PMS 2.0 1423 - FIRST 15: NFL Week 5 Recap

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Pat, Darius Butler, and the boys are joined by 17 year NFL veteran Ryan Fitzpatrick and Super Bowl Champion, 16 year NFL veteran, and now both pregame hosts for the NFL on Prime, Andrew Whitworth to break down the biggest storylines of week 5 of the NFL season in the FIRST 15.
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And I know you paid attention to what happened yesterday.

Ladies and gentlemen, it is time to hit the top five storylines coming out of week five Sunday.

The conversation regarding yesterday's day games is going to be, you never know what the fuck's going to happen.

It's not just any given Sunday.

Brian McCarthy, NFL PR, said it's any given fourth quarter.

Now, this one's driven by Ram.

Let's put the first 15 minutes on the clock.

Ladies and gentlemen, let's get started.

Number five, comeback.

Chaos.

We got some stats here from Hembo.

There have been 16 games this season season with a go-ahead score in the final minute of regulation.

The most through five weeks of a season since the 1970 merger.

Fitz, Harvard guy, how many years has it been since 1970?

55 years.

Wow.

That's a lot of time.

That's a lot of balls.

That's a lot of balls.

There have been 10 game-winning field goals with no time left in regulation.

The most in the first five weeks since the 1970 merger.

Hey, Fitz, Harvard guy, how many years is that?

I didn't see the stats.

Paramount.

Since 1970, since 1970.

55.

Damn!

Two or two.

We got comeback chaos, and yesterday certainly contributed to that.

Six of them happened across the board.

18-point deficit, 17-point deficit, 14-point deficit, 11, 10.

And then obviously, Minnesota kicked off the entire day over there in London Town with a magical comeback.

Any of these games, Fitz, in your eyes, really steal the show.

I saw a tweet that you put out and you said that the Cardinals just lost in the worst possible way of all time or something like that.

I mean, I'm an Arizona guy, so I've been a Cardinals fan for a while.

They're getting ready to go up 28 to 6.

And Di Mercado, we did it again.

We did the drop the ball at the one-yard line.

We need to flip it.

And it happened to Indy last week.

So you think that every team is showing the Indy clip and saying, we don't do this.

We run through the goal line.

He flips it.

Was it really a fumble?

Was it not?

I don't know, but I sure am glad they called it.

I sure am glad they called it.

It feels like it was potentially a touchdown because he's flipping that thing.

And if it's

in the fingertips, it doesn't matter.

It's still in his possession.

Is the tip of the ball breaking the line?

And why don't we have a camera down the line exactly?

On that note to what Fitz said, I think everybody around football and in football said, who cares?

Shouldn't even be that close.

If you're going to drop the ball before getting in the end zone, one week after A.D.

Mitchell did it, you don't deserve to score a touchdown right there.

Now, he obviously took his lickings.

Yeah.

Coach Gainen on the sideline certainly had his hat sideways.

He even hit him in the chest at one point.

It can't happen.

And then the football gods blessed the Titans with their first win.

Cam Ward's first win.

Callahan's first win.

I think we should be celebrating that team.

Absolutely.

Big-time drive by Cam Ward at the end of the game to get it done.

Threw an absolute dot to Calvin Ridley.

This play was unbelievable.

This is ridiculous.

Some shit you absolutely never know.

Just how you draw it up on the NFL football field.

But yeah, to see Cam Ward come down after last week, coming out what he said.

He's pissed off, pretty much, dropped a quarter of the season already.

And for him to throw this dot to his big-time receiver, and then put his team in a position to win the game.

Big-time moment for this team and for this young quarterback.

Good for football yesterday.

Come back.

Hey, good for the red zone channel.

We're all still watching.

Half my team.

Three of my teams are on that list.

Yeah, in a good way.

No.

Oh, no.

No.

Boom.

Charge.

Boom.

Bigger.

Boom.

Boom.

Just get

down out there.

But I will say, Scott Hanson did a great job on that thing.

And it was a good juggle because a lot of those games were absolute shite.

Obviously, you have 18-point comeback, 17-point comeback, 14-point comeback that late in the game.

You think to yourself, This late game is kind of shit here, just like we said it was.

Yeah, we thought this was a bad slate.

Turns out it was blowouts across the board, and then all of a sudden, we had magic there in the witch and the golden witch and hour out there.

And it's beautiful.

The NFL certainly needs that.

Let's go to number four headline out of the week:

Jets and Bengals

Wolf.

Complete ass football teams?

Former Jets, former bang.

So we'll go straight to the Amazon boys here.

I'm watching the same shit you are.

We'll start with you, Wick, the Bengals.

I mean, score says it's a little bit closer, okay, because Jamar Chase did his thing.

He walked in backwards, actually, at one point yesterday, scoring a touchdown.

He's still his thing.

Going into the season, though, we thought to ourselves, is that the right way to build a team and win a Super Bowl with the way they're spending the money?

Then the star quarterback gets hurt with the way you're building that team.

They've looked like ass.

Are they complete ass or just somewhat ass?

Wit, speaking for the Cincinnati Bengals team.

I'm going to go somewhat ass just because they don't have Joe Burrow.

That's fair.

But I will say this.

You could go watch the last three plays of the game against the Cleveland Browns in four-minute offense where they're trying to secure the game.

Those three snaps are maybe the worst three snaps I've ever seen of physical football from an offensive line of trying to win out a game.

The entire offensive line is moving backwards, those three snaps, and the running back's getting hit as he's taking handoffs.

That told me that if we don't have Joe Burrow and we got to rely on running the football, we got a lot of freaking issues.

And I think that's what you see, is this all on Jake Browning to do something?

And I don't think Jake Browning's built for that.

Ty Schmidt, Detroit Lions, worst team possible to have to play against in the situation that the Bengals were in, especially Gary Owen.

Yeah.

OG ruling the jungle.

We told him on Friday, hey, this is a bad one for you to be ruling the jungle, we thought.

Kind of expected outcome here with the Lions thrashing the Bengals.

Yeah, without a doubt, I think you actually have to give the Lions credit because if they would have wanted to, they could have won 50-0, you know, 65-0, could have beat them by 100.

It's just tough.

I mean, we talked about this last week.

This should serve as the, you know, the final warning.

Get the Bengals off Thanksgiving.

We can't do that.

We need them off Thanksgiving.

We can't do it.

Remind them.

Remind them.

Is that you guys?

Yeah.

Can't do it.

Yeah.

Is that you guys?

No.

No.

Not us.

Okay, I'll be there.

Run up the ladder.

We need you to do it.

Get them off Thanksgiving.

If it was, then we would pass this crop on to you to bear, okay?

Talking about the Cerro.

Three games without Joe Burrow.

The Bengals have now been outscored 104 to 16.

What do we do?

They started having more than at the end of that game.

I mean, there was a lot of piling on this particular Bengals team.

And we'd

like to let the Huday nation know that, like, you guys are okay, man.

You guys spent the money in the right spots.

That's right.

These are things you can recover from.

What are you laughing?

These guys.

What are you talking about, dude?

You know, I would like to see them spend it in the offensive line room.

That's where I think they should spend a little more money.

Hey, they have tried, though.

We had a graphic last week about them drafting and spending money, and it just for some reason.

They've been terrible at it.

that's the problem.

So that is the thing.

You get the wrong guys, wrong group.

What is it?

Since 2011, that they've drafted an offensive lineman and he's signed a second contract.

I want you to think about that.

14 years since they've drafted an O-lineman, and he's actually signed a second contract.

Is it scheme building evaluation?

I think it's evaluation.

If you look at it, I'm going to throw myself in the mix.

2011, since they drafted a guy and he re-signed a contract, and they've let Kevin Zeitler and myself walk in free agency.

So if you can't draft an offensive lineman, and then you've let guys leave who continue to go elsewhere and win, you clearly have an evaluation problem of the priority of the position you struck a nerve right there

i mean i'm just saying hey journalism good journalism that's real journalism

thank i'm excited to do that and then let's go to the other team that people were saying oh no that's the whole caboose brother that's the whole yeah the whole thing obviously the dallas cowboys have a big time day and uh we're certainly happy for dak without a lot of guys playing which d-butt's going to hit here in a few moments i think having a huge win but on the flip side uh i the tweet was floating around yesterday and the stat stat was floating around because obviously it's a big one this Jets team under Aaron Glenn has no turnovers so so he's like defensive matchmall we got no we got no turnovers here we got dogs all across the board on the defensive side and then obviously offensively I think it was very impressive what Justin Fields was able to do with that football off that guy's face yeah and then hitting that sky cam we watched that a lot this morning we'll certainly break into that a little bit what a throw but let's talk about the Detroit Lions with MCDC.

What were you guys that first year, Foxy?

Started out 0-10.

0-10.

They're going to get a big time win.

Okay, so like instituting that particular culture obviously took a little bit of time.

I think there was even conversations about this guy's lost locker room.

This guy's not going to be able to do it.

And then obviously they find their stride and they go.

With the New York Jets, the market, everything like that, is it going to be possible for Aaron Glenn to have the patience or for people to hold on for them to develop the culture?

Or what are you seeing from them?

Yeah, it's a tough place to play.

It's a tough place to not win in.

They're the only team that hasn't won in the NFL this year.

But I think there is some patience and some grace for him this year.

They've seen this as a rebuild.

I mean, if you go back to to the first game, they took the Steelers down to the wire.

Then we've got him doing this deal against the Bucs.

I mean, how quickly we forget, with under two minutes left, they were beating the Tampa Bay Buccaneers two weeks ago.

So I think this team, they're going to challenge teams this year.

Obviously, they're not going to go to the playoffs, but this is a huge culture-setting year for Aaron Glenn, and he's got to get it going.

So, Connor, actually, big believer.

And I don't know if he's doing it at the reverse tanks, but you actually are a believer, even after what we saw yesterday.

Yeah, four-shoot a believer, like, especially when you look at the players from the Lions that got much, much better in his defense.

Like, I just don't understand why, like, what's going on with Sauce Gardner?

Like, that's my question to D-Butt.

Sauce Gardner's rookie year is all pro, all-world, unbelievable.

And it's just been like this weird kind of, I'm not going to say falloff because he's still a great player, but when, what is it, DJ Reeder?

DJ Reed.

Yep.

He goes to Detroit in the offseason.

And now, you know, Sauce Gardner doesn't have a counterpart on the other side that can cover a guy, you know, without question.

And he's kind of getting abused in five straight games.

The fact that they have no turnover is like, dude, at least grab an interception.

And I'm not saying it's easy.

That's me simplifying.

That's why you're as a fat idiot, yes.

But I'm saying, like, hey, dude, like, somebody's got to make a play, right?

You're the one that's getting paid $120 million.

It's got to be you.

Yeah, for sure.

And that's never really been his game since coming into the NFL.

He's just kind of been one of those lockdown corners, a bunch of back downs.

That's one of the things you look at and start, hey, I want some more ball production.

But through five games, I mean, you would think something would accidentally happen.

Yes, a a ball, you're a ballot, line of scrimmage, a tip, an overthrow, something at this point.

So it's just tough.

Some of it's some self-inflicted negatives, as Chuck Pagano will call the sins.

A lot of penalties, a lot of sloppy football.

Justin Phillips kind of looked good, which is weird.

They got a lot of things to figure it out.

I just hope they do have some patience to give Aaron Glenn that time because we know we are not in the environment where you're giving coaches a long leash at this point.

Well, and the other thing, too, is like we talk about how many offensive linemen went in the first round this year.

Will Campbell, as a Patriots fan, I'll say, you know, he's

a bingo, bingo.

Oh, yeah, but he's got

from Monroe, Louisiana, baby.

From Monroe, Louisiana, 318.

Is that where you're from as well?

We are.

So you guys have small arms there?

What is the thing?

There's no small arms here.

No, we have different problems.

Different problems.

But he's a hell of a football player, and he's going to be...

I called him

Taylor LaWan of Rabel in Tennessee.

That was his tone setter.

That's who Will Campbell's going to be for this team.

Why'd they make such a big deal out of the arm length?

Is that a thing?

I think it is a thing in the sense of you need, I always call it your fallback.

When you think of playing DB, you play offensive tackle, what is it that

I'm going to have moments where I get out of control or I got to be able to survive a down?

What is it that I fall back on?

Is it my arm length?

Is it have my feet?

Do I have great feet?

Do I have a really great anchor?

What are those things?

So one of those for an offensive lineman, you got to think about pushing guys around the edge, is your ability to extend and get a guy around the depth of the quarterback.

So length goes into that a bunch.

And so that would really what that long arms come from.

And then you get long arm bull rushes, stuff like that.

You need length.

And so I think for Will, he has tremendous feet, a great anchor, and he's a powerful kid he can make up for not having the longer arm got it so it's like a long snapper in my world you either got to be like perfect snapper and blocker or you got to be a really good cover guy there you go he's got to be one of these

i need a trait what's my trait it's the aussie ah

absolutely but his snaps i think he would even say like compared to other guys he's a tackler bingo he is a coverage guy he's a weapon going down the field for me okay i'm trying to get hang time i would like my snapper to be like a just jugs machine bro brett basket every every time.

And you don't even need to cover.

But on that note, that's literally how they're judged.

You're saying offensive lineman, same exact thing.

Back to your point, though, there was a lot of people that were like, Will's not the guy.

Yeah, not the guy.

Because of literally an inch.

I think that what people were saying.

But I think most people with a brain knew that wasn't a real thing.

And to your point,

I appreciate it.

He's the tailor of the wand of this variable team.

When it comes to comparisons, we don't really do like any Titans players in New England because they've sucked forever.

He's more of like a wit of New England than LSU.

Okay.

He got real funny.

you ever seen fits in a tennessee titans jerry uh we'll talk about it later uh but no uh just to wrap up the just to wrap the jets real quick armin membo like it's not as if they drafted bad players like armin membu has been arguably the best rookie uh you know offensive lineman so i don't know what the hell is going on their defense shouldn't be this shitty though the other part tough part about the jets is they have to face drake may twice a year that's a good point that's a good point i i agree with you fits and if we want to really go through it i wanted to thank you because i personally believe the only reason drake may is this good is because he spent, you know, a month or two with Josh Allen over the summer.

And like you can say, like Vrabel and stuff.

And I definitely want to talk about Vrabel, but like I don't think it's that simple as McDaniel comes in and McDaniels comes in and does well.

Like I think it's kind of Josh Allen is the one who birthed this beast, if you will, in New England.

And I think you're the one that kind of helped birth that beast.

You're the grand guy.

Hey, look, that's just what I think.

Hey,

he's the grandfather.

Exactly.

He's the fodder's fodder.

Yeah, the fodder's fodder.

Yeah, Mays fodder's Josh Allen, and Mays fodder's fodder's right for catching.

That's great news.

Look what you're doing.

He's a great player.

Great player.

Hey, we'll get to Drake Mays.

Certainly, we have to.

But we're saying Jets and Bengals kind of complete ass.

Some would say that.

That's what we're saying?

I think Jets are less ass.

Current ass.

Than the Bengals.

Really?

Yes.

I like everything that just happened right there.

Let's go to number three, a team that is not ass at all.

The last.

Play

boys.

These guys won their last two games, literally won the last play.

They have four wins on the season, five weeks, all of them comebacks.

This team is always in it.

Baker Mayfield's mentality has seemingly oozed and radiated through the entire locker room.

Now, granted, they've already had a good, you know, pillar of Levante David getting a big-time pick.

Wow.

Shout out to him because first week he dropped a pick that Vita Veya would have caught right behind him.

Vita Veya has been burying him ever since then.

We learned that on our show when Coach BA actually talked shit to Levante David as well for dropping a pick in week one.

Instead, he makes a diving play, unbelievable catch here out of nowhere.

How you doing?

Keep it moving.

And it's not just Baker.

Obviously, this defense gave up some points to Sam Darnold.

Yesterday, this game was bang.

Oh, yeah.

Bang.

Bang.

Bang.

Bang.

Bang.

But was there any of us that didn't think Baker was going to end up?

If this was a shootout, Baker Mayfield's going to be the one that's going to come away.

And they certainly did debut.

I love this Buccaneers jib, if you will.

For sure.

It seemed like watching this game, it was whoever had the ball last was going to end up winning.

And you create that big turn.

That was probably the only bad play Sam Darnold had.

Both of these guys were just spinning it.

But Baker's game, probably the best game I've seen from a quarterback in a long time.

Like he was, you can just tell he was just locked in.

Emeki Buka dominant.

He continued his dominant year.

Jackson Smith and Jigbo on the other side.

Both of those Ohio State boys showed off.

But this game was phenomenal from me before it even started.

Honestly, these jerseys.

This might be the all-time best jersey matchup with both these teams celebrating 50 years.

But yeah, Baker's been dialed in, especially in the biggest moments when his teams are needing the most.

Yeah, and

for me, luckily when I played in Tampa, we didn't do the all-whites like that.

That have been tough in the all-whites.

But Bucky Irving's out, right?

Mike Evans is out.

And I think the thing that's not being talked about enough, Joshua Grizzard's the OC, first-time OC, first-time play caller in the NFL.

What Baker's doing with this offense right now and helping Josh also has been fantastic.

Yeah, it's crazy because that was the story like two weeks ago.

Remember, two weeks or three weeks ago, it was like, he's got no tackles.

This guy's got nobody, brand new OC, and they're just winning.

Now we've just gotten used to it.

We're like, yeah, week five.

This is what the Bucs do, dude.

dude.

It's like, it's still so early in the year.

How much better can they get with?

They can still get a better.

They can get a lot better.

I mean, look at their starting center.

Graham Barton's been playing tackle.

Tristan Wurfs just got back a week ago.

I mean, you look at it.

They've been doing this without their group, and now they're starting to get healthier up front.

And Tristan Wurfs and that crew is dominant.

So I think they're only going to get more physical and better up front.

And I think that means this team's going to be even better.

Well, the football gods continue to bless him.

You win in games like this.

Football gods on your side.

Is this team at Destiny Field down there in Tampa Bay?

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Is this the Cleveland Browns kicked this guy out of town?

He went and played on a a scout team punt team in Carolina.

They kicked him out of town.

Look at how they are.

He goes cross country, obviously, with Los Angeles Rams, puts on a show, becomes the guy in Tampa Bay after Tom Brady.

Maybe we deserve to give this guy a little bit of love.

Is that what's happening right now?

The booted out of the Browns building team of destiny, Baker, Mayfield, and the Buccaneers.

I mean, I think you could certainly make that case because everyone who wants to poke holes in the Bucs, they just say, well, this isn't sustainable.

You can't do this over the course of the season.

Four out of five weeks is a pretty good sample size.

And I feel like anytime after the year when we look at this kind of like a team, always one year, like they'll be eight and one in one score games.

And then the next year, you know, it kind of water finds levels.

Exactly.

So, like, as of right now, it's hard to argue, like, that's just who they're going to be this year.

They're going to perform very well in one-score games.

And does that give them enough momentum to eventually, you know, go on a Super Bowl run?

We'll see.

Number two storyline: congratulations to 1972 Dolphins.

Hell yeah, Coach.

Yeah.

There baby goats.

I'll tell you what, McDaniel.

Oh, my gosh, that walk.

How was that walk, Pat?

That was awesome.

Hold on, you got to kick that left shoe more.

Yeah,

left shoe.

He got his little, his little off-white little swagger.

He's just flopping around as he's walking.

So sad.

It's part of comeback chaos, obviously.

So sad.

Carolina Panthers is not supposed to win this.

So sad.

Hey, Xavier Lee get maybe a guy.

So sad.

Wow.

Look at this little tag on his left foot.

Man.

Sponged out.

Drag that thing home, man.

That sucks.

He knows.

We all know.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But hey, Vaughan Ron.

Rico Dabo goes for 200.

200?

Yeah.

He's crazy.

Yeah.

Hey.

Vaughn Ron.

Hey, it was a good run.

It was a fun run.

It was a good run.

Everything down here was fine.

And I think that's where he's.

Boy, what do you mean it's a good run?

You saw it.

Glasses off, little thing kicking.

He knew.

Yeah, he knows.

He knows.

That little tag flapping around was the last straw.

If Stephen Ross sees that, he's going to say, get this guy the fuck out of here.

He's done.

Right now.

How about I sent that video to you guys?

And I just said, the little tag.

Yeah.

It's the saddest part of the whole thing.

It's sad.

It's a good bumper.

Bopping around.

And I didn't notice it until halfway through.

It's here too, Bob.

Bob.

You know, because the way he walks, there's a lot of pizzazz for that tag to kind of just bop, bop, bop.

Man, like we said, though, we all said it in football.

If you're winning and all that happens, it's cool.

And they love it.

It's cool.

If you don't win, okay.

Well, let's talk about you down in the Miami Dolphins.

That place, whenever you were down there, there was a lot of allegations about what was going on there.

Do you think Miami Dolphins can win?

Okay, 1972 Dolphins obviously go undefeated.

We are all adult humans who have been in locker rooms.

And in Miami.

And to the city of Miami.

We've definitely been in Miami.

Is there enough?

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

That's exactly what I'm saying.

Do you think they can win in Miami?

Do you think you can win in in Miami?

That's a good one.

There's a lot going on.

That's a lot of people.

There's a lot going on in Miami.

And it was COVID.

One of the years was COVID year when I was there, so there wasn't a lot going on.

But there are a lot of distractions down there, and it is an issue.

I think so.

Like, Gumpy needs to celebrate these 1972 Dolphins because

I think even as the world continues to grow, it's only getting - because Miami's getting more and more popular to certain people.

Yeah, Larry Zonka ain't coming through that door.

It just ain't happening.

Duggo.

They need him.

Exactly.

Celebrate that thing.

And then the number one story in our first 15 that has now ran about 20 minutes or so, Colts are going to win the Super Bowl.

Hell yeah.

Hell yeah.

Come on now.

Now this says the Colts are going to the Super Bowl, and I appreciate that, but that's a little humility from the graphic maker.

The Colts are going to win the Super Bowl.

Okay.

Okay,

that is the fun.

After watching this team live with these eyes, boys.

Okay, these eyes right here watching this team live.

Last couple years, we've had okay teams.

Gardner Minshew almost took us to the playoffs, almost won the AFC South

in our stadium, literally right in front of us against the Houston Texans week 16 or whatever it was, a couple years ago.

We always believed Shane Steichen.

We always believed that there was a lot of talent on the team.

There's one position we just couldn't figure out.

I'm surprised you didn't play for us, too, to be honest.

I don't know how that didn't happen with the run that we were on.

Danny Dimes with us is awesome.

Jonathan Taylor, I think he only rushed for like 66 yards yesterday, three touchdowns.

He's the best version of himself for sure in this offense.

The offensive line, they're finally speaking the same language as quarterback.

Remember, there are some stories.

Fitz, Fitz, I'd like to ask you about this as well.

That's my dad that Pittman just tapped up

in front of this week.

Tim, obviously, in there.

Matt Ryan, whenever he got here, allegedly, him and the offensive line just couldn't, they weren't

saying the same.

They're speaking different.

That's a.

That's the whole thing.

It's hard.

That's why we had Matt Ryan come in because we thought he was like a super smart football guy.

This is what we need because we got enough talent everywhere.

We just need a quarterback.

And for some reason, they couldn't speak the same language.

Danny Dimes has come in here, mastered the offense, understands understands everything, puts him in the right position, and he's spinning it.

I mean, it is, when we need it, he's very rarely missing.

I think I saw him miss one time yesterday.

It was an overthrow out of bounds.

Every other ball that comes out of his hand is like catchable.

Tyler Warren might be the best football player, period.

Just go ahead and put that right there.

He's gigantic.

He's tough, and he's always open.

But our defense is legit as well.

I had a chance to chit-chat with Colts owner, one of the big three, Carly Ursane.

Nice.

How's she doing?

About her time on the sideline.

Okay, Jordan losing.

Okay, she came in to see Chuck Corgi.

It caught in a big race, which we will certainly cover here in a matter of moments.

As one of them, my dog, Chuck, was in a corgi race called Stumpy Stampede yesterday.

But Carly Ursay came in to see Chuck.

You know, she immediately goes, whoa, he's big.

And I go.

Easy.

He's got a big race coming up.

Yeah, we're just trying to get him to stamp it.

It's shocking, though.

We should lay that out.

It is shocking when you see a dog that fat with such small legs.

He was triple the size of every other competitor in the Stumpy Stampede.

But Carly, I said, okay, I have to ask you.

Me and Carly don't really, I have not really talked to Carly much.

I was on the way out while she was kind of in.

We're not the same age.

Kaylin and I, same age, so we kind of knew same people.

So I got a chance to chat with her.

Carly, I've never really talked to her.

I'm like, hey,

what have we got out of this?

Do you know the calls?

Like, are you at the point where you know the calls?

She's like, I kind of know what we're looking for.

She's just charting, though.

She's charting plays, basically.

Charting plays, charting plays, charting plays, just to see what's going on, trying to learn as much as possible.

She said some of the coaches have been a little bit against it because they think that she's like, they think I'm going to hold it against somewhere, like interject or something.

She's like, I'm just literally just charting plays there.

And I was like, tell me about the defense.

She goes, lose defense versus the last defense we had.

So many more words, options, choices, so many more things for our guys to do.

It's like there's a call and then there's like two adjustments on top of it.

She's like, that's the biggest takeaway for me is like lose defense versus the other defense.

It's like, there's a lot of options.

And then you give these guys more options.

They utilize them.

She's like been excited to kind of watch it kind of grow.

And then she told me exact words were, we think with the way Gino throws and where it's coming out from, we should be able to get a couple today is what Carly says.

Wow.

She knows ball.

She's dialed.

She knows it all.

She plays great shit.

So I said that to the entire suite.

I was like, Carly leaves.

And I was like, yo, Carly Ursa just said, the way Gino's throwing it right now, we think that we got the guys that are going to be able to get some hands on some balls.

And then we got some picks because we didn't get any last week or whatever.

She was like, so we need turnovers.

We need you turnovers.

So that first one happens.

It's a deflection pick.

I'm like, I look over and I'm like,

it's called this thing.

So it's like, everybody is all in, literally from the top all the way down to everybody is all in for the Colts right now.

And we've always had the players.

We've always had the building.

And now it feels like we finally got the quarterback fits.

You're a journeyman, kind of your thing.

We're seeing this resurgence of guys that kind of have to bounce around a little bit.

Danny Dimes is doing it to an entire city right now for us.

He's doing it for an entire city right now as we're kind of going.

Why does that happen?

Is it the experiences teacher stuff?

Is it just getting to the right system?

What are your thoughts on that?

Yeah, fit and timing are so big in this.

And I think even with Mac Jones right now in San Francisco, we had him the other night.

It's the same thing.

So this is very sustainable for Daniel Jones as well.

Steichen's a great play caller.

He showed it in Philly.

That's why he got the head job here.

And he has the weapons on the outside.

The thing that I love about him, he's got Pierce, who didn't play yesterday.

He's got Pittman.

He's got Tyler Warren, all these big dudes.

And you see every ball that comes out of his hand, it's drilling guys in the face mask, which is huge.

The thing I want to go back to, though, have you ever been on a headset?

It's nasty.

I mean, these coaches, I've done it once, and I said, I can't do that again.

The shit that they're spewing about the players, like,

I don't know what she's hearing, but I guess they've been winning, so it's all been good, but it can get really negative on that headset.

Yeah, she used to have a coach who would say all the time, he says, listen, guys, whatever you guys are saying down here about us, we're talking the same shit about you down here.

It's coming up, it's coming down don't worry about it but i think too your points about going to the super bowl who's the defensive coordinator lou and a rumo who beat the chiefs to go to the super bowl the cincinnati bengals defensive coordinator lou and a rumo tell me about so everything i was just saying there about carly was saying you were nodding your head yes obviously you had a lot of time you know lou pretty good ice yeah we've gotten to spend some time with him on thursday nights before games just being around him his energy his passion for the game and i think just really he he's one of these guys that he kind of has chess piece guys that he's like i need this player to be able to do these things for these specific calls that i want you look at some of these simulated late pressures he brings.

He has a guy type in mind that he needs.

And when he puts that together, you look at the investment they did in the secondary.

Now he knows, all right, these are the calls that I can call in these kinds of situations when I want to play chess with people.

And I think you look at it, he has.

He's been in that playoff run with the Bengals.

He's got that experience.

So that's the guy you want calling plays when it's playoff time, baby.

Tenny Moore's coming back.

So I mean, we're not even at full speed on the defense.

We got a real defense.

Oh, yeah.

We got like a real defense.

Grover Stewart and Buckner down there can fight anybody.

Leatsu Lato gets another pick.

Okay, they got him dropping out.

He's finally finding his.

his there was a guy

first time hero this guy.

Gots a quarterback.

Cross is blitzing and getting to the quarterback seemingly every other play.

Defense feels like it's potentially championship run.

And then the offense is matching it.

Oh, yeah.

It's a crazy time right now for the Colts.

Complimentary football.

Only thing I worry about is us losing our kicker.

We lost Spence.

We lost Spank.

Is it for the year?

Is he out for the year?

Has been that been confirmed?

Or the play didn't sound good?

It didn't look good.

I don't want to be the one.

Okay, well, we'll say it.

I'll say it.

No, I'll say it.

Because it's going to get out anyways.

I think it was multiple ligaments were torn.

Oh, I think.

That's up.

Yeah, from my understanding, just because

I, I apologize, uh, left middle of fourth quarter

to be traffic.

You're good.

Okay, on way out, uh, I get asked if I'll go say what's up to him.

Obviously, in the middle of a moment, he's an Indiana kid from Indiana.

So, like, I think he maybe knew of me or my existence.

Went in there and talked to him.

Spirits seems like he is obviously on the right track, but obviously he's going through a lot of shock there, too.

This kid has has been great for us.

He's already hit a game winner.

He's got a massive leg.

The one where he got hit, I mean, he is, especially after the years past, we've had a couple misses and some big moments.

Local kid is done.

He's 24, so we think he'll be.

He'll bounce back for sure.

But that's going to suck.

And I told him, like, I didn't want to be the bear of bad news.

I'm like, yo, what you're about to go through is about to suck.

Like, you need to know that.

But on the other side, you're going to be mentally tougher and even better.

And you're younger.

And you got a special talent.

He's a really good, he's a good kicker.

We've been lucky to have him here.

And he loves the Colts.

So it's like, we like those people around the building.

And a ton of faith in the training staff.

Like, Rigo just tours Achilles.

You know, and he's back punting football is better than Denton or anyone.

When he does, he's a good player.

Yeah, we do like the training staff.

Yeah, it's great.

Like Frog, like, you know, it's good.

So that'll be the only thing that I'd be worried about because this has kind of been the year of the kicker, whether it's been hitting bombs or kicks getting blocked.

It's been a storyline.

So I think it'll continue to be a storyline.

But the other things, the defensive pieces, I feel like with Lou, they'll only continue to get better.

and more dynamic.

You see a lot of free hitters.

Blackman stepped in.

He got a big pick yesterday.

So I love what Lou.

And then what Danny Dimes has been doing in this offense.

Like it's one thing to kind of get early in the year.

You can catch defenses off guard, maybe some gimmick shit, but they're doing like real, like, this is a high-level, high-operating offense.

You don't know where 84 Warren's going to be.

He could be a fullback.

He could be split out wide.

He could be in the corner formation.

He's a weapon, kind of like Gronk, always open, regardless of a guy's on him or not.

He's so big.

Pittman, you talked about his big body, the mismatch that Josh

Downs can give you in the slot.

And then Jonathan Taylor playing at an MVP level right now.

So we got all the pieces from top down right now.

We can go on a real, real run, especially with a division that, you know, looks like we should be in the driver's seat the whole way.

AMC Siles is a real jogger and all.

Don't you ever get twisted.

They got a big win yesterday.

Two things we didn't hit there in the top five, you think?

Two quick things?

Two quick things.

Let's go.

Dak.

Dak had a big, big day with down a bunch of old linemen, down his top receiver, CeeDee Lamb.

Turpin was actually out as well, but he had a huge kind of MVP caliber day.

He's been another quarterback coming off a year where he was hurt.

He's playing top, top-notch football.

You didn't know what to really expect coming into this game with all those pieces being down, but he raised his level.

Shout out to Shoddy calling the plays, putting them in good situations.

And then a great, great kind of feel-good story.

David Montgomery, Monty going back home, having a passing touchdown and a rushing touchdown in front of his sister, Kiki, who got in a terrible car accident.

So she actually been paralyzed a little bit over a year ago.

So this is the first game she got to watch him play live since that terrible accident.

So it awesome.

We talked about obviously his game.

And this is the 14th game where he and Gibbs have scored a touchdown in the same game, which is the NFL record, which is insane.

You remember whenever Foxy was saying they weren't calling him Sonic Knuckles anymore?

What was it other than that?

What was it?

What were they calling him?

They were calling him ass and cheeks, and I didn't like it one bit.

The internet is a cruel place.

All right.

That's messed up.

I didn't like that at all.

That seems like a long time ago now, though.

That was a bad week one for the Detroit Lions.

As bad as it gets.

I'll tell you what, we are in a much different place now than we were in week one there for the Detroit Lions.

I'll see you in the Super Bowl, Pat.

Colts Lions.

I don't know if MCD wants that right now.

Okay, I don't know if you want that right now.

He'll fight all your guys.

Yeah, but what's he going to do to Carly?

Exactly.

We win.

Yeah, but unfortunately, then Bennett, and then it and then Sheila Ford Hamp walks out.

Yes, you're right.

She doesn't want that glass to break, brother, because then Kaylin and Casey are going to be.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, so.

Three-on-one.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who might pick up where we left off.

If there was any crumbs to a story that maybe we didn't dabble upon, he will certainly keep us in line and also maybe tell us some shit that we've refused to cover because of our ignorance.

Ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL insider for ESPN, a Michigan man, Adam Schefter.

Whoa, shirt and tie.

Whoa,

professional.

That looks good.

I was dressing up for Fitzy and Big Wick.

Oh,

of course.

All right, Shefty.

Hey, Shefty, they're on a road trip across the country in the back of a very nice bus.

I believe this morning was the first time Fitch chose to shower on it.

If I'm reading the T Air Force,

I can tell you.

You said it was going to be nice in there, though.

It was really nice.

Hot water,

good water pressure.

Yeah.

See, it's not bad.

Not bad.

I love the bus life.

He doesn't travel with shampoo and conditioner, so I didn't get to shampoo and conditioner.

Oh, we got some for you here.

We'll certainly get to it.

Now, to be clear, we didn't buy it.

People have sent us that in the past.

We do not know if it's going to work or not, but we assume that it's okay.

Probably some starter company

call it like mop-head or something right something it'll work harvard you get it some kid created this in his garage uh good to see you guys chefter what did we miss in there i know you were sitting around listening to a lot of what we were chatting about the colts are going to the super bowl the 1972 dolphins undefeated streak continues the tampa bay buccaneers outrageous in what they're doing jets and bengals not complete ass is what the jets and bangles half ass half ass okay half ass is what they say and then come back chaos yesterday if you want to hit any of those or anything we left out we'd love to to hear it.

Chef D.

Well, I don't know how much hit on the Denver Broncos, a team that going into yesterday had a record of one and 112 going into the fourth quarter when they were down by 14 or more points.

And yesterday pulled out their second win in 114 games when they were in that spot.

Now, I covered John Elway for a lot of years.

There weren't many more players that were clutch than John Elway.

And even he didn't do that when they were down 14 on the road in the fourth quarter.

And yet, Sean Payton has now done this twice the last few years.

He did it yesterday in Philadelphia in the Eagles Stadium on the road against the defending champs.

It's pretty impressive.

And on that two-point conversion at the end, they didn't even hesitate.

They got right into that two-point conversion.

And there aren't a lot of head coaches across the league who would call for two points on this particular play right here, down 17-16 and go for the lead halfway through the fourth quarter.

That was...

Pretty bold to Sean Payton, but that's how confident he was that they would make it.

And the Broncos pulled through, and they left after the game to go to London.

They play the Jets there on Sunday.

So a big matchup for them.

Yeah, the Broncos coming into the season were obviously a lot of people's Super Bowl darlings.

They played an incredible Indianapolis Colts team.

You know, and I think a lot of people maybe weren't giving the Colts a lot of credit at the time.

So I think maybe the Broncos are maybe judged in a certain way that they might not be judged the same exact way today if it was to happen.

But they get a huge win.

And obviously,

that's the 1972 Dolphins get a chance to celebrate it, especially after the Bills lose last night.