PMS 2.0 1419 - BA Day with Bruce Arians, MNF Doubleheader Recap, Matt Stafford, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome.

On this BA Day, September 30th, 2025, this program begins now.

Football!

Love that.

That's 47-year football coach, multiple-time Super Bowl champion, absolute stud, ladies and gentlemen, our coach BA.

Coach, good to see you.

Thank you for joining us.

The shirt is electrifying.

No risket, no biscuit.

And today, it's BS or no bullshit as well.

Thank you for joining us.

We love you, man.

It's been my pleasure, brother.

It's the most fun I have all week.

Okay, I'm happy to hear that.

That will continue today.

There's a lot to talk about in the football world.

Two Monday night football games last night.

Congrats to the Dolphins.

Wow.

All the way back.

Now, granted, they lose Tyree Kill, who is obviously a

unicorn.

His explosiveness, his ability to get open, everything he does on a football field, only Tyree Kill can do.

And we all remember, obviously, the incredibly glorious days where he was the number one player in the entire NFL.

Now, towards the back half of last season, and then obviously to begin this season, it didn't feel as if it was the same Tyreek Hill in Miami.

But last night, I will say, before the game started, this is the first time he has not been voted captain for the Miami Dolphins.

Before the game started last night, they had a circle, you know, around the warm.

And Tyreek was in the middle of the leading it.

And he was actually punching people's chests.

He looked like he was incredibly pumped up.

It's like, oh, wait, is Tyreek Hill all the way back invested and all the way back back in with this Miami Dolphins team?

Look at this.

That team likes that guy.

That is not a team that hates that guy right there from

what I am watching here.

And I thought that was a wonderful thing.

Thought he was going to have a huge night.

Instead, it's the night where we witness him have a absolutely gruesome knee injury that they wouldn't even re-show, even though some people captured it and posted it on the internet and it was kind of maybe force-fed.

Nasty knee injury, obviously a dislocation, some ligaments torn.

This is one of those ones that they talk about in being a devastating injury to, you know, what, recovery, recovery, career, everything, you name it.

So we would like to let Tyreek Hill know that everything he's done for football up until this point, we thank him for it.

Hey, you were electrifying, brother.

It's going to be a long road back, and recovery and rehab for this is going to suck.

This is going to be a very painful experience, obviously.

And with how explosive he is, how will they get it back to that?

I have no idea.

But Tyreek on football, hey.

We appreciate what you do.

Now, punters are going to and have been, you know, sleeping a little bit more sound since he stopped being a permitter, which is certainly good news.

But the game will miss you on the field.

And also, if this Miami Dolphins team is about to be good and Darren Waller is about to be another very viable threat, if you've got a tight end who's good in the middle of the field, you know what that does for the people that are outside there.

You know what that does for Tyreek Hill potentially.

Obviously, he will not be there.

But just thinking about how bummed out we are, the Tyreek kids are, all of a sudden, this Miami Dolphins offense goes back to potentially being the one that we had read about, talked about, and heard about.

Whenever McDaniel was brought in, they were hanging 70 points on the Denver Broncos, which we'll certainly talk about in just a matter of moments, as they expose what the Bengals for what maybe the Bengals actually are, which was a hop

28-3.

The Broncos just beat the hell out of the Bengals, and it was ugly.

I mean, it was absolutely ugly.

But this Miami Dolphins team, let's go to nine-year NFL vet.

Uh, born, I'm sorry, raised in South Florida.

Miami Dolphins fan is his first team that he loves.

Uh, Darius J.

Butler, Darren Waller, top players.

I mean, I mean, he is all the way.

Yeah, what a debut.

I mean, Gunt was all over it.

He was saying it from the moment he walked in the building yesterday.

Wilder in the painting night, while in the painting night, he showed up.

Tua hasn't had a target like that since he's been the quarterback of the Miami Dolphins, especially down in the Red area.

You would have loved to see him in the middle, like you said, with Tyreek and Jaden Wild, Jalen Waddell on the outside.

Unfortunately, we won't have that.

And this kind of game reminded me of what BA used to tell us all the time.

Hey, it's going to be a five-star game.

You know, prime time, back against the wall.

Tyreek is obviously one of their five-stars, and he started in the middle of the huddle pregame, getting the boys hyped up.

He looked like he was off to a great start.

Even when he went down, I made an unbelievable catch.

So it's unfortunate he'll be out.

But Dolphins still got a chance to piece some games together.

They can be competitive in the AFC East.

After the Buffalo Bills, obviously.

But it was a tough, that kind of takes the wind out of yourselves if you are on that team, if you're on that roster, because when you talk about long-term, maybe potentially making the playoffs and missing one of your best players, one of the best players in the NFL when he's healthy.

That'll be tough.

But hopefully they can continue to fight and make something out of this season.

Darren Waller was on the hands team.

Guy hasn't played in years.

And they had him on the hands team.

That's how much confidence they had in Darren Waller.

I think them rolling him out here this deep end of the season, I think, was good, getting completely comfortable, getting him completely in the game shape.

He took over.

He was exactly the Darren Waller that we fell in love with on the football field that was stealing the show with the Raiders.

And whenever he was over there with Gruden, him and Gruden, obviously very tight, he was maybe the best player in all football.

Then he goes over to the Giants, it doesn't work out.

Obviously, things don't go the way that anybody thinks.

And I think he was going through some shit potentially.

We all heard about and learned about that.

So, whenever he re-signs, or whenever he signs with the Dolphins, Gumpy's like, first, and Gumpy's at first, he's like, Oh, great, we get rid of John who and we bring in Darren Waller.

You know, that's what Gumpy's reaction is as Miami Dolphins fan.

Then he starts seeing Darren Waller, and they start, he starts talking a little bit.

Then he starts watching some highlights, and all of a sudden, Gumpy 10 days ago is like, Darren Waller is back on Monday night.

Like, he called this like literally 10 days in advance.

There's no way you thought it was going to work out this well.

Let's go to one half of the hammer.

Done.

Cowboys, Bubba Gampino, a man who has rode alongside this Dolphins team, almost gave up on them.

Yeah.

Close.

Almost.

Had the order, had the NFL hat in the shopping cart, if you will.

Proceed to check out.

They added another thing for, are you sure you want to do it?

He said, I just want to buy this thing.

And all the apps are going, oh, you sure?

You don't want to juice with this?

No, I want to proceed to check out just let me do are you sure you don't want to buy i'm about done with that okay yeah you already got us behind

i know what i want okay i have the shopping cart i don't need 45 of other things i'm not a robot okay yeah i'm a human going through this i know what a motorcycle looks like i've made the exactly i'm sick of the bridges i'm sick of the stoplights yeah i know exactly that is how i feel with these apps but nonetheless he had the nfl hat just sitting in that shopping cart.

All he needed to do was go down to that part of the app and then proceed to check out.

And they would ask him 45 questions about something else.

You get some NFL pants if you want, maybe some NFL sandals, maybe some of this.

Do you want milk?

We can get you some fucking milk alongside.

See groceries?

Go ask that.

But Gumpy was this close.

Then they sent him that jacket.

Exactly.

And then he put the dark uni on.

Yep, the dark waters.

The dark waters.

Unreal.

Yeah.

And he was walking around this Thunderdome after hours last night, just peacock.

I mean, he was, and then they were showing Tua, and then Tyreek's headbutt started happening.

Then Darren Waller's running, and Gumpy's like, here we go, boys.

Did it work out?

Obviously, the Tyreek Hill thing is just such a bummer.

That's very Dolphins, it feels like, just for the Dolphins fans to experience one great thing, and then something devastating happens on the other side.

We apologize about that.

But the Darren Waller Miami Dolphins era has begun.

Is this going to save your season, Gumpy?

It's really our only hope.

He looked unbelievable last night.

And the defense, too.

You talk about the defense let up a bunch of yards.

I get it.

But big plays by Jack Jones, Rasul Douglas.

That's the secondary everybody was worried about.

They made massive plays.

And Tyreek injury, obviously devastating.

But it's time for Jalen Waddell to step up and be that number one.

He's a top 10 pick.

He's been paid like that.

And it's time for him to take over as wide receiver one for the Finns.

Yeah, we didn't see a lot of that.

A lot of water.

And the AFC East, obviously, Buffalo Bills world.

Then you got the Patriots over there.

Everybody thinks Drake May's a guy.

Hopefully.

And then the Jets, I think everybody's lost a little bit of hope.

They ran that thing 60 straight times.

I mean, I don't know if that was the actual number, but there was two pass attempts in the first seven hours of that game, it felt like.

I put my baby girl up to bed.

That's a little bit of a time.

Came back down.

Game had started pretty good.

Then I go up there, come back down.

And I hear Chris Fowler go, that was his second pass attempt.

And I looked down and I'm like, damn, they are just two fumbles, obviously, out of the gates, one on the half-yard line, and then Justin Fields has the other one.

But the Jets, they're paying $20 million a year for Justin Fields.

I don't know if anybody has hope in the Jets this year.

Let's go to Boston Connor, AFC, East Fan from birth up there.

Jets dead?

How do we feel about the Jets?

I mean, I think you should just feel about the Jets as like until they change their colors, move their team, they're never going to win anything.

Name, name, too?

Yeah, name.

Sure, maybe they do become the first team that has a New Jersey in their name that actually plays in New Jersey.

It's just never going to be one of those.

those things with the Jets that you think they're going to go until they prove it to you.

Like they really never do.

Typically they, you know, and it sucks with what happened to Braylon Allen too, who got hurt, but typically that is kind of their M.O.

They have terrible things happen, show a lot of fight, because they did.

I mean, Justin Fields, his 43-yard touchdown was so sick.

Like the way he rolls all the way right, turns around, sprints back around, you know, weaving in and out of people touchdown, like electrifying football.

But I don't think anybody in the NFL who's competing for a Super Bowl will ever take the Jets seriously until there is some sort of like, hey, they're building something.

Like, there hasn't been any of that for so long.

All right, let's go to the next game.

Broncos hosting the Bengals.

That one kicked off at 8.15.

And,

well, Broncos, really good team.

Yeah.

Broncos, really good team.

The other team might not be really good.

Now, obviously, they don't have their quarterback, their franchise quarterback.

They have their backup quarterback.

He obviously had some successful football last year, but so did Bo Nicks.

And this Broncos team, obviously, loses to a really good Indianapolis Golts team.

Okay, so a lot of people, I think, just kind of lost faith in them.

A lot of hype coming into the season.

Way to the Broncos dead.

They beat the hell out of the Bengals last night.

Coach B.A., what are your thoughts on this game?

And is this Broncos' defense for real like everybody thought it was at the beginning of the year?

Oh, I don't think there's any doubt about the Broncos defense, but the Bengals, they spent a lot of money on wide receivers.

They might have wanted to try to invest something in an offensive line.

Oh, really?

I mean, three-man rush, sacks.

It doesn't matter if Joe Burrow's out there or not, because Joe wasn't going to get shit off either.

Okay, so let's talk about what you just said there about paying your wide receivers and paying your quarterback and get a deal done with trey hendrickson where he gets uh

30 or 50 bucks yeah extra seven i think it was 12

okay yeah i knew it was something yeah it was something but they dragged that entire thing out this entire offseason we had a conversation on this show with a lot of football people we said hey since beginning of football

the way they're building their roster can you win like that especially with what the eagles just did you know like what the eagles did usually what the super bowl champion is is an indicator of what like probably the game is or at least it's going to be.

It's just like in basketball.

I think whenever Steph was on top, everybody was trying to kind of follow that particular path.

Right now, it feels like you need trenches.

Like, you need trenches bad right now.

Maybe not as much five, 10 years ago, even though you still need to protect.

But the way the game was set up, the way it was structured, the trenches weren't like the determiner on whether or not you win or lose.

Right now, it feels like trenches are back to being like the number one thing that's deciding whether or not a team is good or a team is bad.

And it's like the Bengals last night obviously looked horrendous on the offensive line, but there was no effort.

And on that note, there's been a lot of moves that they've made to that offensive line.

A lot of moves.

Connor, whenever you ask Hembo, you say, hey, Hembo, how many offensive linemen have they tried to bring in and it not work?

He rattled off a bunch of names.

This Bengals offensive line has been a problem.

It has been for a long time.

Even on the run to the Super Bowl, I think Joe Burrow got sacked 11 times or something like this.

And nine times.

In games, not total.

Yeah, in one game.

Against the Tennessee Titans, I think he got sacked like 11 times.

Yeah, it was like a record.

And then he got sacked like nine times.

And then in the Super Bowl, obviously, it ends with Aaron Donald throwing him.

If he had any time, he would have been not saying anybody would have stopped Aaron Donald.

But if he has a half a second more, he probably hitched Jamar Chase.

They might win the fucking Super Bowl.

So protection has obviously always been a conversation.

They've tried to make it better for their sake, I would say.

Yeah, big time.

2024, they drafted Amarius Mims.

And again, a lot of these stats, we don't know, but these are the stats that they're giving us and

qualified tackles, all that stuff.

Amarius Mims, 66th among 72 qualified tackles in pass-block win rate the last two seasons.

That was 2024 draft pick.

Orlando Brown, he's in the third year of his four-year contract.

They paid him a lot of money.

I think it was between $60, $70 million.

He's 55th among 71 qualified tackles in pass-block win rate.

Again, I don't know.

But still, Pro Bowler, before he did make it to Cincinnati, he was a four-time Pro Bowler with Zeus.

Casey, yeah, exactly.

There's a reason he got paid.

He got brought in from Punk and City to protect Joe Burrow because they've never been able to have an offensive line.

Yeah, just for some reason.

It just hasn't worked.

Lael Collins, he signed a three-year deal.

He got cut after one season.

He did get injured, though.

Riley Reif, he signed a one-year contract.

He ranked 64th out of 68 in qualified tackles that season in 2021.

And then Kappa, who actually was really good from the Bucs, I believe he went over to the Bengals and then he ended up retiring or going back to tampa like it just hasn't worked for them okay so what is it scheme system because doesn't sean mcvey who has a similar system have good offensive line or has the ability to turn over offensive line like is there something to an offense not being good for protection and does taylor have an offense that nobody can protect for like i don't because we have good offensive lineman going over there yeah and it not working for whatever and every time this happens everybody brings up like well they could have drafted penne swell instead of jamar chase every time yeah it they seemingly have tried their best to add some offensive alignment, at least.

But is there a system potential?

Is it coaches?

Like a lot of people, I think, want to know how we've gotten to this point.

Yeah, I think it's all the above.

You know,

the system is the same one that everybody comes out with Sean, you know, and

it's not working for a couple of those guys in a couple of different spots right now because I think the NFL in general right now has a tackle problem.

I mean, too many tackles getting hurt, first of all.

But

there's so many great pass rushers.

There are not enough great tackles to block them all.

And you can't throw it fast enough.

But when they beat you with a three-man rush right off the bat, something's wrong.

Okay, so do you think the tackles, the size of the tackles, athletic tackles these days, potentially becoming tight ends because of where the game is with the necessity of tight ends?

Some of these tight ends are monsters.

I mean, Darnell.

Darnell Washington.

Yeah, I mean,

he's a tackle.

Yeah.

He would be a tackle.

I mean, we even talk about this because we were talking about Rushmore, which we'll certainly get into.

Show is great.

Tom Brady and Peyton Manning uh give their mount rushmores it's available now at at rushmore on x full episode 30 minutes very digestible and good tom brady peyton manning share a lot of stories ari emanuel is the host and ben perski is the host they basically all give their own rushmores and reasons for why they have the top four uh at the receiver position and then at the end they have to come down to just one rushmore and there is some real fire debate between tom brady and peyton manning It is a great episode.

And then they just have more.

Jimmy Iveen, Rick Rubin talking music, Al Michaels, Bob Costas talking about like the history of sports.

You name it.

There is everybody.

Shaq and Reggie Miller are on here talking about

dunkers and power forwards, and they're wide open.

I don't know if they were boozing.

I have no idea.

They're wide open on this thing, and they are definitely wide open.

And then Elon Musk is on this thing talking about video games.

And I don't know shit about video games.

Elon does.

He does.

I mean, and he is very, very invested.

But the receivers, it turned into receivers and tight ends.

The conversation basically, because Tom Brady was like, we can't make this without Gronk.

Gronk is

the best receiver that I've ever.

He just, the way he talked about Randy Moss as well in there, and but the way he talked about Gronk, and you chatted about Gronk could be a tackle with his size, but he could also slim down and be a wide receiver with his athleticism.

It's like a perfect tight end.

Do we think some of the bigger guys are maybe going to defensive end because the amount of money that's potentially coming or to tight end?

Is it like potentially one of those issues where we're losing the body types that are tackles to other things?

Is that the problem?

Or is it development and tackle?

I think it's the development in college too.

Because you got to have some sand in your ass.

And you can't just be long.

You got to be able to stop people from the bull rush.

It starts with the bull rush.

Then you got to be athletic enough to take all their moves on.

And it's a very hard position to play.

When you look at the draft a couple of years ago when Tristan Wurf came out, there were like four really good tackles.

And they're like, hey, we're going to get one.

And we made sure we went up and got christian worst and it changed our whole team and uh so it's like there's a premium on those guys for me i can find a wide receiver in the third round i can find a running back in the third round you can't find a tackle very often that can handle the pass rushers we have to see now in the nfl

in the fourth round max cross i mean that used to be i will get those guys later michael all right big tough strong guys and they fly by your ass so fast you can't it's like a swinging door you know But now, if you're playing for some teams, just want to pound, pound, pound, yeah, they're good.

But you got to throw the ball to win.

Yeah, which is the Jet story there.

I don't know if that style of football is ever going to win the Super Bowl.

And it was tough to watch, to be honest.

I was very thankful for that.

So many penalties.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Turnover.

Like a ridiculous amount of penalties.

Troy, I think, in that, that was the other game.

Right.

Troy talked about it in the other game.

He was like, I don't know what I'm supposed to say here, but this is ass, basically, is what Troy said.

So yeah, that's the right call.

It's completely unnecessary.

We don't need to be throwing this flag.

It had nothing to do with the play.

It always drove me nuts.

Yeah, it was a penalty, but it had nothing to do with the outcome of the play.

It was like 10 yards back here.

It was a blind side block.

It wasn't even a tough one.

You know, just a little peelback block.

Had nothing to do with the play.

Put the damn thing in your pocket.

Yeah, like there's like a little hold potentially happening, but it's on the complete opposite side of it.

It's like, are we going to stop this entire game?

for something that has nothing to do with the outcome of this game.

And it's like DBs get stuff for holding backside plays whenever it's thrown the complete opposite side of it.

The liberal contact 50 yards away from the play is terrible.

But I thought the worst call in that game when it was still a game was the false start on Ted Karris on the center.

Oh, the headlines.

Oh, yeah.

He does that every snapshot.

And I don't know if they're cracking down on centers in general because they had one in another game where it was like on the half-yard line.

Because the Packers game moved the ball.

Move the ball.

Which centers have been doing that forever.

So I don't know if that's a point of emphasis on centers in particular, but that Ted Carris call was that was unbelievable.

Yeah, very aggressive call to make yeah hey i'm gonna decide the game

fourth and two early fourth like that was huge he's only been doing that every single play the whole game and also that's a conversation with the refs right before like long snapper our long snappers matt overton and uh justin had to talk to the refs beforehand about their movement and the whole thing

i think centers had to do the same thing i think aq has had to talk to the refs because the refs if they get a complaint from the other team the ref comes and tells the center normally like hey they uh said that your head bob's a little bit too violent or something like that like that conversation takes place so to call it on a fourth i mean that is a wild thing

joining us now ladies and gentlemen is a man who's played through so many different eras both in uh what you're allowed to do to try to draw people off side remember back in the day quarterbacks were allowed

it was uh it was an entire then they cracked on oh you're not even allowed to move your hand in an aggressive way don't even think about moving your hand forward you've got to stand exactly still this man and i were uh drafted 221 picks apart okay

and uh boy i will say from the beginning until now there's vastly different levels to this shit for good reason this guy is one of the greatest ball throwers of all time he's a super bowl champion ladies and gentlemen the incredibly handsome man who was in the super duper live forever tube oh yeah training camp ladies and gentlemen la rams quarterback matthew stuff

how we doing hey how are you thank you for joining us we know it's a short week obviously you guys just had a massive win over the indianapolis colts can you tell hey we're a good team colts good team team?

Oh, yeah.

Good football team.

Good football team.

Big physical football team.

I love hearing that.

Put it on the ticker.

I do love hearing that.

As watching that game, though, obviously, I thought to myself, the Rams are one of those teams you're trying to figure out if you're going to be able to win in the playoffs.

You guys are that, especially because of everything that you've done.

It feels like you've had a couple different eras of this Los Angeles Rams team.

Why do you think you guys have maintained success?

And why do you think your culture is kind of implemented in there so quickly, basically, since you get to Los Angeles?

Yeah, I mean, I feel like the success comes from continuity.

We have enough coaches.

You know, it starts with Sean.

He does an unbelievable job that

guys come into the system.

They know exactly what it's about.

They know what they're going to do.

And then I think our front office does a hell of a job about bringing in people that know what the Rams are all about.

Hey, come in here, fit in, get in the locker room.

Obviously, learn our system, but learn what we're about as a team and how we go about our business.

The older guys try to carry on that tradition, keep the guys understanding what it's all about, and then we go out there and play.

I enjoy watching your squad i enjoy watching you play uh because i don't know if i'm 38 how are you 37 37 yep 37.

okay um

i don't know how you're still i mean brother the shit you're huh we're pretty we're feeling pretty good still i mean i know you great ball throwers i think i've heard aaron talk about this i assume there's been some baseball throwers like i'll always be able to spin it do you feel that way we talked to josh allen about that and how have you been able to maintain your health and uh physical capabilities?

Is it that trailer tube that you wanted?

What was it that?

The immortal chamber.

I'm going to live.

The immortal chamber, that's right.

What are you doing?

How is the body feeling?

And you seemingly have only gotten better somehow throughout the entirety whenever Father Time is supposed to slow us down, brother.

No, I'm feeling good.

A little touch and go during training camp, a little back issue.

But as far as being able to spin it, man,

I feel really good.

My body's been holding up

really good for the first four weeks of the season.

The arm feels live.

I'm still trying to make some things happen out there at Throwing the Rock to the likes of Puka and Devontae.

So it's been fun.

It's been a good start and just trying to keep it rolling, man.

Last question for me before the boys have some, and Coach B.A.'s here as well.

He's saying your praises all morning.

I don't know if your ears were burning at that early-ass time of LA, but let's talk about Devontae and Puka.

Obviously, it's a great time to have Devontae Adams on your team anytime, if you're a quarterback.

How about whenever you've got a guy like Puka who is maybe best wide receiver in NFL right now?

And then you got Devontae Adams as another option off of that.

How have those two paired so well together for you?

And can you tell us about Puka kind of developing into the guy maybe in the entire league?

Yeah, I mean, they're both really talented players in their own right.

Different, you know, play styles.

Puka, big physical guy that, you know, run after the catch player, does a nice job really in all phases.

Devontae is an elite route runner, has been for forever.

Ball skills when the ball's in the air.

The guy makes unbelievable body movements to catch it.

I feel lucky and blessed to be the guy throwing them the rock.

I think our coaches do a hell of a job dialing up stuff to let those guys be successful in their own right.

And then I just got to pick and choose where the defense tells me to throw the rock and they do the rest.

So I'm a lucky one.

Knowing where to go has seemingly been your thing for a long time.

Let me share some stats with you here.

Okay, from Hembo.

Stats, guys.

Not always good for people that

life depends on how their stats look.

Kickers, punters, quarterbacks, pitchers, hitters, you name it.

Not always great.

These stats, you're going to enjoy hearing these.

And you're going to have to take these complimentary stats and enjoy them and really digest them.

Okay.

Don't be uncomfortable.

Don't be awkward.

First four games of a season in 2012 with Calvin Johnson, Matthew Stafford, 29 receptions on 43 targets, 423 reception yards, 21 first downs.

Damn.

Okay.

2021 with Cooper Cup.

You remember

all of these throws, I assume.

30 receptions on 46 targets, 431 receiving yards, 18 first downs.

Okay.

2025 with Puka Nakua.

42 receptions on 50 targets, 503 receiving yards, 26 first downs.

Johnson and Cooper Cup wound up with the two largest yardage seasons in the history of the NFL.

Okay.

Which, oh, yeah, this guy has.

So,

hey, you and Puka are on a historic rate right now, brother.

And you've been with them the entire time.

That has to feel pretty good.

We love Ous over here.

Yeah, no doubt.

It's pretty cool.

He's a special player.

Obviously, he had an unbelievable rookie campaign, set some records there, and then, you know, he's only built off of that.

So just continue to try to find him when we can and let him do his thing, man.

I'm just, I'm so happy to get to play with guys like that.

They are special.

You named three pretty unbelievable players right there.

And so I was lucky enough to play with all of them.

Yeah, and I think all of them would say, we're lucky to have that tough son of a bitch, Georgia Bulldog from Texas as the ball spinner.

On that note, being tough, we've seen you broken neck, I think, broken ribs, back.

Yeah,

through a touchdown or like an 80-yard.

Don't touch me, please.

I got a broken collarbone right now, actually.

They're going to try to fix it during the timeout, but don't fucking touch me, Randall.

Uh, D-Bun has a question about all of that.

Yeah, keep representing for the 09 class, making us proud.

But you've been doing this for a long, long time.

Pat talked about it earlier.

And Sean McVay, his offense, he's put out so many head coaches.

The offense has been trying to be stopped for a long time.

How have the defenses kind of evolved throughout your career, especially when it comes to kind of slow you and this offense down?

Yeah, it's been a huge evolution.

I mean, I think back to when I first got into the league, it was, you know, Tampa II.

We're bringing just, you know, old school smack and wham and playing 3D fire zone behind it.

Then it kind of went to the Seattle 3 morph, you know, when they were winning their Super Bowls and doing all that.

Then Vic Fangio kind of came around and was doing a bunch of his stuff, catching things from depth.

There's a bunch of great coordinators.

As offense changes, defense catches up and vice versa.

It's been a lot.

It's kind of a fun challenge for me, to be honest with you, to try to remember what it was like back then.

And

now what we're facing is a whole lot different.

But it forces everybody to kind of keep up and change with the times.

And it's been a whole lot of fun.

I think Drew Brees said, as you get older, you're just trying to keep your body up with your brain.

And then when you're young, it's like you're trying to do the opposite.

So when you talk about brain and you say you just rattled off a bunch of the defenses you face, there's a cyclicality to football, it feels like.

Are you pulling from early days right now whenever you're seeing some stuff or thinking of that?

Is that happening to you before every single snap?

Are you like, how do you think?

Yeah, sometimes.

Or if I'm watching tape during the week, I'm like, oh, you know what?

This reminds me of.

This is kind of what so-and-so used to do, maybe out of a different front, or they run this, you know, pressure off of a different front or something like that.

So, yeah, I'm always talking about that, talking about, hey, where did this defensive coordinator come from?

What tree is he in?

Oh, he learned from him.

This is the thing he might pull from the past.

All that kind of stuff.

I'm sitting there wasting my time thinking about for sure.

Yeah, I love that.

And dissecting the defense is what you old fucks can do.

You know, that is the entirety of it all, especially if you can still just.

I mean, just so good.

B.A., what'd you say earlier today?

He's the only guy I went out and watched warm up every time we played him.

And just because I was amazed at the throws he could make in warm-ups.

I think I watched him and Kelly Moe up there in Detroit during warm up.

I think you guys hits crossbar like six straight throws, alternating each other.

And it was like the dumbest display of ball throwing that I've ever seen.

We ended up winning that game, though.

Hell yeah.

I didn't do anything.

I didn't do anything.

Still won't.

That Andrew Blunt, fourth down, scramble.

Oh, Donnie Avery.

We had so much fun in that building.

That was a walk-off, brother.

We went running up that tunnel.

I didn't do shit.

I had a great time.

It was awesome.

I'm sorry that happened to you, but it was a great night in Detroit for me.

Yeah, that place was beautiful.

On that note, throughout the history, go ahead, Con Man.

Yeah, Matt, unbelievable game winner on Sunday.

although it felt it feels as though me maybe ba ty could have made that throw just because nobody was around him was that the easy is that the easiest game winner you've ever had and then when you realize there's 10 men or actually did you realize there were 10 men and if you did did you kind of have to you know hide yourself from smiling or realizing that oh my gosh the cults just gave this game away whoa Well, it was a nice, you know, it was nice of them to leave one off for me.

I wasn't expecting that out of the timeout, but it really didn't affect that place because

Tutu still had a guy on him.

Tutu just ran an unbelievable route.

And, you know,

I said this, you know, I think in a press conference after the game, but it's kind of like a clear-out route.

It's the back, it's the fourth real

progression read we're looking at, but in man, it kind of comes alive.

And just happy for him.

He's kind of had an up and down start to the season, but an unbelievable way to finish it, man.

Just happy for Tutu.

I think I watched a mic-duck between Peyton Manning and Ray Lewis.

And peyton manning was telling ray that he only has 10 people on the field it was uh red's gonna play you only got 10 ray you only got 10 and then you see ray's head start looking around and then he calls a timeout and then they actually did only have 10.

is there and obviously what an interesting give and take by peyton and ray lewis to have are you a chirper out there do you talk how much are you because you do get fiery we see you get very fiery out there is there chatting from matthew stafford at the age of 37 still on the field uh i don't talk to the other team too much um you know but

I wear the helmet, I wear the pads, I play on Sundays so that I can go act like an idiot and be crazy out there.

If we do something good or bad, I get the mic'd up sometimes, sent to me the full uncut version, and it's some off-the-wall shit.

So I'm just happy that not all of it makes it to the airways, but I do have a lot of fun playing out there.

Shout out to the LA digital and social team and the NFL films people looking out for all these years.

NFL Films have been looking out for guys for a long time.

Yeah, it's going into a vault, but somebody's going to have access.

Don't worry about it.

I said a lot of terrible things about like my own coach there.

It's gone.

Don't worry about it.

Are you sure?

Because if anybody shows that to him, I'm out of a job.

I am sure that.

You know, there's a lot of those things happening.

Shout out to NFL Films.

And I appreciate the fact that you're still human.

Still love it, huh?

Love it.

Love it.

Have a blast.

It's a hell of a challenge, but I still love doing it.

Every day you wake up excited about ball.

Is it like we're on the 16th hole, 15th hole?

Just, hey, let's try to enjoy the hell out of these last, like, are you, have you changed your mentality of like,

who knows how many of these we have, or have you always been like that?

Have you seen that through the progression of the years?

No, I think you always try to be that way, but it's, it's obviously a little bit more evident at the moment.

I mean, I got a lot of gray in this beard right here, so I don't know how much longer we'll be doing it, but I do enjoy the heck out of it, man.

And

I think, you know, with experience, you know, I gained perspective on how much I love this stuff and really missing time in training camp, man, it just gutted me that I wasn't out there.

So, uh, that's a good sign for me to know that I'm still loving what I'm doing.

We were worried about you, everybody was because it kind of was ominous.

You were in that tube, and then you were out, and then you weren't practicing.

You're supposed to practice, and you weren't practicing.

Was there scary times in training camp?

Was there a worry?

Yeah, yeah, definitely.

My clone's having a first, you know,

that's wonderful, dude.

Good clone.

All right, so Matthew Stafford has the records with Calvin Johnson and Cooper Cup, the clone version.

He's about to have the record with

He's dealing to Puka right now.

Well, I'll tell you what, these teeth.

You're right.

Clean people.

Clean that easy.

Let's talk about the Rams turnover on the other side of the ball.

It has to be fun to watch.

Go ahead, Ty.

Yeah, Matt, you know, when you guys get rolling, I think everyone understands what your offense is capable of.

And last year, right before you went on your big run, the kind of talking point was like, well, is this defense going to be able to get there because it's so young?

And then obviously, Jared Vurst comes out of nowhere, finishes the year incredible.

What has it been like watching the development of that defense over like the past year to where they're at now?

It's been awesome.

A bunch of young guys, a couple key veterans in some spots that have really helped solidify it.

They were outstanding on Sunday.

They've done a hell of a job against the run so far this year.

And then when the ball is in the air, those guys in the back end are making plays on it.

Cam Curl with two picks is, you know, I mean, what more can you ask for if you're the quarterback?

So

it was awesome.

It's fun to watch them.

It's hell to practice against them, to be honest with you.

Our front is rushing like crazy.

So

it's a lot of fun to sit on the sideline and have a ton of confidence in the dudes that are out there going out there and making a play.

They hunt, man.

Yeah, they really do.

It is a fun.

You're a fun team to watch, just in general.

I think it's perfect for Los Angeles.

Last question here comes from B.A.

Yeah, Matt, the division right now, nobody's got to lose a record.

I mean, it looks like the toughest division in football.

Where is the toughest place for you to go play personally in the division?

You know, Seattle traditionally did, I mean, they've just done a hell of a job with their crowd.

San Francisco,

you know, is tough as well.

Those two, you know, are the biggest two challenges.

Arizona.

You've got to say, Arizona's obviously tough.

They're going to have to say that.

They're there.

Well, no, it's true.

I mean, you look at us.

We went there and laid an egg last year at Arizona.

So, like, they're a tough place to play, too.

So

it's all three.

B.A., you're right, man.

To me, it feels like the best division in football.

Quarterbacks playing at a high level.

Defenses are playing really good.

It's tough football out there in the NFC West right now.

How about favorite place you've ever played?

Can't be Detroit, can't be SoFi, can't be Athens.

Lambeau is my favorite spot.

I love Lambeau.

The tradition, the feel

walk out that little tiny tunnel.

I feel like, you know, Bart Starr worked out that tunnel.

I mean, it's just, it's an awesome feel.

And I love the history of the game, and you feel like you're a part of it when you play there.

We appreciate you joining us.

Good luck the rest of the way and hold it down for the old guys.

Hell yeah.

Hold it down.

You look great.

You're spinning it.

Appreciate it, guys.

Thank you.

Ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl champion, Matthew Stafford.

Yay!

Thursday night football.

49ers versus the Rams.

Rams favored by five and a half.

Brock Purdy.

Yeah, why is he on the graphic?

Is he definitely playing?

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, $200-some million.

$200-some million dollars.

Just wondering.

Toe is hurting.

Short week.

Sore toe.

Could get him two weeks break.

Could get him potentially two-week break.

Yeah, you better play, Brock.

After that stinker.

We love Brock.

Got to get out there and play ba you gotta be out there baby you gotta be out there

it's all about availability yes it is the greatest ability is availability that game is awesome yeah thursday night football

and the los angeles rams exciting brand of football like always going to be seemingly technically sound okay sean mcvay is literally running routes with them out there he's a good ball coach right it feels like sean mcvay not just obviously incredibly handsome good talker fast talker and everything like that substance wise as a coach he's a great coach.

Like, that doesn't really get talked about much with Sean, I think, because he's so young and he looks like he's 12.

They're always good, it feels like.

Yeah, when you look at that lineage of where he came from, you know, through the Shanahan system and all the people he's been with,

he got great background in his coaching ability and his knowledge, and he knows how to teach it.

He knows how to teach it, and he brings a lot of enthusiasm to his guys.

I like that.

That's the thing you see most.

Like, because in the league, you got to coach with intellect, number one.

Like, we got to know, we can trust you that you're going to put us in good positions.

But it seems like he has the intellect, he has the energy, and like he can communicate, like, he can get what he wants across to the team.

Set it out.

They always look like they come ready to play.

You talked about the defense, so it's going on both sides of the ball.

And you talked about not only the coaching tree he's come from, but the coaching tree that he's already put out there and being so young in his career, so many head coaches out there running some form of his offense.

On that note, just got a text from Orlovsky.

He said, what Zach Taylor's running is very different than than Sean McVay now at this stage.

And yes, I think the system hurts the offensive line if you were wondering unsolicited.

Okay.

Use what Dan Orlovsky.

You don't know.

So much run game in McVay and the Rams.

I think Kyra Williams had like over 300 carries last week.

So some of his personnel and Joe Burrow, Matt Stafford, both phenomenal quarterbacks, different though.

I saw it at the very end.

We should have thanked him for it.

Did you see the drawing he had of me up there?

Yeah, the top

right for us.

What's it?

Armis?

Oh, I forget what the name is.

They always do something zany, right?

Yeah, they are zany bunch.

Yeah, we appreciate that.

Love that.

Good energy.

Stafford.

So good.

He's a ball player.

I think it was that was old, old CBA.

That was old, old CBA.

Would have been a good time to be a number one overall pick.

Yeah.

Who was the last one?

I think it was like 15.

Was it Bradford?

Yeah, Bradford.

Yep.

That lucky SOB.

Year before Cam.

I think Cam was the first in the new CBA.

Oh, geez, Cam.

So sorry.

I mean, it was vastly different.

And he didn't get NIL.

Yeah, it was vast.

That's a good point.

I didn't think about that.

It wasn't called NAL back then.

Just to be clear, deserved it.

Without a doubt.

Every pity.

Absolutely deserved it.

Okay, let's get to

if it happened.

Man, that Under Armour deal was so awesome, though.

I bought Under Armour because it came out.

If it was good for the...

that's maybe the

most athletically gifted person I've ever seen in my life with these eyes.

If Under Armor is good for him, it's good for me.

I think it was a good business decision.

Whoever made said business decisions, whenever it made said business decisions.

People forget about Cam Newton, I think.

That is happening.

He was unbelievable.

Even the Juko days where he's freestyling in front of the entire team, it's like this dude has always been.

front mind like legitimately he's got interesting hats i will say he does look at the roster he was on at Auburn, and how many guys played in the NFL when they won the national championship.

And then people would say,

look at everything else.

Yeah, the Panthers last year.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, Cam was special talent.

Now, on that note, that's no BS.

It is time for one of our favorite segments of the week.

BS or no BS with BS.

Okay, we're going to say a statement that has been made by somebody somewhere, and we've seen it.

It's not us saying it.

No.

Just like the Po pull you blow it call him.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, but it was somebody else.

It was everywhere on the internet.

I couldn't stop what.

We were just trying, we're trying to figure out whether or not it's BS or

no BS.

All right, here's the first one.

The Bengals might be dead, dead.

So a lot of people were saying after last night, especially no Joe Burrow here for the foreseeable future, no protection of quarterback anyways.

If Joe Burrow's in there,

inevitable almost for him not to be playing this season, seemingly a reoccurring thought.

They gave a lot of money to two wide receivers.

Trey Hendrickson's still not happy, not around long term, and they just got their asses beat on primetime.

So the statement is the Bengals might be dead, dead.

Is that BS or no BS, BA?

That's no BS because they can't block anybody.

Okay, okay.

Right now, they can't step anybody.

I mean, it's amazing to me that that is a very talented football team.

And

Jake Browne's had had games, but even he didn't have a chance to back foot last night a few times, and they're all over him.

So if they don't get a running game, they're going to kill him.

Okay, so the DC leaves, obviously Lou Ann Aromo.

There's all the drama in the offseason about the deals that still haven't really been figured out going into this offseason.

Trey Hendrickson, most specifically.

Are they going to think about being sellers, you think, this year?

Would the goal be here to punt on a year if you're the Cincinnati Bengals?

Like, what do you think is?

If they are, in fact, no bullshit, dead, dead at this point.

No, I think they're going to go fight, fight fight every week you know i mean that you're never gonna give up in this league and uh you know zach's gonna be fighting for his job again and uh you know that defense uh they gotta have some more pride about them d butt you think they're dead dead yeah definitely dead dead and no

historically bad run game too i don't even know the exact numbers but chase brown and he had a decent year last year but no run game so you talk about you know coming from that mcveigh tree you got to have a run game you got to have play action i don't care how talented your receivers are on the outside you can't be a drop back passing offense, especially with your backup quarterback.

So everybody here with football brain says, you're dead, dead.

We just saw them.

We saw we built the team.

In the offseason, now you have an MVP caliber quarterback.

He can cover up a lot of that shit.

When you don't, shit can get ugly real quick.

And it has.

And we all had to watch it last year.

Never again.

Never again.

Like, let's do that right now.

But aren't they

probably?

They are.

Thanks.

Oh, yeah, they are on Thanksgiving.

Change it right now.

What?

Change it right now.

I think the Cincinnati Bengals Bengals are scheduled for prime time.

Yeah.

Thanksgiving.

Can't have it.

No, can't.

That's a lot of eyes.

Now, we had the Lions for a long time on Thanksgiving.

Yes, we did.

At noon.

Yeah, you're right.

It kicked off the day.

And you can eat the tradition part of that because that was part of it.

It's like, hey, you wake up, you're going to have Thanksgiving lunch with your family.

You're going to watch the Lions get their asses kicked.

No, they always put up a good fight.

It was just devastating.

Yes, that always old out.

It's a part of tradition to watch them lose.

Exactly.

We can't just be throwing in the Bengals because why not?

Okay, especially, and again, I said it yesterday.

This is not Jake Bryant's fault, okay?

Well, I mean, you see it last night, but we don't need to be watching them on Thanksgiving night, okay?

Especially because we're all going to be a little tired

at that point.

We won't watch good ball.

That kind of carries us through.

That kicks off the entire holiday season.

The Cincinnati Bengal's going to be tasked with kicking off our holiday season?

Not on my watch.

And they're going to have a lot more primetime games because Joe Burrow's so freaking cool.

And Jamar Chase has so many cool dance moves.

I hate the Bengals, dude.

This sucks.

Like, genuinely sucks.

And he mentioned.

Why do you hate the Bengals?

They got a lot of cool.

This whole offseason,

just, I hate them.

Can't even go into how much they suck.

They probably have four more primetime games.

But to what Pat said that Dan Uflovsky told him,

can he just change the offense?

Like, can Zach Taylor just go out there and be like, okay, we're going to do what the Steelers kind of did.

We're going to put six tackles out there when we run the ball.

And then when we throw the ball, we're going to chip and help the O line.

Like, why aren't they just doing that?

I mean, yeah, that's a good question.

I mean, you got to help the guy somehow.

I don't know somehow.

I mean,

the jump that they were getting, the Broncos were getting, the tackles weren't even out of their stance.

They had no chance.

And the guy had no chance.

So you got to chip, help something, and run the damn ball some.

And I think that's the big difference where they've gone to a 50-pass attack every week.

Yeah.

Even with Joe.

Joe does some super stuff, you know, that Jay can't do.

Well, they did the, they're doing 50 passes because they just paid 60 million a year to the two wide receivers on the outside.

And we asked the question, to your point, Deebut, the offseason,

you've been around football a long time.

Somebody's been around.

Is this how you build a winning football team?

Everybody with a football brain was like, nope, never have, never will.

This is not how it goes.

The wide receiver thing, he even said it there earlier whenever he was chatting.

Tackles, you trade up and get one of those.

Wide receivers, you get one of those guys in the third round it's like i don't think you can get a chase in the third round or a t in the third round but what they're saying all the ogs of football is like you can have an operable offense with maybe not an outright rock star at wide receiver you can't have an operable offense if you have a bad offensive line like that the wide receiver does not matter you cannot get the ball to the wide receiver you you got to figure out this first inside out i think is how everybody talks about building a team and it did feel like all offseason the bengals were literally starting as far out as they possibly could.

And then they started going in.

And now, granted, they were put in a position where it sucks for them to have to make those types of decisions, obviously, especially with talent that they've had and have grown and everything like that in relationships.

But everybody that knows ball is like, that's not a winning recipe.

And then we watch on Monday night football and score three points and the quarterback is just getting absolutely brutalized.

And everybody says, we told you so.

That is basically what everybody is saying to the Cincinnati Bengals team.

And I don't like that because unlike Toner, I don't hate Cincinnati Cincinnati Bengals.

I like that they're a gritty football team, family-owned football team.

Wish they'd be smarter business-wise.

I think they've tried to, and their fan base treats it like it's a college team down there.

You know, it is a great environment.

The tailgating is insane.

They always fill up.

It's like, it just feels like this particular roster construction might have to be reduced.

You don't like the Bengals.

You don't like them.

Well, you don't have to.

They were selling their TVs at our stadium to their fans.

That was one of the better things they've done.

That's a good hustle.

55-inch TV for 80 bucks?

Yeah, I think so.

But it's not in the parking lot they're doing that

set up a tent.

Yep, and when they're gone, they're gone.

So get down here now and get them is basically what they're doing.

It has nothing to do with hating them.

Bury these guys at 1 p.m.

on Sundays.

Okay.

Thanksgiving can't happen.

No.

I want to have a good Thanksgiving.

Me too.

You think I want to be yelling at my mom and

my grandma and stuff like that, my brothers?

No, because that's what's going to happen.

We're going to look up.

It's going to be 28-0 with 11 minutes left in the first quarter.

And we're going to be saying, what are we going to do here?

We're going to talk to each other.

You know what we're going to have?

Leftovers.

Leftovers.

Leftovers.

Yeah, but you're going to have to talk.

Now there's no distractor.

And because you're going to have to do that, what are you going to say?

Politics, religion.

I'm going to go get liquored up first, and then I'm going to come back, and then we're going to talk politics and religion.

And we're going to be doing that boozed up, and it's going to be maybe the worst Thanksgiving ever.

And that's all because.

The Bengals are on prime time.

Now, who do they play?

It doesn't matter.

Well, because hold on.

What if it's the Bronze?

If it's the Browns, Miles Garrett jumping over the offensive line and doing belly-to-back German suplex

but if he's doing release super bengals browns if it's bangles browns on thanksgiving night they should fire goodell right now i don't think i agree

i agree ravens ravens browns oh

right now zero zero on thanksgiving night

i think jake browning will slice a dice at ravens defense right now

i think there's a chance and whoever's behind browning yeah they just need to do what the steelers did with darnell washington they just need to bring in that needs to be 12 personnel even whenever they're trying to throw the ball.

They need to assist her.

They need tag teams that.

And you know what?

Let's get a fullback in there as well.

Let's have one wide receiver.

Let's have one route on the outside.

We're paying them too much.

They got to both be outside.

Oh, yeah.

Okay, you're right.

We can't even predict anymore because we're going to have both of them out there.

Good luck, Bengals.

We're pulling for you.

All right, let's go back to BS or no BS with BA.

Go ahead, Con Man.

Yeah, Bruce, Sunday Night Football.

We all watched it and we were all pissed on how it ended.

NFL games should end in ties, and that is definitely the right decision, BA.

Is that BS or no BS?

I think it's BS and I'm part of the problem.

Yeah, because I was one of the ones that in the league meetings opted to go for a 10-minute overtime.

Oh,

this is your fault.

Micah's return to Jerry World is a 40-40 tie because of you?

One of the reasons, yes, we had a game with Seattle and we had like 106 offensive plays.

We couldn't even practice that week.

Yeah, Love, if we'd had to play Thursday night, we'd have no chance.

And it was about player safety.

But I have a recommendation that now, if it's a tie,

both teams go out, you get the ball in the eight-yard line, you score, you get the ball, you score until somebody wins the game.

There are no ties.

Okay, so it's not going to put a lot of plays in.

It's not going to take a lot of time.

No, and it also lets the stars decide.

Let's go.

So I had a golden boot idea.

Okay, golden boot idea.

Have the snap hold kick from 55 against each other, 60, 65, 70.

So it's player health and safety kickers can kick forever and also it's electrifying what you just laid out golden boot much better okay so eight yard line both sides i think offense and defense on separate sides on the field at the same time i think right beforehand quarterbacks meet at the 50 there's a coin it says first or second quarterbacks aren't even picking it's just a first or second thing and then they shake hands then they walk back to their team if this team's first obviously they go they don't score holy shit let's look down at the other end okay this game this play is about to start right here As soon as this play ends, this play is now in play clock down here.

And if they stop, we go back.

They have to go first in that time, right?

And then they go back the other way.

Well, you can't do that.

Yeah, like college overtime, where it's like offense, defense, and then defense.

Defense.

Offense.

Yes, defensive team.

Yeah, be very, very fast.

It wouldn't be that many plays added to the game.

Guys are going to be exhausted down there.

Imagine three straight eight-yard plays.

Oh, my God.

The D-line, everybody's going to be chasing their asses off.

At the end of that whole thing, that'll be electrifying.

Somebody gets a big-time stop down here.

Oh, at like the inch line.

Oh, because eight-yard line, there's some yak potential.

Oh, yeah.

And there's some big shots.

Big shots there.

Boom.

Big shot knocked out of bounds at the half-yard line.

Obviously, rest blow it there.

Yep.

No, no.

Let's go down to the other end.

Wait, you can't do it.

What if it's the check?

Got Travis Hunter.

He's on one end.

He's got a jaw all the way down.

You don't want Liam Cole.

You don't want him.

You want to get to his back.

We don't want problems with Liam.

Yeah, we don't want to get to his basket.

You know what we didn't judge in that tail of the tape yesterday is Liam's got a little bit more.

Yeah, he's lanky now.

Sala being 6'4, I think, is problematic for maybe everybody but Vrabel, MCDC, and a couple others that are coaching currently in the NFL.

Kelvin Shepard, I would give the advantage to over everybody and any former players that are younger and still very fit, I would give them an advantage.

Well, Collum is going 6'2, he said.

Yeah.

Okay, let's make sure this gets a correct.

Why did we change that?

Why did we not change this?

This is outrageous.

There was a clear omission of facts he was 6'2 he's the he is 6'2 he's not 6'1's one no he's 6'2

internet said 6'1.

That's Wikipedia.

His actual college one said he was 6'2.

Actually, yeah, we had might have got shorter.

Yeah, well, we don't know as you get older.

And I'll tell you what, Salah might be 270 at this point.

We don't know what side.

He could be heavy-organed.

Yeah,

especially if he knows he's about to get into a fight.

You know, he might pack on some weight.

But I like the eight-yard line, eight-yard line shootout.

That's brilliant.

I think that keeps the stars on the field.

I think there is an exhilarating, and I think it would end.

Like it would have a prompt ending, and people would feel justified that they got the win, I think, if that was the one.

Yeah, everybody's got a fair shot.

You did it, BA.

You ruined it.

Yeah.

You ruined it by voting for the 10-minute thing, but then you.

All right, last one here.

This is more so a question.

Which Rushmore is BS and which Rushmore is no BS?

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From these two rushmores that you see, Peyton Manning's Rushmore of wide receivers, which is Jerry Russ, Marvin Harrison, Raymond Berry, great throwback, and Tony Gonzalez, to Tom Brady's Rushmore, Jerry Russ, Randy Moss, Larry Fitzgerald, Rob Gronkowski.

You've coached numerous dudes that are up here, Peyton and Tom included.

Which Rushmore is BS and which Rushmore is no BS, B.A.

I think they're both no BS.

I mean, I don't know how you take any of them off.

They're just eight great players and different areas.

And I might throw John Mackey in there.

Oh, who has a ward named after him and was running the premier tight ends ever back in the day?

But

because I am a little old school.

Yeah, you are old school.

Tell me about Larry Fitzgerald, though.

Tell me Rob Gronkowski.

I don't want to spoil the episode.

Rob Gronkowski, we all get a reminder, I think.

Yes.

Because everybody sees Rob having a great time literally everywhere.

Doesn't seemingly take anything serious.

I love that he is still just always himself.

Now, I think he's a genius too.

I don't think a lot of people give him credit for being a genius.

He is everywhere, seemingly getting paid all the time, too.

So let's make sure we acknowledge the fact that he has big-time brains when it comes to being retired.

But what they talk about him playing football, both Peyton and Tom, they start debating with each other basically about how great Gronk is.

And maybe Gronk's the greatest.

Yeah.

Maybe Gronk's the greatest of all time.

They get in that entire thing.

It is a great conversation.

You got the coach Gronk and Fitz.

What are your thoughts on Gronkowski?

I think people appreciate Gronk.

I think they like Gronk, but I don't think there is like the, Tom Brady's the goat.

I don't think there's a lot of like, hey, Gronk might be one of the greatest players of all time narrative out there.

Do you think that should be?

And what did you see from Gronk behind that?

Yeah, I definitely think it should be because he's such a unique animal.

He can block like a tackle.

He can catch over the middle and you can put him out wide.

And he catches the phase, one hand catching.

He's just unbelievable skill set all over the field and uh it was such a he's a total mismatch we thought darren waller was a little bit of a mismatch the other night that's gronk every day okay so let's talk about that this is what tom had to say about gronk uh on rush moron x

there are very few guys that could

could get open on someone rob gronkowski could get open on darrell rivus on the best corner of all time when ocho sinko couldn't when t.o couldn't when other guys couldn't, Gronk could get open on with his size and length.

So, you're talking about the best cover guy in my mind that I ever played against was Darrell Rivis.

And there were plenty of times where I threw balls and I practiced in 2014.

Rivus was a teammate, and I would put Gronk on Rivas, and Gronk was the best I ever saw getting open on Rivus.

And that was because of size, and it was a tough matchup.

But that's the only reason.

That's a tremendous compliment.

I mean, like, you know, you know, corners are supposed to be able to cover tight ends, and they can't.

That means the guy, the guy's guy's unique.

Yeah.

He's a beast.

Yeah, this was, there was final spots being up for grabs here because there's only four, obviously.

So Tom just continued to pile on for Gronk.

Yeah.

Because Randy, I think everybody knows Randy Moss is going to be on there.

Got to be.

I think everybody knows Jerry.

Probably going to be on there.

No bigger.

Those final two spots for the one rushmore from Peyton and Tom's Brains coming together, it got really heated in it.

I'm going to be honest.

It is great conversation, great football conversation, but the Gronkowski memory lane was fantastic.

And I think a lot of people forgot about it.

Yeah, it's incredible.

I forgot about it because once, you know, BA stole Brady and Gronk go to hell.

Everyone from New England kind of forgot those errors of them when they're in the Patriots.

Seeing the Gronk, you know, highlights are unbelievable, especially when you think about his time in Indy when he just pissed on both of you guys constantly.

Hey, it doesn't get talked about, though.

I was with him as a rookie.

In his first practice, you knew he was going to be special.

Would have probably been a top 10 pick if he didn't have some back issues coming into the draft, but just a freak show in the run game and in the pass game.

You look at the other tight ends receiving-wise, Gonzalez, Gates, Kelsey.

Now it's a conversation, but when you talk about a total package, run game, receiving, not a conversation.

Tom Brady talked about how we were running behind him.

Our rush game was where's grunk.

Our pass game, where's grunk?

I mean, he's like, the way they start talking about it, especially during the greatest dynasties of all time.

And we asked BA to put together his quarterback, Rush Moore.

He has Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Terry Bradshaw, and then he cheated a little bit.

Johnny United and Otto Graham will share that one up there.

Any quick thoughts on why you couldn't make just four, BA?

Yeah, well, you got to go old school a little bit.

You know, and Otto Graham had the best quote I've ever heard.

He came in our locker room in Cleveland one Saturday morning.

He said, he looked at Tim Couchy and Kelly Holcomb.

He said, look, I never threw a bad pass in my life.

Even the ones that got intercepted would hit my guy right in the chest.

Look, I've got to have that type of moxie on Mount Rushmore.

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I have a 47-year coach, Super Bowl champion, Coach BA here.

Yeah, baby, BA.

Great to see you, coach.

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The talks of tables here at Boston Connor and at Tai Schmidt.

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Congrats to your Dolphins last night.

They look like a great team.

Down the board.

Also, congrats to one-half of the hammer.

Dad.

Cowboys, Bubba Gampino.

Congrats to your Dolphins last night, Gumpino.

You've certainly rode the wave here of emotions with this team.

Are you all the way back in?

I know the Tyreek Hill news is certainly devastating, and he has posted thank you for all the prayers and love.

He's at the hospital.

We assume that his recovery and rehab is going to go well and smooth, but that's a devastating injury.

I mean,

that's one they talk about long term.

Yeah.

Like

your knees side, especially for how explosive, how athletic he is.

It's sad.

It is very, very sad.

But away from that particular which is tough to just say hey away from the guy that we paid more money to than anybody we had ever paid money to and we reset the entire wide receiver market and we said we're going all in offensively with mcdaniel offensive guru and paying tyreek hill we think he's unguardable we're bringing in two we're bringing in a big system it's hard to say without the tyreek hill news that has to be one of the best nights you've had as a dolphins fan in a long long time gumpy by far this season for sure by far what about last year what about last year how did it go last year uh two was hurt a lot so it was pretty rough remember we had snoop huntley Skylar Thompson, Seattle, zero points.

It was a little bit of a rough run.

We got a four-game stretch here.

Browns, Panthers, Falcons, Chargers.

You got a chance.

Four games.

You got to get back in the mix.

Yeah, absolutely.

Do you win three of those?

It's going to be good to have Darren Waller against that Browns defense.

Is that

Cleveland?

Three?

What's that?

Three of those, Gums?

Well, you have to win three to get back in the mix.

Two's not enough.

Don't be saying we're going to play off Swari Super Boy.

It's It's every action Tuesday right now for the Dolphins.

No, I know.

I just want to let them know.

I don't think you need that many.

I mean, the Bengals are banged up.

The Texans are shite.

Like, all of a sudden, those seven teams, you know, in week one that you thought were going to make the playoffs, there's a few that are definitely right now out.

Wild card spots potentially available.

Ravens one and three.

What are they going to be?

Yeah.

Lamar Jackson.

Let's stay in that.

conversation for a second.

I believe the Adam Schefter podcast, who that you were a co-host of, you guys do a great job, was talking about this morning something about Lamar Jackson.

And I just kind of assumed that this would be the case, especially because he ended up not playing for the last quarter and a half of a game in which it was only a 17-point deficit in a huge game against the Chiefs.

And him being on the sideline, obviously, was alarming to all of us.

He had a hamstring strain is how it was being talked about.

There's now kind of indicators for what's happening this weekend, right?

Shefter was saying?

Yeah, Sheffield said that where things sit right now, he gets the feeling that Lamar Jackson is not going to play Sunday against the Texans.

And I can't remember who they have the following week, but then the week after that, they have a buy.

And he said, obviously, you know, it's too early to say that, but he's wondering if they don't try to maybe sit Lamar the next two weeks, get him through the buy to get him healthy, because he said Harbaugh did say, hey, even if this would have been a close game, like Lamar wasn't good enough to come back in.

So he has a legitimate hamstring issue.

issue.

So we'll see.

Yeah, I mean, we'll see what happens on Sunday.

But as of right now, on Tuesday, Shefty doesn't think he's going to play on Sunday.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is former Cincinnati Bengal.

Everybody forgets about that.

That's right.

College football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner.

Ladies and gentlemen, the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, Hofnom A.J.

Hawk.

Hawker, we know you from your Cincinnati Bengal days, and obviously you grew up in Centerville as a Cincinnati Bengals fan.

They seemingly are...

in trouble, especially after losing last night, 28-3.

Baltimore Ravens seemingly in some trouble.

Cleveland Browns have a chance at this thing, even though there's really no expectations offensively for them to be great for that

long of a time.

I mean, the fact that the Browns might actually come out of this thing.

And then the Pittsburgh Steelers, obviously, yeah, they make some plays there.

Then the Pittsburgh Steelers, like the AFC North, Aaron Rodgers, and the Steelers, all of a sudden sitting in a very favorable spot to potentially make it to the dance, AJ.

Yeah, it is.

And starting with the Bengals, yeah, this is a tough one to watch, I think.

And BA hit on it.

Like when you have, you know, they're running a three-man rush and they're both outside rushers are getting off the ball so quick, our guys aren't even out of their stance yet on the outside.

That's just tough, man.

I don't know what it would be like to be on the Bengals right now throughout this stretch and what they have coming, you know, in the future without Joe Burrow for the foreseeable future, that's for sure.

I don't know what you do, but yeah, AFC North, what are you talking about?

The Steelers have to feel very, very good about where they are.

Are we at a point now, Coach, where these teams know who they are?

Like, do we think teams are starting to find out who they are about week five or so you i know nothing matters till thanksgiving like bengals uh playing primetime thanksgiving night we can't wait to that but do you think teams are starting to figure out who they are and if they're a company yeah they should really know who they are right now you should have your identity uh down pat now injuries changed a lot of things you know when you lose your quarterback are we going to become a running team we got to change things uh lose a couple tackles you know we got to bring tight ends in that changes things but you should know who your football team is right now all right let's talk about some drama around the nfl it's only continuing to build.

A.J.

Brown, after a huge win against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Philadelphia Eagles continue to be dominant.

I mean, the Philadelphia Eagles just go into somebody else's house and beat them.

Four half.

What's that?

Four halves.

Court was more of that game, Coach.

I mean, there was almost some more cardiac Baker coming back and four straight comebacks in the fourth quarter would have been electrifying and great for the Baker-Mayfield tail.

But the Philadelphia Eagles do what they do.

They're solid.

Block, get a big block in the kicking game.

Jalen does his thing.

The tush push, innovative.

And they don't even need to really throw it to the wide receivers, B.A.

What are your thoughts?

Do you feel good about where Tampa Bay is after losing to Philly?

And what are your thoughts on Philadelphia before we dive into the drama over there?

Oh, yeah, I feel real good about Tampa Bay's situation because there's still all the injuries and the guys that are missing.

But, I mean, they didn't complete a pass in the second half.

And they dug too many block kicks for the Bucs.

Block kick every week, that's trying to change.

But I love the imagination Nick Sariani and Kevin did last week with the touch push and the little shuffle pass.

And I mean, everybody's got them.

They knew they might get stopped going up the middle, but it was great coaching.

Yeah, Philadelphia Eagles are on fire right now.

I mean, that defense, like, I love their defense.

Zach Bond is awesome.

Campbell, I think he's going to be great the rookie linebacker they have.

But two, and we talked about it preseason, my sophomore superstars.

I had two two eagles quin yon mitchell and cooper degene and like those are probably the two best corners playing like uh quinyon followed ibuka a lot in his face one of the best press corners in the league already and cooper degene played some outside corner played a nickel but like his awareness physicality all like those two those are two young superstars i'm talking about like top 10 players on defense right now cooper degenees uh playing outside and inside a little bit of a hybrid yes absolutely and they need they need help as on the base because they're at the outside corner.

You know, you had Ordori Jackson out there.

You traded for Jaquorian Bennett from the Raiders.

So they've been kind of looking for somebody out there.

He can play out there like 1,000%.

But when they do go sub, which they play majority sub with that quarters kind of shell that Stafford kind of talked about with Fangio, like you got to have Cooper DeGene in the interior of that defense when they go sub.

We're so proud of Cooper.

Yeah.

Aren't we?

Yeah.

I'll take a bullet for that guy.

Great Hulk guy.

He is.

One of the best ever.

How come

he's going to start a trend, isn't he?

This is going to become a new thing.

What's that?

I don't know if they're making a whole lot of Cooper DeGenes out there.

What are you saying?

What do you mean?

Just uber, uber, uber athletic white guys.

Well,

I just don't know how many of those guys are growing on trees.

You're talking about Caucasoids out there.

Yeah, exactly.

Guys who can go line up in the NFL and you're not like, oh, Jesus Christ, there's a white guy out there.

We know Seahorn.

Exactly.

Seahorn was so good.

Think about the things that have been said to these wide receivers in the NFL, in meeting rooms, about Cooper DeGene locking them down.

Legitimately, just think about it.

Don't let this guy lock you down.

You cannot let this dude lock you down.

You know, that's happening.

I might argue that Cooper DeGene causes the most amount of shit talk maybe in the history of professional sports.

I would say that.

He's got some shit to him, too.

Oh, yeah.

He got it.

He got a bullshit taunting penalty.

Came down, made a great tackle, kind of did the AI step over, which I love.

Bullshit.

I hate the tone.

I know it's a point of emphasis coming into the season, but he definitely got some shit to him.

Was it Jordan Nelson?

Jordy here's the walkover, I believe.

Yep, give me that.

Give me that.

It's football.

Lou Diner, right?

I believe that's who he steps over in that entire thing.

But the thought of Cooper Dejine being maybe the greatest of all time.

Okay, greatest white of all time on defensive side of the ball.

That's a huge cornerback.

Corner?

Yeah.

He's He's already here.

Wow.

What about Denver?

Already there.

Already the greatest.

What about Denver?

Yeah, what about Rodamo?

Oh, yeah.

No, he's good.

He's good.

He's good.

He's good.

He's got to pick it up a little bit, but it's not a question for me.

The greatest white DB of all time.

Not DB.

We got Harrison Smith.

We got Eric Widdle.

I won't go DB.

Corner.

Cornerback.

How many are there to choose from?

It doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter, AJ.

It doesn't matter.

We got it.

We're going to.

Congratulations.

I'll tell you what.

You put him out there on that island.

A little bit more sunscreen.

Yeah.

Okay.

It's a little brighter out there.

Okay.

There's a lot of that stuff.

He's the greatest of all time.

We need to celebrate that.

It's early.

That touchdown in the Super Bowl.

Yeah, exactly.

I mean, this guy is.

Yeah, huge.

So you'd think you'd want to be teammates with that guy.

So this is what happens, Ghost BA.

This undefeated football team just got out of the Super Bowl.

Okay.

They also paid wide receivers, very good wide receivers.

And what we have learned in the NFL, which is why we were so impressed with what Sirianni was able to do last year, is if you got two stud wide receivers and their entire legacy, their entire bag and career depends on how often either an offensive coordinator is deciding to get them the ball or a quarterback is deciding to get them the ball or an offensive line can protect for a quarterback to get on the ball.

A lot of things depend on other people for how they're going to be remembered and how much money they're going to make.

So I think the wide receiver in nature is naturally a little bit louder than everybody else, you know, a little bit more demanding, we would say.

The position as a whole kind of has that.

So balancing two superstar wide receivers as they were a run-dominant team last year, I thought Nick Siriani did an incredible job with that.

The wide receivers were actually the guys that dumped the Gatorade on Siriani, Devontae and A.J.

Brown.

Then A.J.

Brown gets targeted nine times, has two receptions, and they don't complete a pass in the second half of a game in which they go to 4-0.

A.J.

Brown, who's a guy that we saw him go for 100 plus just a couple weeks ago, still got it.

Absolute beast.

He puts out a tweet: says, if you're not welcomed, not listened to, quietly withdraw.

Don't make a scene.

Shrug your shoulders and be on your way.

Now, doing all that does the complete opposite of everything in the middle of that particular take there, but he didn't outright say anything.

So I think he's still good.

He's just saying,

Worse people wouldn't do it the way I'm doing it right now.

So good for me.

Here's Nick Siriani answering to A.J.

Brown about his importance on the team.

Yeah, yeah.

You know, obviously AJ is very important to this football team.

You know, I know he wants to contribute.

I know he wants to contribute and, you know, do the things that he's capable of doing.

And, you know, but

yeah, I mean, so it.

Again, he wants to contribute into these wins.

And he's had a couple games where he hasn't been able to you know it and for different reasons of why we haven't in in these games so um

but I question nothing about you know his desire to play great football his desire of being a good teammate his desire to be here

we'll go to Jeff Nyberg and then John McMullen

Nick how do you how do you go about addressing a situation like that with AJ is it's something you talked to him about last night after it happens do you talk to him today have you talked to him and what was that conversation like?

Good question.

Yeah, obviously, you know, always talk to him.

Somebody I talk to on a daily basis.

I try to reach out to all our guys on a daily basis and won't get into

any

private conversations that we have

with any of the players about any topic, right?

That's a sacred relationship between the head coach and players, and we'll always keep that private, but always in constant communication with all these guys.

Okay, Coach BA, wide receiver position and head coach relationship is obviously one of those ones that has been seen publicly.

You're a part of one of them with AB, obviously, with how that whole thing goes.

And from what I've heard, AB worked his ass off, showed up at everything, but obviously expected ball as well.

A lot of other wide receivers, same situation.

How do you think Coach Siriani handles this?

And what do you think AJ Brown's like endgame is here?

Do you think he wants the ball more?

Do you think this is a way to try to get the ball more?

Do you think he wants out?

What do you think it is?

And how would you handle it?

I think he just wants to contribute to the winning.

You know, they've had so much success.

I think Nick's handling it perfectly.

It's a personal thing between he and the head coach, he and the receiver coach, he and the quarterback.

And they've got so many weapons.

There's just one ball, you know, and one guy can't get it all the time.

So if you're doubling him, Devonta might get it.

Or they might start doubling Devontae.

He'll get it.

I think there are ways to get

cheap catches.

All right.

Do you feel like like you got to do that sometimes?

Oh, hell people.

Hey, we've got to get him into game.

I got to get him.

He's got to have a ball in the first five plays because they're looking at the script.

When am I getting a ball?

Where's my play?

First 15.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, first thing.

And I've had a few of them.

It's like, okay, I'm good.

I'm going to get this screen.

I'm going to get this ball on this one.

Okay, I'm happy.

I'll play my ass off.

All right.

If you don't, say.

I didn't even think about getting the first 15 either a couple days beforehand or the night before, and just being like, I'm not even a part of this.

What the fuck is this?

And so you go into the game mad almost.

Oh, hell yeah.

You're going into the game pissed.

And then whenever it ends up happening, how the script kind of laid out to it, then there's even more.

And A.J.

Brown's like, I don't want to be.

He's kind of Trey Hendrix in this.

It's kind of Trey.

I don't want to be the guy that says this, but what the fuck is what he's basically tweeted there.

And Siriani having the juggle that's going to have to be a real thing for this team because they're very good without throwing the ball.

I mean, they're they're 4-0 right now.

They're fresh off a Super Bowl champion.

I mean, like,

there's no end in sight for this team.

If they weren't winning, it'd be a big problem.

Winning solves a lot of these issues.

All right.

If you're one and three and this shit's going on, it's a whole different story.

Do you think one loss brings this conversation to the forefront yet again?

No, they're still going to be in first place.

And

I think this team's pretty tight.

You could tell.

And I think there have never been a great wide receiver that I've coached that didn't want the down ball.

All right.

It's your job as a coach to get him the ball.

So you're saying you think maybe the script will change a little bit.

Let's go ahead and just put him at running back here.

Yeah.

We can wheel route this thing.

And if he doesn't want it to be a rush, he wants it to be a reception.

We'll have Jalen back up a foot and kind of just give him this ball.

Do the run draw.

Let's get A.J.

Brown in this game.

You think that happens?

And that's what he's doing this for, for sure?

Oh, I know that happens.

We've done it many times.

Go ahead, Connor.

Yeah, I think this is like the third straight year A.J.

Browns do this.

So either say your piece or shut up, stop doing it.

It's annoying, but

for you, like when D-Bud and Pat talk about, like, hey, B.A.

would say, hey, this is a five-star game.

You know, we're going to need our five-star players to show up.

But then sometimes you'd say, like, hey, this is a one-star game.

Like, we need our one-star guys to contribute.

Utter guys.

The utter guys.

When it is like a one-star game and you know that the other team is going to take out like a Mike Evans or they're just going to completely eliminate like a Gronk when you had him.

Like, what do you say to those guys?

Because it feels like the strategy for most of these teams was like, hey, we're going to make them make Jalen throw the ball, but he's still not getting the ball.

So, like, what do you say as a coach to your five-star players when you know it's going to be a one-to-three-star game?

Yeah, I mean, exactly that.

You just put it up, hey, look, you're probably getting doubled the whole game.

Your touches are going to be down.

So-and-so is going to have to step up in the middle.

You know, maybe a Kate Otten or whoever your young tight end is.

He gets 10 targets.

And

I think

now, as a coach, too, you move those guys around where it's hard to double them, stack them, release them,

get them little screen pass.

Maybe open.

Just get any, just get them the damn ball somehow.

So I saw the Vikings and Steelers do that this weekend.

Justin Jefferson was force-fed the ball.

DK Metcalf was force-fed the ball.

And I love seeing it, AJ, because too often, I don't want to

poke fun at play callers or offensive head coaches.

Too often it feels like, well, they just took that guy out of the game.

It's like, the guy's really good.

Can we just not get him the ball?

It sounds like BA is like, there is definitely a conversation to be had about getting these guys the ball, even whenever we can't.

I like that the Steelers and the Vikings did that this weekend.

I hope that continues.

Now, Justin Jefferson's going to get...

He had 18 catches in what, like the first half of the year.

Yeah, he did like 25 targets or something.

And they go into the game saying, this guy can't get the ball.

So KOC definitely does that, but like DK getting force-fed the ball.

The studs getting force-fed and offensive coordinators making them get the ball happening around the league, I think feeds into A.J.

Brown going like, we can definitely figure out how to get me the ball.

Puka.

Yeah, Puka Nakua is getting rock.

Devontae's getting the rock.

This is, if they win, though, who cares is how everybody views it, I guess, AJ.

Yeah, as long as you win, things can kind of, they do get kind of swept under the rug.

It'll eventually, I mean, if it continues to go on and on, he's not getting any amount of targets he feels he deserves.

Yeah, it could be an issue, but I mean, that's the problem about having a good team.

It's one of the good, it's a good problem to have as a coach, I guess, when you have a lot of talented players that they all need and want the ball.

But VA is right.

You could find a way.

I would imagine a guy like A.J.

Brown, any stud receiver, would appreciate when a coach finds ways to get him the ball easy and early on in the game.

I think of it more from a quarterback's perspective.

Imagine a young quarterback and having that kind of pressure of trying to force feed the ball to certain stars.

I can imagine that would be an issue.

I don't know if BA had to deal with that at all as a coach, but for a young QB to have one or two guys that somehow will continue to be unhappy if you don't push them the ball enough.

What does that do to a young guy?

It's hard, man.

With those young guys in the huddle and that guy's looking at you,

I'm going to be open, dude.

No, you're not.

You guys say, no, you're not, bro.

They're doubling you.

Throw the damn thing anyway.

I'll get it.

Okay, so there was a moment I think Costanzo

tackle

jumped off sides on a play.

Play was designed for Reggie to get a touchdown.

I forget what.

The play was like Reggie has a walk-in touchdown.

And the way Costanzo tells the story is he jumped off sides.

Oh, my God, what an idiot.

Then he gets back to the huddle.

He already wants to physically damage himself, you know, because that's how he is.

And he's in that huddle.

And then Reggie's just sitting there basically in the huddle, just like looking at him.

And it was at that moment Costanzo realized, oh, I fucked this guy too.

It was like

the way Costanzo tells the story is like one of the best stories I've ever heard.

He's like, I already think I'm getting fired and I think my career's over and I'm heading back into the huddle.

And then I realized, oh, there's one particular guy that hopes all those things potentially are happening at this exact moment.

It was the guy that was supposed to get a walk-in touchdown.

And we're talking legacies and careers and everything.

There's so many things dependent upon for a wide receiver to get the ball.

Yeah.

I mean, that's real, though.

And that's the other part of it.

We always talk about how much of a business this is.

Like, he signed a great deal a couple of years ago.

You're looking around the other guys who are in kind of his tax bracket.

They're producing.

They're getting numbers.

They're getting targets.

And I'm not.

So winning, obviously, that covers up a bunch of it.

And ultimately, we want to be winners.

But to everybody's point, you want to feel like you contribute and all we we know the uh wide receiver wide receiver one the egos and the things like you need like that and that's what makes them great is being a part of the game being the guys that can change the math and these defenses are keying in on 11-2 you coming in every game they're going to have their game records on the board it's going to be 26 and it's going to be 11 in the past game so credit to them and the tampa bay bucks that morrison he's a he's a young dog as well i think he's going to be a great cornerback in this league for a long time mccolumba they got some good good DBs back there and good defensive coaches who are going to take him out.

So the offensive coach has got to do a little more to get 11 the ball too.

Yeah, I hope so.

I hope we get them in.

I hope they continue to go.

They have a chance to be real, AJ.

This team has a chance to be very real.

You talked about the defense, special teams.

Yeah, we're talking dynasty and Siriani is the leader of

like this is a hilarious, this is the complete opposite of the Bills, Bill Belichick.

Yeah,

like literally the complete opposite of it.

It's like showcasing that you can win in a variety of fashions, but you still need the same shit at the end of the day, no matter how you implement it.

And it's like Sirianni's going to have to jump.

This is two years in a row where this is going to, it's a gift, but it's certainly a curse as well.

He's been dealing with his whole career, though.

Why are we going to do that?

Well, and that's what nobody talks about it, but like, you know, because same deal.

You want to take his first press conference.

And like, he is.

He's just, he's a bit of a different dude, but like, you have to have a very high emotional intelligence to be able to deal with this for this long.

Like, he said it right there.

He's like, you know, I got to check in with AJ every single day.

You know, like, there's a couple guys who he knows, like, he's not happy.

I got to make sure I can at least massage this a little bit because it's not just that.

Like, look who they've beat so far.

They've beat three of the best teams in the end.

Like, they beat the Cowboys first week, but they beat the Chiefs and the Rams.

Yeah, the Rams.

And then the Bucks.

Beat the shit out of you, Bruce.

Beat the hell out of you, Bruce.

And I heard Sirianni was like, is this the house that Bruce Ariane?

He was talking shit to Baker.

It was awesome.

Baker and Sirianni?

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

He's chirping him like all game, like going up and down the sideline.

That's Siriani, though.

Have you met Siriani?

Oh, yeah, very well.

I like Nick a lot.

He is.

He's awesome.

He's himself.

They try to kill him.

They tried to kill him.

They were winning games last year, and it was like, this guy,

the reason the Eagles aren't going to win.

When they lose, it's going to be his fault.

They've won five straight.

Yeah.

It doesn't matter who's the weakest league.

But it was a lot of that for Siriani.

Now it's the offense coordinator.

Yeah.

Now the offense coordinator is the one that's like, Need it.

He was his genius this week, man.

Look what he did with the tush push.

I agree.

First of all, level pass

sweep.

The Philly Johns are real pissed they already used that play.

Is that a thought for coaching?

Like, why are they using this right now instead of, you know, the divisional round?

No, because they would have lost a damn game.

They didn't score.

Well, that's Buccaneer's bruce right there.

So that is how he gets it.

270-yard touchdowns got to brought it back.

Go ahead, AJ.

It helps their tush push as well because now you got to think about, hey, they're not guaranteed to run the tush push.

They can run outside as well.

Anything you put on tape is good for the future.

But on that note, if they would have just continued and then in the biggest moment dropped that shit out there, Siriani would have been a genius.

I am a genius.

You fall for the trap.

Now, granted, that's Vita Veya over there, too.

Remember, Vita Vey and the Bucs did beat the Tush Push.

Kind of the antidote.

So them actually just being like, yeah, we're not doing that again.

No way.

Is Vita Veya still on the team?

Yeah.

he's so oh remember we beat the levante david said we handled the tush push we'll be ready for it we'll try to do it again or whatever and that's like a probably uh i assume tampa buccaneers defense is very proud of that like oh yeah this game this play that was going to change rules of games because nobody could stop it we stopped it and then all week serian is like look at them down there they're gonna

we got it we got it and then just

hook line and thinker we're going around wait till i see what we do yeah wait till i see what we do genius man and then aj Brown's like, could we not have put me in there, maybe?

Yeah.

Give me the ball.

Okay, couldn't I have done the little skippity-doo-dah in there instead of the guy who just paid two years early in the entirety of it all?

Good luck to the Eagles.

With the expectation after all of this happens, and he puts out that tweet, like, would you expect A.J.

Brown to have 10 catches for 150 yards next week?

Yes.

I would at least 10 targets, you know, whether or not.

He gets 10 catches, but the ball is coming his way for sure.

This is like when OBJ joined the Rams.

Remember, like, the first drive?

Yeah.

Was just staffer to OBJ every single play.

Antonio Brown to the Patriots, I think.

Same exact thing.

Yeah, it was like five catches and a touchdown on the opening drive in Miami.

There is a statement that can be made to these guys, like, hey, you are a very vital piece of this entire thing.

Even though if the rest of the game, we're not able to, because we got...

Saquon Barkley back here and we got the offensive line.

You can, you're saying, extend a relationship or an olive branch and saying, hey, we still appreciate you and we're going to need you through this.

Because you never want them to give up, right?

Never want them to even clear out routes, blocking.

You never want your stars to just say, What am I doing this for?

Am I just here at track practice?

The hell am I running 70 yards a clip every time if I'm never going to get the rock?

You can see why they're upset, but also they're undefeated.

Yeah.

So it's hard to, it's hard, you know.

It doesn't really matter.

Yeah, it's a really hard thing to kind of go to bat for.

Let's talk about some other stuff happening around the sports world.

I hate to say this.

Oh, no.

I've really enjoyed watching this European team enjoy this rider couple.

Oh, geez.

AJ, have you seen this?

Yeah, they seem to know how to have a good time.

All of them, they get along so well.

I mean, Rory,

Rory,

Rory,

hey, hey, he's in your head.

Listen to this.

Your head,

Rory,

Rory,

Rory.

Oh my gosh.

Oh my gosh.

Hey,

Rory.

Shut the door.

Okay, so that moment's happening.

That's my first thought was too.

That's a good song.

I don't need to hear you guys doing that shit.

And then you go to the press conference when Rory is asked about a couple give and takes in the crowd.

Not just listen to Rory, listen to the whole team.

Listen to the jocularity and how well this team gets along.

Go ahead, run it, Foxy.

With all that in mind, everything you go through, how satisfying is it to turn around to someone and say, quote, shut the F up and then stiff it to two feet?

Very f ⁇ ing satisfying.

Congratulations.

Congratulations.

It wasn't stiff.

It wasn't stiff, I had to put it.

The jocularity.

There was that.

Shane Lowry, who goes from one don to winning the entire thing with one incredible hole and a great butt.

This guy's standing on bars drinking.

This is great.

Look at

I mean, and then they head to downtown New York right next to the Brooklyn Bridge and take one of the coolest photos that I've seen in Tel Some Truce, a lot of truce in the middle of this thing from Broadway to Beth Page.

New York was built on the backs of Europeans.

And it's like, damn, this was planned out.

They had all this.

Hey, we're going to do this photo shoot.

We're going to go ahead and have all this.

It's like they had a mindset that they were going in here to win for the fifth time ever that Europe has gone to America and won.

You know, the four stripes on their jersey was to, or on their polos was to indicate the four other times that they've won away.

But it's like they had a plan.

They seem to be team, and they had so much moxie.

And they showed that while they're playing, while they're putting, and now in their celebration, I can't help but respect it.

Honestly, AJ, I can't help but respect it.

Yeah, I respect it.

I mean, this is true.

Like this, they, they're a team.

We talk about all the time on this show.

Like, you can't really measure what puts like a great team.

And you, we've both spoken, hey, the best teams I've ever been on, the guys, we were the closest.

We hung out off the field all the time.

That's what you get, like when you get that feeling when you watch these guys, especially when you watch them celebrating all their little side comments back and forth during the presser.

Like these guys,

they feel like they've all grown up together and that they're all best friends.

And there's a reason that they play well together and they win.

I mean, that was ridiculous.

Yeah, you took the thing for a stroll, legit, and then fish bumped to the crowd.

What?

What?

Think about making putts in front of that crowd.

Oh, yeah.

And then they were just locked in.

But I think it's because to AJ's point that we were kind of talking about them being a team, they've been on like a group text for like two years, these guys.

Like they, they like, they're real family.

It feels like they're wives and girlfriends, all friends.

It's like, they're a real team that came in here and kicked our ass for the better part of two and a half days throughout the Ryder Cup.

BA, we know you're a big-time golfer, obviously big team guy.

And just like all of us would like to see United States win anytime we're taking on anybody else.

On that note, what was your thoughts while watching the Ryder Cup?

And I think we need a...

You know, like right now in the soccer team, they're going through this with Punch, trying to find our style of team for soccer.

Like punch is not necessarily just going with who's been on our national team.

He's trying to find dogs to kind of fit in with our stars, trying to change the culture and mentality more so to be American.

That American team, Foxy's biggest takeaway whenever he looked at the roster, was we had no Moxie.

We got no swagger, no Moxie.

Is that gone from our entire United States of American golf?

Or do we need to maybe pick and choose our team a little bit better so we have a little bit more, like if Keegan Bradley's playing, we have more Moxie.

Do you think they need to think about that?

Oh, totally.

I was hoping Keegan would play, you know, because he is that guy.

He's that fiery guy.

And

he respects the position too much, you know, of being the captain.

But hell, we couldn't make a four-footer for parr.

Yeah, it was embarrassing.

I mean, on our greens?

For America?

On our grass.

On our grass.

Come on, bro.

They're supposed to be fast for us.

They couldn't miss.

They made everything they looked at, and we couldn't make a four-footer for par to tie.

Can't have it.

No.

Not on our grass.

I didn't even think about that.

That's our grass out there.

Well, that's what they said.

We weren't expecting it to be as slow as it was i mean it's just you know and keegan said you know course mismanagement was a big part of it but it's like they care our guys you know they care after the fact when you get embarrassed but you could coming in like these guys that's what they said like we rory mentioned it after they won in rome like we're going to beth page in two years and we're going to win there like guys like scotty scheffler like that's the other thing he's the number one in the world and he maybe isn't built for this format but like he can't go one and four he just can't a lot of talk about the crowd there being obnoxious and an embarrassment to the United States of America and all that type of stuff.

Long Island football.

Yeah, we'd like to say the location and also the outcome early.

Don't love that it's reality, but I felt like that was reality.

Especially we're getting smacked.

Yeah.

United States of America was just getting smacked.

Well, trying to trying to do the celebrations, the non-organic chants and stuff.

Those videos are embarrassing for Americans.

Agreed.

Like, and for our fans, it really is.

They couldn't even figure it out.

And then the throwing or, like, there are certainly things that I don't like at all.

But, like, the chirping, you're going into Long Island, and then America's just going to get bopped in the face.

It's like, I think there's going to be some intoxicated people there on Long Island that are potentially going to...

It's a bunch of...

It's

10,000 Bruces out there just

getting smacked around by the European.

Pump full of whiskey.

Waking up at 4.30 a.m.

with the national anthem playing at 5 a.m.

Yeah.

It's like, I think there's a potential chance that some people are going to act not great.

And I love that.

Okay.

And we'll get better for the next time, hopefully.

Hopefully.

Kind of an expected outcome.

But also,

we get our asses kicked.

I think that only ignites it even more.

But then there was a conversation had in the office earlier.

Did you hear this, Connor?

I think you were sitting right there.

I'm not sure.

When golf, now that golf is getting brought up after the Ryder Cup, yeah.

No, thanks.

Your ears kind of go off?

Yeah, they turn off.

Well, it wasn't really about golf.

It was more so about

just adult males

as a whole.

Let's go to hammer.

One half of the hammer

cowboys AP ton.

What was your take on it all?

I heard you

had a take on it all about the celebrations from the boys and the reaction from the boys and how the crowd acted as a whole.

You said something this morning that I don't think I ever expected somebody's mouth to say, but it was certainly a topic of conversation immediately after it came out of your mouth.

Would you like to reiterate what you said this morning?

I don't know if I'd love to reiterate it.

It was kind of a broad statement, and it didn't include you or D-Buts or AJ or coach.

But I said in general,

maybe

the Europeans are cooler than the US guys.

When I think about it, every European that I've ever met, I'd much rather hang out with them than me.

So

I didn't like it.

I immediately wanted to fight Tone.

Almost kicked him out of the company.

Just wanted to let Tone was almost fired today.

AJ, that almost happened.

It came out of his mouth three feet away from my ear, and it was almost an immediate, I don't want to work with this guy ever again.

I don't want to see his face ever again.

And then there were some points that were being brought up.

And then some states and some maybe generations and some demographics being brought up.

And then some videos were even being displayed.

And it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

We can't be thinking like this.

This cannot even be a conversation right now.

We need to let everybody know: America's cool.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We're cool.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Europe has a lot of songs that they drink and they have a good time.

There's live music at every single place and they all got a personality, it seems like.

We got Nashville.

Yes, we do.

People forget about that.

I will say this.

This is bullshit, okay?

This is your fault, whatever it is.

Hold on, it is.

It's always my fault.

Always is.

Pretty dramatic there.

Well, no, I was all every area of my life.

Um okay.

Hey, I still, brother.

Yeah, we understand.

Yeah, yeah, we understand what you're saying.

Um, I think if you live in the U.S., you shouldn't be allowed to play on the European team, and there'd be like two guys on that team.

Well, I do appreciate what Rory said.

It's the best country in the world.

He did say, Yeah, but he was tweeting us out.

Yep, he did it.

Yeah, exactly.

That was just a pure bait.

The real issue here is that if you take away all the cool accents, you take away the names, the jerseys and everything, the clubs, all the gimmicks, If you mute the videos, you would just hope that the team that was Europe was America.

Like, you would think in your head.

Good point.

Like, that's how the American team should be acting.

Fleetwood's got cool hair.

Shane Lowry's got a great,

how to describe it?

Bag of leaves, body.

Like, there are so many things.

Yeah, wobble body.

He is a little wobble body.

He was a wobble body.

He's lost a lot of weight.

He lost a body, but he's still.

Exactly.

American troop.

I mean, like, that is basically what America's all about right now.

So the fact that that is coupled with the fact that all those, all those videos, they are unmuted.

Okay, you get to hear how cool those accents are.

You get to hear Rory.

And I don't know if you heard the Donald Trump one.

They also, they got Trump as well.

It was awesome.

Trump posted on his social media.

Very funny video.

Good jab from the Europeans.

Like, they got Moxie.

They're funny.

They got cool accents.

I can't do this anymore, actually.

Why?

This one happened to me.

I'm not watching golf until the next rider cup it

i don't think that should be the next thing you watch if anything's gonna like this

shoot you're right i'm not watching the ryder cup anymore it's only majors from here on out okay i like that you're gonna miss out on some good usa chances maybe maybe because you know what else happened this weekend amazing college ball all day saturday amazing nfl football from 9 30 a.m till midnight on sunday i i rider cup who you know why friday is going to be tough to get through i think everybody on earth is talking about friday and ryder cup no doubt yeah friday friday was a long day the Friday was tough.

And we just got

obliterated.

Yeah, they put their theoretical pipes down our theoretical throats.

Jeez.

Well said.

Tyma smoking pipes.

Let's not do that.

Old school, you know how they do it in Europe.

Also, cooler than in America.

They use the pipes.

I think they smoke six dollars.

Yeah, they just call them that other name, and we don't do it.

Which

I would like.

That's I like I actually became more of a Rory fan after the Ryder Cup on our home soil because

Yeah, you can say Euros are cool.

Who's cooler?

It was never and is never a conversation of who's tougher and they were the more mentally tough team in the home soil never say that hostile environment Rory making a putt F you, F you, F you, like all that shit, like seeing Shane, seeing all the boys, Justin Rose walk, first of all, telling geebo hey out of the way making a putt that whole back and forth there and him walking in the putt from like all that like that shows like mental toughness you go into a hostile environment playing football it's like all right it's just us against them and that's that was their thing so for me to come out of this and seeing rory and the european team as a whole as the more mentally tough team that that's so they're mentally tougher they're cooler aj how do we feel about the state of america right now all of a sudden with what tone just brought up i don't like he almost got fired and then a lot of points were thrown in my face Yeah, I think we need to start.

I mean, hopefully they started a couple of days ago already getting the Ryder Cup team situated for the next, what, two years from now?

Where are we playing Ireland?

Is that right?

Oh, no.

We better figure it out.

We better start recruiting some super soldiers to become our next golfers.

I don't want to be that guy.

I think there's a chance, me and you specifically,

maybe we don't the Irish flag.

No.

No, we're not

on the Irish flag.

We're not doing that.

Let's just think about it for a second now.

Where did golf start?

Ireland, Scotland?

Scotland, yeah, yeah scotland whatever let's let's do it man i know and to the point of their tweet you know with the photo about new york and europeans and everything like that is

they might be right you do 23 a meet or any of those things they steal your genetics i think and then who knows where that ends

but then you find out where you're from and it's like

that area over there

a lot of history over here and that needs to to stop being made.

Okay.

U.S.

doesn't lose on American grass ever again.

Never.

boy we need people to go over there and we need to one up sunday's dublin game and have the most u.s people going over to europe in for the ryder cup since the wartimes we

have a few fact checks for mcquaid i think uh he's spot on right he was spot on with what were some of the stats uh that mcquaid had for the dublin nfl game uh if you could definitely get to the tj watt one that'd be good definitely did get some yeah the tj watt one was if you remember after, you know, TJ Watt kind of baited Carson Wentz into throwing it over the middle there.

He kind of got his big paws up and got an interception.

He actually ran over to the Hogan stand and punted one into the crowd, and it was an ode to Gaelic football.

Okay, so certainly possible.

We asked TJ, and TJ's response was.

Stands look pretty far.

Yeah.

I want to see if I can make a punt over there.

So it might have been a tribute to Gaelic football.

It might have also been TJ just seeing if he could ball

real quick.

What was the the other one?

The most amount of people since wartime?

Yeah, well, there are 74,000 fans at the game in Dublin, Lads.

That is the biggest movement of U.S.

souls over to Europe since the wartime.

Since World War II, obviously.

And then, obviously, we found out maybe the Olympics had a double, triple, yeah, quite a bit more, actually.

So that one was on McQuid.

Outside of the Olympics.

Outside of the Olympics, a massive movement, maybe the biggest since wartimes, if you exclude like a couple big events that were overseas.

But the other big one, and

he said, Listen, NFL came into my ear.

Someone, one of my producers, they said, 22 jerseys in the crowd right now, McQuaid.

Get it out there, get it out there, lads.

Say it, say it.

So he wasn't going to take ownership for that.

And he did, you know, mention to Debut's point: hey, you know, there may have been a couple of Houston Oilers jerseys out there, maybe a couple Earl Campbell jerseys and things of that nature, maybe like a Steve McNair jersey as well.

So that one was correct.

That one was correct.

And then he just had to reiterate the touchdown to DK Metcalf, the longest touchdown in Ireland/slash UK game history.

That was for just ordinary touchdowns, passing play, maybe running play, if you will.

That discounts anything special team.

Like a 96-yard.

Like a 96-yard punt return or kickoff return, obviously.

So, you know, it got lost in translation, lads.

Yeah, you're right.

I forgot about that.

Yeah, exactly.

Ireland, apparently.

Exactly.

Ireland clad, not ironclad.

McQuaid was effusive in

his praise for us for not really killing him because he said, listen, lads, I gave you five stats and four of them were wrong.

Okay.

It just completely made him up, lads.

Someone told him to me before the game.

I was excited about the Ireland game, about football coming to the island.

I fucked up.

Hand up on me.

Still love you, lads.

Okay, we still love him, too.

And we appreciate him selling it.

The Ireland game seemingly was a big success.

BA, what are your thoughts on the international expansion?

And what are your thoughts on a Minnesota Vikings Pittsburgh Steelers game?

Pittsburgh Steelers go all in this year.

You think they can win a Super Bowl?

And for the Minnesota Vikings, the Carson Wentz experience was awesome.

If you could just tell me about Sunday morning for you and your thoughts on it all.

Yeah, I thought the Steelers looked really good, and obviously getting the ball to DK Metcalf helps.

And

that is Steeler country.

Ireland is Steeler country.

Ambassador Rooney kind of set that up a couple years back when he was the ambassador over there and

got college football to go over there.

I think it's fantastic.

I don't want to see a team over there.

None of the.

No.

I don't want to see any kind of expansion over there

because somebody's going to get screwed and that travel.

There ain't no big open coming back.

And that's hard.

That's hard on players.

It's hard on everybody.

I don't know.

Are they still talking about the team over there?

The conversation shifted to almost like a division might be over there where there's like multiple teams.

There's eight teams over there.

Somebody still got to go over there to play them.

Yeah, I think the way.

Yeah, exactly.

I agree completely.

There's going to have to be away games, but allegedly they were going to play all their games over there, and then they were going to have a home base.

That was like one of the

last conversations they were going to have.

So you're going to have to build four

headquarters in Europe and then four headquarters in America for these teams.

And they'll play

nine straight away games in America, I guess.

And then maybe some of them will be from Europe.

So some games will be a home game.

That's 17 straight away games, basically.

Logistically, that makes no sense.

And is there enough players?

Is there enough good players?

No, I don't.

We don't have enough tackles now.

Tackles, quarterbacks, you name it.

Is there enough players to add four more teams?

I don't know.

The international team is always a good conversation because we understand what the NFL wants, which is total global dominance.

And it's good for football if there's total global dominance.

But I think just games and festivals are a good way to spread it.

The logistics, remember Concorde.

Yeah.

The Concorde flight.

Jim Ursa told us this, rest in peace, legend.

He was the most unfiltered owner that would tell us what was going on in those one per club meetings and what the future was to look like.

I think they thought that Concorde plane was going to be the key to having a team in London because there's supposed to be like a three-hour flight or something.

From New York to London, yeah.

It was like a three-hour flight.

It was a super jet or whatever.

Yep, supersonic.

Supersonic jet.

They thought that was going to be the connector.

I assume they weren't the only business.

I assume business, business thought that.

I assume finance thought that.

And then I think that thing blew up, right?

And then...

One of them did, yeah.

And then, but now they're trying to bring it back.

And they said like 2030 is like the expected date of when the new version of the Concorde is going to be here.

Because if they make that a three-hour flight, I think then there's going to be a lot of conversation about like we need to.

How do you hit a training camp in off-season, though?

Does a team work?

Do you are you there for camp?

Are you there for your off-season?

I think you would have to have your headquarters.

You'd probably be at home because the amount of players you got to work out.

It's like working out players, too.

Like, how do you sign players during the season?

Yeah.

It would have to be the home base back in America would have to make that decision.

And then, oh, yeah, home base back in America is about to be your full-time home base, too.

So you have to build two full.

That would be a lot.

You'd almost need a dedicated staff for like the United States portion and the international portion.

The international games are awesome, though.

Oh, they are.

I mean, they're a lot of fun.

I mean, I've been a part of a few of them, broadcasting and coaching.

No luck winning, but

it was other than the Munich game.

Blake Bortle was punted a ball right in the stands against us.

He had a hell of a game, but I think Ireland showed up in a big way.

We appreciate them doing that.

And shout out to McQuade, just gassing some numbers up.

Exactly.

Speaking about gassing numbers up, are we in the middle of baseball right now?

Yes.

Okay, baseball is really happening.

We're on ESPN too right now because on ESPN, there's an actual baseball game.

Is this the

playoffs have started today?

The wild card starts today.

Tigers and Guardians are currently playing right now on ESPN.

We have the Padres at the Cubs at 3 p.m.

on ABC.

Red Sox at the Yankees tonight at 6, and then the nightcap is the Reds at the Dodgers at 9.

These, so best of three series, and they're going to play for the next three days consecutively.

All these games, kind of weird in the card round, are at the team with the better record.

They're all at their place.

So like the Red Sox play all three in New York at Yankee Stadium.

Reds had to travel cross-country.

They play all three in L.A.

against the Dodgers.

And then obviously the same for the Padres and the Tigers.

But if you haven't been invested at all, like now's the time to start watching baseball.

Tigers are up one zip right now.

Huge.

What inning is it, Bruce?

Third inning.

Okay, so we got four more hours of that game.

No, no, not anymore.

Not anymore.

Fast.

No, everything's fast.

fast everything's fast and tigers have tarek school on the mount who's one of the best pitchers in the majors maybe the alci young like anytime guys like that though are pitching the games typically go a little bit quicker okay jerry jones did some conversation about how long the games were actually he did a uh weekly hit and he chit-chatted about how these games need to maintain in a three-hour window okay it's uh very important to try to attain a three-hour window now i immediately said jerry's lost his fastball because when it gets overtime there's no time frame for that.

We want more of the electricity.

You know, like good business is to have more electricity.

And then D-Butt immediately counterpointed.

He said, if it's a one o'clock game, though, and you got Bengals versus whoever.

Anybody, and then you got Eagles versus

Rams waiting on deck at four o'clock, and then you have to stick around this overtime game for whatever reason because it goes on forever and ever, and you miss that.

That's certainly terrible.

But when it's prime time game, okay,

Sunday night football, and we get to 40, 40, this thing is, this is now, this is electrifying.

I don't think we need to worry about three-hour windows.

But I do appreciate that all the other games, other than the primetime ones, we're worried about how long these games are.

BA said in the first hour, AJ, that it was his fault basically for the 10-minute overtime.

Is that what you said?

Yes.

I was there.

We played Seattle.

We had 106 snaps.

These guys were exhausted.

We can't be doing this.

This can't be a forever overtime thing.

Do you want a 10-minute clock on it?

Yes, I, yes, I do.

He said BA.

BA said, I am in for that.

Then gets the Micah Parsons return to Jerry World.

Now we got a 40-40 tie in the biggest game, the most hyped game of the year, and everybody hates it.

He put out an eight-yard line start for each offense on either side and kind of handle it like it's a shootout back and forth.

Obviously, one team goes.

If they score, the next team goes, they score, we carry on to the next one.

The team that went second goes first.

Then the team that went first goes second.

Then you just kind of continue on.

What are your thoughts on where we're at with the tie conversation?

And have you digested completely what the perfect answer is?

If you could write the rule right now, what are you doing, AJ?

If I could write the rule right now, I would write some form of what BA was saying.

What do you say?

Eight-yard line, and you guys are on both sides of the ball.

So yeah, a guy like Travis Hunter, he may be jogging back and forth a little bit.

You might have to do that every once in a while, but it would go very fast.

It would limit the amount of plays that these guys would have.

So it wouldn't be crazy, extra 40 plays on the players, most likely.

And the game, it would be quick, and we would find a decisive winner.

And it wouldn't be, I like your golden boot situation, too, but some people would say, hey, let the, you know, let the 11 on 11, let these guys, I want to see DK Metcalf end the game, not a kicker.

So I guess they would have to, okay, it sounded like you would say that.

And I agree.

I'm just speaking for people.

Yeah, I understand.

Yeah, people saying classic situation there.

We do that a lot on this show.

Somebody did say it, I assume, at some point.

Pick six would be a winner.

Guess they can't be on the field, huh?

They would have to be.

It'd be kind of cool, though.

Get off, get off, get off.

Oh, yeah, 22 on 22, though.

Oh, yeah, they turn around, and then offense has to block them.

Dog fight football.

Yeah, it is.

Yeah, it is dog fight football.

What if they both get pick sixes?

Oh, so all the same time.

Yeah.

No, no, because

dog fight football, though.

Pick six, it's over.

Pick six is over, but we got 22 guys on the field on the other side, in my eyes.

I've just learned we got to to take that.

Can't have you on the field.

Sure.

Well, because especially in Travis Hunter's situation, their play ends.

Snap offsides.

Yeah, because he is.

Yeah, Jerry Block starts right away.

That's not a bad play.

Tech go, I'm throwing this in the end zone either way.

So everybody's on the sideline, I guess, if they're not potentially up, but they better hustle.

They got it.

You got to be ready.

Oh, what if they're just around the end zone that they're going into?

Like the other offense and defense, like line the outside of the end zone.

Also, the other guys are joint practice.

It's like a joint practice goal line period.

Guys will get hurt if they're two gimmicks.

Yeah, two gimmick keys.

I'll tell you, we do need something though.

Some form of a shootout.

What does the NFL not have that other sports that aren't as entertaining have?

A shootout.

It's like you can have a shootout now.

Like that is a...

And when do we get to it?

When there's already been 70 minutes of football.

This isn't like...

Yeah, look, think about hockey.

Hockey shootouts are awesome when it goes that like soccer.

When was that soccer?

What last in this past year?

We saw the U.S.

in a shootout, right?

A cup of card.

There's a tournament every weekend.

I know that's the next World Cup, but we watched something happen recently, three, six months ago, I don't know, where the U.S.

was in a shootout.

Dudes were standing on their head, the goalies.

Yeah, so yes, I remember that was with the backup goalie.

Yeah, gold cop.

Gold cop.

They were going after 90 minutes, too.

They weren't doing the regular half-hour extra time in that tournament as well.

So I don't think we should do that.

I don't think it should just be game straight into shootout.

But if it's game then overtime,

why not find out how we can do it at the end of it?

Your fault.

Oh, why not game straight into shootout?

Oh, no, overtime.

I mean, yeah.

Straight to eight-yard line.

Oh, shit, we got action.

What was that?

The XFL?

Four-point play?

Is that what the eight-yard line?

Do we remember what that was?

I don't remember.

Because you go for one, two, or three, I think, after a touchdown.

Going for one, was that like the two-yard line?

Going for two, was that like the five-yard line?

And I think going for three was maybe the ten-yard line.

Yeah, it might have been something like that.

I went now.

The XFL is nothing like the NFL.

Okay, I would like that.

This is

OG XFL.

Like, he hate me, XFL.

Yeah.

No, this is you.

Yeah, this was UXFL.

Oh, shit.

Did they not do that in the old one, too?

I don't think there was three-point conversions in the old one.

No, just in the new UXFL.

You watch.

Is it still going on?

No, I did.

Somewhere.

Did you watch it?

They're bleeding like a sucked pig.

They got to figure something out.

They were losing a lot of money.

And then their quarterbacks did a holdout.

Yeah.

It's like, you guys, it's been publicly stated, you guys lost $40 billion.

I want $20 million in that.

Other.

Did you watch the UXFL?

Would they ever ask you to coach in that thing?

No.

What?

The UXFL.

Talking about them.

They did combine them, I guess.

They did, yeah.

And they should not have got the X out.

No.

They turned that into the UFL.

You should have kept the X was really the only one.

The X is what made the lead.

It was really the only.

Is it still happening?

Got you.

The UXFL.

We got Jake Bates.

Turning Camp for the winner, right?

Jake Bates, legend.

We got a couple of them.

Yeah, Cavante Turpin.

Yep.

Yeah.

Kickoff idea as a whole.

Puka Nakua's brothers in the UFC UFC now.

What?

What's that?

Is he really?

No, he just punched fan that one time.

I was joking.

He could be.

It was good.

It was a swift hook.

It was.

Destroying.

Broke his back slash net during that game.

Almost.

Okay.

That was scary as hell.

I did not like that at all.

There's stars in the UXFL, and

we were happy that Spring Ball exists and there's more opportunities and everything.

That was terrible to watch, though.

Yeah,

that was a tough brain of football to watch.

You almost watched the crowd like in DC when they were drinking beers.

So maybe it'll catch on.

Maybe BA should coach a team.

Oh, there you go.

Hey, Bruce.

You want to head down to Birmingham?

Yeah, the Birmingham business.

It's like NFL Europe, where we allocate players, put those young quarterbacks, put those young tackles out there, and let them play in the spring against each other and get

better quality and then bring them back to camp.

That's what we did with the NFL Europe.

Maybe you do NFL Europe.

They're trying to get a thing in there.

Maybe you reinstitute NFL Europe.

They can get some of the local guys to maybe play.

Like Vinatari and a local Amsterdam guy were kickers.

So a guy from amsterdam was a kicker and then vinny was also a kicker so there's two kickers on the team he was soccer player star beloved over there vinny just trying to make his way on the amsterdam admirals a lot of stars came through nfl europe and i think now would be a good time to launch that yeah now that europe's kind of getting into it great time especially get some ogs isn't tom brady back playing football he is yeah Gronk's back out there too, right?

Yeah.

Well, I think, AJ, have you seen Rushmore on X?

Did you watch it yet?

I've only seen the clips.

I want to watch it, though.

It looks awesome.

Dude, it's very good.

It is.

They get in some real shit in there.

What'd you say?

What'd you say?

I don't know if these guys are boozing or what, but they are wide open.

That sold it for me.

Yeah, they are.

Well, it's not just Tom and Peyton who are wide-ass open in this.

Shaq and Reggie, wide-ass open.

Yeah, nice.

Elon and the other guy,

I mean, you're talking.

This is the most authentic I've seen any of these people.

Yeah.

Costas and Al Michaels is an awesome episode, too.

Sitting on a couch next to each other.

Yeah.

Like this.

Yeah.

Just sharing stories from the last hundred years of sports, basically.

It is available now at Rushmore on X.

Tom, Brady, Peyton, Manning, go through the rushmore of receivers of football throughout the history of the NFL.

Obviously, you can catch the clips on any of the platform.

Full episode available on X.

We're thankful to be a part of it.

Shout out to Ari and Ben coming through earlier today.

We have an interview with them.

We're going to roll out tomorrow.

It's a good time to be alive.

We'll be back tomorrow.

Be a friend, tell a friend something nice.

It might change your life.

Goodbye.

Okay, I didn't do the digital toss there, but I did toss on Rushmore and X.

AJ, we really did this shit now.

Like this show, this Rushmore and X, it's the first time we've really gotten the opportunity to do this.

You know, a lot of other sports production companies get called for everything.

And I'm not going to say,

like, we're friends with some of the good ones.

There's some ass ones out there who have never made anything.

That's true.

And somehow they're like an authority just strictly because they can accomplish the task.

Like, we can do that for you.

And then they do it and it's ass every single day.

Like, that is the sports media.

Somebody has an idea, they pitch it.

We've heard a couple of different guys now come on the show and be like, we want to be the home for sports content.

I think Glenn Powell literally just did it yesterday with his studio.

Box of

Barnstormer.

Barnstormer.

Barnstormer.

He's like, we want to be the home of sports media.

And I assume Glenn Powell will have people around him that will be able to create good content.

But there's a lot of people that have these hubs or production companies that.

I don't think they've made a single fucking good thing.

And somehow they're still able to fundraise and they're still able to get deals and all this shit.

So I talk shit on these people pretty good, like pretty loud, you know, pretty, pretty loud.

I, I, uh, two people, I say, this guy makes ass.

Why would I ever, why would I ever do something like that?

So this show

got shot audio, and you'll hear some audio glips through the entire thing.

We tried to fix the shots, not really our thing.

The booking, all RE, like everything was basically done.

And they had a couple episodes made.

And Ari was like, what do you think about this?

And I said, where's this going?

And And he said, it's going to live on X, which is a huge deal for us because we use X a lot.

So them investing in shows on X is a good thing.

But the people that edited it clearly have never been on X in their life, like never have used the thing.

So I watched it and I said, I think this is shite, to be honest.

But this is really good booking.

Like the episode is like an hour and like 20 minutes or something.

Like, I was like, this is not.

I don't know what you guys think you're doing.

You're like on X.

This is just, I don't know what you, because he's friends with Elon.

So he's like, why don't you edit it and I was like

okay and they just started sending us files literally just started sending us files just a couple months ago so then we talk Bailey dirty D-bone foxy myself I guess you could include me in that thing we go to work on this thing and we start creating these shows and all of a sudden we're watching them we're like this is really fucking good

these are really really really good shows and then all of a sudden we become the production company for this so this is our first time getting a chance to do this the guest lineup is absurd Oh, yeah.

It's breaking down, I think, some

real maybe walls on what X is going to try to become too, because X is trying to get into the content game.

They're trying to do some YouTube.

X is trying to be everything.

We want to be YouTube.

We want to be X.

We want to be Instagram.

We want to be this.

So, them, you know, getting this deal for X exclusivity and then us being a part of it, we're very lucky, and we think it's a good show.

Like, I think it's a very, very good show.

I wish we would have rolled out a couple episodes, but that decision was made before I was allowed to speak.

So, next Tuesday, another episode coming.

That's incredible.

There you go.

Is what you need to know, AJ.

It's teaser.

Yeah, the lineup is fucking outrageous, AJ.

What's the additional content available on YouTube via the Graham and TikTok?

Those are all the clips.

So, we're going to clip on all the other platforms.

Full episode available only on X, exclusivity on X.

So, YouTube is up and running.

And once again, this show had zero handle, no nothing.

Nothing.

No.

I would have that.

That's kind of important to be, to carry it where it's carrying.

I mean, Ari and Ben just got X accounts.

Yeah.

You know, like the host of the show, just the people that were editing it, I don't think it ever been on.

It was an honor to be a part because Ben and Ari, I don't even think they knew this while they were doing it.

They created a show that nobody else on earth could create.

Like Ari's relationships through business throughout all these years has ties with all these people that are the top of their industries and it's like he gets them to open up it is it's a very good show we're lucky to be a part of it i do wish we'd have another episode to follow up on yeah for sure tomorrow but you know any name you don't know

their story is unbelievable and you're going to want to know their name too like just looking at that list i forget those names but then i think of the episodes that they're in and it's like oh yeah that guy invented insert coolest shit you've ever made moguls all moguls really you got a lot of mogul talking here There's a lot of business conversation in here.

There's a lot of debate.

There's stories.

There's insights.

There's history of things that I could have never fathomed wanting to know about.

And then all of a sudden I'm learning like, this is a pretty good fucking show.

Nobody wanted to say it to Ari, you know, because Ari is Ari.

Right.

But like telling them, like, hey, this is a pretty good fucking show you put together here.

What?

You think so?

You think it's pretty good?

You think it's okay?

It's like, yes, I do think it

watched every single episode as a group, and we were all captivated.

And I would say we're pretty harsh harsh critics.

So, yeah, it's a pretty good show.

Yeah, I'd say.

Congrats to them on a great show.

Yeah, boys.

And what if this is

another avenue we get a chance to do?

What if we get an opportunity to do some more shows?

That'd be sweet.

Would be cool.

Watching talk go through it was awesome.

I asked him a question and his face just

got the indent on his head.

Yeah, because he has one headphone on for this, and then he has an AirPod in this ear.

So he's like a DJ with it off his one ear.

But then in this ear, it's not free conversation.

It's AirPod in here so he can hear something else.

And then, yeah, the indent on his head from his headphones.

And then he's always sitting at his computer.

So I'll ask him a question about something.

We're like, I don't think that's the right color.

He'll look up with a sigh like a cockeye.

What?

It's been a lot of fun.

It's been a lot of fun to kind of go through this.

A lot of work, though.

I mean, a lot of.

He did a great job.

Yeah, it's a lot of work.

A lot of hours of shit and a lot of guests.

And we got to make them all look good.

That's taco.

And Ben, Ben.

What do you mean?

It's talk.

Yeah, but

Tuesday.

I was getting a lot of time.

Taco.

Taco.

All right, let's get to a break.

It's BA Day.

It's not Taco Tuesday.

Excuse me.

Excuse me.

LeBron invented that.

I'm not trying to step on his toes.

There was a run there of LeBron creating everything, and boy, that was bad for his image, I think.

It was.

But I don't think he knew that everybody was trying to attack it.

I think he was just trying to have a good time.

I love the time.

You tell me he didn't invent Taco Tuesday.

Don't tell me that.

Barbershop conversations, potentially, as well.

What do you mean?

Like, as a whole, I think people at barbershops did not talk.

Yeah, that had never happened before.

They did that.

You walk into a barbershop.

Yeah.

And then you throw that key out.

Yeah.

Shut the fuck up.

And then Bron was like,

yo, we should talk.

And here.

And then it kind of launched it.

I love that guy, man.

Very good.

Do you see how young he looks at camp right now?

Look out.

It ain't his last year.

He's wearing Lakers stuff, too.

A lot of question marks.

We'll see halfway through.

What do you mean?

AD's wearing goggles.

Yeah, exactly.

And I'm wondering if the Lakers collapse in a last-year contract with one last ride on his mind.

If LeBron decides, why don't you send me down to Dallas so I can play with my guys AD and Kyrie?

Could you imagine Nico?

Exactly.

That guy, what did they make a winner?

They're in a pretty good spot.

How's Coop?

Have we seen anything on him?

So I'm dapping up Michael Jordan, and guess what?

What?

He had a goatee.

He ain't 18 anymore.

His kid's going places in the league.

The main events got a goatee.

That's right.

It's a cool picture, too, with all the number one picks.

Him, AD, and Kyrie.

I thought that was pretty cool.

He's that guy, 45 or 18.

I can't tell.

What do you think, Michael Jordan's saying?

I would have cooked you fucking four ways.

Yeah, all right, bitch, she looked duke as shit.

Despite what he said, yeah, you're right, fucker.

But I do have a question though, going back in minutes.

Uh, the barbershop talk: how is it in the white guys' barbershop?

You guys have the same type of banter, or is that like a two-American situation?

To be honest, I'm not 100% sure.

I don't spend a lot of time in white guys' barbershops, never really have.

Okay, so not really my thing.

I believe in a good fate, okay.

Salon,

potentially, as young buck, because when mom gets hair dyed,

I'll get my cut just at the same time.

Very good time.

Not a bad time.

I was a little boy.

Salon's a good time as a little boy.

You know, mom getting the hair bleached down.

Get a lollipop.

Yeah, you get to hang out there.

They're having interest comes.

Male white

barbershops.

I'm not Hermes.

Pretty lively.

It's pretty lively.

Yeah, it depends where you go, but it's pretty, you know, it depends on which one.

Some of them have more of a younger vibe.

Some have more of like an old people, old stooge vibe where they don't talk much.

What's playing in there?

Bad bunny?

sometimes depends which one you're at is it is it is it english or spanish what is it what do you bad bunny yeah is he gonna do is he gonna sing in english at the super bowl don't you worry about shambea

went through his catalog

unbelievably sounding music it sounds great

It is just kind of, we got to view it as a techno song.

Yeah.

And the words are just another sound.

that's boom that's okay smooth exactly vibes that's a great idea yeah techno i'm a huge lyrics guy i would like to hear the story being told

okay i would like to hear the i when i listen to music i enjoy the story being told i enjoy the lyrics but for a super bowl halftime i guess i'm just gonna have to view it as all sounds

that's a great instrument whatever that is

that's like in the past and in the show too he's he's gonna put on the show

and maybe maybe that is a difference because i'm not a huge lyric.

It's probably five songs I know every lyric to and but I do have friends that know every like a fucking beat walking beat jukebox.

I have to respect the story before I can respect the song.

Me.

So I talk about it.

I don't even know the story.

What's that?

I usually don't even know the story or what the lyrics are saying.

To be honest.

I just said

everyone digests it differently.

Yeah, true.

So on that note, I actually had this theory about why people hate me so bad because they just hear the sound, they're not listening to the words that I'm saying.

So, it's like some people listen to music just for the sounds, and then some people listen for the lyrics that are happening.

So, I think there's a lot of people that hate the way my music is, it sounds, and I'm like, Well, but you listen, what I'm saying is making sense, I don't hear your words.

It's like, okay,

now I'm learning AJ, this guy hasn't heard a thing I've said,

seven years.

I'm saying, so you can't have unbelievable, like unbelievable lyrics is just a poem, like, but you need to put some great beat to that.

I need a beat to that to where I can follow along with a little bit of energy.

So, like, I like, it's a mixture of both, but I, I need a good beat for me to get it in, like, invested in the song.

So, I need clever lyrics or good lyrics, or I'm not supporting.

Like, that is, like, it obviously has to be a banger as well, but I can't be having fucking

the grass is blue, you know, like just bullshit lyrics.

Depends on the beat.

I can't do it.

I mean, now, granted, do

Do host.

Do.

Do host mish is foreign language.

You have nothing, and there's terrible lyrics to that.

But banned ain't, damn, dance.

I'll get after it.

So this is just techno music is how we have to view Bab Bunny.

Yeah.

He's a DJ coming out there.

That's how we got it.

Our simple, non-Spanish-speaking minds

for American football's biggest game.

We just have to utilize the lyrics and sounds.

That's what we got to view it.

It's Calvin Harris, Tiesto, Bab Bunny.

But to your point, like, people also didn't like it because of like the change that was going on.

And there's a lot of like, this guy's acting like this for three hours.

Like you're like this 24-7 and no one really knows that.

So it's like those people, it's a lot of assumptions and bullshit.

Yeah, but it's hard.

For them, I understand where you're coming from.

I'm with me all the time.

It's fucking a nightmare.

Let's get to a break.

On the other side, we'll break down every storyline that we haven't talked about yet.

And obviously, BA's got to tell us something magical about something that happened in the past.

Here we go, Bruce.

I I feel like we learn about football history with BA here.

You know why?

Because this fucker was in the book.

Yeah.

Everywhere.

Hey, you remember, like, Bear Bryant?

Yeah.

You need to watch the documentary on a guy that created what do I need?

Wishbone.

The wishbone, yeah.

Friend of mine created a wishbone.

You need to fucking watch a documentary about it.

So we'll learn more about ball and we'll cover everything that needs to be chatted about, including there has been a flex to a game.

Thank God.

So we like that.

Good, great move.

Huh?

Thanksgiving?

No.

That's coming.

Don't worry about it.

No, like a really shitty Saints Pass game week six.

Don't worry.

In week six, the 49ers and Bucs will go to 425

instead of the Patriots and Saints.

Good move.

Yeah, I mean.

We like when they do this.

We got to like.

When networks do this, we got to be happy about it.

Good job.

Executives, I think, are sometimes scared to pull the trigger because they want to piss off ownership or fan bases.

or maybe ruffle any feathers at all.

Just kind of, let's go through a season.

The flex is a weapon.

And for the good of ball, we need some of these people in some of these powerful seats to be willing to take it on the shins from a couple fan bases for the overarching good of everybody's soul.

Hell yeah.

And that is something that is very real.

And that needs to be said.

And it needs to be weaponized.

We need to utilize the flex.

We need to start doing that, especially if we know what some of these teams are.

And we need to write down the people who get upset when their team gets flexed out because those people are so delusional beyond saving because they think their team's good enough to play in those primetime games.

And they're bad for ball.

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This is a real good story about Bronx and his dad, Ryan, real United Airlines customers.

We were returning home, and one of the flight attendants asked Bronx if he wanted to see the flight deck and meet Catherine Andrew.

I got to sit in the driver's seat.

I grew up in an aviation family, and seeing Bronx kind of reminded me of myself when I was that age.

That's Andrew, a real United pilot.

These small interactions can shape a kid's future.

It felt like I was the captain.

Allowing my son to see the flight deck will stick with with us forever that's how good leads the way

football

that's 47 your head coach uh football coach bruce airons this is aj hawk the talks at tables here at boston conner and at tai schmidt good luck to all the baseball teams today thank you thank you you came in wearing like a full uniform today pretty much had to this is go time this is go time when you watch 162 regular season games give or take like it it matters it really matters Connor just did the you and me both, brother, when he talks about watching 162 games.

It's been a long season, a lot of ups, and a lot of downs.

Yeah, I mean, big time.

You know, there were a point where I didn't think they were going to make the playoffs, you know, after going to the World Series last year.

You know, it's just really fun.

And it's nice when, like, we don't have, we don't have football the next couple days, you know, to have something to be, like, incredibly invested in on, like, a Tuesday or a Wednesday.

It's, it's awesome.

We have somebody joining us from the baseball world.

Bruce, who's joining us?

Somebody's joining us?

Yeah,

he's in.

It's tomorrow, sir.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Schwerbo is joining us tomorrow.

Let's go.

This is a big deal.

So

I'm very excited about that.

Schwarbo is hilarious.

Imagine, brother.

Yeah.

You're a baseball guy?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Baseball is probably my best sport.

You?

Okay, so you're a pitcher?

No, I was a catcher.

Oh, did you see what Cal Raleigh did this year?

Oh, baby.

Unbelievable.

He deserves the MVP, doesn't he?

Yes, indeed.

Yeah, because he was a catcher and he also hits from both sides of the plate.

He had more home runs.

This guy's part of everything.

I mean, it may be one of the greatest seasons of all time whenever it's all side.

So far for a catcher.

Yeah.

Thank you for that designation, coach.

For a catcher.

Certainly.

Certainly.

We don't have to do this like, yeah, Judge led the MLB, not just the AL, the MLB in basically every statistical category, except for home runs.

But don't worry, he hit 53 of those, too.

So, you know, I know Cal Rowley hit, you know, eight homers more than Judge.

You're right.

Let's give him the MVP.

Let's do it.

It wasn't just that.

He sit on both sides of the plate.

He sit on both sides of the plate.

He's doing it all up.

He's catching every day.

Yeah.

He's squatting.

Big fan, and he's on every single pitch.

He did an every day.

I had both my knees replaced.

Because

Cal Raleigh's leading the league.

Wow.

I get it.

I get it.

He's a very important player.

Very important player.

Seattle doesn't get where they get without a guy like Cal Rowley.

So, and you know what?

If he,

nah, I'm not going to say that.

Never mind.

Never mind.

I'm not going to say say that.

How many MVPs does Judge have?

He has two currently.

Got robbed one.

Altuve won one when that little motherfucker was cheating when he had the exoskeleton on.

Jeff Basson said that was proven to not be true.

He didn't have the exoskeleton on, but he cheated for like three fucking years.

They were doing what other people were doing, just at a larger, larger, much larger extent.

Yeah, exactly.

No teams had any problems with what all the other teams are doing.

Like the Apple Watch is like, hey, let's do this kind of stuff.

And then those guys had to be jackasses and take it 100, you know, 100 steps over the limit, which is fine it's fine they won a world series it worked but no judge should have i mean so this should be winning the fourth mvp fourth or fifth one here this year but there's a chance from what i've been told maybe because of how good kyle raley's season was and what he did for the seattle mariners Maybe he wins it because, you know, you never might not have a destiny-like year like this year for Kyle Raleigh ever again.

And that's okay, because guess what?

In the grand scheme of things, like winning the MVP matters to me.

Judge don't give a fuck.

He wants a ring.

That's what I want.

So if he doesn't win the MVP and and the Yankees go win the World Series, who gives a shit?

I don't know what this tweet is from Ben Verlander, but I'm excited to read it live on air for the first time.

MLB attendance and viewership numbers from 2025 are in and the growth is insane.

Okay, baseball.

Wow.

Way up across every platform.

Fox says baseball up 9%.

Fox Sports One says 10%.

ESBN says up 21%.

TBS 29%.

MLB Network 13%.

I don't know what that one is.

And then MLB TV plus 34%.

What is NHK?

I have no idea.

Is that North Korea?

It better not be.

I think so.

NHK.

Although I have heard that Kim Jong-un throws fucking heat.

Like gas.

Well, then he also has a knuckleball.

Yes.

And he has a curve and a slider.

Yeah.

He has everything you could potentially need.

He does.

I think he has like the.

Well, I don't think.

I know he has the fastest recorded pitch ever, 274 miles an hour.

It is not North Korea.

It is actually Japan.

Okay, so there we go.

Okay, so it's Japan, which is obviously makes sense because the amount of Japanese talent in the MLB, in MLB right now, obviously immense Shohei Otani leading the way with it all.

We're very lucky for that.

And then

third straight year of attendance growth for the first time since 2007, 71.4 million fans.

I don't know how that number comes together.

Social media, most viewed season everywhere, 17.8 billion views.

Once again, I don't know what accounts those are coming from, but I do know baseball is much more prevalent.

Baseball stars showed up.

So shout out for those stats from Ben Verlander.

Shout out to baseball, making some changes to the game and seeing some benefit, but also their stars showing up for in the biggest moments, which is why this wild card should be electric.

Yeah, that's the biggest thing.

I mean, to even have this discussion, like Cal Rowley versus Judge, that's like two guys, and then Shohei, obviously Schwarber.

Like there are a handful of guys around the league where like the MLB simply can't afford for those guys to get hurt or not play or not play well.

And all those guys just continually, and it's been like the last couple years now, but when like the spotlight has really been on and they're kind of trying to make a push a little bit, like it seems like one of those guys is doing something special like every night.

That's why we need Paul Skeens and the Pirates to make some big money investments this offseason.

Without a doubt, he should be pitching this time of year.

Put him on a different team, for sure.

Without a doubt.

Whoa!

Got to.

Hey,

don't let the Reds knock the Dodgers out and get the star power out of the playoffs, but Reds are pretty sneaky out there.

Okay, I'm happy to hear you're pulling for all the platforms to be done during the playoffs because Johe Otani is the needle mover and the Dodgers is Kershaw's final ride here.

Yeah, exactly.

I mean there's a lot of storylines for the Dodgers.

The Reds ruining that

would be terrible for baseball.

They've already said if it goes to three games, Johe will probably start game three.

As a pitcher?

Yeah.

Let's go, Red Lads.

What do you mean you don't love that?

Well,

first and foremost, I hope this thing doesn't go three because if it goes to a winner take all, like, the Reds are scrappy now.

They're a scrappy ball team they play small ball like they don't care about hitting homers i just i i just don't i i don't love show hey

let him focus on hitting what did you see this is you're a hater

i'm not a hater you got a big boot jersey on what yeah that's what babe that's what the big baby big did isn't that what i heard early on early on and then he just started hitting because that fast zone bitch would call a shot and he'd hit a homer every time and that's what we needed him focusing on we don't need you throwing fucking 92 mile an hour lollipops right down the middle for show hey's going a hund though no i know show hey's throwing a lot harder i'm just saying you know he hasn't been otherworldly pitching this year that's all i'm saying i saw a couple tweets from some people throughout the year saying this guy just won five innings no hits yeah on strikeout his his last start was good you know five five innings no but i mean oh so that was literally his last start i saw that from his final start of the season yeah he threw five innings a yeah shutout ball hey jay they've never said i wasn't a what have you done for me lately guy they've never said that about me i don't think that's accurate but shout out to baseball, man.

We're happy for baseball.

Cincinnati Reds knocking out the Dodgers.

Kirk Herbstree would be so happy.

Is there a diehard contingency of Reds fans that are feeling something special about this particular group of boys that are out on the diamond for the Cincinnati Reds, AJ?

Yes, of course.

And they are led by Kirk Herbstree.

Tito Francona, we know the great manager that the Reds have.

This guy is invested.

He is all in.

So, yeah, imagine the Reds going on the road, three road games.

Maybe they don't even get to three.

Maybe they just won the first two and we call it a day a lot of base a lot of baseball chat here today uh tigers guardians won one yeah as a

as of the last time i checked still one one still won one there we go what in it did a picture duel

top of six

top of six is cagey affair that's baseball hey that's wildcard baseball hell yeah i want to see home runs and stuff but that's wildcard baseball

we were never going to get home runs from this early one these next two games uh that that's where your opportunity well and and the dodgers obviously those were going to be your uh a lot of home run opportunities in those games.

The Cubs have any chance here?

You know,

we have some friends that are diehard Cubs too.

Sure.

It's in Chicago.

They're good.

I mean, Padre's got a lot of power.

Padre's bullpen.

Very, very, very strong.

Cubs, maybe not so much.

So

if you're the Cubs, I think you're hoping it's maybe a bit of a slugfest.

Cubs could absolutely win this series.

Red Sox, Yankees, then it comes down to this, one of the greatest rivalries in all sports.

I believe there is a rivalries rushmore coming out here in a few weeks.

That's Bob Costas and Al Michaels chit-chatting about him.

Yankees, Red Sox, obviously mentioned throughout the entirety of it.

Boston team, you've really enjoyed this squad.

Oh, yeah.

Is Tony Toney still playing?

Tony Toney, unfortunately, got hurt.

Terrible injury, but he was still celebrating with the boys in the clubhouse once they clinched the battle.

That's Tony Toney baseball.

I can't wait.

The boys are good, though?

Oh, yeah.

I guess.

I mean, you know, you guys know me.

I'm locked in 162, 365 when it comes to baseball.

Yeah, what it do, bingo.

But yeah, I mean, fuck, fucking Teddy Williams.

The shades of Teddy Williams are going to be in New York City for Boston.

I do not know whose jersey is.

I completely blanked if I grabbed it.

I forgot if I grabbed the Williams or the Damon this morning.

I don't know.

And I should have because I just said Babe Ruth, and I was like, oh, fucking Babe Ruth, Ted Williams, old baseball guys, those two.

But no, I mean, I love the Sox.

It's just one of those teams in Boston where, you know, you like them when they're good, and when they're not, you don't give a fuck.

So guess what we're good and I care and we got a picture tonight and all these judge stats are cool would be a real shame if uh old Aaron Judge laid another egg in the postseason to the Boston Red Sox this might destroy Judge's you know whole entire oh fucking big dog guy that whole thing if judge lays an egg against the Red Sox in the first season, you better grab some fucking devils with their punches

because he is walked.

He's going to need a lot of booze to do something like that.

I'm just throwing that out there.

And I know he's nervous.

I know you're nervous that Joji maybe, maybe he does have some yips in the playoffs, and that might continue to be very difficult.

That's very old.

It is.

No, yeah.

And if they do lose to the Red Sox and he doesn't play well, like it will be very, very loud.

And the guy going tonight for the Red Sox is one of the best pitchers in baseball, but

you know,

it's go time.

It's go time.

Guess what?

If you can't beat the Red Sox, you don't deserve to fucking win a world.

Amen.

I'll tell you what, Connor.

Playoff baseball is sweet, tropical, and spicy, isn't it?

Amen.

You really fit that.

Amen.

Amen.

I thought I saw something pop up on the screen, so I was like, oh, fucking, it's got to be this.

It's got to be.

You know what?

Look at it.

You know what?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I thought I saw the colors, but yeah, sweet, tropical, spicy.

I have the fucking greatest shit you've ever had.

I actually had a bunch of Cuervo last night.

It was wonderful, especially when I can't find the text.

I can't find the text, Brutes.

It can't even get loud up.

Shit.

And I'll tell you what, you snuck it in pretty good, though.

I mean, yeah.

Well, the thing is, I'm not sneaking it because I fucking love it.

More than anything.

More than anything?

More than...

I did say that.

Yeah, you guys heard me.

I was like, holy fuck, dude.

You guys got this double reserves yet?

No, but for shoot, I do love this shit.

You can go to your local liquor store or go to Cuervo.com to purchase your own bottle of mischief.

But remember, it must be 21 years old.

Hand over, again, I just hate that sentence, man.

But remember, must be 21 years old and over, and please drink responsibly.

But genuinely do love the Devil's Reserve.

I am not a tequila guy.

Never have been.

Tried some of this and it was good, so I will dabble in the reserve.

Was it kind of

a little bit

sweet?

Sweet.

Oh, I know with that.

It was devilishly good, boys.

I mean,

that's what it says, baby.

Reserva, reserva, Jose Cuervo, devil reserve.

Man, you did so good.

You did so good.

It is good.

I do like it, though.

I mean, I suck at this shit, but I like this booze.

I really do.

You are not great at this.

That's why it is a good time for all of us for you to be the one that has.

I have fun too.

Especially when Bruce sends me sentences like, but remember, must be 21 years old and over, and please drink responsibly.

I went back to the drawing board on that one, and it stumped me, too.

I don't even know how to know how to.

It's over, right?

21 or over.

21.

Yeah.

Yeah, it must be 21 or over.

That's the

what are we talking about?

We found it.

Great work.

Holy shit, we split the atom.

So

now it's registering with me that that's a thing.

21 plus over.

Wow.

I knew that.

I knew that.

Again, I'm one of those like, hey, if there's a prompter in front of me, I'm going to fucking read it.

You know,

this is what this

what did they shut it down then i mean you know what did they shut down

yeah what if they do that all right uh let's go over to hammer

town college football is batting a thousand talk about rate uh ratings being up for baseball college football is the same exact thing has been all year did you have a sweet tropical spicy take on college football or i hope so what are what is how should we be viewing how the college football season's going right now i always have a sweet tropical spicy taste on college football, Pat.

Oh, it's like Devil's Reserve.

God, I love a Devil's.

Me and Connor polished off a whole bottle last night.

It was awesome.

Don't tell her about that.

What do you guys, where was it?

Was it with your daughter, or where were you guys at?

No, I went downtown.

Oh, nice.

You joined it downtown, boys, for a bottle of uh sweet tropical stuff.

Listen, when you have a doubleheader that good, you can't miss out.

And he's not talking about the game.

He's talking two of those:

the devil's reserve.

Yeah, two bottles of them.

Which.

Yeah.

We drank the other one.

We would not recommend drinking two bottles of those.

No, especially.

Drink responsibly.

Yeah, drink responsibility.

Or maybe cat and that one, too.

Drink responsibly.

Did you guys have that one in there?

Did you find that?

Yeah, it is in two.

No, I think it says must drink responsibly.

I mean, you gotta.

21 or older, too.

It's crazy.

Yeah.

I know.

Just piecing that together.

Yeah, it'll get you.

It will get you.

AJ,

you ever have any of this?

Oh, yeah.

It's beautiful.

Sweet, spicy, goes down smooth.

Tropical.

Tropical.

Yeah.

Tropical.

Tropical, yeah.

All right.

Let's, you know, what's not tropical?

Everywhere in college football, but the University of Miami Hurricane.

That is a resort down there.

They're still rolling.

They got a huge one this weekend.

What are we, what should we be chatting about in the college football world, Tone?

Let's start with this past weekend.

Just in case anybody missed it, we start in

Happy Valley State College, where you were for game day.

Penn State was down 17-3 in this game, and then they stormed this fourth fourth quarter comeback to make it 17-17.

They score first in overtime, obviously, and then Oregon tops that to take it to a second overtime.

And, you know, unfortunately, that's where things turn Penn State, Penn State.

That's just kind of what they do.

Oregon gets a...

an easy touchdown on their first play in the second overtime and then obviously Drew Aller throws the interception in the second overtime on their possession to it to Tanneman who was transferred from Purdue with a huge huge transfer.

Yes, he is.

Don't forget it, D-Buck.

So that was a huge one, obviously, in Happy Valley.

And then the other big one of the day was we went down to Georgia where they were on a 33-game home winning streak between the hedges.

And Alabama came out early and often.

They scored 24 points in the first half, and that was all they needed.

That's Caden Proctor, their left tackle, getting the wide receiver.

screen right there.

Tell you what, it is not DeBover, and especially when DeBoer wears that black hoodie, he is undefeated wearing the black hoodie.

I don't understand why he doesn't wear the black hoodie every single game.

Just something to think about.

Yeah, it should be a big night with that.

What'd you say, Connor?

This is the best play.

I mean, Caden Proctor is the man.

Yeah, Coach Arians, how come they're not giving him the ball every time, B.A., why don't we just give the ball to him every play?

Definitely down on the five-yard line for sure.

He looked like a wide receiver spinning in there.

He looked like...

Ujfeet Vita Veya, right?

We got Vita Vee of the ball coming.

Touchdown, yeah.

Whenever you're drawing a place for these, these guys get excited about this.

Oh, God, yeah.

I said, Vita, just work on a good dance because it's going to be a touchdown.

I got to see a good dance.

And he froze on me.

Oh, no, he got excited.

He'd come running off.

I said, where's the dance, brother?

Oh, not anymore.

He got it all out.

Yeah,

they got to figure it out right now.

A lot of aura.

The big guys, though, that lifts the morale of the entire team.

Oh, yeah.

Legitimately.

Yeah.

And we'd always holler, Vitas, goaline.

He'd come screaming down.

Defensive line, they'd stop practicing, watch him.

Oh, he's going to to get a pass this week.

That's amazing.

Anytime we did fake punts or something like, or fake field goals, fake field goals, always throw it to a fat guy.

Okay.

Even if the ball is definitely going to a tight end in game, there's always going to be some tackle release in downfield or somebody dragging behind, and it's a huge guy.

In practice, we're running this fake.

Never throw it to the tight end.

Never throw it to anybody.

You get it to the fattest guy on the field every single time.

And the reaction from the entire building, anytime one of the big guys gets a ball, is electrifying.

When they were practicing that with Proctor, I assumed the building was electrifying whenever they were going through it.

And I think this Alabama team, AJ, hey,

started out the worst they could have possibly started.

Now they're rolling.

And I like that they're doing this with Proctor AJ.

It's awesome what they're doing with Proctor, but I think they, you know, they just need to do this a few more times, get some more victories, some blowouts to have that like that Alabama, that aura, that mystique about them that the Patriots had for so long in the NFL, that Alabama had for so long under Nick Saban.

I think they can kind of regain that a little bit.

They lost it early in the season, but I think they can get that back.

A lot of question marks for what the future was going to be down there in Alabama.

It feels like the future for us is going down there for them taking on Vandi.

Isn't that crazy?

We're going to Alabama Vandy

this weekend.

That's a...

incredibly large compliment to Diego and everybody at Vandy, but also like they've earned it every step of the way.

This Vanderbilt team is fun, and they're the team that everybody's going to look at during this NIL transfer portal era and say, hey, you can change the entire culture of your university overnight.

Have you watched much of Diego play?

He is special, special.

He was posting personal against Virginia Tech and scored 34 unanswered in the second half.

And now I guess he's trying to get a seventh year.

They're going to give it to him too, I assume.

They should.

They're going to give it to him now, but they should.

He's a hell of a football player now.

A lot of moxie.

Yeah.

Oh, tough.

And they got a big, strong offensive and defensive line.

They did a great, they did it right.

They built their trenches in the right way.

You talk about him being tough.

I saw a video he did

maybe with on three.

I forget who it was.

It was a TikTok or Real.

And build the perfect quarterback.

And it was like,

who's, they are asking him.

It was like a rapid fire.

And they're like, football IQ or something like that.

And I think he said

Peyton or something like that.

And then he said like mindset.

And he said, Tom.

And he said,

athletic ability.

He was like, Lamar, or something like that.

And then he said, toughness.

He said, me.

And then the next one,

and then it was like arm strength or something.

He said, Vic.

Like, he, he put together like the perfect one, but when it was toughness, he like, he was very proud that I am a tough motherfucker.

And I was like, I love this guy more and more the more I hear him talk.

And it takes that type of guy, underappreciated, undervalued, to go to a place and have enough fucking confidence in himself.

And damn near arrogance, you have to have that you can take on and be something that your school has never been before.

What a match bait in heaven down there for Vandy.

I'm so pumped that we're going to a Vandy game actually because I wish it would have been in Nashville because I don't know.

First of all, I love Nashville.

It's a great place.

Love Nashville.

I do love Nashville.

But also these schools that don't get Game Day a lot, you know, and we feel honored that Game Day game means something.

That is very cool that I'm a part of something where that actually means something.

But whenever we go to a place that doesn't happen, it is fucking outrageous.

So now that it's a Vandy game, I still think it's special because it's not normal, but going down to Bama here with Kalen DeBoer, Saban on set, should be electrifying weekend.

Well, and that's what might be kind of sweet, isn't Bama's one of those places you would slot as like, hey, they've won so much, don't really care about game day.

Because of the Vandy, Bama, Sabin debacle last year, like all of a sudden, Vandy's coming in, like, well, we're going to beat Bama.

And Bam was also looking at it as, hey, we kind of have to get Saban's back.

They a little bit dunked on him after they beat us on that.

That takes a little bit.

Yeah, yeah, a lot of it.

There's a lot of dunking on Saban's head from the Vandy people who've not won as many games as he's won national championship.

So that was a wild time, but he certainly, all right,

I stepped in it this time.

That's rat poison.

I did it.

You know, he's awesome on TV, but I like that we're going down there, Tone.

What else should we be thinking about whenever we look ahead to this weekend, Tone Diggs?

Well, yeah, that is a big one.

And the cool part is of the SEC this year is they played the exact same schedule that they played last year, but just the home and way are flipped.

So this game last year was after bama beat georgia with the ryan williams spin move or whatever bama becomes the number one team in the nation then loses to vandy so there's a lot of uh implications this year same exact situation except for bama's at home and they're looking for revenge so that's interesting the other big game uh not as big as it would have been if florida state didn't lose on friday night in virginia uh in that awesome game but miami going to florida state uh another test for miami uh early in this season obviously they've played notre dam already they've played florida already.

So another one going to Florida State.

Miami versus Florida State is the other top 25 versus top 25 game of this weekend.

Okay, I'm going to ask you, D-Bud.

Yep.

Florida State, Miami, guys, a lot of commonalities there, right?

Yeah.

That is like the.

Florida has Florida boys, of course, but Florida State and Miami normally similar recruiting processes.

That is the, like, that's the rivalry for especially South Florida kids, Florida fans.

When UM is UM, you always look forward to that Florida State game.

Florida Gators, when they're good, obviously that's the thing too, but this is the rivalry, regardless of what the records are.

Wish Florida State would have handled business last week and won that game to make this an even bigger deal.

But their offense showed up.

I think it's still going to be a good game.

I can't wait to see it.

But yeah, this is the one, especially when you're talking about, hey, the U is back, the mystique, the swag, the aura, all that shit.

It's about what's your record, just like at Ohio State, what's your record against Michigan at these different schools as a Seminole or a Hurricane?

What is your record against the OP?

Okay, and that's ACC football down there.

Yeah, this is old Big East football, too.

Oh, yes.

I mean, these guys have been going baddie for a long time.

And like I said, the kids all know each other.

They got recruited together.

So

it's a big game for Carson Beck.

He's been playing really, really well on his little redemption tour.

And I can't wait to watch this one.

How do you feel about the transfer in quarterback?

It's worked.

Yeah.

It has worked basically everywhere.

Across the board.

Yeah, Will Howard wins the the national championship.

Riley Leonard was in the national championship finals.

Obviously, Diego transfers in, transforms Vanderbilt entirely, everywhere, kind of basically

hire an assassin.

Dante Moore.

Dante Moore, Dylan Gabriel before that.

Material to Oklahoma, they brought in the OC.

It feels like this is how you, I know you're a part of the Virginia Tech hiring process, but it feels like a quick way to win is get a very good quarterback and maybe the coordinator as well.

There's no doubt about it.

And

I think it's hurting quarterbacks, but it's really helping college football.

I I mean,

they get

over the hump quickly, to go get a quarterback, get the coordinator with him, and all of a sudden you're playing in the championship.

Hurting quarterbacks, though, because they're not developing.

They're not staying in the same offenses.

I don't think they're getting better prepared for the National Football League.

You know, talking to Tom and Payton about the same thing.

They were the same guys in college for the whole time.

And you learn that way.

You get better that way.

Bouncing around, you make a lot of money now.

Yes, yes.

Totally different.

Totally different.

It's not about, I can make as much money now that I can my first two years in the NFL.

So

I'm all for it.

Good for the game, does it sacrifice future talent?

You know, that is what's good for now, is it good for later?

Development for sure, right?

That's kind of, it's like being proven damn near right now, just with quarterbacks, especially like Danny Dimes right here, even.

Peyton and Tomb, yeah, good development is happening to him.

Mac Jones took like four years to develop, and he was in like an NFL system with Sark down there in Alabama.

Baker.

Yeah, Baker Mayfield, I I guess, took him a little bit, even though, you know, whenever he came into the NFL, he had success.

True.

Yeah, I forget about that.

He hit the rookie of the year.

He had success.

He broke the touchdown row.

With their defense.

He broke the touchdown rate?

For a rookie, yeah.

They'd be like a top two to three favorite.

Honestly, what happened?

With their defense, H, with the Cleveland Browns defense, and just Baker Mayfield playing anywhere near where he's playing right now.

With Judy?

Oh, my God.

And then the running back situation.

like

yeah,

you won a playoff game for the Cleveland Browns.

Against the Steelers.

And he has that demeanor too that will go like the Browns fans, like with how Baker is and how he plays and how he puts his body on the line.

Like

it makes perfect sense.

He lived in the stadium.

They unlocked beer when he won the game around.

He shotgun beers at numerous Guardians games, I think.

Send them to London.

That's who we're sending to London to be the trial run for a team over there, Cleveland.

And their home base could be Cleveland still, but get the fuck out.

This sucks too.

The Jets and Browns should combine teams and go to London.

The Jets, I don't know if they're ever going to win like that.

I was watching that game and I was like, Michigan won a national championship like this.

Okay.

Michigan just was able to be more dominant than you.

We don't have to throw the ball.

We're just going to run it.

I don't know if that's going to work in the NFL.

Like, I don't know.

That was interesting last night.

What was that messaging, you think, last night?

What is the message?

What do you mean?

They're trying whatever they can to win a game, I guess.

But they turned the ball three fumbles as well.

I mean, I guess that's the one positive you could take.

Hey, we fumbled the ball three times and we only lost by six points.

So maybe it's a moral victory.

And 15 penalties.

Tall.

10 of them pre-snap.

Tall.

Oh, no.

Sins.

A lot of sins.

Can't do that to yourself.

Just Jets beating Jets, baby.

Is that ever going to stop?

Aaron Glenn, FF.

Yeah, I think Aaron's going to put

some discipline in the program.

I really like Aaron Glenn.

I think his personality, he hasn't had a chance to really build this thing yet.

I think next year they're going to be a totally different over here.

To play Devil's Advocate

with the way he is.

He's a pretty intense guy.

They're saying, you know, the media was on the other side of the locker room.

They could hear him just motherfucking the team for 20 minutes after the game.

10 pre-snap penalties.

10 pre-snap penalties, you know, all that stuff.

He said that was the first thing he said.

Hey, we're going to clean up the penalties.

That is not going to be the way we play football.

inside that locker room let's say this continues they go 0-8 and you got a guy just riding your ass non-stop i mean is there i'm not talking mutiny but when do guys start saying like this guy matt patricia bingo eric mangini bingo uh there's been a couple other situations where this was seemingly the storyline mangini in cleveland you were coaching in pittsburgh at that time okay so we were in indianapolis and uh i think i was a rookie and i was hearing from other people in our locker room what they were hearing from their college teammates what was going on in in cleveland i think they were doing 6 a.m oklomas the rookies i was hearing the same thing that was going throughout the league that wasn't just to you we all heard it i had a teammates yeah everybody was hearing about that me as punter gassing it up so much like boys i would be there i'd be there right on the sideline letting you know like let's get after it boys everybody had the same reaction

that thank god i'm not in cleveland i couldn't even imagine what the the browns players were thinking yeah as it was going through if you win it's good it's a crazy story i was supposed to go in for the interview on Saturday.

He'd be the head coach.

He heard

Eric on Thursday, I think.

Oh, so you

so we had Baker.

Yep.

Potentially had B.A.

He go on a Winster Bull as the head coach, obviously, in that entire thing.

Cleveland's made a lot of decisions.

You know, they certainly made a lot of decisions.

But if Mangini would have won when he was doing Oklahoma drills at 6 a.m.

Everybody would have bought in.

If the Lions would have won when Matt Patricia was doing whatever Matt Patricia was doing, everybody would have bought in.

But whenever you don't have success, the locker room immediately goes, so this sucks worse than everybody else and we're not winning?

I don't fucking think so.

Philip Brian.

There's another instance right there.

Like, this sucks.

We're not doing this.

But if you have success, you got to almost be like, win immediately.

Does that worry you with AG or no?

No.

With his personality, no, not at all.

No, he's a corner, man.

He forgets that shit quick.

But he's not going to.

I don't think they'll mutiny on him at all, even if they're 0-8, because I just want to see get better and better and better, clean the shit up, and it goes back to Peyton's 3-13 year.

But we got better each week in practice.

And the guys never quit.

They say, hey, we're getting better.

And the next year, we're 13 and 3.

And the players got to take ownership, too.

Like, it's not him fumbling the ball.

It's not him jumping off sides or false starting and shit.

Like, you can look at each other and say, hey, hey, it's us.

Now, we hate players-only meetings, but like, you got to police your own, you know, your own locker room.

What he's preaching, I'm sure he's preaching all the right shit.

He played, and the difference between a lot of the coaches' name, like he played in the league for a long time, and then he went kind of the long route to get to this job.

He was a scout, he was a coordinator, he was a coach.

He's been around other good coaches.

He's been around a turnaround.

It was terrible.

What was your record first year?

0-10, we started.

Started 0-10 in Detroit, but you stuck to it.

And a lot of that started from the ownership level.

Ownership level came in and said, hey, this is our guy.

We got his back.

This is how we're going to do things.

It's got to be the same way with the Jets.

Now,

before that, in our lifetime, Detroit hadn't done anything right.

And it's the same kind of story with the Jets.

Now, will they start to do things right from the top down?

We'll see.

Let's talk about the other guy that left the Lions, Ben Johnson.

He might be hitting here.

Yeah.

His team might be kind of finding.

Now, this would be considered early, I think, in a culture shift.

By week five, kind of everybody bought in.

Maybe even by week four, it was already bought in.

That's when, like his speech in the locker room afterwards, very intense, but everybody, yes, sir.

Yeah.

Everybody, everybody yes sir it's like holy shit this guy might have flipped this group into being what he envisions them to be and obviously they can only get better that's like a exact conversation point that we're having right now feels like ben johnson's got chicago buying in to what he's been pitching and everybody says he's a hard ass accountability driven guy it's like kudos to caleb for buying in kudos to the defense for buying like congrats to everybody seemingly buying in and it working out for them and maybe this is a whole new era.

The Ben Johnson era is one that brings success to Chicago, AJ.

Yeah, I mean, I think anytime you bring in a coach that's drastically different from the guy you had before, there's going to be like a little bit of an adjustment period for the team.

And Ben Johnson, like, I think players know, and it's like a corny thing.

But

if you think, like, even if your coach yells all day, every day, and he's crazy and he does this, if you feel like he cares about you and he like truly cares about you as a human, like in each player feels that way, I think you'll do anything for him, especially if you can win some games and you see like, oh, okay, he's not just yelling at me to yell at me.

He's putting me in a good position to make plays.

And when I step out of that, that's when I make mistakes, whatever.

If I do what he's kind of guiding me through, I'll be all right.

And I think now they have some hope early.

And they did not have any hope.

They didn't have hope, what, three weeks ago?

People were pretty upset.

I didn't have hope that

I thought the Caleb experience was going to be a bad one.

I thought it was going to end with him going to a couple different teams and then maybe finding his shit down the road, which I was bummed out about.

I want to let you know because a generational conversation was happening whenever he was coming out of USC.

And I thought, man, this ain't going to work.

This is what they talked about last year with his recollection of the defense and what they were trying to put on, then what Ben Johnson was trying to put on his plate and then how it was looking and the conversations that were taking place.

And it's like, well, does Ben have the power in that room?

Or does Caleb have the power in that room?

We'll see what the future looks like.

Now it's like, wait a minute, Ben Johnson is the right guy to get the most out of Caleb.

And maybe that was this personality type that Caleb needed, or at least at this point in his life, needs to become the best best quarterback he can be.

Because if Caleb can get, that ball right there is insane.

That is an insane throw right there.

That's a second window down in between linebacker, corner, and safety on a line.

It's like, that's a filthy throw.

That is just a disgusting ball.

Do we think Caleb is starting to come into maybe realizing, understanding what offense he's running, what the defense is doing?

And do we think there's still potential massive upside for Caleb with Ben Johnson?

Well, I don't think there's any doubt about that.

I mean, the guy is so talented.

And you know, I go back to that first one.

He completed 10 in a row.

He's taking his check downs.

He's doing everything.

Take the Superman cape off.

Just leave it on the bench.

Just go play quarterback.

All right.

We don't need no Supermans out here.

And I think Ben's going to do that for you.

And he's done it.

Look at Jared Goff's career.

Tall.

Just took off with Ben.

I think Caleb can do that same thing.

I hope so.

And they've got players around him, too, now.

I gave up hope, D.

But

I gave up hope on Caleb.

I know you did.

I mean, I've got to do it.

The G2 shit,

I'm like, man, he's falling in love with everything that isn't football.

Investment funds.

Yeah, the whole thing.

And that matters.

It does matter.

Personality, leadership in the locker room, all that shit definitely matters.

When he has the talent, I said it earlier,

talking about Sean McVay, like in the National Football League, you have to kind of lead with...

intellect.

Like we got to know you're putting us, you're putting me in a better position, especially if you're a guy like Caleb Williams, who was five-star recruit, number one pick, all these things,

has had all the answers up until this point.

You got to be able to swallow your ego and say, okay, this guy's going to put me in a good position.

You got to have that energy.

You got to be able to communicate.

It looks like Ben Johnson kind of has all those things.

And then BA would know this better than I would.

But the staff he has around him, too, on the defensive side of the ball, you got a former head coach of Dennis Allen.

You got Al Harris on that staff, who's a great player in the league for a long time.

A lot of people thought he should have probably been the defensive coordinator in Dallas before he left there to come to Chicago.

And they've kind of been kind of makeshift in that secondary and putting pieces that they didn't expect.

coming into the season to play big roles.

So I think they're doing a good job.

And the intensity factor that we get from Ben Johnson, I didn't know this when he was a coordinator of Detroit.

You know, you never see the coordinator speak and talk as much.

Now, you got to set that tone not only in the locker room, but when you're doing things outside of the locker room, press conferences, meetings, all these different things.

And it looks like the boys are buying in.

Yeah, this was a cool moment, I assume, for Ben, but also if you're a Bears fan, I think when you watch this video, the boys are all bought in.

Like, this is a moment where you can find out if the boys are bought in or not.

The yes, sir responses out of everything is go back to the beginning.

Can we run this?

With sound?

That!

Yeah!

Let me tell you something, man.

That's a character win yes sir.

Yes, sir.

That is a character win.

And it took all 60 minutes.

Yes, sir.

And you know what it took?

It took belief.

Yes, sir.

It took belief that we were going to find a way.

Yes, sir.

Because at the end of the day, gentlemen, that was two teams that were fing desperate.

Yes, sir.

Both teams.

I give them a lot of credit, man.

But you know who wanted just a little bit more?

Chicago Bears.

Chicago.

That's Chicago.

I got a few game balls.

I just see the two interceptions, all right?

But you talk about big-time tackle when we needed it.

Let me get a little Tevin Feyer that.

Coach said it the other week.

The book on this team is that if we get the game close, we was gonna lose.

And what the f did we do today?

Where the culture went, fellas.

We talk about changing the culture.

That's how you do it, fellas.

Let's go into this ball week, man.

Get this going, baby.

Man, we wouldn't have won that game had we not gone four for four on field goal.

Hey man, like I said earlier in the year, I'm inspired by all you guys

and the best teammates, O-line, you know, come through every, it doesn't, it's not just me, snap hold, H.G., all of us.

That's right.

Gas him up.

Gas him up.

Come on up.

All right, man.

And you know, game on the line when we needed it most.

Come on.

When we needed it most.

We needed someone to step up to the plate.

Josh Blackwater.

That's a great culture.

That feels like they're brought in, AJ.

Look out, NFC North.

There's a new powerhouse coming from the Midway Monster.

Yeah, I certainly don't love seeing that one bit.

I don't.

I mean, I just, especially like where the, because in years past, like the Bears losing that way week one to the Vikings, like, especially with the new coach and Caleb Caleb and everything, like, you could see that thing just nosediving.

Like, okay, that's, that's all they needed to kind of tip things over.

And you look at where the Packers were at week one and where they're at now.

Like,

and, and even as like a Packers fan, just watching it, you said a lot of things about, you know, Ben Johnson or whatever, like, their offense does look different.

Like, there'll be like five to six times a game and you'd be like, Jesus Christ, that was a great play.

That was a great one.

Like, that does happen pretty often.

So, yeah, as a Packers fan, don't love seeing that, but here we go.

What does Ben Johnson do as a play caller or play designer that has made him be the bell of the ball for the last three offseasons in the coaching carousel he's had a hell of a group around him you know and uh my man antoine randolell he handles some trick play stuff he actually put one in that he ran back in and when he was a stealer we tossed him the ball he ran the shuffle pass back oh yeah yeah yeah with the line last year the lines just ran and uh so

he listens he listens to his guys he puts input which when you listen and and they see their plays getting called

guys work harder Coach, I got more shit for you.

I got more shit for you.

And he listens, he puts it all together extremely well.

What type of, is there a style in which he calls plays that makes him very good?

Like some people are chess players, I guess, whenever they're calling plays.

Is that Ben Johnson?

He starts with the running game.

He's got a great play action game.

He's got a great knack for when to throw the gadget.

When do you throw the flea flicker?

When do you throw the reverse?

When do you do this gimmick shit?

Especially in Detroit, you know, when they start throwing alignment and

in the middle of a game, throwing a lateral.

on a short end, he pitches back to the other.

That takes a lot of guts.

It takes a lot of creativity, too.

How about the, is it a feel thing?

It's a total feel thing.

Yeah, I think some guys have it, some don't.

Some just are computers.

Computer says, I do this.

All right.

The guys at Andy Reid, the people that have been doing it for a long time, they have a feel for the game.

Ben Johnson's fun to watch.

That Bears team might be problematic, actually.

I have a question for you when it comes to these block kicks.

Yeah.

Do you think we're going to see a ton more fakes now, both punts and field goals, just because they're so aggressive, because there's so much success?

Like, now are they going to start trying, like, because some of these teams are blocking, I mean, the Eagles have like three block punts already.

Yeah, there's been three games, I think, decided about block kicks, literally game-winning blocks.

So Greg Olson.

spotlighted it on Sunday morning, which once again, this is Greg Olson going into detail about something that's so minor, but such a good piece of information for the people at home to have.

So for field goal snaps, normally it's the holder opening his hand like this, okay?

Can't move the hand forward, can't move the hand back, can't move it up, can't move it down, just has to keep it in exact space, and you're allowed to open your hand, but you're not allowed to move forward or it's a you're trying to draw him off.

Like the Stafford thing you're talking about.

Bango, yeah, you can't move at all.

Yeah, if I was to give cadence, which I did, blues,

with the hand, I would do that.

I wasn't allowed to move my helmet forward whenever I was doing it.

Walt Anderson, that.

I did get people to jump off sides, and I was very proud of it.

Only could do it, though, because Vinatari could handle it back there.

But you need to be going on two.

You need to be going on three.

You need to be going on one.

You need to switch that up.

If they have a jump on your operation, like old buddy said that they had it on the long snapper.

Yeah, on the Raiders' long snapper, they always move the ball just like an inch right before he snapped it.

So they're watching for all that.

Like even in warm-ups, other long snappers or maybe us are watching the other long snapper.

Some guys like move their fingers like right before or they like readjust their fingers.

All the guys that are trying to get the jump are looking for something like that.

Whether it's the holder, it's the snapper.

Sometimes the kicker will even do something where they'll put their hand down or they're all.

They all got something.

They all got something that gives a little bit of a tell.

So now they're going to have to go change that.

Aren't you?

It's like a quarterback changing signals or trying to, hey,

this is a fake and we're going on, I'm going to open my hand three times.

Like we're going to see a lot more of that, won't we?

It slows everybody down, not just the edge.

It slows down the middle down, too.

Like

when we would hard count at home, that is for the offensive linemen not to just get fucking steamed.

Because as soon as those guys just go, ears back, this thing's going,

and it's off, they're not even trying to block the kick.

They are just spearing the offensive lineman.

So, like, not only does it slow down the outside, guys, they can't get a jump on the edge, but also in the middle, it slows them down too.

So, I think just switching up the cadence, which sounds so basic, but I think that's, I don't know, how do you slow people down?

Isn't that how you slow people down?

I think

it's

that silent count with the center.

You know, people nod, they spin, they double twister.

I mean, they got five snap counts.

Bate had five or six.

Oh, yeah.

And Saturday was great at it.

You know, hey, we're going to go double twister.

He'd twist the head both sides.

But it makes everybody's life.

The defensive line is going, I didn't see that one yet.

Oh, you get one off sides.

All right.

And Cincinnati does that one time.

You know, maybe that wrestler would have slowed down last night.

Yeah, talking about Ted Karris doing the head, and then they call it on him, actually, in the entirety of it all.

But it's like, you just got to slow him down somehow.

But everybody's got to be on the same page and good.

You know, it's like

there's always a conversation about Aaron Rodgers' hard counts and shit.

It's like, is he doing too much for these young guys?

It's like, no, all these guys need to fucking figure it out.

This is

not hard to count to three, brother.

Yeah, but the sounds and the inflection.

I don't know how offensive linemen don't budge with how big they are.

Yeah.

And obviously, some of those offensive linemen are really good at like readjusting and moving throughout making the call.

But like D linemen being able to stunt and move and shade down and 360 pounders aren't allowed to even budge is insane.

And then for the lack of with the sound, people moving, I think we should applaud offensive linemen for not fucking jumping off more than they do.

It's like they've actually gotten too good at holding their water and then jumping right before that we all think they're cheating.

It's like, how about them not being allowed to fuck, hey, freeze, literally.

Yeah.

You got Bita Vea six inches in front of your face, too.

Don't move.

What's he doing?

Well, he's allowed to actually get a little running start.

He's going to start off the line, actually, and then he's going to come down perfect timing.

Don't even think about thinking about moving your hand.

Because if you just boom right there,

he moved.

He did.

You fucking saw it.

Got him.

First down.

And you're the biggest doofus of all time.

I love that all the little intricacies of the little game, but it does feel like special teams are starting to take over.

Let's stick with the Chicago Bears and wrap it up here.

Ben Johnson and Adidi had a conversation coming out of halftime.

This is how it went went during the game.

Your offense has struggled to take advantage of those takeaways.

Yeah.

Okay, so what did you tell them to get things going?

That it wasn't our brand of football.

We're capable of a lot more, and so we're hitting the reset button here at halftime, and we're going to come back and establish our identity here in the second half.

So you need to change what you're doing.

I don't know.

You think so?

We're going to do just fine.

And they end up being just fine.

That was his message.

Adidi, I think she said that it was a question or a reiteration of what he was saying, even though it might have sounded like, so you need to change what you're doing.

And he said he didn't really, this was his response to it whenever he kicked off his press conference.

And, you know, if you cared to address this, I know there's been some buzz about your halftime exchange.

Can you relay how you interpreted that conversation?

Yeah, you know, in the moment, I honestly, I didn't think too much of it.

I'm kind of in game mode.

But then when I look back at it, you know, I am a little bit

disappointed with what that looks like.

You know, I didn't hear very well, and that's not an excuse.

But when I thought I heard that

it was not a question, but that I needed to make some changes, I didn't take that very well.

So I'll do a better job with those going forward.

Yeah, I didn't like the way it was viewed.

And Adida's been around ball a long time.

I assume she was not the one that was offended by the interaction.

But those are tough moments to have an interview.

You You know, that is a, especially if your team is not playing well and you want them to play well.

And if it's loud and you hear somebody that has not been at your practices or in your team meetings or know anything about your team, not saying football, but just your team in general.

So you need to make sure, it's like,

yeah.

Can we do this after the game?

Like that is almost immediately the thought.

Obviously, guys that have been around a long time are much more seasoned vets in those moments.

But I appreciate Ben Johnson acknowledging it, but I didn't think he had to, AJ.

I don't think he had to.

I mean, coming out of halftime or going into halftime doing an interview as a coach i think is almost impossible it's so like you have so many things on your mind i can imagine now college coaches doing these interviews that the smart ones know in the back of their head hey i'm recruiting anytime i'm on camera i'm recruiting these high school kids these young kids watching me or these kids i want from the transfer portal to come over so that gives them like another reason where they can almost you know fake it easier i guess and makes make themselves i don't know just make it a little bit better anytime on camera we're selling we're selling and for ben johnson he's on camera he's trying to answer questions about his team.

Let's go to a guy who had to do a lot of these.

We feel like there's a couple timings of interviews that what are we doing?

Right before the game, they'll get players.

Now, as like after introductions, as game is like starting like 30 seconds away, they're talking to players now.

That's a part of the new TV deal, I guess.

And then the halftime conversations with coaches.

I feel like we really never really get anything good out of that.

How did you handle those?

And what was your mindset as you're doing those?

Let's get this shit over with quick.

Exactly our point.

I'm not going to say anything.

I'm not going to tell you.

I mean, thank God, Laura Oakman, I was just ripping some official and I was probably red as a hornet and came over.

Are you okay?

You okay?

She was worried about me.

I said, no, I'm good, honey.

What do you want to know?

Yeah, you got to be able to compartmentalize, I guess.

But on that note, you got a lot going on.

A lot of jobs.

I mean, there's a lot of things on the line for every one of these games.

In the middle of the action, just stopping and dropping out and going into the real world.

Because there you're talking to the fans.

You're talking to the fans.

You're talking to everybody.

You're not talking to your team.

And you're in the middle of a game, which is your team's moment.

It's interesting.

I know the NFL wants more access, but I think some of these timing, I think the people should be able to opt in or out of them.

Like, I think Ben Johnson should be like, nah, I don't really want to do this right now.

Yeah, I hate it.

I'm a fan, you know, just being a fan now.

Like, it's nothing.

Like, I don't want to hear from the coach.

I don't hear from a player right before kickoff.

Like, as a fan, it's not, it's not even that engaging or entertaining.

I understand we want the access.

And then to B.A.'s point, like, all that adrenaline.

Like, you are in the middle of out, and that game was a dogfight.

One-point game came down to the last play, last kick.

So, like, too much adrenaline.

I can understand in that interaction how it kind of got lost in Trent.

You're in the middle of a stadium, Loud Stadium, and she was trying to say, okay, so you need to change something up.

He took it a different way.

And then I also understand why he addressed it too, because as a head coach as a player first of all you're you're representing organization we know how that organization specifically

and then like you don't want to ever become a distraction so you just own it you say whatever you say to it and then you move on from so now nobody's asked him about that today or anything else to that so i understand kind of the uh the weight he has to bear as a head coach but i think i think he handled it well i think to your point adidi will be fine she's she's been in the fire she's bald

the field it's different been down there so uh I get it, but I hate the mid-game interviews.

And also, now that we know Ben Johnson a little bit, think about what he just got done doing and saying in that locker room.

Yeah.

I told him we're hitting a reset.

He didn't just say, boys, we're going to hit a reset.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, that is,

that was a loud and very fucking intense reset.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Fucking slamming his head against the locker.

I just said there was a reset button that was imagined in the sky.

Yeah.

And that thing was not tapped.

No, that thing was fucking weird.

Yeah.

100 fucking times.

Then he comes out and say, Didi, you need to make some fucking changes.

Oh, okay.

Everybody has answers, huh?

Okay.

Just that whole series of events, just thinking from Ben Johnson's angle, just like,

is this real?

What you said?

Is this a real?

We'll be just fine.

Thanks.

Thanks.

Happy I did the fucking internet.

Roll it back.

It's like,

game mode, bro.

That's like Luke Keekly as a human versus game mode.

It's just like, dude, there's like a switch that actually gets flipped for some people, most, almost all people.

Now, granted, the drastic change from one human to their competitive element of themselves versus maybe like the most, like Luke Keekly, I think, was actually the most drastic.

I think he's potentially

Troy Palomato.

Brian Dawkins.

Oh.

Okay.

Troy Sir.

Crazy White.

The minister.

Yeah, there's probably a few.

I don't know.

Luke.

Luke Keekly, glasses.

We're talking.

He's there, too.

He's there too.

Did he play like eight-man football and then he went to BC?

Just like...

Nah, he's from Cincinnati.

He played football.

Okay, so full of love.

How are you doing, Barry?

Nice to see you.

Good to see you.

Yes, do you want to go through some

physicist shit?

Like, that is how it is.

And then on the field.

Yeah.

Full chaos.

Who are some others that were?

Reggie White.

Troy Palomalo.

Troy.

Troy.

Oh, my God.

Unbelievable.

That was in between every play.

He was talking to the Lord, Lord, and then all of a sudden, the ball gets snapped.

Yeah.

Where everybody over the top screen.

The Takio Spikes Brian Dawkins story.

Yeah,

Brian Dawkins was like when it turned to game time.

He was born with two lockers, right?

I believe so.

Yeah.

Yeah.

X or whatever his other alter ego.

So yeah, those guys that have like alter egos or like Josh Norman, when he turned into Batman or whatever, you know, their gimmick is.

But yeah, imagine them getting interviewed, though.

Like, that's what I'm saying.

Yeah, in the middle of,

We don't need, like, Ben Johnson might be that human.

Yeah.

Like, when he's coaching, what he is, verse when his eyes, good building.

Yeah.

Remember?

This place's great.

Really nice.

Okay, let's get better.

I fucking hate this place.

Now that we...

He's an intense son of a bitch.

Psycho.

Yeah.

Football sick.

Psycho.

Yeah, psycho, sicko, sick fucker.

He's a lunatic.

A lot of success.

Yeah, it's awesome.

You see his pre-game spelling salt oh yeah and we knew that because it's bring your own spelling salts too so he's not leaving that at home no no

did you read a spelling salts guy no never come on ba coach not just one time

i didn't need it brother i was already up there yeah you're right you're right uh when did you get a you got a you were a consultant it was the year after

It was the year whenever you weren't the head coach, but you were still there on golf cart practice.

And then you were on the sidelines during games and you almost fought somebody who

in New Orleans.

I got banned from the sideline after that.

I don't need any smelling salts, brother.

I was a consultant.

Martian Lattimore and me.

What a good give and take, I assume.

You're a good shit talker.

Oh, yeah.

I assume that was a matter of time.

Take a lot of pride in it, too.

As you should.

Hey.

Amen.

As you should.

Amen.

Tone, did the public win or the sports books win this past weekend?

How do we sit against them?

Sportsbooks.

Once again,

we saw the tweet again one and four uh against the spread for the top five games uh they we did as a public win last night though uh dolphins and broncos were a good result for the public in both of those i think it was 55 for the dolphins and 60 67 68 for the broncos so we got got back a little bit last night all right well congrats to us why don't you come out here tone why don't you leave hammer done done aj great hut

Hood

hear that.

I got a pretty good one.

That's pretty good.

Thank you.

That's from down here.

You got to go deep, brother.

Yeah, yeah, down.

Yeah.

Who is the hot gut?

Who is the hot gut?

Bob Wilson.

Wiley.

Yeah, right.

Bob Boyd.

Wiley.

Wiley.

Wiles, yeah.

You know Wils.

Oh, yeah.

How do you not know Wils?

Him on training camp.

Hardness is great.

So good.

Yeah.

I think.

Eric Bingo.

Do it again.

My fault.

Here we go.

I'm not a quarterback.

Obviously, you can tell.

Stretch is way overrated.

Did you know World War I, World War II, all those guys that fought in that war,

right?

They did push-ups, jumping jacks, sit-ups, climbed up, and ran.

But none of this fancy.

Okay?

Right?

And they won two World Wars.

Two or not.

Two World Wars by doing jumping jacks, push-ups, and sit-ups.

Two World Wars.

You think they were worried when they're running across Normandy about stretching?

Are you kidding me?

Shahat!

Shahad!

Shahad!

Shahad!

Shahad!

Do it again, my fault.

These creatures live within football facilities

all around the country, okay?

These creatures, these football guys, this is literally what these people are.

I know 10 to 15 of them that have no idea about any world events.

They have no fucking clue about what's going on on Earth right now.

They are in a football facility watching football film trying to game the system so their team can win a game and for that we thank them a man that was one of those guys for 47 years ba thank you for another week

we appreciate you debucks great work toxic table phenomenal job in the back great work boys wait for it all off big day today huge day today to uh

the rushmore team talk bill Dirty, Bone, Fox.

Congratulations, boy.

Huge launch.

Hell yeah.

Good work, boys.

Elon Musk retweeted it.

Yeah.

Congratulations, gentlemen.

That's going to do nothing.

Fucking awesome.

So we'll consider that a success no matter what happens the rest of the way.

No big note.

And on that note, it was a great fucking Rushmore on X.

I did it.

We did it.

We did it good.

It's a great show.

It's an unbelievable show.

I'm happy a lot of people are going to see it.

Got another episode coming out next Tuesday.

We'll obviously put out more clips.

And look for the Rushmore on X account on X to be rather active.

Should be a good time and a good follow.

Just like tomorrow, tomorrow, we're going to have a great program.

Schwarba is coming on.

Come on, yeah.

Schwarba's going to be here.

Baseball.

Oh, baseball.

AQ Shipley's going to be here.

Yeah,

football.

AQ.

Oh, right.

So he lives close to Alex Bregman and Stephen Kwan.

They're both playing in the playoffs.

Yeah, today.

So maybe he shows up wearing

a small cost.

He might.

Did he play baseball?

I don't think so.

I don't think so.

Ate a bunch of them.

He could have.

What position did you play?

First base.

Okay.

No.

AQ?

AQ would be a catcher, brother.

He'd have that thing.

He wouldn't even wear one of those things.

Yeah, you're probably right.

He actually might have been able to do all the crafts.

He probably has an absolute cannon for an arm.

He does have a good arm.

He would tell you at least.

He's a couple of those out there.

He's a great athlete.

His dad, massive Pittsburgh Pirates fan.

I assume he did not follow suit because he saw the misery his father went through for a large portion of our lives.

Hey, Ton, you're a Pirates fan.

Are the Pirates going to get some hitters so that Paul Skeens can be fucking throwing during Super Duper Wild Card Day, like what we have today where all the stars are performing no

Don Kelly's coming back though salty ball

you look cool today that's good Paul Skeens took a long walk around Fenway Park when he came to visit I don't know if you guys saw that he does it everywhere he wants to know no no

this one he went underneath the monster He went up the ladder in the monster and he went on the seats in the monster he likes baseball he that's that's a trifecta baby he saw where Gumpy was sitting when Gumpy was posting every night of his life there was a time there where gumpy went to seven straight boston red socks

who actually walked watches 162 and he was in indianapolis in between those games yeah so we're gonna go check out the red socks and then come back to indianapolis and then their next homestand ones that four day i'm gonna go sit on a monster again and come back and they did it again he was really over there agent i experienced the green monster through Gumpy one-week run of going to every game.

Beautiful seats.

You're literally

that's the best seat in sports.

You're on top of the field.

It's incredible.

It's baseball.

Let's remember that.

I'm just saying, if any sport was played, there's on top of the field.

Pretty close.

Well, good luck to all the baseball, boys.

We appreciate baseball.

Aside from that one seat for the Utah mammoth that hangs over the ice.

That is the

only one that might be better.

How about them selling that seat as if it's, ah, this is a shitty seat.

Let's go ahead and sell these things.

Bah, pop, pop.

I got a ticket for 14 bucks from SeatGeek.

Okay.

Where am I sitting at?

Oh, shit.

What the fuck?

I'm like a nightclub VIP booth over top of the game.

You'd be $25,000 for that ticket tonight.

I do think it was first game.

I don't think they had no idea.

And then second game, I think it did become good, if I do recall.

But they redid their whole shit.

Oh, yeah.

Overnight.

Yeah, smart.

That's going to be the mammoth thing.

Wait till we see the mammoth statue.

Oh, yeah.

That's coming up here soon.

You're right.

Hockey.

Yeah.

Follow the hockey.

Hockey.

Yeah, starting real soon.

The Bolts had a run down there.

Oh, I had a great one, man.

My man.

Stomkos?

What's his name?

Stammer?

He's gone.

Stammer's in Nashville.

Oh, you're talking about the coach?

Vasileski.

Oh, Basil.

Goalie.

Oh, yeah.

You know your lightning.

Yeah, man.

That was great.

Of course.

Who's the goalie down there?

Huge mitts.

Vasleski.

No, the goalie.

That's him.

That's Vassey, baby.

No, who's the guy that hit me?

Is that Tampa?

Oh, Luongo.

Oh, yeah.

Pabo Luongo.

Luango.

Huge mitts.

I mean, his hands are gigantic.

He hit me on the shoulder blade and the tit somehow.

I think that was one.

That last Stanley Cup team, they were all big.

Boy, they were like 6'1, 6'2.

Bad was like 6'5 ⁇ .

I mean, that was a help team.

I think they're pretty big boosters, too.

I think they had a good time down there.

Yeah, they had a good crew.

They had a boat party.

They had a boat parade.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, we started.

They started them.

And then you guys followed suit and said, hey, you know what?

We're going to black out on these waters as well.

That's what it's all about.

It's sports, baby.

Be a friend, tell a friend something nice about change your life.

We're in this thing together.

B.A., any final thoughts for the team here?

Great day.

Better day next week.

No risk it.

No biscuit.

Team on me, team on three.

One, two, three.

Goodbye.

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