PMS 2.0 1344 - Peter Schrager, Quentin Richardson, Bubba Watson LIVE In The ThunderDome, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome.

On this conference finals Tuesday, May 20th, 2025, this program starts now

for

our wonderful one tonight.

The conference finals begin for the NBA and the NHL.

In the NHL, we got the Oilers and the Stars.

The Oilers are last hope for a Canadian franchise to win the Stanley Cup for the first time in 2,000 years.

Good luck to the Oilers alongside Connor, Mick Jesus, and the boys.

Oh, never mind.

That is tomorrow.

Tonight is Panthers and Hurricanes.

We don't even get Mick Jesus this evening.

We get the Standing Cup champion Panthers and the Hurricanes

tonight, which is going to be amazing.

Cannot wait to see the Kanyaks show up 20,000 strong in Raleigh and the Florida Panthers try to defend their Standing Cup run after knocking out the Toronto Maple Leafs in devastating fashion,

annihilating all of Toronto and basically every Canadian alongside of that ass beating.

I got a chance to see the glorious Bob Roode last night at Monday Night Raw.

He is a Maple Leafs fan.

He is a proud Canadian.

And his interaction with me was basically me walking up to him doing one of these and him going, I don't want to talk about it.

I got to work right now.

I think that's how a lot of Maple Leafs fans feel.

This was supposed to be the year.

This was going to be the run for the Maple Leafs, but instead, the reigning, defending, undisputed, shout out to Paul Heyman, Stanley Cup champions, the Florida Panthers, who add Marshie in the middle of the season, continue on an epic run of dynastic proportions.

Nine-year NFL vet Darius J.

Butler has been a Florida Panthers fan since the very beginning.

He loves the hockey.

And right now he's in the middle of a run with Lordo that can only be described as spectacular.

How do you feel going into the Kaniaks, brother?

They just knocked off a Capitals team that I don't think any of us expected the Capitals to potentially lose.

Now, the Kanes were favored in that particular match.

But heavily heavily favored.

And they certainly did their thing.

But the Capitals, with Ovechkin, with the run that they were on, maybe were going to have a magical run.

And the Canes said, uh-uh, the Hurricanes may be built to go and run this year.

Are the Florida Panzers going to be scrappy enough?

And tonight, are they going to get the dub?

We asked Darius J.

Butler.

I think so, of course.

And I know you said you thought it was the Oilish year.

People beliefed in the Maple League, but no, it was these guys all along.

I think we were going to repeat, especially with the trades that we made.

The job that GM Bill Zito has done.

Another GM was signed to an extension.

That was a Knuckle Pucker.

Did you see that?

I didn't know that was a Jones.

That was a little snap knucklepop.

Yep,

depth guy.

We traded for it from Chicago.

Obviously, Marshi coming over.

So, yeah, I would be worried, if anything, the Russ versus Russ conversation you always had because

the Kanes will be fresher.

But I'm not worried about my guys at all.

They're ready for this moment.

Third year in a row, we're in the Eastern Conference Finals, and we kick off tonight.

So I'm excited about that.

Boiler stars will be tomorrow, obviously, as I was saying at the very beginning of this.

And the NBA Timberwolves thunder tip off the conference finals, obviously, for the Western Conference.

This Oklahoma City team has been awesome all year.

Best in the entire NBA all year long.

They hadn't proven it, though, in the playoffs.

Were they going to be able to take the next step and become a championship pedigree team?

Is SGA, who's been spectacular, been phenomenal, been great at hoops, obviously, for this.

Some people say he's a free throw merchant, but nonetheless, he has been great for this Oklahoma City team.

Will they be able to get the job done in the playoffs?

And then for the Minnesota Timberwolves, Ant's the next one.

He's the face of the league.

He's the next guy.

Well, is he going to be able to go on an actual playoff run when all eyes are on the NBA?

Yes, both of them have shown up.

Now they're in the conference finals.

Who's going to stop that guy?

Okay.

Who's going to stop Anthony Edwards?

Good question.

Yeah, they're probably calling up the Dortcher Chamber to Lou Dort.

That's their guy.

I got

to take it down.

Listen, maybe, okay, baby.

Who's going to stop then Julius Ray?

I mean, this team right here, the Minnesota Timberbulls, I don't think a lot of people are giving them any respect to go on a run.

But then you watch them play, and it's like that guy's will to win and will to compete is one that is spectacular.

And I know SGA is the exact same, and I know this OKC team's good, but this is like a sneaky, incredible matchup here.

And I think what Ant is going to be able to draw from this Oklahoma City team and the way he's going to make them react and act, I think, in this is an advantage.

I think the head game is always going to be, the mental game is always going to be in Anthony Edwards' corner.

And I'm excited to watch this.

Congrats to both of them making it to the conference finals.

It's the future of the NBA being represented.

Obviously, Ant, SGA, Jalen Brunson, Tyrese Halliburton.

Okay, these are four young stars that are about to carry the NBA for the next, I don't know, 10, 15 years, all doing battle.

And I think the NBA has got it right.

Ratings are up.

Ratings are high for the NBA.

Ratings are high for the NHL.

And also, news just came out, ratings are higher than it's ever been for the WNBA.

Yeah.

Congrats to Caitlin Clark.

That's right.

Nice.

It's crazy how it's always the fever, seems like.

Or it's a game that the fever game is leading into.

Sure.

It's crazy how that works.

I mean, you know, what are you going to do?

Proofs to the pudding, California.

You're going to girl out of Iowa.

Exactly.

Who can pull up from the state next door and light up an entire arena, every arena.

And I think the reason why I feel obligated to talk about a sport that I don't know enough about, okay, the WNBA.

Sure.

I don't know enough about it.

I was never able to play it.

Okay.

I know it's a different style of basketball.

I know it is a different sport.

I watch the Fever Games.

I don't get a chance to watch many other games.

What she has done for the business in Indianapolis, okay, I've gone to a couple fever games pre,

we'll say BCC.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Before Caitlin Clark.

I went to a couple fever games.

Was lucky to go.

Had a great team.

Fever have had a great franchise, great team for a long time.

Won, like...

2012.

Yeah, won, like back at the, I got here in 2009.

So like the Fever, good program, great fan base.

Okay.

We're talking, I don't know, maybe 7,000, 10,000 people at those games, you know, in the middle of the week in Game Bridge Arena.

Since she has arrived, every game that the Fever play in, that place is packed.

That means local businesses are having a lot of uptick.

What she has done for the Indianapolis economy in a league that I don't think has been known to be such a needle mover economically wise to the cities, it's like worthy of respect.

Now, granted, all last year, she had to prove herself to, I'll say, the OGs of the WNBA.

It's not going to be the same as it was in college.

It's not going to be the same.

Everybody gets talked about this whenever they're a rookie, yada, yada, yada.

I think she has finally earned the respect and credibility of her peers, but the league knows.

Every team she plays against knows.

They're moving into bigger arenas so that they can sell more tickets.

The WNBA is putting her into primetime locations because they understand what it is.

And I think for the WNBA, they need to continue to capitalize off of her.

And she's the right one.

She is the right one.

Great Moxie, great personality, full dog, full dog.

She's been in that gym all offseason.

Little clips will come out from the fever of her just putting up 100 shots or whatever.

It's all offseason, all work for Caitlin Clark.

We're lucky to have her here.

WNBA is certainly lucky that she's there.

They average either 2.5 million or 2.7 million.

One of the two.

The tweets said 2.5.

The graphics said 2.7.

And then it peaked at 3.1 million or something like that, which outdid.

Yeah, the Sunday Night Baseball, which was Mets Yankees.

And that was the best Sunday Night Baseball viewership they've gotten in like seven years.

I think that was like 2.4 million.

Okay, so I remember in the offseason, Angel Reese's podcast, they were talking about like, hey, we might hold out or something like that.

CBA, yeah.

Yeah, with the new CBA coming.

Now, obviously, we are

an athlete-led show.

that are coming from an athlete's side, sticking up for athletes more often than not.

Also happen to be okay business person.

I think 10, 15 years from now, maybe 20 years from now, they'll look back back at the business that this little doofus group here has done and say, oh, those dudes were probably 10, 15 years ahead of everybody else.

Respect business, love business, been doing business since fifth grade when I was selling cigarettes for 50 cents.

Okay.

So like, I enjoy the activity.

When you have a CBA, you're trying to negotiate a fair amount of money to employees from employer.

Like that is what the goal is.

When league is losing money, And you come out and say, we need more, we need more, we need more, it's just a bad look.

You turn people off immediately.

But there's an opportunity now with this particular season, with how things are going, especially with Caitlin getting as much.

And by the way, you can be jealous or hate Caitlin, whatever you want.

You should at least acknowledge that she has a chance to take us to the promised land.

Like if these numbers continue to be what they are, if Caitlin Clark and the WNBA continue to outrate these other sports, Disney, ESPN, TNT, you name it, these people are going to shut out bigger deals for the TV deals.

Adam Silver, obviously, commissioner of the NBA, also the commissioner, I believe, of the WNBA, is a great businessman.

He's got, what, $8 billion or something for the NBA, whenever their ratings were allegedly in decline.

It's like the WNBA has a chance to become a very profitable league.

And I think they just need to acknowledge that it's the CC train that is going to take them there.

And also the quality, the product, good.

Product is very, I don't know what it was like.

Okay, I didn't follow every single.

Once again, did go to some fever games, BCC, enjoyed it and everything like that.

But I think the sport's getting better.

The eyes are getting larger.

Younger kids, younger girls are watching because of her.

And it's like, why not the WNBA taking a leap into becoming a profitable business for all parties, which is good for the players.

So whenever you're talking about holding out and everything like that, I think you've got to get to a point where there's money to be made.

And then once the money is made, it's like, now we got a profitable business.

Now we're running the shit.

Now we don't have to do the three on three.

Now we don't have to worry about these other things because we see these contracts that they're signing that Caitlin Clark signed for the WNBA.

And we're all offended by it.

That's peanuts.

We're all offended by it because it's like two suites that are being sold for one game to come watch Caitlin Clark is her entire salary.

It's like that's not fair to Caitlin Clark at all.

But I think Caitlin Clark sees the bigger picture, wants to leave WNBA better than whenever she got there.

And obviously, I think Angel Reese is a part of this with how big her personality is and how well she's known.

But it's like, right, just let's go.

It's good for sports, the more eyes on all these things.

And I think, obviously, as a lot of girl dads in here, it's great that that is where it's headed, but it just needs to be acknowledged by everybody.

that there is a driver behind it.

And it happens to be a bucket from Iowa in Caitlin Clark.

Yeah, that's why I just like the argument is stupid.

You know, like you can, you can say whatever you want, but it's very obvious.

And I think even the WNBA as like a whole, like their, their, you know, front office, front league office, I guess, if you will, like, they might not publicly.

Oh, you know.

They have publicly, though.

They said, hey, all these games are primetime.

Yeah, exactly.

WNBA, all the Fever's games are prime time.

They got more primetime games than the Lakers have.

Yeah.

Definitely more than the Colts have.

Definitely more than the Pacers have.

Yep.

legit and she fills up a stadium in an arena more than anybody else she's and i had somebody tweet me this the other day uh before we talked about caitlin's debut you better talk about the biggest star in indianapolis this year or whatever and it's like i'm not good at talking about the w i don't know enough about the w nba to talk about it but i do know enough about business i do know enough about a superstar and caitlin clark is both of those things and she has the work ethic to back it up like this isn't just going to be a flash in a pan this is going to be this is going to be for the foreseeable future because of how hard she works.

And here in Indianapolis, how gettable it is, like get-to-able it is in Indy.

She's drawing Ohio.

She's drawing Kentucky.

She's drawing Illinois, Michigan.

You got people traveling.

I mean, I was even traveling every, you got people traveling to come watch here in Indiana.

And then every other arena is the same damn thing.

She has home games in every arena she goes to.

And it's a wonderful thing.

It is a great thing for sports.

And it does feel like more and more people are starting to understand.

Like WNBA, definitely, to your point, more primetime games.

They get it.

Some of the pundits might not be there yet because I think they're OGs around the league, don't just want to just hand over a torch to a young buck that's coming in.

I understand that completely.

But it's like at some point, if you were to rally around this and everybody was kind of like to promote this, it's like then your league potentially becomes, and the numbers are saying now the first weekend, we're in a good spot for the WNBA.

Yeah, and hopefully, like all the other stuff doesn't fall on deaf ears and like everybody kind of acknowledges it too.

I think it will help like the college game building stars there as well, like a Juju Watkins, but even the discourse around the WNBA, like there were a few guys yesterday on the internet talking about it, and it just brings more light to the game in general, I feel like, and also hammers on the point, like, hey, let's focus on the basketball instead of all the other, you know, BS that can come with sports in general, let alone just the WNBA, just every sport.

So this is a sport coming into, I know the league's been around a long time.

A lot of great work by a lot of people to have that league for a long time.

I'm I'm not saying that isn't the case.

It takes time to get like...

Boom.

But now it's like you're becoming a league, like a big-time dominant job.

Yeah.

And like there's going to be some, you know, that's a transition that everybody is going to have to deal with.

Whenever you get more eyes on you, obviously you're going to get more hate.

So we've learned this.

So brilliant.

Bingo.

The bigger you get, the more people that like you, you assume.

Okay, that is kind of how it goes.

But also, just natural human interaction is there's going to be more more people that hate you as well.

I said this the other, maybe last week, and I got the quote from Kirk Kirbstreet whenever I was going through some shit in the college football world.

He's like, hey, the higher you climb the mountain, the windier it's going to get.

You know, like that is kind of how it goes.

The more.

popular, the bigger you get, there's going to be more eyes.

More people are going to like you, more people are going to hate you.

And I think the WNBA is currently experiencing that.

I think there's a lot of people that are experiencing for the first time an entire arena potentially hating them.

That has happened in many massive leagues in the past.

But now the WNBA is starting to experience that.

So I think there is a little transition here.

Everybody kind of has to get used to it.

And then once they do that, it's like, let's roll with this thing because Caitlin's going to play for a long time.

Angels are hopefully going to be able to play for a long time.

There's young superstars coming out of women's college hoops that are going to be able to carry some things.

It's like they got a real shit here.

They got a real opportunity here, I think.

And I hope they seize it.

I legitimately hope they seize it.

And I'm happy that Indianapolis is in the dead center of it.

Love hoops, love hosting people.

And Caitlin Clark has brought a lot to our city.

And to your point, Ty, and yours, D-butt, 41 of the 44 games are on national television.

Exactly.

They were on Ion Network last year, and it was like the third highest-rated WNBA game that they had all season.

Most national TV games for a single team in WNBA history, most national TV games in franchise history.

It's like, well, obviously the second one would lead to the third one there, but I like that we're just putting every single stat

that we have out there.

But it's the real deal.

They are a draw.

And whenever you have a draw, you have to understand that it's a draw and you have to take advantage of that.

and the WNBA is doing that shout out to them for doing good business it'll be good for everybody and you mentioned like the league being around for a while and now it's you know approaching like a new stratosphere and I feel like this is almost like with the Saudi leagues that are happening like the Saudi soccer leagues and like live like the era that those leagues are in right now they're kind of trying to get to where the WNBA is now where like everybody is bought in the league is very established and now everyone wants to have eyes on it versus before we're like maybe it wasn't as popular.

The things that were going on with with other sports might have been you know even better and now that they have a caitlin clark and angel rees and you know pay page

like there's camera they're superstars they've got a lot of stars around them yeah and that's caitlin is the super though yeah and that's what the that's what these other leagues have been trying to look for these new leagues that are forming like they're trying to poach massive superstars because they know that what comes with superstars are ratings and eyes.

And that is what is happening with Caitlin Clark.

And it's happening with other people in the league as well, but never to the scale of Caitlin Clark.

And if like, we can say the proofs in the pudding, but there's legitimate numbers that you can compare to each other that show you the scoreboard.

Everything for ratings is going down except for football, right?

Pretty much.

Basically, live television ratings basically either stagnant or going down.

WNBA is having a...

Like, that's a massive deal.

Huge update.

Like, I assume in their front office, in the executives of which I think they share offices with the NBA, which is a little bit different than Live because they do have a

brother relationship with the nba so there is always like deals that are being kind of encompassing all of it but watching them kind of do their thing and have their thing and caitlin being at the middle of it and indianapolis being in the middle of it is a beautiful thing for us and it might be parade season around here yeah basketball might become parade season yeah don't look now everybody on get up picked the knicks oh yeah and if we've seen anything out of these espn

predictions 0 for 22 in the second round in the eastern conference yeah what yeah everyone picked the the Celtics in the Cavs.

0 for 22, brother.

Yeah.

Damn, nobody would.

0% from the field.

You know, now, granted, Knicks,

Knicks, Celtics, Celtics are ranked champs.

We get it.

Gonna be tough.

Cavs, number one team in the East.

Pacers, who are they?

Well, if you did a little research, Pacers are the hottest team in the NBA outside of LKC since January.

We've been banging that drum literally since January, I think, strictly because I talk to Tyrese and talk to the boys, and I go, hey, am I allowed to talk shit about you guys on my show?

Am Am I going to look like an asshole?

And they go, we got a good team.

We got a good, we are finding it right now.

Post-all-star break.

Tyrese didn't make the all-star game.

Won a gold medal, has been an all-star multiple times, is the franchise player for the Indiana Pacers.

Pascal Siakam made all-star game.

Tyrese did not.

Bad first half of the year.

Post-all-star break, Tyrese found his shit.

Pacers found their shit.

And they've been running.

And everybody gets hurt.

Against the Pacers.

Yeah.

Everybody gets hurt.

Oh, they're playing against hurt teams.

That's because they run their asses out of the gym.

They will run you out of the gym.

That is the style that they play.

Everybody talks about how lucky they get.

It's like, what if the style that they play is actually a part of their strategy in making you not be able to keep up?

They're in great shape.

They're seemingly more healthy than they were last year.

They're confident.

They're mature.

They've been here before last year with this entire thing.

And them taking on the Knicks, especially with the history of the Pacers Knicks robbery, beautiful thing for basketball.

Whenever we talk about these sports right now, we got McGee's playing in the NHL.

Rematch there.

He's the next star.

With the stars.

That's a rematch.

That's huge.

The NHL loves that McGee's is still around right now in the conference finals.

You got the reigning champs with an added heel in Marshi to their team.

That's great for the NHL.

The Kaniaks, 20,000 strong in that arena, they don't get nearly enough love.

And then you go to basketball, it's like Anthony Edwards must watch, both on the court and off the court.

SGA in that Oklahoma City team is like a college environment down there in Oklahoma City.

League MVP, yeah.

Yeah, and then Pacers next.

like right now sports are throwing a

100 on the bank yeah

i get it indy 500s this week indy 500s happening this weekend gonna be outrageous don't forget about monaco f1 monaco of course so that's their worst race right that's f1's worst race yes and you guys happen to have it on the same day as the best race in the world in the indy 500 that's a tough look for f1 yeah it's easy to compare two remember because You know, F1's in the morning, so you can watch that poop.

Wake up, wake up, go back to sleep while watching.

watching.

Holy shit, are these guys racing or driving around town?

Yeah.

Oh, those are really expensive cars following single file.

Holy shit.

And then you wake up and the Annie 500 is 235 miles an hour, brother.

Partying in the night.

350,000 people.

Sold out 109th.

That might be 400,000 people there.

Yeah, maybe more.

Some guy tweeted today that one in every 1,100 people in the United States will be in Indianapolis on Sunday.

Traffic's going to be great getting in and out of there.

Certainly Certainly fun.

Can't wait for all of us to do that.

Hell yeah.

Yeah, we're going to go to that.

Every single one of us.

We're definitely going to be there.

I mean, I'd be in Monaco, so

travels, dude.

That would be the cooler one to go.

And the NFL is obviously happening all the time.

Football is obviously lingering.

Not just because ex-football guys battle each other on social media.

Okay.

We got enough enemies, boys.

Yeah.

We got enough enemies.

Okay.

We could disagree.

We don't need to be disgusted with each other.

Okay.

There's enough people that hate us

in this sports media world.

Ex-athletes.

There's enough.

With that being said, good luck to all parties.

I don't know how you ended up watching.

That one got real loud, real big.

I came out on Monday and I'll look at my phone.

Holy shit.

Everybody hates each other all the time.

We learned a lot.

Hopefully, we can shake their hands.

Yeah, it didn't sound like it.

None of it.

And then there was a third,

you know, it became a triple threat match on the internet.

Huge on that.

We were pulling.

We're pulling.

It's a street fight.

Yeah, we're pulling for everybody.

Hey, boys, enough people hate us.

Okay.

Enough people hate us.

But also, you got to do what you got to do.

Good luck.

Good luck.

We'll get it.

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He won't.

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Ladies and dumb peter shrager

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what's up man awesome opening segment uh i live in new york city obviously so there's a knicks fan perspective here on all you're saying and like there i was gonna say there's all nothing but respect respect for this pacers team like we watched the first two rounds you guys wiping out those two teams and i just can't wait for the series i grew up in the 90s when it was reggie and starks and anthony mason and you guys had dale davis and antonio davis so like this is a celebration of basketball there's no ill will right now.

And especially as much as you want to make the Halliburton, like Brunson thing, like they're both dogs and they both bring it every game.

Like, I cannot wait for this series, Pat.

Yeah, they have a great rivalry because they know each other very well.

They're friends with each other.

But on the court, both, hey, there can only be one of us here.

And I like that Tyrese has that mindset.

And I love that Jalen Brunson has that mindset.

It's perfect timing and it's great for the NBA.

You guys say you have nothing but respect.

Why'd you guys treat our guy Hans like that?

Why'd you treat a New York firefighter Hans like that, Shrek?

Why'd you do that, Tregs?

You were in that.

I saw Shrek's was in.

Yeah, that was your trash bag, wasn't it?

Messed up.

I love how Hans handled this, first of all.

I appreciate that Tyrese Halliburton is flying him out here to the game.

Saw a lot of people on the internet go, Hans just worked Tyrese Halliburton into some tickets.

Did this on purpose?

Did this entire thing.

I'm like, Hans was an industry plant.

Exactly what they said.

That's what people understand.

That was the only negative is like, Hans worked this entire thing.

I'm like, if it's not like hans wasn't a kid with an accountant or a marketing guy of course hans is a firefighter like a volunteer follow yes of course hans is a firefighter of course

he's a hero yes of course the indiana pacer representative in that entire thing is the hero and uh yeah i'm excited for this and i think it's going to be fantastic i think pacer's in five probably maybe six you know maybe six if the boys you guys are so deep You're so deep.

I watched that Cavs series.

We run.

I know.

It's like 40 Minutes of Hell.

Nolan Richardson and like carlisle such a good coach so you know you you don't know who's gonna kill you it's matherin one time it's nemhart another time like you guys are solid i just feel like this is the next year man okay yeah so put that get up

put the get up uh prediction uh up there so when you're up there you guys have a little pre-production meeting and uh no you go marcus you picking knicks yeah okay bart obviously you're picking the knicks yeah hey alan hahn uh i know who you are are you picking the knicks Works for Mr.

And yeah, works for and then you go, well, I'm king of New York.

I gotta pick the Knicks.

And nobody goes, it's probably not good with how things are going.

Was there ever a thought of that?

Or are you worried about this happening?

Not one person is like, actually, if TJ McConnell gets in the right position at the right time,

there was none of that.

No, it was Knicks, Knicks, Knicks, Knicks.

And I'm like, guys, that's a horrible graphic.

We don't want that out there.

And then again, all right, I'm not going to be the one who's going to back off the Knicks.

I've been supporting the Knicks since I was a kid.

I had a Derek Harper jersey as a kid.

Like, I'm not the one to not do it.

So, if one of those guys wanted to, fine.

But I work in the NFL and I know all too well when you see Chiefs, Chiefs, Chiefs, Chiefs, Chiefs, you're going to get Lambasted when that doesn't work out.

Yeah, the Eagles are going to win by 30 in the Super Bowl.

All right, Shregs, let's talk about the NFL.

League meetings happening today, votes happening tomorrow morning on a lot of things.

Feels like the flag football thing is going to be a yes.

We, Darius Butler, and I both had our kind of skepticism about whether or not the owners were going to let these multiple hundred million dollar players play in an Olympics that could basically just jeopardize an NFL season so they can win a gold medal.

From what we were told, and I assume you know more about this, Jerry Jones was in there saying, we need our best shit out there.

If we're going to showcase this game to the globe, the Olympics is where we need our fucking gas.

So we're going to put our boys into the Olympics.

And allegedly, Roger Goodell was behind it as well for the same exact reason, showcasing the game.

And I mentioned this yesterday, and I think it does need to be stated again.

The NHL at a time didn't allow their players to play in the Olympics.

This is post-lockout.

They were trying to come back.

I, as a hockey fan growing up in Hockey Tan, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, thought it was the dumbest decision of all time.

TJ Yoshi, we all remember him in the shootout, whenever he was going after it.

We all remember watching, obviously heard Brooks go all the way back then.

And even though that was juniors, that was not professional players.

A lot of people that aren't hockey fans are watching the olympics so they should see the best players on earth so maybe they fall in love with the sport of hockey i thought that was a short-sighted decision by the nhl owners they have since changed that thought the nfl was already big enough they weren't going to do that what is your lean what is your thoughts we're hearing one player per team can participate how do you feel this goes and uh america wins by what 3 000

that's the thing i i i've had a really wild 24 hours on this one because i came on get up yesterday and i was like i don't want to see tyreek hill get hurt against latvia like i'm not i'm not looking to like, I don't, I don't need Zay Flowers to get injured against Turks and Caicos, and then we don't have them all season in the NFL.

And I got pushback from people both on the league side and on the players side.

The union and the league both want this.

And I think the owners do as well.

You have to understand the NFL, as far as league initiatives, two major ones are international and flag football.

This marries the two.

It is a bonanza of what this could be as far as expansion and growth goes.

And if you go back to the dream team in 92, they got to Barcelona and yes, they won and they ran over everyone and it was a wonderful celebration and that was that.

But the next generation of players, not only in youth, but also in college and NBA, there was a whole generation that looked to that 92 dream team and what the games brought as far as a global expansion.

That's what they're hoping this could be in 2028 in LA.

I think it passes.

I think it passes today.

I think it is that much of a slam dunk.

And I've had so many people come back to me after my comments yesterday being like, don't be flipping about this.

This matters.

And they're hoping that this can really expand flag football and bring a next generation internationally of football fans saying, hey, I can compete in the Olympics someday.

I might not be able to do it in tackle, but I can do it both men and women's.

As far as the teams go, it is one player per NFL team per country.

But if you're the Eagles,

You might have Jalen Hurts as quarterback of USA.

You might have Jordan Maielata on the team representing Australia as quarterback.

And you have,

who knows what position?

You can play something.

The hope is eventually it's not just going to be American players in the NFL and that this could help lead to a great expansion of international players who grew up saying, I remember watching LA 2028 and my country, you know, we've competed against the U.S.

and I've always thought I can get there myself through flag football.

Yeah.

And also, we got to talk about the academies that have already started in other countries and, you know, football, American football academies, I I think in Germany I think there's one in Denmark I think there's some in Spain I think there's a lot of these countries have these academies and flag football is obviously what they're teaching you know the basics for at the at the lower level and to your point about maybe I can't you know fly around hit somebody maybe I can't afford pads maybe we don't have a uh

production of pads where I come from this sport is potentially something that I can compete in I'm happy to hear that the NFL owners and the players are thinking from a broader sense in this entire thing this is good for the sport well as we continue to try to grow it

you nailed it you can drop a basketball on any pavement in the world and you can get kids playing three on three you could drop a soccer ball or a football in any soccer pitch in the world and you can get that you can't do that with american football tackle football the way it is you need the pads you need the cleats you need the goalposts but you can do flag anywhere and you can drop a flag football and you can play with men, you can play with women, you can play all ages.

And I think the NFL has been really pushing this and they've been pushing hard to get this being a high school sport on the women's side, especially.

Varsity flag football.

I was in a commercial pushing that thing.

Legit, that was like a big narrative.

And I'm like, I love this thought, mostly from a selfish reason.

Like my daughter, I think she's going to, from the way she's running right now, she's got some good wiggle.

Here we go.

I think her flags are going to be tough.

And then you think about if it becomes a state

sport in every single state, a sanctioned sport in every single state.

Then you start thinking about college opportunity.

Like, you know, like i like this i love this i hope it happens i played i played flag on like a college fraternity team and we got run around by like guys who are half our size who just had to play it's a different sport like yes it's a totally different sport and i think there's also this incredible deal where there's like a u.s men's team and the guy's name is like hoosh doucet and they're like no no no no no no the nfl shouldn't get like We're the guys who are the best.

So there should be a CC like who represents and Hoosh.

I love you.

But if Kyler Murray wants to play on the Olympic team, I don't don't think hoosh has a long shelf life i do honestly feel that well he said that he was better than patrick mahomes in flag football because he knows the rose here's his quote you're you're talking about at the end of the day i feel like i'm better than patrick mahomes because of my iq of the game i know he's right now the best in the league i know he's more accurate i know he has all these intangibles but when it comes to flag football I feel like I know more than him.

And I can respect that because it is a different sport.

It is.

And also the moves are different, but just feels like something Patrick probably could learn.

Sure.

Yeah, I think you give him a week or two.

I think he could probably learn the ins and outs of what's probably going to happen.

Lamar Jackson

as a flag football quarterback or any position

is crazy to think.

Tyreek Hill.

Kyler.

Kyler Mur.

Yeah.

I mean, you just start listing off these names.

It's like, who's going to, who's going to, and the move is that dip.

The move is the dip.

It's not real.

Obviously, this is a big one, but the dip move is the one that we saw out of the men's NFL flag football tournament that they had for like a million bucks happening here in Indianapolis.

I think we went and watched it live.

I think they could figure out the dip move, too.

Like, I just, for some reason, I just think the NFL guys could probably figure it out.

Hopefully, we get a chance to watch.

I don't think we're going to have to employ the dip move a whole lot.

I think we're going to be able to tell our guys on the outside, hey, just fucking burn that guy.

And Mahomes or

what is it, like seven Mississippi, five Mississippi?

Something like that.

No, I think that's standard flag.

I think it is pretty quick off the bat because we were watching it yesterday.

The Titans were playing the Steelers on the field on ESPN too.

Not the actual teams, but in like kids representing those areas in the country.

And it's pretty snap to rushes.

Well, that's what I'm saying.

Lamar, though,

Tyler just doing one of these numbers here.

There might be a guy, no offense.

If I say your country right now, I am just saying.

I said Latvia.

I've already been banned from the country forever.

So you go ahead.

Say whatever country you want.

Okay, so there's going to be a Chinese flag football player who might puke from chasing down just one play from the market.

It might fall on his face three times.

There's a chance that that takes place.

That's good for the sport.

I can't wait to watch it.

Congrats on us winning another gold medal.

We need them.

We do.

We need them.

We do.

I don't like this arrogance, Pat.

I don't like that we're talking about the game.

You've never heard me talk about the Olympics.

Put the graphic up.

We got to work.

Hey, we got to at least put the work in.

We can't just show up.

What happens with the U.S.?

We do, but we play play the fucking sport our whole life.

We put the work in.

Yeah.

If America doesn't win this, the haze is

the same with basketball.

I'm moving out of the country.

To where?

Whatever country we lose to?

Whatever we lose.

No, wait, we gotta see what that country is.

Puerto Rico.

Great place.

Still part of America.

I don't know if how that whole thing works.

It's

weird.

Yeah, it's a heavenly.

It's territory.

It's territory.

And I said, because you only need a driver's license to go there.

Sure.

You don't need a passport.

So I don't really know what the rules are.

But I said, I love that America has this relationship with Puerto Rico.

And everybody said, you American asshole.

That's not how I go.

It's like, all right.

I showed my driver's license from Indiana, and they said, I'm good.

They're in the Olympics.

Puerto Rico is?

Yes.

Boom.

Okay, Puerto Rico.

I need Puerto Rico.

If anybody's winning, it's either the United States of America.

If we don't win by 50 every game, I am going to be disgusted.

Could be some tough teams in there.

Canada is not playing.

What do you mean?

I mean, you guys don't have a team, do you?

We won three straight of that other tournament, haven't we?

That was against Debone.

Yeah,

I completely forgot about it.

Would Curtis Rourke as their quarterback?

He's slinging it around out there.

Kid Canada?

Kid Canada, man.

Three years is a long time.

Some of these countries could get a lot better.

Yeah, well, what happens when Kid Canada drops back and Fred Warner was rushing the passer?

Then what?

All right.

I just would like all the NFL guys to know that Shregs is disrespecting them.

Everybody in here is kind of disrespecting them.

Whoa.

I'm the only one that has faith.

And Trent, have you?

You have faith.

Yeah.

What are you trying to do?

Just to be over here.

The Canadian team will be loaded with NFL.

Oh, shut up.

It's four Don's.

How many Dons is it?

We're waiting to see.

I'm loaded with the NFL, brother.

The skill positions are just going to absolutely.

Cage Conada to Mapletron.

That might be

a pretty

deep.

I didn't even think about that.

But who's our DBs?

All of them.

We got Patrick Sertain.

Yeah.

He's one of them.

Locking Don.

And then who's on the other side, probably?

Christian Gonzalez.

Stingley?

Derek Stingley and Patrick.

Okay, good luck, Mapletron.

Okay.

Are you allowed to jam in this thing?

Oh, yeah.

No clue.

Shraig's probably knows the rules.

Shrakes, are we allowed to jam in this thing?

There might be a country that doesn't get off the line.

I think it's like it's quarterback, two wide receivers, a running back, and then you have one offensive lineman, which I would think is Panay Sewell just drilling everybody across the field and just running up and down.

I mean, that's what I would think.

Yeah.

Shraigs, I I don't like the way you talked about my arrogance

because that clearly means you have not watched us during any Olympics.

I'm expecting us to win.

I do.

I'm expecting us to win everything.

A handball.

Handball.

We should win that.

We should win handball.

We still should.

Break dancing.

Speedwalk.

Yeah.

What Australia did to break dancing, you still should be talking about it.

I don't think breakdancing is going to make its way back.

Ray gun.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

You said that on me.

I didn't.

I didn't say any names there, okay?

I don't know if that matters, but he,

let's move along.

We're getting a goal medals.

Two goal medals, especially are women.

I watched those high school girls

Pro Bowl weekend.

Yeah, Brazil's got some dogs.

Mexico as well.

We got beat up.

Diana Flores,

she's the best, and she's Mexico, right?

Yeah.

I mean,

I genuinely think she's.

Yeah, you did.

Mexico has some dogs.

I believe Mexico won the U16 or U18 World Championships last year.

Yeah, but we're talking about the adults here.

We're talking about to say the kids game.

Say that!

That's a word we're talking about.

Good point.

Anyway, so that's two gold medals that I know America's going to get.

Yep.

And I like that.

There's only

one team worried about.

Who?

For men?

Proper name.

Asian Pacific.

Oh, okay.

Team Oose?

What's that?

Toa, Polka.

The Hawaii.

What are you talking about?

That's the United States of America.

It's going to be the same as Puerto Rico as a team, right?

Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, the Hawaii State.

Hawaii is a state territory.

Hawaii State.

Hawaii State.

That's territory of Hawaii State.

Okay, sorry.

It's all right.

You should go to Hawaii.

You ever been?

No, too far.

It might be able to represent some other.

No.

What are we talking about?

Joe Jees are in fucking America.

What are we even talking about?

Team Ooze would be sweet.

Wayland.

Way up.

Way out.

Luca was born in Vegas.

Way out.

Okay.

So I've been to Hawaii.

I've been to Hawaii.

Very lucky to go to Hawaii.

Always dreamt of going to Hawaii as a kid, especially because I watched Pro Bowl back when the Pro Bowl was great.

Sure.

Okay, everybody watched that.

This place seems like a dreamland.

Wife and I go out there.

You get on your maps and you just do a little couple of these, zoom out.

Boy, you're fucking way out there.

In a tiny little, it gets a little nerve-wracking.

You got to zoom back in real quick and be like, where's the land?

That is the perfect place.

Hawaii is the perfect place.

All the islands have their own.

It's amazing, but they're part of us, brother.

Okay.

Jesus.

Deeba, did you not know Hawaii was a state?

What happened?

Yeah, I knew that.

Oh, man.

You're from a military family.

Two of them.

Yeah.

Just because I am a majority Italian, I don't think I could play for the Olympics for Italy.

You could if you got citizenships.

Yeah, especially because you haven't played for an Olympic team yet, right?

In that part of the thing, if you've already been on an Olympic team.

You guys are being very, very.

Didn't Kat play for

Puerto Rico?

Yeah, and plus Tony.

What do you are?

If Tony showers in spaghetti, they just give him a lot of things.

Let's move along.

I don't know if that's how the Italians work.

I don't know.

Shregs might know a little bit more about that.

Anyways, we're winning a gold medal in both flag football things.

And Shregs, I don't want to hear any negativity about any sport.

If it's speedwalking,

the dancing stuff with the thing,

all of them.

We want to win.

Yes.

Hey, I bleed America, Pat.

I'm with you, buddy.

Let's go.

Exactly.

Like that.

That is what we're talking about.

Thank you, Shregs.

Other countries are good.

Well, I still live her.

Well, they're not as good as us.

Yeah, not all of them.

Especially not flag football.

Yeah, exactly.

Jerry Jones said, we want to win by 100, don't we?

We want to fucking hang three triple-digits on these teams.

Who's covered Jamar Chase?

Who's covering Tyreek?

Bingo.

I don't know if Tyreek's going to make the team, though.

I am a little bit worried.

Who's covering Jameer Gibbs?

Bingo.

Oh, my God.

No one.

I mean, there's...

Maybe the Lions have a good year this year, maybe.

I think we're going to lose the Supervisor.

Well, he wants Penn A.

Sewell, guess what?

One player per team.

Jameer Gibbs ain't making a team.

Who's the coach of that team?

Us?

We're not letting that USA football group do this, right?

No, they embarrass the entire country.

I think it should be Dan Cable

with an American flag tank top on the entire time.

Yeah, I like that.

Or Kid Rock.

Yeah, and a cigarette.

Well, Kid Rock's halftime.

Every game.

He could just be.

Graves

D coordinator.

He's definitely American, but MCD.

Grable ain't a coordinator from Texas.

Can I give a suggestion?

Maybe.

Why don't we bring out out of retirement Bruce Arians represents the U.S.

and he's our coach?

I would love that.

I would love Bruce, Ariana.

That'd be pretty good.

Like B8.

What about Tuna?

Bill Parcel's making an appearance wouldn't be bad.

By the way, Penney Alexander.

I don't know if Belichick's going to go.

He loves America, though.

That would be something that Belichick would sort of say.

He's got bigger plans.

By the way, Penne Sewell is...

Congratulations, by the way, we heard.

Maybe.

Penne Sewell's American American.

He's from America Samoa.

I'm not saying it, but allegedly.

What'd you say?

To Debut's point, Penne Sewell was born in America, Samoa.

So I think he's probably be on that team.

Dude, we should have like the Secretary of State be the freaking head.

I don't know know who that is, but I do know that Dane Campbell and Kid Rock are wearing American flag tank tops, and there's a chance that dad is leading the boys.

That's AI.

Yeah, that's AI.

What?

That's AI.

That's not real.

I thought they were preparing.

Does he have MCDC

on his nose?

Gracco, bad 500.

Yeah.

You gotta read.

You gotta read.

Sometimes the hands are screwed up.

Yeah, sometimes

that's America, baby.

We're winning the gold.

You don't think we're winning the gold?

Ball with the ball.

The bang, the bang, diggy, diggy, diggy.

Sit down, boogie, set up jump the boogie every halftime yeah boys are ready to go congrats to us and sucks to be you other countries yeah flag football is ours forever now let's get back to the league meetings flag football's in yes okay uh tone has a question for you about your thoughts on one of the rules potentially being changed.

Yeah, Shrags, I heard you make a good point this morning on the Lions proposal of the

playoffs being seated just by record and not by division winner.

And you brought up the point that not all division record or sorry, division schedules are created equal.

Let's say like for the Steelers, this year they have to play the NFC North.

The Patriots have to play the NFC South.

Those two divisions, those two schedules are not created equal.

So in that case, I believe you brought up last year that the NFC North had to play the AFC South or the NFC South or whatever, and all three NFC South North teams, sorry, made the playoffs.

So in that situation, you think that's why this won't get passed?

Yeah, I think there's enough voices pointing to that saying that all schedules are not created equal.

So the wins are not going to be weighted the same.

And what I said today on GetUp, and I'll say again here, is NFC North, their NFC division opponent last year was the NFC South.

They ran rugshot off.

They beat them all, and then they went to the playoffs, and the Lions, the Packers, and the Vikings all lost in the first round when they played other playoff teams.

Of course, the NFC South was not loaded with playoff teams last year.

They just had one with Tampa Bay.

And that's going to be the case a lot of times.

The other argument is every year, this time of the year, May, a fan or an owner can look to their team and say, we got a one-in-four chance of hosting a playoff game.

When the Lions hosted that playoff game two years ago and Mike Tarico was on the call and the Rams came in and Eminem did the opening, like that's an amazing moment for a city.

The Browns have not hosted a playoff game since 1995.

The Jets since 2003.

The Raiders have been to Oakland and then now Vegas since 2003.

Like to take that away because, well, the Jaguars want an extra game or the Dolphins want an extra game out of division, I just don't think there's enough juice right now and there's enough passionate people within the NFL.

So as much as this was tabled and there's been arguments made that the Vikings got screwed last year, I just don't see it getting passed over the next two days because of the way the schedule makers have the schedule done with the two different divisions and also the fact that the owners like the ability to maybe say we hosted a playoff game every single year they have a chance of doing that.

And also the fact that the playoff ratings are through the roof.

Why would we everything?

Why change?

Yeah, exactly.

So that's that was our original take.

And then there started to be a little, well, if they're on 500 and it went, did they earn it?

And it was like, oh, maybe there is an argument to be made.

And with how loud it's gotten, it's like, well, maybe in the room where it happens in the voting that they are actually considering this, this feels like one of the table for another year.

This feels like this feels like.

I think so.

I would add that week 17 and 18 last year, there were some dogs on the schedule of two teams that weren't relevant or one team that maybe had a playoff spot already secured and they didn't really care about the seating.

This would change that.

This would say, hey, you need to be finishing in the top three for wins if you want one of those home games.

And that would keep everyone competitive to week 18.

But I don't know if there's enough energy in the room to make that happen.

In the room where it happened.

I want to be in the room where it happened.

Hamilton.

Super cultured.

Look at us.

Look at us.

No big deal.

Broadway.

Yeah.

I love Broadway, actually.

I don't mind those live shows.

Oh, yeah.

Lion King.

Yeah.

Wife and I, if we're ever in New York, we'll go.

We will go to as many as we possibly can.

I love the weird microphone things on the foreheads, too, because they change costumes and it's like kind of sticking down.

And every once in a while, you can see who's the big sweater, who's not a sweater, because that thing's thing's popping straight out through their hair still picking up their voices though somehow perfectly what was the last show you saw oh I think it was uh

Jay Suddh was doing um

what's that Robin Williams Doug Dead Poet Poet Society Dead Poets Society was off Broadway.

Jay Sudd was doing Dead Poets Society in a small little theater.

Jay Sudd at one point was next to us in the stands, in the stairs, while doing it.

Got a chance to meet him afterwards.

Said, wow, he did incredible.

I just like watching people do their shit, whatever their shit is.

It's the best in the world.

The best in the world are doing it every night, and they do it eight times a week.

So they do the matinee performance also.

Like, I'm always amazed.

I live in New York.

We try to go, but the Tony's are June 2nd.

Like, Pat, I want to go to the Tony's.

Forget the sports that means.

Who does that?

You know what?

Doogie Hauser?

He does that, right?

He has like several times in the past.

I don't know if he is this year, but yeah.

No, Patrick.

It's good.

That's his name, right?

Yeah, he's Doogie Hauser.

One of his greatest characters.

What are you talking about?

yeah yeah it started with the the typing right that's it that's how i yeah he's talent that guy's real talented

i just like watching people do their shit personally that's just it if they work their ass off they have to perform in front of people especially whenever you're in there it's like i could see every slip up that you have i can see every voice crack that you have and you talk about them doing it like eight times a week or whatever it's like three shows a day sometimes back to back to back i think we talked to coop coop did this he did a run in london in london and it was like eight shows a week or something.

Yeah, and he just like absolutely crushed it.

It's like, I don't know how you're.

I just saw Glenn Gary, Glenn Raw, which is a famous one.

And this is the cast.

If you want to just know who you get.

Poffies for Grillier.

Bill Burr.

Who?

Bill Burr.

Bill Burr.

Kieran Culkin.

Okay.

From Succession.

Frank.

Big Bill.

And then you had

Michael McKeon, who you would know.

He's in like final tech and all sorts of things.

And then Brodenkirk, who is better called Saul, the four of them.

Oh, just an unbelievable show.

And I saw it, like, my wife and I was like, Do you want to go see it?

Like, you just see that on any given random night.

That's Broadway.

It's amazing.

Yeah, that's why everybody hates the Knicks.

Yeah,

that's why everybody likes the Pacers.

Okay.

We don't have Bill Burr staying up there with Kieran and the boys every single night.

Okay.

That's not an opportunity.

We got Caitlin Clark, though, breaking records.

You know, Doc.

Pretty good.

Very good.

Very good.

We got one Applebee.

Pacers in six.

Applebees.

Yeah.

We got Top Call fucking.

Yeah, we do got good Applebee's.

I think that any chain you want.

Yeah.

So I love Indianapolis.

Great city.

Great city.

Great place.

Great city.

If you haven't been, come.

Come on, Don.

It's an awesome city.

Easy to get to, great downtown, walkable.

And

I go to the Combine every year.

I look forward to it.

It's great.

Well, the Combine is a whole different animal.

Everybody's here.

That's like your, I mean.

That's heading in the draft season.

I mean, that is.

Indy 500.

Traig is getting, yeah.

Different animals.

You need to come to the Indy 500 at least once in your life.

I don't think you need to go a bunch of times unless you fall in love with it, but you need to at least do it one time as you experience.

Sold out this weekend.

It's easy to fall in love with it.

Bing throwing that out.

Just to begin.

I looked at flights because I got no plans.

Memorial Day.

The Knicks playing the pace.

I looked at flights.

I was going to take my son.

Like, you can't get a hotel room or a flight to Indy this weekend.

It is between Indy 500 and the Knicks, like, it is New York to Indy, no chance.

That's right.

We don't want you over here anyway.

Yeah, exactly.

I know.

We want Hawes.

We need Haunts.

We want New York firefighters.

Yeah.

We want heroes coming here.

That's right.

Strange, it would be nice to have you out here, though.

Anytime you want to come, we can find you a hotel room, by the way.

I think we know a couple people.

You can stay with Connor, too.

Yeah, I can stay at Gumpy's house.

Which does suck.

So he's not going to be here.

Perfect.

You can stay at home.

You can use my apartment if you want, Pete.

He's got a penthouse, too.

He's got a...

Connor's living like a king of Indianapolis.

Yeah.

And Gumpy, too.

Gumpy's got a five TV setup in his living room.

I don't know if you guys have seen that.

You guys dialed that up this week.

Phenomenal.

I faced time with Gumpy last night.

He's like, look at this setup I got, pal.

And he just turns and it's just five TVs across the wall.

I'm like, Holy shit, tell me you're betting on too many sports without telling me you're betting on too many sports.

You can stay there, you and the boy can watch literally everything.

All right, last rule change that's potentially coming.

This one's confused me a bit, so maybe you'll be able to explain it better.

Go ahead, Ty.

Yeah, Shrace, can we just get some clarity on the new on-side kickoff rules?

What they can now declare at any time when they're down, they're moving it up a yard because only 6% of the on-side kick attempts were recovered.

What's going on with this and how much should we expect this to actually change?

We vacillate as a league, and I say we because it's the media in addition, because you want to make it safe for the kickoffs, but you also don't want to eliminate special teams.

And obviously it's close to this show's heart how important special teams is.

The onside kick became a nearly impossible thing to convert last year.

So this modification, which is being presented, would make it potentially a little easier to recover on-side kicks for the kicking team.

And yet, I think you're now constricting the field in a way that it's changing things again.

I'm not sure it's going to pass if that modification is going to be presented in the room.

It just feels weird.

So, you see how the kicking team is one yard off the line there?

They're going to move them up to the line.

So, you see, they're one yard off, one yard off, one yard off.

They're going to now be allowed to move all the way up to the line where the ball is being kicked from.

I think they should let back foot be on line.

So, you get two extra yards there.

So, then it's only a nine-yard kind of run-up up there i i i hate it all you know for the on-side kick

because i appreciate the fact that they wanted more returns i appreciated the hybrid dynamic kickoff i appreciated all that but the on-site kick uh was such a special play yeah and the nfl will say we'll sacrifice the on-site kick so that we get maybe a thousand more kickoff returns uh throughout the rest of the year.

We get a little bit more explosion.

Their angle is that they're trying to save special teams and try to save the kickoff.

Feels like the on-site kick might be impossible to save.

Feels like this one might be might be over.

But you can always get lucky.

It could be.

And you can always be in it.

And

shout to Chuck Bagano kind of letting me do surprise on-side kicks basically whenever I wanted.

So those were

good.

Those were good times.

Those were fun times.

I mean, those were, I felt like I was really a part of the game.

You know, I was like, all right, not only do I just come out here.

You were.

Yeah, it's huge momentum.

Yeah, definitely.

It was a pick.

It was a turtle.

It was a weapon, dude.

Yeah, it was.

It was.

It was cool feeling too knowing like oh

if i check this is that common like would a coach would a coach give a green light to the kicker like that is that common or is that just like a very chuck thing that like hey i trust you and like you're my guy i had to prove it in practice so i knew like every practice rep was like more important almost than the one in the game chuck needed to see with his eyes the ball go into somebody's hands on our team and then he needed to see this he needed to see everything work needed to see it in practice which i think a lot of these kickers and i don't want to blame kickers because kickers have a hard enough job and nobody really gives them respect, but I think kickers stopped working on on-site kicks as well.

As soon as the percentages get this low, it's like, well, it's just a hit and hope anyways.

Everybody puts the ball sideways.

They just kind of try to spin it and do it.

Like I used to work on on-site kicks.

I wanted that ball to be real hot.

I wanted that thing to be a jump ball.

But to work on that, I'm jamming my big toe into the top of a football.

And then I'm also ripping my hip basically.

So for kickers just to sign up to do that with less than 5% chance of it being recovered, like I don't think guys were working on on-site kicks.

Everything just became like a very,

very blatant.

Dude, this is fascinating to me because you also have a budget of your time.

You're going to be punting.

Reps.

How much am I going to be doing that?

Yeah, you're right.

You got to budget your reps.

You got to budget your time.

And also, it hurts.

Like the high-hop thing hurts.

Like, that's not a fun thing.

You're jamming your toe into the top of it.

But if you can get that thing to...

Boy, that's scary.

Yeah, because on the Hands team on the other side, they're standing like this.

And it's like, okay, now there's at least a second guess.

They can get it.

Haven't seen a good high-hop in a long time.

Have not seen like a great high-hop out of anybody in a long time.

Janakowski, back in Oakland, we were playing on that baseball field.

He used to take the ball off the dirt, and that thing was just like,

it was unbelievable.

Because he's that lefty, too, and the way he wouldn't even take steps, just like back up and do his thing.

That fucker would go through.

Crosby had a good high-hop.

I think I had a good high hop.

What was the guy in Seattle who had it in the NFC championship game?

Ryan, John Ryan, was that him?

Or was it a kicker?

Haushka?

Yeah, it might have been Steve.

Might have been Haushka.

Yeah, it might have been Hauska.

Canadian.

Vinatari had a great high-hop.

He's Canadian?

Hauska?

I talked Hauska.

Maybe Ryan worked at Hauska.

One of them was.

Ryan.

Ryan might have been.

Boston's behind him.

Worst feeling in the world as that hands guy.

I did it in college.

Went up high.

I had to jump.

My highest, fully exposed.

You know, somebody touched you, get flipped against Pittsburgh Panthers actually in college.

Flip, landed right on my head, knocked out.

Told myself never again would I be that guy.

Coach McMahon Midge asked me in the league.

I think Reggie was hurt maybe, maybe the year he tricep or ACL.

He asked me to be the guy.

I was like, coach, I'm going to be honest with you.

I don't want to put the team in this position.

I will not put myself out there for that.

Do it.

So, and to your point, too, most kickers, when that time comes, we know as a return, as a hands team, they only have one kick in their bag that that coach is going to trust me.

You can go through the tape.

They probably only kick three on side kicks in there, so you know it's going to be a high-hop, it's going to be a spinner.

So you had the middle dribbler and all the different options.

So that's a headache for like a special teams unit to have to prepare for.

I didn't have the high-hop left.

I can never get it.

Could never get it.

Just kicking it right out of bounds.

It's like, I don't think this one's in the bag, brother.

I don't think this is it.

Okay, we need one last question before we have to get out of here.

D-Butt has a question about a very active offseason, seemingly, for John Lynch.

Yeah, passing a bunch of money.

Brock Purdy got paid, and now Fred Warner got a huge deal, making him the highest paid linebacker in NFL history.

Any other deals that we can expect around the league and what went into this deal, and this ton of guaranteed money you got?

Well, I wouldn't say what's coming next.

I'll just tell you this: the 49ers, the last few offseasons, have been dealing with crap with contracts going all the way up into the start of training camp.

And this was a priority for them this offseason to get this done before they got to training camp.

And it was Purdy, it was Kittle, and it was Warner.

They checked all three boxes off.

The Purdy one came about in a great way because this was starting really in Santa Clara in a conversation.

Then at the Combine in Indianapolis at St.

Elmo's, John Lynch, Parag Marathi, and Brian Hampton met with Kyle Strong and Purdy's agent, and that got the ball rolling.

The big difference was they got a no trade clause in for Purdy, which the Niners had never given before.

Purdy got a great deal.

And then Fred Warner was the icing on the cake.

We knew Frederico Warner wasn't going anywhere.

They get them all done.

No drama.

They have their three cornerstone pillar leaders in the locker room and they can go and move forward into this summer and try to forget last year which was just a lost season in san francisco i'll say this as a guy that got a chance to maybe have a beer with george kittle at wrestlemania he looks unbelievable

not that he does not that he never does but he looks unbelievable jocked so jacked like so so jacked vibes so high around his crew too all

they assume i think that was right before that deal got announced so he probably knew what was around the corner congrats all of them they've earned it congrats to the 49ers this year seemingly much more positive offseason as opposed to a negative one maybe Maybe they'll be back.

Is Christian McCaffrey going to play?

Big trip.

We hope so.

Yes, Trenton.

Hope so.

That's a good question.

What's going on?

All of these guys,

they're keeping an eye on all of it.

They just wanted to get their guys in and know that this will not be contract talk.

So hopefully all these guys will be healthy playing and on the field.

Come fall.

That's awesome.

Shranks, we can't wait to watch you cover the Olympics as the Americans dominate every sport.

Okay, don't ever forget it.

I'm sorry.

I just, yeah.

I appreciate you.

I love having me on.

And I will tell you this, I will never again doubt the Americans when it comes to those five rings in the Olympic Games.

On this show.

On this show.

Everywhere else you can tell your real feelings.

Here, we need a little, oh, we're going to do it.

You're the man.

Laser gentleman.

Six and six.

You can't get a hotel in Indiana.

All right.

See you.

Drake's the best.

I'm about done with all the text messages from every human that's from New York letting me know that the Pacers are going to lose to them, though.

Sure.

Walk them.

That's what I did.

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Hour search starts right now.

We're lucky to have a great hour two ahead of us.

Because it's not just me, you know, obviously the talk stables here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt.

Con man, I saw the Patriots are favored in 11 of their 17 games.

Yeah, pretty sweet.

I mean, how's that happen?

I think we know how that happens.

His name's Mike Vrabel, and his name is Drake May.

I think we all can understand what is coming for the NFL this year.

But yeah, wonderful day.

I mean, I had the greatest morning of my life this morning.

So basically, nothing can knock me down.

And you adding the fact that the Patriots are favored in 11 to 17, just that's that's just a cherry on top.

I heard you had a lot of fun this morning.

That's good news.

No, I didn't have a lot of fun.

A lot of fun this morning would be a

nice plate of flapjacks, you know, with some syrup, maybe.

That'd be a lot of fun.

What I had this morning was my fucking world rocked, brother.

Okay.

Okay, I'm sorry.

I basically went to an ACTC concert.

We could say that.

They're on tour right now.

They're on tour right now.

I think Metallica played at Virginia Tech 2.

I saw.

that place.

Earthquake, registered earthquake.

Yeah, that would have been awesome to be there.

You know, I'm not like signing up for a Metallica concert.

I do like Metallica, but not signing up for a Metallica concert.

Not a big concert guy myself.

Love music.

Don't love the whole, all the shenanigans.

Sure.

Getting in, doing it.

Getting out, going home.

There's a two-year-old, a lot of jobs.

Traffic.

All that shit.

Getting in, getting out.

Yeah, that's what I'm referring to.

I'm referring to sitting in a parking lot.

I'm even just talking walking.

All the parking lots.

Yes, sweating.

We're doing the whole thing.

Like, I love the idea of concerts.

I don't personally love going to a lot of concerts.

With that being said, that one, I wish I would have been at.

That felt like a cool moment there.

Tony Robbins, I saw on his Instagram, he was at ACDC the other night.

Wow.

He was doing the fake clap, the thunderstruck.

I mean,

it was incredible.

Sand in my boots.

Dude, that festival.

See, we should have been there.

That feels like one that we were certainly invited to and certainly should have went to.

Getting out of that one, though, I saw a lot of.

That's the thing.

Yeah, you need a copter or a boat to get out of the Jennifer.

That's when you're just coming in.

You can just hang out with Wiz and Chevy Woods and Will and the boys.

Yeah, and you just float your fucking ass out of there.

Exactly.

It feels like that is something that happens anytime Wiz is around.

But I'm happy to hear you had a great morning of fun.

One half of the Hammerman.

It wasn't fun, man.

My life changed forever.

One half of the Hammer.

Die.

Cowboys, A.P.

Tone is here.

Nine-year NFL fans.

Is that fun?

Huh?

Life changing forever.

Does that sound fun?

Yeah.

It doesn't sound not fun.

That sounds glorious.

It sounds biblical.

Okay.

It's not fun.

So you had a biblical fun morning.

No, you can't describe it as fun.

It was fun.

Describing it as fun is like, what am I?

Two years old on a shitty baseball team?

Biblical doesn't seem fun.

You know?

Biblical means epic.

I always take biblical as something bad happened.

Biblical is like

legendary,

something I'll remember forever, something I'll tell my grandkids about it something that's something that is fun no that it's not fun man you went on a ride this morning not in your nfl veteran state butler this evening but lips looking better today yeah one day better

good ice pack this morning yeah smaller just as more compact he did walk into this office floating this morning exactly wasn't he he came in screaming he really was yeah screaming from the moment he entered the door through the locker room all the way down the court into the think tank, you could hear Connor.

Connor was radiating.

Yeah.

And then Gumpy behind him, oh, buddy.

You know, he's doing his thing with his little flip-floppies flopping around.

And then Zito comes running in.

The boys represented this morning.

They certainly did.

Now, let's go to an attic in Ohio.

Ladies and gentlemen, college football, national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner.

Ladies and gentlemen, A.J.

Hawk is here.

A.J.

Hawker, Connor had quite a fun morning.

Okay, I think that's...

More than fun, man.

You can't describe it as fun.

If you describe it as fun, it sounds like it was a Mickey Mouse morning.

No offense.

It wasn't a Mickey Mouse morning, AJ.

Do you want to know what he's all jacked up about, AJ?

Yeah, I would love to.

I think a lot of people would love to know what the how he is describing it, I think, has a lot of people confused.

We have some breaking news.

Bronnett, two, one, at you.

Good transition, Tom.

What?

Tom Cruise is on the show tomorrow.

Tom Cruise is on

the show

tomorrow.

Obviously, Final Reckoning is in theaters on Thursday.

Everybody is going to go to this movie.

It is two hours and 50 minutes, I believe, of non-stop right hook, left hook, right hook, left hook.

And Connor, Gumpy, and Zito got a chance to screen it this morning at 7.30 a.m.

Because it is a three-hour run time.

And they showed up with the juice.

I believe Connor cut a promo after the screening to some movie site that might get used somewhere.

Connor was floating in here this morning.

It was the ride of a lifetime, is how you describe it.

Yeah, one of the greatest movies I've ever seen.

And that is not hyperbole.

I've watched Mission Impossible since the inception, since the first one came out.

I've watched all of them.

I've seen them all multiple times.

Last night I watched Reckoning Part One, and then Final Reckoning was today.

And let me just say, I mean, there's nothing you can prepare for, okay, right off the bat.

I won't go into it.

Yeah, no spoilers.

No spoilers.

I thought myself, I'm so jacked up to talk about the the movie.

That's why I gave a 10-minute interview after to the guy who already seen it four times, may I add.

He still sat through the entire thing with us because he was so juiced to watch it again.

I can't wait to see it again.

It truly is the perfect movie, start to finish.

I think that's the only real way to describe it.

7.30 a.m.

You're watching this thing.

And I was up at five because I couldn't wait to see it.

That's got to be the earliest anybody has seen this movie in a day.

And I'll tell you what, from what it sounds like, it is the perfect way to start your morning.

I want to watch it tomorrow morning at 7.30.

So I don't know if that guy wants to watch it for his fifth time, my second, but I would go.

I would go tonight.

I'd see it twice in one day if it was possible.

It was that good of a movie.

And I just, I just, my heart goes out to TC for everything he's done for us.

Shout out to Paramount, obviously giving us the opportunity to screen that beforehand.

I got, you know, a family and also home from Rawley.

I was not able to make it this morning.

The boys represented in AJ.

I cannot wait to talk to Tom Cruise.

That'll be on tomorrow, 12.30 Eastern.

AJ Hawk, Tom Cruise joining the program.

Yeah, that doesn't, I mean, when you say it out loud, it doesn't feel real.

I mean, how since, I guess probably since the first time I joined you when I was a guest on your program back in the day, I think I mentioned Tom Cruise, probably my very first ever appearance with you.

So, yeah, what a weird, strange trip this whole situation is, huh?

Yeah, it certainly is.

We had a meeting with the Paramount folks, you know, to set up the screener and everything like that.

And shout out to Faso.

Shout out to Faso, kind of navigating the waters waters here, piecing the things together.

You know, Faso kind of piecing things together.

What we heard is that Tom Cruise has definitely heard us talk about Tom Cruise is what we heard.

So there was a whole moment in the middle of this call where I just stopped everything.

I go, so Tom Cruise knows the program.

And they go, oh, yeah, he has seen a lot of your stuff.

And I go, oh,

let's just take a moment here.

And then Ty's in the back, yes,

yeah, like screaming in the back.

Yeah, it's going to be.

Man.

Yeah, I'm excited.

I am very excited.

Ty, I know you're zeke up.

You got a little zipper burn there whenever it all.

It's hard not to.

I mean, I've been living and dying with TC since I can remember, to be honest.

I mean, we can go back to Taps, you know, which came out like nine years before I was born.

I think I've seen every single movie in TC's catalog multiple times.

And I mean, we're going to get to talk to the guy.

I think we should maybe clip you talking about Tom Cruise just all the time that you have, because it's always the same exact thing.

TC did it again.

Yeah,

CC did it again.

And then every clip we see from the promotional run of all the shit that he's doing, he's like, this guy's 60 years old.

He is, he's a madman.

He is a complete psychopath.

Will do anything for the masses' entertainment.

And like Con, I mean, he never loses.

He never fails.

Every single time.

And he just keeps pushing the envelope.

$12 billion at the box office.

That's pretty good.

12 billion.

Largest non-Marvel character all time.

Box office 12 I just started doing my research on it I'm like I can't believe what you're gonna talk to this guy I should show some respect let me do some research on this that's gonna be 13 by the way probably more

I mean I just mean in the next month this one's good huh it is it's so you mentioned all like the footage like even that little sneak peek there it doesn't even encapsulate what this movie's about it's way more than that Well, shout out to Tom Cruise joining the program.

WTC.

WTC.

He's probably seeing this.

They said he does know the program.

I'm excited for him to experience our show, too.

Yeah, I'm excited for how that's going to go.

I think it's pretty normal, probably.

I mean, the dude's been, he's been the biggest star for the past four decades, right?

I mean, if he's 60 years old, I would assume he's been acting before he was 20.

He was in some of those old school movies.

Yeah, like the longevity is unheard of with what this guy does.

So there's been a lot of talk about him chit-chatting with the movie theater employees and like thanking them for what they do and then diving into the convo about, you know, popcorn, how much they like popcorn.

he needs two big things of popcorn when he's at the movies i think he literally just wants to promote the movie industry like everything about him is just movies we need to promote the movie theaters and then the way he eats popcorn it's a man that's comfortable around a bag of popcorn yeah exactly is comfortable with popcorn i mean there's there's hang time on the kernels

yeah actually that's fine the popcorn what's his entire diet you said did did debut i just want to see the video.

If you question if Tom Cruise is eating popcorn again, look at his.

You can clearly see the popcorn.

Boom.

Boom.

Boom.

It's in his cheek right there.

Boom.

Two of them.

Maybe three in there.

We don't know.

Sleight of hand.

There's a ton in there.

His mouth is fucked up.

That guy right next to him is going, James,

this guy's playing catch with popcorn with himself.

There's no cool rule.

His mouth is fucked up.

I promise you.

I can't believe you just said that.

Just ask.

Me and you are about to ask Ryan Clark RG3 this shit.

No.

You keep talking junk about TT.

I'll go there.

We told him, well, there was a third party to jump in there, too.

That would probably be tie-eye, too.

We don't need that.

Boys, put swords down.

There's enough enemies already.

There's enough enemies already, boys.

Go see Michigan possible together.

Yeah.

Seems like Tom Cruise would be able to make it.

Exactly.

Squash all beasts.

That would end all wars.

I can't believe D.

Butts did that.

I did not see a single,

to D-Butts' credit.

He is great at greatest act, maybe greatest actor of all time.

Did you see any popcorn actually go into the mouth or is he just

let's watch this?

He's suit something already.

Have you guys never seen an alpha eat popcorn?

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

I guess that's what I've never seen a human.

Sorry, you've never seen the biggest star on the planet eat popcorn before.

Yeah, it doesn't look like us marks eating it.

Okay, it looks a little different.

Fair point.

I wonder how deep he gets sometimes.

Do you think he stops like...

Sometimes it hits his stomach.

You know what I'm saying?

do you think he always does the full, like, full throw, or do you think sometimes he plays with?

Oh, I think sometimes he tosses like three or four up.

He's like,

gets them all.

DC football.

Yeah.

NBA conference finals start tonight.

Just can't wait to watch.

Who cares at this point?

We got Tom Cruise on the show.

Yeah,

should we watch some highlights like Top Gun or something?

Should we run that clip one more time just to make sure it is real?

Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news.

It's running form gets out of the block so quick

in the combo.

Oh, yeah, that pencil died, by the way.

Oh, old school.

It's a mask I wore for Halloween.

Yours was much worse.

I know, not TC.

Oh my god.

That was crazy.

I just can't hold it.

Actually, hanging from points.

Jeez, it's real.

Yeah.

Soak it in, boys.

When did he start doing that type of shit?

I like the stunts.

Pretty much like

the first Mission Impossible, I'd say.

He probably did it before that, but like Mission Impossible 2, there's like it opens like with a massive, massive like mountain.

And

TC scaling that thing by himself with no ropes or anything.

Alec Connell type stuff?

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, free solo in this bitch.

He caught Alec out of climb.

I would assume he and Alec are able to have conversations that us people with emotion feelings, you know, fear of, I guess, because we watched that Alec Connell thing and I was, my palms are getting sweaty watching a documentary that was filmed years ago in thousands of miles away from where I was sitting.

But you watch his, you watch his, like, everything that hits the internet for his promotion.

I get nervous for him.

It's every single scene.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Every single scene, there's something bananas.

And he's doing it all.

Yes.

He's flying the helicopter.

He's flying the plane.

We showed it last year like a hundred times.

Like the big set piece from the first movie was when he rides the motorcycle off the mountain and then parachutes.

And they were like, Tom's done this like 11 times today.

He's going to do it like nine more times, probably.

He's just, I mean, he's just a thrill seeker.

He's a junkie.

He loves it.

We watched it, you know, the other thing, too, and he's like...

I'll see you at the movies.

He's piloted in the plane and then just goes into a nosedive right after that.

I mean, like,

he's a helicopter pilot.

He flies planes.

He base jumps.

He does this type of shit.

Like, Like he just.

He saves the world.

He does.

He saved the business.

That's Ethan Honda.

And that's that's another thing.

Like that's why you say like, oh, this guy, like, all he cares about is the movies.

Like, he legitimately, Steven Spielberg said it is like, without Tom Cruise, like, people aren't going to watch movies in movie theaters anymore.

Like, COVID would have killed the entire industry.

And he legitimately

saved the industry.

See you at the movies is how he ends everything.

Yes.

He like wants that to still forever be a thing.

I feel like he thinks that is like a part of his duty almost as the biggest movie star on earth.

And I think this popcorn thing he's doing right now is like,

I'll see you at the movies.

And also,

let's buy some popcorn.

Yeah, this isn't right now.

He's always done this.

He's always loved popcorn.

No, I know.

That's what I'm saying, though.

I feel like that's always been his thing.

Like, hey, do the movies.

What if he's not?

What if he's faking the popcorn?

He's buying that popcorn.

That'd be even better.

I would be even more fun.

He's faking it.

He's a good actor.

I'm an astronomer.

Great actor.

Yes, he is.

I'm the conspiracy guy.

Okay.

Yeah, but you just, you're fresh off an Ethan Hunt.

Ride of a lifetime.

Yeah.

You know why we're saying fun so much to him?

You know why we're saying fun?

Because Paul Skeens posted on his Instagram story that it was fun to watch the movie early.

And Connor says, I hate Paul Skeens.

If I want to say something was fun, I wouldn't say it was Mission Impossible Final Reckoning.

Fun.

It was a ride of a lifetime.

It was right hook, left hook, right hook, left hook.

What's fun about a thrill of a lifetime?

It was like, that would be considered fun.

No, not enough.

Paul needs to say more, is what you said about Paul Skippy.

That's verbatim.

And I know I'm not sure if he's the one posting all of his stuff, but no matter what.

Like, you don't describe in Final Reckoning as fun.

Okay.

That's just, that's not.

But it is fun.

It is way more than that.

You know, you're not going to describe something that changes lives in the futures of my life specifically as fun.

Okay.

It is something that is almost undescribable.

The only thing I could probably compare it to is like ayahuasca.

I assume that ceremony of Mother Aya is very similar to

what Final Right.

Exactly.

Because you can't describe something that changes.

A life-changing event, man.

That's what you're saying.

Here's Paul Steins.

I had an opportunity to watch this last week.

Wow, that was a lot of fun.

Huge compliment.

I kind of get it, Conman.

I kind of get it.

I do.

I understand where you're coming from.

what's everybody's deal that i feel like it kind of knocks it down like this is not a in to be honest when we

with

i'm sorry you it did change connor's life it looks like i can't wait to see what connor does for when we walk out and pop on maverick all of us as a group if some like if bone would have said man that was fun i would have punched him right there because we were all like reinvigorated afterwards yeah it's all relative though you gotta consider it from paul skeens a guy who for him to describe something as fun that basically is a transcendental life changer anyone's gonna be a fire pilot understands the entire thing.

And also, his life right now, not a lot of fun.

No, not fun at all.

You know, he won run, he gives up, and they lose.

Yeah.

That's supposed to be a legacy day.

So he had a moment of happiness with Mission Impossible Follow.

They should have said that.

That would have been better.

Buried his team.

I had a moment of happiness in my life.

His team doesn't give a shit.

They don't even have a manager or an owner.

They don't care.

If he said happiness, that'd be a whole different story.

He watched this after this, and he was like, God, saved his life.

That was fun.

No, he said last week, see, look, I'm on the skiing.

I know what Skians is bringing to the table.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is not Tom Cruise.

That'll be tomorrow.

The NBA's version of Tom Cruise.

Ladies and gentlemen, co-host of the Knuckleheads podcast, Quentin Richardson.

Kud, sorry, we got a little carried away there.

You had to watch all that.

We got Tom Cruise on the show tomorrow.

It's absurd.

Hey, fellas, I appreciate you inviting me here.

I'm salty that I missed the invite to the 730.

I'd have been there bush hide in Brightfield ready to go.

I'm a Mission Impossible huge fan.

I can't believe it.

Nah, I said,

yeah, you chose not to go.

Right?

Wow.

We texted him.

No way, no how.

I can't believe that.

I'm over there.

I'm feeling Connor's energy through the Zoom.

I was there.

That's fun.

That's fun stuff.

No, see, that's why he's feeling my energy because I'm not sitting here like, oh, I had a really fun time at Mission Impossible this morning.

No,

that wouldn't translate to Q Rich all the way over in his own little Orlando.

Being like, oh my God, I got to go see this movie now because I'm not sitting here like Paul Skeeting saying it was fun.

Okay, Q Rich, I'm kind of disgusted that Foss didn't invite you to this.

Next time, this app.

Next time we have to...

Maybe.

I agree.

Jimmy Petaro is giving a speech.

He needs to think about what Foss did to Q Rich in this entire situation, especially with TC online tomorrow.

I mean, that's a big deal.

Let's go to tonight, though.

Please.

It's hard to not talk about talking to this.

What's your favorite vision of possible, Q Rich?

Yeah,

that's a

uh man it's it's it's it's it's hard to pick one man i remember

it's hard it's like all of them all of them give you something and you gotta you got some you got a special feeling about each one of them man i can i man all of them are fire to me i just know that i've been watching i'm like kind of i've been watching since inception and i'm disappointed i wasn't invited to the 730 this morning but i will be seeing it when it comes out i'm gonna be i'll see tom cruise at the theaters as he said

Thursday.

Thursday, it's coming out.

Okay, let's talk about tonight.

Conference finals start tonight.

Obviously, the West will lead things off here.

Timberwolves, Thunder, Ant, SGA.

Obviously, a big part of the conversation is the next generation of superstars is now representing the NBA in the conference finals.

How should we be viewing tonight's game?

How should we be viewing everything that's going to happen in this particular series?

I mean, I can see why everybody's saying these two guys can potentially be the face of the league and all of that stuff.

And this series is going to be big.

For me,

I like OKC to win this series.

I think it should be a six or seven game series, highly competitive.

And I wouldn't be surprised, though,

if Julius Randall can continue to show up how he's been showing up and also Rudy Gobert.

I wouldn't be surprised if Minnesota could go ahead and push them.

But what things are as they are.

OKC opening up at home.

I don't know if people have been paying attention.

That's the loudest building in the arena.

This playoffs, that building gets nuts.

And

I've seen Indiana.

I know what they bring.

I've watched New York.

I know how they bring it.

But I feel like that OKC crowd is the closest thing to a college crowd that we got in the league.

Bingo, that's kind of how I've been describing it.

It feels like a college atmosphere.

Team feels like a college team, too, like a young team, obviously very together.

Ant-Man has enough to will the Timberwolves to six, seven-game series.

That's why you think it's going to be seven games?

Do you think it's just his will, or how do you feel about matchups here whenever you you talk about the two styles of play?

I think he's that special.

And I think if at 23 years old, man, if he could do this, he's beating a lot of people to even getting a chance to get to the finals.

I don't know the names off the top, but I know if he could get there right now, he ain't got no choice about that whole face of the league.

He's going to at least be one of them.

If it's multiple or whatever, because some people say it's more than one right now, and if that's what it's going to be, he's definitely going to be one of them.

If he does this right here and gets these guys to the finals,

nobody expected expected that, but those guys in Minnesota, possibly.

Diet, AJ.

Yeah, Q-Rich, with SGA, if you were Minnesota, I guess, what would your game plan be to try to at least limit what this guy could do?

He seems like he's everywhere, makes everybody's kind of shot.

Really kind of the facilitator.

What would you do defensively to try to slow him down?

Man, you got to do, you got to send different looks at him.

Sometimes you got to double him.

You got to send different coverages and do things to try to make him uncomfortable.

Because, I mean, one thing about SGA, he's proven.

He's going to get 20 to 30 points no matter who he's playing against, no matter what the matchup's been.

He's done it so many times during the season and also in these playoffs.

And I mean, right now,

he's going against some young guys as well.

It's not like he's playing against some super veterans that outnumber him in experience and things like that.

So I look for SGA to have a good, good series.

I think, obviously, it's going to be the battle of him and Ant Edwards.

I need those

support guys to come through.

And I look at what SGA has in support.

He has more.

He has more depth.

He has more guys that do more than actually than the Ant-Man does.

On that note, D-Bot has a question.

Yeah, you kind of answered it with, I was going to ask you who had the better supporting cast, but with the supporting cast and those role players, what's the difference playing on the road and then playing at home going into these type of games?

I think it depends, man.

It depends on the group of guys you got.

I've been on teams where obviously guys play great at home and

play better than they do on the road, but I've also been on teams where we play better on the road.

We feel better at banding together and going against the hostility so i think it just depends on a group of guys you got and i think that shows itself you know throughout the time of the season and throughout these playoffs they they know who they are and they know where guys play better at and i i think it just depends on you know the group of guys you got okay let's go to the east now

Pacers in five, maybe Pacers in six.

Not only people on ESPN saying that.

Yeah, I know you were a Nick there for a while and you're probably loving the vibes coming out of New York City for the Knicks, which I am as well.

Anytime you see an entire city come alive because of sports, it's a beautiful thing.

I was over there in New York whenever they, uh, Jalen Brunson hit the three to seal the last series, the entire city was alive.

Obviously, they seal their

beating the Boston Celtics, place goes crazy.

Like, that is a beautiful thing for sports.

That is a beautiful thing for New York City.

That is a beautiful thing for anything and anywhere whenever that takes place.

Knicks fans on television just assume the Knicks are going to win this.

They didn't think the Knicks were going to beat the Celtics, but now Pacers, definitely, no problem.

Pacers, best record in the NBA, in the Eastern Conference since January.

This hasn't just been like a last couple weeks, last month type thing.

This has been about six months now worth of great basketball coming from the Pacers.

Why do you think all the New York fans think the Knicks are going to win this?

Why do you think everybody on TV thinks the Knicks are going to win this?

And is it strictly the bias?

Because it's the big city taking on little old Indiana, Q-Rich.

No, I think it's got some merits.

I mean, listen, if I had to pick, I would pick New York right now too.

But saying that with a caveat, knowing just like I said in the Cleveland series, this Indiana Pacers is everything you just said about them and more.

And to me, the thing that I think they don't get enough credit for is their cohesiveness, the togetherness they play with as a unit and how they have six, seven guys that you don't know who's going to kill you the worst.

It's not always scripted like a lot of the other teams.

You say, shut down this guy, that guy, you can have a better chance.

These guys want six, seven, eight guys out there, and any of them can get you 20 or possibly 30 on any given night.

So I don't say that lightly, but I do say what Jalen Brunson has done, the position he's putting himself in,

the way he scored in the clutch and in the fourth quarter and the way he's been able to lift this team, I think he's put himself as...

Obviously, he's not going to be the MVP, but in these playoffs, he's been the best player in these playoffs to me.

With what he's been able to do, no matter what the situation was, no matter how well he's playing or how bad he's playing.

When that fourth quarter came, he's been money.

He's been somebody that you could go take to the bank and he's going to get you something.

You don't know how he's going to do it.

He's got a little body, big body, but like.

He's figuring things out and he's been unstoppable when it matters most.

So when it comes down to a series that I think this is going to be a six, seven game series as well.

But when you got a closer like that,

that's the kind of thing that could tip the scales in this series.

Doesn't mean that it will, but I mean, when he's doing what he's doing, that gives them a high likelihood.

I love watching this Knicks team play.

I love everything about it because everything you just said about Brunson, but all of them, how all the guys in the fourth quarter lock in.

And it's like you find out who are the dogs and who's not.

Now, obviously, what they were doing to the Celtics and beating the Celtics, people are going to mention Tatum's injury.

They were up seven in the fourth whenever that injury took place.

They're the reigning champs.

New York knocks them off.

It's been a hell of a run for this Knicks team.

And Knicks Pacers in the Eastern Conference Finals is a beautiful thing.

Fantastic.

Yeah, I think so.

I think it's a beautiful thing.

And we're enjoying the hell out of it over here.

We know New York is as well.

Should be a great thing for sports as a whole.

Now, it comes down to who's going to smack the wood.

Tone has a question for you.

Yeah, Q, we know all the scores and the stars, but a lot of people don't know about the defenses at all.

Who do you think is the best defense left?

Who has the best advantage there left in the NBA playoffs?

I mean, statistically, I want to say it's OKC.

That's what they've really, how they ran away with their record in the season.

The versatility of their defense,

the multiple 3 and D wing guys they have.

And then, you know, Hardenstein and Check kind of anchoring it in the paint.

But I mean, when you go one through four or five, one through three or four, they got a lot of versatile guys that could guard a lot of different positions and do different things defensively.

So I think it would probably be OKC at this point.

Smack the wood, brother.

Got to do that.

All right, let's talk about some things else.

Crazy, Chad.

I let you slide the first time.

That is crazy.

That's what you guys do in basketball.

Don't you smack the wood?

You bop the wood.

That's what you guys do in basketball.

That's your basketball thing.

It's smack the floor.

No, they bop the wood.

You guys get your feet on the wood.

You guys bop the wood.

Rub the wood.

Rub the wood.

Smack the wood.

Yep.

Lick the wood.

D-butt.

Help me here, man.

Seems pretty racist.

You just did that there.

We want to get into it, but there's been a lot of raced stuff in sports media.

I don't want to dive into it, but geez.

I referred to D-Bud because the last time it was some meat or wood.

Bro, pause, bro.

Pause.

Hey, yo, what's this guy's problem?

Jeez.

Geez.

No bread.

Anyways, sometimes you got to whack the wood a little bit.

Yeah.

Whack the wood every time you want.

Every time I want you to do it.

That's your guys' sport, not mine.

I mean, Jesus.

Let's talk about things that aren't the playoffs, shall we?

Ty has a question for you.

Yeah, Kirich, I don't think we've talked to you since the lottery, and we mentioned it leading up to it.

I mean, people don't want to say it's rigged, but LeBron said he understood the assignment when the Cavs got the first pick, the Bulls getting the first pick with D-Rose.

And then even like, I think yesterday, Shaq on his podcast said that David Stern came up to him before the lottery and said, hey, do you want to play in, you know, warm weather or cold weather?

And he said warm.

And will and behold, you know, the Timberwolves get the third pick, then Charlotte, then Orlando gets the first pick.

I don't want to say, you know, do you think it's rigged, but how shocked?

shocked were you when the Mavs got awarded the first pick?

I think they had the fourth longest odds ever in the the history of the lottery.

And also, do you think that they'll hold on to that pick and draft Cooper flag, or do you think they'll use that to potentially, you know, trade for a guy like Giannis or something like that?

Yeah, I was definitely shocked when they got it.

I was excited and happy for Nico and that fan base after everything that's gone on.

Obviously, that's been well documented.

But

as far as like the whole is it or isn't it rig, this is my thing.

When everybody says that the NBA is rigged, like, you know how many players, how many like front office people have been let go from the nba and this is why i say unless unless they're out there doing something that i don't know about i've never seen a a huge group of people like that everybody be able to keep a secret when people leave on good bad terms

i feel like if it was something like that somebody would have come out on the record at this point and said something to dispel that because to me it's too easy Everybody talks.

I feel like I was in the league.

I've been part of the NBA since 2000.

And I would know something.

Somebody would have said something.

Even if I wasn't the person in the room, I would have known somebody that knows somebody.

Like, we're not that big a group of people.

You see what I'm saying?

So it's like,

that's the part that's tough for me to believe that it's this big thing going on and everybody's just keeping their mouth closed.

Like, come on, man.

We watch First 48.

Somebody always talk.

Quick to 1st 48 real quick.

Fair.

Bring McDonald's in the room.

It's over with.

Yeah, two different rooms.

Hey, did you hear what he said over here?

This is what we already know.

Lying.

Oh, if that's what he said, then boom, bang, played you both.

You're both going forever.

Yeah, it is.

Verse 48 exposed a lot of what I thought was real, isn't, you know?

And then I think it also taught a lot of people, you look out for yourself in there.

And to your point about the secrets,

there's a lot of things in the world that people think.

You know, that whole thing?

You're putting a lot of faith in humans.

You're putting a lot of faith in humans to not pillow talk,

to not just want to, you know, brag about knowing something.

And in the world that we're in everybody wants to get in front of a microphone and say something that's never been heard before seemingly so uh a lot of faith in humans if they're keeping that secret and also i don't know i guess dallas deserves it for trading luca but i don't if that would have gone if that would have gone anywhere there would have been some storyline so nobody was saying dallas beforehand yeah exactly

too they taking cooper flags for sure i just did i assumed it was in the other direction it's like hey this guy could be a generational player.

We don't want him going to Utah.

We don't want him going to Washington.

Ryan Steve, you don't think Ryan Steve?

I love him, but they won like 12 games this year.

Like, you know, we don't want him to just go wither away in the cold and never to be heard.

It's a beautiful state.

Yeah, I know.

I know.

It's the fastest growing city in the United States.

It's the Lakers.

It's the Lakers thing.

You know, do you know who got the number one pick when Anthony Davis got traded to the Lakers?

Who's that?

The Pelicans.

And now, who gets the number one pick after Lucan gets traded to the Lakers?

Who's that?

The Mavericks.

So you build up the L.A.

Lakers, the biggest, second biggest franchise in the NBA to the Celtics.

And then what do you do to the Mavs?

Hey, we'll give you a Cooper flag.

Yeah, but see, this is the thing.

Playing over there as he's talking.

You need the X-Files music over the back of the bank.

All day, every day.

All day, every day.

Now, let's talk a little bit more about

teams that aren't competing in the playoffs.

Go ahead, Carl.

All day, every day, except for today, because there are some terrible things being said about tom cruise's popcorn consumption q rich that you might have missed but he eats that popcorn but looking at the offseason completely q rich there's a lot of conversation ty mentioned yannis uh the suns kd feels like the celtics are going to be making some moves the sixers maybe even the clippers the nuggets who knows but do you think that this is going to be a very active um offseason when it comes to nba players kind of moving homes and the league kind of changing a little bit and do you think any of that has to do with this draft It feels like being considered more of a stronger draft with some top talent up there?

Anytime you have somebody like Giannis come out and it's a possibility that he could be moved, and obviously the KD situation is looming and everybody believes that he will be moved as well.

So, I mean, when you got two

all-timers, two top 75 guys

on the slate to be moved in the offseason, you know it's going to be a big offseason because those dudes are what you call seismic activity.

Either one of them, anywhere they go, that's like a huge move in the NBA.

And there's going to be a lot of pieces that move along with it.

And anytime those teams go, wherever they end up, you see some of the other teams, depending on where they end up and how good those teams are, you see other teams try to go and make moves to try to counter that or try to put themselves in a situation to be ready for that.

So I think it's definitely going to be a big offseason of moving around and a lot of player movement led by Giannis and KD.

I like it.

That's always good news for us.

Anytime big things happen like that luca trade you would see how people are like the nba worked it because when shams fires off that midnight tweet that luca got traded to the los angeles like anthony davis also traded nobody even really that wasn't even a part of the story everybody thought shams phone was hacked and everybody was talking about the nba for what the next three days yeah that was the night of the rumble that literally that yeah it was right after

the rumble so Everybody was talking about the NBA.

That hadn't been happening.

Remember, there was conversation about the ratings.

The NBA is kind of falling into irrelevancy for some reason, yada, yada, yada.

Then the Luca trade happens, and

it's

all of a sudden, LeBron and Luca are the new tag team that the entire world is talking about for good reason.

I mean, we, we obviously were excited about it.

Everybody was kind of pumped up about it.

And I think the NBA from that point on had like a hell of a year all the way to now.

It's been

hell of a year in this entire thing towards the end.

So you can see how people would think it was a work.

Adam Silver Masterclass.

You would see how people would think it was a work because how positive it was for the entire league of itself.

So you could see how that would be an easy conversation for people to have.

I can see it, but I mean, it's not like, you know, Nico, it was obviously you're trading a young superstar, but you got Anthony Davis and you were going to pair him up with Kyrie.

So they weren't going to be in the lottery at any point in the near future if Kyrie stays healthy.

But I can definitely see how the story can be built in on that.

Hey, and Nico likes to do what?

He talked about it.

What wins championships, Q Rich?

What did Nico say?

He said.

He says, he ain't lying.

The woods.

Bop the wood.

Bop the woods, brother.

Whack yourself.

It's not like the Mavericks ownership wanting to move the team either.

All right.

We appreciate the hell out of you, Q Rich.

Good luck to your Knicks.

It sounds like you're pulling for them in this series like everybody else.

Just know that little old Indiana is about to run everybody off the court.

That's what we're going to try to do.

And we appreciate the hell out of your time.

Yes, sir.

Anytime, fellas, appreciate you.

You still, you play pickup at all?

Nah, I don't move around.

I shoot, though.

I like my Achilles.

I'm nervous to go do anything sudden.

I've seen too many of them.

I sat in the doctor's office when Brandon Jennings, when I was with Detroit, when Brandon Jennings sat there and got his, I was there when he got his surgery and stuff.

And the doctor was looking at me.

He said, How old are you?

And I was like, 38, 39.

Then he was like, yeah.

You guys are the ones that bought me my lake house.

He was like,

once a week, guys, and sure age want to get in there.

He was like, every other week, somebody popping one.

And I always kept that in my head.

I was like, yeah, nah.

I never did that in the league.

I'm not about to do it now afterwards playing around.

So I chill.

Anybody who wants to spot shoot, I'll shoot your face off.

But other than that,

that's something you always have, right?

Shooters will always have a shot.

It ain't going nowhere.

It's like riding up a light.

All I got to do is get a couple warm-up shots, calibrate wherever I'm at, the wind, whether it's outside and whatnot, and then I'm going to light you up.

We need you to come into the Thunderdome.

We watched Steve Nash.

Steve Nash, maybe two bottles of wine deep.

At the time, he just got done filming the Mind the Game podcast.

And we go, Steve, you want to play a shooting game?

He goes, I haven't shot in like 11 years or something like that.

He said, I don't really do that much.

And then he goes from like six feet.

Oh,

he goes in, gets the ball, backs up two feet.

Goes in, backs up two feet.

Two feet.

Splash, splash, splash.

He goes, yeah, I think so.

I think I got it.

Goes into the corner.

corner.

Splat.

I mean, not even, 10 for 10, 10 for 10.

Didn't even touch a rim.

And he's drunk.

The guy was drunk.

And it was like, this is unbelievable for this to happen.

So we need, and Tyrese Halliburton, same exact thing.

He came in here.

I think he won 15 for 15.

That kind of turned his season around.

Legit.

I think that could potentially be a documentary that needs to be talked about.

We talked a lot of shit to him, too.

We were talking a lot of shit because

he was having a bad go there for a little bit at the beginning of the year.

He goes 15 for 15.

He starts talking shit back to us.

And when was that?

Was that in January?

Yeah, I think so.

Just about.

So, Q Rich, what we're saying is we need to see if it's just all NBA guys just come in here and fucking don't miss.

Or how am I missing shot?

How are we missing so many shots again?

Good question.

Is the hoop bigger here?

I don't get it.

You guys are just unbelievable.

Why?

So you won't miss, right?

When you're no defense, you're kind of standing in a place.

You're going to make that shot.

Like, i watch these nba warm-ups guys i've never heard of are just like seemingly 20 for 20 all over the court you guys all do that and what's the difference just a little bit

like when you you by the time you get to the nba man you've done you've done that most and you've shot the ball so many times if you anywhere even guys that get into the league that aren't the greatest shooters by the time they spend seven eight nine ten years in the league and you doing this as a job and you going and shooting every day every time you show up to work you shooting when you go to work out you shooting come on man if you don't learn learn how to shoot at some point, you just, hey, you should have did something else.

But, like, when we run it for, I've been shooting, man, since I was four or five years old.

So to me, it's never going nowhere.

I'm always, you know, like Stevie, like Stevie on the strip.

Give me a little stretch.

Give me a couple of little warm-ups.

Let's get it cracking.

All right, we got a game for you.

We'll give you some wine, too.

We got to get the NBA guys a little drunker.

Yeah, I got to get the NBA guys a little bit more boozed up.

We got some vitamins in here, too.

Change your altitude.

Maybe the ball gets a little lighter.

And I'm going to, to, hey, we will bop the wood, too.

We're going to play some defense.

We're going to play some Just McGwenn Richards today.

It's been unbelievable watching these guys shooting here.

Yeah, it's a different game.

Yeah.

Steve.

Tyrese Halliburton was having a bad year.

Bad year.

Not shooting well.

People were on him.

Like, it was bad.

He was having turnovers.

Yeah, he was shooting.

That's how bad it was.

I mean, he broke the record this year, I believe, for most games with like 10 assists and no turnovers.

And he was having like five, six, seven, eight turnovers in a game.

Yeah, and that four-point game that he had on that Friday night against Cleveland or whatever.

One for nine.

He was having those in the beginning of the year.

And nobody understood.

I don't think he understood why.

I don't think anybody understood why.

And I don't know if he had already turned it around or if they were in the process of turning it around.

Process.

But when he came here,

it was like he was shooting at a bigger hoop than everybody else.

It was, and he was backing up.

Two steps behind the line.

Exactly.

Just chucking it up.

Like what he did the other night from the logo or whatever.

He did that in here seven straight times.

Didn't even touch the rim.

And I'm like, geez, this is unbelievable.

And Tac Martins, too.

Yeah, he looks, yeah, he's dressed like an asshole.

And then Steve Nash comes in, does the same exact thing.

It's like, these guys are just,

they just got it.

Yeah.

Different levels.

And a different teammate, too.

I think that contributes.

Who's that?

Those guys, when they came in here, they're playing with a pretty good player.

Got to raise their skill.

Yeah, I think so, too.

You're 100% right.

Connor has undefeated as a 33 basketball player with NBA guys as his teammates.

So what does that say about me?

Great teammate.

NBA guy.

Great teammate.

He does shoot well.

Connor shoots well, too.

I think you feel the pressure.

I think you feel the pressure.

Yeah, because Steve Nash was talking a little shit to you.

Yeah, and then when I made one, he was talking in my shot backswing.

I'm like, hey, Steve, who the hell do you think you are?

Like, shut up.

How about that, brother?

And then we put like 30 on you guys in one round.

Yeah, I mean, just to be clear.

It was 30 to 3 and we stopped playing.

Me and Foxy, yeah, we did stop.

Me and Foxy are trying to be hospitable to our guests.

Yeah, it was a long day, too.

So we were a little tired.

That's soft.

You know what that's going to get us?

No gold medals in the Olympics.

We're going to get all the gold medals.

Not even.

We decided that.

Oh, if we're hospitable

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That's still the same story?

Yeah, still the same thing.

I can't afford a lesson, man.

I can't.

They're expensive.

I think think now you can.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We all, yeah.

But just for the record, if it was $100 million, whatever y'all said yesterday, I watched your show.

So, whatever y'all said yesterday, if it was 100-plus million, I wouldn't even have read the contract.

I would have signed that thing so fast.

So, it wasn't even near 100 million.

Yes, hundreds.

It wasn't even close to 100.

So, real quick, so were all of those numbers gassed up a little bit, you think?

Well, the internet's not always true.

What?

Hello?

Yes, we are.

We certainly see that.

Oh, yeah.

And by the way, I really want to talk to you about this.

He wasn't eating that popcorn.

Whoa!

He wasn't eating that popcorn!

Bubba!

He's on the show tomorrow!

You don't want that smoke, brother!

Yeah, y'all bumped me for him.

I had to come in a day early.

He did.

Yeah, you're hungry.

I would have bumped me too for you.

Yeah, Bubba was supposed to be on the show tomorrow.

Bubba made an earlier trip.

Not Tom Cruise, Bubba.

It's going to be a little bit.

He is certainly eating.

No, Bob.

There is no chance he's eating.

That's why the first fell because he hit his mouth.

He closed his mouth early and it fell.

And then you could tell that was it.

His hand never moved open.

He was no!

What are you talking about?

He was just like Q Rich.

Q Rich said, once he kind of figures out the room, muscle memory.

And the wind, Daniel figured out.

He was just trying to figure out the room right there.

That's that movie magic.

You don't look that good at 82.

What how old is he?

62?

62.

62.

You didn't watch your movie.

I want to remove myself from this stage, to be completely honest, but I won't.

He doesn't have 100 million, but it's close.

All right, Bubba, let's talk about it.

Let's talk about the golf.

Let's do it.

Scotty Scheffler is the man.

Okay.

He's boring.

He's boring.

No, I don't think so.

I think his game is so good.

I think his game is so good, it takes up for everything else.

I know also.

Wouldn't you love it if he just started yelling at people?

We got to fuck you out of him.

Very soon.

We got to fuck you out of him on the head on the hat slide, the hat throw afterwards.

I think it's because his driver was not doing well.

I think he feels like he probably grinded out that Sunday at Coyo Hollow.

But how long do the people in the golf world, you guys, do you talk about him goats that?

Like, when does that start happening?

Because obviously you got Jack, you got Tiger, and then Scotty is the conversation at this point.

What does he need to improve?

What does he need to do?

And why is he so good?

Is it just his ability to focus?

What is the difference?

Well, first of all, I think that he's only been around, what, four years as a pro?

So he's got 16, 12, 18 wins, whatever he's got.

So I think he's getting there to the GOAT status.

He's gaining on it, but he's still got a long way to go.

I think his year last year, when you count even the

event he had in Vegas, nine wins.

I think that was the best year we've ever seen as a golfer with the competition around the world now.

The world's playing.

So, yeah, I think he's definitely on his way to GOAT status, but he's still got a long way to go.

I mean, you got to get to 80-some-odd wins, right?

So,

and what was the other part you said?

Why is he so good?

It's just his ability to constantly.

I think he, yeah, his ability to, he trusts himself.

He's only focused on golf.

He has a great man on the bag, Teddy, who caddied for me for 15 years.

And then he, and then he believes in himself.

He putts unbelievable

but his ball striking he's swaying on the ball he's doing all this stuff but he knows what his golf swing is he knows what he wants to do and he's and he's not like I said he's boring he's playing boring golf so his heart rate is just staying right here even under pressure so he started pulling a driver a little bit and then we heard Saturday night he stayed he was at a five-stroke lead and he stayed for multiple hours fixing his grip are you guys constantly adjusting things during the tournament?

How normal is that?

Well, I think for him, you know, he came out and said that his driver was tested as well.

And so I think putting a new driver, your baby is now gone.

So he's trying to figure it out.

And every time you put a new grip on or a new shaft in there, it doesn't line up the way you want it to.

You haven't got the grip worn in the way you want to.

So he's trying to figure it out knowing that Sunday is going to be one of the hardest rounds that he's going to face, right?

I mean, he even came back to tide for the lead.

They went back up to leading.

So it's a hard round of golf.

When you know you're winning that big, how do you stay focused and committed and not trying to just par, right?

Yes.

He has to attack.

Yeah, and he does he continues and on 18 He puts one to what like four feet or whatever with the water to the left He had already locked it up because Rahm had his run and then he kind of disappears 16 17 and 18 a lot of conversation about Ram is you guys only play 54 holes at live It's a little bit different.

Is it different like having a Sunday for Rom?

Because Ram mentioned afterwards He was like I haven't felt that in a long time.

I haven't felt that type of thing because obviously Liv, different style of golf, different form of golf, different environment of golf.

I can't wait to talk to you about what the future is, you guys all think, for Live that are in it and living it.

But do you think that is a little bit working against some of the Live guys, those Sunday days and how long these tournaments are?

No, I think what I got from Rahm's interview was more of

he loved the chase.

When you get in a major, it's different than any other event in the world.

I mean, you're playing all around the world.

You're playing on the PGA Tour, but a major is different.

You're dealing with

you're fighting yourself because you're thinking about interviews.

You're thinking about this could be my next major.

This could be my first major, my eighth major, whatever it is.

And so you're thinking about that.

And then when you're thinking about chasing, he had to attack 17, especially after you bogeyed 16.

So it is, it's a birdie double.

I mean, that's how fine line it was.

So I don't think it was anything of energy.

I mean, he works out.

He's young.

You know, it's just one of those things where he just.

That wasn't his day.

That wasn't his last few holes.

It was awesome to watch Ron back in there, Dean Shambeau back in there.

It was nice to see the big names.

How do you think Liv has gone?

How have you enjoyed your experience with Liv?

Because we can talk about it from a golf fan's perspective, where the majors, it's awesome to see everybody back together.

I assume you guys have similar thoughts about it all?

Yeah, for sure.

When I looked at it from a business standpoint, you know, the contract and where Liv wants to be in 10 years, it goes back to yesterday, your point.

Your point was talking about it's a new business.

I mean, this is a new adventure.

Most businesses don't really aren't successful after a few years.

And so you have to have the growing pains.

You have to develop.

And we're a worldwide, we're F1 racing.

We're a worldwide sport.

We're trying to bring golf to the masses around the world.

PGA Tour, we're not fighting with the PGA Tour.

The PGA Tour is America.

It's PGA Tour.

And we're trying to bring around the world, everybody's watching around the world, just U.S.

hasn't got in there yet.

And when you think of F1 with the team aspect where you're playing against your teammate, but also you're trying to win the Constructors Cup.

You know, that's the same thing we're trying to do.

The Range Goats are trying to win the championship, but also you're trying to win individually.

I enjoy the team aspect of it.

I enjoy the team aspect of it.

I think I've got sick merch too.

Range goat's great name.

Well,

we actually put some thought into it.

You know, the golf ball, the golf tee is the

tough.

And then you got swamp rabbits.

Then you got, that's, that's the irons, if you can see the bits.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah, the bits, yeah.

And then you got hooks and slices as the horns.

Oh.

And then you got the rough is like the goatee.

We actually think.

Wow.

Good logo, Bob.

Good logo.

And then when you think of goat, we think a greatest of all time.

And for me,

it's twofold.

I had going through some mental struggles.

So it's Grow on a Team, and then it's Golfers on a Team.

So GOAT stands for something else to me.

And then a driving range was the funny part because the range is like where I don't like to go.

I like to go play golf.

So I hate going to the driving range.

So it just tied in some funny parts as part of the team logo.

You talk about some mental stuff.

What was that?

I assume golf is a tough game.

I was a punter, obviously, kicker in college.

A lot of in-between the years.

I think pitchers experience a similar type thing.

It's a lot of...

Or shooting a free throw.

Yeah, a free throw.

It's a lot of in-between the years.

Is that what you're talking about, Mental Stuff?

100%.

And

my struggle was

I was putting, when I played golf in 24 hours of golf channel,

when I was playing golf and I'd shoot bad,

it made me think of that's they were judging me as a person, you know, because I shot 75 or I...

or I double bogey the last hole to lose or triple bogey one of the holes.

And so I was letting that define who Bubble Watson was.

And so I was going the wrong way.

It took many years.

It wasn't overnight.

It was started from like 2000, we'll say 2009 all the way up to like 2014.

And I went from 200 pounds to 160 pounds.

So I went to the doctor.

I did all these tests and the doctor said, there's nothing wrong with you.

And I said, well, there is.

Look at me.

And it was just anxieties and stress were eating me alive.

And I was just, I was eating foods.

I wasn't changing my diet, but I was losing weight.

And that's when we realized I was just battling anxieties and stress and

letting golf dictate who I was as a person.

Yeah, control your happiness, the outcome of something that might be out of your control in this entire thing.

Did you have imposter syndrome out there?

Do you think that led to it?

I faked it, you're saying?

No, do you think imposter syndrome is whenever

you basically think to yourself, I don't deserve what I am currently doing right now.

You start to question whether or not you're supposed to be where you are.

For sure, 100%.

You think about all that.

I had that.

I want to let you know.

I had that as a punter.

I have that on a very regular basis in this current life.

It is something I think a lot of people battle with.

I think we all do it, right?

Especially as men, because men don't want.

The first thing I had to do is when I fell to my knees, when I finally realized I have to change, I went to my wife.

In 21 years of marriage, I had to go tell her the truth, right?

Like, I mean, she knows everything about me, like 98%, you know?

And so you have to tell her the truth, who you are.

You're weak.

You're not this man, this great man that everybody thinks you are or you think you are.

You're weak.

And so I had to go and talk to her and share her my true feelings and my thoughts.

And then I had to go talk to Teddy.

Teddy was on my back at that time.

Now it's better to gig with Scheffler.

But

I think everybody goes through it, brother.

Right.

And so that's what I'm saying.

I think as in men in general, have that problem.

Come on.

Way to battle.

Yeah, for sure.

That's not easy, man.

No.

That is not easy, especially in the sport of golf.

I've actually given up the game.

So is Connor.

Yeah, Connor.

I don't know.

You got that new swing now.

Whatever that elbow thing was, that was

God.

You got a video.

I watched that video.

Good social media.

I have the pocket.

Thank you, AJ.

AJ.

No, pull it.

You get in the slot.

You got to get in the slot.

I'm not here and that.

Whatever the hell that pulled.

Yeah, whatever that is.

What you got to be doing.

You don't pull with this, man.

This is the...

I'm even showing you righty.

And this is what you come through with.

This is just going to react to it.

God, I hate the spell.

I thought you had it.

I thought I had it.

I'll watch this.

Look at this.

Look, put J, put it up back here.

Look at it.

Just like me.

They're pulling it.

Yeah, but what's leading it?

The shoulder.

That front shoulder is leading it all.

So I'm pulling.

I'm eating.

I'm pulling.

Like when I'm accidentally.

Don't do that.

Put them wrists down a little bit.

It's too far out.

I see.

What's the

golfer?

Keywashamp.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, I know.

Japanese.

The shallow swing.

Have you ever seen this guy?

He's Instagram.

Baba.

Yeah.

Told me a name yet.

Wow, that's the issue, man.

I know.

Some Japanese guy.

He's a Japanese guy.

He's at a driving range.

Which is not just a driving range, mountains.

Beautifully lit.

Gorgeous.

And then every time he just has this nice, smooth, just like easy swing, and it's a draw

every time up to the sky.

Yeah.

He's so cool.

And then he says, just do the shallow swing.

It's like, I'm trying, brother.

Okay, I watch every video you got.

I watch this BJ Tour one.

I need to pull that thing into here, Bubba.

You want no lessons?

No lessons?

No lessons.

So you think that's potentially a part of the problem that you were having?

Because I think

you rely on your fundamentals in the high-pressure moments.

No, I think

if you look at the greatest golfers, right, I think that they have something unique.

Arnold Palmer, you're not going to teach Arnold Palmer swing.

You're going to teach Jack Nicholas swing.

Scotty Scheffler.

You're not going to teach that.

And I think

there is some robots.

We'll call them robots on golf swings.

Nick Faldo was one who was very good.

He could get in that robotic mood and just play golf to the best ability.

But like Scotty Scheffler, I mean, he's moving everywhere.

His feet are dancing everywhere, but you're not, you don't teach that.

That's kind of self-taught, but then he's worked on the fine details.

We are wrapping up here on ESPN.

We'll continue on YouTube, ESPN Plus, Disney Plus with Bubba Walton.

An absolute legend.

And remember, Tom Cruise is on the show tomorrow.

Bubba got bumped today for Tom Cruise tomorrow.

Yep.

Everybody understands.

Be a frontal friend of something nice.

Might change your life.

Goodbye.

All right, we're still live, obviously.

Okay, so what do I need to work on, you think?

I don't want to quit the sport entirely.

Okay, I like the sport.

At one point, it was my goal to work enough.

All the boys can become rich.

Got a bet.

I can disappear.

Yeah, I got a 30-year bet with this guy.

I got a 30-year bet with this guy.

30 years.

Keep a bubble thinks about that.

Yeah.

He owes me 10 million bucks.

I make the cut.

50.

Yeah.

I think it's 50 now.

Inflation.

Yeah, you're right.

Yeah.

All of this.

You're 100% right.

100 million.

This guy owes me 50 million bucks if I can make the cut at a senior PGA event.

So I got, what, 30 years or whatever to make that happen?

What do I need to work?

How old are you now?

38.

Okay.

Got to make a cut.

Got to make a cut.

If you do that, whatever that wing thing is.

You're going to do it.

You can't make it.

But a champions tour doesn't have a cut.

So.

That's a good point.

Yeah.

Give me an exemption.

Brother.

Top 20.

You get a top 20 of a champions event.

Then you go.

Then you count.

That's different.

We never said that.

Never said that, brother.

But what is.

Top 40.

What is the number one thing you see amateur golfers doing that you think to yourself like doofus?

Like, this is

so simple.

Like, what, I know you, I don't know how often you get to play maybe pro-ams or something like that.

You get to see.

I play all the time at home.

With amateurs?

Oh, yeah.

I play with the members all the time.

I love it.

What is the biggest thing?

Obviously, I hit a massive slice of it.

The biggest thing is chipping and putting.

That's what changes the game.

Yeah, my flastic is the worst.

But nobody, but what...

What do you think about when you're putting?

Just walking.

This person wants to go putting chip.

They want to hit the driver.

Amen.

We want to hit it hard, right?

We want to fly it.

Yeah.

Far.

We'll hit hit it off.

Yeah, we're going to hit that thing long.

Talk about good wood.

Yeah, so great wood.

Big wood.

You're telling me I need to putt a little bit more.

Yeah, putt and chip.

That's where you're going to lose the most strokes.

You're only hitting a driver at most 14 times.

So you're chipping and putting a lot more than that.

You're putting, what, 30 times at best?

So you got to practice putting and chipping.

We're putting a lot more than that, Bubba.

Well, I was trying to give you something.

We're putting a lot more than that.

D-Budd has a question for you.

Yeah, we kind of talked about it, the team aspect of Liv.

And I don't know specifically through your journey how many teams you played on golf up until that point, but how long did it take you to get used to that?

Because golf is such an individual sport.

Most of us play team sports up here.

And some of those days when you may feel like shit or you don't have your best stuff, you got a teammate to kind of lean on and pick you up.

So how long did it take you to get used to that aspect on the professional level?

Yeah, so it's interesting.

High school golf is team.

You have five guys, four scores count.

So then when you go to college, same thing.

Five guys,

four scores count.

And so I've been at every level.

I've played on the team.

And then Ryder Cup and President's Cup are our two biggest events throughout the year.

And so for me, when they brought this to my attention about how people are following teams and that's where sports are going,

it was a no-brainer for me.

And then it go back to the mental side.

For me, it was, I get to help people.

When I'm done playing and somebody's taken my spot and I'm still the owner, captain, and overseer of this team, I get to lay into these boys, try to teach them, try to help them.

Right now, Matthew Wolfe's on my team, who went through some struggles.

And so I've been able to put my arm around him and talk to him and show him, even younger than I went through it.

He's even younger.

So he's 26 years old.

So I get to try to help him going forward.

The team aspect, I know that now I'm playing for the guys next to me.

So I'm going to not pout as much.

I'm going to try to save as many strokes as I can.

It might be a one-over that day or over par that day, but it might be better than somebody else.

So I've got to lead by example and show that I'm not a quitter and I'm going to fight through even my struggles.

But then at the same time, you're watching three other guys and hopefully you're watching them and you learn from them or want to battle with them, especially our team championship at the end of the year is where it's match play.

So yeah, you don't want to let them down.

And now golf finally is like football.

The guy next to you, if he's working 100% and you're working 100%,

your team has a chance to pull it out or win that day yeah team rider cup's always been sweet to watch the golf aspect and the idea who's up who's down who do we need everybody rallying around it and i think that was a fascinating thing whenever live launched that like hey we're gonna make a a solo sport a single sport into a team sport as well we think it'll be fun then obviously the music i don't love it the music but i appreciate what it is it's like a sign of like it's hey you can do golf differently then obviously the shorts i think i that was wild we went away from shorts by the way pants only pants and pants now and golf, unless it's over 90 degrees, but then it's still subjective.

So, basically, pants.

Okay, so we went to the pants.

So, we're still evolving, trying to create this, which is kind of what Debunch was saying in the entirety.

We're not at the finished product of Live.

From what you understand of the inside workings of Live, this is going to be, we got runway for this thing to continue to grow?

100%.

So, the Live PGA negotiations that have been chatted about, I don't know how much you know, I'm not going to ask you to be on the inside of a massive negotiation, an international negotiation with a lot of political play and well, as well.

But do you think LIV would need a PJ partnership to continue?

Or is Liv saying we're going to continue for the next 10 years regardless of what happens?

Liv is here to stay.

Liv's not going anywhere.

The people behind LIVE is it's not going anywhere.

You're looking at changing culture.

You're looking at changing

the game itself.

America is a small piece of our world, and golf is global, and

golf is getting global more and more.

So we're going to places that the PGA Tour is not or European Tour is not.

So we're trying to show golf in different areas.

It's just like soccer or football is now played in the United States.

We never really watched it until now.

Now it's shown on ESPN.

We're watching the Euro Cup and all these different things.

So it's just sports is going global now.

And so we're not battling the PGA Tour.

The PGA Tour

is here to stay as well.

Our viewer, we have 30% of our people that that show up to our events have never been to a professional golf event.

So that means we are growing the game outside of the PGA tour or outside of our country.

And so that's what we're doing.

We're trying to just show it in a different light and get more people to watch and play.

And that's kind of what we're doing.

And it's global and not just America.

Yeah,

I appreciate that

the mission is a lot different than how we view it.

Because we're just like, where the hell is this?

We have no idea where we can watch this.

We know there's a lot of superstars over there.

We're big fans of yours.

We're big fans of Brooks.

We're big fans of DJ.

We're big fans of Rombo.

We're big fans of Com Wolf, Oklahoma State Kid.

Yeah, okay, big fan of him.

Like, there's a lot of guys we're big fans of, but we can't find it.

For you guys, the mission isn't just like, hey, we need everybody in America watching this right now.

Right now, it's we're trying to grow the game globally.

We're trying to captivate audiences and maybe markets that haven't been touched before.

And then inevitably, America's going to come, is the assumption.

That's the hope.

That's the dream.

You want it to.

Do you need it to

not right now you don't but you but you want it to happen yeah 100 um f1's what got three didn't have races before now it's got three races in the united states um we have a few events in the united states we're coming here uh august yeah august 15th through the 17th and by the way i'll give you a pro am y'all want to play in the pro-am i'll I haven't asked anybody, but I'll make y'all play in the pro-am if y'all want to play in it.

Hey, I think I've quit the game, but some of the boys here.

I mean, you got a new swing now.

You're going to be chipping and putting.

You said my swing is ass.

That's why I said chip and putt.

Okay, all right, yeah, because we need to get to the grand.

Okay, August 15th through the 17th, you guys are going to come to Chatham Hills Golf Club, which is a beautiful place.

I assume every course you go to is beautiful.

That's why golf is so awesome.

Such beautiful views, such beautiful scenes, such a beautiful sport, which was why my goal was to get enough money to be able to go to a place.

I wanted a gated neighborhood on water.

golf cardibold with three different golf courses.

And that was just going to be my that was it.

That was going to be that was going to be my retirement.

That was going to be my entire life.

Is there a place like that that exists?

You tell me.

The villages, old people.

That's where I'm trying to head to.

That was the goal.

Everybody is literally born in the middle.

Yeah, that's where I'm.

Florida.

The villages in Florida.

It's somewhere.

This exists somewhere.

Puerto Rico.

Puerto Rico has a place.

I was there.

It is basically what I've been looking for, but I quit the game.

So now

I don't know what the future is.

And with your motivational tactics, you just tried to give me here, it wasn't the right play.

You telling me it was ass was not going to challenge me to get better.

It actually,

it was the universe telling me I need to fuck quit sports.

I agree.

So me and Connor will definitely come to the pro-am.

Foxy needs to be in that, though.

No, no one wants to watch me play in that.

Come on for that.

AJ needs to be in that.

There you go.

AJ's a player, dude.

This guy's an actual player.

Go ahead, AJ.

Yeah, Bubba, a question I've always had for a professional golfer, does it help to almost be dumb out there or naive to everything going on around you?

I feel like that's why, you know, the weekend warrior golfer drinks 10, 12 12 beers, gets to catch a little buzz, and he starts playing his best golf.

Like, I feel like sometimes it's very easy for people to overanalyze every single aspect of their golf shot.

Is that something that professionals struggle with?

100%.

I think that the greats of the game know how to block everything out and focus or refocus if they get off.

for the first couple holes.

That's one of my struggles is trying to get away from all of the stuff behind the ropes.

I've been able to do it a few times, but when you get in the zone,

you don't even realize what people are saying, what people are wearing, or what people are doing.

But most of the time I fail because I've only won 12 times on the PJA tour, but lost 300 points.

12?

That's Dawson, brother.

Yeah, but I've lost, what, 300, 400 times.

So

mentally.

I was going to do the math there.

Percentage is on A.

Yeah, but mentally, though, like Tiger Woods, Corey Paven was my idol when it comes to mental stuff.

He's an old player.

I don't know if you know who that is.

I know the history of the sports.

Exactly.

And then And then now you got Scotty Scheffler.

Scotty Scheffler looks like he's just, he's not even paying attention.

He's barely talking to Teddy when he's out there.

So you are trying to lock in.

You're trying to, because it's like you said, it's punters, it's pitchers.

You're trying to stay in your moment and try to pull off

that kick,

that throw.

You're trying to hit that swing.

You're trying to get in the slot, you know?

Yeah.

Come out of the pocket.

I don't want to get in that.

That looks good, man.

Thank you.

Looking better.

Baba, I already quit the game.

I don't need to hear you shit.

Go ahead, Connor.

Also quit the game.

Yeah, I did quit the game.

No point to play.

But speaking of kind of getting out of that mental rut, as a two-time Masters champion, when you see Rory kind of get it done this year at Augusta, obviously we all saw the massive weight off his shoulders, the emotion after he finishes that Grand Slam.

Watching it as someone who's been through that struggle of a four-day bender in Augusta trying to win that green jacket.

How did you feel?

And is there like a community of green jackets who kind of were pumped and excited for Rory and welcomed him in to the clubhouse and everything like that?

And could you relate to him as he did?

Because I remember when you won your green jacket, it was a very emotional scene as well.

100%.

When I won mine, I just adopted my son, my first child, two weeks before.

And then when I won, I was thinking about me becoming a dad and my dad passed away in 2010.

And so just a lot lot of emotions of battling to get to where I was.

And with Rory, yeah, it's a different kind of battle.

I mean, he was up there.

I mean, he was the cream of the crop.

He's still the cream of the crop, but he was up there, had a chance to win the masters a few times.

Yeah, I sent him a text right away, told him how awesome it was to see.

Very good player, very good, talented player.

And he said, I can't wait to have a locker next to yours.

And I can't wait for a Tuesday night dinner.

That was his responding to me.

How much do you guys judge how shitty the dinner is going to be by who the winner is?

And is is that already happening?

Oh, that's been happening.

Well, for me, it happens all the time.

I try to eat before.

Oh, so you're not worried about their dinner.

Yeah, I care what this is.

Oh, so this one was good last past year.

Scotty's good.

Scotty has the sliders.

So it's got an appetizer.

So he has the sliders, and this year he put the french fries on top of the sliders.

Oh, Pittsburgh.

Oh, yeah.

So

I was eating that all up.

Okay, so you're in a lot of wine, too, right?

In kind of the Augusta thing?

Yeah, there's some guys, yeah, that they provide it.

Some guys drink it, some guys don't.

And then some guys,

because the past champion has to, he has to pay for everything.

So guys are getting bottles of wine and getting him to sign it and so they can take it to their trophy case.

And so it's just more money on the bill.

I don't know the place.

There's a wine thing down in the basement.

Yeah, there's down underground.

They have a lot of secret rooms around that place.

Is that right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

You didn't hear that from me, though.

No, no, of course not.

And I've never been there either.

There's like some very expensive shit downstairs.

Oh, yeah.

They got some heavy-duty stuff down there.

It's not a presidential.

I I don't know anything about it.

They got some presidential stuff down there, I think.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, they got some heavy.

From what I've been told.

You've never been there.

How about the

junior or the amateur crow's nest?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Crazy.

It's right above, like, champions locker.

So it's right above champions locker.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So you would go through there and then you would just go up there and then you'd walk down around.

Yeah, there's four.

It's, I think there's four or five beds up there, but then there's like no, like it's like

a dorm room.

It's like a dorm room.

There's no doors.

Like you're just

random.

Yeah.

I just just heard about this.

Well, that Bennett kid,

when the Bennett kid was in it a few years ago, we yeah, that's how we learned about it.

There's a card game up there, too.

What's the card?

They have like a table center for a card game.

I wasn't good as an amateur, so I never got to stay up there.

Have you ever gone up there?

I've been up there, but I've never stayed up there.

I think a Manning, the one that played for New York, destroyed a toilet up there.

Okay.

So

this year, I do know this year, the amateurs got out of there on Tuesday.

They stayed like Monday night, Tuesday night, and then they got out.

Like they, then they go stay somewhere else.

Yeah, the twin beds.

Yeah, it's not, it's not comfortable.

And then you want to go stay with your family.

It's your first masters as an amateur and all these things.

So you want to go stay with your family and friends.

I do think Liv,

talking about staying in the week before lead up, brought a lot of light to what life was like in a PJ tour before Liv that I don't think any of us knew about.

Nope.

About how much you can lose money, basically, even if you're a big star.

And then I think, was it Jordan's dad?

did some rating

bonus thing

because they're like not making a cut losing a bunch of money but but showcasing your downfall basically every Thursday and Friday so that the ratings would go up.

So the PJ tour would be making money.

It was like a one-way contract, basically.

Move the needle bonus.

Yeah, that was basically what it was.

Yeah, and if you were featured and how much, and you get a bonus at the end of the season, and everything like that.

Social clips of shots, like if it was you and they went and it had a bunch of impressions or views or whatever that happened.

And I think Speed Stad was like a statistician or something like that.

Top 10 got paid that.

Vigo, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, we had no idea that the PGA was like a one-way road, though.

My last year on the PGA, I was top 10.

I got a little bonus.

Hey, Bubba must watch.

That's because his pink driver will be out here.

I know that the boy was going to be sending some big-time big shots.

But I didn't know that was what the PGA tour was for so long.

Obviously, everybody's lucky to be a professional golfer and they feel that.

But we had no idea, like big stars potentially losing thousands, tens of thousands of dollars whenever they're not making a cut.

We just assumed that it was a part of a contract in that entire thing.

So I think that was good whenever Live came out.

And I think that PJA tour has changed because of that.

I didn't know that was your guys' life in the PJA tour.

Yeah, so you don't, you don't,

you have to prove to earn, right?

Like you to make your money.

And so I know of a player now, a caddy, Paul Tessori.

I probably shouldn't have called him out, but he played on the PJA tour.

He went to University of Florida, got his PJA tour card,

missed every cut, 17 cuts in a row.

He missed.

So he never made a dollar that year.

So think about it.

If you're at,

let's just make up a number back then, or $1,500 a week to your caddy

back then.

And then your hotel, I mean, you know, your flights, your food, if you have a trainer, if you have a coach, I mean,

back then, you're probably

five, six, anywhere from five to $10,000 down.

So 17 weeks of $10,000 down.

I mean, you're in debt.

You're like...

Congrats, you're a professional golfer.

You've lost $200,000 on a season.

Yeah, that was crazy to learn about.

I think that is something that live kind of changed golf for the future uh for the professional golf the elevated events that started taking place with the more prize polls were good do you feel is there a sense of pride by you live guys that that has happened well i mean for me you were he was asking about the team earlier for me i wanted to i wanted to do something different i wanted to be an entrepreneur and for me to have a franchise it's a golf franchise i mean it's a dream come true to be able to be in the sport like that and own a franchise um

so yeah i mean i take pride in being able to to think outside the box and do something different.

And if it does help the PGA Tour players, great.

Nobody's trying to hurt the PGA Tour players.

Nobody's trying to hurt professional golf.

We're trying to help professional golf and grow it around the world.

And so, yeah,

it's definitely better than it was for the PGA Tour players.

But it's still top heavy.

I mean, the guys that are, you know, now there's only, what, 70 or 75 guys keep their tour card instead of 125.

So there's things that they've changed.

positive and negative on all fronts.

Same thing with Live.

We've changed things positive and negative.

We're trying to figure it all out.

Q school still happen or no?

And what does Live have that's like that?

Because I know there is a.

We have guys fall off.

There's four or five, four, I think now six guys fall off our league.

And so if you don't finish in the top 48, you fall off our league.

There's a qualifier as of right now

where one spot gets on to live.

And PJ Tour has a qualifier.

So like let's say for instance.

Okay.

I hit this golf sim up here.

Okay.

So you're back into golf.

This is a hypothetical.

For instance.

It's a hypothetical bubble.

But let's say I figure out that slot.

You know, I hit that shallow,

far from the deep.

Chipping and putting

right down here.

I can win a tournament and be in the live league?

100%.

Do you guys test for weed?

For you, no.

Okay.

Okay.

Maybe we do have a path.

Maybe we do have a path to professional golf in this entire thing.

I think like the U.S.

Open, right?

There's a qualifier for it.

I was like that.

Like, because I watched that

break it.

It was on golf channel.

Big break.

The big break.

Yeah.

I used to watch that.

I love that.

Tony Finau.

Yeah.

Was on the big break.

Really?

Yeah.

You break some glass.

I mean,

the controlling, I love that.

But I also love the fact that you got an opportunity now to go do it.

But then people would lose their cards and then they'd get back in there.

Feels like a grind.

Let's talk about the schedule at the PGA and what your life was like.

Now, Liv, obviously, Dustin Johnson spoke about it.

Hey, it's less work, more money.

Like that is clearly a business model for Dustin Johnson and part of his decision making.

You guys are on the road Tuesday through hopefully like Sunday.

How does that work?

Yeah, there's no more cuts.

So we're there for the whole week.

But I try to go in on Monday to get practice because nobody's out there.

Even if I'm traveling overseas, I try to get in there a little bit early.

Now that my...

My kids are older, so now my kids come out and go to the tournaments with me.

They're allowed on the range with me.

They're allowed to do whatever.

I'm the owner owner of the team, so they're allowed to ride with me wherever I want to go.

John Jerry Jones.

Yeah, exactly.

I mean, our team sucks, but we're trying to...

We got a great logo.

Yeah, exactly.

The logo is the key.

Absolutely.

And so, you know, I love it.

We have time off.

PJ Tour quit having time off.

We started going year-round.

And so being able to spend time with my kids and watch them play sports is a dream come true.

And they love watching me play golf.

My son's getting old enough now.

He can walk all 18 holes and follow me.

And so it's a blast out there, like going to Spain and London.

We're going to stop over in Rome, let him see Rome for a couple of days.

Wow.

I love it.

But now, going back to the PGA tour schedule, there was 40 events.

For me,

you pick your top 20 courses you believe fit your game.

And so then you can do that.

But now on Live, it's tougher because you've got 14 weeks.

You have to play in all 14.

No matter if all courses suck for you or all courses are good for you, you have to change your game and try to figure figure out your game and how you can play and attack each course, even though it might not be the courses you want to play at.

And on the PGA tour, out of 40, you can find some that you can play well and perform at so you can keep your card.

Okay, you said you're walking, your oldest, or walking a course.

What happened to hover craft?

What happened to the hover thing?

Insurance.

Oh, yeah.

That's dangerous.

That thing's dangerous.

Hard to stop?

No, it stops quick.

That's the problem.

No seat belts.

Yeah.

Nine inches of air.

So when you let off the gas, that thing just drops and it just digs in the ground.

It's a paperweight.

If you're over water, you better not let go.

You're going off.

You better keep holding that gas.

How?

So the golf boys?

Is that what it was?

I think it was.

The golf boys, yeah.

What a time.

I'm thinking about going solo.

I've been thinking about this.

I still have my overalls.

You look great in them.

Yeah.

Do you still have the hovercraft?

I can probably pull it out of the garage.

Do you got any bars?

Because didn't you guys sing and rap and this?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

You've been writing songs?

I've always got ideas in my head.

Remember, I told you, I got mental issues.

There's always things.

That was a great moment.

Golf has been fantastic.

You've been one of the trailblazers of it.

Ty has a question for you.

Speaking of courses that kind of fit your style, going back to Augusta, do you feel like anytime you show up there, are you in the mindset like, hey, I have a chance to win this week?

Like, I always look at a guy like Boom Boom Couples, who, you know, no matter how old he gets.

Come Saturday, he made the cut.

He's 100.

Now he's getting older, so he might, you know, shoot 78, 80 on Saturday and Sunday.

But when you go back to Augusta, no matter how you're playing, do you always feel like, hey, if I have it going, you know, early here, like I have a shot to win another green jacket?

100%.

And Freddie is my example.

You'll see Freddie's name somewhere on that leaderboard the first couple days.

And maybe he wakes up too early and he can't tee off at 2 o'clock the next day because that's his nap time.

But

he's always up there, right?

And so I always believe there's not much rough there.

So I believe I can hit crazy shots and get out of the trees.

This year is the first time ever I led the field in putting, and it happened to be at at the Masters this year.

I've been working hard on my putting and changing things, but I can remember four shots that cost me anywhere from six to eight shots.

And those would, you know,

I'd be about second place, third place, somewhere in there, and challenging for the man.

That's golf, isn't it?

I'm happy to hear you go through this as well.

That's crazy.

That's golf right there.

If I didn't hit it, that probably.

Yeah.

And that changes everything because that is golf.

But it's like we talked about ROM.

If that ball hits soft or a little bit more to the right on 17, he he might tap in Birdie.

And now it's a whole different animal, right?

But it bounced into the water.

And so it's the same thing.

I hit a ball in the water on 16.

I hit a ball in the water on 13 on my drive.

So those are the two that I know of.

But there's four swings that I went back and looked at that cost me a chance for a top three or battling for a win.

Same, what you just said is why man Connor quits sport.

Yeah, exactly.

No, no.

Come back, boys.

I mean, there's a chance that I can get back in a league.

I didn't know there's a chance I could get into a professional golfer.

You know, I'm in professional wrestler,

professional soccer player,

professional football player, professional baseball player.

WWE, right?

It's going global now.

Oh, yeah, it always has been.

Okay, but think about if the NFL network only showed 10 NFL teams, right?

Like we're talking about a global sport.

So PJ Tour is America and Live is trying to go worldwide.

I mean, every sport now is going worldwide because there's other opportunities out there.

Football is going in Germany now, Mexico,

Germany had like 2 million people waiting in the queue or a million people waiting for them.

That's what I'm saying.

And golf is, people are waiting to pay for it.

I saw that Australia clip, right?

Wasn't that Australia?

I think Adelaide, what's the best stop you've been on that's kind of surprised you?

Adelaide is getting is bigger and bigger.

I mean, we're at a 50,000 people a day.

I mean, and you're just, we're talking about, like, we're talking about the ropes.

Some of the ropes are on the fairway.

I'm like, how am I going to hit this fairway?

I'm going to hit these people.

But they just

are down with it down there.

They love their sport down there.

And all they want to do is shoeys.

I just want want to win so I can do a shoey.

I don't want to do a shoey, but I just want to win.

Yeah, for the people to do a shoey.

Yeah, it's very nice of you.

You're one of the guys.

I just got shown a video that I did not know existed.

You had a jet pack as well?

We're talking about the hover.

You had a jet pack?

It wasn't legal in the United States, just for the record.

So international, is it?

I think they tested it in New Zealand.

Is that you?

That's not you.

Tom Cruise?

I do my own stunts, guys.

I eat popcorn.

I literally eat popcorn.

So does Tom Cruise.

So does TZ, Bubba.

So does Tom Cruise, Bubba.

There was no butter on that popcorn.

You could tell that was fake.

What?

You don't need butter.

You're a butter guy.

I can tell.

I didn't get butter this morning, but I am a butter guy.

He was having popcorn at 7.30 this morning in honor of Tom Cruise.

Amen.

In case you have a little bit of respect for popcorn.

I didn't know you were in a jetpack.

These exist?

Did you feel that in the United States?

It's illegal in the United States.

Did you feel safe?

Let me make sure I say that again.

It's illegal.

Did you feel safe in that?

Did you fly in that?

No, I'm scared of everything.

I play golf for a living i walk for a living that seems pretty easy getting in and out of that thing for every shot you i mean

it's not about the golf it's more about the look right it's style you're right you gotta go i'll tell you what you have a helmet on take a helmet on pull the cloth

yep like amusement but at the same time

but at the same time you want to do it right definitely

i've been looking for a jetpack for years you'll play golf again if that was the case you know what maybe two olds if i could throw

if i could throw the ball, maybe that is what I would do.

That thing ain't going to be able to land where I am.

I just talked about the trees.

That shit ain't going to be.

That's a fairway golfer.

Good for you.

Maybe you take a drop.

I mean, you certainly fly that thing over the green.

I would get a little club

out of the sky, let that thing drop down like one of those,

you know, whenever they do the ball drop on the green at those golf outfits.

Or whatever.

Yeah.

That's what I would be like.

Bubba, you're an innovator, brother.

The brain always going.

I love that you're running your own business.

Good for golf.

Let's head over to Hammer.Tong.

Todd Diggs has a question for you.

Yeah, Bubba, there's been a lot of talk about on our show about the difference between regular season and playoff and the atmosphere for that.

And then there was a lot of talk at Quail Hollow kind of that it's a regular season PGA stop, you know, and a lot of people were upset that a regular season PGA stop was a major course.

What is the main difference between a regular season event versus a major as far as the course go and the atmosphere goes?

And then the upcoming our hometown, we got Oakmont coming up.

How's the setup for Oakmont?

Well,

first of all, they're going to change the course a little bit.

They're going to set it up tougher.

They added T's.

I mean, there was a bunch of holes over 500 yards, which I thought was silly.

Number nine was one of the toughest holes they play on the regular season.

And then to add, I think, 40 or 50 yards was crazy.

The rough is up.

The greens are firmer, tougher pin placements.

So they're going to trick it up as much as they can.

But then the atmosphere, the

knowing what it is, going into it, you're trying to win a major for the first time, second time, third time, whatever it is.

The media hype behind it is really where it just starts going in your head and your energy level, and you start getting pumped up.

But yeah, they definitely trick the course up as much as they can.

I mean,

is that how you guys describe it?

Trick it up?

They trick it up, yeah.

I mean, it's putting these trick pins in this shit.

But it's, I mean, it's the only sport.

We keep changing the field, right?

There's no other sport.

You're not changing.

Three-point line is the only thing we've changed in, what, 50 years of basketball.

So,

you know, Pebble Beach plays at the same place, but Pebble Beach, when it's a U.S.

Open, nobody says, oh, it's just a regular, it's Pebble Beach.

I mean, it's hard as can be when they set it up.

And I think that's the same thing they did with Charlotte.

Oakmont is crazy, even on a regular day.

Oakmont with the rough up, I finished fifth there in 07

when Ángel Cabrera won and

the rough was I mean the rough felt like it was a foot deep there was nothing

there was nothing you could do and now there's no trees there like they've changed the trees you can see the whole golf course now but they're still gonna have the high rough without without rain it's gonna be firm and fast like links golf but then with high rough

So yeah, they're gonna, like I said, they're gonna, we call it tricking it up.

They're gonna put the pins in crazy places where you're gonna have to, missing the green sometimes is better than hitting the green because of the chip's gonna be easier than a long putt.

We knew these majors were tricking, weren't it?

We knew they were out there tricking it up.

Bubba, you said you've been working on your putting, and then there's a potential pro-am here at Chatham Hills Golf Club, August 15th through the 17th live golf event.

Welcome to Indiana, by the way.

I don't know where Chatham Hills is that in Indianapolis.

I have no idea.

I think it's the Carmels.

Carmel Nova.

Yeah, up north.

Nice area.

It's for us.

It's here.

It's in

Indianapolis.

Yeah.

Indianapolis.

It's close enough.

It's north of Indianapolis in Westfield.

Okay, Westfield.

Just for the record, there will be

goats on the driving range.

For you?

We always bring goats, like Chicago, and now we're here, so we're going to bring some goats in.

So we have a petting zoo on the golf course.

Oh, man.

Well, miniature goats or full-size goats are?

I think they're all small, right?

But no, there is miniature.

We had miniature in Chicago.

You guys should sacrifice.

Okay.

Maybe I'll get the team around.

Maybe you turn the team around.

You want to buy some goat meat?

Yeah,

slip one throat for a victim.

Drink some of the butt.

That's a lamb.

In Adelaide, we had on the sixth hole, we had like, you know, there's a party hole.

Yeah.

And then on the sixth hole this year was like the family, the kids party hole.

And we had, I think we had 12 goats.

So there was like a petting zoo of goats.

And so that was their party hole, the kids.

Wow.

So you guys are trying to make it.

Yeah, so we met the range goats.

We brought it out ourselves and we.

How do you feel about the music?

How do you feel about the music?

I think

live,

you've been to some event.

Live, I think it's okay.

On TV,

it doesn't mesh well on TV.

If there's a way to get TV, no music, but live, it's fine.

Yeah, you've been to a few of them?

For sure.

I mean, and if the environment, I feel like it's kind of more upbeat, you know, piece of money.

Good vibes.

Yeah, and it's younger.

You still, yeah, if you're around the golf, you still respect, you know, they're tien off and doing his putting and shit.

But like, it's golf a lot.

They got little stations set up in different places for different vibes, different setups, concessions, or whatnot.

But I I liked that.

I enjoyed it.

I'm a guy that's newer to golf.

I got into golf like two, three years ago.

So it was great for me to just have another option.

Obviously, I want to see the best players playing against each other every week, but it's definitely a different version of golf.

And it's kind of how I play golf.

I'm out with the boys.

We got speakers.

We're drinking.

We're doing our thing.

So it's definitely a different vibe for sure.

Definitely.

Can't golf without music, personally.

Yeah.

Can't.

But you hate the music.

Yeah, I just don't want to hear.

I love DJ Callen.

Yeah.

I don't need him screaming, we the best as somebody who's trying to you know make a tournament winning putt it doesn't translate to TV.

That's the issue.

That is true.

It's hard for me to be like, oh, this is serious when it's my playlist being played while Rombo Bombo's about to throw his club into the damn.

You know, it's just, I think there's a couple things that golf has gotten right.

Like, hey, golf has gotten right.

But I do like that they're exploring the space and we're trying to kind of make it bigger.

And

what did you think about TGO?

Did you watch it?

I thought it was good.

I'm interested to see how season two will go.

They added the Motor City Machine Guns.

That's right.

Oh, yeah.

But not until 27.

Oh, so they're saying it's going to be two more years.

They got to get the team together.

The league's got to be around for that.

It might not even pop up.

Well, that's what we were saying, actually.

I was pumped that it got another season.

Whenever I heard Motor City Machine Guns are going to get a team.

That's the name?

Yeah.

Tentatively.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You sure it was like the Motor City hot dogs or something dumb like that.

No.

No, you're talking about the Weenie Mobile right now.

It's got a year.

It might change.

Who knows?

Yeah.

Yeah, but I didn't know it was 2027 because I heard 2020, next season is what I thought.

I'm like, congrats to TGL.

We got another year is what I thought.

You're saying they're saying we got at least two more years of this, which I think is good.

I enjoyed it.

I think it had a lot of opportunity.

Is that how you're feeling?

But yeah, I think that

it had great opportunities.

It had a great concept.

I think that,

but how are we going to do it?

If it's the same, in the same building and the same shots, and I heard rumor they're trying to build one somewhere else right now, but if it's in the same area, same shots, how are we going to change it up?

And like I'm a part of it, how are we going to change it up?

Golf, golf, golf.

We'll say we talk.

I would go,

you might have to get some celebrities in there, see some shanks.

I mean, you've got to try to get something in there.

Golfers that are

not as good.

You want some shanks in there.

You want to, I mean, Tiger shanked one, I think, right?

Got bladed one early.

Not Billy Ho, brother.

Best TGL player of all time.

He won a choppy champion.

Hang his tarp.

Yeah, he did.

They do need to have more than one course, though.

You're right.

Yeah,

it's the same shot.

So viewing it week after week, it's like, oh, I've seen them do this shot.

What do you want to do?

Put windmills in front of the thing?

Sure.

They better.

Or

change it up.

Actually, that would be a good idea.

Randomize.

They make it like a putt-putt operation.

Like, can you even get to the screen to get to the course?

And I was really worried about technology.

How is technology going to, you know, work instead of have glitches?

But I think it worked pretty well.

Our sim is the worst.

Yeah, Voltaire.

The worst.

Not even a sim.

It's just a screen.

I just hit into a blank screen, a blank camera.

Don't even turn the computer on because I know it's not going to work.

Is that how yours is?

No, mine's good at the house.

That's because you got that live money.

Let's talk a little bit about August 15th through 17th as Live Golf makes its debut in Indianapolis, Indiana.

I think y'all should go live out there.

Just do this show live out there.

Bubba, you're a businessman, as am I.

There's a chance.

Okay, there's the conversations are open.

We are open for.

we're starting a conversation today okay crown prince god bless him would also like to uh talk to him i just now like live golf and music muke is great

you know not bad actually

play yeah morgan wallin's new album just running right through 37 of them 37 songs

actually 35.

i remember correctly somebody yesterday said 35.

yeah i watched the show guys yeah i think it's actually 36 because i thought there was uh an intro there is not an intro

there's just an interlude so it's 36 songs all of them are currently on the whatever the top 50 top 100 whatever it is good for him absolute wagon um

should he just i don't know just as a business person we could save some of these can't we for another album yeah maybe three albums yeah people are putting out like eight song albums yeah he'll probably tour this for the next 20 years though i agree and he probably will but if he was to put out a 20 song album people would be like holy shit this guy's got 20 songs old buddy just put out seven songs last week and thought it was a big deal deal.

And then he could drop a 17-song album on the back end of that.

I just think because of how

he sings and how he, I think he just is going to pump out maybe a thousand.

Is he going to have a thousand bangers?

Is that what the goal is?

I mean, I guess.

Because he's young.

Yeah.

And just like golf, you can do that.

Yeah, he's on his way.

You can do that a long time.

He's going to have a thousand bangers.

There's going to be demand too.

I mean, people will listen to this album, but then in like two years, it's going to be like.

But what if his next album only has like nine?

but that would be a normal ass album exactly you'll be like well where are the other ones hey brother we need you're missing 30 songs here but he there's a chance he has a thousand think about the song catalogs that people are selling right now people are getting like 200 250 million for their catalogs 300 million for the catalogs if he has 500 songs that are all bangers yeah that's he's gonna be

congrats dude congratulations keep pumping out 37 i mean just yeah 37 hits.

I don't know how he does it.

Now, speaking of hits, I very rarely hit the green.

But if I get to the green, I can't putt for shit.

We put this in here to try to tempt me into becoming a better putter.

Okay?

It's right here.

Walk across it every single day.

Get some putts up.

To your point, I hate it.

I don't do it because there's seven balls out there.

I'll miss every single one.

You should not, though.

Bubba, if you make

five?

You got a lefty putter?

That's fair.

Yeah.

Is five a good number, you think?

It's got to be a ping.

Do you have a ping?

We don't have a ping.

Lifetime deal with ping, man.

I got to use it.

What is the lifetime?

Lifetime.

Make sure you say lifetime.

Lifetime?

That's awesome.

All right, how about this?

Will you be able to putt with the unduffable?

Do we have to?

I'll just putt with a wedge.

I bought this.

What is that, the alien wedge?

I was watching the golf fix.

Thank you very much.

Had pool tubes.

It was underneath my pool noodles underneath my arms.

It was 2.15 a.m.

And they put the unduffable on the screen.

And I said, shit, I duff all the time.

I'm going to buy that.

Guess what you can do with this?

Three easy payments?

You can, well, yes.

And also, you can duff, Bubba.

I've accomplished the impossible mission.

Did you get your money back?

No.

You're about to say mission impossible.

Sorry, man.

Yeah, that's why you need to stop with the port.

I did stop.

Because he didn't eat the popcorn.

He did.

No, he didn't.

Let's watch it again.

Queue it up.

Hold on.

So you literally can't puff without a.

Do we have a fucking pop?

I don't think we have a ping.

I'm not.

I've sworn we have.

We do have a lefty putter, though.

We do have a lefty putter.

A lifetime deal.

Boom.

Bright ping on.

Yeah, just bleep it out.

Okay, boom.

Five, you think?

Five?

I don't know.

You want to roll one?

Yeah, they're painting golf balls just for all the money.

Nice shoes.

They're all about the money.

Those are sick.

Those are sweet shoes.

Yeah, damn.

Do you want to calibrate one first, or do you want this to count?

Let me see.

Count it.

Smooth butter, man.

All right, right, okay.

Smart, let's see.

He said, Yeah, we're good.

Okay, you got to make

okay.

Tone diggs and hammered downtown just said, Do you gamble with Phil?

Do I?

Yeah.

I don't gamble.

Smart.

I like that.

I like that.

I like that a lot.

I like that play a lot.

Phil stopped gambling, too.

This is easy.

Did he?

This is easy.

Okay, how about this thing?

Why?

No, I'm going to

it's the unduffable please have a little respect or it's righty he said I'm gonna give it to duffel okay so there's five balls there what is a good number here for you to make three with this what

chipping it's chipping

oh okay so two you got all right you gotta go two out of these next four here you go two out of there hold on Baba hold on Jace.

In a groove.

Darius is going to be at the pro-am, I assume, at Chatham Hills.

Absolutely.

AJ will also do the Chatham Hills Golf Club pro-am, right, AJ?

I'll do it, yeah.

We're making decisions for live right now.

Yep.

Oh.

Oh, no.

Uh-oh.

I was going to say, if you make two out of this final four, I'll play in the thing, but

great news.

All right.

Nope.

Well, we're not growing the game.

Thank God I don't have to play that thing.

I quit the game.

I quit the sport.

I was going to have to actually.

No, it's not the wedge.

It's unduffable.

It's unduffable, too.

Have a little respect.

I bought that off the golf channel.

Okay, they wouldn't put that on the golf channel if it wasn't the real deal.

Yeah.

I'm happy to see you suck with it, too.

I suck with it.

You suck with it.

We whack the wood.

Exactly.

Defense.

All about defense.

All right, Bubba.

Thank you for coming out here.

You're going to a fever game tonight?

I hope so.

Is that tonight?

Yeah, it is tonight.

Yeah.

She's electrifying.

It's unbelievable.

So I believe she's, my wife played in the WNBA.

She played four years pro basketball, but it's Steph Curry.

She's Steph Curry.

She's doing things.

She's running.

She's hitting shots.

She's hitting half court shots or just inside half court shots at ease.

I have to like heave it to get it that far.

Yeah.

And her teammates are awesome, too.

This year, the team is like...

Yeah, Leah Boston, obviously great.

Kelsey Mitchell.

DeWanna Bonner.

Yeah.

She just became a record holder.

Yeah,

third all-time leading scorer.

Yeah, they've got a good team.

New coach, Stephanie White, I believe is her name.

She's from Indiana.

From Connecticut, yeah, Connecticut's son, former head coach.

Yeah, now she's from Indiana.

She's back here, coaching team.

It's like, it's like, I think it's worth in that place, it will be packed out.

Yeah.

Place every place that she goes to, packed out.

She's like the Beatles.

She is literally the Beatles.

They're going to bigger venues so that she can come to town.

Now, congrats on WNBA.

I hope you have a good time tonight.

Because you sucked with the unduffable.

I am not committing to anything in August, and that's great news.

But D-Button AJ will definitely be there, Bubba.

Perfect.

Let's do it.

All right.

It'll be more fun with them anyway.

Fuck off.

Baba, hold on.

Baba.

Unduffable.

Oh, here it is.

Get the slot.

You should just blast one.

There it is.

No, it would be cat.

That's so far right.

You should just fucking blast one.

You won't do it.

Trying to hit this camera that's looking right at you.

Hit that camera.

What am I?

Front foot here, right?

Yeah, you want to miss left.

You don't want to miss right.

You're here.

You're here with it.

You got to come.

Who?

You're here with it.

You got to come across your body.

Got to get them hips to move, man.

They look tight.

Just fuck up the face.

This is Aaron Ridge.

You got to go up there.

Aim for the net.

No, you got it.

Just see it.

Yeah, yeah.

Right into the crow's nest.

Where are you going with it?

Yeah, crow's nest.

He's trying to go over that camera.

I'm zooming out of the camera?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Oh, that's easy.

Malarkey.

Yeah.

Just blast it.

Front football.

Yeah.

You gotta practice with me.

Send this thing.

Oh, my gosh.

Boom.

That was a heck of a shot.

Good.

That was great.

Good contact.

Yeah, you're not.

No, you don't know me.

You don't know me.

That's good as the unduffable.

Yeah.

And it works.

Tight lines, dude.

I don't see a hole either.

Maybe I'm back.

Uh-oh.

Uh-oh.

When's the qualifier for your Tox's league?

When's the qualifier for your guys?

It's in December.

All right, I got time.

Okay.

Time to a football season.

That's going to be tough.

What day of the week?

Monday.

Okay.

Before Monday night football in December, playoff football.

I qualify for a golf league.

Let's go, Foxy.

Let's go.

Is it still raining outside?

Still raining outside?

You're not a golfer if you're worried about the weather, man.

Okay, so we got two holes out back.

Thanks.

Can't wait to see you hit them.

Can I ask Bubba on that?

You got a golf course across the street, too?

Yeah.

Who's got a question?

Sorry.

Foxy does.

I'm sorry.

Yeah, this is actually a selfish question on that note, Bubba.

Let's say you're 75 yards out.

All right.

Pretty straight shot.

Pretty simple, straightforward.

How many balls is it going to take you to make one shot?

Because I've been doing this for about eight months back there, and I can't make a single one.

Longer than that.

Well, I mean, there's so many factors.

It's going to take me...

How long have you been trying to do it?

Eight months.

Let's say.

I'm going to say four for me then.

Four months?

Yeah.

I thought one day.

I thought a couple months.

Am I known for my dirty ball?

How many hole in ones do you have?

You're known for being a dog.

Six.

Six hole in ones?

In competition or in practice?

Total.

A couple in competition, but total of six.

First one was how old?

It was 2010.

When did you start playing?

When I was six.

Jesus.

I got no shot.

No.

I've got six since he's six years old.

Nine, nine live.

Bruce.

Bruce had one his first year of playing.

My dad could barely break a hundred, and he had one with a three-wood from 189.

Sliced a three-wood in there, and he used to run his mouth to me all the time about how I got a hole in one.

Did it count on part three courses?

Yeah, it counts anytime you make a hole in one.

On a sim?

Yeah, because the sims are hard to make one.

You make one on a sim?

Fish bomb.

X-Golf.

Congratulations.

Had a witness, too.

Congrats.

Where was it at?

Here, Noblesville, X-Golf.

X-Golf, yeah, yeah.

I know about it.

Yeah.

Pretty solid.

Yeah, he's actually an investor in X-Golf.

Bubba told me it counts.

It definitely does.

What if you're just hitting 100 shots from one T-box at a hole?

Is that more of a chip-in or a hole in one?

No,

well, if it's not a real golf course, it doesn't count as a hole.

Oh, it is a real golf course.

Thank you.

Please, it's outside back here.

Thunderdome golf course.

Yeah, it's two holes.

there's a t-box two holes one t-box we get tired after two we gotta look and we're not walking to here he is here he is here he is

that was yesterday was it really yes every day he has one of those golf gods are not blessing old foxes no not at all how many we get the greens master out of here small bucket is about 50 those greens those greens got craters and it looks like the fake moon yeah i think the turf needs grass uh sand i'll get savvy russ on it we need to get those trees with guy's name's russ green Hands hands Greens, Celebrities Greens.

He's great.

He came out here two days, had the boys on it.

We really got we got two back here.

Gosh, we got two back here, Bubba.

That's the I know.

I saw him when you came in.

All right, quickly.

So you're going to hit something?

Sweet.

You have your clubs?

No, but I can.

Yeah, I think I do actually.

We just landed.

So, yeah, I got them.

Okay.

Boom.

All right, that's where we're headed.

Look for a video here in a matter of moments of Bubba probably putting one in here, if I had to guess.

Quick predictions.

Tonight's games, NHL.

Panthers, Hurricanes.

Panthers.

Yes.

Timberwolves, Thunder.

Oh, my gosh.

This is a good one.

I don't want to say it, but I'm going to say it.

I think it's going to be Timberwolves.

Yep.

Okay.

That's in Oklahoma City.

Yeah.

Oh, it was.

Anthony Edwards is

a beast.

He's a dog.

It's a real deal.

I'm not saying that Oklahoma City doesn't have a dog, but he is.

This guy's on fire.

I'm telling you, he's kin to Michael Jordan somehow.

He's awesome to watch.

He look alike.

And they play.

They jump alike.

Yeah, he is.

And

he is an old school player.

You know, you talked to J.R.

Smith talked to us golfer.

J.R.

Smith.

He's trying to...

He went back to college, Joe.

Yeah, he's in college currently.

He's a senior.

He's captain of the team, I think.

He's trying to get down to a zero.

He said by the end of the season, he'll probably be scratch golfer or whatever, trying to qualify for the U.S.

Open.

He absolutely loves the game.

He said for Anthony Edwards, like they need to just let him do mid-range, take to the rack, do whatever the hell he wants, as opposed to overcoaching him.

He's like an old school player.

I think that's why all the OGs love Anthony Edwards.

And I think that's why we, competitors, athletes, love Anthony Edwards, too.

It's like he's a dog.

He can lead that team.

Yeah.

But that Oklahoma City place.

Randall's not too bad either, though.

Randall's helped him out.

Randall's helped him out quite a bit.

Let's go to the Knicks fan, Matt Brown.

Hey, Bruce, how do we feel about Julius Randall playing for the Minnesota Timberwolves?

Absolutely love him.

He's one of my favorite Knicks players of all time.

He came here when no free agents wanted to go to the New York Knicks, and he basically built us into what we are today.

I wish nothing but the best for him.

And I do think that as a number two option behind Ann Edwards, they they can take the thunder to seven games and maybe get it done okay we got even a prediction from bruce i like that i like everything about that uh how do you feel about pacers nicks

i'm going pacers and the reason why i'm going pacers august 15th live event out here because of because

haliburton is is unbelievable like it's unorthodox it doesn't look right but it's it gets done yes yeah it's unbelievable he's flashy yeah flashy runs showman he's got merch of wwshop.com right now but it reminds me of um hopefully

Sean Marion.

Remember when he used to shoot three-pointers?

It didn't look right, but he's yeah, he would make it.

That's about what it looked like.

Good shot.

That's what it looked like.

He made it.

Did it happen, Bubba?

Right here.

Don't be happy, Bubba.

That's on you.

I can't believe that happened.

That was dumb.

That was

one more Cat Williams, I think.

All right, Bubba.

Hey, Cat Williams.

He's knocking those down.

Yeah, he's got bunches.

Check back, chess pass, splash.

Cat shooter or Cat Cat Williams is a shooter.

He's really.

Yes.

Yes, you better watch me come as a golf.

When's that thing, December?

Did you lower the goal?

No, he's.

Cat Williams, he got him up there.

Was he lethal shooter?

Yeah, isn't he short?

Yes.

That's what I was just asking.

That's a fair question.

No, it's not.

Cat Williams is a beast.

He was with Lethal Shooter.

You know who Lethal Shooter is?

Oh, Bubba.

Content creator.

He's a fuck it.

He would make a

he makes like little gummy bears into like the top of water bottles.

That's how good of a shooter he is.

Really?

Yes.

Real deal.

You should look him up.

I'm going to look him up.

Lethal shooter.

Lethal shooter.

He should focus on golf.

I think he'd probably be able to figure that out.

Sounds like it might be too late.

Who do you think is the best sport that turns into golfers naturally?

Hockey players, I think, very good.

Shooters in basketball, normally pretty good.

Baseball.

Yeah, baseball.

Baseball pitchers.

Smoltze.

Yeah, Smoltzy.

They're always in Attah.

Mark Moltz.

They always have time off.

Roll what?

Once every two weeks?

Good point.

Here's Lethal Shooter's last one.

Toothpick into a straw.

I understand it now.

He misses on purpose.

Then he makes it.

So second try.

It's always.

I understand it now.

Impressive.

Dane does it.

That's unbelievable.

Yeah, lethal shooter.

Welcome to the world.

And we're going to go do a trick shot out back where you're going to make it a 75-yard shot.

Oh, yeah.

In the rain, in the wind.

You're not a real golfer yet.

First take.

Boom.

That'd be awesome.

That would be so cool.

Dude, standing now.

AJ, you think first take for Bubba?

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, I don't know what the conditions are like there, but I assume he can work it out.

It's drizzling.

It's a little breezy.

It was gusted when we came in today.

It's Indiana.

You need to know that for August 15th through 17th, it's going to be windy here.

Yep.

Always windy here in Indiana.

I was a punter drafted out here.

Oh, you were?

Yeah.

So played for the Colts.

Punting, a lot of wind.

Did not know that when I got here, it was just...

Was it indoors?

So we had a dome possibility, but Jim Mercy liked to showcase also that he could take that top off and the window off.

So it actually became a wind tunnel.

So I was considered a dome punter by other punters and kickers, but we potentially had the worst setup in all of football for about three quarters of the season.

So I got the dome in December, which was phenomenal.

Great news.

But it's always windy in Indiana because how flat it is.

So it created the eddy effect, the wind.

Is that what that's called?

Yeah, so at Augusta, when it comes down 13 and goes to 12 and 11, it creates an eddy Eddie effect.

So like sometimes you feel it's downwind and then seconds later it's into the wind.

So that's probably what happened.

Yeah,

Eddie came into Lucas Orl for fucking every time they opened that side window.

Exactly.

The Eddie effect was all about that thing.

Is that eight men you're talking about?

Yeah.

You ever hit a whole one down there?

No.

I made one on a practice round on 16, but I've never made one in the tournament.

Made one in the Par Three tournament.

Did you see that count?

Yeah.

Well, yeah, it's in the tournament.

There's a trophy and and everything.

It counts.

Hell yeah.

I agree.

Yeah.

My son, it was 67 yards, hole four.

My son goes, Dad, you don't have that shot.

One hopped it and knocked it in.

I said, Hey, I got it now.

And he goes,

Just a dramatic.

Yeah, he's like, He needs to do that in every hole.

Exactly.

We need to kick off the badge.

Dad, this ain't it.

This ain't you.

That's the worst hole.

They're forcing you to play this course.

It's not good for your play.

All right, let's get out of here, Bubba.

We appreciate you.

Boys, great work today.

AJ, great work.

Toad over there and hammer.

Dad, God.

Great work.

Boys in the back.

I can't wait to go watch him hit these balls.

Play is Medic Wambaba.

I can't wait to watch this.

Yeah.

Those greens.

Tough greens, brother.

Yeah, they're barely green.

Tough greens.

All right, be a friend, tell a friend something nice might change your life.

We're going to stand together.

Team on me.

Oh,

I didn't know I was part of the team.

You fucking are, buddy.

Aren't you trying to promote team stuff, anyways?

Team on me.

You have anything to say?

No, go goats.

Go goats.

Go goats.

Yeah.

Sacrifice one.

Or two.

Or two.

No.

Fuck it.

Ten of them.

Yeah.

Whatever gets the goats on top.

Whatever that happens.

Team on three.

One, two, three.

Team.

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