Ras Trent

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Hey, guys.

Can I just start by saying I held our listeners in higher regard than they have revealed themselves to be?

Ooh.

I thought we had sort of an elevated listenership, people whose minds were not in the gutter.

And yet multiple people commented because I talked about how Chris Martin gave me his throat spray when I lost my throat.

And maybe I worded it in a way that was a little eggy.

Oh, how'd you word it?

I said I was just pumping the Chris Martin juice into my throat.

Oh, now I see.

And the amount of people that took to the comments

to say not only, I can't believe that's how he said it, and I can't believe everybody just let it pass.

But you were saying it to be kind of flowery and funny in the wording, but not necessarily just straight up that he's jizzing down your throat.

And I gave it you grace.

Thank you.

And you deserve it, and you've earned it on this podcast, especially.

I guess I thought I deserve a little bit more grace from our listeners.

Why is Andy squinting at his screen so hard?

He's just squinting at the computer screen like it was like,

what the heck is happening here?

I was just, you know, doing research for this episode of the pod.

But I will say, Seth, I didn't blink at it because I assumed you just meant the Chris Martin just in your throat.

Right.

Down your throat.

Into a down your throat.

I see.

And you always refer to them as your juices.

So I got that it was his juices.

Yeah.

I mean, reading it back, it is kind of, I wish I had written it.

Oh.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

It's the combination of doubt.

I mean, you look at it now, and it's a very short line, line, but to have pumping, uh, juice and throat all in one, it was kind of asking for it.

Wait, can I ask?

Did he tell you what was in the spray?

Uh, no, he just kept saying it's high in protein, right?

You teed him up, Keith.

You teed him up, the lonely Ivan and Seth Meyers podcast show.

And I apologize to Mr.

Martin, who is nothing but an absolute gentleman.

Yeah, he's your cool jacket inspiration.

He got you through update.

Yeah.

By the way, this is the episode.

Ross Trent is

the cool jacket.

It is the episode.

The epaulettisode?

The epauletta so

the epaulettisode.

Let's go with the episode.

The epaulettisode.

The epaulette.

This is it.

This is Amy does not make it to this show.

In the Josh Brolin show, which was the week before, she does her very pregnant hardcore rap as Sarah Palin, one of the great moments for My Money Invest in Out history.

Andy, you're in it.

I helped Amy write one line of that rap, and it was the least funny line in the whole thing.

That's very nice of you to admit.

I tried to make it like a good rhyme, but it was not a good laugh.

And then I felt guilty afterwards.

Amy did a lot of, I think, wrote most of that by herself, and it's a real killer.

She did a great job, and it played hot.

H-O-T, hot.

In Wasilla, we chill, baby, chilla, but in the bedroom, it's drill baby drilla, I believe.

Some version of that.

yeah wow the memory still trap i mean it's real good but uh were we recording when we talked that yorm's not here this week or was that that i mean i know seth said we were starting after that we should establish you guys tell me because i feel like i don't know why he's not here he's shooting a commercial okay i saw that it's with beck bennett because they sent me a photo i don't know anything else okay i mean he's a sellout That's a reunion because they did all those other commercials together.

Right.

They did all the AT ⁇ T ones before Beck was on SNL, all the ones where he was with children talking about cell phone plans or something.

York's, if he was here, he would talk about, he's very passionate about products.

That's why he does the ads a lot.

Yeah.

He said he he can't make the pod, but he is going to, they are going to pause the commercial shoot so he can jump on and do the ad reads.

Yeah.

And I guess he's like yelled pretty hard at the actual, the, you know, the commercial, the client, as they call him in the ad world.

And he's like, you're going to tell me I can't go do my ads while I'm doing your ads?

Yeah, yeah.

I directed a Magruber ad on the Super Bowl.

A Super Bowl.

A three-parter.

They only aired one part.

Yeah, so there you go.

Yorm's not here, in case everybody's wondering, but he's not here.

But this is, I'm just going to say off the top, we're going to talk about Ross Trent today.

Ross Trent, I have nothing but great things to say about,

is in the body of one of the best shows I think we ever did in and golden era.

It's really, I think it's a Mount Rushmore and Golden Era show.

Who is the host?

Ham.

First John Hamm.

Oh,

yes.

First John Ham.

And it's kind of crazy because the show is so good,

you know, in no small part due to John Hamm.

But then we have this lovely Ross Trent, which, of course, he's not in.

And I think that adds a great deal as well.

Yeah, and Ross Trent played good.

Yeah.

And we were happy, but we also knew going into it that Ross Trent was like brimming with references that a normal SNL crowd might not immediately go crazy for.

Now is as good a time as ever to jump in and say, I love Ross Trent.

And I still, I rewatched it today and realized I'm still not even halfway there in the references.

A lot of the fun of it for us was just referencing reggae and dance hall songs we've loved throughout the years.

Yeah.

And doing it through the lens of so many

people that we actually would come across growing up in the Bay Area and going to UC Santa Cruz for college for two years and going to the Reggae on the River Festival in Northern California and et cetera, et cetera.

It was definitely like this is a character in

our lives and in our world.

And it was our hope to sort of make this sort of the quintessential that guy song.

ding, ding, ding, ding, woah.

Who damn,

you know what test me champion sound?

Was this on the pod already, Andy, that you told the actual that there was a person that said

like a very patois line to you?

I feel like it's, did we, you already did it?

I think I talked about it in one of those SNL docs, but the story was

me and my friends in high school, we went to Berkeley High School in the Bay.

We're really into dance hall and reggae, as we've said a million times but we went out to this city called petaluma to see a show with this band the itals who are you know roots reggae not household names in the states but we were obsessed with them and it was so cool that they were playing this tiny venue out in petaluma and we went all out there together and it was incredible and they sounded great and After the show, it was in this like old movie theater almost, like old theater, and it had like stairs in the lobby that went up to the bathrooms.

And me and all my friends were sitting in the stairwell.

And this dude who had been at the show walked out, dressed like he was like straight out of office space, you know what I mean?

Like khakis tucked in, button up and glasses.

And he just walked up to us and clearly needed to get by.

And he just went, excuse I.

And we all were like, whoa,

what?

And we were just like, oh, of course, yeah, man.

Like, went to the side and he walked up into the bathroom.

And we were all just like, oh my God, I can't fucking believe he just said.

that.

We're like, is he actually a Rasta?

Or was he like thinking he was talking to us in a way we would understand?

Because we were clearly just like young, scrubby white kids and not Rastafarians, you know what I mean?

But I guess maybe some of my friends, a little bit.

I really.

We still to this day don't know the answer.

It was a big mystery.

But that quote became like a running joke with my friend group for the next like 20 years or whatever, where we'd see each other and go, Excuse I, in the most, the most like businessman voice you could come up with, basically.

I've got a few years on you guys, and I don't think the hyper-specificity to Rastafarianism was anything I'd seen before, but we definitely had guys I was in college with who looked exactly like Ross Trent.

Yes.

So I enjoyed it on that level, but I was always aware there was like a second and third level that was beyond my preference voice.

So many white dudes we knew, and some of them them we knew from like elementary school, you know what I mean?

Growing up in Berkeley and then the Bay Area.

And then, like, all of a sudden, and by the way, this was me for about a month and a half.

All of a sudden, big of you to admit that.

They have dreads, you know what I'm saying?

And are like, I'm like, we're all smoking a little bit of weed, but like, all of a sudden, and I never did this level, but there would be people you know that were just speaking in patois

and like basically saying they were Ostafarian.

Rastafarian and you're just like what

like our parents hang out

like it's not you can't do that you can't just do that I want to say disclaimer that we are not experts on any of this either like we just were fans of the music and so yes we but we could just sense like it's not like we're masters like know what it

much about being Rastafari, but we know they're not.

We know enough to know that.

So your hyper-specificity is not like a deep observation about Rastafarianism.

Your only observation was about the dudes who were pretending to be Rastafarianism.

Yes.

Yes.

Who were adopting it as their personality as like a quirk in high school and college.

While also saying they didn't know much, because they probably knew about as much as us.

Right.

So we're also that they're adopting it as a personality trait, but also don't know even exactly what they're saying or adopting.

But also like, because it's connected to the music it's for them it's like being like now I'm goth you know what I mean but I'm like yeah that's a religion though like that's really crazy you should be doing that

there's a lot that's a push way to put it being grunge or being goth or being Rasta that's how they're thinking of it and it's not that yes

And also just anytime a person like comes back after summer break and talks completely different, it's like a hilarious and sad thing.

And this is so much worse than an accent because it is a truly different way of talking.

Oh my God.

Yeah.

The first time your like white friend you know from elementary school is like, I and I, we're going to go.

And you're just like, nope, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Because it's not even a foreign language.

It's the language you know, just like in a different order.

And it's all just ripped from the records we like.

You know what I mean?

Like we all love that music.

It's so fucking dope.

And there's a million great records.

And we were, it was like, we listened to hip-hop, we listened to old soul soul and funk, we listened to reggae and dancehall, we listened to grunge, we listened to everything.

And there was a stretch of time where like we really got deep into that and stayed into it.

And it just stuck a little too sticky, I think, for a couple people.

I do think your idea is right, Keeve.

We should do a rewatch together in pieces.

But before we start it,

Trent is really just the perfect name.

Just shout out to the choice of Trent.

Thanks.

I mean, it seemed like.

It's just going with that Eddie Murphy white guy voice.

Yeah, exactly.

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uh all right so uh could you do it keeve can you share let me let me share

I mean, right away, what was that college we went to?

We went to a real college, and those are real students who were sitting in a real college.

One of our interns maybe went there, or maybe somebody's niece went there.

Yeah, it was just like, let's just someone connected to the crew.

Yeah, and we just went into a real college class and shot with real college.

It is very nice over the course of this how many, I mean, obviously, there's some cast in it, but I really did like how it was college students.

Yeah, it had to be.

We had to be on the quad.

Yeah.

And

it's great.

Ja Rastafarianism.

Yeah.

Immediately off the bat, he's on the wrong foot.

He's

He's betraying the entire thing right out of the gate.

For those that don't know it, it's usually Ja Rastafari is in the normal song that wants to say it in it, like a Capleton song.

That's one of the artists.

Or Bob Marley even.

Any live concert you ever heard of any

Rasta reggae artists?

So

your first joke is really just for like nine people you know.

And the entire country of Jamaica.

Yeah.

Okay, so that's fair.

And a lot of people in London.

You are making a joke that you can have zero confidence is going to play with the SNL house.

Yes.

This is kind of like Natalie rap, right?

Where we have so many nice, deep-cut rap references, but for your lay viewer, they can just go, haha, it's that girl who's in Star Wars, but now she's doing a hardcore rap.

And this has the basic joke that I think everyone got, which is the stuff we just discussed, about cultural appropriation when you don't really understand what you're appropriating, and about that guy who's, you know, looks like Ross Trent in your college.

And then there's just other things happening underneath it that are for just us and Rihanna.

Yeah.

Now, wait, did Rihanna ever bring this up to you guys?

We played it for her when we were making this.

So she had not wait, had she seen it?

I think it was when she came back to do the second Shirani, she said that she had friends that had like a rhythm shop in Manhattan somewhere, and that they loved Ross Trent and that she had watched it with them or something.

Oh, that might be.

That's why I'm remembering it not being right away.

By the way, could you ask for a better way for it to come across her radar?

She said what they wanted to do, and it never came about, but I was so fucking hyped to do it, was to have Ross Trent be like the dude who's yelling out over like a mixtape throughout the whole time.

You know what I mean?

Yes, I.

Yeah, exactly.

New Rihanna.

Yeah.

Yes, exactly.

Boom, boom, boom.

New Sizzler.

Yeah.

Over a real mixtape, over a mixtape.

That's what they want to do.

And

that's way funnier.

With actually cool songs, but have me be like, you know, the

Funk Master Flex or whatever.

Yeah, doing that.

That's really funny.

I wish they had asked you to do that.

Yes.

All righty, so let's keep going here with the Established.

All right, we got Roller Skates.

He says roller skates later, but right away, roller skates are a reference to a really famous steel pulse song called Roller Skates.

Yep.

I love roller skates.

That's why he's on roller skates.

Yes.

So buta ding ding ding ding wo

is Barrington Levy.

Yeah.

And he does it in lots of songs, but most famously to us at least, and I would assume to everybody, is a song called Here I Come.

Here I Come, yeah.

Now, I will say that is a perfect example on the Natalie's rap parallel, which is Budda Ding Ding, whoa is just very funny

coming out of Andy's mouth, even if you don't know that that's an actual

famous moment.

Yes, it works for both things.

Yes, Barrington himself would certainly agree.

Okay,

it's kind of funny when he does it, it's awesome.

What are you holding Andy at this point in the song?

What is that?

It's just like a staff, yeah, like a walking staff.

Okay, good.

That's that's standard Ross.

I'm sure there's a name for it in Patchwork that we don't know.

All right, do you want to talk about that background vocals there, Andy?

Background vocals.

We got Casey, Wilson, and Wig doing the background vocals, but the actual recording is Maya Rudolph and my wife, Joanna Newsom.

Really?

Yes.

So we were obviously all living together in the valley, and Maya would come hang out a bunch because her and Paul were close by and Joanna was there.

It was one of the most fun recording sessions, I would say, because

we had done like fake ones and they came in and had to kind of like stay on the rhythm and feel the vibes and do it, do it for reals.

Did you say who Dem here?

Who Dem?

So wait, so Joanna and Maya were the I3, but they were an I2.

They were the I2.

And they

obviously made it sound a lot better than what we had and wrote their own harmonies and sounded fantastic like if you isolate those tracks they actually sounded fucking fantastic and were they having so much fun doing it together yes great absolutely they're buds um so yes who damn is capleton who's a dance hall artist oh wait so before when andy has this idea and we're like how are we ever going to get an authentic sounding reggae oh my god music and we were very fresh to this thing that we're on a label.

So we went, hey, you know, Universal Music Group, which Republic is under, also owns Def Jam and they also own Island, which is the Jamaican music label.

And so we just asked, do you guys have any?

And they sent over, you know, at that time it was still CDs, a CD of unused Sly and Robbie tracks.

Yes.

Sly and Robbie is one of the most famous reggae production musician duos of of all time.

Like full tilt legends.

It's like if you were just dabbling in, I'm going to make a fake rap song.

And they're like, well, here's a bunch of beats by Dr.

Dre.

Do you want to use one of these?

Yes.

It was the craziest thing.

We could not believe it.

It wasn't like we had gotten a bunch of other ones either.

And we were like, what?

The fact that Sly and Robbie made Ross Trent is so funny if you know who Sly and Robbie is.

And you knew right away, and was it exactly what you wanted it to be the first time you put the CD in and listened?

Every track was perfect.

Yeah.

Yes.

But I think think we immediately started vibing to the one that it was, yeah.

But the one thing I'll say is, we added horns, Keeve.

Do you remember?

I

sang, I hummed this the horn part.

Yeah, you went, bram, bram, bramp, bram, bram, bram, bam, yeah, it's basically the Spider-Man,

basically the Spider-Man theme song, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, but I wrote it, yeah, yeah,

uh, okay, we were 16 seconds in, going great, ready

Oh, yeah.

God, that is something.

But who is that by?

The champion sound?

Well, there's Super Beagle, but

I knew Champion Sound

of Super Beagle first because it was on a Smith and Wesson song called Soundboy Burial, which was one of my favorite rap songs in high school.

Right.

It was sampled on that.

I'm already so heartbroken how much more you guys know about rap music than me.

And this is just, everything about this so far has been just heartbreaking because part of what I've, you know, the bargaining I've made in my own head is, well, of course they know more about rap than you, Seth.

It's all they listen to.

It was high school and we would just listen all the time when we'd be rolling around when you had nothing else to do.

We didn't have smartphones, you remember.

This is also what we filled our brain with while you were learning about politics and history and stuff.

Yeah, well, guess what?

I made the wrong choice.

I think it's worked out pretty good.

Yeah, I guess that's true.

Guys, Jorm's calling me.

Should Should I loop him in?

Is he going to be like, come to dinner?

All right, caller, you're on live.

This is the Lonely Island Seth Meyers podcast.

Oh, shit.

Fucking hell.

Oh, hi.

He forgot.

I knew he forgot.

I forgot.

He forgot.

What if I forgot?

It actually timed out good.

You said I forgot and they yelled, he forgot.

And it was like, you could hear him.

Oh, it's even better that he can't hear me.

Slandering.

Well, I just wrapped, but I don't have my recording equipment.

Are you at the house?

Yeah, I'm at home.

And

yeah, we're right in the middle of it.

But

all right, we're going to get back to it.

Okay, goodbye.

Goodbye.

All right.

See you.

My God.

If Jorm's Life is a movie, he'd be like, I pulled off the heist, got away with the murder.

It was the perfect crime.

Now I'm going to walk to the police station and confess.

I mean, the fact that he called and then it couldn't roll with it when he said you're calling into the podcast.

I forgot.

He could have pretended, like, oh, I'm busy, but I'm calling in as contribute.

Yeah.

Like, that was a perfect time to adjust and say, hey, guys,

so proud of you for doing it.

Love you.

No, he is too honest.

He is too honest.

He's too honest/slash forgot.

All right, here we go.

Back to Ross.

Oh, firepon Babylon.

Firepon Babylon is something that is said a lot.

I think that's Capleton again.

I was listening to a lot of Cableton at this time.

Babylon, I mean, I don't have the right, I'm going to say it wrong, but it's like basically the Western system of capitalism and everything, right?

Oh, sorry, yes, I'm skipping steps.

No, but that's fine.

But and so they don't, Rastafarian language,

they don't like that capitalism stuff.

They don't like Babylon.

They don't like Babylon.

So they might say fire upon it.

Okay, here we go.

Rude boy living in the shanty dorms.

My roommate, Nicky.

I mean, Rude Boy, how would you describe it, Rude Boy?

And once again, we are not experts, but Rude Boy is like gangster kids in the streets, right?

Shanty dorms suck so hard.

So he's making his own like.

It's so fucking disrespectful.

He's making his like struggle story instead of being like in the slums of Kingston.

Yeah.

He's this rude boy who lives in these shanty dorms.

He looks like a pretty normy dorm like not nice honestly yeah it's a nice dorm yeah

my roommate nick is an ignorant bald head so that's rachel lynn baldhead baldhead is like a way of describing like a devil white devil basically okay gotcha is how i would describe it it's clearly just a nice guy doing his homework

yeah uh and yes this is rachel lynn who helped us with all our videos brother joe he might have really been the college student still and been the one that got us into oh he might this might have been his actual dorm room.

Yeah.

And then he went on to work in the accounting department at SNL and still does.

Still there.

Shout out Joe.

We love Joe.

So there he is.

And we love Rach.

Saw her at the 50th.

So he's an ignorant ballhead.

Chant down Babylon.

Midterm essays.

Then pop from the chalice.

I be made from a sprite.

Yeah.

Okay.

I mean, Chant Down Babylon is a Bob Marley song.

Everyone knows that.

Yeah.

Great song.

We all made a pipe out of a soda can.

Yep.

Sprite can.

Nice joke.

Yeah, just mixing college stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah, but he calls it a chalice.

Yeah.

That's just what they would do.

Still makes me laugh, guys.

He's admitting that it was just last week this transformation happened.

Bomba clot is like one of the, as far as I understand it, is one of the, you know, it means period blood, and it's one of, it's like motherfucker.

It's one of the more offensive words you can say.

And I, they did not make a censor.

I didn't flag that one.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Seemed pretty psyched when you were telling your parents.

Definitely did not seem to understand how bad that word was.

Yeah, and we're loving these, we're loving casting on these parents.

Yes,

also, I was loving when you were reading the book a week ago, andy, you're reading by the docks, it seems, or you're on like a pier.

Yeah, it's a mother.

It's kind of a

dick-in-a-box location, yeah.

But you have a a moment where you sort of hit the book with the back of your hand as if

everything

just made sense.

Everything finally makes sense.

Yeah.

You're a really

good

kid.

Yes.

So here's a kid.

50 seconds in, we get your catchphrase.

Excuse I.

Excuse I.

Yeah.

Which I also had when I, by the way, I mean, I auditioned for SNL and did Ross Trent in the audition.

Oh, yeah.

Wow.

And it was a totally different version of it because it wasn't a song.

It was like the way that you would have done it if it was a character in like the late 90s where it had a jingle and he was a guy who worked at an office and said, Excuse I.

And

it was these exact same jokes, but just with way less energy and a lot more space in between them.

Oh, hot stepper,

you do so many duties.

Oh hot stepper,

that's one of the songs that crossed over.

Ikamozi.

Yeah, Anikamozi.

Here comes the hot stepper.

That got American radio play.

You would recognize it.

Do you write?

Do you know what I'm talking about, Seth, or no?

No.

If we were fast enough to edit this where we played it right now for you, you would go, oh, I've heard that at like nightclubs.

Yeah.

But do you guys remember like Tom Harkin?

I am so excited for this spa day.

Candles lit, music on, hot tub warm and ready.

And then my chronic hives come back.

Again, in the middle of my spa day, what a wet blanket looks like another spell of itchy red skin.

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And for presidents from Iowa.

Yeah, the hot stepper.

That was the, whenever he came out of the conventions, it played.

Here comes the hot stepper.

Here I am, Tom Hart.

Excuse me, Mr.

Offaz up.

Many duty crimes.

Who hot stepper?

You do so many duty crimes.

Duty is just dirty.

Yeah.

Also, I like you're doing a little just juggling a soccer ball.

It's very.

Yeah, that's the Bob Marley.

Everyone had the Bob Marley playing soccer poster poster in college yeah featured prominently in the film yes i appreciated that

now in my mind nyabingi is a type of drum but i think it also is a sect of the religion and i don't really know i think that's right i knew there was a time i knew this a lot more yeah you're you're asking us 20 years after we did that or how many years so not 20 18 16 a lot all right here we go

and you're fully skylarking all the time andy Skylarking?

I'm trying to remember a good way to put what Skylarking means.

Skylarking is from a song, isn't it?

Yeah.

From multiple songs.

And the visual now is you're just smelling your dreadlocks and even you are having a hard time with the odor.

Yes, that's a moment of him like getting his dreads right and then realizing he's making his head smell bad.

Real dreads do not have a bad odor.

You would have to be very dirty and it would be, it's like almost a stereotype that they're dirty dreads.

Like it could be offensive.

So I want to clarify that we do not think dreads are dirty or smell.

His do.

Ross Trent's due, because he's doing it wrong.

He's dirty.

Yeah, it's white, like white boy dreads traditionally are not well kept and are funky.

Yeah.

I don't even want to make any generalizations.

I'll just say Ross Trent.

I'm sure there are white men out there who have nice dreads.

I'm sure that exists.

But Ross Trent's.

But wait, so Skylarking, obviously, I can't believe I forgot this.

It's Horace Andy, my main man.

Oh, yeah.

Your is a song called Skylarking, but

the phrase Skylarking is

used in many, many songs.

All the time.

Udalukia now.

Oodalukia now is more Capleton.

He has a song called Jaja City, which is one of my favorite dance hall songs ever.

All right, we've got your horns coming to life here that you hummed.

And I mean, we see Simon Rich in the center.

His show is on Broadway right now.

Yes.

And then the other two guys, I'm sad to say, I don't remember their names, but they all both were behind the scenes SNL, like tech guys and, you know, crew guys.

They were all just cast by their collegiate look.

And I love the look that like Ross Trent's horn section is the guys who are just like band guys.

It actually looks small on my screen and I can't see their faces.

Kevin, can you help us out?

Matt Finkelstein worked in talent, still has a big job at NBC.

Oh, yeah, Finkelstein.

Now we've got a very important cameo coming up.

Okay.

Bald heads suck.

Yeah, bald heads suck.

Now you're playing three extras like bongos and then uh Kevin Miller.

Kevin, do you want to hold the duck?

Do you want to just come in and talk about this experience of holding it back?

It was wonderful.

I remember getting wardrobe and being, you know, on for

not even a second, but you guys were looking for bald heads.

And yeah, you're the number one of the top four.

You know, one of the top four.

And

you had your own duck.

That helped.

I did, yes.

Now we got to work with me that day.

This is Ross Trent taking the phrase crazy bald head literally.

There's a song by Bob Marley called Crazy Bald Head.

We're going to chase those crazy bald heads out of town.

He's also the first one that's ever noticed because he's like, have you ever noticed that bald heads suck?

This is an observation I just made.

His only like he has no reason to dislike bald heads other than he keeps hearing it yeah he's just trying to separate himself because uh god forbid someone thinks he's a bald head yeah all right

but that would that would be like a self-deprecating joke we would do me and my bald heads are gonna go get some some some malt liquor and drink oh don't mind me just

but yeah

bunch of bunch of bald heads coming through don't mind us

Well, Bobby Lane is what pays my bills, so uh, I'll keep enjoying the tunes, fellas.

So, there's uh, two of my favorite shots are coming up here.

One, you guys walk up to

what just looks like a giant bong coming out of the street.

I don't even know to this day, you still see it in New York, what it is.

Yeah, what's the purpose of that?

It's like it's like a thing you put over a manhole cover, I guess, when the earth is leaking.

If you know there's going to be like, yeah, an exorbitant amount of steam.

Yeah, so it's just not to have the steam pouring out, I guess.

It's from the subway.

Yeah, it's from the subway, but it's a giant orange cone

that Ross Trent goes over and it looks like he takes a bong hit off it.

Excuse I for my skanking.

So amazing.

That you just got lucky.

You guys saw it.

And we're like, it's a giant bong in the middle of New York Street.

Go over and smoke it.

And it just is incredible.

How did I blow out smoke?

It was just so cold.

No, you, you have a, you lit something.

Look.

You definitely, you smoke something.

Wow.

Well, anyway, yeah, we were walking down the street and saw, I think we were driving past and you were like, stop, stop the fucking car.

And then the next time we see Rouse Trent, he is behind the counter of a cold stone creamery, an actual cold stone creamery,

which is a wonderful place to find out he's toiling part-time.

Dude, this is back when they would just, you could just, we were so low rent.

You could walk into a cold stone creamery and be like, hey, can I get behind the counter for a second?

It is a real cold stone.

Wait, there's really, this was not prearranged.

You just got behind the cold stone creamery like that?

I don't know if anyone called ahead, but we definitely just.

If it was, it was like Nick Malardi or Dina just calling and being like, hey, can we come by today?

It was like, they would have had no warning.

Maybe it was pre-arranged, and he was like, Oh, yeah, the one on this one said we can go back there.

Maybe, maybe it was.

We'd have to ask them.

Let's ask them for a voice.

That's like when people are like, You know, before 9-11, you could just walk on a plane.

Like, that's how this feels now.

The idea that you could just walk into a cold stone creamery and shoot something for us.

You know what?

Let's, let's, uh,

let's make sure Dina listens and she'll have the receipts on that.

Yeah, great.

But this is maybe my favorite line in the song.

Yeah, you toil.

Me toil part-time at Jock Coldstone Creeby.

Just combining the most

mundane.

Every single part of it is wrong.

Yeah.

It makes me happy.

Dub is like a

instrumental style of reggae.

Again,

somebody that listens to this is going to know more about reggae and correct us.

But I know when you buy like a dub plate, like essentially a lot of times the people that make rhythms, which are their beats, will actually let many different reggae artists do a song on the same rhythm so you might hear 10 different songs that all the exact same music and then one might become a hit but you could do a whole dj set for 30 minutes where the music never changes just different artists come on and do their song on top of it and then dub style is basically those

you know, like instrumentals and you can buy whole albums that you've liked.

And now it's in dub style.

And sometimes they will put in very quietly the lyrics that used to be there or just like the ad-lib hypes.

So you might be listening to a song you've known, and then every four bars it just goes like wah, wah, wah, like an echo of the last syllable.

And then there's people that just made whole albums of just vibe albums that were like King Tubby was like probably the most famous one to us at least, where you would just buy whole albums and it's just the music with very little lyrics.

I feel like Lee Scratch Perry did a lot of dub.

Yep.

But yeah,

it's like real stony stuff where it's a lot of like ramp, ramp, ramp, wham, blamp, whamp, echo on everything.

Roller skates again.

Now, a DVD of cooler runnings is one of two things that Joast pitched.

Great.

And here's what happened.

We wrote the song in the summer when we were making our album.

And then we started putting it together to do the video at SNL.

And we ourselves said this could use a few more SNL audience-friendly jokes.

And maybe even took it to the table, or maybe just played it for Joast and a few people.

And they pitched us a few ideas.

One of the things he pitched us was a DVD of Cool Runnings, which we were like, yes, perfect.

Something that everyone watching will know what it is.

And it's also incredibly off-base.

So it fits the character.

Did we have a different joke there?

We must have something there.

We did.

I don't remember what it was, though.

And then

we'll talk about murder she wrote in a second, but the other one is the biggest laugh in the audience by far, which is when Ross Trent walks past the real dreads and lowers his voice for

Bike Path of Righteousness.

And that was the other thing Joe pitched.

And I remember after Daird going up to him and being like, Thank you.

That was such a great pitch.

And him going, oh, yeah.

It's like the linchpin of the entire video.

It's the moment the whole point of the whole thing comes across to everybody.

Yeah.

Which is even

Trent is incredibly obtuse, but even he knows not to be full Rasta in front of those dudes.

Yes.

He knows.

Because he's walking down the screen.

And so obviously, yeah, when you recorded in the summer, you didn't have a moment.

It would have made no sense to have you just mumble.

No, the song on Monday of this week, it went, it was loud.

Right, bike, path of righteousness.

Yeah.

Please guide me upon your bike path of righteousness.

And then I think it still is that on the album, right?

Or no, did we go with the like lower version?

Oh, I don't know.

That's a good question.

I know we debated that.

And what is it?

It's just like four or five actual

links.

Yeah, here, well, let's get to them real quick.

Murder She Wrote.

Shakademus and Pliers have a very famous song called Murder She Wrote.

Oh, yeah.

You know that one, Seth.

You would know.

I do.

I do know.

Yeah.

You actually do.

Yeah.

There's a bunch of these dance hall ones that you have heard in your nightclub days where we do a dance hall set.

Um, so Seth, I was gonna say, Will you sing Murder She Wrote real quick?

I do feel like I remember it, but I don't feel like I'll be able to sing it.

I do remember uh, Jessica was on like a bike, I feel like it was instrumental, and she was going through a little New England town where all the murders happened.

Oh, okay.

Are you talking about the theme song to Murder She Wrote?

Yeah, I like that you said Jessica, that's right.

Murder, she wrote,

how did it go?

That's close, Murder She Wrote.

Murder she wrote.

No, I wasn't.

That's it.

I do.

I do remember that song.

Yeah.

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Yaga, yaga, yaga, yow!

Yaga, yaga, Yaga Yow.

Yeah, who's Yaga Yaga Yaga Yao?

Is that Anthony B?

I think that might be Anthony B.

Yeah, it's Dance Hall for sure.

It could be Beanie Man, but I think it's Anthony B.

Again, our listeners will clearly put it all, correct me, and let me know.

Yeah, it's Anthony B.

Are you there, Ja?

It's Miros.

We got that whole class

to say, are you there, Jaw?

It's me, Ross Trent.

It was definitely Rachel's brothers class.

I can't believe that.

I don't know where they all are now, but thank you.

It was perfect.

And, of course, that's like a famous reggae

book, Are You There?

It's Judy Boom, Margaret, by Judy Bloom.

But again, that is something Ross Trent would have in his wheelhouse.

Yeah, he definitely knows that book.

That's a reference for him.

Hoping his boobs come in, you know?

There were about five seconds where we debated calling the song, Are You There, Ja, it's me, Ross Trent.

And then we were like, What are you talking about?

It's way too long.

Oh, new location for our horn section.

Yeah, we went to the real library and played and fake the horns.

I wonder what college this was.

It's somewhere in Manhattan.

It's very fun to see these

three.

I mean, I say would love these three nerds

rocking it out.

Well, leaning into that, leaning into being nerdy.

Yeah, they know what they're doing.

please guide me wonder good cut the rest of my

all right so we just watched you know him walking past six uh real jamaican rastafares and nick malardi who worked with dina and would help out on the shorts

when we were like hey how can we find people that are not background actors who then we dress up and it's going to look like a fake snl version how do we and he was like oh no problem and i forget if he lived in the bronx or brooklyn he's like there's a store right by me.

And there's always a bunch of them hanging out.

I go there sometimes.

I forget what he said.

He bought there.

He, he knew exactly where to go.

And he went there.

I don't know what conversation they had, but he immediately had six real Rastas who were super nice.

And we told them what the bit was.

And they're like, yeah, but they had the thickest.

I can't.

I'm not even going to pretend to be able to do it.

The thickest true Jamaican accents and were super down for it and thought it was funny and did it perfect.

I remember them being like, yeah, we're cool.

It's funny.

But then after we did the first take of it, them really laughing because they like fully understood that

they were like, we know this guy.

Yeah.

It was a little bit nerve-wracking and embarrassing on our end because it was happening in real life.

And here they are.

And we're like, we're going to be walking by and playing this reggae song and he's going to do this.

And there's.

No, they were great.

Yeah.

And they were wonderful.

And it was, yeah.

Props to Nick.

Stanahoy.

Stanahoy, I think, is Michael Rose from Black Uhuru.

Yeah, I think that's right.

Yeah, I can't remember at this time exactly, but that's my memory of it.

Oh, fuck.

Because I also almost picture Barreton Levy doing it in Black Roses, but no.

Quick thing, in the most played section of the song, it is on YouTube.

It is definitely you walking by the

real.

The Ross.

The real McCoys.

The real Ross dudes.

And this is from Kevin Maniller.

I texted Dina, and she said Joe Lynn got permission to shoot in his classroom and in his doorroom, Fordham University.

There you go.

And shout out to Joe.

And you guys just rolled up to

you just rolled up on

Coldstone in Times Square and asked if you could shoot and that you guys were real cowboys.

There we go.

It's an important line in the song, but I guess we had our backup plan, which is that you would just stand on the street and they can't stop us on the sidewalk.

And you were just going to point out.

Yeah, it was going to be a Magnolia sit.

It was going to work no matter what.

But the fact that we got to just go behind because it was a bunch of teenagers working there, they're like, sure.

Then

that's the nice thing about the Times.

The Times Square Coldstone does not have the head of corporate

on site.

I wonder if we got a shot of me outside of Coldstone first, Keeve.

And probably

as our backup.

Yeah.

Red Stripe is, of course, Jamaican beer, just doing another, that's another cool runnings, basically.

And fussing and fighting is a song.

Shaba, Shaba ranks.

He's just a famous artist.

Now you're on the Judy Bloom book.

It's a nice, made it a callback, a visual callback to a joke from a little while ago.

And so this line is two songs.

We're just smushing them all together at the end here of all stuff we love.

Night Nurse is a song by Gregory Isaacs that we love.

Plant the corn is a Anthony B song.

I think, is it called Plant the Corner or is it called Raid the Barn?

But nobody want to plant the corn, everybody want to raid the barn.

And that's a fucking great song.

It's a great song.

No one wants to do the work, but they all want to eat the food, you know?

Yours kind of makes it sexual that your nice nurse, your night nurse never wants to plant the corn.

It's just, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

He's just quoting stuff, which is also admittedly what we were kind of doing.

Skittly Skittly Woe back to Barrington Levy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Skittly woe is Barrington Levy.

I mean,

there's a hint of Eka Mouse throughout the song, but no like overt reference in that same way.

But if you agree, if you thought Eka Mouse, you're not off.

I think if there was some yellow man like zunga, zunga, zoomga, zang, that we were debating all the time and just couldn't find a place to put it in.

Yeah.

Like, like all the people that did good scatty nonsense stuff.

So there you have it.

All right.

That was it.

I think we've been waiting however many years it's been

to

tell people what was actually in it.

I'm sure on genius, rapgenius.com or whatever, I'm sure they have some of that.

Yes.

It is a very ship-in-a-bottle construction.

It's a very funny idea.

It's very nice of you to share with us all.

It is a real credit to your knowledge of the genre.

I know you love when I say stuff like that.

It makes us so happy.

Yorma just came here.

He comes to your house.

Yes.

Hi, guys.

Hi, bud.

What's up, Jorm?

Well, that was an abrupt ending.

Hi, everybody.

This is Seth.

And what I'm doing right now is called a post-record, where days after, I return to the podcast studio to leave some final thoughts.

We got a little off the rails at the end of this episode.

Basically, what happened is

Yorm realized he had missed the podcast and then drove over to Akiva's house.

He then came into Akiva's house and Andy and I, needless to say, were relentlessly busting on him for that choice, but he couldn't hear us because he didn't have headphones in.

So Akiva would have to hear our burns and then repeat them to Yorma.

The reality is, it was a lot of fun.

It was happening, but it did not make for a very good podcast.

It was an abrupt end.

So I'm here to tell you that, yes, we did not get to any of the John Hamm episode, which is an golden episode from that era.

So we're going to talk about that in our next episode.

It's going to be a standalone episode about everything else in that marvelous 90 Minutes of Television.

We did not discuss if Ross Trent was a criterion episode.

We'll get to that as well.

But you know what?

Sound off in the comments.

Why not do that as well?

Thank you, everybody.

We love you too.

See you soon.

Next week, why not?