PMS 2.0 1415 - Watt Wednesday, In The Trenches with AQ Shipley, Everything DB with Darius Butler, Ole Miss Head Coach Lane Kiffin, Cam Bynum, & AJ Hawk

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On today's show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys wrap up everything from week 3 of the NFL season and go through the best offensive lines of the week as they go In the Trenches with AQ Shipley, and highlight the best and worst defensive back play with Darius Butler. Also joining the show are several great guests including 3X DPOY, one of the greatest defensive players of all-time, future HOFer, and color commentator for the NFL on CBS, JJ Watt; 3x National Champion and current Head Coach of Ole Miss, Lane Kiffin; and lastly, new Colts safety, Cam Bynum. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers.
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Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome.

On this Watt Wednesday, September 24th, 2025, this sports program begins right now.

Football is incredible and obviously yesterday we had Coach BA have the hoot after the football there and that was certainly impeccable timing by a man who coached football for 47 years and it feels like for this particular program we're incredibly lucky that day after day throughout the football season, we get a chance to learn ball.

We get a chance to chit-chat with the people who are, you know, the creators of the game that basically we have today.

And today is no different, ladies and gentlemen.

J.J.

Watt will be joining us for a second.

What an honor.

He's fresh out of dressing like he was from the 70s while he was calling a football game this weekend that his brother played in.

And he's being non-biased in.

But also, if you were to watch that game without TJ Watts, look how Zaydi is.

He's so silly.

He's so silly.

I am, you fool.

And you only see the glasses and the hair at the top there.

You should see his pants they are painted on

yeah they are painted on because he's still getting under that bore you know he's still he actually rips his pants almost immediately upon sitting down in that 70s suit yeah right in the front too not in the back you know every once in a while you blow the ass out actually blow the ass out this time had to get a football covered up because you know he uh blew out the front there but that's gonna happen jj says show war i got quads and ass okay if i have to i'll be able to beat up everybody in this room you know that's a little bit of a rip there starting uh you know the real zoom in by people that were watching on tv obviously you're zooming in on the wrong parts there.

Who knows what you're looking for?

That's why I try to fix myself this weekend in the entirety.

But we'll talk to JJ Watt.

Cannot wait.

Another list of Hall of Fame nominees has come out.

And obviously, JJ not there yet timing-wise, but congrats to all the boys that got the Hall of Fame nominees.

Adam Vinateri back on there.

Let's go ahead and get his ass in.

Shane Leckler back on there.

Let's go ahead and get his ass in.

Amongst many others, there's going to be a lot of conversations and debates, but every time you get a chance to speak to a Hall of Famer, you should respect and appreciate it while also letting them know you can talk a little shit as, well, tight ends Vernon Davis up there.

Okay.

Okay.

Vernon Davis obviously turned into an actor whenever he retired.

We appreciate him and we remember him as a Maryland monster.

Do you remember at Maryland?

Oh, yeah.

He goes to San Francisco and just changes the game completely.

G-Reg, obviously, Greg Olson getting in there, obviously an absolute dog.

Jason Witten, people forgot how good of a football player he was because of what he did on Monday Night Football.

Yeah.

People forgot he had to go play again.

he did hard not to forget right thank god he did he was a great football player oh yeah everybody loved him as a teammate everybody literally was a massive fan of his congrats to him being up there who do you see d budding you know i go straight to the db so i love eric berry he was a dog cam chancellor uh legion of boom earl thomas as well pat sertan sr

dolphins the legend and the santa samuel those guys stand stand out to me from that db list uh 12-year nfl uh veteran super bowl champion player coach of tampa bay buccaneers also played for for the Arizona Cardinals, the Indianapolis Colts, the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Philadelphia Eagles, and the Baltimore Ravens.

And before that, Penn State, big one this weekend.

AQ Shipley's here.

AQ, anybody you see up there that makes you be pumped up?

How about Pouncey brother getting up there, nominated for the Hall of Fame?

And Marquise, good for him.

Yeah, Marquise Pouncey's up there.

I see Olin Croots, one of my favorite centers from the Chicago Bears, is up there.

Willie Anderson, the big tackle out of Cincinnati, needs to get in there.

Overdue.

How about Marshall Yonda?

Marshall Yonda needs to get get in there and my guy Larry Fitzgerald.

I love that.

Eli Manning's up for it.

I assume he's going to get in.

He's Eli Manning.

Would not be the first, right?

He would not be a first ballot.

Is that how the whole conversation will go?

Phillip Rivers up there.

Okay, we like that.

Everybody debates about Phillip Rivers every single time this happens.

I do wonder if Phil Rivers likes being nominated or not.

Like, I'm sure there's some guys that when they get nominated, every single year, it's like, no.

Yeah, this guy sucks.

He'll never win a Super Bowl.

I'm not saying Phil Rivers, but let's just say anybody that could potentially be, might actually be cutting grass.

Yeah.

Might just actually be cutting grass.

Sit down, enjoy your life, open your phone, 55 text messages from friends and family saying, congratulations.

Then also follow up, have you seen this?

Then you go on to X accidentally.

And then you just start reading things about your career.

Yeah.

He didn't have anywhere near as many tackles as bump, bump, bump, bump, bump.

This guy could never show up in the big game.

Highlights, low lights start getting run about you every single year, every single time.

Because that's just naturally, I think, think how sports kind of happen especially if somebody's going to go in from this team or somebody from this team is being represented there's only a certain amount of spots every single year so there's a lot of talking that goes on to a lot of these nominees every single year people get nominated a long time bam bam i will hang it up now i guess uh

sorry

three-time hall of fame nominee over run thank you yeah should have been four thank you i don't i think three was enough uh should have been two was a little bit too many maybe and one time was certainly a thank you that's very kind of you uh with With that being said, there was immediately, I had to come out and say, I do not deserve to be in the Hall of Fame.

I would like everybody to know that.

Shane Leckler should certainly get in in my eyes.

And then there's a couple other guys, too, that would probably, if we're going just strictly from a punter's perspective and how it goes, like Shane is my goat.

So like if Shane's not in there, I don't think there is a real conversation about it.

But I did that also because I didn't want people to think I actually should have been in there because then you got an onslaught of people going, fuck this,

okay.

Eight years as a punter, you know, and then you even got OGs probably in the game coming out being like we need to start having different tiers of this hall we need different halls you know we need the average this guy eight years as a punter is getting in here

like that's what og players would start saying so it's like to get in here to get nominated huge honor to get into the hall of fame obviously you're remembered forever and it's certainly dope we were there last hall of fame game got a tour of the entire place got to look the entire place it was beautiful you're part of football history forever but there's also i think there's some shit that comes alongside this getting nominated every single year also expectations and hopes.

Oh, yeah.

And then boom, it not happening.

So, like, I'm pulling for everybody to get in.

Now, the guys underline, any guaranteed first ballot guys?

You see, if that's a top row, Drew Brees, I anticipate first ballot with the records that he's has.

Super Bowl champ.

I mean, Frankie.

AJ Hawk.

Okay.

Okay.

A.J.

Hawk is not a first, first ballot guy because he's been retired more than five years.

AJ Hawk in the linebackers is up for the Hall of Fame.

We would like to let A.J.

Hawk know.

Hell yeah, buddy.

Hell yeah.

He was in Erlacher's division.

Yeah.

Okay.

At the same time.

Tough.

Same position.

I mean, that is a tough thing.

So this is one of those things.

Once again, AJ is going to say, nope, all the guys that want it, obviously huge honor.

If I get in, great.

I'd be honored.

If I don't, this obviously is not going to fit.

That's how AJ is going to undersell this.

Sure.

AJ's going to understand this.

AJ's family, AJ's coaches, AJ's friends, AJ's community that has supported him for a long time that have to battle against.

Well, how many did he, how, what did he, what did he, it's like,

I don't want to make excuses, but in the same fucking division that wasn't social media, where you only learn basically about things through what people wanted you to know about, there was a goat playing literally an hour and a half left of him in the same division at the same exact time.

Oh, I don't want to hear that.

He should be, it's like, well, he's all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay fucking Packers.

Is that pretty good or not?

Led the team to not only a highest defense ranking in the history of the Packers or whatever, but also a Super Bowl.

And then you go to Ohio State, this fucking guy, everything, it's like A.J.

Hawk, great football player.

We forget about how great of a football player he is and how big of a monster he is and what he was on the field because we talk so much shit to him on such a regular basis.

We've kind of become desensitized.

But he's a guy that's tried to run through your head a couple times, right?

Absolutely.

A.J.

was a special player, man.

Oh, yeah.

And literally did not care for anything.

Like, didn't want any of the spotlight.

Now, granted, he'd click clack if the underarmor people came with him.

he would certainly do that and he would try a little kung fu

if that would help his game out there but he was very like low-key for being a top five pick in the nfl and his head was the size of an actual mountain and he wasn't scared to run through people which is old school football that's right i feel like that's why he was the president of ohio for one time well you see his head and you think he's only a thumper he was so fast too like when he played in that 3-4 scheme in green bay and he was the backside linebacker.

I mean, he made more plays on run-throughs through the backside.

I I mean, he was so fast, so elite.

And then when he'd come downhill and take on a fullback, I mean, obviously he had great practice going against John Kuhn every day.

Every day, every day in practice.

What did they say?

They said they never let up one time for like seven years or so.

Yeah, it could, because then, you know, neither one of them were getting better.

You know, so no brother-in-law, even though it sounds like they would talk to each other about it and kind of be like, hey, we really don't need to be doing this every day.

But they did.

And John Kuhn, yeah, he evaporated like four or five of AJ's teeth throughout the course of them playing together.

And that's what AJ would do.

He'd just line right back up and do it again.

I would like to say to AJ, congratulations, man.

And he's going to undersell it for sure.

But we're pumped for him.

And we did that entire thing just to get to that.

Toxic tables here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt.

Nine-year NFL vet Darius J.

Butler.

D-Butts, I know you're sitting over there today, so we don't get to see the pants.

Just know that D-Butt's hat, hoodie, pants, and shoes all match perfectly.

Just know that he is

full outfit today.

Look incredibly cool.

D.

But we have a a great weekend of football ahead.

We do.

Not just only on Sunday and obviously Thursday kicking everything off and we can't wait for Monday night, every single Monday night.

It's always incredible.

And I'm sure there's some high school football and maybe good college playing on Friday night as well.

This Saturday slate Debut.

This is what we're talking about.

This is now, hey, now we're playing the game.

To chat a little bit more about this, let's head over to Hammer Don Don with one half of the Hammer Don.

Cowboys AP tone.

Massive weekend for college ball tone.

Yeah, an absolutely huge weekend.

This is one of those weekends where if one of your friends scheduled a wedding on this Saturday, that's just

a real damn shame because this is one that your ass is going to be on the couch all day watching great games.

There's four ranked on ranked games,

starting with the Oregon at Penn State, which is the game day game, which will be the whiteout, which will be at night.

It'll be an incredible environment.

Oregon at Penn State.

Right below that, Alabama at Georgia, just an all-time classic every single time they play.

Look for points in that one.

USC is going to Illinois to see if they're real or not as a ranked on rank.

Ole Miss and LSU is a ranked on rank.

We get to find out a lot about those two teams.

And then there's a lot of games where there's a ranked opponent or a ranked team going to a tough away opponent.

You're looking at Ohio State going to Washington, Indiana going to Iowa.

You also have Notre Dame who has to go to Arkansas.

TCU has to go to Arizona.

Arizona State.

Tennessee has to go to an undefeated Mississippi state.

Those are all ranked teams having to go play in tough places so we could see if we could get some upsets there.

And then Auburn and AM to just kind of a ranked team hosting a tough Auburn team.

It is a packed slate.

Those are 10 games that I went through that are absolutely must-watch all day.

Saturday is going to be incredible.

Okay.

Thank you, College Football, for doing that.

We're going to be up in Happy Valley for a white out.

Town.

It's going to be a white out up there.

Oh,

oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, we are Penn State.

Okay, let's talk about you being Penn State.

How do you feel about the team this year?

There's some stats coming out.

Okay.

Not very good ones.

Don't want to see the stats.

Good ones for who?

It depends on who you're looking at the stats from.

Could you explain a little bit on which side would you say good stats for?

Well, obviously always starts with the quarterback.

I want to see the quarterback stats.

For Oregon or for Penn State?

Penn State.

They're not good.

Oh, no.

What?

Yeah, there's a couple of really bad stats.

Start with his size, though.

Real good stats.

Okay, he's very tall.

Very tall.

He's from Ohio.

Yeah, tall.

Okay, so he's tough.

We know he's tough.

We watched him be tough.

He was in some big moments, had some massive, massive, like, uh, he's calloused, I think, from primetime.

I think he's able to figure that out.

Obviously, he's seen what it's like.

Um, obviously, the way the season ended wasn't the most perfect fairy tale type thing for him, but they haven't really played anybody, okay, which is uh, I guess, a part of the entire story.

That should be good stuff, and uh, yeah, um,

should be great,

QBR ranks, okay, okay,

This is QBR ranks.

So I don't know who's doing a QBR.

Probably PFF.

No.

No.

It's growth.

Okay.

ESPN.

Okay, so these are good stats.

I don't know if it's

easy.

We don't know about that either.

Now, Hembo stats are good stats.

Hembo, what Hembo sends us, good stats.

We are very appreciative of Hembo around here as a whole in this entire thing.

Penn State people aren't going to want to hear these particular stats.

But there is a narrative that Penn State hasn't been showing everything that they got because they haven't played anybody.

Ain't that right, right, Tone?

Isn't that what they were saying?

Like maybe they're holding things back because this was the obvious game that they were having to prepare for.

The first three games versus

some nobodies, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, the easiest schedule in all of college football.

Yeah, they were just running, you know, vanilla stuff on offense and defense.

They didn't want to put anything on tape that Oregon might see and be able to prepare for.

Okay, so that is what people are saying.

That's how the team looks.

Okay.

Okay, that's what people are coming up with now.

No, they're not playing their best football because of how 136th out of 136 is the difficulty of their schedule.

Okay, so it's the easiest thus far.

Here's a couple of QBR ranks for Drew Aller.

Overall, he's 106th.

136th is what we're going for.

Third downs, he's 133rd.

Oh, no.

Red zone, 131st.

Now, I have not watched every snap, but what the hell is that stat?

What is that all about?

Because I like Drew Aller.

I actually came into the season when Drew Aller was about to be the guy.

What have we seen from him in the first three games against nobody?

I guess he had a pick.

He doesn't have his four touchdowns, one pick, I guess, in these first three games.

Is the offense just running him, but are we just not letting him play?

Like, what is going on?

No, it doesn't look good.

But listen, they were 13-0 up at the half against Villanova.

But here's the deal: this is what James Franklin said.

What?

This is what James Franklin said.

Villanova's good ball cut.

They got McQueen.

They have a football team.

They went to the one AAA playoffs last year.

Are they playing their basketball team?

No, but what's old one of them that used to coach him?

He looks really good.

Yeah, maybe he's talking to football boys.

McQuade in him.

Maybe he's motivated.

But you know what James Franklin said?

Hey, we're building depth right now.

That's what we're doing.

Right now, we're playing the young guys.

We're getting the young guys in.

We're mixing combinations.

Oh, Drew.

We're building depth for down the road.

And that's exactly what he's been doing.

He's got this all figured out.

Listen, whenever I was in school and we played Coastal Carolina, we won 70 to nothing and put up 400 yards rushing.

But

nowadays.

Nowadays.

Nowadays, we're building depth.

You don't have to redshirt guys right away.

You can get some reps for some of the true freshmen.

So that's what they're doing.

But also, you got to give some reps to the people that you promise reps to whenever you're paying them money, which obviously is a part of the entire contract situation that we currently have.

So maybe it is that they haven't shown their best stuff, D.

But maybe that's the way we need that's bullshit.

We know how this goes.

They look, they got lucky.

They start off with a preseason.

You don't get a preseason in college.

You got, it sounded like three preseason games to me.

So almost like the NFL, we got a guy who looks like when he gets off the bus, should and could be the number one pick in the NFL.

So you would expect, like Connor said, oh, maybe he's just playing a half and getting pulled out of halftime.

And that's when you get, you know, the young guys in and they get their reps.

But 13-0 halftime against Villanova.

Villanova's.

You you saw him aqua.

Four touchdowns, one pick.

Like, what are we doing here?

Well, we're going to figure it out.

Got a tough Oregon team coming in.

I don't know what Dan Lanning's telling that team.

They just got done winning the Pilatypus.

They did.

Okay.

They just won the Pilatypus after beating Oregon State.

That's half beaver, half duck.

Yep.

Half beaver.

That's Platypus.

Beautiful.

They just got to hang that song bitch back in the Oregon facility for yet another year.

They're happy about that.

Drinking out of the Platypus all weekend.

Boom, boom.

They're rolling it off the back of the fucking pot.

That's what they're doing.

That's what they do up there.

They have a good time.

But they're ready for Penn State.

I mean, this team has looked good.

And a quarterback can spin it.

More can spin it.

And they haven't really had to do much either.

I mean, I mean, Oregon State, obviously, a game, but they have really steamrolled some people.

Nobody has done as good as Indiana has done.

True.

Now, that is just a matter of fact.

And they got Iowa this weekend.

Good luck, Ty.

We recorded another college football convo with Stanford Steve this morning.

And I'll tell you what, I enjoyed it immensely.

And college football is cooking, especially heading into a weekend where that team is going to get a chance to prove yet again that they're for real, even though nobody outside of the state maybe believes in them.

Kurt Signetti has reloaded an entire new team basically at some spots at Indiana, quarterback being one of them.

Last year, have an incredible run.

Oh, we'll do it again.

We bring in Fernando Mendoza, the quarterback from Cal last year, if you all recall us going to Berkeley when Daniel made that kick in those vans and a magical morning was had while Marshawn Lynch showed up and maybe brought some great vitamins alongside of him as well.

Fernando Mendoza comes over to Bloomington, Indiana this offseason.

Kurt Signetti's able to find some money somehow.

Guys, remember basketball team almost got a new coach.

And Sig said, oh, I'm starting to feel a little bit because we're trying to go to basketball again, but we'll make do.

They got the Heisen favorite now, which leads to John Matier injured, out for some time.

Thumb injury.

John Matier of Oklahoma.

The story of college football in my eyes.

Song Polotelli is going to have to get back on that horse.

Yeah, exactly.

That was a tough night.

That was a tough game for those Cowboys out there.

Song Polotelle is going to have to look.

He's going to go.

It's hard.

Yeah, it'll certainly go.

John Matier, though, I was thinking that they were the best team in the country because of him and because of Arbuckle, the offense coordinator.

He and Arbuckle obviously transfer in from Washington State.

And I say transfer.

That was

an offensive coordinator hired and then quarterback hired as well to come together.

This has happened on plenty of occasions.

It's been very successful a lot of the times.

And it was in Oklahoma.

Vetables defense was great.

He was great.

And he's out now.

They have a few weeks, I guess, before they got to really play Texas, I think.

So maybe they'll be able to recover.

But this changes the entire fabric of college football, I think, Tone.

And obviously, Godspeed to Matir as he recovers from the surgery.

Yeah, it's huge

because he was the Heisman favorite.

He was playing incredible.

Obviously, the Oklahoma defense, I said nine sacks the other day.

It was actually 10 sacks.

They're playing unbelievable.

So hopefully, you know, with that defense, with Hawkins Jr., who got some playing time last year after Jackson Arnold got benched, he's got a little bit of experience in that new offense.

Should be good.

But it is, you never want to say it's a good time to get hurt.

But they do have a buy.

They have Kenn State, and then it's Texas.

So I know that there were some reports yesterday that they're hoping they'll be back for Texas.

If he's not the game after that, hopefully they said, hopefully by the end of October, he will be back.

But it's huge because it kind of kills all the momentum this offense and this team has had.

And they would only get more momentum against, you know, in a bye week to get better.

And then playing against Kennedy State, which is always a fun game for the stars in that one before the Red River rivalry.

Yeah, you want to have good

golden flashes going through it, but they'll be back.

Julian Edelman, congrats on Patriot Hall, man.

That's right.

Happy for him.

And bum for John Matthier and for college football, but obviously, Godspeed on the recovery.

College football has been delivering.

The NFL also showing up in a big way.

The ratings are out for college football, big numbers, six and a half, seven million on games, the biggest games.

The NFL is still pulling 20.

4X that.

Crush that.

20, yeah, 21, 22 plus.

So for college football, we are still just at the very beginning of this entire thing for where we can head.

Same great game, even better environments.

College football is what people should be telling NFL fans.

Hey, we got it.

And if you don't have a college team, it's okay.

Pick one up.

And when you pick one up, go experience it.

And when you go experience it, it'll be like, this is the place for me.

It's literally football heaven at all these places.

They love ball.

They celebrate ball.

It's tradition to love ball.

And the new AP top 25 has Penn State sitting at three.

Miami Hurricane's at two.

And the Ohio State Buckeyes, who have to travel out to Washington at number one.

LSU, obviously at four is a big deal.

Georgia, Kirby and the boys finally get a little bit of respect.

Top five, Oregon.

Oklahoma at seven.

John Matier out.

How does that trend?

And then at eight, Florida State.

And there's a game against Miami right around the corner.

Elko's Texas A ⁇ M team.

We like them.

We have liked them, Tone.

With another year with Elko, we assumed they were going to be successful, right?

Yeah, they could run the ball.

They have a great O-line.

Obviously, the second year for Marcel Reed in that offense.

And then second year for Elko as a whole.

You know, his defense is going to get better every single year.

We do like A ⁇ M.

Texas, Indiana, Texas Tech.

Hey, Matt Respect.

Matt Respect.

Look out.

I appreciated the Texas Tech people coming after us.

I did.

I like that.

Because Texas Tech's been waiting a long time to say, hey, show us our respect.

Yeah, we're back.

And they are, by the way, they really are.

Ole Miss, obviously electrifying.

We'll be talking to Lane Kiffin today at about 2.05 on the many lives of Lane Kiffin, an E60 documentary that will be debuting this evening.

We saw the teaser.

It's like a minute 49 teaser we watch or a minute 39 teaser.

This is going to be electric.

This is going to be good for ball, I think, watching this entire thing about how Lane Kiffin basically has told the stories of his life.

Right there, he was actually saying, I saw a tweet where people were saying, man, I'd like to hear what actually happened there from his side.

And McGee goes, no shit, that's what we're doing.

And that is what they do.

All the stories, all the way from Tennessee to USC, obviously to the Raiders.

Now it all missed through the times with Alabama.

Like he kind of goes through it all.

I think it's going to be a good football history lesson for all of us.

And also, maybe we'll learn about this guy that you certainly have heard of, no matter where you are in the United States of America and what your thoughts might be on.

He's been in the limelight a long time.

His dad, obviously, legendary coach Monty, he was labeled a guru, a genius at a very young age, got a lot of opportunities.

Those things all exploded.

How did he learn through them all while remaining a good coach and still staying focused on task at hand?

The many lives of Link if it.

That's what we'll talk to him about.

That old Miss team is very good, though.

I think I saw another stat.

What was it?

Like 20% or 12% of their plays are explosive.

Hembo sent a bunch of stats over.

I mean, Hembo sent over a bunch of these stats here.

Something about old Miss is like 20%.

Something.

Their plays are all explosive.

All of their plays are explosives.

Everything is like 25-plus-yard completions.

Everything.

They go deep, deep, deep.

And then they got a running back or a quarterback now that could run his ass off, too, right there.

What's his name again?

Trinidad Chambliss.

Great name.

Yeah.

Also, national champion, I believe, right?

D2 Ferris State last year, yeah.

Okay, he's a beast.

So we'll be excited to see all of these teams play it.

Go ahead.

No other team in America has more explosive plays through the air than Ole Mist.

They have 25 for 20 plus yards.

A third of their completions is an explosive play.

There it is.

33% of their completions are explosive plays.

They are exciting.

And once again, that goes back to Lane Kiffin and his offense.

And also, here's him throwing an OOP in Memphis after a turnover.

Go ahead and get that.

All right.

That's Lane Kiffin, the many lives of Oak tonight.

We'll talk to him at 205.

The NFL is delivering in a huge way.

And we haven't had a chance to really hear from the barbarian.

We haven't really had an opportunity to hear from the trenches.

Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for Super Bowl champion AQ Shipley's takeaway.

week three of the NFL season what do we got AQ Detroit goes big to bully Baltimore we go down to Baltimore first and let me tell you that the boys in Detroit ran something I haven't seen in a very long time maybe since the 1930s and when we look at this We catch it a little late right here, but you see the two tight ends motion out to the left.

They start with three guys in the eye behind Jared Goff.

They motion out two tight ends.

We're just going to run a simple zone play.

This was the flavor of the week.

They ran this formation about 30 times in this game, and they gave some different wrinkles.

Right here, you see two backs in the backfield.

We send Gibbs as eye candy, we send Brock right to the right, we run downhill.

Let's get back in that super high formation.

We're going to motion two tight ends over to the right.

Guess what we're going to do?

Watch how pretty this is.

Watch how clean this is.

We're going to run duo to the right, double team, double team.

Look at that.

Can you run behind that?

How big is that hole?

Yeah, I think I could run behind that.

Now, backed up in our own

end zone.

Look at what we got again.

Super eye formation.

Two times

like a.

What's that?

Like a human centipede?

Whoa.

I was going to say a train.

A logomoto.

Like a dance train.

Yeah, like a congalon.

Yeah, like a congalon.

I was thinking human centipede.

Yeah, I can see that because where the helmets are.

And once Goff leans down, takes a snap, it's like Laporte is just in his butt.

Yeah, that's what you were thinking.

Yeah, I can see how you would think that.

Other people maybe think, you know, a line.

I get that.

I get that.

Marching in a line.

Movies, man.

Five straight.

Yeah, I got you.

Yeah.

Gifs, memes.

Exactly.

You see them, you know.

Yeah.

People's decisions.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All of it.

There's reasons for those to show.

Games.

Yeah, go ahead.

Go ahead, though, AQ.

Yeah, this is the only way you can beat Baltimore.

We saw Kansas City do it in the playoffs a couple years ago, and then right here, you got to go in.

When they try and be the bullies, you bully the bully.

Let's do it again.

Big formation, downhill duo.

Let's get people on people, hat on a hat, and just beat the shit out of people.

How about the Baltimore Ravens?

This is your takeaway yesterday.

Yep.

You said, man, just Detroit going in there and punching the Baltimore Ravens in the mouth in their house is a wild takeaway.

Coach B.A.

said the same exact thing.

It is crazy.

Two 90-plus-yard drives.

Yeah, absolutely.

Because it's one thing to go into somebody's house and beat them.

Like, they've been beat at home, obviously, in big games, but to just get absolutely bullied, like two 95-plus-yard touchdown drives where they're just running, running, running, running the ball down your throat.

That's tough to do against any team, especially a team known for their physicality.

Well, what about the other side of AQ?

Like, how did the Lions get seven sacks on Lamar Jackson?

Like obviously Hutch, but were you able to see what they were doing on that side?

Because I mean it was basically something we've never seen from Lamar before.

You never see him get sacked that many times.

I thought Shepard did a great job.

They played spy most of the game on Lamar Jackson.

And when you do that, you take away a little bit of his run because when he doesn't have something right away, he wants to run.

Well, he doesn't have that because there's a spy sitting there.

And then it ended up being late and you end up getting these sacks.

But then they dropped seven in coverage most of the night.

So you go seven in coverage to cover three receivers or four receivers there's nothing there and then you go to try and run and you don't have it because you got that spy sitting yeah lamar was awesome some of those throws i saw yeah i mean he is spectacular to watch is baltimore gonna fix it on the defensive side it's more a question for d butt over there but i think

i think they win if they hand the call sheet over

No, no, don't be doing that.

Don't be doing it.

Let's go.

Chuck.

We need you, Chuck.

I got bets on the Ravens to win the Super Bowl chuckle.

Let's go to the next one.

We teased this one earlier because this is a big deal.

Dog pound, big D dominance.

Yeah.

Big dog pound, big D dominance.

Okay.

These guys are flying off the tape.

When you look at this, let's take a look at the top five pick.

Mason Graham lined up to the left.

You'll see him circled.

Malik Collins been playing forever, sets the pick.

And they just meet at the quarterback in less than two seconds.

That's right.

Now let's take a look at Miles Garrett over here on the right.

You'll see a circle coming.

Tucker Kraft come in motion.

He's going to try and kick him out.

Subtle move, avoid, get back underneath, make the play.

That's incredible.

He's going to win with a little stein kill.

He did.

Jordan Ray.

Dead leg there.

I mean, it's incredible.

How good is that?

Yeah.

He's a good player.

He's a good player.

He's powerful.

He's agile.

He's fat.

He's dominant.

He's confident.

This guy's unbelievable.

He is unbelievable.

That's why Haslam said, what?

Is he want 40 million?

Done.

All right.

Fuck it.

Don't even need to meet with him.

Don't meet with me.

Exactly.

Say no more, my friend.

Just tell us a number in that entire thing.

Go ahead, A.

Kush.

Yeah, let's take a look at this next play.

Aiden Huntington.

Not Aiden Hutchinson.

Aiden Huntington.

Rookie, 6'1 ⁇ , 280 pounds out of two lane.

Just beat Aaron Banks.

Their big free agent signing.

Jumps around.

Looks like a little shades of Aaron Donald.

Whoa!

Whoa!

That's a big name, A.K.U.S.

Aaron Donald.

I don't want to oversell this because he's the greatest player that's ever played on the defensive side of the ball.

But 6'1280, same type of move, same type of quickness.

I mean, he's jumping off the tape.

He's got hands like Robert Mathis, too, coming off of there.

How good is that?

Hey, you give me that quick at that side.

Make statements.

Hey, Aaron Donnell, you said.

Are the Browns just going to have the greatest defensive line in the history of football and win 12 games a year now?

Yes.

Let me give you a couple stats here, right?

So

week one.

Seven yards of offense for the Cincinnati Bengals against this Cleveland Browns defense in the second half.

Oh, yeah, I remember.

Let's go to week two.

Baltimore Ravens.

What do they like to do?

They like to pound the rock.

They like to run it, right?

13 yards rushing and 23 yards rushing for Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry.

Shutting it down.

Lamar throwing.

Let's go against this week.

What have we said about the Green Bay Packers?

Arguably one of the best teams, if not the best team through the first couple weeks.

Superbow pick.

Shut them down.

Beat them up.

Met at the quarterback all game long.

All the stats about the Cleveland Browns defense right now.

Yup, yep, yep.

They're the best.

They're the best.

They're the best.

They're the best.

They're the best.

That was not a conversation going in this season, was it?

No, definitely not.

It was Mike Orderbank.

You guys got Kenned Pickett everybody.

He's going to wear gloves.

He's going to wear gloves in the dog pound.

Is that that what's going to happen?

That was a conversation that happened.

Shador Sanders, fifth-round pick.

Let's give this guy more opportunity.

Why don't we let him play?

That was a conversation that happened.

Dylan Gabriel, he was drafted third round, but

he's starting quarterback.

Well, he can spin a little bit, but is he going to be able to, only Drew Brees and Kyler have been able to do that?

Is he...

And then Joe Flacco, he's just there for what, to hang out?

What is Joe Flacco?

Those are all conversations that happened in the offseason.

Not one conversation was had.

And we're part of the problem.

Jim Schwartz was the defense coordinator of that Cleveland Browns team.

Then he spent $40 million on Miles Garrett.

Obviously, they're very committed to the defense, at least to one particular player.

And last year or two years ago, their defense at home was like the greatest in history.

I think of Jim Schwartz, I automatically think of good defense.

And I guess with all the weapons that they have, this is sustainable too, right, for them?

Oh, yeah.

And they got a rookie second rounder out of UCLA playing linebacker, Carson Schwesinger.

Oh, yeah.

Love them.

Love them.

I mean, they have talent everywhere.

And they picked up some pieces, some veteran pieces, like a Malik Collins, who has been around forever, but always been a good player, not a great player.

And he is shining in this defense.

Deba, what do you like about Jim Schwartz's deed?

What do you like about the Cleveland Bats?

They always fly around, always going to be on the same page.

And when you have a guy like Miles Garrett, who's on an all-time pace, I believe he's only behind like Reggie White when it comes to like where he is age and sacks.

Like when you have a player like that that changes the math every Sunday, you got other guys, young guys, that just fly around and on the same page.

Not to mention Denzel Ward, who's one of the best cornerbacks in the league as well.

Greg Newsome.

I like everything they have, but you know with a Schwartz defense, they're going to fly around.

They're going to be on the same page, especially at home.

They're a damn good football team.

They are a damn good football team.

They got to figure out their offense.

Well, I actually texted him this morning.

I said, you know what, going back and watching that second half, I think Joe Flacco started to figure it out.

I really do.

I mean, hey, he didn't play great all game.

He didn't play great for 59 minutes and

42 seconds.

But when it mattered, Joe gets him right to the line.

Boom.

Completes the slank.

Gets the boys on a ball, spikes it, field goal team comes out, we win.

65-year-old.

Yeah, we win a game.

What does Joe Cool do?

He wins football games.

And what do you do as a Packers fan?

Yeah, I mean, you watch it and say,

I hope this Cleveland team's really good.

Because, boy, we looked very bad.

That's what their defense does, though.

It's the big dogs in Cleveland, big days dominance.

And it makes sense.

It does make sense.

What's the third takeaway, Akyush?

Big bucking backup.

We like this game.

Nailed that one.

Absolutely nailed that one.

I like what you're doing.

All right, so let's take a look at this group, right?

Let's start before we let this play run.

You got Graham Barton, their first round pick from a year ago, played left tackle at Duke.

Should be their starting center.

Because of all the injuries, Tristan Works is out.

Let's move our starting center out to left tackle.

Ben Bredeson, starting guard.

Let's move him into center.

They're down to their third guard, Klein, who they drafted a year ago.

Started with Michael Jordan.

Went to the next guy.

They're both out.

Let's go to the

right side and right tackle.

They got Charlie Charlie Heck playing right tackle.

He's been practice squad the last couple years.

It's backups across the board and people playing different positions.

Let's watch Graham Barton right here.

Let this thing run.

Get off.

Watch this.

They run a counter.

Get Barton around.

Boom!

Bury him down.

That is a big bucking burial right there.

How good is that?

First play of the second half.

Let's watch the offensive line just wash everybody down, put the foot in the ground, get backside.

16-yard run.

How do you set the tone in the second half?

You run the ball and you beat him up up front.

Boston's a big bucker.

Yeah, he is.

That's a good one.

Let's take a look at this last one.

Look at the protection by this whole line.

Look at the protection.

Look at the protection.

Nowhere near.

Baker, trust him.

Look at that ball to Igbuka down the sidelines.

Igbuka said that

Baker said that Ibuka disrespected that ball because he went one-handed with it when it was a good enough ball to catch it with two hands.

Then he called him a rookie.

Now we're hearing that they don't treat him like a rookie down there from Levante David.

Igbuka has surprised everybody with how Matori is and how awesome he is.

He's become a very quick weapon for that Buccaneer team.

But you're saying they're nowhere near healthy in the most important part, which is the offensive line and are still undefeated.

How are they getting it done?

Just strictly by good play, by the center-playing left tackle, or whenever they get their guys back, are they going to take it to a whole nother level?

Yeah, when they get their guys back, they are going to take it to a whole nother level.

But the interesting thing, when you watch them on tape, Kevin Carberry is their offensive line coach.

That's who Liam Cohen brought there.

That's who Liam wanted to take to Jacksonville.

They didn't let him out of the building.

because he's that good.

They are well coached across the board.

When you look at their double teams, they're hip to hip.

Nobody's getting getting split.

So it doesn't matter who they're putting in there, they're showing up.

That's awesome.

Congrats to the Bucs, making a big bumping back.

Hell yeah.

That's really good news.

Thank you, AQs, for your takeaways.

Feels like I learned a little bit more.

And it feels like I learned a little bit more about ball.

Can't wait to see you're in the trenches.

You know, top five performing offensive lines from week three.

I'm hoping there's a team in there, okay?

Deserves a little bit more respect.

And hopefully that'll happen.

Huh?

I hope so too.

Don't you think?

Yeah, it's about that down.

Vocal leader on the offensive line at guard.

That never happens.

Feels like offensive linemen should be happy about that.

Agreed.

Like,

promote that.

Maybe not be a hater of that.

Do you think that happens anywhere?

They were on in week one.

They weren't in week two.

It's only week three.

And if they're in it two out of three weeks, that's pretty good.

We'll see.

Wait, they were on at week one?

Oh, yeah.

Five.

Oh, shit.

Yeah, they're doing it.

He wanted to drop them out.

Yes, he's trying.

Remember, he put a losing team up or one.

Oh, yeah.

That's why I was in the middle of the day.

we started the entire thing, yeah.

So it's tough.

Let's just make sure we're continuing to be fair and square on this.

Let's make sure we're only going with what the eyes are saying.

Let's not be, you know, getting texts from coaches.

Yeah, exactly.

Hey, you're number two this week.

That was so cool.

Good breakdown.

Don't be getting swayed from that.

The eye in the sky never lies, and my eyes on that tape never lie.

Okay, well, I hope that's the case.

I do.

You know who lied a little bit?

Who's that?

A little bit.

Oh,

I guess misled,

but it was a great great headline.

Adam Schrefter put on a tweet.

Sheffield.

That said, Micah Parsons said, it's going to be painful to tackle Dak Prescott.

Describing tackling Dak Prescott, it's going to be painful.

People read that and go, Micah's out for blood.

Micah.

Micah's looking to it.

And certainly, Micah Parsons on sacking Dak Prescott, it's going to be painful.

Okay, so.

Period.

Period.

Okay, no context.

There might be people that are like very very good people that might have thought one particular way but a lot of people thought and read that and said

mike's about to break that half dude he's gonna inflict maximum pain

pain full the maximum amount we want that thing filled to the brim of pain now that's how some people think i don't think that's how shafter took it whenever he posted it but some people took it that way rob marty associated press provided a video of the full context of the conversation listen to mic actually talk about dak i think it's a pretty good little clip and what if you get that opportunity?

I know you will want to with Dak.

What would that feel like?

You know,

it's going to be painful.

You know what I mean?

Dak's my guy.

You know, he was always like a good mentor for me.

But you know what it is.

He always told me if I ever faced him that, you know,

it'll be a great matchup.

So I'm excited to see what Sunday

brings itself.

It's going to be painful for himself.

Yeah.

Because he's going to hurt his guy, Dak.

Man, I didn't read it that way at all.

I was like, Micah wants to hurt this guy.

Then I thought back to what was being said about Dak during training camp.

Remember, a little mic duck?

Oh, yeah.

On the sideline, a little catch.

I'm like, mate, what the fuck is going on there?

It's complete opposite.

Mike is like, Dak's my guy.

Dak also leader of that team.

I think Mike McCarthy said, Dak is

for sure alpha in there.

I like to hear that from Micah.

I like the full context of that.

Yeah, and I know you said Shefty might have misled a little bit.

I think Micah's lying.

What?

I think he's lying.

I think he can't wait.

to sack Dak Prescott because...

You're saying he was saying it's painful for him, but it led it off to be painful for him.

I think think he's lying because I played with a great all-time pass rusher who should be in the Hall of Fame, Robert Mathis.

And when 18 came back into the house that he built, got a stadium outside of Lucasfilt, he couldn't wait to hit 18.

And he did.

Strip sack,

fungal.

Yeah, he can't wait.

So I think

Mike is bullshit.

I respect it.

Hey, I like the fact that he paid respect to Dak, former teammate.

You know, that's good for culture stuff, for how I'll view Dak as a leader.

I think that's good

going forward.

But to Robert Mathis' point,

this

with Peyton like this is photo.

Yeah.

How many do that?

Fourth or fifth, whatever the amount of sacks that Robert Matthews has.

It's so much.

And obviously, everybody talks about Dwight Freeney.

Robert Mathis is on the other side.

Just full chaos.

Yeah.

Strip sack.

Yeah, it's his stat.

They didn't have it for a long time.

He was the guy that did it.

He started off on the kickoff team.

He started off on the kickoff.

He was covering kicks, and then he turned himself into the guy that he is off the edge.

And to your point, Hall of Fame conversation should certainly take place but him hitting payton was certainly the one oh yeah yeah yeah because boy they were teammates what 14 years however many years and all every time in practice you know when quarterbacks you know pat the ball hit you then you know d line me you beat your guy can't get near the quarterback now finally sunday you can act no red jersey on yeah where were they where was that ball snapped at

they were backed up

it was some good coverage in the back end

yeah it was good coverage on the back end obviously payton's getting a little testy you know uh

man that's good stuff that's good bring that back one more time started on the four i just want to watch wes in the slot he got open really i was i was looking for him all night

what color of the glass he was going to him he was trying to

team work baby

yeah it definitely is that's awesome yeah uh i'll be excited to see that game how do you feel about it all how do you feel about the entire context of the conversation of that particular game uh i mean i don't mind it i think it's weird that they're trying to make a big deal that there's not going to be like a big big video package for Micah coming back.

Like, it seemed like that's kind of what, and I get it, like, typically that probably would happen, but he never won anything.

Dammit Smith is a little bit different.

Yeah, I mean, Jerry...

That's literally what Jerry says.

Yeah, exactly.

Jerry's saying that kind of, you know, obviously amplifies everything, and it's like, okay, well, Jerry, come on.

Obviously, people are going to be pissed about that, but he never won anything.

I mean, I think

it is going to be cool just to kind of...

see because the leading up to it all that we're going to have to talk about it just with the you know micah going back there.

But then there's going to be the immediate aftermath, too, of

if he has two sacks against the Cowboys and the Packers throttle him, like that following Monday, I'll be very excited to see that.

But it'll be interesting.

And their left guard rookie, first-round pick, Tyler Booker, is out for the next four weeks.

A lot of bad news coming on today.

Jerry's quote there that we popped up from Machoya

was fantastic.

I don't think that's appropriate this way.

Emmett, it was a different story.

That's not to diminish mica i think maca's got enough welcome out there okay we just need to show we've got anecdotes for that so they'll put a picture up of him yeah

congratulations it might even say like thank you michael on the michael it might i wouldn't i wouldn't put it past gary he caught him michael 14 times he did he did he hates his guts there's no two ways about it they had a bad ending yeah they certainly had a bad ending there good uh beginning we'll talk about danny dimes here in indianapolis aq have you been following this colts I know you're working for the Cardinals, and now you're a commentator, so you're obviously going to be biased towards that team forever.

If we start seeing them...

Yeah, every week.

Yeah, we're going to have to start wondering that because he's actually doing this for them.

On team plane, I think.

So this guy ain't going to say shit about that entire time.

But I do wonder if you've been watching the Indianapolis Colts.

I hope.

Because, boy, this team is spectacular.

All the talent that we've had over the last few years seemingly being used at maximum occupancy.

Danny Dimes' offense has been spectacular.

He's calling out out blitzes.

He's putting us in the right place.

He's telling guys where to line up.

And the other guys, by the way, not only are they lining up perfectly, they're all on the same page.

You're seeing the picture the same exact way.

People are cutting off routes.

Danny Dimes hit them.

Danny's shuffling in a pocket.

Quentin Nelson's yelling and screaming to people.

You know why this all is maybe more crazy than you could ever imagine?

Because you finally get a guy in Danny Dimes who got a little bit of experience.

It didn't go great, but that experience.

96%.

Was that what it was?

96% on the athletic fan poll?

Yes.

97% optimism.

93%.

Okay, so 93%

of the Colts fans

who don't know ball, if they're the same people that were coming after me last year.

And they are.

Okay, and that's the people that it would be.

The super active on the internet.

They

polls people.

We appreciate how.

excited they are about the Colts, we hope, as a whole, but also how passionate they were about their causes and how they felt.

They were certainly very, very, very aggressive with me.

They don't know ball.

Okay, that was proof.

Here is what the positive thoughts or optimism for the team going into the season was.

The Indianapolis Colts were deadly worse than the Saints.

And the Saints had just an open understanding that they weren't really going to be able to win for a while.

Hey, we're hiring Kellen Moore.

It's going to be a process.

So give him a couple years.

That's basically what everybody has said down there.

The Colts, 7%.

This was after they hired hired or named Danny Dimes as the starting quarterback.

Mine was the same.

I felt the same way.

Now I'm all in on him.

Yeah, it was.

You said that.

You, you, you, yeah, we understand.

We've been waiting, man.

It's been a revolving door quarterback.

We fucking found him.

You should have known.

You should have known we found him.

Okay, he's this big.

What evidence was there?

Yeah, that's right.

The Vikings tried to pay him.

The Vikings were.

Oh, that's the evidence.

They wanted to pay him more.

He got in the building.

Kevin O'Connor's like, holy shit, we got to give this guy an amount of money.

Then Colts offered something.

The Vikings were like, we'll go more because he was in the building.

And then he's like, I don't think you guys are going to really let me start here, right?

Colts seemingly going to give me an actual competition chance over here.

I'll take less money to go over there.

And on that money note, here's QBR ranks.

This year, thus far, we're only three weeks into the season.

Danny Dimes is getting paid $14.5 million this year if all of his shit hits.

If all of his incentives hit, which $300,000 has already hit or something like that.

And he's well on his way, I assume, to continue to hit him.

Jared Goff, $32.6 million.

Okay, love that the Detroit Lions are back.

Also, that's not that bad of a cap hit.

And remember, when Jared Goff was traded to Detroit, one of the big conversations was, who's going to pay this guy's salary?

That was a big part of it.

So the Detroit Lions saying, we'll pay the salary was a huge piece.

Gave us the first rounder for that.

Yeah, they're like, thank you for, we gave him this deal.

We fucking so much.

Shouldn't have.

And they extended him.

They gave him the four years, 160 or 100, whatever it was, to probably lessen that cap hit and pay their guy.

Yeah, so Brad Holmes up there working some magic.

And also Jared Goff showing his love and appreciation, I think, to the Detroit Lions organization as a whole.

Worth every single penny.

So then you go down to number three, Lamar Jackson.

Him and his mom negotiated this deal, $43.5 million.

At this stage of what quarterbacks are getting paid, you think Lamar Jackson's not getting paid anywhere near what he should.

His next contract is going to be outrageous, especially now that he's the number one passer rating.

Josh Allen just won the MVP, 36.3 million.

He just got paid a little bit ago.

And Patrick Mahomes kind of set the tone for this whole thing when he signed a,

we thought it was a 10-year deal.

Turned out it was an eight-year deal worth like $44 or something like that, million a year.

But we were told it was 50 a year.

Yeah, 10 years, 500 million is what the original reports were.

And then it gets down, it's like eight years,

44 million.

It's like, well, where'd all the other money go?

I feel like that wasn't the original report.

Maybe we were just wrong.

But that long-term deal with Patrick Mahomes kind of started setting up everybody else because they were able to do salary cap gymnastics.

Veech was able to keep everybody that they wanted to keep.

Now, granted, Tyreek Hill was not able to remain Kansas City Chief, but basically everybody else, they've been able to kind of manage because of Patrick Mahomes' deal.

And anytime somebody signs a new deal, all the pundits on the internet tell people or tell Patrick Mahomes for a good reason, he needs to walk into Brett Veech's office and say, I want new deal.

There's guys making $50 million.

There's guys making damn near $60 million.

There's people that are going to make $70 million playing quarterback in the NFL right around the corner.

And the number one QBR right now is making 14 and a half.

And for that, we thank him.

You can build up the rest of the team.

This is just like rookie contracts.

Aaron Rodgers is on for what, $10 million, I think, this year is the money he's getting paid.

You can still build a good team around that.

I thought that was going to be the way you kind of have to do it to win.

Then the Philadelphia Eagles won, and they've paid everybody.

So I think if you've got a good salary cap gymnast, I think you can make some magic happen.

But your quarterback getting paid from every stat that we've seen basically over the last however many years, when your quarterback is taking that bigger percentage, it's tough to build a winner around it.

Yeah, there's no doubt.

This only furthers the narrative about developing quarterbacks.

And when you look at a guy like Danny Dimes, a Baker Mayfield, a Sam Darnold, and maybe Carson Wentz next, right?

I think

you look at this, they're just not prepared coming out of college.

The games are two completely different games, college football versus pro football.

You go back to the mid-2000s, the game mirrored the NFL.

The college game mirrored the NFL.

Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, everybody in the Big Ten was running pro-style offense.

SAC is Alabama's running rough.

They were, yeah, they were doing whole things.

And now everybody is just trying to win.

You don't have enough time because people might transfer.

We just need an offense that's easy, one progression reads, and hand the ball off and run RPOs.

That's what college football is.

And so then you expect these guys to step in and beat Danny Dimes in year four or five in year one, and it's just not the case.

So you're saying it's quite a leap whenever it comes to figuring out what the hell the other side of the ball is doing to you because these are professionals and they spend their entire lives on it and it's the all-star game for the past five generations playing against you.

Is that what you're saying?

Because defenses are super, like, much more sophisticated.

Oh, yeah.

Like you broke, you showed the Brian Flores disguised defense at the Vikings ran the other day.

I think J.J.

Watt quotes tweeted and put it out there.

You see guys moving and going crazy and everybody's talking about Matt Patricia and what he's going to be able to do with that Ohio State defense.

Is it defenses are much more sophisticated in the NFL?

Like how much different is the sophistication levels of the defense?

And why does it, from a defensive guy's perspective, why do quarterbacks struggle at a young age playing against you?

So it's the same thing that AQ was talking about.

And on the college level for defenses, since offenses are getting up to the line of scrimmage so quickly and calling plays from the sideline, the defenses have to be simplified as well.

We got to get lined up.

We got to get a call out.

I don't know if they have the green dot for defenders in college, but getting that communicated across the field is a big deal.

So when you get to the NFL level, Now, not only is it the defensive coordinator making the calls, but you have a guy like Levante David or somebody, Bobby Wagner, or other signal callers out there making adjustments to the call made.

So you have, that's when, you know, you always hear be a pro, be a pro.

So now you have the guys when you have 10 seconds left on the play clock, a guy, you may be blitzing, I may switch to blitz, hey, I'll cover, you blitz.

So you have all those different adjustments.

And coaches got to, you know, I think Brady talked about this.

It's on the coaches too, because a lot of coaches get passes on not developing these quarterbacks.

And some of these coaches just aren't good to that level where they can be patient and help them where they need to grow.

So when you get a guy like Danny Dimes who gets to a place like this where things are in place around him, you can really grow.

You can really have that confidence in yourself.

You cannot, you can't play any position in NFL where you're actually thinking.

Like you have to just be prepared and react.

You have to play.

And the only way you can react is by, you know, already being prepared and understanding what's coming, having answers, anticipating things, hitting throws, because guys aren't, you got to throw a lot of guys open.

What's open in NFL is completely different.

what's open in college.

As a defender, if I'm on a guy, if I'm on tie, I'm here.

Most quarterbacks, I can make that that play.

NFL Sundays, like, nah, you got to be on there.

You got to be a step ahead.

So it's just a completely different game.

You got to have patience sometimes.

And a lot of, we don't, we don't, owners, front office, you don't have that same type of patience or development around these guys.

So it's a tough task.

Well, the issue is, and I wrote about this in my notes section in 2015, 16.

I thought social media had amplified people's lack of patience in professional sports because back in the day, you would have to read like a journalist's thoughts on you, or maybe an opinion would get sent into the paper.

But if ESPN or some TV person wasn't covering your shit, nobody really, you know, either knew how bad it was or you didn't have an opportunity to hear from literally all of your fans.

Now with social media, you see how fans react and how people feel.

So if you even give off the perception of being okay with what's going on, you're facing revolt potentially.

Like on a complete, why is this our, this guy doesn't care, this lady doesn't care at all they're okay with us just being bad why would I care as a fan and you're seeing people say that like in droves and I'm not saying that every business makes decisions because of things that they see on the internet but there's a reason why Yelp became what Yelp became and there's a reason why like surveys are a thing whenever you see an abundance of things I think it's hard to sit in the pocket while everybody is attacking and saying we're gonna stick with it we're gonna stick with it because in the off chance that you're wrong and you're patient with something and it's not it never pans out.

You have fucking lost everything in doing that.

So, like, the quicker trigger, I think, is happening strictly because of the amount of information that people in decision-making

positions have with how everybody reacts.

Like, think about owners learning how all of their fans feel for the first time opening their exponent.

Like, think about Jim Merce opening that fucking thing for the first time and just going, What's this?

Mentions.

See what this is,

brother.

Oh, my.

Somebody tell them we did good.

You know, like somebody's, because now it's just like, ah.

So I think that's why they make better decisions.

So like the quarterback patience thing, and I guess we're part of the problem as well, because Anthony Richardson needed to be developed, needed to be developed, needed to be developed.

So as he's developing, you're trying to figure out like, does he have all the traits that when he's developed, he's going to be a guy?

Like how patient do you have to be?

So I think that's why this competition with Danny Dimes is such a big deal.

But to your point, if New York Giants would have been patient with Danny Dimes, is Danny Dimes an MVP type player for the New York Giants?

If they would have been patient with Baker at Cleveland, is he an MVP-like player at Cleveland?

Sam Darnold in New York, that list of people that kind of goes on

the merry-go-round is very big.

So it's an interesting dynamic right now with college in the NFL.

And even once you get good in the NFL, like once you're good, now it's...

almost harder to continue to be good.

Like all these young quarters, whoever, Jaden Daniels or whoever, hey, okay, CJ, you took CJ, you took the league by storm your first year.

But now when you're coming into the league and everybody has a plan for you to take away, you know, what you do best, what's your counter?

You know, like we were spoiled for the teams we rooted for, you know, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Brett, Big Ben, like these guys were good every week.

You know, every week, you get a minute, 13, 11 o'clock, two weeks.

We're getting at least a field goal.

We're getting a touchdown.

Like, you know, those things.

But to do that consistently throughout the league, week in and week out, year in and year out, at that position is tough because this is all guys.

This is all you know chuck peganos and the guys around the league are thinking about jim schwartz they're thinking about jeff hat you're getting a plan for this guy specifically for this week to put him in the best position to do what he does not as good as you know you take away his fastball it's tough to do week in and week out louie arumo you know he's out there drawing it off for the indianapolis coach week cam bynum's conversation will be running about 2 30 ish or so he was electrifying but he mentioned tom brady there for you tom brady's been talking about this well and that's the thing like we say like if the giants had patience like the giants might have just hired the wrong people every single time.

Like you can't rule that out either.

Tom Brady talked about when he was a rookie on Cower, basically, you know, his QB coach had a heart attack, passed away really early.

So Belichick became the de facto QB coach of Tom Brady's rookie year.

And like what he talked about was, you know, the development of quarterbacks is so important because, you know, some guys just bring a system and they say, hey, this is my system.

This is what we're going to run.

You're going to look here.

If it's not there, you're going to throw here.

Whereas when Brady was a rookie in the NFL, Bill Belichick comes in and he says QB coach, and he's saying, Hey, this team runs cover one when we are in this formation.

The reason they do this is because their DC likes to do this with this player.

This team runs cover three in third and five because this team runs cover, you know, zero with blitzes on third and long because they're super aggressive.

Whereas that's not happening now with these, you know, younger QBs.

So the reason a resurgence is happening for know Danny Dime Sam Darnold Geno Smith Baker Mayfield like because those guys go somewhere they get coached correctly they get put in an offense that isn't just like hey if this is here that will be there but on Sunday if you ask a question and this reminds me of Mac Jones when Matt Patricia became the OC of Mac of Mac Jones in New England the the kind of process was hey Mac Jones asked him about what happens if there's a blitz and he didn't have an answer for him and that's also the problem that the players you know you don't hear about because hey this player stinks it's his fault.

It has nothing to do with the coach.

So, Tom Brady's saying if you raise the expectations for a player, the player will raise the expectations for himself.

The more you put on, and maybe you'd be underwater, but maybe the better he'll perform.

But what if it's the wrong guy?

They can't retain all that shit.

You know, that's the, then there's a whole nother side of the conversation.

But Tom Brady's been very open about: hey, I don't think the game is anywhere near as sophisticated as it needs to be for these quarterbacks, and you're only affecting the game as a whole, is what he says.

But I'll tell you what here in Indianapolis, we're pumped for whatever happened with Dave.

Go ahead and run that thing.

Now, Ty, we have a minute and a half, and we have to.

We have to mention baseball.

Baseball is having a big time right now.

Yeah, without a doubt, there are five days left of the season.

So a bunch of teams are still alive right now.

But the biggest story currently, unfortunately, Foxy, is the Detroit Tigers are in the midst of one of the biggest collapses in baseball history.

They've lost seven straight games.

I believe it was on July 8th.

They had a 14 and a half game lead in the division.

And as you can see there, you know, it has just continually been stripped down by the Cleveland Guardians.

And they are the first team

of all time.

They've eliminated

a 13.5 lead game in the division over the last month or so.

They're 17 and three over their last 20 games.

So them and the Tigers are tied.

I believe they play another game tonight.

And then there are four games after this.

Yankees clinched last night.

They could still win the ALEs to the Blue.

Thank you, who the Blue Jays are in.

Red Sox are still alive.

Seattle clinched,

I believe it was last night as well.

They were battling with the Houston Astros for a long time.

Houston has also collapsed quite a bit, and that's kind of getting taken away by what the Tigers are doing.

And then you can see on the right side there with the NL, kind of a lot of the usual suspects.

Most of these teams have already clinched.

The Mets

who everyone's looking at because they have been absolutely horrendous as of late.

So everyone's still alive.

A lot of good baseball coming up over the next like five to seven days.

A lot of very meaningful baseball happening.

Very meaningful.

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I'll tell you what.

BA gives a good cadence.

He does.

Oh, yeah.

I think he gets pretty jacked up too.

A couple of jump off sides one time.

That's AQ Shipley, 12-year NFL vet, nine-year NFL vet, Darius J.

Butler is here.

The Toxic Table is here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt.

Live from Hammer Done

is AP Tone.

Tone, good to see you.

College football is about to be crazy, and gombling is obviously going to continue to be awesome.

Are the people up or are the sports books up?

Sports books.

Yes.

Boy, it's big time.

Jeez.

Real big time.

They got us in the first quarter.

Mm-hmm.

Okay.

They got us.

For the rest of this game, we fucking start seeing it.

Stay hot.

We got them right where we want them.

That's right.

Because they're getting a little bit too comfortable.

Their AI that's cooking up the algorithms to figure out what the spreads are and where the money's what and how everybody's feeling, where the sharks are.

You know, they got more information than ever, these books.

We do too.

now they got a lot more okay they got everybody's betting habits they know exactly where everybody's going they know where the smart people are going they know where the bad people are going and they obviously see things much differently than we do but we need to remember that they can be wrong and that humans are superior exactly right well said no doubt think so this is our week rest in peace to dave sharapan yeah sportsbook can sig we're gonna miss the shit out of that yenser He was great.

Gone way too soon.

On that note, are they still using humans to make these lines or is this thing all AI, tone i would highly doubt that there's uh a lot of human involvement in these lines so we gotta beat these things

okay what do we got find your edge we all we got we are all we got live

and if it's not us then who gotta get them live tone let's the live betting yeah because a i can't react they don't know soft ass they got no awareness they don't slimp off the field yeah now with that being said i'd like to let my i know i think you're none of these things i think you're great

when i ask a question i I need a right answer.

Can't be heavy, you'd be wrong.

Grok.

I'm out on my.

I saw a scary one yesterday.

Apparently, there's an AI now that you can FaceTime with people and just choose not to be your face.

It could be anybody's face.

Okay, that's cool.

That's a problem.

Okay, who fucking decided to do that one?

It's a real problem.

Serial killer.

Why are we letting these things happen?

Why is this?

That's what we don't need.

We need good stuff.

Only the good stuff.

For instance, good QA, but it needs to have the right answers.

It may be not getting so confused so easily.

How does that happen?

How do we get to the end of it?

Yeah, just

how do they get confused?

Because I had an interaction, an interesting interaction with Grok.

Now, Chat GPT.

Grock's the hobie.

The AI hobie from X and Twitter.

Don't say, well, Tony, Grok's great.

Grok stinks.

Yeah, Grok, Grok.

Whoa!

It's a far inferior product to every other AI.

Okay, see, I just want to let Grok know, if he's listening, he is.

Okay.

I'm not saying it.

This is somebody else.

Well, we know why it's inferior.

All the information is getting from us idiots on Twitter.

It doesn't have anything else.

It's actually probably pulling from AP Tone, which is maybe a part of the problem.

Grok doesn't just search X, searches the entire thing.

I watched the new Grok kind of calculate answers.

It's telling me where it's at.

Scan the internet.

We're at a different website.

We're doing this entire thing.

So I think Grok's trying to kind of reach outside of just the X.

It's a lot of both.

You get caught up in the X shite.

Yeah.

I mean, even the greatest of AI probably can't.

I got a shite in here.

Yeah, I don't know how you would get through that.

You know, it's pretty simple, though.

What's that?

Numbers, pretty simple.

One, two, three, A, B, C's, like colors.

You know, like colors.

You learn colors.

Like, McKenzie probably doing pretty good with her colors, aren't?

Yeah.

Blue.

Mm-hmm.

Green.

Mm-hmm.

Even learning multiple languages.

I don't know, my school, at least South Florida, we learned multiple languages.

Excuse me.

Rock.

AI is supposed to be most event.

Elon made it right.

Yeah, he did.

Colors.

I mean, I know I'm wearing green right now today.

A lot of different shades of green.

If you go to my timeline, I don't know how far you have to scroll up.

You might have to do some reverse engineering of how we actually got to the spot.

But Grock said, and it'll be, yeah, it'd be much better if I walk you through the tweet.

Basically, D-Butch and Grok have been going at it a little bit.

Yeah, and Grock's angle's not a good one to be behind.

I'll say it is.

First of all, got Gal Fanakis wrong.

Yeah.

On Mr.

Redford, rest in peace on the GIF.

Okay, you searching at Grock.

Gal Finakis, Robert Redford, pops up as the top one.

Yeah, what the hell?

What?

Rest in peace, Mr.

Redford.

To be fair.

No, no, no, no.

That's fucking Jeremiah Johnson.

That ain't fucking Zach Galfanaski.

I know that, but we're humans with emotions and we have emotional connections to these people.

If you're just looking at that photo, you can easily say, Gal Finaski.

That's not his name either.

Easily,

Galifinakis'

name.

Exactly.

Hangover, that is that gift if we were all talking about it.

Bruce, have you found it?

All right, here we go.

Okay, so this is, so who is this?

EA Tax, whatever, right?

Scroll up to the video.

Yeah, so he, so this video, first of all, clip from Up and Adam, just going to.

Yeah.

Now, this, this Adam, this, this clip kind of goes viral every week.

Every few months or so, some account tweets it out.

And someone asks, hey, who are these people?

So Grock answers.

They're sports broadcasters.

Kay Adams and NBA star Draymond Green from a funny segment on our show.

Now, you know.

It was a funny segment, too, to be clear.

Funny segment.

Funny segment.

I know me and Draymond, we're both both, you know, dark-skinned black guys, you know, both athletes.

I don't think, I haven't gotten mixed up with Draymond Green.

I don't think he's got mixed up with me.

If we keep on scrolling down, so it comes to my attention, someone tweets me, hey.

There's Brother Grock seems to have you mixed up, confused, blah, blah, blah.

Scroll down.

So then I start to interact.

Oops, my bad.

That's actually Kay Adams and former NFL player Darius Butler on up and Adams.

I must have mixed up the greens.

Draymond versus Darius.

Thanks for the correction.

Yeah, now as you start and you say my name, so Darius, first name, last name, Butler, and then you go Draymond Greens.

You can say you must have mixed up the greens.

So then obviously, obviously, I would add the obvious question is mixed up the greens, huh?

So,

yeah,

pretty interesting.

Yeah, so, you know, this is a good gift, great gift.

So, we can scroll down.

That's not Steve Harvey, just like you know, obviously, maybe confused with the hangover.

Uh, Zach Gallify, what's his name again coming?

Galifanaskis.

Yeah, you could search

Galifinakis.

You could search Steve Harvey, and that would pop up because, hold on, wait, oh no, it's not him.

Oh, you get mixed up, dude, but yeah, so I thought it's very

what we're saying, very interesting.

What we're saying is AI still has a lot to learn, a lot, a lot to learn.

So, whenever, by the way, I don't like that that happened, and Grok should be issuing a nice message.

My bad is, you know, hey, Grok, take it easy.

We need to beat them whenever they're the sports books.

Joining us now is a man who's a

pro football Hall of Fame nominee.

He's a college football national champion.

He's a Super Bowl champion.

He's a Ryder Cup winner.

Ladies and gentlemen, the former president of Ohio, A.J.

Hawk.

Congrats.

Hall of Famer, dude.

Congrats.

Yep.

Thank you.

Honored.

Very honored.

Come on.

I knew first hour.

We did what?

Seven, eight minutes on how far.

You guys were very nice.

Hey, you guys were all very nice.

I learned of it from you watching the show that the whole that was even on that list.

But yeah, you guys were very nice.

I appreciate that.

No problem at all.

The list of nominees was released this morning.

AJ Hawk on the list for the first time.

We are incredibly pumped for you, AJ.

I know you would diminish this because you had to be a guy that didn't need titles or approval from other people to feel fulfillment or have success.

And that's because you were in Brian Erlacher's division playing the same exact position.

So if you were to get upset about getting voted for things at your position, that would have taken over your life.

I assume that is why you've gotten to the way you are?

I don't know.

I think I've always kind of been the way I am.

But yeah, I mean, another guy, Lance Briggs, on there as well.

He's happy, no question.

Okay, so with that being said, congratulations.

We're happy you're getting acknowledged.

We're happy getting acknowledged.

Also, with that being said, can you kind of start us off by explaining why you think you are better than Lance Briggs and Brian Erlacher and maybe Luke Keek Lee, some of the other London Fletcher, why do you deserve more than those guys?

Maybe together.

Yeah, isn't that what they do?

They have each guy talk about why they're better than the other guy?

I think that's how it goes.

Yeah, yeah, it's your turn.

It's kind of the Hawks call, if you will, AJ.

Nope, but I saw Nick Mangold still there.

Nick should get in soon as well.

He's been on for years.

Roommate from College of AJ.

Maybe you guys got it together.

Oh, my God.

That'd be a good little time call.

Yeah.

at least over shoulder

saying grocery you guys saying debucks grok is racist that sound like that

yeah it ain't my grok we know what the r stands for in grok now

oh whoa racist

all right joining us now ladies and gentlemen is a man who will be a first ballot hall of famer whenever his name is up uh might be alongside aj hawk could be

this guy went super zany with his 70s look to celebrate throwback football with his CBS sports compadres over there.

So silly.

To celebrate football and how great it is.

This man has brought his incredible intelligence and his knowledge to the booth.

In two out of the first three weeks, he's had to call his brothers games.

And he has maintained a non-biased perspective that even the fans of the other team say, good on this man.

Good on this man.

Hell yeah.

He's a former Waltz Payton man of the year.

He's six foot 100,

sculpted like he's out of stone.

Ladies and and gentlemen jj waltz yeah

aj for the hall of fame we need all the initials we can get in there jj you're 100 right how about it though aj was immediately going to try to diminish that as quickly as possible which he did as soon as he got up there at least take the moment aj and say hey your peers say you're great at football that was a cool thing i think jj for aj

Yeah, it's who he is.

That's why he's nominated for the Hall of Fame, because he's that kind of guy.

Maybe we do a whole hour here on on A.J.

Hawk.

We should pull up Highland film right now.

It should be awesome.

Yeah, we actually should.

I didn't even think about that until right now.

That is what we should maybe do.

Or we could compare his stats versus all the other Hall of Fame linebackers and tell them why he should never be in the Hall of Fame.

No, see, that's not a good part about being nominated for the Hall of Fame.

We did talk about that earlier, how there's guys that are nominated every single year, and every year all they have to hear is why they don't deserve to be in the Hall of Fame.

That kind of sucks.

Yeah, like

that's probably not the most.

Oh, A.J.

Hawk Hawk with the tackle in.

You can play this one.

You can play this one.

Yeah.

In the Hall of Fame.

AJ, are we going to make a pick here?

Yep.

We are.

And then we're going to go to the crib.

I need some better blocking.

Look at me handling.

You know, in high school, I was a running back and a punter.

I had to get down.

Go ahead and let the boys on offense get out there.

They obviously had a full game plan.

What am I doing with the ruck?

Who's that?

Oh, all day.

Adrian Peterson.

Let me smother them.

And then let me celebrate.

I love watching these teams, man.

I did not like playing against, but I love watching these teams.

And that was another one of these.

I just got him.

I just got shot, guys.

Yeah.

I got him.

You got to throw up the shocker, obviously.

AJ always had a little edge to him.

Yeah, he did.

He always had a little edge to him, which we appreciate.

Jeez, look at him flying around.

AJ, this is Hall of Fame shit right here, bro.

Okay.

All right.

Let him shoot the gap.

Do you see him?

Timing him, timing him up.

AQ said earlier, JJ, the thing about AJ is obviously...

Oh, give me one.

Give me that with a broken hand in the snow do we have rewind capabilities do we have rewind oh we can do it yeah we can certainly do this so go back watch watch his first step here yeah takes a jab towards the line of scrimmage and then just the control to push himself back out you got to go back yeah right here watch his jab and then back that was a bait though he baited beneath it he baited ben is that what you that was on purpose right aj

I think it kind of the coverage kind of helped me out there.

Yeah, exactly.

That was the show.

Yep.

I'm about to.

Sleeveless turtleneck.

The sleeveless turtleneck.

That's the best.

The dickie.

That's a dickie.

JH, it's awesome.

You know, Aaron wears it.

It only goes up to like your nipples just to cover your neck.

Hey, Jay, you're flying around here, dude.

Hey, cute, that's like the

cousin Eddie in

Nashville's Christmas vacation.

All right, AJ, good luck to Ann Hall family.

Good luck to get him before Keekly.

I'm going to be pissed.

There is no Kikly without AJ.

I don't know.

Never forget it.

Super genius.

Really good.

I thought that AJ wasn't.

Obviously, he had great intelligence, had good celebrations as well, which we appreciate

the amount of enthusiasm he had with Sideline as well.

He is a whole team effort.

He saw in the field.

And that might be what he's doing right now for the Hall of Fame ceremony.

Oh, look out.

You guys remember me now?

I want my boss to be out my hair, man.

You think that's what he's going to say?

Wear the same suit from draft night.

Oh, my God, the big boy.

I need to find that.

Go move.

Oh, we know where it is.

You know where it is for sure.

And you know what?

Have Laura use that split jersey too.

Yeah.

Exactly.

Let's use that again.

Yeah.

Fitch it on the back

of the suit.

Yeah, have it be thus.

The dress.

Yes.

Yes.

Make a dress out of it.

Boom.

We figured it out for the whole thing.

You're welcome, Laura.

You're welcome, Hawk family.

All fame ceremony is going to be a great time.

Espanol, how's the team?

So Burnley, I saw not good.

Okay, right here.

Caraball Cup.

We lost the Caraball Cup.

They got booted by a Division III team.

Okay, so they'll be back.

It can't get much worse, I guess, right?

Is that what we're going to do?

I mean, if you lose to a...

Let's just say if

Ball State beat the Green Bay Packers this weekend, that's basically what happened to Burnley and Burnley's the Packers.

Is that right, Gumpy?

Is that what took place?

I didn't hear this.

I wouldn't go that far, but that's a tough loss to Cardiff City.

Oh, no.

So the Ball State beat

Green Bay Packers.

I'll tell you,

I'll listen to Gump talk football all day.

I will not sit here and listen to that mullet head at Boston

about my soccer team.

Oh, yeah.

You shut your mouth over there in your wolf t-shirt.

I played five years high school football.

I've watched high school soccer for five years.

Top tier high school soccer.

We're talking about players who could have gone on and been a big deal.

So, I mean, where do you get on?

Hey, guess what?

I played FIFA since 2006, bitch.

I got all the FIFAs.

And I played FIFA.

That's the name of your career, Uncle Rico.

I could have gone on and been a big deal.

Bingo.

But he knows it.

But I said, oh, you know what?

I could go and be a big, cool guy like JG Watt.

Or I could smoke cigarettes and drink beer.

Oh, what do I want to do?

Let me think.

Cigarettes and beer every day of the week, bitch.

And then become a soccer pundit.

And then, you know what?

I said, hold on.

In 2009, when Christiar Ronaldo was on the cover of FIFA 2009, I spent over $250 of my parents' money to get him on my ultimate team.

So, yeah, I know soccer.

So, I mean, I don't know.

I don't know why we're talking about, hey, I don't want to hear Connor talk soccer.

No, I know.

Ball State beat the Green Bay Packers.

Yeah, how about that?

Burnley.

Green Bay Packers.

Yeah.

Cardiff City.

Who's had Rayman?

Anyways, tough one for the Battle Squad.

Keep it off the screen.

Yeah, it was the Carabao Cup.

It wasn't good.

We played bad.

It wasn't great.

We got the Premier League coming back up this weekend.

Great comeback.

Great comeback yesterday by Espanol, though.

Espanol, I feel like we got good cafe in the morning, you know,

ram in the afternoon.

It feels like I like the Espanol crowd a lot.

I like the Espanol team.

Are we going to be good?

Is Espanol good at soccer?

We got some juice, man.

We got some juice going on right now.

We went down.

We had to come back 95th minute to tie it up.

It was crazy.

The cauldron of chaos is living up to its name.

It's nuts right now.

Cauldron of Chaos.

We need to make our way over there.

I don't know enough Spanish.

Do they all do...

They all, that's...

They don't need to.

If you know how to drink a beer and you know how to cheer for goals, that's all that we need, big guy.

Yeah, I got that.

I think I got that.

And also coffee.

I like coffee.

Como sauce.

yeah see so many of those see see yeah see so many

see

uno that carries right oh yeah one yeah cerveza yep is that also yeah because i don't know what is you know because there's allegedly different you know words like spain spanish dialects yeah there it is

In the morning we drink coffee and after

and then we play soccer and we win almost everyone.

Yeah, because I think we

and we're close with real.

Let's talk a little football here.

Culture of Chaos is your booth.

One week, you're so tall.

One week, you're so small.

This week, you're so zany.

You're really nailing them all here.

So let's talk about the glasses.

Let's talk about the pants.

Let's talk about signing up for this.

Let's talk about Mr.

Eagle's mustache.

Yeah.

I mean, I like what you guys are doing.

CBS celebrated 55 years of football, and I appreciate you participating in that.

I think it's actually a pretty good look for you.

I think this may be something you should maybe start leaning in on a little bit more.

I appreciate that.

If it didn't make me look like I might try to take a van near a youth school, you know, very Dahmery, yes.

Very Dahmery.

Yeah, yeah.

But no, it was awesome, dude.

I mean, we had Brent Musberger open up the broadcast, 75 years of NFL Today.

Like it was.

It was really cool to have all the throwback graphics and everything.

Ian obviously leaning into it.

So we had a good time with it.

And the long hair played in well.

So

I think that we hit the 70s hard yeah i think you hit it hard your pants also got hit pretty hard by the girth of your thighs hell yeah heard those things just blew out somebody was zoomed in on your crotch just know everybody's watching everything i like that you're holding the ball there you know make it look like hey i'm a football guy while talking football at a football game

like i i responded to this because it was something that i noted i knew was possibly going to come up but then as i started going through it i'm like man

you really had to be looking close and you really had to be like slowing that film down.

So, we got some crotch watchers out there.

Gotta be a little careful.

Definitely.

You got more crotch watchers than anybody.

Yeah, well, that's why you got to make sure, you know, the whole kick caboodle is inside the ride.

Let's keep our arms and hands inside the vehicle before we go through to whoop-de-woos of the roller coaster.

That's certainly a thought that I had there.

You've called two of your brother's games.

Was there, hang on, I got a question about that.

Once you hit water, was there any rearrangement?

Was there anything while you were under the water that you had to keep everything in place?

Absolutely, dude.

This thing was maybe middle of my back, just right through the cheeks.

And then the issue at the top there is that thing was riding to the right, just completely, side saddle, almost, you know?

So I had to fix that.

As soon as I go underwater, that happens again, just right up in there.

So that thing's up around here, high and tight, high and real tight, I'd say.

So yeah, underwater, I'm having a battle.

I'm not the best swimmer.

I can't float.

Everybody knows that.

So, you know, there's a little bit of a battle down there, but boy, I love my time.

That campus is different than everywhere I've ever been.

I mean, it's a resort.

They got like very good schools, I think, down there, private institution.

They're building that thing up like every day.

It felt like a very different, and their football team's very good, JJ.

Very, very good.

It is.

They are.

I miss the Orange Bowl, though.

I do miss the Orange Bowl.

The Orange Bowl was pretty awesome.

Yeah, historic place.

It was so hot down there.

It was so hot.

I mean, that's an advantage.

Mario Crispo said that.

We feel like if teams come down here, yeah, they have to battle against a couple different things.

Dolphins.

Yeah, Lombardo said the same thing about playing the Miami Dolphins down there.

Okay, so your brother, you've called two of of those games.

Thank you for killing it on Sundays by the way.

You've been doing a great job.

We've all been watching and listening and obviously we drop into your games during red zone as well which we're still watching.

Still watching red zone?

Yep.

I'm calling it

all the controversy there.

No,

I said we will still basically I said we don't care like we will still watch it is what I was saying.

I just want to make sure everybody knows I am still watching.

Is everybody else still yeah it's not easy but I'm still doing it.

I'm battling as well.

Yeah.

You're still watching?

i'm battling what's it like how how big of a change are we talking here oh obviously i can't see it now it kind of like ruins your entire sundae yeah you're lucky you can't see it bro yeah you can see it live in person what we got to see is

15 seconds of this thing pop up four hours in and it's just right there and you still got the box right here and then i think disappears yeah quarter of a minute every time where'd the football go and then you gotta remember oh it's in a small tv over here yeah oh shit okay there it is now though It's still there.

The issue, though, Jage.

Yeah, still there.

It's playthrough.

It's playthrough.

The issue there, Jage, is this is the first step of what these greedy corporate fat cats are going to do.

And I didn't acknowledge that early enough.

But I will say, still watching Red Zone, your games will get dropped in.

We hear you.

And then even if we're not watching your game as the main game, we still hear you.

Think you're doing a great job.

You having to call your brothers' games two out of the first three weeks of you being in the booth.

How has that been for you?

I brought up earlier something that could maybe be chatted about.

Whenever you see success on the defensive side, you probably want to get excited.

I mean,

what that defense is doing, there's excitable moments there, especially with what your brother's doing.

How has that been balancing it all?

And what are your thoughts on this Pittsburgh Steelers team?

Yeah, I mean, I've learned that it's even more challenging to do it when he plays well, when he plays really well.

I mean, he had two sacks.

He had two tackles for loss.

He had a fumble recovery.

So you're sitting there and like, obviously, we've talked about it multiple times.

I'm very conscious of not being biased.

I don't want the call to be biased.

I want to play it straight.

I want people to understand that I'm doing it on both sides.

But then, I mean, guy has two sacks.

He has a fumble recovery and you're trying to sit there and give him the credit that you would give anybody else who makes these types of plays.

But you also know that everybody's watching and waiting, trying to make it seem like you're biased.

So I'll say my partner, Ian, does a phenomenal job.

He kind of takes over on the TJ plays, and he makes sure that they get the hype and the promotion that they need.

And then I just kind of come in and fill in with some analysis, but it's definitely interesting, especially on his second sack of the day.

You're like, all right, this guy's defensive player of the year.

He's got second sack.

Like, I got to give him some credit.

I got to give him some love.

But not too much.

Not too much.

Yeah, people have been really understanding.

They've been really good about it.

Fans from the Jets in week one and fans from the Patriots this past week have all sent me some great messages saying that they thought I did a good job.

I know that there's one fourth down holding call that they didn't love that I pointed it out, but it was a fourth and one point in the game.

That was a crucial point.

And he was complaining to the ref.

I wanted to make sure everybody saw it.

But yeah, it's a fun challenge, but there's no doubt that it's something you have to be conscious of.

Go ahead, AJ.

Jay Jack, first off, who cares?

It's your brother.

You can pump your brother up all you want, especially when he plays well.

I think people should be able to understand that.

But quick pivot, New York Giants, Jackson Dart, young quarterback.

I want to know your thoughts on what you would do when you're you're facing the young rookie QB.

Obviously, hit him, you know, try to get him off the spot, all of that stuff.

And is there any guys, any young guys you remember playing against where you could kind of maybe you were surprised at how well they handled it, or maybe you're surprised at how well they didn't handle it when you faced them when they were young?

I mean, I think the biggest thing with the young quarterback is you just try and mix things up early on, try and give them as much stuff to think about because you know all the stuff that's already going on in their head.

So, I mean, just

different looks from a defensive standpoint, whether it's stunts, whether it's some shifts at the line of scrimmage.

You know, I mean, as we all know here who have played, the first thing you have to worry about as a player is your own job.

So he's going up there and he's trying to make sure he knows what he's supposed to do.

Then he's trying to get everybody else on the offense set, whether he's got shifts and motions, whether he's changing the hadence, all those things.

And then when he gets to the line, he's got to worry about the defense.

What are they showing me?

Now, if somebody tosses out a look like Brian Flores is tossing out, there's going to be like that's things that next, next, next level quarterbacks are having a tough time figuring out.

Now you can get his head spinning, but there's also young guys who are incredibly talented and incredibly smart who walk up to that line with composure, with cool, calm, collected, and they just wheel and deal.

And that's when you really get confidence in your team is when a guy walks up there in the face of all of that and still delivers.

And he's got a chance to do that.

But I don't love, like, I don't love in general when these teams draft a quarterback, say they're gonna you know sit in behind a guy and let him play and then all of a sudden we throw him into the fire and you're like okay well we so are we gonna let him sit or are we not gonna let him sit and does that amount of time count and then obviously you got russ who two weeks ago has 450 passing yards and then last week has the four down series he had in the red zone it's the nfl is a roller coaster of a league man it is crazy it is the greatest and jackson dart's getting a pop every time he's shown on the screen then he's getting like a two-yard gain and then russell wilson's getting booed and then he throws it off the upright to end the game.

And it's just like, it becomes a storm of like abandoned plan.

We don't care what the plan was.

Let's see what this guy is.

But I think what you're saying is if you're going to end up putting him in anyways or put him in early, shouldn't we have a full training camp with him being the guy?

Like at least have a full operation to see what he can get.

Dropping him in the middle of the season would be a fascinating like, because not only game wise.

Practice,

what's it like for him as the starter, team meetings, what's it like as him as a starter, offensive meetings, what's it like as him as a starter in the locker room?

All those things are brand new to him and if you're gonna go in week four i think is what your take was why don't we just do the first three and your point your point is perfect you're like this whole time we kind of been playing this like is he gonna play is he not should we give him some reps in training camp with the ones should we not and if if you're gonna toss him out there in week four like you said he could have had a full training camp and four weeks with the ones to work and now maybe is he getting some reps during the ones already this year sure but i mean then you're also not committed to your number one guy i highly doubt he was getting too many reps with the ones the last four weeks.

So it is.

It's just, I'm either throw your guy out there and say, we're going to roll with the curves and we're going to figure it out as we go and he's going to have some ups and downs or do what you say you're going to do and let him sit.

But you know how it is.

Jobs get on the line and everything changes.

Yeah.

And you're saying also, I think, empower Russell Wilson if he's going to be your guy.

Like if you're going to do that, empower Russell Wilson.

Because I think what Connor wanted to bring up is it wasn't too long ago where we were sitting in a suite watching him against the Dallas Cowboys throw for his best number ever.

And then that's what Dayball was thinking of.

Dayball is like, we'll get Russell Wilson in here.

He'll start for a certain amount of time, then there'll be a right time to hand it off.

Is there ever going to be a right time?

I don't know.

No, I legitimately don't.

You're changing out with that schedule.

Yeah, or with your job on the line.

Yeah, if you win, though, are you going to want to hand it off?

You know, that goes back to the Fitz Tua situation where Fitz kind of went over the locker room, but the plan was we're going to hand it off.

And then Fitz comes out and says, I wasn't.

I wanted to play.

This is my team, I thought.

You know, and it's like, well, that's not a good start for Tua to start in this entire thing.

The leader of the team is now pissed about how it all went down.

So the rookie quarterback wait and then we'll put them in thing.

The more I think about it, it's like Peyton through what, 28 interceptions this first year?

If that would have happened nowadays,

it might get cut.

Yeah.

I'm doing the Falcons game this week, and Pennex had a very rough game this last week, and now he gets pulled in the fourth quarter, which the game was gone anyway.

It's not like they're replacing him, but now you have those questions pop up this week, and you're you're like, are we letting anybody develop?

Are we letting anybody make mistakes?

Are we letting anybody grow and come into their own?

Like, it's such a week-to-week world.

Short leash is everywhere.

Now, you brought up a name there about a defense for a young guy, Brian Flores.

D-Bud has a question for you.

Yeah, you reposted, me and you both reposted the same video of this Brian Flores pre-snap disguise.

And this is just one example of some of the shit that these young quarterbacks have to deal with when you talk about, you know, developing and coming in.

You're covering, you're calling the game with two young quarterbacks playing if Daniels is able to play.

What's your biggest thing?

What do you think the biggest hurdle is for these young quarterbacks getting up to this level and playing on the high?

And what is all this?

So we can just see, because it looks like there's a lot of movement happening there before the ball is snapped.

Yeah, D.

Butt, I'd love to have a conversation with you about this because to me, this is literally next to next level of NFL defensive coordination, but not only from the coordinator standpoint, from the player standpoint.

So it's one thing to sit in a meeting room and to be like, man, how crazy would it be if we went from an all-out blitz look back to a single high look, back to like, you can draw that up and that's great.

But then you put it into a meeting and your guys are like, hang on, hang on, hang on.

So you want us to show this and then go to this.

And then you go to the practice field and they try and do it.

Crazy.

And like I said, you got some young guys or you have a guy who didn't, who doesn't know what's going on and he can screw the whole thing up.

So for Brian Flores to install it and for these players to execute it is beyond impressive.

and I know that a lot of people are giving a ton of credit to Harrison Smith rightfully so because he kind of quarterbacks that whole thing but Debut how hard is this from a DB standpoint this is like 300 level shit I don't think I've ever seen this extensive of a disguise and like you said everybody has to be on the same page so not only Harrison you got to have multiple smart players on every level you talked about Brian Flores being able to communicate something like this because everything is it you know you got to know the play caller you got to know how they operate as far as the play clockwise like when are they like to snap the ball?

Because you show the first look, you show the first coverage.

Typically, it's only like safeties, maybe some DBs.

Sometimes you'll get a D-line shift.

But for everybody on every level to be moving on the same accord,

it's unbelievable.

I don't think I've ever seen it to this level be executed.

Everyone has to have trust, the timing, and then it's just pre-snap.

So now post-snap, everybody's got to run and fly around too.

This is some different shit.

And then

on top of all that, you got a pass rusher who just makes a nasty spin move at the top of the screen and gets in and the disguise sure helped but maybe that guy was just gonna get there anyway like it's just a mind fuck on every level and then on the offensive side Kevin O'Connell's calling plays and it seems like they're gonna work out you know feels like they got something special out there in this in Minnesota this may be like and KOC mentioned it yesterday when he was on the show how he goes into the meeting room with B Flow to kind of talk over the different plans I don't know if they cross paths with McVay as far as KOC and Zach Taylor, but a lot of these people, AQ, you know, like coming from the same trees, same, okay, we start this, we're moving to get into the 8 and 12 area because we go over, you know, how the quarterbacks operate with the play clock, when they're shifting, when they're motioning.

So, having that tandem when you're dealing with an offensive head coach that goes in and sits in on these meetings, Conman talked about with Belichick and Tom Brady as far as developing him as a young quarterback, like all this shit ties in.

So, when you're watching a play happen, it's just so much more that goes into these situations, these plays being executed.

You got to have, I mean, back to JJ's point about how Brian Flores is obviously coaching it, but you got to have like very smart players.

It's like the New England Patriots defense where they had like four different game plans in every single game and that type of stuff.

Are we looking at a historic defense over there in Minnesota?

Is that what we're saying right now?

And Cleveland?

Like Spaggs a couple years ago when they went to the Super Bowl.

Yeah, he said all 11 guys.

Yeah, Spaggs said whenever the Chiefs defense was leading them to.

When they beat, I believe it was the Eagles the first time, I want to say.

Yeah, and he said, usually you have like two guys, maybe hopefully three guys that are kind of like coaches on the field.

He said, all 11 guys are like coaches on the field.

Career.

You can do a lot of things.

And that Cleveland Browns defense is same, right?

They're incredible across the board from frontline to linebackers to DBs.

Yeah, but everybody on the same page is such a big deal.

And this early in the season.

The Chargers, too.

Jackson Dart, we got to play.

Like that Jesse Minner defense.

Those boys are on the string.

And same with Luann Rumo's defense.

On that note, Ty has a question for you, JJ.

Yeah, Jay, I mean, honestly, what the hell is going on with the Texans?

You know, you hate to be going into week four and already kind of writing off a team, but some of the stats.

How could you not?

Listen, some of the stats are coming out with C.J.

Stroud, and

they're not exactly great.

You know, comparing him to...

Is this guy basically just Anthony Richardson?

Ty.

I didn't put that out.

Ty, I didn't put that out.

I'm saying that's out there.

That's out there.

So, you know, sure, do those people have a narrative maybe but sounds like you were trying to push that narrative not at all because i love i love cj10 guy he's a big 10 don't let your voice go high don't don't let your voice go high that's intelligent

yeah say it with your chest

he's a big 10 guy dude

RIP so I'm I'm just curious where where are we at right now with the Texans because their their offense I mean it does it doesn't look like anything we've seen during the CJ Stroud era brother

no it was it was obviously the first two weeks, I mean, you got the Rams and you got the Bucs, and they go down, and they're very tight, very close games against first in their division teams.

So those are very tough losses, but they're losses that you can look at and be like, yeah, those are two very good teams, and we played right down to the wire.

When I got out of the booth this week, when I was done calling the Steelers Pats, and I checked my phone, and I see that the Texans lost to the Jaguars, that's one where you're like, oh, okay,

this is not what is normally happening.

Because you kind of, after the first two weeks, you're like, all right, we're going to figure it out and get on track.

And clearly didn't get on track this week.

The offense is struggling, haven't gotten it going.

So there has to be some form of improvement shown there.

And from what I'm seeing and what I'm reading, sounds like the play action game isn't quite there and it just hasn't developed this offensive scheme that they've wanted to develop this offseason when they brought in Kaylee hasn't quite hit the ground running the way that everybody expected it to from everything we've we've heard all offseason.

All right.

Well, on that note, there's another team that's playing better ball than it's ever played before.

Okay.

Harder start than Peyton Manning.

Many times here in Indianapolis.

And then whenever you think about the defense, Louie and Rumo, they're balling all over the place.

So, Jay, it's just, you know, it's not as fun when the rabbit has the gun here, huh?

Remember, you had a couple years there.

We had a little bit of fun.

Remember, you guys?

Easy.

The years aren't over.

It's

three here.

Oh, buddy.

Oh, buddy.

Who's the last team that was 0-3 to start that went to the playoffs?

Us,

I believe.

Who's on that team?

I know we did it.

Hey, JJ Watt, ain't walking through that door.

CJ!

Will Anderson is.

Or is he?

Or has he been?

Will Anderson's in that door.

Daniel Hunter's in that door.

We're 0-3.

I know.

Daniel Hunter's a dog, too.

Same with Will Anderson.

What's going on up in Indianapolis?

Like, what?

Obviously, I'm not able to watch these games closely.

Every week, I feel like I'm asking the same question.

We're grateful.

at it.

What is going on up there?

Just, you haven't been able to watch the game in its entirety.

I hope you get a chance sometime to call a Colts game and you have to do your research.

Danny Dimes knows everything that everybody on the field is doing.

Okay.

Everybody on the defense, he knows exactly what you're doing.

Broncos blitzed them 76% of the time.

Had 114-point-something QBR.

Against the Blitz.

Knew everything that was happening at all times.

Knows exactly where to go with the ball.

And oh, yeah, where is he going?

We got weapons all over the place.

Tyler Warren, he's your size.

He's he's yeah he's maybe bigger

he's probably bigger than you i think he's bigger than him yeah there's no way he could have put those pants on to begin with little blowing them out you know up there in that that little thing on his forehead that's like damn big sky around type thing a little caveman type yeah he he looks like a uh bigfoot a sasquatch if you will he wouldn't be able to put on whit worth jersey and get under that squat rack not tyler warren no that thing would have been busting at the seams like your pants were if you was put that on he's unbelievable and he's always open jonathan taylor just had three touchdowns.

We like that a lot.

Michael Pittman rolling.

Josh Downs hasn't even really got started cooking yet.

He will at some point.

It's like we have.

AT has like 340 yards rushing, doesn't he?

He's crushing it.

Yes, we are.

And Danny Dimes.

Might be his best quarterback of all time.

No turnovers.

It's unbelievable.

No turnovers, one punt.

It's been so much fun.

That's crazy.

It's been so much fun to watch.

Like Danny Dimes, though, commanding the shit is just like very evident.

You're talking about full control.

We're doing this.

We're checking to this.

He's sliding into into pocket so comfortably.

Could leave, doesn't.

Find somebody, makes a big throw.

No sign.

All right, so let's spin this thing all the way back then to the beginning of this conversation we just had.

The New York Giants, they have a rookie quarterback.

They had Daniel Jones for a long time.

Now they're switching from Russell Wilson to is this a situation where

Daniel Jones was always this good.

He just needed the time development.

I mean, he did have a lot of time there.

Let's not act like he didn't have a lot of time.

How many offensive line Nelson's not vocal?

He just needed an O-line.

Never had an O-line in New York.

Like, even the guys they, like, it might,

to your point, JJ, like, it might not even be New York's fault.

Like, just some of the guys they drafted, some of the free agents they picked up, like, they just didn't work out.

Like, I remember when Nate Soldier went to the Giants after New England, and he was supposed to be, you know, their left tackle dominant for years, and it just didn't work out.

And then Evan Neal, you know, Bruce can attest, he's playing guard now, and he was supposed to be their guy.

I think Andrew Thomas, when he was their first-round pick to play left-tackle, I think he got hurt his rookie year when Dan Jones was.

Now, on that note, I think everything that Danny Davis went through was big for his development to get him here.

You know, I don't know what he's always been like.

Obviously, I think he's always been super humble and probably a little bit not loving of the

spotlight and everything like that.

He gets dropped into New York, but going through all that has to either kill you or make him much stronger.

You know, one or the other.

I think it's just the uniforms look so much like Duke.

It's just natural.

Like he's just like, oh, I'm back.

I'm back in.

It's great.

Who was his coach?

Who is his coach?

David Cutcliffe.

Who did he coach pretty personally?

I believe Peyton Manning.

Oh, is that right?

And what is he doing now?

He's starting better than Peyton Manning?

Wow.

Go ahead and start building a statue.

Danny Dime is going to be right next to Peyton, and they might as well have got Cutcliffe right up there with his clipboard and maybe a little bit of like a puppeteer type thing.

He's on a one-year deal there?

I think it's two years, but he's certainly going to be looking to renegotiate after this one if everything goes the way it goes.

He's making $14.5 million.

$14.5 million right now.

We are incredibly thankful and lucky that everybody said he was ass at football, including our own fans that did the athletics poll.

They said

we had no chance.

And Hebaugh was a part of that.

And A.Q.

Shipley was as well.

Jay Sori is.

And so are you, JJ?

And I think A.J.

Hawk was as well.

So everybody that's kind of in front of a microphone right now can say that they were a part of the, this guy's ass, the Colts think.

We're doing a full rebuild.

There was one of us up here.

I didn't believe it.

I'm bombing over Danny.

I got to throw Bruce under the bus to you.

He didn't believe you.

Oh, I can't get away from this guy.

We have always.

That's not true.

We have always believed.

I knew he'd win the job the second he got here.

That was a fact.

Unfortunately, he is on a one-year deal, though.

I would mind.

But that was our big thing.

They have the team.

So if Danny Dimes comes in and plays

the way Danny Dimes has played, they're going to be unbelievable.

And they have.

No, no, we didn't want him to play the team.

I thought he was on a one-year deal.

So so he's on a one-year deal today right now what kind of contract would you resign him to today whatever he wants 70 million 55 a year whatever they need

five years 70 per whatever he wants you got to think about the whole culture of the entire building before and after he becomes our quarterback and i know it's a lot of other positions and a lot of other people that obviously can change that but like

what's just so many you're telling me this one guy switched the whole building because last year i mean i guess

you were on the culture of that building.

And I was right.

And I was right.

And so he's the only one that changed.

He changed the whole building.

Cam Bynum.

Quentin Nelson.

Nossie comes in.

Quentin Nelson becomes like vocal leader, you know, and he becomes good vocal leader.

Michael Pittman, I think, feels even more empowered.

Jonathan Taylor's playing his best ball that he's, I mean, there is,

it feels like there is just a,

maybe a belief in what's going on.

Belief.

A belief in a chance to win.

Yes, I think that is what it is.

That changes everything.

Like when you're losing, it's like, I mean, it's miserable to go to work.

It's miserable to show up at the building when you know, hey, listen, we're going to be five and 15 in,

you know, the first

20 games.

Yeah, and it's a preseason as well, brother.

Yeah.

You know, we get anyone in preseason.

Do you get what I'm saying?

But it's like

the belief that you have when you know you have a guy back there that gives you a chance to win is everything.

Yeah, it's everything.

If you don't have one, it's nightmare for all parties.

Coaches, players, everybody knows it.

And maybe that is why you sleep through a treatment back-to-back day.

Sure.

Maybe that is why you show up late to a team meeting, you know.

That's what's good about Indy, you know?

Like, it's terrible not to have a quarterback.

It's even worse to have a quarterback that makes like $150 million and you know he's never going to win a Super Bowl.

That's probably not.

What are you talking about?

Danny Dimes gonna win a Super Bowl.

I'm not talking about Danny Dimes.

Danny Dimes ain't getting paid $150 million.

I just think there's a couple guys out there probably.

He's 28 years old.

He might get paid.

And I'm not talking about Two either, Gumps.

But there are definitely other guys out there, definitely, that maybe we just talked to very recently in the last few days, not publicly, and he wasn't the exact player.

Maybe it was a coach, and we just find out things about players.

I think having a situation like Indy, like even Pittsburgh,

even the Giants isn't as bad as, hey, we just signed a guy to a five-year, $250 million contract, and

he probably won't get the job done.

And that sucks.

You're talking about whenever the next four years are just, we know we ain't got it.

Kind of like what happened with Danny Dimes the first time, where it was like, hey, we're going to pay Danny Dimes instead of Saquon.

And, you know, Giants fans kind of all agreed.

You know, Danny Dimes goes kind of as Saquon goes.

So it's like hand in hand.

Whereas like sometimes teams will win 10 games and they'll have a flash and they'll have a good season.

Maybe they'll win a playoff game.

And then you kind of have to pay that guy no matter what because he's proved it.

But in the end, when you lay your head down at night, you know you can't win a Super Bowl with that guy well I

I hope that everybody that is at a starting quarterback for the team that you're pulling for can win a Super Bowl for absolutely with that being said Daniel Dimes can

and I'm excited that that's the case I don't even think he knows he's playing good right now I don't even know if Dane Dimes knows that good

I think he has no idea good keep it that way every time he talks every every time I talk to him it's just yeah okay you're having a good time everybody's playing really good it's fucking right

you haven't done shit yeah let's move along to the next one.

And it's like, I think his shins have taken such a beating that he's like ready for.

Indianapolis is the perfect place for him.

Yes.

It genuinely is.

I think it's the owner being on the sidelines.

I think just everybody's on their P's and Q's.

Everybody's dialed.

Dialed.

You're talking about Carly?

Yeah, Carly's down there trying to learn as much as possible.

Obviously, you're not going to be out of line, especially when one of the big three can hear everything that's happening down there, but she's trying to learn all the ins and outs of the program.

They also just built a playground yesterday, downtown Indianapolis.

Oh, nice.

Hell yeah.

Indianapolis Colts, dude.

Yeah, giving back to this.

The big three are giving right now, and the big three are winning.

They're undefeated.

Yeah.

The big three are undefeated.

They might never.

Have you ever put on those headphones?

Have you ever, AJ, have you ever listened to the offensive play calls and everything?

Even for like me, somebody who's been played 12 years, like in preseason, I'd put on those headphones, listen to the calls, and

I'll get a lot of information from them.

But like, there's times where I'm lost what they're talking about on offense.

Well, yeah, and you get to hear them freak out.

It's funny.

It's fun to listen and hear the guys in the booth freaking out.

If you talk to them later, and

when you mention it to him, like, oh, you were on there?

What were you doing on the headset at that time?

Yeah, they can get testy on those headphones for sure.

I wonder.

They talk a lot of shit.

Oh, yeah, they kill every player.

They're killing all of us.

That would be the tough part if I was a coach.

Imagine B.A.

on the headset.

Yeah, I'm saying, if you're a coach, what the fuck is he doing?

Get him the fuck out of there.

Then he's got to click over to.

He said it was Ben Rothsberger.

He was yelling on a different line, he thought, about Ben Rothesberger being just trash.

And then he clicks over, he thought, and Ben could hear everything he was saying.

Ben's looking at him.

Because he thought he was able to just, all right, Ben, you're doing a great job.

Like, Ben heard the entirety, I guess, the nail.

And then the, all right, Ben, you're doing a great job.

He's like, you were on the same, I heard that whole thing.

Oh, no, that's not great.

I wonder if they are tighter up, tightened up down there, though.

You know, they say, like, hard knocks makes everybody act

right because you're kind of being watched.

You know, if you're in a bathroom, there's more people in there.

They say you're more likely to wash your hands if other people are in there watching you than if you're not, if you're in there alone, you walk out.

So maybe Carly on the headset is making everybody act their absolute best.

I would hope not.

I hope those guys are exactly the same way they are, whether she's on that headset or not.

And so you're saying people in there, people not in there.

I'm not washing my hands.

That's exactly what I'm saying.

We saw.

He's not flushed.

We knew that.

I mean, we knew what that answer was.

All of us right when.

Yeah, there was no question about it.

You should see these new ones.

You just put your hand out there and it just shoots out soap all by itself.

And then the air is actually on this side.

You just put your hand over here and it's just blowing air out of the wall.

It's crazy.

You should try it sometime.

Washing your hands.

All right.

And down at the Texans, Jade, you're not dead on them.

You don't think they're completely out?

No, no, I'm not definitely not dead on them this weekend.

Yeah, who are they playing this weekend?

Titans.

You're out on them.

They're laying seven against Tennessee.

Don't even know.

I have

divisional campaigns.

Tennessee.

Tennessee's going through some stuff.

Tennessee's going through some stuff.

So are you guys?

I think you guys are going through.

So you just cut CJ GJ out of the middle of nowhere.

What's that all about?

What is that about?

Yeah, no, I will actually give Tennessee Jeffrey Simmons playing phenomenal football.

Despite a tough start here, Jeffrey Simmons, phenomenal football player.

Just pivoted away from CJ GJ.

Coach Callahan's starting to figure it out, too.

It seems like in press conferences, he's getting more and more comfortable.

Yeah.

Just more and more at ease, doesn't he?

Yeah.

God, that guy, it might be good for him to not have that job anymore.

You know?

Yeah.

He's like a great guy.

The head coach.

Well, I guess Colin Plays is something that's going to change.

Just the whole thing,

it doesn't look like it's good for him.

Have you seen a guy have an enjoyable moment?

No, absolutely.

He hates his life.

Not one happened.

And he's in Nashville.

He took the first step, Pat.

He took the first step.

First off, you relinquish the play calling duties, and then when that doesn't go well, you get the play calling duties back and when the NAC goes doesn't go well then you eventually get fired Bo Haringery will be taking over the play calls and obviously if it continues to go the way it's going Bo Haringry will be fine

exactly which is why I kind of love this move and

I'd like to say Callahan

they just jumped the old coordinator though that was the the interesting part to me is the play calling duties did not go to the old coordinator they went past him that's a very

likes that guy yeah a little closer relationship.

That guy's a dip shit.

He's not called place.

And Callahan's like, I agree.

I can't wait to fire her up.

We need him to.

Nashville's great.

He might be a college coach.

I think he might freaking soar at like a UAB.

Maybe UAB.

Yeah, like I think he might.

I think

Dilford's job.

He might

be a Trey Dilfer.

Hey, shoot,

I think Dilver's more bored for the Florida or a Vodtech.

I think Brian Callahan, he starts at UAB, learns a thing or two about respect for people.

He might

hey,

Jage, why don't you hire Callahan to coach Espanor?

Maybe the Burnley boys after that Carroll City loss.

I think that'd be good.

He'll bring in some intense, sorry, Cardiff City.

You get it.

They come in there and he'll get the boys fired up and intense.

Maybe he'll be.

He's a great guy.

We had meetings with him two weeks ago.

He's a great guy.

He's a great guy.

It's just they're not playing good football right now.

He's miserable, huh?

Everything.

He's just a good guy, just absolutely miserable.

He's been great.

I mean, in in the meetings, he's great.

He was positive.

Obviously, saying all the right stuff is just, they're just not involved.

Like, what?

Because seriously, I haven't seen one clip of this guy talking where I'm like, good guy.

Whoa, geez.

Not in the sense of like, I know, like, not in the sense of like good and evil.

Sorry, not in the sense of like good and evil, like, good guy, more so in the sense of like, nope, that sucks every single time I see something of him.

It is a lot of that.

The coolest thing he's done, honestly, is when Will Levis came off the field and when he like rolled the ball to the other team and brian callahan was like what the are you doing i remember

yeah coming up that was awesome also he had a good promo about cam ward talking to the defense while calling a play and then giving back he was he was mind-blowing by it he said i couldn't do that i don't know how he does that yeah that's basically what he said i mean and the paul kowarski thing i think is what really got me he just he just ripped ball kowers what that's what he said i don't know i mean no that's what i i didn't even know what if you were making a joke i thought you were just telling the story no exactly what he said.

That's exactly what

he did.

He needs to win a game.

He needs to win a game.

It's tough to be happy when you're losing.

I agree.

You have to be bad.

That was a part of why, like, it was, for me, retiring from punting felt like an easy move because we were losing games.

I had to be miserable.

And it actually was miserable because, boy, it'd be much better if we won.

Like, everything would be better if we won.

And it's like, as a punter, I have no say in that fourth quarter.

We're down.

All right, boys.

Let's go, man.

I need to have a good, let's have a happy week this week.

Let's say this is all worth it.

And then the ball just bounces the wrong way we lose and all of a sudden you gotta be miserable okay it's like all right that's certainly something this is Callahan though every time he's in front of a microphone literally this is him right here

yeah I have zero disappointment in my play calling I mean

I don't have any disappointment in that at all

we're fucking 0-3 but It's not my fucking fault.

My play?

We appreciate Callahan.

James, we appreciate it.

I think your point right there is such a good point that people, like, when they always ask, like, do you miss the game?

Or like, how's retirement and everything i i don't think people understand how miserable every single week after a loss is and how just by proxy of being retired and not having that experience like yes the good days are always better but those weeks it is a full seven days of misery I couldn't even imagine you such a focal point of wins and losses, having to feel that, shoulder that.

You as well, Age, that's a crazy thing to think about.

And I'm happy I didn't have to do that.

I just, by proxy, had to be pissed because life isn't as good whenever we're not winning, boys, okay?

If everybody could kind of do their shit, we'd be great.

Let's go ahead and do it.

Let's maybe protect our quarterback.

Let's think about doing that.

Okay, Sky, really good at football.

Let's maybe...

I don't know who I need to talk to here.

I don't know who the person is.

Maybe.

Let me tell you what I'm seeing.

Guys, let me tell you what I'm seeing from the sidelines over here.

Be good.

Maybe catch those balls.

That'd be great.

And these routes, I don't know.

You're seemingly not as open as everybody else is.

Need those to go a little bit better.

I don't know how we get that.

Defense, we wrap up.

Okay, we got a lot of

this happening.

We need to start wrapping up.

Boys, life is much better whenever we're all mostly you guys doing your shit.

So if we could do our shit, that'd be great.

All internal thoughts.

Never say them out loud.

That's right.

What you say out loud is actually, scop boys.

Scope boys.

Stop, boys.

Team game.

Team game.

I'm riding.

I'm riding.

Inside, though, it's a lot of, this guy is fucking terrible.

Why is this guy?

why is this guy on the fucking team what are we i can't say that though that guy's much tougher than me that guy's job much harder than mine that guy much more important than me so what i gotta do is hey what's hey next week bro come on man i need you we need you oh somebody i i saw somebody's brother that did that this week somebody's brother like posted on social media that a player on their team sucked and it was just like dude you just put him in the worst spot of all time in the locker room walking in there that's like when uh odell's dad yeah was putting together highlights of baker mayfield yeah all right odono go in there go see him baker's not even looking at him why isn't he looking i mean i'm putting out three highlights a week of this guy being ass but why isn't he looking at my boy it's like man just give your eggs in the morning just oh yep good morning

yep sorry my dad sorry can you send your dad different plays like i threw you the ball a couple times Can you do that?

My dad's crazy, you know.

Just walk away.

I don't know how you get through that.

And then they get rid of a guy.

Now he might maybe lead his team down the feet.

Really really good.

Jage, you've been pitching a perfect game in that booth.

We appreciate you doing that.

Congrats to your Espanol team doing what they do.

And your Burnley team.

Come on, lads.

Carol City's a tough shot.

We got, all right, all right.

Let's give Cardiff their credit.

Cardiff, Cardiff.

We got Man City on Saturday.

That'll go well.

You know what?

I am so sick and tired of your ass.

Whoa.

Fight him.

I'm fighting.

Please go on, Gage.

Now,

I'll back down because every week your hair has gotten significantly better and it looks fantastic.

I like where it is.

That's positive.

Give me those props.

Thank you.

Ladies and gentlemen, that's First Battle Hall of Famer.

I'll return it.

You know, I thought you were top five booth.

I muted it five minutes in, but I've heard people love you, brother.

How about that?

Look at this.

Bring your swords guys.

Five minutes here.

That's a long time.

Five minutes is a long time.

That's the nicest thing I've said to someone in a long time, and he said it was mean.

So I'm done with compliments.

That's the last compliment I ever give.

No, it's like when fat s eat salad for the first time and they have to poop and they go, Well, that's what my body's saying, not to eat the exact.

Don't say that about it.

I don't like just because he is, doesn't mean we have to call him that name.

No, I was talking about another story.

He just called him Fatso.

Jesus,

you literally live in the gym.

And guess what?

In here, right now, you literally live in the gym.

You step rolling my jokes.

It's going to be so funny.

You literally were going to get.

That's a gym.

Ladies and gentlemen, JJ Watts.

Good positive experience for Jage.

You were going to have such a good one there.

There was going to be so much.

There's about six that

I've had on my tongue today that just haven't made its way out.

That's going to happen.

I love Jage.

I tell you what, though, it's tough.

Jage talks about being happy and being sad.

It's like when his Burnley team loses to Carroll City.

I know.

And then you got Espanol doing his thing.

It's like, how do you kind of conflict?

What's the Cardiff?

Is it not Carroll City?

Why does he keep saying Cardiff?

Who fucking cares?

Oh, it's part of City.

It's part of City.

Cardiff City Legendary Club.

They've fallen on hard times.

They go by Carroll City as well.

I don't think

we are pulling for Cardiff City.

I apologize for the wrong name, but I like the big win after Burnley.

Who knows what they're going to go do now?

Yeah.

Maybe get up to Division II and then 1A and then 1 up there.

We'll continue for some reason.

We appreciate you all.

Be a friend, tell a friend something nice.

It might change our life.

Goodbye.

That felt like a good JJ Watt.

Good JJ JJ Watt.

Just sat in the pocket there.

No Burnley shirt on.

Didn't want to bring attention.

Had the Espanol had on USA Olympics.

They'll talk about this.

Yeah.

They'll talk about USA.

Good fit.

Talk about Espanol.

Couldn't help but had to bring up Burnley.

We've been following that team closer to anybody.

Yeah.

I think, Gage.

Where are they in the season?

Like, how many more games do they have?

Now, on that note, we're covering them closer to anybody.

We don't know.

No, yeah.

Two or three, I think, right?

How many games into the season are we?

Because we saw the Caribou Cup.

Yeah, the Carabao.

Yeah.

They're about five in.

And what's the Caribou?

Carabao Cup?

It's It's just the English teams, a bunch of divisions.

I was very scared of America, and I wouldn't want Air Miami or Portland Timbers rolling around in there too.

Because if you want to care about soccer, you don't have the Carabao Cup having to.

Tell you what, I don't know if Portland Timbers are coming out alive against Cardiff City.

Portland Timbers?

Yeah.

You think Cardiff City could withstand the Pacific Northwest?

Cardiff City went over to Turf Moore and took them down.

That's the problem with Cardiff City, is that if the Portland Timbers went over to England and beat a team like Cardiff City, that city would burn down and they'd murder everyone on the team because they lost to an MLS team.

So they actually, I think for safety purposes, cannot let an MLS.

A hot Portland Timbers team.

Yeah, just and respectively, I get it because, I mean, they'd probably beat the fuck out of Burnley.

No.

The Timbers this year, don't they have the guy?

It'll be a KG affair for sure.

Yeah.

Maybe for Burnley.

I mean, we're talking about the Timbers.

What about the Seattle Sounders?

I forgot about that, Pacific Northwest finest.

Exactly.

Exactly.

And then that team down there in Atlanta, they're so good.

They're united around it.

That went there too.

And then up there in New England, they used to have a team.

They sold that team, right?

Well, they actually won't let the New England Revolution play there because they're scared we might take their country again.

Oh, you're talking about in England?

Yeah.

That's crazy.

Is New England Revolution still a team?

They absolutely stink.

So does Atlanta this season.

Fuck, man.

They're both near the bottom of the table.

This is the year.

We're at the bottom of the table right now?

No.

No, you're close.

Fuck off, dude.

That's bull.

You're at 11th of 15.

Well, is our guy out?

Yeah, I think a lot of your guys are up.

If our guy's out, then that changes a lot.

And dead last is CF Montreal.

That's good.

We like that.

And second to last, DC United.

Okay.

DC United.

Wayne Rooney's former team?

Remember the name?

Of course.

Of course.

I was inter doing this year, Intermediate.

Are there fucking best teams on the 300 teams in the MLS?

Yeah, this isn't a real thing, right?

This is not the list of teams.

I thought there were six teams in the MLS.

No, it turns out there's 30 is there 30 teams 30 teams that are where are they

each confident that's six teams the hottest team

the hottest teams right now are laf corner vancouver white

how many are in that arena league that we the boys come from how many teams are in there eight i don't know they just announced a new squad actually i don't know where

they need to be there's eight teams in there they're about Six too many.

What are we doing?

No, what you're talking about.

PST is a good tournament filled with a lot of great players.

We need the MLS to not 30 teams.

What are we doing?

Who

am FC Nashville?

Remember, they're really good.

Pittsburgh Riverhounds obviously taking over.

Sure.

Philadelphia, very good.

And they have the youngsters.

UC Salt Lake.

FC Vancouver.

So White Caps actually got Thomas Mueller, legendary player from Germany.

He's unbelievable.

Who's he playing for?

He's playing for the Vancouver White Caps.

It's insane.

Why?

They're beating Team 7-0.

What?

Yeah, he's scoring Hatties.

It's insane.

He's got to a gambling problem.

He's one of the greatest players of all time.

Why the hell is he still playing soccer in the United States?

Let's get to it.

Because he wants to.

It's not in the United States.

He's playing in Canada, actually, up there in Vancouver,

which we obviously knew the MLS had such history in Canada.

We knew that.

LAFC also got Sony from Tottenham.

He's like in his prime.

He's scoring every game as well.

The game is growing.

What the fuck are these guys doing over here?

They're playing soccer.

Hey, boys,

go back home.

It's not fun here.

What do you mean it's not fun?

It's very fun.

LAFC, they take on LA Galaxy.

They have the LA

Trafficle.

There it is.

Trafficle is always a banger.

It's great.

Always delivers.

There's actually Inter Miami players tonight, actually.

We don't have to do this, okay?

It's September 24th.

It's not freaking May 24th.

What the fuck?

All right, great.

Let's get to a break.

We'll be back on the other side.

Lane Kiffin will be joining us from all of us.

We need to get rid of at least 24 of those teams.

Agree.

Come on, guys.

Six or eight, maybe.

What's that, AJ?

I assume there's like six, maybe eight teams.

I think we all thought that.

Then we saw the table and we're like, that's a big table.

What the hell?

It's a massive league.

Every team that you've ever heard of having a team still has it.

Like, there's been no moving.

There's been no moving on.

There's only been adding.

MLS up and to the right.

More teams, more players.

More explosivity.

Throw the game.

MLS soccer.

We did soccer.

Quadrant.

We did.

We did baseball.

We did soccer.

Yep.

WNBA, he's got its playoffs.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

A couple going down to the wire.

Aces fever.

If this goes in, Kelsey Mitchell's about to win MVP.

Okay.

Well,

finals MVP?

Yeah.

Okay.

There's already been an MVP.

Yeah.

Age Wilson.

And we're very happy for her to win that again.

Fourth time.

She's a great player.

Fourth time.

This is for Kelsey Mitchell winning MVP of WNBA Finals.

Okay.

She's been leading the fever.

Need to go.

A lot of injuries to the fever.

Stephanie White's got them flying around.

They should give her an extension.

Big one.

Now.

How's the deal going?

They were negotiating a deal, and then we didn't hear anything.

It's quiet.

Maybe it's good.

Yup.

Oh, Kelsey.

I'm so sorry.

The team will take the award.

Okay.

Good.

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AJ, you remember whenever he used to go into basements and fight rich dudes?

You remember when that was happening?

Yeah, I said he used to grapple in, you know, in small amounts of clothing in the basement with some billionaires.

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You see?

Have you examined why drama and turmoil is often around you?

I think there's things in life that you do that you actually are really trying to go above and beyond to do the right thing, and it just doesn't work.

Singing Rocky Top all night long after we beat Florida next year.

It's gonna be a blast.

Okay, so get ready.

Then there's things that you do that you make mistakes.

I call them self-inflicted wounds.

Lane out of respect to Tennessee Danzie answers free questions for us.

When you hire a snake, don't be surprised if you get bitten.

There is just a perfect storm becoming this villain.

He proved that he could lie out of both sides of his mouth.

There's no arguments, those are called ass chewings.

Lane Kiffin, the youngest NFL head coach since the merger.

I didn't hire the person I thought I was hiring.

Lane Kiffin is a Miley Cyrus of college football.

He has very little talent, but we simply can't keep our eyes off of him.

When people don't want to liken, does that

bother you?

It didn't used to bother me.

As I've gotten older now, I just would like to change that narrative.

So how do you do that?

Three, two, and one.

Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a former Fresno State quarterback and a guy that we're about to learn a lot about tonight.

Three-time national champion, now the head coach at Old Miss, ladies and gentlemen, Linkify.

How are you, coach?

Awesome.

Thanks for having me, Pat.

Hey, sorry, we made you wait there a little bit.

Boys had to dump during a break, and then obviously we got a chance to run one of the greatest trailers I've seen for a documentary in a long time, which leads me to ask this: How was it emotional going back through all of it?

And how long have you guys been shooting this for release?

It feels like it's very in-depth.

Yeah, they did it this summer with me, just, you know, over a day or two.

And then I think they went to other people after that.

So I've never, I've actually not seen it.

So that trailer is the only thing I've seen like you've seen.

So

it is kind of really unique to see that and you see your kind of life play out because you've been through so many things.

And

so

it should be interesting.

Reliving it all is interesting.

You know, like I've talked to a couple people that should have documentaries, and I ask them, I'm like, are you ever going to do a doc?

Absolutely not.

Why?

I've already lived it once.

I don't want to do it again.

That's a whole thing that has to take place.

I'm assuming with some of these things, and you admitted there in your interview that you did this summer that they did in the sit-down, where it's like, I've made some mistakes, self-inflicted wounds through it all.

Has that perspective changed you this season?

Do you think you've noticed a change since doing the documentary about yourself?

And how has it been trying to become the Lane Kiffin that you want to be, basically, through it all that you kind of mentioned at the end there about changing the narrative

yeah i really didn't know it was going to be that big a deal pat that sounds probably crazy but you know people come in a lot of times and do interviews or podcasts and so i just agreed to it and then kind of realized it was a lot bigger once it started going so you know

my hope is that it helps people it helps people that are struggling or people that are going through things they don't understand why and so i think what it does is it shows a path that goes a bunch of different directions and things that I thought were good that maybe weren't.

And things that I thought were horrible that weren't bad either.

And so I kind of learned to try to reserve judgment when situations happen of what's good and bad and see what they are later.

So I hope it helps people because what I did when I set out four or five years ago on this change was I want to be the best version of myself.

I kind of figured my parents didn't have a.

a lot of time left.

And so I felt like I owed that to them.

And then obviously my children and family and players.

And so I just really worked on how can I be the best version of myself to give to everybody.

And I think that's very different than how I was living where before I was living about what did everything give to me.

And so I think that's really where they're changing.

And so I got to continue to work on that all the time.

I love that.

I can't wait for that message.

And I'm excited that there's inspiration out there for a lot of us that maybe want to change who we are or be the best version of ourselves, but are scared or maybe self-sabotage.

I assume there's a lot of potential, those thoughts that you're still battling every single day that you talk about.

Just know that we've all noticed your skin looks immaculate.

Yes, it does.

You have a good glow about you, and it feels like your teams are benefiting from the way that you're going about living your life now, which leads to this weekend.

Huge one.

I mean, absolutely huge one this weekend.

How do you feel about this year's squad?

And there was an announcement of the starting quarterback, I believe, just moments ago, right, Ton?

This just got announced that for the third straight week, you'll have

Trinidad Chandler and Ferris State quarterback.

I believe that was announced.

I'm not 100% sure if you made that decision publicly or not, but how do you feel about this year's team?

Well, that's good to know.

That'd be news to me that the starting quarterback's been figured out.

Okay, so that has not been announced.

I'll go down and tell our staff right here.

Okay, so that's not.

I've not broke it that Trinidad's our starting quarterback.

So,

no, we haven't made that decision yet.

I do think we have a good team.

We've done some good things, and both those quarterbacks are really, really good players.

So it's exciting to have them both.

This is a huge challenge for us.

I think that this LSU roster defensively is by far the best they've been in a long time.

They've done a great job.

As Brian Kelly alluded to, they spent a lot of money in the portal in the offseason, and it showed up.

I think you're seeing that in college football.

You know, I think numbers have shown, you know, Miami, Texas Tech, and LSU spent the most money in the portal.

And look how they're performing.

You know, this is a brand new defense at a lot of spots, and they're really talented, really good.

And that's why they're the third team in the country.

Yeah, it's fun to watch Louisiana kind of go, but it's also great to see your team ride every time.

We're happy that you guys are back in national prominence, mostly because we're all fans of you, brother.

That's why I'm excited for the documentary to learn even more about you.

Go ahead, AJ.

Yeah, Coach, going back, you mentioned, you know, what, four or five years ago, you started working on yourself and being the best you.

How has that affected you as a coach, like day to day?

I would imagine relationships with players, parents, everything would grow through that.

But

are you able to enjoy coaching more now?

I feel like we see my coaches are just miserable, miserable, and then, oh, well, I'm relieved when I get a win.

Like, it seems like a very tough profession, but how has it changed you, I guess, as you've gotten older?

Yeah, I think people that come around here have mentioned that.

You know, I had a sideline report last week said, you seem like the most relaxed coach right before the game of all the SEC coaches.

And I think I've worked on that a lot.

But I think

working on myself and being this version of myself has allowed me to just get into a space with myself in relationships with players and coaches and people that I just couldn't access before, if that makes sense.

Yes, absolutely.

More relatable.

Yeah, a little bit more of a human, probably here.

Yeah, yeah, not as transactional, not as, hey, I'll get you to the NFL.

Here's the plays that help you win versus, hey,

how are you doing in life?

Like, how can we help you all around?

And

so I just think that that has helped.

And it's not, I didn't do it to help.

It just, it's helped.

It's created more genuine relationships and

I don't know that that has to do with winning and losing I really don't care if it does

I just like living that way a lot better yeah I'm assuming it's much more fulfilling watching the boys grow the relationships and then seeing them have massive amounts of success you obviously we've seen everything you've done because of the football royalty that you're from your dad uh we believe we're like i think 100 sure 99 sure created like the tampa 2 obviously in the entirety whenever you talk about football and what that did to change the trajectory of the sport as a whole, especially defensive football.

You obviously on the offensive side, was that very young that you were like, I'm going to be a genius on the offensive side?

Was there ever a time where there was a thought of maybe I continue the defensive mastermindness of life?

And how do you feel about the way you go about running your offense?

The number we got is a third of your passes are explosive plays.

That number is outrageous.

The 33% of your throws are longer than 20 yards down the field.

They're completions down the field.

So how did we get to this offense?

And why did you choose offense, I think, with who your dad is is the questions that I have.

Yeah, I think playing quarterback helped me move that direction.

But I've been so fortunate in that because I was raised with my dad.

So I learned defense from him and I was always listening to the problems that teams and schemes gave him.

Then I went to Pete Carroll for six years as an assistant for him.

So I got to listen to him.

Then I went to Nick Saban.

You're talking about three of the greatest defensive minds ever that one I was raised with.

The other two I spent nine years combined with sitting in meetings where they were talking about what gives them problems and just kind of kept all that information and then created this offense and then added the tempo part to it, kind of the Baylor style when Art Bryles came to us at FAU.

And so that's where we are now.

And like you said, the explosive plays, I think, pays off.

I think we led the country in plus 30-yard plays last year and first again this year.

And obviously that has a lot to do with great players, too.

Yeah, but I mean you're fun to watch too, sprinting your ass down the sideline.

You get excited, throwing oops to the boys this past weekend.

I mean, we love, you guys are an exciting brand of ball, which I think is why we're all so pumped at Ole Miss all the way back.

Now, at the quarterback position, there's a lot of questions, especially with an announcement that was just made for the New York Giants.

Go ahead, D-Buck.

Yeah, Jackson Dart, obviously, he's in a big city right now.

He'll be starting his NFL career, being a starter this week.

But how do you kind of balance?

You're at a program where people and quarterbacks are are going to come and try to win a national championship.

How do you balance winning on the college level and developing these quarterbacks for the next level?

Yeah, our system really has a lot of NFL elements in it offensively for them.

Protections, routes,

different runs and stuff.

We just happen to go really fast.

And I think over time, defensive coordinators have said that, including Coach Saban, that What Ole Mist does, what this system does is it gives you problem plays, but goes really also.

And so I think that's helped our quarterbacks play really well.

It's awesome for Jackson.

Sounds like that's an official announcement of a starter.

Hold on, there was another.

Now, granted, if he ends up starting, I'm going to count it.

Yeah, on three was reporting this.

So it wasn't us that did this.

I just want to let you know.

And I have respect for.

Well, then it's got to be official.

It's somewhere on Twitter.

So that's

you got it.

That's absolutely right.

Yes.

Jackson was awesome for you guys.

Watch him run.

I think he got definitely concussed at one game against Florida, I think it was, if I recall.

He's tough, athletic.

The boys love him.

I guess the Moxie's through the roof.

Feels like we need that as a lane kiffen quarterback.

Is that something you look for?

The personality, the type of guys that you have on your team?

Is there Moxie confidence levels that you kind of either attract or look for whenever you're deciding who's going to be on Ole Miss?

There is.

It doesn't have to be because there's all kinds of different personalities that can be great quarterbacks.

I do really enjoy that relationship with Jackson Dart when you find somebody that really

commands the team in the locker room and is enjoyable to be around.

And,

you know, even though we get older as a coach, man, we still like hanging out with people.

And so, you know, you have an alpha male like that that's that's a great guy that comes from an awesome family.

Like it's great to hang out with too.

You know, we go, I beat him, but, you know, we go and play pickleball together.

You know, we've taken trips together.

So it was a really cool relationship and still is.

We actually have a bye, and I think they're playing at the Saints, so maybe I can go see him play.

But he's awesome.

I talk to him every week.

You're a pickleball player?

You're a good pickleball player?

Yeah, yeah.

I don't know that I'm good.

I have a really good partner.

Okay.

So that helps.

Yeah, but so you just hide out?

You just serve and then hide out and then the partner is taking all the kitchen work or what?

It depends.

Sometimes we play a 1-1 stack.

You know, like if we're down a little bit, I play the great player and then you just play behind, play, kind of fit off of him, you know, like a safety off of a great linebacker.

Where do we play at?

Do you guys have like a little spot there at Ole Miss?

Are you at a club?

You at a pickleball?

Is there pickleball clubs?

I guess there, there probably is at this point of this entire thing.

Not in Oxford, Mississippi.

No.

But we have a court right on campus right here, man.

We just go play with the people.

That's part of this whole Mississippi change, you know, like, and, and really,

when I say you don't know what to expect and what the plans are, and I had never thought, man, I'm going to love to live in Oxford, Mississippi.

That's where I want to go.

And I would have told you the opposite when I was in LA or in South Florida, probably.

And now I love it here.

And so sometimes just need a place to slow you down.

Yeah, the universal will guide you.

You know, they'll put you in there, especially if you're going to be doing some Pilates.

And I see you stretching that lower back in the downward dog.

And that looked like it's a great time.

There's a, you said if it's on Twitter, it must be official.

We saw something from your Twitter, okay, that we are all taking as official.

Connor has a question for you.

Yeah, coach, I love the stuff on Twitter.

Um, I'm really pumped for the over this weekend.

Go Rebels, um, all over it.

But one of my favorite parts is actually on Twitter when, uh, you know, you, you, you and your shenanigans, if you will, during SEC media day, um, what's your favorite part about fucking with Fine Bomb?

Because I love it, and it's, it's kind of the best content usually out of those media days over those couple weeks.

What is kind of the

overarching fun for you in it?

Well, I enjoy the Paul part.

You know, actually in that preview that you guys just showed, you know, Paul says the Miley Cyrus of college football, you know, like, and he's taking a shot at Miley Cyrus too, like that Miley Cyrus isn't good.

So I still say to him, I'm like, you know, Miley Cyrus is still doing pretty good.

So your comment didn't really like make a lot of sense.

At all.

And

so, but, you know, now Paul's like the expert on everything.

And so it's all right.

It's kind of, it's, it's enjoyable when I'm on with him and he just freezes

and he like gets stuck.

So I really, I really enjoy that.

Plus, he used to be mad, he used to be terrible to Coach Saban.

So I kind of feel like I got to get Coach Sabins back too.

How do you feel about Coach Saban, man?

I'm getting a chance to work with him.

I love him.

This guy is unbelievable.

He's unreal in every setting that I see him.

Dinner setting is unreal.

Production meeting is unreal.

Talking to the coach, he's unreal.

Sitting with us, he's unreal.

Leadership advice.

It's like every setting that I've seen him in.

He's like a machine of just like what the perfect thing to do is I couldn't imagine coaching with him you know in that trailer they talk about those are ash chewings okay we ain't this ain't an argument this ain't a two-way street here this is a one-way road what obviously you give him a lot of credit you just did there what did he mean to your career and is that going to be showcased you think during this documentary again i haven't seen it so but they said he interviewed him uh for it but he he was awesome for those three years to give me that opportunity to come work for him again

think about those defensive coaches i said i got got to be around.

Well, I got to be the offensive coordinator for a national championship Alabama Nick Saban team and USC national championship teams.

Like that's unbelievable to have those opportunities to learn from.

And

I just take a lot of both Pete Carroll and Nick Saban and what they did and have kind of combined it to what we are here.

I think we're kind of a real combination of both.

Go ahead, AJ.

I guess throughout all your different coaching gigs that you have had, I know coaches obviously are always moving around, but you've had so much different experience nfl college all over the place i guess were you always you know paying attention taking notes building your book of what you're going to do like as a head coach wherever that may be even no matter you know some places worked out better than others but you have so many things to so many great coaches i guess to rely on were you always taking things and writing them down like how do you remember these things that maybe nick saban said 15 20 years ago Yeah, I think just a lot of experiences with them.

And then when things come up, I do it all the time.

I'll have a situation come up, decision to make, and i'll go okay coach carol would have done this coach sabin would do this like and so it's just awesome experience to to draw back to um of being with those guys and and really young with coach carol and so you go through experiences and then you get these head jobs at really young age and so those are experiences too because you screw a lot up and you know i say to people think how much better you'd be as a parent the fifth time around well I get a lot of head jobs.

And so the fifth time around, you get a lot better if you learn from your mistakes.

So I think that's, that, that's kind of what I feel like's happened in my life and with coaching.

I think you were ahead of the curve whenever you sent Janikowski out there for a 76-yarder or whatever it was.

It's like they're doing that now.

Now guys are going out there for 66, 70 yards.

I think you were ahead of the curve and the confidence you showed in the Polish cannon is an absolutely beautiful thing.

I love that you did that.

I want to let you know.

And I hope that has a little piece of the documentary tonight.

Seabass didn't hit that one clean, but if he would have, that thing would have been good, I think, Lane.

I still think it was the right decision.

See, sometimes we're just ahead of the curve.

They just aren't ready for it yet.

And he had made that in practice.

And like you said, I've always been, I'm going to believe in the players.

We go for it more on fourth down than anybody.

We run all these plays.

That's not just out of nowhere.

It's because we believe in the players and we put on them.

Hey, we know you can make these plays.

And I think that's why a lot of people come play for us.

He can make us right 76.

Carlo Wind in the face.

That might be a little tough.

I don't know what this could be.

Actually, Leckler, the punter, is the one by me and goes, hey, we got this, coach.

And I'm like, all right, Shane, sure.

Shane's up for the Hall of Fame yet again.

I hope he gets in there.

Goat.

I love everything about him.

76-yard field goal.

It's 15-0.

Is that five field goals?

Would this have been the sixth field goal of the half?

No, but

it might have, it might have been.

Could you imagine Sebastian Jankowski as the greatest half in the history of a kicker?

This one comes up a little short.

Then I'm like, oh, shit.

There goes the returner.

Yeah.

Yeah, but the big play was made.

Yeah, Shane would have made the tackle for you.

Shane would have made the tackle for you.

All right, let's go over to him.

I could feel Al Davis up in the press box going, if it gets returned, this coach, I'm firing this coach.

I think he fired me the next week anyway.

Hold on.

You were left on a tarmac too?

What was that?

USC?

Is that real?

I was USC.

I wasn't left on the tarmac.

It sounds better when you say tarmac.

We landed, and then the AD in the airport right there in a side room met with me.

And I was actually on the bus going back to the facility at USC because I used to sleep at the office back then and get ready for the next game.

And

he called me.

It was like three o'clock, like in the private airport there.

And that's where he told me.

So he showed up a little bit late.

Oh, where's he at?

He's already on the bus.

We didn't want that then.

To get me off the bus.

I had no idea.

You're sitting in the front seat there?

Yeah.

Which is why I was upset at Feinbaum because that day is the day Feinbaum, it's like his first time on Game Bay.

He must make this big splash, which remember, he was a Tennessee guy, so he hated me for leaving Tennessee.

So here was his chance.

So he does this whole Miley Cyrus thing, and the AD and president are watching it like, well, we probably got to get rid of this head coach if it was like Miley Cyrus.

They get rid of me that morning

at three in the morning, whatever it is.

So

and now I can look back and say, Hey, Paul, thanks, because if you wouldn't have got me fired there, I would have never got to Nick Saban.

And then Nick Saban leaves down to South Florida, where you start doing your thing, and then all of a sudden we're at Ole Miss, and now your name's up for everything, everywhere, all the time.

And we're thankful that you're back at the top.

Let's go to Hammer Don Tom.

AP Tone has a question for you.

Yeah, coach, you don't mind taking jabs at other SEC coaches on Twitter or interviews.

Who's your favorite SEC coach to take jabs at?

And who do you play more pickleball or does Hugh Freeze play more golf?

um

i think hugh freeze plays a lot more golf and um you know pickleball is like 30 minutes over here you know like we go over and play and and it's kind of bonding too staff we play players play with the players sometimes um me and one of our coaches beat our two receivers the other day come on you're beating the boys just beating

i don't know what coach i don't know what coach you know

jimbo's gone now so i don't know

all right um

Last question.

Harold Perkins, obviously an absolute monster on the LSU defense.

Wit Wakes is a beast.

We all know that.

We know that he.

Yep.

He is an absolute beast.

How are you preparing for this LSU defense?

What are the thoughts?

Well, these guys are really good, as you said.

Those are two great, phenomenal players.

Good men, too, from what I've been told.

Yeah, Perkins has got to be the fastest linebacker we've seen in a long, long time.

Like, this guy's like Derek Brooks or something.

I mean, he chases people down.

It's unbelievable his skill set.

We played him as a true freshman.

I thought for sure by now he'd be gone as the fifth pick of the draft somewhere or something.

So

it's really challenging.

They do a great job.

They're really well coached.

And now they've got the secondary better with these three new pieces they went out and bought.

And so

this is this is big time now.

It certainly is.

We can't wait to watch your team.

We're incredibly proud of you, even though we don't know you for everything that you've gone through and where you've gotten today we can't wait to watch tonight alongside you i guess you're gonna be watching whoa i couldn't even imagine the anxiety potentially leading up to what seven o'clock is gonna bring but maybe you don't even have that anymore because it's the new lane kiffin we'll learn about that tonight no i really don't i mean i'll be here working actually

and um and someone asked me about that and they said and i said i'm not worried because when you're genuine and real in the interviews and everything,

whatever people take is what they take.

You don't have to worry about anything.

So

there's no anxiety about it.

Yeah, and I'm not going to add anything.

There's more anxiety about this LSU defense.

I can promise you that.

Okay, Reese, as there has to be.

I mean, the boys are flying around.

They got a six-foot-five safety, I think, and in a six-foot-three corner, you talked about pieces being bought, which is incredible, which actually leads to, what are your thoughts on the current state of college football?

I guess we should.

We ask this to everybody.

What are your thoughts on it?

Obviously, you have to adapt, evolve, you have to lean into it.

If you want to have success, what's everybody's rules?

How do you feel about it as a guy who's been around for so damn long?

Yeah, I don't like it for college football at all.

I mean, I don't think there's anybody that

thinks it's a good thing that players are playing at four or five teams, you know, in college.

And so

I don't like that.

I don't like that it doesn't have the same camaraderie in the locker room because, you know, everyone chose to go there or grow up wanting to go to the school where so many players are now, which is fine.

But they choose to go to school because it pays them more money.

They didn't even grow up a fan of it.

So I don't like that part of it.

And it gives the kids away whenever things aren't going well, I just go in the portal and I leave.

So

there are good parts of it for the players.

It's great that they get paid,

but I don't think it's really good for college football that there's so much movement.

Feels like everybody's saying the same thing.

Have a great season.

Good luck.

And you're one of the most influential voices in the sport.

So keep saying it, brother.

Keep saying it.

All right, guys.

Have a great week.

Thanks for having me.

Hey, thank you for joining us.

We should do this again.

Yeah, this is my first invite ever.

That's not true.

Lane, that is not true.

You know that.

There's my SID.

It's true.

He just said it's true.

Yeah, that guy's coming.

Okay, yeah.

I'm just saying that.

I've tried to come on.

I think I've even tried to come on.

You guys like, yeah, we got bigger people, you know, like bigger than Lane Kiffin.

Yeah, right.

Get on here.

Ladies and gentlemen, for the first time.

SID sucks.

I don't like that.

My Campbell.

He's a Campbell.

Yeah, yeah.

Samuel's name.

Yeah, he still sucks.

Yeah, no, he's great.

He's great.

All right, we appreciate the hell out of you.

Good luck with everything.

Thank you for joining us, and congrats on finding who you're supposed to be throughout this entire life process.

Ladies and gentlemen, the head coach at Old Miss Lane Kiffin.

Crazy life.

Yeah.

That's going to be great.

Yes.

That trailer was awesome.

We have pitched things like this by a lot of people.

You know, like, hey, here's a trailer for a documentary we're doing.

Do you want to talk to the person?

Hey, here's a trailer for a documentary.

Do you want to talk?

It's a very cool stage of this show, having that kind of show up.

That is much better than having to, which we still have to do every single day.

It's a fucking process, you know, and you'll take care of it.

As soon as that trailer came through, just because of my age and I think our age, like we have lived Lane Kiffin's entire thing.

So for him sitting down and chit-chatting about it, like very excited.

And McGee

is the one doing it.

Now we're talking, AJ.

I mean, when I saw McGee pop up in the the trailer, yeah, you knew it was going to be great, but most people don't.

I mean, I forget a lot of Lane's, the things that happened with Lane and the tarmac and the Raiders gig.

Like, Lane has lived a co-over life as a coach, and he's only 50 years old.

Like, the dude, it's going to be great.

I can't wait to see this.

His football life has been in dog ears.

Like,

absolutely.

You know, for Tennessee, we see that with the Florida thing then showing, nope, that ain't going to happen.

Then leaving in the middle of the night, see, I don't want to do it.

USC.

Then USC becoming the tarmac story.

I was actually way off the tarmac when I threw the FBO.

They probably gave him a little food, actually, a little snack.

Got onto the bus, sat down on the bus, and then I was called back off of the bus, back into FBO, back in the private room.

Then I was fired.

But I guess there was a tarmac at some point in that entire thing that ran with it.

And then his resurgence in the college ball, all the rumors, all the stories.

I mean, it's just one thing after another.

Lane Kiffiff and Lane Kiffiff and Lane Kiffin, Lane Kiffiff, and Lane Kiffin.

And then now it feels like he's very content.

Yeah.

Feels like he's very content.

He's going to be there for the next 25 years.

Like, that's how it feels.

Never would have said I wanted to live in Oxford, Mississippi.

Okay, never would have said that.

Jeez, Louise, could you imagine?

And they said, I get here.

Turns out I needed this place.

I love this place.

His name is up for a job on a regular basis.

There's one panhandle over there, the guides.

His name is up all the time for the Florida Gators.

Anytime there's a thought that the Gators might be up, it's like Lane Kiffin.

Really?

Lane Kiffin?

Lane Kiffin.

And then people are like, Lane?

Lane loves Florida.

There's always like that whole thing.

Seems like he's pretty happy with everything going on at Ole Miss.

Rebel.

He's very comfortable.

And if he does he have the backing, he has to.

All the players he has.

He has to have money down there.

Yeah, they've lost a couple.

I mean, they lost Judkins.

They are the only one, though.

They are traditionally one of the highest spenders in the portal each season.

What were you shaking your head for?

Maybe now.

I was just thinking NIL, though.

I don't think Ole Miss.

When I think SEC, Ole Miss isn't one of the first four teams I'm thinking of.

Okay, who are they?

Georgia, for sure.

Bama.

Bama.

Texas, LSU, Oklahoma.

I mean, I don't know if Oklahoma's up to A ⁇ M.

You're thinking of A ⁇ M before Old Miss right now?

In terms of money?

Yeah.

Oh, no, I'm not.

No, just name recognition.

Yeah, I didn't know you were talking about money.

I thought you were saying name recognition.

Oh, no, but

same deal.

They wouldn't be like...

I think Old Miss above a couple of those schools, you said.

Name recognition?

For money, I think.

I think some of those schools don't have a lot.

Oh, for money.

Yeah, for money.

We're talking about money, right?

Right.

Yeah, I think there's a couple of those schools that maybe over the next 10 years, we'll see what ends up happening.

Yeah, and like I said, I could be wrong.

It's just, I mean...

And they've been good throughout his tenure, obviously, and they need to kind of make that next step and get to the playoffs.

But they're still, I feel like, in the SEC, kind of always on the outside looking in.

Yeah, the SEC coaches and people are talking about how much money the North has.

A lot of money being talked about from the North, AJ.

And all the North used to talk about is how much money the South used to give to everybody.

that is kind of what the that used to be the combo.

Now it's completely flipped.

Like, we can't keep it.

What are we?

What are we?

These guys got sick.

They're billionaires.

What's this?

What is going on up here?

And then the North was like, oh, it was fun, wasn't it?

Whenever nobody was allowed to do it, but everybody was doing it.

That's literally the two conversations taking place.

I love that Lane Kiffins back in the spotlight.

Ladies and gentlemen, let's spotlight something that doesn't get spotlighted enough.

Let's spotlight the big guys.

It's time to go in the trenches with the top five performing offensive lines from week three of the NFL season.

Let's go, Coach Cuge.

Here we go.

Number five.

Number five, the Washington Commanders.

Whoa.

Marcus Mariota, quarterback.

Marcus Mariota, and they did not skip a beat with him in there.

And if you take a look at this, look, look who's over there at right tight end.

Who is that?

78.

Carmen Tunsell.

What?

Move him over, and they only got a tight end over here.

And they're doing all the same stuff they do with Jaden Daniels.

They do not skip a beat with Cliff Kingsbury at the helm, calling plays, and this guy in there, Marcus Mariota at quarterback.

It's the same offense.

They had over 200 yards rushing.

Rookie Connerly Jr.

against Max Crosby only gave up one sack and it was late.

Really good group.

Really good group.

That looks pretty easy for Marcus Mariota there.

Yeah, wait.

If Tonson's at right tackle, who's the caboose at left tackle?

The left tackle is

large.

Who the hell?

Oh, the guards.

Yeah, they had tackle over, bro.

You know who that is?

That's Chris Paul.

They had two new guards in this game, too.

Chris Paul played left guard, and Nick Alegretti, who came over from the Chiefs, was out, and they played Andrew Wiley.

So whole new unit and still

for you.

AJ Hawk, what are the percentages of tackle over and then running the opposite way?

I assume a defense thinks you move Laramie Tunzo over there for a reason.

We're obviously going heavy.

We're going left, left, left, close, close, close.

What are you doing?

And then for them to go the back way, is that just not expected?

That's what Cliff Kingsbury's doing here?

Yeah, and you read that end too.

If you run it back, who's the end?

Was it 51 right here?

He's unblocked, and you're reading him.

So watch the bluff by the tight end.

Oh, here we go.

He didn't know what to do.

Like, who am I supposed to take if I'm that DN?

Good luck.

Great.

But yeah, this also sets up for when they do want to run to that overload side.

It's good to show this for a defense because they can't just load up and say, all right, they're running to tunnel.

Not just against the Raiders.

We're talking about for the next three, four weeks, too, running this week, right?

Absolutely, because this thing, like when you run a play, it stays on tape for four weeks.

You got to prepare for it.

There's another play I wanted to show, but he fumbled late and gave up the ball.

But they had guard and tackle pulling left, guy in motion going right, tight end coming back across.

The defense defense was in a blender, just stuck.

And then Marcus Mariota out in front, like the whole defense went left, and then he just follows his two tight ends.

Like they're doing some really cool stuff.

Feels like there's some play designers and play callers that can make offensive linemen better.

The Washington Commanders, number five, coming out of week three.

Who's the number four ranked performing offensive line of week three?

The Minnesota Vikings.

Congratulations, Vikings.

And let's start with big number 71.

Christian Darasaw is back from his ACL injury.

Watch it.

Again, we talk about making it easier for guys, right?

We're going to send Hawkinson through.

Derasaw looks like he's just walking.

All he's doing is stealing Trey Hendrickson right there.

Opens up the hole.

Donovan Jackson, big number 74, the rookie out of Ohio State.

Let's take a look at him,

put his guy on his ass, and then let's look at Brian O'Neill on the backside, big number 75, Pro Bowler out of Pittsburgh from Delaware, driving his ass on the ground.

O'Neill out of Pittsburgh.

He's not scared to get rough and tough out there.

Kevin O'Connell, one of those guys that helps out the offensive line?

He does a fantastic job.

All the guys that come from the McVay system, they they understand Cliff Kingsbury, McVay, Kevin O'Connell, all these guys understand that when you make it easier, you're not running your head into a brick wall like half the guys in this league.

AJ, who should we be talking about?

Look at the center, 65.

Look how fast he gets up to the second level.

Here we go.

All right, Ariel, good luck.

Run through my body if you want to get to this guy.

It's so annoying when centers get up to the second level that quick.

Like, all right, man, what am I going to do here?

Does a great job wheeling his hips, too, and hooking them at the end there.

All right.

Minnesota Vikings, number four.

Congrats to them.

Who's the number three ranked offensive line coming out of week three the best team in the NFL the Buffalo Bills whoa

best team

I like that the number three offensive line

here let me set this up real quick so they're going to make it look like they are running zone to the right if you notice they got back offset to the left full back offset to the right They're going to make it look like they're running zone to the right and sending Jackson Haas back across.

But guess what?

They're running same side counter, making it it easy on the tight end, coming back across.

Seal him, full back around.

Two tight end or tight end fullback coming back on the counter.

Pretty awesome stuff.

Just easy yards, you're saying.

What do the Finns do it?

This is what you do.

This is how you do it.

Look, they make it seem like they get him crashing down because he thinks it's zone away, and it's same side counter coming right back to him.

AJ, what are your thoughts on what the Dolphins are doing?

What are they reading?

What are they misreading, pal?

Well, I don't know.

You put him in, it makes it tough, too, because the tight end's coming back.

So he's diving under the DN number two there.

He's diving under.

Next time, you might bluff him and go around, and we're going to keep it and go outside.

So, whatever you choose, whether to dig it out or try to box it, you might be screwed.

So many quick decisions.

Well, they're slanting.

Look at the whole D line slanting down.

That's the thing.

You're running that right into that slanting D line.

You see both of them crashing down.

Like, good luck.

That's a good time to call that play.

So many quick decisions have to be making them.

We got DBs making tackles on running backs.

I know you guys love that.

Don't love that.

That ain't what we get paid for.

That's what we get paid for.

They did our guy to that.

Exactly.

Good coaching.

All right, who's the number two offensive line in the NFL out of week three yeah

all right boys

i i don't love the two up there i thought there may be a different number but i like that they're getting recognized number two is pretty good three weeks number two is pretty good let's start with that vocal leader you keep talking about i keep talking about quenten nelson let's watch this single with him and bordellini up to the backside backer and then let's take a look at tyler warren supposed to go downhill scoot out

right shoulder make a move spin see you later boys off to the house the boys a player yeah that's what we do around here.

Michael Pittman getting something late, too.

I like that downfield.

Quentin Nelson and Moralini are Paisons quickly.

It seems like they're on the same page.

Is there anything different with this offense than there was last year, or is it just more to this offense than there was last year?

I mean, Tyler Warren gives you that added element.

Like, even right here, like, obviously, he's in tight end.

Sometimes he lines up at fullback.

There's so much stuff he can do.

And in this case, right here, when you look at this from the very beginning, he's supposed to hit through straight ahead, right through that B gap.

But then he recognizes it and doesn't just run into his tackle, makes a little subtle move and still gets a great block.

Yeah, so Jonathan Taylor has to just kind of follow his blocks.

And that right there.

You didn't see that in years past.

That's what gives you the home run runs is receivers extra effort downfield.

Like he could have stopped right there, which kind of looks like he does.

Let's go get a piece because this could have been a tackle.

That's that for keeping.

You're talking about a block in the background.

Yeah, it was close.

I'd be pissed.

He dove and missed a lot.

He hit him on the shoulder.

He hit him on the side, clearly.

Got his left hand over on shoulder.

Good run by JT, but those holes are so big.

I mean, anybody can fit through them.

Huge.

And it starts by having a fullback.

I talk about this all the time.

If there's no fullback there, they're out-leveraged against the defense.

And when you have the fullback, now you can work back again.

What a run.

That part right there.

That's the special part.

And then the celebration is sick as well.

I will say.

AJ, how do you stop it?

You don't.

You don't.

You don't stop there.

I mean, look at him.

Look how many people he makes miss.

You are not supposed to score on this play, and he does.

This is awesome.

Jonathan Taylor playing very good football right now.

The Colts playing very good football.

What a play by Quentin Nelson, too.

Like, what a great stat for Quentin Nelson.

Are you kidding me?

That's a great one.

And then he'll be the first one.

Donner, look at bop, bop, bop, Quentin Nelson.

We got to get down here.

Boys, we did it, boys.

We did it, boys.

I love everything about it.

If they're not number one, who is?

Who's the number one performer?

Oh,

okay.

Hell yeah.

All right.

I understand what they did.

You had to do it.

Fair play.

Fair play.

Forward.

The Detroit Lions, number one.

And let's take a look at this right here.

We got that super eye formation again, right?

Now we're going to go over.

And D-butt, AJ, talk a little bit how this affects you guys, too, because when you line up in that straight eye, you don't know where the strength of the formation is.

And then they motion.

So it like holds the defense for a half a second.

Now you see them.

They're trying to get adjusted to it.

And then boom, you snap it quick on them.

Yeah, that's more so for AJ.

They're still playing his cold.

But yeah, you're waiting.

When that stacked that humid centipede eye, you're waiting for them to shift down.

They could also snap the ball there, too.

So this gets their defense playing on the heels for sure.

Talking about the soul training line, a conger line, the dance line.

Look at them.

They're still trying to get lined up.

Oh, now we get the nose guard down.

Finally.

And then they get everybody plussed over to the strength.

And I always say it, whenever you run this duo play to the strong side, everybody overplays it.

And when you overplay it, what's juicy?

That big backside B cut.

Watch Penne Sewell.

and Ratledge open this thing up.

Right tackle, right guard.

Right guard, right tackle.

Follow the circle.

So

take him inside, take him out.

Look at that hole, boys.

Great vision.

Penney had to feel pretty good.

Missing Van Noy.

I mean, what a moment this is for Penne.

Watch how cool Pen A looks throughout the entirety of this thing.

Okay, obviously, gonna have to get the edge.

Let me go ahead and create a hole.

Follow my ass.

I got you.

And then he just throws the guy to the ground and then he just struck off.

Yeah, what up?

That's exactly what a day for Ben A.

Sewell.

He's been a guy since he got there, huh?

And he got the highest run blocking grade PFF has ever given out in this game right here.

Wow.

For whatever that's worth.

Wow, PFF did that.

Hey, really?

I like that.

Well, congrats

to the top five offensive lines around the NFL.

That normally bodes well for how your team's going to do the rest of the year.

If this follows the trend of last year's in the trenches, top five performing offensive lines of each week.

Number one, Lions, two Colts.

All right.

Buffalo Bills, Minnesota Vikings, Washington Commanders, a lot of good football teams, a lot of good play callers.

Detroit Lions, we should consider them to be all the way back when it comes to play calling, play designing, and everything like that.

This was cool for me to see this week because last week I was a little concerned after week one.

Last week, it was a lot of gadgets, a lot of creativity, a lot of shifts, motions, making it easy on the O-line.

This week, they lined up and said, we're going to beat the shit out of you.

No, we're going to put three guys in the backfield behind you.

Yeah, I think that's a Johnny Moe special, too, because I don't think Ben Johnson ever did this.

First time we saw this, and they ran this play a lot.

Well, what do you know, Johnny Moe?

He said, I got three guys in the backfield.

How about that?

That play near the goal line, too.

They hit it.

St.

Brown, pitched it.

That was hell of a blow.

Handoff pitch.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That was awesome.

Coming right to the quarter change.

Yeah, perfect.

And go back to the second quarter, same formation, ran the quarterback sneak.

So they set it up with the quarterback sneak with St.

Brown offset to the left, and then they come back and run it.

It's always setting it up.

It's always Johnny Moe down.

That's Johnny Moe.

Up air motion.

Congratulations.

There it is.

That's tough.

That is tough.

Is that Sonic and Knuckles?

Yeah, I'm not sure.

I don't know if we can give

four or five.

Not sure we can give Johnny Moe credit.

I believe they ran that last year, Foxy.

What do you mean?

Pretty sure I saw a clip of 2019

Taysom Hill and Camara when Dan Campbell was with the Saints.

Oh, it's a Dan Campbell play.

Amon can make that pitch.

Amon does everything for us.

He's unbelievable, by the way.

Yeah, St.

Brown.

So those three of Amon Ra and the two running backs is just.

Congratulations to the Lions.

Number one offensive line after week three.

Now, ladies and gentlemen, it's time to learn about the other side of the ball.

It has been a staple of the program.

It has made us all better and smarter.

It's time to go.

Everything, DB.

Good D and Bad D.

Darius, what do we have?

Here we go, D.

Bucks.

The Good D talking about highest-rated games by PFF since we were holding their water today.

99.9 grade for Isaiah Rodgers.

Had an unbelievable game, had a pick six that we've seen a couple times earlier throughout the week.

And this, look, you get a little positive gain if you're the Bengals first and 10.

Nope.

Stripped it, picked it up, and took it back to the crib for for his second touchdown.

The only Vikings defender to ever score multiple TDs in a game.

We've been talking about this punch out.

You rarely see it from guys of his stature, especially on a big tight end.

But when you attack that ball, strip it, pick it up, and then crib it.

I mean, that's the trifecta.

He is a special, special player.

Big addition to this Minnesota Vikings defense.

And this is just an all.

This is one of those games you dream about on Saturday night when you go to sleep, man.

Big time game by this guy.

I'm going to score two touchdowns tomorrow.

Yeah.

NFC defensive defensive player of the week, and obviously, rightfully so.

Very violent defense, though.

On the zoom in there, the punchout very violent.

The linebacker over there was violent.

It feels like B-Flow's defense, Humming.

Isaiah Rogers, perfect for them.

We're also incredibly happy for Isaiah.

Yeah, he bounced back.

You know, you go through some shit.

He was suspended for a year.

Young player made some mistakes, former cult, went and won a Super Bowl with the Eagles, and then was a big-time addition here.

Eagles, maybe even missing him a little bit because they're still trying to figure out who's going to be that other corner opposite of Quinn Mitchell.

But yeah, he is making a great career for himself.

Bottom floor is a lot of good D.

Oh, yeah, a lot of good D.

Pause on that.

But yes, a lot of D F.

What he's talking about,

a lot of good D fans.

A lot of Good D from B Flo.

It's just Good D everywhere.

Oh, yeah.

Get you some of this Good D.

Over here is Good D.

Over there is Good D.

Good dump D, but everywhere is Good D.

That is what it is.

Good coach.

Good ballpoint.

B-Flow's good D coach.

Great ball coach.

He'll coach you up on that D.

Yeah.

Great ball.

He's got an average D, he'll make it good D.

That's what he did when he went to the Vikings.

Without a doubt.

That's what Kevin O'Connell was like.

KOC is like, I need that good D.

Let me bring in Brian Flores.

Yeah, he knew.

He knew.

No, that's what he said.

KOC, when he was on the program, he said, when I become a head coach, the only D I need is Brian Flores' D in order for this team to kind of make it over the hump.

And we will say Brian Flores' D has been perfect for KOC, and it's been sweet to see with that good old D over there with the Vikings, you know, and that's something that we all skull.

Skull.

Skull.

Skull about.

It's hard not to.

And then they blow that horn.

Yeah.

Kind of blow your lid off.

Everybody skulls.

Yeah, here's your pool.

You know, a lot of

we're down with the good D.

There's just more good D here.

This is a great defense.

Why don't you pitch a shutout in the National Football League?

I don't care who you're playing against.

It's tough to do, especially against a divisional opponent.

Michael Pennix Jr.

had a very, very tough outing against this Panthers defense.

You'll see

it's it's too early to say Zach Robinson they made some changes they fired their wide receiver coach so

wasn't he telling Pennix like hey dude throw this ball here you know what

it's it's probably something that happened in the in the locker room for sure when it's something like that happens but Smith Wade leaves yeah Smith Wade in the slot here you'll see me cover now actually this didn't start It's great defense, in my opinion, because you run it here, and then you pause it right before he throws the ball.

You got a dagger concept at the bottom of the screen.

And Ray Ray McLeod is going to be wide open coming in.

Usually you want to hit this guy about two yards outside of the hash.

He doesn't see him.

Instead, he tries to go to the check down to the flat late, which you can never do in the NFL.

Kenny Moore had a very similar pick six to start off the game against the Titans.

Well, actually run it back a little bit.

Start off the game against the Titans.

So right here, maybe this is what fooled him.

And we talk about it all the time with quarterback development, showing him something pre-snap.

and then rotating something different post-snap.

So right now it looks like split safety.

So possibly cover two, maybe some quarters, and then you rotate to a single high post-snap.

So maybe he expected something differently pre-snap, rotated post-snap, didn't hit his read, tried to go to a check down and paid dearly.

I have a question.

I have a question.

So he put that person in motion.

They put old buddy in motion.

Stud.

What's his name?

Kyle Pitts.

Kyle Pitts.

He put Kyle Pitts in motion.

It's not me in his zone.

Yep.

Okay, that's a reason why that's a teller, indicator or whatever, because nobody's following.

So whenever he takes a snap here, should his first look be to how many safeties are back there because he knows it's his own?

Is that his first look if you're a quarterback?

Absolutely.

So as soon as

he potentially should see that this is one right here.

Very good.

You're going to see middle close, middle open.

That's one of the first things you're looking at because that changes the pass concept a lot of times for the wide receivers and the DBs, but wide open.

And Dagger, you run Dagger against damn near any covers, you know, cover two, cover four, cover three.

His guy, like, he's looking that way.

I don't understand why he doesn't go kind of from the high to the low.

That's how we're taught to defend routes.

And he did a great job in the flat being patient and then breaking.

We always talk about breaking on like indicators, breaking when the quarterback is ready to pass the ball, breaking the egg, some people call it, take their hand off the ball.

He was an awk-looking throw, left side, but great job anticipating, seeing it, and then breaking and making him pay, taking him to the crib.

There wasn't a bunch of pressure there either.

It's not like he did.

He was a hand scratcher.

Yeah.

He's young.

He's young.

Let the boy develop.

Okay, like Arch Manning down here in Texas

and DJ Lagway over there in Florida.

Let's let these guys develop, okay?

We don't need these short leashes all the time.

With that being said, there's $180 million quarterback

in

backup.

Yeah.

Raheem Morris put that down pretty quick.

Pretty quick.

Yeah, Kirk lost his job.

We're nowhere near that.

Next question.

He did have a bad game.

That's going to happen.

Terrible game.

Terrible game.

No good.

Downright.

Absolutely terrible game.

Yeah, it was bad.

Let's bury the ball.

Yeah, that's buried the ball for sure.

You never want to get shut out.

Young quarterback, old

quarterback, I don't care.

CJ Stroud had a great rookie year, have been struggling since.

Big moment in the game.

It's fourth quarter.

You're down a touchdown.

In good field position right here.

This was a great, once again, pre-snap disguise because right now this looks like man-to-man coverage.

It's Jordan Lewis, one of the better slot corners in the league, paid him some good money coming over from the Cowboys.

And watch how he fooled.

Like, when I saw this live on TV, I'm like, what the hell is CJ Stroud doing?

I'm thinking it's just a flat defender.

I was there the whole time.

He thought he had the seven route was wide open trying to sell it over the other man-to-man defender who would be on Dalton Schultz in the flat.

Nope.

Baited him, had the vision, saw him go out wide, baited him into that throw.

And it is, it's still a terrible pick, you know, on film, but you got to feel that.

You got to see that if you're a quarterback.

But once again, showing a quarterback a pitcher pre-snap and then showing him something different post-snap is something you got to adjust and deal with.

He baited butter.

Baited butter.

Yeah, baited butter here.

And Jacksonville, there too?

Leading the league right now, interceptions.

So I believe.

Is Travis Honey playing defense?

He is.

He's playing a lot of defense.

And he's getting it.

I think he's playing good.

He had some bang-bang plays with Nico Collins.

But he's playing good on both sides of the ball, I think.

You know, as the season goes on,

I feel like maybe a little lost in the sauce a little bit on offense right now.

It's a lot.

A lot of he's got to figure out.

A lot on his plate.

I wonder if they go a little more, hey, just play this side of the ball for the next few weeks.

Which would that be?

That's on Liam because

he's dynamic.

Yeah, when he got the ball.

When he got the ball on Sunday, I mean, it was...

Election.

Yeah, it should have been a five-yard gain, and it was a 15-yard first now.

And then on defense, look, we saw him covering this guy.

He's a part of this play here, fourth quarter, obviously.

Big play in the game.

He's out there locked down.

Yeah, but if I had to choose...

you know, offense.

You talk about quarterbacks being paid a ton of money, being handed the keys, number one pick, already got a second contract, new coach.

Let's see what we got with this guy.

And you don't want one of your more talented players not really knowing where to line up because you can't play.

You got to be able to just react and let those skills fully flourish.

There can be maybe some situations defensively.

For sure.

That you kind of have him out there because he's obviously an insane athlete and has the capability of doing it.

And if they have a bunch of weapons on the other side, maybe get him a chance to get out there.

There he is with the ball in his hands.

Yeah.

So when you see some shit like that, it's like, all right, we got to.

Let's get the ball in his hands.

We got to get this kind of ball.

See, returning kicks, too, or what are we going to do?

Let's get him some touches, for sure.

What what were you gonna say aq it felt like you were gonna say something so etn's also i think number two or number three in the league in rushing so like they have a very good run game their offensive lines drastically improved they got the quarterback they got some receivers the tight end brenton strange has become a guy so like they're pretty good yeah they traded uh tank bigsby um and they're backup now basil tutan actual name b-ha s scored y-l I think Tootin

very good has scored the last two games like he honestly almost compliments ETM better because he's like a shorter, shiftier guy, whereas Tank was more so just like, hey, run right downhill, right through a motherfucker's face.

And Liam, good play designer and good play caller, right?

Great play designer and great play caller.

Okay, Jacksonville, Mike.

How do we feel about the quarterback?

Trevor Lawrence?

Yeah, how do we feel, Akush?

There's still a lot left to see.

I think his stats were 20 of 40 this past week.

20 of 40.

Hey, I'm taking the Hall of Fame, MOB.

I mean,

first bout,

there's just still too many interpolations.

And there's also decisions that are made that it's like, that's a bad decision.

Yeah.

Too many bonehead plays.

Yeah.

Maybe you miss a throw, like that's going to happen, but like decision and miss throw.

At this stage, I think a lot of people are like, when are we?

When is it?

Is it?

Are we ever going to?

Right.

That's all we were thinking.

But hey, we see it, though.

It's there.

There's moments of awesome.

He's got like, gee, he's just got that little bit of Ryan Leaf still in him.

And once he gets it out, he's going to really fly.

Just kind of like lets it loose.

Exactly.

Just a little too loosey-goosey with it.

Like once you zero it in a little bit here, I mean, that boy is going to, they might win the bowl.

Liam will do that.

Liam will do that.

I think I trust him down there.

And I'm seeing a graphic on the back that I have not seen before.

What is this?

Yeah, Liam.

Liam's calling some good shit to AQ's point.

Yeah, this is, I think, the first time we've had a quad box on everybody.

Look at the quad box.

We've got circles on people with a wide-ass open.

Is that what that is?

Yes, and it's not a good one.

As you can see here, it's probably difficult for you to see him individually, but these were all four of Caleb Williams' touchdown passes.

Now, there have been plays, and there always will be plays where people, fans, at home, hey, the guy was wide open.

Why not hit?

He had one actually earlier this year with DJ Moore, which was an adjustment.

Why don't you hit him?

So, to Caleb's credit, he hit the open guys.

Ben Johnson dialed up some good stuff, but let's get to the tape and see two of these touchdowns.

I mean, you rarely see guys open like that in the National Football League.

It's a flea flicker.

Pause it.

Cover three on any level of football.

Cover three.

What's the cornerback's responsibility?

In cover three, deep third.

Deep third.

So that's letting you know top down.

So you do not have a run responsibility.

The only time you have a run responsibility is if your guy crack blocks, your wide receiver crack blocks, he makes a contact, and then you see the running back downfield, you make a tackle

10 yards down the field.

You're a deep third guy.

Let it play.

So once the ball is tossed to the running back, you should not be firing up, especially when that receiver is doing that.

There's no way you or the free safety should be reacting to a handoff or a toss behind the line of scrimmage.

Because when you do, this is what's going to happen.

And once again, credit to Caleb catching this ball and throwing the piss out of it.

In stride, Luther Burton, the rookie, big time play, 65-yard.

That's a hunk.

Yeah.

Especially with that toss back.

I mean, that thing was in the sky.

It was like the toss he sent to Coach Johnson in a locker room.

And then he puts that thing on the dime.

Hell of a ball.

Guys wide open, obviously.

Can't have it.

Can't have it.

You can't have it.

But that's discipline.

That's like you are a deep third player, so uh, I mean, working perfectly, learn from yeah,

we're gonna hand this off.

Everybody's gonna jump, and then we'll they'll be wide open.

Like, when somebody thought of the flea flicker, this was the exact reaction, yeah, exactly.

This is the exact reaction.

This is like a Friday practice script for success.

You tell the scout team corner, hey, get ready for a run here, and then you run up, but you don't see guys, you see flea flickers work, but I mean, for him to be this wide-ass open, once again, a great throw from Caleb Williams to take advantage of

a terrible job on defense.

And this is another one from the quad box, Cole Komet.

Now, YY wing up top, those two tight ends.

Always has to be some communication between the flat defender who is the circle safety there, and then the linebacker who's going to be relating to three.

Sometimes even the cornerback, especially if that back is to it, you just got to know because one of the things we see a lot of YY are two seams, right?

So right here, I believe this would be like a cover three type look down in the low red area.

Run fake, running back bites up, which he has run responsibility, but nobody takes the scene.

Wide-ass open.

You would think, you know, tight ends.

I mean,

I don't get it.

Like, I don't understand.

The run fake actually helps him out a little bit.

I think the run fake bringing three over to the two-man side to the Y-Y wing, it brings you like naturally where you could see that vertical.

You could turn and run with it a little bit.

What the hell's going on over there, AJ?

I don't know what coverage they're playing.

I can't speak for what their responsibilities may be, but I'm sitting there.

If I see Y-Y wing, i'm thinking i'm talking to my backers hey tell me in the back is away pre-snap i'm talking like you let me know if you're with me or you're not if he stays on that side i know i don't have any help if he comes if he comes over here to the yy wing i got help inside i can drop one back oh i love that that's hall of fame talkery that is hall of family that is

i don't know what coverage they're playing though to be honest yeah that's a that's a problem whatever hall of famer future hall of famer you can look at the tape and say i don't know what they're playing and you see a guy catch the ball i don't i don't know if it's a defender within 10 yards of him from the 10 yard line in the end zone.

You don't see that once again.

Caleb got real excited, threw some real sauce on this.

Yeah.

And it almost makes it look like he's not as open.

You know, because it's kind of a diving catch and it's a quick tap and everything like that.

I don't think I realized how wide-ass open all these guys were until we saw this quad box.

I was broached with the subject.

Hey, we want to do a quad box for everything DB.

I go, what do you want to do?

And then he put the pictures up, and it's like, holy fuck.

That's bad.

That's four different plays.

That is because you see one blown assignment.

You'll see a MAP.

Whatever that happens.

Four plays, it's happening.

Is this on purpose?

Like, what the hell is going on?

I mean, questions need to be asked, but you rarely, the one we won't go over, DJ Moore.

They're wild.

I mean, look at him.

Bottom right, what quadrant is that?

Is that a quadrant?

That's quad four.

I'll say quad four right there, wide open in the middle end zone.

Once again, no one near him.

And then up top right, Trevon Diggs tried to do a quick jam, fell, stumped, yep, fell, stumbled, and Roman Dunza right up the the field but once again the quarterbacks they got to hit him they got to find the mistakes and they got to hit him so credit to him uh for hitting them uh and to stay with the theme two minute right here tieball game divisional matchup two minute drive trevor lawrence uh brian thomas jr he was on good d a couple weeks ago and now up top right here these two guys circled paul so whenever you're they're running the combo coverage here and i'm gonna assume this Whenever you're running the combo coverage, a big key running combo coverage with a corner safety, we got to be on the same level.

Why?

Because we want to see the same pitcher as the corner, as the wide receivers release upfill.

If I'm at five and you're at eight, we're going to see it and feel the speed differently.

And then you have to have rules built into a combo coverage.

One of the rules we used to always have, I was usually on the inside as a nickel or either a safety.

If anybody hesitates as the inside defender, if they come off slowly, I'm going to take that guy.

I'm going to grab it just to clear it up because offenses do that intentionally to create confusion.

So if you have that rule built in, that kind of will eliminate that confusion.

So this is CJ GJ and Kamari Lasser up there.

So to me, if you run it back to the very beginning and hit play again, it looks like to me, number two hesitates.

Like he is not a full speed release.

So he kind of hesitates them.

So I would grab that.

That's what CJ GJ did.

But the communication is key.

We got to be on the same page.

I can't be right and you be wrong or vice versa.

So Kamari, I think he expects.

to grab that out route and if it plays out perfectly if you if you saw five seconds ahead of time it will play out perfectly into a combine.

I'll take the inside route, you take the outside route.

Because of that hesitation, it fucks up who takes who.

And then you got Brian Thomas Jr.

making a huge play in a two-minute drive.

He needed it for the confidence.

Trevor Lawrence needs it, and obviously the Jaguars need it, and it helped them win this game.

But big-time miscommunication, I think, is not just something that happens on Sunday.

This is walkthroughs.

This is practice.

This is meetings.

Because a lot of every week, you're going to get stacks, bunches, and motions.

And especially when you put it on film like this, you're going to have to deal with it week in and week out.

And fourth quarter, two minutes, Trevor Lawrence throws the seat.

Just all the questions that were at, AQ, shots for you.

Obviously, the Houston Texans have a lot of questions right now.

CJ GJ no longer with the team.

Yeah, and who knows

what all went into it.

And then right here at the end of the play,

oh, they didn't show it.

But at the end of the play,

Kamari Lassiter kind of goes and looks back immediately as soon as she pushes him out of bounce.

And it was like, it's not on the replay, but he gives him one of these, like looking at, obviously the safety, like, hey, what the hell is going on?

Now, we, you know, in the DB room, that might have been a fine because hey, you don't put each other on blast, but you're in a tough spot because everybody that's watching, Kamari Lassiter, man, you can't keep up with the guys right from cover him, cover the dude.

So it's a tough spot to be in, but communication leading up to these plays, you never know when they're going to show up.

Stacks, bunches.

Great release, but you mentioned that like that delay release when they stack behind each other.

That makes it so tough when you're in that combo coverage.

You're right.

Like you you see cj

cj gj he knows he's jumping down trying to yep trying to clamp that that underneath guy but yeah look how he hesitated oh boom i'll take you out of here yeah man that's good play design yeah because

they just come out and run those routes same speed it'll fit perfectly in theory we both have leverage i take the out you take the in but um when they come out and run it with that little sauce a little hesitation on it fucks everything up hey that's good shit everything day big good deep bad day

good in the trenches oh yeah

A.J.

Hawker, great work today, bud.

Congrats on the nomination for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

That is cool, dude.

It is cool.

Thank you.

As a three-time nominee myself, it is a cool thing.

But also, let's not let it affect our lives.

That's how you feel, too.

Yeah.

Yeah, of course.

Yeah, it's not affecting it.

Yeah, we're good.

But boy, if you get in, that'd be so cool.

How can it not affect your life?

Yeah, you're right, especially if you're A.J.

Hawk.

For the first time, really, ever, getting the recognition and the nod of like, yeah, you done all-time leading tackler for one of the oldest franchises in all sports.

Put him in a fucking ring of honor.

No, well,

Green Bay, that's where it starts.

He's all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers.

AJ knows there's not a whole lot of numbers retired for the Packers.

Well, and Curly isn't even retired anymore.

Yeah, exactly.

Exactly.

I don't know what you got to do.

I don't know if you're going to be able to do more than Curly did for the Green Bay Packers.

Tone, anything we didn't hit today that we need to chit-chat about on our way out?

No, I think we're all good.

All right, why don't you come out here?

Why don't you come out here?

Ladies and gentlemen, we are incredibly lucky to be able to do this.

We have a conversation with Cam Bynum.

We're about to run that we had yesterday.

He is awesome.

He is incredible.

And we're incredibly lucky that he's in our city and that the Indianapolis Colts are good again.

Hell yeah.

Feels like that is real.

Hey, Q, we appreciate you.

Appreciate you, guys.

Great work this week.

You too, brother.

All right, boys.

Be a friend, tell a friend something nice.

It might change your life.

We're in this thing together.

See you all tomorrow.

Team on me.

Team on three.

One, two, three.

Goodbye.

Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is

a man that has brought so much positive energy seemingly everywhere he has gone.

Whether that's Cow out there in Berkeley, which don't love what happened to Song Politelli this past Saturday, but I do love what they're doing out there.

Then to the Minnesota Vikings, where he and his crew on defense had the most legendary celebrations the NFL has ever seen.

And they weren't distasteful or disrespectful.

They were just well thought out and well executed.

And there was a juice to that team that seemed very special.

So much so that Chris Ballard said, hey, we need some of that.

And thank God we did.

Ladies and gentlemen, a man who leads the NFL in interceptions.

I think he's top five in past breakups.

And he has the greatest celebrations in the history of sports.

Ladies and gentlemen, from the Indianapolis Colts, Cambodia.

Appreciate y'all having me.

Glad to be here.

Appreciate y'all having me in Indy, first of all.

Yeah, it's been a fun few weeks.

First three games.

3-0 here in Indy.

You have no idea how fun these are.

No, I bet.

I've been having, especially for us to start the season hot like we did.

I'm like, this is the best possible scenario coming to a different city.

And I could tell the energy is just rising here.

I appreciate the fact that there was an obvious omission of things to our roster.

In this offseason, it was all kind of taken care of.

We needed juice.

For sure.

Okay.

100%.

Bring in the juice guy.

And the juice is awesome.

We're talking every single time.

I'm talking.

My shoulders are so

hitting.

We're turning up the crack.

Yeah, we got boulder shoulders at all times, let alone everything else that I assume is infectious throughout the rest of the locker room.

Quarterback, obviously, we need somebody that's able to be consistent and also operate the offense and also has played ball before and seen it because this is a veteran team.

Does it feel like that in the locker room?

Yeah, it feels like there's a bunch of

guys that have played a lot of football, but also still young as far as not a bunch of guys taking vet days, not a bunch of

old guys that are like almost borderline out of their game.

It's like kind of like a veteran prime right now for a lot of our guys.

And just being surrounded by so many vets is cool because I feel like a vet, but I'm only in year five.

I'm around guys like Kenny Moore, Buckner, Grove, all these guys that are year eight, nine, ten.

And it's just cool being around that because it's pushing me to a different level of play.

And I'm over here trying to be the best player on defense surrounded by these guys and everybody's trying to be the best player in their respective roles.

So it's just making a collective energy of we're all trying to be the best and win.

Bringing in Lou Anarumo is the DC was a huge deal this offseason.

We're all very excited.

We know Paison pretty well.

And we've had a chance to catch up with him whenever he was with Cincinnati.

Obviously with the way it ended there, it felt like what is Lou Annarumo going to do next?

Our team has always had a lot of talent.

So we actually go to the games.

So a lot of people don't.

We go to all the Colts games, home games.

We're there.

I'm there where you see it.

And well, not all of them.

I guess last game didn't go last year.

Well, yeah, but all of them had pretty much

been to every game I've been there.

I'll tell you what, Cam,

I'm the number one bottom fan.

What you have brought to the team is what I think the team needed when it comes to leader.

Everything else, we'll get into it.

But Lou Ann Arumo coming to

the defense and then the signings that we've made.

What have you felt with the team?

Because we've always had talent, and that's the thing that was kind of missing with the rest of national media.

Because we saw the team and because we're here, we knew there was a lot of talent, a lot of money on that team, too.

A lot of guys have been through their first contract, into their second contract on the Colts.

Exactly.

And for one reason or another, we just haven't had massive success.

When you get here, what's Lou Ann Arumo like?

And then did you, were you surprised by how much talent was on the roster, especially because the Colts very rarely get talked about in that particular fashion?

Yeah, I was surprised with the amount of talent that we had just because it's one of those teams that I didn't pay much attention to.

I've played the Colts, what, twice in my career when I was with Minnesota.

Oh, you know what?

I want to talk about those games because I'm on the good side of it now here in Indies.

Yes, you are.

What happened?

It was historic.

I agree.

We'll let Twitter come and bring that back up because I know they will.

Oh, 33-0.

You were calling a game and you realized the game was over.

We beat the shit out of the bike.

Yeah, that's what it was.

Jeff Sarah's the greatest coach of all time.

Oh, yeah.

Orange slices that happen.

First half.

But yeah, that's the.

First half.

I'm still throwing my shots.

I'm still a competitor.

So what did you guys say at halftime there, though?

Just so.

Pat Pete.

So when you talk about juice, like me being the juice guy here, Pat Pete was our juice guy that year.

So he was in the locker and we're down 33-0.

He said, all we need is five stops, guys.

And everybody's like,

low-key.

He said, all we need is five stops.

So we, one at a time, off and scored.

We're like, all right, that's one stop.

So he's counting them down on the sideline.

Then what do you know?

It's tied up.

And we're like, oh, wow, this might actually work out.

Yeah, it might.

Yeah, it might.

Now that you're on the other side of it, obviously, we're lucky to have you over here.

And Pat P, fucking relax.

Okay, we need you to relax.

Great leader.

One of the best football players of all time.

I like Pat P and that whole thing.

But whenever you talk about, you're an NFC, obviously.

We're an AFC team.

And we're an AFC team that hasn't made the playoffs in a while.

So I understand whenever you say don't really get a chance to pay attention to them enough but when you get in the locker room what do you realize about the locker room and then also lou and arumo yeah i think um just what we realize in the locker room is that we're a solid team i think it didn't come by surprise with anybody um the belief i think and that's another thing that lou brought and especially from from management bringing these guys in bringing me in bringing mooney ward um and just putting this team together that they assembled this year i feel like they believe that we can do something and that started in the offseason just by seeing them making the moves and free agency that I heard wasn't normal for them to make in the past, having signings, big signings like they did with me, with Mooney, on defense specifically.

So having to really go through that knowing that the coaches and the staff is on board with making a change, then you get a defensive coach like Lou that's aggressive.

He's holding everybody accountable.

He's, you know, he's yelling at all of us as a vet, the guys that got paid, he's holding us accountable.

Rookies, he's still going to yell at a rookie equally as much as he'll yell at Buck, at Grove, all the guys that have been here forever.

So I think that's really the standard that we have, that no matter who you are, you're going to be held accountable, but it's going to be all for the betterment of the team.

So I think that it really created an energy of, okay, our expectation is to win.

And that's really, it started in offseason by picking us up and really making moves in free agency.

Oh, I love hearing everything about that.

That sounds like a winning football team.

There's a lot of shit coming out of Indianapolis the last few years that did not sound like a winning football team.

I'm happy they addressed it.

And the big three, their first season, D-Butt.

I love it.

Casey, Kalen, Carly is the ownership.

We got some major players all of a sudden.

Go ahead, D-Butt.

Absolutely.

You talk about a winning football team.

You need a quarterback.

And Dan Jones came in.

AR was a quarterback battle.

It's something you never really want to be a part of when you're on a team.

But Dan Jones, you know, won the job, and we see why.

You know, coming from week one all the way to week three, he's been on fire.

The offense has been on fire.

What did you see from him throughout the offseason and then throughout training camp?

And then obviously through these these four weeks, not only on the field, but off the field, kind of in the locker room?

Yeah, so what I've seen from him, well, we got history.

He knocked us out the playoffs in 2022.

With the children.

Yeah, let me get back.

So then he knocked me out the playoffs then.

Then last season, he was with the Vikings on the P squad for the second half of the season.

So I just saw the way that he was working.

Even when he was on practice squad, he was taking those scout team reps going against our starting defense.

And he was was trying to dice us up and he was going going out there treating it as if it's a game really like having intentful practices knowing that okay i'm i'm using this time to get better because next season when i get my shot he's going to take it and run with it so when he got to indy it was really the same mindset he was locked in extra work um just seeing him long hours there just always put the work in so now when we went through training camp it wasn't a surprise that he was playing well and just being consistent and just playing good football ended up winning the spot and for me I never had a doubt in my mind that he would, you know, turn things around.

He caught so much, you know,

negativity from the world and the football world on the media.

But it's like,

you see that you get in a place where they believe in you and they have a collective belief and support a quarterback.

You see what he's doing now.

Right now, he's looking like the best in the league, and he's leading us the 3-0 offense, putting up 42 points the last game, 29 points a week before, 33 week one.

So it's like,

even if we're having bad games on defense, our offense would still carry us to a win.

So it's like, at the end of the day, he's getting the job done and doing it well and protecting the ball first and foremost.

Yeah, you're not having bad days on defense, which is great.

You're talking about protecting the ball.

Conte, who you obviously know now, this guy's a legend.

You need to know that Matt Conte's a legend.

He's a Penn Stater too.

Huge weekend up there.

Oh, yeah.

Happy for Ellie.

The Colts have committed zero turnovers this season, making the first time in franchise history the team hasn't turned the ball over through the first three weeks of the season.

For the defense, obviously, put the fire out or quick change or anything like that is always talked about.

Them not turning the ball over.

Can you talk about all three phases coming together, including the punter who

punted one time in three games?

That's wild.

Rick Burkhart has great though.

It was a good punt.

Do you know how bad I wanted us to go for it on fourth down, regardless of anything?

I just wanted to keep his streak going of not playing.

So I was like, can we just go for it?

I don't care if it's fourth and 20.

Just go for it.

So my only question is this.

Complimentary football hits immediately with a lot of new pieces.

Everybody's flying around.

Brand new defense coordinator, defense plays spectacular.

Brand new quarterback, offense playing spectacular.

Special teams, kickers making kicks.

Shout out to Spencer Schrader.

Can't be using leverage on guys.

No, of course not.

You know the rules.

Yeah, learn

that.

That is illegal.

But that happening this quickly into the brand new era of this team, I guess the question is, is there still like long season?

What is the thought to kind of carry that and to continue to build?

I assume you all think that you're nowhere near where you can be because of how fresh everything is.

Is that how I should be viewing it as well as a Colts fan?

Yeah, I think we haven't played our best ball yet, especially, I'm speaking for me as a defensive player, there's a lot of stuff that we left on the field.

Even with these games, we've had turnovers, pick six,

you know, strip sacks, everything we've had, but we feel like we haven't played our best ball, even on offense, getting down to the red zone and just kicking field goals, special teams giving up.

you know, an extra 10 yards on a return.

So little small things that we're still like, guys, we got to get better on.

But we like where we're at.

And I think we set the foundation of what the year is going to be like first game interception first series last game pick six first series offense scoring the amount of points that they're scoring every single half i think the foundation the expectation is set so the rest of the season it's like if we if we're anything less than what we've been it'll be a letdown for us so i think that's the best

yeah big time we're expecting pick six

17 and like that's the energy we went to the the luncheon the team luncheon before season before right after training camp and we're up there talking, you know, the leaders are giving their little speeches and I'm up there talking.

People probably looked at me crazy, but I said, I'm expecting a Super Bowl out of us.

And it probably sounds crazy from a new guy like me coming to, you know, talk to the whole, all the donors and all the people sponsoring the team and the whole team, the whole staff, ownership.

And I went on stage and was like, I expect a Super Bowl.

That's the expectation to win every game.

If we fall short anywhere, oh, well, but my expectation is a Super Bowl.

Hell yeah.

That's how we work.

I think every team thinks that, right?

Every team's supposed to think that.

But I think also whenever you see what you guys were building at the time at training, not a lot of talk about training camp other than Anthony Richardson and Danny Dives.

Right.

The rest of the team wasn't even chatted about.

Had no idea that Quentin Nelson became a fucking vocal leader.

Yeah.

No, he's different.

He is.

He's different.

He's jumping around.

He's adults.

He's celebrating.

If a running back scores, he sprints to the end zone to go celebrate with them.

He's over here high five in the defense.

Good way to run to the ball.

I'm like, you're on the other side.

You should not be happy about that.

But it's just a leadership thing that he's, he's becoming

your first year.

I didn't know that.

I didn't know that.

I'm thinking this is him.

Ryan Kelly was a center leader.

Coach Smith in Minnesota.

Yeah,

two of our linemen from the Colts.

Yeah, to pay for you,

to pay for you.

We had to do that whole thing.

Shout out to them.

Yeah, shout out to them.

Certainly shout out to them for what they did for the Colts.

But Ryan Kelly had been here a long time.

And he's the center.

So the center normally the natural leader of the offensive line and also been there a long time.

So I think maybe Quentin wasn't like empowered to be like a vocal leader, but I think he saw the way everything was going.

And I love what I'm seeing from the mic'd up shit out of him.

I don't know what the rest of the building looks like.

How many of those guys are there on the team?

A lot of people that understand the sense of urgency, you think?

I think there's a lot, especially like we said,

there's so many vets on the team.

So everybody's comfortable.

talking, but nobody talks too much to where it's like, okay, you're doing too much.

You're trying too hard to be a leader.

Everybody has their natural leadership role.

For me, it's the lead by example, lead with energy.

For Isaiah Franklin, it's the I'm turnt up, I'm gonna run through your face type of leadership.

Kenny, you know what you're gonna get.

He has his finesse and his swag, and he's still gonna be like a leader.

So, like, just those three pieces on defense with Mooney just being locked in, knowing he's gonna lock things up on the outside.

Everybody has their certain type of leadership.

Then, on offense, obviously, quarterback Danny Dimes, he's a little more quiet, but you know, he's still making sure everything is operating well.

But, Q,

he's a vocal leader, he's running everything, he's that's awesome,

just everything.

So you get a little bit of everything from everybody to the point where everybody is locked in on their certain role where nobody's overstepping their boundaries of, okay, this guy needs to calm down.

He's trying too hard.

So it's a natural leadership in this locker room.

Anybody missing team meetings or treatments or anything like that?

No.

There you go.

Never.

That's huge.

That's an expectation just around the league.

Like, you don't do that.

I agree.

You're not late.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You will get fine one.

The money is one thing, but the embarrassment if you miss it and coach puts you on the spot, it's like nobody wants to be that guy that's late and has to talk in front of the team and give your excuse.

This offseason, the transition into like

elite kind of operating and elite leadership is wonderful.

I don't know how the hell it happened.

It might have just been you coming.

I hope I had a part of it.

You did, brother.

You did.

I hope so.

That's why any of those Cadillac escalades that you're going to be trying to triple down on, he's got, this thing is a spaceship.

It's gorgeous.

I don't know if it's bulletproof.

Fucking look like it.

It looks like it.

Don't try it.

Don't test it, though.

Yeah, please don't.

Please don't.

Connor has a question for you.

So, with the offseason, you know, bringing in players, it was also kind of like a, hey, Shane Steichen better figure this out when it comes to, you know, head coach, kind of like a hot seat prove it year, if you will.

We kind of called him shite-stike and we did not.

I called him we.

I mean, I may say it was.

We called him shite-steichen for a little.

It's much different now.

I mean, I think we could even say maybe like a sweet Steichen, maybe a Shine Steichen now because of how well he is.

But as a defensive guy, you've now played for two, you know, offensive guru coaches with KFZ and Steichen.

What are kind of the similarities between the two?

Because for us, we always thought Steichen was the guy, but

this is the first year you've really kind of seen it where the offense is perfect, no turnovers, you know, guys.

are running wide open.

What are the similarities between the two, you know, on game day and then also just in the building?

Because he is kind of that leader, that guy on offense, but as a defensive guy, I'm not sure if you guys interact as much.

Yeah, I think as a head coach, I think one thing Steichen does well is actually operating with the whole team.

He'll sit in on defensive meetings.

He'll sit in on special teams and obviously be with the offense because he's in charge of the offense.

But that's one thing that he does well is knowing all the players to where everybody can vouch for him and be like, okay,

I've had a conversation with him.

Coach knows who I am.

He talks to everybody pretty much exactly the same.

Then on top of that, on the football part, I think one thing, the big part of success is how a head coach operates with the quarterback, just the confidence that they can give a quarterback and really putting them in position to succeed with the plays they called.

you know just certain things little small things how you start the game let's not go for a shot first play let's get your rhythm and that's basic around the league but i see it in our offense how consistent our offense has been and it's been nothing flashy.

Everything's been just consistent.

And you see coaches putting everybody, every single player on that offense, especially the quarterback, in position to succeed.

So, and I think that's really what I've seen from coming from Minnesota, what he's been, what KO has been able to do with the quarterbacks there, and then coming here, seeing what Shane is doing.

It's like, okay, that's the blueprint.

When you really instill that belief in a quarterback that they can do something well and they can operate this offense where the quarterback knows, okay, I got this.

It's easy from there.

Shane talks shit to you guys during practice or no?

Any interaction?

He's fiery.

I'm not going to lie.

Especially during joint practice to the other team, he'll bring the huddle in and like look at all of us in the eyes.

He'll say some crazy stuff like, let's go.

We got to run through this team.

He's a competitor.

That's one thing I love about Shane.

Like he's an ultra competitor and he's exciting.

Like he gets turned up.

I'm not going to lie.

I like to hear that.

He's one of those guys.

He said shoot and daggum and stuff.

And you never really know.

Good shooters gracious to Pete.

Yeah, all that stuff.

You never really know what's in the soul.

But he was with Phil Rivers, remember?

That's your point.

And we remember Phil Rivers being one of the greatest shit talkers in the history of sports without ever swearing.

What was that?

98-yard touchdown to that D-Jack.

Jacksonville, yeah.

He got to help him up.

Yeah, yeah.

Yep.

That was Ngakwe, who played here for a little bit.

That's what I'm saying.

So if Shane Steichen's got that in him, I didn't know we had that on Saturday.

Shane's a dog.

I'm not going to lie.

There you go.

You have to come to the locker room one day.

I doubt it.

Shane's a dog.

They will not let you in there.

We got some trade pieces.

Both scoring touchdowns.

Or the two.

Ty has a question for you.

You mentioned, hey, the expectations, 17-0 and winning a Super Bowl.

And I know that this is your first year, so I don't know how much you got to meet Mr.

Ursay or what your relationship was like with him before he passed away.

But looking at it, it seems like almost, you know, like what's happened so far early here, like you guys are being lifted by like a higher power, or like there's something else going on there.

Like, the vibes are great, and I understand it's a week-to-week league, but like

early right now, as you look at it, does it feel like, you know, what this actually does feel a little bit more special maybe than like some of my other seasons in the league?

Because I don't know if you realize this, but like, if you guys do do that, if you win a Super Bowl, like there is a thousand percent going to be a movie made about this season.

Can't rest in peace to the exactly.

So maybe also start thinking about who you'd want to play you in that movie as well.

But does it feel like?

I might have to be in it myself.

Just filming an offseason.

You can definitely make that happen.

Good charisma, good match.

You can easily do that.

But yeah, I think really just the whole, you know, I was never able to meet him, but I feel like I've known him because I've obviously met all the daughters, Carly and all the sisters.

And you see how they operate things and how well they treat people and really just the whole franchise of how it's really a family-ran business.

And it was a surprise to me when I got here, like how much I felt like I was at home and being like with the family, and that's something that struck me as soon as I got there.

I was like, wow, it feels like I've been here for a while.

And really, that started with the ownership and how involved they are in a good way, never overstepping their boundaries, never doing too much, but being involved where you're like, okay, I can respect how much you actually care about this team.

And you're not just, you know, a rich person that buys a team and just, all right, y'all figure it out.

She's in there learning football, learning coverages, asking us questions, not because she's trying to be, you know, overstepping, like I said, but really genuine, genuinely curious of, okay, how does this football stuff work?

So when she's on the sidelines, she's locked in and really doing that.

Just like I said, just trying to learn just out of love for the team and love for the game.

And I see where it comes from, her dad, and all the stories that I hear, like how much he really loved on every single person and how, you know, all the stories you hear about he took care of every single person that needed something and more.

So I think this year, we're for sure, we're having that in the back of our mind.

Like we want to honor their family by playing hard and just doing things the right way, just playing ball, just practicing hard, and everything will fall in its place.

I know I'm going to say 17 and oh, but it's the NFL.

Like, you never know what can happen.

But we want to go out every single day and be okay with the work that we put in and take pride in every single thing that we put in and knowing that, okay, they're putting us in position to have everything that we need with good ownership, with, you know, taking care of everything so we can just go play ball at a high level.

And that's really our only goal is to honor them with the way we work.

Love to hear that.

Love everything you're saying.

And I think that's a good call about the family environment.

A lot of those people, not, and I thought it was a smart play by you not to try to name all three names because if you get one wrong, you're going to bad.

Carly, Kaylin, and Casey are the three daughters.

I know the names.

I know.

Yeah, of course, of course, of course.

I didn't want to stutter.

Yeah, yeah, smart.

And also, don't leave.

Yeah, don't leave someone out.

Yeah, you're early in the stint here.

You did the right play.

Earse.

Yeah, they don't.

The big three.

Big three.

Big three up there.

The big three, but they've been around it their whole life, obviously, just like Jim has.

But the people in in that building, a lot of them that are in very powerful positions, whether it's in business, marketing, or treatment, or equipment room, all that different place, they've been there since like 1987, whenever a team came here for fucking.

That's crazy.

Yeah, so you're talking about a lot of history, a lot of different eras of culture.

That says a lot.

Like the fact that people want to stay there for that long in a place where, you know, there's been ups and downs in the franchise.

Oh, yeah.

For them to stay steady and still love

the city.

Whoa.

There's been a lot of downs as of late.

I'm just going to say it.

I've been asking for myself.

He's the hater of the group.

No, no, no.

No, he's a patriot fan.

He's a patrons fan.

I'm a patrons fan, but also, I mean, I live in the city, okay, Kim?

I'm damn near paying for the place you're working.

So, I mean, just.

He's paying his taxes.

It's not like I'm just some guy, like, oh, and I don't like the Colts.

I'm donating to the damn teeth, okay?

Yeah, if I'm not the people who want to eat every day, baby.

Exactly.

I'll voice it.

Also, at every game.

Also, at every game.

And to that point, like, it's been, this has been the best environment the Hot has had in i mean shoot five since i've been here for since 2018 whatever uh do you feel that is it similar to minnesota because minnesota also crazy we yeah we love the skull we think that's one of the coolest things

first of all all the colds fans we have to come up with a chant to do in the stadium that's i'm gonna put that on you pat you gotta come up with something okay whether you get on the micro game we need we need something to turn up the whole stadium but no i feel like especially that that um denver game you know first game the fans are feeling us out okay what's the season gonna going to be like?

Okay, successful game.

But the second game, home game in a row, that's the first time I felt like, okay,

this is different here in Indianapolis.

And it's not, obviously, I knew there was good things about Lucas Oil, but obviously I played in Minnesota, so I knew that that's one of the best environments.

But it paralleled Minnesota playing that game, that Denver game, especially how the game ended.

It was one of those times where I'm like, all right, I actually have to speak up on defense, and I could barely hear myself talk to my teammates.

Okay, let's keep that going.

Yes, let's keep that going.

Fans, we have to keep showing up.

Players, we got to keep making plays.

Players, we got to keep winning.

We got to keep taking

everything.

We got to keep going to team meetings on time.

Yes.

We got to

do the process.

Let's do it all.

But I think what we saw week one when you guys came out as a team thought that was sick.

So cool.

I love that.

Thought you were maybe going to do that all year.

Thought maybe that was going to be the thing, but that was for the boss I respected.

So then you guys do the introduction for the second game.

I'm like, oh, I hope we're not

breaking the tradition

and then you guys crushed and it was like you're like at this point it doesn't matter what we do we can come out and play colts fans are waiting for this like the loudhouse and the loose host are waiting for this because you got to remember the run with payton and the boys that i was very lucky to be a part of then andrew luck yeah yeah yeah that run it was like expectations were like

super super bowl

and then we weren't making playoffs we haven't won afc south in what 11 years or something like that i think it's 11 or 12 years haven't won afc south and people talk about divisions and it's like all those things just started piling up, I think, on Colts fans.

So, whenever we start hearing why this shit's happening from behind the scenes, and I don't want to say I speak for everybody because there's certainly a lot of people on the internet who disagreed with me at the time, they don't know ball, but now it is like everything we had hoped for,

and you're a massive piece of that is kind of coming to fruition.

And just know this city, this state, and uh, everybody will be around you and rally around you and will enjoy the hell out of the run alongside of you.

So, if you want to go ahead and do more dances with blue, you fucking do it.

Yeah, I will.

You want to it's gonna get more, it's gonna get more extravagant, extravagant, However, you say that.

Extravagant.

Extravagant.

Yeah, yeah.

Put a K in there.

Yeah, certainly.

I was told potentially from source S, that that was not a planned out celebration out there.

I had that in the back of my mind.

Do a celebration with Blue, but we were supposed to do a group celebration there with

Z and Kenny.

But I saw Blue there, so I'm like, all right, the energy is up.

Blue's right here.

I'm doing the hip thrust.

And I got away with the fine because I don't know how I did not get fine.

Well, that's because Blue's throwing his shit

yeah blue's thrusting way harder than i was

he got it

find a mascot not me well blue's blue's certainly throwing that thing

and he will on force hey blue blue's one of the best mascots in all of sports best ever yeah he is and he he's hot on the football throw from the second level yeah i don't know how he's made it every single time i've seen him do it yes i'm like that's actually crazy well There's a game to it here because sometimes he'll make it too quick.

And people

like, everybody take a look at the window.

Blue is throwing from the sky, you know, and everybody as people are trying to figure out what's happening and he makes it on like the second throw, it's already over.

Nobody even knows what happened.

So, then, so there's a fine line there where he's got a lethal shooter a little bit, he's got a miss and understand it, but then he's also done it now.

Yeah,

so there's a little bit of that happening, but he's an incredible athlete.

This one, where you start bouncing around, I was hoping for the kip up at the end, like old buddy did in the original.

I, I,

I, I, I, see, my, my foot slipped because I wanted to be dramatic and go for like 20 more yards.

Just like

up the whole sideline in front of the dog.

But my foot slipped on the turf.

I was like, all right, I got a credit.

Let me high five, everybody.

Checking my shoulder raises in.

How many in the back of your mind at all times?

Celebrations?

I got three a week in case.

I mean, the one.

I need a solo because

in case a teammate that I plan a group celebration with doesn't make it to the end zone, I got to hit my solo.

Then I have got to have like a specific one with like me and Kenny or in Minnesota is me and Metellus.

Then I need a full team one.

So every week I'm going in there with three on my mind.

Chuck Pagano says have a plan.

Have a plan.

Have a plan because we expect to take the ball.

Bingo.

First and foremost, we're not dancing for no reason.

We're going to run a fake field goal.

We're supposed to, where I was going to score a touchdown.

And Chuck's big piece of advice was, have a plan when you get in that end zone.

Don't look like you're Nashville.

I was like, all right, all right.

Look like you've been there.

I was like, thank you.

That's actually a good call.

I should think ahead a little bit.

So I had had a magic trick I was going to do.

Anyways, I get tired.

Yeah, it was going to be a whole thing, 15 yards.

Vinote was going to have to kick a 45-yard extra point.

Maybe even a 50-yard extra point.

Oh, wow.

It's worth the moment.

It certainly is.

It doesn't matter.

Hey, you're worth every dollar that we've paid you to come here to Indianapolis already.

We appreciate you so much.

You're the man.

Good luck the rest of the season.

And thank you for coming to our city.

Thank you guys for having me.

Appreciate it.

Shout out to Indy for making me feel like at home.

You have a YouTube?

I saw a camera.

Yeah.

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Weekly vlogs of my game preparation and just just at home life.

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