PMS 2.0 1353 - Quentin Richardson, Marty Smith, Ian Rapoport, US Open Qualifier Dr. Matthew Vogt, Shams Charania, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome on this Con CAFA Eve, June 3rd, 2025.

This program begins now.

Spools are happening all around us and as we await the NHL Stanley Cup finals, which kicks off or drops puck tomorrow evening, and then the NBA Finals, which tips off on Thursday evening, we have something magical happening tomorrow from Kerry, North Carolina.

It is the TST event.

TST.

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TST!

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So you want to say TST tournament, but it is actually the soccer tournament.

So if you were saying TST tournament, it would be the soccer tournament tournament.

It would be the soccer tournament.

squared, which it should be more like cubed or maybe even to the 10th because of how spectacular it is.

There's a bunch of soccer teams coming down to Kerry, North Carolina, in battling in a seven-on-seven style of play that is absolutely electrifying for a $1 million cash prize.

Only one team can win $1 million, and we're hoping it's our team, the Concafa SC Boys.

Obviously, we got dogs all over the place.

The man's saying, shush, shush your face.

Shush, shush, shush, shush your face.

You'll get to know him over the next few days.

That's meat.

He's one of the arena league boys.

On the other side, we got Ruggles.

Okay, this guy, I guess, is the guy.

Look at it.

I guess there's him and meet on the same team is problematic for the entire TST.

And then obviously, Grela's back.

Great to see Grela back.

Breck Shea leading the way.

He will fight people.

Breck Shea will fight.

We have a tough team.

We have a team that doesn't take any shit.

And we have a style of soccer that's going to be played down there that is going to be absolutely electrifying.

Let's get to the rules here, okay?

It's a a seven-on-seven tournament on a smaller field.

In the field, Kerry, North Carolina.

I don't think I've ever seen better grass.

It looks like it's a golf tournament.

It does.

It literally looks like you're playing soccer on a fairway with how beautiful it is.

Obviously, there's bleachers.

There's tickets being sold.

Our show will be live down there tomorrow and Thursday.

And the game is electrifying.

Each game, 40 minutes with two halves, 20 minutes each, obviously.

Running clock.

Running clock.

And whenever the game is over, you know, the end of the 20-minute second half, there's something called target score time.

There's no offsides.

There's unlimited substitution.

And the only way the game ends is with a goal being scored.

And it's never over.

Nobody's ever out of it.

We were down a couple goals and in target score time, we're able to come back and hit the target score.

What's the target score?

Oh, one more goal

than what the leader has.

Yes.

Okay, so if we're leading 5-0.

Look for that to happen.

Which will happen.

Look for that to happen, okay?

If we're up 5-0, as soon as the game's over, it'll go to target score time.

The target score now is six.

They could technically score six straight goals and beat us.

That game's not over until they do that.

Every three minutes in the target score time, one player from each team is getting removed from the field.

So it starts seven on seven, then six on six.

Then guess what?

Five on five.

Wow.

Four on four, three on three.

They'll get down to two on two on this entire field.

It is electrifying.

The only way a game can end.

is with a massive goal being scored.

There's always a walk-off goal.

There's always a walk-off celebration.

There's always a moment where a team is saying, yes, we might win a million dollars.

And a team's saying, damn, we're in this thing and we let this get away.

This is target score time.

That is meat.

He was playing goalie back there.

That's why he had a penny on.

Pass it over to another one of the Arena League boys.

That's Derek Huffman.

He's back on the squad.

He puts it in the corner, and obviously the boys go bananas.

We were losing in this game down two zip.

We come back, win 3-2 in target score time.

And obviously we go crazy.

I had a torn hip flexor at that time.

from my appearance in a game previous to that one.

And I do have an upper and lower body going on right now.

Sure.

So I'm not sure how many minutes I will have on the pitch itself.

But I'm going down there as team owner, I'm going down there incredibly proud of the group that the boys put together.

Mike Foss has been acting as general manager for this team, he found some good ones.

Yeah, we got some old experienced vets, we got some guys that played in the Premier League, we got guys that are playing internationally, we got guys that are playing MLS, and then we got the Arena League boys coming in there to do their thing.

Now, the arena style of soccer, which is obviously a little bit smaller, a little bit fast-paced, a little bit more

grinding,

A little bit more rugged, I say.

A little more crazy.

Yeah, but that is what the TST tournament is about.

So we got a good group of Arena League boys that are back.

They are going to steal the shine.

They are going to steal the show.

They are unbelievable.

Then we got some outdoor soccer guys that have incredible resumes joining them.

And I think this team, led by

Coach Tony Maola.

Wow.

Coach Tabaramo.

Wow.

And obviously.

Coach Bubba Gampino.

Coach Company Hall.

I think we have a chance to maybe win this thing.

Last year we got getting the hang of it.

I think we got to the quarterfinals, had some electrifying moments.

This year it feels like we're more prepared.

Feels like the games are going to be electrifying.

And it's not just us.

The other teams have gotten better as well.

This TST is wonderfully run.

Obviously, it started with TBT, the basketball tournament.

Whenever they saw the success of that, the founders of TST approached the basketball tournament people and said, we think we could run like a soccer version of this.

Is that okay?

They come to a deal.

TST, already bigger than the basketball tournament by far.

They sell thousands and thousands of tickets.

The amount of merch that is sold, the amount of ex-players that come back and the vibes of this entire tournament, ridiculous.

What they do is a beautiful thing.

We can't wait to get down there.

And the Concafa boys, oh, oh, oh, Concafa.

Feel good.

I had a scrimmage last night down there.

Oh, how'd it go?

Boys are rolling.

Okay.

The boys are fast.

The boys are ahead of schedule on what the style of play is.

Last year we got dropped in there.

Didn't have any preseason.

Didn't have a training camp.

Playing 7-on-7.

A lot of guys play 11-on-11 soccer.

Had no idea what the the fuck they were doing.

So they had to kind of figure it out as they were going.

We kind of learned as we went alongside the Arena League boys.

This year, it feels like we got a better head start.

We're ready to go.

Let's go to one half of the hammer.

Don't cowboys, Bubble Gompino, coach of the Concava squad.

Obviously, Gumpy, what are you looking for the boys this year?

And are you trying to tally more than two yellow cards like you had last year?

Maybe going for three, but I love this squad.

It is absolutely stacked.

top to bottom.

As we found out last year, as the tournament went on, we kind of ran out of steam, had guys playing playing full games.

This year, we just keep the boys rolling, and everyone's just going to keep doing their thing out there.

Okay, we're playing some tough teams.

Oh, yeah.

We got Bournemouth, coached by Josie, out the door.

We got Wrexham.

I believe they're going to be playing down there.

And who else is in our group?

Real Atletico.

Yeah.

Okay, anytime you got the Atletico.

Is that the death group?

That's when you...

Shout out to YouTube, TV.

Shout out what?

What?

Cool.

Yes.

Yeah, being a sports fan isn't easy, is it?

No, not at all.

God, we talked about this with the the Pacers.

We talked about this with,

I think we talked about it with the Fever last year whenever we were trying to find.

We talked about it with

Pittsburgh Penguins.

Bro, it is easy, actually.

Just pick good teams to root for.

Yeah, but

that's what Pacers, okay, that's what I'm talking about.

They're tough to find.

Yeah, true.

You know, it's not easy.

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And also, Gombler.

They didn't say that.

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If they get in trouble for that, that was on me, not on them.

But stats,

highlights,

everything.

That is a big part of that whole game.

But also, if you're just a fan, you want to learn more about the team that you love, player that you love, YouTube TV says,

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Innovations in television that have made my life a lot better.

First downline.

Yep.

Huge.

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Apps.

Major.

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I mean, that is one of the biggest things that has ever happened to television that I've been super pumped up about.

And then you think about the multi-view with the four of them.

I assume inevitably it was going to happen.

You know, everybody will probably have this at some point, but shout out to YouTube TV getting that done for us.

Kind of judging.

Building your own is everything.

I hate when they make force me to watch.

So that's how it started.

Remember, like, here are your options, and then now it's developed so much.

I assume that's a lot of shit to figure out

to put in there behind the scenes.

And everybody will wind up doing it, I assume, at some point.

But congrats to YouTube TV bringing that into our life.

All you got to do is scan a QR code to score YouTube TV for $59.99 per month for two months right there.

Okay, that's cheap, I believe.

That's cheaper.

I believe that is a deal right there.

$59.99 a month for two months.

Shout out to YouTube TV.

We do appreciate the hell out of you.

Yeah.

I mean, I'm spending every single Sunday all day with you, YouTube TV.

And you've made my life easier and better.

Shout to them.

And TST is about to be electrifying.

Because now we talk a little soccer.

Let's talk to the boys a little bit.

Let's go to the talks table at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt.

Ty Schmidt, first of all, big baseball conversation yesterday with AJ Hawk.

Jack Caglione, this guy out of Florida, he's the one.

Yeah.

He is the one.

I saw the reaction.

This guy hits like Aaron Judge and Shohei Otani.

That's what Jet Passing said on this show yesterday when Darius Butler and I were

at maybe the most

wonderful.

Oh, that's a wonderful thing.

Feels good.

I mean, it was a beautiful, beautiful funeral.

Beautiful.

It was a beautiful funeral.

I don't think, I don't think I've ever been to a funeral where it was like everybody there was like, yeah, that was how it was supposed to go.

Like, that is exactly what

Big Man, Boss Man, Jimmy, J.I., Jim, James, Dad,

you know, boss, everything, all the titles that he had for all the people that were there.

It was beautiful.

I mean, this choir, I think it was the Eastern Church Choir, I think was the name.

I should have looked that up.

I apologize for them.

Incredible.

Black choir, two whites, two whites, had a guy on piano, had a guy in the back.

I don't know what he did.

I still don't know what he did.

I think he was just there for, you know.

D-Buck sitting next to me and goes, D-I-Hire, top row.

He probably had good pie.

Bringing the bass.

He was doing something.

Whatever he did, he did his part.

He was part of it.

Whatever, that whole group, they need to know, they brought it.

I don't even,

we're talking standing ovations in a funeral for the choir.

And then all the daughters spoke, and I thought they did a wonderful job, by the way.

That is incredibly difficult.

Obviously, that many people, let alone everything that's been going on.

And also now the amount of pressure and expectation that are on them to lead the Indianapolis Colts going next.

And I think with everything I heard from them, I think they are prepared to be great NFL NFL owners.

Obviously, they've been in it their entire lives.

And listening to them speak and the way they handled it yesterday was, everybody that spoke, I feel like, had a different angle, which I don't know if they all got on the same page and did that or not.

Different story, different perspective.

There was even a conversation about everything he's given back to, obviously, the recovery community, which I don't think any of us in there knew.

Like, hey, you know, Jim built like the nicest in.

like the country.

Did you know?

No, obviously you didn't know that because this is just something he did.

Like all the stories that were just kind of coming out yesterday were all awesome.

Then there were some videos that we hadn't seen, some songs we hadn't heard, then his band performed at the end.

Yeah,

I don't know who he was.

Great tribute.

Oh my god, Ax-Man brought it, shredded.

I mean, like, legitimately brought it home.

It was just uh, it was like a perfect celebration of Jim Ursa yesterday.

And uh,

D-Butt, myself, and my wife, um,

we sat amongst all the NFL owners

somehow.

Literally, just completely.

Did well was to my left.

Rooney was to the left of him.

I believe McCasky was next to Darius.

Woody Johnson was there.

Raj was there.

Haslam was there.

Mara was there.

Great posture on Mara.

Perfect.

This guy, he was right in front of us.

Did not even, didn't even think about slouching, which easy to slouch in those church pews, especially without...

Perfect posture the entire time.

I think it was a beautiful celebration of Jim.

Legitimately.

So many good stories.

Big man was definitely happy looking down.

Like you mentioned, celebration, you know, celebrating his life, celebrating the, you know, the legacy that he left behind.

Hearing his daughters, you know, we have kids.

And like, you know, at some point, you know, hopefully, you know, your kids are there to say those words and speak about you in that tone.

And we know him as a boss.

A lot of people know him as a boss or whatever he was in the community, but to see his daughters, his grandkids there, it was an amazing service, and I'm sure he was happy looking down for sure.

We cried,

laughed, sang, clapped, and honored him.

I mean, I think it was like,

it was perfectly done.

I don't even know if that is something you judge is how funerals are done, but that was, I think, perfectly handled.

And the card that they gave out with his quote of, we are not human beings having a spiritual experience.

We are spiritual beings having a human experience was just like such a perfect, every quote they read was about being different.

And everything that he was about is like, you know, it's just, it was a cool moment.

It was a cool moment.

But while that was happening, okay, catching up with everybody, you guys were talking baseball in a big way.

Jet Passing came on here and heard everybody's talking about Jack Caglione.

This guy's the next big one.

I didn't know about him.

I had to watch a clip to learn about it.

You guys did some great journalism.

And it's not about the MLB right now.

Right now, it is about college baseball and college softball.

There's some magic happening on these diamonds.

Seven innings in softball, electrifying.

And then nine innings, obviously, in his college baseball, it's been electrifying.

There's been a lot of shit happening in college ball and stick sports, Tosh Schmidt.

Yeah, I mean, in terms of college softball, I think what we see is like you see like the real blue bloods in it are always going to be there, and that's why it's so awesome because you a lot of times are getting, hey, these are the two best teams left.

You know, like last night, I believe it was Texas Tech who took out Oklahoma.

Obviously, we've had Patty Gasso on the show before.

Pat, you went down and kind of spent some time around Oklahoma.

They're the top of the seventh, down two, two strikes, two two outs, last inning, last at bat,

two-run shot from Oklahoma.

Exactly.

So, I mean, like, Oklahoma, again, they're one of those teams.

You give them a second life, like, more often than not, they're going to win.

Texas Tech, we talked about it a couple of days ago with D-Butt.

They made kind of waves.

They went out and spent a million dollars on one of the best college softball players.

You don't want to say poached her from Stanford, but that was an offer.

That's kind of the climate that we live in.

And she is an absolute dog.

She has thrown every single pitch in the College World Series for Texas Tech so far.

And will and behold, they're in the championship series right now.

Yeah, with that being said, top of the seventh, Oklahoma hits a two-run shot on Najari Kennedy.

I believe I'm saying Najari Kennedy.

She's from Stanford.

They got a million-dollar

recruiting

whenever she hit the transfer portal.

And now, you know, there's always going to be people saying, oh, Texas Tech is just buying a victory.

It's like, that's what college sports are.

And if women's college softball is making a million dollars, I think that's good for sports.

yeah that's not bad for sports and she's lived up to it she was the college uh player of the year last year obviously she was highly sought after i think there was a story about alabama recruiting her and maybe coach shaben saying how can i help i think there was some other schools that were like trying to put everything together to get her to go there she ends up at texas tech and now they're in the the final because after the bot top of the seventh texas tech sack fly bottom of the seventh this is all happening in the final inning boom wins the game walk off texas tech heads to the finals.

Congratulations to women's softball.

Yeah, for sure.

People are making a million bucks, and it's electrifying.

Yet again, every year it feels like we watch this and we go, damn, damn, damn.

UCLA will do something.

Oklahoma will do something.

Now it's Texas Tech.

Oh, you was defending champions.

They went on four Pete.

Yeah, four peat.

Four in a row.

Now Texas Tech obviously going to get Kennedy, but now this is their first success ever on this level.

They never had a World Series win, period.

And now to be in the title game is unbelievable.

I was at that Oklahoma softball facility.

We're talking full stadium, full facility.

Gasso statue.

I mean, Gasso deserves more than one stadium.

Yeah, she did have that last year debut or whatever while she's still coaching.

It's like a million bucks from Texas Tech.

There's hundreds of thousands going to a lot of different players all over the place.

It's like this women's softball.

And I think I started paying attention to it a little bit more because Shane Leckler, the retired punter, GOAT in my eyes, his daughter, I guess, is a very good softball player.

So every time I would call him to ask him to do something, he'd be at another softball tournament.

And he would tell me about it.

He comes to Indiana for a softball tournament.

He's like, yeah, there's like 70 teams in a tournament in Indiana or whatever.

You start learning about it.

Then went out to Oklahoma.

It's like, damn, this is a thriving sport right now.

And every single summer, whenever it plays on ESPN, it captivates for one reason or another.

Usually it's electrifying.

Last night, top of the seventh, bottom of the seventh, game tying dinger, and then a sack fly to win that thing with the super.

superstar of college ball taking on the reigning giant.

It's like, that's a perfect storyline.

That is a, that's dream storyline for college softball and it's awesome every single summer.

Yeah, and I'm not sure how the rivalries are in college softball, but I'm assuming Texas Tech and Texas have some sort of bad blood.

Like the environment now tomorrow night and Thursday night will be electrifying because it's the entire state of Texas.

I assume no matter where this game is, there's going to be a ton of fans and just bragging rights in general.

Like Texas Tech wins.

I bet Texas is going to have a couple million dollar players next year to get back at them.

Yeah, I think they're not not going to be the only one, brother.

No way.

I mean, there's going to be Oklahoma knows that they're probably going to have to up it too.

I mean, that is, I think the people, the girls that were pitching to me were transfers in to Oklahoma like this past offseason after they won another national championship because they're hitting a transfer portal as well.

It's a great sport.

It's fast.

Yeah, hey, so fast.

Is that normal for the Aces to pitch every day?

Yeah, that's why, I mean, this is one of the few sports, you know, people bitch about, you know, like certain college football rosters spending a bunch of money.

Like softball, if you get a pitcher like, you know, Kennedy, like you, you could completely change the entire season.

Because it's a natural motion, they say.

Right.

So it's just like a rotational thing as opposed to a

tiring.

I assume you do wear out your arm for sure.

But they're saying it's a much more natural motion as opposed to what a throw overhand throws.

Not snapping anything off and like putting a lot of stress on your elbow and stuff.

Like I'm sure like their biceps and shoulders can get pretty sore.

I mean, she's thrown, she threw 130 pitches the other night.

It says she's thrown 300 pitches in three games.

Like, that's a lot on the human body and on the arm.

But yeah, it's not like throwing a baseball 100.

How about when they tonight?

It's intimidating.

Oh, yeah.

It's absolutely intimidating when they fall.

You've seen the fastest.

I was standing there in the batter's box, and it's just like, wow, it's so fast here.

It is so fast.

It's rising.

Yeah, right.

Both of them.

The risers.

Yeah, the risers.

But Jenny Finch was so popular because she threw literally every pitch for Team USA.

and Arizona or whatever.

Like that's how like, because they are literally, their face is there every single pitch of every game.

Yeah, the riser is a problem.

The riser looks like a beach ball coming in.

It's like, oh, wow, that one looks much nicer.

And it ends up in your face.

Yeah.

And I was like, how do you...

I mean, the last two nights, those two home runs, as soon as it's off the bat, they are shocked.

It's gone.

Yeah, because they are throwing it so hard.

Okay, let's go to baseball.

College baseball has a lot going on.

Upsets go over.

The SEC.

Uh-oh.

Yeah.

Hey, Greg, Sankey.

Hey, Sankey.

What's going on down there at the SEC?

We need more It's going to get loud.

It's going to get loud down there.

Yeah, that's a good question.

You look at, I mean, 13 teams made it to the tournament.

And as you can see, there are four teams in the SEC left.

Most of these teams, too, in the SEC,

they're hosting these regional sites.

So they're playing tournament games on their home field, in front of their home crowds.

And I'd be curious to ask Greg Sankey because I feel like baseball is one of the sports that they really don't have to put too much time and energy into because the SEC just dominates.

Like, you look at the MLB draft every year.

Most of those, like, really top-end talent, they're coming from SEC schools because they can play year-round.

But that's the thing about college baseball and with these metal bats and just like the game in general.

Like, you're seeing a lot of teams, a lot of these teams even don't have winning records, but they're going.

Even last night, you know, LSU, they got taken to the absolute brink.

They were losing almost the entire game.

Now they have some of that top-end talent who eventually got West Virginia right now, so good luck.

Exactly

good you guys still can feel the team, yeah.

We had five guys that don't play that want to leave.

Get it, get out.

Oh, those are makes sense, they're rotting the pond, and they just said I'm out.

I know it wasn't old buddy that did the thing the other night that got us the big win.

I know it wasn't him.

It probably Guzman wasn't Guzman, brother.

It wasn't.

I know it wasn't Guzman.

Yeah, I don't think it was big bat.

Don't you worry about our team.

Where's Connecticut?

Do you guys play baseball?

Do you even know what a bat is?

We do.

I think we won the Big East this year.

Okay.

Doubt it.

You guys enjoy it.

But we'll see because now we have the Super Regionals.

And from the Super Regionals, that's who we're going to find out who's going to Omaha.

It's one of those things.

There's still a lot of blue blood, still a lot of good teams up there, but it is crazy that, because usually when we get to the College World Series, there are...

five teams, four to five teams every single year from the SEC, and then you still have the UCLAs of the world, you know, kind of like the perennial powerhouses, North Carolina, Duke, teams like that, who are good every single year.

But

if you went into this season and you asked every person who really follows college baseball, like big-time pundits, they would tell you, yeah, we could have never foreseen that nine teams from the SEC would be eliminated in the first round of the NCAA tournament.

It's crazy.

It's fun to watch.

We appreciate them doing that.

And shout out to the SEC baseball atmosphere.

It feels like anytime I watch one of those, it is electrifying.

Turns up a little bit whenever you get to Super Duper Regional and head over to Super Duper Omaha.

That's right.

shot.

UConn lost in the Big East Championship.

Oh, no.

Those are three teams in that entire conference.

You guys came in second.

It's all right.

We got a banner this year.

Who'd you lose to?

As a program, as an entire program.

You guys lost to Creighton.

Creighton's good.

Good squad.

They are good as good.

Omaha times.

Omaha, you know, that's where the College World Series is.

Beautiful town.

We're supposed to go, Ty.

I think you said you would go.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, not from college.

Yeah?

Yeah, I love the College World Series.

It is.

What's that place where you're buying all the shots for everybody?

Yeah, the bar.

I don't know.

I don't know the name of it, but yeah, they buy the jello shots.

But we'll see because that's usually an SEC thing, and we might not get any SEC teams who make tournaments.

I think Tennessee has broken the record in the past, I believe.

I know, but they still got to win their super regionals.

That's it.

Stagier LC bought more jello shots.

That's a good dinner out of that bar.

Oh, yeah.

Hey, who's going to buy the most shots?

Five bucks a piece.

Yeah, you won't buy 2,000 of them.

You won't.

We did.

Those small schools that show up, all that bar has to say is like, well, you guys are in SEC schools, so we know you're not going to touch the record.

Please Please don't worry.

Don't worry.

Coastal Carolina, Murray State.

There's no way.

West Virginia, there's no way you people from Oregon can drink as much as the people from Tennessee.

So why don't you just,

I do believe.

Because I remember, because I think Payton was down there.

I think Morgan was down there.

I think Clay Travis was down there.

I think there was a bunch of people down there over there.

And it was like, we got the record of the amount of shots.

I'm like, good for the bar, dude.

That's a good setup.

You won't buy 10,000 of these.

Wash me.

38,000 is what they bought last year, Tennessee.

Unbelievable.

What a weekend.

Yeah, unbelievable.

Good for the bar.

I bet second was 20 grand.

32,000 Texas ANL.

Jeez.

What's the name of the bar?

Rocco's.

Rocco's.

Rocco's.

We can't wait to stop by Rocco's.

$5 a shot.

Yeah.

Make enough business for the whole year in one weekend.

Yeah, so when Western gets our nose, we're going for $39,000 of those things.

Okay, not just me.

We're going to need some friends, but we will certainly go for it.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who played 13 years in the NBA.

He's co-hosted the Knuckleheads podcast, friend of the program, and he had the Knicks, I think.

Oh, of course.

Yeah, he played.

Who did?

Oh,

he's a basketball guy talking on TV.

Definitely had the Knicks.

And he has the Thunderwin in the title.

Oh, yeah, like everybody does.

Ladies and gentlemen, Quentin Richardson.

Damn, Richard.

What's going on, bud?

What's up, fellas?

What's up, fellas?

Nice shirt there.

I see you.

A nice little t-shirt.

I see you.

Yeah, I see.

WWE Shop.com, you know, immoralize forever on cotton this moment.

It was a game tire.

He thought it was a game tag.

Did you see the guy that got that tattoo on him?

Some Pacers fans got that tattoo.

It was pretty sick, too.

Yeah, I saw it on the outside of a guy's calf.

Feels like that's regrettable, but hey, nowadays, who cares?

Who cares?

You know, let it eat out there.

This shirt is available at wwe shop.com.

Tyrese Halliburton, obviously, second place.

for the Eastern Conference Finals.

Larry Bird MVP Trophy behind Pascal Siakam.

Doesn't matter.

Okay, doesn't matter.

We're on to the finals.

We're on to the finals.

What do you think it was about that Pacers team that solidified an Eastern Conference Finals Championship?

And when did you know?

When did you know that the Pacers were going to run the Knicks out of the gym?

And I'm not saying the Knicks are a bad team.

They made it to the Eastern Conference Finals.

I got nothing but respect for the way they played.

But when did you start to feel like, oh, this is the Pacers series in this entire thing?

Well, I mean, obviously, after that game one, when they stole that away from them like that,

that was the soul snatcher.

So I felt like that was the, you know, right there.

That was when I really said, uh-oh, they could really go get this thing.

But I mean, as far as the other day the last game that first quarter I can remember in the first or second quarter just look watching the game and looking at the pace and at one point Stan Van Gundy said it he was like this pace and the way everything is going this favors the pacers and and I and I felt that and you saw what happened in that third quarter and the fourth quarter moving on they couldn't keep up with that pace and I think like Miles Turner said in one of the interviews he was like you know their

togetherness their continuity and the cohesiveness that they've developed over being and growing up together and having those guys together.

I think that's winning right now, man.

You got to look at that with OKC and this team.

The teams that have that cohesiveness that kind of come up together.

They're the teams that's shining right now.

They're the two teams left in the finals.

Ob Toppin hitting his head off the rim seemingly every night and getting chants from the entire crowd was awesome to watch.

You're talking about freak athleticism there.

I mean, he's real tall.

Bunnies.

And he jumps so high every time.

After the national anthem plays, he turns around, jumps on the rim, hangs on it, and then jumps back up.

He lands it like a free thriller.

It's like, this guy is explosive.

This is unbelievable.

Let alone everybody.

Namhard, Thomas Bryant, those bananas.

Obviously, Neesmith hit five of six threes down the stretch whenever they needed him to.

TJ McConnell come in and bop some wood, won't he?

Hey, he'll get in there and bop some wood.

Yes, he will.

He certainly will.

And then Carlisle.

Big TJ McConnell's fan.

I love that dude.

I love the way he go ahead and mix it up every time pittsburgh guy we appreciate the fact he's an nba player i don't know how many of those guys we have in the history of pittsburgh not a lot

uh and that's just

That's just reality of this

as a football title.

If you have the size to play hoops, they are going to try to get you fatter so you play offensive line or defensive line.

That's how it goes.

So TJ making it is great news.

And you talk about the pace.

Coach Carlisle told us that going after last year, after the Eastern Conference finals, the big offseason combo is like, we got to be better conditioned.

We got to be better conditioned.

We got to be better conditioned.

Do you think OKC is a team that's going to be able to keep up with the Pacers conditioning?

Because it feels like everybody but the Celtics, the last two years during the playoff runs, nobody can keep up with what the Pacers' conditioning is.

OKC, the same exact build?

And what does the matchup look like, you think?

I think it's going to be intriguing, man.

I think they both have, you know, teams that go deep into their rosters.

They play 9, 10, 11 guys at different times, and they really rely on their bench and they strengthen numbers.

But

I don't think OKC's pace is as fast as the Pacers.

I think that they obviously are one of the

league leaders in pace

for the NBA season.

But I think they have the youth and they have the bodies and they have the players that can keep up and be in transition.

And they can do their runouts and get in transition as well.

So I think they're equipped to handle it.

But I think traditionally they don't play.

Nobody plays as fast as the Pacers, really.

I was in Tulsa last night.

They love the Thunder out there.

Yeah.

Live for it.

They absolutely.

It was awesome.

It was really, because I came out.

I didn't know how it was going to be actually because I was like, ooh,

ooh, we are in Oklahoma.

Like this entire thing, I've almost become one of the pseudo-mascots of the Pacers publicly because of the whole sons of bitches ears ringing situation.

You know, that whole thing.

So I've got to become, I put myself up, I'm a big fan.

I like, I'm a big fan of Tyrese Carlisle.

See, I like the way these boys play.

See, Akam, I love the way the team plays.

So I go in there and there's just signs as soon as I'm coming out.

OKC in five in my face.

Macfe love you.

Thunder in four.

A lot of that, a lot of those chance.

I was like, I like this.

This is about to be electrifying for the finals.

This is guaranteed to go 6-7 or is there a chance that Oklahoma City who's this minus 700 right now to win a series?

That's a huge favorite.

Actually, I got some stats here from Hembo.

This nine and a half point spread.

in this first game.

Oklahoma City is favored by nine and a half in this first game.

That is the largest spread in an NBA Finals game since 2020 when the Lakers were favored by 10.5 versus the Heat in the bubble.

It's the largest game one spread in the finals since 2018, when the Warriors were favored by 13 against the Cav.

And since 1991, the only team to lose a finals game when favored by 9.5 or more was the Lakers in 2001.

Game one against

the Philadelphia 76ers with Alan Iverson scoring 48 points.

So basically, all things are saying the sports books are normally pretty right whenever it's this big.

And when it gets this big, it's not normal.

What are your thoughts on the spread?

And what are your thoughts on how the series is going to go?

I'm horrible.

I'm like

a novice at betting and all of the minuses.

So I don't even get into any of that.

I don't even try to figure that out.

But I'll say this.

I think, obviously, OKC playing at home, like Pat, you're talking about that crowd.

Like, they have one of the sickest.

crowds in the league.

If not the best, they are absolutely in the top tier of whoever else is out there.

But they crowd is literally the closest thing in the NBA.

I feel like you get to a college crowd with the type of, with the way they come up in there and they get after it.

So I think that's a huge factor that they have going in there.

But also, like, when you look at what happened between these two teams during the season, and I agree, these are two different teams right now.

You know, obviously they've been the best two teams down the stretch coming into this point.

But if you go by the season, you know, Tyrese struggled mightily against them and SGA did not.

So if you're looking at that, that does not bode well.

But I mean,

I don't like to try and use that as a comparison now that we're in the finals because I feel like, like I said, these are two absolutely different teams.

But I feel like whoever's able to, you know, force their will on the game because...

SGA,

he's a lot different, Pat, than what you saw from Jalen Brunson.

Jalen Brunson was the smaller guy, compact, doesn't have the, like, SGA is a legit 6-6.

He's getting guys up off him.

He's going over guys, and he, obviously, leading scorer MVP He is prolific at putting that ball in the basket So he is gonna be a handful for sure.

He's a foul artist as well same with Jalen Brunson, which is a talent.

I don't think it's a negative.

I think it's a talent to be able to put yourself in a position to get the whistle There's never been there's never been a dominant scorer in this league that wasn't a wasn't a foul artist Pat don't let anybody Michael Jordan Kobe Bryant James Harden all of these guys They're big time

getters.

They get to the foul line.

Look it up.

They are up in the in the in the all-time leaders of free throw attempts.

Like when you look at Paul Pierce, T-Mac, all these guys, they got to the foul line.

Anybody who scores the ball at a high clip, they normally get to the foul line.

That's a part of it.

Yeah, and then I think

Crawford told us, Crossover told us, that if you're to eliminate foul shots from everybody, SGA is still the leading scorer.

So in run of play, he's still the leading scorer as well.

So not just...

You can take his fourth quarter points away as well, they say.

I saw the same thing he saw.

Fourth quarter throws, and he still leads the entire league in scoring the guy's unbelievable they got a lot of guys over there that are great jalen will also pop it out of nowhere and then chet what's he doing too much feels like it's going to be a great series uh i can't wait now on that note you talked about sga there legit 6'6 does not look like with the way he moves no does not look like with the way he moves yeah way too smooth to be six foot six you're supposed to have a little horse you know like baby horse sure when you're that tall you know somehow able to move like that

that would be so cool to be able to.

Imagine walking into an LA fitness.

It'd be fun.

6'6 being able to move like that, put a headband on, do your entire thing.

Unstoppable.

Let's get all the fouls.

When you look at the numbers he's put up, like...

His numbers say that no one can stop me one-on-one.

Like, he scored 30 over 50 times in a season, scored 20 over 60 sometimes.

Like, that's legit saying league-wide, no matter what defense is happening, no matter what's going on, they can't stop this kid.

That's scary.

And he bought Rolexes for the entire team when he won the MVP.

Seems like he's the perfect guy.

You know, never acts.

You got a tough face this team coming to time.

Yeah, SGA.

On that note, Connor has a question for you, Q Rich.

Yeah, it might be time to revisit that Paul George trade.

I think you could consider that as the worst trade in NBA history now that SGA is an MVP and they're in the finals.

But, Q Rich, what individual matchup are you looking forward to the most?

Is it SGA and Nee Smith and kind of the other guys that they're going to throw at SGA?

Is it, you know, Jalen Halliburton, Alex Caruso on Halliburton?

Or is it the new haircut, Chet Holmgren versus like Miles Turner?

Kind of kind of like a new.

That was the real thing with that haircut?

No, no, no, that was NBA Senta.

I was just joking.

But which matchup are you?

Sentel was running wild last week.

Yeah, still is.

Oh, my.

People have not caught on yet.

Jeez, Barry made an appearance here yesterday.

Cochner's still throwing his fastball.

When your league gets bigger, yeah, you got to start getting used to these things.

Sentel's throwing his fastball still.

Jeez, the Louise.

Anyways, sorry.

I think I'm most interested to see who do they.

I believe they would probably put Lou Dort

on.

I think he'll see Pascal and Tyreese.

So I'm interested to see who this dude, Lou Dort, is a unit.

Do you hear me?

He is a unit.

He is a problem out there.

You gotta watch.

No, listen, I'm telling you, Pat.

He

can go one through four with anybody.

Something five.

So I'm interested to see how they deploy him and who he has to guard because it's going to be a long series for whoever he's on.

So I'm interested to see that.

I think Tyrese has to be somewhat like one of the better players for the team for you guys to have a chance.

He can't have the subpart games here that he has to be like the star Tyrese this whole series for you guys to even have a chance because they are so elite at guard play that if he doesn't play well, I don't see how you guys could do anything.

All right, well, good luck to Tyrese.

I think he'll rise to the occasion.

Good luck to the Pacers.

And I can't wait to watch this OKC team do their thing.

Legit.

And shout out his Pops, man.

Pops got a Heroes welcome after the game, man.

I was watching them come down.

I know that had to feel good.

Come on, man.

Out of the arena.

Then when he gets brought back, they bring him down to the court.

That was dope to see, man.

Shout out Tyrese Pops.

Yeah, shout out John Halliburton.

Pops, free pops, though it's backwards.

He's not in jail.

Let's not get crazy here.

He was sitting at home.

That's what Tyrese said.

Very nice, home.

The game three, whenever he was up in the suite, he had this neon blue hoodie on.

Like, I was like, I wonder where it pops is.

And then literally just sticks out.

Like, he's right there.

And he stood the entire game, obviously, just like he was courtside.

And then whenever they win, and he's allowed to go down and celebrate, man, what a moment.

Did you see him?

I saw him in the back.

I saw him in the back, yeah.

He gave me a hilarious speech.

He said, I'm not going to say what he said there.

Is he allowed to go courses at the finals?

I think, you know, because they said indefinitely, they never gave like an actual time frame.

And his boy is playing in the NBA finals.

Oh, mo.

I mean, this feels like got to let him back in there.

But also, they don't want people to think like, hey, we're okay with like people getting on, like, because I think that's a big deal in the NBA world because of how close fans are.

Like, I think in your guys's world, if I've kind of come to understand anything with the way players act with fans, I think there is a build-up tension with how close fans are and how they feel like they just got a ticket to say whatever they want to people with how close close they are with basketball.

I feel like you guys have to deal with that a lot more.

That's why whenever a player snaps finally, I don't think it's just that night.

I assume it's probably 20 nights leading up to whatever's taking place.

History of the Pacers, too.

I'm not saying that.

That's never going to change, man.

That's always going to be a thing.

Our fans get some of the, you know, get closest, like probably the closest to the action of any fans that, you know, out there.

And my experience is like

if you're very direct and you concise and you say the thing and you say the thing the right way to the person,

they'll know that they're messing with the wrong person and they'll kind of leave it alone.

So

I've seen that happen a lot too.

Yeah, I watch James.

If they're so close, that's who, like, you got to tell them the right thing.

Like,

I had to tell somebody right one time, like, yo, like, you do realize that, like, you are right there.

Like, I understand there's rules and there's things, it's invisible lines, but, like, I can reach out and touch you.

I'm very much bigger than you, and it will be very easy to harm you.

Like, bro, just, you know,

very easy to harm you.

Girl, you don't want to be embarrassed right now.

Like, just like, we are very large human beings that are five feet from you.

Like, don't do it.

Don't do it.

Like, it's a couple guys over here that will take that fine.

I'm just telling you, like, don't do it.

Very easy to harm you.

I'm looking at you right now.

You ain't got it.

Yeah.

Okay.

I hear what you're saying.

Hey, you ain't got it.

We got a lot of guys.

I was on their bench.

I mean, I was on the pacers bench with where we sat.

I was in there.

I heard what they were saying.

So much so that I actually heard James Johnson talk to a New York Knicks fan that was front row, probably six feet behind us, and what he was saying.

And

I mean, he verbally decapitated this man.

James Johnson did.

And it was a problem.

But with how that went, I just thought to myself, damn, they are in here.

Like, I could see that getting Oklahoma City's fans, from what I've been told, it's just like college atmosphere.

Yeah, right.

They're in it.

Thought it was been the stars.

Yeah, it's just a, yeah, it's an interesting, I'm excited to watch it.

But yeah,

the back and forth between players and fans in the NBA, I think that's the most personal because you are in.

I mean, I'm getting rebounds.

Yeah, I'm getting a ball.

I'm handing it to an NBA player.

Here you go.

You go out this right here.

That's like, oh, nope, bitch.

Listen, follow you.

Detroit, the visitor seats in Detroit, it's literally like the size of a space.

Like, think about the seats on the bench, right?

It's literally like a space.

where they took a seat out and then it's it's fans right there.

Yeah.

They're like on the bench almost it's like i don't know if they've changed it yet but like that's the way it used to be and that used to cause a lot of issues with the chirping back and forth because it's like they just being fans but like you too close to be that animated as a fan like just even if you're not saying anything to me i'm gonna be annoyed that you're this close to me

and i can hear everything that's being said i can hear everything that's being said whenever i'm down there It's like, so you got to act like you're on.

The guys don't, though.

I'm happy they don't.

I'm happy they're able to get into a zone where they don't even think about people being two feet away from them while they're bitching or complaining or talking because you could potentially feel guarded because like i have no idea who this person is that has a camera on me two feet away from me uh but do you it's an interesting sport man i'm very fascinated by the nba obviously making a lot of money those courtside tickets yeah those things are pricey

access cost now but they get right up into action like you said they right there Yeah, I was in it.

It was a lot of money we paid, but I mean, we were definitely on the page.

Subhere clip of like, I think, late, great Kobe Bryan.

I think it was

Chris Rock was like, probably like this, this just talking.

Kobe is just locked in.

He's, I mean, he wasn't talking shit.

He was probably trying to say some funny shit and just locked in.

So, yeah, being that close to the action is nuts.

And he was saying a lot.

It was like him and David Spade.

And David Spade's like pissing his pants, laughing at what Chris Rock is saying.

And he's going.

Kobe is not even flinching.

He didn't even flinch.

There it is.

There it is.

Did we miss it?

No, no, no.

Let's zoom in.

Oh, what?

They're going to show Kobe.

Kobe is not the same.

Jeez.

That's like Matt Barnes.

That's Matt Barnes and Kobe with the thing.

All right, let's talk a little bit of Lakers, shall we?

Go ahead, D-Butt.

Yeah, I don't know if you saw the clip of Luca being a guest on Mind and Game Pop, but if you haven't, we got it right here.

I want to get your opinion on it.

I think it'd be unfair for the audience if we didn't ask you off the bat what it's like playing together, how you feel playing with LeBron.

I know you looked up to him as a kid, and now you guys are teammates.

I mean, it's great.

You I've never played with a guy like this.

And you know, just being traded to here to LA, I mean, it was different.

But just to play with guys like him, like, it's unbelievable.

Like, I could learn so many stuff.

You know, first of all, off the court, you know, all the things he does just to be ready for the game.

And obviously, on the court, everybody knows what kind of player he is.

Give me an example of a couple things you've seen, like being around him every day where you're like, he does that?

Like, what's he doing over there?

Like, is there anything that stands out initially where you're like, Wow?

Oh, first of all, he shows up like 10 hours before the game.

So, that was really the main language.

I was, what?

I came into the arena.

22 years,

he was already done working out.

I was like, What?

I just got to the arena.

He was already done working out, buddies, what Lucas said.

Yeah, that's crazy.

So, like, did you have an experience like that?

I guess seeing it from an OG, seeing how they work something that changes, because everybody comes to the league with that elite talent.

But what is like the difference or what type of impact do you think this will have on Luca going forward?

I think it'll be very positive, man, to be able to see, you know,

get a look behind the curtain to see what somebody like LeBron, who's been doing it for 22 years, who's known for being in the best shape and keeping his body right and being one of the most best conditioned guys ever to play.

And that being something that, you know, that Luca, that they have highlighted that Luca needs to work on, I think it should be great for him

being able to watch him and learn from him and see what he's doing.

For me, when I came in, that person was absolutely it was Ray Allen when I came in I saw you know I got to the gym one day this is when we were playing and you get to the arena and it's like who out there already like they out there with the with the with the you know the little slam team the people that's doing the the the flips off the trampolines he didn't move

getting the cheerleaders out the way he was there that early and I was like I saw that I was like damn you know like Ray Allen like going crazy with it he here like for he getting here before the home team and he was this was when he was on the road he was coming to LA as a a as a visitor and I'm like, yo, like he already here.

So like then once I saw that, like I changed my routine.

Like, all right, cool.

I'm going to get here before everybody.

So I can get all of my shots in.

Nobody else is out there getting work in.

You can get through your routine and get your stuff down and get your feel in.

And then you can go back and chill.

You can get, you know, a hot tub, cold tub, ice, whatever you want to do, get your mind right.

But you don't got to worry about going out there while the other team is out there, this thing.

You can do whatever you need to do if you get there early enough.

So that's what I took from that.

Is there a chance that Luca had had no idea that you were allowed to do that?

Is that real or no?

Like, he said he's never seen that before.

Like, is there a chance that Luca saw it for the first time and was like, what?

Because I think Jay Will told a story on here about playing against the Lakers.

It was the Bulls versus the Lakers, and Kobe was whatever.

I forget what time it was in the morning at the thing.

And Jay was like, geez, I had no idea you were even.

So, then Jay Will tried to come earlier.

Well, Kobe just set him up.

Kobe came earlier the next day, or whatever the case is.

It feels like you hear some of these legendary tales from the basketball world, but is there a chance that Luca didn't fully understand that that was like allowed?

Like, how does that go about?

I don't think at this point, because at this point, everybody has their own facility.

You can go into facilities 24 hours, get shots late at night, do different things.

So, I don't think at this point, but I mean, I don't know, maybe he didn't, but I could see for real Jay Will back in the early 2000s.

It was different then.

Like, Kobe probably had keys that nobody else had, had, you know what I'm saying, flexes.

Did nobody, like, back then, everybody didn't have their own facility, and it was different things.

Now, in this day and age, literally everybody has their own facility and different things to facilitate.

Literally, you can go in the gym 24 hours a day now.

That's a big difference from when I first came to the league in 2008.

Everybody, like, literally,

our practice facility with the L.A.

Clippers pet Southwest Los Angeles Junior College in South Central L.A.

Do you understand me?

We did not even get to take showers after the practice.

We had to put towels on our chairs and on the seats of our car and ride home for wherever you got to go and get your shower there.

It was like, it was like, I'm telling you, it was wild.

I don't want to judge too much.

I don't want to judge too much, but I've been in that area.

I don't think you're even allowed to wear Clippers colors outside there, right?

Oh, no, it's very, you know, you like, listen, you had to know what was going on.

You had to understand what was going on out there.

Like, you pulling out and it's like, sometimes we would be getting out of practice, the school is getting out, and it's like, they like, yo, oh, they on the car, like, ask them what I'm like, who is this?

And it's like, you can't, like, it's like, you got to be kind of cool because we come in here every day.

You can't be in here being no, you know, no asshole and tripping because then it might be a problem.

So it's like, we were really in the hood with it.

Like, that was a different time, literally.

Yeah, now Ballmer built up the Intuit Dome and everything that's going on

in most toilets on any arena

in the entire NBA.

We appreciate the hell out of you, Q Rich.

You're the man.

Yes, sir.

Anytime, fellas.

Ladies and gentlemen, Quentin Richardson.

Yay!

Showing up, South Central L.A., Shoot around at a high school gym.

I guess I'll shoot around.

I guess it's practice.

Yeah.

Donald Sterling football.

Hey, you know,

why is the best owner?

I mean, all those people getting out at once, too.

Oh, that's a nightmare.

Jumping on Aston Martin.

The thought of just an Aston Heart rolling through your high school, what the who is.

I did hear Donald Sterling was going to all those practices.

Sure.

Oh, yeah.

He had a place right there.

Let's pivot away from the NBA and let's go to some magical stories that are happening in the golf world.

Ladies and gentlemen, joining us from ESPN.

He has the best southern accent you've heard since McGee.

Ladies and gentlemen, Marty Smith.

Yay, Marty!

Never Settle, how you doing?

What do you say, boys?

How y'all doing?

I hope my signal holds up.

I'm out here in the country.

I

was driving back to Charlotte from Dirty Myrtle.

Took my son down there.

He's working the Carolina Country Music Festival this weekend, slinging beers, moving around heavy stuff, doing all the grunt work, and to be 19 years old with all them pretty girls for four straight days, that boy's living right.

Yeah, down at Myrtle Beach, too.

I mean, that is a,

I don't want to say that is a white trash paradise, but I will say, as somebody that would be potentially considered from a white trash place, heading down to Myrtle Beach is always a great time.

Joe's, I have never had a bad time in Myrtle Beach ever.

I don't think ever.

So good luck to your boy down there at the concert.

Let's talk a little bit of golf.

I see you holding a golf ball.

You might have just got off the course down there in Myrtle Beach.

A lot of great golf courses down there.

U.S.

Open.

What is that, Augusta?

Oh, you bought that.

I'm trying to figure out how to do this the right way.

There we go.

Oh, wow.

That's a $700 ball right there.

That's unbelievable.

Don't lose it.

Don't put it in.

You can't hide money, Patty.

You can try, but you can't do it.

You live it every day, big boy.

Don't put that ball in the woods.

Okay, somebody will come scoop that up and act like they're you.

Let's talk about the U.S.

Open, though.

Yesterday, I believe there was nine qualifiers.

I believe there's 12 in total because there's one in Asia.

There's one in Europe.

Obviously, there's one in Ontario that was held yesterday.

Nine different qualifiers.

Obviously, the big story was coming out of Columbus, Ohio, where Homa, Fowler, Young were all battling for a sixth-place finish to get into the U.S.

Open.

That came down to a missed three-foot putt, actually.

And those boys are missing the U.S.

Open.

This is a great time of year.

And how How do these guys get into these tournaments?

You just got to show up?

Is that what happens, Marty?

How do I get into this U.S.

qualifier that happened yesterday all around the country well you gotta you gotta qualify to qualify to qualify and

u.s opens 156 players

of course it's at oakmont uh here next week a place i'm sure you're very fond of

um

Incredibly hard golf course, maybe the hardest in the world, depending on who you ask.

And you have to be so precise there.

And I'll tell you, if Scotty Scheffler fellas is not the,

if he is not such an overwhelming favorite, like we're talking Tiger Woods at his highest powers type of favorite, then they're not doing it right.

This place,

it demands precision.

And right now, his precision is just historic and remarkable.

So,

yeah,

it's golf's toughest test every single year, and this year will certainly be the case.

Yeah, I think the rough U.S.

Oak at Oakmont, U.S.

Open.

Oakmont, obviously in the East Hills of Pittsburgh, right there near Plum.

Okay, it's in Oakmont, which is a different town, but it's right next to the Plummont.

The majority of the course is in Plum.

Yeah, a lot of Plum representation

representation there at Oakmont.

They got rid of Oakmont East.

We told the story a thousand times.

That was the public course that was next to Oakmont.

That was a good time.

They had a 18th fairway that was downhill and straight long way.

You used to get trash bags, obviously, in the winter, break into the course.

You're flying down.

That was a Oh, it was great time.

That's awesome.

I mean, you're talking about a great time on Oakmont East.

They have since demolished Oakmont East, made Oakmont bigger, batter, and better.

And that course is a beautiful one, and it's going to test everybody.

You talk about Scotty Scheffler being amazing.

And obviously, we talked about the qualifiers yesterday.

Did you hear about the dentist here from Indianapolis, Indiana?

Matt Vogt actually qualified for the U.S.

Open.

He's originally from Seneca Valley, which is in western Pennsylvania.

He grew up when he was in college trying to become a dentist out here in Indianapolis, Indiana.

He caddied at Oakmont.

His father passed away two months ago.

Obviously, the U.S.

Open at Oakmont is on Father's Day weekend, and he's Nick Beraldo's actual dentist here in Indianapolis, Indiana.

You're talking about a magical story there.

That's what the U.S.

Open, I think, kind of is, though, in the lead up.

It's like, hey, no matter who you are, if you play great and qualify, you can maybe change the trajectory of everything.

And this dentist might do it, Marty Smith.

Well, I loved seeing his emotion in the aftermath of qualifying for the tournament.

And throughout the entire post-round interview, he was doing everything he could not to break down emotionally because it's one of those moments where you have a dream, you let the dream slide a little bit and go fix people's teeth and do root canals and give them crowns and whatnot.

And now here you are, you're going to be playing against in the same field with the best players in the world.

And that's the magic of that event and i just can't wait to see what he does and how his story unfolds throughout this next i guess it's next week but just fabulous um it's one thing that that makes that tournament unique and uh if anybody happens to have a an issue with gum recession during the week he'll be able to take care of it yeah obviously and uh hopefully he'll have his little axe pick thing that everybody hates seeing coming in their mouth i mean nobody really enjoys the dentist experience Is there anything worse than that?

I mean, there are, there are very few things in the world

that are more, that make you more vulnerable than sitting there like that.

Yeah, just like that.

I was going to do it, but I didn't want to end up on the internet.

You're on there right now, Marty, and nobody would do that to you.

Nobody would disrespect you.

Nobody would ask Brock to make it look like Marty is at a dentist's office right now with his mouth open, getting a drill pounded down in there.

And you got to have good vibes because nobody's coming to you happy.

Nobody's going to the dentist because they're happy, always miserable.

And the schooling to become a dentist, impossible.

Terrible, they gotta do like actual doctor shit.

Oh, yeah, and then they get you're not an actual doctor, you're a dentist.

It's like, well, I just went to med school basically for the last four years, do this entire thing.

And while he was doing med school, he was still able to keep his golf game at a level where he's qualified for the U.S.

Open.

I don't know how.

Me neither.

I mean, I don't

know how he was able to do that.

Like, if you, you have to, if you're a great golfer who's a Sunday or who's a weekend hacker who's scratch or a plus or even somebody who can you know be a six handicap you got to play all the time and if you're somebody that's good enough to do what he's done i don't know what his i can't wait to learn what his schedule was yeah legit i mean that's a real question uh on how he's able to figure it out and i don't i don't know personally but there can become a time where he's like i don't want to be known as the dentist guy who's gold i just want to be judged off my golf it's like well bud if you spent your entire life focusing on something other than golf and you're still in the u.s open that is worthy of being told congrats to matt vote now he's not the only one to qualify that's an insane story as we're running up on a hard out here go ahead time yeah marty what about the uh 17 year old kid mason howell who shot 63 63 to qualify do you think we'll see anything special out of him i mean i i can't imagine any 17 year old is going to be able to take on oakmont with how long it is and and the rough and everything but what do you think about this story i think it's amazing i mean my my son's 19 and can't get out of bed and tie his shoes in the morning.

So

I can't wait to see what that kid does on the eighth.

Have y'all ever heard of a 300-yard par three?

Get out of here.

Like, what?

What are we doing?

That's classic U.S.

Open.

We're going to be down in your world here starting tomorrow.

Done has a quick question for you.

Yeah, Marty, quick.

Any must-go spots or must-go-to spots down in Raleigh when we're down there next couple days

oh i didn't know you guys were coming to raleigh that's awesome are you coming to see us

i might be able to come over i got see mcgee and i are going to uh nashville tennessee oh hell yeah to the cma fest we're going to interview a bunch of country music singers on the southeastern conference network hell yeah and uh

so we'll be tearing up nashville while you guys are in raleywood

make sure nice make sure you get you some cue all right

get you some North Carolina barbecue.

And look, vinegar cue is the best cue.

Don't let anybody steer you different.

I respect Texas.

I respect Kansas City.

All of y'all are great, but we make it the best down here.

All right, we will definitely try that.

Here's you at the dentist, by the way.

Shout out to Grock, technically carry your teeth.

No open mouth.

You're the greatest.

Marty, you're the man.

Guys, I know we got a heart out.

I just passed a 1987 iRock Z with T-tops and white letter BFGs on it.

Oh, hell yeah!

Are they smoking sigs?

When I start making that Pat McAfee money, that's gonna be in my garage, baby.

That's like,

I mean, you know, speaking of the beach, that guy's been to Dirty Myrtle, Daytona Beach.

Ladies and gentlemen, bro,

much boy.

Dirty Myrtle is awesome.

The best.

I've literally never had a bad time there.

Nope.

What a wild place.

Everybody understands what the deal is, too.

Which is why I like it.

Good luck to Marty's boy.

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Hello, beautiful people.

And welcome back to our humble abode, the Pacer Dome.

On this Conquer Eve Tuesday, June 3rd, 2025, our two starts now.

Sports!

Somebody tweeted me that, and I think it was a good call.

The Pacer Dome.

Can't be the Thunderdome, Oklahoma City.

Oh, that's a great point.

Somebody tweeted me that.

I wish I could give them credit.

Somebody sent me a tweet and said, don't you think maybe Thunderdome not good this week?

And it's like, You're right, welcome to the Pacer Dome, baby.

I don't know.

The Pacer Dome kind of stinks, it does stink, and we all, it's more so like, Oh, you think we're new to this thunder shit?

Nuh.

Ah,

thunder dome,

pacer,

pacer.

Welcome to the Pacer Dome, brother.

I mean, Pacer.

Welcome to the dome.

Derek.

It is great to be here.

We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living.

We talk about sports every single day, and we're thankful that we get to do that.

We are the luckiest people on earth because you decide to watch or listen wherever the hell you may be.

And we'll continue to do this for as long as you'll show up.

Speaking of showing up, tomorrow we'll be in Cary, North Carolina, live from TST.

And it is going to be a glorious few days as we find out who's the million-dollar million-dollar team taking on the soccer tournament.

Is it everybody else or is it Conkeva SC?

Our team's ready.

Our team's rolling.

Our team's experienced.

Our team is getting paid.

Sure.

Our team is getting paid.

It's fair.

And our team's ready to take on this mountain, this beast that is the TST.

And I want to let you know when these boys get rolling, and Jeff Cameron back right corner there, we kept him on the graphic just strictly because of what he's meant to the team over the last two years.

He will not be playing.

What?

What?

Why?

On man.

He has a lower body.

I got an upper and a lower body.

Captain America?

That's bad.

Yeah, we got a couple.

We got two lower bodies and an upper body between the two of us.

They got dip.

That's real bad, man.

Yeah, we got 18 players ready to go, though.

18 players ready to roll.

Ready to roll.

Mike Foss.

Ready to roll.

Ready to

roll.

JJ Watt took a shot at Mike Foss the other day.

I think it put a chip on his shoulder about the size of his brain.

I don't think that's what JJ said.

JJ was talking about the size of his head just as a whole the fore part of it and then the brain in there is just so big he's ready to go he's in shape he's it and i've been told by zano gorela

hasn't stopped working since last year wow so like last year he was getting into shape now he's like he's a real heart soul he also owes us yeah exactly yeah he tried to tear the entire team down But I think he understood when he looked in the mirror.

He was in the middle of training at that time.

He was all just a bobby leg.

It's also in his blood.

You got to give him a break.

It's in his butt.

Yeah.

TST is a soccer tournament that happens in Cary, North Carolina.

It's seven on seven.

It is electrifying.

It is a smaller field.

It is two halves of 20 minutes each, 40 minutes in total.

Running clock, let's keep this thing moving.

There's no offside.

It is unlimited substitutions.

Now, sub cannot step foot on the field until the person steps off the field.

Red card.

If you step on the field before the other person is fully off the field.

Had to put that rule in because the first TST, subs were happening real loose.

You know, there was like eight guys on the field, field, nine guys on the field.

So they said, you can't come on the field until the other person is completely off the field, or it results in a red card.

What that does is open up some.

You know, you got some real shots.

It's an electrifying style of soccer, and it only ends with a walk-off.

It's called target score time.

If the leader has two goals going into target score time, which is the end of regulation after 40 minutes of play, then the target score will be three.

Even if they're up two to nothing, the other team can come back and score three goals and win this thing.

You're never out of it.

And the only way to end the game is by somebody making making magic.

For instance, this is three on three at this point with a goalie.

That's our Arena League boys.

That's our TST team player, meet feeding Huff, me with a torn hip flexor and Gumpy after his second yellow card going in and celebrating alongside the boys, the arena boys, the outdoor boys.

As we tried to chase greatness last year in Carrie, we'll try to do the same thing this year.

Key rules, no drop kicks are part of our goalkeeping.

Sure.

No.

No slide tackles.

To make sure they monitor the slide tackles this year.

I have heard that in our preseason scrimmages, pre-tournament scrimmages last night, there was three of them our team played in.

Reports coming to me that we had three guys did slide tackle members of the other team.

Yeah, let that go.

Get it out now.

One of the guys, actually, potential two-footed.

Slide, just set the tone.

I'm just looking for consistency.

Cleats up?

Yeah, two-footed.

Cleats up.

We won't say who it was.

I think we all know.

Then there was also a, I believe there was a little bit of a, it was not Gordo.

there was a little bit of a mix-up i do believe i i believe the boys are uh that's why they call it a friendly the but it was not and why are the boys are squirrely the boys are already

a little bit greasy out there and if you don't have a little bit greasy i think there was a couple greasy plays by the boys but hey i don't know what they did to us sure for us to answer in response i was not there obviously i was a monday night raw in tulsa uh but if you do not have a team to pull for in tst uh which i assume is not many yeah i know everybody's a fan of the agent

have already been pledged I understand that.

It's big TST.

There's a million bucks on the line.

You're going to be able to find this all on ESPN Plus.

You're able to find these.

I believe I'll probably be commentating most of the CONCAFA games.

I assume I'll have a microphone near me.

Owner, you know, I got to make sure the boys are doing what they're doing.

But if you don't have a team, we would welcome you to the CONCAFA Club.

We would welcome you to CONCAFA SE.

We're a team you're going to like.

Physical team.

Physical.

Explosive team.

We buy jerseys.

Is there merchandise available?

There is merch.

I believe there will be CONCAFA merch there, which we are very thankful for the TST folks for hooking it all up and Mike Foss being on top of it all as our general manager of CONCAFA.

Our team's explosive.

Our team's very talented and our team will fight.

Like that it, that has been set.

Our culture is we will fight.

Maybe even each other.

Bingo.

We'll fight each other.

We'll fight the other team.

We are a scrappy group that you're going to want to get behind.

And we have the best chant in all of TST.

Oh,

Concaf.

That's me.

Blasting one home.

Look for more of that in target score time.

And

let's continue this conversation.

The talks and tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt.

Hearing good things about Stephon Diggs up there at OTAs.

Oh, yeah, great things.

I mean, even off the field, a lot of people still thought they were great things.

It's just some people viewed them a little differently than others.

But yeah, Stephon Diggs looks fantastic.

Good vibes, teaching a lot of the younger guys.

And, you know, I think someone said he's six months and 25 days removed from his ACL tear.

And he looks extremely fast.

Here he is with Kayshawn Booty, and they're going around the cones.

He's moving.

Yeah, he's catching up to him.

He's beating him around those cones.

So vibes are very high in New England.

Drake May was also 14 of 16 yesterday.

Okay, and stats in these are going to be tough to keep up with because who's practicing what, who's in where?

Is this the first time they're running a play?

It's hard to just go off of stats in OTAs because you have no idea who's working on what at that time.

Because there might be some DBs working on some new shit, so they might get cooked.

Now, there also might be something the quarterback's working on where he might be missing a little bit.

So it's hard to just judge specifically off of stats and OTAs.

You got to watch the film.

And the film that I saw, Stephon Diggs, not just out of the practice, he posted something on Instagram of him working out.

He's out of an ACL right now.

And obviously everything else that has been talked about, very much so.

It's unbelievable how fast, explosive, quick.

And his hands are just so seemingly spectacular all the time.

Yeah, a lot of times there's always a lot of other shit around like wide receiver ones specifically.

But when it comes to the work and the work ethic, like Stephon Diggs is up there, tier one, always has been in his recovery what he's been down doing down there with uh Cherie from day one uh down in South Florida recovery now I love seeing him back with the squad on the team you just build that camaraderie you're in the meeting rooms obviously you're in a new place you're getting used to your quarterback the timing things like that and I'm not sure who he was on the sideline with I think it was Baker maybe

number one and just kind of you know schooling them up teaching them some things saw the same thing with Puka and Devontae like that's Those are the most valuable things for this time of year for the vets being around the young guys and just dropping that game game on them day in and day out.

Yeah, there's Puka and Devontae and Puka would be a sponge.

If we know anything about Puka, Puka's not scared to ask questions.

He's not scared to listen.

And he has enough ability to adapt anything that Devontae is giving him into his game.

That is quite a duo over there in Los Angeles that I just got reminded of with Matthew Stafford spinning it with Sean McVay's big brain and the run game that they had down the stretch in a playoffs.

Good luck to the Rams.

Going back to Stephon Diggs, I think everybody thinks about him at the Bills and then it ended.

And he goes to Houston.

He obviously gets hurt.

When he was playing with Houston, he was playing well at Houston.

Remember, CJ Stroud was doing it again.

And he had Stephon Diggs, and Stephon Diggs gets hurt.

When he got hurt, what was he?

I believe he was seventh in the NFL in catches.

I'm not sure how many touchdowns he had, but I know he had two week one in Indianapolis.

So people acting as though he was, you know, bad last year.

And I think that might have been because the Texans and him agreed to a one-year deal, so he wasn't playing on big money.

But he was seventh in the NFL in catches, and C.J.

Stroud was top five in passing yards.

And we saw kind of what happened happened in the middle of the season with the Texans where they kind of fell off and then completely went to, you know, Joe Mixon and Grant and Nico Collins also got hurt.

But acting as though Stephon Diggs is just some schlub now is a little ridiculous.

And if he can get one or two of his men.

Anytime you get into a very public relationship, that's going to happen.

Yeah.

People are going to attack you.

I mean, that's what it is.

But he's built for it.

Stephon Diggs is built for it.

He is very much built for it.

You're talking about on the field?

Yeah, I'm saying like when the contract was signed and it was three three years, $69 million, and everyone was like, what an overpay.

And then, of course, after the fact it comes out, you know, it's really a one-year deal with 15 million cash and a bunch of incentives.

But when that happened, I meant is when everyone was acting like yourself, look, the guy likes to be on a boat and have some fun.

Who doesn't?

I do.

Okay, but he just happens to be Stephon Dick.

They said it was Himalayan seesaw, baby.

Yeah,

look, it's also international waters.

There's no laws out there.

Yeah, it looked like.

Were they gambling out there?

He wasn't because he wouldn't go to the one Jeopardized game.

He just wanted to have a having a good time.

It all makes more sense.

I think there was a chef on board.

Boy, he told me Cardi Cook.

Yeah.

Caught him?

Caudi?

I mean,

whatever the case, him playing football, he's unbelievable.

That is, and you talked about how wide receiver ones, every once in a while, there's going to be a, hey, you're going to have to

have to deal with that.

Yeah.

What's that?

Oh, he's dating one of the biggest stars on earth.

It's like, that's either good or that's bad.

How do you view it?

Well, it's like, well, in the offseason, whenever there's a free time, there's probably going to be stuff that isn't necessarily, this is how a robot should operate as a professional football player.

But then whenever Cardi B's coming to the games,

and she's with Kraft up there, John Bon Jovi, bingo, you know, and all of a sudden we got that thing rolling.

It's like, I'm happy for Stephon Diggs.

And I hope he knows how great he is, and I hope we get a chance to watch it, you know?

I hope we keep the main thing, the main thing, always, because of how great he can be.

And everything else, go live your life, brother.

One half of the hammer.

Cowboys, AP Tonis here.

You look great, brother.

Thank you.

Appreciate that.

No problem at all.

I think your cowboy hat thing needs to stay.

You remember, he thought about stopping?

Remember, he became baseball cat when everyone was around?

Yeah, he didn't want to become like a one-trick pony.

I think you look good in the cowboy.

Thank you.

I appreciate that.

Um, I did look myself in the mirror after you said that.

I've been on a cowboy hat run here.

Now we're traveling this week.

It's a real pain in the ass.

Yeah, the cowboys need to figure out how to travel with these things.

Yeah, I thought you did.

You got the cool magnet thing.

Yeah,

that's a lot.

And then the backpack thing that got sent to us, it's a lot of space, but not a lot of things.

Yeah.

And because you got got to keep the thing inside of the hat you can't even fill the bag with other shit no it's literally just a full bag for one hat yeah it's a tough it's a lot it's a tough maintenance this is summer the ventilation up there oh the straw the straw yeah that's a memorial day to labor day situation brother yeah it's like white pants yeah when you put that on i like it and then the other one is uh felt felt yeah for the for the for the colder months now that particular uh

style of brim yep it's called something yep it is toying to the right no

i think think it's a JB brim, I believe.

Yeah, there's a bunch of different styles.

You walk in there and they got them all laid out.

Think it's a JB brim.

What haircut do you want on this thing?

Do you want any of the rope around front there?

You can really get

it.

Oh, they like.

Oh, yeah.

They're shaping it.

Oh,

heater, I think.

In the back, heating that thing.

Yeah.

A man who needs to wear a cowboy hat, maybe.

Amen.

Yeah.

Got a chance to see him at the end of the day.

Thought he did a fantastic job.

Very thankful for him traveling out here to host this show live from the

Pacer Dome.

from the pacer dome

oh

oh

got a logo

huh i i think this is a bad idea i'm a pacer fan i were what are we scared what are you what are we what's this so there was a guy named raven stall who's the mayor of pittsburgh he changed his name to steeler stall week of the ravens Did they win?

See, that's a great idea.

Did they win?

That's a great idea.

That was fence time.

Yeah, he was Steeler.

I'm Mayor Steeler stall this week.

And the Steelers won.

So when I read the tweet of the person that said, are you sure about this Thunder Dome taking on the Oklahoma City Thunder?

I was like, you're right.

It should be a Pacer dome like fucking Ravenstall did.

You're right.

Now, with that being said, there's no way.

Yeah.

There's no way.

100%.

I had to be the favorite mayor of all time in that city.

Dude, I don't know if any mayor is a favorite in Pittsburgh.

You got to remember, Pittsburgh is not like the most, yeah, you're doing a great job company or outfit.

They went crazy when he announced that, though.

Well, he made a whole declaration.

I do believe.

I think there was an entire from this point forward, whereas I will be known as Steeler Stall, I believe.

Some people still call him Steeler Stall.

As they should, I would have.

Is he still the mayor of Steeler Stall?

No, no, no, certainly.

No, no, no.

Yeah, I think he.

Who is the mayor?

That's a great question.

I think it's Marco Boli.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, live from an attic in Ohio.

College football national champion, a Super Bowl champion.

I'm happy I pulled that Ravenstall thing there.

That feels pretty good.

Did they win?

Oh, yeah.

Yes.

Okay.

2009 was a good one.

They won a Super Bowl.

Yeah, exactly.

Pacer Dome.

But did they win Ravens week?

Oh, no.

Yeah, they won the AFC Championship to get to the Super Bowl.

Steelers stall.

I think we're actually scared.

It was either

the one where they beat the Cardinals or lost the Packers.

I can't remember.

Whatever the case, whatever the case, we still made it.

We still beat the Ravens.

Steelers stall, Lord.

It was a Dobbin collector.

Ladies and gentlemen, A.J.

Hawk.

Yeah, Harker.

You're growing your hair out.

I saw it yesterday.

Maybe you just grow that thing all the way out and just threw the fool on.

Nah, you know.

Yeah, just trying to get a haircut is a tough situation.

Keep it the Thunderdome.

Don't worry about it.

It's about us.

It's not about them.

It's never about the other team.

You stay you.

We'll say it, A.J.

Did you not hear the Steeler style story?

Yeah, did you hear it?

I didn't hear that.

It's amazing.

That almost pushed me over the edge and made me think, all right, maybe this is a genius idea.

But no, I think Thunderdome is fine.

I can only go off my own experiences.

So when I see the mayor change his name and it's a success success story,

I just think to myself, maybe we should think about it.

Whatever.

We'll vote on it at the end.

Maybe Carlisle, something with Carlisle we could do.

I'll call it the Carlisle Dome right now.

Car Dome?

That'd be sweet.

I like that.

Yeah.

Carport.

Because that's where the real advantage is in this series.

Rick Carlisle.

Carlisle versus Diego No.

Like, that's the one.

That's not.

What was that?

That's the one.

That's how you say that.

That was an elaborate scheme to say Dango, though.

You know it was.

What?

Yeah, you saw your opportunity and you took it.

He seized it.

And that's disgusting.

That is not his name.

You guys reacted and made me laugh.

I seriously don't know.

Just real quick, though, just for legitimate purposes, this was a real thing that is Mayor Steeler stalled.

Okay, that was...

All right.

Hey, look, here's action news right there.

KDK is on it.

We're here for you, KDK.

You know, that's where.

You know, many greats were, including Sally Wigan.

Have you heard about Sally Wigan?

And she might be WTAE, actually.

Sally Wigan, big fan of the program.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We need to know that.

She was was at Big Night Out.

She was at Jelly Roll and Post Bloom.

She was there?

Yeah.

That's awesome.

I was trying to figure out what to say to the Pittsburgh crowd about how everything great comes from this place.

So I talked about Iron City,

talked about Permanis,

I talked about Joe Nardo.

Rest in peace.

Obviously, everybody had a quick moment of issue.

Sally Wigan, one old letter.

Big pop.

Fedco, big pop.

Ken Pompey.

I should have put Pomp in her.

Did Mitchell Kenneywood?

I had a Kennywood hat on.

Did you see it?

Oh, okay.

Did you see the Kennywood hat on?

And it was on the big screen.

Yeah, so it was speaking for itself.

Everybody knew what the hell I was talking about.

Shot Steve Littleman, Kennywood Insider for us.

Saw some tweet out there, actually.

What is that?

What do you mean?

What's that?

There's insiders for amusement parks?

Yeah, he's worked there for so long.

He kind of knows the ins and outs of a place.

You know, he knows what's coming.

He knows what's happening.

Steelers spent a day at Kenneywood the other day.

I saw that.

Of course they did.

They got to get people in the park.

We know that.

After seeing them, some of the Steelers at Jelly Roll and Post Malone, I'd like to say Steelers might win the Super Bowl.

Hell yeah.

Steelers might win the Super Bowl.

Herbig, this guy, big fan of the way he operates.

Just kind of how he goes about doing what he does.

Yeah, Keanu as well.

Keanu, absolute dog.

They are the Guardian Cap

generation.

I let them know that.

I let them know that they were the...

What did they say?

Oh, I'm glad you let them know that.

I said, it's your generation that became the Guardian Cap generation.

And there was no response.

There was a lot.

I heard there was a response.

It was a lot of response.

They just pointed out that some teams use them more, and the Steelers happen to be one of those teams.

No, the Steelers happen to be a team that doesn't use it all.

No, no, I believe they said one team used them more than any other team.

Yeah, they said they did the research and the Colts had the most.

I don't know anybody.

That's because we got the smartest team.

That's not real.

Yeah, well, you mean like most guys wearing them in gameplay?

Is that what they mean?

Yeah, practice and gameplay.

Whatever the case, it's 33%.

Exactly.

You did a math, you started adding up to it.

That's 66%.

That's 200%.

That's 133.333%

that you kind of get, 66% you don't get, and then you double that.

Obviously, you're up to 132-ish, and then all of a sudden, holy fuck, now you play football, bingo!

You can run your head into anything now.

Now it's just you're basically using your shoulder, your head's not even existing in the entirety.

Why are we not wearing Guardian caps and cars?

I am.

Oh,

I think that's just joining us now, ladies and gentlemen.

Yeah, senior.

Grock can do anything, I learned.

He can.

And I'll tell you what, people got real creative, real creative on it.

They got real creative out there.

Now I'm seeing Grock ask for permission to do things.

Like somebody asked to put, you know, Michael Colflex in last night and in a tank talk.

Somebody asked to put some terrible things on that picture of Michael Colk.

Like what?

Hitler mustache.

Yeah, and Grock goes, I'm not going to do that.

And then I think the guy says, come on.

And then Grock goes, I can do another mustache.

And it's like, I can't do that.

Also, Grock has some there are boundaries.

It'll put me in the middle.

Could you work around it, though?

Could you work around it and say, hey, give me the mustache that Michael Jordan had in his Haynes commercial back in the day?

Could that get around the parameters?

Michael, maybe.

I don't know.

Why don't you try?

Why don't you get in there and try?

Why don't you give yourself one of those?

Let me kick the tires on Grok a little bit.

Give yourself one of those.

Shout out to Michael Cole, by the way.

Jacked.

He's good, man.

Absolutely jacked.

I saw the internet did its thing with him.

My favorite one that somebody sent me, I don't know who made this.

I apologize for not giving credit.

Graham, show me those big muscles.

He was pretty good.

Obviously, yeah.

That was incredible.

It was absolutely incredible stuff.

Shout out to Michael Cole doing that, especially in Oklahoma.

Yeah.

You know, and I heard there were some people that may be pretty against this happening.

Who?

Yeah, just some people potentially against it happening.

Thunder.

I'm very thankful for Triple H going, oh, no, no, no.

You are definitely wearing a tank top out there.

And Michael Cole's been running four or five miles a day for seemingly the last couple years, working out.

Now, he does have a little bit of a gut.

He's an older gentleman who drinks a lot of beer.

Yeah.

Okay, so that's going to stick around.

But you could tell that he's really working on it.

He's jacked up.

Yes.

And the Oklahoma City people reacted in such a beautiful fashion.

They were pumped for him, and then they were booing him.

It was a magical moment.

He does look jacked, though.

He does.

He should have stood up to Gunther's damn self.

I agree now that I'm thinking about it.

He was built like that.

Jeez, Michael Swole.

Well, I'm thinking about how good Gunther is.

He just ragdolled Michael Cole.

Just picked him up, up, scooped him up, put him in a choke,

started the entire thing.

Shout out to Michael Cole and shout out to TJ McConnell.

That's Game Worn Jersey.

Boom.

A little tight.

I think TJ has seen it.

Yeah, from what I've heard, there's been a positive reaction from TJ McCole.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a senior insider for the NFL.

We have a Kennywood insider now joining us, senior NFL insider for NFL Network.

Ladies and gentlemen, the host of the weekly wrap-up with Rap Sheet and Friends, us being the friends, he'd be in Rap Sheet.

Ladies and gentlemen, he in wrap-up law.

And if you're wrap!

okay so hi guys uh i have some questions actually two questions one and i don't mean this in any sort of shot at micro pole

no i i really don't i'm just curiosity he shaved his armpits for that pose or is that a normal course of action oh i don't know i didn't even notice let's zoom in like look at the armpits he's like you know what i'm gonna pose down get me the bic or you know whatever your razor of choices and maybe people don't use bics anymore give me the gillette like i don't people are going to see the armpit hair.

Can't have that happen.

Shave right away, and then let's go.

Is that what happened?

Interesting.

He might be a guy that doesn't have armpit hair, though, either.

Like, a lot of

I don't have a lot of armpit hair.

I don't either.

And he has no chest hair.

Yeah, I don't have a lot of armpit hair, but I got like, yeah, I got back hair and chest hair.

So I got like a lot of chest hair.

Hairless guy.

I got back hair.

I don't have like prominent armpit hair.

It's not like a thick armpit hair.

So maybe he just has like a lighter armpit.

Like a naked coal rack.

I call shenanigans.

No way.

You're saying he shaved his pits well done hundreds

i would bodybuilders do yeah isn't that like a wwe superstar thing definitely or shave

he could have he could have waxed or laser also options

so wwe and bodybuilders very normal to shave whole body correct have tans a little bit of lotion on it glisten a little bit

yeah he didn't do any tanning or glistening i see so i don't think he was preparing too much but he certainly has been working the upper body no doubt about it okay let's move along what What does your shirt say?

Say boob?

Oh,

put it in the books.

Mets shirt.

Let's go Mets.

Big Mets win.

Big Mets win last night.

I was sleeping, but one against the Dodgers and extras.

I saw online people were saying it was a battle of two super teams.

And to that, I would say, yes, it was.

Okay, Michael Cole, massive, massive Mets fan as well.

I think you guys are, what, the second best team in the league?

I mean, I don't know what the standings say.

You don't know.

I would say the best.

Tigers are the first.

Yeah, so I think they're second best then.

Other league.

The Tigers?

They're good.

That's your third best team in the NL.

Okay, third best team in the NL.

Cole follows every pitch, every at bat.

Love it.

Unbelievable.

This guy stinks every two seconds, just outbursts from him falling.

During the broadcast, he's got like the mini?

Yeah.

During the broadcast, if it's a big game, he is certainly checking down and being dramatic about it, too.

Like head into...

That's awesome.

Yeah, Yeah, just in the middle of like, you got to understand the psyche.

Like we've been through me and Cole and the rest of us tortured Met fans.

We've been through a lot and now it's getting good.

And so like

this is the time to get emotional and really feel it.

Now, in September, we'll probably be feeling it some more.

It's those playoff games are a lot, very stressful,

but I look forward to it.

Well, I appreciate the fact that you just say you're a Mets fan because you get free seats for you and the family from the Mets.

So you have to kind of do the gimmick.

I appreciate that.

If they want to give me seats, I will for sure take them.

How about an opening pitch?

How about an opening pitch?

You do an open pitch?

I did that already.

How did it go?

Crushed it.

It was during COVID.

It was actually ridiculous.

It was during COVID.

Fauci.

And I had to wear a mask.

And my wife.

I did.

It's on the internet.

My wife had to be my catcher because at the time, the rules were no, like there could be no cross-contamination.

So she's got some game, but she was so nervous that I would like bounce one on at her shins, and then she would be, look at that.

Yep.

Well, go back.

Go back.

Go back.

I was so nervous.

Oh, my God.

Oh, my God.

You couldn't get right on the rubber.

So you can get in front.

Who said?

Who said?

Yeah, I'm getting on the grass.

Oh, yeah.

Look at the wraps.

Big hug, success story.

That's a pretty good throw, right?

I'm not expecting that.

So nervous.

Guys, got a little good arm, isn't he?

He does have a pretty good nervous.

He's got a pretty good little arm.

Oh, wow.

Tiny, he's got a pretty good one.

I brought my catcher's mitt because, you know.

Ridiculous.

If you had to do it again, would you have worn the mask?

Or would you have gone up to the rubber?

What are they going to do?

They're not going to attack with you.

No.

What if they would have got mad at you?

They would have been like, ha ha, chuck the mask off.

I do not.

Oh, yeah.

I do not need that.

No, the problem with going up to the rubber is it naturally makes the ball sink.

Like just a little.

So instead of here, it's like at the shins.

And the last thing I need to do is have a pitch that is not catchable for my wife.

That would have been very, very bad for me.

I think they need to get you back out there in front of the whole crew.

Without a doubt.

Yeah, and you need to get up on that rubber.

You need to show those pearly whites.

And you need to throw gas.

You need to try to make it register.

Hart was like, I don't get nervous about anything.

And I was like, out of breath.

I'm like, this is how people feel.

Just drink your way through life.

You're not going to get nervous.

I had a couple beers before.

Yeah, of course, of course.

All right, let's talk a little bit about the NFL, shall we?

The Carolina Panthers released some draft footage that was spectacular and i think there's a there's a lot of pieces for us to chat about but if you haven't seen this has come from the carolina panthers from draft night most specifically pick number eight Some trade discussions going on at the time, but I was kind of hoping that the trade would fall through because I really wanted to take T-Mac.

O-liner tight end at seven, so our guy's going to be able to see.

Let's just hold off and see if the ramps fall.

I'm wired, and you guys can see it on the blueprint video.

Like, I want to trade up, I want to trade back.

Like, I wanted, like, I just want action.

When Mason got picked, I knew we were going to have an opportunity to trade our pick.

We had action.

It's kind of big for us.

No pressure, though.

I'm fine.

So, the Rams wanted to come up, and when you're coming up from that far, or you're moving that far back,

the compensation becomes a lot trickier.

Do you know what you want to do?

No cautions.

Oh, hang on.

What's up, man?

What do you got?

Before we went on the clock, before the draft even started on Thursday, like, we had it figured out, like, okay, it's going to take this for us to move back to 26.

So it's, hang on, it's

8.

We're on the clock, and the Rams are asking, hey, do you guys want to do this trade?

All right, let me, let me, let me click here.

All right, then.

What did they say on this thing?

We had a little bit of trade stuff going on that we were kind of working through.

You know, they would have had to give us the moon for us to trade out of that spot.

It's still not the same deal we talked about.

So for me, me it was no different than free agency or even doing an extension.

Like I'm just following a script and a plan.

How does that compare with this one?

Yeah.

Would you do this right now?

Yeah.

The one we offer.

Yeah.

Would you do this?

Yeah.

Okay.

Either we'll do it or yeah.

We're just going to call it.

Okay.

We will do the thing that Dan had proposed.

Okay, cool.

Like I can feel my heart pounding.

Eric leaned over to me and he was like, this is like a multi-million dollar decision for us I'm like, okay, great.

Thank you

There's two minutes left.

You know, I remember looking up at the clock when he didn't get picked at seven and he was there like it was like boom

We already knew what we were gonna do.

There's this question of was it gonna happen

We like T-Mac.

What I saw out of that video is a lot of things.

Brandt Tillis, I believe is his name, the executive VP of Football Ops, has a lot to say and is very chatty.

Morgan, the general manager there, is actually consulting with him throughout the entirety of it.

I think what they were waiting on was a full haul.

Like, hey, if they're going to offer us something that we can't refuse, we'll do this.

But instead, let's get T-Mac.

You saw Canalis, the head coach, offensive guru on the far side of the table, like, yes, let's go get T-Mac.

What I noticed, though, was there's one point they looked at Tepper to get an answer.

Tepper didn't say shit.

All anybody has said about Tepper is that he's hands-on, hands-on, hands-on, too handsy, too handsy, he's too involved, too involved.

He's not letting the football people do their thing.

We just watched in the biggest moment for their franchise, first-round pick, top 10 pick.

He just sat there and let everybody do their jobs.

I think if you're a Panthers fan, you love everything you saw there.

Do you agree, Rap?

And what were they looking to trade for there?

Okay, first of all, I do agree.

I noticed that too.

Like, Tepper was right there.

You could tell, obviously, like...

in tune with it, but let them do their thing.

Dan Morgan and Brand Tillis have a really good relationship, and you could really see them kind of feeding off each other like tillis with the numbers knowing kind of the value on the phone with the trades morgan being like all right if we're gonna do this deal and you know i really felt like they wanted to pick there was all this stuff beforehand about like panthers are open to trading open and trading obviously they were but like T-Mac was a guy who you could tell like they wanted to pick.

They would have had to be blown away.

They didn't get their deal.

Very quickly, T-Mac.

I thought that was a cool moment.

The Rams were the other team.

They were on the phone with them.

And there have been, you know, some rumors about the Rams potentially coming up.

Obviously, those were real.

I believe T-Mac would have been either the choice or very much in consideration, you know, which is so interesting because I think the pre-draft process, at least like the rumor mill, wasn't really kind to

the music.

Right?

I mean, but that's how, think about how highly the Rams had to consider him to be willing to trade all the way up.

Like, that means they think he is a true number one elite guy.

And for the Panthers to turn down what they no doubt had to turn down from the Rams, you know that they think that too.

And I think to me, that kind of puts it in a little bit of a different light as far as like how highly thought of a prospect he was.

I love that clip.

Yeah, I do too.

I appreciate all the teams giving us access.

You know, this is like why Hard Knocks kind of lost its luster because all the teams, social and digital content teams, are giving us access to shit that we've never seen before.

Watching the four power players of the Carolina Panthers make the decision in real time on what they're doing, obviously watching it back, but you get it.

That was beautiful.

And if you're Tepper, hey.

That was awesome to watch.

Right track.

Like, that's a lot of trust.

That's like a lot of trust.

And I think that's where, like, you know, people talk about owners meddling, which I hate that term because they are the owners.

Like, they should do whatever they want, really.

Agreed.

That's what I was about to say.

If I'm Tepper sitting there and we're doing that whole song and dance, and I'm like, Canalis, how do you feel?

He's like, I love T-Mac.

Morgan, you could tell, wanted T-Mac.

He's the general manager of the team.

And then we're waiting for Brant Tillis, okay?

Who

important.

I agree.

Very, very important.

But watching them all just kind of let them do their thing and then like process it and get to the end.

It's like, that seems like a very sound operation.

That feels like what the Carolina Panthers were considered two years ago, year and a half ago.

There you go.

Complete opposite from just that clip.

And feels like it's going to work out.

Good for them.

Go ahead, AJ.

Yeah, Ian, Frank Ragnow announced his retirement after seven seasons from the Detroit Lions.

Did you know this was coming?

Did the Lions know it was coming?

I assume they had an idea.

And like, how do you, you know, was it one injury that put him over the top that he was unable to come back for?

We listed all the different things this guy has played through.

Yeah, I mean, first of all, well, let me get to your question first.

The Lions knew it was coming.

He's been absent from OTAs.

I think there there was some like, does he want a new contract?

Like the Lions knew he was weighing.

Should he play?

My understanding yesterday was he was truly broken up about it.

Like this is a warrior.

Like I remember two years ago, or maybe last year, I think it was two years ago, I got word that he had

suffered a serious injury.

I believe it was a rotator cuff, something that obviously is a guy's out for the season.

So, you know, I kind of get ready, I make some calls, and I talk to somebody close to him, and I'm, you know, talking to Lions sources and they're like hey hang on like don't report that i'm like okay but like obviously you know it's serious and they're like it's frank rag now like he wants to come back and play and like for any other player not any other player but a lot of other players i'd be like okay and like he came back and played in four weeks and i mean that's what he was like i mean this guy was like the heartbeat of one of the nfl's best offensive lines um so they knew uh i think he knew he's been through so much he's played through so much it seems like his body was just like, it's time.

But this was, as people might say, a dog.

Yeah, absolutely.

Congrats, Frank.

Hell of a career.

When people think of your name, they think of a guy who's tough and played the game right.

And you're obviously there for the transition from the old Lions to the brand new Lions.

So it just kind of epitomizes everything the city's about, I think, Foxy.

Yeah, 100%.

The epitome of a Detroit football player.

Tough, gritty, always showed up, played for his teammates.

The fans loved him.

Everything you wanted in a football player, Frank Ragnow, was that we appreciate him so much.

Definitely going to miss him this year.

That's going to be tough.

Yeah, and also old Lions would have asked him for 10 million bucks back.

Yes.

Sure.

Brand new Lions say, hey, we'll celebrate you probably.

If I had to guess, if I She DeFord Hamp is doing things a little bit.

Put him in the ring of honor.

Immediately.

He deserves it.

Have him.

Kid Rock, Eminem.

Yep.

Oh.

Big Sean.

Posner.

Jay Robinson, Posner.

Put him up.

He didn't go through those shitty days to retire unless it was something super serious.

So I'm bummed for him, but very happy for his career, and I hope he's doing good in retirement.

I think he's even going to say like Pose or bury me in Detroit, didn't he?

Oh, yeah, 100%.

He'll say that.

There you go.

And he loves fishing, so he's going to be listening to a lot of doot-doot.

He'll be just fine.

I mean, his whole Instagram is like hunting and fishing.

I mean, I went to check because I had heard that he was going to post a statement.

You want to try to be respectful and hope guys kind of do it the right way.

No, no, I'm serious.

So, like, you know, you wait till he hits 10.

Yeah, I wait until I hung that.

Ah, finally.

Jesus, I've been sitting on this for two days, Frank.

Or two weeks or four weeks or whatever.

It doesn't matter.

Oh, you're so kind, Rap.

Isn't he so kind?

Dowdy.

Hey, now, I thought so, too.

To your point, though, of what you just said about how good of a human you are,

Rap definitely knew about my retirement.

Rap was...

Rap was a part of my retirement press conference that was pre-recorded.

You know, and then four hours later, Rap didn't think I was worth it.

it so he just said yeah sure nobody will say anything about this and then he just moved along and i i respect that out of you i wonder i wonder how many i wonder how many uh clicks how many retweets on it got have i have you ever looked on my because i had the initial tweet that you retired when it finally aired yeah i'd say probably 15 to 20 of them who knows i mean that was a long time ago that was a long time i didn't even have a picture i'll have to look there wasn't shit going on that super bowl week though i do remember that my retirement became like a uh a thing it happening on Comedy Central is also quite a moment.

Yeah.

You know, hey, a guy retires from football on Comedy Central with Barstool up there.

I think a lot of people thought it was a joke.

You know, like, why would this idiot pawn or retire?

I was like, you know what?

I think it's time.

And boy, there was a couple times I thought it was a stupid decision.

I will say, you know, as we're this entire thing.

Oh, yeah.

There's been numerous moments that popped up early there that I was like, what am I doing?

Why am I doing this?

This is so much work.

Everything is so much work.

But then obviously in the end, can't be the guy that retired early, made a big stink out of it, and then failed.

You know,

so that can't happen.

So, had to get a good group of people around me, and we had to continue to put the nose to the grindstone.

Just like we know, Frank Ragnow will, and whatever he chooses to do.

Is he gonna be one of these Iron Man offensive lineman guys that goes down to like 185?

Yeah, I actually saw a comment on his Instagram.

One of the boys on the team said, Hey, I can't wait to see you nice and skinny in the offseason.

So, that'll be awesome.

Then, Rapshi, one more thing on that note.

Have you known about this long enough?

They definitely drafted the guard out of Georgia for this reason, knowing they had to replace him?

I don't know.

I've known about it for a couple weeks.

I don't know that they specifically knew about it that long, but that makes sense to me.

Oh, you knew, but the Lions didn't.

Sure.

No, no, no, no.

What I mean is I don't know that they knew.

Draft was like two months ago, or I don't know, whenever it was, one month ago, a month and a half ago, whatever it was.

I don't know that it was.

I couldn't even guess.

It seems like a million years ago.

On Thursday, it'll be five weeks, I believe.

All right.

So I don't know that they knew for five weeks, but like he played through so much, they had to know that it wasn't going to be forever.

So, like, I don't know if they specifically drafted him to replace him, but they knew that a replacement was necessary at some point.

Perfect.

Let's head down to Duval.

Yeah, Jacksonville, I want to ask you a couple questions about some players down there.

First of all, Travis Etienne, the running back, had a dynamic first couple years, but kind of fell off a little bit.

Is he available for trades or other teams?

And then a Travis Hunter update.

What have you been hearing about about him down in OTAs?

All right.

So ETN, you know, he was available and sort of subject to trade rumors last year, last regime.

It doesn't feel the same to me.

And I feel like this new regime is more like, like, let's get him in here.

Let's see if he can be the productive back that he has been.

And hopefully, again,

they have some good backs there.

They have some guys who have really flashed, but it feels to me like more so than like, let's see what we can get in the trade.

It's more like, let's see if we can make use of this really really good talent now you know you get to the trade deadline next year in October and it's not happening like maybe then but I don't get the sense they really are going into training camp wanting to trade him as far as Travis Hunter I mean it seems like it's been really good

you know it's just it seems like it's been really good he sort of alternated a little bit between offense and defense trying not to overload him trying not to get him to do too much but like a lot of juice a lot of energy, kind of infectious.

You know, you can sort of see this guy being, you know, I was going to say defensive face, but I don't even know if it's on defense, just one of the faces of the franchise very,

very quickly.

Just like a magnetic personality.

And as a player, I don't exactly get the sense that Jag's like, well, well, we overestimated.

Like, I think it's going to be really good.

Yeah, Stoner said this is a statement.

about the opportunity that we have here down in Jacksonville the day after drafting.

Travis Hunter, one of the greatest promos I've ever heard from a football general manager on why they did the move that they made.

But you're talking about if you can bring juice to that city, they're going to be through a lot.

They're going to hold new stadium.

They got a, I mean, there's a lot coming down the pipe in Jacksonville.

Feels like Liam Cohen, Stoner, Travis Hunter, and Trevor Lawrence, hopefully, are in it for the long haul.

Good luck to everybody down there in Jacksonville.

And ETN being available, hold the phone.

Yeah.

Hold the phone.

Is that what we're doing?

Maybe not.

Rapsy kind of made it sound like, hey, we'll see what we've got.

Yeah, Rap gave the classic.

Don't buy into this shit.

Yeah, I believe it.

Trying to drive interest.

I believe.

Yeah, he's trying to run up clicks.

This guy's just

clicks.

I do like my clicks.

He did that last week.

Hey, you asked about the clicks on the tweet that you put out about my retirement.

I think it had

5.1,000 retweets.

That was before.

What?

Yeah, it was before.

Feels pretty big.

Feels pretty big.

Wow.

Only two bookmarks.

I don't know if that bookmark was around back then.

It was not.

Who bookmarked it just to keep it?

Was that you?

No.

To be clear, I didn't know that you put this tweet out until you reminded me of it right here.

I thought...

Look at the time.

It's a lot of likes, too.

12.25 a.m.

Yeah, it was late night, brother.

We were having a good time down there in Houston.

I mean, I couldn't get into the restaurant.

I couldn't get into the restaurant to do the thing.

I didn't have the proper band.

I was outside in line to get in before the announcement was about to make.

Like 10 minutes before it couldn't get in.

Had to call somebody that come get me in.

I was like, thank you.

Jesus Christ.

And then I'm sitting on stage 10 minutes later.

And then a couple of minutes after that, I'm standing next to PFT as we're signing out.

And maybe that was the next day.

PFT goes,

hit me in the balls as hard as you can.

And I'm like,

what?

Bang!

I mean, it was a full on.

It was a great.

You did it?

Oh, yeah.

Absolutely.

Right as the show ended, cut to black, right?

Yeah, it was as soon as it did there.

I'm like, PFT, this dude is a genius.

Absolute.

I love this man.

That old bar store runs so much about so much.

And it started with an Ian Rapport tweet.

Wow.

That's what I'm learning.

Wow, what an honor.

History.

What an honor for all of this.

Okay, let's move to some other moves that are potentially happening right now.

Tone has a question for you about his beloved Steelers.

Yeah, rap, a couple things about the Steelers.

In a shocking, shocking turn of events, I saw a report today that

Steelers are not considering trading for John U.

Smith now.

That was a shocking turn of events there to see that.

Never could have called that one.

And then there was a report also that Gabe Davis is visiting the Steelers.

That one actually does make some sense.

What's the situation there?

Yeah, so the Steelers have been over the last couple weeks.

You know, it's hard to find players now, like, honestly.

A lot of the really good ones are gone.

The ones who aren't are older guys who are kind of taking their time and not in a hurry or just out there for a reason.

Gabe Davis is a little different, was cut late.

So like a good player who is available

and really cheap, like unbelievably cheap because he's due so much guaranteed money in Jacksonville that it's complicated, but basically like no team could give him enough money to make it make sense.

So he's going to play for the minimum.

Russ Wilson's.

Yes, exactly.

Wherever he goes, he's going to play for the minimum.

That's an amazing deal.

The Steelers have been looking for not a tight end per se, but another target like Jonathan Smith, like I would imagine Kyle Pitts, Gabe Davis makes sense.

Like they've been looking for someone else.

And he has really, really taken his time.

But

this would make a ton of sense.

And like, the feel I get from the Steelers is like

kind of loading up, you know, like doing like all the resources, all the spots, everything you can.

Obviously, there could be a quarterback there at some point, hopefully soon,

maybe before the end of the summer.

But that's what it feels like, kind of loading up to make one more run at it.

On that note, Ty has a question for you.

Yeah, rap sheet.

Any update on the Aaron Rodgers situation?

I mean, everyone just assumes he's going to...

What are the Steelers saying to you?

Yeah, because as each day passes, it kind of seems like there's a chance he's not going to go there.

And then if that were to happen, would they look at Kirk Cousins?

Or

where are we at right now with Rodgers and the Steelers?

We're sort of, unfortunately, where we were, which is them giving him, he's dealing with his personal stuff, them giving him his time, them hoping and believing that he is going to join them and be their quarterback, but not 100% knowing.

And I think it's, you know, it's crazy, but like there's been nothing to kind of push that.

Now, this time next week, or yeah, this time next week when the Steelers are mandatory minicamp,

maybe it changes.

That might be interesting.

And that would be a time when it would make sense for him to go in, sign if he's going to sign, get his playbook, go home for the summer,

everything's good.

Yeah.

I mean, and

look, so that's my thought.

That makes the most sense, but it is Aaron Rodgers, so I would literally rule nothing out.

Okay, well, whenever you find something out, let us know, okay?

That'd be nice if we got a little piece of information from your side, because we're not hearing anything from AJ's side either.

So we don't get a chance to really...

Hold on.

He's here.

We're just not.

He's not sharing with the class.

It's circle time and AJ's not sharing.

Agreed.

That's kind of what he does in this situation.

But I would assume that AJ would say, oh, no, anybody really knows what's going on with that whole deal.

Yeah.

Ian, when you said he could sign by next week because of that mandatory minicamp, is that just your personal opinion, or are you hearing something from Steelers Brass that maybe

follow-up question?

I'm not hearing anything from the Steelers Brown.

So this is your personal hope.

AJ just said, is this you just making up another dental rap?

What's it going to be?

Let's just be clear.

This is my, well, I've been playing a lot of golf anyway, but this is my personal hope.

So just so we're clear, like, I would love, I'll tell you the best case scenario for me.

First of all, I break it.

That would be really good.

Second of all, I am in my studio ready to go on TV and and talk about it because that would be really good.

If I'm like somewhere not available or like phone service is bad, like that, yeah, I mean, that's, you know, I'll be paying very close attention, whatever happens, because you got to make sure you're ready for TV because that's a pretty big, pretty big thing.

Yeah, now that you're, now that you said that, too, this thing,

he's going to follow along with your life.

Just pre-tape it.

Oh,

he's at the Harry Potter Awards Museum or something.

Where were you at the Pez Dispenser Factory or something?

The Pez Museum is great.

They did a great job.

I actually got to reload.

We left with buckets of Pez, but we've since

eaten all the Pez, so we need more Pez.

Really?

Who's doing that?

Don't you send your kids out of the house for six months or whatever?

So that's you and Lee.

They eat beforehand.

They crushed candy.

All they do is eat candy.

It's terrible.

Okay.

Jesus.

Send them to the woods, eat candy.

Same.

Kids are going to be chilling.

There are goddamn rules in that house.

Yeah, rap before.

Come on.

No, there are rules.

No, I'll give you the rules.

They saw you not go up the bump.

And they said, I'm all listening to this guy.

No chance.

That's what they said.

This guy's throwing from the grass in front of the mound.

That's what they said.

I saw Max and Jude said, How can I take you serious, Dad?

You threw for the grass with the mask on.

That's what they said.

They were so.

No, I don't think they cared, actually.

I mean,

they were just like, all right, good job.

That was it.

Whatever the end of it.

We love you, Rap.

There's some more contract conversations happening.

Yeah, Rapshoe, what's going on with all the rookies?

I believe basically everyone is signed, with a few guys still not signed yet, but the big one being Shamar Stewart seeming to have no end in sight with the Bengals.

Is that still the case?

And is Trey Hendrickson looking at this like, I mean,

you're not going to pay me.

Why don't we just cut this guy and give me all the money?

First of all, there are, I think all the,

I think all the top 10, most of the top 10 guys have signed except for Patriots and Jag.

Travis Hunter is going to be...

That'll be interesting.

That might take take a bit.

We'll see.

It's just, there's some, it's complicated.

Yeah, I mean, like, I, there's, I would be surprised if there's a holdout.

There's almost never holdouts, um, but that just might take a minute.

Um, as far as the Shamarsh do it, yeah, I mean, it's my understanding, it's a language issue.

Um, and the fact that he's not practicing is kind of the thing that gets me.

Um, and it sounds like there's a language issue as far as what he might sign in the waiver.

Because, like, not the contract, but just the waiver to make sure he's he's covered if something happens while he's practicing without a contract it's weird i have to say almost never have you seen this um it's just you know it's an

it's annoying because like it should be all buttoned up but instead here we are talking about it in june he's still not practicing and i don't know if that's beneficial for anybody involved yeah but you know there's some business angle that is smarter than everybody else in the history of the nfl you know sure somebody's got it figured out

somebody's got the game figured out and with cincinnati bangles you know the business conversation, whenever you try to take angles, they don't love that.

No, not at all.

What's going on with Trey?

Is that even still a thing over there?

What's going on?

What about TJ Quiet?

Wow.

Is that even a conversation going on?

Yeah, that is a conversation going on.

I know that the...

Mark Caboli reported some things of the Pat McCaffrey Show and WWE contributor.

Mark Caboli.

He said that Steelers made an offer to TJ Watt.

They're currently there in the middle of negotiations, basically.

That's true.

Yeah.

What I was saying on Wrap.

I think that they

would like to get it done.

It doesn't sound like they're particularly close or imminent.

And like the Steelers, because of the way they do things, a lot of teams have deadlines at like the start of training camp as sort of like impetus for a deal.

Because the Steelers cut off negotiations right when the season starts.

Like deals.

do not happen during the season for the Steelers.

Sometimes it can mean like right up against the start of the season is when deals get done.

We've seen a couple like Saturday before the season deals for the Steelers.

I don't know that this is going there, but I just know it doesn't feel like there is anything like imminent or urgent.

I just know he's really good.

He deserves more money.

That market has gone crazy, and he should get his share of it.

It's just sort of unclear right now how much of that share of it he's going to get.

And obviously, Micah still out there as well.

I know Brian Schottenheim was saying today expects Micah to show up for mandatory minicamp.

I would expect that too.

Players don't give up guaranteed money anymore.

But that's, you know, those are two outstanding contract issues.

All right.

Well, we'll follow along on At Rap Sheet on X, and I believe you're also on Instagram.

And we found

the angle of your throat.

It was cute.

You and your wife were just having a catch, basically.

Look at that.

I mean, that's a strike.

That is a strike, basically.

Yeah, lefty swings at that, maybe.

You know?

Yeah.

No, we're not doing that.

That's not a strike.

Yeah, lefty switch at that, I think, because it was a sinker.

You see it?

Go to it?

Oh, no.

Not even on the bound.

Yeah, same thing.

Can you go back to that pitch there?

That thing was quite good.

That thing went from 12 to 6.

Can you go back to the beginning?

Can we get the circle change?

Look how big my jersey is.

I've since upgraded with a better jersey.

You've lost it.

Watch this thing.

Go.

Look at that.

Break off.

Whoof, right there.

I think at the end.

Was it knuckleball?

It was more of a change piece, kind of outside corner for let a lefty swing over it.

Change piece.

First base mitt mitt on.

You're the best.

No, catcher.

Catchers me.

Catchers.

That's worse.

Pop time.

Pop time.

Pop time.

Pop time.

You're the best.

Ladies and gentlemen, Ian rap reports.

He's the greatest.

I just got a text from somebody that said, how do you guys do this without football?

This is every day?

Yes, it is.

Yes, it is.

Let me tell you how we do it.

Help it a prayer.

When rap was speaking about the Rodgers thing, I almost had to take my ears out.

Me too, yeah.

I was about that one talking about it.

Holy shit.

Same answer.

There was no new answer in there.

For three months.

And AJ, AJ trying to just figure out

what are the Steelers leaking out so I know what I'm allowed to kind of talk about in this entire thing.

It's interesting.

It's fascinating.

You know,

I did see Mr.

Rooney.

I did see Omar Khan yesterday.

Did not feel like it was the right time to get, you know, all the answers.

Sure.

Would have been cool if they would have gave them to me, though.

Wouldn't it have been cool?

It would have been very.

Was it cool to see all your old teammates you play with?

It was great to see Edge gave a speech.

Great speech.

Yes.

Edge gave a great speech.

Great.

He's followed a very serious speech.

So like Edge's placement of speeches, whenever we were looking through the itinerary in this, I don't know what this is called.

The

program, I guess?

Yeah,

the pamphlet program.

The program, whatever it is.

As we were looking through it, saw Edge was giving a speech, didn't know who the two people ahead of him were, and one person got sick, I think, like the morning of or day before, so they subbed somebody in.

so did not know who was speaking.

Very good, very serious speech right before Edge.

And then Edge went up there and just brought the house down.

Yeah, absolute home run.

It was great to see him.

T.Y., great to see T.Y.

Chuck Bruce were there.

You said someone else gave a speech too, right?

That was like, you know, Jim would want this to be a much more

Pete Ward.

Yeah, great.

Pete Ward gave a speech because there was a very serious speech right before Pete.

And then Pete went up there and was like, Jim would want this to be a celebration.

So I'm going to try to do that.

And told some stories about how, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

When COVID happened and,

you know, central Indiana here, all the restaurants were like about to shut down.

So he sent Pete Ward, he said, I want to give $1,000 to every restaurant in central Indiana.

And Pete goes, excuse me.

Every review, we need to figure out a plan to get $1,000 in cash to all these restaurants so they can at least make it another month.

And then I guess Jim said, what is there, like 150, 200 restaurants or whatever?

I guess there was 550 or something like that.

Like thousands.

Yeah, thousands.

I'm sorry, like thousands of restaurants.

And he was like, I don't even know how are we going to get the money there, but we'll figure it out.

We'll do something.

And then I guess he backed off it a little bit.

Then he found an X contest to give away like 200, 300 restaurants, a bunch of money to pay for their bills.

Then when the Maui

Maui fires happened, he was like, we need to figure out how to get envelopes of money to these people, all of them.

And then whatever Pete went back to him with an amount of people that are potentially,

I don't know how we're going to get it to all this.

Logistics.

Yeah, the logistics.

Like everything Jim heard about, literally, that was the big thing yesterday.

Like everything Jim heard about was like, I got to help.

Like that is literally.

Takate.

I mean, Takate is your prime example.

He's going to fly.

He's going to build a or get a plane to fly a whale across the country.

$20 million he was about to spend to flip a bomber plane into an aquarium to have a killer whale flown from Miami to Seattle.

That's the longest possible American flight that you could have.

The longest possible one to get Takate back to her family up there in the free waters of Washington.

You know, this is a Buddhist whale, man.

Takate lays low.

I heard about her.

She's stuck in this thing.

Should she be stuck in this thing?

Absolutely not.

We need to figure out a way.

Probably to Pete Ward, need to get this whale to Miami to Washington.

And then Pete goes, I think we could take one of these bomber planes and make it in the quirk.

Love it, brother.

Let's go ahead and do that.

I mean, it was just like one of those stories after another.

Like everybody there was just like, Jim heard about blah, blah, blah and decided to give everybody there 10,000 bucks and told them not to tell anybody because of all of the deferred.

Like the amount of people that he has helped, I don't think would ever, you can ever, nobody will ever know.

Like you'll never know.

And that was what yesterday was.

It was a celebration of music.

It was a celebration of giving back.

And it was also mourning alongside a family that is now in control of an NFL team.

And I think they're going to do an incredible job.

It was a beautiful day celebrating, Jim.

Beautiful.

It really was.

It was great to see everybody.

We'll continue digitally, YouTube, ESPN Plus, Disney Plus, and TikTok Live.

Tomorrow we'll be live from Carrie, North Carolina.

Goodbye.

It's going to be good to get down here.

It's going to be so.

Is it going to be as hot as it was last year?

I believe so.

That's what they're saying.

I think I saw it.

Yeah, last year was so, so hot.

Humid.

Humidity.

Not used to the humidity, yeah.

I'm bummed out.

I'm not going to be able to play.

You know, because I got lower body, upper body.

You got the infrared, though.

You might get out there.

You might start feeling good, though, once you get it.

I didn't buy a lot of boys.

I don't even think I have cleats.

You're not bringing boots?

I don't think I have cleats.

You got extra boots.

What about from last year?

You got you got boots from last year.

You borrowed some gums.

You can borrow gums.

So I think in bus, there is a pair of cleats.

Okay.

That's literally the only hope I have at this point.

Because I went through,

I have some My Cause, My Cleats

paints that are at the house.

For the brand.

I have.

Right.

That was Jake Bailey who did that.

Shout out to him.

I had

Wish for Our Heroes, I believe, is my brand.

It was a good paint job.

I mean, it was a good cause.

And then there were some other military ones.

So those are like at the house.

Those are the only cleats I have, which is crazy because when I was kicking, I had like maybe 50 pairs of cleats.

Playing soccer growing up, just the amount of cleats that just kind of gathered.

So literally like two days ago, I was like, all right, what if I do feel I can get out there and just do one pass?

Just like a quick bang in the bow.

How you doing?

I was like, all right, where are my cleats?

Don't not even, don't even have a pair.

I'm like, god damn, I am an old man.

We can run to a dicks down there.

So I

are your brand new cleat guy?

You can get red ones, I can tell you that.

I don't love the brand new cleats.

I'm not going to be wearing red boots.

Don't you worry about it.

There's only one red boots.

Yeah, exactly.

Gold boots, perhaps.

Yeah, but the brand new ones, my feet are so built up, like it wouldn't ruin it, but it would be so uncomfortable.

What about like Zat Knight?

Do you think he has an extra pair?

I'm sure some of the boys.

Somebody asked me, you wear a pair of 11?

I was like, I'm a 12.

They're like, how about an 11?

I'm like, well, I told you my size.

So you probably, yes.

11 is probably going to be a little small.

I could wear 11.

Gonna be real tight.

Okay, how about an 11?

It's like 12 would be much better, but yeah.

I can bring you some 12s.

I can bring you some 12 football cleats.

Can't wear football cleats because that spike in the front, brother.

We saw it off.

People did used to try to run it down.

That was way back, like youth.

I think it's the baseball has the front cleat.

Oh, yeah.

Metal, too.

Yeah, football has the front cleat.

Not let have the front cleat.

Okay.

That's like the biggest.

Turfs?

What's the reason?

I don't know.

I assume there's some sort of health or injury thing.

I know I just stepping on toes.

But also, I didn't love the front one, too, kind of caught, you know, especially with soccer.

Everything's about that.

Like, Mackenzie, she will definitely play soccer.

No matter if it's her best sport or not, she will play soccer just strictly because the feet, like the control of your feet, like, I think it helps out a lot in that whole thing.

And the cleats are a big part of that.

What was it?

Kangaroo leather they started putting on those cleats?

Yeah.

That was the big top drawer.

That's what they claim.

That was the big evolution.

You can tell by the feel if they're a kangaroo or not.

Yeah, sure.

I had to fake cleats last year.

I had to knock off cleats last year.

Yeah.

We fucking

kangaroo.

That's you can tell, dude.

That's what you want.

Don't be marked, dude.

Kangaroo used to be the one.

It had like a run.

And I'm like, what?

So.

Kill kangaroos to make soccer cleats?

Yeah, why is the kangaroo leather so much better than every other leather?

And who found that out first?

Who was like, all right.

All right, you're dead, mate.

Come here, you cunt.

Killing you and make you cleats out.

That's what they would say in Australia.

They would say it.

They would say that.

That's what they would say in Australia.

There's a compliment.

There's not a.

Make some out of like lion skin or something.

Or gator.

See, that would be not good.

You see, because the gator.

They look sweet, though.

Gator skin.

Gator skin boots.

Snake skin would be.

Yeah, so

snake skins were like the boots I got.

See, because I got these Joey flaks.

You should wear those.

Oh, he just wears those.

But.

Oh, yeah.

There it is.

There's the front.

We'll sell that.

Tim Matfield there.

his new, he's got a new shed.

So that's always good news.

Tim built a gazebo in 10 days.

Built a deck and a gazebo in about 10 to 14.

It's awesome.

14 days.

And then

he turned it into his shed because he's building other stuff out there.

Let me put my caulking out here.

He told me the boys play cards every day there.

He says you play cards all the time.

Yeah, well, it's getting hard to go in there whenever it's all Tim's shit, you know, just kind of laying out all around the goddamn gazebo.

He's just turning into another shed out there.

It's like, Tim, you built this beautiful gazebo let's not fill it up with there's a huge

right there he's like well i'm building up the fucking bricks over here with

i got the fire pit and we want to paint the don't we want to paint the bricks

and there's a little bit of a leak up here you know how to get the caulking and gun out here i was like is that done yeah i got it has it been leaking

do we need the caulking out here do we need the whole thing i could probably move it i'll move it i'll get what you're saying i'll get what you're saying it's like just piling up became a shed quick yeah it did it's a beautiful gazebo it's it's awesome i can't believe he built that in 10 days by himself.

Through bad weather, too.

Like windy, windy conditions.

Cold.

He's an absolute weapon.

He's an absolute weapon.

Yeah, right now he's doing a full bathroom.

He's renovating a full bathroom at the house.

CIY.

Full bathroom, yeah.

Actually, he was climbing in a crawl space behind the bathroom and he knocked the internet completely out of the house.

But obviously it wasn't his fault.

They put that wire there and it shouldn't have been there.

I mean, it should have been somewhere else.

It's in the crawl space.

It's like, obviously, that's where the fucking wires are.

He just crawls right over top of it.

Sally, my mom goes, we lost everything.

Oh, I can't believe they put it here.

Oh, fuck.

Fucking bathroom's going to be unbelievable.

Oh, yeah.

I think he's getting one of those JJ Watt toilets.

We were talking about this yesterday.

That, those skills you're talking about, that your dad can do, my dad can, like, a lot of people can do, that missed our generation.

Like, we have no idea what the hell we're doing.

Dude, we got YouTube, brother.

We don't need to know that shit.

It's not the same.

I didn't pay.

I paid attention.

Like, Tim forced me me to, like, I know shit pretty good.

Like I change tire.

I can do all the, you know, all the shit.

Power drill, right?

All that shit.

I can do it.

I'm not, like, proficient.

Like, if you get me, you know, you give me a hammer in nail, like, I'm going to fucking hit my thumb.

Okay.

I'm going to hit my thumb at least one time.

If you, if I, if, if you're asking me to do an entire project, thumb is going to get banged at least twice, if I had to guess.

Tim, though, just knows exactly the right piece, the right size.

oh it's a phillips able it's two eighths or something

whatever quarter whatever it is he just knows that shit because they're in it you're right our i don't think any generation after tim's generation they don't make them like that anymore they got scars too they got scars my dad you got a little piece of stuff you have to say yeah so they got scars from but they know they have a very wide-ranging set of skills it's unbelievable yeah it is a good thing to be able to do they don't like asking for help that'll you think we're bad just wait till this next generation with ai no i think they're coming back around.

Oh, I see.

I think AI is going to make everything so much easier.

You think they're getting lazy?

That they're going to do less and less.

That those common things like, you know, hammer and nail drill and all that stuff is going to become like obsolete damn.

I will say forever people should learn how to use a power drill.

Yes.

Okay, because you're going to at some point have to build something.

And even if it's just kids' toys these days, let alone IKEA or anything else, being comfortable with a power drill is a skill that everybody should have, I think, personally.

Saves your life.

It can save you an hour on every one of those projects.

At least.

Yeah.

At least an hour.

Because if you're doing this one or this.

This Allen Ren.

Yeah, this one up underneath, you are in deep shit.

That's a long afternoon, brother.

Yes.

That is a long afternoon.

Go to dollhouse yet?

Oh, yeah.

Cool.

Tim built one too for Mackenzie as a gift.

Those are projects.

Built a six-foot-tall

in my garage.

I showed up and there's just a fucking house in my garage.

I'm like, what?

I can stand in this thing.

My dad goes, it's a gift for McKenzie.

I'm like, how long did it take you to build this thing?

Two hours.

It was easy.

And then I see there's classic Tim McAfee and there's a couple screws that are like,

through like two corners.

They're like two corners, you know, holding things together.

I'm like, well, I'm going to saw that down.

Don't worry.

There's not going to be any splinters.

Don't worry about it.

I'm going to say in that.

Don't worry.

It's like, Tim, you're the best.

Fucking answer for everything.

No doubt.

Needed to happen, we'll figure it out.

That is Tim McAfee to a T, but there's going to be some Tim McAfee in there.

You know, there's going to be some...

Some character.

Yeah.

Some pizzazz.

There's going to be some.

You're going to know that Tim McAfee made it.

Like, for instance, this deck he was building out here, there was a time where that thing was, you know,

the thing was downhill a little bit.

It's like, Tim.

Like, yeah, you're building the deck, but that's not going to work.

I'm balancing it out.

I'm fucking lifting up the poster.

Don't worry about it.

had him he did and he did and he did and then we just cover that up yep and it's in there perfect nailed it need those people around need more of those people i think there's some young bucks that can still do it all i hope so that's what they're saying now like going to trade school is like better than going to college yes yeah cars you know like i know all these um

electric cars and computer cars

but knots and bolts at the end are gonna yeah you know there's gonna be that all the time let alone whenever you you go in and they replace the battery.

That's gonna happen, I think, someday.

They've been saying for that for like 10 years, where you pull in, pull battery, upload new battery, then you're off and running.

Like, there's gonna be a lot of lifts, the amount of

all the shit.

Always gonna have to be able to figure it out.

Hopefully, we're able to need a power drill, though.

Yeah, need a power drill.

Deebut, you got a power drill?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Connor doesn't have a power drill.

Oh, I have a power drill.

I mean, I took woodworking in high school.

That's half the battle.

What was that called?

Homecoming.

Shop classic.

Shop shop.

Shop.

Home ech was like

baking.

Cooking.

We sewed a bag.

Man, I don't think I sewed a bunch.

Sowed a bag.

You sewed.

We sewed a bag.

In shop, we made a birdhouse.

And then in Home Ech, we sewed like a tote bag.

It was like a tote bag.

It was kind of sweet.

Mom was camouflaged.

I had a big DX patch on it.

I took a bunch of gym clothes out.

Really?

I don't think I ever finished mine, to be honest hindsight because yeah people did used to use them right these bags were like a good thing yeah i couldn't do it i couldn't figure out the fucking

the wheel yeah yeah so we had to make one of those chairs outside the rondac chairs or whatever the leaners yeah like the the ones out you made that in shop class yep

all the saws and everything all of it yeah you sand it down did you spray it sand it spray it finished it put put that yeah nice lacquer on it yeah oh goddamn lacquer i'll tell you what don't get into a lacquer conversation with tim macfe that was actually his profession for two years.

Well, then why didn't he do it outside?

Because it rigs wood when it fucking rings.

Yeah, and also, who's spraying the damn weeds out there in the mulch?

What happened?

We got bamboozled.

Yeah.

Hey, we want some mulch.

Perfect.

We can put that down.

No problem.

Two days later, weeds just grown up through all of that.

No weed stopper in there.

Can we put that?

You got to put some preen.

You got to sprinkle some preen underneath that.

I thought that just came with the, you know.

Yeah, you would think.

If someone's doing it, common sense would tell you.

Well, not that company.

That was a different company.

That was a different guy.

We'll never work with that company again.

We got our OG company here that we need to work with.

They're mowing a lot.

They're mowing.

Almost like two fucking six days a week.

It's crazy.

I'm pretty worried about all of it.

Sure.

I show up here and they're here every day.

The guy was here today losing his mind when I pulled in.

I'm just saying.

I don't.

They're new basically.

He was on like a bunch of people.

There's a lot of guys in that parking lot out there.

There's a lot of guys.

He was fucking pissed.

Yeah, we got a lot of grass, a lot of weeds.

I think maybe they're just sending the weeds.

It probably takes two days to weed whack this place.

Yeah, but could you just kill the weeds?

Can't you send something out there?

You still got to weed whacks, the grass, yeah.

Yeah, but they're not it.

You see them.

They're not.

They're not.

They're not doing it.

They're on there.

We got to mow the same strips every day.

It looks good.

It does.

It does.

Feels like that might be an expenditure.

It's a little bit up.

The expense just a little bit too high.

Yeah.

Maybe it's not.

That's why we're just kind of happy for what's going on.

It feels like a little bit of a hustle.

How's your teeth?

My teeth?

Yeah.

Feel good.

How's your teeth?

I need to go to the dentist, bad.

Good news.

Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man who is a dentist here in Indianapolis, Indiana.

He's actually Nick Meraldo's dentist out here in Indianapolis, Indiana.

Wow.

He's from Western Pennsylvania, which is also the home of the U.S.

Open.

The U.S.

Open is at Oakmont in the East Hills of Pittsburgh.

This man just so happened to caddy at Oakmont whenever he was going to school to become a dentist out here in Indianapolis, Indiana.

Now, ladies and gentlemen, yesterday, he is officially qualified to compete in the U.S.

Open.

Dr.

Matt Vogt.

What's up, boys?

What's going on, Doc?

What's going on, Doc?

Thanks for joining us, brother.

Thank you for having me.

This is

truly surreal.

I don't even know what to say it's been the biggest blur the last 12 hours or whatever it's been if i look like i slept two hours last night it's because i did sleep about two hours hell yeah brother you're supposed to feel that way you just qualified for the us open while also being a full-time dentist okay and i know that maybe uh there might be a thought and you have not said this i'm just saying that this happens in the world that we're in where it's like i i would like my golf game to be talked about i'm not really worried about being a distraction for this entire thing becoming a full-time dentist the amount amount of work, okay, I understand that that dental school is, that's like med school.

Like you got to learn a lot more than just dentistry shit.

So for you to be able to get your golf game to a point where you're able to qualify for the U.S.

Open while also becoming a dentist, that is incredible.

Hey, you should be very proud.

That's not easy, brother.

That's not easy at all.

Let's talk about that.

You played out here at Butler in Indianapolis, Indiana.

I assume you went to the dentistry school downtown Indianapolis for IU to become a dentist.

You stick around out here.

How often do you get to play?

How often are you practicing dentistry?

And whenever you found out that you were going to the U.S.

Open, did you think to yourself, man, I should be a full-time golfer at this case and fuck Nick Moraldo's teeth?

Yeah, Nick, Nick, I know Nick waived his hippo rights by telling everybody I'm his dentist.

So yeah, we take great care of Nick.

You know, we're happy to do that for you guys too, you know.

But yeah, I mean, I'm a late bloomer.

So, I mean, I played briefly at Butler.

I quit to focus on school

and really didn't pick the game back up again until 2018.

Just kind of caught the bug.

And, you know, I'm very blessed.

I have a great team and a great practice where I work, obviously.

I'm blessed to work with another doctor so I can kind of try to play and practice where I can.

And, you know, in dental school, no, there was very little golf going on in dental school because it's a grind.

But, you know, you get off, you get out in the real world and fortunately you can find time here and there.

And it's just kind of grown year after year after year for the past, you know, seven years or so.

Late bloomer just opened.

Late bloomer is a beautiful thing, especially when you have knowledge from whenever you were a younger lad.

Go ahead, Tone, who's from Plumboro, which is obviously right next to Oakmont.

Yeah, Matt, I was also a caddy at Oakmont for a summer.

Unlike you, I didn't last six years.

I got fired after one summer for getting too drunk one night and not showing up in the morning.

And they said that doesn't happen here.

And that's why Oakmont's Oakmont.

And that's why Oakmont is Oakmont.

You pay a lot to golf there.

But how much does your time as a caddy there?

Will it help

for this upcoming open?

I assume a lot of the guys who are out on tour, they're going to play a ton of practice rounds there and get to know the course.

But being a caddy there, I feel like, remember, I think it was like number two, where like if it's a new guest there or something like that, you're like, oh, if you roll the ball up here instead of going at a straight line at the hole, it's much better.

How much is stuff like that going to help you for the open?

Yeah, it's going to be huge.

I think like this has already been such a circus.

Just like it's been awesome the last, you know, half a day since I qualified.

But just being able to go there and know that i like generally know what's going on on the golf course is going to be huge um but that being said i've never played it in u.s open conditions and the videos and and things that i've seen and what i've heard is that it's brutal so uh

yeah i i hope it helps knowing the layout but um yeah man it's us open conditions so i'm excited to just see like what the heck's going on out there try to get out there you know later this weekend and get things going it's a beautiful story too uh it's been chatted about and you got emotional when you were talking about it.

Obviously, Oakmont is the best course in Western Pennsylvania, which is where you come from.

And the U.S.

Open is on Father's Day weekend.

You just lost your dad a couple months ago.

Rest in peace, obviously, to Mr.

Vote, absolute dog.

How do you think you're going to be able to balance all that?

Legit, that's a lot.

It feels like as a Western Pennsylvanian, playing at Oakmont in the U.S.

Open, that's a huge.

That's a huge step, let alone all the other implications.

How do you think you are going to prepare for that mentally?

yeah it's i don't know like i blacked out yesterday honestly like i i don't remember a dang thing especially the second round um i think you just got got to try to stay present i mean honestly i believe black and gold boys so like yesterday i'm like we're just trying to talk about anything but oakmont and golf like who who's the next uh steelers quarterback who's going to coach the penguins like literally anything besides what's at stake.

So we'll try to do a little bit of that in between shots and then just try to lock in, you know?

Did you get the answer?

Did you get the answer?

Who's the next quarterback?

No.

I was hoping you guys would tell me today, but no, no, we don't know.

Ian Ratport doesn't know shit either.

He didn't say a single thing.

AJ, this guy knows.

Actually, AJ has a question for you and he knows the answer, actually.

Unfortunately, I don't, but Doc, have you given any thought of what it's going to feel like when you step up on that first T-box on Thursday, your first round?

We don't know who you're playing with yet, but do you know, like, how is that going to be?

How are you going to, I guess, hone in, I'm sure, so much adrenaline, maybe some nerves.

Like, how is that first shot going to go?

And then after that, I would imagine, boom, we're off.

Here we go.

Let's go win.

Yeah, maybe blast some.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean,

I don't know what it's going to feel like.

It's going to be one of the craziest moments of my life.

I know that.

And then I think the best thing you can do is just tee it up high and swing very, very hard

and just let it go.

And just let it go.

Because if you try to guide it, you know, it's bad things happen.

Just got it.

Just got to let it go and honestly just soak it up.

Like, it's gonna be, no matter how I play, I hope I play great, but I think you just, I just gotta stay present and enjoy it.

And I mean,

Oakmont, Pittsburgh, it just means so much to me, guys.

Like, it's just, it's a dream come true.

Honestly, it's just, I can't even believe it.

Being present is, I think, the most important part of anybody performing, let alone you for a lifetime moment here.

This is something you'll talk about with the family for the rest of your life.

Now, you said T and up high swing hard.

Darius has a question for you.

Yeah, I'm a fairly new golfer.

Just got to the game a couple of years ago.

I'm interested.

What's in the bag?

What type of clubs are you hitting?

What driver?

I see you got the titleist hat on.

What ball are you playing?

Let me get some details.

Yeah, what's your game like?

What's your game like?

Yeah, it's a mishmash of brands and stuff.

I mean, titleist is awesome.

They support me and

I use a lot of their gear and titleist ball for sure.

But yeah, the rest of the bag is kind of a mishmash.

As far as game goes,

I hit it a really long way.

That's kind of my superpower.

So just hit it a long way.

Good for you.

Usually hit it pretty straight these days and find it and hit it again.

I actually, despite being, you know, taller and bigger than most golfers,

I putt it really well.

So, you know, if I can hit it long and straight and make some putts, like, that's kind of how it went yesterday, honestly.

So that, that's, but hitting it a long way kind of sets everything up for me.

That's what I try to do.

Oh, yeah, fade.

You're a a fader?

Yeah, try to, well, yeah, the key to hitting.

The key is when you try to fade it, you got to fade it.

Boom.

And I'm still just a dentist during the day, so sometimes when I try to do that, I draw it.

That's when bad stuff happens.

Okay, so what are you doing, doc?

What are you doing, golf doctor?

So

I'm coming out of the pocket, right?

I want to come out of a slot right here, right?

That's what I'm looking to do.

I saw

the Cabo Shallow.

Yeah.

The Cabo Shallow swing on Instagram.

I want to go here.

I want to get my hands here.

Then to here, then I want I want I want the hips to act

the hips to activate and then I'm coming out of the slot right now of the pocket and then bang we're off and running.

That's the golf swing doc or how do I fix my you got it.

You got it and you're you're you're dialed.

You're dialed.

Well we'll get you dialed.

We'll we'll have to after this all you know goes down let's get out let's play we'll get you we'll get you really dialed and we'll we'll make some progress.

Where do you play at around here?

That's a good question.

I play at Highland, Highland Golf and Country Club.

It's awesome.

It's, you know, off Michigan Road near Butler, where we went to school.

People there are awesome.

The course is incredible.

The support's amazing.

They let me kind of do my thing as I prep and try to do this kind of stuff.

It's awesome.

So we'll get you out there.

How many swings have you had?

How many?

Because I'm working on my what, fourth, fifth swing here every morning.

Sure, sure, sure.

Yep.

Yeah, I don't know if that's normal.

Do you have a lot of different swings, or has this been how you've played your entire life?

Yeah, I mean, it's like light blue.

What happened when you late blue?

You just started making contact better?

What was it?

You know, you just work and you work and work and work.

And then like sometimes things just start to click.

You know, golf is so weird.

So you have to like, you have to suck sometimes for a while and fail a bunch until you don't suck and fail, right?

Like, it's just kind of how it goes.

So, yeah, I couldn't really tell you.

It's just like lots of hard work and honestly.

And so many great people around me to help, you know, getting the body right here at the Finnish Garage in Carmel.

Like, all that stuff just kind of plays in.

And then one Monday,

sometimes that's why golf is awesome sometimes.

Yeah, golf is awesome sometimes.

Other times it's terrible, like when I play and I have no fun because I can't hit the ball well.

And then I did work on it.

You remember?

Last year I worked on it.

I was up there.

I got worse.

I got worse at the sports.

I'll get worse before you get better.

Well, that's what he said.

You got to fail and fail and fail and fail and fail.

Another swing change.

That's what I'm saying.

I think I need to do the Kawashala.

I need to take that thing up

here doing it.

You've seen him?

You've seen him on Instagram, Doc?

uh

who are you talking about

you you've never seen him you would know you would know

i'm double

swing

he's a hockey swing baseball he got all the swings i mean the guy hits a draw per oh

yeah no i think you lost me i don't know my my ins i also have like a thousand instagram comments or whatever going on right now mike i don't know what the heck's going on so we'll jump in there

we will jump in there no you're the man doc you got to fix teeth and you got to win golf tournaments that's a lot of pressure, especially in between the years.

Ty, has a question for you.

Yeah, Doc, if it was up to you, like, if you had your pick of the litter, obviously, whoever you play with, it's going to be pretty sweet.

But who would be, like, who are you hoping that you're maybe going to get paired with?

Like, I was hoping maybe, and obviously he didn't make it because, you know,

his day in the sun's done.

But, like, seeing you play with Blocky and maybe you embarrassing him out there, like, that would have been sweet.

I don't think that is what, that is not how we all feel, Doc.

Don't you block me.

That's not how everyone feels.

I certainly feel that way.

That guy sucks.

No, he's a good guy.

Good story.

He got thrusted into the spotlight.

He had a whole one, two of them.

Yeah, without a doubt.

Is he playing at Oakmont next weekend?

No, he's not.

And you know who is?

The doc is.

And he said he's a late bloomer.

That guy's been doing it his whole life.

But anyway, Doc, that's neither here or there.

Here or there.

Who would you like to be paired with?

Like, if you could just pick anyone from the field?

That's a great question.

Honestly, I would love to, like, I I have modeled a ton of my game off of Bryson, what he does.

He broke the mold, right?

And kind of broke golf for a while with how far he hits it, how he putts it.

We both arm lock putt it, right, with straight arms.

I would love to do that.

I would love to see, you know, who can hit it farther.

He's probably got me right now, but it would be closer than a lot of people.

Probably.

Whoa, whoa.

So you hit bomb bombs.

Because DeShambeau murders golf balls.

That's like what he's known for, right?

Is he actually had to create new clubs because he's hitting the golf ball too hard and too far.

You're saying, obviously, we're not putting you in a spot to say this, but you hit the ball like, you're saying like, I murder golf balls.

That is your style of golf?

Correct.

Correct.

330 plus off the T or what are we talking here?

You curious.

Yeah, yeah.

So yesterday, final hole, a little downwind, firm.

I can't feel my hands.

I might puke.

I'm just like, let's swing hard.

And I think I popped it about 380, downwind, downhill.

So

that was a good one.

All right, let's go get this U.S.

open, dog.

Let's go get this open.

Congratulations and good luck.

And with your knowledge of the area, Tone has the last question.

Yeah, I do.

Our good friend, Frank Ferco, he passed away.

They sold his lot.

Pudgy Wudgie, the cat sign, was out front there.

They built a brand, brand, boot, beautiful, brand new sheets there.

You're going to be hitting up the sheets before the round to kind of calm the nerves.

Yeah, what's the MTO?

Yeah, absolutely.

That Sheets is is a mainstay you know many many a time you know hanging out at pit uh going out you know sleeping on my buddy's couches and then getting up to to go caddy in the morning we we frequently that that sheets is a great spot so yes absolutely i need to go i need to go taste the local fair like i used to absolutely see you woke up for the tea time because you were committed to life guy became a doctor and also a professional golfer tone saw that tea time coming that the guy paid 5 000 bucks for and said sorry about it bud fuck that guy we had clothes.

We had some booze and someone's going to get a double bag today and that catty was super pumped about it.

Yeah, certainly.

Yeah.

Double the tip.

Double the tip.

Yeah.

He wasn't mad about his double bag.

I guarantee you that.

Hey, we appreciate the hell out of you, Doc.

Good luck and safe travelers back here.

Thank you so much, guys.

This is like an unbelievable moment in my life.

I still feel like I'm going to wake up tomorrow and this is going to be all of a dream.

So thank you all.

I love the support.

I can't tell you how much I appreciate it.

Thank you.

Yeah, it's a wild scene.

I mean, you're from Western Pennsylvania area.

You live out here so close to us that you're actually one of our guys, Dennis.

And then you qualify for the U.S.

Oak at Oakmont.

It's like, it's a wonderful set of coincidences.

Speaking of, I do have an appointment next Wednesday.

I should probably call, reschedule that, huh?

Yeah, what's that all about?

What about his teeth?

Yeah.

Yeah, no one's see me here the next couple of weeks, guys.

Sorry about that.

I got some stuff to do here.

All right, sounds good.

Give yourself some laugh.

Sorry, Nick.

Yes, give yourself some laughing gas.

Nick will continue.

Just go in, brother.

You should see the asshole of stuff he eats in here.

Yeah.

You should see the stuff.

He eats like the sugar.

Oh, man.

We talked about this.

He eats the sugar candies that actually deteriorate your teeth.

I think that is kind of like your.

Yeah, I got a sweet tooth.

I told him.

Yeah, but I'll drink a whole thing of chocolate, milk, and milk right before bed.

It's calcium.

It's good for my teeth, right?

Yeah, guy needs business too, though.

Yeah, you're right.

This guy's going to have to.

Mountain Dew, Mountain Dew is always going to be around, and so we'll always be able to help some people, you know, fix their issues and smile a bit bit better.

So, Nick, come on, man.

You got to figure it out, brother.

You're a good man, Doc.

And I think you're very close to my house, which is good news.

Maybe I get in there and get you guys got a laughing gas in there?

We do.

If you need it, if you got some nerves, you know, let's get it.

Let's get it.

We'll get your teeth fixed up.

We'll get your game fixed up.

You're set with me, man.

We'll do it.

I like that.

Laughing gas before a round.

Yeah.

That's probably the right play.

That's not a bad idea.

You're the man, ladies and gentlemen, in the U.S.

Open next weekend at Oakmont, Dr.

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380.

Pounded the ball.

It's a big ball.

He needs to set up right next to Bryson on the range, like starting Monday, and just swing as hard as he can, just to try to get, like, just create some buzz.

I appreciate him saying I modeled a lot of my game after DeShambeau because DeShambeau is what taking like super analytical, statistical,

like view of one of one.

So vote,

vote, doctor.

Yeah.

Right.

Dennis, like, okay, if I could do, it makes sense what DeShambaugh says.

I've never heard anyone say they've modeled their game after DeShambeau.

That's actually really awesome.

I think you got to be super smart.

Yes.

I think, because there's so many numbers and shit for DiChambeau and all that stuff.

Two, because you've got to be able to fucking hit it a long way.

Yeah, you got to thump that thing.

He's drinking, what was it?

The nine protein shakes a day.

That was when he was trying to gain the weight.

Yeah, exactly.

That's when he was the bison.

That was unattainable.

Now that he's kind of come back to earth, it is one of the things.

And the putting, I mean, that seems to make sense.

Like, if you're just a pendulum, I've heard DeShambeau talk about it.

Like, if you lock your arms, there's less.

Is his grip up his left forearm?

Does he lock it to his forearm?

Yeah, because you can't go to your chest anymore, but you can pivot that thing on your...

I'm automine after Scoot, so nice.

Yeah, me too.

Yeah, you're slipping inside.

AJ actually does.

Yeah.

AJ and Scooter.

Yeah, I always kind of have.

AJ and Scooty kind of the same way, and somehow.

No, not really.

How's the game going this year?

I don't know.

We'll see.

You know, if I ever, if I'm out there and drill up and down, I can get a par and I can get get a 10 on the next holes.

Any birdies at this year?

I played about nine holes.

I may have one, I think.

Yeah.

May.

Yeah, bird first time out, of course.

I get bored.

You know, I need something on the line, or I get distracted and bored.

So Michael's saying, I get it, yeah.

Not money.

Yeah, I mean, I don't, yeah, I'm not a big, I don't, I'm not a big gambler.

I need to, like, you know, I need every shot to count.

You know that.

Yeah, you need to be out in American Century.

Yeah.

There you go.

Good luck out there this year.

That should be a lot of fun.

That should be a lot of fun for you guys.

I thought you might be coming.

I just don't think think so i you know me and the game have an interesting relationship me and gold

you've i mean right now you're broke you know you sworn you've sworn it off a hundred times but you've also almost come back a hundred times yeah

watching bubba behind the thunderdome kind of made me think to myself shouldn't do that sport ever again because exactly he just got there right out of the car did an interview you guys know my clubs yeah we got your clubs old buddy brings over clubs and he just takes like two hacks at it and then it's just like literally he's playing he's playing beer pong so cool he said it'd take him six months to get a hole in one and he stuck like 12 within like

eight inches like right away and it was raining outside so much fun like that would be so much fun to be able to do oh yeah it was raining yeah there's him that's like his third shot or something like it's just unbelievable it's unbelievable what they do so then it gives me no hope you know because it would be i mean hope was what hope of beating bubble watson in a professional

just knowing that i'll never be able to do that just knowing that it's never gonna happen

But look, look at the old Doc.

Like, that's why golf is cool.

Doc is, you know, cleaning people's teeth one day, and the next day he's playing in the U.S.

Open.

Like, you could do that.

You can qualify.

He played college golf at Butler.

Doc's very committed.

Doc, yeah.

Yeah, he's very committed.

If he started doing the Dechambeau shit, that's a lot of time.

And he's going to the golf course, and he's not having a lot of fun most of the times.

He's probably two hours on the range, two hours on the putting green.

Like, to be that good, you have to do that stuff, and it's boring.

Also, if you were hitting it 3.30 down the middle every fucking time you're using the driver, guess what?

You'd be playing a lot more golf.

So much fun.

That was a lot of fun.

So much fun.

We're doing a home run derby here.

Yeah, exactly.

Did you hear about the West Virginia baseball team, AJ?

What about it?

I saw their celebration.

It was a bad selling.

I mean,

you won.

You're excited.

I don't ever, anything post-game when you win, like, I give everybody a pass.

Yeah,

the boys were a little juiced up.

And, you know, they were trying to get the Gatorade Power A bath.

Yeah.

And they had to run that thing two miles, you know.

They had a big comeback.

I mean, the boys were

exhausted.

The boys were tired, and this is good.

Stop celebration right now.

Boom.

That would have been good.

They kept going, man.

Just kept going and kept going.

And people started falling.

Oh,

power aids going down.

But no one got hurt, though, right?

No one tore an ACL.

Yeah,

it's just a celebration.

It's a lot of space and opportunity out there.

What do you want from the people?

Yeah, no, no, no.

You got to be better.

They're playing LSU.

Good luck to LSU.

They're going to make Domeha omaha and then they're gonna break rocco's shot record when they get there tennessee i don't know who they're playing down there it's a good eh bama i think i don't think what happened to right state right state was the giant killer is that arkansa

oh it is arkansas the favorite so yeah you're right yeah i think that's arkansas okay that's arkansa

arkansas lsu auburn tennessee representing the sec

is that the

coastal carolina yeah yep i believe so yeah myrtle beach is in this thing

Love that.

That's good for baseball.

Florida State.

Coaches get in hot water.

Some coaches are getting fiery out there in college baseball.

Coastals coach.

Something happened with Florida.

Coastals coach came out and didn't love it.

Yeah, they get real church.

With their manager.

Yeah, there was somebody that was caught on camera saying something.

White Forest skipper.

Yeah, I got.

Did he say fucking forget?

Yeah, he said fucking forget upon.

I think, like, that's their motto, right?

Yeah.

You have to have the memory of a goldfish.

Exactly.

You can't be thinking about right now.

You got to fucking forget.

Fucking fool.

That's not what everyone thinks, but

if you look at the tape, you could certainly draw that conclusion.

What else?

He just let that fly.

Yes, he did.

Early together.

That was like the fourth inning, too.

He's fed up.

Not even like.

No.

No.

Nope.

Did he say forget?

Like, you forget something?

Like a bat at bat?

I think.

No, forget about it.

Tennessee guy was, you know, hot dogging around at the play.

I think he just called him fucking fool.

Fool?

Yeah.

What do you mean, hot dog?

Didn't look like that, but maybe.

Seemed like a couple celebrities.

Been a jag off.

Yeah.

Maybe.

Jagoff, that's a good word.

He didn't say that, I don't think.

No, he didn't.

He's from PA.

About an hour from Ohio.

Yeah, he's from, where was it?

Johnstown?

Pitt Johnstown.

Of course he is.

Of course he is.

What's that area?

What's Johnstown like?

It's like an hour from Pittsburgh.

On that note, tires is coming out.

June 5th.

Not far from Ohio.

Nice.

On that note.

Ohio?

Not too far.

3-4, probably.

Right?

Four, probably, if I had to guess.

Johnstown, Johnston

is

three.

I'm looking up.

It's all kind of the same over there.

The rust belt all kind of runs together.

Yeah.

It's an hour east of Pittsburgh.

So two hours from Ohio?

He said I need to fucking do this one right here.

That looks kind of difficult.

That seems like a lot.

It's a little east of Latrobe where the

training camp is.

Okay.

Hey, I love what La Tro Troller.

La Trobe, also the old home of Rolling Rock.

Love what Doc said?

The beer?

Yes, the beer, the green

green bottle.

They sold it to another company.

What did Scotty Scheffler say again?

Do your swing.

What is coming?

Yeah, okay.

Yeah, but Scotty's saying that as if I played.

You're an athlete, though.

You're an athlete, though.

You're thinking of like these old middle-aged dudes that aren't athletes.

That's what they need to do.

You need to be an athlete and trust yourself.

exactly

use your hands aj

well i think your game's rounding into form

read the book you gotta read the book

it's in the book fucking blade foxy knows the truth i heard you guys got a good full swing session yeah yeah it's fast it's working

shout out to the full swing simulator people they they've heard us relentlessly talk shit about our golf simulator up here and they've reached out and said hey we need we would like to fix this problem for you guys because we think it could be an additive to your life as opposed to a massive disappointment, which is what this last simulator was.

Yes, without a doubt.

This last simulator up here was a massive disappointment.

You go up there, first of all, you find the motivation to go hit some shots.

I'm gonna go hit some shots.

You go all the way up there, you turn the fucking computer on.

Things cook.

Okay, so now the projector is warming up as well.

Here we go.

Stretch out a little bit.

Yep.

Stretch out a little bit.

Have it hitting a little bit here.

Get the cow was shallow.

Call a Shallow.

You do the whole thing.

Then, obviously, it has to test for where the ball is.

So you do the fucking test.

Okay, you got it.

Now you get into the app.

You got to punch in all the shit.

Okay, all the shit.

Okay, boom.

You finally get to the driving range.

Here we go.

You put it down, and then you hit that thing.

And guess what?

It doesn't register a thing.

You're staring at it.

There you go, get another ball, and then it puts a green check mark.

It says, yep, we see it.

Nothing.

It's like, all right, well, I got to go out, reset this thing.

Now we need it to reboot.

Also, need the whole fucking laser system to reboot.

Okay, now we're 13 minutes into this thing, and we've hit two balls that didn't register.

But we've stretched, we've done a computer twice, and we've had the motivation come and go to hit balls.

That has been our simulator experience for the last two years.

Basically from jump.

Three years, maybe.

That has been the, it has been a massive discipline.

Spot on.

It's the worst thing ever.

You would just, literally just hitting it into a blank wall is what that, that became a...

You just hit a net.

You get a $10 net and do that.

Bingo, this became like a garage net up here and it was like who's it where's it going who the fuck knows did you hit it clean sure felt like it who knows though if that thing doesn't

after fucking 20 feet because you're only hitting it 10 feet so the full swing people called and they're like we would like to make this make this a weapon for you and they did i think it works that's what i heard right yeah me and me and tony played like four holes yesterday and it worked it did yep every shot registered thank you full swing oh yeah learned a lot they looked out for us that was very kind of them Somebody watched our show from them and said, we would like to make this happen for you.

And that's nice.

So we're all going to be scratch golfers, though?

I think so.

No, I still quit.

It better work in December.

That's when we need it.

December, January, February.

Thank you, full swing.

It needs to be working during those months, though.

Well, right now, I think it's warm and you know, it's getting into

fighting shape.

No more problems.

It's training camp for this fucking simulator.

All right, let's get on the road down to Carey, North Carolina.

Let's do this, TST.

Hell yeah.

Let's win this thing.

Or let's go to Myrtle.

Yes.

Here we go, boys.

Connor was trying to convince me during the break that we need to take that plane.

Carry Myrtle Beach.

I don't think it's a terrible thing.

Except we're heading in the same direction.

Shh, it's fucking terrible.

Myrtle Beach is fun.

You will have fun in Myrtle Beach.

Especially if there's a concert going on down there, Marty Smith's Boys.

Fuck Country Fest?

Fucking Carolina Country Fest.

Yeah.

They got some good cue down there.

Oh, yeah.

You ever had that cue down there, Carolina?

Europe.

Yep.

Yep.

Good cue.

The venue.

I wouldn't say it's the best.

What?

What?

I mean, I'll put Kansas City, Kansas City barbecue.

Yeah, but Marty Smith said, I know Kansas City's got good cue.

KCQ is the higher ranking.

Did you have the vinegar cue?

Cream to crop.

Who?

Who?

Gates.

In Kansas City?

Gates.

Is that one of the places that's like popular?

I think we got some Gates after our game.

That's what I'm saying.

Like, would I have had this?

Yes.

Okay.

I do remember Kansas City having great barbecue.

and I do remember going to Kansas City and everybody saying you have to have barbecue that's what kind of is the notion yeah that's like you go to Houston they got a lot of steak places yeah Houston's got great steak restaurants down there you go to Kansas City they say you got to have barbecue down here now Texas barbecue though is a real thing too right yes yes

what's the difference do we know what the difference is is it the seasoning the way it's cooked yeah

they all claim to the best

sauce because you got Carolina gold right sauce then you got like Nashville hot sauce yep then I see I assume assume there's some texas barbecue of some sort sweet though kansas city might have a little bit of that they do yeah sweet cue casey sweet skeet sale

it's all good for real true it's it's like pizza it's all good i agree you you if you're gonna slow cook meat

i'm gonna eat it

you know yeah i think that's just a good rule yep

That's what Q is, brother.

What are we talking about?

You don't like slow-cooked meat?

I like yes slow-cooked beef pause what it's not always

you like to get filled with you like to get filled

i like to eat good food you like to fill yourself up with some good beef beef

beef kansas city is a tomato base with molasses north carolina

has lexington uh vinegar and tomato eastern vinegar and pepper specialty meat is whole hog down there in north carolina south carolina western peppery tomato based central south carolina carolina gold mustard coastal peppery spice with vinegary specialty meat the whole hog the whole fucking pig is in trouble in the carolinas the whole pig is in trouble that's why d-butt doesn't like getting the what is mutton what's that buddy what is mutton in can in kentucky the specialty meat is mutton fucking lamb you cretin

geez louise dude they have vinegar based with mutton dip lamb dip pepper and vinegar uh missouri kansas City, shout out.

Tomato base with molasses.

Oh, that's that sweet barbecue.

Yeah, sweet cue.

Burnt ends are.

Yeah, to die for.

And then Texas has tomato base with beef drippings.

Ooh, beef dripping, chili pepper and spices, beef briskets, their thing.

So they're a brisket team.

They're the burnt end squad up there.

Tennessee, dry rub focus, paprika, cayenne.

Pepper, salt, and sugar.

Pork ribs.

Cayenne, pepper.

I think just reading the sauces here, lemon juice, horseradish, hot sauce, sauce, salt, pepper, and vinegar, Alabama.

Pork ass, shoulder, and ribs down there in Alabama.

I'll tell you what, I think I like the Alabama sauce the best.

Lemon juice, horseradish, hot sauce, salt, pepper, and vinegar.

That feels like the one that I would like the best.

Do you remember the burnt-ends from LSU?

Oh, yeah, those things were unbelievable.

Unbelievable.

They were.

Louisiana's not even on here.

Yeah, that's why it must be like the Bama ones.

That's what it sounded like.

Kind of like roll into it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We'll go try some of the cute down here in North Carolina.

Yeah.

Can't wait.

Hold on.

I'm hungry.

You know what I'm hungry for?

A TST title.

Hell yeah.

And I'll tell you what, these concave boys better be able to lock the fuck in.

Gumpy, have you been giving speeches?

Have you been sending motivational text messages?

I know you guys are on some weird app together that I refuse to join.

Have you been sending some messaging?

Huh?

What's the fucking thing?

Ah, that group no longer exists.

Okay, that's a different squad this year.

Miola had 18 holes yesterday.

He's got the boys ready.

Miola golfed yesterday?

Yeah, he got 18.

He better fucking cleared his mind.

He had the boys going.

Gumpy has mentioned Miola golfing no less than 80 times today.

I don't think Gumpy's real.

I think Gumpy was coached.

I don't know if Tiny Miola knows that Gumpy is a big, must have been nice to be able to golf 18 holes on a Monday guy.

You know, that is kind of what he is doing.

What happened?

We're there to win a turn.

This just happened.

Oh, no.

Breaking news.

Big breaking news, actually.

Breaking news?

See?

No.

Actual news.

Ladies and gentlemen, the New York Knicks

have relieved Tom Thibodeau of his duties as the head coach of the New York Knicks.

Thibodeau led the Knicks to their first Eastern Conference finals in 25 years, made playoffs in four of the five years, and led the Knicks to consecutive 50-plus win seasons for the first time since the 1990s.

That's via Shyam Shirania, senior NBA insider for ESPN, friend of the program.

Let's give him a call real quick because obviously Knicks fans

had been kind of calling for this as soon as they lose, but I think that was in the emotional aftermath of losing a series to the Pacers, understanding that this was a real opportunity to make it to the NBA Finals.

There was no Celtics.

The Cavs, who were the number one team in the East all year, obviously lose to the Pacers.

This felt like maybe the easiest path to get to a finals.

You're this close to an NBA finals and then you blow it.

So there was a lot of anger.

I think there was a lot of emotion, especially after this happens and the shirt goes on sale and the pacers kind of do their thing.

I didn't know if it was actually going to happen, though, because those are a lot of good things that he did for the New York Knicks.

Obviously, Malone is out there, formerly of the Denver Nuggets.

He's Bruce Brown in the back.

Bruce Brown, New York Knicks fan.

What was the temperature?

Is this what Knicks fans thought were going to happen, or what was kind of the expectation here?

I mean, you know, while the playoffs are going on, a lot of Knicks fans were trying to stay positive.

I was certainly on this for a bit because, you know, like when you're playing seven guys in a rotation and you're falling short in the playoffs and your playoff record is like as a coach is like 46 and 70,

you know, it's kind of time to say, hey, thank you, Tibbs, for building us up to this point.

But it's time to go a different direction.

Maybe that direction is Mike Ballone.

Maybe we go up to Stores Connecticut and knock on Dan Hurley's door and see what he's up to.

But I think this is probably a necessary move to kind of take that next step.

You know, playoffs, playoffs withstanding, you know.

Does Hurley have a connection to the Knicks?

I believe so.

I believe there is one too.

His family somewhere.

Maybe his brother.

Yeah, his dad, maybe.

Yeah, something.

There is a Knicks connection.

Obviously, it's the New York Knicks.

So it's in Madison Square Garden.

And we all saw what Knicks fans became and what the hype was around whenever the Knicks are good.

It's the whole city coming together basically around a team.

It was beautiful to watch take place.

Maybe that'll be enough to draw Dan Hurley out of Yukon.

You know, this is going to happen every single year.

It's going to happen every single year with Dan Dan Hurley.

Malone, obviously, sitting there waiting, but I think if I listened to Bruce Wright whenever he was angry watching this Eastern Conference finals, the thought was Carlisle's running a circle around this guy.

Yeah.

And in last year playoffs, Carlisle ran a circle around this guy.

Carlisle might be a great coach, and our team might be set up differently than what the Knicks are, maybe a little bit deeper.

But it has been kind of a masterclass on how best of seven series, Pacers are going to win that inevitably.

Yeah, when you play your starters all regular season and then in the Eastern Conference finals say, all right, guys, you you know what we're going to do?

We're playing 10 guys.

Then you have to learn how to do that for the very first time on the biggest stage possible.

If we'd been playing Wright and Shamett and Deuce McBride the minutes that they probably should have been getting all along, then you know how to teeter with it and adjust it

when the lights are the brightest.

So that was certainly a big knock.

And then his playoff resume could be better.

He says 46 and 70?

He's around there, yeah,

in the playoffs that's all the best teams though it's all the best teams no doubt sure the knicks will get it right okay so on that note sham sharani has tweeted the knicks are singularly focused on their pursuit of a championship and believe a new voice will serve as the focus for the organization's next step sources said after five seasons with the knicks tom thibodeau is officially out yeah i mean it surprising to me but uh hearing uh jeff teagues one of my favorite uh nba he's funny who got the podcast and he was talking about playing for tibbs and he was like man tibbs tibbs don't even coach they just damn man come on damn damn like you said that's all he says like you see with brunson brunson's a phenomenal player but like you know when you aren't necessarily running sets or running plays you're kind of the ball stopper and the knicks they never get it right though so i don't think they will going forward this is surprising to me coming straight off the eastern conference we see it happen in the nba though joining us now live he only has three minutes for he probably has to go on television ladies and gentlemen shams ran you

shams uh knicks fans obviously throughout the series with the pacers I heard gain a little bit of noise because Carlisle was seemingly out coaching.

The team was ready.

How long has this been in the works?

And what ultimately led to their decision to get rid of Tom Thibodeau?

So, Pat, as soon as the Knicks season ended, they started meetings internally.

And James Dolan, the Knicks owner, Leon Rose, their president, they believed the best path for this team to take the next step.

as an organization to win a championship is that they need a new voice.

And so Leon Rose and James Dolan came to the decision this morning that they were going to part ways with Tom Thibodeau.

He is fired as their head coach.

I mean, Pat, you think about what they've done as an organization, like to lose in the conference finals, that's not a bad feat.

You know, this is a team that's gone from really out of much contention at all.

And when Tom Thibodeau comes in, they become respectable again, four or five seasons in the playoffs.

They've had back-to-back 51 seasons for the first time since the 1990s.

I mean, I think everyone around the league is stunned.

I mean, my phone is blowing up.

A bunch of teams are reaching out right now.

Absolutely shocked.

But

they've been having meetings for the last 24 hours, and this is the decision they came with.

Okay, we know you have to run quickly.

Malone, obviously, is a coach that is available after getting fired from the Denver Nuggets.

He's won a championship before.

Does that become a name that the Knicks are going to look at?

Bruce Brown, who's a massive Knicks fan, just said, maybe Dan Hurley, out of you.

What are the names in the coaching pool for this particular this coaching cycle?

I'm not sure yet which direction they go, but you think about for Tom Thibodeau, the issues that they probably had with him.

You think about what Mikhail Bridges said early in the year, and I think a comment like that rings true.

Like a guy that

might trust his bench more, a guy that might be a little bit more lenient based on his principles and what he wants to enact.

I mean, clearly the way Tom Thibodeau coached, I mean, for better or for worse,

he was very,

very, I won't even say stuck in his way, but he had a way that he was going to operate.

That's what it was going to be.

He was not going to change.

And for better or for worse, now it leads to a lot of success.

All these guys have career years, but clearly the Knicks, I think the direction they're going to go in now is figuring out a guy that they know can build out the entire roster, the bench, can work with the front office, is a little bit more lenient based on what their strategies are.

And not so, you know, Tibbs

has success his way or the highway in this case i guess the knicks gave him the highway james louise show himself uh maybe timothy chalamay gets in there and

they're gonna need his money yeah they're gonna need need his brain yeah him and ben stiller maybe get spike lee in there uh get wasn't miles teller all of a sudden in the next fence all right have them all in there all right we appreciate you seams great work buddy appreciate you guys thank you

he's got to do tv right now probably knicks have no options they traded all their picks all their players are basically max guys they this was the only way they could do anything and now if they want to build out their roster they got to trade one of their big names so i mean they're so i can't believe they did this michael cole just texted me knicks are firing tibbs question mark what the

they finally they finally beat the celtics like the easter conference like imagine if the pacers fired carline i mean we're stuck on the first apron not the not the second like the celtics cat would be tough to move but it's like a toddling situation almost in pittsburgh uh but you get you get malone that's that's an upgrade.

Yeah, I mean,

Kat would be easy to move, but the reports are coming out that his teammates are pissed at him.

Yeah, but that could be just lies to try to diminish his trade value for somebody.

You know, there's so much shit that was before Tibbs was even.

Yeah, no, but they might have been trying to.

Yeah.

This is also just a byproduct of coaching in New York.

Like, if he was in a small market, like, he's not getting fired.

You know, he's probably getting an extension for going to the Eastern Conference finals, but it's like, hey, this is the Knicks.

And also, I mean, to your point, Carlisle here, he's been here seven years now, I think, six years, whatever it's been.

And it's like, last year they make it to the Eastern Conference Finals.

It's like, yes.

Yeah.

Then they back it up again, though, and it's like, yes.

But if they would have done bad, I think people would have still been like, ah, Pacers are a good team.

We made the Eastern Conference Finals last year, made it to the playoffs this year, lost to the number one seed calves or whatever.

It's a different conversation.

In New York, I mean, I threw myself right in the middle of it there for a little bit.

Yeah.

Put up street signs.

They really,

they really love that Knicks team.

You got to be good over there.

That's the most success they've had, though.

Yeah, sorry, you got to be great over there, I guess.

You got to be great over there.

You don't.

I mean, we were winning 30 games for like 20 years, and the place was still sold out.

Yeah, and then they finally...

So, what are you doing here?

It's like Jim Caldwell at the Detroit Lions.

I am surprised by this and Dolan kind of stepping back into basketball operations.

It sounds like, you know, meeting with Leon Rose.

And I would imagine that the owner was a part of this.

Player exit meeting.

Did they have a big part of it?

Do you think player exit meetings had a big sway if players gave their opinion?

Maybe, but Brunson was like a huge, huge Tibbs guy, as was Josh Hart, who, I mean, kind of who cares what Josh says, but no, that's a big voice for that team.

No, no, no, no, no doubt, but I Brunson kind of the first and foremost.

Yeah, and you said Brunson has been a big Tibbs guy.

I think Brunson would be a big whoever the head coach guy.

Yeah, he's a dog.

Brunson is awesome.

He's got to be a big Tibbs guy for him to basically pass up on $100 million to stay there.

So he had to have some type of trust.

And his dad, right, where?

His dad's on the bench as well.

So, I mean,

it's wild, but it's

dude they're eastern conference finals

final four

like i know we're small town indiana we love basketball this state loves basketball out here it's like eastern conference finals pretty cool even more so too like hey you you went the year before next year you go to the finals like if you're the knicks you're more so thinking like hey we just got to the eastern conference finals like let's get a couple players and then let's go back maybe we have a deeper bench we get a couple players get a couple guys you know then maybe we're playing eight nine guys a night Same system, same head coach, same voice.

I don't know, but I'm assuming there's Knicks fans out there that are telling us we're idiots because, oh, yeah, it must be nice to be on the side where the team that just outcoaches the other team and wins in the playoffs every time, which is what they said about that's what they Knicks fans were saying about Carlos early on with Bruce, though.

Like, even when the playoffs first started, it was like, hey, it's two scenarios here: the Knicks go on a run or they don't, and Tibbs gets fired, and that's great because then at least there's some change.

Like, the Knicks did go on a great run, they beat the Celtics and you know, Tatum towards Achilles.

Let's say they beat the Pacers.

Yeah.

And then they play OKC, and they get swept.

Okay.

In the finals.

Tibbs gets fired?

No way.

Probably.

I don't know now.

Toronto's not going to be able to do it.

I legitimately don't know.

Who else got fired after?

Balloon got fired after what?

Year after winning.

Yeah.

Did you say Budenholzer?

Yeah, Buddha's like Milwaukee.

NBA is like, you never know.

I feel like, you know,

we talked about Brunson, like, the players have, you never really know who's moving the pieces behind the scenes in the NBA.

I feel like the NFL, you can kind of pinpoint, okay, it's going to be that guy or that guy's, maybe that guy's decision in that building that's changing huge pieces like this.

But in the NBA, I feel like it's like different powers that work that we're not necessarily privy to.

But it's the big-time players were being asked a lot after the series.

I know Brunson specifically about, hey, do you have faith?

Yeah, do you have faith in Tibbs to kind of turn it or get you guys over the hump?

But it's not like you keep getting there.

You just can't get over the hump.

Like you haven't had much success.

You haven't won a championship 73.

You get to the finals and then you fire your guy.

So we'll see what they got up their sleeve.

Yeah, we shall see.

And good luck to the Knicks, fans.

Heard a lot of you guys saying, see you next year to us in the Eastern Conference Finals.

We'll see.

New coach.

This is the only change they can make.

Seriously.

They got to have an idea of who they want.

Dolan has to have an idea of a couple people he wants.

I would like to say Dolan is hilarious in my eyes.

I think Dolan is a hilarious individual.

I think he is a.

He's got a great band.

Great band.

He's got the sphere out there.

I mean,

and he's been through it, you know, even with Knicks fans and just completely

sounds like a you thing, not a me thing.

And just keep it moving.

And then whenever we were, when I was looking for tickets and him just being, absolutely, what do we

mire you?

No way.

I mean, they boot out.

I love that.

Pacers face.

Who'd they boot out?

That's real.

I didn't know that.

That's real.

They got to him.

Two different angles.

Two different people got to him.

Like,

pretty significant people got to him.

Two different ways.

I don't.

Sent the article of me doing a thing.

I don't think so, buddy.

What are we doing?

Fucking nuts.

Yeah, we're right.

I love that.

Yeah.

Like, I think the people, whenever they gave me the answer, didn't think that I would love it.

And I was like, oh, that is awesome.

That is exactly how I would hope the owner would act in this situation.

Feels like he would like the Knicks to win.

Oh, yeah.

Yes.

Will they get it done, Bruce?

We'll be back in the playoffs for sure.

Who doesn't know?

Oh, he's been pretty docile, hadn't he?

This is docile, Bruce.

I mean, being a Yankee Giants Knicks fan is, you know, the different side of the Venn diagram to the Mets Jets Knicks fan.

I don't get how they do it.

This shit sucks.

They're never going to win an NBA championship my entire life.

And I know that.

And still, each year you just work up that hope slowly but surely and then each year it just comes crashing down.

I mean it's kind of new to be in the playoffs.

Tibbs did it three times in four and five.

In the 25 years prior to that I think we did we went there like once or twice.

Jesus.

Exactly.

I mean the faith is in Leon Rose, the GM who came over from head of CAA and completely flipped this shit around.

He hasn't really made up or made any like horrible rash decisions.

You can point at the Bridges trade as potentially one.

But I have faith in him combing through the best available guys and making a great decision.

Okay, you talked about Mets fans.

Michael Cole, also one of those.

He just texted me and said, catching up to show rap is an idiot.

That he sent me a picture of his armpit hair.

Nice.

So he just has light armpit hair, I think.

That'll happen.

It's probably because the Mets do have...

Oh, my bad.

There is armpit hair.

Okay, nice pick.

Yeah, there's armpit.

That's his armpit.

Thanks, Cole.

I'm not here.

I want to see whoever was driving next to him as he took that picture of this car.

That's Michael fucking Cole.

What is he?

Taking a picture of his armpit.

He's the greatest.

Sorry what you said.

Go ahead.

No, the Mets do have the best record in the NL, second best record in all of baseball.

So exactly.

One trainer row.

So number two team in baseball.

Yeah.

I'm telling you, I know this Mets team pretty good.

Once a week, I get a full fucking experience.

He's basically, he was saying, because Rap's basically a fake fan for not knowing that.

Well, and also, Rap is saying he's a fan because he gets free tickets to the games.

Yeah, that oversized jersey.

Yeah, so he didn't really, he'll catch up in the playoffs.

Michael Cole is there every at bat.

Grinding.

I don't know how he does it.

Legitimately, I don't know how he pays attention.

He has like an app that tells him every pitch, and it's just notification pop up.

Notification pop up.

Oh, who would have thought?

Wan Soto, fly out.

17 pitch at bat.

Some pitcher.

This guy's not going to be able to pitch past fourth inning.

Like just every single thing, it's just a new baseball thing.

I've never seen somebody do it.

Cole is with this Mets team.

I mean, they're good.

They're good.

They're better.

They're the Kings of New York.

No, they're not.

They actually just lost a series to the Yankees, so I don't know how they could be the Kings of New York when they can't beat the other team in New York, but they're good.

They're certainly good without a doubt.

Start spreading the news.

They're leaving today.

They want to

take over it.

Metzar.

New York.

They still want to lynch and kill Juan Soto, and they just spent $700

million on the guy.

So until they get that figured out,

Yankees fans are doing great with the acquisitions we made this offseason.

How are you guys?

You guys going to make the playoffs this year?

Yeah, they're leading the American League by about six games.

Pretty comfortable, pretty comfortable lead um what about the pittsburgh pirates how have we been doing i know that it is kings day wait today yep and

there's a lot of people since don kelly is taking over they are playing some salty ball don kelly yeah because new manager yeah yes

their issue is that the cubs are actually one of the best teams in baseball

chicago cubs suck we know that not this year

No, I thought they were historically terrible.

So good this year.

Oh, they won a World Series not too long ago.

It kind of broke the curse.

Oh, no, the White Sox.

The White Sox were historically bad last year, but that's not even going to matter because the Rockies are going to break.

They're going to be worse this year.

I heard you guys talk about that yesterday with Jet.

Sorry to the Cubs fans.

I thought you guys were the White Sox.

White Sox is the Pope.

Chris.

Pope is a White Sox fan.

Correct.

I apologize.

The Tigers just destroyed the White Sox last night.

Tigers are very good.

That's the best.

First team to 40.

Yeah, best recording.

Best record MLB.

Gary Carpenter hit three home runs last night.

He plays for the Tigers.

He plays for the Tigers.

Yes, he does.

And these games matter too.

Yes, they do.

What you don't know here is all these, you know, where they're ranked in the MLB, right now it's like bigger than it would be in September.

Well, especially if Jack Cagleyon's coming to town.

Have you heard about this guy?

130 mile an hour plus hits off the bat, V Lo.

Dude.

Was a pitcher in college, K in Florida.

Now he's playing first base in How Field, trying to figure it out right, Todd?

Yeah, he's probably not going to play first base in the

Big Leagues because they got Vinny Pasquentino, but he's probably going to play out.

A couple Italians running this team.

Yeah.

Not even the number one prospect in the minors.

Who's the number one prospect in the minors?

Roman Anthony.

Boston Red Sox.

You didn't see

him out in a

200 people out of 131.

There were six people standing outside.

Yeah, that was a weird thing.

That was a weird thing doing that for that thing.

I'm assuming those 20 people have been there for

two months straight.

Sure.

10, 5.

I'm assuming all of them have been there for two months straight, and he signed for all those

waits specifically if they signed him out.

Keep watching.

He Taylor Swift did it at the concert, yeah.

Yeah.

Boom, there he is.

Ice cold beers.

I just can't go back to the beginning.

There's 15 people.

Maybe I missed some people.

No, I understand.

I appreciate it.

I don't like autographed hounds either.

Okay, the people that turn it into a sport.

There's no doubt about it.

Those people are.

Yeah, they are.

The binders, yeah.

Yeah, these people are all.

This is them trying to make a living off of this guy's niceness and kindness.

They've probably taken advantage of this kid a lot.

But the way he was captioned was like, he didn't want to get mauled by fans.

And then we watched videos of seven people there.

It's like, I don't think that's the reason why he was doing it, but I do respect it.

And they need to just keep those people out of there.

Let's tell them the fuck off.

They need to call

it.

More people should.

More people.

Those people with the bike, like, come on.

More people should do that.

People should feel more comfortable telling the autograph hounds, the people that make a living off of praying off of your niceness.

and popping up in places that are so ridiculous.

I mean, I'll have people pop up out of the woods, like at an airport that I'm pulling up to, just middle of the night, 1 a.m., pop up out of nowhere, garbage bag full of things.

I was wondering if you'd sign a couple things and then pull the fucking garbage rack out.

They got 45 things.

Who won't even make it out to?

Nobody.

No, they even got shit that you can make it out.

They can get it.

They'll race it.

Yeah, I can get it off.

They'll even bring their kids.

Scumbag.

Yeah, they have their kids have a bag of shit.

Do you remember that?

Oh, yeah.

I had to tell one kid that this is not how life goes.

Right.

Like, I signed it, and I was like, this is not how this goes.

You should know that this is not how this goes.

I don't, I get it, the hustle and bustle, but then charging people that are fans of ours for that shit is just so absurd in my eyes, too.

Because if I run into you, I'll sign for you.

I'll take a picture with you.

I'll talk to you, do the whole thing.

Just the people with the garbage bags and all the shit, I just can't.

And they expect,

they try to grandstand on you being a bad person, too.

It's like, all right, I'm a bad guy.

See ya.

I've had to evolve into that feeling.

I've had to evolve into that.

I'll sign some of them for them.

I'll tell some people like, I'll do two per, two per, two person.

And then there's always somebody trying to get back in rows if I didn't see them.

I just saw you, bro.

I see your fingers.

There was actually these one guys that came with an autographed Sidney Crosby thing and an autographed Barry Sanders thing, knowing I would be there.

They exchanged those to us for Pat's autograph.

It was good business.

I actually respected that.

I respected that.

And I did sign.

I did sign.

Oh, definitely.

Yeah, we got an autograph in return.

I'm like, okay, this is a good business.

This is good business.

I don't like doing the autograph thing.

I don't like people spending the money that people spend on those things.

People really spend money on those things.

Oh, yeah.

Still a big market?

That's their fault.

I don't know about my market in general, but I do know that people spend money on that stuff.

And I'm like, don't, I don't know.

It's not worth it.

Because my signature, too, like, what?

That thing's changing.

Yeah.

Like, I watch Pawn Stars and they have to legitimize an autograph or whatever.

And it's like, how would you legitimize mine?

Similar, but boy, you get lazy sometimes.

That's just a big old P on there.

And then it's just a.

Have you seen Shohei's signature?

Is it awesome?

Yeah.

So sick.

Sick.

See, that one's worth.

Yeah, he does like the Japanese lettering next to it, too.

Like, it's really cool.

Yeah.

See, that is a card that'll be worth so much money whenever it's all said and done.

He's the best player in baseball right now.

No.

Really?

All right.

Yeah.

Big Dumper in Seattle is pretty good, too.

Yep.

Who's that?

Caleb.

Big Dumper.

He's leading the league in home runs with Shohei.

He's got 23.

Big Dumper's his name.

What's his actual name?

Cal Rowley, aka Big Dumper.

He's a big bopper.

Guy mashes the baseball, dude.

What's his nickname?

Big Dumper.

I actually saw Mariners fans super upset the other day because he took the lead for most home runs in the league.

And they were upset because the MLB account didn't have full...

Every time Otani hits a home run and makes it, you know, the league lead, they, you know, they go all out.

And they weren't doing that for the Mariners guy.

So Mariners fans were super upset.

I assume Seattle sports fans feel as if they get

shafted when it comes to attention on a regular basis, which definitely is true.

They're good, though.

Mariner's good.

You got a guy named Big Dumper on the squad.

I'm a fan of the Big Dump.

Let's make sure we add Big Dump into the updates whenever we're doing big baseball teams.

Sounds good.

Mariner's one of those teams I'm not, you know, usually keeping too many tabs on because they.

This guy's Aquaman, Big Dump.

Yeah, the Trident is.

That's the Trident.

Mariner's deal.

They start every game at like fucking 1045 Eastern, though.

It's great, beautiful ballpark.

I'll catch one.

I'll catch one.

A lot of fans out there.

A baseball?

One from Big Dumper?

No, No, I'll catch a game.

Oh, that's a tick.

They just retired 51.

No, wait, for each row and Randy Johnson.

That's great news.

Was that Big Dumper right there just hit one off the ground?

Oh, yeah.

That's Big Dumper Baseball.

Ichero and Randy Johnson both were the number 51 for the Seattle Manners.

They were retired it for both of them.

Has that ever happened before in sports?

I don't know.

It seemed pretty cool when I saw it.

Me, too.

I thought that was like really sweet, actually.

And it feels like those two are the right two people.

Yeah.

Take time to do it.

Another place it may happen.

Denver.

Nuggets.

Yeah.

Joker.

With 15.

Joker and Mellow.

Mellow Brosby Hall of of Fame.

That'd be cool.

Yeah, it would be sweet.

Long-term.

What about Terry Bradshaw and Aaron Rodgers?

That could happen.

If that happens,

I doubt Terry will let him get up.

Yeah.

Every time I hear him talk, I'm just like, Jesus, yo, chew on some bark, buddy.

What a line.

It's really, I can see how.

There was more to that quote, too.

I think they left the best part out.

It's just been nice.

What was the best part?

Yeah,

I believe it was, I don't want to misquote the great Terry Bradshaw, but I believe it was chew on bark and Whisper to the Gods.

But you don't want to yell at him because you don't have to listen.

He said his R is like every time he comes around, it feels like it's just going to start to snow.

Terry Bradshaw's

guys do.

Yep, chew on bark and whisper to the gods.

That's a bar.

Terry Bradshaw's been doing TV a long time.

He is.

Every time he comes around, I just, don't we all feel it?

Kind of fucking the worst feeling.

Goddamn snowstorm coming in.

Hunkered down.

He's got a mandatory minicamp next week for Ian Rapperport or what?

I mean, he has to.

Sounds like he has to by this week, next time.

Otherwise, they're going to say, no deal.

You're done.

AJ, is he going?

I mean, I think because Ian wants to make sure it doesn't interrupt any of his golf rounds, he would like him to report next week.

And we told him this jokingly that Aaron will follow along with his social media and see when he's potentially...

Oh, Ian Rapperport's taking a flight to Australia.

Well, now's the time.

Let's go ahead.

He's not going to have any service.

Let's go ahead and drop this out.

Just because.

That's why anything is possible with Aaron Rodgers.

Anything.

Aaron Rodgers plays for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

They go to the playoffs.

Yes.

Do they win a playoff game?

No.

AFC is stacked.

I'm not sure.

AFC North?

Yes and no.

They don't go.

It doesn't matter.

We've talked about something for six months and the joke's on us because it won't even fucking matter in the end.

What do you mean it won't matter?

Are the Steelers going to the Super Bowl if Aaron Rodgers goes there?

We're asking if they win a playoff.

I think some Steelers fans feel that's possible.

Do you, Tony?

No.

So does it really matter in the end?

What's the purpose of the season?

I mean,

truly.

Hey, look.

Danny Dimes?

What's the purpose of life?

I think most teams aren't afraid of the Steelers anymore when it comes to

Aaron Rodgers.

Yeah.

To live.

And words are spells.

To leave an impact.

Yeah, and words are spells.

Yep.

But words are spelled.

Okay?

Because they can cast spells.

True.

You're right.

There's a lot of deepness to a lot of this.

You better brush up on that shit.

He's coming.

He's coming, pal.

What do you mean, that shit?

Just

all of his Rogerisms that he's

been broke on us the last couple years.

You better brush up on that shit, Tony, because guess what?

You're going to be regurgitating that every Monday, y'all.

Oh, Aaron.

I think you guys are going to...

I think they go on a run.

I think they could go on a run.

No, you don't.

No, you don't.

You don't believe that for a fucking secret.

Yes, I do.

I met some of the boys.

I like their vibe.

Exactly.

Yeah.

So I

Cam Hayward was eating a salad at 8.07 p.m.

Post-Malone concert, Jelly Roll concert.

That's all.

He's locked in, dialed in.

I've never seen somebody, and I've said this before, with a T in their position in football, eating a salad at a concert at 8.07 p.m.

in front of everybody when there was chicken nuggies available, chicken wings available, pizza was available.

There was some little egg roll things, little sandwiches were available.

I mean, you're talking.

Cam would be great.

I don't know.

Rogie was slinging at the end of last year.

Yeah.

Yes, he was.

Healthy.

Remember, he was skirting through, too.

Yeah, he was

fucking cast them spells on me.

See, why's he always got to do that?

Because now I don't think he's being serious.

Because, dude, it's just

no, I'm pumped.

It's going to be one of these things where it's going to come to November, and I'm going to remember this moment right here.

This is fun.

Just like, holy fuck, the offseason

is so bad.

That team that he's got on his hat that won three games last year is going to win 12 this year.

I think if you look at the schedule, it's much easier.

And I would almost bet that, yes, we'll be better than the Steelers.

But again, just like I'm saying with you.

Our guys are eating salads.

807.

Your guys are on boats doing drugs.

Oh, no, that is not drugs.

No, that is not easy.

But it doesn't matter either way because

there's, what, five, sixteens that can win the Super Bowl?

Seven, maybe?

Well, I'll tell you what.

If this guy's spinning it at UCLA, Seth Hutt, Seth Hutt,

Seth Hut, is this new?

Mary 19.

You tell me if that looks new.

Yeah, good as yesterday and a month before.

When was last 33 in football?

We all know.

Who knows?

We have no idea.

Mike Studd, though, played baseball at Duke, right?

I bet Mike Studd's running quite a few posts.

Couple of these?

Yeah.

Couple of these?

Couple of these.

Laid hands?

Be like DK.

So he gets up on some stilts.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Maybe he gets the,

you know, the paperclip legs.

Are you talking about Force Goat?

Poor little Ting Ting.

Oh, you're talking.

Samurai.

Samurai Sword Legs.

I still don't know why he was a lot.

All right.

Be your friend, tell a friend something nice.

That's what we're going to do here.

Not our friend, but I don't fully understand why he was allowed to race against everybody else.

Yeah, I mean, he shouldn't have been.

Definitely not our friend.

He's a piece of shit.

Yeah, he tightened that thing up, too.

Maybe Power Drill.

We were talking about that earlier.

Yeah,

yeah.

Fourth race of the day.

At a pick crew.

Never won any of them.

Once again, it didn't matter in the end.

He did win.

I mean, to get the Olympics,

you got to beat somebody at some point.

Put too much WD-40 on one of them and you ran like 78 miles an hour.

They're like, we got to fucking make this a little bit more believable.

That guy's fucking lap in the field in in the 400.

Yeah.

They had to put a fucking governor on the guy.

Yeah, they did.

He took the restrictor plate off for qualifiers.

So, you like, you know how in hockey, you know, in hockey, you like you have so much bend on the stick, they monitor that.

Same thing with those.

Exactly.

This guy cannot have a full fucking trajectory C down there.

Never get a cramp in his calf.

No, ever.

Never, never, ever tearing his Achilles.

Feet never getting tired.

Never hurting anything.

Like, that's all.

I thought he was going to win.

Someone's a little bit ahead of him, he could fucking slice their Achilles with the tip of his, you know, just watch him go down.

Lunge.

Yeah, exactly.

Didn't a lot of runners think about cutting their legs off?

No.

I assume.

I assume there's people thinking about it.

I don't think that report is ever.

On purpose?

Some people cut both of them off.

No, I think it was just a conversation you started.

No, I thought.

Yeah, I think it was just a conversation.

They changed the rules after they cut him off.

They cut his legs off.

All right.

Let's get out of here.

We would like everybody to thrive.

Do your thing.

We'll be in Kerry, North Carolina.

It's going to be electrifying.

I think I'm going to do a,

I got some things happening Friday, Saturday as well

that I think I'll be able to,

I think what's about to happen here, just a standard week for me, right?

You don't want to talk about this.

Yeah.

This is just standard week, you know.

Standard week in my life, you know?

I think I'm going to post about it, though, like live thread about what my life is at the time, because I would like people to experience it with me and also understand that it's also stupid.

Like when oh,

oh, oh,

goes on a run down here in Carey, North Carolina.

I can't wait to see this in person.

Were you there last week?

Yeah, Debot.

You didn't see it, did you?

Oh, okay, Debut.

And the piss earlier.

It's good, Debut.

I was like, hey, what's the biggest game you play?

Oh, AFC Championship with Julet.

Pells a comparison.

Fucking career in North Carolina.

So can't wait.

Why are you doing that?

Damn, right.

Why are you doing that?

I did say that word.

It shit me worse.

Word for word in the back.

What happened?

I said to Debull, it was the biggest football game you ever played in your life.

And he said, ASC championship.

So, okay.

That's going to pale in comparison to what you're going to see in Carrie at TST.

I'll tell you what, you're going to get lost on her.

Can't wait.

You're going to get lost in a like post-morning gets lost in his lyrics.

Did you win that game?

We got cheated.

Yeah, we did.

All right.

Running back.

I don't know if we went into that either.

I've been seeing some of the guys on our team at that point.

It was also disproven.

It wasn't cheating at all.

No, Bill Nye, the science guy, told me.

The liberal?

Push Bill Nye.

What are you talking about?

It's only one deal now.

Oh, no, I know a couple.

I said the science guy.

Oh, oh.

What are you talking about?

I don't even know.

No, no, it got disproven by actually rest in peace, sports science guy.

A legit rest in peace.

For shoot, man.

Yeah, for shoot, rest in peace.

He changed, I mean, that changed sports coverage there.

Yeah, legitimately.

Great shoot.

And it got disproven because they did the PSI test from the DeFlight Gate game,

which they never did before the DeFlight Gate game for every single game in 2015, the year after.

And every single game that the degrees dropped from the start of the game to the end of the game, the PSI changed.

That's not what I heard from potential political, I don't know what side affiliated political.

No, I'm

thinking of a different bill.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I assume Bill Nye is potentially on the side that you have, but I'm not 100% sure.

I just know Bill Nye came out and said...

Might be the conservative, too.

I don't know.

I ran the numbers.

I ran the numbers.

This is cheating.

And four years later, you get the suspension.

Yeah, and then the entire season the next year, they ran the same test and they realized, yeah, it's not true.

And then you guys won two more.

Jeez.

Congratulations.

Give them the motivation they needed.

That's all they needed.

They're down there in North Carolina, that crew.

What crew?

Who?

Bill and the boys.

Bill Belichick and the boys.

Oh, you're right.

Well, kind of a different crew, but yeah.

For the most part.

I think there's a lot of the members of the crew down there, aren't you?

How far is that?

How far is Chapel Hill?

From like Ohio or from Cary.

From Carrie.

I think we're in the ballpark there.

Stone's Throw.

Maybe he's doing like the anthem or something.

Bill?

Yeah.

That'd be a good way to kick it off.

You're the greatest.

All right.

This is the last show from

The Halidum.

Okay, I think we fall on the halidome.

I like that.

I think we fall in the halal dump.

I like that.

I like that.

I don't know.

What about the rest of the boys?

What about the other boys, though?

I hate it.

This is the Thunderdome.

Okay, we can't be scared.

We're like this Seattle.

What are we doing?

What are we living in our fears for?

This isn't us.

That reminds me, there's a lot of good Halley memes out there, right?

True.

Yeah, exactly.

The Halodome probably has a lot of different connotations right now.

Yeah, well, they're putting other things after Hallow a lot.

I'm sick and tired of seeing Tyrese dressed up like Osama bin Laden.

Stop doing that.

Okay, I get it.

It's funny.

Ha ha ha ha.

I'm sick and tired of seeing opening up my and thinking, wait,

is that?

No, that's not.

That's Tyrese with Osama bin Laden's beard and turban on.

I'm sick of that.

Why are they doing that?

I don't know.

I don't get it.

They call him the Haliban.

Yeah, Mr.

Haliban.

Call him the Haliban.

Think about his dad.

Exactly.

His dad opened up X saying, I'm proud of my boy.

I can't even sit courtside.

Oh, that's calling him Bin Laden.

Yeah.

Jeez, Luis.

Is he leaning into that?

I don't think he's how.

SGA is.

I've seen some of Shea, too.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Shea is also, I mean, this is what it's like to be a young star in the social media age.

Yeah, it is.

The jokes are going to fly.

And if one catches, everybody's going, everybody's going to enroll with it.

Yep, that's why I saw a lot of people worrying about Cooper Flag.

He's going to be a great player.

He made 28 million.

No change.

In like the first 10 games, I think.

Yeah, and I signed a 10-day with the Pacer.

When this number gets reported, you know, like, it's just like

Naijari,

Kennedy.

They're saying she's making a million bucks.

It's like, how do we know that?

What if it's more?

Could be.

What if it's less?

You know, how do we, they just kind of ballpark what it potentially is.

I don't know how you know, like Cooper flag, how much money is he getting from Duke?

How much money is he getting from collective?

How much money is he getting from local

business shoes?

Like, how much, like, is he, he made 28 million?

Congrats to him.

That's crazy.

That's a lot of money.

I might have stuck stuck around.

Yeah, well, exactly.

That's something to think about, which is happening in college football, which is why all these quarterbacks are growing older because they're getting offered two, three, four million dollars to transfer as opposed to going to the NFL and be a third rounder,

third rounder, fourth rounder.

Do I want to do that?

Or do I want to transfer and get $4 million from this place, play college football again, maybe win a national championship?

It's like, it's affecting football for sure, the amount of money you can make.

But if Cooper Flag is making $28 million at Duke, it's like, holy shit.

You start looking at the future future for a lot of these, like Swagu's kid.

Yeah.

He's got to make so much money.

Did you hear his personality?

He was mic'd up.

He's mic'd up at the team USA thing.

Beloved, it seemed like, by his teammates.

Great personality.

Obviously, very well connected in the world.

And Swagu might have a

daughter, I think, is.

His daughter is like the number one volleyball player, isn't she?

Yeah, the son is now Team USA basketball player.

He's a teenager.

It's like, I think his wife, former WNBA player.

Yeah.

I believe we looked it up.

Yep.

And to him, he was

first-round pick.

yeah, top top football and basketball recruit coming out.

I didn't know he was top basketball recruit.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah, he's an athlete, man.

He's great.

I enjoy his personality, too.

He's not on TV a lot, though, because I think he's raising professional athletes.

Yeah,

keep going, Swaggy.

Let's go parenting.

I hope to be a part of that someday.

Be a friend, tell a friend something nice might change your life.

We're live in Carrie tomorrow.

TST.

A million dollars on the line.

AJ, what's it sound like?

What?

You know what?

What's what?

TST?

I don't know.

AJ, what's the sound like?

I'm genuinely confused right now.

Come on, come on.

Oh, okay.

There we go.

There you go.

We're going with that.

All right, team on me, team on three.

We'll see you tomorrow live from North Carolina.

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