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Stu and I arrived at Turning Point USA this morning around 4.30 to be ready to do this podcast for you live on national radio.

And then we

finished that.

There's some really good stuff on today's podcast

talking about the turning point, where we are,

what it's like here, and also some of the news that is happening, including what Pam Bondi and Donald Trump are talking about now on hate speech, something Charlie was dead set against.

And we're going to be filling in for him.

I recommend to you search out that podcast and listen to that.

And a lot of people have asked to how they can help.

I don't know what the right answer to this is, but

as maybe a placeholder for this is helping the family to start and

TPUSA.

We do have a fundraiser givesendgo.com/slash 912 project to help the family.

But TPUSA, we see now over 50,000 requests for new chapters.

50,000.

60,000.

It's not like, oh, 50,000 people want to join.

50,000 chapters we're talking about.

The impact of this is going to echo for a very long time.

Yeah, and we'll give you all of the coverage on it this week as we're here this week and be attending the funeral on

Sunday.

So we'll give you all of that from

Phoenix, Arizona this week.

And don't forget, tonight on the television show, we'll be covering the Charlie Kirk TPUSA broadcast as well.

We have some breaking news.

You'll see that on my Wednesday night special as well.

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We have Chip Roy on with us.

Chip is the Republican congressman from Texas, also candidate for Texas Attorney General, and we couldn't get a better Attorney General than Chip Roy.

Chip, I want to talk to you a little bit about

what the New York Times is saying, a gross overreach, that we are now targeting the Democrats, and we're using Charlie Kirk's death as a political tool.

by going after some of these NGOs and looking into who might be funding different things.

Can you respond to that?

Well, I think they're afraid.

That's the truth, Glenn.

They don't want us to pursue the truth.

They don't want us to expose to the American people the broad, extensive, coordinated network of radical leftists, Marxists, that are funding all of this.

Now, they think we're trying to say, oh, you know, you're saying they funded the shooting of Charlie Kirk.

Well, we'll let the authorities go investigate this and follow the law wherever it may lead.

But what I am saying is that that radical, organized, coordinated group are purposely undermining our values and our way of life, whether it's the border and all of the funding of the NGOs and all of the organizations, including, by the way, a lot of charities masquerading as faith organizations that were dumping people into our country.

harming our citizens.

American citizens died.

Fentanyl poured into our streets.

The organized funding, like the Wren Collective that is tied to these radical DAs and Soros-funded prosecutors, judges that are letting criminals out on the street, then endanger us, that resulted directly in the death of the Ukrainian refugee that we all saw in that horrific video, leading up to, obviously, the loss of Charlie.

But the radicalization of our schools, the radicalization of all of this stuff with the transgender efforts, all of that is not just some fanciful, like weird unicorn hippie crap.

It's actually a coordinated effort to target Western civilization and our belief system.

And they don't want us to pursue it.

We must pursue it.

And that's why I put forward a letter calling on the formation of a select committee designed to focus on it.

Now, look, if you want to run that all under judiciary or oversight, fine.

I mean, Speaker Johnson and Jim Jordan and Jamie Comer, they're all great friends.

However, we want to do it.

The purpose of the letter is to say we must do it.

It can't just be left to cash and the FBI and to Pam Bondi and to the administration.

Congress has to do our job to expose to the American people this broad network that is radicalized against our way of life.

Just to go through some of them.

2012 terrorist attack against a conservative Christian think tank, the Family Research Council.

We know somebody went in there and just shot everybody up.

Steve Scalise shot at the Republican practice for the congressional baseball game.

The guy wanted to, he's a Bernie Sanders fan, wanted to kill everybody on the diamond, all of the Republicans.

Rand Paul, attacked by a crazy lefty on his own lawn.

Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh almost assassinated.

President Trump nearly assassinated, not once, but twice, both lefties.

And now Charlie Kirk was assassinated.

And

I think a lot of this...

Go ahead.

No, go ahead.

No, I want to point out one thing there.

Take an organization like the Southern Poverty Law Center.

They have their heat map, right, that is directed to saying that we've got our folks who are hate organizations or, you know, somehow a threat.

And they put all that out there trying to radicalize their people.

Guess who is on that list?

The Family Research Council, which you just pointed out, was shot up by a radicalized individual right here in Washington, D.C., where a security guard got shot.

Charlie Kirk was on the Southern Poverty

Law Center's targeted heat map and basically putting a target on Charlie Kirk.

So all of these things are coordinated and I didn't mean to interrupt you, but I just wanted people to understand each one of these things are connected.

You have a lot of it also that is connected directly to schools.

I mean, Arabella Advisors,

you know, you look at what these guys are doing in conjunction, just raising money and dumping it into these far-left wings.

I mean,

Chip, I've been on this since Tides Foundation was, you know, something new and breaking news.

This is a long-running practice of the left.

And

it has to stop.

It has to stop because they're not only taking the money that they're raising and fomenting revolution, color revolution in our own country, but they also have found a way to our tax dollars.

And so these same organizations are getting our tax dollars to do the same.

Glenn, you know, when I've, I've followed you for a long time, and, you know, you and I have now known each other for a long time.

And

the thing that I've always admired about what you've done is try to explain to the American people, even dating back to some of your TV days, where you go out there and you have the big whiteboards, right, connecting the dots.

And this is where I think Congress has been missing it.

And Republican Congress.

And we do a lot of good stuff.

Okay.

I mean, look, we've been working hard in the big beautiful bill and all the stuff you know I've been talking about, good and bad.

There's some good, some bad.

You got to herd cats.

I get it.

But we have not done a sufficient job, in my opinion, of exposing this organized, coordinated effort.

And by the way,

That is directly tied to what we were articulating a couple of years ago when we went through the speaker's fight and we were demanding that we create a sort of weaponization select committee.

We ended up sticking it under the Judiciary Committee and we did some things, but the purpose there to me is much bigger and bolder than we've ever done.

I believe we need to step on the gas.

I believe that we need to expose that coordinated network and the weaponization of government that is tied to it.

That's the key element here, right?

All of those groups fomenting hate and targeting our people.

And I don't mean fomenting hate like hate speech.

That's a garbage principle, by the way.

And I hope the Attorney General is backing away from talking about, quote, hate speech.

That's a leftist, tyrannical terminology.

We don't police thoughts.

But

the focus, when you've got a hate map, that's a political tool of the left to say that, yeah, Charlie Kirk,

he's a hater.

And the Family Research Council is a hater.

Why?

Because we believe in Jesus and we believe in Western civilization.

We believe in marriage.

We believe in families.

We believe in responsibility and work ethic and Western civilization.

They want to target it and go after it.

And they use government to attack us for it.

They use government to undermine the Trump administration.

They use government to target law-abiding citizens.

And things like the FACE Act, if you dared pray at an abortion clinic.

And I could go on and on.

That's the coordinated effort we need to do a better job of exposing.

That's what my letter was all about.

I was on a conference call yesterday with a bunch of leaders on the right, and we were discussing things that need to happen, and I brought up some things that can't happen.

I said, you know, I hope that we are all watchdogs here, that we don't go too far, that we don't have a Patriot Act, because right now the passions are running very, very high, and we don't want another Patriot Act.

We cannot afford another Patriot Act.

I want to make sure that we're doing everything constitutionally correct, not

getting into some sort of thing that we're all going to regret down the road.

Is this all constitutional?

Is this all right in line with are you opening up a can of worms that when the other side gets a hold of this, we're going to pay for it?

Well, so I couldn't agree more, actually.

And keep in mind, what we're talking about is what I'm talking about.

Not a law, not a additional crime, not a

statute that's going to be enforced against people.

It's about saying we need to put together hearings with subpoenas and call people forward and paint a picture for the American people.

Look, we do that anyway.

All this,

that's oversight.

That's our job in Congress.

But we just need to do it with focus.

My point is, and I think you agree, we just need to do it better.

And we just need to expose this radical, radicalized network that's against our way of life.

People are going to say, oh, chip, that's McCarthyism.

No, I want to seek truth wherever it may lead.

I believe and I've seen significant evidence of these coordinated activities.

Let's go see it.

If George Soros is just sitting on an island throwing money into the wind to get people elected, he is within his rights to do so.

If some organization wants to speak out and say they don't like our country or they don't believe in Jesus, they are free to do so.

But when you are coordinating all of that, and these organizations are masquerading as things they are not, and when they are then using that to foment the kind of violence and things that are directed at our way of life, or putting criminals on the streets, or putting gang members in our neighborhoods, or funneling fentanyl into our communities because it's a

political operation because they want more voters.

Well, that's a real problem and that's undermining our security and it needs to be exposed, must be exposed, and then we can go deal with it.

But I couldn't agree more.

We should not react.

Like, I'll give you an example.

We were debating yesterday in the rules committee.

a small provision that was added to the continuing resolution to add additional security for executive branch, judiciary, and then, yes, legislative branch officials.

It was about $88 million of funding.

Now that's not huge in our budgetary scheme, sadly, but I raised the question, guys, how are we paying for this?

How is this going to work?

Like, sure, security, but we shouldn't react and throw everything out because we're just, oh my God, we're in a panic.

This happened.

This is terrible.

We should follow our normal procedures, make reasoned, collective judgments about what is good for the country.

And I believe the country deserves to know the truth about organizations they think are innocent that are out there fomenting a lot of the things that are undermining their liberty, their security, their way of life.

Talking to Chip Roy, who's running for Texas Attorney General, he is currently a congressman, one of the best congressmen in Washington.

Let me switch gears.

How long do you think this is going to last?

This

at least attempt at unity,

especially after what you saw happen with Luigi Mangion

in court yesterday, people in the courtroom cheered when they said

they had to throw out the murder in the first degree charge.

They cheered.

Well, I don't really put much stock in whatever people are saying about, quote, unity at the moment, whether that's unity that people are saying we need to unite across our ideologies or even within, frankly, the Republican Party per se.

Unity without purpose that are binding us together under a shared set of values is not unity.

Like, what are we united to do and accomplish?

I said this in so much in the letter: that we're not, we can't force being bound together.

You are bound together based on your commitment to a shared belief system.

And you either believe in Western civilization, believe in God, believe that our Western civilization is built on those principles, or you don't

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Ryan, welcome to the program.

We're glad you're here.

Thanks for having me.

So, Ryan, first of all, I know how you felt about Charlie Kirk and condolences on that.

And thank you for everything you're doing right now.

I think this is so important, especially in the wake of his uh martyrdom

yeah thank you and it's an honor really to be part of um you know your friend and to be part of part of your team and trying to make a difference so that this doesn't go unanswered and so that hopefully some greater good comes about as a result of this

so i remember you and i met oh

how many years ago and we we sat together and we talked about taking on George Soros and how important.

Do you remember that conversation?

I do.

It was, we were discussing our mutual friend, Phil Haney, who had passed

and the way forward.

And so you have been doing research,

and you are a great researcher, and you've been doing research.

And what can you share now?

I know you want to make a big announcement when we're together again with the Charlie Kirk show,

but what can you give us as a preview?

Well, what I can say is, is that I believe that myself and my colleagues at Capital Research Center have done the most extensive investigation into the Soros Network's funding of extremists that I think was ever conducted.

And the results are shocking.

And it should change the game.

It should equip the Trump administration with what they need in order to take action.

We don't have to have a debate about free speech versus hate speech.

If you look at the IRS code, nonprofits are not allowed to be engaging in criminal activity.

They're not allowed possibly to even be encouraging it if you look at the language.

And what we have found is many millions of dollars going to things like that.

And right now I'm holding in my hand about 100 pages of evidence that we're about to drop.

with you.

And so I think it's safe to say that today the counteroffensive begins.

Yeah, we are going through the hundred pages ourselves right now.

We got it from you last night and we're furiously going through all of the pages.

It's pretty

pretty remarkable

what you have found.

What's your level of comfort on saying 100% correct?

They almost never say this, but it's 100% correct.

And to give you an idea of why I'm so confident, there's a related report that I did for Cavalier Shrimp Center called Marching Towards Violence, where we mapped out all the groups that were organizing the anti-Semitic, anti-American protests after the October 7th attacks.

And we identified over 150 pro-terrorism groups that basically manufactured all of that.

And this is very similar.

There's some overlap.

And here is what one of the media outlets connected to that seditionist movement, Truth Out, actually said.

They said that our report is a, quote, existential threat that could easily mean a quick death for most of the groups, especially the nonprofits, by getting their tax exempt statuses revoked.

And those that survive, this group said, would suffer what they called mass chaos.

So the extremists have told us that we've discovered how to defeat them.

You know, it's amazing to me that these guys have gotten away with it for so long.

I mean, when I started, you know, going after the Tides Tides Foundation and

showed America how the shell game was working, they've only gotten more bold and much, much more dangerous, all the way into using our tax dollars to funnel money into overthrowing us.

Why haven't we gotten serious about this until now?

I think it's so brazen that...

It's hard for people to believe that there's actually something bad going on.

I mean, there's a few things going on, which is where it's so in your face that people say, well, well, I mean, if it was really that bad, then someone would have done something about it.

And then they look elsewhere.

There have been exposés done about grants going from some of these big billionaire-funded organizations, going to these extremes groups, but it comes in drips and drabs.

So what we've done is we brought it, in the case of Soros, brought it all together into one spot, found many, many, many more financial transactions using their own records.

in order to illustrate for the first time, I think, so people understand that this is an infrastructure.

This is a movement.

And as scary as that is, it also means it can be taken down.

We can confront them.

And this is something that we can win.

You know, it's amazing to me.

I think there's three countries.

I know it's Hungary.

I think it's Singapore.

And I think there's another one that have banned George Soros and his allies.

You can't operate in those countries because they know the damage that he does and they know and

they've just said it out loud.

Do you think we're going to get to a place to where we can start doing things like that?

Well, I think we're at that point.

I think when this comes out and people realize what the IRS code says a tax-exempt organization can do and cannot do and how blatantly it's being crossed, that this is no longer a heavy list.

It's just a matter of willpower and coordination, making sure everybody that can make something happen actually does it and is all operating.

They're all on the same page.

And as bad as the threat is, and as quickly as it's escalating, I think we can rapidly push it back.

And when people see that, like Soros is funding so many groups that endorse the October 7th attacks, I think you'll even see Democratic voting and left-wing supporting groups back away and say, you know what, I don't want to touch this.

We are,

like I said, we're going over the research ourselves, and we'll probably end up doing a giant chalkboard on it once we get through it.

But I want you to know, I'll personally give it to the president

myself to make sure that he sees it because

you've done yeoman's work here

and done a lot of the work for the FBI and everybody else.

I mean, it's...

It's not hard to see where it is.

It is hard to prove it and to track it down and make sure that everything is buttoned up.

And you've done a lot of that work already.

So thank you for that.

Thank you so much, Ben.

It's great to know that finally action will be taken with your help and that just for everyone listening out there, like civilians can make a difference.

You know, it's a you don't have to outsource your civic responsibility to the government and assume that they know everything and all the power is in their hands.

This is this is the power of patriotic nonprofit organizations like the one I work for, what independent civilians can do.

You can really make a difference if you want to.

Can you talk about Occupied Turtle Island?

I know we've talked about this before, but I'd like you to go into that again because it kind of goes into

what you're going to talk about here coming up in a couple of hours.

Sure.

So this is a term that...

Everyone needs to familiarize themselves with because this is how you know when a group is radical, very often our times are hiding it.

They will refer to the United States as either the so-called United States or Occupied Turtle Island.

And it comes to this myth that the Native Americans, before the evil white settlers showed up, referred to the entire continent as Turtle Island.

And what they do is by referring to the U.S.

as Turtle Island, they're saying, we do not recognize the right of the United States to exist.

And if you do not have a right to exist, then you should be destroyed.

And it's the same template.

that they use against Israel when they refer to it as occupied Palestine.

So these groups that are supposedly just anti-Israel, but then refer to the U.S.

as occupied Turle Island, they have the same exact agenda for both of us.

And if you look at the foreign governments that support them, if you look at what the words of the extremists of all kinds say that are part of this movement, their big gamble is that Americans can be triggered, provoked, to rip America apart along racial lines, along political lines, and that our civil discourse, our civil society will be so poisoned that it'll cease to function and that people will become more like Tyler Robinson supporters and their rhetoric will be more like that and less like the love you would see from Charlie Kirk I mean I mean you look at some of the longer events the longer videos of Charlie Cook that sometimes didn't always go viral and you can see the love he had for the people he was defending at times and that for me I know made me a better person that impacted me more than any opinion opinion he expressed or argued for.

I think that's why he affected so many people.

He really did love the people he was debating.

He really didn't have hatred in his heart for any of them.

I mean, you know, he became a Christian.

He was baptized in 2018, I think.

And he lived his faith.

He lived his faith and was really trying to live a life very much like Christ.

And, you know, not a perfect guy by any stretch of the imagination, but man, better than I am, better than I probably have ever been,

you know, living his life.

Let me ask you about one other thing.

Let me put a full screen up.

This is Kristen Hawkins, president of Students for Life.

A side-by-side picture of a Charlie Kirk memorial at UNC Wilmington.

One before it was vandalized, and one picture now spray-painted with trans pride colors.

So vandalize after.

Have you heard of trans

Trantifa?

Have you heard that term?

I have.

Oh, yeah.

It's like a militia-type movement.

And they've used that term to describe themselves, by the way.

So it's not really offensive.

How real is Trantifa?

How extensive is that?

And have you seen any funding going toward groups that would call themselves Trantifa?

I've seen funding, including from Soros's network, going towards groups that ally themselves with Antifa terrorists, for sure.

We're going to show that.

Trantifa would be a subset of that.

So you can make the back connection exists.

But more broadly, I mean, I've been studying and monitoring extremists and getting to law enforcement intelligence about these types of people for many years, reporting thousands of them.

And so I saw this militia-type Transifa movement really growing.

And it's real.

Like, I've seen them own MMA gyms.

I've seen them doing, they're very pro-gun actually,

because you have to have a militia.

And

I've seen them actually radicalize what you would consider to be almost like right-wingers with this anarchist rhetoric about minimal government or no government and gun rights.

And that's why it's the more I monitor this, the more I feel like the framing of some of this needs adjustment because all of these diverse extremists kind of go into one

global seditionist movement is what I call it.

All of us, as much as we disagree, have so much more in common with each other than all of these extremists that want to burn everything to the ground.

I know.

I know.

I know.

And yet they'll stand together

and plan on killing each other after

they win against us.

And for some reason, we just can't stand together.

Thank you so much, Ryan.

We'll talk to you in a couple of hours.

Appreciate it.

Okay, thanks, Clinton.

Thank you.

You bet.

Ryan is going to be joining me me on the Charlie Kirk show because of his relationship with Charlie Kirk.

He really wanted to announce it on Charlie's show, and I think it's absolutely appropriate.

But it's big breaking news, and it is the key that the president will need to begin to take down George Soros and a lot of his NGOs.

Ryan seems to have the goods,

and we'll bring that to you in a couple of hours.

You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

So we arrived about 4-430 this morning at Turning Point USA and it is an odd place to be right now.

The workers hadn't come in.

It was very quiet, very dark.

Police still had the streets blocked off.

You had to go through security to get here, lots of security to get here.

But it's about this time that people start to funnel in and then start to go and leave things out in the street in front.

And it's a large city block, long,

large city block.

And

there are the

sidewalks are probably, what, eight, ten feet deep, easy, ten feet?

It's incredible.

And it's just covered with notes and packages

and flowers and balloons and teddy bears.

And I mean, it's really incredible what's happening, the outpouring.

Absolute outpouring.

And you're not just seeing it here.

you're seeing it all over the country and as you mentioned earlier the world really yeah

really quite remarkable pat is uh here um he's in our dallas studios and stu and i are out in uh phoenix um we were just talking about the five lies that are going around about charlie kirk and it is it's it's reprehensible on what is going on because the people who are saying these things who are starting these things They really need that.

I mean, they know.

They know.

Like Stephen King, really.

You really think that Stephen King, you really think that Charlie Kirk is for the stoning of gay people?

I do think, though, a lot of these people

have

an image of everyone on the right.

That shows how unbelievably isolated you are.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Now, King, you know, in particular, I think, like, I don't think Stephen King was lying on that.

I think he's, you know, I don't think he's the the sharpest knife in the drawer.

He's got to be.

You can't write like he does.

He's not an idiot, right?

He's not like he can form thoughts.

But I think he is so completely isolated in his bubble that, you know, like, you know, if someone says something terrible about a person like Charlie Kirk and your image of him is he's basically Hitler.

Well,

you don't spend time fact-checking it.

You're like, oh, of course, that guy's that.

He's that terrible human being.

Of course he said something like that.

You don't even bother to check it you know i mean and i you know it's like

you know if you if you ran into a quote from hitler you had never seen that was negative on jews you you know you as a journalist you should probably check it but like you might think oh yeah that was probably true he said a lot of things like that that's how they think about people who are like normal conservatives who want lower taxes and less regulation and that is really really disturbing So these lies are really prominent.

People really believe these things.

So there's a couple of them.

Here are the five.

The first one is Charlie Kirk said black people were better off in slavery.

How big of an idiot do you think you have to be to believe that?

Okay.

I mean, unless you're Crockett, unless your last name is Crockett and I don't mean Davey.

Black Americans were better off than slavery.

No, that's absolutely

not true.

He never said anything like that.

Now,

what you're probably getting this from, and I'm going searching, I mean, I am on a metal, I'm with a metal detector on the beach with, you know, board shorts and sandals and socks looking for anything that kind of even sounds like that.

But Charlie Kirk did say that, you know, they were talking about Jim Crow and how evil Jim Crow was.

But he said, but if you look at the family, the black family before the passage of the Civil Rights Act, which ended the Jim Crow laws, he said the family was thriving.

And it was.

It was.

Blacks had a lower divorce rate than whites did in, I think, 1961.

Their families were stronger.

Dads were in the homes.

They had lower crime rates.

I mean,

something happened.

Around the time of the Civil Rights Act.

Now, my theory is the Civil Rights Act

was done by progressives.

I mean, these are the guys who said no to the Civil Rights Act just four years before

and worked hard to stop the Civil Rights Act.

So what changed in those four years?

The assassination of President Kennedy, that changed your mind?

Not even.

Not even.

I mean, Johnson was the biggest racist

up until he died.

Why would he create the great society?

My theory, this is just a theory, but my theory is, is because finally the progressives had a way to

keep blacks under their thumb and destroy the family and destroy them as people.

I mean, the Civil Rights Act and more of the great society, the great society did more damage to the black family than

anybody could have done outside of Margaret Sanger.

I think that's what he meant by that.

It was evil,

you know, Jim Crow, et cetera, et cetera.

But if you look at the numbers on specifics, family, et cetera, et cetera, blacks were doing better as families before the Great Society.

And I think that undoing is absolutely,

is absolutely tied to it.

And it was intentional myself.

I believe that.

Also, the next claim is that Charlie Kirk said black women have inferior intelligence.

No, that's not what he said.

No, they're quoting him saying that black women don't have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously.

How bad does your image have to be of people on the other side to believe that they could say that?

That Charlie Kirk could say that.

I mean, just like if you were to,

you know, I think about this a lot of times when I think about how we react to crazy statements on the left.

Like my reaction a lot of times when I hear someone saying that is, wait a minute.

Yes.

Even if they believe that, they wouldn't just blurt it out.

What is the context of this?

I want to know.

I want to understand.

That should be your first question when you want to do a quote like that.

Go to Snopes.

They rate this one true.

This is true.

They rate it absolutely true.

Until you get to the last paragraph when they say, well, no,

we should point out, he wasn't talking about all black women.

Okay.

He was talking about four specific black women.

Oh.

Okay.

Oh.

So talking about Joy Reed, absolutely true.

Sheila Jackson Lee, absolutely true.

Katanji Brown Jackson, Jackson Brown, absolutely true.

Well, she's not a biologist, Glenn.

No, she's not.

She doesn't know

what a woman is.

I'm not a biologist.

I'm not a biologist.

I don't know.

She's going to do that.

And Michelle Obama, which I don't think is true.

I think Michelle Obama is actually rather smart and conniving and just flat-out flat-out evil.

Yeah, there's a mix there.

I mean, Katanji Brown Jackson, you know, for all of the flaws I would have with her as a Supreme Court justice, obviously isn't a moron, but she is, I mean, well, I would say so to my or

I would be more confident in saying she's a moron.

Though I am,

for the job that she has, Katanji Brown Jackson is a moron.

You know, Joy Reed is a complete idiot.

Was it Sheila Jackson Lee?

Yeah.

Again, those two I think would fall into the same category.

And you're right, Michelle Obama I would not call an idiot.

But, you know, again, criticizing four members of a group does not mean you're criticizing the group.

He was criticizing people he thought

were unqualified to make statements of any intelligence on whatever topic it was that he was talking about.

And what they did is they said, he thinks that all black women are just dumb.

I mean, that is so incredibly dishonest.

Charlie Kirk said that gun deaths, unfortunately, worth it to keep the Second Amendment.

This is one I've heard actually a lot.

This is one that a lot of people on the left are using as justification for their celebration.

He said, you know, well, you just got to deal with the deaths if you want to have a Second Amendment.

And, you know.

I don't know if you have the context there, but

I have his answer right here.

Ready?

You will never live in a society where you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death.

That's nonsense.

It's drivel.

But I am.

I think it's worth it.

I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year.

So you can have the Second Amendment right to protect your other God-given rights.

It's a prudent deal.

It is rational to think that way.

I mean, and every time, if you have a free society, you take risks with it.

There will always be people, horrible, horrible human beings that all seem to donate to Democrat causes that will do things

like we saw one week ago today.

And that is, you know,

again, he can't speak for Charlie Kirk.

He spoke for himself so eloquently.

But, you know,

even what occurred last week would not change his mind on that.

He even even, he would not say, well, we should, now that something terrible has happened to to me and my family We should overturn the Second Amendment and people shouldn't have a right to defend themselves You know that's how he would feel about it and he this is if anything pointing to his incredible consistency on the rights that we have in this country You know, it is a sad unfortunate sad unfortunate fact about so many things It's a sad unfortunate fact about automobile travel that you do have to deal with some automobile accidents when you have highways where you can drive 55, 65, 75 miles an hour.

It's unreasonable to think that you could live in a society with automobiles and not have some automobile accidents.

It is absolutely true.

That is exactly what he said about guns.

And frankly, the other thing that's important here to understand is if you did eliminate all guns, you would not eliminate all murders.

Well,

they did in England.

Oh, they did.

They're all set.

There's no murder there.

Wow, I didn't realize there was no.

There's no violent crimes there.

I keep reading about them.

Is that all false?

It's all false.

Yeah, that's Donald Trump.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Last one, Charlie used an Asian slur.

Now, I'm not going to use the slur, obviously.

I'm just going to say it's what happens sometimes with armor.

There's a very famous saying about armor

that has nothing to do with the Chinese or Asian at all.

But I'm not even going to put those together in this context now for you.

You'll have to figure that out.

But

the thing that's going around is he used that slur to yell at an Asian woman in the audience.

Now, again, what kind of monster...

You should know on its face that's false.

You shouldn't even have to look it up.

How that's false.

You mean, how stupid would Charlie Kirk have to be?

Okay.

So, you know,

there's nothing like that.

Well, I'm sorry.

He was screaming something at a woman

when they were talking about capitalism,

and he was yelling, sank.

Not the other word.

Okay.

Okay.

Sank.

And who is that?

From the young Turk.

The guy from Turkey's guys.

Right.

That's what he was saying.

That's what he was saying.

Oh, gosh.

I mean, that's just so bad.

You know, like the other one was the Stephen King situation where he quoted some horrible thing that Charlie Kirk said.

And again, he admitted eventually that it was false.

But

he was quoting someone else

in an incident and critiquing

that position,

which was a bad position, but he was bringing it up to quote it and critique it, which is a very standard thing that they've done on the left.

I mean, this is a standard tactic of Media Matters.

When you're quoting someone else or you're saying something,

they'll act as if you say it.

You repeat a lie often enough and the public will remember it.

Glenn Beck is quoting hitler glenn beck loves hitler yeah hitler said that but that's not who that's not what i was saying it had nothing to do with the conversation for the love of pete again if you had something against charlie kirk you wouldn't need to go to this stuff

if if if if our opinion of kirk which was a guy who who worked hard to debate people who tried to practice politics and civic life the right way, who tried to be a shining light for his faith, which was vitally important to him and his family.

If that vision of Charlie Kirk was false, you wouldn't need to go to these things.

No.

You could come up with 50 different things he said that were really offensive.

Instead, what you come up with are lies, because that's what you're in the business of.

And there is a problem.

We now know,

and we'll have more on this later today on the Charlie Kirk show and then on tomorrow.

But we now know that the Chinese and Russia are involved with disinformation campaigns based on Charlie Kirk trying to get us to push us into civil war.

And we know it for a fact now.

So just be very careful what you read online and don't necessarily repeat everything that you see.