Arian Foster Talks Running Backs, Playing with Matt Acting, Macrodosing and Improper Benefits

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Was it enjoyable when you're sitting there watching guys just like bomb a karaoke song?

Are you that bored at camp?

Yeah, you definitely are bored at camp.

I had to sing Nick Lachey's song because everyone made fun of me that we were friends.

And I had to sing Paris Hilton's song for obvious reasons.

You had to do two songs?

Two songs, bro, in Arizona.

Why'd you have to do the Paris Hilton one?

I don't good.

Follow-up, Arian.

Why, Matt?

You could Google that.

I don't know.

We hung out a little bit back in the day.

Oh, you used to.

I didn't know that.

I wasn't familiar with the game.

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Tell us what you want us to talk about, you know?

Well, I want to point out in a few minutes, we got the great Arian Foster joining us and then Annie Agar later in the show doing some more Twisted T trivia.

But I would be at fault not to say that I think we had a big week, Matt, you and I, with two things very near and dear to our heart.

As he puts on,

what kind of red is that considered?

That's a crimson?

What kind of red is that?

Still fits.

Was that game worn or no?

It's a little tight.

It's a little tight.

You didn't put pads under there.

That's not game-worn, right?

Well, the only reason why I'm putting this jersey on, because this will be the jersey that I believe Dave Portnoy will wear this weekend on Big Noon kickoff since USC kicked his team's ass and he was talking shit all week, really for three weeks now.

We'll see.

We'll see.

There's a little bit of a technicality in this bet.

We'll see what happens, but this is going to be the jersey.

It will fit him like a dress perfectly since he has his tail between his legs already.

But yeah, man.

We should talk to Arian about it because he's a barstool guy, Arian.

We should.

I'm actually curious about what Arian thinks about it.

Also, this,

you know how I feel about wearing jerseys, bro.

This does not, I don't feel comfortable wearing those jerseys.

That's your own.

That's different.

This is my own.

Also, it's USC Notre Dame Week.

Huge rivalry.

And I'm just going to, look, this game, they've dominated this game in this series, really the last, I I think, six of the last seven games.

USC hasn't beaten Notre Dame since 2011 at Notre Dame.

I think there's going to be some rain in this game.

It's a massive week.

We've talked about the history on the show.

We had Brady Quinn, my boy, on last year, talking about this game.

I'm excited for it for this reason.

It's an elimination game for both teams.

It's a playoff elimination game.

Notre Dame has two losses.

They just can't lose another one the rest of the year.

USC could lose this and still make a run and win out, but that schedule is still really difficult.

So a lot at stake, which makes this game even better, man.

Yeah, you win this game, Matt.

Your Trojans win this game.

You pretty much end Notre Dame's season, and then you were in pole position for a playoff spot as long as nothing.

Well, yeah, I mean, that's why

winning that Illinois game would have been huge.

Yeah.

Going into this game undefeated because 10 and two USC is probably in the playoff.

I just don't think they can lose.

I don't think they can beat Oregon on the road.

I don't know Nebraska on the road.

So, but it's a big one, man.

I will be locked in.

You know how you're locked in for your Giants?

We're going to get a locked in Matt.

All right.

I'm going to be on the FaceTime.

I'm going to be on the couch.

I'm going to be a little sauced up.

I'm already going to tell.

I get home early from this weekend, from big noon.

I'm going to have a couple, you know, couple beverages and

probably drink my sorrows away when it's all said and done.

Real quick, before I get to the thing that's close to my heart,

you know, these two teams very well.

What do you think?

What do you think needs to happen to win this one in order to

southback?

What do you think needs to happen?

They have to play how they played against Michigan, and that was winning the line of scrimmage, right?

That was like a game that it started to change a little bit of the perception of USC.

Like, hey, you can't do this now.

You can win these types of games or you can be physical.

The problem with Notre Dame is, and they're a really good team, is they're just very balanced.

Michigan, take away the run, force them to throw because they couldn't throw the ball.

Notre Dame, take away the run.

CJ Carr is a stud.

Like they're at this crazy stat in their last four games of win streak, they're over 300 yards passing, over 200 yards rushing.

They're just, they're on it.

They're on a tear.

That's the problem.

So defense is going to have to play out of their mind.

They're going to have to create turnovers.

They're going to have, you know, like football is always two or three plays a game, in particular on defense that can just change it.

They got to make those plays, however, that happens.

And if not, I mean, the spread is nine and a half, almost double digits.

Like there's a reason.

Well, you got to imagine, too, coaching, like they understand the moment of the desperation of like, you lose this game, Felt.

Yeah, this is a big playing for your you know it'll be over

um i mean the story though the story is is that in football in american football and in the united states of america are the new york football giants makes me so uncomfortable but also so happy how do you not love that dynamic duo of jackson dart and cam motherfucking scataboo so a couple of things matt you and i were texting thursday too

so you keep talking we were we were texting about the bets right i think think the Eagles were laying seven and a half.

The Giants haven't beaten NFC East team in like 10 games, let alone, and we'll talk about the primetime thing.

So I liked the Giants to cover.

They really got up for this game.

They're actually playing good at home.

I'm not getting ahead of myself.

Like, I'm not thinking playoffs.

Like everybody.

Yeah, I'm not saying, oh, we're a playoff team.

Maybe they sneak in.

I doubt it.

I'm not saying, oh, this team's going to win a Super Bowl.

All I'm saying is, we got our guy.

We got the guy.

Now, does he stay healthy?

I hope.

I hope they don't like Brian Dable doesn't give him a QB draw as soon as he leaves the blue tent, but they ran the ball the minute he comes out of the blue tent.

The next play was like a QB draw.

Like, we don't know if he was, I mean, he could, that could have been like a leg.

That could have been anything.

He probably just got a little dinged up.

Just go check it out.

He's got to stay healthy.

He's got to learn.

He's got to learn how to play that position, but also utilize his strengths.

He's not built like Josh Allen.

Jackson's a big kid, but he's not that.

He's not built like Josh Allen.

He's not as

like slippery as Lamar Jackson, but he's a runner and that's one of his strengths.

They have to figure out how, and that takes time.

You learn how to take hits.

You learn how to duck hits.

You learn how to get out.

But I mean, he's, he's injected a crazy energy into that team and that city.

You have hope.

You have hope.

And Scataboo, I don't know how long Scataboo's going to play football for because he's just, he's on a different level, but he's given, I mean, equally to the quarterback, who would ever have thought Cam Scatab, the running back, fourth round pick would give the same amount of juice and injection.

And just like, it's just fun.

Like it's, it's, it's football is fun to watch.

The Giants are fun to watch.

And now, win or lose, everybody's going to be tuned in to watch them play because of those two guys.

And also, we've talked about this, man.

Like, like, you still got a lot of, you still got guys that are paid, paid on that team.

Like, you still have NFL caliber guys.

They've proven that they can, they can compete with.

the Eagles.

They've proven they can compete with these teams.

So again, is it a playoff team?

Probably not.

But at the end of the day, you win a a couple more.

You start to hover around 500.

Like this season is bananas.

Like, who's the best team in the NFL?

We don't know.

I mean, the Giants, like,

they're, they're, they're fun, man.

They're fun.

Well,

I'll wrap it up with this.

Okay.

Joe Shane absolutely hit on the draft.

You and I were at the draft.

Okay.

And we, I loved the dart pick.

I mean, think about the draft.

Abdul Carter, Jackson Dart, Cam Scatabu, and RD tackle.

Adona, I'm slipping on it.

Like

that's potentially a franchise-altering draft.

And you still may get a good pick next year, right?

Because the Giants still may go 6-11.

We still might have a top 10 pick.

And, you know, Joe Shane brought Brian Burns over, who's leading the league, I think, in sacks.

The Giants

are going to be able to get a bunch of

people.

Yeah, Burns and Abdul Carter on the same side a couple of times in that game.

It's like, yeah.

You have to pick up.

You got a lot to build around, dude.

Like, you have to pick one guy you're going to try to stop, and then that other guy is going to come around.

So to me, there's hope.

And I'll end with this the reason why giant fans are losing their mind obviously we have a quarter they haven't won daniel jones god bless him awesome year and this stat is not on him one in 15 in prime time games that is thursday night monday night sunday night we've won one time before last thursday in like six years do you know how fun it is to win at night you've won a lot of games in your career guess who's got the best goes got guess who's got the best record in the nfl danny jones danny jones

So I'm containing myself.

They're not making any bold predictions, but the vibes, they are high.

They are high.

And let's get to someone else who has some high vibes.

Take it away, Matt.

All right.

Today, our guest, my guy, former all-pro NFL rushing leader, four-time Pro Bowler, the host of the Micro Dosing podcast with Barstool.

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Welcome on, Arian Foster.

What up, my guy?

What's up?

My dog, what's going on, baby?

I didn't know half of that shit you said.

I don't know half of that shit you said.

I need to look up New York Times,

yeah.

I was like, this fool had a, like, I didn't even realize you were just this music mogul, dude.

I do my thing, you know, I have, I have had passions outside of the gridiron.

I literally texted, I texted Orlofsky this week.

I said, hey, what do you remember about Aaron?

He's coming on the pod.

And he goes, man, ask him about how he used to rap in front of the team meetings.

That's what he said.

He's exaggerating about how many times I did it, but I did do a, you know how you have to do do rookie shows?

Yeah.

Yes.

So I had to do rookie show.

And I mean,

dudes was up there dancing.

I didn't, it's not my vibe.

So like I just wrote a verse about the

scheme, the coaches, the players, and it was, it was a hit.

It was, it was pretty dope.

Can I ask you guys something then while we're at, before we move to other things?

I used to love watching the rookie show on like hard knocks and stuff, but at some point it just became very uncomfortable because there was so many young rookies getting up there that had no other talent other than football.

At least Arian has talent.

Like, was it enjoyable when you're sitting there watching guys just like bomb a karaoke song or like do some weird dance?

Is that really entertaining?

Are you that bored at camp?

It's kind of like a, yeah, you definitely camps long, bro.

Yeah.

And I don't know how it is nowadays.

Everything's kind of different now, but when we was there, yeah, it gets boring.

There's nothing, nothing to do.

And it's entertaining seeing guys struggle up there.

Yeah, it gets, it's, it's, it's kind of, it's like a, it's like a rite of passage, too, you know?

Like, everybody has to do it.

I think we used to throw like, we used to throw watered, watered up paper balls at, I think, in Houston is what we used to do.

Just get up, boo, get off the fucking stage.

If you were shitty, I had to sing, uh,

I had to sing Nick Lachey's song because everyone made fun of me that we were friends.

And I had to sing Paris Hilton's song, you know.

You had to do two songs for obvious reasons.

Yeah, two songs, bro, in Arizona.

They got me good.

Why'd you have to do the Paris Hilton one?

I don't

a good follow-up, Arian.

I mean, why, Matt?

You could Google that.

We hung out a little bit back in the day.

Oh, you used to.

I didn't know that.

I wasn't familiar with the game.

Okay.

So

that USC Trojan life was different, man.

Damn.

I mean, we did it.

We had a good run, bro.

Absolutely.

Aaron, I want to see if you're familiar with this and test your memory real quick.

Okay.

November 27th, 2011.

Texans defeat the Jaguars 2013.

Do you remember who your starting quarterback was?

Yep, it was Matt Lyard and he got hurt.

Man, what?

Was it collarbone?

I think he broke your collarbone.

Yeah.

Yep.

10 for 13, 57 yards, and a TD.

Now, I asked Matt because I looked up your numbers and you had seven catches for 24 yards.

I was like, Matt, were you checking it down?

Like, no, no, no, I was like,

I only played a half.

I barely played a half.

Yep.

Yep.

I was

that year.

I tell people all the time: if we have a healthy,

no disrespect to TJ Yates, but he was a rookie quarterback.

If either of our of our Matt stayed healthy,

I think we make a serious run at the Super Bowl for real.

Because we were so stacked on all both sides of the ball.

Top three offense, very, very good defense.

I think Mario Williams got hurt that year, too.

That was, to me, was my best,

you know, a chance at winning the Super Bowls that year.

And then Matt got hurt.

So I blame you, honestly.

You could play it.

It was literally the, I would say, because my career, that, that, I was telling Jared, I said it was the most ready I felt.

My rookie year, I played well.

And then, you know, Arizona happened.

And then I go to Houston.

And you know, Kub, Kubiak was amazing, man.

He took care of us.

And that system was so great for quarterbacks.

Like Shanahan's still running it now.

And it just fit my style.

And it was, I was telling him, I was like, dude, it's the best I ever felt in the league where I was like ready to go.

I was like, man, this team is is great.

I got obviously Aaron.

You got these receivers.

Our D was nasty.

And I'm like, I'm going to get like, this is my, my chance to get a big deal.

Like, I was locked in.

And then, dude, I freaking throw in a screen.

I don't even remember.

It was a screen to you.

Yeah.

And I threw it away.

And I got just, I got like, you know, like wrapped up and landed and broke it right before.

It was the saddest day.

One of the saddest days of my life, dude.

Honestly, it was like.

You don't get hurt in today's NFL on that play.

I know, right?

Not allowed.

They'll ease up on you.

They would have eased up on you.

It wasn't, yeah.

I was so, I was so mad, but I was telling him, man, like, that was the most fun.

Houston was the most fun I've ever had in football.

We talk about Houston a lot.

I, Ari, I'm a big, well, I was a big fantasy football guy, not as much anymore because I just can't take the injuries, but I was in on you.

I want to say before anyone, I caught you right around.

Now I'm looking because I had it looked up.

Okay.

All I know is I started you your rookie year in a Super Bowl, which was week week 50, my Super Bowl, week 15 against, because the previous week you kind of went off and you're starting to get the ball a little more.

And then I start you in a Super Bowl.

They give Ryan Moates like 18 carries, man.

You only got the ball two, you had two carries in that game.

I think it was

St.

Louis against St.

Louis.

Against St.

Louis and you won the game.

And you only, I was like, I thought for sure my guy was like, why?

No, the reason why is because I was a rookie.

I remember

I was a rookie and they pulled me up from the practice squad and they were like, all all right, because, you know, I was getting busy on practice squad.

And they pulled me up and the dude made just an amazing play.

I catch the balls on a little check down.

I catch the ball.

I turn, I tuck it.

It's high and tight.

And the dude made just a textbook.

He punched the ball out.

And it was just textbook.

It was a textbook, man.

So I was like, there was nothing I could,

it was a great play, but he gets paid too, you know?

And so I got to get off the field.

They're like, you know, leave him out.

He's not, he's not, he's not coming back in.

And so that week, though, my coach comes to me, goes, hey, you got one more shot.

This is it.

He's like, if you, if you, if you put the ball around, you don't show up.

He said, we're going to have to let you go.

I was like, all right.

So the next week we played Miami.

I got off.

And then the next week, I got off again.

There we go, Jerry.

For about 15 years, you've been waiting to hear the answer.

Why they got my answer.

That cost me a Super Bowl.

That cost me a fantasy chip.

Don't you love when fantasy football dudes were like, Arian!

That must be the weirdest thing when fans are talking about

now.

It's different because it's gambling.

Yeah.

Do you hate it?

No, no, I used to hate it, but I didn't have a lot of foresight when I was younger.

When I was younger, it was all about the humanity of it.

Like people didn't see the humanity of you.

And I used to hate that part of it.

But as I got a little older, I understood like it helped grow the game to a

global market.

People enjoy it.

80-year-old grandmas come up to you, say, you were on my fantasy team.

Young kids come up to you, say, and so like they develop an appreciation for you.

Whereas if you're not in their market, they're not going to watch you.

So they would have never even known who you were, but they could appreciate your your production on the field from it in a different way so i ended up appreciating it towards the end of my career what do you what do you miss most about football uh it's just the fellows you know what i'm saying just the the locker rooms joking um any anytime i get up with guys it's like it's like this

remember

like edges right yeah it's like when i remember when i saw you randomly as i i seen you i was doing press roll for draft day

and uh and

i was like what the are you doing here and you was he was interviewing me and oh it was just like

you light up when you see one of your guys that you used to bleed and sweat with and grind with.

And it's just like that never goes away.

It never goes anyway.

Dude, did you play?

You didn't play Bouret with us.

You were never...

No, I was not to play with Tim.

I played, but y'all used to do a lot.

I was.

I was more of a Jerry's guy.

We would play.

We would be...

I swear to God, we would be taking shits in the bathroom, dropping cards, dropping cards onto the ground, playing Bo-Ray.

Me, Shab, Dan, Uh, who else was in that?

Uh, Myers,

all those guys.

See, see, when you got there, man, I hadn't gotten no money yet, so

I will, I was not gonna get paid after.

I ended up, yeah, I ended up doing one of the fucking safeties still owes me like three grand, dude.

I thought, I, he, see, that he didn't have, I was pissed, I couldn't, and then I got cut.

Yo, y'all's, y'all's games.

I used to go back there in the planes, them games used to get up to like them.

Pots used to be,

I'm an undrafted free agent.

I'm like, bro, I'm not fucking with that.

dude the word the best one was i'll never forget and shab was the worst because shop shabby was paid shabby would bring like 10 stacks like on the plane just cash boom at least and like you know dre would play and obviously dre had his money and all these guys and it would be me da dave anderson who was you know making probably league minimum and we would play and one time da

got booed for like 14 grand or 15 grand.

And like he stayed in the game because he got it.

He got fucked.

And I swear to God, we were like, he started almost crying, dude.

And I was like, we actually felt bad.

We were like, I think we made him pay like $3,000.

But it was like, I was like, bro, you can't play this game anymore, man.

Like, it was, it was rough.

That's why, that's why I don't, I never did it.

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You know what's always interesting to me?

I talk to Matt about this too.

you know, players who played the game their whole lives retire.

Like, how much actual football do you still watch?

You know, I mean, I'm sure you watch, but like,

or have you even been to a game?

Like, what's the last, have you been to a football game since you retired?

There was, there was a good,

I say,

seven, eight-year stretch where I just never really watched any football.

There was nothing.

It just, it, because I mean, watching it as a, as an ex-employee,

it's almost, it's, it's like work almost.

And then, and then it's not, it wasn't enjoyable for me because like how we watch the game is not how the normal person watches the the game.

We're breaking down the game.

What coverage are they in?

Why would he blitz there?

What are you doing?

Here's third and six.

You got to do that.

And that's just stressful.

It's work.

You know,

it's work.

And I, and it wasn't until I kind of decompressed after the career and I'm starting to enjoy the game again from a fan's perspective.

It's, it's, it's getting more enjoyable.

Uh, this year, I decided to, um, to coach a little league team.

And that's been a lot fun for me, kind of getting back to the basics and where it started.

Um, but also kind of frustrating, too, because I'm like, I'm like, come on.

Yeah, I was like, dog, you got to scrape up to the linebacker.

And they're like, what?

We can't even go on two.

I'm asking them to do double blocks.

It's just

it's frustrating for them, but it's also that that's the pure part of the game where they're doing it just because they want to get out and have fun and yada yada.

But, you know, we're doing well.

And, but from my perspective, football is always going to be like it was like a refuge for me.

And so I'm glad I'm getting to the point now where I can watch and enjoy the game, just enjoy it.

I feel like, too, it's like, I, I was telling Jerry, I've probably been to three games since I retired in like 13.

And for the same reason, I just, I just, one, probably part of me, too, it's like, what could have been like, damn it.

Like, I should have, I should have been better.

I could have done this.

I could have done that.

You know, there's always some regret.

And I'm happy, obviously.

But I think, too, as our kids get older, is now what I'm starting to see.

Like, my boys are into it.

And I'm like, all right, I'm starting to become a fan.

You know, some of the guys, plus two, like all our boys are damn near like retired.

Like, I don't really have any friends.

Like, I have guys, but like, Aaron Rodgers, like, the last oh, he can, I mean, I'm older than you, Aaron, but like, he's like the last dude, like, to keep playing, like, Flacco as well.

But yeah, um,

yeah, it is, it is interesting.

Um, what do what do you, I mean, coaching, like, so have you seen uh Greg Olson and Luke Keekly in the way they coach their kids' teams?

I haven't.

Oh, my God, bro.

These guys, these guys are intense.

You got to look it up.

It's freaking.

See, they're going to be yelling and shit.

Well, but they teach it, but they teach it the way that you probably would want your kid to be taught because they know what they're talking about.

Yeah.

See, I come with a different approach.

My approach is how I wanted to be coached, right?

I wanted somebody to care.

I wanted somebody to

teach me that was knowledgeable, but cut all that military bullshit out because I hated that shit.

Cause I used to like,

first time I get to college, they, they, because like high school, especially high high school in California was different, right?

High school football in California was like, from where we was at, we would talk back to the coaches, but it was like a mutual respect.

It was like, I ain't doing like, it was just, we was just, it wasn't this down south, like, yes, sir, no, sir, thing.

It just wasn't a thing.

And so when I first get to college, we out on the field and he's like, motherfucker, what do you do to do?

I looked at him like, bro, what?

I was like,

why are you talking to me?

Like, I was like genuinely confused.

Like, what is, are you crazy though?

And then I go up to him after I'm like, dog, if you need me to do something, just tell me.

Like, you don't have to yell at me.

Like, why are you talking to me like that?

You can't take tough coach.

I'm like, I could take whatever you can give me, but there's literally no point in yelling at me like that.

You wouldn't do that if we were just sitting at a bar talking.

And you wouldn't just start motherfucking me.

Why do you feel like it's okay between these lines?

That make no sense.

Just tell me what you want me to do, though.

I don't miss a lot of assignments, though.

Just tell me what you need.

I hated that.

So, with my kids, so I got a kid.

I got a young kid right now who's a backup running back, but he plays a lot because our starter and running back is also the mic linebacker.

And so he plays a lot and he's really struggling with holding onto the ball.

He's had like five fumbles this year.

And I, as an ex-running back, I could relate to that.

And so everybody's on his head, like, get him out of, get him out of here.

And so I pull him to the side.

I'm like, listen, man.

Like, you know what I'm talking about.

I'm just talking to him like a young boy.

Like, he needs somebody to believe in him.

He don't need a drill sergeant.

And this is youth football.

Like, he's going to remember this.

for a long time about how we react to his mistakes.

And I'm trying, I was trying to reiterate that with the coaches I'm coaching with is like, like, yo, they're, they're they're 12.

They're 11.

They're going to fuck up.

You want them to fuck up or else it would be weird if they didn't fuck up.

It's about us coaching those mistakes.

Like, and granted, like, I'm not on pushover, but at the end of the day, I would rather have them learn than to be great soldiers.

You know what I mean?

How hard is it for you?

Because I deal with this with my oldest, who's going to play college ball next year a little bit.

And he's, he's also like, he's a grown man.

He's almost 19.

So like, I'm speaking to him differently than I was at probably 12.

Is it hard for you at all to separate like Aaron Foster, the football player, and what you know and what you went through when you speak to him or speak to other kids

from being a dad?

I try to keep that in mind because this is somebody's son, right?

But at the same time, you know, I do have kids around that age.

So I got a 12-year-old and an 11-year-old.

He's just turned 11.

And so I understand what they need at that age.

And there's sometimes

they'll cry to try to get out of shit, right?

And they'll whine or they'll complain you know saying they'll pout stuff like that and so i talked to him like i would talk to my son at that at that like there was this one kid who uh who hurt his leg right

he he's faking the injury because he's tired i see i see the screw up tired so so he's on the ground he's crying he's rolling back and forth i was like and so i saw first i assess it to make sure nothing's wrong and then

i think some kid like kicked him in the leg or something like that and he's crying like i was like you want you want the good news or the bad news i got i got some news for you though he's like he said give me the good news i said good news is it's not broke he's okay give me the bad i i was like you're looking real soft right now you need

right it's like you know what you're doing yeah and then he laughs and he gets up because it's like you know sometimes yeah sometimes they need a little kicking ass you know but and you got to find that balance that's the hard part about being a coach is you got to find that balance but the good thing is like you know i have kids i understand how to talk to my kids um but also there's a fine line between like going too hard but like so last game right We got like three of our best players that are out, right?

And this game is about the

same, Matt, the Jimmies and Joes, not the X's and those.

Right.

And so we just didn't have a, you know what I'm saying?

Some kids are not going to be professional athletes, and that's okay.

So, but I saw something in them that like they, they almost quit at the end of the game, and that shit pissed me off.

And so at the end of the game, I told him, I was like, listen, I'm the coolest coach you're ever going to see.

I said, and I start cussing.

I was like, I was like, but that shit there, I'm not going to tolerate.

I was like, y'all got to fight.

I said, you represent the names on the back of your jerseys, the your peers that you banging with.

I said, but you, you are not going to sit here and crack.

I said, this game changed my life.

I said, I'll be damned if I'm going to let y'all come out here and disrespect it.

Y'all can't do that.

And so, like, just talking to him like that, where, where you give him a sense of like, yo, this shit means something to some people.

You don't have to mean something big.

While you're here, you're going to give me what you got.

I'm curious because,

you know, you, to me, were sort of an end of a generation where still, I mean, I look at your carries, a lot of 300 plus carry seasons, like the MVP kind of running back.

And then it sort of went away.

And I guess when you do watch now, what do you make of the running back situation today?

Because the way I sort of look at it, I feel like we had these like three back situations going on now for a while.

But if you look at the playoffs last year, it's Saquon, it's Jameer Gibbs, it's Kyron, it's a lot of you know, top-tier run.

Like, yes, there's third-down backs, but it wasn't like the running back by committee thing.

And I'm wondering, you were one of the last like 350-carry running backs.

What you make when you do watch that position today?

Um, I think, I think football has done a great job at marketing this as a passing league.

They do a good job, and it is a passing league, right?

But I think when it comes down to what we call cold weather football and

when it matters, it will always come down to who runs the ball the best and who plays the best defense.

It always comes down to that.

You'll hear coaches harp on that all day long.

And so, like, passing will always sell the tickets and it's very, it's all good.

But it's always about what's going on in the trenches.

And I think people

that don't really know the game view it like that.

And so, oh, the running back's aging out, or whatever the case may be.

I just never have seen the game like that.

If you look at, if you look at Peyton Mannon's Super Bowls, if you look at Tom Brady's Super Bowls, if you look at Aaron Rodgers' Super Bowls, they got somebody toting the rock in the cold weather and in the late December games and on into January.

It's like that every year.

I would like you to explain to our listeners in the best you can, because I was very much, and I'm not saying this is what you were by any means, but I'm saying I was very, I very much fit in the system of

what we did in Houston, right?

The Shanahan, the like West Coast was USC.

That's where I thrived.

You know, I wasn't throwing the ball deep, all these things.

You were an absolute perfect fit in that system, the stretch zone and all that, like just like Terrell Davis was with Elway in Denver.

How would you explain that to just the average viewer of what makes that, maybe the different running type of systems and why you thrived so much and what that system was i think i would respectfully disagree but i understand what you're saying here this is this is oh i don't know i don't i'm not saying you're a system running back i'm just saying i know that you thrived in that system and i didn't see you in another one you know no i'm not i'm not even talking i'm not even talking about me right so i'm talking about like um just in general like that that system has a lot of success and it and it has a lot of success because um

of the players that played in it right so like they'll they'll have like a guy that's good every now and then, but there's, there's, there's a guy that has a thousand yards in every system every year, yeah, you know, but in this specific system, I think it's just, it's just very noticeable that it's a zone scheme and it's um, it's, it's very beautiful when it's executed, and so I think it's a little, I think it's a little bit more recognized.

So, like, you know, the down and around schemes, the pull and guard shit, that's a, that's a, that's also a scheme that people do very well in, right?

But I think it gets, I guess, again, I think, I think people, there, there has been some sex success from some like guys you didn't expect, but they were still ballers, right?

Like Terrell Dunn was a baller, right?

But Teatric,

I do believe that

it is a beautiful system.

I think that they, they, the way they coached it was phenomenal.

Kubiak, all both the Shannahans, Kyle Shannahan was the reason why I was in the league.

When I was a rookie and they were thinking about cutting me before they put me on practice squad, he stood up for me like, no, like, no, I need him.

Keep him here.

Keep him here.

All the scouts came up to him.

I was like, Kyle's the reason why you're here and then and then when i finally got my opportunity he kept feeding me so like i i got all the love and respect for kyle but that but it to make your to i mean to answer your your question i think what makes that so beautiful is like you have to be a very patient runner

and so a lot of times guys problems with running up in the open field is they get a little antsy and they get a little quick you know they just want to make a decision and go when when the line blocks beautifully your path what i was always taught, your path will block the second level, right?

So, maintaining my track, and I think my stride was very conducive to

that scheme because it's, it's, I have a long stride and I'll take a long stride, and all of a sudden I can change directions really fast.

So, that running style

fits really, really well.

But I feel like, I feel like that's, that scheme did not utilize me in the way that I think was, was best.

So, like, I did play under Bill O'Brien after Kublaff.

Also had a thousand yards.

Oh, that's right.

But, but more importantly, and this is why I was so upset:

was

when he realized like all my skill set, I felt like my hands were the best asset ever.

Oh, hell yeah.

And and they, and Koobe's offense really never really

utilized that.

They didn't, he didn't have a lot of plays.

He tried towards the end.

He started like, hold on, he could actually.

So he split me out some.

You don't ever see that in his offenses, right?

Kind of how Kyle uses Christian as well.

McCaffrey.

Yeah.

Cool started to do that, but it was so, it was kind of new.

It wasn't really a thing that he did.

Um, but but Bill O'Brien, he, I was during during training camp, I was going one-on-one with our number one corner and and putting in work.

Like, but I got, I, I had, I ended up getting hurt, so I didn't get to a chance to like do that in the games, but that's that was, I was extremely excited about that, but

yeah, and here I was just throwing you screen passes,

but that's that's what I'm saying.

So, like, my first two years, no, I get what you're saying, yeah, my first two years of actually being a starter, I had like like 600 yards receiving all on check downs.

Like on both years.

It's crazy.

TJ Hates threw you seven of them when Matt left the game, apparently.

Shout out to Toad.

He's coaching now, ain't he?

Yeah, he coaches the Falcons.

He's the QB coach for Pennix over there.

That's money.

And Cool Cousins.

TJ Matthews.

Yeah, I think just watching you in that system,

like you said, was beautiful.

That's the point I was making.

I was like, because the patience, like you said, and your ability, and I forgot about this, but your ability, like that, that one cut and just get upfield was like, I think, I mean, the best thing you did, at least in my experience with you in those two years, I was like, holy shit, you know, because I came from a shitty ass running team.

We had Edgerin, who was great.

Edgery was at the tail end, but we couldn't, the year we went to the Super Bowl, we were ranked 32nd in the country.

Like, we just couldn't run the ball.

But to get to that and see that, the way that was coached and the whole thing for me was like, God damn, like, this is how football should be played.

Like, that was,

that was great to watch, man.

No, it was, it was, it was dope, man.

I, I, I, I, I took, I took that.

Like, so, like, when you see,

like, so Saquon actually reached out to me not too long ago.

He was like, what do you think made your,

your zone so successful?

Like, and that was really dope because he's, like, the best in the game right now.

Yeah.

Um, but, like, it also shows that he's a student of the game and he studies,

studies tape.

And so, like, when younger cats reach out and stuff like that, like, the, the, the clinics we put on in Houston with the zone scheme reverberates throughout this this game and that's what i could appreciate like i've had a coach my my one of my quarterback coaches in uh college he reached out to me randomly and he was like hey we're we're teaching the zone scheme we used your film in houston i was like that that's dope man that's dope hell yeah bro i can't all right i can't get off the football topic just yet we do every week our wendy's segment so i'm gonna use our my last football question for you on our fresh take of the week presented by wendy's wake up with wendy's breakfast arian

who are three running backs that are your favorite to watch?

Could be past or present?

Just your personal favorite.

It's not a GOAT list.

This is not a my, this is just Arian Foster's three favorite running backs you love to watch.

That's a great question.

I would probably say

Barry Sanders, first of all.

I mean, that's just insane.

I don't think I'll ever see another athlete like that.

Eric Dickerson.

I think Eric Dickerson was just so beautiful to watch.

I modeled a lot of people.

He had the stride, too.

Yeah.

Yeah, I modeled my game after him.

And I think

another San Diego legend would be LaDane Thomason.

We don't talk about LT enough since he retired.

A thousand percent.

I think it's just because he was like quiet and didn't say much and just went out about a business, but he was absolutely one of the best athletes to play in NFL.

Very LT and ED.

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So now, selfishly, I want to throw this over to a field that I know a little more about than football entertainment.

I still ride or die for Draft Day.

I like Draft Day.

It's a a damn good movie.

What was that process where you like, like, did you have to go through multiple?

Maddie auditioned for a train for draft day as well.

So,

you know, how does that work?

That's why I was doing that press junket.

God,

you was about to be Bo Callahan?

No, I was about to be

Brian.

What was his name?

Brian Drew?

Oh,

was it the agent?

I forget.

No, Brian Drew is the quarterback that was going to get replaced by the rookie quarterback.

Oh,

it's been a while since I watched it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But where are you at in your life when that call comes in?

And what were your expectations?

Did you really want it bad?

Did you just say, Oh, I'm gonna play around with this and see what happens?

Take us through your draft day experience for a second.

No, so um, acting has always been something I've always done.

I was in theater class in high school, like, I love, I've always loved, I did, I was in plays, like, I love, I've always loved acting, and so, um, I had a background in it, and I got a call from my business manager.

He was like, Yo, um, they're shooting this movie, and they're saying that they have

guys that

are good actors, but don't look the part.

And the guys that look the part can't act.

And so they went to the NFL.

They was like, do you have anybody that has some kind of acting experience?

And they, and the, I forget her name.

Her name was April something.

Shout out to her.

She, she reaches out to us.

And she's like, would you guys want to audition?

And I was like, hell yeah.

So I auditioned for the part.

And this is my claim to fame.

I love this.

Because I was in a movie with Chavez Boseman, right?

and so when i got i ended up getting the part so i had to audition i sent my audition tape and they loved me i i went in i had to read for them live yada yada and so i got the part and then um then then they they hit me back and they were like we want you to read for this part now and it was chadwick boseman's part and so i read for that part i ended up just just playing my part but they they apparently this is allegedly by the way i don't know this is what this is what i was told that like there was people like yo i think this is probably a better look like go with him here rather than chat i'm not saying i'm a better actor than chat

i'm not saying i'm saying i'm just saying that's what was told to me was like there was people on both sides saying like i could play that role too so that was that was really dope and then i wanted to pursue acting um but

i don't know man when you have

when you got money it's just

no no say you're right keep going keep going it's so i it

I don't have the love for it to grind.

You know what I mean?

Like, if I wanted to to grind for it, I absolutely would.

Like, I would grind.

That's what I do.

I work hard.

But, like, I don't, I don't want to stand in audition lines all day and

get that.

Yeah, you just want that shit given to you right away.

That's how that's.

Oh, I like what Arian's saying.

I just don't have the interest in grinding it because I get it.

Why should I?

It just is, I would rather go and then I'm really grinding at golf now, though.

You know, that's what I'm saying.

Like,

minus the physical danger, the similarity acting has with football, again, minus the physical danger is like, if you don't love it, you won't, you won't really get through.

Like, you got to have love where you'll just play hurt, walk the shit, have a million people tell you, no, you're not good enough, and play around with your emotions.

Like, if you don't have that love, you won't sit and tolerate that.

You'll be out.

Yeah.

I mean, that's, that's also been the interesting part for retirement.

I don't know about the same for you, Matt, but seen a lot of my peers go through the same stuff.

It's like

you

work your entire life to to get to this destination and then you get there and then all of a sudden it's gone in a moment.

And it's like everything that I was was building to this point or everything that I, you know, attempted or

worked for, it became a part of your personality.

It became a part of who I was.

Getting up at 5.30 in the morning when nobody wanted to get up.

And then all of a sudden it's not there anymore.

You have to fill that that void with something and i know a lot of guys struggle with that i had some i had some time where i struggle with that um but it's a very weird like i used to even remember being on a plane and some like 70 year old cat you know we sitting in first class and he goes uh so what do you what do you do for a living i said i'm retired 32 years old

what and it's just it's and it's a very weird feeling because you have to Can't just roll over and die, you know, you have to go do stuff.

And it's, this is not a society that loves old people or aging or aging people or washed athletes.

Like, this is not a society that, that honors that.

And so you have to find ways to find worth, find ways to find self-love.

And that's been an interesting journey

in itself.

But, you know, I came out on the other end.

All right.

I think.

Gosh, it's like, it's so true because, you know, I retired at 30, gosh, 31.

And again, you make money and if you were smart with it, but it's like, how do you find the passion and love?

Like, I was even still still this day at 42 and I got like, I have my job on Fox and like, I got a bunch of little stuff now.

And I finally, in the last three years, have really like, hey, I'm more than like what I was in football.

And you were, you've been really outspoken about that.

Like football wasn't like, didn't fulfill you in the way that other things fulfill you, which I think is so great.

And the advice I give all, like even my son, it's like, find other passions.

Like football is a great sport.

It gave me everything.

I love the competition.

I love the boys.

I love all that.

But find, I mean, it is.

It really is a very small, small piece of your life.

You got to find other things that you love and passionate about and that can kind of create that self-worth that you said, which I love.

And that's one of the things I respect about you.

So even when we played, I was always like, man, this dude is different in the way he views everything, like in a positive way.

And again, we're so young.

Like I didn't, I was just so wrapped up in like trying to make it and play well and stuff, but it really was a good message.

I do want to shift real quick to NIL, dude, because

I didn't even really realize this about you, but like, I know you've been open about how, you know, taking those handshakes in college and shit.

So can we just kind of go back into that?

Because I get asked all the time.

And

I'll tell you right now, swear, like, everyone's like, how much money did you make at USC?

Listen, I can't speak for other people that I played with, but I didn't take, I didn't, I was like a broke kid from Santa Ana, just driving a white Ford Ranger.

So.

How much money would you have made in today's world?

I just want to know.

Let's go.

Stop it, Aaron.

Stop it.

Stop it.

It's fucking gay.

All right.

So, I, so, by the way, that's the reaction I get from everybody.

Yeah, yeah, because it's bullshit.

That's what I'm saying.

This, this is what I'm saying.

This is what I'm saying.

This is what I'm saying.

Bro, bro, bro, stop.

Stop.

What are you talking about?

Stop, stop, stop.

All right, listen.

By the way, wait, hold on.

Put him in his place, Arian.

Tell him.

I told Portnoy, who I'm going to ask you about in a second, the same shit.

And he looked at me the same way you're looking at me and be like, what the fuck are you talking about?

What do you want me to say?

Go ahead.

All right.

So during the league, um, when I was in the height of my career, I we came out with a documentary called School, the Price of College Sports.

And in there, I detail how when I was in college, I took improper benefits, right?

Um,

and and that it'd be, it was like a shit storm.

And they started an NCA investigation and called me, they called me,

they called me, bro.

They called me and it was like the NCA called me.

It was like, hey, this is the NCA, so-and-so with the NCA.

We're going to open up an investigation on improper benefits it was like are you going to cooperate i said nope good luck

these like and my problem with the nca is my and my problem with with the people in general and with ex-players was when i came out and said that i never i never said i never implicated any coaches i never implicated any anybody any other players i just said what i did and my my problem is this because i i went to go speak i was it was at harvard business uh school law school something like that i went to go speak they asked me to come speak and richard sherman and larifitz jail were there and we were talking it was like damn false like why why would you why would you say that man like you kind of it up for the younger for the younger cats i'm like i'm like y'all it up for the younger cats i'm trying to help get them paid bro we deserve to get paid i said but if everybody tight-lipped about the shit that happened i was like think about it if i told us i told fits this i said think about it bro i said if you came out said you took money

And then, and then Rich, you came out and said they took money.

Reggie come out and say it to me.

Matt come out and say to him, everybody say they come out.

Were they going to erase the whole history of college football?

No, they're gonna change the rules, and that's exactly what they ended up doing.

But I just did it in a time where it wasn't popular.

But now everybody's saying, Fuck the MCA, and now everybody's getting paid where it doesn't matter.

But, like, at the time, it was not

normal because everybody wanted to keep it on a hush.

But the problem with it is, if you don't stand up to systems of any kind of injustice, this is what that will happen.

They'll take advantage of kids, and that's what they were doing.

They were making money.

It used to piss me off.

I used to, we used to play in these hundred thousand

seat arenas packed to the brim.

I go back to my dorm when I got your journey

with my jazz.

And I got nothing in my fridge.

Like, I'm like, dog, this isn't right.

You got concession stands, people making their money.

You got parking attendant guys making their money.

But you can tell me I don't get nothing from that.

No, no, I know business.

I know how this works.

And it was just,

it always blew my mind how Cash was so afraid to say anything.

Because like, if we all stood up and said something, they would change the rules.

But I mean, it's water under the bridge now, but I used to get very passionate about it back in the day.

Now, Matt, if you're going to tell me that you never took a what was a crazy, what was the crazy, what was the craziest thing?

You don't have to name names.

I know you're not.

They still got you shook.

That's crazy.

They still got you shook.

What?

You never took out.

Okay.

The only time, I'll tell you the story.

I've said that.

No, I don't.

Don't get in no NCA violations because of me.

I don't want no more banners to get.

By the way, I'm 42 years old.

What are they going to do to me?

That's what I said.

I had Reggie on my second.

I had Reggie on my podcast along with it.

Reggie's a different story.

Before I had, before, before everybody had a podcast, I had a podcast in 2017 and I had Reggie, and we were talking about it.

And I'm like, I'm.

You're like, come on, bro.

I know Reggie, but I don't know him, though.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, you know, we're from the same city.

Like, you know, I know him in passing.

We never really kicked it like that.

But

I'm like, dog, why did you give them your husband?

He was like, it's a good point.

It's a good question.

He's like, you know,

the right thing.

I don't even remember what he said, honestly.

But I was like, dog, it was your husband.

You won it.

I was like, they'd have had to come and take that shit from my house.

Good luck with that.

But everybody was so scared of the NCAA, dog.

Fuck them guys.

And fuck them now.

They should stick.

Yeah, but look what happened to USC when that all came out.

They almost got the death penalty like your boy Eric Dickerson.

Like they got like, which is dumb.

I mean, trust me.

What was

the craziest thing?

Are you going to give every team the death penalty and we have no games?

You have no more scholarships?

No,

it's not going to happen.

We are their product.

We are their product.

Aaron, you are not answering my question.

My question is:

What's the craziest shit you saw when you were in college?

Something about with bread, yeah.

I mean,

handshakes all the time.

Free meals, all that shit.

Come on, man.

I'm not even

gaslighting.

Free meals.

You gaslighting me, dog.

This is crazy.

No, I'm not.

I swear to God.

No, it is.

Let me tell a quick story.

I'm going to tell you a quick story real quick.

And this is the dead honest truth.

The only time that I got offered a significant amount of money,

this is all my kids, dude.

I got four.

I swear.

I was in Orlando for the college football award show.

And I was walking on the property of whatever the hotel we were at with my brother.

And this dude came.

It was kind of like a Manzel thing where Manzel, he signed all those photos, right?

And he got like 10 Gs or whatever.

This guy offered me like 10 grand or 15 grand cash to sign like 50 photos at the time.

And I remember, I can almost remember vividly, like we're just walking through the property.

My, my brother was like, basically, fuck off.

That was it.

That was the only time he's like, get the fuck out of here.

I just kept walking.

That was the only time,

like, real, like, real stack.

So, you know, you know what you remind me of?

You know what you remind me of?

What?

You know, you know, that, you know, that kid on that little, uh, that, that, that NCA commercial?

I don't even know what to NCA where he goes, we're like, they get the turnover.

He's like, Coach.

It was Adabelles.

That was you.

Coach, I was out.

Man said, man, said, I got 10 bands for you to sign these things.

And he was like, you get out of my face, man.

Yeah, that's right.

You get out of my face.

That's against the rules.

All right, we can move.

We got to move on from this shit.

I want to,

can we play?

Wait, well, I want to ask.

Well, I want to ask you before,

we appreciate you, bro, for coming on.

Your pod at Barstool, micro-dosing.

And

to, I want to talk to you about that.

But Portnoy, I want to play this clip real quick.

By the way, Matt Leinert, Matt Leinard thinks I'm wearing a Matt Leinert shirt on big noon kickoff.

That ain't happening.

He didn't make the bet.

I see.

I don't think Matt Leinard understands how bets work.

He's like, let's make a bet.

I said your punishment if Michigan wins is you have to apologize to Oklahoma for the way Lincoln Riley treated them and call him a scumbag on national TV.

He didn't agree to it.

So there was no bet made.

So I'm not wearing the Leinard jersey.

That was in regards to Michigan, USC.

Yeah, so this motherfucker, so we, so we played last week, USC, Michigan, and we're at dinner and, or we're in the meeting earlier in the day.

I'm like, hey, what do you want to do for this game?

Because he's like, whatever.

And Dave's great.

I love Dave.

And he's like, hey, whatever, whatever.

I'm like, I'm like, you want to wear my jersey when you do like your Dave rant on our show.

And he goes, yeah, yeah, whatever.

I'll do that.

Or I'm like, I'll get you a helmet, a jersey, whatever.

He's like, done.

So he's, then at dinner that night, he's like, hey, I was thinking if Michigan wins, you basically have to motherfuck your current head coach who's at USC

and apologize.

I said, dude, I'm not going to, I'm not doing that.

Like, I'm not backing out of the bet.

I'm, I just, I'm not going to do that.

I can't do that.

And he looked at me.

He's like, all right, he's like, all right, I'll think of something.

He never thought of something.

So we technically, technically, we never shook.

We never actually made the bet.

But that came out this morning.

And I said it to him, I said, are you, are you fucking serious, bro?

You're not going to, he's like, you must have went to USC.

You have no brains because we never shook on the bet all this shit.

I was like, what are you talking talking about?

So this dude now is not going to wear my jersey on our show

because apparently, like, he never gave me something other than that.

That pussy dude.

That's what I said.

I've been calling him that all week.

Anyway, what do you think of that?

You tell him.

I mean,

I don't, I don't, I can't

speak for it.

I can't.

No, I mean, if, if, if y'all, if y'all, if y'all had words exchanged and y'all agreed as men, to me, that's, that's, that's, that's Bond.

If he go back on that, that's on him.

No, well, we never technically, never agreed because he never gave me something for me to do, but that was on him.

He was supposed to think about it, and he never did.

And then his team never actually agreed on anything.

No, we didn't, which is which I technically, that's why I say technically, he's right.

So, you could just say he ducked the bet, then you got to get back out there.

Don't worry, I got something for on the show this week.

Be careful, though, Matt.

Be careful, be careful with the internet.

You guys are relentless, bro.

Yeah, man.

I don't.

He's a character, man.

That's exactly how I describe him.

He's a character.

Dude, I've been enjoying, though, everything you're doing with the pod, the PFT.

I really enjoyed the writers' cup, man, because I'm a golf nut.

I grind just like you.

Man, that was a rough look, though.

You got that, it was just the deck was stacked against your squad.

You were doing everything you could.

I saw, I looked in your face.

I said, Arian in this golf match is doing everything he could to try to get a point for his team.

And you guys ran into a buzzsaw.

Bro, they pick horrible caps.

The captains are horrible.

Who was it?

It was Whitney and

Riggs, right?

Yeah, they're picking all the homeboys rather than picking people who can golf good.

You know what I mean?

I'm like, dog, pick the good golfers.

Like, they have a whole golf podcast for Barstool, and they happen to be all on the same team.

If you were captain, would you have broken up the foreplay podcast?

You would have broken them up, right?

I have to.

My first pick is Frankie.

Frankie, the best golfer in that tournament, right?

I'm picking Frankie the first pick.

And if not, I'll probably go either.

Yeah, probably Riggs.

Yeah, I'll probably go Riggs next, but you got to break them up.

They can't be.

Because that might just send the message early and make them have to play against each other.

You know, I think that's the mind games that may be with them.

They have a golf, they're the best golfers.

You've got to break them up.

Like, what are we doing?

I don't know.

Were they picking up?

I will say, Portnoy,

we're going to let you go.

But Portnoy did leave his body for a second and played an outstanding round.

I watched it.

He hit every fairly.

He's got to be terrible.

No, but he went to another place in this golf match, man.

He is not an athlete.

He played well.

Listen, he's horrible.

He plays well in scramble conditions, but you getting one-on-one.

Matt, why don't you challenge him to a 1v1?

I will smash him in golf, and I'm not even.

And Aria, me and you will just drive around.

We'll play our own round, but we'll

he ain't going to do it unless it's for like big bread.

You should do it for big bread.

That would be hella.

Yeah, but his big bread is big bread.

Yeah.

You're going to take his money if you play him one-on-one.

Oh, God.

That's actually a smart bet.

It's a good idea.

Maybe.

I got Taylor.

That's a good idea.

Okay.

That's a good idea.

I'm going to bring that up to him.

I got it.

Yeah, bro.

We We appreciate you coming on, man.

You're the best.

My man, I appreciate you, man.

It's really good to hear from you.

Yeah, me too, man.

Good to see you.

Yeah, anytime you're in Houston or anytime I'm back in L.A., man, I hit you, brother.

Hit me up, dude.

My man.

All right.

Annie Agar joins the show.

Courtesy of Twisted Tea.

Grab a refreshing Twisted Tea today or even this nice Twisted Tea football.

Annie, we were talking off air.

I thought you absolutely annihilated your real, your video.

I made a great Gino joke.

You called Cam Scataboo626.

If those of you don't know, that's from Lilo and Stitch.

Heck of a week for you content-wise.

Sometimes the jokes just write themselves.

Granted, it does take a lot of research and work, but it's just like this is, I don't know if you guys feel this, but this NFL season, there's no, there's no good teams.

Like everyone's not happy with their team.

Everybody has a flaw.

Everybody has an issue.

And I couldn't tell you right now who my two Super Bowl teams are.

The two best teams right now now based on record are the Colts and the Buccaneers.

Right.

Win a Super Bowl.

Is that crazy?

It's crazy.

Yeah.

If you'd have told me that at the beginning of the year, I'd have been like, yeah, that's ridiculous.

Well, before we get to some twisted trivia where Matt is up four to two on the weeks, I got a question for you guys.

Yes.

You guys are both football aficionados.

Some of us have even played in the NFL.

Who would you say if you had a venture or guess is the favorite to win NFL MVP?

as of right now

favorite favorite i would say overwhelming favorite i would say baker mayfield or baker mayfield okay i

i feel like i just saw a tweet about this see i could give you a little twisted track we have two other names too i think it's one of these three but that's well you only get one i don't think it's i don't think

i think baker

okay can i give you hold on can i give my give me one more well i'll give you the two because

i think either Puka Nukua or Bajan Robinson.

For MVP.

Well, Bajan Robinson.

Let's see.

I don't even see Bajan in the top 10.

They don't like running back or top eight.

Daniel Jones also not getting the love.

He's not in like the top eight.

Baker is tied for second favorite

with Josh Allen.

If you say Pat Mahomes.

Patrick.

Get out of town.

Get out of here.

Plus one seven.

He's, by the way, he's balling.

He's balling.

Awesome.

He's all they got.

He's on two of my fantasy teams.

He's absolutely just kidding.

You know what?

Screw the Bills and Josh Allen for ruining that whole narrative.

They were my Super Bowl ride or die.

Joe Brady is ruining that team.

Well, I told my nephew at the beginning of the season I thought the Bills' receiving core was like in the bottom tier of the NFL.

Like, not that they're horrible, but and

Kim Coleman's not doing anything.

He was so mad at me.

And now he's texting me like, can the Bills trade for Chris Olave?

Yeah, they gotta get it.

He's throwing Jerry Judy.

Can the Bills get?

I just think that I don't know, the risk

core looks a little light in Buffalo and missing Kincaid really hurt.

That was it.

You saw it in the game.

Yeah.

Well, they didn't use James Cook at all in the passing game either.

I don't understand what's going on with them, but I do feel bad for Josh Allen because he's doing it all on his own.

But then if he has a bad game, then you're screwed.

Before we hit our twisted trivia, Matt,

how impressed are you when you look at a guy like Joe Flacco, who is, I think, your exact age,

who's about to now play Thursday night Bengals Steelers?

He didn't win, but he

are people.

It's ridiculous.

You want to know how impressed I am?

I played in my rec league basketball league this week, and I almost pulled my hamstring making a post-move down low.

Honestly,

it's partly why I'm still in a bad mood because I scored three points on like one of nine shootings.

So, the fact that our boy Joe Flacco and even A-Rod, A-Rod's older, I think A-rod's 40.

A-Rod's 40.

He's the oldest.

Yeah, I think so.

Flacco's 40 or 41.

They're a year apart.

It's, I don't know.

I don't know how they do it, man.

It's unbelievable to be able to do it at that level, like what Brady was able to do.

And now these guys and still playing.

Like, I know Flacco struggled, obviously, in Cleveland, but like still playing at a really high level.

And you still have to move quick back there, right?

Like it's.

I mean, Flacco's not moving.

Flacco's not moving.

But I saw some quotes from Rogers this week.

I thought it was great.

It's like he's Flacco is like the last of the Mohicans of like you're 6'5,

240 and just stand in the pocket and just the big arm, right?

Like those are the like that was like that era of football.

Obviously a lot of these guys have big arms, but all these guys move around now.

It's just like he literally is like the last one.

Like he's the last one.

Go flat.

Now one for nine.

That's why when you put it into perspective of it's Matt Sage.

My shot is my shot is about as bad as

Geno Smith's play right now.

I'm just going up with Annie.

You know, I'm just learning from the goat.

No, my shot is terrible, dude.

It's, it's, I scored 30 points my first week on fire.

I've gotten, I've what a combined 12 points in the last two games.

So we got a fade liner in his pickup game.

We got to bet all the unders, Annie.

We got to bet all the unders until that hammy's good.

Josie said, do not come home a loser and do not come home with under 50.

I'm embarrassed that don't be afraid of the hotel.

I literally texted her on my way.

I said, I'm sorry, I let you down.

I get

a hotel.

I'm on my way to the hotel.

All right.

Come on.

At least you can win a trivia, Matt.

That's what you got.

Are you ready to deliver?

Absolutely.

Trivia.

Okay.

Matt is up 4-2 in the weeks.

He's up 14 to 12 overall on the questions.

This week, it's going to be two questions for the audio listeners.

And if you want to hop over to YouTube, we're going to get two pictures.

Actually, we have three questions.

So three questions and two pictures of a unhelmeted.

unhelmeted football player with no jersey.

Yes.

You guys did pretty well in the pictures last year or last week, too.

I was impressed.

Let's do it.

Ready?

Starting with number one.

First question.

Who was the last Oklahoma sooner to win NFL MVP?

Barry Sanders.

Adrian Peterson.

Adrian Peterson.

Yep.

Easy.

I guess.

All right.

I guess it wasn't terrible.

It was me.

Who'd you guess?

Barry Sanders.

Barry Sanders with Oklahoma State, bud.

I know.

I know.

I was giving you a moment to say it was terrible.

It was terrible.

Thank you.

I was teeing you up.

Okay.

Second question.

There have been two unanimous NFLs, speaking of MVPs, there have been two unanimous NFL MVPs in history.

Name one.

Bonus if you get both of them.

Tom Brady.

Yep.

I think I knew this other one just because I love this man.

Brett Favre.

Nope.

A little bit more.

I mean, you already want to be.

It's like Tom Tacker.

I know.

That's what I was.

I was steering the wrong direction.

Is the other one Steve Young?

Nope.

Nope.

More recent.

Oh, more recent.

True Brees.

Did True Brees win MVP?

No.

Wow.

Tom was in 2010.

For the audience out there, Jerry did win this because he named one, but it's fun to get both.

Who's the second one?

Lamar.

Oh, in 2019.

Unanimous.

I did not know it was unanimous.

I just feel like Lamar Jackson, that's always someone arguing.

Right.

Like, because he's so hotly debated.

I never imagined that he unanimously won it.

Isn't that wild?

I know.

I think I remember that one.

Okay.

Number three.

Who holds the record for most receiving yards in a season by a tight end?

Don't just spit out a name, Gronk.

There you go, you spit it out.

It's not right.

Okay, well, go ahead, Matt.

I'm gonna take a hint because technically we get hints before who wants to be a millionaire now.

Yeah,

this is a hard one to give a hint for, which is kind of the hint in and of itself.

If I say this, it's just oh, I know it, I know it, I know it.

Damn it, I know it.

I gotta wait for Matt's guess.

Are they

older or is it like more recent?

More recent

the most yards in a season?

Most yards in a season by a tight end.

Tight end being the key.

Think of recent tight ends.

It's not, but it's not Kelsey.

Oh, Kelsey, really?

Yeah, I'm sure.

I was going to say that.

I think that one.

You love it.

Like, what hint would I get?

Any hint I would have given would have been.

I was going to go Antonio Gates.

My problem is I think everything.

I'm stuck in 2012 is my problem.

I know you forget they're more recent, like, like anything past the, in the 2022.

Matt limped into that one.

That should be like a half a point but 2-1 Matt okay gentlemen are you ready for the pictures yes my favorite part first picture who is this person Patrick Sertan yeah dang it I just I just noticed the PS5 behind him I wonder if that gives it away because he's dinner no

you just knew

he throws these guys also solid hat by the way look at that hat oh I'm 30 years older than that but have you hung out with Patrick Sertan I threw him a ball at the uh at the uh Pro Bowl a couple years ago when I was a quarterback I threw Justin

restriction.

Thank you.

So, is this unfair to Jerry then?

Jerry says, No, no, it's no, because Jerry watches more NFL than I do.

So, true, wear helmets in the NFL.

Okay, it doesn't matter.

Okay, I like being the underdog.

Come on, already next picture.

Three to one.

I've already, I know, but we got overall points to play for all points.

Who is this person?

Oh, gosh, it's a tough one.

I don't know if you guys will get this one.

Is that

don't say it?

I know, don't use your guess before we get a hint, dude.

Because you have no idea.

Because I sure as hell don't.

Hint.

Can we get a hint?

It's a linebacker.

It's definitely not a linebacker.

It is, actually.

It is a linebacker, Matt.

It's a linebacker.

I don't know if the college will help, but he went to LSU.

I know who it is.

I can't.

You want me to tell you who he currently plays for?

Sure.

Yeah.

Pittsburgh.

Oh,

God.

This is the brain fog kicking in.

His name.

uh,

high tower, I can't.

You want me to give you initials?

I'll give you initials.

No, I don't think we deserve this one.

I don't either of us.

We clearly don't know it because we clearly don't design it.

Go ahead.

Go ahead, Annie.

Do you know?

Tell me that no initials?

Yeah.

PQ.

Patrick Queen.

Yep.

Okay, Matt.

His starts with his last name.

Not a king, but uh.

Yeah, yeah.

What do you want me?

What do you want me to do?

I don't think either.

I think we deserve a half a pull.

By the way, that was four to one.

That was four.

That was a good pull.

18, 13.

I'm pulling away.

This is, this is a good idea.

Achique, you do not deserve.

She's saying PQ.

You got initials, bro.

And then I said the answer.

That could be, it's true.

That could have been a lot of names in the animal.

We're going to call the people, the good folks over at Twisted Tea to get a

ruling on PQ.

And then you just, that's the biggest hint.

That's an illegal hint.

We're going to look up how many guys that we're both playing the game at the same time it's not my fault that i react quicker than you bud i mean i don't know what you want that's an illegal

that's all right all right so 4-1 for matt this week i that's it i'm gonna start studying up because that was ridiculous and it is kind of almost

a sleep there jerry geez No, we're gonna, it's voided.

That one of them is voided.

All right, Annie.

Thank you.

We're back next week.

I got to make my comeback.

Good luck to the Packers.

Thank you.

I cannot wait for your next video like everybody on the internet.

As long as the Giants keep winning, keep you nice.

I had a rant earlier in the show about the Giants.

If you want to double back and listen, I'm staying realistic about these.

Okay, good.

That's very healthy of you.

I don't know.

I don't know about that.

I was going to say, I don't think the Giants are going to win the Super Bowl.

I don't think any Giants fans are being rationally.

They think Jackson Dart is like Eli Manning.

They think he, no, it's just that the Giants

Twitter is hilarious, right?

Giants Twitter is

like,

especially after the Commanders and Eagles lost.

Oh, but Giants Twitter has had a few Twisted T's.

Yeah, just a few.

I did that.

Just a few.

All right.

Well, thanks, guys.

I will see you next week.

Peace.

All right.

That's the show for this week.

Thank you to Arian Foster.

Shout out, my boy.

Shout outs, Twisted T.

Appreciate it.

And Matt,

good luck to your Trojans.

Good luck to the Giants.

Show that jersey with Port.

Oh, by the way, last thing.

He's not going to wear it, but going to, I'm going to.

If he won't wear it, at least make a bet where he buy, get him to buy you like a $5,000 glass case for your Heisman so you could get it off a freaking box.

Yeah, shout out to you.

Shout out to PMT too for, hey, is that a Heisman?

Is that a box jump on your Heisman?

Yeah, bro.

This is what I do.

Some investigative journalism for you.

This is what I'm working with here.

Well, that should be your secondary bet.

All right.

See you next week.