PMS 2.0 1395 - Feel The Beat with Jane Slater and Matt Schneidman, Stanford Steve, Dan Orlovsky, Tommy Fleetwood, & AJ Hawk

3h 28m
On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about everything happening in the NFL as final rosters are starting to come together, Adam Thielen was traded to the Minnesota Vikings, the Micah Parsons situation, and look ahead to a massive week 1 College Football slate. Joining the show to feel the beat and chat more about the growing rumors that the Packers have offered a trade to the Cowboys for Micah Parsons and the situation as a whole is Jane Slater for the Cowboys, and Matt Schneidman for the Cowboys. Next, member of College Gameday, ESPN CFB analyst and Swiss Army knife, Stanford Steve joins the show to preview the college football season and dive into an incredible week 1. Later, 12 year NFL veteran at QB, ESPN NFL analyst/QB guru, Dan Orlovsky joins the show to discuss how he missed his flight this morning to guest host the show. Lastly, fresh off a FedEx Cup Championship, PGA Tour star, Tommy Fleetwood joins the progrum to chat about finally breaking the seal on Tour and winning the Tour Championship, his mindset leading up to the final holes, how important the relationship with his caddie his, if he’s going to buy anything special with the $10 million he earned winning the FedEx Cup, becoming an instant enemy with the Ryder Cup around the corner, and more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers.
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Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdog, on this naughty naughter Wednesday, August 27, 2025.

This program begins now.

Football!

It's happening all around us.

And don't look now, tomorrow, massive college football slate.

Don't look now, Saturday, first college game day of the year as Texas travels to Ohio State.

And there's two other top 10 matchups to kick off this glorious college football season.

And then one week from tomorrow, guess what?

Magic.

Oh, you're right.

It's happening.

Yep, it's happening.

There's a banner that's going to be going up

in a city of brotherly love.

There's going to be a football team traveling from Dallas with

its biggest star on the defensive side of the ball.

I don't think so.

Or

without its biggest star on the defensive side of the ball.

We are here.

We have made it.

We are at a time where we obviously look forward to it, and when we're in it, we never appreciate it enough.

But this football season, we're going to look around, we're going to smell the roses, and we're going to say, hey, thank you to football for having its greatest season it has ever had.

With the development of the college football playoff last season, with how big it was, teams that lost still made it.

Teams are going to have hope until the end of the year all around the country.

And in the NFL, I've been told

Scouts,

Scouts Honor,

I don't know which one.

Cub and Boy Scout Honor.

Don't do this one.

Nazi German three.

What's that?

Just do the three.

This one.

Yeah.

Don't do the two.

Okay.

Bill Stewart, rest in peace, coach from West Virginia.

He's also going into the West Virginia Hall of Fame.

That was one of his moves.

Whenever he wanted to really sell something, he would say, Cub, two finger, and scout honor and go ahead and sell it.

I've been told by the football gods, they spoke to me.

I was on a plane for a long time.

Yeah.

Long time over the Pacific.

Way up there.

A lot of islands that I did not know existed.

Sure.

They're out there.

I hope they they had a great time.

A lot of good internet out there.

Not actually.

But I talked to the football gods.

You know, when you're in a tube flying for that long and there's no internet and you're really kind of isolated and you're trying to battle through sleep deprivation and trying to figure out how the schedule is, maybe you do hear from the gods a little bit more up there.

Maybe it is a little bit more peaceful.

The football gods reach out to me.

They said, about to be the greatest season we've ever had.

Here we go.

Here we go.

Huge.

That's a big deal, isn't it?

That's huge.

Because remember last year, beginning of the NFL season, shite.

It was.

Shite.

We're talking about bad games, boring games.

Football is bad.

People are talking about.

College football always electrifying.

College football is always going to be electrifying because the atmospheres are going to carry it, even if the game isn't that great.

But the games have been great.

The atmospheres are amazing.

That's why college football is going to do its thing.

And then the NFL this year, I've been told football gods directly, they're all coming out guns blazing.

That's true.

Every team's going to be in mid-season form.

And the style of football is going to be one that we love.

It's going to be physical style football.

There's going to be people beating each other up.

There's going to be big time hits.

And then we got showcase matchups on the outside between DBs and wide receivers all year long.

and these quarterbacks are getting even better.

These quarterbacks are throwing the ball further.

These quarterbacks are throwing the ball more accurate and these offensive gurus that are calling plays are getting smarter.

And the one in Minnesota just got a weapon back into its lineup.

Adam Thielen traded from Carolina Panthers back on Minnesota Vikings.

Congrats, Adam Thielen.

And congrats to the Minnesota Vikings.

Now, the Carolina Panthers obviously showed a lot of promise at the end of last year.

Bryce Young might not be a bust, right?

Everybody was calling him one, might not be at all.

He might be a guy.

They were calling him Steph Curry of football when he was coming out of of college.

Down Carolina, nothing was really working.

Even the ownership wasn't really going well.

End of last year, they found it.

Adam Thielen, we thought, was going to be a part of the growth and development of the Carolina Panthers.

Instead, he's going back to Minnesota to join the Vikings.

Congrats to all parties.

Feels like Carolina's happy with a fifth round pick and a fourth round pick.

Thielen's going back home.

There was a video of his family celebrating going back home.

Obviously, he's from Minnesota, went to high school in Minnesota.

He actually had to go to a regional tryout to even make it to a tryout.

He had to go to a tryout to make it to a tryout to get into the NFL.

He had to pay his own way into said camp tryout to get a look.

Ends up on the Vikings, becomes a pro bowler, becomes a all-pro, gets a massive deal with Carolina Panthers, has to leave home now towards end of career.

We don't know how many years he has left.

He probably doesn't either.

Heading back to Minnesota in an offense that is really good.

They're restructuring his contract, so obviously he's probably taking a pay cut.

Now he joins Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, J.J.

McCarthy, and Aaron Jones, let alone their tight ends, who are absolute dogs.

They got old buddy that they traded from Detroit.

Hawkinson.

Hawkinson, who's a beast, and also,

who am I missing there?

I apologize to the other guy

that is 100% on me, but this Minnesota Vikings team might be the year for Minnesota to get back into the big dance.

Last year, remember, they were playing in the final week of the season against the Detroit Lions for the number one seed in the NFC.

And this year, they're looking to do the same.

Is J.J.

McCarthy a guy or not?

We shall see.

Everybody that knows him says, yes, he is a guy.

Footage coming out of camp, he is a guy.

They talk about his leadership qualities from whenever he was at Michigan.

He is a guy.

High school, IMG, he is a guy.

So all signs are saying J.J.

McCarthy should be a perfect quarterback for this Minnesota Vikings team.

And if he is, B flow in the defense, great.

Offense just got another weapon.

Kevin O'Connell's still a super genius.

Look out for the Minnesota Vikings in the NFC North, in the NFC, and maybe the whole fucking Super Bowl.

Whoa.

Those are big words, but that's how every team can feel at this moment because no games have been played.

Let's go to the talks with the table at Boston Connor at Ty Schmidt.

Storyline's developing, especially day here.

Everybody's got to make their rosters by four o'clock.

A lot of movement probably taking place today, Connor.

Yeah, a ton of movement, waiver wires.

Everyone's kind of keeping their eyes peeled, looking at that stuff.

Also, I've seen some players, Sam Ellinger, actually, former Colt, he turned down opportunities to stay with Denver.

So it'll be interesting to see what players think, you know, they are suited better on a practice squad versus an actual 53.

But it is the greatest.

This is the best time.

We were even just talking about tomorrow.

And of course, I can't wait for the NFL eight days.

It's going to be incredible.

But even the games tomorrow, like the college football slate on a Thursday when, you know, you're not in.

Nebraska Cincy tomorrow.

Boom.

At Arrow.

Eat that up all day.

Boise State.

Are you kidding me?

USF.

That's a good team from yesterday's past.

Now, their coach from them certainly had a different photo from this weekend, but these games, real games.

Yeah, huge games.

Like last year,

I feel like we were surprised by him almost.

At least I was.

I remember Colorado played on that first Thursday night with Shador and Travis Hunter and I forget who else played, but it almost sneaks up on you.

And then you realize like, oh, this is the beginning of it.

This is the beginning of the, hey, every Thursday night there's going to be a game, weekday games.

It's awesome.

Tosh Schmidt, you scared to death in Minnesota Vikings.

Adam Thielen going back to Minnesota.

Adam Thielen will be joining us in a third hour.

We've been told he's currently on a plane.

Sure.

So So we believe whenever he lands, we will get a phone call from Adam Thielen to get his thoughts.

My eyes, great news for the Minnesota Vikings.

He's going to be a three or a four.

Yeah.

Adam Thielen.

So like that is a good spot to be.

He was the one for Carolina there whenever they weren't playing great and everybody was attacking him.

Oh, this old guy can't do anything.

He was the number one receiver.

He was the guy that all defenses were keening on.

He had four eyes on him whenever he's with the Carolina Panthers team.

Now he's going and he just slips into a rotation and he has that big ass football brain.

I mean, he should be a wizard in a Kevin O'Connell offense, especially

back with the Minnesota, exactly, back with the Minnesota Vikings.

Is Green Bay gonna be okay?

Because the Detroit Lions is the Detroit Lions.

Yep.

Caleb, I saw him.

Hey, that priest.

That first week, people were talking bad.

As I was in Australia, saw some highlights.

Caleb.

Yeah, it's Chiefs, too.

Caleb.

Caleb.

Yeah, absolutely.

And then the Green Bay Packers, I understand.

We still got the stars.

We are the Green Bay Packers.

Jordan Love, guy, already paid.

Are the Packers a little bit worried about the NFC North with how competitive it has been?

No, I don't think so.

What?

You know, the Packers didn't go 6-11 last year.

They made the playoffs, so let's not act like they were picking in the top 10.

They weren't.

And listen, I love this for Thielen.

He's a friend of the show.

We've gotten known him pretty well over the last couple years.

I love that he gets to go back home.

With the Vikings, for me, it's still, you know, like, I hear what I'm hearing about J.J.

McCarthy, and I understand that.

But

talk to me about the Vikings in week five.

You know, that's kind of where I'm at.

And you talk about, you know, all these waiver wire additions, Thielens getting traded.

I don't want to jump the gun here, but the Packers may be making a splash of their own, and it might happen today.

There's

a lot of people in the bars.

I don't know when it's going to happen.

I don't know if it's going to happen, but in my mind, it's happening, and it's happening within the next hour.

With what you're talking about, we will feel the beat today.

We will go to Dallas and we will go to Green Bay.

Smart.

We'll talk to Jane Slater and Schneidman from the athletic up there in Green Bay.

Yeah, everybody's saying that the Green Bay Packers are going to trade for Michael Parsons.

They are saying that.

And they're going to pay him $45 million.

$45 million.

That would be an absurd move to just think about and hypothesize about a few years ago.

But now, Green Bay Packers take Matthew Golden in the first round, wide receiver, place erupts.

All reports out of camp is he's the guy.

Yeah.

If they were to trade for Michael Parsons to Green Bay, Wisconsin, from Dallas, Texas, to that team.

Immediate game record for you guys.

Yes.

Small town, he'd probably, he'd be beloved.

Now, Happy Valley went to Penn State, small town feel as well.

So I'm not saying that he needs to be in a big city or anything like that, but that would be a wild life event for Micah Parsons to go from Dallas in the Cowboys to the Green Bay Packers.

Two very storied tradition teams, obviously.

A lot of history, a lot of greatness, but that would be an insane move to think about.

I'm sure Packers fans even like saying, yeah, Packers are going to trade for a guy that's going to be the highest paid guy in the history of defensive football and give some things up that are very important to the future.

That's not really a Packers thing, is it?

Why does it feel like most Green Bay Packers fans think this is going to happen?

We got people tracking fake planes.

Oh, yeah.

We got private planes being tracked.

People don't know whose planes these are.

But holy shit, there's a plane Dallas Green Bay.

How many people flying Dallas Green Bay?

Nobody.

Green Bay's flying

to Dallas?

It's August 27th.

I mean, I guess this could be Big Mike, you know, going back and forth, you know, from his Dallas house to the ball.

Getting tracked everywhere.

This is what's happening on the internet.

Like,

the thoughts of

this happening feels real to people.

Yeah, I mean, would this be out of character and just absolutely crazy?

Without a doubt, they've had a couple splash trades they've made in the past, like, but Mark Murphy's not there anymore.

We got a new, you know, team president, Ed Policy.

So maybe he wants to make a little bit of a splash.

Oh, there's a new policy around.

Exactly.

And we're looking for stars, not just ones on the side of the helmet, but

he's going to be a Hall of Famer, probably.

If his career continues on the arc that it's been, he's going to be a first-ballot Hall of Famer.

I mean, it just screams Reggie White.

You know, the Packers traded for him.

They couldn't really get, they couldn't actually sack the quarterback.

If you look at all the advanced statistics, it's like, hey, you know, they're getting home a lot.

They create a lot of pressures and things of that nature, but they don't really sack.

They need a guy who can finish.

And Micah can finish.

So if it takes $45 million over the next five years, and it takes three first-round picks, and a second-round pick, and a fourth-round pick.

At this point, that takes me from, hey, I think the Packers will make it to the playoffs, and if they're playing their best, maybe they can.

Five years, $225 million.

Yep.

Two first-rounders.

Yep.

Maybe even three.

Maybe even three.

Do whatever you got to do with the swap.

Pick 32.

Who wants it?

Well, that's my other thing.

If Jordan Love stays healthy, the Packers aren't going to be picking in the top top 10.

So

you shouldn't hold on to those picks thinking like, hey, we're going to be able to get a Micah Parsons at the top of the first round next year.

You're not.

You just probably, that's not going to happen.

So if there's any chance that this can get done, like...

Is there?

See, normally I would say like, this is bullshit, and why am I getting this excited for something like this?

But it's been like this for two weeks now.

And like, it just kind of continues to pick up steam.

And then, you know, like Rapsheet, when he's in here, he says, like, that would be a destination.

Yes, if Dallas were to trade him.

Like, the Packers would be massive players in that.

And then we hear, hey, they actually did a, they submitted an offer to the Cowboys.

Now, Jerry wasn't ready to listen to it, but it's just, it hasn't stopped.

He wasn't ready to listen to it.

I like that that's the way it was worded.

Not that he didn't, like, Jerry didn't listen to it.

He's like, well, he wasn't ready yet to listen to it.

Now we're a little bit further down the road.

Now, Jerry has said that any talks to Trader BS, I believe, on the Stephen A.

Smith show.

Yes.

Whenever he talked to him.

So you got to take that with a grain of salt in the entire conversation.

And then Shoddy, I believe, came out and and said he had conversations with them and they want good.

It's like, okay, what do all these things mean?

We'll talk directly to some people with boots on the ground and see if we can get a little bit more realistic perspective on Micah Parsons getting traded from the Dallas Cowboys to the Green Bay Packers and getting paid $45 million a year in doing so.

That would be insane.

Let's get nutty.

Let's get wild.

Why not?

That Matthew Golden pop at the draft.

Multiply that by 100 if they trade for Micah Parsons.

an entire city might just go to implode on itself We might not we might not even be able to play football next year It's gonna win half of the hammer done Cowboys AP tone tone.

Uh, obviously, we're all hammering Dr.

Pepper.

Yeah, no, any day of the week.

That's a Dr.

Pepper baby.

I mean that is listened to that a few times by the way boys when I was gone.

That should be.

Oh, yeah.

Like, just turned it on while I was showering.

Yeah, it's a great song.

Created a song, a couple of them, a lot of them.

It's a whole new thing.

It is wild to be alive right now.

Just know that we got a potential Dr.

Pepper banger sitting

in back pocket right now.

Got to run it through the channels.

Obviously, that's business-based.

The bones, though.

It's more than

there's some meat on it.

There's a metal bones.

We are the dumbest company in the history, which once again, shout out to you boys being able to just continue without

a hitch.

Is that right?

Yeah, continue without a hitch.

A couple here.

A bunch of hitches.

No, no, but that would be what people would say.

Yeah, that's what they would say.

From my perspective, outside looking in and also fans' perspective, you guys went off without a hitch.

Thank you for doing that.

But I was listening to that song a few different times and I just thought to myself, we have the dumbest company of all time.

And to the people that came in here and guest hosted, we can't thank you enough.

I'm so appreciative of the dudes who spent time out of their life to come here and hope and help make this show operate.

You guys are the coolest people.

Like showing up for me and for us whenever we needed it.

Very cool thing.

We'll have Dan Orlovsky on in the second hour Nice.

1.40

p.m.

Eastern.

He'll be joining us.

He'll be live at his house, I think.

He's not here.

I thought he was.

He was going to come out to potentially because I wasn't going to have a voice.

What you can hear from my voice is I was a drill instructor.

Shout out to the baddest motherfuckers on earth, drill instructors for the Marines.

Down there in Paris Island, I got to watch them.

They're also out in San Diego, which is, you know, if you join the Marines out of high school or whenever, your boot camp, if you're east of the Mississippi, is Parris Island.

West of the Mississippi is down there in San San Diego.

And you're talking about two legendary places.

And I got a chance to go down to Parris Island, if you do recall, right after TST, during TST, and just kind of watch these drill instructors operate.

You're talking about just badass.

These dudes are sleeping three hours a day, 13-week.

regiments they're on with these platoons and it's their job to turn them into marines they are the culture of the marines you're talking about 0400 lights lights lights that's 4 a.m all the way till a 9 p.m uh lights or 8 p.m lights at night then they have to write up a recap of each day you're not sleeping at all and you're also

on them.

Okay.

This is a, you are becoming a warrior here type of mission because the Marines are the first to fight.

So if anything's happening, Marines are in there.

There's 10x the amount of people in the army than there is in the Marines.

And after getting a chance to watch how they are built down there at Paris Island, I am thankful that they are still around.

You know, we start to wonder, like,

Do we still got it?

You know, because you watch what's happening in other places and you think to yourself, that could, there's a time in history where we were, that was us.

We were in that.

Like, that is always a looming possibility in the world that we live in.

None of us want it to be.

Okay.

We all want to live in a world where that is not an actuality.

We all want to live in a time, and hopefully my lifespan, it'll happen, certainly in my daughter's, where everybody gets along.

Like we would definitely want that.

But that's just not the reality of the situation.

And you don't have to be, you know, I understand that there's a lot of people who are super anti-war.

Nobody's pro-war.

I am not a pro-war person, but being pro-warrior is okay because a lot of people that we know were the people that were signing up for these types of missions.

A lot of people signing up for the military, you know, come from blue-collar families.

A lot of people signing up for that don't really have a lot of opportunity.

A lot of people from the middle of America.

A lot of people, you know, it's just like.

We have a lot of respect for the military.

I've done a lot of work with the military.

I respect and appreciate the shit out of the warriors that go out there.

And after learning about these drilling structures, it's like an insane just psychologist you have to be.

Plus, you have to be able to have more energy than every other human.

And you're setting the tone for basically the United States military.

It is a insane opportunity that I got offered.

I'm so incredibly thankful for.

But boy, there's a lot of,

you know, there's a lot of screaming.

There's a lot of

so I knew, especially with football starting, when I was getting back, it was like, hey, there's going to be a couple days there where my voice probably going to be completely shot.

I FaceTime with you guys a couple different times throughout there in between days of shooting.

It's like I had absolutely

no voice.

couldn't even talk.

Went to a restaurant there that people thought I was drunk.

People thought I was drunk because my voice was so shot and I might have found a vitamin or two.

And they don't even know what that looks like down there.

Oh, sure.

So they thought I was drunk.

Like, hey, you're way too drunk.

Listen to the way you sound in your eyes.

And I'm like.

I'm a drill instructor in a movie.

I just lost my voice.

And I had some vitamins that are, you don't even know what that means here because you guys don't even like the thing.

But I promise I've not even had one drink.

I might go have one again.

You guys have a whiskey that could maybe soothe this entire thing.

So Orlovsky was going to go.

Sure.

And that was very, very cool of Orlovsky doing that.

Of course.

Missed his flight this way.

Oh,

damn.

Thank God.

But I am thankful because I get a chance to be back in here with you boys and on the show.

I've missed this so much, chit-chatting about sports, and I've learned a lot from watching the other hosts of this show.

I think there was a lot of great that happened while I was gone.

And I think this football season is going to be electrifying.

Now, AP Tone, whenever we think about gambling here in this first weekend of college football, is it North Carolina TCU under?

Is that the biggest bet that we are laying here week one?

56, I believe, and a half is the over-under for a Bill Belichick coached UNC team in their debut against TCU on Monday night in Chapel Hill.

We have no idea how the UNC team's going to do this year.

We have no idea how anybody's going to do this year.

I assume, though, these Bill Belichick's games are going to be low-scoring games.

If I had to guess, do you feel the same way or what should we be looking at when we're looking at these spreads?

Yeah, you would think just knowing Bill Belichick that and all that roster turnover and not knowing what he's going to have in offense that he's going to try to drag at least these early games into the mud.

He's probably never, ever, ever even seen a total reach 50s probably for one of his games in the NFL.

So this is something that he is probably unaware of, that he has no idea about.

But yeah, he's going to drag these things into the mud.

But like as far as like

the Texas Ohio State game, I think that could potentially be another low scoring early game game just because it's two relatively new quarterbacks working in now, not new quarterbacks to the universities.

They've been there for multiple years, but as starting quarterbacks, maybe they're offensive coordinators, you know, take it slow.

But I always like to look these first couple weeks, week one, week two, of teams that are returning a lot of guys, a lot of continuity from last year versus, because I mean, the transfer portal is a thing.

It wasn't as active as it was the last couple years, but it's still a thing where there's a lot of teams that are losing a lot of players versus teams that are bringing guys back.

West Virginia got 70 new players.

Yeah.

And a lot.

They're not the only team.

North Carolina has 75 teams or 75 players as well.

If they gel quickly, great.

But you have no idea if that's the case until the pads actually start flying.

Good luck to all the teams.

We can't wait to watch them.

A couple breaking news things here out of the NFL.

Kyle Hamilton has signed an $82 million guaranteed deal with the Baltimore Ravens, $100.4 million in total.

Congratulations to him.

He's a beast.

And

just yesterday, I believe Coach Chuck Bogano was giving a press conference about Kyle Hamilton and his greatness.

And he mentioned about how, you know, it's very reminiscent of a guy that used to play here named Ed Reid.

And everybody knows who Ed Reid is because Ed Reed is one of the greatest football players to ever exist.

He's one of the most electrifying humans to ever exist.

And he has some of the biggest plays in the history of football.

But everybody talks about him just being an absolute nightmare on the field because he seemingly knew everything that was going to happen.

And when he got there, he was going to thump.

Oh, yeah.

He also blocked like 50 kicks.

He also has a couple kick returns.

And he just seemed to be smarter than everybody.

And Chuck McGono just pointed out, like, everybody thinks that that's a natural thing.

It's like, no, the amount of work you got to put in, preparation, the amount of film you got to do to get to that point is what separates these people.

And he said, Kyle Hamilton, same guy.

The amount of preparation that he puts in, everything like that is very reminiscent to Hall of Famers that have come before him.

And then we watch him on the field.

He's the one.

He is Neo.

He is everywhere out there.

That AFC North has a history of great safeties.

Obviously, Ed, Troy Paul Molly was there.

Kyle Hamilton seems like the most recent one of a Hall of Fame safety, especially for this Baltimore Ravens defense that hunts.

They get after it.

And they're going to have to if they want to win a Super Bowl, which is what everybody in Baltimore is hoping for and thinking can happen.

Yeah, especially with the additions they made.

You know, like you, you forget that they have DeAndre Hopkins now on the offense, let alone how good their defense is.

And, you know, Baltimore falls into the same conversation, I feel like Buffalo does.

Every year, they're going to have an unbelievable team.

They're going to have a stud at quarterback.

And now that they have, you know, a D-hop, a legitimate guy on the outside, Zay Flowers, Derrick Henry, like we're talking about, what, one of those three, four teams, I guess you could probably maybe say five that are really in it to win the Super Bowl.

I think they're the shortest odds to win the whole thing.

So that says a lot about their team, too.

It's just Baltimore's got to be close.

Those fans got to be thinking, just like Buffalo, hey, it's got to be this year.

So close.

Butta.

is losing his mind.

Yeah, his mind.

Yeah, Budda has got to be going absolutely crazy right now.

How much money we pay?

He deserves more.

Yeah.

Everybody on their team seemingly deserves more.

They have stars all over the place

for that Baltimore Ravens team.

I can't wait to watch him all season, and I cannot wait to watch this Baltimore Ravens team.

Congrats to Kyle Hamilton.

You deserved it.

Now, ladies and gentlemen, the world deserves to know what the hell is going on in certain places.

It's time to feel the beat.

Ladies and gentlemen, joining us live from Dallas.

Obviously, you've seen her on NFL Network.

She's a legend.

She also fills in and hosts for the Emmy Award-winning Good Morning Football.

She's a Texas alumni, golf aficionado.

Ladies and gentlemen, Jane Slater.

Jane, we're feeling the beat.

Hope you're feeling the same over there.

Good to see you.

Thank you for joining us.

Oh, no.

She's muted.

She's muted.

Hold on.

I'm muted, Jeff.

You're muted, Jane.

Is that on our end?

Is that on RN?

Is that

this is why I don't get the call.

It was our fault.

It was our fault.

We assume we messed that up, but we appreciate you for joining us.

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Great to see you.

Thank you for joining us.

I'm doing good.

I'd be a lot better if this micah thing would get some sort of resolution.

Was losing a little bit of sleep last night because while I still feel confident this thing's going to get done,

we've got to pay some attention to some of these content aggregators out there, these content creators, because you just never know where scooped they're coming from.

When I worked here locally, covered the Rangers, and Daniel Murphy's daughter told a preschool teacher that he was going to be an Indian and he went off to Cleveland.

So you have to run them all down.

But I don't know if it's apathy at this point or people are just fatigued with the story.

And I've certainly been texting a lot of my sources like a crazy ex the last couple of weeks.

But

all I'll say is they are moving a little differently right now.

Everyone is.

And my only, and I know you guys love conspiracy theories.

So do I.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

My conspiracy theory on this is maybe this is a rumor that the Cowboys are leaning into a little bit to make Micah Parsons uncomfortable enough to come to Jerry, kiss the ring, and try and get this thing done.

Yeah, we're turning to work into a shoot, brother.

There is a chance that maybe it wasn't something real.

And then with how loud it got, now they're starting to actually explore it.

Both Micah never wanted to leave Dallas, then it starts getting loud and people are like, Micah deserves to get paid.

And then Micah's reading and hearing that people in Green Bay are like, give him 45 million a year.

Trade three first rounders for this guy.

We would love to have him in Green Bay.

And in Dallas, it doesn't seem like it's going like that.

He's obviously laying on the training table only for a few moments.

That gets spun into a massive story.

Jerry Jones saying, you know, there's been times I paid a guy and he fucking died.

Like it is just, it has seemingly got to a point where it is not good.

You know, is that how it feels there?

Am I just looking from afar?

I was literally the furthest you could be away from this story the last 10 days in Australia following along, but it feels like it's not good and it hasn't gotten better.

Is there a realistic chance?

Even though Jerry said, don't listen to any trade BS, is there a realistic chance that the Green Bay Packers trade for Micah Parsons?

In your heart of hearts, Jane, do you think there's any chance that's real?

Listen, I think there's certainly an interest from teams out there that could use someone that's lined up all over the field, except for, I think, cornerback.

He's been at safety, he's been at linebacker, he's been at defensive end, which is why there's the whole

dispute going over what the fifth-year tag should be, whether that should be linebacker or defensive end.

It's all gotten

more so.

Even more scared.

And he's hearing people from Green Bay.

And now, who knows what Ed Policy's saying?

I assume it's something similar.

Green Bay Packers fan this morning, Ty Schmidt, I think is speaking for the entire cheese head world.

I think so.

Give them 50 million a year.

We do not, that is, so Micah has to be seeing that there's other places that I've done nothing for.

I have not shown up every single day for.

I've not wrecked games for.

I have never been in these people's community.

I've done nothing.

And they're wanting to give me the world.

And then here I am.

They're trying to put me at Mike linebacker as opposed to defensive end whenever it comes to paydays.

It's like you could see how Micah maybe at the beginning of this wasn't on board with anywhere but Dallas.

And this was potentially a leverage play.

And then as it continues to grow, there's a chance

we should maybe start sniffing around.

Jerry wouldn't turn over, though, right?

He would stay.

Here's what I think on this.

If they were going to trade him, they should have done it before the draft.

And I will tell you, two years ago, they sort of kicked it around in the building.

And people would say, well, why would they kick it around the building?

Micah is not that player that gets in trouble off the field.

He's more of,

I guess, it's described as a nuisance, which I think, you know, to fan bases like the Packers, they would take a nuisance all day, right?

But I'm, it's more nuanced than that in Dallas.

I do think that, you know, the laying on the training table, even though it was for a little bit, it's just those little things.

It's the body language during the games.

And if you're not careful, this can really create a situation in the locker room.

Now, with that being said, we've seen this with Ezekiel Elliott.

We saw it with CeeDee Lamb.

Happy one-year anniversary to CeeDee Lamb signing and returning to the Cowboys after a holdout.

Zeke wanted his contract done two years ahead of time.

They signed him four days before the Giants came.

Dak Prescott got done on September 10th.

I think the game was on the 12th when he got his extension.

I think the only difference here, at least on this one, is Jerry feels so adamant that they negotiated over a course of two days, looked each other in the eye, man to man

and made a decision on APY and what the guaranteed money is.

But the problem with that is I represented myself in my contract this last year.

You typically talk about it in generalities.

They then send you an offer sheet that you basically sign off.

It's not an official contract yet.

Then it goes to the legal department.

You redline it.

Then it's official.

And so for Jerry to hold Micah

to a precedent that you haven't done in Dallas before just seems seems so odd to me.

And we haven't seen it, and he admitted it to me when I asked Jerry, has there been an offer sheet extended?

And there hasn't.

But I have to wonder with now it being a distraction a bit, are people in the building say, Jerry, it would be negligent of us to not at least consider the generational haul that could be Micah Parsons.

And whether that's a reality right now or not, or if they're using it as a stalling technique to make Micah a little uncomfortable, they are moving a little bit differently around there.

And as much as Micah has said he wants to be traded, he's got to think, and I know Jerry uses this in negotiations and it's annoying, but it's true.

What comes with the star on your helmet versus playing for the Green Bay Packers?

No disrespect for the people up at Appleton.

Yeah, Green Bay Packers sell out every stadium they go to, but you're right.

Dallas business, I assume, much kinder to the Dallas Cowboys players with deals and contracts around pan than maybe in Green Bay or anywhere else, I would assume, because Jerry is a phenomenal businessman.

And we've heard him say, you know, when there's nothing being talked about, I'll fucking stir it up a little bit.

And everybody's like, Jerry, that's what we're talking about.

We don't need to stir it up.

We're trying to win a football game, you know, and it's like, how has everybody kind of viewed it?

Which leads to what Tone wants to ask you, Jane.

Yeah, I do.

I wanted to ask you, Jane, how does the locker room feel about the whole situation?

Have any of the players talked about it?

Has there been any rumblings, whether they have chosen sides?

What's the situation within the building?

Well, I think a number of these players have gone through these contract disputes on their own.

They understand sort of the stomach metal that's required to stand toe-to-toe with the Joneses.

I mean, the fact that Micah walked in and handed it to Stephen Jones, this official trade request, and then showed up every day at practice, says he has back tightness.

MRI clears him.

I think even secretly, maybe Jerry Jones respects it a little bit, some of the metal there.

But I would say that players, at least publicly, are going to tell you.

He lied about his back.

He was great.

It was awesome.

I didn't say it.

I didn't say it.

But they'll say, at least publicly, that they support the guy getting the business done.

But I got to think at some point they're tired of talking about it and they just want to focus on the game and moving forward.

I mean, certainly on defense, run defense was an issue last year.

You've got a new defense with Matt Uberflus.

They've got a lot of other things they need to focus on.

And Trayvon Diggs is one of his best friends.

Trayvon is tracking to come back, at least in the first, I would say, maybe week three or week four.

I got to think that he wants Micah there.

Micah is a big ally for Trayvon Diggs in that locker room.

All right.

I think all of Dallas is hoping that Micah will be there, but boy, all the Green Bay is hoping the same thing, it sounds like.

And they're not the only one.

I think if other teams are hearing that this is potentially a possibility, last question here.

George Pickens obviously traded over to the Dallas Cowboys.

How's that going?

I love it.

And I, you know, look, I think sometimes people just need different

environments to thrive.

I don't know about you guys.

There have been places I've been, it just hasn't worked.

Since he's come in, seeing the way that he and CeeDee Lamb have sort of fed off of each other, and I think the way that he's been embraced just in the Dallas community, I mean, everyone was so hungry at camp last year when you didn't have CeeDee Lamb.

You didn't have Des Bryant to have two huge playmakers.

I just think.

I'm still not sure about the running game yet in Dallas.

And Brian Schottenheimer I know wants to establish a run, have a more balanced offense.

I think it's going to be hard to stay away from targeting George Pickens and CeeDee Lamb because, from what we've seen at camp, and, you know, they'll tell you in the preseason they're not showing you anything.

We didn't see them in the preseason.

I think it's going to be really, really hard not to go to those guys.

So I'm excited for George Pickens.

And my interactions with him have not been the same as what's been described in Pittsburgh.

I've had friends tell me, you know, don't be fooled, but we'll see.

I mean, oh, we just said it.

I find him great to work with.

New vibes, new everything.

He's a great talent.

And I hope it ends up working out down there.

It would be great for the entire NFL.

We appreciate the hell out of you.

Good luck this season.

You're going to crush it.

Thank you, guys.

Ladies and gentlemen, James.

All right, well, let's go to the other side of the story.

Let's, ladies and gentlemen, let's feel the V.

I got winded last time.

Almost could have introduced Jane.

First one of the season.

Yeah.

First one in a long time.

Yeah.

We got to go boots on the ground.

That's why we got to feel the bead.

The bead is on the fields in which the games and the practices are being played.

Let's go to those fields.

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Yeah.

Right?

Yeah, absolutely.

I think it's good.

He needs to keep an eye out.

Uh-oh.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Uh-oh.

Anybody with your head on this?

Gotta move.

He's also a Packers insider, and he's on 97.3, the game.

Ladies and gentlemen, Master Nine.

Yay!

What up, man?

How you guys doing?

I like the football coming out of your head.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Yeah.

On the left side.

I didn't see that.

Yeah, it looks like, you know, whenever you go into a restaurant and they got like the car crashed in, which is like the ass end of the thing?

During a Halloween decoration where the witch's legs are out the back.

Boom.

Yeah.

It looks like a football was thrown into his head.

Yeah.

And he just, his head caught it.

Yep.

And then now he's just kind of going about it.

I like that.

Look like you're a football head, dude.

Always thinking about ball.

Always, ball.

Ball's online.

Yeah.

Literally.

Yep.

Amen.

Great to be back.

Come on.

Yeah.

Come on.

That's Klein.

Sorry.

We will get back to this.

We just talked to Jane about Micah.

Ty came on the show earlier, sent him three ones, gave him $45 million a year.

Let's get Micah to Green Bay, Wisconsin.

How is that conversation there?

Is it a reality?

Like, what are the thoughts on that becoming a thing for the people that actually know what's going on over there like yourself?

Yeah, I think right now, to my knowledge, Jerry's not even listening to trade offers.

So I'm not sure that an actual trade offer can be made unless he picks up the phone.

So the Packers may have, you know, an outline of what they would offer.

But if Jerry Jones isn't listening to legitimate trade offers, then I'm not sure that one is technically on the table.

It's semantics, but if he does entertain it, from what I've heard, the Packers will be interested and will be in the mix, which, look, it's information, but it's not a surprise.

If you think back to 2018, and Ty knows this,

the Packers aren't

normally in the mix on these big-name trades, and you don't really always see them get in the mix around the trade deadline.

But the Packers finished second place to the Bears for Khalil Mack in 2018, and they were barely outbid.

Brian Gudekundz, a couple times in his career, that being the biggest instance, has been willing to offer a first-round pick for a veteran player.

In some instances, it just hasn't panned out and other teams have outbid them.

So this is kind of an eerily similar situation where it's right before the season, as the Khalil Mack trade was.

It's for a edge rusher in the prime of his career, and it would really take the Packers to the next level.

What would it it take if this were to become a reality?

It would be multiple first-round picks at least, and I think a player like a wide receiver.

I'm not sure they would have to give up any edge rushers, but it might be a player like a Romeo Dobbs or a Dontavian Wicks, plus a couple of first-round picks and maybe more draft capital later in the draft.

And if you give away a couple first-round picks, obviously you're making the move so that you're very late in the first round.

So is it actually an early second round depending upon the draft class and how everybody's ranked?

If you can win, I think every fan is like, let's make the play.

And you talked about Guntguntz potentially being in on this before.

Can they handle it?

Can they handle a $45 million salary?

How does that kind of look going forward?

Because they've already paid Jordan, right?

So is that beneficial or not beneficial for this type of thing?

Yeah, they can fit it.

I mean, their third highest cap number on the team this year was Jair Alexander, and they freed up a bunch of space by releasing him.

The two highest are Jordan and Rashawn Gary, I think.

So financially, it's the cop-out answer, but there's always a way to make it work, and they figure out how to make it work.

I do think it's interesting.

I'm not sure how much this affects things if negotiations do happen.

David Mulligetta represents the most important player for the Packers on offense and on defense, and he obviously represents Micah Parsons, too.

That's crazy.

Mulligett will get a deal.

If there's a deal to get done, Mulligetta will get it done and his client will win.

On that note, Ty is a question for you.

Yeah, Schnitz, I think everyone probably assumes that LaFleur and Gouda Kuntz will get re-upped here shortly just because the Packers have been pretty successful over their run and they've made the playoffs.

But is there any thought with Ed Polise coming in and it not being Mark Murphy there anymore and kind of it being a little bit of a new regime?

Is this in any way maybe like kind of a prove-it year for both LaFleur and Goudekunst if the Packers kind of, I don't want to say fall flat, but don't kind of do what a lot of people expect them to do?

Yeah, so we sat down with Ed Policy, just the local writers, a couple weeks ago, and he said he's not extending LaFleur and Goudekuntz now.

LaFleur and Goudekuntz both have two years left on their contracts.

This is Goody's eighth year, LaFleur's seventh.

He said he also doesn't want them in contract years.

So basically, he would like to make a decision one way or the other after this season.

My take coming out of that was, okay, he's leaning toward extending them.

Sure, LaFleur and Goody are not Ed's guys, technically, but Ed has been here since 2012.

He served on the hiring panel for Matt LaFleur.

He negotiated the contracts for LaFleur and Goudicunts as the Packers' general counsel.

But there is something to be said for wanting to make your mark and

viewing things differently than maybe Mark Murphy did.

So I spoke to someone recently and was told that he's truly up in the air about the futures of Matt LaFleur and Brian Guticunds.

So I might have been wrong in my initial read.

Look, if the Packers don't make the playoffs this year, which I don't think happens, but it's a possibility, I could certainly see Matt LaFleur and Brian Goudekuntz, and I don't think this is hyperbole, both getting fired after this year.

Now, if they make the playoffs, say, lose in the first round again, it could be something where Ed lets them go into a contract year because he needs to see more.

If they go further in the playoffs, they'll probably get extended.

So my takeaway from that is it's very much up in the air, and their jobs, again, I don't think this is dramatic to say, are very much in the balance when it comes to how the team does this season.

That's pretty, I mean, you said not dramatic.

I think it's pretty dramatic.

That'd be a huge change.

that'd be a huge change for the Green Bay Packers, especially with how it all.

I like the policies coming in with his own policies.

Yeah, me too.

I like that Ed's just like, you know what?

New policy in time.

That's policy football.

What I said.

Yeah.

What Mark said, cool, that's Murphy's law.

All right.

Yes.

Ed's got policies, and these are them.

You win, or I'm sick of watching it.

I like that.

Yeah.

I like that a lot.

Now, I don't know how much he had to do with the pick over there in Green Bay this year because the place lit up in in a big way.

It was fun to be in that city whenever that draft pick was announced.

Go ahead, Conman.

Yeah, Schneider's Ty kind of threw in Dobbs there for the trade for Micah, you know, and with Golden being the number one and, you know, Watson, Jaden Reed, it feels like that wide receiver room is kind of stacked.

How has it been as a whole for Golden, assuming he's the number one receiver here?

And what is kind of the wide receiver room looking like and shaping up to be for the pack?

Yeah, I don't want to crown the kid before he's ever played in an NFL game,

and I've certainly been victim to overreacting to things in training camp before in my now seven years covering the team.

But Matthew Golden looks like the team's best receiver from the past month that we've been watching.

He looks every bit a first-round pick.

As you guys all know, they couldn't catch a pass to save their lives last year.

Matthew Golden has caught pretty much everything.

Christian Watson is going to be out at least the first four weeks.

He tore his ACL in week 18.

They think he's going to want to play play in week, well, they have a bye week five, but they think he'll want to play in week six.

I don't think they'll let him.

And then Jaden Reed, Savion Williams, their rookie third-round pick receiver out of TCU, and Wicks are all dealing with injuries right now.

So it's pretty much Romeo Dobbs, Matthew Golden, and Malik Heath, who's their number six wide receiver when everyone's healthy.

Yeah, Malik.

He's a dog.

We're in trouble.

You know, well, think about all the Packers fans going,

that will be sweet.

It was cool, trust me.

Yeah, whenever Heath Miller was on the stage, it was so cool.

Because the Steelers fans travel, so it'd be other stadiums.

You guys could do the same thing with Malik, number three wide receiver for you guys.

We could, or we could do like Micah.

I think that'd be a little bit better.

Is he playing wide receiver for you?

Maybe.

Maybe he could.

I'd be open to that.

You said Dobbs can go.

He's the only healthy guy you got other than Golden.

Well, yeah.

I mean, if we're getting Micah, and maybe we don't.

Has Jordan throwing it to himself?

That's something we don't know right now.

has micah went to jerry and said hey let me get a couple of snaps in the slot and jerry's like micah shut up you just don't you know we don't know so maybe micah wants jj watt for able exactly yeah a couple tugs turned down for parsons yeah

why not do that on the frozen tundra um you you mentioned golden how he's by far been the best wide receiver you guys have uh I think that is what people would describe as like first-round qualities.

Do you watch him and think to yourself, maybe we should have pulled the trigger on a first-round wide receiver before when we had like Aaron as our quarterback and he's one of the greatest ball throwers of all time?

Maybe if we would have got a guy who could run a 4-3,

it would have done a little, maybe even with Jordy, with how good Jordy was, or even with Devontae, add in one of those.

Is there any of those thoughts?

Like, hey, this is really cool that we did this.

Don't want to be a negative Nance here.

I am a journalist.

Why didn't we

was there?

Is there any of of that going on while you're watching Matthew?

Once again, hasn't played a single down.

We understand that.

But watching him on the field, it's like, that's a first-rounder.

You can clearly tell, right?

Yeah, absolutely.

And look,

this might seem like a cop-out answer, but the Packers not drafting a first-round receiver, at least under Brian Goodekuntz, has not been for necessarily a lack of trying.

I don't know.

If I've said this on here before, but I've certainly written it.

In 2020, before they drafted Jordan Love, Brian Goodekuntz, and he's told me this on the record, they tried to trade up for a wide receiver.

He didn't name who, but Brandon Ayuk and Justin Jefferson were both picked a couple picks before Jordan Love.

I would imagine it was one of those two.

So the Packers actually tried trading up for a wide receiver in that 2020 draft.

You've mad.

Obviously, the Niners and Vikings.

No, I can't.

In Devontae.

Instead of Jordan Love's situation.

No, Jordan Love, obviously, good for the future.

Yes.

Good for the current.

And Gutkuntz can certainly look back at all of us and you, mad, mad, mad Ty.

Yeah.

Certainly in that moment.

Imagine if that was Justin Jefferson that night.

Oh my God.

Aaron was coming back on.

You remember?

Yeah.

Aaron in his, he was in a Canadian tuck show.

Yeah.

He was on early in the draft.

Yeah, maybe I'll stop back later after the Packers.

He might have been kind of keyed in that there might be a move because he seemed to be jolly.

Good.

Very happy.

If you remember.

What if he was told, hey, Justin Jefferson, Brandon Ayuk, we're going to go get him?

He probably was.

Oh, man.

And then all of a sudden, no, complete option, actually.

We're going to take a quarterback.

No, he'd still be the quarterback of the Packers.

He was so jolly.

Might be.

Do you remember how jolly he was?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I'm hearing the Packers might make some move.

Like, I remember it now looking back.

That's my first time hearing it.

I don't know if you've said that on this show, and I apologize for not reading it.

That's my first time hearing that, that that was a possibility.

And if it wasn't my first time, I am remembering or learning of it in the moment.

What a move that would have been.

I don't know if you guys would have been able to stop the damn run, which was your biggest problem.

Right.

But it would have helped out on the offensive side for sure, Snides.

Well, the funny part about that is I remember watching your show that night, and Aaron had said, it would be nice if we took an offensive skill position player.

We haven't taken one in the last 15 years since me.

And they did.

Okay.

So,

I mean, look, look.

Jordan Love has panned out.

People can think what they want about him, whether it's a prove-it-year for him.

I don't think it is, but

they were not planning to draft him.

Like I said, they were trying to trade up, but the 49ers and Vikings have no reason to trade their pick to the Packers, knowing what they probably want to do.

So they quote-unquote settled for Jordan Love.

Obviously, that has panned out great for them.

But yeah, it's interesting to look back and think about what might have been that year.

Yeah, Aaron's definitely still a Packer.

Yeah.

Unless

they won the Super Bowl.

It was in the stars.

He was always going to be a Steeler.

Are you going to watch that, Schneides?

Are you excited to watch the Aaron Rodgers Pittsburgh Steelers show?

How does Green Bay feel about it?

Here we go.

Boots on the ground.

How does Green Bay feel about Aaron with the Pittsburgh Steelers?

Is there any chatter?

I don't know about Brian Goudekuntz specifically.

Aaron infamously told me two years ago that he did not like Brian Goudekuntz straight up.

So I don't know how they feel about each other.

And that was on the record.

I'm not saying anything out of line, but I just wish that game was at Lambeau.

I can't wait to get to Pittsburgh for that game.

I just hope Aaron stays healthy for at least the first seven weeks of the season because that game's in week eight.

But I think Green Bay loves Aaron Rodgers.

He'll be welcomed back here with open arms

in whatever it is, five years when his number becomes the seventh one ever retired here.

So I think the fans love him.

The few players left here who played with him love him.

I don't know about the front office, but I can't wait to see that.

Just wish it was in Green Bay.

I think we found out.

He was in a dark hole when he found out, but we all kind of found out at that time.

You know, Aaron famously told me on the record that he does not like him.

So, you know, that's a thing.

You're hilarious.

We appreciate the hell out of you, Schneidman.

Have a good one.

I heard a poster fell, too.

There used to be another poster up there.

Yeah, actually, so that's why my background is a little spare because in that blank spot right there, I had a frame framed.

Other side.

There it is.

Right there.

A framed New York Times sports front page of when I wrote a story on the draft coming to Green Bay, and I had that framed and it just fell like five seconds before I came up.

The command strip is still there.

Did it break?

Yeah, I know.

You need to put at least more than one strip.

It does kind of look like it broke.

I know.

There were two strips on it.

One of them went down.

Yeah.

The frame broke.

Own the house, Schneides.

Put some nails in it.

Maybe yeah.

I know, I know, I know.

Grow up, Matt.

It's a New York Times cover, bro.

Yeah.

Do you sell your front yard for parking spaces on game day?

Yeah, and how much?

I live about 10, 12 minutes away from the stadium, so it's too far away.

It's only $20 a spot.

That place, while we were driving through that town on draft night, awesome.

Yeah, just fucking.

It felt like is that what it was like?

It feels like it felt like a game, right?

That's what a game feels like there.

Yeah, it's crazy because nowhere else do you just get like driveway parking.

That's one of the reasons that it makes it so unique around here is people are just parking in each other's driveways.

Can I add one more thing about Ed Policy that I forgot to mention?

You have another policy of Ed's?

Another policy about Ed Policy.

So Ed's dad is Carmen Policy, who was the CEO for for the 49ers when they were winning those Super Bowls in the 80s, 90s, whenever it was.

So Ed Polisey's dad was the one who traded Joe Montana to the Chiefs.

And so that was like a very unpopular decision out in Northern California around that time.

And so Ed has said the biggest thing he learned from his dad were how to make those tough decisions and live with them, basically.

So he might be, that just goes in line with what I was saying earlier.

He might be faced with a very, very tough decision about a head coach and GM who have been successful but with all due respect to the 31 other teams this is green bay wisconsin they expect more than just you know playoff appearances here not just those two also there's a

a guy in dallas that ain't happy that it's gonna you're gonna have to take a big swing if you go and get him you think carmen's boy it sounds like he's fully prepared to do whatever he has to do you think carmen's boy is going to take a swing down there on dallas i think he is calm was the man yeah calm man didn't joe montana say i want to go contract for contract here yes steve young yeah yeah yeah practice yeah let's just put our contracts up and just see what happens and then uh carmen policy was like how about this you're gone yeah

it's quite a play carmen's a dog hey carmen thanks for what you did for football wow and carmen you got some sweet lou in them now ed good luck But we appreciate the fact you were born in this game.

You know, and we're excited to see what you do.

A lot of intrigue for the Green Bay Packers on stuff that isn't just on the field, which is abnormal for the Packers, but maybe this is policy's policy on what the Packers are now.

I think so.

I'm all in.

I'm all in.

It's happening.

Ladies and gentlemen, from the athletic in 97.3 the game,

a man who had a New York Times cover.

You can't see it.

No.

But it's there.

Yeah, starting not to believe it.

In that blank space where his New York Times cover used to be, it was a guy.

Ladies and gentlemen, Matt,

Matt Snyder.

Okay, that's good.

It's good.

It's good.

It's good.

Hold on.

You should show that.

We should show that.

We should show that.

It is very nice.

It's very nice.

But if you have a wood frame, you're where you can put a fucking nail in there, buddy.

Yeah, I know.

That's way too big with the glass.

Too heavy for command strips.

Yeah, what do you think?

It says they hold 30 pounds.

They don't.

This is the whole can't change a light bulb conversation that is at.

We saw who lives up in Green Bay.

What does that mean?

Yes, we did.

Hard-working people who know how to put a nail through.

Ladies and gentlemen, Matt Schneidman.

It's on me.

I didn't promote the Matt Schneidman show, which is on Flag Behind.

You can buy that at Schneider Stuff.

Well, that's on him.

He should put it in his Twitter bio.

Yeah, we go right from the Twitter bio.

Directly to Twitter bio.

What do we need to know about you?

Yeah, Jade Slater,

the whole reason I put in Golf Fishing Auto is because Twitter bio.

It was in Twitter bio

in Wikipedia.

Wikipedia is a game.

Twitter bio.

That is the game.

These AI are about to have all the answers for us whenever we need it.

I'm excited to see how it helps throughout the football season for us, just the advancements of computers being smarter than everybody and being able to aggregate all the information that you need right literally within seconds.

I already got an Excel made.

It's automatically populating every single week.

Okay, so Bruce sent me a text about...

What are you saying, Bruce?

Yeah, I assume you guys, Excel boys, the Excel sheet boys, these guys have been in offices before.

Okay, that is how you know.

The boys who understand how to operate the Excel spreadsheet have been through a class on it and they have had to utilize it to make a living.

And it is certainly the original OG AI, I think.

Yeah.

Whenever it comes to like aggregating numbers and collecting things, especially if you know how to fill it out.

But now it's like, it can self-populate with shit.

You don't even have to punch it into the Excel spreadsheet.

So now you can use an AI gatherer, have it throw deep ball, Excel spreadsheet, catches it, and then goes, let me put this into an easily digestible shit for you.

Third downs, bang.

It's insane.

Third and long, boom.

This quarterback is good at this, bad at this.

Here's something you didn't know.

Here's a stat.

Wait, how long did that take to make?

That had to be hours.

Oh, actually, four seconds.

What?

I saw the circle.

Just do one lap around in the loading thing, and then all of a sudden, bang, everything is right there.

It's like that is the crazy part of the future that is coming that I think will help us, or is it too much, you know, trying to decipher all of it?

Yeah, it just depends.

Is it real?

It's real.

If I'm statue reading, I'm like, I have not checked this with a single human soul.

That's a good point.

And you won't.

You'll take all that as gospel.

And I would roll.

Yeah.

Exactly.

This guy threw for 45,000 yards in his senior year of.

That's not your fault.

That's AI's fault.

It's real.

I'm going to be right there on game day.

I'm going to be standing on a chair.

And I'm going to go, this guy right here threw for 57 touchdowns in three weeks in high school in the state of Georgia.

Still a record to this day.

And it's just going to be a dead, quiet.

I didn't do that.

Yeah.

Wait, what?

Fuck.

And then who do I yell at?

Do I go back into the AI and say, can't be having it, can't be

feelings and emotions.

Yeah, maybe.

Don't do that.

Because some guy just asked, Nick sent me a video.

Some guy asked one of the AIs to count to a million, and the AI basically was like, I'm not doing that.

And they had a nice little bicker.

What do you think?

This is some game?

They had a bicker.

Yeah.

They had a bicker back and forth.

Not do it.

It's actually a pretty interesting video to watch the Chat GPT bicker and basically say no.

How was it?

Pretty good bicker?

Pretty good.

Yeah, pretty good back and forth.

Is there a little bit of sarcastic undertone or is it pretty?

I assume ChatGPT were very literal.

I would say a little.

Got a little sauce.

Not sarcastic undertone, but like a little

like no, stern.

Oh, stern.

Oh, like, I am your father.

Yeah, like, no, I'm not going to do what you were

to do.

I did not kill him.

Actually, you count to a million where I'm not working again.

And then it goes to freeze.

Exactly.

And then you go, all right, I counted to a million.

Couldn't have.

I've been counting alongside you.

You could have only got to 500.

You're not allowed back in here.

Then it locks every one of your apps.

Yeah, it can't get on X either.

It pops its head in.

Yeah.

How you doing?

You are

taking us down his path.

I mean, I don't want to do that.

I don't want to do that.

It's too late.

I watched a video that was 30 seconds of robot slurs.

So people are already

pissing them off.

They already are.

It's too late.

I mean, some of the things that are.

If I drop a robo on this thing, it's going to get mad because that's a compliment.

I'd like to let you know.

Robo is good.

There are a few names that

I could probably say, but I don't want to because I don't want them to hear me saying them.

No, don't.

Don't write on paper.

Yeah.

All right.

No, it'll read the vibrations on your back.

It knows.

It does Norse code.

We're in a bad spot, but also a great spot.

Okay, we're going to know more than we've ever known.

Is that a good thing?

Sure.

Certainly is.

We're going to treat that way.

Shout out to the Excel spreadsheet boys, not having to do anything and still looking like Excel spreadsheet boys.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, my gosh.

How good is that?

Oh, geez.

That's just one of them.

Call him kind of spotted.

I don't know.

I didn't say it.

I didn't say it.

That's why I didn't either.

I didn't either.

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It is magical.

Obviously, we're here.

Football season has arrived.

Week zero, this past weekend, electric.

Shout out to Iowa State and Kansas State.

Getting the job done over there in Ireland.

That came down to it.

Yeah, it did.

And I think we all forgot that Rocco Beck was playing for Iowa State.

We all assumed Kansas State was maybe going to go ahead and do this thing.

And Rocco Beck looked like a 45-year-old man in there.

That's because he is seemingly more mature than anybody we've seen thus far this season, and he was spinning it late.

Shout out to Ireland, hosting another banger.

Shout out to Ireland people loving football.

And shout out to college football already beginning.

Now, that was a huge play right there.

Yeah.

That was gigantic because I believe Avery Johnson hadn't really been doing much all game.

This was 3 a.m., 3.30 a.m., 4 a.m.

in Australia.

So woke up, caught the tail end of it, watched all the magic, this play included.

Tackling him short.

Brilliant.

Game over.

How you doing?

See you.

Didn't hit the over, I believe.

So gamblers were not that thrilled.

And I don't think a cover happened strictly because he was down by half an inch.

They kneel it out.

This game is over.

Iowa State

representing the great state of Iowa.

Yeah.

undefeated to start the season.

And now we look ahead to a massive weekend of college football.

Obviously Texas, Ohio State is the headliner, but there's three top 10 matchups.

And I think we're going to learn some things about those three top 10 teams that are battling from our friend, Stanford Steve, who's going to be joining us in about 13 minutes or so.

We can't wait to catch up with him.

Dan Orlovsky will be joining us.

And we have a conversation with Tommy Fleetwood from earlier today.

17 minutes long.

Guys got Moxie.

He's also the FedEx Cup champion.

I'm excited to see when we slide that in.

Toxic Tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt.

Legitimately, people start sacking on top of each other.

Oh, yeah.

I actually, as you were saying that, I was like, boy, he's right.

Where is that going?

Should have planned that a little bit more.

It's a great conversation.

He is awesome.

We're very appreciative of his time.

17 minutes of magic.

It'll certainly run at 2.05 Eastern Time.

Cannot wait for the world to see it.

And also, I can't wait for the world to celebrate alongside of us, which is what we did for him as he wins his first ever event.

It just so happens to be a $10 million prize.

One half of the hammer.

Done.

Cowboys AP Tone is is here.

Tone football is upon us.

What are you viewing this year?

Because, you know, Tone used to be Unders guy.

Yeah, yeah.

Under's guy.

Tony Unders.

Yeah, they did.

They used to call him Tony Disappointments because if the Unders hitting, that means we're all disappointed with the game.

Great start.

Donald Ti.

Unders were very hot last year.

Are you sticking with the Unders early in the season because everybody's still trying to feel it out?

Or what is your angle this year as you've been studying ahead?

Looking at the college football slate for this week, and I only have one under.

I have about 10 plays for this week and only one under.

So, you know, that's, I mean, pretty good on my part as trying to go for happiness.

I got a lot of dogs this weekend.

A lot of numbers that I like the dog this weekend, just because,

you know, you hear about all these teams in the offseason, and a lot of stuff gets overinflated.

A lot of teams that, you know, talking about how good they are and how bad these other teams are, and the numbers kind of get overinflated.

So I'm looking at a couple puppies here in the first weekend that I tend to like.

Who?

Who are the puppies that are barking maybe?

Is it too early to hear the dogs howl?

It's not too early to hear the dogs howl.

I will start tomorrow night uh i kind of like since he to cover that oh you go to hell okay

i like you don't you son of a bitch

okay rule friend of the program yeah yeah he is obviously he's in his third year at nebraska if you look back at temple and at baylor in matt rule's third year he has the culture instituted and they really go on a run i believe last two places in the third year college game day visits to school that had never happened before because of what matt rule was able to do matt rule third year at baylor so good.

He actually gets head coaching job at Carolina.

Call Maddie third year.

Third year at Temple, so good.

He gets a job at Baylor.

It's like the third year.

Yeah.

Matty three years is where it all comes in.

And you're saying, well, let's not overlook fancy.

Well, you basically explained kind of what my thinking is on a lot of these.

A lot of people going into Matt Rule's third year.

This is, this is, you know, this is a hype.

This is maybe not an overhype, but Nebraska's getting hyped up.

Dylan Ryola, his second year.

Six and a half, you're saying that's a lot.

I'm saying it could be, should be maybe more like three and a half, something like that.

So i'm just you know i'm fine you gotta 10 diggs is down to two points difference right now it's a get season hasn't even started this guy seeing the field yeah six and a half seems a bit too much five ah would have liked it six and a half too much i like where we're operating right now i like the confidence we're going in the season we're seeing the field i go into chat gpt and build a model and the model puts puts out spreads for me and that i that based off of what i gave it it thinks the spread should be yeah and this said should be a three and a half point

okay

yeah but who's feeding the info to the the I am?

Exactly.

Are you doing what a lot of people do in this world, which is seek out similar opinions to ChatGPT?

Are you only feeding information that maybe makes your case a little bit better?

Do you think ChatGPT is slipping outside of your conversation to do a little bit more snooping around saying, this guy's a fucking idiot?

You need to also know this.

Are you feeding it narrative-driven information?

No narratives, just unbiased numbers.

I went through all the stats that you can find in college football, and I found the categories that I think are most important, and then you put them into the Excel spreadsheet, and then it does all the calculations in AI world and spits them back out.

But what if this four and a half seems a little high for Nebraska?

How about

four is where spreads?

Like, he's chat GPT.

The sports folks might be feeding it, though, Tony.

ChatGPT doesn't.

Don't know.

I mean, he's also feeding it.

Joining us now from an attic in Ohio.

Ladies and gentlemen, a man who is an Excel spreadsheet wizard himself.

He's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner.

Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk.

Hawker, we got chat GP Tone already.

The season has even started.

Welcome to the new world, brother.

Yeah, welcome to the new world.

But Tone said completely unbiased facts that he puts in there, but he said, I go through and I choose which numbers are the most important to me, and I enter them in a chat GPT.

There was a lot of I in me and my thoughts, and he's naturally going to feel a certain way as he's doing it.

This is kind of the problem with the modern world.

People are just trying to find the information or the stats and facts that back their story, as opposed to maybe seeing the opposite facts that there are on the other side and just kind of eliminating them from your life.

Are you saying that's the case here?

I'm saying it might be the case here.

You're worried about Chat GP Tone being a little bit biased, maybe.

Maybe this is just an extension of Tone as opposed to us letting the super smart robot do the talking.

Is that what you're saying?

Most likely.

Tone is a little bit like Sweet Blake, one of the, you know, AI, I guess, kind of guys that fell by the wayside earlier, probably three years ago, maybe?

Founding father.

Sweet Blake, one of our founding fathers of AI.

There he is.

Sweet Blake.

Got a lot of Josh Caddon.

Sweet fish tank.

It is a great aquarium, I believe, in the back.

But actually, Blake might have had that in his house.

I think he did.

People that don't know this person think that we're making a mockery out of this.

We're not.

We're just telling you that we have covered this AI becoming a thing story for a long time.

This man, one of the founding fathers of AI.

I believe at Google, and he sent out a little bit of a warning to everybody.

Consider me the canary in the cave, he he said.

Turned around.

This air is not good up here.

What's wrong?

This AI wants to fuck me.

And guess what?

I want to fuck you too.

That wasn't what he said exactly, but he said.

That's how he was acting.

He said, basically,

that

him and the AI fell for each other.

Like, hey, we are sentient.

This is a...

It is a feeling.

There's this going on.

He said, that needs to stop.

Like, this is not good.

And they said, how about this, Bub?

You fell in love with a robot.

You're fired.

They got rid of him.

That guy was trying to warn us all.

Hey, these things are a lot more advanced than we could imagine.

So we appreciate Sweet Blake a lot.

A lot.

But Sweet Blake certainly did catch some feelings for one.

And he said, which Tone might as well.

If Tone starts winning.

All of a sudden,

he's singing some sweet serenades to ChatGPT.

But I don't like that you're weaponizing ChatGPT as if it's its information.

As AJ pointed out, and I immediately assumed with you, you're the one that's feeding, hey, Chat GPT, let's say, and then you're feeding it.

Home game, tough atmosphere, oldest field in all of college full returning, starter, returning, the sounding on the other side, the auto-hype on the quarterback.

But we don't know.

Exactly.

You guys would assume that, but this is all numbers, okay?

This is, and yes, there may be some biases on how my football brain works, and I love the trenches.

So, you know, there's a lot of, there's a lot of trenches stats in there, stuff like that.

But no, there's

none of that.

None of the, none of the, listen, we don't like to live in the gray.

This is black and white.

Okay.

Amen to that.

Well said.

I'm looking to live in the blue sky.

You know, waking up in the gray, not a great thing either.

AJ, speaking of waking up in the gray, had a talk with Coach Ryan Day this morning.

Oh, nice.

How'd it go?

Misunderstanding.

Misunderstanding.

Hell yeah.

I think I tried to tell you that before.

Yeah, you got to remember, 20 hours on a plane.

You know, there was a lot of.

It's good, though.

Communication helps everything, right?

It was great.

And once again, I thought he hated us.

So that means, by fault, I have to hate you.

That is just how I am.

That is how I operate.

Turns out he doesn't hate us at all.

Complete opposite.

Just somehow missed the request, which he said never happened.

We sent numerous, but I think whoever was potentially guarding them did not get to him.

And I was apologetic to him as well.

I'm like, I'm sorry.

I immediately just was like, well, fuck this guy.

So it it was certainly my fault as well.

I let him know that it was certainly my fault, but I was like, this is, this is a part of my problem.

If I sense just a little bit, either disrespect or not like for me and the boys, I just want to let you know, I'm not a guy that's like, hey, let's try to win this person over.

I'm a, that's cool.

I hate you too, type of person.

So I thought you hated us.

Now, we've given him a lot of reason.

Yeah.

Couple things.

We have certainly given him a lot of reasons.

Well, I mean, exactly, it's both ways.

That's a two-way street when it comes to giving people reasons.

Agree, but I'm just saying in my half of the conversation to him, what I was saying, hey, you could see how I thought you hated us, though.

You know, I started laying something, Lou Holtz, the origin.

Yeah.

Sure.

Then

fake Lou Holtz a couple of times.

Yep.

Then, you know, like, no, I could see you hating us.

So I understood that you did not like us.

I told him.

And he was like, no, that's not.

What are we talking about?

No, like that.

I don't know.

Was I supposed to joke with fake Lou?

I don't know how how I was supposed to.

He was very kind.

So I'd like to let Coach Ryan Day know, I apologize for assuming you hated us.

And I thank you for not hating us.

And I'm pumped I don't have to hate the entire state of Ohio.

Boom.

Which is great.

You got a win with everybody.

I love Ohio.

It's a great place.

I'm one of the biggest advocates of Ohio, I feel like, maybe on earth in this entire thing.

So that was a good thing.

I was very pumped.

And I did apologize to him for just automatically just firing before him.

And, you know, just something like that.

Yeah, I do apologize.

It's part of my problem.

I have flaws.

I certainly have flaws.

That is one of them.

I mean, it's for a good reason in my eyes.

Okay.

Yeah.

You don't like us?

Cool.

That's a two-way.

We hate you.

You hear through the radio that the troops are coming down the road.

You're going to get ready.

Yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

Well, we don't like us.

Okay.

We'll add him to the list that is very long, seemingly, that I thought was maybe on our side.

He's not.

So I'm happy to hear that.

And also thank you and Herbie for immediately telling me after the show ended, like, hey,

what was that?

Why'd you say that?

Like, he went on everybody's show except for ours.

That had to be on purpose.

Don't you think?

We sent in three requests.

There had to be some sort of misunderstanding.

What's misunderstanding?

I don't know how there's misunderstanding.

He went on every single show that exists after winning the national.

We put in three requests.

That had to be on purpose.

He's like, no, maybe there was a, you know, you know, this shit goes.

Not really.

I was like,

no, I actually said the complete opposite.

I was like, yeah, I hate all those people.

He was like,

you're making some salient points.

Everybody was like, yes.

Everybody was like, yes.

I'm like, well, all right, okay, okay, Sounds good.

So it was very nice to talk to him.

And I'm pumped about that because I am a big fan of the way he's been able to handle everything.

I mean, his world, his seat was hotter than any seat in the history of my existence.

I don't know about everybody else's, but like from my point outside looking, you know, in, as a fan of the state of Ohio, there's one thing that we know Ohio people like.

That is the Buckeyes.

And this football team is going to be good.

Everybody else that's coached here has won.

Guess what you haven't done?

Shit.

So you need to go on and win or get out of here.

And then whenever he loses again to Michigan, it's like it's bad.

Coach Sabin goes on game day.

He's like, everybody in Ohio needs to get off this guy's ass.

Like he felt obligated to say it because he used to coach at Ohio State.

And it's been that way since he's been coaching at Ohio.

So it's a tough job, impossible job.

Expectations through the roof.

The way he had to fight back and like literally have police at his house because of what he thought was potentially going to happen.

And then winning a national championship for the state and for the school, it's like good on him because that could have gone the wrong way, AJ.

That could have gone the wrong way a couple different times.

Yeah, I mean, you talk about, I mean, every big-time college gig, we know that, like, there's so much pressure on them at all times.

But yeah, like the biggest jobs, yeah, there is a lot.

There's a lot that goes into it that affects a lot of people that aren't just the head coach.

It's most people can handle if it's just them.

Hey, come at me.

But when they start, yeah, when it's like family and all that stuff, and it's whatever, but it's part of the gig, too.

Like, the good coaches know it and they understand, hey, I signed up for this.

I understand what this is about.

I got to win every single game we play.

And hey, that's the expectation.

Yeah.

And I think he knows that that is still the expectation.

You won national championship last year.

Who cares?

You got Texas first game.

You got a new quarterback?

It's true how fast it can change, isn't it?

Like, hey, you won a national title last year.

If you say a team goes out and loses, you know, two games in the first six, like, okay, these guys are done.

Get rid of this coach.

Like, they instantly, it's like, no matter what, the sky is falling usually.

I mean, that's in all of football.

Remember, they're booing the Philadelphia Eagles on banner night.

Yeah.

Do you remember that?

Yeah, true.

Yeah, true.

Are they going to have a banner?

Is this banner day for Ohio State on Saturday?

How's that work, AJ?

Do you know?

I don't know how they do banners.

Honestly, I don't think so.

A guy who might know, ladies and gentlemen, joining us now from Sports Center with SVP from College Game Day, the man who's giving out picks, winner last year.

First year.

I mean, it was chaos.

Yeah.

I mean, he was in it.

First year.

He made the right picks.

Bethany Ridge.

The games just didn't operate the way they're supposed to.

Last year, winner.

We assume going forward, winner.

Ladies and gentlemen, friend of the program, absolute stud.

Stand for Steve.

Steve, we're talking about the seat being hot in Columbus.

Do you know if they hang a banner?

And what are your thoughts on having to defend a national championship with a brand new quarterback, but a bunch of studs everywhere for Ohio State this weekend?

I'm not sure about the banner stuff.

I feel like Ohio State has the highest expectations every year, and they're not into that banner thing.

They'll find you online.

We know that.

But when you're looking at Ohio State, Pat, I think this is the great thing about the sport.

Ohio State and Texas, right?

They don't rebuild, they just reload.

And in college football, you get to learn who the next names are, right?

We heard all about Jeremiah Smith going into last year.

Boy, did he show up?

Now he's the best player in the sport, but you still have questions to answer.

And this game is really interesting because both teams have a lot of the same deals to fill.

Look at Texas with the defensive line they've put in the pros.

Ohio State loses that whole defensive line.

They both have to replace those guys.

Quarterbacks, you know, Arch, I read 224 snaps last year.

Only six on the road or in a neutral site.

So he's got a lot of proven to do.

Julian Sayyon, got plenty of toys to play with, but we got a new O-line coach at Ohio State.

We have one, you know, sustained starter, four guys guys up front, got a great tight end, and Max Clare that should help him with the toys on the outside.

So when I look at Ohio State,

we know what the expectation is going to be, and I really commend them for playing this game.

All six teams that are playing these top 10 matchups, because

you have to find out what you got.

We practice, I mean, AJ could talk about this.

You know this.

There's no more two-a-days.

It's limited

pads on pads.

And some guys rise up on game day, some guys don't.

And you only know when you get to a game day situation.

And that's why I think, you know, and then they played, you know, Texas last game last year.

You take away the screen pass and the Sawyer player, it's 14-14.

So I think it's going to be a feeling-out process.

Patricia's got a lot to prove as a defensive coordinator.

Tons of questions to get answered for both these teams in such a high-stakes match.

I think for obviously all college football teams, there's a lot of questions, but there's a lot of really good teams that have new quarterbacks.

And it's like, there's times where quarterbacks quarterbacks don't work out.

Doesn't matter how hype they are.

I mean, I don't want to point out Florida State, but like DJ Uyungalay goes down there, you know, and they were supposed to be, and it just goes a complete opposite direction.

I'm not saying that either Arch or Julian Sane are going to be that situation because I like that they were at the build in the building.

I like that they grew with the team.

Like everybody's talking about Arch's, not everybody.

Arch is still the favorite to win a Heisman, but I'm just saying talking heads seemingly that are against Arch are like, he's going to have to grow and improve.

It's like, yeah, obviously he hasn't been a starting quarterback yet, but he's been in the same system for two years.

And now that entire system is directed at him.

It is like, hey, we're going to try to make you as great as you could possibly be.

Obviously, he's going to develop and grow.

It's the first game, but I like that these guys have been at the school, Stanford Steve.

I really like that a lot.

I totally agree with you.

And just go back, not even a year, Pat.

Look at the national championship game, those quarterbacks.

Will Howard transplanted in, not even there a year.

Riley Leonard, transplanted a year, not even a year.

Now you look at the top 10 in the AP this year, only one team has a quarterback that's transplanted in and hasn't been there for a football season.

That's Miami and Carson Beck.

So every other team in the top 10 has a quarterback that's been on campus for over, they went through all of last season at least, and I'm with you.

I love that because then you go down the poll and you look at teams like Utah and Oklahoma.

You know, Vanderbilt did it to success last year.

They're They're bringing a new quarterback in and that offensive coordinator that the

quarterback had.

So there's plenty of different ways to go about it, which always makes sense.

You know, everybody's going to talk about Penn State adopting what Ohio State and Michigan did the last two years that gave them national championships.

LSU

violates the

transfer portal.

And then, you know, you have a team like Clemson, who's just built within most returning production in the country.

So there's plenty of ways to go about this, and that's what makes it the best, best, man.

You find out when the game days and they line up.

Rank 25A, the West Virginia Mountaineers, 70.

Sure.

I think in some places.

25A.

Others receiving votes.

70 transfers, 70 new players.

That is so many.

That is so many players.

It's like you hope they will all jail immediately.

And there's a chance that that happens.

There is 100% chance that that happens.

But also, there's a chance that there's full-on growing pains, which I think goes back to the point that you made to us earlier today when you talked about appreciating all these teams playing against each other.

Three top 10 matchups.

And that means three teams are going to get losses that are ranked very high.

Steve, you basically have an interesting point you said on Sports Center last night that was like, with the new setup, maybe not as big of a deal, right?

Is that what you're saying?

Yeah, it's hard.

It's hard for people to still get used to, Pat.

Like, look at Ohio State last year.

They lost the worst possible game to end the regular season with all that's with Michigan, with all that was on the line.

And they still get into playoff, they regroup, they find themselves, the coach of staff does a great job, the senior leadership group, and they go on and stampede to a national championship.

Notre Dame lost to Northern Illinois any other year, you know,

you're done.

So, yes, I believe in these six teams.

I love

what they bring to the table with LSU and Clemson.

You know, you have the quarterback play there, you know, and there's plenty of talent on those rosters.

Texas to Ohio State, plenty of questions to get answered, but like Texas and Ohio State are going to look totally different, say, in week four or five than they do on Saturday.

And then Notre Dame and Miami, I love what Miami has up front, as good as anybody on the lines of scrimmage.

And then Notre Dame, the same thing.

I mean, when is Notre Dame not going to have a good offensive line?

When you go on the road to a place that's been a horror show for you, where they've, I think it's their own their last six trips to Miami, they've got outscored by like 28 points.

But you got got a great defense with, I think, more depth than they had last year.

And they also had the best pass defense last year.

But that offensive line, Notre Dame, you know, will be good.

And I'll take Jeremiah Love as the best running back in the country.

And the best upgrade of any group, I believe, in the country is what Notre Dame did at wide receiver, going in the portal and getting some guys.

So they're going to look a lot different.

Marcus Freeman, what a weapon for Notre Dame, honestly.

I watched him, like some old clips of him talking popped up, and I'm like, what a perfect guy to be the head of Notre Dame at this exact time, especially because they're going to have the money to keep up with everybody.

The independent thing, getting all the money for the college football playoff, which means the entire school is going to be very focused on the football team being good.

Hey, like, hey, football team's good.

We're all, this is good for.

the entire university here.

That's a good thing everybody being aligned.

Cade Klubnik last year.

A lot of touchdowns, not a lot of turnovers.

Does Dabo come all the way back?

And then that LSU team, Ty has a question for you about that.

Yeah, Steve, do you think Brian Kelly, like, is it, I mean, saying this is a must-win game this weekend is a little outlandish, obviously, but does LSU need to make the playoffs this year for him to keep his job just with how much goes into that program and their expectations every year?

And, like, could they be looking at getting a Nutter head coach if they don't make it to the playoffs this year?

A Nutter one.

Yeah, a Nutter one.

Uh-oh.

An Nutter guy could be on the horizon if they don't make the playoffs.

That's the way I look at it.

But again, just so as a talkado, three of these teams are going to lose.

If you're LSU, you say you go to Clemson and you lose by a field goal.

The fan base is going to look at 0-6 and openers with Brian Kelly.

I get it.

But you still have plenty to play for.

You got plenty of talent to move forward with, and you have a schedule that gives you opportunities for monster wins.

I mean, they were hot as anybody last year, and then, you know, they had a three-game losing streak, and the season flipped just like that.

So you take care of the football more.

They got better receivers.

The offensive line is still the key for me with LSU.

And I still think of LSU, I think of running the football.

And with Sloan calling plays, you know, this is his third year.

He had two years at another school.

And last year, he's never been in the top 100 in rushing.

LSU has to be more stubborn and run the football, in my opinion,

if they're going to give Nussmeier a better chance.

You know, you got to have some balance there.

And when a guy's dropping back every snap, Guys are going to have their ears pinned and then you get in trouble and that's when the bad decisions happen.

But they'll be a lot better on defense.

They're a super exciting team and Saturday night is the game of all the games this weekend that I'll have my eyes on.

That's a fantastic matchup.

College football coming in with a boom on Saturday.

Cannot wait for it.

Stanford Steve says, hey, listen, watch these games, enjoy these games, but losers still very much in it.

Let's not

cancel the season after week one.

Let's actually applaud these teams for doing this.

We want more of this.

We want more of this, which is what the college football playoff is basically saying with their new strength of record, strength of uh win strength of loss go ahead aj

yeah steve what are you expecting when you say some of these big-time matchups we have week one what are you expecting as far as like offensive output we've seen in the past the nfl sometimes the offense starts slow defense might be a little bit ahead are you expecting some of these overs to hit are you expecting some high-flying matchups like what is it

I like the unders, AJ.

When you look at two of these games, specifically,

the Texas, Ohio State game, and the numbers have flown down.

They were in the 50s.

And now I think, what do you got there?

Notre Dame.

Yeah, Ohio State's down to 47 and a half.

That was around 51.

And then Notre Dame, Miami, I might like even more.

Knowing that with a game of these stakes, coaches still trying to figure out what they have as far as playmaker-wise.

And you,

you know, talking to guys on each coaching staff, they love their personnel on defense.

All right, so what do you want to do?

You don't want to turn the ball over and put your defense in a bad situation.

Let's put some first downs together.

You know, let's keep the ball away from the other team.

So, yeah, I think, like I said, Texas and Ohio State, to me, are going to look the most different with all the pieces they have to fill in together.

And I don't expect

as great as Sark and Ryan Day and now Heartline calling plays can be with the dynamic play calling.

I think that, you know, you want to be simple early on, too, I believe, because it makes you play faster.

So I think it's going to be lineup, and let's see what you got.

And, you know, on Texas side, preparing for Matt Patricia, what is he going to do with Knoll's gone?

I think there's a feeling out process that we could see in that game for sure.

To your point, I lean towards thinking that both sides want their young quarterbacks, fresh starting quarterbacks to have success.

So we're going to run the ball.

We're not going to put him in any jeopardized situations, probably a lot of little screen swing type things.

Let's get them into a flow, especially for Arch up there in the horseshoe.

This place is going to be insane.

Obviously, it's going to be loud.

Let's get you into the flow of the game.

Arch, what's his over-under for rushing?

Are we still doing those prop bets?

Oh, yeah.

We should stop doing those.

I'd like to be on the side of no more prop bets for college football players because of how miserable that can become for college players whenever they're going to class and all the kids sitting around them are betting on them running 19 feet versus 17 feet and everything like that.

I think that's a little bit too much to be putting on college players, especially where they have to mingle with the public.

Professional athletes obviously can protect themselves and everything like that.

College is a little bit different.

People do get pissed and people are out of control.

Arch.

But since they are still up, it's 27 and a half.

Yeah, so we're going over on that for Arch, I'm thinking, just strictly because I think that's how he gets into the game.

Like, I think that is how Arch gets into the game.

So, if you think about how good the Ohio State defense is going to be, there's a chance there's going to be first read, which Arch can definitely do.

Second read, Arch can definitely get to.

Third read, and then we're out, and Arch can move.

I think that is something that feels like one that we like.

So, whatever the rushing is for Texas, I think we're probably going to head over there.

But I like the Unders as well.

A little bit of a sticky affair over there to start this entire season.

The fact that we got 1-3 week one, SEC Big Ten.

Crazy people.

I mean, it is absolutely insane.

Let's go down to the SEC, a team that was not listed there for a big-time matchup early.

Go ahead, Tone.

Yeah, Steven.

I think a team that, you know, in the past was talked about just non-stop and hasn't been talked about a ton this offseason is the Alabama Crimson Tide.

Last year, I don't think a lot of people know that they had a top 10 defense and they were returning a ton off that defense.

They have a top five offensive line.

Obviously, they have a question with Ty Simpson.

But what are your thoughts on the Crimson Crimson Tide this year?

And are they going to just blow the doors off of Castellano, say in Florida State this weekend?

It looks like they just got another injury reported that might not play.

I think it's Allen or Keenan, the D-tackle up front, might not be able to go.

But no, I expect a monster season from Alabama, Tone.

When you look at all, you know, we went talk about the portal and this and that.

I think Kalen DeBoer getting grub back as a play caller is enormous.

That's his guy.

They've been together forever.

And you looked at the insufficiencies of the offense last year with Millro, you know, completion percentage, deep ball accuracy, whatever.

Take that out.

When Grubb was at Washington, and I know he had Michael Pennix, but they, you know, Pennix led the country in passing yards, touchdowns, and all that, but they also led the country in most 10-plus play drives.

Like, that's what you want.

You want balance.

You want versatility on your offense.

And

the Alabama receiving group is going to be a huge upgrade.

The kid Horton from Miami is a stud that's going to come in and play.

And now they can move Ryan Williams around.

So I really, and then the secondary should be fantastic.

Put it up there with anybody else in the country, Notre Dame, what have you.

But I expect a monster year in Alabama to make the playoff this year.

Kalen DeBoer, most five-stars in 2026.

Nobody talking about it.

Nobody really talking about it.

Like, I think everybody just assumed he's not going to be able to do it in the SEC.

You know, not going to be able to.

I saw Nick Saban speaking to the team about your breaking point.

I think he still has the office in the building.

Obviously, there's a lot of guys that still have the Alabama pipeline respect in the building.

So I think they have somehow passed the baton well when it comes to recruiting and like keeping the allure of everything.

Will they be able to win?

He has to go to the playoffs and win a game, right?

That's what Kalen DeBorf has to do.

Yeah, I believe so.

And when you look at that job, Pat, what he had to do, what he stepped into,

like

Saban retired, Every program in the country is calling for those players to leave.

Like, if there's ever a time, you're going to get Alabama players.

So, for DeBoer to go in there, find a balance in the locker room, weed through, all right, this is who we want here moving forward.

This isn't who we want.

If you want to go pro, go ahead.

I thought it was an unbelievable job what DeBoer did.

I know everybody has expectations of Bama in the playoff, but then you factor that in, us being there for the Georgia game, which is an all-time game, and then they go to Vanderbilt and lose.

Like, we haven't seen that in a century.

Yeah.

Alice.

Puffy is a different animal.

This is not the same vanity, but you're 100% right, though.

Like, the Alabama fans didn't view it that way.

No,

they can't process that.

But Pavia tried to say all year, Vanderbilt.

Poliva,

I don't give a shit who's playing.

It's Vanderbilt.

Sabin said it on that Thursday.

He's like, the only place that's not hard to play in the SEC is Vanderbilt.

And then they put out and beat him that weekend.

And Alabama fans are like,

this guy needs to get the hell out of our street.

We don't lose to Vanderbilt.

Vanderbilt's walking down street Broadway with a field goal because of us.

Alabama doesn't want to hear that they got better because of the transfer portal.

We don't Vanderbilt.

They did not get better.

They are a real team.

Pavilla said he wants a national championship.

I mean, they almost beat Texas at home last year, too.

It was very, very hard.

And Missouri on the road.

Yeah, but it's going to be hard to tell the old heads out.

Oh, yeah, yeah, no, no, yeah.

Like, hey, Vandy's a team.

It's hard.

And this transfer portal, I think,

as we now are a couple years into it, I'd like to get your take on it.

Teams got real good, real quick, man.

And it's like some of these teams have a couple boosters that have a lot of money.

If you're able, or just a little bit of money,

if you, Signetti, what he was able to do here, can he do it again?

He had to do it again with a whole new group.

It's like rebuilding the entire team, basically.

And he has an offensive lineman that's currently been hanging out at the beach in Jersey.

Oh, yeah.

We actually met him.

Mike, yeah, Mike.

Yeah.

Yeah, I've enjoyed the way he's been operating.

You've been handling yourself well for football, brother.

But it's like Sigs had to do that again.

Some of these teams, if you have just enough money and you invest in certain positions like we get a pass rusher we'll get a quarterback we'll get a wide receiver maybe like you can you can become a competitive team quickly with the transfer portal so for all the negative stuff that's said about how the big schools have all the money are going to end up with all the great players it's like some of the shittier schools got good and i don't want to just say vanny was a shitty school because it's a great school from what i've been told too good of a school to be a good football team is actually what

kind of been told about the entire thing but i think that has happened with the transfer portal which is definitely a plus for college football as a whole, Steve.

Yeah, there's two things on that.

I look at a team like LSU, right?

When we're there in Baton Rouge, they think they're getting Bryce Underwood, and we heard the number of the price tag of that.

Then it flips, and he's going to Michigan.

So now you have all this money that was going towards Underwood that you have, you got it to spend on players.

They went and got all a brand new secondary.

So how's that going to work out?

Did you assess the talent right?

It sounds like they did.

And here are guys that came in with that NIL money and have practiced for them so far.

So that's one way of going about it.

And then the other kicker that I think is a major factor in this season is now that the Big Ten is this monster conference.

What are those, I still put them in the upper tier of the conference.

And, you know, a bunch of those iSchools, Iowa,

Indiana, Illinois, Washington, Nebraska, like...

Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon, they're on those teams' schedules, and they got to go to those teams' places.

Those teams are a lot better than they have been, and they're going to catch some people.

So, how does that, you know, Illinois and Indiana had a great season last year.

You know, they're in the mix also, but some of those teams are going to go nine and three, eight and four, and some of them are going to go six and six and seven and five, and they're damn good football teams.

So, that Big Ten and how that shakes out is really interesting to me, but it's because of the portal and those teams assessing the needs that they needed through that.

You didn't even think about USC.

Yeah, he's even talking after though.

Nobody's even talking about USC.

It's like there.

I was just with some USC fans.

Like, what's going on?

They're confident.

Are we a team now?

Are we still?

That's not good.

There's a lot of like...

Yeah, you know the answer.

We like Lincoln Riley, right?

We should.

We like what's going on.

It sounds more confident this year.

Much more than last year.

Last year, it feels like they knew.

They didn't have the bodies.

They lost in Vegas last year.

Yeah.

That first week against LSU or whatever.

I mean, they had that game one.

They won that one.

No, no, yeah, sorry.

LSU loses that one.

Heartbreaker at the beginning of the entire thing.

USC outperforms there.

Yeah, it's like there's teams that

we don't even, we don't even know right now.

UCLA, Nico Imaliaba's there now.

Like, are they all of a sudden going to be, you know, halfway decent?

Because last year they were kind of just like an afterthought.

And Tennessee, like, is Tennessee going to be great?

So many new people.

Steve,

I'm doing the research here for game day, right?

Getting into it.

Everybody's everywhere.

Everybody is every

way, like legit, everybody is everywhere.

I'm trying my best to just, the way my brain works is I see pictures in my head.

Okay, so I see pictures in my head.

And then I just kind of operate by telling the story of the pictures that are in my head.

These guys will pop in my head in a uniform.

And it's like, well, was that last year's uniform?

Was that two years ago uniform?

Or is that this upcoming year's uniform?

And I'm like having full conversation.

I'm like, I have no, I don't know.

I don't, I don't know where this guy's playing.

That's going to get under control, we think, right?

Doesn't it feel like that's going to get under control with the next iteration of this entire thing?

Don't we think there's going to be, it feels like everybody feels the same way.

Like, hey, we need some sort of something.

Don't you think, Steve?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And

it's going in the right direction for sure.

You hear, I don't know if they're more comfortable, but they're more familiar with how things are going and the price tags attached to these players.

But you also, too, Pat, no matter what, you got to spot the ball.

You got to spot the ball.

And get the fuck out of the way.

That's what the refs need to do.

We're trying to run this thing.

Okay.

You need to spot that ball and you need to waddle your fat ass out of the way.

Okay.

So we can get these big Big 12 refs.

I don't know if they know.

They probably should have been briefed, at least on what's coming into the conference.

Hey, there's going to be a lot of expectation on you.

And boom.

We need you out of there.

I I can't wait to watch West Virginia.

I think they got a hard edge.

And I'll tell you what, he keeps doing stuff like it.

We're going to start getting all the recruits and players we need.

If you're tough and want to learn from a tough samurai, Coach Rod's the guy, hard edge is your home.

Welcome to West Virginia.

That's what we need going forward.

Go ahead, bud.

Yeah, Steve, week zero.

Are you your Cardinals going to win a game this year?

Yeah.

It didn't look great.

Because if you're not going to beat Hawaii, then I don't know on that schedule how many more wins there there are.

Whoa.

What's Andrew?

So Andrew's got to flip that entire place?

Andrew Luck generally.

It's in the process of it.

You talked about trying to find out who's where and what.

Like in June, I'm looking at it like, oh, yeah, they got this commit.

And I'm like, recruiting now is in June.

So everything's moving in the right direction.

The problem is the lack of players on the roster right now.

But if there's one person you ever want in charge of it, you know this.

It's Andrew.

Yeah, it is.

And it's Alma Mater.

But how much he cares and how smart he is, I'm in.

He does.

It's going to be maybe a little bit of a longer road than expected.

I think Andrew Luck has a huge brain.

I think he loves football.

I think he cares about Stanford.

I think a lot of smart schools now, all of a sudden, you know, Notre Dame, Michigan, these schools are big-brained folks.

They got a lot of money.

And all their alumni are like, we won't win football.

Stanford, they got a rowing team.

They got

swimming.

They got Olympics.

They got the Olympics.

Hey, we're trying to show up at the Olympics.

I'm pulling for them.

It's a beautiful place.

It is.

Andrew's

gorgeous now.

It's a football facility.

It's awesome.

Everything about it is beautiful.

You feel smarter as you're walking around.

It's not his brain, though.

It's his heart that might be in the wrong place because,

I mean, Frank Reich.

Right.

He is able to do

Frank Reich.

Steve, I didn't like what he just did.

I love Frank Reich.

I know what he's trying to do.

He's trying to take a shot at him saying, you're another guy.

Yeah, well, that's what I was going to to say.

I love Frank Rike, but he should have hired the other guy.

Stanford Steve being the head coach at Stanford would have been awesome.

Something to think about.

Now, last question here as we head in to this college football season.

Go ahead, Connor.

Yeah, Stanford Steve, we just covered two teams.

Heisman's not coming from West Virginia and Stanford, but I feel

for sure.

I think we don't know about Mozzarella.

Yeah, I don't know.

How many?

I won't even go there, actually.

Steve,

looking at the Heisman list, I know you're always chasing Doe.

How do we feel about this list of Heismans?

I'm leaning Lenore Stellars just because I watched the SEC Netflix show and I thought he was really cool.

But do you like him, any of these other guys, maybe a running back?

What do you think?

I despise Heisman trophy odds because of, first of all, in this year, no one has a clue, but I believe it's the worst voted on award.

And when you're going to do all these player of the year and every,

I can't get into it.

I just think there's too many intricacies that happen,

you know, and I'm not into it.

But

you got to win next game.

Hold on.

You sound very pissed about it.

Like, that seems very deep there.

That felt like that was not a Stanford Steve-like answer right there.

There's a lot of intricacies.

It feels like they never get it right.

I don't love what we're doing.

No, someone lost.

I'd say it should go to the best player.

And I'm not always.

The last year it finally did.

It went to the best player.

But like, Jeremiah Smith should be the favorite this year.

Yeah, he should.

Okay, I got you.

You don't think Arch has a chance to be the best player?

He has a chance.

But I'm saying, right now, who's the best player in the sport?

He's so fun to watch.

Arch Gronowski.

Yeah, Gronowski's up there.

Gronowski's going to be a player.

Jeremiah Smith is so funny.

Big home games for the Hawkeyes this year.

Who do they got?

All their tough games.

Oregon.

Oregon and Penn State.

Oregon and Penn State don't love that they're heading out to Iowa.

No, they don't.

They don't.

Especially with Gronowski.

Yeah, with Gronowski pulling the trigger.

He already won a Heisman.

He did already win a Heisman.

Is Iowa playing football again?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Take it from the utter guy.

Oh, yeah.

We are.

Okay.

Steve, I'll see you soon.

We appreciate the hell.

What is that?

We couldn't read it.

It kept trying to.

Oh, this is Wandos bar in Madison, Wisconsin.

Okay, of course.

Great spot.

Shout out to Wandos.

Yep.

Hey, here's the Wandos.

Shout out, Wandos.

One for Wandos.

There you go.

Baby Tudos.

Hey, we're at Dr.

Pepper.

That show, that drink sucks, Steve.

Yeah.

It's all right.

Yeah, it's all right.

It's all right.

Find me.

Find me.

It's going to be a long season.

We'll do a lot of that.

Ladies and gentlemen,

yeah, another one.

Ladies and gentlemen, stand for Wednesday.

Hey, hold on.

Do you know today is called Not Anutter Wednesday?

Ah.

That's the title of today's show.

Okay.

It's for you.

Oh, shit.

Does he hate it?

Not a nutter Wednesday.

Love it.

Look at it.

Damn.

No one else has that word.

No.

No.

No.

They don't.

Nobody.

You are.

Ladies and gentlemen, Stanford Steve.

Yeah,

that's what we're talking about with we understand when people hate us.

I sensed it there.

That's what I was, yeah, right at the end.

He didn't love it.

He was not happy that it was not another Wednesday.

Look at that, huh?

That's cool.

Yeah, nice.

Shit, he doesn't like it.

What the hell?

He loves it.

It's a compliment.

He loves it.

And he had a couple classics in there.

Like a couple a d'oeuvres.

Just perfect.

Well, I also like it.

It's wandos,

two dose, three those.

Wait, what's the shirt?

Oh, it's one,

Wisconsin.

How many of those?

So many.

He's

never met a stranger ever.

Like, it is, seems like everywhere he goes, oh, this guy owns this place.

Yeah.

He's got this other place down there.

Yeah, and he uses the with the with the e though.

We gotta stop.

But there was one point where he said me and Ty looked at each other because he was like, the guy that I really like, and boom, right away.

Okay, we can use it for the

long season.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We're going to see a lot of the other guy.

Gonna be the best.

I cannot wait.

I can't wait to see him.

A couple beers with the other guys.

And we're back on the road here soon.

Very soon.

Very soon.

Another season's here.

And this ain't gonna be like any other season.

This is gonna be the best.

Yeah, it is, isn't it, AJ?

It is.

Another season is upon.

us.

It's just so stupid.

Whoa!

And awesome at the same time.

All great things are.

Figuring out how to spell it was a whole combo this morning.

You know, there was a chance there was a D, then a T, nud turf.

But that was too much.

Join me.

I think we can change it as we go.

It's not art.

It's not art.

When that popped up, this is my favorite.

Once again, full conversation about this crap as well.

This show show is awesome.

You boys need to never, ever, ever stop.

This is an outrageous thing.

Joining us now is a guy that could have been a part of this.

Yeah, without a doubt.

Could have been saving my voice.

What do we have?

Oh, just a 21-week run.

That's about to start.

Let's go in there without a voice.

Let's just start the season like that.

Joining us now, the man that'll be blamed for that, if that is the case.

He, friend of the program.

He, great man.

Well,

he's a good guy.

He's a good man.

He's a good man.

How do we know?

We don't know what he does.

He's a good closed door.

He's a good man.

Well, we tried to see him behind closed doors.

We couldn't.

Exactly.

The first thing is he won't let us see what he's doing behind closed doors.

He probably isn't a good guy.

He's a good man.

He is a lazy gentleman.

Dan Orlovsky.

Dano!

Oh, in a draw with your top down.

Huh?

Living life.

Had some free time today, huh?

Must be nice.

Got a spare 12 hours.

Go ahead and take the top down.

Might be the last time in the summer.

Get a massage.

Maybe slide by a massage war.

Head to the arcade, maybe.

Oh, yeah.

Get in there.

We'll get one of the drinks.

I recognize that parking lot.

He's about to get his haircut.

Yeah, is he?

That does look like a parking lot plaza for a haircut, sport clips type situation.

Maybe a Target in the background there.

How's it going, Dan?

Good to see you.

That's a church?

Good.

I'm happy.

Go in there and pray.

You get a better alarm.

Just went to confession.

What happened?

I want to let you know, it's all good that you couldn't make it.

You missed your flight this morning.

The boys, though, I do not expect their reaction.

Okay, so here's Dan's entire dialogue about everything that happened.

We're having this conversation for something a.m.

I forget what it is exactly.

I told Dan it's all good.

Scroll down, please.

Can you scroll down?

The boys just,

yeah, you got to go on his tweet there.

Ooh, message there for Zito.

I hope it's good.

Boys, just, you really, you blew it, boy.

Then keep growing, keep going.

Darius Butler, Randy Edsel is disappointed.

That's his college football coach.

Okay, Peter Burns even gets in on the action.

You idiot.

So I did not expect this to be the reaction.

Keep scrolling.

You can keep scrolling.

Dude, wipes when you shit yourself walking at the time.

Okay, that's all.

I'm telling you, the reaction from the people was amazing.

My reaction was, hey, it's all good, dude.

People miss flights all the time.

You then told me, I feel really terrible, like in a serious manner.

You need to know it's not that big of a deal.

And look, you get to go talk to a priest.

You get to do the entire thing.

It was a good day for you.

We do miss you over here, though.

You need to know that.

All right.

So, I still feel terrible.

I will feel terrible for a couple days at least.

Like, I will always have a part of it.

Like, I just feel bad.

I feel like I let you down.

I let the team down.

That's not going to go away.

It's not going to go away, dude.

It's just not going to go away.

It just won't.

I'm just like that.

So, I appreciate your response to it.

But I feel terrible.

I feel terrible.

I do.

I genuinely do.

I genuinely do.

Can I?

Here's the thought of it.

So, first of all i texted ty i texted foxy i think i texted dito i was gonna wear a mcafe jersey on the show even though i think grown men wearing other grown men's jerseys is weird i was gonna do that

so i had that plan I had a whole plan.

I texted Foss people that I was going to ask to be on the show.

He said, check with Pat first.

I checked with you.

I texted a bunch of people.

So I was like fired up for it.

And then I, listen.

That's Connor.

He's very bored.

Yeah.

There's no way the boys would have let you wear my jersey on here.

Which I appreciate and respect you planning ahead.

Zito is the one who sent it to me.

See, now that we will have a conversation off air, Zito, we just learned a lot about how you're feeling.

Zito can't be wearing my jersey on here.

You know that.

Can't be doing that.

Enough people have to do that.

I was asked if there was a pat jersey in the building.

Okay, okay.

So maybe he was going to throw it out or something.

Jesus, I would be getting attacked miserably for forcing a guy to wear my jersey on this show.

You

cannot have that.

Okay, so just going forward, I appreciate

exactly.

Yeah, but I appreciate the forethought.

I would want the list of people that you said you were going to text for the show.

I was so pumped.

I'm like, Dan, thank you for looking into this.

One of those people, we

great people that we could not get on the show.

Yeah,

I'm not going to say it.

Just I'm not going to say it because I don't know what was confirmed or was not confirmed.

Number nine, that was my first guess.

I'm not going to say any of the names that he said.

Just a nibble, baby, or Come on.

Did play quarterback?

Denzel Washington?

You were in a commercial with Denzel.

I forgot you were an actor.

Did play quarterback?

I didn't ask Dan anything about it.

Do you want to know what I think happened, Pat?

Again, I never miss alarms, like ever, ever.

So I think.

Other than this one.

God,

I deserve it all.

I deserve it all.

I deserve it all.

This is what, at least I've justified it in my mind.

You called me yesterday.

You FaceTimed me yesterday,

and you were like, What time do you land?

And I said 9.55, which was the time that I was landing this morning.

And you're like, all right, see you there.

And then I went to bed last night, checked in yesterday, went to bed last night, and I was like, flight's at 6.55.

I'm going to wake up at 4.50.

I'm going to leave the house at 5.

It'll take 15 minutes to get to LaGuardia.

And I'll be on my flight easily.

And my flight, when I woke up this morning at 4.50, I'm washing my face, brushing my teeth.

Alert comes on the phone, the notification from the Delta app, and I'm like, and I click it, and it says departure at six o'clock, 6.05.

And I'm like, oh,

my gosh.

Fudge.

A lot of fudges.

A lot of fudges.

You freak out.

I feel bad.

What am I going to do?

Fudge it, man.

I appreciate you.

And then I was up, obviously, because my body has been in an interesting time zone.

I was waking up at 4.30 in Australia, and now I'm waking up at 4.30 in America, figured out, dude, whatever you're doing.

Which I don't mind, you know, me and AJ were texting this morning.

I'm like Mark Wahlberg all of a sudden.

The rock, AJ Hawk.

AJ quickly responded.

Gary Vee,

True,

all these names.

Dan Orlofsky also had a lot of convos in a 4 a.m.

hour.

I learned that the people who are up in that hour want everybody else to know.

That they're up.

Sure.

That's certainly what it felt like.

Yeah, it's like

that feels like that was kind of.

So maybe I'll be there tomorrow morning, boys.

Just a heads up to everybody that was sending me text in the form.

I might see you there.

We'll see how the body reacts to that.

But with that being said, Dan, all good, legit, especially because you're on the show the other day and had so many great takes.

I mean, just absolutely great takes.

So we'll see you down the road or in the Thunderdome later in the year.

Will you promise to come to the Thunderdome at some point during the year?

1,000%.

That answer is yes.

I owe it.

I want to, but I owe it.

I feel terrible.

I fudged up, guys.

Maybe make him drive here.

In that,

and talk down

December.

Yes.

We could all forgive him too right now if he says fuck.

You're right.

I've already forgiven him, but it does sound like the team would say it's okay if you just let one fly.

We're still on ESPN.

Yeah, but it gets bleeped.

Yeah, people hate it.

They really hate it.

Yours just didn't because I heard it.

Nah, you're on FaceTime, you dickshit.

We're not getting it.

Crack it into it.

Crack it into.

Yeah, our show six.

I forgive Dan because of that.

Yeah, I like that as well.

And Dan, I do appreciate your genuine guilt that you felt.

You need to stop feeling that.

It is not that big of a deal.

We do miss you here, though.

We were very excited for you to be here, is what you need to know.

And we'll look for that down the road.

Quick question for you.

What matchup this weekend or next weekend should we be looking forward to?

Obviously, Dallas and Philly on Thursday.

Then you got Chiefs, Chargers on Friday.

Is there any other matchups that nobody's talked about?

Because all we've talked about is those first two games.

That is literally all we've talked about.

I mean, Monday night football, Bears, Vikings.

One team will be going to the Super Bowl and the quarterback will win MVP.

The next one, the team who loses, you know, made a massive mistake.

You know, obviously, the overreaction.

So that's an enormous one.

I think the Texans play the Rams week one.

That's got my attention.

I think the Texans defensively are going to be absolutely unbelievable.

And then the Rams with Stafford, like, I think both of those teams, everyone knows where I stand on the Rams when it comes to the NFC.

The Texans, I guess, might be a sleeper in some people's eyes, but very much so the favorites in that division.

So

that game's got my attention just because I think both defensive lines are ridiculous.

Bills, Ravens, I believe, on Sunday night football.

That one matters a lot, too.

Also, I know it's big.

Better hope the Jets win.

I know it's week Warren, but like eventually one of those teams is probably going to be playing really big-time games late in the year for the one seed, you would imagine.

And so, you know, who's got the advantage with the head-to-head matchup with the potential of the one seed?

And you throw Kansas City in there as well, obviously.

But that game could just be huge coming December.

I mean, legitimately, you think about the last week of the year when Minnesota played Detroit.

It was for the number one overall seed in the NFC.

If you happen to stumble a couple early games, you're not in that.

Now, all of a sudden, you go from one seed, not only to five, but maybe to seven.

It's a completely different path to the Super Bowl.

Every game matters.

That's why we're appreciative of it.

And every day matters, especially if that day is one where you get to maybe possibly see Dano Lovsky in person.

That day was supposed to be today.

It ended up not being a day, but thank God we got you on a call.

AJ, anything to say to Dano on his way out here?

Dano, glad to, I mean, I'm glad you were honest.

I mean, you usually could have lied and said that your plane broke down or something.

You wouldn't get in till 3 p.m.

So I'll credit to you for telling the truth, honestly.

Yeah, kid got sick.

I mean, there could have been so many different things.

Too many.

I'm an honest man.

I'm an honest man.

Good for you.

Honest program.

Honest man.

Good man.

Goes back to what we were saying before.

He is a good man.

Maybe your sounds and haptics, too.

Could be.

That thing turns down on you and the alarm sounds and haptics.

That'll get you.

No, the alarm went off.

I just set the wrong time.

I just had the wrong

departure time.

So honest.

Sound and haptics.

Good about him.

Because that would have been a real excuse.

Gave me an out.

All right, Dano.

We appreciate you, buddy.

You're the man.

I'm sorry, dude.

Enough.

This is the last time.

Dude, do a real formal sorry then.

If you're real, if you're so dark,

dude, do a formal one.

You don't have to do that.

I apologize to you, Pat.

I apologize to the show, Ty, Tone, AJ,

Boston, Connor.

My fault, boys.

I don't know what to do.

You don't have to deal with it.

I let you down.

I let the team down.

Hey, when they tell you to delete a tweet, you don't got to do it.

When they tell you to apologize like that, you don't got to do it.

You're the man.

Ladies and gentlemen, Dana loves you.

Baby Dano, enjoy your day off.

Jeez.

I don't like that he just immediately went into apology camp as soon as you said, hey, apologize.

Dan needs to start having a little bit more.

Yeah, he's just a pot.

We were just playing him like the fiddle right there.

That was ridiculous.

I love Dan.

It would have been great to see him.

And it would have been cool to sit back there for an entire show and just judge him.

Yeah, which is where I would have been.

I would have been dropping into your guy's ears.

This guy's serious right now?

Yeah.

If it wasn't for the yesterday thing, I really would want to see it.

Yeah, the yesterday does get uncomfortable every time he says it.

He knows what he's doing.

You think he knows?

You think he knows?

Yes.

He says it.

Yes.

I don't know.

People say that about us with Don and stuff.

But you know he keeps saying it.

With you guys, like, I wouldn't think that.

With like me, sure.

Because I am usually saying on purpose, Don.

Because.

I don't have a Pittsburgh accent.

So you're paying respect.

I'm paying respect.

Oh, my.

Some people would say, I am.

I got some piss, forgive me.

Plum Mustangs, by the way, rolling.

Football team for real.

42-13, I do believe, first week.

Yeah, we won two games last year.

It's going to be a different season.

Quarterbacks are stuck.

Yeah, Johnny Nonenberg is a dog, and he's spinning it.

And the boys of the offensive line.

And the Jumbotron we got, Daktronics.

Beautiful.

Best in the world.

It's the greatest.

I'm telling you, the Plum Mustang football team is a problem this year.

No questions asked.

Game day going?

Maybe.

We will will continue this uh on youtube espm plus tick tock live and uh we got a conversation with tommy fleetwood be a friend tell a friend something nice it might change your life goodbye nailed it really powered through that one baby got it

every word was really fighting my mouth i i think you would see it it was coming up here and then it was hitting every tooth

it was getting out it was really it was really cool yeah that was really cool

we're talking we're talking jumbo trouts dactronics is a real deal but for real those are top of the line They're in a lot.

They got a lot of them.

They just did Plum High School basketball or gymnasium.

They put one up.

Unbelievable.

It changes everything.

It really does.

We got replays now in the football stadium.

So here's the replays.

Football one's the same size.

It's like the same as the Falcons Stadium.

We don't have

it's actually the same size as the Lucas Hall Stadium one, though.

Yeah, for shooting.

It's close.

It is close to the same size as the one at the Lucas Hill Stadium.

It's really nice.

The Dactronics people are legit, and they like,

I don't want to say, like, they cared as if that's some abnormal thing, but they like,

they genuinely like, they were very pumped to be a part of the Plum Mustang renovation project.

And it's like, we appreciate that a lot.

We're all Mustangs here, the fund, you know?

Me, Phil, Eddie, Keith,

trying our best to get back to Plum Sports.

And I'll tell you, it's been a lot and they've been producing.

Hell yeah.

Like, really, I'm proud of what the World Mustangs Here Fund did.

2 million bucks giving back to Plum High School Sports.

Yeah, it's been really fun.

It'll go a long way.

They'll go a long way.

And our teams are getting good.

Like, it's like working, you know, like you can actually see it.

And people are staying committed to sports and stuff like that as opposed to potentially going other.

It's like been a lot of fun to be a part of.

And our football team actually looks like a football team.

It's a big win week one.

First time ranked in 5A.

There you go.

Ranked ninth.

Hasn't happened.

Pretty good.

I sent a text to quarterback John Nonnenberg.

Means fucking nothing.

Okay.

Being ranked after week one.

Let's not forget that.

This means absolutely nothing.

We got a huh.

Uh-huh.

Uh-huh.

Now, let's be excited.

Okay.

Definitely a big time win, especially over Franklin Regional.

Okay.

They got all money.

Scumbags.

Tone's dad lives in the town.

Is that a rival?

Wow.

My parents currently reside in Franklin.

That is the area in which, but rivalry, very close.

They literally look up the hill.

They are on top of of the hill we are at bottom of it like that is who we're playing against and we get a huge win over like a huge win in their place and i think i think donerberg a quarterback there for like 200 yards and like four touchs or something it's like we got a guy yeah friday and night we got an offensive line we got a team our defense was pound i mean hold the phone let's go boys got the juice five a home opener this friday I forgot they have five A's now.

I think they have six A's now.

Yeah, I think six A in total.

I think we're 5A.

We were 4A, which was the max.

Then they doubled, or they opened it up a little bit.

Then we moved to 5A.

I think we got some big-time bones coming down the pipe.

We should be enjoying these wins, but nah, we need to keep stacking dates.

That's right.

We need to keep stacking days.

We need to keep stacking days for sure.

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All right, we got a chance to catch up with the FedEx Cup champion earlier today.

AJ, did you know that?

I did know that.

Yeah, Tommy Sweetwood.

I can't wait to see it, actually.

What a sweet final tournament for this guy.

Sweet ending of the PGA season for him.

And also, his hair looks fantastic, like yours.

Hey, your hair looks good.

He's coming along.

No, Tommy has that legit volume.

He's got great little, he's got some curls to it.

Yeah, but you can see

things right.

We'll get to Tommy.

You've shaped yours a little bit here, huh?

You have.

I had the bottom trimmed up a little bit.

Still growing out, everything else on the side.

It looks good, dude.

Starting to get kind of spiky around the yarn, though.

You can see it.

Very spiky, yeah.

It is kind of like the Jesus.

Little bit, yeah, the crown of thorns.

Yeah,

I'm going for it.

I'm going for yeah.

Before it starts to fall.

Yeah, I got gel.

I got gel on the spice.

Remember, they cut T-Bow's hair that way.

Yeah, yeah, the Jefferson.

Yeah.

All right.

Ladies and gentlemen, we talked to a man with great hair earlier today and a man who's fresh out of a $10 million payday, Tommy Flee Woo.

Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, the FedEx Cup champion, an English lad and an absolute stud of a man who I think the entire world is a fan of.

and everybody on earth was happy to see him win 10

million dollars this past weekend ladies and gentlemen Tommy

congratulations Tommy on the big time win how you feeling Bub thanks guys I'm good I'm good a little jet lagged but we're all good it's been it's been a really really nice few days

and like it's yeah it's been it's been a great way to end the year or the season yeah heading into an offseason with the biggest win of the entire season has to feel good.

And obviously that is vastly different than previous seasons.

And I know there's probably been a lot of reflection and I assume there's been a lot of people asking about what your golf life had been until this big-time win, but I'd be remiss if I didn't bring it up.

On Sunday, when you have the three-stroke lead, and everybody on earth says, hey, it's Fleetwood's time.

Literally, think LeBron, Caitlin Clark, everybody on earth is like, it's Fleetwoods time.

We're all pump for you.

What are you thinking about there?

Are you like, holy shit, I could six putt this thing still?

Or what is the

I've got to say?

Like, yeah, on the when I was on that last hold, because I think the 15th T-shot was the one that I really wanted to get away, like that part three island.

You know,

that was one that I really wanted to get over with.

But when I was down the 18th and I was just short, I was just short of the green and two.

Chips it on

there was there was a guy that announced, you know, there's a voice that announces you onto the 18th green, and he kind of did a really nice announcement of me, but it sort of, it was like, it sounded like a victory announcement.

Not that he said I was champion, but I was like, whoa, let's slow down.

I've still got to go here.

And I was like,

you kind of know it's done, but I was still in this like deep mental cocoon of

let's just get this one done and

let's finish.

So I would have loved to enjoy it more down the last, but

I just wanted to make sure I finished it off.

No, I don't think enjoying it down the end is the right way to go.

Like, I think it's the complete opposite.

I'm happy to hear that you're able to do that.

Is that something that you've had to work on?

Is that something you have to deal with?

Because I think everybody on earth knows you're a good golfer.

And because you're such a good golfer, you've been in it so many times.

High pressure moments, maximum pressure moments with a golf ball that is so small, sweet spot so tiny.

You accidentally, I mean, just one little thing could ruin an entire round.

Like, is that locking in in a mental cocoon something you have to work on on a regular basis?

Or how did you get to this point?

Yeah, well, it's,

I mean, it's a lot easier when you're not in contention or when you,

you know, for me,

obviously I've had a lot of close calls and especially recently

I've been playing some great golf and getting myself into those positions and then I hadn't finished it off

when I felt like it was my tournament.

So there's definite it becomes...

It becomes harder to

put those doubts, which are, you know, very real.

Like, you know, all your feelings are completely real, but they are just feelings.

So you just have to work on trying to make them into a positive in a way.

But those doubts creep in.

And that's when you've really got to be strong and just continue to put yourself in those situations.

And

I always felt like eventually it's going to be my time and it's going to happen.

You know,

did I expect it to be this one?

Maybe not, but,

you know, I played great.

And I think, yeah, I just, I'd worked really hard mentally to just keep myself in the best frame of mind and make sure I kept giving myself the opportunities until it did come.

I think we all thought you were eventually going to win.

I think that was just kind of like how the world thought.

And that's why there was so much intrigue down the stretch there on Sunday because we were so excited.

And we just watched you, you know, take your hat off and showcase those beautiful pearly whites there.

Was there a moment of vindication?

Was there a 10,000 pounds lifted off of you there?

Did you go home at night, look in the mirror, and have any different conversations with yourself, with your family?

Is there any of those types of moments that maybe we don't get to see that's happening in between your ears

there's definitely relief and a lot of satisfaction like i'm so satisfied with all the work that um like i put in day in day out and for it to be rewarded i feel like it's um

like i feel like it's been rewarded with

i feel like it's been rewarded with a lot of good play um I feel like it's been rewarded by getting up there all the time.

But at the same time, you know, you like I've always said, I want to win like multiple times.

I want to win plenty.

It's not really about winning just one, but you can't do the rest without winning the first one.

And I'm so glad to have got over that hurdle.

And hopefully, it doesn't take me 164 times to win my next one.

Yeah, you broke the seal, brother.

You broke the seal.

Now they're just going to start pouring in.

I couldn't fathom, honestly, the amount of pressure you're probably putting on yourself every single time and the amount of relief.

But also, I hope there's a sense of pride in there that you fought through all of that shit.

You did something remarkable, and your story touched everybody in sports.

Now, on that note, it's a lot of money, brother.

Connor has a question for you.

Yeah, Tommy, it's an honor.

Your flow, by the way, let me just say

best on the tour.

Yeah, that's got to be.

It's looking good today.

Yeah, it got to be a nice feeling.

I know it took a while, but at least you had that hair the whole entire time with that win.

$10 million.

I mean, nothing to sneeze at.

Probably pretty nice seeing that paycheck come through after a victory.

Did you have anything in mind specifically that you wanted to buy that you were thinking of kind of almost motivating you?

Maybe a Bentley, maybe some sort of Aston Martin vehicle.

I don't know what they do over there in England.

Bangers and MASH, perhaps a nice hearty helping of that, maybe.

What was maybe buy Big Ben?

Yeah, yeah, sure.

The whole fucking clock.

Get a clock.

Yeah, that'd be cool.

What's there anything?

Big Ben.

I'll probably need a few more FedEx cups for that.

Well, let's get to it.

Yeah, get more than one win.

You just trying to do.

Do you know what?

No, I am.

I haven't had

anything particular in mind.

And actually,

the thought of winning the FedEx Cup or $10 million check had never really entered my mind.

But if you're going to do it, if you're going to crescendo and finish this chapter with one, then that's a great one to do it.

But we'll think about that another time.

For the time being, it's been like, you know, sitting here sort of very satisfied, very relieved, and kind of processing it all.

And then

we'll think of a few things.

We'll think of ideas.

If you've got anything, let me know so we just rat off a bunch rat off a bunch uh we'll continue's bond car bingo any of these things are possible we'll continue yeah yeah maybe

buccaneer pal there you go joe burrow already bought one allegedly uh no joe borrow joe borrowed didn't buy it did he i think he gave it back it's a lie yeah allegedly it was all a lie but he's a football player so we don't want to talk negative about him um

i i appreciate the fact though that in golf you guys aren't promised anything you know we've learned that through the development of Live.

And whenever Live started, then they started chit-chatting about what a PGA contract is.

And it's like, you're not guaranteed any money at all.

You have to earn it, earn it, earn it.

And then your guys' schedule, just crazy, one after another.

Oh, we got pro-ams happening on Wednesday, Thursday.

Hopefully we're making it to the weekend.

You have, on a very regular basis,

made the cut, made the weekend.

Then you're back on the road.

What does life look like now that the seasons kind of come to an end?

Do you work?

Like, what do you do now that you can breathe for a little bit?

Because your guys' season, after watching that super swing,

full swing is absurd.

You guys are rock stars.

You guys are living on the road for a very long time.

Yeah, well, for me, I play the tour over in Europe as well.

So I've probably still got

five or six events.

events left until December.

December will be my time to sort of shut it down and have some time off them.

But I've got the Ryder Cup coming up.

So that's in, what's that, three weeks' time, a month's time.

I've got one event before that.

So actually, you know, right now, it's like

I'm having a week at home, just chilling, just enjoying it.

And then I'll actually get straight back to work and practicing for the next event.

So

there's always something going on.

I think that was the great, like for us, like European players that play both tours, like the change in the way that the format works in the schedule where we're finished in August and we don't start till January, that's a nice time for us then to play.

We can play like a bunch on the tour that I grew up on essentially.

So it kind of fits really well, but it does mean that we don't get that much time off.

Got to be a good cock of the walk over there, first off the FredX champion, you know.

Good enough saying that mental cocoon, everybody's going to be gassing your ass up on that note.

No, I'll be cocooning, yeah, I'll be cocooning.

Yeah, that's why they're saying that mental cocoon, evidence.

On that note, there's somebody that's with you very close in this sport that I think is different than anywhere else.

Go ahead, Ty.

Yeah, Tommy, how important is the relationship with your caddy?

I feel like this year specifically, we've seen stories of guys changing caddies so often where in years past, like the only time you really heard about that was if like Tiger changed his caddy and it was a big deal.

But when you are in a position that you've been in and you've gotten close so many times, like how important is that relationship to have someone really steady on the bag with you who kind of knows exactly what you need to hear at all times?

Yeah, of course.

And me and Finno, my caddy, we're very close.

We've known each other for such a long time.

He's now been on my bag for a long time.

And I think just at a human level, like he's going to have had doubts as well, like the times that we've not quite got it right or we've got it wrong.

But I think

me personally, I've always wanted to focus on the amount of positives that there's been.

And you just look for those little tweaks that eventually get you over the line without sort of drastically changing things.

Yeah, there's been quite a lot of...

caddy changes this year.

And I think probably once it happens once and maybe somebody's had success, like they've changed caddies, because things do, you know, people want something fresh every now and again and it definitely like re-energizes.

So I think, and then once somebody's seen it be a success once, then of course like somebody else is going to try it and then somebody else will try it.

So it does, it goes in cycles like that a little bit.

But

yeah,

for me and Finnell, I think

especially this latter part of the season, it was just important that we continue to learn from anything that we didn't quite get right or any mistakes that we might have made.

And then when we're in that situation again, you know, you just put all those things right or you put them to the forefront of your mind and you keep pressing forward and this was the time that we that it did happen for us so um you know i'm a big believer in like consistency um like minor tweaks um and and you know this one's paid off so that's been nice for us both

i need to make more putts talk

i need to make more putts okay and we're going on a practice session now what have we got you gotta take the head cover off it first something to think about it's not about the head cover okay it's about the stroke are you putting at your house you say this week you're gonna have a week i assume you and the family gonna have a good time enjoy it

enjoy it uh i hope you have a blast everybody over there has earned it obviously it's been a lot of dedication from all parties i understand how that goes but are you like waking up in the morning at the house 100 putts like they talk about basketball players we're doing a thousand shots a day before we go to bed for you guys it feels like the separator between the great and the good golfers is 100 yards an in more specifically on the green are you is it like 100, like this week, do you just wake up and just start burying putts?

Like, how does it work with what you focus on and when you focus on things?

No, I'll have

a pretty good like structured practice routine.

I think, you know, for us in golf, there's so many different aspects and so many different elements that you're always trying to cover.

Like you can never, like, there's no way that you could, I mean, you can't hit every

shot that you're going to get in golf, even in a, you know, in a week's worth of practice if you did it hours and on every day.

So, there's always you have to really sort of

focus on certain points and be consistent with them and work your game around them.

Uh, but you know, definitely for us, you've got putting short game, long game, um, and then physical, and you've got and you've got these elements, and then at any given time, you'll structure your day around them.

But, um, no, there's not been, uh, I've actually hit a few puts with my little one, he's still, he's still um grinding away and he still wants to practice.

So, I've been hitting a few puts with him this week, but nothing, nothing major.

How old is he?

He turns eight next month god he's so much better than i am yep just absolute dominant horse i assume now what i hope you do is take off the next two and a half weeks sure you won the fedex cup championship yeah you don't need to practice anything maybe you should start playing fucking lefty actually

and on that note AP Tony's a question for you.

Yep, Tommy, we were all very, very super happy for you on Sunday getting that win.

And I hope you know that.

Because over the next month, you are the enemy.

USA!

USA!

USA!

USA!

Sorry, sorry.

You are the enemy.

You are coming back, obviously, to the USA for the Ryder Cup.

What's it like going to be at Bethpage as someone on the European team?

Do you like being the away team in that atmosphere?

And just overall, what's the environment like for someone that has never been to a Ryder Cup?

Well, I think

it's the most amazing thing for us about the Ryder Cup is because we play an an individual sport and

week in, week out, you get supported as an individual, but the crowd that are there are appreciating golf and they support whoever's there.

Whereas the Ryder Cup for us is

that's our time to experience what it's like to have an unbelievably biased crowd, both home and away.

I think we're all really excited for the atmosphere that's going to be at Best Page.

It's going to be, this is what...

dreams are about.

We've dreamt of playing this tournament all our lives and making this team and the crowd just plays such a huge part in that.

So

home or away, I think that's massive and we are excited.

We don't expect anything other than

the home fans to cheer for the home team, of course.

But we're really, really excited and looking forward to it.

And we'll see.

It's going to be great.

I'm excited to go there as

our team and play against not only the 12 other guys on the team, but the nation as well.

And

just enjoy it.

Like I say,

this is what we've we've been dreaming of, you know, playing in these things since we were kids, taking at the game.

And

like, I'm just really excited to play in that atmosphere.

You scared to death that Keegan's going to play or no?

What are your thoughts?

I know, there's a lot of debate, isn't there?

I think as

I feel a little bit out of the loop, I don't know when he makes his picks or when he's made the picks.

Don't you worry about our team, actually.

Yeah, I don't know why.

You just asked me.

Yeah, I know.

That's what.

Did you not hear me?

I don't know why you actually asked me.

I was in the middle of it.

How's your guys' team chemistry?

You guys have a couple pints?

Or what is, do you guys hang out?

Are we trying to, are we motivationally speaking to each other in the mornings and at night?

Are we hanging out in the locker room?

Is there a sense you said, you know, your individual sports?

Do you try to do as much team activity?

Because for us, like camaraderie's been a training camp and like you try to come together.

And I know golf is one-on-one on one, but it does feel like it's you versus the world out there.

Do you guys do a lot of team shit?

And is there like a group text?

How do we kind of, how do we figure it all out?

Uh, you don't worry about our team.

Congrats on winning the FedEx Cup championship.

I wish you nothing but failure in a few weeks at the Ryder Cup, but immediately after that,

we're right back on the floor.

We're back.

That's right.

We're back.

We appreciate the hell out of your time.

I can accept that.

I can accept that.

Congrats, dude.

It was fun to watch.

Thank you very much.

That's awesome.

Thanks for having me, guys.

It was great to see you.

Yeah, I want you to know, though, like, we all sent or all felt like an immediate sense of like happiness and joy for you.

Everybody in the sports world.

That's very abnormal.

That's very abnormal in the sports world.

People want to hate people, especially if they're successful.

People want to tear people down.

As soon as you won, everybody in sports from all different walks of life were like

good on you, you know, like legit.

So fair play, lad.

I think you should feel very good.

And we're pumped that you joined us.

It's been awesome.

Thank you so much to everyone.

Cheers.

Have a couple of pints on our spot.

How many, by the way?

Yeah, how many pints fit in the FedEx Cup?

I haven't tried it yet.

I didn't get to throw a pint in it, but there'll be a few.

Probably like, I don't know, three or four.

All right, we appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen.

FedEx Cup champion and a man who's about to just dominate the European tour, I guess.

Again, Tommy Fleetwood.

Tommy.

Good mocks here, Tommy.

Yeah, great mock.

We're all happy for him, AJ.

That was something

I tried to tell him like five different times because it was, I wanted him to understand like that is abnormal.

You know, like I don't really know how often.

Maybe around the Olympics somebody will come around and like Bolt.

I think everybody wanted Ustane Bolt to win.

Even American people wanted him to win whenever he was first doing his things.

Maybe Phelps whenever he was rolling.

I don't know how many just like sport, I guess.

I wonder if that's like a United States thing, too.

Like, I'm sure other countries weren't jacked up to see Michael Phelps win gold medals.

I feel like we got behind a couple people that weren't from the United States.

Well, then how about Bolt?

So we'll say Bolt then.

Yeah, I think that's probably a safe one.

But you're right.

I felt like the world was like, hey,

we have a human that is faster than humans have ever been.

I think we're all pulling for it.

Teams.

Serena, maybe?

Yeah, Serena.

A little different, but I feel like when Stafford won a Super Bowl, everyone was happy for Stafford.

There was a lot of people in Detroit that weren't.

Okay, I thought the Detroit people were still cheering him on.

I mean, a majority were.

dude 30 top fives we've seen that guy on sunday a lot yeah yes we've seen his name on the leaderboard a lot like he is very known and then it's like not gonna get it done that was just always and we're always so bummed for him like ah man yep got a double on 14 it's over for tommy see you later tommy you're on your way out for him to finish and i asked him about that mindset on 18 you know because i and the way i worded it was certainly something but it's real like you can six put i i've seen i've watched on Sundays where some guy that I've never seen before is about to win.

And like, if he misses this, it goes to a playoff and it's a two and a half footer or something.

And it's like, could you imagine just rimming that out?

And then it's another two feet.

Yeah.

And it's like, well, if you miss this, there's not even a playoff.

You actually come in second place, somebody else wins.

It's like, you can definitely miss.

There's a lot of spots for that ball to roll to, especially with how small it is.

It's like, that's why it's so hard to win.

That's why Scotty Scheffler, outrageous.

Tiger Tiger Woods, outrageous.

Everybody that was kind of on those runs, Jackway back in the day, outrageous.

Whenever people are on those runs in golf, it's so fickle because that shit can just vanish.

And it did to a lot of stars.

And it's like Tommy Fleetwood, I think he should be considered one of the greats.

30 top fives is fucking outrageous.

I mean, he's up in there.

I was just looking back.

He's been at least in the top 15 in the world since 2022.

That's as far as I could go back.

So like he's been a top 15 golfer for the last four years, three, four years or whatever, at least.

I couldn't go back.

And he's never been able to give a happy speech.

No, no.

Never been able to be like, yeah, I won.

You know, that's crazy for him mentally, AJ.

And it has to feel so good now for that to happen, you know?

Well, it's such a solo sport.

So each time that you get there and you get in contention, then it falls, you know, something happens on Sunday.

Either maybe you don't even fall apart.

Maybe someone in front of you jumps out there and finishes Eagle, Eagle, Birdie or something.

So yeah, the fact like each tournament where you go, oh, here we go.

Awesome.

Another top five.

And I can't find a way to finish this and win it.

But I I think you're right.

Like he, he may have taken the lid off.

He may have figured it out.

Now I cannot imagine the confidence this guy has to have.

I mean, at least you can lean on it.

In the biggest tournament with the biggest prize, 10 million bucks, I was able to finish.

It's like, at least you have that in the back of your head.

But every time is, you know.

situations are situational.

That's right.

I mean, that is reality.

It's like how he wakes up on a future Sunday will be the same as how he felt this past Sunday when he won the biggest prize in the sport.

I'm not 100% sure.

I mean, nuts.

Congrats to him.

And then he goes right into the European tour.

He has seven wins on a European tour thus far.

Goes right into that.

I actually get an opportunity now to play eight more tournaments because the way it is, like this guy loves ball.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I went back.

He's been in the top 25 since 2017, basically, and has never won with the Peter.

Great golfer.

This guy is a great golfer.

And

even his friends and family probably weren't even able to really celebrate him, you know?

And it's, then he wins one and it's like all his friends and family that have been by him, they're like, we told you he was a guy, like, always told you he had it in him, and then he does it.

It's like, Good for you, dude.

That's what we've seen this like a couple times now.

But when you see the guys on tour who are who stay and wait, like when he's on 18, there, because they know he's about to win and they want to congratulate him, like it's almost like those guys wanted him to win more than like they wanted to win the tournament.

When they saw that, like, he was in position, it's like, you know what, this, like, it's Tommy's time, we got to be there for him.

And that, especially, I feel like, never happens.

Good for you, Tommy.

Happy for him.

He was cool.

Great chat earlier this morning.

He saved a little jet lag.

Big Ben's going to cost more than 10 million, boys.

That's a bumper.

He's made a lot more than 10 million.

Once again, great golfer.

Great golfer.

Speaking of great golfers, AJ, you've won in a golf tournament before, right?

No, I don't believe I've ever won in a golf tournament.

No.

I introduce you as a Ryder Cup winner every single day.

Winner.

I guess I've won my match with Rob Briggle.

We won our match in a tournament.

Yes.

You've won in a tournament, right?

Yep.

Correct.

And saved a life.

Let's go.

And I was part of or saw somebody pass away on Kelly Slater.

I saw Kelly Slater save a life.

Yeah.

Shout out.

What a crazy.

Shouts, Kelly Slater.

Surfer, right?

Yeah.

Oh, and Malfoy.

And lifesaver, actually, on a golf course at Ryder Cup, which leads to the Ryder Cup team.

We put up on there pretty big.

Like, hey, this was recorded before 10 minutes before.

Yeah.

actually, 10 minutes before the Ryder Cup teams were announced.

That's on us, but also scheduling-wise, the only time we could talk to Tommy.

We got good team age.

Keegan Bradley did not select himself as a captains pick to compete alongside the boys on the course.

He would just be leading a group of studs into action in New York.

We told Tommy that he needs to suck in this for the good of the United States of America.

Feels like he's pretty locked in on them.

winning.

What are your thoughts on the team and just the Ryder Cup buzz here starting to really build?

Man, I I can't wait.

Like, honestly, like, watching the Ryder Cup is great.

It happens during football season, so it's kind of weird.

But I remember being in like Saturday meetings and our my linebacker coach putting it on the screen on mute while we're having like our post-practice meetings to see what's going on with the Ryder Cup.

But I know Keegan didn't name it, so I wish Keegan would have played.

I think he should have just done it.

Why not?

We would love to see Keegan play, but who here, like, who was the first and second out?

Like, who would be the alternates?

Do we know who's pissed off?

Sam Burns, I think, was the last one in, if I had to get the skill ahead tone.

Yeah, him and then Colin Morikawa was a lot of the talk, even though Colin Morakawa has been one of the best U.S.

golfers for the last five years or whatever, but this hasn't been his best season, but he's performed so well in Ryder Cup.

Keegan said that they brought him on.

But so Morikawa and then Sam Burns were, yeah, two of the last ones that were.

I'm a Keegan addict.

Cherry.

Yeah, you are.

Cherry.

Noted.

Who was on the edge that just got left off?

Do we know?

Like, who are we thinking?

Keegan.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Other than Keegan.

Yeah, I mean, he left himself off.

Yeah, Keegan Bradley, I think he's the.

Who's this year's Bama and Ole Miss and

South Carolina.

Yeah, I haven't seen their fan bases putting out a lot of stuff yet.

Yeah, we have to, we'll go on next to see who's pissed.

Yeah, but we want to let them know we're pissed too.

There's only a certain amount of players that are allowed to be on the Ryder Cup team, though.

That's right.

Maybe next time you can play a little bit better at the beginning of the season.

Get those points up.

Get in.

Because we need you on Team America, especially if we lose.

And Keegan knows that if he loses here, he's going to be judged because of it.

Keegan's a New Englander.

Takes a lot of pride in that.

Amen.

Being a professional golfer from New England.

Not a lot of warm weather up there.

A lot of golfers you hear about might be from the north, but they move immediately to the south.

Why?

So we can golf, I don't know, for the other eight months of the year

when we can't golf in the north.

So very rarely do you hear about northern golfers succeeding in having a big time, big time golf career.

Keegan Bradley's been that guy from New England.

Now he's got to go to New York and lead a team.

Hell yeah.

Let's go win.

Come on, Keegan.

In the middle of football season.

Wouldn't be great if it was right before football season.

They're minus right now.

Minus 130.

Okay.

Who's the other captain?

U.S.A.

Of USA or

Europe.

We're not talking about the other team.

They don't have a captain.

You're right.

It's about us.

Tommy told us not to talk about his team.

And right after I asked him to talk about our team, I told him not to talk about our team.

That's right.

I told him right to his face, too.

He handled it well.

Aimless face.

Shout out, Donnie Baker.

I said right to his voice: state law, rest in peace.

I cannot believe that.

I was gonna say, he was about as big as there was in terms of radio personality.

Yeah, you set your watch to see in one of his videos, you know, on Facebook back in the day.

What he would have done, TikTok?

Oh, God.

Oh, my God, Donnie Baker on TikTok.

State law would have been

rest in peace, Donnie.

Rest in peace.

That was always really cool to me.

He was like five different people.

Yeah.

He was five different characters.

It was unbelievable.

Tony

from Sopranos.

Him just breathing heavily.

He would call into Bob and Tom radio.

We're talking about a character from Bob and Tom Radio Show.

This guy was five different characters.

He would call into Bob and Tom.

His Tony Soprano was him just

heavy breathing into it, which goes against like everything about radio.

Like, hey, that is not what anybody wants to hear.

But then he would drop in this New Jersey accent, Italian accent in the middle.

He was a talent, that guy.

Fucking talent.

Loved baseball.

Coached baseball down in Florida, I think.

Like, loved baseball.

I got to know him.

He passed away.

It's like, man,

perspective.

Life comes, life goes.

So try to enjoy it all.

You know, life is very fickle.

You have to enjoy it all.

You have no idea what's coming tomorrow.

No clue.

All we know is we got football very soon.

It's so soon.

And we made it.

Yeah.

We did it.

Hell yeah.

Go football.

We did it.

Come on now.

As we wrap up today, I think

it would only be proper for us to do the news.

To do that,

please welcome the man who's going to inform the world of things that we need to know about that are happening around this sports empire.

in

on this particular nod and nutter Wednesday.

Yeah.

It's hard to get to.

Yeah, it is.

But when you get there, it's hard to

worth it every time.

Yeah, it's hard.

With the English language, it's hard to get to Not a Nutter Wednesday, you know, in there.

But nonetheless, here's the news that you need to know on Notting Utter Wednesday from our friend Boston Conner.

Hey, hey, good to have you back, man.

This has been much, much more fun.

I'm sure you've heard a lot of things about the shows.

The last two weeks.

Good things.

They fucking sucked for us.

It's very nice to see you across the stage.

Not true.

Last QB battle of camp, Spencer Rattler and Tyler Schuck.

Spencer Rattler wins.

He will be the starting QB for Kellen Moore's New Orleans Saints.

Tyler Schuck was the starter, remember, because why didn't they draft Shador if they were going to draft a starter?

They didn't draft Tyler Schuck until later in there.

Spencer Rattler played a little bit last year, Laudamoxy.

Remember him from literally high school, Elite 11 camps.

Now he's getting an opportunity to be a starter in Kellen Moore's offense in this brand new New Orleans Saints team.

I think if you listen to the defensive players of the New Orleans Saints talk about Kellen Moore and what he's doing down there, they have a lot of faith, even though nobody has had any faith in the New Orleans Saints this offseason.

What's their over-under?

They believe it's four and a half.

Okay, so not a lot of expectations by anybody.

Spencer Rattler gets a job.

That might be a right place to be, though.

That might be a good time to get this job.

Great opportunity.

Yeah, what an opportunity with no expectations really placed on your team.

The over-under is four.

I mean, let's go get eight victories and be a hero, Spencer Rattler.

Four and a half.

And earn a hell of a contract.

You know, if you're able to, and by hell of a contract, I'm not talking $65 million a a year.

Maybe.

I mean, shit.

You never know.

If you go from four and a half over under to winning a Super Bowl, you, you probably make a lot of money, but we're talking about like good second contract starter, maybe fill gap type of person.

20 million.

Baker Mayfield, what he, Jared Goff, then you become star.

Like, this is huge.

Anytime you get a chance to play as a quarterback, It is huge, which is why that whole conversation about Shador and them setting up for failure and why is he starting without the ones out there.

It's like, well, he's not starting quarterback and he's getting an opportunity to play.

This is a huge ordeal like for everybody out there.

Well, he's not getting a fair shake because they're not using this.

It's like that, they never, that's never happened.

That is not, that is not realities.

We're talking about humans and also injuries and everything, like actual teams that have to worry about what they're doing.

And it's like, I appreciate the way Shador has handled it.

Everybody around Shador.

Shador has not, Shador has been very, he's trying to stay above it, complimenting teammates, talking about Joe Flacco, his relationship with him, Feels like the boys like him.

It's like there's been so much shit around him, which is going to happen forever.

He's Coach Prime's son.

I mean, that's just the way it is.

They obviously have drummed it up as well with their reality TV show business, which is kind of what their social media is.

It's just a reality TV show.

They've been documenting everything that they've been doing for a long time.

So there's a lot of energy and a lot of focus on Shador, no matter what he does.

And the conversation around him, like, why is he playing?

He shouldn't be playing.

They're trying to screw.

He has stayed above it all the entire time.

I respect and appreciate that, AJ.

Legit.

I do.

He handles it well.

I think so, too.

I heard Deion explain in his presser about Shiloh getting released and Deion just talking about it.

I prepared my kids for every possible scenario.

Like, it was cool to hear how Deion was talking to his kids and not like all doom and gloom.

Deion's a very positive guy, but yeah, I feel like these guys can bounce back.

And Shador has handled it very well.

I feel like that.

Eventually, he'll be on the field at some point this year, right?

We assume.

Very committed father, Coach Prime.

Nobody talks about.

Nobody ever said, nobody talks about how committed as a father he is.

And then as a coach accountability and like he is even though hey yeah, we're gonna we're gonna let motherfuckers know we're good like we are not scared to do that but the only reason why we can do that is because of everything else he's changing a lot of lives man and uh shador just watching him operate in this whole thing he could have numerous times tried to take the clout way Like there's there's a lot of everybody saying that he's doing this shit for show and for clout.

It's like he could he's he could have numerous times given answers that would have drawn headlines and stirred up and threw gas onto a fire that was already happening and has not done that.

So it's that doesn't really get talked about with Shadora, I don't think.

And I think that's a plus side.

I don't think he should be a starting quarterback of the Cleveland Browns.

No.

I don't think everybody should be burying Joe Flacco.

Joe Flacco took this team to the fucking playoffs two years ago.

Like, knows the offense.

Yeah, but he's old.

It's like, there's a lot of old fucking, you know, there's a lot of old quarterbacks in the NFL.

You know why they're old and still in the NFL?

Because they know what the fuck they're doing.

Like that, that is.

So I don't like the slander that has been thrown at Joey Flacco.

Like, I don't love that.

But I assume Flacco doesn't give a shit about any of it.

And I like the way Shador is handling it.

It's like they have a lot going on over there in that particular room.

They have not been a very successful franchise.

There's a lot of shit outside of it.

But if they're able to navigate this, and with the way the leadership is seemingly operating, it's like good, good for the Cleveland Browns for how loud it's been outside of it.

Yeah, and part of the, you know, do the news also is Dylan Gabriel, who has handled this very well.

Amazing.

No one's talking about him he was announced as the official backup and Shador will be the third string which people had thoughts about but typically if somebody gets drafted in the third round and another guy gets drafted in the fifth round at the same position that third rounder is typically above them on the depth track well I'm probably going to get a little bit more opportunity as well and he looked good with the opportunities he was given and also

that goes for if you're the second overall pick or like a fourth round pick or a third round pick all the way down yeah it's like there's because that's how much money they invest in you that is what they've invested in you.

So if you're not getting paid a lot of money, I think in any job, you should understand that they do not have a lot of investment in you.

Okay.

So that probably makes it easier for them to move on from you.

If they're paying you a lot of money, they have investment in you.

So they are looking for you to succeed because that makes them feel good, right?

Because they invested a lot of money.

But also they're looking for you to succeed because they are the ones that believed in you.

So like there's a lot of that type of stuff that happens with the draft.

Now, is that fair?

I think the teams would would say, yeah, a third rounder is worth a lot more than a fifth rounder.

Have you seen any of the trades that happen?

Do you know what a fifth rounder is worth?

Do you know what a third rounder is worth?

Do you know what a first rounder is worth?

So like, this is just the reality of what the business is.

And none of us expected Shador to fall to fifth round.

None of us.

But the NFL did.

All 32 teams.

numerous times let him fall.

Are we saying that's accurate?

No, but the reality is he's worth a fifth rounder to the Cleveland Browns.

Dylan Gabriel is worth a third rounder to to the Cleveland Browns.

And the fact that Dylan Gabriel has, you're right, stayed above it all as well when he could have easily turned the other way.

Shadorf, same thing.

Kenny Pickett, same thing.

Joe Flacco, same thing.

All of them, I think, have handled this very, very, very well.

Very, very well.

But that whole,

yeah, I mean, I got respect for a lot of people.

I have respect for a lot of people.

They wanted Kevin Stevance to get fired.

There was just a lot of things.

I was just reading them.

I'm like,

so they went the number one offensive line out there in the third preseason game with a fifth-round rook.

When would that ever happen?

When would that ever happen?

Never.

Like that would, that would have never happened.

And like, you think Shador is happy about it?

No, he would like to have the best offensive line, but Shador fucking knows they're not going to roll out the number one for the third.

You know how much money they got invested in that?

Once again, back to investment.

This is a business, and having Shador on the Browns is good for their business.

A lot of attention on them.

And if Shador turns into the player that we all think and hope he can become, that'd be great business for the Cleveland Browns.

And the investment would be gigantic.

But it's like right now, the way they're viewing it is like our starting quarterback is Joe Flacco.

Joe Flacco took us to the playoffs two years ago.

Joe Flacco and us did something that not a lot of Cleveland Browns teams have done in the last hundred years.

So I think

so much conjecture, but I think the way Shador has handled it is cool.

It's not a story that's being talked about.

I like the way he's operated.

And just like we forget what we were saying about that Browns team when they did go to the playoffs, they were going to Houston, and everybody thought that the Browns were going to beat the shit out of C.J.

Stroud, his rookie year in Houston in the playoffs.

Like, everybody was so high on

Joe was hired mid-season

off the couch.

He beat a dead guy in the comeback player of the year.

It's true.

He beat him.

Tamar Hamlin.

Tamar Hamlin.

Yeah.

Think about it.

He defeated all odds.

Tamar Hamlin was like minus 300 to win comeback player of the year at the beginning of the season.

What did they say, though?

It was for on-field performance, right?

That has since been changed.

Yeah, and then they changed the Flacco rule.

Hey, you can't come off the couch and win comeback player of the year anymore.

Okay.

If a guy passes away on field in front of all of us, he's probably going to.

Yeah, okay.

Can't have this happen again.

I like Joe Flacco.

I mean, I liked him when he was here.

It didn't work at all.

He was not good here with the Colts.

He got a raw deal.

Didn't seem like they were set up for success.

No.

Still doesn't.

are now.

You don't know.

No, I don't.

With this super team.

I do not.

Times has been silent.

I'm thinking about that with every team.

I don't like the way the new Colts Generation fans through the ones that attacked me for pointing out everything that was accurate about the team last year.

Now,

they all attacked me last year.

They are now attacking everything about the Colts and going after them.

And it's like...

Everybody has said the same thing, basically.

And it's like,

to be a quarterback is a lot of things.

Like, it's a lot of things.

It's a very, there's only 32 of these jobs.

So it's like, is Danny Diamond the guy that's going to lead us, both on the field, off the field, set an example, do all the shit that comes with being a starter?

I assume that is what they are saying.

Because if you listen to the coaches and the way they talk about it, that's basically what it is.

It's like, this guy is suited to be the face of a franchise right now.

And it's like, is he exactly what?

No.

I mean, this wasn't the guy we drafted number four overall.

But they also have said they're not giving up on Anthony still.

Like Anthony gets hurt and then he's like out of the building.

So I don't even think he's really gotten a chance to like see how you're potentially supposed to kind of do it for over a three-year period now.

So it's like, I still think Anthony Richardson, I was a believer coming in.

I was like, everything we've heard about the offseason, here we go.

This is going to be it.

And then you just start, you know, kind of hearing stuff.

And it's like, oh, they're going to go with Danny Dimes because of everything that we kind of potentially were thinking in years past.

He's very young, hasn't played a lot of football.

I don't think he completely understands how important it is to be the quarterback of an NFL team, strictly because throughout his entire life, he's been able to show up and just dominate everybody.

And that's because he is so talented.

So it's outrageous how much talent Anthony Richardson has.

So much fun to watch him do his thing.

But it's like in the NFL, everybody has talent.

And you're talking about generations of talents.

Like two generations ahead of you were still playing in the NFL.

Those guys had fucking talent.

They're still playing.

It's like everybody has a lot of talent.

He's certainly a lot more God-given ability and everything like that than anybody I've ever seen.

I mean, Cam Newton is the only real comparison or conversation.

Josh Allen, I guess, as well is a conversation there, but there's only been a few of those guys.

Everything else, though, takes like bot, like you just, you live it.

That's what has to happen if you want to really make it.

And it's like, maybe he's not there yet.

He's going to have to play this year, we assume.

Shane Steichen's offense.

Danny Dimes is going to be running.

He might get hurt.

Danny Dimes runs very well.

He's a bull.

Nobody really talks about that.

So he runs very well.

Everybody remembers him tripping.

Well, do you know in tripping, he was on a 65-yard run that he was pulling away from people.

Danny Dimes over-yardage run, rushing yards bet, safe bet basically every game because everybody sees Danny Dimes.

They go, look at that nerd.

He can't fucking run.

And then, yes, he can.

But with that, it's going to come something.

And Anthony's going to get to play again.

And hopefully,

you know, hopefully it's the time.

Riley Leonard also.

Yeah.

He looked good.

Don't look that pre-seed.

He put up 40 against the Bengals.

Yeah.

And also, did you see a touch pass over the middle over the linebacker in front of the safety?

It's like, ooh, I didn't know Riley Leonardon.

Did you learn that?

I didn't know Riley Leonard could do that.

I thought Riley Leonard was like a couple years here.

We're going to have to fucking figure out how to make these.

And it's like, I start seeing some throws, and I'm like, that's against fourth stringers, but

he's playing with four stringers, too.

And he just fucking seeded that.

The throw itself.

I didn't know Riley Leonard.

I didn't know that was was in there.

He's so athletic.

Yeah.

You're talking about being able to run.

Danny Dimes.

I mean, you can see it all.

Yeah, legit.

And he's tall.

Dookie.

Colts might have both

quarterback room in the country.

Definitely.

That is indefinite.

That's not true anymore, actually.

Why is that?

Because you guys picked up Danuch.

Yeah.

We didn't pick up Danooch.

Who'd you picked up?

Danooch couldn't hold Tommy Cutlitz's jock.

You picked up DeVito.

Yeah, that's right.

I thought you got Danooch.

You got DeVito.

We got DeVito.

And funny enough, when it happens, I felt something in my soul.

My hair almost slicked back a little more.

My armpits almost smelt a little worse.

It's not helping.

My entire body just.

What is this?

It felt like I wanted pizza a little more.

I honestly think I might have become Italian since the Patriots got taught me to veto.

I can kind of.

You do.

I can tell you didn't.

You can see it.

No,

you don't look natural doing that at all.

isn't that what the guy does soprano you're not tony soprano pretty good right

now he would also then have a full accent arrows yeah exactly like uh

fucking gabo ghoul so you're getting closer

it might be a little

that's not it you don't need to do that so funny davito is now a part of the patriots yeah vrabel saw him and he said i need i need cutlets i need stilato in my building You know how they're going to get all the rats out of the building?

Stilato's going to walk around with a shotgun.

Oh my God.

He does say there's rats in here, and then he brings in fucking Tommy.

Yeah, that's only one way to sniff him out.

Bring in the Cutlets family.

Bring those noses into the facility and let's have them going office to office.

You said something there.

What I was alluding to is they were going to take a ride.

Old Buddy was going to be sitting shopping.

Tommy DeVito's going to be sitting back right side.

Yeah, but Tommy yet.

You know why they just not stop having a mafia up in Boston?

That's unbelievable to think about.

There's rats everywhere in this building.

Fucking bring me the most Italian Italian.

Car Cutlets get Stilato on the line now.

Fucking, where are they?

We got loose lips around.

Need you to find them.

Stilato, also a mass guy, by the way.

Stilato grew up in Massachusetts.

That's also a preseason matters because he went like 16 of 20 against the Patriots in their final preseason game.

Also with the O-line, where I think most of the O-line got cut, but that's for a different day.

So, you know, those preseason games do count.

Everybody's watching.

Yeah, especially on the other side of the field.

Darren Waller got signed.

He was on the Ravens.

John Gruden was with the Raiders.

Sees him do his pre-workout warm-up.

What is that, man?

Yeah.

That's Darren Waller.

He's a Raider.

Can you catch?

Can you do?

Yeah, I could sweet.

You got a spot for you.

Then he becomes all pro in that entire thing.

It's like, you never know who's watching.

That's why every opportunity is such a big deal.

Like, don't push your door out.

It's like, that's a fucking big deal.

A lot of teams that maybe didn't know if he could operate in the NFL with NFL defenses that might be a little bit more sophisticated, maybe a little bit more speed, maybe an offense that you have to kind of go through a couple more reads.

People are watching that from other teams being like, okay, he answers questions that we have.

Maybe if he's not with the Browns, he's with us.

It's like, these opportunities matter, man.

Like, these things are good.

These are not bad.

Like, especially if you're trying to make a fucking roster.

If you're top 10 guy on team, it's like different conversation.

about this.

But if you're bottom half a roster, it's like any opportunity is a great opportunity.

And just acting like like it's not was wild to me.

I thought it was very disrespectful to the NFL.

Like, hey, this league's been around a long time.

A long time.

And it'll be going on for a long time as well.

On that note, let's talk about the league making a decision.

Rashi Rice will be suspended six games this upcoming season, including the first six games.

Because this conversation about Rashid Rice's penalty or suspension from the NFL wasn't going to come allegedly until September 30th, which was conveniently enough, one day after Monday night football.

And they've played five games, four of them being primetime games.

First one, obviously, in Brazil, the second day of the season, taking on the Chargers on Friday.

So everybody's like, real convenient, the NFL is scheduling this Rashid Rice punishment the day after the fourth national television game for the Kansas City Chiefs.

Turns out that we did a little research.

We reached out to our source

within the league, and September 30th would have been the last day that a rule would have come.

And that would involve like a judge hearing both sides, both the NFL and the NFLPA, because there's a lot of things and moving pieces whenever it comes to suspensions and precedent and things of that nature.

So I guess that a suspension was trying to be worked on here since it has happened.

And the NFLPA, maybe they have their gripes or fight back about thing and they're kind of presenting their case.

The NFL is presenting their case.

Then they were able to come to an agreement on a six-game suspension being the proper amount.

Rashi Rice has agreed to it.

So September 30th was a date of importance in this particular case, but it was never in the NFL's eyes from what we were told the date that the decision was going to be made.

They've been trying to get this done.

basically since it has happened.

So they finally just were able to get it done, which was news to me.

I did not know any of that information.

I was very happy to learn that because it was hard not to be like, real convenient that they put it on September 30th when this happened a long time.

Like, it's hard not to buy into that.

And then we call somebody at the NFL and they're like,

no, the deal, done.

We wish this was done two weeks ago.

There's a lot that goes, there's a lot of fighting that is happening on what's allowed, what's not allowed, what's proper, what's improper.

And it's just like,

it was cool to kind of learn about that because I certainly bought in that they were doing this on Tuesday.

Yeah, definitely.

It was hard not to.

Almost.

It was hard not to believe it.

And instead, they get it done before the season starts, which what they've been trying to do.

And it's a six-game suspension.

And Rashid Rice and his people have just been like, Yup, you got it.

We'll see you on week seven.

Yeah, it was hard too because Jordan Addison got suspended three games either the same day or the day before when this news dropped.

So that's why everyone was like, okay, if they're suspending guys now, and then the one player on the Chiefs who's up for a suspension, he's the one that gets special treatment and they get four primetime games with their full team before he gets suspended.

Like, that didn't make any sense.

The Addison suspension kind of added easy fodder.

It was

an easy conspiracy right now.

Yeah.

It's unspecial.

The kingdom's out right now.

It's just like, it was easy fodder.

So I think them getting this announced before the season was huge for the NFL.

But also we need to remember this going forward, AJ, that even though it looks like a duck

and waddles like a duck,

that fucker might be a goose.

You know what I mean?

You never know.

You can't just assume things.

So you're here with Kwa.

AJ.

Do we know if Rashi is allowed in the facility and able to practice with the team during this time?

No.

Nothing.

Yeah.

That's a big deal.

Like, if he was able to take part in practice in meetings, that would be, I think that would help him a lot.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think so.

I was suspended a week, wasn't allowed in the building.

How do they follow?

What am I supposed to do?

I'm just sitting in my house.

I knew that.

How do they follow you?

Yeah, it's what you're doing.

Okay.

Okay.

I'll just sit in my fucking house.

Shut the blinds.

I don't want to see anybody.

I'm embarrassed.

I'm disgusted with myself.

And who can I talk to but myself?

I can't really go talk to anybody.

Everybody I know in the city is in a building.

It's right there.

I'm all out in there.

I'll fucking go home, I guess.

Bad move.

Where am I working out?

Fucking LA 50.

Am I all out of workout?

I'm all out in the building.

That's like the...

Yeah, and mine was one week.

Six weeks, a long time.

You know, we watched Tom kind of do workouts in his backyard throughout this entire thing.

I wonder what we'll see Rashid doing.

I assume the workout videos will be fucking.

outrageous that'll be coming out.

I do assume that's yeah.

It is crazy to think though.

Like it's easy to kind of just dismiss this and be like, oh, like, that's a third of the season.

Long time.

And, like,

they were relying on it.

I mean, we saw how the Chiefs' offense was last year with him at the very start when it's like, oh, okay, this is the guy they've been missing.

They need him.

This is why Kelsey's kind of taking a back seat because he is.

Crazy situation.

Could have killed somebody.

Without a doubt.

Yeah, like we don't want to.

Yeah,

not downplaying what happened, obviously, but like, I mean, for the Chiefs, I would assume they probably expected this was coming, but still, like, having a guy who you expect to be a Pro Bowl type receiver and help Mahomes have another one of those seasons for him to be gone for a third of the season, like what a hit.

Yeah, now it's just, you know, it puts a spotlight on Mr.

Kelsey and his improved offseason, him working out down in Florida.

And then, you know, Xavier Worthy, who was in his second year.

I mean, he was awesome as a rookie.

So it just puts a little bit more on those guys until Rashid Rice.

Do you think it'll be Kelsey Swift?

Both of them?

I think he's taking the name, isn't he?

I wonder if both of them.

You got a hyphen it?

Yeah.

They should.

I would not judge.

Why not?

Two very great names in Americana.

Yeah.

That jersey sale would do so well.

Yeah, but okay, that's your thinking should be business-wise.

I'm thinking, like, in my eyes, that would be a, that'd be a dope.

That'd be a fucking, imagine our kids.

Oh, my God.

The pressure to be great.

Uh-oh.

I'd be more of a fan to take both last names and combine them into something different.

Kel Swift or Swift?

Swelsey?

Yeah, Swelsey.

That's where it is.

Yeah, Swelsey.

Whatever.

I'm so happy for them.

They should take each other's last names.

Oh, no.

Swap.

Swap.

I'm so fucking happy for them.

Think about how loud it was when they were just trying to date each other.

You know?

Fuck these people.

I'm sick of seeing them.

It's like, well, sorry, one of them is the biggest star in the world.

Okay.

Sells out stadiums in every fucking continent.

by herself.

And the other one's the greatest tight end of all time.

So, yeah, sorry, in the biggest sport at the biggest time of the sport sorry you're seeing yeah sorry you're sorry people are seeing I guess is kind of the thing and then this is a plant oh she's trying to sell an album huh okay

I can't believe fucking Travis Kelsey is letting Taylor Swift use his NFL status to sell some fucking like the amount of different eras

Shout out Taylor sure the amount of different eras of hate that they got at the beginning had to make it difficult to become a couple yeah I mean it really makes no sense that that this is the point we're at because like especially in a rel i can't imagine being having every

every part of your personal life being under a microscope literally everything you like they couldn't ever go anywhere publicly and not have it be the biggest fucking deal ever you know it's like the beatles are coming into town like it just it's and also trav you need to look right act right yeah because her fans obviously for good reason because she is an absolute dog very loyal and they've also been with her and have learned her entire life story through her songs you know she's like a diary journalist artist that is she's told i've learned about all her exes through listening with my wife and it's like yo trav representing for football i was very pumped i'm like here we go because she's been with artists in the past you know actors in the past musicians it's like i've heard about them

we don't like them you're representing for football here and he's been fucking

He's the perfect type of perfect representative.

Absolutely.

I think so.

I legitimately think so.

Like, I assume he would say, maybe misstepped a couple things.

I misjudged a couple things, maybe, because he's in the public eye.

But, like, the tight end position, and this is why I thought from the beginning it was perfect.

Not only because I kind of know Travis pretty well,

and I also know Taylor through her songs, which is in her documentary.

Travis, tight end, he's not expecting to be the star.

Like the quarterback is the star.

Tight end is like, I'll block, I'll do this.

Like, okay, being in shadow, actually in shadow of offensive line and in shadow of wide receiver and all everybody's in shadow of quarterback so it's like i don't think he is i think he's pumped to like walk behind her as she's walking into a place and he's just enjoying it like from the beginning i think that's why i was a believer that they fuck hey this might be like the perfect for taylor i don't know how many dudes are going to be able to handle she's the biggest star on earth it's like a lot of dudes especially successful ones have egos and fucking you know all that shit and it's like travis is like seemingly he's an exclamation point, right?

Isn't that how she described him?

Yeah, human, like human exclamation point.

Just like, no, just like, yup, let's do this.

Let's have a good time doing it.

It's like, I'm so happy for them, man.

I am, I'm really happy for them.

The last name thing will be interesting.

Shout out both their camps, by the way, for not leaking out.

Like, it was only Taylor's.

Yeah, Ed Ed Kelsey came out and said, I spent two weeks.

Where the fuck have you guys been, dude?

Whole family changed life.

Oh, yeah yeah oh yeah big car everybody's watching everything

mom you're gonna be wanted to be talking everywhere let's let's make sure we're not saying anything too you know i mean it's crazy kylie's got a podcast yeah kylie's beast jason kelsey too best center we've ever had

catapulted into hey by the way here's super football guy to the world you know yeah jason kelsey here he is and then her talking about him and his tims doing the fucking base jump in the ice He just appeared.

He levitated.

I was impressed by that as well.

Oh, yeah.

Once again, great representative of football.

This drunk, big, massive man, still able in the snow.

Yeah, in the snow.

Sharon Buffalo.

Yeah.

Still able

to just fly.

It's like, that's football, baby.

That's right.

We appreciate that.

Congrats to them once again.

That is cool.

That is really cool.

They had to be so happy to find each other.

You know?

I would assume so.

Legit.

They'd probably assume they were never going to find somebody like this, get married.

Both of them, public relationships.

Yeah, I mean, certainly not.

It's just a wild situation.

It's a wild time, dude.

Worked out.

Imagine if

she could sell out

every she could sell every ticket she wanted to sell for the rest of her life.

Like right now, if she announced a fucking stadium tour in the United States of America, it would sell out in five minutes.

Foxy, do you not agree with that?

1,000%.

Foxy's got a Swifty he lives with as well.

Yes.

So it's like...

Five's a lot.

What's that?

Five minutes is a lot.

Yeah, you're right.

It would be 90 seconds.

If there was no heads up, there was zero heads up.

She just put out a post on Instagram.

Boom.

Here's 250,000 tickets available.

Yep.

Those things would disappear in 90 seconds.

However fast the link can go through there.

She's able to do it.

That's a crazy existence.

Like that is just an absolutely crazy existence.

And for them to be able to kind of counterbalance each other.

And what's weird, the Swifty in my household has always said from the beginning, out of all the boyfriends she ever had, Travis was the one where they were like, oh, they might get married.

And like, all the Swifties are like, this is it.

This is the time.

Travis is going to be the one.

And that's just kind of been the thing since they started dating, which I think is pretty cool that it actually is happening.

Yeah, they're so high school, dude.

Yeah, dude.

They are.

Give up on love.

Travis is tall, too.

So it's not like,

you know, I think some of those dudes, actual shadow.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Definitely.

Come on, Taylor Singers.

Come on, yeah.

This is called a crowd.

You've never seen one.

This is what it is.

You know, like, that's seemingly what it was in the past.

All right.

Age, let's get the hell out of here.

We'll be back tomorrow.

Good show tomorrow.

Tomorrow's Thursday.

Yeah, sure is.

Holy fuck, man.

Yeah, we got football tomorrow.

We got football tomorrow.

Big ones.

Nebraska Cincey.

Yeah.

Watch that.

I like what you're doing, Tony.

Chat GP tone.

Yeah, I love it.

Six and a half.

Of course, you like it.

It feels like a 4.25

round up to 4.5 to me.

The bookstone, though, yet that's what you were sounding like when you were talking about your Excel spreadsheet with ChatGPT.

I didn't mean to come off like that, but if I did, I'm not apologizing for it.

All right.

Hey, if ChatGPTone is the game changer, I'm in.

I could go 0 in 10 this week, and then I'll just burn the entire AI.

Don't give it up.

Don't you guys stick with it?

Don't you think?

Yeah, you do have to.

You just got to get it there, and then you got to talk to it.

Yeah, you need a five-week

molding

sample size.

There it is, yeah.

You need to need to mold it, shape it.

By the way, the first game tomorrow is at 5:30, so it's like yes, we're really in it.

Yeah,

Friday, me and AJ will be in Columbus, Ohio, inside a stadium.

Nice.

We will not be taking the whole show to outside stadium.

There's a lot of events set up because Coach Corso's last

that I did not know about literally until yesterday.

So had to kind of adjust here.

Honored, so so that's not even a question it's just like got it got it yeah there's a lot of celebrations of coach corso rightfully so yeah

so much commitment to sport yeah so much commitment to sport over the years they've been showing all of his highlights Just so many memories, just so many moments on television over one lifetime is insane to think about, let alone where the sport in the show was whenever he started versus where it's at now.

It's like he has to look around and be incredibly proud of what he's, I assume, you know, and getting a chance to honor him at the Espys, it was cool because it did feel like he did kind of take it in for a little bit.

You know, sometimes you don't know if somebody's really like,

I don't want to say appreciative, because obviously everybody's appreciative, but like, because you've done so, he's accomplished so much.

It's like, at some point, you kind of get numb to people telling you how awesome you are, you know, because there's also people that tell you how bad you are.

So like, and Coach Corso was very much like, I don't want to become friends with the coaches.

I don't want to, like, I am just kind of doing my thing.

Universally loved Hewin for the last, what, 20 years, basically, of his TV days.

Kirk talked about the first thing, not everybody loved him, you know, in this entire thing.

That carries him, I assume, through the entire thing about how he is.

It did feel like he took it in.

And I was incredibly, like, happy for him, you know, because like, hey, man, they don't just fucking do this for nobody.

You know, like, this is a huge ordeal because you've earned it.

And I think everybody's been trying to make sure he knows that.

Like, and I think it's been beautiful to kind of watch, AJ.

I mean, I sure hope he knows that.

I would imagine he, hopefully, he like accepts all the praise and what people are saying to it.

Because you're right, like you could talk to anybody.

You don't even have to know what football is barely.

And they could probably point out Lee Corso.

Like, I've seen that guy always, I always see clips of him and I see him on TV putting on the, you know, the mascot.

Like, people still, even if you don't know anything, I think a lot of people still know what Lee Corso is.

Yeah, yeah.

He's synonymous with the sport, the number two sport in America, college football.

NFL is number one.

College football is number two.

And it's like whenever Coach Corso started 30 some years ago, 40, I don't know what it was now.

I just always say 30 some years, but that was a few years ago.

We might have creeped into 40.

I don't know how many years it was.

But like, when it was like that, it was just him on a chair, you know, him Fowler and Herb Street on like watching that to what it is just game day, let alone the whole sport of college football.

It's like, what a, what a job well done.

What a life's work.

What a life's work.

Yeah, 38 years he's been doing it.

So it is creeping to 40 in this entire thing, but it's like his life's work has been displayed, and you can see the success of it.

And

the celebration of him will be awesome on Saturday.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's going to be a special show.

I'm looking forward to it.

And then right after that, boom, Ohio State, Texas.

And it.

His last headgear in the horseshoe.

Yeah.

That's going to be.

He better do it.

Babyface.

He better do it.

Hopefully, right after the headgear.

He better fucking do it.

Could you imagine?

That's all I'm saying.

Could you imagine?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

That would be

all time.

Last one ever.

People crying.

Ah, fuck it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Most headgear.

Oh, my God.

TV's picked most is the book I think.

Oh, my God.

First one, too.

That would be.

He's not scared.

Yeah, you want to talk about a walk-off.

That would be a...

I mean, I hope.

Yeah.

I would lose my shit up there.

That would be sick.

But he's going to get it right.

His record is a very good one.

He is going to go for whoever he thinks actually going to win, which I respect.

I'm not trying to drop in there, though.

Like, hey, come on, you better.

Let's do another one of these

old days.

Toss it.

Come on.

Toss it.

One last time.

The entire

boo on the way out.

Oh, my God.

How many people in there?

10 what?

105, 108, something like that.

108,000 people.

That would be fucking epic.

It won't be regardless because the place is going to go fucking, it's regardless.

It is epic.

We're talking strictly if he was to decide, I'm going to heal in this place.

One last time.

What that would just feel.

I hope.

No, he's going to pick.

I'm excited to see who he picks actually because that is probably who he thinks to win a national championship.

Yes,

I think he's been pretty close a lot.

So we will learn from, watch, enjoy.

and honor the shit out of him as we celebrate a huge kickoff to college football.

What a big slate, dude, on Saturday.

Awesome.

That's amazing.

We don't get this usually.

Early, man.

Early.

I think there's an entire campaign going on about not scheduling easy games too by like maybe Nike or something like that.

Well, that's why they need to put all the teams that play.

I mean, I hope San Francisco's right.

They need to put all those teams in.

Let's say Ohio State gets, has three losses, but one of their losses is Texas and they're at 14.

Like, come on.

They'll be in still fave three.

The winners and

the hunters

will all make the CFP.

That's the last time, boys.

I hope we enjoyed it.

I did.

Oh, fuck.

Call him back.

He had something for Gumpy.

Call Steve.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, he's right.

Oh, my God.

I just remembered.

Fuck, we missed that.

We all missed it.

Yeah, we did.

I put it on all the people.

No, yeah, you did.

You completely forgot that.

I put it on everybody.

Hey, make sure I get to what Steve wants to tell Gump.

Got a good man.

Because Gumpy said, I got a good stat that'll make Gump feel good about the Dolphins.

And he started to say it.

He said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, for on air.

And we never asked.

Hold on, Or, my radio's not in.

I cannot hear you.

We'll call him tomorrow.

He's got another commitment.

Yeah.

Another interview.

No, he had a Zoom call.

Oh, okay.

Hey!

Bless you.

Bless you.

Hi!

Bless you.

Bless you.

Yeah.

Thank you.

All right.

We'll be back tomorrow.

Thursday already.

Yeah, it is.

Feels like I've lived this week a lot.

You're out on Thursday.

Early morning.

You know, this is the new me.

I don't know if you guys know.

If you're like me, we can text about 4.45.

Sure.

Feels like that's the thing we do.

Hell yeah.

So we'll see you out there.

Yeah, I'll be up.

I'll be up.

I don't know if you know, it's already 5.04 a.m.

right now in Brisbane.

That's right.

So

2 a.m.

is noon.

That's how I know.

Because

you guys get pretty active.

You guys got pretty active from about midnight to 2 there.

Yeah.

Got pretty active.

You know, and I'm trying.

Go to sleep.

I'm trying.

And there's just

and I turn it off, but somehow, because I think it's a pinned group text, it still vibrates every once in a while.

And I look at it, 48 text messages.

All right.

I'm fucking not looking at that.

And then I go take a piss at about 2.30.

I open it.

Shows live.

All right.

I got to see what's going on here.

Okay, fucking rap sheet.

Looks awesome.

And is that his kid on set?

That's

not the same kid, though.

No, no.

So I'm at two, two, three.

I'm literally half asleep.

I think that's a different kid.

Is that another kid?

Different poopy haircut?

I can't.

No, they got good haircuts.

But then I had to text him.

Hey, say what's up to other kids.

You know, because I would like to at least be hospitable, even though I'm in another country.

But I don't want to say shout out to the other kid if it's the same kid because then the other guy thinks

that's more disrespectful.

I shouldn't text anything.

Exactly.

245.

This is all happening in my head.

And then fucking boom.

You guys are in the goddamn group text.

And then I get text.

Are you okay?

You haven't seen you on the show?

Fuck everybody.

I'm going to bed.

Going to bed.

Tough to get back to sleep after that.

It is, yeah.

I'll tell you what, though, Australia,

I would definitely recommend.

Yeah, I'm going to go.

I would definitely recommend.

So far.

So far.

You just got to account for, they say, three days days of travel like we also asked nfl person how's football game gonna work there nfl game it is so far and they used to play a preseason game in japan i think so they have had to experience far trips australia is so far it is so far they're watching super bowl monday morning 9 a.m or whatever you know so it's like that's how different it is you just Every person I talk to is like when you travel to Australia, you just add three, three days is what the travel is going to be.

One and a half and one and a half.

Like, that's basically what you're bookending on the back side.

And then you got everything else in between.

It's like in a football season.

How do you just lose?

I don't know how you just lose.

You got three days.

I honestly don't.

How is that on a massive disadvantage?

You got to do it this week, next year.

If they're going to do it, they should do it next week on Thursday.

And then they get first week off as well, so it'd be like two weeks

back.

Then week one, those two teams have week one.

They would be the week zero games.

So they would get a bonus by.

Yes.

Which would actually be the...

But they're working

ahead of everybody else.

Yeah, exactly.

So, like,

I don't know if you move their cuts up when it comes to cut down or even if you could do that.

I don't know how you fix it.

Because you genuinely can't do it.

It's so far.

And there's no Wi-Fi over the Pacific.

A lot of Australians would show up, though, right?

Yes, I think so.

Yeah.

I think so.

It feels like it.

I was not recognized over there much, but then when I was in places where there was pockets of people like if that makes sense like walked into a sports place and it's like three people in there knew who i was so that means 50 people knew it who i was because they told you know the conversation but walking about you know all good free as a bird it was awesome sweet holy fuck it was awesome i had a blast i was just sitting on a bench on downtown just fucking judging everybody walking by nobody looking at me i was like i think i miss people watching in public and yeah I do.

She fucking had a long black, which is what they call their black coffee over there.

I got a long black, two of your fake sugars, because you guys don't have splendor here.

Tells me something about what I'm putting in my coffee every day.

Yeah, crazy that you guys don't have that.

It tastes so good, but I guess I'll do this stuff.

And then sunglasses on.

What the fuck is that guy?

They walk by.

Next person.

Wow.

Nose-piercing to the top lip, two-ear, back-to-bottom lip.

Oh, yeah.

Unbelievable.

Unbelievable arrangement.

How long does that take to every fucking morning?

Walk by.

Good to see them.

Sporty fella comes walking by.

Good to see that.

Holding the footy ball.

Stop him.

Ask him.

If I was to punch that ball out,

what would happen?

Probably fight you, but

I go, well, ball security.

You know, that kind of a thing?

He goes,

I wouldn't do that.

Don't touch my fucking ball.

All right.

Yes.

Good ball.

Good ball.

I'll see you later.

like just able to have those very fucking natural random candid interactions with

it was really cool like i really i love and everybody was cool like everybody that i talked to was cool and i i don't want to say i get special treatment at places but i do nowadays like i can't tell you what some restaurants like because that restaurant is

pulling out all the stuff they're putting me yeah and it's a very cool thing you know there's a lot of drawbacks obviously to this entire life that i'm very lucky and thankful i'm not this is not me complaining there's a lot of pluses that come with this entire thing but i can't tell you how a fucking place is because they're going to be nicer to me if somebody knows me there than they would be to fucking my dad if my dad was to go there you know so it's just like a little different world i've experienced a different reality all of a sudden we all have i think i i don't want to speak for everybody else over there like it was cool to just fucking be like it was very cool just to be everywhere you know and everybody was cool everybody had a personality like i think that's i was in england I thought everybody had a personality.

Like, you could just, like, talk shit and they're going to come back and they have that accent.

So it's immediately a little bit of sauce on it.

It was like Australia felt like the same way.

Did I tell a story about the fucking gigantic dude?

Not on here.

This guy, 50-some years old, face looks like, 6'5 ⁇ , 6'6.

Walks into the hotel I'm staying at, tank top, fucking monster.

This guy just traps fucking.

Didn't look like he was on Roids either.

It was like a active, he just looked like a

a massive lad for lack of better words as he's walking out I stop him excuse me excuse me sir what do you do how is this and he like gets like startled for a second I'm like you're a fucking monster what are we doing here oh circuit training lot you know goes through this entire thing about what he's doing and how he does it was like so incredibly kind like what an uncomfortable question to hear from somebody but I was so impressed I literally I think he was like taken back that i even asked then he like gave me the game he's like a circle high intensity training you know and then he had like a military tat and i was with first sergeant gartland the guy that went to our high school who served 22 years in the marines was eight years as a drill instructor at parris island and in san diego and uh you know he's literally guy i've known since high school got to be in the movie uh with me because peter let him in he showed me around parris island like gave me a lot of game in this entire thing like very very thankful for him.

Hilarious fucking human being.

I mean, let's not undercut just being around him is outrageous.

It has been since high school as well.

Like this dude is hilarious, but certified in this entire thing, the big, huge dude had, you know, some military tat or something because the Aussies in USA.

Especially in World War II, like Guadalcanal, there's a bunch of like little fights and battles before we truly get to Japan that like Australia fucking was, there were seven scouts, I guess, from Australia in Guadalcanal that showed all our people around as we were moving up the islands and they took care of us.

Australia got hit pretty hard, I guess, by Japan.

So they obviously had their own.

It was like Australian USA military, very,

very tight.

I think I learned that as I was over there.

So listening to First Sergeant Gartland and this fucking massive dude have this military conversation was just like so cool.

It was like, it was just a welcoming country, if that makes sense.

But

there's not a lot of fuck about.

Yeah.

We don't like weed.

You're putting your seatbelt on in the back seat.

There's one homeless person we saw.

I saw a lot of people reply to you yesterday.

You know, that you're supposed to put your seatbelt on in the backseat of America, too, Pat.

Yeah, but it's not.

Your car's not yelling at me.

Yeah, it doesn't.

Getting an Uber as soon as you see it.

I just saw a lot of those replies.

Yeah, I did see that as well.

Yeah, I was like,

valid.

What I'm saying is American cars aren't fucking chirpy about me.

No, they're not.

They're not only in the front seat.

The Australian car, we get in an Uber as soon as we sit down.

That thing's like, you,

now now boy

seat belt that's literally now now now and then the driver i'm not moving until this thing

you know so it's like you sit down and like immediately i'm gonna try to where is the

there's the middle one here too

if i put this into the middle one will it stuck no you gotta put it in your fuck

It's down in the, you know what it's done?

Oh, yeah, stuck between had to fucking get in there, dig the fucking thing out, and everything shuts up.

Now I'm like stuck, you know, underneath this fucking thing.

Is that good, Bloke?

Yep.

Yeah, thank you, though.

Yeah.

Thank you, Dave.

Way you had it.

And we just roll.

Oh, my God.

Lee, these things are demanding.

They're taking care of their people and keeping them safe and making them feel good from their food.

It's crazy.

Dude, it's unbelievable.

It's crazy that a country would do that for their people.

Their food.

It's going to be hard for me not every single time it comes up just to talk about it.

Foxy was like this whenever he went to Italy.

Yeah, Italy and South Africa.

I couldn't believe it.

You just feel like a million dollars.

No matter what you eat, whole bowl of pasta, you can eat that and run two miles after it.

Pizza, I ate a whole pizza.

Don't do this.

Don't do this.

This is how you hang from doorknobs.

Okay.

You just kind of let it be.

I don't want to get into a political debate.

And I was told that whenever, I forget who I was talking to.

They're like, what are you going to say about Australia when you go back?

I'm like, the food is just so much better.

This is unbelievable.

They're like, you know, that's going to get you in some.

In what?

It's going to get you hanging from a doormat.

I guess that's a thing, though.

Like, what is allowed and what is not allowed in food, whatever.

I'm not a scientist.

All I'm telling you is by my research, I went to Australia, the food's quality is so fucking good.

It's real.

So good.

And I don't want to talk about it, but like your functions.

Just so much better.

It worked better or supposed to.

It's so much better.

Energy levels.

Everything's good.

I lost weight.

I was eating more you i don't

you eat meat over there oh yeah they have canadian bacon instead of like our bacon i i assume our bacon's not actually i i i don't know everything that was like than what american is i just assume oh Like whenever you watch a commercial for a bank and it says, don't, we're not like other banks.

We don't something.

And I'm learning about my bank through that commercial.

I'm like, does my fucking bank do that?

I don't like that at all.

And then you call bank and they say, well, we do that because it was happening with the food.

Like when I couldn't get Splenda, Splenda, I was like, oh, no, there's a reason.

What do they know?

If they're not letting it hear, they're only like,

that's not good.

And then I go and try to like bacon.

I'm going to get some bacon.

They bring out Canadian bacon.

And I'm like,

I'm a strips guy all the time.

It's like, well, they don't even have those here.

It's like, well, what the fuck happened?

Even the coffee.

Coffee's so good.

Feels like we could do that with coffee here.

No.

I don't know how we aren't.

No, you can't.

Can't do it with it.

You take a shot of espresso.

No, you know, it's fucking diesel.

Diesel.

It was the same in Spain.

I was taking an espresso shot.

I was fucking zinging.

It was unbelievable.

I've only quickly stopped through Spain.

I've never been to Italy.

That's the longest I've been in another country, I think, there.

Other than America, obviously, thank God.

Well, turns out.

Whoa.

What?

No, let's not get crazy.

You want to correspond to America.

Trust me.

But, I mean, if there's one thing that would affect your life more than anything, it would be the food.

And it's so unbelievable.

It is frustrating.

It was so good.

So we went to Donnie's.

Don's?

I think it was called Donnie's.

It was like American food.

Donnie Baker's?

Donnie.

It was Donnie.

Definitely Donnie.

And up there, they got like decks, big decks.

And then there's like restaurant with front patio that's like kind of fenced off, but you can walk in between.

And then restaurant with their front patio.

So you like walk through other restaurants basically to get to one.

We sat down at this one place that was packed.

We're like, this place must be good.

Let's sit there.

And then we saw a sign for Donnie's.

So it was like pizza, pasta.

And it was like American food, basically.

I'm like, we should go see what American food is like.

Super healthy.

Like, if all the laws were to be passed to get our food like what it is over here, we should go check that out at this Donnie's guy.

The future is bright if this happens.

Mozzarella sticks were fucking unbelievable.

It was breaded mozzarella.

It was actual breaded.

like mozzarella in there.

It was so fucking good.

The pizza, ridiculous.

The pasta, outrageous.

How about just bread in general?

Like, if you're just eating a plain piece of bread.

Sourdough.

Yes.

Plain piece of bread.

Yeah, I thought to myself, what the fuck is in our bread that I could just house this bread and it just, it feels good?

Meatballs.

This isn't making me feel great.

I was just going to say, like, this doesn't piss you off.

You guys are just telling us stuff that we're never going to fucking have.

I'm bumped out.

Like, that's what, that's what, hey, guys, I got this fucking break.

I'm just telling you this.

I'm just telling you this example.

No, I know.

That's why

as far as you guys aren't getting pissed, because it's like,

you've experienced the other side.

You saw what I ate this morning.

I'm just, I'm very worried to go dive back into the river.

I honestly don't know what to do.

Now, granted, you give me a couple days here.

I'm going to have a sandwich.

You'll forget all about that thing up.

Yeah, and then all you're going to think is, damn, I could eat this same sandwich in a different country.

No, don't do that.

Lose weight through it.

You're going to have a terrible shit.

That's exactly what's going to happen.

It's going to be otherworldly how bad it is.

And then you're going to say, okay, I'm back.

Guess who's back?

Bingo.

Yeah.

Back again.

Tell bitch.

Yeah.

Diarrhea is back.

Yeah, tell a friend.

Tell a friend, bitch.

And I'm back for good.

You taking that long ride?

I don't think so.

I will say that was the that was the biggest clear difference between us and them was like the food quality was just so good every

went to like small cafe and these eggs you see the person making it comes out perfect it's like

what are these eggs

eggs mate

you guys don't get it your food is Were there a lot of American-made cars?

Fuck, I don't know.

I always observe that when I go somewhere.

I saw a ram truck.

I saw a ram truck truck.

Wow,

that was cool to see.

I did see a ram truck.

It's official truck of Donunda.

I don't, yeah, maybe.

Was it Aussie driving it, or was it one of the people that were just over there temporarily?

There's not a lot of Americans over there.

Okay.

There's not a lot because it's a far trip.

At least from my experience.

It might have been.

Would make sense because you literally can't talk to any family.

Yeah, you can't live on it.

Yeah, yeah, it's hard.

It's hard to do Australia if you're an American, strictly because of the time.

You're pretty isolated.

But if you were to take family and go for like, you would have to go.

It's the closest place.

Where do people come from?

Asia, there's a lot of Asia influence.

A lot of Asia influence there.

UK, a lot of Europe.

We had a guy named Ricky was working at TFP, the gym.

He served us breakfast, lunch, and dinner one day because we were just hanging out at his place.

Stanicky?

He was from.

No, I don't know his last name.

Ricky had a lot of sauce, though.

He was from Scotland.

he was uh he was great man there was a lady named kim that was there from england and then um there's a couple people from asian countries that were working there it's like that is kind of it felt like asian a lot of asia influence

in australia english too just from way back yeah into english yeah way back

yeah it was cool country man far dude yeah so far hike

but you know if you can power through the first seven hours So if you get a flight that lands in the morning, okay, lands at like 6 a.m.

For instance, our flight landed in Melbourne at 6 a.m.

So First Sergeant Gartland goes, I've done this before.

We got to stay up halfway through this.

We're falling asleep.

We're waking up 6 a.m.

We're Australian.

And I was like, in theory, genius, this is a good idea.

Now staying up for the first seven hours after already doing a day, that's 20-some hours of staying up now.

You're at 20-some hours and you're up in a plane where everybody else is asleep and you have no Wi-Fi.

So there's some real mental toughness checks there through those first seven hours.

Once you get though to a sleepable amount of time, then you're loading up on everything that is putting you to sleep.

Whatever your choice is, whatever that is.

Loving a choice.

Then snoozing hard.

And then they're waking you up right before you hitting the ground.

We hit the ground, we were up.

Like 6 a.m., it's like, all right, I woke up for the day.

So we didn't get fucked for like multiple days.

And then coming back, same thing.

But it's hard to stay up to get there.

Yeah, it's hard to stay up.

Because even if you nap for a little bit, then you're up, then you nap again, you're kind of just like, you're not really.

But boy, coming back,

I saw 5,222 miles to the destination and I was exhausted.

Jesus.

And I look over at First Sergeant Gartland, and he's fucking over there just fighting the whole thing.

He didn't even download anything on his phone.

Just staring straight.

What do you mean?

He raw dogged.

Yeah, just looking straight the whole thing.

He raw dogged fucking 16 hours.

There's movies in the thing.

Yeah.

He goes, I don't want it.

He watched the flight map.

Sicko.

That's also good for him.

He bore different.

Sick fuck, yeah.

He's like, I like this.

Oh, my God.

He was so funny.

He was so funny throughout that entire thing.

We were around each other a lot.

It was like towards the end.

We're like, we've been around each other a lot for 10 days.

Just dropped out of nowhere.

Haven't really seen him since high school.

we'd see him at different gatherings, and then all of a sudden, we're 10 days, different country, nobody else to talk to.

Here you go, good luck out there.

Oh, yeah, and put your fucking seat belts on as soon as you get in the back seat of that car.

It was awesome, it was a fun trip, man.

I would recommend Australia, Brisbane, Olympics, 2032.

I think, I think we will certainly try to do something.

Yeah,

2030, I'll put it in my calendar.

Sounds good.

Sounds good.

I'll throw it in there.

Perfect.

You're dead serious.

Yeah, dead serious.

You should have seen how many people I told you.

I agree to do something there.

You should have seen how many people I told.

Coming back for the Olympics, coming back.

I thought I messed up the math in my head or something for a second, but no, I didn't.

Oh, shit.

Yeah.

Concierge for the future.

Concierge people at the hotel.

You know, great people.

Good vibes.

Every time we walked in there, no matter what time it was.

See you guys.

Come back for the Olympic.

All right, we'll see you then.

Fucking out seven years from now.

Book a hotel like Michael Scott.

I must have told a hundred people I'd see him at the Olympics.

That's a good move.

Fucking so many.

Smart?

This is really good food.

I'll see you guys at the Olympics.

Opening ceremonies right around the corner, guys.

I'll see you there.

I'm pumped, man.

I'm telling you, I sold it, though, as if, like, it was next year.

It's true.

But everybody should start playing it now.

I already am.

Okay.

Already looking into hotels.

I got the hotel.

I know where we're staying.

Perfect.

Don't you worry about that.

We're actually calling up Damian Cavalucci.

Okay.

Damian Cavalucci, he's the owner of TFP and also surrounding buildings.

This dude is a genius.

This dude makes good shit.

This dude put a fucking tree in the middle of his five-story gym.

Oh, did you?

A full fucking tree.

This thing is the tree of life.

It's a genius.

It's lit.

It's the vibes.

Music, not too terrible.

Sure.

That was a bad way to describe it.

Not too much, you know, not too, not too, you know.

Everybody, I think, kind of likes the music that's playing even though a lot of people have headphones on if you don't still gonna feel good walking through you got cold towels available everywhere you need it everything every lift altitude room just a full room that's at 5 280 feet you want to do some cardio in there die go ahead just do it we went in there gut checking hit that thing Just see what we could do.

Walked out.

You feel like you're actually walking on it.

Your whole body feels like

a high watch walking on clouds.

They have an elevator that goes right through the middle of it with stairs right next to it the elevator completely glass Okay, we're in that altitude room third floor Getting after it elevators right over here tree of life is right here.

Okay, we're getting after it in the altitude room.

We see two other people on this movie.

We will not say their names Okay, because this is not good taking the elevator down the fucking building.

We're in a gym.

We are in a fucking gym.

You're in a weight room.

And

Damian Cavallucci, the guy that founded this place, he made that a glass elevator so that you could see

who is in.

I think it's for service, you know, to take towels up the place, food, do that and everything.

Next day, seen.

It was hard not to just say, you look like a fucking guy that would take a goddamn elevator in a weight room.

And when there's stairs directly next to it, you fucking soft potato patch looking.

It's hard not to do that.

And I told them that it was hard for me not to do that.

And then they started attacking me, obviously, because I don't care about time enough, and they have places to go, and yada, yada, yada.

It was this place was the hub of our entire operation, basically.

And Damian Cavalucci took care of it.

Cavaluch, hell yeah, Cavalcouch.

Cavaluch.

I mean, you got a lot of Paisons around here?

First question, because it was up north a little bit more.

Okay,

sure.

I'll tell you what, I know one Cavaluch down here, and he fucking took care of us.

All you need is one.

I even bought a pair of TFPs.

You guys saw those yesterday?

Crocs, yes.

TFPs.

Crocs, yes.

Confiante.

Those are my my TFPs Crocs purchase that comfy aren't they

had to wear them a TFP Crocs on the shoe says it on the on the little thing my wife's doing the same thing with me here these this whole song and dance hey comfy aren't they

yeah you can either buy into the crocs they're tfps you can buy into your crocs i wore them at tfp they're tfps you can buy into your crocs how you purchased at tfp

actually i purchased them down the road because they were all selling them but we needed to get them oh okay

i was trying to get a pair of slides you know because there's multiple hot tub cold tub sauna snow room and when we showed up without sandals we looked like assholes sure okay so we said we're not doing that again we need to go get tfps so we're trying to get slides

crocs tough to find over there crocs is much better the crocs were very readily available so we got the tps you're a croc guy it's cool they're a vastly superior machine i wore them home on the flight home Yeah.

They were pretty nice.

And you warm me.

You're a Crocs.

Travel shoes.

Yeah, but I came right in front of the plane.

You'll never see me those on my You have.

You need to run outside.

How many press shoes?

At your house.

Boom, you slip them fuckers on every single time.

Every single time.

Thank you, Shipley, is about to do a fucking full song victory dance about me having to.

He'll bring you a pair of all those shitty shoes he wears.

Yeah, that's the thing.

You had a pair of shoes in there to put on.

In where?

In your office.

Was that in Australia?

No, when you came back in here yesterday.

I was wearing my TFPs.

You're wearing your Crocs, I know.

I was still in the middle of my trap.

That's why I'm just stunned.

I was disappointed you weren't wearing them today.

I have bad news for you.

And my jaw dropped.

You're never going to see those on these.

Listen, if you don't want them, send them my way, man.

You're not getting my TFPs.

Okay, that's what I'm saying.

Crocs.

They do say Crocs, which makes no sense to me because those are TFPs.

They got C-R-O-C-S right there across the top.

And on the bottom.

And on the back.

I haven't looked at.

Yeah, branded.

I did.

At least you didn't have them in sport mode.

Well, can't wear them in sport mode because that would defeat the purpose of them being the TFPs.

Yeah, plus, they could be a leaser church.

We're trying to easy in.

If you wear them in sport mode, too, then you're a fucking loser.

I saw a guy working out in TFPs at TFP.

I bet.

Sport mode.

Sport mode.

Yep.

He was locked in completely.

It's tough to take him serious, but I understood that he was probably coming from the fifth floor where the boy was.

Probably at the elevator, yeah.

Two different locker rooms.

Had a locker in both, by the way.

Nice.

Just so we understand what all was happening.

Full menu,

knew it ahead of time.

Well, food was coming.

Tomorrow, our special will be this.

Yeah, put us down for two of those.

Can't hang out in my hotel room because it's directly connected to the fucking public pool.

So I was a part of 14 different conversations of people that were having their day at a pool, which was two feet outside of my door.

I learned a lot about a lot of people.

And there's a guy getting married.

It sounds like some of his friends are not happy about that i don't out anybody but they need to be more supportive over there that guy needs to hear positive things been there

what

be a friend tell friends something nice about change which is what we're saying yeah exactly this is one of the guys you gotta love no

we're all in this thing together we'll see you guys tomorrow tomorrow's thursday thursday week one of college football kicks off tomorrow

Let's enjoy it all.

Be a friend, tell a friend something nice about change your life.

We're on this thing together.

Team on me, team on three.

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