The Curse

Speaker 1 Hey, Seth, I know that this isn't the right time to bring this up, but will you actually come pick me up from the vasectomy when I get one?

Speaker 3 Like, I just want to said in the middle of this isn't the right time to bring it up?

Speaker 4 I feel like this is the only place it's ever discussed.

Speaker 5 It feels like exactly the right time.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I mean, ideally, we're not having a second conversation about this.

Speaker 9 After this, listen, get it out of the way, I guess.

Speaker 11 Well, yeah, I just want to wrap it up.

Speaker 1 I just want to put a you know, button on it and fucking be done with it. Like, can you do it?

Speaker 8 Yeah, but like, when are you going to do it?

Speaker 12 I'll do it whenever is like good for you.

Speaker 8 Well, I just, my problem is, did it get harder? Because now I have to like carry you to the car or something. His penis?

Speaker 9 I was going to say, I don't think it affects that.

Speaker 1 That did, it did seem like we were talking about my penis.

Speaker 4 I mean, historically, no.

Speaker 15 I'll figure it out with Kevin.

Speaker 1 I'll do it on and off week, or maybe that's worse, but we'll figure it out.

Speaker 4 So, Jarm, you've had a bad accident in your late 40s. Does it get harder?

Speaker 18 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 19 All right, we're off and running.

Speaker 20 John Hamm is here.

Speaker 21 A lot more VAZ talk than I was expecting.

Speaker 23 Oh, man.

Speaker 8 Like, that there's just any at all?

Speaker 1 Well, hey, John, if you're in town, you can come too.

Speaker 18 Fine. I'm, you know,

Speaker 21 I've had to enlist a lot of

Speaker 27 very unwilling participants to pick me up after my colonoscopies.

Speaker 4 No, John, you always say you got to give the vast a lot of deference, right?

Speaker 10 You're always paying deference to the vaz.

Speaker 22 I give mad deference to the vast.

Speaker 4 I mean, what's the difference between the difference?

Speaker 3 Is this something, Seth?

Speaker 13 There's a vast difference between the difference and the difference.

Speaker 30 Once it's cut, there's a difference.

Speaker 4 We got to be differential when it comes to the match.

Speaker 8 I'm just very excited about just a couple days into the future when Keeve is like, so this is what it turns into?

Speaker 6 Fuck him.

Speaker 31 You know what?

Speaker 15 Fuck him.

Speaker 23 Just a wonderful shit show.

Speaker 15 The lonely Ivan and Seth Meyers podcast show.

Speaker 8 So Akiva couldn't be here today, but he said, please replace me with what he called a Keeve type.

Speaker 13 And then he gave us a list.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then top of the list.

Speaker 13 John Hamm was the only name on the list.

Speaker 34 John Ham.

Speaker 35 A selection of one.

Speaker 8 Welcome, John Hamm.

Speaker 36 Hi, guys.

Speaker 8 This is very exciting. We are talking about John Hamm.
This is your second time hosting, but it's your first short.

Speaker 37 And it is. Yes, my first longtime listener, first time attendee.

Speaker 39 Yes.

Speaker 40 Damn

Speaker 23 at the peak.

Speaker 8 You are a member of Quaid Army in good standing.

Speaker 18 I think we all know that.

Speaker 5 Hope.

Speaker 1 Very, very much. We get more text from this guy than most Quaid Army.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 F-O-T-S, friend of the show.

Speaker 38 I do check in quite a bit.

Speaker 27 I might have been the first guy to give you my own very solid nickname, which we may or may not want to share.

Speaker 44 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 34 Probably not. Probably not.

Speaker 4 Should we do a classic thing where we say it and then Seth has them cut it out and everyone gets mad at him?

Speaker 5 Yeah, but then we

Speaker 10 like you did last time? Yeah.

Speaker 45 What the f?

Speaker 37 Maybe hear the reaction.

Speaker 8 Just say it. Say what it is.

Speaker 47 Well, I dubbed this group.

Speaker 26 Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 48 Bleep it.

Speaker 40 Perfect.

Speaker 42 A lot of extra letters.

Speaker 3 Good way.

Speaker 1 It's always good to start the show with something that they can't hear.

Speaker 8 John, I don't know if this is your memory, but your first episode was an exceptionally good first episode for anybody hosting. And yet, I think this is better.

Speaker 4 I was looking at that rundown, Seth Lee, and I was like, this was a banger show.

Speaker 8 This is peak golden era.

Speaker 50 I mean, I'm not going to, yeah, not to toot my own horn, but my own saxophone.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Foreshadowing.

Speaker 21 Well, you you know that's another foreshadowing is also another word for uh a vasectomy vasectomy i was gonna say thank you for scroterie be there be square sess um yeah the the reason why the first one stood out so so significantly to me foreshadowing is when you're um interning at a bris I was gonna say, yeah, the vasectomy, you have to be uncircumcised.

Speaker 22 Let me just hang out here by you, rabbi.

Speaker 6 Sorry.

Speaker 10 I just want to foreshadow a little.

Speaker 46 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 I was foreshadowing. I was just seeing how it's done.

Speaker 56 It's amazing. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 You got to get a certain number of hours. It's like your pilot's license.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 47 Everybody has a first time.

Speaker 1 First day at school. Have you guys been to one of those? Brisk school.

Speaker 10 Have I been to a bunch of.

Speaker 1 How many Brises have you guys been to? Yeah, I've been to one. I've been to two.

Speaker 40 Two.

Speaker 26 Oh, and two boys.

Speaker 44 I think I must have had one performed on me, although they probably didn't call it a Brist.

Speaker 50 Right.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. I definitely attended my own.

Speaker 58 Oh, that's a good one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the best one to attend.

Speaker 37 But obviously, the reason it was so, it stood out to me so much was because Polar had her baby

Speaker 27 the first time I hosted. So that was its own kind of very special episode.

Speaker 13 And then what you famously referred to as Stealing Your Thunder.

Speaker 25 Very, very clearly.

Speaker 15 Yeah, I'm very vocal about that.

Speaker 22 Got an extra update piece out of it. Elizabeth Moss had to come in.

Speaker 60 They cut by Bronx Beat.

Speaker 39 There's a lot going on there.

Speaker 40 The hell.

Speaker 10 The hail.

Speaker 53 Polar's such a shitstat. The hail.
Defend yourself, Polar.

Speaker 23 The hail.

Speaker 13 I remember you loudly saying to Lauren, like, they'd still do Bronx Beat if Betty was sick. Yeah.
And you just thought it should have been a one-woman Bronx beat.

Speaker 27 It's a one-on-one.

Speaker 55 Just make it a one-on-one.

Speaker 13 Oh, she couldn't couldn't be here. But yeah, also, I mean, again, your first show is great.
It's a Vincent Price. It's a Jeff Montgomery.
It's a A-Holes.

Speaker 13 So like you would think, based on that, tough to beat.

Speaker 37 Yeah, we had some home runs on the first one for sure. But as you said, man, so many home run hitters in the cast.

Speaker 22 I just, anything that was coming back was clearly something that already worked not only with the audience, but you could kind of plug and play with people that were really having fun with it.

Speaker 13 So for example, yeah, Bronx Beat being one of them, unfortunately, I didn't get a chance chance to do i think they did it later with gym hole maybe i can't remember yeah jake did one yeah somebody else came back and did that one but yeah i mean a hole is like it was so it was so great it was just so great there was just such a deep bench for people to roll through and hit the ball out of the park but like i look through this i feel like across the board almost everybody has a perfect sort of representation of a what their best version of a sketch is in this show wait give some examples are you you're like so all right so wig off the top you have wig doing don't make me sing which is literally an all-time great sketch that I have rewatched recently.

Speaker 13 Yeah, so have I, independent of this podcast. Yep, me too.

Speaker 4 I do still quote it. Me too.

Speaker 13 I mean, the premise of Don't Make Me Sing is it's a, you know, sort of like roaring 20s type dinner party. Everybody's asking John to play piano.

Speaker 13 And then just sort of from the back of the room, Wig says, don't make me sing.

Speaker 13 And it's this really, the game is very simple, which is she keeps saying, don't make me sing, even though no one has asked her. No one has asked you, and it works really well.

Speaker 5 Everybody's on board.

Speaker 55 Do you want to sing?

Speaker 6 No, I couldn't possibly.

Speaker 62 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 5 Everyone's making me. Everyone's making me.

Speaker 63 Don't make me sing.

Speaker 13 And they, uh, then you, I can't remember what it is. Like, somebody says, can you play Rhapsody in Blue? And she goes, old Bill Bailey.
So she very much only knows how to sing old Bill Bailey.

Speaker 13 Fortunately, you, as her accompanimist, does know how to play it.

Speaker 13 And then the game, which again, it was a fun enough game that she was like, don't make me sing, is that she's also also terrible at singing she won't she keeps no rhythm and can't come in on she keeps missing the in yes and it's a real and then gets frustrated and takes it out on everybody else because they because they ruined it you're making me sing i feel like a lot of wig characters are like unofficially and some officially are like a person's bummer aunt yeah for sure surprise yeah this one is the fun thing it's a bummer aunt move but she has this wonderful voice don't make me sing

Speaker 13 and And then was that first up? That was early. I think that was the first sketch out of

Speaker 13 the monologue.

Speaker 4 Was it the first Don't Make Me Sing?

Speaker 10 I think it was the only.

Speaker 44 Well, then it was. It was a one and done.

Speaker 25 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 13 So technically, you were right.

Speaker 1 But time for me to spike the football.

Speaker 13 There's a great moment where she's having trouble coming in. And

Speaker 66 sing.

Speaker 67 Sing on the one and the one.

Speaker 64 You need a signal?

Speaker 13 Just nod when you need me to miss it.

Speaker 67 Oh, hello.

Speaker 68 You missed it.

Speaker 69 She immediately forgets the nod. She thinks you're like flirting with her.

Speaker 13 Also then everybody's mad at finally they just ask you to play, you know,

Speaker 22 some freeform jazz, I believe.

Speaker 13 And then immediately, do you remember what she says when you start playing freeform jazz?

Speaker 27 Oh, don't make me dance.

Speaker 4 Yeah, don't make me dance.

Speaker 30 An escalation.

Speaker 1 And were you a part of the writing process with this one for with Sublette Anderson? Do you remember?

Speaker 71 No.

Speaker 59 So coming back the second time, I was, first of all, thrilled.

Speaker 1 And so cocky, right? Just fucking like.

Speaker 22 I will say I was definitely not cocky, but I definitely felt like I was very cognizant of what was to be expected, much more so from the first time, which was utterly unaware.

Speaker 22 And so I was more excited than nervous.

Speaker 22 So I was stoked because, again, by this point, I kind of knew almost everybody.

Speaker 27 I knew some people Conan the first time, but I knew most of you guys much more after.

Speaker 22 this was almost a year later. Yeah, because I did the Halloween episode and this was like Valentine's Day or something like that.

Speaker 1 You also knew us from like stopping by the show, though.

Speaker 10 I felt like there was this real crossover between mad men and oh, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 43 And I remember coming in to see you guys in your office.

Speaker 46 I remember it was just so cold and you guys were all sick.

Speaker 30 Well, yeah.

Speaker 59 And this is like a pre-COVID idea of people being sick and it's like, let's just hang out in a closed room together, guys, because we're all super sick.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 38 And you guys being really tired and really sick.

Speaker 22 And like, we have this one idea because I didn't get to do the short the first time I hosted.

Speaker 59 It was Raz Trent.

Speaker 23 And

Speaker 27 you guys were like, we have this one idea.

Speaker 59 It's like the Kool-Aid man, but you're Tim Capelli from The Lost Boys.

Speaker 51 And I was like, that's really funny.

Speaker 22 You're never going to do that, but I'll do it if you guys want.

Speaker 51 Ha ha.

Speaker 59 See you never because you're never going to do it.

Speaker 20 And then literally like two days later, you're like, well, here's the sax.

Speaker 40 And I was like, uh-oh, here's your outfit.

Speaker 26 All right, wait.

Speaker 13 So first of all, I do want to say it's January 30th. So you host in October of 08.
Now this is January 30th of 2010. So it's been about 16 months.
Okay.

Speaker 13 But that is, when I think about a January 30th show, that is where everybody is sick.

Speaker 26 100%.

Speaker 13 A disaster time to come through and host the show.

Speaker 10 It was so cold.

Speaker 13 So if we're going to get into the short, talk about this Lost Boys character, which is not like the most iconic character, but like Yorm and Andy, like, was this a thing that you talked about?

Speaker 28 Let me me ask a question.

Speaker 1 It is for certain people, I feel like.

Speaker 4 Let me ask some prelim questions. I know Keeve wasn't there.
Oh my God.

Speaker 56 John has a picture of him framed on his wall.

Speaker 13 Whoa, wait, is it from

Speaker 38 the guy?

Speaker 25 Oh my God.

Speaker 53 And it says, the inscription says, thank you for giving me a second career.

Speaker 4 Oh my God. What a dream.

Speaker 1 That's wonderful. That's like why you do art, you know?

Speaker 38 One of the key grips that I worked with on a movie was his cousin.

Speaker 18 And he said, i've got to get i've got to give you this picture that my cousin promised i if i ever met you i would give you a picture and he did i don't use this phrase often but that fucking rocks

Speaker 1 well andy why don't you explain what the reference is a little well First off, Keith was not here this week.

Speaker 10 Were you there?

Speaker 4 I don't know if I was either because I don't think you were because this is my recollection.

Speaker 4 You are the one who showed this to me. I had seen Lost Boys when I was a kid.

Speaker 4 But shockingly, one of the things I didn't remember vividly was Tim shredding on Sacks in the concert scene. So you were obsessed with it.

Speaker 29 I want to give it-it's a little bit blinking, you miss it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I want to give you the credit for bringing it to my attention.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it's blinking, you miss it. You guys got to watch Lost Boys.

Speaker 38 I mean, if you blink, it's really like if you blink, like you blink for like three or four seconds.

Speaker 40 Super slow remote blink.

Speaker 23 He's rocking out.

Speaker 13 So I just want to, I'm going to briefly just read the Tim Capello Wikipedia overview. Tim Capello, also credited as Timmy Capello, is an American multi-instrumentalist composer and vocalist.

Speaker 13 He is primarily known for his saxophone work supporting Tina Turner in the 80s and 90s, as well as for his musical performance in the 1987 vampire film, The Lost Boys.

Speaker 52 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 You can definitely tell it's a famous person because you're like, why would you stay on this as long as you are in this particular film? Because it's not really about a saxophonist.

Speaker 42 It's not remotely about a saxophonist.

Speaker 75 You're right.

Speaker 10 you're right

Speaker 13 you when you walked out of lost boys yorm you were like i thought the balance between vampire and that saxophone guy was good yeah i felt like it was mostly not about that was probably the best vampire saxophone movie i ever saw

Speaker 1 i can't remember who was more obsessed with it was it akiva or like because like you know we all live together and i feel like these were things that got these were like early viral moments from things you know i mean like that without the internet that didn't actually happen i i could i can see that like that's definitely something that you're like this is way way too long of a cutaway to the grinding leather clad crotch shirtless crotch yeah of this dude wailing on a sax

Speaker 1 in a concert scene yeah like thrusting and busting and really really thrusting and and gyrating yeah and and oiled up and looking fucking selling it properly well but i also feel like in a teen witch kind of way like the the rap scene from teen witch like those are also things that kee got pretty obsessed with as well so I'm not sure what, like,

Speaker 4 well, Teen Witch was me because I was

Speaker 4 you. It was on cable.

Speaker 4 One of the cable channels I had growing up, Teen Witch was on over and over, and me and my sister were on the same time.

Speaker 59 I feel like that's what kind of constituted virality in that certain time in the late 90s was if it was on Nickelodeon or some cable channel that you had on heavy rotation, then you were going to pick out the important parts.

Speaker 46 Yes.

Speaker 4 Me and my sister would do top that with each other.

Speaker 1 Yeah, fair enough. And if you were particularly sarcastic kids watching these things, you'd be be like oh my god what was that what was that Zach supposed

Speaker 4 I mean especially growing up in the bay and being super into rap and being like what is this

Speaker 13 but noticing Tim Capello in Lost Boys like this was an early way to signal people that you sort of had like comedy nerd cred like that you knew the reference

Speaker 22 I had certainly never heard heard of it I knew Lost Boys, but it did not stand out to me because I had only seen it a few times.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and I only knew it because Jorm had showed it to us and we were like, that's fucking incredible.

Speaker 36 Okay.

Speaker 43 But to marry that with the Kool-Aid Man and then slather it with a Stephen King thinner story.

Speaker 49 Yes.

Speaker 4 Well, it was actually threefold because the structure of it is based on an old, I want to say, Twilight Zone episode.

Speaker 22 Sounds right.

Speaker 1 Ooh, classy. That sounds classy, bro.
Way better.

Speaker 4 Which is a guy, I forget the actual real thing. It's basically like a guy.
This might have been a 90s Twilight Zone reboot or something.

Speaker 5 That's classy.

Speaker 4 The Hittis and the Tittis. Someone out there is definitely going to know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 49 It's ringing a bell for me.

Speaker 4 Where a guy

Speaker 4 is like visited by a gargoyle or something.

Speaker 4 There's like a murder. He accidentally kills someone and a gargoyle from his building turns real and tells him he'll get away with it.

Speaker 13 It's a movie, and that stars Ray Don Chong, so I can look it up.

Speaker 79 No, it was in the Twilight Zoom Zone episode.

Speaker 13 No, no, no. I know what it is.
Hold on. Keep going.

Speaker 30 I'm pretty sure that Andy's right now.

Speaker 80 Quest for fire?

Speaker 67 Keep going.

Speaker 15 Keep going.

Speaker 4 Oh, it might be in the Twilight Zone movie and it's one of a bunch of vignettes. I don't know.

Speaker 20 Yes. All right.

Speaker 27 While you guys Google, I'm going to bring in one more bizarre coincidence that has to do with Tim Capello.

Speaker 39 So at the time, I had my first dog, and over the course of my dog's life, lovely dog, lived for me for 15 years, not to bring up dead dogs, but my dog had to be put down and

Speaker 81 peer, peer, peer, peer, peer.

Speaker 76 my dog, Cora.

Speaker 60 Actually, we didn't have to put her down.

Speaker 39 She ended up dying in her sleep, but at a certain point, we had to, you know, kind of wrap her up and take her away to get cremated and all the other stuff.

Speaker 60 So, we had an end-of-life kind of veterinarian that had been with her and given her all this like acupuncture and stuff over the course of

Speaker 51 her later part of her life.

Speaker 42 While this woman is taking my dog, who passed away peacefully in the night,

Speaker 39 wrapping her up kind of and putting her in a way to take away to the place she goes hey you know what I used to be a roadie for Tim Capello

Speaker 69 wow

Speaker 10 I was like wait what

Speaker 44 she goes yeah I was in my in my previous career I was like a I was like a roadie for

Speaker 27 Tina Turner and Journey and all these guys I'd be on the road with them and Timmy Capello was one of the guys that he's really nice guy anyway you know and I'm like there's a lot of emotions going on in my head right now but nostalgia wasn't, I didn't think it was going to be one of them.

Speaker 81 You're like, you're shells-shocked.

Speaker 13 Hey, you sad about your dog? You want to think about something fun?

Speaker 10 How about this?

Speaker 40 All right.

Speaker 13 I'm right.

Speaker 13 It was Tales from the Dark Side, the movie.

Speaker 26 Really? Yes.

Speaker 49 I do remember that. I knew that was ringing.

Speaker 13 And I went to see this on a date, and it's a lover's vow. It was a three-vignette stories.

Speaker 41 Yeah.

Speaker 13 Preston is a struggling artist. He lives in a studio with a skylight through which a large stone gargoyle on a neighboring building peers down.
Preston's A.

Speaker 13 Nicole is asking to to meet him at a bar a few blocks away.

Speaker 13 Along the way, Preston stops to relieve himself at a back alley when his friend sees and shoots at a gargoyle monster. The creature attacks, severing his hand and then decapitating him.

Speaker 13 Terrified, Preston tries to run away, but the creature corners him and speaks, agreeing to spare his life if he swears never to reveal what he's seen.

Speaker 40 Right, yes.

Speaker 4 And then his life goes on as normal. He meets a woman, he falls in love, he has kids, and then he fucks up at the end and tells her what he saw.

Speaker 28 And she goes, no!

Speaker 4 And like her skin and stuff falls off, and she's the gargoyle.

Speaker 29 And then you pan over, and their two kids are little gargoyle kids.

Speaker 4 It's so fucking heavy and scary. Anyway, this is not one for one with that, but this and like other Twilight Zone-y things, this structure of someone's an asshole, they get a curse put on them.

Speaker 4 They're like, yeah, right. And then it starts coming to pass.

Speaker 4 And so the idea here was, what if that curse was the saxophone guy from Lost Boys busting through the wall like the Kool-Aid man every time you're a piece of shit.

Speaker 13 I mean, it's really fascinating to eventually get to the place where we realize these three disparate threads.

Speaker 13 Because as the shorts go, this one does have like the most story structure and to be honest, like a very terrifying ending.

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Speaker 4 Okay, so it's much longer than anyone I think we ever did before or after.

Speaker 29 But that said, it does get to the punch pretty quick.

Speaker 14 Again,

Speaker 46 you guys are so efficient.

Speaker 10 Well, here's the thing, though.

Speaker 1 Like, let's give credit where credit's due here. Like, because this is predominantly Kreisel and Andy, because I don't remember this at all either.

Speaker 1 And that was all, and I'm looking at the date of this, and I'm like, oh, we were deep in the edit of McGruber, which was down the street at the Brill building, which is another like SNL office.

Speaker 43 Yeah, I remember it was the first time I met Kreisel.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think it was just me and Jonathan. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So it's, you know, I mean, I know Keeve has his own thoughts on this short as well that we sent in a voice note.

Speaker 4 I haven't, but I haven't listened to his voice note. I also will say I have not watched The Curse, I don't think, since it aired.

Speaker 1 I'm very excited to watch this one with you, Turkey.

Speaker 13 Oh, so you haven't even watched it to get ready for this.

Speaker 4 No, I intentionally didn't because I want to come in like truly having a fresh look at it.

Speaker 40 Yeah, I'm very

Speaker 13 excited.

Speaker 1 Did you watch it, Ham?

Speaker 21 Uh, I've seen it, yeah, on multiple occasions.

Speaker 1 I haven't watched it specifically for this, but I've seen it probably in the last six months because you have it like geared up and like ready to show to people, right?

Speaker 1 Anytime you do a new job, you're like, oh,

Speaker 30 every time I see it, it makes me laugh.

Speaker 13 Also, yeah, look, old structure, structure myers i mean i love how the pieces fit together in this thing you like that oh i remember when it ended having a real my god they've done it

Speaker 13 well let's get to let's get to the ending after we watch because i do want to talk about how that felt uh also one comment i feel like i have to read uh after yorm established uh that he and keeve weren't there And of course, they were not there for last week's short as well, Laser Cats 5.

Speaker 13 One of the Quate Army wrote in, I thought you guys might be interested in how many times Keever

Speaker 13 mentioned how many times they weren't there this week. So I listened to the pod twice and double-checked my work.
They each said it one million times.

Speaker 26 I really like our fans.

Speaker 13 And I do think, I just want Kwait Army to know, I think one of the reasons that Jorm and Keeve point out why they weren't there is to get out of the way of any credit they might catch. Yes.

Speaker 13 They're actually doing it for the most noble reason. It comes from.

Speaker 21 That's how it feels to me.

Speaker 13 Yes, it comes from a place of sort of an obscene way.

Speaker 23 But,

Speaker 1 but when you hear keeves voice note which i did listen to he's got some critiques

Speaker 4 oh yeah and he had them i don't know if that's he had them on sunday yes to me and i distinctly remember yes watching this one and not having nearly the i'll be curious to see what he said his voice note it's one of the only times ever with keeper i was like come on man yeah seriously like

Speaker 10 he was he was picking he was picking some nits really wasn't there you know

Speaker 13 Oh, very interesting. All right.

Speaker 13 Should I share screen and you guys tell me when to stop?

Speaker 29 Yes, please, Sad.

Speaker 27 They also have the audience response sometimes in the audio of these, right?

Speaker 44 Because I remember it playing really hot.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we'll be hearing that. So we're going to put that theory to the test, Hammer.

Speaker 1 Good music so far.

Speaker 84 I immediately like the music.

Speaker 66 Uh-huh.

Speaker 82 Yeah.

Speaker 75 No, I hear what you're saying, Bradley.

Speaker 82 But if she wants to play in the big league, she's going to have to get her hands dirty.

Speaker 75 You break the sacred talisman.

Speaker 89 Maybe you shouldn't have left it lying in the street.

Speaker 75 You pay me.

Speaker 85 Kiss my ass.

Speaker 67 Did you guys write that?

Speaker 85 I curse you. Nice try, buddy.

Speaker 85 Anyways.

Speaker 18 Alright.

Speaker 13 I mean, we've established everything we need right there. Yeah.

Speaker 77 It's a real movie.

Speaker 54 We know why it's called The Curse.

Speaker 59 Yeah. And not Sergio.

Speaker 13 We get Sergio out there.

Speaker 4 I think this is in the 80s, yeah?

Speaker 13 90s. We think based on the car and your look,

Speaker 13 this guy is

Speaker 13 definitely related to the dude you played in Hero Song. Uh-huh.

Speaker 83 Yes, for sure.

Speaker 24 Same suit, similar look.

Speaker 13 But everything about your look, again, you know, early digital shorts, you did not have the full wardrobe department behind you. They absolutely murder it both with your look and Fred's look.

Speaker 4 Yeah, also the sacred talisman is like just a dream catcher.

Speaker 25 Yeah, it's a dream catcher.

Speaker 30 It's a cool dream catcher.

Speaker 49 I like Andy when your hair is blown dry because it really does.

Speaker 22 It gets a lot of loft.

Speaker 4 Yeah. It does.
You can see who I would have been in New York in the 80s.

Speaker 10 For sure.

Speaker 13 But everything, again, we're 41 seconds in, and that is with the digital short title card, and we know everything we need to know.

Speaker 22 Fred committed to the bit, even as the shot plays off of him, too.

Speaker 1 Well, Ham, I don't know if Fred improved the curse fake language, but I think he probably did i think he probably did i'm guessing yeah yeah uh another fred character that is of course unlike every like snowflake characters from fred and by that i mean none are exactly alike not exactly alike can i comment on one thing that i think akeeb is already gonna have had a problem with is the jump cut push-in as we pull back and then there's a uh a push-in on you like there's a jump to a did you already listen to his voice note no i don't think he mentions that in the voice note but like but i'm sure because i I remember him being like, we would never do that.

Speaker 1 That's just not what we do.

Speaker 51 And I was like, oh, that's part of our visual vocabulary. Yeah.

Speaker 13 I do want to just drill down on how quickly Andy found the logic problem of Jorm saying, I already listened to it. And then Jorm saying, I wonder if this is going to be in it.

Speaker 35 You're rubbing off on him.

Speaker 13 That's that's true.

Speaker 1 I like, I, uh, Ham, I blame a lot of stuff on this pod now of my drug use that because I'm on a lot of painkillers because of my yeah, it works pretty good.

Speaker 13 Oh, um, since I have that, somebody said, uh, I love that Yarma and my 15-pound terrier are on the same medication.

Speaker 11 By the way, everybody talks about how their dog's on this net.

Speaker 9 I gave my dog Gabapentin the other day.

Speaker 12 Yeah, first of all, I take more of it than a dog.

Speaker 15 All right.

Speaker 10 Is that good?

Speaker 49 I don't know. My dog's 95 pounds.
He's probably on a similar diet.

Speaker 15 They probably take double that.

Speaker 13 Is your dog taking it because it fell off a ladder?

Speaker 81 All right.

Speaker 1 Just keep going. Press button.

Speaker 15 Jesus.

Speaker 85 All right, guys. I know numbers are down, but if we just apply this system, I promise you, we're going to see revenue skyrocket.

Speaker 30 Can we pause?

Speaker 4 I think this is the exact same setup as like a boss.

Speaker 13 Yeah, no, it really does. And hair-wise, too.

Speaker 4 Same hair, basically the same suit.

Speaker 1 It's also like the same stock footage as in like probably like 90%.

Speaker 59 I noticed it's just ice cream flavors on the spreadsheet thing behind you.

Speaker 5 Oh, is it?

Speaker 22 Yeah, chocolate, rocky roads, strawberry, vanilla.

Speaker 5 Like you really seriously decided to do that.

Speaker 2 That's what this guy does.

Speaker 23 He's an ice cream guy.

Speaker 29 We stick to the process.

Speaker 13 If you want to know how you keep one of these moving, it's that he says things like: Tell her if she wants to be in the big league, she's got to learn how to play ball.

Speaker 13 And also, I know numbers are down.

Speaker 2 She's got to get her hands dirty.

Speaker 52 Oh, he's got a hands dirty.

Speaker 79 Little nod from that lady.

Speaker 33 The lady's legging.

Speaker 6 Guys, guys,

Speaker 6 Marcy and Steve

Speaker 33 Simpson.

Speaker 57 All right.

Speaker 52 So a lot happened. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Not what you're, if you didn't know what this was about, I'm guessing that's not what you were guessing was going to happen.

Speaker 22 The audience certainly didn't really know what was going on.

Speaker 10 They're not with it.

Speaker 13 No. They're not with it yet.

Speaker 52 I think there was a bit of a laugh.

Speaker 76 No? A titter?

Speaker 13 There's a bit of a laugh, but it's the build. I'm only saying, like, I want to get full credit for how it builds in both how the beats are better and the storytelling gets very sticky.

Speaker 50 They're not quite sure what they're laughing at yet, other than it is absurd.

Speaker 43 The audience, I feel like, is treating it kind of like the people around that conference room table were, which they're kind of like looking.

Speaker 61 Like, what's happening? Yeah.

Speaker 83 Okay.

Speaker 43 Oh, I'm going to get up and start dancing now.

Speaker 40 Yeah.

Speaker 26 Pretty positive.

Speaker 13 Also, one woman and one man got up to dance.

Speaker 83 Well, you know.

Speaker 13 Yeah, it wasn't just that the ladies are into it.

Speaker 1 There's some pretty good cutaways of your bod, too.

Speaker 13 We also don't quite know it's a horror movie yet because nothing really horrific has happened. Even you weren't that scared, Andy.

Speaker 21 No, correct. Just a little confused.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Confused, yeah.
Like, what the hell?

Speaker 28 Guy just burst through the wall.

Speaker 61 Now, I will say, I want to remind everybody that when we're shooting these things, we're on some, what are we on, like ninth floor, some weird 6C.

Speaker 59 we're we're we're building these stages in some random place it's probably you know two in the morning and it's freezing cold whatever wherever the place is we're shooting these on these stages is so cold yes and i'm covered in gel yes

Speaker 49 yeah you are and um i'm blowing out but i can't blow out because i have to

Speaker 22 puff out my cheeks and there's no reed in that saxophone.

Speaker 27 Yeah.

Speaker 49 So I'm basically holding my breath and on more than one occasion, I almost passed out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're saying acting is hard, right?

Speaker 10 Like, I mean,

Speaker 4 don't forget, we're all sick.

Speaker 32 Everyone's sick.

Speaker 70 This is pre-COVID, but people still get sick.

Speaker 56 All right, let's keep going.

Speaker 66 Said we just came through the wall.

Speaker 82 Yeah, it was crazy.

Speaker 31 Sorry, Seth, can we stop?

Speaker 4 That was a big laugh at the end of that first Sergio.

Speaker 13 You're right. I take a bad one.

Speaker 13 Again, I'm a huge fan of it. Yeah, sorry.

Speaker 4 I'm sorry.

Speaker 52 Let's play it.

Speaker 13 All right, let's play it.

Speaker 66 Said we just came through

Speaker 4 You look dazzling.

Speaker 66 Dazzling, Jenny.

Speaker 13 The wind is back.

Speaker 1 The best use of Lenny Piggot ever.

Speaker 35 This might be some of my favorite dancing ever done on the side.

Speaker 42 That's like, she looks like a

Speaker 27 car salesman balloon guy.

Speaker 36 Yeah.

Speaker 13 It's very good. Very nice work with what she's given by Jenny Slayton this short.

Speaker 4 Also that moves pretty fast, that beat.

Speaker 53 Quick beat.

Speaker 13 Totally. Yeah.

Speaker 27 Now it's gaining momentum.

Speaker 7 That's what helped with that one.

Speaker 13 Now we are in. If you want to know what Steve Higgins' office looks like, everybody, 117.

Speaker 13 We are in it right now. It is Sudakis as a therapist and Andy on a couch.
We know right away this is therapist stuff. And here we go.

Speaker 85 I know it sounds crazy, but I'm starting to genuinely believe I've been cursed by a homeless man.

Speaker 78 How do you mean?

Speaker 85 Well, I broke this trinket, and now every time I feel a gust of wind, this crazy, sexy sax guy comes bursting through the wall.

Speaker 45 So these are daydreams.

Speaker 85 No, I think it's actually happening.

Speaker 67 Oh no.

Speaker 45 Oh no, not again.

Speaker 67 Oh, sorry.

Speaker 85 It was a little stuffy in here. I thought I'd give the window a crack.

Speaker 67 No problem.

Speaker 82 So where were we?

Speaker 23 I'd forgotten about both.

Speaker 19 Really good stretch, Ham.

Speaker 1 That like your stretch over Andy's face to like really get your crotch in there is fucking

Speaker 28 explodes and becomes surgery.

Speaker 55 It explodes into surgery.

Speaker 4 Jenny is there somehow again.

Speaker 61 That crotch in the face move is to be repeated on the hundredth.

Speaker 10 Correct. Yes.
Yeah.

Speaker 49 Remember the bee, the beeb got a face full of crotch.

Speaker 40 Yeah.

Speaker 13 The nice thing about how this is structured is we have hit rule of threes. So I think that kind of your guard's down a little bit now.

Speaker 13 And also Kool-Aid Man, Kool-Aid Man, and then Sadegas explodes.

Speaker 25 Very nice heighten there.

Speaker 13 Jenny comes back from beat two to join the dancing in beat three. And now we're back.
We're fully into plot right now, which you know I've got.

Speaker 27 It's got the drive and momentum of a 70s thriller at this point.

Speaker 24 Yep.

Speaker 38 It's the parallax view.

Speaker 1 Yes. Can I also mention that just because we did have a different director and Chrysal was really good at doing his own effects?

Speaker 1 And I remember actually being kind of excited that I was like, oh, these are kind of new, stupid effects.

Speaker 1 But he was really good at actually doing his own. I mean, he did a shitload of like African.

Speaker 14 Even this, look at this shot right here.

Speaker 59 This is a little Dutch angle.

Speaker 61 It's, you know, it's got a lot of

Speaker 1 something else going on.

Speaker 35 Velocity to it. It's, there's, it's.

Speaker 4 Dare I say Hitchcockian?

Speaker 41 Yeah, you can say it.

Speaker 77 What's up? What's up?

Speaker 30 It's like I said, the velocity is ramping up.

Speaker 10 Alright, here we go.

Speaker 10 You!

Speaker 75 Please, you have to make it stop. You made your choice.

Speaker 67 You would not pay.

Speaker 75 I'll pay anything.

Speaker 67 Please, just lift the curse.

Speaker 91 All right.

Speaker 91 I will help you.

Speaker 75 Take this, mend it, hang it over your bed.

Speaker 85 Keep it safe.

Speaker 89 It will protect you from the curse forever.

Speaker 67 I will. I will.
Thank you.

Speaker 78 Thank you.

Speaker 82 Five years later.

Speaker 10 That was great.

Speaker 18 All right.

Speaker 1 The fact that that happened simultaneously was great. Really, really good for a remote.

Speaker 22 Clearly five years later because you're wearing glasses.

Speaker 4 Yeah, totally different guy. He's nice now.

Speaker 52 Yeah. You're nice.

Speaker 13 Sweater vest.

Speaker 13 You don't swoop your hair back anymore.

Speaker 24 Rumpled hair.

Speaker 13 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 13 Wig is your wife. You You didn't end up with Jenny.
I think we're all happy about that.

Speaker 10 Yeah, it worked out.

Speaker 13 Based on how she reacted to Sergeio, Jenny was not the one for you.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I think that's right.

Speaker 44 Clearly, she was ready to pit you over the side.

Speaker 13 And again, I don't think

Speaker 13 anybody is ahead of this at this point in the audience.

Speaker 22 No.

Speaker 13 Which is really joyful.

Speaker 31 Hey, just hang on, honey. You're doing great.

Speaker 67 Nurse, ready to the birthing room.

Speaker 68 That's it. You're doing great.
Just hang in there. I love you.

Speaker 92 I love you too.

Speaker 67 Oh, and by the way,

Speaker 92 earlier today, I accidentally knocked your good luck trinket out of the floor.

Speaker 66 I didn't know that it fell, and I stepped on it really, really hard and I broke it.

Speaker 67 You just have more grease on you now.

Speaker 1 It's fucking great.

Speaker 68 By the way, 345, it's really not that long.

Speaker 10 No, not for long.

Speaker 1 The storytelling that you pack in.

Speaker 4 I remembered it being much longer.

Speaker 13 You think it's long because you can't believe it's so much story.

Speaker 1 Genuinely. It's cutting very fast.

Speaker 29 Well, that's what I said.

Speaker 14 You guys are tremendous at the economy of storytelling.

Speaker 71 You get right to the next beat, to the next beat, and

Speaker 43 the pace and the internal velocity ramp up.

Speaker 60 I mean, it really does start kind of deliberate.

Speaker 27 You get all the story, like Seth said, you want in 40 seconds, and then it just runs.

Speaker 13 So the really nice thing is she tells you she broke your good luck thing. Then she holds it up because, of course, she's delivering a baby, but she also brought it up.

Speaker 4 She had to pull it out and she brought it with her.

Speaker 38 She had it in her pocket.

Speaker 13 Then we hear the sound cue. The wind starts going through Andy's hair.
Again, Andy's the only person, the only character in the scene who knows something's about to happen. You're looking around

Speaker 10 as we all are.

Speaker 83 That's usually where he comes from.

Speaker 23 Unless he explodes a terrorist.

Speaker 13 And instead, he comes out from between Wig's legs, just like covered and just.

Speaker 80 Yeah.

Speaker 80 Yeah. But I mean, you know what?

Speaker 1 He's just even sexy.

Speaker 4 It's just clear. It's just clear gel.

Speaker 13 Clear gel. And then what I like is everybody reacts the way they would.
Yeah. In the way the first beat, like everybody's like, oh, what's going on here? Now it's a full fucking horror movie.

Speaker 83 It's a horror movie.

Speaker 13 Wig passes out, hater screams, and then we have one of my favorite Andy faces.

Speaker 48 I mean, just

Speaker 4 horse mouth open sob.

Speaker 48 Yeah, horse mouth open sob is a very good way.

Speaker 23 HMI.

Speaker 1 You're very good at naming your own facial.

Speaker 13 Kreitzel came over. He's like, can you give me a little more horse mouth open sob? And you're like, I got you.

Speaker 77 You want a wide-angle lens?

Speaker 23 Let's fucking dance.

Speaker 5 You want to do 20% more?

Speaker 22 This was one of the places, though, where I was really, really, really cold.

Speaker 18 Yeah,

Speaker 15 I should say so.

Speaker 4 I remember you saying it at the time.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 29 Like, let's, let's, let's quick sticks on this one because I'm freezing.

Speaker 49 I'm so cold right now.

Speaker 4 I think it was a fucking perfect, perfect take.

Speaker 13 I just want to jump in real quick because it's like such a cool short. And it's so funny, like, how much John wants to hammer home how cold he was.

Speaker 4 I relate to this. If we were talking about certain things I've done, I would have to point out how cold I was.
Yeah. Which is many times, Seth, as you know.

Speaker 13 Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I got it.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 So I remember being on the floor watching this air and being like this is going pretty good and then when it got to that last scene in the in the delivery room and he comes out I remember being like oh we did good because the audience goes fucking insane on that moment and I remember being like I'm so happy that we were able to do one that got this level of a reaction Yes.

Speaker 39 Where did it air, Seth, in the rundown?

Speaker 62 Hi.

Speaker 23 Early.

Speaker 13 It was like kind of the early.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was the first pre-tape.

Speaker 13 It was the Lauren likes it digital shortcut.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 58 Seth. I'm just saying we know the difference.

Speaker 13 I also just want to give credit to how nice a piece of writing it is that John buttoned each beat by saying Sarah Joe to the camera.

Speaker 13 It's a funny way for every beat to end and it's the perfect ending for the whole piece. Yeah, it's a great act.

Speaker 44 It took me a long time to get the timing right of that too because you guys were always like, you got to look and say it.

Speaker 61 And I was always saying it when I was looking at it.

Speaker 44 I wasn't doing it right.

Speaker 48 Well, you were so cold.

Speaker 13 You were so cold and you were out of breath.

Speaker 10 I was so cold, cold, I couldn't do it.

Speaker 46 I just wasn't getting it right.

Speaker 60 And I get frustrated when I don't get anything right on like the third take. I'm like, God,

Speaker 22 am I stupid? Like, what is this? Why am I not doing it?

Speaker 1 Especially if you're covered in slime.

Speaker 4 I have no memory of that, John. But, but you did nail it whenever, whatever.

Speaker 22 Yeah, they only used the good ones, so thank God.

Speaker 13 Yeah, so this came right out of Don't Make Me Sing.

Speaker 10 Oh, wow.

Speaker 13 So, no commercial break. And that's just, you know, look, you can't have a better act in SNL history than don't make me sing into the curse.

Speaker 29 I think you could, but it's still good.

Speaker 16 It's a good one.

Speaker 13 I'm sorry. That's that's impeachably great.
You can't, you can have ones as good, but I don't think you can have a better act.

Speaker 49 Maybe, maybe unimpeachably great, but okay.

Speaker 26 Yeah, it's some peach.

Speaker 57 It's got some peach on it.

Speaker 1 I have a question for both Ham and Andy. And this is an actor question

Speaker 1 because obviously you guys have been in the edits, you've been in edit rooms, especially you, Andy, obviously, but you and Ham as well.

Speaker 51 I got a DJA card.

Speaker 1 Do you ever, because you you know how much fucking time an editor is going to be looking at your face, whether it's a movie or TV show, do you ever look at the camera and actually say anything?

Speaker 1 Like Tiffany Haddish used to do this thing where she would turn to the camera and just go, Hey, Mr. Editor, make me look good.

Speaker 1 But do you guys ever talk to the editor because you know they're going to be looking at your face?

Speaker 4 First of all, I'm so glad that that question had a name drop in the middle of it. Nope.

Speaker 3 Secondly, yes.

Speaker 4 But more like on something like Brooklyn 99 where I knew them actually. Yeah.

Speaker 30 So, and then I would be like, sorry, Doug. And would you say, like,

Speaker 4 don't use that? I would be like, I'm so sorry, Courtney.

Speaker 52 Right.

Speaker 4 Like, if I was fucking up or something.

Speaker 69 Like, yeah.

Speaker 16 Or be like, definitely use that tick. Courtney, you have to use that tick.

Speaker 15 Oh, my God. Can we for me?

Speaker 15 If you don't use that tick, I'll know. And I'll be so pissed.

Speaker 76 And I'll come down to your bungalow.

Speaker 23 It's a double star.

Speaker 80 Underline, underline, underline.

Speaker 49 No, I've never done that.

Speaker 51 I've never been like, I guess, confident enough to have that conversation.

Speaker 51 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, just know that people look at your face for like

Speaker 1 fucking months on end.

Speaker 4 You heard it here first, everyone. I, in one small way, am more confident than John Hamm.

Speaker 23 See?

Speaker 7 There you go.

Speaker 13 Let's hear the voice now.

Speaker 30 All right, let's do it.

Speaker 68 What's up, guys? It's Akiva,

Speaker 68 Quaid Army. Big fan.
Love the pod. John Hamm, so sorry to miss you.
Your Fletch is the best Fletch. Okay, let's get into this.
So I'm in L.A.

Speaker 68 I am working on writing with Spicer, Winkler, and Jonah Hill.

Speaker 68 And I am having the weird experience of seeing shorts that I have nothing to do with being on TV for the first time. So it just feels a little, a little weird to me.

Speaker 68 And this one is arguably the best one that you guys did without me. And it's really good.

Speaker 84 Okay. And it's very funny.

Speaker 68 And with all that said,

Speaker 68 I remember having some issues with the filmmaking.

Speaker 68 And I love Chrysal, but and Andy remembers it, as I'm sure he's talked about already or is about to, and I'm sure I didn't behave the way you should, which would just be unbridled positivity and keep my opinions to myself.

Speaker 68 But I apparently couldn't help myself.

Speaker 84 And for that, I apologize.

Speaker 68 And I just re-watched it, expecting not to be able to know what bothered me.

Speaker 68 But it actually was glaringly obvious what bothered me. And it's all nitpicky filmmaking stuff.
It is not about the comedy or the performances or that it plays and is great.

Speaker 1 That's nice.

Speaker 68 Okay, at one minute and three seconds in, you jump the eye line.

Speaker 68 So this is Sergio has just broken through the wall of the business room, the boardroom, and Andy is in wide, and he looks right to left where the smoke cloud is coming in to the foreground.

Speaker 68 Then it goes to Andy's close-up, and now he's looking left to right. Then it cuts back to Sergio, and Sergio's on the far right of the frame, which just even further disorients me.

Speaker 68 Then, when it cuts to the board members,

Speaker 68 they're looking in the right direction-ish, but it's vague rather than like cleanly set up where you know where everybody is in the geography.

Speaker 68 Like in, let's look at like in our Rain Wilson business meeting one or something, where you know exactly where things are.

Speaker 68 And so, I just found it distracting because I'm a stickler for eye lines working. Then, at the end of it, Andy's like, Marcy, Steve, and it's back to the correct eye line there.

Speaker 68 So, at this point, I just know we're not in control. This wasn't a choice.
Sometimes people break the eye line on purpose to disorient you in like a horror way or in a,

Speaker 68 I don't know, Requiem for a Dream or something. I don't know, but this is not on purpose.
So this is, we're now,

Speaker 32 we're, we're in uncharted water here.

Speaker 68 We, these are not reliable filmmakers. These people don't know what they're doing.

Speaker 15 That's what I know.

Speaker 68 Then in the Jenny Slate date scene, again, we've set up the wine pouring shot on one side of the scene, setting up that that's the side we're on and that's where the eye line will be.

Speaker 68 Then when Sergio comes in through the wall, that's fine. It's the two shot he goes from the back, kind of resetting what side we might be on.

Speaker 68 But then it goes to the two shot of you and Jenny were on the other side, totally disorienting me.

Speaker 68 Then Jenny gets up, exits frame left, and when she returns, she enters the same frame left on the reverse of Sergio, making it seem like she's jumped over to the other side of the, of Sergio, which is just, there's no excuse for this.

Speaker 68 This is not on purpose. This is just sloppy and wrong.
Okay. And then my last thing, I'll just leave a pause here for

Speaker 68 me.

Speaker 1 The reason I disagree with this is because there's fantasy involved.

Speaker 15 That's the reason I'm fair.

Speaker 68 It's a good sketch again, like I said.

Speaker 4 Give us your last one, Kiev, and your voice now.

Speaker 66 Then the color correction.

Speaker 68 So the cameras at that time, and sometimes the Alexa still does this, or sometimes maybe it was the red, I forget. It was the red.

Speaker 68 But they gave everything kind of this yellow jaundiced look where everything's washed out and kind of has this beige over it that I recognize as very flat.

Speaker 68 And you have to do a little work in color correction to pull that away to get rid of that shit so that it looks like a finished piece of work. This just looks like raw footage to me.

Speaker 68 So it kind of looked unfinished and

Speaker 68 amateury. Anyways, love you, Chrysal.

Speaker 17 Wow.

Speaker 57 Yeah. Shots fired.

Speaker 15 Come on.

Speaker 68 And I know the Quinns are going to agree with me on this one because there was one comment on the last video that said, I like it when Keeve nerds out. So take that.

Speaker 68 Anyways, love you guys. Love Love the pod.
Love everything you do. Later, Arnold.
Later, cool.

Speaker 23 Wow.

Speaker 6 Wait, you're not allowed to do that with that.

Speaker 23 No, you want to end the show there. Cool.

Speaker 1 Which is a great way to end it.

Speaker 1 But here's the reason that that voice note gives me a little bit of PTSD is because I remember while I was trying to edit Magruber, Keith calling me and complaining and being like, what are you doing?

Speaker 70 You got to get over there.

Speaker 1 And like, like being very upset that I wasn't taking charge.

Speaker 4 After seeing the curse air?

Speaker 1 No, this was like during the week. He was really nervous about it.
And then I remember him like, we were sending him edits as it was going. And he was like upset.

Speaker 1 I can't remember how it worked, but like, I just remember the feeling of guilt of like, well, I got to edit this movie.

Speaker 15 And he was like, what are you doing?

Speaker 70 Like,

Speaker 77 here's what I'll say.

Speaker 4 It's all born. Keeve, I love you.

Speaker 1 We love you. Yes, of course.

Speaker 4 Obviously, that's of course,

Speaker 5 of course.

Speaker 12 Well, I don't know.

Speaker 4 We need Chrysal to chime in, honestly, because there's an argument.

Speaker 4 It seemed like his problem was consistent in terms of breaking the line that could have been a choice that chrysal was making i don't know that it was i i agree with that it was only like one and then jenny slate beat that i was like oh yeah yeah but like but to me like the moment a guy comes through the wall it's like i'm like i'm fine yeah it kind of goes now it's like are we now in sergio world where you break the line on purpose to disorient people yes but that's a choice and i will only say that i i don't like it now you don't like the short anymore yeah he completely went around oh you got keeved brother i got keeved Eddie.

Speaker 5 You got straight up Keeved. All right, later, Quaids.

Speaker 4 Never let Keeve tell you what he thinks about your wife because your life will end.

Speaker 10 I'm not talking about me.

Speaker 16 Yeah, I'm still together with my wife because he likes her.

Speaker 76 Otherwise, if he didn't, we wouldn't be together. I'm so sorry, Eddie.

Speaker 64 Oh, God, I didn't mean that.

Speaker 1 I'm fucking taking back. I'm glad he made his speech at our wedding.

Speaker 77 No, but it was true.

Speaker 48 We all know it's true. I'm so fucked.

Speaker 13 I remember

Speaker 13 he was at dinner once with Alexi, and he kept complaining because she would leave the table and then come back in from the other direction.

Speaker 1 Exactly, which is just disoriented.

Speaker 5 He didn't know where to look.

Speaker 57 Yeah, he didn't know where to look.

Speaker 52 I feel like your wife breaks the line a lot.

Speaker 47 Well, I think we have to release the Keeve cut.

Speaker 22 I think he's got to take another pass at this,

Speaker 71 flip a few negs and color time it to his satisfaction and we'll run side by side.

Speaker 30 We'll see if it's better or worse.

Speaker 1 So it's not amateur hour.

Speaker 4 Here's my very generous takeaway.

Speaker 30 Keeve cares a lot.

Speaker 4 And this is something we all built together. And even though it was his choice to completely fucking abandon me and go work on a movie,

Speaker 4 which never came out. So worth it.
Not his fault, but still so worth it.

Speaker 10 Just a vacation in LA for him.

Speaker 4 So I understand the feeling of like, I want to do both things. I want to be there.
This is the thing we built together. This is also my legacy.
I want to make sure it's how I would want it to be.

Speaker 4 I have all those feelings about things when the shoe is on the other foot. Is that how you say it? When it's the other way around? It's probably clear.

Speaker 4 But yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I don't know that anyone else has ever cared about the things that he just noted but hit us in the tittis i'd be curious well can i can i add on to that too is that in addition to what andy just said i've learned to be a more meticulous person

Speaker 1 not even director meticulous person which i'm still not like but both me and andy but both me and andy like i think learned how to be better filmmakers through i've already referenced the latter or else i would jump in and and you can imagine like i'm fine with that i'm very confident i think you're just differently meticulous, if I can say that.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 22 Borderline tongue twister.

Speaker 4 Differently meticulous and ridiculous.

Speaker 15 Yes.

Speaker 10 Imam Adula.

Speaker 22 Del the funky Homo sapien.

Speaker 13 Your rap name was Rick Meticulous.

Speaker 5 Rick Meticulous.

Speaker 2 That's right. You remember?

Speaker 4 Arithmeticulous.

Speaker 58 Rick Meticulous.

Speaker 22 Ridiculously, differently meticulous. Arithmeticulous.

Speaker 4 Okay, so, but yes, Jorm, and I absolutely agree. I'm so much better at editing because of Akiva and writing, all the things.
He's our guy.

Speaker 4 We learned from him. He learned from us.
We did it all together. It's beautiful.

Speaker 6 That said, shut up, bro.

Speaker 1 And I will say the SNL digital short logo was a point of pride and that that is part of it.

Speaker 1 Like what goes in there has to have a certain

Speaker 13 funny that I'm, I mean, and I know that's very real.

Speaker 13 And you were not saying that it's a joke at all because it is the, as we've established, it's like the flattest opening logo that you guys are like.

Speaker 52 do not let that flag touch the ground generic

Speaker 4 yes there's three people who for sure know that it means that it's us and it's us yeah yeah there you go but if we talk about it a lot on this uh podcast i family yeah hopefully more people know now but uh so all of that i mean for me when he had his issues i was like it's the reason that i wanted to bring up how it felt on the floor watching it air that pride I felt of having pulled one off with neither of them there and to get that reaction from the audience and to do right by ham and to like have done it with Chrysal, who I was really just starting to work with, I was like, fuck, man.

Speaker 31 I feel like we just did really good.

Speaker 29 I was so happy at the after party.

Speaker 38 And you being sick, you being very sick and very tired and me being very cool.

Speaker 23 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Don't forget about how chilly ham was.

Speaker 5 And Andy, were you like, fuck those guys?

Speaker 79 Kind of like you were just like, no, not at all.

Speaker 11 I don't need those guys at all.

Speaker 4 I just assumed he was right and it was bad in a way I didn't understand.

Speaker 10 And then you, then

Speaker 13 you hung up the phone and you made the same horse face that you made at the end of Sergio, right?

Speaker 93 Get the wide angle lens.

Speaker 93 Terry Gilliam me.

Speaker 74 Boom. Maybe he's wrong.

Speaker 2 There's a lesson.

Speaker 48 Mostly

Speaker 27 when you sit with these things too, there is a lesson to learn of like, if anybody's trying to make films for the first time, it's like sometimes those mistakes are egregious and sometimes you can.

Speaker 18 live with them.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 59 You know, it's, it's, they're not always, you know, because we've all been on set shooting something and it's like, well, well we could get it from over here, but we'd kind of be jumping the line and it's like well there's a there's a time and a place when you can do that that's not gonna completely pull somebody out of the scene and and I think that's a good lesson to learn too.

Speaker 30 It's also like you know sometimes it's not so bad.

Speaker 83 Yep. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Yep.

Speaker 4 I I did ask Chrysler for a voice note, but he hasn't had time to get one to us yet. But maybe for next time I would love to hear what he has to say about it.

Speaker 1 Fucking, I mean, he's got a hair ceves and then just shots fired.

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Speaker 13 We'll get to why, but I asked Forte for a voice note that he said he would have no problem getting by 4 p.m. and it's almost 8.

Speaker 4 Got it. Was he talking about West Coast, though? Maybe Hawaiian time?

Speaker 13 No, he's out. He's East Coast.
Yeah, he's out.

Speaker 77 He's right on, yeah.

Speaker 42 Oh, was this Closet Organizer?

Speaker 32 Yeah. Oh,

Speaker 31 yeah, man.

Speaker 10 So again, God damn.

Speaker 13 This is how good this show is.

Speaker 22 Every time I hear from him, he references that sketch.

Speaker 59 We refer to each other by our names, Noah.

Speaker 4 So wait, before we move on.

Speaker 58 Okay, please.

Speaker 10 Seth, Yorm,

Speaker 4 Cam, it's a little loaded for you. Is the curse criterion?

Speaker 13 100%. No hesitation at all.

Speaker 25 I mean, I think so.

Speaker 1 No hesitation. And I think anything that, not anything that made it into the 100th digital short, but like there's a reason it's in the 100th digital short.
Yes.

Speaker 36 Agreed.

Speaker 60 Also, I was around, even though I wasn't like hosting or anything, but I was around when the tournament happened.

Speaker 41 I think I filled out a bracket, and I think it went pretty far in the bracket.

Speaker 10 It was in there.

Speaker 13 Yeah, for sure. I would be surprised if it didn't make the Sweet 16.

Speaker 49 Final 16, if not 8.

Speaker 42 I think it went pretty far.

Speaker 27 But also, it just felt like it kind of had it, you know, Sergio kind of kept going

Speaker 51 as a thing.

Speaker 39 People, you know, whatever.

Speaker 51 It had a life of its own.

Speaker 4 Agreed. And I heard about it a lot after as well.

Speaker 1 I mean, Ham, you've had some pretty

Speaker 1 amazingly sticky characters with that Don Draper guy.

Speaker 1 Like, we're like with

Speaker 1 Sergio.

Speaker 68 Me and Zeth both just, our eyes rolled out of our skulls.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? Why?

Speaker 30 Because it's sticky.

Speaker 3 That's sticky.

Speaker 29 Why are you suddenly trying to be like a normal host?

Speaker 1 What are you talking about?

Speaker 9 I'm a shock doctor.

Speaker 48 Shock jocks. You're still a shock doctor.

Speaker 81 All kinds of shock docks.

Speaker 2 They have different kinds of modes.

Speaker 15 Do you have a list of questions for this?

Speaker 48 Did you prepare your?

Speaker 10 Sticky characters.

Speaker 1 My question is, how often do people reference Sergio on the street?

Speaker 34 A lot.

Speaker 7 Lots.

Speaker 50 A lot, a lot, a lot. You know, especially, you know, in the couple, what you said this was 2010?

Speaker 41 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, this is January 2010.

Speaker 27 It had a good run of people like coming up to me on the street and yelling, Sergio.

Speaker 13 And follow-up.

Speaker 4 How many of them bring up the jumping the line?

Speaker 12 Sergio, you fucked it up on

Speaker 11 minute 103.

Speaker 15 What's up with the color correction, though?

Speaker 53 Hey, Sergio, you're a great sex guy, but a shitty filmmaker.

Speaker 15 Sergio, does it break your heart?

Speaker 93 Does it break your heart how close you came?

Speaker 48 Sergio, you were so close, dude. Then you fucking fucking dropped it.

Speaker 48 I was so disoriented.

Speaker 80 Why are you so washed out?

Speaker 16 Oh, hey, I didn't recognize you. I thought you were Sergio, but your color's not fucked up.

Speaker 15 Oh, my God.

Speaker 23 We burned it.

Speaker 13 All right. Can we jump on then, Andy?

Speaker 1 Well, I had some more sincere stuff to say.

Speaker 15 Oh, no. All right, let's move on.

Speaker 76 Well, okay, I just want to pick up.

Speaker 13 Hold up, yeah, hold on what's up, dude? I'm okay, thank you. My uh, my son came in with two things, which was uh, he told me to stop yelling and asked me if I wanted a beef steak.

Speaker 26 Oh, he's a good dude, yeah, uh,

Speaker 63 okay, and sure, yes, I'm sorry, and stop yelling.

Speaker 12 Do you want a beef steak?

Speaker 13 Okay, so this just uh, this just time stamps where we are in the world. Uh, the next sketch, uh, you play Scott Brown, oh boy, yeah, hot senator, new center.

Speaker 44 God, that was a fun one, too.

Speaker 13 Then we have Michael Bouble sings his first song. And then

Speaker 13 update. Then Greg is not an alien for the second time.

Speaker 13 That's Bill as the sports anchor. He's definitely an alien.

Speaker 78 Oh, God, I forgot about those.

Speaker 35 Greg is definitely an alien.

Speaker 4 He was definitely an alien.

Speaker 13 Keenan is

Speaker 13 a host of a sports show.

Speaker 22 First time caller, longtime listener. Just wanted to say Greg is definitely an alien.

Speaker 23 Yeah.

Speaker 6 That's the whole sketch.

Speaker 97 Hello, and welcome to another edition of Game Time with Randy and Greg, your one-stop shop for sports talk. I'm former NFL running back Randy Dukes, and with me, as always, is my co-host, Greg.

Speaker 97 Greg is not an alien, and today we're going to be talking about...

Speaker 23 It's great.

Speaker 48 Really funny.

Speaker 72 I also feel like, was this before or after?

Speaker 27 I feel like this had been kind of done, or maybe it was, we did it first, this one did it first anyway, was where there was the multiplicity thing happening.

Speaker 10 Yeah, this is.

Speaker 35 Because they did it with the Falconer.

Speaker 13 Yes, that was... Falconer was first, but this was the,

Speaker 13 I think, the second Greg's an alien. And yes, you started multiplying.
So I think Michael Bryan shows up. Brian Tucker shows up as an alien, all dressed like Greg.
Yeah.

Speaker 13 Do you remember who you play in this sketch, John?

Speaker 59 Stan Van Gundy?

Speaker 60 Do I play?

Speaker 38 I play a coach.

Speaker 13 You play Frank Reich, the coach of the Bills.

Speaker 26 You go to the Bills, occults.

Speaker 13 Who gets attacked by Greg and then returns to the show

Speaker 13 as an alien. Yeah.

Speaker 13 Then we're off into Seth's Corner. Norm, sing us in in real quick.

Speaker 1 Seth's Corner, here's the part of the show that Seth talks about. What he did that week.
Pay it away, Seth.

Speaker 13 You know what? I'm going to come right back at you, Andy, and say, like, here's another. This is maybe even more impressive.
This is a three-sketch act that I put up against anything.

Speaker 13 Ham and Bubbly is the next sketch, which is John Hamm and Michael Bouble have opened a ham and a champagne restaurant.

Speaker 7 I did a lot of that one, man. That was a good one.

Speaker 4 Is it called Ham and Bubbly or Ham and Bouble?

Speaker 13 No, it's Ham and Bubbly.

Speaker 13 And then John is a very menacing guy. And over the course of the sketch, you realize that he's kidnapped Michael Bouble.

Speaker 13 And he insists. And Michael does try to say it's actually pronounced Bouble.
And he's like, and John, like, very menacingly says, that's not.

Speaker 49 No, no, now it's

Speaker 49 Bubbly.

Speaker 6 His eyes went black and he smacked my face.

Speaker 13 And he sings songs. He's singing.

Speaker 68 And every time it's like, I know what you're thinking, and I agree.

Speaker 68 This is a bad idea for a restaurant.

Speaker 68 Oh, no, he's coming back. When I get a chance, I'll explain how he came to this.

Speaker 4 This is the John Ham's John Hamm unofficial sequel.

Speaker 32 Yes.

Speaker 13 Also, Michael Bouble was not at the table. I think we all know I can't sing, and I had to sing the Michael Bouble part at the table read on Wednesday.

Speaker 10 Hey, made the show.

Speaker 13 Not great. I remember Sudakis maybe laughing so hard he was choking, but he made the show.

Speaker 22 He made the show.

Speaker 4 I was going to say, Sudakis would have... died to do the boobla parts.

Speaker 13 I know, but I couldn't. Well, I was very worried about getting the scanchion of the jokes, right? Yeah, yeah, I understand.
At the table, I knew I could sing the jokes.

Speaker 84 All right, fair, fair, fair, fair.

Speaker 13 Well, not as Michael Booblai. But a thing I had forgotten was: at one point, John says, like, the deal now is.

Speaker 82 And if you like entertainment with your meal, you're in luck. Every night at Ham and Bubbly, Mr.

Speaker 66 Michael Bubbley will perform two shows.

Speaker 82 In the 8 p.m. show, Michael is a ventriloquist.

Speaker 82 At 11 p.m., he does a one-man show about William Faulkner.

Speaker 89 Don't you think it would just be better if I sang in the shows?

Speaker 67 Excuse me.

Speaker 82 That sound means another delicious ham is ready.

Speaker 15 Neither are we singing.

Speaker 13 And then Michael McLeay goes, wouldn't it be better if I just sang? And you just stare at him.

Speaker 13 It's really great. All right.
Then we go into Closet Organizer, which is a pre-tape. And again, in order to get a three-sketch act, you need a pre-tape in the middle.

Speaker 13 So it's a late-night television ad for a closet organizer. It's exceptional work by Sudeikis only doing the voiceover because it's like, hi, it's a closet organizer.
It's a really funny, dumb voice.

Speaker 13 And it's basically Will Forte dressed in a blue bodysuit, standing in a closet, and he organizes your closet. And then they're just people keep off camera.

Speaker 13 You never see anybody are throwing things at him. And he's organizing them in the closet, but he immediately isn't catching them.
And it's just a mess.

Speaker 38 The idea is that you throw things at this person who lives in your closet and he puts them away neatly for you. He's your closet organizer.

Speaker 54 But it immediately goes off the rail.

Speaker 4 Blue Spandex suit.

Speaker 13 Yeah. Blue Spandex suit with a head covering.
Perfect forte.

Speaker 71 He's a blue shape.

Speaker 13 I want to make sure. I think all you need to give him is a little bit of food and water and a bucket for him to do his business in.

Speaker 64 And then it cuts to him.

Speaker 13 His pants are still on, but he's squatting over a bucket. It's a lot of water.

Speaker 13 Like some of the things in the closet organizer are water, just for the joy of seeing him splash with water. Marbles,

Speaker 13 and then at the end, it goes, pies, pies, pie.

Speaker 48 And he just keeps getting hit with pies.

Speaker 4 This is pure forte solemn.

Speaker 26 One right.

Speaker 22 A thousand percent, John and Will.

Speaker 6 God damn it, John and Will.

Speaker 58 Will is very good physically.

Speaker 63 So fun.

Speaker 13 And again, I reached out to them and they were,

Speaker 13 they said, oh my God, definitely. When do you need it, bye? And it's four hours past then.
But let's just watch it.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Weren't there three pieces pieces of it?

Speaker 10 Two, there were only two.

Speaker 22 There were three pieces of uh finger and butts, excuse me.

Speaker 22 Does this happen to you?

Speaker 22 Is your closet an absolute mess?

Speaker 66 Are you way too stupid to keep your closet clean?

Speaker 66 Introducing the new Zipco closet organizer, great for shoes, sweaters, belts, hats, parkas, jeans, underwear, socks, scarves,

Speaker 66 Blankets, lamps, trophies, marbles,

Speaker 67 phone books, additional water, loose peanut butter, pie, pie, pie, pie, pie!

Speaker 90 He pockets the underwear.

Speaker 10 Pocketing the underwear right out of the camera.

Speaker 26 God damn it, heaven.

Speaker 13 There's more to say about that. But first, then we go to the third of this hat trick is Fred's stenographer character, Alinda Nane.

Speaker 6 God

Speaker 6 crackers.

Speaker 76 Maybe it was Anne Golden era, Seth.

Speaker 13 I mean, it's an Anne Golden episode.

Speaker 39 Yeah, this is a killer, man.

Speaker 13 It made me laugh so hard. And again, it's like from a bygone era, this Fred character.
It's also the most Fred and James Anderson sketch.

Speaker 29 I think, was I asking you this, Seth?

Speaker 61 Because did he do another version of this, or did he do this character?

Speaker 13 This, I think, is the second one of these. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 That's what I thought.

Speaker 13 Because I remember there was one where he couldn't find his chapstick, and then another, this one time he can't find his crackers.

Speaker 57 Oh, god,

Speaker 13 I'm not we're not gonna watch all of it, but um, I would just like to watch just the beginning of this sketch because the fun of like the Fred reveal also takes his time.

Speaker 89 Thank you, Mrs. Shanklin, your witness.

Speaker 82 So, Mrs.

Speaker 45 Shanklin, on the night Mr.

Speaker 82 Green was murdered, you saw a suspicious vehicle.

Speaker 66 I did.

Speaker 82 Can you describe this vehicle?

Speaker 96 I remember it very clearly. It was a white Ford Escort with

Speaker 96 a dent in the driver's side door.

Speaker 15 That is good.

Speaker 13 I mean, it's like a sketch from, it's a sketch from 50 years ago.

Speaker 21 It's like, it's like...

Speaker 22 It would not have been out of place on your show of shows.

Speaker 15 No, yeah.

Speaker 58 Unbelievable.

Speaker 13 But it's like, it's too big for Carol Burnett.

Speaker 40 Yeah.

Speaker 13 And it's not, it's a completely different world, and there's no notes that have been given to any other performers to do anything differently.

Speaker 82 Is there any way you can type more quietly?

Speaker 91 It's not me, it's the machine.

Speaker 82 Why are you using a typewriter instead of a stenograph?

Speaker 91 I don't know how to do that.

Speaker 91 I'll be fine.

Speaker 6 I'll be fine.

Speaker 13 This is

Speaker 13 just, and then this part is something that my wife and I still say all the time. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 91 I can't find my crackers.

Speaker 91 I can't find my crackers.

Speaker 15 That's

Speaker 35 why I'm being in a sketch with Fred 101 without breaking.

Speaker 43 Do not make eye contact with him.

Speaker 49 Or you're done. Wow.

Speaker 13 Then there's this weird, like, just the most James writing that comes out of nowhere because you go and you address Keenan, the judge.

Speaker 13 And this also does not fit in the sketch at all, but it delights me.

Speaker 66 I'm scooping. Sorry.

Speaker 35 Your Honor, is there something we can do about the court stenographer?

Speaker 97 Do you have an issue with Linden?

Speaker 66 She's.

Speaker 82 I don't want to say that she's bad at her job, but she's typing what we're saying right now.

Speaker 97 Listen, no one is good at their job. I mean, you're not a good lawyer.

Speaker 66 I'm not a good judge.

Speaker 97 I mean, this jury doesn't look like they know what they're doing.

Speaker 66 But who cares?

Speaker 82 We're just figuring out if people go to jail or not.

Speaker 31 God damn it.

Speaker 19 We're just figuring out if people go to jail or not.

Speaker 13 Anyway, it's again, it's a perfect act. And now, like, you think at this point, there's nothing more you could ask about this show.

Speaker 61 Also, I want to say that we've come into, we're not living in this world, right?

Speaker 27 When you, when the response to somebody being terrible at their job is, listen, no one's good at their job.

Speaker 15 This is the world we're in.

Speaker 52 It's very, very ahead of its time.

Speaker 54 We've come all the way around to actually living in Linda's world.

Speaker 4 I mean, specifically, deciding if people go to jail.

Speaker 22 Prophetic. It was prophetic.

Speaker 4 Is there not a second closet organizer piece?

Speaker 13 Yeah, and we're going to watch it.

Speaker 4 I'm so sorry.

Speaker 13 It's,

Speaker 13 but this is, again, Seth, you had a plan and I fucked it. No,

Speaker 26 this was the exact plan.

Speaker 13 But at this point, again, this show does not need anything else to make it a perfect show. And yet, we have this coming.
Oh, man.

Speaker 43 And this is the 5-1.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 82 God damn it. I love them.

Speaker 13 John's sitting alone at a bar. Will enters.

Speaker 89 Gin and tonic, please. Yeah, gin and tonic on the way.

Speaker 66 Gin and Tonic.

Speaker 82 Hell of a drink.

Speaker 98 Yeah, I'm not gay.

Speaker 85 I'm not either, bro.

Speaker 84 Oh, cheers.

Speaker 82 Sorry. Just uh

Speaker 98 been a long day.

Speaker 82 None taken.

Speaker 98 Yeah, I didn't say no offense.

Speaker 85 None taken.

Speaker 13 That is the most forte and Solomon line.

Speaker 13 It's so frustrating. To have somebody say none taken

Speaker 13 without anybody saying no offense.

Speaker 1 It's like being in a a writer's room with a.

Speaker 13 There's more to come.

Speaker 82 You look familiar.

Speaker 66 Do I know you from somewhere? I don't know.

Speaker 84 Probably not.

Speaker 82 Where'd you go to high school?

Speaker 89 Salt Lake City. Pleasant Valley Beavers?

Speaker 6 No?

Speaker 35 I'm from Israel.

Speaker 66 Jerusalem Tigers.

Speaker 13 By the way,

Speaker 13 as a 10-to-1er, everything that's happened so far is perfectly fine.

Speaker 13 And again, at the table, when you're listening to this at the table, you're like, oh, this is one of those forte pieces.

Speaker 58 Yeah.

Speaker 13 That's going to be about two people talking weird, and I'm here for it.

Speaker 13 And it's going to be the use of language like we've never heard before and moves like that.

Speaker 26 But there's more, you know?

Speaker 89 Yes, not then.

Speaker 82 No, I know you from somewhere.

Speaker 66 Are you on TV?

Speaker 98 No, I'm on a bar stool.

Speaker 82 That's a really good joke.

Speaker 78 So, no, seriously, how do I know you?

Speaker 4 Wait a second.

Speaker 82 You're the freaking closet organizer guy, aren't you?

Speaker 66 Oh, my God, that's you, right?

Speaker 66 From the commercial, the blue suit.

Speaker 33 That's me.

Speaker 66 Yeah, your hair kind of threw me.

Speaker 79 I'm not wearing the hood.

Speaker 66 I can't believe I'm talking to the closet organizer now.

Speaker 78 I have a name, actually.

Speaker 26 Oh, God, I'm sorry. All right.

Speaker 13 Before we get to the names,

Speaker 13 Forte's performance as a guy who gets this all the time

Speaker 52 is just marvelous.

Speaker 4 And I gotta be, and I'm not just blowing smoke. I'm buying Ham's performance as well.

Speaker 79 Hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1 Can I just show? Yeah. This is my mom trying not to be seen.

Speaker 32 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 She's crawling on the floor, so she's not seen. Just get on here.
You know all these people.

Speaker 40 Hi.

Speaker 63 There's Seth and John Hammond.

Speaker 88 We're having an argument on whether Yorma's Nike sweatpants are 100% cotton, so I have to.

Speaker 40 What?

Speaker 10 I get it. I get it.

Speaker 63 We've all been there. Bye, Mom.

Speaker 5 Yep.

Speaker 28 We've all been in that exact situation hundreds of times.

Speaker 26 With Yorm.

Speaker 1 She's 74.

Speaker 11 She was crawling on the floor so she wouldn't be seen in the podcast.

Speaker 22 She's rubbing it in your face, how mobile she is.

Speaker 13 I like that even she can't believe we don't have video on our podcast.

Speaker 13 Yep. All right.
So John mentioned earlier, he alluded to the fact that we're about to hear two of the greatest sketch names of all time.

Speaker 31 Oh, God. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Tari. Tarky Fensington.

Speaker 78 Tarky.

Speaker 26 Resden Boner.

Speaker 33 It's a real honor.

Speaker 66 Real honor. Man.

Speaker 82 Now, I know you probably get this all the time, but

Speaker 82 would you mind

Speaker 66 doing a little bit for me?

Speaker 98 I don't know. I mean, I've.

Speaker 82 Oh, come on, please.

Speaker 66 Fine. Okay.

Speaker 66 Socks! Marbles!

Speaker 66 Pies!

Speaker 31 Pies! Pies!

Speaker 66 That's so awesome.

Speaker 67 Oh my God. Thank you.

Speaker 79 Oh, man.

Speaker 26 Hey, what are you doing right now?

Speaker 82 You want to head over to my place, maybe watch the office or something?

Speaker 31 I don't know.

Speaker 31 Oh, come on.

Speaker 66 It'll be fun. We could order pizza, drink some beer.
It'll be fun.

Speaker 67 Yeah, okay, maybe.

Speaker 82 Yeah, you know, play some video games, you know.

Speaker 48 Maybe after you could help me organize my closet.

Speaker 64 There it is.

Speaker 78 Thanks, Resin.

Speaker 80 What?

Speaker 89 I'm not going to help you organize your closet.

Speaker 31 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I was joking.

Speaker 89 Well, it wasn't funny.

Speaker 66 I'm sorry.

Speaker 89 Yeah, you are sorry.

Speaker 75 You don't know what it's like to be me, okay?

Speaker 89 Every time that someone tries to buy you a drink or wants to be your friend or wants to make love to you, you have to ask yourself, Are they doing this because you're Tarki Bensington

Speaker 89 or because you're

Speaker 66 ties, socks, marbles?

Speaker 98 I had no idea.

Speaker 67 Yeah.

Speaker 89 No, you didn't.

Speaker 78 Goodbye, Resden.

Speaker 89 I hope you died in it.

Speaker 66 Hey, was that the closet organizer guy?

Speaker 82 No, that was Tarky.

Speaker 67 Yeah, that was the closet.

Speaker 4 Tarky Benzi. I mean,

Speaker 13 I think in the same way, I do feel like this had the same fun of the end. of the curse, which is like the audience was so appreciative of the amount of structural integrity of these two things.

Speaker 77 There is a big laugh

Speaker 38 when it's revealed.

Speaker 13 And it's just such a, right, it's such an edifying laugh of like, oh.

Speaker 4 It's very fun when the show does things like this where it references itself within the episode.

Speaker 1 Sorry, is your last name, your name is Resden

Speaker 1 Boner?

Speaker 3 Is it spelled Boner?

Speaker 49 Like Boner with a U in it.

Speaker 32 Gotcha.

Speaker 23 Just clarifying.

Speaker 38 Great writing. The Jerusalem Tigers.

Speaker 13 We're wrapping it up, guys. This is good.

Speaker 13 Oh, I just want to say real quick: a little housekeeping.

Speaker 13 Kenward and Joast wrote the Weird L. I want to make sure Kenward also gets credit for that impenetrable sketch.

Speaker 4 Oh, the hey kids are heading down to Shea?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, nice.
Thank you for cleaning that up.

Speaker 13 A very nice note about the pod. Congrats on the enormity of your success.
Yorm and the gang, which is what my cousin calls this podcast for some reason.

Speaker 1 Guys, my character. my character has been rising through the ranks, guys.

Speaker 4 Oh my God, Yormhead.

Speaker 69 Andy,

Speaker 13 Andy, I'm wondering what you think about this comic because I think there's some truth to it.

Speaker 13 Keeve organizing a special screening of Way of Water, but also not remembering that Sigourney Weaver was in the first movie is a real distillation of Avatar's overall place in the culture.

Speaker 79 Oh, wow.

Speaker 13 I mean, I really think that really resonated with me.

Speaker 52 Really?

Speaker 4 I think a lot of people would agree with that.

Speaker 53 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I happen to not be one of them, but I can't deny anyone else's experience, of which I've been told about many.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Kiva not remembering that to me has been the biggest shock of this entire podcast that he didn't remember that.
And you know what? I want to say, guys,

Speaker 1 John, you've had such sticky characters.

Speaker 6 And

Speaker 18 boy.

Speaker 10 Okay, fine.

Speaker 3 No one wants to hear me.

Speaker 1 I'm the most popular character on the pod, guys.

Speaker 40 Now, it's fun being on Norman again, guys.

Speaker 62 I've been enjoying it.

Speaker 13 When Matt Weiner pitched it to you, was he like, this character is sticky.

Speaker 25 Sticky.

Speaker 76 You're going to want to be in this show.

Speaker 16 Johnny. Hey,

Speaker 13 the last thing I want to say that I've totally forgot was that

Speaker 13 when I was back at SNL, I was hanging out with the writers, and I was hanging out with a lot of the young writers.

Speaker 13 A bunch of them said this podcast was more helpful in telling them how the show worked than anything anybody at the show has told them.

Speaker 70 Is that true?

Speaker 70 Yep.

Speaker 80 All right.

Speaker 65 Well, hello, everyone.

Speaker 4 We love you. Yeah, we love you guys.

Speaker 13 Thanks for listening.

Speaker 4 Wait, Ham, we got you here. Anything else that you remember from that week? Anything you want to bless us with about your SNL experience?

Speaker 14 Other than just

Speaker 54 it was not the usual being terrified that you had no, because like you said, nobody really tells you what you're just supposed to follow along kind of blindly.

Speaker 60 So I at least had a template of what I kind of thought might happen. Yeah.

Speaker 49 And then I knew I was going to, I was happy that I was getting all the opportunities to do so many great sketches.

Speaker 39 And as everybody knows, like, you know, table is five hours long and it was a long table.

Speaker 62 It was jam-packed with awesome stuff and it was hard to pick the show um but it was so fun and it just it was great to come back and i it was so fun that i came back i think in the same calendar year which was even even more fun we try to get some more stuff did you hook up with anyone yeah do you hook up no um do you have do you have a crush on anyone in the cast andy you got me sick you got me all sick when we mouthed while while we're on the subject seth i still think it's out we never hooked up i do too i remember ham just kept saying he was too cold to hook up that week so don't he's like i'm just way too chilly.

Speaker 28 I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 Don't get on me. I'm too greasy.

Speaker 28 You're lovely. I'm just so chilly.

Speaker 5 Just hold me.

Speaker 44 I think that John and Will wrote that closet organizer, the last act of the closet organizer, as a comment on how difficult it was to be Don Draper in the world. That's all I'll say.

Speaker 22 You know, that's really right.

Speaker 10 That's the meta of it all.

Speaker 13 You'd been on the other side of that a lot of times.

Speaker 22 Yeah, it made sense to me.

Speaker 60 I got it.

Speaker 1 You got it.

Speaker 13 Your performance was based in reality yeah true experience i say this with no exaggeration uh john ham you are an a golden host from an a golden era i loved it it was so fun it's still fun only took me 15 years to get back on it but man it was fun that's nice it was fun it was fun when you went back oh my god you were a killer on it man

Speaker 13 uh but i think every every era of show has its like uh go-to hosts and we were so lucky that we overlapped with you well that's kind of you to say and seth you watched the last episode what was your least favorite sketch Of this whole episode?

Speaker 4 Of the last episode that just aired. Sabrina Carpenter.

Speaker 64 Least favorite sketch.

Speaker 30 Do tell.

Speaker 76 Now that we know all the writers are listening.

Speaker 4 You want to add this?

Speaker 3 We all know how hard it is to work there, but we don't fucking work there no more, dude. Let's shit on it, right?

Speaker 15 Dish.

Speaker 43 Do it. Just say it, and then we'll cut it out, and everyone will wonder what it was.

Speaker 58 Yeah, just bleep it, Seth.

Speaker 13 All right.

Speaker 52 Tell us.

Speaker 13 All right, let's get out of here. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Sorry. Andy, uh, theme song.

Speaker 83 Spelling bee.

Speaker 83 Spelling bee.

Speaker 13 Andy, uh, what'd you do on the bee today?

Speaker 4 I got motherfucking queen bee clean.

Speaker 18 All right.

Speaker 1 Thanks for listening, guys.

Speaker 13 I want you to hear this criticism. It's very stressful.
You and I share our bees every day. You're way better than me.

Speaker 13 And like when I tell you, and I'm honest with you, about the words I miss, you're always like, oh, fuck.

Speaker 53 You must be so fucking bummed.

Speaker 32 You're just not.

Speaker 13 You know what you are? You're Keeve about the curse with me about the B.

Speaker 4 No, but it's because I know you can do better.

Speaker 68 Is that Keeve too?

Speaker 64 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 56 Is that what he thinks when he says mean things?

Speaker 13 Anyway, congrats on the B. All right, let's try it one more time.

Speaker 20 So it's, you got clean bee is what you got.

Speaker 10 I got clean bee. I quit.

Speaker 18 Nice. Oh, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 13 And I missed Yawned. And what else did I miss? It was something else dumb.

Speaker 10 Oh, doomy. Doomy.

Speaker 7 Come on.

Speaker 51 Like the Belbe de Vo song?

Speaker 10 Yeah. Doomy.

Speaker 7 Baby.

Speaker 17 Wait,

Speaker 55 wait, was Motown Philly on it today?

Speaker 90 Yeah, it got into Webster's because those guys were so great.

Speaker 13 We've now entered Shaggy Tail.

Speaker 6 Ah, damn it.

Speaker 15 Oregon.

Speaker 16 Shaggy Tails in a Cannot Lie.

Speaker 10 I remember.

Speaker 13 All right. Love you guys.

Speaker 29 Love you guys.

Speaker 55 Love you, buddies.

Speaker 20 Later, Arnold. Later, Quaits.

Speaker 32 Son of a bitch stole my line.