PMS 2.0 1424 - BA Day with Bruce Arians, MNF Recap, Jaguars Head Coach Liam Coen, TJ Oshie, Brewers Manager Pat Murphy, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble above, the Thunderdome.

On this BA Day, October 7th, 2025, this program begins right now.

Football!

That is a man who's coached for down near 50 years the sport of football and obviously joining us in the Thunderdome every single Tuesday.

A man has become our coach, not only on the show, but also in the think tank there, both before and after these Tuesday shows ladies and gentlemen Super Bowl champion Bruce Harris

good to see you the toxic tables here at Boston Connor Netai Schmidt nine-year NFL vet rocking his standing cup challenge yes sir Florida Panthers tarp because the NHL drops puck tonight officially to kick off another season Darius J.

Butler's here.

Yes, sir.

Hey, thanks for representing hockey, by the way.

We'll certainly be doing that.

Gary Bettman was on GetUp this morning chit-chatting about the NHL launching another season, and it feels like it comes so quick, strictly because of how hard the sport of hockey is, how long the NHL season is and for them to get started back up this quick, I think we're all we all kind of marvel at what they're able to do with their bodies.

I mean I just saw Chuck down there at Miami when he was the guest picker.

He's obviously still got a little bit of a limp going on.

I think that's just for the rest of his life.

That's basically all hockey players.

They'll roll these guys or I'm sorry, they'll skate these guys out onto the ice if they can just stand them up.

You're talking about some of the toughest dudes in the history of any sport.

And they're also the most marvelous

with high high speed.

They're flying through the air.

The dangles of their hands are incredible.

And they also have a grit that they'll just eat a puck for the good of the team.

Their season starts tonight.

The Pittsburgh Penguins are going to be debuting this season.

And that means Sidney Crosby is going to be doing what he has been doing for the last 20 years, which is be an absolute goat on the ice.

So good luck to all these teams.

Shout out to hockey.

TJ Oshi will be joining us in about 40 minutes or so to chit-chat about that.

He's joining ESPN's NHL coverage.

That's a massive get.

That's former Captain America.

We obviously all woke up with him whenever he was in the Olympics doing a shootout.

He took 55 of them against Russia and represented us all in a big-time win.

So he's joining ESPN's NHL coverage this year.

He's going to be great.

And we'll chit-chat with him here in a few minutes.

Congratulations to Hockey Hat.

Huge, yeah.

This is big for us.

Football, though, week five, last night, continued a trend from Sunday that is actually historic in the history of the NFL.

There were six double-digit comeback wins for teams around the NFL in five.

Remarkable.

That ties our record.

I believe 2013 had six in one weekend as well, but that goes all the way back to like the 1970 merger.

So normally, you know, there's been a couple, five double-digit comeback, maybe three or four.

If you have two of these in one weekend, I think you're pretty excited if you're the NFL.

For six of them to happen, including the Monday Night Football kind of nightcap of this entire thing with the Kansas City Chiefs end up losing to the Jacksonville Jaguars, If you're the NFL, this might have been your weakest slate you had all year.

The marquee games, really not marquee games, especially with how teams have come and gone.

And instead, what your league does is just steal the show with massive comebacks that you have no clue what's going to happen in any game.

You think this game's over?

Well, let's talk about week five of the NFL season where there were six double-digit comebacks.

Did you ever think that could happen in the NFL?

Now, in the NBA, obviously, with the evolution of the three-point shot, comebacks are a little bit more efficient.

But in the NFL, you know, the game's too slow, not able to do that.

Don't worry.

We have teams that can overcome anything.

And on Monday night football, Trevor Lawrence and the Jacksonville Jaguars come back from being down 14-0 and get a huge win at home in the Shad Khan double pool paradise with the double stumble to win this entire thing with Trevor Lawrence at the helm.

Now, Trevor Lawrence, and it's taken us a long time to realize this, and I apologize for being late to the party.

He's got some Carson Wentz in him.

There is a Trevor Lawrence experience that you go through.

Because on that final drive, whenever they needed it, now they get the ball at 40 because of kickoff out of bounds.

We're going to talk about the the kickoff because special teams are certainly a part of this thing.

But Trevor Lawrence is electrifying.

And whenever he needed to have a couple big-time throws, we're talking absolute pinpoint accuracy, perfect decisions, perfect balls.

This one down the sideline, how you doing?

Keep it moving.

I need it.

28, 24, fourth quarter, less than a minute left.

Need to sling it.

He's off his back foot, out of reach of that guy, into a pocket, in front of the safety.

And then he takes a big time shot.

Brian Thomas Jr., how you doing?

Keep it moving.

We got an offense.

And then right afterwards, he delivers another ball to the left.

Damn.

Okay, that's 48 seconds left.

Trevor Lawrence making the big time throw that you need to make.

Oh, yeah.

Can he move though?

Yeah, two touch.

How about can he fall and fall and get up and still score a touchdown?

And what the hell is Chris Jones doing in the middle of the field?

Trevor Lawrence and the Jacksonville Jaguars get a huge win.

The celebration there with the fireworks as he throws the ball up is sick.

I hope he has that as a gift in his house for the rest of his life.

An actual mobile photo should be happening in his house whenever you walk in, And that's potentially the one biggest win of his career in my eyes.

Most prime time big win of his career in my eyes.

And also a couple massive plays that I don't think we understood if Trevor Lawrence could do it in a big moment.

And he did.

This thing, after last week where he ran out of bounds whenever he needed to keep the clock moving, that was considered a bad decision.

If he falls twice with no timeouts and he can't get his long-haired big ass up and they lose this game because of it, it would be so loud this morning.

But instead, you see the urgency, the panic, the chaos within him.

He gets up, finds his way home.

And what the hell is Chris Jones doing?

I think Chris Jones actually thought to himself,

this can't be real.

Quarterback's on ground twice right there.

He had to get attacked by somebody.

This is like a movie.

This is like a Foley's.

If something bad was to happen, it's the fourth quarter.

It's a game winner.

There's no way he's on the ground.

Looks terrible for Chris Jones.

He's getting rightfully attacked.

I think Chris Jones was baffled by what he was seeing in front of him.

Once again, can't happen.

You're in an NFL game.

It's fourth quarter.

You're up four, and they're about to score a touchdown.

You got to make a play.

But I think this is huge for for the Jags.

They moved to 4-1, get a huge one over the Chiefs.

People are talking about Chris Jones in this particular play.

But Coach, what we were talking about off air, this didn't really look like the Chiefs at all throughout the entire night, right?

Is that kind of your thoughts on Monday night football?

Yeah, of all things, the 12 or 13 penalties.

13, yep.

Red zone defense, they're usually outstanding, and especially special teams.

I mean, every kickoff got called back, and then the kickoff.

They got out of bounds at the end.

And on that touchdown, Ezra Cleveland needs to get a game ball.

If he's the left guard, he steps up and knocks that defensive end down, which opens the hole.

Great job.

Raboom.

Knocks him down, pancakes him, and that opens the hole for Trevor to get in.

Trevor gets tackled right there.

There's full chaos.

Now, there's 24 seconds.

They'll still be able to get another playoff for sure.

What would that play be?

Who knows?

But if he can't get back up and that ends up being just a sack in this whole world, they would be judging.

They'd be calling him a bust this morning.

I mean, the conversation would be this guy came through and remember getting the playoffs, throws like four picks or whatever it is, immediately upon against the Chargers.

And then, you know, last week he runs out of bounds with the time.

Then people will go back to the beginning of his career with Urban Meyer, how they're going to build a building and how has it worked out?

Well, they've paid him, they appreciate him down there in the building.

Obviously, he's been a star since like eighth grade or whatever.

But I feel like this was a big one for Trevor Lawrence to get on primetime for maybe a national narrative that he's good.

This guy's a good player as opposed to somebody that might not be, which is kind of what was lingering in there on the Trevor Lawrence narrative.

Huge for him in prime time.

You mentioned he was kind of the prince that was promised.

He was one of the next great ones.

He was kind of tabbed as as that going into

college definitely so for him to have this moment and to your point too with the four interception game against the charger that was his biggest win of his career because he came back and got that playoff win and then this would probably be right up there I'll probably say his second because he had some kind of goofball moments had a couple delayed games you know he had to throw over the line of scrimmage but then for in the biggest moments to make the biggest plays that throw to Brian Thomas Jr.

That's one of the best throws I've seen him make.

And then for Brian Thomas Jr.

too, he started off the year rough.

You saw him on everything DB, I think, week one or two, where he kind of was alligator arming a couple throws for him to make this big-time catch in a moment where you know you're probably going to take a hit from this safety and you make this catch and kind of show up for your quarterback and for your team.

And then for Trevor Lawrence to get down there and get it done and get the win.

This was Travis Hunter's kind of debut on primetime.

So it was all kind of lined up for the Jaguars to show up and they took care of business at home on Trevor's birthday.

Like it was a big, big moment.

So I'm happy for him because there is moments moments where you know he has the talent, but there are moments where you just look at him and it almost looks like the moment's too big for him.

So for him to step up and make those plays, man, this was awesome to see.

Birthday game, we mentioned it yesterday.

We thought that would carry some weight.

It certainly did good for him.

And let's talk about Travis Hunter's game.

Yeah.

He is awesome.

I mean, he is a spectacle.

Unreal.

On the offensive side, now, Grant, I think the orange are, I'm sorry, the pink gloves and the pink cleats.

I like that, by the way, breast cancer awareness October.

That used to be like something that was kind of celebrated everywhere.

But for him to be as spectacular as he, and once again, it might be the shoes and it might be the gloves that have hurt, certainly, because he's flying around and everything.

Anytime he gets the ball.

chaos on the other side.

I mean,

he's making people miss bad, bad.

And then there's full chaos from the other team.

Defensive side, what did we see from him?

I saw, obviously, there's a couple plays.

They have him in big positions.

Travis Kelsey gets hit in the face with a ball with Travis Hunter on him.

If Travis Kelsey is lined up on Travis Hunter, that means Jacksonville has a lot of faith in Travis Hunter.

What did you see from their decision making on the defense side of the ball and also Travis on the offensive side?

Is that seemingly is only going to continue to grow?

Yeah, yesterday on the show leading up to the game, I was like, you know what, man, I think we all kind of were getting to the point where number two pick, we want to see him have a bigger impact, play him more, make him major more on one side of the ball and maybe sprinkle him in.

But after seeing him last night, you let Travis Hunter do what the hell Travis Hunter wants to do.

As long as he can stay healthy, that play right there, the deep ball was special, but this play right here, you can just dump the ball to a guy in space and he can make NFL players look ridiculous.

That's when you know you have a special athlete, and then you see him on third and three, line up on a big guy like Travis Kelsey, who you know is probably going to be a target, and then make a play.

Yeah, some people wanted the flag, but this is a bang-bang play in the NFL, especially on third and short.

So, I like to see it for 12 to be all over the field, kind of be that chess piece when you need him in these big-time moments, in the big-time matchups.

I believe he played like around like 70 snaps, something like that, 60-something snaps on both sides of the ball.

So, it's special to watch.

He's truly a unicorn out there to show up on both sides of the ball and compete and have an impact on a high level.

I mean, that's what you want if you're stoner and Liam Cohen in that building.

We'll have the head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars, Liam Cohen, joining us here in about a minute or two to certainly chit-chat about how he's been dealing with the reps and managing and maintaining whatever athlete we have here.

This might be greatest athlete of all time.

B.A., what are your thoughts on it?

Obviously, the experiment of a guy playing on both sides.

of the field has been talked about since the beginning of football.

I'm assuming way back in the day, I'm sure there was a lot of guys that actually did it, but obviously not at the speed and the reps now at wide receiver and corner would be.

Does he have a chance at it from what you've seen here early?

And how would you manage that throughout the week?

Yeah, definitely.

I think the biggest thing is the learning, the number of plays and the number of coverages in the NFL versus college.

You know, you might have three or four coverages in college.

You learn them in training camp.

It's over.

But now you've got a different game plan every week.

To learn both game plans, offense and defense, is the hardest part.

Now, let's keep it simple for him.

He's going to play defense.

Let's play a little dude coverage.

You got this dude.

Let's play.

That's it.

All right.

So let's keep it simple.

And offensively, just keep feeding this guy the rock, man.

He's spectacular.

Connor, you've been saying for a few weeks, like, hey, if you guys haven't been watching the Jacksonville Jaguars, Travis Hunter is electric.

He's on the offensive side.

Now, on the defense, it's not as easy to see because every play is enscripted for us to see what the hell each player on the defensive side is doing as it is on the offensive side.

When Travis Hunter makes a catch on the offensive side, it's easier to see.

When he's on defense, he's not a part of the play.

It's like, well, did he have good coverage?

Did he have good leverage?

I have no idea unless we're watching the all-22 in real time.

But you talked about his electricity factor, and I think the world got to see it last night.

Love the gloves.

Sure.

Love the cleats.

Love that every time he has the ball, he's trying to do something.

And it's like his mentality, his energy.

Everything is like infectious, I would assume.

Yeah, and that radiates through the screen.

It truly truly does.

Like even when he's making plays, just he's always smiling.

I mean, he covered Xavier Worthy perfectly, and then he basically limped off.

Not because he was hurt or anything.

It was probably, you know, a cramp.

It was hot.

It's awesome.

He's playing both ways.

I think it's stupid he does.

I'll be completely honest.

Just because, like, look what he does when he gets the football, right?

He had three catches.

If he plays, you know, the entire game on offense, does he have eight catches?

And on defense, he is incredible, right?

But, you know, he locked down Travis Kelsey.

But if he were to be covering Travis Kelsey the whole night, is Travis Kelsey scoring a touchdown?

Like, that's what I just don't understand.

Well, let's find out how it's going to be managed, ladies and gentlemen, joining us now.

This guy who's in charge down there in

Duval

head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars ladies and gentlemen I'm sure he's got a fresh pair of shoes on his feet he's probably swagged out immensely fresh off a massive dub on Monday night football against the Chiefs who could potentially be in the middle of a dynasty this team may be beginning one ladies and gentlemen the head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars Liam Killen

All right dude thanks guys appreciate you guys man sorry I've got losing my voice a little bit here, man.

I would be emotional after last night.

Obviously, we enjoy listening to your speeches afterwards when you're talking to the boys.

And we assume throughout the week, the amount of messaging that you're sending to this squad is also a lot.

So we appreciate you utilizing some of your vocal cords on this glorious preparation Tuesday and chatting with us after the biggest win of your head coaching career.

Congratulations.

Congrats.

Okay, so obviously, Kansas City Chiefs coming to town.

This is Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes.

What was your messaging to the boys?

And is it the same?

Like, hey, we're building something special here and there's an opportunity.

Is that your messaging?

And how did you get to this point, you think, with this locker room?

Yeah, the messaging has been pretty clear each week is just for us to go out and try to get better each and every week, regardless of the logo that we're playing.

You know, we've had great opportunities to play against some really quality opponents,

but it's really about us correcting every week and getting better each and every week.

But the style of play in which these guys are playing with

physical, relentless, tough,

no flinch, no blink mentality.

I've been really proud of the way these guys have competed.

A lot of things to clean up, but through five weeks, been proud of these guys.

Okay, so let's talk about your team playing fast, you know, fundamentally sound, attacking, situational masters, and tough.

You know, let's talk about them playing fast as a whole.

Is that the one that's on the shirt that's right over your right shoulder right there?

Is that the entire team motto for the year?

Yeah, that's our style of play motto, and that's something that we've adopted through, you know, working over the years with Sean McVay and other guys where you think of, okay, what is it we want to look like?

When people turn on our tape, what is our resume?

Ultimately, that's what FAST speaks to.

And look, it hasn't been perfect, but the mentality that these guys have played with each and every week.

Last week, Hunter Long, fundamentally sound, getting down in a critical

third down to beat San Fran.

You know, we've been attacking the football with the turnovers.

You know, fundamentally sound all throughout.

Situational masters, tough.

Like, these are things that we try to show them each and every week, great examples of.

And man, these guys are continuing to do it each and every week.

Let's talk about situational masters.

Trevor Lawrence knew like hell he had no timeouts whenever he fell the first time.

Then when he fell the second time, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit.

Then he obviously makes an incredible play.

Last night was a little bit of the Trevor Lawrence experience while we were watching it.

Prime time game, Kansas City Chiefs, this shot right here is epic as the fireworks literally go off at the same time he throws the football.

Tell me about Trevor Lawrence as your quarterback and what last night could potentially mean for what the world thinks or sees of Trevor Lawrence.

Yeah, I was really proud of Trevor and the way that he competed.

That was the thing that I think continued to show up through four quarters was

even after maybe a mistake or not a great series, he just looked ticked off throughout the game, honestly, which I was appreciative of in ways.

He used his legs.

He took some hits.

And then the last drive, I mean, everybody's going to talk about that last play, but the throw to BTJ down the right sideline, tight window.

Great job staring down the barrel there and making a huge throw and catch.

The next play to Deami Brown on the left sideline was a dot.

And then we get to that situation.

And look, he ends up getting tripped.

That does happen.

You know, it just so happened that it happened on this play.

And look at the resiliency, the effort.

That's an unbelievable individual effort to go get in the end zone

and get us the W.

I mean, that's a two-minute drive to go beat a team that has been really good in one-score games over the course of history.

And for us to pull that out and for him to make that play, really proud of him.

Yeah, I'm proud of your entire team, Don Early.

Yeah, hell yeah.

And you know, you guys are now four and one,

tied for the lead in the AFC with the Buffalo Bills.

And

I think that's it.

Who's that other team?

Who's that other team, William?

It's another one.

Hey, they are playing at a high level right now.

There is no question.

We are

trying to get better each and every week.

It is truly about us, but you can appreciate.

And when you watch the tape around the league, what Indy's been doing, obviously, what Buffalo's been doing.

There's so much good football being played right now.

And you look around the league, the points that are being scored, the quarterback play.

I mean, it's all really cool to watch.

And so for us to be a part of that and to be in that conversation right now is pretty cool.

We've got an opportunity this week against Seattle at home again.

We're going to need our fan base in City to come support again for us.

Yeah,

I would like to say you're obviously in there doing it.

And I'm just having jacking diets at the games for the Colts, but nobody would have pictured us.

Look at us.

Nobody would have pictured the Jags and the Colts and the AFC South having the two whenever you go into the year.

That's why the NFL is the greatest.

Football is the best sport on earth.

And if you can get the boys motivated and rolling, anybody can beat anybody, especially with how you guys look on the defense.

99-yard pitch, six.

Go ahead, D-Buck.

Kevin Lloyd, backing it up.

Big, big addition, defensive coordinator Anthony Campanelli.

What has he brought?

Because last year, I think you guys only, obviously you weren't there, but the Jags only had like nine takeaways, already up to 14, leading the National Football League and taking the football away.

What has that DC brought to the unit?

Campi is

his fire, his passion, his authenticity.

I've known Anthony Campanelli for a long time.

I watched him coach at Boston College when I was at Maine doing professional development.

And that was the time where I said, this is the guy I want to hire to be my DC someday.

And

he's got these guys playing at a really high level in terms of the way they attack the football, the way that they coach it, the way that they teach it, the way that these guys are repping it every single day in practice.

It's his personality showing out for this defense to be able to continue to be them and mold who they want to be as a unit.

And it's pretty cool to see.

Not fumbling at the half-yard line there.

Great play.

For what we thank God for the good of ball that did not happen for the third time in two weeks.

And if you just run that play back from the beginning, Foxy, and you just look at the effort, first of all, the heads-up play.

That's a play that we saw picked off from a Cuba earlier in the year.

Same route concept off the tip.

But you see it's one fast guy on the field Thornton and you see Allen Heinz Allen kind of peek by boom just bump him off right there And that's the difference of him getting in the end zone or not So like all these guys been on the same page post snap

Pre-snap like that's phenomenal, man.

I love seeing shit like that buy-in brother.

You got a good locker room down there.

You know, there's been a lot of Jaguars teams.

Mm-hmm.

I think that's all they would say.

Yeah, exactly.

That's all they would say.

You know, like, hey, they've got a lot of teams down there.

They've had people playing down there.

Certainly, beat the Colts every single year down there, but seemingly nothing else.

For you to have the boys this quickly into your stint, you and Stoner, having everybody bought in, I feel like there is a true like eager for success down there, like a yearning for success.

And that owner, brother, from what we know from outside looking in, he's all in.

Ty has a question.

Yeah, coach, I'm just curious.

Is this what you envisioned in January?

I mean, obviously,

it happened in September after last night.

It's happening in October.

Do you get the sense that this is going to last forever?

Or where are we sitting right now?

Easy leave.

Yeah, I mean, look, Shaw's vision for what this, you know, ultimately want to look like from a leadership standpoint and having Tony Bisselli on board with James

has been really fun.

And working with the entire building, the staff, coaches, players has been really fun from the beginning.

It hasn't all been rainbows and butterflies, but we've gotten through to just being having a great great communication in the building and everybody on the same page.

And we've had some real honest conversations with our players and in team meetings about what we want this to look like.

And I'm not really surprised, honestly.

I think that the guys, they were hungry when we got here.

Like this was a hungry team.

They knew that they have to go out and prove it and take something and compete to show and get respect.

and have pride about what you're doing.

Really proud about where we're at right now.

Let's talk about some of your guys.

There was a moment where this thing could have gone one

way that I think Jags fans would have expected potentially of yesteryear, but maybe not this year.

Go ahead, Connor.

Yeah, coach, last night you guys ended up tying the record for the NFL and most double-digit comebacks.

It was incredible.

But what was it like when you were down 14-0?

Was it kind of a quiet sideline?

Was there someone, you know, kind of walking up and down, getting everyone going?

How would you describe that atmosphere during that point in the game?

Yeah, it was a shocker a little bit because we hadn't, you know, really been behind that much early on in games.

And so I did think that we had some really juiced up energy, I think, going into the game.

I wouldn't say it was, you know, not ready for the moment or bright eyes.

I think we were a little bit overly juiced and came out and just really needed to compose ourselves.

I think Anthony Campanelli grabbed the defense after the second score and was very vocal, had the whole group over there trying to communicate what the standard and expectations are.

And those guys followed suit.

And then I just saw Trevor, like his demeanor throughout the entire game guys was so steady in a fiery way he had a look in his eyes all day that we were going to be confident about coming back from a 14 point deficit uh and we just chipped away at it and made some plays in critical moments i like to hear that about trevor bro because he's always been like super chill guy because i think and you would know him better than me and i'm not a sociologist which i think would be the people that would be doing this study oh

okay so debuck you'd be the one that made the answers for us here I think because he's been so popular for so long, he's been forced almost to not act arrogant, don't act too confident, also don't be too, like, since he's like eighth grade, they've been saying this guy's the guy.

And I think this has been during the era of cell phones.

So like, I think Trevor Lawrence, throughout his entire high school career, college career, and he's been basically forced to just have no emotion almost, you know?

So I think people take that as a way maybe he's not as intense or whatever, but I think he literally wasn't allowed.

So just like you're saying, us from a group of people that have been watching him for the last seven, eight years, because he plays against, or however many years he's been, five years or whatever, because we, I like that he's getting, I like the ball throw.

Yeah.

Like, I like that shit.

And it sounds like you do as well.

It feels like you're getting maybe the most out of Trevor Lawrence or freeing Trevor Lawrence.

Like, how do you feel like whenever...

Because this guy has been a star since eighth grade.

Like, how is it dealing with him?

And obviously you being a quarterback must help at least a little bit.

Yeah.

There's truth to the fact that he's been in the, you know, the spotlight for a long time.

I don't know if there's many people better with the media than Trevor in terms of the way he speaks to people with such humility and honesty.

That's how he speaks to our team and to our players.

And that's what makes him a leader.

That's why he showed out in a moment like that last night is because he's able to take responsibility for his actions.

uh in front of people, in front of the group, in front of coaches.

There's an honesty there that he wants to continue to get better.

And we haven't even really gotten there fully.

And last night was a huge step in the right direction.

I think there's a lot of meat on the bone.

And last night was a great moment for Trevor to continue to go forward.

He's just so,

he's everything you want.

Tall.

Hair was perfect.

Almost more perfect last night than ever.

I don't know if it was birthday.

And jawline also shining on the birthday.

And then obviously the can't.

And then that last play, unbelievable to score a touchdown.

Coach BA has a question for you.

Coach Cohen.

Hey, congrats, man.

I know how hard it is to get to 4-1 your first year, but I just want to know that Ezra Cleveland get a game ball because I'm definitely giving him one when he fell down twice and he just pancakes that left in and opens that hole up for him.

And I'm definitely giving Ezra a game ball in that one.

Sounds like you're being forced to as well.

Hey, Coach,

thank you.

So much respect, BA.

You know,

those guys up front have been playing that way.

And Ezra is definitely taking that physical mindset.

And he's done that a lot this season.

You know, look, he's playing hurt.

He's playing, they're just playing through toughness and grit.

And I really appreciate Ezra.

He's definitely going to be up for a game ball.

That's what it was.

Hey, Ezra, congrats, dude.

That boy, Ezra.

Congrats, dude.

Sounds like you got one.

BA's handout game balls from retirement.

I love that.

I love that.

Start tossing them around.

Maybe it should be BA's game balls.

Definitely.

Segment.

Seg BA's balls.

B.A.'s balls.

Everybody wants to be a part of B.A.'s balls, Coach.

Is that the truth?

No, take it easy.

Hey, real question here.

We were talking about it as you were coming on.

I assume you heard a little bit as we were setting up the camera.

The Travis Hunter usage.

And I think last night was the most a lot of us had seen him play since when he was at Colorado.

He's spectacular.

I mean, the gloves and the cleats were certainly a part of it.

But anytime he gets the ball, it's like, holy shit, anything could happen here.

And then on defensive side, you guys have enough faith in him to be lining up against GOAT, first ballot Hall of Famer, and Travis Kelsey.

There's conversations about, will he be able to play full-time on both sides of the ball?

How are you going to manage that?

It's a lot of, obviously, intel that he has to learn, let alone managing the body and everything like that.

And on the offensive side, we see that and we think, there's not a lot of people that could do that.

Why are we wasting any time on defensive side?

But then you guys are probably saying, we put him on Travis on third down.

There's not a lot of people that could do what he could do on the defensive side.

How are you managing it?

where are we and there's a story going around uh that you were a part of actually Eli said something about maybe he didn't practice offense in college if you would like to clarify all that type of shit into one convo we'd like to let you know he's a special talent from our sites how are you guys handling it all and what's the plan

yeah i mean it's been a work in progress that

Each week you're continuing to look at how to improve the schedule, the operation.

I think we're in a good place right now with how he spends his time both on the offense and defensive side during the week.

And look, he made the most of some unbelievable opportunities last night.

And really, it was starting over the last few weeks.

We just didn't connect on a few.

He's been open a few times or just whatever happened, it didn't come to fruition.

And last night to see him go out and make the plays with the ball in his hands,

run after catch, the energy that he brings, really, really cool to see.

And then the defense, you know, as much as we can get him out there and get him in positions to be successful, we want to keep doing.

So what's the tap on this?

I can't tell you.

I think it's only getting better and better as we go.

I'm really excited to see what it's going to look like week in and week out.

It's somebody we got to continue to get the ball to and getting the ball in his hands.

Him and BT had great nights last night, made huge plays for us.

And then

he practiced on defense at

offense at Colorado.

It was just primarily defense.

And then that's when he would go out, you know, look at the signals from the sideline, which is that's what they did.

They were a no-huddle operation.

So I think it was, he practiced on offense, just not very much.

It was way more on defense.

He got in the walkthroughs on offense.

And look, they used him and made him a Heisman Trophy winner.

And he did that on his own.

He did that with that help of Colorado.

We're hoping to continue to do that so he can be the best version of himself.

So he was primary defense with offensive packages, basically, whenever he was at Colorado is kind of what you're saying.

Yeah, he was just a little bit more primary on defense with, I think, the meeting time, the time allocated, and they caught him up more in the walkthroughs and maybe a practice or a period or two during the day in practice on offense.

So he's gotten to work at both.

It was just a little bit more defense than offense there.

And where we've been kind of flipping that and doing more offense than defense from a just development standpoint of playing the receiver position and what goes into not just a formation and a motion, but reading coverage on a play or going and executing and being at the right spot at the right time.

He's getting better and better and we're excited about what's in store.

So Coach Prime obviously has a lot of NFL guys that have played in on his coaching staff.

And I think that's what all NFL guys asked immediately upon the Travis Hunter is going to play on both sides of the ball.

Well, how's he going to spend his meeting time?

That is literally what everybody that's ever played in the NFL or has been in the building.

Like, how is he going to manage that?

So everybody's talking about like on the field, but what about like install and everything else that takes place?

So I appreciate you guys saying like we, he's a weapon on offense.

We got to get him in here.

But it sounds like on the defensive side, whenever there's, he has a package for defense, maybe it might change game to game.

Is that something we're just assuming there now at this point?

Yeah, he's basically camping knows like, all right, Travis is in.

These are more of my priority calls.

Try to stick with more of these.

It's not just necessarily a package.

It's just, all right, trying to be in a good area of doing what he does best or or what he knows best as well.

Um, whether that's playing cloud or 3D Berkman and just trying to simplify some of that.

But he has to know a ton of the calls, he has to know all the red zone calls, the situational third-down calls.

Um, he's got to know a lot of each game plan, guys.

I mean, this the amount of time that is spent throughout the day when he's not in

a meeting on offense, he's definitely with the defense, or vice versa.

There's not a minute of his time throughout the day that isn't being utilized during practice during special teams.

he's doing indie on offense or defense it's it's full go he's got a lot of work to do each and every week and so do his coaches and um it's getting better and better what a special talent man it's incredible honestly yeah just you you talk about that tough down there at the bottom and it says mentally and physically obviously to get through all that you got to be in incredible shape you got to be a phenomenal athlete but mentally that can all be draining like just like this this this is the nfl too it's not like we're just running you know we got six plates going yeah like that that ain't how it's gonna go it is that's a lot.

Special talent, obviously, worthy of the move that you guys made to go get him.

If you'd like to clarify some things, we would certainly allow you to utilize this platform to do as such.

We put this tail of the tape up.

Now, we have made one edit.

We have made one edit.

We put your size at 6'2.

Remember, we had you at 6'1 there.

Yeah.

And the internet did change.

We had to find a little bit more.

We will say AI and Wikipedia got you wrong.

They did.

Your college football stats obviously got you right right at 6'2 ⁇ , 223.

Your 3-1-0 as a head coach, that has changed since then.

Yeah, it has.

Oh, yeah.

You're now 4-1-0.

Yep, roll up the sleeves, roll up the sleeves.

Looks like he's in better shape, too.

That looks like 205 now.

Yeah, he might be down to a little bit slimmer.

Yeah, maybe not getting to eat as much because we've got a couple more things coming across our desk.

This situation here, we're past it.

We're past it, hopefully, coaches.

We've bygones be bygones.

And how did it feel to get introduced as the head coach to the world about, hey, this guy's willing to fight people?

How was this all seen?

How has it been as head coach with all this shit?

How has it been?

Oh, look, I've got a ton of respect for Robert Solomon and Kyle Shanahan, San Francisco 49ers.

Sometimes the emotions get the best of you, and

ultimately, you want to be able to have a lot of respect.

I have a lot of respect for those guys.

We competed against them twice a year, and there's probably some pent up emotions over the years of

LA San Fran games.

And so,

you know, lost my emotions there.

And look, I got a lot of respect for those guys.

But

look, being a head coach in this league, it's day in and day out, right?

There's so much, as you said, come across your desk.

You deal with being in the public spotlight.

And it's fun, though.

We've had a blast.

I've had a blast doing this with this team, with this staff.

You know, hopefully we're getting better each and every week.

And these guys are playing their tails off, but it's been fun to lead this team.

You've been crushing it, man.

It's been fun to watch you as well.

And And

we like a little bit.

We love it.

Yeah, we like that, man.

Hey, we're playing.

This is competitive.

It's football, bitch.

Yeah, that's what we're doing here.

That's what we're doing.

I like when there's a little bit of sauce.

And your boys clearly enjoy it as well.

Those locker room moments are beautiful.

And that's what everybody misses.

I'm happy to see you getting a chance to enjoy them down there in Jacksonville.

You guys just might be the second best team in the AFC South.

Fuck out, man.

You guys did.

Don't run that against me, please.

I don't need to be adding any billboard material.

I'm a big Jacksonville Jaguars fan.

You guys are an incredible team.

Okay, all right, ladies and gentlemen, head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars, fresh off a big win over the Kansas City Chiefs, four and one down there.

And

Duvall.

Liam Cohen, you're the man.

He's the man.

The man.

It is.

It is.

He's been very cool to us.

Legit.

We have a lot of mutual.

Liam and us have a lot of mutual.

We didn't know that until he got this peak and we started, you know, our entire Duval thing.

Then we started getting texts from people like, yo, yo, yo, yo.

He's a great guy.

He's a good guy.

And he's a

same age now.

We're at that age now where a lot of guys our age are getting their head jobs.

And now we got to start keeping a record of like coaches who start off looking like doofuses

in the press conference and then go on and beat like Dan Campbell, Nick Siriani.

We got Liam.

Well, Gannon, you know,

Gannon wasn't the opening press conference.

Gannon got got by some social media degree, have an expert who remember that?

For the Cardinals.

Yeah, for the Cardinals.

They put it on the bottom.

Who Who dropped the work today?

And he's going, yeah,

who's going to fire

in your belly?

That one.

And then, pew, pew, pew, pew, explosives.

Shots.

And they were just, they were just letting us into the world.

We didn't really know who this guy was.

And they're like, hey, here's the new Arizona Cardinals head coach.

Who's putting this out?

Somebody wants this guy dead.

Oh, it's the Arizona Cardinals social media team.

Oh, geez.

All right.

This guy's getting buried.

Now, there's a whole nother situation happening with

old Coach Gannon.

He struck a player.

Oh, no.

He can't do that.

Here's a sideline interaction that happened between

Coach Gannon.

His hat actually gets off

hurt a little bit and he hits him in the chest.

And on the way out, he does a fist bump that might, or ah, that might have hit his arm too.

I don't know.

From this angle, you can't really see it.

From the back angle, you don't really know exactly what happened, but there certainly appears to be two different shots.

And I would say this:

there's certainly a way of speaking about it that I've heard people doing.

I heard somebody say assault.

I heard

this guy struck a man.

I heard somebody saying, I believe there were some other media wizards saying, I guess that is technically what took place there.

I do wonder how this all works out, though, because they're saying there's going to look into it.

What does the NFL do?

What the Cardinals do?

We got Coach BA here.

Obviously, Coach BA coached football for 47 years, was coaching with Bear Bryant.

That's coach.

And we've obviously heard the stories of like Bear Bryant.

I think we all understand what football coaches have certainly done in the past to football with a lot of very good football teams and how you know it's a physical sport a lot of ex-football people in there there's a chance but nowadays it feels like with us being able to see everything and what uh good coaches have been able to accomplish without doing it and everything like how do you feel about this ba because this is gannon i think if you were to ask old football guys

he could have grabbed him and actually shook him and let him know that there are 10 families that are about to lose their jobs and have to pick up and move because of what you just did.

We work so hard to just try to score one touchdown, let alone that touchdown, and you go ahead and just throw everybody's future basically in the trash can is what Gannon is probably relaying in that exact moment.

But in modern world,

that shit is very

unique, I would say, not happening on a very regular basis.

So old school football people probably think of one thing.

Gannon living in a modern world, how do you think it all shapes up and what is normally due process here?

Like the NFL calls, the Cardinals will call, kind of, how does it work if you had to give it a call?

Yeah, I'm old school.

I didn't think that much of it.

And, you know, it's like he didn't grab his face mask, tear his helmet off like they did back in the 80s.

Yeah.

Throw it up in the state.

Of course, yeah, I think.

I've seen what he's doing.

But no, I think, yeah, the league will contact the Cardinals.

The Cardinals will handle it internally.

And

I hope everything comes out okay for him because I think he's a hell of a coach.

And sometimes the emotion, and I'm sure they just showed the Colts play in their their locker room all right to the whole team make sure we don't let this happen and we let it happen yep you know and it's like yeah you're gonna lose your sometimes debut your thoughts on how it all on the opposite side and maybe this is the coach player thing and i saw it might have been on get up but it had like cardinal sin that was a good headline because it is kind of that line you know you you yell you do everything you do but as a grown man there is kind of like hey just don't put your hands on we saw the conversation with urban meyer and just when that happens we know the emotions are high.

You know, it's a lot of testosterone during the game on the sideline.

Now, in that moment, if the player snaps, because he's going through a lot too,

he goes back and he whoops Ganny's ass, now he's a bad guy.

You know what I mean?

We saw it with Lamar Jackson, that situation from the crowd.

It's the same thing.

You know, just keep your hands on yourself.

We taught that as a child.

I understand emotions get high.

I understand, you know, what it used to be and shit like that.

But that is a line that you cross.

And once you, I teach my kids, hey, you put your hand on somebody, you can't control how they retaliate.

So that's kind of always that line.

I don't think he meant it in a terrible way, but

you just can't cross that line in my opinion.

I think the first one he could get away with saying, I was telling him, come on.

Here we go.

I was giving him like a come on shot, that first one.

It's the second one that I think he hits him in the arm with a head butt there.

That second one, I think, is what's going to be a tough.

But on that note, vastly different worlds than what it used to be.

Like vastly different worlds.

And Gannon knows that.

He's been coaching in this era this entire time.

And over there,

are the Cardinals ever...

Are the...

No.

No.

That game, yeah.

Well, guess what?

BA ain't walking through the door in two weeks.

That game they lost to the Titans on Sunday, I feel like they lose two of those games a year.

Two of those games a year.

Gannon says it feels like we lose two of them a week.

Yeah, exactly.

He lost his mind.

It happens all the time.

But that's also the other side of it.

It's like if the Cardinals are, you know, four and one after that, this kind of just gets brushed under the rug.

It's like, whatever, you know, heated, they, they, and all the emotions, like, it happens, but because they're not playing necessarily well and they're starting to lose a little bit, it's like, now wait a minute.

You know, not only are they playing like shit, but their coach is acting like this on the sidelines.

Maybe we maybe we reassess this situation.

Like, now, East Coast bias or whatever they call it in the media is certainly something.

If this dude did this and had the results that he's having for a team that was New York Giants or New York Jets or any of these any team over on basically that gets covered a lot this would be the oh yeah this would be the big talking about it for 45 minutes yeah this would be they would have think pieces yeah about this entire state of coaching would be coming out in this entire thing but because it is arizona and because there's really i mean it sucks to say i know you got a lot of connections back there and shit aq's color comic yeah absolutely but because it's arizona it's like there's no real thought that they're going to win anything which sucks yeah Because that city is,

that might be the best city.

I'm not going to say it.

It's topped up there.

It is.

It is.

It is one of the greatest places on earth, let alone in the United States of America.

And it seems like they have everything you would possibly want or need to win, just seemingly nowhere near it at this point.

But everything could change.

And maybe Gannon stops hitting his players.

Maybe these guys will win a football game.

You know, that's literally what an argument now is all of a sudden.

Well, and it's the toughest division.

Like, this is as high stakes as it gets, I feel like, for a coach in uh gannon's position just because it's a make-or-break year that shit's happening on a football field in a make or break year you're losing to a team that legitimately might win only one game this year and that is against the cardinals now that's tough uh the biggest winner of this that we're not really talking about is brian callahan he's probably going up on his press conferences like oh you think i'm a prick you see what this guy's doing to his players sure i get upset about the game and then i you know maybe talk with a little edge to to some of you guys but hey at least I'm not jumping over this table and punching you in the face, Paul Kuwarski.

Okay, so it could be much worse.

And it's kind of awesome for Callian.

Like, shout out to Cam Ward.

Cam Ward, you know, that's his first NFL win.

Like, and the whole story is about how the other coach is beating the piss out of his player on the side.

Congratulations to that Titans.

Big time throws.

I wish Dan Oka posted them on Twitter so I could have seen them.

Why didn't he?

He's not allowed.

What?

Excuse me.

That's what he said.

What'd he say?

I want to show you these throws so bad to Cam Warmate, but I'm not allowed to post on Twitter anymore.

Well, why don't you go negotiate a deal with the NFL, Dan, like everybody else does?

Oh.

Oh, not everybody, I guess.

Just some of us.

Go do it, Dan.

Yeah.

It's no problem.

Just go reach out to them, negotiate a deal, or have your little agents do that for them.

There you go.

You know, so you get the deal done.

And I only say little agents because we actually know who they are, and they are tiny little fans.

And I assume.

Good lads.

Good lads.

I assume they're good lads.

Yeah, we don't know for sure, but we assume they're good good for Titans fans.

And since I'm not allowed to post video on here anymore, that's on you, Dan.

You acting like that's on somebody else.

That is, you're an adult.

Okay.

Since it's against the law to steal other people's content, I'm not allowed to.

Since the NFL is expecting me to call them and say, hey, can I do this with your shit?

There's a lot of people on the internet doing that.

Oh, yeah.

Too many.

So many.

It's about time.

I don't know if Dan's the right guy to be going after, and I think probably miscommunication here from people who don't know what the hell's going on at certain places.

But I think the NFL is in the middle of a potential, everybody's having a good time just stealing our shit at time.

And I don't know if they're going to like that.

Now, on that note, I'm the doofus who's been paying them for years while everybody else is just.

And I have literally just been like, I feel like I'm supposed to do this.

15% to the corner, you know?

America gangster.

Now, he kills the guy and then does it.

He does.

We like the NFL too.

Yeah, I didn't want to do it.

So I'm just 15% to the corner.

I just always thought it was the the right thing to do because we were running an internet show.

It's like, hey, I'm running a lot of your guys' shit.

Feels like I should because you guys are just going to sue me

incessantly if we don't.

Just got to work the deal, Dan.

Then all of a sudden you can do your little, listen, what this guy does, the whole thing.

Stephen, I love this gimmick for Dan.

Like, this is Dan Ordlovsky.

Like, you know, here, you know what I'm going to do?

Fine.

I'm going to post 12 timestamps of plays you need to go watch right now.

Go do some homework, okay?

I've been grinding tape.

Like, this, if I were going to think of how Dan's going to do this this is it go ahead post a bunch of plays from the game and make the fans go find them somebody did

tj lang actually went and found him and then posted it on the three

that's good

that's good internet and good football uh dan i don't want to tell your little agents what to do but like nfl plus is trying to run a little stuff they got the all 22 you can certainly do uh

sunday ticket i think probably is a way you could go through there nfl film is probably a way you could probably get in there this would require a little forethought and a handshake or two in a conversation, but

Dan, and there will have to be some sort of business done there.

But I think, Dan, we need it.

Because I can't be just banking on TJ Lang, stealing their shit and putting it up there every single time.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a league representative that used to just hit us with, we used to get sued by this company.

Oh, yeah.

More than anybody whenever we were just an internet show instead of falling under the umbrella, license our show through ESPN.

Then all of a a sudden, we're umbrella subsidiaries of a couple of the other leagues.

And it's a league that we've been a fan of since I was a little boy.

I grew up in Pittsburgh.

I was very lucky to grow up in a hockey dan.

And I'm very lucky that I'm a United States of American because there's been great USA hockey players ever since the beginning.

Obviously, everybody talks about the miracle on ice, and obviously that's something special.

But how about whenever you wake up and you watch the Olympics and there's an American taking on Russia all by his goddamn self?

Just back and forth forth on the ice.

Who's fighting Russia?

This guy.

Who's beating Russia?

This guy.

I immediately fell in love with this man.

Then I learned quickly, oh, this dude's an absolute legend, a true beauty, a standing cup champion, an NHL legend, and a man that fought for the United States of America.

Now on ESPN's NHL coverage, TJ Oshi.

Yay, TJ.

What's up, boys?

What's up?

How are we doing?

Hey, great.

Thank you so much for joining us on this official puck drop to the NHL season.

Congrats on joining the ESPN's coverage.

And I would like to say ESPN's lucky they got you as well.

So I'm very happy that that happened, man.

How are you?

How are you feeling going into the season?

And what are your thoughts?

Thank you.

Appreciate it.

Yeah.

Super excited to join ESPN.

I mentioned it on my social media, but my dad, like my childhood, little childhood before like the high school days, my dad fell asleep to Sports Center like every night of his life.

So he would, this would have been a dream come true for him.

But i'm excited i'm excited to get the the season rolling i've never watched as a fan before retiring in june so uh this will be my first year i actually didn't watch any hockey growing up at all so what this will be my first year being yeah i know it's weird yeah it's really weird but well i'm happy you're the expert i'm going to be listening to jeez

i know the game don't get me wrong i played i played long enough

i can i can follow pretty good but um i'm excited to sit back and be able to see some more hockey this year.

I think your perspective is going to be glorious, actually, if you've never watched how hockey's been covered.

That is something that is, I'm kind of intrigued to see how you break it down because you're going to see things obviously that people haven't seen.

And then you're going to realize, like,

you might change the way hockey's covered.

You might be like, hey, here's something that maybe we need to look for.

And they might add a camera, the Oshi cam.

You might save the entire sport because you've never watched the sport that you're about to cover before.

Let's talk about how many years you played and let's talk.

How do you think the NHL has changed with its relationship with media?

Because there's been a long time where we don't know anything about the hockey players, really.

The NHL players, we grew up in Pittsburgh and all we knew is they won.

And then after you win the Stanley Cup, everybody parties.

And then these things, these hockey players just kind of disappear.

They go into hibernation and they somehow get into better shape.

And then they have another season.

We don't hear anything.

Then I think Spit and Chiclet's kind of opened the door a little bit.

And then the kind of the way we've learned about hockey players has kind of grown.

Multiple different networks and platforms having the NHL now.

How do you feel that has like kind of affected the locker room or hockey?

And how much more do you think we have in that department to grow the game, if you will?

I think there's definitely a lot of room.

We'll start there.

I think the emergence of people having their own platforms, their own social media, you're getting guys to see a little bit more personality.

I think hockey in general is a very team, very tight sport.

You don't give anyone anything.

You know, it's upper body, lower body.

Sometimes that's even wrong.

So

it's hard for as a team because you don't want to give anyone anything on you and you want to put the team in front of yourself at all times.

And so

I think hockey is doing a good job in getting into that where the team still is first, but now with social media and some other things, you're able to see the players' personalities a little bit.

Maybe it's not, you know, in every interview, but

I mean, the hockey culture is one that's fantastic to be a part of.

A lot of really, really good people.

And so

it's great to see some more personalities come out and you can kind of learn a little bit more about people.

And instead of, you know, like you said, kind of hibernating and going away, same thing when we won the cup.

You know, we didn't know what to do.

We were like, the fans felt like such a big part of this.

We're going to party in the streets.

We're opening the doors to everything.

And

it was a great way to celebrate.

I know the fans loved it.

We loved it.

And

yeah, but like you mentioned, Spin Chickens does a good job.

They kind of go behind the scenes a little bit.

A couple of NHL guys on there,

a couple of my buddies.

But there's definitely still a lot more room for to see the

personalities of the players.

If you could actually see in the locker room how we are, it's,

I mean, I play with Ovie.

So like,

if you could see kind of how we are in the locker room, it's wild.

Yeah, it's an incredible culture.

And I think part of your culture is like, hey, don't bring the attention on yourself, which is why we respect and appreciate the culture so much but it's hard to grow the culture when the culture is i don't want any attention like it's like a it's like a constant battle but i think hockey's in the middle of a great renaissance right now and we're thankful and pumped that you're going to be a part of the coverage you just mentioned ovie we had him on the show last year he immediately introduced everybody on team yeah hey this is hey this is it was amazing like it was incredible he's og but i do think he is a good representative of how hockey players feel on that note.

You talked about taking in the streets.

Go ahead, Con man.

Yeah, TJ, you said you guys didn't know what to do after you won the Stanley Cup, but that feels like bullshit because Ovechkin did it better than anybody in the history of the NHL.

What was it like kind of following his lead when it came to party?

And we know what it was like on the ice.

It seemed as though he, you know, he knew what he was doing, scoring goals.

Now he's the greatest goal scorer of all time.

What was it like kind of once you win that cup and you're looking at Alex Ovechkin and some of those guys in that locker room?

And, you know, you basically just party for 10 days straight.

Was it just the time of your life or what?

Yeah, I mean, it definitely was.

I mean, we felt like we were on top of the world.

Yeah, there's probably not a better guy to party with when you win the Stanley Cup than the big man.

So, I mean,

we had a lot of a lot of good times.

I'll tell you

when I kind of came up with doing the, you know, the cake stand, the cup stands,

I was going to go super hot out.

And I was like, there wasn't a lot of beer coming to us.

There's fans around us.

And I was like, we got to do something to fire this thing up.

And so I was like, I told Tom Wilson, me and we're kind of partners in crime a little bit.

And I was like, hey, let's go do a cake stand on the cup.

And he was like, really?

And I was like, yeah, let's do this.

And he was like, all right, all right, let's go.

Let's go.

And I was like, wait, wait, Ovie has to be first.

And I'm not a big guy at all.

Ovie's a lot heavier than me.

And so me and Tom, Tom has no problem, but we're lifting Ovie upside down to do a cup stand.

And I remember that that next day from lifting the cup, from lifting up Ovie and then the rest of the guys that funneled in, my arms, I could barely lift my arms over my head.

Upper body.

And it was

upper body.

Yeah, I was an upper body for sure.

I was on the men for a couple weeks, but

we got her going the next day and I forgot about it.

But no, the big man, he definitely sets the tone and we all follow.

You know, the pictures I have on my phone of, you know, me and him celebrating, just pure joy

is pretty special.

Tonight we got a three-piece as we launch this next hockey season.

And Penguins, Rangers at 8 p.m., Blackhawks, Panthers

shoot it off, skate it off.

I don't know what you guys say.

You get it.

It's not kick it off, whatever it is, at 5 p.m.

And then 10:30, Avalanche and Kings.

Everybody's hunting one particular trophy, and you just mentioned it there at the Cup.

There's been one team that seemingly wants to own it forever.

And D-Butt, South Florida Native, has been a fan fan since the beginning.

Hell yeah.

Has a question for you, TJ.

31, 30, 32 years.

TJ, you just talk about partying.

Brought me back some flashbacks to the elbow room the last couple of years.

But our leader, the guy that sets the tone for us, Barkey, will be out for a significant time turning his ACL MCL.

What are our chances getting that three-peat with Barkey being down and Chuck even kind of limping into the season?

I think, I mean, I think Florida just has to get in, right?

Guys are going to have to step up, which is very hard to do over a long period of time.

We saw that with, you know, with our captain with Ovie.

If he was out for a couple games, you know, we could make do.

We could find a way to spread out the

contributions.

But over a long period of time, it's very tough in the NHL.

Barkey, a guy I respect a ton, very hard to play against.

Chucky,

great, obviously phenomenal player.

I played with his dad back in St.

Louis back in the day.

It's going to be tough for sure, but if anyone can do it, it's them.

I mean,

they're just built for a next

man-up mentality.

You watch them in the playoffs.

Every player sacrifices and does the things that are necessary for the team to win, not necessarily for them to get their cookies.

So

it's a team that's built to make another run at it.

The injuries are definitely going to hurt.

And if they can find a way to recover from that, if they can find some of these young guys to step up into these larger roles, I think they're going to be right there in the postseason.

And who knows with how people have been coming back from these knee surgeries lately?

If Barkov gets back in, when Chucky gets in, he's going to be phenomenal.

So it's going to be fun to watch, fun to tag along.

I don't know how you and Marshi get along or not.

Didn't mention his name.

He's back down there, obviously.

That's a huge trade.

I like it.

Any rivals that you have two carrying into TV, I think, is a good thing, not a bad thing.

We have about 35 seconds here, but we have to ask.

Go ahead, Tom.

Yeah, TJ, quick here.

Connor McDavid signed a two-year $12.5 million per extension with the Oilers.

A lot of people saying, hey, crazy, this guy who is so talented left this much money on the table.

What are your thoughts on this?

And does this ultimately just kind of set up, hey, if he doesn't get it done in Edmonton here in the next couple of years, then he is definitely gone?

Yeah, I'll start it up with, as a teammate, if I was Connor McDavid's teammate and I saw that that's what he signed, I'm running through a brick wall every night.

And I'm saying, this guy's making a sacrifice.

Now I got to make my sacrifice.

I'm getting paid probably what i deserve he is not he's taking a pay cut so that we can win let's go do it so um i think it's it's a

you know a charismatic thing to do um it's what a leader should do i don't think he has anything to prove to anyone as as someone that went against them i think he's the best player in the world and he clearly wants to win a cup Yes, he does.

He needs to, doesn't he?

We'll talk about that later.

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Football!

That's 47-year football coach BA with an incredible cadence check.

What's it sound like?

You gotta go deep, baby.

Yeah, okay.

How many years have you been doing that, you think?

Oh, since I was nine.

And I just turned 73 a couple days ago.

Happy birthday!

Happy birthday!

We had a birthday game, too, you know, obviously.

How'd you golf?

Did you play golf, Dave, your birthday?

I sure did.

How'd you shoot?

I had a good day.

We've been down to Florida.

Dave Moss put on a great event for a lot of good charities down there, and we had a great time.

Were you playing Scramble?

You weren't playing your own ball?

We played our own ball one day, played Scramble the next.

What'd you shoot?

You shoot your birthday or your age?

No, I shot 82.

I was a little tough on those greens down there, but

we made every, we were 15 under in the scramble and came in fourth.

Yeah, somebody's cheating.

Oh, no, these guys are really good.

Okay, okay.

All right, all right.

That Toxic Tables here at Boston Conner at Ty Schmidt, nine-year NFL vet, Florida Panthers back-to-back standing cup champs, super, uh, super fan.

Ladies and gentlemen, Darius J.

Brothers here.

And joining us now live from Manatican, Ohio, ladies and gentlemen.

He's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a rod cup winner.

Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawker.

Hawker Jags, huge.

You felt it?

You like the Jags plus three and a half.

You like the Over as well.

The Jacksonville Jaguars get a huge win against kansas city chiefs on monday night football down there at home maybe ignite an entire fan base to believe in what liam cohen and stoner are doing down there even more primetime television our first chance really to see trevor lawrence and travis hunter do their thing brian thomas jr obviously with a huge catch here what are your thoughts on what you saw last night and uh is the chiefs still the chiefs or what what's going on uh aj hawk I mean, I think the Chiefs can still become the Chiefs of who we know.

I think the Jags are legit, though.

I got to give credit first to Devin Lloyd.

Are you kidding me?

That 99-yard pick six was just unbelievable.

The fact that he's able to convert that for the score is huge.

And what a great play getting lost in line, coming off the center turn.

Bam, here we go.

Like, what a beautiful situation.

And, Debut, you mentioned it in the earlier, right?

Who got this block at the end?

Who is it?

Heinz Allen.

Yeah.

Like, just a little bit right there.

That's all he needed to get him in the end zone, which is a huge deal because who knows what happens if you give the offense the ball there in the two or three yard line.

So this was awesome.

Also, give Travis Hunter the ball in space as much as you possibly can.

Yeah, let's get a couple of these.

Let's get a couple.

He majored in defense at Colorado, had a package of offense.

So obviously he did some meeting and practice on the offensive side, but he was primarily a DB, which we watched.

He was unbelievable, drifting out of coverage, making plays out of his zone, doing all the stuff that he did defensively.

But on the offensive side, them having a couple plays for him to take advantage of his athleticism and his burst.

I mean, he's doing Tyreek Hill type shit.

That's Tyree type stuff right there.

Like when a guy is a yard away from you and you would not have been tackled in flag football.

That is like Tyree Hill type stuff.

Travis Hunter has that capability.

And obviously on defense, we talked about it with Liam Cohen and obviously the starter show.

He's locked up on Travis Kelsey on a third down.

I mean, they obviously have a lot of faith.

So he's majoring in offense while learning the defense.

And they said they have no real, let's see how it goes, basically, is how they're doing it.

No minute wasted throughout the day for meetings or individual drills or practice or whatever.

How do you feel about it, AJ, now that we're five weeks into this and they're four and one?

This team's four and one right now down in Jacksonville.

Yeah, Jacksonville is, I mean, they're letting us know that they, you know, they should, they feel like they're a legit contender.

And with Travis Hunter, I guess I understand them feeling that, but the guy is so special when the ball is in the air.

I love watching him on offense.

I love what he's doing on defense as well.

But you see that play when they motion him out of the backfield and they're sitting there like anytime a team wants to play his own, let's say they want to drop to the sticks, to the first down mark, keep their eyes on the quarterback and, you know, they'll let you throw the ball two or three yards and they're going to break and make the tackle get off the field.

Like you're not with Travis Hunter.

That's the thing.

And I think too, future, the more times he gets the ball and he shows this, it kind of like it'll slow you down as a defense too sometimes.

You're like, hey, man, like I know if

I'm the curl flat dropper there right there and I'm saying, hey, buddy, I need some help inside.

Like I'll be, I'll be outside.

I'll try not to let him get back outside of me, but I need you guys running inside out.

I'm going to need some help here.

So I think kind of will slow the defense down as well when they're trying to attack him.

Now, he's, I don't want to add more, but if he was to be a returner, he'd be unbelievable.

I mean, he's special.

There's been a couple guys where it's like, can he do his college shit in the NFL?

Like Caleb Williams, I think.

It was like, will Caleb be able to do the college stuff that he was able to do in the NFL when everybody is running 4-4, 4-3, 4-2?

You got all the all-star.

Travis Hunter's able to outrun NFL guys now.

So we're understanding that he is going to be able to athletically exceed most people that he's on a field with, which was a question.

Like, hey, he was a Colorado.

Is he big fish, great athlete in small pond?

Now we're seeing it at the biggest stage.

Is that a proper statement to describe how Travis Hunter is playing right now, BA?

Yeah, I think, you know, Deion was the first.

I had Patrick Peterson, who we put on offense and could run routes as good as anybody at Great Ants and did a little bit for us because we didn't have enough speed.

And what I see him doing is just amazing.

Have you ever had a player where it was a package on defense as opposed to a package on offense?

I think it's much more normal for a DB to have a package on offense as opposed to a wide receiver to have a package on defense.

Julian Edelman?

Yeah, and even then he wasn't really playing offense.

He was more so like, hey, let's find a spot for this guy.

Special teams and safety.

But he was listed as a wide receiver.

Then once he became wide receiver, it was like, okay, he's not playing on the defensive side.

Very rare that you see the major in offense and then package on defense.

Feels like that's what they're doing right now, but who knows what they do in the future whenever he understands everything.

How do you think they're viewing it for after talking to Liam Keller?

Yeah, I think for offensive guys, tackling is a big problem on defense.

Contact.

And going down and running somebody down, but I think Liam's doing a great job with it.

They're letting him grow into it instead of force-feeding him.

Just how much can you handle mentally?

Because there's so much.

When you talk about that meeting time offensively, you're not talking about five or six plays now.

You're talking maybe 100 plays on offense, maybe eight or nine coverages, plus your red zone packages, all your special situational stuff this kid's got to be really really smart yeah yeah and nobody talks about that because you know jocks are stupid football players are stupid it's like i punter had the best playbook

long snapper probably had the best playbook legit i think long snapper had the best one vinetary had a pretty easy one too just kind of just got to do that one make it yeah so punt and kickoff i had like seven different options to pull from you know right left middle

bad onside.

Let's go get that.

Yeah, onside, right, left, middle.

Kay,

pass plays.

You got your.

Oh, yeah, we got a couple fakes.

Maybe we'll put in there for the week of, but then we're done.

You know, that is.

I pretty much got that thing mastered.

Maybe first day of looking at it, you know, maybe first date on the job.

You guys, what you're and AJ will always say, I don't need your numbers.

Just tell me where, you know, that whole thing.

The amount of intricacies in it all, that's why it's not as easy.

Just pick up a rugby player and throw them in or anybody anybody that plays another sport that's contact sported like, hey, you can put him in there.

The checks, the natural things, it's like, it feels like his football IQ is good and great.

I would say elite at this level.

It's like the books now, like the book studying is what everybody has to catch up in the NFL level.

Is that kind of normal for DBs, wide receivers?

Is that the separator between NFL and college?

Obviously, you got to be an elite athlete to play these positions, but the difference is all in between.

years.

That's the separator every level you go up.

So little league, all right, you're the best guy in the field.

You play both ways, never come off the field.

Then you go up to high school, okay?

Are you still that good?

Some guys do.

A lot of guys do still play both ways.

Then you go to big-time college ball, and it's like, oh, shit, everybody is Mr.

Ohio, Mr.

New Jersey, Mr.

Florida.

So everybody's good now.

So now it's about

how many advantages can you get?

How many things can you anticipate?

How do you communicate?

How do you learn?

How do you adjust?

How do you respond?

How do you work in the offseason?

All those different things.

And then once you get to the pro level, it's the same thing because we always see it.

Guys getting drafted, you know, top five top 10 first round second round it's a lot of it's based on their physical gifts and what they can be but once you get to the next level we saw it a little bit with travis hunter early as good as he was you can almost tell when he wasn't completely comfortable with the plays or didn't necessarily know where he was lining up or didn't know okay should i be at 12 or 14 yards to this route and all those things matter um on this level so after listening to liam talk and how his time is spent, you almost have to be like a football savant at this point.

Like spatial awareness on both sides of the field you got to be able to communicate and be on the same page with everyone i love the fact liam said a couple weeks ago in a press conference i think one of the receivers got hurt and they asked him okay are you going to put more x more z and he's like nah he's he's playing f like that's his position on offense so that's good for him to know regardless of the game plan this is my position i need to learn and i'm sure it's similar on the defensive side of the ball but for him to be able to do this physically mentally we know the athlete that he is like some of those things like his ball skills you knew that would translate like we saw it on every level his ball skills were unique the speed we just saw him running stride for stride with Xavier word the fastest guy we ever seen come through the combine so all the physical things he got it it's just about mentally and then physically can he you know basically stay upright regardless of what position you're playing shit you had how many surgeries at punter four you know it's a tough long season so that's that'll probably be his biggest challenge just knees knees knees knees for me

you know it is uh i hope science figures out the knees aj does as well we are both limpers after long walking because we have no cartilage in there.

It's supposed to make life a little bit easier.

Here's some stats for Travis Hunter last night.

Talk about being in shape.

I believe Hembo sent these over.

35 offensive snaps.

He had 19 in the slot, 14 outside, and one tight end.

19 routes, three receptions on three targets, 64 yards, including a 17 yards after catch, which we saw electrify.

25 defensive snaps, all outside corner.

He traveled 1,500.

eight and a half yards per NFL next-gen stats, only player with 1,500 plus in multiple games this season.

So he's obviously continuing the trend from what he did at Colorado.

Colorado was like 110 plays a game or something like that.

It was average.

And everybody's like, can he do that in an NFL season?

It's like, well, they're starting right now, and they're just at the beginning of this.

So let's go to one of our favorite segments of the week.

Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for BS or no BS

with BA.

And the first one here is about Travis Hunter.

Ladies and gentlemen, BS or no BS is when BA gives us whether or not a statement of fact is bullshit or no bullshit.

Let's get to the first one here.

It's about Travis Hunter.

Travis Hunter should play both ways.

No question asked.

Now, there's certainly somebody that has said this somewhere.

So we didn't want to give the proper credit to the quote because it's certainly coming from somewhere.

Travis Hunter should play both ways.

No questions asked.

Is that BS or no BS at this point, BA?

That is definitely no bullshit.

Okay.

It's just how much more can he play?

You know what I mean?

Just don't overload him because if you're thinking in the National Football League, you're playing too slow.

Yep.

All right.

If you got to think,

you're losing.

So keep it really

simple for him where he can just use all that God-given talent and play so fast.

Okay, so you're thinking that's no BS.

Debuts, do you agree at this point, too, after what you were saying yesterday?

Yesterday, I didn't agree.

Today, after watching him in prime time,

it's like, yeah, you get him on the field as much as he can handle.

He is an ultimate chess piece that we haven't seen.

Let him do what the hell he wants to do.

AJ, final thoughts on this being no BS?

We're letting him do.

Are we going to change this answer in four or five weeks as the season continues?

Or is this just in the moment answer, AJ?

No,

I agree.

This is no BS because I like what Debut said, Liam's saying.

He has a position on offense.

He knows, like, this is your role.

You study this.

You know, first you learn this inside out, and then you will slowly start to learn what everybody else around you is doing.

B.A., how difficult do you think it is for Liam, though, as like you being an offensive guy, like knowing, hey, he can help us out on both sides of the ball, but like, I want him on offense for the majority of the game because we've seen it early.

There are only a handful of guys in the NFL who are legitimate threats to score every time they touch the ball, and he's one of them.

Like, so how difficult is that in the back of your head when you are an offensive guy?

It's like, well, you know what, maybe let's not send him out there on defense this possession because I want him fresh on offense.

Yeah, the kid is in such fabulous shape.

You know, I don't think stamina is a problem.

He's obviously shown that at Colorado.

He played like 150 plays at one game.

Yes.

And so it's more mental.

And as long as he doesn't slow down mentally, I'm using him as much as I possibly can.

Keep him at one position.

Don't ask him to learn all three wide receiver positions.

That's two other guys' jobs.

You learn your job on offense.

And like Liam said, running routes, but reading coverage.

When you start adjusting routes, in college, you don't adjust that much.

Either take the middle or you break in.

It's that simple.

But he's learning so much how to run routes.

and be effective at it.

But like you said earlier, get the damn thing to him quick, let him run with it.

And the more he knows, the better he knows it, the more confident he is, which goes back to what he butts talk about.

Yeah, he's playing faster, he feels like he's not lining up, he's not asking people where to go.

So, I think he probably wants to learn this as much as possible, but it only happens as it happens, you know.

Yeah, and his vibes always being immaculate through all this.

He's a good one, Travis.

You're a good one, bro.

Before we get to the next BS or no BS, there's a breaking news in the AFC North.

What?

The Bengal,

after getting their asses absolutely smacked the last couple weeks without Joe Flacco.

I'm sorry, without Joe Burrow, are trading for the other Joe Cool.

What?

Joe Flacco.

Rapsheet and Tom Pellisero were on it.

They go from cool Joe to the coolest Joe.

They go from Burrow with an EAU X

to Flacco with a John accent.

Ty Schmidt, you are seemingly flabbergasted by this move.

Why are you reacting the way that you were reacting?

Because the fucking Packers play the Bengals this week.

Joe Flacco just beat him a couple weeks ago with the Browns.

He's going to come back in, fucking beat him again.

Joe Flacco is going to beat the Packers.

I was really looking forward to, you know, getting a bite out of the Jake Browning apple.

It was cool.

So we're not in those DVs for the Packers.

Now we got Joe Flacco who comes back this time.

So on that note,

Mike Tomlin said this about the Pittsburgh Steelers a couple years ago when Anthony Richardson was playing and Joe Flacco was the backup.

Mike Tomlin told the Pittsburgh Steelers defense, we do not hurt Anthony Richardson.

We do not want that six foot six thing walking onto this field and playing against us.

Now, inevitably, Joe Flacco did make an appearance in that particular game.

I think people that have been around ball respect Joe Flacco.

Okay.

So I think that's why Ty right there goes, oh, no, Joe Flacco can't do it.

Jake Browning, Apple.

And he's got Jamar Chase.

Yeah, I wanted all of these.

Jamar Chase still there.

Yeah, T.

Higgins is healthy.

Joe Flacco can still.

He's going to come in and say, I beat these guys a couple weeks ago.

I know exactly what we're going to do.

He might be calling the coins.

Yeah, he probably is.

AJ, how is Ohio going to react to the Flacco move from one part of the state to the other?

I think Ohio people are going to be very happy about this.

I live in Bangles country pretty much.

There's definitely Browns fans as well, but a lot of people have been saying, Jameis, Andy Dalton, somebody, like they got to bring somebody in here to Cincinnati.

I feel like Flacco, maybe I did overlook him at first, but maybe he is the answer.

He'll get the ball, he'll get the ball to those superstars, though.

I promise you that he'll push the ball to them.

Is he the ruler of the jungle this week, too?

Please, no.

Oh, if he is, then the Packers might as well not even fucking play.

This, I mean, this is just bad news.

This is bad.

This is not what I needed today.

Do you think

this in the history of sports media?

Do you think

that the way ESPN, because our show is currently on ESPN, would react to a starting quarterback trade within a division will go the way we just did it right there?

Do you think there would be

39-year-old quarterbackers playing back?

Oh, no, he's going to beat the Packers once.

Packers are the best year football week that.

Yeah.

That's got to be one of the stats, guys.

Has anybody started for two different teams and beat the same team in the same year?

Yeah, we'll see you Sunday, Coach.

It'll be the first time and the last time it's ever happened.

Okay, let's talk about this, actually, because I think there is a BS or no BS about the age of quarterbacks.

So let's get to the age of quarterbacks one, because Joe Flacco, obviously 39 years old, still playing.

And then these guys that are getting like their mid prime resurgencies is because the conversation is basically maybe there aren't enough talented young quarterbacks in the NFL.

So that statement has been made on a plenty of occasion, which is why these guys get a second shot at it.

There aren't enough enough talented young QBs in the NFL.

Quarterback Whisperer BA, is that BS or is that no BS?

That is total bullshit.

Oh, really?

When you look at the kids, I call them kids, 26 and under, this is the future of the league, and the league is in great hands.

I mean, just look at what they're doing.

Drake May, Caleb.

Jaden Daniels, on and on.

There's like eight or nine of them, and it is Jordan Love.

I mean,

every team is in good hands with these young guys, and I think it's just a bright, bright future, especially for offensive football.

Okay, so these guys like Joe Flacco are still getting opportunities, or maybe these older quarterbacks that are getting ops.

That's always the way it's been around the league, or are we just putting more spotlight on it now?

Like Joe Flacco getting another opportunity to be a starting quarterback.

That's not an indictment on the other options that are out there at a younger age.

It's just Joe Flacco's a guy that can still play good ball somewhere.

Yeah, I mean, Jake Brownie, he's had some really good games for the Bengals, and I think he's just had some really shitty ones lately, and they had enough.

So

they turned to door number two, and there's Joe.

I would have guessed Jameis or somebody else, too, but I'm excited to see Joe throw to those guys.

Yes.

I mean, the speed, and he's still one of the best deep ball throwers in the league.

I think Zach Taylor's probably pretty pumped up about it as well.

He's about sick and tired of watching Jake Brown and sit on the sideline after his third interception.

And Zach Taylor's thinking to himself, everybody thinks I'm a big dumb dip shit.

You think Zach Taylor's pumped?

About Joe Flock.

You think he's pumped about it?

Did you see the way the Packers fans just reacted, D-Buck?

I'm just asking a question.

What do you think?

What do you think?

I mean, look, I like Joe.

I love Joe.

Former Colt.

Is that right?

Footstep, he did some good things for us.

And I guess this is a situation where I guess you know what you're going to get.

You know, you expect Joe Burrow to come back maybe at the end of the year.

Maybe some people expected the other Browns quarterback, Shador Sanders, it may be.

But you don't know what you're going to get.

It's a rookie.

At least you can see what you got there.

It may be Russ.

So this is this is a head scratcher uh but we'll see ty ty obviously feels a certain way about it so maybe i'm wrong and maybe we do get the new qb bump at least for this week but we know we we know the conversation we're going to be having in about two weeks uh somebody uh just dropped into my ear with a jinzer accent let's go to hammer dot time ap tone the afc north cooking big quarterback shuffle in the afc north tone this sucks and dbutz is right he's eventually going to be right but i had the same reaction that ty Ty had because I don't think Joe is going to play this week.

I don't think you get traded on a Tuesday and play on Sunday against the Packers.

I think you get traded on Tuesday, you learn the offense for a week, and then you beat the Steelers on Thursday night football at home.

Like, that's the quarterback bump game.

That's the game you win, okay?

And then you go off and you suck the rest of the season.

So I think Ty is okay.

I think the Steelers are screwed.

So listen, this is how our show is reacting to Joe Flacco getting traded, by the way.

A sixth rounder and a fifth rounder are getting flopped in the trade as well.

There's a little bit more details.

We got tie from the Packers going, oh, no, Flacco's about to beat us.

And then you got the Steelers next week going, he's not actually, he's going to beat us.

I mean, there he is.

There's fear around the NFL

with Joe Flacco getting traded.

And, hey, maybe he does another magical mid-season run with the team to the playoffs, Con Man.

Yeah, exactly.

No matter what, you know, whether they're winning or losing, we know.

T.

Higgins and Jamar Chase are about to have some 80-yard touchdown opportunities, ball going through the air the whole time, but kind of awesome for the Browns.

Like, if you look at that young quarterbacks, you know, conversation, all of a sudden, Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders, you got to think Cleveland feels great about both of them if they're comfortable moving on from Flacco.

Dylan Gabriel, I believe, played turnover-free football in his first game, and his first game happened to be.

He looked apart.

He did, yeah.

He really recognized

that.

I thought he looked fantastic against that defense.

I mean, and the size obviously was talked about because it had to be talked about because it was one of the only things that was like a big-time knock.

Because if you looked at any of his his college tape against damn near everybody he is very efficient in a very accurate quarterback i think people talk about his leadership and how people like him so like the only knock was hey he's 5'11 we gotta talk about that because most of these quarterbacks big tall guys it's not easy he looked very comfortable as an nfl quarterback and he was spinning it all over the place do you think cleveland with this move is saying we're comfortable with what we have here and we're going to continue to i don't think there's any doubt about it yeah they they really like what they saw and they obviously feel like shador's uh ready to go too that's fascinating kenny pickett out of town, right?

Joe Flacco out of town.

Now it's just the two rookies basically in that quarterback room that we've chatted about since the offseason.

Then a lot of people say, hey, this is how it's going to go.

I'm sure Dan Orlofsky is taking a full.

Oh, yeah.

If you were going to trade both guys.

Why aren't we starting the rookies?

And I don't even know if he's allowed to tweet that.

He'll probably post a timestamp from NFL Live.

And when he said, hey, listen, I'm not allowed to tweet this.

I could certainly go make something happen to be able to tweet this, but I'm just going to sit here and be told no and just not do anything about it.

But he basically said, if we're inevitably going to get to the rookies, why are we even doing the song and dance?

I think they thought they were going to win with Flacco.

Like I thought, I think they thought that they were going to be able to do what they did a few years ago, have success, and then there would be some perfect time to hand it over to a rookie, whichever one.

Now, they like Dylan Gabriel more.

They draft him in the third round as opposed to the fifth round.

I think that was their envision.

That was what they were hoping for.

They obviously get to Dylan Gabriel at the time they get to him.

He looks the part, and then they decide to pull the trigger and move on.

How do you think it goes in that building what do you think the thoughts are over there because the defense

you can win with that defense every week every week every week they can in the playoffs too yeah every week in the regular season and every week in the playoffs you can win with that defense so the offense just needs to be uh and stefanski what offensive guru so he's at the point now where both these rookies he thinks he's going to be able to win with i think that's a good thing for the cleveland bronze and then the sean watson i don't know who mentioned it earlier in the week but he will be healthy at some point during this season so we'll see what happens there.

He's still, you know, fairly young.

We'll see what happens when he's healthy.

But yeah, you got to feel pretty confident about Dylan Gabriel, number one, because this team, if you can go out there and score, let's say, 21, 24 points a game, you got a chance to win every week with this defense and how they play ball on that side of it.

And then you got to be comfortable with Shador, his progression, and where he is to be able, because when you have a backup, you got to be ready for this guy to go in and play and drive the ship as well.

So I'm interested to see how this goes.

Everybody kind of saw it playing out this way.

Start the season with Devet Flacco, move on to the rookies because next year they have the multiple first-round picks and they could possibly move up and draft the quarterback as well, depending on how things shake out with the guy that has $230 million guaranteed.

So this would be interesting.

But this is, you know, Cleveland, being Cleveland.

On that note, I think that guy got the $230 million flu.

when it comes to on-field stuff.

I'm not getting into off-field stuff.

On-field stuff feels like that guy's trying not to ruin life, you know, because he has the biggest bag in the history of the NFL.

That whole thing did not work at all, which has put them into the position that they're currently in.

And not to be forgotten in the entire story, Bailey Zip on the ball zappy also on the Cleveland Browns.

Here we go.

Oh, man.

Yeah, they got talent over there.

They feel real good, though.

They got talent over there.

I just wish that defense would have showed up in the last three minutes.

Oh, yeah?

You're talking about Carson Wentz?

Yeah.

You don't think Carson Wentz just figured them out?

It took him 57 minutes maybe to figure out what was going on on the defensive side.

What's the laugh?

What's the laugh?

We're paying these defensive linemen a lot of money.

They need to.

Carter Wentz need to be on his ass.

That's hilarious.

We talked about him talking about Gannon earlier.

You heard him just old school right there, too.

These guys getting how much money?

Can't make a fucking.

What are we paying him for?

Fifth overall pick?

What are you even here for?

We got a rookie quarterback who's got the lead.

And we can't close the game with this defense?

How do you feel about the Browns?

I mean, the AFC North as a whole has become...

I want to see that defense be dominant.

When they are dominant, I think they can win them with a rookie quarterback because they've got a hell of a running back.

They've got enough talent around them, good offensive line.

So, yeah.

But that defense has got to be dominant.

Stefanski, how do you guys view him?

I don't know how he's kept his job this long.

That's exactly.

Most coaches view that way.

But I think the reason why he's kept his job this long is because I think there's alleged kind of understanding.

Haslam's the one that made the deal.

Because remember, the Cleveland Browns were out of the running.

It was going to be Atlanta or New Orleans.

He was going to get traded to.

And then all of a sudden, out of the clouds, if the story goes the way we've been kind of told it or followed, they came in with the $230 million guarantee.

Hey, here's this, the biggest offer, fully guaranteed.

You do this.

And then all of a sudden, wait a minute, well, we will go to Cleveland if that's what's happening.

He ends up at Cleveland.

So I think a lot of people in the media have just said, well, that ownership decision has kind of slowed down Andrew Berry and Stefanski's ability to develop team and coach team.

Now, they've moved on from Baker.

Obviously, Baker's had the success that he's had and everything like that.

But I think everybody in the media's eyes just kind of give him a pass because the ownership decided to tie up the largest percentage in the history of a salary cap and kind of hamstring the entire team.

Coaches, though, do they see it that way?

Or is this?

I know.

Coaches are all about winning, man.

It's all wins and losses.

You can be the nicest guy in the world.

You're going out the door.

But I think maybe they see that continuity does matter because they went through so many people so fast in the Browns history that they are trying to copy the Steelers a little bit.

And hey, let's keep our guys.

Let's keep our coaches.

Let's keep some continuity, and we'll put it together.

All right, let's go to and stay in the AFC North with another BS or no BSBA.

Somebody said it, and it was a lot of people, the Ravens are in a lot of trouble.

Okay, that's just a quote.

Is that BS or no BSBA?

That's no BS.

I just can't imagine the Ravens giving up 44 points at home.

I mean, having gone through the dogfights that we've had in that stadium, it's embarrassing.

It really is for that defense to play like that.

But I don't think, I still think Baltimore is going to make the playoffs.

Hold on.

So they're still the odds on favor to win AFC North right now, too?

Well, they got the Rams.

If they pulled this one out with all the injuries, they do have a ton of injuries now.

They can pull off one at home against the Rams.

They get the bye week, they get guys back, and then they hit their in-division schedule, which isn't that hard on paper.

So I think they can still pull it out.

You got hope for the Ravens still?

I really do.

Yeah.

The defense has been a massive question mark, not just this season, last year, year too, the first 10 weeks, I believe, the defense was a massive question mark.

Then they were able to figure it out.

What are they not doing?

Just everything?

Because we watch some of the low lights and it's like, wow, this team sucks.

They're playing defense like a team that stinks.

Like they don't look like the Baltimore Ravens at all, to your point.

They can't stop the run.

Obviously, they missed Paduque.

Matabeke, and that's a huge loss.

But then Marlon's out, Hamilton's out.

Now they're throwing it on the score.

I mean, they're all out.

Hopefully they get them all.

Humphreys public.

He's got a a terrible stat here.

Yeah, because he's doing his podcast out there during those camps.

He can't act like a weirdo on it.

Can't do it.

He was bummed out, which I appreciate.

Hembo sent over a stat that people are not going to want to hear.

Hey, Budda, close your ears and eyes.

You too, Stavi.

Ravens defense, how bad is it?

Hembo's writing this entire thing.

We did not edit any of this.

Josh Allen this season, MVP betting favorite currently.

1,217 pass yards, nine touchdowns, two interceptions, eight sacks, 72.1 QBR.

Taking on the Ravens this year.

1,312 yards, 13 touchdowns, one interception, six sacks, 73.2 QBR.

You play like an MVP.

Literally, the betting favorite MVP is what they're averaging, giving up.

Okay, so if you played the Ravens every single week and you were quarterback, odds on betting favorite right now, you would be to win the MVP.

That's not good.

No, it's not.

That's not Baltimore.

That's not Ravensbury.

That's not Baltimore.

No.

Yeah, there's a crazy stat actually with it not being Baltimore.

I saw it just on the internet earlier.

In 2000, when it was, you know, Baltimore Ravens.

Oh, you did?

Yep.

Oh, okay.

No, go ahead, go ahead.

No, we don't.

But they gave up like 140 points in that season.

And through five weeks, the Ravens have given up like 172 points.

Yeah, there it is.

Jeez, Louise.

That's absurd.

There's a lot of those stats happening.

Five?

Yeah, it's early in the season.

It's insane.

Yeah, it's not, and I think that's why Baltimore Ravens fans have just, they've like almost comically given up because they're like, what is this?

Yeah.

You know, like, I think they're kind of blindsided.

Almost like Chris Jones was.

I'm not.

I think Chris Jones was just, what the fuck?

He thought he was down.

He thought he was down.

I think

now when that guy's running by him and he just kind of like watching him, that's not a good look at all.

But I do think Chris Jones was kind of hypnotized by the whole thing.

Like, what is it?

The guy just fell twice.

I saw him fall two times.

He's getting crushed for good reason.

And I assume Chris Jones feels terrible.

If he was to talk about it after watching the film, he would probably say this is disgusting.

But it's not a good look.

It's certainly not a good look.

Every D-lineman you've been around, you've been around some great ones.

Hall of Famers, when you see a quarterback on the ground, what dive, Steve, dive, dive, tap one, steal one.

Just get a touch.

You want a sack, a half a sack.

So it's no excuse for this.

And Chris Jones is obviously a great player.

He's been a great player for a long, long time.

I haven't seen this.

I remember the first, was it the first week when they played the Chargers?

And he went inside and Herbert broke the edge and basically sealed the game slot.

And you saw Drew Tranquil, I believe, kind of going after him.

And I don't know what exactly that conversation was.

And even earlier in this game down the stretch, he did the same inside move, and Trevor Lawrence scrambled to the outside.

So I would assume that Spaggs is probably having some tough conversations in front of the unit, knowing him and how he operates.

Probably Andy Reid the same way because you go as that guy goes on the defensive side of the ball, and it's been that way for a long time.

He's been a game record for a long time right there.

We have another move, another signing.

We're just talking about this defense.

CJ GJ will be joining the Baltimore Ravens now.

Here we go.

Congratulations, CJ GJ.

Hey, he's with the Houston Texans earlier in the year.

Gets cut.

We hear nothing about it.

We thought we'd hear a story.

Nothing really came out.

Just kind of CJ GJ's gone now.

He was just playing.

He was a starter for him.

Now he's gone.

Well, what happened?

He talked shit to Baker, pissed him off, and then they came back and won.

So we cut him.

Yeah, I don't like it so damn.

Okay.

Well, didn't you know that was going to happen when you were signing CJ?

In a scouting report, did it not say, hey, CJ GJ,

going to stir it up a little bit?

Is that good for Baltimore?

I mean, we're talking about Baltimore.

They might need that personality.

Legit.

Bring a little swagger in there, bring a little shit talk, and let's get back to Ravens football.

AJ, how do you feel about it?

I see you nodding yes along with this story.

Yeah.

I mean, like you said, there's no financial impact.

He's getting paid by the Texans.

They got to do something to wake him up.

You got to do something to get some kind of juice, bring some kind of energy.

And we know CJ GJ, he's not going to go in there and just be a, what do you call it, like whatever, a wallflower and hang out.

He's going to go out there and let his presence be known.

So maybe that's what they need back there.

So

the Jacksonville Jaguars,

you know, made Chris Jones quit because they're relentless.

They're 4-1.

They're tied for a lead in the AFC.

Houston Texans move on from CJ GJ, blow out two teams in a row.

Okay.

Houston Texans all of a sudden juggernaut yet again.

Tennessee Titans don't look now.

They just caused another team to have the worst loss in the history of sports is what people are saying, including a doop-ty-dooty.

woody woody kicking of a ball touchdown that's out of a movie you know that doesn't normally happen Player dropping a ball, I might cause coach to punch a guy.

And he did.

And now they're going to talk about it.

And then you talk about the last team in the AFC South, the final BS or no BS.

This is coming from the greatest division in all of the NFL right now.

Culture best team in the NFL.

Is that BS or no BS, BA?

That is no BS.

When you look at Port Chip Real Plus 74, I mean, they're one player away from 5-0.

Yeah.

Then the difference would be higher.

I mean, Detroit is close.

They're a plus 62.

And

that would be a great game right now.

Detroit, Detroit.

Indeed, it'd be a hell of a game right now.

Maybe it'll happen later in the year.

Well, I like the fact that you're saying the Colts are the best team in the NFL.

It seems like a lot more people are coming around to this conversation.

Because all of a sudden, we're after week five.

We have no more undefeateds.

We only have teams that have one blemish on them.

Oh, how many of them?

Oh, three in the entire AFC.

Remember how packed out the AFC is?

Remember how great every team is going in this season?

The Colts have no chance.

What are we talking about?

They're fans.

I don't know if they're fans, actually.

The people that are active representing the Colts on the internet did an athletic poll.

94% negative optimism coming into the into the season.

They got Danny Dimes starting there.

That sky sucks, has sucked, always will suck.

And all of a sudden, what we got?

We got a big, strong, fast team.

Like our team is big.

Our team is strong.

And our team is fast.

That is, that is just, that moves, that travels, that wins games.

And we got a quarterback that can make the throw, that is going to have to make the throw.

He doesn't have bad balls.

Like you watch him play the game.

We're there watching every single snap, literally.

Tyler Warren, obviously, an incredible weapon, always in his eyesight, always in his vision, which is good.

But every throw that he makes is a good throw.

And it's like even his incompletions are either good decisions or good throwaways, or, you know, in an area that could have definitely been caught, it was just dropped.

He's not like missing guys.

There's not a bad decision coming.

It's like everything he's doing is right at the position that we need it to be.

But it's not just him.

He has ignited everybody else and elevated everything else that we have.

The Colts are in a good position.

I think we can win playoff games too with the way we're built right now.

Oh, there's no doubt.

Just got to stay healthy.

I mean, that big thing for all these teams right now, it's just October.

There's a long way to go.

And staying healthy is huge.

That offensive line, if they can keep them together, Danny Dimes is...

Indiana Jones is going to be really good.

I like that.

Indiana Jones, obviously, an absolute dog.

AJ, your thoughts on this Colts team?

Because you've even come around, which he was not about for a long time.

AJ used to laugh at the Colts.

Oh, yeah.

Every week, Colts would be getting flushed.

I think I wasn't the only one.

I was not the only one.

There's been some times, even, you know, when things weren't as great.

Chris Boward's got to be feeling pretty good right now, doesn't he?

I mean, people were killing him last year.

We know that.

But I'm with you, and it starts up front, like B.A.

mentioned it.

Watch a lot of those highlights and clips.

He's throwing from a nice clean pocket usually.

And if he does get flushed, we know that he is athletic enough to move around and keep his eyes downfield and find these great targets.

Like having Tyler Warren.

I mean, come on now.

That guy is such a freak.

But you're right, Pat.

It builds

everyone else around him up.

Like imagine some of those guys that have been there for a little while on offense thinking like, wow, I can really put up some numbers.

We can be an explosive offense.

And they've truly shown that through what, five weeks now?

Quentin Nelson has to be so happy.

You know, those offensive linemen that have been through it here.

Been through it.

Yes.

Big time.

Being through a lot.

Hey, go out there, hand-to-hand combat, run your face into somebody for who?

New quarterback.

Okay, does that guy even know the place?

No, but you got to, is this what my NFL career is going to be?

Like, Quentin Nelson drafted top 10 as a guard.

And all it has been is just like a turnover of quarterbacks, new system, new quarterback, new bummer, new disappointment, new loss, new way of doing it.

And then all of a sudden, now he is a vocal leader on the team, and they got a quarterback that can do everything that Shane Steichen wants to do.

It's fun to watch.

And then on the defensive side of the ball, Lou Annarumo, I got to talk to Carly Ursa.

I think I talked about this yesterday a good bit, but she's like, I chart the play calls for offense and defense.

What she does, just to try to catch a rhythm, try to learn what it is, see what's going on, because she's going to have to hire people, she said, going forward.

So I'd like to know what the hell's going on as opposed to not knowing what's going on.

And she's like, lose defense.

There's a lot more.

Like, there's a lot more options for the players.

You can't just do that with any group, right?

Like, we talked to Steve Spagnolo a couple years ago, whenever they're going through their Super Bowl run and defense was carrying him.

He's defense coordinator for the Chiefs.

He's a GOAT.

He'll be in the Hall of Fame.

All three coordinators for the Chiefs will go in the Hall of Fame.

Defense coordinator certainly would do that.

And he said, normally you have like one or two guys that are kind of like, I guess, on defense side, a middle linebacker or quarterback on the field.

He said all 11 guys.

are like very high football IQ guys.

So they can do a lot more.

You can make a lot more checks.

You can change, I think, coverages on the fly.

You can change fronts.

I think Lou Annarumo expects our guys to do that as soon as he got here.

And we've invested in the pieces on the defensive side.

So Danny Dimes, a big storyline on the offense.

Lou Anarumo coming in defense and the money we put in, seems like we got the right guys over there, too.

What is Lou's defense like?

And what does it mean whenever they say the ad checks and shit like that, whenever you're an offensive coordinator looking at that type of defense?

Yeah, they're very sound.

I mean, and it's like

Debuts always says, 11 playing together.

They're 11 playing together, but they added some good leadership.

Bynum, some of those guys, great pickups for Chris Ballard, just class guys who are extremely bright guys, but can still play the game.

And they're fun to watch.

What does that mean whenever they talk about the added elements of that shit?

The biggest advantage when having smart players that communicate is because as a defensive play caller, the only thing you have available to you is, you know, the personnel that's in the huddle, you know,

where the ball is on the field, and then the field position.

So your players, once they come out, once you get a formation, now the players, that's when the pros start to make those adjustments.

Hey, alert, 11.

You know, that may be the gadget guy, a reverse guy, or this is a speed guy.

Hey, speed at three.

And then you adjust whatever call is sent in by that defense.

So you become an extension of that defensive coordinator, and you can almost massage that coverage or that play call i'm sure aj had to do this a ton to put your players in a better situation so let's say we got a slot blitz on for me i'm a nickel blitzer but now we got tyreek hill in a position that's going to put you know aj in a position to cover tyree I look at AJ,

he'll look at me.

You know what I mean?

Exactly.

Exactly.

Or he'll be the, hey, D-But, Debut.

You know, and it'll just be an automatic switch.

And we're not thinking if it's young players or maybe players that just kind of don't have it, then you kind of just start, hey, the coach called it.

We're just going to play it.

So that's when players can kind of bail their coaches out in a sense.

Like the coach is making a good call, but now as a player, it's our job to be pros as well to find better answers because we got more information.

So that's the biggest advantage, biggest difference.

That's why Belichick was so good so many years.

And he has certain staples of those defense, whether it was Will Fort, whether it was McCordy, Chung, like those guys, obviously Bruce Kimo, to make those extra communications post-breaking the huddle that kind of of puts you in like advantageous situations as a defender.

AJ, so those play calls, you've been through a couple of different defense coordinators at the NFL level and obviously the game change as well.

Is he adding checks to

you whenever he's handling those in there?

And

is that the similar to what the offense is doing as well?

Like, what are you hearing?

We heard Chase Daniel.

There's a lot of info he was giving.

A lot of info coming at a lot of time.

I've never had that helmet, so I have no idea what's happening.

Not like that.

Well, the defense helmet never really had that much.

Yeah.

Yeah, but it was defense.

It's different.

Yeah, but you're making obviously close right, close left.

That's happening.

And then all the other little discussions or decisions that are being made, it comes from a high football IQ group, or is it a lot of like install that this is happening?

It's all of it.

It's all the walkthroughs.

And I think when young players realize early on, like sometimes people view walkthrough and stuff as like a punishment.

Oh, I got to get through this.

Like, no, man, we're doing this right now so we can pick it up when we're doing this walkthrough pace, when it's super slow.

and we're going through all the checks.

So when we get out of the practice field, we don't look stupid when they run this against us and we want to make sure we have it all so then we're ready in the game.

You do that all week leading up to the game.

But D-Butt highlights it perfectly.

Like players can cover up.

Like, what do offenses want to do?

They want to get matchups.

So they're thinking, all right, say Tyreek Hill is in the slot.

I'm supposed to carry this dude now because D-Butt splits it now.

Here we go.

Let's check out of this.

And you always can't do that.

Like some teams, say you got a new guy, inexperience.

You try to do that at the snap or right before the snap and you're both not on the same page.

Boom.

That's how you get guys running free that shouldn't ever happen in the NFL.

So the fact that you could do that, and the more game reps you get at that, you gain, it builds your confidence too.

Like, you're like, hey, man, like they can throw whatever they want at us on offense.

We have answers to everything that they have, that they're going to throw at us.

And I think with Lou Anaromo and great D coordinators, they give you that confidence to make those checks in-game, I guess.

So offensively, we're only five games into Danny Dime Shane stying experience.

He's already checking and seeing everything.

And defensively, we're only five games into the Lou Antarumo defense.

Boys,

there is a new sheriff back in town.

Okay, that is all everybody needs to know.

But also, congrats to the boys.

They've had to work really hard.

This has been a shite show a little bit here in Indianapolis.

So them being able to turn around is much better than where we were beforehand.

I appreciate you boys breaking down that defense.

Now, let's break down a sport that's also having massive moments that maybe we don't all get to follow along with because NFL football is happening, you know, which we can't be doing that Thursday nights and Monday night.

But ladies and gentlemen, baseball is in the middle of their playoffs, and it has been spectacular.

Ty, what did we miss?

Yeah, it has been spectacular.

Obviously, tough when you have an unbelievable Monday night football game like that, but two great playoff baseball games last night start in the NLDS with the Phillies and the Dodgers.

Pitching duel all the way until the seventh, and this is when you just know it's not your night.

Kika Hernandez breaks his bat, but still Tay Oscar Hernandez beats the throw and the Dodgers go up 1-0 and then Will Smith put a quarter in the merry-go-round.

He loops one into left center.

Dodgers score two more runs to go up 3-0 and then Shohei to top it off.

Lines one up the middle and the Dodgers score another run to take a 4-0 lead.

And then we're going to go to the bottom of the ninth.

Nick Cassianos, 4-0, loops one into left field, scores two runs for the Phillies, 4-2.

They got a little bit of life here.

A little bit of life, or 4-3, excuse me.

So they're down one run.

Bryson Stott with no outs tries to bunt Castellanos over in the Cardinals in.

You cannot make really any out at third base in this situation.

Trey Turner lines one up the middle, and boy, does Freddie Freeman save Tommy Edmonds' ass.

He scoops the ball there, and that is a final.

The Dodgers go on to win 4-3 and take a 2-0 lead over the Phillies.

Just, that was an unbelievable game.

Like I said, it was a pitching duel throughout.

But, you know,

the Dodgers are inevitable, unfortunately.

That's kind of just the way it goes.

And then in the NL, we just said the other day, the Brewers kind of nickel and dime people.

They just hit singles and singles and singles and score runs.

Not last night.

Shoto Imanaga in the bottom of the first inning.

Andrew Vaughan, I'm pretty sure this may have hit the International Space Station or the Hubble Telescope.

He hits this

so high, so high.

Three-run homer to tie the game

and electric environment there.

And then in the bottom of the third, boom,

Wilson Contreras, he may have hit this ball a thousand feet.

I mean, that was just a mistake by Imanaga.

The Brewers take a 4-3 lead.

And then lastly, we'll move on to the bottom of the third.

Jackson Churio.

He's only 21 years old.

This guy is a postseason phenom.

Almost gets robbed.

Just kidding.

That is way out.

Three-run homer to center.

And that's all the Brewers would need.

They win 7-3 over the Cubs and take a 2-0 lead over the cubs joining us now ladies and gentlemen is the man who manages that brewers team that hit ding-dong after ding-dong last night i believe he was uh named coach of the year for baseball he also won into the irish american baseball hall of fame go away ladies and gentlemen living legend in the baseball world manager for the brewers pat murphy

Slancha coach, how you doing?

Great, thanks.

Thank you for joining us.

Big night last night for the the boys.

Hey, I got a chance to meet a couple of your guys, Miz and McGill at the home run derby.

Their vibes were immaculate.

I think that's a big part of your team.

Best record in baseball this year.

The vibes in the

clubhouse great with this team?

Is this a very tight team, and can you feel that?

Yeah, it's a great bunch of guys.

You know, nobody expected them.

Nobody predicted us to be over 500.

You know, we didn't sign a lot of free agents.

We didn't sign any really, but, you know, we didn't do a lot of the trade deadline.

People just didn't expect us to be in this position, but it's because of the guys in the room.

They care about each other.

It sounds corny, but it's real.

And we have a team.

Tell me about Miz a little bit, okay?

Because obviously last night, I think he had like 30 pitches over 100 miles an hour.

I forget what it was.

It was an astronomical number.

It was the most amount of pitches over 100 miles an hour in an outing in forever or something like that.

The records now with how fast guys are throwing the ball are seemingly being broken every single night in baseball, which I think is a good thing.

But whenever I got to see him, it was at the all-star break, and there was a lot of people pissed off that he was an all-star because he only had five starts or whatever it was.

And his mindset was,

he didn't care.

I'm at the all-star game.

I don't really care at all.

It was an incredible, like old-school type leadership type vibe from him whenever he's talking about ball.

What have you seen from him in his young career?

And 104 or whatever, I think it's 104.8.

Call it 105.

105.

Is he only going to throw fat?

Are we going to get 110 from this guy at some point?

Or what do we see from him?

And what are your thoughts on him and his young career thus far?

Well, Pat, he gets a lot of attention as a young player, and that's a blessing and a curse.

You know, he's done some really good things for us.

The miles per hour thing

in the baseball world,

it's not as important as we make it out to be.

It's just, it's kind of an enigma that people kind of say, wow, you know, like 103, 104.

These players can time up anything if they know what's coming.

But when they haven't seen a guy and they haven't seen his delivery, that type of thing, it can be thing.

But the thing we got to have Miz do is throw strikes.

He's got to mature.

He's a great kid.

We call him Forrest Gump.

You know, he's kind of doesn't know what's happening to himself.

He's got a lot to learn.

He did a great job for us last night.

He's been through the ups and downs.

He gets a lot of attention because of that miles per hour thing.

And there's a lot more to our team than Miz.

No disrespect to him at all, but even he's uncomfortable with it, I think.

Agreed.

But I'll tell you what, you see 104.8, it's hard not to go, holy fuck,

that is really fair.

It's hard not to.

You know, it's hard not to do that.

But it seems like your team, everybody was pawning off kind of credit to everybody else, which is good culture, obviously.

Go ahead, AJ.

Yeah, Coach, speaking of that culture, you as a coach, as a manager, we talk about coaches all the time in the NFL that seem like, hey, like they're on the verge of a heart attack at all times because there's so much pressure on them.

And winning is almost a relief and not fun.

Like, how are you able?

Like, you look like you're having fun.

It definitely feels like I think it trickles down through your team.

Like, have you always been that type of manager?

Or was there ever a time you weren't?

Well, I mean, you grow.

You're all under construction, right?

You're always growing.

You're always changing.

You know,

people who know me close know that I like to have a good time.

I like to mess around.

It's the only way I can exist.

As a manager, I come off real intense and real,

you know, whatever, but we're not all that important, to be honest with you.

You know, you get a good group and you set the standards high and the right players

stand for the right stuff.

You got a chance to have a good team.

And our game, it's kind of complex.

I'm a football person

by nature, and I think that kind of helps you in our game once in a while, but not too much, but

it helps you.

But

yeah, I mean, I think it's about having the right guys.

I think our role in this whole thing is a little bit overrated.

Yeah, that's what a great leader would say.

And just like we just said about Mays and everybody else, we're deflecting.

We're deflecting.

Hey, you matter, bud.

That's why you're in the Irish American Baseball Hall of Fame.

Amen.

Okay, and because you're in the Irish Baseball American Hall of Fame, we know you like to have a good time.

Okay, so we just naturally understand who you are, but I appreciate your leadership style, especially because it's working.

Go ahead, Ty.

Yeah, Pat, how important is it once you get into the postseason to be able to win in a multitude of ways?

Because we've seen, you know, with how great the pitching has been this postseason, you get a team like a Yankees.

You just, you can't out slug everyone.

You've got to be able to put runners on and move them over and be okay winning 2-1 games.

And you guys are obviously great at that, but then you have a game like last night where if you need to out-slug someone, you can.

You can go out and hit three homers.

How important is that come

postseason?

And how much confidence does that give you?

every single night when you guys go to play.

Yeah, I mean, that's the thing.

And it's similar to football, right?

Like, you got to be able to beat teams in different ways.

If you just, you throw the ball, you open up everything, and that's all you can do.

Well,

that could be problematic, too.

You got to be able to stop the run.

You got to be able to rush the passer.

You got to be able to special teams, you know,

got to be able to do some things.

No ball.

Hey, we know ball over there.

Maybe the Irish American Football Hall of Fame next.

Hell yeah.

Probably could have been, to be honest with you, but we'll say that for another time.

Anyway,

yeah, no, I think that it's true in every sport, right?

You got to be able to beat people in more than one way.

And we've got a group of guys that we call them cliffhangers, you know, guys that don't know if their locker is going to be there when they get back after the game.

They've been up and down from AAA.

They've been DFA'd.

They've been through it.

The game has humbled them at times.

And those are the type players that are hungry.

And again, hungry players can do a lot of things.

Yeah,

we're seeing that in college ball with a lot of the transfer portal guys, guys that have been kind of overlooked, all coming together on teams and doing a great job.

I like to hear that that mentality is kind of transferring into baseball as well at this moment, especially with you guys.

Everybody's hunting you right now.

Go ahead, Con man.

Yeah, Skip, during the season this year, was there a moment where you realized, like, oh, okay, we got a special group here.

You know, the vibes in here are different.

Everyone is getting along.

And also, you know, we're slapping the ball the other way whenever we want.

Is this kind of a feeling you have where this feels as though you're about to go on a very historic and magical run?

Well, I mean, you know, we had a special group last year,

and we won the league by 10 games.

Again, unexpected.

People were calling it going to be a rebuild, and the team just performed.

And then we got knocked off in the first round in a dramatic fashion.

And I think they remember that.

And then coming back this year, we lost...

two of our great players and didn't really replace them with that much of people that people would know, but we replaced them with people that are are the right people.

And then

the season got off to a slow start.

We were 0-4.

People were really worried about us.

And then we've just kind of, there was a spot.

There was a spot in Pittsburgh.

We're on the road.

It's a dreary day.

There's 350 people in the stands.

We're down in the game.

And we've got like three or four at-bats in a row.

0-2 count to base hit.

0-2 count to ball four.

0-2 count double in the corner, 0-2 count, double in the corner.

And I'm like, now that's the edge we're talking about.

You know, like using every pitch and staying on it.

That was pretty special.

So that kind of opened the door.

And baseball's a long season, man.

It's a long season.

Yeah, it is.

It is.

I don't know how you guys do it, to be honest.

Yeah, it's

kind of the spot I felt like things kind of started to turn.

Coach, I just read, we should have looked this up earlier.

Murphy served as the head baseball coach and assistant football coach for the Maryville College Fighting Scots in 1983.

1983.

82 and 83.

And then Claremont College, I was football baseball too.

And I had aspirations going on to coach college football.

When I got to Notre Dame, Coach Holtz was so great.

Barry Alvarez was there.

They became great friends.

And they knew kind of my mentality of like,

I love this stuff.

I'd sit in meetings.

So, MacPhe, I got a punt play that I want to know if you know about.

Okay, great.

So, they snap it to you,

okay?

And you, instead of kicking it, you throw a spiral straight down the field.

Okay.

Your outside men, the returner has no idea you've thrown it.

He thinks you've kicked it.

Your outside people go down.

It's called your gunners, right?

Yep.

They go down and they run under it and either catch it or run into the guy going to receive it.

Even if he fair catches, they run in because if it's really high, you throw it really high, they're going to fair catch it.

You have your guy just try to catch it or run into that guy, pass interference, and we're rolling.

Have you ever done this?

Have you ever heard of it?

So there's no pass interference on punt plays.

I have heard of it and thought of it.

Shane Leckler.

It's not a punt play.

It's throw.

It's a pass.

Yeah, but it's a punt formation.

So Shane Leckler actually did this a couple times where he would crow hop low and then throw it.

And they would try to steal it down down to a gunner, though.

They would throw it towards a gunner and hope that the people that were blocking him didn't think it, especially in the pooch territory because corners bail on gunners in the pooch area.

So I think what you're saying might innovate and change the game.

That might change the entire game.

And also, no, you win a World Series right now.

Still got time to come coach of football.

Exactly.

Still got time over here in the football world.

We appreciate you joining us.

We thank you for the time.

Good luck the rest of the way, and we can't wait to chat with you soon.

Thanks, man.

Not a bad idea there.

Ladies and gentlemen,

Irish American Baseball Hall of Famer, Coach of the Year.

Amber.

Yay!

Skip.

It's not a bad idea.

So pump formation, even if it's a throw.

No.

Didn't you?

No, Passer Francis.

That's wild.

I didn't know that.

Yeah, me neither.

Yeah, because the jammers,

it would be.

Yeah, PI every time.

The whole time, basically.

I think they got rid of it, yeah.

But if not, we should back shoulder every fucking.

All right, we'll see you tomorrow.

Goodbye.

Nailed it.

Nailed it.

Yep.

Nailed it the entire thing.

Oh, he wants to say, so hold on, he's still on.

Pat, sorry, we had a hard out there.

I had to get out of there.

No, I got to clarify this because I gave this play to Skip Holtz, and he ran it at Connecticut, and they won.

They scored on the third

and 19.

And this has got to be 2000 and

whenever Skip was at Connecticut.

And I used to draw it up for Holtz, and Holtz would be like, God damn it, Murphy, if we got to play the University of Air Force and beat him with the punt play, we're in trouble.

Perfect.

That's a good thing to have in a back pocket, though, Coach.

That's all I'm saying.

Oh, that's genus.

But I didn't understand.

If he fair catches it, if he calls for a fair catch and I run into him.

But it's a thrown ball.

Why wouldn't it be interference?

So I think, so at that time, I mean, this might be, I might be completely wrong, but I think they have gotten to the point where there's no pass interference on punt formation plays.

I think, like, when they ran it, then they might have still had it, but I think they've gotten to the point.

And it's mostly because what guys used to do to gunners, guys would throw it to gunners, right?

And there would always be

pushed, right?

Yeah, some sort of thing.

So if you just get it in the area, it's like a PI.

So I think they got it rid of it.

But I love that you're thinking of ideas for punters to shine.

Let's definitely keep that going.

One last thing.

Garrett Green, West Virginia quarterback the last three years, his father is

one of my staff members here with the Brewers, Charlie.

And Charlie, I signed Charlie to come to Notre Dame in 1988.

Now he's on my staff in the big leagues.

There you go.

And his son, Garrett, quarterback of West Virginia for two or three years, is now with Tampa Band, the practice roster.

Yeah, Garrett.

And

he's went from quarterback to gunner, returning punts, all that kind of shit.

So it's pretty special.

We pull for him.

Gigi ran wild all over for West Virginia.

We're very appreciative of him.

You talk about having his dad and now he's on your staff.

That happened with counsel, right?

Isn't this like a massive piece of the entire storyline of this particular series, right?

Isn't it?

How is that happening?

I coached him at Notre Dame for four years.

He hated me, wanted to kill me.

But then we just kept, we kept talking when he got into Pro Ball.

And then when he got the job with the Brewers, I was with the Padres and he brought me over.

And I was his bench coach for eight years.

And, you know, I was supposed to be mentoring him.

But to be honest with you, he taught me a lot about, you know, it's like going from college football to the NFL.

It's like totally fucking different.

And

Counts was really, I was supposed to be mentoring him, but the truth was, he mentored me on,

you know, the major league game.

That's amazing.

Well, good luck to you, Coach.

We appreciate the hell out of you.

And hey, any more ideas for the punters?

Let's send those.

Yeah.

Yeah, let's send those.

You're the man.

Pat Murphy, push me.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That guy's awesome.

They're special.

Holy fuck.

You're a special team.

Now, I definitely knew of

the Irish American Baseball Hall of Fame inductee.

Yeah.

Coach of the year.

Sorry, manager of the year, Pat Murphy.

I knew of his existence.

Pancakes in the back pocket.

I believe Trisha Whitaker, Indiana university grad, former Indianapolis sports reporter.

She does a lot with MLB and she does a lot in the baseball world.

She did an interview with him.

This guy pulled a fucking pancake out of his back pocket.

Here he just, yep, after game, middle game.

There's pancake, right?

Thank you very much, John.

They're wonderful.

You want some?

He's a gentle giant, obviously, offers uploads.

Wow, those are delicious.

Pizza, bagels, what else do you keep in your pocket?

Whatever fits.

Whatever fits.

There you go.

You heard it here from Pat Murphy first.

So I've seen, I've know of Pat Murphy.

God, it was great talking to him.

Baseball guy through.

He feels like a BA of baseball right there, like a lifer.

What were your thoughts on him?

Oh, he's awesome, man.

And just watching his journey, you're pulling for guys like that, man.

I'm hoping they win it all.

25-year collegiate coaching career.

Hall of Famer in there, I think.

Considered legend.

Oh, yeah.

And then comes over to the majors now.

And he's got the team with the best record in the entire league.

I mean,

you talk about.

them being able to win a multitude of ways and then he just starts breaking down.

Yeah, dip shit.

You got to be able to win in different ways that's real though because like teams like uh i mean like the dodgers their lineup is so good but like you look at like the phillies and the yankees like they can do things multiple ways but like with how much money they've spent on guys their objective is hey we're going to get guys on base with walks we're going to hit homers and we're going to basically just pound you into submission we're going to try to you know put like a put a crooked number up on the scoreboard early and then you're basically just you know it's very hard to beat a team when they just jump on you early like that especially in the playoffs because it throws your entire plan off like all these guys have plans going into the games maybe we want the starter to go five innings or six innings and then we can get to our horses in the bullpen so like some of these teams who play like that that's the whole objective is like hey if we score seven runs in the second inning that fucks up their entire plan and then it's kind of just like well yeah if we can hit seven home runs that's no i'm saying seven runs off like you maybe hit two homers like what they did last night They hit three homers, but they scored seven runs.

But you all year have been talking about the Yankees.

Like, we hit bombs.

And for me,

I don't know a lot about baseball, but what?

All you think is a couple games not doing that.

And all of a sudden, that is

NCA basketball.

Guys get in the tournament, a team's a three-point shooting team, and they have one off night, and they get upset.

West Virginia, Pat Beline, Kevin Pittsnoggle, and the boys.

That entire run.

Baseball is a series, I guess, that that protects against.

It's at least three, five games.

Yeah, you assume that at some point it'll come in.

But like the Yankees led the majors in homers this year.

And because they have like a short porch in right field, like that is part of the makeup of their team.

It's like, hey, we have this kind of advantage here.

Let's get some big lefty bats and take advantage of that because not everyone plays with that type of situation.

It's like Otonius Warburg being a leadoff hitter.

Exactly.

With 50-plus home runs.

Yeah.

They're trying to hit bump.

We're putting you under

right now.

I appreciate that aggressive mentality, but what?

It takes one bad night.

But you're hoping that four of your guys don't have bad nights on the same night.

Yeah, exactly.

You just assume, hey, someone will pick somebody up here.

If we can just get one person on base, and then it might not be a homer, but like these teams that slug, it might be a double into the gap or whatever the case may be.

And the brewers are just getting, go one.

Well, you heard what he said.

He was like, you know, a lot of times we're out there when he kind of noticed it was special.

It was like, we get a single and then we get down, someone is down 0-2 in a count, and they work a walk, and then the next guy hits a single, and then another guy's down 0-2, and then they hit a double, and now, boom, we've scored two runs, and it's just like you're making that pitcher work so hard and then on top of it like he mentioned it and we talked to the guy like

a lot of guys throw hard there aren't a lot of guys throwing 105 and who have a fucking wipeout slider like jacob miserowski does like it's just if that guy's on he's he's damn near unhittable i like you said yeah the number is certainly something but anybody can square that up so at this age that was that's kind of we need him to throw strikes that's my whole point about shohe is like look how many guys are throwing 100 like everyone throws 100 So it's like he's maybe, he's like a top 30 pitcher, top 20 pitcher in the majors, but he's focusing on that and he strikes out four times at the plate.

Like it kind of just, it's astonishing how many of these guys are throwing 101, 102 every fucking pitch.

It's crazy.

Yeah.

And then the junk that comes alongside of it, you know, Paul Skeens is still adding pitches.

Yeah.

He's still adding pitches.

Miz, this guy had five starts for the all-star break.

Adding pitches.

Yeah.

He started, I think, he did the single A, double A, triple a he was on buses oh yeah i think he did the whole baseball professional baseball gimmick to get to where he was because that's what he said he's wild he throws hard and it's very scary as a hitter facing a guy who you don't know if he's gonna throw 105 right down the middle or it's gonna hit you in the fucking head like that i don't like that i don't mind a little i don't mind a little oh is this guy gonna

efficiently wild efficiently wild yeah that's not a bad way to be described there that's a little bit of an outlaw mentality up here on a mind certain

trevor Lawrence, let's get to a break on the other side.

We'll wrap up all the storylines we haven't chatted about.

And I think BA is going to make some putts today for you.

Hell yeah.

Ready.

Especially now you're 73.

It feels like this is the right year.

Definitely.

That was cool talking to him.

Yeah, he's the man.

So I'm just going to act like anytime baseball comes in a conversation when I'm not on air, I just can't wait to go.

So it's Pat Murphy.

You know,

Brewster.

If you don't have a team, too, like they're,

it's impossible not to love the Brewers because they don't have any massive stars.

They don't have a huge payroll.

They're in a small market and they're the best team in baseball.

Ladies and gentlemen, pick up the Brewers if you need one.

But also,

maybe that Toronto team.

We'll see.

They just beat the hell out of the game.

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Football.

That's AJ Hawk directly to my left.

That's Coach B.A.

That is nine-year NFL vet Darius J.

Butler celebrating the drop of the puck on another NFL season.

That's the talks at Table at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt.

And let's head over to Hammer.

Ton, Ton.

What happened with the goblin last night?

Congratulations to AJ Hawk.

AJ, AJ moves to 12 and 3, I believe, or 12, no,

10 and 3.

Yeah, because you were 9 and 4, right?

You lose 10 and 3.

12 and 3.

And boys have a good weekend.

Hey, AJ, that's incredible.

12 and 3.

It was an incredible weekend.

Did we beat the sports books?

Did the public beat, or did we lose again?

No, we lost again.

Come on, man.

Last night, 65% was on the Kansas City Chiefs.

I think that was to be expected, you know, because the Chiefs are the Chiefs in everyone's mind, and the Jags are the Jags in everyone's mind.

um even if you were on whatever side last night um and then i went back today and i looked and i because it was last week or sorry before this week before week five started um teams that you know were getting 60 or more of the public bet were 10 and 24 against the spread good news this week uh those teams went three and six uh against the spread so now we are now 13 and 30 against the spread uh when teams are getting 60% or more of the bet.

Okay, do we know that information while we're making the picks?

I know it's always like, hey, this is being reported from this sports book, this percentage, but don't know what the overall is.

I think there's some question marks on the percentage of money on what picks before the bet.

And then obviously we know immediately afterwards because all the final tally is kind of released.

Do we have that info going in?

And are we going to learn our fucking lesson, boys?

We need to start thinking about this.

I think generally we know, and to your point, like it'll someone will report like, uh here are the top five most bet on teams at esp and bet here are the top five most bet on teams at so-and-so

sometimes there's some differences but normally you know uh just like polls pat obviously uh there's they're generally correct um

but we yeah i know i was joking uh we are but yeah we definitely know more after the fact um because i definitely do question some of those numbers sometimes but also like we give out those numbers on a friday and most people uh do their betting Like if you're not a professional, most people aren't making their bets until like Sunday morning.

So a lot more stuff comes in then.

Yeah, so we need to be smarter.

Okay.

13 to 30.

What's so funny, D-Bud?

Because we won't be.

No, we need to be.

We won't.

We're locked in.

That's the other half of the hammer.

God.

Cowboys, Bubba Gampino.

And I don't want to hear it from you.

I'm about sick of hearing fucking Muppets

from some team doing something somewhere.

You know, me and Gumpy, it's fall college game day season.

So me and Gumpy traveling together, you know, Gumpy obviously and I spending time around each other.

And I'll tell you what, it's always a nice refresher whenever you're around somebody that is literally betting on every sport that is happening.

Even the Changhai Open.

Shanghai Open.

Yeah, yeah, I actually got Gump had a couple locks from the Wuhan Open, and he bet on the Spurs to beat Guangzhou in 119 to 88.

That's what I'm saying.

Wait, you say the Wuhan Open?

Yeah,

is it the Wuhan Open or Shanghai?

It's Wuhan.

Wuhan Open.

The women's Tennessee.

So are they saying like Wuhan back?

Because remember when Wuhan back.

Wuhan.

Back.

They thought it was over, but Wuhan back.

That was at the beginning of the recovery of the entire, we did it.

We beat COVID.

You remember those times?

Those are happening.

We celebrated that, what, 10 times we thought we beat it?

At least.

There'd be an email from a league saying, guess what?

We're packing a stadium this weekend.

And we're like, we beat it.

We started celebrating, and it turns out, nope, actually, this stadium over here is still doing a oh, there's another, what was it called whenever a bunch of them happened

wave, obviously, variant, variant was a game changer.

You guys thought,

yeah, right, dude.

Super dupa alphatron is coming through.

This one's like the OG 19 and then also has little shades of 17 and 18 as well.

So we celebrated a bunch in its entirety, but I think

think Wuhan Open is something that Gumpy would gamble on.

And being alongside Gumpy while he's going through all these bets and hearing about how good all the sports books are doing, it has been very entertaining.

Gumpy, Liverpool is not showing up for you, or is it the Inter-Miami Boys?

Or is it Barcelona or Real Madrid?

I forget who it was.

He has a couple go-tos that always show up for him.

They haven't been showing up because they're a bunch of fucking knobs going out.

No.

Liverpool's lost three straight.

It's not good, but we're on an international break now for two weeks.

So it's nothing but football.

You know what's great?

You know what's great, Pat?

Because you're obviously with him a lot during these.

I also am as well.

When Gum's put in a bet, puts in a bet, he's 100,000% correct.

He knows that bet is going to hit.

That man has never wishy-washied one time.

Not one time.

And then as it's happening, obviously, he made the right decision.

These fucking Muppets.

Just the anger that comes from a notification.

refs, man.

A notification pops up on his phone.

Okay, we're flying.

We have spotty Wi-Fi.

Spotty, Spotty Wi-Fi.

5 a.m.

in the morning.

Spotty Wi-Fi.

Spotty Wi-Fi.

And we're just flying.

And then all of a sudden, notifications will pop up on phone.

And he has notifications set for every app in his phone.

I think I've never seen this many.

They all show up at the same time.

He's swiping through them.

And all you'll see is fuck.

Then just a couple more.

And then the the Muppet or Nob.

I forget, there was one that he was running with there for a while.

It was unbelievable.

Gumpy, you're going to get him, bud.

Yep.

Eric Golden.

John last night.

Trevor Lawrence, Mahomes, in the paint.

We're back.

We're in the green.

Oh, yeah.

You were jagging off.

A lot of people were saying.

Yeah, you were.

I certainly were.

All right.

We'll beat them.

We will beat the sports books.

You know, there's a couple things about this Chiefs team that are a little bit alarming, especially if you go back to when they were dominating everybody.

They actually set NFL record for the amount of close games won in a season.

Okay.

John Ewing put out a tweet that kind of went on a run.

It said, Chiefs in one score games, 11-0, that was last year, and then 0-3 this year.

They're not the only ones.

Minnesota Vikings won 11-0 a couple years back in one score games.

And then the next year, we're not good in one-score games.

And Hembo, whenever he delivered said stat, because those are NFL records, by the way, 11-1-score victories is the most.

They are tied.

Wow.

so they were able to do that and obviously that becomes the identity of the team hey in these close games they're able to win it they're able to win it they're able to win it we thought that about the vikings and we carried that over into next year and do you remember we were losing a lot of bets on a lot of close games because they were when you talk about being able to win close games is that a skill is that a is that a trait that a team has and maybe some teams don't have like How do you view that as a coach?

And do you know if your team has the ability to win these close games?

Like, how is the change for the Chiefs go from 11-0 to 0-3?

And the Vikings, how are they able to do 11 and then not so many?

Why do you think as a coach that happens?

And when do you know if your team is a team that can win those ones?

You would know by now.

Each year is so different.

Your teams change.

Your defensive guys change.

You lose some guys to free agents.

You bring some guys in.

You don't know how they're going to act in that last two minutes.

I know I've been on the sideline where...

Super Bowl 43,

we're going to win this.

Ben's going to take us down the field and win.

We got to go 92 yards.

No panic.

You know, when your guys are on the sidelines, like, we got it.

Right now, the Bucs have it.

You know,

I think they're differential.

It's like plus three, plus six, something.

And they're four and one.

But because if there's time on the clock, Baker's going to win the game.

So they have that belief right now.

And it starts to permeate through your whole locker room.

So is it a belief of confidence?

It is totally a belief in a confidence.

Can you coach it?

Like, can it create it if it takes a second?

I think you put your guys in enough situations in training camp in practice, especially in dual practices, in those situations that you get very comfortable.

And so much of it is on your quarterback and so much of it is on your defensive line.

All right.

Being able to get to the quarterback, for instance, the Browns winning that game.

You know, Carson was, he was clean.

He was clean that late.

Close it out.

Yeah, this is.

Hold on, he had to stay further.

Hey, we paid you all this money.

What are we doing?

When we need you in London.

And the Browns don't have that right now.

They don't have the belief they're going to win this game.

All right, it's obvious because they can't win them.

All right, sure.

But other teams just, it's nothing, man.

We got this.

D.

But, what are your thoughts?

Can you learn that through a season, or does the team have it going into the game?

I agree with everything Coach said.

As far as every win, it just stacks that confidence and beliefs.

And most of the time, the games come down to a two-minute drive, you know, whether it's the end-of-half or the end-of-game.

Whereas a defense, you know, the situation when that happened last night, most people didn't think when Trevor Lawrence, before the kick, two timeouts left, a minute 45.

If that was Patrick Mahomes getting involved, 90%, 5% of public be like, oh, they're going to go down and win.

Lifeback.

With Trevor Lawrence, it was probably the opposite.

I tweeted out, all right, can he answer?

Can he respond?

And he did.

But like now, going forward, when the Jaguars are in this situation again as a team, even as a defensive player, when you stand on that sideline, you have confidence in that offense.

And we do this shit.

Every team does it damn near every week, you know, whether it's Thursdays or whenever it is.

Hey, two-minute drill.

This is a situation.

One timeout, minute, five left on the clock, need a field goal, whatever that situation is.

So when you get in that, in the actual game situation, you're not really thinking.

You're just going through the different things you have.

And then coaches, when it comes to preparing these teams, one thing in New England that we always did was got to have it situation.

So whether it was like a 15-play script, like, okay, what does this team go to in their got to have it situation?

That could be two-point plays.

That could be, when I was playing fourth down, going forward on fourth down wasn't.

that big, but hey, it may be a fourth and two or whatever.

Okay, they're like sprint right options.

They like this.

So what are the the things that they lean on?

Because most coaches, they're going to go back to their best shit when the moment is in the biggest, when it's in the biggest moment.

So it's preparation and then it's confidence that's built throughout that season.

How about whenever you're 11-0 and then 0-3?

Do you lose it?

Do you lose confidence, AJ?

Do you think they even doubt in themselves or they just run into other teams that were willing to do it to them as well?

I mean, I don't think a guy like Patrick Mahomes is losing confidence in what he is able to do, but maybe some guys around him are, I think, are standing around.

I don't know.

I can't speak for them, but I know in being places, like sometimes you're waiting on somebody else to make the play.

Like, when great teams that I've been on, you feel like, no, I'm going to go make this play.

If you're on defense, we want to end this game.

Like, we have, it's a belief and confidence, it truly is.

But it definitely starts with a quarterback.

You have to have a quarterback that's a stud that everyone says, hey, if we get this guy the ball, we know for sure he's going to take it down and score and get us this win.

You need to have a defense to where it's like, no, I'm not going to wait on somebody to make a play.

I'm going to go make that play.

And all 11 guys in that field are trying to be that dude and get off the field.

I think, shoot, last night when Jacksonville scored, there was like 30 seconds left.

Oh, shit, Mahomes going to take this down.

He's going to get a field goal.

It's like, that's going to happen.

And

the penalty before he even got took a snap.

Fucked him.

And that's why football is like the ultimate team game.

We always talk about complimentary football.

But as great as the quarterback is, if they don't get put in the right situation, starting on the 30 as opposed to starting on 13 is a huge difference.

Or the 40.

Yeah.

So let's talk about these kickoffs.

Let's talk about these kickoffs because you just mentioned it there with Trevor Lawrence and Jacksonville having to start at the 40 because kickoff out of bounds.

There's been multiple now.

Squibs hitting early, not landing in the landing zone and people getting the ball at the 40, kickoff out of bounds here, ball at the 40.

And then there's also been situations where they've pinned people because you have to kick it in there and that's shown up big for them.

This new kickoff, Okay, with the 35-yard line as the new touchback line in the landing zone, basically, it has forced teams to have to throw a strike like you have to throw a strike you have to put the ball over the plate and you have to go make a tackle so you're talking about third stringers guys that are just getting onto the team on Thursdays okay are gonna be making huge plays and if they just so happen to get a little little peaky this way and the guy next to them on the other side happens to get a little peaky this way that is a home run and this is exactly what the NFL was hoping the NFL was hoping the kickoff would become important again and there's numerous games now that we're thinking hey that ball lands before the landing zone.

That ball's at the 40.

With the way kickers are kicking balls right now, that's one first down, and we got a fucking field goal at least.

It's like the kickoff is now very important, very crucial at the end of games.

And you got to have a weapon kicking that ball.

You need some sort of coverage that can win a game for you, basically, at the end of NBA.

I think it's changed everything, the K-ball, especially, because the kickers, I mean, Aubrey's going to kick a 70-yarder.

You know, he's going to make it.

Case McLaughlin kicking a 65-yarder outside in Tampa Bay.

It's crazy.

But it's like

I would kick it out of the end zone.

No, shit.

They get it on the 35.

It's one completion.

He's going to kick the field going, tie the game or win the game.

Borealis up there in New England hit a 52-yard game winner that hit top of net.

That ball might have been.

Good from 85.

That might have been good from 70-plus yards for a game winner.

This is in Buffalo.

Now, granted, it's very warm and everything like that.

It's still warm in the year.

That's at the top of the net from 52 to win the game in Buffalo.

He's got long sleeves on, so KP2 hopping.

That's outside in this entire.

You talked about the new K-balls.

This is a huge win for kickers and punters here and snappers as well.

We chit-chatted about it whenever we learned about it because the special teams group of coordinators that have been tasked with both changing the kickoff to keep it in the game have also been presenting other rules, you know, that special teams has had.

That's like, hey, now that we got a little bit more trust in the league with like us creating things that maybe they think would be good for the game and understanding the way the special teams coordinator is like, hey, can we go back back to having K-balls, but we'll keep it, you know, it got a little crazy.

So those that don't know, the K-balls used to be brought by the teams and it got to a point where it was just abuse.

I mean, these ballers would show up like this.

I mean, this is what the ballers would show up so beat up.

They were actually putting them in like a dryer, like commercial dryers to like make them get blown up.

One thing led to another.

Guys were obviously murdering footballs.

One thing led to another where one of these shitty ass cables that was designed strictly to be kicked further and however they wanted to do that beat beat up got into an actual play quarterback throws a pick with it full investigation happens into the ball they go enough of this and then it was brand new balls fresh out of the box so it was like i hope you guys are happy this is what you got now the balls were in a box brought out opening kickoff good luck okay then kickers and punters got so pissed off about that because we're kicking blocks like plastic.

You're basically giving us plastic.

This is this is trash.

This is like the worst.

Why would we do this?

So then they gave a 30-minute time period for equipment managers to break in the ball with officials watching them.

This has been the development of the K-Ball rules through this entire thing.

So then there's seven of them in total.

Basically, the first three are the only ones that are going to see the field.

Normally, only the first two, depending upon what happens.

And the equipment managers would just beat those things up just for 30 minutes.

They'd come out sweating.

They'd have one brush.

There's one bottle of water, and that's all you were allowed to use.

Okay.

And it was watched and regulated.

And our guy, Frog, would come out sweating, just boy.

And we'd be like, How are they?

He'd be like, You're good.

like thanks man thank you so much for doing what you're doing and if there was a shitty equipment manager from the other team doing it we would even tell the other kickers and punters like hey our ball good if you want it or whatever and that you could like oh yeah you would help them out

you would help them out because we wouldn't want their guy their ball in ever so then we would just say hey we're only using ball one you guys agree with that yes so then they agree so we're only using ball one as opposed to rotating balls because if we heard that their guy sucked, like other teams would come up to us.

They'd be like, hey, our guy sucks.

It's like, sweet.

We'll do ball one.

And if we need emergency ball one, we'll go to ball three because if it was home, we'd have the odd numbers.

So then we as teams would go to person and say, hey, we're using this.

We're using this.

And it would agreement.

Ball two, then just back of the pile.

We're not even using it.

So it's like there was a little politicking going on as well.

And if you had a good equipment manager, it was fucking great news.

Now these guys are allowed to work them all week and then they bring them into games and they have to pass a test.

They still have to be in condition that is worthy of being on 8K television for the NFL right now.

So it's still got to be a good looking Duke.

But I mean, it's 10 to 15 yards.

10 to 15 yards, I would say, of distance between brand new ball versus very beat up ball.

And I put that tweet out and I saw it got a lot of traction, which was cool.

People are like, 10 to 15 yards is like, I mean, shit, depending upon what they're thinking, maybe 20 yards, 17 to 20 yards of it, let alone for punt how much hang time it's like a beat up ball is just so much better that's why quarterbacks bring their own balls in that's why baseballs i think whenever they get beat up are kind of subbed out or whatever it's like these things are leather and what you're trying to do is crack into them and hit the bladder and then that's exploding off there so the more beat up you can get the outside you can obviously get to the bladder that thing's gone it's like this is a big role change i think it's a big role change for kickers and that 52 yarder that went over the uprights for new England and then 65-yarder.

And then Aubrey goes strolling out there for 66 yarder.

It's like, this is going to only continue.

So the touchbacks at the 35 with the ability to kick these long balls, you know, there's a lot of strategy.

There's strategy going in there.

And special teams in the kickoff matters now even more than it's ever had.

And I think that's a success for the rulemakers.

Yeah, and for the fans, too, because I really do believe, especially when we look at this, like over the course of a year, like this rule yields more close games.

And if you're a fan of a team, like you have more hope going into one of these last drives.

It used to be, you know, like if your kicker was kind of so-so and you had like a 52-yarder, it's like, well, okay, we've got a 10% chance of making this.

Now it really does feel like, hey, we just got to get one completion.

And then we'll try our guy out there for a 65-yarder.

And McMahon will make it.

Exactly.

Exactly.

But then on the flip side, it is like, if you don't know how to execute that kickoff, like that, that's just killing teams because it is.

It's just like already,

if you have a quarterback who maybe you don't envision him as that guy who, like Bake, who he's going to go down the field and score, like you starting at the 40-yard line, like there's no room for error for your defense.

A lot of confidence going on the field when you get the ball to 42.

Oh, there's no doubt.

But, like you said,

that penalty on the kickoff against Kansas City, if they get the ball in the 31, Mahomes is getting it to the 50.

I guarantee you, and he's going to attempt 58, 59, probably make it and go to overtime.

Bucker, yeah.

Bucker's a real deal.

Oh, yeah.

There's a lot of those guys that are really good.

Yeah.

Spencer Schrader for the Colts made a lot of big kicks for us.

He tears a couple ligaments in his knee out for season.

The Colts have made a signing a kicker.

Michael Badgley.

The Money Badger.

The Money Badger.

He's back.

He'd been on the team before.

He was good for us.

He was good for us.

I think we had Hot Rod at the time.

Remember Hot Rod?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Where was his last stop?

Badgley.

Chargers, maybe?

Yeah, they charger.

I think the last time I saw him, he's got a lot of moxie.

I thought he was on a team already.

Me too.

I think he's one of these guys that hasn't had a good situation.

Like, you know, where when you become

a carousel kicker, you've worked out a lot of these guys.

You're not on a team,

but you're in a rotation of guys that get workouts basically anytime a kicker gets hurt or something like that.

And then you might get an opportunity for two, three weeks because the kicker's hurt or one week because the kicker's hurt.

Then you hope that that film's good enough that you get potentially signed somewhere else.

Very rarely do you get in there and then just take the job.

There's been a couple of those situations that have happened.

Inevitably, that happens for a lot of people.

But if you're not in the actual, it's hard to crack.

It's harder.

You need an injury and you need to get hot at the right time.

Because if you get in there as like a fill-in and you miss one, it's like,

see ya.

We can find another guy that can come in here and miss.

Anybody come in here and miss.

I got a question for both of y'all.

Like, what did he, so what's what do you think he's been doing, I guess, throughout the season to kind of stay in the type of kicking shape?

And then for BA, are we more likely to see now a lot more fourth down, a lot more four-down territory for the Colts once they kind of cross that midfield?

I think from what I remember, he's got a long, strong leg.

Yeah, he's good, I think.

So you trust him off the rip.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, for me,

that's the general manager and pro personnel.

They got five guys at every position on that board.

He's the best one.

We lose this guy, we're getting this guy.

And same thing with kickers.

So they got to have a ton of confidence in the guy.

I'm not changing a damn thing the way I coach coach or decide anything i hired your ass do your job

i love i love everything about that that that is awesome that is a very like yeah this is your job go make the fucking kick that is what we're here for well it's a new guy he hasn't been around the team we're on a good run right now number one team in the afc we literally just got this guy he was on the lions in 2024 we were just learning obviously uh might have been a fill-in for a little bit there with bates was hurt no he was fine and then they brought bates in uh into camp they had a battle bates won that thing and had a good year so uh he badgerly was completely fine with the lions when he was there and since then he's been just kicking yes odd man out yeah he's literally just kicking and waiting for another opportunity it's an interesting little that would be a cool documentary actually because there's a lot of camps that people go to like right now uh nick novak is former kicker he was a journeyman kicker he'd been on a lot of teams loves the art of kicking like still holds camps and everything he'll have a lot of free agent guys that he'll record working out and then he'll put them up there and you got guys from around the league watching these videos and they're like okay we'll put that guy on the board if we do this so like traveling going to these camps working out posting clips like that is literally what kickers you're hustling basically for your next opportunity at a tryout and then you just got to hope you get hot at the tryout and then you get an opportunity and then you get hot then and literally if all you need is like a couple people to see you do well and you'll get an opportunity and if you get an opportunity and you crush it it's like you can have a fucking job forever or you get right back in the carousel and have to wait for another opportunity it's an interesting probably not coming what's that when you fail

You're at the bottom of the carousel.

Yeah.

You're not riding the pony.

You're on that little thing at the bottom that doesn't move.

Did you go out and watch those workouts or no?

The kicking workout?

No, I just trusted the pro-personnel people.

Give me the best guy you got.

Who'd you have whenever you guys did your Super Bowl run?

Pro personnel?

No, kicker.

Who was kicker down there?

Or Ryan Soccer?

Yeah, I mean, in soccer.

He was great.

Oh, money, but 52 was it.

Maybe 49 into the win.

But we knew exactly, and he was honest as a coach.

I can't make that.

Which is a big piece of information.

All right, good.

We'll go for it.

He hit the same ball every time.

Yeah.

He was a robot.

We came out the same year.

He was Mr.

Relevant

with the Kansas City Chiefs, I do believe.

And watching him, just his stance and how he did it, he was just so consistent.

Same exact ball.

And to your point, it wasn't like super long ball, but it was just like knew exactly where it was going.

He was a good kickoff guy, too.

I think he was okay.

Yeah.

He had a long run-up, right, on the kickoff.

I think he had a little bit of a longer run-up.

Not as long as Jason Hansen.

Jason Hansen used to run 25 yards per year.

Legend.

That was unbelievable.

It was.

He went into the

Hall of Fame nominee.

Yes.

Yeah.

Okay.

Before the MCDC era and before Matthew Stafford and Calvin Johnson, Jason Hansen was the best lion of my lifetime.

And keep in mind, I didn't watch Barry Sanders.

So he was a monster.

I love Jason Hanson.

20 years I think he didn't.

He was awesome.

20 years he kicked up there in Detroit.

I don't think one playoff game, right?

Zero playoff games, which is insane.

But if you're a fan, you gotta see it.

Kicker's my favorite.

He was a lot of hats in your patriotic.

Yeah,

he played with the GOAT.

Yeah, so trust me.

Bro, his kickoffs, it was so much fun the week of the practice, you know, because you got to give a good look.

Not really.

It's only doing it.

Just he would start

for real.

I think I remember this too.

He'd get through it.

Start at the back line in the end zone.

Shit, it was.

You legit, you're starting like the five-yard line.

Balls kicked off into 30 at the time.

That was when we used to run up, too.

Yeah.

The kickoff team.

Yeah, and they had to time it up.

It was unbelievable.

And now guys are taking one step to hit this kickoff.

Yeah, well, guys, techniques have gotten a lot better over the years.

Sweet spots have gotten better over the years.

Strength explosion has a...

Jason Hanson is a legend.

Absolutely.

Loved him.

He's Hoffnom with AJ?

Hoffnom.

Wow.

What a bunch.

That could be your first time.

I played against him.

I believe I played against him.

When did he retire?

I played against him for many years.

He played for like 35 years.

Yeah, I think he retired right before they made the playoffs.

So like he had played all those years my whole lifetime.

I never watched him play in the playoffs.

He retires and then they make the playoffs.

May, thank you for doing what you did for football for as long as you did.

More people should have seen it, Jay.

So that's why you're Hoffnoff.

Hell yeah.

All right, B.A., what do we need to

get your take on?

We need,

oh, college.

Last week, we talked to you about college.

We need to do that more.

You're very...

How many years did you coach college?

17.

Okay, 17-year-old college.

Long time.

Same right now.

Right now sitting on advisory council of maybe Virginia TechSnest coach.

How's that going?

I saw the $229 million official announcement for the athletics department.

Good for you.

We're going to start meeting today.

Added a name this morning, I believe.

Yeah, we're trying to pitch some names to get in that.

But you're starting meeting today.

Is that real?

What do you got, a Zoom?

Yeah, right here.

On the way to the airport.

Okay, he's dialed in.

Okay, he is out in.

We got a good car, good space.

He's going to have a good office there.

And I'm excited to see who you come up with.

Did you see this past weekend?

Great college football sleeve.

Arch Manning.

Okay.

This Texas team and the story of it is going to certainly be an interesting interesting one.

Obviously, we all know that Arch has potential in town.

I mean, everything going into the year was he's going to be number one overall pick.

This guy's going to win a Heisman.

Now we're sitting after them losing two games to Florida and at Ohio State and at Florida.

And we're wondering what the hell is going on in Texas as a whole.

Sark has never had the rankings offensively that he has right now.

And obviously, Florida was able to do their thing against this Texas team.

It's never really that close.

What do you think is happening down there with Arch?

And is there a way to correct course for a quarterback?

Because he's down there three years now, right?

This is his third year down there?

I thought he's a true freshman last year, but I mean, no, maybe second year.

How many years, Tone?

This is year three for Arch, year two for Lagua.

Okay, yeah, so this is third year for Arch at Texas.

How are we, what would you do?

How do you, how do you, can you work on fundamentals still at this point?

You have to, right?

Every day.

Every day.

I mean, even in the pros, we'd have our quarterback.

We call it going to the driving range.

Every day, quarterback's is 25 minutes, the fundamentals, before practice.

And so, yeah, I think

his off-platform throws seem to be very off.

Yes.

For whatever reason.

We saw the grimace a couple weeks ago, and I thought it was pissed because of the shitty throw, but there might be something to it because the kid is really, really good.

I mean, he's everything we thought he was.

It's just not happening on the field.

I think.

Florida's defensive line got after him really, really good.

And, you know, I think the noise affected their offensive line at the swamp.

And DJ Lagway played like we thought DJ Lagway.

He'd look fantastic, finally.

And but Arch, I don't know what's going on, but they got to get it correct quick.

Yeah, there's certainly going to be a lot of pressure down there in Texas.

I mean, that's certainly going to mount and mount and everything like that.

In the modern NIO world with contracts and how much everything, I wonder.

literally how any of that works because you go back a couple years to Florida State when they had DJ Uyungale and it was going how it was going.

It was almost like they felt obligated to to play him or like they had to play him because the amount of money that he was being paid.

And I'm not saying that that's happening in Texas ever, but with the amount of money that's being paid to everybody, there is even more outside expectation.

You know what team looks unbelievable?

Hey, AJ, that Ohio State team, brother.

Hey.

Yeah.

Nobody's talking about Ohio State right now, okay?

Because they played Texas week one and then into the abyss.

Nobody's going to talk about anything that they do.

When did they play a top five team?

Okay.

All this year has been his top 10 teams or top 10 teams.

When Ohio state plays somebody oh listen okay we don't want to hear all they've done is just use this as practice almost it feels like and get find who they are is that what has happened with ohio state for those that maybe haven't watched or followed along the last few weeks with them uh yeah i mean they're coupling a suffocating unbelievable defense right now that flies around and doesn't let teams score with an offense that seems to be very efficient and joey insane i believe as a quarterback is also kind of flying under the radar and the dude's making he's making some great throws week in and week out and yes he has great talent around him, but yeah, they're rolling right now, man.

Yeah, they're not the only ones.

I mean, Alabama's all the way back.

Yep.

A huge winner.

This Tyson, Miami, unbelievable.

Hey, Miami looks the part.

Yeah, they do.

They look the part.

Every position looks the part.

Like

when I went up to Penn State and saw the white hot, and I was on the field and I saw Penn State's defense and I looked at every player and I'm like, geez, they look the part.

I mean, D-line, everybody shredded, massive.

DBs, everybody big athletic.

You look at this Miami team, trenches, Trenches, big, massive, shredded.

Offensive line, big, massive dudes.

Quarterback, six foot six.

Two wide receivers that are very explosive.

A third if they need it.

We've got run game if they have to have it.

Just everything that they have looks the part down there for Miami.

It is

a special time to be a hurricane.

It feels like South Florida is very much vibing.

And this is only just the beginning because I think they have money and Crystal Ball recruits 24-7 is what we're being told.

And whenever the U is back, I mean,

they do the recruiting themselves just playing football and having that swagger.

So I asked B.A., we talked about Ohio State, talking about Miami.

We know what Oregon is, the powerhouse.

You mentioned the other teams, Ole Miss, Bamelux.

Who do you think is the best team in the country right now?

Well, for me, gosh, I'd have to say Ohio State.

Where the quarterback is, and that's good for them.

They beat Texas.

They didn't ask the quarterback to do too much.

Defense played lights out.

Let this kid grow.

All right, they got Smith.

They got all the receivers.

He looks like he is moving in the right direction.

Ty Simpson at Alabama, same thing.

All of a sudden, this cat's a superstar.

Why the hell has he been sitting on the bench for a couple of years?

He had a bunch of good guys, you know.

And I love that he didn't transfer.

I love the fact that he stayed fudded out and he's getting his due at Alabama.

Alabama looks like they're the real deal, too, in the SEC.

I never count out Georgia, but

Lane Kiffens got him rolling an old miss.

They're scoring a bunch of points.

A miss is going to be a fun battle all the way to the end.

But if I had to pick one right now, I'd have to say Ohio State.

Well, and then if you think about it, too, like just looking at that list of odds, Oklahoma's only plus 1,800 because Matir, you know, hasn't been playing these last two weeks.

If Oklahoma goes out, you know, Matir actually does come back.

Pete Denmell reported that he's pushing to return this weekend for the Texas game.

If he does come back in Oklahoma, you know, beats Texas.

Are we then talking about Oklahoma

being one of those teams?

Because they've been out of the conversation for no real reason aside from the fact that he, you know, he's kind of questionable.

That's a pretty big real reason, though.

he was best quarterback in uh maybe in country whenever he was playing and our buckle his offense coordinator came with him so we thought maybe him leaving would affect the entire offense because obviously they were a package they still win games venable still has the defense and if he comes back to play against tech let's go to hammer

that's a massive game this weekend that i think we all probably assumed game day was going to be at and then you have unfortunate losses happen and then you can't do it uh but so we're heading out to oregon against with indie indiana again It's all the way back.

I mean, their name hasn't even been mentioned this entire thing, let alone Oregon.

But down there, Texas, Oklahoma, the story is Matir's back.

Is that happening?

That's a great question.

I saw that earlier today, and a lot of the reports were like, hey, he's going to be pushing to get back by the end of October.

What are we sitting on, October 7th, right now?

So, I mean, that would be a really, really quick comeback.

I know Oklahoma is thinking about building a statue for the surgeon who did the operation on his hand if he does get back for this game.

But like, even if he doesn't, Michael Hawkins got some playing time last year.

Was it great?

No, it wasn't terrible though either.

Their O-line was a disaster.

They didn't have any wide receivers.

He played okay last week.

Like they can still, there's no reason they can't win this game without Matir.

Would they be much better with Matir?

I mean, they're dogs right now, so that line makes me think that Matir, or at least the books don't think Matir is going to play this weekend.

But like he's just, he's different.

Like he's a wild card.

You have no idea what he's going to do.

You have no idea what throw he's gonna make or what he's gonna try um i definitely want to see matir back this weekend but it is when you look at that slate it is an absolute loaded slate of college football this weekend all every single one of those games was either a ranked team currently or a ranked team at the start of the season.

So at one point, all of these teams have been ranked this season.

So it is a it's gonna be a very, very exciting weekend of college football.

Got a lot of good ball coming, and then obviously MetLife Thursday night kicks it all off as the Philadelphia Eagles travel out to New York.

Dr.

Shin is the name you're looking for out there in Oklahoma that did the surgery on John Matier.

And they're saying if he gets back for Texas in just a couple weeks, Dr.

Shin's hands might be etched in stone forever.

Thank God for his successful procedure.

Dr.

Shin is the goat.

Boomer sooner says John Matir.

Good luck to all the boys in their recovery.

Great work there, Tone.

All right, on the way out here, B.A., you want to make some putts for some people?

Here we go.

Here we go, Bruce.

Here we go.

No glasses.

All business.

No glasses.

Time it up.

up, though.

Which putter do you want to use?

We have a variety of options.

I'm going to the long one today.

You're going to the long one.

Oh, okay.

Okay, this one?

Like the long?

Yep, that's it.

Yep, that's the one.

Okay, now this is the extendo, I will say.

This is not just long.

It is an extendo.

He'll have to make about an eight-foot putt here on a very tough Thunderdobe green.

Yeah.

We have seen this green take down plenty of man.

Have we not, AJ Hawk?

We have seen it take down lots of people.

You are correct.

People that say they're good golfers get taken down.

What's that?

The spot.

Yeah, that's the spot.

Now, hold on, coach.

Is there three balls there, or how many balls you got?

Three balls.

You got to go one of three?

Yeah.

Oh, there it is.

There you go.

You got to go two of four.

You got to go two of four here to make it only eight feet.

Now it does break a little bit right and left.

Yeah, exactly.

You got to find the right spine.

You played just a few days ago on your birthday, correct?

You played well.

You putted well.

Okay, let's go.

You make two out of four.

We'll give

20 people $500 or repost this video and say something kind.

A.J.

Hawk is about to give you a motivational speech, if you'd like to hear it.

B.A., I am not here to give you a motivational speech.

You don't need one.

Just go drain four out of four right there and call it a date.

He wasn't listening.

He didn't have his headphones in.

Thank God he did it.

Thank God he did it because of what you said.

We're trying to get some winners around here.

Ty, watch.

He's going to drain them all.

Brute B.A.

knows he's going to drain them all.

He doesn't need to just make two out of four.

Are you going to double it if he makes four out of four?

Yes.

Yes, I will.

Yes, I will.

Wow.

And he'll be be coming out of your check tie okay anything to say uh to coach ba as he tries to do the impossible yeah ba you've told us that you know you've you've let a couple of your putters go you know take a take a dive in the water the urgency and quickness with which you picked up the long putter makes me think that's in his bag right now and he used this over the weekend maybe let's go right in the heart of the cup sink these fuckers this one has been benched

oh no i really like this one on this surface okay okay okay on this surface, on this day.

Okay.

Long.

Here we go.

And synthetic.

Let's get some authentic buckets from Coach BA.

Oh, he's got to do.

Oh,

with the Super Bowl ring.

Oh, no, with the Super Bowl ring up there on the top.

It's got to go to a four.

Smooth.

Wow.

Ladies and gentlemen,

man.

Perfect pace, too.

Yeah, sure.

The touch is real from the QB Whisperer.

He's got a Super Bowl championship ring on top of a putter.

Boom!

Oh my God.

That's 21ners of $500.

Now, if he makes both of these, there's a chance that we double this thing.

Holy shit.

Stop.

Yeah, right.

Oh, Bruce.

It's been

Bruce.

Pause.

Pause.

Hold the fuck off.

Hold on, Bruce.

Connor has some thoughts on your putting stroke I think he'd like to give you before you try to do the impossible and make all four putts here at the Thunderdome.

I'm gonna be honest, I thought when you grabbed that putter, you were the goofiest son of a bitch ever to step on that green.

And now that you're three or three, all of a sudden, I might get back into golf and I might get one of those bitches.

Wow, you're inspiring people back to the sport here.

You're driving sales of long putters.

Now, I do think the added benefit of the Super Bowl ring does help.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Good little anchor.

All right, coach.

All you got to do is make this putt, and we'll give

40 people $500

on his BA day

Walked it off.

Wow, my God.

No one's ever done that.

Ever.

Thunderdome is.

There it is.

No one's ever done that either.

Knock it off.

No one's ever done that either.

Thunderdome.

It sounds unbelievable, Bruce.

Wow.

Holy shit.

No one can't do that again.

Give me some.

Wow.

Unreal.

That was an honor to watch.

Never a doubt.

Never a doubt.

Good job, BA.

Good job.

Wow.

He liked it on this surface.

Dude, that putter, this surface, with a walk-off.

What a run.

Good for you.

Happy BA dating.

Thank you, brother.

All you got to do is repost this video, say something nice to somebody, and put the easiest way to pay you.

And you might be randomly selected to be one of 40 winners.

$500 because BA can't miss.

That was sick.

Thank you for today, BA.

That was awesome.

That's my brain.

All right, we'll be back tomorrow.

We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living.

You're the greatest people on earth.

Be a friend, tell a friend something nice that might change his life.

We're going to sing together.

Team on me.

BA, anything you say to the team?

Great day.

Better day next week.

Hell yeah.

Team on three.

One, two, three.

Goodbye.

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