QB Breakdowns, Tom Brady's Announcing Debut & Jay Glazer—The Most Interesting Man in the World

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Speaker 2 Mind you, you know nothing about me when it comes to physical basketball ability. You know zero.
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Speaker 3 This is coming from the guy who stopped playing pickup basketball because, what, he pulled a hammy or you got fouled too hard?

Speaker 3 What happened? Why did you stop playing pickup?

Speaker 3 I stopped playing pickup because I had a double hip replacement. And by the way, I'm back.
I'm ready to go.

Speaker 2 It is just amazing how music can totally change your mood.

Speaker 3 Welcome to another episode of Profax.

Speaker 2 I'm Jerry Ferrara, always joined by Matt Lyon, who I realize, like, I feel like I'm robbing to your Batman. You just got Batman vibes.

Speaker 3 I got Robin vibes. It's all good.

Speaker 2 I've accepted it.

Speaker 3 Bro, no, dude.

Speaker 3 I'll be your Robin, buddy.

Speaker 2 I was saying it's amazing how music can change your mood because I've been in a bad mood all day since Sunday. A lot of it has to do with the Giants.
We're going to talk about the NFL for sure.

Speaker 2 We have a great guest lined up today joining us is Jay Glazer. You know him from NFL on Fox.
You, you got to know Glazer for a while now, right?

Speaker 3 I love, I love Jay. Go, I go all the way back to probably when I was drafted, but like 07.
I had some trained with him a little bit, just got to know him. He's, he's awesome, man.
Like,

Speaker 3 I would love to get in the mind of that guy. Like, the insider, the stories, like, he's, he's lived.
He's lived a great life so far.

Speaker 2 You know what I realized? I know Jay for a long time, too. He actually trained me, and we're going to talk to him about this and was prepping me for a movie.

Speaker 2 Even got me involved into a potential boxing match with an NFL player. We'll get into all that.

Speaker 2 But also, do you know what I think guys like Glazer, I often look and like, your phone must be really kept on lock. Have you ever gotten to that dude?

Speaker 2 Like, if he lost his phone, oh, yeah, that's, that's like his whole business. His whole business is in that phone.

Speaker 3 If he lost his phone, guys would be going to jail, probably.

Speaker 3 I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 I don't deny it.

Speaker 3 There's a lot of cover-ups in the NFL, buddy. There's a lot of cover-ups in the NFL.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, he broke Spygate, you know, and I'm sure a lot of that

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Speaker 2 so look we got nfl coming up but i did want to ask you this because i found myself thinking about this i was watching obviously michigan texas huge game you were there you were in michigan see mcconahey out there dressed as like a cowboy all right all right my guy jeter who in my eyes maybe might be my first or second favorite athlete of of all time.

Speaker 2 But then it hits me. I know the game was in Michigan, right? But obviously, Michigan's playing Texas.

Speaker 2 And I started thinking about, you know, I've had a lot of people over the years come up to me and talk a little shit.

Speaker 2 It's like, oh, that's a turtle from Entourage and tell me like, hey, you used to be really fat.

Speaker 3 Like, just talk trash to me.

Speaker 3 They're about to shame my YouTube fat shame.

Speaker 2 What is it like for you? I'm not saying there was tons of Texas fans there. What are Texas fans saying to you? Do they talk to you?

Speaker 3 You know, not not anymore you know we went to uh we went to texas last year and i always i always kind of have fun with it you know but we went to texas last year and it's just it's i honestly dude it's kind of sad but like i'm so old now that it's like all of the people that would be talking smack are like in their 40s

Speaker 3 maybe a little younger like they're all like families and they're just like If anything, if any, if they bring it up, they're like, oh, I was at the, you know, the 2006 Rose Bowl. What a great game.

Speaker 3 You know, so I, so I don't get a lot of that anymore, but I will say this, because this made me, that made me think of something when I first met my wife. Okay.

Speaker 3 I'm going to go, I'm going to take you back here. So I met my wife in like 12 years ago.
I had just retired, like literally right out there.

Speaker 3 So at that point, a lot of people were talking, you're a bust and this and all. Like that, that was like fresh, okay? Which is fine.

Speaker 3 We go to, God, you probably like, like we're going on a Saturday Okay, college football Saturday. This is before I'm working at Fox.
This is this is like fall. I'm fresh out of the game.

Speaker 3 I forget what bar it was. You would know it's in Hollywood.
It's like it was like one of the famous sports bars in Hollywood. Goal.
Is it goal? No, it wasn't goal.

Speaker 3 It's another one like that. Okay, whatever.
So I tell her, and we're meeting her friend. who went to UT.

Speaker 3 And I go, hey, babe, like, I just want to let you know that this is probably a bad idea for me to walk into a sports bar on a Saturday, fresh off of a retirement. Okay.
I'm just, she was a bliss.

Speaker 3 She didn't even know I won the Heisman Trophy, dude. Like, she could, she could care to, like, she could give to.

Speaker 2 So, you know, she loves you for you.

Speaker 3 She loves you for you. By the way, no doubt.
Absolutely. So actually, it's funny.
So I go, I go, I go, I'm just letting you know that this is a bad idea and I might walk out.

Speaker 3 I'm just letting you know like ahead of time. Dude, I walk in and with, and I'm also tall, right? So I stick out like a sword thorn.
I walk in and it's packed.

Speaker 3 And I'm just like, kind of like, you've probably been there, right?

Speaker 3 If you're like, maybe in your heyday, like you're kind of like, like, you're just like, you don't want to be seen, but like it's, it's impossible, dude.

Speaker 3 I start getting just talk about you getting fat shame, dude. I'm getting like career shamed.
I'm getting like,

Speaker 2 you sock liner.

Speaker 3 Get like, and I'm just like, and she goes, she was like, pulled my arm. She goes like, whoa.
I'm like, yeah, I told you, man. Like, what, like, oh, like, I actually instantly got in a bad mood.

Speaker 3 I go next door to like some random restaurant. It's this funny story.
So I go next door. I'm like, hey, you guys stay here.
I'm good, guys. Like, I'm just not going to be in here.
It's a bad idea.

Speaker 3 I go next door and she meets me. We're at like this little bar.
There's really no one in there. It's like a little restaurant.
I had a TV on there. And all of a sudden, a Heisman commercial came on.

Speaker 3 And she goes, this is how great my wife is. She goes, hey, didn't you win that thing or something? Like, I'm like, yeah, like, I won it.

Speaker 3 You know, I won it a couple of years ago like big deal and that was that was my day so for fans heckling like back in the day it was awful now it's more like you know what i get now i get more like hey you're that guy on uh social media like oh you you and your wife like you're funny like that that type so you're funny on tick tock yeah dude i've become i'm i'm like a i'm an influencer now and i'm i'm definitely not an athlete sometimes i forget i even played football dude uh but fans are great fans are great for the most part um urban meyer in michigan is not so great that dude got booed the whole show it was fantastic i imagine and didn't you did you ask him said last i saw this on social media you were like how much money would you would you would it cost to make dude i said 25 stacks dude sign me up i'll coach at notre dame for 25 mil a year you be my oc dude

Speaker 2 i'll be the water boy right you pay right yeah i'll be the water boy well i yeah i was wondering that because nah it's not that big of a deal well look it does i don't want to say cross the line, but everyone knows I'm a Giants fan.

Speaker 2 I mentioned the music earlier in the show because I have been in a bad mood.

Speaker 2 I had the awesome sports trifecta where you lose every single fantasy league, you lose every single bet, and then your favorite team gets smacked around.

Speaker 2 I found myself on the couch eight hours later, just what am I doing with my life? Why did I just put myself through all those losses? And then you see the fan after the Giants game, right?

Speaker 2 And I don't know what your take is on this. It's one thing like, all right, you went to a sports bar.

Speaker 2 You knew what you were walking into. Daniel Jones was just leaving the facility and that one fan waded around talking all sorts of trash.
And then the burning of the jerseys.

Speaker 2 Someone needs to explain. Someone needs to explain this to me.

Speaker 3 Dude, Cleveland, Cleveland burned LeBron's jerseys when he left.

Speaker 2 And I thought that's the dumbest thing ever. It doesn't make you like a die-hard fan.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, listen,

Speaker 3 I think from a fan's perspective, clearly, right? And you're as passionate as they come. Like you pay the dude 50 mil, you just expect more, right? You expect more.

Speaker 3 It's just like, and it's, it's now years and years of agony, maybe at that position. And again, I've always been a fan of Daniel Jones.
I kind of continue to root for him. I hope he pulls it out.

Speaker 3 I've been in that situation a little bit where it's just like, dude, it just sucks, dude. Like, it's tough.
You're in the New York market.

Speaker 3 Now, granted, he's making a lot of money.

Speaker 3 But yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, like we always, like as athletes, it's like one of those things where like, don't feel bad for for us, but we would never go to someone else's workplace and just start, like,

Speaker 3 talking that person. You suck at acting, Jerry.
Screw you. Like, you just, like, it just wouldn't cross my mind, nor would it cross Daniel Jones.

Speaker 3 So, like, is there a point where it's, it's taken too far? Absolutely. Do I understand the passion of a New York fan, a New York fan now that I know you better?

Speaker 3 I get it, but like, well, it doesn't accomplish anything. It just makes you look like an idiot.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I've never burned a jersey. I've never thought about burning a jersey.
I don't get just throw the thing away if you don't want to run it.

Speaker 3 How long does your

Speaker 3 like Giants hangover last?

Speaker 3 I think I'm in for it.

Speaker 2 I think I'm in for it with this one. It brought back other memories too as I'm sitting there because I haven't been to a Giants game since 08.

Speaker 2 And I was thinking maybe this year, maybe I'll take like my oldest kid. I'll go back to New York.
We'll go to a Giants game.

Speaker 2 I haven't been to, I went to the Super Bowl last year, but I don't go to a lot of football games, not like basketball. And then I was reminded of a story which happened on a Thursday in 08.

Speaker 2 And it was supposed to be like the greatest week of my life, right?

Speaker 2 We fly back to New York from LA. Entourage going into season five.

Speaker 2 We're having our New York premiere of season five of Entourage, which is always way more fun than the LA premiere because it's all our family and our friends, and it's just wild party, great times.

Speaker 2 We do that on a Wednesday. Next day, Thursday.

Speaker 2 I remember September 4th. Giants opening up against the then Redskins, getting their rings.
You know, Strayhan comes out of like a float. Unbelievable night.
I'm sitting, I'm on the field.

Speaker 2 I get to put on the ring. I'm sitting first row.
Giants totally hooked me up. Watch the whole game.
I'm there like my cousins. Giants win.
Awesome night.

Speaker 2 I go home thinking, wow, this is almost like an episode of Entourage.

Speaker 2 I'm living the dream. It does not get better than this.
I wake up the next day at seven o'clock in the morning to 300 missed calls, 400 text messages. I'm immediately thinking, who died?

Speaker 2 Someone's dead. This is awful.
Someone in my family's dead.

Speaker 2 I find out that, look, in New York, WFAN is an institution of a sports radio station. It just is.
I listened to it as a kid. I still respect it.

Speaker 2 They move a conversation in New York with sports easily. So what happened was they're doing, at the time, it was Craig Carton and Boomer Esaison.

Speaker 2 They're doing their very big radio show in the morning. And I think, if memory serves me, Boomer's assistant comes in to tell a story about being at the Giants Redskins game.
Said, yeah, I was there.

Speaker 2 It was great. I was on the field.
And, you know, that guy, Turtle from Entourage, whatever, he like sent one of his boys up to me talking about a hotel party after the game.

Speaker 2 And do I want to come back?

Speaker 3 Is that a true story?

Speaker 2 Matt, they are crushing me on my hometown radio network, a place I really respect.

Speaker 3 Boomer, burying me. All my friends are like, you're an idiot.

Speaker 2 How could you do that? What's wrong with you? Matt, want to know what I was most offended by?

Speaker 2 You are questioning my fandom by thinking I would be at a game like that trying to invite some girl back to a hotel party. First of all, I'd never send another dude up to a girl for me.

Speaker 2 Secondly, I was already in something that was a pretty good situation with the woman at the time.

Speaker 3 Not my wife right now.

Speaker 2 And I don't think I've gotten more calls about that. To this day, they still talk about it.
They still every now and then fire it up and trash me.

Speaker 3 Okay, let me add.

Speaker 2 Did not happen. Did not happen.

Speaker 3 Okay. So she just made that up out of the blue.

Speaker 2 No, here's what I do think happened. Now, I was at the game with a friend and a cousin-in-law who is, he's married to my cousin.
Do you think I would send the guy who's married to my business?

Speaker 3 Someone threw you in his cousin. Someone threw you under the bus, dude.

Speaker 2 For sure.

Speaker 2 Do you think it's crazy to say that someone went up there, saw me on the field, saw her, and went up and said, I'm going to pretend to be Turtle's boy over here and see if we could talk to this girl.

Speaker 2 Because I could promise you, the two other people I was with, it was not them. And I did not send them.
And they tell this story to this day.

Speaker 3 To this day.

Speaker 3 First of all, we need to get Boomer on the pod. That's for sure.
Because I want to hear this story. Does he still hate you?

Speaker 2 I don't know if he hates me. I think he enjoys frying me to the point where I've gone back and forth with them on Twitter about this.

Speaker 3 Does he still fry you?

Speaker 2 I think they most recently talked about it like six or seven months ago. And here's the funny thing.
I almost worked at WFAN.

Speaker 3 They offered me a job. Dude, that's got to just be like a dagger to your heart, dude, that your local radio station just doesn't like you.

Speaker 2 And I haven't been to a Giants game since then.

Speaker 3 Well,

Speaker 3 dude, you got to take the boys. That's an experience.
As bad as they may be or are, there's nothing better than taking.

Speaker 3 Because your oldest is five. I'm five, right?

Speaker 3 Yeah, so he's probably, he's probably there. He's probably ready to go sit through that.
That might be tough. That might actually be a tough three hours for you, though, if they're losing.

Speaker 2 They're going to be losing, which brings me to maybe to my next point.

Speaker 2 I know, I know quarterback is everything in the NFL right now.

Speaker 3 I get it. Facts.

Speaker 2 I have held on to the Daniel Jones thing maybe longer than anyone else.

Speaker 2 It's got to be over. I'm not trying to overreact to one game.
They made the Vikings look like Super Bowl contenders. So I think it's time to start.
Am I, are we drafting a quarterback officially?

Speaker 3 Well, we can ask Lazer that because that's actually a good point. Yeah, I want to ask Jay.
I want to ask Jay, like, who do the Giants take?

Speaker 3 Dude, I feel you. I got to be honest with you.
I feel you on this. I have been a Danny Dimes.
I saw someone calling him what, Danny Penny's. Oh, dude, poor guy.

Speaker 3 Although his pockets are deep, so he's got that.

Speaker 3 Yeah, listen, I like the screen, the pick six, like

Speaker 3 that is just the worst luck. I've had that happen.
Like

Speaker 3 even like, I don't know what Aaron Rodgers, who threw a pick, someone threw a, it got tipped, right? Like every time that ball didn't get tipped by Danny Dimes, I understand.

Speaker 3 That went right to the defensive end. He made a great play.
Yeah, I mean, dude, it's just like he made a great play. That's a screen.
The ball gets out of time.

Speaker 2 You never see that happen. You rarely see

Speaker 2 that pick six on a screen.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 3 But that just doesn't. And I understand, but it's also like defensive players never make that play, too.
So like, I can defend it both ways. It's a bad play, dude.
It sucks, and it makes him look bad.

Speaker 3 I think he's got more pick sixes than touchdown passes or something. I saw that stat like in the last year or something, something, something wild.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 Andrew might be able to, our producer might be able to lift that. I think he's got more pick sixes than actual touchdown passes.
There's something floating around out there.

Speaker 3 Dude, the island is bleak. It's barren.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but, you know,

Speaker 3 I don't know. I mean, what do you want as a Giants fan? You want, who is it, Tyrock? Or who's the backup?

Speaker 2 It's Drew Locke.

Speaker 3 Drew Locke. You want to see Drew Locke?

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, not yet, but I think you have to run Danny Dimes out there as painful.

Speaker 3 Who knows?

Speaker 2 This could all be part of the plan. It might just be like, hey, let's just get a top three pick, draft quarterback.

Speaker 2 They were trying to get.

Speaker 3 a quarterback in the draft.

Speaker 2 They tried to move up, and then they did pass on Penix and McCarthy. So I guess how bad did they really want it?

Speaker 2 Is it the sort of thing though, where now the situation is just so bad, it's irreparable? Because he's in also a pretty bad situation.

Speaker 2 Not only is he playing bad, but he's also in a pretty rough situation for a quarterback. Is this one of the worst situations you could be in?

Speaker 3 Yeah, dude. And that's what I always think of.
Now, he's not young, but I always think of quarterbacks, and a lot of success

Speaker 3 is driven on your surrounding cast. It's driven on

Speaker 3 coaching, it's driven on franchise.

Speaker 3 And like, I will say this, like quarterbacks can go to certain places and just die. They can.
And what I mean by that is if you go to a place who won an owner or a franchise

Speaker 3 notoriously hasn't invested in the team and what's best in the team, right?

Speaker 3 There's a handful of places that I could mention and we know, okay?

Speaker 3 Or

Speaker 3 they don't spend money, or they don't want to put your quarterback in a position to be successful.

Speaker 3 And if you look at Daniel Jones, and again, he's had ample opportunity, but their offensive line has been terrible.

Speaker 3 I couldn't, I know they just drafted Malik Neighbors, who I think is going to be a star, but he's a rookie.

Speaker 3 They got rid of the best player on the team in Saquon Barkley, who went off for the Phillies in week one or Philadelphia in week one.

Speaker 3 If you don't have a surrounding cast,

Speaker 3 I'm telling you, man, like, like, I'm telling you, like, two or three years go by, then all of a sudden, you're just, you're, you're done. He now,

Speaker 3 for Daniel Jones, he's done enough where you saw potential, right? You guys got to a playoff, right?

Speaker 2 Two years ago against those very Vikings.

Speaker 3 So I'm saying, like, he's done enough. So he's in a little different place.
I look at some of these quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 I want to mention Sam Darnold, okay? And I know he beat your Giants. I've hated on him the whole time.

Speaker 3 Okay, and listen to this. He goes to the New York Jets, what, five years ago? Yep.
They were awful, dude. Awful.
Awful. And what happened? He's getting, he's just getting crushed out there.

Speaker 3 He can't handle it. Blah, blah, blah.
Sam Darnold is talented. Now, like, is he a top 10 quarterback? Probably not.
He is talented. He is getting crushed.
Why? They got nobody around him.

Speaker 3 His coaching was absolutely horrendous. He goes to Carolina.
And by the way, Carolina's even worse. And we could talk about Bryce Young here in a second.
Carolina's even worse.

Speaker 3 Look at Baker Mayfield in Carolina. Look what he's doing now.
Look at what Sam Darnold.

Speaker 3 Sam Darnold goes to the Minnesota Vikings, a good franchise with a freaking awesome head coach and an offensive-minded play caller. And look what happened.

Speaker 3 I know it's one week, but I'm telling you, Sam Darnold is going to have a great year. He's going to have a great year.
I promise you right now.

Speaker 2 He's not comeback player of the year, though.

Speaker 3 He's not, he might not be comeback player of the year, but the dude, like when you're in a system, I'm telling you, when you're in a system and you're coached, I've been coached in a quarterback room where I was literally saying like, my son knows more, my unborn son knows more than this quarterback coach.

Speaker 3 It is, it is mind-boggling

Speaker 3 how bad some NFL coaches are. So all that being said, dude, like, it's tough.

Speaker 3 Danny Dimes has been there for a while, but I'm telling you, man, when you go to a place and you don't have guys around you, like, it can just, it can just deteriorate very, very quickly.

Speaker 2 Well, someone I know who might be liking what's going on with the Giants is Philly's own Andrew Gunling, our producer, who just sent us in the chat a tweet from Josh Dubo.

Speaker 2 Basically, since signing a four-year, $160 million contract with the Giants before last season, Daniel Jones has thrown more TD passes to the opposition,

Speaker 2 three pick sixes, than to his own team, two TD passes. I don't know.

Speaker 2 That's why when you look at the Dak Prescott signing, it's like, yeah, of course.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Whether you think Dak is an amazing quarterback or not, he's a good quarterback.

Speaker 3 He's got to pay for it. Really good quarterback.

Speaker 3 By the way,

Speaker 2 talk about walking into a game.

Speaker 3 Who slept better Sunday night than Dak Prescott? Dude, Dax won 65% of his starts. Think about that.

Speaker 2 All I know is he got paid, and then you would have said, okay, this will be really interesting. He got that big contract.
They announced it before the game.

Speaker 2 And if he goes and sucks in Cleveland, that's going to start a whole news cycle for 24 hours. And he just goes and balls out.
And the Cowboys destroy what we thought is a good team in the Browns.

Speaker 2 That would have been nice to be Dak Prescott yesterday.

Speaker 3 I mean, dude, just this quarterback money now is just, I mean, it's just thrown around like Tic Tacs, dude. Like, it is unbelievable.

Speaker 2 Well, speaking of that game, that was the Fox game. That was also, you know, Brady's first game in the booth.
I know everyone's kind of had their takes flying around about, oh, that was terrible.

Speaker 2 That was great.

Speaker 2 Give him a chance. I don't know if you caught much of that game.

Speaker 3 I watched a lot of that game because I watched most of it.

Speaker 2 Cleveland's my team-in-law. You know, that's who my family roots for.
So I want them to do good things and they're in the 80s.

Speaker 3 Well,

Speaker 3 you did have a rough weekend. It was terrible,

Speaker 2 There's nothing good other than the food I prepped for my wife while I was watching the games. Nothing else was good.

Speaker 3 But Brady in the booth, I thought he did a good job. That's a hard job.

Speaker 2 I do envy it in some sense, but I remember we had Brady on entourage years ago. Talk about what fans yell at me all the time.

Speaker 2 They'll come up and shout, Tom Brady sucks balls, because that's what my character says to him.

Speaker 4 You know,

Speaker 2 Brady comes on the show, obviously not an actor.

Speaker 2 Coming off the injury season, too. So no one had seen him in a while.
It's probably the longest anyone's ever gone without talking about Tom Brady.

Speaker 2 And yeah, he comes on the show late notice because that episode was supposed to be for other quarterbacks. We can get to that if we want.
Comes on first take, like every actor was a little rough.

Speaker 2 Take two, getting better. By take three or four, it's like, oh my God, this guy could be an actor if he wants to.

Speaker 3 You guys were golfing. Weren't you golfing in that scene?

Speaker 2 The episode is a golf episode, which if memory serves me correct, that episode was requested by the Manning brothers. Peyton and Eli wanted to do the show.
I think this is 07, maybe 08.

Speaker 2 They wanted to do the show. Doug Ellen writes this whole thing about the Chase brothers versus the Manning brothers.
And then something happened, call it scheduling or change of heart.

Speaker 2 10 days before we have the whole episode prepped, ready to go, money being spent. They can't do it.

Speaker 3 They're out.

Speaker 2 We have no one to fill the spot. And this is where Haven Wahlberg, as your executive producer, is unbelievable because he comes into the production office and basically says, you want me to call Tom?

Speaker 2 And we're all looking looking around like,

Speaker 3 what?

Speaker 2 Tom Sell?

Speaker 2 What Tom are you talking about? He's like, Brady. Like, yeah, go call him.
He goes out in the hallway, comes back two minutes later. He's like, oh, yeah, Brady's going to do it.
It'll be me and Brady.

Speaker 2 We'll fill in. So

Speaker 2 I think it ends up being better in a weird way because of the Giants' Patriots stuff all those years later, but he was great on the show. It took him a little bit of a warm-up.

Speaker 3 few takes in and the next thing you know he's rocking takes and i think that's exactly what's going to happen with the broadcasting job that's a hard gig Dude, do you know, like, I don't think, so there's, there's two like ways to

Speaker 3 kind of, when you prepare for either studio, which is much different, or calling a game.

Speaker 3 So in studio, this was the advice, which, which is me, like I'm on a pregame show, kind of a big show, whatever.

Speaker 3 But like, we were always like the advice I was given was like, study a mile wide, an inch deep. Be able to talk about everything.

Speaker 3 Surface level, substance, some, some of that, but be able to talk about everything because you're you're you know you you're basically 20 seconds of time when you speak right

Speaker 3 when you call a game it's an inch wide and a mile deep you are digging into a team two teams you're digging into stories you're digging into from last year to this year players all of these things and it is it is a it is an art form it is a it is a skill set you talk to anybody even the best like and i would say this like i thought he did a good good job.

Speaker 3 First of all,

Speaker 3 Tom's the best, and he will prepare and work harder at this than anybody, just because

Speaker 3 that's his mentality.

Speaker 3 I think the problem is, and sometimes in that is like, and you know this, you're just watching games, like, you know, like less is more, right? When do you, when do you come in to talk about a play?

Speaker 3 When do you let Kevin Burkhart, his teammate, who's one of the best in the business, you know, you, you give him layups, right?

Speaker 3 You get like, that's, that's the job of the play by Blaze to give the colour guy layups, layups, like no matter who you are. Um, he's going to be fantastic.

Speaker 3 The problem with his is he's so smart and he's got so much to say that there's not enough time to do that.

Speaker 3 And I think that's what, I mean, can you imagine like, dude, like sitting down with Tom for three hours and just picking his brain about football would be like, it would be like the greatest thing of all time.

Speaker 3 But yeah, now he's got to, he's got to talk about that in a live game in a setting against teams and players that he just played against. And like, you got to find your rhythm.

Speaker 3 And And that's what it's about. So he's going to be great.
You know, it's, it's a, it's, I thought, I honestly, like, I, I actually enjoyed watching it.

Speaker 3 And that's not me just because he's at Fox all this. Like, I just think Tom is going to be fantastic at it.
I think it'll just get taken used to. The more reps he gets, the better he's going to be.

Speaker 3 But dude, the dude's the goat for a reason.

Speaker 3 He'll end up being one of the best to do it for sure.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I think everybody does want the feeling of, hey, we just watched the game with Tom Brady.
That's not how live television works.

Speaker 3 It's horrible.

Speaker 3 Now, once he gets, yeah, once he gets better, you'd be like, like, like, I think you want to, like, you want to walk away from a game, right? Learning something, right? Learning something.

Speaker 3 And his brain is just, I mean, it's ridiculous. So, like, it'll get there.
And there's going to be little nuggets and little anecdotes and things about defense and this.

Speaker 3 And he's going to get there, man. I'm Tony.
That guy. But talk about like the expectation.
I mean, like, getting paid 300. plus mil, the best ever to do it, walks in on, that's nerve-wracking.

Speaker 3 I don't care who you are, man.

Speaker 3 Like, it is, I've, I've never called the game, but even in studio, even now, when the red light comes on, like TV, and you, I mean, you've, you're, you obviously, like, when you're, when you're live and you're going through your tele, like, it is like, it's, it's different, you know, it's different than playing.

Speaker 3 So, live is a whole different beast. Oh, dude, it's a whole beast, man.

Speaker 2 I could barely handle this podcast and we record, so I can't imagine being live. We'll keep looking.
I think he's going to be fine. I, I'd say, everybody, chill out, it'll get there.

Speaker 3 Uh, but yeah, yeah, he'll get there.

Speaker 3 Did you like it? You like like it

Speaker 2 with brady in the booth yeah i thought where it really worked for me and look by the way the game wasn't good let's and that's the thing you get

Speaker 2 yeah is he supposed to trash the sean watson no leave all of us on twitter to do that because that's what everybody did you know the cowboys made it look easy so what is he supposed to say yet the cowboys pass rush is unbelievable the browns can't handle it the sean watson's having problems there really wasn't a lot of climactic things right for him to discuss i thought he filled a lot of time in a good way toward the end when the game was already in hand when he started talking about, you know, being an athlete, everyone's kind of, he essentially said everyone's kissing your ass, right?

Speaker 2 I enjoy when a coach or someone calls you out and puts it, puts your name on it. And I thought that's where it was almost like a sneak peek.

Speaker 2 You know, he's going to do that more where he stopped just trying to know everything about those players on the field and gave you a little Brady.

Speaker 2 So I thought I thought I saw enough with that. And then I now want to see him in a good game.
And he can't control that. But I do want to see him in a good game.
He's doing Cowboys Saints in week two.

Speaker 2 It's crazy. He's doing two Cowboy games in a row.
The Saints. I don't know if we could read too much into what they did to Carolina.

Speaker 3 Dude, dropped almost a 50 burger on Carolina week one. I don't get that's tough in the NFL.
Well, Carolina.

Speaker 3 My poor guy, Bryce Young, man. You know, Bryce, right?

Speaker 3 I love it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 That's just one of those situations where, again,

Speaker 3 I think you got to play better, right? You're going going to make better choices. And I didn't watch the film.

Speaker 3 I saw part of the game and some highlights, but you just, you just, again, another situation where just not a lot around you. There's just not.

Speaker 3 And,

Speaker 3 you know, like,

Speaker 3 no disrespect to Carolina and the fans, just like, it's like, I've played there a handful, like,

Speaker 3 you know, like, it's just a tough place to be. And you go back to last year, but like Sam was there last year, right? Darnold? Oh, no, Sam was in San Francisco, but he's there a couple years ago.

Speaker 3 He was there. baker

Speaker 3 yeah it's just like man like it's just it's tough and i just feel for him like he might be better off in a year or two like just getting out of there having a fresh start somewhere else and then because i still think he's uber talented um but again like i said like sometimes you can you can kind of go to places and they forget about you and all of a sudden you're year four or five and it's like wow like like what am i doing now you know like it's I don't know.

Speaker 3 I'm rooting for him, though.

Speaker 2 Have you checked out the slate? Is there a game that jumps out to you this week that I always like to say, what What game, if you could go to just as a spectator, would you want to go to?

Speaker 2 Is there a game that? Because I have one. It's a very easy one.
I have one that I would just love to go to.

Speaker 3 Here, you tell me. I'm looking up right now.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 I just think that the Bengals Chiefs is the most compelling game of the week for so many reasons. You know, can the Chiefs build off of what they did week one?

Speaker 2 Obviously, the Bengals had maybe the most disappointing.

Speaker 2 They were just a teaser, parlay, suicide pool, killer for everybody.

Speaker 2 Killed so many dreams, including some of mine, by the way.

Speaker 2 It just happened, so they have to respond. That's the one I would, I would, I think I'd want to go to.

Speaker 3 I mean, I'm looking here.

Speaker 2 I mean, I think I know yours.

Speaker 3 I feel like I could predict yours. What is it?

Speaker 2 If I had to guess you, I feel like you're going Sunday night to Houston to watch CJ Street against your boy Caleb. Am I right?

Speaker 3 You're right.

Speaker 3 That was the one. That's the one that stood out.

Speaker 2 I mean, there's so much there for you. You got Caleb.
You got CJ. Houston's a fun city.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I played there. It was one of my favorite places.
I loved, I played there two years, man. I loved it.
And I love C.J. Stroud.
I got to know him and covering him at Ohio State. Great kid, dude.

Speaker 3 And just

Speaker 3 honestly, like one of my favorite players. Just a great kid.
Works his butt off.

Speaker 3 Obviously, man, had a great year. That's a fun team.
D'Amico Ryans was my teammate in Houston. I know D'Amico well.

Speaker 3 He's awesome.

Speaker 3 He's just the best, dude. And then, yeah, the Bears, like Caleb, obviously, the Bears kind of won defense in special teams this past week, but that's an exciting game.

Speaker 3 Like, both young teams, both exciting teams, both potentially playoff teams again, at least for the Bears this year. So, that would be it.
That's a nice, that's a nice finish to the weekend.

Speaker 2 Well, it was a great guest in week one. Ashton Kutcher was smiling with that Bears win.
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Speaker 2 All right, he's finally here. He's my LA Big Bro.
That's how I always refer. Anytime his name comes up, I say, that's literally my LA big brother.
Jay Glazer is here with us.

Speaker 2 Jay, thank you for stopping by and hanging with us.

Speaker 4 Absolutely. You got my guys, man.

Speaker 4 We've all been fighting here for a long time, the three of us.

Speaker 3 I know. I want to hear this story about you and Jerry.

Speaker 4 What about you? Leiner, you and I started. I started training Leiner in the MMA in like 2008,

Speaker 3 right? Was it? Yeah, it was 2008.

Speaker 4 Something like that. When did you come back?

Speaker 3 Yeah, we were.

Speaker 3 By the way, I say this still to this day.

Speaker 3 Well, it goes without saying, the hardest workout of all time.

Speaker 3 But I remember we were up in we were up in scottsdale or phoenix and i think it was 07 or 08 summer offseason and you were there and you were like dude come train with me and i was kind of you know it was like after my rookie year i was trying to figure out like

Speaker 3 and we trained with bader

Speaker 3 you did

Speaker 3 bader and uh cb dolloway

Speaker 3 and jamie and jamie varner and i'll i'll never forget this dude so like

Speaker 3 i'm training one day and

Speaker 3 i'm doing this like i'm carrying the heavy bag like corner to corner on the mat i'm beating it down i'm going i'm like doing like these rounds right for like 30 or 45 minutes and this was one specific day and i like to pride myself like i still work hard like i like i respected like it was like i pride myself like i'm not i'm never gonna quit i'm not gonna tap out i'm not gonna throw up like i'm just gonna go and

Speaker 3 Dude, it was like 30 minutes in and I'm like, I'm breathing. I'm like, dude, this is rough.

Speaker 3 And then all of a sudden, I think it was Jay or might have been Bader because they were just screwing with me the whole time. They're like, dude, that wasn't even the workout, bro.

Speaker 3 That was our warm-up. I swear to God, I'm like, what?

Speaker 3 Dude. And then they were doing like, it was like another two hours of lifting and all that.
I'm just like, dude, this is why I'm not a fighter.

Speaker 3 Those guys and Jay, you guys are just built different, dude. It's like the mentality, but it was awesome, man.
I had such a blast.

Speaker 4 The whole point is, if we can make football easy, that's what I try to do. By the way, the guys we were training back then, it was Jared Allen, Victor Hobson, like, man, Max Starks.

Speaker 4 but the whole point is: if I can get you to do a three-minute round with a one-minute break, you damn sure could do a seven-second round with a one-minute break in football.

Speaker 4 So, that's the whole thing. It's like you push yourself and push yourself.
Our whole program is called Unbreakable. We push our breaking points, so everything else becomes easy.

Speaker 4 But hey, and also, Matt, like, man, when we got you, I was like, Hey, Matt, I don't want you to sit back in the pock pocket and be like, Oh, I gotta get away from this guy, this guy, this guy.

Speaker 4 I'm like, that I want you to go get that motherfucker and get that motherfucker and get that motherfucker. Like, we're relentless.
we we

Speaker 4 had a half against the steelers in preseason when you threw for like 330 and a half green bay green bay green bay i was like there he is and then he got hurt like

Speaker 3 man dude remember we went to uh we went to couture's place in vegas well by the way so me you and patrick willis Patrick Willis, who, by the way, my, my tooth is still chipped from Patrick Willis on Monday Night Football 2007.

Speaker 3 Just I didn't even wear a mouthpiece, just completely annihilated me. I will never remember this, Jay? We were sitting there, and I took my pops.
This was like a fun, great couple days for us.

Speaker 3 And Vitor Belfort was getting ready to fight, I think, Anderson Silva. I think he ended up, I don't know if he backed out, but he ended up not fighting in that fight.

Speaker 3 But I was playing catch with Vitor Belfour.

Speaker 3 By the way, like, right, one of the greatest fighters, athletes. This dude looked like he had two right hands catching the ball.
Like, he could not throw. He couldn't catch.
And by the way, his son.

Speaker 3 His son's a great quarterback now. His son.

Speaker 4 It's freaking amazing. It started with you.
He's He's in the cage.

Speaker 4 I think it was Forrest Griffin.

Speaker 3 We had James Forrester. Yeah, he was the one.

Speaker 4 Right?

Speaker 4 Gina Carano was there.

Speaker 4 These guys are trying to throw a football, and obviously they can't.

Speaker 3 It was so great.

Speaker 4 We also had, wait, we had a couple of the Saints

Speaker 4 and a jet. They all got popped for star caps.

Speaker 4 And they landed to come train with us. And they ended up winning their appeal.
So it was Calvin Pace. It was a couple of the Saints.

Speaker 4 They landed to train with us in Vegas because I didn't have a gym in L.A. then.
And by the time they landed,

Speaker 4 the GM had called and said, no, come back. You just won your appeal.
Ended up going back.

Speaker 4 I think we're at Calvin Pace for a day and they went back to the Jets. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Jay, was I the first actor that you trained? You've gone on to train lots of actors. You opened up the L.A.
gym, but I came to you when I was attached to play Aturo Gaddi.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Movie ended up not getting made traversed, my favorite fighter of all time.

Speaker 4 And I

Speaker 4 just looked like him, too.

Speaker 2 That was the big thing. Like, heck, can we get you to look like that when Jerry was a little heavier?

Speaker 3 Or was that when you were doing that?

Speaker 4 No, no, Jerry. No, we

Speaker 4 leaned Jerry out like crazy, but with his boxing training, but you know what, Jerry? We trained before I opened Unbreakable.

Speaker 4 Somebody had connected. Oh, I think Strahan connected us to train you.

Speaker 2 It was Strahan and Brad Slater connected.

Speaker 4 Right. Connected.
Connected. Right.
Strahan and Brad Slater to train you. to train to look like or Turgotti to fight like him.
And you and I were going around a bunch of just random gyms yes training

Speaker 4 and yeah jerry could box jerry picked it up big time you know what too i think when a lot of acting i've trained a lot of performers and

Speaker 4 they're a lot better than a lot of the athletes in a way because they take their ego out of it they're not trying to kill it right and plus like especially like musical performers like demi lovato and whiz khalifa and them because they do so much choreography they could put together steps of you know move your hip here and turn your toe over here and move your hips over this way better than us with our lung egg egos.

Speaker 4 And they take the ego out of it and they're just better at it than us.

Speaker 2 Well, it is humbling walking into your gym because then you open up Unbreakable on sunset. Awesome gym.
I walk in there.

Speaker 2 I was one of the first, maybe the first client by the time the football players rolled in. I'm rolling into workout, do my actor stuff, just looked apart.
And it's like, oh, it's Jadavian clowny.

Speaker 2 Dude, Lane Johnson. Oh, Jay comes up to me.
He's like, today, oh, someone, I got you paired with Aaron Rodgers today.

Speaker 3 I'm like, oh, I'm working out with him. I worked out with him for three weeks.

Speaker 2 But then it almost backfired because I was doing a lot of the boxing stuff. And Orlando Skandrick was working out there as well.
And obviously he was on the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 So him and I were chirping, good spirited, but you know when it's yes, it can't.

Speaker 4 We sell a locker room there, right? So we sell my immaturity.

Speaker 3 No doubt. Wherever we are.
No doubt, right?

Speaker 4 And that's what's great about a locker room. Like, if the rest of the world acted like a locker room, we wouldn't be so f ⁇ ed up.
We'd get along.

Speaker 2 Go ahead, Jerry. Yeah.
Well, no. So I'm hitting mitts with Jay one day, and he's like, You know what, Orlando, get over here.
He's like, Jerry would beat your ass. Orlando's obviously like, uh, what?

Speaker 2 And now, Jay's like, All right, one, two, and then slip, and then give me that hard overhand right as hard as you can. And Jay leans his mitt into it, too.

Speaker 3 So, you really get the pop.

Speaker 2 And even every now, everyone in the gym starts filtering over to the point where I sent Matt the picture, and I sent you the picture too. We had like a scheduled fight.
Yep, we were gonna like

Speaker 2 in the gym. Now, Jay, I never told you this.

Speaker 3 I was really nervous because I mean, I didn't show it.

Speaker 4 That's our whole thing. You don't show it.
You don't show it.

Speaker 3 And hey, but inside every time Jerry would hit, I'd be like, Orlando, Jerry's gonna you up.

Speaker 3 Of course, he would.

Speaker 4 Orlando, you can't deal with it. And then Orlando loves to talk.
So he'd come over. We made it a thing, and we ended up doing a tell of the tape.

Speaker 3 Yes,

Speaker 2 and Matt saw the picture and said,

Speaker 2 just based off the picture, Matt goes, oh, Orlando would beat your ass.

Speaker 3 Just based off the picture. I mean, dude, I'm just, listen, I saw, dude, you're my boy, man.
I got your back. I got your back.
He just looks way bigger than you.

Speaker 3 And then there's Jay in the background.

Speaker 3 I don't care about.

Speaker 4 And I want to tell Jerry, I don't care if we win or lose. Just be willing to fight.

Speaker 3 Hell yeah.

Speaker 4 That makes you real dangerous if you take that ego out.

Speaker 2 Well, the coolest thing, too, is I remember when you had Lane Johnson in there. And I remember this specifically because I think he just started.

Speaker 3 I don't think he had any Pro Bowls at this point yet.

Speaker 4 No, he did not. He threw up nine times in the first round.

Speaker 2 I remember him going outside. He was puking, coming right back and hitting the workout.

Speaker 3 And I think the dude's been in the Pro Bowl every year since then.

Speaker 2 Absolutely. Yeah.
Every year since then. And yeah, it was just like a lot of people.

Speaker 4 He kind of has been our poster child for what that program was and him and Jared Allen Cousin. But man, Lane really took it upon himself to say, okay, I'm not going to show it.

Speaker 4 I'm going to be relentless. I'm going to see where everybody else puts their hands on their hips.
And when they start huffing and puffing, then I'm going to start sharpening my weapons.

Speaker 4 I'm going to make it a fight. And that's your whole thing.

Speaker 4 Like, if you turn any sport you're playing or business, if you're making a fight, most people don't sign up to fight most people sign up to play a sport those people who sign up to play a sport you're making a fight they're going to tap out they're they're done and it's exactly i mean lane just took it on like i was we were so proud of him um

Speaker 4 in in in in in every little thing he did because it wasn't just like we teach violent hand fighting we teach leverage but the biggest part was is again i talked to ego a bunch we wore lane out and he was like i'm gonna take my ass working like a man that's fine it's gonna make me better.

Speaker 4 He just, and a lot of guys can't do that. A lot of guys, when you beat up on them, they're like, oh, no, I'm not looking good.
A lot of guys want to be famous instead of being great.

Speaker 3 Two totally different.

Speaker 4 Two totally different things.

Speaker 3 Lane is training. Who are you training currently? You still got some guys out there?

Speaker 4 I trained. Yeah, this offseason I trained Derwin James, Max Crosby a little bit, but man, how about this? The first 15 minutes in, Derwin

Speaker 4 tears my bicep tendon, has super spinatus and my rotator cuff.

Speaker 4 And then Max comes in and he exacerbates it. And he actually, there was one like hand fist fighting thing that Max got me on where it just popped and I was and he knew it.
Later on, I talked about it.

Speaker 4 I was like, hey, by the way, guys, because again, I tell these guys, like, we don't show it. We don't show it.

Speaker 4 If you're hurt or you're tired in that cage or on that field, you will never, ever, ever, ever know. And so I told those guys a month later, Dr.

Speaker 4 Eleatra, she's been trying to do surgery on me ever since. I was supposed to get surgery in April, but I got married.
And then

Speaker 4 when I got back, he was supposed to do it, but then he went to South France. He actually just hit me up the other day to do it.

Speaker 4 But man, I just went down to Panama and got some stem cells at a place called Origins. I'm feeling good.

Speaker 4 I don't know if I'm going to get it or not, but I'm walking around with a tour and bicep tenant this whole time.

Speaker 2 It didn't stop you too this summer, right? You went on your glazer tour, right?

Speaker 3 You hit all the training camps.

Speaker 4 Yep, absolutely. A billion percent.

Speaker 3 You know, you're one of the best in the business, right? Insider.

Speaker 3 And I find your job fascinating i played the sport uh you know i i you and i have been close for a long time so i kind of understand the inner workings of that but like how do how does that begin for you like like what is the story behind your job and how you got to this point my god no my i am

Speaker 4 i gotta i almost say like i kind of made a career out of nothing because there was no like minute-by-minute breaking news guy. But so here's the thing, guys.
The truth is, and Jerry, you know this.

Speaker 4 I started my career interned at WFNAN in 89, 90.

Speaker 4 Got a job covering the Giants in 93. There was no internet back then.
I made $9,450

Speaker 4 a year for the first 11 years of my career. 11 years.

Speaker 4 But I walked in that giant locker room the first day, got a job for this like little Giants newspaper called Giants Extra, where they went chapter 11 my first month. And I got

Speaker 4 New York One TV started up, and they gave me $0.

Speaker 4 Eventually they gave me $450 a year, three installments of $150. But I walked in that giant locker room from day one and I'm like, man, how could I be different?

Speaker 4 Like if these dudes are gonna, if they work 40 hours a week, I'm gonna outwork them, not by a little, by a lot. Like, you know,

Speaker 4 the, the, um, the blueprint for greatness, not that I'm greatness, but it's not, it's not a big secret. Find out who the best is and do more than them by a lot.

Speaker 4 And it's those hours you put in that no one's watching. So, man, every single day, if those guys work 40 hours, I work 100.

Speaker 4 And I wasn't able to pay my other bills because I couldn't get like side jobs and side hustling and stuff. But the other thing I said is, man, how can I be different from everybody else in here?

Speaker 4 These guys, I felt the old school reporters use their pen as a weapon. I'm going to start relationships.
And I got murdered for it for years. for I'm not being objective.
I'm friends with the players.

Speaker 4 I'm friends with the coaches. I'm like, I got more in common with these guys than I do you guys.

Speaker 4 But I also said, I don't think you're being objective because if they don't talk to you, you're killing them.

Speaker 4 So they used to write about me and Strahan and they would like, man, they torture, just guess. And every time I try to get a job,

Speaker 4 they would, like the, the bosses would go ask the reporters and I'd get killed. Then I'm not being objective.
But I just felt like everything I do, it's relationship-based.

Speaker 4 And I just have this confidence like, man, eventually, like, you know, you build a better mousetrap, someone's eventually going to want to buy it but it took 11 freaking years and like during that whole time I didn't have enough money to go from New York City take a subway to the bus to giant stadium back every day every freaking day I had a way for Strahan

Speaker 4 didn't even live in the city to drive me back in New York City so I'm like 28 grand in Lincoln tunnel fare but as a result of that I'd sit there every day and talk to players and coaches in the parking lot and build up the relationships and I just became like like a relationship guy.

Speaker 4 Then, um, when free agency began, my name had kind of gotten around, and again, there wasn't like internet or film,

Speaker 4 but I started getting calls from people, and most people don't know this. I started getting calls from these low-level like scouts and coaching assistants saying, Hey, we hear you know these players.

Speaker 4 What do you know about Keyshawn Johnson? Or what do you know about Michael Brooks? What do you know about this player or this player or that player? We hear you're the guy that knows all the players.

Speaker 3 Well,

Speaker 4 about 35, 40 of those guys have gone on become head coaches and gms low-level guys that i just talk to everybody that's where adhd comes in handy like you just want to talk and talk and i you know i've built up relationships over the years and i always i always had this thing of i'm not going to go for the scoop i'm going to try and be the most trusted guy in sports and that's it and with you know that the scoops will come right but just don't ever burn anybody and i don't need by the way i've had some really really rough stories in a lot of friends of mine but my thing is who would you rather have it me or someone else Because I'm going to be fair about it.

Speaker 4 So I've, I've, you know, I've had friends pop for steroids. I've broken it.
I've had friends get arrested for stealing stuff in locker rooms. I've broken it.

Speaker 4 And they've talked to me about it because you have that trust that you build up. Well, eventually, guys, that internet thing came out in 99.
Thank God Almighty.

Speaker 4 I finally got a full-time job for 50 grand for CBS. And then

Speaker 4 that got me on national TV and then WCBS, I'm sorry, CBSportsline.com. So me and like Chris Mortensen and

Speaker 4 John Clayton and Len Pascarly, like the first minute-by-minute breaking news guys to do it. And then back then, man, I had everything.
And Jerry, you were around back then. Also, Matt, you were too.

Speaker 4 I had every little breaking story. And thank God over the years, I've been able to just, you know, to,

Speaker 4 as it become a Twitter war, Fox has been like, hey, we just need you to be red on Fox NFL Sunday. And you don't have to.

Speaker 2 tweet first before everybody else because that's not that's bull well that's what i wanted to ask you too because i remember your i was always obsessed with your Sunday routine.

Speaker 2 Didn't you like not worse, maybe Saturday night, right? Didn't you go like to the Peninsula Hotel or something?

Speaker 2 You went to like a hotel, Beverly Wilshire, and you just you and your phone sit down, you'd be working like just you alone.

Speaker 4 Oh, it starts Friday, though. It starts Friday, and I go Friday.
Yeah, I usually get a day drinking spot, and I sit there, I get on the phone. I call every single team.
I still do it.

Speaker 4 Every team, every week, every head coach, every gym. I mean, not every, but like, man, like

Speaker 4 it, there's, there's, you know, a thousand phone calls that go into me getting five stories per weekend. And then there's, you know, I put out 1% of what I know.

Speaker 3 That's it.

Speaker 3 1%?

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's probably less.

Speaker 4 But it's like,

Speaker 4 I have a responsibility to those guys on that show to do my job better than anybody else. And I've always taken that.
Like,

Speaker 4 I'm responsible to them. I'm never going to, I'm never, and as I've gotten bigger and bigger too, I remember Dan, Dan Quinn.

Speaker 4 years ago i'm like at the height i'm doing ballers i'm like year three and man i'm breaking everything and i still do my training camp tour every year which is 40 days on the road i go from team to team to team to team just me still do it and d2 said what do you like why are you still here so what do you mean he said haven't you moved up and on from this i'm like bro there is no up and on from this like you guys are my family you're my community you're you help me between the years more than anything there is no i don't care how big i get the nfl for me that's that is my that's my family i need my teams and there's no moving up and on from that he's like oh i get it i get it

Speaker 3 how how did you you broke the

Speaker 3 iuk right was that this week that was a big one that was a fascinating

Speaker 4 so take us behind the scenes of how that transpired if you can um i was actually it's funny because i was i was oh man this this here's here's one for you so i'll go back i happen to be in steelers camp you guys know me i always put weird groups together i'm in steelers camp here's something nobody knows I'm in Steelers camp.

Speaker 4 I bring Brett Michaels with me because he's from Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 That's right. That's right.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 4 And not only that, I say, I'm going to bring you here, but I want you to take Mason Tomlin, who's Mike Tomlin's son. And I want you to meet with him.

Speaker 3 He's a musician.

Speaker 4 So I want you to meet. So we met out here at Soho Malibu.
Hooked, everything's great. And he's like, you know what, Mason? I think you got it.
I'll have you open up for me.

Speaker 4 He actually had Mike Tomlin's son open up for him in Pittsburgh in July.

Speaker 3 That's awesome.

Speaker 4 I said, as a result, I'm going to bring you to camp. So I bring him to Steelers' camp, right? And he was like, I was like, I do a lot of charity.
He's my charity charity today.

Speaker 4 And while I'm there, the Niners are trying to get a trade. The Steelers are trying to trade for Ayuk,

Speaker 4 okay? But in the meantime, so what happened was

Speaker 4 the Niners had

Speaker 4 talked to a couple other teams, but Ayuk wouldn't go to Cleveland and New England. He wanted to go to Pittsburgh,

Speaker 4 but the Niners needed a receiver back. So basically, they were getting a two and a three and something else from Pittsburgh.
And then they had like another trade with that three to go to another team,

Speaker 4 and that would have completed it. But we're sitting there, me and

Speaker 4 uh, Brett Michaels and Mason Tomlin, Mike Tomlin, in Mike's dorm room. And

Speaker 4 you guys know me, man. I like to socialize when I'm on the road.

Speaker 4 So, Mike T is like called off the rest of his meetings because I'm in town for the day. You know how it is, Matt, when I come in, it's hurricane glaze, right?

Speaker 3 I go

Speaker 4 players, I work out with the team, I'm pushing guys in the huddle, I eat with them, man, I'll get IVs, I'll work. They do my laundry, everything.
So, so here's the best part. So, John Lynch,

Speaker 4 I want to break this story. I just know what's going on.
But I'm sitting there in Mike Tomlin's dorm room. And the phone's sitting there and Lynch isn't getting back to me.

Speaker 4 He's not getting back to Tomlin. And it's going on and on.
Well, now he's getting in the way of my day drinking.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 4 he's not getting back to me. He's not getting back to Mason.
And I'm like, hey, I'm starving. Let's go.
So we go to this little bar called Dino's, me, Mike T, and Brett Michaels and Mason.

Speaker 4 And he, and Lynch won't come back to us. So we're like, Mason, text John Lynch.
This is Mike Tomlin's son. Text John Lynch.

Speaker 4 Tell him he is getting in the way of our day drinking day, okay, and our beer and wigs. So he hits up Lynch, and in two seconds, Lynch gets back to Tomlin's son.

Speaker 3 We're like, hey, this is he won't get back to us.

Speaker 4 We just get back to Mason Tomlin, right?

Speaker 3 So.

Speaker 4 We're like, Lynchy, let's go. We got things to do here.
I got a story to break. And next thing you know, make it goes dark again.

Speaker 4 So I have my wife, Rosie, up john lynch and she says um something like hey uh john this is rosie jay glazer's wife uh jay really needs his his routines getting reports that you're getting in the way of their day drinking day is there a way you could please complete this trade so he can get back in his routine uh and i don't have to hear about it from from uh my husband and mike t and john lynch just gets back to rosie oh no rosie not you

Speaker 4 finally we're keeping it going. I said, Brett, now you got to do it.
So then Brett Michaels hits him up, goes, oh my God, Lynch, can you please get this thing going?

Speaker 4 So I was there when it was actually happening the original time.

Speaker 4 But this one, yeah, this was last week.

Speaker 4 And, you know, it's funny because I was with the Niners in Vegas.

Speaker 4 They kind of pulled their offer originally. And then when he

Speaker 4 when I reported this weekend, that he was getting traded to the Steelers,

Speaker 4 he happened to show up early and he went downstairs. He found Kyle, and Kyle's trying to get on the phone with Lynch and all those guys and can't get on the phone with him.
And he sprints upstairs.

Speaker 4 Luckily, Kyle works out. He sprinted upstairs and was able to, you know, put a stop to it.

Speaker 4 But it was, it was pretty wild just to that's crazy. Yeah, but that's the trust.
If you're there and you're around it,

Speaker 4 you see it all and you get more insight than anybody else.

Speaker 2 That's the most glazer story ever.

Speaker 3 I was with Brett Michaels,

Speaker 2 Mike T's kid, and my wife was texting John Lynch.

Speaker 3 Could you imagine

Speaker 3 if Rosie was responsible for that trade happening?

Speaker 3 That's amazing.

Speaker 4 Rosie, Rosie hears a lot of stuff that goes on in the end. She's probably the second best insider out there.

Speaker 2 She could, yeah, I imagine she has some of the other 99% of the stuff that you don't play.

Speaker 4 Yeah, she hears it all. And it's funny, too, because now...
And she's changed my life. You know, I got married in May.

Speaker 3 Congrats. Yes.

Speaker 3 That's a huge deal. Huge deal.

Speaker 4 Hey, you guys have been around my crazy for a long time. For a long time, I didn't feel worthy of it.
And

Speaker 4 I sabotaged everything that I've ever been in because I didn't feel worthy of it. And, you know, with her,

Speaker 4 thank God I've opened up now to talk about this stuff because I've done the work where I could feel worthy. You know, when you have,

Speaker 4 here I go with the ADD, but when you have depression, anxiety, it makes you feel, again, like for me, like you're not worthy of it. The sky is going to fall.

Speaker 4 And the pain of when the sky is going to fall for me

Speaker 4 is is worse than the sky falling. So you speed it up and you sabotage everything that's good.

Speaker 4 And this is the first time in my life I'm not sabotaging something that's great because I've been able to open up and do this work. And then I'm 54.
It's never too late to find love.

Speaker 4 You just got to work your ass off. And I got to be relentless.
I tack it, you know, as relentless as anything else. But yeah, she's changed my life, man.
She's incredible.

Speaker 3 That's so good to hear.

Speaker 2 And I'm really, really happy for you. And kind of,

Speaker 2 you know, you mentioned a lot about

Speaker 2 depression and stuff like that. And that's also been a big part of our relationship.
And now I know you're doing it with players too. You know, you have your podcast, Unbreakable.

Speaker 2 I mean, literally the Sean McVay and Michael Phelps episode was unbelievable. You wrote the, you wrote a book.
You have the Unbreakable book. So like, at what point did you know, hey, I want to start.

Speaker 2 talking to players, coaches, and the NFL, or were you always just doing it? And you just figured, like, I'm just going to try to make this as acceptable as possible.

Speaker 2 Cause some people still struggle to let their their anxiety and their stuff get out there.

Speaker 4 Well, you know, they came for me to write a book and I didn't want to write an infiltrance hidden book because I don't want to look over my shoulder with my secrets.

Speaker 4 But it really, like, I started to open up to players and fighters, me and Randy Koutur and Chuck Liddell, we always open up about this because no one's questioned your manhood.

Speaker 4 So you could open up on the drop of a dime. I could cry.
Jerry, you see me cry in a cage with these guys. Like I don't, I don't, no one's questioned my manhood.

Speaker 4 But then when I started, you know, I'd started a charity charity a long time ago called MVP,

Speaker 4 and I was able to open up in front of these combat vets where I take combat vets in. And Jerry, you were at the first session, I think.

Speaker 4 We put these combat vets and ex-athletes together, and it's really we work out for about a half hour, but then we start opening up mental health stuff.

Speaker 4 And opening up to those combat vets gave me the confidence that if I can open up to these cats and not be judged, then I could use that for the rest of the world. And it's interesting.

Speaker 4 I talk to teams now, and I tell them, look,

Speaker 4 I've gotten brought in to talk to NFL teams for years,

Speaker 4 but about violence, about the unbreakable way, the MMA mindset, the fighter mentality. And again, I tell these guys, if I am hurt or tired, you will never, ever, ever know.

Speaker 4 My partner and all that, Randy Couture, got his arm broken in half in the heavyweight championship of the world by Gabriel Gonzaga. Never showed it.
Never showed it. Right.

Speaker 4 If they showed it, they're going to end the fight. He loses the title.
You don't ever show it. We talked about Lane Johnson before.
Lane played with two torn adductors. You'll never know.

Speaker 4 And you need that in football and fighting.

Speaker 4 But I tell teams it's the same mentality, especially us men, off that field, outside of that cage, that gets a lot of us to want to throw ourselves off a bridge or turns to drugs and alcohol.

Speaker 4 And I'm one of them. And, you know, for me,

Speaker 4 you know, I didn't open up, but I have clinical depression, anxiety, ADHD, bipolar, you name it, I got it.

Speaker 4 And I just hit it with Vicodin and Adderall and alcohol for years because I'd rather have gotten in trouble going out and getting arrested than admit that I have some issues.

Speaker 4 And now that I'm able to admit it, all it's done has gotten me so much closer together with people. And I tell these guys, look, like mental health is so reactive nowadays.

Speaker 4 You don't just like catch passes when you have the drops or lips when you're getting weak. You're always doing it.

Speaker 4 But mental health, you guys are only going to see a therapist after the sky's falling. And that's too late.
You got to work on it constantly. You probably think, well, there's not enough therapists.

Speaker 4 You do. I mean, you got 90 therapists in this room with you right now.
And it makes you so much closer when you're vulnerable and you lean into each other.

Speaker 4 And for those players who say, well, I'm too embarrassed. The first time, first time I ever came out with anything, I did on social media, which is a cesspool.

Speaker 4 And social media is a big problem that we have. Like, you don't have to have clinical like I do to go through because we're comparing ourselves to everybody else's filtered second highlights all day.

Speaker 4 Like on instagram and facebook how are you supposed to survive that or on twitter just getting talked to and beat down and awful and

Speaker 4 you know first time i did it was on social media said guys this this is the thing i wrote a book um

Speaker 4 i know what's on those pages i don't want to wait for the book to come out to be able to help people and here's the truth i have i've put a mask on all these years and i never asked for help so here's my way of saying i want to help everybody else now and drop your comments if you understand what I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 And within two minutes, Mercedes-Lewis, now in his 19th year who i've trained for 15 years first called he said coach man i knew you were crazy and that's a badge of hot wearing football and fighting but i didn't know you were in pain i'm sorry i got you

Speaker 4 like does that sound like someone's shaming me that dude checks up on me three times a week now or michael strahan my baby sister you know my best friend ever i didn't tell him until right around the book and he's like why have you never told me i'm like i don't make the rules up for this, dude.

Speaker 4 I was, we're so competitive, I was ashamed. He goes, and this really hit me.
He said, But you took away my chance to be your best friend for 30 years.

Speaker 3 Think about that.

Speaker 4 That's not shaming. That's like, man, I want to be there for you.
So, I tell these teams, if you could lean into each other like this, think how much closer this will make you.

Speaker 4 Those are bonds, those are brotherhoods. That's your equity.
That's what we got to start doing. And that's what I'm trying to lead the charge on now for all men and women, everybody.

Speaker 4 Just open up, man. We deserve it.

Speaker 3 That's incredible. Honestly, Jay, I'm proud of you, man.
Like, I know we go way back, but proud of, you know, the advocate that you are for mental health and wellness.

Speaker 3 And then just obviously the role that you've played in kind of probably like you're talking about, the pain that you had, but you never let anybody show it.

Speaker 3 But the role that you played and Jerry and I were a part of that. We're part of your journey.
You were part of our journey.

Speaker 3 So here on Throwbacks, man, like, honestly, thank you. Like, we never really, you know, we, we, when we hang out, we have fun and all that, but like, that was really, really inspiring.

Speaker 3 I actually got goosebumps listening to you. So, I just want to say I appreciate you for having that part of my journey as well, man.

Speaker 3 And just being, you've just always been a brother and a great friend to everybody, dude. So, and I'm glad you found happiness too, man, with Rosie.

Speaker 4 54 years, like, it's never too late.

Speaker 3 Never.

Speaker 4 I just had a player ask me recently, like, man, please tell me there's light at the end of the tunnel. And he admitted to me that he attempted suicide.
And I said, hey, dude.

Speaker 4 you open up to people about this. You may save someone's life.
And that's the light. That's the pot of of gold, the end of the rainbow.
But I'm 54.

Speaker 4 I never knew I was able, that I could ever feel this level of joy until now because I'm doing this work. It's worth it.
It's worth it. And I also realized, man, I had to go through this pain

Speaker 4 so I could help others through theirs.

Speaker 4 That gave me this equity, this experience. But at the same time, I try to always know like, man, but God in the universe made all my other dreams come true to keep you afloat the whole time.

Speaker 4 And it's hard to see it when you're in it. Like, it's really difficult.
But again, you guys have seen the real Jay Gladys. I've had meltdowns in front of y'all.
And, you know,

Speaker 4 it wasn't always pretty, but it's been authentic. And

Speaker 4 it's, like I said, for me to be able to, I used to always think that I was cursed by the. Now I feel like God blessed me with it so I could use my pain to help others through theirs, man.

Speaker 4 We deserve it. We deserve to be happy.

Speaker 2 Jay, I'm proud to call you my LA big bro. Thank you for coming on.

Speaker 2 Keep doing, just keep doing it. We all need it.
Honestly, you're setting a great example. I've learned a lot from you, and I miss you.
I don't get to see you as much anymore.

Speaker 3 I always know

Speaker 3 you're a phone call or a text away, and you know I am for you.

Speaker 2 And sometimes

Speaker 2 that's all you need.

Speaker 2 I'm going to end with this. I think I know your answer.

Speaker 3 I know your answer, but I have to ask.

Speaker 2 Any tidbits for us going into week three? I feel like I know what you're going to say.

Speaker 4 Week two yet.

Speaker 3 Week two. Week two.

Speaker 3 He's still hung up on his giants just

Speaker 2 destroyed by the fact that that was horrible. I just, because I've had, this is something I always would ask.
Jay, I always try to get something out of him while we're going to be able to do it.

Speaker 3 We break it on the pod.

Speaker 2 Coach, I had a good workout today. Can you tell me something? No, get away from it.

Speaker 3 No, no, not a good thing.

Speaker 2 Watch on Sunday. You'll find out.

Speaker 4 That's exactly right.

Speaker 3 We're all going to watch on Sunday.

Speaker 4 Jerry's been in there, though. One time.

Speaker 4 Oh, man, weren't you in there? I broke the story that Jimmy Graham was getting traded to Seattle.

Speaker 4 and the backup titan from Seattle was in the gym. And I came in, like, guys, I just broke this, and I didn't realize.

Speaker 2 I'm like, oh, what a you broke it to the player,

Speaker 3 yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 So, your answer is watch on Sunday, watch on Sunday.

Speaker 3 All right, we love you, buddy. Honestly, thank you so, so much.

Speaker 2 Uh, love to Rosie, and uh, we'll check in with you soon. We'll watch you on Sunday for what you're gonna break.

Speaker 4 Absolutely, thanks, Jay. Love you guys.

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Speaker 2 All right, big thank you to my big bro, Jay Glazer. Always great hanging out with him.
And now

Speaker 2 he is the best, right? He is the best.

Speaker 2 Something else that's the best, it's now time to get to our Wendy's Can't Get Enough Sauce moment of the week.

Speaker 2 It's where we kind of feature a player right now that we think something on or off the field is just doing something amazing.

Speaker 3 So I have one.

Speaker 2 I know you do too.

Speaker 3 I'm going to lead off. Okay.
I think I have the one of the week.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 2 you got a kind of front row seat at Mr. Quinn Ewers this week.
Obviously, huge game. Texas gets to win.
But what I really found special was after the game, he gets the big big dap up from McConaughey.

Speaker 2 He went viral. He's up there whispering in his ears, probably going, all right, all right.

Speaker 2 And then he goes and takes an amazing picture with the young kid who the dad, not the one,

Speaker 3 come on,

Speaker 2 not the saucy moment of the week, telling the kid to do horns down. But Quinn kept it respectful.
He kept his composure. He still, you know, had a good moment with the kid.

Speaker 2 He didn't even shoot the dad a dirty look, which I certainly would have did.

Speaker 3 And also, Matt, this might be my quarterback I'm scouting for the Giants next year so that's an easy one for me so that that's your okay i thought you were gonna go somewhere else with that that's good like quin you're a great kid he's a great kid he's got a chance he's got a chance um mine's better i'm just gonna say mine's better uh and well first of all everybody that's that's watching going to watch this on youtube here's my here's my uh there she is you see her her name is caitlin clark okay here's my my

Speaker 3 my girl okay the month of september four games she's averaging 26 points per game 10 and a half assists almost seven rebounds in four games caitlin clark is not just the rookie of the year she will finish second she should finish second in the mvp behind asia asia wilson asia wilson's a dog she's the best okay three and one in those four games just play off squad okay i'm a big fan of caitlin clark and this is why i'm where i'm getting at And I know she's going to listen to this and she's going to respond and maybe we'll get her on the pod because two years ago, we went to Iowa for football.

Speaker 3 Caitlin Clark and the girls came by the set. We hung out.
She's awesome. Like became a fan there.
We became tight, somewhat tight. That same weekend, we shot.
Okay. We had a three-point contest.

Speaker 3 It's a true story. There were cameras.
I'm still waiting to get the video of this. The first round.
You versus her. You versus me real quick.
This is true. And she will back this up.

Speaker 3 The first round, it was me, Reggie, and Caitlin. I think we shot three from each, you know, each, each five spots.
So 15 total. I think we might have shot five.
She whooped us the first round.

Speaker 3 She whooped us the first round. Not so cool.
And that was the one where, of course, Fox was videotaping. Then I said, you know, I pride myself in a three-point shooter.

Speaker 3 I like to say that my game resembles Chris Mullen of the past. Can't jump, not super athletic, but don't leave me outside the arcs.
That's a lefty thing, too. Is that a lefty thing?

Speaker 3 Yeah, just a lefty thing. Left stick together.
So

Speaker 3 I go, and she, and she talked like she's great, right? So I go, I go, I want a rematch. So they stopped filming what a rematch.
I'm pretty sure I shot, I made 18 of 25.

Speaker 3 I can shoot, okay? I'm just, I can shoot. Okay.
Okay. Maybe 17, but I went on fire.
Okay. And she was like, okay, okay, I see you.

Speaker 3 She gets to the last rack of five. I think she had to make

Speaker 3 four or five to tie me. So she was like 14 of 20 going into the last rack.

Speaker 3 She tied me.

Speaker 3 Yeah. No, she, but she hit the last shot to tie.
She was sweating. I was, I was in her ear.

Speaker 2 Oh, you think you had her on the ropes a little bit?

Speaker 3 Okay, I had her on the ropes. Now, the point of the story is I didn't win, but I tied the greatest woman shooter of all time in a three-point contest.

Speaker 3 And I want a rematch. I want a rematch.
And I know, like, she's going to back me on this. She's going to come on the pod one day.
Okay. So, you know, shout out to Caitlin Clark.
Shout out to Wendy's.

Speaker 3 i i'm lit i'm showing the sign i pulled this from a box right i'm a card i was about to say is that a poll or did she send that to you as a consolation prize for tying her in a three-point contest

Speaker 3 oh gosh hold on

Speaker 3 i tied i tied the i tied the homie caitlin clark in the three-point contest claim to fame book it Your story is, you definitely

Speaker 3 way better. It's way better.
Way week for sure.

Speaker 2 And that is our can't get enough sauce of the moment. Week brought to you by Wendy's.
Thank you for that.

Speaker 3 All right.

Speaker 2 Something that got a lot of traction.

Speaker 3 I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because, and I'm fired up now because something that got a lot of traction in the first episode was you throwing that ridiculous bet to me about the Jets getting to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 I have to wear a first, it's a 77. I got calls from back home.
Not off to a great start, buddy.

Speaker 2 If this was like the mob, they'd be like, hey, we got calls from back home about your guy, Matt. What does he say? You can't wear a 76 jersey.
Hearing you say all that, you seem pretty confident.

Speaker 2 You don't, we're getting to know each other. I know you weren't impressed with my boxing abilities.

Speaker 2 I don't know if Glazer swung you, but I'm pretty confident I could beat you handily in a three-point contest.

Speaker 2 Mind you, you know nothing about me when it comes to physical basketball ability. You know zero.
So let's make a little bet.

Speaker 3 Are you serious?

Speaker 2 I'm dead serious. Let's

Speaker 3 fly a little bit.

Speaker 2 Let's figure out.

Speaker 3 This is coming from the guy who stopped playing pickup basketball because, what, he pulled a hammy or you got fouled too hard?

Speaker 3 What happened? Why did you stop playing pickup?

Speaker 3 I stopped playing pickup because I had a double hip replacement. And by the way, I'm back.
I'm ready to go.

Speaker 2 I stopped playing pickup because I'm older and I'm even older than you and I don't want to pop my Achilles, which I saw three in like two months.

Speaker 2 So that made me end my pickup basketball.

Speaker 3 But as far as shooting, by the way, I'm going to stay shooting. Dude, I'm going on you.
I'm going to find some clip of you shooting, dude. I guarantee.

Speaker 3 If you want clips, I'll send you clips.

Speaker 2 Over time, make it a highlight reel.

Speaker 3 Well, let's make a bet. I mean, I would say there's zero chance you beat me in a three-point contest.
Zero.

Speaker 2 Well, listen, if you're listening out there, get on the throwback social media at throwback show.

Speaker 3 By the way, why don't we get some stakes?

Speaker 2 Because you went right for the juggler with like a 76ers Jets jersey. I'm coming at you, Jerry.

Speaker 3 Let's see what, let's see what the guys want to like. We'll post this up and

Speaker 3 we'll start it. Like, what is the, what is, you know,

Speaker 3 if I win, what does Jerry have to do? If Jerry wins, what do I have to do?

Speaker 2 I will fly personally to L.A.

Speaker 2 for, even if it's for 24 hours.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 we're going to film this too.

Speaker 2 When's the last jump shot you took?

Speaker 3 What's the last jump shot you took? Dude, I play horse like like every day.

Speaker 2 I know you play beach volleyball a lot, and I get that.

Speaker 3 Shout out to the Bay Club here. I play horse every time I go to the gym.

Speaker 3 I got to be honest, I'm like one of the best horse players of all time, too. I'm a set shooter, dude.
I'm a set shooter.

Speaker 2 I'm not scared of the lefties. I'm going to show up like Woody Harrelson and White Man Can't Jump.

Speaker 3 And I'm already in your head. Jerry, you're not in my head.

Speaker 2 I'm just here. I'll end this part of the show.

Speaker 3 I'm a professional athlete, dude.

Speaker 2 You do not get in my head. There is nothing better.
You think you'd be...

Speaker 3 Listen, we're ending the same thing. What are we talking about?

Speaker 2 I want a full week to think of the most savage bet because what you did is unforgivable. You made a savage bet previously.

Speaker 3 Yeah, my bet's not. It's the first week of the show.

Speaker 2 No, it's not.

Speaker 2 Look, the Jets are fine. They actually moved the ball a little bit.
The Niners are just better. That being said,

Speaker 2 you went for their juggler bet. So we're going to talk to some people.
I'm going to make this savage.

Speaker 3 It's to the point where you're going to hear it and go, ooh, that's a little scary.

Speaker 2 I don't know if I want to do that.

Speaker 3 The funny thing is, I'm not even, I'm not scared. So

Speaker 3 I'm going to send you highlights

Speaker 3 for social media.

Speaker 2 You're going to see.

Speaker 3 Wait till

Speaker 3 my overtime highlight reel. Something,

Speaker 3 something's going to be involving a 76ers jersey, guaranteed. Guaranteed.

Speaker 2 And now we have people in our great chat already saying that they could be.

Speaker 3 It's so easy to get to the next one.

Speaker 3 I may get you on WFAN wearing the 76ers jersey.

Speaker 2 Well, we'll talk more about it next week, too, because something happened when I did co-host on WFAN where someone called in and called me out for a pickup game moment.

Speaker 3 But we don't have enough time for that because also I remembered something.

Speaker 2 The parlor was the sports bar you and Josie went to, where you had all the fans talking trash to you, right?

Speaker 3 Never

Speaker 3 rose. Yeah, I'll never step foot in that place again.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 I've been to that sports bar. That sports bar gets packed.

Speaker 3 It's a huge space bar.

Speaker 3 I was like a sardine in there.

Speaker 2 Yeah, there's there's a lot of people in there um but it did also bring up really fast a memory for me that i could not uh i just have to say it and um i went on a date i think i we were at a restaurant too in west hollywood came out of the restaurant i walked a young lady it's not my wife don't worry it's not my wife i walked into her car and she took out her phone for something i don't know and she unlocked it and the first screen i wasn't looking she was holding it casually in front of me and i saw a screen popped up and it said uh her google hilarious hilarious google search was jerry ferrara net worth

Speaker 2 not a match

Speaker 3 oh dude that's awesome hey i think she was disappointed by the results and me

Speaker 3 not sure she's like gosh entourage entourage didn't pay that well back yeah hbo must not really pay that well all right

Speaker 3 are we are we are we wrapping up we are wrapping up

Speaker 2 i'm pretty into your travel schedule where are you heading this week uh we'll be in madison wisconsin oh

Speaker 3 One of my all-time favorite places. Haven't gone in a couple years.
We got Bama traveling to Wisconsin.

Speaker 3 Might be a good game. Might not be a good game.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 The spread's pretty big, but

Speaker 3 it's rad, dude. Jump around plays it the fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 Jump around is their thing, right? It's their thing. I've done

Speaker 3 it on. Have you? Yeah, I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it. I'm going to selfie style video that thing, I think.
I'm going to try and do that. It's a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 I went years ago

Speaker 2 back when Russell Wilson was still in Wisconsin, Wisconsin, Nebraska.

Speaker 2 Did jump around and then went to this place there, like, I guess it's like the college bar, the KK or the KK Club, something like that.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I've heard about that.

Speaker 3 Listen,

Speaker 3 I'm staying till Sunday, Madison.

Speaker 3 People from Madison, I'm going to the KK bar Saturday night. I'm going to do it.

Speaker 3 I'm going.

Speaker 3 I got the wife in town. I got friends in town.
I'm going to be one with the college students. I don't know.
It might not end well for me i might step in might step out but i'm gonna go so

Speaker 3 y'all listeners from madison you could see me at the kk bar i heard it's the place to be uh i'm over 40 i get it i'm gonna watch a little college football at night have a couple drinks celebrate being on the road my friends my wife yeah what could go wrong let me ask you i i've only been to like two campuses in my life obviously sc is like fantastic, but you've been to enough college campuses now.

Speaker 2 Was there ever that moment where you looked at a a campus and went, this looks like a fun place to play football? I'm happy with where I went, but I could have seen myself here for

Speaker 3 a couple of years. You know what's so interesting is like we like USC is not, it's not a college town, right? It's just not a college campus town vibe.

Speaker 3 I think USC is a beautiful campus in a not so great area, but it's not like a, it's not like a, I've been to all these college towns. It's just not.
It's not Madison. It's not Iowa City.

Speaker 3 It's not like, it's just not these places. It's not State College, like,

Speaker 3 or Happy Valley, Penn State. It's just not these places.
And now, granted, when I was there, it was pretty awesome because we were basically Hollywood. We were just running it.

Speaker 3 But it wasn't like you're running the show, like, oh, this is a college town, like, whatever. When I go to these places, I sometimes am like, I don't, I never, I never.

Speaker 3 like, oh, I wish I went there, but I was like, it would have been cool to experience a small town, college town feel that I've never experienced. So that's why I enjoy going to these places.

Speaker 3 That's why, like, I went to a TCU bar last year with my wife and friends because I'm like, let's go to old stockyards and Fort Worth. And you experience it.

Speaker 3 Like, you know, I'm older, I get it, but it's fun. Like, like, I didn't get to have that in college.
Now I had a much different experience that I would never take back.

Speaker 3 But that's kind of the vibe of these places, man. So I always

Speaker 3 enjoy going to these cool towns.

Speaker 2 Dan Patrick hit us with that awesome question.

Speaker 2 We were on Dan Patrick's show last Friday and he said the question of the day was better to be in LA as the starting USC quarterback or starring on an HBO show.

Speaker 2 I think I even sided with you on that one.

Speaker 2 I think you win. I think

Speaker 2 I'll tell you what, you're not going to win. You're not going to win the three-point contest versus.

Speaker 3 Oh, my God. I can't believe that we're actually going to do that.

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Speaker 2 Good show today, buddy. Etienne.

Speaker 2 You have fun and be safe.

Speaker 3 We're back. We're back.
Throwbacks are back.

Speaker 2 Throwbacks are back. Take care, everybody.

Speaker 3 Peace.

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