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Wow, what a podcast today Where we were really looking into what's happening in our schools.

We give you some more details on what was happening in Loudoun County, the update on that with the father who was just trying to protect his daughter from the scoundrels.

Really, I think these people should be in jail in Loudoun County that were keeping information from the parents and making this father out to be a terrorist only to see the guy, the kid, apparently rape and abuse a second girl.

We talk about that also.

Dave Raboy, Sanjay Gupta on Joe Rogan, and so much more on today's podcast.

You're listening to

the best of the Blandback program.

Make sure you go back and watch my Wednesday night special from last night.

It was on a national divorce.

And

I hope that doesn't happen.

But I think it's a good case that we cannot go back to where we were

because we disagree on too many fundamental things.

And the thing that you can do is strengthen your state, especially if you're in a red state.

You've got

to strengthen your state.

And red states need to start to stand together and draw the line on the Constitution.

There is an amazing story that's been going on in Wyoming and I have family in Wyoming.

When did Wyoming become a wuss of a state?

When did Wyoming and Laramie, Wyoming, a town that is of 30,000 people, it's a college town,

When did they start handcuffing students because they wouldn't wear a mask?

I believe that's new.

I would say, though, I don't know that we blame the entire state of Wyoming for this, right?

This is no, but because they don't have a mask man in the state of Wyoming.

Not I was just at a wedding last summer.

They didn't have one.

Either I or we just didn't care.

Right.

I mean, that's also what 90% of these masked men mean at this point is that people just don't pay attention to them.

But, I mean, I don't know that the state of Wyoming in its entirety, I don't know that it's to blame for this.

But this, this, certainly, this town in this slash school district, I mean, this seems completely nuts okay i want to introduce you to grace smith and i believe her father is on the phone as well mr smith

who should go to washington grace

grace are you there yes i am hi how are you tell the audience

tell the audience what happened to you in in school

Yeah, I've been protesting the masks since the beginning of the school year because our school district set up a mandate.

I was suspended three times with a two-day-out-of-school suspension each.

I was issued two $500 trespassing citations, so I now owe $1,000 in trespassing citations for not leaving after being suspended.

And then I was arrested after the school was put on lockdown for an hour and a half

after I was suspended because they refused to let me back into class.

And the police came, they actually handcuffed you.

How long were you in jail?

Did they actually book you?

No, well, they took me straight to the jail.

And

I didn't ever went in a cell.

I actually just sat in the lobby, and then they took my handcuffs off and took me into a back room that looked like an office.

I was in there for maybe 30 minutes.

They just asked me simple paperwork questions like medical history, first mill, last name, things like that.

And then they released me right out the front door to my dad.

No bond, no bail.

And I never went in a jail cell.

Okay.

Dad is on the phone.

I'm sorry.

I don't know your first name, Mr.

Smith.

Andy.

Andy, okay.

Andy, first of all, good for you.

Sounds like you really raised a good citizen here.

Yes, she's really amazing.

So was this her idea?

Yeah, so Grace came to us at the beginning of the year.

She informed us that she did not want to wear a mask.

And her mother and I told her that that was fine, that we would support that decision.

But if we looked into the legality of their policy and we found the policy to have legal standing, then she would have to make a decision to either wear the mask and go to school or drop out and do homeschooling.

And so what we found was quite the contrary.

We believe that

the Wyoming State Constitution affords us the right as parents and legal guardians of Grace to make her health care decisions.

And so we began challenging their authority.

And

as a result, this is where we ended up.

So Grace ended up being targeted.

I think we were just asking the right questions, I guess.

So they kind of came after her first.

So it's important for people to know that on the day of her arrest, Grace believes about at least a third, if not a half, of the student body was not in masks.

Holy cow.

So

what does that mean?

Well, it means they lost control.

So Grace, her silent protest of not wearing a mask empowered other kids to make the same decision.

And they had a lot of empty threats.

They were going to do this, do that, start suspending kids.

But they hadn't actually started to act.

And they waited until they got an official statement from the governor.

So Governor Gordon came out with a statement of support to the school boards and the superintendents and the counties that were making the mask policies.

And as soon as they had that letter of support,

then they began to act and started to suspend a few children.

So as far as we know, only four kids total had been suspended,

even though countless kids have been not wearing masks.

And

so they've slapped the town into submission.

Yes,

it's pretty wild.

You know, these parents are not given the choice,

and they're using the guise of the COVID-19 Delta variant situation and the quarantine recommendations from the CDC as their reasoning.

So what's happening is kids are getting contact traced in the classroom if one kid pops positive and then they're sending hundreds of kids home at a time for 14 days at a time.

Good heavens.

We're back to quarantine the healthy.

The flu is more dangerous.

The flu is more dangerous to teenagers and kids than coronavirus.

Yes, that's correct.

And I do want to be clear that we did not approach this from the coronavirus standpoint.

We didn't argue the efficacy of the mask or anything like that.

We went about this from a civil rights aspect

and challenged their actual authority to the matter because that's just what we felt was more important.

Because we saw that no, there was you're not going to win the argument on the COVID stuff with these people.

So

well, you would if you listened to science, but nobody's listening to science anymore.

So, what is next, Grace?

I mean, is this over?

Do you think anyone's going to stand up?

Is this just the beginning?

What's next?

Well, last night at the board meeting, I withdrawed from the school.

And so I'm going to start a homeschool program because it's not necessarily safe for me to go back because we've had personal threats to our family.

And I've been bullied.

And there was a singing threat last Friday

to the school.

Hang on just a second.

Dad, how long have you lived in Wyoming?

I was born in this town.

What has happened to your town?

It's really sad, and it's happening everywhere.

The simple answer is indoctrination.

And

we live in a university town.

It's a state university.

It's the only one in Wyoming.

And it's one of only two counties in the state that's blue.

And that's driven by the university.

So it's just another example of how the universities are

taking over.

Gosh.

Shut those places down.

They are just poison, poison for our republic.

All right.

So you had to withdraw and you did that, you know, not in person at the school board meeting, right?

Correct.

Okay.

And what was the response?

Well, it was just doing open comment, so there wasn't a response.

But

I was the last to speak of 15 people, and I think that it was definitely a very impactful thing to end with the public comment with.

And I think that it hopefully put things in perspective for all the board members to see that they really messed up.

But since that, I'm going to continue to fight this legally.

We're filing lawsuits, and we're working on how to fight this legally.

So I'm going to devote most of my time to that from now on.

Grace, I would love to invite you.

It's a tough, rigorous process that people have to

go through to get to

our classes here on leadership that we do at the Mercury Studios and Mercury One

American Journey Center.

I'll put you at the front of the line.

If you would like to come down for one of these training sessions, you are a leader of the future, and we'd sure like to help arm you with the truth about our history and everything else.

So you're welcome at any time if you want to take me up on that.

I understand that you guys were, I mean, what do you do for a living?

We own a,

well, I mean, we're trying to keep the business separate.

Okay, okay.

I mean, but

I understand that, you know, you're going to have all kinds of of costs involved in

legal funds, et cetera, et cetera.

And

you tried to go to GoFundMe, and GoFundMe

shut you down?

Yeah, it was interesting.

I never did get a response from GoFundMe to know the official reason,

but

they...

put a hold on all the funds, the ability to withdraw the money.

And they did that.

they needed to get some clarification on what the money would be used for.

So I reached out to them and they would not respond and then

got in touch with a couple people that have had experience in the matter and basically informed me that

this is kind of their precursor for their censorship.

So they were most likely going to shut the

fund down.

So we kind of got ahead of the curve there, opened up an account with Give, Send, Go.

I've never heard of them.

It's a Christian group, right?

Christian group.

And I got to tell you, they've been incredible.

We actually, they had a question about our account, and instead of shutting us down, they

got a phone call from the CEO who

asked for some clarification and got it back going and is offering his full support to us.

It's crazy when you just reach out to people.

You don't have to shut them down.

But we've seen that with GoFundMe.

We'll start using GiveSendGo as well.

So you go to givesendgo.com and what do you look for to be able to donate?

Grace, why don't you tell them?

Yeah,

you look for stand with Grace.

Okay.

And what is the money going to be used for?

It's going to be used for not only our legal fees, but legal fees of any other kid in the state and possibly the nation that wants to continue to fight this legally.

And the more money we get, the more kids we can help.

That is fantastic.

That is fantastic.

Grace,

good for you for leading your generation and standing up.

You will be remembered.

Thank you.

And you will be, when you're 90, you will be able to say, when the world went crazy, this is what me and my family did.

And I think that's fantastic.

Thanks, Grace.

Yeah, thank you.

Let us know if we can help again.

Stand with Grace

and

you can donate now at,

I want to make sure I have this right.

Is it give?

What was it, Stu?

Give, send, go.

Yes, givesendgo.com slash stand number four, Grace.

You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

I want to introduce you to somebody who is the president of Campus Renewal, a national nonprofit.

He is a, he's also the state chaplain for the Republican Party in Texas.

He is on America's National Prayer Committee, the National Day of Prayer, the Executive Board of Intercessors for America, the Collegiate Day of Prayer, and also on the Parents Advisory Board for King's College, New York City.

I met him in our hallway

just a couple of days ago.

He has been painted as a domestic terrorist because of what happened at a school board.

I want to bring him in now and he can tell the story.

We have about nine minutes, and I know this is a very complex story, Jeremy, but

you tell me

where we start.

Yeah, we start with just this district hiring our current superintendent back in June, violating the Open Meetings Act.

It appears to all of us, through a variety of means, which we don't have in nine minutes to tell, that they basically coordinated the hire behind the scenes without the full knowledge of the board or the public, only a subset of the board.

Okay, and this guy

got involved.

This guy is,

you say, you were just asking, and others were asking, just for a few more days to vet this guy because there were things that were, I mean, he arrested a grandmother, if I'm not mistaken,

in his earlier school board

role in another district, correct?

Yeah, in another district, there had been evidence surfaced and a video evidence that he had used a, not so much arrest, but he'd used a restraining order against her to keep her from being able to come onto campus to be able to speak at school board meetings.

And he enforced it with the district police of Donna ISD.

And so we had seen there was potentially a history like that, and we we wanted the board to further vet him.

But instead of them further vetting him, five out of the seven, two did not.

Two stood with the public, but five said, no, we don't even want to vet him.

We're going to hire him right now.

And then we watched him be pulled out of a back room in that same meeting they were supposedly voting on his hire and said, oh, he's with us.

He's traveled for six hours to be here.

And at that point, I began to realize that they had coordinated this ahead of time.

And that's why they were doing this.

And we've seen further evidence since then that that seems to be the case.

And so, because they had leveraged district resources and everything and already had him in the room while they were literally debating about hiring him.

Okay.

So,

this is a school district that is outside of Austin.

And I mean, Texas is a firewall state.

And you have now been arrested.

And you're now called a terrorist.

You were arrested at a school board meeting.

And tell me the story here.

What happened?

I was arrested for basically speaking publicly during my comments period.

I was called up to the stand to sort of testify in front of the board by the board president.

Before I got to the stand, she interrupted me and told me that I could not speak because she felt I was going to speak on something that was non-germane.

But I had not said a word yet.

But she already knew that she didn't want me to speak because I had written them letters calling them out because I had found out that the superintendent had a protective order against him for assault and that there was allegations against him that he had and I'd looked at all the evidence and seen text messages and a variety of other things that he had according to these allegations assaulted

shortly after he was hired his girlfriend it was his mistress as well and that from that situation the reason why he assaulted her was because he she had told him that he was pregnant

that she was pregnant.

He had asked her to get an abortion.

She had said no repeatedly.

So

he threatened this woman with violence and saying that he was going to come take care of the kid if she wouldn't, meaning he was willing to threaten his own child with violence.

And then she went to the school board asking for help

because he had threatened to use a few of the school board members against her.

He had said that some of them were in his back pocket, basically, and that they would support him.

And so she decided she would try to appeal to the rest.

And basically, only two, the same two that had voted for further vetting, are the only ones that tried to help.

The other five basically turned a blind eye or discredited her.

And then a couple of them, we know that at least one

looks like potentially others.

The evidence seems to show to us, in our opinion, and what we can see, and what the victim is alleging

is that they then texted the superintendent.

They then, you know, somehow communicated with him.

And then he then went to her house and assaulted her and made good on his promise, which is what resulted in the protective order that's still been pending against him.

And then her home was burglarized.

Nothing was taken except her laptop and her personal diary, which is weird.

Yes.

And then what happened was I went to go to the board after trying to deal with it via email and smaller means, just talking to the board and finding that five of them were keeping it off the agenda.

They were denying there was any issue, basically.

They said it wasn't their responsibility to take care of,

all these sorts of things.

So I went to the board meeting to try to talk about it.

And when I began to speak, the board president cut me off and told me not to,

told me that basically she didn't think I could.

I said, I'll show you how it's germane to the top.

Let me play the audio.

Here you are here.

Our next speaker then is Jeremy Story.

Mr.

Story, you did write that you felt like you could speak about something other than D1 or D2.

I would like to remind you, this is a special called meeting.

It is not a regular board meeting.

We are only taking comments on these two items.

And I will show you how what I'm about to comment on is related to that.

Mr.

Story, are are you able to?

Can you demonstrate that?

Yes, I will.

No, I do not want you to demonstrate.

So you're not willing for me to demonstrate, Mrs.

Weir?

I'm asking.

I can show you how your resolution that you're debating today has absolute germanity to what I'm going to speak on.

Are you saying you don't want to hear me?

The resolution.

Are you saying you don't want to hear me?

No, sir.

I'm absolutely willing to hear you.

I do want to hear.

Today I speak on the rule of law.

I don't envy your choice today.

I trust that most people value each other even though they are on different sides of the issue.

I also understand the seriousness of the COVID epidemic.

I understand the rule of law.

Yet several members of this board and superintendent have an utter disregard.

So now they drag you out.

And

are you charged with anything here?

No, I'm not.

I begin speaking.

She lets me speak for about a minute.

And then I get to the point and I utter the words, I think, protective order.

And she just cuts me off.

Unless she's clairvoyant, I don't know how she even knew.

Obviously, she had premeditated this.

She then waved her hand, the superintendent, and said, banged or gabble, yelled, said, Hey, told the police to come get me.

The superintendent nodded his head, and then two police officers who are district police officers, not city police officers, they're basically ultimately reported to the superintendent, grabbed me by each arm, dragged me out of the room, dragged me down the hallway, dragged me across the cafeteria, and pushed me out the front door.

They did not arrest me at that time.

30 days later or so, all of a sudden they show up at my house after getting a warrant that same day, 30 days later.

Why?

Why did that happen?

Why did they get a warrant around

why the 30-day delay?

I believe that they were targeting me.

They also simultaneously went to another gentleman's house.

His name is Dustin Clark.

He is a veteran.

He's an Army captain, a great guy.

He's a businessman.

And they had arrested him at the same exact time in sort of a clandestine operation where they were at his house and my house at the same time arresting us.

They had gotten a warrant that very day.

They had then been able to mobilize all these people within a matter of hours and showed up at our houses.

What were you charged with?

Nothing.

What were you charged with?

I was charged with disorderly conduct with intent to disrupt a meeting.

Okay, and is this the thing that happened in September?

That's correct.

Okay, because basically speaking during the public comments period.

All right, so there was public comments.

This is a later event.

375-person lecture hall.

They took the seats out.

There were only 18 seats.

Parents who brought their own chairs were threatened.

50 students across the hall were not required to space,

and the policy isn't enforced anywhere else in the district.

So you and other parents were kept out of the school board.

We have video of this.

If you will explain to us what is happening, what did they do?

Yeah, sure.

About 30 days later, they have another board meeting, except this time they had stationed police officers outside the front doors of the board meeting and were telling parents that unless you could sit in one of those 18 chairs, they had taken all the chairs out of a 375-person auditorium, except for about 18, and said, unless you could sit in one of those, that you were not allowed to be in the room.

Even other parents had brought their own chairs and were trying to obey the distancing rule, which was easy to do in such a large room.

And they were saying things like, the board president was saying things like, well, if you're not in one of these government-approved chairs, basically, you can't be in here and we'll kick you out.

And they had put police officers at the front doors, preventing people from walking in to that second meeting that was a month later.

And then we were arrested even a few days after that.

I was particularly arrested

a day after the district received my legal grievance.

The next day,

they came and arrested us, and they put us in jail overnight.

They arrested us at about 5 o'clock with intent, I believe, and Dustin believes as well, and so do many, many other people, including our lawyer, to hold us overnight because there was no magistrate there, and that way they could hold us overnight.

The community rallied and has worked to raise money.

And overnight, they basically held a vigil outside the jail cell cell demanding that we would be released so that we could get a magistrate there.

But basically they coordinated the school district coordinated with the sheriff who then the sheriff made a special exception for Dustin and I that was against their normal booking policy because they weren't taking people of our level of offense.

They were only taking violent criminals and drunk drivers and things like that.

And they made a special exception for us to not only get a warrant, not only run within hours to get to both of our houses, but they made a special booking exception to be able to put us in jail that night.

They were turning people away for similar level offenses the same night.

We were treated very specially in a not-so-special good way because we were being targeted for speaking out about malfeasance of our school board, illegal malfeasance, where our superintendent has a protective order against him.

He's accused of committing assault.

Some of our board members seem to have been at least involved in informing him about before the victim became a victim, right, when she was trying to go for them for help, and it also seems to us that several of them were coordinating his hire privately behind the scenes before he was even hired.

And so, these are the sorts of things we were saying.

And I was not being violent, I was not

no, I see in the video, it shows you trying to get past the police.

And I know in the audio, you say, What law am I violating?

Why won't you let me pass?

And they won't answer you.

And what they were doing was passing

a tax increase without the public being allowed to be in.

Is that correct?

Right.

It's our belief that they were

doing all this in order to minimize public input because they all have done some wrong things.

And I don't think they wanted to be exposed.

And we believe they were doing it to minimize public input.

While two board members also felt the same way, the same two, Daniel Bone and Mary Weston, who had voted for further vetting and had been trying to get this on the agenda to speak about what the superintendent was at least alleged to have done and very credible evidence, those same two decided in that board meeting you're describing to walk out because they felt this was a violation of the Texas Open Meetings Act and they didn't want to

have to deal with going to jail or anything over there.

They didn't want to violate the law.

So they left in the middle of that school board meeting.

So if you picture this school board meeting is now 30 days later from the original incident, they've got police officers holding people outside the doors.

They have two board members that leave in the middle because they say, we're not going to have any part of this.

And then shortly right after that, they then vote to pass the tax increase.

And they don't have enough votes, but they pass it anyway.

They're supposed to have 60%.

They didn't have 60% of the vote of the total board.

And they passed a tax increase.

Why?

Because 3,000 students have fled our district in the last month.

And it's put the district in a $30 million sudden hold.

It's a surprise.

And they, in the midst of all of that, pass a tax increase.

And that's when Dustin, my friend, participating in the meeting, says, you can't pass a tax increase.

That's not legal in the way you did it.

And they called, had

the same thing, called the police with a wave of their hand, and then the police grabbed him and dragged him out the back door.

This is a gentleman who has fought for our country.

So as they are dragging him out the back door, not before, he says, you guys are communists.

And that's all you see on the videos, you know, in the news, is that he said that.

But you don't see anything about, and the board doesn't talk anything about the tax increase.

One other thing on that, Glenn, it gets crazier.

They then release a press release after all this.

Some of the board members of the district release a press release that says, we couldn't do business because of the disruption.

And so we had to adjourn the meeting, right?

But they did business.

They passed the tax increase.

And then, right after they passed the tax increase, they adjourned the meeting.

All right.

Partially the reason I believe is because

I'd called 911 and the police were coming.

If you want to follow Jeremy's story, Jeremy W.

Story, you can find him on Twitter, Jeremy W.

Story.

We'll continue to follow this story.

This is really important.

Most people have, I mean, have you ever heard of Round Rock, Texas?

Right.

If it's happening there, it's very likely it's happening elsewhere.

I've got 10 seconds, Jeremy.

Go ahead.

Okay.

We need to raise money for our legal defense and to make sure that this does not happen on other school boards across the country like we're seeing with the national stuff with Biden and the AG.

So how can people help you?

Your listeners to

riseforstudents.org.

Riseforstudents.org, and that will take you straight to a page where you can donate to our legal fund, which we will use 100% to make sure that this stops in this district and that we can set a precedent for it not to ever happen again in other districts where police force is used against citizens just simply trying to speak out.

Again, thank you very much, Jeremy.

I appreciate it.

We will follow this story.

The best of the Glenn Glen Bank program.

David Rapoy is with us.

He is a senior fellow at the Claremont Institute.

He was with me last night

on an hour-long program I did on Blaze TV.

Is it time for a national divorce?

I think David would agree, this is not in our best interest.

This is not what we would hope for our nation.

We would want for our nation.

But you made a great case yesterday, David, that it's coming one way or another.

It's the time to face reality that we live in a different kind of nation is right now.

Yeah,

I very much agree.

When I talk about national divorce, and I've written a piece

about it, a couple things at my sub stack at Late Republic Nonsense,

I'm using it as a kind of a rhetorical device.

I'm not saying, hey, let's do this tomorrow because this is great.

I'm saying it's a rhetorical device.

It gets us to think and talk about things that

we're not really apt to talk about unless we understand the stakes.

So tell me the stakes.

What's happening?

Where are we headed?

So, I mean, I think where we're headed is a kind of dystopia.

You know, it's a kind of centrally managed dystopia of

a variety of different flavors.

So you've got the great reset flavor.

You've got the

critical race theory flavor.

And you have all these different types of inputs, but what do they all have in common?

What they all have in common is they oppose the founding.

They oppose key bedrock principles like

Bill of Rights and equal justice under the law.

And, you know, frankly,

you know, the reality of biology and

all these things.

Our ability to express ourselves

outside the frame of

what they tell us we can say.

Right.

Freely and openly.

Right.

Which is like, frankly, it's kind of what you and I grew up with.

It's not a radical departure.

You know, the left tries to make it as if it's the scary, terrible thing that we want.

Like, no, I think, you know, I'm pretty cool with the 80s.

I'm pretty cool with the 90s, too.

Yeah.

You know, to be honest with you.

Yeah.

And, you know, of course, once 9-11 started, we have a whole different,

you know, a whole different call rolling down in a whole different country.

Yeah.

All right.

So

I have been shocked at how many people you

just Google national divorce or anything like that.

And people on both sides, I mean, I gave the stats last night.

I think it's 45% of the people who voted for Biden won a national divorce.

And 55% that voted for Trump won a national divorce.

And it's because there's no way back to each other.

If I believe in the Bill of Rights, then

I can't go with you if

you want to shut down anybody who thinks differently than you.

Right.

Years ago, I read Alan Bloom's Closing of the American Mind, which is a book that changed my life.

And in it, one of the great points he makes is that the things that we perceive in this culture to be

what makes us different,

you know, food and how people dress and the things they read and the music they listen to, all this is nonsense and it's all surface,

you know.

Doesn't matter in the end.

It doesn't matter in the end.

The important things are the things that we're talking about, the things upon which we really, you know, vehemently disagree.

So,

and I mean, these are the important, these were the important things for Socrates.

These were the important things for, you know,

for Machiavelli and Rousseau and Hobbes.

And these are the things that political philosophers

since the beginning have been wrestling with.

So they're not inconsequential.

It's a really big deal.

So you were saying last night that one of the things that we have to do is we have to start waking up to a

a two-rail society, that there are those who are going to go this way and then those that want to go the other way.

But that is a monstrous task to accomplish quickly.

I mean, because you need pretty much everything.

I mean, Texas is the only one that has

its power grid and it is disconnected from the rest of the country.

Texas is the only one that has all of their gold in place.

But you need new banking systems because, you know, I say this and I'm not sure people really understand.

It's going to to be harder and harder for you to get a loan.

Can you explain that?

Do you agree with it?

I mean,

I'm not an expert in

the loan industry.

Right.

But I mean, you know that because of ESG and some of these other things, like there's a story today that

the

green energy companies can't get a loan.

They can't get financing.

No one will give them financing.

So if you are one of these companies or people that are on the out,

they're going to crush you.

They'll crush you.

Yeah, they will crush you.

I call it an intellectual or an ideological cartel.

So if the state, you know, the state really doesn't have to do anything,

but the

private companies

which comprise an ideological cartel, they all think the same way.

They all, you know, they are all rent-seeking, incurring favor from the government, though it's kind of one step removed, you know, they'll just be the enforcers.

I mean, we saw this with Parler.

We're seeing it with the vaccine.

We're seeing vaccine mandates, right?

With Southwest.

Right.

There's no mandate.

It's not written.

It's not done.

And yet they're all doing it.

Right.

They're leaping to do it.

They cannot wait to do it because, you know, a combination of they believe in it and they're trying to curry favor with the government.

So what should people be doing right now?

How should we be thinking?

I would say that everybody who runs a business in america small or large you could have a pizza shop or a bakery or you know i mean something or you could have a multi-billion dollar corporation figure out how to put it in service of um of let's say red america figure out how to say i'm going to create a product that appeals to a certain segment and do it explicitly.

The left does this explicitly.

They tell you when you buy sneakers, when you buy any other products,

the subliminal message with colin kaepernick that they're nike is sending is these shoes are not for you red you know red america right so we do the same we need to we need to doesn't that widen the divide

it

i i don't think so i don't i mean i don't think so i don't think really anything that we do necessarily can widen like that that can widen the divide because what we need at the end of the day is self-sufficiency we need to be able to say okay

you know, okay,

health insurance company that,

you know, won't cover,

you know, basic whatever.

Your transplantation

won't cover your transplant, but will, you know, cover any type of transplantation

or abortion or whatever.

Okay, let's start a company that,

you know, that is more reasonable to or amenable to Red America.

So I don't know why this doesn't happen more often because

we've obviously shown that

you can get out of that and you can start your own thing.

And if you are appealing to, you know, I'd love to have everybody listen, but we're clearly for these principles and you can make money there.

And there's a ton of people that are craving product.

The problem is, is that, for instance, banking, I mean, the federal regulation of banking is crazy.

For us, the internet, social media, you're going up against Google to make anything that is

separate apart and good

is

years in development.

Yeah, it's years.

It's going to be very difficult, but this is why we need

really good red state governors

that can help out with this.

And we need more people who are living in New York and New Jersey and California who are

conservative to move to Texas, bring their companies and set things up.

More money,

more entrepreneurship, more

entrepreneurship in the service of these principles.

I mean, let's get real.

For decades, we thought, you know what,

the board of directors is all personally conservative, but we're operating as if we're agnostic to what's happening in America.

Right.

That can't fly anymore.

And,

you know, and I think people are starting very slowly to wake up to that fact.

I just heard from a friend this morning who said he is seeing so many people who are conservative walking away and just going, it's time for me to

take care of my family and just buckle up for what's coming.

And I just don't think there's a win in the end for you and your family if you I mean, because if you're so atomized.

Yeah, if you're if you're all by yourself

and you think you're just going to be able to be quiet and survive, remember, the Great Resets Plan is that you will own nothing by 2030.

That's quite an amazing statement to make.

I mean, think of how do you get a country that is so focused on ownership of things to have the population own nothing in eight years?

You're not going to be left alone.

You're not going to, there's no place to hide here.

And

the idea that we strengthen and we gather together in these red states and we hold our politicians locally and at the state level responsible.

We hold their feet to the fire.

I mean, just, we just had a girl on that was arrested at a high school in Laramie, Wyoming for not wearing a mask.

Laramie, Wyoming?

When you have that happening in a, in a, just an absolute red state like Wyoming, you got problems.

It means the people are sleeping on the job.

It means the people in Wyoming said, you know what?

Things are pretty cool.

We don't have to watch the school board.

We don't have to keep our eyes on these things.

And they're going to start having to do so.

You know, I mean, the other thing, we've been through, what, 20 years now of, or at least 10, of this concept of digital networks connecting people.

I think phase two of where we have to go is to create local communities where we know one another, we live proximate to one another, we have, you know, we see each other often and we have real communities again.

Dave Reboy, he is, uh you can find him at dave reboy.substack.com

he writes for american greatness and uh he's part of the uh claremont institute um

let's talk a little bit about moving if you're in a blue state um because i i i think that if you are

if you are the uh the kangaroo in the the dog kennel, you are in deep trouble.

It's not fun.

Yeah.

And it's not only not fun, but

you have to go to where you are going to be around like-minded people who will stand.

Otherwise, you're alone.

Yeah.

I have multiple friends who lived or live in blue cities, large blue cities, who are

of the activist type.

And you may know them.

And they've been harassed at home,

letters and,

signs posted around their house.

I mean, this is not, and we're not talking about multi-billion dollar or multi-millionaire

media

moguls who can afford security and things like that.

I mean, these are just people.

And so we see that things could go terribly wrong very quickly.

Well, I mean, I hate to be

alarmist here, but know some of these people actually do talk about purges and some of their ideology goes right to a purge uh and you don't want to be around that you don't want to be around that no but on the bright side we can help each other i mean i i i have a home in a uh a town of about 500 people

we know everybody uh everybody knows us We are all kind of relatively like-minded.

They're already talking about, you know, if more people come to our area, how can we help them?

You know,

they kind of look out for each other.

That's really critical in the world that's coming.

Yeah, I agree.

I think we shouldn't forget about cities, though, as well.

I mean, cities in red states used to be quite conservative

at one time.

I mean, we had that.

This is, you know,

insane progressive leftist

blue cities are are not, I mean, that's not necessarily been the norm in American history.

Where do you find one now?

Well, you have to build one.

Yeah, okay.

I was going to say, because they're gone.

They're not.

You have to go.

You have to build one.

I'm not saying from scratch, but from

smaller places and make sure that you have

these things in mind.

Make sure that it's explicit.

You're creating a community.

And if somebody is from from the left who wants to live there peacefully, fine, but they're not going to want to.

Right.

You just, it makes it a, I mean, everybody has a flag in their front yard.

They're not going to want to.

You don't have to say anything.

Right.

I mean, you know, when my buddy just bought a house, he was like, oh my God, there are no BLM signs anywhere.

This is my neighborhood.

Isn't that crazy?

And

these are the,

you know, these are the

like the

signs.

These are the, you know, this is the symbology

of our time.

And all of these things point to the same thing at the end of the day.

There's a couple of stories that I want you to read from Dave.

One is national divorce is expensive, but it is worth every penny.

And stop yelling, stop.

You can find them at davereboy.com.

That's R-E-A-B-O-I.com.

Keep writing.

Keep speaking out, my friend.

Thank you.

You're an important voice.

I appreciate it.

Really appreciate it.