QB Breakdowns, Tom Brady's Announcing Debut & Jay Glazer—The Most Interesting Man in the World

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I'm pretty confident I could beat you handily in a three-point contest. Mind you, you know nothing about me when it comes to physical basketball ability.
You know zero. So let's make a little bet, Mr.
Liner. Are you serious? I'm dead serious.
You're dead serious.

Let's make a little bet.

Let's figure out.

We don't have to announce it today.

This is coming from the guy who stopped playing pickup basketball because, what, he pulled

a hammy or he got fouled too hard?

What happened?

Why did you stop playing pickup?

I stopped playing.

I stopped playing pickup because I had a double hip replacement.

And by the way, I'm back.

I'm ready to go. It is just amazing how music can totally change your mood.
Welcome to another episode of Provax. I'm Jerry Ferrara, always joined by Matt Leiner, who I realized I feel like I'm Robin to your Batman.
You just got Batman vibes. I got Robin vibes.
It's all good. I've accepted it.
Oh, no, dude. I'll be your Robin, buddy.
I was saying it's amazing how music can change your mood because I've been in a bad mood all day since Sunday. A lot of it has to do with the Giants.
We're going to talk about the NFL for sure. We have a great guest lined up today.
Joining us is Jay Glazer. You know him from NFL on Fox.
You got to know Glazer for a while now, right? Dude, I love Jay. I go all the way back to probably when I was drafted, but like 07, I had some, trained with him a little bit, just got to know him.
He's awesome, man. Like, I would love to get in the mind of that guy.
Like, the insider, the stories. He's like, man.
I would love to get in the mind of that guy. The insider, the stories, he's lived a great life so far.
You know what I realized? I know Jay for a long time too. He actually trained me and we're going to talk to him about this and was prepping me for a movie.
Even got me involved into a potential boxing match with an NFL player. We'll get into all that.
But also, do you know what I think guys like Glazer, I often look in like your phone must be really kept on lock. Have you ever gotten to that dude? Like if he lost his phone, that's like his whole business.
His whole business is in that phone. If he lost his phone, guys would be going to jail probably.
I'm telling you. I don't deny it.
There's a lot of cover-ups in the nfl buddy there's a lot of

cover-ups in the nfl yeah i mean he he broke spygate you know and i'm sure a lot of that went

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So look, we've got NFL coming up,

but I did want to ask you this

because I found myself thinking about this.

I was watching, obviously, Michigan, Texas, huge game.

You were there, you were in Michigan.

You see McConaughey out there dressed as like a cowboy.

All right, all right, all right.

My guy, Jeter, who in my eyes is maybe, might be my first or second favorite athlete of all time. But then it hits me.
I know the game was in Michigan, right? But obviously Michigan's playing Texas. And I started thinking about, you know, I've had a lot of people over the years come up to me and talk a little shit.
It's like, oh, there's a turtle from Entourage and tell me like, hey, you used to be really fat. Just talk trash to me.
They're fat shaming you. Yeah, fat shame.
What is it like for you? I'm not saying there was tons of Texas fans there. What are Texas fans saying to you? Do they talk to you? You know, not anymore.
You know, we went to, we went to Texas last year and I always, I always kind of have fun with it, you know, but we went to Texas last year.

And I always kind of have fun with it, you know,

but we went to Texas last year.

And it's just, honestly, dude, it's kind of sad,

but, like, I'm so old now that it's, like, all of the people that would be talking smack are, like, in their 40s,

maybe a little younger.

Like, they're all, like, families, and they're just, like,

if anything, if they bring it up, they're oh i was at the you know the 2006 rose bowl what a great game you know so i so i don't get a lot of that anymore but i will say this because this made me that made me think of something when i first met my wife okay i'm gonna go i'm gonna take you back here so i met my wife in like 12 years ago i to go, I'm going to take you back here. So I met my wife in like 12

years ago. I had just retired, like literally right out there.
So at that point, a lot of talking, you're a bust and this and not like that. That was like fresh.
Okay. Which is fine.
We go to God, you probably like, we're going on a Saturday. Okay.
College football Saturday. This is before i'm working at Fox.
This is like fall, I'm fresh out of the game. I forget what bar it was.
You would know, it's in Hollywood. It was like one of the famous sports bars in Hollywood.
Goal, is it goal? No, it wasn't goal. It's another one like that, okay, whatever.
So I tell her and we're meeting her friend who went to UT and I go, Hey babe, like, I just want to let you know that this is probably a bad idea for me to walk into a sports bar on a Saturday, fresh off of retirement. Okay.
I'm just, she was a, she didn't even know I won the Heisman trophy, dude. Like she could, she could care to like, she could give to, you know, she loves you for you.
She loves you for you. By the way, no doubt.
Absolutely. So, actually, it's funny.
So, I go, I go, I go, I'm just letting you know that this is a bad idea, and I might walk out. I'm just letting you know, like, ahead of time.
Dude, I walk in, and I'm also tall, right? So, I stick out like a sore thumb. I walk in, and it's packed, and I'm just, like, kind like, you've probably been there, right? If you're like, maybe in your heyday, like you're kind of like, like, you're just like, you don't want to be seen, but like, it's impossible.
Dude, I start getting just, talk about you getting fat shamed, dude. I'm getting like career shamed.
I'm getting like, you sock liner, get it. And I'm just like, and she was like, pulled my arm, she goes like, whoa.

I'm like, yeah, I told you, man.

Like, ugh.

Like, I actually instantly got in a bad mood.

I go next door to like some random restaurant.

It's this funny story.

So I go next door.

I'm like, hey, you guys stay here.

I'm good, guys.

Like, I'm just not gonna be in here.

It's a bad idea.

I go next door and she meets me.

We're at like this little bar.

There's really no one in there.

It's like a little restaurant. I had a TV on there.
And all of a sudden, a Heisman commercial came on. And she goes, this is how great my wife is.
She goes, hey, didn't you win that thing or something? I'm like, yeah, I won it. I won it a couple of years ago.
Big deal. And that was my day.
So for fans heck like back in the day, it was awful. Now it's more like, you know what I get now? I get more like, Hey, you're that guy on a social media.
Like, Oh, you, you and your wife, like you're funny, like that, that type. So you're funny on Tik TOK.
Yeah, dude, I've become, I'm, I'm like a, I'm a influencer now and I'm definitely not an athlete. Sometimes I forget.
I played football, dude. But fans are great.
Fans are great for the most part. Urban Meyer in Michigan is not so great.
That dude got booed the whole show. It was fantastic.
I imagine. Did you ask him? I saw this on social media.
You were like, how much money would it cost to make you coach? Dude, I said 25 stacks. Dude, sign me up.
I'll coach at Notre Dame for 25 million a year you be my oc dude i'll bring it i'll be the water boy right you pay right yeah i'll be the water boy well i yeah i was wondering that because no it's not that big of a deal well look it does i don't want to say cross the line but everyone knows i'm a giants fan i mentioned the music earlier in the show because have been in a bad mood. I had the awesome sports trifecta where you lose every single fantasy league.
You lose every single bet. And then your favorite team gets smacked around.
I found myself on the couch eight hours later. Just why, what am I doing with my life? Why did I just put myself through all those losses? And then you see the fan after the Giants game, right? And I don't know what your take is on this.

It's one thing like, all right, you went to a sports bar.

You knew what you were walking into.

Daniel Jones was just leaving the facility,

and that one fan waited around talking all sorts of trash.

And then the burning of the jerseys.

Someone needs to explain this to me.

Dude, Cleveland burned LeBron's jerseys when he left. And I thought that was the dumbest thing ever.
It doesn't make you like a diehard fan. Yeah, I mean, listen, I think from a fan's perspective, clearly, right? And you're as passionate as they come.
Like, you pay the dude 50 mil, you just expect more, right? You expect more. It's just like, and it's, it's now years and years of agony maybe at that position.
And again, I've always been a fan of Daniel Jones. I kind of continue to root for him.
I hope he pulls it. I've been in that situation a little bit where it's just like, dude, it just sucks, dude.
Like it's tough. You're in the New York market.
Um, now granted he's making a lot of money, but yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, like we always, like as athletes, it's, it's like one of those things where like, don't feel bad for us, but we would never go to someone else's workplace and just start like talking to that person. You suck at acting, Jerry screw you.
Like you just like, it just wouldn't cross my mind nor would it cross Daniel Jones. But so like, is there a point where it's, it's taken too far? Absolutely.
Do I understand that the passion of a New York, a New York fan now that I know you better, I get it. But like, well, it doesn't accomplish anything.
It just makes you look like an idiot. Yeah.
I I've never burned a Jersey. I've never thought about burning a Jersey.
I don't get just throw the thing away. If you don't want to, how long does your like giants hangover last i think i'm in for it i think i'm in for it with this one it brought back other memories too as i'm sitting there because i haven't been to a giants game since 08 and i was thinking maybe this year and maybe i'll take like my oldest kid i'll go back to new york we'll go to a giants game i haven't, I went to the Super Bowl last year, but I don't go to a lot of football games,

not like basketball.

And then I was reminded of a story

which happened on a Thursday in 08.

And it was supposed to be like

the greatest week of my life, right?

We fly back to New York from LA.

Entourage going into season five.

We're having our New York premiere

of season five of Entourage,

which is always way more fun than the LA premiere because it's all our family and our friends, and it's just a wild party, great times. We do that on a Wednesday.
Next day, Thursday, I remember September 4th, Giants opening up against the then Redskins, getting their rings, you know, Strahan comes out of like a float, unbelievable night. I'm sitting, I'm on the field.
I get to put on the ring. I'm sitting first row.
Giants totally hooked me up. Watch the whole game.
I'm there like my cousins. Giants win.
Awesome night. I go home thinking, wow, this is almost like an episode of Entourage.
I'm living, I'm living the dream. It does not get better than this.
I wake up the next day at seven o'clock in the morning to 300 missed calls, 400 text messages. I'm immediately thinking who died? Someone's dead.
This is awful. Someone in my family's dead.
I find out that, look, in New York, WFAN is an institution of a sports radio station. It just is.
I listened to it as a kid. I still respect it.
They move a conversation in New York with sports easily. So what happened was they're doing, at the time it was Craig Carton and Boomer Esiason, they're doing their very big radio show in the morning.
And I think if memory serves me, Boomer's assistant comes in to tell a story about being at the Giants-Redskins game. He said, yeah, I was there.
It was great. I was on the field.
And, you know, that guy, Turtle from Entourage, whatever, he, like, sent one of his boys up to me talking about a hotel party after the game and do I want to come back. Is that a true story? Matt, they are crushing me on my hometown radio network, a place I really respect, Boomer, burying me.
All my friends are like, you're an idiot. How could you do that? What's wrong with you? Matt, want to know what I was most offended by? You are questioning my fandom by thinking I would be at a game like that, trying to invite some girl back to a hotel party.
First of all, I'd never send another dude up to a girl for me. Secondly, I was already in something that was a pretty good situation with the woman at the time.
Not my wife right now. And I don't think I've gotten more calls about that.
To this day, they still talk about it. They still every now and then fire it up and trash me.
Okay, let me ask. Did not happen.
Did not happen.

Okay.

So she just made that up out of the blue.

No, here's what I do think happened.

Now, I was at the game with a friend and a cousin-in-law.

He's married to my cousin.

Do you think I would send the guy who's married to my female cousin?

Someone threw you under the bus, dude.

For sure.

Do you think it's crazy to say that someone went up there, saw me on the field, and went up and said i'm gonna pretend to be uh turtle's boy over here and see if we could talk to this girl because i could promise you the two other people i was with it was not them and i did not send them and they tell this story to this day to this day first of all we need to get boomer on the pod that's for sure because i want to i want to hear this story. Does he still hate you? I don't know if he hates me.
I think he enjoys frying me to the point where I've gone back and forth with them on Twitter about this. Does he still fry you? I think they most recently talked about it like six or seven months ago.
And here's the funny thing. I almost worked at WFAN.
They offered me a job. Dude, that's got to just be like a dagger to your heart, dude, that your local radio station just doesn't like you.
And I haven't been to a Giants game since then. Well, let me go back.
Dude, you got to take the boys. That's an experience.
As bad as they may be or are, there's nothing better than taking. And because your oldest is five.
He's'm five right yeah so he's probably he's probably there he's probably ready to go sit through that that might be tough that might actually be a tough three hours for you though if they're losing they're gonna be losing which brings me to maybe to my next point i know i know quarterback is everything in the nfl right now i get it. It's facts.
I have held on to the Daniel Jones thing maybe longer than anyone else. It's got to be over.
I'm not trying to overreact to one game. They made the Vikings look like Super Bowl contenders.
So I think it's time to start. Are we drafting a quarterback officially? Well, we can ask Glazer that.
That's actually a good point. Yeah, I want to ask Jay, like, who do the Giants take? Dude, I feel you.
I got to be honest with you. I feel you on this.
I have been a Danny Dimes. I saw someone calling him, what, Danny Pennies? Oh, poor guy.
Although his pockets are deep, so he's got that. Yeah, listen, like the screen, the pick six, like that is just the worst luck.
I've had that happen. Like even like, I don't know what Aaron Rodgers, who threw a pick? Someone threw a, it got tipped, right? Like every time, that ball didn't get tipped by Danny Dimes.
I understand that. It went right to the defensive end.
He made a end he made a great play yeah i mean dude it's just like he made a great play that's a screen the ball but you never see that happen you rarely see the pick six on a screen yes uh but that just doesn't and i understand but it's also like defensive players never make that play too so like i can defend it both ways it's a bad. It sucks.
And it makes him look bad. I think he's got more pick sixes than touchdown passes or something.
I saw that stat like in the last year or something. Something wild.
I don't know. Andrew might be able to, our producer might be able to lift that.
I think he's got more pick sixes than actual touchdown passes. There's something floating around out there.
Dude, the island is bleak. It's barren.
Yeah, but, you know, I don't know. I mean, what do you want as a Giants fan? You want, who is it? Tyra, or who's the backup? It's Drew Locke.
I mean, Drew Locke. You want to see Drew Locke? Yeah, well, not yet, but I think you have to run Danny Dimes out there as painful as it.
Who knows? This can all be part of the plan. It might just be like, hey, let's just get a top three pick, draft a quarterback.
They were trying to get a quarterback in the draft. They tried to move up, and then they did pass on Penix and McCarthy.
So I guess how bad did they really want it? Is it the sort of thing, though, where now the situation is just so bad it's irreparable? Because he's in also a pretty bad situation. Not only is he playing bad, but he's also in a pretty rough situation for a quarterback.
Is this one of the worst situations you could be in? Yeah, dude. And that's what I always think.
Now, he's not young, but I always think of quarterbacks. And a lot of success is driven on your surrounding cast.
It's driven on coaching. It's driven on franchise.
And I will say this, quarterbacks can go to certain places and just die. They can.
And what I mean by that is if you go to a place who, one, an owner or a franchise, notoriously hasn't invested in the team and what's best in the team, right? There's a handful of places that I can mention and we know, okay? Or they don't spend money or they don't want to put your quarterback in a position to be successful. And if you look at Daniel Jones, and again, he's had ample opportunity, but their offensive line has been terrible.
I know they just drafted Malik Nabors, who I think is going to be a star, but he's a rookie. They got rid of the best player on the team in Saquon Barkley, who went off for the Phillies in week one, or Philadelphia in week one.
If you don't have a surrounding cast, I'm telling you, man, like like I'm telling you like two or three years go by then all of a sudden you're just you're you're done he now for Daniel Jones he's done enough where you saw potential right you guys got to a playoff right two years ago against those very Vikings which so I'm saying like he's done enough so he's in a little different place i look at some of these quarterbacks uh i want to mention sam darnold okay and i know he beat your giants i've hated on the whole time okay and listen to this he goes to the new york jets what five years ago yep they were awful dude awful awful and what happened he's getting he's just getting crushed out there he can't handle it blah blah blah sam darnold is talented now like is he a top 10 quarterback probably he is talented he is getting crushed why they got nobody around him his coaching was absolutely horrendous he goes to carolina and by the way carolina is even worse and we could we could talk about bryce young here in a second is even worse. Well, Baker Mayfield in Carolina.
Look what he's doing now. Look at Sam Darnold.
Sam Darnold goes to the Minnesota Vikings, a good franchise with a freaking awesome head coach and offensive minded play caller. And look what happened.
I know it's one week, but I'm telling you, Sam Darnold is going to have a great year. He's going to have a great year.
I promise you right now. He's not comeback player of the year, though.
He might not be comeback player of the year, but the dude, like, when you're in a system, I'm telling you, when you're in a system and you're coached, I've been coached in a quarterback room where I was literally saying, like, my son knows more. My unborn son knows more than this quarterback coach.
It is mind-boggling how bad some NFL coaches are. So all that being said, dude, like, it's tough.
Danny Dimes has been there for a while. But I'm telling you, man, when you go to a place and you don't have guys around you, like, it can just deteriorate very, very quickly.
Well, someone I know who might be liking what's going on with the Giants is Philly's own Andrew Gundling, our producer, who just sent us in the chat a tweet from Josh Dubow. Basically, since signing a four-year, $160 million contract with the Giants before last season, Daniel Jones has thrown more TD passes to the opposition, three pick sixes, than to his own team, two TD passes.
I don't know. That's why when you look at the Dak Prescott signing, it's like, yeah, of course.
Yeah. Whether you think Dak is an amazing quarterback or not, he's a good quarterback.
He's a really good quarterback. By the way, talk about walking into a game.
Who slept better Sunday night than Dak Prescott? Dak's won 65% of his starts. Think about that.
All I know is he got paid and then you would have said okay this will be really interesting he got that big contract they announced it before the game and if he goes and sucks in Cleveland that's going to start a whole new you know new cycle for 24 hours and he just goes and balls out and the Cowboys destroy what we thought is a good team in the Browns I would have been nice to be Dak Prescott yesterday I dude, just this quarterback money now is just, I mean, it's just thrown around like tic-tacs, dude. Like it is unbelievable.
Well, speaking of that game, that was the Fox game. That was also, you know, Brady's first game in the booth.
I know everyone's kind of had their takes flying around about, Oh, that was terrible. That was great.
Who Give them a chance. I don't know if you caught much of that game.
I watched a lot of that game. I did.
Yeah, I watched most of it. Cleveland's my team-in-law.
That's who my family roots for, so I want them to do good things, and they're in the AAC. Well, you did have a rough weekend.
It was terrible, bro. There's nothing good other than the food I prepped for my wife while I was watching the games.

Nothing else was good.

But Brady in the booth, I thought he did a good job.

That's a hard job.

I do envy it in some sense.

But I remember we had Brady on Entourage years ago.

Talk about what fans yell at me all the time.

They'll come up and shout, Tom Brady sucks balls because that's what my character says to him you know brady comes on the show obviously not an actor no coming off the injury season too so no one had seen him in a while probably the longest anyone's ever gone without talking about tom brady and yeah he comes on the show late notice because uh that episode was supposed to be for other quarterbacks we can get to that if we want comes on first take first take, like every actor. It was a little rough.
Take two, getting better. By take three or four, it's like, oh my God, this guy could be an actor if he wants to.
You guys were golfing. Weren't you golfing in that scene? The episode is a golf episode, which if memory serves me correct, that episode was requested by the Manning brothers.
Peyton and Eli wanted to do the show. I think this is 07, maybe 08.
They wanted to do the show. Doug Allen writes this whole thing about the Chase brothers versus the Manning brothers.
And then something happened, call it scheduling or change of heart. 10 days before, we have the whole episode prepped, ready to go, money being spent.
They can't do it. They're out.
We have no one to fill the spot. And this is where having Wahlberg as your executive producer is unbelievable because he comes into the production office and basically says, you want me to call Tom? We're all looking around like, what? Tom's selling? What Tom are you talking about? He's like, Brady.
We're like, yeah, go call him. He goes out in the hallway, comes back two minutes later.
He's like, oh, yeah, Brady's going to do it. It'll be me and Brady.
We'll fill in. So I think it ends up being better in a weird way because of the Giants Patriots stuff all those years later.
But he was great on the show. It took him a little bit of a warm up, a few takes in and the next thing you know, he's rocking takes.
And I think that's exactly what's going to happen with the broadcasting job. That's a hard gig.
Dude, do you know, like, I don't think, so there's two, ways to kind of when you prepare for either studio, which is much different, or calling a game. So in studio, this was the advice, which is me.
Like, I'm on a pregame show, kind of a big show, whatever. But, like, we were always, like, the advice I was given was, like, study a mile wide, an inch deep.
Be able to talk about everything, surface level, substance, some of that, but be able to talk about everything because you're, you're, you know, you're basically 20 seconds of time when you speak, right? When you call a game, it's an inch wide and a mile deep. You are digging into a team, two teams.
You're digging into stories. You're digging into into from last year to this year, players, all of these things.
And it is, it is a, it is an art form. It is a skill, it is a skill set.
You talk to anybody, even the best, like, and I would say this, like, I thought he did a good job. First of all, like Tom's my, Tom's the best and he will prepare and work harder at this than anybody just because that's his that's his mentality.
I think the problem is and sometimes in that is like and you know this just watching games like, you know, like less is more right. When do you when do you come in to talk about a play? When do you let Kevin Burkhart, his teammate who's one of the best in the business? You know, you give him layups, right? You get, like, that's the job of the play-by-play is to give the color guy layups, like, no matter who you are.
He's going to be fantastic. The problem with his is he's so smart and he's got so much to say that there's not enough time to do that.
And I think that's what, I mean, can you imagine, like, dude, like, sitting down with Tom for three hours and just picking his brain about football would be like, it'd be like the greatest thing of all time. But yeah, now he's got to, he's got to talk about that in a live game, in a setting against teams and players that he just played against.
And like, you got to find your rhythm and that's what it's about. So, uh, he's going to be great.
You know, it's, it's a, it's, I thought I like, I actually enjoyed watching it. And that's not me just because he's at Fox.
So this, like, I just think Tom is going to be fantastic at it. I think it'll just get taken used to.
The more reps he gets, the better he's going to be. But, dude, the dude's the GOAT for a reason.
He'll end up being one of the best to do it for sure. Yeah, I think everybody does want the feeling of, hey, we just watched the game with Tom Brady.
That's not how live television works. It's hard.
Now, once he gets, yeah, once he gets better, you'd be like, like, I think you want to, like, you want to walk away from a game, right? Learning something, right? Learning something. And his brain is just, I mean, it's ridiculous.
So, like, it'll get there. And there's going to be little nuggets and little anecdotes and things about defense and this, and it's, he's going to get there, man.
I'm telling you that guy, but talk about like the expectation. I mean, like getting paid 300 plus mil, the best ever to do it walks in on that's nerve wracking.
I don't care who you are, man. Like it is, I've, I've never called the game, but even in studio, even now when the red light comes on like TV and you, I mean, you've, you're, you obviously like when you're, when you're live and you're going through your, like it is i've i've never called the game but even in studio even now when the red light comes on like tv and you i mean you've you're you obviously like when you're when you're live and you're going through your like it is like it's it's different you know it's different than playing so live is a whole different beast oh dude it's a whole beast man i could barely handle this podcast and we record so i can't imagine being live we'll keep looking i think he's gonna be fine i i'd say everybody everybody chill out.
It'll get there. Yeah, he'll get there.
Did you like it? You liked it? Brady in the booth? Yeah. I thought where it really worked for me, and look, by the way, the game wasn't good.
And that's the thing. The game, is he supposed to trash Deshaun Watson? No, leave all of us on Twitter to do that because that's what everybody did.
You know, the Cowboys made it look easy. So what is he supposed to say? Yeah, the Cowboys pass rush is unbelievable.
The Browns can't handle it. Deshaun Watson's having problems.
There really wasn't a lot of climactic things for him to discuss. I thought he filled a lot of time in a good way toward the end when the game was already in hand when he started talking about, you know, being an athlete, everyone's kind of, he essentially said,

everyone's kissing your ass, right?

I enjoy when a coach or someone calls you out

and puts your name on it.

And I thought that's where, it was almost like a sneak peek.

You know he's going to do that more,

where he stopped just trying to know everything

about those players on the field

and gave you a little Brady.

So I thought I saw enough with that. And then I now want to see him in a good game.
And he can't control that. But I do want to see him in a good game.
He's doing Cowboys Saints in week two. It's crazy he's doing two Cowboy games in a row.
The Saints, I don't know if we could read too much into what they did to Carolina. Dude, almost a 50 burger on Carolina week one I don't

get that's tough in the NFL well Carolina my poor my poor guy Bryce Young man you know Bryce right I love yeah I that's just one of those situations where again I think you got to play better right you can make better choices and I didn't want I didn't watch the film I saw part of the game and some highlights but you just you just again another situation where it's just not a lot around you there's just not and you know like all no disrespect to carolina and the fans just like it's like i've played there a handful like you know like it's just a tough place to be and you go back to last year but like, right? Darnold. Oh, no, Sam was in San Francisco.
But he's there a couple of years ago. He was there.
Baker was there. Yeah, it's just like, man, like it's just it's tough.
And I just feel for him like he might be better off in a year or two, like just getting out of there, having a fresh start somewhere else. And then because I still think he's uber talented.
But again, like I said, like sometimes you, you can kind of go to places and they forget about you. And all of a sudden you're year four or five and it's like, wow, like what, what am I doing now? You know, like it's, I don't know.
I'm rooting for him though. Have you checked out the slate? Is there a game that jumps out to you this week that I always like to say, what game, if you could go to just as a spectator, would you want to go to? Is there a game? Because I have one.

It's a very easy one.

I have one that I would just love to go to.

Yeah, you tell me.

I'm looking up right now.

Well, I just think that the Bengals Chiefs is the most compelling game of the week for so many reasons.

Can the Chiefs build off of what they did week one?

Obviously, the Bengals had maybe the most disappointing.

They look bad.

They were just a teaser, parlay, suicide pool killer for everybody. Killed so many dreams, including some of mine, by the way, it just happened.
So they have to respond. That's the one I would, I would, I think I'd want to go to.
I mean, I'm looking here. I mean, I think, I think I know you're, I feel like I could predict yours.
What is it? If I had to guess you, I feel like you're going Sunday night to Houston to watch CJ Stroud against your boy Caleb. Am I right? You're right.
You're my boy? That was the one... That's the one that stood out.
I mean, there's so much there for you. You got Caleb, you got CJ.
Houston's a fun city. Yeah, I played there.
It was one of my favorite places. I loved...
I played there two years, man. I loved it.
And I love CJ Stroud. I got to know him and covering him in Ohio State.
Great kid, dude. And just honestly, like one of my favorite players, just a great kid, works his butt off.
Obviously, man, had a great year. That's a fun...
D'Amico Ryans was my teammate in Houston. I know D'Amico well well like he's awesome he's just the best dude and then yeah the bears like caleb obviously the bears kind of won defense and special teams this past week but uh that's an exciting game like both young teams both exciting teams both potentially playoff teams again uh at least for the bears this year so that would be it that's a nice that's a nice uh weekend.
Well, it was a great guest in week one. Ashton Kutcher was smiling with that Bears win.
We have a great guest for you this week. We're going to take a quick break.
When we come back, Glazer, the one and only Jay Glazer joining us on Throwbacks. We'll be right back.
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He's my LA big bro. That's how I always refer.
Anytime his name comes up, I say that's literally my LA big brother. Jay Glazer is here with us.
Jay, thank you for stopping by and hanging with us. Absolutely.
You got my guys, man. We've all been fighting here for a long time, the three of us.
I know. I want to hear this story about you and Jerry.
What about you? You and I started training Liner in MMA in like 2008. Right? Yeah, it was 2008.
Something like that. When did you come out? Yeah, we were...
By the way, I say this still to this day. Well, it goes without saying the hardest workout of all time.
But I remember we were up in Scottsdale or Phoenix. And I think it was 07 or 08 summer offseason, and you were there, and you were like, dude, come train with me.
And I was kind of, you know, it was like after my rookie year, I was trying to figure out like, and we trained with Bader. I made you a month.
You did. Trying.
Bader and CB Dalloway. Yep.
Ryan Bader and Aaron Simpson. And Jamie Varner.
And I'll never forget this, dude. So, like, I'm training one day.
And I'm doing this. Like, I'm carrying the heavy bag, like, corner to corner on the mat.
I'm beating it down. I'm going.
I'm, like, doing, like, these rounds, right? For, like, 30 or 45 minutes. And this was one specific day.
And I like to pride myself. Like, I still work hard.
Like, I respected. Like, it pride myself.
Like I'm not, I'm never going to quit. I'm not going to tap out.
I'm not going to throw up. Like I'm just going to go.
And dude, it was like 30 minutes in. And I'm like, I'm breathing.
I'm like, dude, this is rough. And then all of a sudden, I think it was Jay or it might've been Bader.
Cause they were just screwing with me the whole time. They're like, dude, that wasn't even the workout, bro.
That was our warmup. I swear to God, I'm like, what? Dude.
And then they were just screwing with me the whole time they're like dude that wasn't even the workout bro that was our warm-up i swear to god i'm like what dude and then they were doing like it was like another two hours of lifting and all that i'm just like dude i this is why i'm not a fighter those guys and jay you guys are just built different dude it's like the mentality but it was awesome man i had such a blast if we can make football easy that's what i try to do right the guys we were training back then it was jared allen victor hobson like matt matt starks um but the whole point is if i can get you to do a three-minute round with a one-minute break you damn sure could do a seven-second round with one minute break in football right so that's the whole thing is like you push yourself and push yourself our whole program is called unbreak. We push our breaking points so everything else becomes easy.

But hey, and also, Matt,

like, man, when we got you,

I was like, hey, Matt,

I don't want you to sit back in the pocket

and be like, oh, I got to get away

from this guy, this guy, this guy.

I'm like, yeah, I want you to go.

I'm getting that motherfucker.

I'm getting that motherfucker.

I'm getting that motherfucker.

Like, we're relentless.

We're playing on.

And you had a half against the Steelers

in preseason where you threw for like

330 and a half. Green Bay.

Green Bay. I was like, there

he is. And then you got hurt.
I'm like,

man. Dude, remember we went

to Couture's place

in Vegas. Well, by the way, so

Patrick Willis, who, by the way, my tooth is still chipped

from Patrick Willis on Monday Night Football

2007.

I didn't even wear a mouthpiece.

Just completely annihilated me. Remember this, Jay? We were sitting there, and I took my pops.
This was like a fun, great couple days for us. And Vitor Belfort was getting ready to fight, I think, Anderson Silva.
I think he ended up, I don't know if he backed out, but he ended up not fighting in that fight. But I was playing catch with Vitor Belfort.
In the cage. By the way, like, right, one of the greatest fighters, athletes.
This dude looked like he had two right hands catching the ball. Like, he could not throw.
He couldn't catch. And by the way, his son.
His son's a great quarterback now. His son's a great quarterback.
Yeah. It's freaking amazing.
It started with you. He's in the cage.
I think it was Forrest Griffin. Forrest Griffin.
Yeah, he was the one. Right? Gina Carano was there.
Definitely. These guys are trying to throw a football.
Obviously, they can't. They're just so great.
We also had, wait, we had a couple of the Saints. Had a jet.
They all got popped for Starcaps. And they landed and come train with us.
And they ended up winning their appeal. So it was Calvin Pace.
It was a couple of the Saints. They landed to train with us in Vegas because I didn't have a gym in L.A.
then, and by the time they landed, the GM had called and said, no, come back. You just won your appeal.
Ended up going back. I think we had Calvin Pace for a day, and then he went back to the Jets, yeah.
Jay, was I the first actor that you've trained? You've gone on to train lots of actors. You opened up the L.A.
gym, but I came to you when I was attached to play Arturo Gatti. Yeah.
The movie ended up not getting made. It was my favorite fighter of all time.
Yeah, you're looking like him, too. That was the big thing.
Like, can we get you to look like him? Was that when Jerry was a little heavier? Or was that what he was like? No, no, Jerry. No, we leaned Jerry out like crazy with his boxing training.
But you know what, Jerry? We trained before I opened Unbreakable. Somebody had connected.
Oh, I think Strahan connected us to train you. It was Strahan and Brad Slater connected.
Right, Strahan and Brad Slater to train you to look like Arturo Gatti, to fight like him. And you and I were going around a bunch of just random gyms.
Yes. Training.
And yeah, Jerry could box. Jerry picked it up big time.
You know what, too? I've trained a lot of performers. And they're a lot better than a lot of the athletes in a way because they take their ego out of it.
They're not trying to kill it, right? And plus, like, especially like musical performers like Demi Lovato and Wiz Khalifa and them, because they do so much choreography, they could put together steps of, you know, move your hip here and turn your toe over here and move your hips over this way, better than us with our lung keg egos. And they take the ego out of it and it's just they're just better out of it than us well it is humbling walking into your gym because then you open up unbreakable on sunset awesome gym i walk in there i was one of the first maybe the first client by the time the football players rolled in i'm rolling into workout do my actor stuff just looked apart and it's like oh jadavian clowny there's Lane Johnson oh Jay looked apart.
And it's like, oh, Jadavian Clowney, there's Lane Johnson. Oh, Jay comes up to me.
He's like, today, oh, someone, I got you paired with Aaron Rodgers today. I'm like, oh, I'm working out.
I worked out for three weeks. But then it almost backfired because I was doing a lot of the boxing stuff.
And Orlando Skandrick was working out there as well. And obviously he was on the Cowboys.
So him and I were chirping, good spirited, but you know when it's like- We sell a locker room there, right? So we sell my immaturity, no doubt, wherever we go. No doubt, right? And that's what's great about a locker room.
Like if the rest of the world acted like a locker room, we wouldn't be so fucked up, right? We'd get along a lot. Very true.
Go ahead, Jerry. Yeah.
Well, no. So I'm hitting mitts with Jay one day and he's like, you know what? Orlando, get over here.
He's like, Jerry would beat your ass. And Orlando's obviously like, what? And now Jay's like, all right, one, two, and then slip, and then give me that hard overhand.
Right, as hard as you can. And Jay leans his mitt into it, too, so you really get the pop.
Wow. And now everyone in the gym starts filtering over to the point where I sent Matt the picture, and I sent you the picture, too.
We had, like, a scheduled fight. Yep.
We were We were going to like spar in the gym. Now, Jay, I never told you this.
I was really nervous because I mean, I didn't act nervous. That's our whole thing.
You don't show it. You don't show it.
And hey, not on that thing we talked about, Jerry would hit. I'd be like, Orlando, Jerry's going to fuck you up.
Of course he would. Orlando, you can't deal with this.
And then Orlando loves to talk. So he'd come over.
We made it a thing. And then we ended up doing a towel on the tape.
Yes. And Matt saw the picture and said, just based off the picture, Matt goes, oh, Orlando would beat your ass.
Just based off the picture. I mean, dude, I'm just, listen.
Dude, you're my boy, man. I got your back.
I got your back. He just looks way bigger than you.
And then there's Jay in the background. I don't care about it.
And I don't want to tell Jerry, I don't care if you win or lose. Just be willing to fight.
Hell yeah. That makes you real dangerous if you take that ego out.
Well, the coolest thing too is I remember when you had Lane Johnson in there. And I remember this specifically because I think he just started.
I don't have to get any Pro Bowls at this point yet. No, he did not.
He threw up nine times in the first. I remember him going outside.
He was puking, coming right back and hitting the workout. And I think the dude's been in the Pro Bowl every year since then.
He kind of has been our poster child for what that program was and him and Jared Allen and Gusick. But man, Lane really took it upon himself to say, okay, I'm not going to show it.
I'm going to be relentless. I'm going to see where everybody else puts their hands on their hips.
And when they start huffing and puffing, then I'm going to start sharpening my weapons. I'm going to make it a fight.
And that's the whole thing. Like, if you turn any sport you're playing or business, you're making a fight.
Most people don't sign up to fight. Most people sign up to play a sport.
Those people sign up to play a sport and you're making a fight, they're going to tap out. They're done.
And it's exactly, I mean, Lane just took it on. Like we were so proud of him in every little thing he did.
Because it wasn't just like we teach violent hand fighting. We teach leverage.
But the biggest part was, is again, I talked to Ego a bunch. We wore Lane out.
And he was like, I'm going to take my ass whoopings like a man. It's fine.
It's going to make me better. He just – and a lot of guys can't do that.
A lot of guys, when you beat up on them, they're like, oh, no, I'm not looking good. A lot of guys want to be famous instead of being great.
Two totally different things. Lane is great.
Who are you training

currently? You still got some guys out there?

Yeah, this offseason I trained Derwin James,

Max Crosby a little bit, but

man, how about this? The first

15 minutes in,

Derwin

tears my bicep tendon,

my supraspinatus, and my rotator cuff.

And then Max comes

in, and he exacerbates it. He actually, was one like hand fighting thing that max got me on where it just popped and i was gone he knew it later on i talked about it i was like hey by the way guys because again i tell these guys like we don't show it we don't show it if you hurt or you're tired in that cage or on that field you will never ever ever ever know and so i told those guys month later, they've been trying to do surgery on me ever since.
I was supposed to get surgery in April, but I got married. And then when I got back, he was supposed to do it.
But then he went South France. He actually just hit me up the other day to do it.
But I just went down to Panama and got some stem cells at a place called Origins. I'm feeling good.
I don't know if I'm going to hit it or not, but I'm walking around with a torn bicep tendon this whole time. It didn't stop you, too, this summer, right? You went on your Glazer tour, right? Yeah, absolutely.
You hit all the training camps? Yep, absolutely. A billion percent.
You know, you're one of the best in the business, right? Insider. And I find your job fascinating.
I play the sport. You know, you and I have been close for a long time, so i kind of understand the inner workings of that but like how did how does that begin for you like like what is the story behind your job and how you got to this point my god no i'm i gotta i almost say like i kind of made a career out of nothing because there was no minute byby-minute breaking news guy.
But here's the thing, guys. The truth is, Jerry, you know this.
I started my career interned at WFAN in 89, 90. Got a job covering the Giants in 93.
There was no internet back then. I made $9,450 a year for the first 11 years of my career.
11 years. But I walked in that giant locker room the first day, got a job for this little Giants newspaper called Giants Extra where they went Chapter 11 my first month.
And I got New York One TV started up, and they gave me $0. Eventually, they gave me $450 a year.
Three installments of $150. But I walked in that giant locker room from day one.
I'm like, man, how could I be different? Like, if these dudes are going to, if they work 40 hours a week, I'm going to work them not by a little, by a lot. Like, you know, the blueprint for greatness, not on greatness, but it's not a big secret.

Find out who the best is and do more than them.

Buy a lot.

And it's those hours you put in that no one's watching.

So, man, every single day, if those guys work 40 hours, I work 100.

And I wasn't able to pay my other bills because I couldn't get, like,

side jobs and side hustling and stuff.

But the other thing I said is, man,

how can I be different from everybody else in here?

These guys, I felt the old school reporters used their pen as a weapon. I'm going to start relationships.
And I got murdered for it for years for I'm not being objective. I'm friends with the players and friends with the coaches.
I'm like, I got more in common with these guys than I do you guys. But I also said, I don't think you're being objective because if they don't talk to you, you're killing them.
So they used to write about me and Strahan and they would like, man, they torture just guests. And every time I tried to get a job, they would like, the bosses would go ask the reporters and I'd get killed.
Then I'm not being objective, but I just felt like everything I do is relationship based. And I just had this confidence like, man, eventually, like, you know, you build a better mousetrap, someone's eventually going to want to buy it.
But it took 11 freaking years. And, like, during that whole time, I didn't have enough money to go from New York City, take a subway to the bus to Giant Stadium back every day.
Every freaking day, I had a way for Strahan. didn't even live in the city to drive me back in new york city so i'm like 28 grand in lincoln tunnel fair but as a result that i'd sit there every day and talk to players and coaches in the parking lot and build up the relationships and i just became like a relationship guy then um when free agency began And my name had kind of gotten around.
And again, it wasn't like internet or film.

But I... became like a relationship guy then um when free agency began my name had kind of gotten around and again it wasn't like internet or film but i started getting calls from people and most people don't know this i started getting calls from these low level like scouts and coaching assistants saying hey we hear you know these players what do you know about keishon johnson what do you know about michael brooks what do you know about this, that player? We hear you're the guy that knows all the players.
Well, about 35, 40 of those guys have gone on to become head coaches and GMs. They're role-level guys that I just talk to everybody.
That's where ADHD comes in handy. Like, you just want to talk and talk.
And I, you know, I've built up relationships over the years. And I always, I always had this thing of, I'm not going to go for the scoop.
I'm going to try and be the most trusted guy in sports. That's it.
And with, you know, I've built up relationships over the years. And I always had this thing of, I'm not going to go for the scoop.
I'm going to try and be the most trusted guy in sports. And that's it.
And with, you know, that, the scoops will come. Right.
Just don't ever burn anybody. And I don't need them.
By the way, I've had some really, really rough stories and a lot of friends of mine. But my thing is, who would you rather have it? Me or someone else? Because I'm going to be fair about it.
So I've, you know, I've had friends pop for steroids. I've broken it.
I've had friends get arrested for stealing stuff in locker rooms. I've broken it and they've talked to me about it because you have that trust that you build up.
Well, eventually guys, that internet thing came out in 99th. Thank God almighty.
I finally got a full-time job for 50 grand for CBS. And then that got me on national TV and then WCBS.
I'm sorry, CBS Sportsline.com. So me and like Chris Mortensen and John Clayton and Len Pasquale, the first minute by minute breaking news guys to do it.
And then back then, man, I had everything. And Jerry, you were around back then.
Also, Matt, you were too. I had every little breaking story and thank God over the years, I've been able to just, you know, to, as it become a Twitter war, Fox has been like, hey, we just need you to be grateful on Fox NFL Sunday.
And you don't have to tweet first before everybody else because that's bull. Well, that's what I wanted to ask you too because I remember your, I was always obsessed with like your Sunday routine.
Didn't you like, not worse, maybe a Saturday night, right? Didn't you go like to the Peninsula Hotel or something? You went to the hotel, Beverly Wilshire, and you and your phone sit down. You'd be working.
It starts Friday, though. It starts Friday.
I usually get a day drinking spot, and I sit there and get on the phone. I call every single team.
I still do it. Every team, every week, every head coach, every GM.
Not it there's there's you know a thousand phone calls that go into me getting five stories per weekend and there's you know i put out one percent of what i know that's it so one percent yeah it's less but but it's like i have a responsibility to those guys in that show to do my job better than anybody else. And I've always taken that.
Like I'm responsible to them. I'm never going to – as I've gotten bigger and bigger too, I remember Dan Quinn years ago.
I'm like at the height. I'm doing ballers.
I'm like year three, and I'm breaking everything. And I still do my training camp tour every year, which is 40 days on the road.
I go from team to team to team to team, just me, still do it. And DQ said, what are you, like, why are you still here? So, what do you mean? He said, haven't you moved up and on from this? My brother is no up and on from this.
Like you guys are my family. You're my community.
You're, you helped me between the years more than anything. There is no, I don't care how big I get the NFL for me.
That's, that is my, that's my family. I need my teams and there's no moving up and on from that.
He's like, oh, I get it. You broke the IUC, right? Was that this week? That was a big one.
That was a fascinating one. So take us behind the scenes of how that transpired, if you can.
I was actually, it's funny because I was, oh's, here's one for you. So I'll go back.
I happen to be in Steelers camp. You guys know me.
I always put weird groups together. I'm in Steelers camp.
Here's something nobody knows. I'm in Steelers camp.
I bring Brent Michaels with me because he's from Pittsburgh. that's right that's right okay and now that i say i'm gonna bring you here but i want you to take Mason Tomlin, who's Mike Tomlin's son.
And I want you to meet with him. He's a, he's a musician.
So I want you to meet. So we met out here at Soho Malibu hooked.
Everything's great. And he's like, you know what Mason? I think you got it.
I'll have you open up for me. He actually had Mike Tomlin's son open up for him in Pittsburgh in July.
That's awesome. I said, as a result, I'm going to bring you to camp.
So I bring him to Steelers camp, right? And he was like, I was like, I do a lot of charity. He's my charity today.
And while I'm there, the Niners are trying to get a trade. The Steelers are trying to trade for Ayuk.
Okay. But in the meantime, so what happened was the Niners had talked to a couple other teams, but Ayook wouldn't go in Cleveland and New England.
He wanted to go to Pittsburgh, but the Niners needed a receiver back. So basically they were getting a two and a three and something else from Pittsburgh, and then they had like another trade with that three to go to another team, and that would have completed it.
Well, we're sitting there, me and Brett Michaels and Mason Tomlin and Mike Tomlin in Mike's dorm room. And you guys know me, man.
I like to socialize when I'm on the road. So Mike T has called off the rest of his meetings because I'm in town for the day.
You know how it is, Matt, when I come in. It's more King Glaze, right? Let's go.
I work out with the team. I'm pushing guys in the huddle.
I eat with them. I'll get IVs.
I'll work out. They do my laundry, everything.
So here's the best part. So John Lynch, I want to break the story after I see what's going on.
I'm sitting there in Mike Tomlin's dorm room and the phone's sitting there and Lynch isn't getting back to me. He's not getting back to Tomlin and it's going on and on.
Well, now he's getting in the way of my day drinking. So he's not getting back to me.
He's not getting back to Mason. And I'm like, Hey, let's I'm starving.
Let's go. So we go to this little bar called Dino's, me, Mike T and Brett Michaels and Mason.
And he, and Lynch won't come back to us. So we're like, Mason text John Lynch, this is Mike Tomlin's son.
Text John Lynch. Tell him he is getting in the way of our day drinking day.
Okay? And our beer wings. So he heads up Lynch.
And two seconds, Lynch gets back to Tomlin's son. We're like, he won't come back to us.
We need to get back to Mason Tomlin. Right? So we're like, Lynch, let's go.
We got things to do here. I got a story to break.

And next thing you know, he goes dark again.

So I have my wife, Rosie, hit up John Lynch.

And she says something like, hey, John, this is Rosie, Jay Glazer's wife.

Jay really needs his routines.

There are reports that you're getting in the way of their day drinking day. Is there a way you could please complete this trade so he can get back in his routine? And I don't have to hear about it from, from my husband and Mike T and John Lynch just gets back to Rosie.
Oh no, Rosie, not you. Finally, we're keeping it going.
I said, Brett, now you got to do it. So then Brett Michaels hits him up going, God, can you please get this thing going? So I was there when it was actually happening the original time.
But this one, yeah, this was last week. And, you know, it's funny because I was with the Niners in Vegas.
They kind of pulled their offer originally. And then when he, when I reported this weekend, that he was getting traded to the steelers he happened to show up early and he went downstairs he found kyle and kyle's trying to get on the phone with lynch and all those guys and can't get on the phone with him and he sprints upstairs luckily kyle works out he sprinted upstairs and was able to you know put a put a stop to it um but it was it was pretty wild just to that's great yeah but that the trust.
If you're there and you're around it, you see it all. You get more insight than anybody else.
That's the most Glazer story ever. I was with Bret Michaels, Mike T's kid, and my wife was texting John Lynch.
Could you imagine if Rosie was responsible for that trade happening? That's amazing. Rosie, Rosie hears a lot of stuff that goes on in the NFL.
She's probably the second best insider out there. She could.
Yeah. She, I imagine she has some of the other 99% of the stuff that you don't put.
Yeah. She hears it all.
And it's funny too, because now she's changed my life. You know, I got married in May.
Congrats. Yes.
That's a huge deal. Huge.
Hey, you guys have been around my crazy for a long time for a long time i didn't feel worthy of it and um i sabotaged everything i've ever been in because i didn't feel worthy of it and you know with her i thank god thank god i've opened up now talk about this stuff because i've done the work where i could feel worthy you know when, when you have, here, I go with the ADD,

but when you have depression, anxiety, it makes you feel, again,

like for me, like you're not worthy of it.

The sky's going to fall.

And the pain of when the sky's going to fall, for me,

is worse than the sky falling.

So you speed it up and you sabotage everything that's good. And this is the first time in my life I'm not sabotaging something that's great because I've been able to open up and do this work.
And then I'm 54. It's never too late to find love.
You just got to work your ass off. And you got to be relentless.
I attack it as relentless as anything else. But yeah, she's changed my life, man.
She's incredible. That's so good to hear.
And I'm really, really happy for you. And kind of, you know, you mentioned a lot about depression and stuff like that.
And that's also been a big part of our relationship. And now I know you're doing it with players too.
You know, you have your podcast, Unbreakable. I mean, literally the Sean McVay and Michael Phelps episode was unbelievable.
You you wrote the you wrote a book you have the unbreakable book so like at what point did you know hey i want to start talking to players coaches in the nfl or were you always just doing it and you just figured like i'm just going to try to make this as acceptable as possible because some people still struggle to let their anxiety and their stuff get out there well you know they came for me to write book, and I didn't want to write an NFL insider book because I don't want to look over my shoulder with my secrets. But really, like, I started to open up to players and fighters.
Me and Randy Couture and Chuck Liddell, we always open up about this because no one's questioning your manhood. So you can open up on the drop of a dime.
I can cry. Jerry, you see me cry in a cage with these guys.
Like, no one's questioning my manhood. But then when I started, you know, I started a charity a long time ago called MVP, and I was able to open up in front of these combat vets where I take combat vets in.
And Jerry, you were at the first session, I think. We put these combat vets and ex-athletes together, and it's really, we work out for about half hour, but then we start opening up about mental health stuff and opening up to those combat vets gave me the confidence that if i can open up to these cats and not be judged then i could use that for the rest of the world and it's interesting i talk to teams now and i tell look i've gotten brought in to talk to nfl teams for, but about violence, about the unbreakable way,

the MMA mindset, the fighter mentality.

And again, I tell these guys, if I am hurt or tired,

you will never, ever, ever know.

My partner in all that, Randy Couture,

got his arm broken in half in the heavyweight championship of the world

by Gabriel Gonzaga.

Never showed it.

Never showed it.

Right?

If they showed it, they're going to end the fight. He loses the title.
You don't ever show it. We talked about Lane Johnson before.
Lane played with two torn adductors. You'll never know.
And you need that in football and fighting. But I tell teams, it's the same mentality, especially us men, off that field, outside of that cage.
It gets a lot of us, one of throw ourselves off a bridge, returns to drugs and alcohol. And I'm one of them.
And, you know, for me, you know, I didn't open up. I have clinical depression, anxiety, ADHD, bipolar, you name it, I got it.
And I just hit it with Vicodin and Adderall and alcohol for years because I'd rather have have gotten in trouble going out and get arrested than admit that I have some issues. And now that I'm able to admit it, all it's done has gotten me so much closer together with people.
And I tell these guys, look, like mental health is so reactive nowadays. You don't just like catch passes when you have the drops or lifts, when you're getting weak, you're always doing it.
But mental health, you guys are only going to see a therapist after the sky's falling. And that's too late.
You got to work on it constantly. You probably think, well, there's not enough therapists.
You do. I mean, you got 90 therapists in this room with you right now.
And it makes you so much closer when you're vulnerable and you lean into each other. And for those players who say, well, I'm too embarrassed.
The first time, first time I ever came out with anything I did on social media, which is accessible. And social media is a big problem that we have.
Like you don't have to have clinical like I do to go through because we're comparing ourselves to everybody else's filtered. Second highlights all day, like on Instagram and Facebook.
How are you supposed to survive that? Or on Twitter, just get and talk to it and beat down. Awful.
And, you know, first time I did it, it was on social media. I said, guys, this is the thing.
I wrote a book. I know what's on those pages.
I don't want to wait for the book to come out to be able to help people. And here's the truth.
I have put a mask on all these years. I never asked for help.
So here's my way of saying I want to help help everybody else now and drop your comments. If you understand what I'm talking about.
And within two minutes, Mercedes Lewis is now in his 19th year who I've trained for 15 years. First call.
He said, coach, man, I knew you were crazy and that's a badge of honor in football and fighting, but I didn't know you were in pain. I'm sorry.
I got you.

What? Does that sound like someone's shaming me?

That dude checks up on me three times a week now.

Or Michael Strahan, my baby sister, you know, my best friend ever.

I didn't tell him until right around the book. And he's like,

why have you never told me? I'm like, I don't make the rules up for this dude. I was, we're so competitive.
I was ashamed. He goes, and this really hit me.

He said, but you took away my chance to be your best friend for 30 years.

the

Thank you. So I tell these teams, if you could lean into each other like this, think how much closer this will make you.
Those are bonds. Those are brothers.
That's your equity. That's what we've got to start doing.
And that's what I'm trying to lead the charge on now for all men and women, everybody. Just open up, man.
We deserve it. That's incredible.
Honestly, Jay, I'm proud of you, man. Like I know we go way back, but proud of, you know, the advocate that you are for mental health and wellness.
And then just obviously the role that you've played in kind of probably like you're talking about the pain that you had, but you never let anybody show up, but the role that you played in Jerry and I were a part of that. We're a part of your journey.
You were a part of our journey. Uh, so here on throwbacks, man, like, honestly, thank you.
Like we never really, you know, we, we, when we hang out, we have fun and all that, but like, that was really, really, uh, inspiring. Like I actually got goosebumps listening to you.
So I just want to say, I appreciate you for having that part of my journey as well, man. And just being, you've just always been a brother and a great friend to everybody, dude.
So, and I'm glad you found happiness too, man. With Rosie.
54 years. Like it's never too late.
Never. I just had a player ask me recently, like, man, please tell me there's light at the end of the tunnel.
And he admitted to me that he attempted suicide. And I said, Hey, dude, you open up to people about this.
You may save someone's life. And that's the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
But I'm 54. I never knew I was able, that I could ever feel this level of joy until now because I'm doing this work.
It's worth it. It's worth it.
And I also realized, man, I had to go through this pain so I could help others through theirs. That gave me this equity, this experience.
But at the same time, I try to always know like, man, but God in the universe made all my other dreams come true to keep you afloat the whole time. And it's hard to see it when you're in it.
Like it's really really difficult. But, again, you guys have seen the real Jay Glegel.

I've had meltdowns in front of y'all, and, you know,

it wasn't always pretty, but it's been authentic.

And it's, like I said, for me to be able to – I used to always think that I was cursed by the –

now I feel like God blessed me with it

so I could use my pain to help others through theirs, man.

We deserve it. We deserve to be happy.

Jay, I'm proud to call you my L. bro.
Thank you for coming on. Keep doing, just keep doing it.
We all need it. Honestly, you're setting a great example.
I've learned a lot from you and I miss you. I don't get to see you as much anymore, but I always know you're a phone call or a text away and you know I am for you.
And sometimes that's all you's all you need. I'm going to end with this.
I think I know your answer. I know your answer, but I have to ask any, any tidbits for us going into week three.
I feel like I know what you're going to say. Week two.
Week two. He still hung up on his giants.
Just destroyed by the fact that that was horrible. I just, cause I that was horrible.
This is something I always would ask you. I always try to get something out of him while working out.
Can we break it on the pod? Coach, I had a good workout today. Can you tell me something? No, get away from it.
Watch on Sunday. You'll find out.
That's exactly right. We're all going to watch on Sunday.
Jerry's been in there, though, one time. Oh, man.
Weren't you in there? I broke the story that Jimmy Graham was getting traded to Seattle. And the backup tight end from Seattle was in the gym.
And I came in like, guys, I just broke this. And I didn't realize.
I'm like, oh, what a... You broke it to the player.
Yeah. So your answer is watch on Sunday.
Watch on Sunday. All right.
We love you, buddy. Honestly, thank you so, so much.
Love to Rosie. And we'll check in with you soon.
We'll watch you on Sunday for what you're going to break. Absolutely.
Thanks, Jay. Love you guys.
All right. Big thank you to my big bro, Jay Glazer.
Always great hanging out with him. And now he is the best, right? He is the best uh something else that's the best it's now time to get to our wendy's can't get enough sauce moment of the week it's where we kind of feature a player right now that we think something on or off the field is just doing something amazing so i have one i know you do too i'm gonna lead off okay i think i have I think I have the one of the winner.
And you got a front row seat at Mr. Quinn Ewers this week.
I did. Obviously a huge game.
Texas gets to win. But what I really found special was after the game, he gets the big dap up from McConaughey.
It went viral. He's up there whispering in his ears, probably going, all right, all right.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm. And then he goes and takes an amazing picture with the young kid who the dad, not the Wendy's.
Oh, dude, come on. I know.
Not the saucy moment of the week, telling the kid to do horns down. But Quinn kept it respectfully, kept his composure.
He still, you know, had a good moment with the kid. He didn't even shoot the dad a dirty look, which I certainly would have did.
And also, Matt, this might be my quarterback I'm scouting for the Giants next year. So that's an easy one for me.
So that's your, okay. I thought you were going to go somewhere else with that.
That's good. Quinn, you're a great kid.
He's a great kid. He's got a chance.
He's got a chance. Mine's better.
I'm just going to say mine's better. And well, first of all, everybody that's watching gonna watch this on youtube here's

my here's my uh there she is you see her her name is caitlin clark okay here's my my my girl okay

the month of september four games she's averaging 26 points per game 10 and a half assists almost

seven rebounds in four games caitlin clark is not just the rookie of the year she will finish

Thank you. half assists, almost seven rebounds in four games.
Caitlin Clark is not just the rookie of the year. She will finish second.
She should finish second in the MVP behind Asia, Asia Wilson. Asia Wilson's the dog.
She's the best. Okay.
Three and one in those four games, just playoff squad. Okay.
I'm a big fan of Caitlin Clark. And this is why I'm where I'm getting at.
And I know she's going to listen to this, and she's going to respond, and maybe we'll get her on the pod. Because two years ago, we went to Iowa for football.
Caitlin Clark and the girls came by the set. We hung out.
She's awesome. Like, became a fan there.
We became tight, somewhat tight. That same weekend, we shot, okay? We had a three-point contest.
It's a true story. There were cameras cameras i'm still waiting to get the video of this the first round you verse her you listen to me real quick this is true and she will back this up the first round it was me reggie and caitlin i think we shot three from each you know each each uh five spots so 15 total i think we got to shot five she whooped us the first round i'm not she wants us the first round not and.
And that was the one where, of course, Fox was videotaping. Then I said, you know, I pride myself in a three-point shooter.
I like to say that my game resembles Chris Mullen of the past. Can't jump, not super athletic, but don't leave me outside the arc.
Is this a lefty thing too? Is that a lefty thing? Yeah, just a lefty thing. Lefty stick together.
I go go, and she and she talked like she's great, right? So I go, I go, I want to rematch. So they stopped filming.
What a rematch. I'm pretty sure I shot, I made 18 of 25.
I can shoot. Okay.
I'm just, I can shoot. Okay.
Or maybe 17, but I went on fire. Okay.
And she was like, okay, okay. I see you.
She gets to the last rack of five. I think she had to make four or five to tie me.
So she was like 14 of 20 going into the last rack. She tied me.
Yeah. No, but she hit the last shot to tie.
She was sweating. I was in her ear.
Oh, you think you had her on the ropes a little bit. Okay, I had her on the ropes.
Now, the point of the story is I didn't win, but I tied the greatest woman shooter of all time in a three-point contest. And I want a rematch.
I want a rematch. And I know she's going to back me on this.
She's going to come on the pod one day.

Okay?

So, you know, shout out to Caitlin Clark.

Shout out to Wendy's.

I'm showing the sign.

I pulled this from a box, right?

I'm a card. I was about to say, is that a pull or did she send that to you as a consolation prize for tying her in a three-point contest?

Oh, gosh.

Hold on to that.

I tied the homie, Caitlin Clark, in a three-point contest.

Claim to fame.

Book it. Your story is you definitely won the week for sure.
And that is our Can't Get Enough Sauce of the Moment week brought to you by Wendy's. Thank you for that.
All right. Something that got a lot of traction from it.
I just got excited about that, by the way. Yeah, and I'm fired up now because something that got a lot of traction in the first episode was you throwing that ridiculous bet to me about the Jets getting to the Super Bowl.
I have to wear a first. It's a 77.
I got calls from back home. Not off to a great start, buddy.
If this was like the mob, we got calls from back home about your guy, Matt. What does he say? You can't wear a 76 jersey.
Hearing you say all that, you seem pretty confident. You don't, we're getting to know each other.
I know you weren't impressed with my boxing abilities. I don't know if Glazer swung you, but I'm pretty confident I could beat you handedly in a three-point contest.
Mind you, you know nothing about me when it comes to physical basketball ability. You know zero.
So let's make a little bet, Mr. Liner.
Are you serious? I'm dead serious. You're dead serious.
Let's make a little bet. Let's figure out.
This don't have to announce it today. This is coming from the guy who stopped playing pickup basketball because, what, he pulled a hammy or he got fouled too hard? What happened? Why did you stop playing pickup? I stopped playing.
I stopped playing pickup because I had a double hip replacement. And by the way, I'm back.
I'm ready to go. I stopped playing pickup because I'm older and I'm even older than you and I don't want to pop my Achilles, which I saw three in like two months.
Yeah, true. So that made me end my pickup basketball.
But as far as shooting, I stay shooting. Dude, I'm going on.
I'm going to find some clip of you shooting, dude. Oh, you want clips? I'll send you clips.
Yeah, send me clips. Overtime made a highlight reel.
Well, let's make a bet. I mean, I would say there's zero chance you beat me in a three-point contest.
Zero. All right.
Well, listen, if you're listening out there, get on the Throwback social media, at Throwback Show. By the way, why don't we let...
Let's get some stakes, because you went right for the juggler with, like, a 76ers, Jets jersey. I'm coming at you just as strong.
Let's see what the guys want. Like, we'll post this up, and we'll start it.
Like, what is, you know, if I win, what does Jerry have to do? If Jerry wins, what do I have to do? I will fly personally to LA, even if it's for 24 hours, and destroy you. We're going to film this, too.
When's the last jump shot you took? What's the last jump shot you took? Dude, I play horse, like, every day. I know you play beach volleyball a lot, and I get that.
Shout out to the Bay Club here. I play horse every time i go to the gym i am i gotta be honest i'm like one of the best horse players of all time too i'm a set shooter dude i'm a set shooter i'm not scared of lefties i'm gonna show up like woody harrelson and white man can't jump and i'm already in your head jerry you're not in my head i'm just here i'll end this part of the show i'm a i'm athlete, dude.
You do not get in my head. There is nothing better.
Listen, we're ending this segment. What are we talking about right now? I want a full week to think of the most savage bet.
Because what you did is unforgivable. You made a savage bet pretty easily in the first week of the show.
No, it's not. Look, the Jets are fine.
They actually moved the ball a little bit. The Niners are just better.
That being said, you went for their juggler bet. So we're going to talk to some people.
I'm going to make this savage. It's to the point where you're going to hear it and go, ooh, that's a little scary.
I don't know if I want to do that. The funny thing is I'm not scared.
Okay, okay. I'm going to send you highlights.
Look for social media. By the way, something's going to be involved in a 76ers jersey.
Guaranteed. Guaranteed.
And now we have people in our great chat already saying that they could be... It's so easy.
I may get you on WFAN wearing a 76ers jersey. Well, we'll talk more about next week, too, because something happened when I did co-host on WFAN where someone called in and called me out for a pickup game moment.
But we don't have enough time for that because, also, I remembered something. The parlor was the sports bar you and Josie went where you had all fans talking trash to you right never i'll never yeah i'll never step foot in that place again you know i've i've been to that sports bar that sports bar gets packed it's a huge space it was i was like i was like a sardine in there yeah there's there's a lot of people in there um but it did also bring up really fast a memory for me that i could not uh I just have to say it.
And I went on a date. I think we were at a restaurant, too, in West Hollywood, came out of the restaurant.
I walked the young lady. It's not my wife.
Don't worry. It's not my wife.
I walked into her car and she took out her phone for something. I don't know.
And she unlocked it. And the first screen, I wasn't looking.
She was holding it casually in front of me, and I saw a screen popped up, and it said her last Google search was Jerry Ferrara net worth. Not a match made.
Oh, dude, that's awful. A, I think she was disappointed by the results, and B, not great to show the dude that.
She's like, gosh, Entourage didn't pay that well back in the day. Yeah, HBO must not really pay that well.
Are we wrapping up? We are wrapping up. I'm pretty into your travel schedule.
Where are you heading this week? We'll be in Madison, Wisconsin. One of my all-time favorite places.
Haven't gone in a couple years. We got Bama traveling to Wisconsin.
Might be be a good game might not be a good game i don't know this the the spread's pretty big but uh it's rad dude jump around plays at the fourth quarter jump around is their thing right it's their thing i've done really cool have you yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna do it i'm gonna do it i'm gonna selfie style video that thing i think i'm gonna try and do that it's a lot of fun i went years ago uh back when russell wilson was still in wisconsin wisconsin nebraska did jump around and then went to this place uh they're like i guess it's like the college bar the kk or the kk club something like that yeah i've heard about that that listen i'm staying i'm staying till sunday madison people from madison i'm going to the KK bar Saturday night are you for real I'm going I got I got the wife in town I got friends in town I'm gonna be one with the college students I don't know it might not end well for me I might step in might step out but I'm gonna go so y'all listeners from Madison you could see me at the KK bar. I heard it's the place to be.
I'm over 40. I get it.
I'm going to watch a little college football at night. I have a couple of drinks, celebrate being on the road with my friends, my wife.
Yeah. What could go wrong? Let me ask you, I've only been to like two campuses in my life.
Obviously SC is like fantastic, but you've been to enough college campuses now. Was there ever that moment where you looked at a campus and went, this looks like a fun place to play football.
I'm happy with where I went, but I could, I could have seen myself here for a couple of years. You know, what's so interesting is like, we, like USC is not, it's not a college town, right? It's just not a college campus town vibe.
I think USC is a beautiful campus in a not so great area, but it's not like a, it's not like a, I've been to all these college towns. It's just not, it's not Madison.
It's not Iowa city. It's not like, it's just not these places.
It's not state college, like our happy Valley, Penn state. It's these places.
And now, granted, when I was there, it was pretty awesome because we were basically Hollywood. We were just running it.
But it wasn't like you're running the show like, oh, this is a college town, like whatever. When I go to these places, I sometimes am like, I never like, oh, I wish I went there.
But I was like, it would have been cool to experience a small town, college town feel that I've never experienced. So that's why I enjoy going to these places.
That's why, like, I went to a TCU bar last year with my wife and friends because I'm like, let's go to old stockyards in Fort Worth. And you experience it.
Like, you know, I'm older. I get it.
But it's fun. Like, I didn't get get to have that in college.
Now I had a much different experience that I would never take back, but, um, that's kind of the vibe of these places, man. So I always enjoy, enjoy going to these cool towns.
Dan Patrick hit us with that awesome question. We were on Dan Patrick show last Friday and he said, the question of the day was better to be in LA as the starting USC quarterback or starring on an HBO show.
I think I even sided with you on that one. I think, I think you win.
I think it's hard. I'll tell you what you're not going to win.
You're not going to win the three point contest. Oh my God.
I can't believe that we're actually going to do that. I need your help.
If you're listening on social media and you can follow us again at throwback show, uh, send me some suggestions on the most savage bet I could make Mr. Liner pay.

Good show today, buddy.

Dude, awesome.

You have fun and be safe.

We're back.

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Take care, everybody.

Peace.