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On this podcast today, still from Arizona, this time at our radio affiliate KFYI in Phoenix, Arizona, as we are here with the Charlie Kirk family and the TPUSA family, celebrating the life of Charlie Kirk this week.

We talked about freedom of speech, some of the things that are happening now.

Finally, we're taking on Antifa.

And of course, Jimmy Kimmel is crying because two companies have decided they're not going to carry the Jimmy Kimmel's show.

That is their right as individuals to do.

I am uncomfortable if

the government gets involved.

Now, that wasn't said by anybody on the left when the government got involved with, oh, I don't know, Twitter and Facebook.

Let's look at the files on that, shall we?

Again, crocodile tears and the hypocrisy is enough to just choke you to death.

Also, we continue with Peter Navarro.

We have the nurse and the doctor.

You remember the doctor who was making fun of Charlie Kirk and saying that he deserved it, etc., etc., in front of a patient?

The nurse reported him.

She got fired at first, then now she's been rehired and the doctor was fired.

We talked to her on the program as well.

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Welcome back to the Glenbeck Program.

And Stu here

back in Dallas today.

Thanks for coming out yesterday, Stu, and being here.

It meant a lot to me and I know the people at TPUSA as well.

Yeah, it was awesome for them to host us,

just great people

and the great organization.

So it was glad to be part of it.

So what is your take on

the Jimmy Kimmel stuff, Stu?

Where am I missing it?

Well, I think you're going to get pushback from both sides probably on it at some level, which I guess you're used to at this point.

This is your life.

I think the left is going to say there is pressure from the government here, and they're very upset about that.

Now, I can't even note how I feel about that because

I'm so overcome by rage at the hypocrisy of them complaining about government cracking down on speech.

I can't believe that Twitter files, Twitter files, Twitter files.

Thank you.

I mean, there's a hundred million examples of this.

Twitter files is a great one, though.

The standard we had to hit to prove that that story mattered was like we needed to have Joe Biden pounding on the windows of the office building at Twitter.

He's screaming at them to take off individual conservatives.

That's the standard we had to hit for that story to matter.

We have all sorts of emails from the government pressuring these companies to say, pull down this speech.

They shouldn't be able to say this.

They shouldn't be able to say that.

And

the White House is very concerned about this, and the White House is thinking about taking action.

Yeah, and I think, yeah, like that part of it, too.

And it was behind the scenes.

Now, it was also public, but it was more than that behind the scenes.

Now, we might find out that this was going on behind the scenes with Brendan Carr.

I don't know.

We'll talk to him about it.

We'll ask him.

And

It's hard to separate the hypocrisy here and how infuriated I am that they would even make these arguments to even come up with what my preferred policy would be, which I think is pretty similar to yours.

If the left wants to join in unity to work with us to defang all of these three-letter agencies from going through and ruining all of public life, I cheer it on.

Put a bill on there today, Chuck Schumer.

We will all vote for it.

I would love that.

These are all of their organizations with their rules organizing

these

policies that are lining up against private interests.

This is all their stuff.

None of us wanted any of it.

Right.

And this is why you don't make those agencies more powerful.

This has been our point the whole time.

Somebody, you make them powerful.

Somebody that you don't like comes in and wants to play the game the way you've been playing.

You're not going going to like it.

Yeah.

And that's exactly what they're accusing us of doing.

Wait a minute.

Doing what you were doing?

Using the agency that you created to do these kinds of things?

The IRS targeting conservatives, the FCC targeting conservatives,

you know, the White House targeting conservatives.

I mean, did you yesterday the FBI, their

Arctic Frost

probe was released.

This is the FBI targeting 100 GOP groups, okay?

Including the Republican Party,

the Republican National Committee, the RNC, the Republican Attorney General Association, Trump political groups.

They were all placed under FBI investigations.

It was part of this

Operation Arctic Frost.

And

it was

politically investigating Trump using partisan FBI agents and DOJ prosecutors so they could improperly investigate everything about the Republican Party.

Now, nobody's saying anything about that.

I want to defang the FBI so it cannot do that to the DNC or to the RNC.

I want to defang this government.

This is what we call the weaponization of government.

And if you don't like it, like Stu said, we will stand with you shoulder to shoulder to defang these things.

Shoulder to shoulder, I will stand right with you saying the government shouldn't have the power to do that.

Let's get rid of this agency or let's defang this agency to the point to where it can never target anybody on any side unless you're breaking the law.

That's what I want.

Yeah, I'm fine with getting rid of the government licensing of these stations.

There's all sorts of stuff we can go down if this is what you actually want.

But of course it isn't.

They want all of this power.

I mean, Glenn, we talked to a man who the Department of Justice

sentenced to prison for posting a Hillary Clinton meme.

Yes.

They sentence him to prison for it.

Not the prison of the Hollywood home of Jimmy Kimmel, where he now has to get paid tens of millions of dollars to stay home because a bunch of the stations that carry him don't want his show anymore.

Not that.

They tried, they wanted to put him in prison.

He lived through a decade-long legal struggle to fight off prison time for posting a meme.

This is insanity, Glenn.

This has happened over and over again, and the hypocrisy is there.

But as you point out, the question here is, and I don't think, and this is of course the problem with today's media, I don't think many people actually listened to the entire Brendan Carr interview.

Again, we can ask him about this ourselves.

I'm sure he'll come on with us today or tomorrow.

But like...

He talks often about they're like, you know, I think it was Benny Johnson who was interviewing him, and he said, he kept asking him, like, well, what do you think?

Should he be pulled off the air?

And what he said over and over again, he didn't take a position on that because he said, it's very possible we might need to be the judge in a case that comes up.

Now, we have to deal with this our entire lives.

Our business is built around whether the FCC deems us able to be able to trust.

I was 13 years old when I had to take a test at the FCC office in Seattle, Washington.

13 years old, trying to get my

third phone license.

I don't even know what a phone is because it's not the kind of phone we talk on.

I had to get a third phone license at 13 years old so I could just talk on a microphone.

Okay.

That's that's how crazy.

I've dealt with the FCC my whole life.

I despise

the FCC.

I despise them, but I know their rules and I abide by their rules because that's the rule of law.

You want to get rid of the FCC?

I am with you.

But you know why the right or the left doesn't want to do that?

Because they have used the FCC to strangle people like Rush Limbaugh, me, Sean Hannity, anybody.

They've used them when they had control to strangle us almost to death, and yet we still survive.

You know why?

Because ours is real.

Our people actually listen to us.

It's not like Jimmy Kimmel that is, Jason, what is the Jason's still doing the research trying to find out what Jimmy Kimmel's actual ratings are?

What place is he that so far that you can find in all of remember, Tucker Carlson left when he was second, second in all cable news?

Where is Jimmy Kimmel's show ranking on all network shows?

So this is complicated because of ratings.

On one of these, I can find he's around 150th.

But on another one I'm doing, it ranks about 120 shows on primetime shows.

He ranks anywhere from 95 to somewhere between 110 and 120.

So dead last pretty much in all of these.

Right.

He's in the group of, you know what?

Find the ones that that are around, you know, in the 90s.

Find the shows.

Let's see if anyone has ever seen any of these shows that are at 110.

Yeah, and we've mocked Stephen Colbert for losing tens of millions of dollars as he has been doing.

He crushes Jimmy Kimmel in the ratings.

Just talking about Colbert, who is a complete failure.

He's still dominating when it comes to this.

And what's funny about this is you can, like, the idea, the essential concept here is that Trump doesn't want anybody making fun of him, and they're trying to get everybody thrown off the air, all of his political enemies.

I'm sorry, one place you can go and hear jokes about Donald Trump probably tonight, I don't know if he's on hiatus, but is Stephen Colbert's show.

Who's still on the air?

Who's still on the air?

We had this whole situation with South Park where they're constantly mocking Donald Trump.

The merger still went through.

There is no reason to believe that Donald Trump is trying to get everybody off the air that disagrees with him.

This is a pretty unique case.

This is a case in which

Jimmy Kimmel, which, by the way, he wasn't really even making jokes about Donald Trump.

He was making, you know, he was basically mocking the situation.

I mean, he was- No, he wasn't mocking Donald Kimmel.

He was also mocking Trump, but he was mocking.

He was lying.

And he was lying about the situation.

He's lying.

I don't care if you want to mock, mock.

I think you're a despicable human being.

You're not changing my view on that.

So continue to mock all you want, Jimmy Kimmel.

You're wrong for mocking a situation like that.

But you were lying.

You were lying.

That's where the FCC will get involved.

If the FCC does get involved, because

one of the FCC, the big thing with the FCC is: are you serving the public interest?

Lying,

openly lying about something is not serving the public interest.

That's the thing with the FCC.

Okay.

They're not making something up.

You are knowingly lying about a very important thing.

Imagine, imagine, this would be like Johnny Carson or who was the guy, I think it was Carson, after Martin Luther King is shot.

If he would have gone on and said, you know, it was Martin Luther King's family that killed him.

It was all his supporters that killed him.

That's what Jimmy Kimmel did.

That is the same exact exam.

You know,

it was the Democrats that killed RFK.

You know, they're going to do everything they can to make sure that they don't, that it's not found out that the shooter of RFK was

actually a member of the Democratic Party.

Johnny Carson wouldn't have done that because there was no evidence of that.

In fact, all of the evidence went the other way, the exact opposite way on both of those examples.

You can't do that.

That's just lying.

You're not serving the public.

What you're doing instead is you are hurting the public and the public's interest and hurting the republic.

That's stuff you can get sued for bare minimum and maybe lose your license.

Yeah.

I mean, and that's, of course, what Trump has done with some other lawsuits when they've lied about this stuff.

He's sued them directly and won, or at least pressured them into settling, which again,

all this stuff is stuff you could complain about if you're any other party on earth but the modern Democrats.

Correct.

And here's what ⁇ and

here's how you solve it.

This is how I have solved it.

You know, when Van Jones and the White House came to complain and put pressure on Fox, went into Roger Ail's office and sat down, Roger said to them, look, if he's made a mistake, we'll correct it right now.

Just give me a list of all the things that he said is untrue.

They couldn't produce a list because there wasn't anything.

They came back two weeks later and said that I had said that Van Jones had gone to prison when he only went to jail.

And I corrected that.

That night, I corrected it.

But that was the extent of my lies.

Okay.

They said I was lying about everything.

The way to correct that is to point it out and correct it.

Jimmy Kimmel is not willing to correct this.

Now, he might be now, but he wasn't then.

If you got it wrong, you lead with your mistakes.

The next night you go on and say, you know what, I said something and I was wrong about it.

We got our facts wrong.

That's how you solve it.

But they're never willing to do it.

Look at Colbert.

The facts are you suck.

Your ratings suck.

And nobody wants to sponsor your show.

You're costing $40 million more than what the company makes.

It's not workable unless you're in a communist country.

It doesn't work.

And what does he do?

He lies.

He gets an Emmy for standing up and saying, Trump is targeting me.

It's just not, it's not workable.

I think it's not workable in a free society.

I would have been okay with Colbert if he had just come on the next day and said, actually, I said something the other day.

I made a mistake.

I do suck.

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All right, let me talk to you a little bit about Antifa.

Antifa has finally been put on the terror list

as a terrorist organization.

I want to get into this, what it takes to be a terrorist organization, but terrorism is a word that just chills you to the bone, or it should.

The Department of Homeland Security lays it out clearly.

Terrorism is the unlawful use of violence or threat of violence to intimidate or coerce a civilian population, influence government policy, or affect the conduct of government through destruction, chaos, or fear.

That's the standard.

Okay.

I think that's really clear.

To affect the conduct of government through destruction, yep, chaos, uh-huh, and fear.

Now, ask yourself, this is not going to be hard.

I'm not going to give you a lot of time to answer this question.

Does Antifa fit that description?

You knew the answer before I finished the question.

Yes, it does.

Look at Portland.

For years,

we saw coordinated campaigns where so-called anti-fascists brought not arguments, not debate, but weapons into the streets.

They occupied and shut off the FBI in their own headquarters.

Do you remember that?

Nobody did anything.

They bring bricks and Molotov cocktails, fireworks that are aimed at police

precincts and federal courts.

Businesses have been looted and burned, neighborhoods terrorized, whole blocks were seized and declared autonomous zones places where the law had absolutely no authority now is that a peaceful protest

no that is the textbook definition of using intimidation and violence to advance an ideology and intimidating the government to do what they want it to do

now DHS says that terrorism does not require an international connection.

Homegrown extremists fall under it as well.

But the criteria is really important.

Ideologically motivated violence.

Now, Antiva's stated mission is to dismantle systems of oppression, but the tools they use are firebombs and street beatings.

Targeting systems, civilians, officials, or institution.

Well, they've assaulted journalists, shopkeepers, police officers, and city employees.

In Portland, they surround the federal courthouses night after night with the explicit goal of driving the government authority out and burning the place down.

The intent to intimidate or coerce.

Ask any small business owner who had to hang a We Support BLM sign just to avoid their windows being smashed if they felt coerced.

That is textbook definition of terror.

Now, compare that to the groups already on the domestic terror radar.

White supremacist gangs, eco-terrorists, foreign-inspired extremists.

The through line on all of this is the same.

Ideology plus violence equals terrorism.

I plus V equals T.

Ideology, violence equals terrorism.

Antifa checks every single box.

Well, but yeah, but it's not a structured group.

That's a dodge.

You know it.

I know it.

It's a dodge.

Al-Qaeda didn't hand out business cards.

They didn't say, let me check with Al-Qaeda headquarters.

Let me see ISIS.

What does the CEO of ISIS have to say?

Lone wolf jihadists who pledge allegiance on a Telegram channel still gets classified as terrorism because that's the tactics and the outcome that matter.

And Tifa operates as a network, but a decentralized network, but but connected by shared symbols, shared targets, shared methods of violence.

The DHS criteria, it doesn't require corporate organization charts.

Okay, it doesn't.

Yes, but who is their CFO?

It doesn't have that.

What they require is a pattern of ideologically motivated criminal violence.

And you have it in Portland, you have it in Seattle, you have it in Minneapolis, you have it in Washington, D.C.

The pattern is over and over.

Courthouses are set on fire, police are blinded with lasers, journalists beaten in the streets, city blocks seized by force, ordinary Americans are terrified into silence.

That is terrorism.

So

the question is not whether Antifa qualifies, because they do.

The real question that America should be asking today is, why the hesitation to name what they are?

why hasn't this happened a long time ago

because once you admit that organized left-wing violence can be terrorism the narrative completely collapses it's not just angry kids in masks it's a coordinated movement that meets the dhf def the dhs definition of domestic terrorism it's no longer kids that we just need to understand it's college kids that stop believing no it's none of that Now it's coordinated terrorism.

And if we can call January 6th terrorism, and DHS did,

then intellectual honesty demands and requires that Antifa, through the same lens, is viewed the same way.

Violence is violence, coercion is coercion, fear is fear.

And

the people of Portland and Seattle and countless other cities have lived through nights of terror at the hands of Antifa.

So all that Donald Trump is doing now is just stop pretending.

That's the only thing that has changed.

He hasn't come up with some grand plan or anything else.

He's just like, let's stop pretending it's not a terrorist group.

Let's actually name what it is.

You can't defeat an enemy if you can't name it.

You know, we would have never defeated the Nazis if we said, well, the Nazis, I mean, it's just kind of a ragtag group and it's an ideology and it's not really, we would have never defeated the Nazis.

We had to name the Nazis what they were, evil, evil,

and not because of their politics.

You can be a Marxist.

Stu, what was the name of the communist we used to work with in Philadelphia?

What was his name?

Clinton.

Clinton, that's right.

And I loved the guy.

I just loved him.

He was a die-hard communist.

He worked running the board of my show.

And during the show, he would argue back and forth with me, you know, about communism.

And I'd be like,

Clinton, you're not going to win this argument, but God bless you.

You're taking a paycheck.

So, I mean,

anyway,

and God bless him.

I had no problem with Clinton.

We were friends.

We were friends.

It's not politics.

It's about what you do with the politics.

If you now take those politics and you decide you can kill people

because you disagree with them,

that's a problem.

You can just take the streets and you can burn down buildings and you can put stores

out of business.

You can firebomb streets.

That's when your ideology becomes terrorism because you've coupled your ideology

with violence.

I plus V equals T.

That's DHS, that's the law.

I want to take you to North Carolina here for just a second.

I want to take you to North Carolina in the mountains where the hum of the cicadas, you know, and the rush of the,

I think it's the

Nantalahalla, something like that, the gorge.

All of these sounds of nature just drown out the noise of the modern world.

Except on September 6th,

a a jeep grand cherokee rolled to a stop on the roadside and we have video of all of this

driver stepped out not with curiosity of a traveler like this is so peaceful a night but with malice of a vandal

right in front of him was a banner that just said trump 2024 it's a canvas of political allegiance that fluttered in the wind for months and months and months and it belonged to the mother of mark thomas he was the owner or is the owner of paddle Inn Rafting.

And to the mom, it was more than cloth.

It was conviction.

The man paused, all on video now, paused, looked around, then tore it down.

There was no debate, no discussion.

He just took somebody's private property, crossed onto it, and then took and vandalized and destroyed it.

And he did it in rage and threw the banner in the dirt.

It was garbage to him.

Then he climbed back into his vehicle and he prepared to drive off.

But he wasn't alone.

Mark Thomas had been watching him.

And first he was shocked and then he stepped outside with his rifle, you know, the kind of weapon a mountain man would keep, not for politics, but for protection and maybe to hunt and eat.

He took his rifle, fired two warning shots up in the air,

said, you're being watched.

And this isn't, this was, this was not terrorizing him.

He was saying, you're being watched, and there's going to be a consequence.

Okay, you're not free to do that.

That's when it turned really dark.

The man rolled back his sunroof, raised a firearm, a gun of his own, and fired not into the air, but toward Thomas.

The man standing on his own property under his own flag, defending nothing more

than his own property,

defending something that was so terrorizing.

It was a piece of fabric proclaiming his belief in the current president of the United States.

Bullets crack out, hit right behind Thomas.

He stands his ground.

Minutes later, the suspect circles back, making another pass, squeezing off more rounds, and then fleeing into the night with his license plate concealed.

Sheriff is called.

The investigation still ongoing.

Shots were fired.

They identified the vehicle.

And Thomas said, you know, he took my property.

I was telling him to knock it off, and he was trying to kill me.

This is

what's happening in our country.

And by the way, you know, Jimmy Kimmel will tell you today: we're trying to do everything we can to make sure that we understand that the guy who tore down that flag was a MAGA supporter.

It's again the same kind of terror that is happening.

Florida man

arrested by the FBI.

He received a,

the FBI received a tip from the man's high school friend about something that this guy was posting on social media.

His name is Michael Whitehead.

He was in his apartment at Fort Myers, Florida,

27 years old, and he wrote online, I personally will do everything I can to democide Republicans.

Hmm.

All American conservatives will be systematically erased.

Her oppressors will suffer by my hand, I promise.

Okay.

Now, he was arrested on September 10th.

The same day we were all talking about Charlie Kirk.

By that afternoon, this was going on in Florida.

Now, this guy's attorney, Whitehead's attorney, says, well, that I can see it can be misconstrued, you know, especially with politics, you know, there's a fever out there.

Well, there wasn't a fever out there on September 10th in the morning.

There wasn't a fever.

They had been investigating this guy.

They had been tipped off before there was a fever.

And I'm trying to find out, Stu,

help me misconstrue this.

All conservatives will be systematically erased.

I will personally do everything I can to democide Republicans.

What democide means is for the government,

the government to actually kill all Republicans.

Okay?

Her oppressors will suffer by my hand, I promise.

Tell me, how can you misconstrue what he just said?

This again is somebody on the left.

Political violence just gave you three examples of political violence coming from the left in the last 10 days.

This is the best of the Glenn Becker program.

Let's say hello to our good friend Peter Navarro.

Hi, Peter.

How are you?

Well, heavy heart,

as you might understand, my brother Charlie

lost him.

I knew him

going back to 2016 when I was on a campaign trail with President Trump and Canada Trump.

I thought Charlie, young kid at the time,

and I thought he was Don Quixote, to be honest.

I mean, how would you ever mobilize the youth of America, which is so left-wing?

And

lo and behold, Charlie taught us how to do that, and he's going to be missed.

And

it's a shame.

And, you know, all this this stuff with Kimmel and this, that, and the other thing.

I mean, I went to prison, so you won't have to.

The book is really a treatise on

how

the left is basically engaged in a sustained attack on

Donald Trump, his associates, and the MAGA.

movement.

And interestingly enough, I don't know if you know the full story, but for me, it started with a

raid at Reagan Airport where the FBI came.

She's the first chapter of I Went to Prison, So You Won't Have To.

It started where they

cornered me in the gangway, me and my fiancé,

dangerous ombres that we are, five armed FBI agents.

I wound up

this guy.

Her name is Bonnie Clyde.

I'm just saying.

There we go.

Yeah.

I'm 4'11 and 95 pounds of her.

And I'm like, I'm 74 years old at the time.

And the only thing I'm packing is

a sandwich for the ride.

It's kind of like...

But what's interesting about this is the agent who took me, it was a guy named Walter Giadina, FBI agent.

And it's come out subsequently because of the efforts of Senator Chuck Grassley that Giordina was part of every attempt to stop Donald Trump from getting elected in 2016, 2024, and 2020.

And when Donald Trump was in office, he was one of the insurrectionists.

And he was the guy who originally helped greenlight the Steel dossier, allegedly, as reported by whistleblowers the steel dossier was was the fake dossier that's undisputed that was manufactured by Hillary Clinton's campaign to promote the Russia hoax and and that would and and and this guy Jaredina was one of the agents who said it was real not fake and that started the whole ball rolling.

And we go through eight years of endless operations.

And my point here

is that

they put me and Steve Bannon in prison.

Everyone involved was a Democrat.

They bankrupted my good friend Rudy Giuliani with their law affair.

Jeff Clark, John Eastman, good lawyers helping President Trump.

They were trying to take their bar cards away as we speak.

Four times in four different courtrooms, They tried to put Donald Trump in prison and came pretty damn close, if you ask me.

And two assassination attempts.

And now, Charlie Kirk with a bullet in his neck by some left-wing guy groomed in the dark corners of the internet by ideology.

And this, I went to prison, so you don't have to, is it a story about the dangerous and disturbing asymmetry between this

relentless war on us

by

the left and how we're not really

responding.

And I don't know if you know this, maybe you saw the speech, but

the day I got out of prison, I wound up on the stage of the Republican National Convention in support of then candidate Trump.

I went to prison, so you won't have it was a tagline from

the speech.

But the rest of it is simply that I'm a wake-up call.

What they did to me is a wake-up call for this country that we have to do one thing.

Okay?

The five stages of grief now have one additional, and that's accountability.

Okay?

And if we don't hold these people accountable for what they did to me, to Bannon, to Trump, to Giuliani, to the Christians who

protested at abortion clinics to the school board people who, the parents who, I mean, if we don't hold these people accountable,

and they have names, and I can give you their names, then they'll do it again.

I mean, make momentum to think about it.

If we lose the House in 2026 and you put wackos

like

Jasmine Kroc and AOC

and Maxine Waters in charge of that insane asylum, otherwise known as the House of Representatives,

they will start issuing subpoenas again.

And my case, by the way, is ongoing.

Even though I did my time in prison and there's no personal reason for me to pursue the appeal, I am pursuing that appeal because my case, U.

S.

versus Peter Navarro, is a landmark case in the constitutional separation of powers and executive privileges.

And the Department of Justice has already withdrawn their opposition to my appeal and gone back to what was 50 years of support for what I was forced to do by Congress in that subpoena.

So

these are dark times, but we do have Trump in the White House.

We're getting good stuff done for the American people.

But we've got to solve this lawfare problem, Glanny, or they're just going to keep doing it.

Well, you know, I said today, Peter, that, you know, the left is saying, we don't want the government to be able to regulate and tell people they can be on the air or off the air.

And I'm like, I am.

I've done broadcast my whole life.

I'm the first to say, you want to abolish the FCC?

You want to defang the

FBI?

You want to defang all of these.

You grew them.

It wasn't constitutional lovers that did that.

It was a progressive movement on both the Republican and Democratic side.

I'm for defanging,

but they don't actually want to defang it because they want the power.

When they have the power, they want all of these rights to do what they're claiming we're doing now.

I want to defang the whole thing.

Exactly.

Do you think it's possible, Peter, that we can defang it, that Donald Trump can do it?

Well, he can do anything.

And he's demonstrating that.

I mean,

on the tariff front, I mean, I was around

during the first term.

I was one of only three people, Stephen Miller and Dan Scavino were the other two, who were there for the whole four years.

And I was like the China Hawk tariff guy, right?

And that first term, it was nothing but crosswinds and headwinds, right?

Very difficult to land the plane.

This time, I mean, everybody understands that the world's cheating us.

We're fighting back.

We're getting all sorts of revenues for the American people,

$17 trillion in new investment at last count,

and

factories, jobs, and it's just a beautiful thing.

And by the way, we're going to pay down the national debt with a tariff revenue.

So I'm bullish on that.

But on

this issue of the left, I mean,

these kids, that's a 22-year-old kid, picks up a rifle

and shoots Charlie Kirk

because

he has been trained

by folks on the internet to hate anybody who's in MAGA.

It's like, I mean,

every time they call us a fascist, right?

I mean, think about this, Glenn.

It's like, I went to friggin' prison, and everybody who put me there was a Democrat.

There were no Republicans except Liz Cheney, who put me in prison, and that that exception proves the rule, right?

Only Democrats put me in prison, put Steve Bannon in prison, prosecuted Donald Trump, tried to overthrow his government, all Democrats

and killed Charlie Kirk.

And they tell us we're the fascists.

And when they say that, And

you can see the clips, I'm sure you probably played a bunch of them.

When Chuck Tumer went after the Supreme Court,

he wound up sending a guy to

blow

Savannah's house up or burn it down.

It's like, what did they expect?

You can't,

I mean, I'm all for free speech, but

the old saw about you can't shout fire in a crowded theater, you can't be calling, I mean, Maxine Waters, I think Maxine Waters and Jasmine Crockett should be charged as accessories before the fact in Charlie Kirk's murder because

they incite this.

I mean, the hatred, you look at the internet and the crap people write these days, it's like they wouldn't say that to your face.

They'll say something on the internet.

Peter, I have to tell you, you and I both come from an old school where we wouldn't have seen that.

I think people are willing to say that to each other's face now.

I mean, the hatred is so deep.

And, you know, this idea that Donald Trump and all of his supporters are Hitler,

they actually, you know, you say it enough times and enough people start to believe it.

These people actually believe that now.

It's a sickness.

It is truly a mental illness.

And they'll say it to your face.

I mean, what's happening is

I wrote this article this week

about that.

Remember the broken window theory

that Giuliani made famous, it's the idea that if you allow graffiti on the walls and broken windows and all sorts of petty crimes going on and you don't crack down on it, then it gets worse.

And Giuliani came into New York City at its low point.

enforced the broken window theory, started cleaning up the small stuff and the big stuff went away.

That was it.

And I think we got the same same thing you're talking about, Glenn, which is that

the speech on the internet, it's like

they started small years ago.

And now

it's just, they'll say anything.

And I watch these ICE agents who have tremendous respect for.

It's like, why are we even letting people with masks get within

12 inches and scream in these people's face when they're holding like bats or other kinds of weapons.

I mean,

I'm ready for law and order, my brother.

And

I want a maskless society.

You know, the old

saying about an armed society is a polite society.

That was Robert Heinlein.

I don't remember where that came from or, you know, Charleston has to make it famous.

But

an unmasked society is a polite society.

And whether it's unmasked in public or unmasked on the internet,

I think, I don't know, we've got to turn this around

somehow.

Those with the baseball bats and the masks are the ones that are now coming out and saying that I shouldn't be able to wear a mask.

I mean, the hypocrisy is enough.

Peter, thank you so much for being on.

The name of the book is I Went to Prison So You Don't Have To, White House Senior Counselor for Trade and Manufacturing.

His story is amazing.

What he saw in prison, I mean, it'll curl your hair.

It really is.

It's a wicked story.

story.

I went to prison, so you don't have to by Peter Navarro.

Peter, we'll talk again.

Thank you so much for being on the program.