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Hello, America, and welcome to Friday.
We're so glad that you have joined us today.
And I
want to start
with
a very personal story that I think if you're a parent, you can relate to.
If you've had a teenager, you can relate to.
If you've had any trouble in your life, you can relate to.
But we are losing the ability to relate to one another
because
we're not standing up and talking about those common things that we all share.
And we begin there.
Next.
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There's a recent Gallup survey that shows Americans worry more about burglary than almost any other crime.
Does that even does that even come to mind to you?
Yeah, I mean, you certainly worry about your stuff.
Yeah, I guess.
I guess.
Losing it.
I mean, I guess when you
take steps, you worry about it less.
Yeah.
I mean, and maybe it's because we live in nice neighborhoods
and a lot of people can't afford to live in a nice neighborhood and crime seems to be growing even though it's not.
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I want to talk to you
about two things that I think you can relate to.
They were the hardest days of my life.
The first one happened in 1988, and I've had, just like you have, a lot of things happen in your life that you would consider and you'd put in a hard bucket.
But the day my daughter was born, Mary, in 1988, and they said she'd never walk, she'd never talk, she'd never feed herself, she wouldn't understand speech, she'd be a vegetable.
I,
at 20 years old, I had no idea what to do.
The second day was the day my son was born.
Hard because it was the greatest day of my life, but he was adopted, and we didn't know if his adopted mother, who fell in love with him,
was going to give him up to us.
Now my son is a teenager and
my two kids, I love all my kids and they're the greatest things of my life, truly the greatest things of my life.
But they're the hardest things I've ever done.
I have worked hard in my life.
I have I have tried to noodle things through, but When it comes to raising my son and get through the teenage years, I am grasping at straws, and I feel almost every day I'm about to lose him.
My daughter is now in her thirties,
and she prays for the day when she crosses over to the other side and her disabilities are removed because she knows that her life will be easier.
She right now is going through testing.
She's been going through testing for about a year.
One of the tests, one, was fifty thousand dollars.
What she is,
what they're proposing in the end will probably be about a million dollars so she can just stop having seizures.
I pray,
I pray for new medical technology.
I can't wait for the future.
I pray every night for my son.
On my knees, I beg the Lord for help.
I'm not alone,
And neither are you.
I know, just like you, you have these struggles with your kids.
And then you have to go to work.
Then you have to pay your mortgage.
Then you have to worry about your car payment or if your car has broken down.
How am I going to afford this?
I know that you are no different than me, that whatever the struggle is, there are times in your life that you look up and you're like, Lord, I can't do anymore.
I need help,
please.
But through all of that,
it's the greatest joy of my life.
I wouldn't trade a single day with my daughter.
I wouldn't trade a single day with my son.
I wouldn't take away
the pains of my own life
because they've created
they've given me a chance
to feel empathy.
It's given me a chance to be a better man.
It's given me a chance to know what real love is.
Only when you're down on your your knees going, Lord, give it to me.
Give it to me.
I give my life in exchange for theirs.
Only when you get there,
are you really living?
Do you really know what love is?
Do you know what's...
What's worth living for?
Not just what's worth dying for.
The reason why.
The reason why we are so unhinged and so screwed up in our society is because
we're trying to take everybody's pain away.
If it wasn't for my literal pain
of the last 10 years,
I don't know if I'd really know who my wife is.
I don't know if I'd know how much she really truly loved me.
I wouldn't be the same man.
Pain and struggle.
It's what makes us.
An animal doesn't understand pain.
It's why we put them down.
They don't understand pain.
Don't let them suffer.
Because that's all it is, is suffering.
There is no learning.
There is no growing through that pain.
How many people do you know that you find are giants, that they are in massive pain, they're having massive problems, and yet you wouldn't know it.
If you didn't know them, you wouldn't know it.
They somehow or another have
reached out of the mud and the muck and the pain and the struggle of life, and they have pulled themselves out and they are almost superhuman.
I don't know about you, but that's who I want to be.
Come to me like a child.
There comes a point in your life where you realize you don't know anything.
And if you don't get there, you're an egomaniac.
And you're probably a danger.
But the older you get, the more you realize what a fool I am.
Come to me
like a child.
It means to constantly ask why.
It means to constantly look at things
and find the beauty in it.
and to not focus on the difference but to focus on this is so cool
and the more we think we know
the less we truly do
the more we fill our head it seems
the more we close down its extraordinarily important counterpart the
The more we concentrate on the heart,
the more we close down, it seems, the extraordinarily important counterpart of its
head.
Life is always a constant battle between head and heart.
It's only when they're in line
that we survive.
I know Alice Camerada, or Alice and Camarada,
vaguely, a little bit.
We worked together for a little bit.
We've talked on the phone a couple of times.
We're not friends.
We just know each other.
She said something on CNN the other day that I just could not believe.
And it's the closing of the heart.
States are talking now about abortion.
And
she was talking to a governor of one of these states that said, you know,
you can't kill a child
based on race.
You can't kill a child based on disability or sex.
This seems to be
one of those things that we used to find self-evident.
If you can kill a child based on something society doesn't want, there would be no homosexuals.
If we could have found out in the womb that you were a homosexual a hundred years ago, it would have killed all the homosexuals.
There wouldn't be a black person alive today.
In a lot of places, they'd still be doing it.
Disney is talking about not doing business because of the abortion law, but they'll do business with Saudi Arabia.
They'll do business with China that is locking up Muslims, a million people at a clip, putting them into concentration camps, sterilizing them,
sterilizing them.
I want you to listen to what Allison said on CNN.
Indiana had tried to block women from getting abortions if it were based on a disability.
And I'm just curious about that one.
Why?
Why would you want a family who have to have a child with a severe disability?
Well, the issue that the General Assembly faced was not with regard to the question you posed.
It's the question of the rights and consideration of the unborn child in terms of a discriminator.
Why would you do this?
It was so compassionate.
Why would you, why, why would you let a child with disability?
When I heard this, when I was up on vacation, I've been, I've been painting memes.
I call them 10-hour memes, fine art memes.
I know you can make them on the computer in about 10 seconds, but I've been spending hours making them in my spare time.
And I've been using old propaganda.
And so I saw the abortion debate and I found two flyers that I was going to paint sometime in the future.
And I found them last week, and they're both from Germany.
And the first one is
Children with Disabilities.
And it says, translated, sterilization, not a punishment, but liberation.
What parents would like to wish their children such a horrible wish?
Who wants to be guilty of this?
That's exactly what Allison was saying.
Who wants to be guilty of this?
Who wants to put the child or the parent through this?
Well, there's a follow-up, and it's this.
It's one German worker
holding up two people, one an old guy, and one that looks like a monkey.
You also carry the burden.
Someone with disease will cost the average it will cost the average 50,000 Reichmarks before he reaches 60 years.
We're going to find out that those with disabilities are the ones who are far greater than we are.
We are going to
at some point realize what we are actually talking about.
First, they came for the black child, but I wasn't black, so I didn't say anything.
Then they came for the Down syndrome child, but I looked through my eyes
and I thought, how could I parent a child like this?
So I looked at them through the eyes of fear and I said nothing.
I compared my imperfect and garish life to their simple never being able to get married maybe or buy their first house or have their first car or drink their college years away and party like I did and I thought I wouldn't want that for my life
that simple life so I said nothing And when they came for me because I had cancer, I was too old, I was no longer really of any use for society, there was no one left to stand for me.
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You know, I know the economy is so important.
I know that immigration, what's happening at our border is so important.
But if we don't get this life thing right, we're not going to make it.
Because we're entering a time now where the Nazis' greatest dreams are being realized.
We can pick a child and make sure that they're all Aryan.
They're all blue-eyed, or they're all brown-eyed, or they're all green-eyed.
There's not a single white person born.
There's not a Jew born.
There's not a black born.
There's no more men.
We're going to genetically change men.
Remember, the tastes of societies change.
And if you don't believe me, go to an art museum and
look at the paintings of the big fat naked women.
What?
Tastes change.
Racism is a human trait.
What we believe is true is most times not.
If we don't get this one right,
our children and our grandchildren are going to pay a very, very, very high price.
I would ask that you would stand for life.
I would ask that you would help your neighbors and your friends see the path that we're going down.
The things that they're saying now are the things that the Nazis said in propaganda.
These people are now just saying it right from their heart because they have closed the connection between their heart and their head.
It works both ways.
Both must be open.
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Welcome to the program.
Glad you're here.
Pat Gray is with us from Pat Gray Unleash, podcast you can get on iTunes or wherever.
Hi, Pat.
How are you?
I'm doing good.
Good.
You want to talk today about
Disney's threatened boycott of Georgia?
Oh, yeah.
Bob Iger just made this announcement yesterday.
The abortion bill in Georgia.
How do you feel about that?
And is Disney going to keep producing there?
Well, I think if it becomes law, it'll be very difficult to produce it.
I rather doubt we will.
Why?
I don't think it will be.
Because he says.
I think many people who work for us will not want to work there.
And
we'll have to heed their wishes in that regard.
Right now, we're watching it very carefully.
Stop.
So
I don't actually have a problem with Bob Iger saying this.
I wish he had a spine, but he's giving in to the wishes of all the creatives.
And, you know, well, you're going to, what are you going to do?
And would they do the same thing if their wish was, yeah,
we don't want to perform in New York because their abortion law is so extreme.
They can kill a baby that's just about to be born.
If a company had most of their employees saying that, I think they would.
You think they'd carry Cave to that?
Yeah, I think if most of their employees were saying that, they would.
Like with Chick-fil-A,
if they said, you know what, we don't want to go to New York because we don't want to have abortion, because we don't like the abortion law.
I mean, they would get destroyed by the media for that stance.
Absolutely.
Oh, of course.
Oh, yeah, but Chick-fil-A would do it.
Yeah, they would do it.
They would do it.
I mean, I don't think it's bad to have principles.
It's interesting.
And if their principles are, you know, we really, really just adore killing little ones and children.
Bob Iger's principle principle is, I got to make money.
I got to make movies, and I got to make money.
Probably.
And certainly he doesn't give a crap about the crew.
Yeah.
The poor people who are working in Georgia on these movies, who probably are all on their side of the argument when it comes to abortion.
He also doesn't give a crap about China's policies.
No, I know that.
Where they've got people in internment camps right now, and they're killing millions of Muslims.
I know.
But they're doing business with China?
Yeah, they're doing business with China.
Huh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Isn't that interesting?
The hypocrisy of the world.
All of these companies are doing this.
I think it is remarkable what we are going through, and that's why we started the show the way we did.
Is
we've got to take a stand.
And the way to fight this.
Yes, we have to take a stand.
That's my point, too.
Yeah, we have to take a stand.
And the way to fight it is to say, oh, okay, Disney, bye-bye.
Right.
You know, yeah, but all of us have to do that too, not just Georgia.
And I think all of us.
Governor Brian Kemp is telling him that.
He's saying, yeah, okay, see ya.
Yeah, I mean, it's really the iPhone thing.
Go with me here for a second.
I have this conversation with my wife all the time.
I'll be, I'll be like, put the iPhone down.
Put the iPhone down.
Put it down.
Put it down.
Put it down, crackhead.
Crackhead.
Put it down.
And she'd be like, I am doing all of these things.
I got it.
Okay, well, you know what?
Go without it for a week.
Are you kidding me?
You know what, honey?
You sure did it 10 years ago and we were fine.
That's what Georgia and all these other places need to say.
Oh, Hollywood won't produce their movies here.
Oh, let's see.
Georgia was doing pretty fine without them.
We don't have to worry about it.
You will find other things.
And if we start putting life
behind making a stupid movie,
wow.
Or going to a stupid movie.
If we started hitting Disney in the pocketbook,
I'm not going to your Disney World.
I'm not going to Disneyland.
I'm not going to to your Disney movies.
But with Star Wars,
with Marvel, you're just not going to.
You're not going to.
And that's the only thing that would make a statement to Bob Iger and to Disney.
Okay,
we can play that game too.
And on the other side, boycotts lose their effectiveness when you don't give them credibility.
The power.
North Carolina tried to stand up against when the bathroom law thing was going on last year.
And they were like,
we passed this law.
It's important.
And all this, then the NBA was like, yeah, we're not going to have our all-star game there.
Like, okay, forget it.
We didn't care.
And it stopped.
We're sorry.
It's like, all right, that's not going to work.
Right.
Like, you have to, when you make a decision like that and you know the consequences, what you're saying is, I'm putting this at a higher priority than that, right?
Georgia is saying, I'm putting life at a higher priority than Disney.
And Disney is saying, I'm putting abortion at a higher priority than the workers in the state, than my potentially my previous commitments,
and maybe the business influence.
And they can make that choice as a company.
They can.
They can say, you know what?
We just heart-killing babies.
We just love and in those heartbeats.
And they can just do that all they want.
And if that's their principle, then you know what their principle is.
And you can make that decision whether you feel like that principle is one you want to play with.
It's interesting that we raise our children on Disney, and yet Disney is not standing for the unborn children.
I mean, it's really, truly remarkable.
With
that being said,
boycotts are just destruction.
And
that's not how to fight or win.
Now, I am always torn on boycotts.
I am right now.
Yeah, I'm really torn on boycotts because, I mean, Martin Luther King said, you know, if we don't boycott, if we don't hit him in the pocketbook, it's not going to make a difference.
And he was right.
However, what is
boycotts will work when there's creative destruction.
And what I mean by that is
it's easy for people to boycott on the left because they can say, I'm not going to watch Fox News.
Well, they're fine not watching Fox News because they have six other things that they like more.
When we say, I'm going to boycott Disney, what are you replacing that hole with?
Well, I'm going to boycott this.
Really?
Are you?
You're going to boycott boycott Google?
You're gonna boycott Facebook?
You're gonna boycott what?
Apple?
What are you replacing it with?
I mean, there's no way Pat could boycott Facebook.
It's too much of his life.
It's just too big of a part of his life.
Social media for Pat.
No, no.
But what I'm saying is the average person,
they want to boycott Facebook, but it's already such a big part of their life.
And there's nothing that is on the other side that is just as good.
And so what has to happen is you have to have creative destruction.
And we have to start developing, for instance, we have to go and support some really crappy Christian movies to get to some good Christian movies.
You know what I mean?
And we've done that.
And we've done that.
And you're getting good.
They're getting good.
And it's away from the studio system.
That's a really good example because it's worked in that case.
You have to, you have to
leave the Blaze out of this.
You have to go and subscribe to Ben Shapiro or to Bill O'Reilly or whatever, the Blaze.
You have to subscribe because we are in the creative destruction process.
You're never going to replace these mainstream media overnight.
It's just not going to happen.
It has to start from the grassroots and then build and it will get better and better and better.
And 10 years from now, things will be different.
But you can't boycott without the other option that is just as good, if not better.
That's why it works for the right, for the left, and why it doesn't work for the right.
I'm not going shopping at Target or Walmart or
Kmart or any of it.
Really?
Where are you going to go buy stuff?
I'm not going to go to Target ever again.
Okay,
how long did that last?
Because you like Target.
You like these places.
And there's nothing just as good on the other side because they've got all of those.
I'm going to buy all my groceries at Home Depot now.
That's exactly right.
That's what it's like.
That's right.
That's the company we have.
So I'm going to go grocery shopping for milk and bread and cookies at Home Depot.
Right.
I'm never buying anything again on Amazon.
Really?
Uh-huh.
Yeah, that's not going to happen.
So, what is it we have, though?
We don't, since we don't do boycotts and don't really even believe in them, although you and I are torn on that a little bit, what do you do to make a statement to the Disneys and the Netflixes of the world that it's unacceptable?
You know what?
I am so proud of my daughter, Hannah,
because she has become this greenie, and not because of global warming, but because she believes that we waste too much.
Okay.
And she has never lectured me.
I mean, I joke with her all the time.
She comes over and I'd be like, Styrofoam.
It's so wonderful.
And it is.
Yeah, it is.
And she, you know, she throws it back in my face, but it's never, she's not trying to convince anyone.
What she's come to the conclusion is, I don't think these big movements actually do anything.
I think
people actually living it and showing it's not that hard
will change things.
For instance,
what's that all, you know, the miracle burger or whatever?
What impossible burger?
Impossible burger.
That's going to change
so much.
Because it's actually good.
Creative destruction.
But people like Stu had to eat those crappy burgers for a long time.
Just 10 years, 10, 15 years.
Yeah, that's a bad one.
That's all.
It wasn't that bad at all.
They finally came out with a good one.
That's right.
Well, I think it's almost a point, and this goes back to the Obama era, early Obama era, in that it's a thought of a difference between
salvation and collective salvation, right?
Like,
you, I think that we always think of ourselves as individuals, and you have to do what you believe is right.
And, like,
you know, there's a lot of things that I believe that, you know, I'm not going to sit here and evangelize for because no one cares, right?
Like, you know, you, I mean, I'll tell you if you ask me, but I mean, there's a level of I'm doing what I want to do and believe is right because I believe it's right.
Not because I'm trying to influence other people or make a giant societal change.
That's right.
Anna is.
Yeah.
And
I think that's a good place to land.
I mean, you can only do, you can get obsessed with this stuff because if you tried to, we just joked about it, like, you can't buy something on Amazon.
Imagine trying to actually implement a strategy that you boycotted every company that you disagreed with.
We all know it's undoable.
If you want to have a boycott, like if it makes you feel like you're doing something, that's fine.
But I mean, like, it's impossible.
Like, you would never watch another television show.
You would never
watch another movie.
You would not be able to go.
The electricity company you're doing business with is probably doing things that violate your interests.
Right.
You wouldn't do anything.
You wouldn't do anything.
You wouldn't do anything.
Right.
And like, you wouldn't have a cell phone.
You wouldn't have a cell phone.
Like the Patriot Mobile ads, we talk about it all the time.
You wouldn't, unless it's Patriot Mobile.
You would not have cell phones.
And unfortunately, there's not a Patriot Mobile in every category.
And you know what?
The Patriot Mobile idea, there's a great idea.
Creative destruction, creative destruction that people are like, okay, well, I don't know.
I've never heard of.
You know where they base this off of something that was started in California that struggled for a long time.
Same exact thing that was like, we're going to give some of our profits to these crazy progressive groups.
Yeah, I know.
And so
it struggled for a long time, then took off, and now is actually influencing elections for the progressives.
And so these guys got together and went, why can't we do that?
Well, they're just going through their growth stage now the same way.
You just have to live it.
You have to say, you know what,
I'm willing to get the same service.
I'm willing to get all of the exact same coverage and everything else.
And I'm willing to put up with the switching over because I'm tired of it.
And that's all you have to put up with.
That's all you have to put up with.
And that's a hard sell for people.
It is.
But it's even though they made it really easy.
I know.
And a lot of these companies have done the same thing.
But it's just hard to find them.
And you just, a lot of times, you don't know about them.
But when you find them, you need to use them.
If they really do do the same service or better,
that's the way you make an impact.
Okay.
You got to support the pioneers that are doing the creative destruction because without the creative destruction, without the new ones coming up, you're left with nothing.
You're left with nothing except a losing boycott because everybody's like, I'm never going to.
And they're doing it the very next day because it's, they like it.
They like it.
If you believe in the free market, then you got to support the free market.
You got to find those
entrepreneurs that are doing it and then just quietly use them.
I will tell you, my daughter has talked me into a lot of things, not by saying a word, just by going, you got to be kidding me.
Really?
This you got?
And it's cheaper?
And it tastes like this or it does this or really?
And it doesn't have any of these bad effects.
Wow.
Okay, I'm in.
That's a really good thing.
Solar energy.
Once solar energy starts to come down in in price, we'll all be solar energy nuts.
As long as it works and it's reliable.
Exactly right.
Yeah.
That's the only way.
We don't hate the environment.
It just doesn't work.
We don't hate Christian movies.
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Welcome.
I'm here, yes.
It sounds great.
I haven't talked to you in quite a while, and it sounds like you're just brimming with things to say.
Where have you been, Beck?
Nobody knows where you went.
Wouldn't you like to know?
I really won't.
But
I hope you had a good time, and I hope you relaxed and
didn't frighten anyone.
No, I didn't frighten anybody.
Okay, so, Bill, tell me, what's the most important story of the week?
The most important story of the week is that due process in America is once again
under siege, and this affects every single person.
And I'm trying to be the Paul Revere guy here to spread the word that somehow and I really don't explain I can't really explain it other than blame it on the media
You know, we don't respect the presumption of innocence anymore so I was talking even at the highest levels of government I was talking to a federal judge while I was on vacation and he said
We judges need to start coming out and hammering our own.
He said, I am seeing things now come across my bench.
He said, where the Constitution, the law, nothing, nothing has gone into this decision except what that judge felt was the right thing.
And he said, we're developing a country that is being ruled by feelings alone.
And the rule of law is completely going out the window.
And I think that's what it is.
We only care about how people feel and what I feel and what feels right.
Yeah.
Well, I think it's a dual
problem.
You've got the activist judges and everybody knows that.
That any kind of an abortion
question or challenge, you know, there's four people on the Supreme Court that are going to rule in favor of abortion, no matter what it is.
And that's wrong, of course.
The other side, you don't really know.
You really don't know.
You know, Clarence Thomas, I think, would be the most reliable against anything abortion.
But the others, you don't really know.
Right.
But what I'm talking about is the Mueller,
he sits there.
He comes out.
He sits there.
And this was all about cocktail parties.
I'll explain that in a moment.
But the Mueller thing, he comes out and he goes, you know, I'm a prosecutor.
That's what I was hired to do.
And I investigated two years alleged
crimes.
And I really don't have any evidence.
And I wrote a report for almost 500 pages that says, I don't really have any evidence.
I mean, there were occurrences,
things that happened, but nothing that I can say
was a criminal referral, as Judge Starr did with Bill Clinton 11 times.
But I don't have anything.
So instead of just saying, good night, everyone, thank you.
I'll see you
down the road.
No.
Then he has to pivot and say, but
my investigators can't say President Trump didn't do anything wrong.
Right.
That is so outrageous.
That's not his job.
That's the job of CNN.
That's their job, okay?
Not Mueller's job.
And what Mueller did was he denied a fellow American who happens to be the president due process.
Well, he cloaked it.
He cloaked it.
It was really fascinating.
He cloaked it in the reason why I didn't say that he was guilty of a crime is because there's no due process for him.
So I care about due process.
And
because I couldn't bring up a criminal charge, I'm not going to say he committed these crimes because then there was nowhere to go with it.
But that's false.
That's false.
I mean, you saw the star report.
And yes, they have clarified what can and can't happen to a a sitting president, but you can still refer.
You can refer.
And then when Donald Trump leaves office, then he has to answer.
Well, but not only that,
we all know that if he said that there was a crime committed, then we know the process is then turn it over to Congress and he'll be impeached.
So the question is.
Or convene a grand jury.
Correct.
The problem here is, is why did we do this?
If the answer was, well, I can't tell you if a crime was committed or not.
That wasn't the answer.
He just made it up.
He just made it up.
All right, that gave him cover.
All right, so then let's get to the real reason he did this.
So he's a swamp creature, right?
Robert Mueller.
Would everybody agree with that?
Stu, are you still awake here?
Would you agree?
Barely, but yes, I would.
Mueller is a swamp creature.
That means he makes his living in the Washington, D.C.
bureaucracy and always has.
Okay.
So he issues a report that said basically exonerates Donald Trump, who the swamp wants to kill.
All right.
And so all his swamp friends, they don't like that.
So all of a sudden, all the cocktail parties and the barbecues and the country club, I'll meet you, we'll have a drink, we'll have a little dinner, that all stops.
And he's got to get it back.
And that's why he did what he did.
Now, wow,
hang on.
Oh, you're crazy, O'Reilly.
This, that, and the other thing.
This is the primary motivator for the liberal elite in America socializing, being accepted at the highest levels, being seen in the salons.
That is everything to them.
So I was
never invited anywhere.
Never.
So we have to throw that in, that we're jealous.
So, Bill,
let me ask you this.
Let me ask you this.
I think you're absolutely right.
In fact, I know you're right on this.
Thank you.
And I know how intoxicating that is.
That
when you're offered the opportunity to be part of the cool kid table, we all know this from high school.
It's enormously hard not to turn your back on that one weirdo friend that you've had that you actually really like, but is really unpopular when the popular kids want to try to include you in their club.
That's the mean girl syndrome.
Exactly.
And, you know, it gets to the point where this infects, and that's the word,
politicians, judges, especially news people on television.
Oh, my God, they live for that invitation.
And it
infects them so that they can't be fair anymore.
They have to tilt over to the cool kids.
And that's what this Mueller thing was all about.
Now, do we have time for me to tell you about the phone call I got from President Trump the night Mueller gave his address?
Yes.
Let me take one minute break and then we'll come back with that.
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This is the Glenn Beck program.
Bill O'Reilly, you got a phone call from Donald Trump.
Yes, because I'm wrapping up the United States of Trump, my book, my history book on him, that'll be out
on September 24th.
And I needed to get one more
interview with the president, particularly after the Mueller thing, the report and all of that.
So, you know, he's not real thrilled about this book anyway.
Donald Trump is not, because it goes way back and traces his whole life and then explains how he did this amazing thing and how he's sitting in the White House and who he really is and how he feels about his country, really.
Okay?
So he doesn't know.
He knows me a long time and he knows I'm going to tell the truth.
But he calls me, all right?
And it was nice of him to do it because I'm badgering his PR people going, look, I need to get a final interview with him to wrap this book.
And he calls me about 10.15 at night Eastern Time.
He goes, wow, Bill, are you still up?
I said, I'm like you, I'm a vampire.
I never sleep.
So I talked to him.
And the Mueller thing comes right up because that's what I wanted him.
My basic question to the president was,
since you have gone through this for three years, being pounded into pudding by the media and investigated in this, that, and the other thing, has your opinion of America changed?
Now, I'm not going to give you his answer because I have it in the book.
But I'm going to tell you that he wailed on Mueller.
And he said that Mueller
hates him.
He uses that word.
He goes, Mueller hates me.
And I said,
why would he hate you?
And President Trump said, because when I fired Comey, Mueller me and asked for Comey's job as head of the FBI, and I said no.
But it goes on.
back further, the president told me, that he was in one of my golf clubs on the Potomac River, and he was going to move out of the neighborhood and wanted his deposit back
and I wouldn't give it to him because if I did that I have to divide to everybody
and I said how much was he goes fifteen thousand dollars and I said Mueller called you and you took the call he goes yeah I talked to him and it was a quote nasty conversation
and that and he said that Mueller hates me he's always hated me and and that's now why he did what he did today okay so let me let me ask you this question to hear that.
Let me play devil's advocate.
Okay.
The president has a pattern of saying, somebody called me for a job.
Somebody called me for help.
And it's not always true.
Okay, well, what do you want me to do?
Put him on a lie detective?
Well, I just want to.
He's reporting what he said to me.
Right.
What I want to know.
If it's true or not,
that's, I don't know.
How can you check it?
But the fact that he's saying
Look, let's put it this way.
I've known him 30 years.
He's never told me a falsehood directly to me.
Okay.
Ever.
I mean, that's all I can tell you.
Bill, am I incorrect in believing that this is somewhat big breaking news?
Like,
was this known before this phone call?
Like, I had never heard the story that he asked for the FBI job.
I was like, I'm not sure if I did it on billoilly.com,
which is the premier website, political website in the country.
I'm I'm a member, I know.
Yeah.
So
I did do that.
I'm a member, too.
More of a ruler.
I always want to give you and Beck, you know, some good stuff for your audience,
and I believe they're interested in that.
All right.
So, Bill,
what happens now?
I mean,
you were here for the impeachment of
Lincoln's successor,
and
you went through Watergate
and
with Clinton.
What is Congress going to do now?
Start their own hearings?
I don't think so.
But I could be wrong.
Oh, I hate saying that.
It's so painful.
Could be wrong.
But I don't think so.
Why?
Because the independent voters, if you look at the polling,
most Americans do not want this dog and pony impeachment show based upon what we know now, which is you don't really have anything, and the Senate will never convict.
So why put the country through this when we have vexing problems that need to be solved, and you're not solving them?
You're not even trying to solve them.
So that's Americans, they want Congress to solve problems, okay?
To put the country in a more prosperous position.
And you don't do that when you're drumming up impeachment stuff.
So the only people that are going to prosper from that are cable TV news.
That's all.
And I think that the Democrats really are fearful
that if they do this, independent voters will turn on the party, they'll lose the House,
they'll never get the Senate back, and then Trump will be re-elected.
So I think that's an overarch fear.
I said this
the day that
Mueller came out, and I said,
don't fear impeachment hearings
because I think that works against, and in fact, if the economy starts to go down, I think that actually would strengthen the president if they were in impeachment hearings.
Because I remember, Bill, you know, this is before the blue dress came out.
And I thought that Bill Clinton absolutely did all of those things and was lying.
But there was this moment when he said, I did not have sex with her, not one time, and I didn't tell anybody to lie, and I've got to get back to work for the American people.
There was even a part in me that said, wow, I mean, this is, I mean, we do have other priorities.
And I caught myself and I was like, wait, wait, wait.
But I think if the economy, which has gone so well, if the economy was going and having problems and they were focused on impeachment, I think that it actually could turn around because Trump would be saying, this is nonsense.
You've known it's nonsense.
And
everything that we have to work on, they got me so tied down on this impeachment stuff, I can't do the things I need to do.
I think it actually would really, really hurt them.
Yeah, I mean, that's the fear of Nancy Pelosi and a Democratic Party.
The other thing is that cable news ratings this week have not been strong.
which has surprised me.
I mean, in general, they are deteriorating.
The cable news networks are losing viewers and substantially.
But I figured, well, this week, you know, with all of the
stuff going on,
you know, they're going to really
go through, you know, go up because Mueller and everything like that.
Well, Racial Matter is getting hammered
this week.
They're not doing well.
Demographically, they're all getting killed.
Last night, I have these numbers right in front of me.
I'm reading them.
Not one cable news show did more than a half million 25 to 54 viewers.
Not one?
Not one.
That means the folks have had enough,
enough.
Yeah, the two
entities that Americans are walking away from right now are the Russian collusion Mueller and Godzilla.
Enough with Godzilla.
All right?
I will take you, Godzilla.
I will take you on and take you down for that.
Let's see
how many monsters have to wreck San Francisco.
Never enough.
There are never enough.
The Godzilla.
I mean, look, I grew up making fun of Godzilla.
I used to watch them for fun on Saturday.
I used to have the guy in the rubber suit.
I would have loved to have been the guy in the rubber suit.
They've always been horrible.
But the last one and this one look tremendous.
You're not going to see Godzilla this week?
Are you nuts?
I mean,
you were buying Matthew Broderick was running away from a lizard?
No, no, no.
Not the Matthew Brodericks.
That's two Godzillas ago.
That's two.
The one before this one.
Brian Franston.
Keep track of them back.
Oh, yeah.
Well, you need to, Bill O'Reilly.
Get your priorities right.
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Hello, America.
It's Friday.
We have Bill O'Reilly on.
Bill,
let's go to Louisiana, where the governor of Louisiana has just signed a major abortion bill.
He's a Democrat.
I want to talk to you a little bit about the abortion bills that are being passed and
how Hollywood is saying we won't do business in Georgia or any other of these states.
Your thoughts?
Well,
it's
a very difficult situation in the sense that this is a very personal decision
and
I don't believe it's framed properly by the press
so that Americans understand that it really is a life and death situation.
You don't ever hear that.
And that's the way I frame it.
So
you're going to be terminating a fetus who's not going to be able to have life, and that's what abortion is.
And that's why the vast majority of American doctors will not perform the operation.
Okay.
But then you have extenuating circumstances where violence is used on women, and you have catastrophic health problems, and
you have babies that are going to be born in a way that would make it almost impossible for them to live
in a natural way.
So I believe that good people
of conscience and people who really
understand that life is the most precious thing on this planet, human life, can sit down and write bills that are
humanitarian but at the same time protect innocent life.
I think it can be done.
But it's been so politicized and so
drawn into the hateful realm by the reproductive rights.
And if you are pro-life, you're anti-women and all of this horrible,
horrible discourse that it's depressing.
Now,
the United States is one country, but it's a bunch of different areas.
So in the South, it's a much more conservative social spectrum than it is in Los Angeles.
Everybody knows that.
I resent Disney and Comcast and all these people injecting themselves into this debate on an economic basis because this is what is happening.
Now, we'll boycott you if we don't like your political position.
Rather than trying to bring people together, why can't Disney hold a forum for the best minds in the country
to
discuss this situation and come up with rational ways to deal with it?
Why can't the Disney Corporation do that?
Why would the Disney Corporation do that?
I mean, I don't want a corporate.
I don't want a.
I'm tired of this tank.
It's not an imposition on you, Glenn Beck.
It's a think tank.
Do you want another think tank from the people of Disney?
I want a good movie from Disney.
I would like to have discussions, all right, among people of goodwill to come up with a framework where we can deal with the subject of abortion in a way that protects life.
Here's the framework.
Here's the framework.
That there is
a baby at some point that is a baby.
And we might disagree on when that's a baby or not.
I wouldn't disagree on it.
Anybody because I believe that
human DNA is present on conception.
Okay.
And that's a fact, so it is life right there.
Okay, all right.
So I happen to agree with you.
I have been in, instead of
a guy who said, yes, with exceptions of rape and incest, because I don't want to, but I'm not comfortable with that anymore.
I'm growing more and more uncomfortable with that every day.
Murder is murder.
It doesn't matter how it happened.
And it's my compassion that has always left that door kind of open, but I don't think that that's right.
However,
I think there are people with
good intent and they're honestly thinking about it that can say, all right, well, the heartbeat, or
until it's viable, which I don't buy into at all, but they're still good people.
And the way to deal with this is to continue to have conversation and continue to look at research and just not condemn those people of good conscience.
But
you can't do that anymore because you're not hearing reality.
When people say, well, that's not even a baby.
Until mom decides it's a baby, it's not a baby.
That's just ridiculous.
That you're a science denier.
You're an absolute science denier.
And I can't have a conversation with you because you're not being honest at all.
You're not looking for truth.
You have to lift it out of the emotion and you have to put it into the science community.
So this all happened because of the governor of Virginia, Mario
Andrew Cuomo, the governor of New York, Hillary Clinton, all of these high, high-level Democratic politicians who basically said to the nation, you know what?
Abortion should be on demand at any time for any reason.
Well, that horrified most Americans.
That position horrified most Americans.
So you can use abortion as birth control now?
Is that what you can do?
You can practice eugenics, as Supreme Court Justice Thomas pointed out, is that what you can do?
So the backlash against those people I just mentioned is what led to the heartbeat laws.
And what led to you changing your opinion, I believe, all right, is that we can't have a society that just throws human life away and worships at the altar of reproductive rights.
You said not a just society.
Here's the problem.
You said, well, we have to bring it back into science.
We do.
However, you know, I just reread Eisenhower's farewell speech.
And, you know, everybody knows it because he said, you know, the vast industrial, military-industrial complex.
But he said there's two things that we have to watch out for.
The second thing.
In holding scientific research and discovery in respect as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific technological elite.
What he was talking about where these universities were going to start getting lots of money for research.
And so they're going to start to do the things that the government wants.
They're going to start to have their own kind of elites.
And we could find ourselves in trouble because the same elites who are working with a military industrial complex, the same kind of thing is happening over in education and science.
And that's really where we are.
But science is leaning heavily toward the pro-life position.
So you're saying, wait, wait, wait.
You're saying scientific.
You're saying scientific fact.
Right.
Okay.
So
we didn't know about human DNA.
Now we know.
Yes.
And now we have ultrasound.
Now we have all of these things that all of them lean toward this is a person.
Okay.
And you can't cavalierly decapitate a person, even if it's not born yet.
So, all the science goes in that direction.
Yes.
All right, so I'm not worried about any of that.
What I'm worried about is that American young people in particular don't understand what the hell is going on here.
Because it's easy to rationalize behavior that's destructive.
You see it every day.
And the rationale they're given is it's it's not a human being, and it's the mother's
right,
human right and constitutional right, to do whatever she wants with it.
Do you know how many people believe that?
And it's never challenged.
It's not challenged by anybody
in the national television media.
I don't know any newspaper that challenges that.
Do you?
No.
Do you know one newspaper that challenges challenges that point of view?
And if you utter it, if you're in the entertainment industry, you don't work.
So I want
Disney, a Comcast, to start
to discuss this matter on a life-death basis.
That's where you start.
Now, would they do it?
No.
They'd never do it in a million years.
Iger would never do it because he is a politically correct guy who puts his finger up to the wind and says, well, this is what most of the Hollywood community believes, so I'm going to believe it too.
And that's why he's threatening Georgia.
So it's really sad that we've come to this place in this country where economic terror is used to promote bad policy.
If anybody thinks that abortion on demand, as we have now in New York State, for any reason, at any time, is good public policy, humane policy.
If anybody believes the founding fathers would have sanctioned that, they're not just stupid, they're crazy.
Well, anybody who thought Martin Luther King or Gandhi or Lincoln or any of the great heroes and thinkers of the past would have agreed with that.
They are crazy.
The people who would have agreed with that were people like Mengele and Goebbels and Hitler and Mussolini and Stalin.
It's never presented in public I know.
It's never presented.
So you have people, millions of Americans going blithely along buying into this mantra of women's rights.
It's my body.
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You know what?
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We have something genuinely horrific to tell you about Martin Luther King that came out in the last few days.
And
there's a lot of stuff behind this.
But first, let's get to what was said and who said it.
Yeah, David Garrow, who is a Pulitzer Prize-winning biographer of Martin Luther King.
So very credible source.
He has gotten a hold of a memo describing a tape.
So the tape exists, but it has not been heard.
It is supposedly not going to be released.
It's in the archives until 2027.
However, the memo that describes what's in the tapes has been seen by this guy who is completely credible when it comes to Martin Luther King.
He's a big lefty.
He is a big lefty, but I mean, he wrote like
the Pulitzer Prize-winning book on Martin Luther King.
Yes.
So the memo accompanying the tape alleges that Martin Luther King looked on and laughed as a pastor of Baltimore's Cornerstone Baptist Church raped a woman in the hotel room.
Again, this is supposedly on tape.
The FBI documents say that King had a conversation in which he, quote, discussed which women among the parishioners would be suitable for natural and unnatural sex acts.
The report goes on.
When one of the women protested that she did not approve, the Baptist minister
immediately and forcibly raped her.
Garrow wrote that the FBI agents did not intervene during the alleged rape.
So the FBI agents are there as well.
They had bugged the room
on the lamps in the room.
At the same hotel the same evening, or the same hotel in the following evening, excuse me, King and a dozen other individuals participated in a sex orgy.
When one of the women shied away from engaging in an unnatural act, King and several of the men discussed how
she was was going to be taught and initiated in this respect.
King told her to perform such an act would help your soul.
Again, this is all supposedly on tape.
Now, there is, I think, the asterisk you need to put next to it in that the FBI was looking for negative information on Martin Luther King at this time and perhaps is, you know, not, is, is describing these conversations in some way that isn't accurate or is misleading, though I don't know.
I mean, these are quotes.
Unless the tape, if the tape has been erased, I think you could say, all right, well, maybe they were lying.
However, you know, it's pointing to a tape that supposedly exists and will be released in 2027.
So now, here is,
here are the questions.
First of all, is there a tape?
Is this coming from a credible source?
It is coming from a credible source.
We do know the FBI was taping.
What would the motivation of the source be to release this?
Well,
he is the king biographer.
He is the guy who is recognized around the world as being the guy that has captured Martin Luther King in the best way.
He has been positive about Martin Luther King.
He's not doing a hatchet job on him, never has.
So what would his motivation be?
I want to get to that when we come back, because it is telling.
the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment
there is a conversation we started a few minutes ago about an audio tape that supposedly is in existence
that has Martin Luther King watching a rape of a woman and laughing about it engaged in an orgy and saying horrible horrible things if this is true this completely changes Martin Luther King.
I mean, how do you have a statue of King?
Now, the question is,
where did this information come from?
And why is it coming out now?
The answer is,
I think, one of the most important answers that you can find today.
And I'll give it to you in one minute.
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All right, so let's get back into this Martin Luther King conversation that we were having with Stu.
There is a Pulitzer Prize-winning author.
He's not a hack.
He is not from the right.
He has no reason to put this out, or so you would think.
He would have no reason to put this out about Martin Luther King if it weren't true.
He is the
guy who is the expert on Martin Luther King.
He is embraced by everybody on the left and everybody who's a King fan.
This is the ultimate biography of Martin Luther King.
He wrote it in the 80s.
Now he has just come out with a document that says that the government has a tape.
It has not been released, but it has been heard.
Well,
there's a memo describing it written by the FBI.
Right, that he has.
The FBI has heard it.
Yes, and they transcribed it and summarized it.
Correct.
And he has that memo.
So it hasn't been heard by anybody today that we know of.
This is just a memo that is showing what tapes they have on Martin Luther King.
We know that J.
Edgar Hoover was making tapes of Martin Luther King.
Kennedy and Johnson were spying on King because Hoover thought that he was a communist and also thought he was very low of moral character.
Now, these things have all always been denied.
Well, the moral character one, there's been evidence of, right?
I mean, you know, in the story, it talks about how they thought he had 10 to 12 mistresses throughout his life, and they think now the number is more like 40 or 45.
It's a lot.
Okay.
It keeps you busy.
Now,
the question that you should ask is
because we don't know if this tape, until this tape is released in 2027, and I would urge, for history's sake, that that tape is released if it exists, or any other tapes are released long before 2027.
In fact, in the next 18 to two years, 18 months to two years, because digital audio deep fakes are not good yet.
By 2027, you will not believe your eyes and you will not believe your ears.
So any audio tape
after really 2020, 2022, you're not going to believe.
It won't make any impact.
So if you want to know if this is true, that tape and any other tapes like it for anything should be released now.
Because we don't have the technology to fake them yet.
Why would this guy do this?
This guy is a celebrated leftist.
This puts him in the outs.
And you could say, well, he just wants to tell the truth.
Okay,
maybe so.
Maybe so.
When did he get this memo?
Who gave this memo to him?
And who is he?
Now we know that he's been a
lefty, but what does that mean?
In his own words, he is a
what did he call himself?
A quintessential Bernie Sanders donor.
And he said he is also a democratic socialist
and has been at times an enthusiastic participator in democratic socialism.
Okay?
This is the author.
This is the author that has released this information.
Why would you release this information?
Why would you release this information now?
Well, what is
democratic socialism?
Democratic socialism,
for it to come true, several things have to happen.
But one,
you must destroy anyone who talks about the individual.
Democratic socialist, it is not about the individual.
It is about the collective.
What is
the hardest thing for a socialist to get around or any of these people who
are talking about social justice now, the way it's interpreted today,
the biggest obstacle they have is Martin Luther King because he is still for individual salvation.
Content of character.
Content.
Judge me by the content of my character, not the color of my skin.
And I see a day when blacks and whites can play together.
Okay?
That's his his message.
Well, that's a very conservative message, quite frankly.
Today, especially.
Yes.
His message of America, live up to your founding documents.
All men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain rights.
That is not a democratic socialist message, nor is it helpful to those who are democratic socialists.
You must destroy that, but you have to destroy it in such a spectacular way.
Now, think of this.
If this is true,
that tape was released.
That he watched and laughed as a rape was going on.
As it was going on, if he was saying these horrible, horrible things to a woman in an orgy,
is he a guy we have a Martin Luther King Day for?
Is he a guy we have statues for, boulevards named after?
That's a really bad guy.
If you're going to pull down statues of people from 1800, you've got to pull down a guy from 1960 because 1960 was not about that either.
At least that's not what we were told he was about.
And I'm sure you can find many civil rights activists that did not participate in rapes.
Exactly right.
So you could have a holiday still about some civil rights activist, but can you have a holiday for a guy who watched a rape on tape?
And laughed?
And laughed about it?
I don't know if he can.
Can you have statues for that person?
I don't know if he can.
he can even though you can still say what he said was good you cannot hold him up to be you can hold his words up but you cannot hold him up to be that guy okay
what they have to do is destroy him and his words and that's the problem they don't just destroy thomas jefferson they destroy his words right and because he was such a bad person all of his words are disqualified from being positive and to your point here listen to this quote from the author.
He said, the new information, quote, poses so fundamental a challenge to his historical stature as to require the most complete and extensive historical review possible.
I mean, that is a, I mean, that is like,
if this is true, and again, we don't 100% know that it is, though it's in FBI documents, and there's apparently a tape showing that he actually did this.
If it's clear on tape, I mean, can the American people stand by and say,
allow that to go on?
You know, you take Martin Luther King Day a national holiday?
And what does that do for, what does that do to African Americans?
I mean, God, you think the Bill Cosby thing was jarring, right?
Like, here's a guy who's a popular sitcom host in the 80s or like
a really popular singer in the king of pop.
He had his issues.
This guy's like
the guy when it comes to civil rights in the United States of America.
And I would say a rape is a violation of civil rights.
I'm going to go out and say it.
I think it is.
So it's going to be difficult to hold if that tape exists and it is as
described in this story and multiple others.
It's almost incomprehensible you'd have a holiday for that person.
I mean, I'm not sure.
So here is the
story.
That's the story.
But here's the real story behind that.
Why
Who leaked that?
How did it get to him?
When did it get to him?
Why?
Is he an honest broker, or is he a Democratic socialist
who is a strong activist who understands you've got to destroy him?
Is this part of a movement of destroying
all of our heroes and turning everything upside down and inside out?
I think it is.
I think it is.
Think about losing Martin Luther King.
African Americans have had all of their heroes taken away.
All of their heroes have been taken away.
Now,
Martin Luther King is destroyed?
Not marginalized, destroyed.
How does that leave the African American looking at history?
Is there anyone?
Is there anyone they can look up to in American history?
Or that a white guy won't destroy, right?
Yes.
Here's a white guy bringing out all this information with probably white FBI agents and everything else.
I mean, it's going to be hard not to look at that.
This is not good.
No.
This is not.
I mean, I just don't know how you ignore it.
You know, I don't know how you look at a story like this.
If it's true, you can't just ignore it.
You can't just.
Well, the media has.
The media pretty much has.
Yeah, I mean, there's definitely been coverage of it, but
it hasn't been as big a story as you would think.
I mean, certainly, if this story came out about some conservative religious figure that was.
Imagine this came out about Billy Graham.
Right.
There were tapes on Billy Graham.
Can you imagine what they'd be doing to Billy Graham?
Oh, my gosh.
And I think they just don't know what to do with it.
They did people like Jim Baker for having an affair.
They destroyed the guy.
But remember, remember,
this is coming from the left, not the Democrats, from the Democratic Socialist.
This is coming from a guy who says, I'm in with the Bernie Sanders crew.
Who did we introduce you to last night with Bernie Sanders crew?
What picture are you starting to see about who Bernie Sanders surrounds himself with?
You have to watch that episode if you didn't see it last night.
If you want to understand this Martin Luther King thing and see how it might fit in, you look at this guy's credentials, what he says about how a big supporter he he is of Bernie Sanders, and you then drop in this piece, and all of a sudden you start to understand exactly what's happening in our society.
By the way, if this is true,
there had to be other civil rights activists that knew about this at the time.
There had to be other people,
press members.
What happened to them?
You've been lied to.
If this is true, America has been lied to from everyone on the Democratic Democratic left, everyone on the Democratic left, and all the media.
Because people had to know about this stuff.
If he had 40 mistresses, they knew about it.
I mean, we did know he was
some sketchy parts of him for sure.
But I mean,
he's doing orgies.
He's doing orgies.
With multiple prostitutes in hotels all over the country.
It's hard to imagine that was not more.
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this weekend, I'm going to introduce you to somebody you may not know.
She is somebody who has traditionally been thought of as being on the left.
She is somebody that was, she was a writer for Playboy.
I personally think she is
a female Ernest Hemingway of our day.
Her writing is unbelievable.
It's dangerous.
It is
provocative,
but it is full of some real universal truths.
Well,
she is shocking herself because she's realizing I'm not one of those people.
I'm not a, wait, I'm, I'm not a socialist.
I don't think I'm even.
I mean, I still want to call myself liberal, but I think I'm a classic liberal.
And that kind of sounds like I'm a conservative.
And she is being shunned.
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She's being shunned.
And she's starting her whole life over.
And she is so honest and raw and funny.
She is truly one of my favorite people now.
I didn't know how we would get along at all.
And
this is what she had to say about
kind of coming out and going, wait, I guess maybe, I mean, I don't want to say I'm a conservative, but I believe these things.
Listen to this.
We used to be great because we had had differing opinions and we would push back and meet kind of hopefully somewhere in the middle.
And it was this swing.
And now it just feels like no one is listening to each other.
And it seems to be increasing as we approach 2020.
My hope for people is that they
understand the urge to retreat into a tribe because it's
scary.
And it's natural.
It's natural.
It's also terrifying when you're out there just alone in the middle trying to be nuanced.
God forbid you get battered by everyone and so i you feel really alone yeah there's nobody
there will be people who will read you and will support you but they won't share me will not share it no i've had people reach out to me and say i love that article i can never share it and so then it is that isolating feel i you know being in la i think without twitter i would have gone crazy because I felt so ideologically isolated.
I thought I was losing my my mind when I started pushing back a little bit and feeling.
And so much of it is insidious.
That is what I always say about censorship.
You know, people when they say they'll push back and say, well, they're not knocking on your door and they're not locking you up for saying, yet it starts in the mind.
Self-censorship.
Censorship starts here.
It starts when you start being quiet and putting your head down and not the other way.
She's phenomenal and very, very funny.
You've been a fan of hers for a while, haven't you, Stu?
Yeah.
Yeah, she's great.
You know,
there's very few people I feel like that can cut through this world because, you know, when it comes to especially online stuff, because so many people are just like, I say the same 12 things every day.
And I will, you know, I mean, think about the people that you know, 90% of them that are in the media right now, you can just cookie cut or you know what their opinion is going to be on every topic.
And so I have really found myself interested interested in people that I don't necessarily know or bring up points that I hadn't heard or think about things in a different way.
One of the things that I liked about her, and these are the best.
This is such a great series.
Once a week, every Saturday, I put out an interview with somebody, and they last about 90 minutes.
And they're fascinating.
And the best people are like Bridget.
She was...
I think there's the longest pause from a guest I've ever had.
And it wasn't that
she was censoring herself.
She was thinking about something for the first time and trying to describe, well, okay, this is how I feel.
And trying to find
the words.
So it's really raw.
There's no packaging.
And it's authentic.
And that's why she's cutting through.
And
she's becoming a much bigger star now, just not with mainstream either side.
And she's, the raw thing is perfect with her because she, you know, she went through major struggles with alcohol and drugs and all sorts of crazy in her life.
She's crazy.
Rape.
She'd admit that.
She sort of lives on the edge of things.
You know, like I, you know, she's not always, not every day she wakes up and everything's perfect.
Like she's not what it is.
Oh, no.
She's like a person where she still struggles with a lot of this stuff.
And it gives her this sense of like, she's just out there admitting it.
She's like, I don't know how else to do this.
I'm just going to blurt it all out and see what happens.
And that's a, that makes for a really interesting conversation yeah really great conversation you're going to end up loving her uh british uh i keep saying british uh bridget fetesy is uh the podcast guest this week you can get it at apple or wherever you listen to podcasts uh just sign up rate and review please sign up rate and review for the podcast it helps other people discover it you're listening to glenn beck
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uh a uh a good friend uh and co-worker of mine uh mark levin welcome to the program how are you sir glenn beck good how are you i am great mark i have to tell you i was up on vacation i bought your book and i bought the audio book and um i'm I downloaded it last Tuesday
and I was painting for the day.
And I put my earbuds in, and
lo and behold, about five o'clock in the afternoon, I stop, and I've been painting, and my family keeps walking in and out of the room.
And as I pull my earbuds off, they're all laughing at me.
And I said, What?
And they said, We have really enjoyed you today, Dad.
And I said,
Okay, how?
I mean, we haven't even talked to each other.
And they said, All day long, we've been listening to you go, uh-huh, yes,
yes,
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Wow.
And it was all me commenting on your book the entire day.
Really, really well written.
Really well written, and a lot of great information.
So, congratulations on your number one status.
The name of the book is Unfreedom of the Press.
Mark, tell me, tell the audience why this is not just a
why this is a book that
transcends today's politics.
First of all, you're very kind.
Now, are you painting paintings or are you painting the walls?
No, I'm painting paintings, yeah.
Really?
Yeah,
I call them 10-hour memes, but
I'll send you some stuff.
I would love to see them.
Yeah, thanks.
First of all, you're very kind, and I very much appreciate it.
The question was, I think, why did I write this book?
Well, look, the reason it transcends politics is because it's about the Constitution.
And the Constitution transcends politics.
The Constitution's about our rights and our liberties and protecting them.
And so, you know, Glenn, I've written a lot about the Constitution and American history and philosophy.
And I said, you know what?
One area I don't know a lot about is the history of the press.
And they're in our face.
They're in our living room.
They're in our bedrooms.
They are berating us.
They are propagandizing to us.
They're wrapping themselves in the First Amendment.
I think I need to get to the bottom of this.
And so I did what I always do.
I said to my wife, I'll see you in about 16 months.
So
you have no idea what she said to me.
One day when we meet, she'll tell you.
So anyway,
so that means nights and weekends, and that's what I do.
You know, some people play golf or whatever.
This is what I do.
I dug in the history of the media.
It's not a history book, but some of that's necessary, so we have perspective.
We have the Patriot Press before the Revolution, before the Revolution, with the printers, you know, moving their printing presses, being chased by the British.
And they were really unique in the original Patriots, because they are the ones who pushed the ideas of the Enlightenment.
They are the ones who pushed the ideas of Aristotle and Cicero and Locke.
And they were spreading them among the colonists.
And, you know, Obama talks about fundamental transformation.
They didn't want to fundamentally transform society or human nature.
They wanted to fundamentally transform government.
They were living under a tyranny.
They wanted representation.
They didn't like big taxes.
They didn't like to be pushed around by government.
They believed in property rights, all these things that you and I and our audiences believe in.
And so they pushed a revolution.
And the word got out.
You know, there were about three dozen newspapers, that's it.
There were several hundred pamphlets and pamphleteers.
And word would get out slowly, and this information would be published, and people would discuss it.
They discuss it in their pubs, at home, and so forth.
Frankly, much like we do on talk radio,
this is really a unique format because there's really no other national format where this occurs, but they would do it at a local level.
And so,
just to jump quickly, you had the revolution, and soon after the revolution, you had the party press.
This is the part of the book that I found
really fascinating because you point out
the people knew when you got the Democratic ledger, you knew
what it was, that it was an organ for it was that point of view coming at you.
And so you could read the Democrat and you could read the Republican, and you'd balance them yourselves.
They weren't masquerading as
fair and balanced.
No.
In fact, in some cases, publishers and editors were on the payroll of the post office or something like that, depending on the administration.
It was a very rough period for the press, but they were very honest about who they were, as you point out.
You have papers today, the Arkansas Democrat Gazette, the Arizona Republic was the Arizona Republican.
So they were full-throated about candidates, parties, causes they supported.
Then you move through, and I passed the yellow journalism period because it's not that interesting.
And then you move through to the early part of the last century, the progressive movement, of which you're well familiar.
The progressive movement was ubiquitous.
They really, it is a poison that that spread into all aspects of our society.
And John Dewey, as you know, one of the intellectuals behind that movement,
he focused specifically on schooling and the media.
And just so the audience understands, the purpose here, as typical, was to have a relative handful of people determine what news is, digest it, analyze it, interpret it, and then burp it up for the rest of us.
You really captured the progressive disease really well in explaining it.
You know, it's funny, I was attacked in the Washington Post yesterday, and I love these guys because they prove the point of the book, and I take my time going through their attack on me, which is usually personal, and I don't really care.
But they do exactly what I say in the book.
They are exactly as I say in the book because they are who they are.
And so you have people, Lippmann and others, saying at the time that people are too busy or they're too stupid, so we'll figure this stuff out.
And this went on for a while.
And then you get up to a few decades ago, where on top of that they added social activism.
They call themselves public press or community press, and they've really bought into
Alinsky tactics and these other tactics of the hard left.
It's being pushed in journalism school.
A lot of these guys haven't gone to journalism school.
They come out of the Democrat Party, come out of an administration, or this is their mindset regardless.
And so today what we're getting on TV is a one-party press rather than a two-party press that is pushing the progressive agenda and social activism.
That's why there's not a dime's worth of difference between most of the media and the Democrat Party today.
They're just
honest to God.
And in the first chapter, I show you the surveys, I show you the research, I show you the professors, I show you some of the reporters, what they're saying.
There's very little diversity in newsrooms today.
There's very little diversity in reporting today.
You can predict what they're going to say.
The only debate on the left in the media today really is, do we come out and say who we are like a lot of them are doing now?
Yes, we're liberals, we're progressives, and thank God for us, thank God we know what the news is, or there wouldn't have been a civil rights movement or
climate change issue.
So they really believe they are the truth-tellers.
And then the other side, like the New York Times today, saying, well, you know, we don't want all of our people on measly CNN and MSNBC because they have a different view, which is, yes, we're all those things, but we really don't want to admit it.
Correct.
Because we're the paper of record, you know.
And
they're not.
They're just,
they live in these circles that allow them to believe that they are the fair and balanced one, that they are the, well, no, we're just, we are the paper of record.
They live in those circles and they don't, they don't care to meet.
In fact, I think they despise most of the people that live in the center of the country or have different points of view.
And so it's just a self-fulfilling
label for them.
You are exactly right.
Most of them live in the same areas, generally, you know, within within a 40-50 mile radius of Washington or New York, most of them.
Even the new so-called left-wing reporters live in mostly blue Hillary Clinton counties.
Studies have been done on this.
They self-identify as either Democrat or liberal in large numbers.
The last survey showed about 4% identifying as conservatives.
It's much like universities, where faculty hire faculty, so they pick the same ideological
ideology that people share and take them out of the same Ivy League schools.
It's a lot of that is the same.
But the New York Times I focused on in particular because this is held up as the gold standard.
And the gold standard isn't worth crap.
And I go back and do the history of the New York Times during the Holocaust and the history of the New York Times when Stalin was wiping out the Ukrainians.
And when you look at this.
That's the part where my family was hearing me go, yes, yes, finally, yes.
And you know what, Glenn?
If you read that chapter, you will never view the New York Times the same again.
No.
The New York Times, and
I pulled from some of the greatest scholars on this subject, during the Holocaust, the New York Times did everything it could to bury the Holocaust in the back pages of its newspaper.
The New York Times did this for several reasons.
Number one, FDR wanted to tamp down the focus on the Holocaust.
The New York Times liked FDR, liked the New Deal agenda.
Number two, I'm Jewish.
It was owned by a Jewish family.
They didn't want the New York Times to be viewed mostly as a niche Jewish newspaper.
So they felt that they really shouldn't focus on the Holocaust.
The owner, the publisher, Sulzberger, was sort of a secular Jew, and he didn't like these Jewish organizations in New York lobbying him for a Jewish state.
And that kind of turned him off.
And all of that was poured into the pages or poured into the mindset of the New York Times.
So while the European Jews are being wiped out, whole towns, the Jews are missing.
It's being reported in in European newspapers and eyewitnesses.
They would have none of it.
And it wasn't until 1944
where the vast majority of the American people were informed of the extent of the extermination of the Jews during the Holocaust.
And I ask yourself this.
Is there any other business that could survive having done that and be called the paper of record?
No.
It is a disgrace.
And
they come up with these weasel-worded so-called apologies about it.
And then you look 10 years earlier, they had a guy, Walter Duranti, who was their correspondent for 12 years in Moscow.
He was in Stalin's back pocket.
And Stalin decides that these darn Ukrainian
peasants will not buckle to my commune ideology.
So rather than shooting him one at a time, he decides...
to wipe out the entire population if he can.
He cuts off the Ukraine from all communication, all transportation, all food and water.
These poor people are cannibalizing each other.
Solzhenitsyn talks about the Ukrainians trying to get into the gulag to try to get some food at late at night.
They could hear them at the gates.
A couple of British reporters go in from the Manchester Guardian.
They see it.
They report it.
Mr.
Duranty, on the payroll of the New York Times, says it's not happening.
You know, they're having a harvest issue.
They're just working out the stuff.
And as far as Stalin goes, you know
that old saying, sometimes you got to break a few eggs?
That comes from him.
He wrote that in an article for the New York Times.
He trashed the British journalists who were reporting on what was taking place.
The executives at the New York Times had to know.
And you know, he got a Pulitzer Prize, and they still haven't given back the Pulitzer Prize for this.
This is what I point out.
So when you see the New York Times, when the Hamas is shooting missiles in the Tel Aviv, and somehow the New York Times is defending Hamas and trashing Israel.
That's nothing new.
Nothing new.
And when they run these Holocaust-like cartoons, oh, they got by our editor.
You know, a lot has gotten by your editor, as a matter of fact.
I want the people to know that's the New York Times.
Mark Levin
is the author of the number one New York Times bestseller, Unfreedom of the Press.
Unfreedom of the press.
He had stiff competition, went up against Howard Stern, and gave Howard Stern only a one-week number one status.
Mark just took it.
It is so well worth the read.
It's not a political hatchet job and not just about Donald Trump or whatever.
This is truly an understanding of the press and what's happened, where we've been, and where we need to go.
Really important book, and you'll learn a lot, and it's really well written.
A must for everybody's bookshelf.
Mark Levin, thank you so much.
Glenn.
God bless you, my friend.
God bless you.
Take care.
Thank you.
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Well, it's Friday.
I suggest that we cancel all Mondays and have four-day work weeks every week, at least during the summer.
I mean,
who's with me?
Joe Scarborough, we want to leave you with a laugh.
Joe Scarborough said this about Nancy Pelosi and Trump.
Flood the zone with facts that an impeachment inquiry would do.
Then I think
you could actually
move a lot of Americans.
I will say though, Nancy Pelosi has to be calculating.
Abraham Lincoln was calculating in saving the Union.
Early in the war he had said if the country has to be half slave, half free, if that saves the Union, then I'm for that.
If saving the Union is required by letting all go free, then I am for that.
He was very calculating and he moved to the position when he thought the American people were ready to move towards the emancipation of slaves.
So I'm not being critical of Nancy Pelosi here.
I will say though, there are times though to not calculate.
And I would say when you have a president who's abused power more than any other president, not only in our lifetime, I just can't think of any historical presidents.
Wow.