Hume's Enlightenment v. Modern Gaslighting and Surveilling

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This is our weekend edition where we do something cultural in the second segment.

But we've got lots of news stories and so much news out about the Harris Waltz campaign.

And so we'll probably come back to some of those things.

But there are stories about what's going on in Israel, too.

So we'll start there.

Stay with us, and we'll be right back.

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So, Victor, there's been a lot going on this week, and I wanted to start with Israel because the United States has issued a request, I guess, to both Israel and Iran that they do not escalate in their conflict.

But then again,

there's a new head of Hamas by the name of Sinwar, and Israel has vowed, of course, and as it should, to take him out.

So, I was wondering your thoughts on the current events in Israel.

Yeah, I don't understand that.

The United States is now warning both sides as if they're the moral equivalents of each other.

I don't think that Israel on periodic occasions says we want to kill the Islamic devils and wipe out Iranian culture.

that bastard nation.

So there's no symmetry there.

So the United States, in some part, is responsible for this entire imboglio because we allowed distance to be perceived between us and Israel.

All this administration had to do was come in and say to themselves,

we don't like Donald Trump, we're going to trash him, but we're going to take credit for what he did.

We'll just assume it's ours because it worked.

So the Houthis are a terrorist organization.

We're not going to give any more money to Hamas.

They're a terrorist organization.

We're going going to continue the oil embargo against Iran.

We're starving them out of oil, and they're behaving.

We're not going to go back into the Iran deal.

And whether we like

the Netanyahu government that may come back in, et cetera, we're not going to interfere in the internal affairs of the Israeli government.

That's all they had to do.

They couldn't do that because they have this Islamist base now.

The student radicals, the people in Michigan, to a lesser extent Minnesota, that are vote Islamic.

So, what did they do?

They undid every single one.

They gave Iran a shot of a multi-billion,

I hope I didn't say a hundred million dollar boycott, should be a hundred billion.

They gave them infusions of billions of dollars.

They signaled

Hamas and the Palestinian Authority, to a lesser extent Iran,

excuse me, Egypt, Jordan, but also Hezbollah and Iran, that

if you started to press Israel and stirred up violence again, the United States would be indifferent to it, or would at least engage in both sides-ism.

It's the Earth.

And that gave a green light.

And I don't think Israel comprehended the ramifications of the Biden-Harris new administration.

Because they were complacent as well.

They were very prosperous.

They had all this natural gas development.

They had these wonderful desalinization plants.

They were on the acne of technology.

They had a

higher per capita income than the EU.

And they felt that maybe, just maybe, just maybe, Hamas and these radical killers would look at them and say, I'm envy of them.

What are they doing right?

Maybe I can go into Israel and work during the day and learn how to farm or something.

It was just absurd.

So now, after the murder, they reply.

And to the degree they replied in Gaza, to the degree there will be or will not be another war depends on one thing,

the perception of Israeli deterrence and the degree to which the United States watches its back, vis-a-vis the major power, Iran, that's sponsoring the violence.

If people in Shia quarters of Beirut look at Gaza and say, I do not want that to happen, we did it once before in 2006.

We started a war by kidnapping soldiers, and we ended up with 20 years of rubble.

And if the Houthis said we had all of these sophisticated crane and cargo facilities that was given to us by international aid, and then we pressed it, we kept firing, fire, and they destroyed them, and we have no mechanism to unload ships now.

And if Hamas says

we had 400 miles of tunnels, we had munitions factories, we had depots,

we had a whole subterranean city, and now we don't.

And if Iran Iran thinks,

if I push it and get the

Hezbollah terrorists or the Houthis back in action, the United States may not like it.

And if people

in the radical terrorist network say, Israel killed people in Damascus,

they killed them in Beirut, they killed them in Tehran, even Mossad couldn't pull that off unless they had help from the inside.

I mean, now we know the story they did in all three cases.

And that means there's a lot of dissatisfaction at the highest echelon of the terrorist cadres.

So all the United States has to do to stop the war is not say, please don't do this and reply to this Israel.

They should say privately to the Israelis, we support you because you are a constitutional liberal democracy.

constitutional state and these people are terrorists.

And to the degree that you need help, we will deter Iran.

And we should tell Iran, everybody doesn't like you in the world.

You're the source of all the terrorism.

If Israel hits your nuclear facilities, or you hit another American boat, or take hostages, or you kill more Americans, like your appendages did in Gaza,

here's a list what we're going to do.

We're going to take out your...

reactors, we're going to take out your power grid, we're going to take out your...

We don't want to, so don't do it, but we will do it.

And there would be peace peace everybody knows it yeah

well what do you think about tulsi gabbard um as

and she says she has knowledge um more than just hearsay that she is on a um tsa watch list called quiet skies

and they they

trail people that they think are suspicious and she's one of those people.

Have you heard of that?

Yeah, I have.

She gets unduly searched at airports, both here and abroad.

She feels she's tailed.

Whistleblowers within government these government uh security agencies have told her, federal marshals.

So what what's going on?

What did she do?

What did she say to Ernest?

All I can think of is, and she might have postulated that herself, I think, she was very critical of Ukraine.

And in this paranoid government, if you suggest anything other than Ukrainians are noble American revolutionaries and Putin is Hitlerian, then you're,

you know, you should follow your

you should follow this person.

They're suspect, they're treasonous.

And they're trying to destroy her because

if they're following her and they know where she is, that means they have access to some of her communications to predict where she's going.

And that creates kind of a paranoia on the part of a person.

You know, people are going after you.

And

these

there.

I have a special affinity for people who

are very, very talented, outspoken, courageous, and either the administrative state, the government, or the private bureaucracies try to destroy.

Just think of all the people they go after.

They completely try to destroy Scott Atlas for just simply saying that natural immunity at some point would kick in and be as efficient, as effective as vaccines and concentrate your

resources on the elderly and not the young.

Don't shut down the schools and the economic damage would cause more death, probably.

That was an opinion that had justified reason to believe it.

And they tried to destroy him.

We know that from what they said about him.

Look at Michael Flynn.

He's another example.

What did he do to...

He was one of the most talented generals in the intelligence field in Iraq and our overseas warrant.

He was what?

He got on the wrong side of Obama.

And then as soon as he was

nominated to be National Security Advisor

in 2016, then what did they do?

The FBI, Peter Stroke, they go after him to entrap him and see if they can ask him a bunch of questions without an attorney.

And remember, Comey was like, oh, you know, really, you know, when we go in to question an administrative figure,

they're at least smart enough to get lawyers and say no to us.

But these guys, the Trump guy, we just walked in and got old Michael Flynn.

Didn't even know what happened.

And even Peter Strzok, as biased as he is, wrote in his initial report that Flynn was

not culpable of anything.

And they tried to get him on the Logan Act that he was in the interim.

He was trying to talk to the Russians and apparently said he didn't remember.

It was just all completely bogus and they destroyed him.

And, you know, I was,

they, uh,

it's, it's like all those people in the steel dossier, Papadopoulos, what did he ever do?

Carter Page, what did he ever do?

These people are like organic monsters that just grab people and chew them up and absorb them and then they go on and know there's no consequence.

I was thinking, all of these very talented people in the priority, I know that I have dwelled on Max Nikios, but if you were empirical, you could see no better, no more successful president in USC's recent history.

As far as bringing talent in,

bringing efficacy and efficiency to the governance of building and earning enormous fundraising and donors for this project, this ideal, kind of like a Parthenon at USC.

And then Me Too comes along and they accuse him of not rushing to judgment and going after a gynecologist who may or may not have done something wrong, but was never tried, never indicted, never tried.

Completely, he died without any culpability, and they destroyed this presidency.

For what?

It's just that it's kind of like the say-them wish trials.

We have this pack, and they get wound up, and then they just go in a frenzy, and it takes a lot of people to stand up to them.

And once they destroy these people, people don't want to stand up to them.

And I've had that experience a couple of times in my life, once at Stanford and once at Cal State.

And,

you know, you don't have any friends when that happens.

And the only way you get out of it is fight it.

And then either become martyred and people say, well, at least he fought it, or that you start to win and they want to join the winning side.

So I have a lot of empathy for Tulsi.

and utter contempt for these people that do it.

And remember, these are judged jury and executioner federal officials.

They have the whole federal budget behind them.

So when all these left-wing writers say, Donald Trump, if he's elected, we got to keep him out of that White House, he's planning to fire 18,000.

Yeah, he is.

He wants to get a group in there that doesn't harass people and use the powers of the federal government as if they're monarchs or earls.

And so more power to him.

Yeah, absolutely.

Well, before we go to break,

I was wondering what you thought of Trump has finally got his debate agreed to, the old one, on September 10th with ABC, and he is trying to ask for two more.

What do you think about that?

Do you think he's going to A, well, B, get two more?

And

the debate just going into

she's going to lose, he's going to win.

We've said that in two podcasts when she

offered one debate, and it had to be by her rules.

And she said, well, you agreed under Biden.

But

I said at the time, you should be magnanimous.

You get your ABC debate, and I will have my Fox debate according to my rules.

And that's even Stephen.

I think that may happen.

But there's some things he should keep in mind.

She's not going to debate.

unless he forces her to debate.

And he has only one means to force her to debate.

And that's to be three to five points in the polls, where she thinks she has to come out of her cocoon

and run the risk that after, as I said, 90 seconds, she enters the red zone of incoherence and cackling.

And therefore, it's better to be called a coward and a recluse and secluded than to demonstrate why you are that.

So he's got to go today in the CNNBC poll, he was two points up.

Yeah.

And so there's, I think if you look at the real clear politics average today this week

she they're just about 47 or 46 and he's she's maybe 0.3 ahead and then in the swing states he's one point something ahead that is pretty amazing given the media hysteria

and the money that flowed in after they decapitated the Biden candidacy and they annoyed her, coronated her

and all that enthusiasm.

The king is dead.

Long live the king.

Doesn't she have some very close friend at the head of the top of ABC or in the Disney corporation that was

all of them?

All of them.

Every one of them.

They're all connected with the media.

All of them.

I mean, remember Anita Dunn?

She was the one that said one of her heroes was Mao, and she was the communication director for Obama.

Then she went to Biden.

She's already working for Harris.

Harris is actually getting a lot of Biden people that are jumping ship because he's going down like the Titanic and they want to get into a new cruise liner.

And the Obamas are really amplifying and entrenching their influence.

And they've had a third term and they envision Harris as their fourth and maybe fifth term.

If that's true, a historian should write a book called The 20-Year Obama Regnum, if that happens, because that's what they're after.

And all the things that he

introduced to us,

and everybody said was crazy, from Obamacare to open borders to amnesty to the whole LGBTQ mania, they've all become institutionalized.

And the idea that he took the old Clintonian idea that the Democrats have a birthright to the big money and they were going to go, there was nothing dirty about raising money and using it for their own purposes, which they used to say.

Remember, that used to be the Bushes and the Koch brothers, the Koch brothers, the Koch brothers, big money, dirty money.

I think Jane Meyer wrote about hidden money.

There's no more hidden or big money than Silicon Valley, Wall Street, and Hollywood.

And that new generation came of age that are left-wing, and that was one of the legacies of the Obama.

You guys on the left, just bask in it.

Get it all you can.

Don't worry about it.

We have a moral veneer, and moral smugness that allows us to be as illiberal and conniving as we want.

That's what they're doing.

They're going to raise a lot of money.

So they're all connected.

Yeah.

She has all sorts of contacts.

Well, Victor, we're going to go to a break and then come back and talk about the head or the centerpiece of the Scottish Enlightenment, David Hume.

Stay with us and we'll be back.

We're back.

So, Victor, I'm interested to see.

I know that David Hume is not much talked about, even though he is really the central figure in the Scottish Enlightenment, which was the central Enlightenment

bastion of ideas that informed the American Revolution.

So, let us understand him a bit a little bit more.

Yeah, he died the, you know, he, I think he was born in 1711, and he died in 1776 of the Declaration of Independence year.

He was,

you know, the Scottish Enlightenment was considered realist, pragmatic, rationalist, and tried to explain human experience not just away from the realm of belief or faith, but also

sort of

human nature always

either bad or good.

They were trying to show how human nature functioned and how a society, a civil society, could use that rather than try to change it.

So in the case of the invisible hand of Adam Smith and the wealth of nations, he also wrote one on sympathy I read.

I couldn't finish it.

It was very hard to read.

It's a long book on it.

But he was trying to show that people in their

being basically selfish, but in their drive to create wealth for themselves and their friends, as long as the state was able to create methodologies where they didn't hurt other people, that should be encouraged because there was an invisible hand that had reason and logic about economic supply and demand, the sanctity of private property,

what causes inflation and deflation.

And as all these people try to create wealth, the society as a whole benefits.

And of course, that was always ridiculed by the left as trickle-down theory, but it was true.

And Hume, I got introduced to him when

I was farming, I was 26, 27, 28.

And they had a part-time job up at Cal State.

I would waited four years to do something to get some extra income.

So I was a part-time Latin teacher, and there was a professor of philosophy there, and he was writing a treatise.

He was taking the text of David Hume and doing a new edition.

I think it was a treatise on natural religion or one of the moral essays.

He wrote a lot of moral essays, and then he wrote a huge one million word volume history of England.

And this professor, I won't mention his name, he has friends still alive, no doubt.

I don't want to suggest that I'm inaccurate or too nice or too mean to him, but his manuscript had a lot of references to Latin and Greek words everywhere.

And he wanted to translate those rather than omit them.

And it was huge.

So he said to me, if you come over every Monday night and I'll give you a new batch of stuff.

And in those days there was no computer, so I had to cut and paste and glue on my little translations.

So I would go out and farm all day, drive a tractor.

It was during the fall harvest, so I had about 80 people picking grapes.

I was terracing ahead of them.

So

I remember, I got to get home, I got to make five acres of terraces so the pickers will have somewhere to lay the raisins.

And then I've got to go in there and read this treatise on natural religion.

But I got to, the point I'm making is I did this for him, and he became a great advocate of me being hired there as a permanent lecturer for my next year, and I liked him a great deal.

But the point I'm making is I got to learn about David Jung

and

all of these typewritten texts he was working on.

I mean, this professor, and most of them were never published.

I don't know what happened to him.

One was.

He must have had a thousand pages that I went through.

And so you have to read, when you're reading David Jung, who Latin was, he and Adam Smith and all those people, Samuel Johnson, they knew Latin better than today's professor, me just professors of Latin.

And when you read long paragraphs and then Greek interspicion, you have to have a close attention to the text.

And I just remember his argument,

his argumentations were sort of

ideas versus impressions.

And he was, I don't want to call him a a pragmatist, but he said empiricism and impressions trump ideas.

So you have all these ideas based on loose data, some

factual, some impression, and you just make these sweeping ideas, whether it's Marxism or democracy, but are they always based on human nature and to see how particular philosophies and doctrines actually work in the real world?

Actually work in the real world.

It had a profound

influence on me because I would say things like,

I had this idea that rather than taking a Massey 285 and going through the vineyard with a disc and then having to come back and springtooth and then having to come back and furrow, because I'd seen guys do it.

We'll just put a roller on the back of the disc as a springtooth and then we'll weld two little listers as furrows.

And, you know, if the tractor tractor can pull it, you'll go through, and in one swipe, you will disc, roll, and furrow, and you'll save

two-thirds of the diesel fuel.

But that was just an example of an idea, and then you go out and try to do it.

You notice that when you lift the hydraulic lift, the front end starts to come out, so then you've got to get more weights.

And then you look at the

RPMs that you have to do to pull that weight and the torque, and then you look at the heat gauge, and when you can do it, and you think there was a reason why people didn't do this.

And so it's what he was trying to say is all these ideas are dangerous unless they accumulate from actual experience.

And that has to be,

I think he used the word impression, the impressions you get from living.

He's kind of atheist, I guess atheist or agnostic.

And

he wrote a lot of treatises on miracles.

And

I remember there was a treatise I was working on, and it was sort of funny.

It's like,

well, there's not, the miracles can't be true because there's so many different religions.

There's Buddhism and Hinduism and Islam.

And if all their miracles were true, who gets to get,

who gets, which religion gets to have the true ones and which ones are the fake?

And then he says,

if they happen all the time, well, maybe I'd like a miracle today.

But nobody ever really can see, or you can't create a miracle.

You always experience them or you see them at third hand.

So it's that overriding reason that characterizes all of his world.

He had a really great

treatise on the populousness of ancient nations, where he actually went back in antiquity and said to understand classical history you have to understand the demography, i.e.,

was Athens that much bigger than Sparta?

How big when we talk about bread and circus, how big was the Roman population?

So he actually used scientific principles.

And by that I mean he would scour the text of

a Livy or Cicero and try to find passages that were not intended, they're just matter of fact.

In other words, the work of what a classical scholar does, and try to draw out

a model to find out what the population was.

It was that scientific impulse of the Scottish Enlightenment.

The other article, you know, I read some Adam Smith, but the other one was one of the most, I think it's the most brilliant biography I've ever read, was Life of Samuel Johnson by James Boswell.

He died of syphilis.

All these guys were sick.

Samuel Johnson had a tick, you know, I think it was Tourette's syndrome.

And

David Hume got kind of huge.

He was, you know, and he had

all sorts of vitamin deficiencies.

And Adam Smith was very ill.

Because in those days they drank cheese.

I mean they ate cheese and drank pork and they had almost no vegetables or fruits as we do and they just sat there and when you look at Samuel Johnson's his English dictionary, his poetry or what Boswell said he was doing, there was no way in the world he could do anything else.

And these people were reading and writing Latin and Greek at not at 10, 3 and 4 and 5.

And they could read Latin and to a lesser extent Greek as they could English.

And plus they had the modern languages as well.

That level of erudition and intelligence will never be rivaled again.

I was in my neat, my most naive, stupid days when I got my first smartphone.

I thought, wow, I have the world's knowledge at my fingertips.

And now a person, if...

They wanted to emulate the knowledge of a Johnson or Yume, they can do it, but they could save all the time of having to stack books or find books, buy books.

It's going to be so efficient that we'll be even smarter.

And then I noticed after about two months when I was working on an early book, The Other Greeks,

that it was true I could find everything, but I was answering email.

And then all of a sudden, you know, I would walk outside and I'd see a red-tailed hawk.

I think, well, I'm going to search Wikipedia or whatever it was at the time to find out what a red-tailed, and your mind just was scattered.

It was, you didn't, and people today

today when you watch young people they bump into lampposts or snapchat and all of these different means of communication Facebook Twitter so it didn't really lead to a quantum leakman the ability to master knowledge yeah that's very interesting they do have all the knowledge at their fingertips but it's not um

it's disorganized and there are things that distract them like drugs like social media, and so reading what their friends have to write is nothing.

That's the hardest thing to teach.

I had all these first-generation students at California State University, and they really didn't, had no experience to education.

It was just

kind of an amorphous blob.

So I'd have to sit them down in a Humanities 1 class or something and say, look, it's finite.

Here is science.

Here's philosophy.

Here's mathematics.

Here's geology.

And the ancients divide it up in a finite way.

and we're going to go through all of these, and then you're going to be educated.

I would give an example of a Pythagorean

theorem or Corinthian column, or the plot of you can't go home again to show you literature, music, art.

It can be done, but you have to understand what knowledge is.

And the same thing about classical languages, you have to say it's very simple.

It's grammar, it's syntax, it's vocabulary, and it's the analysis of how to read it.

And we're going to do the grammar, we're going to do the vocabulary, we're going to do the syntax.

But once you were able to communicate to a student that when they just go home and go take history, you would say, look, there's ancient history, there's medieval history, there's Renaissance history, there's Enlightenment history, and there's the modern area.

That's the intellectual history, if you'd like.

Or we can do it by geography, European, African, Latin America.

We can do it by civilization.

But you have to have a method or methodology.

And once you do that,

then it's easy.

But when you're just walking around from here to there and you have no idea what you're doing, you become kind of anecdotal.

Kind of like Athenaeus, he wrote,

he was a Greek writer of the second century, Dipnosophisticae, and it's a table talk.

And it's sitting with a bunch of learned Greeks

in the mid-Roman Empire and writing down everything they talked about at dinner.

It's very similar in an eerie way to Hitler's table talk.

Everything Hitler wrote for about three years was written down.

Hitler talked about planes taking down skyscrapers in New York.

He really did.

He talked about vegetarianism being much better for the digestive system.

He talked about cigarettes and lung cancer before anybody made the connection.

He wouldn't allow anybody to smoke.

Well, it's that same kind of stuff.

And it's just crazy, but it's just scattered.

Yeah, we all have it in our heads.

Yeah, it's just listening to people, how they go from one topic to the other.

You're neither trying to tell me that a Scottish Enlightenment could never happen again or that we're all like Hitler.

I don't think you could ever have that level.

David Hume,

all of these people were poor.

I mean, they were worse than poor.

They were mid.

They had some little bit of gentry or titles in their family, but no means of income.

And

I think Samuel Johnson's father was a bookseller.

They all died young and they lived in miserable conditions, that weather and Scotland and the diet, a mold, everything about them.

And they were very courageous.

They just studied and read and talked.

And you can't think of any other...

Where else in the world in 1740 were parents taking their four-year-olds with no money and making sure they were able to read Latin and do mathematics?

Were they doing it in,

I don't know, frontier

Africa, South America, the Badlands of Russia?

No.

So it was a very unusual people, the Scots at that time, and British in general.

I think it was, David Humes

said that

I think that was in the

treatises on politics, that there was no more,

there was no freer place in the world than mid-18th century Britain and Scotland.

That was the only place in the world where freedom was truly valued and the person was protected, even though they almost put him in an ecclesiastical court for heresy.

But they didn't.

He was denied, they all had personal tragedies.

He should have been a professor at Edinburgh and they blackballed him because he was skeptical about religion.

Yeah.

Wow.

Well, Victor, let's go ahead and take a break and then come back.

And since there's so much on the campaigns, especially the Harris Waltz campaign, we'll do a little talk about that.

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So Victor, the Harris Waltz, they just kind of morph with everything, and the media goes with them.

The latest this week is that they're running a Vibes Joy campaign and that they are staying away from policy issues as best they can.

Is that true?

What was the name of that again?

I want everybody to hear it again.

The Vibes Joy campaign.

The Vibe.

Vibes, yeah.

That sounds like

Jean-Pierre's cheap fake little slogan.

Yeah, exactly.

So you have to envision, they're all sitting around the table at the new Waltz and Harris, and they're saying, hey,

they're calling us socialist.

Somebody says, oh, we are socialist.

I know we are, but it doesn't go over well.

And Tim, you were supposed to be the guy that had military credentials, and you could have kind of nullified the J.D.

Vance angle and appealed to the deplorables because you were a rural guy, right?

And he said, yeah, but I've said a couple of things and done, and he said, oh, what?

Well, when I looked at the red map of Minnesota and it was all red and yet the population was all in St.

Paul and Minneapolis, I told people publicly, don't worry about that red area.

It's just a bunch of rocks and cows.

So he wrote off 20% of the rural population, 80% of the vote.

And then I didn't really carry a weapon of war and I really wasn't deployed in Operation Enduring Freedom, and I never went to Afghanistan.

That's just a small little.

And so then they talk like this, and then Kamala, can you speak?

Well,

I did give 60 seconds on the tarmac, and I ended, as I said, the red zone.

And I start talking about the art of diplomacy is very impressive, and that's why the art of diplomacy and Joe Biden are so important.

And that's why we all think of diplomacy and Biden are the art of diplomacy.

That was well done.

Thank you, Kamala.

So they're thinking, well, what do we do?

Well, we're not going to have, we're only going to, we've already told them we're only going to have one news conference.

We've got to hide this because Biden did it in 2020 and it worked.

Stay in the basement, fake it like you're a moderate, get the big money and the attack dogs and the media to be surrogates and count on 70% of the people not voting on Election Day with less ballot integrity, and they're mostly Democrats that do that, and we'll win.

So then they said, yeah, but if we're not talking about the issues, we're not having impromptu press conferences, we're not having ex tempore

bump-ins with people on the tarmac and talking freely like that nut Trump, then we've got to have a theme.

I know what it is.

It's vibe

and

what now?

Oh, joy.

I didn't know.

Yeah, it's joy.

They're that happy and vibe.

Donald Trump growls and he's mean, he's down there and he's a piss.

And he's always saying, America's in the rut, it's no good.

We went to S-H-I-T.

We're going to be vibe and joy.

That's it.

Vibe and joy.

And you know what?

Camela, it just channels right into your cackling.

We're going to be

joy.

It's so funny.

It's so funny.

It's vibe.

That's what she's saying.

It's just, it's twer aisle.

She's adolescent and he's, I don't know.

It's kind of funny to watch him because

she has to have

an

intervention to make sure she can't be public because she can't speak and shouldn't speak.

He has to have one because he speaks too much and he's herky jerky.

He just waves his hand and he gets out there and he starts screaming.

And then before you know it, he's telling this lie about J.D.

Vance's couch.

And he's like, ah, what do you think of that?

Well, I think you're stupid to reply, you know, to repeat a lie like that.

And so.

He looks like he would be a great clown.

He's got that big wide mouth and if you just put a stocking cap on him and a jumpsuit, that's really good.

He's not a nice person.

All these people can do a lot of damage to innocent people.

When his wife said that she opened the window to listen to smell the fumes of riot burning, as if that was to show empathy with the oppressed, I thought to myself, where do the fumes come from?

From the 7-Eleven store?

From the small cake bakery?

These people's lives are going up in flames flames while you guys fiddle because you're afraid to cross these Antifa and BLM thugs.

Or when the daughter says, hey, everybody, I have it in good knowledge that the guard's not coming out tonight, so you're not going to be arrested.

Hint, hint, hint.

That's almost like saying, my father is governor, and I broke confidence, and I have inside knowledge, and I'm going to transmit that.

secret knowledge, classified knowledge, to you people, and people are going to be injured because of that.

And so when I look at that family, that's what I see.

And everybody should read every morning Power Line, because John Henry

and Scott Johnson know these people, because they live in Minnesota.

In the case of Minneapolis, in the case of Scott Johnson, they've gone after him.

for honest reporting about Tim Waltz.

He wrote a great essay in Wall Street Journal, but even before that, he said, please, please nominate Tim Waltz.

Because he brings nothing to the ticket.

He doesn't bring a swing state.

He doesn't bring a dynamic president.

He doesn't

presence.

He doesn't bring a counter debater.

What does he bring?

He just reinforces the idea that they're socialists.

Yeah.

And he's got all sorts of problems.

And I was hoping that I could go over all of them.

Yes, go over them by all means.

Okay, so all these things have come out this week about not just about his National Guard service and him retiring early and also claiming that he was a combat veteran when he didn't see combat.

And the second thing that we all know is that Minneapolis was left burning for three days

during the George Floyd riots before he brought in the National Guard.

And his daughter put on to social media that that's what was going to happen.

So when you talk about them s sitting in a room and making decisions, they must have been.

He must have sat in a room and said, we're going to let this go on just like the Ottoman Sultan let Genesis go on.

Yeah, we know what he was thinking.

He was thinking, day one,

5% of the city burned, but we've still got our connections with our left-wing base.

Day two, 10%.

At what point in a cost-to-benefit analysis do we have to come out and protect people's businesses and lives and alienate our wonderful Antifa and BL infrared?

Remember, this guy created, he's always talking, they want to get in your bedroom.

They want to talk about your reproductive rights.

They're intrusive.

He created a snitch line where the quarantine, you were supposed to call up if you saw a person leave their home.

And in the middle of all this, they had about 60,000 healthcare workers that went out on the streets and broke every quarantine, every social distancing, every masking protocol to show empathy with the the George Floyd and Tifa Beal, and they didn't do anything.

Nothing.

Yeah.

And so all of that is coming out.

And now we were.

Did you have some more anecdotes?

I do.

No, that's okay.

The snitch line, tampons in the boys' breastroom at schools was interesting.

And his drunk driving has come out.

I mentioned that.

I don't understand that.

I mean,

I know people who

have a DUI

and it is a life-changing experience, but to drive 96 miles an hour and be a teacher and be 55-mile-hour zone, and to be pulled over, and say you kept going because you were confused that you were being pulled over, or you had tinninitis and you can't hear, or you weren't drunk, you were just dizzy from medication, or whatever he said.

And then he took a breathalyzer and he was 0.12,

which is now 0.8, then 0.10.

So he was drunk.

And then he got a lawyer to plead down to reckless driving.

Kamala, didn't you bet that?

Because it's kind of important.

The left had that on George W.

Bush, and he didn't tell anybody, as you remember, in 2000.

And then they let that out the last three days and almost sank.

He lost him him the popular vote.

Yeah.

Because they said he wasn't on us and he was a drunk and he had a drinking problem.

So it's always better to get it out.

And they didn't get out anything about the military record.

He said he was a head coach.

I don't think he was a head coach.

I think he was an assistant.

Every little thing, you know.

Yeah, it sure is.

And he also said that people don't have a right to misinformation or to, you know, to spread misinformation or hate speech.

And so suggesting that he wants legislation.

What struck me funny about that was he's the guy that says one person's socialism is another person's neighborliness.

So you can see the distinction there, but not misinformation.

That's a half-educated person that thinks it's cool when people say,

one person's freedom fighter is another person's terrorist, so I'm going to apply it to socialism.

In other words, he was saying, I'm a socialist.

Yeah.

And she said that, and there's this, you you know, when she said that famous, there's a difference between equality and equity.

Equity is more fair.

It's equality on the back end.

Because we don't all start the same, but we will end the same.

We just outline Karl Marx's doctrine.

Come on.

And how do you think you're going to have enough power to do that?

Only by destroying a constitutional system would you have the power to make everybody equal on the back end, except, of course, the guardian class.

I don't know, man.

This is so, this is scary me because

this is the most left-wing group they've ever had.

Two of them.

It's like two McGoverns, two dekakas.

It's like Walter Mondale and Jimmy Carter, but with less integrity.

And they're running, and they won't talk, and they won't come out.

And they abbreviated the campaign season to 90 days.

And then you have these Orwellian narratives.

Joe Biden is perfectly fit.

And if he'd been, he wasn't, you wouldn't dare want Camilla Harris, so he he won't step down.

Joe, you have to have a stress task because we're worried.

Okay.

Then he bombs.

Next day, Joe Biden is completely unfit to be our nominee.

But he's not going to give up power because he's fit to be your president.

But her, she is, we didn't know she's cool.

She's Obama.

And there you go.

We are the most transparent, overt party in the world, but you know what?

We're not going to have an open convention.

There's not going to be delegates bought and

sold, chosen, rejected, different candidate.

What does Joe Manchin think he's doing?

You think we're going to allow him to do that?

She's the nominee, and she's brilliant and cool.

And Joe, we didn't 25th amen, so you're president for a while.

Now I'm really scared what would happen if it because he hasn't been seen.

As I'm we're speaking, he's only got one phone call a day.

If he has got COVID or he's got long COVID or he's declining at even a more accelerated rate, you've got to look at the calculus.

Because there is no morality with the left.

They're trying to think right now, do we force him out

and put her in, say, in September, October?

On the plus side, she's an incumbent.

She's now President, Commander-in-Chief Harris, running for re-election.

But on the bad side,

we expose the world to a dunce before the election.

Then what would we do?

So they don't know what to do.

They're perfectly capable of removing a president.

And the other thing I think you seem to be afraid of, given your recent American Greatness article, is that when you get on the other side of the election, if she's elected, she's just going to, because she's right now saying she's a moderate and she hasn't done it as well as.

The flop is going to be worse than the flip.

That's what I wrote.

She's going to be unapologetic.

And don't think Tim Waltz is going to charge into the Oval Office and say, I'm your vice president, and you're getting a little out of hand on that left no.

He said, pedal to the metal.

And we're going.

And, you know,

so we've talked about this camp.

Did you have another one?

No, I think I've

exhausted it.

So we have this campaign, and we're down now to 85 days, and there's no margin of error.

So Donald Trump has to find ways of smoking them out.

Is that the word?

Yeah.

And he has about three or four choices.

Force a debate.

More debates, better.

Get them done before early voting so you don't do what you did in 2020, have a great second debate when 60 million people have voted.

Don't do what you did in the first, just interrupting and barking and giving empathy to otherwise confused and non-sympathetic Biden.

And don't, so he's got to have those debates.

He can't,

and he has to prep, prep, prep, detail, detail, detail.

You had hyperinflation.

This is what the price of basket of groceries went up.

This was what insurance and energy went up.

You opened the border.

Don't say 20 million people came across.

10 million did.

Why give Snopes an opportunity to say, oh, he exaggerated?

Just get detailed.

Bam, bam, bam.

And then he has his rallies.

No rallies past 70 minutes.

Don't go, just get the rally and don't call her stupid or

Biden doesn't matter.

Don't call her stupid.

Don't call her black.

Don't call her white.

Don't call her anything.

Just say, this person is dangerous, and this is why and how.

And then say, they own it.

They were bragging about the border.

They said to come over.

Biden said that in 2019.

They were saying, I'm proud to defund the police.

We have to have a new method to enforce criminal justice.

Oh, I'd like to explore reparation.

Just say, Camilla, you wanted all this.

You won the Senate.

You guys had the House.

You have the presidency.

So you did all of this.

You've got your hyperinflation.

You've got your pullout from Afghanistan.

You've got your distancing from Israel.

You got your Chinese balloon to go over the United States.

You got defunding the police.

You've got your sorrow-selected DAs.

Lean into it.

Tell us how wonderful it is.

Don't disown it because we know you're going to do it again.

And that would be a very good thing to do.

So he's got to get the debates, and he has to have the rallies.

The rallies have to be shorter, punchier, no off-topic, don't get into helicopter crashes, or don't go in any stream of consciousness.

None.

Just, this is who they are.

This is what I did.

This is what they'll do.

This is what I'll do.

Period.

And then

he's got to have great ads.

He's got to go back and look.

I keep hitting that.

Lee Atwater ads.

I keep looking at them in 1988.

They were cruel, but they weren't crueler than Obama's.

I went back and looked at his in 2008.

He basically said John McCain was senile and couldn't remember his 11 houses.

I forgot that one.

And

then they floated

rumors that John McCain had an adulterous affair.

Then they went out that he was a wealthy.

Then they basically suggested he was a war criminal.

Then they suggested he was a racist.

And then when it came in 2012, they got Candy Crawley to hijack the debate.

Remember that?

And she started to say, oh, that well, he didn't say that.

And then they had the dog, the dog on the car.

Remember that?

Yeah, Mitt Romney's dog on the car.

And then they had E.

Hayes, the high school kid.

He was a mean bully.

And then he was a greedy tax cheat.

And Harry Reid said, it worked, didn't it?

Even though he lied.

Remember that?

And then they had the Paul Vine character, looked just like Paul Vine, taking that woman in the wheelchair and pushing her over the cliff, killing Granny.

This is what they're they're going to do to us with health care.

And then they floated that his wife is an equestrian with a uniform kind of aristocratic horse.

She had MS.

And then he has an elevator in his house.

I don't think he has a house like Obama, not the mansion in Hawaii, not the Martha's Vineyard, not the Calorama.

And then

they had another one.

Oh, the garbage guy.

Remember, there was a little online thing where he didn't talk to the garbage man.

He did not talk to the garbage.

The garbage man goes, well, I pick up his garbage, and he never came out and said hi.

Have you talked to your garbage man?

I do once in a while.

I actually do, but it's not necessarily, it's don't tear up the barnyard when you do Brodies.

But anyway,

they do that all the time.

And you've got to get over that.

Mitt Romney, I would rather

lose nobly than win ugly.

Yeah, you did.

So did McCain, and so did Bob Dole.

And the last guy that didn't was Lee Atwater, and then he became a pariah, racist, horrible person after he was dead.

But if you follow what he did, you can break that lead down the way he did.

And you've got to run the good ads.

They have a great one right now.

They have Ronald Reagan speaking about Jimmy Carter.

And,

you know, look at this man got you high prices deterrent.

And it's Reagan, but instead of the Carter scenes, they have modern pictures of what they have a little Chiron at the bottom of

the Biden-Harris disastrous record, but Reagan is commenting on it.

Yeah.

It's really good, and they need more of those, more of those, more of those.

Yeah, I'm sure if we were in a swing state, we'd be probably seeing a lot more.

I would hope.

I would hope.

I would hope so, but I don't count on anything with Republicans.

They play by Marcus of Queensbury rules.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, I do know what you mean.

I've done about 50 debates in my life, and

in these debates,

there's no reason for the Republicans to play by Marcus of Queensbury rule.

They always do.

Trump didn't, but he overdid it in the first one with Biden.

And the one that broke Biden's backs, figuratively or not literally,

in late June, I think it was the 27th,

Trump kind of winged it.

It was like, I don't, does anybody understand what he said?

And he grimaced.

And he got a pass.

And everybody said Trump destroyed destroyed him.

Biden kind of imploded, emolated, self-emollated.

And Trump's got a prep, prep, prep.

I debated Ariana on I debated a lot of people in my life, Ariana Huffington once.

And it was, is American an empire?

And you were supposed to make this pol it was according to Oxford rules.

You make the positive statement, they make the positive statement.

You critique the positive statement, they

critique the positive statement, you critique the critique, they do.

And she did not want to go first.

And

I knew why, because she didn't want to, she was not going to give a negative statement about America.

I was going to say America is not an empire.

And she says, yes, it is.

It was right during the Iraq War.

But I knew what she wanted to do.

She wanted me to make the positive statement, and then she was supposed to, but she was just going to attack it.

And that's exactly what she did.

And I just said, you're doing that?

And the whole, it was at Grand State Valley in Michigan.

And the whole crowd was on her side.

Oh, really?

Oh, yeah, yeah.

And she came out late.

And I just said, you know what you're doing.

I said to the crowd.

And then she said, we're the only democracy.

Something about

a democracy is going over seas.

Democracies don't do this to fight wars.

I said, Athens did.

Why do you think they went to Sicily?

It was stupid, but they do.

And, you know, we're the world's greatest democracy.

No, you're not.

India is, you know?

And my point is that

when you debate,

the left always goes for the jugular vein.

I did a guy, a libertarian.

I debated Milton Friedman once on the border.

He was polite.

But

I'm trying to remember the guy's name.

He's a wonderful guy.

He was the famous editor of the Wall Street Journal.

I debated him on National View Cruise.

So

you can't be rude, but

you've got to expect if you're debating someone from the left, they're going to go for your throat.

And you've got to deal with that.

And so when you saw, I go back to that classics debate.

Remember when DeSantis debated Newsom?

Yeah.

And it was like the tortoise and the hare.

The hare came out, slick back hair, prancing around.

He was kind of like AOC on the podium, you know.

I'm Gavin and I'm hot.

And in California, he had about 10 memorized little gimmick lines.

And DeSantis kind of had that voice.

That's wrong.

And then it was like the tortoise just pounded him in the last half hour.

Nope, people are 300,000 left California.

Most of them come to your vote.

We're not.

We have a surplus.

You have a $70 billion debt.

Your crime is out of control.

We're dealing with this.

Our population has grown much faster than yours.

We don't have high taxes.

We don't have any income tax.

You have a 13.3 and you've got a big debt.

We have a surplus with no taxes.

How did that happen?

You've got half of the homeless people in the United States.

You've got a third of the welfare recipients.

How did that happen?

And then he just kind of pranced around like an empty suit, and that was the end of him.

And that's what you've got to do with those guys.

And

I don't know, it's easy for me to sitting on my farm here to give advice, but

just to get back to the main point: 85 days,

bring them out.

You only can do that by getting up ahead in the polls.

You get five points, they will come out.

How do you get ahead in the polls?

You do, you challenge them to debate and make her explain herself for an hour and a half, three times in front of the world.

Number two, you have rallies that are disciplined.

You don't go off on ad hominems.

You don't talk about people being stupid.

Why would you say that Kim Jong-un likes you?

I know what Trump meant.

He said, I don't gratuitously insult people and call them killers and murderers like Biden and then be weak.

In other words, I don't talk trash and with a twig.

I'm quiet and respectful, but I got a club.

They like me and they respect me, but it didn't come off that way.

So the headlines say, Trump brags that dictator loves him.

Well, he doesn't need to say that.

And so he's got to have more disciplined rallies.

They're great rallies, just a little shorter and more disciplined.

These are all minor fixes.

And then get the three debates and then get,

boy, get the best ad guys.

I mean, Republicans and conservatives, if they want to, can be pretty imaginative.

They need to get them, and they need to just, as you say, those swing states, flood the zone.

And all those donors,

you've got

these people are talking about a wealth tax.

They're talking about you, just state taxes.

Whatever your feelings are, even for self-interest, they're going to go after you.

Especially, we've seen how they arm the administrative state.

They'll go after every wealthy.

They'll go after Elon Musk, like you won't believe.

You know?

Yeah, so Elon needs to put a little more money in.

Come on, Match Zuckerberg.

I don't think anybody can.

Michael Bloomberg and Zuckerberg will probably give $100 million between them.

Yeah.

He always said, I'm not going to get involved with my $400 million.

No, you're going to get involved more.

We know you now, you're one-eyed jack.

We understand you.

So it's going to be,

time is running out.

I know I got to shut up because I did two Foxes.

I did four this week, and I keep saying, focus.

Don't go off topic.

No ad hominem.

Their record, socialist, socialist, socialist, socialist.

Because when he is on, he's really on.

It's when he just, those few times he takes it, the media goes away with the digression and not without anything.

If I was a Democratic censor or probed a guy and I took that hour and 10 minutes or whatever it was news conference and you just gave me 10 minutes of edits and I could edit that down to 50 minutes, I could make Trump look like Lincoln.

He handled some questions brilliantly.

And when they said, are you willing to have the greatest deportation in history?

Well, I didn't let him in.

Yes.

Basically, were you worried when you let him in?

And were you worried about the effects on people?

So, yeah.

That's always his strength.

He's unapologetic and he's authentic.

But he, we'll see.

I mean, they just go after him.

Today they went after him and said he's not using his orange dye anymore.

So

he's white now.

He made fun of Harris, but now it's anything, everything, constant.

Anything that

we just pulled off a coup and we appointed, we got rid of one one candidate who's the president of the United States, and now we've just selected another candidate and never won or entered a primary in her life.

And we're going to seclude and segregate Waltz and seclude her, and we're going to not let you talk to them, except on our pre-programmed occasions.

And that's what they're doing.

And

they did it.

You know what?

People forget they did it with Obama because Obama, when he was extemporaneous, remember he'd go, uh, uh, uh, yeah, uh, uh, and he'd say stupid, you know, everybody, America exceptional, uh, uh,

I guess just the way Greeks and Britons think they're exceptional.

He would always, you know, or the police habitually stereotype people, or you remember that, all that about those, he got in trouble.

The only person who could do it on the left really well, like Reagan,

was Bill Clinton.

That guy could talk at any moment on anything that would be convinced.

I feel your pain.

I do.

And I'm bipartisan.

I really am.

And there's no, I love Americans, whether you're conservative, liberal, no difference.

Yeah, he's.

Hillary's my partner.

I'm devoted to her.

We've got an ideal marriage.

I have to, I mean, I hate to admit this, but he had a charm about him.

He did.

When he said that about Monica Liz, did you have, is there,

was there, is there a sexual component?

Well, it depends on the word is, what the meaning is.

I thought, wow, that's really good.

What does he mean now?

Let me think.

I'm getting metaphorical or metaphysical or whatever.

I thought,

gosh,

that guy, if I went into Selma Auto Mall and he said, you need a $150,000 EV, I would end up buying it.

Hi, Victor, how are you?

I've always followed your stuff.

You're a wonderful guy.

And we're right on the same plateau.

We agree with everything.

We're just a little bit different here and there.

But you're a good old boy, just like me.

And I'm happy to sell you this car at a big discount.

What do you think?

Come on, go for it.

That's what he would do.

And he would be good.

Well, it seems like

a good president, good person.

I mean, good at rhetorical persuasion.

The last thing here, if you came down from Mars,

you're imagining the thing you always use.

And you looked at this, you would think that Donald Trump should have no problem against cackling, Kamala, and Good Time Tim.

And I just don't.

You don't understand what I, you know, that's funny you said that.

I get about, I don't know how many at the website, but I get about 200 emails.

I can't possibly go through them.

I get comments at the website.

I get people who leave me, you know, text.

And that's the one thing everybody says.

Dear Professor Hansen, dear Vic, dear Mr.

Hansen,

how is this possible?

They have the two worst candidates.

How can they be even in the polls?

This is impossible.

What can we do about it?

How doesn't anybody know who these people are?

They can't speak.

They lie.

They have a socialist.

They didn't even try to balance the ticket.

They're anti-Semitic.

They hate Israel.

They destroyed the border.

They've given us hyper-inflation.

What's going on?

That's even in the polls.

And you think, is it even in the polls?

I went back and looked at the polls on August 1st of 2016.

You know how much off they were from the final?

About seven points.

2020, when Biden won almost 4.5%,

they were five points off.

They had Trump down like nine.

So the polls are rigged.

But there's another problem.

A lot of the balloting is questionable.

So I figure that he has to be up two or three to have maybe a five or six point lead because, in those swing states,

when you have precincts in Philadelphia in 2012,

reported that Obama won 30,000 to 1 against Romney, remember that?

Or was it zero?

It was zero, I thought.

I mean, come on.

So

this has been a wild week.

Did you want to mention Corey Bush's that she's going to take down the kingdom?

Oh, I think

that's about that, her AIPAC thing.

Yeah.

That was so strange because

we have this squad, and they have completely freaked out.

We mentioned AOC dancing like she's a rock star, jumping up and down, and then we had this Bowman calling these people horrible.

It was anti-Semitic.

He's screaming and yelling, and he went down.

Elan Omar has a really good opponent, that Arab-American woman is very bright.

I don't know if she can win,

but it was announced that Waltz introduced on four occasions an Islamicist who said that he compared, he talked about Hitler killing Jews.

They don't do any background check when they talk about it, radical leftist Islamicist.

But of course, they don't exist because

Kamala Harris is on record saying there is no such thing as radical Islamic terrorism.

Oh, that's right.

So the people who wanted to kill the terror

the

concert goers, was that in Vienna?

Taylor Swift.

Yeah, the Taylor Swift, yeah, I think it was Vienna.

And they were not.

Sounds right.

Oh, I guess they weren't radical Islamist terrorists, were they?

9-11, they weren't radical, they weren't Islamic, and they weren't terrorist.

It's really weird how they hate descriptive language and phraseology in favor of euphemism.

Very Soviet.

Yeah, it kind of helps to explain why she has that empty talk that she does when she's off, you know,

they don't like words that actually apply to an objective reality.

You know, it's really funny about that.

You said that when, I don't know if you remember, but in the mid-80s, it was, there were, you know, we have internet influencers and all that.

Yeah.

In the 90s, it was communication skills.

And we'd have these pet professional people that CSU would occasionally hire.

And you were supposed to go to a workshop.

And I had a good colleague, we've got to check this.

I said, I'm not going to go to that.

But they wanted all faculty so you could improve your teaching skills.

And I remember this woman came in, very attractive, and she used her hands like Camilla.

And she said, It's very important to look your students in the eye.

Your hands are not your enemies, they're your friends.

You have to gesture, and this, and then gesturing is important, and so are your students.

And the two can make magic.

And I swear, after about five minutes,

she said nothing.

And I thought, wow, that's the most attractive woman, the most mellophilous voice, the most dynamic nothingness I've ever heard.

That's what she did.

Her whole life, she did that little act as if she could pronounce words pretty well and use her hand gestures.

And she was young and supposedly hot and she got by and she mesmerized people.

But it doesn't work, you know.

You know, it's

all you have to do is...

I was cleaning the house the other day and I looked at a picture of when I was 22 and I thought, who is that guy?

Because I looked in the mirror as soon as I saw the picture and I saw Skeletor, that cartoon character, that's me now.

And I thought,

nobody would see that person and make the connection.

So when you get older, it doesn't matter anymore.

You can't...

You can't charm people.

You can't do it.

You have to do it on truth.

And she doesn't speak the truth.

She doesn't.

She doesn't speak the truth.

She doesn't speak the truth, but she doesn't speak anything false either.

It's just complete, empty, vacuous.

Remember what Christopher Hitchens wrote about?

He sent me once.

I used to know him a little bit, pretty well, actually.

It was hard to get Michelle Obama's Princeton undergraduate thesis.

I don't know how he got it, but for a while he tried to hide it.

So he sent me a PDF of it, and he sent me a little article that he had written about it, and it had a little headliner written in some language other than English.

And I read it.

It was all about how

black alumni communities had to band together with students to fight their oppression on why they were students.

But it had all of this postmodern Foucaultian, Derrida language, the centers of centrifugal power, machinations, and imbalance, and asymmetries of inclusion and all that stuff.

You couldn't decipher it.

And it was all non-grammatical.

And I guess it, I don't know.

It was written in some other language, I guess.

That's what he wrote.

Of course, that was when his

conservative phase.

He went back right before he passed away.

Yeah.

I was close to him for friends for about five years, and then he I was toxic again.

Oh, well, on that note, Victor, we're going to say goodbye for this Saturday, and thanks to all of our listeners.

Thank you, everybody, for listening.

It's much appreciated.

And we've got 85 days, so vote once, but do vote and get your friends to vote and volunteer to go down and look at the voting and be intrusive about the voting question.

And if you have any spare cash, give to the candidate of your persuasion.

There you go.

Thank you very much.

And that means conservative persuasion.

Absolutely.

This is Sammy Wink and Victor Davis-Hansen, and we're signing off.

Thank you very much.