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Today, we had a lot to talk about, honestly.

We had the

shootings over the weekend, and I don't necessarily just mean the mass shooting at the July 4th parade, which was obviously terrible, but also the much higher numbers that actually happened right down the street in in Chicago that no one is reporting on.

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Again, yesterday, just more senseless killing.

It's just so hard to process this.

And really, you can't.

You just can't understand it why this happens.

People gather their families together and show up at six or seven in the morning with their lawn chairs and just try to enjoy a Fourth of July parade, and then somebody starts shooting at them from a rooftop.

I don't understand it.

Apparently, this guy was known to law enforcement, which we've heard multiple times with these shootings lately.

If they're known and nothing happens, I don't, what kind of laws laws are we going to enact that stop this?

Other than reversing our entire system of justice, right?

Like we could go with the Chinese system where we arrest people when they look suspicious.

And I will say that.

You could do the future crime thing.

Yeah, if you could do it.

If we had that report.

You could do that.

I mean, I will say if we had that law implemented and I saw this guy, I would have arrested him because he looks as if he was about to wear a shirt that says, I'm a future mass shooter.

You look at a picture of this guy.

he looks the part.

But that's not how our society operates.

You can't just arrest somebody if they look the part?

Yeah.

No, that's not how this works, pal.

Yeah.

Now, I don't know if that's been challenged in the Supreme Court.

We'll have to look into that.

I don't know.

But I will say that this system of justice is better than the Chinese one.

That is your other option, though.

You can go more and more toward that direction.

You can start arresting people when they write scary things online or when they purchase a firearm.

You can prevent them from purchasing a firearm.

We can move toward that Chinese system if we wish.

Now, we're going to have to amend the Constitution a bunch of times to get there.

So, you know, it's a lot of heavy lifting for the left.

But that seems to be what they want here.

They seem to be able to want to charge people with crimes before they commit them.

And unfortunately, that's not how this works.

Now, we may find out, you said they were known to police.

That covers a wide range of things.

Right?

Like, it could mean that this person you know bought the gun illegally because they were so well known to police they were barred from buying one we we may find that out at some point it's hard i will say over the since you valdi in particularly uh in particularly i i have i have really

i've really stopped jumping on the initial details sort of banner because they're wrong so often wrong so often and you know this is something that people have complained about for a long time.

The media is terrible.

Oftentimes, especially when the police have issues, and again, I'm a big supporter of the police.

I think generally speaking, they do a very good job, but occasionally they don't do a great job.

And when that happens, they tend to leak details to the media that backs up some other narrative that makes them look a little bit better.

Euvalde being a really prime example of that.

As they were the heroes of the universe the day after that.

And then not so much later on.

Not so much.

The more we learned, the less hero of the universe they seemed.

Yeah, it really did turn around quickly.

They almost seemed like the opposite of the heroes.

It did turn around quickly.

Yeah, it did.

But I found myself fascinated watching the coverage of this because every newspaper in America, every big news website was talking about this.

And at some level, it's understandable, right?

Like, as you mentioned, it's a terrible tragedy.

Here you are.

Everybody in this audience probably went out to a 4th of July event in the most innocent way and wanted to just have a nice time with their family

for a place like this to have that disturbed with gunfire from the rooftop of a building from some psychopath.

It's obviously incredibly notable, right?

It is notable and tragic and awful.

And especially because so many people were going through that same sort of event this weekend, we should note that it didn't seem to happen anywhere else.

This is one event, and it was really, really bad.

But the same time that they're talking about six shot or six dead and 30 mid-30s, I believe were the injury numbers incredible unspeakable tragedy

at the same time in Chicago

nine people were shot and killed and 57 shot overall

this weekend in Chicago and it happens the strictest gun laws in the country and it happens in both places every single weekend yeah every weekend this story comes out that nine dead eight dead twelve dead six dead seven seven dead every weekend, and they don't care about it at all.

They never mention it.

They never mention it.

The only time they ever mention it is because you might bring it up and say, wait, what about all this violence in Chicago?

So that they can call you a racist.

Right.

Now, who's the racist here, Pat?

If you seem to care only about the white people at the parade being shot and not about the black and Hispanic people in Chicago that get shot every weekend, who's the racist here?

I know.

I don't think it's us.

No, it is not.

I actually do care about the people who get shot.

Which is why we bring it up.

We'd rather it not happen all the time in Chicago.

Exactly that way.

Or anywhere else for that matter.

Yes.

You know, there's a lot of cities where they suffer this way every week and every weekend.

Baltimore, Philadelphia, New Orleans, Detroit.

All of these cities are suffering with this same malady that Chicago does to one degree or another.

And they don't care about any of it.

They just keep doing the same Democrat policies.

They just keep restricting guns.

And it doesn't help at all.

If it doesn't help in these areas where we see them employed, how is it going to help nationwide?

It's so ridiculous.

They're going after hundreds of millions of guns that are legally owned by law-abiding citizens, trying to micromanage their use

instead of going after, you know,

a much bigger problem.

And I think one of the issues here is

the reason why we talk about Chicago and Baltimore and these other big cities is not just because Democrats run them into the ground constantly, although admittedly, that's part of it.

Part of it is to highlight how bad these policies are and how well they work in practice, which is terrible.

But it's not just that.

It's also that it's a much more sensible area to focus on.

It's really hard to stop one 22 year old to get from getting one gun and going on a rooftop and firing at unarmed people in a crowd.

Like it's really hard to stop that.

Yeah.

And the only way you stop it is because thankfully most people don't want to do it.

Right.

You know, that's it's just the truth.

And they, I mean, he's known to law enforcement.

Yep.

And yet he still got away with doing that.

Right.

Right.

In a state where they have very restrictive gun laws

and in an area that has very restrictive gun laws.

And it's just really, really hard.

Now, that doesn't mean you don't try to stop it.

Obviously, we've talked about the mental health aspects.

Stopping people with

criminal histories and mental health

factors from getting firearms is part of this focus that the left and the right kind of agree on, right?

Like we should stop those people from getting guns.

But like...

It's really difficult to do that.

And it's one of those things where you're talking about

an amount of people, despite how much coverage it gets, that die every year from these crimes.

It's almost impossible in a country of 330 million people to try to

eliminate that entirely.

And to make any difference on that number, you'd have to eliminate it entirely, right?

Like it's not like a crime where you shave, if you if you shave 20% off the amount of people who die in mass shootings every year, that would be great.

And we want to do that, but it would make no difference in the gun violence total that we're talking about all the time.

The way you can make a difference on those numbers are things like suicides, right?

Preventing suicides

is a really big pool of people who die from gun violence.

And it's much easier to try to do something about that.

Crime in inner cities is another one.

That's where almost all this stuff happens, almost all of of it.

Yet it gets almost none of the coverage.

And

how do you explain that?

If it was the left explaining it, I can guarantee you what they would say.

They would say it's racism.

You only care about the white victims.

You don't care about the black victims.

That's what they would say.

That's what they say about missing kids all the time, right?

Whenever there's a good-looking college girl that goes missing, man, that gets coverage from all the cable news channels.

But if it's an inner city black male, they never get any coverage.

And, you know, they say that all the time.

That would be the explanation for sure if this was the other way around.

If the left was the one

handling this, they would be critical of the media and say, you don't care about the black victims.

You only care about the white victims in the nice little suburbs who are going to their July 4th events.

That's what you care about because of the color of their skin.

Now,

I don't think that that's the reality here.

I think there is something to do with that sort of crime of spectacle and this big flashy thing.

But the problem with this is the reason why a mass shooting gets a lot of coverage is also the reason why they keep occurring.

Because these psychopaths want this attention.

And so giving it to them constantly, and we have not mentioned this person's name, nor will we, giving them constant attention every time one of these things goes down.

Does not help the situation.

It makes it much worse.

And it doesn't help our overall problem with gun violence.

It literally does everything it shouldn't and none of the things it should.

And this is the way it happens every time, Pat.

And that's why we're not playing his diatribe.

You know, the little video he produced.

I don't want to give him that satisfaction and that publicity.

But he does have a rambling, weird video that he put out that kind of gave hints to what he might be planning to do here.

And then he went out and did it.

But I don't know how you stop it when you see, even if you see the video, even if law enforcement sees the video, can you go arrest the guy because of what he said?

He didn't clearly say, I'm going to go kill people at the 4th of July parade.

Maybe you could get him on a terroristic threat at that point, but that's not what he did.

So I don't know how you stop him even being known to law enforcement unless he's committed some sort of crime.

Right.

And really what you could do is try to, again, convert this country into one that does not have innocence until proven guilt.

That's what you can do.

You can move that line.

Now, red flag laws attempt to move that line, right?

That's what they are.

And perhaps if you have some future crimes.

They're future crimes.

And perhaps if you had, you know, like they're going to say, well, I don't know.

I don't remember off the top of my head the red flag law situation in Illinois.

And I don't know if, you know, we don't know the details of this anyway.

I mean, whether it was enacted or how it worked, we'll know, you know, within weeks, I'm sure.

But the bottom line is if you have someone who's off kilter and you report them, then maybe you could take their guns.

Was this, but like,

again,

for how long are you delaying the inevitable here?

If you haven't committed a crime, all you're doing is delaying it, which is good.

It's better than, than, you know, it's better than not delaying it.

But the trade-off here of getting rid of our system of justice to attempt these things, knowing that 99.5% of the people caught up in these red flag laws will not have done anything.

I mean, they're just going to be, you're going to be essentially punishing people for nothing in almost all cases.

That's how this works.

And the farther you go down that line, the farther you go down the reversal of the relationship between innocence and guilt, the closer you get to places like China.

And you can do it.

Lots of countries do it.

You can go live in one of them.

They're wonderful.

Flights are pretty expensive right now, but you can get there.

I wouldn't recommend it.

I have a friend who went overseas this past weekend, and they're still doing, it was an, the first leg of this flight was eight hours.

And then there was another five-hour and another three-hour, I think, after that.

It was, you know, they're going to like Africa for some, something that I'll never do.

And I was thinking to myself, oh my gosh, that sounds terrible.

And then I heard they have to wear a mask the whole time.

Oh, they're still masking on these international flights.

Really?

Can you imagine?

I can't.

I can't imagine.

So like 13 hours, 15 hours on a mask?

No, no.

They're not doing it.

By the way, an eight-hour layover someplace in an airport where they also have to be masked the whole time oh my god can you imagine no no i can't do it i can't no i can't do it i won't do it no i will

i mean i wouldn't do it

without the mask a massive price for that too oh my gosh i can't even imagine how congratulations like mount kilimanjaro or something and it's like geez that's probably an amazing experience to talk about when you come home.

And I got to say, I think most of the questions are going to be about the flights.

Yeah.

Not about the mountain.

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Something that happened that can't happen because it doesn't happen anywhere but here.

There was a mass shooting in Copenhagen,

which is not in this country.

I don't know if you're aware of that, but Copenhagen is not in the United States.

Not Copenhagen, Texas.

No, it's not.

Copenhagen, Denmark.

And

three people were killed.

multiple people shot and wounded at a mall in Copenhagen.

So

I think somebody's lying there because it doesn't happen in other countries.

It only happens here.

As it did again on the 4th of July, of course.

And there was another shooting, interestingly, but it involved police shooting a suspect.

Yeah, I just have to mention here on the Denmark thing because people will say, well, yeah, one shooting.

One.

How many have you had?

in

the United States?

264 this year alone.

Oh, and we have to get into that because that's really a frustrating part.

Oh, it is.

Because

I'm getting sidetracked, but like the Chicago shooting, right?

What they love to do is ignore the fact that nine were killed and 57 shot in Chicago, separate from the mass shooting that happened

in the suburbs.

They want to ignore that and only talk about the mass shooting.

But they get to have things both ways because then they will include multiple incidents from Chicago over the weekend and call them quote-unquote mass shootings and insert them into this number they keep building, which everybody who's looked at knows is ridiculous, but they keep doing it anyway because they, so they get the best part of both worlds.

They get to blame guns for the incident and build their mass shooting numbers while completely ignoring that their own cities and their own policies are the places all these things are occurring.

Yes.

It's fascinating.

And in the places with the strictest gun control in the country.

Yes.

Like Chicago.

Fascinating.

By the way,

6 million people in Denmark.

Okay.

There's 6 million.

We have 330 million.

So we have, what, 60 times almost as many people.

So in theory, if all else was equal, which it's not,

if all else were equal, you would expect to hear

about a shooting in Denmark approximately 1 60th.

of the amount of time.

So when you do this, and they do this all the time, they lean on things like, for example, New Zealand's per capita deaths from mass shootings are higher than ours because they've had like three or four really bad ones and two really bad ones.

That they have taken guns from their citizens.

They have not only did they ban them, they took them from those who had guns.

And the thing you're talking about is probably the after the Christchurch shooting, which was this really terrible one that happened a couple of years ago.

But they did the same thing after the previous mass shooting, which Christchurch was after, right?

They took away away tons of guns the first time, too.

Right.

So, you know, we went through all this.

If you go to

Suda's America on YouTube, we did a gun special.

We went through all the mass shooting numbers and showed all this data just to show that, like, because these things, I'll be honest, do feel like they happen a lot here, and it sucks.

It really does.

It feels, I mean, I talk to people who are big Second Amendment supporters.

and aren't talking about taking guns away, but still, just, gosh, I can't believe this is happening.

What do we do about it?

And that is a legitimate conversation.

We should do something, whatever we can, within the balance of the Constitution and our law and our traditions.

We should do something.

On the other hand, we do have to realize

you do not need to be terrified every time you go to a 4th of July parade.

Like just statistically,

you're still...

Think of how many people yesterday went to this parade.

This is

kind of a crazy.

You probably had 20 parades just in the Metroplex.

Right.

Oh, yeah, at least.

And nothing happened at any of them.

Nothing happened in any any of them, right?

You know, your chance, if you went to, let's say there's, I don't know, I'm throwing up.

I did this with schools because this is the real number for schools, but there's 150,000 schools in the United States.

150,000.

The fact that you can name three incidents from the past

10 years at schools from Sandy Hook to Parkland to Uvalde.

And obviously there have been other incidents in between, but they've, you know, much smaller scale.

Those were the huge three massive scale incidents over a decade with 150,000 schools.

It number one highlights how impossible it is to stop, right?

How do you stop three incidents over a decade in 150,000 schools where kids are going to these schools 180 days a year?

It could happen at any of these schools on any of these days.

So

finding and stopping an incident like that is really, really hard.

It's, you know, you can make it worse by some of the actions that it looks like the police did not take in Uvalde, but like to actually stop it is really difficult.

Sometimes they do and they do stop some of them.

But the same thing is with these Fourth of July parades.

Then think about the actual parade.

How many people went to that parade?

Probably 5,000, 10,000.

We do have, we have six people dead, which is horrible.

And I can't, it's hard to overstate how terrible it is.

But it's also important to put in perspective.

Even if you went to the parade, your chances of

being shot were very low.

And even if you got shot, it seems like about 80% of people survived.

So, I mean, like, it's important to put that stuff in perspective.

It doesn't make it any better for the families.

It doesn't make it any better.

It doesn't mean we shouldn't try to stop it.

But it is important to keep things in perspective and not live your life in constant terror, which is what the media seems to want you to do.

Yeah.

You know, like the chances of these things happening to you are much lower than you getting into a terrible car accident.

Like,

there are other things to worry about that are much more prominent.

I went like three steps off of where we were going there.

We were talking about the Copenhagen.

Have we settled on Copenhagen now?

Because that's what I want.

I'm staying on Copenhagen.

I'm not going to Copenhagen.

You can call it Copenhagen all you want in the mainstream media.

I'm not going there.

But

it's true that, like, yes, they have fewer events in Denmark.

than we do, but that's also partially just because they don't have a lot of people.

They also don't have a lot of racial strife in Denmark because they're all they're all the same race, yeah.

They're they're all white people who have lived there for 75 centuries, and honestly, like it's so cold at times.

You can understand why.

Like, people are just like, Look, I don't want to go.

I'm not even going outside, let alone shooting anybody.

I'm not doing it.

Exactly.

Yeah.

So there's a lot of aspects that

go into that.

There was another shooting.

And again, this is the same type of thing where the media tries to convince all black people that they should be terrified of police because they are out on the hunt for you all the time.

This is what police do.

They wake up in the morning, they have donuts.

This is the one thing we know about police officers.

They have to have donuts.

And after they have donuts, they walk around looking for black people to shoot in the streets for no particular reason.

This is the narrative we get from the media all the time.

This is what they do.

So there's a case in Akron,

and they had a

guy's name was

Jalen Walker.

And Jalen Walker was

going to be pulled over for a traffic stop.

And of course, the narrative is, to just give you the summary in case you don't know the story, and you wanted to read a media story.

Guy

was

unarmed, black man, running from police, was shot at about 60 times by police.

By police.

And

this should not happen over a traffic stop, Pat.

No, it shouldn't.

It should not happen over.

No, that's right.

No, No, it should not.

And it shouldn't.

I would agree.

In fact, you are the king of traffic stops.

You've been pulled over 15,000 times since you moved to Texas.

It's never happened to you.

Why?

Because you're white.

White.

That's the only reason.

I'm white.

Now, I assume you did all the things that Jalen Walker did in this particular story.

And you just, they just, at the end, said, oh, gosh.

Pat Gray, you're so silly.

I can't believe you just drove away from us like this.

So what happened was,

let me tell you, this sounds familiar to you in the way you deal with curious incidents when you get pulled over by a known speeder, Pat Gray.

Jalen Walker gets pulled over for a traffic stop.

Was he speeding?

I don't know if he was speeding, honestly, on that part of the story.

But he decides, he feels, apparently, for some reason, things might not go well.

Now, maybe he's guilty of a crime.

Yeah.

Maybe he's just terrified of police officers.

I don't know.

But he decides to

leave.

and not pull over and run from police in the car.

So he's driving away from police.

He eventually gets surrounded by police cars, pulls over again, and then leaves again, somehow escapes the situation.

And once again,

so far, this is really familiar.

I've done this

probably 15, 20 times, 15, 20 times, and never been shot at it.

Never been shot.

Amazing.

That white skin really gets you out of this.

And so he then escapes from cops.

While he's driving,

he fires his gun out the window.

Now, when

you are being chased by police and you fire a gun out the window,

you have escalated this beyond just running from the police.

You have now fired a weapon out the window.

Now, we, to give the disclaimers here, this is what we're told

from the police.

This is their justification, right?

So we should be skeptical over these things as people are, you know, should be treated with skepticism, as we saw in Uvalde, right?

Like at times, you have to make sure, sometimes they don't tell the truth.

However, in this particular case, there's no indication that they know the driver is black at this point.

And the officer says it while they're driving.

Okay, he just fired a gun out the window.

We have a shot fired.

This is before they've even had an interaction with him.

So it would be really hard to come up with a situation in which,

like, they don't even know he's black yet.

And they're planting this information before they even see him.

It's just, it would be too much for any reasonable conspiracy theory but i'll allow for the possibility anyway because you never know in these situations eventually he gets out of the car decides to run from police he gets out of the car on foot runs from police then turns around back toward police and they shoot him a bunch of times now for some reason the focus of this story is how many times they shot him once dead

does it really matter how many times you've been shot.

I know from watching many, many movies, Pat,

that you watch the movie and they shoot the bad guy and then they all start celebrating and hugging each other while the bad guy gets up slowly in the background.

When you use a firearm, like that's what you're trying to disable the person who may be trying to kill you.

And the police, after seeing this guy already fire a weapon seemingly at them, kind of had an indication he may be violent.

Right.

So when he turned to them, they fired him.

They hit him a bunch of times.

I mean, look, if they shot him and he was dead and then they walked up to him and shot him a thousand more times, there would be criticism to be put on the police officers, though it wouldn't change the outcome.

It wouldn't make it more tragic.

He was already dead.

Well, but then he was mega dead.

Then he was mega dead.

He was Mega Doppler dead.

Mega Doppler dead?

Yeah.

Wow.

That sounds bad.

And that's bad.

That's bad.

Yeah.

You don't want that.

But like,

there are times where math comes into play here.

And let me walk people through the math if they're not familiar with this.

Did they not find the gun on

when they shot him?

They did not.

But that's the argument from the lawyer.

He was unarmed.

At least that's what they're saying.

He was unarmed.

Well, an unarmed guy firing a weapon out the window, that doesn't compute to me.

Okay.

Here's the math of the situation, though.

This is advanced level calculus, Pat.

If you do X, Y, and X, and Y, Z often occurs.

If you run from police, if you fire weapons.

at police.

If instead of falling down on the ground and putting your hands behind your back, you turn back toward police during a chase.

Oftentimes, you will get shot.

The color of your skin is not material to that equation.

And be like, well, disproportionately.

Look at the actual numbers.

I'm not going to bother breaking them down for you.

That's a nonsensical argument that isn't true.

About, I mean, this is from criminologists, an African-American criminologist who went through the numbers and said, actually, it looks like white people are more likely to get shot of these incidents.

So

don't even bother with that nonsense.

But the bottom line is

you should not do those things.

The police may have acted improperly.

Maybe we will find out they didn't fire a weapon and they had some big conspiracy against this guy.

If that's true, obviously none of this applies.

But either way, you don't run from police.

You don't turn back toward them when they are asking you to get down on your knees.

You certainly do not fire weapons at them out of a speeding car.

Wasn't that a Chris Rock

sketch at one time?

I think you're right.

I think he talked about that.

I think you're right.

i'm not gonna use the blur you over he used yeah to recreate it oh but but yes i think you're right yeah you know you might look into that and listen to that for pretty good safety tips you know he was being funny but it was a good safety tip what he was trying to tell everybody um you know just

don't act like that don't run from police don't shoot at police and then chances are better that you're not going to get shot.

Yeah, you might not eliminate every single bad outcome because sometimes police do act terribly.

Sometimes they just act inappropriately and wrong, not based on race, but just

handle a situation terribly or poorly, or maybe they're corrupt, or maybe they're violent.

Who knows?

It does happen.

But you're going to eliminate 99.9% of the style you are if you just don't act like that.

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Gavin Newsom, apparently, preparing himself to run for president of the United States.

He's, of course, governor of California right now.

And it looks like he's got some ambition to maybe be be the president.

You know, and

up until this point,

we asked many times, like, who do they have?

Their bench is so bad.

They've got nobody.

What are they?

Going back to Hillary, Al Gore,

Richard Gephardt.

Maybe Richard Gephardt can be their nominee.

Still?

Still Richard Gephardt.

Still, still Richard Gephardt.

Probably their best guy on their bench.

But, you know, if you're not going to run the president, the incumbent, if he's not going to run,

Kamala Harris is not really appetizing to Democrats, I don't think.

But Gavin Newsom may be.

It might be.

He might be the one that they turn to.

Anyway, he's starting to run ads in other states, including Florida.

Here's what he ran in Florida.

It's Independence Day.

So let's talk about what's going on in America.

Freedom, it's under attack in your state.

Republican leaders, they're banning books, making it harder to vote, restricting speech in classrooms, even criminalizing women and doctors.

Criminalizing women

or join us in California, but we still believe in freedom.

Freedom of speech, freedom to choose, freedom from hate, and the freedom to love.

Don't let them take your freedom.

I can't take it.

This is fascinating.

I can't take it.

As a tactic, now Gavin Newsom is terrible.

Yeah.

He's been a terrible governor for the state of California and has done an awful job there.

And what's fascinating about it is he, you know, this is

he's not good at really, I don't think he's good at anything.

I guess he's good at, you know, sleeping with his friends' wives.

Other than that, I don't know what he's good at.

I mean, he's famously disobeying his own orders during a pandemic.

Oh, yeah, he's good at that.

He is good at that.

Yeah, he's good at that.

He's good at that.

Good at getting some good restaurant reservations when no one else is allowed to have them.

He's banning books what the what books did they ban in florida they didn't ban any books

they made it so that you couldn't discuss uh alternative sex or any sex or any sex for that matter to first graders in first grade in first grade through third i think it was yeah kindergarten through third i think it was geez come on i mean it's so ridiculous banning books restricting speech making it harder to vote really no they're not let's go to delaware and find out how hard it is to vote where they don't even have early voting.

They don't even have it.

You can vote on one day.

One.

So.

So ridiculous.

And then criminalizing women and doctors.

Nobody is talking about criminalizing women.

No one.

Well, wait a minute.

I am talking about it.

I am talking about it, Pat.

I'm going to be honest with you.

I am talking about criminalizing women.

When women commit crimes, they're criminals.

What do you mean criminalized?

They're not criminalized because they're women.

They're criminalized because they commit crimes.

That's supposedly an abortion.

He's trying to refer to abortion.

And as you point out, Pat,

there was a big article in the New York Times this weekend about the four people who are pushing for

locking away women who want to have abortions.

Are there four?

I don't know.

That's what they claim.

That seems like too many.

Look, you know,

I guess, and it's true.

It's been like, because Roe versus Wade was this big barrier, right?

This big, this big thousand-foot wall that essentially, well, we could have these conversations about the nuances of abortion policy, you weren't able to implement any of it.

So it was kind of a non-starter.

Now that wall is gone.

And so now the pro-life movement, which has always had many, many shades, people who were very, very restrictive, some people who were just like, hey, we need to limit it at 15 weeks, whatever, like the pro-life movement has always encompassed a really wide variety of people and opinions.

on that side of the argument.

Well, you're going to see some, I think, separation there.

They're going to see some people who are really restrictive and some people who

think that's going too far and that's going to have to shake itself out in the movement.

It's why you have different states and different laws.

Again, I don't think that's the, this particular issue is a good application of our federalism and our

tradition of federalism in that I think protecting life is more important than that.

And I do believe it should be.

I believe.

I support and would support and think Republicans should pursue a constitutional amendment outlawing abortion.

I mean, they're not going to get it through, but

that doesn't make difference to me.

Should be proposed every single year.

Every single year.

Keep proposing it until somebody does something about it.

But that being said,

you know, you have

a situation here where someone like Gavin Newsom is going to try to present this information like.

It's some terrible thing that's going on in Florida when half of his residents move there.

Yeah.

You know, like

the state is emptied out to go to Florida and Texas and other places.

Last year alone, they lost a net 367,000 people

to Florida, to Idaho, and to Texas.

And the person who should be most excited about that is Gavin Newsom because those people weren't there to vote against him in his recall.

Right.

Right?

Like if those people had stayed, he might not be in office.

Yeah.

So, and it's fascinating what has happened with Gavin Newsom because of the recall, which is a typical dumb tactic by the media, and a lot of people are falling for it, which is like basically like

they are saying, Gavin Newsom's strong.

He won his recall election easily.

Is it all that impressive, guys, that a Democrat in California could survive a recall by what is essentially eight percentage points?

I think he won 58, 42, if I'm remembering right.

It was somewhere around there.

And they're like, well, I won by 16 points.

Yeah, but if eight, there's only two ways to go.

So if 8% of the people changed their mind, it would have been tied or, you know, it would have maybe tipped over to the recall side.

Now, we know the dynamics of that election.

And that, like, Larry Elder is a guy that we like, and he's a good conservative.

Not exactly the flavor of Republican that would necessarily win a statewide election easily.

Arnold Schwarzenegger is, a guy who's essentially a Democrat.

Right.

And look, I think those guys suck.

Yeah.

I think Arnold Schwarzenegger sucks, but he still, like, that's the type of candidate that may have been able to win there.

Well, when he says, screw your freedom.

Yeah.

That sucks.

That's Gavin Newsome.

That's the guy who sucks.

Yeah, that guy sucks.

But like,

is it all that impressive?

No.

Like, you shouldn't.

The fact that they were able to come up with the, with

the amount of energy against Gavin Newsom to get the recall done in the first place.

It's only the second time in recent history it's happened.

Then you have a situation where...

He was pretty amazing to start with.

Then he was pushed to the brink by Larry Elder, who, again, is a guy I like, but is a talk show host.

Right.

And

has never served in

elected office and is also very conservative, something that I think would be a real great thing for California, but the California voter typically does not agree with.

And remember, just a few weeks before this election, it looked as if Larry Elder really had a chance to win.

Like it was very close.

Polls were showing it only a couple points.

Now, he extended that lead by a couple points.

He did did what he had to do in a bad situation.

You can give him that.

But like, it's not like this was some great achievement here.

No.

You know, he won in California, a state that had already voted for him.

He was able to hold on to the election and not get removed from office.

It's like saying, like, ah, Donald Trump survived that

impeachment vote.

That's a great, you know, like, that shows he's super strong.

Well, I mean, it shows he did what he had to do against the impeachment vote.

But, like, none of the media was saying, oh, this shows the strength of Donald Trump.

Like, that's not what happens.

And what's great in California is they have the freedom to pay $7 a gallon for gasoline and about a million dollars for a thousand square feet of home space.

You know, I've got a 1,200 square foot home and I have the freedom to pay $1.5 million for that.

I mean, it's outrageous what's happening in California.

You can't afford to live there.

If you're any kind of, if you have any sort of normal salary, you're making $50,000 or $60,000.

There's no way you can buy a home in California.

Yeah.

You can maybe get a shack.

You can maybe rent a shed.

But

you're not going to buy a home when you're making $50,000 in California.

No.

That's not.

I mean, I remember there was a time, I don't remember.

This is a while ago, but it was if you were making the minimum salary as a player for the San Francisco Giants, you couldn't afford the average home.

I remember that.

And I don't know.

In San Francisco.

In San Francisco.

Yeah, too expensive.

Too expensive.

You would not qualify for

a mortgage.

Wasn't it a $700,000 or $800,000 salary they were talking about?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Maybe at the time it was $600,000, something like that for a minimum.

It's incredible.

And we should also point out that Gavin Newsom, when he was mayor of San Francisco, I reference it briefly here, but it's important to remember how crazy this was.

He slept with like his best friend's wife.

Oh, that's right.

It wasn't like just some

affair.

It was like his best friend's wife, who he hired under him as a staffer.

That's right.

And then slept with the staffer.

He's a douchebag.

Oh, he's a terrible human being

in so many ways.

And this is probably the smallest of them.

Who am I to judge?

I'm just saying he's going to burn in the fires of hell.

Right.

Yeah.

You're not judging.

I'm not judging.

You're just saying one little thing about it.

It's just one thing.

He's going to burn in the fires of hell.

Exactly.

But like,

what happened to the Me Too movement here?

Yeah.

You know, she has come out and said, well, it's not really me too.

I was 33 years old.

I knew what I was doing.

And like, that's an acceptable thing for a Republican to say, right?

Like, a Republican, the Republican side of the argument is, you know, women actually have agency and can make decisions of their own.

Yeah, but Democrats have that power dynamic thing.

Yeah.

That's what they say.

Yeah.

They say, like, when, you know, a celebrity sleeps with some some underling,

they say it can't be consensual because

there's a power dynamic there.

I remember they said that with Louis C.K.

when he, when he had his situation going on, and he

was so powerful, you couldn't

go against his will.

Right.

You couldn't.

This was their argument.

Like, there was some comedian that came out and said, like, you know, his thing was...

I don't want to get into the details here, but his thing was basically pleasuring himself while women were press watched.

Yeah.

Again, I don't know.

And I think he asked for permission.

And he asked asked for permission, and they said yes.

They didn't leave.

They said, oh, yeah, sure.

Which they could have left.

Which they could have left.

Except for the power dynamic.

So they said yes, and they sat there and endured the spectacle.

Yeah.

And the reason why it was a Me Too violation was because

he was a powerful comedian.

And I guess would control their comedy careers if they didn't say yes, which is complete nonsense.

And wasn't one of them on the phone?

There was one of those cases.

It It was on the phone.

There's one of those.

Hang up.

Yes.

Where

the Me Too complaint against Louis K was that he was on the phone with her with a woman, and she believed that he was touching himself while they were on the phone.

He didn't say he was or

like request, like, I don't know.

Hey, do you mind if I?

I don't know.

I don't know how to explain this.

I don't think he did.

I don't think he got permission on that one.

No, he, if he was doing it, which we don't know if he was and she didn't know but she see i guess it sounded like he was which again i don't want to think about the details the point being here that their entire complaint for eradicating this guy's career was the power dynamic yeah okay now gavin newsom who is the mayor of san francisco he takes a direct staffer and sleeps with her, which also happens to be the, her best friend's wife.

Was it his best friend's wife, excuse me?

Kimberly Guilfoyle.

Was he married to her her at the time?

No, this was.

You know, I don't remember.

I think he was married at the time, too.

I don't remember.

I don't remember.

Because he was at one point married to Fox, well, former Fox anchor, Kimberly Guilfoyle.

Okay.

Which is, again,

strange.

People tell me that he's a very good-looking man.

Yeah.

And, you know, he looks to me like American Psycho.

And I guess.

I guess he was a good-looking guy in that movie.

He did murder a bunch of people, too.

But part of the charm.

What, are you perfect?

Are you perfect, Stu?

You know, I'm not.

I've made my seller mistake.

Okay.

Well, then.

Now, none of them happened to be putting tarps down in my apartment and brutally slaughtering people while listening to Hugie Lewis in the news.

Really?

You haven't done that?

That wasn't my particular mistake, but we all have our struggles.

That's right.

Exactly what I'm saying.

That's exactly what I'm saying.

And Gavin Newsom.

has his that may or may not be the same as the character in American Psycho.

We don't don't know.

We don't know.

We're not with him at all times.

I wouldn't have predicted he'd sleep with his best friend's wife.

I wouldn't either.

I would not either.

I would now.

I certainly wouldn't bring my wife around him now.

Right.

But back then, it would be probably surprising.

Probably was surprising to his best friend, who's, by the way, I don't know if I've mentioned he slept with his best friend's wife.

And who is a direct staffer of his.

But we should overlook that.

Yeah.

Because of the great job he did on COVID, question mark.

Well, look, it doesn't have have anything to do with the presidency.

It doesn't mean he can't be a good president.

That's right, it's his personal life.

All right.

It's for actually the eating, dining out in the middle of the COVID restrictions, not really his personal life.

No, no, but the girlfriend thing, that's personal.