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Charlie Sheen is an icon of decadence.
I lit the fuse and my life turns into everything it wasn't supposed to be.
He's going the distance.
He was the highest paid TV star of all time.
When it started to change, it was quick.
He kept saying, No, no, no, I'm in the hospital now, but next week I'll be ready for the show.
Now, Charlie's sober.
He's going to tell you the truth.
How do I present this with any class?
I think we're past that, Charlie.
We're past that, yeah.
Somebody call action.
Yeah, aka Charlie Sheen, only on Netflix, September 10th.
Welcome to the podcast.
It is Stu back from vacation.
Glenn is here as well today.
We talk a little bit about COVID-19 and
I don't know if you've heard of this.
It's a virus that's going around.
Also, we
look at that and Glenn has kind of an announcement to make about him and his family and COVID-19.
You're going to be interested in that, I think.
Also, Glenn is up for the Radio Hall of Fame.
You can vote for him at radiovote.com.
It goes through August 9th.
The listeners are important to this process.
So if you get a chance, please go to radiovote.com, one vote per email address, and you can cast your vote for Glenn Beck or against him, honestly.
It's up to you.
Also, Christopher Ruffo joins us.
He's a guy who has done documentaries about the Pacific Northwest and all the craziness going on in these cities.
He's got more on what's going on in Seattle right now, which is mind-blowing.
And there's a coin shortage right now.
Why?
Why is there a coin shortage?
There's also an aluminum shortage going on, and Major League Baseball already facing the potential cancellation of their season after only a few games.
We'll get into all that today on the podcast.
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Don't get too close to your headphones, Pat, or to the camera lens.
Apparently, my family all has COVID.
The most isolated family on the planet, except for one weekend over a month ago.
Over a month ago, we had 400 people up at our house.
And if we were going to get it, two weeks after that is when we should have gotten it.
But we didn't.
No, we didn't.
Instead, we just isolated and stayed indoors.
I think it can take up to 30 days.
Somehow or another got COVID.
It can to incubate or whatever they call that,
to percolate in your system.
I think it can take up to 30 days.
Now, initially,
they said
it takes 15 minutes, and then it went to like two weeks, and then it was like,
maybe it's 30 days, and then it was like, nah, it could, you know, a year and a half later if you're exposed.
It could just pop right out.
Were doctors present at your birth?
Because if they were, that was a crowded room you shouldn't have been in.
You could get in at any moment.
But
so I don't know how, but everybody last week, I mean, I think I joked about it last week on the air that, and it's the only reason why we're on the air today, is because I joked about it with the head of Mercury and I said, yeah, everybody's dropping from fly.
We got the COVID here.
And he was like, everybody's dropping like flies.
Glenn may be joking, but I'm smarter than he is.
So I'm going to tell engineering to have everything ready to go.
So last night, I get a call and they were in my house last night at midnight after my wife and I came in with masks and wiped everything down in here so they could come in and
put the program back on the air because everything had been ripped out of my house because I was going back to work today.
Can't they just leave it there just in case?
You know, if you ever have a hankering to stay home, you can just do it.
Why can't they just leave it there?
That's why they don't put it there because he'll stay home every year.
That's why they don't do it.
Right, I think that's exactly exactly right.
They don't want to put it in my house because they know I will never come back into the studio.
And I paid a lot of money for those studios.
So,
in retrospect, not a good idea.
Although, we might get Joe Rogan.
I mean, I think we should, I think all the listeners should email Joe Rogan today and tell him work at the Mercury Studios.
I think Joe Rogan has enough money for his own building, maybe several buildings.
No, he does, but he's smarter than that.
He's smarter than that.
You know, why would he, why would he,
when you can just, when you can have somebody else's studio and just rent, why would you buy a huge, why would you buy the Paramount lot?
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
That makes a lot of sense.
That makes no sense.
You know, Pat, this is the sort of reasoning that's going to get Glenn into the Radio Hall of Fame.
It's this sort of thinking out of the box that's going to win it for him, I think.
It's radioactive.
Radiovote.com.
Yeah, RadioVote.com.
I've already voted.
I mean, not for Glenn.
Right, but I did vote.
NPR?
NPR guys?
No, yeah, I went with NPR.
I thought that would be a good
choice.
It's better than Glenn.
If I lose to the NPR guys.
And listen, audience, because I know you.
You will vote for the NPR guys because you'll think it's funny.
Don't.
It won't be funny to me.
It won't be funny to me.
It was funny last year.
Last year when you lost to the fabulous sports babe or whoever, that was funny.
This will not be funny.
It'll be funny.
I'm the Susan Lucca of the Radio Hall of Fame.
I'm the Susan Lucci.
And I know I'm never going to get in it because I've been told by the guy who runs the Radio Hall of Fame, you will never
be inducted to the Hall of Fame.
Now, this is a very long time ago, right?
This is many, many, many years.
He's still there.
He's still there.
But believe me, he still remembers.
The player.
And you know what?
The place
is somebody we know pretty well.
Yeah, yeah, that's what I think.
No, but the guy who
the guy who started it all is there.
Okay.
Well, here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
You know, last year, apparently, when you could vote, it counted for like
it could override all the other votes.
But apparently, somebody did what I would have done this year and cheated.
And we're offering like prizes for people who could vote and, you know, set up extra emails emails and everything else.
And so now it's only 1/20th of the vote, which I think, you know, is not the way it should be.
But
you know, because listeners listen more than, you know, probably board members do.
Oh, yeah.
And board members sometimes can have vendettas against people and then they never get in.
You're just using Lucha.
Good job to win this vote.
Let me tell you, you are working it hard.
Again, the reason why.
I'm on baby aspirin right now.
I'm on baby aspirin.
I can't be held responsible for what I'm saying.
Someplace, but it's so small because it's printed for baby eyes, all the warnings.
I don't know if I should be operating high, you know, heavy machinery with this or not.
I don't know.
Probably not because I never see babies operating heavy machinery.
That's true.
So
it might also be on baby aspirin.
Yeah.
Probably, probably.
Now, let me ask you this: what does the baby aspirin do in the COVID situation?
Oh, it's a strong, it's a strong pain reliever.
I'm still working up to ibuprofen 800.
You know, when the doctor says, have you ever, now listen, I want to talk to you about something.
I want to be serious here for a moment.
Have you ever had ibuprofen 800?
No.
I want to just slap the doctor when they say that.
Yeah.
It's like, no, no, doc, slow down.
Not ibuprofen 800?
I take them by the handful, doc.
Anyway, never had anything so
strong.
So I think we've cracked.
I really think we've cracked this.
Did you see the Yale epidemiologist who said, stop with the
hydroxychloroquine scare tactics?
Yes.
It works.
It works.
And we all had to hate it, I guess, because we all hate Donald Trump.
But it works.
This is such a bizarre.
And I don't know.
It's so bizarre.
There's like a religious fervor around this one medication on both sides of it, too.
I mean, like,
it obviously doesn't cure every single case, right?
But it does seem to help in some cases.
There's been multiple studies that it should be.
It's been tried.
And it's been tried in several areas.
And there's this fervor against it and for it, as if it's
been this long-term political dividing point.
Pro-life and pro-Nexistence.
No one's going to be pro-hydroxy and anti-hydroxy.
And we all have this in our DNA for the last 50 years.
It's like, well, we all just want something that works, right?
Like, Trump also said remdesivir in the press conference where he mentioned hydroxychloroquine.
The same press conference.
And that's fine.
Nobody cares about that one.
No one cares about that one.
Why?
I just don't understand it.
I talked to a listener last week who said his whole family got it.
And it was like the sniffles for his kids.
It was like a mild cold for him.
Then his wife was really sick because she's got underlying issues.
And they wouldn't give her hydroxychloroquine at the hospital.
So he brought her home and their
primary care physician.
ordered hydroxychloroquine for her.
12 hours later, she was almost completely better.
Wow.
12 hours later.
Yeah, it's amazing.
I got it from my vet.
Really?
No, you know, they were talking about in some states, they are making it illegal for doctors to prescribe it.
I know.
That's insanity.
Insanity.
As Stu said, it's not the cure-all, but it does help a lot of people.
But I will tell you that my doctor has done a lot of research and he is always calling me, going, Hey, hey, you should know.
But
hydroxychloroquine,
that's what I'm supposed to take.
He said with zinc,
not with a Z-PAC, but with zinc.
Then the bare children's baby aspirin.
That's because people are getting...
That's because they're getting blood clots.
People are getting blood clots
in their lungs.
And so take one baby aspirin, and it helps so you don't get blood clots in your lungs.
And then this is the newest part:
I don't know what it is,
basudinide.
How would you say that, Pat?
Look at the label here.
How would you say that?
It's not
really red.
B-U-D-Butacetonide.
Yeah, BUCTIN,
like you said.
That's why I'm nominated for the Radio Hall of Fame and why not, man.
That's why.
Wait, but your doctor didn't give you the Pepsid?
They keep saying that there's a chance that Pepsid actually helps to fight.
Really?
I'm serious.
I mean, that is true, right?
It is legitimately like said that again that does not mean you should go out and take pepsid for I know you know I've not looked into but there are studies that that say that they think it could be a potential treatment for for COVID-19 there's so many things out there they just say everything right yes it's like a yeah
you know what Glenn I think I mean can we come up with like nachos is it possible nachos
can cure COVID-19 you should try it let's see what happens he said he said it doesn't make sense that you didn't get it because you know you have a compromised immune system.
And I said, Doc, I have been eating a steady diet of ice cream and Hershey's chocolate.
I think we should look into that.
I think we should look into that.
It may have helped my immune system.
It's an obvious vaccine.
It's a vaccine.
Right.
Ooh, wait a minute.
I never thought about just.
intervenously taking Hershey's chocolate.
Wow, that would be really.
You'd miss the taste, but
let me just check with one thing here.
I just want to get Pat's take on
John Roberts.
Oh, my God.
John Roberts.
How this one, this one really drives me crazy
because this one is clearly constitutional.
This one is not like, well, it's in the Commerce Clause.
This is the First Amendment.
The First Amendment.
And the court wouldn't even take it up.
And John Roberts was the deciding vote.
They wouldn't take up the Nevada limits on in-person worship services.
Wouldn't even listen to it.
I'm telling you,
just like the Jim Crow laws and the,
oh, shoot, what was the really bad?
The Dred Scott decision?
Yep.
The American people did not listen to the Supreme Court on the Dred Scott decision.
They didn't listen, and they were right for not listening.
These 10 people do not decide what our First Amendment actually means.
Yeah, it's true.
It's true.
John Roberts has lost all
his marbles.
I mean, he's got one job.
You've got one job.
Defend the Constitution.
And he can't do it.
He can't do it because of his legacy or whatever.
He doesn't want to be seen as conservative or he doesn't want his court to be seen as right wing.
I can handle Ginsburg.
I really can.
I can handle Ginsburg because she's consistent and she believes in something.
John Roberts is just political.
John Roberts is the worst Supreme Court justice that I have seen in my lifetime because I don't believe he believes anything.
He believes he'll he'll go with the Constitution on some things, usually small and insignificant.
And then when it's there in the First Amendment, he goes against it.
Why?
How could you possibly do that?
How could you possibly do that, John?
It's in the First Amendment.
You know, I know if you get up to like, I mean, who would expect you to read, you know, 20, 23, 24?
I mean, it starts to get long and tedious.
This is the first one.
This is the first one.
Yeah, so it should have been so crystal clear.
He's just too worried about his legacy.
That's the only thing that's on his mind, it seems, when he makes makes these decisions.
And he's made good decisions on little teeny things.
But anytime it really matters,
he's with the liberals.
He has rewritten the Constitution.
He rewrote the law.
Rewrote the law for the Obama administration.
You don't do that.
You can't do that.
He rewrote it so he could pass it.
And now this, he just doesn't even read the First Amendment.
People of faith, you need to stand up.
You must stand up.
There is an attack of biblical proportions coming on people of faith.
You must stand up now.
This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
So Seattle, we saw the
juvenile, new juvenile hall burned down this weekend that they were building.
And Seattle is actually looking to abolish prisons.
Is that right?
Yeah, that's right.
So this really comes on the heels of Seattle City Council's support for cutting the police department by 50%.
The next thing on their wish list is to close the largest county jail in downtown Seattle, which would reduce the county's total jail capacity by at least 60%.
And this is something that the county executive had been kind of circulating documents.
I broke it before he announced it.
But these are real plans.
Within the next six to 12 months, we could have 50% of the police force and about 40% of the county jail capacity.
And it's all predicated on the same ideas that we talked about last time with the kind of undoing whiteness training.
The documents that I've obtained really show that critical race theory, the idea that the world is reducible to the kind of evil force of whiteness and creating these racist institutions is at the heart of this plan.
And their solution is very clear.
They make it explicit: if you have a racist criminal justice system, the only thing that can be done is to tear it down.
When I ask you this every time I talk to you, when are the people in Seattle going to wake up?
You know, I've been asking that question for many years with the hopes that
things could turn around.
I am curious.
There's a real disconnect.
And I think a lot of people are now contacting me, just saying, you know, what's happening?
What can we do to turn it around?
People who haven't been engaged.
I know that people, homeowners that are selling their houses and leaving the city of Seattle, it's up 1,500% compared to the same period last year.
Some people are definitely moving with their feet.
But there is a kind of religious fanaticism and conviction to socialist politics.
And it's rationalized in the sense that when their plans don't work,
people basically say, we didn't go far enough, and they double down.
And I'm very afraid that that's what's happening here.
When do you move?
Have you put a line, a red line down on the ground and said, you know, I mean, because honestly, this is getting so crazy.
And I'm going to use a hyperbolic example here.
And I know that it is not to this level by any stretch.
Hopefully, it never does.
come to this.
But
in the 1930s, the Jews were looking at things just starting to just completely fall apart.
And some of them said, I'm getting out of here now while the getting is good.
And eventually, you know, they were trapped and they couldn't leave.
At what point is there a red line that you look at and go, you know, if it gets to here, I got to get out of here?
Yeah, I mean, you know, there is.
And I think that it's really kind of fallen and collapsed very quickly.
Five years ago, I had a friend visiting in Seattle and he said, wow, this is one of the cleanest big cities in America.
It's great.
You can go anywhere.
It's high quality of life.
And then he came back last year and he says, it looks like somebody dropped an atomic bomb on your city.
I mean, the change has just been extremely rapid.
And I think that, you know, the question of when to move, people are starting to now really speed up this exodus.
You know, the numbers from the real estate companies are a huge exodus.
If you look at the price of a U-Haul from Seattle to Boise,
it's about 10 times more than the price from a U-Haul from Boise to Seattle, suggesting a huge outflow.
And, you know, a friend of mine who's a pillar of the Jewish community in Seattle, you know, as you mentioned, he says, you know, all of the my community, the kind of conservative Jews in Seattle, we're now meeting very often trying to say when is the time that we actually leave.
And he said something I thought was very astute.
He said, you know, as Jews, we have a special instinct for when things are about to go bad.
And those sentiments, those feelings, those premonitions, they're now firing at an extremely rapid rate.
And people are making plans either to leave Seattle for another city for an outlying area and some of the folks are saying it's gotten so bad we're actually thinking about going to Israel
well Israel I mean if the times of the seasons
are what I think they are Israel's not going to be a very safe place either but at least they'll stand there
would you mind putting us in touch with him I'd like to like to talk to him about that because this is this is a very unique time period and I think people of all religions really need to wake up especially with what happened with John Roberts this weekend when they don't recognize the First Amendment that sets it completely apart from the government I don't know what's coming so so tell me more about this document that you you found the community supports meeting Tell me the highlights of this document.
So this is a document that comes from the King County Executive's Office and really provides the theoretical basis for the executive's plan to really just completely and permanently shut down the largest jail with no plans to replace it.
And it basically looks kind of like a hybrid of a university lecture on critical race theory or a diversity training in kind of a very progressive company.
But it has kind of a chart and a pyramid that says underneath the justice system are the thing that is foundational to the justice system in Seattle and in the United States is white racism, white supremacy, white fragility,
and a whole other series of kind of the buzzwords that have been circulating lately.
And then it goes up the pyramid, and then at some point they say, you know, when criminal offenders offend, it's actually
the fault of society, not that criminal offender.
And the logic is, well, if you have a racist society that in essence forces people, especially people of color, to commit crimes, if you abolish the institutions of the carceral system, if you abolish the jails, if you abolish the police, if you abolish the municipal courts, those people will stop offending because their oppression has been lifted.
And I mean, it's absurd.
It doesn't work in practice at all and gets the causality so skewed it's hard to even understand on logical grounds.
But this is the kind of pseudo-scientific, kind of pseudo-academic nonsense that is driving the decision-making at the highest levels of government in Seattle and Portland and New York, elsewhere.
And it's really shocking because they're really boiling down a very complex social
problem, crime, to just, you know, white people are evil and they've set up these evil institutions that force people to do wrong.
And
their only solution, it's not reform at this point.
For many years, it was about criminal justice reform.
They've moved well beyond that in very rapid succession to do criminal justice abolition.
And, you know, my last thing I'd say is that you had three weeks ago cutting the police department 50%.
This week, cutting the jails by 60%.
And my sources in city government are saying the next target is to get rid of the municipal courts almost altogether.
Jeez.
And what do you have instead?
So they're basically saying that we are not going to prosecute or bring to the courts any misdemeanors and will bump up felonies to the county court system.
So they're really looking to essentially eliminate criminal penalties and the criminal process for
really the vast majority of crimes and only prosecute the most serious crimes, the most violent crimes at the county level.
So this is something that I had heard rumblings about two years ago.
Activists were agitating, but I was told this is something that is far-fetched.
It's not going to happen.
It's just a few people.
But it's very quickly capitalizing on the chaos of the coronavirus shutdown, capitalizing on the death of George Floyd.
These are people who have been laying the groundwork for years, and now they're really seizing this opportunity to push forward.
And unfortunately, when you shut down the jails, you fire 50% of your cops and you abolish the courts, those are almost irreversible decisions.
So it really is a very dangerous period for these cities.
What are the business owners saying?
Because at some point, even the most liberal business owner has got to say, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Somebody comes in and shoplifts.
Somebody comes in and does something in my store.
I've got to have some police.
Yeah, I mean, business owners are apoplectic.
They have been fighting kind of headwinds in Seattle for many years.
And it really started with kind of economic policies, taxes, minimum wage.
Those are kind of your traditional business versus labor fights, right?
These have been the kind of mainstream battleground between business and labor organizations.
And there was a sense, looking back in retrospect, a naive sense that, well, this is really as bad as they can make it.
They can raise the minimum wage.
They can put in kind of onerous scheduling laws.
They can increase the property taxes on business owners.
But now business owners are finding themselves in a real whole new terrain.
I know that in downtown Seattle right now, there are entire blocks that have been boarded up for two months.
I mean, businesses that are saying, you know, the risk of getting looted, the risk of getting ransacked, the risk of getting burned down is a greater risk than just shutting down and going to zero revenue for the foreseeable future.
So this is really catastrophic.
And the business trade groups,
they're predicting that maybe up to 50% of
all restaurants in downtown Seattle may never come back.
So So this is a really frightening thing.
And then if they do come back and there are 50% of the police officers on the street,
it's going to be an absolute nightmare.
And my friends and sources within the police department say if these cuts go forward, they're going to have no proactive policing and they're going to have a limited number of officers basically bouncing from emergency call to emergency call to emergency call.
And it could be sometimes up to two hours before an officer can show up at the scene of a crime.
Real quick, because I have to take a network break.
Is there any chance that
the chief of police runs for higher office?
I mean, she seems to be striking a chord with a lot of people where she's just coming out and she's apologizing and saying, look, I have nothing to do with this.
In Seattle, you're on your own.
I wish I could help.
But I can't.
I can't.
Is she looked looked on as reasonable or not reasonable?
She's looked on as very reasonable.
And I think what's happening is increasingly, Chief of Police, Carmen Best, she's a longtime SPD officer, moved up the ranks and is now chief.
She's seen as the only thing standing between the city and the mob.
I mean, she's really the last...
kind of bastion of hope for the city of Seattle.
And I know that rank-and-file officers, as well as some of the political power brokers who are in the more kind of center-left, moderate camp, they're encouraging her to consider a run.
The mayor's race is next year, it's an off-year election.
And I think that she can run on a very clear platform: standing up to the mob, standing up to the radicals.
And, you know, I, for one, absolutely hope that she considers it.
Thank you so much.
I appreciate it, Chris.
And thank you for all of your hard work and being places that none of us want to be.
This is the best of the Glenbeck program.
Hello, Kara.
Hi, how are you doing today?
I'm very good.
I'm very good.
Good.
I'm so glad I get to talk to you.
I've been listening to you all the way back since Fox News, and you've taught me and my kids so much.
We want to thank you.
Oh, thank you.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate that.
Sure.
I am wondering about this coin shortages that we're having.
I don't think I've ever in my life had coins that were not available.
Are we moving into a cashless society?
Yes, but I don't think that's what this is all about.
I'm not sure.
I honestly have not spent the time looking at the coin shortage.
I've been looking at the dollar abundance
and been researching some other things.
But
the short answer on the coin shortage, I don't know why we're going through this right now.
Longer answer for you,
on really the root of your question, are we going through a cat going to a cashless society?
We absolutely are going to a cashless society.
But it will take the collapse of the US dollar
to bring us
to that.
And we're going to most likely
go back to a gold standard, at least for a while.
Then it will all be digitized and the banks will close.
And we've done this before, unfortunately.
We did this
just before World War II and the Great Depression.
And this is what happens when you go off the gold standard, as we did in 73, Stu, or 71 with Nixon.
Gold has just gone through a record spike again.
It just passed the September 2011 price of $1,943.
It's almost up to $2,000, and I'll tell you, it is, I think, is going to continue to go through the roof as we go into the fall and then some.
And you don't want to know what the world is like
when we have gold at
$2,000, $3,000, $5,000 an ounce.
Nobody's hoping for that.
Thank you so much for your phone call.
There's also an aluminum shortage.
Is there now?
There's a lot of shortages of different things because
the factories aren't open.
There is a shortage, from what I understand,
of sheet rock, of building
in some places.
I know that I had to pour some concrete a couple of weeks ago, and I paid three times the price of concrete
because we can't get the
coal ash.
What kind of ash is it that they put in?
They could tell you anything to charge you three times the cost, couldn't they?
I know, and they probably did.
Yes, sir.
So the coal ash is out, so therefore.
Yeah.
No, there's something that they add into it, so they don't have to add so much sand.
And right now, the stuff that I poured was, you know, had real sand in it, a lot of real sand.
And sand is, we're running out of sand.
And I've talked about this for the last couple of years, and nobody seems to be concerned about it.
It's a really big deal.
You can't make sand.
We can't get the sand from the desert because that is smooth on all sides.
The sand that we can use only really comes from oceans and
the bottom of rivers where it's just been broken and it's all jagged so it locks together.
And we run out of sand.
We run out of a lot of things.
A lot of things.
And nobody thinks about it.
What's the deal on the aluminum?
We're running out of aluminum cans now, right?
Yeah, and on the coins, it seems like
less people going out and having face-to-face transactions is stopping the circulation of these coins.
People are just keeping them at home.
And the Mint has sh turned down the amount of coins they're making because of coronavirus and short,
you know, lowering staff numbers.
So that is apparently what's causing the coin shortage.
So it's going out.
People make change, and then they get that change, and then they just keep it at home.
They're bringing it home.
They're
not circulating.
It's not cycling through, yeah.
Yeah, so that's the thing.
The aluminum thing is interesting because they're having,
usually like, you know, you're selling beer, let's say, in a keg.
Well, they're still selling plenty of beer.
That has not been
one of the the industries that's been hard hit by the coronavirus.
People are still finding a way to buy their alcohol, oddly.
Yeah.
But they're taking, instead of selling it in kegs, they're selling it in individual cans for people at home.
So they're running low on aluminum.
It's why, apparently, also why some soda flavors have been
not really been seen on shelves in a while because they are trying to go to their core flavors.
This is killing us, guys.
This is.
This is what I was talking about.
We're losing the Western way of life, and we can't have any flavor of soda we want.
We've gone too far.
We have, we're not coming back.
Yes, we're not coming back.
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