey Lewis in the news.

Really?

You haven't done that?

That wasn't my particular mistake, but we all have our struggles.

That's right.

Exactly what I'm saying.

That's exactly what I'm saying.

And Gavin Newsom has his that may or may not be the same as the character in American Psycho.

We don't know.

We don't know.

We're not with him at all times.

I wouldn't have predicted he'd sleep with his best friend's wife.

I wouldn't either.

I would not either.

I would now.

I certainly wouldn't bring my wife around him now.

Right.

But back then, it would be probably surprising.

Probably was surprising to his best friend, who's, by the way, I don't know if I've mentioned he slept with his best friend's wife and who is a direct staffer of his.

But we should overlook that.

Yeah.

Because of the great job he did on COVID, question mark.

Well, look, it doesn't have anything to do with the presidency.

It doesn't mean he can't be a good president.

That's right.

It's his personal life.

All right.

Well, actually,

dining out in the middle of the COVID restrictions, not really his personal life.

No, no.

But the girlfriend thing, that's personal.

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At the time, Gavin Newsom slept with his best friend's wife.

He was, in fact, married to Kimberly Guilfoyle.

Yes.

Although it does seem like they were separated

when it happened?

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

So they were separate when it happened, but I think the affair was happening before.

No, I think the affair was happening before they were separated.

So

I just think

it was the separation.

Possibly.

Possibly.

Possibly.

And now she's with Donald Trump Jr.

Is that right?

Is that weird?

I mean, from one extreme to the other.

Yeah.

I mean,

as far as ideological, you know, significant others.

She seems to be, she was not like one of their straight news people, right?

She seems to be conservative.

Very conservative.

And like, you know, look, you can overcome a certain amount of political difference in a marriage, but it's, that's

pushing it.

Not that much.

Yeah.

No.

It'd be really tough.

Unless you just, I don't know.

If you don't talk about it.

Yeah.

Because otherwise, you'd be at odds all the time, wouldn't you?

Especially in this environment when, you know, so many things are coming up, and that's what people talk about around the dinner table.

You certainly talk about it when you gather on the 4th of July.

I talked about those kinds of things yesterday.

That would make me crazy.

Yeah.

My wife was super liberal.

And I've been seeing, you know, friends and relatives and everybody, you know, I have obviously friends and relatives that are very left-wing, not so appreciative of the Roe versus Wade situation, maybe as I was.

And you see them getting in brawls, man.

And I just stay out of it.

Like, I don't,

I do this for a living.

Last thing I want to come home and like post like

a post on Facebook.

I just don't feel like it.

I understand why people get into that stuff.

And I do, though, at some point, you have to recognize the

just

lack of ability that you're going to have in changing someone's mind.

And that's crazy, right?

Like, some people are just nuts and they just, they're, they're going, and it might not be, they might be completely sane in every other aspect of their life and wonderful people but they have this thing that they're hung up on and they're never going to listen to your opinion and you have to be able to leave that behind to maintain a relationship with a loved one if they're truly a loved one right if you really love your brother your sister your cousin your aunt your uncle your friends you know you you figure out a way to say okay they're nuts on that and you throw up your hands and you you just move on with your life you their support of abortion or opposition to abortion is not going to change the actual situation as it relates to abortion.

It's just, I think it's hard for people to let go of because if you believe it's life, it's like, gosh, man, this is really important.

How can you not see this as life?

It's like that Louis C.K.

routine about abortion

that we played last week.

Yeah.

If you really believe it's life, what are you going to say?

Well, okay, never mind.

Go ahead and kill a baby.

I always think the inconstant, the really truly inconsistent position is the one where like, yeah, at four months, eight days, three hours and nine seconds, it's not a baby, but ten seconds it is.

Then, like, I feel like that middle ground is actually the more insane position when it comes to

abortion, isn't it?

Yeah.

It's where everybody is, or most people.

But, like, the middle ground is the one that seems very strange to me.

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Well, that's the fun of it.

That's the fun, I suppose.

All right.

We were talking about the situation with the overturning of Roe v.

Wade and how that's just really affecting our our country right now.

And it is such a, it's probably, to me, it's the most contentious issue in America since slavery, probably.

Would you think that's accurate?

I can't think of a more contentious.

That's a good question.

Is it the most?

It's probably

up there.

I mean, you think of like guns, but I don't think.

I mean, you look at the statistics on gun polling.

It's not really all that, it's not nearly as divided as you'd think.

Yeah, I think that's probably a good, good one.

It's so contentious.

Vice President Kamala Harris just likened the end of Roe v.

Wade to slavery by saying that the Supreme Court's ruling was an example of the United States government trying to claim ownership over human bodies.

Hmm.

Okay.

That's fascinating.

Isn't it?

I mean, it's similar to the Emancipation Proclamation.

Yes.

If that's what she's going for.

Because I do think there are real parallels here.

Don't think she was going for that exactly.

No, I don't think that's what she was going for.

But that is, I think, a really realistic parallel.

It's the type of thing that a society looks back at in horror and says, how did we allow this to happen?

63 million,

and by the way, it's going to go up by millions and millions and millions from that number, but 63 million babies lost.

How can we possibly have allowed this?

Future generations will not look favorably on us for allowing that for so long.

Just like we look back at slavery as a horror show.

We all look back at it as terrible.

And there were people, Democrats especially, very pissed off about that ruling as well.

And argued about it for a very long time.

You know,

this, first of all, shows the real central failure of Roe and Casey because both of them

basically bragged about their power to end the debate.

It's a contentious issue.

We will provide the solution and therefore it won't be contentious anymore.

That was essentially the thesis of both Roe and Casey.

Didn't really work.

No.

It failed miserably.

Which is one of the things that even

Ruth Bader Ginsburg talked about is it was just bad law.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was bad law.

Like even now, if she was alive to vote on it, you know she would have vote.

voted to uphold Roe.

It was very reliable.

But still,

she did not think that was good law.

No one does.

I mean, anybody in that field, like, it's a different thing.

You know, there's this idea that the left, well, they see the Constitution, they see the Supreme Court, what they see rights are things that they want, right?

Like, we've talked about the right to internet, right?

There's no right to internet.

What are you talking about?

There's no right to internet.

Where was that right at any point before 1990, right?

Like,

oh, that right didn't exist.

If you created it after 1990, fine, but you have to actually put it in the Constitution, right?

You don't just, it doesn't just magically appear.

It could happen, by the way.

It's not in the Constitution, but you could put it in the Constitution with the 28th Amendment.

But they won't go through that process because they know it wouldn't never happen.

And you know what?

It'll never happen.

Honestly, I bet you it's not incomprehensible.

It could happen if people wanted it to.

I would guess the polling on something like that would not even be bad.

I bet you they could get positive polling on that question.

Especially on the parameters.

Yeah, should the internet be a constitutional amendment to

make internet available to everybody, I bet would be something that people would like because that's what's how people, most people think.

Is it something that I want?

Is it great?

Is it wonderful?

Do I like it?

Yes.

If yes, then constitution.

Right.

Right.

Then it's my right.

Healthcare, I really like it.

I really want it.

It's my right.

Therefore, I shall have it.

It's in the Constitution, I swear.

And, of course, we've had people argue for a constitutional right, essentially, to high-speed internet.

We've had that in the past.

My name is Rhonda Locklear.

I'm from Pembroke.

How do you have access to the past?

And I'm a member of the Lumbee Tribe of North Carolina.

Sure, yes.

I have two children,

and like any mother, I want the best for my boys.

Of course, you want the base for your boys.

Jacob, my oldest

is a transferring student

to UNC Pembroke.

Okay.

And Isaac is in the eighth grade at Pembroke Middle School.

Wow.

All right.

Thank you for that.

Like most families

across the state who either don't have access to high-speed internet

or who can't afford it.

Sure.

We were stuck with dial-up service in our home

until two months ago.

Oh my goodness.

Now this is how long ago?

How old are you?

Nine years and two months ago.

No, it was actually

13 years

and two months ago.

I mean, we've played this clip so many times.

How do you still have it in your machine?

This is incredible that you have access to this at a finger, at the press of a button.

Yes, Because it's so good.

And

this is a clip from the Lumbee Tribe.

Was it North Carolina, if I'm remembering right?

She's testifying before somebody.

Like any Moother.

Like any Moother.

And she thinks it's the legislature in North Carolina.

She really wants access to internet back.

Well, she has it, and she got it two months ago.

But she.

Well, but she didn't have it.

Well, she had dial-up before that.

So she had internet the whole time.

But she didn't have high speed until two months ago.

Yes.

She's very upset about this and wants the government to pay for her energy.

Exactly.

I feel that this has put my family,

my sons in particular,

at a severe disadvantage.

Well, it has.

It has.

Isaac depends on the internet

to complete his assignments for school.

Right, yeah.

He often uses the internet to work on reports or projects

or often at times to just do research.

Like, you know, on porn.

Right.

I watched him struggle

with the dial-up service and observed him get frustrated

because he could not move around on the web like he likes.

Lack, he likes.

You hate to see that.

He could not move around on the web like he likes.

Like he likes.

See, that's Constitution.

Yeah.

That means it's in the Constitution.

If you want something like that,

and you want it really bad

and you can't afford it, well, of course, it's in the Constitution that you can have it.

And needed to do.

Seemingly easy assignments took him hours to complete.

Oh, no.

How stupid is this kid?

No, I don't think that's what she's saying.

I think she's saying the internet is bad.

So you can't do that.

It's very disheartening to watch.

Isaac got very upset,

discouraged, and frustrated

because he could not do what he needed to do.

As a mother,

it breaks my heart and causes me to feel

that I have failed him

in some way.

Yeah.

Until two months ago, she had

failed him

miserably.

Yeah.

Not by a little bit, but miserably failed him.

Yes.

Now, to be clear, they had internet.

Yeah.

At this time.

It was a slower internet than they preferred.

And now they have the faster internet.

Yeah.

But

she's arguing on behalf for others to get it, I think.

And by the way,

they got it.

Of course it worked.

They got $20 million in federal money

to get high-speed internet for

the tribe like they like.

Yeah, which is fascinating.

And so I do.

Could you come up with a constitutional amendment for internet access?

I bet you could.

You probably could.

I bet you could.

Now, that constitutional amendment will not mean that you get to keep your accounts.

No.

Obviously, they could still ban you from.

That might be why the Democrats would oppose it.

If it was a constitutional right for you to access the internet, they might oppose it.

But again, the Constitution can be amended.

It's okay.

You can try to do it.

We should try to do it more often.

Most of them would fail, and they should fail.

And it is hard.

Yep.

Because it's supposed to to be hard.

It is supposed to be a difficult process because the founders knew that they'd done a pretty good job, I think.

And they didn't want people just willy-nilly changing the Constitution on a whim.

It had to be something that people agreed on, had to be something that you were passionate about, be logical.

And enough states decided that

this new amendment was the right thing to do that they got it passed through.

And it's not easy.

The story of of the 27th Amendment is one of my favorite stories of all time, which is it was an amendment that was around at the time of the founders.

And it's an amendment to basically limit congressional pay so they can't vote themselves pay raises.

Yeah.

If they vote for themselves, if they say, hey, Congress should make a million dollars a year, they have to go through an election before that kicks in.

So they can't vote themselves

a huge increase.

Right.

They have to be at least in front of the voters to vote them out if they get angry about that pay raise.

So it was around at the time of the founders.

It kind of got halfway through the process of ratification and then sort of died on the vine.

But it had no expiration date and sort of just sat around.

And some college student, I think it was in Texas,

started looking around and noticed it and had to write his thesis and wrote some like thesis about, hey, like there's this constitutional amendment.

This would be cool to do, started like trying to revive it, got it.

all the way to these states.

They finished the ratification process and it became an amendment in the 1990s.

Incredible.

I mean, it's a fascinating story of just some guy who was doing some research and actually amended the Constitution

as a result of it.

Really amazing.

Really cool.

But like, it can happen.

You know,

like the left obviously just wants to get rid of guns and they obviously want to raise money off of this.

They want power.

They want all these things to happen.

We know their motivations are not pure, but if their motivations really were to get rid of automatic weapons, which they seem to think are on every street corner,

they could go for a constitutional amendment just for that.

No automatic weapons, basically, in the United States.

Now,

this country is treating the Second Amendment as if it prohibits the automatic weapons, which, by the way, it does not.

You can, first of all, can get an automatic weapon in this country.

It's just very difficult to do so.

Secondarily, there's a lot of constitutional

gymnastics that went into allowing those weapons to be banned the way they are in the first place.

Right.

But in theory, you could go and get that done.

I mean, certainly it would be supported by the American people.

I mean, look, a lot of people in this audience would disagree with it.

But like, what's the polling on no automatic weapons?

90%?

And it probably is a real 90% with automatic weapons, unlike their universal background check polling.

And so maybe

they can try that.

Try it.

Be honest about your motivations.

Their motivations clearly are to get rid of weapons overall.

And when you reverse-engineer their goals, you can see how they keep getting to the way they cover these crimes.

They don't care about inner city crime, they don't care, they don't care about gun violence.

That's why they never talk about it.

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It's Pat and Stufer Glenn.

Joe Biden's approval ratings continue to plummet.

Yeah, we've started a new segment on Studos America called

Today, the president hit a new low in his approval approval rating.

That's not the official title, but I feel like I do this segment every week.

Yeah.

And it's pretty much true.

Monmouth poll out now.

36% approval rating for Joe Biden.

Oh, wow.

58% disapproval.

This is down from

so he went 38 to 36 in the last month.

He started up in the mid-50s back in the day and has dropped pretty much every month consistently since he got into office.

He now has the lowest average approval rating, according to 538, of any president ever measured at this point in his presidency.

Listen to this right track, wrong track for you.

January 2021 comes in, comes into office,

42% right direction.

Okay.

I mean, you know, we're still kind of low.

We tend to be a little frustrated about things.

January 2021, a lot was going on in that month.

Yeah.

We're in the COVID situation.

Yeah.

Okay.

You know, it's around the mid-40s and into April.

And then June 2021 is 37%,

ticks up to 38%, down to 29% in September, right around 30% in December, 24% in January 2022, 24% March 2022, May 2022, 18%.

June 2022,

10.

10%.

10% right track.

88% wrong track.

I've never seen numbers that bad.

And 2% saying, I don't know.

Yeah, 2% say,

I don't know.

1% says, I don't know.

1% says, it depends

on

what.

I don't know.

It depends.

It always depends, right?

I mean, it depends on, it's got to depend on something.

But 1%, 10%.

10% right track.

And only 74% of Democrats approve of this president's performance.

That might be an even more stunning number.

I bet people noticed that on their July 4th gatherings because it's not, you know, a lot of Democrats are expressing their disapproval for the president and saying stuff like, you know, it seems like he's not quite all there.

You know, they're noticing that cognitive area, but it's policy as well.

This is a disaster.

This is the Glenn Back program.