The Champ Is Here!

Speaker 1 Your boy

Speaker 2 the new

Speaker 1 Derek Jeter invitational champs.

Speaker 2 It's got to be one of the greatest feelings Jerry Farrell's ever felt in his entire life. And I'm proud of you, buddy.

Speaker 1 All right, welcome in to another episode of Throwbacks. Maddie Ice.
What up?

Speaker 1 Maddie, New York.

Speaker 2 Maddie, New York.

Speaker 2 What a presentation.

Speaker 2 I'm on location.

Speaker 1 You were just on location.

Speaker 1 I'm in the Bahamas. I am at the thing I talk about probably once a week for the last year to you, Matt.

Speaker 2 I'm at the Derek Jeter.

Speaker 2 We're at the Derek Jeter Invitational. I know.
I've heard it. I get it, dude.
I got to be here.

Speaker 1 I'm finally here. We have a really fun story coming up for it.

Speaker 1 But I was just thinking of something because you had a like hellacious travel back, right? With the boys.

Speaker 1 You and the family went to New York, and it was just one of those marathon, like we may not get home for Christmas.

Speaker 2 You were just stuck.

Speaker 2 So we went to New York this past weekend, and my wife.

Speaker 2 It was, I could talk about it for a long time. It was great, right? We did all the touristy stuff.
We lined it up, F.A.O.

Speaker 2 Schwartz, Rockefeller ice skating, Central Park, Broadway, all of these things. The boys were great.
I would say this, my advice to parents trying to go to New York in December, it is magical.

Speaker 2 It is great.

Speaker 2 Having a four and a five-year-old is the most anxiety and stress that we have had as parents because, like, you talk about home, you get lost. You get lost in New York.
They're

Speaker 2 not going to be able to get the ball.

Speaker 2 Like, you just like, you got to hold their hand every second of the day. So that part was stressful, but my wife created an incredible weekend.
So the travel day, dude.

Speaker 2 So the storm hit like Saturday night. Snow,

Speaker 2 and it was like windy snow, right? It wasn't like, oh, cute little snow. Let's go walk around.
And then Sunday through about 11. So anyway, we get to the airport.
We're flying out about 1.30 Eastern.

Speaker 2 We take off from the gate. Everything is going good.
And then for some reason, you know, like you just, when you know when you sit for like an hour and you get no something's up.

Speaker 1 And you're like,

Speaker 2 is it maintenance? Is it, is it? Something's wrong because we're, we're, we're away from the gate. We're ready.
And basically, like, there a long line for de-icing.

Speaker 2 Flights were getting canceled left and right just throughout the day.

Speaker 2 And then we hit our time limit. We were out there for, we were out there for three hours.

Speaker 2 Once you hit three hours, you have to go back to the gate if you don't take off because it's like, you know, it's a law or something.

Speaker 2 The problem was we didn't have a gate for another two and a half hours.

Speaker 2 We were in the plane for six hours on Sunday.

Speaker 2 By the way, my boys were fantastic. They had their iPads.
They were great. They didn't,

Speaker 2 this is how long we were in a plane for.

Speaker 2 We are literally sitting there and we come back to the gate to get out. And Cannon goes, Daddy, did we land at home? He's like, he's back out.
I was like, bro, buddy,

Speaker 2 we're going to go stay in a hotel in Queens right now.

Speaker 2 And we're going to get up at 3 a.m. to take a shuttle back to the airport for a 6 a.m.
flight and hope we get out. By the way, delayed two more hours on Monday morning to get home.

Speaker 2 So it was like a 36-hour day. It was brutal.
We made it. The boys are great.
I don't handle those situations very well. I got to be honest with you.
I was fine on Sunday.

Speaker 2 Monday, I thought we were going to get hit again because we had maintenance issues on the plane. And when you hear maintenance, it's

Speaker 1 like ready to just let's not do this flight if there's maintenance.

Speaker 2 That was my experience. Great.
Happy to be home.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm glad you made it back. My trip is almost over.
You know, I figure I have a good story to tell, and we always do our NHTSA kind of crossroad moment.

Speaker 1 And it's kind of a crossroad for me, but we're going to basically do this as a full segment. So shout outs to NHTSA.
I want to say we're doing it's

Speaker 1 crossroads presented by NHTSA. The next time you are out drinking, call a ride share, a taxi, a sober friend, designated driver.

Speaker 1 The only decision that will change your world for the better is the decision to call for a sober ride. Drive sober or get pullover.
So Maddie.

Speaker 2 What do you got?

Speaker 1 I did something for the program, for the show.

Speaker 1 I think I did a good thing. So,

Speaker 1 you know, Jeter tournament, turn two foundation. They do wonderful things for a lot of kids coming into their 30th year doing it.
Whole setup.

Speaker 1 And again, if you love baseball, and there's a lot of other athletes there and entertainers, but if you love baseball, especially 90s baseball, forget it.

Speaker 1 It's Ken Griffey Jr., Jeter, Cliff Floyd, Andrew Jones. It's awesome.
Everyone you'd ever want to meet in baseball, specifically from the 90s.

Speaker 1 So after you play your first charity round, a scramble, they do something called the celebrity shootout, right?

Speaker 1 They gather all the celebrities, which are are just Hall of Fame baseball players and a few, you know, actors, and everyone from the tournament, like 200 people, gather around this par three and they hit a shot, and it's closest to the pin, right?

Speaker 1 Like J.R. Smith won it last year.
And I've been daydreaming for years of not even just winning. I'm like, I would love to get a moment.

Speaker 1 I would love to get a whole, like, imagine getting a hole in one and turning around and just staring at Derek Jeter. Yeah.
It'd be awesome.

Speaker 1 But also, you get roasted the entire entire time by Anthony Anderson and Chris Tucker. They are on the mic making fun of you before you hit your shot.
So I'm not excited to hit this shot.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying, like, oh, pick me. I hide in the back.
You know how short I am. I can't see over anyone.
I was standing behind Cece Sabathia.

Speaker 2 Can't

Speaker 1 so now before me,

Speaker 1 Anthony Mackey gets up. Captain America, bro, gets up to the T.

Speaker 1 And please follow along. We'll post this on throwbacks.
You know, Anthony's in good shape. Jack dude, a lot of swing speed.
He hits a shank

Speaker 1 so bad.

Speaker 1 And there's camera shots where it doesn't just like wizard people. It crosses in front of someone's eyes.
It was like a warning headshot.

Speaker 1 And if it would have hit this person, that would have been a really, really bad day.

Speaker 1 They're all going to move everyone to the left or back. I know you've hit someone, right?

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. On live TV.
Fine, though. But mine was like 130 out.
I overshot the the green. I just hit a kid right in the thigh.
It's like a bouncer, right? Or a full-size.

Speaker 2 No, I hit it right in the thigh. Was the bullet or was it? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Not off the T.

Speaker 1 Thank God. And then, okay, so I watch that.
And then that's implanted in my brain. And now I'm really getting nervous.
And I'm at my crossroad. And then a few people go, and then Ja Rule gets up.

Speaker 1 Ja Rule is the musical performance for the show later on. And I think Ja just started playing golf.
Yeah, he's going to be. And this one, I want to talk about the word viral.
This one is everywhere.

Speaker 1 You've probably seen it if you're listening or watching. If not, look it up.

Speaker 1 He hits a shank that thankfully was not going as fast as Anthony Mackey's.

Speaker 2 And it hits him backwards almost.

Speaker 1 It was completely vertical. It was completely vertical.

Speaker 1 Four-camera dude, who probably thought no one's going to hit me here, gets drilled right in the arm. Fortunately, he's okay.
And Jaw was a good sport about it and all that.

Speaker 1 So now I'm just like, I got to get, let's just get this thing over with. And they call my name.
Where's Jerry? And Anthony Anderson starts making fun of me right away.

Speaker 1 Nick Swisher's yelling at me that I like work out with my wife, making fun of me. All these guys are like, all right, 145 yards, little downwind.
Your boy's got a nine-iron.

Speaker 1 And I did have to back off twice because Chris Tucker was just clowning me. But then I just got up there.
I essentially closed my eyes, swung, and I hit it to about 11 feet, right? Everyone goes nuts.

Speaker 2 Good shot. That's a good shot.

Speaker 1 But then I got to sweat out. Next on the T,

Speaker 1 Michelle We.

Speaker 2 I'm like, what?

Speaker 1 All right. The dream's over.
That was fun while it lasted. She kind of hits it short.
I had to sweat through Michelle Wee, Tino Martinez, Nick Swisher, Cece Sabathia. And then I think it's fine.

Speaker 1 Connolly gets it. Connolly hit right after Ja Rule.
Finally gets like, I think it's done.

Speaker 1 And then Chris Young, last player to hit. Chris is a stick, bro.
I'm like, oh, he hits it to like 12 and a half feet. And your boy

Speaker 2 is the new.

Speaker 2 Yeah, dog.

Speaker 1 Derek Jeter, invitational champ. It's all about the best.

Speaker 2 And let me just say, it's all.

Speaker 1 This is one of the greatest things I've ever accomplished in my life. I know, bro.

Speaker 2 I know. Trust me.
It's standing in front of all of those Hall of Famers, Derek Jeter, the captain, famous actors, comedians, and just to stripe one 10 feet to the pin.

Speaker 2 Bro, it's got to be the great outside, outside of a hole in one, it's got to be one of the greatest feelings jerry frowers ever ever felt in his entire life well i'm proud of you buddy i'm proud of you i got the classic jeter like the you know when you used to make like a big play or something

Speaker 1 i got the classic jeter thing now everyone starts calling me champ everywhere i'm going charles oakley what's up champ you walked into dinner you walked into dinner that night with your head

Speaker 2 made me bring the belt to the jaw rule before yeah

Speaker 1 so now i'm going full heel next year i'm gonna fly back with this belt and and I'm going to walk in.

Speaker 2 You're defending champ bro.

Speaker 1 I'm going to walk in like Ric Flair, bro. Sunglasses.

Speaker 1 I might even take my shirt off. So that was my crossroad.
It's one of the greatest things that ever happened to me. Shout out to Nitza.

Speaker 1 Thank you for telling, for letting me tell that story through this segment.

Speaker 2 There's nothing better than sticking a great golf shot,

Speaker 2 even if you're just playing with your boys. But when you're doing it in front of an audience, especially like that against, you know, players you watch growing up, Yankees, like, like, and and to not,

Speaker 2 dude, I'm telling you, I get goosebumps.

Speaker 2 I, because I can, I can, I've been in that situation, not, I didn't, I didn't hit a ball nearly as good as you, but I've been in that situation, the feeling of everybody watching you and just like, don't mess this up, don't mess this up, but then to just nut it right there, dude.

Speaker 1 Proud of that. The only other thing that could have made this horribly wrong was once it was like, oh, I won.

Speaker 2 Beat out Michelle Weed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but she's awesome.

Speaker 1 Once it was like, okay, I won it. I'm sort of starting to walk out out to get the belt.

Speaker 1 And Connolly, who was more jacked up than me, bro, he takes a running star and pushes me from behind to get out there. And I almost face planted.

Speaker 2 Like I had to catch my balance.

Speaker 1 He pushed me so, it's on video. He pushed me so hard.
My neck whipped back. Like he would have ruined my moment because I would have just face planted on the ship.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you would have hurt your back for sure.

Speaker 1 But man, the jaw rule thing, you got to wonder. You probably got to think 50 Cent's going to want to weigh in

Speaker 2 on that shot right i mean

Speaker 2 at some point i just think next year jeter's just gonna have you get you gotta you gotta like you could literally kill somebody doing that dude like you could literally kill them so you gotta you gotta eliminate the the the the people on the side put everyone in the back or wear some type of helmet

Speaker 1 most nerve-wracking for sure but i still say

Speaker 1 the the sickest thing and i actually told this story to jeter and connolly the sickest thing i ever seen anyone do is you play in that hockey game without, without being like, yeah, I played hockey for like 10 years as a kid.

Speaker 1 That's still the sick, that's the sicko thing of the year I've ever seen anyone do.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that took a lot of balls. And the whole time.
Looking back, it took a lot of balls. Yeah.
The whole time. I just remember, I just started.
I just remember sitting back there.

Speaker 2 And by the way, I'm like 6'9 and skates, dude. So like, it's like easy.
Yeah. I'm sitting back there.
I'm just like, and I skate like, I'm like, I can skate okay.

Speaker 2 Like I can hold my own skating, right? Sure.

Speaker 2 I'm playing against Theo Fleury, Mark Messier, and PK Soupin were on the line in front of me. I was like, Theo Fleury, I grew up watching when he played for the Calgary Flames.

Speaker 2 Mark Messier is top two or three players of all time. PK Soupin's one of the greatest defensemen of all time and still young.
I'm like, what am I doing out here, dude?

Speaker 1 It's like one where it's like, did your team not tell you, hey, Matt, maybe you shouldn't do skater.

Speaker 2 Well, I was not the worst skater on my team. It was, it was, gosh, I can't remember his name.
He was the worst skate.

Speaker 1 he was way worse than me so that that got me through it because i'm like oh i'm not that bad i'm actually like well i look okay they all trolled me the whole time too because you got the invite to the jeter hopefully you can make it next year but they were like where's where's liner we invited him i'm like oh he couldn't come this year and they're like oh we really could have used him this year the whole time i was like we really could have used math to here this year like they were pretending like they were super let down so you have to come next year could have used me for what i don't know i think they were just trying to they need some football presence there they do need a little football presence there so but i'm a bad man I'm a baseball player at heart.

Speaker 2 So, that would have been I love that. Are you kidding me? I love all those guys.
I grew up watching all those guys.

Speaker 1 I mean, my defining moment because I'm a 90s Yankees kid. My opening practice round was me and Connolly paired with Tino Martinez and Bernie freaking Williams, bro.

Speaker 2 And if you that's like Yankee porn, if you're a 90s Yankees kid, that's straight up Tino Martinez. They're both, I mean, they're both fantastic.

Speaker 1 Breakfast might be the most important choice you make all day. That's because at Wendy's two for $3 breakfast, you could mix and match your very own perfect pairing of our delicious morning favorites.

Speaker 2 With this breakfast deal, the choice is all yours. It's not someone else's.
And isn't that how it should be? It's your breakfast after all, not Martha's. She can pick her own breakfast.

Speaker 2 This one's all you.

Speaker 1 No matter what you choose from our sausage biscuit with that grilled breakfast sausage or the egg and cheese biscuit with that fresh cracked gray egg and melty American cheese on a fluffy buttermilk biscuit a small size of perfectly seasoned potatoes or a medium hot coffee to power through the morning all you got to do is pick your ideal morning pair you really can't lose because you're the one calling the shots the choice is all yours wake up to wendy's two for three dollar breakfast just the way you want it limited time only during breakfast hours u.s price and participation may vary no substitutions not valid in a combo single item at regular price you know those days where you start with just a couple of friends and maybe a backyard grill going and before you know it, you've got the whole crew there, music playing and the game on?

Speaker 1 That's a twisted tea day.

Speaker 3 Twisted tea is a real brewed iced tea, but with a kick, 5% alcohol. So it actually tastes like the tea you love, just a little bit more fun.

Speaker 3 It's full of flavor, super refreshing and smooth because there's no carbonation. That means you can sip it all day while the good times keep rolling.

Speaker 3 And if you've ever had twisted tea at a tailgate, guys, it is a game changer.

Speaker 3 There's no heavy bloated feeling just cold smooth refreshment that pairs perfectly with burgers brats and the pregame buzz in the air from the first parking lot toast to the last whistle twisted tea keeps the energy up without slowing you down so this weekend keep it smooth keep it flavorful keep it twisted grab a refreshing twisted tea today

Speaker 2 shopping is hard right but i found a better way stitch fix online personal styling makes it easy I just give my stylist my size, style, and budget preferences.

Speaker 2 I order boxes when I want and how I want. No subscription required.
And he sends just for me pieces, plus outfit recommendations and styling tips. I keep what works and send back the rest.

Speaker 2 It's so easy. Make style easy.
Get started today at stitchfix.com slash spotify. That's stitchfix.com slash spotify.

Speaker 1 Maddie, we're going to do...

Speaker 1 We're going to do a little Christmas kind of lightning round stuff.

Speaker 1 And then we're going to hit our Wendy stuff before. And then we got Annie Agar, of course, joining us for some twisted trivia.
Maybe we could argue some more about who gets their answers in quicker.

Speaker 1 So I have a few Christmassy things. Tis the season.
I'm a firm believer, and you want to talk about Christmas like the week before, because next week we're all just going to be living the shit.

Speaker 1 So let's talk about it now. So I guess my first

Speaker 1 sort of question to you, because this is something I get into with a lot of people, you know, we're grownups at this point.

Speaker 1 What other adults in your life get Christmas presents at this juncture, this stage of life?

Speaker 2 My dad.

Speaker 1 Your dad?

Speaker 2 That's it. I feel like I don't have very many left with him.
So I'm like, Pop, what do you want? He wanted a, he wanted a, and he's going to listen to this. He already knows.

Speaker 2 He wanted a custom pool stick because he loves playing pool. So I was like,

Speaker 2 I'm going to get you a pool stick. What do you want? You want your name engraved on it? What do you want? Dodgers colors? He's like, no, just give me, just give me an

Speaker 2 pool stick.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think, I think it gets, I don't know when when that stopped i mean other than like my wife and i aren't doing gifts for each other this year we kind of just said hey let's not let's take a little trip because we need a trip by ourselves um let's take a little trip after the holiday like a little weekender up to you know like napa or wine country or just like go relax um but like it the the it hasn't

Speaker 2 I don't, I'm a bit, I'm a bit, I get so much free swag, dude. So I just, I'll just stuff a bunch of bags with like the hoodies.

Speaker 1 Re-gifter?

Speaker 2 And I just re-gift, dude. Or Or I just give it to people because they like it.
They appreciate it. But

Speaker 2 yeah, dude, we don't really do that.

Speaker 1 Like, when do you and your brother stop? Like I early on, like 18 years old, and I used to get my brother like

Speaker 2 you or something.

Speaker 1 But like at some point, I just looked him in the face and I said, I'm not a good gift giver.

Speaker 2 I like giving gifts. I'm not.

Speaker 1 Like, just tell me what you want. I don't want to guess and get you something that you don't want at all.
I'd rather get you something you want. And at some point, I remember being like 19 years old.

Speaker 1 I'm like, Anthony, I'm not getting you any birthday gifts or Christmas gifts. It's over.
If there's something I see that I think you should have, I'll get it for whatever. It's over.

Speaker 1 I don't need this pressure.

Speaker 2 So, you know, you know what the problem has become? And

Speaker 2 is

Speaker 2 as your family, like family, and I don't know if, I don't know if, like, I know you guys have your crew in Cleveland and there's a lot of kids because you always see that.

Speaker 2 But like, it has become now that we give gifts to all our friends' kids because

Speaker 1 that extension.

Speaker 2 Like yeah, it's an extension. And I'm like, and I'm like, when did we start giving presents to all our best friends, 19 kids they have? Yeah.

Speaker 2 They all, like, there's 47 kids and like we have to give like all my nieces and nephews, which again, it's fine. All my nieces and nephews get a gift.
Our best friends' kids get a gift.

Speaker 2 This adds up to like 15 or 20 gifts we're giving to the kids now. And again, Christmas is all about that.
But I'm like, when did we go into like the the friend circle of giving each other gifts?

Speaker 2 Can't we just hang out? Like, what, like, let's go hang out on Christmas Day, go to the park. Let's like, you know, play in the backyard.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 I mean, I know Bree will always send me these like Instagram reels about like, here's like who the dad shops for. And it's like, wife, and then here's who the mom shops for, kids, dad, like, true.

Speaker 1 But I just wouldn't get everybody.

Speaker 1 It's not that I don't want to do that, but I think you go too far. I always send back.
I'm like, well, stop getting everyone gifts and see what happens.

Speaker 2 I had this conversation with the wife this week. Someone told her that they give, you know, you give the kids' teacher a present, like a little gift card.

Speaker 2 Yes. Okay, that's and which is great.
Yes. Tradition, it's been around forever and they deserve it.
But now

Speaker 2 we're giving the PE teacher, the music teacher.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're branching out to the librarian.

Speaker 2 Yeah. The front desk, everybody.
And I'm like,

Speaker 2 I'm like, where? And again, I feel bad saying that because, like, everyone is great, but like, at what point does it end? Like, where do you stop?

Speaker 1 I don't know. You might keep going.
At some point, there's going to be a scholarship in your name at this school.

Speaker 2 What are we doing? What is

Speaker 2 the worst Christmas tradition

Speaker 2 that you are a part of that you maybe grew up having? Maybe do it now for the Ferrara family?

Speaker 1 Well, you know, I I grew up Italian Catholic, right? So for me, I'll go back to childhood and I think we both probably have the same as an adult and I'll clear the floor for you on that one.

Speaker 1 But childhood growing up, you know, and this is more like a religious thing. So I'm not trying to hate on the religious aspect, but you do the feast of the seven seas, right?

Speaker 1 It's this big giant fish salad that is like. Oh, it's calamari, it's squid, it's all it, dude.
It's, it's, it's, that's great. And like my grandparent,

Speaker 1 my mom,

Speaker 1 they love it. And it's, it's not just a tiny bit.

Speaker 2 You just get a fucking spaghetti.

Speaker 1 The Italians go, then they have the fish sauce after that. And

Speaker 1 my brother and I, we don't eat fish at all, like no form of fish, cooked, uncooked, nothing. So,

Speaker 1 you know. Everyone thinks like Christmas, oh, all the food.

Speaker 1 For my brother and I, like my Aunt Celeste who would host, would always make me like some mozzarella sticks and like chicken, a little chicken palm.

Speaker 1 She'd like to order out separate because there would just be this giant bowl of every kind of thing from the sea you could ever see so for me i know there's religious things behind it so i'm not saying like i hate no i get it get rid of it but that was always my hardest uh worst part of christmas i can't even have a like if i like sand i like fish like i can eat fish like in a nice dinner if if any

Speaker 2 food from the sea touches my salad or touches another food item on my plate, I won't.

Speaker 2 My wife is like, What the fuck is wrong with you? If salmon, like a cooked nice salmon, is just on my bed of lettuce, I can't eat the lettuce.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's disgusting.

Speaker 2 I can't even like one time, makes me want to gag, dude.

Speaker 1 One time, breeze.

Speaker 2 So that's your restaurant.

Speaker 1 And she was, she wanted me to taste

Speaker 1 this like

Speaker 1 artichoke dip thing or whatever. So she put her fork in there and handed it to me.
And I'm like, you just had that in your salmon. I'm not eating off your fork.

Speaker 2 I wouldn't even eat off our fork.

Speaker 1 You'd have to say because she had some. What is what's yours? You You could do present day or back in the day.

Speaker 2 We didn't have a lot of Christmas traditions back in the day. Like we had, you know, we had the family would come in, stay at our little house, which is awesome.
Like looking back.

Speaker 2 I mean, you and I are going to agree on this because we've talked about it, but the elf on the shelf.

Speaker 1 I talk about too much. Where does it end?

Speaker 2 When? Did this fucking little guy become a part of our lives? Like, when? When did this start?

Speaker 1 I didn't have this as a a kid, did you?

Speaker 2 I didn't have it either. Now, I do want to say this.
I do want to say this before I start talking shit on the elf, because

Speaker 2 it has, Christmas is magical for the kids, right? That's what you try and make. And Josie does a great job because she tries to make everything grand and magical and the memories.
And I love it.

Speaker 2 It's the best part about Christmas in the month of this month. But the elf on the shelf, it's like, and the kids wake up now every morning.
Oh, by the way, dude, Ziggy, or Elf came to New York, bro.

Speaker 2 Came to New York.

Speaker 1 He brought him on the plane. Ziggy was up.

Speaker 2 Ziggy was sitting on the guitar max.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Ziggy flew. Yeah, Ziggy.

Speaker 2 Ziggy was chilling down in the fucking, down in the under the plane.

Speaker 1 So what do you do? You have to put him in like a glass jar, right?

Speaker 2 Or something.

Speaker 1 You can't touch him to ruin the Christmas magic.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no.

Speaker 2 Listen, it's just a lot.

Speaker 2 It's just adds another layer to the magic of Christmas. And I love that because the kids get excited.

Speaker 2 And that's that's really what it's all about it's not about me it's not about my wife but i just don't know at what point this little keebler elf became a huge part of our life i'm i'm genuinely now you send me you always send me these dms on instagram and i there's some real creative out there dude like some of these people go all in which i love seeing that's just not us and again i don't need i don't even i don't do the elf so i got into it last year because we've only been you know my kids are young so we we don't, I think we only did, we did it for the first time last year.

Speaker 1 And, you know, great inspiration from TikTok and Instagram. But I guess my biggest, first of all, you're just straight up lying to your kids, like bottom line.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 And you're just, yeah.

Speaker 1 When you start doing the, have you ever done the elf threat?

Speaker 2 No, we're pretty much

Speaker 1 watching.

Speaker 2 We pretty much lie to our kids about everything, though.

Speaker 1 Reggie, yeah, but have you ever done the elf threat? Like, James, stop that. The chippy's watching.

Speaker 2 Like, have you ever heard that? Like, he's like some bouncer at a club. Jerry, we, we, we lie to our kids every day of their lives.

Speaker 2 We threaten them with we threaten, you're not gonna get a treat later. Like, really? Okay.

Speaker 2 You need to go to your room or else you're not gonna be able to watch TV.

Speaker 1 And we both know you're gonna watch TV.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and Casey, by the way, my six-year-old, who's like

Speaker 2 Bobby Boucher from freaking Waterboy, looks at me and he just looks at me with like, like he, like, he, my son is this. This is my son, really quick.

Speaker 2 He is the, he is the kid, and he will be my teenager teenager that would be like if i threaten him or like you know i'm like hey son or if i'm like hard on him like you want to spanking or whatever he will look at me and he'll be like do it dad do it i want to do it i want to feel it that's him dude oh you saw you saw a little glimpse of him dude but that's him he loves pain He loves it.

Speaker 2 He was walking in New York at some point this weekend, dude, and he just starts going like that. He just starts, he just starts like, like, yeah, like hitting his head.

Speaker 2 Like he's getting ready to like tackle a freaking running back in a game. I'm like, I look at Josie.
I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with him?

Speaker 1 Well, I did see it in my, with my own eyes when our four boys are on the beat. Now, my kids were a little shell shocked by yours in a sense, like

Speaker 1 they're physical, they wrestle, but like Case, you know, he's so much bigger and stronger. At one point, all three kids are beating the shit.

Speaker 1 out of case and i walk over boys part of his day i was like boys come on let's break it up and caseon's like, they're fine.

Speaker 2 Oh, dude.

Speaker 2 He loves it. He loves pain, dude.

Speaker 2 It's honestly, it's awesome because I just, I'll never question his toughness.

Speaker 1 Well, some, some people might say, oh, you got a football play. You might have either like a UFC kid or maybe not going to have a UFC kid.

Speaker 2 Definitely not going to have a UFC kid because here's another funny story. We put him in Taekwondo or no, Jiu-Jitsu, which is great for these kids.
I don't know if the boys ever got apart, but like

Speaker 2 there's some great places right here,

Speaker 2 like the the the greaties yeah yeah it's it's literally five minutes away yeah um and we tried it and caseen is big and strong and tough and care but he's not a fighter he's not a he'd rather take it like he likes football he likes that stuff but like this little girl was in there and you know they get paired up this was he was four and and and he's so big they get paired up and this little girl is just working the holds and all this and he's just sitting there and like standing there like like what do i do dad and the instructor was like no, you can like push her back.

Speaker 2 Like, like, you know, you do all this stuff, like grapple and all these things. And he just, he doesn't have that instinct.

Speaker 2 If like, if someone hits him at school, he's going to, he, he's, he might cry.

Speaker 2 He's going to, he's not going to care, but he's not, he'll probably just go tell the teacher instead of my, our rule, obviously, our rule is like, if someone ever approaches you, put hands on you, you have our permission to, you have our permission to hit them back always.

Speaker 2 Cannon will do that in a heartbeat. He'll actually start it.
He's going to be the instigator. But anyway, no.
So yeah, he's not uh, he's not going to be in the UFC, but he's going to be.

Speaker 2 I told, I told Josie this weekend, I said, babe, I'm sorry, but we are going to have, we're going to have a linebacker. He also is a catcher in baseball, he's just tough, dude.

Speaker 2 He just like he loves that shit, man.

Speaker 1 It's fucking hilarious. Well, maybe that's why he doesn't fight back because he knows, like, uh, I could probably hurt this kid right now.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he has these outbursts where it's like kind of scary. Like, yeah, we're like, oh, God, I don't want to get hit by that fist.
And he's only five.

Speaker 1 Well, I was going to put this one too on my worst tradition list, but you know, I have another way of working this in. But for me, is there shopping easier or worse with Amazon and all that stuff?

Speaker 1 Like, I'm very clear on this.

Speaker 2 It's, well, here's the thing. It's definitely easier.
It's definitely easier.

Speaker 2 Now you got to do all the boxes.

Speaker 2 There is something about that I miss.

Speaker 2 And it's kind of like the whole thing of like, you miss kind of going to the movie theater to go watch a movie, movie right the popcorn the coke like to sit in the theater and go out right that was like a rite of passage like whatever i took my boys to the mall the other day just say like because i wanted i wanted to walk the mall dude i don't even i think i bought a couple things but like i wanted to actually go shopping for christmas so like it's definitely easier and we do it 95 of the time but there's something about like back in the day like meeting your boys or going hey i want to go get perfume smack

Speaker 2 yeah going to get my girlfriend like a cubic seconio freaking necklace from Claire's or some shit.

Speaker 2 Like going into the mall and go shop for it, like, like, you know, you accomplished something, you got you're productive, you got out.

Speaker 2 I do miss that, so I do do that every once in a while, but I mean, yeah, dude, it's easier.

Speaker 1 Oh, but that's kind of one of my worst. Like, I loved going to the mall as a kid, like Staten Island Mall.
I used to go and like see Wu-Tang.

Speaker 2 Mall was a hang, bro.

Speaker 1 It was incredible, but I did not like going to get a gift for the girlfriend at like teenage years. Like I, I just like, I don't know.
I have no idea what to get you. And like jewelry,

Speaker 1 I think every girlfriend when I was like a teenager and even like early 20s has probably returned any gift I've ever gotten them because it was just, I'm never going to, or just has never worn it or done anything.

Speaker 1 Took years for me to

Speaker 1 get good at that. So I miss them all, but I don't miss going to buy a gift for like some teenage girl I didn't even know.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, I agree. Okay.

Speaker 1 Do you remember well

Speaker 2 no you got i'm gonna say do you get are you getting uh do you get the wife gifts this year

Speaker 1 we always say

Speaker 1 let's not let's focus on the kids and similarly like let's take a trip or like a good date like let's make them let's have an experience instead of uh material that's what it's all about but um i i think i think sorry i think

Speaker 2 life is more like i i see all these things pop up and i think this is great for parents to hear and like we get you know we get the toys toys and all that stuff, but, but creating experiences, like my wife created this weekend.

Speaker 2 It was fantastic. And it's a lot, right? But when you create the experiences, those are things that your kids will remember forever.
They will remember the ice skating at Rockefeller.

Speaker 2 They will remember the late night ice cream at, you know, serendipity. They will remember Central Harvard

Speaker 2 where Josie stood in line for two hours in the freezing cold just to get to be 10th in line.

Speaker 1 That's some mom shit right there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It was, yeah, it was, it was just goat shit, right? And so like, that, that's the thing.

Speaker 2 It's like, no, you got to get the toys and all that, but that's what life should be about for the kids because they'll remember it, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like, I remember the first,

Speaker 1 the first gift I ever got Brie, like when we were dating for like a year or two, I think I got, I got her Chicago ones. I got her Jordans, Chicago ones.

Speaker 1 I got her grape fives because she was in like a Jordan kick for a minute. And I got her lingerie.
I literally got her sneakers and lingerie.

Speaker 2 Lingerie?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, this is, this is 15 years ago, buddy.

Speaker 2 What type of lingerie?

Speaker 2 I went into that store.

Speaker 1 There's a store in LA.

Speaker 1 I guess it's still there. I don't know if people go to the secret.
Agent Provocateur, right? And I walk into this place and I don't know what got into me because she didn't ask for lingerie.

Speaker 1 And I'm not that kind of guy. Like, I got you some sexy lingerie.
It's not what I do, bro. But I guess I was trying to impress early on that, like...

Speaker 1 whatever. I walk into the store and there's like these three really attractive women.
They're like, hi, and there's lingerie everywhere.

Speaker 1 And immediately I walk in and I'm just like, hey, I get something for my girlfriend. They're like, obviously, would you like some scotch?

Speaker 2 You were like nervous being in there.

Speaker 1 They pour me a glass of scotch in the store the moment I walked in and I chug it. I think they know dudes walk in and are insanely intimidated and nervous.

Speaker 1 They basically got me drunk and I just bought a bunch of lingerie that she ended up liking. But good for you.
I worked for years with like being a terrible gift giver.

Speaker 1 Now, Matt, if she mentions something in passing and hopefully she's not listening, but even in like July, if she's like, oh, you know, I really need

Speaker 1 a new pair of on clouds, but I go buy it and I hire

Speaker 1 because I won't remember. I won't, I won't be like, oh, this is my Christmas shopping week.
I won't, I just buy it and I put it away. And then I just got to remember that I bought it for her.

Speaker 1 So hopefully she's not listening.

Speaker 2 What is so? The your word, the word elf on the shelf, I know we both agree. Do you have another tradition that you guys fish salad was the worst?

Speaker 1 And for me, it was, I was putting in like buying

Speaker 1 and also like the real tree stuff like i'll get back to putting up a real tree one day when the boys could yeah when the boys get to help

Speaker 1 oh i married a girl from the midwest you know she wanted me yeah you go cut the tree down like paul bunyan physically cut the tree down like i never i never cut a tree i've never even cut wood really before i failed wood shop what are you what are we doing dude you you were you were yeah you were smoking weed at 18.

Speaker 1 you weren't freaking you weren't you weren't cutting in brooklyn you would go buy a christmas tree in like a parking lot on the corner. Like, you're going to buy weed.

Speaker 1 You'd go get see the tree guy, and you'd walk home with a little Christmas tree. That's how you bought a Christmas tree back in the day.
So, that was it for me on that.

Speaker 1 All right, we'll send a few more, and then we're going to do our Wendy's read because I'm pretty excited for the Wendy's, but what we're going to discuss on that.

Speaker 1 Christmas

Speaker 1 officially the best sports day of the year. Has it hit best, or is it working its way up? Because now we got a full NFL slate.
Yeah. And obviously the NBA is owing Christmas forever.
And I think maybe

Speaker 1 they're both kind of staring at each other like, who-oh, can we share this day?

Speaker 2 I'm trying to think here. So we have

Speaker 2 Cowboys, Commanders, Lions, Vikings, Broncos, Chiefs.

Speaker 2 Not really great games.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs not being in it. It hurts the slate for sure.

Speaker 2 Lions, Vikings is

Speaker 2 meaningful. I think the Vikings are still technically in at this point.
And they want McCarthy just to play well. Well, I think it's a momentum.

Speaker 2 When you think of sports on holidays, like Thanksgiving, it's really just Thanksgiving, right? It's like people love Thanksgiving because you get football all day. You just get to lay around.

Speaker 2 It's like a, it's an easy, you're just lazy, right? It's an excuse to be like, Christmas is such a great day because you had NBA basketball. You just throw some games on in the background.

Speaker 2 Usually it's one of our teams, right? Lakers or someone

Speaker 2 or a big market, right? Like you always had a good game on.

Speaker 2 But now with the success of football last year on Netflix, like that was, remember, that was a big thing. It's like, is this shit going to crash? Is it going to crash? Because everybody's watching it.

Speaker 2 It was amazing. Like, it was great.
And so, like, then there's like, well, football surpassed. It doesn't matter.
Both can coexist on that day. It's the,

Speaker 2 as far as like

Speaker 2 the greatest sports day, like, there's, there's events and all that, but like, I, it's got to be up there, dude, is top two or three. I'm trying to think of like you got like sports equinox, right?

Speaker 2 When you got like Super Bowl Sunday, sometimes Super Bowl Sunday is a great day, right? Like it's one game, but it's a great day.

Speaker 2 It's like you have a party, you're laying on your couch, or you're like, it's just an excuse to be lazy and not move.

Speaker 2 But man, Christmas with the kids playing to the toys in the background, you're having a nice glass of wine or a couple beers, and you're fucking watching a little NFL, and you switch over to the NBA, and you watch your Knicks take down somebody sticking thumbs and asses and shit.

Speaker 2 Like, like you can like, I'm sorry, you know, I just came out.

Speaker 2 Yeah, dude, I think it surpasses the best sporting, sport watching day of the year.

Speaker 1 One of my best traditions that I used to have long before kids and before Brie to a degree, I'd always go LA to New York for Christmas. I only spent one Christmas in L.A.
I had no family out there.

Speaker 1 So I always said, I'm always going home to New York for Christmas. Christmas Eve, like are you a Christmas Eve family back in the day or Christmas Day family?

Speaker 1 We were Christmas Eve because Christmas Day, All my cousins on my mom's side would then go to their dad's. My mom had sisters.
We go to their dad's side.

Speaker 1 My dad had passed, so Christmas Day was kind of just like a wash.

Speaker 2 We didn't really do much.

Speaker 1 So once I, in the entourage years, and I started going to a lot of the bad Knicks games, Knicks always play on Christmas. So I'd always fly home for Christmas Eve.

Speaker 1 And then Christmas Day, I went to six years in a row where I went to the Knicks game on Christmas Day. And I will say, Matt, I know regular season basketball, we may discuss that in a second.

Speaker 1 A Christmas Day game is, there is a, being there is an added special element everyone's so happy to be there and like everyone's on a Christmas break and there's no school and maybe there's no work for a lot of people so it's a really cool environment to go to an NBA Christmas game I gotta say I think we've we're a we're a Christmas Day family I mean Eve is nice we're kind of mix and match like growing up we went to church on Christmas Eve

Speaker 2 Again, all my relatives that would fly in across the country would stay with us. And then Christmas Day was just the day.

Speaker 2 With the kids now, like we do Christmas morning home and then we kind of rotate amongst the families around like, oh, go to my cousins or my brothers or something.

Speaker 2 So I think we're hosting this year. So we'll have a full day of Christmas, which is fun.
So they come over, we play games, watch that. The kids play in the backyard.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I like Eve because we've

Speaker 2 last couple of years, we've gone to friends' houses locally here. And that's the best thing about where we live.
It's just everything is just so like a small community. So he's like, let's go.

Speaker 2 There's parties.

Speaker 1 You can still go outside, yeah, and you can still go outside.

Speaker 1 So, um, but Christmas, have you ever had the game fall on Christmas day at like college or no, well, not college, you would have been done, but uh,

Speaker 1 any NFL games ever fall on Christmas Eve or Christmas?

Speaker 2 I played on Thanksgiving Even Thanksgiving, right? Yeah, a couple times in Houston. Um, never on Christmas.

Speaker 2 The thing is, when I was in college, we were always in bowl season and we were always like getting ready. So, like, I never really had a Christmas,

Speaker 2 I didn't have like a traditional Christmas like you have growing up. Obviously, you're in college.
Like I never, oh, I'm going back home for Christmas.

Speaker 2 No, like I was fucking practicing, you know, or I was getting ready for the Rose Bowl, like, or the national championship was always that week.

Speaker 2 So we would always leave like right after Christmas or the day before because you're out in the place for about a week. So

Speaker 2 it is, it is special, though, dude. Christmas is, I think it's my favorite holiday for sure because of just, especially having little kids.
I think it's, it's, uh, it's right up there.

Speaker 2 I'm a big Halloween person, too. I know some people aren't, but yeah.

Speaker 1 But man, let me tell you, there was nothing better than being a kid and getting that video game you were hoping you would get. And then you're off for like seven days from school.
Your boys come over.

Speaker 1 All I do now, literally half of my Instagram show, I just watch NHL 94 clips on Instagram.

Speaker 2 I'm the greatest. Oh, on the Mount Rushmore video games.

Speaker 2 Not to get like all serious and sentimental. No, let's do it.
Let's do it. But you know, Christmas.

Speaker 2 And so, like, for you and I, we're in a, we're in a position where like, you know, like our families, like you work hard, you have a nice home, you can get them like pretty much what they, anything.

Speaker 2 Very fortunate. Yeah.
Very fortunate. Right.

Speaker 2 But when you look back and you get that Nintendo 64 or you get that Sega Genesis or you get whatever it was, like like the Xbox was a big one. I think I was like, as a teenager, right?

Speaker 2 And like we didn't, we grew up very middle class, like just like whatever.

Speaker 2 And wondering how my mom and dad, like thinking they had to save up probably or like budget it right you have to budget those things because like dude the xbox was a couple hundred bucks back then is a lot of money man like so that always like makes me feel like why i love christmas because of all of like how we grew up right when you grow up with no money and you grow up like like all those things like you just appreciate that so it makes you think like that's why like i that's why i'm all about the experiences and creating the the core memories around the holidays you just you just brought up a memory that for me, that I, I could literally cry telling this story, right?

Speaker 1 But we grew up similar. If anything, we were maybe like

Speaker 1 lower to middle class. Like my mom was a school crossing guard.
She worked her ass off. Single mom, right? We, like, we had food, we had shelter, we had clothes.

Speaker 1 We, but, you know, I wasn't walking around in Jordans and I didn't have a car waiting for me when I turned 18 and all that stuff. So I think I was probably like 13, 14.
Talk about a throwback.

Speaker 1 This is like starter jackets are at their height now at this point, right?

Speaker 1 Their height to the point now where we had like the OG, like Raiders zip up and all that, and now we're into the pullover cute quarter zip one, right?

Speaker 1 And I love, I still say to this day, no, no sport has done expansion better than hockey, like the sharks, the lightning, the sharks back in the day, the sharks, yeah, just ridiculous.

Speaker 1 So, I wanted, I remember going to like the sporting goods store, and they had the starter section. This is like in November, and it was my birthday in November.

Speaker 1 I'm like, mom, I really want that San Jose Sharks pullover.

Speaker 2 Like, it's all I want.

Speaker 1 Back in the day, it didn't matter. You're a Ranger fan.
You could wear the shark shit because it was dope.

Speaker 2 Because you just looked cool.

Speaker 1 Mom, that's all I want. It could be my birthday and my Christmas present.
She's like, Jerry, I'm sorry. Like, we truly can't afford it.
It's like a $200 jacket or like 180.

Speaker 1 She's like, we can't afford it. I don't have the money.
We leave. Never, I don't bring it up again.
And on Christmas, I open up a present and she got me the jacket.

Speaker 2 And I remember going to her and I'm going, mom.

Speaker 1 And, you know, credit cards were around, but she didn't have, she used to be able to go put things on layaway. If you remember layaway, where you make like a deal with the store.

Speaker 1 Hey, I'll pay you off. I'll maybe pay you a little interest.
It's basically like a credit card directly with the store.

Speaker 1 And you got to like kind of know she put the San Jose Sharks jacket on layaway and paid that shit off over the course of a year.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 1 And I still have the jacket in like storage. I'll never get rid of it.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 1 And I mean,

Speaker 2 it's amazing, dude.

Speaker 1 And the thing is, the jacket's great. The memory of what my mom did for me.

Speaker 2 And you're talking about it 40 years later, 35 years later.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I guess that's a good way.
I literally could cry. I guess that's a good way.

Speaker 2 Merry Christmas, everyone.

Speaker 1 We'll wish you Merry Christmas next week, too, because we do have an episode next week.

Speaker 1 And we do have Annie Agar coming up to close out the show. Before we do, we got one more thing to talk about, and we're going to

Speaker 1 tie it in with our good friends over at Wendy's.

Speaker 1 You know, we do fresh take it it a week, and you could also join Team Tendies and enjoy a lineup like never before. Crispy, juicy tendies now at Wendy's.

Speaker 2 Bro,

Speaker 1 by the time this airs, I mean, I think people will still be talking about it. My Knicks won the NBA M or whatever cup it is.
I don't even know what it's called.

Speaker 1 And, bro, you and I, we're like in a Twitter fight. We're doing a show right now, and we're crying over Chris's memories.
And while all the time, you and I are.

Speaker 2 I just love, I just love fucking, I just love poking. I just love such a ball breaker.
But look, hold on, dude, real quick, real quick. Let me just, let me just say something for you.

Speaker 2 When you go on Google and you type in New York Knicks titles,

Speaker 2 the New York Knicks have won two NBA championships in 1970 and 1973, led by legends like Walt Frazier and Willis Reed.

Speaker 2 They also recently won the inaugural NBA Cup in 2025, a separate tournament, making their first trophy in over 50 years, though it's distinct from an NBA Finals title. It is literally

Speaker 2 online.

Speaker 1 I do like that they

Speaker 2 are the dumbest.

Speaker 1 By the way, I'm not asking for that. So

Speaker 1 here's the way I look at all this, okay?

Speaker 1 I enjoyed watching that game. I was at the Sportsbook at the Grand Hyatt here in Baja Mar with a bunch of Knicks fans.

Speaker 1 Time of our life.

Speaker 1 And by the way, Sportsbook was packed. People left the party.
Like, hey, let's go watch the end of the Knicks game. It was a draw.
No one's watching Knicks Spurs if it's not the NBA Cup.

Speaker 1 It brought a few people to watch. So, number one, but I thought it's a great win.
It's a lot of fun. That's by no means do I think it should be a banner.
I think it's actually ridiculous.

Speaker 1 Your Lakers hung a banner. I think they got pressured from the NBA, so I give the Lakers a banner.

Speaker 2 By the way, I agree too. Right.
It's terrible. It's right up there next to Taylor Swift's banner.

Speaker 1 But I don't like, so I'm not saying, like, oh, the Knicks won a championship. I don't feel any better about the Knicks championship.
my, my entire Knicks fandom.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't feel any sense of accomplishment, right?

Speaker 1 But there's no reason why not. The Knicks should not celebrate that win because

Speaker 1 those games were intense. That was playoff level intensity.
And here's the thing about Knicks fans.

Speaker 1 We would be celebrating if that wasn't a Knicks, if that wasn't a cup, if that was just a road win in December versus the Spurs in an intense game.

Speaker 1 We would be online being like, oh, we beat the Spurs, we beat what we'd be celebrating anyway. So I don't see the big deal about like, it's going to be 24 hours.

Speaker 2 Our boy, our good friend Charles Barkley says the NBA Cup is embarrassing. I'm disappointed that we have to make an in-season tournament to make these guys more money.
This is a joke. Okay.

Speaker 1 I love Charles and certainly he could speak to it at a different level. But from the fan perspective, I think it's way more nuanced than let's get these guys some money.
Okay,

Speaker 1 why are they doing it? Because the regular season games at some point started.

Speaker 2 Because the NBA ratings are down and no one's watching.

Speaker 1 The regular season has felt too long

Speaker 1 and there's load management things and all that.

Speaker 1 And I think that's a much bigger nuanced conversation because yes, there is load management, but we also have 27-year-olds blowing out their Achilles at record numbers.

Speaker 1 So I'm not saying I'm a fan of load management because I'm not, but I also don't like when 27-year-olds in the peak of their powers are blowing out their achilles yeah dude

Speaker 1 basketball has been around a hundred years the load management wasn't a thing in the 90s early 2000s because i think this is not medically proven but i don't think michael jordan played four aau games a year for 10 years before he got to college i think that These guys are playing, and you could speak to this probably more than I can too.

Speaker 1 Your kid played AAU ball. It's like, I feel like they're tearing all this shit because they're playing one sport.
They're finding their sport that that they're majoring in.

Speaker 1 And they're playing like hundreds upon hundreds of games before they even like get into high school. So it started this chain reaction.
And look, I hate load management as well.

Speaker 1 Kevin Garnett says it best. You get paid for 82.
Yeah. You play your 82.

Speaker 2 People, talk about people saving money. People save money.
That's the part. I think Kobe had a great quote about it.
Like people.

Speaker 2 will save a year, pay $500 to go see their favorite player play.

Speaker 2 That's what players owe the fans. You're making $20 million a year.
I get it, dude.

Speaker 2 I play professional. I understand the impact it has on a body.
I totally understand. But, like,

Speaker 1 no,

Speaker 1 I'm with you. And

Speaker 1 my most proudest thing I can say about the Knicks for the last five years since Tibbs came in and now even with Mike Brown, they play hard, bro. There's not a whole lot of load management.

Speaker 1 They play every game hard. You know what Tibbs does to teams.
He has guys playing 40 minutes in January. So I don't feel bad about it.
But what I I don't love is, all right,

Speaker 1 I don't think the Knicks said, hey, let's do a big trophy presentation. Okay.
So we could clown it a little bit. That's an NBA thing.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 2 they just need to get rid of that, dude. That, that, that's what makes it like escalate into this.
Why are they celebrating? But they are. They're on a stage.
Well, you and I saw a big trophy.

Speaker 1 Tyrese Maxi tweeted, like, this is some high-level basketball you're watching. And that's a high-level dude.

Speaker 1 And say what you want, we've all somehow gotten to a place where the regular season feels less important and less anything.

Speaker 1 Those games, all the cup games for most of the teams were taken very, very seriously.

Speaker 2 Well, because some of these, because some of these guys are making money, that's good money for them. Because

Speaker 2 I don't see any other incentive. Like, who cares?

Speaker 1 They made 500 grand. Like Jalen Brunson and Josh Hart are donating the money to the staff.
They're giving the money to the staff.

Speaker 2 They don't need it, but the last 10 guys on the bench could use that.

Speaker 1 Right. But to your point always too, like, is Tyler Kolick trying extra hard? Because he watched that point.

Speaker 2 He's playing for his career.

Speaker 2 My point is these guys should be playing hard every night. That's my point.
It shouldn't be. It shouldn't be high-level basketball.
Yeah, go play high-level basketball for 82 games.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you're going to miss a couple games here and there. Yeah, you're going to be tired.
Like, I get it. NBA playoffs are high-level basketball because that's when it counts.

Speaker 2 The regular season, it's just, it's just, that's why it's it's so hard for people to watch the NBA during the regular season.

Speaker 2 When you get like a second, with all the rules, and it's such a, they're so soft now.

Speaker 1 When you get Chris Russo and like, and Stephen A.

Speaker 1 The Knicks shouldn't be celebrated. Like,

Speaker 1 who fucking cares that they're celebrating?

Speaker 2 Like, they won an important game to them. Okay.
The biggest problem is the fouls. And I, and I.
And the threes. And I love basketball.
I played it.

Speaker 2 I'm not like a, like, you know, I'm not like an NBA analyst, right? But like when I watch SGA, who's fantastic.

Speaker 2 Talk about baiting, right? The foul baiting and the fact that these refs, like James Hard had had it for years, right?

Speaker 2 Like the fact that these refs let that, it's like, it just makes it unwatchable because it's like, come on, bro. Like, like, come on.
Like, what are we doing? And SGA is great.

Speaker 2 Like, but that dude, that dude. I mean, he could, like, you breathe on him.
It's a foul. So it's like, why do people want to watch that?

Speaker 1 I just want to say terrible. As we close out our Wendy segment, thank you for letting us talk about this.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to look in the camera a little bit and to all my friends who are NBA media and sports media, guys like Chris Russo, all this, okay?

Speaker 1 You're saying you don't want to, don't celebrate it, and it doesn't mean anything. This NBA Cup doesn't mean anything.

Speaker 1 I bet you if it was Nick's Thunder, it would have meant something. And the Thunder, we're trying.

Speaker 2 That doesn't get you any closer to an NBA championship. No, here.

Speaker 1 it doesn't mean anything. I agree completely.
As far as an NBA championship, it means nothing. I agree.

Speaker 1 But if the Knicks, I'm talking about just for media, sports media guys saying, oh, it means nothing. Who cares? It's for money.
Who cares?

Speaker 1 If the Knicks lose to the Spurs, every single Talking Head sports show is waking up going, the Knicks can't win a championship unless they trade for Giannis.

Speaker 1 And they need to get Giannis because look what the Spurs just did to them in the NBA Cup.

Speaker 2 Could you imagine what the Thunder would do to them? That's because

Speaker 2 all your New York media friends are just out of their.

Speaker 1 It's not even new. What I'm saying is, don't say it doesn't matter.
And then, like, heads. It's just a hedge.

Speaker 1 Because if the Knicks lost, they just would have talked about how unprepared the Knicks are and how an unserious championship contender they are. So can't have it both ways is my point.

Speaker 1 Pick a lane and go for it.

Speaker 2 Oh, man. I love that you wore this throw mat.

Speaker 1 I love that you watched the little cup action. You saw Josh Hard give Brunson the old.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 I saw your boy Josh Hard give him a little thumb action up that.

Speaker 1 I mean, I know that's locker room fun and all that.

Speaker 2 It is, it actually made me laugh because I could just picture like how many times I've slapped a dude on the ass in locker room, just you know, you just mess around and

Speaker 1 I've never had anyone do that to me, but uh, I did have. I'm here, Anthony Anderson's at this event.
I was talking to him, and he reminded me of something. He did a cameo on Entourage.

Speaker 1 And if you go look at his cameo, when he walks away, for some reason, I have tears in my eyes. Like I was laughing on one of the takes, messing around.
We finished the take.

Speaker 1 He's like, Hey, Turtle, see you later. And he goes, whacks me in the balls, bro.
I almost dropped me. And that's the take they kept.
That's in the show.

Speaker 1 Not him whacking me, me crying, walking away like someone just stole my breath.

Speaker 1 All right. Thank you, Wendy's.
We are going to bring on Annie Agar, hit our twisted tea trivia. Woo! Came in hot today.
Me and Maddie, solo.

Speaker 1 Drinking and driving is a decision that will change your whole world. Things will never be the same once you get a DUI because legal fees and time in court are just the beginning.

Speaker 1 Getting into a crash is another way your world could be irreversibly changed after drinking and driving. Your vehicle may not be the only thing that gets damaged in a crash.

Speaker 1 You could face life-altering injury or even death, but you're not the only one who could face those consequences.

Speaker 1 Your decisions to drink and drive could permanently change someone else's world, whether you injure them or leave their loved ones grieving.

Speaker 1 The next time you're out drinking, call a ride share, a taxi, a sober friend, or a designated sober driver.

Speaker 1 The only decision that will change your world for the better is the decision to call for a sober ride. Drive sober or get pulled over.
Paid for by NHTSA.

Speaker 4 Every chase card holder experiences more. Savings on food, drinks, and merch at some of the biggest sports and music events.

Speaker 4 Enjoying great views from prime seats, and relaxing in exclusive lounges at top sports and music venues. Reserve your spot in advance and make more of every Chase experience.

Speaker 4 Tap the banner to learn more. Benefits available only to eligible Chase cardholders, terms, conditions, restrictions, and limitations apply.

Speaker 4 Deposit and credit card products provided by JP Morgan Chase Bank and A member FDIC.

Speaker 5 This episode is brought to you by Toyota. This winter, explore California in a brand new Toyota hybrid.

Speaker 5 Test drive the stylish all-hybrid Camry, the adventure-ready RAV4 hybrid, or the rugged Tacoma hybrid at your local Toyota dealer.

Speaker 5 Every new Toyota comes with Toyota Care, an exclusive hybrid battery warranty, and Toyota's legendary quality and reliability. Toyota, let's go places.

Speaker 5 See your local Toyota dealer for hybrid battery warranty details.

Speaker 1 All right, joining us as she does each and every week, Annie Agar, courtesy of Twisted Tea. Grab a refreshing Twisted Tea today.
And you got a road game today.

Speaker 6 I'm on the road, guys.

Speaker 2 I don't know why.

Speaker 6 Hopefully, I don't perform as bad as the Giants when I'm.

Speaker 2 I don't know why I'm just picturing you like in the parking lot of Costco.

Speaker 2 Even better. Bass Pro Shops.

Speaker 2 You're even better. I don't know.
I mean, Costco is my favorite place. Basketball shops.
Costco is pretty amazing.

Speaker 2 Like Disneyland for adults. Yeah.

Speaker 6 And when you get all the free samples, like you walk around and oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to avoid the Costco stuff as long as my wife mentioned, y'all.

Speaker 1 should we join costco i'm like no why haven't you joined costco because i don't want to do you actually go there or you get like i don't want to set foot in a costco for the rest of my life dude the kids run around it's like

Speaker 1 costco clothes hit dude when you turn 40 bro they're like and you got to bring a u-haul truck to bring all your stuff home because you have yeah

Speaker 2 they're a little stingy on the boxes the one by me now which kind of is upset i'm like it's it's just carry all this stuff this bulk stuff by myself

Speaker 1 well before we get to some amazing twisted t trivia we'll see how any the road game is today uh i got a few things i wanted to hit up today um number one we should like nod our heads take a moment of silence for the kansas city chiefs right like i thought you were awful way to end it

Speaker 1 we're gonna get there but awful way to end it like and awful for my bank account as well i just keep betting on the chiefs and they were finding ways to lose but that was one of the most uh

Speaker 2 i don't know i just felt sad after it happened like it just felt sad i didn't want to see like you're watching like a great warrior go fall on his sword you know i kind of feel like they're the one dynasty that like i i just i had it was hard for me to dislike them because mahomes a great dude it's like i love kelsey i love andy reed it was just i wouldn't mind seeing them stay on top and keep doing it right like you have some of those dynasties before where maybe people like didn't like the patriots because bill bellichek was kind of an asshole all this stuff like you've respected brady but like it was hard to dislike the Chiefs in my opinion.

Speaker 2 So it is kind of a bummer, man. But and then Mahomes, you know, Mahomes, I know you will.

Speaker 2 Mahomes kind of going out like that, probably Kelsey's last run. Like it's, yeah, it's a bummer for sure.

Speaker 6 That's the thing.

Speaker 6 We'll never see that Chiefs team the way they were, whether Andy Reid's gone or Travis Kelsey retires, like, or Mahomes isn't back to his normal self, which pray to God that doesn't happen because one of the best ever do it.

Speaker 2 It'll be fine.

Speaker 1 Well, it makes you put Brady in perspective too because like mahomes and brady at this point in their careers are at the very exact same place rings appearances maybe mahomes has more appearances but then the knee then the big knee injury so like brady then goes on to win four more super bowls and all like so you know

Speaker 6 the amount of patriots fans though that have said hey that was week one like we didn't lose the playoffs like the chiefs did and then brady went down you know who took his place who took matt castle and they went like 11 one of the

Speaker 2 they went 11 and five.

Speaker 1 11 and 5 and didn't make the playoffs.

Speaker 2 They beat us. They beat us.
And then that's the year we went to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 The other thing, and sorry about Micah Barnes.

Speaker 1 These injuries are, I mean, they've always been bad in the NFL, but now it's just, as you get down to the playoff time, it's just, it's getting

Speaker 1 worse and worse.

Speaker 1 And then I was also thinking,

Speaker 1 I always ask you guys, who do you think has the best MVP odds? It's like, shit, was it Josh Allen the whole time? Just like we thought it was in the beginning of the season?

Speaker 2 because dude is like right there now.

Speaker 6 It depends on how they, how they value the MVP role, because MVP, he's literally, he is the MVP. That team would not would be maybe four wins without him.

Speaker 6 Like, he is, he is the entire offense, he and James Cook.

Speaker 6 But if you're in terms of like stats, and obviously everybody's looking at Stafford and everything, but in terms of who brings the most value to their team, it's got to be Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 I agree. He definitely won't be.
I think Stafford's going to win it, though. I think so, too.
I'm like,

Speaker 2 Stafford's numbers are ridiculous, and he's doing it at 39 years old, 38 years old. And they're arguably the best team in the NFL.
But Josh Allen is,

Speaker 2 like, for him to have no receivers. James Cook is great.
The offensive line is spotty. The defense is spotty.

Speaker 2 And for him to be able to carry a team like this in the National Football League is absolutely ridiculous. And

Speaker 2 you look at the playoff picture. Burroughs out.
Mahomes is out. Lamar is, are they officially eliminated? I'm not sure, but they're right there.
Like, this is his window to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 Because if you don't, like, you got all these young, like, bonics, got all these young kind of studs coming up, dude. I'm telling you, this is it.
This is the year. They got to win.

Speaker 1 Do you think, though, for the first time in a while? Like, obviously, the NFL's not nervous about anything. It's still the best product and best sport in America for sure.

Speaker 1 But this could be the first year. Be like, oh my God, is it going to be

Speaker 1 Chiefs? I mean, not Jaguars, Seahawks in the Super Bowl. Like, we could get a really weird Super Bowl this year.

Speaker 2 Is it on Fox? Is it on my network? I don't know. I don't know if you want to win that.
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2 They care about who's in the Super Bowl. That's all I know.

Speaker 1 It's Texas. It's not on Fox.

Speaker 2 It's probably CBS. It's probably CBS in, right? Yeah.

Speaker 6 It could very well be the Texans, too. That'd be crazy, wouldn't it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, this could be the first really weird one.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 1 Before we get to Twisted Trivia,

Speaker 1 I have a case to make about something that not many people are talking about.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 And I think when you actually break down the case, it's a real case and should be heard. So I'm going to ask you guys a question.

Speaker 1 Off the top of your heads, who do you think are, give me a few players you think are in the top 10 for offensive player of the year, not MVP, offensive player of the year.

Speaker 2 Puka.

Speaker 1 Puka's up there. He's about fourth.

Speaker 2 Jonathan Taylor. Taylor.

Speaker 2 Jackson, Smith, and Jigba.

Speaker 2 Heavy favorite right now.

Speaker 2 The quarterbacks. Oh, is he?

Speaker 6 Oh, yeah. I forgot.
He's his number one.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Stafford, Drake May.

Speaker 1 JSN is a heavy favorite. Jonathan Taylor, two.
C-Mac and Puka

Speaker 1 and Gibbs tied at three. And then you got

Speaker 1 somehow George Pickens is up there. I don't know what was going on there.

Speaker 2 He's having a year, dude.

Speaker 1 And then, look, I mean, JSN,

Speaker 1 no one would be mad if he got it. He's having an unbelievable season.
But why? Now, we always talk about the running back slander.

Speaker 1 Running backs don't get MVP, and they usually are in the running for this. Now it it has become a receiver.

Speaker 1 Why are we not talking about Trey McBride for offensive player of the year?

Speaker 1 The dude is leading the league in catches.

Speaker 2 He got 105 catches because he plays for the Arizona Cardinals.

Speaker 1 Exactly. They have no other offensive weapon, and somehow he has more touchdowns than JSN.
He has more touchdowns.

Speaker 2 That's because he gets 20 targets a game.

Speaker 6 We had a trivia question that he's a great player.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 6 And you took us like forever to get there.

Speaker 1 JSN has three fumbles, no fumbles for Trey McBride. Like, why is he not? He's not even in that top 10 of Offensive Player of the Year betting odds.

Speaker 2 Because they're

Speaker 2 four and 10. And

Speaker 2 when you're down multiple touchdowns every game, all you do is throw the football. Yeah.
So he's going to say, no, I don't want to take it away from him. Go ahead, Annie.

Speaker 6 Would they give it to a team that's already eliminated from the play?

Speaker 6 Because you're going to be able to.

Speaker 2 Is Miles Garrett going to win defensive player of the year?

Speaker 1 Boom. I just won the argument.
Miles Garrett's going to walk away with defensive player of the year.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but getting

Speaker 2 sacks and that is a lot harder than catching 15 balls a game when you're getting targeted 30 times.

Speaker 1 No, but I'm saying it's not like Trey McBride versus Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett's going to walk away with defensive player of the year.
He deserves it, and his team is trash.

Speaker 2 Interesting.

Speaker 2 I don't, yeah. And

Speaker 2 McBride's great. This isn't like a thing on him.
He's a fantastic player. But yeah, I mean,

Speaker 2 I don't think that's a hot take. I think you're wrong, completely wrong on that.

Speaker 1 That he should be getting some real consideration. I'm not even saying he's necessarily

Speaker 2 getting consideration, but he's on a terrible team.

Speaker 2 When you're always down and you're just getting tons and tons and tons of targets, like it just, it doesn't feel like you're impacting the game the way a Miles Garrett is impacting.

Speaker 2 Miles Garrett is like a microparticle. You can single-handedly impact a game and

Speaker 2 keep your team in a game by sacking, by affecting the line of scrimmage. It's just different.

Speaker 1 One more counter, Annie and Matt is, all right,

Speaker 1 Puka is lining up next to Devontae. He's got Stafford throwing him the ball.
Jonathan Taylor, you can still make the case where he's falling off. C-Mac, that's a loaded offense.

Speaker 1 JSN, I mean, you can't say tons of weapons, but Darnold's ridiculous. I don't know.
I think what Trey McBride is doing is unbelievable. And he's still got four games left.

Speaker 1 So we might see a crazy season. Anyway, I just think that that's not one person anyone's talking about.

Speaker 6 I was going to say you might be the only one to bring up his name this week. So I'm glad we're going to be able to do that.

Speaker 2 I'm great. By the way, I love it.
He's a baller.

Speaker 1 Trey McBride Island. And the last thing, Matt, and then we'll get to do some trivia.
And Annie, I don't know what you feel about it. Fantasy football,

Speaker 1 it's still undefeated is the worst thing going.

Speaker 1 I lost to Jason Myers and the Bears defense. Straight up.
Lost to those two players.

Speaker 2 Really, really quick. He's got the second most targets in the NFL, dude.

Speaker 1 He's got the first.

Speaker 2 Jamar Chase.

Speaker 1 I mean, wouldn't you want to talk about that?

Speaker 2 He's literally got the second most targets. I mean, yeah, I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I think he deserves.
I think he deserves to be in the top three for the conversation.

Speaker 1 If you could talk about Miles Garrett, all right. I disagree.
And yeah, Matt, you're never going to change my mind. Fantasy is just the word.
And do you even play fantasy or no?

Speaker 6 I usually do, but this year we couldn't because we had a, it was either betting or fantasy deal, and we went with the betting one. So I didn't play this.

Speaker 6 Smart, which was good because I gave my therapist a little break.

Speaker 6 Fantasy oh, makes me so mad.

Speaker 6 You just can't can't wait.

Speaker 2 Maybe if I lived in a state where you could bet, I would do that.

Speaker 1 I think that's what your problem is, Matt. I think chalk one up for definitely not, bro.

Speaker 2 It's definitely not. I love fantasy football.

Speaker 6 Yeah, when we were talking about earlier, the pros and cons of living on the east coast or the west coast, that's a perfect. That's all we got.
We get sports betting.

Speaker 1 Let's, um,

Speaker 1 should we do a little twisted trivia? I, I, you know,

Speaker 1 we, we dismantled the argument on Odell Beckham. Matt got it in about 401 seconds before.
A win is a win.

Speaker 1 I'll take my loss.

Speaker 2 You just, you take your losses so like I literally told you when we were doing it live, I beat you. I said it before you and you were like so gung-ho.
I'm like, bro, the film doesn't lie.

Speaker 2 It just doesn't lie.

Speaker 1 I understand.

Speaker 2 Okay. Annie, I know that's going to be part of the show.
We yell at each other. So the fact that you understand is great.

Speaker 1 But when it wasn't like you were a full second ahead, it was like point zero.

Speaker 2 It doesn't matter. It's just the same.

Speaker 6 It was very close.

Speaker 2 Thank you.

Speaker 1 I wasn't like far off.

Speaker 6 But you could tell there was one person talked before the other for like a split second. I just couldn't tell who.

Speaker 1 Wow, E2, Annie. E2.

Speaker 2 All right. Sorry.

Speaker 1 Matt's up. Matt is 11, three, and one in trivia, and he has 40 total questions, right? I have 27 questions, right?

Speaker 2 Um, that's a number one seed right there. That's a number one seed in the AFC.

Speaker 1 I'm about to go, like, I'm about to go Cinderella James Madison for our boy Joel Klatt. Let's go.

Speaker 6 Matt's going to get offensive player of the year in this trivia.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's going to get offensive player of the year.

Speaker 2 Jerry's getting cut for sure.

Speaker 2 All right, let's go.

Speaker 2 Let's go all right these are these are more like current questions that are come on jerry i'm actually this year jerry i'm rooting for you i'm rooting for you i'm not even going to say anything because i want you to win let's not do the choice thing bro okay all right first question who is second in the nfl and sacks this season

Speaker 6 second in the nfl in sacks nick bonito nope good guess though he was leading for a while well garrett's one so yep

Speaker 1 someone's surprised this guy's probably like 10 sacks lesser but yeah is it Will Anderson?

Speaker 6 Nope.

Speaker 6 Let me know if you want a hint.

Speaker 2 It's not Will Anderson, Benito, or Miles Garrett. Yeah, we need a hint.
We both guessed.

Speaker 6 It's close to home for Jerry.

Speaker 2 Burns? Yep. Brian Burns.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 How the hell did I not know that?

Speaker 2 I was going to say him first.

Speaker 1 Because I stopped watching Giants games four weeks ago, is why. I haven't watched a Giants game in like

Speaker 2 five weeks. Jerry kicked me off.

Speaker 1 Dude, I've ignored this part.

Speaker 6 Neither has Joe Shane, so you know.

Speaker 6 Okay, number two, who is second in the NFL in rushing yards this season?

Speaker 1 James Cook.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I just saw that the other day because he's on my fantasy team.

Speaker 1 If I have to listen to my nephew one more time, tell me James Cook is the best running back in football. It's the only reason why I knew that.

Speaker 2 This guy is such a homer. He is.

Speaker 6 Okay. Number three.
Who is second in the NFL in receiving yards this season?

Speaker 1 It's not Trey McBride.

Speaker 2 Puka Nakua.

Speaker 6 Yes, it is Puka.

Speaker 2 Well done. You guys killed on this guy.
He's also on two of my fantasy leagues. Oh, yeah.
Jackson Smith and Jake was one, right? Nakua is two. Yeah.
Yep.

Speaker 6 Okay. We have two pictures.
You have to name this player. All right.
Picture number one.

Speaker 2 Drake May.

Speaker 6 Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 Jerry and Mercy, I swear to you. It's a lag.
It's a lag. I said it like a second before you.
It's all about it. Eddie, everybody.

Speaker 2 I mean, that's not even close, bro. Not on to me.
Yes.

Speaker 2 Drake May.

Speaker 1 Another video review. That's great for the program.

Speaker 2 That's easy. I won that one for sure.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Next picture.

Speaker 6 Who is this player?

Speaker 2 Will Levis?

Speaker 6 No. Wait.

Speaker 1 What did Matt say?

Speaker 2 I said Bo Nix. I said Bo Nicks.

Speaker 1 Damn it. Why did I say Will Levis?

Speaker 2 Bro, that was just an ass.

Speaker 6 They do kind of look alike.

Speaker 2 Will Levis, bro? Will Levis?

Speaker 1 I don't know what he yet popped into my head.

Speaker 2 That's Bonex. God, dude.
Honestly, I'm starting to feel bad. Is that it?

Speaker 1 Just those two? I'm glad it's over. I'm glad that one is over.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that wasn't your best showing.

Speaker 1 I'm going to make a prediction, though. I got the tiebreak this week for sure.

Speaker 2 I'll bet you $1,000 you didn't get it.

Speaker 1 Then it's the Bohemian Wi-Fi I'm on because I could not have said it any faster.

Speaker 2 It's not humanly.

Speaker 2 By the way, we had the same conversation last week. The same thing, dude.
All right.

Speaker 1 Well, Annie, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 Safe travel.

Speaker 6 Thank you, guys.

Speaker 2 Hey, what are you doing in Bass Pro Shops, by the way? Hey, what are you getting in there?

Speaker 2 Anything and everything.

Speaker 6 That place is like

Speaker 6 talking about an adult playground. That's my favorite place.
Yeah. And the one here is like a, it's massive.
It's like a, it's outdoor world and bass pro shops combined.

Speaker 2 Oh. Have you ever seen that video where the guy jumps in like the big fish tank and he's swimming like rocks in the fish?

Speaker 2 I think it was at a bass pro shop.

Speaker 6 I used that in one of my videos.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's so good.

Speaker 6 Naked. I said something about, I think it was Dennis Allen at the time, didn't go for it or something.
I said he had smaller balls than the guy in the Bass Pro shop did.

Speaker 6 Steve, we're back to balls.

Speaker 2 This is what we talked about, guys.

Speaker 2 Do we see you next week or are we leaving you alone for the holiday?

Speaker 1 Oh, we do. All right.
We'll see you. We'll see you back next week

Speaker 1 for maybe a Christmas edition of Twisted Trivia. Who knows? Love it.

Speaker 6 I will not be in my truck then.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 1 thank you very much, Annie. Drive safe.
We'll see you next week.

Speaker 2 Sounds good.

Speaker 1 All right, Maddie. That's it for us.
We got one more before 2025 comes to a close. Yeah, man.

Speaker 2 Big 25, go back, subscribe, like everything, throwbacks, follow us on Instagram at throwbackshow. We appreciate all the love, dude.
2025, one more show. Brought me a baby girl, completed our family.

Speaker 2 2026 is completing your family, bro. We're almost there.

Speaker 1 We're almost there. Some might say I...
got my wife her present already.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we talk about it. We'll talk about it next week before we close out the year, dude.

Speaker 1 Next week, we'll talk about it and we'll do uh getting down to the foot of our

Speaker 1 freezing cold takes of 2025, which we did last year and it went over really well. So, that episode will have freezing cold takes of 2025.
Thanks for listening, everybody.

Speaker 1 See you one more time in 2025.