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Courage Truth Glenn Back He was kidnapped, he was bound with duct tape, gagged with an old sock, beaten, he was stabbed, and he was forced to drink toilet water.

They gave him death threats, made racist remarks, and it was all caught on camera.

Intentionally, of course.

Do you remember this attack?

It happened in Chicago.

Four black teens kidnapped a mentally disabled young man and then streamed it live on Facebook for the whole world to see.

One of the kidnappers, Brittany Herring Covington, she was 19.

She was the person that actually recorded the torture on her phone.

She's the one who's caught laughing the entire time.

Tell him to go further.

A Chicago judge recently let her walk away with just 200 hours of community service after she pleaded guilty to a hate crime, aggravated battery, and intimidation charges.

Why the leniency?

Because the judge said, I think if I send her to jail, I don't know if she's going to come out any better.

Oh.

Can I ask you,

what does the statue of Lady Justice look like?

I know she's blindfolded, but I don't think that's blindfold blindfold anymore.

She's holding the scales of justice to weigh both sides.

But then she's holding a sword, and that sword is for swift justice.

Here the judge was thinking about the attacker's best interest.

Well,

I understand we just don't want to throw people in jail.

We want something to work.

But we also need some punishment.

Somehow or another, this just doesn't seem just.

The three other kidnappers, by the way, are still awaiting trial, and they deserve far more than community service, in my humble opinion.

I don't understand what's happening to us.

Thursday, last week, former police officer was acquitted of murder or manslaughter for an on-duty shooting.

Remember,

this happened the same week that a jury in San Francisco

found a man innocent of murder or manslaughter after he killed a woman by shooting her on a pier.

Have you seen the body cam footage of the police officer that shows an intoxicated, unarmed man?

His name was Daniel Shaver.

He's crawling towards the police crying, please, please don't shoot me.

The officer shot him five times, killed him.

Maybe, maybe this is consistent with police training.

That's what his attorney successfully successfully argued.

But if you watch that footage, I'm sorry, I can't see how that man posed a threat

to the man with the AR.

This was an unnecessary death.

Here's what I just want to ask.

Are these three trials signs that we are way over the cliff?

These three trials

kidnapping and brutalizing a handicapped person.

And you get

community service?

Killing a woman

on the pier in San Francisco, not holding her up, just firing a gun.

I don't need murder, but manslaughter.

And the one that I really hate to judge because I'm not in their position

is a police officer shooting a man.

Now I wasn't standing in the hallway.

But what the hell has happened to our juries?

What is happening to our judges?

What has happened to our

grasp on reality?

Have we all forgotten common decency and common sense?

It's Tuesday, December 12th.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

Welcome to the program.

You know, we have Frank Luntz coming on in just a minute.

He's going to tell us what he found in Alabama

because the Roy Moore election is happening today.

And let me just save the press an awful lot of time.

If Roy Moore wins, here's why.

We are now at a point

of voting for the lesser of two evils.

But that,

in and of itself, is the problem.

We are looking at two things

that most people in America on both sides think are evil.

One,

a guy who is propositioning young girls,

a guy who may have behaved wildly inappropriately with these girls, may have threatened one of them, may

and may have been, when he was in his 30s, been hitting on 14, 15, 16-year-old girls.

I don't know how you square that.

That's just, that's,

if it's just hitting on the 16 to 18-year-old girls and trying to kiss and date them, but doing it, you know, respectfully, There's no law broken, but I find it creepy.

The others, if the others appear to be, you know, something that was unwanted and

beyond creepy, possibly, possibly illegal.

I don't know of a single person in my life that if I asked you if these things were true,

do you think that's evil?

Yes.

If those things are, if all of it is true, yes.

At best, it's creepy.

And I don't want to be around that person.

So there's the evil.

Evil number one.

Who's he running against?

He's running against a guy who says abortion on demand.

It doesn't matter how...

abortion, partial birth abortion, once it leaves the birth canal, this is a quote, then I'll protect the baby.

Then I'm pro-life.

But until that baby is born, it is the right of the mother to do whatever she wants to do with that baby.

Now, 80% plus in America believes that's not just immoral, that's evil.

80% of Americans are against that.

80% of Americans have enough common sense to know that's a baby, man.

That is a baby.

You can't just partially birth a baby and then stick scissors in the back of its neck.

That's evil.

So if Roy Moore is elected today,

that's why.

Period.

Which is more evil?

Well, I don't really want.

Well, you got to choose.

Well, I really don't want either.

You've got to choose.

Well,

okay.

A guy that maybe, maybe 30 years ago did these things.

There's no current allegations.

Maybe he's not that way anymore if he ever was.

Or the guy who is currently saying I'll jam scissors in the, in the back of the neck, into the head, and kill a baby in the birth canal.

He's currently saying that?

Let me think, which one's more evil.

That's why.

I don't think people want either of them.

But this system

has created both of them.

I think if you had a third choice,

One that was just a normal human being.

I think that person might win.

But make no mistake, that is why.

If he does win,

that's why he'll win.

So, Stu, some

the Roy Moore thing.

First of all, the polls are everywhere.

I've never seen polls like this.

They have no idea.

They have no idea what's going to happen soon.

They have no idea.

Some polls show Roy Moore up 10.

Some show him down 10.

Some show a tide.

I mean, that's a 20-point swing.

Maybe it really is.

They don't know.

Nobody has any idea.

I would be

very surprised if Roy Moore does not win that election.

Me too.

I will be.

And in fact, I honestly expect him to win it handily.

Six, something like that.

Me too.

Now, I don't know if that's true.

I mean, really, the polling does not give that indication.

The polling is very mixed.

This shows that Jones has a chance.

I think

what you just said is really

important.

And I think Frank Luntz talked about this a little bit as well.

He's coming up to talk about the election, but to steal a little bit of his thunder.

If Jones was a pro-life Democrat, he's probably up by five or ten.

Yes.

He would win.

But he's not.

He's actually a Debbie Wasserman-Schultz Democrat when it comes to that issue.

And that is not going to play in Alabama.

Can I ask you,

when did America become these two extremes?

When did America become

these two

polar, couldn't be further from each other opposites?

When?

How is this good for any of us?

I mean, this is the Facebook world.

It really is.

You are either

for us or you're against us.

I either like you or I hate you and you need to be destroyed.

Yeah, no, I mean,

that's the issue, right?

That's the one we're dealing with every single day.

I think you could look at this election honestly fairly and say it's probably not all that big of a deal either way.

I mean, the Republicans are going to have a majority either way.

This is going to last until 2020,

until there's another election for the seat.

This seat will likely go Republican then anyway.

2018 is very

healthy towards Senate Republicans, so they'll likely hold the Senate anyway.

If Doug Jones gets in, he's not going to make abortion more legal.

No.

Right?

Like

Roy Moore is probably not going to start molesting 14-year-olds in the Senate.

No.

Like almost none of the things that have been talked about with this election actually affect anything.

It's just, I swear, it's just a way for us to entertain ourselves for a couple of months until the next story hits.

No, it's not even that.

It's not even that.

It's a way for people to make money by having ratings and sell, you know, what, newspapers to get clicks.

That's all this is about.

And for the parties to drive a wedge between us.

That's what this is about.

It's not going to make any difference.

It's not going to make any difference.

Not in the short term.

I mean, is it possible that one vote will come down to,

you know, needing that seat?

It's definitely possible that that could happen.

It could change a little bit of legislation on the fringes.

Maybe there's a perk put in there for, you know, John McCain that wouldn't normally be in there if this seat isn't there.

It's possible.

I don't think John McCain's going to be around that long.

Well, I mean, that's a whole other story.

But I mean, bottom line is it could have some,

it's possible.

It could have some short-term policy consequences within the next couple of years.

It's possible.

possible, but there's also possibility of the other side going awry.

I mean, having, you know, who knows what Roy Moore is going to do, and, you know, the associations there aren't necessarily universally positive either.

In fact, many people have noted the opposite.

So

there's enough unknowns on both sides here.

And the downside of either outcome is not all that significant.

And that is the, it's not the type of analysis.

As you point out, there is something going on here, which is there's an industry built around making these things things exciting and intense, and the most important thing that's ever happened to you.

Every election is always the most important thing that's ever happened to you, and that we are part of that industry.

I realize it's a terrible idea to come out and say that it's not the most important thing that's ever happened to you, but this election is not the most important thing that's ever happened to you.

It isn't a

men.

Frank Lutz coming up in just a second to tell us what he found in Alabama and what he thinks.

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May I ask, who is giving Roy Moore advice?

Did you see the video that came out where they had like a 12-year-old girl do an interview with him?

Play a little bit of this.

Will you serve please?

Not a good idea.

So what do you think are the characteristics of a really, really good senator?

Following the Constitution, just adhering to principle and not going to get elected again and not trying to stay in office for 30 or 40 years and building an empire, you're there to serve the people.

Serve people.

My position is Alabama Senator, the people of Alabama.

But a lot of the issues that I stand for would be the good of the country.

So, being like, what can my country do for me instead of doing that?

What can I do for my country?

Stop.

The little girl in the pigtails.

Not a good idea.

What are you thinking?

This is some Trump super PAC or something.

I set this up, apparently.

Okay.

So then

his wife takes to the microphone.

Now, out of all of the things that I've heard about Roy Moore,

anti-Semite is not one of them.

But they addressed that.

Listen to this.

fake news would tell you that we don't care for Jews.

I tell you all this because I've seen it all, so I just want to set the record straight while they're here.

One of our attorneys is a Jew.

Stop.

Stop.

Stop.

Stop.

What are you thinking?

I was, I was, one of our maids is black.

I uh, I wasn't going to vote for Roy Moore, largely based on the fact that I did not believe he had a Jewish attorney.

But now that I know he's got a Jewish attorney, who is advising these people?

Stop it.

Glenn back.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

So if I had to, if I could talk to only one person to try to figure out what America was thinking, that one person would be Frank Luntz.

He runs Luntz Global,

and you can find out all about it at focuswithfrank.com.

But he

does things for businesses and politicians and and everything else when you're really trying to get a bead on what people are feeling frank is really good with his focus groups and he's just been in alabama welcome to the program frank lunts how are you you are always the kindest person to me on the radio i don't know if your listeners have ever met you before but you have always been the kindest guy and i'm not sure if that's your image

Yes, you do, Frank.

If anybody knows my image, you would know my image.

I thought you knew the people, Frank.

You don't know that's not his image.

That's clearly not my image.

So, Frank, tell me what you found in Alabama.

So, we found a very polarized and extremely excited, intense, passionate electorate that desperately wants to send a message to Washington.

And to my greatest surprise, that message is coming just as hard to the Republican establishment as it is to the Democrats.

There is as much criticism of the Republican leadership in Congress as there was their Democratic opponents.

And this is among Republicans.

And that tells me that Alabama is a symptom of what's happening across the country.

And what's happening across the country?

I think that people are just as fed up today as they were one year ago.

I think that they're disappointed with the rate rate of change in Washington, that the swamp has not been drained.

And I think that they're ready to say, I've had it,

and I'm going to vote even more people out in the next election.

So, Frank,

the idea that Alabama

has to vote for somebody who is

accused of improprieties and possibly worse,

you know, 20 years ago, and a guy who is abortion on demand, it's really truly the lesser of two evils.

And, you know, for God-fearing people,

you know, abortion is more evil than somebody doing something 20 years ago.

Do I have that right or wrong?

You have it right, but I be careful because that's not, they will not let themselves be caught saying that.

What they're saying is that it is all evil, that it all needs to change, and that this is the guy, Roy Moore, in their minds.

This is the guy who they think is most likely to shake the hell out of Washington, D.C.

So, what do they feel about the accusations?

They don't think they're true.

They don't think that they're real.

They think that these are women who've been paid by

Gloria Allred or The Laughter, whoever.

Or even what's his name?

Even

Soros.

Soros and the Democrats, they think that

America is under attack, is under siege, and they desperately want to send a message, enough is enough, and they want to do it in an emotional way.

So what do you think this means, Frank?

Assuming that Roy Moore wins, do you think he's going to win?

I can't, you know, I've never, in in my professional life, I've never held back

a projection.

I've always felt that I should speak up because that's my job as a pollster is to know what's going to happen.

I can't do it this time.

Glenn, I just don't know.

I don't believe any of the polls.

I think someone's going to look really foolish

when the election is over.

Yeah, I think, I mean, you know, I've never seen, have you seen a 20-point spread in polls?

Never.

Yeah.

And there was a spread during Clinton.

But the spread during Clinton was a 10-point spread.

It means that an awful lot of people are lying to pollsters right now, and that's because they're afraid of the pressure.

This essence of political correctness, which is the thing that I urge you to address, I urge you on your shows going forward to talk about it because it is poisoning our students' minds.

It is poisoning the public debate that we can no longer say what we truly believe out of fear that it will hurt us professionally or personally.

But how do you, you know, Frank, I would love to, I would love to have you on for an extended period of time because I think you could teach us so much.

And I mean the audience in America.

How do you have that conversation when millennials are saying that

there should be safe zones, there should be limits on speech?

Right, but those are, by their definitions, safe zones.

So that you're not allowed to ask the question, why does a murderer in California, who shouldn't even be in this country, why does that person get let off you can't have a conversation about border security but on the same token Glenn you also can't say

why is there such negativity in this tweeting why can't we treat each other with respect as we are criticizing each other for beliefs that we don't share I think that the coarseness of our culture has been so

so destroyed by social media that the ability to talk to each other in a tough but respectful way is gone.

It's not that it's going.

It's gone.

Frank, you and I have seen each other at some really low points.

We have seen each other where I've come to you at, Frank, help me.

I have no hope left.

Have you found hope in all of the polling?

No, not at all.

I'm in the worst place I've ever been in my professional life

internally.

I don't really want to have this conversation with a million people.

But no, I don't because

I understand the Trump voter who is desperate to save his or her country.

I understand the feeling of African Americans who don't want to go back to the 1950s and 60s because that was a bad time for them in this country.

I understand those who came from other countries legally, but they're being demonized by the illegal population.

I get millennials who are nervous about where the country is headed.

They see the fires and they see the hurricanes and they see the weather and they wonder what's going on.

I hear all of this and I appreciate it.

But the truth is, most people don't.

They see what they want to see and they disregard the rest.

Is there a way in this world of social media, is there a way to come back together?

Is there a message that will bring us together?

Because I feel exactly the same way, Frank.

I really, truly believe that the vast majority of people feel this way.

They're tired of this.

They don't want to live like this.

They don't want to be at each other's throats.

Well, I want two things.

One is, this is a plug, but not really.

I want to hear from those people.

And if they go to Lunch Global, which is my website, they can sign up for the focus groups that you talk about and that you watch.

They can sign up and their voices can be heard, and there won't be any shouting and there won't be any disrespect.

They'll get a chance to be heard and they'll get a chance to learn from others.

But the other thing is, I want them to see this Vice News HBO clip.

And all you have to do is go onto YouTube, type in Alabama and my name, and they'll see the entire seven and a half minutes.

Some of it should shock you, should shock them by how

explicit they are.

Tell Tell me about it.

I have a simple question.

A 14-year-old, one of the people said his grandmother was married when she was 13 and she had two kids by the time she was 15.

That there are a lot of people who would be proud that their daughter of that age was dating a district attorney.

I don't get that.

That doesn't compute to me.

And I don't care if that's 2017 or he was referring to 20 or 30 years ago.

It ain't right.

It just isn't.

But you know, that's the one thing.

I mean, I keep coming back, Frank, to, you know, Jerry Lee Lewis.

He married his 13-year-old cousin, and nobody in the South had a problem with that.

Well, they did have a problem with it.

You know this.

No, they had a problem.

No, no, no.

They had a problem with it in England, and that's what really tore everything apart.

Well, he would have been, I think he would have been as big as Elvis.

I do, too.

The man was one of the greatest piano players.

And by the way, he played here in L.A.

about three weeks ago.

And even in his 80s, the man is brilliant.

But he never had the career that he could have had because outside his home area, Americans found that too much to tell him.

Correct.

Correct.

Outside of his home area.

But his home area, and this is really kind of the

same kind of area that Roy Moore

is from.

I mean, it's different, especially back then.

But does that make it okay?

No.

There was segregation back then.

Does that make it okay?

No.

So that's the issue that I have.

I know we cannot judge.

I've been through this with so many people with these conversations.

We cannot judge values and morals by today's standards in looking back 40 years ago because we think differently and we act differently.

But that said,

I don't feel like we've learned what we should have learned.

I don't feel like we have that same commonality that existed in this country years ago.

I think there's so much more that divides us than unites us, and we're looking for those divisions.

We are seeking to tear ourselves apart, and that's frightening to me.

What is the biggest thing we have in common?

Well, the biggest thing is an appreciation for the country.

But I will tell you right now that one out of five Americans isn't patriotic anymore.

One out of five Americans does not feel that this is the greatest country on the earth, does not feel that our system is the best system.

And that's different.

That was the one thing that united us 25 years ago.

Under Reagan's administration, we all thought that with even with our imperfections, we were still the best.

That exceptionalism is gone in one out of five Americans.

And out of those one out of five Americans, what do they think is the best?

They just believe

anything better?

No.

They won't give anything better, but they refuse to accept American exceptionalism.

By the way, they do tend to vote Democrat a lot more than voting Republican, but I don't want to bring partisanship into this.

When you can't even agree on your country's

values, then we're in deep trouble.

Have you tested the Bill of Rights?

Yes.

How are those testing?

Those principles?

It's really weird.

It's like, have you tested mom and apple pie?

Right.

Right.

Well, the first problem is that Americans don't even know what the Bill of Rights are.

They don't know the three systems of government.

We have more people in this country who believe that UFOs exist than believe Social Security will exist by the time they retire.

We have more people in this country that can name the home of the Simpsons than where Abraham Lincoln was born.

More people can name more Kardashians.

they can name members of the Supreme Court.

All of that scare the living hell out of me because we know our pop culture absolutely to the last detail and we know nothing about our founding fathers.

Frank Luntz, he is the founder and chairman of Luntz Global.

I urge you to

go to focus with Frank.com and sign up for some of his

testing.

He is one of the best listeners.

He is truly empathetic

and can hear beyond the words.

I think he is,

quite honestly, I think he is a solution to many of the things that ail us.

If more people will speak honestly and more people like Frank will listen,

please go to focuswithfrank.com and sign up to be part of his focus groups, focuswithfrank.com.

Frank Lunt's always a pleasure and a privilege to have you on the program.

Thank you, sir.

Thank you.

He's an amazing man.

A tortured soul.

That's exactly the word I was about to use.

Tortured soul.

He's an interesting dude, man.

He just seems, he seems tortured by this.

And he loves to do it.

He loves the country.

He's got all the information.

He doesn't know what to do.

And nobody will listen.

And

we've had so many conversations.

So many conversations.

He's a tortured soul, but man, he's

knows his stuff and he's a good, decent guy.

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One other thing to add about Alabama is that the people of Alabama just don't trust the people presenting the information about Roy Moore.

Correct.

And let me give you an example of this.

This is about Al Franken and his accusations from the New York Times.

And the grand cavalcade of sexual assault charges we've been hearing lately.

His list, Franken's list, goes from fanny gropes to tongue thrusts.

It's appalling but pretty minor league.

And the picture of Franken feeling up the well-protected breasts of a sleeping colleague on a tour could have been subtitled Portrait of a Comedian who does not suspect he'll ever run for senator.

Franken was a good politician, and many Democrats hoped he might grow into a presidential candidate.

But it was his destiny to serve history in a different way.

Wow.

Eight women came out against him to accuse of sexual assault and they describe it as serving history.

He is

a hero.

Glenn back.

Love.

Courage.

Truth.

Glenn back.

Roy Moore or Doug Jones?

Alabama.

Alabama's finally decide today.

This morning, most polls have Roy Moore slightly ahead.

Fox News has Jones leading by 10 points.

It's very close.

There's a 20-point swing either way.

Nobody knows.

Democrats have driven themselves insane for about a year trying to figure out what happened

when it comes to Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton.

Now the left can't understand why Jug Jones isn't running away with this race after the really creepy allegations against Roy Moore.

Why would conservatives vote for a creep?

Are all conservatives creeps?

What does this say about conservatives?

Why would Christians support someone like Roy Moore?

Does Christianity now condone Roy Moore-like behavior?

That's what they're thinking.

That's what they're struggling with.

They don't understand.

They don't understand that you don't trust the media at all.

You don't trust them.

You don't trust the people that are coming out.

And

another big factor.

For many conservatives in Alabama, this is the same struggle they had in the last presidential election where they held their nose, voted for Trump.

Why would they do that?

Democrats, press, listen carefully.

I save you a ton of time and effort because the answer is really simple.

One,

they don't trust the messengers.

You must stop calling them names.

You have to start listening to them.

The second thing, abortion.

Being a single-issue voter is

not really sophisticated enough to many on the left and the right.

But defending life is such a fundamental principle for most conservatives that it will override most other factors.

Yes, even more Roy Moore-type allegations.

Couple that with this guy is a renegade, an outsider.

The people in the party don't like him.

That's bonus.

That's the political reality in America.

They not only don't trust the press, they don't trust

the GOP or the DNC.

What do you trust, America?

The deciding factor in this race wasn't the revelation about Roy Moore's dating habits 40 years ago.

It was when NBC's Chuck Todd asked Doug Jones his thoughts on abortion 20 weeks into a pregnancy.

Now, I'm not in favor of anything that is going to infringe on a woman's right and her freedom to choose.

That's just the position that I've had for many years.

It's the position I continue to have.

But when those people, I want to make sure if people understand that once a baby is born, I want to be there for that child.

That's where I become a right to lifer.

For most conservatives in Alabama and throughout the country, that's a little late to be concerned about life.

I mean, you know,

partial birth abortion is included in that.

When the baby is born, well, what about up until it is born?

One Republican pollster in Alabama put it this way: if Jones were pro-life, he'd be up 10 points.

If Roy Moore wins today, it's not because Alabama voters like him, they might.

I think a lot of them are disgusted by him.

But here's what they don't like:

the press, the parties,

and abortion.

It's Tuesday, December 12th.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

I'm going to dramatically switch gears here

and

talk to you about a book that I've been reading.

As you know, if you listen to this program, I'm a big fan of Ray Kurzweil.

At the same time, he scares the living daylights out of me

because I don't hear a lot of talk about ethics.

I just talk, I hear a lot of talk about what can be done and what is coming.

And I read a lot of lately I've been reading a lot of science fiction and a lot of science.

And I am

very much into the future and what is coming and what life is going to be like for us in 10 years.

10 years, that's almost twice as long as it's been since 9-11.

It's going to creep up on us fast.

And 10 years from now, our lives, our health, our jobs,

possibly, hopefully, our politics are going to be completely different.

And it's very exciting, but it's also terrifying.

And it's only terrifying if you haven't thought of these things before

because they are coming, and you can't put the genie back in the bottle.

But

do we want it?

Should we go this direction?

How should we handle it when it does come?

Brett King is a futurist.

He is the CEO and founder of Breaking Banks and also a podcast host of Breaking Banks.

He has written a great book, Augmented, Life in the Smart Lane.

And I've been reading it for a while now and really kind of trying to digest it as we go.

And it has been a springboard for so many other books that I have been reading because of this book.

And I'm honored to have him on.

Brent, welcome.

Brett, welcome to the program.

It's great to be on.

Thanks for having me.

Sure.

So

I don't even know where to begin with you.

I really kind of want to

try to just introduce America to some of the thoughts that you put together in Augmented of what the world is going to be like

coming our way.

There's, you know, there is,

there's jobs, there's education, there's health.

And then we get into stuff like AI and robotics.

But let's just start with jobs, education, and health.

So

there's four disruptive themes I identified in the book.

Obviously, the first and most disruptive technology we're going to deal with over the next 10, 20 years is artificial intelligence.

But that's going to spur on a whole range of other changes in society.

So the first, you know, a notable impact is, you know, we'll be talking to computers.

We'll have computers embedded in the world around us that are collecting data and sensors and so forth.

And then that flows on to things like healthcare.

For example,

you may have seen in the news a Live Corps just got approval from the FDA to launch a device, a band that essentially attaches to the Apple Watch that can do sort of a full EKG, ECG monitoring of your heart rate over time.

But when you tie that with an artificial intelligence, they're now expecting within the next 18 months or two years, I'll be able to predict whether you're going to have a heart attack based on that data.

So this is where we see the marriage of sort of sensors,

sensors and artificial intelligence really changing the way we think about things like healthcare.

Yeah, you talk about

these sensors in a way that has made me want to wear my, you know, my Apple smartwatch a little bit more about

it's going to be able to detect

exactly what's happening in our body.

I mean, we would much rather go to the ingestibles you're talking about.

Like, you can swallow a computer that can read, you know, like you're a

diabetes sufferer.

You'll be able to swallow a computer in the future that will monitor

your blood work.

And so, look at your sugar levels.

And then, you know, it won't be long before we have an internal device or be able to dispense insulin,

regulate insulin in our body without having to inject it and things like that.

And

if you've got a complaint,

we can get you to swallow a camera now and ingest that instead of having invasive surgery.

I mean, there's a lot of stuff happening on the sensor stuff on the health front.

Are we entering a time

where it's possible to say disease goes away?

So

the biggest shift in respect to disease won't necessarily be be just diagnosis.

I think that

what we can do with an imaging AI right now, machine learning, is we can give

an algorithm 3,000, 5,000 medical images with diagnosis data, and it will be able to do a pretty good job of approximating the diagnosis that you would have got from your doctor.

So

diagnostic technology is going to increase

exponentially.

And essentially, we're going to get these computers doing the best diagnosis possible.

Yeah, talk a little bit.

Talk a little bit about the computer in New York.

This is kind of an offshoot of Watson.

Watson,

you know, could beat anybody at chess.

They had the idea of, wait a minute, what if we just put all of the medical information into it and all of the different cases and see if

it can diagnose cancer?

And it's far better than human doctors.

So right now, IBM Watson gets about a 96, 97% hit rate in terms of its diagnosis for specific types of cancer.

Now, when you compare that to the best oncologists in the U.S., who have 20 years of experience, they get it right about 50% of the time, which of course is why everyone tells you you should always get a second opinion.

So that's pretty impressive.

It's obviously fairly new tech.

But what would be really good is if we could eliminate cancer altogether.

And so what we're working on is technologies like gene editing.

And the two major streams of this is CRISPR and Talon, where essentially we can now sequence your DNA, but the future is actually modifying your DNA.

So if you've got a disease, a protein switch, that results in, say, leukemia, you'll be able to flick that switch to create antibodies instead of creating leukemia just by changing your genome.

So I don't know if it was yours, Brett.

I've been reading so much lately, but do you speak about telomeres in your book?

Yeah, so

telomere links is another element around longevity.

And there's a whole lot of new science coming out around longevity now, which is really interesting.

But the ability to insert telomerase, which is the

sort of the protein that leads to the,

at the end of the DNA, is these little

strands that sort of hold the DNA together, sort of like the aglets you have on your shoelace, and they fray over time.

Now, if we can restore them, then it's believed that we can extend life.

So, you know, this is there's a lot of work going into longevity with that.

Because that is, that is,

as those begin to fray, that's the aging process.

So, if we can

errors creep in, and that's how we age, exactly.

So,

you know, I'm reading your book, and half of it, I am

more

excited about the future and more convinced that, you know, you just have to just hold on to 2030, 2035, and the world's going to be different.

You're going to, I mean, anything that you're dealing with, we're going to be able to take care of.

That's kind of the

optimistic feeling that I get.

However, the other half of me,

you know, you look at, for instance, talk about the climber.

I don't remember his name, the mountain climber.

That.

Yeah, Dr.

Hugh Herr.

Yeah, tell this story.

So, Dr.

Hugh Herr, this is a really interesting one.

When he was 17, he lost both of his legs through frostbite in a climbing incident where he was trapped on Mount Wellington, I think it was, for a few days.

And so he was very inspired to

fix that problem.

So he went to Harvard and MIT to learn bio-medicine and robotics and he basically built himself new legs.

And today his friends joke that they're going to have to get amputations as well to keep up with him in terms of his ability to climb a mountain now because of his specialist

prosthetics that he's designed to climb the mountains.

But this does raise the ethical concern is once we get to the point where prosthetics are able to perform at or at a better level than our own human limbs, what do we do do when people start voluntarily having amputations to get prosthetics because they're going to get improved performance?

What do you think we do?

So obviously we have to have, you know, we have to start thinking about the ethics of things like artificial intelligence technology in a pretty structured manner.

We can't just let it happen as we have with the iPhone and the internet and so forth.

where we just let the the pure capitalist approach take.

We need an ethical structural approach to these technologies.

So there is some initiatives coming out like this, like DeepMind, the Google effort, they've created an ethics society to sort of put together or codify ethical standards.

But, you know, like it's hard to decide on ethics in our society.

You know, we don't agree on things, as you pointed out at the start of the show.

How do we codify ethics when as humans we can't necessarily agree on a code of ethics amongst ourselves?

I worry about this because

you also look at people like Vladimir Putin, who has recently come out and said,

whoever is the first in with AI controls the world.

I don't think Putin cares about

ethics

or at least the same kind of ethics.

No, I agree with you.

So I think there's a couple of concerning elements here.

Right now, we don't have obviously full AI.

There's sort of three phases of artificial intelligence.

Okay, hang on just a second.

Hang on.

I want to go there.

I have to take a break, and we'll come back.

I want to talk to Brett about education because we are not ready for the world that is right around the corner.

So, what do you do to educate yourself?

What should your kids be doing right now?

And what should they be looking into?

Also,

the ethics of AI and

robotics.

It is a strange,

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And we'll talk about that coming up in a second.

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So we are with Brett King, futurist, author of the book, Augmented, Life in the Smart Lane.

It is so well worth reading.

Please read this book.

You want to know what the future is and what to do and how to prepare for it.

Brett, we have about three minutes.

Give us, if you can, as much as you can on the three types of AI.

So we start out with right now, we have machine learning or deep learning, where machines can observe and watch human behavior and sort of learn to mimic that.

So for a self-driving car, as an example, or a diagnostic algorithm for medical.

Then we get to artificial general intelligence where you'll be having a conversation with your AI.

So think about Alexa or Siri on steroids, where you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between that and a human.

And

that's the Turing test point?

Yeah, that's exactly.

So, a machine that can pass the Turing test, fool us into thinking it's human.

And then we get the strong AI, probably around 2045, something around that time frame, where you have machines that are smarter than humans.

Now,

you have a chapter that I have read and listened to about four times,

and it is on the

robots and

artificial intelligence and why it's important to give robots emotions.

And in it, you say you give great reasons for robots to have emotions and AI to have emotions.

But now for the other more controversial reason, why robots need emotions, so they don't kill us all.

The concept behind some of the most innovative artificial general intelligence minds today, we need to ensure that robots like us and have empathy for mankind.

The three laws are not sufficient enough to protect us from the unknowable future of artificial intelligence.

Some, like Elon Musk and Stephen Hawking, believe we need to build very basic motivations as the foundation to future AI, one that enforces a basic love of humans and our planet or planets.

The problem, of course, is that any safeguards we are able to implement will always be able to be circumvented by any intelligence greater than our own.

Yeah,

you go on in that.

I'll save it for a second.

I would like you to talk about this

problem that we have that is possibly coming of artificial intelligence being greater than our own.

And as you say,

we will be compared to the fly on the plate in the kitchen.

We might know that's a food for us, but we have no idea about the rest of the world.

Glenn back.

You're listening to the Glenn Beck program.

Brett King.

He's a futurist from Australia.

He's the CEO and founder of Moven.

He's a podcast host, Breaking Banks, and author of Bank 4.0.

It's going to be released early next year.

The book that I have found him through is

Augmented, Life in the Fast Lane, or the Smart Lane.

And it is

a

it is a mind-bender if you want to know what's happening uh you know in the future and what you should be thinking about even all the way down to how we should start educating our kids what we prepare them for read augmented life in the smart lane um brett let's let's just start with um you know what i what i left with on

We have to start being nice to robots and AI, and we better start really learning that quickly because they're going to be smart enough to best us in anything we do.

Well, you know, be kind to robots is a good rule, I think.

But you know, when you hear Elon Musk, who incidentally, you know, despite all his criticism of AI and the threat to mankind, he's just announced his own AI initiative.

So maybe that was a bit of marketing.

But,

you know, it's not necessarily that machines are going to be

malevolent or benevolent.

The one thing we're learning is that artificial intelligence, they don't think like us as humans.

So when we attribute a super intelligence and the fact that it's going to take over the world like a T1000 Terminator,

we are thinking in human terms, but it's not necessary that machines are going to act like humans.

So I think that's the one saving grace here is that sufficiently advanced AIs may not really care about us that much.

They may have their own agenda,

which we have to cope with.

But that's again where I think empathy is important.

I think if they have empathy for their creator,

us,

I think that that will help us.

So I think building empathy and ethics into robotics is sort of key for a safety valve.

Well, I mean, you can already see the seeds planted in there's a robotic

brothel in Germany now.

And people like to go there and, you know, they'll have their way with the robotics.

And the wives, I guess, wait in the parking lot for the guys because, you know, it's not like really cheating and all this stuff.

And you think about

how these robots, some of these robots are going to be used and abused by people.

If it is AI, at some point, as Kurzweil says, in Age of Spiritual Machines, at some point it will say, Don't.

I'm hurt.

I'm lonely.

And then, you know, you do have the human emotion.

Well, you know, the other element of this, of course, is as these AIs get very, very good at understanding human behavior and learning to adapt to our concerns.

If you have a personal AI encoded in your smartphone, for example, you know,

it could become your best friend.

In fact, you know, people may fall in love with their AI

in their environment around them.

You know, I think that's because if you've got someone who reacts to you in a perfect way, responding to your your every need, then, you know, that's a great way to build a basis of a friendship on.

I mean, quite honestly, Brett, I mean,

they don't have to destroy us.

They have to get us to fall in love with them

and not procreate.

I mean, why would, I've thought about this for a long time, if I could

come home and it's the perfect woman who has

every trait that I love, physically, mentally, everything else, I don't have to hear about their day.

They only care about me.

They're thinking what I'm thinking.

They're adding something to the conversation.

It's mind-blowing sex.

And if I decide I can change the way she looks or I can change, I can change anything.

I want to try something new.

Why would you ever go on a date?

This may be the resurgence of humanity as well.

I think we'll have a

approach where we get totally into this technology.

It infuses in society and people get carried away with it.

But there may be an authenticity to the human experience that we miss after a time.

And I think that's probably where, as humans, we'll need to differentiate.

We'll have to differentiate in our very humanity.

So, you talked about employment and education.

If you want to be relevant in that future, you're going to have to be extremely adaptable.

But I think the skills that will come to the fore are those that are really human,

that people cater for that real human contact, that human touch, that really authentic humanity.

Because of your book, I talked to my 13-year-old son,

who is just really an empathetic kid

and just loves people and loves children.

And I said, you know, have you ever thought about going into nursing and being a nurse practitioner?

And we talked about, you know, having your own robotics that you would be watching over several patients, but you would be the one that would be able to come in and kind of telepresence and be able to be there for people and have the actual person-to-person experience.

Nursing is not going to be like it is today.

Well, you know, you look at how AI is going to impact jobs.

Right now,

the biggest impact we see,

particularly in markets like the U.S.

and even China, is process where humans are involved in process, ticking the box,

following a checklist,

these sorts of things, accountants, lawyers,

bankers, bank tellers.

But the thing where we see a lot of demand coming is those human elements, the creative elements, design, and counseling.

We think counseling and psychology and those sort of elements, particularly as the role of work in society shifts and we become less defined by what we do and more defined by who we are, you know, there's going to be a huge demand for those sort of human elements of

behavioral psychology and counseling.

So, you know, it's really easy to say,

I'll never do this.

I'll never, I'll never upgrade.

I'll never augment.

We'll all augment.

Especially you describe how super intelligence, artificial superintelligence,

will be so far ahead of us that we won't even be able to understand it.

That,

you know, and I look at if I'm an augmented human, I've augmented my brain and I'm connected to the you know Borg or whatever it would be

I

I am looking at the world differently I have access to knowledge and I'm talking to a human non-augmented they don't they can't even follow and you describe it as a fly on a plate in the kitchen

Well, you know, so, you know, Kurzweil and Musk, of course, say that for us to keep up with AI, we're going to have to augment our intelligence.

Now, this

sounds pretty far-fetched, putting neural implants in so we can do a Google search in our head, for example.

But that's only one step away from where we are today, where we pick up the phone and

we will ask Google or Alexa to search on information.

My kids will never have to pick an encyclopedia Britannica off the wall to learn about, I don't know, how many moons is around Jupiter.

They can just ask their computer.

So we've already augmented our intelligence.

But this is, you know, when we talk about things like the robotic prosthesis,

you know, would you, if you have, you know,

short-sightedness or a problem with your vision,

would you be prepared to wear an implant that could give you 20-20 or better vision?

Well, we already wear spectacles, so we already have been augmenting our vision for centuries.

I will tell you, Brett, that as I read your book,

I've always said I won't augment.

I will not put a chip.

However, when you really think about it, and if somebody came to me and said glenn i can give you photographic memory um i can give you access to everything you just implant this in just based on what i do for a living it would give me such an advantage that i would really be hard pressed not to do it uh because i would know also if if i don't do it the other guys are going to do it and there's no way i'll be able to compete I mean, it's going to be a really tough choice.

And this is where science fiction actually informs us about some of these things because, you know, we've seen sci-fi writers write about this and talk about the fact that you've got natural humans versus augmented humans and the battle between these two ethically.

And I think that that's probably a pretty real thing that we're going to have to deal with.

Of course, some of it's a little bit more simple.

For example,

in respect to repairing damage that you might have to your body,

prosthesis is there, but we're working on 3D printed organs, so bioprinted kidneys and hearts and things like that.

So if you develop a heart disease in the future, we may be able to 3D print you a new heart using your own stem cells so that it doesn't get, you don't need any rejection medicine anymore.

And you could get a new heart and that could extend your life by 20 or 30 years.

Who wouldn't do that?

Pratt, I have a daughter with cerebral palsy.

She had strokes at birth.

And we have talked about this a lot.

And I know now

exoskeletons are being developed that would give her use of her full use of her of her arm and her hand

and is there a time in her lifetime she's 29 now

where

she would have the fog

of

the way she thinks lifted

certainly I think within the next 20 to 30 years that's a that's a real possibility I think we are going to with both gene therapy and with augmentation technologies, I think the word disability will disappear from our vernacular.

Are you concerned at all about,

especially when it comes to gene manipulation,

the creation of

Iceland

has now been the only place that has a zero birth rate of Down syndrome.

And it's because of abortion and early detection.

I don't know if that's a good thing.

I mean, you know, I just don't think it's a good thing.

I don't know if it's a good thing.

I've met a lot of people with Down syndrome, and I quite honestly think when I'm with them, I think, and excuse the use of this word, but it's appropriate for us, we're the retarded ones, not them.

They have a connection to humanity.

Are you worried at all

of this world that we're going into that can just make everybody perfect?

Designer babies.

You know, we've heard talk about it, you know, in vitro manipulation of DNA and so forth.

You know, it's obviously there's a huge ethical minefield in terms of where do you stop, where do you start.

Now, if there's a congenital disease that's going to debilitate, you know, that child for the rest of its life and you can fix it, then why wouldn't you?

But at the same time, what if I was able to change your hair color or your skin color or your muscle tone

and get you to be more athletic or more mathematically inclined.

You know, and this is where it's a slippery slope.

Having said that, I think what history teaches us is,

and this is the inevitability of this and why I choose to be optimistic, is with all of these technologies and things we think about, you know, if you look back to the start of the Industrial Revolution, we don't have the self-control to limit humanity's experimentation with these things generally.

We rush forward and embrace this and worry about the complications later.

Okay, so I've only got about a minute and I'd love to have you back to talk about banks and everything else.

That's a new book.

And of course, you're...

We didn't get to Bitcoin yet.

I know we didn't.

And I'm out of time, but I got to ask you about Bitcoin.

Where do you see that?

So it is no longer a currency.

It's become a crypto asset.

It's got a lot of way to grow.

I mean, if you look at the U.S.

bond market, $31 trillion, the gold market, you know, $8 trillion.

You know, this total cryptocurrency market right now is only about $500 billion.

So I think it's still got a long, long way to go.

But don't think of it as a currency.

Think of it as an alternative asset class that's sort of replacing commodities like oil, which are no longer got the returns they used to have.

And what about things like Litecoin or Ethereum?

Is that a currency?

Well, so, you know, Ethereum probably has potential to be a currency, and there are alternatives to Bitcoin, like forks that have occurred, like Bitcoin Cash, that could become on mass currency use.

I think we'll start to see different methods of value exchange emerge, because we live in a digital world where commerce is digital these days, and the U.S.

dollar has no strategic advantage in that digital landscape.

Is there a way that countries are going to say,

we've got to control this, and they'll come out with their own cryptocurrency?

Yeah, absolutely.

China's is working on that.

They have their own blockchain.

They will launch their own cryptocurrency as a competitor to try and sort of become the first digital-backed currency.

But then Japan and Venezuela and other markets are starting to adopt Bitcoin as official currencies.

So it could go either way, to be honest.

All right.

Brett King, futurist, founder of

Moven and author of several books.

Bank 4.0 comes out soon.

We've been talking to him about augmented life in the smart lane.

Thank you so much, Brett.

I appreciate it.

Thanks, Brett, for sure.

You got to read that book.

It's a great book.

It's intense, man.

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Truth.

Glenn back.

I have a feeling this Russia investigation is going to end up poorly.

I think for us.

For us.

At this point, the DOJ and the FBI need to be investigating themselves

along with the case of Russia.

Came out yesterday on Meet the Press that the special counsel was busy trying to piece together what happened inside the White House after senior officials were told that Mike Flynn was susceptible to blackmail.

Okay, sounds good.

But why is Mueller still bogged down over that?

Hand that off and get busy investigating, I don't know, the largest hostile intelligence operation conducted in United States history.

You know, the little thing when Russia attempted to interfere with the election and seemed to be influencing and worming its way into both parties.

You know, the crime you're supposed to be concentrating on.

The last time I checked, the election happened months before Trump and the transition period.

If you see obstruction of justice there, great.

Well, I mean, not great, but get on that and take it on.

But back to the campaign in Russia.

We still don't know how a company like Fusion GPS became so influential in this investigation.

Fusion GPS, a company that was employed by the Russians, the Clinton campaign, the DNC,

does it sound like the information you'd get from them might be just a little biased?

Apparently, the knowledge

was either lost on the FBI and DOJ or they didn't care.

Because we now know that the FBI was trying to pay to have Fusion GPS, the operative, continue his work.

When the House Intelligence Committee began pushing Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein to answer some of these things,

the

pushback began.

Now, what possible motive would he have to stonewall Congress?

Well, it came out last week that senior DOJ official Bruce Orr was demoted after it found out that he had secret meetings with the head of Fusion GPS.

Now, that alone sounds bad, but that was so last week.

Yesterday, Fox reported that it was not only Orr holding secret meetings with Fusion GPS, but his wife was also working for them.

She was employed by Fusion GPS

while the Trump dossier was being compiled.

Before working at Fusion GPS, she worked at a Washington think tank where her specialty was described as a Russia expert.

Want to take any guess where Orr's office is at the DOJ or was?

lo and behold just a few doors down from the same deputy attorney general now whether something nefarious happened here or not you could very easily make the case that this is the reason the outlandish trump dossier was used to possibly get FISA warrants to spy on a presidential candidate You could also make the case that the bias is so thick that it's also the reason why a special counsel seems so hell-bent on proving obstruction of justice rather than finding out who was involved in possibly the worst foreign intelligence attack in our history.

Is the FBI dirty?

Is the DOJ dirty?

They need to get their house in order.

We need to be able to trust someone.

Then I don't care if you put Clinton and Trump in jail if they belong there.

I just want to know the truth.

It's getting embarrassing.

Someone needs to step up and figure out how we're so easily hacked and infiltrated by the Russians.

I don't care if it's Joe Friday or Perry Mason or Jim Frickin' Rockford.

We need outside investigators.

And time is running out because we're approaching the midterm election.

It's Tuesday, December 12th.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

All right, there are three cases that really bother me.

Three cases that

I don't even understand.

Remember the woman who was part of the group?

There were four or five people.

They were all adults.

They kidnapped this white handicapped kid, mentally handicapped, and they gagged him, bound him, beat him, tortured him for four days.

He finally gets away, and he's so freaked out.

Well, they had put all of this on Facebook.

One of the girls, the first one to go to trial, she's just been given community service.

Are you kidding me?

How is the...

What is the judge thinking?

What is the jury thinking?

How is this possible?

The other case in San Francisco.

What was the DA thinking

of not charging somebody who is here illegally,

quote, finds a gun, it goes off, he kills a woman.

Now, it was a ricochet, so it's not murder.

How was manslaughter not the thing he was charged with

how did the jury say not guilty

and then over the weekend i don't know if you saw this brutal brutal tape of police coming after a guy he's laying down in the hallway he's clearly drunk or drugged or something

and uh the police you know have their flak jackets on and they've got an ar trained on him and the the the vest cam shows this guy, and they're just barking orders at him.

Put your hands up, don't move.

Now put your hands up, get on your hands and knees, and crawl.

How can I do both of those?

And by the way, I'm drunk.

And if you make a mistake, we're going to shoot you and kill you.

It is a horrific scene.

I am usually not somebody who wants to second-guess the police, but this one I just don't understand.

We reached out to Norm Stamper.

He is the author of the book, To Protect and Serve, How to Fix America's Police.

He was a police officer for 34 years, the first 28 in San Diego, and the last six, he was the chief of police in Seattle.

Norm, how are you, sir?

I'm doing very well, Glenn.

Thank you.

So where do you normally stand on the police?

I mean,

I know that you're very disillusioned with

the police, but you've ⁇ the thing that, the reason why I ask, I'm from Seattle, and I see, you know, a chief of police from Seattle, and

I wonder what that even means anymore, because Seattle has gone so far off the rails.

Well, and of course, Seattle was one of the cities that was investigated by the Department of Justice

and is now in the middle of a series of reforms that seem to be taking quite well.

Okay.

So

you were a police officer, and you said you got into it because you really wanted to do the right thing.

And then what happened?

Well, that lasted about five minutes.

I got sucked into the culture of policing and

from the very beginning had an enormous amount of respect for police officers who do their jobs and do them well, oftentimes heroically.

And

it's painful to see what we saw coming out of Mesa, Arizona, this last incident that you're talking about.

That was a wonderful example of a police officer who needed to de-escalate a situation, but did exactly the opposite to tragic outcomes.

He said his attorney argued in front of court, and the jury bought it, that he was following procedure, and that's exactly he followed his training to the letter.

Well, here's the problem.

When looking at these individual cases, you can look at LaQuan McDonald in Chicago.

You can look at Tamir Rice in Cleveland, 12-year-old boy.

You can look at Walter Scott running away from Officer Michael Slager in North Charleston, South Carolina.

In each of these cases, and in too many other cases, those shootings were predictable

for a reason I'll explain in just a second, and also utterly preventable.

Nobody needed to die on those days.

Predictable Predictable because officers generally are doing what they've been taught to do.

I believe that in the Mesa, Arizona case, that was a distortion of what the officers have been trained to do, but I don't know that.

What I do know is a lot of the training takes place in the locker room or in the front seat of a police car.

And it really gets to the culture of policing, not the formal structure, not what's being taught in the academy, but rather what is being described as

reality and the best response to given situations in the real world.

So you've got a good number of senior officers who are,

dare I say, paranoid, who are so frightened that they can't see straight.

Under the influence of fear, we misperceive situations, we misjudge situations, and the consequences can be horrific.

So, Norm, if I can be the case in Maris.

If I'm a cop,

I'm listening to you right now going, damn right I'm nervous.

I have every reason to be nervous.

Every time I walk up to a car, I don't know if somebody's going to shoot me.

I'm walking into things I don't know every single day, and people are becoming more and more hostile towards us.

I think you're absolutely right.

And what that argues for is the kind of education and training, good selection process in the first place, but the kind of education and training that equips officers to deal with that reality.

We understand that many of the people you're going to interact with as a police officer are not at their best.

We understand that there are some radically evil people out there who just

soon shoot you as look at you.

So if that represents the reality, how are we acculturating and training our police officers so that they can handle confidently and maturely these kinds of situations?

What we saw in that last incident was a police officer who was utterly out of control.

His voice, his shouts on the tape, on the video, were almost as loud as the five shots that he fired that ended that young innocent man's life.

So I think it's just vital that we recognize the real world and we provide the kind of education and training that really equips police officers psychologically

as well as cognitively to handle these situations.

How do we as a

public,

how do we judge these things?

Because

I never want to second guess the cops unless it's pretty blatant.

I thought this was pretty blatant.

Unless it's pretty blatant, because I'm not in that situation.

And, you know, to expect perfect people to behave exactly like

you would behave sitting on your couch

you know is is is not reasonable

so how do we judge these

i i i think uh we judge these things through our own filter of of education and awareness so that we really understand better uh lethal force situations uh that confront police officers.

I mean, let's be real about this,

as you're suggesting we do, and as recognized that sudden violent death is an occupational hazard for police officers.

How do we minimize the risk?

How do we equip, train, weaponize our police officers so that they are as safe as they can possibly be given those circumstances?

But we do them no service when we help create an era of paranoia, when we when we cause

police officers to develop a frame of mind, and this officer tragically had that frame of mind.

He had written

engraved on the barrel of his AR-15, you're screwed.

And I cleaned that up for you and your audience.

That's an officer who's got a mentality that has no place in police work.

The best cops, I've heard one say this recently, My philosophy is every shift for the rest of my career, I go out there with this truth in mind.

Nobody dies tonight.

Nobody dies on my shift.

That means me.

I mean, I want to make it home to my family.

I'm interested in self-preservation, as is every other

non-suicidal human being.

But I also am going to put at the top of my priorities the protection and preservation of human life.

And I'm going to get really good

at diffusing and de-escalating situations.

I'm also going to be prepared, should it come to it, to pull the trigger of my gun if I have to.

Tartan Norm Stamper, author of To Protect and to Serve, How to Fix America's Police.

Norm, it seems to me that there's education that really needs to come on both sides of the equation: how we deal with police and understanding the situations they're in.

It seems like there's a lot of

people who

have issues understanding that, you know,

these interactions can get messy and can,

I think, put people on edge.

And by being respectful, by handling these situations as well as possible

from the perspective of someone who's being pulled over or is in one of these situations,

would go a long way to solve at least some of these problems, though not in this particular case.

I do agree with that.

I think that there are citizen academies being run by many jurisdictions across the country.

There are efforts to achieve a genuine partnership between community and police so that citizens are actually involved in policymaking and program development, crisis management.

This is my agenda, by the way,

creating this genuine partnership so that citizens are being informed about police policies and practices and the kinds of real-world situations that our officers confront.

The more understanding, the more likely it is that we will see responsible behavior, frankly, on both sides of the equation.

Yeah, officer that you used to have a long time ago that knew the community and the community knew him.

You know, I lived in New York for a while.

Those people aren't even, they're nowhere near Manhattan

and they're not in the community.

And it just changes.

It just changes things when the community is not connected and the police officer is not connected to the community.

Thank you so much.

Appreciate it, Norm.

You bet.

My pleasure.

Norm Samford wrote the book, To Protect and Deserved, How to Fix America's Police, also Breaking Rank, a Top Cop's Expose of the Dark Side of American Policing.

And we've talked about this before.

You have to have both of these things.

You have to make sure the good cops get credit, and you have to make sure the bad cops get punished for what they do wrong.

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glenn back

okay

so

netflix released its uh year-end report It revealed some concerning streaming habits from some people.

There is a user in the United Kingdom who

watched the movie, the B-movie, 357 times last year.

There is somebody who watched the curse of the black pearl

every day for an entire year.

People watching the same movie, it is not unusual for people to watch the same movie 300 times a year.

That is unusual.

I'm sorry to say that's weird.

There are a group of users that are watching the original Christmas from Netflix.

They've been watching it every day for the last three weeks.

Someone in Antarctica is watching Shameless.

Mexico has the most members who are logged in to stream content on Netflix every single day.

And Netflix

watchers have watched more than 140 million hours per day

with the

most popular day of viewing January 1.

I love the story from Netflix because they had this tweet that came out where they said, you know, someone's watching some Christmas movie.

There's been 53 people who have watched it every day for the last 18 days.

And their comment was, who hurt you?

Which I said that was very funny.

It's also a little creepy.

There's something creepy.

They can watch everything.

Like, they were calling out individual subscribers on twitter

and her you know in a fun way harassing them for their viewing habits i know i love the story but it makes me feel a little creepy i want to get into that tomorrow because they have the list of the most popular and uh i'm not i'm not in any of them

glenn back

This is the Glenn back program.

No, I haven't.

We're just talking about Star Wars.

Stu's going Thursday.

I'm taking the whole family, and I couldn't get tickets until Monday, so I can't see until Monday.

When are you seeing it?

We're going to wait till our boys get back from college, and so probably Monday, I would think.

Yeah, I got to go the first night because as soon as

you lose access to the internet.

Oh, I know.

Because everyone's going to be posting things and it's going to get ruined.

I had to shut down, you know, not go into certain sites and things because

it was everywhere.

You know, people who saw the initial

preview in Hollywood, they were all tweeting and they were all saying, oh my gosh, it's so great and so unexpected.

And then I just stopped.

Yeah.

Stop reading.

I don't want to know.

I don't want somebody to go, oh, you're your father.

He is the father.

You're going to find out.

I don't want to know any of it.

These dead people.

You don't want that to happen for you all.

I don't.

You know, Rafe and I have been going through all of the theories on, you know, who's the father, who's the mom, all that stuff.

And just yesterday, somebody came out and said, okay, I think I've got it.

I haven't seen the movie, but I think I have it.

And I said, no, no, no, I don't want to watch it.

I don't want to watch it.

Yeah, I don't want the predictions.

I don't.

I'm going to the movie to enjoy the freaking movie.

So when I'll watch the movie, and you know what they're going to do with the movie?

Tell me what happens.

That's the whole point of it.

And I also don't want to hear it's, oh, it's the best one yet.

Because then you go in and you're expecting it to be really great and you're like, ah.

If you go in and you're like, it's just a movie.

Because how many times have we been let down by the Star Wars franchise?

Say three.

I would say four.

Say four.

To me, four.

Return of the Jedi is not good.

I love it.

I love Return of the Jedi.

I unequivocally love the first three.

No, I know you don't.

No, I don't think

the Ewoks were.

The Ewoks, yes, a little taint, but it's not.

It wasn't Jar Jar Banks' level.

No, it was not.

No, it was not.

Or the first

actor who was Anakin.

The first three were just abysmal.

I don't even know if I've seen.

I don't even know if I've seen episode three, at least all the way through.

What, really?

No.

That's the best of the first three.

I just agree.

I think the Attack gave us three.

I think Attack of the Clones is the best of the first three.

Because unlike the other movies, there is a 54-minute movie inside of that movie that's actually pretty good.

Which one?

In Attack of the Clones, if you just delete about 40 minutes out of it, there's a good 54-minute movie in there.

The problem is, there's also 40, 50 minutes of really terrible movie.

So you get kind of like really, it'll get a little good and a little bad.

Where the other two prequels were actually, I thought, generally speaking, just bad.

You know, and again, Star Wars bad.

I still like them and I could still watch them, you know, but they're just.

So is this the one?

Because all I remember is,

what's his name?

They go to the clone world and then they're labor, laser fighting on top of the deal and it's raining.

Is that the one?

You've described all Star Wars movies.

I know.

But that's the only part of that I really remember.

I don't remember.

Like in the trailer this time, it says, I've seen this before and I wasn't afraid.

And you saw the hand come up out of the lava.

Have you seen the trailer for this yet?

Is that the scene from

Vader or coming out?

Is that the scene from the third?

That's the first scene you're talking about, actually.

I don't think I've seen that trailer.

I don't remember it at least.

It's a big deal, deal, right?

I mean, you could still get tickets at some theaters.

It's

impossible.

This is the last one

of the Luke and Leia and all that, right?

We don't know.

I mean, it's entitled The Last Jedi, but we don't know if it's the same.

I don't know if it's said that.

No, but I think this is because this is the ninth, right?

No, it's the eighth.

Yeah, this is eighth.

Yeah, so this is eighth.

You're thinking because Rogue One was a spin-off that came off last year.

Yeah.

So that was.

Because I thought that he had said that he had written nine.

That was the original.

That's what they always said when I was a little kid.

I remember thinking there was going to be nine of them.

In retrospect, I don't believe.

No, I kind of don't either.

That's interesting.

I don't know if he ever said it.

I think he wrote the first six.

I think he had a pretty good idea of the first three.

That's it.

The middle or whatever they are.

The middle three.

The four, five, and six.

Originals.

How do you watch?

You're bringing your kids or your grandkids.

How do you watch?

Do you start at three or do you start at one?

It's funny.

Pat and I, when we were doing the Pat and Stew show, we had someone who worked here who had never seen any of the movies.

He's in his 30s.

And we were like, well,

he should be destroyed.

This is interesting.

We should make you watch them.

We started harassed him.

Yes, we did.

To watch him chronologically instead of the one.

What good?

Am I going to be sued for that?

Probably.

Probably.

So instead of watching it like with the old school Star Wars,

Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi first, we had him watch the prequels first.

So he watched the first, the Phantom Menace as the first movie, because that's, in their world, the chronological order of these movies.

He didn't even get to number two.

He just gave up.

He watched the first one.

I was like, why?

That's how bad it is.

Why do people like this series?

Was essentially his.

That's how bad Phantom Menace is.

Oh, it's horrible.

If you start a New Hope and

you have to go to the first three, and then you have a friend summarize the first two.

You start with the middle three.

You have a friend that summarizes the first two.

You watch the 55 minutes that's good in episode three.

Then you can take off from there.

One of the biggest problems in the whole series is the selection of actors.

I don't know why they thought these were the best actors.

But the guy, the little kid who played Anakin was terrible.

And the guy, the adult who played Anakin

is terrible.

The adult that played Luke is pretty crappy, too.

I mean, you watch that series back.

Mark Hamill is not good enough.

Let's try Leia.

Lawrence Olivier in comparison.

Let's try Leo.

Let's try Leia, who halfway through the first movie all of a sudden is no longer English.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That is true.

He's true.

You will not.

You will not terrify me.

Yeah, so what's going on?

I'm in a garbage dump.

Who would have seen this one coming?

It's like, what the?

No, it's fair.

It's funny because you go back to...

It was called overdub.

You could have overdubbed those scenes where you were a different person.

They didn't have that technology back then, Brian.

I mean, those movies are really fun, and I love them.

There's that retro sort of feel to them.

And there's a part close to my heart, but like you watch some of the late saber battles, and they're just...

They're just not good.

And you go back to the prequels, and some of those action scenes are actually really amazing.

The movies themselves are not good.

Right.

The action scenes, though, in the prequels are almost enough to carry the movie, but not quite.

Yes,

but they're that good that they can almost make up for the Jar Jar Bink stuff and all the rest.

Yeah, for the Tack of the Clones, which is the second one, you go through and like there's just the scenes of them going through the planet that's the city.

What's that one calling?

Pat, you might know.

Pat's wearing a Star Wars Christmas.

Yeah.

Pat is wearing a

Star Wars Christmas shirt.

It says in green with Yoda on it.

An elf, I am not.

Yes.

Yes.

No.

Yes.

No.

But you can get through.

You're right.

Like the action sequences in those first ones are pretty amazing.

It's just the rest of it.

It's just pointless.

It's like you're just like, they were like, what if we made C-SPAN into a Star Wars movie?

We all just kind of sat around a Senate and just deliberated bills and legislation.

How did George Lucas

How did he honestly stumble across this story?

I mean, it is such a great question a great question because he is horrible.

He's not good.

He's horrible.

Other than this, and you can give him

the Harrison Ford thing with Indiana Jones.

So he's got those two things that are absolute classics.

But everything else,

Howard the Duck and all the rest of that stuff.

No, he also did American Graffiti,

which got him started in the first time.

That was Happy Days.

That started Happy Days.

So, I mean, he, you know, he had

something in him, but he lost it.

Yeah.

Quickly.

He lost it.

And intermittently.

I mean, it's like, whoa, whoa, where is that one coming from?

Yeah, very strange.

All right.

Pat, couple questions.

First, Roy Moore, who's going to win tonight?

Roy Moore.

I think really.

Landslide, close.

I think it's fairly close, but I think he wins fairly comfortably, four or five points.

Yeah, I think he had five or six points by saying.

Yeah.

And it's not because

conservatives or republicans are excusing sexual harassment first of all many of them don't believe the charges secondly uh the abortion thing supersedes any sexual harassment that may have occurred i think if it was

i think if it was rape today

if you know he was charged with you know hey he just last week he was you know with this girl or you know a year ago he was with this girl 40 years ago you don't know who to trust right and he might have just dated a few young people

So

you don't know in comparison to a guy who says, yes, I'll kill a baby in the womb tomorrow.

That's a, you know, that's a

restrictions on a woman's right to choose.

Right.

Okay.

Once the baby is born, then I'm pro-life Democrats.

Well, it's still.

Do you agree?

I think it was Frank Luntz who had this point.

Do you agree if Doug Jones, the Democrat, were a pro-life Democrat that he'd be winning by the way?

I think so, yeah.

I do too.

I think so.

Probably true.

I mean, because, you know, some of those red states will elect some Democrats when it comes to the Senate.

Usually they'll go red for the presidency, but they'll.

Or maybe an occasional governor.

Yep, governors.

Yep.

It does happen.

So I think you're right.

But when you're that big

an abortion advocate, there's no way you can win.

You're not going to win.

I can't imagine.

I mean, look, and this is the other thing we have to point out.

Donald Trump

won Alabama, I think, by 28 points.

So the fact that we're even having this discussion shows how weak of a candidate Roy Moore is.

Like him or not, the bottom line is this should not be hard.

Yeah.

This should be a blowout.

Look at the other two, Mo Brooks or Luther Strange.

I'm not a strange guy.

I mean, maybe a strange guy, but I'm not a Luther Strange guy.

But, I mean, or Mo Brooks.

Either one of them would be winning by 20 points right now.

Yes.

I mean, it would not be.

Yes.

So I don't know.

Alabama wanted Roy Moore as the candidate.

I think they should have picked Mo Brooks myself.

But it's up to them.

But it's up to them.

It's up to them.

People are like, well, why are you commenting on it?

It's up to them.

Well, I mean, that's our job.

I don't know what to tell you.

This is why you come come to the frequent show.

Go back to Yoda talk.

Yeah, I know.

We're happy with that.

One last question, Pat.

What is on your mind today?

Larry King, for one.

What?

Did you?

Yeah, I see.

This is one of the more outrageous allegations, not the most severe, because there have been accusations of really bad assault and rape.

But this is one of the weirder things where he's taking a photograph with a woman and he slides his hand down her backless dress inside her dress into her butt crack and leaves three fingers there

while they're taking a photo for 10 seconds she said what okay

a couple of things couple of things couple of things

I mean how do you not say anything for one thing well let's look at it the whole spectrum here I can't believe any guy would do that.

I mean, that goes beyond, that's craziness.

I'm going to leave my fingers in your butt crack for the full hour.

That's also something to say whether he has thin hands or she was wearing a dress that was too big or that was some weird.

Weird skills.

You're dealing with the skeletal remains of Larry Parker.

Right.

Okay, so still.

That's on that's on him.

On her,

how did you stay there for three seconds?

I don't know.

It's 10 seconds.

She said eight to 10 seconds while the photo was being taken.

That's nuts.

You know, you think of any of my

wives and this happening, he'd get an elbow in the face.

Yeah.

This happened in 2005.

My wife would have gone.

Oh, no.

Go back crap crazy.

Oh, yeah.

You can't tell me you don't know what to do.

You pull his hand out of your dress, right?

I mean, especially Larry King.

She didn't even work for the guy.

In 2005?

Yeah.

He was 131 years old in 2005.

I mean, he was Skeletor.

Yeah.

Unless you thought he had some sort of mystical magic powers that Skeletor the cartoon has, you pull his hand out.

Yeah, that doesn't make any sense to me.

That's really bad.

He should have pulled back a bloody stump, is what should have happened.

You keep a blender and

buy your dress.

Larry King comes.

Thanks, Pat.

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Glenn back.

Glenn back.

Good sentence.

You just get to a point where you're like,

you just kind of mumble out noises.

That's the point you're at now, which I understand.

It's defensible.

Did you see the tweet

from Trump today?

I did.

There was quite an exchange that happened on the Twitters today.

The Twitters.

So Senator Kirsten Gillibrand from New York

basically came out and said Trump should step down because of all of his accusers.

They've been kind of out in the media again the last couple of days.

And so Trump tweets today,

lightweight Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, a total flunky for Chuck Schumer.

Oh my gosh.

Stop it.

Well, I mean, that part is definitely true.

He's the president.

I know.

And someone who would come to my office

begging for campaign contributions, for whatever reason, begging is in quotes.

I feel like he just

a failure.

He came begging to me for whatever.

He does that every reason.

There's no reason to put that word in quotes.

But anyway, begging for campaign contributions not so long ago and would do anything for them is now in the ring fighting against Trump, very disloyal to Bill and Crooked.

Used.

I don't know what a lot of that means, but I would like to know what it means

she was willing to do anything.

Right.

So is that in quotes?

That one's not.

It's in parentheses.

That one's in parentheses.

So the idea being potentially

people are accusing her, him of saying that she would be offering sexual favors, which is not what he's necessarily saying, although you could take it that way.

Elizabeth Warren responded.

You should be smart enough to know it's going to be looked at that way.

Yeah, I guess.

Elizabeth Warden responds, are you trying to bully, intimidate, and slut-shame Senator Gillibrand?

Wait, but slut-shame would insinuate that she's doing something promiscuous and being criticized for it.

Is that what Elizabeth Warren is saying?

I don't think anyone understands the language anymore.

It is miss, it's like a blender of accusations.

Me smoke em wum-pum.

That's I don't know what to say.

Okay, all right, okay.

That doesn't make any sense.

Glenn, back.