Tara Reade says Joe Biden sexually assaulted her in 1993. After talking publicly about it, she says she's so fearful for her well-being that she left the country and moved to Moscow.

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Speaker 2 So your lawyers have sued the Biden Department of Justice for misconduct. Tell us about the suit, why you filed it, what you hope to achieve by it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, well, my attorney actually had filed a complaint with the Inspector General about the way I was treated by the FBI and DOJ and how they were harassing me. And they didn't receive a response.

Speaker 3 Surprise, surprise. So,

Speaker 3 after we waited, there was no response. He filed a tort claim, and it's for $10 million.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 basically, what the outcome will be, hopefully, is that they will open my FBI files and then expunge them.

Speaker 3 And the criminal case that has been opened against me in Northern California, the one that's sealed, will be revealed

Speaker 3 because that was opened by DOJ and FBI, where they took all my Twitter communications, now X,

Speaker 3 it's called, but

Speaker 3 Gmail. you name it, all my social media was taken under sealed warrants.
The only reason I know about the sealed warrants and it was publicized is because a Twitter lawyer had called

Speaker 3 and told me that this has happened and they had made a motion in court to tell me. And

Speaker 3 so this case had impaneled a grand jury, so it went pretty far. So it's just like shy of indictment.
But what are they going to indict me for? Well, they won't tell me.

Speaker 3 Now, as an American citizen, that's infuriating, right?

Speaker 2 But I think a lot of, I am confused. I think a lot of people watching this are confused.

Speaker 2 You, of course, are most famous for recounting in public your experience of sexual assault, and I think it was a sexual assault by then Senator Joe Biden in an elevator when you worked for him.

Speaker 3 Not an elevator, a quarter. A quarter.

Speaker 2 I beg your pardon. And unlike a lot of people who make these claims,

Speaker 2 you have contemporaneous evidence in your mother's call to Larry King Live, which came out years later. It's an amazing story.

Speaker 2 And I think it's a credible story. But what did you do wrong? How did you wind up the subject of a sealed potential indictment of a criminal investigation by the U.S.
government? What was your crime?

Speaker 3 I think not shutting up. I think because I just wouldn't stop talking.
I kept trying to push for an investigation. If you recall,

Speaker 3 Jen Saki,

Speaker 3 she was asked one question one time, Peter Ducey, I think, asked the question and said, you know, about me, about Tara Reed. And she said, oh, that's been litigated.
It was never litigated.

Speaker 3 She lied outright. It's never been litigated.
It's never been investigated.

Speaker 3 And I was asking for an investigator. All they did was pay money to have media hit pieces done on me.

Speaker 2 But of course they did.

Speaker 2 And you were attacked. The whole believe all women thing turned out not to be true, I guess.
Right.

Speaker 3 No, no, it's not true. There's no me too.

Speaker 2 There's no me too.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 a criminal investigation into you is a completely separate category

Speaker 2 and really an escalation of a kind most Americans can't understand.

Speaker 2 Like,

Speaker 2 why would they possibly be criminally investigating you?

Speaker 3 Do you think that's the only thing that you're doing? Well, there were two. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I mean, one, the first one was for perjury when I was an expert witness, and it took me lawyers and thousands of dollars to clear that. They had to drop that case.

Speaker 3 And then they came at me with a sealed case, which I can't do anything about because I'm not even supposed to know about it.

Speaker 2 And this is the federal government?

Speaker 3 Federal, the DOJ, FBI. And so

Speaker 2 there is a

Speaker 2 Soviet, it's hard to believe

Speaker 2 what you're saying is true, but I think it's checkable. There's a sealed case against you.
They're investigating you for a crime. They won't tell you what the crime is.
Right.

Speaker 2 But it clearly is a felony, or they claim it's a felony. Right.
Correct.

Speaker 3 And I posted the sealed warrant, and that's been in the media. So the sealed warrant is visible.
You can see the case number. Journalists have tried to look it up.
My attorneys tried to look it up.

Speaker 3 No one will tell them what it is. Then they started coming at me in more subvert ways, which was, you know, basically harassment, death threats.

Speaker 3 Particularly, it amped up when Marjorie Taylor Greene and Representative Matt Gaetz asked me to testify in the whistleblowers panel like I was going to talk about how difficult it is to be a whistleblower because I've been so targeted

Speaker 3 and then when I was about to testify

Speaker 3 you know I'll get to that part, but when I was about to testify, things really amped up as far as threats and undermining me. And it was hard to get a job.
People thought I was a security threat.

Speaker 3 There were, you know, innuendos, you know, my reputation was destroyed, and we've talked about this.

Speaker 3 So my attorney basically said, okay, that's that. You know, we're going to, you know, file this complaint.

Speaker 3 And this came after, you know, when I was here in Moscow, Russia, I

Speaker 3 came here. to publicize my book and to oversee the translation of it.
And I did an interview with Channel 1

Speaker 3 and Channel 1.

Speaker 3 And Channel 1 is sanctioned, apparently and um apparently that was um i was here for vacation so i had packed literally for for seven days five days um didn't have much with me and then about midway through i started getting um you know messages that i was from former intelligence they were trying to get me messages whistleblowers like look you know you're in danger of being indicted if you go back.

Speaker 3 I talked to my lawyers about indicted for what?

Speaker 3 For FARA, the Foreign Registration Act, which is the same thing they went after maria butana for and paul manafort and paul manafort and maria butina if you read there's a really good article called the spy who wasn't who really lays out why she wasn't a spy and she wasn't she's now working for the state duma but um she was definitely targeted but that set the president paul manafort in her case but wait just to be clear you're an american yeah who has accused the sitting president of sexually assaulting you while you worked for him uh as a young woman and you have evidence to prove that that's true right contemporaneous evidence right is key and all of a sudden you're the criminal because you wind up in a foreign city and you do a TV interview is that am I missing something well they in 2019 if you recall one of the smears that they made against me was that I was a Russian asset even though I had no ties to Russia immediately out the gate That was the Biden campaign told that to the New York Times.

Speaker 3 They said that was their first response. Not a denial, not anything else.
They said, oh, she's a Russian asset.

Speaker 3 And that started in 2019 and got spread around.

Speaker 3 And then it continued on and had a life of its own because it was spread by former Obama staff, Edward Isaac Dovere, people like that, who have some clout on social media and people listen.

Speaker 3 So unfortunately, there was that kind of overhanging it. So when I came to Moscow.

Speaker 2 So you make this allegation against the president of the United States, then a candidate.

Speaker 2 A credible allegation. Once again, I wouldn't be talking to you if I didn't think it was credible.
I think it is credible.

Speaker 2 I think it's true. And they don't even respond.
They just accuse you of being a traitor to your country. Immediately.

Speaker 3 That was the first response, not even a denial at first. So I thought that was interesting.

Speaker 2 And the media amplify this. Oh, yes.

Speaker 3 New York Times amplified it. Washington Post did.
Everyone did. Politico, you know,

Speaker 3 they did their due diligence for the empire, I guess.

Speaker 3 I didn't really understand the media at that time. Now, you have to understand, I'm a regular citizen.
I don't have a PR team. I don't have lawyers.

Speaker 3 Now I have a lawyer, but then I didn't. I didn't have resources.
Where were you living? I was living in California. And

Speaker 3 I was really naive about

Speaker 3 the media. And now I understand.
I think a lot of people. in 2019, 2020 were still a little naive.

Speaker 2 And just to be clear, it sounds like you've been a fairly liberal Democrat your whole life.

Speaker 3 I was. I really had, you know, really believed.
I worked for Leon Panetta as an intern. I worked for Joe Biden.
I worked as a Democratic operative on congressional campaigns.

Speaker 3 I was trained by Homeland Security. I was trained by Seattle police to help with domestic violence.
I was a train-the-trainer.

Speaker 3 I donated my time. I worked for Democrats.
I believed in it. believed in it wholeheartedly.

Speaker 3 And so it's been heartbreaking when I came forward with evidence how I was treated and how I was still treated. Like to this day, like I just get, I mean, I get called right now a defector, a traitor.

Speaker 3 I did back then before I left the U.S.

Speaker 2 I keep stepping on your story and I'm and I'm sorry, it's just it's just a remarkable story. When you lay it out and give the timeline, it's just, it's amazing what's happened to you.
So

Speaker 2 just back to where you were before I interrupted you. So you're here on vacation to get a translation of your book done.
Yes.

Speaker 2 And you do an interview with local TV, and then you start getting messages from informed people who you trust.

Speaker 2 Tara, you're in danger of being indicted. And what happens then?

Speaker 3 Well, I would be put into a cage because with the FAR Act, it's a backdoor into the Espionage Act, essentially. It's the Federal Registration Act.

Speaker 3 So you have to register as a foreign agent registration.

Speaker 2 Foreign Registration Act.

Speaker 3 It's administrative. They never used to even use it, but now they're using it as a backdoor to espionage.

Speaker 3 So, you know, you might recall the Uhuru group, right?

Speaker 2 Very well.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 2 The black nationalists that we defended.

Speaker 3 Right. They're being sentenced this month up to 10 years in prison.
And I've read through all their whole legal case, and, you know, I have a lot of greed. So I'm interested in those things.

Speaker 3 And you know what? The charge is sowing discord. So I want people to really hear this because sowing discord shouldn't be a crime.
And they shouldn't be able, but they're being

Speaker 2 discord?

Speaker 3 Sewing discord. That's the term under the FARA Act and the backdoor into the Espionage Act.
And so they're facing up to 10 years in prison or more. Their passports have been taken away.

Speaker 3 The sentencing happens this month.

Speaker 3 They have no ties to Russia. They simply spoke out against the proxy war against Russia via Ukraine.
And for that, they've been punished. And

Speaker 3 what I want people to hear is that it's not just January 6 people that are being targeted by the DOJ. No.
It's to the left. It's to the right.
That's right.

Speaker 3 It's someone like me that just had a claim against my former employer that should have been investigated properly and should have been adjudicated in a proper way.

Speaker 3 And I should have been treated with some dignity instead of having my life torn to pieces.

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Speaker 2 So, again, back to the story. You're in Moscow, where we are now,

Speaker 2 and you hear that you could be indicted or punished under the Foreign Agent Registration Act for giving this interview with a local TV station. And what do you do?

Speaker 3 How do you respond? Well, I wanted to look at all the data points. You know, I'm not an impulsive person.
I like to think, and I didn't have a lot of time.

Speaker 3 I mean, we're talking, I had to make this in a 48-hour window, right?

Speaker 3 And so this was a lot of pressure, but I did. I took the time.
I talked to my daughter for hours. I talked to my lawyer.

Speaker 3 i got more data points of other people who had opinions that were educated um and then i talked to matt gates

Speaker 3 um and i and i am forever grateful that he took my call and um he was

Speaker 3 you know i i want to give him some credit here the congressman from floor yeah because i was supposed to go the first week of june and walk with him on the senate floor to get my senate thing opened and I wanted to do that.

Speaker 3 And he advised me. He didn't advise me.
I should rephrase that. He gave me information.
He basically just said, you know, I'm worried about you. I'm worried about your personal safety.
And

Speaker 3 you're good where you are, you know, that kind of thing. And

Speaker 3 he just said he knew how those people operated. And so he was concerned about me.

Speaker 2 Those people being employees of the U.S. government.
Right.

Speaker 3 And he sits on the intelligence committee. So when a U.S.
congressman tells you something like that, it's remarkable. That's a remarkable data point, right? That's a remarkable data point.

Speaker 3 And I trusted him.

Speaker 3 He could, because he could have easily just said, oh, sure, it'll be fine and i did ask him i said please you know um congressman can you help me can you get me off these charges can you and he said no i can't i'm sorry i can't my hands are tied i i don't even know what they are and sometimes some of this intelligence isn't shared but what i can tell you is just that um i understand how these people operate and yeah i'm really worried about your personal safety Because I had received death threats at that point.

Speaker 3 And you think about it, I'm not that well known. I would have been in the news maybe a day or two.

Speaker 3 Maybe you or someone else might have talked about me for a couple of times, but it would have been considered a conspiracy theory, like Adam Rich, right?

Speaker 3 And his death? Seth Rich, right? Seth Rich, yeah. Seth Rich.

Speaker 2 So I, what I, what I find so compelling and shocking about your story is that I still don't understand what you did wrong.

Speaker 3 In their eyes, they see me as somehow being

Speaker 3 a traitorous, is the words that they use. I think in the USA today, there was

Speaker 3 a former CIA agent who gave a quote saying that I, my thoughts about America made him viscerally angry because I was talking about inflation.

Speaker 3 I was talking about the fact that there's 600,000 homeless. I was talking about the fact, you know, I'm involved with geopolitics.
I have a law degree. I'm interested in it.

Speaker 2 So, but you're an American. You spent your whole life in the United States.
You worked for the sitting president,

Speaker 2 who you say sexually assaulted you. You're upset about the state of our economy.

Speaker 2 How does that make you a traitor?

Speaker 3 Apparently, it does. And apparently, my views about the proxy war against Russia via Ukraine.
And in 2019,

Speaker 3 I had said, and this is true, that if Joe Biden was elected, that he would go to war with Russia.

Speaker 2 You were right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 3 just to bottom line, the path that you took for people who are hearing this for the first time, You decided you could not come home after that I decided then and then I had to figure out well What does one do because you can't just like decide to stay in a country without proper paperwork and a visa right you can't just like oh, I'm just gonna hang out that would make you a stateless person Yes, yes.

Speaker 3 So I reached out and I'm forever grateful to Maria Butina because Masha helped me and she helped me with the process of how to just the how-to of applying for political asylum, which I did.

Speaker 3 And it took a few weeks.

Speaker 3 Only 10% of those cases get accepted, but

Speaker 3 they do their due diligence, and they felt that there was enough of a problem where they had to give me.

Speaker 2 This is after speaking to a U.S. Congressman who sits on the House Intel Committee who told you he was worried about your safety.
Correct.

Speaker 2 How hard a decision was that for you? That's a big decision.

Speaker 3 It was a big decision, but it wasn't just what he said. And I don't want to put this all on

Speaker 3 shoulders. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It was several people's.

Speaker 3 And one i can't really say who it was but went to great risk to send me a message to say if you get off that plane they're going to take you into custody for what and violation of the far act probably they were talking about violation of sanctions there was talk that i had red notices which are um you know uh arrest warrants like i could have been picked up in istanbul and by whom and for what

Speaker 3 by the u.s

Speaker 3 proxy by by you know that that's how they do it with interpol they arrest on behalf of the U.S., like in the UAE, in Dubai.

Speaker 3 So I had a lawyer who actually specialized in people that have that happen to them. And she got the red notices pulled.

Speaker 3 And so now those are gone now that I'm under asylum. But they'll extradite you from every country.
So the only two countries that will not extradite an American back to America is Iran and Russia.

Speaker 2 This is a really crazy story. Yeah.
It sounds like you don't have any way to get your story to an American audience.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 3 No, it's very difficult. I mean, I have a large Twitter following and I have a podcast that I do.

Speaker 3 You know, but...

Speaker 2 But no one has called...

Speaker 2 What's so interesting to me is

Speaker 2 we have supposedly free media in the United States as a backstop against a check against government overreach, too much power in the hands of too few.

Speaker 2 And so it's supposed to be a self-correcting system.

Speaker 2 If something truly crazy and totalitarian happens to an American citizen, our media is supposed to take an interest and alert the rest of the country so they know what's going on so they can say, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 2 I may not like Tara Reed and I don't agree with her or whatever, but you can't do that. You can't arrest someone for no crime or for complaining about the president.

Speaker 2 Like, has anyone from the New York Times called you? Or politico, politico? No, no. The daily beast to say, you know, just tell us what's happened with you.

Speaker 3 Those, those, no, of course not. Those, they only do hip pieces.
They only, and they're, they're working for the empire. There's no question.

Speaker 3 They're just working for the, you know, as proxies to the U.S. government.

Speaker 3 I mean, I think, you know, some of the reporting that Matt Taibbi and Michael Schellenberger have been doing has been really valuable.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 3 Because they've been showing how there's think tanks, actual think tanks that basically put out articles to these, and then they reprint them. They don't even change them that much.

Speaker 3 So these are planted articles. Like there was all kinds of lies told about me that I lied about my education.
Now, I never lied about my education, that I defected to Russia.

Speaker 3 I didn't defect to Russia. I was threatened with my life and my family, and I didn't want my family harmed.
I didn't want to be at risk of being put in a cage.

Speaker 3 And I can't tell you what that conversation was like with my daughter.

Speaker 3 That it was hard.

Speaker 2 Have you seen her?

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 2 Why?

Speaker 3 I can't. I can't.
Under political asylum, I can't leave the borders of Russia.

Speaker 3 Because, you know, I'm under the protection. And to be frank, I i don't know when i can ever go back to the us i don't know when there's a safe but what have you done

Speaker 3 in their eyes i've committed some sort of crime and i haven't done anything and that's the thing i've never committed a crime i'm not a traitor i'm not a spy not a spy for russia i don't have tons of resources i don't have a pr team i just told the truth about joe biden I told the truth about what he did to me and I told the truth about the corruption.

Speaker 3 And I wouldn't be quiet about it. And I was demanding to be heard.
But let's say I'm not going to get $83 million like Eugene Carroll or a perfume line like Stormy Daniels, right?

Speaker 3 Or treated like with dignity in the press like those women were because they accused a Republican. No,

Speaker 3 I was attacked and

Speaker 2 no one has defended you?

Speaker 3 Not really. Rose McGowan.

Speaker 3 She really has. Megan Kelly gave me a platform a couple of times.
Of course, you have.

Speaker 3 Other than that, independent media, even the lefties, even though the Me Too reporters, silence. You don't see any Me Too reporters coming and telling my story, do you? Never once.
They protect Biden.

Speaker 3 This is all about catch and kill. And if you recall, I went to Times Up for help, right?

Speaker 3 Time's up, Roberta Kaplan, who just represented Eugene Carroll.

Speaker 3 Roberta Kaplan had to resign from Time's Up because she was smearing me and the Cuomo, you know, survivors, the people that talked about Cuomo. And because she did that, she had to resign.

Speaker 3 Time's up was dismantled.

Speaker 3 And she went on to represent

Speaker 3 Eugene Carroll, and Eugene Carroll publicly said that she was going to now support Biden and give him money.

Speaker 3 Just, it's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 It's totally evil.

Speaker 2 It's completely evil.

Speaker 3 It is evil.

Speaker 2 Where does it, I just can't get past this question, and I don't want to upset you, but of your daughter. You have a child in the United States.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 That's been hard. You know, I missed her graduation.

Speaker 3 She got her master's. They went after her, actually, while I was here in Russia.

Speaker 3 The first month I was here,

Speaker 3 a bunch of democratic troll farms or whatever

Speaker 3 doxxed her photo, her work address, tried to get her fired. She was interning as a therapist.

Speaker 3 She's a therapist with children she works with play therapy with children who've been traumatized and they tried to get her fired and they they were saying it out loud and calling the work but luckily you know my daughter's work is you know not interested in those kinds of you know smears so my daughter's fine but like you know having her face plastered everywhere because she's associated with me um my horse was almost kidnapped

Speaker 3 They literally came and took him almost on a trailer and luckily the owners of the stable were there.

Speaker 3 So I'm getting this calls at three in the morning in Moscow that my horse is being loaded on a trailer by someone I don't know who's going to take him for Joe Biden. That was what they were saying.

Speaker 3 They were taking him for Joe. Like some, so luckily he's safe.
But I mean, it's been sort of relentless. It's been, you know, and I know public figures,

Speaker 3 you know, I don't consider myself a public figure, but other public figures do get harassed like that. But when you're a regular citizen like I am, it's, it's really daunting,

Speaker 3 especially if we don't have the resources to protect yourself, right? And which I didn't.

Speaker 2 Do you expect to be able to see your daughter anytime soon?

Speaker 3 I don't know. I don't feel comfortable putting her

Speaker 2 in

Speaker 3 the spotlight again.

Speaker 3 She's about to get married.

Speaker 2 Can you go to the wedding?

Speaker 3 I can't go to the wedding.

Speaker 2 And,

Speaker 3 you know, I'm upset,

Speaker 3 but

Speaker 3 you know, and I don't want to be a victim here. I just, I'm angry.
And I want Joe Biden to be held accountable. He's taken years of my life.
He's destroyed it three times over.

Speaker 3 And I'm just, I'm going to continue to fight.

Speaker 2 Tarip, thank you very much for talking to us. Thank you.

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