Harmeet Dhillon: The Shocking Origin Story of Kamala Harris and All the Crimes She’s Committed

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Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 you are roughly, you're younger than Kamala Harris, but in the same generation.

Speaker 2 You're an attorney. You're from San Francisco.
You first ran into Kamala Harris in 2003, 21 years ago. You know, everyone in her orbit.
You live in the same world.

Speaker 2 And so, with less than a month to go before the campaign, I thought it'd be interesting to hear the perspective of someone who actually knows a lot about Kamala Harris's life.

Speaker 2 There don't seem to be many of those. So thank you for doing this.

Speaker 2 Who is Kamala Harris exactly?

Speaker 3 Well,

Speaker 3 you see the words Kamal, chameleon, and, you know, nicknames like that applied to her today. Yes.
And she really has been kind of a shapeshifter throughout her entire career and existence.

Speaker 3 I would call her, in some ways, a survivor. You know, she's had a number of different environments, sort of growing up in Oakland to two university professors as a small kid.

Speaker 3 And then after her divorce, her mom took her and her sister Maya to Canada, where she went to high school and then started college there. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And then she,

Speaker 3 you know, came as almost an adult to the United States and went to Howard University and sort of immersed herself in that culture of the predominantly black college.

Speaker 3 And then she came to San Francisco, where she went to Hastings in the Tenderloin area of San Francisco. So educationally, she's kind of traveled all over the United States.

Speaker 2 She spent her high school years in

Speaker 3 Canada. Yeah, she spent her high school years in Canada and, you know, not in San Francisco.

Speaker 3 And so I think one of the interesting things that I found when looking at her background is the first time she registered to vote was at age 29.

Speaker 3 So really? Yeah. So many years after coming to the United States and during the year that she dated our former mayor and speaker, Willie Brown is the year that she registered to vote.

Speaker 3 And so connecting the dots, it seems like that might be the time when she decided that politics is in her future because, you know, she began to create a voting record and

Speaker 3 sending down reaches. She hadn't registered to vote before.

Speaker 3 There's no record of her having registered to vote until she was almost 30, which is, you know, I have nieces and nephews and I urge them to get educated and. register to vote and get active.

Speaker 3 And so, you know, it's kind of an important thing. So well after she became an attorney, well after she became a prosecutor, she hadn't registered to vote.

Speaker 2 Well, that's interesting. 11 years after she was eligible.
Yeah. Yep.

Speaker 2 And that's interesting, not because everyone has to vote, in my opinion, but because she's described herself repeatedly in public as a child activist. Yeah.

Speaker 2 She was basically leading the march on Washington. She single-handedly desegregated the American South.
Right. You know, she was always into politics.

Speaker 3 She was a warrior for freedom.

Speaker 3 You know, early on.

Speaker 2 And there wasn't, just for the record, there was no segregation.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 3 her mom was interviewed many years ago before she passed away and tells a story about how where they were growing up in Montreal

Speaker 3 in the apartment complex where they lived. Apparently, children weren't allowed to play outside.
So Kamala Harris single-handedly protested this and organized and forced the.

Speaker 3 apartment building to allow children to be able to play outdoors.

Speaker 2 So she was annoying as a child.

Speaker 3 She was a, she was, she was an activist as a child, you were a mom, but then you know, didn't exercise the most basic form of United States citizen activism by exercising the franchise until much later in life.

Speaker 2 And after she was a lawyer, how did she become a lawyer?

Speaker 3 Well, she became a lawyer, went to UC Hastings in downtown San Francisco,

Speaker 3 did not pass the bar the first time she took it, did pass it the second time around, and got her first job after that as a prosecutor in Alameda County. So

Speaker 3 in Alameda County, she eventually specialized in child sex crimes, you know, an important

Speaker 3 job.

Speaker 3 And according to research that was done by some of her opposition when she ran for district attorney in 2003, she tried something like eight cases that they can prove there during her eight years or so as a prosecutor in Alameda County.

Speaker 2 So I lack perspective on this. Is that a lot? A little?

Speaker 3 It's very little. Very little.
For somebody who's claimed today in all of her public appearances to

Speaker 3 have been a lifelong law enforcement officer and prosecutor.

Speaker 3 And when she ran for district attorney, claimed to have tried hundreds of cases, she actually, according to what I've been able to dig up and what her opposition dug up on her in 2003, which she never refuted.

Speaker 3 Two cases in San Francisco during the two years that she worked at the DA's office before quitting and then planning her run against her boss, eight in the Alameda County District Attorney's Office.

Speaker 3 So she basically held those two jobs as a prosecutor.

Speaker 3 Now, Terrence Hallenan, let's setting the stage of my meeting her in San Francisco.

Speaker 3 San Francisco had a very progressive prosecutor. I think he was elected in 2006, sorry, 1996 1996 or so, named Terrence Hallenan.

Speaker 2 Famous person,

Speaker 3 famous guy. He was one of some brothers.

Speaker 3 My departed husband served on the board of the

Speaker 3 Liberal Pacifica radio station with one of the other Hallenan brothers. So they were kind of regulars in the left-wing activist circles in San Francisco.

Speaker 3 And Hallenan promised to be a progressive prosecutor. And he came on board and was a progressive prosecutor, would serve soup at the soup kitchens and things like that,

Speaker 3 kind of old school liberal.

Speaker 3 And that said, he was tough on murders and tough on the serious crimes, but it was the lower level drug dealers and so forth, that quality of life crimes that he was a little bit softer on.

Speaker 3 But he recruited Kamala Harris, or hired her anyway,

Speaker 3 and

Speaker 3 hired her out of the Alameda County District Attorney's Office. And during that campaign in 2003, he actually said that he did it as a favor to the mayor of San Francisco, Willie Brown.

Speaker 3 But there's a mixed record on that. But he gave her her chance to move from the job she was in, which was sort of, you know, Alameda County is not San Francisco.

Speaker 3 You know, San Francisco's the big leagues where all the glamorous stuff happens in the Bay Area and where we had two United States senators from there.

Speaker 3 A lot of the top brass in California that's now infecting the United States came from

Speaker 3 San Francisco County. So she was a step up to go to be a prosecutor in the big city there in San Francisco.
So she got her opportunity to move over there.

Speaker 3 And she was the head of the

Speaker 3 criminal organization's five-person unit after being there for a bit of time.

Speaker 3 And so, you know, it was five people she was in charge of, but she was passed over for chief of staff, which is the number two position in the district attorney's office on two two occasions.

Speaker 3 And, you know, as soon as she got there, she began making her mark and setting her eyes on her political career. Okay.

Speaker 3 So starting around age 29, again, when she moved to San Francisco, she started dating the mayor of San Francisco, Willie Brown.

Speaker 3 While he was mayor? While he was mayor, and he had been the speaker of the assembly. He was

Speaker 3 maybe the most powerful machine politician in Democrat politics. Willie Brown and John Burton Burton ran San Francisco.
They had a political machine.

Speaker 3 And to win election in that town, their stamp of approval was necessary. And they really had a, I mean, not a complete control, but they were the most formidable block to get ahead in San Francisco.

Speaker 3 So they kind of approved who got to be on the board of supervisors, who, you know, really ran for all these different positions.

Speaker 3 handed out patronage jobs in the city. And so

Speaker 3 the fastest way to ascend in politics there is to be tied to the coattails of Willie Brown. And so, you know, she did that.
And I don't know.

Speaker 2 More tied more than tied to the coattails. I mean, she was sleeping with him.

Speaker 3 She dated him. That's how he describes it.

Speaker 3 He is still married at the time. And so he's 90 today, but he was married throughout this time that he was together with her for two years.
Okay. And so they were a society couple.

Speaker 3 You know, they went to all the

Speaker 3 operas, ballets, black tie events very openly. And, you know, I've met Willie Brown several times.

Speaker 3 He just, you know, it's not disputed that he gave her her start in politics and almost certainly encouraged her, hey, maybe you should register to vote. I mean, that might be a good start.

Speaker 3 Certainly, how to move up in the ranks. And so one of the ways you do that is you get started with some lower-level elective office.
But even before that,

Speaker 3 A lot of our politicians in Congress and in the Senate and, you know, former presidents have been lawyers. It's a great stepping stone to a political career.
So

Speaker 3 getting a good record in the DA's office would have been a way to do that. So she hustled her way into the

Speaker 3 district attorney's office and immediately began setting her sights on her power base. So she developed relationships in the African-American community.

Speaker 3 became friendly with Amos Brown, a notorious pastor and activist in the Bay View Hunters Point district, where is a large African-American population there.

Speaker 3 And, you know, it's one of the rougher parts of town where the projects are. A lot of the drug and gang violence was centered in that area.
And so she tried to make that her patch. And her theme was,

Speaker 3 you know, supposedly hard on crime, but

Speaker 3 not in an unfair, disproportionate way on the African-American community.

Speaker 3 So as you know, during that time, the 1990s, there was a lot of discussion in our country about harsh drug laws and disproportionate impact on African Americans.

Speaker 3 And so she kind of focused her efforts on that. And that was her assignment was criminal organizations, basically gangs.
Okay. So she was a gang

Speaker 3 and drug prosecutor, not a murder prosecutor, not a violent crime prosecutor. She never was that in her jobs before she became the district attorney.
So

Speaker 3 she wanted those jobs,

Speaker 3 according to reporting at the time.

Speaker 3 She wanted to be moved up to the more serious responsibilities of violent crime and murder prosecutor, but she never was given that opportunity by Terrence Hallenan, who I think, reading between the lines, began to suspect that she was gunning for his job pretty early on.

Speaker 3 So after she was passed over a couple of times for the top lieutenant position in the district attorney's office, She quit.

Speaker 3 She quit and she went immediately sideways to the city attorney's office in San Francisco, which is also a prominent breeding ground for some excellent judges

Speaker 3 I've been in front of have been city attorneys. Dennis Herrera was the city attorney at the time and he held that position for a very long time.

Speaker 3 So she moved sideways after less than two years at the district attorney's office to the city attorney's office,

Speaker 3 where she put together a portfolio involving

Speaker 3 child welfare and

Speaker 3 sort of

Speaker 3 juvenile offenders,

Speaker 3 that sort of a thing. Again, I will call it a pretty fluffy portfolio, but something that's designed to give her something to talk about if she runs for office.

Speaker 3 And so for two or three years, she spent her time there at the city attorney's office. Again, by the way, all on the public employment.
She's never had a job in the private sector. Ever.
Ever.

Speaker 2 And so. Pamela Harris has been living on taxpayer money her entire

Speaker 3 her entire career. That's correct.
She's never had a private sector job.

Speaker 3 Now, let me pause for a second. While she was doing some of these jobs, she actually was doing multiple jobs on paper.
Because Willie Brown,

Speaker 3 one of the

Speaker 3 positions that you get access to when you're the speaker, and then you pretty much continue to have a lot of access to over the years is the ability to appoint people to patronage jobs.

Speaker 3 And so before he

Speaker 3 kind of left the speaker's office, he was able to appoint her to

Speaker 3 one of two commissions. So she was on a taxpayer-funded commission called the Unemployment Appeals Board.
And so you hear appeals of denials of unemployment benefits.

Speaker 3 That's a cushy part-time job, which pays almost $100,000 salary. You show up a couple of days a month.
And then he also got her appointed to a second

Speaker 3 sort of

Speaker 3 part-time job, very part-time, a couple of days a month again, called something called like the Medical Assistance Commission, which was dealing with medi-cal contracts and appeals over that.

Speaker 3 And so, over the years that she was taking a salary as first an Alameda County prosecutor and then a San Francisco County prosecutor, she earned an additional over $400,000 over a five-year period from these

Speaker 3 low-show/slash no-show jobs.

Speaker 3 He also got her a BMW as a gift. And so

Speaker 2 Willie Brown gave Kamal Harris a BMW.

Speaker 3 He gave her a BMW and he got her these extra hundreds of thousands of dollars of jobs. And to give you some perspective, the salary of a prosecutor around that time was about $100,000.

Speaker 3 So she basically got double or triple what her colleagues were getting.

Speaker 3 So imagine the morale in the office when your person sitting next to you is also dating the mayor and also is making hundreds of thousands of dollars more than you because

Speaker 3 and getting a free BMW. So she was marked out as privileged in her 20s and 30s very early on.

Speaker 3 And that allowed her to leap over the career hurdles that those of us who work for a living in the private sector have to actually earn. Right.
And I think it's, and, you know, she's.

Speaker 3 She's had to face these criticisms over time and she's become very glib and

Speaker 3 good at deflecting yes the criticism but it's it's I don't think it's disputable that the extra income and more importantly the patronage that she enjoyed in her 20s and early 30s made her the person who's

Speaker 3 you know the vice president of the United States today and seeking the top job not merit but influence peddling and using her female wiles.

Speaker 2 And just all the sleaze and corruption that inevitably arises in a one-party state like California.

Speaker 3 You know, multiplied by 100 when you're dating the most powerful person there. And even after she broke up with him, as the story goes, because she realized that he was never going to make her a wife,

Speaker 3 she continued that strong relationship. And to this day, Willie Brown has endorsed her and is out there helping her raise money.

Speaker 3 And so she had broken up with him by the time she ran for district attorney, but he was instrumental in helping her raise hundreds of thousands of dollars and eventually winning

Speaker 3 in that business.

Speaker 2 Willie Brown has a reputation for the last 60 years for corruption.

Speaker 2 I'm not alleging a specific crime. He was a jailhouse lawyer for years representing radicals of various kinds.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 he has a reputation for corruption. Is that fair to say?

Speaker 3 Oh, absolutely. And

Speaker 3 even specifically in this district attorney race. So I'll break that down for you.
So

Speaker 3 Terrence Hallenan was a mixed back. He was the district attorney for, you know, the one who Kamala Harris replaced.
And so,

Speaker 3 but

Speaker 3 he was tough on

Speaker 3 corruption. Okay.
So there was some corruption in the police department in San Francisco.

Speaker 3 The SFPD had a scandal called Fajita Gate, where some cops got into a beef with some street vendors over some fajitas. It was kind of a silly

Speaker 3 beginning of the story, but the end of that story is that Terrence Hallenan brought charges against the police chief, his deputy, and some other cops involved in this scandal. Okay, well,

Speaker 3 Willie Brown didn't like this. You know, he had put all these people basically, basically everybody in the top jobs in San Francisco owed it in some way to Willie Brown.

Speaker 3 And so Willie Brown was able to get stuff done in the city as a lobbyist and as a fixer, and particularly for the real estate industry by controlling a lot of the elected officials and the law enforcement in San Francisco.

Speaker 3 There were corruption investigations that Terrence Hallinan was looking at. regarding some of this power structure in San Francisco.

Speaker 3 And so by replacing Terrence Hallinan, Willie Brown, through his agent of Kamala Harris, was able to put an end to some of these investigations. These investigations were quietly dropped.

Speaker 3 The Fajitagate thing quietly went away. The case collapsed.
And the police who were accused of wrongdoing were never held accountable.

Speaker 3 But because of that investigation and indictments that were brought by Terrence Hallenan, you know, that began some friction. That continued some friction.

Speaker 3 The police were also frustrated at halon and failure to take drug dealers off the streets so willie brown through

Speaker 3 that dint of getting his former mistress the da job by helping her raise money getting her key endorsements from the socialites the getty family and all the top families in san francisco who backed her uh the founder of uh northface and others getty family would be the the patrons of gavin newsom now the governor gavin newsom's patrons and the patrons, I mean, I think they're supporters of Kamala Harris and others.

Speaker 3 They've supported every major Democrat elite in California. And so, you know,

Speaker 3 their Pacific Heights

Speaker 3 establishment, no bless, oblige.

Speaker 2 Pacific Heights being one of the richest neighborhoods in San Francisco.

Speaker 3 Absolutely.

Speaker 3 And so fundraisers, glittering events, black tie events, patrons of the arts, you know, these are the folks, these are the circles that Kamala Harris moved in through Willie Brown's assistance. And so

Speaker 3 Willie Brown was able to put an end to

Speaker 3 pesky investigations into corruption in San Francisco and misconduct by the police department by getting Kamala Harris installed over there.

Speaker 3 So everything became smooth again when she became the district attorney and stayed that way under control for many years while she was the district attorney until she ran for attorney general.

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Speaker 2 During this period, how did she pronounce her first name? And I ask because she's on video pronouncing it Kamala and Kamala.

Speaker 2 Two different ways.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 I remember her putting the emphasis on the second syllable. So it was like Kamala.
Kamala. Kamala was how she pronounced it.

Speaker 2 Not Kamala.

Speaker 3 Not Kamala. Kamala is actually how Indian Indians pronounce it.
The name derives from the word for lotus in Sanskrit, which is komal.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 really? Yeah. And so, you know, that that is how you're supposed to pronounce it.

Speaker 2 Is that a conventional name?

Speaker 3 It's a conventional name, absolutely. And it's a, it's a, it's a Brahmin.
She's a, she's from a Brahmin family. Her mother is Brahmin.
And so, you know, high caste background.

Speaker 2 I thought she was oppressed.

Speaker 3 Well,

Speaker 3 she's a shapeshifter, like I said.

Speaker 3 So although, you know, I saw an explanation in one of these liberal publications trying to explain how throughout the most of her career, she's passed as African-American and not mixed race, because of course, not until Tiger Woods became prominent did people parse out their differences and their racial background.

Speaker 3 So, you know, it was, it was suggested that she had to pick one or the other early in her career, and she largely identified as African-American.

Speaker 3 And so she really focused on the African-American community in San Francisco. She identified as African American community.

Speaker 2 Did she live in a black neighborhood? Did she live in Hunters Point?

Speaker 3 She did not live in Hunters Point. Yeah, no, she she lived in a nice condo in the south of Market in the ballpark area.
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 But she was, quote, focused on the African American community.

Speaker 3 She was focused on the African-American community. Now, I've read just about everything that's been written about her.

Speaker 3 And back in that time period, Willie Brown actually got one of his political clients and patrons to rent her her campaign headquarters in Bayview Hunters Point, not where she lived and not where the courthouse is, but she had her campaign headquarters in that African-American neighborhood at well below market rent from a connection of Willie Brown.

Speaker 3 It's unbelievable.

Speaker 3 And it's pretty blatant.

Speaker 2 Rewind just for one moment. She, it's without,

Speaker 2 it's not controversial to say, because it's factual, it's provable, she has pronounced her own first name at least two different ways.

Speaker 3 I think three or four different ways.

Speaker 2 Three or four different ways. So if we can just like consider for a moment how weird that is.
You have a non-Anglo first name. Yeah.
Hermit.

Speaker 3 That's right.

Speaker 3 Indian name, I assume. It's been pronounced consistently since childhood.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 By you, because it's your name. That's my name.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And I haven't pretended to be different things over the years.

Speaker 2 But how strange. Have you ever met anyone who's pronounced his or her own first name?

Speaker 3 different ways over no i i really haven't and it was striking to me um

Speaker 3 when she was running for district attorneys when I first met her. And I had a, you know, I was new to San Francisco.
I just moved to San Francisco in 2003.

Speaker 3 I'd been, I came to California in 2000 and I, you know, during the dot-com boom and I went down to Silicon Valley, I practiced law there. And then I moved to San Francisco in 2003.
I was new to town.

Speaker 3 So I had a friend from the South Asian Bar Association who'd practiced with her in the DA's office in Alameda County, who was, you know, helping her with her DA run. So I went to this fundraiser.

Speaker 3 I was new to town. And, you know, Kamala Harris walks into the fundraiser.
It was all Indian Americans at this particular fundraiser. And so she was,

Speaker 3 you know, she was all business, no nonsense, strides into the room wearing a designer outfit well beyond her means as a district attorney, assistant district attorney, or at that time city attorney employee, like four inch heels, you know, strides confidently into the room and begins telling us why she's going to be the better candidate than Terrence Hallenan, who was running for re-election.

Speaker 3 And I recall from that meeting, you know, she was really focused on process. She didn't really have a policy difference with Terrence Hallenan.

Speaker 3 She has also always painted herself as a progressive, but tough on crime, but progressive prosecutor. Okay, so

Speaker 3 She talked a lot about how the computers in the district attorney's office were outdated and, you know, we really needed to professionalize the office. I mean, who could argue with that, right?

Speaker 3 I mean, of course, the district attorney's office in a major American city should have up-to-date computers. I mean, I had them in my law firm practice.
And so that sounded good.

Speaker 3 And, you know, she also criticized Helen Ann for being soft on crime, which in retrospect is not fair because she had a much worse record than him in prosecuting violent crime. But I'll get to that.

Speaker 3 But, you know, she really portrayed herself as just being the younger, more competent, liberal.

Speaker 3 but tough on crime prosecutor. And so she was planning to prosecute marijuana and drug offenses.

Speaker 3 She was planning planning to prosecute, you know, these quality of life crimes that Helen Ann allegedly wasn't prosecuting. And so that was her selling point in this, in this fundraiser.

Speaker 3 But when I saw her in other settings, you know, she didn't identify with the Indian American community at all.

Speaker 3 And so I saw her in South Asian Bar Association events after she became the district attorney and otherwise.

Speaker 3 And so when she came into an event where there were Indian Americans there, like a South Asian lawyer's event, she was all, you know, namaste and, and, you know, all of that.

Speaker 3 But you never saw that outside that setting, right?

Speaker 2 She didn't do that in Hunter's Point. She didn't do that in Hunter Point.
She didn't do any Namaste in the United States.

Speaker 3 There's no Namaste

Speaker 3 in Hunters Point.

Speaker 2 That would have been hilarious.

Speaker 3 No, she, so that's fake.

Speaker 3 And I, I immediately saw that when I saw in more than one setting that this woman is just pandering to whoever is in front of her, which is, of course, you and I have been around a lot of politicians over the years.

Speaker 3 That's a common theme in politics, right? But the extent to which she was willing to just adopt and abandon persona was the same. Well, and it's the self-righteousness, too.

Speaker 2 I mean, you know, of course, every politician panders. I think people pander to each other.

Speaker 2 It's all very common and very human. But when caught,

Speaker 2 you know, you don't scream at the other person and call that person a racist for noticing, which is exactly her response. I mean, Trump made that point.
It was a totally fair point.

Speaker 2 I thought she was Indian. Now she's black.
Well, sounds like he had reason to say that.

Speaker 3 All of a sudden, shut up, racist. Absolutely.
Well, let me pick up on that for a second.

Speaker 3 So it's been really striking in this campaign for president and even when she ran for president in 2019 and 2020, how she's very self-righteous about being in law enforcement and, you know, a top cop and a border cop and just like this law enforcement icon.

Speaker 3 But she actually began her career in politics by breaking the law on multiple occasions. And so this dates back even to before she ran for the district attorney position.

Speaker 3 In 2000,

Speaker 3 Willie Brown asked her to take a break from her job at the city attorney's office, take a little leave of absence and

Speaker 3 do some work for Amos Brown, this notorious pastor who was running for re-election for the Board of Supervisors. And Amos Brown is representing that

Speaker 3 African-American community, and he was one of Willie Brown's people, right?

Speaker 3 And so she had no background in politics or anything, but you know, he thought, well, this is a good way for you to learn the ropes of how a campaign is run. And it is a good way.

Speaker 3 Volunteering for a campaign is a good way to do that. She wasn't a volunteer, though.
That's the key point.

Speaker 3 She was paid as a political consultant by Amos Brown's campaign, but she never registered under city law, which requires all political consultants who are paid by a campaign more than $1,000 to register.

Speaker 3 And so

Speaker 3 she was paid, I think, almost $10,000 during this time she worked there. She never registered.
She was called out on it and

Speaker 3 she skated. She explained she didn't know the rules and, you know, she hadn't really intended anything.
And so I think a fine or some penalty was paid at that point.

Speaker 3 And that was the beginning of simply giving the middle finger to the law. by Kamala Harris.
She created,

Speaker 3 she got herself embroiled in a much bigger scandal when she ran for district attorney. So in San Francisco, like many of our liberal cities in California,

Speaker 3 there's campaign finance, matching funds that are available, but there's also a benefit that you get if you agree to voluntarily cap your raising and spending.

Speaker 3 At the time, for mayor, I think it was a little bit higher, but for district attorney and mayor, it might have been the same. It was $211,000.

Speaker 3 So if you agreed to cap your raising and spending at $211,000 in 2003, you got a statement published in the voter guide that's mailed to all the almost half a million voters in San Francisco, registered voters, saying that you had voluntarily agreed to confine yourself to that spending cap.

Speaker 3 So it's like a level playing field.

Speaker 3 And it's a little bit of a gold star that you're agreeing not to engage in corruption, wasteful spending, cronyism by raising money from all kinds of unknown sources. So she agreed to that.

Speaker 3 She filed a piece of paper. She signed it under penalty of perjury saying, I, Kamala Harris, agree to this voluntary spending limit.

Speaker 3 Most of the other candidates in the race and candidates for mayor during that race, they also agreed to that spending limit.

Speaker 3 Okay, so most of the candidates running for office in California, in San Francisco rather, agreed to that spending limit.

Speaker 3 Well, it turns out that Kamala Harris, who by the way, started out in this campaign third. behind her boss, Terrence Hallenan, who was in the lead, and then

Speaker 3 a guy named Vic Fazio, who was a former prosecutor, then defense attorney, who was

Speaker 3 going to be the hard on crime guy. He was eventually endorsed by the Republicans in San Francisco.
So she was third. She was the underdog.
And so she quickly, she was getting no traction at first.

Speaker 3 So she realized she was going to have to really supercharge her spending. Willie Brown helped her with this.
Willie Brown also helped raise money for independent expenditures to support her as well.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 it's a funny story, but you know, one of her, one of her campaign themes was that she was going to be tough on drugs, tough on marijuana.

Speaker 3 And back in 2003, marijuana wasn't, the recreational use of marijuana was not legal in California. And so she was going to be tough on pot.

Speaker 3 So apparently some pot

Speaker 3 activists who didn't like this, you know, they were.

Speaker 3 poring over the campaign finance records and it's a pot activist to realize that Kamala Harris had raised over $300,000 and had spent over $300,000.

Speaker 3 So this person went and let the other campaigns know. They filed an ethics complaint against her.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 at the end of the election, she had spent over $600,000. So triple the amount that she was allowed.
But thanks to hiring a good lawyer and making the excuse that, oh, the form changed.

Speaker 3 I didn't really understand the meaning of this. So please lift the cap.
She got... the San Francisco Ethics Commission.

Speaker 3 And by the way, many of those people on the Ethics Commission owed their positions to Willie Brown. She got them to look the other way on this gross violation.
It's a crime, by the way.

Speaker 3 It could have been a, she could have been prosecuted for a misdemeanor

Speaker 3 had she been properly held accountable for this significant campaign finance violation, and anybody else would have. But the Ethics Commission simply lifted the cap, which is not in the statute.

Speaker 3 So instead of disqualifying her, which would have been the normal punishment, and prosecuting her, she simply got away with it.

Speaker 3 So, in her first race for elected office, she ignored the campaign finance limits. She used corrupt patronage from her former lover to raise the money necessary to do the glossy ads.

Speaker 3 I've got several examples here. She did more mailers than all of the other candidates.

Speaker 3 She had independent expenditures on her behalf, and she simply was able to outspend and blow through these limits. You got an ad from her the rest in 2000.

Speaker 3 I have a lot of this material here from 2003, 2003. And so this is all the people who endorsed her.
And this is all the main political machine there in San Francisco.

Speaker 3 Now, one of those guys is in jail for, he's a former state senator, Leland Yee. He was later indicted for the Reverend Cecil Williams.
Reverend Cecil Williams.

Speaker 2 And he was involved with Jim Jones, but maybe I'm misremembering.

Speaker 3 There's a lot of blast blast from the past over there.

Speaker 3 Because she raised so much money, she was able to send multiple of these big, glossy mailers.

Speaker 2 She's today's voice for justice.

Speaker 3 Yeah, today's voice for justice, Kamala Harris for District Attorney, Aaron Peskin. Fiona Ma, some of the shadiest politicians in California are here on her endorsement list.
Of course, Willie Brown.

Speaker 3 She was, you know, she checked all the boxes to get the gay community on board, the Asian community on board. You know, she really put the coalition together thanks to the mentorship she enjoyed.

Speaker 3 Here is Assemblyman Mark Leno. No one is better prepared to lead our district attorney's office in this new era than Kamala Harris.

Speaker 3 Well, there actually, almost every prosecutor in that office was better prepared. Terrence Hallinan was better prepared.
Vic Fazia was better prepared. So

Speaker 3 by simply outspending and violating the campaign finance cap, she was able to to win this election.

Speaker 3 She got it into the runoff and then she was able to win in the runoff against her boss. So it was a pretty incredible upset.

Speaker 3 This is another one of her glossy

Speaker 3 glossy mayors, glossy mailers. So

Speaker 3 she's a veteran prosecutor with 13 years of courtroom experience and a 90% conviction rate. She actually had only been a prosecutor for 10 years, and her conviction rate,

Speaker 3 I mean, you can manipulate any statistic you want by simply changing the numerator and the denominator.

Speaker 3 And so,

Speaker 3 you know, it's pretty incredible that the birth of this meteoric career comes out of multiple campaign finance violations.

Speaker 2 So she won.

Speaker 3 She won that race. I mean, one of the mailers from the other side

Speaker 3 is a mailer from

Speaker 3 the tenants' union, which was supporting Kamala Harris. Sorry, sorry, supporting Terrence Hallinan.

Speaker 3 And they pointed out that she had committed another violation, and that is soliciting money from landlords

Speaker 3 who she was supposed to be regulating in her job at the city attorney's office.

Speaker 3 So one of her jobs in the city attorney's office involved, you know, sort of the welfare of people who were on public assistance.

Speaker 3 And that included people in the SRO, single residence housing and Section 8 housing.

Speaker 3 I mean, it's, it's a lot of our residents are on public assistance and live in this kind of housing.

Speaker 3 And so she happily took tens of thousands of dollars from slum lords, who she was supposed to be regulating in this campaign. And the tenants' union,

Speaker 3 there's a mailer in here I have somewhere that talks about her taking money from the Roach Motels. And, you know, they were able to put that one mailer out, but it ended up not

Speaker 3 convincing.

Speaker 2 San Francisco has more roach motels than any city.

Speaker 3 I think per square foot, it's probably... Number one.

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Speaker 3 So, Tucker, I mentioned to you that she blew through those campaign finance limits. Yeah.
And

Speaker 3 she was

Speaker 3 given a pass if she issued corrective

Speaker 3 apology and disclosure to the public. So, how she did that was she had

Speaker 3 a door hanger. And those of us who are involved in politics, you know, you go walk doors, you knock on the doors, and you hang a door hanger with your materials.

Speaker 3 So, she replaced her door hanger with this Kamala Harris folded door hanger. And then in the tiniest possible print.

Speaker 2 Would you like my glasses?

Speaker 3 I'll put mine on. Let me show you.

Speaker 3 I mean,

Speaker 3 due to an error by the Kamala Harris campaign, the voter information pamphlet indicates that the campaign has agreed to voluntary limit campaign spending. This is incorrect.

Speaker 3 We take responsibility for this error. Now, this is printed on the top of this hanger.
So you hang it on the door.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 the normal wage slave coming home from their actual job where they worked, you know, a full day, unlike Kamala Harris, would go and lend people to the business.

Speaker 2 People who are not dating Willie Brown, you mean?

Speaker 3 Those of us taxpayers who have private sector jobs, you come home and the first thing you do with this annoying piece of crap is tear it off, right?

Speaker 3 So this is a part that would fall to the ground when you tear it off and maybe clutch your mail and take it. And nobody read this, like three-point disclosure on this thing and so because her

Speaker 3 patronage boyfriend had fixed it for her she got away with this nobody else would be able to get away with this today i can guarantee you um and so

Speaker 3 no shame and that's how she got her start in politics by by breaking the rules and so

Speaker 3 um

Speaker 3 i mentioned to you these no-show jobs as well She had the lowest attendance record of any of the attendees of these two commissions either.

Speaker 3 So on top of having a job where she got paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to do very little, she didn't even show up and do that. But there's one more fact about this.

Speaker 3 You know, in the city attorney's office, they had to keep timesheets. Now, you know, a lot of lawyers.

Speaker 3 You've gotten bills from lawyers.

Speaker 3 Yes, I have.

Speaker 3 We bill by the hour. We're supposed to record our time in tenths of an hour.
Okay.

Speaker 3 So in the city attorney's office, you recorded your time that way. And so someone in one of these various campaigns she's been in over the years did a public records act request for these hours.

Speaker 3 And her predecessor in her job at the city attorney's office was

Speaker 3 a now,

Speaker 3 I think, retired or semi-retired judge, Catherine Feinstein, the daughter of Dianne Feinstein, the former United States Senator. So Feinstein had the job and then Kamala Harris had the job.

Speaker 3 So if you compare their hours, you see that Kamala Harris, I think, worked one day over eight hours in all the three years that she worked there.

Speaker 3 Dianne Feinstein's daughter regularly worked long, normal lawyer options.

Speaker 2 She worked one day over eight hours in how long? Three years.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 3 She's just lazy. Yeah.
And there were a number of days where she had block eight hours, phone calls, research, something, eight hours. So she didn't work full days in that job.

Speaker 3 That's what any supervisor, I'm a supervisor about 25 lawyers.

Speaker 3 If I saw timesheets like that, I would call that person and I put them on probation because they clearly aren't working a full day's worth of work. They're block billing.
They're putting down time.

Speaker 3 They're doing a lot of admin time, days and days of admin time, meaning I didn't work that day. I read the newspaper.
I did continuing legal education. I did some background research.

Speaker 3 She did not work those full days.

Speaker 3 That's what any supervising lawyer being honest would tell you.

Speaker 3 That's pretty striking because as it is, you're

Speaker 3 only expected to work sort of nine to five, unlike those of us who are, you know, working in the private sector, working much harder to make a living and keep our jobs.

Speaker 3 There's no such accountability in

Speaker 3 the jobs that she's held. And so when she ran for DA, she claimed, I've tried hundreds and hundreds of serious felony cases.

Speaker 3 And she got busted by the tenants' union saying, actually, you've tried 10 cases. And

Speaker 3 then she had to sort of, over the years, own that maybe she was affiliated with hundreds of cases. She didn't actually try them.
And look, as you get more senior as a lawyer, you don't try every case.

Speaker 3 I get it. But in those early years of your career, if you're billing yourself as a top cop and a top prosecutor,

Speaker 3 normally people do, but that is not Kamala Harris.

Speaker 2 You have an excellent memory, well, in general. But for this period, 20 years ago,

Speaker 2 and you were around Kamala Harris, living in that world, met her, all that. When you see Kamala Harris now, does she seem like the same person to you?

Speaker 3 So this is interesting, Tucker.

Speaker 3 I got the impression from the first time I met Kamala Harris when she strode into my friend's apartment in that small fundraiser of an extremely confident, competent, articulate person.

Speaker 3 Now, I don't think she's a great lawyer, and I think she's hardly had much courtroom experience, but she exuded competence and confidence.

Speaker 3 And the Kamala Harris you saw as vice president of the United States seems to be a completely different person, inarticulate, lacking confidence,

Speaker 3 almost like dazed or medicated in some way. And I don't know that, of course.

Speaker 3 I'm just telling you that the impression of somebody extremely competent and confident and able to talk about their record, their recent record, even falsely, with a degree of confidence and bravado.

Speaker 3 There's a couple of dynamics there. First of all, I think the record that she's been running on is way in the past.

Speaker 3 And so it's become part of her own personal hagiography that she's, you know, this brilliant, accomplished, stunning, you know, top cop who criminals quake in their boots to see her.

Speaker 3 That's not true, but she's adopted it, but it's also way in the past. But secondly, it feels like

Speaker 3 she's not able to articulate herself. There seems to be a veil of inability to string together complete and coherent sentences.

Speaker 2 She seems afraid to me. And you saw it in the opening moments of her debate with Trump, where I thought she did well as the debate continued.

Speaker 2 But in the opening moments, it's worth looking at the tape again.

Speaker 2 You see her eyes. This woman's terrified.

Speaker 3 Maybe it's imposter syndrome. I don't know what it is.

Speaker 3 Can you explain them?

Speaker 3 Well, imposter syndrome is somebody who is successful, has reached certain levels of at least outward appearances of success, but yet is plagued by self-doubt that maybe I don't belong here.

Speaker 3 What am I doing here?

Speaker 2 I feel like I'm an imposter.

Speaker 3 How did I find myself here? Like a bad dream. Yes.

Speaker 3 Those dreams we all have before the exam that, you know, you go in and you haven't studied and it's the

Speaker 3 exam. You're in your pajamas.
Nightmare.

Speaker 3 You're in your pajamas or whatever. And so, but it isn't one time.
It can happen to any of us.

Speaker 3 I think we all freeze sometimes in tense situations, but we've all seen her on the national and international stage doing increasingly incoherent word salad statements.

Speaker 3 We've just seen the incident with 60 Minutes substituting a completely incoherent answer that she gave to a question with something else that she did in another part of the interview, or maybe even taped afterwards.

Speaker 3 Who knows? I have no idea how 60 Minutes came up with that.

Speaker 2 60 Minutes got caught lying about the interview.

Speaker 3 60 Minutes has been caught blatantly fixing her incoherence for her. And, you know, that has been the case with the mainstream media.

Speaker 3 And I think this is a theme throughout her career dating back to that 2000, 2003, as she gotten her leg up in life

Speaker 3 by

Speaker 3 shortcuts, not by meritocracy. And then she finds herself in a position that is beyond her capabilities.
And then she has to lie and exaggerate to maintain that position and get to the next level.

Speaker 3 But with the assistance of the Democratic machine in California, to be fair to her, she's not the only person. I mean, Gavin Newsom is another example of somebody who has faked his way to the top.

Speaker 3 Javier Becerra, who's in the cabinet today, is a guy who had basically one year of legal experience before he became the attorney general of California.

Speaker 3 And so California's machine has produced a number of underqualified and overconfident duds, but this person is seeking the top job of the United States with an exaggerated record, with a tattered history of sordid

Speaker 3 ways that she got to where she is, of numerous legal violations that could have resulted in criminal prosecution, just the campaign finance violations alone.

Speaker 3 And so, you know, I can understand why somebody might have an imposter syndrome and that's their history.

Speaker 2 You know, the sad thing is California used to to be famous for producing things from the world's best ag to aerospace to great movies.

Speaker 2 And now it's like failed light rail projects in Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom.

Speaker 3 And gaslighting, gaslighting the voters on so many levels. So, I mean, Kamala Harris promised to San Francisco voters to get elected that she was going to be tough on crime.

Speaker 3 The murder rate skyrocketed during her years as a district attorney. And why did that happen? Well, gangs in the whole Bay Area, they do talk to each other.

Speaker 3 I was talking to a prosecutor in her office a couple of days ago in preparation for our interview. And

Speaker 3 this prosecutor said, Harmie, these criminals, you may think, oh, they're like, you know, criminals. They're on the margins of society.
They're subhuman. No, they're very smart.

Speaker 3 They communicate with each other. They know that if you are doing

Speaker 3 certain crimes in San Francisco, you're going to get a pass. If you're doing drunk driving in San Francisco, you were going to get a pass during Kamala Harris's tenure.

Speaker 3 If you did it in Alameda County, San Mateo County, Marin County, you would get prosecuted. So guess what?

Speaker 3 The criminals came to San Francisco to do their drug dealing, to do their break-ins, their hot prowl burglaries, their low-level offenses.

Speaker 3 Kamala Harris was notorious for being hard on gun possession by legal taxpayers, but extremely lenient to the point of multiple

Speaker 3 criminals who possess guns committing murders after she let them off with a slap on the wrist or no punishment at all. So there was a double standard there in her prosecution.

Speaker 2 And that's a theme throughout the state where,

Speaker 2 you know, they've legalized stealing.

Speaker 2 You can steal from stores. It's nothing, no one can do anything about it.
But any store owner who tries to defend himself against violence or homeowner who tries the same will be prosecuted.

Speaker 2 That's right. Why, what is that impulse, that anarcho-tyranny? Where does that come from?

Speaker 3 Well, there's two aspects of it. First of all, it's treating the successful people in society as criminals and putting them in a box.
I mean, I'm a legal gun owner

Speaker 3 and

Speaker 3 the scrutiny you have to jump through to get a gun legally in California is incredible.

Speaker 3 But if you

Speaker 3 are an illegal alien, you get a free pass. We're a sanctuary.
We were a sanctuary city before we were a sanctuary state.

Speaker 3 So Kamala Harris has long been in the camp of protecting those folks by simply looking the other way.

Speaker 2 Breaking federal law, in other words.

Speaker 3 Breaking federal law.

Speaker 2 And how is that then not insurrection, by the way?

Speaker 3 I mean, I think it's, look, you know, the criminals have guns and they get away with it. But how is it not?

Speaker 2 I mean, she's always running around calling all the J6, all the diabetic grandmothers languishing in prison insurrectionists.

Speaker 2 But how is it not insurrection against the United States of America to allow foreigners

Speaker 2 in your state against federal law?

Speaker 3 Well, I completely agree. I mean, it's even worse than that.
There was an interesting situation where a criminal committed a crime in San Francisco while she was the district attorney.

Speaker 3 And that criminal was free to commit that crime because she had pushed for that criminal to be part of a program of rehabilitation.

Speaker 3 So there was a rehabilitation program where if you did some job training as someone arrested for a serious crime, you could avoid prison time. Well.

Speaker 3 An illegal alien is not entitled to hold a job.

Speaker 3 So San Francisco taxpayers, California taxpayers under Kamala Harris's leadership were paying for jobs training for illegal alien criminals to get out of their criminal sentences.

Speaker 3 And then they weren't even eligible to go on to hold those jobs.

Speaker 3 So one of those people committed a serious violent crime, shattering the skull of a taxpayer in San Francisco, and he was able to do that because

Speaker 3 Kamala Harris signed him up for jobs training when he isn't illegally allowed under United States.

Speaker 2 Why would you want that? I I mean, you clearly are trying to overthrow the society.

Speaker 3 You know, you're pandering to a particular element of society. I think eventually Democrats have wanted to legalize all of the illegal aliens in the country.
That's not a secret now.

Speaker 3 They tried to lie about it in the past, but today that's a campaign promise of hers that she wants to legalize all of these illegal aliens in the country and get their votes.

Speaker 3 So it's a long-term vote recruitment program by these folks. But look, you can't forget the details.

Speaker 2 So she's the insurrectionist.

Speaker 3 I mean, she's the insurrectionist.

Speaker 2 She's going to overthrow the United States government and system and destroy democracy and

Speaker 2 invalidate our founding documents, our core freedoms. I mean, that's all, those are all species of insurrection, it would seem to me.
She sounds like a criminal.

Speaker 3 Well, she's broken a lot of laws over the years, just in the white-collar laws, but she's enabled hundreds, if not thousands, of criminals to go on to commit violent crimes and even, even fatalities.

Speaker 3 I mean, there are police officers in San Francisco who lost their lives because Kamala Harris was soft on the criminals who went on to kill them as one of their dozens of offenses.

Speaker 3 There's a long trail of victims in San Francisco and now California who have suffered because of Kamala Harris's soft on crime policies. And she's lied about it and gotten away with it.

Speaker 3 And it's kind of incredible that someone who failed, who increased the murder rate by many percentage points who who prosecuted almost no violent crimes in san francisco during the many years she was a district attorney she she failed up to becoming the attorney general where she went on to violate the rights of criminal defendants on a much more massive scale um but even before that uh tucker one of the interesting incidents is in the last two years of her uh race of her tenure as district attorney she was embroiled in a major scandal involving the systematic violation of criminal defendants' rights.

Speaker 3 And in San Francisco in the drug lab, there was a drug technician who was supposed to test the drugs. And

Speaker 3 this person was sampling the drugs, taking them home and sampling them and also making numerous errors. This was an open secret in the district attorney's office.

Speaker 3 So after, you know, people mentioned it in numerous occasions, judges chastised the district attorney's office.

Speaker 3 Eventually, a top manager in in the office sent a cover-your-ass email to Kamala Harris saying, hey, by the way, I think the

Speaker 3 head of this drug lab section is actually taking drugs and regularly violating protocols and handling evidence.

Speaker 3 Kamala Harris, instead of doing her immediate duty as a district attorney to inform all defense counsel in all the cases in which this lab technician had handled the drugs for testing, she sat on it for a period of three months.

Speaker 3 And it only came out not through Kamala Harris disclosing it. And so the judge in that case, Christine Mazzullo, excoriated the district attorney's office.

Speaker 3 Now, by this time, Kamala Harris had been the district attorney for six years.

Speaker 3 In the six years she was the district attorney, she created no protocol for disclosing to defense counsel this, what's called a Brady violation, a violation which is so massive that you have to disclose to the other side that there's been a potential due process violation that could be exculpatory.

Speaker 3 So she got in trouble for that. She went on after that, two years later, to become the Attorney General of California.
So there's literally no accountability for,

Speaker 3 by some accounts, 1,400 cases, either convictions or pending cases had to be dismissed in San Francisco because of this due process violation of the rights of the accused.

Speaker 3 I personally litigated a case against Kamala Harris myself, and I saw the same pattern.

Speaker 3 So I had an important civil rights case involving a sick applicant for a prison guard job in the in the prison department in Sacramento County.

Speaker 3 Kamala Harris was the attorney general when this case went to trial, was getting prepared for trial. And I had won this case at the administrative level.

Speaker 3 So I was able to prove at an administrative hearing for state employees that the civil rights of my client had been violated because he was denied a job with the prison department because of his articles of faith.

Speaker 3 He had a beard, he had a turban, and under federal equal employment law and state law as well,

Speaker 3 the state has to accommodate that. They had to offer him the opportunity to take a different gas mask test and prove that he could do the job.
Well,

Speaker 3 I won that case at the administrative level, which should have been a slam dunk for the state to agree that he should have this job.

Speaker 3 Well, Kamala Harris fought that job, that decision all the way to eve of trial. And I remember, you know, getting the United States Department of Justice involved in this case.

Speaker 3 And it was only after the United States Department of Justice opened up a civil rights investigation from the Office of Civil Rights into the state corrections department and how the state was handling this particular case.

Speaker 3 And after I got a national coalition of civil rights organizations, ranging all the way from the American Civil Liberties Union to the Beckett Fund, a conservative organization.

Speaker 3 So a whole panoply of almost 30 civil rights organizations. Only when I had a massive press conference on this issue did Kamala Harris, four years into this case, finally agree to settle the case.

Speaker 3 So, you know, and

Speaker 3 why would she do that? Well, the prison guards union, it turns out, only wanted accommodations for certain people, but not others. And they didn't want this newcomer coming into their ranks.
So

Speaker 3 it was a blatant violation of my client's civil rights. But I finally won, but only after exerting outside pressure.
And this has been her pattern typically.

Speaker 3 She's only willing to back down, not because she's wrong, but because she's embarrassed or confronted publicly.

Speaker 3 And even then, she's had such an entire career of faking her way to the top that there's just no shame there. And, you know, she's willing to continue to lie until she gets to.

Speaker 2 How'd she get to be Attorney General of the state of California after failing? as a prosecutor for San Francisco County.

Speaker 3 Well, again, it's the machine politics of California. You mentioned Gavin Newsome.
You know, at the same time, there was consideration of whether Kamal Harris might run for governor.

Speaker 3 And basically in the upper echelons of Democrat politics in California, these things were all worked out in advance. You know, multiple people might want the job.

Speaker 3 And I can guarantee you that's happening right now in the case of Nancy Pelosi, who's

Speaker 3 reaching the end of her career at some point of her, you know, it'll naturally expire. But there's a lot of jockeying like that.
You know, which constituency is it going to be gay?

Speaker 3 Is it going to be Asian? Is it going to be black? Who's going to get the prize? So it's kind of like that.

Speaker 2 So that's all that matters.

Speaker 3 All that matters is identity politics. So, you know, at that point in time,

Speaker 3 she was a district attorney and she could have run for multiple different offices. Senate wasn't open at the time.
So she ran for the attorney general position.

Speaker 3 And so despite this massive, and I could go on for hours, I have a dossier of

Speaker 3 horrific instances of gross civil rights and human rights violations that occurred on her watch. She had the resume and she had the powerful backing.
And she checked the boxes of identity politics.

Speaker 3 First woman, first African American,

Speaker 3 first Indian American. So she checked those boxes.
She ran.

Speaker 3 Now she ran against a highly competent, seasoned district attorney of Los Angeles County, Steve Cooley, who I consider a friend and who's been a fellow warrior in the pro-life movement with me.

Speaker 3 Steve Cooley ran the strongest campaign that year of all the campaigns, and he narrowly lost by just a handful of votes. He was winning on election night.

Speaker 3 This is a familiar story to people who've been watching elections recently. He was winning on election night.
And then in California, we don't have election day. We have election two months.

Speaker 3 People are able to vote for 30 days before the election, and then they have 30 days to count the votes.

Speaker 3 In Florida, by the way, they typically announce the results of an election on election night, like in civilized countries. But in California, we don't do that.

Speaker 2 So that just makes it easier to cheat.

Speaker 3 It makes it easier to cheat. Yeah.
100%. So she won extremely narrowly.
I think it was like 2,000 votes statewide in a state of 40 million people.

Speaker 3 She won extremely narrowly and she won weeks into the election counting, ballot counting.

Speaker 2 So I think we can

Speaker 2 maybe not prove. We can assume cheating.

Speaker 3 You know, that was certainly suggested.

Speaker 3 I can't prove it today, but I can say that when you're talking about a single-party state, machine politics, differential application of safeguards on how votes are counted, like some counties match the signatures.

Speaker 3 Some counties don't bother to do that, even though that's required under the law.

Speaker 3 Some counties

Speaker 3 look the other way on irregularities, on things like is the ballot dated? Some don't.

Speaker 3 Some counties, Los Angeles County is a prime example,

Speaker 3 have over a million voters on the voter rolls at that time who were not entitled to be on the rolls, dead,

Speaker 3 having moved multiple registrations.

Speaker 2 Over a million.

Speaker 3 Over a million.

Speaker 3 A 2017 settlement after a lawsuit by Judicial Watch in Los Angeles County showed that in Los Angeles County alone, there were over a million people on the rolls who should have been removed.

Speaker 3 And they entered into a settlement. And I think four years later, they still hadn't removed those people

Speaker 3 from the voter rolls. And so when you have a state, you add COVID to that.
So four years after 2017 is COVID and you start having all-male voting because of COVID,

Speaker 3 suddenly there are a million extra males.

Speaker 2 All-mail, not the Saudi kind of all-male, but M-A-I-L. MA-I-L.
By mail.

Speaker 3 Ballot, a male ballot voting.

Speaker 2 Because all male voting would not allow Kamala Harris to be elected.

Speaker 3 That's correct. That's correct.

Speaker 3 So in our system there in California, which by the way has now become the national system by default because crazy California politicians are now running the country in many ways or seeking to run the country,

Speaker 3 it's a very dangerous situation for election integrity.

Speaker 3 And the person seeking the top job in the United States got her start with campaign and election violations, got away with it, has won elections. while

Speaker 3 getting away with it and is now seeking that top job.

Speaker 3 So if if anyone thinks that she would qualm or have any second thoughts about violating the law to get what she wants, she's done it many times in her career.

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Speaker 2 What kind of Attorney General was she?

Speaker 3 Well, she had a couple of big flashy cases involving so-called consumer protection. But civil rights organizations criticized her for repeatedly violating the rights of the accused.

Speaker 3 There were several instances of actual innocence claims by convicted felons who claimed that it was a case of false identity or otherwise.

Speaker 3 And her attorney general's office rigidly took the position that on a technicality, for example, that someone had failed to raise this claim in a timely manner, you know, because they're an uneducated criminal, they should lose the right to prove their innocence claim.

Speaker 3 She won on some of these and she lost on some of these.

Speaker 3 We We had prison overcrowding lawsuits in California during the time that she was the attorney general and federal judges ordered California to release lower-level criminals from prison due to prison overcrowding.

Speaker 3 Kamala Harris was nearly held in contempt of court for failing to do this.

Speaker 3 And the reason that her office gave under her direction for not obeying a federal court order to sustain the civil rights of these inmates was because California has a lot of wildfires and prison inmates are used as cheap labor to fight those fires.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 who's going to fight the fires if we don't have the free or cheap labor of the prisoners to be able to do that? I mean, it's akin to saying, who's going to pick the cotton if we free the slaves?

Speaker 3 And that's an argument made by our Attorney General, Kamala Harris.

Speaker 2 There are tens of millions of illegal aliens in California. You wouldn't think they would have a labor problem.

Speaker 3 No,

Speaker 3 but, you know,

Speaker 3 that's a whole other argument there. I mean, I think the left is systematically

Speaker 3 counting on

Speaker 3 the votes. of people who aren't entitled to vote in multiple different ways in order to try to win this coming election.
I mean, they have gone to court repeatedly.

Speaker 3 Mark Elias, through the Democrat machine that Kamala Harris is now enjoying the full support of, to block voter ID laws. It's illegal in California to ask for voter ID.

Speaker 3 And this is after some jurisdictions tried to pass at a local level, Huntington Beach,

Speaker 3 voter ID requirements when you register to vote, when you vote. And

Speaker 3 so the left in this country wants to make it illegal to ask for ID in just about every other, in every other way, I mean, to register, to check into a hotel last night. I had to show my ID.

Speaker 2 Of course. To do anything.

Speaker 3 To do anything. You have to do that.

Speaker 2 So if you don't have to produce an ID to vote to choose the government, why do you need to produce one to buy a firearm?

Speaker 3 Indeed.

Speaker 2 Right. Right.
Indeed.

Speaker 2 So she seemed to have, just watching, having fled myself, California, decades ago, I'm just watching this on the news, but she seemed to have special animus toward pro-life people.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 3 Thank you for raising that. So I represent David DeLeiden, who is one of the most courageous young Americans I've had the privilege to represent in my 31 years of practicing law.

Speaker 3 David went undercover in a long-form undercover investigation spanning years, posing as a purchaser of fetal tissue in order to expose Planned Parenthood and National Abortion Federation's systematic violation of federal law.

Speaker 3 It's illegal in the United States, as it should be in every civilized place, to buy fetal remains for any reason. But there is, in fact, a brisk trade in fetal remains.
And Planned Parenthood and

Speaker 3 its members of the National Abortion Federation members were circumventing or flouting federal law by

Speaker 3 by openly by offering price lists for different parts of fetal remains. And, you know, this is a this is a con on multiple levels.

Speaker 3 So women who were unsure when they went into a abortion clinic what they should do, they're in a crisis, their boyfriend has abandoned them.

Speaker 3 One of the selling points used by these abortion merchants is, well,

Speaker 3 the remains of

Speaker 3 your child will go to a good cause. They'll be used for research.

Speaker 3 It's illegal to sell those remains, but actually

Speaker 3 Planned Parenthood clinics were caught offering. them for sale to researchers.
And so David busted them by taping in San Francisco hotel lobbies at abortion trade shows.

Speaker 3 Believe it or not, a National Abortion Federation runs trade shows for abortion providers.

Speaker 3 He collected this testimony,

Speaker 3 this evidence by himself and with a couple of other helpers over the years and then exposed it in

Speaker 3 video recordings that he made public.

Speaker 3 Now, this was

Speaker 3 it used to be called journalism. Hardly anybody does that work anymore, going undercover like you did.
And it was very brave and it was explosive.

Speaker 3 As a result of this testimony, several states opened up investigations. And in some states,

Speaker 3 public funding was stripped from these clinics who did this horrific act of selling human body parts, arms, legs, livers. I mean, there was a price list that these people were circulating.

Speaker 3 And so this was obviously very upsetting to big abortion.

Speaker 3 So big abortion, which is a big supporter of Kamala Harris and other big-time Democrats in California, they can be counted on regularly to contribute millions to their campaigns.

Speaker 3 So Big Abortion went to Kamala Harris and asked her to prosecute David DeLeiden. Now,

Speaker 3 there's this pesky little problem called the First Amendment. And the First Amendment allows citizens to do journalism.

Speaker 3 And so multiple jurisdictions in the United States have ruled that journalists going undercover, even if there's a wiretapping statute,

Speaker 3 are not to be prosecuted for that because of the First Amendment. They're exercising their free speech rights.
Well,

Speaker 3 California has a wiretapping law. It's never been used against a journalist.
So it's a single-party consent state. So under the rule, both people have to consent to the taping.

Speaker 3 Now, the exception is if it's in a public place, which most of these tapings, arguably all of these tapings in California were made in a public place.

Speaker 3 So Kamala Kamala Harris ignored the First Amendment and

Speaker 3 custom made the first prosecution of a journalist in California history. So David DeLeidon was indicted for

Speaker 3 undercover journalism seven years ago. And his case has been pending now for seven years in San Francisco Superior Court.
Judge after judge after judge has

Speaker 3 not been willing to send a journalist to prison, not been willing to bring it to a head. And so people just keep changing assignments and David remains on the hook,

Speaker 3 paying all this money to defend himself from the charge of doing journalism.

Speaker 2 What penalties does he face?

Speaker 3 He faces years in prison if he's convicted.

Speaker 2 Did Kamala Harris prosecute any of

Speaker 2 the companies or people illegally selling baby parts?

Speaker 3 No, of course not. There's been no accountability for them.

Speaker 2 So she prosecuted the person who told the truth about what was happening, but not the people who were committing the crime.

Speaker 3 That's correct.

Speaker 2 That seems evil.

Speaker 3 Well, it is evil. I mean,

Speaker 3 and it's characteristic of her double standards and lack of morality throughout her entire professional life. I think that's, I think it's, look, I mean, when

Speaker 3 people are looking and when she's embarrassed, she does the right thing. I mean, there's a case of a death penalty inmate who was wrongfully convicted.

Speaker 3 And it was only after somebody circulated the embarrassing Ninth Circuit argument where her office made ridiculous arguments that she reversed herself and dropped her office's opposition to letting this person go free.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 now, what's scary about this, Tucker, is, as you and I both know, without Elon Musk being willing to invest in X and allowing us to have a free speech platform, we wouldn't be able to have this conversation publicly right now, right?

Speaker 3 Well, Kamala Harris wants to make it illegal for journalists to expose the wrongdoing that public officials regularly commit.

Speaker 3 And so if you don't have the media accountability and you don't have the ability to speak freely and criticize these politicians, they get away with crimes themselves.

Speaker 3 And so she has made it a hallmark, not only of her current campaign, but dating back to her campaign for president in 2020, that people shouldn't be allowed to speak freely on the internet.

Speaker 3 We must be able to, I mean, she confronted Elizabeth Warren during one of these debates, trying to get Elizabeth Warren, no shrinking violet herself, to agree that we must have censorship online.

Speaker 3 And Elizabeth Warren kept trying to change the subject to her credit.

Speaker 3 You know, she didn't want to agree with Kamala Harris that, yes, we must force X and every social media platform to censor commentary that might be dangerous, not just false, but so-called malinformation.

Speaker 3 Right.

Speaker 2 Something that criticizes bad leadership.

Speaker 3 Exactly. So she wants to make it illegal for us to have this kind of a conversation.

Speaker 3 And in Kamala Harris's United States, it would be illegal for us to criticize the government because that might be dangerous. It might give people the wrong ideas.
Right.

Speaker 2 They might lose control.

Speaker 3 They might lose control. And

Speaker 3 it's

Speaker 3 their hostility to free speech. I mean, you know, you saw the vice presidential presidential debate recently where a sitting governor of the United States, her running mate,

Speaker 3 spouted wrong think and wrong information about the First Amendment, saying that, for example,

Speaker 3 you can't shout fire in a crowded theater, which is a dicta from an

Speaker 3 overruled case that

Speaker 3 was a shameful case involving censorship of flyers during World War I,

Speaker 3 you know, criticism of the government.

Speaker 3 That

Speaker 3 truly a shameful case. Truly a shameful case.

Speaker 2 And that people who objected to getting into the most pointless war of all time, which was the First World War, for no reason whatsoever other than the vanity and ambition of our politicians, anyone who criticized that went to jail.

Speaker 2 And a lot of people did go to jail.

Speaker 3 People did go to jail for that. And he also tried to state the canard that hate speech is not protected by the First Amendment.
Hate speech is absolutely protected by the First Amendment.

Speaker 3 There's no such thing as hate speech. Hate speech is a relative term, which is whatever you don't people, whatever you don't like, exactly, whatever you don't like.

Speaker 3 And so the freedom that we enjoy today on social media in some circles, X specifically, would go away under Kamala Harris's regime. And she has gotten power.

Speaker 3 and abused it repeatedly throughout her career.

Speaker 3 And we saw her shameful performance in the Kavanaugh hearings, you know, for example, where she used her platform to pretend to be this big prosecutor and to hold Brett Kavanaugh accountable on zero evidence.

Speaker 3 But it's very selective, you know, when someone, when someone close to her is accused of

Speaker 3 sexual misconduct and violence, her husband, she's silent, you know? So

Speaker 2 let's explore that in a little more detail. So she marries a guy called Doug M.
Hoff,

Speaker 2 who is

Speaker 2 kind of a moral scold himself. His job has been to scold the rest of us for moral inferiority, I've noticed.
But who is he exactly?

Speaker 3 So Doug M. Hoff is a

Speaker 3 lifetime, long-term partner at big American law firms. And so he came of age, you know, around the same time as Kamala in the 1990s era.

Speaker 3 He became a partner at this law firm Venables, big partner in Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 Can I say there's no sleazier group I've ever met? I mean,

Speaker 2 a lot of big law partners. I would rather make a like a rapper, the godfather to my kids than those people.
Sorry, I just want to say that.

Speaker 3 And I grew up in that kind of a setting in New York, and you're absolutely correct. So in, I mean, if anyone's seen the

Speaker 3 fictional series Mad Men, the advertising agencies, well, that was law firms in the 1990s and even 2000s.

Speaker 3 Some people say to this day, where powerful men exploited less powerful women for their sexual gratification, cheated on their wives. You know, you want to make partner at some big law firms.

Speaker 3 And the time I was growing up, you had to sleep with a partner to do it. I myself accused a partner at my first job of sexual harassment.
And, you know, that person went on to

Speaker 3 still be a partner to this day at other big, powerful law firms. And so it's really commonplace.
Okay. So this guy is in that vein of, you know, that era of,

Speaker 3 I would really call it

Speaker 3 regressive, male-centric law firm partnership. So Doug Amhoff has a couple of kids.
He was married to, I think, a Hollywood executive, Hollywood producer, and divorced from her.

Speaker 3 You know, they remain on good terms. In fact, Doug Amhoff's law firm has represented his ex-wife in

Speaker 3 litigation, actually, involving a entertainment dispute. So they're on good terms.
Maybe he's done her some favors or what have you.

Speaker 3 But Kamala Harris dated Willie Brown and dated some other powerful men over the

Speaker 3 Montel Williams.

Speaker 3 You know, there's been allegations that she dated Phil Bronstein, the,

Speaker 3 you know, who ran the San Francisco Chronicle for many years.

Speaker 2 Married Sharon Stone, I think.

Speaker 3 Married Sharon Stone. And so.

Speaker 2 Got eaten by some kind of iguana at the zoo.

Speaker 3 She's dated a lot of powerful, she's pretty much only dated powerful guys. Let's be honest.
Okay.

Speaker 3 I don't know any ordinary Joes who've come out of the woodwork to say, oh, yeah, I was like the plumber and I dated Kamal Harris, right?

Speaker 2 What is that? What's the significance?

Speaker 3 I mean, the significance of it is, is, is she's a, she's a user. I think she's a, you know, ambitious person and she's only, you know, wanted to climb the rungs of power by

Speaker 3 aligning herself in a very medieval way with people who can further her geopolitical interests, if you will. So M.
Hoff hits that bill. He had access to the millions of Hollywood.

Speaker 3 He had access to the law firm money.

Speaker 3 And he,

Speaker 3 you know, is a person who gave her entree that really helped her out a lot in her Senate fundraising and so forth. So

Speaker 3 she's married this guy.

Speaker 3 In recent weeks, it's come out that he

Speaker 3 is very credibly accused

Speaker 3 by a woman who's told her story to multiple publications

Speaker 3 of

Speaker 3 publicly slapping her at the Canned Film Festival where this lady had been invited in the face so hard that she spun around from it.

Speaker 3 And he did it because after a couple of cocktails, he was apparently very jealous.

Speaker 3 You know, she went up to a valet to try to jump the line a little bit after waiting over an hour after the film festival got out and was trying to tip him to let them cut the line.

Speaker 3 And he got jealous of this and publicly assaulted her. Hit her in the face.
Hit her in the face. And she immediately reported this to multiple friends of hers.

Speaker 3 And in the law, this is considered what we call an excited utterance.

Speaker 3 So, if you tell somebody something horrible that happened to you in the immediate seconds and minutes afterwards, it has assigned a higher degree of credibility under hearsay law than otherwise.

Speaker 3 Right. Because, you know, people are more likely to be truthful when they've got the adrenaline running through them in the moment of what exactly just happened.
So, um,

Speaker 3 because of the dynamics of the situation, she allegedly got into the car. The valets were shocked by this disgusting scene and

Speaker 3 let them go. He forced his way into the same car.

Speaker 3 So while she's in the car with this person, the story goes that the Daily Mail has reported, she called somebody she knew back in the United States and told them what was happening.

Speaker 3 Then she also reported it to a couple of friends of hers. And so her story has apparently been consistent according to the witnesses who the press has interviewed.
And

Speaker 3 that's one instance.

Speaker 3 But the more shocking part of the story is that this woman recounts that M Hoff casually told her in the days or weeks before this incident, because she was, she was being what she called love-bombed by him.

Speaker 3 He was allegedly pursuing her for marriage. This is after he got divorced from his wife, and they were dating for a period of months.

Speaker 3 She finally, you know, sort of, I think it must have come up, how did you get divorced? Like, what happened to your marriage? And apparently apparently he told her that

Speaker 3 he had

Speaker 3 been accused by his elementary school teacher's babysitter

Speaker 3 of getting her pregnant.

Speaker 2 His elementary school age children.

Speaker 3 Children's teachers. Sorry.

Speaker 3 Sorry, that's correct. So he had two elementary school kids at the time.
And this teacher was serving as their after school babysitter slash nanny,

Speaker 3 tutor, whatever you want to call it. getting her pregnant and then causing the miscarriage, the loss of the pregnancy.

Speaker 2 Causing the miscarriage.

Speaker 3 Causing,

Speaker 3 causing the termination of the pregnancy, not explicitly through abortion, but maybe through a miscarriage. You know, that's the violence since he's through violence.

Speaker 2 Hit a woman in the face.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Exactly.
Exactly. And so

Speaker 3 now America. He told her this.
He told her this casually.

Speaker 3 So American media being what it is today,

Speaker 3 you know,

Speaker 2 kind of a big deal. The vice president's husband, who's redefining masculinity and lecturing us all about bigotry all the time, what a sanctimonious little prick that guy is.

Speaker 2 That guy is accused of hitting a woman in the face and causing another woman to have a miscarriage.

Speaker 3 Right. And I mean, you know, dating back to my years in law school, I took 40 hours of training and become a, became a counselor for victims of domestic violence.

Speaker 3 I've gone to court for many women who have been abused. And it's a,

Speaker 3 it's, you know, science behind it that someone who hits a woman once in a public place,

Speaker 3 he's almost in the face in front of hundreds of witnesses in a line. This person has done it in other circumstances.

Speaker 3 I would virtually guarantee that. It doesn't happen one time.
It's it's the culmination of a pattern of years of experience.

Speaker 3 Another story has come out about Doug Amhoff's conduct at his own law firm, Venables, where he apparently hired a lady to be his paralegal or secretary sitting on his desk.

Speaker 3 And her name was Katya, and to the point that other partners, other male partners in the office demanded their own Katya, demanded their own paralegal to sit on their desk. And

Speaker 3 this Katya episode happened during the time that Kamala Harris was engaged to be married to Doug Amhoff. She may have come into contact with this person.

Speaker 3 The implication is he uses women as objects and doesn't treat them as equals and doesn't respect them. I think that's fair.

Speaker 2 Probably not too surprising that he's like some power feminist now, right?

Speaker 3 Well, I think.

Speaker 2 Have you ever met a male feminist who treats women well? I haven't.

Speaker 3 One should always be suspicious of the male feminists. That's my experience.

Speaker 2 I've never met anybody more likely to hit a woman in the face. or cause a miscarriage than a male feminist.
I mean, they're all abusers. I've never met one who was not an abuser of women ever.

Speaker 3 Well, what concerns me as a 30-year-plus activist on domestic violence is the prospect that somebody like that might be in the White House. I think that's very scary and that the

Speaker 3 president of the United States might be an enabler of somebody like that. That really bothers me.

Speaker 2 Well, yeah, so that's the obvious question. I mean, these sound like these are credit.
This is not Brett Kavanaugh stuff.

Speaker 3 These are I think it's very credible. These stories were were sourced with multiple sources, and I think there's probably more that's going to come out.
I won't be surprised.

Speaker 2 And this is an actual human being making these allegations.

Speaker 3 Actual human being making these allegations. And, you know,

Speaker 3 they're making them to a person who has a history of looking the other way, enabling, being the beneficiary of.

Speaker 2 Well, so that's the question. Kamala Harris is a huge defender of women.

Speaker 2 All the girls are voting for her because she's for women. What's her position on these allegations?

Speaker 3 She hasn't commented.

Speaker 3 And, you know, when she was running for district attorney, I've looked at her resume at the time and she listed as one of her credentials being the, being the chairman of the board of a domestic violence advocacy organization.

Speaker 3 She has promoted herself. So perfect.
She has promoted herself as a prosecutor who's been

Speaker 3 protecting women from sex trafficking and human trafficking. And I can tell you, like, I mean, Just a quality of life issue in San Francisco where I've lived for the last almost 25 years now is

Speaker 3 that

Speaker 3 you can't get elected in San Francisco without checking the boxes of different constituencies. And one of those is the Chinese-American

Speaker 3 Chinatown community, which includes a lot of organized crime and sex trafficking. And in her years as district attorney,

Speaker 3 she never touched the sex trafficking density in Chinatown. I walked through Chinatown on my way to work before I got super dangerous in San Francisco.

Speaker 2 Chinatown is dangerous now?

Speaker 3 San Francisco is dangerous. I don't think there's any safe place in San Francisco.

Speaker 2 It was one of the safest cities in the country.

Speaker 3 And it's tragic because it's a beautiful city. Most beautiful.

Speaker 3 It's like some will call it the Paris of the United States. Cape Town.
Beautiful city. And

Speaker 3 during her years there, she really allowed sex trafficking to flourish. She was notorious as a prosecutor.
for only taking up the slam dunk cases.

Speaker 3 And even there, she had a very low prosecution rate in her later years. And so.
I mean,

Speaker 2 if you just descend, you know, to 25,000 feet, she's this member of the law enforcement community, she says. She's the prosecutor in both San Francisco and then statewide in our largest state.

Speaker 2 And both the city of San Francisco and the state of California became more dangerous and chaotic during that same period.

Speaker 3 100%. And so.

Speaker 3 Nothing happens overnight.

Speaker 3 So today's fentanyl bend that you see on every corner in San Francisco, the gangs of young criminals who come into the city to rip it off, you can trace all of that back to Kamala Harris's leadership.

Speaker 3 When she ran for district attorney in 2003, she proudly noted that she was one of the prosecutors, one of the few prosecutors who is opposed to a proposed law, a proposition that would allow prosecutors to treat

Speaker 3 juveniles who committed violent crimes, prosecute them as adults. She was opposed to that.

Speaker 3 She wanted to to protect the juvenile violent criminals and the people who would go on inevitably to create, to commit greater and greater crimes.

Speaker 3 So she's been soft on crime, at the same time, calling herself a top prosecutor all these years.

Speaker 3 I mean, she has been open about what she is in many ways, but you know, packaged it in very slick terms.

Speaker 3 And because she's a woman and because she's a minority and because so much of our culture panders to this identity politics, she's been able to somehow get away with the Marxist substance of what she has been peddling.

Speaker 2 She's a minority, it's hilarious. I mean, unless you're Hispanic, you are a minority in California, no matter what you look like or where your ancestors are from.
Right.

Speaker 2 I mean, in a state like California, where there's not a white majority, can you still is it still meaningful to call yourself a minority?

Speaker 3 Well, you know,

Speaker 3 in San Francisco and in these circles, um,

Speaker 3 somehow there's this cognitive dissonance about it. Right.
And, you know, what's even

Speaker 3 I bring, I come back to Amos Brown, who she did her first known violation of the campaign finance laws for in 2000 when she

Speaker 3 was a consultant for his campaign. Just last year, she traveled to Ghana with Amos Brown on a mission on behalf of the United States where she promised billions of dollars of aid to Ghana.

Speaker 3 And I juxtaposed that. Why Ghana?

Speaker 3 Ghana, Africa in general. I don't know, some expiation of white guilt in the United States, you know, that somehow we're responsible for crimes and impoverishment that has occurred over there.

Speaker 3 I don't know why, but, you know, we, we as a country, the Biden and Harris administration have promised billions of dollars to Africa at the same time that white Appalachia is drowning and we've had this flood damage in North Carolina where I grew up and no one's promising them even millions of dollars, much less billions.

Speaker 3 And so

Speaker 3 this is the administration and this is normal. No one even comments on it, it seems.

Speaker 2 Yeah, things are totally out of control. There's no doubt about that.

Speaker 2 How did she get from Attorney General of California to the Senate?

Speaker 3 Well, again, it was the machine politics of California. And, you know, in California, there's usually a game of musical chairs.
And so one politician is anointed for the next office.

Speaker 3 And then, you know, there's jockeying behind the scenes. And then people take their turn.
I will say to the Democrats' credit that they're usually very disciplined about these issues.

Speaker 3 And, you know, they'll have their vicious

Speaker 3 game of identity politics behind the scenes, right? But then one person will emerge from that in some deal making. Okay, you run for this, you run for that, you run for the other, you wait your turn.

Speaker 3 So it was Kamala Harris's turn to graduate from her two terms as attorney general to run for the Senate. And the pathway was cleared for her to do that.

Speaker 2 So then, I mean, if you, when you win the Democratic primary in California statewide, you're done.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the opposition, we always do as Republicans, and I'm, I've been a leader in the Republican Party, we always recruit somebody and run somebody and they do their best, and they're usually better than the Democrat.

Speaker 3 But the Democrat funding mechanism is such and the voter registration advantage is such in California that it's virtually impossible for Republicans to win statewide office.

Speaker 3 And indeed, it's been many years since we've won a statewide office

Speaker 3 in California. And so

Speaker 2 it's just, it is a one-party state.

Speaker 3 It's a one-party state, and one-party states become corrupt, and there's a lack of accountability, and the quality of the legislators goes down and down and down. And so the...

Speaker 3 The gene pool, if you will, for these higher offices in California is decreasing. And I mean,

Speaker 3 there was a point in time when you had a Jerry Brown. Now, of course, very liberal.
I didn't agree with him on just about anything, but at least he was a, you know, accomplished person academically.

Speaker 2 He's a dynamic, interesting person, actually. He's an I did.
I disagreed with him too. He's a big liberal, but Jerry Brown was not mediocre.

Speaker 3 He was not mediocre, talented, you know, intelligent.

Speaker 3 That is not the caliber of California Democrats today. I mean, I told you, for example, now

Speaker 3 cabinet member in the Biden administration, Javier Becerra, had barely practiced law

Speaker 3 before he was deemed to be appropriate to replace Kamal Harris as the Attorney General in California when she became United States. Barely practiced law.
Barely practiced law.

Speaker 3 I believe it was one year that he had practiced law. So he had an inactive law license for a period of time.
He reactivated it. Seriously? That became the attorney general.
That's the standard.

Speaker 3 It doesn't matter. It's just a waiting room for the next office and the next office.
So it's going to become interesting to see who

Speaker 3 who's anointed by their machine to replace Gavin Newsom.

Speaker 3 But we are in California behind this iron curtain of the left and taxpayers are just at the mercy of these increasingly mediocre Marxists in California.

Speaker 2 Well, this is why the productive people have left.

Speaker 3 Yep. It's something that every taxpayer definitely has to think about.

Speaker 2 And it's what do you pay all in, would you say, in California? What percentage of your gross income goes to the government?

Speaker 3 I pay well over 50%.

Speaker 3 Let me give you some facts. In San Francisco, there's a payroll tax.
So those of us who earn a wage in San Francisco, and I'm an employer in San Francisco, have to pay a payroll tax on every employee.

Speaker 3 It's over a percentage point of every employee that I hire over there.

Speaker 3 If you're making over a couple of hundred thousand dollars, you're paying 13.5%

Speaker 3 income tax in San Francisco, in California, rather. And then on top of that, you're paying the federal taxes as well.
So for that, what do you get?

Speaker 3 You can't go into a drugstore in California today and pick up a deodorant and take it to the counter.

Speaker 3 You have to call an assistant to come and unlock it for you in any city in California because we have a law that effectively legalizes theft under $950.

Speaker 3 And so

Speaker 3 I've witnessed gangs of criminals come into my CBS or Walgreens and just steal hundreds of dollars of stuff right in front of my eyes, thousands of dollars of stuff.

Speaker 3 They bring in bags, they put it into the bags, they walk out. And the employees of these stores are disciplined by their employers if they take any steps to try to interfere with

Speaker 3 wholesale larceny. Absolutely.
And by the way, it would be dumb to interfere with them because they have weapons and you as a citizen don't have a weapon typically.

Speaker 3 You know, it's virtually impossible.

Speaker 3 In San Francisco, still, there's only in the dozens of people I think have gotten concealed carry permits to carry after the Supreme Court has effectively made that mandatory as a shall issue.

Speaker 3 So, there's a huge imbalance there. And the criminals are on the ascendancy, and the Democrat politicians who made that so keep failing upward.

Speaker 3 And, you know, Kamala Harris is the most glaring example of that.

Speaker 2 So, there's a legislator in the state of California who he's the one who legalized the intentional spreading of AIDS.

Speaker 3 Scott Weiner,

Speaker 3 my state senator. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So Scott Weiner,

Speaker 2 the most obviously evil politician in America. I mean, I don't think there are many evil politicians, but he's the one who tries the least hard to hide it.

Speaker 2 Does he have any connection to Kamala Harris?

Speaker 3 Only in the sense that they're both heirs of the same machine. Yeah.
He's part of that machine.

Speaker 3 So, you know, he's, he is, he has, you know, I've, I've shown you some flyers here of the people who've endorsed her. He was anointed as the next senator after Mark Leno.

Speaker 3 It's been considered to be a gay Senate seat. You know, that's how they identify the politics there.
And so.

Speaker 2 It's a gay Senate seat? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Like that's, it's reserved for the, you know, gay Democrat politician who's next in line in San Francisco.

Speaker 2 So are we sure they're gay or they're just pretending to be gay?

Speaker 3 I think we're pretty sure Scott Wiener is gay. He's a regular fixture at the Folsom Street Fair, wears bondage bondage gear and is very out about that.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Wears bondage.
Performative. Totally cool.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 That's not weird.

Speaker 2 So I was really surprised during the Democratic primaries of 2019 to discover how unpopular Kamala Harris was in the state of California. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And that was really as a native Californian, the first moment I realized voters don't play a meaningful role in kind of anything in California.

Speaker 3 Right. I mean, so what's interesting is you got a lot of politicians out there who are Democrats who have some charm, some charisma.
For sure.

Speaker 3 Some would even call Joe Biden somebody earlier in his career. I don't know about that.
You had a lot of charm.

Speaker 2 I knew him.

Speaker 3 Barbara Boxer, who I disagreed with on everything.

Speaker 2 Barbara Boxer, very charming woman, just being honest.

Speaker 3 I mean, Dianne Feinstein even had a better pulse on the people.

Speaker 3 When Kamala Harris, as a district attorney, refused to seek the death penalty for a cop killer in San Francisco in her first year as district attorney, Dianne Feinstein called her out on it.

Speaker 3 And she said, if there were ever ever a special circumstance, it's a gangbanger shooting a cop in cold blood.

Speaker 3 And,

Speaker 3 you know, she had the common touch, she had the charm. And Kamala Harris is just lacking charisma.
And I, you know, you try to unpack that and analyze it.

Speaker 3 Well, if you have had everything handed to you from a fairly early age and she started getting her leg up, if you will, in the age of 20, 29

Speaker 3 in politics,

Speaker 2 I'm stealing that.

Speaker 2 Is it caddy? Yes. Is it awesome? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 You

Speaker 3 don't have to earn it. You don't have to try very hard.
And so she's unlikable. She's got that scoldy school marmee way about her, preachy way about her.

Speaker 3 And she doesn't have to be, she hasn't had to be likable to get to where she is. You think about her choice.
She was not the obvious choice for

Speaker 3 vice president for many of us. And like, you know, people would have said said Gretchen Whitmer, somebody from the Midwest, you know, someone who's adding something to the ticket.

Speaker 3 But the politics of the Democratic Party have become such that their most loyal constituency today is African-American women. And so, you know, Joe Biden himself was a marginal candidate.
And so

Speaker 3 The calculation was made that we need to pick the best African-American female candidate. And they had the list of three.
And Kamala Harris was selected to fill that role.

Speaker 3 She wasn't the most talented. She wasn't the most charismatic, but she checked a couple of boxes for the Democrats.
And that's how

Speaker 3 he was paired with her. And if

Speaker 3 Joe Biden and Jill Biden had thought about it, they might have gone back and asked Terrence Hallenan, who gave Kamala Harris her start in San Francisco, how that went for him.

Speaker 3 How did it go for him to hire her? into the office and give her a chance. Well, she took his, she ate his lunch pretty quickly.

Speaker 3 And that's exactly what happened with Kamala Harris, who's been scheming, I suspect, since day one, getting into the White House, undermining Joe Biden, and eventually clawed her way to the top of the ticket.

Speaker 2 Has she ever created anything that you know of?

Speaker 3 Well, she's responsible for

Speaker 3 many deaths of innocent people in San Francisco. She's created a lot of tragedy for victims of crime in our state.
She's created a lot of of civil rights violations.

Speaker 3 She has

Speaker 3 not created anything in the sense that you or I would consider a proud accomplishment. I can't think of anything.

Speaker 2 What does she believe?

Speaker 3 I think she, you know, so she's famous for saying that I have one client and it's, you know, you, the people. She has one client and it's Kamala Harris.
She believes in Kamala Harris getting ahead.

Speaker 3 I think that's at her core all that she fundamentally believes.

Speaker 2 Aaron Ross Powell, so she doesn't have a detectable

Speaker 2 philosophy or ideology or principle commitment to any set of ideas.

Speaker 3 Well, not that I can tell. I mean, I think early on she adopted the persona of advocate for the downtrodden African-American youth.
But I mean, that was

Speaker 3 that itself was focus tested, I think.

Speaker 2 And growing up in Montreal, the daughter of college professors, you know, she's big in the civil rights movement.

Speaker 3 Exactly. Exactly.
And, you know,

Speaker 3 I wrote a piece in the Wall Street Journal in 2019 when she was running for president, highlighting her flip-flops as a prosecutor on marijuana, on truancy, on even on, you know, many other forms of crime and other policy issues.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 she's unashamed about it. And she's, she just says, well, I've evolved.
Circumstances have changed. She's evolved on just about every single issue.

Speaker 3 And what that tells tells you is there is no fundamental core there. And

Speaker 3 you can look at a Bernie Sanders, for example, complete Marxist, far left, but he's kind of been consistent throughout his whole, you know, where you stand with him.

Speaker 3 He isn't going to suddenly embrace drilling or, you know,

Speaker 3 any particular issue that he's been opposed to.

Speaker 2 He's like a yurt in Vermont in the 70s. So, you know, whatever you think of yurts in Vermont, he seems to mean it.

Speaker 3 He's authentic. Yeah.
And you can't say the same of Kamala Harris. She's pronounced her name differently over the years.
She's adopted different personae depending on who she's speaking to.

Speaker 3 She's flip-flopped on marijuana usage, on gun ownership. She claims she owns a Glock today.

Speaker 3 I don't think she knows how to load a weapon. I seriously doubt she knows how to load.

Speaker 2 She has bodyguards that we pay for.

Speaker 3 Yeah, exactly. And so she's supposed to advocate for victims of domestic violence and yet silent when her husband is credibly accused of the same.

Speaker 2 Hitting a woman in the face.

Speaker 2 If this is my last question, if she is elected presidents the second week of October, as we're having this conversation, Trump is ahead, substantially ahead, appears to be, in internal polling, which I think is real.

Speaker 2 But, you know, the Democratic Party cheats. They're going to cheat in this election.

Speaker 2 We can say confidently, if she becomes president, what is the country in for, do you think, based on what you've seen?

Speaker 3 Well, the Democratic Party of today has become the party of big business and

Speaker 3 pharma. So I think they're also the party of the warmongers.
So I think you can expect

Speaker 3 big warmongering and neocons to be happy with the level of quote-unquote investment in other people's countries.

Speaker 3 You can expect

Speaker 3 the forced taking of drugs

Speaker 3 that Joe Biden tried to force on all American employers to in turn force on their employees the ineffective COVID vaccines that don't prevent what they claimed and other drugs.

Speaker 3 You know, America is one of only two countries in the world that allows drugs to be advertised on television.

Speaker 3 And, you know, the Democratic Party is definitely both parties, but certainly the Democrats are

Speaker 3 definitely taking from that side.

Speaker 3 But the most scary thing to me is the conversation that you and I are having that presumably a lot of people are going to see will not be possible in Kamala Harris's United States.

Speaker 3 She has openly called for the censorship of viewpoints that she doesn't agree with.

Speaker 3 And you can expect the permanent change to the United States Supreme Court of stuffing term limits, otherwise corrupting it away from the vision of the founders. And I think you can expect

Speaker 3 so many other innovations that Democrats have talked about, innovations like eliminating the Electoral College national popular vote as our way of

Speaker 3 permanently putting rural Americans under the heel of the corrupt coastal elites.

Speaker 3 So the way of life that my parents brought me to the United States as a small child to enjoy will not be available to Americans under the vision of Kamala Harris that she's openly promising.

Speaker 2 How will you respond if she's the president and changes?

Speaker 3 I'll be part of the resistance. Yes.
That's the only way to live. I will not live on my knees.

Speaker 3 So we will have to fight that in whatever corners of the country and whatever courts that'll still hear us until we're silenced.

Speaker 2 So if the laws change and she has promised to change them and she has the support of the Atlantic magazine and all the basically everyone in Washington and free speech ends in America and you can be punished for saying things the regime doesn't like, will you stop talking?

Speaker 3 I will not stop talking and I know you won't either. I won't.
No.

Speaker 2 I'll go to jail before I do that.

Speaker 2 Do you think Americans, I mean, to the extent we can know, but they took the COVID vaccine. I got to say, I say that with great embarrassment.

Speaker 2 People did stand passively by and allow their civil liberties to evaporate during COVID. Do you think people will do the same when their free speech right is taken from them?

Speaker 3 People are doing it.

Speaker 3 People did it. People did it in the years after

Speaker 3 2020, in the years before 2020.

Speaker 3 So many Americans have passively allowed,

Speaker 3 I mean, I would date this back to the to the Patriot Act in 2001, when I was one of the few Republicans who stood up and said, it is wrong to interrogate Americans on the basis of their background.

Speaker 3 It is wrong to surveil Americans and all of our communications. And today,

Speaker 3 in the name of national security, Republicans and Democrats have repeatedly enabled the deep state and the big state to collect all of our communications

Speaker 3 and surveillance

Speaker 3 and for our own good, force us to take drugs and censor what we're allowed to see. And so those Americans who are getting their news from

Speaker 3 cable and the nightly news and the networks are seeing a version of Plato's forms. It's a distorted vision of reality.

Speaker 3 And so without the free speech that the founders so wisely guaranteed as our first of those civil rights in the Bill of Rights and the Second Amendment, which allows us to defend those rights, this isn't a country anymore.

Speaker 3 And I think that's the apocalyptic future that we're facing.

Speaker 2 I remember you right after 9-11. I should say for those who don't know this, but you're from a religious tradition that's a

Speaker 2 small religious minority in India.

Speaker 3 And they were mistaken for radical.

Speaker 2 It sounds funny now, even to say say it, radical Muslims.

Speaker 3 I guess it's not funny at all, but there were a lot of people lost their lives in the wake of 9-11 because they were mistaken. Six were mistaken as

Speaker 3 people from Afghanistan or the Middle East.

Speaker 2 But completely different religion, nothing to do with it.

Speaker 3 Completely different religion, totally different.

Speaker 3 You know, in fact, six fought against Muslim invaders in India and safeguarded that whole subcontinent from invasion. And so it's no joke to us to

Speaker 3 have our right to exercise our faith, to not be, have the FBI show up at your door because of ignorance and start interrogating.

Speaker 2 By the way, even if they, I should just say, as a matter of principle, in fact, I know a million great Muslims personally who I love. And so even if they had been Muslims, it wouldn't,

Speaker 2 you can't hassle people because of their religion.

Speaker 3 And then the ACLU, and which I, you know, joined back then because of this specific issue, was the only voice in America fighting against Muslims being rounded up and interrogated in Los Angeles in 2001.

Speaker 3 It's abhorrent and it smacks of Japanese concentration camps and other dark periods in our American history. And today, those voices aren't there.
So

Speaker 3 conservatives have always relied on liberal civil rights activists to safeguard those rights. Hey, you know what? Conservatives sometimes get falsely arrested for crimes.

Speaker 3 And today, those liberal groups have abandoned those principles. So today, it's Republicans and conservatives who go to court.

Speaker 3 It's my nonprofit, the Center for American Liberty, that goes to court to defend the rights of students to hear differing viewpoints on campus or to defend young girls from being mutilated by abusive doctors in the name of transgender craziness.

Speaker 3 And so today, we are the civil libertarians.

Speaker 3 Ill-prepared as we are institutionally, conservatives are the last bastion to defend our country.

Speaker 2 I think you're absolutely right. And they're waking up to it.
And I just want to say, I want to add to the list of things I've apologized for over the years, including the Iraq War.

Speaker 2 I didn't perceive just how

Speaker 2 scary and

Speaker 2 anti-American the Patriot Act was.

Speaker 2 You were one of the very first, very first people on the right. You were definitely the first person on the right I saw say that.
And bless you for for catching that immediately.

Speaker 3 Well, you know, again, we go back to the Constitution. And when I look at this election,

Speaker 3 Kamala Harris has shown herself over all of her decades of public service exactly who she is.

Speaker 3 She's someone who is ruthless, who has ignored the law when it benefits her, who was even ignored as a guardian of the law, the Constitution repeatedly, the rights of the accused, the rights of the wrongfully convicted, the rights of the citizens she has sworn to defend, and those laws that she has sworn to uphold.

Speaker 3 She has ignored them when convenient. And I think that's

Speaker 3 particularly when you take on the mantle of I'm the top cop, I'm the border czar, I'm the prosecutor, I'm America's top law enforcement person.

Speaker 3 It's scary that that person wants to be the number one person with the most power in the free world. And so that's what's at stake in the selection.
So it isn't about mean tweets. It isn't about

Speaker 3 style. It's about what country we want in the next four years.

Speaker 2 It's a wonderful summation. Hermitillan, thank you very, very much.

Speaker 3 Thank you for having me, Tucker.

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