The Pat McAfee Show

PMS 2.0 1315 - Sweet 16 Preview, MLB Opening Day, Koa Peat Makes His College Commitment, Seth Greenberg, NCAA Heavyweight Wrestling Champion Wyatt Hendrickson, & Jeff Passan

March 27, 2025 2h 54m
On today’s show, Pat and the boys preview the Sweet 16 games tonight, chat about MLB Opening Day, and discuss all the biggest news stories happening around the NFL as Russell Wilson had his introductory press conference as a New York Giant. Joining the show to make his college commitment is top 10 basketball recruit in the 2025 class, Koa Peat. Next, long time college basketball coach, 2x ACC coach of the Year, and ESPN College Basketball analyst, Seth Greenberg joins the show to chat about tonight’s Sweet 16 games, which teams he thinks are playing with the most momentum right now, how difficult some of these coaches jobs are with the transfer portal being open while they’re trying to prepare for a tournament game, and some of his best plays for the night. Later, NCAA Heavyweight Wrestling Champion, 3x All-American, and current second Lieutenant in the United States Air Force, Wyatt Hendrickson joins the show to chat about his experience winning the National Championship over Gable Steveson, his military commitments, what he’s going to do now, and his mindset going into that final match with Steveson. Later, ESPN MLB Insider Jeff Passan joins the show to chat about about MLB Opening Day, why everyone hates the Dodgers right now, the issues with the Pittsburgh Pirates, his thoughts on the Yankees this year, and why the American League is a toss up this year. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’re off the next two days for the NCAA Tournament. Enjoy all the games, we’ll see you Monday. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this sweet 16 Thursday, March 27th, 2025, this program starts now.
Sports! Are happening all around us and obviously yesterday we had a LeBronversation that caused conversation around the entire sports world and we are incredibly lucky to be the ones that were able to, you seemingly showcase a side of lebron that not a lot of people have ever seen ourselves included there's been a lot of reaction you know i think a lot of people have said holy hell lebron is a human uh what what about the i think never really but he seems to be a normal dude somehow after having 22 years in the nba let alone more than half of his life being publicized for every single moment he's made, somehow he's remained a guy who could sit down in a room of people he does not know and have a normal conversation and react in ways that any one of us or any of our friends would be able to. Now there is a difference.
He's 6'9". Sure.

He's 215 pounds.

He's one of the most successful sports stars in the history of the world.

He's one of the most popular humans

in the history of the world.

He's one of the most successful humans

in the history of the world.

For sure.

Came from Section 8 housing all the way to this.

One of the biggest American dream stories in the history of the world for sure came from section 8 housing all the way to this one of the biggest american dream stories in the history of the world yeah knowing everything he does is uh going to be chatted about and reacted to literally everything he does how he eats how he reads how he sees how he speaks how he operates how he wins games yeah well he passed the ball luca before before he had the game winner. Immediate reaction by people.
Literally everything he does is chit-chat. Tyrese Halliburton makes a massive shot.
The Pacers are going to beat the Lakers. A massive comeback in the beautiful city of Indianapolis, Indiana.
The Lakers have one more shot. LeBron passed it to Luka.
Did he get that in? Yes, he did. That thing falls.
It even helps up his teammate while he's celebrating a game winner on a day in which everything he had said uh previously was being debuted to the world and the reaction was absurd d-bone and mitt are in that crowd cheering on lebron uh because of what he did for our particular show in our business which is incredibly kind and tyree saliburton goeston goes, of course this guy. Of course this guy.
It was a great night for the NBA. And I think yesterday was a great day for the NBA as we learned even more about the superstar that has carried that league for so damn long.
So I'd like to say one more time, hey, shout out to the King. Thanks for coming by.
Now there's people saying, you would have. Yeah, yeah.
And there's other people going yeah well i do why wendy and we were like let everybody know when it happened we all had the same when we even pulled up the we even pulled up the the roster the high school roster with wendy on it like and i think the reason why it was potentially said is because this is what we thought of wendy LeBron's relationship, just as people that are kind of outside.

I think just yesterday on first take, maybe, Russo, shout out, mad dog,

he said, it's good, get LeBron for over an hour.

I couldn't do that.

Maybe Wendy could do that because I think that's how Russo viewed Wendy's relationship with LeBron.

And then everybody was saying, Wendy never said he was friends with LeBron, Like a lot of people sticking up for Wendy, which once again, we like Wendy. That's right.
And all the people sticking up for Wendy probably like Wendy as well. We understand that.
But there definitely was a narrative that like Wendy is basically LeBron. He wrote four books about him.
He wrote four books about LeBron James. He covered him in high school.
He said his mom taught him in high school. He watched his first game whenever he was 14 in Demon of the Game.
He's been covering him throughout the entirety. I think all of us assumed, that's why he put him on the photo, and that's why Mad Dog Russo yesterday said Wendy could probably get him on there.
We all assumed that that was a thing. And then, you know, LeBron kind of, for the first time ever, just is like, it's been kind of weird, this guy.
And it's like, we did not expect that.

And to Wendy, I don't think Wendy, well, maybe Wendy did.

I don't know.

You know, how does that relationship actually operate?

One that we've seen for 20 plus years now.

How is it?

Because you have to see each other.

Got four books about you.

Okay.

You would see each other.

You would assume.

We hope they do, you know, just like we hope Stephen A. Which I said said immediately afterwards i hope they get a chance to do that but it was incredible to listen to him talk about all the other shit too that wasn't drama worthy like the way he goes about operating his business his warm-up routine his commitment how he goes about being who he is what his thoughts are shouting out his mom like though there was so much in there that maybe didn't capture or captivate the headlines and the drama because there was a lot of that potentially still being uh stirred up in it all so we're going to show some stuff that i think uh should have got a little bit more love out of the lebronversation here in a bit we got a commitment coming in the college basketball world out of co-peat uh he's a three-time gatorade player of the year state player of the year in arizona he uh four-time state champion okay so gets to high school he just wins we're winning all of it okay this kid's older brother offensive lineman currently for the raiders six foot seven offensive line this guy's dad six foot eight offensive lineman in the nfl uh six foot two sorry six foot two uh offensive lineman in the nfl he is a six foot eight monster and uh do we follow high school hoops that closely no but i will say as soon as i was introduced to this guy's highlights uh and then his family lineage it's like this is a dog yeah and he's down to his final five schools there you see texas baylor houston arizona a State.
Arizona kid. The reason why he's in Arizona is because his dad played for the Phoenix team, Phoenix out there.
So he's like, he's built for it. He's a guy.
And now where is he going to play hoops next year? We shall see. Speaking of college hoops, Sweet 16 tips off this evening.
Can't wait for the next round of March Madness. This round sometimes has big-time blowouts because Cinderella teams for the first weekend get into the next weekend, and somehow the magic doesn't carry, and then the good teams are awaiting, and it's boom.
This year, because there hasn't been a Cinderella story, this year because there hasn't been as much madness as we thought. Arkansas, led by Calipari, is kind of the Cinderella conversation.
I think that should line up for some great games this weekend, starting tonight. And then, obviously, tomorrow, Lucas Oil Stadium is hosting some of them here in Indy.
That should be a blast. But we'll talk to Greenberg, Coach Greenberg, in a little bit here about what we should look for tonight and how these teams do that he thought were going to do good.
He has Florida. They were in a dogfight with UConn, but he also liked UConn.
So we'll get his takes on it all. And then Wyatt Hendrickson, the wrestling heavyweight champion of the NCAA as of last weekend, will be joining us.
Second lieutenant in the Air Force. Transfers to Oklahoma State because the Air Force and military academies do not allow grad competitive sports or whatever.
So he transfers to Oklahoma State for his grad year, and then he becomes national champion. He's second lieutenant in the Air Force.
What's next for him? We shall see. We'll chat with him.
And also the amount of respect that Gable Steveson gave to him, I assume that this dude is well-respected by his peers. He's a champion.
It was a great moment. Can't wait to catch up with him.
And once again, that madness is electrifying. They need to move it maybe in between these.
Yeah. You know, maybe in between the first round in the Sweet 16 or before the March Madness lead up because it would be a great kickoff into March Madness.
Nonetheless, it happens directly on the same day as day two of our day three of March Madness. So not a lot of people get to see it.
It is electrifying. Can't wait to catch up with Wyatt.
The boys are here at the Talks of the Table at Bruce Brown and at Ty Schmidt. You guys are all Yankeed up.
I forgot. It's opening day here, boys.
That's right. This is what we play for.
This is what we live for, really. You know, to wake up on this morning and just realize anybody can win the World Series this year.

It's a marathon. It's not a sprint.
Are you going to

get super invested in day one

of the season? Should you? Maybe not,

but I'll tell you what, I know I'm going to be living and

dying on every pitch

that is thrown this year for the Yankees because that's what you've got to do

if you're a baseball fan. For the first time

in a long time, you're going to be doing the same thing with the Pirates.

Yeah, you're damn right. I am going to be paying attention to the Pirates.
You know, Paul Skeen's on the bump today. Exactly.
Happy Paul Skeen's bump day. Just so happens to be opening day.
He is the ace for the Pittsburgh Pirates. One half of the hammer.
Done. Cowboys AP Tony's here.
Pittsburgh Pirates actually in the conversation until they're not. But right now it feels like they have an actual shot at this thing, which I love.'s all because this absolute legend who uh has this humble confidence about himself understanding what he can be and who he currently is getting his first opening day start for the pittsburgh pirates is he going to be enough to be able to lift an organization that was once a very proud organization back into the lights of october maybe even september baseball mattering in this entire thing thing.
Tone is a lifelong Pittsburgh Pirates fan. Didn't really pay attention to the pens as much, even though the pens were winning in Pittsburgh.
Pirates were losing in Pittsburgh, but you're a part of a number one high school baseball team. Yeah, me neither.
I can't skate. Didn't play baseball either.
And the Pirates stunk, but now feels like they're back, Tone. And this is what opening day is all about.
Just like in the NFL, before the season starts,

everybody thinks their team has a chance.

Baseball has that same feeling.

And opening day is more like a celebration, I feel like, everywhere.

It is. It is.

Opening day in a lot of places is a huge celebration.

Obviously, Cincinnati gets a lot of love for their opening day.

St. Louis has a huge opening day.

Big opening days around the country.

Pittsburgh has a huge opening day celebration as well.

They are down in Miami today facing the Marlins.

And, yeah, there is a lot more hope this year

because Skeens will be up there all year.

going to be awesome. But, yeah.
Jared Jones back, the other hundo boy. When he gets back, hopefully they get some wins.
Mitch Keller is a good pitcher. They've got a new hundo boy coming up, Bubba Chandler.

When he's going to come up, it's going to be awesome.

But, yeah, they could get some runs, okay?

They could get some runs for Skeens.

Someone to get some runs.

Bingo.

O'Neal Cruz, you know, he's the guy.

But hopefully they get Skeens one or two in outing, 30-0, at least for Skeens, get a Cy Young.

He's the best pitcher in the league.

No argument there.

Shout out baseball.

Shout out.

Hell yeah.

That's about those.

Oh, no.

You see the Yankees duo here?

See them?

On the left there, Bruce.

Coastal elitist.

I think satin starter jacket from 1998.

One on the right there, tie names, but I think because they love baseball.

Yeah.

Their captain,

Derek Jeter,

was supposed to come

on the show today.

We marketed it.

And we said

we don't like doing that.

For some reason.

Because if we come out

and say,

Derek Jeter's coming

on the show

on the opening day,

and everybody goes,

wow,

that is so cool

that that's happening.

Myself included.

You guys,

look,

you guys woke up this morning.

Couldn't sleep last night.

Got pulled the old jacket out.

Thank you. And everybody goes, wow.
That is so cool that that's happening. Myself included.
You guys, look, you guys woke up this morning. Couldn't sleep last night.
Got pulled the old jacket out. Pulled the old jacket out, the lucky jacket.
Couldn't wait. I knew you were going to put your glove on and you're going to say, hey, Cap, want to throw him? Yeah, exactly.
I have a catch, maybe. How many years did he play for the Yankees? 20.
Straight. Yes.
The guy. Arguably the greatest Yankee of all time.
You were so excited. Maybe more excited for that than I was to sit down with LeBron.

No way!

Don't you ever say that!

That's one of the biggest combos we've ever had. I know, I know.

That's the biggest combo.

That's a little hyperbole, and he's not in here, but I was over the moon.

Derek Jeter's not on the show today.

Yeah.

Okay.

Why?

Not Derek Jeter's fault.

Actually got a personal phone call from Derek Jeter

saying, hey, there's broadcast

stuff. Networks are doing the thing.

I'm not happy about it.

What network does he work for? Fox.

Those greedy corporate fat cats.

No, there's a lot of history between

there's a lot of history between

the networks. Yankees are actually playing on

ESPN today as well.

There's a lot of history there.

We'd just like to let everybody

at Fox know, we get it. Hey, we understand

Thank you for everything. We were bummed out, though.
Yeah. There was a bummed out.
Yes. And that's why we should never market anything.
No. Now, granted, last night I put out a post.
And the post was about a huge moment in somebody else's life that we've never met before. Okay? So I was, when the opportunity was presented, I was so incredibly excited and thankful for it.
Because whenever I made my decision to go to college, I know that's like a day that I'll remember. You know, forever.
This is a huge moment, not only for the player, the whole family, the school. And anytime we get asked to be a part of something like that, we can't help but be honored and full of gratitude.
Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's a four-time, four-time, four-time, four-time Arizona State High School champion. He's a three-time, three-time, three-time Arizona Gatorade Player of the Year.
He's a three-time gold medalist. He's a one-time USA men's basketball man of the year.
He's 6'8", and there's five schools that he is considering, ladies and gentlemen, to make his college decision. A guy whose dad played in the NFL, older brother played in the NFL.

His whole family is basically collegiate or professional athletes.

A man who's about to transform a program.

Go, Pete.

Yeah!

How you doing, man?

I'm doing good. How are you?

I want to let you know, being introduced to you here recently,

watching your highlights, you're an absolute... Hey, you are an absolute dog, dude.
I appreciate it. No problem.
Obviously, the family is a massive piece of that. I think, like, to get to this point and to have this mindset, the amount of work that you've had to put in and commit to, you should be incredibly proud of yourself.
And if that, I don't know who that is over your left shoulder but they should be proud right here is that mom yeah mom you should be incredibly proud mom hell yeah okay koa um obviously you're highly sought after i just read off your entire resume of success and you're a five star and in the world that we're in right now you are the exact person that every college basketball team is trying to get there. How did you get to your final five, and inevitably, where are you headed to go continue your basketball career? How I got to my final five, just having serious talks from my parents and cutting down my list throughout my process, but there's only one school you can pick.
So first and foremost, I would like to thank God. Without him, none of this is possible.
I want to give a special thanks to my family for the unwavering support. Thank you to Perry for an amazing four years.
Thank you to my principal, Ms. Patterson, and my athletic director, Ms.
Burks. A special shout-out to my coaches, Coach DeWayne and Coach Harwick, for making me the player I am today.
Thank you to my athletic trainers, Allison and Olivia, for everything. Special shout-out to my teammates.
I know y'all boys out there watching right now. Shout-out, y'all boys.
Boys, boys, boys, boys, champions. Also, I'd like to give a special thanks to my trainers, Coach Kenny and Chuck, for the countless hours you spend the gym Also, I would like to give a thanks to all the coaches that have recruited me throughout this process But I can only pick one school.
So with that being said, I'll be going to the University of Arizona Congratulations to Arizona congrats to you Congratulations. And what you just did there, thanking all the people that have got you to this point is the exact reason why I was so honored that you even thought about doing this on our program.
Obviously, Arizona, I believe, has Bryce James headed there as well. I saw a lot of the reaction last night from the people of Arizona, either scared to death that you were going to leave the state or if you were going to stay, you were going to go to the other Arizona school.
Why did you end up picking Arizona and how hard of a decision was it over Arizona State or some of the others? I mean, it was a super hard decision. Like I said, me and my parents had really serious talks about it, but I just felt like Arizona was the right situation for me.
Coach Tommy is a great coach. They have great assistant coaches over there for my development, and they're a winning program.
So I'm just excited to come down and play in McHale. All right.
Well, congratulations to you and your entire family. Arizona plays tonight, tonight sweet 16 taking on duke 939 on cbs and i feel like the entire fan base and team even is going to be lifted because they got an absolute dog coming we appreciate the hell out of you man ladies and gentlemen i appreciate you having me on the show it means a lot hey come back next year when you're doing your thing come're doing your thing, come back on.
Yes, sir. Let's do it, for sure.
Let's make it happen. Okay, good luck, ladies and gentlemen.
Cold P. I didn't expect the entire...
That was cool. Yeah, that was awesome.
That's like a cool moment. Yeah, Ray's right.
Kid gets it. Yeah, and who's with you? Is it your agents and everything? No, just mom.
Just his mom. We're just hanging out here.
Hey, how you doing? Part of the entire thing. There's professional and collegiate athletes throughout that entire family.
Oh, yeah. And we talk about it in the NFL whenever a second generation player is up.
Like Shador, for instance. Like there's a natural reaction from everybody that's in the sport to be like, okay, at least this person has seen it before.
You know, LeBron was talking about it a lot in the conversation about like inspiration and people to watch and like whose path can you kind of mimic or at least learn about in the entirety? And he talked about Lange and then he said, then once we got pretty good, Lange started hating on us. And it's like, that's going to happen through it all.
But whenever you have like a family member who's done it, you literally, like Osa talked about it with his older brother playing, you get a chance to see like what it takes to be great. Like, and even though football is different than basketball, making your body as good as it possibly can be to give you every chance.
And obviously he's six foot eight. So in the broad match, like I've God given talents here.
There's a couple, yeah. Six, nine, six, 10.
Right. And I can run very fast and I got great dexterity.
Like that's a God given thing. But like what it takes to be a pro, what it takes to, like, be great, you assume that all the sons or daughters of professional athletes, because they got to live it and experience it, they would understand.
Like, the amount of commitment, the amount of time, what you should focus on, what you shouldn't focus on, that's quite a head start over, like, everybody else. To that point, as a high school senior, like, when he was thanking everybody, I was like, all right, so he's got two athletic trainers.
He's got two basketball trainers. He's got all these – he's already a professional.
Just coming out of high school, he already – because of his brother. That was like a retirement speech there.
Yeah. He's already got a full team.
Nailed it. Absolutely nailed it.
Thank everybody. Yeah, and shout out to Missson, too, the principal.
Yep. Yeah.
She gets it. Mm-hmm.
Miss Patterson understands. Like, sometimes I got extra, hey, I got 100 free throws.
I got it. Yeah.
Okay. We'll be late for style.
Hey, sorry, I was late the first period. I, to be honest, I'm more mad than you are.
Okay? Took me about 20 minutes to hit the amount of shots that normally takes me 15 minutes. So's backed up i apologize oh so you were working yes here's a note see you later is that what miss patterson's doing over there at parry high school sounds like it and she's like listen you win four straight state championships for her yeah we're okay with you getting we're okay with that i assume he's a great student yeah just the way that entire thing goes yeah for sure just going to be able to be able to handle the moment.
Arizona now has Bryce James over there. They have, obviously, Koa going over there.
And it's like, I watched Bryce on Instagram. I think he won a state championship as well.
He did. I think he can really.
Oh, yeah. Because he hit a big growth spurt.
So I think this was going to be the thing. And then instead, when you talk about knowing what it looks like, he has a pretty good idea of what it takes in that whole thing.
What about Arizona going forward? Hold the phone. Are we college basketball people too all of a sudden? Calipari, Izzo, Patino, Coach Greenberg's coming on.
Now Coopete's coming on. The college basketball community has been very nice to us, and we are very, very thankful for that.
Derek Queen the other day, too. Yeah, shit, I forgot about Derek Queen.
Early last year. Yeah, early last year.
It's kind of crazy, though. I think, because when we first started doing this, and any time, not this exact scenario would get proposed, but during the tournament, it'd be like, oh, do you want to have so-and-so on? A lot of times, those kids were just not the best interviews, because they're're still college kids and they're kind of immature and don't really know how to do it yet.
These kids now, everything they have to go through, he was ready for that moment. You know what I mean? It's like they go through so much more than kids had to seven to ten years ago.
They almost already are seasoned professionals by the time they're committing to wherever they're going to go to college as a senior in high school. And that was just, that was never the case before.
Yeah. Derek Queen was like a 35 year old talking to him.
Exactly. And he dropped a, I don't know if you heard, he was asked about LeBron James talking about his play in the conversation.
And he said, she, I wish he was. I'm like, yeah, we like this.
Yeah. Yeah.
We, we enjoy this guy. The sweet 16 obviously tips off tonight, Arizona, which is the next home for Co-Apeat.
We'll be playing Duke at 939 on CBS. Duke favored by 9.5.
Florida favored by 6.5 over Derrick Queen in Maryland. A lot of storylines around there with Coach Willard.
Oh, yeah. Just talking about Coach Willard.
Coach Willard, a week ago, I forget when he said that, you know, there's been some interesting dynamics with the Maryland treatment of the basketball program.

Correct.

Could get an extra night in the hotel.

Yeah, that was like a big part of it is I think they were in New York for a

tournament around Christmas and he wanted to stay an extra night with his team,

like let them celebrate Christmas in New York together and everything.

And the school was basically like, we don't have the money for that.

Like get your ass on a plane and get back to campus.

And he was kind of just saying like the way the the landscape has changed, we all understand what it takes. We're in the Sweet 16 right now.
It was before the tournament, but it's like, we have a great team, but if I'm not allowed to do what I need to do to kind of continue to be successful, I don't know how far this can go. Yeah, he was kind of alluding to it.
So then as soon as you hear that, you think to yourself. And then Maryland, I know they're in the Big Ten, but going on a run here.
Maryland also a story, you know, a storyline in this entire thing. He's allegedly now going to Villanova.
Yeah. Allegedly.
Yeah. Yeah, he got pretty loud.
It's almost more than alleged. Yeah.
And a lot of Maryland people are not happy about that. Sure.
But if you listen to the way Derek Queen talks about Willard, I don't think that's going to affect them. And if he's not going to the NBA, he might be in a Philadelphia uniform next year.
He really likes Willard, yeah. Yes, he does.
Yeah, but he's 6'10", can move, can shoot, and he's on a sweet 16 run. We assume there's going to be options for the NBA for him.
Yeah. But I think these teams are just kind of groups.
I know they're representing Maryland, but I think the way he talks about Willard and the way Willard talks about them, it's like, and the way we're watching coaches go places and every team just basically go, it's like, you're almost just signing up for this. Hey, this is coming.
We can add some pieces, but this is what it's going to be. So I don't think it affects the team on the court personally, the whole, which I think a lot of Maryland fans are like, this is going to distract.
This is a great great opportunity and the only thing the players are going to think of is him leaving or whatever i don't think that's going to be the get personally no well with mcneese yeah yeah mcneese you know they they were one of the biggest upsets in the first round of the tournament it was announced before their game that their head coach had already taken the nc state job and like he was very honest with them he was like hey this was the goal all along. We're trying to get to a Power 5 conference, and if I go, I'm trying to bring a couple of you guys with me.
And so they already knew that, and they went out and they upset. I can't remember who they played, but they had an upset in the first round as a 12 seed.
Yeah, that's exactly it. Because he said, hey, I told my guys, like, hey, we're trying to get back to the Power 5 or Power 4 or whatever it is.
Because he came from LSU, goes to McNeese State, now to NC State, and he told his guys, like, hey, this is our audition to get back to the Power 4 or whatever. As long as you're very open with him, I think the kids these days, they get it.
And the boombox guys come with him. Yeah, that's true as well.
Aura. Yes, he is.
His name's Aura? Amir Khan. Amir Khan.
Amir Aura. There it is.
Khan. Yeah, he's going to NC State with him.
Six figures Six figures. Buffalo Wild Wings could wait to get on it.
That's right. You remember whenever the super fan for the Chargers? Mary Ann Doe.
Mary Ann Doe. You know who got on that board? Buffalo Wild Wings.
Oh, yeah. Amir Ora Con comes walking out.
There's somebody at B-Dubs. I think we know him, actually.
You've probably talked to him a couple times. Yeah, we need to be in there next.
I like that. How much money is it going to take? Well, we're getting some beatbox, boombox.
They're telling us we can get $99,000. $100,000.
Amir Oricon's like, I think this is a pretty good deal. Not bad.
Hey, Coach Wade, all they want is just right here on my boombox. Don't can really change anything.
He got a lot of hate. I didn't love that.
Well, anytime you're super successful, I know where I meet. You're going to get, you're making a hundred thousand bucks.
Allegedly. There should be people that are like this motherfucker.
That's always going to happen. Yes.
People just need to understand. True.
And I, I think aura should just understand that that's going to happen. You know, whenever it was being announced that you were going to make six figures, carrying a boom box, walking out in front.
there's a chance that people are not going to happen you know whenever it was being announced that you were going to make six figures carrying a boombox walking out in front there's a chance that people are not going to love that like that that is human nature that's what aura is all about yeah your aura is going to bring both positive vibes and immediately because you have aura there is going to be some it's going to come and then now did they get creative sure sure and that is that is the modern world which i do think is different than back in the day that maybe not everybody understands back in the day i heard them talking about today like uh you don't think blah blah blah was uh critiqued or didn't have any critics or people say anything negative about them it's like nowadays you hear and see what everybody is saying and the people that are on tv we're a part of this too and like we got to really make sure we watch that but we um not to all other viewers obviously there's a lot of people that have their own brains and their own thoughts and their own opinions and they watch us to disagree with us or potentially hear what our thoughts are as with what their opinions are but everything's forming opinions so whenever opinions are being said that are all the same you know uh for a long time now steven a said 95 of the the stuff is positive on lebron i don't okay all right all right but once again lebron said stop so he needs to understand negative shit's coming too that's that that whole aura thing but like you can shape people's thoughts and narratives with what you say, especially if that's all they're digesting. And then nowadays, they have the opportunity to say those things and they feel a lot more comfortable saying those things.
So yes, we believe that people back in the day were certainly criticized, but it's nowhere near what it is now. And people are like, well, stay off the phone then.
Well, people in stands, I know back in the day, it used to be like pretty crazy places. But like everywhere you go, you're being monitored and being like everything in your life is being hammered about.
So I think it is massively different. Just like Amir Oricon, like he's seeing a lot more of the hate that he would get, but people would have hated, just wouldn't have had the ability to let him know that they hated, that they have now, this in era, you know, like in LeBron in any era would have got hate in any era, just like Michael Jordan got hate in his era.
But now it's just so prevalent and it is like so loud and it's everybody, you know, and people are taking lines from people and they're using it as like their entire reasoning to hate people. It's just a matter of fact.
just like how the world not just sports that's politics obviously we all see something happen and then people go and then they come back and it's like now we have our now we have our sports something happens people go okay now they come back this is how it is always been like that but now it's just like constant and it's like everywhere and i I don't know what it was like in the 70s. And I don't know what it was like in the 80s.
But I feel like social media certainly made the world a smaller place. And that's good for connecting with people.
That's good for getting to know people, the real people. But it's also good for people to be able to talk their shit.
And people are really good at talking shit. Yeah.
People are really, really good at talking shit these days. So I think it's just a just a different atmosphere yeah because i assume back then it was mostly either print journalism or like nightly news so like if you weren't local or regional to whatever was going on like i don't even know how like if you lived in iowa and there was a story about like magic johnson and they were killing him like i don't know how you would get like an la times in the 70s.
Like, there'd be, like, no way that you could read what the criticism was because on the nightly news, they're not covering that either. And, obviously, sports media as a whole has just exploded in, like, the last 20 years.
So, like you said, I mean, back then, if you're getting shit on, if it's on the other side of the country, you'd never hear about it, ever. There'd be, way you could.
Now, it's like every single corner of the globe, people are taking their best shots at you. I assume that was never the case.
He's in the middle of it. He's going to be stronger because of this going forward.
He's laughing his way to the bank. I don't think he is.
I don't know. If he's a normal human human your first round of getting murdered is tough yeah you know but that is like the yeah like it's not in when you get knocked down it's how many times you get back up like after you get absolutely because he was getting loved obviously oh yeah he's getting loved by eric mcneese state i assume love this guy student section love this guy i think a lot of people everybody in the program loves this guy because they're actually like promoting this dude as like a hilarious piece of it obviously the coach loves this guy so he was probably beloved for this gimmick since the beginning of it yeah then you fly too close to the sun and listen or i want to let you know i understand what you're going through brother okay your gimmick much cooler than our gimmick but fly too close to the sun and then once you get introduced to new people that you're going through, brother.
Your gimmick is much cooler than our gimmick, but fly too close to the sun.

And then once you get introduced to new people,

you're going to get...

Now, you need to strap that fucker right back on your shoulders,

and you need to walk out next year with NC State,

and you need to be just as comfortable, brother.

There's a reason you're called Ora,

but there's going to be a lot of shit said to you,

and you're just going to have to keep on going.

That's your life now. That is your life now, Aura.
Until

you just disappear from public eye,

that is kind of what your life's going to be.

But we think you got it. We know you got it.

He does. For sure.

Proud of you, Aura.

You're in the form of Aura.

He's not going to lose his Aura. No.

I think you can.

I think what Pat's saying is there's a chance you can. Not this guy.
I agree. I'm on your side.
I think aura is going to be good. But I'll tell you, these people on the internet are talented with their words.
They are. And boy, some of the things that get said to, I mean, just me, I couldn't even imagine what aura is getting.
Also, there hasn't been a gradual, like, okay, we're starting to kind of get sick of this guy. You go from one day everybody loves you to one day everyone's like, fuck this guy.
I'm sick and tired of seeing him. That's got to be pretty jarring.
Okay, so he's profiting off it? Okay, it was cute for a second. Now this guy's making more money than I'm making in three years to do this? Fuck this guy.
That's just a natural human instinct. A natural human reaction to a conversation is, hey, let's find, you know, the gems.

Let's find the gems in these things.

I think some of the gems from the LeBronversation weren't talked about as much as I think they potentially should have been.

Because it was an hour and 15 minutes, an hour and 10 minutes.

And obviously, there's going to be a few moments.

There's ice cream, tighty-whities going to be a few moments there's ice cream tidy white is going to talk about sure okay super weird it's gonna get talked about that's gonna get talked about yeah yes okay lottery i understood the assignment that's gonna get talked about okay obviously for good reason those are all very but there's a lot of other gems that i think we could have taken away from this to make us think you know what lebron james maybe uh maybe this guy is just uh a human not just a name not just a uh an object that has been placed in our lives in the world of basketball for the last like 25 years if you go back to his high school promotion as well it's like uh maybe we can learn some things from a guy that went from section eight to the top of the world and has navigated rather well has certainly made some mistakes made it yesterday uh admitted two days ago in a conversation yesterday whenever it aired but i think there's a lot of things you can learn from somebody that's going to be considered greatest of all time in some convos and never in other convos because they listen to an hour and 15 of them and say i don't want to hear it that's the same bullshit and it's like okay you just didn't even want to hear it then it sounds like here's some uh takeaways from the lebronversation that we think should have more conversation coming from nothing to everything being in the public eye at some point that is going to collapse a human yeah for sure for you it feels like it hasn't and there's been a lot of things said there's been a lot of fires that you've been put into either you walked into yourself or thrown into why do you think that is the case do you think it's because your mom do you think it's because well i mean obviously i give her about shit a lot of credit for the way she raised me the way she taught me the things that she was able to uh instill in me there was also me also just looking at her the way she moved in the way how how determined she was to be able to make my life better, even with the circumstances that we were growing up in. So I give her a lot of credit.
I have some little league coaches too that taught me about not only just playing the game and teaching me the game of basketball, but also being a young man throughout my small adolescent years. And then just to be completely honest completely honest, like I didn't want to fuck my opportunity up.
Like I knew that the statistics for an inner city black kid to be able to be in a position that I was in, especially for my hometown, shit, it never, ever happens. Never.
It never. Never works out either.
It never happens. And if it does happen, it never works out you know um and you know it was a man like i'm gonna throw him under the bus but the only inspiration like we had was was like jerome lane the guy who like dunked and shattered the backboard that played for pittsburgh he was from akron ohio like we saw that and we was like oh shit that's the inspiration and then i went through high school and my boys know this too.
Like I went through high school and we was playing against the inner city kids because we went to an all Catholic high school. And fucking Jerome Lang was like hating on us.
I was like, oh, this motherfucker. Like he's back in Akron hating on us, like going against us.
And I'm like, oh shit, you was like our only inspiration. We like looked up to you and I was like, you know what can't i can't fuck this opportunity up man if i get the opportunity to make it i gotta do what i have to do to put my city on to represent my last name on my back man my family my friends and and also like it's the sport you know sport has given us so much i mean i look around here i mean looking baseballs and NFL helmets and basketball jerseys.
Yeah, Lucho masks. Like, seriously, like a putt-putt thing.
Like, seriously, like it's given us so much. So, like, I couldn't mess the opportunity up.
Well, you've done, hey, I think you figured it out. Yeah.
You've done good. For me to go down to Miami, man, one, it was a terrifying experience for me.
You got to think, I don't know a lot of people. It's the first time I ever left my hometown.
I was 25 years old. My first seven years, even though I played for Cleveland, I still live in Akron.
For 25 straight years, I was comfortable. Awesome house.
You had an awesome house. We've seen that.
That's a great house. I'm comfortable.
That is my comfortability is being in akron ohio you know i drive you know 30 minutes to cleveland play my games and then i shoot right back down to akron i'm good so for the first time it's like i've always used the analogy like i felt like this was my college moment you know i didn't have to go to college so like going to miami was my yeah you know moment to basically get out the house with my parents you know i was going was going off to college, and I learned a lot, man, and shit, two championships, four finals appearances, you know, two more MVPs, you know, and things that I can just, I can always look back on and say it was a hell of an experience. You mentioned you didn't wait, and I forget which one of them it was, but they told a story about Pat Riley fucking with your cookie.
Yes. Is that a true story? Is that a real story? No, it's a true story.
Okay. It's a true story.
Now, like, Riles wasn't like, it wasn't like Riles was on the plane and I was about to get my cookies and Riles snatched them out of my hand. You know how stories can become a little bit.
They kind of build to Sasquatch at some point. But there it is.
I mean, I was, you know, there was a time where everyone knows I love fucking love chocolate chip cookies. It's like my biggest vice.

No, it was literally the plane that we were getting on,

the ladies on the plane were making chocolate chip cookies.

Oh, man.

Yeah, so they knew.

Oh, man.

Yeah, so they were making them and bringing them

because we had the same ladies all the time.

It was a party of six.

They were rotating.

Every time they knew I loved chocolate chip cookies,

so they would get on and I would. Soft would Soft with a little crispy edge.
Perfect. I would get on and they already knew.
They'd bring me two cookies and I'd get to gambling with the guys and I got my cookies and we good. Then one flight I got on, I looked at them and they looked at me and I'm like that we got the, he was like, no, we're not allowed to, no more cookies on these flights.
What? And we all know where it came from. I looked at D-Way, D-Way looked at me, he was like, basically, without even saying, he was like, fucking Riles has done it again.
Riles strikes again. I was like, damn.
Six, nine? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's say you're 2...
You look very thin right now.

Yeah, yeah.

I feel good.

So, 215.

6'9", 220.

Could easily get to 260, though.

I think that would play in a lot of different eras.

Yeah, come on.

I could play.

I would be able to play in any era.

It's funny you hear some of them older guys like,

LeBron James couldn't play in this era.

Never been fouled by Bill Ambeer before.

Yeah, yeah.

I think I've seen, like, Dennis Rodman say that one time. He was like, LeBron James couldn't play in this era.
Never been fouled by Bill Ambeer before. Yeah, yeah.
I think I've seen Dennis Rodman say that one time. He was like, LeBron James, not skilled enough.
Yeah, not big enough. He's not, nah, doesn't weigh enough.
He's not strong enough. Can't handle it.
Nah, I'm like, okay. You probably lost a lot of trust in media, I would assume, because of the things that happened.
Not just what was said on TV, but what it led other people to probably think they should say yeah for sure yeah i mean it all started with the decision it all started with the decision the decision really like had me like sit back and like because people literally like i give a i give a moment so the decision you know it was brought to me to be able to you know do something cool on tv you know do a kind of college style like i said never had went to college i was like you know this would be pretty cool make the decision put the hat on but also you know raise 2.5 million dollars for a great cause you know and also be able to you know make it make it cool um and the funniest thing is from that moment, it was December 2nd, 2010,

was my first game back to Cleveland.

So I stayed at the hotel, stayed at the Ritz downtown in Cleveland.

And this one I knew that it was – people did not even really care

or didn't even understand the situation.

They just wanted to be a part of the nonsense. I hit the elevator to go downstairs to the bus catch the bus uh to go over to i think it was the q the quick and loans arena then and uh the elevator opens and there's two guys random guys on the elevator i don't you guys can always pull this up they used to have these uh f-u-k-l-b-j t-shirts okay black t-shirts red letters and uh I see the two guys they see me they say uh oh my fucking god oh no listen this is man we love you so much man we're just here we're just here for the spectacle man we're just here for the spectacle like seriously we love you man and and have a good get in the door in the elevator door close i was like oh those are two white dudes by the way oh for sure i didn't want to say it i didn't want to say it because we're outnumbered right now it was like oh my god man we fucking love you man like oh oh shit don In the elevator clothes.
I was like, you know what? This is all part of the spectacle. And it's about to go.
It's about to get haywire. So the decision you think is whenever the conversation kind of changed a little bit about you? Yeah, because they just needed something.
They needed something. Everything was so positive, you know, and I gave them no reason to make it negative.
It wasn't fucking up. But they needed anything.
you know and i'm i'm and i gave him no reason to make it negative it wasn't fucking up

but they needed anything you know i'm doing everything i need to do on the court i'm not out on the streets i'm not doing i'm not being caught in all the bullshit that doesn't respect the game and respect my craft it was like oh you decided to go on tv and make a decision for your career we got you we got it we finally got it we finally made a little chink in the armor we got something we got something it's selfish it's selfish you selfish mother yeah and then that caught a little bit of fire right because a lot of people uh don't like seeing people that are successful in anything especially if somebody is taking happiness from them and their team which you were doing obviously with with the Cavs. You're saying from that moment, it's winning.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, man.
During the ball drop, during the lottery drop, Cleveland got the number one pick. I just don't think that was...
Whoa, what are you saying? Don't you see this? Wemby with the Spurs. Oh, my God.
Let's keep LeBron home. You know what, Patrick Ewing to the Knicks.
You know, Derrick Rose to the Bulls. I understand the assignment, guys.
So, you know, I had to make sure that I had to do my part. I didn't want to be a fuck-up.
I just didn't want to be a fuck-up, man.

Like I said earlier in the show, like, no one gets this opportunity, man.

There's zero to none, and I couldn't be a fuck-up.

So that's what came with it.

Talk about you flopping all over the place.

That's why people get mad.

Yeah, I know.

Yeah, I know.

Now, why do you do that?

Patrick Mahomes does the same thing.

He's the greatest of all time for us.

In a conversation, the greatest of all time, the rules indicate that if you're to hit him, he gets 15. No doubt.
Is that the same thing for you? I wish. I wish.
Because I am, like, literally over, like, the last five, six years, why everybody's been claiming I flop all the time. I'm, like, in the bottom half of free throw attempts per game.
Oh, they won't give you the whistle. He'll get the whistle.
No. You don get the superstar treatment? You know, the funny thing is, I have a lot of teammates that be like, they come to the Lakers, and they be like, man, when I used to play against you, I used to think you got every goddamn call, and I hated it.
And now that I'm your teammate, it's like, oh my goodness, you don't get any calls. I'm like, hey, you know, don't worry about it.
Just keep playing. No, I'll just, wait till you see me quarter.
I got a good flop. I practiced on this one last night because there's a video from the last dance where I think the ref says to Michael Jordan, he goes, I didn't see it, Michael.
I am so sorry. I would never do it to you.
I believe you, Michael. Yeah, I believe you, Michael.
Yeah, that's the clip. Oh, yeah, I saw that.
I saw that. And Michael's like, I'm a goddamn member.
Yeah, I saw that. There was that saying, what, you spent like a million bucks on your body or something.
Man, I don't know where the hell that shit came from. Okay.
That's a very fair assessment. Yeah, I don't know where that came from, but I mean, listen, I do take care of my body, but I don't, I have no idea where the amount of money came from, but I do invest in my body for sure, you know, trying to do a little bit of this, a little bit of that.
Obviously, a lot of soft tissue work, a lot of massages, a lot of hyperbaric chambers, ice tubs, ice baths. Whatever I can do to continue to play at this level, man, I'm going to continue to do what I'm playing.
Seeing Saquon out there, and I got guys wearing my shoes now. When Saquon did that move where he turned backwards and did a pirouette backwards and jumped up in the air, and he had my kicks on.
I was like, oh, my goodness. I didn't know those were yours.
They were sick. He had the LeBron retro fours on in a spike when he did that.
Spin move nasty. Oh, my goodness.
Those were in the bronze. Yes.
I was super. I was going crazy.
I couldn't believe it. I didn't even know that.
So, yeah, I love it. Taco Tuesday, you thought that? Is that real? It's today Tuesday.
Yeah, it is. Oh, today is Tuesday.
Oh, my goodness. Taco Tuesday.
That was quite a situation. That was quite a situation.
Barbershop, another one. Oh, yeah, man, the shop.
Oh, yeah. I grew up in it.

That was easy.

That was easy.

That was another easy one, man.

It was like too many conversations that's going on right now.

That's not the essence.

It's not the essence.

I remember getting dropped off as a five-year-old mom.

Drop you off.

She go do what the hell she had to go do, make her errands.

She talked to the guy that's cutting your hair.

How many he's behind? About three or four okay about about three hours shit being there about three hours and i gotta wait there and sit there and wait my turn and in that moment that's when you hear everything you start hearing about the best mc that's going on right now the best hair product the best beard best beard oil, the best people in sports. Music.
Your music. It's everything.
Drama. Everything.
Yeah, yeah. Every single thing goes on in a barbershop.
So, you know, for us to be able to create that platform to shop, to be able to bring on all the beautiful minds that we've brought on to the shop, men and women, it's been a pleasure, it a pleasure it's been an honor and we're keeping that thing going man because it's like it's a comfort place i'm you know i went to the barber shop from when i was like five all the way through high school and you know to be able to have that sense of like truth it's the one place of truth where you can go out there and be like this is who I like alright that's who you like and we gonna fight to the

battle about it you know and it'd be

a new topic the next day and uh

you know I think it's pretty cool you guys did a couple watch alongs

too for Thursday Night Football

that was dope I mean y'all I mean you guys know

my love for the sport of football so to be able to do

that you wouldn't be able to take a shot though remember

yeah

6 foot 9 250 pounds

wouldn't be able to handle football

the Olympics you saw your eyes blink sideways

what was that all about

Thank you. Yeah, 6'9", 250 pounds, wouldn't be able to handle for me.
The Olympics, you saw your eyes blink sideways? What was that all about? What was that? What the fuck was that? Hey, I need to know what happened. Does that always happen? Your eyes always blink like that? Or is that just at the Olympics? I don't know.
That was probably like my Michael Jackson thriller video moment. You know, when he went from like,

you know, he kind of turned into that beast of his.

I don't know, man.

I saw that and it kind of freaked me out too.

I missed that.

Oh, yeah.

Okay, so you also saw it and thought the same thing everybody else did.

Yeah, there was people like,

oh my God, he's actually there in Paris

and he may be at his home in California at the same time.

This guy's not a human.

This guy's not a human.

Yeah, that's real.

That was a real conversation that was happening.

Oh, yeah.

And I watched it a couple times.

I was like, hold on.

I'll tell you what.

I mean, I can't sit here and say that it was not real.

It was not real.

We just leave it at that.

We just leave it at that. You don't read those fucking books before the games right all those books you open it you open it to the first page and then you don't read those fucking books ever again listen listen i actually have finished those books oh hold on like if you were to hold this hold on hold on people say you would say you read it oh This is how.
Someone take a photo.

Take the photo, please.

Yeah, we got it.

I'll take it from Miss Angle.

It's probably Rich's book.

First page.

Wow, holy shit.

And then that's it.

That's it.

I didn't even talk to you guys this whole time I was up here.

All I did was read the whole book.

That's it.

That's it.

That's it.

That's it.

That's it.

It's a classic, by the way. It's a classic.
We can't thank him enough. That was fun.
Thank you. That was fun to stop.
The book thing is interesting, isn't it? Yeah. Because what if he did? Because we heard Wendy break down his spatial awareness, his memory and everything this morning on First Take.
That was interesting listening to the dialogue afterwards. And I guess there are some things that have been said that, you know, I mean, what a wild time.
What a wild time. And just like I said yesterday with the big conversation afterwards with Steve, I hope one day you just get to move along.
Yeah. I don't know.
Womp, womp. I don't know if that's coming to you at that soon.
I don't know. But then also the answer, you know, hey, hope you guys can figure it out.
Hope you guys can figure it out. And also, thank you to LeBron one more time.
Okay, we got some NFL news. Big news, actually.
The NFL Competition Committee will be doing its new rules conversation. There's some new review rules that are happening, challenging rules, whenever there's a, only whenever there is a flag on the field a penalty would have to be called if there's no penalty called there's nothing that they can really stop and go back and say hey that should have been but i believe they're just going to be adding in the review or the uh the quick replay uh conversation much quicker and to more broader things the nfl you know it is like a um it is a slow moving ship.
You know, it's very large, very powerful. And the people that run it at the end of the day are 30 billionaires or 31 billionaires.
And they obviously have competition committees and other people that are pitching things. And Roger Goodell obviously does a job of having to manage all aspects of it from meteorites deals, sponsorships deals, strategy planning, relationships, future relationships, and everything else we're going to do.
But for something to happen, it takes a while. Normally they plant a seed.
They plant a seed, and then they kind of watch the reaction publicly probably to the seed. And then if it's okay, it's like, all right, we'll hang on to this.
Then they'll institute it a little bit somewhere, and then they'll test it a little bit. and then they'll test then they'll test it a little bit it's like everything is always like a slow moving thing and then if they don't like it we're getting away from this instant replay for the pass interference was something that had been talked about for a while and then a big situation happened they kind of had to do it then they got rid of it because they didn't like what it was this new kickoff thing was a conversation for a while, conversation for a while, conversation for a while.
Now they institute it, make a massive change to the game, and then now they want to keep it because they saw some positives. How do we make it even better? Well, this was like the initial pitch.
The initial pitch was that a touchback would go all the way out to the 35 instead of to the 30. And the reason why 35 is so much different than the 30 is because the touchback before this rule will change would bring it out to the 25.
So to the 30 is only five yards. People are giving up five yards on first down basically every single time, so who cares? To the 35, that'd be a first down after a touchback, which whenever, you know, the percentages of when do you score and when do teams put any points on the board at all uh 35 yard drive start versus a 30 yard drive start is a bit different on when points happen so i think the 35 was going to scare teams out of just kicking touchbacks the 30 did not early in the season when guys could kick touchbacks they were just kicking it out and it looked like a weird ass kickoff look like yeah why is there another line of scrimmage is footballer supposed to supposed to be a line of scrimmage? There's two lines of scrimmage? Okay.
And the kickers are going to be standing back there on another little island with a little spotlight on him. Can we put a little spotlight on this guy? And everybody else down here, and then they can't move until the ball – that's a weird thing.
So the ball is snapped. Nobody can move.
Until there is some other thing that happens, then everybody just has to assume when they can move. If they move too early, that's a penalty.
And if they move too late, they're cut. So it was a lot at the beginning.
Then we realized once these returns started happening, it was like, okay, can kind of deal with the awkward view. I think that would be kind of

an awkward kind of view to start,

especially with what a kickoff has been

for so long.

And now they want to create more of that magic.

They want to scare teams out of kicking more touchbacks.

It was the original rule proposal.

They put it in a little bit.

Then he found out, okay, we do probably need to do that.

I think that's going to be a thing.

And I like those kickoffs.

Turpin, I think, opened everybody's eyes for Dallas. The ball bobbled.
He had a spin move and bang, bang, bang. He's to the crib.
And then there was some of the playoffs. It's like they're trying to get that back in the game.
And if this is the way to do it and moving it to the 35, I think we all think in the special teams world we'll definitely make more returnable balls. I like what they're doing, adding more explosive plays to the game.
Yeah, I'll never forget. I was right around this time last year when we were at the owners meetings when we when they we originally were told, hey, it's probably gonna be the 35 and then it ended up being the 30.
You said, I don't know if that's going to be enough or whatever. You and I are old enough.
I remember when touchback was what came out to the 20. Yeah.
And now it's at 15 yards is a ginormous difference. So, yeah, you would assume this is going to make a big difference in guys not or not just kicking it out of the back of the end zone like they did in basically the Super Bowl when it really mattered the most.
You get it to 35. One catch.
You're at midfield. Another rule that is going to be changed.
Better not have a runny nose. No, you better not.
If you've got a runny nose, you need to figure out how to rub it politely.

That's right.

Cannot be aggressively.

Cannot.

No more.

Nope.

No more intense wiping of the noses.

Okay?

It's over.

Stop it.

No guns.

Yep.

No fake guns.

Right.

No, do I have a gun? Don't even point that might look like a gun. Even a little point that looks like the cricket from Men in Black.
We don't need any potential guns being on the screen during any time. And everybody's like, all right, that makes sense actually.
That one college kid went out with a bang. He actually, not only him, the kid that lifted up his shirt, pulled one out, pulled the other out, and was like, just make sure everybody knows this is what it is.
It's two of them. And then shot a guy.
That left, I think everybody was cool with it. I think that was good play.
I think it was good play for the future. I think we all like that.
That nose wipe is an interesting addition to the you can't do that rules

whenever it comes to celebrating.

And we'll see.

C.D. Lamb's going to have to figure it out down there.

And we assume he will.

What if he just does like a casual nose wipe first done?

I think that's okay.

So if he does like a three, a one at ease.

Like an itchy nose versus a wipe in the snot?

Yeah.

What if it is just like a... That might be a cocaine.
Yeah, it could be. This could be the final fallout of COVID.
We don't need to be spreading germs. This is probably what the NFL is.
Keep your fingers away from your nose. You got a runny nose, don't touch it.
Use your elbow. Oh yeah, those are good times.
Crooked the elbow. You know what I like? When we used to go tip a shoe to tip a shoe.
Yep. All right, go see you.
Tip. Boop.
Had to. Tip.
Just a tip. Just a tip.
Boop. Especially on opening day, we would have been...
Oh, yep. Boop.
Boop. Boop.
Boop. Boop.
Boop. That would have been like a really exciting...
Yeah. Handshake, foot shake.
Mm-hmm. You remember when they did the...
Remember the... Oh, yeah.
Go to the foot. Yep.
Not the... Those were wild times.
Yeah. That was around the same time when we were on a look at each other.
Was that right? Correct. Yeah, yeah.
People were getting it through the contacts. Yeah.
And cardboard box. Remember those goggles? Oh, yeah.
Everybody was ordering everything. The shipping world, the buy online, arrive at your front door business just went insane.
It all came in cardboard boxes, though. And then all of a sudden, one day, don't even think about the cardboard boxes.
Let them sit outside and sterilize for four to five days. So just started having stacks outside even getting groceries and just having to spray the bags down with like stuff that's probably going to kill you regardless later it's like you got fresh fruit and you're just hitting it with like an aerosol like hey we survived that's right we made it we made it that was wild time a lot of people passed away was not good.
But we survived. And we lived through that time.
We should always remember that. Rest in peace, obviously.
That was very... I came through like a Facebook post from Italy.
Just wait. That's what the person from Italy said.
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are happening all around us the sweet 16 tips off this evening we hope you are having a fantastic afternoon morning or evening wherever the hell you're watching but tonight college basketball

is back in the spotlight.

And we think these games are going to be magnificent, magnetic, and magical.

We'll be talking to Coach Seth Greenberg in about 10 minutes or so.

BYU-Bama, Maryland with Derek Queen and Coach Willard for now and the boys taking on a Florida team that a lot of people think could win the entire thing.

Arizona, who just learned of Coa Pete's commitment to their program.

Number nine ranked player in the country.

I don't know.

I watched his highlights.

I'm going to say this guy's top five, top five, top five.

Yeah, okay.

Four-time high school state champion, three-time Gatorade player of the year,

three-time gold medalist, former USA men's basketball man of the year.-op committed to arizona on the show earlier today they're taking on duke and uh i'll tell you this duke team fared by nine and a half that's hard not to jump on watching the boys operate for the blue devils down there is something like uh you know i don't think i've seen a long time for a duke team it's Plus, they'll even have their shirts untucked every once in a while, okay, because they're, like, getting after it. Dogs across the board down there for the Duke Blue Devils.
And what Cooper Flagg does, obviously, we'll talk more about it with Coach Greenberg, but, like, their entire team is loaded. And the head coach, after learning his story, it's like he's a dog as well.
They just passed the torch there from Coach K to somebody who was doing it in his own way and with a team that is kind of building their own era but also continuing a tradition of greatness. That's been a fun storyline to follow.
I, much like how LeBron kind of worded it, enjoyed watching Duke. I love J.J.
Redick. I liked him.
I liked watching J.J. Redick do his thing.
But also, it wasn't really relatable with Duke. Like, it wasn't really.
Then I go down to Duke for college game day, and I think, wow, this place is so nice. But I was looking around like, yeah, this probably isn't a place that I'm supposed to be at.
But it was very, very nice. So I'm not complimenting or not saying anything bad about the school, but it wasn't a place like somebody like me would be a big fan.
This team I find myself a massive fan of. The way they play, the way they operate, their story, everything about it is fun to watch and I think that's why people love them.
They're holding it down for the ACC as the rest of the ACC trying to figure it out in this new SEC world. Duke is on tonight taking on Arizona and then Arkansas in Coach Calipari, the Cinderella story of this particular tournament take on Texas Tech, who's favored by 5.5.
That thing tips off at 10.09. Man.
That 9.39 one even. Yeah, strap in.
Strap in. Can't wait to watch Derrick Weiner, boys.
Oh, yeah. Can't wait to do the thing.
Talks and Tip was here at Bruce Brown and at Ty Schmidt. Send your love to Boston Conner and talk.
Obviously, traveling back home for a few days. They'll be back next week.
Tonight's a big one. Let's go to one half of the Hammer.
Done. Cowboys, AP Tone.
Hammer. Done.
Obviously, sports gambling show that comes out of this particular Thunderdome every single day that we're live. What are the big bets for tonight? Are there any trends that we need to know about this particular Sweet 16 evening? Coming out of the first round, the biggest trend was that there was no Cinderella.

Cinderella was not the only princess that got murdered this week in the Disney universe.

Tony.

Tony.

What?

He's been sitting on the—

Yeah.

He's been sitting on the—

Oh, yeah.

Maybe all week.

Yeah.

I thought they murdered the dwarves.

Well, first, I think that was kind of the thing that started it all.

I learned a lot about the people that were in that movie over the last couple of days.

Have we all?

Oh, yes, we have.

I did not know any of those people were in that movie before the lead.

I did not know a lot about.

Now I do.

I know.

We do.

I don't love that. Good luck, though, on the other side.
I guess it did not know a lot about. Now I do.
Now we do. I don't love that.

Good luck, though, on the other side.

I guess it did not.

It didn't do great.

The dwarves, I'm not a big grow-up Disney movie guy.

Sure.

Didn't watch really any of them.

Instead of Mighty Ducks, I didn't watch any of the animated cartoon ones.

Never got into them.

I apologize.

I'm doing it with my daughter now.

It feels like they should have been movies that I maybe watch every once in a while. But I appreciate Sally and Tim being like, yeah, you don't have the attention span.
You can get the fuck out of here. You don't have to watch yourself.
I'm going through it all. But I think the dwarves were a part of it.
Oh, yeah. In the title.
Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. And then obviously there was a decision made because people were offended.
Well, a person was offended, but I assume representing numerous groups of people. And then there's other people in the same community that are like, I could get this job.
There's not a whole lot of jobs out there usually. And that's the interesting thing.
And we're just sports people looking from the outside in. But if it makes it into my algorithm, it probably means it's gotten really loud in your guys' world.
Seemingly what happens in that world, more often than not, when it makes it to my algo, is just that the one side doesn't understand that the other side exists. You know? Like that is like a...
So when the one side is representing the other side, and it's like, that's when things get real loud. That's when things get real loud.
And with that being said, I think the next movie they make around this one the people that would potentially be playing the dwarves if they were to redo this you guys are in a good spot you're needed yeah you guys leverage wise yes big time good i think you got a good negotiation potential there you know so yeah i learned a lot about that whole thing that was a wild time but didn't even think about it. Didn't know any of these people.
And then all of a sudden, in a matter of, like, three days on the internet, I feel like I know a lot about a lot of people all of a sudden. It's like, good luck, Snow White.
So she's with the animals. Yes.
The animals. Snow White's with the animals.
So this will be remade again. Wait.
I mean, this one's not doing great i don't but you don't

think they'll try to save the i mean maybe but i think you think they are you think snow white's

dead and gone i don't know about that maybe they reboot the the animated one because the original

snow white i think came out like 1939 like it's like yeah i heard that 1937 yeah it's like the oldest that was a big part of it yeah so maybe they redo it and and do the animated version i think i mean something like this i mean what are we what the hell are we doing what are we doing here so i think they're gonna're going to have to. The animal one, that is a huge, just as somebody that lives with a lady who loves it, my daughter I think is going to love it.
The animal princess, they're going to have to figure that out. I can't wait for the next swing.
Good luck in there. Good luck.
Good luck indeed. Good luck indeed.
It's going to take some time. It is.
It is. I think time is the biggest healer of all wounds.
I think that should certainly be something. What were you going to say, Bruce? And that's why there are no Cinderella's left in the Sweet 16.
Thank you. Sorry for that time.
There's no NIL and everything. What they did to Snow White.
That's why we can't have these good runs. Yeah.
Anyways, you were sitting on that for a while. Congratulations.
Congratulations to you. It just popped in my head.
But against the spread, favorites were 28 and 24. So while they dominated on the money line against the spread, it wasn't.
And this is the shortest spreads that I've seen in a Sweet 16 in a long time. Now, the 9.5 for Arizona Duke is not super short, but it's not double digits.
There is no double-digit favorites in this entire Sweet 16 round. nine and a half for arizona duke is is not super short i mean but it's not double digits there is no double digit favorites in this entire sweet six six 16 round nine and a half is the biggest spread in both days and those started at like seven and a half and were bet up because they they like the teams they obviously like duke and the other teams so i think they're going to be close games um it's just exciting i think more dogs are going to win in this round obviously just because of how close the lines are.
It's going to be very, very exciting. And the under was also slightly ahead in the first round, 28 and 24 as well.
Tomorrow's at Lucas Oil Stadium? Yes. Okay, so that Purdue playing there is fascinating.
Eight and a half. Purdue a home game.
Just something to think about. In a stadium? Yeah, that's the big thing.
In a stadium too? The big ones I think about, you know, like Michigan here in Indianapolis, that's going to be a pretty big go-ahead. Michigan, I don't believe.
Atlanta for Michigan. Kentucky, Tennessee, I believe.
Bang as well. The four and a half, then how you like that? But a bigger spread, especially – that's an interesting line.
You kind of referenced it. The unders are always something to look for in those stadium games as well just because the backdrop is so – not what the players are used to shooting at.
I saw some people pissed off about it being in the stadium as opposed to being in Game Bridge. game if it's at game bridge look for the first half under it is tough to shoot in that bar and when it's set up for basketball at the next yeah that's compared to being at game bridge you're saying lucas lucas oil yeah you're saying if it's at lucas oil look for the unders at least first half until they adjust yeah because they get a shoot around i think they get a shoot around around, but that's nowhere near.
I think we even have our suite there. There's a suite that's going to be right.
That's an interesting... In the depth behind it, how deep it is, as opposed to what an arena is.
It does always optically... It's like whenever they played...
Weren't they playing on an aircraft carrier for a carrier yeah yeah playing on aircraft oh yeah

and they shot terribly yeah wind it's not just the wind and like the movement that could happen because you're on water but the visuals it's like you can't really deal like empty and if you guys remember the bubble the bubble was basically in a small gym high school gym nothing behind it and that's why those guys made every single three-pointer of the shot and maybe that's why every NBA guy that comes in here just

snipes

this place steve nash included do people know that steve nash can just walk onto a court right now and just go 20 for 20 does that does everybody know that i mean i would assume so it's kind of like even after i think he. Yeah.
I think he had a little bit of wine. Yeah.
But it's like you always say with people who grow up in Indiana, once you learn how to shoot, you can get older and be fat and out of shape, and you'll still kind of always have that form of a jump shot and be able to get one up. Like this guy did.
I mean, he won two MVPs. He know, he's a Hall of Famer.
Did you enjoy watching it?

Yeah, it was awesome.

Me and Fox were on the other side of it.

It was awesome.

As it was happening, me and Fox were like,

it was just kind of cool watching Steve.

It was awesome.

Yeah.

He, like, let out a yell, and then it just hit the rim and still went in.

It was just the only first switch to hit the rim.

Yeah.

I mean, he, for his career, shot over 42% from three.

That's pretty darn good. In game.
I haven't shot in 11 years. He said, I don't know.
I don't know. Let me.
No, seriously, I haven't. I play a lot of tennis, he said.
A lot of tennis he plays. Soccer, he played in that TST.
We're saying he doesn't play pickup. Steve played in TST.
He played tennis. He played in TST.
That means he's playing a little bit of soccer. I assume there's a pickup game happening somewhere around Steve Nash.
But anyways, he told us he hadn't shot in a decade or so. That first one.
I think it was 20 for 20. Nothing but net.
That's unbelievable. It was insane.
I wonder what Braun would have done in here. He know, he literally, I mean, in between things,

he was so kind and so cool.

Did not shoot in here, though.

Kind of didn't want to because of what happened with Tyrese.

Sure, sure.

You know, after Tyrese leaves here.

And how that first quarter or first half went for LeBron

wasn't necessarily as, oh, no, double-double with a game winner.

That's just all that needs to be said.

Yeah, exactly.

But with Steve Nash, did unbelievable.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen,

is a man who probably knows more about hoops than anybody else that's talking on TV right now. College hoops, at least.
Now, there's going to be college pundits that are obviously pissed off about me saying that. Sure.
But with that being said, every time he's come on our particular program, he's seemingly been right and also explained exactly how things were going to go. I don't want to say he predicted Chalk Talk, but he certainly said the SEC is going to have a run here.
This is the best conference he's ever seen. Seven of the teams in the Sweet 16 are from the Southeastern Conference, including the Florida team that he absolutely loves.
They got by Dan Hurley and UConn, and obviously the refs helped him, if you ask Dan Hurley. But where do we lie now? Let's ask this man, ladies and gentlemen, from ESPN, Coach Seth Greenberg.
Yeah, Coach! What's up, boys? What's up, boys? I'll tell you what, I think it's going to be a fun weekend. Forget about Cinderella.
We got real games. We got big boy games.
Put on your big boy pants. Coach, there's going to be no joke.
There are no rocket chair games left in this tournament. You're saying heavyweight matchup.
We got big-time brands battling it out. That means we're going to have great games.
We just went through the spread. There's no spread larger than 10.
There's a lot of tight spreads through the entirety of this Sweet 16.

What are some of the storylines we need to be

looking at? Derrick Queen and Willard, allegedly

he's off to Villanova.

Will that affect them? They're taking on

your team, Florida. BYU,

obviously. Great story that you chatted

about that would be great in this entire thing.

Duke, unbelievably dominant.

Learning their story is cool. And Calipari is the Cinderellaerella what is the thing you're looking at tonight coach i think you know the florida maryland game with everything that's going on in in maryland right now with you know obviously kevin willard potentially or probably going to villanova uh that's good that's the storyline but the game is the bigger storyline i mean derek queen to think about how they they got to this point to the sweet 16.
getting the ball in the middle of the floor a little step back right there i mean that's just a sick contested shot get your 6-11 guy the ball in the middle floor having put it on the floor with a kind of dirk novitski type step back that was sick it was absolutely in criminal the plays back to back the skip pass for the three and then on the other hand, obviously this shot. Now, Kevin Willard, the play before, he had a foul to give.
He had a foul to give and didn't give a foul. A lot of questions from Coach Greenberg.
A lot of questions there. My head was percolating while I was watching that game.
Anyways, him going to Villanova. We talked about this at the beginning of the show.
You know, McNeese State with Coach Wade had something similar.

How do you think, like, the modern college experience for college hoops

is either good or devastating for the situation that's going on in Maryland

with Willard?

I would have said devastating, except they have four of their five guys

or seniors that are going to be out the door anyway.

So he's going out the door with them.

I mean, Derek Queen's going to be a one-and-done. Reese is eligible.
He's done. Sheldon Miguel's eligible.
He's going to be out the door anyway. So he's going out the door with him.
I mean, Derrick Queen's going to be a one-and-done. Reese is eligible.
He's done. Shelton Miguel's eligible.
He's done. And so is Jacoby Gillespie.
So, like, those guys just want to go win games. Like, at this point, that's just what it's all about.
McNeese got beat by a team that could pass and catch and make shots and attacked all that switching. Maryland, on the other hand, they've got to deal with the most explosive team in the tournament.
They've got to deal with a team that's going to run their queen up and down the floor, put him in ball screens, screen the hell out of him, and make him defend and probably get him in foul trouble is my gut feeling. If I'm the Florida coaching staff, and obviously Todd Goldberg's done a great job, you make queen defend every single possession.
The matchup that's interesting to watch is Gillespie and Walter Clayton. That's a big-time matchup.
Two guys that can really play, two guys that came from mid-majors that are NBA players. So that's going to be a fun matchup to watch.
Yeah, you love this Florida team coming in. You love the SEC as a whole.
And we watched Florida take on UConn. I don't think I've gotten uh I don't think we've gotten to ask you about coach Dan Hurley afterwards and then the entire UConn response but like that game was awesome to watch and because Florida was running early I mean they were running it was like 11-2 or something I think at the beginning they were just wide open and then watch them get the offensive rebounds and the way they operate or I guess it't, but they were moving early.
They looked very dominant against UConn. And then Dan Hurley and the boys come back, and then Florida ends up winning it at the end.
That was a great college basketball game, but this Florida team was electrifying to watch. Has that been how they've been all year, and is that why you like them so much? 100%.
I got a to watch them practice uh this this winter and you watch them practice the energy that they that they play the pace they play with the freedom they play with the force they play with uh the collective responsibility like those dudes like each other like it's it's interesting we go there for game day and usually we go to practice during game day and you watch practice and practice is over and players are out the door. You talk to the coaches.
You talk to the assistant coaches. Practice was over.
Every one of those kids came by and they wanted to talk. I mean, they're not spoiled by the situation.
And they're all being taken care of. I mean, they're all obviously excited about where they are and what they're accomplishing.
But, you know, whether it's Walter Clayton, who I think is going to be a lottery pick. He's sitting there with a coach.
I you coming to practice. I'm having this conversation with him.
Whether it's Denzel Aberdeen who comes off the bench, he's the only guy, like, kind of the freshman that comes and plays, a local kid of Florida kid. So they've got a good perspective on where they are, what they're doing.
And UConn pushed them right to the limit. UConn's game plan was freaking phenomenal.
It was absolutely ridiculous. Look, you can't turn it over down the stretch.
You got to get free throw block out. You got it.
You can't give up extra possessions. That's why I say special situations for basketball is free throw block out coming out of timeouts.
First play to half, first play in the game. Those things you got to be good at it.
You're going to pull off an upset. And, you know, that was the difference in the game.
But Florida answered the bell. I don't know about in football, but in basketball, to get to a championship game, you're going to play one of those games.
When the game was on the line, Walter Clayton was an absolute monster. Those two threes he hit off the bounce and elevated and jumped up and knocked those shots down, they were sick.
Yeah, helps them get calloused a little bit, you know, for the moment. A tight win like that against the reigning back-to- back national champions is good for a team's confidence and let's talk about duke obviously representing the acc a team that you love and you uh obviously have given massive credit to coach shire and cooper flag they're taking on arizona arizona gets co-opete uh to commit to them today earlier in our particular show but what should we be looking for there for this game and duke is dominant i mean they are a dominating basketball team they are dominating where they dominate the game that is on the defensive end with their size their length uh they switch one through five so when they switch one from five they got a guy like malawatch he can switch on the guard and stay off him and still contest the shot they could put in a ball screen they can trap those guys behind are so connected.
And then Tyrus Proctor shoots the ball the way he's shooting now. And the confidence that he's playing with to compliment, to compliment, obviously Cooper, to compliment Malawaj, to compliment the guys coming off the bench.
That's absolutely huge. They're playing with so much confidence and it starts on the defensive end.
I mean, their length. And they're going to get Malik Brown back, it looks like.
The kid who's been hurt with a shoulder injury. And he's like a sick defender and a terrific passer and an experienced player.
So they're adding some experience. They've been terrific in the tournament.
Now, look, their path hasn't been as difficult maybe as others. But they've done what they needed to do.
This Arizona team's good. And if Caleb Love goes off, Caleb Love, you know, he's had games against Duke now.
Coach K's senior night, I don't even remember, Cameron Indore, 22. Coach K's last game, NCAA Tournament semifinals, 28.
Caleb Love can happen, and he can go off, and this is a much better Arizona team than they were when they played Duke early in the season. I mean, they started the four and five then they kind of got their stuff together they're playing much better basketball and Caleb Love is a tough matchup but Duke I don't I think Duke I think Arizona covers I don't I don't think it's gonna be more than nine point five points I just I can't see it Arizona's playing well enough to at least make it a game okay I like that news that news.
Thank you for the intel on that. We will certainly heed your advice.
And for BYU-Alabama and Arkansas-Texas Tech, what should we be looking for? Yeah, BYU, that game's going to be fun. That's going to be like an NBA game.
I mean, that game, I would lean to the over on that game. I'm not a man of chance, but if I was using my cranium and looking at that game, the pace of the play.
I didn't know we were giving picks right now. I love that we are giving picks right now.
Love it. I would let you know that we are very, very...
I'm doing the best I can. You know what I mean, boys? I'm making my way through life.
Look, I'm talking on TV all day. I mean, if I can hang out with you guys and maybe get a couple shots up like Nash, I wouldn't make my shots, but I mean, I'd give it least.
Well, we appreciate that. Nash is ridiculous.
People think Steph Curry is the biggest recruiting mistake. I took my team at Long Beach State to play the junior national team, the Canadian junior national team, and Steve was on that team, and we kicked the crap out of him.
He would come and shoot with our team. team he was like you know 17 years old i mean we destroyed those dudes and at the end of that series against you nationally the dude wanted to come to long beach state and like i said i don't know i had my backcourt coming back i mean you know we just you know we just beat the crap out of them major mistake yeah yeah that, that was bigger than pretty woman mistake.
You know what I mean? I mean, like really big mistake. Coach Greenberg, we got our backboard coming back.
Canadian white dude, we just beat the shit out of us. Steve probably remembers that, by the way.
Oh, he did. Hey, he did.
We were in the same region with him in the NCAA tournament. When he got to the podium, he goes, you know, those guys in the other half of the draw, I wanted to go to Long Beach State.
I said, thanks, Steve. I appreciate my reputation.
He remembers that forever. That's how those elite dogs are.
You think about how athletic he was. Soccer, he could have went.
We were talking to him literally the other day. He probably could have went in soccer.
Basketball was obviously it. Then you listen to him on Tuesday Tuesday, April 1st, Mind the Game with LeBron and Steve Nash is going to come out.
We got a chance to listen to it a little bit. His IQ for basketball is just unbelievable.
It's crazy. He was explaining that.
I don't want to give anything away. He was explaining that.
I don't want to give it away. I think he created.
There was a move. There is a run that he created.
He had mashed. Keeping the dribble underneath and keeping your dribble alive to wait for the cutters to come and come around.
There it is. Yes, exactly.
He explained it. Then he was explaining what he was looking at while he was doing that.
It was just like... It was like boom, boom, boom.
He was literally like the Queen's Gambit.

It was the brain, the mind is a crazy thing.

Anyways, you fucked that one up,

but what should we... With BYU-Obama, we're going over on that one.

And then for...

Yeah, you're going over on that.

That'd be an interesting game.

Now, Cal's game is interesting.

The Arkansas game.

You get to do Thero back,

you know how much are you going to play him?

He's a better matchup for Texas Tech

because they have a kid named JT Toppin and you might want to downsize against Texas Tech. I like this Arkansas team.
They have had different guys on the last game. Billy Richmond and Carter Knox.
I mean, he, Carter Knox, leaves them in scoring. I mean, one day it's DJ Wagner.
One day it's old Jonas to do. They're like, Texas Tech's ridiculously well coached.

They're physical as hell.

They can really have a lot of different guys that great matchup problems.

But there's something about this run that Cal's on.

Like, it's one of those things, Cal, pretty elite eight.

That would just totally mess people's minds up.

And he has that kind of rare ability.

Once you back him into a corner, he just kind of figures stuff out. They were 0-5 in the SEC.
Yeah, 0% chance to make the tournament. 0% he talked about.
And he'll let you know that too. Yeah, he did.
That's how I know it. That is literally how I know it.
And he gave us 0%, Pat. And then he did the coffin thing, which is very real.
They actually did that to his team first year over there. And the way it ended at Kentucky, too, this guy's lost it.
He goes to Arkansas in the top SEC. They're 0-5.
They were coming for him, too. Him taking his team.
And now he was wearing a shirt when he goes in there. He said he's celebrating and enjoying the moment with these guys, too.
It feels like. 100%.
And I think he has a 14-3 lifetime record in the Sweet 16, I think. It's insane.
I think that is his record in the Sweet 16. It's like some of these older coaches are older coaches for a reason.
Hey, these same people have been around. Yeah, because they're fucking good.
That is, they don't get fired. They don't win games.
Yeah, exactly. And Calipari, five and a half points.
Okay. And he's got a dude coming back.
He talked about that the other day.

Fascinating night.

Okay, the boys have some questions for you.

Coach, go ahead, Todd.

Let's do it.

Coach, we just heard Tom Izzo recently get pretty pissed about the question about, you

know, dealing with the transfer portal because it just opened while also, you know, preparing

your team for a Sweet 16 or a tournament game.

But I'm curious to get your take on this.

With the current climate of college basketball, how difficult do you think that is for these

Thank you. your team for a Sweet 16 or a tournament game, but I'm curious to get your take on this.
With the current climate of college basketball, how difficult do you think that is for these coaches to prepare for a tournament game while they also know that there's a good chance that two or three guys that they might rely on four minutes are already looking at where they might be going in the portal next? Yeah, it's brutal. By the way, great Yankee gear, by the way.
It's only about one take. Absolutely love the Yankee gear.
Having said that, I'm 100% with Tom. And here's the thing.
The portal's open 12 months a year, seven days a week, 24 hours a day. All right? You saw the kid that's going to St.
John's from Arizona State. I mean, the portal opened Monday.
He committed Tuesday. The portal's open seven days a week, 12 months a year, 24 hours a day.
Having said that, the day of Selection Sunday to the end of the tournament should be a dead period. 100% should be a dead period.
We have dead periods in the recruiting calendar throughout the year. Why would you put coaches and players and everyone else in a situation where you're getting ready to play the biggest game of your career as a player as a coach all right you've had this unbelievable journey to get to this point it's a sweet 16 and justin pippen has put his name in the portal and he plays for michigan and they're in the sweet 16 why why why would we be in moment? It's so easy to say, you know what? Brackets come out, boom, dead period.
The Wednesday after the championship game, it gets live again. And then we eliminate all of this conversation.
It just makes common sense. You're putting players in a bad place.
And then like even the coaches, like you don't know who's in the portal and who's not in the portal because like these teams that are playing you don't have those conversations after but the agents the agents are running recruiting you don't need the parents yeah but it's the agents that are totally running like guys are in the portal and guys are being are talked about in terms of being shopped they don't even know they're being shopped these are agents and they're not even agents the more the old school runners remember the old school runners like you have a guy on campus and be working a guy these guys are legitimately oh big big and these guys are legitimately making calls around and they're setting the market now here's what the coaches got to do the coaches one if we got to fix that the second thing is like they're throwing out two million dollars like it's a 20 dollar bill oh yeah my guy's worth two million dollars some of these coaches got to call their bluffs say you know like you want two million dollars good let them go take two million dollars because there's very few players like i'm going to give you an example indiana they spent a ton of money in the portal didn't they yes part of money well did they play in the NCAA tournament? No, but they will. They had to spend all that money to get to this point, to get the Vries.
Yep. They get the new coach.
That's fine. Look, I'm a big DeVries guy.
But, I mean, like, if you go around the teams that spent all that money, they're not playing now. They're not playing now.
I mean, look, K-State paid Coleman Hawkins in a tournament i can go i can go i can go through the list of all the guys that overspent overpaid got great osubert went to washington not in a tournament like you got to get the right dudes like and like if an agent is just trying to get the bottom line and and look i understand their jobs but to me the, the coaches have got to say, this is like, this is pro sports. So, Coach, we're having the same, it is pro sports, but in pro sports, at least there's a market and there's, you know, a calendar and a schedule and guidelines and a cap and every, you know, so that is the difference.
And I think in football, we've had this conversation a lot about how there's going to be guard rails coming soon we hope there's a ruling that has should have i know that has to be happening relatively soon uh okay so it's been moved to july one so that ruling's coming then there's a salary cap then there's a rev share and then there's a panel uh that has to approve every nil deal to see house yeah so now there's like allegedly going to be a market out there but how can you tell what the market is because the market is whatever somebody's willing to pay you i don't know how they figure that whole thing out but i do think that there is a time coming for some guardrails let's get back to that transfer portal being in the middle of the tournament that's actual ineptitude right because the reason why they do these transfer portals is because they say the schooling system the schooling system they have to be able to transfer into the next school before the next semester but football doesn't have their transfer portal their spring one until april so that could easily have been moved till after the tournament because there's no school implications like it's happened during the college football playoff where teams were in the college football playoff and some of their players felt obligated to get into the transfer portal because the portal opened in the middle of it and they thought they would miss the time. And we said, why don't you just move that till after the thing? They said, well, they have to be able to transfer in before the next semester starts.
So schooling is kind of the thing. So then the answer is like, well, take that one out of the fall, keep the one in April whenever the season's over, OTAs and spring's over.
You guys should do the same thing. Why do these decisions get made up front? They should see the train wreck that is coming.
You would think they should be able to do that. But we can correct it, I think.
I think we can correct this shit. Don't you? We have to correct it.
I mean, like, there's no answer to it. This is not no brain.
I'll tell you why. Because the people that make the rules a lot of times aren't the coaches the people that make rules are you know uh athletic advisors presidents and they're not living it and so they don't they can't look at it through a prism of what they're looking at bottom lines they're looking at whatever they're not looking at the prism of the actual full experience i mean like to me how the ncaa doesn't have people on board and and quite honestly the nabc who represents the coaches has got to be more involved in this thing like the football coaches association is very very involved our associates has got to be more involved and more powerful to have a voice that is heard and be a basically a sounding board of the coaches you need to be in the room where it happens right people on this committee need to be in the room where it happens hamilton here we go bingo i'm cultured okay uh but if you're you're in the room where it happened then you can obviously have say if you're not in the room you're waiting on what everybody else is saying exactly and that's not just sports that goes in we need to write people in the rooms you know we need to write people in the rooms.
You know, we need to write people in the rooms, proper voices, at least being representative. And hopefully we'll be able to figure that out in all stages.
But college sports needs to happen quick. College sports needs to happen quick because there's a lot of shit that happened.
COVID happened. Now we get an extra two free years.
Guys were allowed to sit out six years. Now it's like, do we still have the four years of eligibility rule? That's being phased out.
Now we get NIL. Now we got the, it's like everything needs quickly.
because it's like do we still have the four years of eligibility rule that's being phased out now we get nil now we got the it's like everything needs quickly because it's continuing to go like this and the product is not sustainable yeah but the product is more like now than maybe ever you know you look at like college football i assume college basketball is going to be the same thing it's like let's make sure we preserve this great thing that we have i think we're all on the same page ap. AP Tone has a question for you about the Sweet 16.
Yeah, Coach. We talked to Coach Kyle earlier this week, and he was saying how each weekend is a four-team tournament.
So with that being said, can you as a coach and a team carry over momentum from the first weekend? Or is it just, hey, this is a reset, this is a brand-new weekend? Or can Duke, who was just so dominant in the first weekend, can they just keep riding that wave? Yeah, I think they can. I think momentum's a big thing, but you've got to think all 60 teams have momentum because they survived their quad.
But yeah, I think that, let's face it, you want your team to be confident. You want them to play with confidence and poise and force and trust.
And yeah, I think you win two games, especially like I look at Arkansas. You beat Bill Self and you beat Rick Pitino.
You beat the number two seed and you're the 10 seed. Yeah, that's momentum.
Duke, how they won, for sure. On the other hand, now Auburn has not played as well as we expected them to play.
And they had some injuries at the end of that game. Like I have some concerns about Auburn.
Chad Baker-Mazzara had that little hip pointer at the end of the game the other day. He couldn't finish out the game.
How healthy is he going to be? They haven't played with the same confidence. They haven't been dominating offensively and defensively.
So I got a little bit of concerns for Auburn in that case. But they do have this guy, Todd Betteford, and that dude is Kenny Anderson.
That That's a young Kenny Anderson. This left-handed right here, this dude is a little bit different.
Little runner, shoots the three, has no fear. Jersey City guy, I mean, he's dangerous, but like Auburn doesn't have the momentum, say that, and Arkansas has them, they can regain it, or an Ole Miss has, and Chris has got his team play well.
BYU has right now. Those teams have a lot of momentum going in because not only winning, but how they played.
Like, you know, like winning is winning. But if you played really well, you're thinking like I'm a swinger now.
You trying to figure it out with that, Pat? Well, a swinger, there's a lot of different... Like a big pop.
You don't like that?

Oh, okay.

Okay, yeah.

Okay, yeah.

All right.

If I say something that goes over your head, I'm really struggling.

No, no.

It went into my head.

And there was just too much.

I had to think about it.

There was too much going on.

I was like, whoa, okay.

We didn't know.

I didn't know enough about Coach Greenberg.

I thought immediately there.

Now I learned a lot.

But you're right.

Yes, you're right.

100%. Bruce has a question for you about the big swingers in this particular one.
Yeah, Coach. So some of the long shots remaining, I know you like Arkansas, but, you know, Michigan, Maryland.
Which one of those do you think has the best chance, and who might be the most gettable one seed? I know Florida and Duke are kind of a cut above, but maybe tomorrow night. Yeah, I think Auburn's gettable, and I think Michigan's an interesting team.
Now, look, Michigan's got those two seven-footers, and those two seven-footers, they play post-to-post basketball. Danny Wolfe is a freak.
I mean, he's six foot 11, and he's basically a point guard. He can handle it.
He can shoot it. They run their offense through him, and a lot of stuff Golden is a load in the low block.
So like, those two guys

are a problem. Now, it goes back to

my conspiracy thing, you know.

You got the Donaldson

kid. He played at Auburn last year,

so he understands what he's about to compete against.

I think they match up well. The

key things in that game will be, they

gotta take care of the basketball. That's the big Achilles

heel for Michigan. They turn over about 19% of their possessions.
a lot because the bigs are handling it all over the floor and they've got to rebound the basketball but i like this matchup because style of play dusty plate may plays fast he plays ahead of the defense those two guys create matchup problems uh they've got enough depth and they're also going to pull janai broom and make him him defend. They don't have to double him because Golden plays Broom man to man.
Then all those inside out kickouts he gets are a problem because you're going to take that away. So now you can wall up and just force Broom to play over the top of you which is a really big thing in terms of a matchup because if you double Broom all of a sudden they go swing swing they get the get the more worse than knocking down jumpers and that's a problem.
Michigan for sure to cover this game. That Wolf guy's got a Steve Nash.
He does. That's what Steve Nash looked like in here.
If you want to know what the shot looked like 20 straight times, that was exactly what it looked like. Not once did he just even crack or say anything, just walk right to the next spot.

No big deal.

I think he clapped in his own partner's face.

He did.

Connor missed his first two shots,

and then Steve claps in Connor's face,

and Connor goes, what are you doing?

Splash.

Yep.

Coaching.

He's coaching.

We appreciate you, man.

We genuinely appreciate the time.

This is a blast.

I enjoy this. You've been crushing it on TV, brother.
I'm faking my way through life. Just, you know, stay down on those shot fakes.
Yeah, yeah. That's a big deal.
I got a question. Steve Nash, one question for you.
If someone laid it down right now at the 35-yard line, could you knock it right through? Kick? Yeah, kick. I mean, punting, kicking makes no difference.
I mean, you're a pro're pro for me you're talking about me or steve nash no you it's steve nash you probably do it too i mean a soccer guy yeah yeah i mean what's happening is there like a reason i'm doing it or is it just happening for no reason no it would have to be through money i mean i mean money definitely a family member or something like that yeah the ball is going uh the ball is going to go through yeah yeah i Would like proper footing, but if I got to wear cowboy boots or something else, I could still try to make it happen, especially if there's going to be a death of a family member. So, yeah, I think no problem there.
That's a made-for-charity event right there. Yeah, you know, the issue is the last time I kicked a ball, I actually...
Oh, boy. The ball exited the stadium, and I ripped my hip flexor.
That was at TST last year, the soccer tournament down in Cary, North Carolina. I'll tell you what, I jogged off that field, and I said, that's why the fuck.
I think your gig right now is pretty good, though. I think you're in good shape.
How about this? Who's going to win the national championship, you think? The games. If this goes in, you're right.
We're going to see this. I like this.
Sorry about it. Todd Golden, not happy with you.
Okay, second one. That was for Arkansas.
That was for Cal. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Tass Greenberg Thanks, buddy Hey, no problem, no problem He's at Gatiss I almost didn't hear what he said I was like, I think he said Florida I'm happy he said that I haven't made one of those in a little bit I don't know if you've seen out here, we got a new contraption set up on the court.
This is Thunder Buckets. This is garbage can beer pong, basically, where you shoot with basketballs.
But it's a full court shot, you see, and there is defense involved. It has really captivated the Thunderdome here in the last 24 hours.
We played this at Pins Mechanical whenever we rented that place out for the first day of March Madness. was awesome awesome that place was absolutely awesome if you come through indianapolis i assume that'd be a great place for you to stop by if you have a big group feels like the perfect place to go through but they had like a version of this type of game uh then obviously we brought in here this one's gonna get aggressive i think i think there's gonna be a lot of this yeah over the office.
Everyone has different strategies. The best strategy, just shoot a jumper.
You know, some guys like doing chess passes or runners. It's not working so far.
Yeah, and you're embarrassing yourself and ruining the game at the same time. I didn't see one runner.
I didn't understand the runner. Not one runner.
He did it the entire game. Yeah, it was the only thing he did.
And then he moved himself to the corner opposite the runner's side too. So he was making his...
It was almost like a hook shot at times with how he was doing. We were originally playing where you're shooting from the free throw line and we moved it back to basically LeBron settings where we're shooting from basically the block right under the basket.
And that's just to benefit you two fucking sharpshooters making your living on the outside. Me and D-Bone we make our money on the inside.
We like a nice little shorter shot, so we move it up to the free throw line. Maybe I could nail my jump shot right in there.
We back it up there. It's righty runners all day, making it rain.
Luca? You got D-Bone outlet passing. Oh, that is ridiculous.
The outlet pass is a tough look. Basketball is taking over kind of here.
You know? Definitely. I mean, this is the most – I think the basketball community has been incredibly kind.
I mean, that was absurd. Absolutely absurd.
But not just him. Like Tyrese as well.
These coaches coming through. The players coming through.
It's like – and at this moment, it's like the NBA game last night was awesome. Yeah.
It's basketball season. It is basketball season.
And it's also baseball season. Hell yeah.
Yes, it is. Ty, what time do these games start? And isn't this normally like everything gets delayed? How's the weather around the country? That is the big thing, and that's why a lot of people bitch about opening day being this early because the weather actually in New York today I think is pretty nice.
Yankees are the first game at 3.05 Eastern, and then there's another game, Blue Jays and Orioles right after that. And I believe there are nine games that go on between like 405 and 415 but yeah that was always the big thing is like you would have either like Chicago or the Yankees or the Mets or whoever like you're playing in New York at the end of March sometimes you'd get like 25 to like 35 degree weather and snow on the ground.
And it's like these guys just get done from playing in like Arizona and Florida for spring training. And they're kind of, you know, acclimated to that.
That's obviously what you're playing in most of the summer. And then you have to go up and like pitchers have to throw in 35 degree weather.
So they're not throwing as hard. The overall product kind of suffers.
but like today in new york i believe it's like 52 degrees and sunny which you know doesn't typically happen and on that note uh mlb weather report uh zito just pulled up there's only three games that are in jeopardy of delays today a lot of games weather impact doubtful new york toronto texas washington uh chicago houston san diego miami la seattle and arizona all a go paul skeins will be on the bump against miami okay they're all having a cold front that they had coming through during college football playoff kansas city cincinnati and st louis potentially problematic that's the midwest though easy come easy go in these cities you know that could be and then it very much could be the complete opposite. Could be great weather and then likely delay a rainout.
None. That's great news.
Shout out to the weather. You've been a pain in the ass.
Yeah, big time. Shout out to the weather on this particular opening day.
Shout out. I would say, yeah, I just looked at all those.
At least those potential rainouts or whatever potential rain, they're all in the 60s. There's a lot of's not like there's a lot of times where we're getting, like, 35 today.
It's real tough. Guys wearing, like, sweatshirts and, like, fleece, like, underneath their, you know, uniforms, which isn't typically conducive to playing a baseball game.
Yeah. Stings.
In the hand. Oh, yeah.
Stings. Big time.
Good luck to the baseball people. Good luck.
Good luck. Go get them.
Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a NCAA champion.

A man who is a second lieutenant in the Air Force.

And obviously, we all learned of his story last weekend whenever he beat Gable Steveson

and what people are calling the biggest upset in NCAA history.

Ladies and gentlemen, from the Air Force and Oklahoma State, second lieutenant, Wyatt Hendrickson.

What's up boss how you guys doing today great buddy how are you doing brother how's life as the champ man it's been awesome i mean still water has just been so supportive as soon as we got off the plane the town was here to greet us we were going to the softball games they're. They were going to baseball games.
Just having a town like this, it just shows how deep the legacy runs here at Oklahoma State. We've got fans from the past 40, 50 years that have been supporters of Oklahoma State University.
That's still running rich. I think Oklahoma State's on to, we're picking up something special again.
Obviously, Magic Man's in town. This is just the first year year, but we got high goals going forward.
Okay, I love to hear that. And every time I watch Matt Madness, I think about how electrifying the environment is.
What was it like in the building there in Philly? And you guys were billed as the main event. You know, you guys won on last, especially because of everything that Gable has accomplished.
I think he's become must-watch television, whether it's because people are massive supporters or he has people that are pulling against him at this point because of how much success he has had. What was the day like leading up to, and what was the arena like as you were out there? What a moment for you and your family, obviously.
Congratulations on it all. Thank you very much.
Yeah, it's been a long time to come. I've been wrestling for 19 years, so having a moment like that, celebrating with my family, it was awesome.
But leading up to that day, even during the tournament, I don't like watching the tournament. I like to kind of stay in the back and focus on myself.
And I was zoned in that day, you know, leading all the way from, you know, the morning of until, you know, five minutes before the match, I was ready. I was confident in my training.
I was ready to go put on display, you know, the hard work I've been putting in the last six, seven months. Because you don't decide the day of the tournament if you want to be a national champion.
You need to decide that months in advance because that's going to guide your training. That's going to depend how you train.
And, you know, it's going to show on the mat when you go compete. So, you know, as soon as I walked out there, I actually have such good, you know, I've done this a lot.
So my tunnel vision was amazing. All I saw was that center mat.
I didn't even see Gable was standing in the center with his arms open you know he was kind of guarding the mat you know like hey you're coming to big papa you know you're taking on the champion i was just so focused i mean he was saying stuff to me but i didn't you know i was just so zoned in i didn't i wasn't listening to anything so um you know the one the one moment i do remember it started to sink in was as soon as i got that takedown. I mean, you talk about feeling the environment.
I could just, everything in my body was fully flexed. I was holding on to him.
I could feel the place just erupting, but it wasn't over yet. There was still 20 seconds left in that match.
So it was probably one of the longest 20 seconds of my life, but I think it helped that, I think Gable was a little bit stunned.

He was almost, I'd even say in disbelief that he just got taken down.

I mean, you see him look up at his coach,

look at the clock, and he's like,

I didn't think this was going to happen.

What do I do now?

So, you know, that was a really exciting match,

but I also just want to say that Gable's still a great wrestler.

You know, he's obviously been in the sport for a long time.

He's done so much for the great sport of wrestling, you know, even bringing uslympic gold medal and he's you know multiple time national champion um and he might still be in the game so this is no time to let up obviously you know um just right before this uh we had that i was watching the show it was up in the wrestling room while i was in there getting some work in and you know i'm just excited for what the future holds so i'm not slowing down i'm excited to go get you know a gold medal of my own here when la 2028 comes around okay so that is the question because we know uh we looked into it a little bit and you might be able to correct us if our research is wrong and congrats i mean that is so sweet to watch the family especially with how grueling and hard wrestling is and the amount of commitment that takes for your entire life you know you guys not only beat the shit out of your ears like we see but your bodies and everything yeah exactly exactly yeah and uh that is like you know it's a grueling sport it is very difficult a lot of discipline a lot of accountability a lot of hard work so watching your families go crazy after the win it's part of the madness magic that entrance that you had there with that american flag coming out and then behind you with the fire i mean what a moment you said you were zoned in but that is a piece of content that i hope you and your family watch forever because that is fucking filthy to be honest that is such a sweet entrance and i like the fact that the mad madness folks uh appreciate this part of the spectacle and make it a show but that american flag obviously means a lot to you not only because you're a great american but also you're a second lieutenant in the air force we think what we read was you had to transfer to oklahoma state to continue your wrestling career because the military academies don't have graduate uh competitors in their sports is that accurate and what is next for you do you have to go to air force uh you said 2028 you're focusing on what is next for somebody in your position because i don't think we fully understand it all and thank you for your service absolutely yes well thank you very much for your guys support this is a kind of a unique program i would say but so yes the academy only has it's a four-year you know there's no graduate program there so you know about 20% of the graduating class actually goes to grad school. Because, you know, getting a master's is something that we need to obtain sometime along the line.
But I was actually able to get in the WCAP program, which is the world-class athlete program, of course, through the Air Force. And I brought up to their attention, I said, hey, I can maybe get some schooling done.
And, you know, I could also use my last year of eligibility because i do have that because of the covid year and you know it just they were on board with it they supported me in that and the w cap program will last um i'm going to be in it for four years so pretty much my main job is going to be representing the air force on the wrestling mat um so i'm really grateful to be in this position to where i get to you know serve serve this great country while wrestling on. But of course, after those four years, I'll still be able to go be in the Air Force for a minimum of five.
So my long-term goal has been to make the military a career. I love this country.
I think the best thing for me to do to give back is to be serving. And we talk about running out with that American flag.
I'm serving under that flag. I love this country.
I got in the service for a reason. So I think bringing that to the attention of everyone, I don't feel bad for that at all.
you know i'm serving under that flag i love this country i i got in the service for a reason so i think you know bringing that to the attention of everyone i don't feel bad for that at all you know i think some people are like i mean it's most common to see that when you're a you know world champ or olympic champion and i was a u23 world champion so i've known what it felt like to carry that flag and you know i think even though we're doing in other countries and worlds i was like let's why don't we bring that back you know pat glory did it a couple years ago you know all the feedback on that was great and i was like hey you should not feel bad about it at all brother you should not if you heard any negative feedback you're okay with us we're actually we're telling you how awesome it is in uh the world-class athlete program obviously that's uh for the next four years you're just going to be preparing for olympics there is that is that goal in representing the air force in the olympics and getting a gold medal for the air force in the olympics that'd be a big deal that's that's mindset now absolutely yeah i mean obviously it feels great to you know fly that flag here but you know even i mean la 2020 that's also going to be here so that'll be exciting you know i mean in that moment i can only imagine comparing the clips years from now when i'm you know in la i got that american flag around my back once again and it's just that's going to be that's the ultimate goal right now on that note uh you had a couple people in the building for you and you know the the alleged rumor is uh maybe commander-in-chief wasn't supposed to stay the entire time and leave but he heard you were at the end he said one of my guys he's at the end tone has a question for you yeah why did you know president trump was gonna be there was it any extra pressure uh knowing he was gonna be there uh for that for that final match yeah i did actually hear that he would be coming to that and that's obviously super exciting and i think i've I think I've got enough grasp on the sport that I'm able to kind of take myself out of the situation and wrestle for myself, my family, and my team. So if you asked me that five years ago, I would have been out there freaking out like, oh my gosh, my boss is watching me.
But I was just really blessed to go out there and wrestle freely. it was a it was a it was a pretty exciting moment when after that match i walked over there and i showed him my respects because i mean you know that's my boss man the commander in chief president trump is just the fact that he was there supporting the great sport of wrestling is just an attribute to you know how awesome of a sport this is and it's growing and i think a lot of people that originally wouldn't have watched the sport or now you know maybe looking in a little bit like oh what like what's going on here but one thing i didn't know i didn't know that elon musk was there so that was a surprise as soon as i went back i was shaking his hand i'm like oh i'm like sup elon like good to see you here too so that was that kind of caught me off guard i'm like that's pretty cool okay so you had a a post-match behind the scenes in a locker room convo

with Elon and the president and everything,

or did everything happen out in front of everybody?

Yeah, no, that was after the awards ceremony.

Just right after the awards ceremony, we were able to go over there,

get a quick picture, talk to him again for a brief second

before we head to the back.

Good for you, man.

You represent your country well, and we can't wait to see what you do next.

Appreciate your service both in the past and in the future, and right now for the air force good luck with everything okay bub absolutely thank you guys so much noise remember god bless america god bless our troops and god bless the cowboys thank you guys all right ladies and gentlemen wyatt hendrickson congratulations man that's awesome what a breath of fresh air that's my boss over there yeah? Yeah, I was in the Air Force, second lieutenant, okay? We'd do the whole thing. And then the way he, I mean, it was, you know, all the ex-military people, they judge the shit out of people, you know? That's a stolen valor.
That's not a real fucking salute. No way.
That became a thing there for a while. Big time.
People were just buying fake things going around, getting exposed.

He said a minimum of five years after he'll be back in the Air Force.

But wants to make a career out of it.

Yeah.

Let's go.

Hey, there's heroes out there.

That's right.

I'm happy to wrestle him.

That's a sport where you need it.

Oh, yeah.

That's a sport where you got to be tough.

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Sweet 16 tips off this evening. Major League Baseball starts its season officially today, even though they had a couple games in Japan a few weeks back.
And the storylines are endless around the NFL. And we'll get to a couple of those that we haven't chatted about thus far today because it's been a lot of basketball it's been a lot of college wrestling it's been a lot of the toxic table being disappointed by their captain that's at Bruce Brown and that's at Ty Schmidt Derek Jeter was going to stop by the program today he was told he was not allowed to even though he wanted to he made a personal call to say I am so sorry about the confusion maybe sometime down the road did that jinx the New York Yankees for the season? Something like that could potentially affect baseball long-term at Ty Schmidt and Bruce Brown? No, not at all, because you mentioned it.
Jeets is a stand-up guy, and he said, you know what, I got to call him and let him know, make this right. He could have just been like, you know what, fuck these guys.
We have no relationship with him. Exactly, exactly.
I have never had Jeets on the show, have never really had any kind of communication with Jeets. He could have at 11.45 send one of his minions, tell him I'm not doing it.
Period. He said, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to call Pat, let him know.
Hey, this is out of my control. I don't like it.
I don't like it one bit. But he's being a teammate.
I'm a teammate. I'm the consummate teammate.
I'm the captain. So, I can't do it.
I think that bodes well for the Yankees, if anything. Oh, you think because he took his if he would have came on the show, maybe not good.
No, I think that would have been great as well. I think when you're talking about Jeets, it's kind of a win-win, no-lose situation.
That's great. Alright, I like that.
3.05, the Yankees start the season officially. Good luck to your team this year because people are saying it's the Mets city now, right? You know what they're saying? Yeah, they're wrong.
The Mets added some rinky-dink bullshit. I think they're having a piece of pizza, an Empire State building, a subway car, and something else.
Race around the warning track. I like that.
In the seventh inning stretch. That's the kind of shit that you'll never see at Yankee Stadium.
What are you talking about? What about the Perugian race out there in Pittsburgh? That's different. You're talking about side-cross soul? That's good American fun.
That's part of baseball. What about the Bronx? What about the Bronx running? All of that.
That's part of baseball. That's Americana.
Yeah, but you guys said Mickey Mouse right there just because of it. It's not something Big Brother would do, I would say.
Zito just told me in my ear or somebody in the back, maybe Foxy. Foxy was like, hey, remind this toxic table that is slanted toward the pinstripes right now that all the baseball people on ESPN said the Yankees aren't going to make the playoffs.
Every single one of them. Is that what they said? No, I saw – no, didn't I see – Jet Passan.
Jet Passan was saying they're not going to make the playoffs. Mendoza had them.
Jet Passan also said that last year in the Yankees made the World Series. So, I mean, I don't know if that means anything.
Jet's very skewed. Jet is a Yankee hater.
That's fine. He's a Kansas City guy.
He's a Royals fan at heart. And the Yankees have routinely just done a number on the Royals.
But yes, Jess Mendoza. That was the best segment on Get Up in maybe the last two years.
What? Get Up has had a lot of great segments. I know.
I just would like Greeny to know that that is not a... Okay.
Greeny's had a lot of great segments on there. But Mendoza was taking this back.
She was hitting those helmets so fucking hard with that. It was awesome.
Yeah, you can see the table. Schefter starts, I think, with...
D-Wood wasn't in studio, so they had to do... Toy hammer.
No, I think it was an actual... The little baseball helmet thing fought back, like didn't break.
Then Mr. Pass then mr passing same thing and then mendoza comes in with this bat and she was i mean rattling the table the helmets were exploding first time i saw no oh yeah i mean she's a dog love that yeah they need to institute that going forward if you get an eye problem when you're smashing football game.
Exactly. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who had a front row seat to that.
And a man that Ty Schmidt says is a New York Yankees hater. He is.
Senior insider for the MLB for ESPN. Ladies and gentlemen, Jet Passing.
I'm going to be Jet. I'm going to be Jet.
Jet, how you doing? Gentlemen. Ty, why are you being such a bitch? I'm not.
I'm not, Jet. Honestly, you are just so soft.
So incredibly soft. No, Jet, what I was doing was saying, hey, mister, I know everything about baseball.
The Yankees aren't going to make the playoffs last year. You said it.
You came on our show and said it. They went to the World Series.
So I'm just saying just saying hey everything that comes out of jet's mouth isn't gospel that's all i'm saying that's correct by the way uh i'm not gonna see anyone hit anything harder today than jess mendoza did those helmets bro it was unbelievable in person like one of the producers came over after that segment and said there was shrapnel 30 feet away like it was all over the studio and the first like it was embarrassing i had hit one with a hammer like didn't didn't yeah didn't talk about being a bitch you know what yeah touche i got nothing on that but seriously it was and i was worried too because like like those little helmets you see them explode these were like they were like the ones that you put ice cream in at the ballpark and and we weren't sure if they were going to work and jess just here it is we actually have the clip here now we're going to run it and you saw the tail end of her exploding something what you didn't see is jet and shefty not be able to break one of these with a hammer and then she saw that i think it was like not never gonna be me that is not how this is gonna go and she was taking this boom i mean these things were exploding uh it was how far back i am there like i was hiding because i was worried i was gonna get one to the jugular yeah but then she brought you back up and you said, I trust you, I trust you. It was like, it's not her you're trusting here.
It's the bat in physics that you need to be trusted. No, that's exactly right.
And let's not forget, like, she's an Olympian. So, like, there's barrel control there.
There's skills. Like, she knows what she's doing.
It was awesome. And I'm appreciative of her laying it in.
You know you know like there was no half-assing that no it wasn't it was a fool yeah that was awesome she let she let it eat like that was that was a great opening day performance i was i was appreciative of what she did let's talk about opening day really quickly here we know you're uh probably very busy so thank you for taking a cold call here. Only three of these games, Kansas City being one of them, have any weather delay type implications.
Everything else is a go. This feels like one of the cleanest opening days we've had in a few years.
And what are some of the storylines you think that we need to be paying attention to? Obviously Paul Skeens starts the World Series trek for the Pittsburgh Pirates against the Miami Marlins today. Anything else we need to pay attention to? It's not just Paul Skeens starting the Pirates, but it's who he's going up against.
Sandy Alcantara, former Cy Young winner, coming back off of Tommy John surgery. It's going to be the best starting pitching matchup today.
I'm at Yankee Stadium. I am genuinely curious, guys, to see what the Yankees are this year.
Me too. And Ty, for real, do you think they're going to be good? Are you on this team? No, I mean, Jet, I would agree with you because it's weird because their bullpen is kind of the strength, but I don't know if their offense is good enough.
I don't know if they're going to be able to score enough runs where it matters. And also, the starting pitching is a huge question mark now with Cole going down and Luis Heal being out for as long as he's going to be out.
So I'm interested to see how it shakes out. Not just pinstripes or question marks too, aren't there? No, but it's the Yankees.
It's the Yankees. I still think they're going to make the playoffs.
I just don't know if they'll win the division. Here's the truth, guys.
Ty, at the end of the day, is probably right here. The American League is so wide open, 13 teams are contending in the AL this year.
At least believe they have some form of contention going on. When you've got that in this band of teams that's going to end up with somewhere between 83 and 87 wins,, it's going to be a coin flip.
And so I'm not suggesting like the Yankees are going to be garbage this year. No, they're not.
It's just after the Cole injury, after the Stanton injury, after the heel injury, after all these injuries that they're dealing with, it can be tough to come back from that. And so they have to do what they did last year when Garrett Cole missed the first few months of the season.
And doing so without quite the same starting pitching, that's where I think it could be problematic. Okay.
And riddle me this, and I know Ty and Bruce are going to have questions the same with Tone about everything happening today. Giancarlo Stanton's too strong.
Is that what I'm hearing? Giancarlo Stanton's too jacked? I just learned the other day from Yankees fans, they tell him not even to run full speed whenever he's running the bases because they don't want him to get injured. And his hands, I guess, and his arms are too jacked right now.
He's too strong. What is the John Carlos? Because with the loss of old Buddy going to the Mets, Soto, right? That's a big deal, especially with Aaron Judge and everything that happens in the end.
John Carlos's going to have to be a guy for you guys, right, at some point? I mean, at some point, but they have no idea if he's going to be able to play or when he's going to come back or anything like that. Oh, no.
Question marks all over the place for the pinstripes. Look, it's not great, and that's what the Dodgers have.
And I hate to bring up the Dodgers here because everybody hates the Dodgers now. I love the Dodgers.
I love Shohei. I like his dog.
I like the rest of the team. I like everything.
I like everything about them. Babe Ruth.
Next Babe Ruth. The reason that people hate the Dodgers is because they have these stars.
In truth, one of the reasons if you're going to hate the Dodgers is because they have so much depth. That's what makes them dangerous, that they can lose guys.
And after they lose guys, they just have another guy to come in and plug right into that. They paid more money, though, didn't they? Didn't they pay more money and everybody, the Dodgers, they're more invested? Is that an accurate take or no? Yeah, I mean, they have the highest payroll in baseball this year, absolutely.
So they're going to be spending half a billion dollars on salaries.

And, you know, some of that's going to be deferred.

But they have to pay a majority of that deferred money, like, into an account right now.

So the deferrals are not really the thing.

It is the total payroll, Pat.

And, yeah, their payroll is higher than everyone's.

But the Mets are going to be there.

The Yankees are a $300 million team. The Phillies, theies the cubs like they're teams that spend a lot of money still and so the idea that the dodgers are alone there no they're just the ones who are highest right now and that's why i think so many people are having a hard time uh with the idea that there's no salary cap in baseball right now whereas to suggest like a salary cap would solve these problems that that's where i'm not on board what was the big story going in the playoffs was it cleveland or detroit i don't remember was it uh both both cleveland and detroit didn't spend a lot of money right going in the playoffs that was the ordeal and as a pittsburgh pirates fan you see something like that you like kind of get hopeful now it didn't end up making in the end the dodgers beat the yankees like that is the biggest money spend and everything like that but like a team like the pirates or a team that isn't able to spend that amount of money because of ownership or choose not to spend that amount of money for ownership do they have a shot at this thing this year like what what team are the pirates the team that could potentially be under value or paid i guess and uh make a run no Say it, If Jared Jones were healthy, I would be a lot more on board with this.
Yeah, six weeks for now, but then he's got to build back up, and it's going to be a while before he throws a baseball or a competitive pitch for the Pirates again. What about Bubba Chandler? Hell yeah, they got Bubba Chandler.
I love Bubba Chandler, man. Bubba Chandler is my National League Rookie of the Year pick.
I think he is a dude. And him and Skeens together, and if Jones stays healthy with Mitch Keller, they got the pitching, Pat, but I'm sorry.
I just don't see the lineup being enough and that that's where the pirates have been for so long now and it's it's why it's so frustrating if you're a pirates fan it's it's been kind of stunning to me to see no i'm serious to see some of the pirates fans i mentioned a couple days ago you know i was asked about salary cap and pirates fans fans have been the loudest in favor of a salary cap. And I'm just wondering with Pirates fans, at what point are you going to look at your owner and ask him why he's not spending, rather than give him the gift that a salary cap would be to Major League Baseball ownership? So Pittsburgh Pirates fans have already asked that question for for years and now they're at the point where this guy's never going to change or sell the team so we need to somehow figure out how to make this we need people to come down to us we're macgyvering it yeah we're trying to uh that they've given up hope because seven springs didn't even have its best winner whenever he decided to sell it so the amount of money this guy has is just nowhere near what the dodgers guy is willing to spend and definitely not as much as cohen's willing to when to spend up there and then the steinbrenner family always gonna pay and it's like paul skeins is the reason why pirates fans are so hopeful and i think paul and i don't want to i don't want to speak for him because obviously i don't but like the things he's saying the um he wore the uh jolly roger like the jolly roger pirates uh tie today he's shouting out the city of pittsburgh today it's like pittsburgh let's go like he gets it he wants to i think he's trying to put pressure on ownership to be like hey let's take advantage of what we have here like i think he is publicly trying to apply a little bit of pressure like i would like to win as well let's do this and maybe ownership listens because this guy is what once in a generation type talent here's the thing about paul schemes that i don't understand what the pirates are doing we saw with garrett cole and we've seen so many other times that if they feel like they're not going to be able to resign someone they're going to trade right like that's just what they do other organizations do that too the Rays do that the Brewers do that it's not like an uncommon thing among small market teams but if you're the Pittsburgh Pirates and you know you have Paul Skeens for at least three years which is around the point at which guys like that typically get traded.
Aren't you doing everything you can to win over these next three years? So maybe just maybe you can convince him to want to stick around and sign a long-term deal. It's the only shot you got at doing that.
And to not try and maximize those Paul Skeen's years when he is very likely to be the best pitcher in Major League Baseball,

I just don't—that's the part that bothers me the most about the way the Pirates operate.

You know, I think you're right, and it's a sad state of affairs in Major League Baseball

when the team that has the guy who's one of the biggest stars in the game and is the biggest star on the mound doesn't care enough to go out and win. That is a damning indictment on the sport and something that, frankly, if the owner is not willing to do that, then the owner should change.
And truth is, Pat, I'm not just saying that because I believe it. There are other owners in Major League Baseball who want to get rid of the bad owners, too.
And I'll be very curious to see over the next couple of years as the collective bargaining agreement comes around and the landscape in baseball changes, whether those owners are willing to say that sort of thing out loud publicly. Because ownership is so imperative in sports.
We see it in football. We see it in see it in baseball we see it everywhere if you get good owners in sport that sport is going to benefit greatly because of it yes i concur completely in a city like pittsburgh who uh could be a great baseball melting pot loses out on generations of fans because of it it's like putting out a bad quality uh bad quality product is not good for obviously your team now the bottom line you're still making money because i think that's how a lot of the contracts work but for the good of the sport and for the league as a whole not good you know and it's like the pittsburgh pirate p hat is like the most famous one outside of the yankee one the p is everywhere and it's like the Pirates haven't been shit, you know, really in the

conversation of it all. I like that Jet said that.

Hey, Jet, we appreciate you, brother. Thank you, Jet.

We appreciate the hell out of you, brother.

Going to Monument Park? Where are you going?

Yeah, are you...

He's in the bowels right now. He can't hear you.
Deep in the bowels.

I'm getting back. I'm getting back into the right

Wi-Fi zone. No.

It's alright. Enjoy the hell out of your opening day, brother.

What?

Thank you, boys.

No problem.

You're the man.

Ladies and gentlemen, Jeff Passman.

I wonder if he was catching up to what I said before that.

He went super fast.

Yeah.

That's the technology, a little bit of a glitch.

He just did a full cooking there of old buddy who owns the park.

You know what the issue is?

Goddamn ballpark's too beautiful, so people still go to it.

It really is.

And the colors and the uniform.

It was a shit ballpark and a shit team, and nobody went.

Then maybe some change, but nope.

Crowd still comes.

Which is basically what happened with the A's.

Yeah, because it was a shit ballpark.

They played in a shithole.

Their team sucked, and they didn't spend anything, and they got what they wanted all along, which was basically for him to move the team to Vegas. But, like, it is.
I think it just came out. Like, the top 30 ballparks in the MLB is voted by, I want to say, like fans and players or something, and the Pirates are in the top five in, like, every single one.
So it's the same. And Zambelli Fireworks.
Zambelli, yep. And it's something to do.
do. And you can get cheap tickets in there.
So that place, with the views, with the experience, and no expectations of a win. That was the thing.
Whenever we would go to a Pirate game, even the most diehard Yenzers, they're not showing up thinking Pirates are going to win here. We're having a good time.
And if the Pirates win, we'll enjoy the Zambelli fireworks with a dub. But if they lose, we're enjoying the Zambelli fireworks after this game anyway.
So it's almost like a full culture of, like, eh, we'll see with the Pirates. Then a Paul Skeens gets in there, and I think you see a lot of Pittsburgh people be like, hey, we got a guy now.
And I think they want it. And it sounds like Jeff is talking about other ownership wanting it.
And Jeff going that hard at it, it feels like this is a real convo that's potentially taking place. Maybe we get new ownership in Pittsburgh, Nick.
Maybe that is something that happens. Fat chance, Pat.
Those are pipe dreams that'll never happen. You know as well as anybody, this guy's making money hand over fist.
He's got no incentive to sell. He's got no reason to sell sell why would he sell uh we had great players in the past we had kutch come through and win an nl mvp what 10 years ago yep and they still didn't spend the money they didn't invest to your point such a beautiful ballpark people go imagine going expecting to win that place would be filled every night you're still making money a lot of money more money.
More money? Yes. You're making more money? I don't understand it.
Those tickets can get more expensive. And you make more money, buddy.
So if you're money-driven, having a winner is how you get more money. That is just...
Like all the hype around Skeens. I don't know what it is, but I would imagine they're probably selling out every game that he's starting.
And would imagine that the ticket prices for those games compared to like some of the games in the past are probably like 10x you know like it's not he did that here for the indianapolis indians exactly and he's literally tickets were 10x the price of what they were whenever he was pitching people were just filing in onto the hill yeah to kind of watch it he is awesome to watch like he is he's a fun watch because he's got enough moxie to keep it entertaining. He's got enough talent for you to be like, holy hell.
And it feels like even the batters, and he has consummate respect. He's like, he does everything the perfect way almost.
He's a big dog. Hope he doesn't get wasted in Pittsburgh in that Pirates organization.
But it does feel like he's trying to apply a little public pressure. Yeah, which is which is awesome because like why let yourself be kind of a tree falling in the woods where every five days you're just throwing an absolute gem and it's just like oh who cares it's great that he's putting that public heat on it because it it is a joke and like what if the new cba then they institute a salary cap then what's your fucking excuse to not not spend up to it you know yeah unless they put a floor in there and in there.
And then what happens with all the salaries that have already been agreed to for like 10 years? I don't know. Well, and that's what Jet implied, that he thinks there's a chance the owners would lock the players out because that would probably be a massive, like, whoa, whoa, whoa, like I signed a fucking 10-year deal worth X amount of money, and now all that stuff needs to get renegotiated or however it gets distributed.
Yeah, exactly. And then we had that happen where old CBA, old, old CBA, the first five picks were making more money than 15-year vets.
That's what they were signing for. Then negotiation comes, and that gets cut into like one-sixth of it all, and it was like, was like wow sucks for this group but the group class that literally got drafted the year before like they were the last one that got like broken off you know and it's like potentially something for baseball is going to happen the same way that is a tough deal to get done though anytime you're taking away money from people uh especially professional athletes there's going to be a lot of parties that are not happy about it agents players lawyers not saying agents and lawyers aren't the same but not always and then you know like yeah the history of the game the future of the game next generation of the game like that gets real soiled yeah that gets real dirty they had massive issues trying to like come to an agreement uh for the covid shortened season because they want oh season because they wanted players to take a third of what their salary was supposed to be over the year, and all the players were like, fuck that.
I'm not doing that. No way.
I still have a chance to get hurt and everything. And that season almost didn't get played because of how dirty it got.
But it was good for the league, I think, to have that season. Without a doubt.
You know, that's the thing. Yeah, they played 60 or whatever.
I hope they all get it, 62 or something. I forget what

the, it was an interesting number.

Still a lot of games.

So many games.

The league has moments.

You know? For sure. And with Shohei

and Paul. Playoff baseball

still, like, if Skeens could get there,

like, it's right up

there with, you know, like, other sports

playoffs. Can have those moments.
Yeah. You know? Hopefully they do.
This is the year. Good luck, baseball.
Here we go. Congratulations to J.J.
Watt. He's now the number two booth at CBS.
Hell yeah, J.J. Let's go, J.J.
Danielson retires. Now J.J.
Watt will be alongside Ian Eagle. And obviously the Ian Eagle family is obviously synonymous with calling games in a great way i think he's a talented broadcaster i think jj watt will do very well at this i think he got a chance to try it with netflix you know uh on christmas day whenever he was talking about the steelers game this has been a dream i believe of his there's some athletes some players that get into the media world who really want to call games And I think the reason why they want to call games is because when they watch games back that they played in They thought there was a lot of things that were potentially missing not only for them before their teammates That's why whenever you see Greg Olson get in there.
He calls the game his way Tom Brady calls the game his way Troy Aikman calls the game his way Collinsworth calls the game his way I'm excited to see what angle J.J. Watt takes Obviously, you have to to cover the quarterback.
You have to cover the prime positions that are taking place. But what does he see that maybe nobody else will see coming from a Hall of Famer's perspective? He wants to do it.
I think this has been a dream of his. And him getting the opportunity to do it, we're incredibly pumped and proud of him.
I think he's going to be great on CBS. Yeah, I would assume so.
And not having the pressure of... Not that they're not going to still get great games, but, like, that's what always happened with Tom this last year and Romo.
You know, you immediately get that game where everyone's watching. So, like, not that people aren't still going to nitpick and take shots at him regardless, but it's not the marquee game every single week where people are just like, you know, because it's different, like, I don't like this guy.
Like, this is different than what it's been the last 10 years or so.

Like, I don't enjoy this.

And hopefully he doesn't run into any of that.

So is he calling all the games here?

Yeah, I believe he's their number two team because Gary Danielson's retiring.

It was him and Vern.

And I think Charles Davis is going to where Gary was.

And I think JJ's taking Charles Davis's spot in the NFL, if I'm correct. You better hold that football.

So,

that's a lot of travel now for the boy.

A lot. J.J.
Watt. Yeah.

You know, because he was doing CBS like,

I don't know, what did it end up being? Probably like

eight weeks, shouldn't it? Yeah, like a couple weeks on,

a couple weeks off. Nine, maybe, eight, nine

weekend appearances, then had the Super Bowl,

so obviously he also has Burnley,

and he has many other business ventures

and everything that he's a part of. Obviously

family growing and all that type of stuff, so this is a lot. I'll be excited to see his thoughts on his schedule, you know, and is he going to go out for practices on Friday, and then we got meetings on Saturday, then game on Sunday, then flying back on Sunday night.
I think that is kind of the convo around the commentary teams is like it's a lot of commitment, a lot of travel. A lot of travel, a lot of staying in other cities.
You're back basically in the football grind. You've got meetings during the week.
You've got film during the week. Then you've got travel.
You've got practice. Then you've got your meetings again in person.
Then you have obviously production meeting. Then you have pre-meeting.
Then it's showtime. It's like, I'll be excited to see how he handles all that.
Because I think Al Michaels does Zooms now instead of traveling to him. But he's been doing it for 50 years or whatever it is.
So I'll be excited to see how they approach it all. Yeah.
And Tom had all the stuff with like the, oh, can he go to these meetings?

Can he be in these other facilities?

So he could kind of skirt around it already.

You'd assume that, I mean, I would assume they want JJ there with it being his first year,

being like, hey, you've got to come to everything, every production meeting.

Like, we need you kind of on the same page as Ian every single week.

So, yeah, that will be.

Because, I mean, that's what, a four-day work week, boom, instantly for one game. I think he's going to do good.
You think he's going to be good? Yeah. I liked him on Christmas.
Were you guys just questioning if JJ loves the grind? How dare you? He's going to be there at every meeting, taking notes, listening to his Fort Minor, just enjoying the hell out of life and the process. We know.
It's a lot of time on the road. Especially when you've been out of it for a couple years.
Especially for those Burnley boys who are back in the Premier League. Are they going to be? They're going to be close.
They're probably going to be in the playoff right now, which is electrified. Okay, so they're going to make it into the playoff.
When does the playoff start over there for that league? Ooh, great question. How's ConcaeFootPod doing? Be coming out tomorrow morning.
Okay, that's what we're talking about. Hell yeah.
Hope you guys are just going on with USMNT. Oh, Jeff Cameron is fucking pissed.
Okay. Jeff Cameron, former men's national team member.
He also played in the premier league. He's also a part of con KFA soccer club.
He's one of the hosts of the con KFA pod alongside Breck Shea and old Gumpy back there. It is our soccer authority.
It is where we go to to learn about what's going on in the soccer world. If they don't talk about it, we don't know about it.
If they talk about it, we assume we're supposed to know about it. If they talk about something we're not interested in, we do tell them.
We have told them. I hope they're calling for the coach's job on the next episode.
Potch? I'm already there. You don't need a new gaff.
The World Cup is on our turf. Yeah.
We need to figure it out. We need some boys that are willing to fight out there.
What happened? We lost to Canada, I heard? You lost to Panama and Canada. Yeah.
Boys don't care about the press on their chest. They're too worried about the names on their fucking back.
Well, I thought that's what this guy was about. I thought this guy was all about, hey.
He just got here. He'll get a turnaround.
Okay, so we're saying he hasn't put his culture in yet.

He's just getting a chance to experience the previous culture.

And what's happening now is we're losing to Panama and Canada?

Yes.

Never again.

We got to get Gio Reyna.

He's just got to get his legs back underneath him.

For some reason, his conditioning isn't where it needs to be.

So he's been out.

He does not play anywhere he goes anymore.

It is an issue.

Why doesn't he play?

What are we talking about?

I don't know.

Maybe he's just not that good.

What do you mean he's not that good?

I've seen him play.

He's going to anywhere he goes anymore. It is an issue.
Why doesn't he play? What are we talking about? I don't know. Maybe he's just not that good.
What do you mean he's not that good? I've seen him play. He's good.
I think what has happened here is the media has labeled these guys as the golden generation and I fear that besides Pulisic, they might not be. What? The goalie's really good.
The goalie is, Matt Turner has been shite because he went to England and he's not playing anymore either. So what's happened is these guys that are playing on these MLS teams, when they played, Diego Luna played the other night, probably the best player on the pitch, but these guys are going to Europe and they're not playing.
So yes, they got the move to Europe, but they're not playing. This is a chess chess play by europe they saw us getting good yep and then now they sign are you american coming to play congratulations not knowing that the mls has to balloon the oar yeah okay the mls is the best league in the fucking world and now all our guys still think it's 10 years ago before once again the best player in the world's playing and you know so they think going to europe's deal, which would have been.
That is a huge deal. When Clint Dempsey goes over there, it was a massive ordeal.
Tim Howard went over and played over there. It was a big deal.
We got an American playing in the Premier League. This is huge.
This is a massive ordeal. Christian Pulithic going over there and growing up through the system was a big deal.
Now it's like, damn, this is the league. Those guys are starting like Tim Howard, Clint Dempsey start every game.
Pulisic starts every game for AC Milan. Matt Turner's like third string on Arsenal.
He's getting loaned out. He ain't doing shit.
Come back to MLS. Start Zach Steffen.
Come play for the Pittsburgh Riverhounds if you need to. Bingo.
Hell yeah. Let's get ready for what matters.
The World Cup on our turf board. I'm worried.
Me too. Unless, you know, Lytle Messi changes his name to Lou Messi and plays with us next World Cup, I don't think a fucking MLS All-Star team is going to win the World Cup.
So, my worries are that he's never going to be Lou Messi. He might.
What would he have to do? He'd have to get his name changed? He would have to go down to Staples Center, right? Get a passport? Correct. And he's now an American.
He's an American. We need him to take that citizen test? Yeah.
Or we have someone from FC Miami or whatever the fuck their name is, and we have them take the test for him. Maybe.
Classic SAT situation. I'm Lou Messi.
Give me the test. Inter-Miami is basically Team Argentina and Spain at this point as well.
Exactly. We need all those guys saying they're American.
I don't think we can keep his last name as Messi. He needs to be like Lou.
Lou Messino. Yeah.
Busquets needs to immediately become Butch. Yeah.
Exactly. Butch.
Butch. Walk in there.
Walk in there and say you're Lou Messi and just do two soccer moves. It's just one of those.
Got to have the calf tat. Yep.
The shin calf tat. Pretty simple.
We do need those guys to play for the United States of America in the next World Cup. There's time to figure it out.
Gold Cup this summer. I think if that goes shite, then maybe you start judging Potch a bit.
But I think just give him a little bit. I think Gold Cup, they'll do well.
He doesn't speak the best English? No. What was he saying? He's from Argentina.
Okay, so do our players speak English? Because I know whenever we had the German gaffer, they all spoke German. Jürgen Klinsmann.
Yeah. Do these guys speak English? Or how's the communication between he and the players? So, Potts coached at Tottenham, took them to a Champions League.

Coached at PSG, speaks French as well.

He's been everywhere.

Good luck out there.

We need you.

It's on our turf.

And we have to qualify because it is.

Yeah, we automatically qualify.

But it's just making out of the group.

We need a favorable group draw.

Maybe you have Qatar in there still for no fucking reason. Well, Qatar because they hosted it, right? Yes.
Is that how people talk about us? No. Probably.
Not yet. Not yet, but we're losing the fucking Panama.
I assume they do. I think they're laughing.
What are you talking about? They have a canal. No.
We're going to get our hopes up like we do every single World Cup, and we're all going to be hyped up, and then they're going to shit the bed, and then we're all going to be like, what the fuck? You're not going to cheer for America, Ty?

I'm not doing it. I agree with what Foxy just said.

No, I'm not going to watch the World Cup. I'm going to put a moratorium on it.
I'm not fucking doing it. You're not going to

watch the World Cup in the United States of America?

Nope. It's going to be

on our time. Normally

we had to do the entire math. It was at a different

time. It's set up for us to watch it

now. It's on our grass.
I get it,

but unless fucking

Lou Messi

leads the boys out Lou Messino Leads the boys out With a pencil thin mustache Americanize him a little bit Lou Musselman I like that, that's good Luigi Musselman Lou Musman. Any of these names will work for Lionel Messi.
Until we do that, I'm not going to let myself get to the point where I get excited for the World Cup and we go 1-2-1 and don't make it out of the group stage. And we're going to say, we will decide whether or not this team should be representing our entire country or not.
Yes. Because we do a lot of aces for America.
Right. On this particular program.
Exactly. And then we're losing to Canada with everything going on.
You know? Did that in hockey, too. We need Wyatt Hendrickson playing center back.
Yeah, we do. Thank you.
Boom. And LeBron.
Yeah. He could probably play goalie.
Bingo. Big old mitts.
And then we need Polithic to play his best ball. Oh, yeah.
He will. We need Steve Nash.
Steve Nash. He's Canadian.
Wow. He's doing what Leo Messi's doing as well.
And he could keep his name Steve Nash, which is huge. Yeah.
And a look. He looks like.
Yeah, he does. Yeah, yeah.
He very much looks like standard American dad. He does.
He lives in America. Yeah.
So he's already got the mailing address. He's actually probably, at this point, an American citizen, I would guess.
He probably took the test. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Gump, have you been preparing for that test that's coming right around the corner? Studying every night, brother.
No shot. That's a tough test.
Just watch Hamilton a couple times. It'll be fine.
Still got like five more years. That's for one era.
Seven more years? No, I'm not. I was talking about Hamilton.
Oh, yeah. Hamilton is just one but you would you would learn a lot about it you know and uh historically accurate i mean for me i saw i mean yeah the king was singing you're right before the start of the revolution i mean maybe with the way he was talking the way they've uh made him appear he was an electrifying character.

It wasn't great, obviously. I didn't see it.

It's on Disney Plus if you want to watch it.

Hamilton is?

The original cast?

I think it's the original cast.

It had to have been.

They filmed it to be a movie.

There he is.

What a time. I know they weren't supposed to babyface him, but whenever the king shows up, good heel presence.
Yes. It is a good, good pop in there.
The guy from Mindhunter? Yeah. It is.
Yeah. Yeah, Jonathan Groff.
He kind of stole the show he's good actor the the broadway folks are wild

like very very well talent yeah so much wife and i used to go to a bunch of those whenever we were traveling out to new york and i just like watching people do their thing like people that practice people that are prepared people have spent a lot of hours on something i like watching them do their of shit, whatever the shit is. Some shit I'm more into than other shit, but watching people

have to perform and execute in front of others with pressure on. I enjoy.
Those Broadway people, they're doing three shows a day, four days straight, five days straight. They're singing, jumping, dancing, remembering, acting.
I think the first i saw was in the middle of like the talent show era or like the singing contest era and i'm watching these people like american oh this is gonna be the next big star and i go to the broadway show and there's 20 people that can sing just as good and they're sprinting jumping running dancing and they got comedic timing yes and i'm like how come why don't they just do a talent show of everybody that's in these Broadway? But that's like, I think there are more committed artists is the Broadway people. Like that is kind of the viewpoint of that whole thing.
So much talent over there. Oh yeah, big time.
Full commitment of their lives. Well, that's what like a lot of these like big time actors like cut their teeth in the theater beforehand.
You know, I think like Bradley Cooper told us like when he was on that he was in London london for like seven years doing that one thing but i bet he was doing a bunch of like you know whatever their i can't remember what their version of broadway is but like that's very popular as well i think like a lot of the big time actors like denzel is on broadway right now with jake gyllenhaal like they're doing a show on broadway so it's like and that sharpen your tools james franco did of mice and similar deal. Walter White was LBJ in a play.
Book of Mormon introduced me to the whole thing. The Book of Mormon.
Yeah, it is. With the microphones here, too.
Like, the way they get through. You really crushed that, Bruce.
The microphones on their foreheads, that was a whole different ballgame, too. Have you ever seen that? No.
So they, like, tape their head almost we should do that they do this and it's like it's an interesting thing and i think it's because it's they have to change the quick change yeah so that shit just kind of goes through like their hair it's like supposed to be a piece of their hair like in their hair and then every once in a while some of them have it a little bit closer down here and it's like why do you all have something taped to your forehead why do you all have going on there there it is yeah yeah you see it it's all in the right on lynn stone yeah once again probably on a few milligrams whenever i'm in there at these shows sure why they all got a bug on his forehead everybody's on the same and some of them a little bit looser than the others you know it kind of gets down there a little bit this is obviously hamilton not uh book of Mormon. That Book of Mormon I think became a billion dollar entity.
Just traveling. Was that all accurate? Pretty close.
Did it have them being absolute just... You're talking about prim evil? Yeah.
I haven't watched that yet. I heard it's pretty wild.
Yeah, it's good. Gruesome.
Yes. Jim Irsay's in it.
Yes, he is. Yeah.
Steals the show. Peter Berg creation.
That's right. I bet you that's going to be amazing.
I'm going to check it out. All right.
Russ Wilson had a press conference with the New York Giants. Congrats to New York Giants.
Felt professional. Oh, yeah.
Didn't it? Felt professional. 10.5 million guaranteed, up to 21 million for incentives.
A one-year deal for Russell Wilson to be a a member of the new york giants you know he got his uh welcome to the city at madison square garden very similar to what aaron rogers had a few years back all the giants fans go crazy russell wilson spends at his first completion as a giant obviously at madison square garden he said go big blue so that is what i guess all giants fans and we all need to understand that that is what we are rolling with or riding with if we should uh consider it a little bit better this season for the giants uh win total goes from three and a half to five and a half though how do you feel about that bruce brown and how did uh day one basically of russell willson as your quarterback uh it was amazing you know it was just welcoming russ home he looked right at home at MetLife Stadium, looked right at home at Madison Square Garden. The go big blue, I don't know.
That's what you guys say. I've never really heard much of that.
What if it's the go big blue crew and you guys say go BBC? I like that. Sweet.
Now we're talking. Can you say it, Bruce? What if you guys say that go big blue crew yeah and then but for sure like yeah bbc yeah that's what you guys can do over there yeah i mean i guess we're kind of a workshop stage of what the the chant would be but yeah yeah go big blue man that's what we're doing and we're our wind total is bumping just because of uh pictures promos, pressers, and a throw at Madison Square Garden.
We've got to like that. Yeah, you've got to love it.
I do think five and a half is probably an appropriate number now. You can probably think about that under.
He said three and a half was appropriate yesterday. Yeah, it was.
It was, but now it's five and a half. Oh, they're giving me two.
No, I mean, things are looking up. We have a professional quarterback that can read the defense and throw the ball down the field, and that'll be a nice reprieve.
The internet took a shot at your quarterback. They said this is a good sign.
Danny Dimes would have shit his pants and checked it down to Sierra in the front row. Okay.
Everybody needs to relax. Danny Dimes should open competition with Anthony Rivers.
Yeah, he's more of a New York Rangers guy. You know, they got mostly khakis and all that in attendance, and they don't do the ball-throwing display.
Speaking of superstars, Russell Wilson and Sierra obviously took a photo together. There was rumors that New York was a desirable destination for Russ, Sierra, and their family a couple years back.
He ends up with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Now he's with the New York Giants.
Tone Diggs, obviously Russ brought some exciting times to the Pittsburgh Steelers for a good portion of the season. It did not end well.
And then the other day you said, we do not want him back as a Pittsburgh Steeler. Why is that? And what did you say to New York Giants fans? He did come in.
He took the offense from 21st to 12th when he came in, when he took over for Fields. Those first six games, it was awesome.
He was slinging it all around. We had that Bengals game where he put up 45 points.
Ever since then, it was a bit of a downfall. Lost the last five, obviously.
I don't know. It just seemed like I don't know if he didn't get along with the locker room or if he didn't get along get along with harthur smith those are the reports but it didn't feel like the steelers wanted to back because there was never reported offer uh it was reported that the russell wanted to go back to the steelers but i assume if if he wanted to go back and if there was an offer he would have taken it um so it just kind of fell to the giants uh it felt like at this point the steelers want aaron or they are okay Maystog and potentially drafting someone, but that's kind of like where we're at right now.
And the Aaron story is an interesting one. Yeah.
Because there's obviously Kwesi Adolfa Mensah, which is a Ghana name, Ghana heritage name, even though from Cherry Hill, New Jersey. Cherry Hill, New Jersey.
Because whenever we see him speak see him speak we go this guy looks so young like we forgot how young he looks he spoke about you know the entire quarterback room and his situation in a way a lot of people are reading into it is he didn't close the door on aaron rogers and he even alluded to like uh ideally basically jj mccarthy would be the starter but no doors have been closed although there has been a lot of alluding to jj's time then also there's been a lot of chatter about kevin o'connell's relationship with aaron rogers and is aaron rogers waiting to see if the minnesota vikings want to make a play for aaron or is aaron potentially contemplating not playing at all or what is he doing with the pittsburgh steelers and he just buying or waiting, trying to figure it all out and trying to see what's the best option for him? But I guess as the Vikings conversation remains, which it is, it is still. There's people that say, I don't think so.
Whenever they read some of the quotes or hear some of the quotes, then there's some people that are saying, hasn't said no either. Then you look at the team and you think about what Aaron can do and what Aaron does best.
Accuracy and reading a defense. That is kind of what Aaron Rodgers does.
The Kevin O'Connell offense, what do you need? You need to be able to read a defense and you need to be accurate because you're going to have to make tight window throws. But you're going to have to know that you're going to make those tight window throws.
So that's reading the defense. He has both those things at his age.
That team is loaded. They're playing for the number one seed in the NFC on week 18 against the Detroit Lions.
So obviously they lose quick exit out of the playoffs. Nobody wanted that for the Vikings.
But from a team perspective, with B-Flow leading that defense, and Kevin O'Connell's offense, with the amount of weapons they have, if you're Aaron Rodgers and you're hearing that there's still a chance you could potentially go there, wouldn't you want to know if that is true or not before deciding anything for the first time in your free agency period? That's kind of where we stand, seemingly, with the Aaron Rodgers saga. That's seemingly where we're at.
Yeah, and it makes sense. I mean, why would he rush to make a decision now if he thinks that that door's even open open 5% of the way? I think a lot of people would assume that he, deep down, or just when you look at the situation as a whole, that he would maybe prefer to play for the Vikings as opposed to the Steelers, although the Steelers kind of seems like the slam dunk option right now.
But this just, you know, it's like we've talked time and time again how this is going to be the last decision he makes in terms of what team he's going to play for for his entire career or or yeah or he's going to just be done one of the two so it's like if that's the case and you think that this is even a slight it like the the least bit of an option and you kind of want to go there then like he's definitely he definitely, he's going to continue to take his time. We are just speaking as people that are watching it all unfold publicly.
As all of you are, we have no extra information. AJ Hawk will be back next week.
He's on spring break with his kids this week. We're hoping they're having a great time.
We'll try to pressure him into letting us know if he's been told anything, he won't say a damn word. And does it last in an X, x you know like there's so many yes i think we all kind of uh are wondering the same thing but i think the conversation that's missing from some people is like huge decision for aaron rogers this is a huge huge for his life yeah for his future for his leg like every there's a lot on the line here whenever it comes to making this particular good i feel like the good part for if you're a steelers fan and you're like, all right, come on, make a decision.
At this point, I don't think it matters. If Aaron comes and plays on the Steelers, it's most likely a one-year deal.
It shouldn't affect their draft situation this year. If they're going to draft a quarterback this year, I don't think if Aaron's there or not should affect it or whatever because it's going to be either they're going to sit behind Aaron and learn a ton or they're going to compete with Mason and be a starter potentially.
But, I mean, it could be until Midsummer's Night at this point that we're going to get to see this. Well, and also, it could be Midsummer's Night or maybe the orange blossom in your eyes.
But honestly, I mean, it could be whenever. I'm sorry.
I wouldn't hold the press. The Giants said they're done, basically.
Yep. They either got intel that they were no longer in, or they said we need a decision before the draft, obviously, because there's a lot that hinges upon it, and maybe said it wasn't able to do that.
We don't know. Once again, we do not know, but that is clearly what happened in the Giants' building.
It's like for the Pittsburgh Steelers, they signed Mason Rudolph. Let's assume that they have interest in somebody in this draft at quarterback position.
Potentially. And now they move.
Good luck, Aaron. We're pulling for you, buddy.
At this point, I kind of want him to wait until after OTAs because I don't want to hear the bullshit about he's got to go to Gaza or the pyramids or whatever and fucking check those out and miss OTAs or whatever. He likes to travel.
I don't think he's going to Gaza. I'm at Giza.

Pyramids of Giza. Sure.
Yes.

It's our first flight to Gaza.

Yep.

The name is out there.

I'm at Giza. Yeah, we don't know a lot about

the world. What's going on with those pyramids?

Has he checked them out since we found out

the new stuff? I would assume

he's got a couple shovels

and he's heading over there soon.

He's going to just dig. What an interesting

I'm not going to got a couple shovels and he's heading over there soon.

And he's going to just dig.

What an interesting development. Just out of nowhere

too. Like, oh yeah.

These things that everybody's wondered about forever.

Let's add a little bit

fucking more to that.

It's what year? 2025?

Did you know? We just found

there's what? Hundreds of feet of coils. It's actually two miles deep and there's a whole structure down there yeah never knew that before how how did we not know have we not checked this thing out inside and out has there not been uh this is a modern marvel what the fuck have we not been looking into how do we just now find out yeah i don't think any of us could have expected what's down there.
Well, what's down there? A lot. It's like, well, where'd that come from? We have no idea.
We have no idea. So, all right, good.
Happy we're all learning. Happy we're all learning.
And then once you read about that, then you scroll the next one. Some billionaire has an escape room, a hideaway room that's like 30,000 square foot underground.

It's like, well, what he's getting ready for?

Well, you know, the people of the past, they dug underneath there.

They thought someone was like, well, all right.

I'm just going to continue to be a land animal here.

Yeah.

Got any sports on right now?

Yeah, is there a...

Algorithm.

Sweet 60.

Golf shop.

TGL. TGL.

I know, I said no TGL before before but now i need tgl back it does get like this what do i gotta do i gotta go into the search and give this thing some new directions yeah for real that's how you talk to it i think bob enough i don't need to see somebody getting curb stomped at fucking 7 30. the death videos are coming back yes yeah i've had to i think it was because the oosklahoma drill yeah yeah so the guy that runs the oosklahoma drill that's in australia i guess so he added me in a video and i watch his video i guess they're doing that like once a month they do those and i started seeing more videos come out of that there's some real collisions happening i bet there's some real so i real.
So I think because the Ouz-Goloma drill got into my algo, the algo was like, oh, you like that? Wait till you see this. Go taste the violence.
There's nothing with sports involved, but we got some other collisions that are coming on. And it's like, no, I don't want to see that.
So you got to go back into the search and tell them. No death.
There should be a no death option. Yeah.
Yeah, there was. There was for a long time yeah that's kind of a there was a long long time a uh kind of a handshake agreement between us and yeah yeah i wish d-boat was here d-boat took a certification class on ai yesterday yeah throughout the day walk over he's in the middle he's in his computer i look over and there's a big question across there is his number one question can my computer think for me and i'm like what the fuck are you doing what are you doing right now and he goes i'm taking an ibm class 10 minutes it says i'm gonna learn about ai i said you're you're dropping into a class right now he goes absolutely i go if you could keep me updated that'd be great in that 10 minute class i think turned into he wanted a 201 and i got into 301 By the end of the day, I think he had a certificate on AI information.
He's taking good notes. Yeah, he was.
Full notes. Full notebook through this yesterday on AI.
Thank God he's a part of our group. Yeah, can a computer really think? This was the start of it yesterday.
Can a computer really think? That was first page. his big takeaway yesterday was that these motherfuckers can never have a conversation you know they don't understand context so what we got them in is okay always gonna need at this point always yeah that's me wondering what the fuck is going on here you're taking a class right now absolutely that notebook right in front of him filled it out completely it was awesome once he told me what he was doing i was like god you're such a better right now? Absolutely.
That notebook right in front of him? Filled it out completely. It was awesome.
Once he told me what he was doing, I was like, God, you're such a better human than I am. That is such a good play to be able to do that.
He had to pass a test yesterday, I think. He was really stressing out the test at the end of the day.
Yeah, sure. Because he had stuff that he had learned at 8 a.m.
over in that room. He was taking a test over here.
There was a thing. I think he did good, though.
He does love that. He's always trying to learn something.
Always. Investment stuff.
AI stuff. Yeah, he makes the most of his time.
It's very awesome to watch. I look at his screen.
Can a computer really think? I go, D-butt. Let's fucking not be done.
Then he says, no, complete opposite. I'm taking a full fucking class and course here.
He's going to have a certificate, I think. I'm like, we just put that thing up.
Yeah. Start stacking those certificates.
That's not a bad idea. Maybe we should start doing that.
Maybe we get better today. Do you think we did? I think so.
Yeah, we get better 1% every day. Thunder buckets, I'm going to get better today.
There you go. All right, boys.
It's been a great week thus far. Shout out to all our guests today taking time.
Second lieutenant in the Air Force, Wyatt Hendrickson, congrats on your championship. And also being a guy that I think all of us are going to rally behind for the 2028 Olympics.
Good luck on your quest for that. And good luck in your service in the Air Force whenever you complete that.
Shout out to Koa Pete. Pete, Koa Pete.
Sorry, Koa. That was at the beginning of the show.
Koa was awesome. Yeah.
No NIL deals around him. No.
We kind of talked about that during the break. Yeah, no door dash bag, nothing, just all business.
Just him and his mom. Just like, hey, here's what I want to do.
Thanked every person that got him to the place. Absolute professional, obviously older brother, currently offensive lineman for the Raiders.
His dad was in the NFL. I think a bunch of his older brothers, he's one of seven.
A couple of his older brothers played college hoops. Sister played college football.
His sister played college hoops and was like, this guy made 40. Congrats to Arizona.
Congrats to Arizona. Seth Greenberg obviously, great chatter.
Sweet 16 tonight. Let's enjoy it.
Hope you win all your bets. Seth Greenberg likes Arizona plus nine and half.
And he likes BYU-Alabama over. He said, this is an NBA game happening here in these two.
So Seth's giving out a couple bets. What's that, Bruce? Did he like Coach Cal's Razorbacks as well? Oh, yeah, he did like Coach Cal's Razorbacks.
And then I said, thank you for giving out picks. And I know he goes, I got to do something.
I'm talking all day. So he just starts seeing.
He saw those numbers up there. Yeah.
Yeah. All right.
Yep. Here we go.
I am going to let it ride. The over for Alabama BYU, just so everyone knows, is 175 and a half, which in a college basketball game is insane.
Absurd. Did he know it was 175 and a half? Probably not.
Probably not. I don't think so.
That's a lot of points. They can shoot it now.
90-90? They can shoot it. They said it was going to be an NBA game.
Yeah, legit. They just bombed threes.
Bomb threes. 90-90? Yeah.
It's the Book of Mormon. Are they playing? 2025? College basketball? Yep.
Good question. Basketball stadium? Prudential center.
Prudential center. Oh, okay.
Okay. Well, New York, Newark, New Jersey.
Yeah, that's where the devil's been. All right.
Maybe they'll flatten the ball out a little bit. Exactly.
90-90 near, damn near the game has to be, somewhere around there. I mean, the Wisconsin-BYU game was super high scoring, so it could get there,

but you worry about them being maybe just a tiny bit tight in Sweet 16. I watched

48-46 the other day. BYU

averages 82, allows

72, but Alabama can fill

it. It is a

very high total, but if it

goes, it's going to go. It is hard to

envision after watching Arkansas

and St. John's just foul each other every possession for two hours straight to imagine a 90-90 game, but maybe we're getting that tonight.
Alright, I'm riding with you, Seth. Just because of how ridiculous this feels.
Amma averages 90.8 a game. Okay.
And how much BYU? You said 82? 82. We're doing it.
That's 172. Still a couple short.
We're doing it. And those are – how's Alabama's defense? Is that great? Let me get that.
Because you said BYU gives up 72 points? 72. That feels like a lot of points in college hoops.
Yeah. Now we wait.
Does Alabama smack the wood or not?

Their opponent

They are ranked 346

In opponent points per game

So no

They are number one in points per game

346 in opponent

They give up 81 a game

They're an over machine

Alright so let's assume this one goes over

If you don't ride with us

We understand though

Because boy I don't like it

Thank God. Let's fill up the bucket tonight, boys.
Okay? Let's start this Sweet 16 in electrifying fashion. Let's do some offense.
All right. Be a friend.
Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life.
We're in this thing together. Okay? We appreciate you all so much.
TikTokok live crew tiktok people thank you for rocking with us to the espn plus people and disney plus people thank you for allowing us to be a part of your life into the og youtube crew hell yeah you guys knew it was uncensored over here the entirety a lot of people watching the espn version of it going it was audio keep getting muted LeBron's team doesn't want them to get a beep because it sounds bad, so they mute them. It's like, no, will you do that every time? Because I think the beep is obnoxious.
I think that is, it makes it sound like you're saying something terrible. So the mute was the decision that was made by me coming on to ESPN.
Did not know it was going to be as long of a beep, though. I thought it had a little bit more agility.
I thought the beep had a little bit more agility, but that is a safe nail there. Uncensored in its entirety, currently living on YouTube and was uncensored in its entirety on YouTube.
Shout out to the YouTube people. I can't wait to see some of you YouTube people and some of you people that allow this to happen every single day at PPG Paints Arena on April 9th, Wednesday night.
We'll be streaming it live on YouTube, TikTok Live, and X. And obviously, in the arena is going to be hopefully electrifying.
All signs are pointing to that. We might open up a couple more tickets.
Might open up a few more tickets now. There's going to be some tickets that are going to be in some of the giveaway zones.
Okay, everybody that's already purchased a ticket is in a giveaway zone. But then there were some seats that didn't get into the giveaway zone, but also were potentially going to be like for cameras that we've been able to reconfigure and find more tickets for sale.
So there are a few seats, individual seats, that are available in giveaway zones. Okay then we open up some more uh with the pretense that are going to be like this is a non giveaway section so probably 15 bucks instead of 20 bucks it'll probably be even cheaper but there will be uh another section or two being opened up that is not in a giveaway zone which is going to be a big part of the show uh i think there's going to be um more than a handful of winners okay so it's not going to be like thousands of winners there's going to be more than a handful of winners there's going to be tickets that are going to be available that you definitely will not be but there'll be a lot of people in the arena that are not winners but there will be people in there that are massive winners yes and those people will all be in the game except for the non-giveaway zone tickets that will be available but those will be cheap those will be cheaper than the actual tickets because you're not in the giveaway zone right but there will be individual tickets that were in the giveaway zones that have become available as well that we're going to put up for sale so i think look for that in the next few days another wave of ticket sales you can get in the building have a good time with us and then if you're coming alone or didn't think about coming alone know that if you do and you get that ticket you're gonna feel at home whenever you walk in there it is not gonna matter that thing is gonna be a vibe inside with all parties so we appreciate the hell out of everybody and uh we'll be back tomorrow be a friend tell a friend something friend something nice.
It might change their life. We're in this thing together.
Team on me. Team on three.
One, two, three, team. Goodbye.
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