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Victor Davis-Hansen is the Martin and Ely Anderson Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and the Wayna Marshabusky Distinguished Fellow in History at Hillsdale College.

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Hey, in a few weeks, Victor, that aforementioned Hillsdale.

You'll be out there teaching for a little bit, as you've done now, I think, 20, 21 years.

So

we are, this particular episode will be up on the 13th, so after the Olympics ends, but later in this particular episode, I'd like to ask Victor about the Olympics as a thing, classical.

Yesterday was August 9th, and that was the 10th anniversary of the death of Michael Brown.

And I think that is still a very relevant thing in our society.

We'll get Victor's thoughts on that.

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And maybe we'll pile on at the end on Tim Wall's Victor.

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Victor,

let's kick off maybe with Michael Brown here and our good friend Eli Steele, who is the son of and partner now in many documentary projects with his dad, your great friend, Shelby Steele, who's a fellow at the Hoover Institution.

Eli is very active in social media, and he posted yesterday: it's been 10 years since Darren Wilson killed Michael Brown.

Shelby Steele and I made what killed Michael Brown.

And I am often asked what the lasting impact has been.

Answer, what happened in Ferguson split America into two, and we have not recovered.

Victor, do you think uh eli is correct there did did the death of michael brown uh split america and i would have to agree yeah i think it i think it did i think that was the um

the three women who founded collars and the other two who founded blm got that was when they took off

and that was important because the autopsy

showed

that the officer did not shoot him in the back.

And it was clear that he, you know, hands up, don't shoot,

that

he didn't turn around and he shot him in the back.

And it was clear that Michael Brown attacked that officer.

It was clear that he was

stealing something in the store.

He manhandled the manager.

He was high on marijuana.

He was walking down.

It was just a routine stop.

And he tried to wrestle the officer and then he took off.

And then the officer, who had been attacked,

and he had almost lost his weapon, told him to stop.

He turned around and the officer said he was coming forward.

That was proven by the autopsy.

And there's video of the other things.

That didn't matter.

So there was the riots.

And then we had the CNN anchor women, hands up, don't shoot.

And they walked around the studio.

And then it was, they went, this was something that was a foretaste of Juicy Smollett when Kamala Harris said, this is a modern day lynching.

Remember that?

Kamala Harris was one of the first people to whip up the hysteria that Juicy Smollett was an iconic figure and he'd been lynched, so to speak.

So

that started it off.

And what do I mean, it?

I mean, the idea that you have a narrative and you feed it to the media, and the media knows it's false, but it's what, I guess, Shelby coined that term, romantic truth.

It's not true, but poetic truth.

Yes, thank you.

Poetic truth, and therefore

it should triumph over real truth because it's meant to affect social change, etc.

And yeah, that was when Obama got in on it.

They all did.

Eric Holder.

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They found nothing.

They found only this fact that exonerated the the police.

I think at some point people get, I mean, this comes off after the Duke La Crosse people,

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And then we found out from the Washington Post

that given the 11 or 12 million people

who were arrested each year,

given that demographic, that white males were killed as frequently as black males, given their demographic representation.

And so this whole thing was built on this myth of systemic racism, endemic in the police, and then it led to defunding the police, and then it led to high crime when you had cities with no bail, and you've got the mesh you have now.

So yeah, it was the beginning of that.

I recommend to our listeners to check out Eli Steele if you're on X

and also the documentary.

that he and his dad

made about eight years ago.

And Shelby was actually on one of the earlier versions, this podcast suppressor.

Remember they discussed it.

Amazon suppressed it.

Yeah.

It's called What Killed Michael Brown, which is interesting because it's not who killed Michael Brown.

It's what killed Michael Brown.

It's a terrific documentary.

I heartily, heartily recommend it.

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Victor,

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Victor,

I don't want to, you can say whatever you want.

It's your show, right?

The Olympics will have just ended by the time this episode is out, although we're talking on the penultimate day in real time, you and I.

But

you're a renowned classicist, among many things, and I just would like to hear your take, and I think our listeners might too, on the Olympics as a thing of antiquity, of a thing that was,

was it important?

How important might it have been to the ancient Greeks?

Have you written about it or reflected on it?

Yeah, I have in the past.

It was important in a lot of ways.

They dated the calendar.

It was not until

the early medieval period when we started doing BC and AD.

So the Olympic Games were 776,

and that's how they dated years in Greece.

So year one was 770, what we call 776 BC.

And it went on for 11 centuries until, I think, 393 AD, even under the Roman occupation.

So

it was a chronological item.

But remember, there was no Greek nation in classical Greek.

There's no word in the Greek vocabulary for natio nation.

There's words, you know, like arce, empire,

hegemenia, hegemony.

There's some words for federation, koinon, and stuff like that.

So you had these 1,500 city-states, and they were feuding and fighting.

And every

four years, they would meet at Olympia and have a truce for over

somewhere between five and seven days, and they would participate in track and field.

There was no break dancing, there was no rock climbing, There was no

aesthetic swimming, none of that.

But they did have javelin throwing, shot put, pancradion,

boxing, wrestling, track events.

They even had,

I'm just recalling,

I took a course in the Olympic Games in graduate school.

We had to read primary source.

They had something called the climax in boxing.

It's kind of, have you been watching this Joe,

Dana White's new sport about slapping?

Oh, my gosh.

Yeah, I don't know how they can get away with it.

It seems like they would get traumatic brain injuries.

Right.

But they had something like that.

I don't know if he got it from the Olympics.

When you were boxing and you came into an impasse, each boxer got

a chance to hit the other person, take the shot, and then take it in.

I think that was called climateches, but I'm not sure.

I can't remember.

It's been a long time.

But anyway, this was a way to discuss things.

And we've got to remember that

we look at the Olympic Games every four years, but they don't.

They had two main festivals of athletics.

And there was also, by the way,

competitions

in

chariot racing, horse racing, and musical and literary productions.

We could, you know, maybe somebody could read their novel at Paris.

But the point I'm making is they had the so-called Delphic games for Apollo.

These were for Zeus.

They were each for a particular deity or an aspect of a deity.

And that was every four years at Delphi, the Pythian Games.

And that was in honor of the Pythian

seer

that was based in the Temple of Apollo at Delphi.

There were the prophetess that could predict the future, supposedly, the oracle.

And so in between, they had kind of, I don't want to call them, I said that once.

I got in big trouble when I was a student.

We were listening to a lecture by a very distinguished excavator, Oscar Brenier, a very brilliant guy at the Isthmian Games.

That's near the Isthmus of Corinth.

Those were every

four years or maybe every two years.

And I said, this is kind of like the

minor leagues.

It's not the minor leagues.

This is an under.

And then there was the Nimian Games.

So there are four Panolinic games.

And that was an honor.

The Isthmian Games at the Isthmus of Corinth were in honor of Poseidon, of course.

And then there was the Nimian Zeus, another aspect of Zeus, different from Olympian Zeus, at Nimea,

and that was excavated by the University of California.

And when you put them all together is what I'm getting at, Jack.

Every two years, you went, oh, it's Olympic Games.

We'll see you next year at the Isthmian Games.

We'll see you in two years at the Nimeon Games.

We'll see you

for

another two years at

the Pythian Games.

So they were always every two years.

But I shouldn't say that they were synchronized.

So you had four, every four years.

You would have the

Olympic Games, every four, the Pythian, and then every two,

Isthmian and and Nimian.

And so you're basically having a festival every year is what I'm getting at, because they were staggered.

And I don't think the other games were as important as the Olympic Games.

Maybe the Pythian Games came close because it was, you know, it was closer to Athens, et cetera.

But

everybody participated in the nude,

and the idea was there would be no war during the truce.

And gossip, this is a place where politicians from all the city-states gossiped or business leaders, you know, tried to,

I shouldn't say business, that's an archaic term, but people who in commerce and trade would exchange stories, et cetera.

So it was a social networking place as well.

And

I can't figure out what's going on with the Paris Olympics, Jack, because they kept saying, record, record 30 more million people

are watching, but they always compare it to the Tokyo Games of 2020 when we had COVID, remember?

Yeah.

It was locked down and nobody watched it.

And

it was weird.

So I haven't, you know, I've just seen all this hype because mostly they're saying this is the city of Paris.

So people are

tuning in to see the Eiffel Tau or the Arcade Triumph

or the

beautiful tree-lines, avenues, and boulevards of Paris

are human interest stories about croissants or something, but you can't really tell

how the audience adjusted for demographics growth and population growth is doing versus, I don't know, these past Sydney games or Seoul game.

You don't know.

My suspicion is

that if you adjusted it for demographics in the United States, it's not doing all all that well, but I don't know.

I don't, I saw some headline that it was not.

And, you know, I personally, Victor, don't really care much for them.

My wife, she's a woman.

I used to watch them religiously.

Well, that's, yeah, I was going to ask you, did you, growing up, were you affixed to the TV for 10 days?

Yes, I was.

I watched them all the time.

And I remember the 1984 Los Angeles games after the, you know, Moscow boycotted it.

I watched it all the time.

I think that was Bruce Jenners, wasn't it?

When he was...

Or was that?

No, no, that was earlier.

But I watched it all the time.

And they had great ratings.

The 72 were very with the with the murder of the Israeli athletes.

That was very

stuck in my mind.

Yeah, you know, it's just important that was.

I just feel that,

I mean, when I looked at the the games i never really got over the

you know the last supper trans thing right and then

it was kind of

biles and the other people that weird kind of worshiping the person in the front and then she had a social media

back and forth with a former roommate teammate and then we had the trans boxer who beat the brains out of all the women and was bragging that he won the golden medal.

And then you had that awful Olympic committee person saying, We're not going to go back and

overriding the International Boxing Commission's ruling that men shouldn't be beating the brains out of

women.

And

it's just,

then there was, I think, the tri-athletes, didn't they swim in the San River?

And

I just

poopy.

There was a lot of fecal.

Yeah, I just remember that

they're bragging.

It reminds me of what they do with the NBA.

When they have an NBA playoff, they say, 4 million people watched.

It was so much great.

Michael Jordan did it in like 1990.

It was 35 million people watched the playoff.

And they're talking about 33 or 34 million.

Way up.

Rating soar from Tokyo.

Well, Tokyo, nobody watched it.

There was no, everybody was in COVID.

But the point was, I remember, I can remember this

number.

It was like 180 million Americans cumulative watched the L.A.

Olympics.

It was a big thing.

It used to be a big thing.

So what am I getting at?

I'm getting at

just like LeBron and those guys ruined the audience for

the NBA and Steve Kerr and all that snark about China and then taking the knee and all the politics and lecturing America, how horrible it was, and all the pictures of him reading Malcolm X with his reading glasses and

commentary.

And same thing with Disney, same thing with the Olympics, same thing with the Tonys, the Oscars, the Grammys, the Emmys.

It just, I keep using that term, the monastery of the mind.

I just think people have tuned out.

Right.

At least enough of them to make it an iconic shared event.

People just say, you know what, count me out.

I don't need to be lectured.

I've worked eight eight to five every day.

I can't afford anything.

I can't buy a house.

Cars are too expensive.

I got enough to worry about with having somebody get on the television and tell me I'm a transphobe because I think it's wrong for a biological male to beat the brains out of a young woman.

Yeah.

And that's what we are.

Yeah.

You and I of our, you know, certain age have memories of the Olympics as allegedly

an amateur sporting event that was then infected by the commies because, you know, these guys weren't amateurs, the Soviet hockey players and the Soviet basketball players were essentially professionals from their country.

But and then we had the injection of the international politics and then the ideology of the you know the crotch ideology.

And you're right, you're just like, who the hell?

I just

don't know why they do this because it's

just self-defeating.

You know what I mean?

It's just

it, nobody's watching these things.

And

take the Grammy Awards this year.

They were all talking about they were going to get it up from last year.

And I think they went down to like, I don't know,

way down to eight or nine.

And so they said, wow.

We did everything right.

And they kind of told people to stop the political.

And they got up to maybe, I don't know, 16 million people watched it.

But

I can remember

Michael Jackson, who never really uttered a political statement.

Remember, he did the moonshot.

I think that was in the 80s.

He got 50 million.

50.

And that was what they used to get.

So now they get a third of that, and they're patting themselves on the back when the country has gone from 270 million to 330 million.

And when you write about that, people say, well, there's too many.

There's 500 stations on TV.

There's video games.

Yeah, yeah, I get that.

But just a lot of people have

tuned off and they'll say, you know what?

I don't want to hear it anymore.

I don't want to hear that my grandparents were homophobes.

I don't want to hear my parents were racist.

I don't want to hear.

that I am illiberal.

I don't need it anymore.

And their attitude, the corollary is that, is these people who are turning off the NBA and turning off the Oscars and turning off the Olympics, they don't want to look at the Last Supper, but their attitude is,

why am I so bad?

I get up every morning.

I don't practice systemic racism.

I'm either married to someone who's not white or my brother or cousin is.

Our Thanksgiving in this multiracial society reflects the demographics.

I don't break the law.

I don't riot.

I pay my taxes.

I don't cheat.

And that's what's happening.

That's why getting in the election, you know, don't don't, I watched the rally last night,

and it was, they're all 70% good.

You know what I mean by that?

He gets people excited.

He had some really funny things.

He said, you know,

you know how Kamala Harris has had three rallies and they are identical.

I mean, it's just eerie.

Every single word, every laugh is the same stump.

And he was making fun of that.

But then, you know, he says, and she's stupid.

That's why she's not having, and she's dumb.

Dumb.

So

that this election is going to be decided, as I keep saying, Michigan, Wisconsin,

and Pennsylvania, and I think Arizona, maybe Georgia, South North Carolina,

Nevada.

And he had strong leads there and all of them against Biden and they're eroded.

And he's got to get back that 2% to 3%.

The only way he's going to win it is to get 2% to 3% more.

He's gone from about 6% up in independence to either dead even or losing them.

And then he's got to get...

half a million people to come out to vote who would vote for him, but just don't vote.

And he can win, but he's not going to get the independence when he does that.

Yeah, by Dom.

I think he called her a bitch also.

Yeah, he called

Joe.

He got into a little thing with Joy Behar.

I mean,

I've been attacked a lot in my life, but the total attacks on me are like one hundredth of 1% of what he suffers every day.

So I understand that.

And he has a right to push back.

She's called him a perpetrator,

and I think a predator, too.

So I understand that, but I'm not talking about what he

can do or can't do.

I'm talking about what he should do.

And it's not just me, it's everybody is telling him that it's not about Donald Trump, it's not about his presidency, it's about stopping what will be a socialist government if they win the Senate and the White House and the House.

It's no doubt about it.

She's given lectures about the difference between equality and equity.

That's mandated equalness or sameness on the back end.

She's talked about a wealth tax, she's talked about an estate tax, talked about increasing taxes, she's talked about one-payer health, she's talked about making people turn in their particular types of guns, and yet she can't even tell you what the difference between a semi-automatic weapon is and an automatic weapon.

It's going to be really strange if everybody doesn't get together.

So, my advice to Donald Trump, he's not listening, but I would just say

85 days, just stop the invective and go after her record.

If you want to go after her, then say,

Well,

you told us the open border was good.

Joe Biden said, Come on over when I'm elected.

You were the border czar.

I didn't call you border czar.

All your friends called you border czar.

Lawrence Holt,

what's his name?

Holt,

the is it CBS or NBC?

He interviewed us.

NBC.

Yeah, and

she said, have you been to the border?

Yes.

No, you haven't been to the border.

Well, I haven't been to Europe either.

So this was their policy.

So all Trump has to say is, this was your policy.

You got what you wanted.

You got your 10 million illegal aliens.

You destroyed the border.

So why are you running commercials that if you're elected, you're going to close the border?

Are you going to build the wall?

Are you going to do it now?

Why?

Why, why, why?

Why not do that right now?

You've got six months.

You're not out of office.

This is so strange.

You know, there's so many things strange about them hiding from the public and saying that, well, in August, I'm going to have one press conference.

Well, that'll be the first one from June, July, and August.

And

this is the party that says democracy dies in darkness.

But what I don't get is,

why don't they own these and say, this is what we wanted to do?

We wanted to inflate the economy so more people had cash.

We wanted to get out of Afghanistan for the 20th anniversary of 9-11, and we did it.

We're proud.

Or, you know, we didn't want to cause a war with China, so we let their balloon go across.

And it's time to tell Israel that we're not going to back it anymore.

That's what we're doing.

We're reaching out to Hamas, and it's a new strategy.

Get with it.

But they don't.

It's like all the things we're doing, nobody likes.

So for 90 days in the election, we're going to fake it like we don't like what we like.

And then as soon as we get elected, we're going to flop back.

Right.

And can't the people see that, what they're doing?

It's obvious.

And it's

so all Trump has to say is, you got your wish.

So what's wrong with your wish?

Tell everybody why you're flipping to my side.

Why don't you stay with your side?

And that's very easy to explain.

But when he says she's dumb, what does that tell you?

It tells you that Donald Trump thinks he's dumb.

That's it.

But when he explains

why she is disowning in detail each one of her positions, she no longer believes, I guess, that men should participate in female sports.

She never, I don't think she believes she's kind of hedged that you can take a, I don't like to use the word fetus, a baby out of the birth canal and kill it.

I don't think she's talking anymore about printing more money.

So why not ask her?

Why not explain, you know, I had an idea, you had an idea.

I put my idea in for four years, you put your idea in.

And then the next thing he can say is, excuse me, who is president right now?

He's in the bunker.

You're the vice president.

You're running the country.

He's not.

He's never out there.

He's sick or what something.

So if you want to stop inflation and go after corporations, you said that inflation is the cause.

And that was crazy, by the way, that corporations are greedy.

Then do it right now.

Introduce legislation to stop these greedy corporations.

And if you say that all of a sudden you're against fracking, well, open some new lands up right now as vice president.

Joe doesn't know what's going on.

Just go get in the White House and say, we're going to open a bunch of lands.

We want more fracking, more horizontal.

But she doesn't do that.

And she gets away with it because she gets in her little group cadre of advisors.

And

what's ABC doing?

Is PBS on board?

In PR2?

Good, good.

So they're not going to ask me anything this week.

No.

What's ABC money?

How about the New York Times?

You've talked to them.

I say that because we had the Podesta Trobe.

Remember that?

And all these marquee

reporters were writing to the Hillary

campaign and they were saying things, I'm just a, I'm embarrassed myself.

I'm just a hack, but I want to know how I should write this story for

Hillary.

And it was all exposed.

That's what they do.

They've been having that whole journal, that journalist.

Remember that?

Yeah.

That should have disqualified every one of them.

But my point is

on day 85 or whatever we are until November 5th of 2024, Donald Trump's got to stop the colorless adjectives.

I'm not, I don't mind mixing it up.

She calls him as many mean things as he does, but he has an advantage to be specific.

Specific.

If he thinks she's dumb, tell us why she's dumb.

Why does he instead of said dumb?

She's hypocritical.

And here's why that.

And you know who's doing a good job is J.D.

Vance.

He really is.

He's going over to the pool.

He's putting him on the spot.

And it's starting to have an effect because these

The thing about the media is they want to tag along and they want to be patted on the head like a little beagle when she's elected.

And they're all intermarried.

You know, half the reporters' spouses work for whatever left-wing administration is in power.

But

if you keep hammering that they're hacks and toadies,

because they won't ask her a question, sometime at some point, they'll be embarrassed and then they're going to have to ask her questions.

They won't be good questions, but they'll be questions.

I just don't believe for the next 20 days, 21 days, she's going to get away without talking to a journalist.

Right.

We'll see.

Yeah.

Victor, I couldn't agree with you more.

And the deal here is to

is to sell something.

Donald Trump has to sell to the voter.

And

it's about the voter.

You're selling.

any product.

It's about the customer.

It's not about you, the salesman.

If you're a philanthropist or you're someone who's trying to raise money, it's about the the donor.

It's not about you.

And the people sitting there listening or watching these rallies, they're the ones that

have spent

20% less money to spend than they did a few years ago.

That's what's killing them.

Yeah.

They would be waiting.

Remind them of that.

It's one thing.

It's this hyperinflation.

Yeah.

Every time I go anywhere, it's just, I can't believe the prices on food.

I can't believe any of it.

Yeah.

And then I look at cost of living increases where I work.

Not that I need the money that much because I don't spend anything.

I'm an old man out on the farm, but

my God,

it doesn't keep up with the prices.

Just give you an example of what's going on.

I have a small place in the Sierra.

Okay.

I

built it in 2006.

In the next

18 years, Jack, it has suffered snow damage.

I had a gable knocked off.

I had the roof almost collapse.

I had a tree come over and come on the garage.

I had ice that

record two year ago,

it looked like an igloo.

You couldn't see the house.

And when it melted, it froze all this masonry wood and it just popped off.

I mean, it just took, it stripped all the rocks.

So I went and put all the rocks back with special adhesive.

One of them fell on my head and knocked me out.

I was so stupid, I took my hard hat off.

It was about nine feet tall.

I had to do it.

You're indestructible.

You're indestructible.

So anyway, my point is this.

I never filed a claim.

There was a hydrant across the street.

There was a

grade two.

It's a really wonderful group of volunteer firemen, but now they've got top-notch equipment.

We all give extra money to it.

And it's only about 150 yards from my place.

So it was the ideal place.

And then when I built it, I called an an insurance company.

I said, What would be, oh, we'd like to have fireproof siding.

The cedar siding or redwood looks good, but would you make it cement, you know, and pulp?

It looks like siding, but it's actually made of wood, pulp, and cement.

Then I made no wood decks, trekk decks, and then I put this big fire-retardant, heavy-duty composition roof.

Okay.

And

in 2000, I guess that fire was 21,

the Aspen fire, it burned,

it destroyed 80 homes at Huntington Lake.

It came almost within 700, 800 yards of our house.

And there were little hot spots on the roof.

And I put a new roof on.

I never filed a claim.

I didn't say that there were burning embers that were flying up on the roof and melting.

And when it was all over, I walked up.

And every time I walked on this roof, which was about 18 years old, had another 10 years,

a shingle would come out under my foot because it just had lost the adhesive.

So I stripped it all off, and then I put a three-quarter-inch fireproof insulating underneath the roof, which was very expensive.

Then I got this great roofer.

Integrity roofing is wonderful.

I've known him, Chad, and he did a wonderful job.

Okay, I did all, and I did not file one claim.

I kept saying, man, I've spent about $100,000 the last 15 years in upkeep, but I'm not going to file a claim.

And now they will, I heard people, you know, yanking the insurance, but they won't yank the insurance because there's no trees around anywhere.

They burned the worst fire in the 150-year history

of that lake, the Big Creek project, not quite 150, more like 120.

And it didn't burn.

And now there's no fuel.

And all the houses that survived will survive anything now because of the natural terrain that the fire couldn't get to.

Right.

And after all that was over, they dropped my insurance.

And they wrote me a letter and said, We're getting out of the insurance business.

So then I went around.

I caught, no, we don't offer insurance.

No, we don't do California insurance anymore.

No, we don't want to do anything in the foothills or the mountains.

We're getting out of California.

That was what I heard.

So I go to the fair plan.

That's the state-run insurance of last resort.

Right.

And I talk to people.

I know, hey, Victor, I don't get any insurance.

I don't have insurance.

I cannot afford it.

So I was paying $2,700 a year.

That was pretty good for $1.3 million in coverage and $1,000 deductible.

It went up to $7,500.

It tripled.

The coverage went from $1.5 million down to less than a million.

And the deductible jack went from 1,000 to 15,000.

And it's going to go up and up and up.

And so

my point is, how can anybody afford that?

And I mentioned on a podcast,

I bought this

Ram pickup, and it was extra money for a diesel engine.

Two years later, when I got another truck to replace that defective engine, and you know how much it was?

$20,000 more.

About $18,000.

And my point is, and as I said in a podcast, and we gave, I think, $70,000 of them to the Taliban brand new trucks, but that's another issue.

So, how can anybody afford that?

How can they do it?

They can't.

They can't buy a new truck.

They can't afford to get insurance.

People,

27%

of PGE and Southern California power

consumers in California have not paid their bill and will not pay their bill.

And you cannot cut their power off.

And they're not paying their bill because it's up to 30 cents a kilowatt at certain times.

And

what is the plan?

Do they just keep, the left just think they're going to keep making these green mandates?

Or they're going to keep going after the timber companies so that you put them out of business so they won't clean the forest?

Are they going to keep making all these rules that you can't really go after insurance fraud, or if somebody and they don't prosecute insurance, whatever it is,

the system reacts to that and they just don't play anymore.

And the prices are it's so this state is becoming an uninsured state because the insurance companies say the state of California puts so many mandates on this place.

And if you go into court, you're going to get sued and the liberal judiciary is weaponized against you.

And three,

under DEI,

if anybody who

fakes a car accident or does this or burns, they're not going to prosecute them.

And more importantly, you know, in Los Angeles County, half of all the

car accidents, at least until recently, were

hit and run.

Half.

Right.

So the insurance company says, I can't afford when these people are uninsured or they're illegal.

They're just hitting people and they're running.

Then we have to pay these one-sided where we can't go after the culprit.

So you put it all together and the system collapses.

And that's what's happening in California.

And how anybody could vote for any of these people, whatever your ideology

doesn't make sense.

This was a long rant to try to remind Donald Trump that he has commitments, not to MAGA people alone, but to about 55% of the country who says, we can't take this anymore.

And for better or worse, you're our salvation and your election because you, for all of your

eccentricities, you will pass.

We've seen it happen.

You will correct this.

So do not call people dumb or stupid when that's going to hurt this agenda.

And that's where it's as simple as that.

You know, and Victor,

I noted

from the Daily Mail an article about Harris's tax plan, what it would mean for

a married person filing jointly under the age of 65, making $75,000 with two children living in Arizona would lose $2,828 every year under a Harris administration, according to an example input by the DailyMail.com.

That's on top of what we just talked about, the massive inflation losses already.

It is.

You know what?

She's talked about an estate tax.

We have an inheritance, but she's talking about, and some states have inheritance taxes, but she's talking about

getting rid of the Trump inheritance exemption of $11, I think, or $12 million.

And we know what it was before, it was $750,000.

So my point is, if you go from Berkeley to

La Jolla and within 40 miles and you see a 1,200 square foot bungalow, they're going to be between $800,000 and $2 million.

And

no one can afford.

So if that family dies, the child who inherits it is going to have to pay a whopping inheritance tax on that home.

if she gets elected.

And that's going to go across.

And they're going to have to do it because we we have a $1.3 trillion debt service payment every year.

It's unsustainable.

And then, when they ask her what she's going to do about inflation, it was just incredible.

She says, Well, I'm going to get these corporations and I'm going to go after them.

And

so, my question is:

so, let me get this straight, Camela.

In your genius, you're saying that in

2017, 18, before COVID, when the inflation rate was 1.82,

and during COVID, it was 1.6, and when he left office, it was 1.9,

and all those different iterations of the economy, these corporations were very noble, and they said to themselves, we're noble corporations, and one of our duties is not to overcharge people.

But as soon as Joe Biden came in, they said, we're going to charge 9% inflation now.

That's what we're going to do because we're evil corporations.

That's what she's telling us.

No, no, they just react.

They can react badly or well, but they react to a perception and a reality.

And the reality is they warned you that you had a supply chain problem, that people had not

gotten over COVID disruptions, and there was pent up demand, and there was cash floating from $7 trillion

of COVID money.

And they said, please, please, please, they, Larry Summers in particular, please, please, please do not point gas on this fire.

Everybody's coming out of their house and apartments.

They want to eat out.

They can't buy a car.

They can't buy anything because they're not in the stores.

And you know what?

They have cash and they're hungry to buy.

So don't give them funny money.

And she did, and he did.

And we had 9% inflation on top of 7%, and then 6%, and 4%,

and the rest is history.

And now she says it was all because of the corporations, and she's going to stop that.

Well, why doesn't she just go to Delaware?

She said, Joe, let me think now.

We have August 1, September 2, October 3, November 4, December 5, and up till January January 20th of next year, 6.

Joe, we have almost six months.

Let's stop inflation right now.

We can do it.

Let's just go after the corporations and start slapping them around so they can stop this inflation.

That's how she thinks.

It's like a child.

Well, Victor,

we have one or two other things to get your thoughts on.

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colleges will be opening up soon.

And there's an important story related to Harvard that hopefully is

an example of things to come for

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Victor, here's a piece from National Review.

It's titled Harvard's Hypocritical Chickens Come Home to Roost.

I don't know that many of our listeners know about this yet.

On Tuesday, that would have been, I think,

the 6th or thereabouts of August.

A Massachusetts federal judge refused to dismiss a lawsuit alleging that Harvard University had been deliberately indifferent to anti-Semitic harassment on campus and had breached its contract with Jewish students by failing to enforce its disciplinary policies against their harassers.

The judge in Kestenbaum v.

Harvard held that the plaintiffs had plausibly alleged that Harvard had stood by as Jewish students were subjected to, quote, severe, pervasive, and objectively offensive harassment, end quote had refused to quote even-handedly administer its policies end quote and has ultimately quote failed its Jewish students end quote the court ruled in other words that Harvard's hypocrisy may be unlawful one other thing about in this piece Victor and and we I think we all of us generally think now that this madness really is a result or actions or madness on campus from October 7th on.

But so much of this crap was happening, has been happening for a long time, Victor, and predates

the October 7th attack on Israel, which unleashed all these ideologues on campus.

They were doing stuff.

I was going to say a bad word.

They were doing stuff there already.

Anyway, Victor, Harvard's,

wow, got a kick in the Gil Jones.

Your thoughts?

Well, you remember that guy at Harvard?

I guess he was in the business school and he said, don't grab me.

And they were attacking him.

I think one of the people was in the law school review.

And then I remember the Cooper Union when they charged those Jews, those Jewish students, and they had to hide in the library.

Remember that?

That was right out of 1930s, Germany.

And then we had the MIT where they were told there were certain places they could not go on campus.

And then, as I mentioned before, for four months, I was told it was, was you could not camp out and destroy the access and the aesthetics of the Stanford so-called free speech mall area.

And there were this Hamas camp, oh Hamas, with people sleeping overnight.

And you would walk and they would write chalk on the thing and river to the sea and scream and yell.

And they were all upscale students, all upscale.

And

it was, you kept thinking something was going to happen, like, like, you broke the law.

And then they would give them a deadline.

And then finally,

when they were told to move, because graduate, they broke into

family day at Stanford with kids' family members came before graduation.

And then they broke in and trashed the president's office.

And then these historic sandstone Romanesque architecture with the columns, they're porous.

They went and just wrote these horrific slogans and threats and Hamas and all this stuff all over these sandstone

architecture, which you can't sandblast, obviously.

So you go by and a guy's there with little tweezers picking out each pick.

I thought to myself, well, if you're not going to expel them

and you're not going to send them back to the Middle East on canceled visas, can't you at least put them in jumpsuits with tweezers and have a little sign around them that said, I did this and I want to make it good and make them clean up what they did.

And it was really weird because, you know, the Jewish students were right next to them.

And it was a microcosm of the Middle East.

Jewish students had a table with missing place settings and they said, these are the hostages.

They had posters and of course those were torn down, torn down.

And

you could go over to the two different groups and talk, and I did.

And the Jewish students were polite.

And when they were told to do something, they did it, but not the other students.

So it was a microcosm of the Middle East.

And it wasn't new.

That's a good point you made.

A few, about a year and a half earlier, I was walking from my apartment to campus, and I see these strange

posters because Ben Shapiro was going to speak.

It says, Ben, be gone, and it has a picture of raid.

as if you're going to use an

insecticide to get rid of this jewish person and do they have any idea where organophosphates and organo organic chlorides come from they come from zycon b in germany that's what they're saying that just as our spiritual kindred nazis use gas and insecticide to kill jews we're going to spray this pest ben shapiro and they they didn't there was no there was nothing wrong with that they let them get away with it so yeah they're anti-semitic and they're anti-Semitic for a lot of reasons.

Because, under DEI, to take my campus, according to the campus's own online bragging about it, Jack, it's not you have to find it.

Just go on to Stanford incoming class of 2000,

what, 29 or whatever it is, starting in the fall of 2028, starting in the fall of 2024.

It says that there's 20% white students and 9% white males.

And

out of that, Jewish students

are not going to get in because out of that 20%,

you have to have athletes, you have to have the children of high-ranking dean and faculty, you have to have the people who give $10 million and more.

And there's not enough room for anybody.

So what I'm getting at is when you're letting in thousands of foreign students because they pay premium tuition enrollment board, no fellowships,

and then you're excluding Jewish students because you don't require the SAT, or at least you didn't until it's going to be revived apparently this year, and you brag in the San Jose Mercury that you rejected 60 to 70 percent of those who optionally took it and got perfect scores, then you're not going to have many of me.

And in fact, the Jewish population of student population of these Ivy League campuses has gone from 20 to 30 percent down to 10 to 15, if that.

So Basically, there's not very many Jewish students on campus, but there's a lot of students from the Middle East.

Is that the catalyst?

Or is it because in a brilliant

transmogrification of who these people are, Hamas are terrorists, they're fascists, they're Nazis.

They hijack governments, they take them, they throw people out windows who are their political points, their assassins, their killers.

And now

they're the other, the downtrodden people.

And democratic Israel, who is at peace, are white settlers and oppressors and imperialists.

And

that's another problem.

It's not just the numbers, but and then there's the larger geostrategic situation.

There's 500 million Islamic people and there's about 11 million Jews in that area of the world.

And they have most of the oil and they have most of the money in overseas finance, Saudi, Kuwait, Emirates,

Dubai, Ghatar, et cetera.

And so a lot of throughout our society, people are making decisions based on their own self-interest, but not on the reality of morality, as they claim.

So I don't see it to get any better.

These lawsuits could be filed at MIT.

They could be filed at Cooper Union.

They could be filed at USC.

USC and UCLA were really bad.

They could be filed at Stanford.

And if they win at Harvard, they will be.

And I guess I don't think anything is going to change unless Trump is elected.

The Senate is Republican, the House is Republican, and then they're brave and they just don't talk.

And they said, we are going to stop this.

And we have a five-point plan to stop this.

Number one, if you have an endowment over $1 billion, you are not a nonpartisan entity, and we're going to tax it at 20%.

That's going to come right off the top.

Number two.

Number two, if you violate the Civil Rights Act and if you are using racial criteria and California, a state statute as well, we are going to withhold federal money.

Number three.

If you do not

protect the civil liberties and constitutional bill of rights of your students, the right to confront your witness, the right to have a hearing, the right to know your accuser, the right to free speech, you will not have federal money.

Number four,

Department of Education says if you violate the Cleric Act and you do not notify

students and people within a radius of your community about the crime rate and suspects who have been arrested for crimes and get descriptions of them, you will lose your federal money.

Number five, if you take money from foreign countries like China and you do not report the source of that as Stanford did not, and it was fine millions of dollars, then you're going to be fined.

And if they did that, I think they would fall in line.

And then, of course, it would be good within the educational community to just say some things, you know, we've lost public credibility.

So we're going to bring back the SAT because we don't think high schools can be trusted

to

guarantee us that they're straight A students or straight A students.

So that's why we had the SAT.

But now we can't trust ourselves either.

So when we graduate people with BAs from Stanford and Hillsdale, we can't guarantee who's being educated.

So we just say Stanford's BA is better than Hillsdale, but I think Hillsdale's are better.

So what we're going to do is have a national SAT exit test, kind of between the SAT and the GRE.

And you'll have to get a minimum score, maybe 500, 550, or you won't get your BA.

It's as simple as that.

And if you would do that, They wouldn't have all of these DEI courses.

They would be strapped for money.

They couldn't afford these

DEI tsardoms.

And you would see radical change.

You would.

And it would work.

And they would be terrified about it.

You know, Stanford had a professor.

He wasn't a professor, actually.

He was a lecturer.

And right after October 7th, he said to the Jewish students, put your stuff over here and move over there.

And now you're displaced.

How does it feel in my class?

And he did that.

And they temporarily suspended him.

And then there was a big cry.

I don't know what his fate is now, but there was petitions all around, get him back.

He's a hero.

And that's where we are.

And

most Jewish faculty, and they're in reduced numbers, don't speak out because they're afraid.

And most other faculty don't speak out because they'll be targeted.

And we've created a climate of fear with DEI.

So if you grade according to your own standards, which were established by the university, by their

admissions policy, people forget that.

The admissions policy of the university reflects the type of courses that are offered.

So if you're taking 1.8%,

2%, 3% at Stanford, Yale, Harvard of your applicants,

and

you boast that your average SAT, and I'm talking prior to George Floyd,

1990 to 2020,

and you're you're bragging about that,

your exclusivity,

then you're letting in a type of student that can take a type of course that will graduate with a type of knowledge that will excel and enhance your reputation.

So you're offering really rigorous courses.

But if you suddenly, in the space of a year, you trash the SAT and get rid of it, and you go into racial repertory admissions, so you're African American, you're Latino American,

you're Native American, regardless of what the individual cases are, exceed their demographics, and you have to, because you're sued over Asian students, and now you're starting to let them in commiserate with their abilities, then the only place you can go are white students.

And that's what they do.

And then you have to say, well, we have to adjust the courses for the types of policies the admissions embraced.

So we either have to inflate the grades or we have to water down the course or we have to get new courses.

And when we do that, we let these students out, and we're just starting to do that, then employers say, I don't think the Stanford BA means anything.

I hired somebody and the courses they took were a joke.

And so now we have a new president.

Now the SAT is coming back and we'll see what happens.

But I have a feeling unless you get rid of these DIE,

DEI kingdoms, I don't see any changes coming

because they'll just monitor like commissars.

Stalin got rid of the commissars in 1942 because they ruined the Red Army.

And he started to win after that.

But

we'll see.

It's a lot of money.

You know, I've said this before, real quick, Jack.

About every day, I'm interested in long COVID, so I have a set time, maybe 30 or 40 minutes, that I read,

I don't read blog, I read scientific papers about new treatments.

I'm just curious about it.

And it's amazing.

You read about the Thais, you read about the Argentine research, you read about the Brazilians, you read about Nigerians, you read about Dutch, and it's all about a double-blind study and this, this, this, and

creatin does this.

or Quercetin does this, or NAC does this, or NMN does this, and it's scientifically based empirically.

And you know what you read when you read the American reports?

This community is underserved.

This community is underserved.

This community, a new grant to give this community more attention, this community, this community, this community, this community.

That's all it is.

It's DEI.

And you're thinking, how many?

billions of dollars are we're spending to hire particular people by their race or gender or to have special programs in long COVID centers that are based on this when we just want to get somebody of any color to get in the lab and find out the cure for it, right?

Right.

And that's true of everything now.

Yeah.

If we continue

brain surgery, you know,

right.

If we continue down this pathway, we're going to be in big trouble.

I'll just finish by saying

there was a bright story in the Wall Street Journal about young kids, basically, who are very bright, mostly conservative, and they're worried about defense policy and munitions and appropriations of weaponry.

They think the United States is

in the thrall of Lockheed, Northrop, General Dynamics, Raytheon, these big-ticket $140 million jets, $1 billion

bombers, $15 billion carriers, and they're vulnerable, and they want to come up with

a new type of cheap drone in mass, kind of like World War II, we've talked about.

They want to build a lot of stuff and swarm systems, cheap.

And they're all down in L.A.

and they're creating a mini little industry of defense startup companies.

And there's a fascinating story in the Wall Street Journal about them.

That's something that's very encouraging that you have patriotic young people who are historically knowledgeable that we won World War II because we built 50,000 German tanks, each one of them not as good as the 1,600 tigers in theory, but in terms of maintenance and hours on the road for hours in this shop and ubiquity of them.

And it was a brilliant move to do that.

And that's the kind of thinking they're doing.

And I think I hope there's a revolution now against all of this entrenched leftism and status quo thinking.

I hope there is.

Yeah.

Well, anyway, I talked too long today.

No, no, Victor.

It's called the Victor Davis Hansen Show.

People want to hear what you have to say.

Oh, I have one.

I have a correction.

I had a wonderful reader who listens.

Yeah.

He said, Victor, Victor, Victor, you said

that Lieberman was the running mate.

of John Kerry.

You know it was John Edwards.

Yes, I know.

Two Americas.

I'm so sorry.

He was the running mate in 2000 of Al Gore.

I misspoke.

And that's right.

Yes.

But both of those tickets went down to defeat, although the Gore Lieberman won the popular vote.

Yeah, I knew Senator Lieberman a little bit.

I mean, he was close to National Review.

He was very close to Bill Buckley.

And actually, Bill Buckley

and a great friend of mine here in Milford, Tom Scott, who was a former state senator.

They were very much behind this buck pack, they called it, which was to get rid of Lowell Weicker, who was the reprehensible Republican senator from Connecticut.

And that kind of launched Lieberman's

end of his career,

he sort of,

in a prescient fashion, saw where the Democratic Party was going as far as pro-Hamas, pro-Iran, anti-Semitism, because he got more and more conservative and worried.

He lost his primary.

Yes.

And

I was walking in 2022

in the King Dover.

I took that tour to Israel.

I led those guys, 130 of them.

And we were, my wife and I were walking out of the King David and we saw Joe Lieberman walking down the street.

And he was, yeah, he was in Israel.

And

I think he, there was some criticism.

I think he had some Chinese.

He did.

His law firm was involved with China.

Yeah.

So, yeah, well,

perfect's the enemy of the good.

He was on the board of Gatstone Institute, which you spoke to.

I used to be on the board of that.

By the way, folks should check that out.

The very, very interesting articles they published there.

But all in all, the Joe Liebermans of the Democratic Party wouldn't not be welcome.

And you talked about this on our previous podcast, the Governor Shapiro of Pennsylvania, who I think was the,

I mean, half of me, I'm glad he wasn't picked to be Kamala Harris's vice presidential running mate, but

the reason is because he's Jewish.

You know, there's no, there's very little room left for him.

That's a good question.

Non-radical Jews.

So you're, let's say you're a big Hollywood producer or you're a Silicon Valley Titan investment hedge fund.

or you're a Wall Street guy and you're Jewish and you're somewhat observant.

I'm not saying you're fanatically observant.

Let's say that you are observant, or let's say you're not even, you're just disinterested in the religious part, but you identify as Jewish.

And let's say, in addition to that, you have some knowledge of Israel.

Maybe you haven't been there, but it's a lot closer to your interest than Sweden is to mine, although I'd like to, I've never been to Sweden.

I'd like to go there.

And I have no knowledge of Wales.

My grandfather was 100 whale whelsh so anyway my point is this

and you see what the democratic party is doing

with pandering to

these groups and and remember that kamala harris thought that because josh shapiro was jewish

and was pro-Israel that over

that was more important.

That overshadowed the reality that in terms of his abilities as a politician, his popularity in a

key swing state, his ability to get those 19 electoral votes.

She used emotion over reason, or you could argue she was pandering to the quarter million people in Michigan.

She thought Michigan, which had, I think, fewer, much fewer votes than does Pennsylvania.

But I guess she thought that psychologically it would enrage her base, whatever the reason was.

If all of this has happened and the Democratic Party says we can't pick not only the best vice presidential candidate, but the one that would do us the best because we're anti-Semitic, we meaning our party,

or he's intolerable to parts of our party.

What would you do?

Would you still give...

If you're Jeffrey Katzenberg or somebody like that, would you still pour millions of dollars in?

Ben Stiller, the actor, I saw him cut an ad the other day.

You know, he said every Jewish person wants to be black or something.

It was crazy.

I mean, no person of a particular ethnic background says that he wishes he was of the other.

You're just not because you think one is better than the other, just that's who you are.

That's your identity.

I don't think any black person says, I wish I was white or black says, I wish I was or Asian.

It's irrelevant.

But the point I'm making is, why do they keep raising money for this ticket if they have some consideration for the way that Jews are being treated by the left?

Because they're left wing,

if you go back to the Jewish diaspora and the persecution in Eastern Europe and the Tsar.

and maybe even persecution when Jews arrived here in the 19th century, it tended to be more a right-wing persecution than a left-wing.

In other words, they were autocratic governments.

And in some cases, they were Christian.

But that's ancient history.

But my point is that Jews became more liberal because they reacted to anti-Semitism that they correctly felt was overwhelmingly coming from right-wing 19th century forces.

Now it's just the opposite.

The anti-Semitism is coming from left-wing, pro-terrorist forces.

And wouldn't they make a correction?

It doesn't make any sense.

Or maybe they are and they don't want to talk about it.

But if I were Jewish and I had disposable funds to give to candidates, why would I give to the party of Ilian Omar or AOC?

I wouldn't do it.

It would just, it would be like a suicide pact.

And Kamala Harris the other day is,

she says, we're going to talk about this.

She's talking about a forced ceasefire, and she's going to really consider an arms cessation or embargo to Israel.

You wait.

Something's going to happen.

And because Iran knows they have to reply, and they don't want to have a burned-out Beirut.

I don't know what they're going to do, but they're going to reply, and they know that there's no president.

So if they were to hit Anthony Blinken and

Jake Sullivan would do what, Jaffrey?

Call up the Obamas.

What do we do, Barack and Michelle?

Tell us.

Well, you got to talk to Susan Rice.

Okay.

What do we do, Susan?

Well,

maybe you can talk to Blinken.

Well,

he doesn't know who's in charge.

Well, talk to Kamala.

Well, she's out on a campaign trail.

Well, where in the hell is Joe Biden?

He's in his Delaware basement.

Okay.

Well, I don't think we should do anything then.

Tell him to stand down.

That's where we are right now.

It's either Edith Wilson-Jill Biden running the country,

or it's

Camilla Harris's campaign team,

or it's the Obama third term, but it's not Joe Biden.

Have they talked about him going to the Democrat convention?

Yes.

Yeah.

Is he going to do it?

They're going to to humiliate him.

They're going to make him give one of the non-primetime early speeches.

Oh, gosh.

But they can't give him prime time because if he gets in front of the world and he gives a speech like he did the debate, it's only a reminder how they lied to us seriously for years.

So they're going to put him out there and Joe Biden's going to say,

What?

Wait a minute.

All you people on the stage said that he was fit as a fiddle.

Jean-Pierre.

And Camilla, you said you just talked to him and he was completely fine.

Look at him.

The other day they said, Do you think Donald Trump would?

I mean, they gave him a little softball.

It's like a t-ball question.

Swing at the t-ball, Joe.

Joe, do you think that if Donald Trump

will accept the

verdict of the 2024 election?

Not if he wins.

He said that.

Oh, not if he wins.

not not if he loses that that's

you can't put him out god help us god help us you cannot put him out so if they say to joe

iran is going we've got information they're going to send not 320 but 740 projectiles at the israeli what do we do

um

well

who's out there

what are projectiles what are missiles where where's israel That's where he is.

And

it's so funny.

They have an existential decision now, Jack.

And this is the last thing I'll say because I know people are getting tired.

But

do you or do you not get rid of Joe Biden now?

Yeah.

You go back in your word and say, Joe, if you pull out as our nominee, you get to be president.

We won't get the cabinet to vote

25th Amendment on you and then bring it to the congress which probably could with democrats and republicans remove you and humiliate you no one's ever happened that that was the deal they made but now they go back to him and say joe

you are embarrassing us every day and it's hurting the ticket and camela's got to take over and then they're thinking in their little

left shoulder devil right shoulder

angel the devil says

this is really good camela gets to be an incumbent She gets a couple of months of incumbency.

That'll really help her.

And then the right side said,

oh, yes.

You mean you want to put Camilla out every day in front of the world as president of the United States?

And you think that's going to help you?

That's going to make everybody nostalgic for Joe Biden, you idiot.

So they have a dilemma what to do because he is, something's wrong with him.

He's not around.

He can't talk.

I don't know where he is.

Nobody does.

Right.

Anyway.

Pray for America, folks.

Well, Victor, you've been great today as ever.

I know there was a topic or two we couldn't get to, but we'll try to get to it on the next episode.

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Mr.

Hansen, your interview with Sabin Howard was so enlightening.

Mr.

Howard is a remarkable man, and you are correct.

Everybody in the country should know about his remarkable talents.

Truly are a Renaissance man.

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Thanks, Jojo.

No, that was an interview Victor did about a month or six weeks ago.

As for me, Jack Fowler, I write.

And you know, they just had a nice, was it in the Wall Street Journal, picture of the beginning of the placement of his Parthenon-like frieze sculptures in place in Washington.

Yeah.

They're going down there too.

They're just going to cover it.

Yeah, it's going to be.

It reminds me so much.

We should call him the American Phidias because Phidias was the one who was the architect, not just of the Chris Elphantine statue inside the Parthenon, but he was the overall, as Plutarch says, the overall

sculptor and architect of the Parthenon friezes.

And he probably sculpted some.

And this is kind of what Sabine

Tebin

Howe.

Sabin, Sabin.

Sabin, yes.

Yeah.

Sabin Howard.

That's what he's done.

He's not only the sculptor, but

he's the designer and he's the engineer and the architect of the whole thing.

Yeah.

He's a remarkable guy.

I'm going down there September 13th in D.C.

to cover the

installation of the unveiling.

That would be great.

I wish I could come.

I'm going to be, I think, in Utah.

I'll tell you about it.

I'm going to take video.

I'm actually going to write a piece for AMAC magazine on it.

And I met Sabin.

He is, he's just a cool, cool dude and a remarkable man.

And so glad lots of folks liked your discussion with him.

It was really, really quite wonderful.

As for me, by the way, civil thoughts, go there, civilthoughts.com, sign up for the free weekly email newsletter I send out every week with 14 recommended readings.

Victor, you've been terrific.

Folks, thanks so much for listening and hanging in there with us.

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