PMS 2.0 1294 - Dan Marino, Ari Emanuel, Jameis Winston, Kenny Chesney & More

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to the Convention Center down here in glorious New Orleans. We're at Radio Row for Super Bowl 59, and this program starts now.
Football! It is absolutely magical, and obviously, two days from now, we will be crowning a world champion. Will it be the back-to-back Super Bowl champion, Kansas City Chiefs, representing the AFC? Or will the Philadelphia Eagles behind Nick Sirianni and the boys win for a city that is known for brotherly love, eating of poop, and climbing of greased-up holes? Will the Philadelphia Eagles be celebrating all over the city? Or will the Kansas City Chiefs do something that no team has done in the modern era which is win three straight Lombardis.
It's a magical time. We're very lucky to be down here and the energy is palpable.
We are celebrating the sport. We are celebrating the league.
We are celebrating the year and we're celebrating breaking news as it happens. Congratulations to Ireland getting a home game next year and obviously we have we have got to be there.
And the toxic table is here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. Nine-year NFL vet Darius J.
Butler is here. All-time leading tackler for the Packers is here, A.J.
Hawk. 12-year Super Bowl champion A.Q.
Shipley is here. One half of the hammer.
Cowboys AP Tone is here. And I'll tell you what, you AP folks are certainly in the crosshairs right now.
We will talk to you. But joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, from the Ireland comp of the NFL, McQuaid.
Oh, it's McQuaid! It is McQuaid! Lads, what's the crack? How are we getting on? Lads, what's the crack? Hey, Ireland has an NFL game coming. You should be incredibly proud of yourself alongside the entire Pro Football Ireland crew.
What you have done to champion the league, champion the sport in your home country, magical. And what's going to happen whenever the NFL goes over there is they're going to want to go back.
Oh, yeah. Congratulations, McQuaid.
You've really done it this time. Hop, hop, hop, hop, hop, hop, hop.
It's a hell of a celebration, McQuaid. How do you guys feel? I mean, how many booms would you give in Ireland? Five? Yeah.
Six, probably. Six booms.
Six booms. I mean, I never thought, lads, thanks for having me on.
I never thought it's the other day in my life. I mean, I genuinely was saying out there, when you guys came to Dublin, I think that helped massively as well because it showed not just fans, but it showed the league that big events, big shows can happen and it can be controlled.
And was a great great day it's crack in dublin but what a day this is for the steelers the rooney family and for the nfl as a whole and i totally agree i think it'll set the standard internationally i think it'll be a party to end all parties yeah and i think um you know i appreciate you giving us a tiny sliver of credit i think everybody saw yeah Oh, they did. Hell of a crack.
Well, It's over there. Everybody's seeing the crock.
Crazy crock of a day. The hospitality, how everything's set up, too.
We live in Indianapolis. Indianapolis is set up to host things.
Dublin felt the same exact way. We could walk from everywhere to everywhere.
Legitimately, the way the city shut down for Georgia Tech taking on Florida State, I can't even fathom what it's going to be for an nfl game over there and we can't wait to see it the party to end all parties i mean ap must be buzzing you got to get over man 100 yeah we're going for sure right yeah tone's definitely going to be there oh okay i think one thing is really important as well and it's important to say it you got 32 teams in the league 31 other teams don't have the links to the island or links to a country like the Rooney family have so for for Dan the entire Rooney family and the history that they've had this is such an emotional but an important day for them and I just can't wait to see the standard that they're going to bring it to because I know already some of the things that they have in plan that they have planned in store it's just going to be epic guys it going to be unbelievable. And the Irish people are a people that will enjoy football.
Obviously, rugby's huge over there, and soccer's huge over there, and rugby sevens, I think, is gigantic over there. There's a lot of sports over there.
But them as a people, and this is not me just – it is. I'm painting with a broad brush here.
Irish people will love football if they see it. And do you agree with that? I think the more people that get introduced to the sport in Ireland, the more people that love it over there.
Number one in the world in rugby. So I'm going to take that to the Hill guys straight up.
We're a sport in Ireland. We love sport.
Gaelic football. I know you guys have featured hurling before on your top ten.
Yes, what a snog. Oh my god.
Hop, hop, hop, hop. Hop, hop, hop, hop, hop.
Yeah, it was great. It was great over there.
Quite the crack. Yeah, it was quite the crack.
Crazy crack. Every July, 82,300 people pack in the Crook Park for that.
And they're amateur sportsmen. They go to work on the Monday morning.
We love sport. We love the passion of it.
And, yes, I think more and more people are being connected to it. Like, my dad's like, oh, it's too slow.
You get into it. It's a bit of crack at the end of the day.
Yeah, it is a bit of a crack. Congratulations to the entire Pro Football Ireland crew.
Thank you, guys. You guys do a great work.
Thank you. Thank you McQueen.
Okay, let's talk about the Super Bowl that is taking place here in just a few days. We have a massive update from ESPN Bet.
Let's head over to the Hammer Don Cowboy AP Tone. Where are we at right now? Yeah, ESPN Bet is Let's head over to the Hammer.
Don Cowboy AP Tone.

Where are we at right now?

Yeah, ESPN Bet is the first sports book to make it a pick-em on Sunday

between the Chiefs and the Eagles, which basically means on the money line,

it is minus 110, minus 110.

There is no favorite currently right now at ESPN Bet,

and that kind of signifies exactly what we've been expressing all week long,

where we have no idea how this game is going to go. We are having a hard time picking which team is going to win.
It's because both teams are great and it's going to be an awesome chiefs are favored by one still. There is a spread minus one.
That's normally an indicator of where the money is potentially for the bet. They'll take it one way or the other.
But both being minus 110 means that the sports books have no idea. Yeah.
And other books are like even money minus 120 to the Chiefs.

It feels like that's the way it's going.

More and more Eagles money continues to pour in.

66% of the tickets are in the Eagles.

75% of the money is on the Eagles,

and a lot of the big bets coming in are on the Eagles so far.

So there's a chance that it might go the other way,

where Eagles eventually become the quote-unquote favorite.

But, yeah, right now it's a pick-em.

AJ, we were talking about this while we were in the creepy sprinter van. Yep.
On the way over here to the convention center. And we all had the same sentiment.
Literally every day I'm waking up with a new thought on who's going to win again. Yep.
Every hour. Yeah, bingo.
I think every time you think about it, there's a new way to look at it. And I even saw on GetUp, I think there's a couple people that have been on GetUp like yesterday that picked something yep and then today picked a different team this has been hard to figure out because you can see it going so many different directions and i think like uh aq what you say about this eagles roster yeah it's the most expensive roster in the nfl and when you look at that on paper they win almost everywhere but there is one guy yeah it's the.
It's Patrick Mahomes. It's hard to figure this out.
Could you

see the Eagles winning by 24, I guess,

with the way the team is built? You could see that.

But then on the other side, it's Patrick Mahomes.

They're like, well, they don't have nearly enough weapons.

It's like, well, I think they do. And it's like, I have

no idea which way the game's

going to go. It's literally been hour to hour in this

entire thing. Yeah, the more I watch on TV, the more I watch

Dano and different guys talk about it, I

start to change my mind. I don't know.
I was

leaning Chiefs early on a little bit.

I've gone back and forth. I don't know.

All by the end of this show i'll probably have a different opinion of what i had you know 30 minutes ago who what do you do you just got completely distracted talking about the big guy that's kind of his move he's a jump surprise he did yeah it was the whole thing that's kind of His move, you know, he almost just walked out. That's kind of his move.
He's a jump surprise. Yeah, it was the whole thing.
That's kind of his move. You know, he owns WWE.
He owns everything, right? We're doing WWE's debut on Netflix from the Intuit Dome. And me and Cole are talking directly to a camera that is two feet in front of us.
Literally, we are talking to the camera. Everybody in there knows we're talking to the camera.
Ari just walks his ass into the thing, maybe even got in the ring, took a couple bumps. He'll be joining us, and I guess whenever the fuck he wants, but probably in about 30 minutes or so.
Cannot wait to chat with him. With that being said, ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man who is from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, a guy who's an all-time great when it comes to spinning a football.

Quickest release in the history of ball.

Ladies and gentlemen, friend of the program.

When he speaks, there's no flubs.

Fucking send it.

Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Marino. Yeah!

Yeah!

Dan Marino!

Yeah!

Marino!

It's great to see you, Bison. God, it's good to see you.
Paesan, I like your notes. Let's make sure we're taking care of all this.
What's that? All right. You got to put this on.
Yeah. What's that, Dan? Couldn't hear a word you're talking about, Dan.
Hey, everybody. What's going on? Hey, it's Dan Maria.
Holy. Hell maria yeah hell yeah dan the man uh dan okay so you are here with nami the national alliance of mental illness tell me how you got involved and what is the goal here with nami so the goal is uh well first of all i got involved a couple years ago i got to know uh dan gillison the ceo and we talked about doing some of this stuff then.
And also Stay Healthy Zone, which is a partner of mine that I do stuff with. It's a digital wellness company, and they're going to do digital wellness for Nomni.
And Nomni's been around forever. Nomni's been, I think, 48 years.
It's probably on there or something. Yeah, I think it's the largest grassroots mental health organization in the country.
And the thing is, I think they want to just make awareness, awareness about it. Just be smart about your health.
And if something comes up, don't be afraid to ask somebody. If you have a problem, ask somebody.
If you ask your friend. And a lot of times as men and anybody, we just, you know, we don't do that.
And we just get along and try to get along and cause the problems. Is that crazy? 2025, I don't mean crazy in that way, but you get it.
In 2025, it feels like we know a lot more about the brain. And, like, we have a lot more empathy, I feel like, for people going through stuff than we used to.
It's been a quick evolution, I feel like, for society to kind of come around to it. Don't you agree? Yeah, I agree.
I agree. And it's, you know, it's something that's there.
It's not going away. And that's why I think NAMI is one of the places you could turn to.
And I just talked to, who was it? Oh, you know, just Zach Taylor. Or Zach Thomas.
Because Zach Thomas, you know, he played with Junior Seau. And to me, that whole thing is like, you know, Zach said to me, he's like, I thought he was always great.
He's funny, laughing, loves football. Lights up a room.
Lights up the room when he comes in. And he said, I never knew there was a problem.
You know, I would have tried to help him. And that's the thing.
Try to help the guys if they have a problem. And that was just an example.
It's a bad example because I love Junior. Junior was the best.
We all do, though. But that's what we're talking we're talking about junior but that's that's exactly kind of what this is agree i think a lot of us have a lot of friends that we've loved and we have no idea going through something very serious at the end of every show i say be a friend tell the friend something nice it might change their life because we've had friends i've had friends that anytime i've seen them positive everything and then they end up passing away from their own doing,

and it's like, should we have seen the signs,

or maybe we should have just asked, you know?

But then on the flip side, we hope we get to a point someday where people are feeling that way, they will ask people,

and I think that's why we're here.

That's what we're doing.

It's such a big deal.

I think that's a big deal.

So thank you for doing that, Dan.

Oh, no, that's cool.

That's baby Dan.

That's baby Dan.

Don't go.

Here's our guy, Dan Gillison, right there. He's the CEO of Nominee.
Shout out, Dan. Hey, thank you for making the world a better place, Dan.
Good suit, too. Thank you, Dan.
I like that pocket square, too. He's got the triple crown.
Yeah, it looks good. Triple crown there, Dan.
Good work, man. Okay, let's talk a little ball, shall we? Yeah, sure.
Miami Dolphins aren't helping anybody's morale. At all.
We got a guy named Gumpy back there.

I assume he thanked you immediately upon walking in.

He's from – there he is right there on the screen.

I don't know if you see him.

He's from British Columbia, Canada.

Loves the Dolphins.

Has his entire life.

This year we thought we were going to go.

Gump, didn't we think we were going to go this year?

Yeah, for sure.

Thought a playoff win was coming down the chute, but here we are 25 years since we've had one.

Jeez.

I know, man. I'm sorry.
That's all I can tell you. What do you think, Noah? You know what? I thought we had a very good football team this year until we start getting, you know, injuries, especially at the end of the year.
And, look, Tua is our quarterback. He's going to be our quarterback.
But we need to find a way to just keep him healthy, especially, you know, at the end of the year when you have to win games

to get into playoffs and to maybe get home field advantage

or just win playoff games.

And so that's, I think, really where the focus is going to be.

Tua's thing came out of nowhere there.

Yeah.

We saw him come out of nowhere.

Is that – how do we –

He's through a lurking, too.

Yeah, you guys were in it.

Lurking, lurking, lurking. Then he's no longer playing out of nowhere, and he finishes the season not playing.
Actually had sunglasses on one of the time. Yeah, hanging.
It looks so cool. But he had like a hip pointer.
Okay, so he should be good. You know, and it's just as far as throwing.
I mean, he'll be good in the future, but like for those two, three weeks, he was struggling with that. Feels like you're around the team a lot, right? Enough, yeah.
I'm around. Are you trying to get a little Pittsburgh in them, though, Dan? Yeah.
A little grit. They're saying the team's soft.
They're saying they're soft, Dan. The Yinzers.
We need more Yinzers. Amen.
You ain't never lie, brother. AJ's got a question for you.
When you look at this Super Bowl and you see Patrick Mahomes, Jalen Hurts, obviously, I guess, what do both these guys do? What have they done that impresses you? Start with Mahomes. Oh, that's easy.
This is easy because Mahomes may end up being the best quarterback ever. You never know because he's on a run right now and he's just amazing.
I don't know if he'll ever get to seven Super Bowls, but if he wins this one,'s already in the Hall of Fame. And what he does as an athlete, as far as how he throws the ball from different angles, and, you know, he really can't teach that.
You know, and he has anticipation, he has everything. But also, he's smart because he can run, but he never gets hurt, like, from running the ball because he knows where he's in on the field.
His awareness is there, and he's just a special player. Special player.

And then Jalen Hurts has been great too.

It's just he's a different type of player, right?

He's a guy that wants to run it a little bit more than Patrick Mahomes,

and he's an above-average thrower of the football in the pocket,

but when he's dangerous is when he gets out of the pocket.

That's when he can make the big play. So that's basically my scouting report on those two quarterbacks.

Can you still spin it?

Oh, yeah.

I'm sorry. when he's dangerous is when he gets out of the pocket.
That's when he can make the big play. So that's basically my scouting report on those two quarterbacks.
Can you still spin it? Oh, yeah. Yeah, from here to there.
Darn always. I mean, I throw a little bit, but not.
We saw that commercial. You threw the ball into Messi's boat? Yeah.
Yeah. That was a rocket.
That thing went about 150 yards. Which we still expect.
Thank God for video cameras. When people talk to you about your quickest release and everything like that, your accuracy, and then the yards you threw for, there's always the modern-day yards where people are like, there's offense now, the new rules are built for this.
It'll be like 2021, 2023 yardage, and then fucking Dan Marino slides.. Back in old school football, Dan Marino's in there for yardage and everything like that.
Obviously, you have to have a team buy-in for you to play that way, but you have to have an ability for people to debunk how football was then at that time. My old man says that you worked that with your dad every day of your life.
Almost like an obsession almost. Trying, with like trying to work on your release.
And the other thing I did, which, you know, I tell all young quarterbacks and even kids, high school kids, college kids, is the jump rope. My dad made me jump rope from the time I was little because it keeps you, your mind and your feet on the same rhythm in a small area, which a small area is a pocket.
To me, my dad was a Teamster truck driver, and I thought that was genius. That's genius, really.
Absolutely. Hey, the Teamsters got a lot of good ideas.
Oh, yeah, they do. People, too.
Don't mess with them. Especially the truck drivers.
Something fall off the back of that truck? That's awesome. There were some things that fall off the back of the truck.
Yeah, yeah. That's what happened.
My dad was a truck driver as well, so he's had some genius ideas. I didn't even think about jump rope.
That seems genius. Were we doing this one? Oh, yeah, I could do that.
You're doing all this shit. Yeah, but now I can't do anything.
My legs are gone. But when I was playing during my years playing during my years playing, I did that all the time.
D-Bot, Miami Dolphins, diehard fan. Yes, South Florida kid.
Both parents from Carroll City. So, right behind old Joe Robbie Stadium.
So, appreciate everything you did, obviously. What's your thoughts on, we had the honors last night, NFL honors.
Two great, deserving quarterbacks, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. What's your thoughts on MVP this year? Well, I think both of them could have won just as easily.
You know, I mean, Lamar Jackson had a great year.

Awesome.

But they didn't really advance, you know.

And maybe it's because Josh got a little closer, I think, you know.

And he really takes over games, too, just like, you know, Lamar does.

I just think it was his year because how he was running football and critical situations, the playoff games where he came from behind winning those games. Those are the kind of times when you look at a guy and say, okay, yeah, he's the MVP.
I would have voted for either one of them. They both deserve it.
Do you guys get a vote? No, no. They don't care about you.
They only care about this guy. He's just so easy.
You get a vote? He got a vote. Yeah, man.
I got to call somebody up. This is bullshit.
I agree, Dan. I agree.
Speaking about Josh, though, there was a lot of talk after this last loss to the Chiefs, another loss to the Chiefs, another loss to Patrick Holmes. People said they started feeling bad for Josh Allen.
Is he ever going to get the big one? What is your take on that since you were an unbelievable all-time great quarterback? What's your take on Josh and getting to the big one? So I think Josh Allen, if you talk to him, he's extremely disappointed. He'll think about losing that playoff game and having his chance but also he's you know he he's a tough dude he's mentally tough he don't miss games he's been playing at a high level for five six years now so he i think he feels like he'll get back and get over that hump you know but then the truth of the matter is i went in the second year and i never got back but i but i got close just like him a lot times.
So he'll deal with it. He'll be fine.
He'll come out of that. But he will think about that all offseason.
And there's a lot of times you do that. I did it too.
Rest of your life probably. Yeah.
Some games. Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, that's a competitor. That's what high-end athletes have to deal with.
You just talked about him being mentally tough and not missing a lot of games. How important is it for the quarterback to be like the toughest dude on your team? Legitimately.
It's got to be legit tough, but also mentally tough. And then being able to deal with all the other players and making them tough with you and making the players around you better.
And he does that. And Mahomes definitely does that.
But you quarterbacks are kind of, you know... The guys.
Like your whole life. Your whole life.
You guys are like legit. Even more so now than ever before.
Because the amount of money. When I was young, my dad was a truck driver.
I was held up like, you know. No, but I'm saying like the quarterbacks though nowadays.
These kids in high school are getting paid to go to transfer to academies. And in college, they're being paid.
It's like our team goes as you go, and these kids are like teenagers getting treated like that. The ability to remain tough and a humble quarterback is going to be difficult, but I think it's a necessity for the position.
There's no doubt. Yeah, being humble and being tough, and also with all the money they're going to get given, pretty much, you know, while they're going through college, it can make them, like you said, Pittsburgh can make them soft a little bit.
So you've got to have that guy that's mentally tough, that's going to be able to doesn't matter what the money is or what it, you know, all that, that I want to play. I want to be the best person I can be for this football team.
It's hard to find. That's like the most important thing, I think, nowadays, when you're finding a guy like, hey, do you love ball or not? Like, I think that is a big deal.
Because these kids are being set up to be soft. You know, not their fault.
Not their fault. Never want to blame them for it.
Could you get a million dollars when you were 15 or 16? I probably could have. Yeah, I would have taken it.
We all would have. Could you imagine what you would have became? I mean, it's could have been a monster.
I mean, it's unbelievable. Connor has a question for you.
Yeah, Dan, yesterday also the Hall of Fame class was announced, and obviously you're a Hall of Famer, and there's a lot of discourse. Only four guys went in.
No Adam Vinatieri, who we all thought, obviously, first ballot Hall of Famer. Yeah, sounds like you do too, even though he's a kicker, and that's kind of the knock on him, even though, you know, he's won damn near more than anybody.
Also, no no eli manning what do you think about kind of the state of the hall of fame right now and what is kind of the standard you would say is to get into the hall of fame because it's kind of blurred almost at this point because you know vinnie and eli they both have the moments they have the rings but still they're not you know getting in on their first ballot try yeah i mean that's that's the difficult thing because like chris carter i thought chris carter would go in on the first ballot it took him six years so i'm not in on the voting and how they vote and and what the decisions are made but i know that uh we've been having a lot of i don't know this for a fact but i know we've been having a lot of classes with seven people in them right for about the last 10 years and then we had one there was you know they were making up. Get back.
Yeah. Right.
And so maybe they're just kind of, you know, water it down a little bit and let's not have as many guys. But whoever is making that decision is probably on the committee.
Sure. You know.
See, but now there's four this year. Right.
So that means there's going to be a backup. Yeah.
Next year and next year's glasses. Yeah.
Like they're talking about Eli. It's like, is Eli going to get in next year? Who knows because of Drew Brees.
Yeah. And let alone Yonda.
Yeah. That's tough.
Frank Gore's next year. Larry Fitz.
Do you guys do like Hall of Fame dinners and texts? No, I mean, no. Dinners? Yeah, when we go to the Hall of Fame, we'll have dinner.
Yeah, but what do you mean texts? I don't know if you guys just grew up. I just, I mean, I talked to Ronnie Lott two days ago.
So, yeah, we'd text each other. A little gold jacket text.
No big deal. Yeah, that's a big Hall of Famer right there.
Yeah, well, you are as well, Daniel. You are as well.
Obviously, you broke down both quarterbacks. What's the story from this game that maybe, because we've talked about this now.
Okay. 1,000 times.
Yep. Okay? We've talked about every fucking angle you could possibly have for this thing, Dan.
So is there anything that you think hasn't been talked about or that you're thinking about whenever you're trying to figure out? So did you talk about how you keep Patrick Holmes on the sideline and you run the football? You've already talked about that. Oh, man.
Give me some other examples. Stop and Saquon! That part is huge.
Because that's what they're going to try to do. They're going to try to run the football and keep Patrick on the sidelines.
That's what I would do if I was the head coach. Third down? Red zone? Yeah, third down, red zone.
Third down is important always, no matter what game it is. Third down.
And scoring in the red zone. If Philadelphia, instead of getting field goals, they get touchdowns, putting a little more pressure on Patrick.
How do you feel about the field goals? What other angle? Special teams, maybe, Dan. Might come down to special teams.
Jake Elliott's missed a couple kicks. He's obviously a Philadelphia Eagles.
He's been great in the past. Bucker seemingly never misses in big games.
They go for it a ton. The Eagles on fourth down.
Always go for it. Field position.
Yeah, those are an angle. Yep.
And then Taylor Swift's going to be there. Taylor Swift, that's an angle right there.
That is an angle. That's true.
And how many times, so here's an angle. How many times are we going to see here, see her on TV? What do you think? Over under four and a half.
Four and a half times on TV? Yeah, I think. I'd say more like 300.
Okay. Over.
Travis is about to have a big game. Yeah.
That's what it sounds like you're saying there. Get Travis the rock, get him in the paint.
Yeah, what about that? Like Travis Kelsey, obviously people throughout the season talk about his stats and then in the playoffs he has his best game. Are there certain players that are just like that where when the lights come on, you know, they just play their best? There are, and he's one of them.
You know, he's going to be in the Hall of Fame for sure. Eventually, with the way it's going, he might not be a first batter.
But he's those kind of – I know. He's the kind of player that steps up.
And he might have been injured a little bit or whatever, but big game, steps up all the time. And that's what you've got to love to be in this situation.
He's a hooper out there. It's kind of the conversation that we had with Fred Warner, who was talking about playing against Travis because they talk about these Travis routes where who knows what's on the actual call sheet for Travis.
So, yeah, they just have like a – did you have anybody like that? Yeah, there was – well, I mean, I felt like Clayton and Duper would do that a little bit if they felt, you know, because I'd try to read coverages with them and they would read the coverage. You all have see the same thing same thing we always talk about it would always talk about it and then so we had that kind of relationship and then keith jackson keith jackson was another one that was like that you know the tight end from how come everybody doesn't do that what is that oh i think they do do it it's just a matter of the players and your i guess not only awareness in in space space, the space of a secondary, but also instincts.
You know, so you got to, certain guys have that and certain guys don't. I mean, it's just, you know, certain guys you're telling them to run down here and make a right and they just run right down there and make a right.
Sometimes you shouldn't. Sometimes you go down there and turn around.
Sit down. Sit down, turn it up.
Mark Clayton was one of those guys guys you talk about. It's always somebody that pops up on a list from Marino's era.
He was one of those guys we talk about, Saquon. His touchdowns, average distance of his touchdowns, over 30 yards.
I think Mark Clayton may have been like third on that list. Yes.
Yeah. Big time.
Oh, yeah, big time player. Yeah, he's awesome, man.
I love Mark. And he's another one I thought should be, you know, to get in the Hall of Fame.
You know, because the numbers are different. No, you had a couple guys from your area, Eric Allen and Sterling Sharp.
Yes. Going this year.
What's your thoughts on those guys finally getting in? It's great. I mean, it's the biggest, you know, besides your kids or whatever, I mean, that's the biggest day of your life and for your family's life is to get in the Hall of Fame because there's only so many guys that get in,

and that's it.

That's forever and ever.

So that's, you know, my thoughts are I'm so happy for them,

and they're going to enjoy it and enjoy that day.

There's levels to this shit, too.

The Hall of Famers, you know, like there's guys that make it in the NFL.

Then there's, like, the All-Pros.

Then there's the MVPs.

Then there's the Hall of Famers. That's forever.
We appreciate all the Hall of Famers for everything they've done for this league. Who are you picking to win? Kansas City.
Wow. That was very quick.
Yeah. Did you waffle it all? Have you waffled it all since it? No, I did.
Yeah, well, I thought I want Philly to win just because I don't want to see Kansas City win. And a lot of Italians over there.
Yeah, a lot of Italians. Pennsylvania, I'm Pennsylvania.
So, yes, I want Philly to win, but I think Kansas City's going to win. Just because they do.
Exactly. And Patrick Mahomes, number 15, he's pretty good.
The guy. He is.
Good player. Will they ever be able to win in Miami? Legit.
Two main distractions in Miami? Yeah, no, no. It's not the distractions.

It's just, yeah, we'll get there.

We'll get there.

What about the narrative of that they can't win in the cold?

As a guy who grew up in Pittsburgh and lived in Pittsburgh,

how much of that actually plays in when it's like, you know,

you've been in Miami for a long time?

Because, I mean, they have to play in New England late in the season

and, you know, in New York.

Like, is that a thing or is that mostly, you know,

just a media-driven narrative? No, I think it is a narrative that's there because you got to change the narrative if if you want someone to stop talking about it and we haven't done that really I mean even when I played you know we'd always try to get home field advantage and so you don't have to go to Buffalo you don't have to go you know to Pittsburgh or Kansas City when it's you know below zero because we're not used to playing in that stuff. So that's the narrative is that we've got to win more games and get home field advantage.
Yeah, you feel like you're soft now because you're in my time in Miami? I got really soft, especially when I retired. I'm soft now.
How's the golf game? Pretty good. Yeah? Yeah, it's okay.
I'm like an 8 handicap. Damn! You're rolling some putts, it sounds like.
I make some putts. Where do you live now, full-time down in Florida? Fort Lauderdale.
Fort Lauderdale? Fort Lauderdale. Hockey State.
Yeah, we're in hockey town. And I live not far from that arena.
It's fun to go watch those games. Yeah, the Panthers.
You grew up a Penns fan? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Mario Lemieux, obviously. You know, he's a peer, but then Pierre LaRouche.
Do you remember that? Yes, I remember Pierre LaRouche. That's my guy.
He was an old, old fan. Mario Lemieux is a peer.
Yes, yes. That's awesome.
You know it, man. No, I did know what you meant.
No flubs. Dan Marino.
Yeah, but I, you know. Right.
Fucking said it. That's good.
No flogs. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, Hall of Famer, MVP, Yinzer legend, Dolphin hero, Dan Marino.
Yeah. Thank you, dude.
I like that Yinzer legend. Yeah, you are.
Yes, man. You are.
Always will be, too. Thanks, brother.
Hey, thank you. It's great being on.
Thank you, guys. Thank you, man.
Thank you, guys. Thank you, Dan.
Appreciate you, man. Oh, it's okay.
Thanks. Awesome.
Thank you very much. Thank you.
It was an honor. Thank you, Dan.
Hey, you look good, Dan. Yeah.
Still got it. Still got it.
Still bringing it. Still got it, Dan-O.
Still bringing it. Oh, shit.
Coach Patricia. Hey, Coach.
Thanks a lot. Hell yeah.
Hey, Coach. Hey, what a season.
A lot of podcasts, a lot of media, and also it looks like a lot of fitness. You look good, Coach.
How are you feeling? I appreciate it. That's probably the best intro I got right there.
Oh, shit. Like, I think that's great.
No, we're surprised. It's a good thing, not a bad thing.
How are you doing? I'm great.

I'm great.

Yeah, so I have excellent media training, obviously, coming from Bill at New England.

You know, we practiced a lot of, you know, so this is a whole new world for me this year.

It's been a lot of fun.

Roastmaster just walked by.

Incredible work, Jeff.

Honestly, you've just been assassinating people with your words.

Hey, the roasts have been amazing.

What is this, an ugly lives matter?

Right, Andrew?

That's right. Thank you.
Thank right. I love you guys.
Pat, you're the king. What is this, an ugly lives matter? That's good.
Jeff, you're the man. That was fucking sweet.
How many times do you think he's used that? Sorry, Coach. Sorry, Coach.
Okay, so had a show with Coach, did some breakdown with NFL Films.

What is the thought?

Are we getting back into coaching?

Are we doing media?

What is the plan for Matt Patricia?

Yeah, we're having a lot of fun doing media this week.

So it's been great.

You know, I can't get on your show, but I'm on this side.

No, I'm just kidding.

No.

Media has been great.

It's been a lot of fun, but we'll see. We'll see what happens here in the next couple weeks.
Okay, we would like to have you next year if you're doing media again. I'm in.
I'm on. Let's go.
We had no idea you were going to be doing media this year, and then whenever we saw you over things, we were excited for you and your big-ass brain. Are we still drawing up plays? Are we still ticonderoguing? Have we let go of some of the old ways for this new life? What is new in your life? We're always studying.
We're always coming up with different things. The pencil is on hiatus right now.
What are you doing? Are you running 10 miles a day? You look unbelievable. I appreciate it.
No, a lot of, you know what? Just as coaches, you know, we wake up early and nothing to do, so I work out. Boxing three days a week, doing a lot of that, which is fun.
Yeah, boxing was fun. I used to do it when I was a little kid, until I got hit.
And those people know how to hit really hard, and I had headgear, and I was like, I think I need a new sport. This is not good.
Virtual reality boxing, real deal. Yeah, you know what's great about that? Horrible to watch after you're done.
Like, your buddy's filming you, and you're like, I better never get in a fight, because I'm going to get my ass kicked. This is not good.
No, you've got to throw throw a big heavy right. That's the game in the virtual reality.
You've got to throw a heavy right. Coach, you look amazing.
Appreciate it. What are your thoughts on the game? Yeah, I like Philly.
Wow. I think, you know, defensive guy.
You were there, weren't you? I was. I was.
So I just like what they've done this year, and I think it's going to be a great game. Obviously, it's really hard to bet against Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, but I'll go with this stat.
You know, two teams in the Super Bowl that have had the number one defense and the number one rusher in the league. Philadelphia, we'll see how they do.
But the other one was the 92 Cowboys. So I've got to go defense.
Okay, I love that. AJ, you got a question for Coach? Yeah, what is Philly going to have to do to win the game? Like, obviously not turn the ball over all of that.
But does Saquon have to have a monster day? Does Jalen Hurts have to be great? Like, what has to happen? Yeah, because Spags

is going to try to stop Saquon, right?

You got it, right? That's the number one thing. Spags will

take him away. He'll use some of his blitz packages

to kind of, you know, confuse the run game.

He's got the run blitzes and then probably

crowd the line of scrimmage for the passing game and make Jalen's

eyes come down. But I think the biggest

thing for Philly, you know, playing against

Mahomes is you got to defend the first

play, not the second play. Don't let him out.

Don't let him create. You know, Kansas City's just

I'm sorry. eyes come down.
But I think the biggest thing for Philly, you know, playing against Mahomes is you got to defend the first play, not the second play. Don't let them out.
Don't let them create. You know, Kansas City's just, when you really look at them and why, you know, so many people are like, how are these guys winning? They're just winning in a different way.
You know, the early turnovers in the game, they just overcome them. But when you take a look at third down, they're tops in the league.
When you take a look at the two-minute drives and the calmness that, you know, they go down and just methodically score, you know, those are the areas you really got to focus on if you want to stop them. So I think Philly will do a good job on third down.
I think that can shorten some of the drives that they have, and then those situational plays will come up big. Dee Bud has the last question for you.
Yeah, those got to have it moments, flavor of the week. I feel like Philly, and especially when you get in the rear there, you never know what they're going to pull out of their ass.
What is it like preparing for KC in that rear area compared, I guess, to the rest of the league? Yeah, you know, and Andy Reid obviously does a great job down there, and his staff, they've got that really cool kind of Friday collaboration they do where they get those special plays that they look up and, you know, get that buy-in. But, you know, Andy coming from that West Coast background, you know, we're always talking about defensively flat to the left, offensively flat to the right.
But the thing that Patrick Mahomes has done is he's been able to flip all that.

So now you've got those two kind of flats either side.

You're trying to defend in the guy-to-have-it situations.

So that makes it really difficult.

But, again, the extended plays or even just let Patrick run, you can't do that.

You've got to make sure you keep him in, and you've got to get Kelsey.

He's going to be the guy.

All right, well, keep us updated on what you're doing.

I appreciate it. It's so good to see you guys.

You guys are the best.

See you, Coach. We appreciate you, Coach.
Thanks so much. Ladies and gentlemen, Matt Patricia.
Take care, guys. Thank you.
He knew Pete Carroll was going to throw that ball. That's right.
Uh-huh. Yes, he did.
People still wondering why they didn't give the ball to Marshall Lynch. Matt Patricia said, I knew they weren't.
Practice it. That's what we were ready for.
It's all in the dark. All right, ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, without further ado,

I think this man runs the world.

Yeah, pretty much.

Every company that we do

work with, he's in charge.

Ladies and gentlemen, the man

who was the inspo for

the character Ari Gold, Ari Emanuel.

Yay!

Ari!

Oh, yeah. Shout out.
They're titles, Ari. Learn the business.
Jesus. How was dinner? Phenomenal.
Yeah. Dinner was good.
Learn the business. Yeah.
All right. You guys have arrived here.
Jesus. Look at this.
We're the real deal, Ari. You guys are real now.
What Ari's saying there about dinner is obviously we did not plan anything for all the boys. We cared about you guys but didn't plan anything.
Well, we got a lot going on, Ari, a lot going on. So, you know, table for 20, Super Bowl week in New Orleans is not always easy.
So I call Ari. I say, hey, do you know anybody down here? And he goes, ah, and he hangs up on me.
Then I'm in a group text all of a sudden with a bunch of people I don't know. And this person will take care of it.
So then I call you, and I say, I'm not doing that. I've never met any of these people.
And then you chew me out for that. And then all of a sudden we got dinner at Doris Metropolitan.
What a place. I think he thought I was going to make the reservation.
I'm like, what? No, not you. I wanted you to give me the connection to call said person.
It got taken care of. Yeah, it was awesome.
It was great. A lady named Nicole on your team took care of this.
We had great food. So let's talk about your life.
Okay. So we always just assume you're Ari Gold.
Now, after meeting you a little bit more, I think we are more in that belief. Yeah, sure.
That you are Ari Gold. 15 minutes.
Yeah, but we hear you. We hear you.
They hear you. That's all it takes.
We hear the phone calls. They hear you as well.
You have been an agent your whole life, and then now you just buy everything as an agent still? Like, how would you describe who you are to somebody? So in 95, I was an agent for four years approximately. Before 95, I started the company Endeavor.
Had an idea of what I wanted to do. We're now in 2025.
Worked out. Yeah.
Okay, so Endeavor is an agency? Endeavor is an agency.

It's a marketing company.

It's a licensing company.

It's a lot of things.

Okay, and is Endeavor the head or is now TKO the head?

So we had Endeavor.

Through Endeavor, we bought a bunch of companies.

One of them was UFC.

Congratulations.

Thank you very much.

Goodbye, goodbye.

Thank you very much.

At the time, even you were saying like. Me? Yeah, you.
No. That's not true.
We're believers. That dude's overspent.
No, not us. We would never say that.
It's a global business. We're overspenders.
And then, you know, we made the television deal, and then we took UFC and we merged it with the WWE. And when did you decide you were going to just start buying up the sports conglomerates? Because I think in the entertainment world, you entertainment suits kind of stay in your world.
And then the sports suits kind of stay in their world. Feels like you have legitimately, purposefully tried to get into the sports world.
And I think it's because you're a sports fan. Love sports.
I think that is a real deal. No, but I saw kind of what was going on in that you had the streamers,

you had where cable and where the broadcast business was,

and if they wanted to get in the advertising business,

the only way to really do it in a significant way was being in the sports business.

And so it's just part of the ecosystem of entertainment sports, and so we moved into sports also.

And you enjoy your time in sports thus far? Love it. What have the business of sport, maybe, that's different than the entertainment business? More money.
In the sports world? Yeah. I think you've found a pretty good amount of money in your world.
You could, you know, you make a lot of money, you used to make a lot of money in the television movie business by packaging stuff. Packaging TV shows.
The economics were different. And the movie business.
When we moved into the sports world, we could own the asset as opposed to representing the asset. And so when you own an asset, you get all the money.
That's pretty nice. And that's better.

That's more.

That sound business, as you are going to go down, is I think greatest business.

You're going to be the greatest businessman of all time?

Is that what they're going to say about you?

Not even close.

Oh, shut up.

You own everything.

I don't know how that would work.

I don't know.

There's a lot of people in tech that are pretty good.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right.

That's a whole different world.

Tech business has massive platforms. Those are some dogs.
Yeah, those are some dogs. Some dogs business-wise over there.
And the boys have a lot of questions, but let's talk about this. No, hold on one second.
Did any of you guys see the teaser? Yeah. Principal P? He immediately turned into a movie star.
He kind of calls me all the time. What do you think? How are you thinking about it?

That I got you to do that was pretty good.

Yes. Okay.
Come on now.

I put the old Ari Gold fucking...

So you are lucky

that we all grew up watching Entourage.

So if you look at our show,

it is... It's your Entourage.

Not Entourage. Everybody works, though.

We're in the follow-up to Entourage as opposed to the first season. We're in when everybody has jobs and everybody's doing everything.
But doing shit with your friends, like watching Entourage, like that is possible. Okay, we want to do that.
But Ari Gold was by far the greatest character in that show. Yes.
And like the way the business got done and the handled. And then the loyalty, you know, at the very end and like the compassion and everything like that.
Ari Gold was by far. So as I start hearing these rumblings of you being the one that they're at, and I got the first chance to get a meeting with you called Nick Khan.
Nick Khan has to call me now. Nick Khan is president of WWE, so he has to call people for him now, you know, because he does it.
So Nick calls me. He goes, hey, yep, you got to go meet Ari Emanuel Super Bowl week.
This was last year. Yeah.
Super Bowl week last year. Is that when we met? Vegas, yes.
Wow. I believe it was last year.
And Nick's like, hey, Ari Emanuel wants to meet you. When's that possible? And I'm like, I'm leaving on Friday.
They're like, well, we'll do it on Friday then. He's like, perfect.
And I just start thinking. I think I tell the boys, I'm like, I'm going to meet Ari Gold.
I'm going to meet Ari Gold. Then I walk into that room, and you're sitting there, and then you start talking, and it's like, this is fucking awesome.
This is the guy I've been waiting for. I've been waiting for somebody to get Vince from the Mentos commercial into being the biggest star on earth.
That's like an actual agent, like an actual business person. I have massive respect for your business acumen and the way you view things, which is why whenever you pitch something to be like a commercial for the NFL for Super Bowl, my immediate reaction is no.

And normally that would be a forever no.

Just won't let you know that.

Nah, get the hell out of my face.

But then if you continue to say like, hey, you should do this, and then Nick was doing

the same thing, it's like, all right, let's do it.

I want to let you know.

Thank you.

But you liked it, right?

I enjoyed it so much.

I had so much fun.

I'm going to tell you right now, Pete Berg said he's a natural. Okay.
Funny as F. Well, who's Peter Berg? He did Friday Night Lights.
Okay. He's my best friend.
Lone survivor, college roommate. Yep.
Yeah. And then he just did American Primeval.
Really good. Have you guys seen that? Yes.
Incredible. Unbelievable.
And he's about to do another movie called Mosquito Bow with the same guy that wrote Friday Night Lights, Buzz Bissinger, Brian Grazier producing, who produced Friday Night Lights. He's going to be in it.
What? What? Seriously? You're going to be in a movie? Yes, he is. He's going to be a sergeant in it.
You're going to be in a movie? True story. He didn't tell us this.
True story. World War II.
We don't know if this is happening. No, no, no.
This is happening. This is definitely happening.
We don't know if this is happening. He's already called me.
I'm training. I got my friend.
Father was a sergeant. Hey, listen.
My friend from high school. Yeah.
But with that being said, as Ari knows, there's a lot of business that needs to be seen. He's definitely doing it.
Going to be a movie star. Movie star.
Holy shit. That guy's a big actor.
And when you see the commercial, that character could be a movie. Okay.
I'm curious. I like that, too.
Ted Lasso. Yeah, Ted Lasso has talent, though.
That's a whole different animal. I will say, first time ever acting.
Peter Berg, obviously I knew who he was. I just asked you to explain to people who he was.
So cool, so nice. Has reached out to me because he knew how self-conscious I was about it all.
Because, boy, that could go really bad. Yeah, sure.
Just being an actor, everybody could see a bad actor. You know? That's why we respect John Cena so much.
Big go. Because John Cena is such a good actor.
And Dwayne. And rock.
Good actor. There's a lot of people that aren't.
You know, that aren't. Sure.
That go out there and do bad. Natural.
Yeah, well, they just had me be an asshole. That's an easy thing to do.
AJ has a question for you, Ari. Yeah, you seem like you do everything.
You own everything. Is there anything that you could tell us that you want to get into that maybe you haven't dipped your toe into yet in the business world, sports, whatever it may be? Well, we're starting to talk about boxing.
Okay. And so we're going to...
With Dana? With Dana. Dana's been trying.
He's been talking about doing boxing for a long time, right? We're kind of looking at that right now. Can you revive boxing? Where is boxing right now, I guess, compared to maybe 20 years ago? Well, I think he got the Ali Act that I think hurt it.
Hopefully, who knows what's going to happen with the Ali Act. And then Dana's got a plan for boxing.
We'll see. You know, there's a lot of work, a lot of wood that's got to be chopped there.
But we're looking at it pretty seriously. Hey, that would make sense with the TKO group.
Obviously. Wrestling, fighting, boxing in there.
Yeah. And I don't know, how much is there a collaboration between those two companies with you, or are they just operating? You know, the back office, we saved a lot of money and kind of got more efficient.
You know, there has been UFC fighters, as we know, that have gone to the WWE.

Definitely.

And there's been some WWE people that have fought in the UFC.

But that's not the norm.

How about business-wise, though?

Well, when we go out and, you know, we make sponsorship deals or site fees in different countries and different states, all that stuff, yes.

Okay, because the boxing world, Nick Khan, the president of WWE. Yes.
Dog, obviously. I think he grew up in Vegas.
Yes. He loves boxing.
He started in, yeah. Like, he loves boxing.
And Dana does too, right? Yeah. Dana started out in boxing.
Bingo, that could be like a real passion project, plus something that could save a sport. D-Bot has a question for you, Ari.
Yeah, from boxing to the WWE, heard some negotiation stories about that. But how has the Netflix era been so far? It's early on, but any surprises, anything surprises you? They're incredible partners.
Bella there has been incredible. Ted Sarandos has been incredible.
Show's performing. So we are thrilled.
And I think they're happy. The numbers are up really good.
So all good. How's that go? How do you end up with Netflix? Because I assume there's other streaming platforms, just like in the NFL.
Prime's getting involved in this entire thing. We assume it's only a matter of time before Google maybe does a little bit more with YouTube.
They have a lot of money. They could probably get into it.
X is going to start streaming things. How does Netflix become the one that the WWE goes with? So I had a breakfast with Bella.
Started talking about it. Who's Bella? She runs all of content and programming underneath Ted Sarandos at Netflix.
Hey, Bella, you're doing a great job. Bella, you're doing a great job.
We here at the Pat McPherson love what you've done. We did a presentation to her, and then all of a sudden, it was first started talking about NXT, actually, and then it just immediately moved to Raw.
And over Christmas a year and a half ago, or whatever, we're on a Zoom. It's all approved.
We have to have a conversation with Ted Sarandos. He's in London seeing Stranger Things play.
We get on the Zoom, Shapiro and I, right before Christmas and the Christmas holiday. He's there with his CFO.
It all gets done. We hang up the phone.
We do a jig. Yeah, absolutely.
You're on Mark Shapiro. That's a huge deal.
Yeah. And it's changing the future for shows like this.
Oh, yeah. And for other shows.
How much of that do you, because you're an old school agent. Okay? I'm old school.
You are old school. You've been around a long time.
We watch a whole show about you. You're 100.
Inspo. Yeah, you're 100 years old.
You're in great shape. 64.
Okay. Well, you look like, hey.
Okay. Great shape.
Hey. Hey.
Put her there. Because I'm going to call from this asshole.
Cold tub. Hot tub.
Infrared sauna. Wow.
Red light. Yeah, sorry, red light.
He's got the ball. You know, the ball to roll on the muscles? Oh, really? Roll out the cramps? R.T.
Ben. You know, I said to him, if he's going to be a movie star, you got to get in a little shake.
Okay. I'm comfortable.
You know, I'm comfortable. But there is reasons to do things, and that would certainly be the case.
But, like, you've had to adapt now, right? And the streaming deal is a massive deal for the future, has also been a part of the past. What do you see in the future? All these platforms are just going to continue to just help? Well, you know, you have linear falling off pretty.
Still exists. Still exists.
It's not going away. And, you know, you had the NFL made a 10-year deal.
NBA made it a deal. We started it making a broadcast linear deal plus streaming.
And I think that will be kind of the norm of it all. But the original premise in 95 was there's going to be a significant amount of distribution.
And content is going to be limited. The things that create content, you guys, the NFL, the NBA, us.
WWE, UFC. Therefore, the value of those things are going to be more valuable with infinite, it's just supply and demand.
And that, I think, bodes well for people that create content. UFC, WWE, bull riding, all the things that we're doing, boxing, et cetera.
So I'm feeling good. Yeah, it's content.

You guys should be feeling good.

We are.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, don't you worry about that, buddy.

You get that $5 billion deal done with the Netflix,

and it's like, well, WWE just did a $5 billion deal.

The NFL just did at least a billion dollar deal.

We're connected to all parties.

We are also live.

Yes. That is great.
Every day. Thank you, Ari.
Thank you, Ari. Thank you for getting into sports, Ari.
We appreciate you bringing the brain over there. Connor has a question for you.
Yeah, speaking of sports, and you mentioned the NBA there, why do you think kind of the NBA and the NHL, MLB is kind of a different story, but those two in particular haven't seen the growth and success that the NFL has over the past few years. You mean on ratings or on economics? Yeah, on ratings, just on ratings.
Because the NBA on digital, like we talk about all the time, the clubs do well. You have 82 games.
And so what's important, you know, kind of in that series? And I think Adam did a great job with the early playoff concept that he had. You have 164 games in baseball.
Go Cubs. You know, so I think that's the hard part of it.
But there, you know, I think once people get comfortable and, you know, you also had the local stations, the RSN once the Fox deal has problems, so they're cleaning that up. On the local markets, it's very good.
Are they going to go direct the teams or not? So you've got to look at the aggregate of the rating system, not just the national numbers. How about the NBA? Let's expand on that a little bit.
Luka Doncic is now a Laker. Yes.
Yeah, you love the Lakers. I'm a Bulls fan and a Lakers fan.
Come on. That's bullshit.
I love that. Shut up.
Who's talking to you? That sounds like a little bit of bullshite, but with that being said, can you say that here? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
I negotiated the deal. You can say those words.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There like a little bit of bullshite, but with that being said, you're one of...
Can you say that here? Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah, I negotiated the deal.

You can say those words.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, there is a little bit.

I hear a lot of people...

In my family, if you couldn't use a four-letter word, there was no conversation.

In my family as well.

That is a lot of things in a lot of people's convos, especially on the internet, so it's kind of an archaic model not to say words like shit, which are completely A-OK, everywhere else, but somehow not on TV in the afternoon. Whatever the case, people are upset about that.
Negotiate it into your deal. That is, just go ahead and do that.
But the NBA, this felt like a work, didn't it? This felt like a work with Luka going to the Los Angeles Lakers. Everybody feeling the same way about it.
Shout out to Anthony Davis and Kyrie. We think you're a great basketball team, honestly.
I think you don't deserve that. But Lucas, 25, the future of the league.
And he somehow just gets traded to Los Angeles. And then they get Mark Williams after that.
I mean, unbelievable. So you're very pumped as a Lakers fan.
What about for the NBA as a whole? I think it's great. I think everybody was nervous about the trade deadline.
You can't make any moves. This trade deadline was insane.
Like, everybody was flying around. Rumors all the time.
Everybody was paying attention to it. I think it's incredible for the sport.
Kevin Durant allegedly not happy. Not happy.
Not happy about his thing. Only the Bulls traded to get their pick back that they traded.
Yeah. Why don't you buy the team, bud? It's a terrible franchise.
That's terrible. That city sucks right now.
Jeez. Well, they used to be great when there was a great mayor there.
Oh, I mean like. There you go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good family, good family.
So I want to ask you a question. So Elimination Chamber, March 1st.
Toronto. I think there's some pretty good things going to happen there.
Do you think so? Oh, I do. Wow, what, are you in the writer's room now? What is this guy? What is this guy? What is this guy? How involved in all these businesses are you? You're updated every single day? I'm in them.
I'm not in them, like, I don't pick the fights and I don't pick what's going on at the WWE, but on the business side, yeah. But I just hear things.
Okay, so we talk to football people. A 73-year-old just got hired back again as a head coach.
Bill Belichick just went to college. Chuck Pagano, our guy, just went back on a team after saying he wasn't going to do that ever again.
Some people in the football world are addicted to football. It's like, you are always going to be in business.
You just feel like you're always trying to figure out a business, trying to figure out a plan, trying to conquer a business, conquer a strategy. Is that how you feel like you're always going to be? You know, here's what I would say.
Could you ever take time off? Here's what I would say. People say, oh, you work out.
I only want to be healthy. I don't want to live forever.
And I only want to work if I'm still curious and I'm still happy and I'm still learning. And I'm still curious, I'm happy, and I'm learning.
So I'll still be doing it. Eventually, you know, that won't be the case.
But I love it. Well, we appreciate the hell what you've done for us.
Incredible. Both for other companies that'll help us probably in the future and also directly for us.
Most recently, a 20-person reservation within an hour. Phenomenal.
At a phenomenal stage. Cheesecake.
I'm happy. Cheesecake was so good.
What's Tone has won? Yeah, I do. Pat just reminded me of it when he said, you know, I negotiated my own deal.
I could say whatever I want. Have you ever – you've known him for a year.
You ever work with someone like him that does anything like that? Come on, buddy. Yeah.
Who? So I can find out. Well, I mean, every client is unique, but they all are individuals.
They all have their own shtick. I mean, Larry David, you know, he does what he wants to do.
Marty Scorsese does what he wants to do. Seth McFarlane does what he wants to do.
They all have their own thing. It's incredible.
That's what makes them great artists. How many...
So you rep all those guys you just talked about? Yes. Tyler Perry, he does what he wants to do.
So you're not unique.

Who don't you rep?

Full-time, I don't represent your ass.

Yeah.

And that's a good spot to be.

I think, no, we are very lucky that you've been working your ass off for us, though.

Thank you for stopping by.

What are you in town for?

I got the lunch at Fanatics.

I got a couple meetings.

What are you doing at the Fanatics lunch? Are you serving food? No, no. I got a couple meetings there.
How much? Do you own Fanatics? We have an investment. There's a lot of people in the sports world.
You need to know this. A lot of people in the sports world not necessarily thrilled that Fanatics is the only option and that maybe it doesn't get right.
What don't they get right? A lot of stuff. Jerseys, names, numbers.
A lot of customer complaints. People get pissed, man.
We've got to get lists from you guys. We've got to have a meeting.
It's on Twitter. We can aggregate the information if you like us to, but it's out there.
Okay. Do you think just because I'm a bear fan, as you guys know, we didn't talk bears, but that's okay.
Don't worry about that. Definitely talk Bears.
Do you think they're going to have to sell? Oh. Okay, you look eager.
And what do you think the price is going to be? Are you buying them? It would be $8, $9 billion probably? In Chicago, don't you think it might be? $10? $10 plus. Yeah.
One of the only NFC teams, only one team. Sure.
Think about it. How much would it be? I think it's got to be between 8 and 10, right? Yeah.
What, if Washington went for 6 1⁄2? Yeah. Probably 8.
8, 9. Build the new stadium, too? What do you think? What is the chance? I love the Bears.
I love what we're doing. I love the coaching staff now.
Now. Yeah.
You love the quarterback. I love the quarterback.
I love what we're going to do with our pick. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Buddy just brought it up, so you feel like they have to sell because you think that – Well, I mean, there's tax issues.
I'm assuming. But that's also the discussion with that family is like, hey, they do have a new coaching staff.
They have Caleb Williams. They're exciting.
But, like, this family ultimately has just continually fucked it up for the last, you know, 50 years. Why do you have to hurt somebody like that? I'm just saying.
Why do you have to go there? Do they need to sell? You really have to go there? I'm a Packers fan, too. He enjoys all of it that it happens.
But you're thinking there's a chance that they're going to have to sell it. There is a tax issue unless they've covered it in a state plan.
So you're projecting $8 to $10 billion, and that would be something you could figure out. I don't know if I could figure out, but that's a hell of a team.
Hell of a city. We'd love a percentage.
Yeah, that'd be awesome. We would love a percentage.
We're so good about the Bears always. That'd be so good.
Caleb? Love the Bears. He's the guy.
Bear done. As for you, you're the man.
Thanks, guys. Thank you.
Appreciate it. I know.
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Hey, it's wonderful and we're celebrating it. The boys are here.
The Talks to the Table, We'll have Conner and I have Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer.
Done. Cowboys AP tone.
Darius J. Butler is looking very cool.
How'd the casino go? You know what? Terrible. Absolutely terrible.
I got my ass kicked in the quickest fashion I think ever. I don't think I ever gambled in this city again.
They've been taking a lot of money from a lot of us. Damn shame.
Yeah, yeah. I seen Tyronisia yesterday.
Okay? Yep. Wasn't her fault.
So you said her name? Well, it's T-A-R-O-N-I-S-I-A. Okay.
So I said, Tyronisia. Thought I nailed it.
Wrong. Love names.
Said it ten times. And she said, it's Tyronesha.
Ah. And I said, that's all me.
100%. I need a little bit more accent, I think, down here.
Because the way they speak here is wonderful. Love it.
It is fantastic. Just hearing it makes you feel good, the way the conversation goes about it.
But that casino has been rude. It has been greedy.
It has been doing shit you're not supposed to do, one after another. You'll tell a story one time about a seven-card 21 the dealer got me.
That's happening on a regular basis at these tables. I mean, speaking of shit you're not supposed to do.
Yeah. Yeah, there's a reason.
You guys undersold Bill on the blackjack table. Yeah, Bill.
Bill's a little, he's an independent thinker on that blackjack table. He's a fool.
I now understand why Chuck wanted to kill him last year. Yeah, he's unpredictable out there.
You know, a lot of part of blackjack, there's like a book. Sure.
And the book was created because, like, hey, this is the smartest way to go about doing this. Pretty easy game, too.
Pretty cut and dry. No doubt.
This is kind of the smart, here's the smart move. Now you can venture off

the trail a little bit, depending upon how

you feel. You know, if you have a pretty good

read on maybe what cards are left, which, I'm not saying

you count cards, but if there's a lot of faces

coming early, you've got to think to yourself, wait,

what's coming? Is it going to be a bust card, or

is it going to be a small card? So you can

kind of feel. You can start kind of

feeling things a little bit, but you're trying to stay

on like a, hey, this is how the game is played path for the good of everybody. Right.
Yep. Yeah, Bill done think like that.
Bill's like, hey, listen, this book, bullshit. These rules, I don't like them.
He didn't want to even hit on a single digit. He had eight.
And he stayed? Just a regular eight. Yeah, I'm going to stay.
Yep. He thinks like a serial killer, guys.
I'm going to stay. Didn't want to bust.
Now we try to tell him that any card could come, and he would still be in the hand. Sure.
Which we liked that he was trying to stay in the hand. You know, because every once in a while, there will be a bust card out there, a four or five or six, and Bailey's like, you know what, I'm at 15.
Let me go ahead and let me. Yeah, that happened too.
Come on, let me get one. Don't need to be doing that.
Their hand's probably going to bust, Bill. This isn't about beating their number.
It's about beating them every single time. And if they're going to bust, let them.
We just stay alive, Bill. Okay, okay, you got it.
Four comes around. Bill, this is when we want to eat here.
This is when you want to really do it. Bus.
Bill, bus out. Okay.
As he should. Bill, bus out.
Dealer hits 21. The man stayed on an eight.
I almost flipped the table. You did get up and leave.
But I would like to let the world know that those cards could have went our way still with Bill messing up. Sure.
But they definitely didn't. No.
And we lost every hit. No.
It was unbelievable, truly, what these casinos have done for us. But I say the times have been magical.
The boys have enjoyed it. A.J.
Hawk, obviously, you won a Super Bowl. We've covered a bunch of Super Bowls.
What are your thoughts on New Orleans thus far as the host? New Orleans is pretty sweet. I mean, obviously, it's a little unique, a little different than, what, Phoenix, Las Vegas we've been the last few years.
But New Orleans has its own feel.

Walking to dinner was pretty cool last night.

We walked across.

I think you mentioned it was like a movie set, a couple different things.

French quarters, I think.

Different areas, all the cool buildings.

New Orleans is cool.

It has its own identity.

I enjoy it.

I don't know how.

Yeah, I mean, it would be much different living here as opposed to coming here for three,

four, five days.

But it's cool, man.

I like it.

I like the vibe.

It's a host city.

Yes, for sure.

That is definitely what it is.

They want you to come and have a good time.

Yeah, I was trying to ask people where we were because there was even like a Tostitos chip and sip. Yeah.
Like little Super Bowl party deal. Snack town.
Outside. In the middle of like the French quarters area, I guess, is where we were, which is a movie.
Normally in in most cities, those are terrible. Yes.
Normally, there's nobody at these things because it's like, I'm not going to a commercial right now. Sure.
Last night, band was playing. Yeah, packed out.
Packed out, filled up. There was, I think, Reggie Bush was doing a meet and greet somewhere.
Saw Howie. Saw Howie.
I mean, it was just like, it was alive. It felt good last night.
Then we went in at a casino. Yeah And they said, you had fun, didn't you? That's going to cost you all of it.
Son of a bitch. There's raking the chips.
And what I think I've learned thus far is when you go into your pocket and you get that next round of money, that always works. Yeah, every time, usually.
I believe you said those exact words to me last night. Yeah, you always get back.
Like, that's why people do that. Like, hey, you know what? You have more, and you dump it out.

It always works, so you're going to get back.

That doesn't just disappear quicker normally because you're in the middle of a spiral, so now you're making

even more ridiculous decisions.

And that's when they got you. When they got you in the middle

of that blizzard of L's,

it's tough to keep up.

Gotta know when to stop. Once you start doing shit,

you had no game plan to do.

You know what? I'll just do a cash event. Hey, AQ, can you just Venmo me or Venmo you something? We didn't know AQ was a professional blackjack player.
Yeah, he went to MIT. He went to MIT.
He knows exactly how to beat the game. I don't want to spot him.
That all depends on the shoe. He had it figured out.
Yeah, he did. When it's going good on the double deck, it goes good.
When it goes bad, it goes bad real quick. Real quick.
I put the profits away and before long, I was pulling those profits out. Bad move.
Bad move. Yeah, I'm sure.
The double deck was really a big brain creation from you. Better odds.
Hey, I'll be able to count these cards.

Got eight aces.

Got 32 tens.

This is easy.

This is no problem.

Two decks.

I won't go one-on-one.

He watched that 21 movie.

He had it doing hand signals.

Oh, yeah.

Whole thing.

Magazine, magazine.

Dude lost 800 bucks in four hands.

He thought the numbers were right.

They were wrong.

Couldn't get to the ATM quick enough. Dude.
Yeah. It's hard.
It's a hard game. That's why Dana, how he wins and he gets kicked out of places, that dude actually has to count these cards.
If you are counting the cards, I don't know how you do it. There's so many things you've got to keep track of.
I've not figured out blackjack yet. Dana leaves.
Dana says, I live in Vegas. I'm not just popping by.
If I get up 800K, I get up and leave, and I get out of there instead of staying and giving it all back. They want you to stay up.
Man, I wonder if that's why all the casinos kick them out. Probably.
Oh, that's okay. Yeah, just come by once a night.
I don't think so, pal. Deposit 750.
Yeah, it is such a good game, though. Great times.
When the vibes are high, we had probably one good deck at our table, and when everyone's celebrating everyone's winning we went in with a plan like hey we're sitting on 16 we're not hitting and when those kind of work out it worked for a whole shoe it worked for an entire deck it was incredible we're all gonna play like assholes it's gotta be consistent i mean this is yeah exactly it's the consistency and when you get you get someone who's hitting when the dealer is showing four and they have a 15 or a 16, that's when it becomes, hey, what's this asshole doing? But if we're in it together as a team, then at least we're all assholes. And staying on 16 when a dealer potentially has a made hand already is just as bad as taking a card that you could potentially bust against a bust card because you don't even have a qualifying hand yet, which I understand if we're staying on 16, we're all doing it.
But I want to let you know, if I'm just sitting next to somebody that's just staying on 16, whenever there is a 9-10 face out in front of me, I'm going to have a tough time. That did happen with a couple 12-13s.
There's no doubt that that number did drop a couple times and that did end up screw screwing us, but because, you know, we all know each other. We're all hanging out.
It's not Bill. That kind of helps as well.
Good times at the table. Such good times.
It is. For a little bit.
For a little bit, you know. Then, you know, you get your teeth kicked.
And I think that's the biggest problem, is last time we were here, everyone won, and that's just all we were saying coming in the entire week is winning casino. Cas gives you money giving casino if you guys do recall so you know you lose the first night hey but remember guys this is a this is a giving casino it's going to give it back to you it doesn't inevitably should have known right away walk down boom that's not a harris that's a caesars i mean it just different casino yeah different vibes different winners different losers.
Was that the craps table? That one great. Sure.
Four minutes. All the chips gone.
It was quick. Took longer for me to get all my chips onto my bets than for me to roll a seven after getting a point.
I mean, just eliminated so much money. Yeah.
Just so quickly. One round.
I'm like, you know what? This is good. I'll go back to blackjack.
Killed again. Boom.

Then I went over a roulette. Good time

on a roulette. Okay.
Good time on a

roulette. Not as good as the guy next to me.
A guy was

waiting on a black 11 to hit, and he was just

stacking it every single time. I guess it came

inevitably. He won all of his money.

That has to feel good

whenever you hit like that. Yeah, weapon.
Casino's been

great. New Orleans has been fantastic

for one man. Josh Allen came down

here this week and

wasn't an MVP, and now

Oh, weapon. Casino's been great.
New Orleans has been fantastic for one man. Josh Allen came down here this week and wasn't an MVP, and now he'll be leaving New Orleans as the most valuable player in the NFL.
Congratulations, Josh Allen. Hell yeah, Josh.
Now, there's a lot of conversation, obviously, because Lamar Jackson was first-team All-Pro quarterback, so everybody assumed, I think, since 1987, basically, in this particular situation uh anybody that's been voted first team all pro or something like that uh wins the mvp john elway i think i was reading this i think john elway was the last time yeah that it happened or whatever that tv's so far away there's no way i could read that but i do appreciate you making me smarter foxy elway mvp montana first team all pro that, yes. And then I think it did happen again with Peyton and McNair.
Okay, so this has happened in the past mostly because they're saying that it's a statistical award being first team All-Pro where the MVP is value of player to team. And I think that was Dan Orlovsky's argument this morning.
It was also the conversation all year with the guy who has the AP vote for our particular program, which people in the AP were not happy about us getting a vote. No, they were not.
But now the whole world basically knows who all has votes. Fascinating.
I wonder if there was an uproar amongst other decisions that were made. But you guys were voting for most valuable player.
We saw your entry form, and you had Josh Allen as MVP. Why was that the case? And how do you think the awards went last night? Yeah, I mean, I think I was shocked that Josh Allen won the MVP, even though I voted for him as MVP because of how the AP went.
I also had Josh Allen as my first team quarterback in the All-Pro. So I was not one of the voters that decided to put Lamar as first team All-Pro and then vote for Josh as MVP.
You know, it's not a statistical award. The MVP is not.
We learned that last year when Dak had the best statistics in the league for a quarterback, and Lamar won because Lamar's season last year was the most valuable season, even though his statistics were not the best. And then I thought this year is my first year voting.
You know, we had a lot of talk at the beginning of the season that the Bills window was closed. They were done.
They lost their receivers, they lost their safeties, they lost other guys off the defense. The window was closed for the Bills and they didn't have a chance.
And then Josh put the team on his back. You know, Khalil Shakir was their number one receiver.

And coming into the season, people were like,

you can't win with that as your number one receiver.

And I thought Josh just did so much to carry the team.

Not that Lamar didn't.

Like, I had Lamar as my offensive player of the year because the year he had was historic as well.

So I didn't want Lamar, like, to be left out completely

because of the season he had was unbelievable.

But I just thought Josh did more with less. And Josh had 40 total touchdowns.
Lamar had 45. So, I mean, yes, statistically, Lamar was a little bit better.
But I just thought Josh did more with less. I thought he was the more valuable player in my eyes.
Okay, I think that's an okay vote. I think so.
I think that's an okay vote. And if we look at your ballot, you actually, I think, had it exactly how it ended up tallying up for the scores.
Because you get a certain amount of points for first place votes, a certain amount of points for those other votes. And how everybody had it was either Lamar or Josh.
Lamar or Josh. Except for Lamar or Josh.
Yeah. Well, of course.
Who? I can't remember the guy's name, but he had Lamar fourth in MVP voting. I don't know who the guy is.
I can't remember off the top of my head. Miller? Yeah, something Miller.
I don't understand how that happens.

Yeah, absolutely foolish.

I mean, in the Hall of Fame, too. Let's not

even get into that. But I think it's just a good sign

how good Ball is right now.

Jamar Chase, no one's talking about him.

He had one of the best seasons ever

for a wide receiver, and he won the triple crown.

It's like, some people just

had better years, and I feel like it's great

that we get a Lamar into Josh in the same, you know, decade era of the NFL. Yeah, I thought Lamar was going to win it.
I was watching the show live, very surprised. Now, a lot of things happened during that show.
Sure. You bet.
A lot of things happened in that show. Jelly Roll.
Jelly Roll and Snoop. Is he signed a new dude?

Yeah.

Three tech, I think they're going to get him.

Hey, Jelly Roll's losing weight.

Oh, yeah.

Hey, Jelly, we're happy for you, man.

And also, Jelly getting in full uniform on stage.

Sweet.

Unbelievable.

He had to be laughing so hard at all of that.

Walked out with the helmet on.

Took that thing off clean, too.

Yeah.

Took that thing off clean.

Jelly and Snoop. Snoop taking a shot.
Just stating a fact, I think. About Coach Belichick.
Yeah. Plus one.
Sure. His lady friend.
She had a Super Bowl ring on. He had a bunch, too.
Yes, he did. He had a lot of Super Bowl.
He's reminding people. How about him going out there and just doing his thing? How about Kevin O'Connor winning Coach of the year? Yeah.
Hell yeah. OC.
He said, it's pretty crazy to get this, receive this award from the guy who drafted me. And then also the greatest of all times, Kevin O'Connell.
Give a shout out to Bill Belichick, who was up there. So congrats to KOC.
Great jawline. Great work as a coach.
We saw that video of him chewing out his team. Or heard that video of him chewing out his team.
I like that. I like the way Justin Jefferson is able to work his ass off for whoever.
He's their superstar wide receiver. He'll block.
He'll get after it. He'll have 180 yards.
Who's the quarterback going to be? Does it matter? I don't think so. I mean, that's the real question at this point.
Isn't that crazy? That's probably why he won Coach of the Year. Great coaching.
That's legitimately why he's probably Coach of the Year. That was probably the thing that went over the hump.
Whenever they're talking about it, they're going, so anybody can be this guy's quarterback? Is that how this works? And it's like, yeah, I think so. That's got to be the guy.
That was another category. I remember your watch list had, what, like eight, nine guys? Well, it started with 32.
It started with 32. And then got down to one.
So, yeah, he definitely earned it with the resurgence that Sam Donald had,

the year that they had, you know, 14 wins,

and then going into, I think, first team in the wild card team with 14 wins.

But, yeah, Kevin O'Connor was definitely much, much deserving.

Okay, we'll continue the awards conversation in a matter of moments. Ladies and gentlemen, there is a governor standing outside.

Oh, hell yeah.

The governor of this here state of Louisiana, ladies and gentlemen, Jeff Landry. Jeff Landry.
Jeff Landry. Thank you, Pat.
I want to come here. I think you should set your headquarters like right here.
Right here full time. Oh, they would love you.
I'm telling you, this city is like built for you. Hey, Governor, I'll tell you what.
We've been feeling that way. We walked through the French Quarter last night.
We had dinner at Doris Metropolitan. And then we walked back.
And the casino has been beating us, Governor. I will say the Sportacourt.
We've got to get our revenue. We've got to get our revenue.
Okay, tell me about the state and why it's such a good hosting place. And what is New Orleans going to show the world here this weekend? Well, look, first of all, I want to thank you all for giving me just a little time to have some entertainment.
I don't get to just listen. I just enjoyed it.
I did not get to do what many fans get to do and just sit here and watch a show like I would love to because we've got so many things. So thank you all for entertaining me for a little while.
My wife will absolutely love that. Look, I can tell you what we have worked on was to make sure that the city was ready to welcome the world.
Because quite frankly, when you have a Super Bowl, you welcome the world. It is the greatest show on earth.
It is the most watched show. It is where everybody comes to be entertained.
And this is the greatest city to be able to do that. And, of course, we started last year.
I mean, you've got to think about it. We started working towards making sure that we were going to put on an unbelievable event, and then we had the tragedy, right, that happened on New Year's morning.
I mean, it was unbelievable. It just shook the city.
But I don't think that there is a city, Pat. I'll tell you this.
I don't think that there is a city that is capable of being able to lift those up, lift the victims and their families and those that were injured, and then at the same time send a message that guess what? This is a city of entertainment, and this is what America is about, and that's what we said we were going to do, and that's what we do it. Yeah, you take a swing, but we're going to fight back.
That's right. Oh, yeah.
You knock us down, but we're coming right back up. Yes, and that's the story of New Orleans I think we've been hearing from a lot of people.
And that's the feeling we had. Drew Brees talked to us yesterday about how because of everything that happens here, there's like a real gratitude of life.
There's like a real appreciation of life. And you can feel that from the people.
I agree. Security included.
I mean, we've got a chance to meet a lot of your state troopers, and they look really cool. I don't know if they're on camera or not.
Great uniforms. The Blues are a great group.
But even walking through the city, the people working at the restaurants, it's like there's just a vibe amongst the people here. And I got to experience it at LSU when we came down for College Game Day.
Oh, we love y'all. The vibe was insane.
It's just like a Louisiana feel. We love people.
We love people. Look, hospitality may have been invented in the South, but I say it was perfected in Louisiana.
Like, we love y'all. We really do.
We just love people. We love to watch people have a good time.
We like you to leave the restaurants where you're feeling so bad. Oh, yeah, we do.
I got to walk three or four more blocks. Yeah.
If you leave and your pants still fit, you know, the way it's like, that means we did a bad job. It felt like that last night.
Yeah, yeah. It felt like that last night.
AJ has a question for you, Governor. Governor, when you talk to other governors, you ever ask them, hey, when you guys get in office, why do you turn into robots that are not relatable? You're like such a relatable, good human, which has got to be very difficult in your position.
But why is it where some people get in that spot and it's almost like, hey, I don't understand who this is anymore? I don't know. I just think for a long time people just, you know, you get into the office and you let the office become you and you forget that you got into the office because there are people out there that put you in that office.
And if you stay with the people who put you in the office and you just be a regular, be who you are, right? If you're good enough to be able to get 51% of the people to be able to vote for you, then you should stay that way. And that's how I am.
You know, I just grew up just a little country boy in a great state that really has great things to offer. And so, again, I don't know.
I just... The way we learned of you? Because you wanted that tiger on the sideline.
You wanted that tiger on the sideline. I got a couple more surprises.
Y'all stay tuned. We're going to make college.
It's going to be great. It's going to be unbelievable.
Can we talk about that tiger, though? Can we talk about that Tiger? Sure, sure, absolutely. Because there was full conversation that was happening about, like, should we talk about it because there's people that aren't happy about it, but then there was people that were very pumped about it, and then obviously all roads were leading back to you.
They were like, Governor Jeff Lange is going to have a Tiger on that sideline. That's how this is going to go.
Why was that so important to you? And what do you think kind of about how it all went down? Well, look, I'll tell you this. You know, you talk about governors.
There's a great governor, great governor, Jim Pillum from Nebraska. Sure.
He played football for Nebraska. He was a defensive back in the late 70s, early 80s.
And about four months before, five months before, we're talking about putting the Tiger on, I ran into Jim. And he's telling me, he says, you know, all the years I played in Nebraska, he said, my most memorable game was as a freshman going down to Tiger Stadium.
He said, they would park the cat outside of the visitor's locker room. He said, I know they'd poke that animal.
He'd be growling. This is the most intimidating thing.
I mean, this went on. I was a child back then, right? I mean, Nebraska.
Remember Nebraska? Oh, yeah. Maybe not you.
I'm black shirt. So Jim's telling me this, and he's like, it's the most unbelievable thing.
And as a child, I remember you put the cheerleaders on top of the cage, and they'd roll the tiger around the stadium. Everybody would go wonderful.
I mean, it became like a family event, and in some kind of way, we felt like we couldn't do that anymore. And, I mean, it's just ridiculous.
And so I said, you know what, we're going to bring that back. And so, you know, Alabama has got just a terrible – we don't have a good record against Alabama in Tiger Stadium.
I think they're like 22-4 against LSU in Death Valley. But I'm 1-0 against PETA, and so I'll take that.
Yes. Yes.
Yes. They were coming after you.
And's zoos that have tigers. And I see the sanctuary that's down there for the tiger.
Five million dollars. Five million.
That's what he's saying. We're taking care of this tiger.
We are. Look, I say this.
When we brought this tiger in, this lady, we got this tiger in. She would get in the cage.
Like, this tiger. We are.
We are. Look, I tell you this.
When we brought this tiger in, this lady, this lady, we got this tiger in. Yeah.
She would get in the cage. This cat was like a big house cat to her.
And then, you know, I'm all nervous. We got all the pressure y'all put on me.
We get this tiger. No.
We were nervous. I was doing journalism.
We get this tiger into the stadium, and he's just laying there. And I said, they're going to think I drug that cat, which is completely against the law.
We never do. Of course, of course.
That tiger, he loved being there. You know what the problem was? They didn't leave him there long enough.
That was my opinion. I agree.
I think you should have left him there long. He was having such a great time.
We wanted to beg him to get up, you know? Okay, so we're saying what it sounds like is that tiger's probably coming back to the sideline. I'm just saying, I think there are a lot of people out there that realize that it's really not a big thing and that everybody likes to get out.
I mean, how would you like me to just keep you in your house and never let you out? I wouldn't like that. Me neither.
I'm just not built for that. Me neither.
So, yeah, look, and, you know, Colorado's a buffalo, the Longhorns. I mean, yeah, we just got the tigers.
You're taking care of the tigers. That sanctuary that you guys have for that Tiger down there.
Great. So nice.
Air conditioning. Had a little snow this year.
Hey, what's up? Snow. Oh, the Tiger had such a great time.
Mike had a great time in the snow. Mike.
Mike did have a great time. Mike did have a great time.
Snowed. He was back out.
He was like, great. I don't know.
Yeah. Tone has a question for you, Governor.
Yeah, Governor. We've been searching all week.
Where's the best place to get some gator? Yeah, we like gator. We like gator.
Yeah, we need some gator. I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm going to get myself an all-counter. I'm the best place to get gator.
Okay. Yes.
Where? Yes. Of course.
You should have brought a gator. We're talking about Jeff Landry gator.
You just send me an ad. I'm going to take care of you.
Thank you. Okay, so hold on.
How do we eat Gator if we were to eat Gator? Right. Is it like a po' boy Gator po' boy? One bite at a time.
Okay. Is it like a steak? How do we eat it? You can have it any kind of way.
Fried, grilled. Fried, grilled.
Yeah, great. Grilled Gator.
We had octopus yesterday. You need a cup of Gator hunting with me.
That's what y'all need. We heard about it yesterday.
We heard about it yesterday. I would love to.
Yeah, but gate is great. We'll get y'all some.
Thank you. Darius has a question for you, Governor.
Which way are you leaning in this game right now? I know your Saints aren't in it, but which way are you leaning right now? Chiefs, Eagles, all of us kind of been going back and forth. They look like they kind of picked the side already, but which way are you leaning right now? I'm actually watching y'all.
You know, there's three of y'all right here. When we get to critical mass, I don't know.
It's really interesting. There's part of me that's like you'd love to see somebody be able to do it three times in a row, right? Because that's what records are meant to hold a record and you want somebody to break it.
And, of course, you got the Philly story. So, I don't know.
I'm not there yet. I tell you, you check back with me Sunday morning.
Sunday morning. Where will you be watching the game from? From the box.
I got a ticket. You're the governor of the state.
He made my wife, too, and she was kind enough to want to take me. Okay, I like that.
I appreciate it. We got to be there with, you know, the big guys coming.
Yeah. Oh, yeah, the president.
Oh, yeah. The president's coming.
You know what's crazy? This is the first time? This is the first time that a sitting president has been to the Super Bowl. And I was like, there's no way.
That was shocking. Like, 59 Super Bowls.
And I know I've seen presidents, like, flip the coin or something. I guess it's when they leave.
First time. First time.
Yeah, I didn't expect to read that either. That changes security plans, right? We're all right.
We're safe. We're good.
We just put him right in. Yeah.
It's not a problem. And Alabama, when he went to Alabama again, I got a chance to, like, kind of hear about the setup.
It's like because of what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania. Right.
There's, like, even. Oh, yeah.
No, no, no. And once again, New Orleans is the right place to be.
We here. Thank you all so much.
Really do, Pat. Thank you all for being here.
Thank you all for loving the city. And can't wait for a great game.
Can we loosen it up a little bit at the casino? Please. Can we give them a call? I'm going to call the boys.
We appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen. The governor of Louisiana, Jeff Landry.
Thank you, Governor. That's Governor of Louisiana.
What a rocket ship. Gator.
You know the best place to get gator now. Just my injury.

Boom.

I got to get you going gator hunting.

Listen, a lot of people knew it wasn't that bad for the Tigers.

Mike loved it.

He loved it. Mike loves the snow.

Mike loves the snow.

Told the story.

Nebraska guy told him that they definitely were prodding that.

Yeah, they prodding him.

He'll piss him off, make him cry.

AJ, I look like the youngest guy. Why do you think I remember Nebraska? I don't understand.
What was he doing? What's going on there? I'm not sure, D-Bot. I can't.
I don't know. D-Bot.
That's a good question. You obviously didn't watch Nebraska.
Well, then what about you three? What about you three? I don't know. Was that critical mass? Was that critical mass? I don't know.
That was awesome. Can't wait to get some data.
I had no idea what that was going to be like. I had no clue.
We should have dinner with Governor Jeff Landry. Need a weekly spot.
Governor Jeff Landry, his name was just being echoed everywhere. I was walking down there.
At dinner, Governor Jeff Landry wants that tiger. Talked about him for an hour.
He was not there. Then we go to where the production room is in a building, and there's people like, Governor DeFlandre, you better not put that tiger.
Like, there's people that were very counter this entire thing because they thought it was going to blow up. So, literally, my entire stay at LSU was people talking about Governor DeFlandre.
I see why. Telling stories about whenever they met him, whenever he was a kid, where he's from, and how he does this,

and how he's been in the office a few times.

It's like, this guy, he's got the world

talking right now. He shows up right here

and just, undefeated, brother.

I want to know. Undefeated, brother.

Bayman's got a good record at LSU, but

I'm 1-0 against Peter.

Hey, that was another big time story. Because of how

scary

Death Valley is. Sure.
Which, in theory theory should be. Yeah.
His defense, too, is there's no offense for that. How would you like it if I locked you up all day in your house? And I thought about my four cats immediately, and I'm like, I'm kind of giving a life sentence to four felines in my house, buddy.
But, yeah, I guess he was going to get that tiger on that sideline.

He did.

And it sounds like it's going to happen again.

As it should.

Governor Jeff Landry is just doing his thing.

And you asked him a question, how does he not change at all?

I don't know if he can.

He can't.

I mean, that's.

I don't think Jeff Landry can.

Okay.

Allegedly, multiple Eagles players are battling a flu.

You guys hearing this?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I saw that.

A little bit of a sickness.

Now, if it is the same flu that I saw my wife have right before I came down here to Super Bowl, buddy, this is a violent one. It is a, I think it's a pretty quick, I think it is a wave, but I think it is a very serious, a lot of puking.
Sure. They're saying it's a little work of voodoo.
So I was asked about that last night on the street. We were walking through the street.

You remember that?

It was, yeah.

Different kind of street.

I popped out of nowhere.

I was just stopped.

I think it was Outkick.

It was.

I don't know who it was, but it was Outkick.

It was a lady.

Uh-huh.

And she asked me, do you have a second?

Like, literally on the side of the street.

So quick, boom.

Mike Phen just got out a great dinner.

Great dinner.

So good.

It was a great dinner.

It was.

Top to bottom.

It really was.

Oh, yeah.

Great old-fashioned. Everything about it was great presentation, good food, good timing.
Yeah. Steak was on fire.
Had to get in. The steak was on fire.
They had fire. They had fire on all the steaks right in front of our faces.
So coming out of a great time, boom. How are you feeling? Can we ask you a question? Sure.
I mean, you're recording right now, so. Two questions.
We should definitely do that, yes.

And then I was appreciative for the opportunity. She immediately brought up, like,

voodoo happening. Witchcraft.

Yeah, witchcraft. I mean, that's New Orleans.

Tay voodoo. And that.

I hadn't even thought of it. I hadn't

even thought of that beat. Maybe.

Maybe. Chance.
Maybe. And then I heard

Travis Kelsey the other day say that whenever

Taylor did a show

in Kansas City,

she did some football throw in the middle of it, and then she counted the three. So it's like the Tay voodoo.
Oh, is that part of the three-peat as well? That would be kind of like the witch's coven. And then you listen to what the internet's saying about the voodoo that's already happening.
Yeah. You have to wonder, are your Eagles bets safe? There's something afoot.
Yeah, is there something working? What if the Eagles win? Then people would say that the refs weren't on their side all game, all season? They'll say Coop hit them with kind of a curveball wizard's magic. Oh.
To counter. To counter, because he's so handsome.
Exactly. Bradley Cooper's handsomeness, because he is a celebrity fan for the Philadelphia.
Maybe sacrifices a Philly cheesesteak. Oh, there you go.
From Danny and Coops. From Danny and Coops.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, joining us. We thought we were going to get a chance to talk to him a little bit earlier, but obviously he is the talk of any town that he is in because the way he talks, it lights up any town that he is in.
Ladies and gentlemen, quarterback for the Bryans and the Saints and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Florida State, ladies and gentlemen, James Winston. Yay, James! James! Great boots.
Great fit. Great fit.
New boot goofing. You got some snakes doing.
Yeah. Those snakes died in its sleep.
Lived a long life. Died in its sleep.
Yeah. These are not snakeskin.
These are ostrich. Oh, okay.
With a nice leather of their long necks. Sure.
Yeah, so. I don't think so.
It looks like snake to me. I think these are ostrich.
No, I think they are. I think they are.
I can see the ostrich pattern. Kind of looks like a gator almost.
Could be gator. He is a gator.
Ostrichs have different complexions, right? Yeah. Ostrichs.
Yeah. These are ostrichs.
I don't know. They're ostrichs.
I agree. I agree.
I agree. I got a pair of Ostrichs then, too.
These are Ostrichs boots. Yes.
Might be some Cayman crock. Hey, listen.
I am happy that I'm we need to get a pair. Those are amazing.
As do you. How are you doing, man? Let me let you know.
From Media Night, through all of the content that you've been creating down here, absolutely crushing it. Thank you.
You enjoying the hell out of Megan? I enjoy the responses that I got from you. Because when I watch your show, I know that you're speaking real stuff, and I admire everybody that you bring with you.
And you told me one thing. You're like, get away from the fluff.
Don't ask any of the questions that other people tell me to ask. Bingo.
You need to be who you are. Yes.
And I took that same work to NFL honors, you know, but trying to fit in this space, man, is very challenging because, like, people keep saying, like, you on the dark side. Like, no, I'm not on the dark side.
Like, I'm in a space where I want to be able to elevate the athlete. Yeah, but your response to that dark side thing was? Yep.
Yeah. Perfect.
It went over his head, right? Yeah, but that's going to happen, James. That's going to happen.
Hey, that's going to happen. You need to just keep moving with that.
For sure. Come on.
Hey, you are great and meant to be on a microphone. Oh, yeah.
So don't listen to any of these people. No, thank you.
But no one is on your level, Pat. And I got to give you your flowers, man.
When I saw you doing the – when I saw y'all doing the national championship from the back of the end zone, like I have trouble even watching the end zone view on film. And y'all are calling the game, man, and your energy, your enthusiasm.
Come on, come on, come on, come on. It's unbelievable.
Enough about that. We are very lucky and thankful that you're going to get in the content world.
Sports world is very lucky for that. Now, with that being said, you obviously know that you're near that at some point.
Like what are you – is this preparing for future while still – I don't have a contingency plan, brother. My focus is on being the best quarterback that I still can be.
That's what I'm still preparing for. I'm just allowing myself to venture off and accept other roles to learn and see what I like.
What you have to do. I think that's a very smart move.
And also being fully focused on football, where is the mindset at right now? My mindset right now is on my preparation, on eliminating all negative plays and focusing on how can I play consistent winning football. So has God blessed you with throwing less pick sixes? So the Lord has definitely delivered me from pick sixes.
Because I didn't throw any more pick sixes. Now I threw a few picks, but I should have been more specific in my prayer.
Yeah. Back to the drawing board.
Absolutely. Lock it in.
Every prayer can get better, you know what I mean? Every single one. AJ has a question for you.
That's why you pray every day. Absolutely.
James, first off. Let's pray right now, actually.
James, do you pray for us? I can't. Heavenly Father, we do not want to joke about you at all, Lord.
We are so honored and grateful that we are able to be among each other, Lord. You have given us this moment now, and this is all that we have, God.
Help us please to advance your kingdom as we move forward, Lord. I just pray for Pat and his team, Lord, that they just continue to give people the word of true sports, of experiences, of a lifetime, Lord.
But through that, Lord, they can find you in everything that they do, Lord. Bless us with a great voice, Lord.
Lead us to the promised land, Lord. In Jesus' name I pray, amen.
Amen. Thank you, James.
That was awesome. AJ has a question for you.
Obviously, I'm sure everybody's been asking about this game. If the Eagles win this game, how do they win the game? Have you made predictions? What's your thoughts? Everyone asks me for a prediction.
I just say it's about the trenches. I'm in the best of both worlds because I love and respect both quarterbacks.
But I know it's about what's going to happen on the inside. I know one matchup that everyone's going to be watching is Jalen Carter and Trey Smith, right? Because Jalen only plays to the right side.
So he's going to have help from Creed. Trey's going to have help from Creed.
So they have to dominate this. But what the Eagles have to prepare for is the matchups that they're going to

create with number 95,

because Chris Jones plays all over

the front line, and I know Spags does an

excellent job of stopping a run, but his

main focus is stop Saquon

and make Jalen Hurts carry the

football. If Jalen Hurts has to have

over 20 carries this game, I think Kansas City will

pull off. If Jalen Hurts in their

RPO game is able to

suck Spagnolia's defense

in, but force them to give and have

I don't know. with 20 carries this game, I think Kansas City will pull off.
If Jalen Hurts in their RPO game is able to suck Spagnolia's defense in but would force them to give and have different things off that so they can attack the perimeter, because I think the Eagles have really worn on the perimeter opposed to just running straight up the middle. Even when you see Saquon's long run, he's making a cut, and then he's bouncing out to the outside and getting vertical after that.
So if the Eagles can win vertical, they'll win a game. If Kansas City can stop the Eagles from vertically penetrating them in the running game, suck them off and penetrate.
It's the best of both words for me. I love both of these quarterbacks.
I love both of these head coaches. I love both of these teams.
I think Vic Fangio's defense is very simple. They're going to populate people around everybody because they play

mass zone coverage. I think that's tough

for Kelsey, who has an amazing ability

to get open. But one thing about his

defense, bunches and stacks

expose them because they make a sky call

where defenders are just going to zone

spacing, and that allows Travis

Kelsey just to get open. To work underneath.

Yes. Okay, so whenever they talk about spags, they say he brings it a lot.
does is there blitzes now how many years you've been in the league I've been in the league 10 years okay that's a long ass time congratulations not easy at all okay the amount of blitzes what is the hardest thing to is it the disguises is it picking guessing can you normally figure out a blitz what is the thought of a quarterback whenever blitzes one of the top things in the cornerback is like, what is my protection area that is like at stake? And when you have a protection problem, you have to start with who is their most dominant defensive lineman. And for Kansas City, it's Chris Jones.
But you can't base your protection just on him because he moves all over the field. And we had a study with the Cleveland Browns, like, typically Kansas City is bringing 90% of their pressures away from Chris Jones because they want to show you Chris Jones being on this side.
They want to bring the pressure opposite. Once we played them, obviously, defense, they do self-scout as well.
They brought all their pressures to Chris Jones. So, yes, it is deceptiveness.
It is the disguise. But it's the way that his safeties work.
Josh Cook and – is it Eric, not Eric Reid, Justin Reid, they work so well together. They're not as great as ball hawking safeties, but they do a good job of getting their depth and playing downhill to help their corners out.
And they got one corner that's a solid corner, that's one of the top corners is Lee and Trink McDuffie. So their zone pressures when they are in man, he typically locks somebody up.
So I'm going to be curious to see the one-on-one matchup between him and A.J. Brown and Devonta Smith.
D-Botch has a question for you. I mean, outstanding.
Phenomenal answers. Yes.
That's really good football. That's a prayer's answer right there.
That's a good voice. But you talked about, you know, been in the league 10 years, and you also said earlier in the conversation about accepting different roles.
You've been in so many different positions, been positions been a number one pick you know having the keys handed to you for being the face of the franchise and then at some point in your career being backup quarterback how was that uh mindset change for you not only on the field but as the as the player in the locker room because you still are a huge personality that people I feel like look up to the leadership role well I've always focused on the servant leadership part of the quarterback position and leadership in general because people can get led in different ways. Some people you can really hold them accountable, be firm with them.
Some people you got to baby them, you know, for the most part. So I always just focus on that aspect.
But when I was a starter, a firm starter when I was young, the face of the franchise of the Buccaneers, my sole focus was to get people to like me. You know what I'm saying? I wanted to be a people pleaser.
You know, I want to make everybody happy. But when I got to New Orleans Saints after Tom Brady led the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the same team that I was on, to the Super Bowl, I had to understand, like, man, everybody don't got to like you.
You just got to win games. And that's one thing that Sean Payton taught me in New Orleans.
But seeing Drew Brees and Sean Payton have the continuity to really put a plan together, to argue about certain things, but at the end of the day come up with something like, how can we best win this game? Not, Jameis, are you going to throw for 400 yards and five touchdowns to win the game for us? But is the special teams going to win this game for us? Is the defense going to have to get a big turnover for us? Like, what is required for us to win every game individually? And I think that's how I grew in terms of knowing the quarterback position. But in terms of service, I've always wanted to serve my players to the best of my abilities.
So when I became that backup quarterback, per se, because that was my role, I wanted to ensure, like, just like specialists, like specialists and quarterbacks are on the same team because there's only one of us out there. There's only one of us out there.
So we have to exert all of our energy to helping that one person be his best. And that's why, honestly, Cleveland Browns was so peaceful for me because this was the first time that I was able to be the veteran in a room.
Like, even when I had to back up Derek Hart, Derek still was the veteran. Like, you know, he had one year over me.
But I was – it was nothing I really could teach him. I just was there to serve him.
But Deshaun, DTR, Bailey Zapp late in the year, Tyler Huntley with his resurgence with Miami, I was able to actually speak into their lives and give them little tools in the game. You know how it is.
So you enjoyed it. You enjoyed the transition because whenever we were with Andrew Luck, Matt Hasselbeck was the backup that got brought in.
And he said he had to have a conversation with himself like, hey, all right, my time's up. I can give back here with this guy, or I can be a guy who still tries to get a starting role somewhere,

starting quarterback somewhere.

And he said he came at peace or whatever with being Andrew Luck's backup

and everything like that.

Have you had to have that conversation because you said backup role is there?

Or do you think you still have starting football?

I know I'm one of the best.

Because I think you played starting football.

I know I'm one of the best 32 quarterbacks in this world.

Okay.

And no one can take that away from me. But I do whatever is required.
And what I want for myself, I want for everyone. So when someone else is in that role, like late in the season when Kevin Stefanski turned it over to Dorian Thompson Robinson, man, I'm his biggest fan because I know the importance of week to week.
I just want to win. That's all I want.
It's not the stardom. It's not the fame.
Obviously, I want to be the team's quarterback, because that's what I think is required for me, because I want to feel that. You know what I'm saying? But I just want to win.
So anywhere I can help, anywhere I can serve, anything I can do to play more consistently to win, I'm going to do that. Yeah.
Hell yeah, James. Let's go, James.
Love it. Hell yeah, James.
Connor has a question for you. Yeah, James, so you kind of led us in prayer there, and you talked about the game on the field, but what do you think the pregame speeches from these coaches is going to be? What do you think the message is to their teams? Because obviously the Chiefs are talked about with the refs and everything, and then the Eagles have, you know, they're kind of playing spoiler and all the pressures on them.
What do you think the coaches are going to be saying to their team? Well, I think any time you have the biggest event of it all, or you want to silence the noise and focus on them. What do you think the coaches are going to be saying to their team? Well, I think anytime you have the biggest event of it all, you want to silence the noise and focus on playing your best game.
So the coaches are telling them, hey guys, let's focus on being our very best for this last game. We don't have enough game this year.
So why not show up right here, right now, in the biggest moment of them all with everybody watching you and play the best version of yourself today. Hell yeah, I like that.
Hey, those moments that they started catching with you when you were running this year, it's not about the lights. It's not about the cameras.
Not about the action. Actually, it is about that.
It was awesome. It was great.
It was such a moment. Every week, we were looking forward to hearing you.
And now, you know, with this week of work that you've done here at the Super Bowl and everything you've ever done on any podcast or show, you have a very lucrative career waiting for you whenever it's all said and done. So enjoy the hell out of your time spinning the rock, brother.
We can't thank you enough. Thank you.
Thank you. But it's about the impact, and that's what you guys are doing.
You guys are impacting the sports space in a whole other realm, especially with your work ethic and you allowing and trusting the guys that you have with you to do their best job, man. Well, you got a good team, James, you know, and I think you're a leader of great men.
Yeah, leader of men. Yeah, leader of men.
Truly. I believe that.
Thank you. This cardigan.
Cardigan, yes. It's cardigan.
Ostrich, too. Yeah, that looks awesome.
I'm going to have to check my salads on them because if these not ostrich, I'm deeper than man. I ain't going to say they're a snake, I'm going to say they're a gator.
You know? Gator. Gator.
Gator. Hey, so Zito just told me that you have a tea.
You're doing... Yes, real tea.
Real tea. The best tea and the realest tea of them all has high in antioxidants.
And I'm just an advocate for promoting things that I can actually drink after a workout. So this tea is a tea that has essential vitamins in there, antioxidants.
It makes you younger. It makes you healthy.
It's very hydrating, yes. It's called real tea? It's called R-Y-L-T.
Real Tea.

Real.

Realest tea you'll ever have.

Okay.

All right.

I haven't seen your case.

It's everywhere.

It's in Walmart.

It's in Target.

It's in Publix.

Like, it's out.

Is this?

Are you a part of this?

I'm a part of it.

I'm an ambassador of Real Tea.

Okay.

Let's go, Jameis.

Out there.

Good for you, man.

Keep killing it.

We can't thank you enough. Ladies and gentlemen, maybe the quarterback of the future.
Ten-year vet, ladies and gentlemen, Jameis Winston. Thank you, Jameis.
Yeah, it's good. Clean that.
Good cardigan. Look great.
Great cardigan. That's ostrich.
You're right. It's ostrich.
Hey, you look awesome. Ostrich.
Yeah, it is. You're good.
It's not. It's got to be a lizard.
Pat and I own a lot of boots. The ostrich is the ones that have, like, the little bumps on them.

Duh.

Welcome back, A.K.

A.K.

She's trying to make you feel comfortable.

I'm 100% sure there's a snake.

I think for everything that I've learned, you know, I was giving him an excuse about the snake dying in his sleep, right?

Remember, live a long life.

He didn't kill that snake for those boots.

That thing had a great life. This is an ostrich.
All right. What a leader.
Did you hear what he said? Uh-uh. It's all about the trenches.
Yeah. It did.
Yeah, but. You don't believe that.
You don't believe that. You don't believe that.
Well, when we get to the picks. We'll see.
All right. Oh, you're back on the wagon.
We will see what we believe. You're back on the wagon.
Good for you. AQ, what have you taken away from today's program thus far? Anything important? The governor's awesome.
Jameis was awesome. I forgot about the governor.
He was unbelievable. I completely forgot about the governor.
He was right over here. How about the two stateies? Ari.
Ari Emanuel was stacked. Pretty cool.
His pants were perfect. Yeah, and then you see, yeah.
I mean, that guy, every single day, same life. Same.
Doesn't matter where he is. We're rolling.
We're in a cold tub. We're in a hot tub.
We're in a Fred sauna. Oh, he's rolling? Dude, yeah, he's rolling on a ball.
That ball. Oh, I thought you meant like rolling like jujitsu.
Oh, he might be. I mean, probably.
I mean, that would make a lot of sense. Like Molly.
It has been a big day. Dan Marino.
Miami needs to get more Pittsburgh guys. That's what I gathered.
Tougher. And with that being said, ladies and gentlemen, final guest of this particular hour, a man who has a Sphere show coming to Las Vegas.
A man who has hosted so many summer parties.

His name is synonymous with the season.

Ladies and gentlemen, Kenny Chesney.

Wow!

Kenny!

Holy hell!

Holy hell!

What's up, man?

Thank you, baby.

Wow!

Holy shit!

Good to see you.

Kenny Chesney.

What's up, Kenny?

How are you?

Holy hell.

Kenny!

Always.

Ha ha ha!

Bam!

Thank you for coming.

Thank you. Kenny Chesney, too.
Kenny Chesney. What's up, Kenny? How are you? Holy hell.
Kenny. Always.
Thank you for coming. Hey, I'm great.
Good to see you, guys. Kenny Chesney's here.
The GOAT. Holy shit.
The GOAT. There you go, Kenny.
Holy hell. Kenny Chesney's here.
Look how jacked you are. That's that time of year.
Hey, good to see you, Kenny. Good to see you, guys.
Good to see you, Kenny. Okay, Kenny.
The Sphere announcement is gigantic. We obviously have all gone to Kenny Chesney concerts across cities across America every single summer.
Your name, I've told you this numerous times, being synonymous with summer is just such a cool thing. Jimmy Buffett had it for a very long time.
Feels like you are the one that's bringing the summer festival from town to town. Now you're doing the Sphere here and how excited are you for that and what's that going to look like? I'm very excited just because it's new.
We've been out there a while and for the people that have come to our shows over the years and live with this music for a while, they're going to get to experience it in a completely different state of consciousness. It's.
And we're looking forward to it. We're in rehearsals right now.
We are creating content as we speak and it's not going to be long until we start two-a-day practices, if you know what I mean. We're close.
Boys will fall. Yeah, we're close.
Boys will fall. AJ has a question for you, Kenny.
Kenny, I watch these artists run on treadmills and sing, I assume you've gone out of time. Do you ever do that getting ready for a tour? Yeah, but when it gets close.
Really? You know, yeah, because I just get my lungs ready, you know, it's one thing, if I just stood still, look, my mom has video footage of me in my grandmother's kitchen as a child listening to music, and I just move. Oh, yeah.
So that's just the way it is. is so when you got the band i got and you go up there on stage and you feel all that energy on stage it's insane about how much it takes of me lung capacity to do my shit yeah but your actions are leading everybody else out there too you know because when you're sweating your ass off everybody else with the sphere though and be able to move this to move? The stage feels, I guess we were up high, but can you move like you want to? It's a version of what we do.
It's not the same thing. Because when we're in a stadium, it goes a long way.
And I'm going back and forth all night. Hell yeah, gassers.
That's right. Running gassers.
Suicides, whatever they call it. But in Sphere, it's going to be a smaller version of it.

But, yeah, I've got my space.

Okay.

And we'll see.

We're in rehearsals, like I said, now, but we won't really know until we get in there.

Yeah.

You know, so that's going to be sometime in May when we can start rehearsals.

I can't wait for the experience. Thank you, man.

Yes.

Yeah.

You know, you said a different stream of consciousness.

I've only been in the Sphere in one particular consciousness.

And I think for your concert, it's going to be the right one to be in. So I can't wait to experience it.
We're looking forward to it. D-Butter, there's a question for you.
We were in there. We had an experience.
We won't say what performer or performers it was, but some of the guys were disappointed with some of the songs that they played. With the catalog you have of so many bangers, how do you pick what's going to be on the track list and what city or what uh performance well i think that you can ask anybody in my road family we're not a big believer well we will do some songs just because of the space that we don't normally do like in a stadium environment just because of the way it's built and we can it's more of an experience than it is an energy thing but that being said I've never been one to do a bunch of deep cuts.

Because when you start doing deep cuts, everybody starts checking their phones.

You got Bono's number?

You should tell that.

I'll let you know.

I didn't say that.

We are telling you.

We are telling you.

We are telling you.

We assume it would have been a great show if they would have played all their hits.

I think I, who's a, hey, I like U2's music. There's a couple songs I certainly love.
Same way. For sure.
Whenever I went there, I think it was for their people, super their people. But it was Super Bowl week, so a lot of people were in town.
Nonetheless, I didn't know any of the songs, but I thought the sphere was very cool, if you will. I.
I'm excited to see how much you, and then there's like rattling and shit that's happening through it all.

Yeah, there's a lot going on. But still, I mean, people still, when they come to your show, I mean, they want to hear the music they live with.

For me, when I go see somebody's show, which has been a while, but when I go see, let's say if I go see Bruce, Bruce Springsteen.

I mean, I want to hear Born to Run. Yeah.
Have hear. Have to.
So I would be disappointed if I didn't. Well, you know, when I go, I want to hear my tractor.
She thinks my tractor is sick. Do you have to hear that one? We're talking about that again.
Sorry we had to bring that back. Yeah, that's okay.
Tone has a question for you, Kenny. Yeah, when we were in the sphere the first time, it's a lot.
Did you go and scout and see other people's shows in there to know its capabilities and stuff? I haven't seen a show there, but we've been planning to do this since last April, even before we did last year's tour. But I went to see about 30 minutes of U2's set that they had it filmed, and it was as if they were really there.
And I had my team with me, and I looked at them and I went, there's no way we're not not doing this. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, because it was just so different for me. Yeah.
You know, and I've been doing it a minute, and I wanted to take my audience and my friends and people that I know and love on a journey with me. And so, yeah, the answer to your question, or your question, we're going to play a long time.
We've been blessed with a pretty big catalog, and we're going to play for a while. We're going to do a lot of songs that people know.
A few that they don't. We're going to do a few deep cuts, but not a lot.
Yeah, but whenever you put out new albums, you create new bangers. Yep.
I assume that list gets harder to put together every single time. Are you touring

as well or just Sphere?

Not just Sphere, but you get it.

Yeah, I'm doing that because all of our energy is

going towards making that great. We're going

to play a couple months and then I'm actually

going to take some time to

live a little and I'm going

to, you know,

the next fall I'm going to actually go to some football

games. Wow!

Living! Patriots! Yes! Braves! to, you know, the next fall, I'm going to actually go to some football games. Wow.
Boom.

Living.

Patriots.

Yeah.

Same fast.

Braves.

We got Braves.

All right.

We are wrapping up here on ESPN.

We'll continue on YouTube, ESPN+, Disney+, and TikTok Live.

The Super Bowl is on Sunday.

We'll overreact on Monday.

Be a friend.

Tell a friend something nice.

It might change their life.

Have a great weekend.

Completely forgot it was Friday. Yeah.
friend. Tell a friend something nice that might change their life.
Have a great weekend. Completely forgot it was

Friday. Yeah.
Easy to.

Until I was talking there. Crazy.
Oh, we don't have another

show until the Super Bowl and this entire thing.

You're in town, obviously.

We are thankful we get to chat with you every single Super Bowl

week. I'm thankful.
Zeno's

telling me there's a book.

Hold on. You wrote a book?

I'm in the process of finishing it. You wrote a book? I never said that.
Congratulations. Oh, there it is.
Hey, congratulations. Thank you, thank you.
No problem. Yeah, I've had a unique journey so far, and I felt like it was time to – it's not a memoir.
I don't want to go there, but I felt like I just – I've had such a unique journey on the road and off the road and just creatively and all kinds of stuff. I felt like it was time to do it while it fits in between the front cover and the back cover.
Yeah, absolutely. Are you reading it for the audio book? I have to read it.
Yeah. I'm writing it with this girl, Holly Gleason, who's been a part of my life for a long time.
She's been a part of my journey. And this has been something we've been working on for a while.
And it's really, I've never wanted to write a book because I don't love talking about myself that much. I'd rather write songs and make records based on y'all's lives.
You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. To find commonality like that.
So to write a book and then have to read all the chapters, it's really interesting. Yeah, well, congratulations.
Thank you, man. It's a massive decision.
It's also a massive amount of task at hand to finish a book yeah i'm excited to read it brother and you say you hate talking about yourself but at this stage you're a goat dude so a lot of people find inspiration and i assume people will be able to get some knowledge you know i was a kid in east tennessee that grew up in the country that loved tennessee football and that's all we had and i had a big dream in my head and i loved music more than anything. And if there's some kid out there in the world that could learn something from my journey, this is one of the reasons I wanted to write the book.
Hell yeah. Is there a chapter in there about Tennessee coming up to the north and getting their asses beat? Oh! It should be.
That was rude. I love Typo's team.
I love Typo's team. Me too.
They did get rinsed. Iamaleava.
They did get rinsava. Nico Iamaleava.
I think he showed a lot of toughness on that night. I don't think people fully understand how cold it was and how many hits he was taking.
I love the Tennessee team. Two of them, I think.
Cracked two of his helmets. I love the Tennessee team.
I think they're about a year out or whatever the case is. But that Ohio State team, that was like I think when we all realized, like, hold on, this might be real deal here and they would inevitably be that they got a i don't want to say they got a bad draw but usually when you play the test when you play the ncaa basketball tournament the best team plays the worst team and kind of goes to there right it wasn't that way with football when i wonder why oh so it was all it was all you got the memo huh the seating's bullshit seating was weird like seeding was weird.
I think Oregon got screwed. Oregon should have played the worst team, and Ohio State played the second worst team.
But no. Yeah, there was a lot of conversation.
It was really interesting. I think they're going to adjust that.
Have to. I think from what they're saying.
I think if you speak up about it, maybe make a song about it. Oh, there we go.
Did you see the college football playoff song? Yeah, I already got a song. There's already a song? Oh, man.
It's really good. Did you write it? I can only dream.
I can only dream of piecing that together. More schools get a shot to shine.
More teams and a lot more fun. Starting with 12, down down to one.
That's how we crown a CFP National Champion. Yeah, we remember.
Video's really good. I just want to ask if you did a video.
This is not our song. This is the actual song.
Hold on. Kenny, congratulations.
You have lived a long life in this music world.

You have never, and I can't stress this enough,

never heard a fucking heater like this.

This was to promote the 12- more games and a lot more fun. Starting with 12, counting down to one.
That's how we crown a CFP National champion. That's how we crown a CFP National champion.
You think it's over. It's not.
Just getting started. Conference champs keep the dream alive.
One, two, four, get a first round by Five to eight, close nine to twelve Here's what you're talking about. Winners move on and the crowd's all yell Quarterfinals, New Year's six Bowls on a rotating basis Be your all-time favorite team Somebody new bursting on the scene I mean, it is hooky.
It is hooky. All right, you can stop it.
We ran that when that first came out. I think I ran it five times in a row.
And you say hooky, we're still singing it. It's hooky.
We're still singing it. Love that song.
Okay, there's a chance. Now, that legitimately is not ours.
That was ESPN created that to market the 12-team playoff because they wanted it to be educational in there and the whole thing. Some people were saying, and I know there was humans behind it, so I don't want to discredit them, but some people would say, maybe AI made that.
Like, hey, you punch in the information. Maybe AI could create that song or help create that song, whatever the case is.
How is the music world, from your perspective, with AI coming into it? Because I think I heard Timbaland, who is a producer, obviously, his message now is like DJs need to start like learning how to work with AI as opposed to trying to fight against AI. In the music world, have you thought about this at all? And what are your thoughts on it as a whole? Well, I think it's a big change, right? It's a big change.
And I think it's a slippery slope okay honestly but i'm but but i'm a creative person if i didn't write my own songs i might have i don't write all of my own songs but if i'm if i wasn't a creative person i might feel differently but for someone that's really creative and has been that way his whole adult life it bothers me a little because it might hinder it a little. Because it's just, yeah.
It might go in the direction of what the AI is pointing you. Right.
I don't know. It's just, it's, it's, it's, I just think it's a very slippery slope, and I don't know, I don't know, I don't have an opinion yet.
But I know that it's, if you're, uh, if you're creative, and you've been doing it a certain way for a long time, it's, it's, I don't know. It just takes the creativeness out of it for me.
Okay. I got it.
That's the only, that's the only negative thing for me. Now you have a hall of fame career that is already behind you.
And I assume you're only going to continue to make bangers, but like there's people that are only going to be in the AI music. Yeah.
Yeah. The whole thing.
I'm excited to see how it ends up working out. Go ahead, Conman.

Yeah, as one of country music's greatest stars ever,

what do you think about the idea

that you have to cut your teeth in Nashville?

Do you feel like it's necessary to go to Nashville

and then kind of go from there,

or do you think that's changed as well?

I mean, if you're creative,

the Nashville that I moved to

is a very wonderful, beautiful, creative space.

And so that's why it was great for me.

Now, if you don't write songs,

I mean, I do feel like that you have to work

I'm going to make it because you feel entitled to is not right. I mean, you have to, you have to get really good at what you do.
And, but I don't think it's that, that important that you have to have obviously have connections obviously have connections, but you know, I think if you want to be a singer songwriter like I was, it does help to be in the mix. That area.
Yeah, I mean, we all know and love Willie Nelson. I mean, he moved to Nashville and then moved out because it didn't work.
He moved to Austin, and that's when his career took off. It's crazy.
How do you feel about the country music world we're in right now?

Everything's country.

Yeah.

Well, that's the thing.

For people to say they don't love country music right now,

it just means they haven't been exposed to all of it.

Yeah.

Because now more than ever, there's something for everyone.

And there's old heads, I assume, in the country world. I can just only imagine because I know in the music that we listened to growing up, they would have the same exact feeling about like, that ain't whatever.
That ain't, that ain't. Oh, look, they said the same thing about me.
Yeah, but I'm saying like there was that for a long time. Right now it feels like it is a little bit more of a.
It's pretty open. I mean, it really is.
And I think that's a product of how people consume music. You know, because when I grew up, you either had the country station or the rock station, what we now know and love as classic rock, right? But so you had to choose.
Now with all the streaming services and everything, you can listen to anything, anywhere in the world, anytime you want it. So it's all, it's, yeah, the genre's there, and there are different genres, but people consume music much differently than they did when I was listening to it.
What'd they say? They said your stuff wasn't country? You said they said? Yeah, of course. I mean, they had a few two guitars in it.
Two few guitars? I mean, too many guitars in it. Gotcha.
Or it was... That's pretty...
Yeah, that sounds like all vocals to me. Yeah.
Are you sure you didn't sing that song? I know. Yeah, right? Yeah.
I have a couple times. Pretty intoxicated.
It is your concert. It's kind of how it goes.
Ty, here's the last question for you here, Kenny. Have you thought at all about for the Sphere show how different that's going to be doing just the same venue night after night after night, same show? How much different will that be than going on a tour? Because obviously the set list may stay the same, but you're in new venues, seeing new people.
Yeah, the set list will change a little bit at Sphere. But for me, I mean, it's like I don't gamble, right? You shouldn't hear.
And I don't do clubs. And I haven't had alcohol in a long time.
And I don't pay for stuff, right? And so extracurricular activities if you know what i mean yeah so yeah sure sure sure so that's a lot that takes a lot of vegas out you know so i gotta i'm gonna have to go to top golf a lot you're describing all the things in vegas that you would have to check off the box to distract yes so i'll be getting a lot you know i I'll be working out a lot. You know, my friend Dan Mullen got the job at UNLV.
Yeah, how about that? And he's going to let us come work out at UNLV's facility, he said. So we're going to be over there a lot.
So I stay out of trouble. Okay.
But as far as the show is concerned. Yeah, but are you going to get bored? I'm really afraid.
No, I won't get bored. It's very great.
Like Michael Cole, a friend of mine, friend of ours, he's been in WWE for 28 years. He's been on the road for like 28 years.
He's missed three shows. He says he's going to go, I can't wait to retire in my ranch and just stay there.
He's going to get Sturkratz. Oh, gosh.
He's going to get Sturkratz because he needs to be moving. I feel like you've been on tour for so long.
Well, speaking of Willie Nelson, he wrote a song once called Still is Still Moving to Me, you know, because he's being gone. He's constantly moving, and I feel like I'm a bit like a shark.
Like, it's got to slowly, constantly move. Moving.
Yeah, or it'll die. And I feel like I got a little bit of that in me.
So you're going to be at the Sphere then for how many nights? Right now we're on sale for 15 nights, which means we're going to be there two months. We'll figure it out.
I'll probably go in and out from there. I've got a good core group of workout guys in Malibu.
You've got to move though. I'm saying you've got to move.
I think people do get stir-crazy. Residencies.
I think people do residencies. I'll get bored, bored, bored.
There's only so much streaming things you can watch. Bingo.
All right, well, keep going. We appreciate the hell out of you.
Love you, brother. Thanks for having me.
Appreciate you, fellas. Good luck with the book.
Good luck with Sphere. I can't wait to see you out there.
Keep going, brother. You look younger than ever.
Ladies and gentlemen, Kenny Chesney. Kenny! That was a good clean dap.
That was a good clean dap right there with AJ. Clean J's.
He's always jacked. He's always super jacked.
Sober. Yeah, he's locked in.
That would be a six-sphere show. I think so.
Think about the ship. It'll be awesome.
As he was talking, giving his answer, I was just thinking about there's going to be a beach, there's going to be breezes that come through there. There's going to be probably a ship.
There's going to be some night. I mean, it's going to be.
Oh, yeah. Pirate action, maybe.
Yeah. I didn't even think about a pirate coming in.
Pirate. Pirate.
Exactly. Radio.
Radio. Oh, my God.
Just being at, like, a beach bar down in Margaritaville. That's.
I've looked back on the U2 show, and I've thought to myself. Yeah.
They were playing that for their fans. Without a doubt.
I don't know if they were. Their whole show was set probably before they thought about the Super Bowl being there.
Yeah, probably didn't even know the Super Bowl. We were with one of the biggest U2 fans in the history of U2.
Foss did say U2 is his favorite fan and he was like, he might have been inspired by how we were feeling about it. Yeah, but if you're a diehard U2 fan, like you said, I feel like that was your show because no one else who was there for the Super Bowl who maybe knows, like, four or five U2 songs, like, none of us had a good time, you know? That terrible time.
Ladies and gentlemen, A.K. Shipley's.
Bruce had a good time. Thank you.
Baby, Ship. Bruce fell asleep.

Is that what you did, Bruce?

You fell asleep at that thing?

I was getting nauseous from all the action.

What about all the words?

Yeah, all the words.

That was it.

I said, you know what?

I can't look it up at this anymore.

Bad, bad words.

All the bad words.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Terrible ones.

Great performance from Bruce today.

What did he do today?

What do you mean? His announcement. Five minutes? Oh, yeah.
Long time. Hey, performance from Bruce today.
What did he do today? What do you mean? His announcement.

Five minutes?

Oh, yeah.

Long time.

Hey, I'm proud of you.

Thank you.

Appreciate it.

Great season, boys.

But I will say, just like Nick Saban said,

you can't change anything going into the biggest game.

Because if you could do something better,

why didn't you do it at the beginning of the season?

Sure. Could have been a better year.
Now that we know what's possible with the five minute, did you see today? Fucking hit the drum. It's crazy.
Did a full spit. Oh, you have to.
Oh, yeah. Full presentation.
That was great work, Bruce. We still got a big overreaction Monday.
We'll be bringing it. Still bringing it.
Anthony Calhoun walking by. Indianapolis sports news legend.
AC. AC, good to see you, buddy.
Hell yeah, AC. Right behind a white guy that was just on camera there.
We do not know. Good to see a white guy on camera there.
Yeah, cool white guy. Young Saints fan on camera there.
All right, good to see you.

Thanks for hanging out over here.

All right, we're going to take a break.

Hey, Q, what did you learn there from?

I mean, the fact that he's sober is kind of crazy going to Vegas.

That's quite the temptation.

Yeah, but that's good.

That's a good thing.

Go to Topgolf.

That's your first takeaway.

Not that his book's going to be awesome. What are you going to do for fun out there?

I mean.

Not paying for.

Can't go to casinos.

Can't drink.

Can't go to any of the fun extracurricular.

I mean.

That was wild.

Go to Topgolf.

That sounds fun.

Topgolf is great.

It's great.

Topgolf is a great time.

Every night, AQ.

Every night.

The more you hang out with this guy, the more you realize karma is not a real thing. Well, that's what Nick says, too.
Everybody that's around you says that. Why does everyone say that? I don't know.
I don't know. Something you should think about, though.
Something you should think about. Tucks the table over there wearing your titles.
Boys, how's it going? Comfortable? Fantastic. Yeah.
Unbelievably comfortable. I feel really good.
It's almost like a back brace because this couch, it's very easy to sink into. You're right.
So that's kind of propping you up. To be clear, yeah, I feel like a dead body.
It's almost holding me in place. Those are WWE titles available now at WWE show.
Does this mean you guys? I don't know. Maybe.
You can read into it how you'd like. There's a chance.
I mean, I've switched twice since this show started.

Really?

Yeah, dead serious.

Me too.

We've all done that.

How about after Jameis does his thing?

Yeah.

How do you take that into consideration?

He broke the game down incredibly.

The bunch that the Chiefs can do.

The Eagles.

And Travis can.

Yeah.

Wide open.

He's sitting in that zone.

Masked zone.

Sky, sky, sky. Good shit.
You know the check? D-Buddy does it. Yeah.
Yeah, what was that all about? D-Buddy a couple times. What? Why were you guys doing that to us? You and Jameis.
That's my guy. That's my guy, too.
No, because he's a DB. That was a Sky.
I mean, Jeff Landry just said, hey, you guys remember Nebraska, now fuck you.

That did happen right here.

Where to get the best gator?

My house.

I'll send you some.

Come on over.

Governor and Mrs. Governor,

First Lady, make the best gator in town.

Fry gator, grill gator.

Fresh gator. Don't really matter what kind of gator.
You need to come home for gator with me. Could you imagine going out with Governor Jeff Landry? It's a dream.
Add it to the list. Is it one of those fan boats? Yeah.
Yeah, and it says Jeff Landry on the side. The full boot.
We're definitely flanked by Stadies, too. And he's he's blasting music.
Oh, my God. Blasting music.
Because of how loud that fan is. That's going to have to be so loud.
So loud. No way, because the Gators will hear it.
No, he's probably playing Gator music. Yeah.
To bring them in. What are they? Because Florida Gators, they listen to Tom Petty, right? They do.
Yeah. So is that what the Gators do? I think most Gators do.
Tom Petty.

That's a good, when they sing down there.

Yeah, sweet.

That's a good, all these colleges have sweet things. Yeah, they do.

LSU is the most.

It's the best.

Most wild.

Yeah, it is.

By far.

But after hearing Governor Jeff Landry, I can see that, you know, that it fits in.

If I don't do the chant, I'm disrespecting this place.

Exactly.

Because there's a lot of conversations about how many times I led a couple thousand people into saying something on TV. It's like, hey, I don't create the tradition.
We're trying to experience it, right? I want to tell you they're in on it. Yeah, they are.
This is their thing. They would like to win, though, again, LSU.
Yeah. How about the Saints? All we're talking about with the Saints is they're just set up for a couple years worth of...
Yeah. Shite.
Kelly Moe, though. Sean Payton was able to do it with some shite setup.
He was. Need quarterback.
Bad. Need a quarterback.
What else did we learn today? Ari's like, ah, the Bears got a sale now, huh? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
He knows about their tax situation. He's buying the Bears.
That's what I'm about. He's definitely.
What are you guys saying? I'm hearing eight to ten billion? Yeah.

There's a tax situation, though.

There's a tax situation.

Let's design the will.

Dude, he's always.

He is always.

Every conversation with him is, I already know.

And then he hates it.

Yeah.

And then I'll get a call back with the person on the other side.

I'll be like, hey, I think there's an opportunity for, oh, you are so smart, aren't you?

Hold on.

Actually chime somebody in. Could be anybody.
Anybody you've ever heard of. What was I telling you? Tell them.
Please. This is on a FaceTime with two faces of people.
And then they lay out about, ant, ant, ant, ant. He's on the bottom of the screen.
Tell them. They lay it up.
He goes, I fucking know everything. Okay? Just let me do my shit.
I'm like, maybe. All right, maybe.
All right. And then we hang up.
He's awesome. That was another thing I learned.
Like, we started going down some of his clients. Yeah.
Larry David. Everybody.
Seth MacFarlane. Scorsese does what Scorsese wants.
I look period. Everybody kept saying to him, like, yeah, I assume those guys do what they want to do.
Seth MacFarlane. Yes.
Think about MacFarlane. That guy.
All those guys created their own shows. Super talents.
Yeah. Tyler Perry is worth billions.
A lot of money. Never would have thought Larry David does what he wants to do.
That was a great show. Yeah.

Both of them.

All right, let's get to a break.

Last hour, we'll make our picks, and we'll get the hell out of here.

Big afternoon down here in New Orleans.

That's right.

A lot of meetings, a lot of handshakes.

A lot of panels.

What?

Yeah.

That should be great.

Any parties?

I don't know about this.

Any parties?

Yeah, we didn't invite any parties this week?

Yeah, what's going on? What was that all about? Why didn't we get invited to any parties this week? We got invited to no parties this week. The media one? Yeah, but that's just a handout.
That's a handout invite. It's a handout.
NFLPA, we got invited. We could have went to the NFLPA one.
Really? Okay. Any others? Fanatics? We got invited in.
Alex, I remember we did the whole thing. Yeah, they screwed us too many times.
Okay. Yeah.
Any others? Fanatics? You guys. You get invited in? Alex, I remember we did the whole thing.

Yeah. Yeah, they screwed us too many times.

Okay.

Well said.

So.

Not that one.

Any others?

The New Heights one.

Wait, they had a party?

No.

They didn't.

They didn't have a party.

We would have gotten invited.

Definitely would have gotten.

You've been on New Heights.

Yeah.

We talk about New Heights, Jason's show.

Travis comes on all the time.

All the time.

I'm sorry. They didn't.
They didn't have a party. We would have gotten invited.
Definitely would have gotten. You've been on New Heights.
We talk about New Heights, Jason's show. Travis comes on all the time.
All the time. They didn't have a party.
I don't think they did. We did not get invited if they did.
Wow. You got to be shitting me.
Boys, we got more to do. Keep your friends close, they say.
Yeah, but not close enough to be in there. Yeah.
Flavor Flavor. Is that the party? Dan's here.
Dan? Dan O? Dan. Dan Rue, I believe.
Dan Mullin? Dan Mullin? Hold on one second. I need to get the proper intro.
Hold on. Yeah, I need to get the proper intro.
Hold on. Hold on.
I don't want to fuck this up. Okay.
It's going to wiggle. Like that.
Ladies and gentlemen, I just want to make sure I have this right. This is Dancing Dan.
Okay? Hell yeah. This is Dan Rue.
Oh, we know. Okay, we have seen his work on the internet.
His knees have WD-40 literally oozing through him. One of the smoothest athletes.
Good to see you. God, it's good to see you.
Elvis. What you're able to do with your hips and knees, sir, are obviously legendary.
And you can follow along at Dan at Dan Rue on Instagram. How about this, Dan?

If you make one shot here, we will give 50 people $500 who repost this video,

say something nice to somebody, and put the easiest way to pay them.

They'll be saying, wow, that Dancin Dan, that guy with those smooth-ass knees.

Good God.

What a hero he is.

What's that?

Wherever you want.

Does that feel like a good shot?

Does it feel makeable while also being slightly difficult?

Yeah.

Yes, it does.

50.

Oh, my God.

Hold on.

Okay.

Dan, Dan.

Dan, Dan.

Dan, Dan.

Dan, Dan, it's slick.

It's slick.

It's light.

It's light.

It's slick. Yeah, light.
It's slick.

Yeah, now you know the ball.

Now you know the game.

Now you know the game.

This is Dancing Dan, Dan Rue.

50 people.

There it is.

$500.

I feel like he hustled us.

That was awesome.

That was unbelievable.

Thank you for doing that.

Wow.

He was just messing around.

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Hit him. Drag racing.
What's that? You're driving? Yeah. Okay.
Alright, so, holy shit. Athlete.
What are you driving? Over 2,000 horsepower GTR. GTRs.
Are you building them? Yes, shop. Okay, so you have a shop as well.
Yeah, in Texas. Okay, we doing pink slips or we going for like

actual? Not my car, I'm not a

driver. I'm just saying what your day-to-day

is, what your day-to-day is. You said

2,000 horsepower GTR? Yeah, the shop

Houston built it for me.

Makes 2,400 actually,

but yeah. Who are you racing? What type of cars are you racing

against? What are other people driving? Other things,

Vipers, Lamborghinis, Vets,

doesn't matter. Good for you, dude.
You've absolutely crushed it on the internet. We've appreciated watching you do your shit.
Thank you. Legit.
I'm back to it this year. That's all.
Come on. Come on.
Come on. Hey.
Hey. Hey.
Hey. Hey.
We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, dancing.
Dan. Hell yeah.
Dan. Big old balls.
Yep. Big old balls.
Yep. All right.
Yep. Got to carry it out of there.
Just 150 people. A lot A lot of horsepower.
Dude, a lot of horsepower. Holy shit.
That back end is out of that thing. Good for you, Dan.
Thank you, man. 50 people, $500.
You see those knees? Good knees. Great knees.
It is. That's like Elvis 2.0.
I don't know if Elvis had those knees. He hit the hips.
He hit the hips. He hit the hips.
I don't know about. Was that? He had it all.
Maybe not in his later days when he gained a little bit of weight, but early on, yeah. He got comfortable.
Yeah, he did. That's right.
He was out dog. After he got screwed by his agent.
I watched a... Old buddy was taking all his money.
Speaking of AJ, I think he wanted to be an FBI agent, I believe. I watched a movie.
He brought a gun, right? I don't know. I know he just started eating a President's peanut butter M&M's or peanut M&M's, though.
He was supposed to do that. I don't know.
I guess Elvis just used a lift. Yep, there he is.
Which one's that? Nixon. Nixon.
Big Nixon, yeah. I'm not a crook.
So Elvis thought he was going to the White House to become a federal agent. And Nixon thought Elvis was coming to take a picture so he could up his youth vote.
So both of their teams met with the other people individually beforehand and laid out rules. So like President Nixon's team goes up to Elvis's team and goes, all right, don't put your feet on the desk.
The peanut M&Ms are his. Obviously, you let him have those.
The other snacks will be for you. And then, like, the

water is this whole thing. And then Elvis'

team is telling the president's team, all right,

here's how the king wants it.

The king wants this. Address him as the king.

And then neither of them would tell them, right? Neither of them

would tell them who they were. So as soon as they sit

down, Elvis' feet right up on the thing

grabs the peanut M&M's. Then he

finds out through the conversation that he's just being used

for a photo. So then it's like, this is how the movie depicted it.
And then anyways, Elvis became a federal agent at the end of the entire thing. Yeah.
And that was like why he was the way he was. Imagine.
That's like at the end of his life, I think he was like chasing, trying to be. It was.
I learned a lot about him. Yeah.
That guy loved wearing gold. Yeah, he did.
No doubt. I mean, he loved.
Yeah. He had the sauce.
He did have the sauce. Elvis had the sauce.
Yeah, big time. He did.
Too much, maybe, sometimes. But that's easy come, easy go, they say.
That's right. Anyways, Governor Jeff LaHendry, that guy's going to run for president.
Yeah, I hope so. President of the world.
He's got my vote. I think that was a good appearance for him.
Yeah. Yeah.

Incredible.

I think his people walk out of there going, Mr. Governor?

I mean, come on.

Fuck it.

Yeah, Governor, that's a big win.

Let's go get you some grilled gator.

You off with hunting?

You commented about being undefeated against Peter?

Mm-hmm.

You said we love our people here?

We do?

Everything about a home run.

Mr. Governor, what a time.
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And this Sunday, our champion is crowned. Will it be the Kansas City Chiefs, and will it be a three-peat? Or will it be the Philadelphia Eagles getting over the hump that is Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl?

Nick Sirianni, the head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles, has been called a big dumb dipshit all season long.

Even after they started running away with either the division or potential great seeding in the playoffs,

people continue to say, well, this guy's a liability.

They're not going to be able to win because this head coach is a uh big dumb dipshit now they're in the super bowl and on the other side it's a team that is back-to-back super bowl champions back-to-back the best in the world they would secure the number one seed in the afc two weeks before the season had ended they had the best record football, and all anybody kept saying about them all season long was that they were playing... Like hammered dog shit? They said this offense is nowhere near what it could be.
They look like they're playing like... Absolute shite.
The defense, yeah, they're keeping them in the games, but there's no way this team is anywhere near as good as last year's team or the year before that. This is the Kansas City Chiefs team that isn't going to win because this team, although they're winning and beating everybody, they're actually...
Shite. That's not the case at all.
They're in the Super Bowl. They're potentially going to be three-time, three-peating world champs, which has never been done before.
And all anybody wanted to say about both these teams is that they stink. They're either led by a loser or they are losers this year when they used to be winners.
So you've got a lot of motivation. You've got a lot of conversation.
And you've got a lot of great football for at least four quarters on Sunday. And then after that, boys, the well-run dry.
Oh, no. Okay? We're watching other sports.
Oh, no. We're caring about other sports.
We're talking about drama. We're talking about the draft.
We're talking about players. We're talking about teams.
We're talking about drama. We're talking about storylines.
But for one more hour here, we're talking about football. Hell, yeah.
You have to be playing. Talks to tables here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt.
One half of the hammer. Done.
Cowboys AP Tone is here. Did you guys get it right last night with the awards as a representative of the Associated Press? I did.
Some people didn't. But personally, I could put my head down at night and sleep easy knowing I got it right.
Good job, Tony. Way to go, Tony.
Oh, yeah, Tony. You're the only one that had Van Genke.
I was the only one that had Van Genke as Defensive Player of year. You know, he was top eight in sacks, top five in TFLs.
He had the most tackles as an edge. He had two pick sixes, which obviously led edges in that category.
I thought he was just all around incredible. It was one of the weirdest, not weirdest, but like toughest defensive player of the years in a long time because there were just so many ways.
I had Pat Sertan as my third just because I'm an edge guy. So that's just how I live.
Let's go to host of everything DB, good D, bad D, Darius J. Butler, a corner wins Defensive Player of the Year.
Congratulations to the position. Love that.
Son of a Louisiana legend, Pat Sertan, also a Dolphins legend. So great to see him.
He was on one of the best defensively. He was actually locked down.
He was the all-around best corner in the league, I think, by far, easily, hands down. You got him and Derek Sweeney-Juney, but he was on the Everything DB team, of course, and now he joins a very, very short list of cornerbacks to win this award.
You got C. Wood, your former teammate, Rod Woodson, Mel Blunt.
I think still have had had two corners. Stephon Gilmore, Dion.
Revis, everyone? Building his legacy. Ooh, I don't think Revis won it.
Interesting. That's wild.
That Revis Island year, I don't think he won it. Champ Bailey, I don't think he won it either.
He had an unbelievable year as well, but I don't think. Well, because if you're like a great corner, you're not getting a lot of action.
Yep. Right? And if you're, yeah, you're not getting a lot of action.
Even if through the year you blow up, they're going to start sticking away from you. So the action has to come to you for you to do great.
Is that why you think corners not normally getting – And it's hard to – like you can't just look at a stat sheet and know it. Like you can know Jamar Chase or if a quarterback or Saquon Barkley, if one of these guys have a great game just looking at the box score.
Just very much like offensive linemen. You don't really know unless you know, unless you're a guy who's getting, you know, Sante Samma getting 10, 11 picks a year.
So he's had ball production. He follows the more receivers.
He shows up in the run game. He does everything you want to do with that cornerback position.
He's a defense player. Hell yeah.
Good for him. Good for him.
Super Bowl champion A.J. Hawk is here.
AJ, is the palpable buzz that we are feeling around us as old friends gather and new friends file in into this place,

does it make you go back to the time when you won the Super Bowl, A.J.?

Do you want to put the pads on one last time?

Is this one of those games where you think to yourself,

oh, I wish I had one more game in me?

Can you feel that energy radiating through the city?

Yeah, I can feel that sarcastic energy radiating through my bones.

But, yeah, I think any time, not just me, not just you guys as former players,

I mean, D, but you know, we know you and Jameis have been on the same wavelength

for a while.

Like, you know, any time you're around the Super Bowl,

I remember being a little kid watching the Super Bowl thinking,

hell, I want to put my pads on and play right now.

So I don't think that goes away for really anybody in America. Yeah, I think it's the big one, you know, and everybody's here.
We talked to Governor Jeff Langer earlier. He talked about the world, you know, seeing even more of New Orleans, especially with what just happened, you know, last month to start the new year here.
It's like they're very proud of it. It's awesome.
And the Super Bowl is always going to live up to the hype. AQ Shipley, you think the game's going to be a great one? We have flip-flopped, all of us, numerous times.
The game has become a pick-em, basically, on ESPN Bet. Both teams, minus 110 on the money line, which is the same exact odds for either team to win.
So, that's a point toss. Chiefs still favored by one, though, if you want to take the points.
Last time I checked, yeah. But it's still – it's basically a pick-em in this.
What is the last thing we should think about before we make our pick? I think the biggest thing that you have to always take into account when this game happens with the Kansas City Chiefs is the triangle between Spags, Reed, Mahomes. You just always have to play that in your mind.
I think there's so many people here that think the Eagles are the team, and they, on paper, are the team. But those three guys are special.
Okay. Thanks for the sage words of advice.
Before we make our picks, ladies and gentlemen, we have some Gator. What? There's some Gator.
I believe there's some Gator. Gator? Where? I believe there's some gator.
Gator. We got some gator.
Okay. Oh, gator bot.
Oh, gator bot. Thank you, Bruce.
One of my favorite ways to eat gator. Louisiana fish fry.
Wow. Louisiana fish fry, obviously.
Shout out. You guys want some gator bot? Love some gator bot.
I love some gator. Gator nugget.
Gator nugget. Gator nugget.
Gator nugget now. Yeah, throw him right in his mouth.
Yeah. Oh, no.
I got that one. Little gator nugget.
Little gator nugget. Catch one in my back.

Gator nugget, Dale.

Yeah, throw him right in his mouth.

Yeah.

Oh, no.

I got that one.

Came off his thumb.

Sorry about it, D-Bug.

I got it.

Hey, Kyush.

That was the gator.

Cheers to you, boys.

Cheers to you, little guy.

Now, that's gator.

Good gator.

Ho, ho, ho.

Gator's really good.

Kind of freaks me out a little bit.

It's like a mixture between chicken and calamari.

We used to eat a dinosaur. That's, well, and then we ate an alien last night, octopus.
True. That's good gator.
That does taste really good. I love me some gator.
That's unbelievable. That's really good.
Don't compare to Jeff. I just taste like that.
Is gator like elk? Chicken nugget. I don't know if gator's.
That's all it is. I don't think it's like elk.
I think gator's like. And how? Gator like gator.
Like, what's his name? Okay. Like, Rogan eats elk.
Like, is gator is like... Gator like gator.
What's his name? Rogan eats

elk. Is gator

like that?

Gator is gator, Tony.

Is gator healthy is what you're saying?

I don't think it's lean.

I don't think gator nuggets

is necessarily that weird.

Gator, definitely not.

I had some grilled gator. Perhaps that would be a little more healthy.

Of course. Perhaps.
If I had to guess. From what you have heard.
From my gator knowledge. Have you been talking to a lot of the locals? I've been talking to a lot of locals.
Yeah. Yeah.
How do you feel about the city? I feel great about the city. Like I said, it's just got that Detroit flair.
You know? There's something about this place that makes me think of grit and hard work and gator and plenty of other things. You're telling me when we were walking around the French Quarters last night you thought of Detroit? No way.
That was out of a movie there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like an 8 Mile movie. But France, you know? It just doesn't hit me.
I don't know what it was, man. I thought I heard Eminem rapping in the background.
That French Quarter was cool. Yeah.
It felt like we were walking in history there, legitimately. Oh.
Tight streets there, cool designs. Pirates of the Caribbean.
The way it's set up is wild. Yeah.
Tortuga. It's amazing how quick the accent can rub off on Conway.
Oh, man, I love it. I think this could be you.
What accent? you yeah i could definitely love to talk like this you could definitely love it yeah i'm quite sure i'd enjoy it all right before we make our picks we need to take some quick picks from a man who is from the great country of up north he's been giving out picks for decades and decades ladies gentlemen, it's time for Sports Rage. Gabriel Morenci making us some money at the Super Bowl.
Yeah, Gabe! What's up, Gabe? N-O-L-A, Nola! Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Who's got it there? Yeah.
Nobody! Yeah, Gabe! Yeah, Gabe. Hold on, you got to turn his mic on.
Turn his mic on. Hell yeah.
Hey, can you turn the handheld on? He's got the handheld. I wanted AQ to enjoy this.
My man. You're on.
Yeah, okay. Okay, Gabe, every year you come on, you bring the energy, you bring the juice, you bring the fashion, you bring the jacket, you bring the flair, if you will, but you also try to bring the rage.
Oh, yeah. Legend, Cajun style.
Okay, I like that, especially with a little gait up here. Yeah, a little gait up here.
You also try to bring us some winners. And in years past, you gave us first touchdown score back in junior plus 750.
You've hit a couple winners for us in the past. Today, what do you have for the big game, and what are you thinking about whenever you're two days out? Well, you remember a couple years ago when these two teams played, who scored the first touchdown? Jalen Hurts.
Yeah. And I'm still upset that I didn't take it two years ago.
I know Saquon, listen, Saquon Barkley, I think is going to get into the end zone, but I think that Jalen Hurts will be the first touchdown scorer of this game. But if you're taking someone on Kansas City, I think we go with Kareem Hunt at plus 800.
Oh, running back. Yeah, Kareem Hunt.
One thing about the Kansas City Chief touchdown props here, guys, normally the team that's favored, it's a shorter price. So you're getting big numbers.
If you think somebody on Kansas City is going to score first, you're getting a nice price for it. Xavier Worthy is 10-1.
Travis Kelsey is like 8-1. Kareem Hunt is like 8-1.
So I'm going to go with Jalen Hurts. You're getting like plus 600 range.
But let's go with a little bit on Kareem Hunt as well, Pat. Plus 800, baby.
Okay, so that's first scores. Is there anything for first possession? Like I believe there is first completion, first reception.
Who would that get? I'm not getting too gimmicky. Okay, I like that.
I like that. Let's get to the meat and potatoes.
I don't care what color Taylor Swift's socks are or anything like that. She's not going to wear socks, obviously.
Incredible heels. Or what color are Boots, maybe.
Oh, yeah. Red boots.

No gimmicks, but let's keep it simple.

I think the Philadelphia Eagles are going to win this football game because of Jalen Hurts and Saquon Barkley on the ground.

I think it's going to be a punishing 1-2 attack.

We saw Joe Mixon had success against Kansas City.

We saw C.J. Stroud had success.

C.J. Stroud doesn't really like to run the football that much.

He took off.

This is the playoffs, guys. You know better than anybody.
Hell, we see Tom Brady, Peyton Manning will run in the playoffs, right? You got a Super Bowl on the line. Jalen's not going to hold back.
I think 37.5 yards, guys, for Jalen Hurts is too late. And you know what? He's gone over this number in eight of his last 11 games, including the game he got hurt in even against Washington.
Yeah, when Kenny Pickett came in. And you know he's going to take off in this game.
I also think Mahomes is going to go over his numbers. Getting up there, 29.5 right now.
We all know Mahomes, sneaky. You know, that's smart.
He's going to get the first down when he needs it. I think both quarterbacks are going to go over their rush yards.
And I'm not scared of Saquon Barkley at over 110, 112.5. That's a high number.
It is. Yeah, it is.
But all he's been doing is crushing this number, right, on a weekly basis. You can't stop him.
Listen, guys, we saw the Buffalo Bills ran for 73 yards in the third quarter alone against Kansas City. For whatever reason, Joe Brady stopped running the ball in the fourth quarter.
Damn. Damn.
Come on, Joe. I think you can have success.
The only gimmicky prop, and this isn't a gimmicky one. It's kind of gimmicky, though.
No, no. A little gimmicky.
A little bit. A little bit gimmicky.
No, this is for the crew here. This is for the defensive boys.
Over 42 and a half made tackles for the Kansas City Chiefs. Okay.
Over 42 and a half. I like what's happening.
It's a game. What's a normal line there?

What does that mean?

What's a normal line?

I like your thinking here.

No, no, you know, exactly.

Eagles are going to run the ball.

That's how we afford those nice cowboy hats.

That's right.

Ambo.

You know what I'm talking about.

No, basically, Saquon Barkley's going to touch the ball like, what, 25 times, 23 times?

Jalen Hurts is probably going to rush the ball another six, seven, eight times.

I think the Eagles are going to win the battle, the time of possession. I think they're just going to wear them out, run the ball down their throat all night long.
And for the record, Kansas City had like 45 tackles. Okay, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
We need some cuffs. So, yeah, it's sort of in those two.
42 and a half of those two players? In that? Or everybody? All together. Yeah, total defense.
This is a new bet. Yeah, so put it in.
Gimmicky, not gimmicky. I don't look like an accountant, but I actually am one, so I'll tell you.
Get out of town. No way.
I got books. I got books.
I'm lying once. I'm lying a little bit here, but the Eagles ran 66 plays in their last game.
Okay. All right, so out of the 60 plays, how many times are they going to go out of bounds? Does that not count as a tackle? That's not a tackle, right? So that's the only thing it could be.
That player gets a tackle, though. That player gets a tackle if they're the closest to him.
Let's say no one touches Barkley, just runs out of bounds. It's not, you know, I lost a player without a tackle.
So it's like half tackle, assisted tackles, tackles, all combined. Because I think the Philadelphia Eagles are going to run a lot of plays.
Yeah. And I also think I don't think they're going to run wild.
There's going to be times in a game where the Chiefs defense will stuff them a bit, right? So I'm expecting a lot of plays. I don't think they're going to run wild.
There's going to be times in a game where

the Chiefs defense will stuff them a bit.

I'm expecting a lot of plays

run. 60-65 plays

for the offense.

I love everything about that. Tone has a question

for you, Gabe. Yeah, I do.

On that basis, I kind of like

Drew Tranquil.

He is plus 750 to be

the leading tackler in the game. He's the Chiefs' leading tackler in the playoffs.
How do you feel about that? That's a good bet. You're getting a nice number.
He's a good gambler. Good gambler.
Good gambler. Like I said, that's why he is who he is.
Pretty good gambler. The favorite is Zach Bond, and then it's Nick Bolton, and then Drew Tranquil, I believe, is fourth shortest odds to be the top tackler in the game.
So that's why I went with that one. Xavier Worthy.
This is another one. I wanted to get to Xavier Worthy.
Xavier Worthy, we know he's a badass, and we know he's going to haunt the Buffalo Bills from here to eternity. Who would have saw that coming? All right.
Buffalo Bills fan. Congratulations to Josh.
He's a great job. Let's hand it to them.
I've said this before. The Kansas City Chiefs, if the building, if somebody's breaking into the Kansas City Chiefs practice facility and you see the robbers leaving, I wouldn't call the cops.
I'd be like, listen, they're on their own. If you're the Buffalo Bills, you're going to help them out to this point of time? Oh, you're talking about trading you.
Yeah, like really. At what point of time do you learn? So I knew that Xavier Worthy was going to score a touchdown against the Bills.
He did. Of course.
And here we go again. I think he's going to score a touchdown at the Super Bowl, guys.
I like Xavier Worthy to get into the end zone for the Kansas City Chiefs, like plus 155, plus 160 right now. But I like Xavier Worthy under five and a half receptions.
Oh. I don't think he's going to catch six balls in this game.
He's going to catch four or five, and he's going to get a couple of carries.

Xavier Worthy's rushing yard prop

is five and a half yards.

Don't tell me

you can't pick that up.

We're going over five and a half.

I also like Saquon Barkley over

14 and a half receiving yards.

That could happen on one little bubble

screen. Yeah, that's Saquon Barkley football.

32 and a half yards is the average touchdown

score for him. Go ahead, D-Buck.
Speaking of

Saquon and your Bills fans

Thank you. That could happen on one little bubble screen.
Yeah, that's Saquon Barkley football. 32.5 yards is the average touchdown score for him.
Go ahead, D-Buck. Speaking of Saquon and your Bills fans, so congratulations on Josh Allen winning the MVP.
Who do you like? I didn't get a cut of the bonus, man. It was a big bonus.
Love that. But what's your best bet for Super Bowl MVP going into the game? Super Bowl MVP, when it's all said and done, I think it's going to be Saquon Barkley.
I think Saquon Barkley, I've got a final score for you guys from some fat numbers. Fat numbers, baby.
And warm Detroit and go back to the casino and get it done. Hit these on the roulette, possibly.
I love the term. I was laughing out loud, man.
This is Governor Boston calling. They're both great cities.
Yeah, I agree. As far as the total of this football game, the so-called sharps, and I hate the term sharps and squares and all that, but a lot of pro bettors, Pat, earlier, they did bet on the under of this football game.
I personally don't know why. I think there's going to be points.
It's a fast track at the Superdome. There's going to be a couple of trick plays run.
There could be some short fields. Both teams are very efficient when they have the football.
And in all this Kansas City stuff, these guys are rope-a-dope-a-dope. You know, like Floyd Mayweather in the first five, six rounds of a fight in the first weeks of the season.
Right? They dialed it up on offense right now. Andy Reed starts to run plays that Yale ran in 1912 that you never saw before.
So, look, they hung 32 on the Bills. I think the Chiefs are going to get to 27 points.
Three touchdowns and two field goals for the Kansas City Chiefs. And I've got four touchdowns and one field goal for the Philadelphia Eagles, which adds up to 31-27 birds.
31-27 birds.

And it pays

150 to 1.

That's good. I'll take it.

Incredible odds.

It's been an incredible convo. Gabe, we appreciate you bringing

us this juice on Friday. I always appreciate

that tradition continues, my man.

Absolutely. Ladies and gentlemen,

sports rage. Who's got it better than us? Nobody! We appreciate you, Gabe.
The tradition continues, my man. Absolutely.
Ladies and gentlemen. Sports Rage.

Who's got it better than us?

Nobody.

We appreciate you, Gabe. Yeah, baby, Gabe.

Michigan man as well.

You know what I mean?

I heard that.

I didn't know.

Thank you, Gabe.

Thank you, Gabe.

Betsy.

Felt like there was some real.

Always brilliant, Gabe.

Felt like there was some winners in there.

Oh, yeah.

Tons.

Felt like we might have some winners in there.

I'll take 31-27. Sweet Jack.
You have to. I'm betting it.
Great, Jack. 150-1.
Thank you, Gabe. I'll tell you what.
If that hits, Gabe. Boom.
Yep. Gabe's going to be on cloud 100.
Yeah. He's the GOAT if it hits.
Yes, he is. All of his things, just so much.
That's how you know he lives and sleeps and eats gambling. Yes, he does.
Always looking for an angle. Always looking for an angle.
He sold me on that tackling. 42 and a half tackles.
Normally a tackle about 45. Couple guys run out of bounds.
I'm losing a play. Losing a play, so I need that on that whole thing.
A little gimmicky, not too gimmicky. Tones, too.
Tranquil plus 750. I like that.
As the leading tackler on the defense, everyone thinks. He's going to be on the field.
Yeah, with a running team, it feels like tranquil is a great bet. All right, let's get to it.
Boys, we've been waffling and waffling. We have.
We've taken casino visits and lost our ass and come back. We've done this show.
We've talked to experts. Yeah.
People that know it inside and out. Big old brains.
And we've gone to dinners and we've gone to casinos.

Lost our ass.

Got a patio.

Talk about the good old days.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

We're in them.

We're in them right now.

We're in them.

And do a show.

Talk to more experts.

Yep.

Waffle, waffle, waffle, waffle, waffle.

We've been flip-flopping, all of us.

I think if everybody's been telling the truth.

Yes. None of us have had any conviction on who's going to win this Super Bowl,

which is exactly how it's supposed to be, I think.

The AFC's best taking on the NFC's best, and nobody has a fucking clue.

That's great news.

There's been people on TV that have made picks in back-to-back days,

and they've picked both teams.

Yep, can't blame them.

Hey, who's going to win?

Eagles, they're going to bully them. Then they have to go and lay down at night.
Uh-huh. And they have to read through their mentions.
And they have to see everybody say, oh, okay, so Patrick Mahomes isn't even playing in this game. And you wake up, you're like, Patrick Mahomes is playing.
Chiefs are going to win. That's what they do.
You pick the Chiefs the next day. Everybody's like that.
Basically a pick-em on ESPN bet. Minus 110 for both parties on the money line.
That being said, let's make our picks. It will be a pick-em.
The one point does not matter to wrap this thing up. We'll start with you, A.Q.
Shipley, host of In the Trenches. Handed out a Trenchy Award to the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line for being the best offensive line in the game.
A.Q. Shipley, who do you pick? How do you pick? Well, see, there's been no waffling here.
I have been fully convicted. I have unwavered on the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line.
I've wavered a little bit on one guy, but I've never wavered on the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line. Because of that, they're going to win.
They are going to win. And I think they're going to win exactly the way that Gabe just said it.
They're going to get the ball and they're going to pound it. Saquon's going to run it.
Offensive line, they're all back. The center's back.
The guard's back. They got a fully healthy group.
How healthy? No idea. It's a Super Bowl.
We use everything you got. Eagles will win this game.
Okay. There for a bit, you did question, didn't he? Yeah, you did.
Because you said you never wavered. You had them as the sixth best team in the divisional round.
I had the Rams above them. Where did I have that offensive line that same week? Number one, but you said they can't win the game.
Well, that changed after I saw that offensive line win the game. Okay, yeah.
Your thoughts have evolved ever saying, wait a minute, this group is legendary. Is there a chance that they go down in conversation they could have had the rushing title could have i mean everybody that would have been a big game from saquon and from them but they could have had it they are by far the reason why they are winning the stats say both yards before contact for saquon barkley and the amount of rushes versus the amount of passes that the offense has done as a whole they put put the team on their back.
Will they be in a historic conversation? Who is in the historic conversation of offensive lines? Yeah, I think they're going to be in the top five conversation of all time. I really do.
I think you go back to some of those Steelers' offensive lines in the 70s. They were phenomenal.
I think they put four or five in the Hall of Fame. They got a bunch of guys on this Eagles team.
Cowboys, exactly exactly with Larry Allen. And obviously Dickerson's group.

But when you take a look, and now that you have these stats of how many yards

Saquon had before being touched, it is all on the offensive line

when those stats come out.

How about it?

Congrats to the big boys.

Can they win the big one?

AQ Shipley says yes.

Let's go to one half of the hammer.

Down.

Cowboys, AP Tone. AP, you had your MVP ballot correct.
Uh-huh. Yep.
Congratulations. Thank you.
Do you appreciate the fact that people were wondering why you got a vote and then you saw everybody else who had a vote and said, wait a second. Who? Well, I'm the problem.
I spelled your name wrong. A lot of people are saying, how come Tony Diggs is not on this list? That's not my actual name.
My name is Anthony. It's short, Tony's short for Anthony.
There's people that don't know that. Yes.
See, that's the problem. There's some places that have zero Italians.
Yeah, exactly. Well, not a problem, but I see what you mean.
Spelling. I can hurt it.
Please, please. Anthony, you did great with your AP votes.
You represented this program very well. We're proud of you.
Thank you. Thank you for the opportunity.
Thank you for doing all the work. I did waffle.
Early in the week was always the Eagles for me, just because on paper, statistically, the matchups, I thought they were the better team and the better matchup. Today, I waffled a bit in my head.
You're not going to bet against Patrick Mahomes, are you? But I am. I'm going to stick with my prediction early in the week and my gut early in the week, and I am going to go with the Philadelphia Eagles.
Okay. O-line, D-line, Howie.
Wow. Listen.
O-line, D-line. When you're born and raised in a steel town, built on running game and defense,

you kind of always tend to lean that way, and that's what I'm going to do.

Okay.

So, A. Kusch taking the offensive line.

Anthony DiGiulio taking the Eagles in the powerful ball.

Let's go to the toxic table.

You two are wearing titles.

Have been all damn day.

Ty, we'll start with you.

Who are you picking? And is it the Kansas City Chiefs because you've been wearing that all day? Well, maybe. But, listen, I love Sirianni more than just about any coach in the league.
I feel like me and him, we're a bit simpatico. We've become that way a little bit.
Yeah, because it feels like you're maybe speaking for him. Maybe sometimes, yeah.
Listen, Cooper Jean, you know, Iowa Hawkeye starting in the Super Bowl. You shit me.
His rookie year, his birthday is on Super Bowl Sunday. Saquon's birthday is on Super Bowl Sunday.
I want the Eagles to win. I really do.
I don't think they're going to. Geez.
It's been the same thing. I started early on their birthdays.
On. I know.
I just my homes just doesn't really lose these games. I think the Eagles are they'd have to win by like 10 13 points.
And we talked about that yesterday. Like it doesn't matter if the Chiefs get down 13 points held.
It doesn't matter if they get down 20 points like there's a good chance that my homes is just going to will him to a victory. I think he's going to do it again.
But but I would love to see the Eagles win. I just don't think they're going to.
So you've had the same thoughts as we all have, but you've actually decided to waffle all the way over. Yes.
Diggs said he thought about that this morning, and he was like, no, I'm not going. I'm going to stick with it.
You had that thought this morning. You're like, yeah, what? Yeah, that's Mahomes.
Yeah, that's Patrick Mahomes. There's a reason.
He's already in the GOAT conversation.

Exactly.

Boston Connor over there on the toxic table.

You have the Philadelphia Eagles title.

You can get it at www.shop.com.

It's beautiful.

It's been holding you up, you say.

Yeah, it has.

Truly.

Is there a reason you're wearing it?

No, there isn't.

Actually, I woke up this morning and I said I could see the Eagles crying.

I could see the red and white confetti. You can see Mahomes driving down the field down by two, getting all the way down to the goal line, kneeling it out a couple times, get that clock down to five, kick a field goal, game over, three-peat, the merch is everywhere.
Pat Riley makes a billion dollars. I could see that in my brain.
But then I could also see, you know, my Philly bloodline. You know, my mother's from Philly, okay? I got Philly blood in these veins.
That cage accent. And then I think about how could I not acknowledge Philadelphia and what they've done this year and Jalen Hurts and that O-line and Sirianni.
And, you know, I watched The Star is Born on Sunday a week ago. How was it? Bradley Cooper.
So good. He's the front man.
And as I'm kind of just looking to Sunday, I see Bradley Cooper slinging Philly cheesesteaks on that field to everybody, every player who just dumped Gatorade on to Coach Nick Sirianni, who isn't a big dumb dipshit, who's a genius? Who's kind of the future? This great man right there. Serving cheesesteaks right now out of a food truck here in Louisiana.
He's dealing them. You know what that brings? Good mojo.
You know what good mojo brings? What's that? Super Bowls. So I'm riding with the Philadelphia Eagles.
I think the Eagles are going to win. I really do.
I think three-peats are incredible, but I don't think they're meant to happen. I truly don't.
I think this is finally Philly's year. And, you know, to what Drew Brees said, we did hear a lot from a lot of people.
Drew Brees yesterday said, Philly's the most desperate team, and I love a good desperation. Hungry dog.
Hungry dog. Vic Fangio.
We talked about how long he's been in the game.

No Super Bowls.

Like, you know he's going to have something up his sleeve.

Spags and Reed for sure.

But you know Fangio's not walking into the Super Bowl,

never being there, never winning it.

Just like, yeah, let's just run everything that we've been doing.

I think he's going to mix it up.

I think it's going to be a great game, but the Eagles win.

Okay, so the title belts were an indicator earlier.

Happy to see it.

Way to represent boys. E-L-G-S-E-S.
I might have just got swayed another time. Nine-year NFL vet.
Massive football brain. Looks like he's not 100% sure where he's headed yet either.
Ladies and gentlemen, who's there? Everything DB? Good DB. How do you like the game to turn out? Been waffling.
Been waffling all week long, you know, because everybody's been saying it all week long. You look at the rosters.
Eagles got the better roster. There's no doubt about it.
They got more talent. They got more money spent on the rosters.
Well-constructed. But then you're like, I can't bet against Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl.
He always gets it done. You think about the triangle you mentioned, Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, Spags.
They always get it done in the biggest moments. And history is, you know, it's right on the line, three-peat.
They are the villains. But that has been said, when you root for four teams and one of them make it, Jalen Hurst doesn't turn the ball over.
Matty P talked about it earlier. We talked about it here from a bunch of people.
Matty P. has been on this stage in this moment for a bunch of times.
Number one defense, number one rushing attack with the quarterback that doesn't turn the ball over. I think it's their time.
Philly, they get it done. Okay.
Fly, Eagles, fly. Wow.
Wow. Yeah.
E-A-G-L-E-S. Eagles.
Four out of the five votes thus far on this particular stage. Don't feel great about that.
No, I mean, it's five out of six if you count Gabe Marenzi, who gave his pick. A.J.
Hawk, Super Bowl champion, an all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. Have you been swayed by anybody on the stage thus far, and which way are you leaning? Well, I'm kind of, I've been swayed all week.
I absolutely have. Every single day I've thought different things.
But since I have sat up here, I'd say the last 12 minutes I'm 100% sold. Okay, that's all you need.
That's all I need. The last 12 – I'm like Bill McComas when someone's attacking his blackjack skills.
Like he's going to die on that. It's a hill he's willing to die on.
It's how he plays blackjack, right? Yes, I agree. That's how strong I feel about my field.
He was actually starting to get heated at us for calling out what was happening in front of his hand. Smart move.
Turn it on. Yeah, he was trying to turn it on us, but too many people were like, nah, this is pretty asinine, dude, what you're doing here.
But it made him a firmer believer. Being persecuted by you guys makes me more firm in my beliefs that the Philadelphia Eagles win this game 31-24.

Wow.

We didn't persecute you.

I didn't see that coming.

I felt it.

I felt it.

I thought you were Chiefs the whole time.

I really did.

Until now.

I might have been.

Last 12 minutes.

Eagles.

It's a great chance we end up on a Patrick Mahomes real Chiefs.

He's Chiefs though, right?

Yeah.

He's got one.

I mean. We're just giving him more motivation.

Gumpy, who do you got?

Love the Chiefs.

Okay, we got two.

Okay.

Bobby O'Karenkay is over there.

That's a good sign.

Good to see you, Bobby.

Bobby.

Bobby, good to see you, Bobby.

Bobby.

It's a big moment, Bobby. Bobby, good to see you, Bobby.
It's a big moment, Bobby. Yeah.
Keep moving, Bobby. Who's Jeff Landry picking? Ask him on Sunday morning.
He still doesn't know. I've been watching in the box.
It's my state. My wife got two tickets.
She's lucky enough to bring me. No, I'm lucky enough.
Nice enough, yes. Yeah, the way you say that really makes them look bad.
Yeah, true. Or the other way.
Apologies, Governor. Man.
You know. 12 minutes, you've been locked in.
I'm not joking yet. Darius, you've been locked in.
This is the most I've ever waffled in my life. Would you like to change your pick? No.
Sticking with it. Would anybody like to change their pick? No.
I'm thinking about it. I'm not, but I'm not.
No, I can't. Locked in.
You got to acknowledge your bloodline. I got my bloodline on the line.
I think the Philadelphia Eagles. Wow.
Ah, that was hard coming out of my mouth. I don't like it one bit.
Bad. Chiefs are still the Chiefs, ain't they? Yeah, I thought that's what you were saying.
History.

Three-peat is what they said immediately after the last one.

I'm taking the Chiefs.

Get the fuck out of here.

What was I thinking there?

It's hard to get over.

It is.

What was I thinking right there?

Everyone's getting swept up in the Philly fever, and I get it.

I mean, we had the Eagles.

Swoop.

Yeah, well, the Eagles super fan.

Full-time, seven years now. Philly sports guy.
Philly sports guy. We had him over here.
He's full time now for seven years. You think, you know, that's not going to sweep you up a little bit and be like, hey, we love this team.
Had Siri on the show. I mean, we had, you know, guys.
Love the way they're built. Love it.
Love everything. Jalen Carter's playing 99% of the snaps.
He's a D lineman. Zach Bond.
Howie Roseman yesterday. so incredibly kind.
Great guy. The way they built the team.
Howie seemed loose. He did, didn't he? Just walking down the French Quarter.
Real comfy. Not a worry in the world.
Strong. I mean, he came in real strong with the hand.
Fired up. It was a full-on, what up? One of those.
And I saw his Jays. I was like, damn, really nice shoes out of you out here.
And they introduced me to his family. Great guy.
Great guy. Love Sirion.
He came on the program. Love the offensive line.
Yeah. How about that D-line? How about Philly D-line? Vic Fangio's a dog, too.
He needs one, doesn't he? Yes, he does. Yes, he does.
I'm taking the Eagles. Oh.
I'm on the Eagles. Okay.

We can cut whichever one. Sit with that for a moment.

Yeah.

Bathe in it a little bit.

Yeah, have a little game.

Anybody else like to change your pick?

Are you locked in?

I do.

You're locked in?

Absolutely.

You're locked in?

Spottie.

Spottie.

Play it for the Eagles.

I have to.

I have to.

I'm sticking with the Chiefs.

Cool.

Thank you. Played for the Eagles.
I have to. I have to.
I'm sticking with the Chiefs. Cool.
Colgate are interesting. Not as good as Wolgatis.
Colgate is interesting. There's nothing like a freshman.
Colgate is a cold-bloody. We got to go.
I got to leave, too, here. Yeah, you do.
Chiefs are still the Chiefs. Day three, Pete.
All right. Be a friend.
Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life.
I really like that. Last chance.
Oh, my God. Haven't seen fake Andy Reid.
That's true. I think that's a good thing.
Give me the Chiefs. Give me the Chiefs.
You thought I should go the other way? I think. Well, he's not confident he's not here.

I think I'm worried.

He's seen him every year.

They've won.

I'm worried.

Now he's not here.

We definitely saw him bopping around every day the last couple years.

Same with the wolf.

A lot of bopping.

Yeah.

The wolf got.

The wolf's locked up now.

They won't let him out.

He has been locked up, hasn't he?

Yeah.

Not like Mike the Tiger.

No. No.

No, this wolf locked up.

Mike loves. He's a free Tiger.
Nice Tiger. Free Tiger.
Chiefs are still the Chiefs. God, how, though? How do they win it? Don't figure it out.
What color is your shirt? Green. I know.
Yeah, I was looking around. Green, green, green, green.
Oh. There's been a lot of green here.
He's got a Philadelphia thing that says build a wall around Philadelphia.

What the hell?

That was not a compliment to Philly.

That's right.

But at least it's got Pennsylvania reference on it.

He literally said build a wall around Philly to make a better Pennsylvania.

It's a Pittsburgh reference.

That was where he stands on Texas, though.

Yeah.

Well. Whoa.
Surprised he didn't wear his ice jacket today. Let's get out of here.
Thank you, everybody, that was part of setting this up. Mystic Scenic Studios, I believe, is the company that built this set.
Thank you so much for your incredible work. This looks incredibly authentic and awesome.
Everything worked. To Barcode and the ESPN crew that wired this whole thing, set this thing up, thank you so much.
It looks amazing. To the NFL people that have this radio row, thank you for the opportunity for letting us be here.
To the people that stand out here, thank you so much. I really appreciate you guys.
It's incredibly awkward, but we do appreciate getting a chance to see you guys. Josh Allen is MVP.
A sign says that is accurate.

That's a good sign.

It's an accurate sign.

Yeah.

Looks like it was made by hand, too, so that's maximum effort.

Like, the work ethic of the sign.

Everything good about the sign there.

And, yeah, let's enjoy the Super Bowl, boys.

Okay?

All year.

A lot of Eagles fans on the set.

A couple of us still believers in the Chiefs.

That's right.

Maybe we look like fools on Monday. Maybe.
Or maybe it's you guys. Oh, no.
Could be. Maybe, I think.
Nope. Same with the Chiefs.
Yep. This one doesn't.
It's because you want the Eagles to win. Like, I want the Eagles to win.
I just. I just.
It's the Chiefs. Yeah, so what happens if the Eagles win? Then the Chiefs don't have the refs on their side to win every game, or how does this work? How does that conversation go? No, they still do.
Hey, just to get to the Super Bowl. People will cherry pick.
They're trying to give it to them. They're trying to give it to them.
You're saying that whole thing. Had to beat the refs and the Chiefs.
What is the over-under on calls? Beat the champ. You got to knock them out.
You do. Humans are out there making the calls.
Who's the ref? Torbert. He makes a few calls.
Torbert's got a national stage for an ISO. Got a good voice.
So we're definitely a couple of these. A couple of these.
At least one of these. I hope not.
I hope not. There's definitely going to be a few of these.
A couple of these. Lotta.
Thanks. Lotta.
I see. Maybe even one of these.
Oh, really? You think he's going to do one of these? I think there might be one of these. I think there's going to be one of those.
Zach, one of these. Illegal shift.
Elon? Illegal shift. Easy.
You already brought up your ice jacket. Straight sideways.
Yeah, very stern.

You practice that?

Maybe a couple of these, too.

Yep, a couple of those.

Because you can make these look cool.

Approach, man.

Approach, man.

Take that stumbling.

Will he do anything cool, like index card, like Gene Steratore?

Oh, I don't know if he has that.

He might have, like, a cool Tom Cruise run over to the replay camp.

Fox is calling it.

Tom's on it, right?

Yep. He's going to be great.
Sure. Definitely.
Burkhart's going to be fantastic. Yeah.
Pereira? Yeah. Pereira's there.
Yeah. Blandino? Yep.
Blandino. All the boys.
What's halftime show? Kendrick Lamar. Cesar? Cesar.
Cesar. SZA has been announced.
Hopefully we easy. That ain't happening.
Yeah, he said he's not going to be in attendance. Shite.
That's what he would say, though, right? K-Fabe, K-Fabe. Absolutely.
So we'll see. We're going to get a couple surprises for sure.
Definitely. Always do.
Not Drake. Sure.
I think that's probably a good guess. I would assume not Drake in the Super Bowl.
But what if it is? And what if it's all? It's all gimmick. It's all work.
I don't know if that's. That would be a pretty wild scene.
It would be cool. Oh, yeah.
Dropped the lawsuit on the stage. It's getting nerdy out there.
Let's enjoy the game. Boys in the back, great work, boys.
Great work, boys. Great work, boys.
The island. Foxy and the lads.
There you go. Really good work, boys.
All right, let's get the hell out of here. We'll see you for every extra Monday.
I think it's going to be a great game. Great game.
Pumped. Chiefs still the Chiefs.
Chiefs still the Chiefs. Right? We believe that.
Yeah. Yeah, I do.
Yeah. And that's what's awesome.
If they don't win, guess what? Very happy for Sirianni and all the boys. I am very happy for Sirianni.
Yeah, absolutely. That they made the Super Bowl.
Yeah. Be your friend, tell the friend something nice.
It might change your life. We're in this thing together.
Team on me. Team on three.
Have a great Super Bowl weekend. Be safe.
Enjoy it all. Overreaction Monday is going to be epic.
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