'Pivot Point America'? - 9/28/18

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Glenn back.

I was home yesterday with my children.

They're homeschooled.

My wife

kept saying, Please turn down the television, honey, because the kids have to pay attention.

I had the Kavanaugh hearings on.

Normally, if the news is on, the kids are not paying any attention at all.

They can do anything if the news is on.

But yesterday, it was compelling.

I said to my wife, I think the kids need to watch this.

This is history.

This is our country at a pivot point.

What we choose to do today and tomorrow and the next day

based on what happened yesterday, this is a fork in the road.

My kids watched the horror show.

They both said to me separately, I don't understand the process.

I don't understand what is how is this even working?

I tried to explain it, but I couldn't because it made no sense at all.

You have a prosecutor asking questions, line of inquiry, and then we go to five minutes of fluff and then back to her.

She can't make a point.

We can't find any information.

My kids ask me, what, what is the evidence?

There is no evidence.

It's her or him.

Because my kids had to finish their homework and it lasted all day.

I turned it off and turned it on in another room.

Both of my kids separately asked me last night.

It's a quote.

Who won?

That bothered me.

Who won?

Out of the mouths of babes.

I was singing that last night as I turned on cable news.

Cable news.

It wasn't news.

It was sports.

It was ESPN.

Who blocked?

Who tackled?

Who had the touchdown?

I'm sick to my stomach.

Is anyone thinking of the ramifications in Washington?

Is anyone in Washington thinking about what this means for the Republic?

It was an embarrassment.

I can't call myself an American if this is what the American people want, but I will tell you,

I cannot believe I'm wrong on this.

This is not reflective of the American people.

I don't know who won,

but I will tell you who lost.

All of us,

all of us lost yesterday.

Our children lost yesterday.

I think yesterday is the first day

that I could say,

Mr.

Franklin,

I don't think we're capable of keeping this republic.

It's Friday, September 28th.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

Anybody notice yesterday

how the Republicans behaved?

Now, I'm not going to give them extra points because

honestly, the way they, the only reason why they didn't question Ford themselves is because, quite honestly,

the most pessimistic part of me says because they were cowards, because they didn't want to be asked them.

They didn't want to be the ones on film, on television, asking a question

that would then be taken and twisted into something angry, anti-women, pro-rapist.

So what do they do?

They got an ordinary-looking woman who was very qualified to ask all of the questions.

So what happens on cable news last night?

What happens on cable news last night is we don't know where she was going.

We don't know why she was, what she was even building up to.

Of course not.

Because this system was not designed to do what they did yesterday.

See, what this system is has been designed to do.

Now, this is not its original design, but what it's been designed to do lately is just give political candidates airtime so they can position themselves with their voters.

That's all this system is for.

It's not a search for truth.

They weren't looking for the truth last night.

And if I hear one more damn person say about the FBI, the FBI does not deliver truth.

They deliver raw data.

So they deliver all the he said, she said.

Well, we have all of that.

What we're looking for here is evidence.

And there is no evidence.

There's no evidence.

So the Republicans they get up

and they treat Ford with respect.

I'm tweeting.

I'm tweeting the whole time.

I am making sure I am on my best behavior because that's what the country needs.

Best behavior.

Not as a media person,

but also as a dad.

I didn't say this woman is making all this stuff up.

I said this woman says this man

pinned her down

and tried to take her clothes off.

When, dad?

36, 37 years ago.

We're not even sure of the year.

We're not sure of the year?

No, we're not sure of the month.

We're not even sure of the day.

Well, where did it happen?

We don't know that.

Well, does anybody else say that it happened?

She said that there were four other people there.

All four of them have said that didn't happen.

Now, it would be very easy for me to then say, see, she's lying.

Instead,

I expressed her viewpoint.

that it is something that they may not have remembered because it was normal for them.

When the press was fawning over her crying,

I did not utter to my children, no, she's not crying.

Has anybody seen her wipe a tear?

I said yesterday to my kids and to the public that I could feel her fear and I could understand it.

She was in a very dicey situation yesterday.

And I felt for her.

And I listened to her.

I went with an open mind.

And here's what I found about Ford.

Personally,

I thought what we saw yesterday

was somebody who is very afraid, somebody who is very nervous.

But I'm sorry, I didn't connect the emotion of this was the worst experience of my life, and I've never been able to get past it.

It's why I have two front doors.

I was not able to get past it.

It didn't seem

connected.

Now, she was asking for caffeine.

I wanted to ask the question, which I think is absolutely appropriate.

And I'm not trying to throw her under the bus, but in your case, you had to fly here, which you don't like to do.

You had to fly here.

You are now, your family is under attack.

People have come out of the woods.

You don't know what this hearing is going to be.

I can't imagine you've slept well for a week.

Are you under any kind of doctor's orders or medication?

Why are you asking for caffeine?

I would think that this would keep you wide awake.

This is the most important thing you'll ever probably do.

Why caffeine?

When she said halfway through, I'm sorry, Senator, I can't keep up.

My brain's not working fast right now.

I wondered again, are you on any kind of medication?

That is not a smear.

That's an honest question because she seemed detached to me.

recalling the worst time of her life.

Her voice, her voice changed.

But I didn't see it in her face I didn't see it in her eyes now that doesn't mean that it didn't happen I think she was tranquilized I think she is she was on medication which I understand

but if that's true that would explain why it didn't seem to come from the chest it seemed to come from her head Now, maybe others had a different experience with her.

But I walked away from it thinking she's somewhat credible.

She should be taken seriously.

But I don't know.

But I was actually, before Kavanaugh spoke, more open to her having a slam dunk.

I wanted to see how he was going to respond.

And then I saw him respond.

And I'm sorry.

but that emotion was real that emotion came from the heart not the head

now I am willing to say they both believe

exactly what they're saying 100%

I have a hard time with somebody saying to the press

saying in a statement I didn't know for sure,

but after I met with my attorneys for six days, I'm 100% sure it was Brett Kavanaugh.

Could it be Brett Kavanaugh?

Yeah, it could be.

Is it?

I have no idea because I do believe him.

So now we're left with, what are we going to do?

Well, what do we do?

Yeah, that's the funny thing.

That's why you don't air these things in public.

That's why

you have a prosecutor's office who looks at the cops and says, well, you gave me a bunch of raw data here.

It means nothing.

I know, well, we had the FBI ask all these questions.

Well, yeah, you got a lot of questions here, but I don't see any answers.

I don't have a case.

I'd be laughed out of court.

This is why the Democrats did not bring this up two months ago because there is no answer to this.

You know who you know who

the real abuser is here?

Senator Feinstein and the rest of her Klan

who tried to round up and lynch a man

based on hearsay.

How that letter, how was that letter leaked?

We all know

the Democratic Party leaked that letter.

Why?

Because they knew they had nothing.

All they had was a smear.

Now they may believe her, and you can believe her.

I'm not God.

So I'm at the point where I say,

I think it's pretty weak, but who am I to say?

I can't judge her emotion.

I have a problem with it, but everybody's different.

So I'm not going to judge her.

I look at Kavanaugh.

I believe him.

I believe his emotion was real.

I believe this man was,

I believe this man,

you want to talk about reparations?

How do you repair his life?

Now, help him if he's a liar.

God help her if she's a liar.

But dear God, help us.

Because we are turning into animals.

What's really frightening is people deserve.

People deserve in a republic

the government that they get.

What the hell did yesterday say about us?

I have much more to say, including outrage.

Addicted to outrage?

Yesterday is not an addiction to outrage.

Yesterday is righteous indignation.

Yesterday is why people voted for Donald Trump.

Yesterday is why people on the right will go out at the midterms

if they have a memory that lasts more than a day

and they will vote against this new blue wave because this

is not American.

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i believe this is going to backfire big time on the progressive democrats

this is going to backfire because americans believe in fairness and they believe in justice ford was good but she did not change any minds last night

She was good.

Kavanaugh,

Kavanaugh changed the dynamics.

Now, you can call him angry,

but that's not anger, and that's not outrage.

That is called righteous indignation.

I ask anyone who said he was angry to put yourself into his shoes.

He claims he is innocent.

He has gone through 11 days of hell.

Can you imagine the conversations he had with his children?

Can you imagine the conversations that his wife has had to endure as he walked and paced his house or his office?

And he said, none of this is true.

Americans are fair.

And fair-minded people don't feel comfortable today deciding between her or him.

They don't know they weren't there.

We've been lied to by politicians and media our whole life.

I am not willing to condemn a man and have him go off into the sunset and us never think about him ever again

while he just tries to put the the wreckage of his life together.

I am also not willing to say nothing happened to Professor Ford.

I don't know.

I wasn't there.

Here's what I am willing to say.

Democrats, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Shame on you.

You used Ford and you used Kavanaugh.

For what?

Your power?

You are grotesque, grotesque monsters.

It's why people say, I've had enough.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

I thought what was remarkable yesterday was the way the conservatives handled themselves.

The conservatives handled themselves, I thought, very well.

I thought they treated Ford with dignity and respect.

Nobody was smirking.

Nobody was mocking.

The same cannot be said for the left.

As soon as Brett Kavanaugh started to talk, of course, the Democrats were smirking.

They were mocking.

None of them apologized for what was going on in his life.

The Republicans apologized immediately.

The first thing, I'm sorry that this is happening to you.

The first words, I am sorry that you have to go through this.

To Ford.

Americans are fair, but let me talk to you.

I think yesterday is a great example of what I lay out in my book, Addicted to Outrage.

Outrage is bad.

Righteous indignation is good.

Sometimes it is absolutely appropriate and needed.

Yesterday, what did they do?

They knew.

Now, I give them just,

I take this with a grain of salt because it was all politics.

If they thought

another way would be more effective, perhaps the Republicans would have behaved differently.

But what they did was right yesterday.

You empathize.

You listen.

You hear somebody out.

You treat them with respect.

You then ask for the facts and you use reason.

When somebody else comes to the table and

they're just a team player, they're not coming with the same intent.

Their intent is to win.

Those who seek power, money,

a win for themselves or their team, those who will abandon principles,

you cannot deal with them.

You can't.

People say to me all the time, Glenn, you want us to make friends?

No, I don't.

No, I do not.

Read the book.

No, I don't.

There are people, and we saw them yesterday, that you are not going to be able to have a reasonable conversation with.

But there are Democrats out there who saw this yesterday and were ashamed.

Now, I don't know how many people had the time to actually watch all of it because I'm watching the news and it's already disconnected from what actually happened yesterday.

I was home yesterday sick, so I watched the whole damn thing.

I watched every second of it.

I know what happened,

and it's not being reflected accurately in the news.

There's a reason to be angry.

This FBI thing goes against basic fairness.

And would you trust?

Would you trust a dossier in the hands of both the Republicans and the Democrats in Washington.

What an FBI dossier does is basically

the steel dossier.

The FBI goes out and they talk to everyone.

They don't make a judgment.

They just get all raw data.

And that gives you a dossier of saying things like, yeah, he was in Moscow and had a golden shower with prostitutes.

Do you think that is something that we should know about?

Would you want that out about you?

Out-and-out, bald-face lies?

Because the FBI dossier talks to everyone and judges no one.

It's then given to the Senate.

And it's very easy if you have a dossier on somebody just to leak it.

I don't know where that leak came from.

Gosh, I don't know who gave that information.

Golden showers in Wascow.

Wow.

Well, it's out there now.

He's going to have to deal with it.

We are

just and fair people.

Now, she made quite a statement.

I'm 100%

sure.

Well,

that's good.

That's good.

But I'm sorry it's not enough.

Planned Parenthood yesterday was, what do you say?

What do you say to somebody that shares their experience of sexual assault?

You say, I believe you.

No, you do not.

No, you do not.

You say, I am sorry that you may have had this experience.

Can you give me more information?

Because if this happened to you, we need to stop the bad guy.

You do not say, I believe you.

You say, I am listening.

I can empathize.

Give me more information.

Let's get the bad guy.

Planned Parenthood, how dare you say?

How dare you?

Another example of using women.

They don't care about you.

Using women.

What do you say when somebody shares with you their sexual assault?

You say, I believe you.

Is that what you said?

Is that what you said to Keith Ellison's accusers?

Is that what you said, Planned Parenthood?

Because I haven't heard it.

You are a fraud.

You are a political organization that's, for some unknown reason,

we are funding.

You're a fraud.

You're a butcher house.

You have no credibility.

Here's what happens.

If we say,

oh, we believe you.

I want to play for you a quick story

about a guy named Ronald Cotton and a victim, Jennifer Thompson.

This is in her voice.

She is telling this at a press conference.

I want you to hear this.

In 1984, I was a 22-year-old college student.

One night, someone broke into my apartment, put a knife in my throat, and he raped me.

During the ordeal I studied every single detail on his face because I was confident, should I be allowed to see the next day, that I was going to make sure he was put in prison and he was going to rot.

I went down to the police station, I did a composite drawing.

Several days later, I did a physical lineup and I identified my attacker and I knew who he was.

I was confident I had picked the right guy and he was going to go to jail and if there was a death penalty, I would be there to pull the plug.

We went to court.

I stood on the witness stand and I put my hand on the Bible and I swore that I would tell the truth and I did.

And Ronald Cotton was sentenced to prison for life

and it was the happiest day of my life.

Ronald Cotton was never going to get out.

He was never going to hurt another woman.

And he served until 1995 when DNA became available and I was asked to take a blood test.

The DNA test came back and the detective and the district attorney told me,

Ronald Cotton didn't rape you.

It was Bobby Poole, the man I had never seen before in my life.

The man who was inches from my face with a knife to my throat.

Ronald Cotton was released.

After 11 years, he and I are the same age.

During those 11 years, I had gone on.

I had been married.

I was a mommy.

Ronald Cotton didn't get to do that.

Ronald Cotton is married now.

He's a daddy.

And Ronald's my friend.

This

Ronald Cotton story is a great example of

why people are in jail.

that shouldn't be in jail.

Now, sometimes it's because they're in jail because people,

you know, somebody was corrupt, somebody made up a story, somebody was trying to shift the blame, you're the wrong color, you were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

We have a justice system to do our best

to

even let a perpetrator go as opposed to letting somebody sit and rot in prison

wrongly.

That should be our worst nightmare: being wrongly accused.

And what we just played for you,

this audio of a woman who is raped,

she did her best.

She said she studied the man's face as he was raping her.

She would never forget what he looked like.

I want to play the end of this story of hers one more time.

And he served until 1995 when DNA became available and I was asked to take a blood test.

The DNA test came back and the detective and the district attorney told me,

Ronald Cotton didn't rape you.

It was Bobby Poole, the man I had never seen before in my life.

The man who was inches from my face with a knife to my throat.

Ronald Cotton was released after 11 years.

He and I are the same age.

During those 11 years, I had gone on.

I had been married.

I was a mommy ronald cotton didn't get to do that ronald cotton is married now and he's a daddy and ronald's my friend

i'm here to tell you

that eyewitnesses can make mistakes

eyewitnesses make mistakes

Eyewitnesses, here's a woman who had a knife to her throat.

She studied him.

She was 100%

certain.

That's the man.

This didn't happen 36, 37 years ago.

To her.

This happened.

She went to a lineup.

It was fresh in her mind.

She picked him out.

That's the man.

I'm 100%

sure.

If it wasn't for DNA, he'd still be rotting wrongly in jail.

The American people are a lot of things.

This is why we have freedom of speech.

This is why we don't shout people down.

This is why

we don't, like progressives, say, well, we're going to fix it for the American people.

I strongly believe in what Jefferson said.

The American people will get it wrong,

but eventually they will correct it.

Trust the people.

We've gone down this road far enough.

We.

I do not want my worst enemy.

My worst enemy.

And I can't even think of who that might be.

I wouldn't want my worst enemy

to wrongly be accused.

I wouldn't want them disturbing life destroy George Soros.

I do not want him

chased out of the public square

on wrong or iffy information.

I'll take him at his own words.

I think that's enough.

But everybody has to do their own homework.

You can make, you can, you can point to somebody's words and say, look, and read all of it.

We're not reading all of it.

We don't have all of it because all of it doesn't exist.

Imagine you sitting behind your son or your daughter where they are wrongly accused in court.

They are, they have been accused of murder or rape,

and you strongly believe they didn't do it, and they strongly believe they didn't do it.

They say absolutely positively, I did not do this.

Imagine what you would feel like as a mom and a dad sitting behind your child.

And the only evidence is somebody's testimony from 36 or 37 years ago that she, up until 20 days ago, said, I'm not sure that it's Brett.

Now says, I'm 100% sure it's your son, your daughter.

They don't know where this took place.

They don't know when this took place.

They have no other witnesses.

They have nothing.

Do you want this to happen to your son or daughter?

This is the knee molar poem.

First,

they came for fill-in-the-blank.

First,

they came for Bill O'Reilly, but Bill O'Reilly, he probably did it, so I didn't say anything.

They came for Glenn Beck.

But he weathered a storm and, you know, he said a lot of crazy things.

And

he's not on my side anyway.

I'm glad he's gone.

They came for Roseanne.

They came from Alex Jones.

Yeah, but he deserved it.

Well, have you noticed they're not coming for Antifa?

They're not coming for people who have the opposing point of view.

You better stand up

for due process.

Bill O'Reilly next.

The country has been pushed to the limit.

Our political bonds have been torn apart.

We need a true leader who can save us from certain doom.

Unfortunately, we could only find this guy.

Hey, it's Glenn Beck.

Glenn Beck is coming live to talk about the right path forward and to make fun of the people standing in the way.

He might not be able to save the country, but at least we can all go down laughing.

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Glenn Beck.

We have Bill O'Reilly coming up in a second, but I want to start with a couple of things.

CNN yesterday was lecturing America, and I watched all day on CNN.

They were lecturing about how the Republicans needed to listen to Ford with an open mind.

Well, I, for one, didn't need their lecturing.

I listened to her with an open mind.

I found her compelling.

I understood her fear of being there.

She's been used and abused

by this process, by the Democrats.

Who had an open mind?

When Jeff Flake was trying to get into an elevator yesterday, somebody stopped him.

Listen to this audio real quick.

I told the story of my sexual assault.

I told it because I recognized in Dr.

Ford's story that she's telling the truth.

What you are doing is allowing here.

She is.

She says, My sexual experience.

There is one thing: when you channel your experience into this, millions of American women who have gone through this understand,

yes,

they may be able to relate what she's saying, but that doesn't make what she's saying real.

Even Jake Tapper yesterday said, There is no evidence anywhere on any of these charges.

You came with an open mind yesterday because you wanted the truth.

And you might have listened to Ford, as the reports show, that Donald Trump thought Ford's testimony was very good.

Oh, it looks like he's going soft.

He listened to it.

It's very good.

That's what you should have felt.

And it is also why, in due process, the person charged then responds.

It's why the Democrats wanted to flip these two.

So he didn't have a chance to respond.

And his response was forceful, not angry.

It was full of righteous indignation.

And then Lindsey Graham spoke.

And you know what?

I don't like Lindsey Graham, but he spoke for me yesterday, and he spoke to millions of Americans who feel the same way.

You want to know why Donald Trump won?

Because of what happened yesterday.

Millions of Americans are exhausted.

This is political insanity and suicide.

We are tired of watching a man and his family publicly be

disgraced, defaced, destroyed.

This is not the way Americans are supposed to act, and it gets worse every day.

When we think it can't get lower, it does.

Is there any shame?

Yesterday, I think we all know that the Republic is in danger.

We are in danger just as much as we were on September 11th, 2001.

Our foundation is being rocked.

Humanity in the United States of America is at risk.

And if we are at risk, the entire world is at risk.

How can we live alongside people who are capable of

the

politics of destruction that we have seen.

And we've had to sit here and just take it.

Supporting Kavanaugh has not been allowed.

If you support Kavanaugh, you're a rapist.

You like rape.

You hate women.

Senator Graham spoke and broke the silence.

He said what many people have felt burning inside of them.

Anyone who has been threatened by the bullies of the left, if you didn't hear it, you have to.

If you did, it's worth hearing again.

If you wanted an FBI investigation, you could have come to us.

What you want to do is destroy this guy's life, hold this seat open, and hope you win in 2020.

You've said that, not me.

You've got nothing to apologize for.

When you see Sodomire and Kagan, tell them that Lindsay said, oh,

because I voted for them.

I would never do to them what you've done to this guy.

This is the most unethical

sham since I've been in politics.

And if you really wanted to know the truth, you sure as hell wouldn't have done what you've done to this guy.

Are you a gang rapist?

No.

I cannot imagine what you and your family have gone through.

Boy, y'all want power.

God, I hope you never get it.

I hope the American people can see through this sham that you knew about it and you held it.

You had no intention of protecting Dr.

Ford.

None.

She's as much of a victim as you are.

God, I hate to say it because these have been my friends.

But let me tell you: when it comes to this,

you're looking for a fair process.

You came to the wrong town at the wrong time, my friend.

It's Friday, September 28th.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

Bill O'Reilly, welcome to the program.

Bill, how are things?

Busy, Beck.

I'm glad you're back on the radio.

Thank you.

Feeling better, I hope.

I am feeling better.

Yesterday did not help my blood pressure at all.

You know, I watched this yesterday, and I'm anxious to hear your view of this.

I thought, you know, with an exception of the lack of evidence, the lack of any specific detail,

I couldn't come out and say, oh, she's lying.

This is clearly a lie.

It didn't feel like it came from her heart as much as it did from her head, but she was so afraid of testifying yesterday.

I think that kind of jumbled everything.

So I don't know if I even got a real read from her, but I'm willing to take it at face value if there is evidence.

There is no evidence.

And when Kavanaugh came up,

I mean, he made me cry two or three times just because of the thought of what his life has been like

against a foe that is shadow boxing.

Tell me about it, Doc.

I know.

Okay,

so I approach things differently than

most

media people do.

And

I watched all of it yesterday.

I saw the whole thing because I was on billoreilly.com tweeting.

I wrote a column.

I wrote a message of the day.

And then I delivered my half-hour broadcast last night.

I de-emphasized the testimony of Dr.

Ford

only because I can not say with any certainty

what happened to her.

And I think that's fair.

I can't,

it's beyond my capability.

I can't read her mind.

I can't read her heart.

And I think most of them.

I can't talk to her therapist.

Most Americans are like this.

I'm not willing to throw her under the

bus.

Right.

I respectfully listened to her.

Yes.

And then I started to put things together.

So the headline of the story is:

she cannot corroborate her accusation against an American citizen, Brett Kavanaugh.

That's the headline.

Everybody should understand that.

Can't corroborate it.

And everybody's gone over it, but I'll just tell you one thing.

I have a 15-year-old son, and I discussed this with him.

If you're 15 years old and you're traumatized, you remember as

Dr.

Ford did.

But you also remember details about it.

You don't remember who drove you there or who drove you home.

Impossible.

To me, to me.

Now, I'm sure you can get a psychologist to come in and say, oh no, people black out or whatever.

To me,

you got to know how you got home.

Bill, I have to tell you,

there are things that, you know, the only thing I can compare this to is my mother's sudden death.

I'm 15 years old.

My mother suddenly dies.

I can tell you where I was when I found out.

I can tell you

where I, you know, when I first suspected, I can tell you where I was.

I can tell you when I was, which class I was in, what I was looking at.

I can't tell you the names of the faces and the people around me, but I can remember all those details.

I can remember what we had to do that day.

I can remember some very clear specifics.

There is, there is, it's beyond reason to me to not be able to say it was at this house because that would be part of it.

You would remember, you would avoid that.

And so that is a major, major piece of our evaluation.

But then

it gets a little dicey.

And here's really, this is the second headline.

Diane Feinstein is a villain.

She orchestrated this

whole thing.

She directed Dr.

Ford to the most radical left law firm in the country.

Dr.

Ford doesn't know who's paying her lawyers, doesn't know who paid for the lie detector test.

Her lawyers told the Senate Judiciary Committee she couldn't go in for an interview because she was afraid to fly.

And the woman from Arizona dismantled that immediately by saying, you, Dr.

Ford, have flown all over the world.

Did you notice, though, Bill, that they didn't ⁇ what the commentators were saying yesterday was not that they were ⁇

they said the Democrats or the Republicans and this prosecutor, they were trying to undermine her credibility.

No, they weren't.

They were trying to point out

she's being used and manipulated here.

I think that she bears a little bit of guilt for this.

The Senate Judiciary Committee wanted to interview her to get her on the record so they could investigate her story.

Not to nail her to the wall.

They wanted to get a timeline and names so they could check them out.

She refused to do the interview.

And you're telling me that a PhD doesn't know who's paying the lawyers,

doesn't know who's paying the lie detector test, doesn't know what day the lie detector test was given?

She said, well, you know, it was on the day my grandmother died, or maybe the day after.

You know, it starts not to stack.

And anybody in this country who has been accused of anything, and that includes kids in classrooms, all right, which they didn't do,

unfairly accused,

starts to say,

all right, give me the facts.

Tell me the facts.

They weren't told.

So my conclusion was if I were a senator of the United States, I would vote to confirm Judge Kavanaugh because there was simply nothing there to disqualify him.

I'm a linear thinker.

I'm a logical man.

Everybody listening to us right now, ask yourself this question.

Was there anything that you saw or heard yesterday

that disqualified

Judge Brett Kavanaugh from sitting on the Supreme Court?

Is a woman standing at an elevator screaming at a senator that she herself was assaulted, therefore Judge Kavanaugh is guilty?

Is that enough to vote against Judge Kavanaugh?

Because that's what the senator from Hawaii Hawaii is saying.

That's what Kirsten Gillibrand from New York is saying, and Camilla Harris and Diane Feinstein.

They're saying because women have been assaulted in the past, in the right now, whatever,

you can't vote for any man who's been accused.

Any man.

So, therefore,

anybody

can raise raise an accusation to disqualify anyone

from an appointed position or even running for office.

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Bill, your thoughts on Kavanaugh?

He's being described everywhere

in the press as angry and hostile.

Well,

that's not how I saw him.

I saw him as indignant

and

fed up.

But, you know, spin is spin.

It was a vicious cartoon in my local newspaper, Newsday Newsday on Long Island, which is, you know, the usual

knee-jerk liberal paper about Kavanaugh, you know, looking menacing and all of this, and then next to him, Dr.

Ford crying, you know, that kind of stuff.

No, she was not crying.

There was not one.

This was in the political cartoon.

Okay, all right.

All right.

So the, you know,

I know.

The best moment that Kavanaugh had was when he talked about his 10-year-old daughter

suggesting that

they pray for the woman.

And

I thought Kavanaugh was very smart to come out blazing because you have to understand one thing.

And this is the only thing that's going to save America.

Because in your opening remarks, you were right.

I mean, we're living now in a time where we're on the cliff we can go over.

If Americans say, hey, you know, I'm going to support a party that's going to destroy anyone they don't like.

I'm going to support that party and give them power.

This is Stalin now,

his whole thing changes.

But Kavanaugh came out and he was very raw in his defense saying,

you destroyed me.

And even if he gets confirmed, this will never go away.

Never.

Right.

And his wife and daughters will be traumatized forever as well.

So you did it.

And you did it for political reasons because I'm innocent.

Very powerful.

Now, what I'm feeling and seeing in my community is anger and a backlash against

the left-wing media, which is as dishonest as it's ever been in this country, and the Feinstein-Schumer-led Democratic Party.

I'm seeing that here, and I live in a pretty diverse community.

not a conservative place.

And anger overrides every other emotion when it comes to voting in politics.

Let me repeat that.

Anger overrides everything else.

Dr.

Ford will be forgotten.

Nobody's going to remember Dr.

Ford unless she continues a crusade in two months.

But Kavanaugh, they're never going to forget.

And the anger about attacking him and his family.

is now at, I think, a record level.

I saw the overnights just for the cable news.

Fox News doing record ratings because people are coming in there who support Kavanaugh.

The others, CNN and MSNBC, are far behind.

So the anger is being galvanized.

And will it show up in the midterm elections?

I think it might.

I think it might.

Because I fully expect, Beck, another attack,

either on Kavanaugh or President Trump coming before the vote.

Next week.

Back with more with Bill O'Reilly in a minute.

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Bill O'Reilly,

tell me what you think the committee is voting today at 1:30.

Then they have to have a cloture vote.

And then I think it's scheduled for Monday, a full vote in the Senate.

How's this going to play out?

I think you'll be confirmed.

But here's what I'm worried about.

Keep your eye on the New York Times or the Washington Post.

It's close, but the New York Times is the head

of this movement to disqualify non-liberal people from public service.

All right.

So the paper

sets itself up for anybody in America to call them or get in touch with them to attack conservatives and Republicans.

I expect

soon another attack on either Kavanaugh or Trump to divert attention away from what I think is going to be a loss yesterday for the liberal community and the progressive movement.

They lost.

Maybe some of them don't know it, but I think the smarter of them know they lost.

So they've got to attack again.

With no attack,

I think it'll be tied.

Somebody will do something, but if any Republican votes against

Judge Kavanaugh, they're going to be ostracized from the Republican Party.

So if Lisa Murkowski in Alaska votes against Kavanaugh, she's through in the Republican Party.

Done.

Maybe you peel off Joe Manchin

in West Virginia as a Democrat vote.

So I think the odds are that he will be confirmed.

But believe me when I tell you, they're working feverishly now to attack.

So what do they,

when you say you think that there is something coming,

you know, and it might be about Trump,

to divert attention or as a last gasp to get somebody to vote against him?

Well, they're they're both the same thing.

If you get another accusation against either Kavanaugh or Trump, okay,

the press will run with it wallah.

You know that.

Nobody will check it out.

I mean, this Avenatti thing, it's been discredited by the people, not by the press.

The press ran with it.

But the American people

basically said, look, we don't believe this.

We don't believe him.

It didn't even come up in the hearing yesterday, which was interesting.

Even the fanatical Democrats who put anything and smear anybody stayed away from it.

No, there were plenty on CNN yesterday.

There are panels that we're talking about.

I'm talking to senators.

Yes.

Look, the pundits on CNN and MSNBC and even Fox to a certain extent are going to say what they think will enrich them

because they get paid per appearance.

They're going to say what they think the network wants to hear or whatever.

I don't even listen to them anymore, Beck.

I don't know.

Do you listen to them anymore?

I don't even listen to them.

The first time I watched cable news, and I don't know how long was last night.

Yeah, I mean,

I don't, I know what the game is.

I want to make money, so I'm going to say what I think is going to get me money.

And that's what it is.

So why am I bothering with that?

And I think the American public, you know, if you look at the viewership, it's going down, particularly among Americans 25 to 54, think they know the game is up.

You're not going to learn anything.

It's the same garbage.

But anyway, keep your eye on the New York Times, and it could be the Washington Post at the vehicle, but

there's stuff in the wind right now.

They're desperately trying to gin up something else.

So when you have Feinstein yesterday blaming the victim's friends for releasing this letter,

Bill, how

the friends didn't have the letter.

Diane Feinstein has ruined her reputation.

This morning, she attacked Kavanaugh as being belligerent.

I mean,

your jaw just drops.

The man

life and family and children are being destroyed, and he doesn't have a right to have some righteous anger on display about it, not according to Diane Feinstein.

Anybody following this, anybody paying attention knows that Feinstein orchestrated this whole thing.

It came from her.

It was leaked from her office.

I don't believe that Ford didn't know this was going on because the lawyers that Feinstein directed Ford II, as I said, are the most radical progressive lawyers in this country.

So this was a, as Lindsey Graham pointed out, a well-designed hit job

held back

in case they needed to destroy Kavanaugh at the final hour.

And they did need to destroy him because he was on his way to confirmation.

So it was all a methodically planned thing led by Diane Feinstein.

So the one thing that I did hear yesterday that I agreed with is, you know, Mark Judge is supposed to be, you know,

he's accused as well.

And I know he's sworn his statement.

It is different than sitting in front of a panel.

When Kavanaugh was asked about it, he kind of gave,

I thought, a really poor answer on it.

Why wouldn't you have called yesterday?

Why wouldn't they have called Mark Judge?

Politics.

They didn't want to take a chance that he would come in and not be credible.

This is a Republican side.

So why take the chance?

They have his affidavit, sworn affidavit.

And on Mr.

Judge's part, would you want to go in there and have your life ruined?

No.

Okay.

No.

So I think we can all understand why Mark Judge didn't want to go in because he would have been threatened, his whole family would have been threatened and his life would have been altered forever.

Does it bother you that he wrote that book and

basically talked about these kinds of things and used did it bother me yeah bart o'kavanaugh does it bother you that that's that he wrote this and and uh kavanaugh again didn't have a good answer for that but he had nothing to do with it i'm assuming that in the high school that they attended and i attended a similar school

that there was stupid stuff going on i i assume there was drinking and stupid stuff yeah all right so does it bother me i mean i'm not gonna cast judgment i every every Every American knows they've done dopey things in their life, particularly in high school and college.

Everybody knows that.

But I'm sitting there.

You asked me a question.

The Republicans on the Judiciary Committee didn't want anyone coming in who the Democrats could make a piñata out of.

That's why they didn't call them.

Do you think they made the right call by having the investigator ask all the questions yesterday?

No.

Why?

I don't believe she was

effective at all, and she wasted a tremendous amount of time.

She didn't have a sense of urgency.

She was far too accommodating in her,

you know.

Demeanor?

I think that basically

the Republicans on the committee were terrified

that they were going to be accused of

slamming a victim or a survivor.

That's the new word, survivor.

But this, the lady that they brought in from Arizona, she felt that she had all day to do this and she did not.

And she wasted an enormous amount of time.

And had not Lindsey Graham taken it away from her,

that hearing might have gone the other way.

Graham saved it.

Yeah, I was really

disappointed in the results of that.

I thought it was

kind of political cowardice that they didn't want to take it on, but I would understand it because there's no way to win.

Asking a survivor, there would be no way to understand where we are in America today, and this is so important

for every one of your listeners who is seeking the truth about life and about their country.

Anyone who goes up against the progressive movement,

anyone

is going to be attacked and their lives may be destroyed.

This is what happens in totalitarian regimes and it is happening

here because the press is enabling it.

Instead of fighting against that, the press is gleefully joining in,

piling the wood up on the pyre.

So that Dianne Feinstein can light the match.

This is where we we are in America today and I am praying and I and I use that word literally I go to church every Sunday.

I am praying that voters in November understand the danger of empowering a movement within the Democratic Party that says due process is obsolete and we have the right to tear you and your family apart if we disagree with you.

And this is in late night comedians now.

This is in the newspapers.

This is on CNN, all the network news.

It is coming, and it is coming at a frightening speed.

And the only people who can stop it are the American voter.

That's the only way to stop it.

Prediction for the November election.

Can't do it now.

We got to see what happens with Kavanaugh.

I do believe if he's confirmed, there'll be a backlash against Feinstein and her crew.

I do believe that.

But, you know, we talk every week about the third week in October.

I'll be able to give you a clearer view.

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We have to start looking at the bigger issue.

And one of the issues that we have to address is

this.

Is America a good place or a bad place?

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America is not a good place.

Capitalism is bad.

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i want to start this hour by by just asking you this question just this question

what is this all about Because it's not really about Kavanaugh and it's not about Ford.

It's not even about abortion or the power on the court.

It's really not.

not.

What we're experiencing this week is really about this.

Do we believe in due process?

Do we believe in kangaroo courts?

Do we believe in mob justice?

We all have to ask ourselves.

How do we want the system to work for us or for our family or our friends or our children when politics are not involved?

Because we we are changing America.

Every day we change America.

It becomes a reflection of us.

This, unfortunately, is a reflection of us.

Have you ever been accused of something you didn't do?

I mean anything by a brother or sister who always got away with everything.

No, that's not what happened.

And you weren't believed.

You were condemned.

Have you ever had somebody do something to you and you tried to tell people and they didn't believe you?

Well, that's Ford and Kavanaugh.

Imagine if you were accused of rape and you didn't do it.

There is a guy named Thomas Cotton who doesn't have to imagine this.

He was accused of rape and he got a fair trial and he went to prison.

I want to play his accuser's story story in her own voice.

Listen to this.

In 1984, I was a 22-year-old college student.

One night, someone broke into my apartment, put a knife in my throat, and he raped me.

During the ordeal, I studied every single detail on his face because I was confident, should I be allowed to see the next day,

that I was going to make sure he was put in prison and he was going to rot.

I went down to the police station.

I did a composite drawing.

Several days later, I did a physical lineup and I identified my attacker.

And I knew who he was.

I was confident I had picked the right guy and he was going to go to jail.

And if there was a death penalty, I would be there to pull the plug.

We went to court.

I stood on the witness stand and I put my hand on the Bible.

And I swore that I would tell the truth.

And I did.

And Ronald Cotton was sentenced to prison for life.

And it was the happiest day of my life.

Ronald Cotton was never going to get out.

He was never going to hurt another woman.

And he served until 1995 when DNA became available.

And I was asked to take a blood test.

The DNA test came back.

And the detective and the district attorney told me,

Ronald Cotton didn't rape you.

It was Bobby Poole.

the man I had never seen before in my life.

The man who was inches from my face with a knife to my throat.

Ronald Cotton was released after 11 years.

He and I are the same age.

During those 11 years, I had gone on.

I had been married.

I was a mommy.

Ronald Cotton didn't get to do that.

Ronald Cotton is married now, and he's a daddy.

And Ronald's my friend.

I'm here to tell you

that eyewitnesses can make mistakes.

This woman testified and told the truth, but she was wrong.

New evidence.

New evidence told the truth.

This is due process, and we still get it wrong.

Here's what Jake Tapper said about evidence other than he said she said last night.

The charges are upsetting, and

they're obviously, they've triggered an entire national conversation about sexual assault and sexual harassment, about the unequal way that women and girls are treated in this country.

At the same time, there is, as of now, no contemporaneous corroborating evidence for any of the charges, as far as we know.

We haven't seen anybody emerge and say, Yes, I remember that.

And that is an important part of the story as well.

That is not just an important part of the story.

That is the story.

That is the story.

And I, for one,

I for one, will not condemn Ford, and I will not condemn

Brett Kavanaugh.

I wasn't there.

I'm not God.

There is no evidence.

They need to vote to confirm.

And we need to stop the witch hunts.

It's Friday, September 28th.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

So in my book, Addicted to Outrage,

there are lots of examples of

why we should

really be talking about something entirely different.

Why we should be talking about how do we make, how do we strengthen this and spread this around the world.

Right now, our dialogue is America sucks.

Nothing is good.

Everything is bad.

And that is absolutely not true.

In the middle chapter of the book, I ask this question.

Is this worth saving?

Nobody's asking this.

We're talking about getting rid of capitalism, changing our whole system, changing everything about it.

It doesn't work.

No one is asking the question that must be asked first.

Is this worth saving?

Is America and the West good or bad?

It can be both because people are both.

But but is it on the on the whole has it helped more people or hurt more people we're not having that conversation we are having it now arthur brooks is the president of the american enterprise institute he's a guy who grew up in seattle i grew up in the seattle area he remembers the first time he saw poverty and i think It's the first time I really saw poverty as well.

I think it was probably the Michael Jackson,

that fundraiser, We Are the World, where we were trying to raise money for Ethiopia, and we saw these kids with the bloated stomachs and the flies on their face.

We had never seen anything like that.

That was a pivot point for Arthur Brooks in his life.

Arthur, welcome to the program.

Hey, brother Glenn, how are you?

Very good.

I'm good.

I am great.

I am great.

I wanted to get you on because we do not talk about

what capitalism and what this country has done, what the Western way of life has done, and we are just allowing it to be thrown out the window.

And you make compelling case because you didn't come at this with politics in mind.

No, I don't.

You know, and a lot of the things that we're talking about today, I was listening to the last segment of your great show, and you're talking about this big war, this big cultural battle that we're having in this country.

So whether it's about the Kavanaugh hearings or about the Trump administration or about capitalism in general, these are really kind of proxy cultural battles that we're having in our country today.

It's a culture of outrage.

You've talked about this a lot.

You've done yeoman's work on this important topic.

And it's important for all of us to remember, we are so unbelievably blessed in this country.

We live in a peaceful society.

I mean,

you'd go on social media if you dare, you know, if you can stomach it, and listen to people saying the most vile, ghastly things to each other.

But let's remember, there's going to be no knock in the night.

There's going to be no jack-booted thug.

Nobody's going to to take you off to prison.

God bless this country.

And we have to stop taking for granted the fact that we live in a democratic, peaceful society.

And we have to stop trashing each other all the time and having these dumb proxy wars.

It's completely unproductive.

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: So right now,

the big ideas are being trashed.

The ideas of freedom of speech,

because you have to have a

safety space,

all this nonsense.

Yeah.

But also capitalism itself.

When you saw the pictures back in the 80s of those starving Ethiopians, it bothered you, and you actually

set your feet on a course of trying to find out what happened to them, right?

It did.

I mean, the fact that I'm a political conservative today has everything to do with the fact that I share the objectives of most of

my left-wing friends and family that I care about poverty the most.

And I started to look for the way that you can wipe out poverty.

Everybody listening to us, Glenn, believes in their obligation, in fact their privilege to lift up their brothers and sisters at the margins of American society and society around the world.

What really matters is what works, what system works while you sleep.

I became a proponent of the American Free Enterprise System as a gift to the world because I wanted to do more to help my brothers and sisters.

And I found that there was one system that had pulled people up by the billions all around the world.

These are big issues that we need to be talking about in America today and how we can do this better.

Can you give me some of the stats, Arthur?

I don't know if you have them off the top of your head.

I do.

Oh, absolutely.

So, from 1970 until today, you know, when you and I were really little kids,

that was when the world started to open up and people started to see what was going on.

So, it was really in the 70s that people saw that Ethiopian famine.

I went to India for the first time when I was 19 years old in 1983.

I saw starving children.

It was ghastly.

From 1970 until today, 80% of the world's poverty has been eradicated.

Starvation-level poverty has been eradicated.

Now, 70% of Americans actually think that poverty is getting worse.

And the reason is because it's never like front page in the New York Times or any of the newspaper, millions saved from poverty.

I mean, that's not a news story.

You only see the things that are going wrong.

But the truth is that 2 billion of our brothers and sisters have been pulled out of starvation-level poverty, Glenn, since you and I were kids.

And there was one thing that did that, and that was democratic capitalism.

And that is America's export to the world.

I don't think you would disagree with me, Arthur, that we are not using the first half of Wealth of Nations moral sentiments.

We think that capitalism is just going to be good no matter

who's wielding it, and it's just going to produce wonderful things.

No,

as Adam Smith lines out, it can produce really bad things as well.

Capitalism depends on the people who are

wielding it, but also depends on what our goals are.

Yeah, absolutely.

And it's corrupt now.

Would you agree with that?

Yeah, that's it.

Well, because the problem is it's not capitalism.

A lot of what we see today, wire deals, cronyism, all the special stuff that's going on with powerful people in Washington, D.C., and in every state capital around the country, that's actually not competition.

That's trying to shut competition down on behalf of powerful people.

So competition is good.

Competition in politics and in economics and in the competition of ideas, ideas, the fact is that

the Glenn Beck show is part of the competition of ideas in a free and democratic nation.

It's very, very important.

Anybody who wants to shut down competition on behalf of powerful people is not a competitor, doesn't believe in capitalism, doesn't believe in democracy, and doesn't believe in the free exchange of ideas.

To compete means to do it better than the other guy, fairly, peacefully, and respectfully, and to win over an audience.

And so that's really what we ought to be doing, and that's what we're moving away from.

Okay, so Arthur, I'm going to take a quick break, and I want to come back with a question that I cannot find a satisfactory answer on.

I am a big believer in capitalism.

However,

throughout history, some people like Vanderbilts, et cetera, et cetera, they get so much money, they have so much power that they are controlling things.

And it just seems to spiral out of control when you have

just a lock on this wealth.

And we are creating people through Google, et cetera, et cetera, that are doing the same thing.

How do you balance the power?

How do you make sure, who can compete against Google?

How are you going to do that?

How does that work when you get to that point?

And I'd like to hear your answer on that when we come back.

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Make sure you listen to his podcast, The Arthur Brooks Show.

Really smart guy, really good guy, musician.

Grew up in, you know, in the Pacific Northwest.

It kind of sounds like he kind of had a typical Seattle hippie kind of family

and went around the world.

It's in a documentary.

I think the documentary is called,

it's it called Arthur?

The pursuit.

And he's got a fascinating life and was just really searching for answers.

Came to find that capitalism is what solves all these problems that we have and has made huge, huge increases in happiness around the world and health.

So

my problem here, and the only loose end I can't tie up, is people like Rockefeller that have, you know, they do something because, you know,

they discovered oil and they were smart enough to put it all together.

And they accumulate this power and then with all of that money comes corruption.

And they start to control everybody else's lives and start making all the decisions because they have all of this money.

How do you reconcile that?

Because I don't want to take money away from people.

Right.

No, I got it, Glenn.

And, you know, it is distressing when you see something like a family where there was a patriarch that was a good entrepreneur, but then kind of built a moat around the castle.

Yes.

And that kept a bunch of wealth in the family for six generations and made it harder for other people to rise through current capitalism.

That's a big problem.

That's actually not capitalism.

That's a different system.

That's basically a system of wired deals that you could find in any socialist system, any monarchy, any place all around the world.

And that's something that we have to fight, whether it's capitalism or

whatever ism, whatever economic system that we've got.

We have to democratize opportunity.

The problem is not that we've got very rich people.

The problem is people have a hard time rising.

And we have to be putting our resources and our energy and our law and our initiative toward people that are at the bottom, not so they can all get to the top, but so that they can get to the middle.

The essence of the American experience, the moral basis of the American experience, is that

three generations ago, the Brookses and the Becks

who were just like scratching out potatoes someplace, they're nothing more than ambitious riffraff who came to this country and wanted to get to the middle and support themselves and their families.

And we have to be warriors for a system that makes sure that people can go from the bottom to the middle.

You know, right now, it's a very distressing thing.

You know, you go to any good Ivy League university and you're going to find that there's a system of preferences for legacies.

You know, if you went to a university, it's only only four or five times more likely that your kid is going to get into that great university, which all that is is just saying you got into the Lucky Genetics Club.

You know, that's actually not compatible with a system of American opportunity, with a system of equal dignity of experience.

And so that's actually what we need to be thinking about.

Don't worry about Google.

Worry a lot more about the fact that people at the periphery, the bottom of our society, can't rise today.

That's the really un-American thing.

And why can't they rise?

They can't rise rise because we have a discriminatory system of unequal education where poor kids are locked into public education systems.

Their parents don't have choices, number one.

Number two is we don't have skills training in our communities.

We tell people that if they don't go to college, they're somehow losers.

We don't have vocational and technical education systems, which is the ultimate education reform.

We don't have an apprenticeship system in this country.

And most importantly, Glenn, we don't culturally value the skills that come from actually not not going to college, where people actually have work skills

when they can get ahead.

If we do those things, we can really recreate the opportunity society.

How did the apprentice system go away?

It went away for a bunch of different reasons, but part of it had to do with the fact that back in the 19, until the 1960s, there was a parallel tracking system in America where white kids would be tracked toward college and black kids, especially in the South, would be tracked toward the trades.

And you and I know that one of the great advances in American society was the civil rights movement, where we did away with stuff like that.

Unfortunately, there were some things where we threw the baby out with the bathwater.

White kids, black kids, every kind of kid should have the opportunity to succeed through hard work and skills and personal initiative without going to college.

It's amazing, Arthur, that it's that early.

I think of apprenticeships, and I think, you know, you're going back to

Charles Dickens' times since we've seen it.

It's amazing that those, that really disappeared in the 60s and 70s.

Back with more, Arthur Brooks.

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Brooks.

He's the president of the American Enterprise Institute.

Arthur,

as we're talking about, is this system even worth saving?

Yesterday in politics, it was a nightmare.

And people are just turned off by it.

And I think they just don't want anything to do with it.

On both sides of the aisle, I think anybody who

is a rational human being is like, this is not good.

None of this is good.

However,

we're not having anyone stand up for the Bill of Rights, the Constitution.

That's why politics has gone awry because we've

unpegged from that.

Capitalism has got a horrible name.

You now have 50%

of young voters saying,

you know, socialism is great.

I want what they have over in Sweden.

But that's not what they have in Sweden, is it?

No, it isn't.

And by the way, there are some people standing up for the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, guys like Glenn Beck.

I mean, you've got a major megaphone and you're standing up for what's right and true and good.

The big problem is that there are too many people in media and in politics and entertainment and on college campuses on the right and the left who are just dining out on the fact that we have a culture of contempt in this country, contempt for each other.

I mean, Glenn, you and I, we both have, and everybody listening to us, we love people who disagree with us politically.

That's fine.

That's a good thing.

I mean, we all should have friends and people that we love who disagree with us.

We don't have to agree with them.

We should disagree strongly, but we don't have to hate them.

And there are people that are making money and getting famous and getting powerful by trying to get us to hate each other even more.

We should be talking about these good things that you talked about, the things that really bring us together, and then try to disagree in a way that the competition can actually convince other people, persuade other people of our ideas.

But that's the big problem right now.

Too many people are getting too rich by getting us to hate our neighbors, and that's not right.

So, Arthur,

let's have the conversation.

I'm somebody in college, and I say capitalism is evil, and there's nothing wrong with socialism.

Socialism is great.

It works in the Netherlands.

Yeah, I know.

So I hear it all the time because I'm on college campuses all the time.

The way not to take that on is by trying to create liberal tears.

That's the wrong way to do it, is to attack somebody's motive and to say their belief system is stupid.

You can never, ever, ever insult somebody into agreement.

And by the way, it's an immoral thing to do because these are your brothers and sisters as well.

The key thing to start off with in any argument is to acknowledge the objective, the moral objective of the people,

is to give voice to the fact that you want these socialist systems because you want something where

people have more equality, where people have more opportunity, right?

And get people to say, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, well, let's figure out the best possible way to do it and then make the positive case for capitalism and democracy and free enterprise and entrepreneurship because it's lifted more people out of poverty than any system in human history.

It's created a system of equal opportunity that nobody's ever thought of in the history of humanity.

And now the problem is not that this is unequal, but what we haven't actually tried to make it as equal as possible and push it all the way out to the periphery of society.

Let's do that together.

Can you give the argument?

Because most, I think even most conservatives,

fold on the the Netherlands or Sweden when people say, I want socialism like Sweden.

Can Can you describe what that is?

Yeah, so I just, this movie, The Pursuit, that you mentioned in the last segment, is coming out in the spring.

And part of it is actually filmed in Denmark.

Denmark is considered to be the happiest country in the world.

It's a social democracy.

It has the highest tax rates in the world.

About 75% of your income goes to the government.

And so I went there.

I went to Denmark and I hung out with some families there.

And the truth is, if you're into that, you know, more power to you.

But I don't see very many people who are actually trying to move to Denmark.

I do see lots of people in Denmark that are trying to move to America.

Why?

Because it's the antithesis culturally of what it means to be an American.

Danish society, Scandinavian society, is built on the idea don't stand out.

Don't be different.

Don't think that you're something special.

Don't try to...

So if you're

this country, America is built by oddballs, like, you know, like Glenn Beck and Arthur Brooks.

weird dudes who have actually tried to do different things.

And in Denmark, if you you know, if you you want to get rich or you want to start a company or you're really super religious like you and me or or you want to have eight kids, forget about it.

They're going to look at you like you're a freak.

And that's a big problem.

So if you want to, socialism is not just a social deal.

Socialism is actually a cultural deal.

And so and basically where everybody has the same amount of money, everybody has to be alike as well.

So if you like being a weirdo, if you like being an oddball, if you like being yourself, you better stay in America and you better make the American system better.

Don't try to get the Danish system.

And that is one reason why it has been successful, one reason why it is now falling apart, and one reason why it would not work here is there was no diversity.

There was no diversity.

Now that they have opened up the borders, there's diversity and people don't want to live their life that way and it's falling apart.

Am I wrong?

People are different.

People are different.

It's like it's a country of it's a boutique society of 5.3 million people.

The Danes, they basically, they're like hobbits.

You know, they kind of live in the shire.

And then when there's a whole bunch of immigration, look, in America, you know, despite the fact that we have these, you know, controversies about the wall and about the immigration system, and that a lot of people listening to us today disagree on this, fundamentally, we all come from immigrants, and we all like immigrants.

We like hardworking people who come from different places and integrate into our society.

Most Europeans, they can't handle it.

They don't know how to do it.

They don't think of themselves as fundamentally from some other place.

Look, a thousand years ago, the Danish ancestors of current Danes were Vikings living in Denmark.

A thousand years ago, I haven't the slightest idea where my family was, but God knows they weren't in Seattle.

Arthur, one last thought.

Yesterday, the hearings were

people came into it and they saw what they wanted to see one way or another.

I don't think it changed anybody's mind.

It was all about politics and the politics of destruction, I think.

But we,

you know, when Lindsey Graham spoke yesterday, it kind of felt good to a lot of people in this audience.

And I thought it was righteous indignation myself.

I think there are a lot of people that feel this way.

Knock it off.

This is shameful, what is happening.

But there is a difference between righteous indignation and

playing the game the way others are playing it.

They're playing for destruction.

If we reach out and play for destruction as well, I think we lose and we hasten our own destruction.

People think that that is surrender.

You want me to surrender?

You want me not to say anything?

That's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying fight the right way.

People kind of have given up on being able to win without playing dirty.

Can you make a case that

you shouldn't do that?

Yeah, no, though, Glenn Beck speaks truth right now.

Everybody's got to listen.

This is the truth.

You know, there is not a long-term reward that comes from being a bad person.

Here's the key thing.

Most people listening to us today are conservatives, like you and me, and they're watching

their own filter bubble.

Look, we all hear things through our own experience and through our own biases.

I got it.

I got it.

But standing up

in righteous ignition, look, if you're a senator and you're in a hearing, fine.

But for the rest of us, standing up to the left, standing up to the other side when they're wrong around the Thanksgiving table or on social media, it has a very limited impact.

Why?

Because we're not going to actually be taken seriously unless we hold our own side to the same moral standard.

So if we really want to be effective on the right, what we need to do is we need to look at contempt and hatred and mockery and sarcasm and derision on the right and call it out and say,

these arguments are not living up to my own moral standard.

And we hold ourselves to a higher moral standard.

We will not lose.

I've got the data on this, Clenn.

In the long run,

the moral high road, which doesn't have to be weak, it doesn't have to give in to anybody else's argument, but to say, through love and respect, I believe that you are not living up to your own objectives.

And to say to our own side, we will not stand for hatred.

That's not who we are.

That's the secret to long-term success.

I believe that we are entering a time, and yesterday I think only hastened it, where people see this and they don't want to be a part of either side.

They don't want to be a part.

They're good Democrats who do not stand with Antifa and are bothered by that.

But I don't think they have anywhere to go because

we have been painted as haters, but also

we are

we shout down people, not the way they do necessarily on the left, but it feels good to do that.

Do you see any movement on the left that common sense Democrats are starting to say, wait a minute, I'm not in lockstep with this?

I do.

This is not what gets all the publicity.

Screaming ladder is what gets all the publicity on the right and on the left.

But when I look at the data, I see 70% of Americans hate it.

They feel that they're being,

and again, this is half-right wing and half-left 70% of Americans believe that we're being held hostage and we're being terrorized by powerful people who are profiting from us hating each other and saying terrible things to each other.

And they don't like it.

They want to fight back.

We have

the opportunity to create a new moral movement where we can bring our brothers and sisters on the center left and even on the left together to try to solve some problems in this country and where we can say, I don't hate you.

These kinds of what's going on in the Senate right now, what's going on with these hearings right now, is a proxy battle.

It's like an Angolan civil war where the Soviet Union and the United States are sending troops against each other in the 1980s to fight it out on somebody else's battleground.

Americans have to say enough with these ideological this ideological warfare between right and left and where we're being the ones in the middle, where we're effectively being held hostage.

We want better than this in this country.

We we don't have to back down from be conservatives at all.

We just have to recognize that we don't have to agree.

It's okay in this country to have actual disagreement.

That's the basis of our excellence.

You know, your message has always been so good, Glenn, because you don't hate anybody.

And we have to, as leaders, we have an opportunity to help Americans to love their enemies and in so doing to find the basis of our strength.

Arthur Brooks, thank you so much for being on the program.

We have to have you on more often.

You are well-spoken, well-thought-out, full of facts, and you're on the right path.

Arthur Brooks, you can follow him at Arthur Brooks at arthorbrooks.com/slash podcast.

You can listen to his podcast.

I highly encourage it.

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Most Republicans if not all I've seen in my lifetime since Ronald Reagan fold immediately

immediately somebody is even bluffing at the table I've got this they fold They don't want to fight.

They're not willing to fight.

Donald Trump allowed this fight to happen yesterday, and Kavanaugh would have been completely discredited, I think, under any other president.

He would have just gone away discredited because they would have said, you know what, it's not worth it.

We don't believe those charges.

And he would have had no platform to defend himself.

Donald Trump, the one thing to say about him, he is a fighter.

He does not give up.

And, And, you know, sometimes that's good.

Sometimes that's bad.

Yesterday, it was very good

because I can't think of any other president in my lifetime since Ronald Reagan that would have stood for this and would have stood against it.

Do you?

No, I know.

He surprises me on a pretty regular basis.

And I guess I should be used to it by now.

But,

you know, that's why people voted for him.

Yep.

For this very reason.

He's willing to stand and make this fight because he believes in in it.

And it's not, it's just nothing.

I really didn't think he had it in him.

Yeah.

You know, we've talked about it before.

You've got to admit when you're wrong.

And here's another case of me being wrong.

And I will tell you, I think they're going to confirm him.

And they confirm him.

I think this guy is such a solid citizen, at least from what I know, that I don't think he would ever do this.

But boy, oh boy, Democrats,

I would hate to see your case come up against the Supreme Court with him.

And if you're Feinstein and

you're battling in the

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He is a solid citizen and will be fair, but you deserve every sleepless night you get prior to that.

Just wondering if he can be fair.

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