How to Break Through Fear, Trust Your Own Voice & Live Your Purpose! With Sherri Shepherd (Pt 2)

Get ready to break through fear and trust your own voice.

I am so excited for this brand new second episode with my incredible guest, Sherry Shepard, where she is sharing things she's never shared before.

And we're diving deep together.

I know this episode is going to leave you so inspired.

I had a full panic attack the day before we started my show.

Completely full panic blown because to develop a talk show takes one to two years.

Who are you?

What are you saying?

Barbara Walters made me cry for three years straight,

but what I learned, she taught me how to find my voice.

At this point in my life, I feel the worst thing you could do is not be your authentic self.

I was just sitting there watching somebody

who is genius, like in her greatness and thinking about every person at home right now who's getting blessed by that laughter, by that joy, because a lot of us don't have that in our lives anywhere else, right?

And we need that.

It feels so good to be able to say, no, this is what I feel.

This is what I think.

I'm not you.

Take what you get and run with it.

If you don't agree with me, it's okay.

My assignment is a big assignment.

Oprah has told me that.

Tyler Perry has told me that.

Ron Roberts has told me that.

It's a big responsibility having a talk show.

This is like a masterclass recipe in how do you live in alignment with your assignment.

That someone right now can apply this no matter what they're doing in their life.

Do you ever hear God talk to you?

I know this is a divine assignment because too many people hug me crying.

And I'm not saying that as an ego thing.

They hug me and they break down in tears.

That's not me.

That's something God is doing.

It's that good.

It's next level.

It's so good.

Jamie Kern-Lima is her name.

Everybody needs Jamie Kern-Lima in their life.

Jamie Kern-Lima.

Jamie, you're so inspiring.

Jamie Kern-Lima.

Get ready to break through fear and trust your own voice.

I am so excited for this brand new second episode with my incredible guest, Sherry Shepard, where she is sharing things she's never shared before.

And we're diving deep together.

And I know this episode is going to leave you so inspired today.

Sherry Shepard is the Emmy Award-winning host of the hit television talk show, Sherry, now in its third season and funnier than ever.

She's also an actress, comedian, author, and mom who day by day and year by year is shining brighter and brighter.

So much so that I am excited to share right here that Sherry is going to be getting a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame this year.

I am so excited to welcome Sherry Shepard back to the Jamie Kern Lima show.

Most women are raised people pleasers.

Everyone's afraid to say what they think.

And then, you know, Joy Behar shared with you, if you just open your mouth, you're going to make half the people hate you.

But life's too short to keep our mouth, like to live with a closed mouth our whole life.

And I just, I want to call this out because to give everyone a little background, maybe who may not know,

you know, when Sherry got a big C on the view, and

somebody listening may not be on the view, but their platform is, you know, the moms at school or the community or the people they work with or whatever.

And people are walking around scared to be who they are or to say how they feel.

And so you just were thrown into this, what became a seven-year crash course in this.

But you,

I know know you've talked about crying for three years straight on the view.

Can you just share, Sherry, like, because this is for everyone listening, how do we, how did you

get to that point of saying, okay, I'm going to open my mouth and half the people aren't going to like me.

So why not just speak my truth anyway?

Because whatever you say, half the people aren't going to like.

And how did you alleviate or maybe you haven't yet, I don't know, but the pressure that we all tend to feel about like, if I say this, this group of people is going to be mad.

If I say this, that group of people is going to be mad, you know, on and on and on.

And before you know it, we're silent and not living our life.

Yeah, I feel at this point in my life, I feel the worst thing you could do is not be your authentic self.

No matter who you offend.

You know,

it's not like you're trying to go out and offend anybody,

but not at the expense of who you are.

Now, I think that we still have to operate in love.

Like, I'm a big in love person.

Yeah.

Because if you operate in love,

it'll inform the way you do things.

I don't go to offend you, but if it does and I know I'm operating in love, then that's, I'm not taking that on.

So

for me, Jamie, it has been, I didn't come all, I didn't come up that way and

I'm all of a sudden speaking my mind.

It was a lot of failures.

It was a lot of humiliations.

When I got on the view, It was everything that I hated to do, I had to do every day on the view.

I was a very fearful person.

I didn't talk.

People think, you know, I'm on this talk show and I just talk and I was not like that.

I was very fearful.

I was very shy.

I did not express my opinion.

I learned it.

I said it, but I was not this Sherry.

So to be in interrupting people.

If I didn't interrupt people on the view, I didn't get hurt.

So I never was allowed to interrupt people when they were talking when I was younger.

I grew up in a very, very strict religious family.

I was not allowed to look adults in the eye when I talked.

I had to force myself to look you in the eye when I talked because I was taught to look at the ground when I talked.

I was taught to respect adults.

And no matter what adults said,

it went to the detriment.

of who I am and being a young child, not being protected with certain adults.

But I was not allowed to say anything.

So it was, it was literally the view.

A lot of people say, oh, they talk bad about the view.

For me, it was one of the best experiences of my life.

I did cry for three years.

Barbara Walters made me cry for three years straight.

But what I learned,

she taught me how to find my voice.

That's what Barbara Walters did for me.

I found my voice on that show.

And what I joke about is I say, oh, oh, now my voice is deep because Barbara told me when your voice is deeper, it projects confidence.

So that I joke about.

But that woman there, she was hard on me.

And she was like, read a book.

Know why you're saying what you're saying.

Be able to defend what you're saying.

And it's okay if you fall.

It's okay if you make a mistake.

And that's what I learned.

I learned that I have, John Murray, who's my producing partner, he would help me on the view.

Like, I'm not sure how I can go up against these ladies and say what I want to say.

And he would always say, what do you think?

How, how, what do you believe?

And Sherry, don't be afraid to say it.

And he would say, you can't carry the weight of everybody on your shoulders.

You can't carry the weight of

black people.

You can't carry the weight of all the Christians.

Because I would censor myself.

Because I would go, they're not going to like it if I say this.

They're not going to like it

if I say that.

So I can't.

And he was like, it's too much.

And once I realized, you know what, it is too much.

I'm stressing.

I'm gaining weight.

I'm eating so much because I'm stuffing all these feelings inside.

It feels so good to be able to say, no, this is what I feel.

And this is what I think.

I'm not you.

Take what you get.

and run with it.

If you don't agree with me, it's okay.

I have my own relationship with God now.

I have, I just,

me, so when people write me and they go, I don't believe you say that and you say this on your show.

You know, I go, I'm okay.

I talk to God all the time.

And I have people that I trust in my life who will tell me if I'm going too far or maybe I shouldn't go here, but I trust them.

So it's been a lot of ups and downs.

And now I'm at this place where I'm okay with saying no.

I don't feel bad about saying no.

I'm not going, no, I'm sorry.

I'm going, no, I can't do it.

I'm okay with, Oprah said something to me when I started this show.

And I said, I have to go visit affiliates because they're the ones who carry my show.

But they were sending me on all of my days off, on all of, you know, on weekends.

And I said, Oprah, I never see Jeffrey.

And I'm missing his parent-teacher conferences.

And I'm stressing.

And she says, Sherry, you have to say no.

You have to.

She said, because you never want Jeffrey to be in the position where you're saying to him, I did all of this for you.

All of this is yours because he doesn't want to hear that.

He wants to know that his mom is around and you teach people how to treat you.

That's what you.

And so now

when I know I need to do it, I go, Jeffrey, I'm running hard.

I got to do this.

And then there's sometimes they'll ask me to do something and I'll go, no, that, nope.

Not giving, nope, not giving up my day.

Like, this is a day off for me.

And normally I go, go, I, I need to, it's Jerry, if Jeffrey's parent teacher, but you were coming out here.

I wanted to talk to you.

And it was like, Jamie doesn't come out here much.

And so she'll be out here in New York.

So this is really the only day we can make it happen.

Well, I want to do it.

So I'm not feeling bad that it's my day off.

And I don't want you to feel bad.

Oh my God, Sherry took her day off.

I wanted to do it.

I made the choice to do it.

I'm okay, but I'm okay with saying no.

I say no to so many things.

How do you make that?

How do you make that decision?

I I remember when Oprah came on my show and I asked her, I said, why are you here?

How did, why did you say yes?

And she said, I felt it was divinely ordered.

And by the way, and she loves you.

She said to give you an extra special hug.

She loves you, as does.

everyone.

But with you making a decision like that, I just, I find this fascinating because I've worked really hard, Sherry, to learn to say no and to learn to not be a people pleaser.

And to learn, for me, I pray, I get still and I try to hear the answer of what I'm supposed to do.

Um, and so, even just you, thank you, by the way.

Thank you for being here on your day off to have this conversation with me, with everybody.

But for you, making that decision, how did you make it?

Do you just go with your gut?

Do you pray about it?

Like when you decide I'm saying no or I'm saying yes, you know, yeah, for the most part, I do pray about it and goes.

This is something one of my prayers is:

Lord, I give you everything.

I give you my career, I give you my relationships, I give you my son,

I give you everything that I desire.

Give me back what you want me to have.

Anything that's not for me, shut that door so fast.

Shut it.

If it's for me, open it up and confirm it for me.

But definitely give me back what you want me to have.

So show me where I'm supposed to go.

Order myself.

I'm big into that.

Lord, if I'm going the wrong way, pull me back and let me get the correction.

Pull me back.

You know, so yeah.

So when I say, yeah, it's not like every time I have to go, well, okay, am I supposed to do this?

I just, at this place in my life, in this season of my life, I want, I think I'm a pretty boring person, but

I have enough nuggets of life that I feel like I want to impart to people,

younger women and men and women who are my age, who are fearful, who go, I don't know if I can start a business right now.

I think people, I'm 57, I'm 55, I'm 60, and I think people have forgotten about me, Sherry.

And I don't think I'm pretty enough.

And I don't think, and I feel like I can speak to that.

So, you know, being the people pleaser, it's too hard.

And it doesn't, life is short.

I don't have enough energy.

I don't have enough stamina to please you.

I got one I have to please and he's the one that's taking care of my son.

And, you know, it's too much.

If it's too stressful, I'm going, I have to, I have to put that on the side.

And if you're part of my stress and you're in a toxic place and you're negative, you're not going to be calling me every night, complaining, complaining, complaining.

I have to put you over here because I know that I'm ordered to do something.

My assignment is a big assignment.

Oprah has told me that.

Tyler Perry has told me that.

Robin Roberts has told me that.

It's a big responsibility having a talk show.

And if I'm over here arguing with this dude, because I think he cheating and you over here and then I got to come out there and go, hey, family, and deliver joy, it's not going to happen.

So some people say, oh, you know, this happened at this age.

And one of the reasons I know is.

Because earlier in my life, I was all over the place.

I'm over here, heartbroken over here.

This one in prison.

I'm talking to this one, you know, arguing with the husband.

One time I was on the view girl when I was going through my divorce with Jeffrey's dad.

And when I tell you, I thought everybody had left.

I was on the phone.

That's a Sherry you never want to see who's from Chicago who could fight you.

I cussed my husband out so bad.

When I tell you every curse word in the book, there would be nobody that would be going to church with me.

I cussed him out.

And I was screaming at the top of my lungs.

And he said to me,

he said, and that's why you, you're not a good mother.

And I like, that's my trigger.

And I was like, every curse word before before I got to a regular word came out of my mouth and um all of a sudden Barbara Walters comes in there she goes are you okay dear and I said oh my gosh and I was like yeah Barbara and I said I'm fine everything is good

I was mortified and she walked out and I went right back to cussing him out.

Yeah.

So all of that, like, I bet you she walked away proud.

Probably.

I bet you because she found her voice.

Knowing Barbara, probably i'm telling you and and um it just

it was hard though you it's hard to do that and you have to go on a talk show yes and deliver and deliver joy and just you know and and i want to be completely open so i go i can't take on i can't take on the world i know

I know who's supposed to be in my life,

who I allow into my life, into my energy space.

And I'm very very firm about that.

So, and I think it's probably just, it's from years of learning and growing and

saying, wow, I love this person.

And I, and 20 years ago, we probably wouldn't have been friends.

The person that I have in my papers, my estate papers, to help with Jeffrey.

If something, God forbid, ever happens to me

or his dad, is one of my best friends in the world, Tom Borden

and his partner.

Well, no, it's his husband, Jimmy.

And they've been married 21 or 22 years.

And I asked him, I said, I love you guys so much and you love Jeffrey.

If something happens, this is when Jeffrey was little, would you take him, please?

Because I know your hearts.

I know your love for God.

And I know your love for your family and each other and your two kids.

And I don't care.

I don't care what anybody thinks, but you

will take care of my son.

Because when I was going through my divorce, they took me in and I slept for three days while they just took care of Jeffrey, taught him how to make pancakes, took him all over.

He was with the grandparents,

and they loved on him so much.

And I said, Will you be his guardians?

How have you on your journey?

You know, you were raised Jehovah's Witness

and now Christian.

Yes.

And a lot of people are on this journey in their life of going, how do I not necessarily unlearn things, but how do I just take a step back and actually go, what is it I believe and become my own, become my own woman, become my own person.

For you on that journey, like what role does this faith play in your life now?

And how did that transition happen?

When I tell you, I don't, my faith is so important to me.

I don't,

it is everything to me.

I believe my faith is why I have this show.

My faith is why I think my talk show, it's not like I do anything different from other talk show hosts, with the exception of doing my monologue every day.

Like nobody in the talk show space, with the exception of Ellen, has done a monologue and can speak for that long.

Ellen was good for that.

That is what I do.

So nobody else does that.

But I mean, it's really, there's a formula for talk shows.

You have celebrity guests on.

You have, if you want to come and promote your book, you know, we're, it's about celebrities.

We have a chef on, we cook, you have, you do giveaways.

It's, it's, you know, you play games.

But what I bring to it is different from anybody else.

It's a lot of people that would do that formula and it would not work because you've seen talk shows that don't work.

There's something that God has given to me.

It is an assignment that God has given to me that makes all of this come together where it's special.

I'm trying to think, like when they test me with focus groups, and they test everybody, actors, anybody.

What do people think of you?

And I look at, we have a little dial, and people, you know, they turn their dial if they're not interested in what I'm saying or if they're interested.

The dial goes up if they're excited.

They make comments.

And that's agony to sit there and watch these focus groups, how how people feel about you.

And it always came back.

We love Sherry because she goes to the edge, but she doesn't go over the edge.

She makes it funny.

You know, when she works with

the experts who, you know, who show me how, oh, and now we're going to do this, you know, cold plunge pool.

And

we love how Sherry interacts with people.

We love the joy she has.

That's God.

That's him putting that extra zhuzhin over what I do.

So my faith,

this is why I don't get distracted.

I know my show is, it is supposed to be about joy and laughter.

Before I walk out that door, when they lift up the door and they say, welcome, Sherry Shepard, John Murray and I and our executive producer, Vanita Wynn, we're praying for the audience, the live audience who's watching, and we're praying for the audience who's watching me at home.

And our prayer is always Bless them to feel better than when they came.

And then when they leave, those two, I pray by myself and I say, Lord, bless the audience to see the side of you that is laughter, that is laughter from the gut.

Bless them to see that side of you that loves

a good joke, that side of you that is light.

Bless them.

If there's a heart that's heavy, touch that heart through me.

Bless them to see you in me, whatever I'm doing.

And if I'm, Jamie, sometimes you don't have it sometimes i feel empty when i'm standing behind that door i feel like i don't have the jokes i don't have i'm tired i'm worried i'm and i go fresh mercy fresh grace fresh energy and fresh jokes

and i pray for everybody touch them in that spot and bless them

that they get it that they get what what you want me to bring.

And then that door opens and I don't think about it anymore.

I go out there and I go because

and I tell people, walk into what was already written.

And so he wrote it for me.

He gave it to me.

So I feel like I can't fail because he gave it to me.

So just be confident.

And I'll go out there and I'll go, I don't know what I'm going to say.

I'm not quite sure what I'm going to, I don't feel good about the jokes I came up with.

It doesn't matter.

Something comes.

Always.

Always.

Walk into what's already written.

Walk with what has already been written.

Walk into it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

This is so good.

I want to call out something you said.

You said, I don't get distracted, right?

And

in previous years in your life, this has happened and that's happening.

You know, I could talk for myself.

I've been in my past in relationships that took me down or friendships or this or that or that's happening or that person says something.

And it's like the thing that is so poignant that you're sharing that I want to call out because so many people are like, how do I find my purpose?

How do I live in alignment with my assignment?

How do I feel fulfilled?

How do I know like this is what I'm doing?

And the things that I'm hearing you share are so powerful.

One, you talk about falling many times.

You've shared, you know, women and other people who have been sources of wisdom in your life.

And now you're like in alignment with your assignment on the show.

You're not letting, you're at this point in your life where you're saying how you feel.

Yeah, it might, it might offend people.

It might lift a whole lot of other people up, but you're not carrying that worry, the burden of worry anymore.

You're protecting yourself.

And I think that's a big thing because so many of us like, oh, yeah, that friend does lower my vibration, but I'm going to feel bad if I don't, you know, all the things.

And before we know it, we're doing that for 20 people.

We're wondering why we feel out of alignment.

And I'm sitting here right in front of you and just feeling your energy and seeing your eyes and having just come from your show not too long ago and experienced it firsthand.

But I also know the very real side of it, which is not every day can we feel like I can just go out there and crush it or I could deliver.

And so you sharing how do you get to that point every day to be able to go out there and be able to do it, right?

You're protecting yourself offset because you know, you know, your assignment.

You have friends like Tyler and Oprah.

confirming it, right?

And then you go out there and do it and you talk about your intention for doing it.

You're clear with your partners on the show, your intention.

You're clear about your own intention.

I just have to say, this is like a masterclass recipe in how do you live in alignment with your assignment.

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I just have to say this is like a masterclass recipe in how do you live in alignment with your assignment, that someone right now can apply this no matter what they're doing in their life even with with talking like this i go lord i don't know what

because i ramble and i go but i'm going to trust that you are going to touch somebody to get what they need from it and sometimes you know you walk away and you go oh my gosh i didn't say this i didn't say that i don't a lot of times i just a big mantra for me last year and this year's has been don't even overthink it

don't don't waste energy overthinking it because i go god you're gonna put put the zhuzhin spice on it.

And whatever that person in that coral suit with the black leather pants who was sitting in the audience, I know I wanted to say this to this.

She's going to get what she was supposed to have gotten from me.

Yes.

And so a lot of times I will be on the show and I'll say something, something will come to me, a joke, and I'll do it.

And I'll go, oh, oh, I should have did that.

And I go, you know what?

It happened.

It's not, it's not the end of the world.

Yeah.

God is over this.

It's okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, do you ever feel God?

Do you ever hear God talk to you?

I can hear,

it's so funny.

Earlier in my career, I heard it all the time.

God, and I would say he sounded like Barry White.

There were certain things that it was just like, I was eating this one particular

pink berry, which Niecy Nash introduced me to.

I blame her to this day.

And I get, because I'm a type 2 diabetic.

You know, sugar, I can't have that much sugar.

And it was a lot of sugar.

And I was, and I'm addicted to sugar.

And I was eating it, you know, getting a whole take-home container, then getting a large.

I would go out, you know, at 11 o'clock at night to Pinkberry in the summertime and get it.

And I heard a voice as clear as day.

It went, no more pinkberry.

When I tell you, that voice scared me.

I was like, who?

Who?

I think you audibly heard it.

Oh, oh, it audibly, audibly, I heard it.

I didn't do it for four years.

It had to be about four years.

I stopped scared me so bad.

But what it was, was it was that voice that was just like, you're going to die if you keep taking as much sugar as you are taking.

Like, so I can hear God in those moments.

Sometimes when I'm on the show and I say something and I, you know, and I want to keep going because everybody's laughing.

I'm a comic.

I hear that laughter.

I will keep tagging with something and I can hear, it's enough.

That's enough.

Like I hear that.

That is enough, especially while I'm on the sex thing.

Audibly or like audibly

something inside.

Like a whisper going, that's enough.

That you know is coming from that source greater than yourself, absolutely.

And I go, that's why when people will um

send me comments and they'll go, How did you, how dare you do this?

And you do this, and I go, I'm fine because I got a higher person telling me when, when, when it's time to stop, yeah, or people that I trust that are in my life, like being a type two,

having type two diabetes.

Yeah, God spoke through my son when my son said to me one time, Mommy,

if you die, who's gonna be my bodyguard?

And I was eating a candy bar and I said, what?

Because when I eat candy or sugar, I get irritated.

I get real irritable.

And I said, what?

And he goes, who's going to be my bodyguard if you die?

Which was, who's going to protect me if you're not here?

That was all I needed to hear.

I was like, oh, I got to get this together.

So I believe that I don't necessarily hear God, you know, somebody's just sitting next to you going, you know, we just have a conversation.

People are around me who say things and it confirms

what I'm feeling.

I've been in relationships where I, you know, my will was like, I want this.

I want this thing right here.

And I, sometimes I hate praying that prayer, going, Lord, if he is not for me,

slam the door shut.

Yes.

So that I know, so that I can keep moving.

Because also, I know if God had given me the talk show when I was really like, you know, it's so funny to me.

God gave me this talk show

at 50 I think 54 was when I got it Jamie I'm tired half the time I don't remember the names of people I'm like I can't drop it like it's hot like I used to I'm like what are you giving me the talk show now in my 20s Lord and 30s it would have been on and popping but you know what Sherry probably would have got on drugs Sherry probably would have been with the wrong person.

Sherry probably would have had the person she with,

you know,

as part of the show because he wants to be part of the thing.

It just would have been a mess.

And I know this is a divine assignment because too many people walk up to me and say, My mother has Alzheimer's, and you are the only time I can see her the way she used to be because she laughs when she watches you.

My husband passed away two years ago.

I get this when I go to comedy clubs, when they tell me how much they love my show.

My husband passed away, and we watched your show together.

When I was in the hospital going through dialysis, I watched your show and your show kept me.

Too many people hug me crying and I'm not saying that as an ego thing.

They hug me and they break down in tears.

That's not me.

That's something God is doing.

It's giving, he's giving you some kind of respite.

He's healing your heart, balming, a balm around your spirit with laughter and joy.

Yeah.

And so people, so In my 20s, in my 30s,

that wouldn't have been happening because it would have been about Sherry.

I'm feeling myself like I'm hanging out with the celebrities.

I'm at this party.

I'm with this one.

You know?

Yeah.

Now I'm very thankful.

I'm very thankful that it came now.

I'm not out in the streets.

You know, it's hard to get me out in the streets.

I'm at home.

Once I take my bra off, girl, I'm at home.

Me too, me too.

So,

you know,

just going back to faith, because I don't know where we were.

And don't you think your steps are ordered?

Like the show in your 50s, like A, you have enough life experience, enough falls, enough rises, enough falls to like carry the weight of what a show is, enough wisdom, having put in the reps, like all of it.

That's what it is.

It's like the life experience that I have.

So when I sit in a chair, I'll give, I love pop culture.

We do pop culture,

and the people who don't like me will say, you always bring it back to you.

Yeah, absolutely.

Because I have an experience with this.

So when Gen Zers are talking about different things,

I have an opinion about that because I've been through it.

I have an opinion about learning to say no.

I have an opinion because I've fallen and got, I have an opinion about prenups.

I have an opinion because I've been through so much.

So when I sit in that chair and talk,

I think people are listening because they can relate to me.

Yeah.

You know?

And I do have the life experience.

And that's, and also, I remember a pastor,

I visited a church one time, trying to remember how he said this, but it hit me.

He said, sometimes your dream does not come true because you haven't developed the faith to handle that dream.

Like sometimes you'll get something and if it crashes, you don't know how to, you don't know how to rebound.

And sometimes you have to mature.

That's what he said.

You have to mature into the reality of that dream.

Because if something happens,

you can still keep going forward.

And we see that with a lot of social media people.

They get it.

Unfortunately, I'm seeing a lot of TikTokers and social media people who are committing suicide.

They're dying.

And I'm not trying, I don't know their life, but I do know

you get it so fast and you're not prepared.

for what comes.

I've talked to people who are influencers and they're not prepared for the backlash that comes on their social media.

They're not prepared.

They don't know how to not take it personally.

They're not prepared for because they put, this is a new day of fame.

You put your life out there,

but now you're getting it back.

And people don't forget what you said.

Yes.

You know, four years ago.

They don't forget.

And that's how they make their money to put their life out there with their families and their kids.

And now, you know, and they pitch perfection.

And when things crumble, They don't know how to handle the fame.

They don't know how to handle the money.

They don't know how to handle the family dynamics dynamics that happen when you rise.

And now you feel like you got to bring everybody up and cancel culture.

You're so just immersed in not having put in enough reps to go, I can handle it.

Absolutely.

People don't like me or agree with me in this moment.

Absolutely.

And so this is, this is the thing where it's like, I had to, because I've wanted this dream since I saw Oprah.

Yeah.

And I talked about it when she came out.

I was emotional.

Yeah.

Since I saw her, and I went out and pitched a talk show before the view.

I remember I got a pilot for a talk show.

And I went out there and I was bubbly and I was joyful and I was just like, hey, my voice is very high.

Hey, hey, everybody.

How you doing?

And those executives kept saying,

We need you to be you.

And I go, but I am me.

Like I love, I love, and I was crying.

And I was like, Lord, thank you for this blessing.

This is so amazing.

And I'd sat in my room and I cried because I go, I don't know what they want from me.

And and everything we did a fashion show we had a chef and we and everything was funny we did it in New York on the Kelly Ripper Kelly and Regis Philbin we did it on their set it was it they packed the room with people who wanted to come and see me because I was an actress so I the people were loving me and I thought I was giving them everything I was standing on my head but it didn't happen because I didn't know who I was.

I just was like, tell me what you want me to do and I'm going to give it to you and make it funny.

And they kept coming to my room going, just, can you just be, you know, that sassy Jerry was he on this on stage?

And I go, but I am sassy.

That's what I said.

I am sassy.

No, no, I'm not.

Now I know who I am.

I think that's why a lot of young kids or young people,

so you have to find, you have to, and that's experience.

That's life.

That's failures.

That's falls, major falls.

And you get back up and you dust yourself off and you go, I'm I'm stronger than I thought.

So, on this show,

I can say when somebody says, Why don't we put so-and-so on?

That doesn't align with who I am.

And I don't think I know my audience.

I know my audience.

They're not going to dig this person because I know

who I'm talking to.

I'm talking to single mothers.

I'm talking to women who want to start their businesses.

I'm talking to, you know,

people who don't feel seen.

So, I know exactly who Sherry is.

I know when I sit on that chair and I tell a story, somebody is going to relate to that story.

So it's, so I can say,

no, I don't, I'm not interested in having this person on

because I need them to, I know, I, yeah, we could have a man do it, but I'd rather a woman do it because she's going to say, she's going to touch them in a place that maybe a man.

can't.

So let's have her on because I know she's going to inspire.

This is so good.

So many people think like, oh, my hope hope or dream is too late or this or that.

And getting this talk show in your 50s and you being able.

54, girl.

You being able to say, this is who I am.

This is who my audience is.

This is what's going to work.

Probably you wouldn't have been able to do that.

Not my, not my.

Pre-the view.

No, I would have been too scared.

Yeah.

I would have been too, because I would have thought they know more than me.

They know more than me.

So I've never done a talk show so they can tell me.

But here's the deal.

At this age, I may not know the ins and outs of a talk show, but I know who I am.

And I know, and I know, and I'm not coming from a place of arrogance, but a place of its divine order.

And because God is in it, you can

take me out of the seat and put somebody else in to replace me, but then you're not going to get me.

People are watching Sherry because they want what Sherry has to say.

They want to hear what I have to say because they can relate to me.

There's somebody out here who has a child who has special needs who are who's like, I don't know what I'm going to do.

I'm a single mom and I'm scared.

And then they hear me, even being a celebrity, go, I'm scared too.

And I'm trying to, somebody out there has a teenager and they're going, I don't know.

I feel like I'm crazy.

Okay, well, Sherry just said, she feels like she's crazy too because her son doesn't want her around.

And she's feeling, you know, it's like somebody out there can relate to

what I'm dealing with.

And I know that.

You know that.

I know that.

I know who you are.

I want to brag for a second, okay?

Because for anyone listening to this show right now

who is not for whatever reason not watching the Sherry show.

Okay.

I just have to say this.

We pay.

So you know this.

First of all,

number one, you need to watch it.

It's that good.

It's next level.

It's so good.

And if you're busy, you work all this, DVR, DVR it, record it.

And we're on YouTube.

Like the full episodes are on YouTube.

When you look at the studies that show the impact of laughter, you know, on your mental health, on your mood, we are lonier than ever.

We're a country more stressed than ever, more filled with anxiety than ever.

Absolutely.

Right.

Studies show just 15 minutes of being exposed to laughter or joy or something positive a day has so much, you know, so many effects on you.

I just, what I think is remarkable, and I just want to brag for one second, okay, because I have paid a lot of money to, and, and it was well worth it to go to a stand-up show, like for many different times in my life.

I love it.

It's so fun.

I love it.

And I'm always in awe when someone has a great act and then they'll perfect that act and they'll do it all year and they'll tour.

That's amazing.

I love it.

The entire first whole part of your show every single day is better than almost any stand-up show I've ever seen.

And you're doing a new one every single day.

Every day.

Every single day.

And so for anyone who tunes in,

it's like you're getting this fresh, like real-time.

I'm going to call it anointing, but this fresh, for anyone who doesn't know what that word means, this fresh, real-time, just,

you know,

comedic,

soul-filled, connected, laugh-out loud part of your day.

And your jokes are so funny.

When I was in the green room coming on a show a few weeks ago, I almost cried my eyelashes off.

Okay.

Because I was laughing so hard.

Our entire room, our entire green room, was laughing so hard.

And you were talking about something with your feet and walking on the runway, but being grateful baby oil was just back in stock.

It was the whole thing.

We were laughing so hard.

It was like, and I just watched, and I felt,

I felt like, I didn't feel like I knew I was just sitting there watching somebody

who is genius, like in her greatness and thinking about every person at home right now who's getting blessed by that laughter, by that joy, because a lot of us don't have that in our lives anywhere else, right?

And we need that.

And I just want to say for a second, I believe you when you say God is in it, because I don't know that a human can do that, can come out and every single day be delivering that kind of comedy that is next level yeah that can I just say it what's so funny is how I know God is in it because when we started the show I took over Wendy Williams time slot and I had a full panic attack the day before we started my show completely full panic blown because it takes to develop a talk show takes one to two years to develop what is the theme of it who are you what are you saying let's test it out in front of different crowds it it it literally is a year that goes before and then they have to sell it i stepped into a very unique situation where the time slot was open

and the affiliates were already on board I have gained now more affiliates.

I think when I came in, it was already on board like 86%.

Now I'm at 95%

sold across the country.

But I developed my talk show literally in a month because I had been filling in, but I, but I knew what I wanted to do all my life.

Like I knew,

I knew what kind of show I wanted,

but I didn't know the ins and the outs.

And

the day before,

you know, I wanted a comedy writer, but we weren't able to get a comedy writer to help me.

Ellen had about 12 comedians giving her jokes when she would come and do her monologue.

Jimmy Kimmel has a room full of comics.

Every talk show that does any kind of comedy, any monologue, they have a room full of comics because some jokes don't work and they do the other jokes.

We couldn't have a comic.

It was just me.

And I said, Lord, I'm not, I can't write.

I don't even know what I'm going to talk.

Like, I got to come out and do a monologue.

What am I going to do?

I cried.

I lost it.

And something said, I always go something said because I don't know who I'm talking to.

The Holy Spirit.

It was a voice inside that talked to me and said, what did Oprah say to you?

Because Oprah had talked to me.

That was divine.

Like, she left me a message.

She's like, I'm trying to call you.

I'm like,

first of all, who is this?

She said, it texted, this is Oprah.

I was like, no, it's not.

She was like, this is Oprah.

And I've been trying to call you.

Maybe we can figure out a time that we can talk.

And I'm like, I'm figuring out a time I can talk with Oprah.

And she called me and literally for an hour, just in talking to me, I got so many nuggets of things.

And she made me laugh.

And so

that voice said,

and when I was telling people what Oprah was talking about, and a lot of it was serious because I look at it differently, they were cracking up, cracking up.

And it said, Talk about when you talk about what Oprah said.

And I said, I can't say what Oprah Oprah told me.

You don't say everything Oprah told you, but there are things that you can say about Oprah.

Just talk about it.

And that was my monologue.

When I came out, how I, Oprah Winfrey called me.

And I said, this ain't Oprah.

And she had to convince me that she was Oprah.

And she taught, and

my arthritis kicked in as I was taking notes.

I still got the 12 pages of notes from Oprah.

And what she was telling me.

And that was my monologue.

And that's how I knew this is God.

Because when stuff, when I don't have it, it's the where you, where I am weak, you are strong.

He gives me what I need because he gave me the assignment.

Because he gave it to me.

He's not going to give it to me and he ain't going to work it out and be like, oh my God, didn't nobody tell me that

nobody told me she already didn't know her jokes.

Nobody told me that she didn't have any energy.

Nobody told me she can't remember people's name.

No, if he gave it to you, he's going to give you everything you need

to see it through.

And that's why I got my second season.

I got COVID the first day back

on my second season of Sherry.

I had to call John Batiste, the amazing jazz singer, because I was in his face.

He was about to fly to France to finish his documentary, which he wanted Oscar for, and let him know, John, I got COVID.

I had to call Michelle Ruteau, who has her show Survival of the Fittest.

She's about to go to London to do a comedy tour to tell, I got COVID.

Neither one of them had it.

I had to tell Leslie Jones, who was on a book tour, I got COVID.

I was out for a week and a half.

So they had to show reruns from the first season.

And one of the producers, he's no longer with my show, he said, because whenever you show reruns, ratings go down.

And he said, oh,

if the ratings keep going like this, you're not going to be on in the summer.

And

I panicked.

And my girlfriend, you always got a girlfriend who know God better than you.

She said, Sherry, first of all, what are you being scared for?

God, the one gave it to you.

Did he say the show?

Gonna go off there?

Did he not know you were going to get COVID?

The show not going off to God say

it's time for the show to go off.

And I was like, you know what?

Because I'm blowing my nose and sick.

I go, it's going to be fine.

It's going to be fine.

Isn't the girlfriend that knows God better than you the best?

The best.

You need one of those.

The best, right?

Everyone needs one of those.

Everyone needs one of those.

I like you.

You are so good.

You are really, you are really, really good at this, Jamie.

So continue

because it's very anointed.

It's very anointed.

I just spoke in front of 20,000 people and they wanted me to be a mo speak.

It was like for the Society of Human Resources managers.

And I can do stand-up for 20,000 people.

No problem.

Stepping out of my comfort zone.

And I just, I just think, it's it's just something that stays in my mind.

They hired me to do an hour, speak for an hour in front of 20,000 people.

The room was already packed, sold.

And I panicked and said, how am I going to, Lord, I do stand up.

Like these people, I don't know what I'm going to say.

I'm not even worthy to be.

What am I going to tell human resource managers?

And when I tell you,

I was trying to do cards and things and notes and give them something they could take notes about.

And it was just a mess and my girl I had a panic attack again the night I was supposed to do it there was also a big well-known actor who we know who was on TV on a big show they also hired him to be a keynote speaker he canceled at the last minute and they saw him at a WNBA game so he didn't go I think fear took over

and my girlfriend this one who knows God better than me she said

They don't expect perfection and they have nothing to judge you against.

So they don't know if you're going to mess up.

And I'm like but if they want graphics and I got pictures and they got a clicker and it's 20 20,000 people who paid to come to the seminar and she said all you got to do is show up all if he called you to do it you just got to show up and he'll do the rest

And I got to the venue, I saw 20,000 chairs and was just like freaking out.

And I said, I need a table to put my note cards.

I had 19 note cards that I was supposed to refer to.

Then the clicker didn't work.

Then they didn't have anybody to do the clicker for my pictures.

My publicist had to do it.

She was like, I don't know.

You didn't even tell me you was using pictures.

It was just, and the air conditioning was so strong and my cards kept blowing.

So I had to put something on top, but then I couldn't read it.

Then I didn't have my glasses on.

And they announced me and I walked past all those people and I said, Lord.

I just got to give it to you.

Give me what I need.

I can't remember all of my acronyms.

Do you know?

And I told him, I said, I don't think I'm only going to do 45 minutes.

At an hour and 15 minutes,

there was a note on one of the screens that said, Sherry, you got to wrap it up.

We have another seminar.

So an hour and 20, I spoke

and was mobbed by so many human resource managers who wrote, the president told me, he said, you, they said, by far, you were the best keynote speaker.

You gave them, you were authentic.

You were you.

My My, my new Valentinos, I never had a pair of Valentino shoes, got stuck in the stage,

and God gave me a joke that got me out of it.

And the, the, the president of the human resources managers, he was single.

So I had jokes for days.

I said, I know you're going to buy me another pair of shoes.

It was, it was, and I keep that.

It was so phenomenal how.

All I had to do was show up because

it wasn't about me.

It was about what God wanted to be done with the folks.

And I kept going, I didn't say this.

I didn't say that.

But they didn't need it.

They didn't know.

So many people wrote and said, now

I've been fearful all my life.

And you just showed me how to get past fear, how to manage fear.

You showed me how I can empower people with love, my team with love.

I don't remember what I told them, but I knew it was amazing.

Yeah.

When I got off and they had to.

bring other security people from the other seminars to get me out of the room, how impactful it was, but it wasn't about me.

Yeah.

And I think if people can take it off of them and go,

what is my assignment here?

What do you want to do through me?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And in any situation, big or small, they're going to meet someone for coffee.

Don't freak out over it.

Just say, oh, my God, if you want this relationship to happen, just move through me.

Let me be myself.

If they want to be funny, they want to be more funny and drop some jokes.

I'm going to say to everyone today, because I know we started off the conversation about being funny, but I think, you know, and maybe Sherry, maybe I'm projecting my own stuff because I feel like I'm funny, but then sometimes I like hold back and I get introverted and I don't say the funny thing.

And my kids the other day said, you know, dad is funny.

Mama snuggles.

And I'm like, I'm funny.

I'm funny.

I'm going to challenge everyone listening.

The next time you just think of something funny today just say it just say it just say it one one little baby step at a time absolutely in touch with your humor in touch with your funny right because I think like that's what I'm gonna do one I'm just gonna start saying the jokes and seeing if they land and not yes and then most importantly tune in to Sherry.

Tune in to Sherry every single day.

DVR'd.

I have it DVR'd.

So I'll watch it.

I'll watch it if I can't make a show.

I'll watch it at night.

It is good for this.

It is like soul care in a show because we all need love.

We all need that example that you set of approaching everything with love.

And also we just need that beautiful laughter in our life

and who you are.

And I want to say thank you for how you showed up here too, because I love seeing all these sides of you and seeing like the like the strong person that you are and who how you know who you are and how you know how to say no and you know when to say yes and your faith.

And thank you so much.

Thank you.

I'm so grateful.

Come with the first of many.

I don't know.

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