E566 Candace Owens

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Today's guest is a political commentator,

an investigative reporter and a podcaster.

She's known for her conservative viewpoints,

her many viral debates and her own show,

Candace,

which you can find releasing every week.

I'm grateful for her time.

Today's guest is Candice Owen. Anyway, is this mic on her okay? We're good.
Do I sound good? I look great. I look perfect.
Oh, dang. Well, I'm not going to tell you that.
You're obviously a taken woman. Are you hot or cold, do you feel like? No.
I only run one way because I'm black. I was going to ask because you're pregnant.
Are you hot or cold? This is like a repeat conversation. First off, there's the women.
We always run cold. Oh, yes.
I've heard that. My friend Neil Brennan is a comedian.
He has a bunch of jokes about it. Yeah, and so I'm a woman and I'm black, so I naturally like the heat.
Oh, so black women prefer to be warmer? Yeah, of course. No, we like the heat.
Our natural habitat is warm. Oh, that's a good point, huh?ibbean so like the warmth feels great so when i'm boiling hot like the team like my team of guys they're always like they always want the air on so it's like freezing cold in here and i have to tell them like you know some of you are nordic it doesn't work like you know like i have a redhead on my team and i'm like skylar like you know you're from the nordic countries that's why you feel this way i think that like where you're from dictates a lot of your life or where your family would originally be from.
Yeah. I didn't, sometimes I don't think about that.
It would be great if your AC or whatever had like a Caribbean setting or whatever. And you could have set that and suddenly like some great music came out.
It's perfect. And then some guys trying to get you to gamble offshore.
Suddenly you're like, what temperature is this? That would be so crazy. They should have.
Yeah. Where are all the cool settings for the HVAC? I absolutely love the heat.
So I cannot stand the winter. I can't stand the cold weather, the gray weather.
Even there's a difference. In this, I think actually gets scientific.
I didn't need the science of it, but it does get scientific. But if you're from those countries, like if I'm in the UK, because my husband's English, just the gray weather.
I can't live like this. Yeah, it's a bunch of eeyores over there.
Where is the sun? I need this. And my husband is fine.
He can be like productive, like super productive. If it's like 12 days of gray and rain, he almost loves it.
He just wants to retreat to his library. Oh, yeah.
I think all British people are always just writing

war letters and stuff. That's how I kind of

always envision them. They're always just

looking out the window and writing about the war to each

other. That's what my husband does all day.
Of course.

Yeah. And then even Paddington Bear.

Their bear has a coat. He's not even

like our bears are naked. You know what I'm

saying? Like, I'm not saying that that's the way to

do it. But if you bring up an American

teddy bear real quick. Let me see this topless bastard paddington bear is proper yeah now some of these are obviously some pretty right-wing bears put up a uh bring up a politically neutral teddy bear no but they are they're always like not well dressed we're not we don't we don't really wear a lot of clothes in america in general and especially as you come down to the south it just gets because then there's england and there's new england so i'm from connecticut so there's a lot of clothes in America in general, and especially as you come down to the south.
It just gets – because then there's England and there's New England. So I'm from Connecticut, so there's a lot of similarity.
And then the more that you drift south, you're kind of in a different country. Oh, that's a good point.
I never even think about that. Oh, yeah, because you would – if you see some people cooking some of the stuff I've seen them cook, you would call the police in some communities.
But in other communities, you're just sharpening your silverware. yeah i agree that that's interesting but yeah they should have definitely some better settings on the ac if they had caribbean like you turn that bitch set that bitch to plantains or whatever yeah like i would love that i would absolutely love it um you are pregnant now i've been pregnant for four years actually so i think now people are kind of saying to me again, when they see me, are you still pregnant? Or are you pregnant again? So I'm not sure which one, but this is my fourth kid.
So and I've had a child every year. It's kind of crazy.
This is like a lifestyle now for me. Pregnancy is a lifestyle.
Yeah. Do you are there good dreams when you're pregnant? Like, that's one thing because you're kind of dreaming for two.
I feel like it is it almost like being at the sphere or whatever? That's what I would wonder. You get some really weird dreams when you're pregnant and also some very precise dreams that end up coming true.
Totally weird. I mean, I woke up and had such a crystal clear dream.
My last pregnancy, my EP was trying to get pregnant. An EP means executive producer? Yeah, my former executive executive producer and I had a crystal like her son visited me and it was before she knew she was pregnant and I said to her you're having a little boy like you're pregnant and she was like I'm not pregnant and then she went back somebody shot an episode of The Ring in your womb maybe one or the other that sounds wild and then they got pregnant she found out she pregnant.
And then she went back as I texted her and it was the like the day of conception. And my sisters did the same exact thing to me when they were pregnant.
So there's some weird pregnancy dreams that happen. I go with them.
If I remember a vivid pregnancy dream, I'm like, that's happening. Yeah.
Yeah. Oh, that's cool.
Yeah. Because you would think that the spirit would be able to come visit you before it showed up.
Right. Because this is just kind of the physical inclination of a spirit, right? Being alive on earth.
And so it would make sense that the spirit got to come and kind of loiter a little bit or visit friends that or visit like friends of whoever it was going to occupy, you know? If I think about dreams too hard, it freaks me out. Like deja vu, it just scares me.
Genuinely, I'm going, what's real, what's not? Is this inception? Because you are so certain in a moment of deja vu that you've been there, you've seen that person, you've met that person, and yet you haven't in your waking world. So us not having, just humans not having an answer to deja vu is one of those lingering things that in the back of my mind, if I think too much about it, I just get freaked out.
Yeah, I had a guest on recently, this guy, Ari Shafir, and we had the strongest moment of deja vu I'd ever had. And I almost grabbed him and I was like, you've been here.
Yeah. And were you, maybe sometimes like an enemy or a friend or you just know someone.
Well, it was like, I knew you. I was like, we've done this before knew it and he was like like this bastard this dude i was like tell me why you came before i know you from another life yeah what was our beef like dude yeah what tell me what you're fucking doing here tell me who you're working for yeah um did you you so you have three children that are out of your body right now? Is that what you're saying?

Out of my body.

Yeah.

Three, three.

We did three under three.

My eldest just turned four.

And so, yeah, we're on another, we are on another planet right now in my house.

Like the toddlers are running things.

They're running things.

They are.

I'm scared of them.

Yeah.

And I feel comfortable saying that here.

I wouldn't tell them that.

I act tough.

No, you gotta, yeah.

I think you go away from the house.

We don't let them know we're outnumbered, you know, cause they're just kind of learning to count. But we are fully outnumbered.
You only teach them to count at two. Before they start making sense and having a little toddler meetings of like, hey, listen up, there's more of us than there are of them.
I watched way too much Rugrats growing up. So.
Oh, yeah. I forgot.
I didn't see. It's interesting that you would see Rugrats as like a like a psyop idea of like babies kind of like coagulating and forming like a Lord of the Flies.
Tommy had a screwdriver at all times. Good point.
He was a moral person, but he had a screwdriver at all times in his. Yeah, there's.
Oh, that diaper was thick, too. And I'll say this.
This is a little girl on the right-huh she looks like and this guy is also a very handsome guy um in this photo she looks like anthony smith who is a one of the greatest ufc fighters bring up a photo of anthony smith as well on a separate eye separate and i shouldn't say that because she's going to get upset yeah and she's not the one to upset so you just be very careful here before she Anthony Smiths you. Okay, yeah, never mind.
Oh, you have a beautiful family. Are you able to take a vacation? Were you able to take any vacations recently or anything? Yeah, we went, just got back.
I'm saying just got back, but that's how it feels like time is flying. But we spent all of December overseas.
So we spent a lot of time in England because we just want to spend time with my husband's family. And then we popped over to Switzerland for a ski trip, which was awesome.
Yeah. Yeah.
So and I had a lot of these thoughts like when we were walking through Zerma. And I love Switzerland.
It's a beautiful country. But, you know, you get the tour and you're way up in the mountains and they figured out how to just live in the mountains.
And you get these moments where you're just like, you know, there were no black people here when this was built. because there's no way we even like, it's so cold that we would be like, let's see if we can get a sleigh up here and try to build roads.
Like it's just, and it's amazing. Like Zermatt, like you'll get that.
It's the most beautiful town and they figured out how to make everything happen on tiny little roads and with taxis going up and in between. Wow.
That's Zurich? That is Zermatt. Zermatt.
Yeah. Have you been to Switzerland? I haven't, but you always hear about the Swiss Alps.
Is this it? It's beautiful. Wow.
Yeah. Switzerland is truly a beautiful, beautiful country.
And I love the mountains. I will say that.
I'm a mountain girl. I do not love, I actually kind of hate beaches.
Really? I have an issue with sand. I have beef with sand.
Yeah. It just gets everywhere.
I don't know. It's drying and it gets everywhere.
And I just don't like it. Yeah.
I wonder how I feel about it. Speaking of those villages, actually, yeah, I never I haven't been there.
But my friend, when I was a kid, he won his family football pool or whatever for the NCAA football, like like whenever they have the bowl games. And his mom, like, coerced him into buying a Switzerland village or whatever that they could put on their table at home so he he came into some money he came in it was almost like i think it was like 1100 he came into some money and so then dude like two weeks later we're like dude what are you gonna do with the money and he had a freaking christmas village at his house like a doll house or just like you know those villages people get and it's like switzerland and his was switzerland but it Switzerland, but he was furious about it.
Anyway, I don't know why I told you that story, but that sounds like a beautiful trip. I would like to go to Switzerland.
I spent a little bit of time in France and then I was in London recently and actually really enjoyed it. I hadn't enjoyed it as much before, but I think this time I noticed that the people over there, they seem to have like, or at least the women, some of the women over there are more, or maybe this is, I don't want to say women.
But there's more going on than just like likes on social media. There are people that seem to have a bit more to them as individuals.
But that could just be the people I was talking to. Yeah, I absolutely love London.
It's like a second home. And there is a totally different culture.
And if you're one of those people that I like to be uncomfortable, so I like to go somewhere

where I know absolutely nothing and be uncomfortable and learn.

And a lot of people don't like that.

They instantly become judgmental and kind of resort to stereotypes of, oh, well, the

English and the king and the queen and whatever it is that's kind of programmed into you.

I am like the exact opposite person.

Like, I absolutely love their culture.

I love that there's so many rules. There's no reason for rules.

They have rules. You know what I mean?

I love that they wear

hats still to weddings. Like

fascinators rather. Which I learned.

I learned that they're called fascinators.

A fascinator is a hat?

The ones you wear to the wedding, those are called fascinators

not hats and there is a difference.

Bring it up. A fascinator.

I want to see him spell it too because that's even

He sounds like a gay superhero

Thank you. the wedding those are called fascinators not hats and there is a difference bring it up yeah fascinator yeah and he's not i want to say i want to see him spell it too because that's even he sounds like a gay superhero kind of that's how i feel oh shit and it's just a dude that shows up and it's like he doesn't have any specific powers like any of the other superheroes he's just like more like exciting he's like oh shit there's fascinating randy or whatever dude that's a fascinator oh that's a female hat yeah and so you wear they still wear hats to weddings and i love it so when i go to weddings now i wear hats well i call them hats just for americans to understand but fascinators and to shop for fascinators is really fun it's actually like i feel like this you would be hilarious shopping for a fascinator you know because you can just find one that speaks to your character you know but we've given up that like i love gloves hats when you see someone wearing a lot of um like just hats gloves and what's the other thing i like like your outfit to look complete you just look more complete you know You know what I mean? Oh, yeah.
There's more... They look a little bit more gift-wrapped over there.
Whereas here, if it's hats and gloves, it's burglary usually, I feel like. So it's just like America's kind of like...
The best-dressed people in America are burglars, if we're being honest. We have so many burglars now, there should be a contest, I feel like.
We've definitely come a long way from the Beagle Boys. Bring those guys up from DuckTales.
Those guys were horribly dressed. DuckTales.
You strike me as someone who watched the DuckTales. We had to.
This was our babysitter. I was like, Mom, do we have a babysitter? She's like, yeah, the Beagle Boys.
Don't you watch DuckTales every day? I'm like, that's a television program. Scrooge McDuck.
This is a throwback. Yeah, I remember it, but it wasn't my number one show for sure.
Like I really loved Doug Funny. Oh, yeah.
He was really like a cool guy. We also ended up marrying a white guy too.
So I think that all checks out. Do you think Doug Funny though? He wasn't, I mean, I thought Roger was cooler and he was blue guy.
Oh, yeah. He was a blue guy, Roger.
Oh, no, green was he green roger they could have changed him yeah they probably changed yeah people always say he looks like macklemore a little bit too do you know that thing um what is the term for it's gonna escape me at the moment but where you go back and you are so certain that something was drawn a certain way yeah the mandela effect yeah that really creeps me out too do Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah. You'll be like, no, it was exactly like this.
And then it wasn't. Right.
And I'm certain it was like the Bernstein bears. Yeah, that's the big one people talk about a lot.
Yeah, that freaks me out. Remember many people, let me see.
The Mandela effect is when a group of people misremember something such as a brand name or event. Some examples include many people remember.
Yes. Fruit of the loom had a cornucopia.
I agree. And they're saying it doesn't now.
So who's doing it? Who's deleting it? Who's deleting the files of our memories? Because I am certain fruit of the loom had a cornucopia. A little cornucopia, little fruit, little loom.
Are you brought the loom? I don't know what a loom is. I don't't want to but this is the kind of stuff where they just are deleting they're deleting files now so someone is just at the cia just like hitting the delete button and then they just i wouldn't be surprised didn't happen i'm not i'll have one for you pikachu okay did was there describe his tail pikachu short uh let me think of him yeah oh god he's nasty uh he had short little tail kind of like a um just like a little triangle like a isosceles triangle kind of coming off but what color was it his tail was yellow you don't remember anything? Maybe it had a little ball at the end or something?

Like a little black ball at the end?

Yes.

There was no black little thing at the end of it.

Now they're saying Pikachu never had that.

That stresses me out.

There was a black ball at the end.

The one on the left is correct. And they're saying the black ball never existed.

So someone's just deleting the files.

They're deleting the files.

Well, I wouldn't be.

It's like it feels like that a lot of times and we get so like compromised in our brains because we only have so much bandwidth right like we think we have this immense amount of bandwidth but we really don't and so it's like once you're like files are kind of filled it's like that's all you have yeah are you saying we're getting old yeah i think that doesn't help you know candace owens thanks for hanging out with me today i appreciate it it's nice to see you thank you Yeah. I think saying we're getting old? Yeah, I think that doesn't help, you know.
Candace Owens, thanks for hanging out with me today. I appreciate it.
It's nice to see you. Thank you.
Yeah. I think you're like such a brave, you're like veracity.
You're like fearless, you know, and you're like, you're fear. I don't think anybody couldn't say those things about you.
Do you ever like get worried for your own safety or anything these days does that happen any i really don't and it's definitely a consideration like because people are constantly saying to me worry about your safety get security but i kind of think security is one of these things that you get for your own vanity because my perspective is they shot jfk in a moving vehicle he's supposed to be the most secure person in the United States. And so when you see people walking around and they've got security, I'm like, okay, maybe it makes you feel good.
But at the end of the day, it's in God's hands. So yeah, it's just, yeah, they can easily catch me outside of an Eddie Bauer or something.
That's what I mean. In a heartbeat.
That won't be that difficult. So I am extremely realistic about things like that.
And I also think that there's safety in people even saying to watch your safety. Like if people are looking out for you and those sorts of things.
I think we live in a different world now with social media and people that are way more invested in individuals. And the things that were able to happen like in the 60s couldn't really happen today without causing a major firestorm.
So try not to think about that too much i i worry more about the just the privacy uh as a parent to children like that would be that's the the one area because i've seen some clips online of people getting wackadoodle whether you're talking left or right some people can just get way too crazy and way too comfortable and will go up to someone when they're with their kids.

Like I've seen a clip of someone years ago that was chastising Tucker Carlson.

Like he was – I think he was in Jackson Hole.

Like he was in Wyoming where just nothing happens in Wyoming.

Oh, I think I remember this clip maybe.

Yeah.

But he was with his children?

He was with his children.

And –

That's so bizarre because then the kid is witnessing and the kid is like, what's even going on? Right. They have no idea who I am.
My kids have no idea who I am. Yeah.
He's like, I thought my dad sold nicotine pouches. He's a – They think I make breakfast, do laundry.
You know what I mean? So if someone comes up and they start screaming, they're likely to join in. We've got her outnumbered.
out her outnumbered but that sort of a thing traumatizing a child for the sake of your political beliefs and i worry in those scenarios just because i don't trust myself not to fly off with a handle you know because i there's a natural bear instinct that mothers have oh yeah and it's like stay away from the cubs stay away from the cubs so that's i think my. I saw, oh, is this the clip? Is this him talking about it? It's hard to have lunch at the Four Seasons in Jackson during the winter because there's some private equity wife who's going to scream at you on your way to the men's room because that world hates you.
He happens to live in Jackson, Wyoming. So, and I go there, you know, to ski and to fish and I I have for a very long time.
And I always say to him, I can't go anymore because I yelled at at lunch over my elk chili or in the Lyft line or whatever or at the, you know, Westside Market. Yeah.
People can get a little bit crazy. Yeah.
So that's kind of your biggest concern. Do you – did you see that Trump signed that executive order for the health care? Which one? Oh, the one that he recently signed that was just going – Yeah, I think it was like two days ago.
Can you bring that Trump signed that executive order for the healthcare?

Which one?

Oh, the one that he recently signed that was just going.

Yeah, I think it was like two days ago.

Can you bring that up?

This was like a. About price transparency.

Yes, I did see this.

And it's amazing because I've been kind of one of these people

that's been beating the drum on the health stuff.

Before it was cool, like I was called anti-vax and whatever,

irresponsible, stupid, you're going to kill your kids because polio is going to come back you know all the good things people say on the internet and um it's so great to see that's something that I've been saying publicly I've been saying this since I was 20 since I was vax injured but something that I've been saying public since I've had a platform is finally catching and people are starting to ask questions and so I think that that's actually one of the places where the left and the right come together. Because I say to my conservatives actually caught on late to the health movement.
It was actually these leftist moms who were like super granola and crunchy, you know, I believe that for sure. Yeah.
And California moms. And they were the ones that were kind of they were behind that health campaign long before conservatives caught on to it.
And so and where there was no information for parents who didn't want to choose to vaccinate their children. And I found RFK Jr., who I had disagreements with, but he was the only person that was publishing information via his children's health defense website.
And I printed out everything and learned everything kind of from the beginning. And so to see this now become like a national movement is so cool.
It's just about people having rights. Like, you know what I mean? Like you shouldn't be blindfolded when you go into a hospital, you're there for a couple hours and you get a bill that's $2,000.
Like, yeah, that Tylenol we gave you, that was, that was a $300. Like why would I've never taken the effing Tylenol if I knew it was gonna be $300.
Yeah. They're like, it was mined from the Tylenol mines in Rome or whatever.
And you're like, that is on your line. This is unbelievable, though.
I mean, this is I think this is amazing. This is empowering patients through radical price transparency.
Today, President Trump signed an executive order to empower patients with clear, accurate and actionable health care pricing information. The order directs the Department of Treasury, Labor and Health and human services to rapidly implement and enforce the healthcare price transparency regulations um they the departments will ensure hospitals and insurers disclose actual prices not estimates and take action to make prices comparable across hospitals and yeah i think because the number one cause this is one thing that like during the i've never really been super political but one thing that i did latch on to um over the past few years is this program called uh power to the patients and fat joe like has been um like an advocate for them we've done some stuff for them john jones uh the ufc fighter but it's that yeah when you go to yeah there they are right there to the hospital, they can just say, agree to pay.
Then you get the bill later and the prices are insane. But you have no idea what the prices are.
They're burglars and they're not even wearing fascinators. Yeah.
You know what I mean? That's what pisses me off the most. They're not even wearing fascinators and they're burglars.
And it's ridiculous because they're usually stealing from the poorest people in America. And it's so awful.
It's so awful what's been allowed to happen. But sometimes when I see these executive orders, which by the way, I just random side thought because my brain works like this.
Fat Joe is not fat anymore. He hasn't been fat for a very long time.
That's true. But the price they charged him for it is insane though.
Yeah, really? Crazy. He's in good shape now.
You're right. Sorry, medium Joe? Medium Joe.
Yeah, Medium Joe. But he's absolutely right.
And it's, like I said, the people that suffer the most, and it seems like that is kind of the economic model of America, is steal from the poor to further enrich the rich. And there's no greater example of that than the healthcare system.
And it's ridiculous when people say this is an example of capitalism. It's not.
It's the exact opposite of capitalism. There cannot be capitalism in free markets

where you don't know how much something costs.

It would be wild.

And I try to get people this understanding

because you've grown up in the system

so you think it's normal.

It's the craziest thing you've ever seen.

Like imagine you come into a store

and you're like, how much does a shirt cost?

Can't tell you right now.

Can't tell you right now.

Like, you know, just pick up the shirt,

see what you want, you know,

take whatever you want and then we'll bill you.

And they just make up the prices after you're gone. And they're like, actually, like that one T-shirt was $20,000.
And you're going, if I had known it was $20,000, I wouldn't have gotten the T-shirt. You have to be able to actually price shop and say this store is now going to go out of business because it's too expensive.
And the greatest example of that is that you really know it's a drug cartel in operation. It's the ambitions of all of the people that they do documentary series on, or not documentary series, like create all these Netflix series about the big drug dealers.
What's the name of the cartel family? Purdue? No, in Mexico. Oh.
But yes, to the Sacklers, but essentially El Chapo, yeah. When you think about El Chapo, and who's the guy in Colombia as well? I hit on his wife online one time.
Did you? El Chapo's wife? It was an accident. Yeah, it wasn't.
I mean, it wasn't an accident, but I thought he was deceased. He's not.
Oh, so you're probably going to get killed. Sad.
I don't know. Yeah, I really like your stuff.
Sad. That's awesome.
Yeah, it's sad. That's feelings go fast these days, man.
But what are you saying? That it's very similar to this? It's a cartel. It's what they wanted.
They wanted a marriage with the government so that they would be able to push drugs. That's exactly what America is.
And we do these series, like we're like so highfalutin, like the oof, oof, we would never engage. This is what we do.
It is a drug trade that is happening in plain sight. And you've got politicians who accept it because we have more big pharma lobbyists in DC than we have congressmen.
That's wild. Yeah.
It's unbelievable. I mean, that was, and this was one thing that like Bernie Sanders and Trump agreed on that Vance, this was like one thing that ever, that all, but that both sides, like it was bipartisan, right? But my question is like, because now when you go, you can say, okay, well, if it's $700 here for this MRI, I'm going to call across the street and they're going to have to make it $500 if they want your business.
So now you'll get to the actual prices eventually. And that's what happened with LASIK surgery.
So what's interesting is that when insurance companies kicked out, LASIK surgery used to be something that insurance companies covered. And then they decided that it was cosmetic.
So they were no longer going to cover it. When insurance companies were covering it, it was about $10,000, $10,000 to $15,000 per an eye.

Then when they said we're not going to cover it, suddenly the doctors had to compete.

And now you can get LASIK eye surgery for $3,500 for both of your eyes.

Well, they need you to be able to see so they can fuck you over.

That's why that's the problem.

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Get rid of these insurance companies so that we can just pay for what stuff costs. Like I'm happy to go into CVS and buy the $15 Tylenol rather than to pay because the insurance companies are gauging prices or gawging prices.
And suddenly it's $300 for a piece of Tylenol. And then the stress too.
That's the thing that Bernie Sanders was talking a ton about. It's like the stress that people sit there because the number one cause of bankruptcy is medical debt in America.
And just the stress that that causes people. You know, you've lived your life.
Suddenly you're sick. You're going to get sick anyway because you're getting older.
And now you just are stressed at the price because they send this thing. And then the value you put on your own life at that moment and the constant stress of calling these companies and just this war.
And yeah, medical debt is the leading cause of bankruptcy in the US accounting for 66.5% of all bankruptcies. And there's a talk right now of Medicaid being cut, right? But this if, and I'm hoping this is part of their plan that they will enforce this, that because that's the problem.
before that Trump made this an order and it wasn't enforced. It was when he was leaving office.
So I'm hoping that this time that this is something that they will enforce and will actually get the prices down. And then you won't even need as much Medicaid because the prices will be real.
So I'm hoping it's part of like a simultaneous thing that they're doing. Well, it's good that become like the mainstream conversation conversation because most people didn't understand it like i said when you grow up in a system you don't know and the congressman will then do a really good job of making you fearful like if this happens if we get rid of medicaid if we get rid of obamacare whatever it is then you guys are not going to be able to it's actually the exact opposite like you get rid of these things and you'll be able to afford it because you're getting rid of all these people that are just taking money from you and stealing from you why do you think it takes like this is one thing i'm noticing about government it's like no matter who's in office whether it's republicans or democrats um it's always the same shit it nothing ever changes you know it's like you would think at some point they would give you the, you know, you would get some of these things solved.
Like even with this, like why does it take something so long? Like are both sides just screwing? You start to think that just both sides are just screwing us. Well, we need term limits.
This is the problem. So if you have no incentive, if you are going into government and you know that you can stay in government forever, then you have to think of government as your employer.
And you want the company that you work for in the same way that you have a company, I have a company to grow. Obviously, your job here when you're doing this podcast, you're not like, well, what can I do to make the podcast smaller? you know and so they are going there and if they had term limits they would be like well in four years if we say four or six years whatever it is i got to go back and be a regular american so my i have no incentive to help grow government i have every incentive to help grow individuals and grow families and make sure that prices are low they're going in with the exact wrong mentality then they get in there and it's like you can actually be here in time how old is nancy pelosi she's at the crypt keeper yeah right think about how old our government is and they've been there forever biden's been in government forever so their incentive becomes this is my company and i'm going to help grow it and then the lobbyists come to them and they want to stay in office forever they want to go to chuck schumer that slurp lizard's been in there for freaking forever yes and so that would change overnight their incentives to do to recognize that they're going to spend the majority of their life outside of government would make them go in there and want to make things better for us and that's the problem so i'm a big uh supporter of term limits and there's a problem where people shouldn't be able if they're in government they shouldn't be able to then work for lobbies right after because then they're working for the lobbies um That was one thing.
The lobbying shouldn't be allowed, in my viewpoint, should be allowed, period. It should be just completely outlawed.
But every American feels that way. So why is it like, what are we even fucking doing then, it feels like? Because they don't care what we think.
And that's why Trump referred to it as a swamp, right? They don't actually care what we think. Once you get them into office, their job is to keep themselves into office, keep themselves empowered forever.
And they're just in the business of trying to explain in really dumb terms to the American people, like I said, fear-mongering. Well, the reason I had to sign this, and it's all buried, it's like 3,000.
That's why I love Thomas Massey, by the way, because Thomas Massey will say, we just need these bills that we're signing, or we're one line it's like if they even ever agree to do anything for us, it's because they've already done 37 million things for themselves in the first 37,000 pages of the document. And on the last page, it's something for the American people.
It's crazy. Why do bills need to be 300 pages long? Yeah.
And lobbyists are writing half of the bills, too. That's one of the craziest.
They're writing the bills. They're getting the bills passed.
And we have a bunch of traitors in Congress. I mean, that is just the reality of the circumstances.
And anybody telling you that it's just traitors on the left or traitors on the right is lying to you. It's, we have traitors on both sides.
It's, it's very obvious. We have traitors on both sides, but how do they keep them from just saying, Hey, wouldn't you think some, like at least two or three people a year would be like hey this whole thing's a fucking charade like they do rand paul uh ron paul rand paul thomas so few so few because that's what money is people worship money they don't worship values we have this issue in the media we have this issue in government we have this issue in business you know there is just something about money that just turns into a prostitute.
And it's sad. I mean, I've seen it up close.
I've been, you know, there's this expression, never meet your idols. And I felt that the closer that I got to politics, the more I realized how much I hate politics.
I've always hated politics, but you hate it extra once you start to meet people and you realize that everyone's in it just to enrich themselves. And so few people will be able to walk away from riches, so to speak, because they actually want to do something good.
And those people tend to have something that's so much better than riches, which is like their lives are in order. They have families, they're actually happy.
They don't want more. you know? Yeah, I think that's what dumbfounds me the most.
And you believe this program. You believe it because as like, I guess like an American or a citizen of any country, you want to believe in the altruistic nature, not totally altruistic, but at least maybe 75% altruistic nature of people or that people want to do well.
Yeah, I think that's one of the things that's most baffling. And then at a certain point, does that just have to start to turn? Because the grossness of wealth, you just start to see how sick it is and how sour it is.
That's easy for me to say that. I can pay my mortgage and I know that I can afford food.
So maybe that's an unfair thing for me to say, but I just think there's this overall kind of theory there or feeling there. So what do you think is going to be different about Trump in office this time? Like, I mean, I think it's good.
If they enforce this thing, that's going to be amazing. I'm curious to see if they will.
But what do you think is going to be different about him in office this time? Look, there's going to be great stuff and there's going to be bad stuff. There's no question in my mind, you know, that Trump is less beholden to the state.
And that was why the state fought so hard to keep him out. And I always pay attention to those people because I have a almost reverse relationship with the media when someone's being super attacked and the entire mainstream media hates them.
I usually assume that there's some modicum of truth there. There's something that they're fighting for that makes them hate them so much.
And that's like how I came across Thomas Massey. And I would say with Trump, he is definitely a person that does not love war.
And so the military industrial complex, and he's definitely a person who looks at things like a businessman, which is just why would you want to have all of this money going out of your company so to speak if you treat your country like a company and it makes entirely no sense you don't even know where it's going going to obscure causes like why are we funding like pakistani lgbt right it's like weird when you take a look at it and so it's cool to see him instantly attack that and that they're automatically i mean like when they when they went through, you said, it's just amazing to see that. So I think in terms of the economy, we are going to instantly kind of bounce back and people are, you can already feel it now.
People aren't holding their money as much. I think there was, there was a, to me, I felt, and I don't know if I'm biased because I'm conservative, but there was a kind of a darkness and a fear when Biden was president.
And it wasn't because Biden was president. It was because we knew biden wasn't president it's not quite quite strange oh yeah that's like the scariest part like it wasn't because he was president it was because he wasn't president so it's like who who was running the country i agree i can't believe that every day there wasn't a newspaper article from every company that was like hey there is a man who is obviously being commandeered right um who is a puppet because he is not mentally well it's not even a knock on him the guy's not well right it's like if somebody did that to my grandpa grandfather or father i've said that forever you know and you know it's embarrassing yeah the family let it do it it's embarrassing to the rest of the world it's like people can tell the guy's not well and they put him on the bike for 40 feet or whatever and it was like like, who put him on the bike? Falls over.
Well, it's just like you can't put that guy on a bike, dude. It was elder abuse.
It is. That's what it felt like to me.
It felt like elder abuse and it felt like a horrible way also for the world to see us like, oh, this is what they think of their elders, right? And that kind of hits you in a place where like, man, it's just gross. Like people took advantage of this guy.
I'm amazed that his wife didn't speak up.

Maybe that his son, that his children didn't speak up. But also I don't know what their lives are like.
I don't really know. And maybe he wanted to not.
There may have been a big part of him that he did, was able to speak well and communicate and said, I don't, I want to keep going, you know. Um, but, uh, what, what do you like?

I'm kind of conflicted about Trump,

like, with his stance on Gaza, right?

To me, that's like.

I totally disagree with him on it.

And it's like, it's hard to reconcile it in many ways.

It's hard to reconcile because I see so much hypocrisy

in terms of when we say America first,

for whatever reason, we have this magic carve out.

And you cannot pretend that that's not because AIPAC spends $100 million in our election. And this gets back to what we were talking about, whether it's big pharma, whether it's Israel, everyone's for sale in DC.
And so I have been very disappointed with Trump on his perspectives about Gaza. I have been disappointed, by the way, he's the last person disappointed with, because I've been, as we saw all last year with the conservative conservatives, people that say they're Christians who are condoning this on the basis of what like you're saying, oh, well, they're Muslim.
So who cares? And that gets into our programming, which I've spoken about in my podcast of this 9-11 programming where we just don't see Muslims as like human life. And to, you know, to me to speak about Gaza and talking about casinos and hotels, and these people just lost their entire families, it's so far removed from humanity.
And I think it's wrong. And I'm tired of America being used as Israel's piggyback.
For whatever reason, everyone can critique every other country for taking money from us. And then there's just everyone's blind when it comes to Israel.
and obviously I paid a very heavy price for saying that last year but i don't care because i've i am truly someone whose values have never been up for sale like i don't care i will burn everything to

the ground and rebuild it i have to be able to like sleep at night and to see those palestinian

children and the images are seared into my brain the screaming the crying the bleeding the stuff

that we saw on x for the first time largely thanks to elon freeing the bird and really realizing

Thank you. the images are seared into my brain.
The screaming, the crying, the bleeding, the stuff that we saw on X for the first time,

largely thanks to Elon freeing the bird and really realizing how much we had been lied to

about what was happening in that region.

I just, it was very easy for me to say,

take whatever you have to take from me.

I just, I have to be on like the human side of things.

I think it's become both sides of the aisle now

just see that, you know,

human people just feel like this is, that it's just wrong. Of course.
What's happened is wrong. Like probably a year ago, people were afraid to even say that.
And now it is what everybody is saying. Like even Piers Morgan is saying it on his show now.
Like people are saying it's obvious that you can't go and annihilate and genocide this culture and make them disappear. And then Trump to come on top of it and say they're going to build who's going to you're going to go on a lazy river where there's bodies of like who could even go to that.
And what's so crazy is the like the mainstream media thinking that we're so stupid that they're going to condition us to believe that to not support the ethnic cleansing, they're then going to mine our like preconditioned beliefs about the Holocaust and be like, oh, well, you know, a Jewish person died. So if you don't agree with what we're doing over here, then you're a person that wants more Jewish people to die.
It's like this is an evil way to try to socially engineer what you want

because actually it's precisely because of what I learned growing up about Holocaust and ethnic cleansings that I do not support what the state of Israel is doing. And you're trying to convince me that it means that if anybody's been wronged in the past, they can't wrong people in the future.
You're also wrongly conflating. Like a Jewish American, you have nothing to do with what's going on in Israel.
This is a foreign country. No more than if right now we were standing up to a genocide that was happening in ghana yeah and then what i'm going to be like oh well if you don't support what you know the the the president of ghana wants to do then you want american slavery back i'm like it's like what what are you talking about just because i'm black and like maybe my family is from ghana why on earth would you would i not be able to critique a foreign country for something they're doing that is so objectively wrong? And so it's disappointed me as someone who just had so much respect and belief in the conservative movement and believing that it was a principled movement and Christians as well.
I've been very disappointed in Christians who are using, trying to use this like biblical argument for just, well, no matter what, you know. Are people doing that? Yeah, it's pretty sick, man.
It's pretty, it is very sick. They're basically saying that the Bible, you know, the Bible will bless those who bless Israel.
And I'm like, okay, so we have a country who first and foremost doesn't have to give us back our pedophiles. Literally, if you, there's, they have this weird rule that you can go if you're Jewish and hide as a pedophile.
And actually, an amazing Jewish organization did the work there. You could pull it up.
I think it was on CBS. I forgot the name of the Jewish organization.
But they followed, went to Israel, and was like, why are we harboring pedophiles? So there was a Jewish organization that they had pedophiles. They did amazing.
No, they were not the pedophiles. They did the investigation to show how people are using,

how like people who have molested children in America,

if they're Jewish,

they can then make their trip to Israel

and be protected by the government.

And Israel doesn't have to bring,

like they literally don't have to, yeah.

Exposing.

CBS News, that second one.

How Jewish American pedophiles.

You will not find a single person who says that that's wrong.

Hide from justice in Israel. But can't they hide, can't most people say if you are, so these are people that are Israeli citizens? No, they can then become Israeli citizens.
They're American, right? So if they just hop, if they're being like on a trial, you get to Israel, they'll protect you. And so they went and went to where all these pedophiles are and spoke a lot about, you know, this, this, or

I can't remember the name of the organization, but they did amazing work.

They are Jewish community watch.

That's what it is.

And so that's what I mean where it's like, there's also this wrong conflation that annoys

me as well, because you have Jewish organizations who will objectively say this is wrong.

They recognize they are Americans.

They don't support pedophiles.

And yet the mainstream media is trying to conflate them and make them think that they

have to defend the actions of this state.

And yeah, if you even talk about this, let's say it's anti-Semitic, talk about this. What are you talking about? You're taking billions.
That's the difference here. This is a country that is taking billions and billions and billions.
It's an American welfare state, you know, and CBS jumped on it. CBS News investigation has found that many accused American pedophiles flee to Israel and bringing them justice can be difficult.
Okay, has been trying for years to find Carol and help bring the justice. So Jimmy Caro, he's a wanted man and is considered dangerous.
Accused of assaulting a nine-year-old girl in Oregon in 2000. He fled to Israel before authorities in the U.S.
could apprehend him. But is this just one guy? No, no.
So this is a story about how they are doing this. It's the main story is like that they were investigating is that there's so many people that did this.
Why do they allow it? Because they have special consideration and they are not allowed. They don't have to give us back our pedophiles.
I don't know. I don't.
I never understand this random Israeli loopholes. And it's ridiculous.
And the fact that they can just call people anti-Semitic, like a sweeping allegation. How dare you notice that this is happening over here? You're anti-Semite.
And it's like, we have every right to critique this nation because you take money from us, especially, right? That means when we go to work and taxes are being taken away, we're paying to support this. And then we're being gaslit by the media who's telling us that critiquing them in any way is an act of hatred for Jews, which is just such a nonsense.
Oh, I think, don't like that Nyen Yahu guy. I hate him.
That guy seems like an evil guy to me. And I think he's seemed like that to most people now because of, I mean, mostly I think it's just like nobody wants war or anything.
And we're lucky to live in a place where, you know, like Tennessee is not at war with withentucky so there's not like the risk every day or night of things flying over you know the fence um but i've thought that that america is a um kind of like a shell company but maybe it's always just been that way like that's the thing like maybe it's always been that way maybe it isn't i just would like to know what it is right so then it's like you can operate within the reality of things yeah because but then also people say that like well why do you think there's such a strong relationship between the two countries then blackmail i think blackmail and i think this is the reason why we don't get to open the epstein files you don't get to open the JFK files. And I think it's a form of gaslighting us to pretend that our special friend and ally isn't just a person.
I mean, and by the way, parking aside America, other countries too. You investigate anything.
I mean, I'm investigating Brigitte Macron and Israeli blackmail comes up in Morocco. Israeli blackmail comes up in.
So to pretend that we don't know that Israel is involved in blackmail operations is foolish. I think all countries are probably involved in them.
And I think that they have been like the... They have gotten it down to a science.
And there's no question in my mind that like sexual blackmail is what Jeffrey Epstein was involved in. And I don't know if that means these people don't know when they go to these parties that the girls are underage.
And then it's like, ha ha, we've got you on tape, whatever it is.

And we can even take a look at the Diddy case.

You know, blackmail, these blackmail, powerful blackmail operations are definitely operating.

And that's actual blackmail.

Yeah, it's true blackmail.

I mean, if you have hidden cameras and you're capturing people doing drugs and sleeping with underage people.

So I think these are blackmail operations.

And I think they've been going on for decades in America. I think it was Jeffrey Sachs who spoke really well about that, the history of that on Tucker Carlson's show.
And he's Jewish. And that's what I hate about it.
It's trying to make Jewish Americans think that they have to defend the country is so ridiculous. I am not required to if my family goes back to Uganda, I'm not required to defend Uganda as a state.
I'm sorry, I'm an American. And I think what you're doing is wrong.
If it doesn't doesn't really matter, you know, and you're right to say that it's sort of this circumstance where everybody knows something is going on and they think they're just going to keep gaslighting us. It's so weird.
Like they're just going to go. Nothing's going on.
Nothing. There's just every day.
Some everybody woke up one day and decided to be Hitler. Like that's what the media is basically accusing us of for like noticing a lot of dead people like a lot of dead women and children and that's failing and by the way i think that is the reason i don't i don't regret them doing that because it's the reason why podcasts like the mainstream media you know this like effort to just keep smearing libeling people for noticing basic human things and i don't regret it because I think it's the reason that trust with them has been fractured.
I'm grateful that people no longer believe them. I'm grateful that now people are going to independent podcasts.
And when we go on Spotify, you see like Zucker Carlson, Candace Owens. That means that for holding on to just like basic human values and being willing to talk about issues in a way and not pretend that your audiences are stupid and not seeing what you're, we've, we've earned their trust, you know? And I don't want to, I don't want to fumble that ball.
Like I want to always say, even if I don't know something, and sometimes I don't, I can't speak on it, that I don't know everything, but I'm willing to find out before I speak on it, or at least have the conversation and not treat you like you're an idiot. And I'm like the authority.
Yeah. I just can't learn at a fast rate.
That's one of my biggest issues, I think. Speaking about Epstein, right, how do you know he's not just a Jewish guy who was being perverted or whatever and that he was doing business? There's no real connection that he works for Israel, though.
Well, he had passports. So, and then it's also his ties to Ghislaine Maxwell, Ghislaine's father, Robert Maxwell, the whole Mossad attended his funeral.
He died in very weird circumstances.

I don't think even people who are pro-Zionist would deny that he was obviously Israeli-American intelligence.

And he had weird passports.

I mean, he had like a Saudi Arabian passport. pro-Zionist would deny that he was obviously Israeli-American intelligence.

And he had weird passports.

I mean, he had like a Saudi Arabian passport, an Israeli passport, an American passport.

Oh, he's perving that.

Yeah, and under different names, by the way. That's the perv circuit, homie.

He had working passports of these different countries with different names.

You can't just get that.

You know what I mean?

You can't just get these passports without being connected to the intelligence services.

And it was never made clear why he was so rich.

So who was giving him all that money?

with the that. You can't just get these passports without being connected to the intelligence services.
And it was never made clear why he was so rich. So who was giving him all that money? Was this like black ops, our tax dollars going to give him this illusion of wealth and power so that he would party with all these billionaires? And yes, you're right.
Blackmail operations happen all across the world. I think America, in terms of just how America has been seized, that's the only explanation for how Israel is able to expand with such a small population.
Somebody has to be fighting their wars. Somebody has to be funding them.
We're funding them. So I think we've just become like the piggy bank to them.
But if that's the case, what is the cross relationship? Because, yeah, I mean, I think the Middle East is historically a place that's not super chill. you know so that's probably what a lot of people would say is like oh well you need an ally there right which is so stupid I hate when people just say stuff like one of my things that I mean it's a strong theory though but it's not it's just people just say things that are said all the time why the hell do we have any business in the Middle East at all like why are you just trying to tell me that like I, like, I need an ally? And I actually don't.
I don't. Like, why are we involved constantly in Middle East drama? Again, this is one of the things that we've just been programmed since childhood to think that, like, we need to be.
Why are we in Afghanistan? OK, let's say they actually let's say the Taliban is terribly corrupt and they're making women where that's I would like to mind my business. You know i mean and right so there's this idea of international expansionism international liberalism everybody must think like us live like us really like i'm good if they don't actually i'm cool if like russia wants to decide how russia lives and if yeah i agree with that pakistan wants to decide how pakistan lives and why do why are we so nosy i actually just you know we're like next door neighbors.
Never once have I thought about how you live. I've never, like when I got here, I was like, no, I've never thought, well, I really think that the morals in my house are so good that I just need to go next door and force Theo Vaughn to live like I live.
And this is what time I wake up. I wake up at 530 and he should get up at 530 and he should organize, you know, the clothes.
Like I just don't, I kind of like to mind my business like a little bit if that's possible.

If America could employ that foreign policy for a bit,

it'd be great.

I agree with that.

That's how exactly how I feel.

But I do think that we're so fucked in the Middle East

because we've started so much, you know,

we've been just as bad as any other country

as about causing trouble in places, you know? And been just as bad as any other country as about causing trouble in places you know and for whose benefit who has benefited from that all of the stuff we did in the middle east who's benefited from that the answer is israel okay we have not america has not benefited from any of these wars why did we just have all of these daughters and sons dying in the middle east is america safer country our borders are wide open are we a cleaner country than before we got into these wars are we like do you remember the glory days were you alive in the 90s things were so chill in the 90s i feel like i always go back to that i'm like i swear in the 90s everybody was chill we're happy we're wearing overalls we were saving up money for disney in like those big poland spring bottles like at least i was we were in house. And then I just feel like September 11th happened and we just could not stop being involved in stuff.
And we were told that it was because it was going to make us safer. And it didn't make us safer.
All I know, I don't feel safer when I have to just like strip dance at every airport. We used to not have to do that as an American.
We should just get on the plane. Isn't it unbelievable? And they never found anybody with a shoe bomb.
It was just this illusion of Middle Eastern terrorism that made us give up all of our rights. Things used to be cleaner.
The streets used to be cleaner. There wasn't America before we decided to get involved in everybody's business.
But you can't blame that all on Israel though, I don't think. Well, I'm saying that, I'm talking now about our Middle Eastern policy.
Right. Well, yeah, I think we've created so much carnage over there that now you have children who hate America.
You have places that hate America. And the sad part I agree with you on is that, yeah, the human, regular American people are the ones that have to sign up for the military because they, either it's tradition in their family or they want to support their country or they don't have a choice because they're going to have to go to jail, different reasons.
But they're the ones who have to actually go in and die and be the pawns of these sick governments. Right.
And I do think or these strategic governments like that's the thing. I don't know sometimes if things if the if the governments are if some of the international politics, I don't have an understanding of international politics.
I mean, I have ways that I feel, but I don't have a strong information well. But I do think that it's sad that it's the regular just voter that has to go and put their life on the line.
It's the very same people that the mainstream media calls racist, sexist, homophobic, and anti-Semitic. And then the price you get to pay for that is that you get to sign up and fight the wars so that those little elitists can write their articles about you.
Like I literally said no one should sign up. Like when we under the Biden regime, I'm like, I would never send my kids to fight in a war for a foreign nation when this is a condition of ours.
The whole idea of signing up for the military is supposed to be defending the homeland. Okay.
Now we're defending Ukraine's borders. And they're again, using the same weird argument.
That whole Ukraine thing is unbelievable. But it's a laundromat.
What are we even doing? It's a laundromat. Look into it historically.
Zelensky is a puppet, you know, that's being, and the use of that was we were running money through Ukraine. They can't account for the billions of dollars that we sent to Ukraine.
It's getting, it's a laundromat and it's just being sent back to the same elites while the American people suffer. that part i totally agree i mean we can't we can't account for any i mean no but it's a laundromat this is money laundering and this is what i mean when i feel like that for sure like you just don't really know what's going on and they shame you we can't trust our but who shames you the mainstream media for not supporting it you know and that they shame you they call you the isolationist you don't want to get involved Ukraine.
You're an isolationist. I'm like, dope.
Love it. Can I get it on a t-shirt? Isolationist.
You're, you don't, you don't want Big Pharma to have more power. You're an anti-vac.
Cool. Anti, whatever you need to call me, put it on a t-shirt.
And that's what I hope that people get from me when they watch my podcast and people know that this is just high school name calling. Okay.
A bunch of dweebs are down in DC, people that you would have probably never even freaking hung out with. Okay.
And they're telling you how you're going to live and how you're going to work for them. That's stuff they would never have the courage to do.
You love the war so much. Neocons, the conservative side, put your kids in the war.
You love it so much. You love Israel.
So go fight for Israel, dude. There's no rules here.
Pick up and go, right?

The pedophiles can go.

I'm sure you can go.

And it's not that.

Pedophiles should have to get out there on the front lines, I think.

That's a perfect solution that I would get behind.

All of them.

Every single one of them.

And so, yeah, that'd be great.

Put them all in helmets.

And I'm just so sick of people who live in-

No helmets.

No helmets.

No helmets.

I'm going to say that. I love that.
Yeah. And so I'm just just so sick of people and then they look down and who are the first to sign up oh the good old boys people down here in tennessee alabama right and they hate you they hate you the most right they hate a white american straight male is like the number one person that they want to just like annihilate like every every sense of America I felt yeah I mean I will say that I definitely felt like um yeah I felt like during like the past eight or ten years of uh mainstream media yeah like you were the one that got picked up picked up uh picked on like people where I was from were the ones that kind of felt like got picked on uh by late night hosts.
You know, you were the only person that was left to make fun of was white men, right? It was the only person. So it was just like all your fault.
I hated that shit, you know? Because I don't even identify with a lot. They're like your redneck or your maggots.
Like I don't identify with any of that. It's like, don't tell me who I am also.
Like I didn't like that shit. But yeah, but that that should they should be angry about that so you you realize this is it's those people that are writing the articles that hate you who will be the first one to tell you to sign up to go fight the wars that enriches them it's a nonsense like who cares call someone a redneck can i get it on t-shirt like who cares stop this cycle of abuse and they're and that's always what they try to do is they try to, well, you're ignorant.
I sip my, is it chai?

Chai latte in new york city i've never i know nothing these people who lecture you about the environment and lecture you about you know what we're so educated we write these articles about like green new whatever it is have never been in the environment man like they're they're in like a concrete jungle they would die they would literally die if electricity went out for longer than a week okay they don't know how to they make fun of people who hunt who want to survive and then when there's something that they want to accomplish overseas they want you you to go die and so i just want americans to wake up to that to wake up to that and to realize it's left and right and when we are just screaming at each other and you don't recognize that there is this power apparatus that sits in the middle and that they will always use you and use your emotion and use words like racism and sexism

and antisemitism, that should be the first red flag. When you hear someone not making an argument,

but calling someone a name, what you have behind that is a fleet of nerds that are trying to socially engineer you to go do something for them. And they would never do it for you.
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So you connect a lot of dots between like Israel and media,? But do you think that it's just capitalism? Don't you think a lot of times it's just business? And that's how business works is that it's one of the side effects of capitalism. If that were the case.
So the reason why this is different is because Israel is actually the exception. They are the only country that's allowed to lobby Americans.
Like everyone else has to register as a foreign agent under Farah. Like with AIPAC or whatever? Yeah, so AIPAC, the backstory, by the way, before JFK got shot, he was fighting AIPAC.
They were previously called, I'm blanking on this. You can look it up.
And and he was literally saying you have to register under the foreign act is that true let's look a thousand percent sure and you should look it up we should fact check that live um he was fighting with what is today known as a pack ah as was renamed azcpa i don't know what that stood for in 1959 azcpaCPA was renamed APAC, American Israel

Public Affairs Committee, reflecting a broader

membership and mission. Yeah, so JFK

told them that they had to register

under FARA.

And so, American Zionist

Council, that's exactly what it was called.

Okay,

American Zionist Council was a pro-Israel lobby

in the United States founded in 1949.

It represented nine nationwide Zionist organizations in matters related. See at the bottom there? In 1962, President, look at the last paragraph.
In 1962, President John F. Kennedy and his brother Bobby, as a U.S.
Attorney General, forced the AZC to register as a foreign agent. In doing so, they were barred from making monetary contributions to U.S.
officials. Who was barred? AZC? Yeah, so of a better term they were called azc back then but continued to send out newsletters and hold events with with a non-profit tax exemption and then what happened was he was shot so he he literally like they were writing him letters you can find this this is all like this is available information um and he was like you need to register you need to register you need to register and then we told you to register why are you not registering this makes no sense and then he a pack got lucky because he got shot and killed what also you could like so they are the only the reason i'm bringing this up is not to further conspiracy theories they're the only country that's allowed to to lobby americans not that do not are not registered under the far act and so So when you see people fara so that's like if you're a foreign agent you have to basically register your communications are monitored all this stuff but for whatever reason israel is an exception to this and the reason is because jfk got shot because otherwise they would have been under this so that is the reason that they're allowed to do this and so um you know when this and and then of course we're not allowed to read the files but leading up to his death he was having arguments with the prime minister uh ben garrion that's a fact another fact he was having heated arguments with ben garrion and then the problem yeah look it up jfk foreign agents registration act is a u.s law that requires people people and entities working on behalf of foreign governments to register with the Department of Justice.

So it drives me insane to see these absolute frauds.

Like when they go, oh, Russia spent a million or like whatever they said.

I remember they came after like Lauren Chen.

And they're like, there is idea that Russia spent money and they'll say something like $26,000.

So they spent $3 million like, you know, and influenced the election.

And all of these people will be taking money from AIPAC. They're like, oh, well, AIPAC got lucky.
Well, AJFK got shots. But wasn't the Russia story just, it was, that was figured out to be a facade.
Right, but so when you, but when you hear these people in your government saying this, you should know how fraudulent they are because they all are taking money from Israel. And so it's like, yes, is Israel doing it legally because a president got shot? Sure, but but it's wrong there should you a country should not be able to lobby to get what they want and control our congressmen and you get to see them flex that muscle like tiktok and things of nature when they when they are now interfering with our speech and they'll get laws passed really quickly it allows a literally a foreign country to make decisions in our in our nation lobbying should just not be allowed full stop so.
So instead they go, oh, well, you're focusing on it because they're Jewish. No, you're just the only country that's allowed to do it.
I would feel the same way if China, if there was a Chinese lobby. Is China allowed to do it? No, there's no other country that's allowed to do this but Israel.
Only AIPAC. There's no other country that everyone else has to register under the FAR Act and that changes things significantly.
AIPAC is the only, you know, American, Israel, PAC, whatever it is, that's allowed to spend $100 million in our elections and not be called names. Like if, can you imagine if Russia spent $100 million in our elections? If there was like a Russia PAC or a Chinese PAC and they were just allowed to spend that kind of money to lobby and pay our politicians to say things and to believe in things.
And that should make people angry. Like that should make people angry.
Irrespective, like I said, it could be any country. Unless, right, I agree with you that it's amazing.
Or let them all do it. Right.
If like America is owned by Israel or something or part ownership or whatever, just tell us that. Right.
Well, they don't want to. Like that's a weird thing I don't understand.
Because then you wouldn't sign up for wars. You would start to question things in a different way.
And so it becomes important for the government to keep Americans ignorant of how Congress works, what's going on, so that they believe they're Congress when they go on a rant and say, Israel's our friend and ally. And they don't know how to just very easily look up and see whether this guy's taking money.
Or when someone says, this vaccine is going to save your life, and they don't know what's happened with the CDC. People don't even have basic civics understanding, but that's by design.
And this is something that my former colleague Matt Walsh said, and he's so right. Go back and read the letters that were written during the Civil War from like poor kid from Tennessee, Alabama, Louisiana, writing to his mom with no formal education.
And it sounds like poetry. They were so educated.
17-year-olds. I'm talking 17, 8-year-olds like talking about how they missed their mothers.
And you read these old letters and you're like Americans were so educated. There's been an intentional effort to make Americans dumber and dumber and dumber about their own processes because then it allows for the gaslighting media to come in and sort of make, I mean, you have people now, you look at the, we are factually speaking, getting dumber and dumber every decade.
And they fashioned this with the Department of Education, which is now they're going after that too, which is great. Trump is saying like, no more, but you federalized education and there was a reason for that because now they can keep you focused on learning about emotional things.
Well, we want you to learn about race. We want you to learn about sex.
It's very important that we learn about trans rights. And so this is where I think the left and the right get, we're fighting over stuff that's so irrelevant, right? Yeah, a lot of times it's just like everybody's fighting over bullshit that doesn't super matter.
It does matter. But really sometimes just like select small groups, we get these political kickballs that get kicked around back and forth and they're the biggest things in the whole world.
BLM and like – Like the bathrooms, like, you know – Bathrooms. Bathrooms.
Like I'm just saying – I'm not saying that trans people don't need a place to urinate. Um, everybody does, but I'm just saying, it seems like there's ways to figure it out.
I'm from a community where if somebody attacked a gay person or a trans person, you would fuck those people up. Right? Like that's just where I'm from.
Um, but, and also, by the way, we had already solved that. Like everywhere in the world, it just used to just say bathroom.
And we knew that that meant anybody could use it. Do you remember this? And now it's like this issue where they're now writing signs that are like, any person can go here.
And I'm like, have you never been on a plane? Yeah, I know. Everybody just goes in the same bathroom.
That's a good point, huh? That's how we used to be. But then people bring it.
But then there's always some lurker, some little slurper running around in and out of there, putting on a bow tie or whatever. there's always always some little freaking sniff god running his nostril up in there trying to get a huff of something young you know and that's where it gets a little bit dicey you know like at the airport sometimes when it's a unisex bathroom you'll see like i've seen like a pair of young girls walk in and then a guy walk in it seems well i don't mean the big ones i just mean like when they had the had the independent stalls, which just allows like a family bathroom.
You just go in like one person at a time. Yeah.
I'll use the family stall. I use the one at the airport and the secret wall just says family or whatever on it.
It's always cleaner. I used to go in there and smoke.
I'm going to report you. Yeah.
Sorry. Yeah, no, it's okay.
It's fine. But obviously you're in conspiracy theories.
I'm just into the truth. And as soon as you start following the truth, they call you a conspiracy theorist.
But like I said, I'm comfortable with it. I literally sell stuff that says conspiracy theorists.
My whole mission is to make people realize dweebs are calling you names and you're, I don't know, like you just got to stand up to them. You called me a conspiracy theorist for talking about vaccines for years.
And then COVID happened. And suddenly people are all looking at my old series and going, wow, well, if they could lie about COVID, did they lie about other stuff? Yeah, buddy.
You're looking at a drug cartel. Yeah, they're going to lie to you.
They know some things, you know. I think things start to feel super obvious to a lot of Americans that there's, it's just been that we are being laundered, right? We are the things are, but then you start to, then it gets to a personal level.
It's like, do some people even really care? I know there's a part of people inside of their spirit that probably really cares for most people, but then it's like, how do you uncompromise and unaddict yourself from the easy things to want to spurn yourself towards action, right? Well, let me say this. How do you keep like – because you got anti-Semite of the year or whatever, decade or whatever it was.
But like – because I don't like what Israel – like their space in Gaza, right? Like that to me is just like, seems super tyrannical. But didn't they just come up with a thing today about the ICC? They can't prosecute Netanyahu.
Yeah. Because he runs shit.
Is that today? He's like the ultimate grand gangster. He's like, even when they catch him doing the crimes and we created this court for exactly what it did, they said can't do this and then they say well just cancel the courts you imagine being like that much of a worldwide gangster it's crazy right and i wish they would just say look we're still letting everybody be gangsters because that's what i don't like about the media a lot of times there's this thing it's like we all need to look out for each other and we need like um climate change and we need to make sure that everybody has a safe place to urinate and all those things, which, yeah, I think all those things are important or worth discussion.

But at the same time, you'll have countries that are still playing this Fidel Castro type of role.

So it's like, why do we keep saying all these little things are important, but you can just can just say hey we're still in colonial or we're still in the old school days and shit is what it is yeah so fucking mark off your fence yard and protect your fucking shit because that's what countries are doing like that's how they're operating but they're trying to create ambiance that makes us feel like we can't operate like that or you're a bad person if you do operate like that. Right.
They're actually morally pretentious. They're pretending it's like, oh, we've just gotten, we're so dignified.
We would never do this. Look, if it's the rules of the jungle, it's the rules of the jungle.
Let us know. Right.
That's my biggest thing. It's this illusion of we're better.
We would never, oh, because of World War II. You're doing all of it, right? You're violating every single one of these codes that you put into place.
And if you're going to do it because I'm big and you're small, then say that. So like the small guys know what's up.
It's the rules of the jungle. That's my thing.
I just want to know what the rules are. If America is owned by China and Israel and Taiwan, just tell me that.
Let me know. Like, a certain point, you know, if you keep, you know.
What you're talking about, by the way, there's a term for it. It's called real politicking.
Real politicking? Yeah. That's all I want.
I just want to know. I'd rather know that we're working with cartels in South America because we are, right? Yeah.
And like, that's cool, CIA, like whatever. But just like, please stop the pretentious, oh, you're fake.
Oof. Oof.
Yeah, that's scoffing. That's the American government.
It's the scoffing. We would never, yes, you would.
Yes, you have. And yes, you are.
And people that know real politicking. Let me look at real politicking is the approach of conducting diplomatic or political policies based primarily on considerations of given circumstances and factors rather than strictly following ideological, moral, or ethical premises.
Right. And so if they're like, yeah, here's the thing.
Cartels are getting big in the South. And so, yeah, morally, we shouldn't work with the cartels.
But also, if we let the cartels keep growing and El Chapo keep growing, then you know what? Then Mexico could become stronger than us. So we're going to do deals with the cartel.
Like, that's right or say yeah we're part israel is a we are partners to the end and this is how it is the problem is i think you used to be able to do that but the news decided to not be the news anymore it decided to be um like not real you know because the cia purchased them right and that's a fact again you could pull this up so that we can conspiracy theory what is operation mockingbird the cia after jfk was shot which is just the fact look please look it up because i'm going to sound crazy if you don't look up operation mockingbird um but everything happens after jfk gets shot uh but yeah work again but let's look it up it's fine no this is this is on wikipedia so we're not even like we're're not on Reddit feeds here. You know what I mean? Everything I'm showing you is on Wikipedia, so it means, like, they've admitted it.
Operation Mockingbird is an alleged program at the United States Central Intelligence Agency that began in the early years of the Cold War, attempted to manipulate domestic American news media organizations for propaganda purposes. And where were they from? 1963, there at the bottom.
So it's just a group of Americans? No, the CIA just paid american journalists to say what they want to operation mockingbird right so that you and i are taking money from the cia this would be the theory and they're paying us yeah if we're journalists and so then our job is to be like gaslight the american people so if let's say the cia was involved in shooting jfk right okay well that kind of is what i believe as a conspiracy theorist but i don't listen to me. I'm a conspiracy theorist.
CIA was involved. And so the next thing you have to do, the population's freaking out.
What's going on? What's going on? OK, they start putting journalists on payroll and they're supposed to gaslight you and be like, this is a closed case. The matter has been closed.
JFK tripped and fell. And that's how he died.
And anybody saying anything else is a conspiracy theorist. Also a fun fact, the term conspiracy theorist was created by the CIA.
It's literally a gaslighting. It's a word that's used to gaslight you.
And so I've fallen in love with going back and learning real history and recognizing that the public school classrooms, which I grew up in, were meant to program me and social engineer me. And so to find like historians, if you want to know why people react the way that they when tucker has on like a daryl cooper or somebody that's deep in a can tell you more about world war ii and more about world war one whatever it is is because they are the mockingbirds right they they are freaking out because this is now failing there has never been any indication that um operate operation mockingbird has ended in fact it it is known that barack obama reinstituted project mockingbird and so you have to know these things you have to it's you can look at a project mockingbird obama but did you write the article that's out there no i'm not they would never let me be an editor i'm i want anti-summite of the year there's no way they're letting me do anything ever on like anything government stuff um you know they've They've put me on the adl list they've tried to smear and libel me into like a ridiculous way to make it i mean they say i'm literally adolf hitler i'm made off it i'm the new i'm the new i'm the second coming i've read somewhere well at least they casted a black hitler this time i feel like that's cool right like it's good for dei or whatever here's here's my here's my question.
I'm so nice. I'm way too pregnant.
This is crazy. No, you're all right.
I just need a break. This is too much for my brain today.
But how do you keep your Jewish friends but have issues with Israel and stuff like that? How do you manage that? I haven't, not even one Jewish friendship has ended

because it's,

it's very weird.

Like the purpose of these advocacy groups.

And Jewish agents set this up today too.

I want to know.

Yeah.

But that's the point.

Once you know people,

they're not going to fall.

You think my,

I grew up in a very Jewish town.

I grew up just outside of New York city

and all my best friends growing up were Jewish,

just happened to be the way that it was.

And so like, you're not going to convince them, these people that like, I was at their Rosh Hashanah dinner like I know like I know Jewish prayers and the Jewish families that I worked for in New York overnight that canister into Adolf Hitler like that actually is being sold that's a good point which is like they're not going to buy that you know what I mean so it's it's stupid but the other thing is that they haven't yet worked through I think this new generation of smear tactics, like the people that are employing it now, people like Barry Weiss, they haven't quite figured out that once people have a platform that's big. Like if people are watching your show every single day and I say, actually, Theo Vaughn is an avowed racist.
Like he is the second coming of whoever. You know, he just wants slavery back.
you're not just condemning theo vaughn you're condemning the millions of people that listen to him and they get mad because they know you're basically they're going to be like i listen to his show every day what are you talking about he says raisins are you you like raisins because they're grapes that have been through shit that's a theo vaughn quote yeah i would never do slavery dude i can barely dude. I can barely, I have fucking three employees.
I can barely handle these guys. But if I had advocacy groups and tons of money, I could just be like, write articles that say Theo Vaughn hates black people.
Okay, we could do it. But at the end of the day, people that listen to you know better and they get angry.
And all it does is it breaks them away from trusting the mainstream media more because they are listening to you every day. So I have the confidence in my followers.
They know me, they know who I am. I don't hate anybody.
I just hate liars. And they come in all different shapes and sizes and races and religions.
You can find you a liar anywhere. Yeah.
Well, I do think, because there's also a lot of great things that I see in a lot of Jewish families. They value education.
Right. They invest in their children.
Those are some of the things that they do super well. They work together, right? Like a lot of Jewish guys that I know they'll connect you with another Jewish guy to work, work with or something, you know, like they help their group, you know, and that's something that I feel like other groups could learn how to do as well.
You know, that's something that I think. I mean, I was, I learned my work ethic.
I got from two Jewish men. I worked in private equity for four and a half years.
Oh, really? Yeah. And that's a lot of bonds not in municipal bonds private equity um it's going pretty i mean it is you know what do you mean it's going good it's set set percent yeah so but they they pretty much like you know you can't live in new york city and hate jews they're literally everywhere but that that's kind of been one of the worst things about the politicizing of this is exactly what you're talking about my perception of jewish people is having being someone who grew up in new york that they work hard they grind you know they fight they love you can get into an argument with them they don't take themselves seriously you can say whatever and then be out to dinner and to see that the branding of that now like this like victim mentality i don't recognize this this like whiny victim mentality well now when when everything's become political it becomes like the dc version and version and this is why i also hated the blm because black people are like very funny have a good sense of humor you can always just like make a joke and that's kind of like that that's what our culture is and then blm turned black people into like victims like racism's everywhere it's in the way that that person's braiding their hair it's the form of whatever they're learning in school weird terms cultural appropriation and i'm like it turns into wimps like this was our our cool thing was we were funny and we could take a joke and mock people for being you know white redneck chinese like that's the cool thing and when you remove that and then suddenly like it's like hysteria and you're like I'm a victim and everybody

it's like you're not fun anymore

you suck and I hate you because you suck not because

of your race whether you're black Jewish or

white you know

yeah I mean I think America just has

America is just I mean we still

haven't even dealt with I think the trauma

from like the Native Americans that were in our land

I think we still have a lot of like

like

repairing to do you know I think

we're still repairing we just just need more comedians. I don't care about your feelings.
I just want to make fun of you. Please, can we all just make fun of each other? If you go back to like, that's what I say, the 90s.
Oh yeah, that shit was great. And Chris Rock was up on stage and he's just making fun of you for every issue you have.
And by the time you walk out of there, you're all laughing at each other and you realize that your shit stinks and your dog does poop ma'am you know do you think i know that lady scoffed me when i fell out of that chair at the inauguration she's like oh oh like i had fucking like i was a fart that had come out of her oh look at this at this gross. This thing from steerage that climbed up here somehow.
This thing that would never get in a lifeboat on the Titanic. Fucking.
Yeah, when I fell out of that chair at the inauguration, that's what she was doing. What else do I want to ask you about? Okay, so you have let's get in.
I can't even handle anything all serious now you have um you have a conspiracy theory about brigitte macron right or it's a conspiracy theory and look i was a i was we were one of the first podcasts that had bobby kennedy on because he's a friend of mine right so he came on and he even said dude i don't know if i should be on right and then fast forward three years later five years later and he is, and now those people are like, Bob, he's the fucking man, you know? So I understand like, you know, conspiracy theories and also just being brave to have somebody on. Like I was like, some people might be afraid to have Candace Owens on.
I was like, I want to be, I don't want anybody telling me that I can or can't talk to somebody. Like that me feels really good.
Now, I'll admit probably I'm not the best in this conversation of like some of the topics. I probably get scared or I don't know enough information.
Right. But that's always something that I kind of struggle with.
And so sometimes I let things be said where it's like I don't fact check them. But sometimes I just forget.
You know, I'm not either you know i i don't know what the fuck i'm doing so i work hard at it though you fucking better believe that people like you know what the fuck you're doing i'm like yeah but i'll be there every fucking day that's exactly who i am people like you i never figure it out i never exceptional at being average like average meaning like relatable. That is what you're exceptional at.

People feel like they can

listen to you and they can understand

and they can think with you.

We've disrupted, and I'm putting myself in the same

box here, we've disrupted

this model of lecturing the listeners

that they had going on for years.

We are CNN. We know we will tell you

Do you feel like you get lectury though?

No, not on my show. Do you watch my podcast? I've seen your podcast before no i'm just having fun now you do come off with a lot of information yeah and you get creative um and you get you create like these um timelines and stuff i'm a psycho i'm a woman you know that's it between you us two like where i'm a woman so like it's got to be organized.
I got to be like, the kids, I got to put their clothes out. Same thing for my podcast.
I'm like, let me tell you what happened. Look at this timeline.
Have you faced legal issues? Have you been sued? I have been sued. I have indeed been sued, but have I been beat in a lawsuit? No.
And do you have to have a lawyer on staff? No, but I have a lawyer that is like he's basically my friend. Like he's just he's become like a brother.
You know, like we get all sorts of crazy letters. We got much more threats to be sued in terms of like actual lawsuits.
I've only gone to court with two people, you know, one one of them both. So, curious and what about uh cyber security i noticed that you had this uh you have this brigitte macron who is the wife of the president of france his name is emmanuel macron and one thing that's interesting about them is they have an age difference right how many years is it how many years they tell people or how many years is it actually wow that's how it goes um if you haven't watched the series i mean there's a reason it's going i've watched two episodes of the series it's crazy this is not like this is wasn't nothing and i want to be clear i wasn't the one who i happened upon this because i'm one of these rare birds because i'm nosy that if i see something happening in another country i will take the time to pick it up in the foreign language and then interpret it into English and to try to read and understand it and most people just will be like I don't care it's happening in France it's happening in Romania it's happening wherever I just make time I get interested and so Savannah who's my manager remembers the night at the UFC fight where I found the reporting on this and actually the way it popped up was like the Daily Mail actually did a piece on Brigitte Macron.
It was just funny to me because they were like, Emmanuel Macron, you know, angrily denies the rumors. His wife's a man.
And he was like, all stressed out and was like, it's not true. It's not true.
And I'm like, I was like, what the hell is that in France? Like that? Like the president has to come out and make a statement on this at all. Well, this is a story that's come up over the years like this is yeah alleged an alleged thing but what was weird about the Daily Mail piece but in 10 minutes can you give me what how what is going on yeah so what was weird about the Daily Mail piece is that they didn't debunk what the people were saying and this should be such an easy thing to debunk like if you were like Candace Owens is a man and never grew up you know in Stanford I'd be like yearbook yearbook yearbook yearbook yearbook here's me and my family.
It's such an easy thing to debunk like why is this going on for years? So that's what caught my attention looked into it and 1000% she was born a man lived as a man for 30 years you know and then transitioned at some time in the 80s. But are you worried about getting in trouble for slander by saying that? I have welcomed the lawsuit.
I mean Emmanuel Macron sent me a threat before we published and we went back to him. Did he sign it or whatever? It was his lawyers.
Oh, it'd be cool if he signed it. And so, yeah, he sent the threat and the way that it works in Tennessee, you know, first and foremost, we have the good old boys here.
So I said to him, like, this is not the state to come and try your little hootsy, floopsy, French, Parisian, whatever it is. Like, you know, if you're messing around with kids, this is not the place for you.
Secondly, like if- was messing around with kids the wife then yeah that's what we're calling so brigitte you're saying is a male biological believe was a male or is a male well you can't really change those things in my world but well lives as lives as a woman clearly okay lives a woman now yeah i would have never thought that she was a man and um so anyways, the story really is just like, you know, lived as a dude, transitioned, met Emmanuel when he was just 14 years old. Okay, so she was a woman when they met, you're saying? Living as a woman early days.
Living as a woman. Like not doesn't look, didn't have all like the feminization surgery.
I can't even tell you her doctor's name. Oh, you're saying so she was just kind of fresh out the...
Growing the hair

out, like, yeah. Starting to, like,

live as a woman, yeah.

Just, like, fresh out the Lord and Taylor kind of.

And that was his drama teacher, and he was

only 14 years old. Is Lord and Taylor a women's store?

It's both. It is? I think it's out

of business, though. It was a bad reference to that.

And then, yeah,

she was his drama teacher. He was 14.

And she was how old? 40. Nuh-uh.
I swear. And that's and that's like official like that's like they don't they don't deny that so wait so they're they're they're they're 26 year age difference my parents were 32 years age difference so I can't really you know 14 year old well now here my my parents didn't meet until my mom was 30 that's my point it's very different okay so that's the age difference if you're 30 if you become an adult and you want to whatever i don't really care like if you want to be a 30 year old man you know 30 year old woman marrying a 70 year old man it's not my business you're both adults um and usually there's some like financial consideration whatever but 14 year old boy dowry maybe a dowry yeah but 14 year old boy is just weird and so the media media just kind of tried to sell it and yeah I just kind of looked at the story went through it there was so much evidence and there was a reason they started locking they're like locking up journalists like just so you know they started arresting people you don't do that you don't do that because someone's lying you know what I'm saying look that in a separate window look that up and then bring it up I'm gonna see this in 1993 at the age of 39 she met Brigitte Macron met the 15 year old Emmanuel Macron in La Providence High School and that's a lie Oh, look that up and then bring it up.
I'm going to see this. In 1993, the age of 39, she met, Brigitte Macron met the 15-year-old Emmanuel Macron in La Providence High School.
And that's a lie. He was 14 when he was in the play because they told the story about what play he was in.
So the journalists went back and they were like, he was 14 when he was in his play. Okay.
So it was like just little media lies. So one year is about 7% of his life though at that point.
So it's a decent amount. And everything sounds romantic when you're reading all this stuff too.
Where she was a teacher and was student and classmate of her daughter, Brigitte, divorced Ozier in 2006 and married Macron in 2007. Wow.
So they really fell into something. In December 2021, Natasha Ray and Amanda Roy broadcast unsubstantiated rumors online that Brigitte had never existed and that her brother Jean-Michel Chrogneau had changed gender and started using that name.
So what does this mean? So what they had done was what they started to do, and I show this in my series, is to make the mainstream media convince you that it was all a lie. They were suing people for defamation and winning.
And so they were like, obviously it's not true, but they were lying about why they were winning the defamation claim. So they were never winning on the substance.
Like you transitioned. They'd wait for someone to make a mistake of like, you know, not Brigitte McCrone as a man, but they said that Brigitte McCrone went to La Providence High School.
And like or like, you know, Brigitte McCrone's uncle was this. And then they would go and slap them with a defamation lawsuit and be able to prove that they made a mistake somewhere else.
And the press would just lie and pretend that like, well, they would tell you half a truth. Like they did get sued for defamation, but it wasn't regarding whether or not she was a man.
But isn't it just love that they love? I mean, so the part you're saying that's so obtuse is the fact that you felt like they were groomed kind of. Yeah.
Because if somebody who is a man or woman falls in love with somebody else. That's okay.
That's fine.

But this wasn't that.

And it's also because you can't then misrepresent yourself as like a Catholic, a strong Catholic who's leading a country.

People vote for reasons. So if you want to be an open transgendered person who likes 14-year-old boys and you decide to run and a country elects you, cool.

You know, that's their business.

Now, what age did they get married at?

They didn't get married when he was a child. No, they in 2007 and which is why old um way older well then that's kind of no but they were together they were not like they were together the whole time oh yeah yeah yeah they tell they are basically like she fell in love and couldn't resist anymore and then he went to a school and they tried to romanticize it but there's a lot more that went on here like i mean there's a ton of people around them that have then been arrested for um and this is pedophile crimes no it's like these are the i mean i only presented the facts because he sent me a legal threat okay like don't publish this series sort of a thing and we went back at him and we said mr mr mccrone we won't publish a single episode if you just answer this question what you know and we gave him 21 21 yes or no questions the first one was Brigitte Macron, born a biological male.

They came back and refused to answer.

They said they don't owe you an answer.

Now, that's stupid.

If you're going to tell me if this is causing you so much distress and defamation,

of course, the laws are if somebody tries to get the true answer from you,

you can't sue for defamation.

That's how it works in America.

But I could see somebody being like, oh, this is so problematic. But if I engage with it, it becomes even more problematic.
But if you're sending a 100 page letter, honey, you're already engaging. Right.
So they sent me a letter first. So it's ridiculous.
And then they said like, you know, emotional distress, all the stuff. Well, we said, OK, let's end this.
We're not interested in conspiracy theories. We'll end this.
You tell us, did Brigitte Macron live as a man named Jean-Michel Trogneau? Yes or no? They refused to answer.

You know, I'm like, okay, so what is it?

You can't have it both ways.

If you want this to come to an end, I have the platform to end that.

I will say we looked into the story.

Here are the responses we got.

Would you do that, you think?

Of course I would have done that.

It doesn't, like, help my platform to be caught in a lie.

Right.

Then people will lose trust in me.

You know what I'm saying?

So if they find out that I knowingly lied and she wrote and said,

no, I never lived as this person, whatever,

that would reflect poorly on me.

Right.

You know?

Yeah, I can't tell if I think,

if that happened,

would you engage or would you not engage?

What would you do there?

Because it has to be,

I mean, it's such a murder mystery kind of thing.

Series is fun.

God, it's very,

and since it's French,

they have all the stuff you can't pronounce that good.

I can't pronounce any of it.

Oh, I love that shit, dude.

And now I'm doing the Harvey series,

which is gonna, people are gonna go crazy.

But now, you had a series that also was about,

it was about Kamala Harris's-

Genealogy. Genealogy.
How did that end? Because the theory was what? Oh, she's just not black. The whole series started by accident.
She just like, when I say she, I meant the mainstream media just came for Janet Jackson. And you can't come for the Jackson family.
I grew up in a black household. You kind of look like a Jackson a little.
Thank you. Oh my gosh, thank you.
Stop. Shake it, shake it, babe.
God, it would be good. Wow, I'm just going to eat up.
I'm just going to, that compliment, I'm just going to let that hit. Yeah, that'd be awesome.
Candace Owens investigates Kamala Harris' claims about her black heritage, particularly focusing on a photograph Harris shared in her book where she posed with a woman Harris said was her grandmother. It was not her grandmother.
It was not, and you found that out for ended up finding it. I just knew.
And it was just like a vibe. Like I said, some of these things you just know.
Like you just, you can't explain it. Like when you're black, you just know certain things.
You know, like a fisherman, sees another fisherman in the wild sort of a thing. Oh yeah, black people can tell if you're not black.
Yeah, we just kind of know. Except for Mack McClung, who won three slam dunk in a row, dude.
Who did? So, Mack McClung. Who's he? And he's just the, he's the slam dunk champion.
He's won the three dunk competitions in a row in the NBA. And you can't tell what? I'm just saying, usually you can tell if a guy's culturally appropriating or not.
Right. But this dude is just, he just has it.
Is he black? Nope. Oh, I thought you were saying he's actually black.
But he could be drinking black blood or something. I have no idea.
He's obviously drinking black blood. I think we can go ahead and say that.
He's got more bunnies in the zoo, dude. That guy is just crazy.
Okay, but go back. So, yeah.
So the Kamala Chronicles just happened by accident because I was like, there's nothing about her that just signals to me that she's black and she was kind of running on being black and then we started our series and she dropped it she would not say she was black again she would not answer oh yeah she never said it again never called herself the first black nothing they stopped immediately because they I just realized they like come up with these books and people just don't ever actually prod the narrative and there was a ton of things that weren't making sense and so we got in touch with her uncle and he was like nope that person's not related to me nope he was like i it was crazy i just got that's me i get like i'll get into the weeds so what were the fun what was the final founding on that did you come to a conclusion yeah she's i mean she's mixed um her but she's not black and so running as a first black person was just completely crazy she's not mixed black like she's um she's no black at all you're saying she's Indian she's, I mean, she's mixed, but she's not black. And so running as a first black person was just completely crazy.
She's not mixed black. Like she's- She's no black at all, you're saying? She's Indian, Syrian, Jew, and Irish.
So she's un-black then? She's un-black. Wow.
Yeah, and she was running on like a black thing. That's what you're saying, huh? And it's tough because you can't see if somebody, I mean, I guess they should have like a black database or something, but I don't even, how much would that cost? We just know.
Yeah. We just know.
And maybe as a black person, you do just know. Yeah.
And these are series, right? You have one about Kamala. One about Brigitte.
Brigitte. And now the one that we're doing is the Harvey Weinstein files.
Harvey Weinstein files. And did he, somebody said that he emailed you from prison or something? No, it actually started, there was a random woman who had reached out to me and basically

said, you know, you're the only person that I think that would actually look into this

case beyond the media.

And I'll be honest, like when I, when they first contacted me, I was like convinced he

was guilty.

Cause like, how could, there was just so many people that were saying that he did this or

that.

And I'm like, someone somewhere has to be telling the truth.

And then when I got into the actual, after speaking to him, which was like a crazy conversation. You spoke to Harvey? Yeah, I've been speaking to Harvey for years now.
And it was a crazy conversation because there was no reason, we have nothing in common. Like Harvey, first and foremost, is like the number one donor to the ADL.
I'm like on their list. He's a huge Democratic donor.
I'm Republican. And he's still all of those things, which is like when we had our first conversation, he was just sort of like, who are you? Like, why do you exist? Did you reach out to him? No, that person put us on the phone.
I guess she was kind of lobbying him being like, you need to have someone who's an independent journalist look at this case, like, or it's never going to get a fair shake in the media because they have you as like you know the devil so that was like a super interesting conversation and we still have nothing in common but i am very good at being nuanced and a lot of people if you don't like trump then you are okay if he's wrongfully convicted they pick people's character and decide that they're okay with whatever happens to them and i'm kind of the opposite where i will be very be very nuanced and say, like, Harvey was immoral. Harvey was cheating on his wife.
Harvey was abusing his power as the guy in Hollywood. I do not believe, after looking at the case, that he has been—I do believe that he's wrongfully convicted.
And so it actually, as I was looking into this, his case in New York got overturned on appeal. appeal and so he's so it's going to be interesting to see what happens but he definitely um he knows where all the bodies are buried in hollywood too so he was an interesting guy to piss off because he was the phone call you know he's the he was the one phone call every a-lister made when they got themselves into trouble too and they all turned on him because he was kind of like the closer over there the siriano or whatever and when the me too movement happened i think men were scared so a lot of them turned on him because – He was kind of like the closer over there, the Siriano or whatever.
And when the Me Too movement happened, I think men were scared. So a lot of them turned on him because what other option did you have? They had woman after woman after woman coming out.
And men could not stand up in that environment when it first happened. And so I think a lot of them turned on him because they just were – it was basic self-preservation.
Oh, I checked my penis in the hospice, I remember. It was just a tough time for guys.
Yeah, you were afraid to shake dudes' hands. I remember that.
You were afraid to even be, like, it was scary. And you would try to speak up for friends that you didn't think did something or that you did.
And then, like, you would just be bastardized online. Like, I remember there was, like, famous, like, celebrities who would, like, tag me and other friends in tweets and be like they knew everything just shit like what are you fucking taught you we do not know you know just but crazy shit and careers were being ended like on a blink of a tweet she'd be like he looked at me funny and they would be like he's no he stepped down from the corporation today I'm like over the tweet what's happening here it was wild times i always stood up against the me too movement i was very adamantly against it vocal against it and people on the left and the right condemned me for it for my stance on me too i think the me too probably i think it was definitely got everything goes overboard right out of control i mean we need due process that's like you can't just tweet something and say theoban did this and then he loses everything you got to actually have due process oh you see male animals hitchhiking down 65 like i gotta get out of this town what do you fucking do like it's just fucking getting hot in the kennel brother it was crazy but yeah so i think i think me doing this is because now that everyone's done you know snorting the me too lines coming down from the high, it's good to be like, hey, so you remember when we were doing that thing and everyone was just kind of saying everyone was guilty on the basis of an allegation? Let's actually go back and look at one of these cases.
And you're looking at Harvey Weinstein case. It's the case.
It is the case. You believe he was innocent.
I believe he was wrongfully convicted. I don't want to say Harvey Weinstein is a moral or an innocent man because that sounds like I'm saying he behaved well.
But there is a difference between being immoral and being a person who abuses their power and being a person who was running the peninsula like his own personal brothel and being a cold-blooded rapist. And so I want to show people because I was shocked opening these documents and text messages and emails and reading what these women were saying after their rapes.
And like, you know, there is a certain way that I would speak to my rapist. And that is not at all.
Right. And so some of these a lot of this stuff, public domain.
No, because the media would not report on it. And it's so similar to what we saw with this, like whole Blake Lively thing going on, where once they drop the article, the New York Times removes context.
York Times removes context like it's like okay well if we had had those messages that she sent to Justin Baldoni people would not have instantly tried to cancel Justin Baldoni because they would have said oh this needs context and now it's time we're now in the era of context so we need to go backwards and look at that most crucial case because that was the beginning of it all and he took the fall for the Me Too movement. And he's still a very powerful person.

Like it was like, we have gotten into it.

Like I'm just like arguing in prison with Harvey Weinstein.

And you can see who he is and who he was.

But I just believe in justice.

If I hate you, I will still defend you

if I think you're wrongfully convicted.

I hated Matt Lauer.

And I was like, come on guys,

calling him a rapist because he had an affair with his intern.

I mean, women are just always so hopeless.

Why even hire an intern?

Yeah, I know.

But the men get powerful.

That's a joke.

I think, yeah.

And that's-

For men now, though, I mean, like, what is the incentive to hire women after the Me Too

era?

If we don't go back and course correct, I would be scared.

I will say this.

As a guy.

I was afraid to bring female comics on the road because it was spooky.

Yeah.

And you'd be like, well, what if-

One wrong joke.

Right.

Thank you. I was afraid to bring female comics on the road because it was spooky.

Yeah.

And you would be like, well, what if. One wrong joke.
Right. What if I look at them a certain way? I mean, I'm in like, we just did a movie.
A friend of mine and I just self-funded our own film and put it together and everything. And so we just got done doing it.
And I was like, on set, I was like, oh, I got to be – can't joke around, got to be careful what you're saying. Or I would yell out, that's a joke, right, if I said something that I thought might be obtuse, you know? That's what I mean.
That's not fun. Like it's like we need to go back to being able to like make fun of women.
And also, by the way, the end result, women don't like that. We don't like men that are castrated and men that now won't ask women on dates, men that won't hit on women.
So we created a whole culture and now women are frustrated by the culture. Everyone's a wimp, you know? Good point.
It's like, okay, cool. Ask her out, tell her she looks nice.
And guess what, girls, you can just say, no, I'm not into you. Like he can suffer the humiliation of thinking he had a chance, but why are we ruining like natural relations between men and women? it's nice for guys to hold doors ask you out make you feel pretty and yeah get you a chocolate or something yeah yeah definitely when I was young yeah you give a girl a chocolate or something take a girl out for a fish fillet or whatever yeah for McDonald's oh no like a real one or whatever dude my mommy's ordered the fish fillets but fucking...
I need to know, what's your meal at McDonald's? I judge everybody by this, so be very careful. Me, I do a double hamburger, which isn't on the menu, but you can get it with pickles and ketchup.
Do you add any Big Mac sauce to that? No, I don't know who's making it back there. It depends.
If Big Mac himself is back there, I'll take a couple ounces. That's an okay order.
I mean, it's not fun, but it's okay. Yeah.
It's kind of sad, though, but I'll tell you this. I used to get two milks with it.
Milks? Yeah. What in the Theobahn world? Be right here.
What? Oh, hell yeah, boy. What? Two milks? See me in the streets.
You don't know me. I'm the T.I.
of fucking Mickey D's orders, baby. Look at that little milk jug right there.
And that's what he used to call my sister, little milk jug. He's the only person that's ever, that's what he used to call my sister, little milk jug.
Because she built like that. She built like that.
Click on the third one right there. Nobody in the history of McDonald's ever got the milk jug but Theovan.
They kept that on the menu for Theovan. You can't order more than two.
That's the crazy thing. crazy thing what? yeah that's a limit because they only have like 10 because no one orders them so if you order more than two they've been sitting in the we ride here I'm just saying we get it how we live wait stop a double cheeseburger with a double milk jug? oh double milk jug baby give me two of them and the lady be like you really want two'll be like, yeah.
And then we would laugh a little bit. I tip her.
But yeah, that's how I like mine. Like that double milk jug.
I used to get an apple pie, but I just, I don't want all that sugar anymore. But my mother, I forgot to tell you this.
That is a B.O.V.A.N. order, man.
That is right there. My mother, she would let us order.
And then she would, she'd be like, she would order the McFish or whatever. But it would almost be like she was ordering a special.
She'd be like, they'll have this and this and this. What do you want? She'd be like, and I'll have the McFish.
It was almost like it was like. The adult order.
Yeah, like quiet down. Let me do business here with this person.
Have the McFish. Yeah, see, I feel like I can't trust the McFish.
That upsets me. Hell no.
She has the wrong order and I'm not here to respect your mother but I would speak to her about that. Of course.
I've never looked at an ocean and at a McDonald's and be like, yeah, these things should know each other. There is not a yellow brick road that connects those bitches.
So it always blew, and she would look at us as if she was disappointed. Like that's what my mother would scoff.
So I'm like, you motherfuckers don't know about a McFish. Nobody should be ordering the McFish.
I want to be very clear. I agree.
Like you get like a heisey orange. It's obviously delicious.
And the McMuffin, sausage, egg and cheese muffins. Oh, is that what you get? Amazing.
They're hash browns in the morning. They're fantastic.
They're absolutely fantastic. And you know what? RFK Jr.
is bringing back beef tallow, so we're going to be able to get some beef tallow fries. That's what I heard.
Who's doing it first? Shake Shack. Shake.
No, no, no, no. Steak and Shake.
Oh, good for them. And I've never had it.
I've never had Steak and Shake, but I don't even know where to find a Steak and Shake because I'm from the north.

You'll get them.

Have you had Steak and Shake?

No, but I say go door to door if you're Steak and Shake.

I don't even.

I used to sell door to door Italian with this guy for a little bit.

Do you think that mainstream media has an overall goal or has had an overall goal besides just capitalism?

Do you really think that?

I think they were just in service to the state.

I think the whole idea of the fourth estate was fake. Like they weren't here to defend the people.
They were here to defend the state, at least since the 60s. That's what they've been doing.
And now they are – where they are right now is in survival mode. They don't know what to do.
They don't have to do with the new media. I think they're going to try to create backdoor ways to reacquire their talent.
I don't know if you follow the recent deal with Fox News building, which is crazy. They purchased Red Seat Ventures.
Do you work with Red Seat Ventures? Red Seat? Red Seat. So that's a no.
You don't work with them. No, I don't.
So they were doing advertising for independent podcasters. And we had spoken to them and we were just kind of like, no, we kind of broke away from corporation structure.
We don't really want to like, we want to do everything in house sort of a thing. And then they purchased Red Seat Ventures.
So they were able to kind of backdoor reacquire Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, everyone they fired, which is kind of crazy. Like think about how weird that is.
I was sitting here looking at this deal and I'm like, didn't you just fire Tucker? And now you're like, why don't you guys just admit you were wrong? Just come out and be like, you know what? Tucker's got the juice. Oh, I see.
Instead of just admitting it publicly one way, they would rather lose it and then go back. So there's all these articles.
Fox is interested in the podcast world. And so they reacquired via just the, I'm not saying that they own the Tucker Carlson podcast.
They don't, but Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly and who's the third one? Bill O'Reilly, who they literally fired all these people,

were all using Red Seat Ventures.

And Red Seat Ventures, their pitch,

because I remember that I spoke to them,

was kind of like,

eventually all roads lead to Red Seat Ventures

because you realize you need somebody

to do your advertising deals.

Like you're going independent,

but you don't want to handle all the advertisers, whatever.

And so they literally, yeah,

if you look up Red Seat Ventures just in Google,

you'll see like the recent deal.

Fox News acquired Red Seat Ventures.

And I'm like,

Thank you. And so they literally, if you look up Red Seat Ventures just in Google, you'll see the recent deal, Fox News acquired Red Seat Ventures.

And I'm like, okay, that's just – it's an interesting – it's objectively an interesting move because it kind of signals to me that you wanted to reacquire your talent.

You know what I'm saying? Fox Corporation today announces acquisition of Red Seat Ventures, a leading business in the creator economy that powers talent across a range of genres as they build their direct-to-consumer media business. Does it say what talent it works with them? Yeah, scroll down.
So Chris Balfe is the other of the founding partners. I would go down.
Chris Balfe and Kevin Balfe. I'm assuming brothers or husbands.
Yeah, I would go out of PR Newswire because that's just like them writing it and they're not going to say what talent was with it I would go to Reuters yeah they would probably have yeah Reuters is that how you say that? you know I've been saying Reuters it could not be right but that will tell you that like you're it's just me there so they've been interested but like yeah it was Tucker Carlson Megyn Kelly and oh here you go Carlson Kelly Sean Ryan oh no that's just saying that we reached millions of subscribers daily but yeah they had um uh you'll bring o'reilly kelly and carlson back into murdoch's fold so i didn't like that at all for like carlson and kelly and o'reilly because i'm like whoa you fired me homie you know what i mean like hold on let's be very clear you shamed me publicly you fired me you said whatever i wasn't a part of this whatever it was and now you're kind of like trying to build this little backward network no you need to say you're sorry first wow but i'm sure that like obviously the red seat will have had a deal with them that will expire and what will happen is those people just won't renew if they don't want to because they might say um no you literally oh i see do you know what i'm saying so yeah so they're they're the middle guy but i thought it was an interesting move without saying you're sorry trying to reacquire someone well i do think it's interesting that some political areas have some political some shows have become more uh have slowly tried to like slurp on a more of a conservative side like um bill myer did that well over the past four or five years you started to see him like uh he he recognized like where the wind was blowing just yeah he was able to see it ahead um do you think america is a place that everybody is just here and you can be here and be not even supporting america that's what's interesting to me about america that's what i start to recognize like oh well some people are here but they are here, but they don't, they're not America first, right? Or they may not be. Do you think America's always kind of been that? And that's what it is.
It's kind of this halfway house for everywhere of like the whole planet. Or do you feel like it's this other, like you have to buy into this, you know, red, white, and blue, stars stars and stripes what i would say is right now america's kind of in the midst of this identity crisis and that's in large part because it's been conditioned now by the media and the school system in partnership to kind of tell people you should hate your country and the reality is most americans never leave their country they know nothing they have nothing to weigh it against and they sort of blindly accept this narrative that like we're just these bad guys who did bad things and there's been sort of this like american shaming that's taken place um and it's been effective that began to sort of snap back with trump culture and that's kind of what people were missing it wasn't about when make america great it's like allow me to just feel good as a american like why can't i like being american why can't what's wrong with just being

straight like it's like we celebrate everything but like it we almost started like hating normalcy

which is like a weird thing to say but like if you were gay if you were anything is something

going on whatever it is handicap it was like yes yes and then if you're just like yeah i'm just

like a straight white dude it was like oh my gosh what what do you mean that's not queer then

the everyone is handicapped it was like yes yes and then if you're just like yeah i'm just like a straight white dude it was like oh my gosh what what do you mean that's not queer then yeah yeah you guys became the queers yeah and so that was weird and the american flag became this right wing symbol which i was like what's happening and it was like don't doesn't anybody see that like don't you notice like i'm you know like i wish were more parties. I don't think there's enough parties that I think you can't pigeonhole people in a Republican or Democrat most of the time.
I don't think you'd ever be able to pigeonhole me that way. I think there should be more political parties so we feel like you can find one that fits you.
Because it's just this dirty Cinderella where neither one of these fucking clogs is really helping me get down the stairs anymore, it feels like. But you're right.
You said we were saying the flag became the symbol of like – And it's like nobody else noticed that? Like that's our country's flag, right? It's like what's wrong with this? Yeah. That's what I mean.
We got crazy. We got absolutely crazy.
And so we were in the midst of an identity crisis, but it was being was a so it was a social engineering it happened intentionally they wanted people to feel that way

and i think now it's snapping back and we're starting to realize the problem is it are these

people who are making us feel like we had nothing in common and we have a lot more in common than we

don't and so there's like we're now we're going through like this period of healing which has been

nice and we were kind of talking about this off camera where it seems like the right and the left

are finding things to agree on and realizing that these caricatures of what it means to be a left

Be sure to subscribe to work, have a job, have low gas prices, live in a safe place, live in a safe place. It's not that hard, right? Right.
Yeah, it's called Nashville. But I will say this.
I think, yeah, if you have an idea, right, that you think, well, we have to get rid of this group of people or these people aren't, that is never going to be America, right? America is always, I mean, like, when it comes to like races right? It's all, it's just, it's going to be a melting pot, right? So you always have to think with the goal at the end is that everybody's going to be here. Yeah.
I mean, but also we should be clear, like not everybody should be here if they don't appreciate what it means to be an American. You should not be allowed to be here.
Like there is like, if you have resentment for America and at the same time you want to come to America, we have a problem. But then people say you have the freedom to think and feel whatever you want, right? Yeah, you also have the freedom to stay in your own country.
Right. That's cool.
You can hate America, but we need to have a process where people that resent America are not coming into America. Like we do have a value system.
Like America was founded on Christian principles and things of that nature. And they are like, no, there's nothing.
You can be whatever. It's like, no, you, you, you can't be whatever.
Actually, you can't just be whatever and come to America. You know, maybe you and I have that privilege.
We were born here that if we get angry at our country, we can voice that. But you could be Muslim or Taiwanese.
You could be. Right.
But if you're coming here and we're able to decide whether or not we want you to be here, these things now, we need to make sure that culturally, whatever it is that you believe and whatever your ideas are, however you view America, that now becomes relevant. We need to have a system that works.
Yeah, I do think it would be not. But then it's like, how do you get into that without communism though? Look at Japan.
You know, look at Japan. Japan is, let's be very clear.
It's, we are the only country that has this idea that everyone should come here. It's insane, obviously, because that doesn't work.
Oh, I agree. I agree.
It's like America gets held in the media like, be welcoming and do this and do that. But then meanwhile, other countries get to be, have followed their letter to the law.
And we're held by our own media a lot of times to this ridiculous why don't we have a letter to our law you know we should all at least have the common ground that America is first whether we like some things about it or don't like some things about it because if not it feels like you're just one of the ops you know and multiculturalism doesn't actually work and I hate to tell people that I know it's like a fluffy dream. It doesn't work.
What do you mean by that? You have to have a culture. Like there are certain cultures that cannot coincide with one another, right? So like let's say, for example, your culture believes that, you know, children should be able to make decisions about their sexuality, right? That actually conflicts with my culture.
And so I actually do not want you in my country. I don't.
Well, you may not want that person making the law, but they're welcome to be in their house and think and feel however they want. Well, no, I'm talking about like people that believe that like a nine-year-old girl can have sex with an adult.
It's like that just conflicts with our culture. Right, I agree.
So we don't believe in that. And so this whole idea of multiculturalism is no matter what you think, we can find a home and you can kind of build your own nest here.
It's like, no, actually, I'm comfortable with us saying you can't do that. I'm comfortable with we're going to send you the front lines because of your opinions.
You know what I mean? And you've got to go fight some war. And yeah, with no helmets.
And so that's what it is.

We have to define what it is that we believe.

And it's been increasingly difficult because people are forgetting just a couple of generations ago what we agreed on in America.

Our parents were religious.

You forget that.

Like, what is the story of the South?

Like, what is the story of the Bible Belt?

Why is it called the Bible Belt?

You know?

Well, I mean, then that goes to a question.

Do you think America is a Christian nation? Yes. Do you think it, or do you think it's more of a moral nation? And do you think that that's eroding? I mean, I think some of that could be a whole nother conversation probably.
No, yeah, it could be another conversation, but I think America was, is a Christian nation that has forgotten that in many ways and forgotten why we were so much more cohesive and comprehensive when we had faith at the center of what we did. And when, once we started removing faith and I'm talking about removing the Bible from the classroom, which was done in the early seventies, if I'm correct, department of education, kind of a thing, people got lost real quick.
And so I, I guess what I guess what I'm arguing for is, is a theocracy, which means you're going to run it a theocracy because i'm theo yeah damn dude i fucking i'm gonna miss this taxi i ordered in a little bit i don't know if i can handle all that dude we need a theocracy um yeah you know i do think that i do like there was something nice about having structure in the schools but then a lot of that got challenged yeah i think it it is. I think America does need to figure out, well, what is our footprint? Who are we? What do we want to stand up for and believe in and believe these are the things that define our country? I believe that we're a Christian nation.
That used to be a thing. Before the flag became racist, we were all saying one nation under God.
Then we became this nation that became this nation that was one nation like over God. Like people are become their own gods or worshiping Hollywood.
It's like crazy. We become like a pagan culture.
Well, Hollywood is, you know, it's celebrity. It has those things that are addictive, you know? And I think a lot of that is demonic, you know, and the Bible will tell you all of those things about idolatry.
Kids would have been learning that, you know, I grew up learning the Bible. Well, what, what is, what is a demon what is a demon right if you have you you speak often about like you used to have addictions and things like that and when when i grew up in a household people people in my family still have you know addiction issues it it's a demon you know well hollywood gets it gets pinpointed a lot because it's the glossy thing it's babylon yeah it's yeah.
So I think they love the culture of excess. Everything that the Bible tells us not to celebrate is like, becomes like the thing.
And that's why it's a Hollywood Babylon. You know, it's like, they're trying to stay young forever.
That's weird. Like, why don't you want to age? You know, they're look at, and they look crazy.
Everybody wants to be fresh. I think you want to be fresh, but like, I'm not afraid of aging.
Like I'm not,'m not like i think it's look at these when they look terrifying and they're holding and stretched and it's like dude you could just be 80 like you know you know what i'm saying somebody look like a damn doe or something that's me yeah you look like somebody put a couple eyes in a like carrying after yourself in a pizza dough or whatever yeah somebody glued a damn snout on a pizza lips these girls are 22 looking like they're 50 now that's dude I'll say this I seen a girl right her lips look like they were getting ready to be like they'd been in a burn like just like inflated to probably six maybe 14 psi or whatever and it's like what are we fucking doing and if you kiss somebody like that it feels insane and then they put all that glossner on them i've always wondered what the kiss feels like is it like weird well yeah it's weird but then they trampoline they polish them up with that glossner no it's like it's almost like you're sucking on something it's almost like a shrimp that won't fucking give up that's what it's like it's like trying to eat two shrimps that won't give up. I always wondered.
There's probably more we can talk about. Yeah, I do want to say a Jewish friend of mine set this up in case anybody gets.
I want to be clear. I'm friends with so many Jewish people in Hollywood.
I am too. So that's why I'm like, it's so just disingenuous.
Every time we talk to them, they all agree on this topic of Bibi Netanyahu. They will support Israel, but they'll be like, they can critique him.
And so we need to normalize that. Don't try to tell black people they have to support BLM.
Don't tell Jewish people they have to support Israel. Allow people to be individuals.
Allow people to say what they think is right or is wrong without trying to pigeonhole them according to their identity. I appreciate you coming on and talking i'm excited to hear about the weinstein thing um good luck with the presidency will you homeschool your children will you find schools for them what are you doing we're thinking homeschooling no way who's gonna do the professoring though me until like they get to like sixth grade math and then i'm gonna be like wait a second but um put the husband in get a tutor yeah oh my husband's excellent at math but he wouldn't he wouldn't do it what does he like to do your husband we talked about this he sends war letters he's english oh yeah he just sits in his library and sends war letters and laments the lost colonies i think he married me because he's trying to build some back roads and to to the uk reacquiring america i think it's not over like the revolutionary war is not over until it's.
You know what I'm saying? Oh, it never ends. He's an agent.
He's an agent, a British agent trying to reacquire the colonies. He slipped once.
He called me a colonist. And I said, ooh.
Kind of romantic. Yeah.
He's kind of romantic. He's darkly romantic.
Yeah. The colonists.
Love, you never know where you'll find it.

It's interesting.

He keeps me, he keeps me straight.

I'm straight and narrow.

Yeah.

I'm like,

why do we got to file these taxes?

He's like,

you can't block you.

Why do you guys got to try to not file your taxes?

And I was like,

I just,

I don't want to give this money to the government.

He's like,

well,

you got to give the money to the government.

So do you think that Elon has,

that he is like for the people?

I'm probably, I'm the only person always, I don't feel, I have a weird feeling about Elon. I don't know why.
Curious about it. I just, he, Sam Altman, the AI crowd just freaks me out on a spiritual level.
And sometimes it's just your gut and I'm going with my gut. I think gut is God intuition and they just freak me the hell out.
Well, here's the thing I've thought about this. They even all look weird.
Like they look like they're robots, you know? Well, here's the thing. They come from another planet.
A lot of the inventors and creators now have, and I think a lot of people would say that they possibly have some type of autism, right? A little bit of it, right? And I think that's not debated by a lot of them. They would say that, right? That's pretty normal.
But a lot of autistic people, they are good with concepts, right? But they're not as good a lot of times with emotions right not in the practical way that people without autism seem to be so that's what i'm saying we're getting more products that are created that have less emotion in them and are more just practical robotic right because that's the type of people that the creativity is going through yeah and that and that scares me. I think they're like, well, why do we need a woman when we can create an artificial womb? Yeah.
Yeah, I don't like that. I feel like we should maybe pause and think about that before we all sign up.
Yeah, you don't want to be at the club and you're just grinding up on some electronic womb in the corner. That's how I feel.
I feel like that's, we're going to get with these people. And he has a lot of kids.

Shake it like a dog,

baby,

do what you do.

That song comes on and people are just shaking,

just grinding up against like some electric womb.

We have to put a quarter in it or whatever to get to line up.

Yeah.

Line up to get pregnant sort of a thing.

I don't like any of it.

It makes me scared and they just make me uncomfortable.

And I,

that's all I could say.

I'm like,

listen,

I know I don't have,

like you say, I don't have the information,

but I have the intuition

that we're barreling towards this AI future

and the lack of emotion

just makes me uncomfortable.

I'm like, okay, but these are humans.

They're like, but here's how we can solve

the human problem.

Yeah.

Maybe they are aliens.

Press one, yeah.

I mean, yeah, it's, I don't know.

It's fascinating. Candace Owens, thanks for your time.
Congrats on this. When are we going to see this baby? May 4th.
May the 4th be with you. The Ides of May.
Not really, but... Sorry, it's Ides of March.
Maypole. What's May 5th? Not the Ides.
What's May 5th? The Maypole, isn't it?

The Ides of March 15th.

Oh, that's Cinco de Mayo.

Oh, yeah.

You're thinking of tacos.

That's what I'm thinking of.

Yeah, yeah.

He said, what's May 5th?

What's May 5th?

Cinco de Mayo.

Yeah.

Oh, it could be Latino, huh?

If you and a white man had a Mexican baby, dude, that's AI.

Best of luck.

Thank you so much for hanging out with me. Thank you for having me.
Now I'm just floating on the breeze And I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be cornerstone Oh, but when I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found. I can feel it in my bones, but it's gonna take