PMS 2.0 1438 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Week 8 Recap, MNF Preview, Adam Schefter, Dan Orlovsky, Ole Miss Head Coach Lane Kiffin and QB Trinidad Chambliss, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Speaker 1 Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this massive Overreaction Monday, October 27, 2025, this program begins with now.

Speaker 1 Football is fabulous, isn't it? Until you have a slate like yesterday that is certainly not desirable. Now, there was obviously a close game.
The rest of the slate was absolute shite.

Speaker 1 Now, that's good news if you're on the winning side. Terrible news if you're on the losing side.
And tonight, don't look now, 11 and a half point spread. We're staring at.

Speaker 1 So, will this be the week of blowouts? We shall see the toxic tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Congrats to you boys.
Big wins yesterday. Thank you.
You too. Looked well.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Let's go to one half of the hammer.
God, Cowboys, AP10. Oh, no.
Sorry. We have shite uniforms on Sunday night football.
Brett Michaels didn't bring his A game. Not what we said.

Speaker 1 Some people that were there said they couldn't hear him as good throughout the entire stadium. So maybe that shifted the momentum at halftime to what it became.

Speaker 1 But the Pittsburgh Steelers lose to the Green Bay Packers in the Aaron Rodgers Bowl, although Akersher certainly had the environment of a massive game.

Speaker 1 The field looked much worse than it seemed to have played last night. But the game ends with the Green Bay Packers getting a huge win over the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 1 Let's go to a Pittsburgh Steelers fan, one half of the hammer.

Speaker 1 Cowboys AP tone. Tone, how's life right now? Everything okay over there after a primetime loss? Yep.
Yep.

Speaker 1 No. No, I know.

Speaker 2 No, it's not all right. I wish I was in your guys' spot,

Speaker 2 you know, celebrating blowout wins and happy. But no, it was just

Speaker 2 another primetime loss and a sleepless night. And now I'm starting the week on a bad footing.

Speaker 1 It's just not good. Okay, yeah, well, you're not the only one.
I think there's a lot of people in Pittsburgh saying this is exactly who we've been for the past 10 years. Yep.

Speaker 1 It's exactly who we've been for the past 10 years. We were sold a brand new bill of goods here because Aaron Rodgers coming in here.

Speaker 1 And Aaron, obviously, a Hall of Famer and incredible, he's doing his thing. But now if it's not the offensive, what happened to the defense?

Speaker 1 It feels like for the last eight, nine years, since Seven retired, there's never really been hope that you could win a Super Bowl with the team that's on the field.

Speaker 1 But you could certainly win games, which the Pittsburgh Steelers have done. Can you win the big one? Here's a big one in the middle of the season.

Speaker 1 And Tucker Kraft goes bananas for the Green Bay Packers. And Jordan Love obviously spins it.
But the defense for Green Bay does enough.

Speaker 1 And for Pittsburgh's side, the defense seemingly the problem throughout the entirety of the season on display last night. Or is it just, hey, you played a good Green Green Bay Packers game.

Speaker 1 This is a good

Speaker 3 team.

Speaker 4 No, I wish it was just that.

Speaker 2 I believe that's four games now that they've led up 30 points this season, which hasn't happened since 2003, I believe, 2004, right before we got the honor of drafting 1-7 Ben Rothelsberger.

Speaker 2 So the defense is horrendous. They basically took the same game plan as the Bengals and said, hey, we're not going to give the D-line any chance to get to the quarterback.

Speaker 1 We're going to throw short stuff.

Speaker 2 And then the Steelers don't know how to tackle 235 yards after catch, I believe, at one point of Jordan Love's 315 yards. So a bit of insanity there.

Speaker 1 That was at one point. It ended with 244 yards after contact or catch in total versus Packers, most in any regular season game under Mike Tomlin.
In its last two games, Joey Flack and Jordan Love.

Speaker 1 Pittsburgh has allowed 702 passing yards with six touchdowns and only two sacks on 86 dropbacks. That's from Hembo.
We appreciate the hell out of him. Let's go to a nine-year NFL vet, Darius J.

Speaker 1 Butler here.

Speaker 1 D-buck obviously make a living in a secondary. Is that all tackling? Like, what's going on with the Pittsburgh Steelers right now?

Speaker 3 Yeah, whenever you see all that yak, it's definitely bad tackling, bad coverage. And also, Jordan Love just being hot.
You know, 20 straight completions on the way to throw him for 360 yards.

Speaker 3 And it wasn't a bunch of dink and dunks, you know, screens or little short routes. Like, he was actually throwing up there, putting the balls, kind of in harm's way.

Speaker 3 And his receivers were making plays. Tucker Craft obviously had a phenomenal night on National Tight End Day.
And then Watson.

Speaker 3 I mean, Christian Watson made his presence felt all night long, coming back after a week 18 ACL tier, I believe. He's a deep threat, has been since stepping into the National Football League.

Speaker 3 He was a big threat. Just all around, Love was feeling it, man.
I'm sure it meant a ton to him going against his predecessor on the other sideline.

Speaker 1 Sport play right there.

Speaker 1 And Jordan Love, you know, showing that gunslinger mentality that he certainly has, just like some of the Green Bay Packers quarterback times of the past.

Speaker 1 Ty, whenever you're watching this Packers team, does this get you excited for a... a big-time win like this.
LaFleur also seemingly handled the entire moment perfectly.

Speaker 1 Him and Aaron Rodgers had their moment beforehand. Jordan Love, you talk about his relationship with Aaron Rodgers.
Aaron said to Chris Collinsworth, I believe, that normally they text back and forth.

Speaker 1 This week, they did not talk to each other. The only time they talked in pregame was at the captain's coin toss as well.
Felt like they were both pretty locked in. Jordan Love needed it.
Do you think?

Speaker 1 Do you think Jordan Love need? Not that it would make or break his entire thing. That was a big one, though, I think, for Jordan Love, Kai Schmidt.

Speaker 4 Yeah, massive. Because even really, I mean, you know, there was some chatter about him, but coming in, it was all about Rodgers playing his former team.

Speaker 4 There really wasn't that much of like, hey, Jordan Love quietly is having a very good year, and this would be a massive notch in his belt.

Speaker 4 But this is kind of like, you know, he's been a little inconsistent, and that's what Packers fans, like, they've seen glimpses of this, and that's why it's like last night for him to complete 20 consecutive passes and just take the game over.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 4 this is the team we saw the first couple weeks, I think. Last night, big moment, big stage, and,

Speaker 4 you know, it brought it out in them. But,

Speaker 4 you know, it's the same deal. They didn't look good in the first half.
That's what we were saying.

Speaker 4 You know, I don't want to say it, but Brett Michaels may have single-handedly lost the Steelers the game.

Speaker 1 What? Oh, dude.

Speaker 4 Going into halftime, after the Packers, you know, missed the field goal. McManus, I don't know what's going on there.
He might still have something with his.

Speaker 1 Yeah, 57 short. That's not McManus.
No, no, that's not him.

Speaker 4 And then he missed another one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, which having a

Speaker 1 lot of fun.

Speaker 4 So we'll see. But after that, going into the half, I was like, oh, boy, this thing could get ugly quick.

Speaker 4 And luckily, you know, when the Packers have needed to turn it on this year in moments like that, they've done that. And yeah, love was just tremendous.

Speaker 4 And this defense, you know, just week after week, I mean, they did enough last night, but they played so good in the second half. Micah, Rashawn Gary.
So yeah,

Speaker 4 as opposed to the last couple of weeks when I woke up on Monday morning and being like, man, I just don't know about this team. Like, I feel very good today.

Speaker 4 This is the team I saw the first two weeks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, these are just temperature gauging games. Right.
You know, whenever it's some other team that you expect to be around in the end, you would like to see where your team is at right now.

Speaker 1 A lot of football left, obviously. And shout out to Billy Bones, Pittsburgh Steeler, diehard fan there with the video of Brett Michaels performing at halftime.

Speaker 1 Also said maybe the audio wasn't perfect, which is why you're talking about it. The Insers wanted to sing along with Brett.
Exactly. They wanted to get after it with Brett.

Speaker 1 And maybe the echo, maybe where he was at, whatever the case wasn't perfect for all parties in the building, would it ever be? And Brett Michaels still brought it.

Speaker 1 I saw him twirling a terrible tile, too. He was getting after it.
So I don't think it's on him like you tried to make it out to be, but it was certainly a different half in the second one.

Speaker 1 Go ahead, Commission.

Speaker 5 Did you get that jacket from Brett Michaels or that come from?

Speaker 1 I'll tell you what. I think Brett Michaels, a man of style, would certainly maybe wear this jacket here.
This is from NFL Mexico. Make sure you tag them if we post about this right here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, NFL Mexico was on the field yesterday at the Loud House, you know, watching the Indianapolis Colts do what the Indianapolis Colts have been doing this season, too.

Speaker 1 The Tennessee Titans, which we'll talk more about here. And Raul from NFL Mexico, who we met down at Super Bowl Radio Row, if you do recall,

Speaker 1 was there. He was on site.
And I was chit-chatting with some folks. There's always like a reunion before the games where our suite is.
The view that we had of Jonathan Taylor down that sideline.

Speaker 3 That was that was literally unbelievable.

Speaker 1 Running actual

Speaker 1 way. Oh, so watching his toes, literally just watching his toes from where ours.
Yeah, so we're right down. We're literally on the other side.

Speaker 1 I'm watching right down that sideline, like actually right down that sideline. I have no idea how he stayed in.
His little toes.

Speaker 1 I don't know how. And he's looking down while he's doing it.
That would naturally drive you normally. Your head and eyes go a certain way.
He is outrageous. This guy is outrageous.

Speaker 1 This was his second, he would have a third, obviously, another one. This is his only 80-yard run.
This guy, absolutely outrageous. But I'm watching it from where we're at.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of talking before the game. How you doing? How you doing? Four o'clock game, too.
A lot of people coming through there earlier, yada, yada, yada. Then the NFL Mexico guy comes.

Speaker 1 Bang, how you doing? Hands up. He said, We're very appreciative of the conversation we had at the Super Bowl.
You

Speaker 1 were very kind to us or something like that. We have a few of these jackets we'd like to issue one.
I've never seen a cooler jacket in my life. So sweet.
I see the background. I see some in the back.

Speaker 1 No Noabla? Okay. No problem.
You know, that's cool.

Speaker 1 La Vieta. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I know what that means.

Speaker 1 Until death, I believe, is what it means. Locked in, yep.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Viva Laraza, obviously, Eddie Guerrero, Rey Mysterio, Nuba, LWO, and then Asta La Muerte. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Until death, dude. Yep.
I don't know if I'll be able to wear it every day until then because it is very hot. Sure.
It is very hot. Oh, man, it looks looks cool.
It does, yeah.

Speaker 1 And it's not a button either. It's a zip.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's sick. Yeah, yeah.
So this thing can get real hot if you need to.

Speaker 2 I also think Dia de los Muertos is coming up. So if you want to wear it for that, too.

Speaker 1 Is that Cinco de Mayo? That is a day to day.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 I didn't know. I mean, muchos gracias me amigos.

Speaker 1 So sorry.

Speaker 1 I'm trying my best. I don't know.

Speaker 1 I did say muchos gracias to me, amigo, Raul, and I would like to continue that. This is one of the coolest things I've ever received.
Thank you for this.

Speaker 1 And shout out to the game growing internationally. And on that note, it's time for us to do our first 15.
Now, remember, this first 15, driven by

Speaker 1 Ram trucks, is certainly aiming to be a 15-minute segment, okay, where we take the top five headlines coming out of the NFL Sunday Slate and we chit-chat about them.

Speaker 1 But it's not first 15 minutes necessarily. Could we please put the clock up here? It's not necessarily a first 15 minutes.
It's first 15 place place with the goal to be

Speaker 1 in 15 minutes. Last week was 42 minutes.
Close. We're getting better.
Okay. Kind of starting to get down a little bit.

Speaker 1 Touchdown drive.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 Hey, this was like Texans.

Speaker 1 Methodical.

Speaker 1 That's the possession that we had, you know, which, by the way, they're saying record-breaking possession time. Since like 2006, Texans absolutely dominated the 49ers in that entirety.

Speaker 1 So we're going to try to get through these.

Speaker 1 Last week was the first time we mentioned how long it was, and we went longer than we've ever gone before. Sure.
So let's just, let's try to keep this one tidy. Tidy? Tidy.
Here we go. Good tidy.

Speaker 1 Tidy. Tidy on three.

Speaker 1 One, two, three. Tidy.
Okay, here we go. Let's start with number five.

Speaker 5 Headline.

Speaker 1 Start the clock. An absolute shite.

Speaker 1 Sunday slate. Listen, we're just going to read through the scores here, okay? We're just going to read through the scores.

Speaker 1 38, 14, 35, 25, 32, 13, 44, 24, 30, 16, 40 to 9, 26 to 15, 23 to 3, 38 to 20, 34 to 10. And then in a barn burner, okay,

Speaker 1 the Jets win 39, 38 over the Bengals. Okay, so that's the only game that was within one score.
Everything else, absolute shite across the board.

Speaker 1 And don't look now, as I mentioned, 11 and a half point spread tonight. Marcus Mariota traveling into the kingdom, in the Chiefs' kingdom as an 11 and a half point dog.

Speaker 1 Now, we believe that this commanders team is on a good trajectory. We like what Washington's doing.
We appreciate what the commanders are doing. Cliff Kingsbury is an absolute dog.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs is better than the Chiefs have been. And they're at home.
And we all believe that they're probably going to win the game.

Speaker 1 And if it leads, if it's anything like what yesterday was, this might be a 35-point game.

Speaker 1 We didn't know that the NFL could produce this. We didn't know that every single game could be a blowout.

Speaker 1 We started watching those games yesterday and it's like, you got Squad Box on, and then you got Red Zone channel. And you're like, I must be missing some games.
Where are these at?

Speaker 1 And you just see Scheid score, shite score, shite score. And it's like, well, modern NFL, there is no such thing as a shite score.
Everybody can come back. They didn't.
Everybody was dead early.

Speaker 1 This thing was over quick.

Speaker 1 The NFL obviously can't thrive off of this, but these are nice reminders every once in a while that any given Sunday, if you don't show up, you can get your ass beat debuffed.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you just mentioned this is the complete opposite of what the NFL is on a week-to-week basis. Typically, it comes down, it's a one-possession game.

Speaker 3 It's a two-minute drive, you know, kicking a field goal, scoring a touchdown, something like that. But it's just a bunch of blow-offs.
Probably expected the Colts, Titans to be a blowout.

Speaker 3 I expect a much better game with the Broncos, Cowboys, and then the Dolphins surprisingly beat the shit out of the Falcons. So, yeah, just a surprising slate all around.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we always say on any given Sunday, there's a lot of teams

Speaker 2 in this league right now who are either bad or on any given Sunday are capable of laying an egg for sure.

Speaker 1 Well, that's it. So, we played the Pittsburgh Steelers and got blown out.
a couple times whenever we were on the Indianapolis Colts. Good days.
And those good days for you, for sure.

Speaker 1 It's a nice reminder whenever you ask, like, because we had a good team. Yeah.
And you just get killed.

Speaker 1 And it's like you ask the coaches around those times or the players around those times, like the OGs. It's like, yeah, like this could happen eight a week.

Speaker 1 You just get a couple guys that don't show up and play good at a couple of positions. That's what the NFL is.
I think that's what, like, people think these teams are shite.

Speaker 1 So people get into the conversation. You know what? Saints.
Saints will lose to Ohio State. Indiana would be able to beat the Saints or something like that.

Speaker 1 People start saying that type of stuff, especially whenever teams are terrible.

Speaker 1 Then there's always a reminder like, hey, these are professional athletes getting paid a professional check to play football.

Speaker 1 And every once in a while, the universe comes together and you can be great. And every once in a while, the universe comes together and says, you guys suck today.

Speaker 1 And that can certainly happen to any team.

Speaker 3 And as soon as you think you got it figured out, like even as fans on the outside looking in, I thought I knew, you know, who the Falcons were at this point.

Speaker 3 You know, okay, maybe they're a much better team. Even the Steelers, I thought the Steelers would show up.

Speaker 3 The Cowboys, we knew their defense was absolute shite, but I thought they could at least put up points offensively and kind of get in a shootout with the Broncos.

Speaker 3 So, yeah, a lot of question marks still next to a lot of these teams up there.

Speaker 1 Stat from Hembo and ESPN Research. There's only been one game decided by single digits on Sunday.
Sunday was the first day with one or zero games decided by single digits since December 20th, 1970.

Speaker 1 That's nuts.

Speaker 1 Some merger. Shite indeed.

Speaker 5 Good addition.

Speaker 1 That's almost Austin Award. Yeah, bingo true.
That is almost Austin award day, dude. Okay, so it was shite indeed, says Hembo, which we agree, Hembo.

Speaker 1 shite indeed i i didn't read the 1970 part of that stat i just did the whole that's a long time of of football not being shite we were there for it yeah hell yeah hey we lived through it yep yep covid yeah exactly okay i was of the age you know 2001 lived through that sure worst football game of all time or worst football sunday of all time basically

Speaker 4 we were we were a part of that for the nfl well and the real kicker is you know typically if we have a shite slate there's still like maybe one or two games where they'll at least be close, you know, going down the stretch.

Speaker 4 I mean, Jets Bengals, like that, that that was just like a, hey, you have red zone.

Speaker 5 I'm like, oh, wow, hey, Jets are starting to come back a little bit.

Speaker 4 Like, I wasn't paying any attention to that game, and it turns out to be by far the best game of the day.

Speaker 1 Shout out, there's a lot of potential, you know, spiritual stuff with that particular game, too, for Jets left. Sure.
Nick Mangold passing away.

Speaker 1 We would like to send our condolences and positive prayers and vibes, obviously, to his family.

Speaker 1 He and AJ Hawk were like, I think, best friends since they're kids, same high school, obviously, roommates at Ohio State. So, we've learned a lot about Nick Bengal, got to know him a lot.

Speaker 1 Absolute legend of a human. Everything you hear about him, just know that it's in every aspect of his life.
Oh, this guy was a great teammate. Oh, this guy's a great business partner.

Speaker 1 Oh, this guy's a great dad. This guy's a great husband.
This guy's a great everything about him was great.

Speaker 1 We had a chance to catch up with him a couple weeks ago when everything was going on, and I was trying to get some more information on how we could help maybe on the program and just chatting with him, still talking shit, still quick.

Speaker 1 The beard was still still good i mean they just you're talking utter surprise here uh society has lost a great man so the jets getting a huge win on that day was cool that was like cool to see that was now i don't think anybody was expecting a 39 38 win but that being the only game that was really in it stinks for the nfl but boy if you're on one of those winning teams let's enjoy these

Speaker 1 let's enjoy these because you know most games very scary yeah are we gonna lose this or are we gonna win just being able to about third quarter to say

Speaker 1 we're way better in this game.

Speaker 1 Let's go ahead and enjoy this little. Progress for starters.
You had to call the game for the Colts Titans. I assume you did a great job.

Speaker 1 I haven't gone back and listened to it, but the boys, we had an ear on it so we could pull any clips for it. You did a great job on that.

Speaker 1 You had to work that entire game, you know, all the way down to the end. We were having a good time this week.

Speaker 1 Just know, we were enjoying the hell out of this particular game.

Speaker 1 And although many would say this game was shite, as a Colts fan, I'd like to let you know it was fantastic watching that man do his thing. All right, let's go to the number four headline here.

Speaker 1 Now, listen, I like that there's a new holiday. Anytime we can create something to celebrate something, I'm with it.
Okay.

Speaker 1 So the people that push against some of these things that happen, oh, it's too gimmicky. It's too whatever.
Like the Super Duper Cup that the NBA put in

Speaker 1 in the middle of the thing, the Commissioner Cup or whatever the hell it is. No, the

Speaker 1 NBA Cup. Yeah, sorry, the NBA Cup.
They put it in the middle of the season. Everybody's like, this is a gimmick.
It's like, who cares? We're celebrating. We're giving out trophies.

Speaker 1 I think they shouldn't be hanging the banners next to the other banners, but we we should still enjoy it.

Speaker 1 So, when National Tight Ends Day was created by this tight end university boys who were trying to absolutely build a brand of what their position is, which are dogs across the board, you got to be tough enough to block.

Speaker 1 You got to be athletic enough to be able to get open and catch the ball. And oh, yeah, normally going to have to be the mentality center for your entire team.

Speaker 1 This tight end position is insane, especially with the amount of talent that there is. And there's a National Tight Ends Day that should be celebrated.

Speaker 1 And it feels like defensive coordinators should understand the day is existing as well. I know the NFL puts out tweets and puts out shirts and shit like that.

Speaker 1 I think defensive coordinators need to have somebody on the horn saying, hey, what's going on this weekend? Oh, it's National Tight Ends Day.

Speaker 1 Do you think offense coordinators are going to target tight ends a little bit more because of that? Defense coordinator saying, no. Everybody else around going, yeah.
Tight ends went off yesterday.

Speaker 1 And it feels like every year on National Tight Ends Day, tight ends go crazy. Tucker Kraft was the main event.
He went absolutely absurd. What is the Tucker Kraft story?

Speaker 1 He grew up on a Native American reservation. Yeah, correct.

Speaker 4 In South Dakota, grew up on the reservation and actually was named an honorary member of the tribe for, you know, because obviously lived on it through high school and everything.

Speaker 4 But yeah, he's an absolute dog.

Speaker 1 Yes, he is. He did a kip-up last night

Speaker 1 on that sod that was unbelievable. Runs people over.
He's like ultimate warrior.

Speaker 1 And it seems like he gets the ropes and gets abolished just like this as well. I couldn't even fathom.
They were saying nine-on-nine football or something like that. Imagine him playing basketball.

Speaker 1 Imagine anything. Now, granted, there's probably.
That was filthy.

Speaker 1 The amount of explosivity that requires that.

Speaker 3 He did not push off with his hands either.

Speaker 1 Yes, he did. They were just there.

Speaker 3 If you see that other angle,

Speaker 3 he didn't push. He didn't put.

Speaker 1 Oh, it was just a balance.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he didn't push it. Okay, because humans like me, even on a springy floor,

Speaker 1 I need to use hands to shoot myself off. Sure, not athletic enough.
You're saying he just wanted to see where a ground was.

Speaker 1 He was maybe holding the ground down, actually.

Speaker 1 Yeah, been so that he could i didn't know humans did it without their hands oh what's that i didn't know humans did that without their hands uh drew mcintyre actually just from back no hands just kicks himself over

Speaker 1 the scottish psychopath yeah

Speaker 1 he's actually

Speaker 1 quite calculated to re-roll but but whatever it takes that's an insane thing but the all these tight ends go absolutely crazy i mean you go through goddart had two touchdowns they got george kittle tongs hunter henry and joku harold fannin' jr mason taylor gunner helm charlie caller and then let's not even forget, Tyler Warren exists.

Speaker 1 Didn't score a touchdown on National Tight Ends Day. Kind of screwed Gumpy over on a touchdown parlay.
Gumpy was refusing to have a good time because Tyler Warren didn't get a end zone early.

Speaker 1 I said, you're a part of the problem, Gumpy, not a part of the solution here. Should have cashed out whenever it was a $25 bet for $900.
You decide to continue to run. That's on you.

Speaker 1 That is not on Tyler Warren. Tyler Warren's an absolute dog, as are all of these tight ends.
Brees Hall throws an incredible touchdown here as we're Mossin folks with Mason Taylor, but debuts.

Speaker 1 The position is difficult. I know Nicol, obviously, the third corner in, which is now a part of basically

Speaker 1 every defensive starting pack. Yep.

Speaker 1 Normally have to square off against tight ends. When did the tight end position transition into these monsters that they are in today's game start to happen?

Speaker 1 And what did defenses try to do to combat it?

Speaker 3 I mean, Antonio Gates kind of revolutionized it. I would say in our

Speaker 3 age group, you know, Williamslow before that as a charger tight end. But yeah, Gronk was kind of like the Mo.
He was the hybrid, which kind of kittle is, great blocker and then also great receiver.

Speaker 3 Then Travis Kelsey became like, hey, almost like a bonus wide receiver. But yeah, they're a matchup problem.
They're just so big, they're so athletic.

Speaker 3 And because of their range, their catch range, their radius, they're always open. Even when a DB or linebacker is on them, they can just box you out and go up there and get a rebound.

Speaker 3 They are just phenomenal talents.

Speaker 3 And not to mention, on Thursday night, Ronde Gatston Jr., he balled out for the Chargers as well, which another Dolphin legend son that we could have drafted just like Mason Taylor, but that's neither here nor there.

Speaker 1 Hunter Henry is like now the pillar of the Patriots. Is he the longest tenured New England Patriot up there?

Speaker 5 It feels like that's a good question, probably. But I mean, even on that list of rookies, like Mason Taylor, Debut just mentioned, he won the game for the Jets, Breeze all through the touchdown.

Speaker 5 Like Mason Taylor stepped up in the biggest moment. And then if there is one bright spot of that shite Tennessee Titans team, it's Gunner Helm.
Gunner Helm has been really good for them, too. So

Speaker 1 Cam Wharton. Yeah, and Cam Wharton.

Speaker 5 And then also Harold Fannin Jr. for the Browns.
He was the only guy making plays for Cleveland yesterday. It's impressive these young tight ends coming in.

Speaker 1 I love the position as a whole. Just because those guys, what, back in the day, would probably be moved to either defensive end or maybe offensive line.

Speaker 1 Or maybe, hey, go play some hoops. Hey, you're an incredible athlete.
You're seemingly not big enough, but too big. Maybe go play some hoops.

Speaker 1 Now, this position is like, hey, if you are the freakiest athlete, we got the position for you. And that's seemingly what it's become.

Speaker 3 And that's your problem. Yep.

Speaker 1 Congrats to the tight ends. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Happy National Tight End Day.

Speaker 1 Austin Moorth Day. Yep.
National Tight End Day. Hell yeah.
National Tight End Day. All right, let's go to the number three headline coming out of our football weekend.
High school miracles.

Speaker 1 Now, high school football obviously is something that we all love.

Speaker 1 We all grew up being a fan of. Obviously, that's folklore.
It's fairy tale. Well, there's two high school situations that happened on Friday night that need to be seen.

Speaker 1 Let's start here in Indiana, about an hour and 10 minutes northeast of where we sit here. 2A football, Eastbrook versus Alexandria.
Eastbrook undefeated on the season.

Speaker 1 Alexandria needs to win to move on in the playoffs. Eastbrook already has it cemented.
We are now with 11 seconds left in the game. Alexandria has the ball.
Fourth down. Got to run an 11-second play.

Speaker 1 What do they end up running? Huh? Huh? Huh? Run back. Run back can still run away.
Throws up. Boom.
Four seconds left. Okay, so now there's four seconds left for Eastbrook, the undefeated power of 2A.

Speaker 1 Bodie Howe comes in, number 15, quarterback for Eastbrook. Good, play it.
What are we going to run? Well, obviously, we're going to run hook and ladder in the annexation of Puerto Rico.

Speaker 1 Okay, it might be a four-lateral there. Left in caught though.
Stripes down here, didn't see it. Bodie Howe gets the ball back.
He's at his own 15. He's at his own 11.
He's getting the edge.

Speaker 1 Bodie Howe, quarterback, Eastbrook, 6'1, 205 pounds senior senior at Eastbrook. Oh,

Speaker 1 rumbling, fumbling, jumping. Oh, no.
Scoring.

Speaker 1 Wow, let's go. Hold the phone.
It's got to go to you. Hold the phone.

Speaker 5 There's a flag on the play. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 It's got to be the forward lateral, right? Back there at the beginning?

Speaker 3 No, it was forward lateral. It was way back there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, turns out it's not forward lateral. It was actually a block in the back on the offensive team.
Oh. Okay.
So you go ahead and pick that flag up. Congratulations.
No play. We're over.
Nope.

Speaker 1 As there was a lineup for handshakes, because each of these teams thought it was over after a block in the back was called on Eastbrook. The refs say, get back on the sidelines.

Speaker 1 There's one more untime done.

Speaker 1 How does that work? 10 yards from the spot of the foul. Indiana.
Bodie Howe gets an opportunity. Bodie Howe's not asking.
Hey, this ain't Bodie's fault. No.

Speaker 1 Bodie and the Eastbrook boys, this ain't our fault. Hey, let's make the rest of the play.
That's what we're going to do. Bodie Howe going to take advantage of it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he is. Wing T, three wide receivers.
Whoa!

Speaker 1 Give me that.

Speaker 1 So now they score a touchdown.

Speaker 1 Okay, so on time down after their own block in the back, after a forward lateral potential, hook and ladder, annexation of Puerto Rico, it's not their fault. Hey, not your blinders.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 It's not Bodie Howe's fault at all. Now they need to pick up the two-point conversion.
29-27. You think Bodie Howe's not going to pick it up? Yeah, right.
Roll right. Out of pocket.
Jump. Back.

Speaker 1 Fade away. Give me that.
Tieball game. Let's go to overtime.
Well, Alexandria scores a touchdown on their first series. Eastbrook has to answer.
You think Bodie Howe's going to answer?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm keeping it. Touchdown.
What do they do? They're going to tie it up? They can tie it up. Are they going to go for two? Go for two.
Oh, no. Bodie Howell.
Pitch man's open. No way.

Speaker 1 I'll take it. They win.
Wow. Eastbrook remains undefeated.
Alexandria.

Speaker 1 Wow. Alexandria, I like to say a hard fought game.
That's incredible work. Way to show resiliency and score in overtime.
On that note, Bodie Howell. This guy's unstoppable.

Speaker 1 This guy's unstoppable. What a name.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it is a great name. What a name.
I mean, what a game.

Speaker 3 That's a tough one, though.

Speaker 3 Are you familiar with the rules here in the state?

Speaker 1 So I don't, in my eyes, in my head, the only time you ever extend a game untime down is when there's a defensive penalty. Offensive penalties, I never thought there was an extension of

Speaker 1 the time, you know, because offense wants another play. So if they make a mistake, they're getting rewarded almost by making a mistake.

Speaker 1 So I always thought the defensive penalty was leading to the untimed out. Is that how you view it? I thought so.

Speaker 3 Maybe that's just us. covering and playing pro sports.
I feel like it was that way in college, but it probably changes state by state with these rules, but this was absolutely wild.

Speaker 1 Tone Diggs just sent a rule, and I think we could pull it up right now, but the teams thought it was over too.

Speaker 1 Teams, the full video has them. Yeah, the announcer.
Now, granted, we had the Alexandria announcer. Sure.
He was not as pumped up as the Eastbrook announcer. Eastbrook is on the other side.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. A miracle.
Okay, so Article 3, a period shall be extended by an untimed down if one of the following occurred.

Speaker 1 There was a foul by either team and the penalty is accepted, except for those fouls listed in 3-3-4. There was a double foul.
There was an inadvertent. What's it?

Speaker 1 If a touchdown was scored, the try is attempted unless the touchdown is scored during the last down and the fourth period and the point would not affect the outcome of the game or playoff qualifying.

Speaker 1 If a touchdown was scored, the try is attempted unless the touchdown is scored during the last down of the fourth period and the points would not affect the outcome of the game or playoff.

Speaker 1 What's that mean?

Speaker 1 Somebody's gonna have to explain that to us. We're all very surprised by it, and congrats to them getting a huge win in Eastbrook and start Alexandria and then in Plumboro.

Speaker 1 Okay, Pennsylvania, sure, the Plum Mustangs. Wow, we're playing the Penn Hills.

Speaker 3 I know that name. That's where uh is it still?

Speaker 1 Is it still? I don't know. I don't want to say their mascot name.
I had an answer. Is it still?

Speaker 1 aaron donald's uh home a lot of good football freelick a lot of good football in penn hills plum penn hills rivalry okay a lot of uh similar humans okay a lot of similar humans a little bit different a lot of attack like very similar style they border they border very close to each other okay so this is a they basically lived in pen hills this is a rivalry yes exactly this is a rivalry pen hills has always been

Speaker 1 better in pawn pen hills is always

Speaker 1 at football at football. Every other thing, we got him.
Every other thing, we got him. Football, though,

Speaker 1 they certainly had us

Speaker 1 together to play. Austin Plum needs a win at home.
How you doing? Well, Austin

Speaker 1 Colonkowski.

Speaker 1 Colon Kowski. Austin Colonkowski, section one soccer player of the year.
Has his field goal blocked. The wherewithal.
He picks it up. Is it going to get tackled? I don't think so.

Speaker 1 Strong soccer player, kicker, survives 15 yards

Speaker 1 after contact, scores a touchdown because the boys rally. Plum's going to the playoffs.
And Austin Kolankoski, the player of the year in Section 1, Class 4A, is obviously an absolute dog.

Speaker 1 I believe the Plum soccer team is currently on a playoff run. And now, because of that, the Plum football team is also on a playoff run.
They're going to go to USC. Okay, that's going to be tall down.

Speaker 1 Hold on, Sean. Is that a good squad, too? Oh, they're pretty good.
Yeah, they're a pretty good team. You know, Sean Lee.
We're not worried about nothing.

Speaker 1 We're not worried about nothing.

Speaker 1 We're going to give Austin Kolankowski the ball. We should think about maybe giving Austin Kolankowski the ball.
And

Speaker 1 Johnny Naunenberg spinning it. The boys are ready for the moment.
Congrats to Plum. Getting a miraculous win here.
Blocked kick. Tush push.
Kicker picks it up. Go ahead.
Let me grab this.

Speaker 1 Penn Hill's guy has him immediately. That's illegal.

Speaker 1 What's illegal, dude?

Speaker 1 Being too strong.

Speaker 1 Being too strong. Stay rugby.

Speaker 1 We're not going to get into that.

Speaker 1 Shout out to high school football showing up. And number two headline coming out of the weekend in our eyes is we're running it back, back, back, back, back, back, back to the 80s.
Nice. Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 Running backs are leading the top teams in the league. Jonathan Taylor with the Indianapolis Colts, absolutely insane.
James Cook, obviously absurd with the Bills. And guess who's back?

Speaker 1 Back, back, back, back. Back again.
Saquon Barkley had his day yesterday. A.J.
Brown not playing because of a hamstring injury.

Speaker 1 And against the New York Giants, obviously massive rivalry in the beautiful Kelly Green uniforms, which the Philadelphia Eagles are undefeated in. Saquon Barkley found his groove.

Speaker 1 Saquon got all the way back to who he was last year whenever he led them to a Super Bowl and the offensive line, same damn thing.

Speaker 1 Jalen Hurts obviously under center a bit more is the stats that you're going to hear from Dan Orlovsky in the second hour because he's been calling for this for a while.

Speaker 1 But it feels like the Eagles might have got their groove back, Debo.

Speaker 3 Yeah, sometimes just take that one big player, that one big game, and definitely Saquon had it. These Kelly Green jerseys are unbelievable.
So clean.

Speaker 3 I believe they moved to 5-0 now while wearing these.

Speaker 1 Not only did he have these jerseys on but he had those sweet lebron cleats on that he uh is gracing the madden cover with a lot of people are saying hey this is a madden curse coming in for 2-6 but hopefully he lifted that curse off of them with this game yeah was some more under the center some extra alignment stuff so love to see it interesting to see how they uh handle the aj brown situation going forward yeah a lot of conversation around that obviously saquan barkley rush yards under center snaps uh this is from himbo weeks one through seven 102 yards week eight alone 116 yards well i mean you know petolo was trying to get his feet up up on her he don't had a lot going on and they uh they started figuring it out and this is an eagles team i think we all understand with the amount of talent that they have that if they do figure it out right back in super bowl conversations even though everybody's trying to bury them all the time and the number one headline coming out of the weekend as we all knew talking about super bowl

Speaker 1 Colts gonna win

Speaker 1 the coach gonna win Super Bowl this is just I think seven out of the eight weeks we've done this first 15 this has been the number one headline strictly because I've been watching every single snap so it's pretty biased program my name's in it I apologize These dudes are unbelievable.

Speaker 1 They don't really have a flaw right now. Honestly, we lose to the Rams.
That's our only loss. And we all understand what happened in that game.
We certainly should have won that.

Speaker 1 Los Angeles Rams took advantage of the situation and definitely won. That guy right there, though, seemingly untackleable.
Okay, he's on pace to break every record there is.

Speaker 1 Four games with three plus touchdowns. Okay, that's just absolutely insanity.
He has more touchdowns than some teams as a whole. And that means the offensive line's back to doing what they're doing.

Speaker 1 And we all saw a screenshot of one of the holes that he had to hit yesterday.

Speaker 1 I mean, there's an actual freight train that is possible to go through the offensive line have taken a lot of pride in what they're doing this year yeah i mean that is

Speaker 1 now granted i'm not saying that jonathan taylor isn't unbelievable and jonathan taylor finds holes that might appear to be this big but if you give jonathan taylor this hole right here i mean yeah we're gonna be okay and that's what saquon was last year with philadelphia it feels like that's what our offense is matching up and danny dimes is putting us in the right situation every time i mean this guy is a super genius and just every throw he's seemingly going to to the right place.

Speaker 1 He very rarely misses. And then Michael Pittman Jr.
has like one of the nicest touchdown catches of all time. I'm down here in the corner, can't see it all.
I see that guy draped over top of him.

Speaker 1 I just flag, thank you. We're about to have first down on the one that's amazing.
And then you hear everybody go crazy. And I turn my back.
No way this dude caught this.

Speaker 1 They showed six highlights of this thing in the stadium immediately. Great work by the stadium operators.
Every angle looked better. Like the first angle was insane.

Speaker 1 Second angle, he's like, that is clearly a one-handed catch that he goes through. Third angle, it's like what his other hand was doing in there.

Speaker 1 It's like this guy is an absolute dog, has been willing to sacrifice his whole body on the field.

Speaker 1 Last year, when the Colts were what they were, which I think everybody in that locker room now would come to grips with maybe they weren't operating like a professional football team in all aspects, especially with what they've been able to do this year.

Speaker 1 It's unbelievable. Pittman, in the middle of that run,

Speaker 1 full dolphin dive in the middle of

Speaker 1 his body gets bent backwards, folded in half, gets off,

Speaker 1 goes back out there, does it again. But this guy will lay his body on the line for us.
Alec Pierce as well. It's just like Tyler Warren is outrageous.

Speaker 1 And then on the defensive side, we got to tighten some things up, of course. Felt like the Titans had some opportunities and we didn't know what they were doing.

Speaker 1 I mean, there was a couple plays where maybe they got Lou, where we had a bad call, and boy, they had a good play call on their side. And Cam Ward was able to make some big time plays.

Speaker 1 But like the Colts are very comfortable with where they're at right now. And I think they're all talking the same way.
They know that they got a lot of shit still to prove.

Speaker 1 And the MVP chants were very real for Jonathan Taylor yesterday, D-Bud.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's unbelievable. The combination of speed, power, vision, like once he gets to that second or third level, just very like Saquon was last year, it can go for a home run at any given time.

Speaker 3 And obviously, it starts with the offensive line, creating those gaps, and then him finding them and then exploiting what happens on the back end.

Speaker 3 And then a lot of people comparing this season to Saquon's. We haven't had a non-QB MVP since 2012, and it was Adrian Peterson.
But his touchdown total already up to 14.

Speaker 3 I think Saquon had 15 a total of all last year. You know, Jalen Hurts stole a bunch of them with the quarterback sneaks, but he is phenomenal.

Speaker 3 28, unbelievable with the long list of great running backs that have played for the organization. He's kind of the next one up.

Speaker 3 And then you talked about Daniel Jones, just complete control of the offense. You saw plenty of time with like less than 12 or 10 seconds on the clock, and he's making some last minute audible.

Speaker 3 And the guys around him, it's like, just take your turn. It's very much like the Green Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 3 Not necessarily that one guy who's going to come in and get 15 targets every Sunday, but Pittman, Pierce, Downs, when it's his turn, Warren, whenever it's his turn. These guys just shows up, and

Speaker 3 Daniel Jones has been doing a great job putting the ball on, just controlling the game in every aspect. Man, I absolutely loving what I'm seeing from this Indianapolis Colts team.

Speaker 5 And one of the things that we were so excited about with Anthony Richardson was the fact that he was mobile.

Speaker 1 If you go back to that photo of the wide open, big gaping hole that JT ran through, like the threat of Danny Dimes being mobile is one thing like even if you look on the right side they're like that guy is moving right because they think hey maybe Dimes has this on a boot maybe he's running the ball and that is you know opening up things even more for JT so like just Danny Dimes being out there is how Shane Steichen obviously with Philadelphia at the beginning this whole thing saw the benefits of Jalen what Halen had which I think is why Anthony Richardson was so enticing for the Indianapolis Colts it's like hey look what Shane was able to do with Jalen Anthony Richardson we should be able to do that not giving up on Anthony Richardson but it certainly didn't click with shane steichen's offense as quick and obviously with the injuries didn't really have that much of an opportunity but danny dimes is a more than suitable runner and i think that was where a lot of people were like are we going anthony richardson or danny dimes who's going to be the starter for this team and they're like well the future of the nfl you got to be able to run it's like hey I understand he looks like he's like maybe a farmer or a banker, depending upon how he's dressed on the day.

Speaker 1 And he doesn't give much reaction, doesn't give much reaction. They put a camera on him.
So they did an in-stadium entertainment. You know, the helmet shuffle.
Sure. I think it's the best one.

Speaker 1 I think the helmet shuffle is the best one.

Speaker 1 There's an overrated, underrated one. Then there's like a celebrity look-alike one where they go around the entire place.
Ba, ba, ba, ba, ba.

Speaker 1 Last one, Indiana Jones pops up and everybody starts getting a sense of what's happening. Offense is on the field.
This is in the middle of the game, second quarter maybe, middle of the game.

Speaker 1 And then they slide it over and there's just a clip, boom, close up on Daniel Jones. Place goes absolutely ape shit for him, right? He looks up for like half a second, sees himself.

Speaker 1 Oh no, head back down, starts like jogging in place, starts like working back. Place is going absolutely ape shit for him.
And he's just like completely locked in, doesn't even acknowledge it.

Speaker 1 You can see there's a little blushing maybe, like a little bit of, this is not like the most comfortable, but right back into the huddle.

Speaker 1 And I think the next play we're off and running, it's like, he's just locked in. I think he's so calloused.
from what happened to him.

Speaker 1 He got his ass beat in New York, both physically and also through the media. This guy stinks.
What a bust. Let alone the hard knock shit.
You get rid of Saquon. Guy goes and has an MVP year.
Why?

Speaker 1 Because we bet on this guy. It's just like like he has been hardened by it all and we are reaping the benefits of it.
And his next contract they're talking about is about to be big.

Speaker 1 Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who is a Michigan man who can certainly help us fill in the gaps on anything that we miss. We appreciate the hell out of him.

Speaker 1 And Overreaction Monday, first 15 regular. Ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL insider for ESPN, Adam Schefter.

Speaker 1 Shefty, how you doing, buddy?

Speaker 6 Oh, that's a beautiful jacket, Pat. Very stylish.
Very stylish.

Speaker 1 Muchos Gracias, this is from nfl mexico obviously uh it feels delightful it's hot as hell in here i am sweating but we will certainly represent and continue to do so uh what did uh what do we need to know coming out of yesterday obviously the scataboo injury was very scary complete dislocation that looked nasty obviously anytime that takes place people don't love it is there any other stories that maybe we didn't hit there uh over the top five headlines uh that you have out of a blowout sunday for the nfl you know as you guys get ready to plan your super bowl parade there's a few things i did want to point out there with going on with Indianapolis.

Speaker 6 Daniel Jones has played six games in which he hasn't turned over the football at all, at all. And Jonathan Taylor is on pace right now for 28 touchdowns this season, which is pretty good.

Speaker 6 28 touchdowns.

Speaker 6 You get 28 touchdowns. You generally should win an MVP.
Ladanian Tomlinson, I think, has the record more than that, but he has to be considered an MVP candidate.

Speaker 6 The issue is, as Debu pointed out, the last 12 MVPs have all been quarterbacks. It's turned into, generally speaking, a quarterback award.

Speaker 6 And I would imagine before the season is through, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Baker Mayfield, some other quarterbacks who will have something to say about whether or not Jonathan Taylor does win the MVP.

Speaker 6 But

Speaker 6 today, on October 27th, Jonathan Taylor is the MVP. Today, absolutely.
The guy's been incredible. He has been speed, power,

Speaker 6 production, everything you'd want.

Speaker 6 But again, let's see if one of these quarterbacks overtakes him for what has become the most valuable quarterback, not the most valuable player award, in the last 12 years.

Speaker 1 His celebration, too, there was a toddler race as one of the breaks. Yeah, I think like three-year-old, maybe three or four-year-olds racing against each other.

Speaker 1 And the little boy that won the race, he did the Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 1 He did the Jonathan Taylor as a celebration. I thought to myself, it's like he has a clean celebration.
Also doable. You know, like the celebration is doable.

Speaker 1 We've all seen people try to attempt the gritty. okay? Gasicki and others,

Speaker 1 okay. And there are certainly people that are great at the gritty.
This one looks great, seemingly can do it as well.

Speaker 1 Everything about him right now is throwing 110, and I think he's capable of doing it all year. Tough guy, had a couple injuries, but before that, literally never missed a game.

Speaker 1 He's all the way back to being exactly who we thought he was. Now, speaking of being all the way back, there's a Thursday night game.
Go ahead, Ty.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Shefty, do you have more information on the Ravens' whole ordeal with basically retroactively changing Lamar's practice status on Friday. Obviously, a lot of people were up in arms about that.

Speaker 4 Are the Ravens going to face some serious repercussions here for how this went down? Or what more do you know about this situation?

Speaker 6 The league is going to conduct interviews this week.

Speaker 6 The Ravens continue to insist that it was an honest mistake in their words and it was an accident and they don't believe that they did anything wrong here.

Speaker 6 Now the league will obviously talk to enough people and make a determination about whether or not a fine is warranted in this particular case.

Speaker 6 I don't think if the league finds wrongdoing that they're going to go more than a fine, but we'll see how this works out.

Speaker 6 This comes obviously at a time in the sports world where there is a lot of attention on injury reports now.

Speaker 6 And I would imagine that you're going to see more and more attention paid to this, that the league is going to be very sensitive to teams reporting accurate, honest injury information as we go along.

Speaker 6 They don't want anything like what's happened here in sports the last week.

Speaker 6 And so I think the penalties could be tied to that. My guess is there'll be a fine.

Speaker 6 The league will do the interviews this week, and they'll make a determination about whether or not there is a basis for a fine or some sort of discipline.

Speaker 1 Okay, and what are your takeaways from the teams that looked like absolute shite yesterday?

Speaker 1 Yesterday, there was a stat that Hembo and ESPN Research gave us, like, that was the least amount of one-score games since 1970 or something from an NFL Sunday.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's like it was a historically, legitimately, historically terrible day of football.

Speaker 1 Now, if you're on a winning team, you feel good. Bad teams obviously feel absolutely terrible.
What is your thoughts on how yesterday went?

Speaker 1 What are some teams that maybe shouldn't be as maybe moody with their teams as they probably are after a blowout or a shellacking, if you will? Well,

Speaker 6 again, it's interesting because a week ago, everybody's calling for Mike McDaniel to be fired.

Speaker 6 And a week later, they go into Atlanta and beat the Falcons, which who would have imagined imagined that would have happened even with Kirk Cousins starting at quarterback?

Speaker 6 The Cincinnati Bengals have an opportunity to move within a half game of the Pittsburgh Steelers in the AFC North and to make a run in that division.

Speaker 6 They have a 15-point lead in the third quarter, a 14-point lead in the fourth quarter against a Jets team that had yet to win a game against a quarterback that the owner of that team criticized last week.

Speaker 6 And by the way, let me say this. Justin Fields handled the events of last week like a polished professional.

Speaker 6 He should be applauded for the way that he acted, the way that he reacted to what Woody Johnson said about him. He went out yesterday and played a great game.

Speaker 6 He's thrown 167 passes this year and has not thrown an interception. Only quarterback not to do that.
He's got the lowest interception rate in the league.

Speaker 6 I know he's only thrown it 167 times, but that's the 167 passes.

Speaker 6 And it comes in a week again where he got got thrown under the bus by his own owner, where the owner acted like some young, inexperienced player who was not used to dealing with the media. He did.

Speaker 6 And the player acted like a polished, successful, seasoned, experienced owner.

Speaker 1 Successful.

Speaker 6 And then the player goes out and leads this team to its first win of the season. It was very impressive to see.
And I think Justin Fields deserves a lot of credit.

Speaker 6 And then, you know, you flip it around like, and the Bengals,

Speaker 6 they lose Joe Burrow in that game earlier in the year, and they'll always remember that, but they're going to remember that loss yesterday because they had a chance to close the gap in the AC North and let that get away.

Speaker 1 A YouTube TV commercial running right now is hilarious,

Speaker 1 especially with everything that happened over the weekend. But Sunday Ticket

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Speaker 1 When the quad boxes all have blowouts, all have blowouts.

Speaker 1 It's like, wait, do I got to change my multi? Let me change my multi here. Nope.
Put six more in that bad boy. We got bad things all over the place.
But you're right.

Speaker 1 The Bengals having a situation there, which leads to,

Speaker 1 because Trey Hendrickson's always going to be talked about. Go ahead, Tone.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Chefty, we are basically one week away from the NFL trade deadline. It kind of feels like things have cooled off since that one week where we had a ton.

Speaker 2 Besides just asking you about like random people, do you have any teams or names specifically that you think we should be watching?

Speaker 6 Well, I think that there'll be a wide receiver move or two made before the deadline.

Speaker 6 Everybody's been calling the Saints, checking in there. Rashid, Shaheed, Chris Olave.
They're not going to get rid of Chris Olave. They want him.
Brandon Cooks.

Speaker 6 I think at least one of those wide receivers gets traded here in the next eight days. The teams calling the Miami Dolphins about Bradley Chubb, Jalen Phillips.

Speaker 6 Won't be a surprise if at least one of those players gets traded here in the next eight days.

Speaker 6 Dolphins on a short week this week, so it might be tough to make a move this week, but then would be ideal timing after a Thursday night game to see if they can make a move after that.

Speaker 6 So this could be the last game for a Dolphin or two on Thursday night against the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 1 Buying, selling. There's a team.
Go ahead, Connor.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Shefty. What about teams like the Patriots who maybe came into the year, you know, not expecting much, but have, you know, come alive pretty quick?

Speaker 6 And then teams also like the Vikings who have kind of had a disappointing start, and they have a couple players that are young and need to be paid and you know they might not have enough to go around for everybody what about those types of situations well the patriots are very interesting to me because to me they're a little bit like the commanders were last year there were not a lot of people expecting washington to be in the spot that it was and because they had won and because they had been so successful they went out and then traded for marshawn lattimore at the deadline and i i could see the patriots making a move here whether it's for a defensive back whether it's for for another running back for a little bit of running back depth, whether it's for another wide receiver, although those wide receivers are playing really well right now.

Speaker 6 I could see New England saying, hey, we're in this great spot right now. We got a chance to beat Buffalo for the division.
We got a chance to host a home playoff game. A lot of excitement.

Speaker 6 Drake May is lighting it up right now. By the way, he actually also is in the MVP conversation right now

Speaker 6 with the way that he's played so far. And yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if New England made a move here before the deadline.

Speaker 1 That would be fun to see for Connor and all the mass holes who obviously know what great ball looks like. And Connor, since day one of watching Drake May, said, this guy's a guy, this guy's a guy.

Speaker 1 Even whenever all hell was seemingly breaking loose around him and the sky was on fire and everything like that, Drake has always been good.

Speaker 1 If you ask the Patriots fans, now with Vraves, if you're in McDaniels, it's like he's getting everything that he can possibly do out of them.

Speaker 1 And also, they got a team around him and they're making smart decisions. Are the Patriots all the way back? And then they make a big time trade.
Do you guys still have cap?

Speaker 1 You guys still have money, I suppose?

Speaker 5 I think we have the second most money right now or the first. I forget.

Speaker 1 Oh, they can make a big.

Speaker 1 Any big fish out there? Hey.

Speaker 9 Hey, you know what?

Speaker 6 We used to get regular playoff matchups between the Patriots and Cults.

Speaker 1 Big fat.

Speaker 6 Could you see another one this year?

Speaker 6 Patriots and Colts again. That would be pretty cool, huh?

Speaker 1 I was in a couple of those when I didn't know what I was doing. It would have been cool to be good at my job when those moments were happening.

Speaker 1 You know, those ones I was just hanging on for dear life out there. You know, like, don't hit a shank here.
Everybody else is really good. You are not that great.
Let's not be the reason.

Speaker 3 I was in the fourth and two game as a rookie. I felt honestly like legit the one time in my career where I felt like I was just like an extra in the movie.
Like I had no control.

Speaker 3 I'm lined up across like, all right, I got Reggie Wayne and Peyton's looking at me, fucking making checks.

Speaker 1 I'm like, oh, I don't know what we're doing.

Speaker 1 You're one of the only ones that's been on both sides right yeah yeah yeah it's been a yeah it's been a few of us if it means anything i was standing on the sideline there like this thinking i was in a movie yeah this is stupid

Speaker 1 i got no control over anything that's about to happen but boy we're about to have a good time tonight melvin bullet makes a big time play cute payton goes crazy the colts win what a time to be alive i had no idea what i was doing it was uh it was a good time it was great yeah colts patriots seemingly all the way back speaking of back let's talk a little quarterbacks go ahead yeah debuzz yeah chef give us a little lay of the land with the quarterback injuries that are out there.

Speaker 3 I know Bryce Young, Jaden Daniels, obviously missing. Tonight again, Michael Pennix Jr.

Speaker 3 Who else we got? We saw Joe Burrow with no boots. Any update? Purdy, Brock Purdy, have you got any updates with the quarterback landscape around the NFL?

Speaker 6 Well, I think the guys that I feel pretty confident will be back this week, Lamar Jackson, Thursday night in Miami. I think we see him back this week.

Speaker 6 JJ McCarthy, I think we see him back this week against the Detroit Lions. I think we see Kyler Murray on Monday night.
And then you raised a few of the other guys, right?

Speaker 6 Bryce Young, Carolina, ankle injury could be back. We'll see.
Brock Purdy could be back. We'll see.
Kyle Shannon is going to talk to the media later today.

Speaker 6 There always seems to be some sort of injury news to the 49ers that you don't expect in the afternoon on a Monday after a game.

Speaker 6 We'll see what happens today with that.

Speaker 6 Brock Purdy could be back for them. There was another quarterback you mentioned, aside from those three and Bryce Young and Brock Purdy.

Speaker 1 Joe Burrow.

Speaker 6 Jaden Daniels,

Speaker 6 they they play Sunday night against the Seattle Seahawks, and I just think a guy that's had a knee injury and a hamstring injury and some injury issues, hamstrings, you got to be really careful with them.

Speaker 6 Look at how careful Lamar has been. I won't be surprised if we don't see Jaden again on Sunday night.

Speaker 1 The hamstring is like once it happens, right? Doesn't that kind of become like a thing people get scared about?

Speaker 3 You got to give it time to heal.

Speaker 3 And, you know, obviously players and coaches aren't trying to do that in the middle of the season, especially in a situation like the Ravens, like you want your star quarterback back.

Speaker 3 That was kind of the conversation outside of that building, too, where the Ravens trying to almost force Lamar to get in there. So interesting.

Speaker 1 Well, that's why they put full participation

Speaker 1 to kind of put a little public pressure on. But that's just, you know, yeah, there's conspiracies for everything, obviously, and the NFL is going to get into it.

Speaker 1 And I assume they will try to set a precedent on misrepresenting somebody's health status, especially in this gambling world that we're in, which is really starting.

Speaker 1 Do you hear about the country of Turkey? Oh, boy.

Speaker 1 Okay, we're too close to Thanksgiving to be talking about Turkey already, but whatever you're talking about, the country of Turkey, there's some crazy scandal. Let's talk about tonight.

Speaker 1 We talked about commanders. 10.5-point dogs now at the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 1 Any injury news that we need to think about before we make our picks this evening, Shefty, or any other storylines we should be thinking about?

Speaker 6 Well, obviously, Terry McLaurin, Debo Samuel, both back for Washington. Marcus Mariota steps in and starts for Jaden Daniels.

Speaker 6 And again, I think, you know, we're used to seeing backup quarterbacks do well, and maybe Marcus won't tonight, but he's one there in the playoffs.

Speaker 6 He beat Alex Smith in a playoff game and I can tell you that I think the organization is confident in Mariota they feel like he is more than capable of stepping in and playing a good game we'll see if he can do that tonight on the other side of the football obviously Rashi Rice back for another week Kareem Hunt is off the injury report they've wanted to get Brashard Smith their rookie running back more involved we'll see if that happens tonight and they're still missing their left tackle Josh Simmons but there's a feeling that he could be back here now in Kansas City in a couple of weeks, which is encouraging, dealing with some personal issues there.

Speaker 6 But it sounds like he will be back here in fairly short order, which is great news.

Speaker 1 Pretty cool that it's just expected Taylor's going to be there and it's not breaking news. Good for them.
Hey,

Speaker 1 good for them. Good spot.
That's awesome. All right, Chefty, we appreciate the hell out of you, man.
Good luck tonight from your office.

Speaker 6 Enjoy the game tonight, guys. Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 What do you think? You think the shite weekend continues tonight or no?

Speaker 6 I hope not.

Speaker 6 I hope we get a good game. I hope we get a good game.

Speaker 1 I think we have a chance.

Speaker 1 uh yeah me too i i think it may be a little bit closer to build a but kansas city's a juggernaut right now they're better than they ever been but on that note as soon as you said you think that it's going to be a good game talks table just gave a full

Speaker 1 i don't i hope it is

Speaker 1 you're the man ladies and gentlemen adam shaft we all hope it is amen

Speaker 1 hey man hey man you know i think i'm getting older these games are getting later it feels like oh that's for sure hey i'm watching these games

Speaker 1 wow today's been a pretty shitty day of football. This one's going to get real good tonight, though.
Then I'm watching Boz just murder Balls. I'm like, yeah, Boswell.

Speaker 1 Chris Bozwe will keep me awake tonight. Yes, he will.
He's hitting dingers every single time. He's like, damn, Dodgers.
Now, granted, hold on. World Series game tonight, right? Yes.

Speaker 1 Game three tonight. Game three tonight.

Speaker 1 We got Dodgers came back one game two. Correct.
Blue Jays won game one. Yep.
They in decisive. Correct.
They beat the hell out of Dodgers.

Speaker 4 11-4. Yeah, had the first pinch-hit Grand slam in the history of the World Series.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I've been watching these games. Yeah.
It's been good. You know the reason why I'm watching? And people are going to hate me for this, but I grew up in Pittsburgh, so get off my ass.

Speaker 1 I used to like the Yankees because the Yankees spent more money on everybody. And I like, you know what?

Speaker 1 If you're allowed to kind of just spend more on everybody, I like that the Yankees are doing that.

Speaker 1 Now what I'm realizing is, with all the star power that the Dodgers have, I like them because they're the new Yankees.

Speaker 1 They spend more money on everybody.

Speaker 1 And I think I enjoy that. Now, a lot of people hate hate that, I think, in the baseball.
Certainly. But I am watching because I want to see

Speaker 1 the big money boys. I want to see the big money boys kind of see if they can show up in a big moment.
And they did. A lot of people are saying this is not going back to Toronto.

Speaker 1 They think this is Dodgers kind of opened it up. It's going to be over now.

Speaker 5 I mean, we'll see.

Speaker 4 If you're a Dodgers fan, that's kind of the whole idea is, hey, this team's so deep that just like over a

Speaker 4 seven-game series, like it's impossible to sustain what the Blue Jays did in game one.

Speaker 4 But that's why the Blue Jays are such a tough out because they don't have any of these like massive superstars outside of Vladdie, maybe, but they just like that first game, I mean, we see what the Dodgers did here, and they had to win.

Speaker 4 You know, Yamamoto, once again, through a complete game, and like he's just been unbelievable, and he's one of those guys, like that's why you pay $325 million.

Speaker 4 That's why you go get the best guys because they have an impact when it matters most.

Speaker 4 But like the Blue Jays, you're just, they're tough to kill because they got a bunch of these guys who maybe, I mean, it's obviously different in the majors, but like casual fans don't respect them, don't know the guys' names, and that's all they do is single, single, single.

Speaker 4 And then some guy shows up massive and hits a homer when a couple guys are on base.

Speaker 4 And the Dodgers, the big thing with them the whole time has been, hey, if you can get to their bullpen, that's where they're susceptible.

Speaker 4 Like when Yamamoto throws a complete game, that completely eliminates them.

Speaker 1 Good aces spend a lot of money. Exactly.
Not a lot of depth.

Speaker 2 And tonight we got

Speaker 2 Max Scherzer, who is, you know, just a perennial playoff.

Speaker 5 Mad Max making

Speaker 4 the fourth start for the fourth different team in the World Series, which is 41 years old starting in the World Series.

Speaker 1 Congrats to him. What a marvel that is.
And it should not be played on a Monday. It's football season.
Move this shit to tomorrow. Okay?

Speaker 1 I'm done with it. There's only two teams left, right? Yes, correct.
Move it to tomorrow. Well, it's 23-0.

Speaker 3 I'll wait.

Speaker 1 It's been a shite weekend. Hold on.
Shout out to the World Series tonight. Shout out to the World Series tonight.

Speaker 4 I would say tonight would be a decent one if you want to put the two box up there because you can just have football on and then just kind of monitor in silence what's going on in that in the baseball.

Speaker 1 I've been watching the baseball though. I would like to say thank you to the baseball.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 It's been fun. Would like it to be tomorrow though.
It would be cool if it was tomorrow. But if tonight's a blowout, baseball guard our backs.
I appreciate that. Basketball is happening as well.

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Speaker 1 Football! It's absolutely magical. We're lucky to talk about it every single day.

Speaker 1 NFL Mexico gave me this jacket. and

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Football is a beautiful thing. Bringing together countries.
Oh, yeah. Bringing together people.

Speaker 1 Bringing together teams of people that will beat the hell out of another team in week eight of the NFL season.

Speaker 1 It has been a shite slate thus far. And tonight, the Washington Commanders, led by Marcus Mariota, will travel to the kingdom and take on the Kansas City Chiefs as 10 and a half point dogs.

Speaker 1 Could this be yet another

Speaker 1 blowout

Speaker 1 for the NFL to have to put their PR machine on? I will appreciate the hell out of whatever stat comes out of the NFL on Tuesday or Wednesday if this is a blowout.

Speaker 1 You never know what you're going to get with the NFL.

Speaker 1 This is the first time since Baba Ba, and that's real, by the way.

Speaker 1 I think it was an eye-opening experience for a lot of fan bases yesterday, but also maybe a little bit of optimism grabbed by some of these teams that although you maybe thought you were okay, maybe just good, maybe yesterday you found out you're maybe great.

Speaker 1 Holy hell, you can pound another football team if you have to.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of hope that you can pull from yesterday and there's a lot of misery that people are certainly grasping on to after getting blown out the toxic tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt one out of the hammer

Speaker 1 cowboys ap tone is here Good night for Steelers last night. Everybody loved those uniforms

Speaker 1 Don't understand why they did those

Speaker 1 Hey, we got Sunday night football Aaron Rodgers play the Packers. Let's dress like assholes

Speaker 1 What happened Donner? Hey, did anybody see those things before they went on? I did.

Speaker 2 I did. I tried to warn everybody last week.
I said, this is going to be horrendous.

Speaker 1 There's no way you could have described these things showing up to my eyes.

Speaker 2 I said all the yellow, it's going to be horrendous. It's up there against the Chargers' uniforms for the worst uniforms in the NFL this season.
Yellow is just a horrendous color, but you know what?

Speaker 3 They looked incredible for a half, and the boys were buzzing.

Speaker 1 So you're going to spin that there was a good uniform, actually, if they get the win last night.

Speaker 1 Because I started thinking that when I first saw them come on TV and on my algorithm and everything everything as they were debuting on entrances, I was like, wow,

Speaker 1 those are absolute trash. I cannot believe you would put those in for the Sunday night football

Speaker 1 Steelers, Packers, Jordan Love, Aaron Rodgers game. Almost sabotaged, trying to sabotage the game, putting these uniforms out there.
I wasn't happy.

Speaker 1 Then as the game continued to roll on, you're like, okay, they are ass, but yeah, maybe if they win, it's not that big of a deal.

Speaker 1 And then as it starts unraveling, it's like, man, ass unis, tough night, big loss, and a reminiscent moment for Steelers fans saying, we can't win the Super Bowl, which is what you guys did last night.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 you just physically can't tackle in those uniforms. That's that's my big takeaway.

Speaker 2 Like, if they were wearing, you know, the throwback, uh, the black with the white block letters, you know, that would have been probably, you know, a much better performance, or, you know, the black with the yellow, the color rush.

Speaker 2 But those ones, they were just behind the eight ball from the start.

Speaker 1 Well, it's hard to tackle a guy that grew up on

Speaker 4 the Cheyenne

Speaker 4 reservation there in South Dakota. It's a really long name.
It's multiple names. I don't want to just spit those out there and get them wrong.

Speaker 5 I should have looked.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry. Did he tell me about Tucker Craft a little bit? He did grow up on a Native American reservation.

Speaker 4 Yeah, in South Dakota.

Speaker 1 I believe he got named like an honorary.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's an honorary member of the tribe for acts of community service that he did within the reservation and with the people that lived there with him.

Speaker 1 And he's untackleable. Now you're an NFL vet, Darius J.
Butler. Think about that.
What a story the NFL has now out of a guy from Dakota out in the middle of a reservoir.

Speaker 3 Another very important tidbit on Tucker Craft. He said after the game that the program is one of his favorite movies.
And any guy, any young player that loves the program, he's good with me.

Speaker 3 So yeah, he's automatically one of my favorite tight ends.

Speaker 3 He plays pissed off. Oh, was that a headbutt?

Speaker 3 Without boom. Yeah.
There we go. A little ladder.

Speaker 1 First team, deep fist. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Love that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's who he referenced for the program conversation when he was asked, hey, did you headbutt somebody without a helmet on? Absolutely. You ever see the program? Just went right into it.

Speaker 1 And he didn't even blink there. Like, that would just at least startle you a little bit.
And he actually wanted he went for it a little bit harder, actually.

Speaker 1 And it's those types of block heads that can really scare you.

Speaker 1 You know, if there's no fear of any brain damage happening whenever you're slamming it off of a helmet that is made to protect and inflict other things, you got to think this guy is maybe unbreakable.

Speaker 1 Now, on that note, we see another large head like this

Speaker 1 on a daily basis. Yeah, we do.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner, and an owner of one of the densest craniums in the history of mankind.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk.

Speaker 1 AJ,

Speaker 1 as a Green Bay Packer

Speaker 1 legend, all-time leading tackler there, when you see somebody, or should I say something like Tucker Craft

Speaker 1 do what he does. What is your thoughts on this team and this huge win on Sunday night in Pittsburgh, AJ?

Speaker 9 I mean, Tucker Kraft is awesome. I mean, this is he's awesome before even his headbutton dudes with no helmet on.
But that little tidbit about the program, that really puts it over the top for me.

Speaker 9 I mean, I'm 41 years old. The fact that Tucker Kraft even knows what the program is, let alone it's his favorite movie, tells you a lot of what you need to know about this guy.

Speaker 9 Obviously, freakishly athletic, I think, that people don't give him credit for.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and Nashville Tight Ends Day, so I think he showed up like he had to represent. And they talk about no number ones.
There's no number ones there for Green Bay.

Speaker 1 There never has been, really, right? I mean, that's kind of been the storyline. Now Golden gets drafted in the first round, and obviously Watson's back, but they share the wealth out there.

Speaker 1 It feels like Jordan Love is just going wherever he needs to go for the best possible outcome. They talk about turnovers with Jordan Love, and, you know, a little bit gunslinger.

Speaker 1 He certainly had a couple of those plays as well. There's a little Jordan Love experience that goes alongside.
Jordan Love playing football, but I think that's a good thing, not a bad thing.

Speaker 1 You think the Packers can go on a run after what you saw last night against this Pittsburgh Steelers team?

Speaker 9 Yeah, I definitely do. I mean, it's got to figure out, and you've got to make sure you're all healthy at the right time and you're playing well at the end.

Speaker 9 We know it's a long season, but I like that gunslinger mentality that Jordan Love has. I like that he's not scared to push the ball down the field.

Speaker 9 Like, he's definitely not dinking his dunking the way down to these touchdowns.

Speaker 9 So it maybe helps him a little bit not having a bona fide number one that you feel like pressured to push the ball to because he truly has so many weapons out there.

Speaker 9 And, man, Tucker Kraft really is separating himself, I think, as a tight end.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Tyler Warren, obviously a good conversation, but you talk about like Josh Allen. Josh Allen doesn't have any number ones.
He just tries to make the best absolute play.

Speaker 1 He frees up the quarterback a lot. Danny Dimes here in Indianapolis, similar situation, kind of free up the quarterback a good bit.

Speaker 1 Now, when it comes to the Green Bay Packers to win a Super Bowl, do you guys run the ball stop the run tie?

Speaker 4 I mean, that is the one thing that they kind of need to get going is Josh Jacobs. He's got a lot of touchdowns, but they haven't had the same success on the ground this year that they did last year.

Speaker 4 Because early on, like, you remember when Love was banged up and they were playing with Malik, Malik, you know,

Speaker 4 they ran the ball very effectively. And then, yeah, I think their defense has been very solid.

Speaker 4 Like they've been better stopping the run this year than any years, you know, in the last 10 that I can remember off the top of my head.

Speaker 1 Okay, who's great in the NFC, Conman? We got, obviously, the Eagles are back to being the Eagles.

Speaker 1 Bucs have a close one. Yeah.
Bucks, Bucs, obviously, defense does what they got to do.

Speaker 1 Packers in that conversation, I believe.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I don't know if I'd put them in that conversation yet just because we don't even know if they're going to win their division.

Speaker 5 Like, the Lions are, they were on the bye, so we're just kind of like, forget about it. Forget the Lions, yeah.

Speaker 1 And the Bears. Well, we're not forget the Lions.

Speaker 1 Certainly.

Speaker 1 Out of sight, out of mind. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 It's one of those things, like, when your team's on the bye, you do. You just naturally forget about it.
Like, even the Rams, you know,

Speaker 1 I'd put the Rams up there

Speaker 5 above the Packers just at this moment.

Speaker 1 Oh, the Seahawks. I'm not going that far, but Rams, for sure.

Speaker 5 I think the Rams, as far as like complete teams, you just mentioned stopping the run and running the ball. The Rams can do all that, and they have Matt Stafford still.

Speaker 1 Hey, how about the Packers, though, up there? Hell yeah. Plus 700 Super Bowl odds, especially after having a big win last night with Brett Michaels on a mic.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 He killed it, by the way.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I think watching.

Speaker 9 All reports I got, you guys got reports in the stadium, right? I got many reports from the stadium.

Speaker 1 These reports, yeah.

Speaker 9 Absolute electric the whole time.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 1 It might have been sitting in different spots because we got messages from different situations in the stadium. Higher upset weren't able to hear every word Brett Michaels was saying.

Speaker 1 Obviously, that's a little bit of a letdown. I can see the greatness.
I can't hear the greatest.

Speaker 9 Where's the stage here, though? Where's the stage?

Speaker 2 They normally do it behind the one end zone.

Speaker 2 Last time I was there when they did a concert, it was Wiz.

Speaker 2 It was behind the one end zone where the entrance is.

Speaker 1 The world is the stage for Brett Michaels, but in this particular night, I think they do have him on a little bit of a platform. I think that's a little bit of a tough look air as well.

Speaker 1 But nonetheless, Brett Michaels brings it, and we appreciate him bringing it. He was holding that terrible towel like this, too.
His shoulder and trap game was very impressive.

Speaker 2 That's all he does all day, every day.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're very proud of Brett Michaels making it to the big show, you know. And Brett Michaels has been doing a lot of good things for a lot of people for a long time.

Speaker 1 And the fact that Ty said that he was the reason why the

Speaker 4 I saw a lot of that out there. I didn't, I listen, I love Brett Michaels.
I didn't specifically say that.

Speaker 4 A lot of people were saying, wow, the game really turned on its head when after Brett Michaels performed at halftime.

Speaker 1 Everyone

Speaker 1 has its thorn.

Speaker 9 It's got some hits.

Speaker 1 Just like

Speaker 1 every night

Speaker 1 has its gone.

Speaker 9 Hopefully he didn't play. This would be a tough one to play for a stadium full of football fan.

Speaker 1 Every cowboy single sad, sad song.

Speaker 1 Everybody knows the rose

Speaker 1 has thorns.

Speaker 1 You kind of got a little bit of a broken.

Speaker 1 Did you see the pool report

Speaker 2 for the referee after the game? Everyone saw where, you know, Aaron drew Parsons offside, I believe.

Speaker 1 I can't remember, Devontae Wyatt is next to him.

Speaker 2 The referee said he was still so memorized from the concert at halftime. That's why they missed the offsides caller.

Speaker 1 Oh, he was hypnotized by Brett Michaels. Well, every rose has its thorn, and the rose is obviously Brett Michaels' performance.
The thorn is that you can get hypnotized in the greatness out there.

Speaker 1 And the Pittsburgh Steelers might have done that. Let's talk about some refs, okay?

Speaker 1 Let's talk about a situation that's been brewing, okay? Every time they run the play, they cheat. Oh, man.
Every time they run the play, they jump off sides. Nobody ever calls it.

Speaker 1 It's a point of emphasis. Hey, can't be doing it.
Everybody's got to be online scrimmage. We've got to make sure we're not jumping off sides.
You're calling on everybody else.

Speaker 1 You're not calling on Philadelphia Eagles. And then yesterday?

Speaker 1 Yesterday? Or as Dan Rolofsky says, yes. Today,

Speaker 1 this was egregious. Now, the original tweet that hit the internet that everybody saw said the whistle was blown early.
Whistle was never blown. They just actually went back.
Whistle wasn't blown.

Speaker 1 Whistle wasn't blown until Thibodeau had the ball in his hand. So, like, whistle is not blown until like right there.
Yeah. After he has the ball.

Speaker 1 you know wow yeah so the they said it was a stop of forward progress which is why they called it but he's the one lunging forward so what we think happened is that the refs actually thought that was a goal line yes and it was like nope that's a touchdown go ahead and just keep it moving and we've heard a lot of like new york expedited review dropping into people's ears saying hey, this ain't right, this ain't right.

Speaker 1 We can fix this. They didn't do that here.
So now everybody's saying Philadelphia Eagles are on a take. This is

Speaker 1 exactly what we've been saying about the tush push. And it's going to continue to get real loud, especially as these plays continue to happen.
Now, did this ultimately decide the game?

Speaker 1 No, but it even happening, AJ. I think people are like, this can't be real life, especially with all the conversation around it already.

Speaker 9 No, I thought this was a fumble for sure, but you knew they weren't going to be able to change it because of how they do the stupid rules and whatever.

Speaker 9 They say that the whistle was blown, even though it wasn't. Now, even if, like, okay, the whistle was not blown.
They said it was.

Speaker 9 The refs know going forward, do not, like, let's wait a beat before we blow the whistle. Like, this can happen.
This is a real-life situation.

Speaker 9 Like, I hope they know going forward that a point of emphasis should be to not blow the whistle until he truly is stopped, even if he has the ball like this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just when it's in the field of play, call it as a football play. Yeah, like, I think that's the last thing to be told.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I genuinely think he was viewing it like it was the end zone. Like, up Tush Bush, we know what this is about.
Yep, he did it again.

Speaker 1 He did it again. 92% or whatever they call it.
And obviously, this gets very loud, especially from Giants fans who are in the same division.

Speaker 1 What are we supposed to do with everything going on? They got this going on. Is that not your exact reaction, Bruce Brune?

Speaker 15 Yeah, it's an absolute farce. They can't enforce the false starts that happen basically every other time they run it.

Speaker 15 And now this, he's reaching forward in the same motion that Thibodeau takes it, and they say his forward progress has stopped. Absolute joke, man.

Speaker 10 It's a travesty.

Speaker 1 Now, that's a Giants fan. It's over Reaction Monday, but he's not the only one that feels that way.
Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who has traveled to Kansas City.

Speaker 1 We do not believe he's on the call, but we know he's going to be live for Monday Night Football. Ladies and gentlemen, the quarterback and NFL guru for ESPN, Dan Orlovsky.
Dan O!

Speaker 1 Dan O! Dan O! Dan O! Dan O!

Speaker 1 Thanks for joining us, Dan, from the back of a very nice SUV, it appears.

Speaker 1 We were just chit-chatting about the tush-push there, about the call yesterday, and the egregiousness of it all. And obviously, Philadelphia gets back on track doing their thing.

Speaker 1 Obviously, terrible injury to Scataboo and this. And I think we all believe in the Giants, though, right? Don't we all kind of believe in the Giants going forward? Forward direction, for sure.

Speaker 1 I think we all believe in the Giants going forward, but also the Philadelphia Eagles got back to who we think they are with Saquon Barkley going absolutely crazy and then this taking place.

Speaker 1 Your kind of takeaway, not only on this play, but the Eagles yesterday as a whole, Dan Orlofsky.

Speaker 8 Well, on this play, the NFL's lucky lucky that it doesn't really have an impact on the game because if it did, there would be massive uproar.

Speaker 8 I've never really had a passionate take or feeling on either side of the whole tush-push thing, but after watching this, I'm out on it.

Speaker 8 I kind of respect it and appreciate for everything that it's, you know, been accomplished and whatnot, but we can't have this play in football where it's a clear and obvious fumble to every human being that has ever watched a game, but for some reason in a whistle and whatnot,

Speaker 8 it's just a play right now that I think is impossible for officials to defend fairly, I guess, or equally. So

Speaker 8 this play for me has got to be one that we move away from.

Speaker 1 Oh, well,

Speaker 1 okay, Dan. All right, then.
Dan doesn't want a football play to happen. What if they ref it correctly, though?

Speaker 9 What if the refs start calling it?

Speaker 8 That's the thing. It's the way it's officiated.

Speaker 8 I don't know if you can, AJ. I don't know.
I don't know since it's such a unique play if you can.

Speaker 1 I was just overreacting because that's what you hear from Johns and Super Duper football people saying, if everybody can do this and it's an easy play, why didn't everybody do this?

Speaker 1 And it's an easy play. This is a skill that we have.

Speaker 1 And then now, with all the super duper slowdown, it's like, well, the skill is also kind of cheating a little bit and the refs not being able to call it. Not that that's the Eagles' fault.

Speaker 1 The Eagles can do whatever the hell they want. They ran it four straight times, prime time TV.
You don't like it? Watch it. Here it is, even more.
They got to do what they got to do to win a game.

Speaker 1 They did that.

Speaker 1 Let's talk about tonight's game that you're on your way to commanders taking on the kansas city chiefs you know a lot of blowouts yesterday do you forecast another one this evening or do you think marcus mariota cliff kingsbury and the commanders are going to be able to keep this one a battle and maybe even win this thing dano maybe even beat the chiefs on monday night no i expect this to be one-sided a kansas washington defensively keep patrick under 350 yards this is a Washington defense that has just really struggled, and Kansas City has absolutely hit a stride offensively in the last month or so.

Speaker 8 The addition of the two receivers has been absolutely tremendous. But the real thing is some of like their schematic changes.
There's a lot that they throw at you right now.

Speaker 8 They protect Patrick and it's, hey, if the shot's there, great. If not, go run around and make a play because we've given you time to go create.

Speaker 8 You see some of their four by one formations that when they get in those four by one formations, there are so many different options that they can get to offensively.

Speaker 8 Rashi, one-on-one, the speed of Xavier Worthy, Hollywood down in the red zone, their willingness to run the football.

Speaker 8 It has not been ridiculous, the run game, but just the ability to run it and be efficient and have the willingness to do it. I just don't believe that Washington can match up.

Speaker 8 Dorren's Armstrong was Washington's really best pass rusher so far this year. He's out.
They're struggling in coverage mightily. They're struggling to get pressure.

Speaker 8 If Kansas City plays up to their game, this should be a 35-plus point game for their offense.

Speaker 1 That would not be good for the NFL. First time since 1970 or second time since 1970 where only one game was decided by one score or less.
Yeah, here it is. One game decided by single digits on Sunday.

Speaker 1 Jets and Bengals. That's since 1970.
Shout out to ESPN Research and Hembo. And maybe tonight just makes it a full clean sweep on its entirety.
Go ahead, AJ.

Speaker 9 Yeah, Dano, the Packers, obviously, last night looked very good against the Pittsburgh Series. Jordan Love, when you watch him play, are you seeing, like, he looked pretty damn good last night.

Speaker 8 what do you see when you watch him progress like as a player in this league he seems to me like he is supremely confident I just love that he takes shots down the field and he's not scared yeah if their under center play action game is working you can't stop their offense you just got to hope that you can hold them down in the red zone that's when they're at their best their offensive line has not played great this year so that under center is a big deal and then jordan's just being really great with his decision making this is the guy that has for a couple years now been crushed with his decision making or in many people's eyes that he's been a poor decision-maker.

Speaker 8 His decision-making has been as good as basically any quarterback in football this year. Jordan Loves.

Speaker 8 And then, you know, the way that they use their different personnel,

Speaker 8 you see Tucker Kraft in one-on-one situations, the way that they create Daub for situations.

Speaker 8 The check down game for them has been really consistent. You know, the Williams, you they've got a lot of different pieces.
They don't really need a number one receiver.

Speaker 8 Now, let me say this: Christian Watson being back was absolutely enormous. Christian Watson, when he's healthy and impacting their offense, just because of

Speaker 8 size and strength, they don't really have a size, speed, strength guy at the wide receiver spot outside of Christian. So when Christian's there, it's a different offense.

Speaker 8 I love the way that Jordan's been playing this year. I think he's playing the best football of his career.

Speaker 1 Let's go down to Houston, Texas with a huge win for them. It feels like they needed this.
Go ahead, Tone.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Dan, 30 of 39 for 318, I believe is what C.J. Stroud had.

Speaker 2 Would I be wrong in saying this is the best game he looked since probably his rookie season?

Speaker 2 And what do you think was the difference in this game versus the Houston Texans offense for the rest of the year, which

Speaker 2 has had flashes, but not really been great?

Speaker 8 Yeah, 100% that's the best game that CJ has played since 2023. A couple of things.
The two young receivers really stepped up. Noel and Higgins were outstanding.

Speaker 8 And then CJ played, you know, when you guys hear football talk, talk you've all often heard people like me say he played hot right defense brings a blitz sometimes defense brings like a pressure and you know that everybody's one-on-one blocking and we call that playing warm as a quarterback he played warm really well and that doesn't mean that and that's some let me say this that's something that they've he has and they have in houston really struggled with in the last year and a half is like dealing with pressure both by a plan and execution he was sensational yesterday and then the other side side, the flip side of this is you see no Bosa and no Huff show up.

Speaker 8 I mean,

Speaker 8 they could not San Francisco get near CJ. CJ at times had plenty of opportunity to get from the second or third progression.

Speaker 8 So the two young receivers, CJ was outstanding when it came to just playing warm and playing on time. He got through progressions.
And then if you're in San Francisco,

Speaker 8 it's a precursor. Maybe it's a little bit of like a concern warning sign of, God bless, we couldn't get anywhere near the quarterback.

Speaker 1 Let's move away from the AFC South and let's go to the AFC North. Conman has a question for you, Dan.

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah, Dan, out of nowhere, not really out of nowhere, because everyone thought the Ravens were going to be great and they still might have that in front of them. They're currently minus 105

Speaker 5 to win the AFC North, but they're 2-5. You know, the Steelers are 4-3.
The Bengals are 3-4.

Speaker 5 How should we feel about the Ravens, do you think? Lamar coming back, are they going to really start to go now? Derrick Henry, you know, gets in the end zone twice yesterday.

Speaker 5 So do you think the Ravens should be the favorites in the NFC or AFC North? And what should our expectations then be for the Steelers and Bengals in that division?

Speaker 8 Yeah, I still say that Pittsburgh is the favorite. Obviously, last night in the past two weeks, there's conversations around them.
But let me say this about Baltimore.

Speaker 8 It's tough to really gauge offensively. They ran the ball a little bit better.
They got the ball to Zay Flowers. They were creative in some of their play calls down the red zone.

Speaker 8 Bateman won on some one-on-one routes, but yesterday really was about Roquan Smith and Kyle Hamilton.

Speaker 8 Those two guys played so much better, specifically Roquan, than he had at the really beginning of the season.

Speaker 8 Kyle as a blitzer was outstanding. Chicago really didn't have any plan for what pressure was going to look like or how to pick it up.

Speaker 8 So I'm encouraged by the Ravens, but mainly because of the way that the defense and those two defensive stars played. This is a very poor decision.

Speaker 8 Let me talk about this player, right, for Caleb before we end up with the Ravens. See how long it takes from him to, when he gets the top of his drop, to the ball gets out of his hands.

Speaker 1 Ball is out now.

Speaker 8 See, like, see, he's late. So that's when everyone this whole long

Speaker 8 tough season was talking about timing and rhythm.

Speaker 8 I bet you from the time he gets to the top of his drop to that ball comes out of his hands, push it a second. That's way too long.
Ball should be out now.

Speaker 8 So you're probably half a second late, and the ball should go to the flat. So it's an outstanding interception, but that's what gives you concern.

Speaker 8 And that's what I've talked about for the last three or four weeks with Caleb:

Speaker 8 the inconsistency has really been

Speaker 8 prevalent over the last month with his play.

Speaker 8 There's been moments, but inconsistency. But I do think if you're Baltimore, you have to be encouraged by the way the defense played.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's talk about Caleb a little bit more. This is his first time really doing this, Ben thing.
Go ahead.

Speaker 3 So now we're kind of at the mid-season point, and the Bears, they had a nice little winning streak there, got knocked off yesterday.

Speaker 3 But what is kind of your mid-season report card on Caleb Williams and this Ben Johnson relationship?

Speaker 8 I'd give Caleb a C right now if I was giving him a grade. It would be about as average as it could be.

Speaker 8 And there's been moments, you know, where early in the season,

Speaker 8 there was stretches where he looked very good. And then there's been a drive here or there in the last four or five weeks where he's made like a good clutch throw and you feel encouraged.

Speaker 8 But what has been prevalent over the last month or so is one holding on to the football two and this is where I'm most concerned with debut is it's the extreme of playing way too fast or playing way too slow where we haven't found that sweet spot for Caleb yet where sometimes you're so sped up even yesterday there's three or four clips where you know he's so sped up and playing so fast that you you're you're ready to throw the football before the receiver is even remotely close to out of his cut or out of his break or the window is going to be open.

Speaker 8 Or you're playing slow, like on that interception, where you get to the top of your drop and instead of hitching, like he stands flat-footed. Look at him.
He just stops there.

Speaker 8 That's not how that offense is operated. That's not how that pass game, that play-action game is operated.
It is all about the timing of your feet.

Speaker 8 And so I'm not sounding the alarms here, but what I am saying is this last month or so, he's kind of been stuck, and they got to get him to

Speaker 8 consistently play to the right pace with this drop in the timing of their concepts. Because until he does, it's just not

Speaker 8 going to be what it should be offensively.

Speaker 1 We hear what you're saying, you got to get there fast and then take it slow,

Speaker 1 right? That Brett Michael said

Speaker 1 where we want to go

Speaker 1 down

Speaker 1 in Coco's.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're about to finish it.

Speaker 1 Maybe why don't we go to

Speaker 1 We'll get there fast and then we'll take it slowly

Speaker 1 away from Dan. No,

Speaker 1 that's what is that the song?

Speaker 8 Yeah, that's where we're going. I don't think that's the words, no.

Speaker 1 Oh, the original lyrics. I heard it.
Yeah, I heard it in there.

Speaker 1 You're talking about Caleb, you know, maybe rushing through or maybe taking his time. There's other quarterbacks here that out of nowhere in the MVP conversation alongside Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 1 Go ahead, Ty.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Dano, there are a couple guys, specifically Drake May, though. He is doing stuff week in and week out that we've seemingly never seen before or either haven't seen since Tom Brady.

Speaker 4 Are you surprised at how quickly his development has kind of skyrocketed, how good he's got? And also, how far can Drake May take the Patriots playing like this?

Speaker 8 He could absolutely take them to a division title, and I'm not surprised by it. I called a couple of games, his games and college.
He's a tremendous player.

Speaker 8 And I'm not surprised by it also because Josh McDaniels is freaking unreal. I fudging love what's going on in New England.

Speaker 1 I can't say that. Fudging.

Speaker 8 There's so, they're the reverse of pendency. They throw so much at you, dude.

Speaker 8 Connor, I'm sure you watched the game yesterday.

Speaker 8 There's a drive in the third quarter that starts at like 11 minutes, and they throw six or seven straight plays of different personnel, different formations, same motion, but different play.

Speaker 8 It's nuts. And Josh McDaniels, when I say reverse of

Speaker 8 tendencies, they throw so many different like personnel groupings at you. Sometimes there's two backs.
Sometimes there's two tight ends.

Speaker 8 They throw so many different looks at you when it comes to

Speaker 8 what this, like Josh McDaniels will always call play in the first quarter. And then there's always going to be a different play off of a very similar look in the second quarter.

Speaker 8 And then there's always going to be a very similar play off of those same initial two looks in the third quarter.

Speaker 8 Kayshawn Boutay is a top five receiver in the NFL right now when it comes to touchdowns, when it comes to yards per catch.

Speaker 8 That's insane how impressive that connection has been. Drake's playing unbelievable football.
I don't know if there's a guy,

Speaker 8 you know, like he's, he's, there's no question he's playing top five football right now, and it's good enough to no question win them division.

Speaker 1 Okay, and this is a stat from Hembo here talking about the completion percentage, you know, normally reserved for just pocket passers and rhythm offenses.

Speaker 1 Look at the rush yards Drew Brees had 25 of them whenever he was completing this. Jared Goff had 16 rush yards this far.
Tom Brady had 25 rush yards.

Speaker 1 This guy's got 250 rush yards alongside a 75% completion percentage. So it's like what he's doing is exactly what he did in North Carolina.

Speaker 1 North Carolina, he led the team in rushing and he led it obviously in passing. And then you talk about his feet and Caleb, he's only gotten better, right?

Speaker 1 It feels like, because everybody talked about him maybe not being able to operate in an NFL system because he's too athletic. This guy's too athletic.

Speaker 1 He's been too used to being the most athletic guy. McDaniels has just got him to lock in or has this been something he's been doing since he got there?

Speaker 8 That's the thing that is the surprising thing, I would say, is, you know, when he was at North Carolina, there wasn't a lot of rhythm and timing offense.

Speaker 8 It was a heavy RPO, throw the ball downfield offense, and he was an elite at it. He was elite, but you didn't see a lot of things that were going to carry over into the NFL.

Speaker 8 I think the thing that's been most surprising about Drake May is he plays on time, he plays on rhythm, and he never looks too fast for him. You know, like when the balls,

Speaker 8 that's an unbelievable read right there. I believe he throws that ball to Trayon Henderson, a tailback.
Another lovely play call and design where that ball is thrown over the top.

Speaker 8 So I think that's the thing that's most surprising about Drake is you've watched this

Speaker 8 pocket passing on time development, another beautiful play called development, but he never looks sped up. He never looks hurried.
He never looks out of control. It's just this constant,

Speaker 8 I'm in control. I know exactly what I'm looking at.
And you know what? The second thing that's probably been most impressive is he never gets fooled with coverage.

Speaker 8 For a kid who just did not see a ton of different coverage schemes and rotations in college, he never gets fooled with coverage because we went through a lot at him coverage-wise yesterday, and it was like a walk in the park for that young man.

Speaker 1 Miles Garrett had five sacks. They showed that highlight at the end.
He was throwing his helmet down in anger as they were showing that he had a five-sack game. That's what he said.

Speaker 1 That one, exactly, which is what everybody said. And then that one play there we showed third and 23.
Very good Cleveland Browns defense.

Speaker 1 They are picketing at the sticks, still picking up with delivery and everything he's got going on. Unbelievable.
Good connection.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he's 23 now. He won't be 24 until August.
Jaden Daniels turned 24 during his rookie year, but you mentioned him with Miles Garrett.

Speaker 5 Like he was getting a ton of pressure and he never got rattled. He didn't get like the happy feet.
Oh, I might get hit. Like he stood in the pocket and he kept throwing the ball.

Speaker 5 And it's just one of those things where you would, you know, you're just very excited.

Speaker 1 Is that the little brother effect, you think?

Speaker 3 Some of it, for sure.

Speaker 3 And, you know, coming from an athletic family, being able to take, because the one thing about Josh McDaniels seems like he is a a hard coach too like a hard nose coach like sticks to the details and all the things that you've seen behind the scenes with drake he seems like the one of the most coachable guys and that's one of the things you worry about especially when you get to this level with quarterbacks and egos and things like that so it's that he's everything that clode christian told us he would be and now coaching you see how much it matters on this level and for all what you said for a guy that got sacked five times by one guy to not be sped up and to still be in control of being a young guy like that, the sky's the limit.

Speaker 1 He's third in MVP odds right now behind Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen. Daniel Jones plus 1100.
Drake May plus 450. Josh Allen plus 400.
Mahomes plus 150 at ESPN Bay. Congratulations to these guys.

Speaker 1 Have an incredible season.

Speaker 1 AJ has the last question for you, Dano.

Speaker 9 Yeah, Dano, are the Dolphins fully back now with Tua? Obviously, big 34-10 victory over the Falcons. I assume you're back on the Dolphins?

Speaker 8 No, but it was nice to see Tua look like Tua. I mean, it was just the elite timing that we've grown accustomed to.
He did. He looks new.
He had a new eye.

Speaker 1 And he had violence.

Speaker 8 Oh,

Speaker 8 I'd say this, though.

Speaker 8 In that game,

Speaker 8 it was the most physical I've seen Miami probably under Mike McDaniel. Just so much more physical in general.
Their offense had an attitude to it. Their defense had an attitude to it.

Speaker 8 Atlanta could not do anything against that defense. The physical commitment to run the football in a traditional style, a little bit of an old school style.

Speaker 8 And then Tua was just surgical with this timing, which is kind of what we've become accustomed to. That ball is nuts.

Speaker 8 Accustomed to with Tua. I'm not all the way back on them because obviously it's a long road and their injuries and lack of talent are real.

Speaker 8 But I will say,

Speaker 8 outstanding performance on the road, but way more concerning in regards to Atlanta than it was. like feeling positive about Miami.

Speaker 1 Atlanta gets blown out by the Panthers. Huge win.
Blown out by the Dolphins. Probably have a huge win going forward.
Kirk Cousins, obviously, didn't look that spectacular in his season debut.

Speaker 1 Let's go back to Gumpy, Miami Dolphins Super fan. We're back.
We got the same record as the Ravens.

Speaker 16 Yeah, we went with 6-0 linemen yesterday. Three-headed monster, Ollie Gordon, HN, Jalen Wright out of Tennessee, got some burn yesterday.
I mean, we just pounded the rock, stopped the run.

Speaker 16 Physical football team yesterday.

Speaker 1 Dan Orlovsky, you heard Tony Diggs saying everybody's doing it.

Speaker 1 That's Artie Smith, Aaron Rodgers creating the new wave in the NFL of six offensive linemen and then getting a little bit more protection for the quarterback.

Speaker 1 Is that a Artie Smith, Pittsburgh Steelers thing that you're going to have to give credit to on national television?

Speaker 8 No, that's really a Joe Brady Buffalo thing from last year.

Speaker 8 There's so many teams doing it right now. There's so many.
I think there's like five or six things that... If you're not doing in the NFL right now offensively, I just think you're behind the times.

Speaker 1 Under center? Under center, like you've been saying for free.

Speaker 8 I'd like to put the quarterback under center more. You're seeing more and more teams do it.
Philadelphia does it all of a sudden. There's good success.
I mean,

Speaker 8 Philadelphia through week five or week six led the NFL in negatives. I don't know if they have two or three negatives in the last two weeks.

Speaker 8 They put Jalen under center way more than they have in the first five weeks. They've gone and used play action way more than they did in the first five weeks.

Speaker 8 They've thrown the ball in the middle of the field. So I think you got to put the quarterback under center.
I think you got to go with six offensive linemen occasionally.

Speaker 8 I think you got to get in different four by one formations. I think you got to go early down play action.

Speaker 8 Those are the trends in the NFL right now that I think are massive.

Speaker 1 No problem. Everybody should do all that.
Boom. You're the man, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 1 What are you doing? You got NFL live out there?

Speaker 8 Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 How's the show going to be pretty good? How's the weather? It looks like it's a little gloomy-doomy out, doesn't it?

Speaker 8 Yeah, it's gray. It's gray.
It's not too cold, which I'll take. It's about 58, 59 degrees, but gray.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of gray right there. What are you walking into there? Is that makeup? You're about to get all suited and booted.

Speaker 8 This is like the new

Speaker 8 central location on site. It's an RV.

Speaker 1 oh sick oh sick yes

Speaker 1 Danos hey don't be taking

Speaker 8 no dumps in there no no no no I'm pretty sure this is for like Monday night content but they let us

Speaker 1 oh nice all right it's your show too ladies and gentlemen Dan Reloss yeah yeah

Speaker 1 Dan's going to dump in there oh without sure hey excuse me where's the John it's in the back got it there's two of them actually which one are we gonna be around this front one let me go in here no later

Speaker 1 he's so tall gotta break it in yeah he's gonna be in that thing boom bang pal how you doing AJ, have you commented about my Muchas Gracias yet or not?

Speaker 9 Yeah, I mean, I know that

Speaker 9 you like it cold, and I cannot imagine how you feel right now, especially that genuine

Speaker 9 synthetic leather you got in those arms. You got to be sweating.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm dripping sweat. I went to the bathroom.

Speaker 1 Tank top is drenched underneath. Cool.
It's a cool jacket. I do look very cool.

Speaker 1 I do look very cool, I feel like, you know. And I've been trying to flip the collar, but it just, it's too, it's too cool.
That doesn't flip.

Speaker 9 The collar should be white. What if the collar was white so you could really tell real quickly?

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Okay, I'm your friend.

Speaker 1 That's what I thought. I think that's that last one, right? Me friend.
Yep, yes, yep, that is my friend. Checks out.
No, muchos quiostamos, me amigos. Muchos gracias poor le jacketo.

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Teamo. Yo, teamu?

Speaker 5 No, just yo.

Speaker 1 Yo,

Speaker 1 yo,

Speaker 1 Jack. I love it.

Speaker 1 I love it. It's really cool looking.

Speaker 2 I know we're glad you like it as a direct English to Spanish translation there.

Speaker 1 Well, we got the Raul. I believe Raul probably runs that social media there.
He's a good man. Probably.
NFL Mexico.

Speaker 1 They love ball. Think about these international correspondents.
Think about how much they love ball. Okay, they're like drumming up their country.
They're like...

Speaker 1 campaigning for the sport of football in their countries. You talk about McQuaid.
Yeah. Obviously, we've gotten a chance to to know him.

Speaker 1 Raul and the NFL Mexico people, like, they will take any opportunity to be like, yes, we will spread the love of game. So we're on their side too.

Speaker 3 But Raul's not just drumming up bullshit stats, isn't he?

Speaker 1 What do you mean, bullshit?

Speaker 1 McQueen was boots on the ground last night.

Speaker 1 Hey, what was the McQuaid stat about no early game and the happiness level of the American football fans because UK and Europe didn't provide a morning game yesterday?

Speaker 4 Yeah, so they actually went around to like 1,500 fans over their lads and they had one of the doctor's cards, you know, like two, kind of pain, four, a little more pain, six, a little bit more pain, eight, a lot of pain, ten, worst pain ever.

Speaker 4 And he basically said, like, lads, how you feeling after that game? And he just, you know, everyone said with it.

Speaker 4 Averaged on the doctor little card scale that they've been using forever, averaged a 9.1 lads.

Speaker 1 Oh, so much pain!

Speaker 4 This weekend, exactly.

Speaker 2 He was standing on the parkway west stopping cars actually last night.

Speaker 1 Was he really? Yeah, he was. He was in town for the weekend.

Speaker 2 He was in North Carolina for Chapel Bill this weekend.

Speaker 1 He was doing it all. McQuidd.

Speaker 5 McQuidde did quite the weekend.

Speaker 1 For the good of ball. Yeah, exactly.
Legitimately, for the good of ball.

Speaker 1 College football had some massive, massive, massive things take place, including a firing of LSU's Brian Kelly, which obviously I don't think anybody could have seen coming from the moment he was hired at LSU.

Speaker 1 Now, on that note, good football coach, okay, good football coach. I obviously played at West Virginia whenever he was coaching at Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 Then obviously he goes to Notre Dame, has success there, goes to LSU.

Speaker 1 He's good, wins a lot of his games, but I don't think anybody at any point, and we weren't as baptized into the college football world at the time of him being hired at LSU as we are now.

Speaker 1 Could you imagine our reaction now if Brian Kelly would have got hired at LSU? I mean, we would have, that's almost,

Speaker 1 I mean, his family thing

Speaker 1 from immediately was off.

Speaker 1 And I don't want to mock him because if I speak to some southern people, I will certainly slow that down a little bit to them. So I don't want to judge him for it.
But was it ever going to work?

Speaker 9 You know?

Speaker 9 Never felt like a great fit.

Speaker 1 It never did. And he's walking out of there with 50-some million potential negotiated buyout happening currently, allegedly, if you're listening to reports.
And now LSU's wide open, Florida.

Speaker 1 I thought it was going to work.

Speaker 3 I did. Maybe it's because, like you said, the Big East Day has been in Cincinnati.
He was a good coach in Notre Dame, but the thing was like, oh, he'll never be able to get the guys coming.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he didn't have the players.

Speaker 3 And then you go to LSU, which the three previous coaches before him all won national championships, right? So I didn't think, you know, Brian Cleveland was just a slappy.

Speaker 3 I thought he was a good football coach.

Speaker 3 Jaden Daniels, Eiseman, you know, you're going to have the talent. There's a bunch of Louisiana guys in the NFL.
They're going to be a bunch of five-stars in that state.

Speaker 3 But now that's probably the best job, best college job available right now.

Speaker 1 On that note, Tone Diggs, a college football author, put out a poll. Best job, LSU, Florida, or Penn State.
LSU, now we are from Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 We have a lot of Big Ten, obviously, ties with our program because of our location here in Indianapolis, Indiana.

Speaker 1 We thought maybe Penn State would get a little bit of a leaner here. LSU is kind of what everybody's saying.
LSU is saying, hey, this is an incredible job.

Speaker 1 Three out of the last four coaches won national championships there at LSU with the amount of talent. Florida, obviously, the state of Florida, always going to be good.

Speaker 1 Penn State has all the resources in the world and a lot of history. Were you surprised that LSU won this poll on your Twitter account by the wide margin that it did?

Speaker 2 By the wide margin, yes. Was I surprised that they won? No.
I thought it would be a little more closer, a little more 30% for everyone.

Speaker 2 But, you know, just like Debut said, and you talk about the last three coaches who were there all win a national championship.

Speaker 2 They all talk about the recruiting base down there, and you don't have to, you know, compete with those other Florida schools when you're in a school, at a school like Florida situation.

Speaker 2 Yes, Penn State probably has the most money, but when you put everything together, yeah, LSU is the spot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, obviously, this is the storyline right now is the amount of buyouts.

Speaker 1 And then there's reports now, these are just the head coaches' buyouts, let alone all the assistant coaches and everything like that.

Speaker 1 What schools and teams and organizations are willing to do to try to win a national championship, especially with the amount of money that is being invested in these teams and in these programs, it's crazy times.

Speaker 1 The reason why Brian Kelly was fired is because Texas AM went in there and absolutely crushed him. Texas AM might be best team in country.
There's a few of those teams.

Speaker 1 Vandi gets a huge win over Missouri. That is gigantic for their program.
Obviously, all eyes were in Nashville on this Vanderbilt team.

Speaker 1 And Diego Pavia, Coach Clark Lee, and the boys showed up in a big way, get a huge win over Missouri with the eyes. and the pressure of the world upon them.

Speaker 1 Now, they thought maybe, you know, with Alabama a couple weeks back, they weren't able to beat them. This was going to be another game.
They weren't going to be able to prove who they are.

Speaker 1 Diego Pavia and the boys get a huge win. Congrats to them.
And then Ole Miss beats Oklahoma. I picked Oklahoma on game day, AJ, because Matir was back.

Speaker 1 And what we saw from them earlier in the year in the Oklahoma defense is so damn good. Veterable is the reason why he's the head coach of Oklahoma is because of how damn good his defense is.

Speaker 1 Then you add in the weather. It's like, well, you would think Oklahoma would be able to pound him here.
Ole Miss wouldn't be able to handle it all. Instead, yeah, right.
Ole Miss. Huge win.

Speaker 1 Winned that is what they're calling the quarterback and the head coach of that team. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, obviously football coaching legend, Lane Kiffin.

Speaker 1 I picked Oklahoma. I picked Oklahoma.
That's 100% on me, coach. I apologize for that.
I should have known that you guys are exactly who you've said you are.

Speaker 1 Dogs willing to go into anywhere, any environment, and win. What did you learn from your team with this Oklahoma win? And how do you feel about where you guys sit at this moment of college football?

Speaker 7 Well, you helped motivate us, Pat, just so you know.

Speaker 7 There's a lot of talk on the bus about this pick of yours and everybody picking against us sec nation every single person picked against us i don't know if anybody picked it laura rutledge daughter picked us is the only person that ever

Speaker 1 okay we appreciate laura rutledge's daughter having a forecast of it all but you do draw from that i assume you pull from that type of stuff with your team whenever you're motivating and what did you see from your team in the win over oklahoma Well, those guys see that stuff.

Speaker 7 So I don't know how much that works.

Speaker 7 Trend dad mentioned it. You know, he's like, because he thought thought like you and him were boys, you know, because you FaceTime on the bus normally for games like,

Speaker 7 you know, a big game, you know, like LSU, you did. And then all of a sudden you jumped off and you picked Georgia.
We lost to Georgia.

Speaker 1 And then strictly business.

Speaker 7 They told me, they told me all you did was talk about Oklahoma's quarterback, how great he was going to play. So

Speaker 1 thank you.

Speaker 1 Thank you for doing it.

Speaker 1 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 I love Trinidad. I mean, I heard Winnidad for the first time.
I love the name.

Speaker 1 I love everything about him, but I didn't know enough about him, is what I think. And now, Matir, I learned quickly about him, so that's 100% on me.

Speaker 1 Please tell Trinidad that I apologize for not knowing enough about his game. That's on me.
That's on me.

Speaker 7 Guess who's hanging out right here?

Speaker 1 What's that?

Speaker 7 You can tell him yourself.

Speaker 1 No, no, whoa, whoa, whoa. Winnadad?

Speaker 1 Winned. Hey, I love you, man.
I absolutely love you, dude.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm part of the problem here, Winnidad. I just want to let you know, I didn't, that's on me not having enough belief in you.
I didn't understand the amount of dog that was in you, Trinidad.

Speaker 1 That's 100% on me. How do you feel, brother? And also, I love that you want to check me for this.
It makes me like you even more than it all, Trinidad.

Speaker 7 Appreciate you, Pat. Feeling good after the win, man.
You know, Oklahoma, that was a tough team, but. you know, we found a way to win, so it was good.

Speaker 1 Now, Trinidad, I heard, you know, because you don't play in front of a lot of people and maybe the weather's bad that you were going to be ass.

Speaker 1 Now, everybody around you says that's not who you are at all. Mental tough guy from Michigan.

Speaker 1 What do we maybe not know enough about you and this team that maybe uh some of the doubters don't know trinidad

Speaker 7 i mean that we find ways to win um you know all season we've had a pretty good season so far um you know against georgia didn't uh wasn't the outcome that we wanted but you know versus okloma we bounced back and coach was excited to see how we would bounce back and you know just happy that we got the win really congrats winner dad what a name hell yeah what a name Great to see you, brother.

Speaker 1 Congrats on a huge win. And the entire world needs to know your story.
This dude comes from Ferris State.

Speaker 1 Okay, becomes a dog, goes to Ole Miss, gets thrust into action, doesn't miss a beat. And that's why they don't call him Truzadat.
You know, they call him Trinidad.

Speaker 1 Because all this guy does is win a dad, Donner. Congrats, Trinidad.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Appreciate you guys. Appreciate you, man.
Okay, now,

Speaker 1 since he's a little bit too close, so I don't want to...

Speaker 1 add anything. Yeah, yeah, he's out now.

Speaker 7 Back to film study. Got a grind.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Excuse me.
Don't worry.

Speaker 7 I'm like you, man. I keep him down too.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a whole lot.

Speaker 7 We missed. We should have won by three scores in that game if he would have done everything he should.

Speaker 1 Okay. Well, wait till the rat poison I'm about to pour on your entire team for the rest of this entire thing.
Trinidad just walking into that interview for us. So cool.
Very, very thankful for that.

Speaker 1 But on that note. We just talked about the big story coming out of this weekend, not you guys getting a huge win over Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 Not Vandy, obviously solidifying being a powerhouse at this point with all eyes on them getting a huge win over Missouri. The big story is obviously another coach fired at a massive place.

Speaker 1 Your name gets brought up for all of these things. How do you handle that with team? How do you talk about it? Because obviously you said they see everything.
What is your kind of,

Speaker 1 you know, communication with the team as all of this kind of is happening around you, coach?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I usually don't talk about it with the team because we've dealt with this for a number of years because our players have performed really well and won a lot of games here.

Speaker 7 And so this attention has come with that. I just thought last week it was important late in the week to address it on Friday just because we have so many new players.

Speaker 7 So they hadn't been here, you know, the year or the year before that where, you know, these job rumors and stuff would come up.

Speaker 7 And so I just told them, hey, this is a product of how you guys play is why they see the way that you play. So then people are like, fans are like, we want that system.

Speaker 7 And they say coach, but really it's the system of the players and the assistant coaches and what a good job they do. So I just told them that's a compliment to them.

Speaker 7 And I think it's easier for them nowadays because remember, basically the same thing happens to them.

Speaker 7 They have a good game. What happens? You know, our freshman receiver has a good game.

Speaker 7 Saturday night, he's got three calls from places telling him, hey, come here, we'll give you more money, you know, pre-portaling, you know, before the portal opens. That's what happens.

Speaker 7 And so they deal with this all the time of places saying, oh, come here, you'll get more money because they're performing well. So I don't think it's that big a deal to them.

Speaker 1 So you feel like

Speaker 1 the modern athlete, a little bit more entrepreneurial, kind of understand the hype and also the amount of kind of extra shit that can take place because they've been born and raised in it.

Speaker 1 Is that kind of how you feel about it?

Speaker 7 Yeah. And like I said, it happens to them, where before that would never happen in college.
So the player, you know, wouldn't have any examples of that in his own life where it happens to them.

Speaker 7 Got it. And a lot of our guys were portaled to come here.
And so they're used to that now. It's just kind of the world that they live in.

Speaker 1 Go ahead, AJ.

Speaker 9 Yeah, Coach, I would imagine like behind the scenes, you're a product of your own success.

Speaker 9 Obviously, it's a very, it's a big compliment to you and your team that everybody wants to bring you in and your system.

Speaker 9 But I would imagine if there are a lot of like parents that see these reports and call in and wonder what's going on with their kid on the roster, also recruits.

Speaker 9 Like, do you have to work on behind the scenes stuff all the time when things like this come up?

Speaker 7 Probably not as much as you think,

Speaker 7 just because, like I said, it's happened before. So guys on our roster, parents, they're familiar with it.
And so not as much as you think. And

Speaker 7 in recruiting, you know, we just talk about the product that we put,

Speaker 7 the positions that we put them into play and the success that we've had here. So we don't deal with it near as much as you would think.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think this era and this generation, you know, just kind of understands it a lot more than maybe back in the day because we've been exposed to more of that.

Speaker 1 Now, on that note, you are different and operate differently than everybody else, I think, which is why so many people in so many schools are interested. Go ahead, D-bud.

Speaker 3 Yeah, absolutely. And we know from the outside looking in, we can't hear all the shit talk going on between the lines, or maybe even on the sideline.

Speaker 3 There was some interaction with you and an Oklahoma player after the game. What kind of happened before the cameras caught you before you got to that interview?

Speaker 1 Here it is, actually. Hold on, one second, coach.
Oh, oh, are you talking a little bit to Oklahoma's players?

Speaker 1 This guy yelled at me like during the game like five times how great they were, and we can't score on them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I love that. Obviously, no other coach is doing that, Lane.

Speaker 1 So, obviously, incredible. What was that? How was that? How'd we get to that point?

Speaker 7 Well,

Speaker 7 that happens a lot, I think, with me and players and interaction and during the game,

Speaker 7 especially defensive players. You know, a lot of times they'll say things to me in warm-ups.
I don't know. Maybe they view me as different as other coaches.

Speaker 7 They kind of talk to me like they do a player. So I embrace it probably because.

Speaker 7 I give it to them sometimes too. And so he'd said a lot during the game, you know, when he's on my sideline, you look at me like, you ain't going to score all day, you know?

Speaker 7 So I really wasn't trying to do it on camera. And interesting enough, I've had a number of players

Speaker 7 transfer over the years that said, hey, one of the reasons was we loved the way that you interacted with us on the other side during the game. And we wanted to play for a coach like that.

Speaker 7 So I think our players actually love it.

Speaker 1 That's hilarious. Yeah.
Listen, I talked shit to you. You immediately fired back.
I told everybody, this guy's awesome. I don't know how.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that is Bruce Arians. That is literally Bruce Arians.
Bruce Arians, same exact thing. Like during practices, offense coordinator, defense, talking shit to each other.
Players love it.

Speaker 1 I like that you still have that in you, you know, throughout this entire process of evolving of who you are and becoming this person at this stage of your life that maybe is different than the old past.

Speaker 1 Like that you still got your edge. Like that you still got your edge.
Now, on that note, your team seemingly has great edge. Go ahead, Ty.

Speaker 4 Yeah, coach, I understand, you know, anything can happen on any given Saturday, but you guys are pretty much through the real teeth of your conference schedule right now.

Speaker 4 And I don't think you really need any extra motivation to get up when you're playing teams like Alabama or Georgia or LSU, you know, take your pick.

Speaker 4 But how do you avoid kind of the letdown when down the stretch here, you have, you know, some of these teams from the bottom half of the SEC who, if you're not coming in prepared, obviously anybody can get got on any Saturday?

Speaker 7 Yeah, they can. There's examples all over the place of it.
And

Speaker 7 in college triple, but the SEC now is really the NFL. You look at these games, so many games are one score, you know.

Speaker 7 Or now you got so many teams going to overtime to beat teams that they were, you know, supposedly much better than. So that's what we're in.
That's the world we're in.

Speaker 7 And so we got to get up every single week and tell guys about that.

Speaker 7 And this is a really good example. You know, this is an extremely talented South Carolina team.
This is an off-the-charts talented quarterback that can beat you.

Speaker 7 And so we're going to have to be ready to play. I mean, these guys are ahead of Alabama just, you know, a few days ago.
And Alabama's a great team. So

Speaker 7 this is what we're in. We're in the NFL and the SEC, and you better be ready every week.

Speaker 1 I love to hear that mentality, and that's a good coach. And once again, why your name is up for every single job that's available and will be forever.

Speaker 1 And you having to lock in and continue to do your job in the SEC while still trying to make playoffs and win championships. Crazy thing for you coaches to deal with, especially with the numbers.

Speaker 1 The numbers we're all hearing about, Lano. Listen, Brian Kelly could be a professional golfer next six years, getting paid $54 million.
That'd be more than Scotty fucking Scheffler.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you guys have earned it, obviously. Good for the state, good for the program.

Speaker 1 Tone has a last question for you here, Code.

Speaker 2 Yeah, coach, I do.

Speaker 2 I was wondering if you have a chance on Sundays to witness what Jackson Dart is doing, and if any of it surprises you, because his moxie and everything feels like it's perfect for New York, and he's been off to a great start.

Speaker 7 Well, right before I go to that, what Pat said there, just so you know,

Speaker 7 because you haven't known me very long, Pat, I've never made a decision based off of money, nor will I.

Speaker 1 Love that.

Speaker 7 For a lot of people, they're just like, well, money and it does this and does that. I've seen too many examples in life where money does not buy happiness.

Speaker 7 So I am never going to make a decision off money.

Speaker 7 Nor do I care about it. And

Speaker 1 it's good to have you.

Speaker 7 Jimmy Sexton gets really mad when I say that.

Speaker 1 He's got enough.

Speaker 9 We got to get this.

Speaker 7 We got to get this. And I'm like, Jimmy, I don't care.
And he goes, I do.

Speaker 1 He said, that's why I'm here.

Speaker 1 That is why I'm here.

Speaker 7 But to the Jackson, he's awesome.

Speaker 7 You know,

Speaker 7 he's my only other FaceTime guy. He FaceTimes me too.
So most people just call Pat and Jackson. They're big FaceTime guys.

Speaker 1 I want to see. Good to know.

Speaker 7 Jackson, after his big win two weeks ago,

Speaker 7 the next morning, he FaceTimed me. And I was in the quarterback meeting and he was in bed.
And I said, this is really weird.

Speaker 7 I do not need FaceTimes from you, you know, until you get up and start moving around. So

Speaker 7 he's just so, such a cool kid. And he's so competitive.
And everybody just feeds off it. So I'm just so happy to see, just like you would be as a dad.
Like my own son just had two comebacks. Yeah.

Speaker 7 two games. Jackson, the player like, I feel like I'm watching a son.
I'm just so happy for him.

Speaker 1 Congrats to Knox. We've been following along on the internet with that incredible high school run.
They're on throwbacks and toss-ups. And congrats to you.
We appreciate the hell out of you, coach.

Speaker 7 All right, guys, have a great week. And make sure you do not pick us this week, Pat.
Please.

Speaker 1 No, no, don't do that because people continue to hate me.

Speaker 1 Before we get out of here, before we get out of here, AJ,

Speaker 1 I think this would be a good time to let the world know on how great of a human Nick Mangold is, was and everything like that.

Speaker 1 Honestly, I didn't want to put you on a spot, but I think hearing from friends and beloved ones is a good thing for his legacy. AJ, you've obviously known him a long time.

Speaker 1 Just a couple of words that people need to know about him.

Speaker 9 Yeah, man, I don't know.

Speaker 9 Yeah, Nick was a man. Like,

Speaker 9 I was nervous, like, to even think about coming on here and talking about him. But yeah, like, I grew up with the dude, a college roommate for four straight years.

Speaker 9 Unbelievable player, but yeah, just there's, there's no one else like him on the planet. Super unique, dude.

Speaker 9 Looking back, seeing pictures of us playing together in sixth grade, every college memory I have is with Nick.

Speaker 9 Yeah, this was high school, actually, by the way. You see, like, Nick is smiling in every single picture you ever see of him, pretty much.
Like, the dude is, look at him right here.

Speaker 9 Are you kidding me? I remember during this game we're playing. Nick was so big, country strong, I'm blitzing the A-gap forever, and I'm thinking I'm working.

Speaker 9 He makes me feel like a little toddler holding on. He's like, all right, buddy, he's your big guy.

Speaker 1 He's your big guy. He's in the middle of a play.

Speaker 9 Like, he is just, what a special human. Four kids.
His wife called yesterday morning. I knew something was up.
It was very, very unfortunate. I just, yeah, can't believe it.

Speaker 9 Like, just doesn't feel real right now, but Nick, Nick is an absolute man. And, you know, prayers for everyone in his family.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you as well, brother. And we appreciate you saying good words about him.
Like, Rex Ryan talking about him yesterday, it was obviously very difficult for Rex to do that.

Speaker 1 But I think it was a good message for people to hear about Nick Mengold. You know, it's the people that love him most singing his praises.

Speaker 1 obviously mean a lot but i think you guys that have been around him and obviously his family knows this i don't know if there's another guy that's as beloved as nick mengold has been throughout the football community and society.

Speaker 1 Just so jolly, seemingly. This guy's so damn jolly, tough, gritty.

Speaker 1 And everything we've learned about him through you, through his family, through Rex, through teammates, through conversations is the world lost a special, special, special man.

Speaker 1 And rest in peace. And we are sorry that obviously everybody around him is going through this and such a perspective putter about literally we have no idea what could happen tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Now, be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change their life.
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Speaker 1 AJ, we appreciate the hell out of you for doing that, brother. I know that was not easy.
I know that was not easy.

Speaker 9 No, Nick, Nick deserves, like, yeah, he deserves everything, man.

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Speaker 1 Hello, beautiful people, and welcome back to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this massive overreaction Monday, October 27th, 2025, hour three of the program begins now.

Speaker 1 Football

Speaker 1 is the greatest. That's AJ Hawk.
The Toxic Tables here at Boston Connor and Atai Schmidt. One half of the Hammer die.
Cowboys AP Tone is here. And nine-year NFL vet Darius J.
Baldwer is here.

Speaker 1 Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 Let's look at tonight's game. AJ, let's see what the records are coming into tonight's game.
Oh, AJ yet again. Wow.
Every week, man.

Speaker 1 This guy's just one better.

Speaker 1 Or two better. It should be five and six.

Speaker 5 I worked you into a shoot with the Panthers because I worked myself into a shoot with the Panthers.

Speaker 5 That's a little inaccurate.

Speaker 1 I'm saying six and six, but on that note, my initial hunch was the Carolina Panthers. So you didn't talk me into it completely.
You did potentially steer me back to the past. I swear.

Speaker 1 I did have a full moment of the Buffalo Bills coming out of a bye.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you saw it. Did you see the clip of me making the pick? Yeah,

Speaker 1 I actually go, oh, wait, I just saw the Bills

Speaker 1 pound the Panthers coming out of the bye. I mean, I literally, that is what my brain tried to tell me.

Speaker 1 But every once in a while, especially with how I've been doing, you're going to fade yourself even. So, Connor, you didn't do anything that I wasn't already doing to myself.

Speaker 1 And on that note, we can still get back in touch.

Speaker 1 Washington at Kansas City. 10 and a half.
Kansas City favored by 10 and a half on Monday night. It has been an entire weekend.
of NFL football blowouts. Will that continue tonight?

Speaker 1 Let's start with Debut. Debutch, how do you see the game going? And Diggs, are there any other odds?

Speaker 2 There is a 10 out there. If you're interested in the Chiefs, you can get them minus 10.
Or if you want the Commanders, you can definitely get them at that plus 10 and a half. 70% of the money is on

Speaker 2 the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 How has public money continued to do?

Speaker 2 This weekend, well, let me say this. So far, favorites are 10-2 so far this weekend.
If the Chiefs cover, that would be the best win percentage for favorites in the last 40 years.

Speaker 2 Obviously, all those blowouts, that's going to happen. So far this weekend on teams that are getting 60% or more of the bets, they are 4-6

Speaker 2 this weekend, 25-47 on the year.

Speaker 1 Okay, 70% on the Chiefs. Those odds seem to be not great, but the favorites, 10-2.
So, you know, kind of stats going against each other, D. Bunch, what do you think?

Speaker 3 Kind of in a pickle right here, but everything

Speaker 3 in me, my mind, my heart, football, everything telling me. Chiefs by three scores in this game, but I'm probably going to do like you did going into Sunday.
I'm going to fade myself.

Speaker 3 So I'm going to actually take the Washington Commanders led by Marius.

Speaker 1 Don't do that. I'm already doing that.

Speaker 3 Terry Terry, he's showing up on prime time. It's going to be a close game.
Give me the commies plus 10 and a half.

Speaker 1 You can't be doing, I'm already doing that. We can't have everybody.
That can't just become our,

Speaker 1 that's not good. No.
There's a lot of football left.

Speaker 3 Trust me, I don't feel good about it.

Speaker 3 Come on. Bet in favor for the MVP.

Speaker 1 Connor, what were you going to say?

Speaker 5 Just the Washington Commanders have had a shell of their offense the last three weeks because Terry McLaurin and Debo haven't played together since, I don't know, week three.

Speaker 5 So if there was any hope in the 10 points, it would be the fact that they were.

Speaker 1 Dan Orlovsky also said this commanders' defense, yeah, right.

Speaker 1 He did say that. Against the church.

Speaker 1 That's what Dan Orlovsky said. He said, yeah, right, buddy.
They're not going to be able to stop any of it. So fast.

Speaker 1 Now, Grant, on the offensive side with Marcus Mariota, who we are fans of, I am a fan of Marcus Mariota.

Speaker 1 I was trying to get him to come to the Colts, I think, at one point, to be our quarterback. Happy we got Danny Danny Dynasty.
Sure.

Speaker 1 Do we have the perfect guy? But Marcus Mariota, also great backup to have if you need him on a Monday night football game against a team that's in the middle of a dynasty. AJ,

Speaker 1 Darius Butler is fading himself. Commanders, plus 10 and a half, even though he thinks the Chiefs are going to win by a lot.

Speaker 1 What are you doing with this one?

Speaker 9 Yeah, I would say maybe a week or two ago, I would tend to lean towards Washington Commanders on this one. I didn't like so many points, but I am taking the Chiefs minus 10.

Speaker 9 It sounds like I can get from Tone because it's going to be

Speaker 9 a raucous environment in there tonight, Pat.

Speaker 1 You should have went first, Pat. No.

Speaker 1 You would have done the same.

Speaker 2 I need to go to the offset.

Speaker 1 You know, I need to go to the offsage. I thought you wanted the Commanders.

Speaker 9 I thought you wanted Commanders.

Speaker 1 No, you didn't. You didn't think that.
Not one time. Did you think that? Well,

Speaker 1 she's going to be there tonight. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I would hope so.

Speaker 1 I think Redwood's going to be running around his national tight ends weekend. Yeah, that's a good good point.

Speaker 1 That doesn't count.

Speaker 2 Two tights.

Speaker 1 Erts is a good punch. Yeah, Ertz going to score tight ends.
He's a good player. I like that little parlay, actually.
Ertz and Travis Kelsey getting into pain.

Speaker 5 Add those just to get ahead here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're right. I need a couple.
Also, Marcus Mariota over 35 rush shorts.

Speaker 1 Let's see what else. Those two to get you.

Speaker 9 You'll take you over the total 48 to score

Speaker 2 round plus 600.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I'm going to take that one as well. That's six, though.

Speaker 5 If you win that, six wins.

Speaker 1 Plus 600, yeah. Yeah, that's true.
Rashi, Rashi Rice, I think he's probably going to get into pain as well. I mean, if we're going to start doing this, I've got Marcus Mariota's over in rush yards.

Speaker 1 Let's see, what else am I seeing out here? All right, Commanders plus 10 and a half, I guess. That's what I'm seeing.
There you go. Because I got to.

Speaker 9 It's a lot of points.

Speaker 1 Is it, though? Have you seen what happened this weekend? Let me read these scores. Let me read these scores.

Speaker 1 38 to 14. That was the Colts over the Titans.

Speaker 1 35 to 25. That was your Packers over Aaron Rodgers, Pittsburgh Steelers.
32 to 13, Patriots over the Browns. 44-24, Broncos over Cowboys.
30 to 16, Ravens over the Bears. 40-9,

Speaker 1 Bills did what they did to the Carolina Panthers off a buy.

Speaker 1 26-15, that's 11. Texans and 49ers.
23-3, okay, Saints can't even bear the score point. Eagles, 38, Giants, 20, that's tough.
34-10, and then 39-38. 10 points, not really that much if you look at.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 3 as great as Mahomes is in this dynasty, one of the things over the years has been covering big spritz with the Chiefs. They kind of let teams hang around.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it's a brand new Chiefs. Remember, we talked about that.

Speaker 1 They isn't still the Chiefs because they're better.

Speaker 5 Are there stats on Mahomes versus Dan Quinn defenses? Because I feel like we didn't look at it for the Old Brick versus the Josh Allen primetime game.

Speaker 5 Maybe there's something there that might help us out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's not a bad.

Speaker 1 Actually, I would just like to hear Dan Quinn does good. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, basically, yeah.

Speaker 5 Just get some positive things.

Speaker 1 Yeah, something.

Speaker 1 I can tell you this.

Speaker 2 Double-digit dogs on Monday Night Football are 27, 9, and 1 against the Spreads since 2007.

Speaker 1 Wow. Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 It's a long time. I don't know if I can make anything in this jacket.

Speaker 10 Yeah, it's going to be tough.

Speaker 1 A little bit tough. Maybe I'll do a song.

Speaker 9 There you go.

Speaker 9 You ever do the flip throw?

Speaker 1 Oh, oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I could do the flip throw. Really?

Speaker 9 Can you launch it that much farther when you do that?

Speaker 1 So for me, no, I could throw it really far just by itself. So

Speaker 1 the flip throw, though, did help people that maybe didn't have the best throw to get a little bit more momentum.

Speaker 1 And the people that had enough courage to do that, knowing that their hands could slip and they could fall on their face right there,

Speaker 1 I respected that. So yeah, the flip throw was certainly something.

Speaker 1 Some people can really huck that thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We had a kid, Michael McDade. Do you remember him? Yeah, he could huck.
Michael McDade could do a just just regular soccer throw, like it's seemingly 50, 60 yards.

Speaker 1 Like, he would just be able to throw it. Kevin Love.

Speaker 9 Long snappers should be really good at that.

Speaker 2 He was like you, though. You guys were not built like soccer players.

Speaker 1 Yes,

Speaker 1 he was a dog.

Speaker 1 Three doors down. He could throw it like upper 90 from the sidelines.
Wow, high. Like, actually, like, he would be able to put it in.
That's a weapon. He would play it in

Speaker 1 Norway. He played professional soccer players.

Speaker 2 He did play at Pitt and then Norway.

Speaker 1 Yeah, one and played Norway. Not a lot of flip throws anymore.
I don't see that. Probably a couple of broken necks.
Did you ever see those? Do you know what those were?

Speaker 3 Flip throws? No, I'm picturing it.

Speaker 1 People pull it. Hand spring on ball.
Boom,

Speaker 3 front hand spring. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 Front hand spring on ball. So you would go, boom, front hand spring, flip, and then as you're whipping up, obviously, it's like a catapult.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
It's a full on. Jeez.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's a lot of action.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it is, you very rarely scored on it. It was like

Speaker 1 it was a hope and a prayer, but boy, there was a big big tadu. Oh, yeah.
It looks cool when somebody was doing a fucking shit.

Speaker 3 If you was doing that shit in games?

Speaker 1 Hell yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Wow. It's a pretty sick little time in soccer.

Speaker 3 I'm just picturing like Debone doing that.

Speaker 1 I don't think that's the right person to be thinking.

Speaker 3 I think he's built it too.

Speaker 1 How did you, ball? Hey, I heard you, AJ. I heard you were playing some games.
I heard you were rocking some rhymes.

Speaker 9 I played a few. Yeah, I almost tore my Achilles, and then I felt like that the next day, but yeah, it was fun.
I won a few, lost a few. It was good.

Speaker 1 Gave some, took more. Yeah, I understand.
I get what you're talking about. You could feel your Achilles about the pop?

Speaker 9 Yeah, you know, I think I played maybe four or five games in a row. I was sweating bullets, like full-blown sweat, driving home.
You know, your sweat freezes to you the whole time.

Speaker 9 It is a good little workout.

Speaker 9 I think you should get two points for a dunk tip, one point for a lay-in tip.

Speaker 5 Yeah, because it helps him and all he does is dunk tip. I mean, he's just trying to rig the game for a while.

Speaker 2 He dunked it a thousand times.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I heard you're Aurelia rocking up. You should dunk it.

Speaker 9 Yeah, that's the name of the game, right? That's why you lower the hoop.

Speaker 1 Now, U-ball is the name of the game, and the hoop is lowered because it's a state-fair game.

Speaker 9 So we can dunk. So we can dunk tip.

Speaker 1 Agreed. Yeah, I mean, that's certainly a positive, but it's also gimmicky.
I mean, it's a little ball. It's a different.
It's a gimmick. It's not just so we can dunk it.
Now, granted.

Speaker 9 Well, it's not fun to tip the ball. Like, you could leave it at 10 foot, and I could get lay-in tips all day long.
Like, that's not fun.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is.

Speaker 5 Slapping the board when you tip the ball is fun.

Speaker 1 On that note.

Speaker 9 Smackbacks. Smackbacks were big.
Like in seventh grade, I had my first Smackback in World War II.

Speaker 1 Simple Smackbacks above the rib. Smackbacks sound cool still.
But on that note, it is lowered so dunking capabilities can happen.

Speaker 1 That wall, though, was built by us, basically. That wall that that hoop is on.
Is it load-bearing? It's a good wall.

Speaker 1 It's got to be.

Speaker 1 I don't think so, buddy.

Speaker 1 That thing is just.

Speaker 1 So you got somebody.

Speaker 9 I got some rebar and concrete behind that brick.

Speaker 1 Maybe.

Speaker 1 I don't think so. Right on the other side of that wall, actually, is the gym, and then there's a golf simulator on the other side.

Speaker 1 So you and D-Bone really testing the limits of the contractors that were certainly in here who did a great job. We're going to say that they did a great job.
Certainly.

Speaker 1 But every time D-Bone was wrecking that thing, I just thought of the entire thing coming down

Speaker 1 and really being problematic. Now, it shouldn't think that way.
It's probably much more sturdy than I imagine.

Speaker 1 But I remember when this place didn't have that wall, and then I watched that thing kind of get built up. And just the thought of you guys just trying to shack that thing is a little scary.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just a little scary. But I appreciate your guys' intensity.
I I will say that. I appreciate your intensity, AJ.

Speaker 9 Debone had like 10 reverse dunk tips, like behind his behind his head.

Speaker 1 Like, he's he's in athletic, yeah, in athletic, yes. How's he doing jumping monsters? Timing,

Speaker 1 his timing on his jumping good.

Speaker 3 I mean, you guys are just refing him. I don't like how you guys ref him.

Speaker 1 It's unfair.

Speaker 3 I mean, he was he had one at, I mean, his elbow was at the top of the fucking box. What was that?

Speaker 5 His elbow's up there, but his foot is on the ground.

Speaker 3 He's not to Wemby. He can't.
That's impossible.

Speaker 1 i heard wemby's a real deal huh everybody's talking about wemby being the real deal cheat coat so and then also austin reeves is the guy yeah heard he won for 50 last night that's awesome cooper flag right going crazy he had his moment he had a nice dunk i think that that will catapult him to kind of zion williamson yeah oh yeah doing his thing he's ah yeah he's rocking rims right now they're doing it wemby blocked him 10 times but he's they still won i think wemby's gonna do that yeah yeah that's wemby football so he went with the monks and came back more aggressive?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I went Monks to KG.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he covered all the bases. Monks, KG, Hakeem.

Speaker 3 I mean.

Speaker 1 So that video of KG, Don

Speaker 1 talking up to him, I didn't hear that. What's going on?

Speaker 5 I don't think that footage has actually been released yet.

Speaker 1 So you guys saying he went to KG. That was like a, hey, Wemby went and trained with KG? Yeah.
That's what that photo was? Yes. Oh, he went from the Monks to KG? Yes.
What a genius this guy is.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Wemby's always thinking seven D chess, isn't he, AJ? He is.

Speaker 9 Yeah, and he's nine feet tall, and he can block everybody's shot, and he doesn't even have to jump to dunk from like the three-point line.

Speaker 1 And he's got wiggle all of a sudden. Oh, yeah.
That's the

Speaker 9 handle is like, it's wild.

Speaker 1 What's the deal? Step backs, this guy.

Speaker 3 That's the crazy part to me. Like, blocking shots, okay.
And even when he doesn't jump to block it, like, you, you, you anticipate him going up there.

Speaker 3 But him, like, this shit right here, just bringing the ball up, being able to handle, pull up, three, like, come on, man. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 Like, that's, that's, that's some NBA 2K created player type shit. Like, usually guys that big can't fucking walk and chew gum at the same time.
And he's stepping

Speaker 3 dribbling, reverse dunking, no look passing. Like, I mean, come on.

Speaker 1 SWAT team, dude. Full SWAT team.
I just watched him SWAT those two shots back to back, just waiting. He's literally just sitting there toying with people.
Yep, and that one's mine.

Speaker 1 Let me hide under here. Yep, that's mine.
Thank you for coming. And also, that's mine.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, welcome to the... Welcome to the SWAT team.
Good for Wemby, good for basketball. Basketball needs a lot of good stuff to happen to it.
Yeah. Yes, it does.
Tyrese Halliburton dunked.

Speaker 1 Here we go. He doesn't hit.
Okay. He dunked.
Tyrese Halliburton dunked. He's on his recovery of the Achilles.
Obviously, week 17. Ah, yooped himself.
Still got a little soft. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 He's going to drop it. Like he did that.
Now, obviously, remember Jason Tatum showcasing his dunk and obviously a part of the process in his recovery.

Speaker 1 Jason Tatum, a couple months ahead of Tyrese Halliburton, so he's literally chasing him. I think they use the same surgeon and everything.
So kind of has a trail and a blueprint ahead of him.

Speaker 1 But obviously, that's good news. All right, NBA.
Good luck. Good luck, NBA.
Good luck, NBA.

Speaker 1 Good luck. Good luck.

Speaker 9 Need some great, great ball on the court, don't they?

Speaker 1 They're getting it early. They need some good highlights out there.

Speaker 1 They need everybody trying real hard. Go ahead.

Speaker 5 All the rookies are playing really, really well. Like, genuinely, they've had stars.
It was essentially just on the court, probably the best start to basketball in a long time.

Speaker 1 Turning it on, just like baseball, turning it on, watching, captivated by what's going on, and then sticking around.

Speaker 1 And then immediately after watching i'm like man i wonder if people are still going to watch this because of everything that's going on it's like uh i think the product is good but they certainly gonna have to you know but not with what happened in turkey you hear about what happened in turkey knocking into

Speaker 9 it so this is it's soccer a bunch of soccer people are corrupt yeah uh well

Speaker 1 aj the way you said that i know what you were trying to do right there i know what you're trying so you guys are telling me a bunch of soccer people are corrupt that's what you just said right there as if all i know of soccer is what i've watched and read about fifa and all of that whole organization.

Speaker 1 And what have you learned about that? Just you get a World Cup potentially if you.

Speaker 9 There seems to be some, I don't know, some backdoor deals, somebody quid pro quo, is that what they call it?

Speaker 9 Even above that, maybe, in some, you know, some questionable situations, building stadiums and such in different parts of the world.

Speaker 1 Now, on that note, boy, soccer, good sport. Yeah.
Good sport.

Speaker 1 We're going to win the World Cup, but I'll tell you what, if the refs are on a take in that sport, you can just free kick penalty off sides anything just like basketball basketball you can call anything you know you can get a yellow card for a guy really if you want to early you can in soccer i'm not saying all soccer is doing this can't say that can't think that way can't do that but in these sports where like anything's a penalty basically you know i mean that's that's all and only one guy knows what how much time is left in the game

Speaker 3 What's that? When you talk about referees, I mean,

Speaker 3 that's all sports.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because I guess holding every playing sports. Holding.

Speaker 16 Legendary coach Jose Mourinho was pounding the drum that the Turkish League was rigged when he coached there. Now he's out of there, but he was right.

Speaker 1 Jose Mourinho? Yeah, legend. The special one.
I heard Messi gave a sit-down interview on whether or not he's playing in the World Cup.

Speaker 16 Yeah, it's going to be on NBC tonight, I believe.

Speaker 3 Was it like the decision?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Would he sit down with Chris Sims?

Speaker 1 Hopefully. No, I don't think it was Chris Sims.
I don't think it was Florio either. I've been in NBC News.
I think it was Good Morning America or something.

Speaker 1 He'll be out there. Nate Burlaway is not playing.

Speaker 1 See about Ape Burlson. Yeah, he's Billy Bush, Terry Brescha.
Terry's on fire. Billy Bush.
Terry is on ferry. Maybe he's announcing he's playing for America as Lou Messi.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's what we need. Yeah.

Speaker 2 What was that guy selling, Terry?

Speaker 1 Cord oil? Pigs. Come on.
Oh,

Speaker 3 I thought it was Coach Lee.

Speaker 1 CBS Sports Galazzo is reporting that Turkish football has been rocked by a massive betting scandal. A probe revealed that 371 of 571 active referees had betting accounts.

Speaker 1 And 152 of them were actively gambling. Good emoji usage there by CBS Sports Goazo.
That is something that'll make you blush. Wow.

Speaker 2 They have 570 referees.

Speaker 1 Yeah, 370 of them were thinking about getting a little action. And then 152 of them said, don't think about it.
Let's do it, actually. That sounds like a problem.

Speaker 1 They're going to have to figure out over there in Turkey. And I'll tell you what, I'm done betting on Turkey soccer.
Me too. Fuck that.
I am too.

Speaker 1 I don't like what they're doing. That's bullshit.
AJ, we make a promise right now. We don't bet on Turkey soccer anymore.

Speaker 9 Okay, AJ? It's going to be tough. I won't bet on it anymore.
I'm still going to watch it, every one of them, but I won't bet anymore.

Speaker 16 Unless it's Champions League. It's like Fenner Bache is playing in the Champions League.

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 1 There's no Turkish refs in the future. You saw the numbers.
There's no Turkish refs in the Champions League. Oh, yeah.
I'm sure they don't follow the team. Okay.
Yeah. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 I'm not betting on it. I'm done with it.
Which sucks. I'm not even going to watch it, Angel.
You're still going to watch the Turkish guys?

Speaker 9 Yeah, he's a Turkish.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, I'll still consume.

Speaker 9 I consume all of soccer.

Speaker 3 Don't get ridiculous now, Pat.

Speaker 16 It's the MLS Cup right now.

Speaker 1 Is G1 still happening?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Boy, is it? Where'd you guys play at?

Speaker 3 See that jacket you got on?

Speaker 1 Mexico City. Mexico City.
Lando has taken the lead by one point.

Speaker 1 He's got his partner. Hey, he's bueno.

Speaker 1 He really is down there. Yeah.
Blando's a stretch.

Speaker 1 Well, good luck to G1.

Speaker 1 And the MLS Cup is a real deal, brother. I saw last night.
Lou Messi was trying to bend it in from a corner. Almost made it.
Classic Lou.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's classic. I played last night.

Speaker 16 Cincy Nashville tonight. It's a big one.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. They need to play these games on Tuesday.
This is all week.

Speaker 2 I would definitely be down on Tuesday. Tuesday, what occurred?

Speaker 1 Classic best of three series. No, not one o'clock.
We don't want to go

Speaker 1 a.m. or 1 p.m.
No, 1 p.m. I don't want to go.

Speaker 1 How will we do a show? True. No one watches the show.
That's a good question. I think we'd be watching because I don't think anyone would watch it.
That's kind of what I was getting at.

Speaker 1 Maybe just throw it on it like 1 p.m.

Speaker 16 You got got Sounders, Minnesota next year.

Speaker 4 Now that's a different story. I did not know the Sounders.

Speaker 1 Is it in NCAA? Okay. Is it NCAA? It's in Minnesota.
Oh, no,

Speaker 4 so that's going to be a primetime one. Needs to be.

Speaker 1 Because I will watch that. All right.

Speaker 1 So we'll keep up with everything going on. Who the Riverhounds got?

Speaker 1 We win this year or no. We were in it last year.

Speaker 16 They were in the U.S. Open Cup.
They're still in.

Speaker 1 What? Golf? What's that mean?

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 That's not what?

Speaker 16 The U.S.

Speaker 1 Open Cup? Oh, They are golfers. Oh.
Excuse me.

Speaker 2 They're in the playoffs. They're at home in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Who do they got?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Now, just notice: the Palaw Mustangs boys and girls' soccer team in the playoffs, they're problematic.
Hell yeah. They are problematic.

Speaker 1 And then the Palau Mustangs football team, did you see what happened? I did.

Speaker 9 What an awesome play. Yes, I did.

Speaker 1 Austin Kolankoski taking that thing to the crib. You know, I don't like how we just didn't block anybody for the field goal.
We might need to get that figured out as we go in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 but way to react, boys. Way to get it close in the fourth and take it home.
Way to outfight at, out scrap, out grit the Penn Hills football team. What's their name?

Speaker 2 Is it still the same?

Speaker 1 That was a question from me to you, brother. What was it?

Speaker 1 Before.

Speaker 9 What did it rhyme with?

Speaker 1 Schmindi.

Speaker 4 Okay, I figured. I thought that might have been the case.

Speaker 1 You can let that one. You can let it fly.
The Penn Hills Indians are a notable, good football team. Yeah, they are.
Okay, they are a good football team. Very, very good.

Speaker 1 This Mustangs team, though, young, scrappy, young, and it was on display there.

Speaker 1 Got a tough one against USC, Upper St. Clair.
But we need to think about putting this guy every position.

Speaker 2 I think they're the Trojans.

Speaker 1 He's untackleable.

Speaker 1 He's Austin called Koski. And I love everything he's about.
Did you see that other game that happened in Indiana, AJ? Yeah,

Speaker 9 Bodie Howell. Was that the quarterback, I believe? That was pretty amazing.
Remember, remember that.

Speaker 1 Unbelievable that you pulled his name from that. Legit.
Bodie Howell of Eastbrook is what we like to define, literally, as a problem on a football field. Okay?

Speaker 1 He gets the ball in his own 20, runs all the way back to his own 11.

Speaker 1 Gets the edge on 61 is given max effort with terrible angle there. He'll figure it out later in life, we assume.
Alexandria needs the win to get to the playoffs. Eastbrook, undefeated season.

Speaker 1 Bodie Howell says, we're not losing tonight. Glitch in the camera.
No glitch in the game. Bodie How.

Speaker 3 I mean, it's camera quality.

Speaker 1 There's a

Speaker 1 flag on the play. My high school take.

Speaker 2 You have it?

Speaker 1 They now have

Speaker 1 a block in the back on Bodie Howe's team. One untimed down because it resulted in a touchdown.

Speaker 1 Bodie Howell throws it to the sky here in Indiana, and it comes down.

Speaker 1 Touchdown.

Speaker 1 Eastbrook. Two tuds in a row that are improbable.
An annexation of Puerto Rico. A Hail Mary.
And then a two-point conversion. Cross his body.
It's a tieball game with no time left in the game.

Speaker 1 Let's go to overtime. Can Alexandria answer? Of course.
They score a touchdown. Eastbrook's got to answer.
Bodie Howe.

Speaker 1 No option toss. To the crib.
Are they going to go for two, try to steal this thing, not kick the extra point, go to double overtime? They are. That's Bodie Howell football.
Give me it.

Speaker 1 Pitch guy wide open never getting the ball no bodie house taking that one home welcome to bodie how show eastbrook maintains its undefeated season and alexandria i do believe missed the playoffs oh that's tough

Speaker 1 yeah i'm not 100 sure but i think that's tough that's good high school football there oh yeah

Speaker 1 good old

Speaker 1 that is good yeah and also no real angles or leverage just

Speaker 1 like the next film was film session the next day

Speaker 1 the glitch on the film even on it i mean just everything about it was so high school right there for both those plays. Just like the most high school football of all time.

Speaker 1 Love that high school football is taking place. Huge weekend in Pittsburgh for football.
Obviously, hosting a Sunday night football game with the Packers coming to town. And them losing.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Fireworks. They had fireworks.
You see the fireworks show?

Speaker 1 Yensers are not taking it well. And I'm not 100% sure if they're the only team that is responding the way that they are.
And that's why we put out a tweet on Monday mornings.

Speaker 1 We say, hey, listen we want to hear how you feel we want to get the temperature of every fan base and obviously we don't have friends in every fan base so we're going to utilize you guys to go ahead and explain your emotions on this overreaction Monday go ahead and tweet us uh all you got to use is

Speaker 1 i don't want to overreact but

Speaker 1 This ended up being our number two overall trend, I believe, which we are incredibly thankful that everybody participates.

Speaker 1 But also, we're very thankful that people utilize it as a therapy session and really let it out, AJ.

Speaker 1 I mean some people really let it out on their teams and I get a good enjoyment out of reading them because this is what's good about the sport this is what's good about the sport this one's from Nick Meraldo he's a noted Pittsburgh Steeler fan hashtag I don't want to overreact but we finally have an offense that can score actual points but now the vaunted steel curtain defense is a soulless life-sucking money pit that can't run tackle cover communicate or seemingly function at a professional level in any capacity.

Speaker 1 Feels like nothing good coming from that defense. Let's go to the man himself.
Nick,

Speaker 1 once you sent this tweet, did you feel better? And have you changed your opinion from that moment until now?

Speaker 10 Opinion certainly has not changed. Thank you.
You read that very well and you put the emphasis on all the right syllables because that's how it felt typing that out and watching that game last night.

Speaker 10 Watching these guys just fall flat on their face with a 10-point lead and an opportunity to close out a game on national TV against a big-time opponent with with all these great storylines with Aaron in the pack and the defense just couldn't get it done.

Speaker 10 Couldn't tackle anybody, couldn't cover. It's the same thing week after week.
They get outgained in every game. They give up these huge chunk plays, massive third downs.

Speaker 10 They just let them walk right down the field.

Speaker 15 It sucks.

Speaker 1 AJ, it might be because of the uniforms. Nick's not really talking about that.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I think I heard Tone say that he's not able to tackle in those uniforms. I think if they would have had black pants, maybe it would have been a little better on the eyes.

Speaker 9 I think I like the helmets. I like the matte, like yellow helmets.
That's all right. I think the pants just really threw me for a loop, I guess.

Speaker 1 I think we're all pretty confused by them. And then the icy whites from Green Bay obviously look incredible, but this defense has been the talking point all season, basically, for Steelers fans.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we're not enough people talking about that either. The Bengals and Packers,

Speaker 2 all white, back-to-back weeks. There's an issue with that as well.

Speaker 5 Should that be illegal, you think?

Speaker 1 Maybe.

Speaker 2 This is the worst Steelers defense, and I'm not just saying this. This is statistically.
It's come out today and last night since 1988, and that's 37 years because that was was the year I was born.

Speaker 2 So, if there's any accountability within this organization at all, heads will roll.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 You can't have the worst defense that an organization has had in 37 years and not change anything.

Speaker 5 With that much money.

Speaker 1 They're spending money.

Speaker 2 Thank you, Connor. That is a great point that I forgot to say.

Speaker 1 They paid everyone. What are you changing?

Speaker 1 Week nine now. Where does it start at?

Speaker 2 The top or the bottom?

Speaker 1 Oh, geez. This is our reaction Monday.
We're certainly experiencing, especially with a primetime game and a good opponent. We call all the pieces.
We're supposed to go on a Super Bowl run.

Speaker 1 Why didn't it look like it? Is what Pittsburgh's saying? Let's go to another overreaction, shall we? It's from Josh Dorsey. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact.

Speaker 1 But signing the boys put their sigs out on UCLA's ass.

Speaker 1 Colts continue to roll and beat the Titans. According to source, says they're renaming the Tennessee Shitans.

Speaker 1 Been since 2012 with the last running back MVP, JT, 25 MVP. Life is good in the state of Indiana.
Amen, Josh Dorsey. And Jonathan Taylor, special.
This guy's good. He's so good.
He's so good.

Speaker 1 The angle that we had from where we were sitting on the tightrope down the sideline, he was running away from us. It just didn't make any sense.
Like, just physics.

Speaker 1 didn't make sense with how big he is, how fast he is, how strong he is. Somebody's touching him and him looking down and being able to keep his balance.
He's special. This guy's really good.

Speaker 1 And his celebration is sick, AJ.

Speaker 9 His celebration is amazing.

Speaker 9 All I think of is his knees must feel so good. His patel attendants, everything feels great to be full speed and then go into this little hop situation.
Like, he is awesome.

Speaker 9 His vision, his like, his ability to jump cut and set up his blocks. Like, it's wild watching this dude run.
I think he's honestly only getting better as the year goes as well.

Speaker 1 And the offensive line only getting better, seemingly, as well. There's obviously huge holes.
Now, Jonathan Taylor will create those. Danny Dimes being a threat of a run.

Speaker 1 Connor reminded us also a huge piece of what they have to do in the box with Jonathan Taylor, but he's special to watch.

Speaker 3 And the balance that they have on the offense, I I think their first drive, Jonathan Taylor got the first run, and they went like seven passes in one run on that.

Speaker 3 So it's always, you can't really, you're always on your heels with this defense.

Speaker 3 But the top part of what Josh Dorsey, I believe was his name, said, talk about that blowout, that 50-6 ass kicking of UCLA.

Speaker 1 I don't like that now,

Speaker 3 finally after UCLA gets their ass kicked. Now we get to see the head coach.
I didn't like that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 he carried it at all.

Speaker 1 It's like, All right.

Speaker 3 There we go. It's actually Coach Skipper.

Speaker 1 There you go. It's got his ass.
Tim Skipper, Tim Skipper. And I would just like to say.

Speaker 3 I appreciate that, bro.

Speaker 3 You know, I'm with you, too.

Speaker 1 To his defense? How about him just being cool with New Heisel, kind of doing his entire thing? Like, I think he showed incredible leadership, just being like, hey, this is the thing.

Speaker 1 And then as soon as they lose, I'll tell you, is Tim Skipper now?

Speaker 1 That is. That is kind of bullshit.

Speaker 1 Hey, Tim, you've done a great job over there.

Speaker 2 They couldn't use Jerry's picture because Sig put a cigarette literally out on his forehead.

Speaker 1 Yeah, which could have happened, by the way. I mean, right before half, he gives

Speaker 1 an interview and just breaks down the game. God, tire is pretty good.
Offense is pretty good. Defense is pretty good.
Yeah, we're up 30. Yep.
We got to finish it out. Second half.
Any other questions?

Speaker 1 Just walks away. 27 and a half point favorites.

Speaker 1 This is twice now at home where they should beat teams, and they don't just beat them. They fucking

Speaker 1 pound them. Same with the Colts.
That's the state of their culture, I think. Same with the Colts as well.

Speaker 1 I said that on game day as like my opening take, you know, because it's like each week, what is like the entire opening with a slate that doesn't have a lot of high-profile games, it's like you, you find out who's real.

Speaker 1 Like, I think your culture gets exposed in these low-profile games.

Speaker 1 Whenever your team could maybe kind of dip a little bit, or maybe they're big-time favorites and they don't live up to the hype, it's like you kind of expose who you are, I think, at these moments.

Speaker 1 Indiana has throttled people. I mean, just no questions asked.
That's Signetti's culture, I think.

Speaker 1 And I'll tell you what, people in Indiana who are football people, which there's obviously are a group of football people out here who love basketball as well and racing, but hey love what's going on.

Speaker 1 And Sig couldn't be the more perfect person to lead this Hoosiers team. Could not be the more perfect person for this state, AJ.

Speaker 9 Think about, that's why they locked him up. They knew what they had.
And that's true. Like when they were, what, 27-point favorites, you said, going into this game? 27 and a half, yeah.

Speaker 9 Like that's when you see some great coaching when a team comes out and they do what they were supposed to do and they go annihilate a team that they felt like they had the upper hand going in.

Speaker 9 Like that's a that's another different form of like coaching that you have to handle. Like how do you handle success?

Speaker 9 Now we're the big dogs here. They expect us to win.
Oh, and we went out there and we put a stamp on it and we won by much more than what they even expected. Like that's not an easy thing to do.

Speaker 9 Human nature is to kind of let down and not pay attention to all the little things. And you can tell Sig is on those dudes every single day, attention to detail, all of it.
Like he has them rolling.

Speaker 1 That's talent evaluation too.

Speaker 1 You know, like I think the reason why Sig came out and talked all this shit early is because he said he felt obligated to with what he learned in the first eight hours about everybody's expectations expectations of what Indiana is.

Speaker 1 But whenever he says, Google me, I win, I think that's because he had a lot of faith in his evaluation process in finding the right guys for the process.

Speaker 1 And it feels like he finds everybody with chips on their shoulder, kind of overlooked, and then he coaches the hell out of them. I think he coaches hard.

Speaker 1 I think he's a pretty accountability-driven coach out there. And he finds the guys that can take the coaching and get better and buy into the culture.
He's done it back-to-back years now.

Speaker 1 We assume he's going to do it going forward. His eye for who's right for his program is spectacular.

Speaker 2 And he has never changed he's always been like that i just saw an interview of him this weekend from iup which is uh d2 school in pennsylvania he's the same exact guy but was this the was this the pepsi and milk game yeah

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 nate pargetze he was awesome oh yeah he was incredible he's he's special talent yeah naphetti is a special talent you know just like operating at a very high level they call it the harvard of the south and he said i didn't go to school here but i certainly uh you know bear the the fan uh trauma or whatever he said

Speaker 1 But his intelligence radiates out of his brain whenever he starts talking.

Speaker 2 The Texas being number one.

Speaker 1 Texas is number one in the country, right? And I believe that. Yeah, and pulled it off.
Yeah, because that could sound very stupid or dumb. Pulled it off.
It's like he's Bargettsi's a special talent.

Speaker 1 I talked to him a little bit. He was in between shows.
He was in Chicago on Friday night. He was doing Cincinnati on Saturday night.
So he flew in to do that. Perfect.

Speaker 1 Which we are very, very thankful for him doing. Obviously, special.
Kenny Dirks, you name it.

Speaker 1 Like, there was a lot of asks to perform uh because it was nashville so we we sent out a lot of requests to a lot of people obviously with everybody's gigs and schedules trying to make it happen including the band that was up there with dirks and uh kenny it's like that whole band is a part of other bands and like just kind of piecing it all together for the good of the show is sweet but bargetsi he told me the number of shows he's doing this year

Speaker 1 and they're all arenas it's like he'll do back-to-back nights congratulations nate you did it

Speaker 1 he did it and he is his brain on display. Go ahead, AJ.
I'm sorry I cut that.

Speaker 9 No, I saw him a couple months ago. I think I've told people, like, I saw him a couple of months ago at the basketball arena here at Ohio State, and he was unbelievable.
Start to finish, he was great.

Speaker 9 And he sold out that arena, the whole arena, but then he's in the round. So there's all dudes.
There's probably 20,000 people in there. He had a Saturday and Sunday night show both sold out.

Speaker 9 And I was like, man,

Speaker 9 yeah, I've known of his stuff. I've seen his stuff.
I hadn't seen his stand-up yet live. He was unbelievable from top to bottom.

Speaker 1 Special. He's special.
He's like a special talent. Doesn't swear.
Super, super smart. Callbacks, everything.
And his delivery, he's not a nerd. You know, like sometimes super smart

Speaker 1 comics have a nerd delivery. It's like, nah, he's a fucking genius.
This guy, expert level. brain in this entire thing.
I don't know how his picks did, but I appreciated that every single one of them.

Speaker 1 And then he was trying to recruit that five-star Jared Curtis. Yeah.
Is that what you're going to say, Dan?

Speaker 5 When BYU Iowa State came up, it got to him, and he just didn't give a fuck about the game. He went right to Jared Curtis.

Speaker 1 So he had Jared Curtis written down on his notes. He didn't have as many notes as everybody else.
People have been showing up with notes since Timothy Chalamay.

Speaker 1 So Timothy Chalamet has kind of changed the way people feel about what they're allowed to do.

Speaker 1 Because Timothy Chalamay obviously came in, prepared, had notes, was very, and we were all appreciative of that. I think a lot of these celebrities are like, I can't have notes.

Speaker 1 I got to go in there and act like I know what I'm doing. And then they get up there and they see my shit.
It's like, yo, I got notes on all this. Like,

Speaker 1 We are living in this thing. You should definitely take notes.
These are a lot of teams. So like people have been coming up with notes.
And it's like very cool to see the prep that they put in.

Speaker 1 Jared Curtis, that kid's name, was written real big, just like right at the bottom. Only thing I saw like in Big Marker.
And I saw it like as soon as he sat down. I was like, good notes.

Speaker 1 And then I heard him hit it first time, Jared Curtis. He's like, he's here on a visit.
He could stay at my house. He could do this entire thing.
And he moves on to the next. next one.

Speaker 1 Then he hits it again. I look over at his sheet and I see Jared Curtis.
I point at it. He goes, oh yeah, we need him.
We need him.

Speaker 1 it's like he feels uh he's like a part of the recruiting mission on there i appreciated that clark lee too he was good three days a week water or fasting yeah he seems like uh interesting yeah he's pretty squared away that guy's pretty disciplined very very disciplined uh nate went seven and two is that what you said wow

Speaker 1 him and jelly roll i think that'll be tied

Speaker 4 jelly bow jelly six and two jelly went eight and two maybe we had ten picks the one then he went seven and two so i don't know which one's picked minnesota too yeah fucking layup and he kind of just gave one away there but didn't he say these are same schools he did which he's also wrong about that but that's okay he's a he's a fucking talent he's a talent i was lingering they are they are really lingering i'll tell you what boy that was a fun game to watch i feel i told these guys i feel like i got a pretty good uh beat on the pj fleck tenure at minnesota kind of know when you know hey probably gonna beat nebraska here and then boy did they just fucking lay an egg against against the Hawks.

Speaker 4 Hawks, you know, had a rushing touchdown, a passing touchdown, a punt return touchdown, and a pick six all in the first half. So it was a laugh for pretty early.

Speaker 1 It was an Iowa clinic. It was.
It was.

Speaker 4 And you made the succinct point on game day, Pat, of

Speaker 4 Iowa's always lingering. You know, no one wants to believe in them.
Hey, everybody thinks this team stinks. They don't score points.
You know, they're going to win every game six to nothing.

Speaker 4 They're not. And boy, do they got a big one in a couple weeks here with Oregon coming to Kinnick.

Speaker 1 And I'll tell you what, you win that one.

Speaker 4 You fucking, you pack your bags to whatever SEC school you're going to be traveling to for the playoff.

Speaker 1 Okay, so when is that game against Oregon? November 8th. Which is bye week this week.
Then you got that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Oregon and I will both have buys this week.

Speaker 1 Oh, two weeks to prepare for each other. Bigo.

Speaker 4 And now it's just kind of waiting on, hey, what time is this game going to be at? Is it going to be a night game at Kinnick,

Speaker 1 which they fare very well?

Speaker 4 Or, you know, do we maybe get one of those sleepy, cold, dreary afternoons?

Speaker 4 Yeah, 9 o'clock local start time for Oregon.

Speaker 1 We'll see. I don't know.
Oregon's been able to handle that. They have.
I don't think they would be certainly worried. And Oregon is certainly a good team.
You know who else is?

Speaker 1 It never gets talked about. Your hair looks awesome, AJ.
Just saw it from the side. Great fade.
You're doing great things up there. The Ohio State Buckeyes never get talked about.
I mean, never, ever.

Speaker 1 Number one team in the country, reigning national champs. Julian Sane's completed like 87% of his passes or something like that.
Everybody's so good.

Speaker 1 Their defense hasn't really given up a touchdown other than the Illinois game. That's literally the only team that's really scored on them.

Speaker 1 And nobody's even talking about plus 225 to win the national championship. Jesus.
There's 135 schools that are vying for the national. They're plus 225.
Nobody's talking about them, AJ.

Speaker 1 Do you guys like that or not like that?

Speaker 9 I like that. I would assume the coaches and everyone else likes that as well.
The players can still, you know, like handle success. How do you handle success? And their expectations are so high.

Speaker 9 The standard is so high, which is a great thing. They are the reason why the standard is that way.

Speaker 9 But yeah, it's another different coaching challenge, I think, to try to keep your team dialed in and never let your foot off the gas. But yeah,

Speaker 9 you don't really hear about it. I'm sure

Speaker 9 I have Ohio bias. I live here, whatever, so I don't hear it as much nationally, but it's true.

Speaker 9 Like I don't, Julian Saint, I don't think gets the pub he deserves, and I don't think the team really does either. But I think that's a great thing because we know like

Speaker 9 all that matters is the end of the season for Ohio State.

Speaker 1 What was this? Last year or two years ago, we didn't talk about Georgia

Speaker 1 on game days. We didn't talk about Georgia for the first six or seven weeks.
And I, Georgia people are going to be surprised to hear this. I mentioned like,

Speaker 1 are we going to talk about Georgia? Like Georgia, I feel like they're very good. Georgia season's coming is basically what they say in the entire college football world.

Speaker 1 I think Ohio State's in that same department. Like Ohio State season's coming.
We're definitely going to talk about them. It's like, well, should we set the seed that they're very good?

Speaker 1 Everybody knows they're very good. And I think that is kind of just like the national conversation.
It's like, Ohio State's really good. Who have they played? Well, they knocked off Texas.

Speaker 1 Well, what's Texas?

Speaker 1 That's a good question.

Speaker 1 How is Texas? What are they? Good question. And then you talk about the defense.
They never give up any points. Yeah, but who have they? It's It's like there's always that.

Speaker 1 So I guess Ohio State season comes in a bit, but they're dominating people.

Speaker 3 Georgia won that year, right? Yeah. In dominant fashion.
Yes. That was kind of the same thing in the NBA a few years ago.
Well, a couple of years ago.

Speaker 3 The Celtics, yeah, nobody kind of talking about had short odds, just like Ohio State. So

Speaker 3 history kind of tells us.

Speaker 1 That maybe they are dominant.

Speaker 1 Maybe this team is very good. And shout out to Ryan Day being able to continue to have success after getting to the mountaintop.
Let's go to another overreaction, shall we? It's from Brandon.

Speaker 1 He's a craft handler. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact.

Speaker 1 Everything in Atlanta needs to go. Ownership, coaches, starters, and the most expensive backup ever.
Just sell the whole package and bulldoze the dumbass stadium.

Speaker 1 Hawks and his stupid soccer team can leave too. Atlanta ruins sports teams.
Fuck.

Speaker 1 All right, Brandon.

Speaker 1 That's a good stadium, but I would not bulldoze that stadium.

Speaker 2 That's a frustrating football team, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 the Carolina Pants. And then we're up.
And then we get killed by the Dolphins. This guy has pink eye.
He has a swollen eye and he's wearing a visor and he kills us. Tyree kills not even on team.

Speaker 1 They're going to quit. They're going to do this entire thing.
They're coming into our house, beautiful stadium, and then they lose. Boom, that's frustrating.

Speaker 1 I can see how Falcons fans are little upside down. You're going to be okay, craft handler.

Speaker 1 Let's go to the next one here. This is from

Speaker 1 69 here, okay? No limit Zay, 99.

Speaker 1 On that note, before we go any further, no limit one. I believe.

Speaker 1 Okay, as a

Speaker 1 as a person that grew up in that era, you can take this down here for a second, Foxy.

Speaker 1 As a person that grew up in that era, I would like to say I completely forgot that Snoop Dogg was a member of No Limit there for a bit as the Versus was taking place this past weekend.

Speaker 1 I got a chance to catch like the last 30 minutes or so of it, 25 minutes or so. I love the verses.
Okay, I'm a big fan. Through COVID, those are huge moments for us all to watch.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's a great, great thing. Cash Money taking on No Limit, massive piece of my life.
So I was excited to get in there.

Speaker 1 Snoop Dogg showing up for Master P, everybody showing up for Master P was certainly a thing. And then the

Speaker 1 just

Speaker 1 the nostalgia of, I remember when every song that this group of people put out was just

Speaker 1 hype as fuck. Oh, yeah.
Just here we go. We're going.
And then Cash Money, Juvenile looked good.

Speaker 1 Juvenile was working. I mean, he had to now.
He had to carry a lot of the load over there with Bird Man Manning Fresh. Good to see him as well.
By the way,

Speaker 1 I remember when they got,

Speaker 1 I mean, just that whole run, they took over every summer, basically, of our lives. lives.
So to see them back was good. I think No Limit won, though.

Speaker 1 Debutch, your thoughts on watching the entire thing? A lot of people saying no Weezy. Gonna be tough to have Cash Money win that thing.

Speaker 1 I mean, Snoop coming in at the very end and then leaving. I mean, that was quite a moment in that versus.

Speaker 3 That was kind of like a game seven moment. I think going into it, you saw, okay, Cash Money, too many hits over the decade, still pretty revolent in today's music.

Speaker 3 So it'll probably be a sweep, maybe a gentleman's sweep. And then as it kind of got going on, later in the game, No Limit kind of came along.

Speaker 3 Then once Snoop came in and then they played a little Wayne verse on a melee without Lil Wayne being there, I think that kind of took some wind out of their cells. Juvie did show up.

Speaker 3 I think him and Mia X was the MVPs of the night, but it was a great little flashback right there for the old heads.

Speaker 1 It was great. Oh, yeah.
I had a great time. I was just looking at my phone, just staring at my phone.
Oh, I forgot about this.

Speaker 1 And I also did not. Remember that Snoop was on that song.
I've heard that song a thousand times. So many stadiums.

Speaker 1 I can't sing the the song. Sure, sure.
It'd be fun to be able to karaoke,

Speaker 1 but you just can't do it. No, you can't do it.

Speaker 1 Fudge them. Can't.
No. Can't even.
No. I mean, that's a massive piece of the entire.

Speaker 3 So, so.

Speaker 1 It is the whole song. Yeah, and then you're with.
Yeah. Because they're not yours and ours.
You know, not really.

Speaker 1 But I could certainly.

Speaker 3 You had to know exactly where you were, whatever venue that you were at, you had to be, you know, with your people.

Speaker 1 What's that? Yeah, at that time? Yeah. Like that song? Oh, yeah, it wasn't a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 Yeah, there's not fighting to a lot of these songs. Wasn't a bunch of phones out during that time.
No, there was not. It got fighting at some point, but most times it was just some.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Kind of like a Michael's eye version of the Mosh Pit.
Used to be much more hype of a society, I think.

Speaker 1 I watch NBA.

Speaker 1 Young Boy, is that his arena shows?

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's like the young kids' version, like Lil Wayne.

Speaker 1 I'm watching it, yeah, and I'm like, okay, so there is still, okay, we still got that going on. And some arenas nowadays, like, nope, that's not going on.

Speaker 1 we're not doing that I like to see that type of stuff now obviously

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 motivating music is how I view it

Speaker 1 is going to be different for the modern age than it is for us as old us old ass people now you know like we're not going to listen to their generation in the same way because they've lived a completely different life than us that's why that versus is so cool like just going back in time basically and just kind of that's why when i talked to carson daly i met him the other week yeah i was like man so reminiscent of a different time when everything was kind of banging.

Speaker 1 But only the bangers survive, which is why that freshman is good. Who's up next for that? No clue.
Complex bought it.

Speaker 1 That's a good play. It was a complex versus.
They're all up on stage. Big crowd.
One main freshman. We got to get out of here in seven minutes.

Speaker 3 That's the thing I didn't like. I feel like it could have gone on for another hour, number one.
And then the location. Even at that tweet, I think they say Louisiana.

Speaker 3 Like both of these groups were from Louisiana, New Orleans area. So you would think having the crowd there, because the crowd sucked.
Crowd absolutely sucked. It was in Vegas.

Speaker 3 You know, young people probably don't know a lot of the songs that were kind of some, you know, album cuts, but it was a great flashback, a great time while some football was on.

Speaker 3 I was tweeting some things up.

Speaker 1 What the hell are you talking about? Football's on right now. It was your tweet.
It was your tweet that I saw. I think you said Juvie's in game shape or something like that.
And I was like, Juvie?

Speaker 1 Juvie? Juvenile? Oh, shit. And then I go, I couldn't find it.
Had to go to their Instagram to find the live thing. I'm like, boom, let me get in there.

Speaker 1 As soon as I get in there, Manny Fresh is walking around. I'm like, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't even know all the drama that was potentially about to unfold. Who's there? Who's not there? And all of it.
I mean, obviously, that is the shout out first. All right, let's move on.

Speaker 1 No limits day, 99. Hashtag I don't want to overreact.
But

Speaker 1 the state of Louisiana football is in shambles right now. Brian Kelly, summer sausage-looking ass out of here.

Speaker 1 Kellen Moore, strong head ass, just got here. And we are about ready to throw his ass out the club.

Speaker 1 Football gods help us. All we have is YB B and LSU women people.

Speaker 1 All right, well, enjoy it all, Zay.

Speaker 1 Enjoy it all down there.

Speaker 1 I love that.

Speaker 1 I love that there's a little Louisiana accent in the tweet, dude. Yeah.
Yeah, bow.

Speaker 1 Head ass, looking ass. Get him the fuck out of our town.
Kelly Moe's in trouble down there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I see Shuck a little yesterday.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh. He's starting going forward, right? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Oh, you already said that?

Speaker 4 I believe they did make that decision.

Speaker 1 So That's not right. The thought you want Rattler to give him a little bit more opportunity?

Speaker 5 I just don't want Shuck to get his head taken off.

Speaker 1 I mean, whatever. I mean, they're one and seven with Rattler.

Speaker 5 I personally think he's kind of sweet. I'm worried Shuck is going to be looking left and someone's going to be coming right, just based off what I saw yesterday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I understand that there's a chance that team's not going to be good for a bit. Wasn't that the expectation going in, though, that they weren't going to be good, right? Longest thoughts.

Speaker 9 No one, I don't think a whole lot of people gave him much of a chance heading into the season. So, yeah, it's not a shock, is it?

Speaker 1 I don't know. It sounds like Zay said, I don't care how bad they're supposed to be.
It's worse than they could imagine.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and unfortunately, they kind of put all their chips into like, well, whatever. We'll have the worst record in the NFL, and we'll draft Arch number one overall next year.

Speaker 4 And he'll be starting here like his grandpa did. And now that's kind of down the pooper, too.
So,

Speaker 1 you know, not good.

Speaker 5 Let Taysom Hill spin it. I mean, what are we doing? Now is the time to be like, you know what? Fuck it.
Put Taysom Hill.

Speaker 1 That's tough. I mean, that's like what Max Crosby did that to Mac Jones.
All right, let's move along. Sorry, Zay.
He's on Team No Limit as well, it appeared.

Speaker 1 At Josh Father, 0017, you know, like Godfather.

Speaker 1 Hashtag, I don't want to react.

Speaker 1 Bills dropping a 40 burger on the Panthers don't mean shit. AO probably out for the year.
Allen doesn't look good.

Speaker 1 And Cook is our savior, but didn't touch the ball in the last 12 minutes of the game versus the Falcons. We're losing by 50 this week.
What? They play the Chiefs. What?

Speaker 1 Why'd you pick this one up?

Speaker 4 This was the top what? There really really weren't too many.

Speaker 1 This is the top one? It was.

Speaker 4 I came back and saw this one multiple times. I don't know if people kind of just acted like the Panthers suck, so that doesn't matter at all, but I saw a lot of, you know, a lot of this.

Speaker 4 I just kept coming back to this. Wow.
They're not happy with the Panthers performance, and they got the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 40-9. I know.

Speaker 15 What more can you ask for?

Speaker 1 40-9.

Speaker 1 That's Overreaction Monday, AJ. These people know whether or not they can win a Super Bowl.
Let's go to the next one, shall we? This one's from Caleb. He's a Broncos fan.
Caleb.

Speaker 1 Hashtag, I don't want to react. But

Speaker 1 the Denver Broncos are four points away from 8-0. We run the AFC West this year.
Bo motherfucking Knicks is a dog. The defense is special.
Just give us the Lombardi already.

Speaker 1 I like to hear that out of a fan base. I like to hear that out of fan base a little bit.

Speaker 1 Now, we were one of their losses, the Colts, so let's assume that we would have got one more point than you regardless.

Speaker 1 But I do like that this Broncos team is exactly what people were expecting out of them coming into the year, AJ.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I mean, I think it's good. Do you trust Bo Nicks to lead him on a rundown, you know, to the playoffs? Can he take him to the Super Bowl, you think?

Speaker 1 I like Bo. What do you say?

Speaker 9 I do, too. I do, too.
I do. I'm saying I don't think everybody does for some reason when I hear people talk about him.
I don't think they fully trust him. I do.
I think the dude's awesome.

Speaker 9 There's a reason he had a million reps in college. He's played for a long time.
I think a lot of that, I put

Speaker 9 a lot into that. I think the fact that he has seen a lot in college, and he's with Sean Payton, honestly.
And

Speaker 9 like we can say a million times, their defense is legit.

Speaker 9 If you have a defense that is able to play at such an elite level i think you always have a chance did somebody get hurt on defense for denver yeah certainly

Speaker 1 he came back no

Speaker 1 he didn't no he missed the second half okay so we'll obviously you should have asked shafter about that that's i love those unis too yeah those are good throwback fans

Speaker 1 those are good throwbacks i like the broncos fans are happy and cowboys fans what are they

Speaker 5 what are the cowboys mediocre they need a pass rusher they need a lot on defense trevon diggs i are that kind of snuck in the wire on Saturday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what was that about?

Speaker 3 Profession at home, right? Yeah, so we don't know this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's been a lot of talk around that. All right, let's go to the next overreaction.
This is from Bryce Dean14. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but the birds are back, bitch.

Speaker 1 Siriani and Petolo still suck, but Saquon Barkley is running wild.

Speaker 1 Tank the tank Bigsby, ready to come in and lighten the load. Jalen Hurts, MVP level, the past two weeks, and the Cowboys suck.
Life couldn't get better, brother. All right.

Speaker 1 Head coach and offense bored, don't know shit, but everybody else is good, including the the offense that's awesome i appreciate that out of philly fans you think they'll ever come around on siriani or some people who ever come around on siriani aj i mean they'll come around like every time he wins a super bowl and then the second he loses a game they'll be back out and even they're winning games though they're even winning games yeah you're right it's just the way it goes i guess uh petullo going under center debuts this is what everybody said they needed to do they do it they have success why don't they love him yeah it makes it up look petullo he just got to keep his blinders on keep calling games in will the people against nick come around around?

Speaker 3 Probably not. Maybe after three peep, but they've been in two of the last four Super Bowls, fresh off of one right now.

Speaker 3 So yeah, once Barkley gets rolling, I think Eagles fans want to see that, obviously. And then the passing game going as well, I think they'll be happy.

Speaker 1 What were they calling Patolo a couple weeks back?

Speaker 4 Oh, Kevin, you blow at Colin Place.

Speaker 1 Oh, you blow at Call of Place. That was rude.
Yeah, ridiculous. I didn't like that one bit.
Sounds like they're still not completely sold on. Let's go to the next ever reaction.

Speaker 1 This is from ChoplaRoo. Hashtag, I don't want to ever react to, but there's actually nothing to react to.

Speaker 1 The Dallas Cowboys have been letting me down for 35 years that there is just numbness. All right.
Sorry to hear that, Chop LaRue.

Speaker 1 Sorry, Chop.

Speaker 3 Tough spot to be.

Speaker 1 He's desensitized to the suck.

Speaker 4 Oh, man. Just last week, too, coming off a big win.

Speaker 3 We're going to trade for Max Crosby or Trey Hedrickson.

Speaker 4 And then they just get absolutely fucking shit-stomped. And now there's just no hope anymore.

Speaker 1 Now they're numb. Yeah.
Let's go to Barendir at BarendirX.

Speaker 1 Hashtag I don't want to overreact. But Lamar is coming back Thursday, and it's belt to ass for Miami.
Ravens run the table and win the North. We're all the way back, baby.

Speaker 1 It's still hashtag fire hardball season after, though.

Speaker 1 So there's been a trend here. Seems like there's a trend.

Speaker 1 Seems like there's a trend. Yeah, we win.
We'd like that. But also, don't love at all what this guy's doing.
That's the head coach of this entire thing.

Speaker 1 Are fans ever going to be happy from what you're reading there, Tysha?

Speaker 4 No, and I think, you know, now, especially with what's going on in college football, I think it's just amplified.

Speaker 4 Like, there's always, you know, some of this a little bit, but people are seeing, like, well, fuck it. We can just fire a coach right now.

Speaker 1 Who cares?

Speaker 4 We'll find someone who's better. That's that's the way it goes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I don't know where all those coaches exist, but hopefully they'll find them. And here's the last one: this is from AJ Dahlmeyer at the age 55.

Speaker 1 Hashtag, I don't want to react, but Tucker Kraft is the best tight end in the league. National tight end day, and this man put the tight ends on his back.
Death taxes, Tucker Kraft, yak.

Speaker 1 Packers bringing home the Super Bowl. Oh, and hey, AP voters, rank the hawkeyes, you cowards.
Hashtag yak God. Hashtag go pack go.

Speaker 1 And that appears to be Tucker Kraft having a good old time in a car hole. So this is your burner.

Speaker 4 No, this is not my burner. I just said, you know what? This guy's making some very salient points.
I think this should probably be in there.

Speaker 1 Tucker Kraft's a beast. Shout out to all the overreactions.
We appreciate you guys.

Speaker 1 I love Tucker Craft, man. So good.

Speaker 5 Love that face mask, too.

Speaker 1 The triple thing on the side? Does he have the triple T? Yeah, he's got Real Moxie.

Speaker 1 So much swag. And he's impossible to tackle.
AJ, what are you doing? You got to go saw the knees up, but he might knee you in the head.

Speaker 9 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There's no easy way to get this guy down.
He's a big old dude as well.

Speaker 9 Helmet is awesome. That helmet is good.
Aaron had look at Jordan's cleats.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's clean. Yeah, Tucker Kraft's got the Moxie, the swag, the durability, the gritty.

Speaker 3 They had no chance of those jerseys.

Speaker 1 I agree. Just coming out of the locker room.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they went in halftime. I think a couple of them just probably walked past the mirror afterwards.

Speaker 1 Fuck him doing.

Speaker 1 Oh, geez.

Speaker 1 Shit. Shock yourself.
We're done tackling. We're done doing anything.
We're not wearing these. They put us out in public like this.
This is unbelievable.

Speaker 1 Aaron, new helmet there, right? This is a new helmet for him?

Speaker 9 I don't know. I was looking at that.
Is it different? I know the black pads inside make it look weird.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he switched helmets for the Bengals game. So maybe go back.

Speaker 9 I know they made him.

Speaker 1 They made him transition out of old school helmets. Aaron's been awesome.

Speaker 2 None of it's Aaron's fault, but, you know,

Speaker 1 if it's not broke.

Speaker 1 I did like Chris Collinsworth talking about how Aaron has been, Aaron was pretty proud of the mobility in extending the play because they had the time from snap to throw and then the time from snap to throw the last couple weeks.

Speaker 1 And Aaron's been able to extend the plays like he was back in the day. So it has been fun to watch him do his thing for this Pittsburgh Steelers team.

Speaker 1 Vastly different than what we think of the Steelers team. Offense doing well, defense doing ass.

Speaker 2 Yeah, before the season, if I would have said, hey, you know, there's a weakness, it would have been the offense. And that has not been the case.
And Aaron's been awesome. So, you know, shout out him.

Speaker 2 Shout out, DK. He's been great.
But yeah, the defense just sucks.

Speaker 3 I love how pissed off Aaron gets, too.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, that's back to the pass.

Speaker 2 What did he call someone last night?

Speaker 1 I think he said cops stutter, like something around like cops stuttering. I think always angry.
When you're going to cop something, like steal something, and then you slow down.

Speaker 1 So you stutter in the copping of something. So I think he said, you cop stutter.
Yeah, he said you cop stuttered.

Speaker 1 You can't be doing that, obviously. So that's crazy.
They even ran slow-mo going into commercial of him saying that a couple times.

Speaker 1 A couple of times, him talking about the stuttering around there. How do you think Aaron feels about it all? Honestly, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 9 I think he looks like he physically feels great. Like how he is moving.
I think every week he feels like it looks like he's moving a little bit better and better and his arm is very live.

Speaker 9 I don't know. I'm sure.
I honestly would bet that he's sitting there thinking like, hey, this is, it's a long season. I'm not going to ride the roller coaster of ups and downs.

Speaker 9 I think he has trust in the defense. He knows they'll figure it out probably when it matters.
And

Speaker 1 yeah, I think he's proven a lot of people wrong with how he's playing.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But also, life would be a lot better if we're winning. You know, life's a lot better when we're winning.

Speaker 1 The amount of passion, we talk about his reaction and saying, talking about the stuttering of the copping of stuff,

Speaker 1 he's all in. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. I mean, it is, there's no lack or of disinterest or anything like that for him.
It feels like he is very, very, very, very dialed in.

Speaker 3 Absolutely. Fully invested.
He came into the season, at least saying this would be his last year. I don't know where he stands on that now, but you talk about how he feels.

Speaker 3 I want to know how Cam Hayward and TJ Watt and those boys over there feel because it's got to be a tough Monday sitting back and watching this tape and obviously, you know, having those hard conversations with each other.

Speaker 3 But you think you have the talent in that room. Guys are already making that money.
It's a lot of like established vets who have played a ton of down.

Speaker 3 So it's not like you're dependent on young kids to try to figure it out and play a role. So I'm interested to see how that unit and that leadership leadership turns around that side of the show.

Speaker 2 It's funny you said Cam actually said there's a lack of buy-in and heart on the defensive side.

Speaker 3 That's very concerning.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Going into mid-season.

Speaker 1 A lack of buy-in and heart on his defense side.

Speaker 9 Is that what the scheme you think? What is that? Does that mean what's with the scheme, or what is that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, like people aren't buying into the scheme or the culture. I mean, the scheme's been a scheme for 40 fucking years at this point.
Yeah. Julian Edmonds knows what they're doing.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Everybody does.

Speaker 2 It's funny. The defense coordinator, everywhere he's been, the defense got worse.

Speaker 1 Sounds like we know who Ton's not happy with. Jeez.
And on that note, that's Overreaction Monday.

Speaker 1 Good luck tonight, AJ, with your Kansas City Chiefs minus 10.

Speaker 7 10.

Speaker 9 They can do it. Debut said it's probably a three-score game.
They're going to win by three scores.

Speaker 1 If it continues the trend of this week for the NFL season, yeah, there's a chance that's that place is going to be so loud.

Speaker 9 Imagine tonight, after the anthem, how loud that's going to be. It's going to be a very intimidating place to put.

Speaker 1 Marcus Mariota is going to save.

Speaker 5 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 9 He is awesome.

Speaker 1 I do like Mariota. I'm down one on AJ, so obviously I have to pick the opposite of what he picks in this particular case.
So give me these commanders. Let's go, boys.
Let's fucking go, boys.

Speaker 1 Nobody thinks we're going to be able to do this. Nobody.

Speaker 1 They're better than they've ever been on that other side. Tennis Swift's going to be there.
Damn, I took. Joe Buck's going to be on the call.
Dan Orlofsky traveled out to an RV. Yeah, he did.

Speaker 1 Just to do NFL Live. It's a big night.

Speaker 1 Everybody's there for the Patrick Mahomes Show.

Speaker 1 Now, I will tell you, Commanders, I am excited to watch that as well. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. But need you guys to keep this thing close.

Speaker 1 Maybe win. Fuck it.

Speaker 5 Maybe. I mean, Chapter said it.
Mariotta's already won a playoff game in Arrowhead. It's not going to be louder tonight than it was when they put in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're right against Alex.

Speaker 1 It's true. Yeah, you're mine.

Speaker 1 In the

Speaker 1 cheese.

Speaker 1 And all you think is Jeez.

Speaker 1 They're everywhere.

Speaker 2 Super Bowl favorites, MVP favorite?

Speaker 1 How could they lose? Who's Who's banging drum? Great question. Rob Riggle.
Is he? No, I think it's

Speaker 5 what was the show?

Speaker 1 Eric Stone Street. A little respect, you piece of street.
There you go. Or Jay Sutt.
Jay Suck, Jay Sutt. Paul Rudd.

Speaker 12 Yeah, a lot of them.

Speaker 1 Who's the guy? Melissa Etheridge. Who's whammy

Speaker 1 anchor man

Speaker 1 champion?

Speaker 5 Oh, David Kechner?

Speaker 1 I believe he's Camp City guy. Yeah, yeah.
What if David Kechner's on the drum tonight? You guys would be mom boys. Bad news.
You guys would

Speaker 1 bad news for the commanders. Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's Chase Hall of Famer Christian Okoye.

Speaker 1 Okay. Oh, he's going to be dashed.
The Nightmare?

Speaker 1 You mean the Nightmare? That's correct, yeah. Wow.
Oh, shit. I don't like that one bit on my Commanders.
Trans Daylam, right? Or no? Change them. I'm looking at it.
I've dehydrated myself pretty good.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah, yeah. It's been pretty.
Yeah, shout out to NFL Mexico. Moo Chase Garosius Mimi Megas, honestly.

Speaker 1 It's a cool jacket.

Speaker 3 I thought you're speaking Spanish on my timeline.

Speaker 1 Zito, good work on that on that dubbing.

Speaker 1 You know who this is for?

Speaker 3 Mariota.

Speaker 2 Mexico?

Speaker 9 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Both of them?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I don't know how that goes. I don't know how that goes.
Both of them. We're going to stay out of any international waters on the shop.

Speaker 1 This one's for...

Speaker 1 This one's for the commanders. Okay.
Come on now. Okay.

Speaker 1 Plus 10 and a half.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's a low rim.

Speaker 1 It's a probably harder

Speaker 1 Too easy

Speaker 1 don't overshoot it.

Speaker 9 Don't overshoot it. It wouldn't be that good.

Speaker 1 I think if you were to think about this shot, I got to take

Speaker 1 24 inches off this because it's down at 8 feet. It was up at 1050, so 24 inches.
So I should turn my elbow in a little bit tighter. Smart.

Speaker 2 At that distance, the Coriolis effect comes into.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 9 You're in an elevated position, too, on the stage.

Speaker 1 So even more.

Speaker 1 Out altitude and at altitude, so that is what I mean. There's multiple windage, yeah.
There's no wind in here. Thank God, needed it a little bit ago.

Speaker 1 I was looking for a grease when I had that thing on just anywhere. Can I find some air?

Speaker 1 All right, so this one's commanders, plus 10 and a half. Okay,

Speaker 1 okay,

Speaker 9 maybe Mexico.

Speaker 5 Good adjustment right there.

Speaker 1 Oh, live right there, hand in the hoop.

Speaker 1 That was a little strong.

Speaker 1 That was it. Yep, bang

Speaker 5 bucket.

Speaker 5 Nice. That went in.

Speaker 1 No line.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Should have went a little stronger.

Speaker 4 That really was the perfect parabola.

Speaker 1 You shoot the wrong size ball.

Speaker 2 That hoop's only used to small.

Speaker 9 There it is.

Speaker 1 Calibrated.

Speaker 1 Too far. Oh, jeez.

Speaker 5 It's an eight-foot hoop. Commanders.
It's hard.

Speaker 1 We are commanders.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 3 Clemson get the shit beat out of it.

Speaker 1 I didn't like it from the very beginning. You guys heard me.
I didn't like it at all. It's true.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I like what you're doing. Yeah, there you go.
Yep. That's a U-ball hoop.
That's a bad one. Ball asks me for that hoop.

Speaker 3 Finish off the shite slate.

Speaker 9 Get Debo to do a 360 dunk or something on that eight-footer.

Speaker 1 From your free throw line? You're asking for Achilles. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That might take the wall down. Debone heard that.
He's going to try to do that today. And when this wall wall falls, exactly, Debun, that's on you, AJ.
Okay?

Speaker 1 The whole brick wall falls.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's not a brick from the room, though. Whole brick wall falls.

Speaker 5 I just hope his body doesn't make a mess.

Speaker 1 So this one is act.

Speaker 1 This one is.

Speaker 1 This one is action. Here we go, guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah, cock the elbow. There it is.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. It's the elevated position.
That's all. That's all.

Speaker 5 That's just the elevator.

Speaker 1 You got to keep it gas.

Speaker 4 You didn't cock your elbow enough on the first one.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah. See, lock it and load it.

Speaker 1 Good line. Good line.
I don't feel good about any of it tonight.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 8 Throw football.

Speaker 8 I might as well punch.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you might. Yeah, there you go.
It's a hut.

Speaker 5 Got it.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 9 that's pretty good.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 no.

Speaker 1 Straight online.

Speaker 1 That was bad. Okay.

Speaker 1 This one's for all the mark on. Okay.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 I'm changing my pick.

Speaker 5 So commanders minus three. No.

Speaker 1 Chiefs.

Speaker 1 Alternate line.

Speaker 3 Chiefs minus 17 and a half.

Speaker 1 You all spread it? 16 and a half, sorry. Be a friend, tell a friend something else might change your life for in a second.

Speaker 1 That was poor performance

Speaker 1 i don't like it it's eight foot hoop that's what i'm saying though i gotta be able to mentally adjust to that

Speaker 1 i gotta be able to change look at the court it's

Speaker 1 solitary

Speaker 1 just misses failures everywhere

Speaker 1 we will and we'll be back tomorrow to overreact to what happens tonight as the washington commanders keep it close

Speaker 1 maybe even win there's a chance Yep. Against Kansas City Chiefs.
All right, AJ, you're the man. We love you, buddy.

Speaker 9 Thank you guys. Love you guys.

Speaker 1 Hey, thank you for speaking about Nick.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I know that's not easy, but

Speaker 1 I think it's good for people to hear, you know. So I appreciate you doing that.
And I know we're only playing for a little bit of time. I should have, I appreciate you doing it.

Speaker 1 Just know that we all fucking love you and all his family and friends, dude. We are so sorry that that happened, okay?

Speaker 9 Appreciate it. Yeah, man.
Thank you.

Speaker 9 Yeah. Nick had a gigantic impact on legit so many people.
Like that's hopefully, I think, very, very positive influence on everyone. Even people don't know him.

Speaker 9 So, that's what I love seeing through all this, all the terribleness. Like, you see the impact he did have on people.
It's awesome. I got to see it firsthand.

Speaker 1 Fucking good dude. All right.
Be a friend, tell a friend, something nice about my change of life. We're in this thing together.
Team on me. Team on three.
One, two, three, team. Say goodbye.

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