8/1/17 - The 4 sides of Donald Trump (Amy Fabbrini & Tom Doyle join Glenn)

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Scaramuch, Scaramouch, we found out yesterday he indeed can do the Fandango.

He is out at the White House.

Huge upset.

You know all of the details by now.

We'll recap them quickly, but I want to tell you what it means.

More predictability, more stability.

There is a fight in the White House, and I'm going to show you what the next two and six years may look like.

We begin right now.

I will make a stand, I will raise my voice, I will hold your hand.

Cause we are one,

I will beat my drum,

I have made my choice, we will overcome,

cause we are one.

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This is the Glenn Beck program.

We have an incredible show for you today.

If you missed yesterday's program, go back and listen to our number three.

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But I will tell you that yesterday, the

incredible interview that we did with the guy who's a listener of ours, 70-some years old.

He

in the 1940s was raised,

you know, obviously as a boy.

His grandmother started cross-dressing him.

Then his uncle started to sexually abuse him.

His father used to beat him.

He became in the 1980s one of the first

to go transgender and have the surgery here in America.

Then years later, he switched back.

And boy, is he wise,

very politically incorrect, but a fascinating interview.

Today is going to be very much the same.

Amy Fabrini is on with us.

Now, she's a mother who has had her children taken from her by the state of Oregon because the state of Oregon says she has too low of an IQ to be able to raise her own children.

She does have an IQ in the 70s.

She's going to be with us along with her advocate in hour number two.

Hour number three is another amazing person, Tom Doyle, who

has been studying the Christians in the Middle East

who are literally standing in the fire.

An amazing, amazing show for you today.

You don't want to miss a second.

Let's get right to the news of the day, which was

Yesterday, Donald Trump fires Scaramucci,

who

was, I would like to say, was a friend of Donald Trump, but he really wasn't a friend of Donald Trump.

Here is Scaramucci

at the beginning of the campaign in 2015 talking about Donald Trump.

I'm moving around paper right now, Maria, but that's another hack politician.

You call Donald Trump a hack politician.

He's a hack politician.

He's probably going to make Elizabeth Warren his vice presidential nominee with comments like that.

Do you think he's a political person?

It's anti-American.

It's very, very divisive.

Do you think Donald's a political?

You can tell Donald, I said this, the Queens County Bullies Association.

You've got to cut it out now and stop all this crazy rhetoric spinning everybody's family.

I'm talking about how you say that now, but I've had a problem with the way he talked about women for years.

And now

I don't like the way he talks about women.

I don't like the way he talks about our friend Megan Kelly.

And you know what?

The politicians don't want to go at Trump because he's got a big mouth and he's afraid he's going to light him up on Fox News and all these other places.

But I'm not a politician Bringing

it to me.

Here's an amazing thing.

Here's a guy who's on television saying, I don't like the way he talks.

And oh my gosh, have you seen the two interviews that he gave in 10 days while at the White House?

This guy

is a fascinating dude.

His wife has left him because of his, they say, I don't believe this, because of his obsession with working at the White House with Donald Trump.

He sold his company to work with Donald Trump.

He was the main fundraiser for Donald Trump.

After saying those things, the main fundraiser for Donald Trump goes to work for 10 days.

His wife doesn't even want him at the birth of their second child.

He's not invited in.

They're still married.

This guy, there's something really wrong with this guy.

And I think that's why the White House embraced him.

Donald Trump likes street fighters, and this guy is a street fighter, as we found.

So what happened after 10 days?

Why did he find himself out of the White House and what does it mean?

Yesterday, I started working on a chalkboard.

We did it, kind of threw it together yesterday for the TV show, and we were working on it as the Scarmucci thing unfolded.

We started earlier in the morning and then the Scarmucci thing happened, which none of us saw coming.

And

I had to, you know,

it's airtime, so I go on the air, and it wasn't quite right.

I want to share this.

If you happen to have a subscription to the Blaze TV, go there now.

This is an important chalkboard,

and I'll try to explain it to you fully in radio.

It's easier to understand if you can see it, but let me explain what I believe is coming in 2018 and 2020 beyond.

So what comes next?

What does all of this mean?

I believe this is

what comes next is predictability.

I think this is going to help us be able to see where the president is headed.

And I believe some of the clown elements

of this White House are going to come to an end because it's not just Donald Trump.

It is Reinz Priebus.

Anyone could walk into the Oval Office at any time while Reinz Priebus was there.

That's insanity.

Everybody needs to go through the

chief of staff.

You just don't walk into the Oval Office.

So it was a clown show.

It was very divided.

By bringing General Kelly in, it's going to add stability.

General Kelly is one of the most amazing generals in the history of our country.

The Marine Corps loves him for a reason.

He's a good, honorable, loyal guy who brought order to the Marine Corps.

So I want to explain the four sides of Donald Trump.

And I want to explain why I think these things are coming and what all of this means.

But let me first say, General Kelly, the reason why I think he took this job.

He has no political experience working and wrangling Capitol Hill and trying to get all of the, you know, votes and knowing exactly who the president should be talking.

That's not his skill.

He's a general.

It's not his skill.

That's what the president was hoping from Reintz Priebus, that he'd be able to wrangle Capitol Hill.

But we've also seen in the actions of the president, he doesn't really care about that either.

He just wants it, just give me some bills to sign.

He's not actively involved in the bills.

He's just a guy who's like, okay, tell me what you got.

Here's where I want to go.

Tell me what you got.

I'll help you if I can.

You know, I'll tweet some things.

I'll give a speech, whatever.

But he's not actively involved.

This is always an important role for chief of staff.

to be able to connect the White House with the party.

The general doesn't have that.

The general doesn't want that.

This is a general who is a legend.

Why would he step into a job that he wouldn't like, wouldn't really want,

and

in a place that you have a good chance of failing just because you're watching the last six months.

Had an argument with somebody at the studios on, you know, just a friendly discussion, with somebody at the studios Friday night

before General Kelly.

Guy came in and he said, I think they're going to, I think Donald Trump thinks that General Kelly is going to do it.

And I said, he'll do it.

He said, no, he won't.

He has no experience.

He wouldn't want that.

Why would he step down?

Because it's the commander-in-chief who is in trouble

while the country is in trouble.

And the commander-in-chief is coming to him and saying, I need your help.

And Kelly can wrangle.

Look,

it's like kids have taken over the White House.

And I think he can make those kids, shut up, sit down.

You're coming through me.

This is the President of the United States, the Commander-in-Chief, knock it off.

It's not about you, it's about the country.

I think he can do that in spades.

And when his commander-in-chief said, I need you.

And I need you to do this, I think Kelly said, okay, but listen, we're doing this my way.

I ran the Marine Corps.

I can run this house, but I can't if you usurp me.

If you go around

and you don't follow what I need, what I need is everything must run through me.

And I have final say.

I will consult with you.

I'll tell you where I'm thinking.

But if I need to make a decision, I'm making a decision and you got to back me up.

I think because Donald Trump, there is a part of Donald Trump that really likes the honor of the military, likes the way the military operates, and I think he also gets by default the respect of men he respects,

and they treat him the way Donald Trump expects to be treated.

Yes, sir.

Good or bad, no judgment there.

That's what Donald Trump likes.

He respects our military.

He believes our military is full of good guys.

He likes the honor of that.

But he's also getting by default that, yes, sir, no questions asked.

You are the commander-in-chief.

Yes, sir.

And he loves that.

So he gave that deal to John Kelly.

When John Kelly saw the latest outburst by Mooch,

he had to have had a conversation with the president and say, Mr.

President, this is craziness.

We can't have this kind of stuff.

And he's a loose cannon.

He's got to fall in line.

And Donald Trump most likely said to him, do what you want.

I made that deal with you.

Now,

this is a very big one, I think.

And it's going to work out to, I think, Donald Trump's favor in some ways.

Whether Donald Trump eventually sees it that way, I don't know.

But if it works out, it will only strengthen General Kelly, which will only make what I'm about to tell you even more predictable.

So I do think it happened exactly the way it has been described by some sources, where Mooch came to him and said, I don't work for you.

Yes, you do.

Get out.

And had him escorted out.

Why would you escort him out?

Because A, you think he's a loose cannon, and B, you think he might try to make a B line for the president.

I want to show everybody in this building,

I have the authority.

I have the authority.

And what I say goes.

Now, there are people in the White House that are celebrating that.

And there are people in the White House who do not like that, especially people like Steve Bannon, who we'll get to in a minute.

Steve Bannon and, you know,

General Mattis, General

McMaster, and General Kelly, they're not fans of the Bannon wing.

But that's an important part of Donald Trump's psyche.

And I want to stop there and then take it and pick it up.

And I will tell you

the four pieces of Donald Trump, how they all fit together,

who's playing what role,

and how this John Kelly move and what's been happening with the GOP on healthcare makes Donald Trump more predictable.

And you may like it, you may not like it, but

I believe it to be what is coming our way, good or bad.

And we'll do that in just a second.

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He just got back from Afghanistan.

And God bless those guys.

But we're having dinner, and I said, Have you seen the latest with the ICBM?

And he said, Yeah, now that can meet, that can hit Hawaii and

Alaska.

And I said, No, no, no, this one can hit New York.

This one is the full ICBM

and can carry the payload of

a full-fledged nuclear bomb.

We are entering the times where we could see a city vaporized.

I don't think we are going to see that.

I hope to God we're not going to see that.

But nobody can predict Kim Jong-un.

Nobody knows where he's at.

I would think a Cold War would be fine with Kim Jong-un.

But we don't know, and that was the red line that we said he can't cross.

The president said, don't worry, we're going to deal with them.

In what way?

In what way?

Everything I've seen, everything that I've seen ends with at least a million dead in the first day.

How do you do this?

Times are very, very unstable.

Did you read the

report on bonds from Alan Greenspan that came out yesterday?

Oh my gosh, he's the stock market's fine.

That's real.

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I just want to take 727 Beck.

Let me explain what comes next, and I believe predictability from the president.

The president is split into four sections, and people look at this as the Bannon bubble, or the family bubble, or the, you know, the generals bubble or the GOP bubble.

It's not.

Look at it and separate it into four, but let's look at it as this.

You have the story bubble, and in the story bubble are Steve Bannon, Steve Miller, Sebastian Gorka, Mike Flynn, Mooch.

Now, these guys don't necessarily have to get along with each other, but they are the people that Donald Trump is not loyal to at all.

He's loyal to them until they're no longer useful.

But these are the people who are the wet works.

These are the people who he says, how am I going to get them?

How do I win?

And they're the story people.

They're the ones who get the dirt.

They're the ones who do the hatchet jobs.

They're the ones that do all the dirty work.

Because there is a part of Donald Trump that's only about winning and it's win at all cost.

So this is his win-it-all cost people.

And I would include some members of the press in the right

in this win at all costs do and say whatever you have to do

and it's important to remember

he's not loyal to any of these people

unless they're really effective and even if they're effective if some other higher priority comes in you're dead

then the other side of the story win at all cost is use every tool win at all costs and use every tool tool.

This is where he makes alliances like Reince Priebus, Sean Spicer,

and Mike Pence.

Mike Pence is the only one that hasn't faded in his usefulness, the GOP.

Donald Trump wanted to be president.

He always thought he was going to run as a Democrat.

He ended up running as a Republican and he embraced the leadership of the GOP.

That's done.

That's done.

Because he doesn't need them anymore.

They're actually hurting him at this point.

So what you're going to see first is the useful idiots are going to be the GOP.

They're disposable and they're going to be made into the villains by the storyline writers

and the performers.

They will get them at all costs.

And in 2018, 2020, you're going to see a two-pronged war going on.

You're gonna see the press is the villain and the GOP, with an exception of a few, is the villain that he will run against.

That's the political storyline, but what's deeper than that is more important.

We get to that next.

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All right.

So what comes next?

We saw the firing of Mooch yesterday by John Kelly.

Yes, he's got plenty of time to do that now.

John Kelly, I told you earlier, was a coat of honor kind of guy and has loyalty to Trump as the commander-in-chief.

He's loyal to America.

And I think Trump likes that.

He likes the military guys.

And he likes the ultimate.

I mean, what's more powerful?

A guy who

has troops behind him, like Kelly, or a guy who builds buildings?

I think Trump has real respect for people who can lead soldiers into battle.

Okay?

That's all good.

I think he has that respect for them.

And he also gets the stroking of the cat, which he likes, of somebody is treating him like President of the United States with real honor and integrity.

Yes, sir, Mr.

President.

Trump likes that.

I just put in useful idiots.

You know,

Reince Priebus, Sean Spicer, the press is playing a useful idiot right now.

They are going to be the storyline.

They are going to be the villains.

But I took Mike Pence out of that because I believe Mike Pence.

The word is that Mike, everybody badmouths Donald Trump.

All of the people in his cabinet, everybody else, apparently all badmouths Donald Trump.

This guy's crazy.

He's out of control, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, except for Mike Pence.

Behind closed doors, not a word.

Always, he's the president of the United States.

I'm going to move him into the loyal code of honor camp.

I think he may not be a useful idiot.

I think he may actually have the respect of the president because he's never, he's come on board, he is the vice president, and he's treating that as a constitutional honor.

So

if you look at Donald Trump and you look at

his priorities,

his priority is to his family, the loyalty to his family,

and then the ruthlessness of winning is

just him.

It's been him forever.

He will win.

You're going to get tired of winning.

He will win and he will do do what he has to do to destroy his enemy and he will win.

So number one, personality trait of Donald Trump, he is loyal to his family.

Number two, he is ruthless to his enemies.

Number three,

he likes law and order.

He said it in how many speeches it is how he like.

It's my way or get the hell out.

So he likes that law and order.

And four

the fourth side of him is just you know

i'll use every tool in the box to get to protect my family or to get things done okay

so let's let's in let's focus now instead of on two and four win at all costs and use every tool

let's concentrate now on what's coming in

in number one and number three.

Because remember, box win at all costs.

Number two, use every tool, the pawns, GOP, whoever gets in his way, the press.

Number four, that's just about winning.

That's just about the election.

When you get to the box about loyalty with his family and enforcement, this starts to go into who he really is.

His family, no one is going to split him from his family, and he is not going to...

His family,

i i'm convinced and especially with what we found out last night about the um the writing of the email exchange with russia that was the president that did that not donald trump jr and not the family he is going to be on the front line for his family that could i mean in a worst case scenario that has made the president vulnerable to you know it's not going to go to jail time but but serious investigation of cover-up that's really bad you don't do that for anybody except family

so

he is true and he is loyal when it comes to policies I truly believe he's agnostic he doesn't care he's never thought of these things And that's not a bad thing.

He's a builder.

He's a real estate mogul.

He's a guy who spent his time just trying to build an empire for real estate.

So he looks at the law as, you know, what do I have to do to get this done?

I want to get this done.

That's the way he's always looked at things.

He gets his policies, really,

his roots, I think, from his family, past generations, and his children.

And he looks at his children as very smart,

you know, especially Ivanka, Ivanka, as a leader of the family and somebody who knows what's right and is good and is decent.

Well, those policies, the family, they are liberal.

If you look, if you put somebody, you look into the family bubble, you will find Gary Cohn.

Gary Cohn really is in the family bubble.

He's a Democrat.

Now

let's go from his loyalty to his family to the other side of him that is real, and that is the enforcement.

That is

the code of ethics for the military.

He doesn't like losing.

He doesn't like being embarrassed.

And he's the president of the United States.

And I do believe he also knows the country is in trouble, and the country has real enemies.

And that's why he likes Mattis and Kelly and McMaster, because they'll wipe him out.

Those are your two power structures that are going to end up winning with Donald Trump.

The generals and the family.

Put all your chips there.

The generals should make him more predictable and the family as well.

You'll see, I think, this president start to settle into more of a predictable pattern unless

his win-it-all costs or just unpredictable side just cannot handle somebody like John Kelly.

Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump, Gary Cohn, Donald J.

Trump Jr.,

they're liberals, they're progressives.

If you're destroying the GOP, How are you going to get anything done?

Now, I celebrate the fact that he's destroying the GOP.

Good.

They need to.

But if he's destroying the GOP, how are you going to get anything passed?

You need something passed.

I believe Ivanka and Jared are dealmakers.

I believe those guys can meet with leaders of the other side and say, look,

you guys have goals.

We have goals.

Our dad wants to make America great.

He wants to do,

he wants legislation on health care.

The GOP couldn't get anything done.

You've heard my dad.

He believes in a single payer system that the government pays for.

So there's lots of places here that we can get together.

This won't really begin to happen until after 2018 when the GOP is completely destroyed and they just they've you know lost the House and or the Senate.

When that happens, then you're going to see

Ivanka becoming very, very important on Capitol Hill and Jared becoming popular on Capitol Hill and talking about progressive policies.

That will, if the Democrats

love

their policies more than they hate Donald Trump, they will work with him.

But that's a big if.

Everybody just hates Donald Trump and they'll shoot.

I mean, John McCain, he'll just shoot his own feet off.

Doesn't matter.

The next one is enforcement.

We are a world at war,

and the president likes enforcement.

I'm sorry.

You may disagree with me, but I do not believe the president was joking when

he said to the police officers, you know what?

You don't have to put your head on there, just you don't have to treat them all so well if you're arresting criminals or illegals.

I don't believe that he actually means, hey, go bloody their head up, but he is a guy who's like, get it done.

And

I'm less worried about you

than I am them.

What I believe is coming in 2018 is a war on the GOP and a war on the press.

By 2020, it will be a war on the press, a war on the GOP, and the possibility of working together with the Democrats to try to get him to win 2020 for the next election.

He needs to have wins.

If the GOP doesn't get their act together and put some things on his desk that he can sign, they're in the dustbin of history.

And you have a chance of a president moving liberal, progressive policies that are really at the core of who he is because of his children.

That will come.

The other thing,

because the power structure is Mattis, Kelly, and McMaster, who I respect,

and because of the way

Syria, Iran, Russia, Turkey, ISIS, Afghanistan,

North Korea.

Have I missed anybody who wants to kill us?

Because those things are heating up, I believe you're going to see in the next four to eight years serious war

and serious enforcement from this president.

Good or bad.

That's what I think is coming.

And the worse the conditions get on the ground in America and abroad, the more that enforcement arm

will come into play.

And the more

the

code of honor and loyalty will become.

They will enforce the law, and I believe he believes they will enforce his will.

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I'm really anxious and at the same time fearful of talking to Amy Fabrini, who is on with us next.

She is the mother of two children that have been taken away from her because the state of Oregon declared that her and her partner are intellectually incapable of raising children.

Now, the person that worked for the state

who did the evaluation came back and said, no, they're not.

They're very loving and it's it's fine.

They're totally fine.

She was fired by the state.

And the speculation is

because she was for keeping the children.

The father of Amy

is against her keeping the children.

But does IQ

stop, is that a new

banner here that if you have a low IQ, you can't raise your own children?

Her IQ, by the way, is in the 70s.

Really?

You can't be a mother?

And in the 70s?

We are headed towards a place where I think it was Oliver Wendell Holmes,

the Supreme Court justice, has said three generations of idiots or what was it?

Imbeciles.

Imbeciles.

Three generations of imbeciles is enough.

Sterilize them.

That was just after he'd met Jeffy.

And

so I think that was somewhat understandable.

Right.

I mean, what else?

You can't make the decision medically, no matter how smart you are.

You can't be informed if your children want to have

a

children want to have an abortion.

They're pregnant.

They don't have to come to you.

They come to the state.

You know, the state thinks that something is wrong in your house.

You lose your children.

All because, hey, we've got to protect the children.

Now, IQ.

Well, if you have an IQ, you know, in the 70s, you shouldn't be a mother.

And take her two children away.

This is a tragic story.

And America, is this really who we are?

We talked to Amy

and her advocate, Shireen, is going to be joining us here in their fight against the state of Oregon.

We go there next.

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I am so bothered by this story.

I think you will be too.

There is a

woman,

Amy Fabrini.

She just had a baby, and in her her home

are all of the unread children's books, the unworn baby clothes, a Winnie the Pooh blanket

laying inside a crib where the baby has never slept.

Amy

Fabrini

has an IQ of 72, which is

not

mentally handicapped.

And the state of Oregon has deemed that

she's not smart enough to have her own children.

Even though the state worker that went in to investigate said there's no sign of abuse, there's no sign of neglect, and she's perfectly qualified.

to have and hold and love her children.

Amy is not allowed to have have her children.

They are currently up for adoption.

This is an injustice.

Amy

and the woman who actually

worked for the state and did the analysis, but when she came back to the state and says, no, she should have her children, the state fired her.

Trouble in the state of Oregon.

We talk to Amy and her advocate right now.

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In light of Charlie Gard and now Alfie Evans, and in the past it was Justine

Pelletier, governments and hospitals are taking children from their parents.

And we want to make sure that you are aware of this.

We welcome Shireen Hagenbach.

her

mentor, and Amy Fabrini, the mother who is going through this in Oregon.

Amy, how are you?

I'm doing good, thank you.

Tell me what's happening to you and what's happening to your children.

So, Christopher, my oldest,

he was taken into CPS custody almost four years ago, and we have been fighting the state for almost four years now to get him back, trying to be represented as best as we can, trying to to get our story out there, trying to get a lawyer, an attorney that will represent us in court so we can

get Christopher back.

We have a trial coming up in December to terminate our rights for Christopher.

And then Hunter, he was born in February.

He was two days old.

CPS came, took him right from the hospital.

I didn't even get to bring him home.

So since then, we've been fighting for him as well.

We've been getting our story out there to try and find someone that can represent us so we can go up against the state to get our kids back.

And we just want our story out there so they know that you can get your kids back.

Amy.

All right.

Are you a good mom?

I'm a wonderful mother.

I love my boys.

I would do anything for my boys.

Sorry, this has caught me off guard.

I have a daughter of special needs.

And so this has caught me off guard.

I'm sorry to be emotional with you.

What does it feel like

to now have to be on national radio with people

discussing your IQ and saying that you're not smart enough to be a mom?

It's been hard, but it's worth it to get my story out there so that people know that you can get your kids back as long as you just fight.

Fight for everything you have because your kids are worth it.

Has a lawyer stepped up to help you yet?

I have a court-appointed attorney and an appeals attorney, but I would like to see if I could find someone that's out of state that can better represent me.

Shireen.

Yeah.

How are you?

I'm doing good.

Thank you.

You worked for the state of Oregon?

So, yes, actually,

I was a volunteer.

So, So I'm a professional mediator by trade, and

I went there to just volunteer my time in the community.

And because of my credentials and education, they put me in the role of

a caseworker that came into the home and observed visitations with the children.

And what did you observe?

Well, first I should preface this with I've had over 20 years experience working with children, youth, and families.

So

my undergrad is in psychology and I have,

you know, a ton of certificates regarding safety and health and abuse.

And

what I found when I came into the home is a home.

I found two parents that

just loved their child.

It was just Christopher at the time.

It was last summer.

And

definitely my first impression was that Amy in particular didn't speak to me very much.

She was

very insecure.

She didn't what?

She didn't speak to me at first.

It took about four weeks at least to gain her trust in me as

a caseworker.

And once she felt comfortable with me in the home,

you know,

it was

clear to see that

she had had years of,

you know, just this unhealthy relationship between her and the state of Oregon when they came in.

So,

you know, I just had to build that trust up with her.

But I just saw a loving environment.

There was, you know, they've got the same dog apparently for the last five years.

There's really nothing going on at all that I discovered other than

maybe they were depressed and,

you know, that was the only thing that I could see.

And obviously if they had their children back, that depression would have lifted.

In the 10 months that I've worked with her after, she's just, I mean, she's got her voice now.

She's fighting.

She's,

you know,

she's really looking for more of an advocate because we live in a small town here.

And that's been the hardest thing for me is, one, to speak out against child protective services and

care for my family.

My stepdad is a lawyer and judge in town, and my mom's got a pretty high position, so I wanted to protect them, but also stand up for people that don't feel like they have a voice and they're not being heard.

So I'm pretty much the lone star out here.

And their attorneys are representing them, but

they all know each other here.

So

I know that they're not being

fought for properly.

So

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Mercury.

This is the Glenn Beck Program.

Welcome back to the program.

We're talking about Amy Fabrini, who the state

has decided, the state of Oregon, that she does not have a high enough IQ to be able able to have her two children.

Her first child was taken from her

after

being fine in the home and living for

two or three years with mom and dad.

And her second child has just been taken from her at the hospital at birth.

Go ahead, Amy.

Did I get something wrong?

Yeah, Christopher was only in our home for like four days when CPS came in and took him.

So Amy,

what is the thing, talking to the mother who, remember, is not smart enough to have her own children, according to the state of Oregon.

Amy, what caused this?

Why did the state come over to your house?

What was the complaint?

The initial complaint was that we had an ex-friend that was living with us, and they called CPS and reported that the father, Eric Ziegler,

had been neglecting Christopher.

He hadn't been picking up on his cues.

He wasn't cleaning him properly.

And then there was also put in the report that he wasn't properly feeding our dog.

That was the first report, and that's why CPS came in and took Christopher.

Okay, and so the woman who came out, Shireen, you were the person that came out with that report?

I am not the first person that came out with the initial report.

Okay, and what did that first report say?

That report took the child away?

Yeah, the first report was called in supposedly by

a roommate of theirs.

And

the second

report was actually from Amy's father who was upset that she decided to move in with the father of her child.

So they They've just gone with that for

the last almost four years now.

Okay, now, Shireen, you have been with Amy over the last couple of years.

You see her quite often or not?

So I, yes.

So I

was placed in the home as a volunteer.

I gave my time.

So I was placed in the home last May of 2016

and

performed weekly visitations for three hours apiece with Amy, Eric, and their child, Christopher.

Over the last

year.

So it was from May of 2016 until August of 2016 when their attorney asked for

my observations because Child Protective Services was not releasing them.

And Amy, when was the birth date of your

second child?

February 16th of 2017.

February of 2017.

Yes.

So,

Amy, I have to ask you a tough question because this is what the people who are against you say, that

you didn't know that you were pregnant until you had

your child,

and they find that unreasonable.

It has happened before with people who are supposedly intelligent, but it is difficult to not know that you're pregnant.

Can you tell me about that?

Is that true?

What happened?

So that was with, that was when I was,

I didn't know I was pregnant with Christopher.

And I didn't, all I all I thought was because

I have kidney issues.

It's been passed down through my family.

So when I was getting these pain, when I was getting these pains in my side, I just thought it was my kidneys acting up.

I had no indications that I was pregnant.

I didn't have any movement or anything.

And when you had

when you weren't having your period, is that normal for you?

Yes.

And

were you growing in size?

Did you look pregnant?

No.

Shireen, can you help me out on that?

Yeah, so

Amy is

figure is just,

it's just always been the same ever since I've met her, actually.

And

when I came into the home last summer, she actually,

we didn't know at the time, but she was just beginning, you know, her pregnancy for the second child.

And she's stayed the same since the first time I've met her until today, she looks exactly the same.

So, and she, and she didn't give birth in February.

I'm not sure, how big are you?

What is your size about?

We don't have to get into that.

Don't have to.

We don't have to get into that.

Please, let's.

So it's something where you just, you just can't, you don't notice.

It's just

the way that she's built.

But she did know she was pregnant with Hunter, the second child.

And we discussed extensively about her coming forward, but they just had an incredible amount of fear that the state would take their child.

Which they did.

Which they did.

So your aunt, Amy, agrees with you and your husband and Shireen that.

your children are now up for adoption by the state.

Christopher is.

How do you feel about that?

I don't feel it's right.

He shouldn't be put up for adoption.

He should be with us.

It's completely wrong.

Shireen

and Amy, how can we help you?

Is there anything, first of all, that I've missed?

Well, I would like to advocate that Amy and Eric have remained together.

They live in a three-bedroom, two-bath home.

It's owned by Eric's father.

And they've taken extensive courses on parenting,

what abuse and neglect looks like, helping fitness.

I mean, they are very proactive in showing the courts that they want to learn what they want them to learn and that

and they're proving to the courts and to everybody around here that they're very capable of learning.

The IQ that is given, you know, is debatable anyways.

That can be subjective to oppression, all kinds of things.

So,

but

She's very articulate.

They're very sweet.

They're very kind.

and what could help them is finding good representation to help them advocate for their rights to have their children that is truly what we're looking for for this family how do they get in touch how do they get in touch with you

they can go to either my website or they can contact me via email

give me give me the information right now yeah

okay so my website is www.actionnow.com, but it's spelled with a K, so it's A-K-P-I-O-N-N-O-W

dot com.

And my email address is support at actionnow.com.

Shireen, thank you for,

you know, you're in a small town town and you have apparently a very visible family and it takes guts to stand up and to do it with class and grace and it sounds like you're doing that and God bless you for standing up.

Amy, Fabrini,

we will not forget you and

we will

further this story on any platform that I have to do with and I will do everything I can to help you out.

And

I wish you all of the best, and we'll talk to you again soon.

Back in just a second.

God bless you.

Mercury.

This is the Glenbeck program.

On a personal note,

if you just joined us, we did an interview with

a mother of two children

in Oregon that have just been taken.

One of them had been taken from them a few years ago.

They have been fighting to get their child back,

a

mother and father.

Father has a borderline on the higher end IQ of mental disability, 66.

Mom has IQ of 72.

I don't know what you expected her to sound like, but she sounded perfectly normal to me.

She is a mother who loves her children.

Sorry,

this hits close to home.

I have a daughter with cerebral palsy who is a wonderful and would make the best mother ever.

And I can't imagine what it would be like

to have to defend your

intelligence

and to have everyone calling you stupid when most likely that's the way you have

felt your whole life anyway, and all of the cruel remarks that probably came your way through your whole life

to now have a child and have it taken from you at the hospital when there is no sign of abuse nor neglect

is an injustice

that is beyond comprehension to me.

As I started this break, on a personal note, last night

I have these sweet women

who come to the studios and they pray.

And they pray for us and they pray for me.

And they were in my studios or my office last night.

And we had a great conversation.

And the last thing they said was, What can we pray

for for you?

And I said two things, and I would like to ask you to pray for the second thing more than the first.

But I said,

Empathy and courage.

We can't solve anything unless we can feel one another,

unless we really have empathy for what people are going through, and we can stop seeing things through the prism

of policies or

even the Constitution,

but start to feel where other people are.

I need more empathy for

people,

and I've been praying for that gift.

But at the same time,

I know

that we will find things like Amy.

And I need the courage and the

spine to be able to

walk through it.

And not because it's

difficult, but because it's hard on the heart after a while.

And

so if you would

join us in that prayer,

I'd appreciate it.

So

what they're looking for is an attorney that can represent them.

They're in a small town, and it sounds a little incestuous.

This town, I know, I don't mean to speak ill of this town.

I don't know anything about it.

We all know how small towns are and can be.

And once people make their mind up about

a person, it's hard to reverse that.

I found very

early on

the great joy,

which I, in some ways, was so hard, and I didn't like it, moving away from my family in my own hometown.

You become that whatever people have known you as.

You know, I was, you know,

I, to my sisters, I was their stinky little brother.

And,

you know, you just grow up and people have this image of you.

By going away, you can start fresh.

And so I don't know Amy's story in this small little town and what they thought of Amy.

But I know what the state worker...

thought when they went in and they found no abuse and no neglect.

So we need somebody.

And would Kelly Shackelford, would this be something he's what is the Liberty Council?

I mean, he does more religious freedom, but he might know somebody that could take on a case like this.

Yeah, it would be interesting to hear.

I mean, because there's a lot to this story, but if you back off help for a second, and I don't mean to get scientific, but it's like, this is just completely bonkers.

Like this woman, you expected to hear something completely different from that interview.

At least I did.

We never.

And I know you judge a judgment never by its cover, but.

We had never talked to her before.

No.

Our phone screeners had never talked to her.

Our producer had not talked to her.

Talked to the mentor or

the state advocate who was her state advocate until the state fired her.

Talked to her, but we didn't, I mean, I did not expect that conversation.

It's similar to the Charlie Gard thing in a way that, you know, there is a

line you can find with a story like this, where if they are so disabled that they can't do basic functions of life, there may be, you know, there's an argument to have.

This is not that case.

I mean, she's smarter than 80% of the people I interact with on a daily basis.

And they're taking parenting classes and

his parents are around and they have help

and the people are aware of them.

I mean, this is why

I mean, I will tell you,

I feel like adopting their children and building a house next to mine and giving them the house and we would be the adoptive parents, but we would be right next to them and they could keep the, I mean, that's what families are supposed to do, not state.

That's what the family is supposed to do.

You have your child live close enough to where the grandparents help.

You don't just take the children away.

And again, the state found no evidence of neglect.

And it's important to note, too, IQ is one of those things that has been beaten into our heads for decades and decades and decades as this actual measure of intelligence that it has some level of accuracy to it.

There's no real, you cannot decipher, these are not accurate enough measures to decipher the difference between someone who has a 72 and a 78 IQ.

This is from a Canadian university, Dr.

Adrian Owen, did a huge study, the largest study ever on IQ and the accuracy of it.

He was the senior investigator in the Canadian Excellent Research Chair in Cognitive Neuroscience and Imaging at the University's Brain and Mind Institute.

When we looked at the data, the bottom line is the whole concept of IQ or of you having a higher IQ than me is a myth.

There is no such thing as a single measure of IQ or a measure of general intelligence.

And we're taking people's children away based on some random test they took on someday, some number that has no real basis in science anyway, and just the sniff test here.

You listen to this woman speak and blatantly she has the intelligence to raise children.

How many people have you met in your life and you think, God, those people should not have children?

This is not one of them.

I mean, this is an absolute horror show, a complete outrage.

And I mean, how have we not heard more about the story?

How does she not have the help that she needs?

I mean, look, you might look deeper into the story and find something that that that uh that indicates something different but i mean so far we have not found it and i think just by on his face you listen to that interview if you look if you heard that interview you i mean there were times and uh you could not tell the difference if it was the mother or the or the mentor there was there was at least one time that that happened i wanted to ask what who's speaking yeah i could not tell the one who had their masters in what did she say it was and the one who just graduated from high school, the one whose kids are being taken away because they're not smart enough, and the one who has all the degrees and certificates to be hired and sent in by the state to do family counseling and

observations.

I mean,

when you can't tell the difference between the two, there's a problem.

And do we live in a country?

in which the state decides whether they will allow you to have your children, or do we live in a country in which they are your children and with only the most incredible exceptions and incredible circumstances, would the state even consider stepping in

into a parent-child relationship?

That is the country we're supposed to live in.

And if we live in the, I mean, I know Oregon's a lot different than other states, and maybe this wouldn't happen in other states.

I don't know, but this is a complete outrage on its face.

So, here's what I want to say to you:

Have you...

My aunt was...

She married an abuser.

And

he wasn't abusing her at first.

Not physically,

before they got married.

Mentally, he was.

My grandfather spotted him a mile away.

And all the way down the aisle, my aunt told me, my dad,

I thought at the time, just wrecked my ceremony because grandpa was walking her down the aisle and said, please, please, Joanne, don't do this.

Please don't do this.

Please don't marry him.

Please turn around right now and come with me.

Please, I'm your father.

I'm begging you.

And she said, Dad, stop it.

When they got to the end of the aisle, he kissed her on the cheek and said, I will always be your father, and I will always be there, but I cannot be there to watch my daughter be abused.

When you are done, you let me know.

And he gave her to this abuser.

She would come over to my grandfather's house from time to time with a black eye or whatever, and she'd come crying to my grandmother, her mother.

And

grandpa would answer the door, and his heart would break.

And he would look at her, and he'd hug her, and she would cry.

And then he would look at her and say, Are you done yet?

She'd say, Dad, no, you don't.

He stopped listening and he'd walk away.

And Grandma would spend the time.

Until that time came when she came home and said, Dad, I'm done.

We never saw the abuser again.

He went away,

and they had a very easy divorce.

I think it involved my grandfather and the man who became my uncle and her husband later

showing up at his door with a shotgun or two, but I could be wrong.

But here's why I tell you that story.

Are you done yet?

Are you done yet?

Are we done arguing politics?

Are we done making that the center of our universe?

Because I'm done.

I'm so done.

That's not getting us anywhere.

This we can make a difference on.

This we can do.

This is a noble cause.

This is something we should be spending our time on.

I'll pick this up tomorrow, but today I just want to ask you that question.

Are you done yet?

If you are, when you are, let me know.

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All right.

Where is this?

Where is this family from?

As we're starting to put information together,

the Redmond couple.

Where is Redmond, Oregon?

It's a small town.

What's it close to?

Isn't

rural Oregon very, very blue

and

red on the other side?

I want to find out about this.

We're going to pick this story up tomorrow.

Next,

some really good stuff.

Some people are absolutely amazing, standing in the fire.

The Christians of the Middle East who are standing up.

You want to talk about courage?

Tom Doyle joins us next.

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Boy, there's a lot to talk about today.

The outrageously wrong climate predictions, you know, Paul Ryan saying he's sure they're going to stick on this landing when it comes to tax reform.

Of course, all of the stuff that was going on yesterday at the White House, the Debbie Wasserman Schultz,

that story

is crazy and nobody is covering it.

We're actually working on a chalkboard for that one.

When you see that one really laid out, it's going to boggle your mind.

Stu's been looking at some of the details on this one, it's gonna blow your mind how something's wrong, something's big-time wrong.

Also, record high for the stock market.

Greenspan came out yesterday and said, Hey, nothing wrong with the stock market, but boy, have you seen those bonds lately?

What does that mean?

Well,

if you have a pension or you live in a city,

that's bad.

Really, really bad.

So what are you going to do about it?

Let's begin there right now.

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Welcome to the program.

Scaramucci was escorted out the door yesterday, so we know he can do the fandango, which is wonderful.

I'm kind of upset because we just got in, you know, we just got into our audio vault this.

Will you do the fandango?

Because we thought we could, you know, use that, and now it's

got it today.

Or yesterday.

And it's over.

It's over.

Come on.

Well, it was 11 full days.

I was getting a little tired of it.

You know?

11 days.

11 days.

The time window is tightening.

It's like every day.

I feel like it used to be a crazy story every year.

Then it was a crazy story every six months.

Then it was three and two.

Now it's like every 10 days.

Oh, no, no, no.

In the world, or you just mean the White House?

I just mean the White House generally.

Okay, yeah, about every 10 days.

Every five to 10 days.

But a crazy story every single day now.

And I don't think we just have one crazy story.

Just yesterday, we got Scaramucci leaving.

We got that Trump reportedly dictated the Donald Trump Jr.

statement.

That's so bad.

If you're a fan of Donald Trump,

this is real trouble.

This is real, real trouble.

They're denying it, by the way.

I know.

So I know who knows.

But

if it turns out to be true, it's enough to where now the federal investigation will go all the way to Donald Trump.

And, you know, if he was actually, and that shows there is, what, a leak from Air Force One?

If that indeed does pan out to be true, this could be something

that is now, you know, part of a cover-up or whatever.

It's just going to get worse.

It's going to get worse.

So we had that yesterday.

What else did we miss yesterday?

And we had the story today that there was this

via lawsuit filed by the investigator that this Seth Rich story was being fed to

there was a meeting with Sean Spicer.

There was reported, according to the lawsuit, potential contact with the president, though that's not.

It says it in a memo, whether the memo is true or not.

We don't know yet.

But in one of the memos, it says the president is aware of all this and would like you to further this story.

A text, a series series of texts.

And

very close contact with Fox News on that story.

What's interesting about it is if you remember the Seth Rich story that

came up right after Comey was fired, the idea that

he had a role in leaking to WikiLeaks, so it wasn't

the Russian connection as far as trying to hack the election.

Right.

It was the DNC that was trying to do it.

This operative from the DNC that was doing it.

And then he wound up being killed, right?

So the only piece of evidence on this to make this into a story was

an investigator who was working with the family who said, yes, there is a connection between Seth Rich and WikiLeaks.

That investigator is the guy filing the lawsuit.

So he has texts, he has voicemails from operatives behind the scenes, and Spicer, Sean Spicer, has admitted he did meet with the operative who was working on this particular

story.

He's a guy who's been on Fox and on this network many times.

We don't know.

He's denying it.

He is so we don't know what it is.

But again, it's just another gigantic twist in this story.

And it's so fast.

It's to the point that Pat pointed out yesterday at the end of the show.

We hadn't even talked about Reince Priebus the entire show.

It was our first show since he was fired.

We hadn't even mentioned it the entire show.

That is, I mean, it's a pace we've never

seen before.

No, it's it's an overwhelming of the system from all angles.

I mean, I don't think we actually had the conversation yesterday as well, first time since it had happened, that North Korea could hit New York City with a nuclear missile.

We're not talking a Scud missiles.

We're talking an ICBM.

Then there's the highly unusual submarine activity that the military has now

been made aware of.

Okay, so here's what happens.

When you open up the sub doors, okay,

so you open up the submarine doors to launch a missile out of it it has to blow air out of that while the missile is launching so it doesn't burn the inside of the ship down um and so it i i don't know exactly how it works but it it ejects all of that stuff as the missile is coming out

and pushes all the heat and everything else out.

Well,

what's happening with the missiles, or or with the subs, the North Korean subs, many of them are old, et cetera, et cetera, but they're starting

in the last month or so, they're testing all of those systems on their subs.

And we're catching them

testing missile launches without launching missiles.

That's a very big deal and highly unusual.

Why are you doing that?

It is overwhelming the system.

And

I don't know that it's anything intentional by anyone, but man, you're just, you get overwhelmed by this stuff.

You feel like this huge...

I mean, Scaramucci resigning yesterday is insane.

The guy was just hired as the answer 10 days earlier, and he's leaving.

And by the next day, you're just like on to the next story.

I don't know if it's a social media phenomenon.

I don't know what it is.

And so

where does this even fit?

Have you seen the Jeff Flake, you know, My Party is in Denial about.

Yeah, it's amazing that, you know, this is

an op-ed he wrote, which is actually part of his book.

Yeah.

He was saying he's in denial about Donald Trump.

The party is in denial about Donald Trump.

And he signed his name to it.

There's been a lot of these comments that have floated throughout the media since he was elected from unnamed officials.

Now, Jeff Flake, I'm trying to remember where we lost track of Jeff Flake, when Jeff Flake sold his soul.

We were not a fan of his stance on one of the gun bills, I remember.

Yeah, it's been an immigration.

An immigration.

Immigration, yeah.

Yeah, he was really, really great, and then he started selling his soul to the party.

To be fair, he still is good on certain things.

Spending, he's pretty good on.

Was he ever for Trump?

I would say he was

agnostic.

No, I would say he was more on the I'm not a fan of Trump side.

He was one of the more consistent on that.

However,

you know, he was

public officials, particularly senators, taking public positions against the president is pretty notable.

It's not as notable as if

one of his big allies came out

and took him on.

He's definitely on the side.

He's not a fan of Trump's.

Our forebears knew that keeping a republic meant, above all, keeping it safe from foreign transgressors.

They all knew people could not live and work freely and develop national institutions conceived conductive to freedom except in peace with independence.

So where should Republicans go from here?

First, we shouldn't hesitate to speak out if the president plays to his base in ways that damage the Republican Party ability to grow and speak to a larger audience.

So listen to that.

I mean, he's putting his the party.

Second, Republicans need to take the long view when it comes to issues like free trade.

Populist and protectionist policies may play well out in the short term, but they handicap the country in the long term.

Third, Republicans need to stand up for the institution and prerogatives like the Senate filibuster that served us well for more than two centuries.

We've taken our institutions conductive to freedom, as Goldwater put it, for granted.

And we have to engage in one of the more reckless periods of politics in our history.

In 2017, we seem to have lost our appreciation for just how hard-won and vulnerable those institutions are.

Well, it's nice to have you through the party, Jeff.

Seemed almost dismissive.

I almost got a sense that that was dismissive.

I'm so done with, I'm so done with, I'm really so done with all of the politicians.

I mean, honestly, should we have any politician on here?

I'm politician agnostic now.

With an exception of very, very few.

You're not sure you believe they exist?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, I'm unfortunately.

I'm not sure how many, I'm agnostic on how many good ones exist.

I know one.

I know Mike Lee.

I would, I would,

I'd swear by Mike Lee.

But

what does that mean?

I mean, there's just certainly a few.

Yeah, there are a few, and I like a few of them.

But the only one I really know personally, really well, I feel, is Mike Lee.

And unshakable.

And he is.

Ben Sachs.

I mean, we don't know him that well.

Ben Sachs.

But we know Ben Sachs.

Yeah, I like Ben Sachs.

I like him a lot.

I think there's several of them.

Lee Gobert?

Yeah.

There's several of them.

So

I'm not throwing

them out.

Yes.

Yes.

His concerns goes wise.

W.

Wasserman Schultz.

Okay, you guys aren't output.

No, but I think you're right.

Obviously, there are some that are.

There are many there, and I hate to abandon them, but I'm just so done.

I'm just so done with them that I'm not, well, why would I stick my neck out for any of you?

Why would I endorse or help

or anything?

Because I don't know what you guys are going to do when you get in.

You know, you're never going to know that, though.

People are flawed.

I know, I know.

The problem here is the second you take that attitude, or all of us take that attitude, then you're done.

Then there is an unrestrained move to the dark side.

You have to have people who are at least standing up.

And, you know, you get some things and you lose a lot of them.

You just hope to slow that roll a little bit towards the progressive side.

It's really all you can do.

But we can't, it's like the Second Amendment.

I always think there used to be, there was a time, because I'm not a gun guy.

I did not grow up in gun culture by any means, though I

believe in the Second Amendment.

And there was a time where I would hear some of the arguments made by gun advocates, and they were just, they seemed almost irrational to me.

As a guy who just never dealt with guns, like, why are you defending that kind of gun?

Like, to me, on its face, without thinking about it deeply, it just kind of seems irrational.

You're just defending anything that has to do with guns.

Yeah.

You have to defend anything that has to do with guns because the second you let them pass that barrier, they go to the next barrier.

So you better stand up there and defend every single freaking thing because the second they get past that wall, they are on to the next one and they'll trample the next 50 walls past it.

Wherever you set up your, you know, your defense is where they will stop for the time being.

Yes.

So you better set it up as aggressively as possible.

Yes.

And that comes to this.

New survey shows most millennials don't really know what religious liberty even means.

Oh, I believe that.

Oh, totally.

Oh, wait until you see this.

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And then at the bottom of the hour, we go to Tom Doyle, who has written a book called Standing in the Fire.

It is about the Christians who are living in some of the most frightening times

since probably the Dark Ages.

And they are standing up in the Middle East.

And Tom Doyle will tell us a little bit about these amazing people.

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Economics professor from Miale says what he's seeing in the market is the quiet before the storm.

Now, yesterday, Greenspan came out and said, Oh, you know, there's nothing to the stock market.

That's all legitimate.

No, it's not.

I mean, that's crazy.

But

he wants to warn people about the bond market.

What the hell does that even mean?

I'll tell you what it means: if you have a pension,

your pensions are

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and the state or whoever is selling those bonds

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This city will be around forever.

It's going to be great.

How about your investment in bonds?

Your pensions are invested in bonds because they're, quote, safe.

Well, there is a gigantic bubble.

that people have been warning about for about five years.

When this bubble pops, it means your city, your state, won't have the money in bonds.

Remember what you had said, oh, yeah, we want that school.

Just put a school bond

out there.

That means people bought that bond, believed you were good for it, and so that money was available.

The minute that bond market goes down, that money is no longer available.

Then what do you do?

It's going to affect your city.

This is going to affect your town.

This is going to massively impact your

future.

Your 401k, your IRA,

your pension, God forbid you have one.

That's what this means.

When that happens, then what?

Pat was telling us yesterday about a bank that was Citibank that came to him.

I can't believe this is what they said, but oh, you know what?

The banks are going to release $4 trillion really soon.

That's going to get the economy pumping.

That what they said, Pat?

Yeah.

It was Chase, actually, but yes.

So I said, wow, $4 trillion released at the same time.

Probably not going to be good for the inflation rate.

Oh, well, they're going to be really judicious about how

strategic they are.

So within a minute.

In a minute, it was they're going to release it all at one time, and it's going to really soup up the market.

Pat said inflation.

Well, no.

No, of course.

They're going to control the velocity.

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Of course they are.

They always do.

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Hello and welcome to the program.

So there's a new survey that shows most millennials don't know what religious liberty is.

They think religious freedom is a choice.

And given the two following statements, 58% of millennials

are 13% more secular than older generations agreed with the statement that religion is personal and it should not play a role, a significant role, in society.

58%.

Okay.

They were given then

these two statements.

There is a difference between a business serving people equally and forcing a business to participate in a ceremony that violates their religious belief.

We should respect religious freedom of these people.

That's statement number one.

Statement number two, there is no difference between illegal discrimination and a business person refusing to provide services to things like a gay wedding ceremony for religious reasons.

We should enforce anti-discrimination laws against these people.

While 95% people claimed to believe religious freedom is important, only 50% identified with the first statement, and 49% identified and agreed with the second statement.

There's a few things we need to take care of, and really politics is not one of them.

We need to find ways to shore up the Constitution and start teaching the Constitution and educating those who want to be educated on the truth and then helping them find new ways to reach out to their friends and

help them understand why these things are important.

People do not rise to the level of their expectation.

They rise to the level of their education and their preparation.

Nobody has an education.

They're not going to rise.

If there is a serious violation in one of the Constitutional Amendments, Bill of Rights, they're not going to know.

There's no preparation and there's no education.

They will not rise up to protect or defend something.

They don't even know what it is.

Many people, half of them, think that they are siding with the Constitution

when they agree with,

you know, statement number two.

They're not, but they don't even know that.

Back in a minute with some people who actually are oppressed, the Christians in the Middle East.

The Glenn Beck program.

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We're really honored to have Tom Doyle in with us in the studio.

He is the vice president and Middle East Central Asia director for E3 Partners, which is based here in Dallas.

That's right, in Plano.

And he has written several books.

One of them has just come out, Standing in the Fire, Courageous Christians Living in Frightening Times.

Good to have you here.

Great to be here.

Tell me, tell me,

I want you to take us through a couple of stories.

Let's start on

there's no place like Holmes.

What is Holmes?

Holmes is one of the major cities in Syria, and Farid is a Christian that lives there, and

it's devastated after the six years civil war.

About 80% of the city's gone.

It looks like Berlin or Dresden, Germany after World War II.

But Fareed is out there sharing the gospel.

He's looking at the political situation, but saying there's really spiritual answers here.

And so he is motivated to reach out to people.

But there's a man that has been threatening him for five years and promised to kill him.

His name is Rashid.

Five years, he's written him notes, texts, emails, even wrote 30 death threats on the front of his apartment and numbered them.

This is what we're going to do to you.

This is what we'll do to your wife.

This is what we'll do to your family.

And so this is coming.

But one day, Farid decides to do something that only makes sense in an Arab culture, Glenn.

He goes to visit that man that's threatening him at his house.

Now, we would think, how could you do that?

Well,

Texans would do that with a gun.

That's right.

That's how that would work.

But you go there and because they're Arabs, even his enemy has to invite him in.

He would be so disgraced in his community if you and I have something against each other and you knock on my door and I don't invite you in.

I would be ostracized in the community.

Someone came to your door, you didn't let them in, so the man lets them in.

That would happen with Marcus Luttrell, right?

Yeah, he went to a, I mean, even as well, that was a, yeah, that was a different, I mean, that whole community was, if you see a stranger come to your village and needs help and you don't offer them help and protect them, then the entire, the entire city falls apart.

I mean, then the whole tribe, that's what that tribe was about.

Yeah.

So in America, you knock on someone's door and they probably don't answer it.

But in the Middle East, they have to answer it and invite you in.

And he does and promises to stop threatening Fareed and all of that.

And so it ends up that Fareed is really smart.

And he's thinking, he gives a gift to the family as he leaves.

He says, I want to give this gift to your family.

He gives him a copy of the Bible.

And

Rashid looks at it, Glenn, like it's radioactive, contaminated, takes it with two fingers and sets it over, doesn't want to look at it, end of the conversation, awkward ending.

He leaves, and that's it.

Now, this guy that he was visiting, Muslim.

Why was he threatening Fareed and the South?

Because Fareed is seeing a lot happen.

Muslims are leaving Islam and coming to faith in Christ.

And so leaders within cities and different branches of the religion do not like that.

There's a back door, even though it's called the religion of the back, no back door, there is a back door.

And so he leaves the Bible.

And again, the texts keep coming.

I'm going to kill you.

I'm going to do this to you.

But weeks later, Rashid asks to meet with Farid.

And he goes and visits him.

And Farid just challenges him and says, you know what?

I'm so tired of these threats.

Five years you told me you wanted to kill me.

You want to kill me?

Here's your chance.

I'm in your house.

Go ahead.

Kill me.

I know where I'm going.

I'm going to heaven.

You don't make me tremble with fear.

And Rashid says, I don't want to kill you.

I want to talk to you.

And he picks up the Bible and says, one night the bombs were dropping in homes.

There was just mass chaos.

I was reading the Quran.

No help there.

I set it aside.

picked up the Bible at 7 p.m.

and started reading.

And at 6 a.m.

in the morning, I looked up at the clock and realized I'd been reading through the night.

I was finding out about Jesus and he was about love and all that was around me was hate.

And I decided I need some change.

It ends up that Rashid becomes a believer in Christ, believes his religion, and is being mentored, discipled by Farid.

And actually, the man that wrote all these threatening notes, Glenn, is writing beautiful Christian worship music now.

It's a miracle.

Now he's marked.

He's got to be marked for

all right.

There's

another story that you tell about a

Muslim worker who is working for the secret police

in Syria.

Yes.

Tell me about that.

Yes, so that's Mohammed, and Mohammed is a pretty bad dude.

In Syria, everybody fears the secret police.

When we've been there, Glenn, the estimates are that 60%

of

the people in Syria have connections to the secret police.

So you're not in the secret police, but your brother is.

So it's all connected, and there's several branches.

They check on each other.

So it's just this web.

It's Cold War Russia in an Arab country, is what it really is.

And so he's...

pretty feared man, but finally one of his friends is killed by Assad.

Now think about this.

Bashar Assad is an Alawite.

That's not a Muslim.

That's a split-off group from Islam.

But this man, Muhammad, is a Muslim.

One of his friends is killed.

He doesn't want to go with ISIS, but he thinks that's it.

I'm out of here.

They end up going to Jordan.

And a friend of mine, the first time he saw him,

Rami, he went to deliver food to him.

He's a refugee, like the millions of others of Syrian refugees that are all around the world.

He's just a refugee.

In Syria, he had status.

Pretty feared person.

Now, he's nothing.

He's a name on the list.

He's got a wife and kids, and he's waiting for food handouts.

And so Rami goes to visit him.

And he said to me, Tom, without question, this is the man that I have feared the most in my life.

When I handed him the food at his little tent, he glared at me like he could see through me.

If that guy had a knife, I would be dead.

There was so much hatred there.

And here I'm just giving his family some food.

And why did he hate him so much?

Because first he was a Christian, and he knew that he was a Christian.

And so, you know, here Muhammad's a committed Muslim.

I don't want to take anything from a Christian, but I have to.

My family can't eat.

So he takes it.

Well, it ends up, he's telling his wife about this, Rami, and says, this guy, if he had a knife, I'd be gone.

You know, forget it.

The next week, he's looking at his list, Rami, and he realizes he's got to go to Muhammad's house again, his wife Menara and he thinks are you kidding me and he goes and delivers same glare just evil

just so angry at him

but somehow God moves and changes the situation Mohammed's wife falls down some stairs her name is Menara breaks her leg in three places as a refugee zero you you have nothing there there's no hospital to go to there's there's nothing it's all for pay they have no money he picks up the phone and he calls Rami he gets gets his number somehow and says, Rami, my wife's in agony crying.

Her leg is broken.

It's obvious.

We have to go to the hospital.

I don't know anybody to talk to.

You're my only friend in life.

And the guy who was glaring at him.

Yes.

And Rami says, okay, I'd hate to be his enemy.

I'm his friend.

Are you kidding me?

Takes him to the hospital, ends up a Christian group,

pays for it.

And it ends up just through the kindness and the love of Christians reaching out.

And And some of them in America, Glenn, he starts to read the Bible.

Maybe this religion I'm in, maybe I need to take another look at the Jesus person.

Maybe I need to back off what I believed and investigate this.

And it ends up that he too comes to faith in Christ and is not leaving.

You know, we hear about this exodus of Christians from the Middle East, Muslims that are, we would say, converting, becoming followers of Christ.

Many of them are staying because they believe the answers in their country to the problems are spiritual.

And a lot of them too are,

these are original homes for refugees.

I mean 2,000 years ago, this is where the Christians went for refuge.

That's right.

And so these are massive historic sites.

And the Christians I meet there, they're like, we cannot abandon.

This is holy land.

We cannot abandon this.

That's right.

Those are the first days of the gospel as it just went out from Jerusalem.

And you look at Jordan and Syria and Lebanon and those places.

Great spiritual history and the Christians are anchored to that history.

So how does this make you feel when

you go

and you see this and then you come back home?

Wow.

You know, Glenn, we always go there to encourage them.

Yeah, I know.

But then it flips it around and we just realize they have so much more.

You know, think about the average church in America.

But when Muslims there are considering Jesus the Savior, they ask two questions.

Are you willing to suffer for him if you leave Islam?

Two, are you ready to die for Jesus?

Can you imagine that if those were two questions in the new members class in our churches here?

That would thin the reins.

They kind of are, but you don't think of them as real.

Are you willing to suffer for his name and take it?

Yeah, yeah.

You're willing to die?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, let's go.

In America, you'd have to make the refreshments way better to get people in the door.

Right.

But

there,

they actually mean it the way it was always really, truly, traditionally meant.

So true.

And so how it makes me feel is very grateful to God that he can work even in the chaos, in the degradation, the evil, when we see what ISIS was doing in Syria, hanging people on crosses.

And there are people that are firm in their faith.

unwilling to give up.

It gives us hope.

Are these people that you

are following and and helping?

These are the people who lived where the crucifixes were.

I mean, the modern-day crucifixes that nobody in the media wants to cover.

No, no.

We mentioned that on our Facebook page, 838.

We pray for persecuted Christians at 8.38 p.m.

every night.

We mentioned that a couple years ago, and boy, we got ripped by some news media saying there's no crucifixions in Syria and all that.

Well, the news media is not omnipresent.

They can't be everywhere at every time,

at all places, and they missed it.

And soon pictures were coming out of Christians being crucified.

And so it's a reality.

The name of the book is Standing in the Fire.

And I will tell you, it will humble you

a lot

because you will realize, wow,

maybe my faith right now is a little

shallow.

And theirs is not.

And the things that we can learn from these people, I mean, think of the things that you are afraid to do.

Think of the things that you're afraid to say.

Think of the things you're afraid to stand up for.

And I mean,

not even stand up for Jesus.

Just stand up for true principles that you were raised to know were true.

So many people won't do it because it's unpopular.

You want to prepare yourself.

to be a leader.

You need education and preparation to be able to rise to the occasion and be the person that you were born to be when times happen.

A good way to start is reading, Standing in the Fire, Courageous Christians Living in Frightening Times.

Tom, thank you very much.

Thank you, Glenn.

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Wow, has it been a roller coaster of a day today?

In hour number one, in case you missed it,

the mooch.

Why did he leave the White House?

Why was he escorted?

Go ahead.

Yes.

And we had to throw that in because...

It's probably the last day to do it.

Yeah, well, maybe tomorrow.

I mean, maybe tomorrow.

So why did he leave the White House?

And what does it mean?

What does this tell us

about the Trump

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In hour number one, I explained greater predictability.

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Number three is

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Who's going to play the enemy this time to help me get re-elected or help me accomplish the things I want?

I laid this all out and showed you what I believe is coming in the next two and then the next four and six years ahead.

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