PMS 2.0 1355 - LIVE From Cary, NC at TST with Wayne Gretzky, Johnny Damon, Chris Paul & Clint Dempsey

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to the Wake Lake Soccer Club in beautiful Kerry, North Carolina, the host of TST and our program that starts right now.

COCAF!

SC is 2-0 at this TST.

We have a team that is potentially going to win $1 million.

We aren't the only squad that's hoping to win TST.

There are an abundance of teams out here.

I just got a jersey from the West Ham United team.

Hell yeah.

No hammers, they say.

Dortmund was buying us beers last night.

They charged Ty 60 bucks yesterday for those same beers we had last night.

Seamus is obviously here.

Johnny Damon is here.

And the game that is going to be played behind us today,

Hope Solos team is here.

Solo FC will be taking on the Speedy Turtles as the women's TST kicks off today as the men's have their last game of the first round today.

Now, elimination games begin tomorrow, and our CONCAFA team has punched our ticket.

Tonight, though, we play Wrexham.

We're trying to get a number one seed so that we can take on a bumass number three seed from another group as we can continue to move on in this electrifying TST.

If you've never been, I would recommend you come.

If you're not a soccer fan, this is a style of soccer I think you would enjoy.

And if you are a soccer fan, there are legends walking all over the place around here.

Nani's here, obviously.

How about Ledesma, who's on our team?

Jeff Cameron, Brecht Shea, you're talking about legends everywhere.

Tony Miola is just strolling around.

The soccer community is represented in a beautiful way.

And Concafa is being very, very,

very dominant.

We got this guy right here, Ledesmia.

Absolute weapon.

Absolute weapon.

Filthy.

He played for Cincinnati last year against us, and he was doing shit.

Not that great of a team.

That was Chad Johnson's team, do you remember?

Not that great of a team, but he was a weapon.

So we reached out and said, hey, bud, we'd love for you to join our squad.

He's got along with everybody.

There's Derek Huffman.

He's an Arena League boy.

There is just an entire squad.

We're tighter than ever.

Here's Ruggles.

He is a problem.

Yeah.

Ruggles is a problem.

The porch run on the Stomner goal.

Back porch, Chad Porch, absolutely incredible.

He tried to give me a goal yesterday.

I put it into the woods.

200% on me.

Not the worst, miss.

There's Porch right there winning the game.

Foss with the pass to me.

Pass to Richie Costanzo.

Kid I grew up playing soccer with as a high schooler.

Back to me.

Over to Foss.

Wow.

Good save.

Good save.

Great save.

Great save.

Soon as I put that ball down the line right there, I think to myself, oh no, now I gotta run, which I did.

Back to Foss.

Mike Foss, senior vice president of ESPN, general manager of this Con CAFA team, a man who's put the entire squad together.

He and I...

Had an opportunity to create some magic with Richie Costanzo.

It was not to be had.

I would then blast the ball over the net so far just about 25 seconds later.

And in about a minute and 15, I got to the point of exhaustion where I almost vomited out there and was a part of three or four.

Here's Porch.

Maybe the best player in the whole tournament.

Gone.

Exit stadiums.

Great boot, though.

Place would have won bananas.

It has been fun down here, but it's not just Concafa and TST that has been electrifying.

The NHL Stanley Cup finals started last night.

With that being said, we have Wayne Gretzky joining us in about 12 minutes or so on FaceTime.

He is not in North Carolina.

He was in Edmonton last night.

The greatest hockey player of all time.

The great one joins us.

Last night, after the second period and the second intermission, he actually called exactly what Connor McDavid needed to do.

He said, this Florida Panthers defense is playing a Rick Talkett style.

Connor needs to get the puck on his stick.

He needs to go behind the net.

Then he needs to find somebody.

Third period, same exact thing happens.

Then they go to overtime.

McJesus does his thing.

Dry saddle knocks home a winner.

And the Oilers are up 1-0.

We will go through all these highlights.

We will chit-chat about this game.

And whenever you talk about the Stanley Cup finals, you think of electricity.

Last night, game one lived up to the hope.

Almost had a double overtime.

Stanley Cup final, game one, in a rematch between two teams that are clearly the best in the NHL.

We'll see what Wayne Gretzky has to say.

And then tonight, the NBA Finals start in Oklahoma City with the Thunder being a nine and a half-point favorite over the great

gritty

tough

Indiana Pacer team.

Now, this graphic is filthy.

Debone was in his bag, I believe, is what people would say.

Whenever you talk about not utilizing the luxury cap, it's like the first time two teams in a final since 2004 haven't spent over what the salary cap is, haven't bought their team.

These are two teams that have been built in similar fashion.

Second time in NBA Finals history that both teams had 25 or fewer wins three years ago.

These teams have built from the bottom, come all the way up to the top.

They play together, and it should be electrifying, just like the NHL Finals.

We're lucky to be talking about all of that.

We'll have Johnny Damon on the show today.

Obviously, his team, Drip FC, had a big win yesterday and last night.

He texted me and told me the fans have got on his side.

He said they're booing the refs, cheering for his team.

I can't wait to chit-chat with baseball legend Johnny Damon, especially with the MLB viewership up as much as it is.

We'll also be joined by Chris Paul.

Chris Paul, obviously, local dog from down here in North Carolina, Wake Forest Legend, which is right down the street, partial owner of TST.

We'll ask him about the NBA Finals.

And then we have Clint Dempsey, one of the greatest soccer players in the history of the United States, joining us in the second hour as well.

He's launching a new podcast.

Okay.

Whoa.

Don't want to give too much away.

Okay.

Good tease.

Good tease.

One half of the hammer.

Cowboys, AP Tone is here.

Tone, as you look at last night, did we expect an overtime game?

Did we expect expect that many goals and when we're looking ahead to this evening what is the bet or pocketbooks need to be yearning for as solo fc in the speedy turtles start right behind us yeah when you look at at last night at the line is and then as far as the book is concerned it was minus 120 uh for the oilers which is basically if you don't know betting is a coin flip for the game so you know as far as the game goes going to overtime not a huge surprise i think the the expectation for this series was to be a super close series as far as the goals were scored 3-3 at the the end of the OT.

I believe the over-under was 6.5, so it was right on point there.

So as far as the bookmakers go, it went exactly how they thought that was.

And then tonight, NBA Finals, 9.5 for the Thunder.

It is an absolute huge spread as far as the NBA Finals is concerned.

Thunder are minus 700 to win the series, but let's not forget.

Pacers, they go into Cleveland game one of this year.

Mott down 9.5.

It was same for the series, minus 700 against the Cavs, and they won game one.

Obviously, one game two, won the series.

So the Pacers are not, you know, they're not ashamed to be a minus nine and a half.

They are not afraid to win down nine and a half.

No, they were born being a nine and a half point underdog this year, especially with how they've been talked about or lack of conversation about them.

I mean, anytime a poll comes out and says, hey, you're superstar, most overrated guy in the title.

Yeah.

Tough.

Anytime you're not put on national television, even it's the playoffs, they had them on True TV.

They played iRobot over the Pacers and the Cleveland Cavaliers in the playoffs this year.

That was the number one seed seed in the Eastern Conference.

Cleveland Cavaliers had to feel disrespected.

The Indiana Pacers are just sitting there going, what about us?

What about us?

What about them?

They've become inevitable.

Let me give you some stats here.

This is from Hembo.

Shout out to Hembo.

Shout out.

No team has ever shot 55% from two and 40% from three in a single postseason entering the finals.

The Pacers are at 56% from two, 40% from three.

Okay.

That is an offensive juggernaut.

Tyrese Halliburton has scored 11 points in 135 career half-court matchups with Lou Dort as his primary defender.

That's not good.

No, lose a player.

The Dorture Chamber is what they call Lou Dort.

And Q Rich, I believe, said he'll be fascinated to see who Dejanot puts Lou Dort on.

Will you go on Pascal or will you go on Tyrese?

Because basically whoever he decides to take out of the game, this is Revis Island.

This is, see you later, you're done for the series.

In the last 40 years, Tyrese Halliburton is the only player to do both in a single postseason.

150 assists, five times more assists than turnovers.

He has 156 assists, 31 turnovers.

Wow, nobody's ever done it.

We'll talk to Chris Paul about that here in a matter of moments.

Turnovers this postseason.

The Thunder have 188.

Their opponents have 288.

That minus 100 margin is already 21 more than any team ever in the history of a postseason.

So you're talking about a dominant defense in this Oklahoma City Thunder, but they also take over on the offensive side.

It should be a great game.

Speaking of great games, Solo FC and the Speedy Turtles are getting after it behind us.

Beautiful setup here.

The toxic tables here at Boston Connor, at Ty Schmidt.

Ty, I see the Tyrese Halliburton showed on.

Is that an homage to what's going to come tonight or just public support?

I think a little.

Well, see,

I don't know if Oklahoma City is going to choke, but you could say quite a bit of public support.

You mentioned it.

I mean, they did this with the Knicks and Pacers series.

Everyone picking the Knicks.

Hey, there's no way the Pacers can win.

They did it with the Cavs series.

And the Pacers just keep winning.

And then, will and behold, we get to the finals and and it's the same thing.

Hey, why are we even playing?

You know, Oklahoma City is going to beat the hell out of these guys.

They have no chance.

All their players need to play perfectly, have the game of their lives.

So, the Pacers are battle-tested.

They're ready to go.

They understand.

They've been through this song and dance the last several rounds.

So, yeah, I'm very excited for tonight.

Coming off an unbelievable Stanley Cup finals game last night.

Sports.

Exactly.

We're in it now, boys.

TST happening.

Exactly.

We got Hope Solo in between the pipes behind us right now.

Sports are happening in a big way let's go to college football national champion super bowl champion rider cup winner all-time leading tackler for the green bay packers father of 10 AJ Hawk

great to see you AJ as people of North Carolina give you a resounding uh applause of approval obviously what have been your thoughts on what sports are doing right now tonight do you think it's going to be a nine and a half point spread game last night did you expect overtime tst did you expect it to be this electrifying where's aj hawk's brain on sports drag?

I'm at TST, so first off, TST, the Concafer boys are playing well.

I don't see how anyone scores on them.

You guys are still have not given up a goal yet this game.

The defense is off the charts.

The goalways are standing on their heads.

But hockey last night, are you kidding me?

From the jump, we had goals and then we had answers.

So me being somewhat of a casual hockey fan,

I loved it.

I was locked in all three quarters and overtime last night.

Three periods.

Three periods, yeah.

Three quarters.

It was actually four quarters.

Oh, yeah, it was.

It was four quarters.

Joining us now is the man who played four quarters of hockey a lot.

Yes.

A A guy, nine-time MVP.

I want to make sure I get these all right.

Four-time Stanley Cup champion.

A man who, at the time of his retirement, held 61 NHL records.

Now he's on TV, and he's not a hater.

He's not jaded with the new group.

Loves the sport, loves the players, loves the league.

Ladies and gentlemen, the great one, Wayne Gretzky.

How's everyone doing?

Wayne all, it is an honor to have you on the show.

Now, the people of North Carolina.

I'm so happy to be on it today, and what a great sports day.

You guys got it right.

Okay, Wayne, I'm happy to hear that.

I just want to let you know, though, that we are very thankful that you made time out of your life to join us.

We're massive hockey fans, and the fact that you're taking time out of your life to chit-chat with us, we are grateful.

Let's get to last night's game.

You know, after the second period, you got on air, and we assume this has happened on plenty of occasions this year and last year when you're on television.

But you say, hey, McDavid needs to to get the puck on his stick, needs to go around the net, then he needs to find somebody.

This Rick Talkett defense has obviously been a little bit cagey.

That's then next period he does that.

Do you think that whenever you see McDavid play, you see a lot of yourself?

Do you think whenever you watch McDavid play, do you think, like, man, this guy has the capability of taking over?

What are your thoughts with Connor McDavid being the guy that everybody talks about could be the next great one?

Wayno, yeah, I think we're past could it be.

Uh, there's no question he's the best player in hockey, He's an unselfish young man.

He loves playing in Edmonton.

He loves being the captain of the Oilers.

He wants desperately to win a Stanley Cup.

That's all he wants.

That's what he cares about the most right now.

And

good on him.

He's just been great for our game.

He's been great for the city of Edmonton.

And, you know, what a year.

He scored the winning goal at the Four Nations Cup in overtime.

He sets up the goal last night by dry sidel.

And let me tell you, I know it's a little bit difficult to see on TV, but live, it was a physical hockey game.

You had to be a man to play in that game last night.

Both teams played hearts out.

Tachuk's playing a little bit injured.

Reinhardt's playing a little bit injured, but they still put everything on the line.

And listen, it's hard to knock off the Stanley Cup champions.

It's one game.

It's four to seven.

I'm sure they're going to bounce back, but Edmonton has to keep home court advantage.

That's a must for the Edmonton Oilers to win the Stanley Cup.

Obviously, you played nine years, I think, eight years for the Edmonton Oilers at the beginning?

Ten, sorry.

Jeez.

I had one year in the WHA where I started in Indianapolis, and we were drawing 3,000 people a game, so they sold me.

Hey, we're thankful that you started your hockey career in Indianapolis, Indiana.

We should put that on a statue for sure.

Probably a statue of you there.

But Edmonton, all anybody talks about is how great the fans are, how great the barn is up there.

But obviously, no Canadian franchise has won the Stanley Cup in forever.

Is this the team to do it and if so why do you think that is the case well this is the team to do it one i don't think florida's played a team that's as physical as edmonton the speed of edmonton matches carolina but edmonton's a little more physical and when you get to three championship series in a row you're physically beat up and right now i hope florida can rebound but they've put their guts on the line the last three years and it's hard to get to the Stanley Cup finals and they play hard and they're led by guys like tachuk and barkov and reinhardt i expect them to bounce back but listen edmonton feels it the city that's all anybody talks about i was beside the arena yesterday and at 12 o'clock noon a band started playing i thought i was on columbus street in manhattan for a labor day parade or something it's crazy i love it but the people love it I love the shots outside the arenas.

Like, that feels like that happens in hockey more than any other sport.

And it is the entire city shows up there.

Let's talk about that Florida team before the boys have some questions for the great one.

You mentioned all the leaders of that team, and obviously they make the trade for Marshi.

And I know back in the day

there used to be goons on teams.

Okay, there used to be goons.

There's always been some, you know, little, yeah, little protectors, but there's always been a little greasy things that have happened in hockey.

Then goons come in there.

How do you feel about the Florida Panthers culture being like, hey, we're going to hit you.

There's going to be some shit.

And you just know that that's happening.

Do you think that is the right style?

Obviously it is, but do you think that is sustainable?

And do you think more teams are going to try to be like the Florida Panthers?

Absolutely.

We're copycat leagues, right?

Football, basketball, baseball, hockey.

Yeah, absolutely.

And I will tell you this.

Last year, Florida was a little bit more physical in that series than Edmonton.

Edmonton went out this year.

They got a little bit bigger.

They're more physical than they were last year.

And they got the key ingredient.

They got number 97.

He can be the difference maker.

But listen, in the old days, we had those protectors, right?

Now the TV is the protection for the players.

You used to be able to get guys behind the camera or behind the scenes and nobody would see it.

Now there's so many camera angles.

The league protects the players now, and that's how it's done.

I like it too.

And I like the fact that Bentman came out and was like, we just don't want this staged fighting.

We're okay with fighting.

We're not trying to get rid of what hockey is.

We just don't want this staged fighting.

So I think the game's evolving.

And obviously, numbers are up.

Last year, the NHL viewership was bigger than it's ever been.

I assume it's only going to continue because the superstars are playing so well.

A.J.

Hawk has a question for you, Wayne.

Oh.

Yeah, Wayne, did you, we see all these analytics and different things that teams have to where they can give you these shot charts on how Goalways can, whatever I guess they do well, whatever they stop, whatever they can't.

When you played, did you have a book on Goalways?

Did you have an idea going in on what this guy was going to do and how you were going to beat him?

Yeah, I think everyone has that sort of feeling and belief that the more you study and the more you prepare, the better off you're going to be.

But let me tell you this.

The game is so fast.

You can't tell me that guy knew exactly where he was shooting the puck because I couldn't shoot it exactly where I wanted to because the game's so fast.

And listen, you know, I heard you guys talking in the beginning of the show.

The game is better today.

These players, these athletes, they're better athletes.

They're bigger.

The equipment's better.

The ice that they play on is better.

So our game is just getting better each and every year.

And you look at guys like Barkov and McDavid and Dreisail and Reinhardt.

These guys are tremendous athletes.

They're superstars.

I mean, they're great people.

They sell the game.

They worry about our sport.

They want to excel.

And listen, I live in Florida.

What the Panthers have done, Vinnie Viola,

Bilzito, their organization, Paul Maurice, what they've done for hockey in Florida has just been truly amazing.

And on top of that, you look at Tampa Bay with John Cooper and his group winning Stanley Cups.

Hockey is growing leaps and browns in Florida.

And that was our problem over the last 50 years.

We were good in pockets, but now we're growing in Texas, California, Nevada, Florida.

And our game is expanding.

And kids are going to games saying, you know what?

I want to try to play this game.

It looks like it's fun.

And we're getting better athletes every year that are participating in playing hockey.

Don't you think, too, the fact that you guys are still like an old school style league?

Like we just talked about the fighting there.

Very rarely 2025, unless it's UFC, boxing, or slap fest, is anybody like, yeah, you should go fight somebody.

But in hockey, it's like a part of the sport.

It's like a self-government sport.

I appreciate that.

And I'll tell you one of the reasons why that's the case.

We're the one sport that carries around a lethal weapon, the hockey stick.

And the last thing you want to do is hit somebody with your stick.

So the natural thing is to drop your stick and drop your gloves, right?

And so if we didn't have fighting, there'd be a lot more stick work.

And I'm glad they're, listen, I always say to people, when they say to me, is fighting real real in hockey?

I said, well, if it wasn't, I would have been in more fights.

Trust me, it's real.

And these guys are tough.

And they're hard-nosed.

And listen,

they just want to win championships.

And you can't take silly penalties, though.

You know, you got to be smart when you do it.

And consequently, if you're not...

you know, you're going to penalize your hockey team.

Hockey is such a humble culture.

Very rarely do you hear any players speak out.

Very rarely do you get to hear any interviews or personality.

I think that's kind of growing now with the way you guys have been able to open folks up.

You, Biz, the TNT crew, obviously, Spit and Chiclets is doing a great job.

I think we're learning more about the players, but all the players are team-first guys, tough guys, and the sport is so hard.

I think everybody has to respect the work ethic.

I think it's hockey's only on the precipice of a massive, like, because I think there's a lot of football fans that'd be like, we like the way these guys operate.

They just got to get exposed to the sport.

You know what I mean, Wayne?

Yeah.

When I first went to LA, I said, the more people that we can have have come and see the sport and realize the art of our sport, it's physical, it's fast, you got to skate, you got to be unselfish, you got to play hard, you got to take a hit, give a hit.

And the more people we can get to view our sport, the faster and bigger it's going to grow.

And that's what the league has done.

And so when I came in, I was so lucky.

We had Brett Hall in St.

Louis and Eiserman in Detroit, Mario Lemieux in Pittsburgh, Mark Messi in New York.

Not only were they elite players and Hall of Famers, they knew what it took to sell the sport.

They were great with the media, they were great with charities, great with kids, and they were unreal hockey players.

So we've been lucky, we've been blessed that the people in our sport from Cordy Howe and Bobby Orr and Bobby Clark all the way down to now Crosby and Ovechkin, just two of the classiest sports athletes there are in the history of any sport.

And so we're lucky we got good culture in our game.

Yeah, let's talk about that culture a little bit more.

And you just mentioned all the heroes of the past and obviously the future and who's going to carry it.

You've never sounded jaded ever about the next generation.

You've never been a GOAT in everybody's eyes that has kind of weaponized that against the younger generation.

Why is that?

Is that just how hockey is?

Like you've shown up for Ovechkin.

I think you said something about your dad told you, hey, when somebody breaks your record, you should be the first person at this.

You were.

You went to two games.

You've never said anything bad about anybody.

Sidney Crosby comes in.

They're saying, hey, this could be the next Wayne Gretzky.

You never took that as a shot, seemingly always supported it.

Now with Conor McDavid, the same thing.

Why is that?

And why do you think it's so hard for some goats to kind of have a similar mindset?

I don't know.

I can't speak for other guys, but I'm really being honest.

I think our athletes today are better in every sport.

There's no question.

Now, do I think Michael Jordan was the greatest basketball player ever lived?

That's my opinion.

I'm not a basketball guru, but that's just my opinion, right?

Then you take Tiger Woods, you know, probably the best athlete we've ever seen in golf.

So it's progression, right?

And listen, these guys today, knowledge is such a great thing.

Remember those old commercials, but I lost my knowledge.

And we have so much more knowledge today just from physical fitness, nutrition, practice, coaching, the equipment, the equipment they wear today, the skates that they wear today.

When we wore skates, they were leather.

And if they got wet, they were five to ten pounds heavier.

It was just, it's not the same game.

It's a better game today, simple as that.

And so I'm happy for them.

Everything I have in my life is because of the NHL NHL and hockey.

Why would I sit down and want to be critical of the game that made my life?

I got to travel the world, meet some great people.

It's the greatest sport in the world to me, and I love it.

You're the greatest.

You are the greatest.

You guys had actual cement in your boots.

Yeah.

Yeah, you had actual cement.

No, no.

We would play on a Sunday night in Chicago.

6 a.m.

We'd be at the airport for a flight to Detroit, play that night in Detroit, but our equipment would still be wet because the trainers couldn't really hang it.

So you put your skates on at seven o'clock at night and they're about 10 pounds heavier.

That's the way it was though.

And you guys also,

and I don't know you, I don't think I've heard any stories about you, but if I know the hockey culture well, in between that Chicago and Detroit game, we also have to hammer some vodkas and some beers.

As well for team chemistry, it feels like that is a big thing in hockey.

You guys are very much a hangout together group.

Yeah, we're always together.

I mean, especially when you're playing, you know, it's 20 guys and you go to dinner together.

The teams that do that are more successful.

The teams that four guys go one place and three guys go another place, they're not a team.

It's, you look at the Edmonton guys, they're always together.

You look at the Florida group, they're together.

Tampa Bay, those teams are year after year successful.

There's no secret to why it is.

They'll go through a wall for each other, and you got to have that in our sport.

Yeah, I agree.

I think teams come together better around a keg than they do, Kale.

But who knows if the next generation will continue that on?

Got to have team chemistry.

It's the biggest deal.

Boston Bruins fan, who has quit on them.

I want to let you know that.

Connor has a question for you.

That's not true.

Congratulations to Marco Stern, new head coach for the Boston Bruins.

And I mean,

he's going to do a great job.

Wayno already mentioned Bobby Oris, one of the building blocks of the NHL, so he gets it.

Wayno, there's a clip, and you talked about, you know, kind of the growing, the growth of the game.

And obviously, they did the 24 7 series on hbo before they followed a bunch of guys last year with amazon i believe i think if uh kind of the more layman fan were to be able to see hockey players like yourself go up against other superstars it might help we have a clip of you just dusting i believe sugar ray leonard uh pele might might have been out there in a track meet and i i think most people aren't really sure that hockey players are athletes and then they off there wayne off right there holy shit wayne gress you might beat you same bolt in a hundred meter.

Do you think, how did this first of all happen?

And do you think most hockey players are fantastic athletes, but people don't really think about that and they just think.

Sidney Crosby threw a football for a million dollars at Big Night At

back in April for Pat.

And I feel like most people were blown away that a hockey player could even get their hands around a football.

Well, let me say this, first of all, it was a charity event for Bjorn Borg in 1982, and he asked me to to go and of course I was a huge Bjorn Borg fan and I said of course now there were six events

the other five I came last let me tell you

and I remember I said to my dad he was there with me I said I got to do well in the running because I grew up a runner I said I got to at least show that I'm somewhat of an athlete so I said okay And then I looked down and I saw Sugar A.

Leonard and Pele and I'm like, oh my God, I'm in the wrong event here.

I think I jumped before even that gun went off.

I was going no matter what.

But it was a wonderful event.

But let me tell you, most hockey Europeans are the Russians.

But in North America, a lot of our kids that grow up playing box, lacrosse, soccer, baseball,

and then they make hockey their priority at the age of 14, 15, 16.

So there is a lot of great athletes who play in the National Hockey League.

Trust me.

A lot of them.

I see guys that go to batting practice and guys are hitting home runs, whether it's in Detroit or Anaheim.

It's pretty remarkable.

And of course, we got so many guys that are good golfers.

Everybody, every time I play golf, and my son-in-law is one of the greatest players ever in two major winners.

And people go, what's wrong with you?

How come you're not a good golfer?

Do you suck at golf, Wayne?

No way.

Oh, I'm not very good.

So I would tell you this.

Compared to Dustin, hold on, though.

Compared to Dustin or like compared to

you.

Compared to you, I'm bad.

No, I'm ass, Wayne.

I am a bad golfer, brother.

So I always tell people, they go, what hand did you shoot in hockey?

I said, left-handed and play golf right-handed.

How come you play right-handed?

I said, well, at 16, I went to buy a set of golf clubs.

My dad said, you know, you should learn how to golf.

The hockey players have charity events and you don't want to embarrass yourself.

So I went to buy a set of clubs.

And the guy said, we only sell right-handed clubs.

They didn't sell left-handed clubs in those days in Canada.

Oh, man.

Thankfully.

Yeah.

So I, so somebody said, well, why don't you switch?

And I said, well, I got all these free clubs.

I'm not switching over to left-handed stuff.

I'm staying the way I am.

So, no, no, but it all changed when Phil Mickelson came along and Mike Weir.

I don't know if you saw this, but Mike Weir, when he won the masters, he had a handwritten letter from Jack Nicholas that he wrote to Jack Nichols and said, I'm a left-handed kid.

I play left-handed.

Should I stay left-handed or switch to right?

And Jack Nicholas wrote him back, handwritten, young man, you stay left-handed if that's what you're comfortable with.

And he became the first Canadian to win a major, which was remarkable.

Okay, so let's talk about that.

You still golf, righty?

Yeah, and I'm still bad.

Wayne, I think I know the problem.

I think you're supposed to be looking this way.

I think you're supposed to be looking this way, brother.

Not even a putt?

Not even putting?

Feels like that is.

I tried putting left-handed for two years because Mike said to me, Wayne, try putting left-handed.

Well, I got worse every day, so I said, I'm going back right-handed.

Golf is so hard, dude.

Oh, my God.

You got to practice.

Like any other sport, you got to practice.

I don't practice.

How do you expect to be good?

People go deep.

Are you competitive golf?

Michael Jordan's so competitive.

I said, competitive?

I know I'm no good, so why worry about it?

If I hit a bad shot, hit a bad shot.

Yeah, and then I'll pick it up.

I'm going golfing with Darren Pang today here in Edmonton, so it'll be fun.

Okay, you're going to go.

I think you're going to go scratch today, Wayne.

Real low.

Yeah, I think you're going to go real low.

Panger's about 5'6 and 125 pounds, and he's...

He's doing a lot of golfing, though, just like like we don't get to practice enough wayne we're working

yeah we don't have time just to be on the golf you should play lefty today

i'm gonna try a few shots left-handed today if we could get that on camera we'd appreciate it because everything i know about sports i'll get biz to tape it and send it to you guys perfect perfect that feels because it feels like you should be a left uh Wayne, I don't even know, I don't want to say anything disparaging about you.

I'm glad.

This is my problem.

I'm reaching out for you, to you for golf tips.

Bingo.

Bingo.

If I was Wayne Gretzky, though, though, I

mean, I'm look, I'm fucking doing, aren't you doing this?

Is this like your thing?

This is literally.

I played Pebble for five years with Jake Owen, myself, Jordan Speet, and Dustin.

I had the greatest group.

Jordan and Dustin, and Jake, so wonderful to me.

But they draw the biggest crowd, those two guys.

There's 25,000 people on every hole.

And I'm shaking like a leaf.

And they're going, you didn't get nervous playing hockey.

I said, I could play hockey in front of a million people.

I wouldn't even know they were there.

But to play golf, you know how it is when you go to the first tee and everybody's in the clubhouse watching you?

Yes.

And you're like, oh, I don't want to hit a bad shot.

Well, try to have 25,000 people down the fairways and you're hitting the ball.

You're Wayneo!

I'm telling you, Wayne, you're going love me.

I think I have a record for the most people hit in playing in pro-am tournaments.

I played with President Ford one time in 1980.

I was a kid, Palm Desert, and I was so nervous standing on the tee, right?

First shot I hit, I sliced it into these trees, and all of a sudden we heard a thud.

And I go, what's that?

And the president said, that's one of my secret service guys.

Usually I hit them.

Ah, that is amazing.

I love to hear that you love the game of golf and suck at it because I do too.

If Wayne Gretzky sticks at it, that makes me feel a lot better about myself.

My wife, Janet, is a great athlete.

She's a better golfer than I am, and she's more committed to it.

We play a lot.

And yeah, yeah, she's she loves it, and she trust me, she's a better person.

If you're playing partners, you would take her, not me.

No, we're gonna have some beers with Wayne Gretzky, and we're not trying to win.

I stink at golf.

You gotta remember that.

You just talked about how people say, Hey, are you competitive at golf?

Michael Jordan's competitive at golf.

You rattled off a couple others earlier.

Tiger Woods.

I assume we could put Phelps into that conversation in the sports world.

Tom Brady, Peyton Manning.

I don't know who.

Do you guys have a group text?

Because you guys are like rare air.

No, but Michael and I played in this charity event for TNT last year and we were both so nervous on the first hole you'd think we'd never been in any kind of a sporting event ever before we were so nervous so what do you guys like why do you think have you ever done any um it's gonna be a deep question way not coming straight off of you sucking a golf combo do you have you looked back and wondered why You were so much better than everybody else?

I wasn't better than everyone else, but I'll tell you what I did.

My preparation, and I had respect for every player I played with, and I had respect for every player I played against.

And I have nothing but good thoughts.

You know, the guys I played with, guys like Mark Messier and Paul Coffey and Luke Robotai,

Brad Hall, incredible people.

And then I played against guys like Brian Traci and Dennis Potman who played physically hard and they were hard to play against.

But when it's all said and done, we're all here for the same reason.

We love the game and that's what it's all about right and you're here to try to win championships and practice is everything and i if i tell parents i get people come up to me and they'll say will you tell my son how many hours a day you used to practice at nine and ten and eleven and i would say listen i didn't practice that's what i loved doing i'd skate for eight hours because i loved it Bobby Orr, same thing.

Gordy Howe, same thing.

We didn't think we were practicing.

If you think that at the age of 10, you're going to have a long, miserable run of it, right?

So I always say, listen, just go enjoy the sport.

And the more you enjoy it, the more you

want to get better and the more you're going to want to love it.

And that's the way I look at it.

Yeah, because if you're considering a practice, it's almost like it's work.

And if you're viewing it as work already as a child, as opposed to just something you want to spend your time doing, you're probably not going to sign up for it for the long level that you're going to need.

Yeah, Mark Messi had one of the great quotes years ago.

Somebody asked him, is there anything about hockey that you don't like?

And he thought about it for a second.

He goes, there's not one thing I don't like about it.

I love being with the guys.

I love being on the bus with the guys.

I loved hanging out with the guys.

I love going to hard practices.

I love going to great practices.

I loved it when we lost, had a tough loss and we were all together.

There wasn't one thing that we didn't love about it, right?

And that makes it special.

Yeah, that's what it's about.

That is what it's about.

That's what it's about.

My wife always says I say sorry wrong.

So

Ty has a question for you.

Great one.

Yeah, Wayne, speaking of

golf and everything like that, there's been a lot of discussion lately, mostly from, you know, Biz, he kind of started it about how a lot of these teams who are in states with no state income tax are going to have a massive advantage moving forward because not only are a lot of them warm weather and guys can go there and play golf and kind of enjoy themselves, but you're obviously not forfeiting a bunch of that money like, you know, some of the places in Canada or California or New York or wherever the case may be.

Do you think a lot of those teams that that are in those situations are going to be inherently better or have an advantage moving forward over the next couple years?

Well, let me say two things.

Obviously, Florida and Tampa Bay is a unique situation, Dallas, Vegas.

From a financial point of view, if that's what a player is thinking about, obviously.

But if a player's thinking, you know what, I want to play in a hockey culture.

Like playing and living in the city of Edmonton, I loved it.

For 10 years I was here.

And the culture and the mindset of the people.

So it's a different feeling when you leave the arena in Florida after a game or leave the arena in Tampa Bay.

But you leave the arena in Edmonton.

You know you've been in a hockey game and you know there's 1.5 million people who live here and 1.3 million have watched that game and the other 200,000, the only reason they didn't is because they were working.

So, you know, it's what you want to do as a player, how you want to approach this.

Look, do I want to go to where everything is hockey or do I want to go to a place where financially it might be a little bit better for me now the good news is Tampa Bay and Florida are great organizations and they have a chance to win every year so that's a business decision that a player has to make

Wayno is Florida going to be the state of hockey forever oh absolutely it's growing leaps and bounds I'm so proud of people who Done such a great job the Tampa Bay organization Florida more and more kids are playing I see it I live there so I see it and it's just just going to grow leaps and bounds.

I think it's going to get bigger every single year.

And the thing is now, we're attracting great American athletes into our sport.

We're the guys who used to say, I'm a baseball player or a football player.

A lot of those great athletes at 10, 11, 12 now are going, you know, I really enjoy playing hockey.

This is great.

Yeah, and I'm going to be a lefty on the ice, and then I'm going to golf righty.

Yeah.

Yeah, you're by left-handed clubs now.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Hey, thank you so much for the time.

And thank you for the time.

Hey, I love you so.

And thank you guys so much.

And keep going.

I love the fact that you guys promote hockey.

Like I said, everything I have in my life is because of hockey.

So congratulations to you all and have a great day.

Well, thank you so much for that, for being kind, being a professional, being the great one.

But also, thank you for doing television as the GOAT.

I think there's a chance that because you did that, now Michael Jordan's getting into TV.

It's good to hear from the GOATs.

Legit.

I don't know if you saw it last night, but the guys were calling me GOAT.

And right now, we're calling Biz Gout because he's got gout.

You're the man.

That's Wayne Gretzky.

That's what it's about.

That is what it's about.

And I'm sorry to everybody else that does the hockey.

If one panel has Wayne Gretzky on it, they're probably going to have a little bit of a head start.

That's just like when Nick Sabin was at the College Game Day.

It's like, sorry.

to anybody else doing sorry doing anything else it's like nick sabin's words are going to matter and if you're good at it and if you're like humble and you enjoy the process of doing television and talk about your sport, you can give back to your sport in such a big way, which I think is what Wayne has done over the last two years being on TV.

Having Wayne Gretzky promote the game is great for the game.

You know, some of these goats stay away for whatever reason.

They're jaded and I talk to him about hating the younger generation or not liking the current game or maybe people are getting compared to them so they get a little self-conscious on what they're about.

It's like he doesn't seem to care at all and everybody has the same opinion about him.

It's good for hockey.

He's doing TV.

It's unbelievable for hockey.

You couldn't have a better ambassador for the game.

I mean, the great one, the greatest of all time.

And the fact that he says the game is better now than it was when I played.

The athletes are better.

Like, yeah, what a.

Hopefully Michael Jordan becomes the Wayne Gretzky of Basketball Broadcasting.

We're all of a sudden here.

And he gives us that perspective.

I believe Solo FC is up two zip behind us.

Hope Solo played the first half in goal.

She pitched a shutout.

Her team can run.

Oh, yeah.

I was watching.

Yeah, good play.

Her team can move.

Yeah, Solo FC is a good squad.

Austin Rise is here.

I think they have a lot of really good players.

The U.S.

women's national team has a team.

They have Carly Lloyd on their team.

They won last year.

Okay, yeah, they are very good.

So I think there's a lot of good quality suka coming out of here at Carrie.

There are some teams that are ass.

Yeah, certainly.

Some teams that are ass.

That's going to happen.

Played two of them so far.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

We made them look that way.

We made them look that way.

That's what I mean.

Joining us now is a man who put a team together that is not as.

No, no.

They are great just like this man was.

I'm going to rattle off all of his things.

Two-time World Series champion.

First, on this particular sheet, says Boston Red Sox legend.

Well, of course.

But there are also people who say he is a New York Yankees legend.

Oh, yeah.

And also a Kansas City Royals legend.

And also a.

An Oakland A's legend.

And also a Detroit Tigers legend.

And also a

band.

Well, that too.

Ladies and gentlemen, Johnny Damon.

Yay!

How are you guys doing?

Fantastic.

Good to meet you here.

How are you doing, Johnny?

Fantastic.

What's up?

Great seeing you, my man, too, brother.

Thank you for making this happen.

Oh, thank you for making it happen.

I got the headset, John.

I know that.

Oh, Drip F C.

Oh.

Yes, sir.

Hey, I appreciate you, dude.

Hi, thank you, man.

Sorry, Johnny.

No World Series with the Yankees.

I know.

Hey, so they're back.

You gotta put the mic down.

It's on the left side.

Oh, I got it.

Yeah, there you go.

I don't do this much.

Here, Here,

let me put this behind you.

Look at this random

professional.

All right, you are a pro.

No, I'm not.

Not like you.

Did you hear the little bickering that happened here?

Because Boston Conner, obviously, a big Red Sox fan, calls you a Boston legend.

Ty over there, massive New York Yankees fan, says New York Yankees legend.

Just won a World Series with the New York Yankees.

When you look back at your career, the fact that you're beloved on both sides of the biggest rivalry in the sport, what do you think that means or says about the sport and you as a player?

Well, the great thing is I've been loved and hated everywhere.

So

I went about my business the right way.

Played the game.

Hustle.

That's the only thing you can really control in baseball is hustle.

Like your best win can turn into a out.

Your bats win can turn into a basis clearing double.

So

you have to take the ups with the downs.

I always did.

I was always a fan favorite because I learned from Cal Ripken.

He signed an autograph for me when I was 10 years old at Tinker Field.

So I understood the fan aspect of it.

So I continue it to this day.

A bunch of these people love me out here.

Hell yeah.

I'm part of Drip FC.

Hell yeah.

And my team is showing up.

They're balling out.

And we had a great game last night.

You know, unfortunately, things didn't go our way.

Oh, you lost?

Oh, no.

What'd you do?

No, of course.

No, we didn't lose.

We won.

We won.

Our team balled out.

Check out the replay.

What do you guys now?

What do you guys now?

One and one?

We have the replay, actually.

We have the replay here.

This is my first time seeing it.

Drip FC.

That's the replay from the first game.

And they tore this down

yesterday.

Yeah, we appreciated them coming over here.

Last night, we do not have the replay of last night.

What happened?

You guys got screwed?

I want you to check it out.

Please.

You sent me a text.

You sent me a positive text, so I thought you guys won.

Oh, no.

No.

We won personally.

Our team, we're a great team, and we're still in it.

We're going to keep on rocking.

We're going to keep on bringing our A game.

A little controversy, maybe, with the Drink FC game last night.

Take a look.

Okay, we certainly will.

I saw the clip you sent me of you playing some soccer, scoring a goal.

Are you coaching the team, general manager of the team, owner of the team?

What is the title you have?

I sponsor the team with my drinkagame.com.

We are a healthy alternative to what's out there.

No artificial

anything.

No forever chemicals.

Yeah, so we are good.

Hydration is good.

Intended to rock it.

Yeah, we got Gary Brecca.

We got Tyler Adams.

Bo Jackson's been with the team for a while.

So yeah, we're ready to rock and roll.

Okay, you just brought up Bo Jackson.

How closely do you pay attention to current baseball?

I started to pay more attention because I have eight kids.

Was that eight kids?

I have four kids.

Four kids.

Okay, I heard 10 earlier.

He does have 10 kids.

They're all over the place.

You have eight kids?

Yeah, man.

Irresistible, and I just have to be a gun, right?

obviously okay so you've been paying attention more the mlb viewership is up 10 uh on both networks fox and espn feels like it's because the superstars are playing well is that what you agree with like baseball is good when it's superstars like you are playing well and the teams that everybody wants to see are playing well do you think that's why they're having success absolutely there is so much talent out there and everyone asked me who i root for and i i root for the back of the jersey like i'm always going to root for aaron judge i love the way durant plays for the red socks socks it reminds me of uh yup young

games

yeah yeah no kids there's so much talent out there and uh shohe

wow fun right

yeah it's fun to watch as an ex-baseball player what he's doing can you especially if he gets in and pitches this year which i guess there is a chance when he was starting his career with the angels and he was pitching and hitting we were talking about him as people that don't know baseball that well as like holy shit we got an alien here why is it so abnormal and what are your thoughts on shohe well because you do have to concentrate on something and Shohei hasn't pitched in a while.

I think he could be very successful but stepping back to the mound after taking a year and a half off, it's tough.

I think he can do it, but for how long?

I mean Babe Ruth was the epitome of

greatness and in our day we had the Brooks Keachnick with the Cubs who could do it, but They just didn't want to take away the best part of a player's game.

It's kind of like Travis Hunter right now.

What's he going to do?

Shohei, it's the greatest hitter going right now with Aaron Judge.

And why take that away from him?

There's a lot of stress that goes on to being a pitcher.

You give up a couple runs, and now you have to go hit.

I think it's very tough.

We did it in the little league.

He's doing it in the big leagues.

Okay, so I appreciate you saying that.

Ty Schmitz, our baseball aficionado.

He's been basically saying the same thing, although it would be sweet to see Shohei do both.

Go ahead, Ty.

Yeah, actually, I wanted to ask you about the Savannah Bananas experience that you had.

Yeah.

Because, you know, like, as I won't say that I dislike it because I don't, but as someone who's like a die-hard baseball fan, like, I would much rather watch the Yankees, you know, than obviously, you know, what they do with the kids and everything and then 80,000 to 100,000 people going to the stadium to do it.

But how cool was that experience as a whole?

And are you surprised that

they've had the kind of success that they had?

Because, I mean, it is crazy.

They're selling out football stadiums, and those guys can still play.

It's not just like a Mickey Mouse, you know, hey, show up at the ballpark, and these guys are going to kick it around, Harlem Globe Trotters type thing.

So, what did you think of the whole experience?

I thought it was so amazing that I decided to go out three times.

And I didn't go out last year.

My last at-bat, I got a base hit.

We won the inning.

We celebrated.

The guys got me on the dugout.

We took our shirts off, and I forgot to shave my chest.

But yeah, I kind of forget you can't step out of the

but it was so fun.

I'm so happy what they're doing because they can probably sell out the Oakland Coliseum more so than the A's did.

Yeah, so it's

I love it.

It's fun.

It gets the kids into baseball.

And when you see the game, it's fun.

I mean, Ken Griffey Jr.

made the, with his smile, he made.

Yeah.

Every

he was the kid and everybody loved it.

I played the game.

I loved it.

I understood the ups and downs.

And

as I always mentioned, you got to bring it every single day.

You got to bring your A game and your best may not get it done sometimes.

So you have to keep plugging away.

The pitcher, he's trying to make a living too.

So he's trying to take it from you.

And you're trying to get it.

How many games do you guys play in a season?

It's 162, but if you count spring training and the playoffs all the way to the World Series, it's about 210 games in about 235 days.

Rock stars.

Just living on the road.

I don't know how you do it.

I don't know how you stay focused.

I don't know how you keep your body together.

I don't know how you don't get incredibly lonely on the road.

I don't know.

The mental battle of MLB player is huge alongside the physical battle, obviously.

And you're failing a lot.

And there's a lot of droughts that come with that.

And they have the mental toughness to stay positive.

Wonderful.

I think that's the most important thing that baseball players have.

AJ has a question for you, Johnny.

Yeah, John, I know you played for almost 20 years.

I I just wonder in the clubhouse, how did that clubhouse change from, say, your first year in the bigs till your last year?

I've talked to some guys that maybe played 15, 20 years, and they were just the drastic difference from when they first got into the majors till the end.

Just how guys kind of carried themselves, took care of their body, all of that.

How did that change for you?

Oh, it changed drastically because I got called up from AA in 1995, never had a big league spring training.

So I show up and the Royals release Vince Coleman, like one of my childhood heroes.

And I'm like, I'm walking into this clubhouse and my childhood hero is leaving.

So I never had an experience of the six weeks of spring training at the big league level.

And then there's some growing pains.

You know, they love to do the

righty, lefty.

If a lefty's pitching, you might not be playing.

But I've always hit lefties well, so you kind of had to understand that.

But I learned how to play winning baseball when I got traded to Oakland.

Like Kansas City was great.

We had the best offense in the league for about three straight years, but we didn't have pitching at the time.

I had Mike Sweeney, Jermaine Dye, Joe Randa.

I mean, we got after it.

Carlos Beltron.

And then

I had too good of a Yissen Giambi and learned how to play winning baseball, learned how to have fun on and off the field, and we got after it.

We won 102 games.

Seattle won 116 that year, but we had Moe, Zito, Hudson.

But at the end, I became like a father figure to a bunch of these guys because I'm hanging out with the parents after the game and not the players.

When I joined Tampa, I was like, wow, this is a little strange.

My wife and I were like, all the kids wanted to go back to the room and play their games, and we wanted to go relax, have a good time.

Yeah, we started hanging out with the parents.

I love that.

And especially if you're an OG and does it the right way, which it sounds like you did.

Did you drink urine?

No, never drink urine.

Oh, that's what he did.

Sure.

Yeah, no, never.

That's what he did to stay in.

Good mood.

No, no.

Do you know anyone that did?

I never did that.

That was Voices Soul.

There could be rumors, but no, never drink it.

No.

What about peeing on your hands, callous fruit?

Callous.

Sticky.

Dude for callous.

Sticks in hearts of stay.

Was Voices Lou the only one to do that in the league?

Or was there a lot of guys peeing on their hands?

You guys peeed on your hands?

Kevin?

Is that something baseball does?

Yeah, who peed on your hands?

We know we talked about it.

If anyone's going to do it, it's my wife.

That's the right but we're we're not that way so you guys have so many of those like rituals and stuff because of how long the season is yeah and every movie we've seen about baseball there's some absurdly ridiculous routine that takes place or ritual that happens before games then we start learning about stuff that you guys are doing it's like hey the baseball guy is kind of freaky over there yeah the golden thong when you went into a slump um hell yeah we uh

shared it in the clubhouse so slumps didn't last too long yeah hey listen let me give my ass cheek some uh floss here and then we'll get out of this quickly Tone has a question for you, John.

Yeah, Johnny, these two were arguing, but like out in public, do more people come out to you about the game seven with the Red Sox or the 09 Yankees World Series run?

Man, it's both.

I mean,

I was a love player.

I'm a legend everywhere, bro.

Well, I was a fan favorite everywhere.

It kind of depends.

So when I go to New York, yeah, I wear the New York ring.

When I go to Boston, I go to Boston.

Yeah, I don't want to get into any trouble.

I want to go about my life, but I do do flash both rings at certain times, and it's a cool feeling because it's only Babe Ruth and I who were starters who won for both teams.

So I'm in great company, and I'm, you know, the Yankees need to figure it out.

But the Dodgers are the best team out there.

They're so deep.

They're saying New York is the Mets town now.

No.

No, I'm children.

No, not yet.

No,

it's early.

It's early.

No, they paid Juan Soto 750 million bucks.

Oh, they can afford it.

And they could give him a sweep.

But

the Yankees added like five or six players who made the team better.

So I think they have a stronger run against the Dodgers this year.

But the Dodgers are so deep.

And Kiki Hernandez, what a great baseball player he is.

He can play every position.

And he has fun playing the game.

He became one of my favorites.

I root for the back of the jersey.

And he's doing great.

Connor roots for the Red Sox.

Yeah, no doubt about it.

And Johnny, someone asked me earlier, like, is there bad blood between them because he was Yankees?

I'm sure there was in the time.

I think most people can agree.

Any player who reversed the curse on that team is kind of good for life.

So thank you for all that.

But big conversation in baseball this offseason so far.

Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe kind of now being okay to go into the Hall of Fame.

How do baseball players feel about those two guys?

Pete Rose, I think Jeff Pazon said it.

You can't really tell the story of baseball without Pete Rose.

Do players want him in the Hall of Fame?

Is that how most of the players feel about guys who might have made some questionable decisions, or is the gambling kind of separate from the steroids era, would you say?

Yeah, well, I think it's about time.

I mean, it's been forever.

They had to wait for him to pass to figure this out.

But I was with Shudas Joe Jackson the other day, DB Sweetie, down in Mexico, and we had a great time.

But yeah, Shudas Joe, like the gambling incident, gambling is all over the sport right now.

And if you're going to let the fans

gamble, I mean, we all played fantasy football.

We're not gambling on the team.

And if Pete Rose gambled on his team to win,

I love my manager to say, we're going to win.

I'm going to make money.

We're going to win.

But,

I mean.

Let bygones be bygones.

I mean, there's so many things going on.

I mean, we had the Otani incident, whereas

if this guy

just sweeping under the rug right now.

I know there's a lot of bigger issues in our world that we need to take care of.

And even the steroid issue.

I was against it back in the day because I was a guy who was always accused of it because I was a beast.

And now you're seeing these guys.

Like I hope to see Barry Bonds get into the Hall of Fame.

He never got busted, you know?

Yeah.

His hat size, they say, is that we can see it.

Well, when we get older, I mean, everything grows.

Like our birth, everything grows.

Everything, yeah, everything.

Yeah,

Barry Bonds was like the best player.

That if you ask my era, who was the best?

Barry Bonds' name is first on the list.

Also, Roger Clements.

Yeah.

He never got busted.

He had someone try to tell on him, but Roger Clemens,

amazing.

Hold on,

I have a question for you.

During that era, when it was happening, the summer of baseball or whatever.

Summer of Slam.

When Sammy Sosa and Mark McGuire were doing their things.

Safe baseball.

What's that?

Safe baseball.

I think so, too.

Biggest ratings of all time.

Biggest ratings of all time.

We were all very interested.

You were during that era.

Now,

the way I view it from outside looking in is that steroids was just very available.

No.

No, like I've never seen anyone take away.

Nobody talked about it in a locker room.

No.

Well, especially me, because I wasn't part of it, but I don't know what they talk behind closed doors.

Because like in the NFL locker room, nobody brings it up.

Nobody talks about it.

Yeah, no one talks about it in the big league.

Back then, whenever that was all happening, it wasn't just like an open, like, hey, if you need some old

the baboon who's over here, he can help.

It wasn't like that.

It wasn't that lacksadaisical.

It was that lack of days ago.

And it's grown men making decisions on their life.

Let them decide what they want to do.

Let them

get better.

I didn't...

have to get better, but I found out towards the end of my career, the guys who were getting popped, they were getting four or five-year contracts because they cared so much about what they were doing so i'm like hey have at it do do what you want yeah but that felt good for you looking in the mirror being like

these fuckers are using fool pharmacies keep up with me we're about to hit a hard out and uh i just want to say thank you so much for making time absolutely i think you also follow the show is what i've been told yes i do follow the show and uh that's everyone follow the game tonight my guys at drip fc they're bringing their a game and we're we're here yeah you guys gotta win

You guys gotta win.

Yeah, especially after the loss last night.

Yeah, yeah, check it out.

Big L last night, Johnny.

Yeah, I was a score.

I don't consider it.

It was five to three, but our boys bowled out.

Check out the

teacher guys by two, husband.

So I didn't, this wasn't a one?

Yeah, check it out.

We actually

check it out.

We had some goals taken away from us.

We had a few things happening.

Oh, they're against you.

They're working against you.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, we're facing a tough team, you know, and

we're facing a

bigger drink company right now.

And we're coming out.

We're doing our A-game, you know.

So it's a good idea.

All right, yes.

We're going into a hard out.

We'll be back in the next hour.

Chris Paul will join us.

Clint Dempsey will join us.

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is obviously the team that we are here representing and the team that we are proud of and a team that is potentially going to win $1 million at this TST.

Right now, Hope Solo's team is taking on the Speedy Turtles right behind us.

They are currently up 3-0, but let's remember that no game can end without a walk-off goal happening in target score time.

This is an electrifying style of soccer.

We're lucky to be here.

This Kerry, North Carolina, Wake Med Soccer Park is one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen constructed.

There's been some rain today.

There's going to be some lightning later.

but this grass will remain impeccable and the setup and the facilities are remarkable.

Shout out to Kerry, North North Carolina.

Shout out to the TST folks.

And shout out to Concafa Soccer Club potentially going on a run this year.

The boys are buzzing.

We're undefeated.

We've got a game against Wrexham.

As you know, that is Mr.

Reynolds and McElhaney's team that there was an entire documentary about.

This is not their professional team, but I believe this is some ex-players from Wrexham that are here.

They're a good squad.

They'll be our best challenge.

That game is taking place at 5.30 Eastern this afternoon.

Cannot wait to see how the boys respond after a great day one of TST.

Now, I'm not alone up here.

No, one half of the hammer.

Don't Cowboys AP Tone is here.

The Toxic Table is here at Ty Schmidt and at Boston Connor.

Then there's a man who's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Rodder Cup winner, and a father of 10.

Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawker.

Hawker, the legs look good, bud.

You've been squatting every morning.

Huh?

I like you showcasing the calves.

There's some big-ass calves.

No, not every morning, but I did see a grella in the weight room the other day.

He's out there grinding away, getting ready for the squad for the

stretch run you guys have coming up.

Grella, a member of CONCAFA soccer club, at one time during the year he was not on CONCAFA, was actually going to cancel all of CONCAFA.

And then, you know, we got Grella back on the squad, back on the right path, and the boys are now buzzing.

It's not just obviously TST, the NHL Stanley Cup finals.

Solo FC has

won the game.

They've done it.

Target score time.

Solo FC dominating 4-0 win over the Speedy Turtles, who

weren't speedy enough over the Solo FC.

Solo FC's team, they can run.

You can watch, just like in hockey, you can see what team's faster.

In TST, you can see what teams are faster, what teams can run more.

Also, Solo FC, very deep, a lot of players on their bench.

That's good news because there's a lot of subbing.

This is an exhausting event as Hope Solo puts the golden scarf, golden fleece, on whoever hit the target score time.

I had a chance to do that just yesterday.

What an honor.

It is an honor.

NHL Stanley Cup final started last night.

Edmonton Oilers up 1-0 in the series and an overtime win in Edmonton over the Florida Panthers.

We talked to Wayne Gretzky in the first hour.

He chit-chatted about how he feels.

It's probably going to go seven.

Florida Panthers are going to answer.

But maybe this is the year that a Canadian team wins the Stanley Cup for first time, long time.

NBA finals start tonight in Oklahoma City as the Thunder, our nine and a half point favorites, as the Indiana Pacers flew over there two days ago in the middle of a tornado.

Actually got rerouted.

Plane almost ran out of gas.

gas had to stop in tulsa refuel get back up in the sky go over to oklahoma city five six hours of travel time i just believe with probably some rocky climbs i'd say i'd say rocky climb series in tornado alley i believe oklahoma is right in the middle of tornado time yes it is and uh t's and p's everybody indiana also without a doubt This is the shortest distance between two teams that are playing in the NBA Finals, Oklahoma City and Indianapolis represented in the finals.

Two small markets, two fan bases that are yearning for a dub, and two fan bases that are going to be incredibly passionate.

A great style of basketball is going to be on show, on display.

That happens tonight.

Let's talk a little bit about NFL football.

There's been some news out of a training camp happening in Indianapolis.

Colts quarterback, Anthony Richardson, has suffered a shoulder injury and will be out.

for minicamp next week.

Shane Steichen would also go on to say that the hopes are that he will be back for training camp.

The hopes are that he's back for training camp in a couple months from now is obviously a little bit alarming, but he has had a shoulder injury in the past, got tackled, had surgery, missed the season, came back last year.

Obviously, he's had numerous other injuries as well throughout his short NFL career thus far.

Shoulder injury, not good.

Hopefully this isn't something that has been lingering and hopefully this is something he can get past because this year is a year where he can explode on the scene as a superstar in the NFL, live up to the number four overall pick hype that he was just a few years ago.

Daniel Jones has been brought in to compete with him.

Danny Dimes looking to make Indianapolis his forever home after everything that happened in New York.

Obviously, an injury in minicamp and OTAs is not great, but at least we got Danny Dimes there.

Supposed to be a competition.

What does this mean to you, AJ, looking forward for the Colts?

I mean, yeah, I believe there definitely is going to be a competition, but if you're Anthony Richardson, you want every single rep you can possibly get, whether it's OTAs, minicamp, and like you said, the fact that he said he will hopefully be available for training camp is what would worry me.

Thinking, all right, we're six to eight weeks out of training camp, six weeks most likely.

I want to make sure my quarterback is 100% going into camp.

Stephen Holder reported that Shane Steichen says Anthony Richardson aggravated his right AC joint, which is the surgery that he had two years ago.

Not great.

No.

Not at all.

Not great.

Especially if you're, I mean, they're not...

they're not hitting him, obviously.

If you aggravated just throwing, that's definitely not good.

CJ Stroud also had some soreness in his right arm uh didn't throw it at otas we're all alarmed by that hopefully anthony's able to get healthy hopefully they're able to have a full roster going in a training camp and a full competition what's that connor well they don't and it sucks but if if you're danny dimes this shouldn't be a competition anymore It should be, hey, these next two weeks, this is my team.

And after that, they're never going to turn it back over to AR.

That's just me personally.

I assume Danny Dimes, if he wants this to be his forever home, which hopefully he does, he will just say, you know what, this competition's competition's over.

This is my team now.

I'm not going to, you know, pitter-patter around while Anthony Richardson's getting better.

I'm going to take advantage of the time and basically show everybody, hey, AR, that was a fun time, but it's Danny Dimes time in India, okay?

Sorry.

Leading the meeting rooms, obviously leading the hangouts, the throwing in the summer, everything like that.

This does kind of open the door for Danny Dimes to potentially feel as if he is the starter, as opposed to in a competition not wanting to piss anybody off because there's going to be allegiances and alliances in the locker room.

Battling through that is a part of having a quarterback competition, especially when you bring in a guy from outside getting paid more than the rookie that was drafted number four overall.

Interesting situation.

Hate that he's hurt again, but this is kind of becoming Anthony Richardson's story in the NFL.

Hopefully he's able to get healthy.

Derek Carr spoke about his shoulder injury that has sidelined him for the rest of his life.

This kind of came out of nowhere.

This kind of came out of nowhere.

So last season happens.

Derek Carr and the Saints obviously don't have a a great year.

But then the offseason horizes and it's like, okay, Derek Carr is going to be their quarterback.

He got back into throwing.

He had some shoulder

soreness, I guess.

Then he goes to the Saints.

They start talking.

What's the future?

What's this?

He retires.

He's no longer their quarterback.

Now we're getting more information.

He basically said he would have needed surgery.

If you would have got surgery, you would have been rehabbing all season.

They would have had to pay him 20 million or whatever the amount of millions it is.

He would have been doing nothing.

So instead of that, he just retired.

Babyface moved by Derek Carr.

And also,

how can you have that serious of a shoulder injury without knowing it for a while?

That's seemingly what happened here for Derek Carr.

Either he's incredibly tough and he's just like, ah, it just hurts a little bit.

Or this thing came up out of nowhere.

I don't fully understand how we got here.

I don't fully understand either.

I would think after the season gets over, that's when you have your postseason.

You know, they check you, you get your MRIs and everything, and you're thinking, if I get this shoulder or whatever.

I got an injury, let's get it fixed.

The initial injury.

Yeah, he hurt his, what was it, hand or arm or wrist?

And then they didn't realize that his shoulder was hurt at all until his wrist completely healed after the season.

Wrist heals, he goes to throw.

Oh shit, I hurt my shoulder as well.

So they just had no idea that this guy had a bummed shoulder until he recovered from the initial wrist injury that he got from launching himself for a first down, which is comedy.

Yeah, it is hilarious, especially in the time of the season and the expectations at that point of the season for what Derek Carr tried to do.

Kelly Moe down there is the first-time head coach of the New Orleans Saints.

They know it's going to take a while.

Yeah.

They know it's going to take a while.

But that's why everybody said, why didn't they draft Shador?

They need a starter.

That's fair.

They didn't really address it early.

Shador Sanders threw a touchdown at Cleveland Browns, but he can't do that.

Wow.

I wonder if Tyler Chuck has thrown it.

He probably not.

Shador Sanders looking comfortable, spinning it.

Touchdown, Cleveland.

Bronze Shador Sanders.

Will he be the quarterback in the fall?

We shall see.

If he goes from fifth round to starter, with the amount of people that are on that roster, that'll be a great story.

And he has definitely earned it.

Good luck to Shador.

Good luck to the Sanders family.

I also like the fact that Coach Prime's coming out talking, going, you guys are lying about my boy.

I don't like it.

We shall see how it all works out.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's a two-time Olympic gold medalist, 12-time all-star in the NBA, 11-time all-NBA, nine-time all-defense.

He bops the wood.

That guy bops the wood.

Ladies and gentlemen, a member of the San Antonio Spurs, also selected to the NBA's

75th anniversary team, Chris Paul.

Yeah,

Chris!

What, no kicks?

Nine-time all-defense.

How you doing?

I do not know that stat.

I did not know that stat.

Most people don't.

Legit.

As I read it right there, I was like, oh, God.

You probably should have had a couple more.

Oh, it should have been 11.

Should have been 10.

Probably Probably should have a couple more.

Maybe like 11 or 12.

I don't get to watch because they don't show it enough.

You're smacking the wood every time they're coming down.

He ain't doing all that.

Why not?

We can't bop the wood a little bit?

I play offense too.

Okay, let's talk about you playing offense.

You're a point guard.

They put you together with Wemby down there.

What was it like playing with him?

Is he different than anybody that's ever played basketball?

And what's your takeaway of the San Antonio Spurs going forward?

Wemby is different.

He's different being 7'4, able to move the way that he does, and he just loves the game.

He loves the hoop.

I think the Spurs are going to be great.

You have Harrison Barnes, who's a great vet.

They brought in De'Aaron Fox, all of us.

You know, I think it's just team wants to stay healthy.

Allegedly, potential landing spot for a couple free agents.

Allegedly, the San Antonio Spurs might be active in the market to get some other big-time names down there.

Everybody obviously chasing the playoffs in the NBA Finals, which tip off tonight.

You're a member of the Oklahoma City Thunder.

Yeah.

Great years there.

That fan base, we've allegedly been told, best in all of NBA.

Allegedly, huh?

I mean, it's competitive.

I didn't see that hat you got on.

Go ahead.

Yeah, but I'm just telling you, it's being alleged.

I've never experienced it myself.

I could see it on TV.

It looks amazing.

What would a championship mean for that city?

And why is that team perfect for that city, seemingly?

Everything.

Everything.

I'm sure there's the same things you would say about the Indiana fan base, about everybody just being

hardworking.

And

I played my rookie year in Oklahoma.

My first two years in the NBA, I played in Oklahoma because I got displaced with Hurricane Katrina.

So I literally grew up there.

My first two years in Oklahoma City.

Then I had an opportunity to go back when I left Houston.

And the fans there are just genuine.

They love their team, right?

They love their team.

They appreciate you if you played for them before.

But but when you come to play against them they're they're about their team let's talk about sga and his crew obviously an incredible he's six foot six i guess i i didn't know that i had no idea he was six foot six from watching him play because all the nba guys you know this

are so abnormally tall so tall let alone wemby that's it right well that's the thing because that's when i see you

You're a tall, actual human.

Yeah.

You're not walking.

You're impressive.

Walking amongst us.

Tall guy.

Yeah.

On a basketball court, absolutely absurd.

I had no idea SGA was 6'6.

Can he talk about his development from whenever he got there to what he is now?

And is that the team you're picking, I assume, the Oklahoma City Thunder to win the NBA Finals?

I ain't picking nothing.

You know what I mean?

Say it with your chest, dude.

I'm going to tell you straight up.

I mean, I'm a fan of the game, not even trying to BS you, but one of the assistant coaches for the Indiana Pacers

was in my wedding.

He's like my brother.

Oh, I like that.

I like that.

Leonero Pargo, who I love.

That's my brother.

You know what I mean?

So I think it's going to be a hard-fought series.

Obviously, I definitely have ties to OKC with Shea, with Lou Dort, with the coaches, with Sam Presley, all those guys.

But

I'm going to definitely pull up to a game to see it.

Can't wait to see you there.

Can't wait to see the reaction.

Let's talk about Tyrese Halliburton.

I feel like he is an old school point guard.

I feel like you probably feel the same way.

I don't want to speak for you.

Whenever they look at his stats, I feel like his points are always the first thing that people attack him for.

He is the facilitator for that whole team, though, and he loves that position.

Is that normal in the modern NBA?

And how do you view Tyrese's game?

Man, he just plays like with a spirit, with a joy.

You know what I mean?

And you can tell, anytime you see a point guard, you can tell how they are when you look at their teammates.

Right?

So, his teammates, they always know they're going to get the ball at the right time.

He's going to make the right play.

So, it's a fun way to play.

But actually, my favorite player on their team to watch probably is Nimhart.

Dude, he get head-butted by Jalen Brunson.

Well, he's a two-way player.

You know what I mean?

He plays defense.

He takes that assignment night in and night out.

But also

he'll go get a bucket if you need him to.

Pascal Siakam, also insane.

He can run.

That team runs.

How many, I think Oklahoma City is probably known for the same thing.

Is there teams that you guys know, like a Carlisle team, for instance, this team is going to run?

And how do you prepare for that?

It's tough, man.

The Pacers are like that.

They play fast, right?

And the thing is, any great team, they want to figure out what their identity is.

And that's what the Pacers figured out, and that's what OKC figured out.

OKC's so good.

Shays out there.

Jalen Williams out there.

But all of those guys, they star in their role.

They defend, and they have fun playing defense.

Nine-time all-defensive selection.

Should have been 11.

Should have been or 12.

Maybe, maybe even 13.

How many years have you been in the league?

Just finished 20.

Jeez, man.

Oh, yeah, definitely just 12.

Those first seven years.

AJ has a question for you.

Yeah, so if you were coaching the Pacers, how do you beat this Oklahoma City team?

We hear no matter how much the Pacers want to run, OKC can run.

They can kind of do whatever you want.

Whatever version you want to play.

Yes, you're a scouting report.

You're a point guard.

You're a coach on the Pacific.

So it does kind of seem like to take down OKC and beat them seems like it's a very, very difficult task right now.

How would you go about attacking them, I guess?

What's interesting is watching Indiana play in the playoffs, right?

Even when they played against the Knicks, most people, if you talk hoops with them, they're like, man, look at the score of this game.

Usually the playoffs are a lot slower, low scoring games.

I think it was tough for the Knicks to beat them because you look at it.

It still looked like a regular season game.

So I think that's a lot of credit to Indiana in continuing to

play at that pace.

And that's hard to do, especially in the playoffs when everybody's trying to grind out each possession.

Like, that's a mindset that you have to have that make or miss, get the ball out, and we're going.

Now I think it scored 130?

Yeah, great.

And a playoff game.

It's time to watch.

It's nothing to watch, man.

And if you score on them, they don't care.

Like, if you score on them, their entire bench, I was lucky to sit there.

Push.

Like, literally, as soon as that ball's in the bucket, that thing is coming back the other way.

And if you can do that consistently all game long, it's like...

Because where'd you out, Doug?

It can, but if there's a team that's built for, it's.

Okay, see.

Connor has a question for you, Chris.

Yeah, Chris, a lot of conversation after this whole Dallas Mavericks thing, getting the number one overall pick.

Shaquille O'Neal came out with the story.

You know, David Stern asked him if you want to play in the hot or the cold.

He said hot, the magic, get the first first pick.

LeBron said some things about, you know, it's not as big of a coincidence that Cleveland got the first pick when I was there.

Derek Rose with Chicago.

Obviously, there was the situation where your trade, allegedly, when the owner

owned the Pelicans, Hornets would then

allege.

That was an alleged.

Yeah, yeah, you're right.

I just want to make sure I don't.

That happened.

That did happen.

David Stern said, no, we're not letting you go to L.A.

How do you feel about the fodder around the first pick because you know most people think of course the Mavericks trade Luca to LA what is you know what do the Mavericks get they get you know Cooper flag who's everyone's saying is worth 500 to a billion dollars by the time it's all said and done which

just so you know I'm just like everybody else right like I'm a fan I was I was at home in LA and

I was watching the ping pong balls like everybody.

And then when I seen the Spurs,

what they popped into like the top four.

So we was going crazy.

Guys in my team, group chat, we like, oh, oh, shit,

what's about to happen?

And I'm in LA right now, and Cooper Flag has been out there.

I've been in the gym with him a couple times or whatnot.

So he is as real as advertised.

So for me,

I don't know.

I'd be like, damn, that is crazy.

That is crazy.

But just so you know, that Laker situation, that's not allegedly.

Okay.

Yeah, so what the team owned the Pelicans at the time, though, right?

The league owned.

The league owned, right?

So our owner at the time, George Sheehan, I guess it fell on hard times and didn't have the money.

And so he basically gave or sold the team back to the NBA, to the league.

And they were running it at the time.

And Stern said, we're not.

Yeah, right.

Let him go play with Cooper.

You think I'm trading Chris Ball?

Yeah, right.

No way.

What's interesting is it was right after the CBA negotiations.

And you were a pretty big voice in that entire thing?

I was on the executive committee at the time.

Oh, nice.

That's a good spot to be in the ownership box.

They really screw it.

If it's anything like the NFL.

Are you an unrestricted free agent right now?

Yeah.

I will be.

And you're playing?

That's my plan is to play.

Okay, so I know 20 years in, you look in phenomenal shape.

You have a snack company that's like healthy snacks.

Thanks for bringing them.

Ice soup.

Yeah, thanks for bringing it.

Last year we got a six.

Oh, we got them right here.

We got them right here.

We're the pickled chips, man.

Where are the snacks?

Yo, over there having a conversation.

Yeah, as they should.

Snacks.

Where the snacks?

Yeah, snacks.

Do we have the snacks?

There you go.

Yeah.

Anyways, you take care of your body.

Body detector, obviously, you're all in.

Absolutely.

Have you thought about how many more years is there a conversation?

Because everybody right now is doing the LeBron combo.

Yeah.

It's like, well, how much longer can LeBron go?

How much longer can LeBron go?

Hey, team, how you guys doing?

Hey, eat good.

Thank you.

We eat good out here.

Thank you so much.

The big deal ranch.

Thank you, Big Dale Ranch.

Thank you.

Big Dill Ranch.

This is my go-to.

Thank you.

That's my favorite right there.

You got to try that.

This is good eating popcorn.

It has

surprisingly plant-based ingredients inside of it.

No artificial flavors, no preservatives, no synthetic colors, and it's deliciously vegan.

That's the truth.

Okay, so this one is popped in coconut oil.

Obviously, that's what you're supposed to do.

It's a big deal.

Yeah, it's good for you.

I like to cook my steaks in coconut or just get a little fish oils as well for the joints.

Everything that Chris Paul is doing.

But everybody's talking about LeBron.

How long is LeBron going to go?

How long?

For you, similar situation.

What is the conversation you have?

Like, is it with your family?

Is it with your agent?

Is it with yourself?

Is it with trainer?

How does it go about that decision and looking at the future?

It's with my family more than anything.

You know, I see you, Pat.

And you got one, how many kids you have now?

One daughter, Michael.

One daughter.

I see you with your daughter all day.

Thank you.

She's beautiful.

I know everybody has their own situations.

I talked to my family about it.

My son just turned 16.

My daughter's 12.

The past six seasons, I've lived without them.

Right?

So I go to San Antonio, Phoenix, Golden State.

No, they were in Houston with me.

Okay see, but I've been around a few teams, but I've been away from them for the last six years.

So

it's a little different.

That's the conversation?

That's the conversation.

Do you think body's good?

Yes.

You think body's good for this season, or do you think I could still play for a while if I wanted to?

Well, I don't think I want to play for a while.

While you know,

I'm being honest with you.

Like, I want to be dad.

You know what I mean?

I still love to play.

I was up in the gym at 6 a.m.

this morning.

How did we shoot?

Pretty good?

I didn't shoot this morning.

I worked out this morning.

But yesterday I was in the gym.

Day before I was in the gym.

And it's crazy.

My daughter actually hoops now.

So before I flew out here, I was in the gym with her for 20 minutes.

Like with kids, sometimes you just got to do short sessions.

So I was in 20 minutes doing ball handling with her, and it was priceless.

You don't get that time back.

Yeah, you're right.

And it seems to go faster as they get older, from what I've been told.

Yeah, but I want to hoop because I love to hoop, but at the same time, I do want to be that.

You're kind of battling.

Yeah, I mean, Boston's a good place to bring family.

That's really far.

That's really

possible.

But I'm just saying, some of those other places, maybe not the best.

Boston, the schools.

Is that right?

The high schools, the private schools.

Yeah, that's what we've heard about Boston's school.

Yeah, I'm telling you.

It's very welcoming, people.

It's up and coming.

It's up and coming.

Ty has a question for you, Chris.

I'm curious how the players in the NBA feel about it.

We always talk about the NFL, like, going into a season, every single fan base is like, hey, we can win a Super Bowl this year.

But guys who actually play, or people who are in the know, know, like, there's probably only eight teams who are going to compete this year.

We've seen that I think this is going to be the seventh or the eighth year in a row where a different champion is crowned.

Does it feel like going into seasons, like, with where the parody's at in the league, like, more teams can actually compete and win a title?

Yeah.

I mean, I've been on all these different committees for years and know how they want parody in the league.

But the thing that you can't ever

calculate is injuries, right?

Injuries are everything in any league.

Yeah, Anthony Richardson just hurt his shoulder in OTAs for the Colts.

We're out of quarterback.

I'm Dad.

Thanks for bringing it up.

It just happened 10 minutes ago.

But those are the things, you know, the injury to Jason Tatum, right?

You know, Kyrie Irving getting hurt when he did.

All these different guys, you know what I mean?

What are y'all laughing at?

I'm just hammering.

We're eating your popular microphone.

We're getting bitched at

the bottom.

We are getting yelled at from the popularity.

The smart sound guy just came into our house.

We are getting yelled at.

Give me some chips, man.

Hey, this is good eats.

This is good eats.

How are you going out here?

My bad.

How are you doing out here?

I played last night.

Oh, I've seen it.

Yeah, okay.

You had a wide-open shot.

Excuse me, the goalie was in perfect position.

That goalie for their team was really good.

They went five.

But he was really.

He was working on that.

You had a wide open shot for the night.

I think that was actually a new goalie that had to give up any.

Put it into the woods.

This is the one that really should have gone in.

But look at that assist.

I'm Chris Paul.

What are you going to do?

Get that out of here.

Chris Paul with the assist.

And then here's Porch might be the best player in the league.

He actually won the tournament last year.

That right there.

And you almost hurt yourself.

No, not almost.

Yeah, we're the backspot.

You see the power on the shot though?

I fell a couple times last night.

I hadn't touched a soccer ball since last year's TSD.

I remember what you did last year.

Thank you, Chris.

Jeez.

This is a great tournament.

Hey, this is a great tournament.

You're a part of it, right?

Absolutely.

We are so grateful for y'all being here.

Seriously, man.

Seriously.

It's something that I look forward to.

I wish I was in the finals and couldn't be here, but listen, this is a great time.

Are you going to play ever?

Running your mouth a lot.

Are you ever going to get on the field?

Absolutely.

Okay.

Absolutely.

I think you'd play for our team next year.

Next year?

Okay, fine.

If I'm done playing, if I've retired, I will absolutely get out there with y'all.

Okay, you're on.

I'll get out there.

I'll see you on the anger, Chris.

I'll get out there with y'all.

From what I know with the way you play and the way you operate, you're going to love our team.

We are a hard-nosed team.

Is that right?

We're smacking the wood.

Talk a lot of junk.

Yeah, a lot of shit being talked out of our team.

Tony has a question for you, Chris.

Yeah, Chris, last week we played a clip of Joe Flacco.

He was asked about mentoring Shader and Kenny Pickett and Dylan Gabriel, the younger quarterbacks on his team.

And he basically said, if I answer this and say, yeah, I want to be a mentor, it means I don't want to start.

Or if I say, no, I don't want to be a mentor, it makes me look like an asshole.

He basically said, If these guys don't pay attention to what I'm doing and realize that I've been in the league for 15, 16 years, whatever it is, like that's that's kind of on them.

How does the NBA treat that?

Like, now that you're a veteran, the Spurs obviously had the last two rookie of the years.

Like, do you feel like you have to be a mentor, or is it on them to kind of follow you and watch kind of what you do?

I think it's a combination of both, but you got to be who you are.

Yeah, right.

And I've genuinely always just, I'm not a hoarder of information, right?

So I'm going to share what i know what i see to to all the guys that's been my teammates but i i say this all the time guys only gonna respect what you're saying if you can hoop yeah right and in this new generation they don't care about what you did they want to know what you can do now and so from the different teams that i've went to when i went to san antonio this past summer The first time I went to go hoop with the guys, I don't know why I remember this.

I think it was because it was around my daughter's birthday.

It was August 12th through the 16th.

It was a mini camp.

And I treated that almost like the finals because your first impression is everything.

So I made sure that when I came to the gym, that I was in tip-top shape.

And when we hoop,

I was going to get to it.

Because once they see that, now they'll listen to you.

And the mentorship kind of happens.

Okay, so let's talk about you saying being in tip-top shape.

and showing up like that was the finals.

Luca just came out on the Mind the Game podcast and said that when he got to LA, LA, I seen this guy do something never seen before.

He said he was there 10 hours before the game.

He said, I was getting there and he was already finished with his workout.

Feels like I've heard that story a couple different times.

And is your generation like kind of the last generation that was those types of dudes?

Do younger generation guys pick it up from you guys?

Like, how do you think that kind of works?

And you obviously know LeBron very well.

Has he always been that way?

And what is your shit?

I assume you're a very diligent worker as well.

You didn't put up any shots today.

I put up some shots today.

I think my jumper got better today.

Sure.

Chris?

Yeah.

I don't know.

Actually, when you get older, you actually work out more, right?

It takes longer.

Yeah, I mean, we have shoot around at 10 o'clock this past season, 7, 7.30 a.m.

Every single day, myself and Harrison Barnes is at the gym every single day, right?

It's just.

It's part of your routine, right?

Do you drink your own urine?

I don't know.

That's what he did.

Hell no.

That's what he did.

That's what they did.

You get better.

Have not.

Who told you that?

He just did this with Johnny Johnny Damon.

It's a whole thing.

I've heard of that before.

Bingo, yeah, right.

And here's what players you know.

To each his own.

Oh, no.

I don't.

No judgment if you don't.

No, no, respect.

My pee is so hot.

I'm not drinking.

You put it in the fridge.

Yeah.

I would never cost a couple of money.

I never said that.

I've not tried it.

So what do you do?

What do you do?

You do acupuncture and all that?

Do you have like a full.

Yeah, I do sauna, cold tub massage

Diet all this different type stuff man, but the biggest thing I tell try to tell people you got like keep moving right

more than anything keep moving.

Yeah, that's why you saw what you saw yesterday.

I don't move a lot.

I move and I sit.

Will you work out forever, you think?

You think you'll be a guy that wakes up every morning, works out forever?

Yes.

You won't get like super lazy when you retire?

No,

there's a level of vanity that goes to it, too.

I'm outside a little bit too much.

You know what I mean?

I go too many places.

And you know what?

You former athletes, right?

Former athletes.

When you meet other former athletes, right, and you see them and they don't look like they did, as soon as they walk away, what y'all say?

Y'all be like, fast.

Connor has kind of let himself go.

Yeah, Chris, another thing I feel as though it came up last year a little bit was kind of the changing of how the NBA is getting more physical.

How awesome it is.

And now this year, the conversation throughout the playoffs, especially with Brunson and SGA, has been kind of the free throw artist type of it.

You've been all NBA defense nine times.

When you're playing someone who you know kind of flops, if you will, when you get a little physical with them, how do you kind of get over that?

Because we saw JD McDaniels at one point say, like, all right, screw it.

Like, I'm just going to push him as hard as I can to the ground.

I know SGA is your guy, and you guys have, you know, a great relationship, but that style of basketball as an old school player, does that bother you at all when you see it happening just because of how different it is and how the old school guys look at the free throw artist as like, yeah, see, this is why they want to be able to play in the 90s and all that?

The game has changed, right?

And fortunately, I've played long enough to be able to see it change.

Somebody was showing a, I saw a playoff game on Instagram the other day from back when I first came in the league and the final scores were in the 70s and the 80s.

Like the game changes, right?

And so guys are stronger, maybe faster or whatnot, learn new moves and all this stuff.

So I think you just got to study and know what they like to do.

Like I play against Shea too and I know that he's going to try to hit me with that forearm or whatnot, right?

But the same thing with Nimhart.

Y'all ever seen Nimhart when he drive and he hit guys with that shoulder?

There's a physicality of the game, but there's an awareness that you got to guard and you got to be ready for that, right?

So it's tough.

And this is why this is the best players in the world night in and night out trying to figure out how to curate points yeah you got to change the game you can't let the game change you ain't that right chris bars

i didn't make it up but that's been said before

definitely uh we actually have uh a graphic for you to see chris just so you could see what it could potentially look like next year

another potential sign-in with messi

was up here

not lionell lou and we're trying to get him to play for the united states of of America, too, because he's lived in Miami for a while now.

We think that should be fair.

But

Lou Messi, a potential signing, there's a chance he gets a billion offer from Saudi, I guess.

Oh, have you heard about it?

I ain't heard about that.

No, there's been a lot of conversation, a lot of soccer chatter.

You know, I've been around it for the last couple of years.

Yeah, him and Lou Messi's, Lionel Messi's contract is coming up.

What's that?

What's up?

I don't know what that was all about.

Yeah, I think there's.

Late entry, Row Rumble.

Oh, no, someone's

been a

player laying down here

from the say word FC team for the last few minutes.

Oh, shit.

I'd say like 10 minutes, I think there has been a group of people standing over there.

Did not know that there was a player down in that group, but there has been a player down, seemingly got injured

during warm-ups.

Seems to be sitting up.

Passed out.

Passed down.

What's that?

Passed out.

A coach, we're we're getting word that a coach passed out on the field there during warm-ups for Say Word FC.

It's been, yeah, definitely.

It has been a.

He didn't move.

We did see him move, though.

Right, Zeke?

If we had to.

He's up right now.

Yeah, he's saying he's up.

All right.

All right.

So we have, there was a while, though, he was just down.

Yeah.

Like while you were giving a great answer, it was a great answer.

I didn't listen to any of it, but the tone you were speaking seemed to be a good answer.

I was looking.

You are sick.

Yeah, but I saw him move, Chris.

I saw him move.

Oh, he's moving right now.

There we go.

There we go.

That's scary stuff.

You never know.

You literally never know what it could be.

Happy he's okay.

So you could potentially be on Concafa next year.

Good luck to you and all your decision-making that you have to do.

Man, I appreciate y'all.

And you would like to make your prediction for the finals.

We appreciate you doing that.

Who are you predicting?

Me, Pacers in six.

You think so?

Pacers in six.

Okay.

AJ.

AJ?

Pacers in six, bro.

Yeah.

Connor?

Thunder and five.

Disgusting.

Ty?

Pacers in seven.

Love that.

Ty?

Sam.

Chris?

Do y'all contractually have to say that?

I said, what do you got?

I said thunder.

No, he said pacers.

I don't know.

Do we want our food to get spinning?

Do we want it to eat?

Thunder and five.

He said thunder and five.

Quick series, he said, actually.

Your prediction, Chris follows me.

It's going to be a good series.

Seven games.

You think?

That's what you just said.

Good series.

He said it's going to be a good series.

Six games, he says.

Okay.

Great series would be seven.

Got it.

Anything else?

Who has more talent?

You know what's funny, honestly, and I'll tell you this.

It's cool for guys to get a predictions and all that stuff like that.

But I always say that I play.

Like, I still play.

Isn't it so stupid, the predictions thing?

How are you supposed to know?

No, it ain't even that.

It's just that the way that I'm built and orchestrated, it's hard for me to fool with you after I've seen you say that you think somebody else is going to win.

That's

you have no idea what's going to happen, first of all.

We don't.

When we make predictions, people care so much.

If you were to give a prediction right there,

Chris Paul hates the Pacers.

Oh, yeah.

It would have been immediately.

Last thing here before we let you go, and we appreciate your time.

Adam Silver talked about a team USA versus Team World concept that they're going to do for the All-Star game.

I believe he was on Fox on...

Yeah, I believe he was on Breakfast Ball.

Breakfast Ball, Morning Ball.

He said on there that this is something they've been thinking about.

Obviously, a lot of players are interested in this.

Do you think this will heighten the all-star game?

Because Pro Bowl has a problem, too.

We want to flag football.

The NHL figured out with Four Nations.

I think Adam Silver is seeing that and saying, hey, there's a chance we can maybe capitalize on this.

Do you think guys will care if Team World was to beat the Team USA's ass?

Do you think that'll matter?

I got a lot of thoughts and stuff on the all-star game stuff.

You know, that was news to me when I seen that, too.

What are your thoughts on the all-star game?

I mean it needs some shaping and some fixing hopefully this does it what they tried last year wasn't it

you know what I mean

that was on the same weekend as Four Nations too with Holly no a few years ago when it was in you know a few years ago when it was in Chicago I don't know if that was 2020 2021 whatnot we took the the model from the TBT and that was the first all-star game with the target score.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, that was the first time we did an all-star game with that target score.

I believe in basketball, it's called Elam Elam Ending.

Elam Ending.

Exactly.

I believe is the name of it.

It's great.

There's always a walk-off.

Exactly.

So we did it in the all-star game, the Chicago All-Star game.

Should that do that for USA World?

Should have target score time.

Absolutely.

The worry I know is just like anytime it's an all-star game, like Luca and Jokic make a point to just basically dick around.

Will guys actually try still?

I mean, it's not just them too.

First and foremost,

you just got to make sure that the guys,

you know, really want to compete or whatnot.

You got to have them play for something.

You know, being at the union for years, well, we took the money up, right?

We took the money up to a certain number, right?

So now the number might have to go up again.

Yeah, it does.

Because Fort Nations...

Get in there and negotiate it.

No, no, no, no.

That's for you to do.

No, no, no.

Fort Nations was just a trophy, and guys were out for the entire season.

Right.

Like Matthew Kachuck and Charlie McAvoy both got hurt for the entire...

The last thing they did in the regular season for hockey was play for their country, and then they were out until the playoffs.

They cared, Chris.

Yeah,

that's why people are like, hey, they're comparing to Four Nations.

Baseball doesn't do what's his name anymore, though, do they?

Like the winning team?

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

They still in the World Series.

Yeah, they got rid of that.

All right, Chris, we'll assume you'll figure it out.

We appreciate you doing that.

Good luck in your free agency journey.

Good luck in your basketball journey.

Good luck in your family journey.

And good luck next year when you're playing for Colin CAFO.

Okay, we need a goal out of you.

Okay, if there's a wide open shot, we need you to put that in.

i gotta ask mugo them is that in the bylaws if i can if i can play on the team the bylaws look good to me ladies and gentlemen chris falls

appreciate y'all man

hey come to boston it'd be fun seriously come dating we gotta we gotta why not hey where are you thinking about going anywhere we said spurs last year and then he went we're still live we're still live are you going anywhere you think about playing

yeah you do That was bullshit.

That's a lie.

That feels like bullshit.

Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, he'll be on Concave for next year.

Unless he plays again.

I mean, if he can cut it, let's be real.

There's a lot of good talent on Concave.

Yeah, there is.

There was actually some talent from last year's team that acknowledged that there was a lot better talent this year and said, you know what?

You can have my minutes.

There's a lot better team here for Concave.

That's a good team.

Maybe Chris Paul will be joining us.

Our team would be great.

A guaranteed dub.

If this next person that's joining us would join our team.

He was pro soccer player, obviously, for 141 caps.

Wow.

For the United States of America.

He's a 2016 MLS Cup champ with the Sounders, which they talk about.

Yeah, a lot of people say that's one of the best professional sports teams of all time.

He's tied with Landon Donovan for the most international goals at 57.

We need him, ladies and gentlemen.

A man who is launching a brand new podcast with the Men and Blazers media network called The Deuce.

Ladies and gentlemen, Clint Devis.

Yay, Clint, Clint.

What's up?

How's it going, Mr.

Concafa?

Concafa, have some respect, Clint.

Jesus,

we appreciate you joining us, man.

And obviously, we hope you'll get down here to TST in the future.

It is a beautiful celebration of the sport that you were so damn great at for so long.

Let's talk about you moving into the media world a little bit more here with the Deuce with the Men and Blazers Media Network.

When can we expect it?

What's it going to be?

And congratulations.

This is awesome news for everybody.

I appreciate it, man.

Starting on the 7th, you know, I'm happy to be joining Men and Blazers in the platform they've created and Raj, the energy he brings to the game.

And yeah, covering the U.S.

as they have these friendlies go into the Gold Cup.

It's kind of a stressful time as we build towards the World Cup with the performance we've had in the past.

But yeah, I mean, it's a platform where you can just kind of keep it real and shoot people straight.

And hopefully people

tune in and watch it.

You're one of the greatest United States soccer players of all time.

You'll be in the Mount Rushmore conversation as Chris Paul just hucked some chips across the stage.

Sorry about that.

Shout out to Chris Paul.

Good pass, though.

Still got it.

Still got it.

Still got it.

That was a good pass there.

You're one of the greatest United States soccer players of all time.

I grew up dreaming of being on the United States soccer team.

You've won the Gold Cup three times.

You've had a lot of success.

Our U.S.

soccer team, our men's team, has not had a lot of success.

This was supposed to be the generation in the era that was going to be great, too.

What are your thoughts on the state of U.S.

soccer?

And can we win this damn thing?

We would like to win it all.

We would like us to win it all.

Is that ever possible or how long do you think?

I mean, I think it's possible, but hey, you got to look at the scenario we're in.

I mean, we're last Cop America.

I think we're the first host country to never get out of the group.

So that was a failure.

And then you have CONCACAP Nations League semifinals where we lost to Panama.

And then we also lost to Canada in the third, fourth place game.

And then for me, this kind of makes Gold Cup important again.

I mean, back when I was playing, there was a few Gold Cups where if you won it, you got to go to Confederations Cup.

But for me, this is such a huge tournament.

It's because to get this fan base back on aboard and get people

believing again in this U.S.

team and what they can do.

Because you're never going to have moments like this or opportunities like this to have.

to play in a World Cup

in your own country.

You know what I mean?

You saw what happened with 94, how it brought

about the Professional League of MLS.

So it's a big opportunity.

If we don't take advantage of it, man,

it would be one of the biggest failures of all time.

Why would it be?

Would it be because of the players?

Would it be because of the system?

Would it be because of the selection process?

Like, what do you think is the thing that has held us back?

Man, that's a great question.

I think there's a few things.

I think since COVID, you have a situation where you have the same teams just playing each other too often.

You have CONCACAP, Nations League, got Gold Cup, you got World Cup qualifying, and you're just playing the same teams over and over.

I think it'd be better if you kind of mixed it up where you had Gold Cup, then it was Nations League, was the next year, then another year would be like a Copa America.

And then it makes it a little bit more prestigious not to have it back to back to back all the time.

And also it gives you opportunities to play against other countries and in their countries.

I think that only helps you to get better.

It gets people more excited about playing in those type of games.

I think by playing each of the same teams over and over and over, it kind of loses the hype.

And maybe it makes people not to want to get called in or come in.

But for me, it was always representing my country.

I always dreamed about playing for my country, playing in World Cup as a kid.

That's what I pray to God at night for.

So like, anytime there was a tournament, if I could walk, man, you know, I was going to be there.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, you're a dog.

I feel like we need more of you nowadays.

Hopefully, we'll be able to get that under Coach Ponch, who I assume one of the boys is going to ask about.

You talk about, you know,

too many of similar opponents, and maybe people losing interest.

I think there's a lot of interest in the MLS right now, maybe more so than ever.

I remember when Beckham was brought in, given a percentage of the league and a future team, and I forget how many millions he was making, like every two days.

It was a massive ordeal.

It was supposed to swing the MLS into superstardom.

superstardom.

Kind of happened.

Obviously, Beckham sold places out.

But with Messi coming over, every stadium was sold out.

The Apple deal, obviously, was a big one for the league.

Who knows what the future looks like in either of those?

You're a former MLS Cup champ.

Do you like where the MLS is?

You've obviously played around the world.

Is it good enough?

Should we talk shit for the MLS more for it being a good league?

Or what are your thoughts on the home domestic league here?

I would say yes and no.

I would say yes.

It's bigger than it's ever been.

Players are making more money than they've made in the past.

It's something that's being covered more often.

You talk about Messi and what he's able to do

in terms of bringing mainstream America to watching soccer here.

Because in the past, it seemed like it was every four years when a World Cup happens that soccer would kind of move the needle.

And where Messi coming to enter Miami, he is the needle.

He moves that every season that he's around and the popularity that gets to it.

The only thing that maybe I worry about a little bit is like the young American that's developing and whether or not we're finding these creative players that are able to take risks, take people on,

and be into the attack.

Or is that going to more South American type players?

Back in the day, it just seemed like there was more young guys that were attacking players that were American that were making the all-star.

And I'm just not really seeing that much lately.

You think we've lost our pizzazz?

Used to take dudes on.

Quickly.

Quickly, we want to.

go.

Lost our.

Yeah, I think I'd like to see more of it, man.

I'd like to see people being creative and taking people on.

If you don't have someone to pass to, like, trying to create something, make something happen.

I think too many times people play safe, they play back, they play sideways just to keep the ball.

And there's just certain times.

Hey, you need to pull the trigger.

You need to get the ball to Pat McIntyre to get that cross into Grella.

Hey, come on.

Amen, Clay.

Amen.

Hey, we need to have one here.

Yeah.

Why not have one?

Think about having one.

Why not have one?

Find the boots.

Find the boots.

Rip one.

A lot of the boys are getting baptized in soccer here.

Getting baptized in soccer here.

There's a 14-year-old from Philadelphia.

Cavin Sullivan.

Cavin Sullivan.

Have you heard about this dude?

Have you talked to this guy?

They're already shipping him out of the country.

It's like, what are we doing?

Why don't we let this guy play?

Why don't we...

Isn't that like the type of player that we should be

trying to...

make a great like it I don't know how do you feel about the treatment outside I mean I think wherever you're gonna play is the most important thing wherever you're gonna go and get the best composition and get the best opportunity to get games, if you're not getting in games, then what's the point if you're sitting on the bench?

So I think there's a way that you just got to make the right decisions on the teams you go to.

Are they playing the style of play that you like to play?

Are they allowing you to express yourself?

Or are they trying to change your game?

I mean, it's all, it's kind of like picking a college.

You know what I mean?

You got to figure out what...

what's going to be the right fit for you and hopefully he makes the right decision.

But I think there's a balance.

You can have players that are going to Europe being young and competing at the the best clubs.

But at the same time, there's some people that have got to go the MLS route first.

And I was one of those guys.

I paved my way in MLS, broke into the national team, and then through doing well in World Cups, it got me to go to Europe and play in the Premier League.

One of the first ever out of the United States of America.

Obviously, Tim Howard had quite a run in the Premier League.

You as well, Clint Dempsey, us young lads looked up to you.

Tone has a question for you.

Yeah, Clint, that's kind of what my question was around.

It feels like the lore, the prestige of the Premier League and playing over in Europe is like the

young U.S.

stars are going over there and just sitting on the bench.

It feels like Christian at this point is really the only one who's going over there and getting meaningful minutes.

Like, do you think the U.S.

team would fare better if the U.S.

talent stayed home more and just got more playing time and kind of were more of a cohesive unit?

I think it's a mix, right?

You need people that are staying home, getting those regular minutes for their club.

But we got Anthony Robinson, Tyler Adams, and Christian and Western McKinney who are doing well in Europe.

But it's also picking the right teams, picking the right leagues.

You know, I like what Holland has there in terms of playing for like an IAX or PSB.

It's a place that you can kind of go there and develop, or if you're able to go to Portugal, play with like FC Porzo or Benfica, you know, teams like this that have a history of producing young, talented players.

I mean, getting the opportunity, like, and Dortmund as well in the Bundesliga, where you've seen Christian kind of come through,

who looked real bright, but, you know, picked up some injuries.

But I think you've got to have a mix.

i'm eating chips right now

so i apologize for being disrespectful but clint we need you down here at tst will you play for our team next year hey you never know man hey have mike greller hit me up do you still got it you play it all uh i play a little bit with my kids but i mean i could go out there maybe put you know do a little something be a super sub you never know welcome in team clint yeah welcome to that team

hit him up because he's gonna take his talk a capa let's go yeah there it is okay you nailed it you're the man ladies and gentlemen, one of the greatest of all time.

The host of the deuce from the Men and Blazers Media Network.

And next year, a member of Oh

Capa.

Ladies and gentlemen, Clint Tempsey.

Thank you all again.

Appreciate you.

Thank you, Clint.

Rapper as well.

Yeah.

Chess player.

Very talented.

He was a dog on the field.

As he was.

And he wanted to try people.

He made it cool.

He made it fun to watch Team USA.

Yeah, then his raps weren't like corny.

No.

Like, oh no, Clint Dempsey has come out with a song.

I was very scared.

He's a massive Clint Dempsey fan.

I was like, we don't need to be doing that.

Then he listened to it.

It's like, oh, Clint Tempsey's got bars, actually.

Name's right in the song.

It was a tread on this guy.

It was great for the soccer world.

I'm happy he's getting back into

the media world.

Him talking about it, just like Wayne talking about it, is good for the sport.

With the World Cup coming around, the Goncavapod, Clint Dempsey with the dudes, feels like soccer's kind of back in it, AJ.

The U.S.

has to do well at this World Cup.

I mean, like Quent said, every four years, the World Cup comes up, and it does kind of, soccer does move the needle.

These people become household names.

Like, do we have those guys right now?

Palisic?

Are we counting on them?

We're not playing in the Gold Cup.

I know you guys.

Are we counting on it?

Who are our marquee dudes for the U.S.

that we're focusing on?

Our marquee dudes are focused on Skavant Solvin.

Look, we talked to some former team USA members yesterday, and I'll tell you what.

I'm punting on the World Cup next year.

Word on the street is these boys are already tired.

We were pretty worried about their mentality going into it.

And sure, they got all the skill in the world.

And I'm not going to quote verbatim what they said.

But look, you got a guy who's coaching the team who doesn't really want to be there.

What?

You got players.

He wants to be there.

You got players that aren't the best in the country that don't want to play on the team.

What?

We're calling the guy Captain America.

Has Christian Pulisic ever even been a freaking captain of a team?

I don't know because I don't know shit about soccer.

But what I do know is the vibes aren't high on this this.

I disagree.

We're finding our team.

It's a little late for a game to be finding our team.

The World Cup's right around the corner.

Thank you.

Have you been doing your part?

No.

No.

What's on our hats?

USA baseball.

The flag.

You guys haven't done your part at all.

Tell you what, I think Paunch needs to be.

He needs boots.

Find the boots.

Paunch does care, but if he doesn't, I saw a coach down in a lobby hotel this morning watching tape and trying to get better.

That's real cool.

We're talking about Coach Miola and Coach Todd Ramos?

Yeah.

Todd Ramos.

Wow.

Wow.

So, Todd Ramos, just real quick, I think he was the first ever draft pick of the MLS.

He's a top two United States soccer player of all time.

He's been coached in multiple places.

Him and Tony Miola, best friends, and he's our assistant coach for Conquefa.

Coached in the World Cup for Team USA when they went on that run and beat Algeria and all that.

Just so, him coming and doing Conquefa.

So I've thanked him like 10 different times.

So cool.

Thank you for doing this.

Like, legit me.

And also invested.

And that has learned our players.

They're watching They're trying to figure out seven on seven.

It's a big opportunity.

I think it's good for the sport here.

Yeah.

I think it's big.

Here's Tony Miola and Tab Ramos watching film this morning in the lobby of the hotel.

Obviously, they had a meeting, bright-eyed, bushy-tailed.

Let's go ahead, 7 a.m., Tab, you and me will watch film of the team.

Who's our guys?

Who's not our guys?

You think they watched My Minute and a Half last night?

Yeah, no doubt about it.

We were at breakfast right now.

That's when they were just enjoying it going.

What a son of a boy.

When I sat with them for a second, they were watching the Bournemouth film.

I don't think they had made it to last night's game yet.

Did not love the way we started in the Bournemouth.

0-0, KGFA, very dominant.

We got to start taking more guys on.

With that being said, it's been raining for like the last hour.

There's just people posted up out here.

We appreciate you guys.

It's beautiful down here in Kerry, North Carolina.

Let's go back to the truck.

Bubba Gampino is back there.

Gumpy is one of the assistant coaches

for Concafa SC.

Gumpy, how do you feel about the tournament and how the team's doing?

The squad is unbelievable this year.

We are just on a different level from start to finish.

Last night, I mean, Chad Porch, everybody's getting involved.

Everybody's getting touched.

It's been an absolute joy to watch these boys.

Yeah, it is good.

I don't like that our assistant coach is gassing the boys up as much.

Tony Miola will come in and bury him.

I already was pissed at the start of the game last night.

He was not happy about our warm-ups yesterday.

So we had five balls for warm-ups.

Four of them got blasted into the woods.

So we had one ball for warm-ups for our entire team.

So there's a lot of standing around, dicking around.

I also did not love what I was watching show the team in war.

That's when you went and got ready.

Like, oh, I guess they're going to need me because he's going to be a little bit more.

I'm going to go put my boots on.

I'm going to go put my boots on.

Tony Miola says, I don't like anything that I just saw.

Here's the starting lineup.

Figure it out.

Walks off.

Love that.

He had like his moment.

And the boys did figure it out.

Yeah, they answered the call.

5-0.

3-0 lead at halftime.

5-0 total.

And me and Foss blew two goals.

So that thing should have been seven.

I don't know about you and Foss, but I do know what you're saying.

A lot of meat left on the bone.

Oh, shit.

Reggae Rovers just had a

highlight real goal.

Oh, they're back.

The reggae rovers are now up 3-0.

This was

filthy.

I don't know if we have the...

Here it is.

Replay.

Watch him.

Ah, gets the pass outside.

One-on-one with the goalie.

What are you going to do with it?

And

Christ!

God, that was cheap.

That's the reggae roll.

You want to talk about teams who just know how to put boot on ball?

Or reggae rovers

into the back of the bed now.

We'll be off tomorrow.

This is our last show of the week.

We'll be back Monday live with a fool-over reaction of everything.

Oh, yeah.

Including tonight's NBA Finals starting with the Pacers traveling to Oklahoma City as nine and a half-point dogs.

Last night, Oilers-Panthers dropped puck for the NHL Finals.

Let's do a full game highlight of that because people need to understand that last night's game was electrifying from beginning all the way to the end.

Let's go one minute into the game.

Kaplan gets it the dry sideline goloso.

One zip at home.

Edmonton's upside down.

Will they be able to hold on to that lead for a long time?

Will they be able to ride the momentum of all of Edmonton?

Uh-uh.

10 minutes later, Florida Panthers, Sam Bennett puts one home.

Carter Verhege in Kachuck with the assist.

1-1 game.

All of a sudden, we have a tie.

Puck.

All of a sudden, what happens later in the first?

Two minutes later?

Florida Panthers go on a run.

Another goal.

2-1.

Brad Marshan within a filthy pass from Nate Schmidt.

Top drawer.

2-1.

Florida Panthers.

Now, what will happen?

Well, Edmonton answered.

Uh-uh.

Bennett.

Puts the Panthers up 3-1 with his second goal.

Another filthy saucer pass.

He goes mid-net.

3-1.

Is this over?

The Florida Panthers are going to go on a run.

Clap bomb

from Albertson.

Listen, this seemed like one that Bob should have stopped, but this thing was going 175 miles an hour.

Yeah, a bit of a screen.

Yeah.

Clap bomb in there.

Arvitson goal.

Then let's go to Eckholm, who ties it up.

3-3, right after Wayne Gretzky says Connor needs to go behind the net and find somebody who does this, that.

It goes to overtime.

Think it's going to maybe go to double overtime because how long the damn game was.

First half.

Dry sidel.

Snapshot from Connor McDavid, who has two assists on the night.

Edmonton takes the lead.

They're up 1-0 in a probable seven-game Stanley Cup Final Series.

All right, we have our game at 5.30 here today.

Then I am off to a place that I've been invited to go to that I don't think you're even allowed to say no to, but I'm certainly honored to get to.

I'll be posting about it on my social medias at Pat McAfee Show.

From all the boys here, from everybody in the back, from the crowd that's been hanging out in the rain, from everybody here in Kerry, North Carolina.

Thank you so much for hanging out with us.

Have the greatest weekend of all time.

We will see you Monday.

Be a friend, tell a friend something nice.

It might change their life.

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All right, that was good.

All right, Rovers.

Well done.

Well done.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

What's up, man?

What's that?

Shout out, Reggae Rovers.

Who?

Reggie Rovers.

Oh, I can't hear you.

What'd you say?

I don't know.

Can I take the ear?

Something reggae rovers.

Shout out Reggae Rovers.

Hey, thank you, man.

Good game.

Okay.

Was he not listening?

Yeah, he just walked on the field.

I love that, guys.

Moxie.

Love his threat.

First half, 3-0, Reggae Rovers.

Over.

Say word FC.

Over FC last game, I think.

Oh, maybe.

Say word?

Looks like a good team.

I think it's their last game.

Can you go two and one and still not advance?

No.

No.

So if you win two out of three, you're going.

I think so, yeah.

You're moving on.

But you could go one and two

if you do lose by a little bit.

So they take, I think they take top three.

They take top three from a couple of the groups.

Like we're in group F.

They called it the

group of death.

And turns out that the only death that was happening was from us to others.

Yes.

Group of fun.

But Wrexham also 2-0.

So I think like, it depends on what your record is.

They'll take top three from groups.

How many in a group?

Oh, that's it.

Okay.

But not every group gets all top three.

So if you're a one-seed, though, you get shitty

third-place team from other groups.

So really want to win your group.

So, like, tonight against Wrexham is a very important game.

Yeah.

Because in knockout round, you would like to play a team that is not as good as somebody else.

Because once you get to elimination

rounds,

it's target score time the entire game.

You're in trouble.

It's not actually, but it feels that way.

I got you.

So that'll be Saturday starts Friday.

Friday starts sudden death.

Yes.

Got it.

One game per day.

Friday, knockout run.

Saturday, knockout run.

Sunday, knockout run.

Championship on Monday.

Oh, wow.

So you could potentially be in Kerry, North Carolina, for three weeks.

Coach Gumb's got to fight Tuesday morning.

6.10 a.m.

Tuesday morning.

He's planning on pulling an all-nighter if the boys win, as he should.

Not 100% sure I'll be able to be here, especially with the invite that I received like last week, hearing that we're going to be down in this part of the country.

Also, Money in the Bank on Saturday in Los Angeles which is gonna be electrical

hell yeah we got some WWE fans around here

four letters one word

okay there's a lot of eaters here okay I respect that standing in the rain money in the bank is on Saturday then Monday Night Raw is in Phoenix on Monday

so there's a lot of things happening in my particular life before the championship but the concafel boys are locked in okay they understand that they can win at all ages they know I saw the Indianapolis outlaw early this morning in the in the lobby.

Saunner?

Yeah.

Yeah, I saw him too, killing it.

He's got an infant.

Grella was going to play golf this morning.

He said, Grela's playing golf?

Yeah, he's going to hit some balls.

He's hit some balls.

He's a great golfer.

And whatever cools the mind, whatever frees your spirit to play your best ball, especially at 5:30 against Wrexham with McElhaney and Reynolds boys.

Yeah.

We got to play well.

We got to show up tonight.

We saw, you know, Cap,

the old firm, Zat, was eating breakfast with Black Boots and Waterbug.

So obviously, everyone is.

Black Boots is Mario Alvarez.

He's an Arena League boy.

Waterbug is Pacheco, also an Arena League guy.

We also told Tony and Coach Ramos: hey, first two games are fun.

I think we figured out the 11 we need right going forward.

Seven on seven.

Of course, but we can knock some guys out.

You know,

there's an 11-man rotation now.

Well, it's like tonight, I think we need to make sure Ledesma is healthy.

Yeah, no doubt about it.

He had a little

hammy yesterday.

He said it was a cramp, had a little general soreness.

That's always scary.

He'll play.

He'll play.

He doesn't even play that much, though.

He's unbelievable.

So

porch, unbelievable.

Yes.

Meat, still unbelievable.

Rugs.

Ruggles, awesome.

Yeah.

He was going to fight a guy.

Yeah, he was talking a lot of junk.

Justin Miram.

Here's Ruggles.

Give me that.

Absolute firecracker.

Absolutely.

And then it does the nice little heel-toe.

Oh, I forget what this was.

Remember, this had a run.

Yeah.

This dance had a run.

Victor Cristo.

Is Miram?

Yes.

Miram the provider of happiness.

I don't think that's a salsa.

I believe that's a...

What's that?

Is Miram the provider of happiness?

Miram is a dog.

I got a chance to hang out with him for a couple hours last night.

He is hilarious.

He also started a war.

About 15 seconds after Breck Shea got fouled by somebody and then a guy stood over Breck Shea.

Miram felt obligated to toe poke a ball into the guy's balls.

It was like 15, 20 seconds late.

It was right in front of me.

I watched it all.

Great shot, too.

And then that started a fight.

Breck Shea obviously goes in there.

That's what our Concafa boys are about.

Absolutely.

When you want to talk about fit in the culture, too, Justin Miram has really fit the Concafer culture.

He really has.

More than maybe anybody in the history of Concafa.

To a T.

Yeah, he's in there.

H and

another T.

What's that?

Team

culture.

Yeah.

Team high culture.

Yeah, exactly.

That is our thing.

He was outed by a couple people, I think, a few different times for what his profession is off the pitch.

At the end of the day, when it's legal,

and he's awesome.

All right, let's get out of here.

Let's let these people get out of the rain.

Let's prepare for an incredible weekend.

Where I'm headed,

I don't know how many people get invited to go do.

I don't think.

Not many.

I don't think damn near anybody gets invited.

I don't think it's really a thing.

Say word FC.

It's pretty insane to think about.

This morning I woke up like thinking, this is the first time where I'm like, okay, tonight I'm headed to this place.

Yeah, this is tomorrow.

That I don't think a lot of people really get to go to.

And I was like, what should my mindset be?

Going in there open-minded.

Pumped to follow.

Like, pumped to see what you're going to do.

Do you you bring a special fit for it?

No, so every time I ask what I'm supposed to wear, because I don't want to be an asshole, they've said just wear whatever you wear.

I'm like, do you know what I wear?

I'm like, I don't think you know what I wear.

They're going to give you something to wear.

That's what that means.

They'll definitely give you some stuff.

You think so?

They definitely will.

But I don't know if it'll be at the beginning or the end.

All I got to say is, urah, my friend.

Bingo.

And it is an honor.

AJ, thank you for traveling down here.

Final thoughts on Kerry North Carolina and TST.

Well, I mean,

it's clear that you guys have the top squad, the Concafer boys.

How do you get ever scored on these guys?

Honestly, I told you this morning, with Zach back here and all the boys, like, you can't even have a shot at them.

You guys have pitched two shutouts already.

No, we gave up a goal in a first time.

In that first game,

it didn't even matter.

Doesn't matter.

Actually, it was an extra time that shouldn't have been extra time.

It was in the 42nd minute.

Yeah, what are we playing?

Phil Scrum.

Absolute shite.

Yeah, we are the biggest team out here by far.

By far.

No questions asked.

It's part of our culture.

You know, you got to get in where you fit in.

The way you fit in here is you got to be big.

We got some small guys, Picheco, a little smaller.

But he'll get rolling.

He fights, though.

Yeah, we got a lot of elbows.

Gordo.

Gordo will fight as well.

Gordo laid someone out yesterday.

Yeah, Gordo cross-body check.

There's so much, like you guys knock so many people down, it doesn't always get called.

Yeah, but you don't really know what you're allowed to do.

You're like shoulder.

You're like soccer.

I did see the ref do this, shoulder.

So I can just shoulder.

I can roll as fast as I can and blast you with my shoulder.

As long as you're near the ball.

But

I just can't extend my forearm.

Yeah, it's a push.

You got to go shoulder.

Just like basketball.

Oh, okay.

This is great.

If you're running next, somebody balls there, you can shoulder.

Okay.

If you go to leverage and lift, probably a penalty.

I can keep my little chicken wing tucked in and

okay.

I love it.

Now, there's a chance they will flop and they will call it.

Okay.

Okay, so it's similar to lacrosse.

Like, if I blast somebody in lacrosse, at least sixth grade that I watch, if the kid falls, it's going to be a penalty.

If he doesn't fall, I'm good.

Yeah, kind of.

But these refs will pass up on some dives.

They will.

Okay.

And then people will get pissed because they won't pass up on other dives.

Unbelievable dives.

All we're looking for is consistency.

Yeah.

That's all we're looking for here.

It sounds like Johnny Damon thinks the refs really screwed down.

It is coming.

Master porn.

It's a one-square loss.

I thought it was a one-square loss.

It is porn.

We had to look at it.

All right.

Boys, your thoughts on soccer, toxic table?

Yeah, I mean, I said it the first day we were here.

It shocked me.

Kind of took me back a little bit that Red Boots didn't have his red boots on.

And then I saw the way Mario Alvarez was playing out here with the black boots.

You know, hey, listen, I wish we could stick around through Monday.

That's just not feasible.

Not something I'm going to be able to do.

But I'll be locked in and making sure that the boys bring the title home.

I know they will.

I know Coach has been up there.

On the ESPN.

Yeah, on the SPN.

I know Coach has been up late, late night, drawing up set pieces, drawing up different plays, making sure that our rotation is locked and loaded.

So I mean, it's a joy every time we come down here, and it does seem like this thing has gotten much bigger than it even was last year.

Like,

this is a great tournament.

Yeah, exponentially better.

That's my big takeaway.

Do you think it's just strictly where we're staying this year?

That is a massive part of it.

I think that's a massive part of it.

I think also the set being built, massive part of it.

Not thinking about what breaking down the set right after this, what that would entail, a massive part of it.

But I think as a whole, you can kind of tell the logistics of the entire thing and the amount of craze and buzz around it.

Last year, I heard that a couple people from the area were going to come check it out.

Turns out when they did check it out on the Friday, Saturday night, a lot of people, they're expecting to come back tomorrow with all their friends, a lot of people.

So it's not just like us who are kind of a part of it.

It feels as though the town, rally, carry have kind of taken it on as their own as well, except for the one restaurant.

But it feels like they have kind of taken it on as their own.

We got a call from that restaurant.

Yes, we did.

But thank you for the call.

What's done is done.

No, thank you for the horrendous experience.

But it's fantastic.

I'm also glad that we understood what the game is.

Coming into it last year, we had no idea.

I mean, shit, the team was kind of compiled with a bunch of, you know, big field players.

Now we kind of understand what the game is.

We're not learning the rules.

It's a wonderful tournament.

Not being,

you know, not exaggerating here.

This week has been a thousand times better than last week.

I just have to.

Last year.

Last year, excuse me.

I just have to hammer that home as well.

And the guests.

We had Wayne Gretzky on the trip.

Wayne Gretzky, Johnny Damon.

Watching every team has gotten better, I think, too.

Yeah.

It's also nice not seeing JJ a lot.

I miss JJ this year.

I think he saw him last week.

I think that's why.

Yeah, you're right.

Tone, your thoughts on this?

This is your first time, right?

Yeah, but yes, didn't come last year in case lightning struck.

I was back in the Thunderdome.

You were going to host that show yourself.

Yep.

Didn't want to do that.

It's kind of nostalgic.

Like you, I grew up playing 150 soccer games a year ago in a soccer tournament.

Shout out Beedling, by the way.

I don't know if you brought that or someone gave that to you.

Boss got it for me.

Boss got it for you.

But just like how well run there's, what is there?

There's 20 fields here at least.

And there's a thousand games a day.

How well run it is and how much everyone cares and like everyone's got sponsors and stuff like that.

It's a really cool event.

Very, very excited to come back every year.

Close there.

Well, you got the wet pitch.

Doesn't remind you of being young.

Yeah.

So I watched it two years ago when Ruggles in Newtown won it.

I was watching the finals.

Ruggles, actually, as a little boy, gets tossed up in the sky in the middle of this rainstorm.

I appreciate that happening in the background there.

I watched it as Ruggles won a million dollars, and I saw a bunch of names that I grew up playing soccer with over there.

Little boys getting tossed in the backup.

I think you just do the background shot

of tone in them.

And he's down.

He's a heavier child.

Looks to be a little bit older than a normal.

I don't know if that guy's lats are dying off or whatever.

And he's back up.

And he's back up.

The boy's back up.

The boy's back up.

Is that kid?

What's up, brother?

No, it's not kid.

Kid Rock?

You think Kid Rock is like a kid?

No, we met a guy last year, or a kid, who.

Good for that, lad.

Good for the...

The guy that lifted him up has had great energy over there, too, by the way.

I think he was at Big Night Out.

That's the only way he could have that hoodie.

Appreciate you coming through.

All of you, thank you for representing.

Would like to make an early announcement.

after this show ends

we will take a couple photos

couple

cannot be standing out here for can't be getting soaked okay so let's have an organized let's have a good idea of what's going to happen here let's take some photos let's have a good time let's make sure we're not did you see what happened yesterday yeah oh yeah you brother i i it was you got screwed it was awesome to meet everybody yeah but people had no idea who i was just saw people coming there was just a thousand people.

I don't know who you are, is what they were saying in my face.

That's always,

sure, got nowhere to be.

Got it.

Okay,

so with that being said, need to meet this group over here.

Need to meet this group over here.

Need to meet this group up here.

The lads up on the hill, I appreciate you so much.

If we could set up a

set up like almost like a buffet line.

If we could set up like an up the

cover.

If we could figure out how to get a cover.

It's still on the stairs.

It is right.

One walk up the stairs.

Up the steps.

Bingo.

And then I head left.

Yeah.

Okay.

I don't know.

It looks like lightning's coming in.

Cat, this isn't.

Oh, no.

It's not.

For the safety of everybody.

Let's go.

Let's go, Mountaineers.

Guy's got a West Virginia flag up there.

I appreciate the hell out of him.

He wanted me to start a war this morning.

He wanted me to say a lot of things on camera and jump on things on camera.

I appreciate where his head is at.

To the TST people, I'd like to say thank you for the hospitality, TST people.

It's not lying.

That's lightning, man.

Oh, yeah.

To everybody in in the truck, great work back there, boys.

To the entire ESPN production crew that set all this up, we can't thank you enough for showing up early in Carrie, making this go off without a hitch, taking place, figuring it out.

We'll also be live at the finals, game three and game four, outside Game Bridge Fieldhouse in Indianapolis, Indiana.

Come join us if you can.

If not, what a beautiful backdrop downtown.

They will all be setting it up, so thank you to them.

Thank you to Scott on the jib out of Louisiana.

Scott out of Louisiana on the jib.

He's a weapon, as are his jibs.

Yeah.

He's literally jib man, jib man.

He's got a couple of the jibs that need a home, he says.

Yeah.

Wow.

He literally just walks around with least three of them things on him.

Okay.

He's got all the jibs, all the magic he could possibly need.

He's from Louisiana.

He does eat gator.

Oh, yeah.

He loves gator.

He does gator.

Have we had gator yet?

Other than those gator nuggets?

No, just had the gator nuggets.

Have not had any gator sent to the office.

We need to go down to a Scott Gator hunt down there with potentially Governor Jeff Langer down there.

I like one of them Governor Jeff Langer Gator hunts more than one of them Scott Gator hunts.

What?

But I think Scott would also say, I mean, look, I ain't no governor.

I'm just a normal Gator hunter.

Oh, you're a corporate.

I'm not a corporate Gator hunter.

I'm a premium

Gator hunter.

And I think that's what GG does.

Thank you.

Yeah, it's pouring out there.

I'm trying to figure out if we just go longer and wait for this to slow down before we go out there.

It would be very selfish of us to do that.

Or if we just go ahead and grit and bear this thing and figure out an exit.

So I think what we're going to do is we're going to head up that stairs right there.

We're going to head up that stairs.

So I think if we could get along the no, everybody's going to slip on the hill.

Back through that.

That might be something that we just have to deal with.

Yeah.

Hold on to the point.

Sometimes things happen.

Look, what do you

know matter what,

something's going to happen.

Somebody's going to be pissed.

Yeah.

We're at a soccer tournament.

I assume most of these people have boots on.

So

could you jump over the fence?

That guy's got a

what's the state?

Indiana, Alabama Jones hat on right there.

It looks like he's got it figured out.

That's a good play right there.

Tip of the captain.

Thumbs up.

All right, let's get the hell out of here.

Have a great three-day weekend.

I'm going to go experience something that

I don't know how many humans get to experience, to be honest with you.

I will document it all.

I will be on my

Instagram and X throughout it.

I don't know if I should, though.

It feels like when they gave me permission to do that, that felt wrong as well.

Well, read the room.

They gave you permission, though.

Because you also just want to experience it.

Yeah, I want to be in there.

Yeah.

You need to focus on.

There is a

pretty

heavy non-vitamin law, I guess, where I'm headed.

Yeah.

I can imagine.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think you'll understand when I get there tomorrow.

They've given me a heads up, though.

Like, hey.

Just keep it right outside the perimeter.

That's where we're going to head.

The perimeter.

Dig a hole.

Don't be giving too many of the

things.

Don't be giving too many of these.

I could have said something else, but I didn't.

What would you have said?

Rhymes with...

Nope.

Nope.

Starts with a B.

All right, we're going to get out of here.

Thank you all so much for allowing us to be a part of your lives.

Have a great three-day weekend.

Concafa plays at 5.30.

Then, if they got an elimination game tomorrow, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, we'll be following along.

Money in the Bank is Saturday.

The NBA

finals start tonight.

The NHL Stanley Cup finals continue.

It should be a great weekend of sports.

We're lucky to have to do this.

Be a friend, tell a friend something nice.

It might change your life.

We're in this thing together.

Shout out to Terry North Carolina.

Team on me.

Team on three.

One, two, three.

Goodbye.

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