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Tucker Carlson is the latest.

I don't know how they're going to stand up against this barrage.

This is an evil organization, Media Matters, that has gone in and tried to find stuff that nobody was pissed about, that they can be pissed about.

We talk about that at length today, kind of something that went all the way through the show.

We also have Justin Haskins on.

He's a guy who wrote

a book called Socialism is Evil.

We had David J.

Harris on.

He's a guy who was giving speeches at Blexit

in Los Angeles.

He's a guy who really never was political at all.

And then we started talking about, hey, let's kill babies shortly after birth.

He's not silent anymore.

Also, we had a call from Bubba the Love Sponge to talk about the Tucker Carlson debacle and John Lott.

John Lott is talking about the red flag gun laws and the laws that are trying, they're trying to enforce now

in Washington state.

And if a sheriff doesn't do it, the governor said he's going to arrest them.

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On Tucker Carlson, he responded to what Media Matters is doing now to him.

We've seen this movie before.

We've seen somebody chased out by something they said in old comments.

But the comments that I have seen are from a Bubba the Love Sponge show,

which isn't always known for its tact

and its acceptance in polite society.

Yeah, it's amazing.

I was amazed at all the people, the blue check marks on Twitter, shocked that there could be a show named Bubba the Love Sponge.

Coming from, I swear, the same people who wrote think piece after think piece about how the death of Gawker was the death of journalism.

You do remember that he was very

prominent in that story with Hulk Hogan, and that was the whole story surrounded Bubba the Love Sponge.

The guy's one of the most successful radio hosts in the country and has been for a long time.

These are the same people that listen to Howard Stern every day.

Stop it.

Oh, my panties are so dainty.

Oh, shut up.

Oh, at one point they're like, you know, he's like, Elena Kagan is not attractive.

And then they have the cable news thing that they do, Glenn, because they'll play the clips.

And it's like Tucker Carlson says something that's offensive and then comes out to silence.

Wow.

Um,

I

okay, uh, whoo,

ah, okay, uh, hold on, let me just gather myself.

He, he just, he's, he's

no, he just stayed.

I just, oh,

I am, what, I can't, can you even believe?

Wow, a lot of people might.

This is how I got my job on CNN.

Hold on.

Woo!

I've never, he said said darn.

Hold on.

Pull yourself together.

Pull yourself together.

Pull yourself together.

You know you can get through this.

You know you can get through this.

Oh my gosh.

He

okay.

You

heard that.

I, he, they have not a pause.

Oh, no.

Could we play the clip again?

Could we play the clip again?

I don't think I could hear that again.

All right.

No.

This fake outrage

is so bad.

You are not outraged by the woman who had to take her 17-year-old daughter in her arms.

She weighs 20 pounds.

20.

She had to take her up in her own arms and walk her to the morgue because

the socialist can't run a power plant.

She died.

She starved to death under socialism.

You people brought that to Venezuela.

You are the very people that held Chavez up as a great model.

You were the people that cheered that Barack Obama took that anti-American book from Chavez.

You said this was great.

Now you're saying, oh, well, yes, but it's not Chavez, it's Maduro.

No, no, no, no, no.

That's called democratic socialism.

You want the people to be able to vote and they did.

They voted in a bus driver who could feel the pain of the people

and then he became president and lo and behold he didn't know how to run the country.

You see, you have a problem when you set something up under one guy and then you have a democracy, a democracy, not a republic, a democracy that has direct elections.

And so they elected this guy because socialism is neat and he'll give us even more stuff.

And as soon as it went wrong, guess what happens?

He shuts off elections.

He tampers with the elections.

Now you can claim, well,

he wasn't really elected.

Yes, he was once.

This is how it always ends with democratic socialists.

This is the way it always ends.

And you are upset about something that Tucker Carlson said on a comedy show, a show called Bubba the Love Sponge.

You are somehow shocked and horrified that he might have said something in 2006.

And anyone who defends Tucker Carlson, oh my gosh, well, look at the anti, the anti-female, the misogynist,

the anti-homosexual

tirade just continues now with this person.

No, no.

I don't necessarily agree or disagree with anything that Tucker Carlson said, but I am not going to be outraged by something that was said in a comedic sense in 2006 when people have to go carry their dead children who

weighed more at their death than my six-year-old son did,

and they're 10 years older.

I really am going to kind of put my outrage in the right place.

And I really,

really am not going to accept the moral outrage and the moral lectures from Media Matters.

Media Matters is the biggest hack job you've ever seen.

It is a direct threat to the American Republic.

And anyone who is a journalist, you are being fed propaganda and you're gobbling it up knowingly.

You know who these people are.

You don't care.

You'll take anyone to anyone who stands in your way and you will just paint them all the same and you'll destroy them.

I got news for you.

After you lose the voices like mine, like Tucker's, people who will actually stand up for you when you are in trouble for what you said.

And you, we will stand up.

And I have a long record of it.

Standing up for people like Bill Maher

weeks after 9-11 and ABC fires him.

I have a record of standing up for James Gunn, who said horrible things about a friend of mine, but I didn't think he should be fired.

I will stand up for you, but after you silence voices like me,

oh,

I will be standing somewhere, be it in under a bridge or in a prison.

It doesn't matter where they put me.

All I want is access to a little bit of news to watch, to see how long it will will be before you join me under that bridge before you join me in the next cell because after they come for us they come for you but maybe perhaps oh I wish I hope oh rainbows are ponies

I know you believe that this time they'll get it right

but seeing democratic socialism seems to always end the same way

I'll see you under that bridge soon.

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In the free market system, Stu,

I could come up with my Cinnabon perfume and I'd let the market, I'd let the people decide, not like you in your socialist democracy.

I have Justin Haskins on who's gonna, to who's going to agree with me.

The free market is the right way to figure this Cinnabon thing out, isn't it, Justin?

Yeah,

I think it's the right way to go.

I certainly don't want the government coming up with a Cinnabon perfume.

Well, they wouldn't.

They wouldn't.

They wouldn't.

They would never do that.

I don't know what the people want.

Right, right.

All right.

So you are the author of Socialism is Evil.

And I've been reading it, and it's a quick read.

It's like, what is it, 80 pages?

Yeah, like 75 pages or something.

So it's a quick read, and it is made for,

you have anybody in your life that is a socialist.

You have anybody going to school that is a socialist.

This is a quick starter on why socialism is evil.

And I wanted to get you on to

make the case, but I want to talk to you about a couple of things.

First of all, tell me the difference between socialism and communism and democratic socialism, is there a difference?

Yeah, in my opinion, there's absolutely no difference at all.

And actually, if you read a lot of socialist material produced by modern socialist parties today, the Socialist Party of Great Britain, various socialist groups in the United States, they will flat out say there's basically no difference.

between communism and socialism and that democratic socialism, what's being called democratic socialism or European style socialism, this is basically just incrementalism.

It's moving us toward this grand socialist utopia that Karl Marx has all mapped out for us in the future.

They don't want to do it right now at this very moment because they realize that people aren't ready for it.

They would never go for it.

But they want to move us in that direction.

And at the end of the day, the goal is the same.

We want to go to a world where everybody has exactly what they need and nobody has what they want.

We have, Justin, I have said this recently, and every time I say it, people are like, oh, no, no, no.

I believe we are at the end of the American progressive era.

The progressives took it now as far as they can take it.

Now it's time to take off the mask because progressive was

really European socialism.

It is, let's take this, and we're not going to cause a riot or, well, riots we will cause, but no revolution.

We don't want blood in the streets.

We're just going to move it incrementally and people will eventually want it.

And we'll call it progressivism.

Now we're at the point to where you got to name it.

And what you're naming is not America.

It is a fundamental flipping of the Constitution and of the Bill of Rights.

And it's now socialism.

Yeah,

that's exactly right.

We're moving toward a society at a rapid pace where you don't have any individual rights.

You don't have any individual property rights.

You don't really have freedom of speech.

We're seeing that slowly being eroded away.

That all of these things are going to go away in favor of the collective because the collective is what really matters.

And anyone who's interested in this should read the Soviet Constitution.

The Soviet Constitution is amazing.

It skips a front end.

In some parts, it says you have freedom of, you have a right to freely practice your religion or free speech.

And then in other parts, it says, well, only if it doesn't bother the collective.

If it gets in the way of what the collective wants, well, then actually, you don't really have those rights.

And that's what modern democratic socialism in the United States is moving us toward.

This society where you as an individual don't matter.

What matters is what the collective wants.

And if your desires, your beliefs, your religious beliefs, your moral beliefs, if that gets in the way of what's good for the collective, and who gets to decide that?

Well, the collective, I guess, then too bad for you.

You need to just shut up and sit down.

down.

Democratic socialism, they're saying, no,

we want democracy.

We want people to have the vote.

But then they deny when something like Venezuela happens.

They'll say, oh, well,

that's not a democratic socialist.

Well, yes, he was.

Maduro was elected until the wheels came off.

And then he said, you know, because

we're in a dangerous situation now,

I can't let that election happen the way it's supposed to happen.

And then he rigged the election and eventually stops all elections.

That is the logical conclusion because you could hire Jesus,

but Jesus, because he's not really Jesus, is going to die.

You could have Gandhi do it.

But once he dies, the next guy comes in.

And people vote him in.

If he's corrupt, it's autocratic.

There's no restraint on him.

Yeah, that's true.

And even if you could have, and this is something I get into in the book, I mean, even if you could have this mythical world where everyone is collectively owning and managing property and everybody is happy with collectively owning and managing property temporarily, even if you could somehow do this without completely eroding people's liberty, without throwing people into concentration camps and doing all the things that socialist and communist parties have done for the past 100 years, even if you have to find a way to do that, you still have

important moral controversies that occur in life.

For instance, in a single-payer healthcare system, do you pay for abortion or not?

Do you pay for contraception or not?

Are you going to force nuns to pay for abortion and contraception or aren't you?

If you have a socialized healthcare system, you can't escape those questions.

The collective decides what society is going to do.

And if you happen to be in the minority, if you're a moral minority, well, too bad.

You either have to go along or you have to go to prison.

But those are your only two options.

You bring up the moral case, and this is part of what you're talking about.

To me, the moral case

for the free market

is dirt strong.

And the moral case against socialism perhaps is even stronger.

Because of things, as you point out, you're going to have to, you know, alcohol, you say in the book, alcohol, 40% of America, I can't believe it's that high, but 40% of America says, you know, drinking is immoral.

Well, are they going to be, are they going to have to own the alcohol production?

And how do you force somebody to do it?

You mentioned it with birth control.

But there's more to the moral case, and I think we're seeing it in Venezuela.

You're killing people.

Yeah,

and that's the thing.

Socialism inevitably leads to

complete chaos because anytime you try to force people to receive the same amount of wealth for doing the same amount of work as people who are working not nearly as hard as you are, it's a race to the bottom across an entire society.

People stop working hard because there's no incentive to work hard.

And normally you incentivize people by giving them a profit, by paying them more money.

But you can't do that in a socialist society.

So how do you convince people to work harder?

Well, you put a gun to the back of their head and you say, work harder.

And if you say, well, we don't like this, then you go to prison, you go to the internment camp, and you learn your lesson, and then you get to come back in society and be a slave for the rest of your life.

That's how socialism inevitably works.

It fails every single time because it's in fundamental violation of human nature.

Right.

And

you get into this socialism's fatal flaw, where you

talk about

its flaw is that it denies human nature.

But

expand on that.

Expand on that.

Humans,

as I was just saying, humans are motivated by their own individual achievements, by their own goals, by

what would benefit them and their families.

That's just a fact.

That's what motivates humans.

Socialism.

flips that on its head and says, stop caring about yourself.

Stop caring about your family.

Stop caring about your kids.

None of that matters.

What matters is the collective.

Sacrifice yourself for the good of the collective.

And when you try to do that, I mean, just think about this in your personal life.

Think about this in your own workplace.

I mean, everybody who's worked a job knows that there are people at the company who are working quite as hard as you're working and how that makes people feel around the office.

I mean, it never works out well because, at a fundamental human level, we understand that it's not fair to reward people equally for disproportionate amounts of work.

Even kids understand this.

This is basic human nature.

And yet, Karl Marx and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders and all of these people would like to pretend that these things don't exist.

This whole system is completely delusional.

And when you read Communist Manifesto, that's what you walk away with.

You say, well, how can, you know, a lot of people talk about, well, why do kids on college campuses read communist manifesto and become socialists and you know obviously there are a lot of professors out there indoctrinating kids with communism and socialist ideas no question about that but i think that a simpler solution is that they're just all high and drunk and stoned out of their mind and that those are the only people who would ever find this to be an appealing system it doesn't make sense yet you know what If you've had four joints, then yeah, Communist Manifesto makes a lot of sense.

But if you're not stoned, it's completely illogical.

Like I said, even little kids understand it.

Well, they say that communism or socialism, socialism is about sharing.

And yes, kids don't, you know, you say they understand that socialism is wrong or the communist manifesto doesn't make sense.

But that's why we have to teach children about sharing because they don't automatically know about sharing.

And that's what that's about.

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I have been saying for a while that courage is contagious and we need to look for people with courage and highlight them and show them to our sons and daughters because it is contagious.

When you see somebody who is standing up against all the odds, you

well, at least in the America that I know, you can't help but admire them.

I want to introduce you to one of those guys with tons of courage, David Harris Jr.

He is the author of Why I Couldn't Stay Silent.

Welcome.

Glenn, amazing to be on your show today, brother.

Thank you so much for having me.

Honored to have you.

Honored to have you.

Honored to be here.

You are a guy.

I want to start young.

You're a guy who was raised in a Christian home.

Yes.

You're a black man, in case anybody's listening on radio and doesn't know.

And I got to add biracial.

My mom is white.

Okay.

My dad is black.

Okay.

So most people, when they look at me, they don't think anything other.

I'm a part of the black community, but I have an interesting dynamic in the book where I talk about I got to enjoy

family gatherings at my mom's side of the family,

family gatherings at my dad's side of the family, and how completely different they were.

But I've dealt with my share, plenty of share of racism.

So let's talk about that because you then

really

could complain that you don't fit in either.

I felt that way for a long time, actually.

Okay.

I did.

Growing up in a very

small town in Northern California, predominantly white, I did get picked on by the black folks because most of my friends were white.

I didn't see color.

I just saw who was nice to me, you know, who was a nice person, who did I want to hang out with.

So I dealt with it from the black side of some of the black folks in my city.

But then I also dealt with it from those that looked at me and all they saw was black.

So it's very, very interesting.

How did you get past that?

Throughout the years,

I mean, that's a

long answer to that question.

I know what

eventually got me through it was coming to the recognition, the understanding of how good God is.

And his love then changed my perspective on life.

So let me go back to that through this door because I want you to talk about, you were a drug dealer when you were young.

Absolutely.

Okay.

Yep.

So take me through that and the change.

So

15, 16 years old, I was pretty popular in school as a dancer.

I danced with one of Michael Jackson's choreographers.

He brought me to Hollywood.

He wanted to do some things with me.

So I was pretty dancing.

Wait a minute.

Wait a minute.

In today's world, you should.

Michael Jackson wanted to do some things.

Sores with you?

He wanted to do things in Hollywood.

Okay.

He wanted to introduce me.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

I did some dance things with him in Hollywood.

Yeah.

In today's day and age, you do have to clarify that.

So

I was a mixed up kid, though, I think, because of not only being biracial, not only dealing with racism from both sides, but then also my parents going through divorce when I was nine.

I leave school at nine years old, like any normal day, and my dad is in the van with a bunch of stuff in it.

We get in the van and we drive to Redding, California from Oregon.

And I didn't see my mom again until a couple months later when we were in court.

And the judge asked me, he brought me to his chambers and he said, who do you want to live with?

And all I could think of was both.

My dad was, well, if it was a choice I had to make, my dad was big.

He was a very buff guy.

He always looked like two Mr.

T's, squashed into one, 6'3, 240, chiseled.

And he was black.

And so I said, well, honestly, I said, well, my dad, because I look more like him, not having any understanding of what was really going on, that really shaped a lot of the heartache that I felt and that I grew through.

Because then my father, he loved me in ways by providing for me.

I found out later that he actually took me out of the house because things weren't going well with my mom.

And she was doing some things that weren't admirable.

And so he didn't want to leave me in that situation.

So he got me out of it.

But I didn't see that as a kid.

He showed me love by providing a roof over my head, always food.

I never had to worry about the basic needs.

We weren't wealthy by any means.

We were probably definitely on a lower scale and middle class.

I struggled with that a lot.

And then I didn't see my mom until the summertime.

And when I'd see her, she'd tell me how much she loved me And would,

you know, if you understand the five love languages, she was words of affirmation and physical touch.

She would hug me and, you know,

all the stuff that I think little boys like.

And then I'd have a lot of resentment when I'd go back and live with my dad.

So I battle a lot of internal stuff, then add to it all the racial stuff.

Yeah.

You know, having to take my girlfriend at the time, having my white friend go pick her up for our semi-formal prom at her house just to get her to to the prom so that I could be her date.

Wow.

Because they had no idea we were dating.

And they wouldn't have been cool with me.

No, absolutely not.

So

that all led to a life of partying, drinking, smoking a lot of weed.

And then before I knew it, I knew the people that had it in quantity.

And then before I knew it, I had a pager that would go off 50 to 100 times a day from everybody wanting any from weed to acid to mushrooms.

How did you get out of it?

October 10th, 1993.

Good for you.

My girlfriend at the time, who's my bride now, her mom was out of town, and I went over to her house to hang out and spend the night.

Her mom was a single parent.

Jennifer was her only daughter, and she was super protective.

So she comes home in the middle of the night.

We're there, and

she didn't freak out.

We hear her come in, Jennifer, and we're like, oh my gosh, are you kidding me?

We're in a room.

We're clothed.

We're not doing anything yet

but uh you had intent there was definitely intent yes

and she opens the door and she says to my wife she says well my girlfriend at the time she says Jennifer what's going on and Jennifer said we're just hanging out and her mom said well is he staying the night and we're thinking what in the world

and

she said yeah he was going to And then she was trying to get her daughter, Jennifer, into church.

She was trying to keep her there.

So she says, well, you least going to go to church tomorrow.

And I'm thinking, oh, here's my chance to look like a goody two-shoes.

My grandpa's a pastor.

So I said, we can go to my grandpa's church.

Like, hint hit, my grandpa's a pastor.

Don't kill me, right?

So she said, what time does this start?

I told her, and she shut the door.

Let me stay.

The next morning, unbelievable.

The next morning, I woke up and knew it was a different day.

I used to wake and bake, wake up, and get baked.

Start drinking a 40 old English back then, probably.

Hadn't drank anything, hadn't smoked anything yet.

I'm thinking, today's a really different day.

And then my grandpa's church service started at 2.

My pager hadn't gone off all day.

We get to the church service.

Full gospel, Kojic, Church of God in Christ, just get down.

Yeah, just.

Uncomfortable for white people who have never been to it.

Should be fun, though.

Yeah, it should be a lot of fun.

Yeah.

So the beginning of the service is worship.

The choir is going crazy, and then they would all of a sudden quiet down.

I hadn't been going to church.

I wasn't in church.

Raised in church early, but then left after my parents divorced.

The choir would quiet down, and somebody would stand up and they'd testify what God was doing in their life.

And then the choir would go crazy, the church would go crazy, and the choir would keep going.

That kept happening, and people kept sharing what God was doing in their life.

And it was becoming evident to me that God was not only real, that he was actively working in people's lives, but I was missing out and I was doing the devil's work.

So I had this amazing

morning.

So I had this amazing thing happening inside of me.

Like, I need to just stand up and thank God I'm still here.

I had friends that had already gotten put in prison or jail, Juvia at that time.

I'd done a lot of shady things, and I just felt the need to thank God.

In front of her mom.

Yeah, her mom was there.

Okay.

Yeah.

Jennifer's there.

And so, but then at the same time, I'm like, I'm feeling this.

Who are you to stand up and say anything?

And so I just stood up, middle of church.

I stand up and I just said, I just thank God that I'm still here after 18 years.

And all I can tell you, Glenn, is that the power of God hit me and flooded my being.

I literally took off running around the church.

It was a small church, but I ran down the front, across the front, out the back.

You had to go back through the foyer.

I did that three times.

Felt like a thousand tons of weights lifted off my shoulders.

Things visibly looked different to me.

And when I got back to my seat, all I wanted to know was about this love that God had just showed me.

I could leave everything else in my life behind, all the drugs, all the partying.

I could leave it all behind.

I just want to know about this God that loved me so much that in the middle of my sin-drenched life, he reached down and showed me he loved me.

And in that moment, I thought about, I said, what about Jennifer?

I really like this girl.

And I heard him say to me, it wasn't audible, but I heard it as loud as it could have been.

Don't worry about her.

Just keep loving on me.

So I did.

I just, you know, you see people with their hands raised as a sign of surrender.

I also like to say it's a sign of a little kid reaching up to their papa.

And when I turned and looked at her, Glenn, she had tears streaming down her cheeks.

She had her hands raised, and God spoke to me and said, there's your bride.

Wow.

We got married April 17th, six months later.

And this April coming up next year or next month will be 25 years.

Gosh, I love that story.

I love, I love that story.

Okay.

We now haven't, we've spent the time that we had allotted, and we haven't talked anything about what we wanted to talk about.

Can you stay?

Absolutely.

Okay, so we'll have you stay because you need to hear why I think this guy is so heroic and courageous.

Name of the book is Why I Couldn't Stay Silent.

We'll talk about that coming up in just a second with David Harris.

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Bubba, are you there?

Glenn, it's Bubba.

Hey, how are you, man?

Been trying to get a hold of you all morning, bud.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

How are you?

You got 36,000 affiliates and, you know, 304 Bora.

It's not Bora Bora, you know.

I know, I know.

So

tell me what your take is on

this Tucker Carlson issue.

It's the snowflaking, can accept, no,

refuse to lose mentality that everybody has, you know, where if the other side would just put a good candidate up and worry about, you know, issues at hand and

not trying to get people's lives ruined based on technicalities.

And

I think it's just absolutely ridiculous.

And I think it's basically an assassination or an attempt to assassinate people that do out-of-the-box or different type of programming against the establishment.

I think it's trying to quell everybody.

Any doubt in your mind that

Tucker Carlson is not

a racist, a misogynist, or a homophobe?

Any doubt?

My show is not a credible show, Glenn.

We're not newsworthy at all.

We're locker room talk.

We're those guys, those, you know, and Tucker, when he was, you know, not on Tu Fox and he just got let go of MSNBC and he just started the Daily Caller.

That's this time period, and it it was an uncensored guy locker room talk show.

You know, we weren't trying to be, you know, Bubba News Talk, you know, crossfire with James Carville.

We were just the dudes.

And no, he's none of that, Glenn.

He's just a regular dude, likes to go fly fishing and maybe smoke an occasional Marlboro.

That's all he is.

A regular dude, period.

So,

what do you take from all of this, Bubba?

I take that they have went to the guttural bowels of radio, me.

Like, you know, we're not credible.

Like, I mean, they've gone and went and got the autistic kid that has Tourettes and

taken a few of my ticks.

Tucker and I are friends, and we talk like dudes.

And I think that

this is, and, you know, Glenn, I didn't vote for, I'm not either.

I voted for myself just so I could say I didn't vote for either one of them.

Because I don't like, you know, I don't,

we don't do that sort of deal, but I think this is the other side, the left, as everybody calls it, playing their stupid games because they're in trouble and they don't have a candidate, and so they got to play the Mueller game and the Roger Stone game and all that kind of game.

And now why not take out one of the bigger, more powerful talking heads on the other side?

It's chicken crap on the words on your show.

The words I can say.

Yeah, I know, I know, I know.

It would be different, but let's absolutely.

Yeah, we'll keep the guy talk to some other time.

I got to tell you,

we've been listening.

We were doing a Glenn Beckathon trying to get you live on the air.

And it was their first time in radio because we would have been broadcasting 970 FLA over our station.

And we were doing a Glenn Beckathon.

And we talked to a lovely call center woman in San Diego.

And we were doing updates saying, you're listening to a Glenn Beckathon.

And we were trying to get Glenn Beck on the air, buddy.

Well,

we got a lot of mail.

We got a lot of mail.

I was going to say, I need to get Dom Theodore on the phone or Andy Michaels or Gabe Hobbes or Roger Stone or Brian Kill Me or John Morgan or Bob Pittman.

I mean, I know you know them all.

Ryan Secret.

Glenn, you're so well connected.

I need your help, Glenn.

What would you do if you were me, Glenn?

I would do exactly what you're doing, and

I wouldn't take any of this crap.

I mean, you are.

You know who you are.

You know what you do.

And the fact that you don't do any politics, A, I would continue to do that.

I would like to hear from you on what your audience is saying.

Seeing that you don't, that you talk to Democrats and Republicans, you're not a, you're, you're not choosing sides.

No.

What are the people in your audience saying about this?

Well, not about this necessarily.

This is just a witch hunt.

This is, you know what this is?

This is pathetic.

Like, I would hope that somebody could come up with a far better scandal than this.

This is ridiculous.

Trust me, I'm the king of scandals, and this is childboy compared to what I usually do.

I mean, Glenn, this is robber room stuff compared to what I usually do.

No, I know.

But the pulse of America, Glenn, to kind of give, I'm 52 years old, Glenn.

You know that I've been in radio or whatever.

You know, you and I used to go to the Zychex lounge every once in a while, 4002 Gandhi, my man.

I mean, you know, we're bo like, you know,

I'm kind of a guy's guy.

And, you know, I think this is kind of the pulse of America, not necessarily about this particular issue, but just Trump and the Democrats and the Republicans and all this, is that I think most men think that Trump's doing a pretty good job.

And this comes from a guy that's not very conform, but he kind of needs to be at times a little more presidential.

Just a tad.

I like what he stands for, but just a tad.

Like, somebody needs to take that damn Twitter thing away from him and kind of chill out a little bit, Nonny.

That's what I'm saying.

Have you?

Is that a good message?

I think that's a great message because I think that's what people, people who support Donald Trump, generally think that.

You know what?

Look, he's got his own issues, and he's got, please stop.

Please stop tweeting.

Don't stop tweeting altogether.

Just back it down about 32%.

That's it.

Okay.

Have you talked to Tucker?

I did.

I talked to him just a little bit yesterday because he was in the middle of this, and I felt as if his monologue,

I almost cried afterwards because it was just like not only did he stand his ground because he didn't do anything wrong, but he stood, you know, as much as the Democratic talking heads, Glenn, maybe want to get behind this, the CNNs and and what have you.

At the end of the day, journalists need to take a long, hard look as to what Tucker's saying because they're trying to take your freedom of speech and the way that you look at things, right or left or indifferent, away.

They're trying to quell.

What the people don't realize is not the left is trying to quell everybody.

Not just

the Michael Savages and the Glenn Becks and the Tucker Carlsons.

And they take a shot at the biggest guy, and the biggest guy basically gave him the middle finger.

And I thought his monologue was brilliant.

I thought so, too.

Bubba the love sponge.

Not that I'm either.

I'm barely either, Glenn.

Thank you so much.

Honest to God, Glenn, we have a lot of great friends, and let's keep in touch.

I've always honestly admired your work.

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John Lott.

He is a doctor.

Dr.

John Lott.

He is an economist and a recognized expert on guns and crimes.

He has written some of the best books on guns.

He was instrumental in our book on control.

Welcome to the program, John Lott.

Great to talk to you again, Glenn.

Hey, John, I wanted to get you on about two things, Washington State and what's happening there, and also these red flag laws that the Republican Senate is actually suggesting.

And

what's his name,

Lindsey Graham, has said he's already talked to the president, and the president's on board.

And I think this is a horrible law.

Can you explain exactly what the law is, if it's effective, and whether you agree with me or not?

Right.

No, I definitely agree with you.

Look,

it's kind of like the old Tom Cruise movie Minority Report, where they're trying to predict whether somebody's going to commit a crime in the future.

And,

you know,

if you talk to them, most of these laws are fairly vague.

They just say you have a complaint, a judge will look at it, there'll be no initial hearing that will be there, and maybe the person's gun can be taken away for up to 21 days, and then there'll be a hearing.

And there's no experts like they're used to have where they're being in mental health experts.

In fact, they're really trying to get much broader than mental health.

Most of these laws don't even mention the term mental health in them.

You talk to the people who enforce these things and you say, well, what do you look for?

And they'll say, well, we look for predictors for somebody committing a crime.

So do they have a criminal record?

And you'll say, well, you already have laws on that.

If you have a felony, you're banned for life from having a gun, even if it's a non-violent felony.

Depending upon the state, like California, almost any misdemeanor can ban you from being able to go and get a gun.

But what they don't want to have is they want to have it so you can be banned if you simply have an arrest but not a conviction.

Or somebody files a complaint and there's not an arrest.

So there is, there is, the way I read this is

if somebody said, let's say, John, you get a divorce and it's an ugly divorce and you have a lot of guns, and your ex in the battle

says to the police, you know, my husband, I think he's unstable, and I think he's, you know, he's got a lot of guns, and I'm worried that he might do something.

They have the right then to go in and take your guns without any kind of hearing on that.

Is that accurate?

Even notifying you, you'll find somebody at your door at five o'clock in the morning.

This has happened in some places.

And the standard of evidence is very low in many of these cases.

You can have what they call reasonable reasonable cause, which is just a hunch.

If the judge just has a hunch based on,

slightly more than a hunch based on the complaint that the ex-wife has filed or the wife involved in the divorce,

that can be sufficient.

And even when they have a hearing after 21 days or so, depending upon the state,

again, they don't bring in experts.

And it can simply be, you know,

is there a 51% chance, you know, slightly more than a coin flip, that you could be a danger.

You could have your guns taken away on a long-term basis, though.

What is the long-term plan here?

What is this?

What is this?

Because they're assembling, you know, as you see, John.

We haven't talked about this, but I'm sure

you're on this

far more than I am.

They're assembling by

taking away a little right here and a little right there and then pressuring the financial system not to do business with gun manufacturers etc etc they're all they're doing is making it absolutely impossible on many levels and that way they can say we never touched the second amendment right no it's clear that they want to make it costly for people to have guns uh and they do it in many different ways as you say uh in Washington, D.C., where they just voted in the House on these universal, so-called universal background checks, which are background checks on any private transfers of a gun.

It costs $125 to do a transfer on a gun.

Per gun.

I mean, per gun.

If I give my son all of my guns and I give him 10 guns,

it's $1,250

because he has to pay for the transfer and the, quote, background check.

You're not checking the gun.

You're checking him.

Check him once.

They have exemption for right now in terms of immediate family members, but if you gave it to me or if a grandfather gave it to his grandson or something like that, you're right.

I mean, and the ridiculousness of it is that you're having the background check on the individual.

It's not like there's a background check really on each gun to check whether the gun has a criminal record.

Right.

And

so,

you know, it just, it's obvious that they just went out of the way to make it costly.

I'll give you an example.

When other states have passed these laws, I get phone calls sometimes from

state legislators.

A few years ago, when Colorado passed its law, I got a call asking me what amendment I would put up on the bill.

My suggestion was to put up an amendment that would exempt people below the poverty level from having to pay the new state tax on each gun that was transferred.

With the exception of two pro-gun Democrats in the state House, every other Democrat voted against exempting people below the poverty level from having to pay the new state tax.

How many taxes can you think of that Democrats will fight tooth and nail against exempting somebody below the poverty level from having to pay?

And it just,

you know,

if my research convinces me of anything, it's poor minorities, particularly poor blacks who live in high crime urban areas, who benefit the most from having the option to be able to go and protect themselves.

These fees aren't going to stop you or I from being able to go and buy a gun, but poor

blacks who live in these high crime areas, it may be enough easily to stop them from owning a gun legally to protect themselves and their families.

So, quickly, before I move on to the

Washington state debacle, let me just leave the audience with this.

John has put together a white paper along with Carlisle Moody from College of William and Mary and the Crime Prevention Research Center.

This was their conclusion on red flag laws.

Now, remember, this is your Republican Senate that is doing this.

He writes: the conclusion: the red flag laws had no significant effect on murder, suicide, the number of people killed in mass public shootings, robbery, aggravated assault, or burglary.

But there is some evidence that rape rates rise.

These laws apparently do not save lives.

right, let me switch to Washington State.

Washington State said that if you can't sell a gun to anybody who is 20 unless they're 21 and they agreed all these other things, the sheriffs say we're not imposing, we're not enforcing this law.

We find that it is unconstitutional, and we're not going to do that.

And now the state is going after those sheriffs and going after

FFLs,

which is, you know, a private dealer that if they say

they're not going to abide by that either, they're going to put them out of business, and they're talking about jail time.

What is the story on this, John?

Right.

Well, Washington State, Paul Allen, and others have passed three initiatives in...

the last three elections.

And there's just a myriad of complicated laws now in Washington State for going owning a gun.

This last one had everything from 10-day waiting periods for buying a semi-automatic rifle to raising the age for somebody to be able to own a gun up to age 21,

to creating a gun registry, to, as we were just talking about before, adding in fees and taxes essentially on top of the costs that they had already imposed for people being able to go and own a gun.

It's just,

I mean,

people have to understand how complicated the existing laws are even before they had this initiative.

If you had a female friend who is being stalked or threatened and she calls you up late in the evening asking you to go and borrow a gun for a few days until she can go to the store and buy one herself,

you'd be committing a crime.

Unless the attacker, the stalker, was physically there in front of you all when you loaned her the gun.

And as soon as he left, even if you knew he was going to be coming back later, she'd have to give you back the gun.

This is ridiculous.

This is ridiculous.

So do do they have a leg to stand on when it comes to the sheriffs?

Can they take these sheriffs down?

Well, the thing is, the sheriffs are a creation of state law.

And so

you know, the federal government can't force individual sheriffs to do things, but states have a lot of leeway in terms of

what they can make sheriffs do.

And it's heroic in some sense for these sheriffs, despite the risks that they're facing personally themselves, to be able to go and object to these rules.

I mean, they're elected office holders, but

it's still the state that sets up the rules by which they operate.

John, thank you so much, and we'll stay in touch.

Appreciate all the work that you do.

God bless.

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