MSM Spins the Million MAGA March | Guest: Alan Dershowitz | 11/16/20

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Speaker 2 Some agonizing news. First of all, the top state media appointee for the U.S.

Speaker 2 President-elect Joe Biden's transition team has enthusiastically defended the use of propaganda against Americans and is rethinking the First Amendment.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Who knew we even had a

Speaker 2 top state media appointee? But we do. We'll get into that in a second also.
Oh my, I don't know if I can even play the audio. It's so agonizing.

Speaker 2 Of Barack Obama yesterday on 60 Minutes. It just never ends with these people.
And

Speaker 2 the Million MAGA March. There were not a million people.
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Speaker 2 Barack Obama.

Speaker 4 There's been

Speaker 4 this sense over the last several years that literally anything goes and is justified in order to get power.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 4 that's not unique to the United States. There are strongmen and dictators around the world who think that I can do anything to stay in power.

Speaker 4 I can kill people. I can throw them in jail.
I can run phony elections. I can

Speaker 2 suppress journalists.

Speaker 4 But that's not who we're supposed to be.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 oh,

Speaker 2 good, tug it.

Speaker 2 Oh, in the last four years,

Speaker 2 there's been this sense that they think they can do anything to stay in power.

Speaker 2 Okay? You mean, I have another, he said, kill people, throw them in jail, run in funny elections. I have another one, like,

Speaker 2 like

Speaker 2 come up with fake charges of

Speaker 2 collusion in Russia.

Speaker 2 Like going to Ukraine and having the Ukrainians actually help you with that.

Speaker 2 Here's another one. That you can just use the State Department and the intelligence community to spy on Americans and candidates.

Speaker 2 That you can just take lie after lie after lie and try to impeach a president. That you can take and suppress the news

Speaker 2 and that way nobody knows what joe biden and his son did in china

Speaker 2 oh my gosh oh and then you can run a phony election because he had that one too i can run phony oh look at he said i can run phony elections

Speaker 2 I can suppress journalists. That's because that's what he did.
You know that, right? Where is, where's Rosen?

Speaker 2 Where's James Rosen?

Speaker 2 He was uh tapped

Speaker 2 he was investigated he was threatened by the white house by the obama white house anybody remember that you know donald trump may talk big but it's his talk that has exposed all of these liars in the media he didn't actually do anything obama spoke oh just they're wonderful oh there i think the press is being uh put into danger by that tea party those moms and their children out there with the handmade star is

Speaker 2 the handmade signs with the glitter on it. Oh, they pose a great threat.
Oh, to these great journalists. Meanwhile, behind the scenes, what is he doing?

Speaker 2 He's spying on them and threatening them.

Speaker 2 Oh, my gosh, I just can't take it. And then we have this.

Speaker 2 Richard Stengel. Ever heard of Richard Stangle?

Speaker 2 Richard Stangle was in, oh, you're gonna love this, was in the Obama Biden State Department. Now, I don't know about you, but I have full confidence in the State Department.

Speaker 2 I think the State Department is quite possibly one of the most honest, right, spot-on, accurate group of, oh my gosh, my head's gonna explode!

Speaker 2 So he was with the State Department. Now

Speaker 2 he has been named the State Media Appointee. Ooh, state media.
Did you know we had

Speaker 2 state media?

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 we do.

Speaker 2 We have a state media. It was started by

Speaker 2 the CIA, and it's the global state media that we put out.

Speaker 2 You know, I thought we were putting out the truth you know voice of America but no no no no we're putting out propaganda that's what we do that's what he said my old job at the statement state department was

Speaker 2 what people used to joke as the chief propagandist I'm not against propaganda Every country does it, and they have to do it to their own population. Wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 2 See, I'm not against propaganda if we're in a war and we are fighting with propaganda. You know, we are sending propaganda like Tokyo Rose, you know, we

Speaker 2 do that to our enemies. Okay.

Speaker 2 Strategically, I'm good with that.

Speaker 2 But he, he, what did he say? I'm not against propaganda. Every country does it, and they have to do it to their own population.
Hmm.

Speaker 2 But surely this new Biden appointee thinks it's wrong. Oh no, the next line.
And I don't necessarily think that's awful.

Speaker 2 It's great.

Speaker 2 Oh, we're going to get the truth now. Where's Barack Obama on this one?

Speaker 2 The State Department under President Barack Obama, Stengel boasted that he started the only entity in government, non-classified entity, that combated Russian disinformation.

Speaker 2 A committed crusader in what he openly describes as a global information war stengel has proudly proclaimed his dedication to the carefully careful management of the public's access to information oh that sounds good too

Speaker 2 the careful management

Speaker 2 of the public's access to information He outlined his new, kind of exciting view, his worldview, in a book he published this June called Information Wars.

Speaker 2 That's kind of

Speaker 2 Infowars. He did.
That's an odd. Yeah.
Stengel has proposed rethinking, I'm quoting, rethinking the First Amendment

Speaker 2 that guarantees freedom of speech and freedom of press.

Speaker 2 In 2018, he said, having been almost a First Amendment absolutist in my life, I've really moved my position on it because I think for practical reasons in society, we have to kind of rethink some of those things.

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Speaker 2 Now,

Speaker 2 this is the kind of things, this is from Red State. These are the kinds of things we really need to, we really need to think.
For instance, parlor.

Speaker 2 Dave Troy, a left-wing TED Talk speaker who who bills himself as a disinformation analyst,

Speaker 2 says that parlor is getting too big for its britches.

Speaker 2 He began his rant on the nefarious origins of parlor, beginning with Russia.

Speaker 2 Did you know this? I didn't know. Yeah, Russia.
Russia did it. Yeah, Russia did it.
Russia is probably, you can't prove it. He says, I don't have the evidence to prove this, but Russia funded it.

Speaker 2 I mean, what would you need evidence for on a claim like this? You know what? Let's just say it. You know what I'm saying? Let's just say it.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 he moves pretty quickly,

Speaker 2 you know, right, you know, right from the, hey, Russia is responsible for

Speaker 2 parlor. But he said, all these conservatives wanted to have their own social media and challenge the dominance of the current cabal.

Speaker 2 He says that

Speaker 2 we're like pro-Cabal now? Like, we're actually going to take the positive side on a cabal? Yes. Market competition is a deliberate eroding

Speaker 2 of the other firms. So this is what he's saying is, is that we are eroding

Speaker 2 the other

Speaker 2 places, social media places like Facebook and Twitter. And this has to be stopped.
It can't. It's, quote, a bizarre anti-social mission that we're going to enter our own echo chamber.

Speaker 2 No, you know, it's not an echo chamber. What you have is an echo chamber.

Speaker 2 You are controlling all of the speech. You're controlling what's said, what's not said.

Speaker 2 See, Parlor is not an echo chamber because you're welcome to come over. And you can say all of your bat crap crazy stuff over on Parlor and they're not going to ban you.

Speaker 2 They're not going to play the information police. They're not going to be burning books.
Oh, by the way, by the way, speaking of that, Burbank has just removed five novels because they're racist.

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Speaker 2 Oh my gosh, shut up.

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Speaker 2 I wish I was in Washington this weekend with the Million MAGA march. Wasn't a million people.
Did you know that's too?

Speaker 2 That's the only thing worth covering, Glenn. It really, it really wasn't.
What was the exact number if it wasn't a million? Because all the other million man marches were always really a million, too.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
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Dominion voting machine.

Speaker 2 I mean, I get one story and then the next. This is actually higher.

Speaker 2 Switching it up. This is higher quality than online discourse these days.

Speaker 2 Okay, so there was the Million MAGA march. Donald Trump went and circled the crowd.
It was a large crowd.

Speaker 2 It seemed to me the pictures I saw, and correct me if I'm wrong, the pictures I saw were about the size of the first Tea Party thing.

Speaker 2 No, not so big. I don't know if it was that big, but it was a lot of people.
I mean, it was a lot of people. A lot of people.
It was a lot of people. A lot of people.

Speaker 2 And, you know, remember, this is something that is not being promoted by the unions. No, it's being opposed by everybody.
Yeah. And nobody was talking about it last week.

Speaker 2 Nobody was promoting it. You know, the media was absolute silence until the beatings began.

Speaker 2 And then, of course, they're like, look at these dangerous people.

Speaker 2 Luckily, one of our reporters was there.

Speaker 2 We're going to have him on in just a little while to talk about it. Could we just show the

Speaker 2 beatings? Let's take the

Speaker 2 Trump supporter pushed off bike first, if we have.

Speaker 2 There he is.

Speaker 2 That's nice.

Speaker 2 That's nice. So they're just Antiphos surrounds the guy.
And I mean, he's dressed in a white shirt. This is Trump, red pants on a scooter.
I mean, he is, it really is like,

Speaker 2 you know, picking on the one kid in school.

Speaker 2 The

Speaker 2 Trump supporter hit in the head. Can we play this one?

Speaker 2 Like this. Look at this.
Here's a woman.

Speaker 2 I'm a reporter. Can you tell me what happened? No.
Come on, let's go.

Speaker 2 Punched her in the head.

Speaker 2 Just walking down the street. Yep.
Just walking down the street.

Speaker 2 One more, please.

Speaker 2 Look at that.

Speaker 2 Look at this. Just pummeling this guy on the street.

Speaker 2 It's hard to know who is the good guy and bad guy in this circumstance because the guy who's in a major fight here, as we're seeing, winds up getting completely knocked out and his face bloodied

Speaker 2 for another cheap shot. It's always a cheap shot.

Speaker 2 I mean, just

Speaker 2 this, I mean, is this what we've come to? Is this who we are?

Speaker 2 There's the guy. That's what he gets.
Never.

Speaker 2 You know, never an actual fight. Always just jumping behind somebody, hitting them in the head, and then running.
Yeah, the new school thing is apparently like cheap shots are no longer cheap.

Speaker 2 Certainly to Antifa. They don't care about that.
That used to be something you'd be embarrassed about as a guy if you got in a fight and you had to resort to a cheap shot. Now that's all they do.

Speaker 2 That's all they do is come up from behind Trump supporters as they're walking away and hit them on the side of the head and then they fall face first into pavement and break their nose and beat up their faces because they didn't even know it was happening.

Speaker 2 So the problem with that last video of the guy being knocked out was don't fight, man. Don't fight.
Don't fight. Martin Luther King was right.
Don't fight.

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Speaker 2 coming up in just about half an hour. He says that Donald Trump is going to win Pennsylvania when all is said and done.
Sidney Powell, who is the president's new attorney,

Speaker 2 she says they're going to be announcing some things in the next couple of days that she said will reverse millions of votes.

Speaker 2 Wow. I think that is possibly with the

Speaker 2 Dominion software. Have you been reading up in the Dominion software stuff? Yeah, I've heard some of it.

Speaker 2 Again, it'll be interesting to see what they can come up with.

Speaker 2 It's a tough road, but I think they're going to do everything they can, and they luckily have lots of resources to do it. I keep reading that everything's been debunked with Dominion software.

Speaker 2 It's all completely and thoroughly debunked.

Speaker 2 And yet I haven't seen any debunking about it. Will you do me a favor? Let me see if I can pull this up real quick.
I want you to go to

Speaker 2 the Dominion Wikipedia page.

Speaker 2 And just look for the

Speaker 2 recent changes. Okay.

Speaker 2 Here's what I find interesting.

Speaker 2 The stuff that has removed

Speaker 2 or has been changed

Speaker 2 all in just let me see if I can go for the next 100

Speaker 2 there are

Speaker 2 what is that okay so I'm there was at least 75 there's look at this this is all the changes just

Speaker 2 in November

Speaker 2 look at this November 16th all of these changes were made to their page deleting stuff

Speaker 2 you see this

Speaker 2 There's got to be 75 changes

Speaker 2 that have been

Speaker 2 made.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 the American Thinker has come out with some

Speaker 2 things where they were at the page before things were deleted. For instance, the origins of dominion in Venezuela and with Cuba gone now.

Speaker 2 If

Speaker 2 you look at the things that have been deleted and a lot of them, I mean, this is all coming from the left editing out.

Speaker 2 I mean, Wikipedia is bogus, but all of a sudden there was this great interest to make sure that some of this stuff didn't appear on Wikipedia at all.

Speaker 2 One of the interesting things about the Dominion thing, I think, is that it was really the left who were pushing that for a long time. Oh, yeah, yeah.
In 2019. Yeah, that was the thing.

Speaker 2 And so last year they were saying that. Here's the problem.
Here's the problem.

Speaker 2 If you tweet right now

Speaker 2 that

Speaker 2 just that story, that the Democrats were all over it, you will be flagged by Twitter.

Speaker 6 Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 2 That this is in dispute. Unreal.
Excuse me. This is the video of the Democrats saying that.

Speaker 2 I mean, it is absolutely amazing. By the way, that's why we're switching over to Parlor.

Speaker 2 I just started an account. Apparently, there's several Glenn Becks on Parlor.
I've been saying all sorts of stuff under your name for for a while.

Speaker 2 People hate you. I saw one.
Somebody sent one to me and said,

Speaker 2 you effing Trump supporters just need to. It was like, so clearly not me.

Speaker 2 But people were like, is this Glenn Beck? Is he drinking again? The answer to that one is. I wish.
Oh, they had you say

Speaker 2 you yelling at effing Trumping supporters. Yeah, so

Speaker 2 that's an odd

Speaker 2 choice.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but anyway, we're over there. And I'm

Speaker 2 we're just going to take a random selection of anybody who signs up today and comes over to Parlor and follows me on Parlor.

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Oh, okay. Three years.
That's great. It's a prison sentence when I tell you that Stu is on that program.
Yes. He's on Blaze TV.

Speaker 2 So is Pat Gray Unleashed, by the way. Which is like a lessening of that prison sentence, wouldn't you say? Yeah, I would.
So you two are going up against me on this one. Yep, yep.
You got it.

Speaker 2 You got it.

Speaker 2 So, Pat,

Speaker 2 what is in your pipe that you want to smoke?

Speaker 2 I'm trying not to smoke anymore.

Speaker 6 I've been doing too much of that.

Speaker 6 You know, like you, I was talking extensively today about the Million Man March.

Speaker 2 That wasn't a million people.

Speaker 2 There were nowhere near a million people. Wow.

Speaker 2 The crazy.

Speaker 6 You remember the Million Man March that had about 18 people?

Speaker 2 Nobody said it then.

Speaker 2 But the violence that was perpetrated, because all day long, the Trump supporters were completely peaceful.

Speaker 6 What were they doing? They were singing songs and waving flags, and they were having a good time and they were getting along with each other.

Speaker 6 And then, as soon as the evening came and the Antifa people and the BLM people came out and started sucker punching

Speaker 2 and going after moms who were pushing their kids in strollers and I it was just incredible incredible just unbelievable to me how

Speaker 2 and nobody cares CNN's not covering that MSNBC's not covering that it just didn't happen according to them that is the greatest that is the greatest thing they really truly believe if they don't publish it it didn't happen and in some cases it's kind of true it is true now that they have control of social social media.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Now that social media is controlling things.

Speaker 2 Did you see that

Speaker 2 there is a new poll out that shows people who voted for Biden, when they're informed about the questions of Biden and Hunter in China, say they wouldn't have voted for Joe Biden?

Speaker 2 See that? Yeah. I mean, if that's not election fraud, I don't know what is.
I mean,

Speaker 2 how do you possibly fight things?

Speaker 2 I don't, honestly, I don't know

Speaker 2 where to post truth. I can't go to Fox News.
Did you see the Fox News reporter this weekend that was going after the corrections? Yeah, can we play this? This is amazing.

Speaker 7 What do you want to have happen with those 700,000 votes? The ballots are already

Speaker 8 put 700,000 votes deducted.

Speaker 9 The whole conversation happens. You're trying to say this is done and over.

Speaker 8 I'm not. I'm asking.
I'm not done and over.

Speaker 8 I'm asking where you're going to find the votes legal ahead.

Speaker 8 Where are the votes to pull?

Speaker 9 This is now my third time to try to get this answer out. The legal path ahead exists here because there are clear constitutional violations that ahead.

Speaker 2 Keep snirking.

Speaker 8 You're making your hands and rolling your eyes, Lilith.

Speaker 8 I get it. I get it.

Speaker 8 You are spent years trying to rap a Russia hoax against

Speaker 8 it.

Speaker 2 Stop. I can't listen to it anymore.
That's every bit a CNN interview. It is.
Every bit. Fox is gone.

Speaker 2 If you are still listening to Fox, I mean, honestly, the only place I can go now on TV

Speaker 2 is us,

Speaker 2 Newsmax. I mean, I just, I use us.
I don't know who else to go to that I feel like really will tell the truth, even if I don't like it.

Speaker 2 I mean, where do you go?

Speaker 2 There is no, there is no place to watch. Yeah, except here.
Yeah. Except here.

Speaker 6 And where are the votes going to come from? To answer Leland's question, who I've never seen before, I don't know who that guy is.

Speaker 2 Are you familiar with him? No. I don't think I've ever seen him before.
No, I stopped watching Fox, though, like

Speaker 2 two years ago, three years ago.

Speaker 6 But in answer to his question of where the Trump votes are going to come from, they're going to come from vote switching, if that did happen, with the Dominion machines.

Speaker 6 They're going to come from dead people not voting. They're going to come from people not voting twice or 20 times or 30 times.

Speaker 2 That's where the Trump votes come from. I think the Dominion thing is really interesting.
Did you see, by the way, I was with Barry Lautermilk on Friday, and

Speaker 2 we were talking about what's happening in Georgia. He's the senator from Georgia.

Speaker 2 And we were talking about what's happening in Georgia. And he said the AG in Georgia is out of control.

Speaker 2 He's a Republican, but has been negotiating with Democrats without consulting the Republicans at all.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 he said

Speaker 2 there was a report before the election, like a week before or two weeks before the election, from door knockers for Trump up in these very, very Democratic areas in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 And they were going door to door and they were talking about Trump. And this Democratic area has now become very pro-Trump.
And so it's a lot of people who are on the Democratic rolls.

Speaker 2 but now are voting for Donald Trump. And they were told

Speaker 2 by several houses that they were getting calls from the Democratic Party telling them they were going to send them a Georgia ballot that they could vote in Georgia.

Speaker 2 And they were like, no, but I've never been to Georgia. I don't live in Georgia.
I've never.

Speaker 2 And they were like, no, it's okay now. You can, we're going to send it to you.
You can vote.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Now,

Speaker 2 so this was, this was reported to the Attorney General of,

Speaker 2 or the

Speaker 2 Secretary of State, I think, of Georgia.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 he didn't investigate it. Not a single, according to all the people underneath him.

Speaker 2 He didn't even make a phone call to follow up.

Speaker 2 And Lautermilk himself, I believe, was one of them that reported it and said, you know, you got to at least check into it.

Speaker 2 He didn't make a single phone call, nothing, according to all the people involved and people in his office. He may be forced to resign resign for dereliction of duty.

Speaker 2 We don't know if that happened, but you have a serious look into it. You have a serious crime reported before the election and you did nothing? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Laudermech was in the house, by the way. Not a Senate.
Oh, he's in the House.

Speaker 2 Did you also see that we've, I mean, speaking of the House,

Speaker 6 it looks like we're going to have a net gain of,

Speaker 6 well, Republicans are going to have a net gain of 10 congressmen. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It looks like at least. Yeah, I mean, it's at least.
This is what's, I mean, look, a lot of people are bringing this up.

Speaker 2 This is one of the things I think that people are questioning on the whole fraud thing because the Republicans did really well in this election.

Speaker 2 Much better than expected overall.

Speaker 2 It looks like Democrats are going to have potentially the smallest House margin since World War II.

Speaker 2 when it comes to

Speaker 2 this type of scenario where they're, I mean, when you win, when you knock out an incumbent president, if that

Speaker 2 winds up being what happens here,

Speaker 2 you usually have a big margin. I mean, look at Obama came in with this massive margin, right? Control of the House and the Senate and 60 senators.
Remember this?

Speaker 2 We are in a totally different world. I mean,

Speaker 2 as much as the Democrats want to say that the American people are with them, the American people keep saying over and over again. No, we're not.
No, we're not.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but here's the, again, the problem that I have: is you're telling me that Joe Biden got how many millions of votes more than Barack Obama did in 08?

Speaker 2 Well, that would be consistent with a very high-intensity election on both sides. Do you remember 08? That was

Speaker 2 a high-intensity. It was a watershed.
It was.

Speaker 2 And again, there was the same type of thing where John McCain had very little

Speaker 2 momentum behind him or very little interest. And I think the same is true with Biden.
I think, though, that Donald Trump after four years is very much a part of everyone's life.

Speaker 2 Everyone has a strong opinion on him. And so, like, I think the motivation for the left to come out in droves was to get him out of office.
I mean, they're burning down cities over the guy.

Speaker 2 You know, they had a lot of passion to get him out of office. And those don't usually look to me like the ones who go and vote, though.

Speaker 2 It's not like they take off their mask and, like, I'm going to be a responsible citizen now.

Speaker 2 Incredibly well organized. Yeah, no, they are.
And remember, it's not just Antifa members burning down cities. Yeah.
These are this had gone much, much more widespread.

Speaker 2 And remember, there were massive riots and rallies before the city started burning down. I want to leave you with one thing.

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Speaker 2 By the way, at the Big MAGA rally,

Speaker 2 do you remember from Project Veritas that video that came out, they were trying to get funding for this big thing that they were going to do over the summer?

Speaker 2 Riots would break out. And then for the election.
Listen, this woman here sitting at a table saying this.

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There is going to be a lot of people who are going to be able to do that.

Speaker 2 Thousands of people. Millions of people.
And millions. And then

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Speaker 2 But they were at the MAGA rally. They were saying that they were going to gather the numbers that would dwarf the million man march, that they would intimidate the million man march

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Speaker 2 on Friday that Donald Trump is going to win Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2 I heard him on Friday come out and say that if the Supreme Court hears the case,

Speaker 2 he believes that Trump will win the court case in Pennsylvania, which could

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Speaker 2 where you ever get your podcast. Alan Dershowitz, welcome.

Speaker 11 Well, thank you so much, Glenn. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 So tell me what your thoughts are on the election and

Speaker 2 how it's being handled right now.

Speaker 11 Well, there are two kinds of lawsuits. There are the wholesale and the retail.
The wholesale is reflected in the Pennsylvania case, where you have a legal challenge, a crystal clear legal challenge.

Speaker 11 The legislature said that ballots that are submitted before Election Day have to be received before the end of Election Day. The courts said no.
There are three extra days.

Speaker 11 The Constitution says only the legislature can make those decisions, not the courts. So that's a clean, clear, wholesale constitutional issue that the Supreme Court could resolve in a week.

Speaker 11 The case has already been filed in the Supreme Court. It just has to be re-filed.
And I think this Supreme Court would probably rule in favor of President Trump on that issue.

Speaker 2 So, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 2 How would somebody rule against? The Constitution is clear. It's the legislature.
And didn't the Supreme Court already rule in another case

Speaker 2 that the legislature had to do it and not the state officials?

Speaker 11 Yeah, in Bush versus Gore, they kind of suggested that. And

Speaker 11 there was a 4-4 vote previously on the Pennsylvania case. And Justice Alito

Speaker 11 asked, demanded that the votes that came in late after the close of Election Day had to be segregated, strongly implying that the court would rule in that direction.

Speaker 11 Look, there is a legal argument on the other side. The legal argument would go something like this.

Speaker 11 Of course, course, the Constitution says the legislature has to do it, but traditionally, courts interpret legislation. The answer to that is this wasn't really an interpretation.

Speaker 11 This was an expansion in light of COVID, and probably the court would rule that that expansion would have to come from the legislative, not the judicial branch.

Speaker 11 But the question is, does that get him enough votes? Right now, it seems like he may be as much as 60,000 votes behind.

Speaker 11 So the number of disputed ballots under this particular law has to exceed 60,000 before it could turn around the election.

Speaker 11 Now, if you combine that wholesale attack with some retail attacks, by retail I mean, you know, a few fraudulent ballots here and there, dead people voting, people who moved out of the state voting, you could conceivably get to a point.

Speaker 11 where the Pennsylvania vote would go the other way. Now, you'd need more than that because the goal of the Trump legal team is not to give Trump 270 votes.
That's out of the question.

Speaker 11 The goal is to keep Biden from getting 270 so that the election is thrown into the House of Representatives.

Speaker 11 The way to stop Biden from getting 270, according to the legal team, would be to have challenges in enough states, Pennsylvania, Georgia, maybe Arizona, Nevada, to bring him from 305 to 268, 267.

Speaker 11 If he doesn't get 270, it goes to the House, and the House votes by delegation. That is, each state gets one vote, and there are now more Republican delegations than there are Democratic delegations.

Speaker 11 So that's the theory. I'm not saying I'm advocating it.
I'm not saying I think it will win. I'm just telling you, that's the only route to victory at this point that I can see.

Speaker 2 Wow. So, Alan, you're saying that the Trump legal team says that their theory is they cannot get to 270 electoral votes?

Speaker 11 I'm just speculating. I don't see how they could get affirmatively to 270, but they don't need it.
All they need is to stop Biden from getting 270. That's the key.

Speaker 11 That's what happened in 1824 in the Andrew Jackson, John Quincy Adams matter. It's what happened essentially when we had the Tilden Hayes dispute.

Speaker 11 There are three instances in the 19th century where something like this happened. And then, of course, if you follow through the Jackson-Adams 1824, what happens?

Speaker 11 Jackson loses that, even though he won the popular and the electoral vote.

Speaker 11 And then for the next four years, he campaigned against, quote, the corrupt bargain, and he wins in 1828 and serves for eight years.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 let me

Speaker 2 go over this again with you. So

Speaker 2 he just needs to bring

Speaker 2 Biden down to 269 even.

Speaker 2 And then it goes to the House. And the House, they use delegations.
It's not just a straight vote. So

Speaker 2 how is that selected? What does that mean?

Speaker 11 Every delegation, say take Georgia.

Speaker 11 It may have, I don't know, 18, 12, 13, whatever members of Congress.

Speaker 11 If there are more Republican members of Congress from Georgia than

Speaker 11 Democrats, then the state gets to cast its vote for the Republican candidate. And the vote, all it needs is 51 states.

Speaker 11 So if you win 5149

Speaker 11 in the House of Representatives,

Speaker 11 then,

Speaker 11 or in that case, it would be in the House of Representatives, no, you'd have 50 states, so you'd have to win 26 votes. And if you get 26 votes, you elect the president.
And that happened in the past.

Speaker 11 Thomas Jefferson was elected by the House of Representatives, not by the Electoral College.

Speaker 2 How do you stop, I mean, how did they stop civil war at that point?

Speaker 11 The Constitution doesn't provide for that. In fact, we had a civil war in 1860, thus the Constitution didn't provide for that.

Speaker 11 I would hope good sense, common sense, would prevail and neither side would resort to arms. But I suspect that if you had that situation, there would be some violence.
I have no doubt about that.

Speaker 2 Alan, if they ⁇ you say they to try to lower Biden from 306 to, say, 269,

Speaker 2 those electoral votes then don't ⁇

Speaker 2 what would happen to those? If you're saying they're not affirmatively going to get Trump over

Speaker 2 270, what happens to those electoral votes?

Speaker 11 The Electoral College becomes irrelevant. The Constitution puts the Electoral College aside and says we now have it in the House of Representatives.
So the Electoral College vote is a null and void.

Speaker 2 okay wow okay so hang on just a second but those cases wouldn't they be decided i mean during bush uh v gore

Speaker 2 uh the the supreme court

Speaker 2 made decisive moves

Speaker 2 that it really sewed it up before the uh the state the states had to send their electoral college

Speaker 11 yep Had they not done that, had the Supreme Court deferred its decision,

Speaker 11 the case might have gone, the matter might have gone to the House of Representatives because neither candidate would have gotten 270.

Speaker 11 And that's what happened in the three 19th century elections that I referred to, actually four, Jefferson as well, that no candidate, remember in those days, you'd have four or five candidates running.

Speaker 11 In 1824, you had Henry Clay, you had somebody else, you had so I think there were five candidates, and they divided the electoral vote. Jackson got the most votes, but he didn't get half.

Speaker 11 According to the Constitution, you need a clear majority. If you don't get a clear majority, it goes to the House.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 one more on this. So, if the courts

Speaker 2 behooves,

Speaker 2 if you want this, and I think this would be really

Speaker 2 a powder keg that I wouldn't want to see lit.

Speaker 2 But if you wanted this to happen, it would behoove you then to

Speaker 2 file late or to keep the courts somehow or another tied up? Is that right? Because after, what, the 13th of December, are you saying that then it just automatically triggers?

Speaker 11 You don't have to file late. And remember, the wholesale suits can be decided on legal principles without a trial.
But if you claim there were 10,000 invalid ballots or if you follow

Speaker 11 what

Speaker 11 Sidney Powell said yesterday on Fox News and you challenge the computer saying the computers turned many votes that were supposed to be for Trump to Biden. That's the argument.

Speaker 11 If you make that argument, you have to prove it because that's an evidentiary argument, and that requires a trial. And if the court set down for trial

Speaker 11 all the challenged ballots in four or five states, you might accomplish that purpose because you couldn't have a trial and a result probably between now and mid-December. So you don't have to delay.

Speaker 11 All you have to do is ask for a trial. And under the Seventh Amendment to the Constitution, you have a right to trial by jury.
In any cases, that were tried by jury at common law.

Speaker 11 So it becomes very complicated. Look, if I were teaching at Harvard now, again, I stopped teaching five years ago, I retired,

Speaker 11 I would be teaching an entire seminar on this election. It raises so many intriguing constitutional questions.
I'm not advocating any particular result. I'm just giving you my constitutional analysis.

Speaker 2 The odds you think this might happen?

Speaker 11 Very low. You'd need a perfect storm.

Speaker 11 You'd need enough states where there were enough challenges to make the difference, and so that the courts would refuse, or the secretaries of state, some of which are Republican, would refuse to certify the votes so that the electors could be chosen.

Speaker 11 It would require a perfect swarm of both judicial, electoral, and political considerations to come come together. And the odds are very low.

Speaker 11 But it's the only possible road that President Trump has to victory, and it's a very unlikely one, which leads me to believe that he should. I'm not suggesting he secede or concede.

Speaker 11 I'm not suggesting that he stop his challenges, but I am strongly suggesting that he allow cooperation with the transition team because the likely outcome is going to be President Biden on January 20th.

Speaker 11 And if that is likely, there's no good reason why the transition can't go forward while the challenges are still being made and no concession is offered.

Speaker 2 The media says that

Speaker 2 once they call an election, they call an election.

Speaker 2 But they don't call it. Yeah, they don't call the election.

Speaker 2 This is just a.

Speaker 11 Biden is not officially the president-elect until and unless enough states certify the election result or the other candidate concedes.

Speaker 11 You don't get a president-elect through CNN or through Fox or through MSNBC. You get a presumptive president.
You call it what you want, but it's immediate term.

Speaker 11 Legally, the president-elect is picked only when those two circumstances are met. That is, sufficient states certify or the other side concedes.
Neither of those things has happened yet.

Speaker 2 Trevor Burrus, Jr.: And

Speaker 2 when you look at what the media is also saying about

Speaker 2 this is

Speaker 2 unheard of, that we don't do things like this in America,

Speaker 2 we've asked for recounts and we have challenged elections not necessarily in

Speaker 2 the modern era or the late modern era. as much as we did in the first 150 years, right? That's right.

Speaker 11 But we have also, Bush Bush versus Gore was a direct challenge. Look, I don't condemn the lawyers for doing this.

Speaker 11 I got an email the other day asking me to sign a petition to disbar the lawyers who are raising these issues. Just nonsense.

Speaker 11 You know, people wanted to disbar me because I defended President Trump on the floor of the United States Senate. You don't disbar lawyers for doing their job.

Speaker 11 I don't condemn the lawyers who are raising these arguments. They may lose.
They may win.

Speaker 11 Even I've lost some cases. You You know, that's what happens.
You don't always win your cases. You try your best to win.

Speaker 11 Look, every day I've been dealing with this complicated issue on my show, The Dirt Show, and I've been getting these intriguing calls from people coming up with interesting ideas for how to deal with this from both sides of the aisle, from the Democratic side and the Republican side.

Speaker 11 And it's a, you know, it's a fascinating issue. I think in the end, the victories that Trump receives will be Pyrrhic victories.

Speaker 11 He'll receive some victories, Pennsylvania may be other places, but they probably won't be enough to stop Vice President Biden from hitting the magic 270.

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Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 that wasn't necessarily good news.

Speaker 2 It was not a glowing endorsement, I would say, of the legal strategy going forward, or the hopes of it, at least.

Speaker 2 The look at the

Speaker 2 And Dershowitz is a guy who's been very much on the Trump side this entire time.

Speaker 2 So, you know, who knows what that means. And he wasn't saying that it wasn't going to work, but he did not seem hopeful.

Speaker 2 I think if, I mean, first of all, he said

Speaker 2 you have to have

Speaker 2 proof,

Speaker 2 and the voting machines, I keep reading, the problem is, is you don't have enough time to gather the evidence on the voting machines.

Speaker 2 So if the voting machines, if that, if they can show enough question to be able to file a legitimate, heavy

Speaker 2 court case on those voting machines, then perhaps you have something.

Speaker 2 And I mean, you know, the voting machines, what drives me nuts is if you retweet something on the Democrats in 2016 and 20, I think, 18 or 19, saying that these particular voting machines are bad and can throw an election,

Speaker 2 you look at that. And if you retweet it, you're marked as somebody who is retweeting falsehoods.
It's like, no, I'm retweeting Elizabeth Warren's testimony on it.

Speaker 2 Well, that's probably a falsehood if it's Elizabeth Warren's testimony. You know, this is the same, this type of scale is what they were looking to try to do in 2004.

Speaker 2 I mean, that was only one state, it was Ohio, but they were that was the Diebold

Speaker 2 voting machines, and they were saying they were switching all these votes.

Speaker 2 Huge exposés from every liberal magazine about how, look at these voting patterns and all these things that they're now saying election

Speaker 2 malfeasance and misleading and all of these other things. They were all doing in 2004.
I mean, none of this stuff stands out

Speaker 2 from the perspective of campaigns try to win elections. That's what they try to do.
And they're going to try everything they can to try to win this election.

Speaker 2 I tend to agree with Alan in that, you know, look, there's no reason, you know, Joe Biden can't get daily presidential updates as he's getting, as he's preparing for this transition.

Speaker 2 It doesn't have to happen. It's not going to be the end of the world.
Even Biden himself has said, we can still get through this without getting that stuff done.

Speaker 2 I mean, I'd like to see that stuff happen. Just, you know, who knows? Who knows how it turns out? I don't see why there's any reason why those things couldn't go on.
But still,

Speaker 2 it is a difficult road here. And we've tried to lay that out for people.
I think like we've had callers who've called up and said, like, I know he's going to win. I know he's going to win.

Speaker 2 It's going to be hard. I mean, think about it just from this perspective, Glenn.

Speaker 2 If you believe this was a fraudulent election and everything was,

Speaker 2 overturned, you're depending on a system that you believe is so corrupt. And now you're expecting that same system to overturn their corruption and bring it back to Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 It's going to be difficult.

Speaker 2 I think it's smart to look at that and say, this is a challenging battle. That does not mean you don't fight it, but it's a challenging battle.

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Welcome.

Speaker 2 Hey, how are you?

Speaker 11 I'm good. How are you, Glenn? Very good.
Glenn,

Speaker 11 I'm just confused. Maybe it's because I didn't see the videos of the

Speaker 11 assaults and fighting on Saturday. Yeah.
But when you said that Dr. King was right, we shouldn't fight.
Are you saying that

Speaker 11 we shouldn't initiate a fight, but we can defend ourselves?

Speaker 3 I'm not following.

Speaker 2 Yeah, okay. King didn't defend himself.
In fact, you were kicked off his marches if you defended yourself

Speaker 2 because he knew the power of the press, and he knew anytime anyone would take a swing, that's all the press would cover. And so he required you to take the beating.

Speaker 2 If you were going to walk with him, it didn't matter.

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Speaker 2 Alvida is the one who told me about this. She said, I was marching, and she said,

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Even, and she said, my best best friend was being beaten. He said, you knew.

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Speaker 2 And that was really the key to him winning. It is the same thing that Gandhi said.
It's the same approach Jesus took, but it's

Speaker 2 the same thing. If you're going into a crowd,

Speaker 2 you can't become aggressive, even if you're not the aggressor, just because that's all the media will cover. All they will show

Speaker 2 is

Speaker 2 that person taking a swing on the Donald Trump side. A strategic choice to try to convert others, to persuade others.
But that's not necessarily what you're advocating.

Speaker 2 You're not necessarily advocating people take clubs to the face, right? I mean, you certainly try to escape the situation at the very least, but

Speaker 2 you do defend yourself, right?

Speaker 2 Not with King or with Gandhi, no.

Speaker 2 You take it. So are you advocating that exact approach? I am advocating

Speaker 2 a modified approach.

Speaker 2 No, I'm advocating that if you can't take the punch, then

Speaker 2 you shouldn't go because

Speaker 2 they are looking for anything and everything,

Speaker 2 and they will blame any violence on us. Now, that is different than, you know, you can talk about self-defense, but this self-defense doesn't come into play, I think, if you're marching

Speaker 2 for this particular cause.

Speaker 2 If you're marching, I would take the Martin Luther King approach, that you can march right into the jaws of hell, but know that when the jaws of hell come gaping open for you, you chose to be there.

Speaker 2 Now, what message do you want to send? Because it's not about you.

Speaker 2 It really is. If you're marching, it is not about you.
It's about the message.

Speaker 2 If you are on the street and somebody pummels you because you're wearing a MAGA hat, that's a different story. Right.
But

Speaker 2 if you are marching with the group,

Speaker 2 you have to know it's no longer about you. It's about the message.
I'm part of a marching group that's burning down auto zones and Napa auto parts around the country.

Speaker 2 How do you feel about that tactic? I think. Well, I don't appreciate it myself, but hey.
It's non-violent. It seems to be winning the day.
It's very persuasive, apparently.

Speaker 2 You know, burn down targets and Wendy's, and people seem to give you really good media coverage these days. At some point, it feels

Speaker 2 hopeless when it comes to trying to convince the media to cover these things. The media is not going to cover it.
The media is not going to cover it, but you don't want to give them

Speaker 2 any free propaganda, essentially. What they'll do is the only thing they will cover is that.
So you can't do it.

Speaker 2 And you still have enough opportunities if people are taping to show who the aggressor is. And you can't have any confusion at all on who the aggressor is.

Speaker 2 Well, that's like what, you know, this is what's tough is like the Nicholas Sandman thing

Speaker 2 is a good example of this, right? He did. exactly what you'd advocate.

Speaker 2 And I will say, at the end of the day, and he wasn't getting beaten, of course, but at the end of the day, I think a lot of people

Speaker 2 were convinced the media was lying to them after that incident. I think I've talked to people who

Speaker 2 actually posted hateful screeds against this kid and then were like, whoa, I didn't see this whole thing. I didn't see this whole video.
They didn't show it to me.

Speaker 2 Now that I've seen the whole video, we need to revise what we said initially. And

Speaker 2 being on the right side of the truth is a big part of this. And if it's not, we're screwed anyway.

Speaker 2 At the end of the day, if the tech companies are going to censor everything that we put out there that's that's true, we're in big trouble as it is. That's why, if verbally,

Speaker 2 if you are in a verbal fight, Kavanaugh was a verbal fight that was played, I think, like Martin Luther King would have played it.

Speaker 2 There was no,

Speaker 2 you remember, during the testimony, the Republicans did not go after her with scorched earth. The Democrats went after him, scorched earth.
Do anything to destroy. The Republicans were kind to her.

Speaker 2 And then what happened? After everybody was kind on the right,

Speaker 2 that's when Kavanaugh stood up and he had righteous indignation

Speaker 2 and he didn't blast anything other than the system and the lies.

Speaker 2 This is not true.

Speaker 2 And that's what turned the hearts of people. People like an underdog.
People like the little guy. They don't like people fighting in the streets.

Speaker 2 And when you have two people, you know, it's like, it's almost America has turned into,

Speaker 2 you know, the Denny's syrup fights. You remember those fights that started like at Denny's all the time about five years ago?

Speaker 2 We always seem to be seeing fights with these people that were just pulling each other's hair and going crazy. Remember? Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's almost like America has turned into that. And only the person that would be like, dude, dude, dude, it's maple syrup.
It's maple syrup. It's just maple syrup.
You can have it.

Speaker 2 I'm not fighting you over it. Then you know quickly who the good guy is, who the bad guy is.
And you have to make a first impression every single time. You can't give them any fuel.

Speaker 2 I get what you're saying, but I will not rest until every auto part store is burned to the ground.

Speaker 2 If another air filter is sold in this country, I am calling for a revolt.

Speaker 2 Well, that's what's great about America.

Speaker 2 We can all have different points of view and we can all peacefully burn down auto parts. That's true.

Speaker 2 Mostly peacefully. Mostly, mostly peacefully.
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Welcome to the Glenbeck Program.

Speaker 3 Thank you, sir. Mr.
Beck, I have a lot of respect for you and your show. Loved it for decades now.
Thank you.

Speaker 11 But

Speaker 3 I think you've contradicted yourself some here

Speaker 3 in your statements from a few moments ago.

Speaker 3 I've heard you talk about the Holocaust and what if instead of just quietly obeying authority,

Speaker 3 the Jews in Germany and Europe would have fought back.

Speaker 3 And while I agree, I abhor violence. Having served, I understand what it means to take a life in violence.
But whether or not you're in a march, if we don't defend ourselves now and vigorously,

Speaker 3 I fear we're on the start of the long, dark night.

Speaker 2 So why are you? Modern progressive.

Speaker 3 Go ahead.

Speaker 2 No, go ahead.

Speaker 3 I don't feel, I'm not equating the modern progressive left with, you know, Stalin and Pol Pot and Hitler.

Speaker 3 But the start of all of these movements, be it Gentile or Marxism, fascism or communism, always, always historically end up the same way.

Speaker 3 And if we don't hold our ground now, I can see six million conservatives in re-education camps in the next 10 years.

Speaker 2 So I could tell you, Woody, that I could play that scenario out and arrive exactly at the same place. Here's where I think we disagree.
You're talking about a march.

Speaker 2 What is the goal of a march?

Speaker 3 Depending on the march itself, the goal of a march is to support an ideal, a cause, or a person. In this case, the march was to support the MAGA movement and the president.

Speaker 2 Okay. And is it just to ⁇

Speaker 2 so are you just sending one message to one man, or is there a reason why it's very, very public?

Speaker 3 There's a reason it's a public. The message is meant for the entire nation.

Speaker 3 And I understand and agree with your philosophy that the media, if we use violence to counter violence, the media is going to portray our side or my side, the conservative side, in the worst light.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they're going to do it anyway.

Speaker 3 That's my point.

Speaker 3 It would be different if the media were portraying things fairly. It doesn't matter if we fight back or not.

Speaker 3 I read the headlines this morning and yesterday, and they all imply that it was the MAGA, the Trump supporters, the conservatives that started the violence.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 And so

Speaker 2 here's the problem. The march.
Now, I'm talking about a march. I'm not talking about defending your country.
I'm not talking about defending

Speaker 2 yourself as an individual. Somebody comes on my property and they wish me ill will or my family ill will.

Speaker 2 I am going to defend myself and my family, and I will do it as violently as necessary.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I want you to know. I'm separating things out, and we're talking specifically about marches.

Speaker 2 A march, the reason we do marches, is to send a message to those people in America, not the press, not to anybody else, but to get someone's heart to change.

Speaker 2 To see that and go, huh, that's not what I thought it was.

Speaker 2 When that happens, That's a successful march. Now, the media has done everything they can to the Tea Party and everybody else for a long time, but we made a huge impact.

Speaker 2 And if you don't believe me, talk to Barack Obama. Barack Obama

Speaker 2 started his own organization to bring down Donald Trump because of the Tea Party. He said the Tea Party was so effective at harming his agenda and slowing them down.

Speaker 2 That's why you get so much pushback on it. But it is critical that the

Speaker 2 marches

Speaker 2 remain peaceful always,

Speaker 2 and it requires great discipline. But it's not because you're going out that you should not march if you're angry and

Speaker 2 you just want whatever.

Speaker 2 No, you're doing a march for the reason to change people's hearts, to show support for something that you believe in.

Speaker 2 And what you believe in is the Constitution and rule of law and goodness and that America is great and can be made even greater than it has been in the past.

Speaker 2 That won't be the message if you strike back. If you don't

Speaker 2 and somebody strikes you,

Speaker 2 that will be seen.

Speaker 2 And Americans don't like bullies.

Speaker 2 They don't like what's happening with BLM.

Speaker 2 Look at the ratings of BLM. They were in the 70s.
Their approval ratings were in the 70s, just a few months ago. They're in the 20s or 30s now.
Why?

Speaker 2 Because Americans started to see that they were violent, even though the press the entire time said they weren't.

Speaker 2 Everyone in the press has been doing the opposite of what they've done to the Tea Party and to MAGA supporters.

Speaker 2 But look what's happening. Look at just...

Speaker 2 Go ahead.

Speaker 3 You're making excellent points, and overall, I agree with you. I think

Speaker 3 you're being a little bit naive, though, sir, when you think that out of 100,000, 200,000, 300,000 people going to a march, a lot of those people aren't driven to the march because of the anger of what they're seeing happening to the Constitution and the nation.

Speaker 3 I've been to marches, and sometimes I've been angry, sometimes I haven't been.

Speaker 3 I just do not, and I don't think this is a point we can agree on, even though I have a world of respect for your position and your points.

Speaker 3 When it comes to a time when the nation is literally, I believe, in peril, I do too.

Speaker 3 When you're at a march demonstrating and peacefully demonstrating and cleaning up like we did the last time on the mall, we left less trash than when we got there.

Speaker 11 I know.

Speaker 3 If we are violently attacked, then we have to defend ourselves. Unfortunately,

Speaker 3 we cannot count on the police department in Washington, D.C. to defend us.

Speaker 2 I don't think, Woody, and I respect you, and

Speaker 2 I could be wrong on this. This is just my opinion.
But I've read a lot of Martin Luther King, Gandhi, and Jesus. And

Speaker 2 I don't think it's naive. If you think you are more angry at injustice than

Speaker 2 those black people in the South that had fire hoses opened up and dogs sicked on them.

Speaker 2 I think you're mistaken. I think

Speaker 2 that was years and years and years of taking it. And that's what Martin Luther King said.
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Speaker 2 And I know you're not suggesting a Malcolm X approach, but he was the opposite. Swing back.

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It's Monday, and we've got a lot to report. A lot of people went to the march over the weekend, including Elijah Schaefer.
He was there,

Speaker 2 and he has a lot to report. It's not exactly what the media is reporting.
Surprise, surprise. Elijah Schaefer was there, as were the Blaze cameras.
We go to him in 60 seconds.

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Speaker 2 We go now to Mr.

Speaker 2 Elijah Schaefer,

Speaker 2 who is, of course, part of Blaze TV. He's the Blaze TV host of Slightly Offensive,

Speaker 2 and just slightly.

Speaker 2 I've never seen anything offensive at all. You know, Elijah.
I don't know why he keeps saying he's slightly offensive.

Speaker 2 Anyway, he was there at the DC Million MAGA March,

Speaker 2 and he has this to report. Hello, Elijah.

Speaker 11 Hello, Glenn and Stu. How are you guys doing? Good.

Speaker 2 Are you still in D.C.?

Speaker 13 You know, I just got back to Dallas. Thank God.
That is definitely a swamp, so I'm happy to be home.

Speaker 2 Yeah, good. So tell me about the march.

Speaker 13 You know, despite reports, I know when I woke up, there was already disinformation. People were taking pictures at 7 a.m.
saying that there was a low turnout.

Speaker 13 People were uploading black and white pictures of Nazi Germany saying that, you know, these were some some low-res images of people gathering

Speaker 13 I mean that was no shocker there but by about 10 o'clock you already saw maybe 10,000 or more people gathering together and the group had gotten so large that I didn't realize how big it was until not only could I not find my team but we couldn't even get hold of each other because self-service completely stopped working in the area there were families every type of group that was out there despite reports it was not full of militias and proud boys and different groups that they want to try to use to say that these are who were leading the event.

Speaker 13 Some of these people were there. I have no problem with them at all.

Speaker 13 But this was 95 to 99%, just families, people who love America, chanting

Speaker 13 USA, waving American flags, giving a lot of love. There was every race, sexual orientation there.

Speaker 13 This was a march of unity, a march of love. And when they talk about a time to heal, these are the people that I would trust to do that.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 we were just having a discussion, and the audience may be upset with me

Speaker 2 because I believe marches are to change people's hearts. It's not for the individual to march.
It's not for

Speaker 2 anything else. It's to send a message.
And you are sending a message of support to Donald Trump, but you are also sending a message to the American people.

Speaker 2 Now, whether they see that or not through the media doesn't matter. And we know that the media is

Speaker 2 actually

Speaker 2 not effective anymore. People are seeing through their lies.

Speaker 2 And so when somebody is

Speaker 2 attacked, do you believe, I believe it is absolutely their right

Speaker 2 to defend themselves. But are you more of a Martin Luther King guy or

Speaker 2 not?

Speaker 13 No,

Speaker 13 I know as a member of the press, I have to be a little bit more careful not to fight back because when it comes to especially right-wing media, they want us to seem like we're violent or agitators.

Speaker 13 And so I try to de-escalate as much as possible. But it is in the rights of Americans to defend themselves.
And I will say this:

Speaker 13 earlier on in the day, I recorded multiple assaults.

Speaker 13 Anti-Trump protesters were targeting individuals. I've actually recorded at least four arrests of anti-Trump protesters.

Speaker 2 I might.

Speaker 2 What were they doing, Elijah?

Speaker 13 Throwing full water bottles at the heads of Trump supporters walking by, throwing rocks, projectiles,

Speaker 13 and including one individual who was, you know, he was a white liberal Biden supporter. This is how it always is.
I mean, your listeners know he was a white liberal Biden supporter.

Speaker 13 He had anti-Trump signs talking about Biden, yelling insults and derogatory slurs at a first-generation Mexican-American immigrant woman.

Speaker 2 You know, who she is. The world is upside down, man.

Speaker 2 It is totally upside down.

Speaker 13 Well, yeah, and we know, and that's what this is. And I asked him, hey, man, so what are you out here doing?

Speaker 13 And he immediately assaulted me by smashing his bicycle up against me and hitting me in the head with his bike helmet on,

Speaker 13 head-butting me. And I'm just going to say this.
When the media says that the Trump supporters were inciting violence, I guess they meant asking people questions, walking down the street.

Speaker 13 I mean, at this point to the media, Trump supporters can do no right. And I think that's why they took matters into their own hands, because police,

Speaker 13 I'll tell you this, you know, with some connections in the police department, police were in some way standing down.

Speaker 13 They were looking more for ways to cite or to keep like a zero tolerance policy to keep Trump supporters in line.

Speaker 13 And I can definitely tell you the police were not helping Trump supporters who were getting attacked.

Speaker 13 In fact, when Trump supporters would get surrounded by Black Black Lives Matter activists and Antifa, even when they were one half block away from their hotel, the police would block them and make them go back around through the lines of the anti-Trump protesters.

Speaker 11 So, police were coercing

Speaker 13 the Trump supporters into the line of attack.

Speaker 13 So, if you're putting that position where law enforcement isn't protecting you and you're forced to go through an area of antagonism, if you don't have the right to defend yourself, then what right do you have?

Speaker 2 Wow, that is that's really bad. That is really bad.

Speaker 2 Thank you so much. I appreciate it, Elijah.
All of his

Speaker 2 video, everything, you can see it on Blaze TV or BlazetheBlaze.com, our news site. And I urge you to

Speaker 2 watch it. That's an interesting conversation.
Going back to our previous one, because you mentioned this here, and I don't think you said this before.

Speaker 2 Is it morally justifiable for you to defend yourself when you're in the middle of a march and being attacked? It is my God-given right to defend myself at all times.

Speaker 2 I don't care if I'm standing next to the Pope. If the Pope starts to assault me, it's my God-given right to defend myself.
The Pope has a really nasty left uppercut.

Speaker 2 Have you ever seen a picture of that? Have you ever seen this guy?

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. This guy's not only a socialist, but he's a fighter.

Speaker 2 As if those things are more

Speaker 2 in opposition to each other.

Speaker 2 But like, you're saying that it's not a

Speaker 2 question of moral justification. It's a question of the best strategy to

Speaker 2 accomplish your goals.

Speaker 2 If you're in the march, see, I even separate the people that he said as they were going to their hotels, police blocked them in. They needed to get through.

Speaker 2 They were being forced to go through a hostile crowd. Well, I don't recommend that you take them on, but

Speaker 2 I would do everything I could to escape. But if you have to defend yourself there to get out, that's fine.

Speaker 2 But in the march, in the march, if somebody is doing something, you are part of a group that is trying

Speaker 2 to have a well-crafted narrative. And that narrative is aimed right to that

Speaker 2 suburban woman who is seeing things go on in her area, believes the press, has no reason to doubt. You need the videos that

Speaker 2 appeal to her, where she sees the truth. How many times have you met somebody who said, you know, when the Kavanaugh thing happened, I started really paying attention and

Speaker 2 I started doing my own homework and I started listening to other people. That's what a march is for, is to get them one image, one thing that makes them say,

Speaker 2 I wonder what this is about because I don't think this isn't reflecting the violence that everybody is saying it is. That's what happened with BLM.
The media was saying they're not violent.

Speaker 2 They're not violent. They're not violent.
Well, everybody could see they were.

Speaker 2 Soon as the night went down, it was violence. And they could see that.
And so they started doing their own thinking and their own work. That's the point of these marches.

Speaker 2 The media is doing the opposite to these marches and to any Trump supporter that they're doing to Black Lives Matter. The people saw for themselves and they refused to deny what their eyes told them.

Speaker 2 So you need to be extraordinarily disciplined. Look, this is not my strategy.
This is Gandhi, Martin Luther King. And so it is morally, absolutely right.

Speaker 2 And you're justified to defend yourself. You are.
Somebody throwing rocks at your head? If you're in fear for your life or you're in danger, you have every right to defend yourself. Morally.

Speaker 2 I'm talking strategically.

Speaker 2 Because it's interesting because you can, I think, hear in Elijah him making that same choice in a different area.

Speaker 2 Because Elijah would be absolutely morally justified to fight back himself as a human being when he's attacked.

Speaker 2 But as he said, I have to be very careful about that because of conservative media and they will paint all conservative media members as hate-mongering, violent people if I do that.

Speaker 2 So he holds back and doesn't do that. And the question is, I guess, if that's the message you're trying to send or not.

Speaker 2 Well, I'm not in charge of these marches. So, you know,

Speaker 2 I'm saying on a personal level, making that choice. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 if I were doing these marches,

Speaker 2 I would do what we did in

Speaker 2 Birmingham. And everybody said, why are you doing this? We had you take the pledge of nonviolence from Martin Luther King to march with us.
I didn't do it because we were going to come under attack.

Speaker 2 I did it to start planting the seeds that that's the kind of discipline you're going to need in the future. And

Speaker 2 here we are. I want to make it really clear.

Speaker 2 We're trying to save the country.

Speaker 2 So we fight in the courts. We fight every legal means that we can possibly do.

Speaker 2 We fight online. We fight for our children in schools.
We stand up. I am not saying that you become soft or you're not outspoken.
You must be outspoken. You have to stand.
You have to stand.

Speaker 2 There are no sidelines here.

Speaker 2 But a march

Speaker 2 is a strategic event.

Speaker 2 And you have to understand the strategy of what that's trying to do.

Speaker 2 That's one piece of a strategy to save your country.

Speaker 2 And if someone, if these, if, if Antifa came to my house and they were going to come to my house,

Speaker 2 I'm going to use my God-given right because they're attacking my house. And if it means I go to jail like that couple in Georgia may go to jail, well, so be it.
They had every right to stand.

Speaker 2 Was it Georgia? St. Louis? Yeah.
St. Louis.
They had every right to stand in front of of their house and say, get

Speaker 2 out of my property.

Speaker 2 You're climbing over the fence. We are in fear for our life.
They had every right to defend themselves.

Speaker 2 You're threatening me and my house. You're threatening my country.
I'm going to stand. You take my country.

Speaker 2 You take my country.

Speaker 2 I'm going to stand. It's true.
You know, it's interesting because I think it is a difficult battle for people to wage because people will look at this and say, I'm sick of this.

Speaker 2 I'm sick of people pushing me around. But if you look at one of the probably the best,

Speaker 2 the most successful conservative sort of one of these stories that's worked out on the right side of truth here was probably Nicholas Sandman, right?

Speaker 2 I mean, to the extent that he's extracted millions of dollars from major media organizations.

Speaker 2 And the reason was there was absolutely no doubt what he did was right because he just stood there and he took insults.

Speaker 2 People were, people, I mean, remember, people were saying all sorts of terrible things about him. Guy getting in his face and he stood there without doing anything.
And that strategically.

Speaker 2 Strategically. It was the right thing to do.
And I don't know. In that moment, I don't know what he was thinking, but I mean, he didn't cross that line.

Speaker 2 It's a difficult, it's a difficult balance because, you know, I mean, as a human being, you have those real emotions and

Speaker 2 those real battles, I think, internally. How do you handle those? Because you're not going to be able to keep

Speaker 2 a giant group from having some people who break those.

Speaker 2 King King did.

Speaker 2 King was able to do that.

Speaker 2 He had marchers that were captains. He had everybody broken down to like a certain number of people per captain.

Speaker 2 And that captain marched with in the line with their with his you know 25 or 50 people and he was and that captain was stay in line stay in line stay in line as they were shouting things throwing things at them stay in line and it is only because they were willing to be

Speaker 2 look

Speaker 2 this didn't work in Germany because they lost

Speaker 2 their faith in Christ the Judeo-Christian values were lost in Germany and that's when you had Bonhoeffer stand up, who was a pacifist and a preacher, said Jesus is the way to go.

Speaker 2 Gandhi is the way to go. But he changed because the people had lost Christ.

Speaker 2 We haven't lost Christ. Gandhi knew he was fighting against England and the Judeo-Christian world that understood the peacemaker.

Speaker 2 That's why he was successful. We're not in a position where we have lost the Judeo-Christian prince.
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Speaker 2 And that message will still work for that suburban woman who is frightened for her children, doesn't know who to trust. Give her

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Speaker 2 and someone to trust.

Speaker 2 And by the way, this is not a slam on the MAGA march. I thought it was good.
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Speaker 2 Let me go to Rick in Indiana. Hi, Rick.

Speaker 12 Hey, good morning to everybody, and thank you for taking my call. You bet.

Speaker 12 I'll be very brief. I, like many that were there, spent a fairly large amount of hard-earned money for last-minute travel to attend.

Speaker 12 And I went for one reason, and it was to say thank you to a president who stood up for so many of the things that I value.

Speaker 12 And I've got a handful of observations. If you're interested, I'll share them.
I am.

Speaker 12 Well,

Speaker 12 it was exceptionally peaceful.

Speaker 12 And I'd use the word loving.

Speaker 12 There were times where we held hands in mass, bowed our heads in prayer.

Speaker 12 All faiths were welcomed.

Speaker 12 Of course, there were American flags, Israeli for Trump flags, Hong Kong for Trump flags. I even saw a

Speaker 12 Filipinos for Trump flag.

Speaker 12 And the crowd ranged from white-collar to bikers.

Speaker 12 And Stu will be thrilled to learn that I even saw a couple gay pride for Trump flags.

Speaker 2 Well, Stu is the gay character on the show, as you know, Rick. Jesus Protection.

Speaker 2 It's a big pen.

Speaker 2 Well, I am so glad to hear this. I will tell you, Rick, that

Speaker 2 I love going into conservative crowds when they are like they were this weekend.

Speaker 2 It is an inviting, loving circle. It really is.

Speaker 12 Yes, it was.

Speaker 12 It was exactly what I needed. It lifted my spirits.

Speaker 12 Regardless of how this election ends up, it lifted my spirits.

Speaker 2 What a great way to look at it, too, that you wanted to go and say thank you to

Speaker 2 a man who stood for you.

Speaker 2 That's a great way to do it.

Speaker 12 May I share a humorous moment before I

Speaker 2 real quick. I have 30 seconds.

Speaker 12 Yeah, very quick. This will take less than that.

Speaker 12 So there was a rare moment where the crowd got a little quiet when we were assembled listening to the speakers, and a lone voice somehow rose above the tens of thousands and shouted out, release the kraken.

Speaker 2 And everybody just bellowed with laughter.

Speaker 2 God bless you, man. Thank you, Rick.
In Indiana, appreciate your call. 888-727-BECK.

Speaker 2 I'm going to take you to a very fun, very, very fun place

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Speaker 2 Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 I have to tell you,

Speaker 2 I look up.

Speaker 2 I have all these televisions in front of me.

Speaker 2 One of them is split screen so I can watch all of the networks and the cable news networks. And I look up into the corner of one, and it said,

Speaker 2 conservatives blast big tech over perceived violence or perceived bias. And I look at Stu and I said,

Speaker 2 How is this perceived bias at this point? And then I just thought about it for a second. I went, wait a minute, that's the upper right-hand corner.
That's Fox. That's coming from Fox.

Speaker 2 I thought that was like an MSNBC headline. Yeah.
No, that's where we are, apparently. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 We played the video earlier. Can we play the video of

Speaker 2 Fox from the weekend just a little bit? I saw this.

Speaker 7 What do you want to have happen with those 700,000 votes? The ballots are already.

Speaker 2 That's the anchor of the potential.

Speaker 8 You just put 700,000 votes to dunk.

Speaker 9 We are making sure that conversation happens. You're trying to say this is done and over.

Speaker 8 I'm not. I'm asking.
I'm not done and over.

Speaker 8 I'm asking you where you're going to find the votes.

Speaker 8 Oh, my gosh. Where are the votes to pull?

Speaker 9 This is now my third time to try to get this answer out. The legal path ahead exists here because there are clear constitutional violations that have to be.

Speaker 2 Stop.

Speaker 2 That is, that's this new Fox News. I saw that this weekend, and I thought there's no reason to ever, ever check them ever again.

Speaker 2 I mean, they have become so quickly, they have, and do you think it's that they're covering their ass?

Speaker 2 Maybe, I don't know. I mean, you know, look,

Speaker 2 Fox has always had Democrats on the air. But no, not like this is this is a change in direction.
Yeah, it does seem like

Speaker 2 they're making a statement of some sort here. I mean, it could be that

Speaker 2 they're trying to do that, but it's like that's been the opposite of what they've done the entire time. Now, remember, you go back, and this is the time when Roger Ailes was there, right?

Speaker 2 Like, Roger had a real worldview and wanted to, and it had a belief that there was a large section of the American populace that couldn't get their viewpoint represented.

Speaker 2 There still is. And there still is.

Speaker 2 There still is. But Roger's not there anymore.
You know what I mean? So

Speaker 2 it's a different.

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Speaker 2 By the way, speaking of Fox News, I was listening to Janice Dean,

Speaker 2 who is, I think she's the weather anchorologist. Yes.
Meteorologist.

Speaker 2 And I heard her on the Megan Kelly show, and she was talking about your favorite subject, Cuomo. Did you hear this? Yeah, a little bit.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Okay, so I'm listening to Megan Kelly, and all of a sudden spilling out into my house is this.

Speaker 14 This guy, Stu Berg here at the Blaze, he did a great timeline of Governor Cuomo and like all the crap that President Trump got for allegedly mishandling COVID, which really kind of led to his problems in this election.

Speaker 14 You know, if you look at the number one issue for the majority of voters, it was COVID. And the people for whom that was an issue voted against him.

Speaker 14 He did like a little timeline on Cuomo. And I just, I did a couple of bullets.
I'm just going to read for the audience so you understand.

Speaker 14 This is what happened from the guy who's just published a book being touted by the media on leadership lessons in handling COVID.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 14 3-2, March 2nd. He says, New Yorkers are worrying too much about this.
3-4, March 4th, the pandemic is being caused by fear. 3-6, more people are dying from the flu than from COVID.

Speaker 14 Remember how that was awful to say? Well, he said it. March 8th, go on the subway.
March 9th, this fear is unwarranted.

Speaker 14 March 11th, his brother, Chris Cuomo, after a six-year ban and interviewing his brother, is now allowed to interview him, and it's a joke. No hard questions.

Speaker 14 March 12th, there's not going to be any quarantine. March 18th, there's not going to be a quarantine.
There is not going to be a shelter-in-place order order for New York.

Speaker 14 March 19th, no shutdown is coming.

Speaker 2 March 20th, New York is shutting down.

Speaker 14 Literally, the day after he said no shutdown is coming, it happened. And it came three days after he slammed New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio for even suggesting that there would be a shutdown.

Speaker 14 And as Stu points out, it's very hard to be on the wrong end of an argument with Mayor de Blasio, but Governor Cuomo found a way to do it.

Speaker 14 Okay, then March 24th, once again, with Chris Cuomo yucking it up about how funny and funny and, you know, so much levity at such a good time.

Speaker 14 The very next day, he issues that order that you could easily make the case directly led to over 6,000 deaths of seniors.

Speaker 14 March 29th, that's when the people were jumping up and down saying, this is dangerous, this is dangerous. He didn't listen.

Speaker 14 And now he's out there celebrating himself as the media enables his being anointed as this politician, America's governor, perhaps a cabinet member, perhaps even a president. It's gross.

Speaker 2 So that was Stu doing show prep for Megan Kelly.

Speaker 2 We did the timeline on the show, Janice. No, no, I know.
It was from an op-ed piece in the New York Post.

Speaker 2 And I bring this up not only because I thought it was cool that

Speaker 2 they were talking about it.

Speaker 2 And Janice Dean, I got to get her on because she's fantastic. She's more hot than you are on this show.
Yeah, she lost.

Speaker 2 I mean, her husband's, both of their parents died seemingly directly because of what Andrew Cuomo did in New York. She is.
And

Speaker 2 she has been

Speaker 2 in front of this the entire time. She's absolutely fearless talking about this stuff.
And in New York, it's not easy.

Speaker 2 I mean, she's talked about how people have said, hey, we really, we understand what you're saying about Cuomo, but watch your back. I mean, that is like,

Speaker 2 it is a tough place for her to stand up, and she's done it over and over and over again. Thank God, because honestly, without her, I don't know that anyone would even be talking about this.

Speaker 2 I mean, we've been blabbing about it on Studos America for a while, but you know,

Speaker 2 it's tough to get that out. And she's been really, really brave with this stuff.
Janice Dean. We have to see if she'll come on because

Speaker 2 she's fantastic. And the two of you,

Speaker 2 it's kind of like.

Speaker 2 Don't cross the streams. I'm not sure if every cell in our body will suddenly turn inside out.

Speaker 2 Well, it's so frustrating, Glenn, because it's not just that he had the worst single coronavirus response in the world. It's not just that.

Speaker 2 It's that he also is constantly bragging about it and constantly lying about it. And then at the same time, getting universal praise over it.
Like, Glenn, there's absolutely no disagreement with this.

Speaker 2 Andrew Cuomo.

Speaker 2 Andrew Cuomo

Speaker 2 came out and has said

Speaker 2 that he passed this order to put people, import, COVID-positive patients into

Speaker 2 nursing homes. And we know this is responsible for thousands of deaths likely.
But we know for 100% he did that order, right?

Speaker 2 We also know New York is the only state in the union that does not count nursing home deaths of people who were in the nursing home and got really sick and they took him to the hospital and then he died in the hospital.

Speaker 2 Every other state in the union counts them correctly and says those are nursing home people. That's where they got the COVID.
So we should count them as nursing home deaths.

Speaker 2 Only, only New York does the opposite, right?

Speaker 2 So step back from that for a second and then realize that when pressed on the on part number one, where he passed this order about nursing homes, he uses the low number of nursing home deaths in New York as his defense.

Speaker 2 Now, he is the only state in the Union that calculates the deaths this way.

Speaker 2 So the only reason his deaths are low is because he's lying to New York and lying to the American people about how many people have died in these nursing homes.

Speaker 2 And he uses that literally as his defense. His lie is his defense for his murderous actions in the state.
Okay, well, let me just, I don't want to set you off.

Speaker 2 I don't want to set you off. But let me tell you what he's doing now.
Okay. He announced this yesterday.
He's going to, do you know this?

Speaker 2 He's going to take legal action against the Trump administration to ensure the equitable distribution of the vaccine in New York.

Speaker 2 The Trump administration, this is a quote, is designing the distribution plan, and their plan basically has private health care companies administer the vaccines.

Speaker 2 The president talks about CVS and Walgreens and national chains, sure,

Speaker 2 but they're mainly located in rich communities.

Speaker 2 Really?

Speaker 2 CVS and Walgreen?

Speaker 2 That's a rich community kind of thing? Okay. Not in poor communities.
There's 10,000 CVSs.

Speaker 2 No, no.

Speaker 2 Those are all in rich communities. I know when I go look for a house, I'm like,

Speaker 2 does it have a CVS nearby? And they're like.

Speaker 2 There's 10.

Speaker 2 Of course,

Speaker 2 Muffin. Of course,

Speaker 2 of course there's a CVS nearby. And a Walgreens.
It's right next to Tiffany's.

Speaker 2 CVS, Tiffany's Walgreens, all in a row.

Speaker 2 There's 9,277 Walgreens in the United States and 10,000 CVSs. I will say, they're usually right across the street from each other, in my experience, for some reason.

Speaker 2 I've seen them in good parts of town. I've seen them in bad parts of town.

Speaker 2 There's pharmacies all over the place. Well, listen, he says this.
The president talks about CVS and Walgreens and national changes. Sure.

Speaker 2 but they're mainly located in rich communities, not in poor communities. My friends, I'm still quoting, we cannot compound the racial injustice that COVID has already created.

Speaker 2 Let me be clear: the black and brown communities that were first on the list of those who died cannot be last on the list who received the vaccine.

Speaker 2 Look at him try to play up to these progressive communities. I know.

Speaker 2 So he, the state, is joining the NAACP and the Urban League in an attempt to correct the problems that he sees.

Speaker 2 I've tried to work with the Trump administration and argue morality in principle for four years. Oh, stop it.
You're better off to argue with a rock. But it's not just about morality.

Speaker 2 There can be no more fundamental right in this moment than access to the vaccine.

Speaker 2 Any plan that intentionally burdens communities of color to hinder access to the vaccine deprives those communities of equal protection under the law, and equal protection is enshrined in the Constitution of the United States.

Speaker 2 This guy is the worst. I am going to vomit.
The worst.

Speaker 2 When you talk about equitable treatment and

Speaker 2 no extra barriers, what was his wording there? Because you don't want to have any extra hurdles to get the vaccine to people.

Speaker 2 Maybe then implementing your own state's secondary checkup on Donald Trump's vaccine procedure would not be a wise way to go.

Speaker 2 For example, like if it's passed all the muster of the scientific experts and the FDA and all the things that it has to, all the hurdles that it has to clear in the Trump administration through Operation Warp Speed to get this sort of emergency use authorization, to get approval.

Speaker 2 If it passes those, Cuomo has said, you know what? I don't know if it's good enough because it's Donald Trump and I don't trust him. So we're going to add an extra layer of checking in our state.

Speaker 2 And Trump, and I love this, Trump went out the other day and was like, you know what? Maybe New York doesn't get any then. Because like we, this is a crucial, this is a crisis.

Speaker 2 So they're a little, the little political game Andrew Cuomo wants to play and have this little look, oh, we're going going to add extra checks so we can be super duper careful because we don't trust the president.

Speaker 2 Maybe that's an extra hurdle. Maybe Kansas should get those doses.
You know, maybe Wisconsin should get them.

Speaker 2 Maybe other states should get them that don't have a governor who's actively seeded doubt in the vaccine from the beginning because it was coming from the Trump administration and actively trying to prevent and lengthen the process for people in need to get it.

Speaker 2 Maybe they shouldn't get it at all. And it's honestly like,

Speaker 2 that's the message that should be said. Andrew Cuomo is making, somehow, making his response worse than it's been.
He's actually worsening his response, which I did not think was possible.

Speaker 2 Okay, I'm going to tell you. You could put a pangolin as governor and he would handle the situation better than Andrew Cuomo.
I am going to be honest with you now.

Speaker 2 I did mean to set you off.

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Speaker 2 This is the Glenn Beck program. So the Minneapolis City Council has approved extra police funding amid crime surge.

Speaker 2 Now,

Speaker 2 let me try to explain this.

Speaker 2 On Friday, the City Council voted to approve an an additional $496,800 for the city's police department to help with the recent crime surge.

Speaker 2 This is the same city council that back over the summer tried to defund the police and they cut a million dollars from the police budget. Now crime is so out of control and there's no, it's up 40%

Speaker 2 in Minneapolis. Up 40%.

Speaker 2 And the problem is, is that all of the police officers are just leaving. They are saying that

Speaker 2 the police force in Minneapolis is bleeding out.

Speaker 2 You know, police officers are 100%

Speaker 2 better people than I am.

Speaker 2 Like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 Atlanta, I remember specifically going through this and thinking to myself, there's no way

Speaker 2 I would show up to work after what they've done. No.
Minneapolis, same thing. No way.
The way that police officers have been treated in these communities, there's no way I would show up to work.

Speaker 2 These guys, the fact that they keep showing up to work, it just shows the type of character they have. But you know what's amazing is more and more people are leaving.
Did you hear about Seattle?

Speaker 2 Seattle is hemorrhaging people because they passed the $15 hour wage. You know, that was a living wage.
Sure.

Speaker 2 Nobody is, all the homeless are hanging out, and it is a homeless epidemic and tent city, unlike Seattle has ever seen. Wow, we've covered some bad results already.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's getting worse. It is much worse.