How to Question What You Were Taught, Discover Your True Self & Embrace Your Power w/Sherri Shepherd

On today's episode, how to question everything you've been taught and become your true self with Emmy Award-winning comedian and talk show host, Sherry Shepard.

You've talked about crying for three years straight on the view.

How did you get to that point of saying, okay, I'm going to open my mouth and half people aren't going to like me?

I used to carry the weight of the world on me.

Oh, I can't let black people down.

I can't let black women down.

I can't let Christians down.

This is a big thing that I'm excited to talk to you about because so many women, but also people, let's just put out there, so many people, we have all this pressure now to post on social.

And then you do and you get attacked.

There's gonna be so many millions of people listening or watching this that are gonna have an aha moment right now, as Oprah would call it, where they're like, wait a minute, I have learned a lot.

How many elections have you voted in?

Because I know for a while you didn't vote, right?

Yeah, I was a Jehovah's Witness.

I didn't start voting until I got on the view.

I'm definitely about unifying.

I thought the country was

ready for a woman.

I really did.

And as a black woman, I thought the country was ready for a black woman.

And I have a son who's

19 and he's on the spectrum.

So many things are flying.

That stop and frisk may be implemented again.

Well, stop and frisk affects young brown and black boys.

So with stop and frisk,

as a mother, that's very terrifying to me.

The one thing that I know, I said to the audience, is that laughter unifies.

Do you feel like you're born funny?

Like it's just part of your anointing or part of your personality?

It definitely is.

That is a specific gift from God

that I have.

I just know that when I sit in that chair, it's a responsibility, especially now because people are in despair.

They're worried about their kids.

They're worried about, you know, am I going to have a job?

They're worried about

racial issues.

And they need an hour to just go, I don't want to think about that.

I just want to laugh.

That's what I'm here for.

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They say laughter is the best medicine and my incredible guest, Sherry Shepard, is medicine for millions of us daily on her hit television talk show, Sherry.

And let me just tell you from first-hand experience, it is funnier than ever.

Sherry is an Emmy award-winning, NAACP Image Award winning, Gracie award-winning, and that's just a few of them, host, actress, comedian, author, and mom, known for her impeccable timing and relatable humor.

From her main seat on The View for seven years to her wide range of acting, business, and hosting roles, she's truly the definition of a multi-talented superstar.

I fell in love with her when I got the gift of being a guest on her show this year.

And actually, funny story, my husband Paulo fell in love with her when he heard she appeared on an episode of WWE SmackDown as a guest manager to professional wrestler MVP.

Sherry has truly done it all, and yet her star is burning brighter than ever right now.

And speaking of stars, Sherry will be getting a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame this year.

So well deserved.

Sherry Shepard, welcome to the Jamie Curtin Lima Show.

Oh my goodness, Jamie.

Wow.

I was like, who is that girl?

You're like, is that me?

Oh, man.

That's you.

Wow.

That's you.

What an honor you're here.

Thank you for having me.

I'm so excited.

That's a lot of pressure.

I feel like I'm supposed to be, you know, after you read all of that, I'm supposed to be like really great.

I think you can't help but be really great.

And it was such a gift to be on your show recently.

And that's where I just got to see your beautiful soul and feel it.

I just want to kick it off with

this topic of being funny.

So like studies show, studies show laughter improves every part of our health, our mental health, our mood, our entire life.

And

you call yourself a good time, a good time.

And so many of us, we want to be more of a good time in our lives.

And, you know, I hear from a lot of women that are like, as an adult, I feel like I've lost touch with my sense of humor.

I feel like I don't even know if I'm funny anymore.

I don't know how to have fun.

So right off the top, Sherry Shepard,

how do we get in touch with our sense of humor?

And like, how can we be more fun and funny?

Do you feel like you're born funny?

Like it's just part of your anointing or part of your personality?

It definitely is.

That is a specific gift from God

that I have.

And it's not to say my funny is better than other people because I'm not the my whole family is funny.

I'm not the funniest person.

I'm probably the least funniest, but I do make money at being funny.

My family tells me all the time, that wasn't funny, what you said.

That one, and when we all get together, you would crack up at everybody in my family.

They're funny.

So I don't,

even with men, sometimes I'm, I'm, I'm very serious, you know, and they go, Where's the, where's that cherry?

Or people who work for me, Jamie, they, I will tell them, I'm the one that you see on the chair, I'm much more

scripted.

Like I work really hard to create that first 20 minutes that I sit on the chair.

It takes an hour for us to come up with 18 minutes of material or 14 minutes of material.

And I'm a perfectionist.

So I'm very serious about the business part.

I think some of my dates go, wow, you kind of serious.

Yeah.

Well, this is probably why you're able to make money being funny because you have both sides to you.

You can bring it when you need to, but then you are also, you probably have that other part of your brain where you're like, oh, this has got to be good.

Because most people I meet who are really successful, no matter if they're an artist or an entertainer or a business person, doesn't matter, they have that side of them.

They're very serious.

Yeah, I have that side of me.

I'm really about business.

I'm very serious.

Yeah.

About my, you know, my, if you ask my assistant, Edie, is Sherry funny?

She'd be like, no, if, if I mess up with Jeffrey, I don't want to see that side of Sherry.

Like,

and I know a lot of comics like that who are, you know, when they're in front of the camera, they are so funny.

But then when you see them off the camera, serious as a heart attack.

Yeah.

My, my co-host on my podcast, Kim Whitley, when we're together, she makes me laugh, but she's very serious.

Yeah.

I'm thinking of somebody, Niecy Nash, my other bestie, very serious when we're talking.

So, but when we have to go out,

we can pull up.

So, when you feel like saying something and you know it's funny, do you ever doubt it or do you just like let it come out?

I don't even think, oh, this is going to be funny.

I just say it.

You just say it.

I just, and it makes people laugh.

It's just the it now.

I do know it's the way I look at things.

Like, the way I look at things is

a typical person will see a circle.

I look at things through a square and I and try to fit that square into the circle, and it doesn't.

And that's my funny.

I don't don't think about it i just say it wow and it's so it's the lens at which i look at life so i don't look at it in a in a normal you know kind of way like i think um a rant that i did on my show was about going to the podiatrist and him cutting my corns and touching my feet.

And the way I looked at it was like, it was like a whole sexual experience.

And it was so amazing.

And the way he did it and how he said, you know, I need you to wear orthotics.

And I I was like, I do.

I do.

I will wear orthotics.

I don't think about, oh, this is going to be funny if I say it.

That was just the experience.

And I came in to my, the hot topics meeting and I said, I just had this experience with this podiatrist.

Let me tell you about it.

And once I saw they were on the floor, I go, well, we can use it.

So I don't, I guess that'll, it just comes out.

Wow.

And it's the way I look at life.

So we look at life a little bit different.

Don't look at it through the average type of lens.

See it, look at it a different way.

You know, like I just went to the podiatrist, and that was a sexual experience.

That was, yeah, and like, even now, even like with the election, without getting political, it's like, you know, it's, it's a different day.

Now we have to, we have to now fight for our rights.

We have to, in my immediate mindset, I was talking to a bunch of very accomplished women, and we were very concerned about how do we, how is this world going to be for our children?

And, you know, standing up for our rights and fighting.

And I go, well, what, okay, when you say fight, like, I have sciatica.

Like, what kind of fighting are we doing?

Are we talking about fighting, you know, intellectually?

Because I just stayed up till five in the morning watching the mayor of Kingstown.

So I'm a little tired.

Like, how much fighting can we do?

And marching is not for me because I have flat feet.

So do I have to wear my orthotics when I march?

Is it going to be a bathroom near when I march?

And, you know, I can't see.

So I don't even know if I'm my, my, my, eyesight, I need my reading glasses.

You know, am I going to be able to read the signs that we got to make?

And, you know, I I'd show up on time.

So all the young people, like marching is a young person's game.

And it was just, I just started going off on this whole rant about marching being for young people because they got the stamina, their feet aren't going to hurt.

They don't have to go to the bathroom.

When they start going, you know, they're coming, run.

Okay, I can't run.

I get, my knees are going to give out.

I don't drop it like it's hot.

And they were all laughing.

And I go, but seriously, this is what I'm thinking.

So.

During an election recap.

During an election recap.

So I can get on stage and talk about the election for 50 minutes and make it funny.

Yeah.

Because the way I look at it, you know, it's serious to me, but some of the way I look at it is just a little different.

Like you find the humor in it.

I find the humor in it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

How are you feeling about the election?

How am I feeling about the election?

I'm very disappointed because

I thought the country

was ready for a woman.

I really did.

And as a black woman, I thought the country was ready for a black woman.

And I thought this is, I was so excited about Kamala Harris because I felt Kamala Harris, she may not be a biological mother where children came from her womb, but she's a mother.

That's why she, you know, like she has her stepdaughter, her stepkids.

And I felt finally we're going to have a woman who has mothering instincts and nurturing instincts who can run the country.

If you, women, we've run so many things.

And there's a, you know, I'm definitely, we have things that men don't have.

Our femininity, our, our softness, our compassion, our empathy.

And I thought, this is what we need.

Somebody who's going to sit there and go, you, you, we're not doing this war thing.

We're not, uh-uh.

We're going to come to the table, we're going to sit down and we're going to talk until one of us is tired, but we're going to look for solutions rather than just clashing.

Somebody

who can empathize over here and over here, because that's what we do when we have to, you know, negotiate things.

And I thought, finally,

you're gonna see what a woman brings, the strength and the power of just being a woman.

Why people love being around us, why a mother can take you in her arms and say, it's gonna be all right.

I don't care what happens.

Anybody who goes to a courtroom, they could commit the worst of crimes, and their mama will be right there going, but that's my baby.

And I said, We're going to have someone leading a country like that who just has these qualities that have not been seen.

So, I, it for me, it was disappointing.

And I have a son who's

19 and he's on the spectrum.

Jeffrey.

Jeffrey.

And so

it wasn't so much worried about me.

It was how do I explain this to a boy whose brain processes differently?

He doesn't understand

Project 2025.

He doesn't understand.

So it's a lot of stress on me because I think that they said, you know, and I don't know if it's true or not.

So many things are flying that stop and frisk may be implemented again.

Well, stop and frisk affects young brown and black boys.

And my son is now trying to get his independence as a 19 year old.

So I allow him to get on the train and just go and get off.

He just hasn't let me know where he's at.

He took the train to Brooklyn to go to a Nets game, but he went three hours before the game started because he just wanted to walk around.

And he just wanders around and he, because he's got,

he'll say, mommy, I'm so excited, but you don't see it on his face.

And he'll say, I'm so excited.

And so if you just look at him, he just looks like a grown man who just is kind of blank, but he's taking in everything.

So I let him walk around Brooklyn for three hours.

He went, he said, mommy, I'm at getting an iced tea.

Mommy, I went to this Chipotle.

I'm sitting down eating.

Mommy, I'm at the Barclay Center.

So I'm going in the museum.

But it was very scary for me, but I said, he needs to get his independence.

He needs to feed.

He's 19-year-old things are happening in his body.

But his brain

doesn't process everything.

You know, so he doesn't, he has a hard time sensing energy so bad energy he doesn't sense he just walks around very free if you talk to him he'll give you a big smile you know he got a job working at the movie theater taking tickets and so he's very innocent so with stop and frisk uh as a mother that's very terrifying to me

because for somebody who's on the spectrum if there's a lot of people saying get down put your hands behind me that confuses him and he's going to be like, dude, I can't be.

He doesn't like to be touched.

So all of these things, as a mother with a child, an adult, but he's my baby of special needs.

This, this scares me because now I have to go home and explain to Jeffrey, I just can't let you go and

go to a restaurant by yourself.

And you want to walk around the block because he wants to be like the teenagers that he sees.

He points them out all the time, mommy, I want to be like them.

They're just walking around, just walking around.

You You know, Jeffrey forgets to bring his ID with him.

He, he's, you know, he's just not aware.

And if my son saw the windows broken out of our house with the door hanging wide open,

he wouldn't think, oh, somebody may have broken it.

I better call my mom.

He'd go, he'd go inside.

He could see five people sitting at the table who don't belong there.

And he'd go, what's up, bro?

And go up in his room.

So

now hearing that and going,

my son wants independence.

I want him to find independence.

I want him to be able to walk around New York City.

He can't,

how do I explain to him that I cannot allow you to do that?

And then I don't want to put fear on him, but I'm scared.

So, what I think about the election, it is concerning to me.

I did not vote for Donald Trump.

I voted for Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz because her message of moving the country forward and it being a new day and unifying.

I'm definitely about unifying.

I said that on my show.

We found out that Donald Trump had become president of the United States.

And I go, how do I go and make people laugh?

There will be a lot of people that are going to be happy and there are going to be a lot of people who are devastated.

There's a lot of rights that are going to be rolled back

with Project 2025, you know, education.

If you don't know your history, then how are you going to to know what your future is?

And

that was a heavy day for me.

But I said,

the one thing that I know, I said to the audience, is that laughter unifies.

And I could hear grumblings in the audience.

There were people who were very happy.

They clapped when I said there are some people that are going to be happy today and some people clapped.

And then I could hear grumbling in the audience of people who didn't, who had voted another way.

And I said, but if you would allow me to do what I do, make you laugh, because that's what I know how to do with my eyes closed.

Let me do the work for you.

And they clap.

And so the one thing I know is humor and laughter.

It's needed.

I have friends who think what I do is, you know, you talk show, you're great.

You're an entertainer.

You're an actor.

You're great.

But it's not moving the world.

It's not changing the world.

Don't tell me that.

It's needed more than ever.

And I feel it's like an assignment from God.

I'm thankful that he's using me because there's people who are funnier than me.

But I just know that when I sit in that chair, it's a responsibility, especially now because people are in despair.

They're worried about their kids.

They're worried about, you know, am I going to have a job?

They're worried about

racial issues.

And they need an hour to just go, I don't want to think about that.

I just want to laugh.

That's what I'm here for.

I'm not going to give you the news of the day and this breaking news and this political and this and

I'm disappointed.

I need to find a way to move on and I need to find a way to unify.

And I need, you know, and I want to love.

So, but there, but those are the issues that can, you know, as with this election, how does this affect my child who's on the spectrum, who just really isn't aware?

What are you going to do?

Like, because he's 19.

And

I'm struggling with that.

I'm really, really struggling with that because

I want him to grow up and not be fearful.

I want him to grow up with as much independence as he can have.

I want him to, you know, to be happy and be at a job that he loves.

And he loves people.

Like, you know, I'm scared for my son.

My son, you know, he came to me years ago and he's like, mommy, I like white girls.

I like him to have big butts like a Kardashian.

That's what he said to me.

And I said, well,

you know, mommy got a big button.

He's like, oh, well, that's gross.

But my son goes to

a special needs school.

So

really, everybody he's grown up with, the girls have been white.

That's all he knows.

And his cousins are black girls, are little black girls.

And his experience with them is they always call and go, auntie, Jeffrey won't do this.

Jeffrey won't do that.

So that he gets in trouble with the black girls he knows.

So he's never been around

a really,

maybe one black girl that he liked in his school.

And he was like, but she likes all of the white boys.

So when he came and he said that to me, I'm like, it's very funny.

So he went to a prom with a girl who was white.

There's this girl.

He told me not to talk about him too much, but it's like, so that concerns me because I'm like him walking down the street

with this,

all of this stuff going on.

If somebody confronts Jeffrey, he doesn't,

like all that doesn't bother him.

Even him, he rides a train now to school by himself.

And I go, does anybody say anything to you?

He goes, yeah, but I just ignore it.

He said, I sat next to a guy and he woke up and he's like, why are you sitting next to me?

And I go, what did you do?

And he goes, I just ignored it.

So what am I going to say, Jamie?

I don't know.

I'm praying all the time going, okay, we're here.

This is a new day.

And now I have to teach my son, Lord, how do I do that with the way, the challenges that he faces, the way he processes in his brain?

How do I do that?

I don't know.

It's the first time I've ever been a mother of a child that has special needs.

And it's, you know, who doesn't just get it.

With speaking of him dating, so with you dating, do you look for like, is there a type you have?

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So with you dating, do you look for like, is there a type you have?

They have to be funny.

Yeah.

And I have to,

humor gets me.

Yeah.

If you're funny, I like that because I think that can break a lot of, that can break a, you know, I love to do a good belly laugh.

Yeah.

And I have a good sense of humor too.

So if somebody does something and they make me laugh, like a big gut laugh, you got a real big shot with me.

I love,

but my husband was a comic, Jeffree's daddy.

He was a comic.

If I see you on stage and you can make me laugh, I'm like, oh, man.

So humor really

is a big one.

Do you feel like it's great because you can actually just like exhale and let them be funny?

Because you're often so funny.

Then you don't have to be all the time.

When I don't have to be all the time.

It's kind of like a meeting of the minds.

Cause if you're funny you you can get you know i know you have your serious spot now i can't have be with a man who's funny 24 7.

yeah that would that drives me up the wall yeah like

just be chill and and and and just let it flow people try to be funny all the time comics try to be funny around me all the time i can't i have to walk away yeah so if i if i go on on a date with you and 24 7 you're funny i'm just like oh this is awful do you have a physical type like you mentioned jeffrey likes the kardashians do you have like a physical type you go for or one that you will not go for i can go for all i don't like i'm real tall because my ex my my the last ex-husband was six five six that's too tall like even

it even in bed it is just it's all off like it's the it's too tall even when you take pictures you got to do the camera a different way he's cut off or it either looks like i'm the little girl holding his hand it's just off.

You know, I'm always looking up like this.

That one, like that, and I don't feel like you can protect me when you're that tall because all somebody's got to do is kick you in the knees and you're going down.

Like you're like a big giant that's going to go down.

So I like short guys.

I do.

I like short men who are compact, but they got the short man anger, which I like too, because they, you know, there's always something that's going to set them off because they're short.

And you like that.

I do.

I do.

So I like men that are probably, let me see, I'm 5'1.

Probably 5'7 and 8.

That's that's the cutoff right there.

You're making a whole lot of people's days right now.

That's like, I'm never, okay, okay.

Okay.

Yeah, give me a short, but I, but I like a man who's healthy, who takes care of himself.

So if you're like a couch potato and you want to sit around in your underwear and freaking drink beer and burp and fart, I'm not that one.

Like I'm at the gym.

I'm trying to take care of myself.

I walk.

It's not like I, you know, I don't climb mountains and go hiking and lay out in a tent out at night.

But if you, but I do like going to the gym.

I do like to walk.

So if you're somebody who likes to take care of yourself too, I like that.

Yeah.

Are you dating now?

Anyone now?

Yeah.

This is what I learned.

This is what I learned in all of my public marriages, public divorces,

really observing social media.

The moment you start putting stuff out there, everybody wants to know who they are.

And what I realize in putting stuff out there, they did not ask for this life.

I asked for it.

Yeah.

So it's not fair.

And I also feel like there's something I would like to protect.

Yeah.

I'm so open with everything that I talk about.

I even talk about dates that I go on, but I never mention a name.

But it's just like, there's got to be something.

I think people overshare so much on social media.

Yeah.

We're so wanting everybody to see us holding hands and wearing the t-shirt of I'm his and he's mine.

And we got to show people us kissing and,

you know, eating together.

And that's great.

That's great.

But I think it should be a period of date for a minute, get to know them before you let the whole world into your life.

Because the moment something happens and you're like, please respect my privacy.

Please don't make any comments.

I'm turning, but you've given it to us.

You have open, once you open the door in social media to people, they don't forget.

It will always be dredged up, even though you've healed from it.

Yeah.

And

I bet you get the opposite.

You probably also date people that because, you know, you, they know you're famous and they're like, oh, I want to be out.

Like, I want to be out there.

Have you ever had that happen?

It's a protective thing.

I don't want people thinking that if they go on a date with me, we're now going to be posting on Instagram and they get that.

I have been hurt before like that.

Like, okay, all you want to do is go on the red carpet.

Yeah.

While all you want to do is you want me to introduce you to Tina Faye to read your script.

Oh, that has happened before.

And

I can sense it.

Yeah.

And it really, and I go, oh.

So, yeah, I have definitely experienced that.

So you voted in this election.

I do.

How many elections have you voted in?

Because I know for a while you you didn't vote, right?

Yeah, I was at Jehovah's Witness.

So I didn't vote

for, I didn't start voting until I got on the view.

Like I was not into politics.

Like I really could talk about politics all day with somebody.

Yeah, I bet you can.

I love politics.

Yes.

Barbara Walters said something to me that made me do it.

When people talk crazy to you or you feel like you fail, it really is, I feel like, don't look at it as failure.

Just get back up and fix or course correct.

But we need that.

And for the view, I didn't know anything about politics.

I never voted before.

And one time Barbara Walters said to me, dear, read a book.

All I knew was what the church taught me.

That's what it was.

I didn't think for myself.

I just knew what the church had taught me or, you know, what I had learned when I was a witness.

So when she said that, she was like, read a book.

And what I realized is sometimes we have to get out of where we live.

We have to go travel the world.

We have to meet people that are different from us.

Because when you don't, that's how you get prejudiced and that's how you get judgmental when you don't meet people that are not like you, when you meet people that that are different from you.

And I just remember that, what Barbara said to me.

And we were talking about something on the view.

And I remember what I learned.

But Whoopi said, but what do you think?

What do you think about that?

And I was like,

I don't know.

So, you know, just in.

That's so powerful.

to, I just want to say that again because there are, there's going to be so many millions of people listening or watching this that are going to have an aha moment right now, as Oprah would call it, where they're like, wait a minute, I have learned a lot.

I've been taught a lot, but wait a minute, what do I actually think?

Not what does my partner think?

Not what does my parents think?

Not what did my teachers teach me to think.

What do I

actually think?

Yeah.

And so now, yeah, so you got to have Whoopee on because she's, she was just, that one hit me, what Barbara said, what whoopee said, Joy Behar said, because I used to carry the weight of the world on me when I was doing the view.

Oh, I can't let black people down.

I can't let black women down.

I can't let Christians down.

It's a lot, that's a lot to carry.

And Joy Behar said to me, Sherry, the moment you open your mouth, half the world is going to hate you.

So, you know, go by what you feel and what you think.

Yes.

And once I started stepping out of my comfort zone and out of where I lived in Lil Hoffman Estates, Illinois, and I got to meeting people, I'm like, oh,

you can't possibly be

evil.

Your heart is so beautiful.

And I'm supposed to love.

And how am I going to judge you for who you married when I couldn't even make two of them work?

I couldn't get through two.

They lasted both total, maybe six, seven years.

And you have been with your partner for 21 years, somebody doing something

right.

This is a big thing that I'm excited to talk to you about because so many women, but also people, let's just put out there, so many people, we have all this pressure now to post on social.

And then you do and you get attacked.

You say your opinion, you get attacked.

Most women are raised people pleasers.

Everyone's afraid to say what they think.

And then, you know, Joy Behar shared with you, if you just open your mouth, you're going to make half the people hate you.

But life's too short to keep our mouth, like to live with a closed mouth our whole life.

Coming up, this conversation is so incredible.

We made it into two episodes.

And if you're someone who wants to break through fear and learn to truly trust your voice, get what you want in life, and step into your purpose, you are not going to want to miss part two with Sherry Shepard coming up in the next episode of the Jamie Kern Lima Show.

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