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I am thankful for him and Jamie for welcoming me here. The first half of this episode was on his channel, and the second half of the episode is here now today's guest is the powerful joe rogan thanks man nice to see you bro good to see you too yeah man we had to see you, bro.
Good to see you, too. Yeah, man.
We had a fun time. We were just talking about how if we had a camera on us when we were in Vegas having dinner a couple weeks ago, that one night, bro, we were so silly.
We were dying laughing. After UFC? Dying laughing.
Yeah, your buddies were there. One of them, there was pro pool players? Yes.
Yeah. Jeremy Jones and Carl Boyce.
And they were, they had been swimming in a pool of beer. They had been playing in a deep end of a pool of beer.
They were there for six hours of the fights drinking. They were cooking.
Because they got there with me, so they started watching the fights at like 3 30 p.m yeah oh during that chris wyden

fight one of them kept yelling hole in one over and over again so yeah i knew that they were

fucking hole in one yeah i mean they were just getting pretty cooked up well that's unfortunate

yeah dude that was fun that dinner was fun it was fake that place was fancy in there

um but it was a good time man you just got back from scotland yeah well Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha want to do an impression of it i'll fuck it up but i like it over there it's beautiful would you like was there i think that it's like it's one of the most beautiful places but it's like very lightly populated i almost don't want to talk about it because it's so cool because there's not a lot of people there oh yeah but it's also there's like some shit there that's so old they had uh some guide stones on this property and uh they said i go how old are these things they're like thousands of years old we don't even know don't know who put them there don't know why they're there so these like four thousand five thousand year old stones that are sticking out of the ground they have a stone circle there that's older than stonehenge it's crazy yeah yeah stonehenge is crazy dude i remember when um in school they would teach us like stonehenge it's crazy who knows what happened

you know yeah like smurfs aliens like they had all this crazy shit they would teach you and then they taught you about that in school yeah yeah smurfs or just everybody didn't know what it was about right but then stonehenge is by smurfs jamie did you get that in ohio did they teach you about it all at the same time like him probably this is during the 80s bro early 90s but then we went there one time we were touring

and we drove by and literally they had I learned about it all at the same time like him probably. Yeah, this is during the 80s, bro.
Early 90s.

But then we went there one time.

We were touring and we drove by.

And literally they had an exit for Stonehenge.

And it was just right there.

It was like a rest area.

It was just like right off the highway.

And when you went there, was it impressive?

No, it was like I was impressed because I'd learned.

They didn't give a fuck.

There's like people over there just like changing their kids in front of it and stuff on the ground. Like people didn didn't give a shit.
You'd walk up to it and touch it, right? It's right there, dude. They had a sign that was like, I don't even think it said, please don't touch.
It was just something more vague than that. Did you ever see the Georgia Guidestones? Mm-mm.
The Georgia Guidestones were this thing that I don't know if they know who built it. Do they know who funded that thing? I don't think so.
I don't think they were funded yet. The Georgia Guidestones, somebody spent a lot of money to make these giant stone statues with the guides to how to keep a civilization intact.
Oh, like the rules? Yeah. Oh, wow.
Yeah. it's written in a bunch of different languages So what is it like so somebody blew it up man? No.
Oh, yeah, let's sit down the bottom Somebody somebody blew it up and then they decided after the person blew up part of it to destroy it all Which I don't understand that logic why they wouldn't just rebuild it didn't you just rebuild it? So a mysterious monument meant to guide into an age of reason was destroyed after an apparent bombing. And that right there is like a perfect example of existence, it feels like.
How about just leave it there? Okay, June in 1979, a man going by the pseudonym of R.C. Christian approached the Elberton Granite Finishing Company with the task of building a monument.

He said that no one was ever to know his true identity or the group that he was representing or that of the group that he was representing. He seemed to have an endless supply of money to fund the project.

And by the terms of the legal contract, all plans had to be destroyed after completion and all information about him withheld from the public.

So the stones were finished in 1980. They carry a tablet in the front proclaiming, let these be guide stones to an age of reason.
Engraved in the stones are 10 guidelines meant to reestablish the planet and society, perhaps after an apocalypse. They're written in eight different languages, English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindu, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese, and...
Wow. Solid laws.
Yeah, do you think... That's solid.
Yeah, it seems like a great plan. Do you think that humanity is supposed to reach this place where we kind of get it all figured out? Or do you think it's always just this constant ebb and flow of like well i think step forward step back or two steps forward step back we were talking about on the podcast like what's happening in terms of like people slowly turning into genderless aliens yeah you know i think i think that's probably really what's going on i don't think humanity ever gets together i.
I think humanity stops being humanity. Because I think what keeps us from getting it together, a lot of it, is if you think about the horrors of society, like violence, war, thievery, like stealing resources, all that stuff, imprisoning people, corruption, all those things are like, those are built in prim Primal behaviors in human beings especially with unchecked power and I think that as long as we're just human beings We're gonna have those things we'll have less and less of them We have way less now than we had during fucking can't King Henry the eighth like back during King Henry the eighth You couldn't have a podcast he would fucking kill you when he wanted to get rid of his wives He he just chopped their fucking heads off.
Let me get a new one. Get rid of her.
Off with her head. You couldn't do that now.
That was the thing, right? Was it Henry VIII that was off with her head? Wasn't he the guy? He had like a few of them. He would see it.
Now it would be, his wife would make a TikTok about it in a heartbeat, I feel like. Or her sister would.
Oh yeah. She would like that motherfucker.
There was's nothing wrong with her head he said her head was cursed henry is lying yeah yeah nowadays are different man so there's like that's like stephen pinker's work if you follow his work on violence and crime people always want to think that violence and crime is more now than ever before but the reality is when you look at the course of human history It's there's never been a more safe time to be alive than right now What do you think it looks like coming up? Do you think like people start to raise like if fear if they people continue to be so like full of fear Do we do people like resort back to like their tribal nature or what kind of starts to happen? They definitely do if the power goes out. The only thing that keeps society together is power.
As soon as power goes out, you have no electricity, you have no cooling. So you can't stay in places where it's too hot and you can't live in places where it's too cold.
Yeah. You're in a bad spot there.
So then if you're living in a place where it's too cold, you're heavily dependent upon firewood. So a big part of your day is getting firewood.
You have to make sure you have enough. If you're living in Siberia, you have to have a fucking shit pile of firewood and you never let that fire go out.
I'd get a bunch. Ever.
You need to have a bunch. I would.
I'd get there early. You gotta keep that fucking fire going, man.
Because if you're stuck out there and it's 70 degrees below zero, like you'll die. Dude, imagine you fall asleep and it fucking goes out and then you have to wake up the other people And a lot of these guys aren't using matches to start fires either because you know That's one of the things that survival so tell you it's like you're gonna run out of matches You should learn how to start a fire without matches So you gotta learn how to start a fire with steel and flint and I don't know how it's so fucking not easy There's some fire starters you can get like they're pretty good have you seen people do like when you go hunting and stuff you have I've done yeah I've started fires with these little flint sticks so it's like it's like a piece of steel and a piece of flint and there's these little things called fire starters and some people make them to one of the ways they make them is they take cotton balls, like cotton swabs, and they soak them in Vaseline.
And so then you take tinder. So you have like some people use steel wool.
Oh, yeah. They use different things that you can make it with like shavings and dry the shavings out.
And then you slowly get little onto those shavings and then once you get it going then you put some little sticks on then you put some bigger sticks on now you have a fire yeah and they say that you should know how to do that because you don't want to be on that last match going fuck fuck yeah you have to know how to actually start a fire the best way is with tools i tried to start a fire when i was in the boy sc with the bow. I don't know if you ever did that one.
There's a stick and you wrap it. Oh, yeah, and you do it like that or whatever? Back and forth and back and forth.
Like Cotton Eye Joe or whatever? I got it to smoke. I got blackness came out of it.
I never got a fire. Damn.
I never got it to the point where I could light something on fire there. Yeah.
But I was also dumb. I didn't realize you got to put little tiny pieces of wood down in there once it starts going then blow on it i didn't i was i thought it was a fire was gonna get going just fucking go huh i thought that thing was gonna light fire eventually didn't what um in scotland did you see any good um music acd sees from scotland oh yeah that's what i was thinking of earlier when we're talking for that's not them is that them fire acdc is yeah you son of a bitch uh they keep changing it they keep changing it they keep changing it it's like berenstein bears you know it's like the mandela effect yeah that's what it is what um yeah what's a famous band that is from scotland then take that back two of the members are from glasgow so oh jimmy came at you hard there uh what else do they sing acdc long way to the top yeah back in black yeah hell's bells yeah a whole to the Top? Yeah.
Back in Black? Back in Black. Hell's Bells.
Yeah, Hell's Bells. Back in Black.
Yeah. Whole Lotta Rosie.
I haven't heard that one, I don't think. Whole Lotta Woman.
Yeah, you have. You have.
Whole Lotta Rosie. You know that song.
Maybe I have heard it. You never heard that song? Come on, son.
Say it again? Listen, give me a little whole lot of Rosie. Whole lot of...
You gotta hear this.

You never heard this song?

There's no way you never heard this song.

This is a Bon Scott ACDC classic, the early days.

Black and black.

That's the shit we used to listen to.

Wasn't it, Bon Scott? I never heard it Ain't exactly small That's crazy dude Come on Those were the fucking days dude It's just picking up Give me a little more We're in trouble already We're in trouble It's picking up. Give me a little more.
We're in trouble already. It's his show.
We're in trouble. It's your show.
It's your show. That's true.
We're in trouble, dude. Yeah, we probably won't be able to play that.
But what was it called? Hold on a row. Edit that out.
They will come for you. Did you see that Facebook put out new standards today for content moderation? No, I did see that they're supposed uh that dana white was doing something with mark zuckerberg uh-huh and that they were part of his board now and that they were gonna allow more free speech that's what they said they're gonna allow more free speech and allow people to not be restricted to talk about things were hot button issues before it's great and they're gonna remove they're gonna remove the content moderation for a type of community notes Facebook and Instagram get rid of fact checkers meta problem with fact checkers is There's been a lot of fact checkers that were just wrong and it's very ideologically based Especially anything that has to do with climate change or anything that has to do with vaccines or anything that has to do with anything pharmacologically.
Yeah, it says in a video posted alongside a blog post by the company on Tuesday, chief executive Mark Zuckerberg said third party moderators were too politically biased and it was time to get back to our roots around free expression. But do you think they're real? I wonder if there's something else going on because I find it hard to believe they're really willing to give up that bias, you know? Well, it's probably not good for business to keep that bias.
They're in a business. Their business is social media.
And if Twitter sets a standard, which it clearly does. So Twitter is the most wild of all big platforms.
You can get away with a lot of shit on Twitter. Yeah.
That has not been the case with Facebook or Instagram. And if Twitter continues to have the kind of engagement that it has because it lets people go wild, and I know there's a lot of criticisms about even Twitter's content moderation, but everybody has to admit it's certainly better than everywhere else.
Yeah. It's like there's a dispute now about whether or not people should be demonetized right whether uh if you're allowed to speak on the platform if they can say you're saying things we don't like we're going to be able to take away your ability to make money but you're kind of censoring people in a way because you're you're enforcing self-censorship because they're not going to say those inflammatory things anymore because then Then they need a Adrian Dittman account, right? Right Talk some shit blow a little steam off.
Well, I wonder a little shit about the government is a What if a but how do we know that the information in AI isn't being adjusted to fit whatever they wanted to say? Like that's what I wanted. I always thought like what is thought.
It certainly is. That was the problem with Google's Gemini when it first came out.
Google's Gemini, when it first came out, they said, make images of Nazi soldiers. They had multicultural Nazi soldiers.
Did you see that? Uh-uh. Oh, you have to see it.
You have to see it. You're going to freak out.
They had all types of Nazi soldiers? They had black Nazi soldiers. They had a Native American Nazi.
Oh, at least everybody was doing it. They had Chinese Nazis.
It was so dumb. But it's like that's when you try to be woke and you attach it to everything.
Look, oh, well, you're not representing reality. I said show me Vikings, not Chinese midgets.
Like what are you doing? Like what are you doing? Why are you showing me this? it's woke is not reality and if you do that with ai like look at this look at those images look at that it looks like guys from nigeria the lower left-hand corner look at the native american lady with her braids that's so crazy that's a nazi soldier he's a cutie kind of she is kind of cute but look at that that's nuts all nuts. So if that's artificial intelligence, that's not intelligent at all.
You're ignoring the reality of what a Nazi looked like. Right.
But you'd only need a couple generations that it feels like to end up just brainwashing every, you know, it's 100 percent. Like that's the thing.
It's super scary. It's like instead of controlling what people write, you control what the paper will say.
Right. 100 percent.
It's almost like controlling... He who controls the AI controls the narrative of the whole country.
And it's going to be smarter than you and me. Like, you and me, if we have an opposition to something, maybe we could say it in a funny way.
Maybe we can, like, relate to people because they know the way we think. But AI is going to be way better at communicating.
So it's going to be like, we're going to look stupid. Like, have you ever had a debate with someone who's way smarter than you and they're making more points than you and you're stuck? Yeah, your episode of the wall guy.
It's frustrating, right? But you're trapped and you're like, ah, fuck, I can't really articulate this as well. Most of my life is like that.
Right. So imagine that, but with the smartest people in the world not being able to keep up because AI is going to literally be like not just the smartest person world, but all of the smartest people in the world together.
Wow. Fuck.
Yeah, that's it. I just worry then whoever controls that is going to control everything.
Exactly. And these fucking eggheads that are running us towards the edge of the cliff have to do what they're doing because China's doing it and they're stealing our data for sure.
But let them have it. What are they getting? They're replicating our research.
They're making AI as well. They're way ahead in a lot of stuff, man.
Way ahead. China's way ahead in drone technology.
Way ahead. But what is it? Somebody could, like, sometimes I guess with a drone they can come and I guess eavesdrop.
They can see what's going on. Commercial drones.
Okay. I don't know what the military has.
And this was like a big subject of the Sean Ryan podcast the other day. Do you know about this? Yeah.
They had a guy on there who came through and said that. Oh, that Liversberg guy.
The guy who supposedly blew himself up in the Tesla Cybertruck in front of Trump Tower. Yeah.
Right? So there's a guy who came on the Sean Ryan podcast and said that this dude, Matthew Livelsberger, is that how you say it? Who apparently was on a television show 12 years ago with Tim Kennedy. Oh, yeah.
I saw that. Green Beret TV show where they did Green Beret shit.
Pretty pretty cool yeah so this guy uh wrote this manifesto he sent this uh not i wouldn't say a manifesto but a statement and in that statement he had there's no indication he was going to blow himself up in that statement by the way the statement was just talking about what he knew and what was the problem was that these chinese drones are operating on this anti-magnetic technology and that we have this technology as well. Was that the stuff that the guy who came on here was talking about that time? Here's what he says.
He says, what we've been seeing with drones is the operational use of gravitic propulsion systems powered by aircraft, most recently China in the East Coast, but throughout history, the U.S. only.
Only we in China have this capability. Our open location for this activity in the box is below.
China has been launching them from the Atlantic from submarines for years, but this activity recently has picked up. As of now, it's just a show of force, and they're using it similar to how they use the balloon for Signet and ISR, which are also part of the integrated comm system.
There are dozens of these balloons in the air at any given time. So what? So what is because of the speed and stealth of these unmanned AC? They are the most dangerous threat to national security that has ever existed They basically have an unlimited payload capacity and can park it over the White House if they wanted it's checkmate Wow, the US government needs to give the history of this how they're employing it and weaponizing it how China is employing them and what the way forward is China's poised to attack anywhere in the East Coast Do you think that this is just this seems to me also like a fear tactic? It could be it could be you know Because it feels big like that.
When someone releases a letter like that and then blows themselves up where they don't have a chance to talk about it and shot himself in the head with a fucking Desert Eagle. You ever seen a Desert Eagle? Uh-uh.
It's a giant overkill of a gun. It's like a .50 caliber pistol.
Is a Desert Eagle .50 caliber? Yes. I don't know.

I mean, they found the Desert Eagle.

I don't know if they officially said that's what we used to the whole world.

Oh, but didn't they say that he shot himself in the head?

They said there was a gunshot wound to the head of the victim in the car.

And it was the worst, too, because...

Yeah.

They didn't even claim it was him yet.

Right.

Wow.

Really?

No, because the DNA is so destroyed.

I mean, he's cooked.

So they have to sample DNA and then run it through a lab and then figure out if it's him. They believe it's him, though.
It's so crazy how when something happens now, it's like, we get the news so fast, right? And we get video footage of it fast. We get a lot of things fast that you don't...
You start getting so many ideas of what's happened and so many angles and lanes and you've had two podcasts come out from different people before you even get anything from the authorities, right? Right. But then you feel like you can't even trust the authorities anyway.
It's so wild how we just are having a piece. Everyone is kind of piecing together for themselves what has happened every time.
That's crazy. So that shows what it actually looks like when a .50 caliber shoots a skull that's wrapped up in that ballistic shell.
Show one more time. Can we show this? Yeah, watch this.
Boom. It just gets destroyed.
It's an enormous round. I mean, it's massive overkill to shoot yourself in the head with one of those.
But the question is, why would you use a Cybertruck? Because one of the things things about a cyber truck is if you're trying to do damage a cyber truck is way more robust than most trucks i mean you can't even they're bulletproof yeah you know i should try to shoot an arrow through one of them out here yeah which is the worst thing ever to say about a vehicle i drive i have a cyber truck and it's so because then everybody's like oh is it fucking bulletproof bitch you know They want to shoot at your truck everybody's like of course look at this metal queer people would yell at me and shit like you're like what is going on like that's so just crazy i mean but people want to challenge it yeah they don't like it there's a lot of people that either love those things i'm on that side or hate them that's my whole family oh yeah they're fucking ew they think they look gross i feel a little embarrassed when i get out of it sometimes i'm gonna have to get back in it it's a statement uh i well i got it like five years i wanted it so bad and you can put it on a hundred bucks and say you had one kind of you know like i got one on order yeah i got one on order right everybody had one but the thing that um you always feel like you're working for lows but you're never dropping off whatever you're supposed to drop off too you feel like you're in a pickup truck yeah i feel like i'm always like uh like i'm gonna pick up truck actually it's a good point i feel like i've always got a um washer dryer but i've just don't know how to it just it has a feeling to it like i work for a home depot and i'm delivering a whirlpool yeah like something heavy yeah what's so heavy i always how is that feeling that feeling a refrigerator it feels like bro if you get in an accident with that thing you gonna do some damage dude i'll tell you what you don't want to do is get stuck uh in rural mississippi having to charge that bitch you yeah no during the holidays oh no what'd you do dude well first of all i pull up and this must circle you like coyotes it was crazy people were coming by looking at it you know their engines from a distance challenging your technology. People were, like, looking at it.
Rubbing their engines from a distance. Challenging your technology.
Women who were barren were rubbing their p***s against it and stuff. People were thinking it had magical powers.
Some brother came right up. I had the window cracked.
He ordered two black and milds from me. Like, I was like, I'm just charging.

Like, I'm going to get two black and milds.

You know?

Like, you can't even imagine where I was.

Town, probably 600 people.

How did they have a charger?

This one place had a charger.

It was like an IGA.

How long did it take you to charge that whole Cybertruck?

It took me two hours to just get enough to get out of there.

How many miles did you get with two hours, with the charging? I would bet I got 40 miles. That's it? Yeah, it was a tough.
I mean, it took me half the day to get back to my mom's in Baton Rouge. Wow.
See, that's the problem with long distance unless you go to a place that has like cities where they have the superchargers. Yeah.
Well, then when I drove back to Nashville, I hit hit like ones that had 300 uh 250 kilowatt hours one has 400 kilowatt hours as a mercedes dealership wow so how quick would that charge you up that thing will charge you up i bet in about 45 minutes it's still all the way to 320 miles still a long fucking time dude i plugged it in at my buddy's house it gave me two miles an hour an hour. So I woke up six hours later and had 12 miles.

That's so crazy.

Yeah.

But that was just like a lamp.

Yeah.

Basically.

Yeah.

It was enough.

A lot of electricity.

Enough power to read by, basically.

Do you really save money, though?

Have you ever looked at that?

It's like how much he's paying on gas versus how much does it cost for electricity.

I don't think you really save any money.

And especially if you have to charge on one of those trips, then it costs like, it's pretty expensive to charge up.

Like, it's not more than gas, but it's probably half the price.

Dude, and then this was the worst thing.

So in Louisiana, they put a couple chargers back behind this church's chicken, right?

I gotta tell you about this shit.

You get some hand movements in here.

Well, look, bro. It's like, as soon as you start doing this like i know you got a point this was my holidays dude it was tragic so i get off i i get they got a church's chicken right so to drive the chargers are behind a church's chicken for some reason but there's no lane to just drive back to the charges you have to get in the to-go lane of the church's chickens you have to go in so there's a big line at the church's chicken right so i get in line i have to wait in line to go to the lady at the order thing you know it's like take your order uh at the to-go order and i'm like i'm just going to the charger so then i go back there and now i have to like meander back and forth like back and forth to get my car to park and it's hardly any room now i'm just facing the people who are waiting in line to pick up their chicken and there's two two types of people in the world there's like people that wait in line at a church's chicken in a drive-thru to get food and people who uh have a electric vehicle right they're just they're two different people very oh so all these people are like and then i had to leave right so i sit there and charge i had to leave some lady is like wouldn't let me back in line because she didn't want me getting her chicken right she's like you can't get my chicken and i'm like i fucking i don't want your chicken right i'm just trying to get out of here just try but there was no way to go around the line line.
You had to get in the line to leave. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.
So you had to order chicken in order to use their electricity. No, but I had to promise a lady I was not going to get her chicken, dude.
I'll give you $11 not to ever fucking even get any chicken from this place. $11? That's not enough.
Or $27 or whatever. It just made me mad, dude.
But anyway, just that whole but just how fast was that charger that charge was pretty quick it's 250 kilowatts an hour say about an hour and hour and 15 minutes you could charge her and you're ready to go an hour and 15 minutes i got out of there pretty i got out there early i cut out early but it was just a lot man i love driving a tesla around town because i know i'll be able to park it at home or park it here and charge it. But if I had to go on a road trip, I would be very nervous.

Yeah, I would say do not do it.

That's what I would say.

Also, it's like whatever the range is, like let's say the range is 360 miles, not the

way I drive.

Yeah, you're not getting that.

You're getting 220, 210.

When you accelerate on the highway, you're like, wee.

Oh, I pulled into a charger with four or five miles left.

Right into that bit.

Then you're like, that's like a pedestrian. I don't give a fuck, son.
You're so close to being a pedestrian. You're like minutes on a walk.
Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock. Only from being a pedestrian.
Only from walking until you run out of water. Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.
You're four minutes away. Fuck that, dude.
But that was about to rock.

Fire.

See this, you can call a tow truck.

They can come with a tank of gas like that.

But that one, they'll show up.

You tip the guy.

Thank you, brother.

Appreciate it.

Where's the nearest gas station?

He hooks you up.

You pay for the gas.

You pay for his service.

You give him a tip.

You drive to the gas station.

Bro, that's a 15-minute ordeal.

You're good to go.

Filled up.

You got fucking beef jerky.

You get a diet Mountain Dew.

You got a bag of peanuts you're not going to eat.

You're on the road, son. Yeah, you got a fucking, you're riding in your truck again.

You're ready to fart and huff it again.

We're talking about farting in the earlier episode.

Guys, I wonder if there's been a study on the drop in IQ from huffing your your own farts driving trucks it can't be good for you animals would do it you don't say you would see i guess caved animals probably do it it can't be good for you just can't be no because it's your body trying to say no way and then your nose is like yeah you know what's really bad for you scented candles really I was reading about this. They're trying to figure out why there's been an uptick in lung cancer from people that don't smoke.
And they're trying to figure out what it is. And they think it's, there's a combination of factors.
Burning toxins, some cooking oils when burned create problems from people inhaling, especially for prolonged periods of time, but also candles. Candles are not good for you.
Those scented candles, you're getting a bunch of funky chemicals. So if you have a one-bedroom apartment, you've got a little bedroom, and you've got like ten candles in there because you like it looking sexy.
You like to listen to fucking moody music. You like to lay on your back and jerk off with your legs in the air like that yeah yeah yeah listen to pj o'rourke listen to cholo steam yeah i want to get moody dude that has to be the The craziest way to jerk off is laying on your back, legs in the air, right?

Legs in the air.

Yeah.

Asshole to God.

God, that's crazy.

Hold on.

And one of my buddies is like, yeah, sometimes I put a pillow under my butt.

I'm like, what is that for?

I don't even feel comfortable stretching like that when I'm alone.

You know, I stretch like that when I'm alone.

I lie on my back and I get both my ankles and I pull them down like this to work on my kicking flexibility. I don't even feel comfortable doing that, but I'm by myself.
Just me by myself. Yeah, that's a lot.
My legs like this, like wee. That's hitchhiking for the devil right there.
That's what I'm saying. I'm giving off a message to the demons in the world.
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Do you think demons are real? Oh, yeah. I believe that there's good and evil.
Yeah, I do too. And some of it, I believe, might be our own individual wars.
And I believe that there could be a group group war i'm amazed that at a group level we

don't start to say hey this stuff is evil and let's not do it right but i think that's where like temptation and all that comes in and yeah i think it's pretty fascinating sometimes i'll wake up with and look at my life as like wow this is a war i'm in this is a and i am the the the the guy who's leading my vessel or whatever, you know, or there is doing my best, you know doing my best That is kind of what it is. There's a lot of that right you're in a war of choices you're in a war of decisions and your war of good behavior and and Detrimental and destructive behavior and you know when I mean especially guys like you that have gone through

periods of addiction, you know, that's always a war of temptation in your mind. There's always gonna be that there is always gonna be

Smelling so

It's always gonna be smelling so it's spring you

This is this is the dark road

This is everyone's talking about gateway drugs

Oh, don't you bring out a new one you son of a bitch. You got it.
This one strong enough Jamie. Let's check

Is that strawberry strong? No, they try to find flavored the thing is this

They're so scary when they bring the new ones out like I'm scared of the new ones the scare all this one's so strong

Oh my god, this is already oh

Feel a little of that.

God.

Let me ride.

You know what the difference is, Jamie?

Let me ride that little bitch. You know what the difference is?

This one, I kept this on it.

I didn't even realize I was doing it, but I kept that on it and then it was sealed.

I'll lay on my back in 69, this thing, brother.

It's already going to be strong, Joe. Quiet.
Don't look at me when i do it hit it hit it i didn't get enough you didn't get enough no you didn't inhale you got scared you missed you're right oh my god oh my god no no you don't do that you don't do that what you just't do that. What you just did scared everyone.

I'm sweating.

I'm sweating too.

Because of that.

Sorry.

How are you?

Are you okay?

Bro, you just changed timelines.

Because of you, Justin Trudeau resigned.

Because of that?

Give me another hit.

Before that.

Before you did that, it was a different timeline.

Trump didn't win. Trudeau didn't resign.
Mark Zuckerberg didn't start doing jiu-jitsu. That's part of what happened.
By the way, I'll tell you for a fact. Mark Zuckerberg started doing jiu-jitsu and nothing turns you into a libertarian like jiu-jitsu.
Really? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Nothing turns you into a person who really values hard work and discipline and struggle like jujitsu huh because Exposure of character on a level that like there's nothing nothing else is like it Wow I hadn't thought about that that much yeah because you expose character in a way That it's almost impossible even with other martial arts because of other martial arts. You can only spar so much man believe me because I spar too much You spar a lot you get hurt and you get hurt eventually you get dinged up to the point where your brain is just not firing so well anymore like I was reading this horrible story where they're talking about Parkinson's and Muhammad Ali's daughter was talking about how she remembers when she was young, when he fought Leon Spinks the second time, she could tell afterwards that he talked different.
Oh. Oh.
You know? It's got to be tough for a kid, huh? Oh my God. And you probably pretend that he doesn't because you don't want to hurt his feelings or whatever.
Well, you must be so scared if you're a kid and your father is a fighter that has to be so terrifying yeah especially watching your fight i've seen people that bring their kids to a fight and then they get flatlined and you see the the terror in the kid's eyes where their father is fucking laid out unconscious bleeding from his mouth a doctor's holding his head up and his feet are twitching yeah and sometimes the kid doesn't even know if the dad won or not. He's still cheering, and you're like, this doesn't even make any sense.
This kid is crazy. Well, that kid might have other problems.
That kid might be already sparring already. They might have that kid sparring young.
There's an argument for sparring young because you can't hurt each other. Oh, yeah.
Sometimes I'll see reels on the internet, on social media of kids that are young sparring it's really funny sometimes they don't know what to do well as long as they learn control they got to learn control but if they learn control when they're young and they learn not to hit each other hard but just to do it fast man they can get so good because they don't hurt each other the way adults hurt each other yeah like once you get to be like 170 pounds man you can generate a lot of force and so if you're sparring hard with another guy that's 170 pounds You're blasting each other. Yeah.
Like once you get to be like 170 pounds, man, you can generate a lot of force. And so if you're

sparring hard with another guy that's 170

pounds, you're blasting each other in the face

and the legs and the body. It's like, oh

God, you do so much damage. Yeah.

So much damage. But little kids don't

do that kind of damage. They just slap each other a little

pat, pat, pat. They just tap each other.

It's like a good way to learn. Oh, if I could go

back and be a kid? Is that what you'd do?

I mean, I would slap. If you could go back in time being a kid, think of all the stuff you would do.
Oh, if I could go back and be a kid? Is that what you'd do? I mean, I would slay out.

If you could go back in time being a kid, think of all the stuff you would do.

Well, let me tell you this.

If you were 90 years old right now, God, if I could go back in time when I was 44 and limber.

It's true, huh?

That's what you'd do.

Back in time, Theo Vaughn for 2025.

Oh, my God.

I should have taken jujitsu back then.

I could have been a badass in 10 years.

If you take jujitsu right now by 54, you could be a black belt.

You think I could?

100%.

Yeah, you're an addict.

I don't know if you did or not Addiction oh, yeah, that's right, huh? Yeah, I think we all have that. What? I get sugar sometimes.
Sugar's a good one. God, I just want something.
Look at that Gatorade. Is that a sugar-free Gatorade or a regular? I told him to get sugar-free.
Zero. I asked him to get sugar-free.
Zero's good. You want a little bit of it? No.
Yeah. I want a hit.
You want a taste of this whiskey? Yeah, you want a gram of this shit. Dude, I would get so, I've just been getting so dehydrated.

First of all, why is dehydration more of a thing now?

Dude, when I was growing up, nobody was like, are you dehydrated?

That's why this is important.

If you're going to listen, you've got to listen to both podcasts.

Listen to that one first.

Because we started talking about dehydration, but then you got, I think you started talking about zebras or something.

I did?

Yeah, you went off in a different direction. No, you went off in a different direction, dude.
You started talking about bombs and aliens. You haven't met you, dude.
I gotta introduce you to you. You're gonna be intrigued.
I'd be fascinated. But no, I think...
What was I saying? Hydration is important, though.

That's why electrolytes.

Electrolytes are important.

Why is it a big thing now?

You remember saying years ago, nobody was like...

Ten years ago, nobody was like...

People were like, yeah, stay hydrated.

But nobody was like...

There wasn't this big crazy thing about it.

Well, there was once they figured out Gatorade.

So do you know what the original Gatorade ingredients were?

It was like citrus juice, like lemon juice, salt, sugar, and water, I believe.

Pull that up.

So this was a criticism that someone was bringing up on one of them Instagram reels.

And they were talking about the original Gatorade versus the Gatorade that they have now with

all these crazy dyes and the color blue and all these fucking, all the weird shit.

Like Gatorade didn't used to be like that.

Gatorade was just like a hydration drink that was pretty fucking good pretty fucking good yeah like hydration drinks are legit Electrolytes that's a legit thing. You know you really do need you need Sodium you need magnesium you need you need a trace minerals Yeah, all that stuff's fucking really good for you And when you sweat a lot it helps to replenish it in your bodyish it in your body.
Do you believe in that hydrogen water stuff where it's like you charge water? Yeah, it's legit. It is? Yeah.
You've got to drink it right after you make it. The original Gatorade invented in 1965 by UF's.
Is that University of Florida? Yeah. Robert Cade consisted of glucose, sodium, potassium, and water.
That's it.

So sodium, potassium, water, and some sugar.

The same formula we use for oral rehydration and cholera.

It worked, but it tasted like tiger piss.

Then Pepsi bought Gatorade, and Michael Jordan sweetened it with high-fructose corn syrup, and voila!

Michael Jordan brought us into the high fructose corn syrup maze.

It was it. Yeah, I remember.
He was the best ever.

Who's done better with sneakers than that guy?

Nobody. Jordans, it became his name.

But I'm saying it became a thing.

It's a part of a brand that's a huge brand, and it's bigger than the brand.

Jordans are bigger than Nikes.

If you have Nikes on, that's one thing.

If you have Jordans on, like, oh, he's got Jordans on.

That's wild, huh? Theophan's wearing Jordans. Look at that.
Yeah. I've never been a big shoe guy, really.
I've got these Jelly Roll shoes on he gave me. Oh, those are tight.
These are like, Hey Dudes, they're called. Oh, yeah, I've got a pair of those.
But they're men. They're really men's slippers, and it's something about it.
Yeah, they're slippers. It's like, let me go on the...
What are you going to do if you have have to fight Not put these on and go out

Theo scrapping on the porch by the way, I've seen more fistfights online over the last three years than I have in my entire life Yeah, my entire life of actually seeing street fights my entire life of being out in comedy clubs and nightclubs and bars and seeing street fights

I've seen more in the last three years than all that combined. Do you feel like we get an unrealistic view of reality because of all the stuff that we see online? You do.
But if you don't go and see an actual bar fight, you don't know reality. I remember I was 21 years old.
I was in Boston. I went to this bar, and I saw this dude break a Heineken bottle on this dude's face.
I don't remember what they were arguing about. The dude did it so quickly.
Out of nowhere, his first move was break a Heineken bottle on this guy's face and just cut this guy's face wide open. It was blood was pouring down his face.
I was like, that is crazy. And I was as close to that guy as I am

to Jamie. It was right there at the bar.

I watched it all go down. I was like, that's...

And it put in my head

like, don't ever talk shit

to somebody at a bar. Like, de-escalate

always. Too many weapons around.

There's people out there that will just

break a fucking bottle over your face.

Especially if you threaten them. I don't know what

that guy said. I don't know what happened.
I just saw

the act of the guy breaking...

I heard loud arguing

Thank you. Just break a fucking bottle over your face, especially if you threaten them.
I don't know what that guy said I don't know what happened. I just saw the act of the guy breaking I saw I heard loud arguing and then smash and the gun make a sound when he hit him or anything like that Remember just I remember blood the blood was instant.
It just gushed down his face. Yeah I mean this guy got ruined for life.
He has a giant scar on his face for the rest of his life for sure There's no way he doesn't it was just crush his whole face blood Did you fuck with people man? Oh, yeah, I'm not fucking with anybody. I know you don't but I don't for everybody else listening Don't fuck with people.
Yeah, especially if you're at a bar too shit is wet that I don't I don't like to be in places where people are real drunk because shit can get too weird It makes me it makes me nervous. I think a hundred percent Do stupid fucking things when they're drunk.
Yeah, they could ruin the whole rest of their life Just being hammered matching people have just sobered up and be like you're lying I did that happen and they don't even have any memory of it I was watching this video that I just saw on Instagram the other day of this guy Who was a former Muay Thai fighter in Mexico? Mm-hmm And he got a fight with these dudes and just started K K O and dudes left and right He K O is like four or five dudes and one of them died Because this is one of the things that I tell people all the time absolutely happens in street fights You knock a person out they fall down They bounce their head off the concrete and they fucking die and it happens all the time It happens all the time and it happens so in 25% of the people this guy knocked out one of them died So 25% of them died the one out of four he KOs all four of them one dude never wakes up And now he's charged with murder Have you seen the video? It's pretty impressive. No and the guy's just defending himself.
Yeah, these guys are coming after him and

He just starts flatlining them. Damn black.
He's got a good right hand

Did you um, did you see any UFC fire any fight when you're in Scotland? What do you do for fun when you were there? There was no UFC fights

Have you seen that video Jamie? I could send it to you if you want

Who's a Scottish fighter Paul Craig? Is he Scott? Yeah, he's Scottish. He's a bad motherfucker.
He's got one of the greatest triangles in the history of the sport. That guy's triangles off the charts.
I know I sent it to Tommy. Me and Tom Segura sent each other everything fucked up, including that nuclear explosion.
I also saw that lady get body slammed. Did you see that one, Jamie?

You didn't see that lady get

body slammed? I don't know what specific time you're talking

about. I've seen a video of that before.
Some lady

punches this guy in the face and the guy body slams her.

It wasn't that Pentecostal deal, was it?

No, this one is

I think it's in Toledo, Ohio

and they're out in the middle of the street

and this lady is yelling at this dude's girlfriend. I just sent it to you, Jamie.
Bam. Oh, Jesus.
That's another one. Ooh.
Oh, he picked that woman up and slammed her like that? Wow. That seems, first of all, weight class.
That's a catchweight, huh? Oh, that's so awful. That's so awful.
Oh, my God. Damn.
Jesus Christ That's not the one I'm talking about what I'm talking about is I just sent it to you Jamie you gotta be careful man You just when the lady punches the guy in the face though The guy's trying to deescalate he tries to walk away Mm-hmm and the lady says get the fuck out of my face And then she punches him in the face and the dude picks her up and just slams her and she her boyfriend was in the car the whole time

She's calling out to the boyfriend in the car and the dude does not get out of the car. Nope

She's like go ahead and fuck. Give me some volume

Angle full-screen watch this Watch this. Get out of the fucking car.
You went around my fucking ass. Get out of the fucking car there, bitch.

Get out.

Get out.

I didn't touch your fucking car, you fucking bitch.

You were on my gut.

Come and touch me because my man's right fucking there.

Come and put your fucking hands on me.

I ain't driving crazy.

Your bitch was on my goddamn ass.

I went to the fucking other lane.

Get out of my face.

See you later.

Bitch. Fuck later.
Oh! Fuck it! Oh! That's why you gotta go to a meeting, dude. I'd go to a meeting before I do this shit.
Okay. Just for the record.
That's a Mazda, I think, huh? No, it looks like a Cadillac. Like a shitty old Cadillac.
For the record, that lady could die. Yeah.
Like, you could die from that. Like, if her off the concrete I'm not sure if it did but if it did with the weight of all of his body and her body like that shit is Very dangerous.
Look how much we heard it from here. Yeah He was charged with assault and battery by means of dangerous weapon causing serious bodily injury, vandalizing property, unlicensed operation of a motor vehicle.
The man involved was arrested, but he wasn't driving. Yeah, that blows me up, man.
This is just what someone posted below. That could be...
It might not be true. The woman suffered injuries but was released from the hospital.
Oh. The thing is, it's like she assaulted him first.
Right. Oh, yeah.
It doesn't.

It seemed like they would get that figured out.

But doing that.

Oh, he did bang her head for sure.

Oh, yeah.

Well, you think.

Yeah.

Look at that.

That's super dangerous.

Super fucking dangerous.

Yeah, man.

Even more dangerous than knocking somebody out.

I mean, that's horrible.

That's the kind of stuff.

You could 100% kill somebody doing that.

100%.

Well, people want to do dangerous stuff.

Did you see there's a woman that just died petting an just died trying to pet an elephant, I think, in Thailand? Do you mean, if you don't mind? A guy get trampled by an elephant recently. You did? Oh, it was awful.
This elephant got tired of this guy ordering it around and just folded this dude up and just squashed him. And you see him trying to get away and it just squashes his head.
Yo. Spanish woman killed by elephant in Thailand while bathing animal.
Oh, by the way, I did that. You did it? I didn't get in to bathe them, but my family did.
We, in Thailand, rode the elephants and I was like, I don't think this is cool. They thought, oh, this is so beautiful.
This is what happens. You go this elephant reserve like it's like They rescue these elephants by the way the elephants are completely free-range So they're wandering through the jungle So while you're there you hear trees branching branches snapping and you see elephants is making their way through the jungle to this group And then they feed them sugarcane So you So you feed these elephants sugarcane.
So you give them a bunch of sugarcane, and then you clean them. So you wash the elephant, and you say nice things to it, and you develop this little relationship with the elephant.
Oh, beautiful. And then you ride the elephant through the jungle.
The elephant takes you, and then at the end of it, you bathe the elephant. Right.
You get the elephant in the water, and you wash them. You're basically being nice to them.
They're being nice to you. They're letting you ride them.
You give them free food and you give them a little massage. But I made a video about it, I think.
When does it go askew? I definitely did. I was like, I don't recommend it.
Yeah. I was like, it's cool because I was hanging out with this elephant in the video.
They're really sweet creatures. They're so gentle.
But they're so big. And they're deciding not to kill you.
Right. And you're riding them, which is like, why do you have to ride them? Why do we have that fat that fatuation with people that want to take pictures of like, you know, let me pet this newborn cheetah.
Right. Let me bottle feed this fucking senior citizen tiger.
You know what I'm saying? There's always like, let me breast,

let me bathe this elephant.

Well, the tigers are all drugged up too.

That was another thing we did in Thailand.

You got to be careful, dude.

The tigers are drugged up, man.

Uh-uh.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Super drugged up.

So this is what it is.

It's like you go to these tiger sanctuaries.

What?

You can.

You certainly can on tigers in Thailand.

Oh, Thailand.

So you go to this place and they have little kittens.

So the kittens, the tiger cubs, they're different.

There's a lot of people. You can you certainly tigers in Thailand.
Oh Thailand. So you go to this place and they have kit They have little kittens.
So the kittens the tiger cubs. Yeah, they're different.
They're super active like They're biting things and playing with each other and you can touch them and yeah Oh good touch them. Okay, then when they get slightly older you can be in the cage with them But there has to be a do with a stick a do with a stick Between you and this small tiger fuck no whose team is he oh, it's crazy.
It's so crazy. It's so crazy.
And he's on your team? Yes. Okay.
And this is a small tiger. This tiger is like 40 pounds.
And then when they get bigger, then they have to drug him. So then when you get into the adult tiger, they're like this.
Like so obvious. And people are taking pictures like sitting next to the tiger.
The tiger's literally like this. He has no idea what's going on.
They keep them all heroin down in their mind. The tigers don't move.
And you realize they're drugged up and you get real sad. RFK's going to end that shit.
I'll say that, dude. We're going to have real active tigers fucking attacking people.
You want a photo with a tiger? You've got to risk your life. But that's the thing.
It's like, why do we have that infatuation, though, of like, I want to take this with this cobra around my neck. I want to take this, you know.
That's you can't like get these things where you want to pet a tiger you want to you know brush a lion's teeth you want to tickle a sister out in akron or something without getting you know and sometimes people you're gonna get attacked you gotta be careful yeah but why what is that inside of us that makes us want to do that because it's scary it's scary to pet a crocodile so when a guy can like put his hand on the crocodile's face you're like whoa yeah do you ever see that one where the dude is like the crocodile grabs a hold of his arm and goes into a gator roll in front of the crowd oh it's horrible rips his arm off find the whole crowd i haven't seen that um what else was i going to ask you about what do you think the drones are theo i thought there's just a bunch of fucking i think it's a what does a psyop mean i always hear that psychological operation okay i think it's a psyop by somebody i think it's not you know yeah it's a couple drones over new jersey whatever i don't fucking know it could be jimmy johns is gonna have a new delivery thing they're gonna try next year who i wouldn't be surprised at all. I wouldn't be surprised if Amazon's going to do a new.

I wouldn't be shocked at all.

It could have been one of those.

You know they have those New Year's Eve displays.

Like fireworks displays now are drones instead of fireworks.

So they'll have like a thousand drones and they just make a bunch of shit.

And it's different, right?

I saw that at the Post Malone concert. It could have been 11 drones escaped from a drone's enslavement camp where they're forced to do these shows and it's gonna be a Pixar movie in two years I'm saying not concerned at all I'm not concerned dude look if they're gonna come get me come get me come get me look at what are they doing who's it who are they who are they these fucks yeah they're gonna come come get me come get me bitch yeah if they want to get am.
Yeah. Leave me alone.
Huh? Yeah. Otherwise, leave me alone.
Don't make me look at you flying around the sky like an asshole. Yeah.
What are you doing up there? Come down here and fuck if you want to party. Whoa.
Or come down here and fucking party. Come down here and have a drink.
Come down here and do something. You're a drone in the distance fucking looking at shit.
Do you think we'll ever get to a point where aliens are so comfortable with us they can just come hang out dude i think earth to aliens is a dump dude i think earth to alien because aliens go on vacation every year right they're just like us right and they take their kids on a trip or whatever and the kids who are so poor right and i'm and look we were poor mom would take us to the beach when it was freezing cold and fucking wouldn't tell us, you know, whatever. It seems cold.
It's like, whatever. So well.
And but the aliens that don't care about their kids, whatever, they bring them here to fucking. They're like, oh, and the kids like we have to go to fucking Earth, dude.
Our life sucks. You know, like the cool alien kids go to all more neater shit.
You know, right. Does it make sense to you? Yeah kind of thing i'm saying man did you know scotland actually has some of the most ufo sightings in the whole world well they had one of the best ufo sightings they took photographs of it it was in that movie bridge bonnie or whatever what's it called bridgebury uh yeah something like that james fox's documentary the program he was just here promoting it and they showed the photo and it's a photo from the 1990s that they got of this thing there's apparently there was three photos Bonnie bridge.
That's it most you for settings on the planet whoa 300 per year, but also let me tell you something those folks like to drink. I mean, they drank Oh, yeah, I have a weed rab have a weed rab if someone a wee drab, that means it's time to get fucked up.
This dude poured me a shot of Irish whiskey that was like that thick. I was like, oh, we're going to go.
We're getting ready to go. We're getting fucked up.
Did they call you that? Have a wee drab. They're the nicest people.
They're the nicest people. And they don't have a lot of gays over there either.
They have a lot of blue-eyed people over there. You know that? You don't think they have a lot of gays?

I don't know.

What do you think they do with them?

I mean, they have them.

I bet they don't say that they're secretive.

Nah, I don't think so.

You don't think?

I think they're pretty open-minded.

In fact, I think they have a pretty woke government.

I think they have a very woke government.

They wear a lot of kilts, that's for sure, dude.

There you go.

It's close to gay.

I mean, it's not close, but it's like, what if a kilt says free awning on it? What if it's a rainbow kilt? Do they sell rainbow kilts? They probably do. It's always raining.
What if it just says free awning on it? You're like, oh, that seems like a trap, bro. Come dry your head off down here.
But if it says kids awning, you got to be done. That's fucking.
Yeah toys. That's pretty cool, dude.
Hey, the top's empty. Jesus Christ.
I'm just saying, dude, the Scottish, we need more of them, dude. And I believe that in the future we'll get more of them, man.
You think they're going to breed a lot? Or do you think we're going to import people? They've had some explosions of population, I know, over the past 50 years. Oh, really? Yeah, I think so.
There's like a million people over there there's nobody over there yeah but they're getting more i think the whole country is like six million people most redheads most blue-eyed people yep most redheads per cap as of 2022 the population of scotland was 5.4 million yeah largest population ever recorded by scotland census population grew by 2.7 percent since the 2011 census which was slower rate of growth in the 4.6 increase between 2001 and 2011 they're smashing they've been listening ed sheeran brother that's what's happening get the candles lit yeah they're coming back getting lung cancer it's a fuck it fuck it i'm keeping atmosphere going they're making a comeback i think everyone has subscriptions that they've forgotten about. I recently had an umbrella subscription just sending me every seven weeks, getting another umbrella in the mail, just stacking them up.
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Do you think, Joe, about do you think that Elon and Vivek Ramaswamy will really be able to have an effect on things? I'm interested to see. Elon's a very pushy man.
Once he gets an idea in his head, it's very difficult to get him off of it. I'm interested to see if they can do anything.
I'm interested to see what the reaction is to it, too. Like, what kind of resistance is there to them trying to change things? By the actual government elected officials.
Yeah, that's going to be interesting, too. Like, sometimes you find out more by resistance than you do from, like we did with, like, the, we were talking about on the other podcast podcast the trudeau thing with the truckers in canada when he went after the people that donated money to the truckers and he closed their bank accounts that's crazy fascism i didn't know he did that yeah that's crazy tyrannical overreach that's that's like really dangerous authoritarian government tactics you close the bank accounts of people who donated to a peaceful protest.
So sometimes like in resistance, you get to see what someone's really about. Yeah.
You know, and so I'm interested to see, well, they're already trying to kill him. You know, I know two times.
I think even after that, they're like, we got to let him keep going. That's the other weird one about the killing them thing.
They're trying to kill him. Is there, there there's all these connections this is the big tinfoil hat conspiracy thing they're all connecting them to fort bragg so there's three connections to fort bragg there's this guy who blew himself up allegedly in the tesla there's the dude who tried to kill trump on the golf course he had visited fort bragg a hundred times um there's uh one other one.
What's the other one? The New Orleans guy? The New Orleans guy. Yeah, that's right.
The New Orleans guy who ran over those people in the street. That guy's from Fort Bragg as well.
And so... I'm praying for those groups.
It's fucking heartbreaking. What people are really terrified of is the idea of mind control and that they train people that are very vulnerable people that are all fucked up.
They train these people to become hitmen and terrorists. And there was an undercover camera thing.
I'll send this to you, Jamie, because you see it and you're like, what the fuck? These are real people. Where this guy is explaining how they do this.

And he's explaining how they take people and push them over the edge.

Oh, yeah?

People that are maybe like a little bit lost and they give them a nudge to get them to do things.

Well, it all makes sense.

I mean, just like religion can find you or just like...

Sure, the government can find you when you're vulnerable Sure, the government can find you when you're vulnerable.

Yeah, something can find you when you're vulnerable. Well, that's the kid that shot Trump.
That's what a lot of people think that is, too. The tinfoil hat conspiracy is that they found this very vulnerable kid.
He did a BlackRock commercial, and then, you know, a year and a half later, whatever it was, he's shooting at Trump off of a roof. Yeah.
So listen to this. Oh, you set them up.
So CIA agent explains how the government baits and tricks mentally unwell social media users into committing crimes they wouldn't normally commit. And so it says you set them up.
You create the situation to where they have no choice but to act on their impulse. And once they act on that impulse, then we call that entrapment.
We call it a nudge. A nudge.
A nudge. Sometimes you just gotta give them a quick look just to see what happens, right? And how does that happen? You put a post out there or you have someone's fake profile say something that triggers the love.
We know it's gonna trigger them, right? Like, we already know your history. If we're're to that point we already know everything about

Sometimes you like to fuse and just wait for it to follow yeah

That's crazy So this is the guy's name is Gavinavin o'blennis and says cia contracting officer former fbi san diego like is that to protect or serve like what is that for you imagine that government money is being spent to manipulate vulnerable people into doing things that they wouldn't ordinarily do that's crazy i could I could totally imagine that. I mean, that's what's scary about-

Why isn't always these chatty gay guys that get busted? Well, this guy, obviously, it seems like was trying to flirt with whoever he's talking to. Yeah.
To me. And I'm not saying the guy- That's always what it is.
... enjoys buddies or whatever.
I'm just saying it seemed like that to me. Yeah, chatty gay guys.
That's how they keep busting them. Yeah.
They get hot guys on Grindr to go meet up with chatty gay guys. Yeah.
I i wonder how they set that up i wonder if you have to have a bunch of verified fucks in order for people to take like where's your blue check mark you got to be really gay buddy you got to get a pink check mark someone's fucked you all right this guy's legit oh and you think there's a lot of people being fake gays or whatever to help the government Yeah, all that James O'Keefe stuff Back when he was at Project Veritas

They'd always bust these gay guys james o'keefe the author no no no the investigative journalist oh i didn't see that very controversial investigative journalist that does these uh undercover ops where he finds he gets one of his guys to wear a camera i'm thinking robert o'keefe i think i I think. I don't know who you're thinking of.
But James O'Keefe was with Project Veritas. Now he's got his own thing.
What is it called? The James O'Keefe's... OMG something? OMG, right? O'Keefe Media Group.
Yeah. And so looking into this guy, he might be a bullshit artist.
He might have been lying just so he could get laid, you know? That's what I what i felt like a hundred percent this guy seems like just what someone claimed to look into him and said he didn't work there he's va employed advanced medical support assistant um okay it says this guy is my age he was checking in patients at the va when i started as an fbi agent and that was 10 years older than many in 2022 he was the secretary at the FBI. Be skeptical people, geez.
So he might be just, well, it seemed like he was, but also he probably does know how they do it. Maybe he's not even saying that he does it because he has a low position, but if he's explaining how the FBI does it and he does work for the FBI.
It makes sense. Do you think we can trust our FBI anymore? I think you trust some of them, but the FBI is like people and people in positions of power They they get corrupted some do get corrupted some are great patriots It's just like everything else man and the CIA the same thing I think with every fucking group of people that are in power that don't have a lot of oversight or were the organization itself has been corrupted.
You know, there's a lot of people that think the FBI back in the day, not the same people alive today, of course, but they had something to do with Martin Luther King's assassination. Oh, yeah.
You know, there's a lot of people that think they had something to do with Malcolm X's assassination. Kennedy.
Yeah. There's a lot of fucking theories.
And I don't know the truth. I don't know the truth.
But when you look in the January 6th thing, and you said that the F... Didn't they admit they had 26 agents there? Is that what they admitted to, Jamie? Because this is the most recent discussion about what actually took place in January 6th.
Like, how many of those people? This article is talking about, is this 20? 20. I just wonder what...
20 agents. What starts to happen to happen if you don't if as a society you don't believe and trust in i believe that the the trust overall in government and government and authority and in america really as a whole is kind of starting to dissipate along with the trust in the media right same time so then what, has that ever happened in history? And then I'm sure it has.
And where do we go from here? Well, I guess it's too big of a question. When you say, has it ever happened in history? Sure, things have fallen apart before, but has it ever come back together again? Maybe not, but maybe it didn't have the internet back then.
Right. So what people are looking at, like with Trudeau resigning and Trump winning and then, you know, all this talk of Robert Kennedy getting in the make America healthy again movement like that, we might be able to see legitimate change this go around.
Like with Vivek and Elon being in charge of government efficiency, we might be able to see. I'm hopeful.
I'm really hopeful for the first time in a long time But I'm curious to see what can actually get done

Who do they have to answer to Vivek and Elon who did they have to first present stuff to somebody said it was Marjorie Taylor

Green is that true or somebody made that is they're in I

Met her at a party actually yeah, yeah, I didn't know that it was her

I don't know like a ton about politics, but it was definitely interesting though

I'm sure Tucker had that party for out. He has like a new has nicotine pouches.
They're good I haven't done them do legit, but uh, yeah, it seemed cool No Gibson was there. That was pretty cool.
So I went without nicotine pouches for five days See what that was like what happened? When I tried the eights when I came back I got these Lucy's these breakers the eights. I couldn't take it.
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So I've been taking these while I do podcasts, but Completely killed my desire to just pop them in throughout the day. Yeah, because I was used to the eights So I was popping them eights all day long But then I realized when I wasn't taking them for the five days.
I'm like, oh, I'm a lot more calm Yeah, I'm a lot less ramped up. I'm like, I don't need to be ramped up while I'm on vacation I don't have to do any podcasts.
Yeah, you know, I don't need to be alive as much. I don't well I just mean I mean enjoy just be chill why be alert why be so alert yeah thing is you get used to being so alert and then you want them all the time want them before i lift fucking give me an eight before oh i want something all the fucking time dude yeah i want a sniff i wish i had that trach hole i'd just fucking want another sniff boof shit right into my neck all day.
Yeah. I'll take whatever you got, boy.

I heard a buddy the other day saying he's sober.

Oh, you're in, dude.

Oh.

Wow. You look like a Jets fan.

I'm like looking at fireworks right now.

My eyes are closed. It's just

fireworks. Oh, yeah.
Give me some

of the Katy Perry dust,

buddy.

Joey, you want to see me ride it, don't you katie perry takes her panties off and that's it oh no and i shouldn't have said the first part either because he's married katie perry does this yes be respectful i am and let's imagine not a real katie perry but a robot katie perry because that's coming yeah we met and we met Catherine Perry, who grew up... Different gal.
She's from Toledo.

She's the girl that got body slammed.

Take a snap.

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You were reluctant to give it back.

You were thinking about going again.

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Your eyes when you close your eyes you see fireworks

Yeah, like when I closed my eyes. It was like my whole it was all lit up

It reminds me of that thing you ever seen that game show. It's um

Sauce challenge or whatever what hot sauce challenge. Oh, yeah, yeah hot wings hot wings right hot ones hot ones Well, you ever done that? Yeah, I did it a few years ago And it was a great that got Shawn Evans is a great guy.
That's all I hear about him. Oh, everybody says he's a nice guy He's so smart and he's a neat.
He's just a nice dude And um people are always like how are the sauces well seven of them are sauces a couple of them are fucking shit you used to clean this out of a boat you know it's like it's like like sauces went into that weird realm where it was like we just want to burn a hole in you kind of thing you know yeah and so some of them got to be very um i don't get sued for saying that can i say that i'm just joking right yeah you're just joking but they're like some of them were like oh this isn't i wouldn't put this on anything right it's too strong it's it's not a sauce it's just like a chemical it felt like yeah it's dangerous yeah what about that one chip challenge ever try that i did that it's fun it's preposterous it's nice yeah it's like a mexican christmas type of thing i think out every year. But the chips are stale and bullshit, though.
That's what was terrible. The chips are bullshit.
It's just a gateway drug for spice or whatever. I feel like it was just a way to reuse shitty old chips that had gone bad.
That's what it felt like to me. Like, whoever did it is a goddamn genius.
Because I was offended by the fact that the chip was so dry. Yeah.
I was like, look, you could do this with a Dorito, it wouldn't be as offensive. You know, one thing about Doritos, every time you open those bitches, it's the same.
I know they're using seed oils and a bunch of chemicals, but guess what? I don't eat Doritos all the time, but I had a bag of Doritos five days ago and guess what? I enjoyed it. It was Cool Ranch.
Oh, they're so good. They were good.
I remember when they came out with those, people couldn't even fucking didn't know what to do. They couldn't stop eating.
I remember our stepdad came back for like a week when they came out. And he's like, yeah, everything's going to be fine.
Cool Ranch. Fuck, they were good.
A little bit of queso. Oh, dude, Cool Ranch was good.
I remember, I'm trying to think of the early cheese balls. Those were good.
Those were good.

You can't outlaw that stuff. Just because some people have no

self-control. Do you think

are some people going to start to be like, oh shit,

this guy's going to take away Chick-fil-A like you were saying.

Probably. Yeah.

We can't let that happen.

We can't now go against Bobby Kennedy.

Yeah, we have to. We have to fight him.

It's the same thing. Remember Jay Leno was the Doritos guy?

Jay Leno was selling Doritos. I think that's when Bill Hicks started attacking him.
They didn't get along I didn't know that you ever meet Bill Hicks. I never met him.
I saw him live twice two or three times I think three times But I said hi to him like it's like you know like that Okay, so was he like famous when you saw him? He was famous for comedians. He was famous He had been on Rodney Dangerfield's young comedian special and that was a big deal back then This is before he even had his big HBO special He was just this weird guy who was connected to Kinison and then the first time I saw him live I was like holy shit.
was doing things that are so different than any of the comedy that was popular back then it was all like He had something to say about things. It was like cultural It was like Cultural commentary with jokes, but the cultural commentary was as much of a part as what he was saying was the fact that it was funny That was totally unique and then it became a thing where everybody was copying him.
Oh really? Yeah, so he was like one of those guys that people just started being like without even without even realizing it Yeah, without realizing it and realizing it and just openly plagiarizing him He was very plagiarized by a bunch of people, but he was just doing something different because his interests were different He was following his interests Yeah, you know, that's what he was interested in talking about So and he was touring so much that he was working so much that he had so much material because he was just constantly Playing in all these places and unlike a lot of like really respected comedians He didn't do his tours in the big cities. He's like touring around the deep south you know he called it his flying saucer tour because everywhere he would tour was where flying saucers would be spotted like these weird fucked up cities and so he developed this like really intelligent act that would work on dumb crowds huh very unique guy like lowbrow high art kind of stuff well some of it was it was lowbrow.
Some of it was highbrow. Some of it was just funny Great social commentary on the war, you know, he was just great.
It was just a different thing I mean he wasn't as like laugh out loud funny as like Richard Jenny But I remember me and Richard Jenny watched him once and he said every time I see that guy I'm like I gotta do more of that Oh, yeah Richard Jenny said that I saw him say it and so I'm like, I got to do more of that. Oh, yeah.
Richard Jennings said that. I saw him say it.
And so I'm like, wow. Richard Jennings, to me at that time, was one of the greatest comics alive.
He was so good in the 1980s. Like, people don't realize.
I've told this story before, but just for you. There's one time he was at the Eastside Comedy Club.
And Eastside Comedy Club was a big comedy club in Long Island. Great club.
Awesome club. Richie Manervini used to own it.
And we were there on Sunday, and the dude who was the emcee over the weekend was depressed. He was like, Richard Jenney did four different hours.
And he goes, he didn't repeat a joke once, and every hour he killed. He goes, he did four completely different hours.
And no one could do that back then. So for Richard Jenney to tell me that he was watching Bill Hicks like I gotta do more of that Wow like that's how

Influential he was

Did you see George Carlin perform then too?

Yeah, I saw George perform a bunch of times. I saw George perform at a time where he wasn't doing so good

He was struggling with the drugs you think I don't know man. I saw him bomb in New Hampshire

I took my roommates to a casino saw him play in a casino in New Hampshire and he fucking ate shit It was weird. It was weird.
It's like it wasn't worked out. Yeah, it's like he was he would go on stage with notebooks And he was just kind of like working out ideas He had a very different way of doing comedy like his way of doing comedy was he would write everything out and And he would bring notebooks on stage and perform it as he wrote it Like he didn't do it like almost like doing a one-man show and then every year he would film it for HBO damn Yeah, it was a totally different style of doing comedy And so he went through periods in time where he was doing real well And he was real funny and then he went through some dark times where he was bombing a lot and that's unfortunately the first time i saw him have you ever seen um roll todd willie that guy uh who's that do you know what that is i'll put you on him he's like i guess he's kind of a comedian now he was a he played football for alabama and then he got injured.
He was in the military.

See if you can pull up

something of him.

So what does he do? Does he just say his crazy things?

He loves Alabama. He's like a

mascot?

Yeah, yeah. He's like a mascot.

He likes alcohol.

He looks like he likes alcohol.

Yeah.

Look right here on this side. He likes alcohol.
He looks like he likes alcohol. Yeah.
Sitting here watching and waiting on the bomber gang.

Look right here on this side.

Chilling.

Chilling.

Don't give a piss.

Don't give a piss about nothing but the tide.

What you doing?

The tide.

Alabama tide he likes.

Wow.

That's one of his favorites.

Yeah, he's a-ho. You got to give people the freedom to not give fuck about anything but the Tide.
Right? That's one of the... Right? If you're gonna have transgenders going into the men's room or the women's room, you're gonna have to have that guy, too.
Yeah, yeah. You gotta give...
You gotta be tolerant of that guy. Oh, 100%, man.
How come you're not? Yeah. Why are you so judgmental? Like that guy.
Have some tolerance.

Yeah, he served for our country too.

Did he?

Yeah.

He got injured in the, or I think he got injured.

He was in the military with my friend's dad.

But he, I think he played at University of Alabama, but now he's like the biggest fan.

But he's kind of a, yeah, mascot for Alabama.

He goes by Roll Tide Willie. Okay.
Why did you want to bring him up? I don't know. Just came to mind? Yeah, I just think we're just talking about, what were we talking about? Oh, comedians, entertainers.
I think entertainment's getting interesting because a lot of people are getting entertainers too just off of social media reels, right? Right. So it's like you're finding somebody you might want to watch like Jessica McGowan or something.
Who's that? Shit. The lady from Buffy the Vampire Slayer you know what I'm talking about? Or, you know, Gwyneth Paltrow.
Or watch like a, or watch Roll Tide. You know what I'm saying? It's just so,

it's,

entertainment's just super interesting now.

Well,

it's definitely open to more things,

right?

Like,

Tim Dillon turned me on

to that family in New Jersey

that goes to Costco

and yells out about cookies.

Oh,

the booms.

Yeah.

Yeah,

yeah,

yeah.

That's unfortunate,

right?

I mean,

that's crazy.

We saw how many millions of people watch that. Like, that's way more than watch cnn we bring the boom yeah that kid and the one kid i heard he made good grades unfortunately which is like well he's not even in school why should he yeah he's gonna make that costco tiktok money they better not ban tiktok imagine that family becomes homeless yeah because some heartless politicians decide to stop that Chinese spyware.

How about let those morons stay on that shit?

Let them steal their passwords.

Let them go boom.

I'm on there.

You should be.

But they're taking all our... They're taking...

But yeah, I guess I'm wondering sometimes, what are the Chinese actually taking that they already have for me?

Except, I mean, they could geolocate me.

Your DNA.

They're going to clone you.

You're going to be like Alex Jones. They're going to have a different version version of you half my family's in recovery.
You can have it, but You can fucking You think any of those drones are Chinese How could we have in our airspace a drone from another country and we don't know it that's why all is it that we don't know it or we can't do anything about it oh we could do something about it well you have to decide to do something about it and the biden administration doesn't seem like they're the type that would just be shooting shit out of the sky that's a good point whereas trump that motherfucker will shoot some shit out of the sky you know they didn't tell him about some of the balloons that china had circling the country because they were worried he was going to have them shot out of the sky. You know, they didn't tell him about some of the balloons

that China had circling the country

because they were worried he was going to have them shot out of the sky.

No way.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They openly admitted that they didn't tell Trump

about some of the balloons.

Remember when they shot that balloon out of the sky?

Yeah.

When they shot that balloon out of the sky,

we were talking about this the other day,

they missed.

One of those missiles missed.

And went where?

Who fucking knows?

Oh. It's like New Year's Eve in San Antonio dude Yeah, imagine if you're hiking you're out there in the wilderness like this is amazing.
I've got my jet boil I'm gonna cook I'm gonna cook up some ramen tonight Boom right in the face Right in the face a missile that was meant for a Chinese balloon and they're never gonna admit to that They'll say They'll say it was, yeah. You vanished.
Yeah. There's nothing to even test.
You'll be on one of those 411 documentaries or something. Bro, you get hit in the face with a missile, there's nothing left.
That's on you, too, dude. There's nothing left.
Yeah. They don't even know you were there.
You just, you got ate by wolves. Who knows what happened to you? God, baby girl is gone.
You're gone. There's nothing.
You're pink mist. They're going to scrape you off the leaves, do a DNA test.
Yeah, dude. You get in with a missile out of a fucking fighter jet? There would be barely enough for a wolf to lick a little bit of you off a rock.
Okay, let's imagine that Beirut bomb. Okay.
That Beirut bomb. What do you do? You see it falling.
What do you do? You don't do anything? You got a sound you don't do a thing you just go. Oh, no, and then you vaporize you prepare yourself for the next dimension How long do you get it save it? You don't get any time at all Come on.
It just happens so fast if you're in the epicenter of one of those bombs and it just goes off You don't have any time. What is boom vaporize the whole city's vaporized.
What if you're 2,000 yards off? You might live. Who knows? You might be behind a fucking building, and the building might stay up, and you just get your eardrums blown out, and you get the kind of concussion that you usually get from a horrible car accident.
Who knows? I would imagine there's a level where you could be far enough away where it's not's not death like instant death But where's that level? Where is it? It's not close close. You're dead for sure So like how far out do you have to be where you now you're deaf for the rest of your life? Now you can't see you know who knows now you have no memory of your childhood It's like a concussion of epic proportions even if you survive Depending upon how far out you are and then you know you get far out enough though.
It doesn't affect you at all You could see it from a distance That's got to be crazy too to know that you could have just been over there and you would have been vaporized Oh, do you hear about the dude that survived Hiroshima and then he went to Nagasaki to work and then he He survived Nagasaki. No, I survived both of them.
He just survived both of them still alive

So I think he died recently, but this dude he went from yeah

I think he died a while ago now that I'm thinking about it. This dude went he was in Hiroshima

bomb blew up

Killed you know how many people hundred fifty thousand people instantaneously

He escapes gets out goes to Nagasaki to work Nagasaki gets hit Two miles from the blast zones of both And did he say how he survived each time? What was the guy's name? I Can't pronounce the first name. I'll show you give him some credit give Theo a shot What's his name? Suntomo Yamaguchi.
Yeah. Tutsumo Yamaguchi.
Tutsumo Yamaguchi. There's been quite a few fires named Yamaguchi.
Two files. Less than two miles from the blast zones of Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings and miraculously survived both without debilitating injuries.
My double radiation exposure is now an official government record Yamaguchi said I can tell you the younger generation the horrifying history of the atomic bombings even before I die Do you think we should have done that Joe that bomb? Wow he lived he died of stomach cancer at 93. Oh my god.
That's incredible. He lived that long.
Yeah Stomach cancer cancer. One of us because of the bomb.
I mean, he died at 93. But some Asians live very long.
You can get 120 years out of an Asian. Do I think we should have dropped the bomb on people? No.
Yeah, me neither. No, it's fucking insane.
It's so insane. But it just goes to show you that somewhere inside of us, there's an evil that will be evil.
You know? Bro, look at this. No, go up.
Go up. Go up.
He opposed the country's role in World War II and became so despondent about the war that he considered killing his wife and infant son with sleeping pills if Japan lost. Holy fuck, dude.
Company, man. Jesus Christ, that's so scary.
It's heartbreaking. So the sky was lit lit with a blaze the lightning of a huge magnesium flare

Oh my god

He saw the Enola gay fly over Hiroshima and drop an item carried by two parachutes

Suddenly he said the sky lit with a blaze. Oh my god.
Do you have a bomb shelter Joe?

Do you have a bomb?

I should probably get one

But I really think that if a nuclear war breaks out you really want to be like right where the nuke hits You want to end you don't want to be made you don't want to live in a zombie apocalypse like post war I think I fainted for a while when I Oh the ground roared and an ear-shattering noise ripped through the air tossing Yamaguchi into the air as a fireball imploded overhead.

He was dropped face-first into a muddy furrow.

The protective measures he took likely saved his life.

A woman who had been walking beside him shortly before the blast disappeared altogether.

I think I fainted for a while.

When I opened my eyes, everything was dark.

I couldn't see much.

It was like the start of a film at the cinema before the picture has begun when the blank frames are just flashing up without any sound unreal

Fuck dude. Look at it.
Look like

Fuck can you even fathom one second? It looks one way and the next second looks another way and no one's ever done this before that

We know of on earth

And then they just decided to drop it on a city. Jesus.
And they did it again. Boom, boom.
The scene in the Oppenheimer when they're deciding where to do it, if that's how it went down, is crazy. Nuts.
I gotta watch that. That movie's crazy.
Is it? It's crazy. Yeah, because you get to see, first of all, that dude, Cillian Murphy, that guy's incredible.
He's incredible. Yeah, he's good.
That's the dude from the Peaky Blinders? Oh, yeah. He's so good.
He's such a good actor. And so he nailed this tortured genius, Oppenheimer, and this creation that he made.
It'd be so scary, something you thought was probably for a purpose in the beginning, and then you changed your mind during it. Well, also, you have to do it, because if you don't do it, if the Germans get it, they're going to kill everybody.
Still wounded and heavily banished, Yamaguchi returned to work on August 9, the day Nagasaki was bombed. He was providing his supervisor a detailed account of the Hiroshima bombing when the landscape outside the office suddenly lit up in a blinding light, and Yamaguchi fell to the floor as shockwaves destroyed the windows.
so Wow.

That's crazy.

That's when you just got to shoot.

That's crazy.

A reinforced stairwell in the office

protected the conference room where Yamaguchi and his colleagues were.

Jesus Christ.

They just heard his story.

And he said it says someone took cover in a manner similar to how he described in Hiroshima.

His wife was soaked in black rain and was poisoned.

As their daughter later recalled, in the subsequent weeks, Yamaguchi suffered high fever, severe loss, continuous vomiting, and other symptoms from radiation poisoning. Motherfucker, dude.
How much would have to happen in America for things to get to a place where people are just like, every man for himself? Like, do you feel like... Like that.
Like that kind of thing. Power going out.
Yeah. What keeps us together is electricity, right now.
The way society is structured. We are so dependent upon electricity upon electricity that without electricity.
We don't have anything. We don't have any cooling.
We have no ice. We have no way of Processing water.
Yeah, we're fucked without electricity. We have no transportation.
We're really fucked without electricity Electricity without oil that any fuel at all we're doomed. We're fucking doomed and all we have is burning things and do you think for the first day people would be kind of organized like let's see what happens here watching the news and then the second day shit would get awol like how quick would people as soon as people ran out of food and that doesn't take long that's a few days it's a few days and then everyone's like oh i'm gonna get a rifle, learn how to hunt.
Good luck. Not at the last minute.
What are you going to put an ad at the last minute? Sorry, it's so late, guys. Need to learn how to hunt or whatever.
Now, by the way, if everybody goes hunting, here's the dirty secret about hunting. The reason why hunting works is because everybody doesn't hunt.
If everybody hunted, there'd be no more animals. They almost did that in the 1800s, man.
They started doing what they call market hunting. And market hunting almost wiped out everything in this country.
It almost wiped out all the elk, wiped out most of the buffalo, almost wiped out whitetail deer. Really? Yeah, man.
Because people were hunting them. They could hunt as much as they wanted? As much as they wanted.
There was no regulation and they were selling the meat and there was no refrigeration. So you have to kill them all the time.
So they would hire professional hunters and that's how they would get their meat. And they were just devastating populations of animals.
I mean, you've seen the piles of buffalo bones, right? Terrifying. They killed millions of buffalo in a few years.
They brought the herds down to nothing in a few years. Got got that close to total extinction and was that because people were like expanding west and they needed food they needed food they needed the skins they wanted the tongues pickled tongues was a big delicacy on the east coast so it would shoot them for their tongue only which is crazy so you're taking one of the biggest animals that lives in north america and you're slaughtering it just for the smallest Organ or the smallest thing their tongue Yeah, so people did that already and if there's no power, there's not enough food There's just not yeah, we don't have enough wild game for 330 million people for a year forget about forever We don't huh? We don't we definitely don't't we definitely 100 don't and the only reason why you can have these giant populations of people like los angeles the only way you can have that is farmers right you have to have farmers you have to have people that are fucking fully dedicated 24 hours a day to growing animals and food all the time to supply those people amen so if you looked at the amount of farmers versus the amount of people that they feed, it's crazy.
Oh, that's a great point how exponential it probably is, huh? Crazy. So if all that's gone, then all those people have no food.
And then where are they getting it? Are they going to be willing to, like, how are they going to learn how to herd cattle? And the farmers are going to be sitting there licking their chops. Well, they're going to be killed, most likely.
Oh, people are going to try to get them for their food. Yeah.
But the farmers will be ready. For a while.
You know, how long can you hold off millions of people with guns? The United States has more guns than most of the world. We have 40% of the firearms on Earth.
Fuck yeah. They're making do it for a while, I guess if that statistic is true i believe it is i think the american people have an uh exponential number in comparison to every other country we're we have so much more weapons in any other country and i think we have more guns than the entire chinese army by a large no way really yeah by a large amount they just the american population has more guns it's so embedded in our culture because i'll meet people sometimes in like you guys have all these guns it's like what do you there's no way to not have guns here well there's more guns than there are people here but how would you even do it if somebody were like you should get rid of gun right can you hear people say that sometimes it's like well you're not going to get rid of guns altogether.
You're not going to eliminate the technology, right?

So the technology, if it exists, someone's going to have the guns.

Who's going to have those guns?

Well, you're going to have the government's going to have the guns.

So you're basically giving the guns to people that are known liars, who've been manipulating and controlling people from the beginning of time.

You can't have that.

And the reason why the United States has such a unique freedom is because the First Amendment is protected by the Second Amendment. Didn't Chris Rock have a bit about that? I believe he did.
I'm not sure if he did. I believe Chris Rock had a bit about that.
He probably did. I think he did.
One last question before we go, Joe. What's up, Jamie? 35% to 50% of the guns, somewhere in the range of 270 million out of the 645 million total.
Guns in America? It's close to 42%. It's a big estimate.
42% of the guns in the world. Right here, baby.
His dog's over there snoring. You know why? Because he could sleep well.
There's hard men out there with pistols protecting that little dog. Dogs used to be there to protect us.
Carl ain he's protecting nobody. Carl bites me full blast every day.
Really? Sure. He loves that.
He loves to meet a man with his face. He doesn't hurt you.
He doesn't? No, he's adorable. Yeah.
But you know what I'm saying? We need to protect Carl. He can't protect us.
That's how soft people have gotten. Listen to him or they're snoring.
You hear him? Yeah. He sounds like Lee Syed a little When Lee gets too many edibles They're back The Church of What's Happening Now is back Isn't that amazing? I was telling Joey for a while I orchestrated getting the two of them together at the mothership I'm like Gotta get you guys together I was putting it in his ear I'm like Joey You you guys got to bring the band back we're gonna we're gonna joey and and lee in new in california when they had that show it was in this weird little office building so bizarre you'd park out there you'd be lucky to find a spot it had a really 80s vibe out there they had like one kind of neon kind of light that was kind of like they'd have their door for their office like open a little bit.
And it didn't seem like it was an office. It seemed like it was a place where they shot like kind of quick porn.
Did you ever see the one episode where they had an office building at one point in time with a bunch of other people that had office buildings? And Joe, who's too loud, and they were yelling at him to be quiet. He's like, shut the fuck up.
No, it was amazing. We used to share all a nail salon for a while.
Really? Yeah, and they'd always be chattering in there and yelling about stuff. It was fun.
Oh, that's okay. Some of that was fun, dude.
I remember we used to share a wall with Fighter and the Kid for a while, and that was so much fun. We'd bang on the wall at each other.
There was a bunch of podcasts that were being done in a couple areas like that in California, where they had little podcast studio places where several sets would be. It was so much fun.
But those guys, they'd always ran into some money problem. There was always some producer that was taking too much money, and they wanted to control the show.
I ran into so many dudes that had podcast deals that went south. And it was, again, the same kind of thing, power and corruption.
Yeah. there's so many guys who had podcast deals and then they the the people that they did this that had this network wound up owning their podcast and selling their pocket and they're like what the fuck they just got robbed yeah we got robbed i mean we got stolen from you got literally robbed yeah but we didn't uh we still had ownership you know yeah but they stole your ad revenue right yeah for a year Yeah, man, there was a lot of dirty business in the podcast world.
It was dark. Well, it's the Wild West, right? It was a completely new thing.
And all of a sudden, when the money spigot opened, it just opened. Like, woo! Like, I made no money for like five years.
I just did it for funsies. And then all of a sudden, the spigot just opened.
Yeah, you're spigot. Yeah, really.
You're the most open spigot. Right now really you're the most open spigot right now.
I have the most open spigot Congratulations Thank you you work harder than any podcaster by far man, and you're so great at it, man Well, you got to keep your foot on the gas on that's the thing about podcasts or anything else when you've got I know if you like you're essentially you're running a business, right? What is the business business is interesting content. All right.
How much are you actually interested in interesting content? Because if you're not, it's not going to work. So you've got to be fully interested, which I am.
That's where I'm lucky. I'm lucky that I'm interested in all these things.
Oh, yeah. Pay attention to this shit.
Even if I wasn't talking about it, I'd be watching podcasts on this kind of shit because I'm interested. I'm interested in ancient civilizations.
I'm interested in cultures. Oh, yeah.
yeah well we learn a lot of stuff by listening to you learn it man so it's cool you know um i one question i know you one time we were talking about if you ever retired right yeah and you said maybe you would start painting maybe if you ever retired did i say that yeah it could have been okay even if you were i was probably taking some of that delta eight what's it called the stuff they have out here delta eight it's legal it's a legal loophole legal weed yeah i'm all fucked up on delta eight son you had a delta eight you had a bit you had a oh there's a bunch of delta eight out here but are you still using it it's legit oh yeah sure it is it is it's at a gas station like bon was asking. Like boner pills.
They work.

Talk to Red Band.

One of those makes your nose bleed really bad.

Red Band stuff.

Those aggressive rhinos, whatever those ones are.

Oh, yeah.

They make your fucking nose bleed.

Red Band's a connoisseur.

He'll tell you what the good ones are.

Oh, I went down the road.

I used to get them from India.

I used to get all that shit.

From India?

Yeah.

Jeez.

But what would you paint, dude? That's what I was thinking. I was just thinking about you painting was thinking i was lying i was lying you were yeah i had to be i'm not interested in painting come on man no man if i if i was gonna retire i want a damn lithograph dude you know if i was gonna retire i would just bow hunt and play pool that's what i would do if i said i don't want to do anything for money from now on i would bow hunt and play pool i try to play pool for money but i'll never win any money I can never beat the best guys if you think you could have devoted so much as much time Do you because that's one thing you start to learn about life? It's like I only have so much time right if you could have devoted as much time You think you think you could have been really good at it I know you really loved it pool was a if pool you really love it sport when I was in my 20s 100% I would have become a professional pool.
100%. I wanted to play pool all the time.
Because it was a population of misfits. That's what it was.
It wasn't just the game itself. It was the misfits.
I always felt like a misfit. When I was a kid, I felt like a misfit.
You know, moved around a lot. My parents broke up when I was young.
I never felt like I fit in anywhere until I started hanging around the pool hall. I was like, oh, these guys are just like me.
They're all people that they're just too ADD to ever keep a real job. They're just nutty people.
And they all had like different things that they did for money. But what they were really obsessed with was that game was playing pool and going to pool halls.
Cause you'd go to pool halls and it was a bunch bunch of guys like you just a bunch of weirdos who are just wanting to laugh and have fun and play this game yeah yeah maybe yeah that maybe that would be nice and painting the problem with painting is you know i'd look i love art if i was called to paint like if it felt like something, maybe I would get into doing it.

But that's not what I'm interested in right now.

You know?

Yeah.

Maybe I would be.

But I don't think so.

You know, I think if I retire, I'm just going to pursue interests.

I'm just going to like learn languages and shit and just do something different.

Yeah.

I don't think when I stop doing this, I'm ever going to do anything else publicly i probably i won't want to anymore i'll get to a point where i think a lot of people get to where they're just like eh i'm one off this ride do you ever wear a disguise when you go places like if you every day i'm wearing a disguise right now like tall biden remember when they had the fake was that real though was that a tall guy a tall guy get fucked a tall guy pretended to be but 100 wasn't biden the cia has had like super sophisticated outfits look have you seen adam ray when he when he dresses up like dr phil yeah sometimes you forget pretty fucking good he did we did uh i saw that he did b did bro i mean and this is like easy two hours of

makeup they're not even trying to make him look real he looks real he looks it's crazy this is

him like 20 minutes in his car to put yeah all you need is a dude with similar face structure to

biden and you can make him biden 100 and i think they definitely did that i think there was a point

america we're protecting you theo vaughn we can't have china think that our president is down and that kamala harris is running the military come on son we know what we're doing pull up the photo what about the video of the tall biden because there ain't no way it's the same dude because he wasn wasn't even a little taller. Bring that honky up.

You know what I'm saying?

It wasn't like...

It was like Bobby Lee next to Ari.

Yeah.

It was like something is different.

Not the same guy.

He's so much taller.

He was like six inches taller.

Like not a little taller. And they're like, we got nobody nobody No, we got nobody now look at the size of this motherfucker Oh, get fucked.
That's not real. That's real.
Look at the size Look at the size of his legs. Is that will Ferrell bro? That guy's a basketball player.
They got some Remember the difference in size So that's the real Biden And Trump really met him

And that's the real Obama

Real Obama, real Biden

Now give me fake Biden again

No, no, no, fake one

The giant

No, no, no, no, the giant one when he's walking around

This one, this video

Who is that?

Bro, look at how much taller he is than Jill

He's never that much taller than Jill Jill's wearing heels,, son. Look at her heels.
See her heels elevated in the back? She's wearing heels. He's towering over her.
That's a giant Biden. That's Sasquatch.
Wow. That's really, really interesting.
Do people have done, like, a comparison to his height compared to like what he normally is?

Tall Biden was a real thing.

Oh, do you think what happens to him after he goes away in office?

What happens to him?

Jimmy Carter.

He votes like this.

You think?

He can't wait to vote for Pete Buttigieg.

They roll him out there.

Who controls Joe Biden if he's not controlling himself? Whoever is letting him fucking pardon 8 million people. Some of the guys said they don't want the pardon.
You see that? Bro, he's pardoned more people than anybody ever by a long shot. He's got all timeers.
Tiger King, too, somebody said. Oh, he better pardon Tiger King.
I think he did. Didn't he just? Somebody said he just pardoned him.
Did he? That can't be real. I saw that it's a little overinflated because of all the marijuana charges that got added in.
For Tiger King? They threw all those people in. No, and Joe Biden's pardoned.
Oh, I want to see that mad slurper get back out. That's a good thing that he's doing that, but he's still pardoned more people than anybody ever.
Bro, when Tiger King gets back out of here, fucking wait, America. He'll be a guest on this podcast.
Oh, yeah. With a knee brace, pistol on his hip.
With that whip? Yeah. He'll try to fuck Jamie for sure.
He's going to fucking slurp on somebody, dude. He again lobbies for presidential pardon.
Jamie, what are the odds this guy tries to fuck you if we bring him in the studio? No way. It's 100%.
Not that he's going to fuck you. No way would he.
I'd be the first one on his list. I don't know.
All the people in the building. I don't know.
You're the guy who moves on. There's a couple other people.
No, no, no, no. We'll hold him back by the hips.

We'll have ground.

He moves on you.

We'll have side control on him.

He moves on you.

You're a nice guy.

I shaved my mustache.

Maybe that's what it is.

The mustache.

He's trying.

He's trying, but they're not going to let him out.

Maybe they should.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I wonder if he got out of this and wonder what kind of job he would get into.

They're not going to let him work offshore or whatever.

Stuffed animals. He's all his own stuffed animals.
Yeah. Open his own Build-A-Bear.
Build-A-Tiger. You know? He's just in there helping you stuff it.
Yeah. You stuff it.
And then the little recording thing when you have the little thing in there where you press the button and it gives a little recording. One of my kids, I used to have one for one of my daughters where she'd squeeze it and say,

Daddy loves you.

Oh, that's sweet.

It was adorable.

That's what he's going to do.

He's going to do that for people.

Same thing.

I want to suck your cock.

Daddy loves you.

I want to suck your cock.

Hey.

Hey.

What you doing

with all that cock?

Huh?

I think this is,

this got me.

Take me to the river. I'm looking around just Twitter and he tweeted that yesterday No he didn't Look at that Please repost, comment And tag anyone If you can show support Right now more than ever Why am I in the back? Is that really true? That's a real photo You don't forget it happening? You don't remember that podcast? That was right after You did Bertie Sanders That guy came in.
What is it like for you? Can I ask you this? You're interviewing legitimate people now. You interviewed Trump.
You interviewed Bernie Sanders. You interviewed who else? J.D.
Walsh. Who else did you interview? You've interviewed a lot of very interesting people.
Are you enjoying that? Yeah, I think I am, man. I've been trying to learn more.
So that's been one of my goals. You're doing a great job.
Thanks, God. Because you get silly.
You're still yourself. You're still silly.
But you're having real conversations with these people. Thanks.
Bobby Kennedy. Yeah, for sure.
I mean, I knew Bobby, which was lucky. And we were going through Vermont, and Bernie said he would come on the podcast.
So that was super fortunate. And then Dana helped.
You know, I wanted to talk to Trump because his brother had died of alcoholism. And it was like a world that I had like spent a lot of my life like, you know, in and dealing with.
And so I wanted to like just see what he like if he was normal about something like that, I guess. So, yeah, but I think it's been interesting.
I think it felt like a lot of response. I started to have some ego issues, I think.
I was just trying to be like, you know, just know what you're doing, man. You don't have some big responsibility.
I think I had this ego trap where it maybe felt, I just had to kind of manage some stuff for a little bit. But I've been feeling better now, I think.
Like what was the trap? you just start to think oh well i'm important right and it's okay if i am like it's okay if i have importance to myself and and there's things that i want to like examine and learn for myself and and that sort of thing but your role as an important person right you started thinking about that because you're getting a lot of views right i think it started to just scare me so i I got nervous. And then I had people that would ask me about stuff that I felt like I didn't know about or people would think that I knew more than I did or like I had something to do with like the election, like things like that made me super kind of nervous.
Got it. And so I think I just was kind of trying to manage that for a bit.
And, um, but I've been feeling like better about it. And I know some places are things to be funny.

Some places are things that mean something to me.

Just like learning about health care and people getting screwed. Like there are some like smaller causes.

I can't learn about everything.

But there's some things that I do care about that I can like like seek more information about, you know.

And then to just try to get more interested in things like just be, you know, learn about when I open myself up to learn about learn about more things you know so that's the key is like knowing when to just listen when to when to try to be funny just fuck around learn how to be yourself yeah the more you do them the more relaxed you get when you do them you know yeah that happens too i mean this is probably the most relaxed i felt like being around you today you know around me yeah i? Yeah, I think I just like, yeah, sometimes you get nervous.

Do you get nervous just because so many people are listening?

Is that what it is?

The numbers?

Yeah, I think at first.

And then I think, yeah, I mean, I look up to you, I think.

And so, you know, and you're the champ.

You're the best.

And so it's like, I don't know if it's a nerd.

I don't know what it is.

But sometimes I feel something, you know?

Well, thank you, but you don't need to.

You don't need to feel that.

Like, you know well thank you but you don't need to you don't need to feel that like you and i've been friends for a long fucking time you could be yourself yeah you remind me of that and i appreciate it you know because it does it does help i think it's just like an old thing of like um it's like an old energy thing that doesn't make any sense anymore you know yeah but sometimes like that template is still there a little bit right right well that's a hollywood template right like the people that are more established and bigger it's like oh there's johnny carson yeah you know there's that you know gets oh yeah yeah yeah you always anytime i think that way you always bring it back down to a super normal place so thank you um but it should be super normal that's really the appeal of all this that we do is that it is super normal. Is that a guy like you can have no pretense and just ask Bernie Sanders questions? Like, why the fuck are they getting away with this? Like, why? Why is it structured this way? Why are these corporations stealing all this money and fucking everybody out? All these, you know, why was why is this happening? Yeah.
And those are it's if you can have those real conversations, this is the only place where they exist. Then you're never going to get these kind of conversations on a late night talk show you don't you're not going to get them they don't have these kind of that there's it's not possible you you can't go into depth about things there's no way you can go for hours and hours just talking to people you can't do it yeah yeah man and i think it's interesting it's like you know there's still things that i want to do in my life personally and there's like talking with people has helped me a ton, you know, like even just confidence from being like, you know, from getting to talk with different UFC fighters and things over the years.
Like there's a lot of like people that I've gotten to speak to or people I've heard on your shows and other shows that inspire me like in little moments of my life, you know, like it's important, you know? Yeah. So I don't know.
I definitely, I mean, I feel like, you know, I just want to, you know, try so i i don't know i definitely i mean i feel like you know i just want to you know try my best keep learning i don't know and just have a good time too well you seem like you're having a good time yeah and you're doing a great job you really are and you're getting really good at it like the more you do it the better you get at it you can really tell there's a lot of good people podcasting now it's an awesome time you and tim dylan did that episode the last one you guys did he's the best he's he's the absolute best at the rant nobody else no champ like him he's the number one he's the michael jordan of the rant yeah even seeing shane seeing shane for literally my mom texted me last night she's like i uh that's shane gillis he just makes some of the best faces right away and so even earlier we go back to you're like i got shane gillis back here i thought you were it was like a new beverage or something you had made and uh so i go back and there's a sauna back there by your gym you never saw the gym before i can't believe you never saw the gym pretty dope right yeah the gym's great but i didn't think you had a shane gill tap. So we fucking go in there, and there's a meat closet where you're drying aged beef.
I actually do have one of those. Yeah, of course.
And there's a fucking full-body strap of Shane Gillis hanging in that bitch. And he just puts his head up near the glass.
And that moment alone, like, oh, that was the best, dude. Doesn't it make you want to move here? Yeah, it definitely helps, man.
I'm starting to look. Because I'm not having, I got to get a family soon, too, dude.
Get yourself a nice Texas girl. I know.
I am. Come on, bro.
I am. I'm motivated.
Great ladies. Let's put that energy out there.
Get Theo a nice Texas girl. I know they're out here.
There's a ton of them out here. This is the greatest place in the world to be a single guy like you.
Is it? Yeah. It seems very diverse here too.
People are friendly. They're genuinely friendly.
And they're not friendly because they want something from you like LA. They're not friendly because you're famous and friendly because they want to get famous too.
They're just friendly. Oh yeah, they're fun.
Nice people living their life. They're fun, boy.
Theo Vaughn, I love you to death. I love you too, man.
Thanks for everything. This is the end of part two.
There it is. That's both of them.
Jamie, thanks so much, dude. Nice to meet your dog for the second time.
Powerful Carl. Look at him over there.

Powerful Carl. Does he wake yet? He's waiting.
He's waiting. He wakes up when?

He wakes up right around now. He's like, probably about time for me to get up and start terrorizing

people again. Like China.
All right.

Bye, everybody. again like china all right bye everybody now i'm just floating on the breeze and i feel i'm falling

like these leaves i must be cornerstone

oh but when i reach that ground i'll share this peace of mind i found i can feel it

in my bones but it's gonna take a little time.