Live from TPUSA: Accused Charlie Kirk Shooter's Motive REVEALED? | Guests: Rep. Chip Roy & Ryan Mauro | 9/17/25

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There's lots of people here that I really want to

see and shake their hand.

But the one that's really been on my mind

are the members of his security team.

Greeted by one of them today.

Vigilant,

on guard.

TPUSA is in the Phoenix area.

And it's down this side street.

There's about 150 employees here.

The street's been blocked off for a week.

You drive up to a closed road, and

there's a police officer in a squad car on both ends of the block.

They have to

ask you who you are and where you're going, and

you're on a list.

Later today, about 9 a.m.

Pacific time,

it's just a few hours away.

People will start coming and walking down the street.

The fence line of the building is

enormous.

Good

city block.

And it's probably ten feet deep of

balloons and flowers and messages

for that whole block.

People coming to pay their respects.

Sunday at the stadium.

Many of us are traveling to Phoenix.

I'll be here all week.

Many people are traveling from all over the country.

Big names, no names,

people that just

want to honor him

and more encourage those who are working here

to keep going.

Don't stop.

The light is getting stronger.

It always does.

We can concentrate on the darkness.

But the darkness

can only get darker

as the light becomes stronger.

Look at a shadow.

In weak light, the shadow is

not very bold.

But as the shadows grow darker, you know the light is growing stronger.

After this broadcast, I'm going over to sit in Charlie's studio.

I brought something with me

that

I want to share with his audience.

It's a conversation, and I never thought I would share.

conversation that happened between me and Charlie, but it's the reason why I brought this box that's sitting on this table now.

Because I think his audience needs to know.

In the meantime, more nonsense is going on.

Yesterday, they read the text messages

between the killer and the transgender boyfriend, girlfriend, friend, whatever, roommate.

And I want to play it.

And I want you to gauge how you feel

and what you gain from hearing these techniques.

What knowledge do you gain from this?

Listen.

Police interviewed Robinson's roommate, a biological male who

was involved in a romantic relationship with Robinson.

The roommate told police that the roommate received messages from Robinson about the shooting and he did provide those messages to police.

On September 10th, 2025, the roommate received a text message from Robinson which said, Drop what you're doing.

Look under my keyboard.

The roommate looked under the keyboard and found a note that stated,

I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I'm going to take it.

Police found a photograph of this note.

The following exchange, text exchange, then took place.

After reading the note, the roommate responded, What?

You're joking, right?

Robinson, I am still okay, my love, but I'm stuck in Orem for a little while longer yet.

Shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I got to grab my rifle still.

To be honest, I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age.

I am sorry to involve you.

Roommate, you weren't the one who did it, right?

Robinson, I am, I am, I'm sorry.

Roommate, I thought they caught the person.

Robinson, no, they grabbed some crazy old dude, then interrogated someone in similar clothing.

I had planned to grab my rifle from my drop point shortly after, but most of that side of town got locked down.

It's quiet, almost enough to get out, but there's one vehicle lingering.

Roommate, why?

Robinson, why did I do it?

Roommate, yeah.

Robinson, I had enough of his hatred.

Some hate can't be negotiated out.

If I am able to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left no evidence.

So, what do you get out of that?

I mean, my first thought is:

why did the roommate call police immediately?

But then you can kind of go, well, maybe he still thought he was joking, maybe,

but it seems awfully specific.

The next thing I thought was: the roommate really didn't know in advance, at least according to this exchange.

I get

fact that

he thought he was going to get away with it.

He actually, I mean, that's the sign of madness.

He actually thought he would get away with it.

And I was going to keep it secret till the day I die.

And we get the moment, or we get the motive, just total hate.

Total hate.

Totally believing that your opinion is more valid than somebody else's.

And so the only way to deal with a world like that is to snuff out somebody else's opinion.

That's what I get out of it.

Now, here's what ABC

gets out of this.

Listen.

We have seen an alleged murder with such specific text messages about the alleged murder weapon, where it was hidden, how it was placed, what was on it, but also it was very touching in a way that I think many of us didn't expect.

A very intimate portrait into this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the suspect himself, with him repeatedly calling his roommate who was transitioning,

calling him my love, and I want to protect you, my love.

So it was this duality of someone who the attorney said not only jeopardized the life of Charlie Kirk and the crowd, but was doing it in front of children, which is one of the aggravating circumstances of this case.

And on the other hand, he was, you know, speaking so lovingly about his partner.

I didn't get that, Stu.

Did you get that?

Did you get how touching that was?

How romantic that was?

You didn't feel that was touching?

No, I didn't feel that was touching.

Wow, that's shocking.

I mean, he said my love

multiple times.

What's not touching about that?

Yeah.

And he also, the reporter there said something about,

my only, what is it, my job is to protect you or doing this to protect you.

That line doesn't appear in the transcript that I can find.

Can you

kind of weird, right?

Like he says that as if he has knowledge of a line that we do not have knowledge of,

which is also fascinating for many reasons.

But no, you know, Glenn, at the end of the day, didn't find it all that touching.

Yeah, interesting.

Now, that ABC news reporter is Matt Gutman.

He now says, because everybody was like, ah, Matt, that's probably a bad thing.

He now says he regrets that choice of words.

But does he, really?

Or is he just hoping just to last a couple of weeks until everybody goes back to sleep?

Do you want the quote from Matt Gutman?

He says, yesterday, I tried to underscore the jarring contrast between this cold-blooded assassination of Charlie Cook, a man who dedicated, sorry, Kirk, a man who dedicated his life to public dialogue, and the personal, disturbing texts read out loud by the Utah County Attorney at the press conference.

I deeply regret that my words did not make that clear, but let there be zero doubt here.

I unequivocally condemn this horrific crime and the pain it caused Charlie Kirk's family, those who were forced to witness it at UVU and the millions of people he inspired.

So, you know what would make that more believable?

If he wasn't working on ABC.

Now,

he may be honest on that.

I don't know.

I can't judge him.

I don't know.

But

ABC

is a cesspool.

Let me give you an example.

Here's Jimmy Kimmel.

Listen to this.

Cut three.

We had some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.

Delusional.

That is legitimately delusional.

Can we just stop for just a second before we get to the delusional part?

He's doing this in a stand-up routine.

Really?

Are we ready to laugh at the political assassination?

Are we?

Probably 15 seconds after it.

Exactly right.

Exactly right.

That's how sick and deep this goes with some people.

He's ready to put this into a comedy monologue.

Now let's get to the delusional part.

He's saying that we're so desperate to make sure that people don't associate the left with this killer, and we're doing everything we can to make sure that everybody thinks that he wasn't one of the MAGA group.

Excuse me?

It's incomprehensible.

Now, if you want to give the most grace

always do that the left never does for us.

Go ahead.

Right.

The most generous way.

I mean,

you have to factor in that Jimmy Kimmel is not the smartest person you're ever really?

But

there is a, if you think about it,

the way that maybe the left experienced all of this,

this happens,

obviously, and we know this part is true, when one of these things happens, one of the things that sadly occurs afterwards is you're hoping it's not someone from your group, right?

Like you are.

And so you desperately hope that this is not going to be you.

And then hang on just a second.

Is that true on the left now?

I'm not sure that's entirely true.

It's a great point.

If we could go back to the stuff we were talking about yesterday of the healthcare CEO murderer, I don't know that it is anymore.

But if you want to go down that road,

you have a sense of thinking, you know,

you hope it's not someone who is on your side,

if you will.

And

it's then the news came out of this family who seems to be the opposite of this, like a conservative, potentially Republican family.

And if you cut your knowledge off right there, which it seems like a lot of the people, I mean, legitimately, even people that are

it was convictable because it was convenient well yeah it got they got what they wanted and it was like la la la i don't want to hear any more evidence don't tell me anything else yep of course afterward we of course understand

i mean you still have to be delusional i think to believe it at that point because you had the bullets you had the engravings on the bullets that that had blatant

we have the love exchange right so you that but if you kind of tune it out there you maybe can get to this point

the new evidence that has come out since with his relationship with this person,

with what we know

from the family who were talking about him getting more political and having a left-wing ideology, not like a guess, not like we have to put these ingredients together to see if it bakes a cake, but the actual cake is sitting in front of us with all the icing on it.

Once we have that, in theory, you should update your analysis of the situation.

You're being far too generous.

You're being far too generous.

This is why.

I agreed.

Jimmy Kimmel

and

what's his face with the dancing injections

Stephen Colbert.

Why, those two are just despicable human beings.

They know they're lying.

They know it.

They know they are lying.

That's in a monologue.

That's not off the cuff.

That's not off the cuff.

And I do think that the analysis I presented is probably true for some

people you see online.

Not them.

Not them.

Not them.

They know them.

Not them.

Okay.

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let me explain something when we come back why

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So let me go back to your charitable

theory here on how people work.

What is the theory again quickly?

That

they were worried it was going to be someone on their side.

Evidence came out.

Oh, it's a Republican family.

And then, you know, there was the theories going around.

This is someone that thought he wasn't right enough.

And then once that comes out, you're like, phew, you let your guard down and stop following the updates.

So here's what the left does all the time that the right doesn't.

The left truly believes that the son should pay for the sins of the father, that the family is responsible

for generations back.

So once you hear that the family is conservative, it doesn't matter to them.

It doesn't matter.

My family was, you know, in Europe during slavery.

We didn't own any slaves.

Okay.

We're lucky we weren't slaves, white slaves.

You know, we were poor and everything else.

We didn't have anything to do with it at all.

And yet, I'm somehow, because I'm white, responsible for it.

It's not my family.

Not my family.

And by the way, even if it was my family, not me.

They don't separate you from the family.

And

it's fascinating because they think the family is the root of all evil.

They're trying to destroy the family.

Well, who are you going to blame when you destroy the family?

Who are you going to blame?

Because then you got to blame the individual for their actions.

But I think that's why they

can legitimately in their head just shut it off.

Oh, well, it's a conservative family.

Because

it's always the family.

It's always the sins of the father.

But all the the groups on the left that these people are involved in are inoculated from all this.

Like,

that association only goes so far, apparently, when it benefits them.

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We have Chip Roy on with us.

Chip is the

Republican Congressman from Texas, also candidate for Texas Attorney General, and we couldn't get a better attorney general than Chip Roy.

Chip, I want to talk to you a little bit about

what the New York Times is saying, a gross overreach that we are now targeting the Democrats, and we're using Charlie Kirk's death as a political tool.

by going after some of these NGOs and looking into who might be funding different things.

Can you respond to that?

Well, I think they're afraid.

That's the truth, Glenn.

They don't want us to pursue the truth.

They don't want us to expose to the American people the broad, extensive, coordinated network of radical leftists, Marxists, that are funding all of this.

Now, they think we're trying to say, oh, you know, you're saying they funded the shooting of Charlie Kirk.

Well, we'll let the authorities go investigate this and follow the law wherever it may lead.

But what I am saying is that that radical, organized, coordinated group are purposely undermining our values and our way of life, whether it's the border and all of the funding of the NGOs and all of the organizations, including, by the way, a lot of charities masquerading as faith organizations that were dumping people into our country, harming our citizens.

American citizens died, fentanyl poured into our streets, the organized funding.

like the Wren Collective that is tied to these radical DAs and Soros-funded prosecutors, judges that are letting criminals out on the street, then in dangerous, that resulted directly in the death of the Ukrainian refugee that we all saw in that horrific video, leading up to, obviously, the loss of Charlie.

But the radicalization of our schools, the radicalization of all of this stuff with the transgender efforts, all of that is not just some fanciful, like weird unicorn hippie crap.

It's actually a coordinated effort to target Western civilization and our belief system.

And they don't want us to pursue it.

We must pursue it.

And that's why I put forward a letter calling on the formation of a select committee designed to focus on it.

Now, look, if we want to run that all under judiciary or oversight, fine.

I mean, Speaker Johnson and Jim Jordan and Jamie Comer, they're all great friends.

However, we want to do it.

The purpose of the letter is to say we must do it.

It can't just be left to cash and the FBI and to Pam Bondi and to the administration.

Congress has to do our job to expose to the American people this broad network that is radicalized against our way of life.

Just to go through some of them.

2012 terrorist attack against a conservative Christian think tank, the Family Research Council.

We know somebody went in there and just shot everybody up.

Steve Scalise, shot at the Republican practice for the congressional baseball game.

The guy wanted to, he's a Bernie Sanders fan, wanted to kill everybody on the diamond, all of the Republicans.

Rand Paul, attacked by a crazy lefty on his own lawn uh supreme court justice brett kavanaugh almost assassinated print uh president trump nearly assassinated not once but twice both lefties and now charlie kirk uh was assassinated and and

i think a lot of this go ahead no go ahead no i want to point out one thing there

take an organization like the southern poverty law center

They have their heat map, right, that is directed to saying that we've got our folks who are hate organizations or uh you know somehow a threat and they put all that out there trying to radicalize their people guess who is on that list the family research council which you just pointed out was shot up by a radicalized individual right here in washington dc where a security guard got shot charlie kirk was on the southern poverty uh uh law centers uh targeted heat map and basically putting a target on Charlie Kirk.

So all of these things are coordinated.

And I didn't mean to interrupt you, but I just wanted people to understand each one of these things are connected.

You have a lot of it also that is connected directly to schools.

I mean, Arabella Advisors,

you know, you look at what these guys are doing in conjunction, just raising money and dumping it into these far-left wings.

I mean,

Chip, I've been on this since Tides Foundation was, you know, something new and breaking news.

This is a long-running practice of the left, and it's got to, it has to stop.

It has to stop because they're not only taking the money that they're raising and fomenting revolution, color revolution in our own country, but they also have found a way to our tax dollars.

And so these same organizations are getting our tax dollars to do the same.

Glenn, you know, when I've, I've followed you for a long time and, you know, you and I have now known each other for a long time.

And

the thing that I've always admired about what you've done is try to explain to the American people, even dating back to some of your TV days, where you go out there and you have the big whiteboards, right, connecting the dots.

And this is where I think Congress has been missing it.

And Republican Congress.

And we do, we do a lot of good stuff, okay?

And look,

we've been working hard in the big, beautiful bill and all the stuff you know I've been talking about, good and bad.

There's some good, some bad.

You got to herd cats.

I get it.

But we have not done a sufficient job, in my opinion, of exposing this organized, coordinated effort.

And by the way,

that is directly tied to what we were articulating a couple of years ago when we went through the speaker's fight.

And we were demanding that we create a sort of weaponization select committee.

We ended up sticking it under the Judiciary Committee, and we did some things, but the purpose there to me is much bigger and bolder than we've ever done.

I believe we need to step on the gas.

I believe that we need to expose that coordinated network and the weaponization of government that is tied to it.

That's the key element here, right?

All of those groups fomenting hate and targeting our people.

And I don't mean fomenting hate like hate speech.

That's a garbage principle, by the way.

And I hope the Attorney General is backing away from talking about, quote, hate speech.

That's a leftist, tyrannical terminology.

We don't police thoughts.

But

the focus, when you've got a hate map, that's a political tool of the left to say that, yeah, Charlie Kirk,

he's a hater, and the Family Research Council is a hater.

Why?

Because we believe in Jesus and we believe in Western civilization.

We believe in marriage.

We believe in families.

We believe in responsibility and work ethic and Western civilization.

They want to target it and go after it, and they use government to attack us for it.

They use government to undermine the Trump administration.

They use government to target law-abiding citizens and things like the FACE Act, if you dared pray at an abortion clinic.

And I could go on and on.

That's the coordinated effort we need to do a better job of exposing.

That's what my letter was all about.

I was on a conference call yesterday with a bunch of leaders on the right, and we were discussing things that need to happen, and I brought brought up some things that can't happen.

I said, you know, I hope that we are all watchdogs here, that we don't go too far, that we don't have a Patriot Act.

Because right now, the passions are running very, very high.

And we don't want another Patriot Act.

We cannot afford another Patriot Act.

I want to make sure that we're doing everything constitutionally correct, not

getting into some sort of thing that we're all going to regret down the road.

Is this all constitutional?

Is this all right in line with are you opening up a can of worms that when the other side gets a hold of this, we're going to pay for it?

Well, so I couldn't agree more, actually.

And keep in mind, what we're talking about is what I'm talking about.

Not a law, not a additional crime, not a

statute that's going to be enforced against people.

It's about saying we need to put together hearings with subpoenas and call people forward and paint a picture for the American people.

Look, we do that anyway.

All this,

that's oversight.

That's our job in Congress.

But we just need to do it with focus.

My point is, and I think you agree, we just need to do it better.

And we just need to expose this radical, radicalized network that's against our way of life.

People are going to say, oh, chip, that's McCarthyism.

No, I want to seek truth wherever it may lead.

I believe, and I've seen significant evidence of these coordinated activities.

Let's go see it.

If George Soros is just sitting on an island throwing money into the wind to get people elected, he is within his rights to do so.

If some organization wants to speak out and say they don't like our country or they don't believe in Jesus, they are free to do so.

But when you are coordinating all of that and these organizations are masquerading as things they are not, and when they are then using that to foment the kind of violence and things that are directed at our way of life, or putting criminals on the streets, or putting gang members in our neighborhoods, or funneling fentanyl into our communities, because it's a

political operation because they want more voters.

Well, that's a real problem, and that's undermining our security, and it needs to be exposed, must be exposed, and then we can go deal with it.

But I couldn't agree more.

We should not react.

Like, I'll give you an example.

We were debating yesterday in the rules committee a small provision that was added to the continuing resolution to add additional security for executive branch, judiciary, and then, yes, legislative branch officials.

It was about $88 million of funding.

Now, that's not huge in our budgetary scheme, sadly, but I raised the question, guys, how are we paying for this?

How is this going to work?

Like, sure, security, but we shouldn't react and throw everything out because we're just, oh my God, we're in a panic.

This happened.

This is terrible.

We should follow our normal procedures, make reasoned, collective judgments about what is good for the country.

And I believe the country deserves to know the truth about organizations they think are innocent that are out there fomenting a lot of the things that are undermining their liberty, their security, their way of life.

Talking to Chip Roy, who's running for Texas Attorney General, he is currently a congressman, one of the best congressmen in Washington.

Let me switch gears.

How long do you think this is going to last,

this

at least attempt at unity?

You know, especially after what you saw happen with Luigi Mangion

in court yesterday, people in the courtroom cheered when they said, you know, they had to throw out the murder in the first degree charge.

They cheered.

Well, I don't really put much stock in whatever people are saying about, quote, unity at the moment, whether that's unity that people are saying we need to unite across our ideologies or even within, frankly, the Republican Party per se.

Unity without purpose that are binding us together under a shared set of values is not unity.

Like, what are we united to do and accomplish?

I said this in so much in the letter, that we're not, we can't force being bound together.

You are bound together based on your commitment to a shared belief system.

And you either believe in Western civilization, believe in God, believe that our Western civilization is built on those principles, or you don't.

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Pat Gray is joining us now from the studios in Dallas.

Hello, Pat.

Hello, Glenn.

Stu.

Welcome.

Thank you.

So we're sitting here, we're in the studios of Turning Point USA in Phoenix, Arizona today.

I'm going to be filling in for Charlie

in just about two hours from now.

What is your take on all of this?

Oh, well, like everybody else is just devastated.

It's been

incredible to see

the impact it's had on my family.

Everybody in the family is just devastated by it.

Everybody.

Absolutely devastated.

Yeah.

You know, for somebody they've never met

but watched a lot, I mean, they really...

They really felt a powerful connection to him.

He really made a difference.

I mean, he really cut through.

He was into my children's life.

Yeah.

And I don't know about your wife or your wife, Pat, but my wife cannot stop with the Erica stuff.

She just can't stop.

She's watching all over everything.

She just can't stop.

And I'm like, honey,

don't show it to me.

I can't do it.

I just can't do it.

It's so hard.

I know.

And we were playing some of what Erica said.

in that video on Friday, on Monday, and I could barely keep it together.

It's just, it's so difficult to see her in these circumstances.

It's been really tough, really, really tough.

And then, you know, to see the other side of it has just been one of the most incredible things I've ever witnessed.

We've never seen anything like this.

I've never seen people rejoice.

I mean, you had a little of that with the Mangioni thing, with the Luigi thing where he shot the UHC CEO.

Still have some of that.

But I've never seen anything to this extent.

And it just doesn't make any sense to me, except it's somebody that stood for things they just hate.

You know, Christianity.

Can you imagine what they would be saying about all of us if we reacted this way and it was the opposite?

Oh, my gosh.

And it never would.

Oh.

Never would.

No.

Pat, do you agree with the take that the

healthcare CEO murderer

is a precursor to this?

I kind of feel like it is.

I feel like the fact

the way he was embraced with open arms, I think created

several more of these situations.

It's exactly the same with the crime.

If you're not punished for burning down a city, it just increases the odds that Antifa is going to burn down cities.

They're incentivizing this every single step of the way.

And I don't think they're stopping.

I really don't.

I pray that the unity that we have right now on the right,

on principles, continues the way it is.

I pray that this isn't just a, you know, like after, you know, 9-11, a week, and then it just goes back to normal.

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Ryan Morrow is a guy who's been on this program several times.

He is the Capitol Research Center investigative researcher and one of the best researchers I know.

He's a counterterrorism expert.

He is joining me now.

He says he has the smoking gun that President Trump needs to take on the Soros network

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We're glad you're here.

Thanks for having me.

So, Ryan, first of all, I know how you felt about Charlie Kirk and condolences on that.

And thank you for everything that you're doing right now.

I think this is so important, especially in the wake of his martyrdom.

Yeah, thank you.

And it's an honor really to be part of,

you know, your friend and to be part of your team and trying to make a difference so that this doesn't go unanswered and so that hopefully some greater good comes about as a result of this.

So I remember you and I met, oh,

how many years ago?

And

we sat together and we talked about taking on George Soros and how important.

Do you remember that conversation?

I do.

It was we were discussing our mutual friend Phil Haney who had passed

and the way forward.

And so you have been doing research

and you are a great researcher and you've been doing research.

And what can you share now?

I know you want to make a big announcement when we're together again with the Charlie Kirk show,

but what can you give us as a preview?

Well, what I can say is, is that i believe that myself and my colleagues at capital research center have done the most extensive investigation into the soros network's funding of extremists that i think was ever conducted um and the results are shocking and it should change the game it should equip the trump administration with what they need in order to take action we don't have to have a debate about free speech versus hate speech.

If you look at the IRS code, nonprofits are not allowed to be engaging in criminal activity.

They're not allowed possibly to even be encouraging it if you look at the language.

And what we have found is many millions of dollars going to things like that.

And right now, I'm holding in my hand about 100 pages of evidence that we're about to drop with you.

And so I think it's safe to say that today the counteroffensive begins.

Yeah, we are going through the 100 pages ourselves right now.

We got it from you last night, and we're furiously going through all of the pages.

It's

pretty remarkable

what you have found.

What's your level of comfort on saying 100% correct?

They almost never say this, but it's 100% correct.

And to give you an idea of why I'm so confident, there's a related report that I did for Cavalier Shoot Center called Marching Towards Violence, where we mapped out all the groups that were organizing the anti-Semitic, anti-American protests after the October 7th attacks.

And we identified over 150 pro-terrorism groups that basically manufactured all of that.

And this is very similar.

There's some overlap.

And here is what one of the media outlets connected to that seditionist movement, Truth Out, actually said.

They said that our report is a, quote, existential threat that could easily mean a quick death for most of the groups, especially the nonprofits, by getting their tax exempt statuses revoked.

And those that survive, this group said, would suffer what they called mass chaos.

So the extremists have told us that we've discovered how to defeat them.

You know, it's amazing to me that these guys have gotten away with it for so long.

I mean, when I started, you know, going after the Tides Foundation and

showed America how the shell game was working, they've only gotten more bold and much, much more dangerous, all the way into using our tax dollars to funnel money into overthrowing us.

Why haven't we gotten serious about this until now?

I think it's so brazen that it's hard for people to believe that there's actually something bad going on.

I mean, there's a few things going on, which is where it's so in your face that people say, well, I mean, if it was really that bad, then someone would have done something about it.

And then they look elsewhere.

There have been exposés done about grants going from some of these big billionaire-funded organizations, going to these extremes groups, but it comes in drips and drabs.

So what we've done is we've brought it, in the case of Soros, brought it all together into one spot, found many, many, many more financial transactions using their own records

in order to illustrate for the first time, I think, so people understand that this is an infrastructure.

This is a movement.

And as scary as that is, it also means it can be taken down.

We can confront them, and this is something that we can win.

You know, it's amazing to me.

I think there's three countries.

I know it's Hungary, I think it's Singapore, and I think there's another one that have banned George Soros and his allies.

You can't operate in those countries because they know the damage that he does, and they know, and

they've just said it out loud.

Do you think we're going to get to a place to where we can start doing things like that?

Well, I think we're at that point.

I think when this comes out and people realize what the IRS code says a tax-exempt organization can do and cannot do, and how blatantly it's being crossed, that this is no longer a heavy list.

It's just a matter of willpower and coordination, making sure everybody that can make something happen actually does it and is all operating.

They're all on the same page.

And as bad as the threat is, and as quickly as it's escalating, I think we can rapidly push it back.

And when people see that like Soros is funding so many groups that endorse the October 7th attacks, I think you'll even see Democratic voting and left-wing supporting groups back away and say, you know what, I don't want to touch this.

We are,

like I said, we're going over the research ourselves and we'll probably end up doing a giant chalkboard on it once we get through it.

But I I want you to know, I'll personally give it to the president myself to make sure that he sees it because

you've done yeoman's work here

and done a lot of the work for the FBI and everybody else.

I mean,

it's not hard to see where it is.

It is hard to prove it and to track it down and make sure that everything is buttoned up.

And you've done a lot of that work already.

So thank you for that.

Thank you so much, Bun.

It's great to know that finally action will be taken with your help and that just for everyone listening out there, like civilians can make a difference.

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Can you talk about Occupied Turtle Island?

I know we've talked about this before, but I'd like you to go into that again because it kind of goes into

what you're going to talk about here coming up in a couple of hours.

Sure.

So this is a term that everyone needs to familiarize themselves with because this is how you know when a group is radical, very often our times are hiding it.

They will refer to the United States as either the so-called United States or Occupied Turtle Island.

And it comes to this myth that the Native Americans, before the evil white settlers showed up, referred to the entire continent as Turtle Island.

And what they do is, by referring to the U.S.

as Turtle Island, they're saying, we do not recognize the right of the United States to exist.

And if you do not have a right to exist, then you should be destroyed.

And it's the same template that they use against Israel when they refer to it as occupied Palestine.

So these groups that are supposedly just anti-Israel,

then refer to the U.S.

as occupied Turtle Island.

They have the same exact agenda for both of us.

And if you look at the foreign governments that support them, if you look at what the words of the extremists of all kinds say that are part of this movement, their big gamble is that Americans can be triggered, provoked, to rip America apart along racial lines, along political lines.

and that our civil discourse, our civil society will be so poisoned that it'll cease to function and that people will become more like Tyler Robinson supporters and their rhetoric will be more like that and less like the love you would see from Charlie Kirk.

I mean, you look at some of the longer email, the longer videos of Charlie Cook that sometimes didn't always go viral and you can see the love he had for the people he was defeating at times.

And that for me

made me a better person.

That impacted me more than any opinion he expressed or argued for.

I think that's why he affected so many people.

He really did love the people he was debating.

He really didn't have hatred in his heart for any of them.

I mean, you know, he became a Christian.

He was baptized in 2018, I think.

And he lived his faith.

He lived his faith and was really trying to live a life very much like Christ.

And, you know, not a perfect guy by any stretch of the imagination, but man, better than I am, better than I probably have ever been,

you know, living his life.

Let me ask you about one other thing.

Let me put a full screen up.

This is Kristen Hawkins, president of Students for Life.

A side-by-side picture of a Charlie Kirk memorial at UNC Wilmington.

One before it was vandalized, and one picture now spray-painted with trans pride colors.

So vandalize after.

Have you heard of

Trantifa?

Have you heard that term?

I have.

Oh, yeah.

It's like a militia-type movement.

And they've used that term to describe themselves, by the way.

So it's not really offensive.

How real is Trantifa?

How extensive is that?

And have you seen any funding going toward groups that would call themselves Trantifa?

I've seen funding, including from Soros' network, going towards groups that ally themselves with Antifa terrorists, for sure.

We're going to show that.

Trans Tifa would be a subset of that.

So you can make that connection exists.

But more broadly, I mean, I've been studying and monitoring extremists and getting to law enforcement intelligence about these types of people for many years, reporting thousands of them.

And so I saw this militia-type Trans Tifa movement really growing, and it's real.

Like, I've seen them own MMA gyms.

I've seen them doing, they're very pro-gun, actually,

because you have to have a militia.

And

I've seen them actually radicalize what you would consider to be almost like right-wingers with this anarchist rhetoric about minimal government or no government and gun rights.

And that's why the more I monitor this, the more I feel like the framing of some of this needs adjustment because all of these diverse extremists kind of go into one

global seditionist movement is what I call it.

All of us, as much as we disagree, have so much more in common with each other than all of these extremists that want to burn everything to the ground.

I know.

I know.

I know.

And yet they'll stand together,

you know, and plan on killing each other after

they win against us.

And for some reason, we just can't stand together.

Thank you so much, Ryan.

We'll talk to you in a couple of hours.

Appreciate it.

Okay, thanks, Clinton.

Thank you.

You bet.

Ryan is going to be joining me on the Charlie Kirk show because of his relationship with Charlie Kirk.

He really wanted to announce it on Charlie's show, and I think it's absolutely appropriate.

But it's big breaking news, and it is the key that the president will need to begin to take down George Soros and a lot of his NGOs.

Ryan seems to have the goods,

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One of the big pieces of pushback from the left since all of this happened was actually, no, there's no rise in this

trans violence, this trans aggressiveness.

That's not a real thing.

This is something the right is made up.

And actually,

the overwhelming majority of incidents when it comes to political violence come from the right, Glenn.

I'd like to see the evidence of that.

I would love to see the evidence of that.

And the timeline, too.

I heard one of the last questions with Charlie Kirk.

In the last 10 years, was it 10 years or 20 years?

In the last 10 years.

Yeah, you're right.

Well, really?

Well,

this is a pretty new problem.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

When you go back, the farther you go back, I've seen people even try to push it back to the 60s.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

They're like, okay, well, if you go back to the 60s, it's like, all right, no, you're right.

The trans violence problem was probably not all that large in 1965.

We're talking about something that's very recent and

explicit.

I mean, we've seen covers of magazines where trans people are opposing with firearms

to show that

you should be intimidated by them.

The trans activist organization with the red star, you know, the Marxist communist star, has the trans people with automatic weapons.

I mean, that's...

part of the deal.

Yeah, there was an organization called, what was it,

Armed Queers of Salt Lake City City.

that deleted their account immediately after this.

Yeah, wonder why.

I wonder why.

I know the FBI is looking into him.

I talked to Aaron Sebarium, who has an exclusive on that, and they're looking into

not only that person or that organization, but a bunch of the people.

If you saw in the moments after the horrible incident with Charlie Kirk,

there were a lot of people who seemed to have prior knowledge of it that had tweeted specific things like, I'd hate to see this happen on September 10th, right?

Things like that.

And you, some of them, some of them honestly might have very well just been people who wanted it to happen.

Well, they knew when he was coming.

Yeah, they knew when he was coming.

So it's possible and probable that some of those people were not related to it.

Some of them, though, are

it would be the

coincidence of all coincidences if they had no knowledge or nothing to do with it.

Could have been the case, but hard to believe.

And the fact that a lot of these people were tied to these radical trans groups, some of them even, one of them in particular, following in advance of the murders, the roommate of the murderer.

Now,

that is,

I mean,

again, that's a heck of a coincidence, if that has nothing to do with it.

Maybe that's true.

I'm sure.

I do have some faith in Cash Patel that he's not going to overlook something like that if there is something really to look at.

100%.

I am glad Cash Patel and Dan Bongino and President Trump are the ones in charge.

Not don't necessarily feel that way about Pam Bandi.

You know, I start to get a little better with Pam Bandi, and then I go back down the hill.

You know what I mean?

This whole hate speech thing is really disturbing.

We're going to get into that in a minute, but I find that really disturbing.

But Cash Patel, I think, is doing a fantastic job.

I actually know.

Corey Booker was yelling at him yesterday, so we know he was not doing a good job.

Whenever Corey.

Do we have a minute to play this, Sarah?

Oh, no, please don't.

Oh, go ahead.

Cut six, please.

Oh, no.

Corey Booker.

That

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If you want to work on bringing this country, it's my time, not yours.

My God.

My God.

If you want to talk about finding this country, it is a lot of people.

I follow you on your social media posts quite fixed

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Oh, you're not.

You try all you need to do.

You can't not say your results my time for one matter

this is so unproductive but the reason why cash patel said it's my time my time

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I'll be filling in for Charlie Kirk in his studio coming up in about an hour and a half.

Should I be concerned here, Glenn?

What do you mean?

I'm learning that you are on the cover of the Jerusalem Post.

I heard that yesterday.

And then also you're on the air today wearing an armband.

And I feel like those two things probably don't lead to good headlines.

Really?

yeah

can you explain either one of them to me please I can't explain the cover of the Jerusalem post you can't it's no I can you

well I mean I

it does seem to be

okay so now I'm seeing the the the context of the article which is better than what I was hoping for you didn't even know the context well I mean I knew the basic I knew you were on the cover it's I see the picture of you but it does underneath top 10 Christian voices for Israel right And

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Yeah, looking to.

See who's on the top 10?

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Yeah.

It's an honor.

I don't know if that makes it

safer for me to walk around.

Oh, gosh, no.

It's a terrible,

terrible for that.

But I will say, are you trying to

even that out by wearing a fascist armband?

Like you said to be doing that.

Is that what it is?

A fascist armband.

You don't know what it is.

I feel like the armband.

Do you know what it is?

Yeah, well, I feel like

let's say about 90 years ago,

the whole armband thing started going out of style.

Yeah.

Yeah.

In certain circles.

Certain circles embraced it.

I just up until about 1950, maybe, maybe, because I'm just a history buff.

I just think it's appropriate in this case.

Up until about 1940, 1950, if you had a death in the family, you would wear a black armband.

And

it would just denote that you were in mourning.

And I've never done that for a family member or anything else, but

I thought for Charlie Kirk, I thought it was appropriate.

And I actually remembered it because

I was in Idaho and I was in a parking lot of a grocery store and this guy comes up and he's wearing a t-shirt and he had taken black

I don't even know what you call it.

You know that kind of tape they use now if you get like your blood drawn and they use that tape.

They just put it around your, you know, and it's kind of sticky, but not.

Sure.

He had taken black tape, whatever that kind of tape is, and he had put it around his arm.

And

he walked up to me and he said, I'm with you, brother.

And I didn't have an armband.

And he pointed to that.

And I said,

is that a morning armband?

And he said, yeah, I just made it.

I didn't have a cloth or anything.

I just made it because I want people to know I'm thinking about Charlie Kirk.

And I just thought that was a cool gesture.

And so,

yeah, that's, it's, it's, it's either that or a black shirt armband from

the Times in Italy.

I'm not.

I'm not sure which one.

Of course, it's for Charlie Kirk.

Yeah, I did not know that people did that, honestly.

I was sort of thinking that maybe you were just constantly monitoring your blood pressure, which would actually be a good move for you.

This week, especially this week.

It would be.

It would be.

Especially when you look at what's happening with

Pam Bondi and now President Trump yesterday.

Yeah, I'm not sure where this is going.

It feels like not a good place.

Not a good place.

Not a good place.

Pat, do you have that audio?

Yeah, it's COT20 where the president stops and answers a whole bunch of press questions like he always does when he was preparing for his trip to Europe.

And John Carl asks him a question.

And what do you think Cam Bondi says?

She's going to go after hate speech.

Is that, I mean, a lot of people, a lot of your allies say hate speech is free speech.

She'll probably go after people like you because you treat me so unfairly.

It's hate, you have a lot of hate in your heart.

Maybe I'll come after ABC.

Well, ABC paid me $16 million recently for a form of hate speech, right?

Your company paid me $16 million

for a form of hate speech.

So So maybe they'll have to go after you.

Look, we want everything to be fair.

It hasn't been fair.

And the radical left has done tremendous damage to the country.

But we're fixing it.

We have right now the hottest country anywhere in the world.

And remember, one year ago, our country was dead.

And now Washington,

D.C.

is fixed.

And I fix it.

The mayor was fine.

The mayor was just fine.

The mayor had the sick city for many years.

He's been mayor for many years.

The one that fixed it was me and my people.

And it is so safe.

You should take your beautiful wife tonight and have dinner down there.

You won't be shot.

You won't be accosted.

You won't even be looked at incorrectly by anybody.

So I

don't like the idea that he's saying we're going to go after you.

That's more of him just

hustling with

him with the reporters.

But we don't have hate speech.

That is something from the left.

That is not something from the right.

If you start getting into the hate speech, you end up being England.

If we start saying there is hate speech, well, when the other side is in, they'll deem what we say is hate speech.

No, there is no such thing as hate speech.

You cannot be arrested or fined or anything else for what you say unless it directly leads to violence.

Directly leads to violence.

The Supreme Court is very clear on that.

This is why we have a First Amendment.

I can't believe we're the ones defending this.

We're separating, of course, threatening speech from hate speech.

It's just speech you don't like.

You don't want to hear it.

And we've talked a million times.

That's the only kind of speech that needs protection.

Nobody cares about, hey, I love you speech.

We don't mind that.

Nobody has to protect that.

But what Pam Bondi said the other day was absolutely chilling.

Absolutely chilling.

First of all, it's unconstitutional.

It's un-American and it's wrong.

Second, even if you're comfortable with the Trump administration and Pam Bondi prosecuting speech, what happens when another Democrat is elected?

Yeah, when Trump is no longer in office and it's, heaven forbid, Kamala Harris, are you going to be comfortable with it then?

I don't think so.

We got to nip this in the comfortable with our side.

You know, and Charlie, you know, as we mourn the loss of Charlie Kirk, this is something he felt really passionate about, too.

He wasn't for prosecuting hate speech.

He was for talking things out, and he showed that thousands of times.

And he was specifically against the hate speech stuff.

Yeah, he actually tweeted this.

This is in 2024.

He tweeted this.

Hate speech does not exist legally in America.

There's ugly speech.

There's gross speech.

There's evil speech.

And all, in capital letters, of it is protected by the First Amendment.

Keep America free.

Now, that is as clear a statement as you can possibly make on this.

What a fascist, huh?

What a fascist.

All speech is free.

My gosh, why don't we just goose step through Charlie Kirk's life?

My gosh, how could you possibly say that about him?

That's an amazing statement.

And it's infuriating

as what was written or engraved into these bullets about him being a fascist.

Listen to what he

none of these people even know.

That's one of the things that's so frustrating about it.

It's the same thing, Pat, with the guy in, you know, killing the healthcare CEO.

He had this statement about the healthcare system, and it wasn't even a middle school understanding of the liberal argument.

He didn't even know what he was talking about.

He wasn't even a good.

Yeah, he didn't even know what he was talking about.

Obviously, the same thing here.

This guy, he's saying, oh, he had been planning this for a week is the most recent situation.

He was only planning it for a week.

He seemingly knew nothing about what Charlie Cook actually stood for.

And yet here we are as a country, as his family mourning all of this over what?

Over

an attention-seeking moron.

It's so frustrating.

And the comment from the shooter that he couldn't tolerate his hate any longer.

And then to

shoot somebody down in cold blood,

he didn't understand the definition of hate.

Speaking to people and conversing and having a dialogue and trying to influence hearts and minds is, that's not hate.

Hatred is when you do violence against people.

That's the hate.

And that disconnect with the left is really startling and kind of a concern, I would say, at this point.

Yeah.

And when you see, like, I think there's been maybe, I don't know, four people on the left that have actually reacted to this in a sane way.

But when you see them at you, you realize that.

Yeah, wow.

I mean, I may be overcounting.

You might be.

Ezra Klein's a good example of this that I thought he, both of his statements, first of all, he came out and said, you know, Charlie Kirk, I didn't agree with him, but he was doing politics the right way.

He was going to colleges.

He was debating people.

And then when the left wing, his audience, pushed back against him, he stood his ground and said, this is, if it's affected him in a real way.

And, and, and, you know, look, this shouldn't be, this shouldn't be an argument.

This should not be a borderline issue.

Uh, yet, I, you know, Pat, I keep saying this all over.

I, I, I hope it's a minority, but it, the fact that how this, this many people are willing to stand up publicly and film themselves reacting to a murder this way

is legitimately shocking even to people like us who are a tad jaded.

Yeah,

yeah, Yeah.

No question.

A tad?

Completely.

If a tad, by that you mean completely jaded.

Yeah, it's accurate, I would say.

I mean, Pat, you have to give me a break.

I'm working with a guy who's wearing an armband.

That's right.

Now,

that's not an armband celebrating armed queer Salt Lake City, though, is it?

Yeah, I think you can.

I can't believe that.

Well, is that what they meant by arms?

Is that what they meant by arms?

I'm not sure.

Maybe.

Yeah.

Okay.

Well, we'll see.

We'll see.

Okay, coming up in a minute, we have, there's a great story.

Let me see where this is from.

The Federalists, they did the five lies about Charlie Kirk.

And these are the lies that are going around about him everywhere.

And it is stunning when you actually hear what people are saying.

And then, you know, if you've watched Charlie Kirk or knew Charlie Kirk for more than five minutes, you know, all of these things are lies, but most people don't.

And so we're going to debunk those five lies on Charlie Kirk from the Federalists coming up in just a second.

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We are in Turning Point, USA, their facilities today, getting ready in about an hour to move over to another one of their buildings.

This campus is really unbelievable.

And we're going to be moving over to Charlie's building where his studio is.

His staff could not join us at 4 o'clock in the morning.

They were like, can you guys work in another studio and set it up yourself?

We're like, yes, we can.

They haven't had any sleep at all for days.

But we're going over there, so I'm going to do that show.

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So if you can, make sure you're listening to Charlie's show.

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And then I think I'm doing part of another show after that.

Oh, that's it?

Oh, yeah.

Wow.

That's it.

Well, the good news is

you look exhausted already.

So you got that going for you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Pat.

I appreciate that.

I appreciate that.

Yeah, no problem.

It's been exhausting.

I can't imagine what everybody feels like here.

I mean,

you know, we hadn't mentioned this, but this is one week.

We are here one week after this happened.

Oh, my gosh, you're right.

This is last Wednesday.

You know, I mean, a week ago, you know, he was doing a show.

Isn't this

Pat and Stu, you were with me on 9-11.

Isn't this

the closest thing we have to compare this to?

I mean, this feels like 9-11.

I remember.

I don't feel like it.

Right?

Yeah.

I mean, wake up with that.

I would go for it.

It's just my stomach every day.

Yeah.

And I'd wake up, or I mean, I'd be totally fine.

This happened to me today, right before we went on the air.

Totally fine.

And then all of a sudden, just like choke up with emotion.

And you're like, I'm going to cry again.

And

I haven't gone through that since 9-11.

It feels like the country's changed.

That's what it feels like.

It really feels like we've lost something serious.

And that's the same feeling I had after 9-11.

I feel like we've gained something, though.

It might be a change.

I mean, and this would be very much consistent with the name turning point and Charlie's project as a whole.

But maybe it leads to something really positive.

And it's certainly not

an event that you'd ever wish for, but

I think if something like this were to have happened, if Charlie had knowledge of it, certainly what he would hope for is that I think number one, people came to Christ over it.

And I think that's happening.

I think it's happening massively

across the world.

All over the world.

Yeah, all over the world.

You're right.

All over the world.

We're seeing this in countries all over the world.

People who hadn't gone to church.

I mean, I can't tell you how many posts I've seen on social media where people are saying, I haven't been to church in five years, and 10 years, and 15 years, and I'm going this weekend.

And it's not, it doesn't strike me like on 9/11,

people went to church the next Sunday because everybody was afraid.

Yeah, and that's the thing.

I don't think that's the feeling here.

I think the feeling is

this pull of God, you know, this pull of

there's something more important here, something we're missing, something that will help me make sense of everything in the world.

Do you agree with that?

Yeah, I think so.

It's different.

But the feeling, there's a lot of similarity as well.

It feels that impactful.

It does.

It does.

And it is.

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So we arrived about 4,430 this morning at Turning Point USA, and it is an odd place to be right now.

The workers hadn't come in.

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Pat is here.

He's in our Dallas studios.

Stu and I are out in Phoenix.

We were just talking about the five lies that are going around about Charlie Kirk.

And

it's reprehensible on what is going on because the people who are saying these things, who are starting these things, They really need that.

I mean, they know.

They know.

Like Stephen King, really.

You really think that Stephen King, you really think that Charlie Kirk is for the stoning of gay people?

I do think, though, a lot of these people

have

an image of everyone on the right.

That shows how unbelievably isolated you are.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Now, King, you know, in particular, I think, like, I don't think Stephen King was lying on that.

I think he's, you know, I don't think he's the, you know, the sharpest knife in the drawer.

He's got to be.

You can't write like he does.

He's not an idiot, right?

He's not like he can form thoughts, but I think he is so completely isolated in his bubble that, you know, like, you know,

if someone says something terrible about a person like Charlie Kirk and your image of him is he's basically Hitler.

Well,

you don't spend time fact-checking it.

You're like, oh, of course, that guy's that, he's that terrible human being.

Of course he said something like that.

You don't even bother to to check it you know i mean and i you know it's like

you know if you if you ran into a quote from hitler you had never seen that was negative on jews you you know you as a journalist you should probably check it but like you might think oh yeah that was probably true he said a lot of things like that that's how they think about people who are like normal conservatives who want lower taxes and less regulation and that is really really disturbing So these lies are really prominent.

People really believe these things.

So there's a couple of them.

Here are the five.

The first one is Charlie Kirk said black people were better off in slavery.

How big of an idiot do you think you have to be to believe that?

Okay.

I mean, unless you're Crockett, unless your last name is Crockett, and I don't mean Davey.

Black Americans were better off than slavery.

No, that's absolutely

not true.

He never said anything like that.

Now,

what you're probably getting this from, and I'm going searching, I mean, I am on a metal, I'm with a metal detector on the beach with, you know, board shorts and sandals and socks looking for anything that kind of even sounds like that.

But Charlie Kirk did say that, you know, they were talking about Jim Crow and how evil Jim Crow was.

But he said, but if you look at the family, the black family before the passage of the Civil Rights Act, which ended the Jim Crow laws, he he said the family was thriving.

And it was.

It was.

Blacks had a lower divorce rate than whites did in, I think, 1961.

Their families were stronger.

Dads were in the homes.

They had lower crime rates.

I mean,

something happened.

Around the time of the Civil Rights Act.

Now, my theory is the Civil Rights Act

was done by progressives.

I mean, these are the guys who said no to the Civil Rights Act just four years before

and

worked hard to stop the Civil Rights Act.

So, what changed in those four years?

The assassination of President Kennedy, that changed your mind?

Not even.

Not even.

I mean, Johnson was the biggest racist

up until he died.

Why would he create the great society?

My theory, this is just a theory, but my theory is, is because finally the progressives had a way to

keep blacks under their thumb and destroy the family and destroy them as people.

I mean, the Civil Rights Act and more of the great society, the great society did more damage to the black family than

anybody could have done outside of Margaret Sanger.

I think that's what he meant by that.

It was evil,

you know, Jim Crow, et cetera, et cetera.

But if you look at the numbers on specifics, family, et cetera, et cetera, blacks were doing better as families before the Great Society.

And I think that undoing is absolutely,

is absolutely tied to it.

And it was intentional myself.

I believe that.

Also, the next claim is that Charlie Kirk said black women have inferior intelligence.

No, that's not what he said.

Now, they're quoting him saying that black women don't have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously.

How bad does your image have to be of people on the other side to believe that they could say that?

That Charlie Kirk could say that.

I mean, just like, if you were to...

You know, I think about this a lot of times when I think about how we react to crazy statements on the left.

Like, my my reaction a lot of times, when I hear someone saying that, is wait a minute.

Yes.

Even if they believe that, they wouldn't just blurt it out.

What is the context of this?

I want to know.

I want to understand.

That should be your first question when you want to do a quote like that.

Go to Snopes.

They rate this one true.

This is true.

They rate it absolutely true.

Until you get to the last paragraph when they say, well, no,

we should point out, he wasn't talking about all black women.

Okay.

He was talking about four specific black women.

Oh.

Okay.

Oh.

So talking about Joy Reed, absolutely true.

Sheila Jackson Lee, absolutely true.

Katanji Brown Jackson, Jackson Brown, absolutely true.

Well, she's not a biologist, Glenn.

No, she's not.

She doesn't know

what a woman is.

I'm not a biologist.

I'm not a biologist.

I don't know.

I don't know how to do that.

And Michelle Obama, which I don't think is true.

I think Michelle Obama is actually rather smart and conniving and just flat-out evil.

Yeah, there's a mix there.

I mean, Katanji Brown Jackson, you know, for all of the flaws I would have with her as a Supreme Court justice, obviously isn't a moron, but she is, I mean, well, I would say so to my or you could, I would be more confident in saying she's a moron, though I am,

for the job that she has, Katanji Brown Jackson is a moron.

You know, Joy Reed is a complete idiot.

Was it Sheila Jackson Lee?

Yeah.

Again, those two I think would fall into the same category.

And you're right, Michelle Obama, I would not call an idiot.

But, you know, again, criticizing four members of a group does not mean you're criticizing the group.

He was criticizing people he thought

were unqualified to make statements of any intelligence on whatever topic it was that he was talking about.

And what they did is they said, he thinks that all black women are just dumb.

I mean, that is so incredibly dishonest.

Charlie Kirk said that gun deaths, unfortunately, worth it to keep the Second Amendment.

This is one I've heard actually a lot.

This is one that a lot of people on the left are using as justification for their celebration.

He said, you know, well, you just got to deal with the deaths if you want to have a Second Amendment.

And, you know, I don't know if you have the context.

I have his answer right here.

Ready?

You will never live in a society where you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death.

That's nonsense.

It's drivel.

But I am.

I think it's worth it.

I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so you can have the Second Amendment right to protect your other God-given rights.

It's a prudent deal.

It is rational to think that way.

I mean, and every time, if you have a free society, you take risks with it.

There will always be people, horrible, horrible human beings that all seem to donate to Democrat causes that will do things

like we saw one week ago today.

And that is, you know,

again, he can't speak for Charlie Kirk.

He spoke for himself so eloquently.

But, you know,

even what occurred last week would not change his mind on that.

He would not say, well, we should, now that something terrible has happened to me and my family, we should overturn the Second Amendment and people shouldn't have a right to defend themselves.

You know that's how he would feel about it.

And this is, if anything, pointing to his incredible consistency on the rights that we have in this country.

You know, it is a

sad, unfortunate fact about so many things.

It's a sad, unfortunate fact about automobile travel that you do have to deal with some automobile accidents when you have highways where you can drive 55, 65, 75 miles an hour.

It's unreasonable to think that you could live in

a society with automobiles and not have some automobile accidents.

It is absolutely true.

That is exactly what he said about guns.

And frankly, the other thing that's important here to understand is if you did eliminate all guns, you would not eliminate all murders.

Oh,

they did in England.

Oh, they did?

There's no murder there.

Wow, I didn't realize there was no violent crimes there.

I keep reading about them.

Is that all false?

It's all false.

Yeah, that's Donald Trump.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Last one, Charlie used an Asian slur.

Now, I'm not going to use the slur, obviously.

I'm just going to say it's what happens sometimes with armor.

There's a very famous saying about armor that has nothing to do with the Chinese or Asian at all.

But I'm not even going to put those together in this context now for you.

You'll have to figure figure that out.

But

the thing that's going around is he used that slur to yell at an Asian woman in the audience.

Now, again, what kind of monster?

You should know on its face that's false.

You shouldn't even have to look it up.

You should know that's false.

I mean, how stupid would Charlie Kirk have to be?

Okay.

So, you know,

there's nothing like that.

Well, I'm sorry.

He was screaming something at a woman

when they were talking about capitalism,

and he was yelling, sank.

Not the other word.

Okay.

Okay.

Sank.

And who is that?

From the young Turk.

The guy from Turkish Guys.

Right.

That's what he was saying.

That's what he was saying.

Oh, gosh.

I mean, that's just so bad.

You know, like

the other one was the Stephen King situation where he quoted some horrible thing that Charlie Kirk said.

And again, he admitted eventually that it was false.

But

he was quoting someone else

in an incident and critiquing

that position,

which was a bad position, but

he was bringing it up to quote it and critique it, which is a very standard thing that they've done on the left.

I mean, this is a standard tactic of media matters.

When you're quoting someone else or you're saying something,

they'll act as if you say it.

You repeat a lie often enough and the public will remember it.

Glenn beck is quoting hitler glenn back loves hitler yeah hitler said that but that's not who that's not what i was saying it had nothing to do with the conversation for the love of pete again if you had something against charlie kirk you wouldn't need to go to this stuff if if if if our opinion of kirk which was a guy who who worked hard to debate people who tried to practice politics and civic life the right way, who tried to be a shining light for his faith, which was vitally important to him and his family.

If that vision of Charlie Kirk was false, you wouldn't need to go to these things.

No.

You could come up with 50 different things he said that were really offensive.

Instead, what you come up with are lies, because that's what you're in the business of.

And there is a problem.

We now know,

and we'll have more on this later today on the Charlie Kirk show and then on tomorrow.

But we now know that the Chinese and Russia are involved with disinformation campaigns based on Charlie Kirk trying to get us to push us into civil war.

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Welcome to the Glen Beck program.

Pat Gray, thank you for being sitting there just in case something goes wrong in Dallas.

Thank you for being in our studios in Dallas.

And you're going to take the show over here for a few minutes

in just a minute because Stu and I have to take the long walk.

I'm a little nervous.

I haven't seen anybody yet, except for security from Turning Point.

I'm kind of isolated over here so far.

I don't know.

It's going to be really hard to be in that studio.

You do have to be able to do that.

Considering everything going on.

Somebody's going to be

a ball of tears in about half an hour, would be my guess.

So, yeah, take some tissue.

Take it through

a somewhat emotional commercial without breaking down.

I can't even imagine what this is going to be like.

It's going to be tough.

It's going to be tough for you, too.

It is going to be tough for me.

I think this has hit hit people in ways that they didn't really even expect.

That's

man, it's just so impossible.

And then you start thinking of everything that's going on outside, because we tend to process these things in our own experience, you know.

And then you start thinking about, you know, his family and everything they're going through.

It is

just going to be very difficult.

By the way, good time to bring up givesendgo.com slash 912 project.

These are funds going to the family.

If you want to help and just say thank you to Charlie for all the work and Erica for all the work that they've done,

you know, if you can help, it would be greatly appreciated.

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There's a couple of things that are going to be hard for me

today.

One is in this box.

I brought this box with me.

Yeah, what's in the box?

You'll find out in half an hour.

I only want to go through it once.

But

I brought something for the show today that I, I mean, I would tell a story that I've never told anybody before about Charlie.

And it just shows his grace and his, but I thought about it yesterday.

And

as I was thinking about that conversation, I went into the vaults and I pulled something out.

And

I spent all day yesterday thinking about what he told me.

And

so

I'm going to start there today.

And then also, my daughter and David Osmond were in the studio late last night

working all night on a tribute song that

David and Cheyenne, you know, Cheyenne really wanted to come to the funeral on Sunday, but she's like, I don't think I can handle it, Dad.

She was there.

She was what, 10 feet away.

And she said, I don't think I can handle it.

But she made a tribute song along with David Osmond, and I haven't even heard it yet.

So I'm going to play it for the first time me hearing it too.

Oh my God.

It's in the tarpaulin.

Forget the Kleenex.

I'm just kidding.

Wow.

This is going to be a disaster.

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So that's coming up.

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Glenn and Stu just

left the show because they're setting up to do Charlie's show over in the actual in Charlie's studio, which I guess they weren't in this morning.

So they're going over there to get it all ready and have it up by, what is it, noon Eastern time.

So, meanwhile,

we've been talking about some of the follow-up of the court appearance yesterday.

for the first time of Charlie Kirk's shooters.

And they're looking into other aspects and other people and other groups.

And was there anybody else involved?

Because it seems like a lot of people knew about it in advance.

And we're starting to hear some of that

information.

Is that people said things that might have been just coincidence, but

other things that probably weren't coincidence and maybe foreknowledge of this?

I don't know.

But one of the groups they're looking into is a trans group in Salt Lake City called Armed Queers SLC.

Now, I don't know if anybody else has noticed this.

I have lived in Utah on two separate occasions, six years at a time, and each of those broken up by going to other places.

Beautiful.

But I love Salt Lake.

I'll tell you, the changes that have occurred in Utah and Salt Lake City over the years have been somewhat surprising.

I moved to Utah the first time.

from Montana in the early 80s.

So

when I arrived there as a 20 or 21 year old kid,

I guarantee that had I sought out a local chapter of Armed Queers SLC,

I would have been greatly disappointed in my search at that time.

You don't think they existed?

I don't think they were around back then.

Maybe just like the starter group.

No, I don't even think the starter group was in place quite yet.

Okay.

Different place, different environment now.

It's amazing how much Salt Lake City, Utah has changed, but it has.

And now they've got groups like Armed Queers SLC, and they must be very proud of that.

We've seen their flyers.

We'll be proud.

We've seen their flyers.

We have, which comes with a trans person armed with an AK-47 or something.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Looks pretty militant.

Really militant.

Looks pretty frightening.

And meanwhile, everybody on the left is still trying to say this was done by someone on the right.

This is a conservative Republican who committed this killing of Charlie Kirk.

I know Glenn and Stew played this earlier, but I wanted to touch on it as well.

Jimmy Kimmel

talking about how desperate MAGA is to portray the killer as not one of them.

And this is where we continue to see the polls saying about the spin and the belief.

Because of this kind of stuff.

Yeah.

Here's what Kimmel had to say.

We had some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from him.

They are.

Yeah, they are.

They are.

They are.

They are doing everything.

I mean, the guy is one of theirs, and they're trying to blame us for it.

They're trying to.

That's how desperate they are.

Yeah.

I'd be surprised they don't have

the viewership for those late night shows.

Yeah, isn't it stunning?

Huh.

That's weird.

That is weird.

Why have audiences forsaken them?

Somebody will have to do a study

sometime.

That's what we need.

Because I'm sure it can't be just because they're babbling buffoons.

That can't be it, right?

No, that can't be it.

I think his deal actually goes for another three or four years.

I think he and

what's his face?

Jimmy Fallon are both kind of locked in for a while.

Fallon's not as bad as Colbert and Kimmel, but he's still occasionally agonizing.

Isn't him?

I don't remember now, but I think he's the one that they cut back to four nights a week.

Yes, I believe so.

Yeah.

And the other one, they took away the band.

Which has got to hurt.

You know, what are you going to do with that band?

What are you doing

without the band?

I don't know the answer to that.

I don't know how to do it.

Yeah, you can't have.

Without the 200 employee personnel.

Oh, right.

You got to have 200 to 250.

Clearly.

You know they all have.

To do an hour show.

I absolutely know they all have.

I mean, it's an hour show, four nights a week.

How do you do it with less than 200 people?

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

It's a mystery.

So you got to cut it back to four nights.

You know, you can't do all five.

That's ridiculous.

That would be silly.

Maybe they, you know,

it was between the writers of the band.

He was like, ooh,

band's got to go.

Yeah.

That could very well be.

Could very well be.

The lie is being perpetuated, though, on the left, that this was somebody on the right.

Heather Cox Richardson.

Ever heard of Heather?

Center-left historian, has the biggest following of any individual on Substack.

Okay.

And is spreading, I guess, Richardson has 2.6 million subscribers.

Oh, wow.

So that's pretty simple.

That's awesome.

Yeah.

Has a newsletter.

She is a history professor at Boston College, has interviewed Biden.

Planning to interview the bulwark.

By no means is she a fringe figure,

nor,

at least on the surface, radical, according to this article.

I don't know who she is, so maybe she is radical.

Yeah.

But on Sunday, Richardson spread the ridiculous lie that Charlie Kirk's suspected assassin is somehow conservative, and he disliked Kirk because he was not right-wing enough.

Right.

That's where that comes from.

We keep hearing this.

Yes.

And maybe, because we tested this out on

my show the other day with Grok Grok 4.

It was worded in Grok 4 or some of that.

And Grok 4 claimed that this shooter was angry with Kirk because he wasn't

conservative enough.

I mean, that's outrageous.

And obviously, he's not.

He's completely extreme left.

But...

She wrote, in fact, the alleged shooter was not someone on the left.

The alleged killer is a young white man from a Republican gun enthusiast family

who appears to have embraced the far right, disliking Kirk for being insufficiently radical.

So untrue.

Oh, come on.

And how do you stick to that when, you know, the court hearing yesterday produced the text exchange between the killer and his roommate?

I mean, you can't even possibly make the case.

You could make the case like ABC did, though, of how loving it was.

The authority between the two.

You could make that case.

Well, he was surprised how loving it was.

And I think he himself fell in love

after discovering

how sweet and tender it was.

We should

discover that.

Here's what the ABC reporter had to say about the exchange.

We have seen an alleged murder with such specific text messages about the alleged murder weapon, where it was hidden, how it was placed, what was on it, but also it was very touching in a way that I think many of us didn't expect.

A very intimate portrait into this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the suspect himself, with him repeatedly calling his roommate who was transitioning,

calling him my love and I want to protect you, my love.

So it was this duality of someone who the attorney said not only jeopardized the life of Charlie Kirk and the crowd, but was doing it in front of children, which is one of the aggravating circumstances of this case.

And on the other hand,

you know, speaking so lovingly about his family.

Yeah, he's lovingly speaking about his partner that he loved.

It's beautiful, really.

On the other hand, it's beautiful.

I mean,

that's incredible.

It is.

It absolutely is.

It's mind-boggling.

You just can't.

You know, as we talked about on my show this morning, that five years ago, you couldn't have predicted that we would be in the place where we are right now, where you've got an ABC News reporter, a network ABC reporter saying things like this, trying to reposition this killer as somebody who's loving.

Right.

Right.

Wow.

When we already had all the news about what he was, which he also mentioned in the text between he and his roommate, all of the engravings that he put on

the bullets.

Yeah.

Hey, fascist, catch,

bella chow, bellachow, bella chow, which songs, which they're lyrics from an Italian song, used as a rally cry for anti-fascist resistance fighters during World War II.

Then he also read, wrote on these bullets, if you read this, you are gay, L-M-A-O.

Wow.

I mean,

despicable.

Yeah, just silly stupid stuff.

Don't even look at it, really.

Silly, stupid stuff.

Yeah.

And horrific and, of course, evil.

Let's not forget, just plain, flat-out evil.

Yeah.

And what was the report

on his

girlfriend?

His male girlfriend?

Yes.

Okay.

It was the report.

Someone was talking about how evil she was.

Right.

Right.

It was the family member of hers.

His.

They, them, sure.

Zhi, Jim.

That that she was so evil.

So she really

she really has played a big role in his

in his transition into becoming

this evil person.

Although

I, you know, when you read the text between them, he was confused about, wait, you didn't do this, right?

Tell me you didn't do this.

He seemed to be upset that he might have been the killer.

So I don't know.

And Governor Cox in Utah presented him as if he'd been helpful.

You know, the roommate has been helpful the whole time

cooperating with the authorities.

So

but yeah, we're still we're still in this place where it just

feels like a

week full of mourning.

Well, it definitely has been.

Wake up with that pit in my stomach every morning.

And again, I didn't know Charlie.

Glenn knows him very well.

They were good friends.

But for some reason, we never got to meet him.

I know.

We were talking about this the other day.

I'm just amazed.

I never did have a chance to meet him.

And it was, you know, wasn't by on purpose.

Glenn says

the compound, the campus there of Turning Point USA is pretty darn impressive.

I bet.

I bet it's beautiful.

So he's created something really incredible in such a short period of time.

Right.

And it's going to be.

appearing to be stronger than ever,

which is great.

Even with

such tragic loss,

it's going to grow the mission.

Did you know, we talked about this a little bit the other day, but I think the number was like 18,000 or 32,000.

There have now been 56,000 inquiries into starting a Turning Point USA chapter.

Wow.

A chapter, not just, hey, I want to be a member.

56,000 new chapters could.

Potentially, probably not all of them will pan out, but that's, it's pretty amazing.

Pretty amazing.

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Glenn Beck.

It's Pat and Jeffy finishing off the Glenn Beck program for Glenn and Stu, who are on their way right now to

getting Charlie Kirk's studio up and operational and doing the show from there.

His wife said that it was going to continue on.

Yeah.

And Bay Bigger Than Ever

is what she's pretty much about.

So good.

On a different subject entirely, did you happen to see that the Publishers Clearing House,

the big sweepstakes people,

really the original ones, the ones I know of originally.

The Prize Patrol.

Yeah, right.

That's what we know them from as the Publishers Clearinghouse Prize Patrol.

That was long before the lottery.

Oh, wait, yeah.

I mean, people, that was your chance to get rich.

You wanted them showing up at your house with the giant check and the cameras and the balloons.

It's been going on for almost 60 years.

So it's been pretty big.

And, you know, a part of Americana, it's bankrupt now.

Bankrupt.

But they put all the money that people won, you know, these big prize winners that the Prize Patrol gave out.

Right.

They put all that money.

That's in a separate pile for them, right?

They continue to get their money.

No, not right.

No.

No.

That money's gone.

That's such.

That is such a good thing.

I guess it's a pay-as-you-go thing, which is.

Isn't that a Ponzi scheme?

Yeah.

I just think it's all loud.

I don't know.

It just feels like it.

It does feel like this is a crime because

they supposedly gave away this money, which you can't, it's not like the lottery where you can take the upfront payment and then be done with them.

I will say that's why you take the cash payout.

Exactly why.

Because they keep saying, well, 30 years,

the money

keeps growing, and that's what you want to do.

Yeah, and 15 years down the road, the lottery says, we're broke.

Sorry.

We're broke.

Sorry.

Sorry.

Anybody, and the new company who purchased Publishers Clearinghouse just said any winner prior to July 15th of this year.

Sorry, just no more money.

Yeah, we're not taking care of you.

Yeah, there's no more money.

This new gaming company.

How is it possible

they didn't put that money aside into an account that would accrue interest?

And I don't know how it judge it.

They can pay it out.

I don't know how the bankruptcy judge allows them to take it over without covering this as part of the deal.

Yeah.

Because what was left,

I think I read

they had

at least 26 million left to pay out for whatever, how many of her people they had had won prizes.

Yeah.

And they only, it was only, ended up being like a million a year or whatever for the next, well, a lifetime.

And they were guessing that most of it would be like 26 years

down the road.

Okay, so it'd be 26 million.

Okay, so put that in

a pile.

And that's what you get.

Yes.

Instead of

nope, you're not getting a check.

Good luck, God bless.

Yeah, I know that you were getting 5,000 a week for the last 20 20 years, but you counted on that, but you might as well buy it.

And I get that.

I get the whole thing.

Well, they should have saved it.

It wasn't real money anyway.

What are they doing?

Well, but if you get that money every week, or you're counting a check once a year,

yeah, you're definitely counting on it.

Listen to how quickly this went south.

In 2017, they had 854 million.

In 2023, 182 million.

This year, 1 to 10 million.

Oof.

Oof.

That's not good.

Nobody's buying back.

Not good.

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