PMS 2.0 1421 - TNF Preview, Kirk Herbstreit, Mike McCarthy, Cody Rhodes, & AJ Hawk

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome.

On this NFL week five kickoffs, Thursday, October 2nd, 2025, this program begins now!

Match going week five of the NFL season is kicking off tonight, which might be the best game of the weekend, but there are a lot of injuries as we head to the NFC West in Los Angeles.

It's 05 field.

Whose house?

Rams house.

Matthew Stafford, Puka Nakua on record pace to do something that only Matthew Stafford has done with two other wide receivers before.

Whenever you talk about receiving, and what Puka's year has looked like has been immaculate.

And it's obviously a big part of the conversation about Devontae Adams joining the Los Angeles Rams and now having multiple weapons.

And then you look at the Young Buck on the defensive side, Jared Verson, the boys of Fisk, everybody up front, have transitioned so nicely into this generation, this era of the Rams defense, post-the Aaron Donald era.

And this Rams team is the real deal they started out as favorites of three on october 28th or yep september september september 28th yep it's all coming together here it's just starting

september 28th

it happened in september and yeah it's carrying on here to october

and uh on september 28th the rams were favored by three now it's eight and a half and obviously that's because of a lot of injuries to the san francisco 49ers mccorkle jones will be the quarterback because brock purdy is back out again obviously had to hurt toe came back didn't look great now in a short week let's go ahead and get maybe two weeks of rest for him on this toe after paying him a hundred and hundred and hundreds of millions of dollars this offseason let's make sure he's back healthy obviously jawan jennings a massive piece of the entire operation out ricky pearsall out not great jordan watkins out robert beale out and then on the other side having stein's a dog he's doubtful And Tyler Higby, he's also doubtful.

But the Rams, much more healthy than the San Francisco 49ers.

But But the San Francisco 49ers got a resurgence from Mac Jones.

They got Christian McCaffrey.

They got Fred Warner.

I know they lose the Jungle Cat.

Nick Bose said.

They still got Fred Warner with the second one around.

And all the other guys on the defensive side

that we love.

Now, there is a stat that we got from Hembo.

Kyle Shanahan as an underdog.

Against Sean McVay is 7-2 against the spread.

Okay.

Against the spread, seven and two against the spread.

Eight and a half is a lot of points for a division game on Thursday night.

It is.

It started out as three because that's what everybody kind of just assumes.

These teams know each other.

They're good teams.

The injuries have certainly been a massive piece of the sports books changing this all the way to eight and a half.

Let's go to one half of the hammer.

Dad.

Cowboys AP Tone.

Now, Tone, I know that 95% of the betters that have been reported are hitting the over for Puka Nakua's reception today, which is seven and a half.

Okay, that's probably a safe bet.

McVay and Stafford, I think, Connor, what was the stat you saw?

they're force feeding puka yeah it's ridiculous puka has 503 yards devontae has 269 yards to diabolo has 92 because of that touchdown because the colts don't know there's it's 11 on 11 and then uh higby is next with 62 yards so really the split is puka 503 devontae 269 and then higby 62 yards devontae adams is living the dream yeah devontae adams living the dream i got an offense coordinator is force feeding me basically and then number one wide receiver maybe of all time depending upon how it goes is on the other side, eating up the coverage for me.

And Matthew Stafford, this guy can spin it.

He's like Aaron spinning the ball.

So I'm always open.

I'm always in it.

So Devontae Adams, obviously having a great time.

The betters, though, how are they viewing this game?

Other than Puka's over a seven and a half, what is the percentage of money for the public?

What is the percentage of money for the book?

Because we're at the point now where we got enough data where we're saying

the massive publicly bet bets

are not doing well.

If it looks obvious right now,

it's obviously going the other way.

Right.

Is what stats are telling us.

Yes.

Is tonight one of their situations or what is the money saying tonight?

So to your point, on the season, if a game has 60% or more on a side, they are 10 and 24 against the spread, which is a 29% hit rate right now.

So every week, when you ask me, was it the books or the public?

It's been the books every single week.

But tonight, you talked about how Shanahan and McVay.

Shanahan has been good against McVay.

He's 10-5 versus McVay just straight up okay and then against the spread uh seven and two as a dog now that you go to the other side um shanahan not versus mcve shanahan just as a dog just this is just straight up to win the game uh four or more points if he's a dog of four or more points he's four and 23 straight up uh if he's a dog of six or more points he's one and 18 straight up so he shanahan has not been good he's losing the games that everybody says he's going supposed to lose yes but he's been good against mcvey so you got to pick apart all those things can the can the Niners play without their starting wide receivers?

They do have some depth there as far as some guys that they brought in.

I believe Kendrick Bourne, MBS, guys like that that they brought in.

So we'll see how Mac does with the funky bunch tonight.

Kyle Shanahan as underdog versus Sean McVay, including playoffs.

The under is six and three.

That makes sense.

Okay, so maybe they're able to make it a KG affair.

Robert Sala, six foot four.

We know he's an absolute monster.

Maybe he's able to dial up something to stop this Rams offense, which is very dynamic.

I mean, they can run it.

They can spin it.

They can get their tight end involved if they need to.

And then their defense is just everywhere seemingly now denying dimes and the boys uh the indianapolis colts certainly should have had a one uh a win but since they didn't you wonder are the football gods on this rams team side yeah you know especially if we got guys dropping the ball at the half-yard line and uh is that happening for anybody else now it's happening for the rams what's that all about What do they got going on?

We put that tail of the tape out back.

This is the play I'm talking about, by the way.

Maybe the football gods did come down and say, Jim Ursa, we know you've been trying to do as much as you possibly can, but let's go ahead and let us take over this one because we like the Rams.

Let him drop the ball right there.

Half-yard line.

Third quarter.

Down three.

And then two minutes later, let's have him hold somebody on Jonathan Taylor's six-year touchdown.

Okay, we get it.

Okay, we get it.

We're not going to win this game.

But the Rams get that win.

It is destiny in their favor for the Los Angeles side.

Now, here's a tale-of-the-tape record against spread.

Total yards per game.

Total yards allowed per game.

Total points per game.

Opponents points per game.

Wow.

Eight and a half point spread.

Okay.

Yeah.

You see, and then second, third, 28th, 13th.

Okay.

San Francisco 49ers rush offense, not great.

Okay, that's weird.

That doesn't make a lot of sense for Christian.

Fifth total offense, fourth, sixth, ninth, seventeenth, and fifth, ninth.

Like, we're kind of all a couple outliers there, but we were dancing in the same waters, these two teams.

Shanahan and McVay know each other very well.

Sala knows McVay very well.

Before his Jetson, obviously, he's back over there taking it.

So I am intrigued by tonight, and I think we need to enjoy this game.

Let's go to the talks table at Ty Schmidt.

I know baseball is humming, but tonight we got a great NFL game.

Yeah, without a doubt.

And it's weird because going into this with all the injuries, you're kind of thinking, or at least I was this morning, like, this game's going to suck.

This is going to be terrible.

And then you look at that, and it's like, wow, these teams are actually pretty darn even.

We'll see.

I mean, I'm kind of coming back around on the, hey, maybe Mac Jones is the guy they've needed all along.

And granted, Brock Purdy was very hurt last week, but I mean, if they're, you know, if they want to throw the football tonight, they're down a couple guys.

But Mac Jones, I'll tell you what, in his couple starts, he has looked capable.

So we'll see.

Because the Rams, they are a team that, you know, they're in the quad box every single week.

And so, like, you've gotten eyes on them.

They're good.

They're fun to watch.

So this is going to be interesting.

I just, I just hope.

I hope it's points.

I hope it's not a KG affair.

Like, there's a good chance it will.

Now, there's a chance the Niners Faith will take that thing over there down there in Los Angeles.

We hope not.

Obviously, we hope it's a Rams house, and we hope that place is crazy.

We can't wait to catch up with Kirk and Al and Kaylee and the entire pre-show and nightcap squad.

We appreciate them doing as good of a job as they always do.

And we can't wait to watch that.

We might have Herbstree join us here in like 20, 30 minutes or so.

I do believe they're in the middle of some potential meetings.

We'll see if he has some time.

Just what he's here, you know?

Exactly.

Eight and a half point spread.

Division rival on Thursday nights.

Obviously, a lot of points.

I assume that's what Coach McCarthy is going to say whenever he joins us in the next hour.

But it's the injuries.

What's Shanahan's mindset?

How's he going to keep it moving?

We shall see.

Last night, baseball.

Hey, today, baseball.

Yesterday, Schwarbo, Kyle Raleigh, on program, baseball.

In the offseason, at baseball.

Yeah.

It feels like we've tried our best.

The most we have done about baseball is certainly this season.

And hopefully that only grows going forward as long as the SPN doesn't hold us back from actually getting to do it.

Sure.

One particular person.

That's gross, gross what that person did.

Just absolutely gross what that person did.

But on that note, MLB has been delivering for the people, and it's been the stars making the plays.

Last night, great baseball.

My wife and I, wife, not a big baseball fan, captivated by Sox and Yankees.

It was impossible not to.

And then the most electrifying man that I saw at Home Run Derby, Jash Chisholm, does his thing and comes and shows up big time for the Yankees.

And then a Jenser puts that thing away.

Last night was awesome for baseball.

What do we have today?

And what do we need to know about what happened yesterday?

Yeah, so today we had the Dodgers clinched last night.

It was a great run for Kirk's Cincinnati Red Legs.

They got embarrassed pretty much two games in a row by the Dodgers, which I kind of think is what everyone expected.

So they're out.

We got Dodgers Phillies now.

Yeah, Shohei is pitching.

Shohei is pitching game one that has already been confirmed by their manager, Dave Roberts.

So that's going to be awesome.

That's going to be.

Yes, it is.

Shohei and Philly.

Exactly.

Shohei v.

Schwarber, Shohei v.

Bryce Harper.

We're going to get some very juicy matchups in that one.

And then all of the other games, they were elimination games yesterday, obviously.

The Guardians beat the Tigers.

The The Padres beat the Cubs.

And then last night, you mentioned the Yankees beat the Red Sox.

We're running back all those games today.

I've said it a couple times.

Like, last night is if you have nothing else to watch and there are no sports on, it's not a football night, playoff baseball is awesome because I know they talk about it, and it's every sport.

You know, every play matters.

You know, in like the NFL, first play of the game, a guy could have an 80-yard touchdown, and that could be the deciding factor in the game or, you know, whatever the case may be.

Like, it always matters.

And baseball in the regular season, I don't think that really counts as much.

But you could see last night watching this game, like...

Especially if you're a fan of one of the teams, it's pins and needles every single pitch.

Because the way that game went last night, Ben Rice, who didn't play in game one, a lot of Yankees fans were like, what the hell are we doing?

This guy's been very good against the Red Sox.

He hits a home run, and then we go a little bit later.

Every time the Red Sox needed someone to answer last night, Trevor Story, he answered.

The Yankees would go up, boom, he would get an RBI single.

And then this is later in the game.

The Yankees go up once again on a judge fly out to the outfield.

There wasn't a flyout.

It ended up popping out of

Duran's glove.

But Story answered every time they needed to.

And then we got down late.

Again, jazz.

You know, I mean, I don't know where we're at right now.

7-7.

Okay, yeah.

He's a blind man, actually.

Yeah, I am.

Yeah,

bases loaded.

And you can see, you know, it just, it's one of those things.

This pitcher, if you, these are the kind of guys that become stars during the playoffs.

That's Fernando Cruz.

Watch this.

This guy's a maniac.

Yeah.

He's an absolute psycho.

He does this pretty much every single outing he has.

If he gets out of it, throwing his hat, screaming, like really being kind of an emotional anchor for the Yankees.

He's a madman.

He's a madman.

He's from Puerto Rico, and he's got the juice big time.

And when their backs are against the wall, they needed him most.

And then boom, Jazz Chisholm's on first base.

Austin Wells, another guy, their catcher who hasn't been great.

Singles to the outfield.

And Jazz goes from first to home in 9.1 seconds and is safe.

The Yankees pull up 4-3.

That was a massive play because there was a lot of talk about his attitude after game one.

They were interviewing him in the clubhouse, and he kind of had his back to reporters.

He was really pissed off.

He didn't play.

So they were going to say, you know, hey, how is this guy going to respond when it matters most?

Well, there you have it.

He scores the game-winning run earlier in the game.

He had a massive play.

And then you mentioned it.

the big guy from Pittsburgh, David Bednar, who the Yankees traded for at the deadline, comes out to renegade and gets a fly out with a little bit of trouble to end the game.

So the Yankees,

here we go.

We got another game tonight.

And we'll see.

It was just, it was an electric baseball game.

Yeah, I agree.

It was absolutely electric.

And Aaron Judge making a huge play there.

Yeah.

Because I saw a couple hit-bats late, obviously.

Aaron Judge is going to be under a microscope all the time.

Let's go back to Bednar, the Pittsburgh guy.

Because he comes out to renegade.

Yes.

He played for Buccos, Pittsburgh Pirates.

He's from Pittsburgh.

Yes.

He has season tickets to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

He does.

He's a die-hard Jenser.

Yes.

And this guy was pitching for the Pittsburgh Pirates this year.

Yeah.

He was an all-star for the Pirates.

Okay, so obviously, this piece of trash owner says, let's get this guy the hell out of here.

We've seen a lot of pitchers from the Pirates go other places and have success.

Die Hard Jenser makes the all-star game as a Pittsburgh Pirate.

Owner,

you need to get out of here.

Sorry.

You understand what this is.

Send him on his way.

So then he, renegade happens at Yankee Field.

Yankee Stadium.

Yankee Stadium.

Renegade happens the first time.

I saw it over the internet.

And all Pittsburgh people were like, nope, can't have that.

That can't be how this goes.

So he actually thought about getting rid of it because he thought he was disrespecting the Pittsburgh Steelers, right?

Is that not what he thought?

He thought he was disrespecting Pittsburgh as a whole.

And then he went and laid down at night and had deep thoughts.

And what happened?

How did he end up keeping this entire thing?

Yeah, he basically said, like, I was, and this is verbatim from a quote that I read.

He said he was thinking about getting rid of Renegade.

And then he said, but you know what?

Like, I hear that, and it just makes me think about James Harrison sacking Joe Flacco.

And I get pumped up.

So I couldn't do it.

That's the mentality he wants to carry to the mound.

So he's sticking with Renegade.

And we said, get out of here.

We had that guy.

We had the Cy Young winner.

Yeah.

What are we doing?

This guy loves.

I thought of Jay.

Every time I'm jogging out there, I'm thinking of fucking Debo just taking on Cleveland Browns quarterback's head.

Like, that's what he's thinking.

That is, and of course, the Pirates say, get him out of town.

On that note, good to see you, Inser.

Good to see you, buddy.

That's fun to watch.

Baseball has been delivering.

Shohei pitching is great news.

Yes.

I'm so in Philly, in a bank, I believe is what they call it, which is obviously

an insane

to Shohei.

You think Shohei's worried about anything?

No, no.

Tony's talking about.

He's saying good luck because there's a casino next to the stadium.

Remember, we talked to Kyle?

And I think he's more worried about possibly.

On that note, those things happening around Shohei

very regularly.

This has been noise at the bank, at the casino.

Exactly.

Okay?

Yeah.

That lost

a lot of fun.

A lot of noise.

Yeah.

A lot of bank involved.

There's been a lot of noise around him with very similar things.

There's going to be a lot of noise in Philly.

And all he's ever done is just locked right in.

He does not care at all.

This guy is just a special machine.

This Joe Hayo Tom.

Baseball has been delivering.

We appreciate baseball.

Hell yeah.

Baseball.

Let's start some football conversation.

Tom Brady asked Peyton Manning on the first episode of Rushborn, whenever they were trying to piece together the best four receivers of the football in the history of the game.

Tom Brady asked Peyton Manning, he said, you ever see anybody get open on Revis?

He actually asked, you think Jerry Rice could get open on Darrell Revis?

And Peyton goes, I think Jerry would say he could get open on Darrell Revis.

And Tom Brady goes, exactly.

Nobody could get open on Darrell Reeves.

There's a reason it was Revis Island.

Darrell Rivis was getting paid like a mercenary, like $25, $30 million a year, just come in and lock down an entire half of the field.

Hey, the other team's best wide receiver is going to have zero yards today.

That is what Revis promised.

That's what Revis got paid for.

And that's what Revis delivered for a long time.

He was by far the greatest in the game at what he did.

So Tom Brady, while making an argument for Gronkowski, said, Bah, ba, ba talked about Revis' greatness.

He goes, Gronk could get open on Revis.

Okay, that is, even whenever we had Rivis in practice, I put Gronk out there.

Gronk could get open on Reeves.

Nobody else could get open on Rivas.

Rob Gronkowski, because how big he is, because how fast he is, because how he knows leverage, could get open on Darrell Rivas.

Well, Darrell Rivas saw that and he responded.

And Darrell Rivas says, it's a damn lie, Tom.

Okay, and I love that Darrell Rivas will always have this mentality.

You have to at the corner position.

You have to be like, no, everybody can get locked down.

Anybody can get it.

And I love to Tom Brady said, Gronk in practice is getting open on this guy.

And Revis goes, I don't even care if the reps don't count.

No motherfucker is getting open on me.

That's the type of competitive spirit that you need, especially at that position.

And on that note, Xavian Howard of the Indianapolis Colts has announced his retirement here before we go into week five of the NFL season.

He obviously has had a great career.

Xavian Howard, obviously, incredible name in the football world.

Whenever he came to Indianapolis, we're excited to see what we had with Xavian Howard.

First couple weeks have not been great.

Obviously, for him, that is a hard position to potentially not be at your absolute best because who you're going against is,

they're getting younger and faster.

So when you're out there, when you're exposed out there, there's a chance that bad things can happen to you and to the team.

I don't know how it all came about.

The way it read, because Lou Anna Rumo had a quote like on Tuesday about Xavier Howard, like, we'll talk about that.

We'll figure that out.

And then that quote didn't really make its way around until like yesterday.

And then like an hour later, Xavier Howard's retirement was announced.

It was like, ooh, this feels like there was maybe a situation that happened.

So I reached out to source

in the building, and they don't know the timing of the conversation or everything, but this was definitely Xavier Howard being like, hey,

fun run.

Yeah.

This is this has been a good.

That's not a position.

We saw Vanta Davis, rest in peace, a friend of mine, former teammate of mine, middle of a game, say, no, I'm not doing that.

I am not getting out because you can, I think you can know.

What'd it sound like?

I think you can do, hey,

it's a young man game, bro.

Rest in peace, Devontae.

uh obviously

legendary retirement there but that is a real thing whenever you're out there and obviously i've never been anywhere near athletic enough to go out there and we do have great watts that have played that position without a doubt and are certainly currently playing that position but boy if you are outmatched it is not a fun thing any play because any play you can get it and everybody in the stadium is going to know that's why the confidence the athleticism everything that's why that riva is just outrageous for what he was able to do and then there's guys that have played like 20 something years at corner.

It's like crazy.

Outrageous right there, the athleticism that you have to have for that.

Xavien Howard retires, but I think this is like,

this is like a good, I don't want to say metaphor, but example of like the NFL is every generation's all-star game.

So like you can be, huh?

And then another class comes in and all of a sudden it just goes like that.

That's why the people that are great for a long time, we have to respect because the amount of work,

God-given athletic ability, but also like attention to detail that it takes to stay on top of the game is crazy.

So, thank you, X, for coming to Indy.

Sorry it didn't work out as well, and have an incredible retirement, brother.

I hope you enjoy all of it.

Yeah, and respectfully, I think a lot of people who play Puka Nakua are going to retire the week after.

I don't think that's exclusive to Xavian Howard, but with the Revis thing, that year you talked about him being a mercenary.

It was that.

The Patriots won the Super Bowl the year Revis was there, strictly because, hey, half the field is completely gone.

And then the other side, they had Brandon Browner, who was also unbelievable.

But it is cool just hearing from the Rushmore, you know, about Revis and about those like greats in the game when Tom and Peyton were playing and just them talking about them.

And like those stories are so awesome.

I do hope Puka doesn't, you know, go

too hard tonight because if he does, then does San Francisco even have a defense tomorrow?

Do they all retire?

I think we have to cast that point.

That's cool.

The retirement causer.

Boom.

You know, there might become a list like Randy Orton was a legend killer.

Yeah,

for a long time.

And he was saying on that note,

the American I'm a Co-Rhodes gonna be here.

One

at 140 live in studio.

He actually pulled up.

He's right outside.

Yeah, whoa, whoa.

Whoa.

Whoa, you know, I can't believe he's gonna be here.

bad, bad, bad, bad boo.

Ben a bena bena boo.

He's outside.

Whoa!

That makes sense.

He's out there.

Yeah, you got to do that whenever he's around.

No pyro the other night.

What was that all messed up?

No pyro the other night.

Can't have that.

Yeah, we don't have to show it.

Certainly do not have to show it.

But he has a

crown jewel in Perth, Australia next weekend, Saturday, October 11th, 8 a.m.

start time.

Obviously, Australia, it's

okay.

It was the complete opposite side of the world.

Beautiful place.

I've never been to Perth.

Australia is a beautiful place.

It is very far, though.

And they're going to fly a long way to see who's got it, who doesn't.

That's right.

Cody Rhodes, Seth Rollins.

And before we get there, tomorrow night in Cincinnati, SmackDown, Cody Rhodes is in tag team action against the vision, obviously,

which Seth Rollins created.

Yeah, so they're throwing everything at Cody Rhodes, and he'll chit-chat with us beforehand.

He's teaming up with, obviously, the, I think he's with Randy.

I don't want to say it's wrong.

the viper i believe i think he is with randy yeah okay is he i think so do we know that that moment did mention that earlier okay so cody rhodes and randy orton are on the team together okay must watch how are they gonna lose taking on the vision come on the vision's pretty crafty now they are that tsunami

the vision name too the vision yeah because it's like the future kind of sick and who's got it who's got the vision is it this guy is it this guy well i think it's paul and seth got it yeah they have and then braun breaker is and braun Braun Sarida is.

They're their vision.

Their eyes have sight.

Yeah.

But their vision is Braun Breaker.

Hell yeah.

There it is.

That's the vision.

And Paul Hammond's got good eyes.

He does.

Always has.

Good eyes.

Good tongue.

Good mic.

Great tongue.

Great.

We've seen.

Maybe some of the most silver tongue of all time.

Yeah, you can say that.

Let's talk about Shador Sanders.

Okay.

Ooh.

Do we have to?

I know.

Do we?

Well, should we?

we

just do the whole thing like he did?

If we're going to be honest about it, holy shit, are you kidding me?

Content creator, good.

Sure.

Okay, if he's a content creator,

it is good.

Yeah.

Okay, like if he, that was a hilarious response.

Once again, this is just like this kind of goes back to the Anthony Richardson conversation that kind of happened a year ago.

It's like when you're a quarterback, it's just a different animal.

Like being a quarterback is just a different thing.

You're the CEO of a company.

You're the face of a multi-billion dollar operation.

Like that's what a quarterback is.

Me, Punter, could get away with being a dumbass in certain things.

Don't have the spotlight on me all the time.

Shador, third-string quarterback, fifth-round pick, obviously has a massive spotlight on him because of who he is, the success he's had, how many people follow and like him, and also, you know, the family he comes from is a very important piece of the entire puzzle because that particular family, the dad, happens to be one of the greatest athletes to ever exist.

Not just one of the greatest football players, just athletes of all time, motivators, businessmen, musicians, we'll even say.

Good at everything.

So So family is going to be followed.

Him being a part of that, obviously going to be talked about.

So him responding to Rex Ryan saying, I don't need to hear you talk.

I don't need to hear your mouth.

I don't need to hear you talk.

I don't need to hear another word from a third string quarterback, which is not just Rex Ryan's thoughts.

That is

pretty much anybody that's in the NFL's thoughts

because

it's hard enough to win a game already.

This happened with Tebow.

Okay, the Tebow effect, Tebow Mania.

Hey, we don't need added distractions because of a backup quarterback or a third quarterback.

Life's already hard enough in the NFL to get a win.

We don't need to be bringing more bullshit to our locker room, which is probably why you didn't see Shador get drafted until the fifth round.

Now, allegedly, there was Ravens and who knows how many other teams that wanted to draft Shador and they said no, declined, which once again is a whole nother conversation that's happening around NFL buildings about these people are declining opportunities to get in the NFL.

Like, what are they, like, you have those people that just live in NFL buildings?

So him miming his answer about Dylan Gabriel becoming starter and him still being a third string quarterback, hilarious response to somebody that's talking shit about you or to you, especially whenever they say, I want to hear you.

Like that is a very clever response.

That is a hilarious response.

Like I would like to say on the record, hysterical response.

And people have said, hey, I don't want to hear the punter before.

And I wish.

I would have thought of this idea.

I would like to say that I wish that was the case.

But much like everybody else has kind of reiterated, this is like a content creator type thing as opposed to maybe an NFL quarterback.

Now, all he needs is one team to want him.

Okay.

So who cares if you piss off a bunch of decision makers with this?

Who cares if you legitimize all the worries about you being a distraction or something, not taking it serious, or do you want the best for the team?

All that.

There's people that are going to be able to spin that in NFL buildings that this is not good for us to have in our building.

But once again, all he needs is one team to be like, pretty clever, actually.

I like the way he's talking shit back.

I like how he's maintained his moxie throughout this entire process.

I don't think Dylan Gabriel, even though people are taking his quote and saying he's taking a shot at him, it's like, it feels like Dylan Gabriel, Joe Flacco, even when Kenny Pickett was there, there was never like beef towards Shador Sanders.

And Shador was doing a lot of community stuff before him.

It was never like beef towards Shador.

It is heightened

awareness, heightened clout because of who he is.

So he knows he has to know that and understand that.

Everybody's going to talk about it.

But like, there's definitely people in the NFL that are like, exactly.

That is exactly what we thought.

But you don't really hear Dylan saying like,

you don't really hear anybody that's actually in there being like, this guy is a nuisance or a pest or drama or controversy or anything like that.

But there is a lot of shit that gets out that you just think to yourself, well, that's not a desirable thing that we would want to see from a third string quarterback for our team.

That is kind of what people think.

But it's like Shador is going to get covered in a different way.

How many times does ESPN Cleveland Radio have an iPhone on the third string quarterback?

Right.

Okay.

So it's like never normally.

I was the third string quarterback for the Colts for a couple of times, and I wasn't asked questions ever.

So it's a gift and a curse.

Everybody knows what's coming with the Sanders family and what it is and how it's going to be.

Just like with Tebow, just like Man's, all these people that get labeled potentially a distraction.

There's going to be people that hate it, and every move that happens legitimizes that hate.

And then all you really need, though, is just one person, one decision maker to be like.

I don't mind it.

We can handle it.

Gets in our building.

He'll be good.

We'll see if that ever happens.

Well, probably kind of hard too for Shador, just because him and Gabriel came out at the same time.

They played college at the same time.

And like, it's probably easy for Shador to look at his stats in college and, you know, Gabriel's stats in college, whatever, and maybe think he's better.

It just doesn't make any sense for him to kind of come out and do that whole thing.

It just creates drama immediately.

And you mentioned Tebow.

Like, Tebow is the only comparison.

And if you were to go back and, you know, listen to Tebow or watch his stuff, he's not doing that shit.

And then Tebow eventually, you know, I forget.

if he was the starter immediately or eventually got an opportunity but he wasn't doing any like bullshit to make some sort of storyline.

Like, this is not a story if Shador just answers the questions honestly, or unless he answers them honestly, and it's like, yeah, I'm way better than this fucking guy, which he might, excuse me.

But, but, like, I don't know what to do.

I'm not going to talk.

Why?

Because if I say something, it's not going to be, and also, I want to hear me.

And I'm going to be honest, I don't want to say what I got to say.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

What if Shador thinks this is the greatest out?

I don't know what you want me to do.

I was told you don't want to hear me, but I can't give my actual answer.

So you want me to do coach speak?

Yeah.

Yeah.

That is.

what NFL rooms want.

Now, fans, his followers, his supporters, sports media, obviously, we've all talked about it.

Everybody has hit it.

We love that this is happening, but I don't know if it's necessarily the right move for an NFL career, if that is what you're looking for.

But we don't know what Shador.

Once again, all you need is one team to be like, that's fucking hilarious.

We wish we would have done that to Rex Ryan, actually.

I don't know if you had any guys like teammates like this when you were playing, but like, is there a point?

Swallow a bug.

You get choked up.

Swallow a bug.

Saw Yankees tonight.

He got emotional last night.

I FaceTime with him last night.

It was much better at FaceTime than the ones that I have been having.

Yeah, 40-40 tie.

Yeah, with this loss.

It was a good thing.

It was a little more pleasant.

It was a little more pleasant.

But like you mentioned, we haven't heard anything about the other quarterbacks in the room or Stefanski being like, hey, we're sick and tired of this guy.

But at what point would maybe an old, like a vet go up to him and be like, Hey, you got to stop doing this shit?

Like, just shut up.

Every time you say something, it is becoming a distraction.

Like, how much of that is actually leaking into the building?

You think?

I don't know.

I don't think nobody said anything about him in the team, which I think is the only thing that matters.

For us, it's all fodder.

As soon as the locker room starts talking, then we'll start taking it serious.

And then there were people that were saying, Dylan Gabriel, I think these are Shador Sanders fans saying that Dylan Gabriel took a shot at Shador Sanders.

Listen to the entire, this is 51 seconds, and then he says, like, a very

cliche almost answer about how people in professional sports have described getting their first start I think it's funny because you know I got a text from a good buddy of mine and he sent me a picture of a fire station you know and like it's kind of like why are you sending that you know but um when he sends it you know he just lists the the obvious right like doors are open garage doors are open, like things are ready to go and like they're just waiting on that phone call to like respond surgically and like just what a great representation of like the job i had and and being ready for that moment and i think you know i smile because it's like a moment you prep for and you you are extremely excited for but also got to realize that it's extreme focus and and that's what i've continued to harp on but hell yeah you wait for the perfect time you know you're gonna wait a whole lifetime so for me i'm just i've always been ready well shador has a song called perfect timing this is shot at shador It's like

nobody's ever said, like, hey, no perfect time's coming.

Or if you wait for a perfect time, it's never going to show up.

It's like, I think he handled that amazing.

Dylan Gabriel has handled this entire thing perfectly as well.

It hasn't been easy.

Because he's third-round draft pick, first quarterback drafted to the Cleveland Browns.

He probably thinks I'm about to have a great NFL career.

Like, I'm trying to have an incredible NFL career, as he should be thinking like that, especially after how he played in Oregon everywhere but the Rose Bowl.

And then at Oklahoma with why he ended up going to Oregon because of how good he was.

And all he's done, he said extreme focus and staying locked in.

He hasn't said shit.

He hasn't done anything.

There's been so much loud, loud, loud around him about the guy getting drafted after him.

He probably started to worry, actually, about maybe everybody's working against me here.

You know, like he probably started feeling like maybe I'm not even getting an opportunity, letting like negativity kind of slip in.

And he never let it waver, never waver, just has continued to go about it.

I think he has handled this.

perfectly and that that was not how the internet loved hearing that that was a slight and i am very quick to be like oh that guy that guy kind of taking a shot at that i thought that was like almost a cliche answer at the end of the entire thing and i will also say perfect timing great song so

both ways can kind of be right at this particular tell you what dg's got a very wise friend that that fire station thing i like that a lot

doors are open okay garage doors are open just wait just waiting for the time you got to be prepared and he said that's all i've really thought about extreme focus and if you wait for the perfect time it's never going to come and it's we've thought we've talked about that with rookie quarterback Yeah, it's like, man, if he goes in there now, he's gonna play like China.

This team, you're right, he's gotta play.

This team's gonna play this team.

It's like, hey, it's the NFL.

He's gonna have to play really good people.

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Ladies and gentlemen, old Blue Eyes and dog handler to Pete, Kirk Herbstreet.

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Hey, I'm great.

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I'm going to do Shador Sanders.

Hey, we were just talking about that a little bit, actually.

We were just chit-chatting about how, obviously, because he's Shador Sanders, that's why ESPN Cleveland Radio has a camera on him.

And there's obviously going to be heightened attention brought to Shador, has been since he's got there, has been since he's been in college.

And anytime he does any of these things, there's either people that are going to say, Yep, just like we said, and then all he really needs, though, is just one one team to like that and bring him in.

And maybe he has a great career, but let's not talk about Shador.

Let's talk about Dylan Gabriel here.

Now, he gets his first start in London.

Obviously, he's taking on the Carson Wentz experience and a B-flow defense that is going to be difficult.

But whenever you think about Dylan Gabriel, what do you think about whenever it comes to handling this entire situation?

This is a tough situation for a third-round draft pick who's trying to make his career.

And then a guy that's drafted two rounds after him is obviously the topic of conversation all offseason, all training camp.

Even when he gets his start, topic of conversation.

He has maintained kind of locked in, laser-like focus.

I love the way he has handled it.

He obviously has a chance with his arm.

What do you expect from him with the Browns?

And has he always been this guy that is like the utmost professional seemingly here?

Yeah, I'm with you.

I go back to anytime you're looking at a young quarterback, I personally look at how many reps he had as a collegiate quarterback.

This guy was at UCF for a few years, then he went to Norman, played at Oklahoma, and then obviously finished it in Eugene.

And the only reason I bring all that up is this guy's dealt with a lot of different circumstances and different kind of pressures, especially when he stepped up from UCF to Oklahoma.

And so I think that really hardens a guy, you know, when you deal with the ups and downs of playing quarterback at some of these high-profile places, and you have so many reps.

You know, that's why I think Brock Purdy was able so quickly after a four-year start, four-year starter at Iowa State to be able to step into the NFL and seed the game pretty quickly.

And I think Dylan Gabriel reminds me of that.

You know, he reminds me of a guy that had a ton of reps.

You put him in that offense with Kevin Stefansky, who understands how to attack and how to be decisive.

I would tell you, even though he's young, I have high expectations.

Now, he's not your typical 6'3, 6'4 quarterback, but because of what I just brought up about how he understands how to attack defense's weakness, I think he'll be put in a position to make quick decisions.

And I would not be surprised at all to see him go out and play well in his first game.

And what you brought up, I think he understood when Chador Sanders got drafted that there was going to be a lot of attention on Chador and that he was in a very unique position being drafted ahead of him,

but not be talked about a lot.

And now here he is, even this week.

He's the starter.

Part of me wonders if he's okay with that.

Part of me wonders if he just, you know, let my play do my talking.

And, you know, he's going to have a really, as we all know, Minnesota, what they do defensively with the different looks, they'll pressure you, especially young quarterbacks.

They'll walk seven guys up.

They'll come.

They'll drop.

You know, his head's going to be spinning, but I don't know.

I got a feeling he'll go out there.

And I'm not saying he's going to light it up, but I don't think he's going to be a deficiency.

I think he'll play well.

And I think he'll play fast because of how he'll be prepped for that defense.

Aaron Rodgers played fast against the Minnesota Vikings defense last week in Ireland.

It looks good.

Now, obviously, Aaron Rodgers, 20-some years years in against NFL defenses.

We'll see what Dylan Gabriel, 64 career college starts, brings into the NFL.

Yeah, that's a lot.

That's a lot.

They just did the

this weekend.

I won in the Hall of Fame for West Virginia.

No big deal.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Congrats, bro.

Shout out to Prince.

Great speech, one take.

Unbelievable.

Yeah, he had to do his acceptance speech

on the college game day.

College game day set in front with his speakers up in front of, I don't know, eight or 10,000 Penn State fans and knocked it out in one take.

It was pretty remarkable.

And they even sang

us, yeah, Country Roads.

It was fantastic.

Yeah, it was great.

It was nice.

I appreciate them helping there.

I was told on Wednesday, like, because there was still a thought on me trying to make it to Morgantown for the entire thing.

Timing-wise, it wasn't going to work.

And then also my family, my wife had an event or two to go to.

My dad was, like, I felt like that should have been a family thing.

So it was, you know, fall is crazy for us.

You, I mean, obviously we see, but all of us, fall is pretty crazy.

So on Wednesday, Matt Wells, remember Wellesy, the assistant athletic director, was like, hey, can you, can you send a video that we can run at least?

And I'm like, you got it.

I completely forgot about it.

Like,

I completely, I'm like, I am so sorry.

I'm so sorry.

Wellesy, good guy.

He sends me a text on Friday.

He's like, hey, man, all good.

Just wondering if you get the video.

Friday, I'm already.

at Penn State.

We don't have a...

So am I going to do an iPhone for you?

I don't think so.

So literally, I'm like, I text Matt Garrett the night before.

I'm like, hey, can I use the stage tomorrow morning to record something?

I think that would be pretty cool.

Also, because college game dance, college football and everything like that.

Yeah, no problem.

So I didn't think it through, though.

I was like, this is literally the only shot that I got to do this thing.

Once I get up there, I didn't realize we got to stop the music.

Because DJ Griff is crushing it out there since like 5 a.m.

Stop the music completely.

Do you want us to play the speakers to the people?

I'm like, oh, no.

I didn't even think about it.

I thought I was just going to be able to talk while music's happening.

Would not have been possible.

So I'm very thankful that they kind of bought into it and they actually shaped kind of the speech because they started with eat shit pit chance immediately.

So as soon as I turned around, as soon as I turned around, improv, good, we improv on that.

Hey, thank you, thank you.

As soon as I turn around, I was like, hey, I got to do a Hall of Fame speech.

And they're like, congratulations.

I'm like, thanks, thanks.

Yeah.

It's obviously I can't make it because I'm here.

Is there any way you could help?

They're going to show it at West Virginia or whatever.

And they go, yeah, the crowd's like, yeah.

And then as soon as I turn back around, they go, eat shit pit.

I'm like, yeah, okay.

Yes, you do know.

You do know what we are trying to get accomplished.

So I appreciate them doing that.

But in the video they ran, I learned a lot about my college career.

So they put together

a video.

They put together a really nice video.

And I'm very thankful.

And I learned a lot about my career.

It was kind of like, you know, nice, because in that speech, I talked about how since I've left, I've only thought about one game, one night, the entire time.

How it was the worst night of my life.

Like, that's all I've thought about with my West Virginia career.

And if I hadn't thought about it, somebody will remind me of it.

So that's literally, I went to school there for however long, all-time leading scorer, you know, all that shit.

Only thing I think about is the worst night of my life, basically.

So then

kicking, punning, kickoffs.

Like, you did it all, man.

I didn't realize that myself.

I went back and watched the

presentation and the way they led to it.

I was curious to see how that went.

And

I was with you.

I was watching that video like, holy shit.

How many guys do that today?

How many guys are punters?

and kickers and the kickoff like is that that's that's very rare i think yeah now remember i retired at 29 staring down my fourth knee

i kind of blew this thing out you know

I maxed the legs out.

But in there, it said I had 51 starts or something like that for West Virginia.

And at the time, it was like the most, I forget, like it was like nationally ranked for amount of games and amount of starts and everything.

And I'm a kicker, so is it even a real start?

Because it's not first play.

That's a whole conversation.

This dude having 64 starts.

Is that what you said?

64 starts with 2,111 pass attempts.

And see, you know, Pat, I think at that position,

for obvious reasons,

that allows the guy who's a rookie who on the NFL, it moves so fast, which it does.

But I just,

if you go back and look in the last 10 or 15 years, look at the guys that started for three years plus and look at how they were.

Now, chances are, still, it's tough to make it in the NFL for these quarterbacks, but the guys that have the best chance are like anybody.

You do something more often.

You see more coverages, you make more mistakes, you learn from those mistakes, and you got me that time.

I'm going to get you the next time.

And I really think,

I'll tell you, jumping right into the deep end going up against that Minnesota defense in the scheme.

But that's going to be a great game to watch, just to watch Dylan Gabriel go out and see how he can execute.

9.30 a.m.

Hopefully it's not a blowout.

We're waking up with you over there.

And hopefully Greg Olson's back on the call.

He was awesome on Sunday morning.

We got a good cash right now.

It feels like Calling Games.

Some people are getting attacked weekly.

But, you know, it feels like the shot clock is on for everybody.

Let's talk about the game tonight.

Go ahead, Ty.

Yeah, Herbie, I think a lot of us are surprised that the Niners are eight and a half point dogs tonight to the Rams.

But from talking to Kyle Shanahan, what have you heard from him on not only the amount of injuries that they're going to be dealing with tonight, but also Mac Jones starting under center again?

Yeah, I mean,

think about, you know, take your team, the Packers, and imagine taking down.

And I know you guys have had to deal with some injuries, but I don't know if I've ever seen a team that's decimated by injuries more than the 49ers, not just this year, but the last four or five years.

You know, they've had such a great window here with such talented players, and it just feels like Devo's now in Washington.

Some of these guys are

getting older.

Has the window, is it beginning to close?

And then this year, you know, it starts off early with Kittle being down.

Hopefully, he'll be back in a week week or so.

Now, you got Ricky Pearsall, who's kind of become their number one receiver, down.

You got Ayuk, who's already been down all year.

And then you got Brock Purdy, who was dealing with that turf toe, a different level of turf toe than Joe Burrow.

They thought, you know, you guys saw him try to come back last week, re-aggravated it, short week.

So they're going to go back to Mac Jones, who was dealing with his own injury himself with a knee, but thankfully he's able to go.

He's 2-0, by the way, as a starter this year.

And so he'll get the opportunity.

But you're talking about Demarcus Robinson, who's a former Ram, who's going to be one of his go-to guys tonight.

You're talking about Kendrick Bourne,

who Mac Jones played with in New England.

And you got backup tight ends.

The good news is Christian McCaffrey

is there.

So I wouldn't be shocked to see him try to carry the offense tonight, not only running the ball, which has been, by the way, kind of an Achille feel for Sam Fran.

You know, it's a matter of time till Kyle and this offense will get the run game going.

Hopefully, it starts tonight.

But even if they can't, look for him.

Look for Christian involved in the past game, obviously, to just the more weapons they can get on the field that they know what they can do, the better.

Meanwhile, they're going up against a Rams defense.

You could argue is playing as well as anybody right now in the whole NFL.

I mean, we always think of the Rams, we think of Sean, we think of Stafford, we think of offense.

But this defense, post Aaron Donald, the way that Lesneed, their GM,

and Sean have gone out through the draft and free agency, their D-lines playing as well as anybody in the league,

creating all kinds of problems so they can play zone.

That forward does all the work.

Everybody else has their eyes on the football.

So

they definitely have their hands full.

But like the Dolphins and the Bills a couple weeks ago, you just, you never know, man.

Just when it looks like Sam Friend has no chance, it wouldn't shock me at all to see them somehow rally around that theme of no chance and play well.

Shanahan as an underdog to McVay, is seven and two against the spread.

How about that?

So

as an underdog against McVay, now against everybody else, he kind of stinks.

When he's an underdog, it's basically like the sports books are on.

But against McVay, Shanahan's seven and two against the spread as an underdog.

It started at three on the 28th of September.

Now we're on October 2nd.

It's at 8.5 because of all the injuries.

You talked there a little bit about one of the weapons on San Francisco that they didn't have last year.

But the running back position as a whole is kind of having a little bit of a resurgence here.

Go ahead, Conman.

Yeah, Herbie, I'm pretty worried about CMC.

He's the leading receiver and leading rusher, and they don't have, I believe, or sorry, he's second in receiving, first in rushing, and they don't have Piersall, who's first, and Jennings, who's third.

So I'm kind of thinking CMC might get 55 touches and tackled 65 times somehow.

What do you think about the running backs in this game?

Do you think this is going to be kind of a run the ball because the 49ers are going to be so focused on Puka and Devontae or how do you see this matching up?

Does that mean take the under?

Is that what you're saying?

Under.

Also, hold on.

There's a stat here.

The last 10 times or nine times that Shanahan's underdog to McVay, the under is hit seven and three.

Six and three.

Six and three, the under is as Shanahan is underdog against McVay.

Underdog has hit six and three.

Six and three.

You got all kinds of good stuff.

It feels like that, Connor.

I think a lot of people at local media and Sam Fran are really all over Kyle and the offense about the run game.

You know, we always think about you guys as a great running team and you haven't been able to get it on track.

And I've heard some of the players in Kyle talk about, you know, we're very close.

It's all 11 guys, you know, whether it's guys that work in a double team or the back finding the right hole or receivers blocking.

You know, it's kind of a collective effort when it works and when it doesn't, same issue.

But we all know, even with these injuries at receivers, really a matter of time until you can get Chris McCaffrey on track.

Like I said earlier, hopefully if that happens, the one thing to

remember watching this game, the Rams defense in their first four weeks, the opponents are averaging third and like 9.4, basically third and 10.

If that happens tonight, if that trend happens tonight, it's going to be a really tough night

to throw the football if you get those obvious passing situations.

The beauty in running, if they can get it going, is you put Mac and Mac Jones

more of a play action game and throw on your terms.

So that'll be a big thing tonight.

But the backs on the other side that you alluded to, Connor, Kyron Williams, very, very underrated back,

in my thought anyway.

Oh, yeah.

Just brings a personality and a toughness that seems to kind of resonate and really kind of provide some juice for the entire team.

But he doesn't get talked about much because of obviously Matthew Stafford and Puka and Devontae Adams.

But I really think you go back to the Super Bowl in 21, that team to now, that was more of a shotgun, Odell Beckham spread people out, let Stafford work.

And I think they've evolved to become more of a blow you up, run downhill, under center, physical, and then play action to Puka and those guys with Stafford.

So the backs on the other side, and Blake Corbin, the young man out of Michigan, is doing a hell of a job along with Tyron Williams.

So

it's a physical.

Physical game typically between these two teams.

And the Rams, I think, have a lot of confidence in that style.

Yeah,

I believe in McVay mightily.

Believe in Shanahan, too.

I have like that kind of natural thing.

And then people throw stats in my face

all the time.

Kill Shanahan.

All the time.

People throw stats about Shanahan all the time.

Because when they have bad years, it's real bad.

And it brings down all the others.

It's one or the other.

Yeah, exactly.

And it's like, I'm like, I believe in Shanahan.

Man, I saw him look real cool at a beach house, throw the football across a little garbage can.

I'm like, I like him.

I love Shanahan.

I'm with you.

Both these guys, both these guys are as innovative as we have in the NFL.

They have been for years.

And I think they really love competing against each other and just kind of finding out.

And Kyle Shanahan, I don't know, he goes into this game.

It's like, oh, everyone's hurt.

They have no chance.

I don't know, man.

I think this is one of those games where he's like, my scheme's pretty good.

I've got a lot of confidence.

in what we can do.

And yeah, it sucks that we got all of our Pro Bowl players are down, but we still got some guys, you know, so I don't know.

I wouldn't be surprised to see them rally around, you know, some of that doubt that's kind of people are already assuming, okay, that's another loss.

So they're four or whatever it is, three and two.

So move on to the next game.

I don't know, man.

I think they'll come out and swing.

I believe we lost power here to our lights at the Thunder, and we are back.

Okay.

Okay.

Shout out to the uninterrupted power source

coming in.

We got pretty interrupted, but also we are still live.

Still live on YouTube.

We're still live, which is great.

Kirk, you were sending so much good shit that electricity kind of double-crossed itself and kind of tore it.

Hey, you talked our lights out.

It was Peter.

It was Peter.

I love that.

How about Pete?

Chilling.

Pete, you had an article written about you and your dad being a fucking dog handler.

This guy's got ads.

Did you see his ads?

Yo, Peter is the right one, if it means anything.

He is, this dude's paws are bigger than your hands.

His paws are bigger than your hands.

He is,

hey, go boy.

Good boy.

Think about people turning on their

barking at him.

But I agree with everything you're saying about Shanahan.

I literally do.

But if you say it too loud in public around the wrong people, they're going to pull out 100 stats that are going going to say, Shanahan, hey, McVay.

I don't want to hear it.

So just know that before tonight.

Tell Al we said we'd talk about it.

He's 10-7 against Sean in lifetime.

Okay, it's another good stat.

These are all good stats.

These are all good stats.

Let's talk about some of the other teams around the NFL.

Obviously, teams that you have seen.

Go ahead, Tone.

Yeah, Herbert, you're on a bit of an NFC West tour.

Last week, you had the Cardinals and Seahawks, and the Seahawks kind of, you know, they kind of had control of a lot of that game last week.

And now this week, they have Tampa coming up to Seattle, which is one of the better games this weekend how do you feel about the Seahawks as a whole and then this weekend because tell you what I watched them play the Steelers too that they look like a good football team

so I've had a chance to see Green Bay and Washington I've had a chance to see Buffalo and then you mentioned last week having a chance to see Seattle

I tell you what I It's going to depend on if Sam Darnold continues to play the way he did last year, the way he's looked so far this year.

If they stay healthy, obviously.

Of all those teams, Buffalo feels like, you know, they're, because of Josh Allen, they're up there.

Green Bay feels really good.

I could easily see a Buffalo-Green Bay Super Bowl.

That'd be a fun one if they can stay healthy.

Seattle is dangerous, man.

What a great matchup.

Baker Mayfield and that offense going up against that Seattle defense.

What's weird is Seattle wins on the road with Mike McDonald.

They can't win at home.

It's the craziest thing.

Like, you would think the 12s, Seattle, you can't go in there and win.

That's not been the case at all.

They've been Road Warriors.

I think they've only lost one on the road since he's been there.

But at home, they can't put it together.

But I think Seattle is for real.

I think this NFC West is, depending on Sam Fran, if they can get healthy.

But the Rams, I think, can't wait to see them in person tonight in this game because the way they've looked up to this point, and anytime Stafford's healthy, and you've got Sean McVay and Puka and all that offense but their defense is playing lights out so NFC is a lot of fun not just the NFC West the entire NFC it's going to be a hell of a run uh as we move along this season yeah late late year football is going to be electrifying in the NFC West McDonald has won how many of how many nine of his first 10 road games that's pretty good that's pretty good mental toughness man one on the road that's pretty good mental toughness remember last year the Seattle Seahawks the 12s you're talking about we all are big fans of they gave up their stadium a couple different times Oh, yeah.

They had lost faith.

Yeah, yeah.

They lost their stadium twice.

Buffalo Bills went in there and stole it.

I think on a Monday night football, Bills Mafia went in there and stole it.

And the Packers, I think, went in there and stole it.

I think the Seattle Seahawks fans did a lot of like, you're going to have to show us, buddy.

You kick Pete Carroll out of town.

You kick Geno out of here.

You're going to have to figure it out.

I think he's the right guy.

I think we all.

You better get on that bandwagon fast because they're going to win a lot of games this year.

Not all Seahawks fans.

I would like to make sure that's clear.

They're still very much an active Seahawks fan base, but we saw their stadium get stolen twice last year, and that never happens.

They're like our representative in the NFL.

Hey, what's stadium?

Cincinnati or Nashville, you know, that's, that's a regular occurrence, but not in Seattle.

That can't happen.

Whenever, let's say a hooligan's over here from York,

give us your best atmospheres.

We're going college.

We're heading to

college.

You saw the whiteout.

First time in your life.

That was.

I was going to say it, but that's strictly five days ago in my life.

Well, Well, that's aside from West Virginia.

And then

people, people,

people kind of,

when you're in the SEC and you say you got to go to the whiteout,

no,

that's, that, that's not, I'm like, I'm telling you, the whiteout and that Penn State student section, who I think is the best student section in the country, they, they drive it.

So I think the whiteout is right there.

And I think LSU at night, when they have a good team playing against a good team, that's obviously right up there.

And I think Nealon Stadium, I think we forgot how good of a spot that is in Knoxville.

Now that Josh has them back up competing and chasing playoffs, that is a really tough environment, intimidating environment.

So those are three for me.

What about you?

I think I'm on your side there.

I think you know more.

But in the NFL, it's Seattle is who we're throwing out there.

Pittsburgh, Seattle, Green Bay, New England when they're rolling.

Baltimore.

Philadelphia, like those cities, but the Seattle Seahawks ones are the ones that have always been like our rep.

30 seconds here before a heart out.

Alabama, Vandy, how cool is this for Vandy to have this moment?

And also,

before I flew out here, Pat, I visited with Diego Pavia just for a feature for game day this week.

And man,

are we allowed to go to Tuscaloosa and pick Vandi?

We're not allowed to do that.

I'm telling you, I've been talking to him a little bit too in the DMs, and I thought

there's no

fear.

And Clark Lee, I'm like, holy cow.

These dudes are for real.

Now, Bama's coming off a massive win last week, as we know, in Athens.

So they got a ton of momentum.

I feel like their quarterback really grew up, became his team.

So I think Bama, obviously, a team to beat, but do not laugh.

This is not the old Vandy.

These boys are for real, and that quarterback

is coming off.

Coming in pissed off at the world.

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Football.

Here's the greatest.

We're so thankful we get a chance to chat about it, but it's not just football.

On this glorious week five NFL kickoff Thursday, baseball is actually showing up for us in a huge way as well.

Yesterday we had Schwarbo, who's playing for Philadelphia Phillies.

He's a monster and hilarious.

32 years old.

He's going to sign another $7 trillion deal.

He's hitting bombs for the rest of his life.

I like that he has a great attitude and is funny.

Cal Raleigh, the

MLB's leading home run hitter, joined us yesterday.

And then last night, one of the most electrifying baseball games I've seen in some time between their biggest rivalry, Red Sox and the Yankees, took place.

Shout out to baseball happening in a big way for us on these middle of the week days that has been happening.

Tonight, though, is week five of the NFL season.

Hell yeah.

The Rams host the Niners.

The Niners have a bevy of players

on the injured list.

It's a Thursday night, it's a quick turnaround.

And if your guys miss on Thursday night, they get an entire week and then almost another week.

So you got a two-week kind of rehabilitation recovery that you could potentially get for some players.

So we've seen Thursday night opt-outs more often than Sunday opt-outs.

With that being said, Brock Purdy misses a game, sandwiched by playing a game poorly.

Will he become a guy that we know him to be after this toe injury?

Or will Mac Jones thrust himself into the primetime spotlight as an eight and a half point dog on the road and slice and dice a very good Los Angeles Rams defense?

So many different storylines can come from tonight's game.

We cannot wait to watch the NFC West do battle.

The toxic tables here at Boston Connor at Ty Schmidt.

Yesterday, Con Man, I saw a World Series champion hat on.

You guys lose last night.

You just represent the city with the hat.

I like the move, Ty.

Don't you, Ty?

Yeah, I love that hat.

Yeah, just like, remember, city of champions is what he's trying to say.

What he's trying to do.

Because the Red Sox yesterday World Series hat because he came in here dancing on the Yankees.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Rightly so.

Then they lose to the Yankees in a thriller last night.

He comes in with just like, hey, don't forget.

City is sick.

Yeah, it's not just the baseball team that we're worried about.

Are you worried about the Red Sox?

And are we back to Patriots season because of how last night went, even though there's still another game?

Yeah, I don't know if I'd say I'm worried about the Red Sox because I watched the first four innings and then forgot the game was on.

And then it was the ninth inning all of a sudden.

I actually talked to Connor last night.

Dorian game.

FaceTime.

I'm sitting with my wife, Okay.

I'm not a baseball person.

My wife is somehow less of a baseball person than I was before we started getting into baseball this year.

Sure.

And we're captivated.

Socks, Yankees, like we are too.

So I call Connor to talk to Connor about, like, yo, this is actually pretty sick.

Connor goes, well, the game's still on.

I'm like,

Connor,

that cannot be how this is.

You had some other stuff, obviously.

Ideas were working.

I appreciate you doing that.

Last night's game was awesome.

Yeah.

I mean, it legitimately was.

And the Yankees wouldn't tough one is good for the Yankees, or do you because there's many moments last night where I thought you guys were out, like the Mets, like the Mets actually just got a couple-day head start on the offseason over the Yankees, as opposed to last night?

I thought it was over a couple different times.

Did you feel that way as well?

And then your big stars come through for you.

Is that good news for the Yankees if you're a Yankees fan?

Yeah, without a doubt.

I mean,

we've seen these games for the most part outside of the Dodgers Red Series.

Like, these games are all close.

They all have been because

none of the bottom-of-the-roster guys are playing.

The Red Sox last night used one of their best guys in the bullpen who didn't pitch the night before.

The Yankees

used their guys.

And

this is what it's all about.

You can't win a World Series if a guy like Judge or for the Red Sox, Trevor Story or Alex Bregman.

You can't win unless those guys perform.

It just doesn't really happen.

So yeah, I mean, it's another one of those things where it's weird because typically baseball doesn't come down to one game to decide your season.

You know, you have like the, but this is it, you know, so, and they've kind of both thrown their better guys.

So both of the guys who are starting in this game.

I hate it.

I hate that the Yankees socks is at 808.

Socks.

Got to be.

I understand that's how you feel.

Daddy's playing.

Okay.

Daddy is playing its league.

We all have multiple views.

You know, it's like you can figure out a way to watch both things.

Oh, you think of time and prime?

What am I doing?

I'm not able to do it.

That's the thing.

I thought it's that move it to six.

Why is this thing not on at six o'clock?

That's the one thing with Prime that stinks.

So yeah, you might have to put Prime on a smaller TV or watch it on, you know, heaven forbid, you might have to watch it on your cell phone while you're watch what?

Watch a football game.

Oh, no,

no, okay.

Gumpy knows.

He knows.

Sometimes you got to do it.

Okay.

Dude, God made more of these opportunities.

Okay, I understand.

I appreciate that.

They started yesterday at 6.08.

And I didn't love that.

You didn't love it?

No.

I loved it.

I mean, I would have loved it.

It was so good.

I think it was over 9.30 or something.

Yeah, I know.

And honestly, I hadn't thought about that yet.

It was like, you know, wow.

I'm going to be going to bed at like one tonight.

But I would have been anyway because of Thursday night football.

So it's not a big.

And it's funny you mentioned that because for a second there, I did forget um that tonight's game is on prime so you can't you can't just do the old you know

split views they got to figure that out they got to figure that out YouTube TV okay Google needs call Amazon yeah from my understanding they are certainly willing to work together of course yeah I think

there's a couple of them

watch playoff baseball on football games they night come on for the good of sports Google it part of the fangs

group that is all trying to compete with each other in there right we need Amazon and Google to put their swords aside on Thursday nights if the Yankees are playing the Red Sox and let us quad box Amazon in.

Please.

Exactly.

Let us add one in there so that we can enjoy this thing.

Instead, Amazon's going to have us do what they do every single Thursday night, force us to live on their platform and

watch these commercials where everything else that we watch, we can just go somewhere else.

But instead, I hope they're charging more.

for their commercials.

I've told this to the powers that be at Amazon.

Hey, the thing I hate about you guys is I can't go anywhere.

Yeah.

I'm stuck during the commercial breaks.

We can go look at what else is available.

Of course.

Of course, I could do that.

Would be nice to be able to just hit the old back arrow button and go right over to the Red Sox and Yankees

in an elimination game.

Can't do that though.

Gotta go out of here.

Gotta sign into you.

I gotta do the entire thing.

So Amazon has us in that case.

So they need to be charging more for their commercials because I'm forced to sit through them.

The only commercials I really see

the Amazon ones.

Forced to.

Yeah.

You're right.

I think that's where I saw the ass MC DC commercial, right?

Is that where I saw that?

Probably.

That's where I saw that one.

I don't really get to see a lot of commercials these days because they're archaic and stupid and the 30-second ad does not work.

You know, you kind of

linear people who got it all figured out.

One half of the hammer.

Died.

Cowboys AP Tone is here.

Big one tonight.

What's the percentage of money here on who?

I was actually shocked.

It's only 52% on the Rams.

Let me make sure it hasn't changed.

No, or 53% now on the Rams at home.

Probably because the number is so big.

And, you know, I personally think a lot of the general public doesn't find out about these injuries until game time.

They turn on the TV and they're like, oh shit, I bet on the Niners.

And they don't have any of their wide receivers tonight.

But yes, right now it's just 53% Rams.

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Tell a friend that's gambling out there that there's injuries happening.

Joining us now from an Attic in Ohio is a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner, and now a Hoffnom.

Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hoff.

Dude, that looks that haircut haircut looks so good.

So good, dude.

Yeah.

Looks so cool.

You got to shape one, I think.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, I don't know.

I think it's going to take a little bit of time.

How about you talking about commercials?

How about the YouTube TV where it says, enjoy your Zen, and there's no commercial.

You guys have to do that?

So great.

I almost fall asleep.

Love it.

We can't sell that space or what are we doing?

Well, I think they're potentially trying to sell that space, but their time might not match up perfectly with whatever the network's time is for commercials.

That's like,

I think Rich Eisen is the last person I saw had to do it.

He had a radio out, a TV out,

and like some other out.

Do you remember those days whenever shows had to do that?

Like we're back.

Wouldn't they be doing it?

Yeah, oh, yeah.

As they're going off the camera when they're simulcast, they're reading an ad for the radio show that they're doing.

Yeah.

And I guess

I don't know how or why YouTube TV has more space.

Maybe it's because the local ads don't run on YouTube TV.

So those are like the 30-second local ads that maybe don't get sold or don't happen or whatever it is.

So that moment is in is pretty nice.

It's nice, It is.

It's pretty nice.

A company should think about buying ad space and calling it

from

presented by

whoever.

Right.

That'd be a good one.

It would be.

Because I love that moment of Zen.

I do too.

I do.

And I immediately just look at my phone.

Sweet.

I'm not going to do that.

Yeah, yeah.

Can you put a countdown on this thing?

Can you give me a countdown for how long I know him?

Somebody's in it.

I know he's working for somebody, but for me, it's my daughter's got something going on where I need to do something here.

But tonight, big one, Jay.

AJ, Rams, niners niners very injured a lot of stats coming out that shanahan plays mcvay very well fred's still playing on defensive side mccorkle jones obviously is potentially in the middle of a mid-career resurgence that we have seen a lot of players have as of late and then christian mccaffrey still exists so what are your thoughts on how this game goes and eight and a half is a lot of points brother Yeah, that's the first thing I thought of.

Eight and a half is a bunch of points, but then I started thinking of that Rams defense, and I love what their D-line does.

I like how they run at all three levels.

So I would say right now I might be leaning Rams, but I am not 100% confident in that pick yet.

I don't know who I'm going to pick by the end of the program, but I still think the Niners, I think the Niners still could possibly keep it close.

That's why I'm not fully decided.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a Super Bowl champion, a man who is obviously one of the greatest Yensers of all time, like David Bednor.

Yeah, sure.

Yeah.

Closer for the Yankees.

Did you hear this, AJ?

This guy.

Get rid of him.

Why wouldn't you get rid of him?

Why would the Pirates want him?

They got a haul back back from the Yankees, too.

Oh, we always get hauls, brother.

We know exactly what to do with hauls.

I'm just kidding.

They didn't.

It was panned big time.

They're like, Jesus Christ, the Yankees just threw them three bums from the farm system and they gave them their all-star closer.

What the hell's going on?

Joining us now is a man that would not have made that decision for the city of Pittsburgh.

Okay?

Guy who most recently was the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.

Before that, he was the head coach of the Green Bay Packers.

I think he spent time at the San Francisco 49ers.

And hell, he might have been a barkeep at some place in Pittsburgh while he was growing up.

Ladies and gentlemen, our coach, Coach Mike McCarthy.

Coach, how's it going?

It's going great.

Good afternoon, man.

Did you see that Yinzer last night?

Did you see that Jinzer last night?

No, I missed it.

I apologize.

No, it's baseball.

Not a lot of people see it, but their numbers are up, though, to be clear.

Bednar, David Bednar, Yinzer, closer for the Yankees, okay?

Beginning of this season.

He was closer for the Pittsburgh Pirates, made the all-star game, has Renegade as his his walkout music.

And of course, that Pirates owner coach says, get this guy the hell out of here.

Who's going to pay this guy if he continues to be this good?

Now he's wild card winning games for the New York fucking Yankees.

And he still comes out to Renegade, coach.

He comes out to Renegade.

And the reason why he said he had to do it, because there was certainly some discussion.

Renegade, obviously, the Pittsburgh Steelers song in the fourth quarter.

Oh, mama, I'm in fear for my life from the long

arm of the low.

Boom, boom.

There was a lot of conversation about like, you can't take that to New York.

What are you doing, buddy?

And then he said, all right, I'll get rid of it.

And then he laid down at night and he's pillow talking with himself.

Every time the song comes on, I take a James Harrison.

Just take somebody's head off.

I have to keep that as my song.

This guy is a super Jinser, was on the Pirates.

They said, get him the hell out of town.

Coach, that's part of the problem, but I think we should respect Jinser for doing his thing on the biggest stage.

Don't you agree?

No, absolutely.

I mean, hey, once a Jenser, always a Yinzer.

You got to love that.

No question.

Did you see what the other Jenser relief pitcher did last night?

No.

Yesterday?

Mason Miller?

What do you do?

Threw 104.

We went two scoreless.

Did he pretty good?

Can we just keep?

No, he was never on the Pirates.

Oh, I was going to say, geez.

Come on.

I was talking.

He was on the eighth.

This is a Yinzer?

Where's he from?

He's from Bethel Park.

Oh, really?

Bet Norris from Mars.

He used to go part time.

The owner of the Pirates had no fucking idea this guy existed.

Okay, anyways, let's move.

Let's talk a little ball here, Coach.

Let's talk a little football here.

We're heading into week five of the season.

I think injuries have starting to really take over some teams, like the Niners tonight, which we'll definitely dive into at some point.

But week five, obviously, it's October now.

You talk about Thanksgiving being one of matters.

What do coaches know by week five?

Like, what do you think coaches are thinking at this point as we're done with the first quarter of the season and now we're trying to navigate the rest here, coach?

Well, I think just like anything, you know, you've already touched on injuries.

I mean, you know, every year you're going to fight injuries.

It's just a matter of how many,

you know, when they, you know, when they come, and then, and who, you know, obviously what position.

Sometimes you get overloaded.

And, you know, if you go right to San Francisco, I mean, it's to have this many this fast.

I mean, it's, that's a difficult challenge

without a doubt.

But I think when you get out of September football, I mean, in my opinion, I've always felt that September football is a little sloppier.

You know, you've got the training regiment with the new CBA.

You don't really get to, you know, train as much in certain aspects that you really don't find out about your team

until you really get into these regular season games.

So, you know, I'm talking more about the fundamentals and so forth and run defense, running the ball, pad level, footwork, you know,

the fits, the communication on defense, all those things kind of get.

So I think we're clearly when you get past those four games, you know, you obviously you have tendencies, rules are more and more defined, a little more clear for your players.

You know, you may think that, you know, sometimes you get into games where you're heavy two-minute offense and you're playing more 11-personnel where you wanted to be more 12 and 21.

So, you know, you got things that are going on in that first four weeks.

So it is always, I've always felt week five and six is usually a time where you're looking to hopefully schematically shift some gears and move away.

Because when I look at schematic football, you know, I use your baseball analogies here.

You know, you always want to establish your fastballs and your your curveballs, but then now you start to change ups and things like that.

So I think that those things start to come into light when you get out of September and you get into this phase.

But injuries, it's just, they're always going to be there.

And when you have a bunch early, it is challenging because now your younger players are playing probably a little earlier than you want them to play.

We actually got into this a little bit last year in Dallas.

And I think, but, you know, the benefit is in the long run, but these younger players are getting ready for November, December football.

And history will tell you that your young players are going to be playing in some of the biggest games of the year at the end of the season.

When it matters most there, and you have to reestablish what your fastball is whenever you have a new cast of characters, especially at important positions.

I mean, that is quarterback being the most important.

Like, what is our fastball now with McCorkle Jones at quarterback, let alone everybody else?

Then we start getting our curveball, then we get the sweeper, the splitter, the sinker.

You know, then we start working the jerk.

You know what I'm saying?

Like Dave Bednoor does.

Yeah, And then another guy from Pittsburgh.

Mason Miller.

Man, May Miller, this guy.

He's got absolute heat, but you're right.

Establishing who the hell you are is certainly a benefit.

But then whenever you get injuries, it's like, well, who are we now?

It's like an ever-changing situation.

Injuries, 100%,

right?

Every team.

You just got to hope it's not at a key position.

Is that what every coach in GM is doing?

Like, we know injuries are coming.

We just pray to the football gods that it's not at like one of our pillar positions.

Is that an accurate kind of feel that you guys all have whenever you go into a season?

Well,

I think the obvious is, you know, certain positions are affected more by change than others.

And that's just, you know, that's just the natural part of the game of football.

But you really don't want to see anybody

have serious injuries, you know, significant injuries where it could affect their, you know, the whole season or a significant amount of time.

So that's really the, you know, I know what I'd always hope for because I mean, it's the fact of the matter,

it's a violent game.

Players are going to go through the injury phases.

They go through it in their career.

So, I mean, it's really part of the game.

Availability is the most important ability, and that's the fact of the matter.

And especially in today's football,

with the way things are set up, the best thing that can happen to any football team, especially a young football team, is they get to practice every day together and they line up and play every day together,

particularly through September, because that's how you build that connection and get the momentum.

You got to find, you got to learn how to win sometimes when you're dealing with a younger team, and then you get on a roll.

But yeah, the injury part of it, it's there, and it's challenging, especially for these two teams playing tonight.

I mean, when you have the injuries on a short week, I mean, that really manifests itself even more.

Niners go from a three-point dog to an eight and a half-point dog as the injury report continues to roll out.

Go ahead, AJ.

Coach, speaking of that, like with injuries, when a team, especially in offense, is ravaged by injuries, has a lot of injuries, maybe have a backup quarterback playing.

Can you explain what it means when coaches say they're going to like dial down the game plan?

They're going to shrink the game plan and make it easier, I guess, for, say, a backup quarterback.

I'm not saying they need to do that for Mac, but is that something that coaches will, like, how do you do that?

How do you scale back when you have to put somebody else in that doesn't have much experience?

Or Thursday night game plans in general.

I think just kind of all of that kind of going into one.

Yeah, I mean, just I'll start with the Thursday night game plan.

Personally, I've always put in more in the previous week, you know, and anticipate the carryover that you'd have from, you know, the Sunday game into the Thursday.

So, because, you know, you want to, you still want to have enough volume to be able to have the flexibility throughout the course of the game.

So, but yeah, as far as dummy, I mean, really, it depends on who your quarterback is, frankly.

I just think that, you know, now we get into the design of the quarterback room.

Do you have a true veteran, you know, quarterback that's with experience?

Is the profile of the quarterback, the backup quarterback, you know, physically and his attributes are aligned with, you know, with the starter, which I always preferred.

So, because you definitely want to make sure you're giving your offensive personnel the opportunity still to be successful and contribute to the team.

I think the biggest thing is the complimentary football value goes up even higher when you get to your backup quarterback.

It's just, you know, the ability for the offense to play to the defense and vice versa and field position and those types of things.

You know, just the emphasis on time of possession, really the vitals of any game, taking care of the football.

You know, just as far as you can, you know, I think just like anything in life, you get what you emphasize.

Mac Jones, first love, Shanahan, number three overall pick.

Let's straight away everything.

If he has another incredible game, is this toe injury?

We're going to wait.

We're going to wait until this toe injury is 100% with Brock Purdy.

How much does the coach understand about the potential drama?

outside of a building with this type of stuff, especially at the quarterback position.

Brock Purdy comes back, still injured, doesn't look great last week.

Mac Jones, two weeks ago, looked unbelievable.

If he was to look great again tonight, that's good for the team.

I think having two good quarterbacks is obviously a great thing.

But do you have to think about the drama?

Like, are you reaching out to Brock, letting him know he's our guy?

Like, how does that kind of get managed by a head coach, knowing that there's going to be shit outside talking about what you need to not get inside?

Yeah, I think the noise is something you're really working on and managing every single day.

It's based on how you interact daily, how you communicate daily.

That quarterback room, I'm sure, is very, very close.

I've never been in one that isn't.

So, yeah, I don't think that drama is something that's really dealt with in the room.

And if it is,

then you probably got to look at the things that have led up to that point in time.

It's part of the game.

And the fact that, you know, they'll be able to stay right in rhythm with how they want to play conceptionally, how they want to play against the Rams, you know, which

as we know, the Rams defense is a big challenge.

So

I wouldn't be thinking about that.

And personally, I wouldn't be thinking about that at all.

And And I'm sure Brock is helping Mac get ready for the game.

And that's the type of quarterback rooms I've always been a part of.

Thinking about that at all is a good thing for a Yenser to say.

Yeah, I just want to let you know.

I want to add that to mine.

To mine, I'm going to say thinking about it all is a pretty good

little bit of a run there if you drop into some Yens room.

I love that.

I feel like I'm learning about myself while talking to you.

It's a beautiful thing.

Talk about quarterback.

Go ahead.

You're on fire today, brother.

You're the one that's on fire out there.

I know you get some of that coffee you're drinking.

That's the shit.

Oh, brother.

Every day, you know,

you got me sitting up.

It's coffee.

It's not just the coffee smoking.

Well, you can go there.

Well, I did try to give you some.

Yeah.

Well done, Bennett.

That's right.

Thank you.

I appreciate it.

You take the offer.

You did.

You were very kind.

I was like, huh?

Yeah.

It was obviously a good moment in our relationship.

You talk about quarterback rooms being tight, though.

Let's talk about that a little bit more because it's on display, I think, in Cleveland.

Go ahead, Connor.

Yeah, coach, right now, Dylan Gabriel is getting the start for the Browns.

Shadir Sanders did an interview, and I'm just not realizing I was supposed to send it to you, and I did not.

But Shadur basically doesn't answer the question.

He just kind of mimes what he would say to the reporter's question.

Yeah, there it is.

We don't need audio because there really isn't any.

What do you think about this?

It's kind of tough just because they're both rookies.

They're both in the same class.

How can you handle this situation as a coach?

And then also, will this help Shador?

Because now he'll get more reps as the backup versus the starters.

So, he's not speaking there?

No, he's miming.

He's miming.

He's doing like a full-on.

Okay.

Good.

Very well done.

Great game.

So, Rex Ryan.

Yeah.

So, coach, this is where it came from.

So, Rex Ryan and many others were basically like, I don't want to hear from the third quarterback for the Browns, basically.

Like, hey, we don't need to hear.

That is basically what they said so the next time he had a camera in his face once again third string quarterback fifth round draft pick rookie has cameras in his face because he's shador sanders they knew that whenever he's coming into the building he decides not to make any sounds then everybody don't want to hear from me okay i'm not going to make any sounds good content creation i will say genius idea expert level trolling yeah he like phenomenal stuff here as a coach though stefanski obviously on the offensive side of the ball as well we haven't heard really dylan gabriel say anything negative joe flacco say anything negative kenny Kenny Pickett say anything negative.

Nobody in the locker room really.

It's all just outside noise.

But that quarterback room is a sacred place.

Dylan Gabriel, I think, has handled it very well.

And now he's having an opportunity to obviously play against a B.

Flores defense.

But how do you manage that type of stuff?

The word distraction gets tossed out a lot.

And obviously, it's a terrible word in the NFL and most professional sports.

How do you manage that, especially at the most important position in the most important room of the team?

Well, I mean, just seeing the video there live, I mean, my first reaction is, I i mean don't we all don't we have a sense of humor i mean i thought it was kind of funny personally

but um you know it's but i think really i know just being fortunate to be a head coach you know at the beginning uh back in 06 where you know really social media uh kind of you know really took off and aj will remember this situation we had we had a situation where a young rookie took a picture of josh sitting in a hot tub and um and then it hit social media so that was like the first time that i had to actually be educated on what exactly is social media, Instagram.

And so, and then you learn to deal with those things.

And so I do think it is a time and place deal.

Content is real.

I mean, I am very well experienced in content because I just worked at the content enterprise of the world the last five years prior to doing this great show with you, Pat.

So it's, it's very, you know, it's financially beneficial and there's definitely some gain in that.

So, I mean, that's so I look at that as from personal, but as a head coach, absolutely.

You don't want any any distractions.

And I do agree with Greg.

You don't want to hear about the

third stream quarterback.

But I think the really thing is the question is, you know,

what are they saying in Cleveland?

And, you know, I would think that, you know, going back to what I just said earlier, the quarterback rooms are, you know, quarterback rooms, offensive line.

I mean, some of those, those rooms are some of the closest rooms that I know that I've been able to witness over the last 30 years in this league.

So

as long as those guys are okay in the locker room, because the most important room in the organization is the locker room.

And I've always believed that.

And just as long as those guys are right, because it's all about the football.

I mean, we're going to laugh, and things are going to guys are going to do things.

Some guys will do something a little stupid and others that will cross the line.

But, you know, as long as it's not too far over the line, you pull them back in because you do want everybody to be themselves.

AJ, we used to talk about it all the time with the you leadership guys.

You know, we want the personalities of everybody and our locker room structure, rules, and how we want to operate within our culture.

We want everybody to be themselves because everybody will be the best version of themselves.

So,

and is that the first time it's ever happened, an interview without any audio?

You got to give them some kudos.

Multiple questions.

Multiple questions.

Yeah, so, but yeah,

I personally don't think that stuff's a huge deal

unless it's an issue in the locker room.

And I think you just, you know, I think like a lot of things in life,

we all probably need to learn how to laugh a little bit more.

So that's how it hit me when I first saw the video.

I love that.

AJ, he wanted everybody's personalities to show in a locker room.

Is that why you always flipped off the coaches after you made plays?

Could be.

Oh, he was flipping the coaches off.

I didn't realize that was a good thing.

That wasn't the coaches.

No, I told the story to track when I got called into your office, coach, in my towel.

Yeah, I had to tell you, no, this is an inside.

It's a joke where it's going on between, you know, myself and Winston Mawson, linebacker coach at the time.

No other coaches.

It was a joke.

We all laughed about it.

But, Coach, the locker room situation, you said a lot of people.

I don't know if we all laughed about it.

A new piece of information is coming through.

Coach, Mike wasn't laughing.

Guess what happened last time?

It was funny.

We laughed about it.

We did last night.

It wasn't caught on camera by CBS or whoever did it.

But, Coach, the locker room you mentioned, I know you made like an active effort to stay out of the locker room and kind of keep the coaches out of the locker room, not always walk through there.

Can you explain what that was about and why you did that?

Well, I just think like anything is that, you know, our facility grew there in Green Bay.

And,

you know, at that time, you know, back in 06, I just felt like you guys didn't really have your own space, you know, and, you know, everybody has beliefs about developing group dynamics, connection, and so forth.

And, you know, and there's just conversation

amongst players that, you know, hey, I know I'm a cool dude and you guys want to hang out with me all the time, but hey, I don't need to be there.

So, I mean, I thought, so, you know, I just felt that, you know, you guys needed your own space.

And if you remember back in, because I mean, you were with me from

day one, is that's when the access into the locker rooms with the media and everything kind of all went to a different level.

So, you know, I was always just very cognizant as, you know, when are these guys going to be able to be guys, you know, just be themselves?

Because, you know, it's a hard way to make a living, but it's, you got to have fun.

I mean, the game of football is fun.

What we do, working hard, grinding, and getting ready each week.

I mean,

there's a lot of joy and happiness that goes into that process.

And

that's where the whole belief of that came back in 06 was, you know, where are these guys going to be able to hang out and laugh and joke, you know,

during the breaks and so forth.

And it's amazing how it changed.

And I don't know if you feel this way.

I can remember the times when you did walk through the locker room in the earlier days, guys were, you know, a lot more interaction, talking.

And then as time went on in my career there, and it's the same, you know, I'm sure everywhere now, you know, you walk through the locker room and everybody's got their phone on.

No, no, you got to keep that away.

You got to have some, you're saying everybody.

Well, they got to have it.

You got it in the locker room?

You're saying everybody is turned into that.

This generation is turned into everybody kind of isolated.

Yeah, that's just that's hey.

I mean, it happens at home with my kids.

I mean, it happens when they get in the car.

So, I mean, I just think it's, you know, those things change.

So I think as a, when you talk about culture, the facility and how you want people to interact and all those, you know, you think about all those things, you know, we're, you know, not only the time and space, because, you know, we'll come five o'clock.

You know, some guys are going home to family, some guys, you know, everybody's got something different.

You know, I always loved it when you guys would get together, you know, away from home.

I mean, it's,

and really one of the things I ended up changing the schedule was away games was we left as early as we could and moved everything back a little bit because I wanted the players to go to dinner together, you know, on the road.

And I thought that was something that was very beneficial to our position groups and things like that.

So, yeah, that's, you know, that's just the way, you know, I've always thought about it is, you know, how you got to, you know,

everybody wants to talk about leadership and culture,

but my job is to create those opportunities for those things to happen organically.

That's it.

That's an incredible way to view it.

I obviously never got to play for a team that you coached, but scheduling a little bit earlier so that the boys have time to hang out is wonderful thought.

I think that is the key ingredient to winning.

I think is a team has to like each other.

I think they have to hang out.

AJ and I talk about this a lot.

The teams that I've been on that have been good, which is a lot of them, have gotten along.

Like, hey, you need to have friendships there.

So understanding that as a coach, I think, is a beautiful thing, genuinely.

And you talk about one of the biggest storylines of the entire NFL season.

Not really a lot of chatter from the locker rooms.

Mostly from owner and then one player and then media.

The biggest game of the century happened down in Jerry World this past weekend.

Some will call it the McCarthy Bowl.

Go ahead, guy.

Yeah, a lot of people were calling it the McCarthy Bowl, and it delivered on all accounts until, you know, we had a tie, and basically, you might as well not even play the game.

And it was a huge waste of time.

That's kind of.

You're saying not play the McCarthy Bowl?

We shouldn't even play?

Well, yeah,

after watching it, I was like, you know what?

Just give both these teams a loss.

This is bullshit.

We just wasted all this time.

This is not fair.

But, coach, what did you think of that game overall?

Do you think it lived up to all the hype?

Obviously, you know, Jerry was pretty jacked up that Michael didn't just completely destroy the game.

And then the ties.

You got to have some opinion on this, how we can maybe eliminate these from the game.

Just what are your thoughts on that whole situation in general?

B.A., B.A.

Yeah, yeah, BA.

Explain the BA one to the other.

Yeah, so B.A., we talked to him and he basically said, hey, the 10-minute overtime was because of me because we ran about 100 plays in a Cardinals game.

And

we wouldn't have been able to practice or play on Thursday if that would have been been the case.

So I said, hey, listen, we need a 10-minute overtime.

But his idea was, hey, both the offense, both offenses, you get one play from the eight-yard line against the other defense.

And then you go in.

If you score, obviously,

you know, the other team gets the opportunity.

If they score, you keep going until one person doesn't score.

And then we ultimately have a winner because it's not going to add a bunch of plays for guys.

And we should get a result pretty quickly.

Todd, that was a hell of a sermon.

I'll try to answer your six questions.

Come on.

Get them again.

First of off, come on.

It's a McCarthy bowl down there.

That's a big deal.

And it ended

in the worst possible way.

Come on.

It did.

Oh, no, I agree.

Yeah, I agree with that.

But,

well, the fact that it was a McCarthy bowl and they didn't invite my ass, that's bullshit.

That's the first time I heard of that.

I agree.

But I thought it was a great game.

I really did.

I think both teams have a lot of similarities.

They're young teams with arrows pointing up.

So

I was not surprised that it it was a close game at all.

I know the way it started

in the first half with everything was leaning towards Green Bay.

But the way

the battle back and forth, I thought it was a very entertaining game.

And I thought a lot of young guys stepped up and both teams having some injuries and so forth.

So I thought the game had everything you wanted except the ending.

And I do agree with the...

you know, the tie thing.

I mean, you definitely want to see a resolution where there is an opportunity to have a winner.

I know personally, I've had two ties as a head coach, and I think really,

and AJ, remember this in 2013, actually helped us because it came down to the division record and so forth.

So we were able to win the NFC North on an 8-7-1 record.

Battled through a ton of injuries that year in 13.

And then the second time was in 18,

we had a game, and actually both teams, both the ties were against the Minnesota Vikings, which is actually killing

my division win percentage, by the way.

I didn't want to do any of that.

So we had two division ties, but

in 18, but in 18, AJ, if you remember the game, it was really,

no, I'm sorry, but 18, it was early in the year, hot, went, you know,

crazy number.

And going to BA's point,

I think we had probably 80 plays on offense or 77 plays on offense.

We had a perimeter player that had probably the highest GPS number I've ever seen.

And then we go into the following week and we always adjusted the numbers and practice reps based off of the, you know, the GPS numbers and so forth.

And we had a situation in practice where this player, me and the assistant coach, and the player went on and saying, Peggy, you practiced too much during the course of the week.

And then the following Sunday had a fatigue injury in the game.

And I always, you know, that was one of those things about those.

you know, those overtime games and ties.

And, you know, Green Bay has the point I'm making is, you know, Green Bay has a bye week this week.

But, you know, I'm sure Dallas is being cautious with the guys that have those really high numbers because, and that's where, you know, BA was saying, I mean, because those players are at risk, you know, for fatigue injuries, and the training after an overtime game is, you know, is very important as you lean into that, not only in that following week, but the week after as far as the angulation, the peaks and valleys, how you train going into that game.

But yeah, that second tie against the Vikings on a noon game, hot day at Lambeau, you know, I always felt that that carried over.

And we lost a dynamic grooner player for, you know, a good four or six weeks on a fatigue injury.

Oh, so that is probably another thing that was stated whenever the 10-minute thing was brought up because it wasn't a 10-minute one.

It was nothing, and then it was a full quarter, then it was 10.

Now it's like, if you score a field goal, you can match.

It's like they've tried to get it right.

It feels like playoffs.

They're trying.

Playoffs, we always say, okay, we're playing until we get a winner.

Good.

That's how it should be.

And everybody wants it.

And then you hear BA and McCarthy both like,

we're trying to get through a fucking season.

So let's not, you know, because hockey, hockey will go like six, seven periods.

Oh, yeah.

That thing will just keep going.

And then those guys have a game like two days later.

And it's like, how do they even survive?

Football, there has to be an end, especially with the amount of contact and everything.

And Jerry Jones, we're up the three-hour window.

We need to make sure we stay in a three-hour window, okay?

Because we don't want one game interrupting another game.

And what our studies have told us, three hours optimal time for a game in there.

Obviously, Jerry has that answer.

And he also was quoted as saying, they got Michael, we got our guys, and we tied.

So let's move along with the questions that you were asking.

I don't like that you weren't invited.

You messed up.

No,

I think I could have got in if I needed to.

I'm just kidding.

Yeah, but we should have let you kick off that game.

Yeah.

You should have been doing a kickoff.

Coin toss.

Well, I just thought.

I'm talking kickoff.

Actually, kick off.

Yeah, actually doing a kickoff, you know, from both teams.

First kickoff.

We could have made some money off Jerry with his t-shirts and stuff.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, a little McAfee show on the top there.

Oh,

hey, yeah, we would have been paying Jerry for that one, I think.

So I don't know.

Money's coming or going there.

Jerry's seemingly always collecting.

You're going to get other right guys selling it for you.

Yeah, Landman.

You're right.

Got McCarthy going, Dyer.

I got a uniform I want to do the kickoff.

I got a tow thing I'm going to hit.

It's going to be great.

All right, Tony has a question for you about something not named the McCarthy Bowl.

Yeah, coach, I have a question about the Ravens who are not off to a good start, especially for their standards.

And I saw a tweet from Dan Orlofsky this morning who said they are the 32nd ranked team in rush attempts on first and second down.

They are not running the ball on first and second down.

When they do, they're running for six yards a carry.

And last year, Derrick Henry ran for almost 2,000 yards.

So my question is,

why do you think teams go away from things that are working,

especially the run game?

It feels like teams, the run game will be working and they go away from it.

And the Ravens specifically, he hasn't rushed for more than 50 yards in the last three games.

What do you think is going on with the Ravens in general?

Well, I mean, we're not seeing every game and going strictly through stats, but

I do think this.

I think you've got to really watch statistics.

in the first four weeks.

I've always waited to the fifth week to let things start to feel because you do get into crazy games.

You may have an overtime game that really pushes the stats offensive a lot higher than they probably really and no different for your defense.

So I think you do go watch that.

But I think we all do understand that the Baltimore Ravens, when we get the week 17, 8, they're going to be running on football.

So I think it's just probably a great reminder who they are,

your division that they're in.

But I think you have to look at the type of games they've gotten themselves into.

You know, when you go up against the Buffalo Bills and you get into shootouts and things like that, you know, sometimes those run attempts aren't what they should be.

And I know that personally from a play caller.

I've always

tried to adhere to the formula of ball distribution.

If you can get the ball distributed 55 times to your perimeter group with rushes plus completions,

you're doing your job as a play caller through the quarterback to get that ball distributed.

So I think that's something when you just go and pull that number out of there and say, oh, they're not rushing the ball enough.

You got to look at the whole picture.

So without sitting here knowing exactly what type of games they were in, were there high shootout games?

They were behind.

you know, all those things play into that.

But, you know, Baltimore is at their best when they're running and doing all those things

throughout John's career there.

So I think this is just more of a, it's been four weeks, and it's a great reminder,

you know, just to get back to who you really are.

He fumbles a couple of times, too.

They get all upset.

You got to punish them.

And I know a couple more he's trying to do.

He's trying to ruin score-up.

You know, that's what I'll score.

Jesus, you don't forget anything.

Yeah, pretty accurate.

I won't forget what you say about tonight's game.

Okay, NFC West here.

Now, I know you're not picking games because that's not, obviously,

I don't want to have that button press.

Y'all can't be doing that.

Of course.

Don't even know how it works, but if you were, you'd be doing really well.

You'd be doing really well right now if you were to be picking games.

Tonight, this thing started as a three-point spread.

It has moved over a matter of a few days to eight and a half.

That is huge for the NFL, but that's how many injuries have kind of been rolled out.

Mac Jones will be starting for the Niners again, taking on Matthew Stafford in a Rams offense.

That might be historic whenever it's all said and done with receiving.

Puka Nakua is leading everything.

If he was to stay on track right now, he would beat Calvin Johnson's record for receiving by 175 yards.

175 yards.

So he has a lot of room to kind of 175 is obviously a game.

He is ahead of a game at this point.

So they can certainly have a little bit of an off game and still be on track to break a record.

And then Devontae Adams, the number two wide receiver, he's getting to see defenses that he hasn't seen ever, probably, because of how good Puka is on the other side.

McVay, Stafford, force feeding Puka and Devontae Adams as well.

2-2 Atwell obviously had a long touchdown.

But other than Puka and Devontae.

The past distribution chart is heading directly to those two.

And then obviously the run game has to get going.

And Higby at tight end will get to rock every once in a while.

But they're not scared to throw to their stars.

How do you see tonight going against a beat-up Niners team at home for the Rams?

Division rivalry game, eight and a half points feels like a lot.

Are you going to go against your normal thoughts there, division game, or how do you kind of see it playing out this evening if you were to be picking the game?

Well, I think number one, I mean, I love the NFC West and just how competitive it is.

You know, obviously we had the game last week, and now you got the Rams and the 49ers tonight.

So,

yeah, there's a lot going on there.

I do think the Rams are playing really good football.

I love the way Sean matches the run

and the play action, action together in the early downs and the way they're dropped back.

I mean, I think Matthew Stafford's a Hall of Fame quarterback.

I've coached a lot of games against him, able to go against the Rams and training camp practices the last, you know, back, you know, back 24 and 23.

So you get a good feel for their personnel.

I think this guy, I always look, when I get these division games, I look at the trenches.

You know, I think you got two D lines that are probably two of the best defensive line coaches in the game.

So, and I really like what the Rams are playing up front.

You look at

all their scores.

The production of the offense has been very low.

They're doing a great job winning normal down to distance, first and second down.

So, I think that's going to be big tonight.

But, you know, you got to respect Kyle and his system.

And McCaffrey,

his success, you know, against the Rams, or

when he doesn't play, play, I think they're 0-3 when he doesn't play, but he's going to touch the ball a ton tonight.

I mean, I think that's going to be part of the method to deal with this.

I don't like eight points at all.

We said this a couple of weeks ago with division games.

I don't know.

I mean, it's your show.

Do we have to give up eight points here?

Eight and a half, actually.

Well, Coach, there's a seven and a half out there.

Oh, no, there's a seven and a half.

There's a seven and a half somewhere.

Well, I just think seven and a half points in a division game is, man, that's almost, that's sacrilegious there.

Really like the Rams right now.

I think they're playing really well.

Love what they're doing on offense.

I think their defensive front is dynamite.

There's two edge rushers and their inside pieces.

So

I like the Rams, but I'm not giving up eight and a half points.

We got a Tufer.

We had a Tufer here out of McCarthy's brain, and we appreciate that.

What's the backdrop there?

We didn't get a chance to chat about it.

Door County.

That's

Horseshoe Island.

Yeah, beautiful, beautiful view.

Just, you know, AJ got me fired up last week talking about Jerry's boat, so I was able to get a bunch of time on my boat this past weekend, and it's really cool this time of year.

I've never really had the opportunity to do boating, much boating in October.

So it's just gorgeous up there.

The leaves are turning and just a beautiful part of the country.

So I was going to show my boat versus Jerry's, but my boat's so small I couldn't get on the screen.

Smart.

Yeah, smart.

Yeah, yeah.

Jerry's boat, double-wide screen.

You need one of those gamers set up.

Yeah, exactly.

I need that thing to be a couple of times.

But Door County,

I don't know if it was on air or off air.

We actually brought something up that was happening.

I actually don't know what's going on.

What is good?

Can you update me what's going on?

I've been up in Door County up on the boat.

That place has become, I think, dream place for you and your family.

I appreciate you representing.

And thank you for joining us, Coach.

Have an incredible weekend.

Oh, you too, man.

Always a pleasure.

Good luck to your pick.

You did a twofer here tonight.

Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Mike McCarthy.

Yay, Coach.

Coach.

What did he say earlier that I say something with all?

Something bring it all.

Something would bring it.

It was like the most Yinser thing of all time.

Just like, because Yinzer's words all go together, you don't want to really move your mouth and open it.

So you just get this kind of a lazy language that is kind of spoke by the Pittsburgh.

McCarthy's got it, has never thought about losing it.

A lot of people that make it from Pittsburgh, they're sent to like coaches like, hey, you need to stop speaking like that.

We cannot have you.

So, the Yinzer accent has not really been introduced to a national audience because anytime somebody gets to a national audience, they tell them you cannot speak like that.

That is not how this goes.

So,

you know, the fact that McCarthy has gone

San Francisco, Green Bay, Dallas.

Yeah, wow.

Dallas.

New Orleans.

He was in New Orleans for a minute.

Yeah.

And just

never lost it.

And also,

he did.

He thought he lost it.

Their memories.

I didn't think I was.

I thought I lost.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, is that how I sound?

I don't sound like that.

That is how you sound.

I don't.

Maybe my dad.

It's like, no, you are now.

You're dead, but you are Pittsburgh dad, who happens to be one of the best football coaches of all time.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, without further ado.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's more than one

wrestling family.

There's obviously more than one storyline, but the one that we loved was when this man finished his story.

He was once Stardust

and he had to go away, create a powerhouse.

And now who's running the show?

This guy.

Ladies and gentlemen, the American Nightmare Kairos.

Oh, Jerry.

Can't really see you got our lights done.

Wait,

wow!

Adrenaline!

My hands are so sweaty, I'm sorry.

Wait, and then wait, boom, fireworks.

Yeah, I heard you missed him.

Yeah, you played it off.

You look cool.

It was cool.

There's a microphone.

Nothing needs your microphone.

Need your mic.

I'll say this.

Where was that?

What happened?

Well, I'm not sure what happened.

I have theories.

There is a, oh, can the title upside down.

Yeah,

The Miz, The Miz did that.

No, no.

And he has one sense.

There's a writer who was featured on WWE's hit series on Netflix Unreal.

I call him Baxter.

I think it was him who did it.

Anyway, so

here's the sad part.

When it didn't blow the first time, that's a good sign to not do the punch.

You know what I'm saying?

Let it go.

It's not going to be there.

Oh, no.

I went for the punch.

Again.

Again, no pyro.

And then got up on the buckle to do the big one.

Whole thing, yeah.

And no pyro.

And getting up on the buckle with my hamstrings and my butt, which they've getting real big.

You need that full explosion, you know?

Yeah, it didn't happen for me.

Sad night, but hey, they woed.

Yeah, they woke up.

Yeah, they all woed.

They always went.

They will always woo.

We will always woe.

And AJ even woed.

Thank you.

I really appreciate you guys the version of my song that we have here on the show.

Yeah.

Bada boo.

Bada, bada, bad, bada, bada boo.

Bada, bada, bada, bada boo.

Bada bad, bada boo, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad boo.

Bada, bada, bada, bada boo.

Whoa!

Yeah, that's good.

That is music to my ears, and I sincerely appreciate you guys too much.

So, do you know the words, obviously?

I don't know the words as well as I should.

Now, Downstate, we made that song years and years and years ago, and I've used it every single place I've gone.

Out the Curtain, Adrenaline and the Soul.

Okay.

I actually don't think I do know

the words

all the way.

I know this, though, is sometimes it lingers a little and you're just waiting to do this.

You're already in the spot.

So you got to kind of sit there and you'll see a couple.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

Amen.

Just give it a second.

Here we go.

Yeah.

So it's a great song.

Thank you guys.

Born and raised in the biz, which is why I think you're here today.

Okay.

The fact that you came here to the Thunderdome to do this conversation, I think it's very old school, but also incredibly awesome that you feel obligated to do as such whenever you're a champion of the WWE.

Tomorrow night, Cincinnati.

Your tag team in with Randy Orton.

Is that what I read?

That's the thing.

It's Heritage Bank Arena, which is an arena I love, and it's Randy Orton.

Let's go.

Somebody who was a mentor to me in the game.

And no spoiler, Randy is, we don't know how much longer Randy is going to be doing this.

I don't want that to creep up on me if we didn't get one more good old-fashioned mega power style tag with the guy who is partially responsible for me ever ever getting anywhere in WWE.

So, Randy Orton, Cincinnati.

It's a great fit.

I was right around the corner.

I had to come by.

We appreciate you stopping by.

I pulled the bus up.

Yeah, oh, we saw it.

Very sweet.

Cool bus.

Well, cool door.

Bone to pick with you on the bus.

Your bus was next to me at Russell Palooza the other day.

Yes, was it?

Yeah, I believe it was.

No, it was not my bus.

It was another bus.

Well, I would have liked had you come on my bus and said hello.

I like when you come by.

I know, but the door was shut.

Post-show, though, got to throw down.

I agree.

That's old school, too.

I know.

You got to throw down.

And I am a throwdowner, I believe.

Yeah, I feel like I want to throw, I want to see how much of a throwdowner you are.

Well, we did throw down.

We have thrown down.

You're talking about you want more.

Yeah, yeah.

Another

you do a big show like that.

We premiere on ESPN.

It's throwdown territory.

We need to throw it down.

Yeah.

You still doing the vodka?

Yeah.

Wheatley vodka?

Yeah.

That's right.

Wheatley American Vodka.

Okay.

I stay away from that.

I like Wheatley American Vodka, but Sazerac,

Parent Company, that's all Buffalo Trace, Pappy.

Oh, okay.

All the deep,

the good urban stuff.

And we're in the heart of it right here, you know?

Yes, we certainly are.

I'll tell you what, Pappy had a good run there.

Very expensive.

Mr.

Winkle?

Yeah, you're talking about Pappy.

You're talking about we have 30-something bottles here.

We can go ahead and do it.

Yeah, Jack Daniels will be all that I will need.

But your bus has always been very hospitable.

You have been very hospitable to me in the business.

You've been around the business a long time.

Right now, Bigger Heights, you're going to Perth, Australia next week, and that's just like status quo.

Yep, going to Perth, Australia.

Gonna sell out a stadium probably.

Me and Seth Rollins are going to battle for the most precious prize in the game.

State of the business right now, if you were just to be,

give a kind of an entire address of where we are right now, what would you say?

How would you describe it to somebody that maybe doesn't watch wrestling on a regular basis?

Well, with ESPN and where the industry is at, pro wrestling in general, only onwards and upwards, which...

is new because you have these peaks and valleys throughout wrestling history.

I've always loved it.

But say, look at the Attitude Era.

If you really look back at it, it's actually a shorter time than we remember.

The golden age of the 1980s, you know, macho and all that.

It's a shorter time than we remember.

We've been cruising now four or five years.

Dallas Mania, even the year prior to that, it's been onwards, upwards.

A lot of that has to do with Nick Kahn.

coming on board with WWE.

He's a super genius.

Super genius, and that's a wrestling term in a way, super genius.

And so much of it has to do with has the best roster.

WWE's roster is you've got Seth Rollins the fact that we get to go do that and get to do it in Western Australia in Perth world champion WWE champion it's a beautiful thing so as long as this roster stays healthy stays happy stays cooking it it's it's onwards and upwards and I think the heights for sports entertainment pro wrestling we've never seen anything like this before so this is just as a kid who loved it always loved it always thought it was cool yeah the fact that other people think it's cool now too makes my day yeah every show seemingly has somebody that is notable from somewhere that's a a massive fan.

And a lot of people were fans whenever they were growing up.

I think every kid at some point has a run with professional wrestling.

A lot of people coming back as older as they've gotten older.

And I think that's because of the access.

We got Netflix deal.

We got ESPN deal.

Obviously, we're still running on cable and linear television.

Oh, yeah.

YouTube channel for WWE is like the biggest in sports.

Libraries over there on Peacock.

Everything is just kind of cooking right now.

You guys should be incredibly proud of the work that you're doing.

Yourself, very much.

Why are you acting like you're not part of this?

you're a huge part of this on that note you can give it a give this a reverse rub you've been giving

we love pack yeah we love pack yeah yeah a lot i've been lucky to be a part of your guys's world to be clear and i do think there is a chance that the wwe espn deal i did have potentially a little bit of sway in that

but on that note neither here nor there i think you guys have earned it all for good reason and watching you guys work up close and personal for how long and what i've get to do it is unbelievable what you guys are able to accomplish on a regular basis and your work ethic is outstanding go ahead Ty.

Yeah, I just want to say first and foremost, not that I ever thought you lost the juice, but you coming out at the home run derby in Atlanta, me and Pat were down there with some of the players, and the pop that you got was louder than any of the players that night.

I mean, I know you're a Georgia boy, so, but I just, I need to- Not just the fans, the team.

Oh, yeah, wait, yeah.

Eugenio Suarez was going crazy.

His son was like, dad, I need a picture with this guy coming out.

You're speaking Spanish, and then all I heard was Corte Rosa.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Exactly.

Legit.

So that was really sweet.

But you thought I'd lost the juice previous to walking out?

No, I said you didn't.

You were worried.

I'm just saying, like, baseball fans,

I don't immediately think, like, oh, everyone in here is watching Raw on Monday.

I don't think so.

It's crazy.

Wrestling fans are everywhere.

They are.

They are.

I always come with the idea that maybe they're not going to be.

Maybe it's an opportunity to show them, hey, oh, the wrestler guy, he's cool.

He's one or that maybe that's why I'm wearing the suit.

It's a different outlook on a wrestler.

But in Georgia, I mean,

that's

home run.

It was a fun night.

But that was that was really sweet.

As we have a hard hour 30 seconds, we'll continue.

30 seconds.

Now we'll continue on digital.

Ladies and gentlemen, he and Randy Orton are battling tomorrow night against the vision, the future of the industry.

Braun Breaker and Brunson, just a week before he has to battle in Perth, Australia for the crown jewel against Seth freaking Rollins.

That's Cody Rhodes.

AJ Hawks here.

Week five of the NFL season kicks off tomorrow.

We'll be reacting to it tomorrow.

Goodbye.

Okay, now we're on digital.

We just went off of TV.

Wow.

Now we stay on digital.

He has a question for you.

And watching that thing down in Atlanta for you was so cool.

I was so, we're a little boozed up.

A little bit.

We're a little boozed up.

We're obviously a little bit.

What is a little boozed up look like for you?

This is what I feel like.

I think I had three Jack and Diets.

He had maybe seven.

Yeah.

Seven, eh?

Give or take.

All right.

Ten.

Dogs got a hundred.

Ty was on.

Dogs to bath.

Ty was on the all-star team.

They gave him a full unit.

I was.

Oh, I love that.

Yeah.

Had the iBlock on and everything.

I was ready to get it.

You get out there on the field at all and then anybody figured out?

Yeah, well, we introduced everybody enough.

So, yeah,

yeah it was pretty sweet but you talk about uh the wwe and wrestling getting as big as it is you're about to be colonel guile in the street fighter movie oh my when you look at that how how much of like your wrestling background comes into acting because obviously like i think you're a pretty good representation of yourself in the ring but like how how much um of what you're doing in the ring could you pull from on set acting and be like, wow, this actually maybe isn't as hard as I thought because I kind of do this every single week.

The physicality part of Guile was, I felt like a pretty easy pickup.

And a bit of a spoiler for what's going to be, I hope, a monster movie.

Guile does a few things in terms of in the video games.

You know, Guile's going to do a Sonic Boom.

You know, Guile's going to do the Flash Kick.

I was adamant that anything that's a stunt, I want to do it.

If that requires me being on these wires, I want to do it.

If you put another guy over here in the corner who I know is going to do the shot after, I still want a shot at it.

I want to, and his name's JV, his stunt squad who's putting together these fights, because it's Street Fighter.

You need fights.

It's a fighting tournament.

Unbelievable.

Very easy for me to jump right into it.

And he had a great team around me to let me get one go at a couple things that I hope I get to see in the movie.

That movie, if you ever played the game, particularly Street Fighter II, what Katow Sakurai has done as the director is unbelievable.

It's just fan service.

I mean, if you just saw us all walking around the lot in Australia, you've got Dalsum, you've got Ken, you got Ryu, you got Chun Lee,

the real, I don't want to say the real final boss, but in that game, you know, you got, it's, it's a, it's a

just a really wonderful cast.

And I think one thing they did that was awesome on this movie is Noah, Kalina, and Koji, who are the three leads, unbelievably good actors who are taking it so dead serious and are there to work every day.

So then you've got me and 50 Cent and Andrew Schultz and Roman.

We were able to play.

They let us have a a lot of fun.

And I hope people enjoy how I approach Guile because it's different perhaps than straight military man, I suppose.

What part of Australia were you guys in?

We did all the filming in Sydney.

I was in Darling Harbor.

Okay, so I was in Brisbane at the same time.

You guys were all up there.

I thought...

We'll just drive over and meet these guys.

Nope.

Nope, nope.

No, no, no.

It was a huge,

huge continent.

Literally, in my head, I didn't do a lot of research into where I was headed.

I just knew I had a 16-hour flight in a tube with no Wi-Fi.

So I knew that was problematic.

Did you go Perth at all?

Did you get over there?

No, I just went strictly to Brisbane.

That's a big shock when people go is they think, oh, it's exactly.

I can just drive on over there.

And then they get on a five-plus-hour flight from Sydney to Perth and realize, oh, this is a giant,

giant concert.

Because you just rattled off a bunch of people's names and they had heard I was going to Australia.

So I got texts from people.

They're like, are you in Australia?

Right now, I'm like, yes.

They're like, we're filming in what city are you guys?

We were in Sydney.

Yeah, Sydney.

We're in in Sydney or whatever.

Are you going to be here?

And I'm like, can definitely make that.

I mean,

the number of people that are there, yes, I can come say what's up.

And then turns out

it was not that easy just to hop over there.

Filming was cool, though.

How many movies have you been a part of?

I did a cameo in Naked Gun, which was a blast because it's Liam Neeson.

It's a Jedi.

Get to have that moment.

This is the first.

real movie I've been part of.

Cool, man.

In a sense of being there every day, showing up, stunt training, Next Piece, you know,

the hair on Guiles is quite a sight.

And just moving through the day, they kept us really busy.

And Sydney was so incredible.

And I haven't been in a place in state still like that pretty much in my whole career, other than my own home.

For Crown Jewel, I put the Aussie flag on the back of the jacket.

I had to.

I love the country as well, dude.

God, they were just such a, if I had to be one place for that amount of time, away from the girls, away from the family, to do this, it was a really special place.

Food's so good.

Yeah.

Everybody jokes.

Big state culture over there.

Oh, my gosh.

Yeah.

Eggs and a morning.

I didn't like the seatbelt in the back seat i didn't love that oh well you can't get in a car you don't you

can't be moving unless you buckle that yeah i didn't love that didn't love that could certainly find cocaine from seemingly anybody

marijuana was not very prevalent anywhere i was looking for tree could not find it on a very easily cake but everything other than that clean i did not have the same drug experience well that's why you're chanting bro yeah exactly exactly that's why you're chanting i mean that's if that's going around out there all right no but i'm not a see but everybody thinks i am a winter storm guy guy because of my energy.

I am not.

It's complete opposite.

I'm like, have tried it.

That is the worst.

I wake up in the morning just like, you're the worst human on earth.

Don't need to do that as an adult.

I actually go the other way.

I'm looking for the trees on a very, regular basis.

Don't want to travel in there because I've seen a lot of brothers.

They're on the mellow.

The window.

Yeah, well, yeah, I just want to see it, you know, kind of go.

Indiana obviously would never do that here.

Of course.

I would never do that.

Just CBD here.

But in Australia, I'm there for a long time.

That was the longest time I have gone

outside of Indiana.

Sure.

Obviously, when I live here in Indiana, maybe since I'm 21 years old, I had that 27-month period when I was

in trouble by the NFL.

I was in the substance of abuse program.

But other than that, no smoke to be found anywhere.

That was interesting.

But yeah, I guess the upper was certainly readily available.

They're all jacked.

Food was incredible.

Everybody had a great personality.

For me, we're in Brisbane.

Sidewalks were like marble at some of the places I was walking around with.

Such a clean spot.

Oh, my God.

Such a clean spot.

It was awesome.

Australia was awesome.

Do you think they really like Americans?

Because I felt like they were incredibly kind, but I also thought

maybe this is like an overcompensation.

Talking a bunch of shit about your rights.

Well, also, too, with the tattoo, I thought, like, maybe

they don't love me as much.

They're really nice.

But I walked away.

That was a second home for me.

Loved it.

You came in and said, I'm the American nightmare.

And they said, every American's an OK.

You know how the climate is now?

It's, you know, I don't ever want to be the one to pull it up.

No, but you weren't.

I'm loud and proud about it.

Plus,

it's Colonel guiles like you said you know you're going into this uh usa all the way but uh yeah absolutely i don't think a lot of americans are there no it's far i don't it's really far and also the schedule like this is 8 a.m start on saturday uh for us right for the crown jewel in perth oh my

whoa uh is yep it is yep yes it is yes it is

i'll be up with you i'll be an hour before doing a game day but i'm gonna wake up with you are you lead you don't have to give the way don't you guys will be last obviously until it's announced maybe that they're first depending upon how

the politics of wrestling is.

Yeah, well, you get it all.

Yeah, yeah, well, well, I mean, those are the two spots.

You want to be first or you want to be last.

I'm pretty,

I think Hunter's old school and that the WWE title typically goes last, but also sometimes going last is

not a chore, but it can be a journey.

If it hasn't been that banger show or if it's been a bit of a slow burn, then it's all on you to give them the action.

It's just, that's the challenge of it all.

I think you're made a better wrestler by being put in that that spot but first you gotta you're setting the tone for the entire first you're setting the tone but also first is low-hanging fruit in a good way that's like you you can first is a great spot first last uh the middle that concerns me well listen you used to be in the middle weren't you doing cartwheels now where are you at first or last or third i was i was the most in the middle guy of all time

so i i like the other spots a tone has a question for you yeah cody since you have that big match coming up next week tomorrow will you be like hey mr viper

Mr.

Orton, maybe you have, you do more of the heavy lifting tonight?

That's very likely if it was anybody but Randy.

Yeah.

Randy, I genuinely think, and we've had a lot of shows where, say, Randy wasn't advertised and then Randy's music hit and it was the loudest reaction of the night.

The people, there's a love he has seen as very similar, the equity they've built up.

When Randy's in town, that's, it's very, you know, I'm not, I don't know if I'm saying Mr.

Orton, but I'm there for what, I'm there for whatever I can do to give him the best match possible because he's earned it in every such way.

And he's naturally going to do that just on his own.

But I feel like our locker room, and I hope the NXT guys and all the NAIL guys who are coming in and all the guys Sean and Baldo are training, I hope they realize what a special individual that Randy is.

And we won't have him forever.

I keep saying that, and the dude might be here another 10 years.

The Quadzilla is a little bit more than a second.

He looks like the Kwazilla current mode he's in, but I certainly want to get this tag with him in case it's the last one.

How come Baldo doesn't have one final run?

That's a great question.

He's been around it.

He knows everybody.

That's a good one.

I mean, you hit that music at the Rumble, see where it goes.

Oh, and I hope he's wearing it.

I hope it is.

Which one do you want?

You want A-train or you want the Ten Side?

Tenside.

Oh, okay.

Well, that's different than most people would want.

We need one more Baldo Tenside run.

Well, I mean, either way, that's always drop him in the water, and I bet the place would lose their mind.

Royal Rumble for sure.

Royal Rumble, and then see where it goes.

Former University of Pittsburgh offensive lineman, lineman, obviously, and freight show athlete.

That guy, I think, not just one night, he needs an entire run.

Yeah, yeah.

You're calling for a Baldo entire run.

See this last match.

Yeah.

He should be involved with the Cena stuff now that I'm like, God, this is Baldo we're talking about.

I'm pumped about this final run.

Yeah, and Baldo, I think he needs promo every week, too.

I think he deserves that.

I think we get promo for Baldo every single week.

You're really putting a lot of time into this.

Yeah, I think he should get 20, 30 minutes a week.

Put Baldo out there.

Boom.

10-minute match.

Obviously, he's going to have to get some of the boots back under him.

Okay, he's going to have to do that, but he's down here working with everybody.

Well, he's a big dude.

You don't have to do as much.

Couple of

people.

Big dude, less is more.

You don't have to come off your feet all that much.

No.

It's up to you, like the light, heavyweight types.

Baldo is awesome.

Baldo was always so good to me, man.

I would like to see him just go ahead and get one more.

D-Bone!

D-Bone probably wants to see Baldo.

Oh, for sure.

Let's get it.

I think he mentioned D-Bone to me last time, and I think as I was leaving, I was calling him the wrong thing the entire time.

That's good.

That's it.

Don't worry about it.

Yeah, you just broke his heart.

Yeah, this guy, massive.

Bada bang.

Bada bone.

Did I screw it up last time, Debone?

Was I calling you something else?

He doesn't remember all the time.

Okay, good.

All right.

I want to make sure.

I hope I got it right.

Good to see you, Mr.

Rose.

Good to see you.

Do you have any questions for the American Nightmare Debone about anything going on the day of the year?

Oh, God.

No zipper burn today.

I will say,

I'd be a fake C Nation fan if I didn't say I am pissed off that you have that fucking match.

Because this right here.

Wow.

Yep.

This upsets me.

But I will say,

thank you for bringing out the best in John Cena and putting him on one of the greatest matches of his career.

That I thought.

Thank you, Matt Collins.

That was a very, very uniquely laced compliment.

And I thank you.

Thank you.

It was a great match.

Metlife.

What a good time.

What a good time.

And I hate saying this, but part of the beauty of how great that match is was the lack of a match that really took place at WrestleMania in a sense.

Sometimes the long game is the game.

And again, it's like going on last.

It's a hard spot occasionally, but the bigger picture, I treat them as they were the same match.

And then we just got to use all the bells.

Oh, you're saying it was like first half seconds.

Yeah, exactly.

It's a story, you know.

I don't want to quote Mr.

Heyman here, but the chapters, the innings, all those things, it's a long game.

Oh, are you seeing the vision right now?

Is that what you're doing?

He's got good vision, huh?

Well, we'll see tomorrow.

Who are you picking out of Braun and R.

Bronson to move forward into

the upper stratosphere?

Who's it going to be?

Oh, the big dog?

Big Braun?

Is that even a question?

I mean, what are we even talking about?

This is okay.

Guy runs 25 miles an hour.

Now, tsunami is certainly unstoppable.

And he called you out for he wanted a tsunami you, you know.

Did he?

Yes, this is a thing he's put out there.

He wanted a tsunami you.

When?

When do you say this?

He's pretty much put everybody on a list.

You were on a list.

There is a put, you were on a list.

High school, I was on a list too.

There's a lot of conversations.

That was an eye-opener for how bad people can really hate me.

Here's my outlook on Braun Bronson, though.

I feel like whoever you pick to be the guy from that group, because this happens to tags all the time, I think you'll be wrong because I have a feeling they're both going to be wrong.

That's why it's the vision, brother.

Yeah, Mr.

Heyman does not make bets

that do not pay off.

No, we're all football guys.

We're all football guys here.

So

we looked up your amateur wrestling record at high school.

The Unreal.

101 and 2.

And only taken down four times.

Wow.

Yeah.

So good.

Yeah.

I was obsessed.

You ever seen Vision Quest?

Oh, back on my vision.

Not the Vision, but you've seen Vision Quest?

I have.

What a vibe.

So that was my life.

I was up early.

The whole thing, the whole reason I was so obsessed with folk-style amateur wrestling is because where I lived, Dusty was kind of Gomez Adams.

Yes.

When we go to tournaments and stuff.

For everybody else that doesn't know what you're talking about.

Adams.

He was just looked upon as he had this freak-like job.

Okay, and then he was always ridiculed for not being a real athlete, which Dusty looked how Dusty looked.

Yeah, but I made it.

So that was everything he did.

He could hit a baseball as far as it.

I mean, everything he did, he was a great athlete.

But I really wanted people to know when it came to me, the wrestling was as real as it got.

It was a weird psychology as a youngster, but it drove me because that run in high school was absurd.

You committed to Penn State, didn't you?

I didn't fully commit.

No, no, that was a, I was going to Howard Fine acting studio.

My mom wanted that commitment.

My mom, to this day, thinks I've made the wrong career choices.

So, and I love her for that.

Mama Rhodes.

Mama Rhodes is not, I think she wanted that Penn State.

I mean, Runnel was a Rhodes to get into college and do it for sports.

Here's the thing about that amateur wrestling record, though, that here's the fraudulent part.

That was in high school in the South.

Competition is not as

stiff as you get in the Midwest, you know, some spots out in California.

I'd go to these Kin Chertel gold medal camps over the summer and I would get dog walked.

I would get murked.

Now, I never got pinned.

I was good enough, but I mean,

the Team Georgia was a fun bit for a second, but I remember being at one camp and the guy goes, all right, you're crab walking across the gym.

He said, if you're from Pennsylvania, go.

30 kids go.

All right, if you're from West Virginia, go.

10 kids go.

He named every state and then he got to Georgia.

One kid.

Just me.

I was the only one at these things because it was Vision Quest.

I just had to keep that record going.

I don't know what it was, but my family loved amateur wrestling.

I felt so bad when

you made the right decision.

Let's talk about you being Georgia boy.

Go ahead, Con Man.

Yeah, what about the Georgia dogs?

I mean, sad.

Yeah, it sucks for you because they might blow.

But

Albano is also a good team.

Are they going to bounce back here or what's going on?

It's not like it was four or five years ago before the big extended playoff, where that one loss is it.

Like, as far as fan bases, we're not packing it up in Athens and saying it's over.

But I certainly, I didn't think that was going to be the case.

I didn't think Alabama had any of the juice.

I didn't think that.

So that game was just

a sad ending.

I see Georgia running the table throughout.

I do.

And then we get into these same discussions at the end with, you know, you've got one loss teams, and then there'll be a two-loss team and who fits, but I still stand by my dogs.

And I think they a great game.

That game is always a great game.

Yeah.

But not what I was expecting.

It's not as bad as it used to be.

It used to be SEC, you lose the one game, it's done.

Pack it up.

And now

there's a little bit of a cushion, I guess, there, but not a good day for me.

They're going to fix it, though, this weekend.

Joe Tess is on the call.

Bringing good vibes.

Bringing the good vibes, yes.

The dogs are going to be fine.

33 games you guys had won down there in between the hedges.

Wow.

You guys lost that.

The longest home winning streak in the country.

Number two home winning streak in the country lost as well.

So we got a brand new top of the we must protect this house.

Georgia, is it what's that coming down the track or who's that coming down the track whenever you call the dogs?

Whose,

right?

I don't know.

You did whose.

I did both, actually, because I've heard from some Georgia Bulldog fans that are a little older, maybe, and say, it's a main machine.

It's a what.

And then you talk to

some other folks younger, and they're like, it's who's.

We're people.

So they say it's who.

So anytime you hear me do it, it's how I'm starting it is really a decision that's getting made in real life.

The gears are going.

But I think if you just put any o in there.

Oh, that's Anton.

It's like when you have like a wrestler that you can't pronounce his name.

It's just the speed and when you hit it, you're good.

You know, like the moves.

I do that with moves.

Yeah, no, if you just get through it real quick, the who's or what's.

And also Athens is ready for you to sing it anyways.

They want the excitement.

Yeah, they're not.

they hate this is

we shouldn't be that particular about that song athens hated me the most out of everybody when i got from the switch up you did yeah no no no they hated me the most when i got on college game day hated me by far the most would you say they were kind of the old whites uh you were referring to

how i refer to that and then also they thought i took david pollock's spot yeah on the show i got along with david pollock david pollock unbelievable athlete david pollock very good to me but georgia bulldog fans were like yankee clown

greatest dog

yeah thanks for going they dropped dropped me in there.

We took the show down there.

There's like 40 people behind us.

It's like, baby, never fucking doing this again.

Yeah, never going to come down here again.

But I will say, I think the Georgia Bulldog fans, a couple ladies kicked me out of a restaurant, one of me kicked out of a restaurant

when I was down there in Athens.

I would say they have by far been the worst fan base towards me.

I hate to hear that.

No, that's good.

It's because of the reason that they are what they are.

But I did pick them and they did win for me.

And I feel like we had a moment there when I beat Texas.

How's your relationship with Ohio State fans?

Very good because of this guy right now.

Okay.

Because AJ is Ohio State fans, I think they would turn on me immediately upon me not picking them.

Yeah.

Like that is college football as a whole.

But the Georgia people, it took a long time.

I would compliment them.

I'd interview Kirby.

I'd put over their entire team.

Don't want to hear it.

Get this guy the fuck off.

I'm like, fuck.

Don't want to hear it.

You think it's because you weren't wearing a tie?

I don't even know.

So that was the first thing when you were on college game day that I thought bold.

Bold.

Really?

No tie.

And then the bolos are coming out.

And the next thing you know, the whole, you just brought an energy that.

Do you sleep in a suit, though?

Yeah.

I have recently gone down one time in a suit, which is, that's almost shameful when you wake up and you're still in it.

And

I rushed from Bristol when I went to the ESPN headquarters to meet my daughter and wife at the beach, and I was still in the suit, and I took my shoes off.

It's just bizarre.

She'll have a lot of questions when she grows up.

I mean, it's mainly, like, I was looking through my other clothes today.

We call it, if ever I wear my track jacket and stuff on TV, the writers call it Cozy Rhodes.

I like Cozy Roads.

Yeah.

Cozy Rhodes.

It's awesome.

Yeah.

So

I do love a good suit.

I do.

You look good in them.

I asked about the Ohio State thing because they seem very difficult to get in.

They're difficult to get in as far as that fan base.

And I wondered, are Georgia fans the same and we don't know it?

In terms of

are we keeping the gate and we I figured we was just come on in.

There's a lot of cults in college ball, which is why college ball is so good.

Like in the SEC, there's a lot of them, you know.

And Nick Saban and a lot of people have told a story about the Southeastern Conference, how there's no professional football.

So, like, the colleges were literally, hey, this is what we have.

And then you talk about grand fodders and grand fodders, fodders, and everything like that that's been passed down the tradition, which is why college football is so great.

But I think the Georgia people just specifically, David Pollock, this guy's talking more than David?

Yeah, not on my wallet.

I don't fucking think so.

David Pollock had a 44-inch vertical or something like that.

I I want Kirby to call and leave a pep talk on my voice, on my voicemail.

He's the greatest.

The first time I ever heard what he sounded like in the locker room blew my mind.

I thought, okay, these guys are going to war.

This isn't a game.

This is war.

That guy's amazing.

We love Kirby, too.

And Kirby, too, has always been very nice to me.

I think Kirby's always been very cool to me.

The Georgia football team has always been very cool to me.

I've always been a big fan of them, and I appreciate the hell out of their fan base.

Like, to be honest, it's like, I like that you want to bat for Pollock because I'll tell you what, if somebody comes in and takes my spot I hope the West Virginia Mountaineer people are like fuck yeah exactly

I hope they are like that I genuinely do but

you earned them over that's the greatest thing ever we're talking about being the middle of the card and then you earn them over that's the gift you didn't start

on you you you it slow showed them what you could do and they they they love you now you just gotta figure out what's or who's

you made me think of a question though talking about kirby's locker roaches i know there's different locker rooms for different superstars but like before big main events um

or like WrestleMania, whatever,

does anyone get up and talk like in front of the group and like maybe motivate for the night?

Or is that just not a thing that happens?

I think the last time we had somebody talk to the whole group was Undertaker talking about Netflix Rawch.

And just what that meant, which was really great because some of the younger ones might not see him, they might not realize who the Undertaker was as an actual in-ring performer.

And for him to explain how big of a deal this was, that this was happening, that was one where you wanted to run through a brick wall.

The other guys guys who will do it, who are more subtle, it's not a pep talk, it's more of a pull you aside and hit you with something that's like, woo, is, again, Mr.

Heyman.

You know, he doesn't take me as one of his guys.

I usually am fighting his guys, but when he says something, it matters.

And Michael Hayes, Michael Hayes is one that he's just a wild, he'll hit you with something or pull the curtain back and show you all the people and where they are.

Just, again, don't want to take any of this for granted.

Again, Heritage Bank Tomorrow, that's a huge one for me.

The fact that you do do this with randy massive but those are good pep talk guys hunter's good too hunter yeah now that i think about it we got a lot of good

a lot of good leaders a lot of good leaders a lot a lot of good leaders on the uh on the squad for sure what about michael cole come on sure yeah i mean michael cole michael cole's energy is motivating absolutely sure he walks out there the tie is a little undone during the day uh he doesn't care top bottom who you're on the card get over here tell me yeah i mean he he gets what he needs he gets his notes He's just, he's the voice of WWE.

My favorite thing about him, he does so much research.

Yeah.

So much writing, so much.

Like, the guy's attention to detail is absurd.

He's always trying to type notes, and you don't know if his hearing aids are on you talking or on a video package that he is listening to throughout the entirety of the day.

But he'll get something from somebody that he really likes.

He'll get real excited about it.

And he's like, oh, I can't wait.

And then we get to almost the moment in the match where it's coming, and you see him get like pretty excited.

And then before it even, as it's happening, he can't fucking burn up you know it's like his his love for the business is like very apparent i think yeah that is what makes the wwe so special all the you guys and women and men and the people in creative and back i mean you talked about free bird there he's been on the road for 50 years this guy's been living arena to arena to arena is what he's been doing the passion for this business yeah the business is uh the business which uh triple h had 1000 times in netflix but it's very real like the business is is kind of the thing that if you love it, it'll love you back.

And I think you guys have done incredible things with it.

Last question is coming from Ohio.

Oh, fresh haircut from AJ Hawk.

Yeah, Mr.

Rhodes, speaking of leaders, there's a great YouTube channel called Ms.

Golf.

Another WWE superstar runs that channel and plays.

I guess it looks like I think he's just a couple under par golf usually there with partners.

Has he asked you to come on the show?

I don't know if you play golf or not, but is that something you're aware of?

And would you play with him?

You know, he hasn't asked me to come on because he's secretly, he's trying to get better with every day.

If you know Miz,

Miz is not going to, he went through a guitar playing phase, I think, five years ago.

And he had it.

I remember it was

on the plane.

He had the travel guitar.

I don't even know if he remembers it, but he, Miz only can go 110 at anything.

So I think he's trying to get as good as he possibly can to then embarrass people who would come on the channel.

But he never will, though.

He's been going 110 on golf for a while.

Yeah.

So you don't see it coming.

And his score started at 110.

Yeah.

And now it's 150.

He has somehow gone the opposite direction.

Oh, man.

It is entertaining, though.

Shout out to Ms.

Golf.

We will watch him do his thing.

Is Miz's short game good on Ms.

Golf?

I can't tell you this.

They're really

beautiful.

Swing looks great, though, right?

Without the ball.

Yep.

Oh, so this is fraudulent.

He's working it.

Come on.

He's putting a little cake babe on that swing.

He goes and plays at Tahoe every summer and comes in bottom three every time.

His caddy's the prompt.

His caddy tells him he should continue to do what he's doing, which is to be a professional golfer.

Guys, Miz has had a hell of a run.

Former WWE.

Look at that.

Yeah, he should not.

That's not.

He's in the woods.

Yeah, I don't know how accurate that trailer is.

Okay, former WWE champion.

I think he's hosting American Gladiators that's on the way.

What?

Yeah, I don't think that's go.

I'm screwed.

He's done everything in the business.

If this is his new thing, dancing with the stars.

Unbelievable.

If this is his new thing, he's picking up.

Let him get in here.

Take a couple putts.

Put some money on the line.

You're losing way too much money in college game, by the way.

I had Brandy watching it this week with the two kids who went tandem on you.

I'm dying laughing at the money just draining from you.

You had to know that that kid was going through the uprights.

That was the most white soccer player.

I'm going to kick it straight.

I have ever seen.

And they were in Kahoot.

Oh, I just met this guy.

No, you you didn't they're they're literally like that financing they both are in finance we said we said this yeah i love that you're willing to do that but man like we need some rules yeah i agree we need someone else on the show to say i'll chip in here not just hey pat money it's a good idea

all right uh good luck tomorrow night shout out to those kids i appreciate it i respect it but yes it got their money expensive yeah no good for them kicking's not supposed to be used that's the whole port of the segment you know so I don't love that.

Even if he was a soccer player, that's a hard kick.

There's thousands of people.

Well, congrats to you, though.

Kickers are all the rage right now.

I'm watching the Cowboys just for the kicker these days.

Yeah.

What a vibe.

Well, I'm watching WWE because of you.

Thank you, sir.

I'll see you tomorrow night in Cincinnati.

Yeah.

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Are you guys wearing a ring for that?

Is there a whatever?

I have the ring and I forgot to wear it.

Look at me.

See, I was a wrestler until I just said that.

Yeah, no, the ring is on the line.

Plus the giant fall right off you because it weighs 70 pounds title that you got to get every buckle on.

But it's the biggest title I've ever seen ever.

So hopefully it's there in Perth and then the winner gets a ring.

I get to keep my ring though.

So the idea is getting two rings.

Oh, give me a hold of them.

You want a Brady style fill of hand?

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You don't.

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That is AJ Hawk right there.

He is a Hoffnom, which we need to continue.

Wow.

He's got a new haircut.

The haircut's becoming Hall of Fame worthy as well.

Is this what the look's going to be?

Is it going to be a low fade and then we're gonna slick this thing back how you doing keep it moving or maybe we do the blowout like poly d you know boys from jersey what are the thoughts here with the low fade what's the end goal here pal uh i don't i do not have an end goal actually i just was trying to grow the sides out uh and so try to clean it up a little bit but i don't know you honestly i have no clue what i'm going to do with it i think it looks very good i think it looks very good right now there was a couple months there where we were wondering what the hell you were doing or what you were going to do we're starting a football season you're on tv every day this is an aggressive decision i think you've gotten to the point here of week five.

Good shape.

Yeah.

It's got good shape.

Maybe you do the Cody Rhodes.

The Cody Rhodes.

He does some great.

Do that.

He was wearing a, I mean, I love his pocket watch situation.

I was so sad.

He's always swagged out of his mind.

Such a good suit.

And then I love that when he wears a track suit, they call him Cozy Rhodes.

He's a big time ball fan.

Big time ball fan.

Oh, you can tell.

You can tell.

He watches show a lot, this show a lot.

Anytime I would see him at an event or if we were literally anywhere at the same time, he would always go out of his way to mention something that happened on the show that day or like the most recent day.

He's always been so cool to me.

I'm very thankful for him.

The toxic tables here at Boston Connor and at Tysmin.

Big wine night for you, boys.

All the marbles.

For all the marbles.

Okay, what's final score?

Let's see what prediction.

Ooh, I'm going to say

5-2 Yankees.

I'm going to say 7-6 Sox.

Whoa.

What's the over-under in this particular game?

Let's go to one-half of the hammer.

Done.

Cowboys AP Tone.

Yankees are around minus 150 on the money line to win, and the over-under is seven and a half.

Oh.

Command says, no problem.

No problem at all.

I mean, the Bats have gone hot.

And like I said, I missed five innings, but I'm pretty sure the Bats are hot.

Right?

The Bats are fairly hot.

They have been pretty tight, low-scoring affairs.

But, you know, guys are getting hit.

That's what I thought.

Oh, yeah.

Singles, singles, singles, singles.

Single, single, singles.

Yeah, a lot of singles.

It's hashtag up to something season for Boston Connor last night.

Got captivated by it.

I cannot wait for the world to see it.

And tonight, the world gets to see an NFC West battle as the Rams and the Niners will face off to kick off.

week five of the NFL season.

Stafford, McCorkle-Jones, there was a line at seven and a half somewhere.

Is it still eight and a half at ESPN better?

Where are we at now?

It is eight and a half across the board now.

Eight and a half across the board.

Conman, what do we need to know?

Injuries for the Niners.

Yeah, I mean, I don't know if there's a bet bet on like

touches for the Niners, but no wide receiver one with Pierce Hall, no wide receiver three with, or two rather, with Jawan Jennings.

So it's kind of Mac Jones, Kendrick Bourne, a la 2021 in New England when it comes to receivers for the 49ers.

Expect CMC to get legitimately 55 touches.

He's the leading receiver and rusher tonight for the Niners.

DeMarcus Robinson, I believe, is the name that Kirk Herbstreet mentioned as wide receiver for the Niners that might get a touch or two here this evening.

Maybe sprinkle a little in-time TD there on Demarcus Robinson.

Just felt like a name that came out of nowhere at Kirk Herb Street's mouth.

A lot of injuries for this Niners team.

Seems like this is kind of the story, brother, all the time with it.

Yeah,

they've been, what do you, bitten by the injury bug for many, many years.

You hear Coach McCarthy say he hates like fatigue injuries that always bother him.

Like soft tissue stuff would always, he'd be pretty upset with that because sometimes you can do, I guess you got to do whatever you can to try to prevent those with hydration, taking care of yourself, but sometimes you're just unlucky.

And it feels like the Niners have been unlucky for year after year after year.

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AJ, eight and a half is the spread.

At one point, it was three.

The Rams favored at home with Puka Nakua playing the greatest football maybe any wide receiver has ever played in the history of its league.

AJ, who do you like?

How do you like it?

So, yeah, I've said before, I've gone back and forth on this one.

And as Coach Mike said, like, eight and a half is a lot of points, especially in division.

I, man,

three seconds ago, I was thinking, okay, I'm going Rams here.

I'm going Rams minus eight and a half, but you know what?

I just, I got to trust my instincts.

I'm taking niners here plus eight and a half on the road.

I woke up this morning,

had a tune in my mind, went to the notes section, then the voice memo.

Sure.

Had a nice workout, got a good sweat in, went over to the

sauna thing.

Sure, nice.

It's great.

House I moved into had one of these.

Holy shit.

Shout out to Rich White Dude.

Yeah.

Thank you.

There's a lot of things this guy has in the house where I'm like, thank you, bro.

I would have certainly never accomplished getting this done.

So thank you for doing it.

As I was sitting in there, I just started doing research on this particular game.

And Hembo, obviously, massive tag team partner with a bunch of stats.

All the stats say Shanahan's going to keep this close with McVay.

So do the Rams win?

We all think yes, right?

We all assume yes.

Yes.

Yes.

But Thursday night, the vision game and Shanahan with McVay, I think it stays close.

So I'm with you.

And it's been this way since I think 5.40 a.m.

I actually looked at the clock and was like, I am not budgeting.

Love it.

Last week, I waffled on a lot of picks.

I ended up having three right out of 16.

So at 5.14 or 5.40 this morning, I was like, I'm sticking with this.

No matter what, no matter who comes on the show and says whatever the fuck, no matter what status said about how great Puka is and how great Matt, I believe him.

I agree.

don't move so i'm staying on niners plus eight and a half strictly because i made a deal with myself when i was sweating my balls off this morning and last week i did a lot of

good players

and every way i leaned and i thought ended up being the right way but not all of them because i you leaned bears and i said but max crosby oh and and you know that that one was that that one's on me one was on me yeah but that's what i'm saying that's yeah that's exactly what i'm saying i was watching those games and i was like man, I think I've won all these games because my first thought was all what was happening.

And I'm like, holy fuck, I'm really seeing the field right now.

I want eight of 10 on game day.

Then I'm watching these games on Sunday.

I'm like, fucking boys got it right now.

We got this thing kind of figured out.

And then I see the graphic and it's like, no, you do not.

The fuck?

And I'm like, oh, man, I thought I waffled back.

I thought I seesawed back.

So I'm not, I'm not budging anymore.

Fucking stay.

It's 540 a.m.

That's your truest self, too.

That's how you know.

This is a very new me.

This is a very new me.

Is it the true me?

Maybe.

It is a very new me this morning.

At your heart's North Star.

540.

Well said.

Well said.

That's right.

I should follow it.

I don't know if I'm going to say it every day, but I have been seeing it on a very regular basis these days.

Been drinking a lot of water, staying hydrated, become a coffee drinker.

You know, you go.

You go down to Paris Island, you watch the Marines and the drill instructors operate.

And you're like, these motherfuckers are optimal, elite human beings.

These are the ones.

These are the, we should, we should try to carry over what these guys are doing and women for like our actual life.

Found myself waking up earlier, a little more coffee.

I'm shaving now.

Hell yeah.

Yeah.

I didn't know you had a scar on your jaw.

Making a, yeah, that's a good one.

On your chin, yeah.

Yeah, that was a good time.

Those are, these things are going to happen.

Yeah.

There's a couple here.

There's a couple here.

I mean, there is a couple on this side.

You know,

these are lots.

This is life, what you are seeing here.

Okay.

This is all life, what you're seeing, but it has become a new one with the morning.

And it's been fun to become a morning person.

Always been a nocturnal creature, always,

like 2, 3 a.m.

up.

And then I'd hear the morning people say, like, you got to be up early if you want to accomplish things.

I'm like, you're fucking sleeping, bitch.

I'm still up.

I am up at 2, 3 a.m.

There is a different animal to waking up.

Now, granted, with kids, have to, because whenever she wakes up, it kind of takes over a lot of things.

You don't have as much free time.

So you have to wake up early.

But I do appreciate the waking up and just like the mindset it takes to like

not just just be like well actually I could probably sleep another 20 30 minutes and then that becomes 45 yeah yeah it'll get you it will get you yeah so like that first decision of like getting up has become one uh that I've really enjoyed making I don't know if this is the new me though forever AJ you're a morning right you're an early riser Yeah, but I mean, it doesn't, it should get easier as you get older.

It doesn't get easier for me.

I thought it would, but no.

Yeah, but every day you're making that decision.

You're a pretty structured morning guy, right?

Yeah, I try to be.

I think it's good for you to do that.

Everything I've read is like, hey, have a thing.

Need structure to

need something to start your day with.

And it's like, I've been, I've been waking up early and I've been loving it.

I've been loving it.

Not at the exact time of waking up, to your point.

Sure.

Say it gets easier.

I'm like, fuck this.

It's pitch black.

It's about to be pitch black.

I'm not looking forward to it.

It's already starting to get in then.

Seven o'clock, still very dark outside.

It's been my entire morning this morning, pitch black.

It made me feel like I'm a fucking.

I'm up so early right now I bet

it's fun dude then that cold tub

I don't go all the way in because I'm trying to grow muscles and there's a bunch of anti-propaganda sure that's right but I uh I will certainly dunk my face in it that's a nice little wake-up call too just 42 degrees yeah

it's been fun man it's a whole new me feels great sent a hilarious email this morning maybe maybe my best email i've ever sent

i think person that received it i don't know what what they think about it, but me sending it, I felt good.

I felt in my bag.

Every sentence got better.

And then even the sign-off, you know where it says, like, this email was sent from an iPhone.

I even made that as a PS, basically.

This email was sent by a retired ball kicker who, and then bury him again

from his iPhone.

Sent.

So every sentence got better.

It was really good.

It's like how people want movies to go, I think.

That was that email.

So mornings have been great for me.

It's what I'm saying.

It's been entertaining for me.

And AJ, maybe I'll FaceTime you in one of these mornings.

Maybe you can give me a little motivational sermon to kind of start my day, AJ.

Classic AJ.

I don't know.

Was that, do you think this person you sent the email to, hopefully they woke up, and first thing they read was this email?

Did it motivate them?

Four people.

Cool.

Yeah.

I think they'll be motivated.

I think they'll be spurned to action of some sort.

Oh, nice.

I just ain't got time for this shit, you know.

This guy wears tank tops.

He's a fucking idiot.

Okay.

We'll see, buddy we will see uh on that note let's get some games right okay here we go yes come on boys tonight we start we start one though tonight

i don't want to do that i don't think you need to no you you stuck with your gut why you know why are you you're right you're right you're right

exactly

yeah

Oh,

come on.

That wasn't for anything.

No, that was just for fun.

Yeah, just to get it.

Yeah, that's all.

Even if it was,

I can't remember who brought it up the other day.

There's been an alarming amount of injuries since AJ made his shot that said no more.

That is true.

One of the most injuries in history.

What happened to that shot?

Probably you, AJ.

I don't know.

I mean, I should have.

I'm going to punt the next one then, right?

Not in here, please.

We've got lights everywhere that went out earlier.

Did you see we had full power outside?

Yeah,

I had a full power outage yesterday that dropped me off the show.

Yeah, like, what's going on?

I don't know.

The graphics thing crashed right before we went live yesterday, too.

That might have been my fault.

AI is overloading the grid.

Oh, I think I fat neared that one.

Oh, no.

I'm just guessing here.

I actually don't know, but I'm just guessing.

There's a chance I accidentally hit the dump everything button

as opposed to the load everything button.

You see, they're right there.

That was a first off.

Hey, well, way to recover back there.

Yeah.

That was real panic.

There was real panic back there.

And then when the lights go out, there's, oh, but ears still worked.

Yep.

Microphone still worked.

So we put these UPS things, uninterrupted power supply.

What are those called?

Generator?

Generator.

There it is.

So these things, in theory, you're uninterrupted is in the U.

Okay.

But there has to be some sort of power outage to launch generator.

This one, we paid massive amount of money to a very good company, great company here in Indiana that does like a lot of work around.

And it's like, this is the quickest, this is the quickest like out to back on.

ups you can basically get and shout to it it worked kept us on the stage lights stayed on the whole time.

These lights, these lights were off.

TVs went off.

The mic stayed on.

We didn't go to ESPN for 24 seconds.

24 seconds.

That's pretty good.

YouTube all good, though.

YouTube's still good.

TikTok, I think, still good.

Unless they banned us for another 24 hours, which happens all the time.

Every day.

So you have a full power outage in the building and you only lose 24 seconds.

That's pretty good.

That's pretty good.

Shout to the Bealies, the Bealey Electrical.

They came in and looked at the entire place and was like, we think you need this, think you need this.

And Tim McFee alongside of him, obviously getting to the bottom of it.

Because in years past, that would have been a full

choice over there.

Somebody called Usboard Center.

Kamara Uzman.

Oh my God, Kamara Uzman was giving one of the greatest motivational speeches of all time about what he thinks about when he's walking to the ring.

I turn into an animal.

I turn into a beast.

I start thinking about.

And just everything stopped.

Yeah.

And then we had to guess if someone flipped the switch in the back alley.

Which turns out some homeless bum hopped on the thing.

Yep, some bum turned it off.

So, shout out to the UPS system keeping us up.

But we need to figure out how maybe to send it to ESPN.

We need to ups the thing.

We need to ups the thing that's going to ESPN.

Get that connection.

Yeah.

Or wherever it's been sent.

Space.

Moon.

Eventually.

There's a girl training to go to Mars and she's never going to come back.

See, she's got bad parents.

Her parents.

like, I don't want to judge anybody, but I don't need that.

I don't need to hear about that.

Imagine Mackenzie comes telling one day and says, I'm going to Mars and never coming back.

It's like, what the fuck should we?

No.

They're not.

That's not happening.

I'm your father.

You're not going.

You're not doing that.

How about that?

This is fun.

Why don't you fucking just start digging a grave?

She's 24 years old.

Oh, my gosh.

Come on.

There's so many things we need to find out here.

We don't need to lose you forever.

Just fuck it, send it, she says.

Put me in.

Where's Elon?

elon yeah i need you to build one that just fucking just sends it just i want to get up there and then i want it to just like a blow just send me up she's like mcconaughan uh what's it called

where he interstellar interstellar uh what was affleck he was growing something on mars right red no no that was damon damien and the martian yeah good movie growing tomato or potatoes from his poop but it never gets stuck and viking

and potatoes i i would like to acknowledge the courage that this takes to make this decision this is like when Christopher Columbus was told, hey, you're going to die.

And he said, fuck it.

I hate my family.

Yeah, exactly.

Let's go.

Is that right?

We don't know.

We don't know.

He might have been a single manager.

We have no idea.

But we do know that to make that decision, there had to be something going on that's like, thank you.

You're telling me I'll fall off of that thing?

Yeah, you got it.

I'm sure I can go get some boys to go down to the bar.

Hey, got got a one-way trip to fucking nowhere.

Let's roll.

Anybody wants to suggest you?

100 people.

Yeah.

You got it?

Yeah, fuck.

Never got to go home again.

Go in there.

So we don't love it.

A lot of courage, though.

Yeah.

So, what's her name?

Do we know her name?

Yes.

I just had Alyssa Carson, I think.

Congrats.

They don't do one-way missions, though.

They say they're not doing one-way missions.

Well, that's the point on coming back, right?

Well, I think we all just kind of understand what that means.

I mean, the nine, isn't it like a nine-month ride?

Like, that's the thing.

How do you not go crazy?

It's nine months one-way.

Oh, remember in Avatar, they kind of put them to sleep.

They do, they in the chambers.

Kind of puts you to sleep when you're out there.

Remember?

Yeah.

Then when you wake up, you start floating around.

Yeah.

Welcome to Bomb Bomb Bomb.

And then you start kind of dancing around.

And then if you're paralyzed, you can't do it.

But then they put you in a tube, and all of a sudden, you're fucking.

Yeah, the 11-foot blue thing.

There's a chance that that's what she's signing up for.

And I would like to say, if she was sold that, I understand.

Yeah, I get it.

If you want to go

be an 11-foot 11-foot most athletic blue thing of all time,

maybe I would sign up for that.

But that is a one-way trip.

I think that's what Alyssa is probably acknowledging.

They're saying I'm coming back, but

probably not.

Maybe I make a chip for if the tide's going to turn.

Okay.

Into that hole

next to the garbage can?

Maybe?

Sounds doable.

Yeah, maybe it's not.

No,

it's the unduffable.

I don't need to.

I'm leaving before changing it.

AJ, you're the man.

We appreciate you.

Thank you for traveling out here tomorrow.

I'll be live in Alabama.

They got me in a sick spot.

Foxy,

they got me in a great spot.

Nice.

Down there.

It's been fun to, because years past, I just go on the field, which has been awesome, showcasing the stadiums and everything like that.

And obviously, I didn't know much about the college football world at that time or many people in the college football world.

So now that, you know, I've kind of met some people, know some people, the thought is like, hey, can I get a cool place that maybe I don't get third-degree sunburns?

Yeah.

All the time.

Also, maybe showcase something cool about your place.

And we've really had sweet setups so far this season.

I'm very thankful to everybody that has been allowing us in their building.

James Franklin, I was four feet from his office.

Yeah, cool.

I mean, I was literally four feet overlooking their entire facility and their stadium and everything.

It was like beautiful.

This one tomorrow is a nasty setup.

I mean, it is

sweet.

I'm very thankful.

I don't know how many people get access to these places, but we're incredibly lucky and thankful that we get to do it.

We'll see you tomorrow.

Be a a friend, tell a friend something nice.

It might change their life.

We're both on the Niners plus eight and a half, even though everybody thinks the Rams are gonna win.

Seems too obvious.

Yep, yep, and that football wasn't for that.

No, no,

Debone.

Debone's gotta step up and get that ball, doesn't he?

That football would be perfect because it is right there.

Stuck in the rim.

Another tie.

No, that's that's debone ain't winning a cover right there.

All right, talk and get it.

Look how close that is to going in.

If that ball hits

an inch higher,

it bounces off of of that, obviously inside the paint.

It's amazing how it got stuck like that too, like long sideways, oblong.

Well, oblong, yeah.

That's because I turned that song bitch sideways.

It's a nice release.

It's like a simulation.

Yeah, it's like how lifting.

You see a lot of

what?

Who's running it?

Who's running it?

Somebody, something.

We don't have enough time to talk about it.

And I'll tell you what, I try to check all the boxes when I'm doing this one at night.

Hey,

Jesus Christ, obviously, I'm very thankful for you.

I appreciate you doing what you're doing.

You die for my sins and all of my sins.

I hope you take care of me and my family and keep my daughter healthy and happy.

Now, if it's not Jesus, I would like to say thank you to my families that have passed away, family members that have passed away.

Maybe they're up here guiding me.

I hope you all are okay.

My friends, I hope you guys are good.

If it's any of the other gods or whatever fucking running, I appreciate you guys.

I don't know.

I don't know what you guys got going on, but I do appreciate it.

Just want to kind of check all the boxes just in case.

You know, you never know who you're going to meet up here.

I think I'm okay with basically everybody, but there's one particular one.

If it hits it right, I'm one.

Weren't there some other team on me?

Team on three, never forget it.

Let's enjoy tonight.

Let's enjoy this life.

We're in the middle of football season.

Baseball has meaningful games.

Magic is happening.

The fever, we're going to win the WNBA Commissioner's Cup.

Is the Commissioner?

She's done.

What is she doing?

Was she boozed up whenever she was saying these things?

Was she at the all-star game here in Indy, just like, fuck Taitlin?

What is that happening?

It does kind of sound like it.

I was listening to that quote as Fi, I believe, is the name.

She's vice president of the Women, WMBAPA, or whatever.

Nafisa call your there in the mail, yeah.

Nafisa calling that car.

As she was giving that speech and like kind of

unloading everything that was happening, I'm like, okay, we're trying to do a little leverage play here.

And then she said, verbatim, I was told.

And I'm like, okay, what could this be?

And then she's saying, I'm like, no fucking way.

What is happening right here?

That is a fatal blow, I think, because normally

league is going to win the public.

Players have no chance.

Normally, the reason that happens whenever there's a labor dispute, team's going to be there a lot longer than any of these players are.

So, hey, players, you're cool and all that, but when you're gone, this team's still going to be.

This team is a part of the fabric of the city.

The fans are a fan of this team, okay, and that's how it's going to be.

But players are kind of replaceable, actually.

That's kind of the start of the business.

So anytime there's a work work stoppage or a contract negotiation or anything like that, fans and public normally all side with billionaires and teams.

That is kind of the way it works.

Fee kind of

fee dropped a little,

she changed the game a little bit.

Yeah, because now Caitlin Clark's fans are like, What'd you say?

We knew she wasn't.

We knew she wasn't.

And then the rest of the WNBA is like,

What'd she say?

So it wasn't just Caitlin fans in the WMBA, because there's been like, you know, Caitlin fans, WNBA fans.

You know, there's like, what's the two circles?

Van Dyram.

Felt like that, the shared part was very small at the beginning.

Very.

Very, very small at the beginning.

And then, you know, I think it has opened up as the league has continued to do a thing, but there's still, obviously, still more on either side.

It feels like this one,

right here in the middle, peace commissioner, right here in the middle.

What did she say?

They're calling for her job.

Oh, yeah.

They're calling for a job.

Yeah.

And then Caitlin comes out and goes, yep, everything she said.

And Caitlin,

well, fuck, Caitlin didn't stick up for this lady at all.

What about Paige at the end of the J-HUD

hall of happiness?

Kathy,

I was the last person you thought you see.

And then she gives her the Rookie of the Year Award.

And Paige, thank you so much.

Does the hug and move.

Was that the last time we saw Kathy Engelbert as the commissioner of the WNBA?

I think so.

They're trying.

They're trying.

I'm excited to see what she says next.

I had four Jack Daniels.

Yeah.

Oh, boo-hoo.

I got fucked up and said some stuff I shouldn't have.

Let's move on.

When did those conversations happen?

Are those in secrecy?

Like, how?

Yeah.

She was very comfortable, clearly, very comfortable whenever she was saying whatever she was saying.

And it's like, I hope you guys figure it out.

And when Kaylin comes back, I know the fee we're going to win it all.

And when Kelsey Mitchell gets healthy, she's no, we're going to win.

She hurt last night.

Damn.

Sten.

Stencinacious.

She was leading the team.

Leah Boston, I think, went for like a quadruple double last night.

Yeah, overtime game.

Tough overtime game.

Tough game.

Let's go run by a fever with a lot of injuries.

Yeah.

And on that note, it feels like Kathy's about to have a long offseason.

Yeah.

I don't know how she's going to put out those fires.

As somebody that has had a few fires around the WFBA,

those are very good.

That's a big one.

You better sound the alarm.

That's a six-alarm fire.

Good luck.

It is a good time.

Let's let's remember that let's not try to hold back sports sure to promote sports the world needs more sports and tonight we got baseball more importantly we got week five nfl football be a friend tell other friends something nice it might change your life we're going to stay together team on me team on three one two three

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