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Love Courage Truth Glenn Back What would you do if you ran Uber?

How would you handle the news that hackers got the personal information on 57 million customers and employees?

What would you do if you were an investor in the company and you discovered that managers hid that breach from the public,

including those people who had their information stolen, customers, employees?

Think about that a moment.

If you ran the place,

how would you handle that?

How would you have handled it

before

when you just found out about the hack?

How would you handle it now after you found out that people tried to cover it up?

Hi there, it's Doc Thompson.

I'm in for Glenn today.

There is a specific reason why I'm asking you how you would handle it.

And I'm going to open up the phone lines in a couple of minutes.

888-727-BEC.

I'll also check out some of the tweets you send to the program.

It's at Doc Thompson Show.

But there's a specific reason.

I really want to get your thoughts on this.

Challenge yourself for a moment.

What would you do if you ran Uber?

Now, you're probably thinking to yourself, well, I wouldn't have let it get to this point.

Let me explain what happened.

Let me give you the details.

And I challenge you to challenge yourself and come up with an answer in your own head.

Maybe share it with somebody that's next to you right now.

Discuss it with them.

And there's a reason I'm asking

that I'll get to in a moment.

Let me give you the details.

More than a year ago, hackers got access to Uber's database.

And they stole the personal information of about 50 million Uber users.

If you've used Uber,

it may have been you.

Name, email addresses, phone numbers, this is what they say they got access to.

50 million users.

And they got personal information of about 7 million Uber drivers.

That includes about 600,000 driver's licenses.

So if you're a driver, you may have gotten your information that way, including your driver's license and number.

Now, they claim that no social security numbers were breached.

No credit cards were breached.

They didn't get that information, but come on.

Come on.

They got all that other stuff.

Can we really believe them knowing that for a year they didn't tell anyone about this, even the people affected?

Isn't that a moral breakdown, if not a legal breakdown?

I would think so.

Is it right they wouldn't tell the people affected by it?

Now, I know why.

They're trying to protect the company, and I can respect that on a certain level.

But don't you care about your customers?

I'm not blaming you for the breach.

There could have been problems.

Maybe you did everything you could through no fault of your own.

There was no failure of security, but they got the information.

Not blaming you for that.

I'm blaming you for the cover-up and why you didn't share it.

I understand protecting the company.

What would you do?

If you were an investor right now in that company,

because as an investor,

it's your company you run that company you own it yeah there's a managers ceos

cfos different

you know people that run it on a daily basis but you own the company ultimately the buck stops with you right and the other investors what would you do if you ran the company uber even said they had a legal obligation to report the hack to regulators and to the drivers whose information was stolen

but they didn't they didn't do it

In fact, when this breach happened, Uber was at the time negotiating with federal regulators

about other

privacy violations.

So

they knew of this.

It was on their front burner.

This is what they were dealing with.

And then suddenly the breach happens and they start covering it up.

Uber paid other hackers to delete the data and keep the breach quiet just to cover it up.

What would you do

now,

knowing that if you were an investor?

The new CEO, Dara,

I'm pretty sure that's how you pronounce her name, she said, none of this should have happened and I will not make excuses for it.

We are changing the way we do business.

Good.

I'd like some details, but good, good.

She said, at the time of the incident, we took immediate steps to secure the data and shut down for further unauthorized access.

Good, good,

good, that sounds great,

but

what specifically are we going to do moving forward?

And who will be punished?

See, as an investor, if I owned, even in part, that company,

I would want people held accountable if there were things done wrong.

Obviously, the cover-up, that was wrong.

I would want specific, real

examples.

I want a definitive plan of what you're going to do moving forward to make sure that doesn't happen again, right?

Is that what you would want?

Wouldn't you want people to be held accountable and you want to know specifically

what will change in the future?

That's what I would want too.

The reason I ask that is because

you may not be an owner of Uber.

You may not own stock,

but you do own

the Veterans Administration.

You and I own it.

We're American citizens.

We have a contractual and moral obligation to do what we said we would do, and that is to care for veterans.

And I bring that up because the Veterans Administration has failed far more and continues to fail far more

than Uber ever has.

The Veterans Administration exposed millions of veterans' information

repeatedly, over and over again over the last 15 years or so.

They have done virtually what Uber did.

Again, whether they were hacked, the information, one point there was

a database stolen.

Over and over again, the Veterans Administration has

been sloppy.

Uber may not have even been sloppy with it.

The way

theirs was breached, two hackers got access to a private coding site.

So maybe they were sloppy or not, but the Veterans Administration has been irresponsible and sloppy.

You own that company.

So if you said what I would do, if an owner of Uber,

I would make sure people were held accountable and I want a plan in the future.

Who has been held accountable?

What is the plan for the future?

Over and over again, the Veterans Administration has failed us.

But it's far worse than breaching private information.

There is a new Inspector General report this morning about the Veterans Administration.

And it confirms,

among other things, that the Veterans Administration facility in Denver

has been lying about wait times

that track mental health care.

How

many

times do we have to read about this as the owners, the people who are ultimately in charge of saying what is right and wrong within our government?

How many times do we have to hear about these stories before we actually hold people accountable and before we actually get a working plan for the future?

This has happened over and over again.

Most recently,

a former VA employee by the name of Brian Smother claimed that the staff in Denver kept separate lists.

The same thing that we had.

We've learned we've heard that before.

Over and over again.

Chris Cruz of the Morning Blaze joining me as well, who is a combat veteran, having served both in Iraq and Afghanistan, who suffers with PTSD, who has had his ankles replaced.

Chris, over and over again, this is the story.

This was the big fail out of Phoenix, as a matter of fact, where veterans died.

It had to do with the wait times.

Number one, the failure is that veterans do not get the timely service that they need, the timely appointments they need.

But then covering it up, they covered up the wait times and had a separate list.

It's infuriating.

I don't know what else it takes.

How many times do we have to hear these stories?

And not just that, I tried, Doc, I'm not the most healthy person out there.

Well, I think anyone that listens to the morning blaze knows that.

Exactly.

And one of the things, I had an issue with my heartburn.

I get heartburns in the morning and it's frustrating.

And, you know, I thought it was something.

But it's chronic and it's almost debilitating.

Exactly.

So I was like, you know what?

I want to get this child.

I don't want to have an ulcer or something wrong with me because my body's telling me, hey, there's something wrong with me.

Too much acid.

It's about the exactly.

I called the VA in Orlando, Florida.

And I was like, hey, I'm scared.

You know, the syntax is no longer working.

What can I do?

You got in and out, right?

You can come in.

I was like, oh, good.

Thank you.

Good, good job.

February of the next year.

And I was calling.

Wait, wait, wait, what?

Were you calling in January?

No, I was calling in July of the year before.

So you're called in July, and they said, great, come right in in February.

In February.

Wow.

Something that I, that I'm worried because I got heartburn every single morning.

Like, excessive.

Excessive.

I'm talking about.

And then medication says if it prolongs two weeks or more, please contact your doctor because it could be something serious.

So they said, this is happening.

And if this happens for more than two weeks, contact your doctor.

And you contact.

And they're like, great, great.

February

in February of 2017.

Hey, wow, that's uh, that's good.

And I was like, are you kidding me?

They're like, oh, we're busy, but if somebody cancel, we'll call you.

Who's canceling when everybody's backlogged sex in nine months?

I was like, nobody's going to cancel.

This is infuriating.

Think about when I asked you about owning Uber.

Maybe you own a business.

What if your kids acted this way?

What if the guy who cuts your lawn, maybe you're not a business owner, but you employ people to do things from time to time around your house, your veterinarian, your dentist, whatever it is.

If this is how they treated you and your information, you would demand accountability

and you would demand an answer moving forward or you would what?

No longer do business with them.

I think it's time we no longer do business with the Veterans Administration.

It is time it is shut down.

Now, veterans out there, don't for a moment think I'm abandoning abandoning you.

I'm not suggesting we shut it down tomorrow and leave all of you.

No, it is a slow shutdown rolling out over the next four, whatever years it takes.

At the same time, offering veterans another plan where the United States government, and by that I mean American citizens, pick up your health care fees.

That's it.

There's the solution.

We don't need all of these people working within the administration.

We don't need levels and levels of bureaucracy.

We need money in in the hands of those veterans so they can get an insurance policy and go to the doctor.

There are doctors everywhere, doctors that you can get in today if you're not in the veterans administration.

The veterans would be able to pick whatever doctor they want.

That is the accountability.

I'm calling for it now.

Over and over, breaches of security, veterans being killed, secret wait lists.

This continues to happen and nobody is offering a solution.

You want a solution?

Here's the solution.

Results.

We demand results.

No more left versus right, Democrat, Republican, unions or any of that crap.

Results.

All I want to hear is results.

You get in the debate with somebody, you're at Thanksgiving dinner tomorrow and it comes up.

What are the results?

What has happened?

What are the results?

Well, we fired.

What were the results?

Well, we got a new direct.

What were the results?

This is not two years.

of results we can look at.

We can look at the last 50, 60.

The Veterans Administration has been around since the the 1930s.

Prior to that, the Veterans Bureau for 10 years and they failed over and over again every couple of years.

Massive failures.

What are the results?

All I want, what are the results?

We've got a track record of continuous failure.

What are the results?

Great.

There's no denying that.

Now, moving forward, if it is anything like we continue to do, Well, we're going to get a new, no, that hasn't worked.

Well, we'll change, no, that hasn't worked.

Shut it down.

Give veterans the money or or the policies they need to get the health care and then get out of the way.

Glenn back.

Glenn back.

Doc Thompson in for Glenn Beck.

A lot of people tweeting at me.

It's at Doc Thompson Show.

I'm just, I'm tired of it.

I don't know if we are ever going to actually do this.

We keep being lied to.

And for some reason, even though most Americans, without question, support veterans and active duty military,

we just are not holding them accountable.

Maybe it's not as juicy as a story as Harvey Weinstein showered naked in front of people

or Charlie Rose showered naked in front of people.

What is it?

What is with the showering naked in front of people?

Why was that enjoyable?

Whatever happened to this normal

like fondling somebody

groping.

No, no, I'm going to shower and I want you to watch it.

I want you to watch it.

I'm not endorsing any of that.

No, no, no, I don't want to touch you.

I don't want to teach you that.

That's just an ever-level creepy.

Just stand there and watch me shower like a normal person.

An extra level of creepy, right?

That's just...

All right.

No, I'm not.

All of that's wrong, of course.

It's just particularly bizarre.

I just don't know what it's going to take.

So let me give you the basic background to this.

The former VA employee said that there was a secret list being kept, and the IG report confirmed, yeah.

So what what that means is it's impossible to know if the veterans who needed referrals for group therapy or other things actually got it in a timely manner.

And they also criticized the record keeping, specifically in the Colorado Springs, Colorado VA, saying that the PTSD cases were not getting the services they need on time.

Patients there often waited more than 30 days.

30 days is what they, that's their goal, that with PTSD, you'll be there within 30 days.

30 days is unacceptable to me.

For someone who's suicidal, yeah.

Knowing that minimum 22, maybe as many as 70, kill themselves, veterans a day.

Yeah.

I would think 30 days is a little long.

In fact, in one case, a veteran killed himself 13 days after contacting a clinic there.

They were supposed to see him within a week.

Had they seen him within a week, like they said they were supposed to or going to,

he wouldn't have killed himself.

It went 13 days.

Now, I know that there will be some limitations.

It can't be unlimited.

But 30 days for PTSD, I'm sorry.

I would think that's something that should be more timely.

But they can't even get in within the 30 days.

It was a secret list.

Why?

Why do they keep the secret lists?

Often the secret lists are kept to make themselves look good,

to make it look like they're actually seeing people sooner than they are, so they get to keep their bonuses.

And by the way, President Trump is now on the hook for some of this stuff.

No, I did not vote for Trump, but I have given him his due.

I, of course, didn't vote for Hillary Clinton, but I vote on track record.

His track record was not great, partially because he never been in office before.

But I've given him pretty high marks, Supreme Court pick and some other things.

I have not been unduly critical, but this is one he now owns.

You've been in office coming up on a year.

And by the way, some of the people that he fired when he first took office in the Veterans Administration sued and got their job back.

How are they able to do this?

Via the unions.

Meeting the union must be broken at the Veterans Administration.

They're protecting bad players.

And President Trump needs to lead on this more, and he needs to lead Congress, and Congress needs to get on board.

Dramatic changes because the results have shown that it does not work.

Meanwhile, the Veterans Administration, the one of Eastern Colorado there that was at the center of all this,

they said they agreed with a lot of the IG report,

but didn't like the term secret list

because,

quote, nothing about this process was secret and that it was discontinued once staff became aware that it violated VA policies.

Once they became, who doesn't know that's going to violate policy?

If this were the private sector, and whatever the list was, if you worked at a chain restaurant and you had a list of people for reservations,

and yet you had a second list that was benefiting your job to have it.

You don't know that's going to be a violation.

It's at least a moral breakdown, a moral violation, morally wrong, even if it's not specifically laid out in the company handbook.

You don't know this?

What kind of adults are you hiring there at the VA if you don't know that this is a problem?

Well, it was discontinued once we discontinued.

You didn't learn from Phoenix or any of the other hospitals that had secret wait lists

unacceptable.

We must demand a change now.

This must be, and by the way, this is not one of the difficult ones.

We can do this much easier than some of the other things we're trying to tackle.

Stop screwing around with taxes and everything else.

Those are important as well.

Fix the VA and fix it now.

In fact, use the hashtag fixtheva and tweet at the president.

Glenn back.

This is the Glenn Beck program.

Got to get some tweets now.

It's at Doc Thompson Show.

If you would please follow me on Twitter at Doc Thompson Show.

Let's see here.

We got Kool-Aid with a C tweeting.

Hashtag what I learned today.

Day before Thanksgiving.

And at Doc Thompson Show has me so pissed off.

It's time to hashtag fix the VA.

Yeah, sorry about that the day before Thanksgiving.

We've got some other things to cover coming up.

I just, just, I couldn't let that one go when I saw it today.

I saw people melting down and the media leading with the breach that Uber and the way they covered it up.

And that's horrible.

It's wrong.

You got to decide whether or not you're going to do business with them in the future.

That's fine.

It's your choice.

A lot of companies have had that happen.

They tried to cover it up.

That seems wrong.

But at the same time,

I see yet another IG report about the failures of the Veterans Administration, virtually silent from the media.

And guess what?

We all

own the Veterans Administration.

They work for us.

It's our tax dollars that fund it.

And what do we have?

We can't vote with our dollars.

We have to vote.

You vote for who you want, who you think's going to fix it.

But unfortunately, there's no accountability.

Got a tweet from

Rosa tweeting, at Doc Thompson's show, thanks for reminder this morning on GB show that you didn't vote for Trump.

That was a vote for Hillary.

No, Rose, you're wrong.

It was not.

And I'm not letting you go go to pin that crap on me.

I didn't vote for Hillary.

I didn't support her.

She's an abomination.

In fact, I bored her on thinking she's evil.

I didn't vote for Trump because I vote on track record.

And your nonsense idea that a non-vote for Trump is somehow a vote for Hillary when I voted neither of the two is exactly what's gotten us there.

I'm not going to debate this at length today, but I'm tired of this nonsense where you're forcing people into one camp or the other.

It's nonsense.

Vote for people and hold them accountable.

Vote on principle and character and track record that proves their principle and character.

Don't hold me accountable for the disaster that are the Clintons.

Hillary is Hillary.

I didn't vote for her and I wouldn't vote for her.

And how dare you say that to me?

I'm the one holding people accountable.

I'm also one that's out here every day trying to help people, Veterans Administration.

In fact, coming up Friday on this program,

I'm going to give people free commercials to promote your business.

This is my commitment to helping people.

This is what I do all the time.

But I'm going to do it on Glenn's program the day after Thanksgiving.

Join us, and I will give you roughly 60 seconds or so to promote your business.

All you have to do is use the hashtag BuildingAmerica.

Plan on calling up on Friday.

If you are planning on calling up, make sure your website works.

Make sure that you have enough bandwidth.

You talk to your provider or whatever that can handle hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of people clicking at once, because that is the power of this broadcast.

Make sure you can handle it because we don't want to crash it.

We just want to get you customers.

Make sure you have your ducks in a row.

Use the hashtag Building America.

If you don't get somebody's name and you're listening, you can go back on Twitter and look through Building America and I'll tweet out a link to all of them.

If you don't get through and you want to promote your business, use the hashtag Building America and promote it on Twitter and other people will see it then as they scroll through.

That's my commitment to you, trying to help as much as I can.

That's Friday on the Glenn Beck program.

We like to tell during our morning broadcast on the Blaze Radio Network the story of entrepreneurs, people with the entrepreneurial spirit, people that dream and do.

And a couple of weeks ago, we talked to a gentleman who also has a book out called Meaningful Work, A Quest to Do Great Business, Finding Your Calling, and Feed Your Soul.

His name is Sean Eskinosi, and he joins us now.

Hey, Sean, how are you?

I'm great.

Thanks for having me on.

Sean's also the founder of Eskinosi Chocolate.

Tell us how you came to found a chocolate company.

Well, I was a criminal defense lawyer for 20 years.

Oh, that's a realized.

That's a perfect leap, right?

That makes a lot of sense.

Exactly, yeah.

A logical step from a criminal defense lawyer to chocolate maker.

But, you know, I did it for 20 years.

I spent a lifetime in the courtroom and tried a lot of murder cases, and I loved it.

And I think a lot of people can connect to this.

I loved it until I didn't.

And I could tell in my body and my spirit and my soul that I didn't love it anymore.

And that's the kind of job, I I mean, you know, the stakes are high.

You can't just phone it in.

And so I was passionate about finding another passion.

And I couldn't, I had no hobbies.

I didn't, I didn't do anything else but prepare for trial.

And this is real quick.

This is one of the reasons we tell stories like yours on our Building America because it helps promote your business and stuff.

But people, you know, aside from hearing about great products and services, they get to hear stories like yours that, you know, relate to them and hopefully inspire them.

So you got to that point, you're like, okay, I don't love it anymore.

And where do you go from?

Well, my wife said,

and she half jokingly said, can't you just double up on your Lexapro?

And

the thing is, it doesn't work that way.

It doesn't.

You don't take two of them in the morning, you know, to feel even double better.

But anyway, so what happened is, is I started to, I committed this to prayer.

And it was a very simple prayer that went like this.

Dear God, please help me find something else to do.

And I said that sometimes 20 times a day.

And the thing is, and this is what the book is about, and I think a lot of people understand, they know they want to do something else.

They know they have a skill set.

They know that they have this idea, but they can't figure out what it is.

They don't know, and we're sort of inundated with information.

Google now gives us this thought that everything is open to us, and so we're paralyzed.

And for me, and

this may sound a little counterintuitive, but here's what I did.

And I think this is appropriate for Thanksgiving.

As this hard-charging lawyer,

not thinking about what was the greatest sorrow in my life, which was my dad's death when I was 14, he was my hero and a lawyer too, and he died of lung cancer, and it was the most sad, sorrowful time in my life.

And I never really had a conversation with that sorrow, with that grief.

And so my daughter read this book to me out loud called Tuesdays with Maury, and it just changed my life.

And I started trying to work on grief.

And so I volunteered at a local hospital in their palliative care department.

And for almost five years on Fridays, I would go visit with patients who were dying.

And here's the thing.

This is the paradox.

It was in those moments of not thinking about me

that I was able to have space for this

idea to start this business of chocolate.

That's where it hatched.

That's the mystery of serving others, not thinking about yourself and

these things happen this is where creativity happens this is where ideas for businesses happen Gandhi said if you want to lose yourself find yourself in the service of others Jesus said something similar the idea is dying to self it's counterintuitive but that's how it happened for me you know we hear a lot of stories like that too um not just people that you know start businesses or entrepreneurs but are struggling with something and the answers are found in the most unlikely of places and that is not thinking about it and not worrying about you, but worrying about somebody else.

Yeah, I quote Khalil Jabron

in the book who said, and I love this, he said, our greatest joy is our sorrow unmasked.

And that's what you just said.

I mean, it's, and that's, if I could say if there's any message, and this is true for businesses, is that you know someone who needs you.

Don't wait.

So many business people and entrepreneurs come up to me after talks and stuff, and they say, gosh, I need to wait till I get more employees before I help people out in the neighborhood, or I need more net operating income.

And my message is don't wait.

Just roll up your sleeves and start doing it.

And the universe conspires behind that decision to help you out.

That's what happens.

You know, it's funny, too, because that's ultimately, we've boiled down the entrepreneurial spirit.

And I don't mean that just somebody who's for-profit, not that profit's wrong.

Sometimes it could be nonprofit.

It could be just a small little business as a sideline to an extra stream of income for your family, whatever.

But the spirit is the same, and that is dreaming and also doing.

That's the spirit that built America.

That's the spirit of the Industrial Revolution.

Everything, you know, from the light bulb to the automobile, whatever it was to Apple.

It's somebody dreaming and being a little passionate about it.

And then ultimately, and there's the final step that most of them miss, is doing, rolling up your sleeves, like you said, and doing.

Absolutely.

And I just spoke to a bunch of high school students yesterday, and I told them the same thing.

And the message applies.

I don't care.

It doesn't matter what age you are.

That what you just said is really the key.

And it's so simple, but it's hard because we're afraid.

We have fear.

What happens if I fail?

What happens if I can't make payroll?

The list is long, but we just need to take that one step.

And if I could also say,

in listening to the prelude to our interview, you hit on something that I think is really, really, really important.

Yes, sir.

And that is we can judge businesses by their principles, by their character, and by their track record.

And we have the information available to us to judge businesses and products and services in the same way that we judge people that we vote for because we vote with how we spend our money.

And if I could even take it a step further, and this is one of the points I make in the book, I believe that small business is an answer to many of the world's problems.

Small business, it doesn't have to be a huge business with 1,000 employees.

It could be 10 employees.

It could be auto-repair shop in your neighborhood that decides to do some of these things that we're talking about because we have what we call, what, social problems.

You know, we have problems with hunger.

We have problems with education.

But small business has a role to play.

I believe small business has a role to play as, in my case, as a person of faith.

And we have a responsibility to our communities and to our country as business people, as entrepreneurs, I believe, yes, to make a profit, but also to be involved in our community issues.

I think you're absolutely right, and it's a great message before Thanksgiving.

So tell me about the chocolates, Eskinosi chocolates.

I just tweeted out a link to Eskinosi.com.

That's

to your chocolate company, right?

Right, right.

Well, the cool thing about this is I travel to these farms in Tanzania, Philippines, Ecuador, and the Amazon every year.

I've done it for 12 years.

In January, it'll be my 36th origin trip.

It takes me almost 50 hours to get where I'm going to these little villages.

I get to look at the cocoa beans.

And here's the super cool part.

I help farmers open bank accounts so we can pay them directly.

Then I open my books to them the following year.

We translate our books into whatever language they need.

So like when I was in Tanzania in July, the books were in Swahili.

So they can see our revenues, our expenses, and then we give them cash, a profit share.

And we go to a lot of trouble to do this, and then we bring them chocolate that was made from their beans so they can taste it and see the hard work that they put into it and that we put into it to make this product called a chocolate bar.

We made it together.

And, you know, it's a lot of trouble, but we love it.

And we believe that working directly with farmers around the world

improves the quality of our product.

And the other thing that we do with our company is we take local high school students to Tanzania every other summer to meet these cocoa farmers and to understand, you know, get a front row seat how our business really operates

how we buy these beans from cocoa farmers.

And so, yeah, and

one of the things we say is about our chocolate, we say it's not about the chocolate, it's about the chocolate.

And what I mean by that is we are so focused on the quality of our product.

I mean, it's something we think about every day, all day.

It's got to be great.

It's got to be perfect.

And the reason is because we want people to buy our chocolate because they love it, not because of these stories that we talked about at the beginning of the interview.

Yes, we want people to understand our character and our principles and our track record.

But we believe that those things, principle, character, and track record, they inform the quality of our product.

Just like your radio show.

I mean, we could say the same thing.

You know, it's not about...

a radio program.

It's about a radio program.

Why?

Because it's not just about ratings or how many ad dollars you get.

It's because of something you said.

You said, I am trying to help people.

That's the key, Sean.

I mean,

and

this is the message of Glenn Beck as well.

I mean, most people recognize that about him, wrong or right, and he gets some things wrong, and so do I.

But that's our goal.

That's who we are.

That's our character.

Sean, I could talk to you all day long, and we'll have you back at some point, but I want to make sure we get this in.

Sean Eskinos, the founder of Eskinosi, Eskinosi Chocolate.

It's A-S-K-I-N-O-S-I-E.

I tweeted out a link to it.

And also the book, Meaningful Work, I tweeted a link to it as well.

Meaningful Work, a quest to do great business, find your calling, and feed your soul.

Thanks so much, sir.

I really appreciate it.

Okay, thank you, Doc.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Really inspirational guy.

I could go on and on.

Get the book.

I'm sure it's going to help you out quite a bit.

Maybe you think about that tomorrow on Thanksgiving as you're heading and getting

together with family as well.

But I just tweeted the link, so follow me at Doc Thompson's show and you can see them both for yourself.

Glenn, back.

Glenn Beck.

They really didn't want to head down that road.

I really didn't want to go down the two-party system today, the day before Thanksgiving.

The reason I even shared the one tweet from Rose, whatever,

was to just show people I'm transparent in this stuff.

The reason I even mentioned I didn't vote for Donald Trump is because I offer that disclaimer so people know, because because I'm not the regular host of this program where I stand on things.

I have given the president high praise.

I hope he's successful and I support much, probably most of what he's tried to do and many of the things he has done, holding him accountable on the things he's failed at so far, still giving him pretty high marks.

But the reason I mentioned I didn't vote for him was so people understand, offering full disclaimer, nor did I vote for Hillary Clinton because they don't know my track record.

I don't host it every day.

And a lot of people, unfortunately, misunderstand and want to make this about

an election and should we vote for one of the two main parties.

You're wrong if you believe there's only two candidates for president.

And if you enjoy only having two people to choose from,

the progressive Democrats or the progressive Republicans they offer you, good.

But do not blame me because I voted third party.

I always vote.

Don't think I was saying I didn't vote.

I always vote.

I just don't always vote for pro in fact, I never vote for progressives.

I vote for sub-Republicans when they're not progressives.

I do not support progressive Republicans.

Track record proves who people are.

It shows me their character.

If you want to believe that, well, it's the only two viable candidates and use words like that when justifying a forced vote between one of the two, then you know you're wrong.

Well, it's the only one who has a chance of...

If you have to say that, then you know you're wrong.

If you choose that system, which continues to give us crappy Republicans to choose from, then good.

That's your choice.

Do not blame the failures on me.

Glenn back.

Love.

Courage.

Truth.

Glenn Back.

Hi there, it's Doc Thompson in for Glenn.

You can join me on Twitter.

It's at Doc Thompson's show.

You can join me on the phone, 888-727-BEC, 888-727-BEC.

We have been focused on the morning broadcast.

I host the morning program, the Blaze Radio Network.

Go to theblazeradio.com if you want more information on me.

I host the morning program there, and we've been, in addition to trying to help people launch their businesses, promote their businesses, we also focus on any other way we can help people get ahead.

Listen, all of us face some of the same problems, trying to make sure we have enough money to sustain our lives, the people we're trying to help in our family, provide for our children, maybe schooling.

Maybe if you're young in your career, you're like, you know what, I've heard that automation and AI is going to take over my job.

So you're trying to do anything you can to get a leg up.

And we've stumbled upon something that we think could actually help you.

Of course, there are risks involved.

But even if it doesn't help, I think it has it, or even if this is not the exact way forward, I think it has some

of what's likely to come in the future.

So we've been following it and tracking it, and that is cryptocurrency.

There are dozens and dozens, maybe hundreds of cryptocurrencies out there.

There's a couple of big ones, and maybe you've heard it.

Bitcoin, that's probably the big one.

The next two biggest ones are probably Litecoin and Ethereum,

although some other successful ones as well.

Cryptocurrency was launched,

I think, in 2009, 10, when an anonymous person put the information on how this could work out into the

interwebs

saying there's a better way that we can

think about currency, a better currency option in the future.

And it's based on something called the blockchain.

Now, it gets really, really confusing to me.

You got to know IT, you got to know investing, you got to know economics, you got to know all of this stuff really well to fully get it.

You can get a lot of it, and I've studied it as best I can.

But it is a way we can take part in commerce and exchange, right?

And so if you could, of course, carry around, if you're a sheepherder, 14 sheep and anytime you go to buy anything, go, okay, I'll give you half a sheep.

And wait a minute, that gets a little messy.

So I'm just going to buy more of your stuff, but you're selling cars, so I have to drive three cars.

You can't carry the stuff around, hence the reason currency was started in the first place.

The currency

in America, American currency, used to be backed by gold.

So you were carrying around dollars, but you could get gold at any time.

It was the gold standard.

Dollars were backed, the individual dollar was backed by silver.

It was a silver certificate.

If you look at old dollars prior to like the 1950s, it'll say silver certificate at the top.

And then we were taking off the precious metal and gold standards.

And now your paper money is backed by the full faith and credit of the federal government, meaning

nothing.

It's backed.

By the fact that we will exist and they'll always make sure it's sound.

Well, if you look at our now $20 trillion in national debt, hundreds of trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities, a continuing debt or a deficit every year, politicians that overtax and overspend at the same time,

how bright do you think the dollar looks?

Now, I doubt it's going to tank tomorrow, but long term, not a formula for success.

Cryptocurrency, I think, is going to be it.

It may be Bitcoin.

It may not.

Joining us now is Eric Finman.

Eric Finman is a teenager.

Are you 18, Eric?

I just turned 19.

I'm old now.

Oh, you're getting old.

You're an old man now.

Turned 19.

Eric got in on Bitcoin early on and has made himself quite a bit of money.

And it's something that is a passion of his now, and he has quite a bit of information on it.

We've talked to him on our morning broadcast, and I think he's somebody worth hearing from.

Is Bitcoin the future?

I absolutely think it is.

I think, like you said, cryptocurrency is the future, and it's looking like that will be Bitcoin.

I think Bitcoin is when the, like we talked about, the dollar is going to collapse big time with all the

unfunded liabilities, national debt.

The U.S.

is not looking good.

And Bitcoin, I think, is in a lot of ways in a similar way to gold, is a kind of

safety asset that you can put your money into.

I think Bitcoin is actually very similar, very, very similar, and even better in the of being safe when things go down.

Now, full disclosure, if you invest in Bitcoin, it could fall apart tomorrow.

All of it could.

Any of it could.

It's a risk.

It's an investment.

That's full disclosure.

And also, full disclosure, I own a very small part of the Bitcoin right now, and I own a couple of Litecoins and a couple of Ethereum as well.

I just want people to know that.

So, yeah, I am biased in this.

I think it likely is going to go up, but I'm not having Jan to promote just those, but more to teach people that if this cryptocurrency is the future, they need to make themselves knowledgeable.

And

if Bitcoin is an opportunity for people to make money, they should take part, right?

Give them the opportunity.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

I think it's great as an investment, absolutely.

But even if it stayed at a similar price or

kind of stayed the same price, I think it's still a very safe asset.

I think that's

one of the main uses of Bitcoin is during hard economic times or to get around maybe when the US dollar goes down and other countries they've seized everyone's assets and done all that stuff.

I think from a political point of view, I think Bitcoin is just a good safety thing to put your money into.

And of course, you know, just like with any market, it can be a little bit risky.

But I think if especially if politicians decide to do all those things,

I think if anything, Bitcoin will shoot up because everyone will be putting their money into it.

But just like with any markets, I think

it is, of course, there's a risk.

Now, you can purchase some things.

Some people use Bitcoin as a currency.

So you buy Bitcoin with dollars, and then that becomes your new dollar, it's your new currency.

And then you can use that to buy some products and services.

Still very limited, but they're out there.

That's the long-term goal, though, right?

Right now, I think a lot of the Bitcoin success, the price per coin is going up.

I think that's being driven by people that are investing.

But the long-term goal is that we will no longer spend dollars.

We will spend Bitcoins or parts of them, right?

Yeah, absolutely.

I think that that's kind of what people are hoping for in the sense that Bitcoin will be the new money of the future and

the new money of everything.

And

I think that some cryptocurrency, that's definitely going to happen.

And it's looking like that Bitcoin will be the winner of that.

So I think absolutely

it's going to be a currency and just as you convert it from dollars into pounds or dollars into wans or yen, you can convert your dollars into

Bitcoin.

You know, it's funny.

I was talking with a couple of the guys from the morning broadcast about Bitcoin a couple of days ago, and I realized we still think in terms of dollar.

There's nothing we do as Americans where we don't think value in terms of dollars.

In other words, if I try to sell you a couch, the value is in dollars.

I don't think, well, that would be one-fourth of a Buick or, you know,

200 times a pizza or anything like that.

We automatically have to use dollar as a measuring stick.

And that will not always be the future.

Or that will not always be the case.

It will not be the future.

Yeah, I agree.

I mean,

I think that's one of the problems with Bitcoin is that, you know, you have to say a tenth of a Bitcoin and a tenth of a Bitcoin can change and all that.

So I think maybe the only use case of dollars that will be left in the future

might be just as a unit of measurement for Bitcoin, which would be ironic.

Okay, now tell us your past.

How did you get started in this?

And then I have a couple of questions about the future.

Absolutely, absolutely.

So, yeah, so I got into it when

about seven years ago.

So, I was very young.

I grew up with this, and I had a family member that

got into it.

And he was,

we were a little bit of a political family.

I was brought to protests.

I got tear gassed when I was at a very young age.

And maybe that's why I need glasses now.

I have to wear glasses, but probably not.

So, we got into it, and we saw this thing.

Well, this cool new thing, Bitcoin, it's going to be the future.

It allows

to run a currency outside of the system completely decentralized no one person one company is running it and we really saw this as the future so I got into it I spent about I got a thousand dollar check for my grandmother when I was very young and that was supposed to go to my college fund and did the it did not go to my college fund so my I my I had a family member teach me how put kind of teach me how to put it into Bitcoin and how to trade Bitcoin and and I didn't tell my parents and I definitely didn't tell my grandmother

Wow, and and I don't know if I think my grandmother, I don't think, I don't think she knows actually where that $1,000 went still.

I think she still thinks I'm going to college, but it's

but anyway, so I spent all this time, traded it, spent the next years every day trying to get just a little bit more, make predictions, see if I can be accurate.

And I got that now it's over a million plus dollars is what I have.

And I actually made a bet with my parents, speaking of college, of if I

so I dropped out of school and my parents made a deal with me.

They said,

if you make a million dollars before the time you're 18, you don't have to go to college.

You don't have to go back into the traditional education system, which I didn't like.

And then so I obviously, I worked hard and I won that bet.

You know, they set that as a goal.

They're like, this kid's never going to do that.

He's going to college.

And you're like, nope, check out this.

See this bank account, dad?

That's a great story.

And when you were purchasing early on, I mean, seven years ago, Bitcoin was, what, couple cents or under a buck anyways, right?

Yeah, yeah.

I knew about it since when it started trading in 2010.

And then it was kind of started 2009, trading in 2010, and I got into it 2011.

So at that point, it was at about $10 to $12 when I got bought in.

Still very low.

Wow, that's still an awesome story.

So without going into the whole explanation of how Bitcoin works, because we could be here for four hours, and I would just ask people to do your research, look online.

There's a lot of documentaries and stuff out there.

And maybe, again, Bitcoin isn't the cryptocurrency of the future.

I think it will be, at least in the short term and possibly the long term.

I think one of them or some of the technology will be used.

What is going on with Bitcoin now with this

fork?

It's not really a split.

It's a fork in Bitcoin.

How does this work?

So, yeah, so since what's beautiful about Bitcoin, so if you try to fork the US dollar, if you will, or create, so instead of everyone using the the US dollar people might say oh let's let's do the US dollar 2.0 and then in the past and in the in the current the US would put you in jail for that and they have they put people in jail for that so what's beautiful about Bitcoin is that since it's just backed by the people that use it it's a you know market rate so if the market will pay for people can create alternatives to Bitcoin or different versions of Bitcoin

so that's that's kind of what they're doing here so when people create a different version of Bitcoin they might say, oh, this has a better technology.

It's easier to use.

It might be like someone's making a version of Bitcoin that's easier to use than cash and all that stuff.

But then that can kind of create a little bit of tension in the price of Bitcoin and the markets.

So I think

that's kind of what it is.

There's a lot of kind of, since Bitcoin is so decentralized, it's both a good thing and a bad thing.

A good thing is everyone can come together and decide the future of the community and be independent.

And then also, you know, that can can sometimes can hurt it and help it in many ways.

Let me explain,

try to come up with a similar scenario to make sure I understand.

So since it's user-based, so there's not one Mr.

Bitcoin saying how things are going to be.

It's user-based.

It would be like me and you saying, and a bunch of other people getting together and say, we are going to create our own coin, this own coin out of rocks or something.

We're going to chisel each one out of rock and we'll all use these to take part in currency.

I'll sell cars with them.

I'll accept, you know, those rock coins, this physical thing for cars, and you're making pizzas and take them for that, and so on and so forth.

And we exchange them.

And then one day, my buddy Patrick comes along and goes, you know, I have these rock currencies too, but, and I still work in the community, but I think it'd be better if it was made out of metal or out of fabric or whatever it is.

So he starts doing those.

Is that kind of it?

You're talking about a different technology, but still within the same community?

Yeah, absolutely.

So

someone might say, oh, well, the metal is lighter than the rock,

and then they have to convince everyone to go over it to the metal.

I see.

That's a good description.

It's Eric Finman on Twitter.

E-R-I-K-F-I-N-M-A-N on Twitter.

Is that right?

Yes, correct.

And I'm also doing, I really want to get the word out there so people can understand Bitcoin in the simplest of terms, but still

really do

understand it at all parts in very simple terms.

So I'm doing a Bitcoin course that's going to be completely easy and free and all that.

So it's going to be on my Twitter.

I'll be announcing it.

It's just learnbitcoin.botangle.com.

Okay, I'll tweet out a link to that as well so people can find out.

And this would be a good thing to discuss over the holidays.

You're getting together with family tomorrow.

Maybe as a family, you say, hey, do we put a couple of bucks in some sort of cryptocurrency?

But Eric, thanks so much for sharing, buddy.

Appreciate it.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Quick break.

Back with more on this, The Glenn Back program.

Glenn back.

Glenn back.

All right.

I hope it works out for you.

Check out the cryptocurrencies out there.

Do your homework.

It's the reason I wanted full disclosure that, yeah, I have a little bit.

If you're looking for a site to use, I've used Coinbase.

I think that's what Stu has used.

Cal, what's the one Glenn uses?

Zappo?

Yeah,

it's pronounced Zapo.

It's Xapo.

Oh, X-A-P-O.

There are different limitations and restrictions on these different sites, but that's one you can check out and use.

There's probably other ones as well.

I'm sharing the ones that we've used because I know them.

There's going to be some unscrupulous ones, so do your homework there.

And I think Zapo has like a pretty high minimum that you got to buy at.

They may have like a $10,000 limit.

With Coinbase, there's no limit.

You could buy five bucks, you know.

Which we have done.

Yeah.

Bitcoin's right around $8,200 this morning.

For one coin, yeah.

For one, but here's the thing: you can put five bucks in, $10, $20.

You don't have to buy a full coin.

Unlike a stock where you usually have to buy an entire share.

And if it could be $4 a share, it could be $4 million a share.

But Bitcoin, you can buy just a portion of one.

The only other way you do stocks like that is if it's part of like a fund where you could put a smaller amount into the fund and it's 0.0001% of a share of whatever.

You finally got a little bit of Bitcoin, right?

I did.

I bought

like a quarter or something, or not even less than a quarter.

So you're getting ready.

And then when that slip happened where

a couple weeks ago, where they were trying to fork off Bitcoin Classic and Bitcoin Cash, I sold most of it,

but now it went back up again, so I bought a little bit more into it.

So you're getting ready to retire then?

You plan to retire.

There's a lot of options with it out there, but imagine for a moment, hindsight, of course, is 2020.

You hear these stories of people going, I bought in an Apple when they were first launched and it was only so much money and I put $15,000 into it or $10,000 and now it's worth $75 trillion, right?

You always hear these stories.

Or they'll do this.

Well, such and such a stock is now over such and such.

It's split 400 times.

If you'd invested $31 25 years ago, you'd be a billionaire, right?

You always hear those stories.

Well, hindsight's 2020.

You never know.

Number two, for most of us, once it starts climbing and you're like, wow, I made six grand, I'm out.

Not because you're worried that it's going to fall, although that's sometimes the case, but because you need the money, right?

You got 6,000 sitting there.

You're like, I want to buy a house.

I got to put the kid in college, whatever it is.

And then there's the,

well, you would have had to have invested 5,000 in order to be at the, you know, $2 million now or whatever the standard is they tell you.

Well, most of us, Even if you could scrounge up 5,000, most of us don't have it in our bank account, but you go, you know what?

If I I had to, you know, somebody's dying.

I got to come up with money.

You go, okay, I could sell this.

I could sell that.

I'd work a couple of extra shifts.

Reluctantly, it would be difficult.

I'd come up with 5,000, right?

Are you going to do all that and put it in something which you're still worried could fail or whatever?

So we don't think that way.

We don't think big.

We know about the risks.

We worry about that.

We plan to fail.

We never plan what if we succeed and take the gamble.

And if this is heading to be as big as what people are predicting it's going to be or how big it's going to be, I mean, even if now, if, you know, whatever,

you said $8,200 for one coin, the average person doesn't have $8,200.

But even if you buy point point, whatever, like I did, think down the line when this is a major currency, it can go for up to $8,000, $100,000.

We've heard predictions, and they sound ridiculous, but we've heard predictions where it might go to a million bucks a coin.

So

take that with a grain of salt and do your research, you know.

Right.

You buy $800 worth, so you buy a tenth of a coin right now.

Well, great.

It's $100,000 if it goes that high or whatever.

You know what I mean?

At some point,

you have to figure out what you're going to do and take something.

Now, here's the other thing you could do.

And again, all of this is risk.

You find one of the cryptocurrencies that are four cents right now or

four for a penny or whatever it is.

Put 20 bucks into it.

Buy 100 of them or whatever.

It's okay to give up a couple Starbucks over the next few weeks.

On speculation.

You know, it's the fear of the unknown is what prevents us from taking those risks.

I mean, I see it in business all the time, but $20, that's not a large risk for almost any family.

Well, and then, I mean, know the risk, but you're at $20.

But if Bitcoin goes big,

theoretically, all of them will have a moment in the sun.

Even if they all fail six months later, they will all go up a little bit, theoretically.

So there's a possibility, too.

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It's Doc Thompson in for Glenn.

Thanks so much, and happy Thanksgiving.

I've been remiss in getting to my phone calls.

Let's go to line 44, Kendall in Arkansas.

Thanks so much for holding.

How are you?

Yeah, how are you, sir?

Hey, Buck.

Happy Thanks, Kevin.

Thank you, sir.

Listen, I'm a 20-year retired U.S.

Navy veteran.

I'm also disabled.

Thank you, sir.

Thank you.

If you can figure out how to fix the VA, you'll win the internet.

I think I'm on some of it.

I think I got a little bit of it anyway.

The VA is like the death star.

You just don't walk up.

I've been dealing not with a medical situation, but with an administrative situation for four years.

Incredible.

I've gotten my congressman involved, my senator involved, the DAV involved, all these people, and

all the answers they can get me are the same answers that I get until this past summer, the president started the White House Veterans Hotline.

And if you call that phone number and explain your problem to them, they will get somebody back to you guaranteed within two weeks to help you with your issue.

That sounds awesome.

Has it worked?

Well, it's helped me somewhat.

Mine's kind of a difficult situation because it's dealing with two children, but I have a friend of mine who is a Vietnam veteran.

And

a few months back, they completely stopped his VA benefits because he defaulted on a home loan that he never never took out.

Well, that sounds like a problem.

So he made a phone call.

They said, we'll call you back.

A lady called him back and they resolved his issue completely within about 45 minutes.

So I have the number here.

You gave it to our call screener.

Does that spell anything out or it's just the number?

It's just the number.

Okay, and make sure I have this right.

855-948-2311.

Yes, sir.

All right, I'm going to tweet this out as well.

It's 855-948-2311.

And this specifically is Veterans Hotline via the White House.

The White House set it up?

Yes, sir.

And when you talk to somebody, you're not talking to a VA representative.

You're talking to somebody that

has the president's ear, and then they get in touch with who needs to get in touch with you.

Now, I will give President Trump credit.

He's been much better about the VA than we've had in quite a long time.

Even George W.

Bush, who, you know, did pretty well by the veterans, or a lot of veterans would agree with, but it's still an ongoing failure, and it needs to be fixed.

855-948-2311.

And again, I'll tweet that out.

Kendall, thanks so much for sharing.

Thank you for the service, and happy Thanksgiving, buddy.

Same to you guys.

Thanks.

Have a good one.

All right, let's go to Willie in Michigan.

What's going on in the Mitten State this morning?

How are you?

Good.

How are you doing today?

Doing well, sir.

Yeah,

I was just calling about the whole Uber situation, and then it kind of ties in with the Veterans Administration about how the whole

nobody's taking care of responsibilities.

You know what I mean?

Like,

and then with Uber,

there should be some kind of legal ramifications with them not sharing the information with the people that were violated.

And then, you know, and the government needs to step in with the VA administration as well.

And there should be also some legal ramifications with them they're just straight up lying to people you know what I mean how can you have two lists you know what I'm saying that that makes no absolutely no sense to me and

like over in Britain they overhauled their whole justice system how I just don't see how we can't overhaul our whole VA system redo it completely top to bottom and I know we have unions and we need to get like you said we need to bust them up the unions unions used to be good back in the day they helped people out you know they got them jobs they got them fair wages stuff like that you know what

even even for people out there that are saying well you know what you just show good and whatever i i agree with you you're right they had their day and they've outserved a lot of their usefulness but specifically just with the veterans administration they are propping up a bad system they're the ones who keep stepping in and getting in the way thank you for the call buddy i appreciate it in effect what they've done is they've managed to hire force the hiring back of failed people, people who didn't just fail at their jobs, but actually killed veterans.

I would think that's a violation of

what you're trying to accomplish, your stated goals of the Veterans Administration.

It's 180 degrees.

It's the worst that could happen.

But for some reason, they were hired back because the unions were able to push that kind of power.

It needs to go away.

And the way you do it,

don't even get sucked into the, well, we've got to privatize.

That's essentially what it is.

But that's a scare tactic when most people say it.

You don't want to privatize it, right?

Forget all of that.

The Veterans Administration's budget continues to increase.

Not that it's not worth it.

We should make sure to take care of them.

We just need to make sure we get the biggest bang for our buck.

And anytime there's a problem, they say, we need more money.

It is not a failure of money.

It's about $180 billion a year now.

And you divide the number of veterans or $180 billion by the number of veterans, and you'll realize for the veterans that use the medical portion,

you could give each one,

it's been a while since I've done the math, but roughly $20,000, $25,000 a year.

You could just, here's a check, go buy your insurance plan.

And if it were for all veterans, even those that do not use the medical right now, it's $12,000 to $15,000.

Okay, that's pretty good.

And by the way, a lot of that budget that we currently spend goes to worker bees and, you know, people working in the facility.

And then you sell off those hospital systems or whatever, and you recoup some of the costs.

And what do you do?

You put it to the veterans.

I mean, there's a way to do that.

People mention TRICARE on Twitter and the little health card you get.

That seems like a wonderful plan.

Give them the card.

Use it wherever you want.

Go and get your own.

The problem is you're duplicating some services.

I would rather have that than just the Veterans Administration.

And the other problem is that card was, when it first was pushed, was not able to be used everywhere.

And there are still sub-restrictions.

You have to be so far from a veterans hospital or a facility.

There's some restrictions to it.

Essentially, we expand that.

And then we use

the shutting down of some of the veterans' facilities or all of it eventually, to fund that.

So in the long run, over the course of years, you get veteran.

Here are your benefits.

If you have not seen

the movie,

Thank You for Your Service, it's probably still in some movie theaters out there.

Look for it this weekend.

Thank you for your service.

It's the story of veterans who come home from combat.

on the battlefield one day as important men and women saving lives, responsible for multi-million dollars worth of equipment and lives literally in the palm of their hand with a goal, doing good in the world.

And the next day they're at home, back to their lives that have changed, sometimes spouses having cheated on them or left them with people in their community that treat them as uneducated and no skills.

And they suffer from PTSD and traumatic brain injury and what they go through, and it's not sensationalized, it's just true.

We went to see with our buddy Chris Cruz from our morning broadcast, and I thought it was amazing and powerful.

Every member of our government should see it.

The president should see it.

It should be mandatory viewing.

Everybody at the VA should see it.

But if you're a veteran and a combat veteran, I got to caution you because it's likely going to trigger you.

Triggered our buddy.

It's just powerful.

See it.

Thank you for your service if you want to understand.

I'm tweeting out a link to the hotline that the guy just gave us.

If you want some solutions, and we always try to talk solutions with some of these problems, with all these problems, I have a blanket solution for you.

An unlikely or unexpected solution.

Tomorrow and what tomorrow represents,

Thanksgiving, it's really the solution to a lot of our problems.

Think about all of the issues that have cropped up in the last 10, whatever years, especially when it comes to the social justice warriors, the strife on college campuses, the kneeling at football games, the disrespect and the claims of people being treated poorly and the divide and it's not equal and safe spaces and Antifa and all of this nonsense, right?

If you take a moment, not just tomorrow, but every day, and count your blessings,

realizing what you truly have to be thankful for.

Now, a lot of us do that anyways.

You may do that on Thanksgiving.

You say, Doc, I do it all the time.

I go to church.

I count my blessings.

We say it before we eat.

Hey, what are you thankful for this year?

But when you really focus on it, and the more you focus on it, many of those other problems simply melt away.

If the people that are out there masked being shipped in by George Soros to college campuses, demanding safe spaces, you know, waving Antifa flags, if the football players kneeling during during the national anthem, if they really counted their blessings,

those things wouldn't exist.

Those protests would go away.

See, when you count your blessings,

there's a natural

prioritizing, prioritization of everything.

When you say, yes, I was pissed off because that lady in front of me and lied wouldn't hurry up and I have things to

and I do it all the time.

I am, Cal, I don't know if you know this, but I'm impatient.

I have noticed.

Okay, a little bit impatient.

When you really count your blessings and go, oh,

you know, I have a job and I'm going home and I'm going to be with my family.

And none of them are terminally ill right now.

And you know what?

We're able to pay the mortgage this month.

And we have a car.

And you start going down the list.

All of those things you realize are not on your top million list.

Being thankful

is the key

because it naturally prioritizes all of you snot-nose brats on college campuses that think you're put upon.

You want to know what put upon is?

The characters represented in the movie Thankforth for your service.

Those are people that really have a lot of crap heaped upon them

because they did something for other people.

They did something for you.

They carry these burdens, the physical and mental scars, and will carry them forever, struggling every day

because they did something good.

Count your blessings, that you don't suffer what they suffer.

You don't have to deal with PTSD and traumatic brain injuries.

You don't have to think every second of the day, am I safe?

And have struggles in your relationships because you have seen some of the worst of humanity?

Count your blessings, be thankful,

and all of those other things that you're currently pissed off about

just don't matter.

Back in a moment with more on this, the Glenn Beck program.

Glenn back

Glenn Beck.

Hi there, it's Doc Thompson with you today.

Don't forget,

coming up Friday, I'll be with you, and we're going to spotlight Black Friday and all the wonderful things that are free market and capitalism in America by giving you some free commercials.

So be prepared for that on Friday.

And we ask you to listen and also maybe help out some of those businesses by checking them out.

If it looks good, you know, use their products or services.

Joining us now is celebrity chef Patrick Mosier on Twitter.

It's at FoodBiz Pro.

You You can also go to foodbizpro.com.

If you're looking for a business consultant, he specializes in the food service industry, restaurants and supermarkets and whatnot.

But chefs are particularly good at knowing how to price things and the business aspect of it.

So he consults other businesses.

It's foodbizpro.com.

You can check him out there.

Joining us as we on this Thanksgiving Eve talk about all kinds of things food related.

And Patrick, I stumbled across a list of,

and this was done from, I think, General Mills, the most popular Thanksgiving food in every state based on social media posts and research, right?

Yeah, so what they do is

General Mills, they track all of the Google searches within each state during the holiday season, and then they look and see which one is the most popular search.

But here's what's funny about it, the things on the list, some of them are not what I would think Thanksgiving, you know, topic or typical Thanksgiving fair.

I mean, some are, and then some are really weird.

So you got some things like

Alaska cinnamon rolls.

Okay, I guess that could be breakfast

type of thing, but you know.

So you have Alabama sausage balls.

Do we know what those are, by the way?

I'm going to take a gasping.

Everybody knows like

sausage rolled into a ball and either baked or fried in a pan.

I would think that, but I've had

an appetizer that someone called at one time where you take dough and sausage, you know, uncooked dough, but cooked sausage, just wrap it, just mix it in your hand,

just smash it in your hand, form it into a ball, put it on a pan.

So it's just a.

That actually might work.

And you can do that with, you can add cheese to it and then spices or whatever too.

So it may be that, could be that.

Alaska, you said cinnamon rolls, shrimp in Arizona, which is ironic for a couple of reasons because that's Arizona.

That's landlocked state.

Yeah, landlocked state.

And then number two, I guess maybe an appetizer or something, shrimp cocktail.

Shrimp cocktail.

Arkansas, chicken and dumplings.

Yeah, I'm surprised it's not squirrel and dumplings.

Or turkey and dumplings.

Love good dumplings, but that seems like an odd one.

Mac and cheese for California.

Okay, Colorado, cranberry sauce.

At least that's traditional Thanksgiving.

Yeah, butternut squash soup in Connecticut.

At least it's squashes, kind of.

Maybe not in a soup form, but yeah.

Sweet potato casserole in Delaware, sure.

Pumpkin cheesecake in Florida.

You

snobby, arrogant people in Florida.

Okay, how much?

What happened to just pumpkin pie?

How much more plain can you get but mashed potatoes in Illinois?

Yeah, but mashed potatoes are so good.

Idaho, you got biscuits, crescent recipes in Hawaii, and sweet potato casserole in Georgia.

More of this, and Chef Patrick Mosier next.

Glenn back.

Love,

courage,

truth.

Glenn Beck.

Hi there, it's Doc Thompson in for Glenn Beck, and happy Thanksgiving.

Hopefully, you're going to be getting together with family tomorrow.

You'll have some good times.

Hopefully, you'll count your blessings, truly recognizing how much good there is in the world.

We focus on a lot of bad because it's frustrating.

We want the world to be better, and I think most people want

better for our fellow citizens, for our fellow man.

And most of us are passionate about how to accomplish that.

We know things like the Constitution lead to that good, and that's the reason we're so passionate about it.

But somewhere in there, our passion for the right to help people

gets twisted just a little bit.

Still driven by the same cause, we're willing to be

meaner, more combative.

And by we, I mean me.

I'm as guilty as anybody.

I think if we take a moment and recognize

that while we differ on

the method, we still want the same outcome.

I'm not sure our friends on the left give us enough do.

I think they really think that somehow we want some sort of society that we really don't want, that we really think oppressing people is good, we're really racist, whatever.

But I, for one, recognize most people on the left really want good stuff for people.

I believe they're misguided, but they want good stuff.

So maybe we take a step back as we count our blessings and say,

if we're trying to accomplish good things

for the right reasons, let's make sure our methods are still good.

I know how frustrating it is.

I live this every day.

I'm on the air with it.

I do the research.

I see the social media.

I live it every day.

And it's really frustrating.

But good is good.

Bad is bad.

Stay focused on the good.

Count your blessings.

Chef Patrick Mosier with us.

Obviously, a big favorite around the holidays.

So, do you cook on the holidays?

Do you cook for your family?

Because, you know, a lot of people, they don't want to bring their work home.

You know, mechanics, they don't work on their own cars quite often.

No, I mean, cooking for family and friends is really the reason that I do this.

I love the restaurant industry and all that goes with that, but it ultimately boils down to cooking for the ones you love.

Absolutely.

So you still do?

Okay.

I do.

You know, traditionally, I used to smoke one turkey and roast another one because we had such a big crowd.

Not so much anymore.

Not so much, a little smaller.

It's funny because, like I said, you're willing to cook even though that's your profession.

On the holidays, I don't say a word.

I'm like a mute.

I don't say a word.

I get up in the mornings.

Okay, everyone knows that's true.

In fact, it's just the opposite.

It's the same stuff here.

I'm doing the same stuff at home.

I'm challenging people.

They're challenging me.

Political debate.

I actually love good, solid political debate.

So, you know, it's family and friends.

I get it.

But it's interesting.

Yeah.

Now, when you are out and about, let's say you're at

a gathering, a cocktail party, you go to dinner with friends, whatever it is, and you're introduced to new people.

You're mingling.

When they find out you're a chef, they start asking you, don't they?

Immediately.

Immediately.

You know, how do you make a, I make this.

Have you ever, how do you, with the.

What's your specialty?

And when you, when I, when I, when I say Japanese food, it's interesting.

Ah,

because they don't know what to say.

White guy, Japanese food doesn't compute.

Plus, most people do not have a go-to Japanese dish.

Other than sushi, they don't know any other Japanese food.

Right.

Or miso soup.

Right, exactly.

So, or, or maybe some teriyaki, something like that.

Yeah, chicken teriyaki or the box ramen or whatever.

Right.

Yeah, I could say, because doctors, if they go to a party, as soon as people find out they're a doctor, they're like, I got this right on the back, the shoulder blade is really, can you take a look?

You know, I have these chest pains.

They're not really chest pains because if I push on it, it feels better.

And it's in my arm.

It's not in my chest.

Yeah.

Can you take a look at it?

I just, you know, here, let me vlop.

You know, just quick, quick, pop in the restroom with me.

Take a look at this.

They start unzipping their pants.

Here you go.

Look at this.

It's on down the side of my leg here.

Does this look infected to you?

No, right.

You're at dinner, right?

That's got to be horrible.

That is so that I do get captured quite often in the food conversation, but

it's it's still probably pretty good, though, because you're a passion of it.

Anyone that knows me knows that I love food.

You know, it has been my life for almost 30 years.

And I love to share knowledge and my passion for the food industry and teach people that the food, you know, everybody at some point in their life has said, wow, how cool would it be to own this restaurant?

Well, it probably would be cool, but it's also expensive,

exhausting.

If you're worth like, you know, $450 million and you start a small restaurant and you can lose $100,000 a year,

it's probably pretty cool.

You get to go in and mingle, you own the restaurant.

But when you've got to make it balance or profit, that's where it gets tricky, right?

It's a 24-7 business.

The margins in restaurants, the average margin now, I just found out the other day, used to be 7%.

The average restaurant makes 4%.

So traditionally in supermarkets, I'm going way back.

The margins,

was percent, percent and a half, 2%.

Yeah, it used to be 2.5% to 3%.

Now it's still around the one and a half percent range.

Okay, somewhere under one and a half percent.

At one point in broadcasting, because Telecommunications Act 1996 said that you could own more than radio stations that used to be able to own, I think at one point you could own across the country, like 17 or 20 or something like that, but you could only own one AM and or FM per city.

And then that broke down, said you could own four AMs, three Ms per market.

Yeah.

And that's what it is.

I remember when some of those sold, some of the stations I worked at, the profit margin was,

imagine if I told you it was 40%.

Would you think that's pretty good?

Based on what you're talking about, 360?

They were 70%.

Well, you know, more power to him.

I'm obviously in the wrong business.

No, because

the reason it was 70% because they didn't pay Doc Thompson.

That's cool.

They're like, sorry, kid, you can eat ramen.

By the way, where's my page?

Oh, wait, wait, wait.

They don't pay me either.

That's right.

They don't pay either, whatever.

So that has all changed somewhat, but yeah, you just get in on it and it works.

So talk a little bit about Thanksgiving and some of the other things that people search for by state.

And some of them seem pretty traditional, some of them not.

Give me some of the other ones, and maybe we'll hit your state here.

Indiana, peanut butter cookies.

Okay, that's kind of a holiday thing.

I could see that.

Not necessarily Thanksgiving.

Yeah, at least it's a cookie.

Pinwheels, that's also a cookie.

That's in Kansas.

Chicken and dumplings for Kentucky.

Cornbread dressing in Louisiana.

That makes sense.

Chicken pot pie in Maine.

Maryland, crab cakes.

You know what?

I think they search for that all the time in Maryland, though.

That's not just a holiday.

I think you're right.

Yeah, that's year-round because you can get them cheap.

Cheesecake for Massachusetts.

And New York.

And New York.

And being from New York, that's pretty common.

Makes sense.

Michigan is chili.

It's odd, odd choice.

Well, it's really cold up there.

It stays warm in the book.

Minnesota green bean casserole.

Does anybody else have that?

I don't think they do.

That's the only one.

I think think so.

What is chicken spaghetti in Mississippi, and I also think Texas, chicken spaghetti?

I found a few different recipes for that, and

it seems to be a kind of a baked chicken tetrazzini style dish, which I think you would just substitute turkey for that, but it's made with spaghetti

instead of turkey.

Missouri breakfast casserole.

That makes sense if you have guests over, something like that.

Oven-roasted vegetables for Montana.

Nevada, peanut butter cookies.

New Hampshire,

blueberry pie, New Hampshire.

Thank you, California.

Blueberry pie.

Although, blueberry is very popular in New Hampshire, Maine, up in that area.

So maybe

crab cakes in New Jersey, pecan pie in New Mexico, sweet potato pie in North Carolina, apple crisp in North Dakota.

That's an interesting one.

In both Ohio and West Virginia, Buffalo chicken dip.

Why not?

Have you ever had that?

Oh, yeah, it's awesome.

It's basically

awesome.

It is, yeah.

So it's been, correct me, it's shredded chicken with buffalo sauce.

sauce and then what's creamy is it uh so usually it's a mixture of cream cheese heavy cream and mayonnaise and it's layered in there is that now you mix the whole thing up and then they they bake it in the oven because that stuff is really soft served on baguette or toe and you know crackers whatever you have oklahoma pecan pie

i'm sorry pecan pie pecan pie whichever oregon uh bread stuffing pennsylvania also chicken dip that whole region ohio pennsylvania west virginia interesting you know what they probably just found out about about it.

Being from Ohio and relatives in West Virginia, they probably found out.

And West County's like, yeah, we did 30 years ago.

We're like, have you tried this new thing?

Which is interesting because Ohio is typically the test region.

I don't understand why, but it's the test region for new foods for the major food companies.

Yeah, Columbus, Ohio in particular, for some reason, demographically, it cuts across.

I think so.

All of them.

So you're Midwest, but you're also East.

You're Great Lakes.

You've got older communities, demographics.

You've got some new stuff.

just demographically, it's worked for them.

Well, you'd think so, but no candidate has ever won that's won the state of Iowa, so I don't understand the logic behind it.

Well, Ohio, no Republican has won without winning Ohio.

I think that's the history.

Anyway, so maybe you keep Ohio and Dumping.

So, yeah, Pennsylvania.

You also got South Carolina, sweet potato pie, pumpkin pie in South Dakota, sausage balls in Tennessee, just like Alabama.

You've got crescent recipes in Utah, I'm guessing crescent rolls, butternut soup, again, in Vermont, mac and cheese for Virginia, sugar cookies in Washington, and then shrimp in Wisconsin and Wyoming pork chops.

And then I left out three states.

New Hampshire.

No, I'm sorry.

New Hampshire?

Sorry.

Appreciate you being there, even though I screwed it up.

Nebraska, rather.

Nebraska, Rhode Island, and Iowa.

All search for something

that is an odd pick.

Cal, have you ever had monkey bread?

Is that brain?

No, monkey bread.

No, because you're thinking sweetbreads.

Yeah, sweet bread.

That's what's brain.

Actually, I have a cemetery gland, but yes, it's close.

Might as well be monkey.

It's made with only part of the monkey, not the entire monkey.

You're giving me the look.

Is it like

monkey?

Rocky mountain oysters.

Well, kind of.

So I'll tell you,

the Boy Scout, when we were in Boy Scouts and I was a Boy Scout leader, the boys would call it monkey balls instead of monkey bread.

But it has nothing to do with monkeys.

I don't know where the term came from.

from.

And what is it made of?

It's cinnamon bread.

Yeah, you take any kind of a canned biscuit or dough

and you cut it into little pieces and you make you roll it in between your hands into a ball form.

And then you make a caramel mixture.

So it's sugar and butter in the bottom of like a...

like a

roasting pan or something?

Now, what's the pan that you, oh, like an angel food cake pan?

Oh, yeah, something like a bunt cake pan.

Bunt cake, yeah.

Yeah, and then you put that mixture in there, and then you layer the balls, and you roll them in like cinnamon sugar, and you put them in there, and then you bake it, and you turn it out upside down.

It has this wonderful caramel gooey sauce that runs over it.

It's actually really good, yeah.

It's it's fantastic or whatever, but it seems like an odd pick for because it's not really a breakfast dish.

I mean, it can be more not as much like cinnamon roils.

But I would think that's what a lot of these searches are probably for something you can serve for breakfast that you can serve a lot of people with that doesn't take a lot of preparation.

But even this, though, this was more of like you said, camping or late at night, kind of a snacky thing.

Maybe people are using it for all of those, either breakfast or even a dessert then, I guess it could be used for that.

Yeah, I suppose.

I don't know.

It's just going to be a good one.

Although, you know what, though?

It's probably pretty simple to make for a sweet dessert or whatever you're going to use it for by comparison to some traditional pies and stuff.

Yeah, A, you don't have to make a dough.

You don't have to make the dough.

That's the thing.

B, everything else is really, it's sugar, butter, cinnamon.

That's pretty much the, those are all the other ingredients.

Yeah.

People can understand that, and you're right.

You just buy the.

So

you're already starting with the dough made, so that probably works really well.

That's interesting.

It's like the crescent recipes on the other

states, Alaska and

Utah.

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Glenn back

Glenn back.

Do you have any odd holiday traditions, Cal?

Cal joining me now regularly hurt on the morning blaze with me.

It's Doc Thompson in for Glenn today.

Any odd holiday traditions?

Are you pretty just standard?

Pretty standard, really.

Nothing too crazy.

Like one,

planes, trains, and automobiles, a tradition for a lot of people watching that because it's, you know, Thanksgiving based on Thanksgiving.

Others would watch over and over a Christmas story, certain things things you watch or doing.

So people were tweeting with the hashtag Weird Thanksgiving traditions.

I was cracking up.

One of them is a meme.

It says,

no need to post your Thanksgiving food.

We're all eating the same thing.

Isn't that true?

But that's Kevin.

Black comedian Kevin Younger.

Kevin Hart?

Kevin Hart, yeah.

That's what makes us just yeah.

He's like, hand up.

No need to post it.

We're all crossing

I mean, really sharing your food pics.

And I'm married to an Asian woman, so this is just my life.

I've accepted it.

I could see you're out to dinner, and I'm curious about what people add or something's good.

But you're right, Auntie, unless it's really a unique picture, or you have

we're all having turkey, guys.

I mean, right?

Yeah, I mean, it's, it is

that whole Pinterest photo.

Part of that's killing society, I want you to know.

Yeah.

Pinterest is killing us in so many ways.

Number one, unrealistic expectations.

You cannot make that stuff.

I'm telling you, you can't.

Well, some of us can.

Yeah, some of you can.

Most people cannot.

That's what I'm saying.

I'm talking to you, meaning, no, you can't.

99% cannot make it.

Pinterest provided so much free entertainment with the nailed it, which is really the failure.

Oh, yeah.

Incredible what a fail they are.

And then

people like, see, I couldn't do it.

I'm a failure.

And the women spending so much money.

And yes, this is primarily gender-driven.

My wife's got a whole like list of Pinterest stuff that she's going to do one day.

So I'm going to go one step further back.

I think that Martha Stewart really set the standard so high that I think she ruined society.

She, I'm going to, I'm going to love her.

I would say she's culpable in it, definitely culpable in the ruining society.

Yeah, Cal,

my wife tries those things.

Here's what happens, though.

I can work my way around the kitchen.

I mean, I fail at some things, but generally speaking, if I try, it's at least okay.

You know, it's okay.

It worked, it's edible.

It's, you know, my wife starts the project because it has to be for some place where we're going to take this to the Schnauzgrasses tomorrow night for their party.

And I'm like, what are you doing?

And she's in the middle of a failed project.

He goes, well, we got to go to Snawsgrasses.

What are you?

And I go, but what are you making?

Well, it's whatever.

I saw it.

I'm like, no,

there's no beef in pumpkin pie, just so you know sorry just beef broth just beef right exactly there there's you know no whatever and i'm she's like well i thought and i'm like okay there's no meat in mince meat honey there's no yeah seriously traditional yes in the meat pie right so finally i go all right you know i'll just do it and then it's last minute i'm running around doing this and this so i get just she's gonna do the projects she starts them i actually finish and then she tweets out a picture

I'm like, okay.

Good.

I doubt you get any credit in that picture.

No, and that's fine.

I'm like, can you just tell me ahead of time so I can plan for this?

Because I'll actually go out to make sure I have, you know, coconut oil or whatever it is I'm going to need for it.

Hey, can I go to celebrity?

What was the celebrityxcuse generator.com?

What was that?

Apology to everybody.

Apology, yeah, celebrity.

Because Goddess Martha is very powerful.

I'm sorry, Goddess Martha, that if I in any way, shape, or form offended you or insinuated that you are the downfall of society.

You have been nothing more than uplifting and inspirational to me and all of those in the food industry and those in the general public.

I hereby retract my statement fully.

Thank you very much.

Please forgive me.

It was based purely on malice.

It was no touching.

I overdosed on coffee and lack of sleep.

We'll just put it.

We'll chalk it up to that.

Thank you.

Cal, what was it your wife purchased?

Adult coloring books?

What?

The adult coloring books.

Oh, yeah.

Yes.

Clean her out.

She bought these adult coloring books.

Okay, like for adults or adult?

Not like as in, like, in the middle.

Just making sure.

Yeah, yeah, making sure you bought like just okay.

No, no, no.

It's just like.

Yeah, you go through a lot of flesh-colored crayons.

Exactly.

It's like

you don't need the 64 back.

You need two.

No, no, no.

These are for adults.

No solicit material here.

Alyssa, Miss.

But yeah, she's like,

I'm like, why are you buying?

She's like, these help me relax.

I like the color.

It helps me relax.

There are groups of adults that sit and color together.

Oh, yeah, this is a whole thing.

They're like really intricate patterns, and like, it's a, it's a thing.

And I'm like, you're never going to use those.

Why do you have to stifle me?

Why are you always bringing her down, Cal?

Why do you do that to her?

Spent, like, I don't know, like $75 on these books.

Hold it.

Hold it.

They were ridiculously overpriced.

Did she get a thousand of them?

No, I think there was like four or five.

They were like $30 each.

Oh, my gosh.

Okay.

And the set of pencils are very expensive to go with it.

And

they have yet to leave the bag that they were.

So, So, how long ago did she purchase the adult coloring books?

Almost, I'd say about a year ago.

She's going to get to them.

Yeah.

She's going to get to them.

They help her relax, huh?

They do.

They help.

Every time I'm like, so why don't you color?

Well, you have a second child.

I don't have time, okay?

Well, the child was born three months ago, right?

Well, then, why did you buy it back in the day?

You don't have time for it.

They help her relax.

Exactly.

Okay, this adult coloring books.

Here's what you do.

If you really are driven to color, go buy a $2 coloring book for kids and just color snoopy or whatever the hell it's going to be 75 on seriously helping you relax do you know how many how much drugs you can buy without how much pot

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If you have an Etsy or a Facebook account that you do most of your business on, you're selling stuff or products or services, consider

buying for $10 a domain name that is easy to remember and then just forwarding that to your Facebook or Etsy account because those get really complicated to try to, okay, it's I sell bacon in favor of veterans plus soap on something with teal day underscore at facebook.com.

It's a little hard to remember all of that.

So just, you know, do like cow'swebsite.com or something like that, and it'll be easy to promote.

Use the hashtag BuildingAmerica.

You can start using that now on Twitter.

And then anybody that you hear on the air will tweet out a link in real time as they're like, okay, here's my website.

Here's what we do.

So you can just follow along that way.

And then after the fact, if you forget, you're like, oh, I wanted to find out about that.

What was that gun website they have?

You can just go and look it up later.

If you don't get through, same thing.

Tweet out your business with the hashtag Building America and people will begin to search through that as well.

It's just something we like to do on Black Friday, promote capitalism, entrepreneurship, and hopefully encourage more and more people that in the coming years, you're likely not going to have one job that sustains you and your family.

Glenn's talked about this a lot.

There's probably going to be multiple streams of income, making a little bit here, a little bit there, and you're just going to be

charged with the task of finding a way.

It's the gig economy.

It's a gig economy.

It's a new world.

You're going to, you know, maybe you farm a little bit to take care of some of your produce needs.

You do this part-time job, that part-time job, you know, certain days, whatever it is.

You have a little side side business.

This is going to help you.

One of the hardest things today

is to get promoted.

One of the first, one of the most significant things when starting a business is marketing.

And yet it's one of the things people usually don't spend money on.

So you have a great product or service.

It's out there ready to go.

And nobody knows you're there.

And if you're waiting for online, everybody else is doing, you know, social media now as well.

So you're inundated.

You're not going to break through.

At least when you had a brick and mortar store back in the day, people would hang a shingle out, a sign.

Oh, there's a new pizza place or Bob's TVs or whatever it is.

You're not seeing that now on the internet unless you find a way to break out, right?

Absolutely.

You know, and that's one of the things I talk about to new businesses all the time is you may have an

extremely unique product and a really great target audience that's giant, that really needs your product, but you spend more in marketing launching a product than you do in product development and

developing the name and the brand.

It's really difficult if you don't know what to do.

And again, we've talked about this before.

This is a great format for people to get exposure at zero cost.

It costs you the few moments it takes to dial the number.

Oh, and do you know

what it would cost?

Based on the reach of this broadcast, millions of people.

I mean, for the people that advertise it.

I mean, it's worth it, but for the average person, if you don't have that money while you're starting a business, if you don't have that capital to invest in it, I mean, it's an investment.

It works, but it's difficult for you upfront to put that money out there but this is also part of content where everybody wants that information they're trying to hear products and services and they're happy to help you you know your business so yeah friday morning it's uh 888-727 beck tell your friends and family right now at dinner tomorrow say listen Cousin Pete, you got that whatever business or whatever?

I heard this guy in the Glenn Beck program say tomorrow morning he's going to be giving free commercials.

You dial him up there.

And you can follow me on Twitter at Doc Thompson Show.

I'll be promoting that tomorrow and Friday so you don't forget.

Follow Glenn.

It's at Glenn Beck, two ends, by the way, in Glenn.

And we're going to get this thing done.

So I can call in on Friday.

You'll give me 60 seconds, Doc.

Yes, I will.

I'll give you 60 seconds right now.

It's foodbizpro.com.

You need a business consultant.

It's Patrick Mosier.

Can you tell us a little bit about yourself?

Yeah, so I've been in the business about 29 years, the restaurant business.

Okay, I got to hold it right there.

These people don't know how to market.

It's not about 29.

It's about 30.

About 30.

Or it's about 25.

I've been in the restaurant business 30 years.

About 30.

Was that a question?

I did raise my voice again, didn't I?

So if it's 29,

exactly,

you say, yeah, about when it's round numbers, right?

Yeah.

So anyway.

Like Cal is about 300 pounds.

About, right?

You know, give or take.

The hundred pounds.

150.

All right.

Yeah, so during my career as a chef, I've specialized in opening restaurants.

And I realized I have a real talent for that.

And I went the consulting route about five years ago.

Well, 10 years officially, but five years full-time.

And now I lend my expertise to first-time restaurant owners or people that are looking to expand or improve their operations.

And I try to bring a systematic approach to restaurants that gives the independent operator the advantages that chains and large operators have in looking at their costs on a daily basis and understanding what they mean and putting systems in place to control those.

Patrick also consults for non-food industry businesses as well, so, or food service industry.

So just go to foodbizpro.com, foodbizpro.com, and I'll tweet out a link.

All right, finally, let's talk turkey.

Yes.

Literally.

These fads pop up from year to year.

Some of them, you know, the deep-fried turkeys and different ways to do turkey and whatever.

Some of them work.

Some of them are good.

Some of them, it's like, maybe the effort isn't really worth it.

Turkeys are traditionally pretty simple to cook.

Sorry to let the cat out of the bag for those of us that, no, no, I'll cook and people think you're laboring away in there.

Turkeys are pretty basic, pretty simple to cook, right?

They are, yeah.

Just time, right?

You need

a lot of time, 30 minutes per pound, 20 to 30 minutes per pound.

And, or, wow, 15 to 20 minutes per pound.

And then a way to keep it moist.

That's it.

And the moist would be either roasting pan, basting, these type of things.

If you're basting, the roasting bags.

The roasting bags work amazingly well.

They're awesome.

They are.

You don't have to baste whatever.

And then you may lose a little skin when you take the bag off, but

if you shake the flour in there, like the directions say, it really produces a very moist and excellent turkey.

Yeah, it's amazing.

I use those all the time now.

You put the slits in there, and that helps keep it inflated.

And if you're really worried about, you know, like you said, the skin, you can put a couple of toothpicks in there.

It also keeps it from steaming in the bag, right?

It allows some of the steam to escape, so you're not steaming it.

You're actually still roasting it in the bag.

But that picture, what's that picture you have on the bag?

Okay, so here it is.

So one of the recent fads, and I got to ask you about this, is a bacon-wrapped turkey.

It's an intricate lattice work of bacon.

And I'll tweet out a link to the picture.

So imagine you line up, you know, a dozen pieces of bacon one way and then a dozen piece the other way, and you weave it into like a basket pattern.

You take that layer of bacon, put it over the outside of the turkey, wrapping it around, and then roasting it like that.

Is this a gimmick?

Is this worth the effort?

It looks awesome.

It's bacon, for Pete's sake.

Do I dare suffer the wrath?

The bacon wrath of the Patrick is a well-known bacon hater.

No, no, no.

I said I'm baconed out a little bit, but you know, I do love bacon.

If you're not in the bacon, listen, you're either with us or against us.

I'm with you.

Okay, that's what I'm saying.

There's no.

What is that website again?

Celebrity.

Apology.

Yeah.

Generator.com.

Yes.

Yeah, you're either with us or against us.

There is no borderline with bacon.

Those of us that are bacon fans, you're with us or against us.

No, you're all

over turkey.

Yeah, it's just too much sometimes.

But

after we had this discussion last week about bacon and turkey, I actually was watching The Chew the other day, the television show The Chew, which I don't watch very often, but I do like some of the recipes they come up with.

And I saw them doing this.

And, you know, it is really a good way to add a lot of flavor to the turkey because it's naturally bland, unless you season underneath the skin or inject it or season the heck out of the inside and the outside.

But I could see how this is a natural flavor enhancer and it bastes bastes it from the outside in because it's rendering the fat from the bacon and it's just not just dripping off it's attached to the turkey so how can that not be a good thing yeah and it's it completely wraps around the turkey so you have

a natural way to keep the juice in that works um would the bacon become too crisp um because i'll bake bacon sometimes if i'm going to put it in something that's easier that you know 45 minutes or whatever it is to bake it up crisp like that you're talking about a turkey that may be in the oven like three hours.

Yeah, so what I would do is I would actually start out covered so that you're not either with the roasting pan lid or tent it with foil.

Okay.

So that you're basting it by rendering the fat but not crisping the bacon.

And then maybe the last 30 to 45 minutes would be a little bit more difficult.

Would that keep it from crisping the bacon if you tent it and something like that?

Yeah, because it's keeping the steam inside.

Oh, okay, that's what it is.

All right.

Yeah, that was the first question I have.

Now,

part of the turkey would theoretically become a little bacon flavored, and there's nothing wrong with that.

No.

Because it's not going to be enough where it's like, well, I would just eat bacon then.

It would just add a little smoky.

I would probably try a smoked bacon or something.

Would you?

Yeah, I wouldn't use anything sweet like

the Applewood smoked.

Get something like traditional hickory smoked.

Okay, so that adds a little cured.

And if you don't like cured bacon because you don't like the sulfites, you can get uncured bacon.

They actually use celery juice to cure it, but it tastes just like regular cured.

In fact, let me pause and say, too, when I've been on the whole 30 diet at times, I've looked for uncured bacon, stuff that doesn't have the nitrates or whatever, and even some without the sugar.

And it is as good or better.

It's really good.

It's amazing.

There's a couple of brands, but the one that I know is Peterson's.

Peterson's.

Is that with a D, though?

Peter?

Peter.

P-E-I-D.

Peterson's or Peterson's.

It was with a D, though, but look it up.

And I'll tweet.

I'll link to that too.

You can probably find it on there.

They have a really good product.

I mean, it's going to be more expensive than bacon, regular bacon.

It is really good.

But it is awesome and it's going to be pretty healthy for you.

You don't have to worry about the nitrates in there.

Yeah.

And something about the antibacterial properties of celery.

Yeah, it cures the bacon in almost the same manner.

I mean, it comes out to be now.

Is it as good as a really slow in-house cured smoked bacon?

No, but it's really a close second.

I'm giving, I love it.

So, okay, so if you use a smoked bacon and you wrap the turkey that way, so that would work as long as the bacon's not too crisp, because then you also get the bacon.

You'd still be able to slice this off and just have the turkey, or you can have the turkey and bacon together.

So that would all work.

One other potential problem: if you're taking the drippings in the bottom of the pan, now you're going to have a pretty strong bacon-flavored gravy.

Yeah, so you may want to have a chicken stock or some reserved turkey stock from the year before out of the freezer ready to make your bacon.

Now, it could work.

It could work that way.

It would work.

But just as long as you're cool with a strong bacon-flavored gravy.

Yeah, and you know, the turkey gives off, you know, a half a gallon or more of liquid

when you're baking it.

So there's a lot of liquid.

And the ratio of fat to, you know, if you skim the fat, I spoke about earlier on the morning show,

you could skim the fat off and use not as much fat, just make it from the actual juices from the turkey because there's not really a lot of liquid that comes out of the bacon.

It's just fat.

All right, Patrick, I've talked myself into it.

You're going to do it.

I've talked myself in.

I may do a second smaller turkey with the bacon to try it, to test it out.

I think I'm going to try it.

Or grab a chicken or, like I said, a Cornish gamehand and try it the first time.

It'd be cool, though, to do it with the turkey, though.

Nah, yeah, you get a 12-pounder.

And we like the leftover turkey anyway.

So

do you think

I weave it, like I said, flat on a counter and then lift it up and drape it over as opposed to trying to weave on the turkey?

Yeah, I would just do it on the counter, drape it over the top, tuck it under so it's tight underneath, and then

cut a hole where the cavity is that you would put your onion in.

So you can still do that.

Do you think I still stuff it, though, if I wrap it in bacon?

I think I'm avoiding the stuffing.

Not with traditional stuffing because you're not supposed to do that anymore anyway, so you don't, because the interior of the bird doesn't reach the right temperature.

So the outside's really dry and the interior never reaches 165, which is what kills the salmonella.

Right.

So I would, but I would stuff it with celery, carrots, and onions.

But I like the idea of

the bird cooking faster.

It cooks much slower with the stuffing.

And you also have to cook it longer.

Absolutely.

So this way, I don't have to cook it as longer, so then the bacon wouldn't crisp up as much.

Let me get a quick break in.

Doc Thompson, in for Glenn Beck.

Glenn Beck.

Glenn Back.

Lots of tweets coming in at Doc Thompson's show.

I've tweeted out a couple of things.

I tweeted out a picture to the bacon wrap turkey, and you can see that for yourself.

It's at Doc Thompson's show.

And I think Patrick at Food Biz Pro just tweeted out a twink,

tweeted a link to Peterson's bacon.

Yes, sir.

So it's sugar-free and nitrate-free.

Yeah, which is awesome.

So I'll retweet that in a minute as well.

A couple other tweets coming to TMB Saddletramp tweeting, $75 for coloring books.

Do you know how much whiskey you could buy with that?

And whiskey relationships, I know how much

I could buy with that, okay?

Yeah, but whiskey helps you relax, as he points out.

Yeah.

And then Stephen English tweeting, $75 for coloring books to help you relax because you just gave me a stroke.

Uh-huh.

And hemorrhoids.

Oh, my gosh.

Jim just tweeted something that is either one of the funniest practical jokes and also something you'll likely get a divorce.

He suggested you wrap up those unused coloring books for

that be a pretty good idea.

I think you should do it.

And Filmer opening it up.

You have to do that.

Let's see here.

Casserly tweeting, just tuned in to at Glenn Beck Show.

I swear I thought I was listening to the Butterball Hotline for Cooking Mr.

Turkey.

Turkey, my turkey, sorry.

Yes, but you say that like it's a bad thing.

It's not a butterball hotline.

We don't say just butterballs, you know.

Let's see.

Let's see.

Wesley tweeting, turkey in a bag, 210 degrees, 22 hours, no carving required.

No, 22 hours, that seems long, although he's only talking 210 degrees.

Is that a joke?

You know what?

You know what?

Actually, if you, you can,

210 is like smoking temperature for me.

Yeah, maybe that's what he's going for.

All right.

All right.

Have yourself a happy Thanksgiving.

My best wishes to you and your family.

I hope you will take a moment and count your blessings.

I think that's the key to the future.

And make sure to make your plans now to join us Friday morning on the morning blaze, theblazeradio.com.

We'll continue some of this discussion, tell you how the holiday went, and then Glenn back program on Friday.

Free commercials for you on Black Friday.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Glenn back.