422 - The Joe Rogan Experience

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Speaker 4 Thank you for doing this. My pleasure.
Do you want to sit here? No. No, okay.
No. It's your show, though.

Speaker 4 Well, but that's not what we do. On YouTube, we call it, we say, the Joe Rogan experience, and people click.
Ah, don't sue. Good move.
I won't sue. Don't sue.
Come on. Thank you.
I'll never sue you.

Speaker 4 Thank you for letting me shoot the special at the mothership. It was amazing.
Thank you for saving it. Thank you for doing it.
Well, let's talk about it.

Speaker 4 When we got there, someone, it's generally some executive type person, decided to put lamps on every table and light the room up. And I got there and I was like, oh, no, this is terrible.

Speaker 4 And there was like a tension in the air that you could feel. It was the brightest I had ever seen in the club.
Yeah, it was weird. I could see earrings.
Yeah, you could see everything. Everything.

Speaker 4 You could see zits. If somebody had zits, you'd see it.
You could see their complexion. And then on, so Wednesday, the early show, we were shooting Wednesday, Thursday, the early show.

Speaker 4 Wednesday, it was tough. It was tough.

Speaker 4 People were it was tense they were having fun but you were doing really well but your opening acts uh were struggling because it was a feeling when you got there when I walked in I was like Jesus Christ this feels like a fucking like a board meeting yeah you know what I mean it felt like a conference hall felt felt weird it was weird and everybody seemed like a little off-put by it like everyone the audience was tense they were tense but you went as soon as you started fucking around with the audience and and going into them they they got loose they got loose a little bit but it's like it's funny it's like when you shoot a special

Speaker 4 it you know you do comedy all the time and then you go out and you shoot a special and you go

Speaker 4 okay

Speaker 4 i've done this a million times it's gone great and it'll go great now and we'll just get it on film and then you go out and it's like

Speaker 4 and i'm like terrible i'm like embarrassed because you're there

Speaker 4 And in my head, I'm like, I hope he left.

Speaker 4 Cause you're all excited. And you're like, I'm coming to see the special.

Speaker 4 I'm excited and I'm like well thank god I came I mean I'm up there and I'm like doing bits and the audience is just staring at me and I go well this is good and then but afterwards you corrected it and said you got to make it like a comedy club well to those guys credit yeah they all did exactly what I said which is beautiful They didn't push back at all.

Speaker 4 I thought they were smart. Yeah, they had so much work that they put into making things interesting.
They lit the walls weird.

Speaker 4 They did all this stuff. But I said, you got to understand, all this stuff makes people self-conscious.

Speaker 4 The more they can see themselves, the more they can see other people, the more they're self-conscious, the more they won't laugh. And Tim's act is fucked up.
Like,

Speaker 4 you have to cut loose on some jokes that in polite company you would never laugh at. That's right.
You would turn your head away from.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 what was a mind fuck is that I was here a month ago, and I did six shows, and they were like the best shows we've ever done. You're like, this is a break.
So why do we have to film?

Speaker 4 Why wouldn't we film it here? Right, right. And we filmed it at the store, and we didn't get the coverage.

Speaker 4 i had a good set but the coverage wasn't there yeah i heard about that and it was doesn't make any sense it's not ideal it doesn't make any sense it's not good it's not a giant room it's not like you're doing a call it was not good

Speaker 4 it's always good when you think you're gonna get it and

Speaker 4 Because the store, you know, LA is weird. You have people that are sitting there in like ironic cowboy hats.
They have their hot influencer girlfriends. Yeah.
It's weird. It's weird.

Speaker 4 It's not always great. Sometimes it's amazing.
But we got out of four shows in L.A., we got one really great show and Gabby Reese was there. Oh, hello.
Sitting in the front row. Oh, that's awesome.

Speaker 4 She's the best.

Speaker 4 And I'm like, all right, so that's good, right? We got it. And everyone's like, we got it.
And then we get the footage back and we don't got it.

Speaker 4 Did you have anything you use for clips, maybe? Yeah, probably. Yeah.
That's what I was thinking about the first show, Wednesday. Yeah.
Like, there's a lot of clips in there.

Speaker 4 You were fucking around with the crowd. It was very funny.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no.
For sure, there's clips. But like the one we got at the store, the guy who did it's good guy.
He's a nice guy.

Speaker 4 And he's a talented guy, but he just made some choices where he was like far out. He wasn't like, we didn't have a ton of close-ups.

Speaker 4 And that was what he, because here's the thing. They have a vision too.
Right. The people that shoot it.
And I don't talk to any of them and figure out anything. Oh, you have to do that.
I should.

Speaker 4 Now I've really learned. Yeah.
I just showed up. Yeah, I know this.

Speaker 4 I don't even like, like, I'm bad at that part of it where I'm like, I don't do like the strategy meeting and go, what are we? Right. I just figure it's like, you have some other ships, great club.

Speaker 4 You got a camera. Yeah.
There's a stage. Don't go too crazy with the design.
And that's what the problem was.

Speaker 4 They went really crazy with changing the atmosphere. They wanted to, you know, which probably works for some things, but it's not good for stand-up.

Speaker 4 And it's definitely not good for your kind of stand-up. No.
You know, your kind of stand-up demands darkness. Preferably very dark where no one can even even see each other or me.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Just hear my voice in a black hole.

Speaker 4 Paulie's been doing this thing where he goes on stage and just has a spotlight on him. They did it with Holtzman as well.
Interesting.

Speaker 4 For Holtzman, it's really good. Paulie actually, I don't know if Paulie's doing it at the store.
I know he definitely did it. Excuse me.
He definitely did it at the store.

Speaker 4 I don't know if he did it at the mothership. But when he would do it, I go, that's interesting.
I don't know if I like it. I like it for him, but for Holtzman, it's really good.
That's amazing.

Speaker 4 Because he's just a complete fucking maniac. I want to see Holtzman in a spotlight.
Did you see him around the Madison Square Garden?

Speaker 4 I didn't see his set. It was fucking amazing.
I imagine. It was fucking amazing because

Speaker 4 it wasn't worked. You know, Holtzman will take something that day

Speaker 4 and run with it. It's wild.
That day. So he had this whole chunk about nobody likes Billy Joel.
Fuck Billy Joel.

Speaker 4 That's so funny. Billy Joel banners

Speaker 4 at Billy Joel's home, Madison Square Garden. He sold Madison Square Garden out like 300 times.
I know, it's crazy. It's like, that's so funny.
And he's just like, fuck Billy Joel.

Speaker 4 Nobody likes Billy Joel.

Speaker 4 All the people that work here, oh, fucking Billy Joel's here. Yeah.
Oh, that's so funny. Now, he's great.
I'm not doing it any justice. I'm not doing it any justice.

Speaker 4 He's one of those guys where the stuff he does, he can only do. Well, we made a real big effort to get him to Austin

Speaker 4 because we felt like, look, this is not a diss to the comedy store, but he had gotten into this position where they weren't utilizing him the right way.

Speaker 4 They were just having him go up last at the end of these shows. You're talking about a 30-year comic.

Speaker 4 He's really good. Of course.

Speaker 4 But he's weird.

Speaker 4 You've got to love it. I love it.
And he has an audience now. Like, people come to see him at the mothership, and it's sold out.
And they're expecting Holtzman. Right.

Speaker 4 Because it's like, do you ever hear the stories about when Hedberg was coming up?

Speaker 4 When Hedberg was coming up, before everybody knew who he was, before he did like Letterman sets, before he did Comedy Central sets,

Speaker 4 you would put him on as a headliner and they had this guy went on before him who was like rapping and doing backflips and super high energy.

Speaker 4 And Hedberg's just standing there talking about frozen bananas. You know what I mean? It's like you have to set the stage right.
You have to set the tone right.

Speaker 4 Until people know what he does and then they come to see him, it's tough.

Speaker 4 And that's kind of the thing with Holtzman. If they don't know what's going on, they have to know.
But once you know what's going on,

Speaker 4 you're in. And it's great because it's so unusual.
It's so interesting how delicate things are. I had a guy, a friend of mine, really talented singer-songwriter, and we were

Speaker 4 in San Jose, and I go, why don't you open the show with a few songs? And I thought, what would that do? And he did like three songs, and it was like really a tough show.

Speaker 4 It was like a brutal show, like after he did three songs. And I didn't realize like, but a bunch of people told me, don't have comedy follow music.
It's too weird. It's too weird.
It's too different.

Speaker 4 It's like we have mindsets. Yeah.
And like he's singing songs and people are kind of like getting in with it.

Speaker 4 And then we went on and did comedy and it was just, it wasn't terrible, but it was very different. Yeah.
And it didn't feel great. You got to knock people out of that mindset of seeing music.

Speaker 4 And the problem is.

Speaker 4 No disrespect, but most opening acts aren't strong enough to shock them out of it. Right.
They're not good enough to really get the crowd going and change the mindset quickly.

Speaker 4 So by Dom, you're getting up, they're just still adjusting to the idea that they're laughing. Yeah, it was that, and I felt bad and he kind of felt bad.

Speaker 4 We didn't say anything after, like he was sitting in the green room and I was like, good job, man. He's like, yeah, you too.
And then it was just silent because we were so mad at him.

Speaker 4 And it wasn't his fault. He's an awesome guy.
And we loved hanging out with him. He's from Northern California.
So me and my opener were like, why don't you tag along? We'll do this road trip.

Speaker 4 Or maybe we flew. I I think we flew.
And I said, it'll be fun. The San Jose in Providence is like an old theater that they've made into a club.
Great,

Speaker 4 great place. And we were staying in like Palo Alto, which is fun.
You walk around Stanford campus and

Speaker 4 see all the Asian people. It's nice just to see everyone.

Speaker 4 But then he got up and it was, it was like, I didn't know what it was like running with weights on. What did he sing about?

Speaker 4 Just kind of like whatever he's doing, it's like acoustic music, but it's like, it's like, some of it's like socio-cult, like commentary. So I was like, maybe that'll fit.

Speaker 4 It's kind of like folky kind of like, you know, whatever, here's what's going on type stuff. And I was like, I might be good.
And it was like, whoa, it was like quicksand.

Speaker 4 We got up and it was like quicksand right after him. And then he was like, you know, the next day, we're all kind of having breakfast.
And I was like.

Speaker 4 You know, I think tonight we'll just do the comedy. And he goes, no, I get it.
He goes, it changed the energy. I go, yeah.
And I go, I'm sorry. I thought, and he goes, no, no, no, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 It felt, I felt bad. It's just like mixing peanut butter and steak.
Right. You know, both of them are great.
Yeah, you just can't do it together. Just don't put them together.

Speaker 4 And it ruined the weekend because now we hated him.

Speaker 4 We were,

Speaker 4 but we like him, but I'm like, I hate, I don't even want to look at him now

Speaker 4 because of how difficult this was. That's hilarious, especially San Jose Impro.
That place is awesome. It's always supposed to be awesome.
And it was like, you know, it was like, it was tough.

Speaker 4 So it is one of, comedy is such an interesting thing. You got to have

Speaker 4 an idea of like what you're going to see,

Speaker 4 who you're going to see. Yeah.
And because I saw people that 8 o'clock Wednesday show, I'm like, they don't want to be here.

Speaker 4 Some of these people don't want to be here. Well, I don't think that was the case.
Maybe it wasn't. I think they were weirded out.
By how light lit it was. It was so well lit.
It was so well lit.

Speaker 4 There's a light in front of you on your table. Yeah, it was crazy.
It was a bad idea. And Thursday shows were the best ever.
That's perfect. Well, we got them to shut off everything.

Speaker 4 They said, oh, we're just going to leave these lights on. I'm like, let me see them off.
Like the stage light, let me see that off. Let me dim it down, dim it down.
Let me see it off.

Speaker 4 Okay, take it off. No, get rid of it.
Get rid of it. And they did everything.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's so nice owning a club.

Speaker 4 Of course. There's no committee.

Speaker 4 There's no committee. There's me and you.

Speaker 4 You're the dictator. But it's not even a dictator.
It's like you, I do whatever the comic wants. Whatever you need.
Tell me what you want. We'll do it that way.
Okay, good. You want music? No music?

Speaker 4 Okay, no music. Whatever you want.
No, it's the most comic-friendly club, meaning like

Speaker 4 you can do anything.

Speaker 4 The reason that that's I need guidance because I don't know. Like, I just know I like being funny.
Well, what you need with a special is someone who knows you. Right.

Speaker 4 And someone, like, if I was directing or producing your special, this never would have happened. I would have said, no, no, no, we we have to have it very dark.

Speaker 4 Let's take a look at it.

Speaker 4 Let me hear the sound. Sounds going to be cranked all the way up.
We're going to make sure

Speaker 4 there's no things that are missing, and we're good. And just focus on Tim, let him do his thing.

Speaker 4 It's just everybody is an artist.

Speaker 4 We talked about the Aziz special.

Speaker 4 No disrespect to Aziz. I think he's very funny.
But that special that they did where Spike Jones...

Speaker 4 directed it and you it's he's sideways and you see directly backstage yeah where people are mulling around Yeah. It's odd.
It's unnecessary. There's unnecessary things that I'm seeing now.
Right.

Speaker 4 If I go, the best thing about live comedy is that you're there and it's just a person. You're just watching that person and you're listening to what he's saying and you're locked into their head.

Speaker 4 Whatever jokes they're saying, whatever topics, you're locked into their head and you're just looking right at them.

Speaker 4 You don't have to see the audience and see them on the side and see them from here and from there. Everybody wants to like move angles.

Speaker 4 Everyone wants to reinvent the wheel, and sometimes that's good, but often it's, I guess, it's not. I think from now on, I'm going to do them live.
I really do.

Speaker 4 I think after doing that one live, I'm like, even if it sucks, so I fucked up. So this is me when I fuck up.
Like, fine. Right.
I'm just going to prepare more like I did for this one.

Speaker 4 But I think this way, it's like there's no way to do anything weird. You know, there's no editing.
Live comedy to me is so fun.

Speaker 4 Cameras suck.

Speaker 4 It's definitely an other element. But But you can't be glad

Speaker 4 we found

Speaker 4 the dynamic that worked. It's like once you, I always say do four to everybody.
You know, because a lot of times people were just doing one.

Speaker 4 It was good the Wednesday early show was a warm-up and that it was a little tough

Speaker 4 so that the good ones felt amazing. Yes.
You had that right. You understood how good these were versus the Wednesday.
You also understand like you got to do some work. Like you can go south.

Speaker 4 You can't be a little too relaxed out there. No, and and I learned that.
That's the best thing about bombing.

Speaker 4 If you have a bad set, or even just flub a joke or something like that, boy, the next set, you're so focused. Yeah.
You're so like tuned in. And I try to be like that all the time.

Speaker 4 I try to like think about that all the time. I make myself like, if I'm a little too relaxed before I go on stage, like, hey, come on, motherfucker.
Like, you've had some

Speaker 4 shaky sets before. You don't want a shaky set.
Right. Like, get focused.
Get that fucking first joke ready. Get

Speaker 4 a weird time in the world because we do have this weird drone thing.

Speaker 4 We have so many things going on. There's a lot of weird shit.
Yeah. There's a lot of weird shit going on simultaneously.
There's like a lot of noise in people's heads.

Speaker 4 Anxiety. There's anxiety because people go,

Speaker 4 people are, you know, Whitney sat in L.A. just like these five drones in some, you know.

Speaker 4 like they look like they're in like a

Speaker 4 you know

Speaker 4 flying in a pattern or something it's weird And

Speaker 4 people don't know what's going on. There's a weird theory it's a missing nuclear weapon that they're looking for.
There's a theory that these are foreign drones.

Speaker 4 And then we talked about the fact that maybe it is otherworldly.

Speaker 4 And no one's saying, the problem is, no one's saying anything. No one's saying anything.

Speaker 4 And I texted

Speaker 4 people like Tucker, people like you. I text like, I have smart friends, plugged in friends.
Nobody seems to know. Like Tucker made a great point.

Speaker 4 He goes, the cover-up's bipartisan, which is not a good sign. It's like ominous.
It's weird. If it's a cover-up.

Speaker 4 It might simply be that whatever this is is so big that they can't talk about it publicly. They can't share it with Congress.
Right. That's what gets scary.
And that's the nuke one.

Speaker 4 Now, from what I understand, somebody put community notes on the video that I reposted. So I reposted a video of this guy who's a drone manufacturer.

Speaker 4 and he was saying that these drones could be trying to sniff out a nuclear warhead and that there was a nuclear warhead that was missing.

Speaker 4 And this guy was saying this, but then someone in community notes, I think, said something about being part of that, that video is part of a misinformation campaign. I don't know what that means.

Speaker 4 When I hear misinformation, I feel like I feel like someone's saying that this is intentionally misrepresenting the truth. That's how I view misinformation.

Speaker 4 Like disinformation or, you know, incorrect information is one thing, but like misinformation always seems to me like you're you're this is like on purpose. Right.
Right doesn't it? Yeah,

Speaker 4 I would agree. I might not be right in terms of like what the dictionary defines misinformation to me like a disinfo campaign seems like it's a

Speaker 4 strategy. Yeah.
And you want that information out there to muddy the waters and confuse people. Yeah.
So the and especially because they called it a campaign. So it's a part of a misinformation.

Speaker 4 Do you find it, Jamie?

Speaker 10 I don't see the community notes.

Speaker 4 If you click on the video, it doesn't have community notes. I don't see anything, huh? God damn, I swear to God, I saw it before.

Speaker 10 Here's your post on it.

Speaker 11 If I click there,

Speaker 4 no community notes? Maybe somebody pulled down the community notes. Yeah, here's the thing.
Like, whether you agree with him or not, he is

Speaker 4 a CEO of a drone manufacturing company. He scared the fuck out of me.
He scared me.

Speaker 4 I think the disinformation or misinformation, whatever they're calling it, was in regards to nuclear warheads that had not been recovered.

Speaker 4 And I think what the community notes were saying was that all the warheads from when Ukraine got disarmed are accounted for. Are accounted for.
Yeah. So, and then there was another guy.

Speaker 4 I don't think it's the same guy. Is it the same guy that was saying that he put his hands on one? Is that him? He is the one that said

Speaker 4 that. I spoke to somebody.
But you know what's interesting? My friend Bethany,

Speaker 4 who's like one of the real housewife chicks, who

Speaker 4 came up with that margarita. She made like a shitload of money.
Bethany Franklin? Yeah, Bethany Frankel. Some guy called her, and we did a three-way call.

Speaker 4 She goes, I just want you to be on the phone with this dude. And he was just basically like, listen, my dad worked for this and that.

Speaker 4 And he was, you know, and he goes, He said a lot of what that guy said. He said they're looking for something and whatever they're looking for, they want to find

Speaker 4 badly. Well, if they do have

Speaker 4 a skunk works program where they do have some very sophisticated drones that can do things that these drones are doing, one of these things these drones are doing is hovering for very long periods of time.

Speaker 4 Five hours. Five hours of flight time is nuts for a drone.
And they're not exhibiting this traditional heat signature. Any kind of engine, an electric engine, any engine is going to give off heat.

Speaker 4 It's going to give off friction. It just has to.
So somehow or another, these things aren't doing that. So how are they doing that? Do they have a cooling system?

Speaker 4 And if they have a cooling system, what's powering the cooling system? And what kind of batteries are they operating under that they can fly for five hours at a time?

Speaker 4 So Ryan Graves, the fighter pilot who was on the podcast, talked about a couple of things that were theoretical that people were openly working on in the 1960s and then kind of disappeared.

Speaker 4 One of them is anti-gravity drives, like something that works not on a propulsion system like we have with jets, but something completely different, some completely different type of technology.

Speaker 4 And the other one was cold fusion.

Speaker 4 Interesting. That

Speaker 4 there does seem to be at least a few reports that people have been able to do fusion without generating all that radioactivity and that.

Speaker 4 the heat and the different energy that comes from regular fusion. Right.
And that's something they've been trying to do forever. Forever.
Yeah. It seems like...

Speaker 4 What's the latest on Cold Fusion, Jamie?

Speaker 4 What's the latest? See, it's one of those things where I think by the time it gets to a moron like me,

Speaker 4 like how many people know it exists? How many people suppress that it exists?

Speaker 4 How often does if it's an it

Speaker 4 seems to me to be an issue of national intelligence, like national security if you're not going to be able to get it? Well,

Speaker 4 you had Annie Jacobson on it. She wrote that book about DARPA.

Speaker 4 And that book talks about how

Speaker 4 many years in advance they've had a lot of these technologies.

Speaker 4 By the time you're seeing that robot dog, you know that robot dog that they make? By the time you're seeing that motherfucker, that's aerodynamics, that fucker can probably run 500 miles an hour.

Speaker 4 That's right. And it probably looks like a real cheetah.
So it's been around for a long time.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think they're way more advanced than what they let on, you know, especially when you're dealing with the government, right?

Speaker 4 If you're dealing with like some black ops skunk work stuff that they're doing at Area 51,

Speaker 4 how do we know about any of that? By the time we know about it, it's already been used in war or it's already

Speaker 4 like the fucking stealth bomber. Right.
Or it has a commercial component where they're going to sell it. Yeah.
Right.

Speaker 4 By the time we know about the state of the art of weapon systems, why would they tell us? So there is a possibility that this is a drill.

Speaker 4 And they're exhibiting this technology. They're testing it.
They're

Speaker 4 a possibility. Yeah, if that's the same thing.

Speaker 4 If you wanted to test the capabilities of these things in urban environments and how people react, just throw them up in the air around New Jersey. You got the most volatile population on Earth.

Speaker 4 It's the most volatile human beings on the planet.

Speaker 4 If you were going to test anything, it's over the skies of New Jersey. It's a good place to test.

Speaker 4 It's a motley crew of people in that state.

Speaker 4 Joey Diaz is the king of the state. Joey Diaz is friends.
He's the king of New Jersey.

Speaker 4 Do you think there's a possibility that it's China? Yes. That's terrifying.
It's terrifying. There's all possibilities because as soon as they tell us, then we know.

Speaker 4 Because they're going around sensitive military bases.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And they're coming from the ocean. And Trump said he didn't want to comment if he had gotten an intelligence briefing.
But

Speaker 4 I watched his press conference. He said the government knows.
The military knows where they came from. They should tell people.

Speaker 4 And wouldn't comment on whether he received an intelligence briefing, which makes sense. Yeah.

Speaker 4 But was basically, he said, in his estimation, he doesn't think it's enemy drones because they would have shot them down even if they were late.

Speaker 4 Unless there's a reason they're not shooting them down. So that's the whole thing.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 If China is able to do that.

Speaker 4 Because it's not Iran. There's no way it's Iran.
It seems like, and I don't know if it's Russia. But here's the thing.

Speaker 4 If you're going to shoot them down, you're going to shoot them down the skies over New Jersey. That's a problem.

Speaker 4 You're launching missiles into the sky over New Jersey. They miss sometimes.

Speaker 4 They missed when they shot that balloon. Remember the balloon? Spy balloon.
That balloon was going slow as fuck. And one of those missiles missed.
And China. I'm pretty sure that's true.

Speaker 4 And that was... I'm pretty sure that's true.
That's China's spy balloons. Yeah, that was a spy balloon by China.
Now,

Speaker 4 how do we know they come from the water?

Speaker 4 Well, they tracked these things. They were coming from 50 miles at least off the coast.
Wow.

Speaker 4 Just to be able to go that far, that's so far. That's crazy.
Like, that should take an hour to drive.

Speaker 4 U.S. has first missiles missed unidentified airline.
Yeah, it missed.

Speaker 4 So our best fucking missile couldn't even hit a goddamn balloon. It's just floating.
It's not zipping through the sky like a jet. It's just floating and they missed.
So where's that missile go?

Speaker 4 I don't know, but you don't want to be there when it fucking hits the ground. So these drones, they're coming from the water.
They're doing whatever they're doing, surveillance, whatever it is.

Speaker 4 They're sniffing around, who knows? And then they're going back out to sea? Some of them. You see, they're all different.
Some of them seem to be traditional drones that are commercially available.

Speaker 4 Some of them. Some of them are orbs.
There's people getting these photos of these fucking glowing balls. Plasma orbs.
There's one that I saw on Twitter.

Speaker 4 I was like, man, man, I don't want to get into this right now. I'm going to bed.
And so I forgot to save it, unfortunately, because it was just.

Speaker 4 Is it when they're landing the plane and they're up really high? No, it was they were focusing in on a screen. So someone, have you seen it?

Speaker 10 I just saw it too, but it was on my 4U feed and I don't know if I can.

Speaker 4 We're overwhelmed by these goddamn things. I'm not even saving the interesting ones and sending them to Jamie.

Speaker 4 I don't know, man. I think some of them are existing.
We've watched one that was from Arizona that was a a few months ago, and we watched it jet off into the sky.

Speaker 4 We watched a video of it, and it moves.

Speaker 4 First of all, it's just a light. It's like a ball of light, and it rises, and they're all freaking out.
Like, where's it going? What the fuck? It's moving. It's moving.
It's moving.

Speaker 4 And then it just goes like this, like starts moving towards space and shh.

Speaker 4 Because

Speaker 4 no sound. Yeah, I showed it to you.
That's right. I showed it to you at the club.
No sound and an insane speed.

Speaker 4 I don't know what the speed was, but whatever the fuck this thing is, it was as big as an SUV, and then instantaneously it was gone. It just

Speaker 4 took a long time.

Speaker 4 And then there are some of them that people say are the size of cars. Yeah.

Speaker 4 This one. It's the size of an SUV.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 So what is this, Jeremy?

Speaker 10 A photographer says this is zoomed in from a 600 millimeter lens, which is a pretty big zoom. 20 year photographer, which, you know, I guess.

Speaker 4 Whoa. It says it seems relevant.
Somehow, I'm 61 years old.

Speaker 4 i'm indeed a boomer and a paid photographer for almost 20 years so yeah not so sure what the point was uh just one more thing people could say that the government or whomever is deleting the post nah it's people deleting them themselves because wow i don't know what that means

Speaker 4 it sounds a little conspiracy look at his photo look at his photo so what is his photo his crazy beard i bet that guy knows some herbal remedies oh that's not him that's like a tick tock account yeah what so what is that a that's a drone

Speaker 4 who knows what that is i mean that's something he saw in the sky. Is there any images? Can we go to his page?

Speaker 4 Because that seems to be just a photo.

Speaker 10 Yeah, everyone was sharing this photo.

Speaker 4 That's kind of like that post. But it seems like his, in his

Speaker 4 orb. I know.

Speaker 10 I was going to dig into that photographer, but you guys.

Speaker 4 Right, but did you see that there was other images? Like, you can scroll. Right, right.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 So Sony A.

Speaker 4 What is that, Jamie? Is that a badass?

Speaker 10 It's a camera.

Speaker 4 Is that like the shit? It's new. New.
Okay, so top of the food chain, right?

Speaker 4 Yep. And that's what he saw.
Whatever. There's also a video of somebody from a plane, and they're seeing these orbs in the sky above the clouds.
There's like a lot of stuff that is lit up.

Speaker 4 Could we, before you do that,

Speaker 4 just go back to that image again real quick? It's so weird. That is crazy.

Speaker 4 What is that? That's kind of freaking me out because,

Speaker 4 like, what is that?

Speaker 4 There's no, I don't, I can't think of any conventional explanation if that thing is flying through the sky.

Speaker 10 Like the other photo that they're zooming on the screen, it looks similar to this.

Speaker 4 I'm trying to find that one, too.

Speaker 10 That's why I was trying to keep it.

Speaker 4 That's so weird. How likely is it that this technology is being tested out

Speaker 4 because

Speaker 4 it, for whatever reason, we're on the verge of a major conflict with a country like China? Very possible. Yeah.
Very possible. It's also possible that.

Speaker 4 Look at that one. Holy shit.
That's an orb. What the fuck, dude?

Speaker 4 That's a phone camera, though, right? A lot of these just look like weird lights that are getting blurred on camera. Right.
Well, we talked about that, like the zoom feature in phones.

Speaker 4 Like, I've zoomed in on stuff before, and if it's a light in the sky, it gets real squirrely on your phone. Dude, I got zooming in.
I'll tell you right now, I got completely...

Speaker 4 I got completely...

Speaker 4 Let me find that one. That's where the Samsung phone has it way over the Apple phone is the zoom power.
I know it's digital, but it's 100x zoom, and it's pretty fucking good.

Speaker 4 When I zoom in on shit with that thing, it's so much better than my iPhone can do. Dude, I got completely,

Speaker 4 I mean, this is when you get, there's nothing better on the internet than when you're completely, when you get had.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I got had and it was like

Speaker 4 really

Speaker 4 and I just sent Jamie the photo of this. And Jamie, I don't know if you can bring that up.
I just texted it to you.

Speaker 4 I literally was showing this to people, going, look at this drone over my friend's house. And then they were just like, what are you, like an idiot? Look at this.
I'm like an idiot.

Speaker 4 I was showing this to people. And, and, I mean, I was showing this to people.

Speaker 4 It's a flying pumpkin.

Speaker 4 It's the guy. It's the guy.
It's the guy. It's the, you know, it's the guy with the huge dick.
It's like,

Speaker 4 and I'm showing this to people

Speaker 4 and I'm trying, and, and there's like, oh my God, I thought it was a pumpkin. And we're on my phone, we're like making it.

Speaker 4 We're going, we're trying to get closer. And then I look like an idiot.
And now no one wants to hear what I have to say. When you zoom in like that, it looks like a pumpkin.

Speaker 4 Because I was like, dude, that's a drone. And then like when I zoom up, I know it looks like.
That's so funny.

Speaker 4 That fucking photo. Is that like the biggest meme of all time? I think it's probably up there.
It's like that one and the lady with the sock hat screaming in the street when Trump won. That's right.

Speaker 4 Those are huge. Those are big.
That poor lady, she probably had to grow her hair long. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So, I mean, it is, it is weird that all of this stuff's happening.

Speaker 4 But one thing that I at least am comforted by, a war with a country like China would destroy all life on Earth. Why would they want that?

Speaker 4 Well, the thing is, if they could disable our weapon systems, if they can disable our grid, if they have infiltrated through espionage enough that they got deep into the inner workings of our systems, which seems like we're just not that organized the way China is in regards to, you know, China doesn't let people buy land near their military bases.

Speaker 4 We do. China doesn't let other people sell them routers with third-party input so they can fucking spy on your shit.
We do. We do.
We used to, at least. Right.

Speaker 4 And so we know that the CCP has infiltrated a bunch of universities. They know that they send their best and brightest students over here and they share their information with the CCP.
You know,

Speaker 4 there was a story. God, I got to remember this right because I was barely paying attention to it.

Speaker 4 But it was a story where these people that were working on this project, the power went down for quite a bit. And these Chinese people that were working there freaked out.

Speaker 4 because it turned out that they couldn't get in touch with the CCP. They couldn't check in like when they were supposed to.
Interesting.

Speaker 4 So what it was, was they had people that were working for the CCP that were embedded in this like very significant project.

Speaker 4 And the CCP, they're smart, man. They know what the fuck they're doing.

Speaker 4 They give grants to colleges and universities.

Speaker 4 They infiltrate. They know how to

Speaker 4 use money and influence. And they get a bunch of information.

Speaker 4 And there's a bunch of worries that some of the information from ChatGPT GPT has been leaked over from OpenAI that they've gotten a hold of some of that information there was some sort of a leak that they were they were concerned with but there's been a bunch of those situations so if they have enough information where they know how our grid works they know how our systems work they know how to shut everything down they all they would have to do is strike first right if if you just completely disable the government you completely disable the military like quickly can they really strike i wonder what the goal would be complete domination of the world.

Speaker 4 No, well, that for sure. But like, America is an unruly country.
Would it be that they would just then take over the United States?

Speaker 4 Well, they'd make us insignificant. Right.
That's the other thing. But you don't have to take over the United States if you want to run the world.
Right. You just have to disable it.

Speaker 4 You just have to make it

Speaker 4 less effective. I mean, these are terrible things to think of.
Well, no, no, no.

Speaker 4 But I mean, every empire falls, and our empire has certainly certainly been sticking its hands and its dirty nose all over the world in all over the world all over the world and everything and a lot of re for good reasons for national interest reasons yeah this is it jamie is that the orb yeah so this is one these guys are zooming in on

Speaker 4 like okay what the is that

Speaker 4 like what is that that looks really weird That thing looks really weird. That looks straight out of the Bible.
That's like Ezekiel in the Bible. Like, what is that? That's a wheel within a wheel.

Speaker 4 What is that?

Speaker 4 But also,

Speaker 4 what kind of phone is this filmed on? What kind of lens was this filmed on? Is this complete distortion? Are you just looking at

Speaker 4 the moon? Is plasma a technology that anybody has?

Speaker 4 I mean, that's a weird question because I don't know how to answer that.

Speaker 4 You know, I don't.

Speaker 4 I know they've been doing stuff with plasma. They've been doing stuff.
It depends on who you're believing, right? Because like,

Speaker 4 if you ask Bob Lazar, he'll tell you that they were working on these gravity-defying propulsion systems in the 1980s, trying to back engineer them. Is he telling the truth? I don't fucking know.

Speaker 4 I just know when I see things that are really weird, like that, the first image, what the photographer caught.

Speaker 4 I don't know what that is. Like, Jamie, how good is that lens that that guy's using?

Speaker 4 Like, would it possibly distort something normal and make it look like that?

Speaker 10 So here's another, I have it back up on the screen. There's another post where they shared the

Speaker 10 data from the metadata.

Speaker 10 It doesn't give you a lot more information, but

Speaker 10 it helps because people want to find out if they can sort of recreate it with the same sort of settings and whatnot.

Speaker 4 Bro, that picture's 3,000 megabytes.

Speaker 4 3,481 megabytes.

Speaker 10 Oh, there's a period.

Speaker 4 It's 35. Oh, oh, okay, okay.
I was like, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 So it's only 34 megabytes.

Speaker 10 It's a normal photo.

Speaker 10 I mean, it's really zoomed in to not, but this picture is also zoomed in because you could even see the mouse

Speaker 10 thing that has the cursor on it.

Speaker 4 So it's hard to... It's either us.
It's either us.

Speaker 4 It's either another country going, here's what we can do.

Speaker 4 Or it's intelligent life from somewhere else. Or it's intelligent light from somewhere else.
I mean, those are the three

Speaker 4 possibilities. Us being the most benign, unless we're looking for nukes, which is terrifying.

Speaker 4 Did you find that original photo, Jamie, where he shared multiple photos of her, or is it just the metadata? I hadn't looked it up yet.

Speaker 10 It's, yeah, I was getting there.

Speaker 4 The government

Speaker 4 is gaslighting people and saying these are all regular drones and you're mistaking planes for. And I'm sure

Speaker 4 there are instances of people mistaking planes for drones, but the idea that everybody has lost their mind in the past two weeks isn't true. No.
Here's another thing.

Speaker 4 Has there ever been a time ever that you could ever recall where the government gave you information about something that was a hundred percent true and unbiased and accurate

Speaker 4 and maybe concerning to people? Right, never, never, never. It's like that lady, Corrine Jean-Pierre.
Is that how you say her name? Yeah, the press secretary. What a terrible job.

Speaker 4 You just have to lie every day.

Speaker 4 That's her job. Everyone's mad at her, but that's the fucking job.
That's the gig.

Speaker 4 Look, if you're working for a president that's reasonable and the press is unreasonable and

Speaker 4 they're saying things that aren't true, like that Kaylee McEnany lady. McEnany.
McEnany.

Speaker 4 Kayleigh McEnany. McEnany.
Sorry, Kaylee. She's the best.
She's the GOAT.

Speaker 4 And she always had receipts. She was like, oh, that's interesting.
Because you said at this point in time, and CNN said that, and she just always has the receipts. Right.
Right.

Speaker 4 But they were saying things that weren't true. It wasn't, it was the

Speaker 4 opposite is what worries me. When the government is saying things that aren't true, that's when it gets weird.

Speaker 4 And then the press is yelling at them, and she's saying, we've told you many times Biden is sharp as a tack, like that kind of shit. What terrifies me is if I was going to attack a country, it is now.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. Our president is incapacitated.
Our vice president is going around the country drunk. The new president isn't in office yet.

Speaker 4 The new president is not in office yet, so you have this weird period of transition where people don't know

Speaker 4 who's got what authority. We have a month, a month, and we have a solid month, and now all of this shit is happening right now.
Yeah. And it's terrifying.

Speaker 4 Well, apparently, Biden and Harris were both called to the White House. Well, thank God they're on the case.
From wherever they were. I don't know if it has anything to do with it.

Speaker 4 I feel great that those two are back.

Speaker 4 Finally. Where have they been? Finally, someone that can deal with this.
I think Biden was in Africa, and I think she's like getting drunk at a Hillstone.

Speaker 4 I told you I've been describing them as the last managers at Blockbuster Players. I mean, that's what they are.
That's what it is. It's true.
It's a dead-end job. It's the end.

Speaker 4 You don't even have to fucking show up. Just as bullshit.
It's the end.

Speaker 4 We haven't heard a peep out of either one of them until, well, they started talking about it yesterday when the information about Biden's decline came out and how readily

Speaker 4 covered up. It was covered up instantaneously.

Speaker 4 They were seeing it right away, like from the first days in office. They were seeing him.

Speaker 4 I heard before he ran.

Speaker 4 He met with donors and I knew someone in the meeting and they were like, he doesn't seem great. No.
This was before he ran the first time.

Speaker 4 Bro, I was saying that during the election and people were saying that, don't you know he stutters? Like, don't you know he stutters? Like, this was one of the things that people were saying to me.

Speaker 4 He stutters. I was like, no, no, no.
Go back to watch him from 40 years ago. He doesn't stutter.
Watch him 20 years ago. He doesn't stutter.
Watch him when he was the vice president.

Speaker 4 He didn't fucking stutter. That's not stuttering.
You know what that is. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a fucking duck band, unless it's DARPA-made.
Right, right.

Speaker 4 Unless DARPA-made it's really an orb.

Speaker 4 It's really a duck nuke in Central Park ready to fucking kill the whole city.

Speaker 4 I mean, the scary thing is that

Speaker 4 we've been living in what feels like a movie for the last five years. Yeah.
Like, it constantly keeps ratcheting up. We haven't had a normal time.

Speaker 4 There hasn't been a time when we've all just said, huh? Right.

Speaker 4 it went from Donald Trump winning

Speaker 4 to a pandemic to Biden to realizing Biden was asleep and not running the country to Trump running again,

Speaker 4 all the indictments, a lot of the bullshit indictments, almost getting killed with an assassin. And then another guy tries to assassinate him at a golf course.

Speaker 4 Then Trump wins with a lot of support.

Speaker 4 Every swing state, every single poll, again, wrong.

Speaker 4 Now

Speaker 4 we have drones the size of cars hovering over planet fitnesses in fucking

Speaker 4 Matuchin, New Jersey, fucking Hillsborough Township, wherever they're fucking.

Speaker 4 We have orbs in the sky. We can't explain how they got there.
We have the president of China getting his country on war footing, firing generals that don't want to go to war, purging the military.

Speaker 4 What's happening? Purging the military of anybody who's like not into a very militarized China. He's like, yeah.
And that's, you can look that up, Jason. Well, you probably articles about that.

Speaker 4 So what's going on in Ukraine and Russia? Well, that's the terrifying thing.

Speaker 4 The terrifying thing is, are they all just, you know, has he sat down with Putin and then Kim Jong-un or Il or I forget. I think it's Un.

Speaker 4 And then is he like, listen, they're going to fuck with you in Ukraine. They're going to fuck with us in Taiwan.

Speaker 4 You know, like all these BRICS countries like Iran and stuff. At a certain point, you know, our allies

Speaker 4 are not. And, you know, we have the UK.

Speaker 4 We have Europe, Europe's, you know, whatever Europe is, whatever's left. Right.

Speaker 4 And Israel, I guess. But we're it

Speaker 4 pretty much. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So we've got to be a little careful about how we handle all of these different countries. Yeah, I hope that when Trump gets in, he genuinely can bring peace.
I don't know if that's possible.

Speaker 4 I don't know how that works.

Speaker 4 I think he's going to talk to these people. I think the real problem is that Biden, they've cut off communication.
Yeah, that's not good. And it's really not good.

Speaker 4 And I understand maybe why they've done it because Biden's not all there. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Well, it's probably not good to have him go there and clearly not be all there and thinking they can get away with whatever they're doing.

Speaker 4 And the people like Tony Blinken and Jake Sullivan and all these guys in the national security state take are, without a doubt, taking orders from people above them.

Speaker 4 And we don't know who the fuck these people are.

Speaker 4 And the consensus is

Speaker 4 we're going to drain the Russian military

Speaker 4 through a bloody war with Ukraine over two regions. And

Speaker 4 we're going to do all these things. And

Speaker 4 we're going to, you know,

Speaker 4 we're going to help

Speaker 4 the Assad regime get overthrown. Assad's not a good guy, and he's a terrible guy, I'm sure, but that's a strategic goal of the United States for a long time and Israel, and to do that.

Speaker 4 Okay, you know, Assad's no good. Now we have

Speaker 4 someone in there. I mean, let's see what that looks like.
But there's a lot of instability. You have a lot of...
Well, they didn't like Assad so much. They were happy when the Taliban and

Speaker 4 Al-Qaeda took over. Well, this is the thing.
So now we have,

Speaker 4 like, there's no great choices in that part of the world. There's no, like, great Western democratic leader who's going to take over.

Speaker 4 It's just going to be a succession of dictators or religious theocrats. And it kind of always has been.
Other than Iran, which was

Speaker 4 startlingly progressive until they had that coup. Right.
That, you know,

Speaker 4 BP and, you know, us and everybody else.

Speaker 4 Whoops. Whoops.
Whoops. Mistake.
Another reason to be mad at us. Yeah.
That's part of the problem. It's not not us.
It's not fucking country music and football.

Speaker 4 It's like, Jamie, Jamie, are you just going to terrify us the whole time?

Speaker 10 These are just stars that are a little bit out of focus.

Speaker 4 This is a John Summit concert. This is Diplo.
This is nothing. The star out of focus on the bottom looks exactly like the photo.
So these are just stars. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Mostly, that's what it seems like.

Speaker 4 I found the original post that

Speaker 4 came from. Thank you, Jamie.
Wow.

Speaker 4 We're thinking we're getting nuked.

Speaker 4 stars look dope as fuck. That looks exactly and the top one.
It's not China nuking us. It's just the stars.
The top one

Speaker 4 looks exactly like it.

Speaker 10 Especially if I pause it at a point.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the top one looks exactly like it. Everything's fine.
Yeah, we're fine. Biden's good.
Except for all that Syria, Ukraine.

Speaker 4 We're doing too much.

Speaker 4 And we need to, you know, and there's this weird idea. People just don't like, if you say something like,

Speaker 4 and I understand people associate with movements that use the words America first and aren't good, but like, you know, back in the 1930s and stuff.

Speaker 4 But if you say like, we need to worry about America, or we need to put America first, or we need to have a concern about America, people think it's inherently racist, or like...

Speaker 4 jingoistic or like that you hate other people and you're it's like fascistic but it's not it's genuinely what every most countries do that aren't meddling in problems all over the world.

Speaker 4 Every country does it. You would never call Norway

Speaker 4 like a fascist country because they're worried about Norway.

Speaker 4 And the things that we're doing in the world,

Speaker 4 it's not always great. In fact, it seldom is.

Speaker 4 We're making a mess.

Speaker 4 It's not us, though. It's not you and me.
It's not me and you. You say we.

Speaker 4 It's not us. The thing about it that everybody has to recognize is that none of this is free.
This is all costing insane amounts of money, and people are profiting.

Speaker 4 And this is what Eisenhower warned about when he was leaving office. Right.
And this is it, in the clearest sense of the word. It's not crystal clear to everybody why all this stuff is happening.

Speaker 4 Most people don't even know about the coup in 2014 in Ukraine. They don't.
Most people don't know about the coup.

Speaker 4 I mean, most people don't know that the president of the Ukraine right now, Selinsky, played the president on a television show. Yeah.
A comedy show. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And the premise of the comedy show was that a comedian became the president.

Speaker 4 And then they made him the president. And Putin has got to be sitting there in his palace with his whores going, are they fucking kidding me?

Speaker 4 Are they, he's sitting in his palace by the Black Sea and he's going, they're making this guy the president of the Ukraine. And I'm going to, I'm sitting here, and it's hilarious.
Like,

Speaker 4 it's not even

Speaker 4 well done anymore. That's the thing.
Right. With what they're doing with, like, Epstein and all this stuff.
It's not even artful the way they're doing it. It's lazy.

Speaker 4 All of this is lazy. It's like a bad cop show.
They're like, this guy plays the president on TV. Now you're the president.
What?

Speaker 4 they call it the revolution of dignity it's the whole thing and the CIA is going around and meddling in all these countries in a very like sloppy ham-handed like you know Abbott and Costello like way

Speaker 4 and then you just have to like and they've sold it in such a brilliant way to people they've sold it

Speaker 4 um

Speaker 4 in this like altruistic way that we're going, we're helping people.

Speaker 4 And it's the revolution of dignity, the way they say it. We're just giving people dig, that's all we're doing.
We're over there dignifying.

Speaker 4 And, you know, and all of these people,

Speaker 4 you know,

Speaker 4 ignore like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya. Like all the things that we've tried to do and failed miserably at.

Speaker 4 democratizing the Middle East, all of these things. People pretend like they didn't happen.
They go, no, no, no, this one's good.

Speaker 4 Ukraine's good. This one's going to work.
We're in there for the right reasons. We all

Speaker 4 believed that we weren't in Iraq for the right reasons, and it was a mistake. Other than coffee, World War II.
Yeah. That was coffee.

Speaker 4 Other than World War II, is there ever a time where you can point to and say, oh, that one worked out. We made it better.
There's not a lot of good ones.

Speaker 4 There's not a lot of good ones. Vietnam is not a good ones.

Speaker 4 Vietnam was terrible. It was terrible.
No, the things we're good at are like when Bill Clinton was getting caught with Monica Lewinsky, he just bombed a chemical factory in Sudan for no reason.

Speaker 4 He just went, book. We're good at like the hit and run.
I remember people openly, even back then, saying that he was doing that just to distract from the fact that she was in trouble. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 Yeah. He's just giving us something else to think about.

Speaker 4 We just need to take it down a notch. We're like a chick.
who was hot forever and just got treated like that and was a cunt to everyone. And now she's 60.
And now she's 60.

Speaker 4 And she's at the bar and she's at the gay because you're not hitting on her. That's right.
And it hits her out and you're like, all right. But it's not what it was.

Speaker 4 And she doesn't understand that you can't go around the world treating people like shit now that you're older. You have to like fucking join a book club.
Not only just older, but older and rich.

Speaker 4 She's rich. She's got a lot of money and she doesn't care.
The crazy thing is they just keep sending money over there. Like, no matter what anybody thinks or says,

Speaker 4 we think that the Ukraine is going to be,

Speaker 4 it's going to be like a client state of the U.S. State Department, which is what it has been.

Speaker 4 We don't have an interest in the people's dignity of the Ukraine. I hope people realize that.

Speaker 4 And I'm not saying that people in the Ukraine don't deserve dignity or their own government or whatever they want.

Speaker 4 I mean, God bless. Of course.
Our foreign policy aims are not. we don't go around the world going, who's not dignified?

Speaker 4 That's not what we do. And let's give them dignity.

Speaker 4 BlackRock,

Speaker 4 all of these companies are being promised farmland. They all have contracts to rebuild.
Minerals.

Speaker 4 Mineral wealth. Lindsey Graham, last time I was on, we talked about that.
So you just, you know,

Speaker 4 they want the Ukraine to be our client state in that part of the world where we are just enriching ourselves with the minerals in the Ukraine, their farmland,

Speaker 4 and

Speaker 4 we have all the contracts to build their critical infrastructure.

Speaker 4 Have you heard Mike Benz talk about the whole purisma thing?

Speaker 4 Not in as much detail as I should have. Yeah, he goes deep into what they were trying to do.
And it's, you know, it's about energy, and it's about taking the

Speaker 4 control of energy away from Russia. Right.
When you realize

Speaker 4 how the world runs, it's interesting because

Speaker 4 when you're a kid or a young adult, you believe that the world is run on ideas.

Speaker 4 I think this is, and I think it partially is, but you think like some people have good ideas, some people have bad ideas. Those people

Speaker 4 fight, and hopefully good ideas win. But then what you realize when you get older is like a lot of it seems to be about trade routes, minerals,

Speaker 4 energy. Like people have things.

Speaker 4 They have actual things. They have mineral deposits.
They have oil.

Speaker 4 They have openings to the sea. They have routes to move stuff from one place to another.
They have actual physical things of great importance and great value.

Speaker 4 And the ideas seem to just coalesce around those things.

Speaker 4 Like if Ukraine didn't have that mineral wealth and it wasn't strategically important with regards to Russia and it didn't have the energy infrastructure that it did. And we weren't involved in NATO.

Speaker 4 And we weren't, you know, no one would care, but it seems to be that, you know, this is really the way the world runs. It's about energy.
It's about, you know, these minerals. It's about

Speaker 4 keeping certain trade routes open to do business.

Speaker 4 And then the ideas are are sold to you based on the needs

Speaker 4 of the people that are, you know, most people don't know what burisma is. Right.
Most people have no idea. But our whole policy in the Ukraine is probably revolving around things like that.

Speaker 4 And probably most of our policy in the world. Right.
And then there's weird ones, you know, like the Afghanistan opium connection.

Speaker 4 That's a weird one. That

Speaker 4 their production went up like 96%.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 4 Right. As soon as we got in there, it's like, and then the reality was like we were trying to say, we need to help these farmers guard their poppy fields so that they'll give us info on the Taliban.

Speaker 4 Right. How did that work out 20 years later? It really didn't.
It really didn't work out.

Speaker 4 And then they were supplying most of the world's heroin. So most of the world's heroin was coming from a place where we were

Speaker 4 actively guarding. Do you ever see the Geraldo Rivera one? Yes.
Yes. It's wild.
He's crazy. He's kind of trying to gaslight people.
That's when he has Fox News show.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so he's walking around interviewing these people who are guarding these poppy fields, trying to find some sort of way to gaslight folks.

Speaker 4 You got to, if you're going to do black projects all over the world and the Congress isn't going to give you money. You need to find a way to make money.

Speaker 4 And there's no better way to make money than illegal drugs. Drugs are a great way to make money.
Human trafficking is a great way to make money.

Speaker 4 I mean, it's not, I'm not saying it's great, like morally great.

Speaker 4 No, but the intelligence community, there's these dark corners of the intelligence community that need money to operate and do the things they want.

Speaker 4 And it always seems like anytime there's a human trafficking thing going on or a drug thing, they always seem to be in the picture. The intelligence community.
They're always like there.

Speaker 4 There's always like a guy that knows a guy who's an asset. It's never like they're nowhere near it.
Right.

Speaker 4 They're always somewhere lurking around in that vicinity. No, isn't part of that their job?

Speaker 4 Part of that is probably their job. Right.

Speaker 4 Like if you're someone who's got an eye on national security and you want to make sure the terrorists aren't plotting anything, you kind of have to be a part of everything nefarious.

Speaker 4 To a degree. I mean, like, clearly, I'm devil's advocate.
For sure. Of course.
And I think you're right. As Dick Cheney said, we have to work with the bad people.

Speaker 4 Is that what he said? Yeah, he goes, we got to work with some bad people, like we weren't before. That was the funny thing.

Speaker 4 After 9-11, he's like, we got to work with some bad people.

Speaker 4 We're just working with too many good people. We actually have to start working with some bad actors.
And it was just like, everyone was like, that makes sense.

Speaker 4 So I'm going to bring in my business partners. Right.
So I'm going to bring in my friends and family.

Speaker 4 But you're right. I think to an extent there is an argument to be made that you have to have tentacles in these different things.

Speaker 4 Now, do you have to run blackmail operations with Jeffrey Epstein and P. Diddy? Do you think the government was involved in the P.
Diddy stuff? 1,000%.

Speaker 4 Really?

Speaker 4 I think they wanted to blackmail serious Hollywood people, serious music people, serious athletes.

Speaker 4 I think that

Speaker 4 Diddy opens up a different world than Epstein opened up. And I think if you want control over people in that world,

Speaker 4 there's startling similarities between Diddy and Epstein.

Speaker 4 And, you know, I mean, Diddy had the same head of security as Michael Jackson.

Speaker 4 What does that mean? Well.

Speaker 4 Was Michael Jackson in the government? No, Michael Jackson has been credibly accused of inappropriate activities. Oh, right.

Speaker 4 And he had a security guard that. Oh, I see what you're saying.
Yeah. Okay, okay.
It's just an interesting connection.

Speaker 4 But generally, like people that specialize in top-level celebrities like that, they work in the same circles. Yes, but those are two topics.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but I see that's what's interesting is like we didn't know about the Diddy thing until,

Speaker 4 look, I've been in Hollywood for, I was there for 25, 26 years or something like that. I didn't know about the Diddy parties.

Speaker 4 No, I think you have to get invited to a white party like on like fucking People magazine or something like that. Well, I think it's just one of those things that like

Speaker 4 you're invited to and you could go and show up there and stay for an hour and and it's all completely innocent and then there are after parties or certain things well they would tell people right, you know at midnight every you better go the fuck home or it gets wild be prepared to freak off and there's targets I think people they want leverage on certain people well certainly if you have artists right like say if you have an artist and he's the next Tupac right and you imagine the amount of money a guy like that can generate if you have some like super talented artist right

Speaker 4 fucking compromise them yeah well that's right

Speaker 4 And now you have him and now he's got to kind of do what you want. You know the Jimi Hendrix story? No.

Speaker 4 So Jimi Hendrix, one of his bodyguards, one of his bodyguards or one of bodyguards, like someone who was involved with him wrote a book.

Speaker 4 And the book was essentially alleging that Jimi Hendrix was killed by his manager, who was a mobster, because Jimi Hendrix was about to leave his manager.

Speaker 4 And what happens with a lot of these artists is whoever's controlling them might have ownership in their titles, might have ownership in their music.

Speaker 4 And if you think someone's gonna leave and you kill them, like now you have all their music and you essentially can keep selling it forever, especially someone like Hendrix. Like

Speaker 4 he's actually worth more to you dead than alive. Then if he leaves you and you're not making money from him anymore, he's worth more to you dead.

Speaker 4 Well, there was that whole thing with Diddy and the Biggie shooting. Well, also, Diddy's exes,

Speaker 4 his ex, someone who knew his ex, they all died of pneumonia. Right.
You can give someone, there's certain chemicals, poisons that you can give people, and it results in pneumonia.

Speaker 4 You know, I don't know if these autopsies even check for that stuff. Right.
Probably not. I don't know.
I mean, what is it? Is it like cyanide? What is it, Jamie?

Speaker 4 That like because we did Google this at one point in time. That there are certain poisons that you can give someone and they'll die like they died of pneumonia.

Speaker 4 And like a bunch of people around him died of pneumonia.

Speaker 4 That's a weird. I don't know anybody who does.
Hollywood will never recover

Speaker 4 from

Speaker 4 the last few years, like the knowledge that a lot, and listen, there's so many talented people. Here it is.

Speaker 4 Lung injury, renal cyanide poisoning may also cause respiratory symptoms of bronchitis, lung edema, and pneumonia. You just give someone cyanide.

Speaker 4 And wasn't, didn't one of his bodyguards say that they tried to poison him three times?

Speaker 4 There's like one of his bodyguards came out recently, and he was doing some interview and said they tried to poison him.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I mean there's a lot of those claims in those interviews, but

Speaker 4 who knows what's real? It's hard to imagine that Hollywood recovers from just the slew of bad and truthful press. So much shit went down.
So much dark shit. Also, just how stupid they are.

Speaker 4 Like the Will Smith thing.

Speaker 4 When they gave him a standing ovation after that, this is so stupid. Like

Speaker 4 you guys don't think straight. This is you're thinking nutty.
It's a very isolating, strange place. And I've lived there on and off for a long long time.
Not long, but four or five years.

Speaker 4 But like, I go, I do my sets. I have a few friends.
It's not a place conducive to making friends. Everyone's too far away.
Not anymore. Not anymore.

Speaker 4 We used to have the store. That was the hub.
That was a hub of comedy. Yeah.
That was when we would go.

Speaker 4 It was so good. Those years were so good.
They were great years. From 2014 to 2019, it was so good.
It was so good.

Speaker 4 Or you'd have like a friend who wrote on a show and then they had a crew of people because they all worked together. But now it's all fallen apart, right? And it's just kind of lonely and

Speaker 4 vacant. It's a vapid culture now, right? Because, like, a lot of the comedy is like diluted significantly, and then you don't hear a lot about music coming out of LA anymore.

Speaker 4 I'm sure I'm sure people are still gripping making it. Well, in LA, the music now is like young rappers who are all white and are all drinking cough syrup.

Speaker 4 and what happens now in LA is there's a parking lot like full of kids and a van will pull up and like five security guards get out of this van and then they pick up this child who's like asleep because he's drank so much cough syrup and then they sit him on the top of the van and he says things that aren't words.

Speaker 4 He goes,

Speaker 4 one of them just yells, slut truck.

Speaker 4 And he's a talented guy, the Netspend kid. But he goes, he's on, they put him on the top of a truck and he goes, slut truck, slut truck.
And then everyone cheers.

Speaker 4 I guess sluts are in the truck. I imagine this is something about this.
Then they take, they pick him up like a billica child. They pick him up and he kind of waves.

Speaker 4 And then they put him back in this van. And then they drive him away.
And everyone goes nuts. That's the music industry now.

Speaker 4 That's what it is.

Speaker 4 It used to be like Joplin or Hendricks or whatever, or even Big E or Tupac, whatever. But there's also a bunch of people like Oliver Anthony that like emerge online.
You know, Zach Fire

Speaker 4 just because of being online. Well, this kid emerged online too.
But I mean, he's, yeah. But we're talking about L.A.
Listen, you can be talented.

Speaker 4 There's James McMurtry in Austin who's amazing and plays at the Continental Club. There's tons of great music.
Yeah. But a lot of the young rappers are white suburban kids who have drug problems.

Speaker 4 I think it's a weird place to be an artist now. Yeah.
It's not the same place.

Speaker 4 The soul of it was destroyed during the pandemic. There's something about like realizing that it's so inept and corrupt and stupid.

Speaker 4 The laws were so stupid and everybody was just so, it was so, everyone was so weirded out there. I think people lost confidence.
There's a darkness. It's so funny.

Speaker 4 It's like New York never has that darkness and New York is this crazy frenetic place. Right.
But you don't feel bad in New York. No.
You don't feel like dark. Right.
LA, you get depressed.

Speaker 4 You're like depressed. And it's pretty.
That's the other thing. I know.
L.A.'s pretty, but it's like depressed. New York is like gray and everyone's running around, but there's like a soul

Speaker 4 to it. Well, in New York, people aren't trying to get famous.
And it's like that permeates every aspect of what LA is. Yes.
It's this desire that so many people have when they're there to be famous.

Speaker 4 There's so much proximity to fame, and then there's so much like, who do you know? Do you know famous people? Are you going hanging out with famous people? Oh, we went to George Clooney's house.

Speaker 4 You know, we went to this guy's house. We're hanging out with this guy on Malbu Beach.
Yeah. You know, it's cool.
Like, you're in the right place.

Speaker 4 Like, that's like, it's part of like the currency there. Right.
Is fame. And so that's a vapid.
Which is now meaningless. Meaningless.
It has no meaning. Talk to a meaning.

Speaker 4 She's more famous than most actors on television. It has no meaning because

Speaker 4 it isn't assigned anymore based on anything. Right.
It's not talent. Right.
You're not Hendrix. No.
You're just some person. And you have a twist.

Speaker 4 There are people that are very talented, but then there are people also that are just, you know, they're good at getting famous and staying famous. Right.
And some of it.

Speaker 4 You know, like this family that screams and yells in a Costco

Speaker 4 and they sing songs in a Costco. That's their whole thing.
And they bring on the tonight show and they're really you've never seen the Costco family? No. The Costco family is a family of Cretans

Speaker 4 from

Speaker 4 Florida

Speaker 4 and they scream and yell and they have a song about Costco and they eat these cookies. I mean, can you please back me up here? Because he thinks I'm not.
How do I not know about that?

Speaker 4 That's the thing. They bring the boom.
They bring the boom. They bring the boom, Joe? They have the book.
They bring the boom.

Speaker 4 They bring the boom? I think they're demons, and it's an incantation, because they go double chocolate cookie.

Speaker 4 And I think it's a demonic incantation, and I believe they're the physical representation of an entity called Baal. And Roseanne talks about this.
What? Look at this.

Speaker 4 But it's an evolution. They got to the side.
How many views are on this?

Speaker 10 Well, this is just the YouTube version.

Speaker 4 They're big on TikTok. These are famous people, and this is...
This is something is wrong.

Speaker 4 this is as disturbing as the drones.

Speaker 4 Well, here's the thing about TikTok and the thing about reels and even Twitter to a certain extent.

Speaker 4 When you're just scrolling from video to video to video, like it doesn't have to be good to get your attention. No, it's the cringe element of it is what makes because every view is created equal.

Speaker 4 Right. So if you are repulsed by something and you keep showing it to people.
Right. So that's how you got this family.
Can you play their song?

Speaker 4 I mean, mean, Jamie,

Speaker 4 this is worse than the drones.

Speaker 4 And they're literally well known.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, this is like

Speaker 10 it's giving me ads for some reason right now.

Speaker 4 YouTube wants money. They just broke through the ad blocker.

Speaker 4 It's giving them money.

Speaker 4 I mean, don't they ever have enough these people?

Speaker 4 Bring the food, bring the

Speaker 4 This is satanic.

Speaker 4 This day on brand.

Speaker 4 So the point, the boom here,

Speaker 4 these guys deserve all the money in the world.

Speaker 4 They go eat, they eat this garbage, and then they go, they raid it on a boom meter.

Speaker 4 So they go eat this chicken bacon task. They're famous to these people.
Very. I mean,

Speaker 4 very famous.

Speaker 10 right now very famous

Speaker 4 they're everywhere

Speaker 4 pro wrestler maybe trying to show okay maybe trying to show he knows how to perform yeah for sure okay but you know it's like

Speaker 4 see look mr beast bringing the double chunk chocolate chicken it's a double chunk chocolate cookie i mean this is

Speaker 4 what is that it's a double chunk chocolate cookie it's an incantation it's demonic well that's why the drones are here

Speaker 4 but by the way imagine that's time like as much as i don't don't want this to happen, like, it is time. Don't you kind of want it to happen, though? It might need to.

Speaker 4 If it's aliens, I kind of want it to happen. I think it might.
That might have, they might have said, we're not doing that, the aliens. They might have heard double chalk chalk.

Speaker 4 And the aliens went, no, no, no, you fucking retards.

Speaker 4 We gave you technology thousands of years ago to figure it out. We visited the Sumerians, we gave them stuff, and you've used it to go to Costco enough.
Enough. We're sending the orbs.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's too much.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it is too much. So to base your life on fame is stupid.
The thing is, though, if you're that guy

Speaker 4 and that family, and now all of a sudden you're rich,

Speaker 4 which, you know, happened to a lot of these TikTok folks, all of a sudden you're rich. Why wouldn't you do it? Even if you're untalented.
I'm not blaming him.

Speaker 4 What I'm saying is that the culture, like Bill Hicks used to talk about you pay a psychic price. Yeah.

Speaker 4 If people know that they can get famous like that,

Speaker 4 it spreads.

Speaker 4 Yeah. It spreads like,

Speaker 4 you know, malaria. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And now everybody

Speaker 4 is being a monster to try to get attention

Speaker 4 without any discernible skill or talent. Right.
That infects the broader culture. And I think that's not a net positive.
I think you're absolutely accurate. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I wonder how long that's going to work. Like,

Speaker 4 is it going to be a trend that comes and goes like many other things? One hopes. Or is it going to expand and get more stupid?

Speaker 4 Like, if it's just about attention, if attention becomes something you can monetize, monetize,

Speaker 4 so you're essentially asking people to do more and more extreme things. That's why you have a lot of these people doing pranks and getting beat up in the mall.
That's right. The guy got shot.

Speaker 4 Remember that guy got shot? Yep. You kept harassing this guy.
Guy just pulled out a gun and just shot him in the stomach in the mall. Right.

Speaker 4 Could it get dumber? Like, let's imagine something dumber than TikTok. Let's imagine something dumber.
Like, what's the next stage of dumb that's going to shock you?

Speaker 4 That's going to get a lot of attention. I don't know, but it scares me if it continues to degenerate.
What would be next? I mean, you look at the Costco people, you go, God help us.

Speaker 4 What is that a precursor to? Right.

Speaker 4 And that's the scary thing.

Speaker 4 Well, you only have to do so. I mean, there's people now that are reviewing McDonald.
Like, there's people that go to the gas stations and eat the guy who makes food in the bathroom.

Speaker 4 And like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're making the sink.
Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 4 something's wrong. It's time for the orbs.

Speaker 4 There's a lot of stuff like that now where you look at it and you go,

Speaker 4 this is

Speaker 4 really base level,

Speaker 4 gross stuff. When my kid was young, my youngest was like nine, she was really into watching people eat on YouTube.
Right. Mukbang.
It's huge. My cousins, my little cousins are there.

Speaker 4 Did you have you ever seen lower middle class mom? And they're just feeding their kids poison?

Speaker 4 And every comment is like, stop feeding your kids this. And she's like, get ready with me.

Speaker 4 And then she just buys frozen food and cooks it and, you know, chops it and puts it in little lunch boxes. And these little monster kids grab it with their mitt and they just head out.

Speaker 4 And, you know, it's weird that

Speaker 4 they're doing stuff like this. You got to play.
I mean,

Speaker 4 look at this. Look at this.

Speaker 4 Lazy dinner for my middle-class family of seven. Joe, this is a cooking video.
She's plating Kentucky fried chicken. She got.

Speaker 4 She's plating

Speaker 4 fast food.

Speaker 4 Each of the kids are going to get a chicken leg.

Speaker 4 We got two sides of mashed potatoes and grapes. See, I'm torn here because I really do enjoy Kentucky Fried Chicken.
It is good, but this is odd that this is happening.

Speaker 4 It is odd that she's like dishing this out and anybody gives a fuck. That's very strange.
That's what's strange.

Speaker 4 And I think people are watching it because there is this weird factor of like people are kind of fascinated by

Speaker 4 this American

Speaker 4 diet of processed food. That's true, too.
And I think people are interested in it. Because when people come from other countries, they're not aware of it.

Speaker 4 Or, I mean, when people are watching stuff from other places,

Speaker 4 the strawberries, that evens it out.

Speaker 4 It's healthy.

Speaker 4 So I think stuff like this interests people.

Speaker 4 And, you know.

Speaker 4 They look at it and they're curious, and it's voyeurism.

Speaker 4 There's also a thing there that you're watching where there's a person who who doesn't have a lot of money right who's feeding their kids that's right and she goes she can do it maybe i can do it well there's a feeling a weird feel like when you're watching that like that's a person who's barely getting by they're barely getting by right they don't have like a significant amount of savings they're not doing well with their career right they're just trying to keep alive kids right at a cheap price yes and so they're showing you how they're doling out the food i know i mean

Speaker 4 but

Speaker 4 i prefer like the Rolling Stones to that. Yes.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 I prefer like the movie Heat

Speaker 4 to that. Like, I don't want to watch you barely keep your kids alive with Kentucky Fried Chicken.
It would be nice to have better things. I don't, but we just watched it and you told me about it.

Speaker 4 And that's why we watched it. And that's giving them more attention.

Speaker 4 It's my, you know, protesting. I'm protesting.
Protesting. But it's like, I'm also not a,

Speaker 4 you know, I'm not above any of the things I'm talking about. We're all human beings.
I'm just noticing that they're probably negative. Yeah.
I'm not saying I'm not tempted to watch this stuff.

Speaker 4 I'm not saying I'm not fascinated by it. We're all kind of weirdly, oddly fascinated by it.
I'm not saying I'm better than somebody that watches it because I'm watching it.

Speaker 4 I'm just probably, I'm just going, I think it's probably negative. I think when mediocrity and stuff like that rises in the culture, it's not an overall net positive.

Speaker 4 When everybody's chasing fame, which is a very unstable thing that is,

Speaker 4 you know, strange

Speaker 4 and

Speaker 4 ultimately,

Speaker 4 you know, a bad, it's a bad goal system to have.

Speaker 4 So I think when kids are growing up and they're watching this stuff and they're going, oh, I should just be internet famous and that's how I'll make my money.

Speaker 4 Well, you know that that's like a giant goal among kids today. It's huge.
Like it's as far as like job aspiration, influencers very high on the list. Do your kids know how

Speaker 4 like well-known you are or do you think they don't?

Speaker 4 It wouldn't be amazing if they didn't. Well, I don't know.
I'm sure it's pretty amazing. But they know.
Yeah, they know. They're super aware.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm a freak when I go places. And people just come up to you.
Yeah, it's a whole thing. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Most people are real nice. Right.
So it's not a real problem. It's just like most people are just being nice.
And that's fine. And most people are super respectful when you're with your family.

Speaker 4 Of course. They don't try to take too much of your time.
Right. You know, it's just, it's what comes with the job.
Not my people. Yeah.
They want my time. Yeah, well, they want my time too.

Speaker 4 Because I don't have a family, so I'm just sitting there alone. They go.
Yeah. They'll sit right next to you.
And they'll point to their girlfriend and they'll go, tell her how the Clintons fuck kids.

Speaker 4 Tell her. Tell her.
I keep telling her. She doesn't believe me.
Tell her. No one suffers more than the girlfriends of our fans.
I mean, one woman came to me and she said, I think you're really funny.

Speaker 4 And she goes, but every day I hear either Joe Rogan's voice, Theo Vaughn's voice, your voice.

Speaker 4 And she goes, I just want it to stop.

Speaker 4 And sometimes she goes, sometimes she'll go like, I'll wake up and you're like yelling about something

Speaker 4 in my house.

Speaker 4 And my boyfriend's laughing. He goes, it's really funny.

Speaker 4 And she goes, why are you? And he goes, no, he's screaming about some waitress at a diner and nicked him off. And she goes, make it stop.
Turn it off. Why are we listening to this?

Speaker 4 Why are we listening to this? Well, ladies, you have your true crime shows. You have them.

Speaker 4 This is what we need as,

Speaker 4 I could say this as men for sure. And certainly as comedians and including a lot of comedian females, we need to talk shit.

Speaker 4 It's very fun. And it makes life enjoyable.
It makes life make more sense.

Speaker 4 The drones freak me out talking to the about you or to you rather about the drones yeah makes me laugh it's fun i would rather talk shit about what's going on in ukraine and laugh with you than really stay up at night freaking out about the fact that we might be

Speaker 4 because some people's job is to freak out that's not our job i don't want to freak out somebody in the cheyenne mountain whatever military underground base

Speaker 4 their jobs to be like following dots or yeah why is that one up in the sky for five hours right to go with that out and i'm so i'm wondering like if cheyenne mountain base if they're like are they all scrambling like what's going on or if you went down there are they just like drinking coffee like bored going like yeah what is this drill end in two days well i can tell you uh from the people that i know so i've been able to talk to some very important people nobody knows what the fuck is going on that's so fucking weird that's what's weird and there's

Speaker 4 a bunch of different theories and all of them are not good none of them are comforting the big one is the coming off the water one is a real bad one. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And this is like, this seems like not that big of a deal, but it is a big deal when you realize like, how are you fitting 50 suburban size drones on a ship? And you're maintaining them on that ship?

Speaker 4 Are you charging them on that ship? Like, what kind of an energy source are they using? How are they up in the sky for five hours?

Speaker 4 How do they go 50 miles out to sea to wherever the fuck this thing is that they're launching from? Are they transmedium? That means do you have a craft that's able to go into the water?

Speaker 4 And is there something in the water that's launching them? Do you have a giant military base under the water that I don't know about?

Speaker 4 Or does someone else have some sort of an enormous fucking underground, underwater submarine that's capable of holding these things on it, and we don't know it's there? That's terrifying, too.

Speaker 4 So is it ours? Someone's got to know. Someone has to know.
Someone knows. And now it's not maybe someone that...
You've spoken to, but there's someone somewhere that's got it. I bet it's very,

Speaker 4 very high up on the We're talking about like the men in black, right?

Speaker 4 It's not even one of the agency.

Speaker 4 like we've all heard of like the cia the nsa this is probably like one smart guy told me once he goes i go what's the highest up i was like the cia and he laughed and i go why are you saying that he goes you are saying they're the highest up because but he goes you've heard of them He goes, the deepest stuff is you don't even know.

Speaker 4 There are no, you've never heard of it.

Speaker 4 The deepest stuff you've never heard of. He goes, you know what the CIA is.
You know what the NSA is. He goes, there are things you have no idea what they are.
So I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 4 I genuinely hope it's UFOs. I hope it's UFOs because maybe they're coming to help us.
Or stop us. And put the Costco family in jail.

Speaker 4 Stop us. Stop us from the nuclear war.
Yeah, stop us. Maybe China and us are about to have a nuclear war and these aliens have landed and they're like, cut it out.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Like an adult showing up at the playground when two kids are about to fight. Like, hey, hey, hey.
Yeah. Settle the fuck down.
Settle it down. This is so stupid.

Speaker 4 And you guys are lying about why you're doing this in the first place. Right.

Speaker 4 I think that if I was an alien race and I wanted people to get accustomed to the idea that they're being visited, I would do this. I would do exactly what they're doing.

Speaker 4 I'd have things that behave like drones and they hover over the sky for a preposterous amount of time, way more than our drones can do.

Speaker 4 No heat signature, but they still move and behave like drones and they're not doing anything. So we assume they're drones.

Speaker 4 So you get people comfortable with the idea of things in the sky sky all the time. Then you make them a little more complex.
You have a few of them that come by that don't make any sense.

Speaker 4 You have a few, a few that are mixed in with these other drones that are doing things like that one in Arizona that shoots off in the sky. You have a few, and then you keep ramping that up.

Speaker 4 You slowly trickle it in. Instead of having some fucking three-mile long

Speaker 4 craft that's built like a boomerang hover over Washington, D.C., instead of having that, you slowly get people accustomed to the idea that there's things in the the sky that you can't explain and no one can explain.

Speaker 4 And then you just ramp it up. And then you have more disclosure

Speaker 4 conversations with Congress.

Speaker 4 You have more people coming out that are whistleblowers, like those guys that said when the David Grush hearings were going on, and those three guys they were talking to, do we have crashed vehicles?

Speaker 4 They all said yes. Are they of this world? They all said no.
Right. So what is, are these guys just liars? No, no, no.
They're going to jail. No, the aliens are there.

Speaker 4 So, if we not only know the aliens are there, but we have a crash retrieval program. If that's real,

Speaker 4 first of all, why are they crashing? How why are so many of them? Remember when Annie Jacobson said there's one thing that didn't make any sense?

Speaker 4 She said, like Roswell, she said it was, it was, they, it was like they flew a midget

Speaker 4 who had a weird disease, so he looked like an alien to scare everyone. Yeah, here's the Soviets.
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Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's a bunch of different stories that came out of Roswell because Roswell was too long ago. You know, Roswell's like, like, what did Jesus say to Matthew? Are you sure?

Speaker 4 That's what he said? Were you there? Like,

Speaker 4 Roswell's 1947. Right.
That's so long ago, man. Everybody's dead.
And also, it became a cultural focal point where everybody, I mean, the town has like alien merchandise everywhere.

Speaker 4 It's become like a part of the lore of the town. So it's tainted.
The story, the purity of the story is tainted.

Speaker 4 But the people that were involved in the story initially, when they talked about it afterwards, that's what's compelling.

Speaker 4 When you find out that they printed in the newspaper that they had a crashed flying saucer and that they took the rubble or the wreckage from this and flew it to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in two separate jets in case one of them crashed.

Speaker 4 And then Truman met them there. And then, when you find out that they were informed

Speaker 4 that they were supposed to do a press conference and show some wreckage from an obvious weather balloon and claim that this is what they found. And so you have this guy who's standing there.

Speaker 4 Is that Marcel?

Speaker 4 I think it's Jesse Marcel. You have him standing there, and they're holding this stuff that doesn't look anything like a flying disc.

Speaker 4 And they were informed that they were supposed to say this.

Speaker 4 And this is what he said later on in his life, that they told him to have this press conference and they told him to explain it away, but that they didn't know what the fuck that was.

Speaker 4 They didn't know what it was and that whatever it was, they had recovered some pieces of it.

Speaker 4 And you could take those pieces of it and it was a, it was like a metal, but you could take this metal and you could crush it like a ball and then let it go and it it would immediately go back to what it was right they don't know what it was made out of they found these beams some some part of the wreckage that had writing on it and they describe this writing as looking like an ancient language or hieroglyphics like very very strange writing like people have drawn images of what this writing looks like those stories are all very interesting to me because these are the people that had direct contact with the materials and were actually there and their version of the story is they can't explain what the fuck that thing was.

Speaker 4 But the military was very interested in what that thing was. I believe that if that actually was a weather balloon, they wouldn't care at all.

Speaker 4 You certainly wouldn't have Wright-Patterson Air Force Base on standby, Truman meeting them there, two jets flying the wreckage to make sure they don't wreck. All that stuff is very interesting to me.

Speaker 4 And the stories from the Bible, the stories from, I mean, if you read Jacques Valley's book on UFOs, there's stories that are from the 1700s, the 1800s. They're all really fucking similar.

Speaker 4 If I was an intelligent life force from somewhere else and I knew that there was these fucking psychotic monkeys down there with nuclear weapons and TikTok accounts and these motherfuckers are building

Speaker 4 an AI that is probably going to be smarter than them in a year.

Speaker 4 They're building quantum computers. They've got nukes pointed at each other.
This is, you got to watch these fucks. You do.
You got to watch them.

Speaker 4 Especially if we're going through like a transition that every species goes through. Like maybe every species goes from

Speaker 4 you become warlike to control your environment and to so that you're safe. You're still emerging from these primitive primates.
So you still have these savage instincts.

Speaker 4 As time goes on, you develop technology and resources and agriculture and all these different things to sustain large populations of safe people where they don't have to think about hunting and gathering and they can figure out technology.

Speaker 4 Right. And that over time, if you just let them keep going and don't let them blow themselves up.
And when did the UFOs really start showing up?

Speaker 4 I mean, the reason why the mothership is called Fat Man and Little Boy is because in UFO folklore, that's when all the ships arrived.

Speaker 4 That's when the Kenneth Arnold sightings, when all the, when they were over the White House, that's all right after World War II, right after the nukes got dropped, which completely makes sense.

Speaker 4 Right. Like that would be a point where they would have to step in and go, hey, hey, hey.
Right. Let's let you know there's something way more powerful than you fucking crazy apes.
Right.

Speaker 4 And if you play your cards right, you'll be us one day. Right.
But if you nuke it, it starts from scratch and now you're back to microbes and single-celled organisms and a molten planet.

Speaker 4 You know, and then it has to take a couple billion years to cool. And I mean, who knows what we can get? It sets you back.
We might kill all life on the planet.

Speaker 4 We might turn this planet into a dead rock. I don't know what happens when all the nukes get detonated.
I know it kills every person. Right.
Every person.

Speaker 4 There's enough nukes to kill everyone, all of us, the whole world. That's so crazy.
And if you were from another planet or a more advanced intelligence. That would concern you.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean, maybe they evolved in a completely different way where they didn't have to go through this violence that we go through.

Speaker 4 If you asked anybody today,

Speaker 4 what's the possibility in your lifetime there would be no war? Nobody says,

Speaker 4 nobody says that's going to happen.

Speaker 4 That's kind of nuts. That as technologically advanced as we are, as we're talking about, it's just such an accepted reality that there's always going to be a war somewhere.

Speaker 4 And it's always going to be groups of people that are told to go somewhere and kill people they don't know

Speaker 4 because they have leaders.

Speaker 4 And it's amazing that China and us can't share,

Speaker 4 you know, like there has to be a winner and there has to be a

Speaker 4 somebody on top. Well, if you're a mob leader, okay, and there's another guy on the other side of town and he he runs that side of town.
That's right. And you've always had a good relationship.

Speaker 4 The families have always been, you sit down, you have pasta on Sunday, you talk about business, but then one guy from your group goes over there and gets killed. Right.

Speaker 4 And then they lie and say that your guy killed them. And then they start sending another guy and another guy dies.
And then they lie about that. And then you know they lied about that.

Speaker 4 And then all of a sudden, you're not working together anymore. This guy wants more money for the shipments.
Our guys are at the fucking docks. And it just goes to the bottom.

Speaker 4 And you are sitting in your fucking penthouse. And then you have violence and you have chaos.
But if the families are working together, everybody's making money.

Speaker 4 There's a billion Chinese people. There's 330 million Americans.
There's plenty of people to make money off of. Sell them stuff, do the things

Speaker 4 that's profitable. That's what I always hoped would dissuade a conflict was that there's so much economic opportunity.

Speaker 4 We don't want to, if we boycotted Chinese products, oh my God. No, we'd be so fucked.
Yeah, no. We'd be so fucked.

Speaker 4 But we got to make it so that we can all share this idea that one person is not saying it, but secretly trying to overthrow governments. You know what I mean? Well, that's

Speaker 4 part of the problem. That's part of the problem.
And this is what I think the deep state really is scared about with Trump, because he genuinely wants to stop the wars. Like he's openly saying it.

Speaker 4 Yes. That we've got to stop people from dying.

Speaker 4 That shouldn't be controversial. That shouldn't be something that the left opposes.
They also don't like that

Speaker 4 he can't be controlled. Right.

Speaker 4 And they have for a very long time

Speaker 4 used people's secrets. and vulnerabilities to control them.
And financial. And financial.
Right. The fact that he paid for the entire campaign himself.
That's different.

Speaker 4 Or funded it or had, you know, figured out a good idea.

Speaker 4 It's different. There's an accepted practice of how that town runs and the world runs.
And they don't like the idea that they can't control people.

Speaker 4 It's just dangerous to let people continue to control people when the entire country is set up to have a limited amount of control for a limited amount of time so that the will of the people is met.

Speaker 4 That was the idea behind it when they first started: the idea to prevent tyranny. To not have some person stay in for more than two terms.
You know, there's a bunch of different fail shit.

Speaker 4 You got the House, you got the Senate, you got a bunch of different, you got the Supreme Court decide over things. They're appointed for life.
You got

Speaker 4 a lot of things that are set in place, a lot of amendments, and these things that are set in place to protect your rights. You can't fuck with those.
You can't fuck with those.

Speaker 4 Because the moment you do just to have your team win, you set it up where we're living in chaos. We're living in hell.

Speaker 4 There's never been a fucking socialist, Marxist, Leninist country ever that worked out.

Speaker 4 And it's all coming from institutions like universities that are living in fantasy land. They're all fucking.

Speaker 4 Well, they all just want to reorder this hierarchy and put themselves on top. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And they want to elevate mediocre people. Yeah.
And, you know, and that there's always an ulterior motive for whatever they say.

Speaker 4 One of the things that's encouraging over the last couple of years is that people culturally have begun to see through it. Yeah.
They know what it is.

Speaker 4 They know what it is. More now than I think ever before.
More now than ever. I think COVID woke a lot of people up.
It woke a lot of people up.

Speaker 4 And I think people are looking at all this stuff and they're going,

Speaker 4 if it feels irrational,

Speaker 4 it is. Yeah.
You know, you have a gut, you have instincts, you can trust them. If it sounds insane,

Speaker 4 it is. It is.

Speaker 4 And for sure, these people that are telling you that everything is perfect and everything works amazing and everything is excellent and stop listening to the people that are saying differently, they're not telling you the truth.

Speaker 4 There's no way they can be. There's no way they can be about anything.
Fill in the blank, whatever subject we're talking about.

Speaker 4 Pharmaceutical drugs, whether we're talking about the environment, whether we're talking about energy. No one's telling you the truth.
What do you think about this kid who shot the CEO?

Speaker 4 Do you think he'll get convicted? Well, it's pretty obvious that he shot him, if that's the guy. I mean, there's a video of him doing it.
Was he denied a claim or was someone near him denied a claim?

Speaker 4 He had these back problems. United Healthcare was not his healthcare provider, but they are the biggest, I believe, and they deny the most claims.

Speaker 4 And he ⁇ the target is interesting that he chose that guy. I guess he chose him as a symbol.

Speaker 4 of the inequity in the healthcare system and how fucked up it is. It is a fucked up system.
Why wouldn't he go after a CEO CEO of the company that actually?

Speaker 4 That's a great question, and that's a question that people are asking. Was he mentally ill? Well, obviously.
To be able to do that, you have to be at least at some level of health.

Speaker 4 You know, he was a smart guy who had an Ivy League education and a wealthy family, but apparently he had maybe had a psychic break in the last three or four months where he

Speaker 4 was writing manifestos and reading a lot of Unibomber stuff.

Speaker 4 Really?

Speaker 4 Unabomber? Yeah, he was a big fan of Ted Kaczynski.

Speaker 4 And he got kind of, he disappeared for like three or four months. His family was looking for him.
Friends of his were looking for him. He went to some commune in Hawaii.

Speaker 4 And there's actually a video of the guy in Hawaii that like was like, we let everyone in that has love in their heart. And Luigi had love in his heart, you know.

Speaker 4 So I think he was like hanging out with them. And

Speaker 4 this back problem was very,

Speaker 4 you know, disruptive. It fucked his life up.
What happened to his back? I don't know. He had something.
Did he get fused?

Speaker 4 I don't know if he got fused, but I know that

Speaker 4 there was a backish x-ray images on like a clickbait YouTube video that was talking about his healthcare claim. Yeah, there was a like, I think his profile picture was like his back.

Speaker 4 He had like some surgery. So maybe you're right.

Speaker 4 That's a scary one. When you get surgery on your back, I don't know anybody who's gotten surgery on their back where they're like, it made it feel so much better.
Right.

Speaker 4 It's a very troublesome area to work on. I do know people that have gotten artificial discs, particularly in their neck, and it worked out really well.
Right. Yeah.

Speaker 4 My grandmother had a pig valve in her heart.

Speaker 10 That's in his header photo, so people assume that's him.

Speaker 4 That's his low back.

Speaker 10 That's, again, it might not be him. It's just a picture he posted, but that'd be a weird thing to do.

Speaker 4 So those are screws, right? Yeah, that means he got his discs fused in his low back. So what happens when you do that, especially if you look at that young man, he's very jacked and active.

Speaker 4 What happens is now the disc above that is going to get an unusual leverage on it, right? It's not moving the same way because all of them are supposed to articulate together.

Speaker 4 So all the discs, so you have discs and then you have your spinal column, so you have these bones and the discs, right?

Speaker 4 And the discs are mushy, and they're supposed to like, you're supposed to have muscles around those bones, so it stabilizes everything and everything kind of moves and bends and becomes pliable.

Speaker 4 As soon as you have a bunch of them that don't move anymore, now this area is going to take a lot of pressure. What do we think will happen? And a lot of times people have to get that one fused.

Speaker 4 Do we think he had an injury? Is that what would make somebody? I believe we did. Yeah, I believe we did.
But that's a really common place to get your back injured.

Speaker 4 There's other, if anyone's listening and this is happening to you, there's other different ways that, you know, and I'm not saying that people, some people don't need back surgery. I'm not a doctor.

Speaker 4 I'm just saying that I know of many people that were considering back surgery that found alternative methods to heal their back, and they didn't need to be fused.

Speaker 4 Some people are bone on bone, and those are the people that are the best candidates. Those people have been suffering for a long time.

Speaker 4 They're the best candidates for these articulating titanium discs. My buddy Eddie has one in his back.

Speaker 4 I have a couple friends that have them in their necks. I know three UFC, four UFC fighters that have them in their necks.

Speaker 4 So they take your shitty disc out, and a lot of these guys are experiencing like crazy pain, like elbow pain, atrophy of their muscles because their nerves are pinched.

Speaker 4 They put this disc in, instant relief. Then I know some other people that have done it, and they're still struggling.
What do you think about the reaction to it when people were kind of cheering?

Speaker 4 It was wild, but it's to be expected.

Speaker 4 There's this anti-corporate sentiment in this country. This is anti-capitalism sentiment in this country.

Speaker 4 This is at the root of like when a lot of it coincides with like the Free Palestine people, the BLM people.

Speaker 4 There was a lot of sentiment in this country there's a mentality to attack corporations and attack capitalism and so when someone someone made a tattoo of this cat did they they they took

Speaker 4 well the healthcare industry seems like the most depraved industry it's very depraved if you're gonna get angry at an industry it seems like the healthcare industry does fuck over the most people and incentivizes companies to deny care and put profits over humanity yeah So that,

Speaker 4 as a target for rage, makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 4 But I also don't think you could have a society where people just go around shooting people in the head. No, you can't have that.
No, it's not. That's not,

Speaker 4 as a society,

Speaker 4 that's

Speaker 4 not going to work.

Speaker 4 I'll send it to you, Jamie. I found it.
But it's also one of those things where it's like... you feel cool saying it.
Like when Trump didn't die and people like, he shouldn't have missed.

Speaker 4 I wish that guy didn't miss. Do you really mean that? Because, like, I think it's a thing that people just say.
I don't think you really mean that.

Speaker 4 I don't think you want someone to get assassinated, even if you don't like them. That's crazy.

Speaker 4 There's too much

Speaker 4 loose talk

Speaker 4 with regard to subjects like that, where people say that. See, hit the volume.

Speaker 4 Oh, he has face tats. Yeah, but listen to what it's saying.

Speaker 4 Hilarious.

Speaker 4 And he's got the caduceus on his neck. So he's got the pharmaceutical symbol on his neck.
And someone took a photo of that. So much of this is that he's an attractive guy.
He's a hot guy. Very

Speaker 4 six-pack. He was, you know, that, I think, is, and he was from a rich family.
And

Speaker 4 that, I think, as a hero, as a folk hero, there's a romantic quality to that. There's a little bit of that, especially if he was justified in what he did.
You know, like if he himself had a story.

Speaker 4 I don't know if he does. And that's interesting because people have not been able to identify whether he personally other than his back problem.

Speaker 4 There was a woman that I was watching in a video today where she was testifying that she denied someone she was working for an insurance company and she denied someone medical care and she was rewarded for it and the person wound up dying.

Speaker 4 And she said she went on to get

Speaker 4 a better job and make a lot of money and she was confessing and she was talking about it and she was saying that

Speaker 4 she feels great guilt, that this was just a part of the culture and a part of the job. And she was told she did a good job by saving the company money.
And it was just about saving the company money.

Speaker 4 And they could have provided life-saving health care to this person if they approved that.

Speaker 4 It would have been expensive. The person would have lived, and she would have probably not been able to get a better job, which is really this is the one industry in which

Speaker 4 the capitalist philosophy is challenged in a way that makes the most sense to me, because when you have a two-year-old who's born with a tumor or a condition, and that child has not existed on earth long enough to even know what's going on, and his parents don't have the resources to help that child, the idea that we, being such a wealthy country, wouldn't

Speaker 4 provide care

Speaker 4 or that that family would have to go bankrupt or lose their house just to try to keep their kid alive does seem terrible. It's insane.
Yeah. It's insane that we, look, I'm not for socialized medicine.

Speaker 4 I don't think that that's the best way to do it because I think you want to incentivize people to be the very best at what they do.

Speaker 4 And a lot of these badass motherfucking heart surgeons, these badass motherfucking brain surgeons, they want to drive Porsches. They want to live in a big house.
This guy's awesome.

Speaker 4 He's the best at what he does. All the fucking New York Jets go to him and they want to get their knees done.

Speaker 4 I like those guys.

Speaker 4 Those guys are important. It's important.
And gals, I'm not trying to be sexist. Whoever the fuck is the best at what they do, I want those people to be rewarded for it.

Speaker 4 However, I think that when it comes to health care, if we can spend $175 billion on Ukraine,

Speaker 4 I think we can provide a safety net for the low-income and middle-income people that would get bankrupted by medical bills that are impossible for them to ever pay.

Speaker 4 You break a leg and you don't have a health insurance. You get hit with a $300,000 bill or whatever it's going to cost.
How the fuck? You can't even work for like a year.

Speaker 4 Like, how long does it take to heal a fucking broken thigh bone?

Speaker 4 Well, it's another reason you need to have an immigration policy that makes sense because if you're going to provide those types of services to people, and we agree that we should,

Speaker 4 you can't just let anybody in. You can't let anyone in.
It has to be for a citizen and there has to be a social contract between a citizen and the government. That's the entire basis of a nation.

Speaker 4 Well, front. You don't have that.
It's a problem. But let's, I mean, that's definitely true.
But let's just say just the citizens, just the citizens.

Speaker 4 Most citizens are fucked if something really goes wrong. Right.
And that shouldn't be the case. That doesn't have to be the case.
Right.

Speaker 4 If they could print up all this fucking money and send it all over the place for all sorts of different things, they can most certainly provide a national safety net for people.

Speaker 4 And, you know, it could be a thing.

Speaker 4 Like,

Speaker 4 we all accept that there's certain things where socialism works right and i always use this example and i stole it from somebody else i can't remember who i stole it from but it's totally true the fire department the fire department is a great example of socialism right we all agree that you should put out the fucking fire and we don't want your house to burn down because you don't have any money because then it's going to burn my house too and everybody else's house so we all chip in the fire department gets paid it's not like they call you you know or you call them rather and say your house is on fire and they say oh mr dylan you don't have fire insurance.

Speaker 4 We can't send a fire truck. No, the fire truck's there for everybody.
Right. It's a good example of like necessary socialism.
Sure. So there's some things that are good socially.

Speaker 4 And I think that the word socialism is the problem. It's like it should be a part of the community assets, right? Police.
Yeah. Education.
It should be paid for by the people.

Speaker 4 It shouldn't only be like you have to be rich to get a private education because otherwise you're fucked, which is the case.

Speaker 4 Yeah, most countries that people call socialist are actually capitalist countries they have generous welfare states but they also have a ton of private industry some of them like norway and stuff have a lot of oil wealth and they have

Speaker 4 they don't have uh a marxist

Speaker 4 uh like complete you know where like there is no private property right and no private industry right that's not nowhere works like that nowhere is going to work and you get like that you get dictators and a lot of those smaller socialist countries work and are easy because the populations are relatively homogenous and they share the same values and they want the same things.

Speaker 4 And they're pretty small. And they're small.
It's nothing like...

Speaker 4 No, if you have six million people and they all look like they're related and they all believe in one culture and that culture is not about standing out or making lots of money or being innovative.

Speaker 4 It's about some simple things and there's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 4 It's much easier to have a socialist country than it is to have a country with 300 million people where you have religions from all over the world and different cultures and different values and people that want different things.

Speaker 4 That's a much tougher country to have that policy. And it gets really fucking cold in the winter, which kills all the homeless people.

Speaker 4 And that's a great idea. You can't camp out.
You can camp out in L.A. all year round.
Oh, you can't. All year round.
Obviously, people do it. They live for years out there in those tents.

Speaker 4 They have communities. It's huge.
Huge communities and people living in tents. Try that shit on ice.

Speaker 4 It does seem to be like we're heading to a direction where we're going to need either a universal basic income. Yeah.

Speaker 4 There has to be some, because AI is coming. Automation's here.

Speaker 4 The Waymo cars go by.

Speaker 4 You're seeing all of this going, what are these people going to do? What are the gig economy people going to do? They deliver DoorDash. They work.

Speaker 4 They work at the front desk at a hotel.

Speaker 4 They're one of the last remaining bank tellers.

Speaker 4 They work at a fast, casual food restaurant. Those people's jobs seem to be hours away from being gone.
Yep, 100%. Yeah.
Yeah. I don't think there's any way around it.

Speaker 4 And I think for those people, you know, this whole idea of them finding a new thing to do, some people just aren't designed that way. And they're 50%, right?

Speaker 4 So their whole life, they've been, you know, serving drinks to people, and all of a sudden that goes away.

Speaker 4 If you get to a point where the 50% of the jobs that are available right now don't exist anymore, like we are all the manager at Blockbuster Video, that's not outside of the realm of possibility because most of these jobs didn't exist 200 years ago the the idea that some new groundbreaking technology would eliminate the need for manual labor across you know pretty much every industry you can imagine especially cars like dr if they can figure out the autonomous driving car thing and they're pretty good at it though i was watching a video where these ladies went to the airport and one of those waymo things yeah seemed fucking normal right they were just complaining the seatbelts were too small but other than that you're sitting in the back seat and and I guess the seatbelt's lock in on you.

Speaker 4 Yeah. But

Speaker 4 it works. It works.
The fucking driverless car, I photographed one the other day or videoed on my Instagram driving around Austin. Jaguar.
Just driving around.

Speaker 4 They work. So if that's the 2024 version of that thing,

Speaker 4 what's the 2028 version like? What does the Tesla look like in 2030?

Speaker 4 You can download an app now, and I think it's Hilton or one of these hotels and open the door to your room with a QR code and never see a person.

Speaker 4 Not go to a front desk,

Speaker 4 not check in, everything's digital. You go in, you can order food to your room on an app.

Speaker 4 I mean, you don't have to pick up a phone and call room service. You don't have to.

Speaker 4 So you're eliminating so many jobs

Speaker 4 that, and listen, high-end hotels where people want more service and they're able to pay for it will kind of keep those positions but if your kids got a fucking soccer game and you're going to tulsa and you just want to it makes so much sense of the world to go yeah we're all booked scan get in the rooms yeah we don't need anything here

Speaker 4 and you could run an entire hotel with almost nobody

Speaker 4 couple of security guards maybe one manager like not only only that, but if they can use fighter jets and they have autonomous fighter jets that beat all the regular fighter jet pilots in simulated combat 100% of the time, why wouldn't they have that for flights?

Speaker 4 Right. You probably don't need pilots anymore.
Right. If that thing knows how to take off and knows how to land, you know, I can summon my car.
You know, I can summon my car. That's crazy.

Speaker 4 Like, if I'm in a parking lot and I want my car to come to the front, if I park back there, I can summon it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 It'll come to get me that's crazy that's nuts and then I can press the address and I'll say take me home and it just takes me home right full navigation stops at red lights puts its blinker on when it changes lanes recognizes where traffic is goes around it right

Speaker 4 we're so close to not needing drivers and then that's gonna be great for the government they could just shut your fucking car down you know and all the rebels are gonna have like old Ford pickup trucks and shit carburetors right you're gonna like that's what Tucker drives you ever see Tucker's car yeah yeah yeah he drives a no navigation, no GPS, no nothing.

Speaker 4 Right. I never send him like Instagram stories or something because he doesn't even have it.
No. He doesn't look at any of that stuff.
He doesn't.

Speaker 4 It's kind of cool. It's the way to do it.
It's the way to do it. I'm pretty close to that.
He doesn't know who the Costco family is.

Speaker 4 I mean, I'm not close to that because I do go on Instagram a lot, and I really like to go on YouTube. YouTube's my favorite.
There's something about being a comic. You want to see what's going on.

Speaker 4 Well, it's also like YouTube for me is a nice escape. I get to watch a video about an ancient civilization or watch a guy go hunt bucks in the forest or watch

Speaker 4 a professional pool game. To me, it's like just entertainment.

Speaker 4 But the social media thing, man, I just think most people are not cut out for it. I think it's bad for you.
I think it makes you think you're in conflict all the time.

Speaker 4 Everybody's always arguing about stuff. People are dunking on each other.
I think it accentuates mental illness. I've known people that I'm friends with and I can't even talk to them anymore.

Speaker 4 because of their tweets. Australia just banned social media for kids under 16.
Whoa.

Speaker 4 That would be a problem in my house. They're done.
They go, we're not doing it anymore. Wow.
They said increase in mental health issues, increase in depression, increase in,

Speaker 4 you know, I believe suicide and things like that.

Speaker 4 They've got to just use that as an excuse to go door-to-door. We've heard your child's been TikToking.
We'd like to have him come out here, bring the phone with you.

Speaker 4 Please open your phone. I do think that's probably a good idea overall.

Speaker 4 Sort of.

Speaker 4 I think everybody's got to adapt and you just got to develop discipline and you got to develop the ability to recognize you're drinking too much.

Speaker 4 Bob, you're drinking seven drinks a night. That's too much.
Okay.

Speaker 4 I own a bar. I don't drink every night.
You know, you don't have to be on that fucking thing all the time. But Bob, Bob wants to seven drinks.
There's a lot of morons.

Speaker 4 You're always going to have that. Just like you're always going to have people that do stupid shit.

Speaker 4 It's just a part of being a human being and part of being a human being is learning from other people doing stupid shit. And I like to think that social media is exactly like everything else in life.

Speaker 4 When I see people doing things that resonate with me, like, oh, that seems crazy. Like, why are you arguing all the time? Like, what kind of life is that? How can you be happy?

Speaker 4 Is like the budget that much of a concern for you? Like, you're fucking screaming about it eight hours a day? Is that really your life? Or is this

Speaker 4 bad for you? Right. And just go, okay, listen, don't do that.
Oh, that guy's doing Coke every night and now he lost his job and he's

Speaker 4 don't do that. You know, oh, this guy, you know, is fucking driving drunk every night and now he killed a family.
Oh, don't do that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's like people have to do awful things around you so that you realize the consequences of awful things.

Speaker 4 You know, it's like when I was in high school, this kid that I knew killed his friend in a drunk driving accident. And I remember running into him on the street like

Speaker 4 maybe 10 months later. And I ran into him and I said, hey man, what's up? He's like,

Speaker 4 just like, just looking down on the ground, just deep shame and the horrible feeling and I remember thinking at that time fuck driving drunk man right fuck that that's so bad it's so dangerous to be hammered on the road and kill your friend

Speaker 4 right

Speaker 4 and so many people have gotten away with it so many people have driven drunk and gotten away with it it's just

Speaker 4 you know when you have a like drinking is such a weird thing because you go to a place to drink. How'd you get there? How'd you get there? Are you Ubering?

Speaker 4 Most kids today are Ubering, which is really wise. Right.
You know, they're smart. We're drinking.
We're going to go Uber. But old school people never Ubered.
No, they drove. They drove.

Speaker 4 And they drove hammered. You know, and it's trying to tell someone not to drive when they're drunk is one of the most frustrating and also scary things.
Right.

Speaker 4 Because you're like, this motherfucker is hammered and they're about to just get on the road.

Speaker 4 And they're about to go and potentially hurt themselves and hurt other people.

Speaker 4 I remember we were in Malibu once and this fucking guy and his friend were like play fighting, and they started throwing water bottles at each other, and everybody got upset.

Speaker 4 It was like a tense moment. You're like, these guys were out of control.
One guy was clearly hammered. And then his car pulled up, and he just got in and drove off.
And I was like, wow. Right.

Speaker 4 Like, that guy is sauced. It's crazy.
Sauced. And he was on the PCH, which is like the most deadly highway.
It's terrible. It's a terrible highway.

Speaker 4 People live there, and you know, they have all those houses right on the beach, and then like they back out.

Speaker 4 Crazy. People die every year.
Just people just

Speaker 4 plow into them there's so many people that are on their phone and they don't pay attention and they look down to grip grab something lipstick or something and then boom yeah going 50 miles an hour into someone's jaguar it's crazy it's a terrible place that road that road kills a lot of people every year isn't that where caitlin jenner before she was caitlin wow that's where she killed that woman yeah a lot of people die on that road it's a sketchy road and people drive fast and it's you know you've got to be careful it's on the coast too which is a distraction oh look at all the

Speaker 4 water, and then all of a sudden, you know, and that's one of the worst things in the world, I think, is

Speaker 4 the

Speaker 4 level of distraction

Speaker 4 out there. Oh, yeah, especially with phones.
How many times have you been on the highway? Crazy. You see someone weaving in out of lanes, and you look down, they're texting while they're driving.

Speaker 4 It's terrifying that you've got kids out there, old people, regular people. Everybody's on these phones driving at 100 miles an hour.
The best thing ever is is CarPlay. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I've never used the Android CarPlay, but I use Apple CarPlay all the time. It's fucking great.

Speaker 4 You can talk to it. You never have to take your hand out.
Hey, Siri, text Tim Dylan. Right, play this.
What would you like to say? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Hey, Siri, play this. It fucking works great.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Obviously, it's listening to you 24-7 for you to say you're Siri, so there are all those things that you said that are maybe unfortunate. Tell the orb what I said.
Yeah. Tell the freak

Speaker 4 that's really just a star. So

Speaker 4 you're not freaked. You're like,

Speaker 4 it's just what it is. We're just got a good deal with whatever it is, whether it's an alien invasion or War of the Worlds.
I certainly could get freaked out if I wanted to. I know.

Speaker 4 Sometimes I get freaked, but then I got to realize it's just, there's nothing you can really do about it. You have to enjoy your life.
There's nothing. There's nothing you can do.
Yeah.

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Speaker 4 You know, there's some people like Ryan Graves. He's got some UAP investigation thing they're doing.

Speaker 4 They think that they can find out what these things are, find out where they're coming from, and get answers.

Speaker 4 Great. I'm glad.
But right now, I don't have any answers. So I can't.
Elon knows. If he knows, he's not saying shit.
Right.

Speaker 4 That's very odd that he hasn't commented on the drones. He's not saying anything.
Not a peep publicly.

Speaker 4 And I think because, like, if it is something super serious with national security, he can't. He can't.
Right.

Speaker 4 He's got

Speaker 4 contracts with the Defense Department. Right.
I mean, he makes SpaceX. He makes rockets.
He can't talk crazy. Of course.
Not about that. Right.

Speaker 4 And if he didn't, though, ooh, he'd be the guy to talk to. Like, what do you think is going on here?

Speaker 4 Like, how are these things able to, like, what is the at least theoretical technology that would allow them to hover for five hours in the sky and not give off a heat signature?

Speaker 4 What would be the thing that would allow them to shut their lights off when incoming Jetson? Well, that's right.

Speaker 4 He's the most interesting guy to hear talk about it because he knows the most about this stuff

Speaker 4 as a public person that could

Speaker 4 just kind of go, hey, this is what's happening and how it's happening. Well, this is where you could show, where you could see how crazy people are today

Speaker 4 when they mock his intelligence. Yeah.
You don't have to agree with him. You don't have to like him, but to say he's an idiot, I mean, you can't say he's an idiot.

Speaker 4 I've heard he's a dumb person's version of a smart person. I'm like,

Speaker 4 what is your version? Yeah, you have

Speaker 4 sex standards. Right.
It's like, you know, one of those guys that sees like the hottest woman in the world.

Speaker 4 Well, there's also,

Speaker 4 it's like, Trump isn't funny. What are you talking about? Of course he's funny.
Like,

Speaker 4 I think part of the problem is people can't understand this duality, like

Speaker 4 not agreeing with someone, but also, you know, acknowledging that they have an appeal or that they're intelligent or that they're funny or that that they're whatever it is and to me i think

Speaker 4 true maturity is if you don't like someone still recognizing that that person has a value even though you personally are repulsed by them yes yes be objective be objective and don't don't be ridiculous yeah and there's a lot of people that are just ridiculous and they just they have a narrative in their head and they want to run with it no matter what have you seen the kids have you seen the controversy about uh miss france

Speaker 4 no okay is it a dude no no luckily right well i was i'm shocked it's not i'm like that would i could see how you'd be upset yeah on that one sure but no it's a black lady oh they're comparing yep and they're comparing her to these other women the problem is she's beautiful right is she not as hot as brigitte macrone she's really beautiful like and they're trying to find like photos of her where she's like crying or some weird angle and is it just racism they're just pissed i i think it's a thing where you're pushing back against dei so much that you see it even in places where you go where it's not there well what is a beauty pageant in the first place right there's a bunch of things they judge you on they judge you on yeah i think you have to give a speech right right you have interests you have skills yes there's a bunch of different things and then it's what you look like right so the question and answer portion if you have all those things but you look like shit I get it because it's supposed to be a beauty pageant.

Speaker 4 I get it. But if you have those things and you're beautiful and and you're upset because it doesn't represent France because it's white, well, a lot of black people live in France.

Speaker 4 Like, this is, France is not really

Speaker 4 a completely white country. Like, there's citizens of

Speaker 4 DEI is to exist. Let's have it in beauty pageants.
Well, see what they wanted in the controversy being that she's 34. Well, that is disgusting.

Speaker 4 She's too old.

Speaker 10 They changed the age two years ago to allow women over 24 years.

Speaker 4 Well, that is crazy. By the way, that is disgusting.

Speaker 4 She's 34 years old. That's disgusting.
That's crazy. Show what she looks like.

Speaker 10 I just typed in Miss France and that's all it comes.

Speaker 4 But just give me some images of what she looks like.

Speaker 4 She's very pretty. She's fucking beautiful.
And if you see her on stage, she looks fantastic.

Speaker 4 Like, if you see her when she won, the idea that this lady is not capable of winning a beauty pageant anywhere in the world is crazy.

Speaker 4 If you're just judging on beauty, there's different types of beauty. There's red-headed white freckle beauty.

Speaker 4 There's Brazilian hot tan beauty. There's Asian beauty.
There's all kinds of different beauty. That woman's fucking beautiful.

Speaker 4 It's reactionary stuff where people are just angry at this concept. Well, the thing is, there have been a bunch of instances of people winning these contests that were ridiculous.

Speaker 4 Some of them that were men. Some of them were obese.
Some of them that weren't.

Speaker 4 And I could see pushing. But now it's like people are looking to push back wherever they can.
Because

Speaker 4 people tend to

Speaker 4 become accustomed to outrage. They're looking to be outrageous.

Speaker 4 but this is one where you're like come on no it's enough for her because you don't think that lady could win that's crazy she should yeah she should she can fucking win but not at 34.

Speaker 4 but she's still hot no she's still hot but why is there a age limit by 34 you should have a kid you should have your shit together not be in a beauty pageant i guess you can see that argument i mean at 34 years old um

Speaker 4 I think you've only got like four years left of kids. As a woman at 34 years old, I think you should be put in a facility.

Speaker 4 Like a horse. Yeah.
So I think that's what the problem is. I think this woman still being out there.

Speaker 4 Women are hot pretty late these days. No, it's

Speaker 4 not

Speaker 4 a long time. You made a great point about like...

Speaker 4 It's just people looking to be upset about things. And like I said, DEI and a beauty pageant, I get it.
It is what it is, whatever. Yeah, but that's...
That's not DEI.

Speaker 4 But even if it, like, even if there was an example of DEI, DEI bothers me like if they're like, hey, we want diverse pilots. And you go, dude, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Speaker 4 Beauty pageants are somewhat meaningless, even though they're not completely meaningless. I'm scared when they're like, we need diverse surgeons.
And I go, no, no, no, no, no. You need good surgeons.

Speaker 4 Only. You need good surgeons.

Speaker 4 I don't care what my surgeon looks like if they're good. I've never in my life said, I want an Irish surgeon.

Speaker 4 I'm Irish. My grandfather came from Ireland.
I've never said, you know what would be good if if a guy named Malachi or Rory

Speaker 4 operated on me if I needed surgery. I like a guy with men in his last name.

Speaker 4 Gettleman. Yeah.
I want a Jew. I want a Pakistani or an Asian.
That's it. I don't really want like a fun surgeon.
No. You want him.

Speaker 4 I don't want like a wordsmith. Right.
I want like a, like we had a bad flight, me and Sam Talent. We left Amsterdam 35 minutes.
It was a private plane going to Luton, which is an airport near London.

Speaker 4 Not in London, but near it. And the pilot said, it's a little windy in London.
30 of the 35 minutes were absolutely fine. When we hit about 3,000 feet, something happened and it was not good.

Speaker 4 We got about 700 feet and we're like, me and Sam Talon are like, where the fuck's the runway? To the right, we saw the runway perpendicular to the plane. Not good.

Speaker 4 The pilot tried to, you know, get the plane in. You see him on the controls.
And we felt a gust of wind and the pilot was like, fuck it. You heard him say, fuck it.
You know, boom, we went back up.

Speaker 4 Oh,

Speaker 4 go around through like a bad storm. And then we had to land in Birmingham.
And the landing at Birmingham was very tough, too, because the weather was degenerating.

Speaker 4 Now, but you had two French pilots that were in great shape and didn't say anything. And they were just like AI machines.
And you had a Russian flight attendant.

Speaker 4 And to her, life and death have no meaning. It makes no difference.

Speaker 4 It's no difference. So she sits, says nothing, no expression on her face.
And these two pilots, and in that moment, you want the most skilled person for the job.

Speaker 4 You are not thinking about anything else. You're not thinking about, were they raised rich? Yeah.
How easy was it for them to go to flight school? Did their parents pay for their flights?

Speaker 4 All you're thinking about is, God, get this plane on the ground. Yeah.
And that's where DEI, to me, is

Speaker 4 the most insane and dangerous is when you start taking real important jobs and talking about shit no one gives a fuck about. Yeah.

Speaker 4 When you're on a plane like that, you don't give a fuck if it was two white pilots, black pilots. I don't give a shit who it is as long as they are really good at flying this fucking plane.
That's it.

Speaker 4 That's it. That's it.
That's how it's supposed to be with everything.

Speaker 4 It's just how things go one way and people recognize it's the wrong way. And then right now that's the over correction.
The correction is equality.

Speaker 4 I had an overweight woman pilot once and I went I don't like it I don't want me in the thing I don't want to fly and I didn't want this overweight woman

Speaker 4 not to her

Speaker 4 but she's like a chubby woman and she like barely fit in this and she's like in the she's like moving the thing and I'm like What is happening? Now, we didn't die,

Speaker 4 but I didn't love that. I want someone in the cockpit who's felt and in really good shape

Speaker 4 and doesn't have a personality. I don't want pilots to have a personality.
Yeah. Pilots should be very similar to machines.
You ever heard Rollins talk about this? No.

Speaker 4 You know, he does those spoken word things. He talks about what he wants in a pilot.
Like, what's the steel blue eyes? Yeah. The right stuff looks.
Yeah. High top crew cut.

Speaker 4 Like, we've had pilots that are too, like, friendly and they're just too, like, they come in the back and like talking to you. And you go, I don't want that shit.
I want military guys.

Speaker 4 I want guys that are ex-military or whatever it is. Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's really what you do. You really want military guys.
That's a great point. It's a scary job, man.
You're piloting a giant metal thing that's flying through the air at ridiculous speeds.

Speaker 4 And then you have to deal with the wind sometimes. Yeah.
It's scary.

Speaker 4 You want people that are just.

Speaker 4 Well, there was a push for that in comedy for a while. Yeah.
Because in L.A., certain clubs would literally have a quota where they have a certain amount of this and a certain amount of that. Right.

Speaker 4 A lot of people snuck through that shouldn't have been there. Right.
And, you know, one of the things that we set up at the mothership, we said,

Speaker 4 it's just funny. It's just a matter of way.

Speaker 4 Because of that, it's very diverse.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 4 But just through merit. Right.
Just through, because there's a bunch of funny people from all walks of life. Right.
And just find the ones who are good. Doesn't matter where you're from.

Speaker 4 You have to be good. You have to.
You got to work hard. You got to work hard.
You got to be trying to do this thing that we're all doing.

Speaker 4 And if you're not, if you're trying to make, if you're trying to derive value, if you're trying to get attention for something that's unrelated to the art form and everybody else is doing the art form, that creates a giant problem.

Speaker 4 And if it's effective, then it's even more of a problem because then other people start doing it. And then you get clapped or

Speaker 4 then you get like this distortion of the art where it's really people that aren't good at it.

Speaker 4 And so that's why they're trying to find some other way to generate energy, some other way to get attention and to get people excited.

Speaker 4 And that way is, you know, they'll try through like social causes. Like I've heard people say, like, if your comedy is not

Speaker 4 elevating social issues, then it's bullshit. Like, right.

Speaker 4 That's crazy. That's so nuts.
That's such a nutty thing to say. It's like, you know, if your music doesn't make me cry, then it's bullshit.
Like, no, that's not true.

Speaker 4 Well, it's also like everybody became obsessed with like lists and being on a list and having like a certain amount of people on a list. And you go.
Like what kind of lists?

Speaker 4 Like any of these lists that would come out from Rolling Stone or Vulture or list of the top variety or any of this. And people get really upset.
And you go, guys, it's not about who gives a fuck.

Speaker 4 Like being obsessed with that shit and who's on it and who's represented.

Speaker 4 It doesn't matter. It's not defining.

Speaker 4 Anyone can have a career now that works hard enough and really wants one and develops the talent. Yeah.
Because we all have this ability to be out there. Also, these lists are all curated.

Speaker 4 They're all curated. People pay money to get on them.

Speaker 4 And they get on there because of people's political leanings. They get on ideological leanings.
Right. Like when you see, when you go to you, here's a good example.

Speaker 4 You go to YouTube and you see the trending now. Right.
Do you know what was never on the trending now? Right. My conversation with Trump.
Right. It's got a, it got a, what is it at one point in time?

Speaker 4 1.2 million an hour. Is that what it was, Jamie?

Speaker 4 Something nutty like that and it wasn't trending well what is trending right show me what is trending right what kind of views they have right that's got to be crazy because this video's got 60 million views so what what views do they have right right right right that's insane no it's insane so that's completely curated so you can't trust that trending now thing because if it's trending now and it first of all what could be What could be bad about letting a person talk to another person?

Speaker 4 Whether

Speaker 4 you're trying to find out who this person is. What could be bad with that if this guy's about to run for president, whether you like it or not? What could possibly be bad about that?

Speaker 4 That you would try to stop it from being in your trending?

Speaker 4 Is it like when you just interview Donald Trump or you have the name Donald Trump, it can never be trending because they don't want to promote Donald Trump? Well, then what are you doing? Like,

Speaker 4 do you have a mandate?

Speaker 4 Do you have a very specific set of rules that you apply to certain people?

Speaker 4 Well, that's why I think when he's talked about kind of a cyber or whatever bill of rights, like this idea that you would not be able to be discarded by these companies without some type of recourse.

Speaker 4 And I think a lot of people hate that. Well, it's just crazy.
That the right, that what they think of as the far right, which is Trump, is pro-freedom of speech

Speaker 4 and trying to promote that on the internet.

Speaker 4 But the reason for that, selfishly, you could say, is because political people from the right were silenced for a long time right or at least censored on Twitter for a long time for sure and certainly marginalized and it was dangerous you know they could go after you they would try to get people fired for things it was it was you know it got pretty sketchy and then a lot of people got removed from Twitter that were right-wing people right you know including Trump I mean they literally kicked him off of Twitter right that obviously for a guy like him who's felt the effect of it being removed from the conversation remember we was tweeting constantly and and then all of a sudden silence right nothing and then and then people and and and and and and gavin mcginnis said this once i i don't want to take his point but he said when you're removed everyone can say anything they want about you you do not have the ability to defend yourself exactly and that's the goal narrative is painted that was the goal though that's what they wanted from him right they didn't want him to be able to say hey it's rigged check out this check out that they just wanted to you said that the election was rigged you're off forever no more talking which is a nutty thing to say if the guy is not in jail if he's not doing something that puts him in jail and i know he was tried for a bunch of stuff most of it i think was bullshit it was a lot of bullshit a lot of bullshit but the reality is if that guy is an american citizen and he's not doing anything illegal and he used to be the fucking president of the united states right removing him from the internet seems insane it's insane insane especially when you hear what he really said to those people that were at the capitol do it peacefully And then when you find out that these, now they said there was at least 26 FBI agents or informants.

Speaker 4 Informants. Whatever.
Whatever that happens. You're working for the FBI.
Right. At least 26.

Speaker 4 There. That were there.
At least. That entered.

Speaker 4 The whole thing is nuts. It's nuts.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 But also, if you had a real insurrection, wouldn't you want the FBI to be there?

Speaker 4 I mean, if you had a real group of armed militia that wanted to take over the Capitol and they had plans and they had fucking armored cars and that heat style,

Speaker 4 you would want someone in that group to tell you what the fuck is going on. But that wasn't the case.
No. That was not the case.

Speaker 4 But you also have photos and videos of people opening the doors of the Capitol. Fist pumping people.
Come on in. Yeah.
Here, I'll show you where the gavel gets handed. That's very strange.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 The whole thing's nuts. And there's also, there's people that have been in jail with no trial for years now.
For years. Right.

Speaker 4 And there's this crazy opposition to pardoning those people, but no outrage about the people that Biden has

Speaker 4 pardoned, including that Kids for Cash judge. I sent you that.
That's crazy. Fucking crazy.

Speaker 4 That judge and people whose children committed suicide because they were in that prison have spoken out and said this guy is directly responsible in their estimation for my son's death because he was taking bribes to give these kids crazy sentences.

Speaker 4 And some of these kids develop, you know, crazy psychological problems and took their own lives. So

Speaker 4 just imagine if you didn't do anything wrong. Even this guy railroads you into a juvenile detention center.

Speaker 4 And then Joe Biden lets him out of jail. Yeah.
Pardons him, commutes his sentence, whatever. So just

Speaker 4 look at things with balance, folks. Right.
For real. Look at things with balance.

Speaker 4 None of that makes any sense. And if the left is the side that's telling you that this person should be censored, like they're never supposed to be anti-free speech.
The ADL was always about it.

Speaker 4 I mean, there was a famous thing that they let the Nazis or the Ku Klux Klan

Speaker 4 have this rally because they said you can't silence people. The hardest thing on the left right now is for them to admit that the people that they have put out as spokespeople for them all have to go.

Speaker 4 And that's where no one's admitting.

Speaker 4 No one's admitting the real problem because then they would have to admit that they have to relinquish their job. They need a reasonable, like Clinton in the 90s.

Speaker 4 Not only do they need that, they need a media strategy where they don't have the most shrill

Speaker 4 voices out there.

Speaker 4 Meaning like they have a lot of people who are very dismissive of other people and they're incredibly annoying.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 nobody

Speaker 4 is receiving that message.

Speaker 4 And they have to change their strategy. They just have, they have children that are out there, like annoying children,

Speaker 4 just screaming and yelling. These Biden people, these young guys that are like screaming and yelling about Biden.

Speaker 4 And it's not based on,

Speaker 4 and I'm not saying the right doesn't have annoying people, but like the left, because they lost,

Speaker 4 they have to build a party around people you don't hate.

Speaker 4 If you're going to tell me something, I don't want to hate you. I don't want to hate the messenger.
Right. The view is not an effective way.

Speaker 10 There were two guys that were put in prison for this. The one that was released was already living on house confinement and only had two years left.

Speaker 10 The other guy is still in prison and will be there until.

Speaker 4 This is the January 6th people?

Speaker 10 No, the kids for cash.

Speaker 4 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Yeah, but who kid, number one?

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 more than one guy. He's an evil person.
Yeah, he's a clearly. This is a clearly terrible evil person.
So what exactly are you saying, Jamie? There was two other people that were involved.

Speaker 10 The one that was, that had, that Biden had his sentence wiped out only had less than two years left and was already in home confinement.

Speaker 4 The other guy is still in prison.

Speaker 10 I see. And was not let out.

Speaker 4 But still, the guy's at home confinement for two years. I think he can do another two years in his fucking house.

Speaker 4 He could do another two years in his house or go back to the jail that he put children into.

Speaker 4 I mean,

Speaker 4 it should be like... Jamie is working for me.

Speaker 4 I was confused. I was like, that's fucked up.

Speaker 10 Why would you you let the guy hold it?

Speaker 4 I'm kidding.

Speaker 10 Two of them. One of them's still in jail.

Speaker 4 You know, there's a lot of other stuff. You know, there's people that were Chinese spies that were on that list.
Yeah, how about his son? That makes sense to me. Well, it is.

Speaker 4 If you have a kid, you get it. He fucked up.

Speaker 4 You gotta fucking, you're gonna die. You don't want him to go to jail.
He hates everybody. If you had this

Speaker 4 pen, not only that, okay, they just ousted you in a coup. All right, but you're still the president for at least another month and a half.

Speaker 4 Of course, then, even though you've said you wouldn't do it, once they ousted.

Speaker 4 Because all the times of him saying that he wasn't going to pardon his son, wasn't he still the president?

Speaker 4 I mean, maybe if they let him be the president for a second term, maybe he wouldn't pardon him. Can you imagine explaining to him the aliens? Because he doesn't know.

Speaker 4 Someone's got a some in the deep, deep, deep state.

Speaker 4 You haven't heard him talking about the drones?

Speaker 4 Wonderful. See if you can find it.
Biden addresses the drones. It is.
Someone's going to sit him down and they're like in a black suit and they're like, hey, you're going to have to tell the country

Speaker 4 that there's aliens. He's a guy where you grab his hair who he's asleep on the park bench and you lift his head up and he starts talking.

Speaker 4 That's him right now. It's so bad.

Speaker 4 Well, there's only one. There's one that's ours.
It's basically ours. Watch this.
I mean, it's so bad. It's so bad that this is the guy that we have right now while this is happening.

Speaker 4 This is the guy who's communicating whatever is happening to us. All I can imagine is the people that are running this are letting him do this now.
Like, get him out there, get him out there for fun.

Speaker 4 Get him out. Let's see what he's asking.

Speaker 4 You know what it is? It's they're like, if we need to confuse people about what is happening,

Speaker 4 he's the guy. Did you find it anywhere, Jamie?

Speaker 10 Very confused of him.

Speaker 10 It seems like he talked about it in the dark with a hat on, but everything starts showing him at a podium. Oh, this is great.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he was in the dark with a hat on.

Speaker 4 The hat is perfect. Yeah, this is it.

Speaker 4 That's it. He looks dead

Speaker 4 on the matter.

Speaker 14 There's really nothing alarming about this.

Speaker 4 I believe you, buddy.

Speaker 15 Nothing the furious, apparently, but they're checking it all out.

Speaker 4 I think it's just one.

Speaker 15 There's a lot of drones authorized up there.

Speaker 15 I think one started and they all got everybody who wanted to get in the deal. But all the only dealers, we're following them too closely.

Speaker 15 So far, no sense of a danger.

Speaker 4 So that's free and CBS. Yeah, there's just one drone.

Speaker 4 Propaganda people. Come on, look at all that propaganda.

Speaker 14 Trump, on the other hand, says the military knows what the drones are. Mr.
Biden, though, doesn't seem to have that ominous tone. So, how do we square that? And what do you know today?

Speaker 16 Yeah, well, I think both of those things can be true.

Speaker 16 I think both sides are saying that the military does, in fact, have an idea or, you know, the semblance of an idea of where these drones are coming from.

Speaker 16 You know, we had a joint statement that came out from the FAA, the FBI, the DHS, the Pentagon, saying that a lot of these sightings are actually manned aircrafts or other

Speaker 16 things that are floating in the sky that are perfectly non-threatening and perfectly mundane. They said there was nothing anomalous coming out of their reports.
Now, we're going.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, that's enough.

Speaker 4 This sounds like a snippet right before an alien invasion movie. Absolutely.
Like a bunch of people saying it's non-nefarious, nothing to worry about. You got an ancient president.
It's like,

Speaker 4 it started off with one, and everybody else wanted to get in on the deal. It's so crazy.
He goes, I think it's just one.

Speaker 4 They don't tell him nothing. You're being reported all over the country.
But what do they even tell him? They tell him nothing.

Speaker 4 These reports about how the people working with them knew he was compromised right away. Oh, they know.
And how it kept getting worse and worse and worse, and they all hit it.

Speaker 4 That seems like that should be illegal. It should be illegal to lie about that, just like it's illegal to lie under oath.
It should be illegal to

Speaker 4 lie. It shouldn't just conceal the mental decline of the leader of the free world.
Not just conceal, but be deceptive

Speaker 4 in the way you're describing it. Like he's sharp as attack.
Yeah, I mean, this is just. It was great.
I mean, chilling. He's on TikTok right there.
He's eating donuts.

Speaker 4 You get us to start a TikTok channel where he just eats donuts. How the White House functioned with a diminished body.

Speaker 4 Diminished is a fun word because it could be like 99% diminished or it could be 10% diminished. It could be hungover or you could be almost dead.

Speaker 4 Well, I think the other thing, too, is like nobody's nobody fully understands who's running the country at the moment.

Speaker 4 No. I've described it like Tesla with auto-drive.
Like you have your hands near the StMOs. Like, is this thing going to do this?

Speaker 4 Nobody really, there's no authority that we're all, you know, obviously the president is not the only authority. We all know that.

Speaker 4 But it's the first time ever where the guy who's the president is incapacitated. Incapacitated.
Like completely. And we're just, we're looking at him like he's just a couple steps away from Carter.

Speaker 4 Right. Remember Carter? Yeah.
They said, Carter's so excited to vote for Biden. Right.
And he was like,

Speaker 4 it was crazy.

Speaker 4 Oh, he's going to vote for Harris. That's right.
It was by the time. He was laying out there in the sun.
He didn't know he was alive. His mouth was wide open.
It's so sad.

Speaker 4 It's so sad to watch that they're saying he's so excited to vote for Kamala Harris. Like, can I hear him say that? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Can you, can you, look at that? Can you tell me what he said? Oh, my God. I mean, that is so crazy.
Did you ever hear Hunter S.

Speaker 4 Thompson's recordings where he talked about, he wrote about it too, but I think it's in

Speaker 4 one of his documentaries.

Speaker 4 It might have been the Gonzo documentary, but he talked about how he heard Jimmy Carter, he'd basically after the last Nixon election, he'd kind of given up on politics, like, fuck this.

Speaker 4 This is all bullshit. And he was hired to go to listen to Carter speak.
And as he was listening to Carter speak, he ran out to his car and got his tape recorder.

Speaker 4 He said, Because this guy was making so much sense, and he was saying, like, Jimmy Carter was a beautiful president.

Speaker 4 He was like, He was one of the only presidents where you're like, Wow, this is like a kind, peaceful man. He built houses afterwards, yeah, never got rich, never got rich.

Speaker 4 He was one of the only presidents that, after his life, he lived very simply.

Speaker 4 He never did the speaking gig thing where you're making a quarter million dollars to talk to bankers, he didn't do any of that shit. Right,

Speaker 4 and see if you can find that like Hunter S. Thompson on

Speaker 4 Jimmy Carter. Yeah.
You got it. Here it is.

Speaker 11 The other two were Muhammad Ali and Sonny Barger, the president of the Hell's Angel. Those three men are a whole cut above everybody else I've ever run into in terms of sheer

Speaker 11 functional meanness.

Speaker 11 Functional meanness? Yeah.

Speaker 11 Well, meaning the ability to get from A to either B,

Speaker 11 C, M, Z, whatever you want.

Speaker 11 Carter would cut my head off to carry North Dakota.

Speaker 11 Cut both your legs off to carry a ward in the Prunks.

Speaker 11 Never apologized for it. He understands the system.
That's why he won.

Speaker 11 That's really all I said. I admire that.

Speaker 11 A person who played the game as well as he did

Speaker 11 and

Speaker 11 the sort of

Speaker 11 Magnolia shade that he'd played in for a while. He was perceived as sort of a southern ding bet.

Speaker 11 But I saw him push Teddy Kennedy around down in Athens and Atlanta. I had never seen Kennedy pushed around anywhere in any room.
And I was stunned.

Speaker 11 And I thought, oh, this was 1974.

Speaker 11 I thought, whoops, this is a bad one. We have to watch him.
And sure enough, he announced her leave to run for president. But,

Speaker 11 say, four or five months later,

Speaker 11 when he did, I thought, I thought I went back down to see him. I thought I should go talk to this man.

Speaker 11 Were you as impressed by his references to Bob Dylan and things as you appeared to be, or were you doing another little bit of Ebo gain writing?

Speaker 11 No, what he did in that speech that I constantly referred to in the article, and which Rollinson did not, you know, which Roland Zone did not run, which left me hanging out in some hideous slum,

Speaker 11 was just lay the whip and a... a serious whip song on all these lawyers at the Law Day alumni speech.
And this wasn't just the alumni of the University of Georgia Law School.

Speaker 11 It was was the distinguished alumni, Dean Rusk, Alden State Senators, judges. And he just beat the hell out of them.
He'd been governor for three and a half years, and they'd give him a hard time.

Speaker 11 The whole establishment had been against him. And he stomped on them in public.
I'd never seen a politician do that before. And he just pushed Teddy aside, like, oh, out of the way.

Speaker 11 You know, I've got work to do. Move aside.
And Kennedy was stunned. I was stunned.

Speaker 11 I don't take politicians' speeches normally. But about 10 minutes into it, I went to the car and got my tape recorder because I thought I never heard anything like this in my life.

Speaker 11 And I still haven't from Carter either. But what you're impressed by is the toughness and

Speaker 11 the naked.

Speaker 11 He will eat your shoulder right off if he

Speaker 11 has your mind. Have you changed your original impressions of him since he came to power, since he became president? No, that's what I said he was going to do, and that's what he's doing.

Speaker 11 He's just eating Russian shoulders right now instead of

Speaker 11 Humphreys.

Speaker 4 It's interesting. That's very different than the way they portrayed it in the documentary.
In the documentary, they left all that ruthlessness part out.

Speaker 4 Well, he's a president, so he's got to be ruthless, but I do think Carter seemed to believe in things that seemed to have a

Speaker 4 constitution.

Speaker 10 The speech you gave, it's called a message on justice.

Speaker 4 Wow.

Speaker 10 You can look it up. It's on his library's website.

Speaker 4 In the documentary,

Speaker 4 it's much more favorable to the way Hunter's talking about it. He was excited by him and excited by him quoting Bob Dylan.
That's interesting.

Speaker 4 Well, I guess if you're going to be the fucking president, you probably, I bet Kamala Harris is ruthless. She's incredibly ruthless.
I think you probably have to be.

Speaker 4 Think of how far she got

Speaker 4 with very little. Yeah, you got to be ambitious.
You have to be so ambitious. And it's impressive to me how close she got to the presidency

Speaker 4 without

Speaker 4 any discernible intellect.

Speaker 4 Really, truly. Like, she didn't display any.
I mean, listen, if you said she was a lawyer, great. If you said she was a manager, a mid-level company, sure.
That's all fine.

Speaker 4 She was, you know, again, she, you know, was, was, it was fine, it was all okay. But there's no,

Speaker 4 no, like, discernible

Speaker 4 intellect that you would think the president would have.

Speaker 4 And say what you want about Trump. People like him, they don't like him.
He has

Speaker 4 instincts that are somewhat unmatched in the political arena. He's able to speak extemporaneously for hours at a time.
He's passionate about things.

Speaker 4 He has lived a rich life and understands the facets of things and human beings and whatever. And, you know,

Speaker 4 again, it's presented in a much different way than

Speaker 4 it's been presented, right? He doesn't speak like Bill Clinton or Barack Obama or anything like that, but like he clearly is someone who possesses an incredible amount of political talent and skill.

Speaker 4 That's no one disagrees with that. Kamala Harris was an incredibly

Speaker 4 average, mediocre politician. And if you said she was the DA of San Francisco or, you know, a local position, but the fact that she got very close to the presidency, she has to be a

Speaker 4 ruthless, ambitious operator. And there is something impressive about that.
Yeah, I mean, that's the business. If you want to succeed in that business, that's what you got to do.

Speaker 4 If you want to succeed in TikTok, you go to Costco. You make songs.
I know. You should hold up a cookie.
I know. But you know what? Maybe the aliens are here to fix it.

Speaker 4 Thank you very much for doing this. I know this is your day off.
No, listen, I love you. I'm always happy to help.
I'm always happy to be able to do that. Thank you for letting me do

Speaker 4 the special. Dude,

Speaker 4 thank you for saving it.

Speaker 4 It's going to rule. No, you thank you for saving it.
Well, I was glad I could. It's nice to be able to do that.
And the people were cool. They did it.
I was all. That first show, I prayed you left.

Speaker 4 I said, God, I hope he's gone. We fixed it.
We fixed it. Where were you watching from? The green room or the balcony.
Oh. Yeah.
Oh.

Speaker 4 I was praying. I said, maybe he left.
You know, about five minutes in, I go, maybe he left. I go, he's probably, he's probably got a lot to do.
He's probably running around.

Speaker 4 I'm just happy you were doing four so we could fix it. Yeah.
Yeah, we did. We fixed it.
Thank Thank you. Kim, I love it, Jeff.
Love you. Thank you, Kim.
Appreciate it. Thank you, buddy.
Bye.

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